God Said, Don’t

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Joe the Plumber had a chat with the Almighty, and the word came down from on high: “Don’t run for office, Joe.”

Asked if he has plans to run for public office, he replied, “I hope not. You know, I talked to God about that and he was like, ‘No.’”

He continued, “I believe he’s gotten me on this grassroots movement. If I can encourage leaders to step up, that’s what I would like to do. That’s a heavy role. That’s something I don’t know if I am prepared to do yet.”

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1010 comments
1 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:34:39pm

what's a cubit?

2 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:35:27pm

Riiiiiiiiiight.

3 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:35:36pm
You know, I talked to God about that and he was like, ‘No.’

Sounds like they're all casual 'n' stuff.

/Thanks, God

4 LGoPs  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:35:38pm

Sounds like Joe is plumbing the depths of his soul.......

5 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:35:54pm

re: #1 albusteve

what's a cubit?

single teleprompter sentence.

6 DEZes  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:36:19pm

"Youve got Prayers"

7 ~Fianna  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:36:23pm

Can we get an "Amen!"?

8 researchok  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:36:34pm

Like Bobby Jindal, less the 'roids.

9 DEZes  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:36:58pm

re: #5 SasquatchOnSteroids

single teleprompter sentence.

Its not the dude with a bow and arrow?
///

10 LGoPs  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:37:05pm

re: #1 albusteve

what's a cubit?

It's one mouthful of a thin, pounded steak.......

11 brookly red  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:37:31pm

re: #1 albusteve

what's a cubit?

from the tip of the fingers to the elbow IIRC

12 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:37:33pm
13 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:37:33pm

re: #1 albusteve

what's a cubit?

LOL!

/said my brother Russell, whom I slept with.. ;-P

14 doppelganglander  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:37:43pm

Thanks, God.

15 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:37:46pm

re: #9 DEZes

Its not the dude with a bow and arrow?
///

That's stupid.
/

16 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:37:55pm
17 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:38:00pm

I spoke with God once...he told me to get the fuck outa the way and don't interfere...okie dokie big guy

18 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:38:20pm

God told Joe not to run. Too bad he doesn't have a submissive wife to do it for him like Mr Bachmann.

19 gman  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:39:16pm

I think I need to adjust my rabbit ears, because I'm not getting a signal.

20 pat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:39:32pm

Good call by God.

21 researchok  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:39:35pm

re: #18 Sharmuta

God told Joe not to run. Too bad he doesn't have a submissive wife to do it for him like Mr Bachmann.

Comment of the week.

22 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:39:49pm

If this is the reason that keeps him from running, I'm all for it.

23 DEZes  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:39:53pm

re: #15 VegasRick

That's stupid.
/

Rubik's Cubit.

24 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:40:16pm
25 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:40:24pm
Asked if he has plans to run for public office, he replied, “I hope not. You know, I talked to God about that and he was like, ‘No.’”

Uh, Joe... I'm just "a god", not "The God", but I'm happy you seem to be taking my advice.
/

26 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:40:27pm

Why did they cancel Joan of Arcadia?

27 brookly red  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:40:37pm

re: #17 albusteve

I spoke with God once...he told me to get the fuck outa the way and don't interfere...okie dokie big guy

I was divinely instructed to never suffer pineapple on pizza.

28 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:40:43pm

God is a republican...how cool is that?

29 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:41:00pm

re: #12 buzzsawmonkey

Love me some Lyle Lovitt! He is sexy in a funky kinda way.

30 kynna  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:41:01pm

So, Joe the Plumber's under the bus? Good to know.

Guys, I talk to God all the time. Christians do that. So he said it and it sounded like he was self-deprecating in that answer. "so I talked to God about that and he was like 'no'." Sounds like a little laugh at the idea. Do Christians feel that God gives them avenues to travel? Yes. Should they never speak in those terms? I guess they shouldn't. It's just, like, not cool.

Sorry. I just can't get my smug-on for this one.

31 LGoPs  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:41:07pm

re: #1 albusteve

what's a cubit?

Isn't that the new vegetable dicing machine that Vince the ShamWow guy is hawking.......

32 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:41:39pm

re: #24 buzzsawmonkey

My God told me not to run
My God told me not to run
That ain't the way to have fun, no
That ain't the way to have fun

--Three God Night

good one...
honorable mention

33 pegcity  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:41:45pm

like god cares who runs for office or wins the super bowl

34 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:42:08pm

re: #20 pat

Good call by God.

Indeed. Thank you, God.

35 Ben G. Hazi  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:42:25pm

Like most, ol' JTP is trying ever so hard to extend his 15 minutes as far as possible...he just needs to give it up, because the more he shows us, the more disappointing he becomes.

36 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:43:12pm

Still stumped Sunshine, though, didn't he ?

37 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:43:29pm

re: #30 kynna

So, Joe the Plumber's under the bus?

He's not even anywhere near the bus. Joe is not "bus worthy". He's just a dude folks like to interview sometimes.

Later Lizards, food shopping time.

38 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:43:38pm

re: #34 Sharmuta

Indeed. Thank you, God.

Uh-oh. Now he's got YOU doing it.

/

39 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:43:46pm

re: #27 brookly red

I was divinely instructed to never suffer pineapple on pizza.

you're so Indiana

40 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:44:46pm

re: #30 kynna

I talk to G-d all the time, too. But he doesn't advise me on what to do in words like "no" - that's the rub here, I'd think.

41 solomonpanting  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:44:59pm
“I hope not. You know, I talked to God about that and he was like, ‘No.’”

Like, Valley Godspeak.

42 brookly red  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:45:06pm

/but on the other hand "Senator Franken", hmmmmm. Whats up with that?

43 DEZes  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:45:11pm

re: #40 ArmyWife

I talk to G-d all the time, too. But he doesn't advise me on what to do in words like "no" - that's the rub here, I'd think.

Bingo.

44 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:45:27pm

re: #34 Sharmuta

Indeed. Thank you, God.

God has apparently misplaced Nancy Pelosi's phone number, however...

45 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:45:27pm
46 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:45:35pm

Eh wood lak tu ordair u cheezboogair!

47 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:45:38pm

re: #42 brookly red

/but on the other hand "Senator Franken", hmmmmm. Whats up with that?

Created, not called.

48 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:45:43pm

Dear God,

Could you please chat with Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, and Ron Paul and tell them it's time to retire?

Thanks and Bless Yourself, ~Sharmuta

49 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:45:59pm

re: #40 ArmyWife

I talk to G-d all the time, too. But he doesn't advise me on what to do in words like "no" - that's the rub here, I'd think.

People have different ways of putting things. I've heard it Joe's way my whole life. It's not a foreign language to me.

50 Kragar  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:46:04pm

re: #42 brookly red

/but on the other hand "Senator Franken", hmmmmm. Whats up with that?

Well, you see, he was good enough, smart enough and gosh darn it, people....

Sorry, I just had to beat myself there

51 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:46:06pm

re: #42 brookly red

/but on the other hand "Senator Franken", hmmmmm. Whats up with that?

/facepalm

52 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:46:15pm

Pink! You are hiding! Everything ok?

53 freetoken  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:46:17pm

re: #33 pegcity

like god cares who ... wins the super bowl

Heathen! Don't you know you're suppose to use CAPITAL letters.


















⇢⇢⇢⇢⇢ It is "Super Bowl" ⇠⇠⇠⇠⇠

54 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:46:21pm

One less Fair Tax idiot running for office. Thank God!

55 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:46:28pm

re: #42 brookly red

/but on the other hand "Senator Franken", hmmmmm. Whats up with that?

God has a sense of humor.

56 brookly red  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:46:31pm

re: #47 jcm

Created, not called.

indeed.

57 LGoPs  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:46:33pm

re: #42 brookly red

/but on the other hand "Senator Franken", hmmmmm. Whats up with that?

Franken talked to Satan. And the answer was yes.....
///

58 ShanghaiEd  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:46:36pm
If I can encourage leaders to step up, that’s what I would like to do. That’s a heavy role. That’s something I don’t know if I am prepared to do yet.”

I'm trying to picture, in my mind, somebody who's on the fence about becoming a leader. But then, he/she hears a speech by Joe the Plumber and the balance is tilted, the die is cast. A leader is born.

I'm trying hard to picture this, but the image won't quite come. Maybe I lack faith.

59 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:46:36pm

re: #48 Sharmuta

Dear God,

Could you please chat with Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, and Ron Paul and tell them it's time to retire?

Thanks and Bless Yourself, ~Sharmuta

P.S. A lighting bolt would be a nice way to send the message.

60 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:46:51pm

re: #48 Sharmuta

Dear God,

Could you please chat with Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, and Ron Paul and tell them it's time to retire?

Thanks and Bless Yourself, ~Sharmuta

earthquake or locusts?....pillar of salt is cool too

61 DEZes  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:47:25pm

re: #57 LGoPs

Franken talked to Satan. And the answer was yes.....
///

Yesssssssss

62 brookly red  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:48:17pm

re: #55 OldLineTexan

God has a sense of humor.

or maybe just really, really pissed at us...

63 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:48:26pm

what if God was one of us?
just a slob like one of us?

64 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:48:39pm

re: #49 OldLineTexan

I hear you. Maybe I'm letting my JTP bias affect my reaction to this. He was great - and then he spoke too much and ruined it.

65 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:49:19pm

re: #63 albusteve

what if God was one of us?
just a slob like one of us?

He'd still balance the federal budget.

66 solomonpanting  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:49:20pm

re: #63 albusteve

what if God was one of us?
just a slob like one of us?

Then He wouldn't be God.

67 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:49:37pm

re: #62 brookly red

or maybe just really, really pissed at us...

I think the current administration falls into the "plague of locusts" category.

68 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:49:45pm
69 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:49:53pm

re: #63 albusteve

just a stranger on the bus trying to go home?

70 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:49:57pm

re: #65 Sharmuta

He'd still balance the federal budget.

he invented balance...he digs balance

71 DEZes  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:50:09pm

Calling it an evening.
Thanks for the company Lizards.

72 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:50:13pm

re: #48 Sharmuta

Dear God,

Could you please chat with Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, and Ron Paul and tell them it's time to retire?

Thanks and Bless Yourself, ~Sharmuta

Dang, you're getting good at that. ;)

However, as Joe can telll you, sometimes it's No.

/

73 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:50:18pm

re: #52 ArmyWife

Hi AW! Nah, all's cool with me. Just laying low for the most part. I'll jump in when it's my turn. ;-)

74 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:50:19pm

re: #58 ShanghaiEd

I'm trying to picture, in my mind, somebody who's on the fence about becoming a leader. But then, he/she hears a speech by Joe the Plumber and the balance is tilted, the die is cast. A leader is born.

I'm trying hard to picture this, but the image won't quite come. Maybe I lack faith.

I think the other way. Someone who's on the fence about becoming a leader, sees a guy ask a legitimate question, and sees how his life is turned inside out, upside down, backwards, forwards.. The balance is tilted, the die is cast.

75 kansas  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:50:21pm

What does God think of this?
[Link: www.end22.com...]

76 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:50:36pm

re: #71 DEZes

Calling it an evening.
Thanks for the company Lizards.

later tater

77 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:50:39pm

re: #66 solomonpanting

Then He wouldn't be God.

that's somewhat presumptuous

78 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:50:51pm

re: #71 DEZes

Calling it an evening.
Thanks for the company Lizards.

See ya!

79 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:51:13pm

re: #70 albusteve

he invented balance...he digs balance

He could probably balance the federal budget, but I'm not so sure about California's.

80 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:51:24pm

re: #75 kansas

What does God think of this?
[Link: www.end22.com...]

God just told me that recycled BDS stinks, and to Google "projection".

/

81 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:51:52pm

re: #79 lobo91

He could probably balance the federal budget, but I'm not so sure about California's.

it's in God's hands now....oh noez!

82 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:52:03pm

re: #74 SasquatchOnSteroids

Very nice.

83 Racer X  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:52:25pm

re: #75 kansas

What does God think of this?
[Link: www.end22.com...]

Oh Jeaayzus!

84 irongrampa  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:52:36pm

re: #71 DEZes

Nite.

85 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:53:11pm

re: #68 buzzsawmonkey

"Time to re-tire" was the slogan of the now-defunct Fisk Tire Company, which used the slogan with a picture of a child dressed for bed with a tire over one shoulder.

Maybe all that's necessary to get these worthies to re-tire is a better Fisking.

I'm off to buy the biggest pair of Fiskars I can find!

/

86 solomonpanting  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:53:12pm

re: #77 albusteve

that's somewhat presumptuous

Gender-neutral?

87 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:53:14pm

God invented the Rolling Stones...chew on that

88 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:53:39pm

Speaking of being called and going off topic at the same time...
via Reihl World.

Emotion, few details, in Obama's health care pitch

ANNANDALE, Va. (AP) - President Barack Obama wanted to put a human face on his plans to overhaul health care, and a Virginia supporter did just that Wednesday. Fighting back tears, Debby Smith, 53, told Obama of her kidney cancer and her inability to obtain health insurance or hold a job.

Published: December 23, 2008

In line with President Obama’s health-care campaign and the new administration, he has directed Senator Tom Daschle to form a committee to report on health care issues important to those in Virginia.
Debby Smith will be moderating the Southwest Virginia town-hall discussion in Appalachia at Town Hall on Dec. 30 at 7 p.m. According to Smith, the information from the meeting will be reported back to Daschle to be included in his report to the President.

Anything here?
Coincidence?
Same Debby Smith?

89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:53:55pm

God is smart.

90 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:54:00pm

re: #64 ArmyWife

I hear you. Maybe I'm letting my JTP bias affect my reaction to this. He was great - and then he spoke too much and ruined it.

Ha, I have to agree with that!

91 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:54:36pm

re: #58 ShanghaiEd

I'm trying to picture, in my mind, somebody who's on the fence about becoming a leader. But then, he/she hears a speech by Joe the Plumber and the balance is tilted, the die is cast. A leader is born.

I'm trying hard to picture this, but the image won't quite come. Maybe I lack faith.

Don't take him too seriously. I doubt many here do. (or elsewhere, for that matter)

92 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:54:41pm

re: #88 jcm

Speaking of being called and going off topic at the same time...
via Reihl World.

Emotion, few details, in Obama's health care pitch


Anything here?
Coincidence?
Same Debby Smith?

Yes, it's the same person.

She sure stays busy for someone who's too sick to work...

93 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:54:49pm

Does this mean Charles doesn't hate God anymore? ///

94 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:54:53pm

re: #89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

God is smart.

links?

95 irongrampa  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:54:59pm

re: #80 OldLineTexan

This doofus (Serrano) has put this up for years, irrespective of who was President.

96 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:55:09pm

I believe Joe........but when someone says "God told me to tell you........", well, that's when the walls go up.

/God is, we're not.

97 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:55:34pm

re: #87 albusteve

Papa was a rolling stone.

98 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:55:39pm
99 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:55:51pm

re: #94 albusteve

links?

go to His FaceBook page......

100 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:56:07pm

re: #97 ArmyWife

Papa was a rolling stone.

ooh, don't Tempt me

101 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:56:07pm

re: #92 lobo91

Yes, it's the same person.

She sure stays busy for someone who's too sick to work...

A democratic operative gets called in for the emotional point of Obama's Town Hall.

102 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:56:22pm

re: #97 ArmyWife

Papa was a rolling stone.

I'm sure thet he was younger than Mick.

103 Racer X  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:56:24pm

re: #75 kansas

What does God think of this?
[Link: www.end22.com...]

I wuv him sooooo much!

He is the bestest president EVER!

Just look at all of the wonderful things he has accomplished!

104 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:56:39pm

re: #62 brookly red

or maybe just really, really pissed at us...

As a Christian, my favorite bumpersticker is "Jesus is coming ... and boy is He pissed". Very Biblical in a Revelation-y way.

/not a popular sentiment to express in Bible study, though

/don't ask

105 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:56:43pm

re: #99 IslandLibertarian

go to His FaceBook page......

ha!...he looks just like ME!...WTF?

106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:56:45pm

If Obama came up to me and asked me a question I would answer him honestly also.

15 minutes of fame does not qualify one for public office. Okay Joe?

107 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:56:47pm

Joe. Your 15 minutes are up.

108 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:57:15pm

re: #86 solomonpanting

Gender-neutral?

Gender indeterminate?

109 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:57:17pm

re: #93 Sharmuta

Does this mean Charles doesn't hate God anymore? ///

I think maybe he's a bit grateful ... I am.

110 LGoPs  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:57:35pm
Asked if he has plans to run for public office, he replied, “I hope not. You know, I talked to God about that and he was like, ‘No.’”

I think that's just a humble way of saying what was in his heart. I don't know all that much about Joe other than he was minding his own business and got swept up in a tempest.
He seems a decent sort and at the very least an unworthy target for ridicule.

111 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:57:39pm

re: #103 Racer X

I wuv him sooooo much!

He is the bestest president EVER!

Just look at all of the wonderful things he has accomplished!

Please warn me before you do that again!

/Not sure if the warranty on this laptop covers damage due to vomit

112 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:57:44pm

re: #105 albusteve

ha!...he looks just like ME!...WTF?

Heinlein, dude.

Thou art God.

/grok it

113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:57:50pm

re: #107 lawhawk

Wow a MMTA and GMTA mind-meld.

(I'm the M)

114 EaterOfFood  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:58:33pm

re: #7 ~Fianna

Can we get an "Amen!"?

Amen!

Can we get a "Hallelujah!"?

115 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:58:34pm

couldn't resist.....


116 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:58:45pm

re: #106 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

15 minutes of fame does not qualify one for public office. Okay Joe?

Seemed to work okay for Obama...

117 ShanghaiEd  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:58:52pm

re: #74 SasquatchOnSteroids

I think the other way. Someone who's on the fence about becoming a leader, sees a guy ask a legitimate question, and sees how his life is turned inside out, upside down, backwards, forwards.. The balance is tilted, the die is cast.

Well, that too. On the other hand, a leader who's put off by the fact that the world's not fair isn't likely to be a very gung-ho leader in the first place, right?

118 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 5:59:45pm

re: #95 irongrampa

This doofus (Serrano) has put this up for years, irrespective of who was President.

That's pretty conflicted. Has he ever met his evil half-black half-white twin and wrestled?

/

119 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:00:07pm

WARNING!
"Don't ask me what I think of you. I might not give the answer you want me to."
God.........oh wow........

120 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:00:16pm

re: #117 ShanghaiEd

Well, that too. On the other hand, a leader who's put off by the fact that the world's not fair isn't likely to be a very gung-ho leader in the first place, right?

Yes, Michelle should stay outta politics.

121 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:00:22pm

re: #102 VegasRick

I'm sure thet he was younger than Mick.

Mick walked way with all the money tho

122 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:00:47pm

re: #110 LGoPs

I think that's just a humble way of saying what was in his heart. I don't know all that much about Joe other than he was minding his own business and got swept up in a tempest.
He seems a decent sort and at the very least an unworthy target for ridicule.

Well said.

No malice, no wish to bring this country to its knees. Save the ridicule for those who earn it, folks.

123 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:01:10pm

re: #115 albusteve

the year Mr. Armywife was born. It was a very good year, despite the pink leisure suits.

124 brookly red  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:01:30pm

re: #110 LGoPs

I think that's just a humble way of saying what was in his heart. I don't know all that much about Joe other than he was minding his own business and got swept up in a tempest.
He seems a decent sort and at the very least an unworthy target for ridicule.

your right of course, but it was fun for a minute.

125 irongrampa  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:01:33pm

re: #118 OldLineTexan

Ok. You win.


Wanna beer?

126 HelloDare  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:01:43pm

It's really hard to find a good plumber.

127 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:01:53pm

re: #121 albusteve

Mick walked way with all the money tho

So he finally got some satisfaction?

128 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:01:57pm

re: #112 OldLineTexan

Heinlein, dude.

Thou art God.

/grok it

that's a grok of shit...

129 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:02:51pm

re: #123 ArmyWife

the year Mr. Armywife was born. It was a very good year, despite the pink leisure suits.

really?...then you are like...children?

130 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:02:56pm

re: #122 pink freud

The issue with this, in my mind, is Joe not understanding his limitations. He did a great thing, asked a great question, but then tried to be something he isn't. It doesn't make him stupid, but it certainly detracted from what got the 15 minutes for him to begin with.

131 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:03:45pm

re: #129 albusteve

well I'm not. I am a cradle robber. I was born in 1971.

132 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:04:03pm

I wonder if God told Joe to speak out against "queers" too.

133 Racer X  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:04:04pm

A Little boy wanted $100.00 very badly and prayed for weeks,
but nothing happened .

Then he decided to write God a letter requesting the $100.00. When the postal authorities received the letter to God , USA , they decided to send it to President Obama.

The President was so amused that he instructed his secretary to
send the little boy a $ 5.00 bill. The president thought this would appear to be a lot of money to a little boy. The little boy was delighted with the $5.00 bill and sat down to write a thank-you note to God, which read:

Dear God:
Thank you very much for sending the money. However, I noticed that for some reason you sent it through Washington D.C., and those assholes took out $95.00 in taxes

134 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:04:18pm

re: #125 irongrampa

Ok. You win.


Wanna beer?

Win? I won?

/hell yes I want a beer

135 legalpad  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:04:36pm

re: #131 ArmyWife

well I'm not. I am a cradle robber. I was born in 1971.

five years older than my daughter

136 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:04:46pm

re: #121 albusteve

Mick walked way with all the money tho



gimme all your money........

137 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:04:53pm

re: #130 ArmyWife

The issue with this, in my mind, is Joe not understanding his limitations. He did a great thing, asked a great question, but then tried to be something he isn't. It doesn't make him stupid, but it certainly detracted from what got the 15 minutes for him to begin with.

Agree totally. but because the man found himself in over his head at minute 16 just doesn't rate the country's ridicule and scorn. He allowed himself to be played by some who are masterful at the game. His error was in taking that bite of the worm.

138 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:05:10pm

re: #127 VegasRick

So he finally got some satisfaction?

yeah but he blew it all on brown sugar

139 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:05:12pm

re: #117 ShanghaiEd

Well, that too. On the other hand, a leader who's put off by the fact that the world's not fair isn't likely to be a very gung-ho leader in the first place, right?

Updinged for truth.

But he was dressed and quartered, no matter how goofy people think he is.
No normal citizen would want to go through that. Especially if you're a Republican.

140 LGoPs  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:05:51pm

re: #122 pink freud

Well said.

No malice, no wish to bring this country to its knees. Save the ridicule for those who earn it, folks.

The Force Alinsky is strong in the Left.

141 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:06:26pm

re: #135 legalpad

I had to go back and upding, though, for making me feel good!

142 mikalm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:06:31pm

re: #112 OldLineTexan

Heinlein, dude.

Thou art God.

/grok it

Did you know there's an actual Stranger-inspired "Church of All Worlds" that's been in existence for many years?

143 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:06:38pm

re: #136 IslandLibertarian


gimme all your money........

heh...cool vid...nice

144 HelloDare  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:06:56pm

re: #132 Charles

I wonder if God told Joe to speak out against "queers" too.

No. But he didn't tell him not to.

145 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:07:17pm

re: #142 mikalm

Did you know there's an actual Stranger-inspired "Church of All Worlds" that's been in existence for many years?

No, but I'm not really surprised.

;)

146 Racer X  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:07:18pm

With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu, (and now), swine flu and terrorist attacks, are we sure this is a good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?
- Jay Leno

147 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:07:28pm

re: #137 pink freud

But to Charles' point, the queer comment wasn't helpful.

148 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:07:56pm

re: #128 albusteve

that's a grok of shit...

The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

149 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:09:05pm

re: #147 ArmyWife

But to Charles' point, the queer comment wasn't helpful.

Yes, that's one of those group-only words.

150 enoughalready  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:09:13pm

Personally I think that anyone who talks to invisible people and hears voices in their heads is probably unfit for public ofice.

But hey, that's just me.

151 Racer X  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:09:13pm

Those who use God to further their own personal interests are one day going to have some explaining to do.

152 kansas  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:09:22pm

RULE 4: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

And while you're at it, make a whole bunch of rules.

153 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:09:41pm

re: #143 albusteve

'cept they cut out the "Black Girls" line........

"American Girls" line is spot on!

154 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:09:55pm

re: #151 Racer X

Those who use God to further their own personal interests are one day going to have some explaining to do.

I had no idea God was Cuban.

/

155 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:09:55pm

re: #147 ArmyWife

Yeesh, AW... I went all the way back trying to find out who called someone "queer".

But, my bad. Not yours.

Removes head from gutter.

156 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:10:04pm

re: #150 enoughalready

I don't believe he was speaking to a "person", invisible or otherwise.

157 hazzyday  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:10:07pm

I will talk to God everyday. With the idea that I am the most imperfect receptor ever. The most I can seem to get is some general directions. Like my life works out better if I don't rush to be ahead of everyone else. Like I should slow down and take my time and better things will happen to me at an average speed. Life seems to bear that out with continuous lesson reinforcement.

When Pat Robertson talks to God I think he means something different. Like he has a two way TV channel to heaven. I just think he is confused by the role he has accepted and misinterprets his ego as God a lot.

Joe the Plumber is probably somewhere in between.

158 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:10:31pm

re: #154 OldLineTexan

I had no idea God was Cuban.

/

Bwhhaaahaaa.

159 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:10:33pm

re: #148 OldLineTexan

The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

awsome little story...preceded of course by 'The Man Who Sold the Moon'....'Mistress' was primo tho

160 irongrampa  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:10:46pm

re: #154 OldLineTexan

God is called Lucy?

161 sagehen  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:10:46pm

The last time I asked G-d for guidance on a difficult decision, he said "Hey! Did I or did I not give you a brain of your very own? Did I or did I not give you free will? What did you think they were for, huh? Use them!"

I thought that was very wise, very godly advice. I've tried to follow it always.

162 jones  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:10:58pm

Who remembers "Allied Discount Tires?"

[Link: pqasb.pqarchiver.com...]

``I got a message from upstairs,`` Behr says in the commercial. ``It says I gotta sell, we gotta sell 80,000 tires in the next 30 days, or I'm gonna die!``


Shameful it is nowhere on the web.

163 mikalm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:11:21pm

re: #157 hazzyday

Well put, Hazz. Very much in line with your Rose-Croix icon! :-)

164 brookly red  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:11:23pm

It just occured to me that perhaps I should be asking God more "if ?" before I do things and less "why ?" afterwards. Hmmmmm.

165 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:11:32pm

150 plus comments in, this has probably already been said. Can we take Joe's quote as proof of the existence of God?

166 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:11:34pm

re: #153 IslandLibertarian

'cept they cut out the "Black Girls" line........

"American Girls" line is spot on!

"Shine a Light ' vids...gotta draw the line

167 Henchman Ghazi-808  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:11:52pm

I can't wait for Joe's blog, the 'Toilet Bowl.' A never ending case of chronic relevantitus exigenses.

168 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:12:56pm

re: #165 Jim in Virginia

150 plus comments in, this has probably already been said. Can we take Joe's quote as proof of the existence of God?

without question...I'm a heathen so this stuff arouses me

169 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:13:10pm

re: #160 irongrampa

God is called Lucy?

You should hear Him play the drums ...

170 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:13:26pm

God twittered this earlier today.

171 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:13:30pm

re: #147 ArmyWife

Beyond the initial good he did by calling attention to 0bama's intentions, I don't believe JTP to be someone I would consider representative of conservatism as I know it. Especially in light of Charles' 'queer' post.

172 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:13:43pm

God Will Save Me

A man is caught in a terrible rainstorm. For days and days it rains without stopping, causing a flood. He is trapped in his house, but since he is a man who has great faith in God, he is not worried. He believes that God will save him.

By the fifth day of rain, his basement is flooded and his neighbors are starting to evacuate their homes. His neighbor, driving an all-terrain vehicle, offers him a ride to higher and drier ground.

"No, thank you," the man replies. "God will save me."

The rain continues. In fact, it grows worse. By the eighth day, the first floor of his house is under two feet of water, the street in front of his house looks like a river, all his neighbors have left, and he is alone in his house sitting on the dining room table calmly eating cereal.

Suddenly there is a knock on the door. A member of the Rescue Squad has arrived in a powerboat, and offers to take the man to safety.

"No, thank you," the man replies. "God will save me."

The rescuer leaves and the man finishes his cereal. Three more days go by. It rains all three days without stop. By now, the entire first floor is flooded and the man has to retreat to his roof. The National Guard has been called in and on the afternoon of the eighth day, a helicopter flies low over his house, dropping a ladder for him. The pilot calls down, "Grab hold and we'll lift you out of here!"

"No, thank you!" the man yells back. "God will save me."

Within two more days, the water has risen so high that the man is about to drown. The town is utterly deserted, most houses have collapsed, and the street have became raging, turbulent rivers. The man is sitting on his roof, waiting for God to save him. As the waters rush around his neck, he begins to fear that perhaps God will not save him and he has been mistaken all this time to have had faith in God. Plaintively, he cries out, "God, why haven't you saved me?"

A voice booms from heaven, "First I sent your neighbor in an ATV, then I sent the Rescue Squad in a boat, then I sent the National Guard in a helicopter. What more do you want from Me?"

173 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:13:51pm

re: #166 albusteve

"Shine a Light ' vids...gotta draw the line

It was to keep from offending Clinton in the audience. The Kennedy line got pulled from SFD.

174 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:13:52pm

re: #169 OldLineTexan

You should hear Him play the drums ...

yup..Charliegod Watts

175 LGoPs  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:14:03pm

re: #152 kansas

RULE 4: "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."

And while you're at it, make a whole bunch of rules.

Two can play that game. Hound Democrats that don't pay their taxes. And ridicule them and their views on taxes.
Seems to me that Tom Daschle was pretty vocal on people paying their fair share......just for starters.

176 Henchman Ghazi-808  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:14:39pm

I asked God to dammit. He did this. I'm gonna back off for a while lest I screw up something.

177 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:14:42pm

oK, so, I get distracted for a little bit and G-d Speaks. Why didn't someone tell me?

178 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:14:53pm

re: #155 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

sorry about that. The quote Charles brought up was the kind of thing I was referring too when I said I carried a bias against this guy into this conversation. He became painful to watch and just needed to stop talking. He still does. I can't be in support of those who hold views like this, and it negated the original good Joe brought to the table.

179 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:15:09pm

re: #171 pink freud

Agreed.

180 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:15:18pm

re: #160 irongrampa

God is called Lucy?

LUCILLE!

181 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:15:21pm

Hamas: Fear of Jihad Led US Voters to Arab-Friendly Obama

In a public address delivered on Al-Aqsa TV by Hamas leader Khaled Mashaal, the Damascus-based terror boss informed Arab viewers that U.S. President Barack Hussein Obama came to power in the United States due to Islamic jihad in the Middle East.

During the June 25 discourse, Mashaal said Obama's administration, and its interest in achieving détente with the Arab world, did not come about through American altruism. Rather, witnessing the combative efforts of Palestinians, Lebanese, Iraqis and Afghanis led Americans to vote for Obama in order to "protect their own interests."

/well, that explains a lot

182 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:15:27pm

re: #173 IslandLibertarian

It was to keep from offending Clinton in the audience. The Kennedy line got pulled from SFD.

in the old days Mick said fuck you to that stuff....mellow old geezers now eh?...I love the Stones btw

183 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:15:28pm

re: #145 OldLineTexan
Surprise- the HQ is in California.

184 kansas  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:15:39pm

RULE 5: "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon." There is no defense. It's irrational. It's infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.re: #175 LGoPs

Two can play that game. Hound Democrats that don't pay their taxes. And ridicule them and their views on taxes.
Seems to me that Tom Daschle was pretty vocal on people paying their fair share......just for starters.

They just pay and move on.

185 Alan Furman  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:15:45pm

Hello?

We have a President who has asserted publically his desire to "spread the wealth around," which means, and can only mean, the use of State coercion for LOOTING.

I don't give a rodent's rectum about Joe the Plumber.

186 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:16:15pm

re: #183 Jim in Virginia

Surprise- the HQ is in California.

STILL not surprised.

/

187 legalpad  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:16:19pm

re: #175 LGoPs

Two can play that game. Hound Democrats that don't pay their taxes. And ridicule them and their views on taxes.
Seems to me that Tom Daschle was pretty vocal on people paying their fair share......just for starters.

Like Ted Kennedy?

188 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:16:20pm

re: #175 LGoPs

Two can play that game. Hound Democrats that don't pay their taxes. And ridicule them and their views on taxes.
Seems to me that Tom Daschle was pretty vocal on people paying their fair share......just for starters.

We should make him live up to his own health care plan too.
Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them.

189 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:17:18pm

re: #182 albusteve

since their gig on Ed Sullivan, I've been hooked.

190 brookly red  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:17:26pm

re: #188 jcm

We should make him live up to his own health care plan too.
Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them.

/talk about trem limits...

191 jorline  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:17:39pm

Joe, your allotted time has expired.

192 kansas  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:17:41pm

re: #188 jcm

We should make him live up to his own health care plan too.
Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them.

That's excellent IMO. Every Republican talking point should be, fine, whatever you want, just no exemptions, for anybody...

193 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:17:52pm

re: #178 ArmyWife

sorry about that. The quote Charles brought up was the kind of thing I was referring too when I said I carried a bias against this guy into this conversation. He became painful to watch and just needed to stop talking. He still does. I can't be in support of those who hold views like this, and it negated the original good Joe brought to the table.

Big Upding.

194 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:17:54pm

re: #188 jcm

We should make him live up to his own health care plan too.
Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them.

There are going to be more empty seats in the Senate than a Rosie O'Donnell concert if that ever happens.

195 kansas  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:18:20pm

re: #191 jorline

Joe Barack, your allotted time has expired.

196 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:18:25pm

re: #181 Killian Bundy

Hamas are conspiracy theorists. Who knew?

197 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:18:26pm

re: #189 IslandLibertarian

since their gig on Ed Sullivan, I've been hooked.

well...a brotherhood of thieves and gangsters...I'm in

198 LGoPs  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:19:28pm

re: #188 jcm

We should make him live up to his own health care plan too.
Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them.

Hound all the bastards that block any talk of school vouchers and then send their kids to exclusive private schools.

199 legalpad  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:19:32pm

re: #188 jcm

We should make him live up to his own health care plan too.
Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them.

I've heard that somewhere before. My avatar illustrates how I'm going to take it. They should have thought of that.

200 hazzyday  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:19:33pm

re: #132 Charles

I wonder if God told Joe to speak out against "queers" too.

When someone speaks as a channel for God, I expect their language to be more like Christs. Acceptance of all people would be required I would think. I don't think God chooses sides in politics or social issues but will find a way to kick a person in the butt if the wrong choice is continually made.

A key measurement to me is happiness and evolution. If one is never happy one is not moving in God's direction. There is more sacrifice to be made for the general good. One always has to look ahead and discard things from the past that don't work. Easiest way to do that is to emulate successful people.

I don't think creationists have a healthy perspective of Jesus Christ. I think God is waiting for them to realize the error of their ways.

201 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:19:38pm

re: #197 albusteve

well...a brotherhood of thieves and gangsters...I'm in

Oh, God! albusteve is running for office! Did he get your permision?

/

202 brookly red  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:19:48pm

re: #196 ArmyWife

Hamas are conspiracy theorists. Who knew?

/well they have only one conspiracy, the jews did it...

203 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:20:02pm

re: #198 LGoPs

Hound all the bastards that block any talk of school vouchers and then send their kids to exclusive private schools.

How about their mistress' kids?

204 hopperandadropper  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:20:31pm

I'd say Joe showed proper humility in consulting the Lord before deciding whether he was destined to lead. And I would say that the Lord gave him sound advice, considering that he can't make it through a simple statement without using the word "like".

On the other hand, does anyone here care to dispute at this point that Joe had Obama's number?

205 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:20:33pm
Now, when I talked to God I knew he'd understand
He said, stick by my side and Ill be your guiding hand
But dont ask me what I think of you
I might not give the answer that you want me to
206 jorline  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:20:43pm

re: #195 kansas

I'll agree with that also.

207 kansas  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:20:44pm

re: #203 OldLineTexan

How about their mistress' kids?

No, that should be OK./

208 hazzyday  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:20:56pm

re: #172 jcm

Perfect.

209 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:21:03pm

re: #203 OldLineTexan

Them too. Union teachers for all!

210 mikalm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:21:09pm

re: #200 hazzyday

More good stuff, HD.

211 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:21:16pm

ohhh, time out for gratitude. To G-d and Teddy Roosevelt.

212 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:21:51pm

God: Arthur, King of the Britons, your Knights of the Round Table shall have a task to make them an example in these dark times.

King Arthur: Good idea, O Lord!

God: 'Course it's a good idea!

213 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:21:56pm

the perfect prayer:
Yes.
Thank you.

/keep it simple

214 Neutral President  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:22:27pm

re: #202 brookly red

/well they have only one conspiracy, the jews did it...

No the Juice did it!

215 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:22:33pm

re: #201 OldLineTexan

Oh, God! albusteve is running for office! Did he get your permision?

/

I have plans...Exile

216 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:22:46pm

re: #206 jorline

I'll agree with that also.

You're in an agreeable mood.

Can I have 10 bucks?

217 LGoPs  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:22:51pm

Roll out the details of the sweetheart pensions and health benefits that congress gets - all of them Democrat or Republican - and compare it to what the average American sees dwindling away. And then ridicule them and point out the double standard.

218 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:23:08pm

re: #204 hopperandadropper

On the other hand, does anyone here care to dispute at this point that Joe had Obama's number?

Joe certainly didn't need God to see through Øbama, only a smidgen of sense.

219 ShanghaiEd  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:23:10pm

re: #204 hopperandadropper


On the other hand, does anyone here care to dispute at this point that Joe had Obama's number?

Was it 42?

220 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:23:17pm

re: #216 jcm

You're in an agreeable mood.

Can I have 10 bucks?

Yeah, you could.

/

221 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:23:38pm

re: #219 ShanghaiEd

Was it 42?

ZERO.

222 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:23:41pm

re: #219 ShanghaiEd

Was it 42?

17

/or 0

223 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:23:42pm

re: #198 LGoPs

Hound all the bastards that block any talk of school vouchers and then send their kids to exclusive private schools.

The only problem with your idea is the fact that public shaming only works on people who have a sense of shame in the first place.

I think it's been pretty much conclusively proven that the vast majority of Democrat politicians have none.

224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:23:44pm

re: #220 OldLineTexan

That is the cutest damn kid.

225 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:24:27pm

re: #219 ShanghaiEd

Was it 42?

Joe (Biden not Plumber) says its 7

226 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:24:33pm

re: #224 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That is the cutest damn kid.

Very kind of you. He's sitting right here with me now, peeling a sunburn and watching Futurama.

227 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:24:34pm

re: #204 hopperandadropper

I'd say Joe showed proper humility in consulting the Lord before deciding whether he was destined to lead. And I would say that the Lord gave him sound advice, considering that he can't make it through a simple statement without using the word "like".

On the other hand, does anyone here care to dispute at this point that Joe had Obama's number?

Joe should go fishing for about four years....

228 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:25:10pm

re: #225 SasquatchOnSteroids

Joe (Biden not Plumber) says its 7

Somebody told me I never see Joe 'cause he's always going out for burgers.

I am starting to like him.

229 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:25:11pm

re: #1 albusteve

somewhat related to a cluebat. its a bit that you place in the mouth of a moonbat to lead them to the truth by giving them a clue. hence the term cluebit which has been shorted to cubit.

anyway, wnd is a bunch of loons.

230 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:26:44pm

re: #223 lobo91

Sadly, the Republicans aren't proving much better. But I am determined and convinced the party can and will be saved. We need to get ourselves together and make that happen.

231 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:27:00pm

re: #227 albusteve

Joe should go fishing for about four years....

you and i should do that. maybe eight years.

/

232 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:27:07pm

re: #212 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

cue killer rabbit. too bad they didn't send Jimmy Carter down to the cave to get him.

233 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:27:14pm

re: #229 Shr_Nfr

somewhat related to a cluebat. its a bit that you place in the mouth of a moonbat to lead them to the truth by giving them a clue. hence the term cluebit which has been shorted to cubit.

anyway, wnd is a bunch of loons.

they made Joe an apostle...God has entered the political arena on his behalf...that's not chopped liver amigo

234 jorline  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:27:44pm

re: #216 jcm

You're in an agreeable mood.

Can I have 10 bucks?

Here's 5 and I owe ya.

This will piss off a few. Sarah can watch our northwestern flank and Joe needs to find his monkey wrench. I don't want to watch a repeat of the 2008 election process.

235 neo atheist  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:27:48pm

re: #229 Shr_Nfr

anyway, wnd is a bunch of loons.

Clearly you haven't followed their in depth and intelligent reporting on the revelation of the Ark of the Covenant. If Michael Jackson hadn't died, the media would be covering it.

236 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:27:57pm

re: #170 Noam Sayin'

God twittered this earlier today.

I thought that was funny.

237 kansas  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:28:16pm

re: #230 ArmyWife

Sadly, the Republicans aren't proving much better. But I am determined and convinced the party can and will be saved. We need to get ourselves together and make that happen.

We do need at least the hint of honesty from the media for that. I'm wondering with Chip Reid and Helen Thomas actually pressing the Gibbster today, this represents a turning point and the beginning of a little honesty?

238 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:28:18pm

re: #1 albusteve

what's a cubit?

Eww. Arkward.

239 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:28:25pm

re: #231 OldLineTexan

you and i should do that. maybe eight years.

/

can I bring my music stash?...or do we have to be cursed with AmIdol reruns?....I got plenty of worms too...

240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:29:02pm

re: #236 Sharmuta

I thought that was funny.

Who's that guy with Joe?

241 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:29:07pm

re: #216 jcm

You're in an agreeable mood.

Can I have 10 bucks?

Damn but you're a cheap friend. I have to pay a lot more than that for people to hang with me.

242 Mithrax  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:29:16pm

re: #239 albusteve

..I got plenty of worms too...

Should see a Doctor about that :P

243 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:29:57pm

re: #239 albusteve

can I bring my music stash?...or do we have to be cursed with AmIdol reruns?....I got plenty of worms too...

Answer me a question: Would you suspect that I watch American Idol? On a fishing trip?

/don't worry about the worms, we'll stop off at the doc's on the way and get you some cream and pills

244 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:30:02pm

re: #67 lobo91

Actually, I think it is like the hemorrhoids God visited on the crowd who stole the Ark for a bit, a pain in the ass.

245 irongrampa  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:30:22pm

re: #230 ArmyWife

Heh. If you saw some of the local talent we have, it'd make ya flinch. Unless you get the power structure's approval, you go nowhere. Having said that, there's one or two who show promise--but I'm skeptical regardless.

246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:30:31pm

re: #239 albusteve

I got plenty of worms too...

That might work better than gastric bypass, now that I think about it.

247 jorline  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:30:51pm

re: #236 Sharmuta

I thought that was funny.

That was funny.

248 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:31:03pm

re: #243 OldLineTexan

Answer me a question: Would you suspect that I watch American Idol? On a fishing trip?

/don't worry about the worms, we'll stop off at the doc's on the way and get you some cream and pills

cool...I aint exactly perch food yet

249 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:31:13pm

re: #246 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That might work better than gastric bypass, now that I think about it.

Try the Nork diet.

250 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:31:20pm

re: #237 kansas

We do need at least the hint of honesty from the media for that. I'm wondering with Chip Reid and Helen Thomas actually pressing the Gibbster today, this represents a turning point and the beginning of a little honesty?

That, or Ms. Thomas will literally end up under the wheels of a DC bus and Chip Reid will be found to have kiddie porn on his Blackberry. It will get interesting as the glow around BHO begins to fade--and no attractive patina takes its place.

251 kynna  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:31:25pm

re: #40 ArmyWife

I talk to G-d all the time, too. But he doesn't advise me on what to do in words like "no" - that's the rub here, I'd think.

Just like the bible, I don't take everything JtP says literally.

252 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:31:43pm

re: #244 Shr_Nfr

May be a personal question, and you may have already explained it a trillion times... esplain the nic?

253 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:32:05pm

re: #247 jorline

That there was funny.

/c'mon, boy, get with the durned pro-gram

254 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:32:09pm

re: #237 kansas

Helen is irretrievable lost. I do think it's an indication there is a small fissure in the Obamalamadingdong fan club. It will get wider, but don't expect the likes of the MSM to lead the charge.

255 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:33:03pm

re: #249 OldLineTexan

Try the Nork diet.

we'll recycle our own bait!......
Onion

256 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:33:05pm

Off for a while. Have a great evening folks. If the new antibiotics work, I may sleep thru the night. If not, I'll see you at the fruitcup.

257 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:33:05pm

re: #235 neo atheist

I laughed about the ark thing. These people have real cognitive dissonance. Its like the Korean Church that was predicting the "rapture" up in Boston during the 1990s. Lots of posters everywhere telling people to prepare for it. The date came and went, the sun came up the next day. Life continued.

258 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:33:19pm

re: #251 kynna

Just like the bible, I don't take everything JtP says literally.

You never know, he might have his own uman and thurim--you know, the Israelite executive decision makers used to determine God's will (before the time of Kings)

259 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:33:31pm

re: #254 ArmyWife

Helen is irretrievable lost. I do think it's an indication there is a small fissure in the Obamalamadingdong fan club. It will get wider, but don't expect the likes of the MSM to lead the charge.

She's a liberal, "anyone with a brain is" however the exchange with Gibbs was damn fine entertainment.

260 quickjustice  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:33:37pm

Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition!

261 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:33:40pm

re: #256 ggt

Then I hope to see you in the afternoon open. Goodnight.

262 jorline  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:33:56pm

re: #253 OldLineTexan

/c'mon, boy, get with the durned pro-gram

shee-it...dun furgot!

263 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:34:14pm

re: #257 Shr_Nfr

I laughed about the ark thing. These people have real cognitive dissonance. Its like the Korean Church that was predicting the "rapture" up in Boston during the 1990s. Lots of posters everywhere telling people to prepare for it. The date came and went, the sun came up the next day. Life continued.

If you had a nickel for every time that's happened since 1789 ...

264 brookly red  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:34:24pm

re: #249 OldLineTexan

Try the Nork diet.

works best when combined with forced labor...

265 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:34:45pm

re: #259 jcm

Gibbs is the Court Jester, only to be usurped by our VP. What a world.

266 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:34:53pm

re: #260 quickjustice

Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition!

You mean there is some still for sale? Where? I need some .45 ACP rounds.

267 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:35:23pm

re: #245 irongrampa

There's a new guy ....elected out of nowhere, actually beat William "Freezer" Jefferson in a solidly Dem district in New Orleans. First generation Vietnamese; his name is Joseph Cao. His dad was a Lieutenant in the Army of the Republic of Vietnam. He's a lawyer, a Republican, and told 0bama to get lost when he called personally to urge Cao to vote for cap and trade. He is worth watching.

268 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:35:44pm

re: #262 jorline

shee-it...dun furgot!

Son, if we dont keep them fellers up'n DC cornvinced we's a buncha inbred hillbillies, they's gonna wise up sooner or later ... most of 'em ain't as dumb as they look!

/

269 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:35:48pm

one heck of a storm passing through.

270 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:35:48pm

re: #265 ArmyWife

Gosh, I miss Tony Snow.

271 quickjustice  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:35:49pm

So the House Democrats gave that congresswoman from Ohio 3 billion dollars to sell out the coal industry on cap and trade. I have a feeling we're going to see a lot more of this.

272 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:35:58pm
273 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:36:10pm

re: #263 OldLineTexan

If you had a nickel for every time that's happened since 1789 ...

The turn of the first millennia was a big one, lots of folks pack up and went to churches to wait the end.

274 brookly red  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:36:20pm

re: #266 calcajun

You mean there is some still for sale? Where? I need some .45 ACP rounds.

those are the short fat ones right?

275 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:36:26pm

re: #265 ArmyWife

Gibbs is the Court Jester, only to be usurped by our VP. What a world.

he'll be gone in the upcoming purge...it will be his fault BO is an idiot...exdpendable

276 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:36:37pm
277 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:36:44pm

re: #267 pink freud

Keep us posted!

278 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:36:46pm

re: #265 ArmyWife

Gibbs is the Court Jester, only to be usurped by our VP. What a world.

I'm convinced that Biden is basically Obama's life insurance policy.

Even the most rabid racist isn't going to try to assassinate Obama, if it means Biden becomes president.

279 jorline  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:37:20pm

re: #265 ArmyWife

Gibbs is the Court Jester, only to be usurped by our VP. What a world.

Where the hell is Joe? Is he in a remedial VP summer school program?

280 quickjustice  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:37:50pm

re: #276 buzzsawmonkey

[Belches]

281 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:37:51pm

re: #274 brookly red

those are the short fat ones right?

yes, one one is headed your way stand aside...really

282 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:37:54pm

re: #276 buzzsawmonkey

If you can pass the ammunition without retaining serious internal injury, praise the Lord indeed.

I now understand my father's pet phrase ...

"Well, shit fire and save matches!"

283 irongrampa  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:38:27pm

re: #267 pink freud

Yes, I remember that, the campaign got a little nasty, iirc.

284 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:38:30pm

re: #279 jorline

Where the hell is Joe? Is he in a remedial VP summer school program?

I was told he's constantly sent out for burgers.

I am starting to like him.

285 kynna  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:38:36pm

re: #237 kansas

We do need at least the hint of honesty from the media for that. I'm wondering with Chip Reid and Helen Thomas actually pressing the Gibbster today, this represents a turning point and the beginning of a little honesty?

The honesty is only because Helen Thomas carries a giant torch for Bill and Hillary Clinton. She'll give Obama a hard time, but only because of that.

Still, I'm not looking a gift hag in the mouth. Seriously. I'm not.

286 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:38:57pm

re: #279 jorline

Where the hell is Joe? Is he in a remedial VP summer school program?

He's being regifted every week.
He's like a lost puppy noone wants to find.

287 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:39:07pm

re: #279 jorline

He is the Unicorn Herding Czar. He is looking for the missing ones, and there seem to be a lot of them. Its quite busy work.

288 irongrampa  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:39:10pm

re: #276 buzzsawmonkey

Lends a whole new meaning to "shot to shit".

289 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:39:29pm

re: #285 kynna


Still, I'm not looking a gift hag in the mouth. Seriously. I'm not.

You sure can turn a phrase. :-)

290 kynna  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:39:44pm

re: #258 calcajun

You never know, he might have his own uman and thurim--you know, the Israelite executive decision makers used to determine God's will (before the time of Kings)

Doubtful.

291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:39:47pm

...

292 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:40:21pm

re: #285 kynna

Still, I'm not looking a gift hag in the mouth. Seriously. I'm not.


ROFLMAO!

293 LGoPs  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:40:25pm

Later Lizards

294 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:40:30pm

re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The internets just eated whut I said!

295 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:40:40pm

re: #274 brookly red

those are the short fat ones right?

Well....yes, they can be. They're shiny and gold-colored too. Usually have ".45" and/or "ACP" imprinted on the rim around the primer. Seen any?

296 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:41:03pm

re: #293 LGoPs

See ya, LGoPs!

297 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:41:05pm

He was in my neighborhood a few weeks ago, for the AF Academy graduation. Not sure where he went after that.

Maybe the Thunderbirds gave him a ride, and he accidentally pulled the wrong handle...

298 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:41:08pm

re: #294 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

show me your birth certificate.

299 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:41:08pm

re: #290 kynna

Doubtful.

OK, his own "Eight Ball"?

300 jorline  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:41:11pm

re: #268 OldLineTexan

Son, if we dont keep them fellers up'n DC cornvinced we's a buncha inbred hillbillies, they's gonna wise up sooner or later ... most of 'em ain't as dumb as they look!

/

I doesn't know about that. I recon they is as dumb as they look...you figger Waxman looks smart?

301 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:41:12pm

re: #258 calcajun

You never know, he might have his own uman and thurim--you know, the Israelite executive decision makers used to determine God's will (before the time of Kings)

I got an abridged Bible, they used a magic eight ball in that....

//;-P

302 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:41:44pm

re: #295 calcajun

Well....yes, they can be. They're shiny and gold-colored too. Usually have ".45" and/or "ACP" imprinted on the rim around the primer. Seen any?

I DID! quickjustice eated them!

/

303 legalpad  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:41:58pm

re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

...

....

304 irongrampa  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:42:02pm

Time for the old folk. There are trout to annoy tomorrow.

Good night, good people. We WILL prevail-one way or another.

305 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:42:08pm

re: #298 ArmyWife

What, and embarrass his mother and her brother?////

306 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:42:17pm

re: #298 ArmyWife

show me your birth certificate.

*drops trou and turns around*

Oh! *blushes*

Certificate, not MARK!

307 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:42:22pm

re: #278 lobo91

I'm convinced that Biden is basically Obama's life insurance policy.

Even the most rabid racist isn't going to try to assassinate Obama, if it means Biden becomes president.

Gonna try again... Old joke

If anything happens to President Bush (the Elder) the Secret Service has been instructed to immediately shoot Dan Quayle.

308 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:42:40pm
309 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:42:42pm

re: #300 jorline

I doesn't know about that. I recon they is as dumb as they look...you figger Waxman looks smart?

Now you tell me last time you saw a pig dress up and talk lahk thet ... of course he's smart. Damned smart fer a pig.

310 jorline  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:42:54pm

re: #284 OldLineTexan

I was told he's constantly sent out for burgers.

I am starting to like him.

lmao
He's drunk in the drive-thru.

311 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:42:59pm

re: #304 irongrampa

G'nite grandpa. Catch a mess of 'em! Sleep well.

312 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:43:08pm

re: #306 jcm

*faint*

313 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:43:10pm

re: #304 irongrampa

Time for the old folk. There are trout to annoy tomorrow.

Good night, good people. We WILL prevail-one way or another.

Me and albusteve will be there (with worms)

/

314 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:43:19pm

re: #1 albusteve

what's a cubit?

Cubit

315 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:43:44pm

re: #308 buzzsawmonkey

That's "Ummim and Thurim"--and no, it doesn't have anything to do with Uma Thurman.

He dropped the rock on Uma Thurman and if it fell between...oh. Never mind.//

316 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:43:58pm

re: #308 buzzsawmonkey

That's "Ummim and Thurim"--and no, it doesn't have anything to do with Uma Thurman.

/damn

317 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:45:10pm
318 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:45:19pm

re: #312 ArmyWife

*faint*

OHMYGODWHATIHAVEIDONE!

319 rancher  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:45:31pm

And the Lord God said:
Are you out of your f***ing mind? Consider what they did when you dared to question what their anointed one would do when it came to your measly wealth! Spread it bitch! You think they came after me, wait till you decide to run.

320 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:45:42pm

Am I the only one who thinks Biden missed his true calling as an Amway rep?

321 Neutral President  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:45:55pm

re: #308 buzzsawmonkey

That's "Ummim and Thurim"--and no, it doesn't have anything to do with Uma Thurman.

Sounds almost like Obama trying to answer a question without a teleprompter.

"Ummim... I don't think that.... thurim ummim.... we should ummim meddle with..."

322 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:45:58pm

re: #317 buzzsawmonkey

Goodnight, buzzsaw :-)

323 David Simon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:46:21pm

re: #254 ArmyWife

Helen is irretrievable lost.

I never understood why Bush got so much grief for not calling on Helen. As if it's polite to invite a crazy old bat to make an ass of herself.

324 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:46:25pm

re: #317 buzzsawmonkey

sleep tight!

325 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:46:44pm

Still @ work--back down into the salt mines.

bbl.

326 albusteve  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:46:45pm

even bigger than a Rams 49rs game..."this is gonna be big, really big"

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

327 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:46:52pm

re: #323 David Simon

I never understood why Bush got so much grief for not calling on Helen. As if it's polite to invite a crazy old bat to make an ass of herself.

Because he was Bush.

328 BatGuano  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:47:09pm

re: #323 David Simon

I never understood why Bush got so much grief for not calling on Helen. As if it's polite to invite a crazy old bat to make an ass of herself.

She gives bats a bad name.

329 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:47:15pm

re: #323 David Simon

W was a gentleman, wasn't he?

330 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:47:27pm

re: #328 BatGuano

Hey Bat!

331 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:48:09pm

re: #328 BatGuano

too bad Buzzsawmonkey went to sleep. There is a song in there!

332 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:48:21pm

re: #329 ArmyWife

W was a gentleman, wasn't he?

Still is, as far as I know.

333 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:48:42pm
334 BatGuano  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:49:07pm

re: #329 ArmyWife

W was a gentleman, wasn't he?

Indeed.

335 Tarkus289  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:49:50pm

re: #334 BatGuano

And Laura Bush was the epitome of a First Lady.

336 BatGuano  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:49:53pm

re: #330 pink freud

Hey Bat!

HI Pink!

337 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:50:03pm

re: #333 Iron Fist

I haven't seen any .45 for sale (FMJ or JHP) in a long time. I saw a box of FMJ at $0.50 a round at Wally World a couple of months ago, but they only had the one box. .45 is a rare, endangered species. I expect that it will continue to be rare (and endangered) as long as the Democrats control both houses of the Legislature and the Executive. Let me know if you spot any.

They have a stack at Tomball Pawn & Gun.

338 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:50:07pm

re: #333 Iron Fist

I haven't seen any .45 for sale (FMJ or JHP) in a long time. I saw a box of FMJ at $0.50 a round at Wally World a couple of months ago, but they only had the one box. .45 is a rare, endangered species. I expect that it will continue to be rare (and endangered) as long as the Democrats control both houses of the Legislature and the Executive. Let me know if you spot any.

So is .40 S&W. I just went through 8 pages of "out of stock" on the Midway site.

339 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:50:21pm

re: #335 Tarkus289

Shelly should have taken copious notes.

340 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:51:11pm

re: #252 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Its Middle Egyptian. shr is advice, plan, etc. nfr is good, pleasant, beautiful, etc.

shr nfr is "a good plan/advice". nfr shr translates as "the plan is good" there are sort of complex rules for what goes in front of what to mean something with migration of pronouns, fronting, etc. As somewhat Semetic language, they drop all the vowels in their writing. They have determinant signs after spellings when things are ambiguous. Both boat and taste are spelled "dpt" boat gets a little boat after it, taste gets a little tongue after it. They were almost certainly pronounced differently but when you drop the vowels, you get the same letters.

I could have done something like ink maat hru which translates as "I am true of voice" or "I tell the truth". maat was the Egyptian word that sort of meant true, order, etc. Quite important in Egypt. Order was very important. The sun came up, the sun went down, it almost never rained. The Nile rose, the Nile fell. If there was disruption in "the order of the universe, the Nile might not rise and you might starve. hru is voice. Very often found on tombs because of the wish that the deceased would be found "true of voice" and worthy of continued life by the gods. The ones that were not were fed to a sort of crocodile like dog that ate them and they ceased to exist.

Anyway as a hobby I taught myself to read Middle Egyptian. I do not write it well, but can slog through "The Book of Going Out By Day" aka "the Book of the Dead" A hobby to keep the brain working, no more no less. But the history of Egypt prior to Caesar is quite interesting to me in its own right.

341 legalpad  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:51:19pm

re: #335 Tarkus289

And Laura Bush was the epitome of a First Lady.

I spoke a bit with both of these folks when they were in the Governor's Mansion in Texas. They are both warm, down to earth, unpretentious, genuine.

342 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:51:51pm

re: #329 ArmyWife

W was a gentleman, wasn't he?

re: #335 Tarkus289

And Laura Bush was the epitome of a First Lady.

AND TONY SNOOOOOOOOOW!

343 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:52:16pm

re: #335 Tarkus289

And Laura Bush was the epitome of a First Lady.

As opposed to this.

/contrast effect

344 Tarkus289  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:52:29pm

re: #342 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

R.I.P fine man.

345 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:52:38pm

re: #341 legalpad

You have spoken with the Bushes? How cool is that!

346 kynna  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:52:39pm

re: #299 calcajun

OK, his own "Eight Ball"?

Probably. But if he's had it for too long the message part will always show two messages at a time. That's where free will comes in.

347 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:52:46pm
348 BatGuano  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:52:49pm

re: #335 Tarkus289

And Laura Bush was the epitome of a First Lady.

She should be emulated by future First ladies;Too late for the current.

349 Lincolntf  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:52:50pm

People are still worried about Joe and his Religious beliefs? Good Lord, what a joke that is.
All I can say is that if Obama shows up in my front yard and asks me a question, like he did to Joe, I'm gonna ask him why he hates the Capitalist system that has given him the best life (and most power) of anyone I've ever met.
It's kinda hilarious that the pro-Obama dis-informationists have to use a regular family man as their punching bag.

350 Shr_Nfr  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:53:17pm

re: #340 Shr_Nfr

the avatar is a guess as to what Tutankhamen looked like based on the most recent cat scans.

351 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:53:21pm

I think often of Tony Snow.

What is Gibb's first name?

352 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:53:22pm

re: #342 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

AND TONY SNOOOOOOOOOW!

I never thought I'd say it, but I actually miss Scott McClellan.

353 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:53:43pm

re: #351 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Robert

354 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:54:01pm

That damn military group went and saved lives off San Fran! Who do they think they are! [Link: www.blackfive.net...]

And also, Palin went to Kosovo to meet her troops. I will share a tent with her anytime. Sorry San Fran guys, you are out of luck here.

355 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:54:15pm

re: #343 pink freud

Sigh. Isn't there a finishing school we could cart her off too?

356 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:54:25pm

re: #351 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think often of Tony Snow.

What is Gibb's first name?

Shithead?

No, wait...Robert.

357 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:54:48pm

re: #352 lobo91

I never thought I'd say it, but I actually miss Scott McClellan.

Nope. Can't go there. Reminded me of George in Seinfeld. :-)

358 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:54:52pm

re: #352 lobo91

I never thought I'd say it, but I actually miss Scott McClellan.

Practice more.

359 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:55:24pm

re: #351 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I think often of Tony Snow.

What is Gibb's first name?

Andy ? No wait....Maurice.

360 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:55:24pm

And Dick Cheney was an incredible Vice President who was able to keep his foot out of his mouth.

However- God told me not to go hunting with him.

361 VioletTiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:55:29pm

re: #343 pink freud

As opposed to this.

/contrast effect


Oh my. She's not a happy camper there, is she?

362 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:55:37pm

re: #352 lobo91

I never thought I'd say it, but I actually miss Scott McClellan.

At least before he stabbed W in the back.

363 yochanan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:55:42pm

re: #326 albusteve

frankly i don't give a damn
when he was alive he gave me the creeps.

364 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:55:47pm

re: #355 ArmyWife

Sigh. Isn't there a finishing school we could cart her off too?

She do need one quite badly, don't she? What an embarrassment.

365 legalpad  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:55:53pm

re: #345 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You have spoken with the Bushes? How cool is that!

It was interesting. I was a contractor walking around the corner of the building. There's George W. 6 feet away, waiting for a ride. We talked 3 or 4 minutes. You'd think I was a Senator or something the way he spoke with me. I walked through a room where Laura was talking to two other people, all seated. She stopped and greeted me warmly like she had known me for years. It was interesting.

366 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:56:09pm

re: #360 Sharmuta

snicker

367 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:56:18pm

re: #357 pink freud

Nope. Can't go there. Reminded me of George in Seinfeld. :-)

"SERENITY NOW!"

368 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:56:24pm

re: #355 ArmyWife

Sigh. Isn't there a finishing school we could cart her off too?

Maybe we could send her to one of those training camps Hamas runs for the "security" guys, where they jump through flaming hoops and stuff.

Not that it would accomplish anything...I would just find it amusing to watch...

369 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:56:24pm

re: #360 Sharmuta

And Dick Cheney was an incredible Vice President who was able to keep his foot out of his mouth.

However- God told me not to go hunting with him.

Man, you shoot one life-long friend in the face, and people never quit ragging on you about it.

/

370 kynna  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:56:36pm

re: #348 BatGuano

She should be emulated by future First ladies;Too late for the current.

And she didn't get a fraction of the media love. A real shame. She and the Bush daughters are good role models (and proud of America whether they're getting everything they want or not).

371 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:56:46pm

re: #340 Shr_Nfr

Thank you for taking the time to explain that so clearly.

I am smarter for reading that.

Why do I feel more stupid.

Impressive. For a hobby? Dang.

372 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:57:22pm

re: #361 VioletTiger

Oh my. She's not a happy camper there, is she?

That picture says it all. A true mean-spirited woman there.

373 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:57:28pm

re: #359 SasquatchOnSteroids

LOL

374 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:57:57pm

re: #360 Sharmuta

www.instantrimshot.com...]>Ba-dum-bum!

375 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:58:04pm

re: #365 legalpad

Okay...same scenario... The 0bamas. What happens.

*Chin in hands...

376 yochanan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:58:17pm

re: #369 OldLineTexan

the guy was a lawyer i think Dick should get some credit for that.

377 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:58:24pm

re: #365 legalpad

Very cool.

378 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:58:30pm

re: #371 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thank you for taking the time to explain that so clearly.

I am smarter for reading that.

Why do I feel more stupid.

Impressive. For a hobby? Dang.

Well, if you'd quit knife-fighting, you'd have time for a productive hobby.

/

379 Truck Monkey  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:58:33pm

re: #300 jorline

I doesn't know about that. I recon they is as dumb as they look...you figger Waxman looks smart?

Waxman looks like Peter Pettigrew from the Harry Potter movie. Pettigrew actually is a rat that can turn into a person.

380 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:58:42pm
381 kynna  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:58:50pm

re: #343 pink freud

As opposed to this.

/contrast effect

That is definitely an unfortunate shot for MO. That lovely woman, looking angelically up to the heavens and MO looks like she's giving her the serious death glare.

382 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:58:55pm

re: #378 OldLineTexan

That's still with me.

383 VioletTiger  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:59:03pm

re: #360 Sharmuta

And Dick Cheney was an incredible Vice President who was able to keep his foot out of his mouth.

However- God told me not to go hunting with him.

I hope he also warned against driving around with Ted Kennedy.....

384 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:59:29pm

re: #375 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

you get sent out for hamburgers?

385 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:59:29pm

re: #376 yochanan

the guy was a lawyer i think Dick should get some credit for that.

Yes, Dick Cheney - a man so scary, he shot a lawyer in the face ... and the lawyer apologized.

/

386 aRedPhishHead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 6:59:39pm

I was just wondering the other day what happened to JTP. Glad to see he's up to nothing as usual.

Perhaps he remembered what happened when God told Pat Robertson to run for office.

387 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:00:30pm

re: #341 legalpad

I spoke a bit with both of these folks when they were in the Governor's Mansion in Texas. They are both warm, down to earth, unpretentious, genuine.

There was PBS series on the Queen of England. At one point the cameras are waiting with GWB at the South Portico for her to arrive. It's hard to explain but it was clear he was awestruck that he was going to greet the Queen as President.

388 yochanan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:00:50pm

re: #385 OldLineTexan

Dick was also the reason some moonbat did not try to shot President Bush.

389 Truck Monkey  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:00:59pm

re: #320 lobo91

Am I the only one who thinks Biden missed his true calling as an Amway rep?

He could step into Billy Mays gig.

390 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:01:23pm

re: #343 pink freud

As opposed to this.

/contrast effect

That's the look of a classic backstabber. I'll bet she was all smiles.....until THE CHANCE.

391 jdog29  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:01:42pm

re: #369 OldLineTexan

... and then Dick Cheney shot me in the face." none of my stories get that exciting.

392 yochanan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:01:43pm

re: #389 Truck Monkey

amway has higher standards

393 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:01:57pm

re: #380 Iron Fist

There are reports of ammo being available. OR said for a long time that where he got his had pleanty, but IIRC that changed. Around here there is next to nothing. Wally World is rationing ammo, only allowing people to buy two boxes a day. They've had too many people come in and buy everything they had. Neverttheless, they rarely have anything except very expensive ammo for odd caliber rifles. Common pistol calibers is hard to find. The same is true at Gander Mountain. The shelves stay empty. New stock comes in, and goes out just about as quick as they can put it on the shelves.

If you've got a .45, if it were me, I'd go buy as much as I can while they have it.

I have never even attempted to buy ammo at Wallyworld ... I'll have to check. I like to go to Academy or that pawn store.

394 Code Red 21  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:01:58pm

re: #343 pink freud

As opposed to this.

/contrast effect


She looks like she would put a tire necklace around her neck without blinking an eye. That's one scary looking beatch

395 wee fury  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:02:26pm

re: #260 quickjustice

Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition!

For you.

396 yochanan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:02:57pm

re: #389 Truck Monkey

i beg to differ Mays was quick on his feet, no hoof in mouth there.

397 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:03:10pm

re: #390 SasquatchOnSteroids

That's the look of a classic backstabber. I'll bet she was all smiles.....until THE CHANCE.

A bitter woman. No matter what she's had the good fortune to have in her life ...her children, her wealth, her position now ....her health ....all of it. None of it can balance out her bitterness and ugliness. Runs to the bone.

398 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:03:36pm

re: #391 jdog29

... and then Dick Cheney shot me in the face." none of my stories get that exciting.

Gotta go with the boring story on that one.
I have enough problems with attraction.

399 pat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:03:42pm

re: #343 pink freud

That is a very difficult pic to explain. I suspect it will not go away unless she says her daughter was just on the other side with frog in her hand.

400 legalpad  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:04:02pm

re: #375 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Okay...same scenario... The 0bamas. What happens.

*Chin in hands...

Same as with a lot of elitists: don't look us in the eye. But I would and drop the contract. I've only had to actually walk out on one such person. Told them to go to the yellow pages.

401 David Simon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:04:15pm

Operation Khanjar has begun:

The push is the largest since the Pentagon began moving additional troops into the conflict this year, and it follows a British-led operation launched last week in the same region, the Marines said.

It is also the first big move since U.S. Gen. Stanley McChrystal took over as the allied commander in Afghanistan in mid-June.

In Washington, a senior defense official said the size and scope of the new operation are "very significant."

"It's not common for forces to operate at the brigade level," the official said. "In fact, they often only conduct missions at the platoon level. And they're going into the most troubled area of Afghanistan."

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

402 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:04:25pm

re: #380 Iron Fist

BTW, I want one of these.

Cheap "ammo".

403 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:04:29pm

It's that time, Honcos. I must get some reading in, and try to sleep as I've got a Chemical plant to attend to in the morning.

Nightsie noodles!

404 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:04:32pm

re: #365 legalpad

It was interesting. I was a contractor walking around the corner of the building. There's George W. 6 feet away, waiting for a ride. We talked 3 or 4 minutes. You'd think I was a Senator or something the way he spoke with me. I walked through a room where Laura was talking to two other people, all seated. She stopped and greeted me warmly like she had known me for years. It was interesting.

Interesting contrast with the time I "met" Paul Allen. I used to work at one of the many properties he owns. In the three years I worked there, he spent exactly 2 nights there. Anyway, the morning after he arrived, I was talking to the caretaker about something when Allen walked into the office. He walked right up to the caretaker and started talking to him, as though I wasn't even there. After a minute or so, I sort of backed out of the room, quietly.

405 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:04:54pm

re: #399 pat

That is a very difficult pic to explain. I suspect it will not go away unless she says her daughter was just on the other side with frog in her hand.

Aw, now Pat! I thought I was doing an admirable job of explaining it! ;-)

406 aRedPhishHead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:05:01pm
Yes, Dick Cheney - a man so scary, he shot a lawyer in the face ... and the lawyer apologized.

Heh. I miss Dickster McHalliburton.

Dick was also the reason some moonbat did not try to shot President Bush.

And maybe Biden is there to discourage people from shooting Obama. You know, it makes sense in a crazy, Troofer-ish, cynical sort of way.

407 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:05:38pm

re: #403 ArmyWife

Goodnight sweetpea!

408 Lincolntf  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:05:43pm

Joe the Plumber just raised my taxes and made it impossible fior me to care for my family!
Oops, it was Obama who did that. Never mind.

409 kynna  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:05:54pm

re: #157 hazzyday

I will talk to God everyday. With the idea that I am the most imperfect receptor ever. The most I can seem to get is some general directions. Like my life works out better if I don't rush to be ahead of everyone else. Like I should slow down and take my time and better things will happen to me at an average speed. Life seems to bear that out with continuous lesson reinforcement.

When Pat Robertson talks to God I think he means something different. Like he has a two way TV channel to heaven. I just think he is confused by the role he has accepted and misinterprets his ego as God a lot.

Joe the Plumber is probably somewhere in between.

My impression is that JtP is probably more like you. Which is why I can't get all jazzed about making fun of people who say God 'told' them something. It's not likely the vast majority of them are speaking literally.

410 jdog29  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:06:42pm

re: #398 SasquatchOnSteroids

dang boy, remind me to never hang out with you. How many times did you get shot in face before it became boring?

411 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:06:46pm

re: #380 Iron Fist

What about .357 mags? Are they hard to find?

412 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:07:15pm
413 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:07:21pm

re: #401 David Simon

What's that sound you hear? Moonbat heads exploding everywhere!

414 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:07:45pm

re: #397 pink freud

A bitter woman. No matter what she's had the good fortune to have in her life ...her children, her wealth, her position now ....her health ....all of it. None of it can balance out her bitterness and ugliness. Runs to the bone.

When I was down and out, not sure if I could afford a place to stay or food to eat I woke up in the morning and thanked God I lived where I had the opportunity every day to go out make things better for myself.

She's reached the pinnacle of achievement in this country. Yet get's up in the morning and catalogs everything that's wrong.

415 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:08:02pm

re: #380 Iron Fist

When the daughter was buying my Father's Day presents, she was limited to 6 boxes by Wal-Mart, per trip.

But a local gun shop had all the .45ACP she cared to buy. Italian made, Fiiochi or some such FMJ, but they had more than plenty.

416 BatGuano  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:08:13pm

re: #370 kynna

The worst First Lady of my lifetime was Mrs. Carter. She said about President Reagan, " He made us comfortable with our prejudices". What do you expect from someone who would marry a man who would not only be be the worst president in living memory but also the worst ex-president in history?

417 pat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:08:32pm

The Obama's are very angry people. Too bad it takes the English press to say it out loud.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

418 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:08:42pm
419 jorline  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:08:45pm

re: #347 OldLineTexan

Hey, jorline ... we need to move your joint east a bit.

I they ever cut the state in half, south TX would be the fattest.
Tacos, beans, burgers and tons of cheese. Just look at the diabetes rates in south TX.

420 lobo91  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:08:52pm

re: #412 Iron Fist

They usually have the best prices. Before the election you could buy 100 rounds of Remington 230gr .45 JHPs for $36. That is JHP almost for FMJ prices. I haven't seen that deal since the election. You won't find real exotic calibers there, but they used to be solid for all your common rounds. Not any more.

All the WalMarts in our area have are empty shelves.

Maybe a couple of boxes of 12 gauge.

421 jdog29  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:09:04pm

now there was that one time I almost got into a knife fight in Nashville on Thanksgiving....

422 BatGuano  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:09:22pm

re: #403 ArmyWife

Goodnight, Armywife.

424 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:09:49pm

re: #410 jdog29

dang boy, remind me to never hang out with you. How many times did you get shot in face before it became boring?

Never deed. I's was sayin' I don't wants to be shot in tha face, dagnabbit.

You should ask that Levinsky girl 'bout that, thoughs.

425 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:11:29pm
426 legalpad  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:12:48pm

re: #425 Sharmuta

10 Ways Dick Cheney Can Kill You

That hilarious!

427 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:12:58pm

re: #414 jcm

You're a good man, jcm. I've enjoyed your posts for a long time.

428 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:13:06pm

re: #425 Sharmuta

10 Ways Dick Cheney Can Kill You

ROFLMAO.

429 BatGuano  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:13:07pm

re: #425 Sharmuta

10 Ways Dick Cheney Can Kill You

/Whatever gets the job done. They probably needed killin'.

430 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:13:57pm

re: #425 Sharmuta

10 Ways Dick Cheney Can Kill You

ROFLAMO!

431 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:14:29pm
432 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:14:38pm

re: #416 BatGuano

The worst First Lady of my lifetime was Mrs. Carter. She said about President Reagan, " He made us comfortable with our prejudices". What do you expect from someone who would marry a man who would not only be be the worst president in living memory but also the worst ex-president in history?

Another skanky woman.

433 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:14:52pm

re: #425 Sharmuta

10 Ways Dick Cheney Can Kill You

My favorite is the telekinesis.

434 teleskiguy  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:15:02pm

JTP, an enabler of Christian Supremacists! I thought dude's 15 minutes were up!

435 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:15:35pm

Evening folks, just settling in for a long night of staying up...hope everyone is doing well = )

436 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:16:36pm

re: #343 pink freud

As opposed to this.

/contrast effect

Eww. I do not want to get between these two ladies.

Now, there is an element here that must be brought up. The French First lady is, of course, French. There might be a "person hygiene" issue here--sort of a cultural thing that's causing Mrs. O to crinkle her forehead. Just another way of looking at it.

437 BatGuano  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:17:01pm

re: #435 srb1976

Hi, srb!

438 pat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:17:09pm

re: #432 pink freud

She is simply explaining that Regan made her comfortable with her anti-antisemitism.

439 Lincolntf  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:17:34pm

re: #421 jdog29

Have you ever really been in a knife fight? Scary shit.
The one time someone seriously pulled a knife on me, me and my buddy (call him EL) were in Rheinland-Pfalz and some jackass with a mohawk wanted to rob us outside of a (I kid you not) Boy George concert at some disco club. Must've been 1993.
Fortunately, we ended up going through the window of a watch store during the tussle and it set off a billion alarms. Polizei arrived promptly. He never even nicked me.
Sometimes when I wake up sloppy I still see that knife in my half-dream state.

440 Henchman Ghazi-808  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:18:01pm

re: #423 Sharmuta

Will it ever end?

441 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:20:48pm

re: #440 BigPapa

I'm just floored by that. Really makes me think less of all of these men.

442 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:21:45pm

re: #436 calcajun

Eww. I do not want to get between these two ladies.

Now, there is an element here that must be brought up. The French First lady is, of course, French. There might be a "person hygiene" issue here--sort of a cultural thing that's causing Mrs. O to crinkle her forehead. Just another way of looking at it.

Now cal. For some reason I believe you to be an attorney. Based on that assumption, I find it amazing that you could look at that picture and see only a crinkled forehead?

443 John Neverbend  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:21:52pm

God moves in mysterious ways.

444 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:22:53pm

Is this guy married?

445 John Neverbend  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:23:56pm

re: #28 albusteve

God is a republican...how cool is that?

I wonder if he talks with an American accent.

446 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:24:22pm

re: #442 pink freud

I was trying to be nice--she's obviously about to have a throw down with her French opposite number.

good call on the attorney bit, though.

447 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:24:26pm
448 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:25:17pm
449 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:25:45pm

re: #423 Sharmuta

What do you call a cat fight when it's a bunch of guys?

"a congenital aversion to the truth"

I love that quote.

450 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:25:54pm

re: #445 John Neverbend

I wonder if he talks with an American accent.


"He"? With all the mood swings God had on the OT, he's either bi-polar or a ... I'd better quit now, shouldn't I.//

451 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:26:04pm

re: #444 eclectic infidel

Is this guy married?

You interested?

452 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:26:22pm

re: #369 OldLineTexan

Man, you shoot one life-long friend in the face, and people never quit ragging on you about it.

/

Especially when the guy pops up right in front of your gun, as you're about to shoot. The guy was pretty sheepish about doing that.

453 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:27:17pm

re: #448 jcm

Who's acrophobic?

Get a whole new view of Chicago from Sears Tower on The Ledge

It's the last thing Helen Thomas will see if she goes to Chicago.///

454 hous bin pharteen  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:27:42pm

re: #431 Iron Fist

Thanks. I have not gone looking since my eyesight has not gotten better. The last thing I want is to have an accident with one. But the eyesight has gotten allot better, and the area I live in has a shooting everyday. There was even talk about sending in the National Guard. The legal stuff maybe hard to get, but the illegal is plenty easy. With democrats in charge, they want to prevent gun ownership with the middle class working stiffs. But street gangs, they don't want to hold back. I kid you not.

455 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:28:09pm

re: #446 calcajun

I see contempt, disgust, jealousy ....and a complete unawareness on Sarkozy's part that her seat-mate is experiencing these emotions.

(I admit the jealousy may be stretching it, though ...we do not know for sure what that look is directed toward.)

Have you ever read Blink, by Malcolm Gladwell? Excellent book; good insight into human motivations and behavior ...how we process things in ways we aren't even aware of.

456 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:28:36pm

re: #447 Iron Fist

A knife is a deeadly, deadly weapon if the person with it knows what they are doing. I've trained extensively in its use, but I've never been in a real knife fight. I had a kid pull a knife on me once. I grinned real big and pulled my knife. Homeboy didn't want to play anymore. "No one will fight me. They all run away" :-)

I'm quick with a knife, and quick to pull it (or used to be, anyway. I've gotten older and slower), but most people just fold when they see a blade. I've heard people say that they are more afraid of getting cut than they are getting shot, and there is quite a bit of sense in that.

There is a reason why the 21 foot rule* exists.

21 foot rule, for a person using a handgun to defending against a knife attack. When the knife wielding attacker gets within 21 feet shooting them is acceptable. 21 feet and under it's a toss up as to who wins knife or gun.

457 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:28:48pm

re: #448 jcm

Who's acrophobic?

Get a whole new view of Chicago from Sears Tower on The Ledge

Does it count if I get a little sick just looking at the picture? Fear of heights...yeah, that's me!

458 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:29:55pm

re: #457 srb1976

Does it count if I get a little sick just looking at the picture? Fear of heights...yeah, that's me!

I've been waiting for something like that.

459 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:30:02pm

re: #415 razorbacker

When the daughter was buying my Father's Day presents, she was limited to 6 boxes by Wal-Mart, per trip.

But a local gun shop had all the .45ACP she cared to buy. Italian made, Fiiochi or some such FMJ, but they had more than plenty.

Fiocchi supplies all the Glock matches, or did. It's good quality.

460 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:30:07pm

re: #457 srb1976

If you hurl on the keyboard, yes, it counts.

461 BatGuano  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:30:34pm

re: #457 srb1976

Does it count if I get a little sick just looking at the picture? Fear of heights...yeah, that's me!

I blew chunks on my keyboard!

462 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:30:59pm

re: #448 jcm

Who's acrophobic?

Get a whole new view of Chicago from Sears Tower on The Ledge

Yeesh. No thanks.

463 Henchman Ghazi-808  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:31:14pm

re: #441 Sharmuta

The nasty back-and-forth between the two well-known Republicans and re-litigating of internal backbiting underscores the degree to which the internecine and very personal battle over last fall’s ticket between those seen as Palin allies and Palin detractors still rages on nearly six months into President Obama’s term.

I'm suspicious of Schmidt. He's a player of the media, not supposed to be a player in the media like Kristol. Somebody needs to back down.

464 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:31:29pm

re: #452 Ward Cleaver

Especially when the guy pops up right in front of your gun, as you're about to shoot. The guy was pretty sheepish about doing that.

A "going to the hospital" mistake will do that to you.

465 BatGuano  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:31:54pm

re: #460 calcajun

You guessed it!

466 John Neverbend  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:32:54pm

re: #450 calcajun

"He"? With all the mood swings God had on the OT, he's either bi-polar or a ... I'd better quit now, shouldn't I.//

When I was a little boy, I imagined Him to be an oldish bald man (no beard) dressed rather like a Supreme Court Justice, even though I had not at that stage seen a Supreme Court Justice.

467 Gearhead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:33:14pm

re: #448 jcm

Who's acrophobic?

Get a whole new view of Chicago from Sears Tower on The Ledge

I wonder how fast my breakfast would be going by the time it hit the sidewalk...

468 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:33:19pm

re: #460 calcajun

If you hurl on the keyboard, yes, it counts.

Not quite....but I'm the person who gets a bit dizzy on a catwalk with handrails.....yeesh!

469 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:33:56pm

re: #457 srb1976

Does it count if I get a little sick just looking at the picture? Fear of heights...yeah, that's me!

I'd look for the "Made in China" sticker on the glass before I'd, well, you know...

470 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:34:08pm

re: #459 OldLineTexan

Fiocchi supplies all the Glock matches, or did. It's good quality.

It comes out the little hole in the front end just like the Winchester does.

471 Stuart Leviton  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:34:20pm

Darwinism is false; Creationism is correct (*)
Where is Obama's birth certificate (**)

I would like to respectfully request the deletion of talk point # 178 under the Cynthia McKinney arrest story.

The video is of a young child throwing a tantrum over something although
we do not know what. We are told that the child is upset because his computer game privileges have been rescinded; We do not know if this is true. If it is true, we do not know what led up to the child losing his privileges. Nor do we know if there is a history of abuse in that family which has left the child whom we see supposedly easily triggered. What we do know is that someone has posted a video in which we watch a child in terrible pain.

What we do see is a video which has been surreptitiously recorded
and then posted on the Internet - again surreptitiously. Does the upset
child featured in the video know that a video was made? Has the upset
child given permission for the video to be posted? I suspect the answer
is 'no' in both cases and that we have been duped into becoming unwitting
participants in humiliating a young child.

Who is this child who surreptitiously turns on and off the video recorder and then posts it on the Internet? Is that child tied into a cruel family drama? What is the child's motivation for posting a video about humiliation? Cruelty is not natural to children. They have to be taught cruelty. Has the posting child been taught cruelty? Apparently yes. Have both children been subjected to abuse? We do not know. We do not know but something is ghastly wrong.

At the very least the video should be removed from lgf and removed from the Internet altogether. That family needs help before the drama becomes any worse.

Lizards, when I was growing up, many children used to gather down the street from one particular house and listen to the arguing emanating from that house. We thought it was funny. Surely the other adults in the neighborhood heard the fighting. Did the adults ever do anything to help that suffering family? Years later (May 20, 1988) the daughter of that family invaded an elementary school in Winnetka Illinois and opened fire on the children. One young boy was killed, and five other children were wounded. I do not know if the video posted on lgf will lead to a similar tragedy but I believe we have a responsibility.

Lizards, it is our turn to do a good deed.

(*) And Rumpelstiltskin is the King of France, and two plus two equals five (2 + 2 = 5). I just wanted to make certain that I caught Charles attention for I do feel strongly about the video posted. Charles has worked too hard to create a reputable website only to have someone post something possibly related to child abuse.

(**) Again my apologies. I am not a nirther (or whatever the phrase is).

Thank you dear community for reading this. Blessings and goodness to all.

472 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:34:27pm

re: #468 srb1976

Not quite....but I'm the person who gets a bit dizzy on a catwalk with handrails.....yeesh!

Former high angle rescue on the fire dept.

I look at a tall building and think how much fun it would be rappel down the outside.

473 jordash1212  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:34:33pm

He's so much of a celebrity, he might of actually had a chance. The elected officials in this country will resent you for not joining the conspiracy of celebrity-led politics, Joe!

474 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:34:48pm

re: #448 jcm

Who's acrophobic?

Get a whole new view of Chicago from Sears Tower on The Ledge

Something like that wouldn't make me physically ill. More like sudden panic and the need to step back quickly or run away "from the ledge." I'd be more comfortable in a biplane doing loops.

475 Lincolntf  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:35:34pm

re: #447 Iron Fist

I think me and E. were lucky. He was alone. The guy obviously thought we were tourists or clubbers (the club was less than a mile from the base), and expected us to give up our wallets. The minute I saw the knife and realized that I was being robbed rather than solicited it was all survival mode.
EL went low, I grabbed the shitbag's head, and the rest is kind of a blur. I know that when the cops got there I was kicking the dude and EL was stopping everyone from stopping me.
My main point being that knives are scary as hell.

476 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:35:53pm

re: #470 razorbacker

It comes out the little hole in the front end just like the Winchester does.

Some ammo is to be avoided. I don't use anything from the Spanish military (anymore).

477 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:35:53pm

re: #423 Sharmuta

What do you call a cat fight when it's a bunch of guys?

I've been sorta following that one a little bit. I don't think anyone comes out of it looking good. It's a mess on all sides and to me it provides further evidence that the ticket was not equipped to be in the White House.

478 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:36:32pm

Teen clung to Comoros plane wreckage for 13 hours2.html
Jul 1, 8:01 PM (ET)
By TOM MALITI and ANGELA CHARLTON

MORONI, Comoros (AP) - The lone survivor of a Yemeni jetliner crash, who clung to wreckage for 13 hours before being rescued, lay in a hospital bed with a broken collarbone Wednesday, asking for little - except for a chance to see her mother.

But relatives said 14-year-old Bahia Bakari was too traumatized to be told her mother was feared dead, along with 151 others on board the Yemenia airways flight.

"I have told her that her mother is in the next room," the girl's uncle, Joseph Yousouf, told The Associated Press outside a hospital in this former French colony, where the jetliner was attempting to land in fierce winds before dawn Tuesday when it slammed into the Indian Ocean.

He said the girl was coherent and asking for food.

479 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:36:49pm

re: #474 Gus 802

Something like that wouldn't make me physically ill. More like sudden panic and the need to step back quickly or run away "from the ledge." I'd be more comfortable in a biplane doing loops.

I've been motion sick once in my life.
While sitting still, in an Omnidome theatre showing the pilots view of a helicopter flying up a canyon.

Aerobatics in an open cockpit are great!

480 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:37:37pm

re: #477 Killgore Trout

I've been sorta following that one a little bit. I don't think anyone comes out of it looking good. It's a mess on all sides and to me it provides further evidence that the ticket was not equipped to be in the White House.

Yet Obama is "equipped to be in the White House?"

481 John Neverbend  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:37:53pm

re: #24 buzzsawmonkey

My God told me not to run
My God told me not to run
That ain't the way to have fun, no
That ain't the way to have fun

--Three God Night

That takes me back a few years.

482 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:37:59pm

re: #472 jcm

Former high angle rescue on the fire dept.

I look at a tall building and think how much fun it would be rappel down the outside.

Company I work for has trained an in house high angle and confined space team...to cooperate with the Fire Dept. My dad volunteered....he's afraid of heights and claustrophobic....silly, but even in drills he goes just as fast as he can = )

483 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:38:13pm

Palin: 'I'd win' a race against Obama
Published: July 1, 2009 at 6:44 PM

Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the former Republican vice presidential nominee, said she thinks she can win running against Obama -- that is, in an actual footrace.

Palin said in an interview with Runner's World that she would "absolutely" accept an invitation to go running with President Barack Obama and she said she is confident she would win in a race.

484 Henchman Ghazi-808  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:38:33pm

re: #471 Stuart Leviton

I think that video is fake. I said as much to the person sending it to me, and his reply was 'so what, it's hella funny.'

There's some truth in that.

485 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:38:56pm

re: #477 Killgore Trout

I've been sorta following that one a little bit. I don't think anyone comes out of it looking good. It's a mess on all sides and to me it provides further evidence that the ticket was not equipped to be in the White House.

It's really unbecoming.

486 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:39:56pm

Evening lizards.....just a quick drive-by.

487 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:40:50pm

re: #486 Fenway_Nation

Evening lizards.....just a quick drive-by.

bye

//

hope your search is going well ?

488 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:41:09pm

re: #479 jcm

I've been motion sick once in my life.
While sitting still, in an Omnidome theatre showing the pilots view of a helicopter flying up a canyon.

Aerobatics in an open cockpit are great!

There's a video at Liveleak of a "glass floor" in the CN Tower in Toronto. Saw it this morning.

489 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:42:15pm

Pig survives crash, found in woman's pool
Published: July 1, 2009 at 5:16 PM

An Arkansas woman said she was shocked when she looked out a window and saw an 800-pound pig taking a dip in her backyard pool.

The pig, a survivor of a June 22 crash involving a truck carrying 90 sows to a processing plant, was discovered Monday by LeAnn Baldy, who lives in an unincorporated neighborhood near the interchange of Interstates 40 and 430, the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette reported Wednesday.

490 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:42:33pm

re: #483 FurryOldGuyJeans

Palin: 'I'd win' a race against Obama
Published: July 1, 2009 at 6:44 PM

Well, she does have nice legs; shorter, but nicer.

491 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:42:40pm

re: #471 Stuart Leviton

You mean that's not Obama when health care doesn't pass?

492 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:42:46pm

No need for ammo, the Feds are a comin' for your guns - you know the ones that are not going to Mexico...
/
"Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time"

493 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:43:12pm
494 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:43:50pm

re: #480 Gus 802

At least Biden and Obama's staff aren't sniping at each other and leaking embarrassing stories to the press about each other.

495 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:44:19pm

re: #489 FurryOldGuyJeans

Pig survives crash, found in woman's pool
Published: July 1, 2009 at 5:16 PM

Pig Mania!

496 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:44:26pm

My paternal grandfather was an experienced fellow in the ways of ne'er-do-wells and miscreants of all types, having been one lifelong, himself.

His advice on knifefighting was simple.

"Don't fight with knives. You're likely to get cut up."

497 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:44:29pm

re: #489 FurryOldGuyJeans

You forgot to add that she immediately cranked up the thermostat on the pool to high, dumped in several sacks of garlic and potatoes and braised the pig for several hours before having a huge block party.

498 Truth Dr.  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:45:04pm

Thank goodness Antonia Zerbisias's Canada only exists in her sinkhole of a life:

[Link: www.thestar.com...]

499 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:45:19pm

re: #495 jcm

Pig Mania!

I used to have a first edition set of that game. It was fun throwing pigs.

500 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:45:26pm

re: #494 Killgore Trout

At least Biden and Obama's staff aren't sniping at each other and leaking embarrassing stories to the press about each other.

Right. Biden is a walking, talking embarrassment.

Obama has Gibbs, Axelrod, and Emanuel to orchestrate his presidency as well as a consistently fawning media machine.

501 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:45:59pm

re: #489 FurryOldGuyJeans

Pig survives crash, found in woman's pool
Published: July 1, 2009 at 5:16 PM

In related news :

Lost : One Pig

502 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:46:23pm

Board reprimands CEO who showed porn
Published: July 1, 2009 at 4:25 PM

The chief executive of a Swedish municipal housing company has been reprimanded for displaying a pornographic image during a presentation, the company said.

Par Nyberg, 63, head of the Kopparstaden municipal housing company in Falun, received a formal warning and his pay was docked after the projector he ran during a presentation to the company's board displayed an image of a naked woman instead of the first slide, The Local reported Wednesday.

503 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:46:48pm

re: #492 The Shadow Do

No need for ammo, the Feds are a comin' for your guns - you know the ones that are not going to Mexico...
/
"Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time"

It turned out two handguns, of a type drug gangsters prefer, were bought by a pastor for target practice.

/the kind that shoots, I'd bet
/oh noes

504 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:46:52pm

Stratoshpere Tower

This one even messed with me in person....the wall leans out...they even let you lean on it....yeesh

505 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:47:15pm

re: #500 Gus 802

Right. Biden is a walking, talking embarrassment.

Obama has Gibbs, Axelrod, and Emanuel to orchestrate his presidency as well as a consistently fawning media machine.

The only thing that really matters, a fawning media machine willing and able to propagandize and prostitute for political gain.

506 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:47:18pm
507 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:48:05pm

re: #494 Killgore Trout

Yet. 2012 is coming, and 2016 will arrive as well.

508 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:48:21pm
509 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:48:42pm
510 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:48:46pm
511 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:48:48pm

re: #494 Killgore Trout

At least Biden and Obama's staff aren't sniping at each other and leaking embarrassing stories to the press about each other.

I can't honestly say that we'd hear about it.
Maybe in 2017.

512 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:48:49pm

re: #505 FurryOldGuyJeans

The only thing that really matters, a fawning media machine willing and able to propagandize and prostitute for political gain.

Even Helen Thomas has begun to notice to a certain extent. ABC practically moved in for the Obamacare media stunt. Which by the way had terrible ratings.

513 Gearhead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:49:45pm

re: #504 srb1976

Stratoshpere Tower

This one even messed with me in person....the wall leans out...they even let you lean on it....yeesh

What they really need is a window that gives a little when you lean on it.

Well, that and a convenient place for visitors to clean themselves up.

514 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:50:51pm

re: #492 The Shadow Do

No need for ammo, the Feds are a comin' for your guns - you know the ones that are not going to Mexico...
/
"Federal agents hunt for guns, one house at a time"

the government can’t compile databases on gun owners under federal law.

How much you wanna' bet that'll change?

515 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:51:13pm

re: #513 Gearhead

What they really need is a window that gives a little when you lean on it.

Well, that and a convenient place for visitors to clean themselves up.

You think that's cool, you oughta see that glass walkway they've built curving over the Grand Canyon.

516 Flyers1974  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:51:18pm

re: #477 Killgore Trout

I've been sorta following that one a little bit. I don't think anyone comes out of it looking good. It's a mess on all sides and to me it provides further evidence that the ticket was not equipped to be in the White House.

Palin had her chance. Once she was announced as the VP candidate, she had the floor - because she was such an unexpected and different choice, i.e., unknown, female, relatively young and for a politician, attractive. People were fascinated by her. As a result, she had the ability to define herself regardless of the msm, by her words and demeanor alone. Maybe part of it was the attack dog role VP candidates traditionally are given, but whatever the case, she didn't win anyone over but the base.

517 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:51:19pm

re: #513 Gearhead

What they really need is a window that gives a little when you lean on it.

Well, that and a convenient place for visitors to clean themselves up.

Better half pressed right up against it...I was like 5 feet back...Oh hell no, I'm not getting any closer....but better half even rode the free fall ride on top of that building.....not brave enough for that either

518 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:51:24pm

re: #503 OldLineTexan

It turned out two handguns, of a type drug gangsters prefer, were bought by a pastor for target practice.

/the kind that shoots, I'd bet
/oh noes

LOL!

I liked this one better though, file under stupid criminal watch:

The lamest so far came from a police officer: He said he bought a few military-style rifles, left them in his car and — on the same night — forgot to lock a door. He couldn’t explain why he didn’t file a police report or why he visited Mexico the day after the alleged theft.
519 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:51:32pm

re: #506 reine.de.tout

How cool is this?

Sears Tower unveils 103rd floor glass balconies

Never mind me. I'll just stand in the corner and quietly hyperventilate.

520 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:51:45pm

House burns after fire training
Published: July 1, 2009 at 6:32 PM

Authorities in Ohio say firefighters were called to a burning house used for training exercises the previous day.

521 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:52:00pm

re: #514 MandyManners

the government can’t compile databases on gun owners under federal law.

How much you wanna' bet that'll change?

Not until after 2010 at least.

522 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:52:30pm

re: #508 Iron Fist

The late Grandmaster Remy Presas used to do that demonstration when he was training law enforcement. He always won, if it was under 21 feet. A bullet-proof vest won't necessarily stop a knife (it's better than just a shirt, but you can stab through it. It isn't designed to stop a knife), and most people don't wear kevlar in their crotch* anyway.

*My first line of attack is almost always going to be the femoral arteries in the legs. Cut it up at the hip joint (it is quite close to the skin there), and it will snake back into the hip socket. You can't get a clamp in there to shut it off. Not in time to save the dude's life.

We did a lot of 21 foot drills in combat handgun training. Starting at 21 feet, the "bad" guy drew a knife and charge, we had to draw and get a round off.

Even if we were on target the "bad" guy's momentum he'd still reach us. That was with just us trainees. I can imagine with someone trained and experience in knife fighting.

Yep, knifes can defeat vests.

523 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:52:32pm
524 Ojoe  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:52:34pm

re: #514 MandyManners

There's plenty of firearms that have been around so long that the feds have no idea what they are and where they are. "Grandpa's rifles" so to speak.

525 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:52:38pm

re: #502 FurryOldGuyJeans

Board reprimands CEO who showed porn
Published: July 1, 2009 at 4:25 PM

I bet his meetings will be highly attended in the future!

526 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:52:46pm

re: #514 MandyManners

the government can’t compile databases on gun owners under federal law.

How much you wanna' bet that'll change?

Nope, not gonna' betcha, no siree...

527 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:52:56pm

re: #506 reine.de.tout

Hi *Reenee*! ;-)

528 Gearhead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:52:57pm

re: #515 razorbacker

You think that's cool, you oughta see that glass walkway they've built curving over the Grand Canyon.

I've seen it (on nerd TV, not in person). It is cool.

529 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:53:01pm

re: #519 EmmmieG

Never mind me. I'll just stand in the corner and quietly hyperventilate.

Maybe I'd go if I brought a parachute.

/Just in case.

530 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:54:40pm

Pez sues museum over giant dispenser
Published: July 1, 2009 at 6:40 PM

The company that makes Pez candy is suing a California museum, seeking to have a giant Pez dispenser created by the owners destroyed.

Pez Candy Inc. said in the federal lawsuit, filed in San Jose, Calif., that the giant snowman Pez dispenser at the Museum of Pez Memorabilia in Burlingame amounts to trademark infringement and should be destroyed, KTVU-TV, Oakland, Calif., reported Wednesday.

531 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:54:42pm

re: #502 FurryOldGuyJeans

Board reprimands CEO who showed porn
Published: July 1, 2009 at 4:25 PM

Employees who attended the meeting called it THE GREATEST BOARD MEETING EVAH !

532 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:55:01pm

re: #523 Iron Fist

Yup

533 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:55:30pm

re: #530 FurryOldGuyJeans

Pez sues museum over giant dispenser
Published: July 1, 2009 at 6:40 PM

Might help to actually include the frakkin' link, d'oh!

534 jorline  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:56:06pm

re: #506 reine.de.tout

How cool is this?

Sears Tower unveils 103rd floor glass balconies

I saw that on FOX. No way am I looking down, I don't care if the floors support 5 tons.

535 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:56:06pm

ATM Vendor Halts Researcher’s Talk on Vulnerability

Barnaby Jack, a researcher with Juniper Networks, was to present a demonstration showing how he could “jackpot” a popular ATM brand by exploiting a vulnerability in its software.

Jack was scheduled to present his talk at the upcoming Black Hat security conference being held in Las Vegas at the end of July.

But on Monday evening, his employer released a statement saying it was canceling the talk due to the vendor’s intervention.

. . .

In the description of his talk on the conference web site, Jack wrote that, “The most prevalent attacks on Automated Teller Machines typically involve the use of card skimmers, or the physical theft of the machines themselves. Rarely do we see any targeted attacks on the underlying software. This presentation will retrace the steps I took to interface with, analyze, and find a vulnerability in a line of popular new model ATM’s. The presentation will explore both local and remote attack vectors, and finish with a live demonstration of an attack on an unmodified, stock ATM.”

Jack did not disclose the ATM brand or discuss whether the vulnerability was found in the ATM’s own software or in its underlying operating system. Diebold ATMs, one of the most popular brands, runs on a Windows operating system, as do some other brands of ATMs.

/with Bill Gates and crew protecting our ATMs with Windows, just thank God your bank accounts are insured by the FDIC up to $250,000

536 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:56:17pm

re: #519 EmmmieG

Never mind me. I'll just stand in the corner and quietly hyperventilate.

Just looking at those photos made my palms perspire.

537 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:56:36pm

re: #514 MandyManners

the government can’t compile databases on gun owners under federal law.

How much you wanna' bet that'll change?

I am not a betting man, normally, but in this instance I would say this is even odds on.

/ just my 2 pence

538 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:56:47pm

re: #536 reine.de.tout

Just looking at those photos made my palms perspire.

LOL. Damn, that's true.

539 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:56:58pm

re: #519 EmmmieG

Never mind me. I'll just stand in the corner and quietly hyperventilate.

I'll join you. Got a paper bag?

540 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:57:03pm

re: #527 pink freud

Hi *Reenee*! ;-)

Howdy, Pinkie! Hope you had a good day today.

:-)

541 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:57:09pm
542 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:58:14pm

re: #539 Alouette

I'll join you. Got a paper bag?

Most of those photos had kids out there, not adults.
Kids aren't afraid of anything.

543 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:58:26pm

Beached cow creates bureaucratic confusion
Published: July 1, 2009 at 12:40 PM

A dead brown cow found washed up on the shore of Canada's Vancouver Island created a two-day bureaucratic impasse over whose responsibility it was to remove.

The cow city workers dubbed "Cuddles" was reported to the city of Victoria during the weekend and staff immediately ran into trouble trying to arrange for its disposal, spokeswoman Katie Josephson told the Victoria Times-Colonist.

"Apparently a cow is a special animal," she said.

544 Gearhead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 7:59:18pm

re: #517 srb1976

Better half pressed right up against it...I was like 5 feet back...Oh hell no, I'm not getting any closer....but better half even rode the free fall ride on top of that building.....not brave enough for that either

I used to be pretty badly acrophobic as a kid, but I think I could enjoy the that today. When it comes to roller coasters, freefall rides, turbulence, high gas prices - not my cup of tea.

545 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:00:02pm
546 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:00:23pm

re: #543 FurryOldGuyJeans

Beached cow creates bureaucratic confusion
Published: July 1, 2009 at 12:40 PM

The classic, but ever popular...

Exploding Whale.

547 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:00:34pm

re: #543 FurryOldGuyJeans

Beached cow creates bureaucratic confusion
Published: July 1, 2009 at 12:40 PM

A dead brown cow found washed up on the shore of Canada's Vancouver Island created a two-day bureaucratic impasse over whose responsibility it was to remove.

somewhere, a brown chicken is crying.

548 itellu3times  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:00:44pm

re: #42 brookly red

/but on the other hand "Senator Franken", hmmmmm. Whats up with that?

Stan said run.

549 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:01:17pm

re: #540 reine.de.tout

I did indeed, thank you for checking. :-)

550 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:01:36pm

re: #543 FurryOldGuyJeans

Beached cow creates bureaucratic confusion
Published: July 1, 2009 at 12:40 PM

Fitting. 2 days and thousands of dollars later the trucked the cow 700 miles "for burial in Calgary."

/Moonbats and bureaucrats.

551 Gearhead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:01:57pm

re: #535 Killian Bundy

ATM Vendor Halts Researcher’s Talk on Vulnerability

/with Bill Gates and crew protecting our ATMs with Windows, just thank God your bank accounts are insured by the FDIC up to $250,000

3 words: proprietary operating system. Why in hell would anyone design an ATM based on an OS that is being hammered on by untold numbers of hackers?

552 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:02:05pm

Burke's Peerage becomes gender neutral
Published: July 1, 2009 at 2:53 PM

Burke's Peerage and Gentry, the definitive guide to British toffs, has decided to move with the times, listing children by birth order without regard to gender.

The publication also plans to list children born, as it were, on the wrong side of the blanket to parents who have not married, The Times of London reports.

Burke's Royal Families of Europe will be the first publication to reflect the new policy later this year. While changes will be made for new publications going forward, updating the entries in the huge data base, which has been accumulating since 1826, will be the work of many years.

553 jaunte  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:02:08pm

re: #536 reine.de.tout

Just looking at those photos made my palms perspire.

Last (first) time I visited the Sears Tower observation deck, it was a very windy day, and the whole thing was moving around like a raft in high surf. I don't think I want to walk through the wall to see straight down, thanks.

554 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:02:13pm

re: #550 Gus 802

Fitting. 2 days and thousands of dollars later the they trucked the cow 700 miles "for burial in Calgary."

/Moonbats and bureaucrats.

Oops.

555 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:04:23pm

re: #550 Gus 802

Fitting. 2 days and thousands of dollars later the trucked the cow 700 miles "for burial in Calgary."

/Moonbats and bureaucrats.

Same thing would have happened if the cow had washed up on a beach in WA state, especially if it was in or near Seattle.

Seattle, moonbat north

556 Gearhead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:04:36pm

re: #514 MandyManners

the government can’t compile databases on gun owners under federal law.

How much you wanna' bet that'll change?

I'm sure it's at least as immovable as Obama's promise not to raise the capital gains tax.

/

557 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:04:53pm

I think we have finally discovered a way to intimidate Iron Fist!

Vertigo!

spinning spinning spinning

558 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:05:36pm
559 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:06:15pm

re: #555 FurryOldGuyJeans

Same thing would have happened if the cow had washed up on a beach in WA state, especially if it was in or near Seattle.

Seattle, moonbat north

Or Portland, OR if it made it's way up the river. They even gave the carcass the name "Cuddles."

/Sheesh.

560 Lincolntf  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:06:32pm

Heh.
I just went to look for a Google reference to the Boy George concert outside of which I was nearly knifed, and all I got was a couple thousand links to the fact that Bruce Willis was born in the town I was based in. Didn't know that.

Anyone have any interest in the crazy things that old school German Princes used to do?
If so, this Church carved out of a mountain (purportedly built as a kind of penance by a Prince who threw his wife off the cliff) should please you.

Great place to visit, you don't want to live there

561 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:07:23pm
562 John Neverbend  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:07:53pm

re: #543 FurryOldGuyJeans

Beached cow creates bureaucratic confusion
Published: July 1, 2009 at 12:40 PM

There's definitely something odd going on in Canada. I wonder if this is related:

Canadian flotsam

563 legalpad  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:09:13pm

re: #558 Iron Fist

Ahh! It's all conditioning Iron Fist. A few weeks in Airborne training camp and you would understand. We can move vertically.

564 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:09:39pm
565 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:09:40pm

re: #555 FurryOldGuyJeans

Same thing would have happened if the cow had washed up on a beach in WA state, especially if it was in or near Seattle.

Seattle, moonbat north

Here's another report which comes with a "hurl warning":

“Cuddles,” as she was called by city workers, was gently scooped up with a bucket-excavator, covered with a blue nylon tarp and carried up the incline of a hard-pack pathway to a waiting two-tonne flat-deck city truck.

She went without incident, said excavator-operator Bradley Dingee who has moved cows and other livestock for burial at farms before, but never one on a beach.

[Link: www.vancouversun.com...]

I wonder when the memorial service is planned.

//

566 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:10:27pm

re: #563 legalpad

Ahh! It's all conditioning Iron Fist. A few weeks in Airborne training camp and you would understand. We can move vertically.

No, some people can move vertically....I'm so scared of heights that I didn't even grow tall....

567 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:10:49pm

re: #564 Sharmuta

Idiocy

Democrat

FTFY

=]

568 legalpad  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:11:00pm

re: #564 Sharmuta

Idiocy

So is this guy going to tell some general that he "worked hard" to "earn" the title of Senator?

569 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:11:10pm

re: #562 John Neverbend

There's definitely something odd going on in Canada. I wonder if this is related:

Canadian flotsam

IIRC the human body parts were coming from some crazy woman's(?) pig farm where she was murdering transients and feeding them to her pigs. Rain storms would wash parts off the farm into local streams which led to the ocean.

570 pat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:11:52pm

Juan Williams is kicking Obama and his toady around the fucking block!

571 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:12:28pm
572 Gearhead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:12:28pm

re: #564 Sharmuta

Idiocy

Bleah. There should be an "inner thigh exposure limit" for Federal office.

573 pat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:12:50pm

re: #569 FurryOldGuyJeans

There is a lot of serious evil in parts of Canada. Regularly swept under the rug.

574 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:12:54pm

re: #568 legalpad

So is this guy going to tell some general that he "worked hard" to "earn" the title of Senator?

He did work hard. Do you have any idea how rigorous it is to still be working on toilet training at his age?

575 jaunte  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:13:04pm

re: #570 pat

Which toady?

576 John Neverbend  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:13:38pm

re: #565 Gus 802

[Link: www.vancouversun.com...]

I wonder when the memorial service is planned.

//

Why Calgary? Is it out of spite, or do they plan to bring Cuddles back to life in time for the next stampede starting July 3?

577 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:13:44pm

re: #575 jaunte

Which toady?

Obama "Spokesweasel" Bill Burton.

578 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:13:47pm

re: #569 FurryOldGuyJeans

IIRC the human body parts were coming from some crazy woman's(?) pig farm where she was murdering transients and feeding them to her pigs. Rain storms would wash parts off the farm into local streams which led to the ocean.

Robert Picton, pig farmer, serial murderer.

The feet have another source.

579 pat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:13:51pm

Gabby Gibbs sidekick. Assistant press secretary.

580 solomonpanting  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:14:17pm

Amnesty accuses Israel of using human shields in Gaza

It could not support Israeli claims that Hamas used human shields...
However, the report did point out that Hamas and other armed groups fired hundreds of rockets into southern Israel.

I'm surprised AI admitted the rockets were fired by Hamas.

581 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:14:37pm

re: #561 Iron Fist

Try this again, you will especially like the "tawdry redhead"
Link

582 mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:15:17pm
Asked if he has plans to run for public office, he replied, “I hope not. You know, I talked to God about that and he was like, ‘No.’”

He was like, 'No'"? Thats it? Nothing about cubits?

583 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:15:30pm

Definitely old news, but the "revelation" and "speaking to G.d" makes this somewhat related to the topic:

John Glenn Gets Slugged

On October 25, 1989 Senator John Glenn, D-Ohio was taping a television interview following a tree-planting ceremony at the Smithsonian Institution. Suddenly, a well-dressed man walked up and punched the Senator square on the jaw. The assailant, Michael John Breen, 31, was promptly arrested after being detained by a stunned Glenn. Breen later told authorities that in recent months he had dreams revealing future events, and that he only hit Glenn to gain attention for his revelations. Among these revelations was a vision of a massive earthquake in California which the government knew about but refused to warn residents of.

An affidavit filed in U.S. District Court said Breen told officials that he was "guided" by God to try to alert Vice President Quayle about the coming events during a visit to the Capitol.

584 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:15:37pm

re: #565 Gus 802

When I was small, we used to visit my great-grandmother on her farm. We would always stop and see "Uncle" Leo (actually my Dad's cousin). Leo ran some cattle, and once one had apparently gotten out and died in a shallow ditch on a dirt road (tractor path). We all went to see (of course). The cow had bloated, so Leo backed off a couple of hundred feet, took his .30-.30 out of the truck, and gently shot the carcass to explode it. Then he caringly drove back out with a backhoe and buried the bits with love.

/

585 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:15:52pm

re: #576 John Neverbend

Why Calgary? Is it out of spite, or do they plan to bring Cuddles back to life in time for the next stampede starting July 3?

You would think they'd be able to incinerate the thing nearby. Nope, gotta drive it 700 miles to Calgary. It's probably the location of the Royal Canadian Cattle Disposal Facility.

///

Government, universally inefficient.

586 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:16:11pm

re: #578 jcm

Robert Picton, pig farmer, serial murderer.

The feet have another source.

So I didn't RC, fie! ;)

587 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:16:43pm

re: #568 legalpad

So is this guy going to tell some general that he "worked hard" to "earn" the title of Senator?

Nah, Franken's a guy. The General could have legally jumped the tables and kicked his ass.

/

588 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:17:26pm

re: #584 OldLineTexan

When I was small, we used to visit my great-grandmother on her farm. We would always stop and see "Uncle" Leo (actually my Dad's cousin). Leo ran some cattle, and once one had apparently gotten out and died in a shallow ditch on a dirt road (tractor path). We all went to see (of course). The cow had bloated, so Leo backed off a couple of hundred feet, took his .30-.30 out of the truck, and gently shot the carcass to explode it. Then he caringly drove back out with a backhoe and buried the bits with love.

/

Sniff. That's so sad. Reminds me of all of the carrots that are murdered every day for rabbit food.

//

Maybe the cow drowned because she thought she was a sea kiteh!

//

589 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:17:45pm

re: #585 Gus 802

You would think they'd be able to incinerate the thing nearby. Nope, gotta drive it 700 miles to Calgary. It's probably the location of the Royal Canadian Cattle Disposal Facility.

///

Government, universally inefficient.

I remember a yellow pages ad from when I was growing up, which was for a rendering company:

XXXXXXXXXXX, your friendly used cow dealer!

590 nyc redneck  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:18:25pm

re: #574 Sharmuta

He did work hard. Do you have any idea how rigorous it is to still be working on toilet training at his age?

it is sickening to think that this is what has been "elected" to the u.s. senate.
i could pick a random bum on the street who could do a better job. or point to a name in the phone book.
i actually think this fcking sob could be worse than o.

591 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:18:36pm

re: #547 SasquatchOnSteroids

somewhere, a brown chicken is crying.

Alright, can somebody please explain the "brown chicken brown cow" thing? I just don't get it. It's not even funny. What is the punch line? Is it something like "No soap radio"?

I looked it up on Google, something about the background music in 70's porno films. So it's "No soap radio" for those of us who never saw a 70's porno.

592 legalpad  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:18:38pm

re: #566 srb1976

No, some people can move vertically....I'm so scared of heights that I didn't even grow tall....

All you need is hope and trust and a little Pixie dust!

593 John Neverbend  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:18:40pm

re: #583 FurryOldGuyJeans

Definitely old news, but the "revelation" and "speaking to G.d" makes this somewhat related to the topic:

John Glenn Gets Slugged

Something similar happens at the start of that rather peculiar book, the HAB theory, when a man pretends to shoot the President to draw attention to his cock-eyed theory of global cataclysm?

594 Henchman Ghazi-808  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:19:14pm
595 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:19:19pm
596 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:19:19pm

re: #589 FurryOldGuyJeans

Tallow and dog food! Well, maybe years ago.

I bet they're going to perform an autopsy. Just to drag it out.

597 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:20:02pm

re: #587 OldLineTexan

Nah, Franken's a guy. The General could have legally jumped the tables and kicked his assDIAPER.

/


* * * *

Al Franken wore diapers at the height of his TV career.

Kick Franken's DEPENDS, Mr. General Sir.

598 Gearhead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:20:27pm

re: #571 Iron Fist

Mmmmm...SQL...

I'm the 'computer guy' for my circle of friends, but the guy that I go to when I'm stumped is a database guru. I'm desperately trying to find time to learn more about database design.

599 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:20:33pm

re: #591 Alouette

Alright, can somebody please explain the "brown chicken brown cow" thing? I just don't get it. It's not even funny. What is the punch line? Is it something like "No soap radio"?

I looked it up on Google, something about the background music in 70's porno films. So it's "No soap radio" for those of us who never saw a 70's porno.

I think it is related to the Cow and Chicken cartoon, but I could be mistaken.

600 jcm  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:20:49pm

re: #586 FurryOldGuyJeans

So I didn't RC, fie! ;)

Close!

The number of missing boats, airplanes and just plain missing people could easily account for the feet.

601 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:21:31pm

re: #590 nyc redneck

You have to admit, though, redneck ...he will fit right in with all that other slime in washington ......obama, reid, pelosi, schumer, fwanks, boxer ...the bunch. Like he's custom made to fit in with that bunch.

602 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:21:44pm

re: #599 FurryOldGuyJeans

I think it is related to the Cow and Chicken cartoon, but I could be mistaken.

100 years from now.

"Canada declares personhood for cows and worthy of human rights."

//

603 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:21:51pm

re: #600 jcm

Close!

The number of missing boats, airplanes and just plain missing people could easily account for the feet.

teh sea kittehs kant eated feets wif shooz on

so taek off ur shooz wen u swim, k?

604 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:22:15pm

re: #595 Iron Fist

The blond's not bad, either, though I gather she winds up snuffing herself sometime during the flick.

The only Alfred Hichcock movie I can recall seeing is North By Northwest, and I was too young to remember much of it.

Pscycho? Sort of a cultural touchstone when it comes to scary. A must see. Still holds up.

605 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:22:25pm

re: #602 Gus 802

100 years from now.

"Canada declares personhood for cows and worthy of human rights."

//

Are you so sure it is going to take a full 100 years? ;)

606 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:22:42pm

Canada could have shipped that cow to the Norks.

/green solutions free as always

607 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:22:55pm

re: #605 FurryOldGuyJeans

Are you so sure it is going to take a full 100 years? ;)

I had a moment of optimism.

//

608 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:24:06pm

re: #606 OldLineTexan

Canada could have shipped that cow to the Norks.

/green solutions free as always

And by the time it got there it would have been properly ripe and "aged".

609 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:24:26pm

re: #590 nyc redneck

it is sickening to think that this is what has been "elected" to the u.s. senate.
i could pick a random bum on the street who could do a better job. or point to a name in the phone book.
i actually think this fcking sob could be worse than o.

All I can think is the Senate now stands at 100 seated idiots.

610 itellu3times  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:24:38pm

re: #571 Iron Fist

Speed of delivery to market. It takes time to write your own OS. Worse, it takes coders who actually can write an OS. Those aren't people that are exactly everywhere. I've written a UNIX shell, but an OS is a whole different ballgame. I wouldn't know where to start. The kernal, I suppose, but how do I write that?

OTOH, I can write windows apps. I can do it in several programming languages depending on the needs of the job. Give me a SQL Server backend, and get out of my way. I've probably written nearly a million lines of SQL code in my career.

My brother!

Been doing mostly SQL Server for about ten years now ...

611 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:24:54pm

re: #597 alegrias

* * * *

Al Franken wore diapers at the height of his TV career.

Kick Franken's DEPENDS, Mr. General Sir.

Luvs, actually.

612 BatGuano  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:25:01pm

re: #595 Iron Fist

The blond's not bad, either, though I gather she winds up snuffing herself sometime during the flick.

The only Alfred Hichcock movie I can recall seeing is North By Northwest, and I was too young to remember much of it.

Do yourself a favor. More Hitchcock! :)

613 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:25:05pm

re: #591 Alouette

Alright, can somebody please explain the "brown chicken brown cow" thing? I just don't get it. It's not even funny. What is the punch line? Is it something like "No soap radio"?

I looked it up on Google, something about the background music in 70's porno films. So it's "No soap radio" for those of us who never saw a 70's porno.

the words, when said out loud sound similar to the music you think of in your head when you think of 70's porn....( I had to have it explained to me once too)....

614 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:25:06pm

Speaking of God in politics,

"Hallelujah" was what the
Black Women's Ecumenical Choir of Ebenezer Baptist Church sang tonight

at the swearing in ceremony of two (2) GOP council members in this (until tonight) all democrat controlled town of Alexandria, VA.

The women all had big red crosses on their black robes.

Praise the Lord!
God Didn't Say, Don't
He said "Just Win It"

And two (2) GOP people won.

615 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:25:10pm

re: #608 FurryOldGuyJeans

And by the time it got there it would have been properly ripe and "aged".

The Norks could probably help out with the sea foot problem, too.

/

616 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:25:15pm

re: #606 OldLineTexan

Canada could have shipped that cow to the Norks.

/green solutions free as always

At least it didn't work its way down to Mexico to be re-introduced into the human food chain.

//

617 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:25:21pm

re: #610 itellu3times

My brother!

Been doing mostly SQL Server for about ten years now ...

You frakkin' geeks! ;)

618 mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:25:21pm

re: #583 FurryOldGuyJeans

Kind of reminds me of the "Whats the frequency Kenneth!" thing. Except that guy just wanted to smack down Dan Rather and book. He wasn't hawking anything.

619 John Neverbend  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:25:26pm

re: #605 FurryOldGuyJeans

Are you so sure it is going to take a full 100 years? ;)

I thought that's why they set up the various Canadian Human Rights Commissions?

620 ernieg  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:25:57pm

re: #48 Sharmuta

Dear God,

Could you please chat with Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, and Ron Paul and tell them it's time to retire?

Thanks and Bless Yourself, ~Sharmuta

From your keyboard to God's monitor.

621 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:26:05pm
622 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:26:30pm

re: #619 John Neverbend

I thought that's why they set up the various Canadian Human Rights Commissions?

Does this mean we might be guilty of the international crime of anti-Bovine hate speech?

//

623 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:27:06pm

re: #611 MandyManners

Luvs, actually.

* * * *
That was then! You funny.

624 Lincolntf  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:27:23pm

If Joe the Plumber had said that he heard from "Allah" rather than "God", he'd already have a talk show on MSNBC.
If not a Cabinet post.

625 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:28:27pm

At first I thought this was an Onion parody, but noooooooo!

Maine Dems circle GOP contender over stylized 'O'
Jul. 1, 2009 12:09 PM
Associated Press

AUGUSTA, Maine - O, boy.

The executive director of the Democratic Party in Maine is accusing a Republican who's considering a run for governor of stealing the stylized "O" from President Barack Obama's Web site.

626 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:29:37pm
627 John Neverbend  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:29:39pm

re: #622 Gus 802

Does this mean we might be guilty of the international crime of anti-Bovine hate speech?

//

Absolutely. That's why Ezra Levant was hauled up in front of the Calgary HRC, for arguing with a man who was full of bull.

628 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:29:42pm

re: #621 Iron Fist

Jeebus.

ERP - data comes out unexpectedly
SQL - tells on other databases

Rejected names:

LIAR - Linux Indexing Auto-Regression
FAKE - Frontloaded Automatic Keyword Enumeration
DEM - Data Emergency Management

629 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:30:23pm

re: #625 FurryOldGuyJeans

At first I thought this was an Onion parody, but noooooooo!

Maine Dems circle GOP contender over stylized 'O'
Jul. 1, 2009 12:09 PM
Associated Press

Here it is:

[Link: www.lesotten.com...]

/Note to Maine Democrats: get a life.

630 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:30:28pm

re: #611 MandyManners

Luvs, actually.

Now Frankin really looks like a Democrat in that pic!

631 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:30:55pm

re: #624 Lincolntf

If Joe the Plumber had said that he heard from "Allah" rather than "God", he'd already have a talk show on MSNBC.
If not a Cabinet post.

* * * **

Yes, that's hipper & plays well with Mullahcracies.

Did you hear Michael Jackson's brother commend his brother to Allah?
I forget which brother of his is a moslem.
Or did I miss Michael's conversion to islam?

632 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:31:08pm

re: #627 John Neverbend

Absolutely. That's why Ezra Levant was hauled up in front of the Calgary HRC, for arguing with a man who was full of bull.

Justice has been served!

//HRCs, America's future.

633 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:31:28pm
634 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:31:37pm

re: #629 Gus 802

Here it is:

[Link: www.lesotten.com...]

/Note to Maine Democrats: get a life.

Thanks for the site link!

635 Lincolntf  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:31:40pm

re: #625 FurryOldGuyJeans

They've already stolen and altered the English language, why shouldn't they own the alphabet, too?

Can't wait for the (literal) "O" tax to kick in.

636 Macker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:32:00pm

re: #1 albusteve

what's a cubit?

You mean you don't know?

637 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:32:08pm

re: #632 Gus 802

Justice has been served!

//HRCs, America's future.

With or without barbecue sauce?

(A real controversy, in some parts.)

638 mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:32:19pm

re: #606 OldLineTexan

Canada could have shipped that cow to the Norks.

/green solutions free as always

I like the story of the German guy who sent some prized giant bunnies to the Norks so they could breed them for food.

And then Dear Leader proceeded to eat them.

His rabbits can yield up to 7kg (15Ib) of meat each. It had been unclear, however, given their voracious appetite for carrots, potatoes and other top quality vegetables, how they could actually alleviate the food shortages in North Korea rather than actually adding to them. ...

“It’s an assumption, not an assertion,” Mr Szmolinsky said. “But I don’t think the animals are alive anymore, I think they’ve been eaten.”

He added: “North Korea won’t be getting any more rabbits from me, they don’t even need to bother asking.

639 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:33:07pm

re: #634 FurryOldGuyJeans

Thanks for the site link!

Note the clever O emblem for Otten...

640 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:33:18pm

re: #633 Sharmuta

Jewish kitteh

ROFL!

641 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:33:23pm

re: #637 EmmmieG

With or without barbecue sauce?

(A real controversy, in some parts.)

You're putting barbecue sauce on Hillary Rodham Clinton?

/

642 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:33:38pm

Utah bar crawl to mark end of liquor restrictions
Jul. 1, 2009 02:08 PM
Associated Press

SALT LAKE CITY - Bartenders in Utah threw open their doors Wednesday as the state ditched a 40-year-old requirement that customers fill out an application, pay a fee and become a member of a private club before setting foot in a bar.

"It's 40 years of oppression come to an end," said Dave Morris, owner of the bar Piper Down in Salt Lake City. "There's this national perception that we don't have bars here, so hopefully this gets out there that we're open for business."

The new rules are an effort to boost the state's $7 billion-a-year tourism industry and make the state appear a little less quirky to outsiders.

643 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:34:03pm

re: #625 FurryOldGuyJeans

At first I thought this was an Onion parody, but noooooooo!

Maine Dems circle GOP contender over stylized 'O'
Jul. 1, 2009 12:09 PM
Associated Press

You can't steal a fucking letter.

644 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:34:22pm

re: #634 FurryOldGuyJeans

Thanks for the site link!

YW. It's ironic you know. Right before Obama took office he was running around with a literal parody of the official symbol of the POTUS on the podium. So now every round red, white and blue symbol is under ownership of Obama? Gee, I thought he was a public entity?

645 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:34:30pm

re: #611 MandyManners

Luvs, actually.

The facade of respectability is officially down. Senator Franken. Welcome him to your hall of wisdom oh Senatorial noblemen.
Coleman would have run a better campaign had he simply posted this picture on every billboard in the State.

646 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:34:50pm

re: #641 OldLineTexan

You're putting barbecue sauce on Hillary Rodham Clinton?

/

No, on the bull that the Calgary Human Rights Commission was serving up.

Only way it could ever go down...

647 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:35:05pm

OMG,

Bernard Goldberg says salacious Mark Sanford better explain where he was the night Michael Jackson died....

Fox News

648 Sharmuta  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:35:34pm

re: #611 MandyManners

Luvs, actually.

Did you see my #564?

649 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:35:35pm

re: #509 reine.de.tout

You know, it gets warm on those planes. Either that, or he wanted to get in touch with himself.

650 nyc redneck  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:35:42pm

re: #601 pink freud

You have to admit, though, redneck ...he will fit right in with all that other slime in washington ......obama, reid, pelosi, schumer, fwanks, boxer ...the bunch. Like he's custom made to fit in with that bunch.

the only hope i have is that he scares the crap out of citizens of this country and therefore represents a tipping point for sanity. he is going to be an obnoxious idiot fueled in such a disgusting way by his own sense of celebrity, that i'm thinking he will even alienate the repugnant bastards libs who are there.
i'm not sure they are that excited abt, him. i think they are uncomfortable w/ the prospect of him plopping in and spreading out.
he's airhead america. working his elbows, ready to change the world.
fcking idiot.

651 ernieg  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:35:49pm

re: #645 The Shadow Do

The facade of respectability is officially down. Senator Franken. Welcome him to your hall of wisdom oh Senatorial noblemen.
Coleman would have run a better campaign had he simply posted this picture on every billboard in the State.

However good his campaign might have been, the fix was still in.

652 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:35:57pm

re: #643 MandyManners

You can't steal a fucking letter.

* * * *
All your Os belong to us!
All your 0s belong to us!

653 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:36:03pm

re: #641 OldLineTexan

You're putting barbecue sauce on Hillary Rodham Clinton?

/

You know I just noticed that. HRC for Human Rights Commission and HRC for Hillary Rodham Clinton.

654 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:36:07pm

re: #645 The Shadow Do

The facade of respectability is officially down. Senator Franken. Welcome him to your hall of wisdom oh Senatorial noblemen.
Coleman would have run a better campaign had he simply posted this picture on every billboard in the State.

Doesn't Illinois have one that is not exactly...senatorial...as well?

The check is in the mail, or the freezer...or...can't we just get rid of them all and start over?

655 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:37:02pm

re: #647 alegrias

OMG,

Bernard Goldberg says salacious Mark Sanford better explain where he was the night Michael Jackson died....

Fox News

Michael Jackson's dead?

656 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:37:05pm

re: #643 MandyManners

You can't steal a fucking letter.

Tell that to the Clinton staffers that stole the computer keyboard Ws when they looted the WH on 2001.

657 Gearhead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:37:09pm

re: #621 Iron Fist

It is fun, and really what I'm best at. I haven't worked in it in years, but I did an ERP project once that I built from the ground up. SQL Server backend with stored procedures and triggers and functions (those were new in SQL Server 2000) Front End in a mix of HTML, Javascript, and VB. Middle tier in VB calling all those lovely stored procedures. It took me over eighteen months and once it was in production for a few years they had found only two bugs. When the database got big, two of the reports took a long time to run. They ran, and got the correct numbers. They were just slow.

Very cool. There are a few things at work that involve a little database I built, but I'd really like to be able to do the inputs and reporting in a web browser. It would save a lot of time.

658 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:37:21pm

re: #647 alegrias

Well, it's Greek to me./

659 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:37:27pm

re: #590 nyc redneck

it is sickening to think that this is what has been "elected" to the u.s. senate.
i could pick a random bum on the street who could do a better job. or point to a name in the phone book.
i actually think this fcking sob could be worse than o.

I'm not sure he's smart enough to do much damage.

660 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:37:35pm

re: #448 jcm

Who's acrophobic?

Get a whole new view of Chicago from Sears Tower on The Ledge

BTW...before I say good-night...

SEARS FUCKIN' ROCKS!

661 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:37:38pm

re: #645 The Shadow Do

The facade of respectability is officially down. Senator Franken. Welcome him to your hall of wisdom oh Senatorial noblemen.
Coleman would have run a better campaign had he simply posted this picture on every billboard in the State.

* * * *
Blame the 3rd party Dave Barker who took 8% of the vote as the third party candidate against Coleman and Franken.

Cautionary tale to all who keep wanting 3rd party candidates.

Hope they're F'n happy stuffing Franken down America's throat.

662 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:38:04pm

re: #631 alegrias

I heard that.

Yes, you missed it.

663 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:38:19pm

re: #656 FurryOldGuyJeans

Tell that to the Clinton staffers that stole the computer keyboard Ws when they looted the WH on 2001.

Half of those staffers are back in the White House.

664 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:38:28pm

re: #661 alegrias

They're very happy.

665 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:38:30pm

re: #496 razorbacker

My paternal grandfather was an experienced fellow in the ways of ne'er-do-wells and miscreants of all types, having been one lifelong, himself.

His advice on knifefighting was simple.

"Don't fight with knives. You're likely to get cut up."

My advice for a knife-fight? Bring a gun.

666 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:38:58pm

re: #663 Gus 802

Half of those staffers are back in the White House.

Frakkin' unpleasant thought. I keel you! ;)

667 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:39:02pm

re: #648 Sharmuta

Did you see my #564?

I just did. I love the Pooh pic.

668 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:39:17pm

re: #654 EmmmieG

Doesn't Illinois have one that is not exactly...senatorial...as well?

The check is in the mail, or the freezer...or...can't we just get rid of them all and start over?

* * * *
We have to start electing better folks in our own city council, county, state.

669 Lincolntf  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:39:21pm

re: #665 calcajun

I second that.

670 ernieg  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:39:26pm

re: #659 reine.de.tout

I'm not sure he's smart enough to do much damage.

Yes, but what about his handlers, the guys behind the curtain that we're supposed to ignore?

671 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:39:27pm

re: #666 FurryOldGuyJeans

Frakkin' unpleasant thought. I keel you! ;)

Isn't it? Not only are they back but they got promotions.

//I keel myself!

//

672 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:39:29pm

re: #652 alegrias

* * * *
All your Os belong to us!
All your 0s belong to us!

FCBBHO.

673 nyc redneck  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:39:34pm

re: #659 reine.de.tout

I'm not sure he's smart enough to do much damage.

no he's not smart enough but he is zealous enough and obnoxious enough.

674 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:39:58pm

re: #655 sngnsgt

Michael Jackson's dead?

* * * *
He's with Allah.

675 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:40:11pm

Must leave office now and go home to the bosom of my family....

on second thought.

Nope--the Scotch is at the house. Gotta go home now!

676 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:40:23pm

re: #656 FurryOldGuyJeans

Tell that to the Clinton staffers that stole the computer keyboard Ws when they looted the WH on 2001.

I remember that. Buncha' juvenile delinquents.

677 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:41:20pm

re: #674 alegrias

* * * *
He's with Allah.

Allah: One virgin down, need seventy-one more.

678 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:42:27pm

re: #677 calcajun

Allah: One virgin down, need seventy-one more.

/Doh!

=]

679 itellu3times  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:42:47pm

re: #628 OldLineTexan

Jeebus.

ERP - data comes out unexpectedly
SQL - tells on other databases

Rejected names:

LIAR - Linux Indexing Auto-Regression
FAKE - Frontloaded Automatic Keyword Enumeration
DEM - Data Emergency Management

Hey I worked on the Automobile Insurance Determination System before it was fashionable.

680 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:43:00pm

re: #662 pink freud

I heard that.

Yes, you missed it.

* * * *
Hahahah

The Way You Mecca Me Feel.

....thanks for the link to Mikaeel's moslem conversion story last November 2008.

681 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:43:03pm

I just know you're sitting there laughing, Alegrias. :-)

"we ate a bunch of brownies. we're dying"

682 razorbacker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:43:41pm

You GOPers are just jealous of the Democrats' 'big tent'. You have no clue. No way of competing in the marketplace of ideas with the wide range of Democrat ideas.

How in the world can you hope to compete with a party so all-inclusive as to range the gamut from adult diaper wearers to KKK wizards?

Not to mention that Kennedy has the boozer demographic pretty well sewn up.

And Boxer working the botox crowd.

Something for everyone. That's what the Democrats stand for.

Republicans. What you got? That tired old 'America' thing. So yesterday's news.

683 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:43:44pm

re: #654 EmmmieG

Doesn't Illinois have one that is not exactly...senatorial...as well?

The check is in the mail, or the freezer...or...can't we just get rid of them all and start over?

You just gotta' believe that Adams, Jefferson et all reincarnate, would be absolutely dumbfounded at what they could observe in the Senate chambers today, unless they had a sense of humor of course.

As for throwin' em' all out...there seems to be a limitless supply of crooks and liars lined up for any potential openings. But the threat of replacing one crook with another crook does seem to carry some weight.

684 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:43:46pm

re: #631 alegrias

Mikaeel Jackson?

685 Macker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:44:02pm

re: #674 alegrias

* * * *
He's with Allah.

And last I recall, Allah is in Hell.

686 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:44:03pm

re: #655 sngnsgt

Michael Jackson's dead?


Says who?

687 John Neverbend  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:44:33pm

Good night lizardim.

"And my unfettered soul
wishes to soar up freely
into night's magic sphere
to live there deeply and thousandfold."

From "Going to sleep" by Hermann Hesse.

688 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:44:47pm

re: #662 pink freud

I heard that.

Yes, you missed it.

He converted, and began wearing the woman's burqa.
fitting.

689 Gearhead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:44:59pm

re: #655 sngnsgt

Michael Jackson's dead?

The Big Sleepover

690 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:45:26pm

re: #681 pink freud

I just know you're sitting there laughing, Alegrias. :-)

"we ate a bunch of brownies. we're dying"

* * * **
I don't get the joke! Really!

691 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:45:32pm

re: #689 Gearhead

The Big Sleepover

*groan*

692 Gearhead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:45:58pm

re: #691 pink freud

*groan*

You're welcome.

693 Racer X  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:47:02pm

Paddy was driving down the street in a sweat because he had an important meeting and couldn't find a parking place.
Looking up toward heaven, he said; "Lord, take pity on me. If you find me a parking place I will go to Mass every Sunday for the rest of my life and give up beer."

Miraculously, a parking place appeared.
Paddy looked up again and said; "Never mind. I found one."

694 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:47:20pm

re: #690 alegrias

* * * **
I don't get the joke! Really!

Oh! I guess you were looking at the link I sent and you missed the clip on Fox ......they were running the audio of the 911 call where the guy called in and asked for help, said he and his wife were dying from marijuana, they'd eaten brownies. "We're dying, nope, I know we're dying. Things are moving really, really slow."

695 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:47:24pm

re: #676 MandyManners

I remember that. Buncha' juvenile delinquents.

And as Gus as so eloquently said, THEY'RE BACK! At least a bunch of 'em.

*GAG*

696 Macker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:48:03pm

re: #694 pink freud

Wow man. Cosmic!

/snicker

697 swamprat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:48:35pm

re: #691 pink freud

The Big Sleepover

*groan*

My name is Jackson. Mike Jackson. I carry a glove.

698 Gus  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:48:49pm

re: #695 FurryOldGuyJeans

And as Gus as so eloquently said, THEY'RE BACK! At least a bunch of 'em.

*GAG*

Can I sue the White House for emotional distress?

//////

699 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:49:05pm

re: #681 pink freud

LOL! I just watched that, too freakin funny.

700 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:49:53pm

re: #693 Racer X

Paddy was driving down the street in a sweat because he had an important meeting and couldn't find a parking place.
Looking up toward heaven, he said; "Lord, take pity on me. If you find me a parking place I will go to Mass every Sunday for the rest of my life and give up beer."

Miraculously, a parking place appeared.
Paddy looked up again and said; "Never mind. I found one."

OMG, I laughed so hard at this.
I believe I just may have done that very thing a time or two in my life.

701 mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:50:48pm

Al Franken, US Senator.

This is Exhibit A why the the 17th Amendment should be repealed and the election of Senators should be returned to the State Legislatures. The reason the 17th amendment was needed at the time was that the State elections turned into a circus of corruption. But the way we do things now has replaced and even made worse the corruption. This is the important part of the story why the 17th Amendment was needed.

After the turn of the century, momentum for reform grew rapidly. William Randolph Hearst expanded his publishing empire with Cosmopolitan, and championed the cause of direct election with muckraking articles and strong advocacy of reform. Hearst hired a veteran reporter, David Graham Phillips, who wrote scathing pieces on senators, portraying them as pawns of industrialists and financiers. The pieces became a series titled "The Treason of the Senate," which appeared in several monthly issues of the magazine in 1906. These articles galvanized the public into maintaining pressure on the Senate for reform.

And now with public elections of US Senators we have a body of career politicians who don't care one bit about the concept of States rights or Federalism, to them its all about Party politics and how they can use their seat to advance their own careers and their National fundraising efforts.

I think the State legislatures could do a better job these days than the general public at selecting a Senator to represent the State. Yes it would still be about Party politics, but the bribery and corruption would be easier to police now than it would have been 100 years ago.

The 17th Amendment was about gerryrigging the machine instead of fixing it. And it is the only reason we have an ass clown like Al Franken in the Senate. GROI.

702 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:52:00pm

re: #700 reine.de.tout

OMG, I laughed so hard at this.
I believe I just may have done that very thing a time or two in my life.

LOL! :-)

703 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:53:03pm
704 itellu3times  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:53:08pm

re: #701 mich-again

El Updingo Grande!

705 Macker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:54:36pm

re: #701 mich-again

10,000 updings!

706 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:54:56pm

I have a prediction:

President Barack Obama will send American forces to Honduras to restore former Honduran President Mel Zelaya by force, or will use American civil and military resources to support a third party invasion (by the Sandinista regime in Nicaragua) to do the same.

(For a short explanation of what's going on down there I will refer you to Neil Boortz's article on the situation.)

Some people may object to this prediction. They insist on believing that we are now living in a new age of peace, love, and happy chocolates. And that under the rule of our new political messiah a military intervention in the internal affairs of another nation is now a thing of the past. I wouldn't be surprised if those same people still believe in the Easter Bunny, Santa Claus, and Barbara Streisand.

My answer to such infantile objections is this, to the those who uphold the moral and legal primacy of the parasite, POWER IS LIFE. Thus any obstacle to absolute power is essentially seen as toxic to would-be absolute ruler.

The President of Honduras attempted to violate the Honduran Constitution and refused to obey an order of the Honduran Supreme Court. As a result he was removed from office in accordance to Honduran law. What the armed forces of Honduras did is in no way, morally or legally, distinguishable from that of a police officer or sheriff enforcing an order issued by a local judge.

Think of it as a constitutional republic in action.

But to the neolithic god-kings and their mobs of worshipers the exercise of the actual rule of law is an abomination. It sets an example to the people of other nations (and I'm looking at YOU my fellow Americans) for how to properly deal with would be dictators. To the tyrannophiles this is a crime that must be punished.

So don't be surprised if we hear that American troops are being sent to Honduras in order to "restore" democracy.

What are your questions on this block of instruction?
_

707 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:54:57pm

re: #694 pink freud

Oh! I guess you were looking at the link I sent and you missed the clip on Fox ......they were running the audio of the 911 call where the guy called in and asked for help, said he and his wife were dying from marijuana, they'd eaten brownies. "We're dying, nope, I know we're dying. Things are moving really, really slow."

* * * *
Glad the guy was smart enough to call for help after doing something stupid like ingesting non Food & Drug Administration approved hallucinogenic plant material.

I saw it but didn't get the joke--lo siento mucho!

708 Macker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:55:09pm

re: #703 Iron Fist

Are you speaking of Dick Durbin, D-al Qaeda? I think he's technically from Illinois, but I surely hope that he doesn't represent them.

And here I thought his designation was (NAZI-IL)....

709 Lincolntf  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:55:10pm

G'night all.
My little (rather dumb, but absolutely beautiful) cat has just let me know that if I sit here for another minute, she's gonna fall asleep on my lap and effectively paralyze me for hours. I'm not gonna fight her.
See ya' in the morning.

710 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:55:27pm
711 Gearhead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:56:55pm

G'night, folks.

712 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:58:39pm

re: #684 NY Nana

Mikaeel Jackson?

* * * *
Hi Nana,

Thank you for that. Mikaeel was a Jehovah's Witness before he put on the Burqa for Mohammed, and forced it on his own California-incubated test tube children.

Poor children, their lives have not been human so far. They are guinea pigs in this freakish "King Of Pop" nightmare.

713 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:59:53pm

re: #701 mich-again

Al Franken, US Senator.

This is Exhibit A why the the 17th Amendment should be repealed and the election of Senators should be returned to the State Legislatures. The reason the 17th amendment was needed at the time was that the State elections turned into a circus of corruption. But the way we do things now has replaced and even made worse the corruption. This is the important part of the story why the 17th Amendment was needed.


And now with public elections of US Senators we have a body of career politicians who don't care one bit about the concept of States rights or Federalism, to them its all about Party politics and how they can use their seat to advance their own careers and their National fundraising efforts.

I think the State legislatures could do a better job these days than the general public at selecting a Senator to represent the State. Yes it would still be about Party politics, but the bribery and corruption would be easier to police now than it would have been 100 years ago.

The 17th Amendment was about gerryrigging the machine instead of fixing it. And it is the only reason we have an ass clown like Al Franken in the Senate. GROI.

I don't think either system precludes dipshits taking office. I think I prefer the present system which brings at least some measure of direct accountability to the electorate.

Folks want their Frankens, then they get them. File under 'sad but true'.

714 BryanS  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 8:59:58pm

Joe the plummer ain't running? Praise science!

715 swamprat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:02:00pm

Maybe we need a new political system;

"Dang! I drew a month of senatorial duty. Maybe I can get excused."
or

"Mr. Clodsdale, I sentence you to 2 years of service in the mayors office!"
For mail fraud? The molester ahead of me only got six months!
"Take him away."

716 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:02:03pm

re: #710 Iron Fist

Wasn't he a cop?

It's been a while since I saw this.

717 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:02:08pm

re: #713 The Shadow Do

I don't think either system precludes dipshits taking office. I think I prefer the present system which brings at least some measure of direct accountability to the electorate.

Folks want their Frankens, then they get them. File under 'sad but true'.

* * * * *
The 3rd party candidate Dave Barker ran against Norm Coleman and Al Franken and siphoned off 8% of the vote.

Blame the silly third party spoiler. I think I heard today that this same 3rd party idiot Dave Barker also spoiled the election that got Minnesota Jessie Ventura elected.

718 mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:02:13pm

re: #704 itellu3times

re: #705 Macker

Thanks. I've been beating that drum for a while here. Al Gore, John Kerry, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden, John McCain, Hillary Clinton, Bob Dole... They all used their Senate seat to launch presidential campaigns. Thats not what the Senate was supposed to be about. They were intended to be removed from day to day politics. Now they are in to the tippy toes.

719 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:03:08pm

Well, seeing as how it's slow . . . I guess it's time for me to go watch "Dog the Bounty Hunter".

I love that show.
I'm fascinated by the size of his wife's breasts.
When she sits down, she can literally rest her chin on 'em.
Never seen anything like it.

720 princetrumpet  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:03:15pm

re: #30 kynna

So, Joe the Plumber's under the bus? Good to know.

Guys, I talk to God all the time. Christians do that. So he said it and it sounded like he was self-deprecating in that answer. "so I talked to God about that and he was like 'no'." Sounds like a little laugh at the idea. Do Christians feel that God gives them avenues to travel? Yes. Should they never speak in those terms? I guess they shouldn't. It's just, like, not cool.

Sorry. I just can't get my smug-on for this one.

Thank you. And here I thought only the libs held cocktail parties. Well, gotta get back to dragging my knuckles.

721 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:03:46pm
722 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:04:22pm

Good evening y'all - or rather, good morning to those of you who, like me, are in the Eastern Time zone!
What are we all talking about this evening?

723 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:04:57pm

re: #719 reine.de.tout

Goodnight Reine! Come back if the pendulous breasts fail to hold your attention, m'kay? ;-)

724 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:05:11pm

re: #722 realwest

Good evening y'all - or rather, good morning to those of you who, like me, are in the Eastern Time zone!
What are we all talking about this evening?

Realwest I think it's just you and me, and I'm about to go watch "Dog the Bounty Hunter".

You doing OK these days?

725 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:06:07pm

re: #451 MandyManners

You interested?

I asked because it could have easily been his wife who warned him not to run for office. Perhaps he mentioned "god" in order to connect with the "god fearin' 'Muricans" out there.

726 jaunte  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:06:08pm
727 BryanS  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:06:40pm

re: #718 mich-again

Agreed--on the federalism point as well. Problem is, anyone suggesting that would be demonized as anti democratic. Most people not understanding the meaning of the word would immediately reject such a proposal.

728 mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:06:41pm

re: #713 The Shadow Do

Folks want their Frankens, then they get them. File under 'sad but true'.

Good point. But I think that is exactly why the Framers excluded the Senate elections from the general population.

729 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:07:05pm

re: #724 reine.de.tout
Hi there reine! Going by the Statistics, there are over 200 of us logged in! Maybe folks are just shy.
But today, July 2nd, is a BIG anniversary for me, so I'm doing well thank you - how are you doing?

730 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:07:25pm
731 Opilio  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:07:35pm

re: #719 reine.de.tout

Well, seeing as how it's slow . . . I guess it's time for me to go watch "Dog the Bounty Hunter".

I love that show.
I'm fascinated by the size of his wife's breasts.
When she sits down, she can literally rest her chin on 'em.
Never seen anything like it.

You must not have seen the newer episodes. She's lost...a lot of weight. She strongly resembles a normal person now.

732 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:07:42pm

re: #717 alegrias

* * * * *
The 3rd party candidate Dave Barker ran against Norm Coleman and Al Franken and siphoned off 8% of the vote.

Blame the silly third party spoiler. I think I heard today that this same 3rd party idiot Dave Barker also spoiled the election that got Minnesota Jessie Ventura elected.

Frustrating for sure, but that's the way it is. If people are dopey enough to vote 3rd party then so it shall be. Plenty of 3rd party dopes on this blog. They just don't get it, but they are part of our imperfectable system. IMHO

733 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:07:46pm

re: #725 eclectic infidel

I asked because it could have easily been his wife who warned him not to run for office. Perhaps he mentioned "god" in order to connect with the "god fearin' 'Muricans" out there.

I could be wrong but, I think he's divorced.

734 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:08:26pm

re: #729 realwest

Happy BIG anniversary, Real!

Hope you're doing well this evening.

735 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:09:19pm

re: #719 reine.de.tout

Well, seeing as how it's slow . . . I guess it's time for me to go watch "Dog the Bounty Hunter".

I love that show.
I'm fascinated by the size of his wife's breasts.
When she sits down, she can literally rest her chin on 'em.
Never seen anything like it.

Very male of you, reine.

736 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:09:40pm

re: #729 realwest

Evenin' Real....don't know what BIG anniversary it is but congrats to you !

737 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:10:21pm

re: #718 mich-again

re: #705 Macker

Thanks. I've been beating that drum for a while here. Al Gore, John Kerry, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden, John McCain, Hillary Clinton, Bob Dole... They all used their Senate seat to launch presidential campaigns. Thats not what the Senate was supposed to be about. They were intended to be removed from day to day politics. Now they are in to the tippy toes.

No matter the system, Senators will no more be apolitical than the Supreme Court. People are people no matter what.

738 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:10:43pm

re: #734 pink freud
Thank you pink freud! Actually, it's the 4th anniversary of my cancer being discovered - July 2, 2005 and the two ER doctors said then that I'd only have maybe 8 months to live. I've managed to hang in there for four years!
YEA ME!

739 swamprat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:10:55pm

re: #722 realwest
drugs
politics

one seems as if it was heavily influenced by the other

unless it seems natural that a diaper wearing comedian, a pro wrestler, and a former Chicago legal shakedown artis......

nevermind


agriculture, weapons, and computer code
that's the ticket!

740 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:11:18pm
741 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:11:35pm

re: #729 realwest

Hi there reine! Going by the Statistics, there are over 200 of us logged in! Maybe folks are just shy.
But today, July 2nd, is a BIG anniversary for me, so I'm doing well thank you - how are you doing?

* * *
Happy Anniversary, Realwest!

I'm off to bed after chattering about Joe the Plumber's decision not to join the "Spread the Wealth Around" racketeers, and Michael Jackson's late conversion to islam & putting burqas on his kids, and now resting with Allah.

742 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:11:40pm

re: #736 srb1976
Good eveing to you too! Please see my #738 above as to what anniversary it is!

743 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:12:30pm

re: #738 realwest

Thank you pink freud! Actually, it's the 4th anniversary of my cancer being discovered - July 2, 2005 and the two ER doctors said then that I'd only have maybe 8 months to live. I've managed to hang in there for four years!
YEA ME!

Yea you indeed!....double congratulations and here's hoping you continue to do well!

744 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:13:11pm

re: #738 realwest

Congratulations. I believe you reach and are an inspiration for many here who read silently and do not comment. I know you are an inspiration for me.

745 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:13:31pm
746 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:13:47pm

re: #741 alegrias
Hey alegrias! Too bad for me that you're headed off to bed - I always enjoy your comments!

747 mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:13:49pm

re: #727 BryanS

Problem is, anyone suggesting that would be demonized as anti democratic.

I don't know about that. I think politics are local. And repealing 17 makes local politics a bit more relevant.

748 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:14:22pm

re: #743 srb1976
Thankew very much!

749 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:15:17pm

re: #728 mich-again

Good point. But I think that is exactly why the Framers excluded the Senate elections from the general population.

You're right in that they did not trust the electorate, e.g. property owners only vote etc.
Smart as they were they were wrong about that, at least today.
You have to trust the electorate, otherwise government becomes automatically illegitimate and subject to serious turmoil. At least from my perspective.

750 The Other Les  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:16:13pm

re: #717 alegrias

* * * * *
The 3rd party candidate Dave Barker ran against Norm Coleman and Al Franken and siphoned off 8% of the vote.

Blame the silly third party spoiler. I think I heard today that this same 3rd party idiot Dave Barker also spoiled the election that got Minnesota Jessie Ventura elected.

The guy's name is Dean Barkley.

751 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:16:44pm

Congrats and best wishes RW !

752 mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:17:07pm

re: #738 realwest

I kind of thought thats what the BIG anniversary was. I think I even remember you first revealing that to us here. Not many of us old timers around these days.

Congrats and here's to many more BIG anniversaries!

753 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:17:18pm

re: #686 The Shadow Do

Says who?

He's playing mah jong with Elvis.

754 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:17:37pm

re: #744 pink freud
Well thanks very much for that. I really didn't know - back then - if I should mention it. But I talked with a terminal cancer counselor and she told me that a lot of folks have cancer or other serious illnesses and are afraid to disclose it, or discuss it. So I thought about it and decided to post about it, honestly hoping that maybe my story would help others with their illnesses.
I hope it's worked, although I never intended to be an inspiration about it.
Your comment mean a lot to me. Thank you.

755 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:19:03pm

re: #750 The Other Les

The guy's name is Dean Barkley.

* * * *
Thanks for fact checking me--I was half asleep listening to Fred Grandy (Gopher?) discuss this early in the morning on WMAL 630 AM in Washington, DC.

Too bad 3rd party candidates sway voters and throw elections to such as Al Franken!

8% votes could have helped Norm Coleman.

756 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:19:28pm

re: #753 calcajun

He's playing mah jong with Elvis.

He's playing with what?

757 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:20:12pm

re: #745 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - man I sure hope so! It's the main reason I took the most aggressive (and resultingly painful and distressing) treatment modality they could give me. I may - hell, probably will die because of it, but I'm not gonna quit fighting it.
Just a genuine feeling of satisfaction that I've held it at bay for SO MUCH longer than those doctors said I would.
How are y'all doing tonight?

758 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:20:15pm

re: #754 realwest

It helps.

You speak of hope. You give others hope.

One of the most important tools in our human toolbox.

759 mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:20:16pm

re: #749 The Shadow Do

You have to trust the electorate, otherwise government becomes automatically illegitimate and subject to serious turmoil. At least from my perspective.

The electorate would still be electing the State Legislatures. It would make those races more relevant. Do you even know who your State Rep and Senators are? I honesty don't. I might recall their name if I heard them. Maybe.

760 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:20:19pm

re: #754 realwest

Well thanks very much for that. I really didn't know - back then - if I should mention it. But I talked with a terminal cancer counselor and she told me that a lot of folks have cancer or other serious illnesses and are afraid to disclose it, or discuss it. So I thought about it and decided to post about it, honestly hoping that maybe my story would help others with their illnesses.
I hope it's worked, although I never intended to be an inspiration about it.
Your comment mean a lot to me. Thank you.

For what it's worth, I think that the people that most inspire us, never really intend to. I don't know how to say it without sounding sappy, but there is something very special about the kind of strength it takes to face up to something like that every day, and keep moving forward.
Anyway, thanks = )

761 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:20:33pm

re: #712 alegrias


Thank you for that. Mikaeel was a Jehovah's Witness before he put on the Burqa for Mohammed, and forced it on his own California-incubated test tube children.

Poor children, their lives have not been human so far. They are guinea pigs in this freakish "King Of Pop" nightmare.

Yes, and I had wondered what The Most Dysfunctional Family on Earth™ was going to do re his conversion to the cult of islam.

They are not going to honor what may very well may have been his wishes.

The 3 children? I cried over their plight.
They may very well be Jews, as the 2 older kids were the product of artificial insemination with the mother, who was his MD's assistant, and the MD, both of whom are Jews, and have very little concept of what a 'normal' life is. It will be so hard for them.

I honestly wish that a newer will is found, and that better arrangements for their custody than his nearly-80 year old mother, and Dianna Ross, who is 60 or older do not get custody.

Michael Jackson never grew up, but had a brute, possibly a monster, for a dad. Sad. When I read the list of meds? I sat there stunned. I just hope there will be prosecutions and licenses revoked. But a lot of publicity seekers are crawling out of the woodwork, and it will take time to sort them out.

IIRC, he also over-stayed his welcome with a Sheik in an arab country...

I do not expect those emotionally abused kids to ever have a normal life...I just pray they were not physically abused

762 BryanS  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:20:35pm

re: #747 mich-again

I don't know about that. I think politics are local. And repealing 17 makes local politics a bit more relevant.

You'd have to answer the disenfranchisement charge. On an intellectual level, of course, it is a convincing case that re-empowering the States would move power closer to the people. But people are stupid when the debate gets emotional. Americans have an emotional attachment to freedom and democracy--great for protecting free speech and individual rights, but not where an intellectual argument is needed.

763 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:20:58pm

re: #751 MrPaulRevere
Well thank you very much MrPaulRevere!

764 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:21:18pm
765 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:21:19pm

re: #746 realwest

Hey alegrias! Too bad for me that you're headed off to bed - I always enjoy your comments!

* * * *
I enjoy your wisdom & polite informed discourse too! Plus lessons on life & stuff.
OK, got myself a snack so I can hang with you night owls a bit more tonight.

766 swamprat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:21:36pm

A former diaper-wearing comedian, an exwestler, and a legal shakedown artist walk into a bar the senate building.

Wait, there's a hooker.
Darn! That's the one about the U.N.

Ok, a klansman, a convicted;; @&...%^*%...
)&%...$$#...$&...(transmission lost).....
and the funny thing is, the poor chump didn't even know a gay brothel was being run from his own house.

Every time they make a joke, it becomes a law and when they make a law, it's a joke.
Mark Twain

767 pink freud  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:21:57pm

re: #757 realwest

I thought of you last night. I tyoed "ya'll's" in an email and spellcheck corrected it to "yawl's". Who knew?

768 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:22:15pm

OT- but two former residents of Gary Indiana dead with in a week-Jackson and Malden. Coincidence? I think not.

//

769 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:22:19pm

re: #752 mich-again
Thanks a lot Mich! Yeah, there aren't many of us older LGFer's around here, but I thank Charles everyday for the community here at LGF - having you guys to talk to sure as hell has helped me!

770 Racer X  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:23:30pm

Realwest - you are the man.

*tips hat*

771 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:23:47pm

re: #759 mich-again

The electorate would still be electing the State Legislatures. It would make those races more relevant. Do you even know who your State Rep and Senators are? I honesty don't. I might recall their name if I heard them. Maybe.

Actually I do. But you introduce another level of corruption, behind the public purview, with indirect election. Don't think for a moment that there would not be all kinds of shenanigans and favor trading behind closed doors for the Senatorial seats. Blago comes to mind.

772 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:23:52pm

re: #758 pink freud

It helps.

You speak of hope. You give others hope.

One of the most important tools in our human toolbox.

* * *
Yes, but Realwest's hope is real, not dopey hope.

773 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:24:36pm

re: #765 alegrias
"OK, got myself a snack so I can hang with you night owls a bit more tonight."
Yea for us! Um, watcha snacking on?

774 Racer X  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:24:42pm
775 mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:25:20pm

re: #762 BryanS

But people are stupid when the debate gets emotional.

I have great faith in American ability to think logically, given data and facts. The challenge is educating them.

776 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:25:26pm

re: #764 Iron Fist

I agree in principle, but impossible to effect.

777 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:25:42pm

One of my Facebook friends (NOT Afrocitybrown) posted that she is playing at a parade in Takoma Park, MD (pretty much the Berkeley of the east coast) on July 4th and her performance is a celebration of Pete Seeger. One of her friends commented that they should pass out flyers about nominating Seeger for a Nobel Peace Prize. I guess if Gore and Arafat got one it makes sense, but why the hell do I have friends like this? I guess it's part of being a musician.

778 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:26:34pm

re: #767 pink freud
ROTFL! That's cause spellcheck isn't regional - a Yawl is a kina of sailboat; y'all is the Southern way of saying either You or all of you. Some folks get carried away and say all y'all but I find that a tad tedious.

779 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:26:58pm

re: #774 Racer X

Lyman Alpha Blob

Is it just me, or does that second picture look like James T. Kirk was there thirty seconds earlier?

780 BryanS  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:27:33pm

re: #775 mich-again

I have great faith in American ability to think logically, given data and facts. The challenge is educating them.

Quick question then, do we need to consider liberals as people?

781 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:27:56pm

re: #778 realwest

ROTFL! That's cause spellcheck isn't regional - a Yawl is a kina of sailboat; y'all is the Southern way of saying either You or all of you. Some folks get carried away and say all y'all but I find that a tad tedious.

I had a friend in school who had moved to the south by way of rhode island...only person I ever met who said "youse all"

782 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:27:59pm

re: #770 Racer X

Realwest - you are the man.

*tips hat*


Well I AM a man, but seriously doubt that I'm THE man, but thanks for saying so anyway!
How are y'all doing tonight?

783 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:28:22pm

re: #773 realwest

"OK, got myself a snack so I can hang with you night owls a bit more tonight."
Yea for us! Um, watcha snacking on?

* * **
Don't hate me--mashed up banana in plain yogurt.

784 kynna  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:29:13pm

re: #738 realwest

Thank you pink freud! Actually, it's the 4th anniversary of my cancer being discovered - July 2, 2005 and the two ER doctors said then that I'd only have maybe 8 months to live. I've managed to hang in there for four years!
YEA ME!

Happy anniversary, realwest! Let's have four more! :D

785 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:29:26pm

re: #773 realwest

"OK, got myself a snack so I can hang with you night owls a bit more tonight."
Yea for us! Um, watcha snacking on?

Oatmeal cookies and some Yellow Tail Merlot.

786 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:30:45pm

re: #783 alegrias

* * **
Don't hate me--mashed up banana in plain yogurt.

I am learning to really like yogurt especially this kind

787 swamprat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:30:52pm

re: #783 alegrias

* * **
Don't hate me--mashed up banana in plain yogurt.

When I need to be that healthy;
I'll stay sick, thank you!

788 mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:31:21pm

re: #771 The Shadow Do

Don't think for a moment that there would not be all kinds of shenanigans and favor trading behind closed doors for the Senatorial seats. Blago comes to mind.

Blago's career is over and he is going to go to jail. Like I said, I think the corruption would be easier to police today than it was 100 years ago.

789 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:31:27pm

re: #777 Mad Al-Jaffee

One of my Facebook friends (NOT Afrocitybrown) posted that she is playing at a parade in Takoma Park, MD (pretty much the Berkeley of the east coast) on July 4th and her performance is a celebration of Pete Seeger. One of her friends commented that they should pass out flyers about nominating Seeger for a Nobel Peace Prize. I guess if Gore and Arafat got one it makes sense, but why the hell do I have friends like this? I guess it's part of being a musician.

* * * *
I'm going to at least 4 conservative Fourth of July parades & soirees including one at Bull Run (Centreville, VA), one in Great Falls, one in McLean, with conservatives. I need them now more than ever.

Make some new musical friends!

790 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:31:40pm

re: #781 srb1976

I had a friend in school who had moved to the south by way of rhode island...only person I ever met who said "youse all"


LOL! Well when I first caught LGF in December of 2003, I noticed a lot of Southern folk saying y'all, and so as a goof I started saying "youse'all" in a few posts.
First post I made after moving to N.C. and getting on line was "Good morning Y'all"!

791 itellu3times  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:34:08pm

re: #718 mich-again

re: #705 Macker

Thanks. I've been beating that drum for a while here. Al Gore, John Kerry, Barrack Obama, Joe Biden, John McCain, Hillary Clinton, Bob Dole... They all used their Senate seat to launch presidential campaigns. Thats not what the Senate was supposed to be about. They were intended to be removed from day to day politics. Now they are in to the tippy toes.

Boxer and Feinstein, use their Senate seats ... to store stacks of old magazines, I guess.

792 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:34:13pm

re: #786 srb1976

I am learning to really like yogurt especially this kind

* * * *
Wow, thanks. Looks delicious.

Greek style yogurt is all the rage--plus costs twice as much! Nice racket if you can get it.

793 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:34:20pm

re: #789 alegrias

I have a gig on the 4th, a concert at a really nice park, and a festival gig on the 5th. Most of my bandmates are Democrats but we don't discuss politics much. And probably more than half of my Facebook friends are liberal.

794 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:35:04pm

re: #783 alegrias

* * **
Don't hate me--mashed up banana in plain yogurt.


Well hell, I don't think I could hate you and truth be told I love bannanas - just not mashed and I really don't like yogurt. Reminds me of an old George Carlin Routine - basically built around the question "Who in hell would name a food YOGURT - it SOUNDS like it'd taste bad and by God it does!" LOL!

795 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:35:44pm

re: #788 mich-again

Blago's career is over and he is going to go to jail. Like I said, I think the corruption would be easier to police today than it was 100 years ago.

* * * *
Awww, don't say that. Blago was the cleanest of Obama's Chicago bunch.

Blago's problem is, for a democrat, he didn't have enough nuance.

796 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:36:24pm

re: #784 kynna
Thank you kynna - and while I may not have four more, I'm trying to hang in there for AT LEAST four more!

797 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:36:41pm

re: #769 realwest

Thanks a lot Mich! Yeah, there aren't many of us older LGFer's around here, but I thank Charles everyday for the community here at LGF - having you guys to talk to sure as hell has helped me!

Thank you, RW. You've been a great person to correspond with, and your mind is razor sharp. I've got no words for you that are better than Spock's: "Live long and prosper."

798 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:36:46pm

re: #792 alegrias

* * * *
Wow, thanks. Looks delicious.

Greek style yogurt is all the rage--plus costs twice as much! Nice racket if you can get it.

I think it's worth it (stuff sells @ 3 for $4)...but it's neither watery, nor sour....big chunks of fruit....hard to believe it's nonfat (and I hate diet food generally) = )

799 Alan K. Henderson  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:37:19pm

Dang. I was hoping he'd move to Arizona and challenge McCain.

800 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:37:22pm

re: #796 realwest

Thank you kynna - and while I may not have four more, I'm trying to hang in there for AT LEAST four more!

You are one person I want to see have four more years, real.

801 BryanS  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:38:17pm

re: #799 Alan K. Henderson

I'd rather have McCain than Obama.

802 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:38:48pm
803 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:38:49pm

Police: Robber with sword stole pain pills
Published: July 1, 2009 at 6:12 PM

Police in Colorado said a man armed with a 30-inch samurai sword took painkillers from a Walgreens pharmacy.

Investigators said Dylan Lee Suomi, 19, of Denver, jumped over the counter at the Glendale pharmacy, threatened employees with the sword and ran off with an undisclosed amount of Oxycontin pills, The Denver Post reported Wednesday.

804 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:38:53pm

re: #785 calcajun

Oatmeal cookies and some Yellow Tail Merlot.

Um, ok. Interesting combination but I'd a gone for that Merlot with some nice cheese - course I don't drink alcohol anymore, but I used to LOVE a great red wine - with food. Never thought of putting oatmeal cookies and Merlot together though!

805 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:39:20pm

re: #792 alegrias

One of the only organic products I buy is a yogurt, I think called Stoneybrook. And I only buy it because it always seems to be on sale at the grocery store. And it's pretty damn good.

806 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:39:24pm

re: #793 Mad Al-Jaffee

I have a gig on the 4th, a concert at a really nice park, and a festival gig on the 5th. Most of my bandmates are Democrats but we don't discuss politics much. And probably more than half of my Facebook friends are liberal.

* * * **
Enjoy yourselves at your gigs.
I understand people not talking politics while playing or doing something intense, but I always had musician & artiste friends who spanned the gamut of political persuasions. My faves were Cuban Republicans and Jewish Israeli hawks, however!

807 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:39:43pm

Ok, I just got in from running a concert at the theatre tonight. So, I haven't read through the who thread. I have a question...

Did God weigh in on this thread tonight about this?

808 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:39:55pm

re: #793 Mad Al-Jaffee

Same kind of situation here. I play in a local bar band with some redneck democrats but they're not moonbats by any stretch. Good guys for sure and a lot of fun to hang out with, but we figured out a long time ago to not talk politics. I do wear the LGF T-shirt every so often.

809 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:40:15pm

re: #787 swamprat

When I need to be that healthy;
I'll stay sick, thank you!


I know y'all were kidding with that but trust me, if you needed to eat that to be healthy instead of sick, you'd eat it!

810 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:40:52pm

re: #802 Iron Fist

Congratulations on the engagement.

811 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:42:15pm

re: #788 mich-again

Blago's career is over and he is going to go to jail. Like I said, I think the corruption would be easier to police today than it was 100 years ago.

No offense, but you don't really think Blago was just an isolated incident? In Chicago?

812 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:42:37pm

re: #780 BryanS

Quick question then, do we need to consider liberals as people?

Yes. I generally consider them good people with poor education of the facts and how things actually work in the real world.

813 BryanS  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:43:01pm

re: #807 Walter L. Newton

Ok, I just got in from running a concert at the theatre tonight. So, I haven't read through the who thread. I have a question...

Did God weigh in on this thread tonight about this?

She hasn't revealed herself tonight, yet, I think.

814 Neutral President  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:43:14pm

re: #793 Mad Al-Jaffee

I have a gig on the 4th, a concert at a really nice park, and a festival gig on the 5th. Most of my bandmates are Democrats but we don't discuss politics much. And probably more than half of my Facebook friends are liberal.

It's not just because you are a musician. I'm a network admin and a programmer. I have 77 Facebook friends (real meat-world friends, not bogus online ones). 15 of them are conservative, 2 sort-of conservative, 2 libertarians, 29 are true lefty libs, and the rest are vaguely left-leaning but mostly apathetic.

I try to discuss politics with none of them anymore. It saves me a lot of aggrivation keeps my blood pressure down.

815 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:43:24pm

re: #811 The Shadow Do

No offense, but you don't really think Blago was just an isolated incident? In Chicago?

The real trick is to find an UNcorrupted politico in IL and/or Chi. That would be the Holy Grail, and the Ark of the Covenant all in one.

816 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:43:41pm

re: #795 alegrias
Actually Blago's real problem was he got caught! And, iirc, if he goes to jail, that'll be 4 out of the last 5 Illinois govenors to go to jail.
Hell, the state saying should be changed to: Welcome to Illinois where our govenors make your license plate!

817 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:43:53pm

re: #804 realwest

Um, ok. Interesting combination but I'd a gone for that Merlot with some nice cheese - course I don't drink alcohol anymore, but I used to LOVE a great red wine - with food. Never thought of putting oatmeal cookies and Merlot together though!

I've had sweet. Now, some salty--a little Peccorino Romano with some balsamic vinegar.

818 Bobblehead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:44:04pm

re: #729 realwest

Hi there reine! Going by the Statistics, there are over 200 of us logged in! Maybe folks are just shy.
But today, July 2nd, is a BIG anniversary for me, so I'm doing well thank you - how are you doing?

You are an inspiration to all of here.

819 JohnAdams  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:44:07pm

re: #777 Mad Al-Jaffee

One of my Facebook friends (NOT Afrocitybrown) posted that she is playing at a parade in Takoma Park, MD (pretty much the Berkeley of the east coast) on July 4th and her performance is a celebration of Pete Seeger. One of her friends commented that they should pass out flyers about nominating Seeger for a Nobel Peace Prize. I guess if Gore and Arafat got one it makes sense, but why the hell do I have friends like this? I guess it's part of being a musician.

One of the more instructive moments I've had in many years came post- 9/11, when many of my liberal friends who had otherwise found it in their hearts to love me all these years, found out I was not a moonbat. They were disillusioned, outraged, and apoplectic. Meantime I had known their sympathies all along and was willing to overlook it.

Who is the more open-minded?

820 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:44:13pm

re: #794 realwest

Well hell, I don't think I could hate you and truth be told I love bannanas - just not mashed and I really don't like yogurt. Reminds me of an old George Carlin Routine - basically built around the question "Who in hell would name a food YOGURT - it SOUNDS like it'd taste bad and by God it does!" LOL!

* * *
You funny Americanos. Yogurt isn't for everyone, especially the plain kind.

We have a cute Tajikistani young woman as lifeguard this summer who eats plain yogurt. She is a moslem, or from a moslem family at any rate, and eating yogurt is one of the things we have in common. She makes it for herself because she says American yogurts are too sweet.

Poor nineteen year old kid says her parents didn't want her to come to the USA, and are talking about marriage offers she is receiving while she's away.

We are SO BLESSED to live in America.

821 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:44:48pm

Now--time to walk and listen to some more "John Adams"

BBL

822 itellu3times  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:44:57pm

re: #802 Iron Fist

Ditto #810, congrats on the engagement.

And sympathies on the health issues, sounds like rather a lot of no fun.

823 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:45:09pm

re: #790 realwest

Up in NW PA, my relatives say, "yuns".

824 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:45:29pm

re: #806 alegrias

One of my bandmates has a t-shirt that has a picture of Bush with the caption "INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST"

But none of them are far left guys, they're all older black guys and they lived through the civil rights struggle. I guess now they identify with Democrats.

825 pbird  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:45:37pm

re: #387 jcm

There was PBS series on the Queen of England. At one point the cameras are waiting with GWB at the South Portico for her to arrive. It's hard to explain but it was clear he was awestruck that he was going to greet the Queen as President.

I love and miss that sweet man.

826 swamprat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:45:38pm

re: #802 Iron Fist

Exercise helps you process sugar
My wife has helped me understand that Crystal Lite products no longer suck.

You can handle this. And to think you once thought two armed opponents was challenge.

827 Neutral President  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:45:55pm

re: #819 JohnAdams

One of the more instructive moments I've had in many years came post- 9/11, when many of my liberal friends who had otherwise found it in their hearts to love me all these years, found out I was not a moonbat. They were disillusioned, outraged, and apoplectic. Meantime I had known their sympathies all along and was willing to overlook it.

Who is the more open-minded?

Same here. I had some... trouble with a few people post-9/11. The ones worth dealing with I'm back in touch with or seeking to, the ones who weren't worth it... dead to me after the treatment I got for not subscribing to either lefty-moonbatitis or quasi-trooferism.

828 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:46:08pm

re: #797 Dark_Falcon
Thanks Dark_Falcon - I'm quite sure that there are more than a few who'd disagree with your idea that my mind is razor sharp though!
I DO wish I could type faster though. *Shakes Fist - again - at Ajax*

829 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:46:08pm

Fireworks spread terror in war weary town
Wed Jul 1, 2009 2:47pm EDT

GOMA, Congo (Reuters) - Independence day fireworks sent terrified Congolese sprinting for cover on Tuesday in fear that war had broken out again in their eastern city.

Officials had organized the display in Goma to highlight efforts to end more than a decade of conflict in the Democratic Republic of Congo and to show a sign of normal life returning to the region, where a peace deal took hold in January.

But residents feared it was a raging gun battle.

830 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:46:09pm
831 JohnAdams  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:46:15pm

re: #820 alegrias

* * *
You funny Americanos. Yogurt isn't for everyone, especially the plain kind.

We have a cute Tajikistani young woman as lifeguard this summer who eats plain yogurt. She is a moslem, or from a moslem family at any rate, and eating yogurt is one of the things we have in common. She makes it for herself because she says American yogurts are too sweet.

Poor nineteen year old kid says her parents didn't want her to come to the USA, and are talking about marriage offers she is receiving while she's away.

We are SO BLESSED to live in America.

Can you kidnap her?

832 Bobblehead  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:46:43pm

re: #807 Walter L. Newton

Ok, I just got in from running a concert at the theatre tonight. So, I haven't read through the who thread. I have a question...

Did God weigh in on this thread tonight about this?

God is in the details. You have to look hard.

833 BryanS  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:46:51pm

re: #812 Mich-again

Yes. I generally consider them good people with poor education of the facts and how things actually work in the real world.

Of course, I jest, but I guess my point of view may be affected by some of the socialists I see/run into in the very liberal community I live in. Facts do not phase them.

834 JohnAdams  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:47:05pm

re: #821 calcajun

Now--time to walk and listen to some more "John Adams"

BBL

But, I'm right here.

835 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:47:20pm

re: #829 FurryOldGuyJeans

Fireworks spread terror in war weary town
Wed Jul 1, 2009 2:47pm EDT

Big deal, that happens in Paris every year :)

836 Neutral President  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:47:24pm

re: #807 Walter L. Newton

Ok, I just got in from running a concert at the theatre tonight. So, I haven't read through the who thread. I have a question...

Did God weigh in on this thread tonight about this?

Was it plagued with completely inconsiderate assholes this time as well?

837 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:47:32pm

re: #807 Walter L. Newton

Ok, I just got in from running a concert at the theatre tonight. So, I haven't read through the who thread. I have a question...

Did God weigh in on this thread tonight about this?

* * * *
He's got the whole thread
In His Hands

838 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:48:19pm
839 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:48:53pm

Slovak president forced off plane after warning
Tue Jun 30, 2009 12:17pm EDT

BRATISLAVA (Reuters) - Slovakia's president was evacuated from his official plane because of a telephone warning shortly before it was due to take off on Monday.

840 swamprat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:48:54pm

re: #820 alegrias


She's in America now, so she is rich. Like she really needs some leech who thinks he can live off his american wife.

841 JohnAdams  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:49:02pm

re: #827 ArchangelMichael

Same here. I had some... trouble with a few people post-9/11. The ones worth dealing with I'm back in touch with or seeking to, the ones who weren't worth it... dead to me after the treatment I got for not subscribing to either lefty-moonbatitis or quasi-trooferism.

Really intelligent, interesting, fun people who suddenly believed Bush had managed to bungle his way into building this massive conspiracy to bring down the Twin Towers. They are still my friends, but they tread lightly around me, and I around them.

842 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:49:31pm

re: #836 ArchangelMichael

Was it plagued with completely inconsiderate assholes this time as well?

Nope. Folk concert. Just folks. Make love, do not cross my stage.

843 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:49:34pm

re: #800 FurryOldGuyJeans
Thanks FOGJ! I appreciate it very much.

844 swamprat  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:50:07pm

good night folks!

845 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:50:21pm

re: #830 Iron Fist

Oh, I know. You would never get something like that through the Legislature. Your only hope would be a Constitutional Convention. Imagine what a clusterfuckthat would be. We'd certainly not be able to get something as enduring as our Constitution has been. We're on our way to 300 years under it. I don't know if we'll make it, though. Lots of dark water and storm clouds around these days.

I don't think a Constitutional Convention could even be held these days. The nation is simply too polarized to come together on matters of great import. It would either fall apart or result in civil war.

846 altermite  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:50:51pm

re: #665 calcajun

My advice for a knife-fight? Bring a gun.

unless within 21 feet

847 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:51:08pm

re: #815 FurryOldGuyJeans

The real trick is to find an UNcorrupted politico in IL and/or Chi. That would be the Holy Grail, and the Ark of the Covenant all in one.

True, I know from whence I speak. Many moons ago I bartended for a fellow who was connected at the highest level (of Chicago/mob crookdom). I was a senior in college. Boss said he was going to make me County Clerk and Recorder.

I had a choice to make. Be corrupted for life but have big bucks and connections or ...not.

I dropped out of college and moved out of State. Why? I did not want to be a crook and I wanted to go ahead and live.

Just an anecdote, but a true one.

Trust the voters. Please.

848 BryanS  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:52:04pm

re: #845 Dark_Falcon

I don't think a Constitutional Convention could even be held these days. The nation is simply too polarized to come together on matters of great import. It would either fall apart or result in civil war.

And who's to say what we'd get out of such a convention today--probably something like the European Union treaty/constitution.

849 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:52:07pm

And in other news Franco is still dead....

Madrid strips Franco of honorary titles
Mon Jun 29, 2009 7:01pm EDT

MADRID (Reuters) - Madrid's city hall Monday stripped former Spanish dictator Francisco Franco of his title as honorary mayor and adopted son of the capital, 33 years after his death began the transition to democracy.

Councilors of all political colors unanimously voted to remove the titles, as well as medals Madrid conferred on the right-wing general, a spokesman for the council said.

"The capital of Spain is now clean of support for dictators," left-wing Councilor Milagros Hernandez, was quoted as saying on the website of TV news channel CNN+.

850 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:52:18pm

re: #824 Mad Al-Jaffee

One of my bandmates has a t-shirt that has a picture of Bush with the caption "INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST"

But none of them are far left guys, they're all older black guys and they lived through the civil rights struggle. I guess now they identify with Democrats.

* * * * *
I refused to buy a drink from a bartender wearing an anti-Bush T-shirt at some
"Artomatic" fundraiser.

Bush Hating is so last year. Oh, and so much of the "art" on display and for sale was Obama- praising iconography, barf.

No sale, not one red cent, from me.

851 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:52:43pm

re: #845 Dark_Falcon

I don't think a Constitutional Convention could even be held these days. The nation is simply too polarized to come together on matters of great import. It would either fall apart or result in civil war.


The number one reason we can't hold another Constitutional Convention is that James Madison and his peers are dead, and we haven't seen their like again.

No, we have an adult man who wears diapers as "humor."

852 pbird  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:53:09pm

re: #436 calcajun

Eww. I do not want to get between these two ladies.

Now, there is an element here that must be brought up. The French First lady is, of course, French. There might be a "person hygiene" issue here--sort of a cultural thing that's causing Mrs. O to crinkle her forehead. Just another way of looking at it.

Oh bull!

853 JohnAdams  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:53:18pm

re: #842 Walter L. Newton

Nope. Folk concert. Just folks. Make love, do not cross my stage.

I think so many "folkies" are really suburban liberals who have this idyllic pastoral idea of what country life is really like...I don't think most of them would last five minutes doing real rural hard work. And by the way, neither would I, but at least I am smart enough to not delude myself.

854 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:54:03pm

re: #802 Iron Fist
Congrats on your engagement...married life is a beautiful thing when it works.....
Hope you get the health issues under control....I've seen lots of people struggle with diabetes, it's not the easiest thing to live with (understatement I know),
Just hope it works out for you

855 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:54:21pm

re: #769 realwest

Thanks a lot Mich! Yeah, there aren't many of us older LGFer's around here, but I thank Charles everyday for the community here at LGF - having you guys to talk to sure as hell has helped me!

I count you as a friend Bro. And I thank Charles as well for hosting this community. I came here way back in the Rathergate wave. Haven't missed too many days since then.

856 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:55:00pm

re: #845 Dark_Falcon

I don't think a Constitutional Convention could even be held these days. The nation is simply too polarized to come together on matters of great import. It would either fall apart or result in civil war.

The colonies were just as polarized over being Tory or not. The support for Revolution was never a large majority of the populace, they just wanted to get on with their lives.

/ that sound familiar?

857 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:55:23pm
858 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:55:41pm

re: #851 EmmmieG

The number one reason we can't hold another Constitutional Convention is that James Madison and his peers are dead, and we haven't seen their like again.

No, we have an adult man who wears diapers as "humor."

The greatness of the Founding Generation will probably never be seen again. That many great men at the same time is the kind of luck no nation can expect more than once.

859 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:56:32pm

re: #824 Mad Al-Jaffee

One of my bandmates has a t-shirt that has a picture of Bush with the caption "INTERNATIONAL TERRORIST"

But none of them are far left guys, they're all older black guys and they lived through the civil rights struggle. I guess now they identify with Democrats.

* * * *
Tonight I attended the swearing in of a young black woman, Alicia Hughes, who won a seat as a Republican on our formerly 100% democrat city council. There was a black gentleman (also GOP) who had served on the council many years ago. The black choir sang, and it was cool to see ideological diversity acknowledge & celebrated at last in this leftist town!

THere are many conservative black families and they can come out now, and they did, to support breaking this "diversity" frontier.

860 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:57:19pm

re: #857 Iron Fist

There would be full-blown riots outside and fist fights (if not knife or gun fights) on the floor. Right now I don't think they could even get any Amendment to the Constitution through the whole process. So they pretend the parts of the Constitution that they don't like simply don't exist. Both sides do this from time to time, but I think the Democrats are worse about it.

Must concur. Any changes to the Constitution will most likely have to wait until the end of the Culture Wars, if they ever do end.

861 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:57:27pm

re: #858 Dark_Falcon

The greatness of the Founding Generation will probably never be seen again. That many great men at the same time is the kind of luck no nation can expect more than once.

And even with their flaws they still crafted a document and an ideal that far outshone any other worthy political endeavor.

Yeah, I am unabashedly one proud American.

862 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:57:33pm

re: #857 Iron Fist

There would be full-blown riots outside and fist fights (if not knife or gun fights) on the floor.

Which conjures up this quote from Thomas Jefferson..

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
863 JohnAdams  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:58:14pm

re: #858 Dark_Falcon

The greatness of the Founding Generation will probably never be seen again. That many great men at the same time is the kind of luck no nation can expect more than once.

Life was so more immediate back then, and the times were so filled with danger, that the pressure simply extracted a great moral clarity and singular purpose.

864 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:58:17pm

Britain's queen orders count of swans
Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:31am EDT

LONDON (Reuters) - Quiet please -- Britain's Queen Elizabeth is preparing to have her swans counted.

Buckingham Palace has announced that the annual Swan Upping, a tradition dating back to the 12th century which involves a census of the swan population on the River Thames, will be conducted by the queen's official Swan Marker from July 20-24.

"With the assistance of the Queen's Swan Warden, Professor Christopher Perrins of the University of Oxford, the swans and young cygnets are also assessed for any signs of injury or disease," Buckingham Palace said in announcing the count.

The process involves the Swan Marker, David Barber, rowing up the Thames for five days with the Swan Warden in traditional skiffs while wearing special scarlet uniforms and counting, weighing and measuring swans and cygnets.

It may seem eccentric, but it is very important to the queen.

865 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:58:39pm

re: #859 alegrias

Tonight I attended the swearing in of a young black woman, Alicia Hughes, who won a seat as a Republican on our formerly 100% democrat city council. There was a black gentleman (also GOP) who had served on the council many years ago. The black choir sang, and it was cool to see ideological diversity acknowledge & celebrated at last in this leftist town!

Great story.

866 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:59:21pm

re: #863 JohnAdams

You ought to know. You were there right?

867 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 9:59:56pm

re: #863 JohnAdams

Life was so more immediate back then, and the times were so filled with danger, that the pressure simply extracted a great moral clarity and singular purpose.

What do you mean by more immediate?

868 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:00:35pm
869 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:01:18pm

Air New Zealand staff bare all to get flyers' attention
Wed Jul 1, 2009 8:36pm EDT

WELLINGTON, July 2 (Reuters) - Air New Zealand (AIR.NZ: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) has hit on a novel way to make sure even the most jaded flyers keep their eyes glued on its flight safety briefing.

The national carrier's safety video for domestic services on its Boeing Co (BA.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) 737 planes show pilot and cabin crew dressed only in body paint.

870 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:01:46pm

re: #867 Dark_Falcon

What do you mean by more immediate?

Food could not be refrigerated back then for one. It must have been always on the mind of people. Hmm. whats for lunch?

871 Neutral President  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:02:02pm

re: #858 Dark_Falcon

The greatness of the Founding Generation will probably never be seen again. That many great men at the same time is the kind of luck no nation can expect more than once.

One thing that bothers me about the few of us who actually "get it" about the founding of America (and I mean really understand, not the Paulian understanding obviously), is that when things get to be intolerable, there is nowhere to go anymore. Gathering up some like-minded people and going off to a new land to start a new nation can't be done anymore. Until (if ever) interstellar travel is doable, I think we are screwed. That or we have to spend an extraordinary amount of time and energy constantly reminding people why statism and big government is bad. That seems to be doing oh so well so far /s

872 JohnAdams  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:02:27pm

re: #866 Mich-again

You ought to know. You were there right?

Have you read McCullough's biography of Adams? It will blow your mind. I had just finished it when I joined LGF and chose the nic because of it. I've actually thought of changing it because I feel extremely disingenuous using Adams' name to post my thoughts. But I don't think the bylaws here really allow it.

873 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:02:39pm

re: #840 swamprat

She's in America now, so she is rich. Like she really needs some leech who thinks he can live off his american wife.

* * * *
No no no, this young moslem lifeguard is only here for the summer. She has to return for university, and possibly to be married off by her family. She says she can refuse some marriage proposals, but at some point will have to accept, as her younger sisters cannot marry until the oldest girl is married off. And her parents are moderate moslems, barely observant!

Our condo's pool company hires these Eastern European kids, pays them poorly, houses them in a bad neighborhood, and then sends them back.

We've had Bulgarian, Ukrainian, Polish, Czech, Tajikistani & Dominican Republican lifeguards brought to the USA as cheap life guard laborers.

874 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:03:03pm

re: #872 JohnAdams

Have you read McCullough's biography of Adams? It will blow your mind. I had just finished it when I joined LGF and chose the nic because of it. I've actually thought of changing it because I feel extremely disingenuous using Adams' name to post my thoughts. But I don't think the bylaws here really allow it.

Snort. It isn't, or I would have fixed that typo in my nic.

875 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:03:26pm

back in a few....

876 kateca  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:03:49pm

re: #744 pink freud

Congratulations. I believe you reach and are an inspiration for many here who read silently and do not comment. I know you are an inspiration for me.

yep. Congratulations realwest. Keep up the good work.

877 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:03:51pm

re: #872 JohnAdams

Have you read McCullough's biography of Adams? It will blow your mind. I had just finished it when I joined LGF and chose the nic because of it. I've actually thought of changing it because I feel extremely disingenuous using Adams' name to post my thoughts. But I don't think the bylaws here really allow it.

I found the HBO miniseries on Mr. Adams to be captivating.

878 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:04:16pm

re: #827 ArchangelMichael

The last time I played poker with my friends one of them went full on moonbat and started ranting about how the fascists put 'God on the money'. Needless to say I never talk politics when playing.

879 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:04:31pm

re: #864 FurryOldGuyJeans

You should take a stroll through Regent's Park some day. It's quite lovely.

880 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:04:37pm

re: #872 JohnAdams

Have you read McCullough's biography of Adams?

I have to admit no. Sounds like a good one to take along on the long drive to Orlando in a couple weeks.

881 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:04:40pm

re: #869 FurryOldGuyJeans

Air New Zealand staff bare all to get flyers' attention
Wed Jul 1, 2009 8:36pm EDT

Tasteful, but funny vid. I like it, but you could never do that here.

882 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:05:18pm

re: #880 Mich-again

I have to admit no. Sounds like a good one to take along on the long drive to Orlando in a couple weeks.

You can read in the car? Lucky.

883 JohnAdams  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:05:47pm

re: #867 Dark_Falcon

What do you mean by more immediate?

I think people in those times in America lived on a hair-thin edge between life and death, survival and oblivion. And I don't think it was unique to America of course. The world over, your 12 year old kid could get the flu and die in two weeks. I don't think any of us living now can truly comprehend the urgent details of life they had to negotiate.

884 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:05:53pm

re: #868 Iron Fist

That'd be a damn hard thing to walk away from. I was recruited for the Outlaws. No pressure, mind you, but the offer was there if I chose to accept it. I thought about it hard, and decided against it. I know I made the right decision, but part of me regrets it. Yeah, I might have been dead or in jail if I had, but if I weren't Imagine the impression I'd make if I went to my high school reunion flying Outlaws colors.

I know people who would, if they were there, immediately leave. That would be priceless :-)

I've considered many times too about the decision I made. Probably I would have come out of it fine. But I did not want to be owned then, and I don't want to be owned now. Probably why I am very reactionary against big government. I see little difference between being under the thumb of mobsters and politicians.

885 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:06:34pm

I don't give a rat's ass how rare this is, keeping a python as a pet when small children are in the household is criminal.

Pet python kills Florida toddler
Wed Jul 1, 2009 7:09pm EDT

MIAMI (Reuters) - A Florida toddler was strangled on Wednesday by a 12-foot (3.6-meter) albino Burmese python that escaped from a holding tank in the girl's home, authorities said.

The pet's owner, a boyfriend of the child's mother, found the python on top of the 2-year-old girl in the rural community of Oxford, about 50 miles northwest of Orlando.

The python apparently broke free in the night, entered the girl's bedroom and attacked her.

"This is very rare," Patricia Behnke of the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission told reporters.

886 Neutral President  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:07:00pm

re: #878 MrPaulRevere

The last time I played poker with my friends one of them went full on moonbat and started ranting about how the fascists put 'God on the money'. Needless to say I never talk politics when playing.

I totally ignore it when it comes up, or I change the subject. Even my "conservative" friends tend to drive me up the wall in similar situations. I have to keep 2-3 interesting topics on the backburner most of the time I'm with my friends for poker games or whatever. As soon as something asinine is said... switch to auxiliary topic.

887 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:07:05pm
888 JohnAdams  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:08:25pm

re: #880 Mich-again

I have to admit no. Sounds like a good one to take along on the long drive to Orlando in a couple weeks.

It will prolly take you back and forth to finish....quite lengthy, but reads like a novel.

889 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:09:16pm

re: #802 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - yes I did get an e-mail about the engagement from you and one from your fiancee too!
I'm really happy for you on that front. You are a lucky man there my brother.
As to the diabetes and the job well, all I can say at least out here on LGF, is that I knew you'd been put on disability from your job. But I HOPE AND PRAY that they let you keep your medical insurance - if not, I WOULD suggest you file a case against 'em and while you're at it, seriously Bro', check with a qualified disability lawyer to see what kind of time limits there may be on bringing a lawsuit or whatever.

BUT the BEST ADVICE I CAN GIVE YOU IS: FOCUS ON THE DAMNED DIABETES. Push the other shit out of your mind (unless you need to be more pro active in terms of health insurance and disability benefits (pay). The rest of it is just bullshit - your life is THE most important things right now. I know your fiancee will stand beside you come hell or high water, so please my friend, please focus on the damned diabetes. And - I think I've mentioned this to you in an e-mail, if you're doing what the doc says and not doing anything the doc says not to do, then you need to see another Endorcrinologist for another opinion. Not saying your current one is wrong or anything, but getting additional advise from a specialist in the field is ALWAYS a great idea.
Hell, I've been to four oncologists - cause one in NYC didn't want me to go on this treatment modality so I found someone else willing to give it a go and down here I called three oncologists, sent records to two and chose the one who agreed to keep with my treatments. You do have a serious health problem, but YOU ARE ONE SERIOUSLY TOUGH GUY and you need a tough doc on your side now!
As usual, brother, my prayers are going up for you.

890 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:09:45pm

re: #887 Iron Fist

Our government is a bad form of government. There are many places that could be improved.

Government run by fallible human beings is ALWAYS going to be bad.

891 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:09:45pm

re: #886 ArchangelMichael

Sage advice indeed. Your post 871 is soooo right on the money as well.

892 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:09:55pm

re: #883 JohnAdams

I think people in those times in America lived on a hair-thin edge between life and death, survival and oblivion. And I don't think it was unique to America of course. The world over, your 12 year old kid could get the flu and die in two weeks. I don't think any of us living now can truly comprehend the urgent details of life they had to negotiate.

I know I don't. But thank you for reminding me of how good I've got it.

893 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:10:37pm
894 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:11:53pm

re: #888 JohnAdams

It will prolly take you back and forth to finish....quite lengthy, but reads like a novel.

Wonderful book. Absoloutely full immersion in the times. Any book by McCollough needs to be read.

He was fully involved in the TV production as well...and it showed. Best book, best television in years.

895 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:13:10pm

re: #818 Bobblehead
Thank you very much. I appreciate it a lot and just hope that by "talking about it out here" other folks with medical problems will feel easier talking about their problems with other folks. It's damn hard to fight serious, maybe terminal illness alone; having friends out here to talk to can and does help.

896 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:14:00pm

re: #882 EmmmieG

Yep. Must come from all those days in my youth reading comic books while the family motorhome tooled around the Country.

897 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:14:39pm

re: #896 Mich-again

Yep. Must come from all those days in my youth reading comic books while the family motorhome tooled around the Country.

My daughter can read in the car. I can barely read a map before I get sick.

You are very lucky.

898 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:14:45pm

re: #823 sngnsgt

Up in NW PA, my relatives say, "yuns".

Well hell, your relatives speak funny, y'all know that, right?
:)

899 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:14:54pm

Oo-RAH! Go Jarheads!

U.S. Marines launch major assault in Afghan valley
Thu Jul 2, 2009 12:52am EDT
By Peter Graff

GARMSIR, Afghanistan (Reuters) - Thousands of U.S. Marines stormed into an Afghan river valley by helicopter and land on Thursday, launching the biggest military offensive of Barack Obama's presidency with an assault deep in Taliban territory.

Operation River Liberty, which the Marines call simply "the decisive op," is intended to seize virtually the entire lower Helmand River valley, heartland of the Taliban insurgency and the world's biggest heroin producing region.

In swiftly seizing the valley, commanders hope to accomplish within hours what NATO troops had failed to achieve over several years, and by doing so turn the tide of a stalemated war in time for an Afghan presidential election in August.

"The intent is to go big, go strong and go fast, and by doing so we are going to save lives on both sides," Brigadier-General Larry Nicholson, commander of the Marines in southern Afghanistan, told his staff before the operation.

900 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:15:28pm
901 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:15:50pm

Iron Fist,

As Realwest advises, tackle diabetes with all you've got! With your doctor's advice & consent, get moving, exercising, eating differently, take advantage of those diabetic dieticians if your health plan has one, or research it if not.

Your future marriage will be better, and your partner's married life will be better too, when you conquer diabetes.

Trust me on this.

902 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:16:40pm

Mortgage-Rescue Plan to Cover More Borrowers

The Obama administration is expanding the number of borrowers who can refinance home loans under its housing-rescue program, an acknowledgment that more needs to be done to help people who are upside down on their mortgages.

The administration said Wednesday that borrowers with mortgages worth up to 125% of their home's value will now be eligible to refinance under its program, up from a 105% limit.

To be eligible, borrowers must be current on their mortgages and have loans owned or backed by government-controlled mortgage companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

WTF, didn't they learn anything from the last two years?

/here we go again

903 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:18:01pm

re: #895 realwest

My oldest son's best friend's dad passed away (at age 47) the other day after a bout with pancreatic cancer. About a year ago this week my Father in Law died from the same thing. I celebrate anyone who beats cancer even for one more day. Keep on keepin on.

904 Wendya  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:18:14pm

re: #850 alegrias

* * * * *
I refused to buy a drink from a bartender wearing an anti-Bush T-shirt at some
"Artomatic" fundraiser.

Bush Hating is so last year. Oh, and so much of the "art" on display and for sale was Obama- praising iconography, barf.

No sale, not one red cent, from me.

I make it a habit not to enter any store with Obama merchandise or peace signs in the window.

905 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:18:42pm

re: #902 Killian Bundy

Mortgage-Rescue Plan to Cover More Borrowers

WTF, didn't they learn anything from the last two years?

/here we go again

* * * * *
Mark Levin the author of "Men in Black" and "Liberty and Tyranny", was on Hannity's show tonight and said

As far as the US economy, Obama is 1000 times worse than Madeoff.

906 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:18:52pm

I'm listening to a replay of Glen Becks radio show. He's going on a weird rant about the national parks. I'm not making this up.

907 JohnAdams  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:19:02pm

re: #893 Iron Fist

You could create a sock, and then use it. It isn't exactly kosher, but if you didn't abuse it I don't think Charles would block your accounts.

Thanks, but not gonna' mess with the Grand Lizard. As The Great Gatsby said: "It's his house, old sport." ;~)

908 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:19:48pm

re: #902 Killian Bundy

Mortgage-Rescue Plan to Cover More Borrowers

WTF, didn't they learn anything from the last two years?

/here we go again

Wow, that is a big jump! That might improve the terms of the re-fi I've been working on. I know Obama's doing the wrong thing here, but if it ends up saving me a good bit of money, I'll be grateful to him.

909 Neutral President  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:20:25pm

re: #902 Killian Bundy

Mortgage-Rescue Plan to Cover More Borrowers

WTF, didn't they learn anything from the last two years?

/here we go again

Of course they didn't. The current administration and congress is in complete and total denial of the root of the problem. I did not see one peep about repealing the Community Reinvestment Act and I'm sure Barney Frank still has nothing but good things to say about FRE and FNM.

910 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:20:49pm

re: #906 MrPaulRevere

I'm listening to a replay of Glen Becks radio show. He's going on a weird rant about the national parks. I'm not making this up.

* * * *
Wasn't Beck talking about California threatening to close its national parks because of California's deficit?

911 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:21:09pm

re: #906 MrPaulRevere

I'm listening to a replay of Glen Becks radio show. He's going on a weird rant about the national parks. I'm not making this up.

The Bad Craziness has fully consumed Glen Beck. He's moving into Alex Jones territory.

912 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:21:23pm

re: #907 JohnAdams

I see no issue with your nickname at all. Its a sign of respect, as is mine.

913 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:21:24pm
914 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:21:43pm
915 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:21:49pm

re: #895 realwest

Thank you very much. I appreciate it a lot and just hope that by "talking about it out here" other folks with medical problems will feel easier talking about their problems with other folks. It's damn hard to fight serious, maybe terminal illness alone; having friends out here to talk to can and does help.

Realwest, I missed your key post. Do you have this thing whipped/on the run?
Give it hell Mr. Realwest. You are an inspiration here.

916 JohnAdams  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:22:41pm

re: #912 MrPaulRevere

I see no issue with your nickname at all. Its a sign of respect, as is mine.

Thanks, light a lantern or two.

917 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:23:03pm

re: #910 alegrias

* * * *
Wasn't Beck talking about California threatening to close its national parks because of California's deficit?

Actually, the issue is potential federal takeovers of state parks if they are closed. Cali is planning to shutter its state parks for lack of money. I don't like the idea, but I like the Dems idea of an additional $15-per-car tax even less.

918 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:23:54pm

re: #908 Dark_Falcon

As will lots of people including me. That could save us a nice piece, maybe a few hundred a month. Enough for a couple weeks groceries from ALDI anyway.

919 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:23:57pm

re: #910 alegrias

No. I don't have the transcript, but his kooky producer 'Stu' said "How can any conservative support the idea of national parks?" Glen then went on his rant.

920 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:24:24pm

re: #916 JohnAdams

Thanks, light a lantern or two.

Well, Mich-again is going by car, so it had better be one.

*Grin*

921 JohnAdams  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:24:53pm

re: #913 Iron Fist

I tried to refinance earlier this year and got nada. As in nada chance. I'm not upside down on my mortgage (thank God), but I have a ton of credit card bills. I'd have liked to bundle everything up together, but that was not to be. I should have mortgaged it to the hilt (although I do have a pretty tight mortgage), then let the government come bail my stupid ass out.

Upding. And if that is what a hardworking conservative is thinking, whaddya think the millions of less principled lot are up to?

922 alegrias  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:25:36pm

Dick Cheney's daughter Liz Cheney is talking about the leak about Hillary Clinton telling Obama how to talk tough/what to do on foreign policy. (on a rerun of Greta Van Susteren's show of tonight)

Liz Cheney is awesome! She knows her foreign policy players and who does what. Brains to spare from both her awesome parents, Dick & Lynn Cheney.

923 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:26:06pm

re: #920 EmmmieG


Well, Mich-again is going by car, so it had better be one.

Nope. An SUV from Tennessee. A nice new Chevy Traverse.

924 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:26:38pm
925 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:28:06pm

re: #917 Dark_Falcon

Actually, the issue is potential federal takeovers of state parks if they are closed. Cali is planning to shutter its state parks for lack of money. I don't like the idea, but I like the Dems idea of an additional $15-per-car tax even less.

Another kicker is that if the Feds do take over parks CA stands to lose quite a chunk of change in Federal Parks monies.

926 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:28:08pm

re: #923 Mich-again

Nope. An SUV from Tennessee. A nice new Chevy Traverse.

Yeah, well, as long as the Bostonians don't need to worry about you...

927 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:29:08pm

See you all tomorrow. Again, Iron Fist, congratulations.

928 JohnAdams  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:29:08pm

re: #922 alegrias

Dick Cheney's daughter Liz Cheney is talking about the leak about Hillary Clinton telling Obama how to talk tough/what to do on foreign policy. (on a rerun of Greta Van Susteren's show of tonight)

Liz Cheney is awesome! She knows her foreign policy players and who does what. Brains to spare from both her awesome parents, Dick & Lynn Cheney.

Terrific but I still don't see too many seated politicians taking a real tough stance against this catastrophe that reveals another detail of its ugly face each day. If I was in Congress I think I'd take off my pants on the pulpit to get some pub for my outrage. What are these people afraid of? Losing their jobs? Hell it isn't the end of the world. Just ask me.

929 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:30:09pm

re: #925 FurryOldGuyJeans

Another kicker is that if the Feds do take over parks CA stands to lose quite a chunk of change in Federal Parks monies.

That fact will probably keep about 67 of the state parks open. The others are almost certain to close. It's a pity, but it must be done. There's no money to run them and it's good that Ahnold has come to understand that.

930 Mich-again  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:31:38pm

Out. The LL all-star team has the first game tomorrow and I'm helping coach after an up and down first season as a LL manager. Oh I got the game down pat right about now. At the draft, pick up anyone who can throw a ball and/or can run fast. You can teach the rest easy if they can do that...

931 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:31:44pm

re: #871 ArchangelMichael

One thing that bothers me about the few of us who actually "get it" about the founding of America (and I mean really understand, not the Paulian understanding obviously), is that when things get to be intolerable, there is nowhere to go anymore. Gathering up some like-minded people and going off to a new land to start a new nation can't be done anymore. Until (if ever) interstellar travel is doable, I think we are screwed. That or we have to spend an extraordinary amount of time and energy constantly reminding people why statism and big government is bad. That seems to be doing oh so well so far /s


Well we really don't have any choice about spending an extraordinary amount of time and energy reminding peope - or in many cases for the first time educating them - why statism and big government is so bad. The only realistic alternative would be to give up our fight for OUR country and that's somethng I'll never do. I firmly believe that America is a GREAT NATION, filled with GREAT PEOPLE, but they must be constantly reminded that Freedom is the most valued "right" of all; that as Thomas Jefferson would say, any government big enough to give you all you have is big enough to take all you have from you. If it means constantly beating the drums and speaking up even when it's unpopular and you have a hostile audience - maybe especially then - then so be it.
We have failed our children and the younger working generations by NOT making a BIG DEAL over the founding of this nation for an idea. An idea that no one ever tried to do in the history of the world, and that is that the governed should do the governing, with the minority always have protection for the most precious liberties provided in a document: The Bill of Rights.

So we do keep working at it, and I thank you and everyone like you who spend an extraordinary amount of time and energy constantly reminding people why statism and big government is bad.

932 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:31:54pm

re: #929 Dark_Falcon

That fact will probably keep about 67 of the state parks open. The others are almost certain to close. It's a pity, but it must be done. There's no money to run them and it's good that Ahnold has come to understand that.

It is only 6 parks that are in question regarding Fed seizure: Angel Island and Mount Diablo near San Francisco; Point Sur in Big Sur; and beaches at Fort Ord Dunes near Monterey, Point Mugu near Malibu; and Border Fields along the Mexican border.

933 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:32:48pm
934 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:33:22pm

re: #876 kateca
Thank you very much.

935 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:33:32pm

Barney Frank: Let's spend TARP profits before taxpayers can get them

When President Obama announced on June 9 that some financial institutions would be allowed to repay Troubled Asset Relief Program dollars, he said the massively expensive TARP bailout had made money for the federal government. "It is worth noting that in the first round of repayments from these [TARP recipients], the government has actually turned a profit," the president said. Indeed, TARP supporters have long held out the hope that the program might be profitable.

But now Rep. Barney Frank, the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, has come up with a proposal to spend any TARP profits before they can be returned to the taxpayers. Last Friday, Frank introduced the "TARP for Main Street Act of 2009," a bill that would take profits from the program and immediately redirect them toward housing proposals favored by Frank and some fellow Democrats.

/there goes another trillion down the toilet, could this get any more ridiculous?

936 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:34:43pm

re: #933 FurryOldGuyJeans

Helps to link the correct link, d'oh!

You are correct. I was referring to the fact that 67 CA state parks have received federal money out of over 200.

937 lostlakehiker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:34:49pm
Asked if he has plans to run for public office, he replied, “I hope not. You know, I talked to God about that and he was like, ‘No.’”


Bolstering God's already sterling reputation for infallibility, I'd say.

938 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:35:18pm

re: #935 Killian Bundy

Barney Frank: Let's spend TARP profits before taxpayers can get them

/there goes another trillion down the toilet, could this get any more ridiculous?

As a matter of fact it can get more ridiculous, especially now that the Dems have a virtual lock on the entirety of government until at least the 2010 mid-terms.

939 JohnAdams  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:35:41pm

re: #935 Killian Bundy

Barney Frank: Let's spend TARP profits before taxpayers can get them

/there goes another trillion down the toilet, could this get any more ridiculous?

I bet if you spend a couple weeks with him...

940 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:36:44pm

re: #910 alegrias

Apologies, you were correct. The possibility of a fed takeover of state parks was the lead in. Here is what his kooky producer 'Stu' said per the transcript: "I mean, just as a conservative, how could anyone I mean, I understand if you are a liberal, you might like it. But I mean, as a conservative why would you want a park owned by the federal government? " Apparently hating the national park system makes one a good conservative. [Link: www.glennbeck.com...]

941 Simple Voice  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:37:01pm

Wow!
My post, # 721 was deleted.
I said that I was glad Joe prayed and then I quoted two Bible verses.

What line did I cross?

I even had 4 thumbs ups on the +/- buttons.

942 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:37:40pm

re: #931 realwest

...that as Thomas Jefferson would say, any government big enough to give you all you have is big enough to take all you have from you.


Says it all. This should be the message front and center of all conservative political campaigns - and in just those words.

943 JohnAdams  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:38:01pm

Out. Enjoy your Independence Day. Firecrackers, beer, potato salad, and kids running through the sprinkler.

944 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:38:44pm

re: #935 Killian Bundy

Barney Frank: Let's spend TARP profits before taxpayers can get them

/there goes another trillion down the toilet, could this get any more ridiculous?

Our answer to that should be swift. By next week, the GOP should be lined up behind a bill to direct any TARP proceeds into tax rebates. The money belongs to the people and government must not be allowed to forget that. The bill should be a easy sell for every Republican. We unite the party and show ourselves on the side of the public. The Dems may vote us down, but casting that vote will hurt them.

945 pbird  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:39:25pm

re: #786 srb1976

I am learning to really like yogurt especially this kind

Fat free yougurt is foul. There is complete Greek yogurt yaknow?

946 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:39:25pm

re: #903 Mich-again
I'm awfully sorry to hear of your losses my friend. But trust me, I'll keep on keeping on until I kill the cancer or it kills me.
And as my bro' Iron Fist will tell ya, I don't lose easy!

947 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:40:21pm

re: #944 Dark_Falcon

Our answer to that should be swift. By next week, the GOP should be lined up behind a bill to direct any TARP proceeds into tax rebates. The money belongs to the people and government must not be allowed to forget that. The bill should be a easy sell for every Republican. We unite the party and show ourselves on the side of the public. The Dems may vote us down, but casting that vote will hurt them.

As much of a no-brainer as your plan is, you and I both know it would be whiffed by the GOP.

948 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:43:20pm

re: #947 FurryOldGuyJeans

As much of a no-brainer as your plan is, you and I both know it would be whiffed by the GOP.

Maybe not. This would be the sort of thing "Tea Party" rallies are good for. Use rallies, use talk show hosts, use conversations, but get the message to our congresspeople: Tax rebates are what we demand you support. Opt for pork instead and we'll throw you out next year. We elect you, so see this matter done right.

949 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:44:53pm

re: #948 Dark_Falcon

Maybe not. This would be the sort of thing "Tea Party" rallies are good for. Use rallies, use talk show hosts, use conversations, but get the message to our congresspeople: Tax rebates are what we demand you support. Opt for pork instead and we'll throw you out next year. We elect you, so see this matter done right.

O lawdy! You said Tea Parties! ;)

950 Macker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:46:06pm

re: #935 Killian Bundy

Barney Frank: Let's spend TARP profits before taxpayers can get them

/there goes another trillion down the toilet, could this get any more ridiculous?

[deleted]

951 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:46:47pm
952 Macker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:48:06pm

re: #951 Iron Fist

Starting with Senator Lettuce!

953 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:48:29pm

At the risk of stating the obvious, Barney Frank is drunk with power. He knows no one will hold him to account.

954 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:48:41pm

re: #909 ArchangelMichael

Of course they didn't. The current administration and congress is in complete and total denial of the root of the problem. I did not see one peep about repealing the Community Reinvestment Act and I'm sure Barney Frank still has nothing but good things to say about FRE and FNM.


Again, you are spot on. On today's DT - thread re FireFox, another LGFer warned everyone that as now written AND PASSED by the House of Reps, the new Cap and Trade bill will require all homeowner to meet certain minimium standards of envrionmental purity: double paned glass windows, storm doors, addition insulation etc. etc., ALL as certified by a contractor licenesed by the EPA BEFORE THE HOMEOWNER CAN PUT THE HOUSE ON THE MARKET. So all those folks hoping to "downsize" or facing foreclosure will - not may - will get fucked on this. If you don't have enough dough to pay your mortgage and taxes and insurance (like, say, you recently lost your job) somewhere you may have to come up and spend more money to make your home more "envrionmentally friendly". The LGFer gave a link to that particular part of the bill as amended by Waxman but I'm afraid I can't remember who the LGFer was or what the link was.

955 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:49:16pm

re: #949 FurryOldGuyJeans

O lawdy! You said Tea Parties! ;)

Yeah, I did. Large rallies are a good way to put pressure on congresscritters and that's what we need. Kilgore may disagree but he has yet to propose an alternative.

956 freetoken  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:50:00pm

re: #940 MrPaulRevere

Glenn Beck has written about his disdain for TR and the concept of National Parks.

957 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:50:49pm

re: #955 Dark_Falcon

Kilgore may disagree but he has yet to propose an alternative.


My Alternative: Wait for sane proposals, then endorse them.
/......I'm waiting

958 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:52:58pm

re: #956 freetoken

I am firmly convinced Glenn Beck is mentally ill. A pox on Murdochs house for giving him TV time.

959 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:53:36pm

Unlocked: the secrets of schizophrenia
Scientific breakthrough offers hope of new treatments for mental condition
By Steve Connor science editor
Thursday, 2 July 2009

Scientists have discovered a remarkable similarity between the genetic faults behind both schizophrenia and manic depression in a breakthrough that is expected to open the way to new treatments for two of the most common mental illnesses, affecting millions of people.

Previously doctors had assumed that the two conditions were quite separate. But new research shows for the first time that both have a common genetic basis that leads people to develop one or other of the two illnesses.

960 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:54:02pm

re: #915 The Shadow Do
Please see my #738 and thank you very much.

961 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:55:11pm

re: #957 Killgore Trout

My Alternative: Wait for sane proposals, then endorse them.
/......I'm waiting

My proposal: Co-opt the Tea Party name and use it to launch a series of rallies around my proposed TARP Tax Rebate bill. Let the non-racist sections of the Paulians have some role, as long as it is made brutally clear that these rallies will only be about supporting the bill. That should work well enough to accomplish my main objective: Uniting the party around an idea that will win voter support. Actually passing the bill (unlikely) would be a bonus.

962 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:55:56pm

re: #956 freetoken

Glenn Beck has written about his disdain for TR and the concept of National Parks.

I have taken the measure of Glenn Beck. He is a stupid man.

If I want Beck's kind of comedy, I will watch old Jerry Lewis movies which show, at least, a bit of ingenuity.

963 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:56:33pm

re: #951 Iron Fist

I read about your diabetes. I am also a Type II, as is my husband. I am on 2 different kinds of insulin, and was put on it on Day One. My blood glucose was about 470. In a few weeks on insulin, and all kinds of help from my Endocrinologist, the diabetic dietician and the adviser, I was in control, and have been for the past 15 or so years.

I test 4-6x/day, etc.

Are you on any meds for diabetes? My husband is on diet control only, as I diagnosed him when I misunderstood him and made him test. He was at 140 when he tested. I had him test before dinner, bedtime, and the following AM...my Endocrinologist said he would see him immediately. So far, so good.

964 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:56:48pm
965 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:56:57pm

Wow, heavy man.

UPDATE 1-Arianespace launches "largest commercial satellite"
Wed Jul 1, 2009 4:22pm EDT

* TerreStar-1 largest commercial comms satellite-Arianespace

* Estimated cost satellite, launch, insurance over $500 mln

(Adds details)

By Laurent Marot

CAYENNE, French Guiana, July 1 (Reuters) - An Ariane rocket has launched from French Guiana on Wednesday the TerreStar-1 satellite, billed by the Arianespace rocket launch company as "the largest commercial communications satellite ever launched".

TerreStar blasted off from the European Space Agency's (ESA) launch centre in Kourou, French Guiana on the northeast coast of South America at 2.52 pm (1752 GMT).

It was released into orbit twenty-six minutes later.

966 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:58:23pm

re: #958 MrPaulRevere

This is not an ad hominem on Beck, by the way. Mental illness runs in his family: "His early life was pitted with tragedies; his mother and one of his brothers committed suicide". [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

967 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:58:49pm

re: #960 realwest

Please see my #738 and thank you very much.

Like I said Real, give it hell. And I see that you damn well have.

Carry on, and stay well.

968 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 10:58:53pm

Ok, back now, did I miss the wild party? = )

969 Neutral President  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:00:42pm

re: #956 freetoken

Glenn Beck has written about his disdain for TR and the concept of National Parks.

Which is a classic libertarian stance of taking-an-issue-way-too-far for sake of philosophical and logical consistency. Even when I was a libertarian, this was an *eyeroll/facepalm* subject for me.

They forget that as imperfect human beings, no political philosophy devised by humans can ever be "perfect". Therefore pursuit of such consistency takes you to illogical and asinine extremes.

970 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:00:46pm
971 Macker  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:01:22pm

re: #954 realwest

BTW, I hear Waxman fainted....

972 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:01:26pm

re: #962 The Shadow Do

If I want Beck's kind of comedy, I will watch old Jerry Lewis movies which show, at least, a bit of ingenuity.


Or you could watch old Al Franken shows. I hear he was once marginally funny.

973 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:02:25pm
974 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:02:54pm

re: #972 realwest

Or you could watch old Al Franken shows. I hear he was once marginally funny.

In a very creepy kind of way...

975 Syrah  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:03:04pm

re: #970 Iron Fist

That sucks. And I am getting ready to sell my house. I hope I can get it done before this bullshit gets signed into law. I don't have the ten or twelve grand this unfunded mandate will require of me. I'd have to walk away and let them forclose. Which is the very thing that started this financial crisis. Democrats aren't very bright, are they?

Its not so much that they are not very bright as it is that they just don't give a damn.

You only matter to them if you are dependent on them.

976 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:03:48pm

re: #970 Iron Fist
Well remember my friend it's not the law YET. The Senate still has to vote on it and if I were you I'd do what I did, write my Senators (Burr R) didn't bother with the other one, she's a very liberal D. And try to sell your house as soon as possible.

977 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:04:32pm

re: #962 The Shadow Do

I have taken the measure of Glenn Beck. He is a stupid man.

If I want Beck's kind of comedy, I will watch old Jerry Lewis movies which show, at least, a bit of ingenuity.

Danny Kaye in The Court Jester, thank you very much.

978 capitalist piglet  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:04:34pm

re: #957 Killgore Trout

My Alternative: Wait for sane proposals, then endorse them.
/......I'm waiting

But what does that mean for the average person? I can sit here and say I am in favor of a "sane proposal" all day long, but who will hear me? Are we back to writing letters to people in congress who couldn't care less what we think? I've had enough of that, thanks - everyone representing me in Washington state is a Democrat.

979 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:05:28pm

re: #969 ArchangelMichael

Right on the money as usual. The Fed take over of state parks may or may not be bad policy, but I hardly think it portends the end of the Republic. Glenn Beck is a utopian trying to drag us back to a perfect past that never existed.

980 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:05:40pm

re: #971 Macker
Really - what happened - did he have an unexpected encounter with reality?

981 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:06:20pm

re: #980 realwest

Really - what happened - did he have an unexpected encounter with reality?

LOL, loves it!

982 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:06:41pm

re: #975 Syrah
SPOT ON COMMENT, Syrah!

983 sngnsgt  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:08:00pm

re: #898 realwest

Well hell, your relatives speak funny, y'all know that, right?
:)

That's not the only thing funny about my relatives...

984 realwest  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:09:42pm

Well y'all it's been grand - I thank everyone for the kind words and wishes, but I have to get to sleep NOW!
Hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Good night, all.

985 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:09:58pm

re: #983 sngnsgt

That's not the only thing funny about my relatives...

My relatives are the normal ones in the family.......

986 srb1976  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:11:00pm

re: #983 sngnsgt

That's not the only thing funny about my relatives...

hey, my family resembles that remark = )

987 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:15:32pm

Another good actor, gone:

Oscar-winning actor Karl Malden dead at 97
Jul. 1, 2009 12:40 PM
Associated Press

LOS ANGELES -- The family of Karl Malden says the actor who won an Oscar for his role in "A Streetcar Named Desire" has died at age 97.

988 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:15:39pm

re: #979 MrPaulRevere

Right on the money as usual. The Fed take over of state parks may or may not be bad policy, but I hardly think it portends the end of the Republic. Glenn Beck is a utopian trying to drag us back to a perfect past that never existed.

I used to think of utopians as harmless fools. I have come to know now that they present real danger. Enough of them and you have a movement dragging society into some sort of psychotic cellar of their imagining. And it does not matter what political poll the insanity derives.
Glenn Beck
Ron Paul
President Obama
etc
etc
etc

989 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:17:48pm
990 calcajun  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:18:04pm

re: #872 JohnAdams

Have you read McCullough's biography of Adams? It will blow your mind. I had just finished it when I joined LGF and chose the nic because of it. I've actually thought of changing it because I feel extremely disingenuous using Adams' name to post my thoughts. But I don't think the bylaws here really allow it.

Am a third of the way through. Love the little touches, like Franklin and Adams having to share a bed in New Jersey while traveling to meet Admiral Howe --another interesting note in our history. Great book.

991 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:21:11pm

re: #987 FurryOldGuyJeans

Another good actor, gone:

Oscar-winning actor Karl Malden dead at 97
Jul. 1, 2009 12:40 PM
Associated Press

I'll always remember him as Omar Bradley in Patton. He was good actor and a good man. RIP

992 NY Nana  Wed, Jul 1, 2009 11:47:00pm

re: #989 Iron Fist

I feel like crying, so help me. You must be so frustrated.

I had wicked diabetic neuropathy that now only acts up once every few months, and then goes away. It is like hell fire, but you already know that, sadly.

If you can, please call the Joslin Clinic, in Boston. All my family members who were diabetic, on both sides, were treated there. I am from Boston originally. As soon as I knew what I had, and I admit to being in denial for months, I called them to ask to be admitted and be regulated. No could do...now I would have to stay in a hotel, and go there every day for the classes. I then asked if there was an Endocrinologist in our area who was trained in the Joslin method. Thank G-d there was. I had been seeing another Endo for an autoimmune disease, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, and got a call from his RN to tell me my last test results..and she said, at the end 'Oh, by the way, the Doctor is on a ski holiday. He will be back in 2 weeks.'...I freaked, and asked what the hell I was supposed to do..'Go to your pharmacist and ask which test meter he recommends. That was when I called the Joslin, and got the referral.

The American Diabetes Association has a website...don't bother to join. The money they charge for membership is used, 75%, for executive salaries. Research? Ha!

You need top notch care, and I fear for all of us when, G-d forbid, Obamacare ever becomes law.

Got to go to sleep! I left my email blue in case you ever need to vent, etc.

I have been in your face since the day I was diagnosed, and as diabetes is nearly endemic world-wide, I refuse to go into the ladies' room to test in a restaurant..I have gotten a lot of dirty looks, but the bacteria lurking in the loo? No thanks!

There will be an answer for you. There has to be. You are one tough cookie, and with your future wife, you will win!

G'nite, all! Sweet dreams.

993 GGMac  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:24:20am

re: #40 ArmyWife

I talk to G-d all the time, too. But he doesn't advise me on what to do in words like "no" - that's the rub here, I'd think.

Hmmmm. One might wonder if you're thinking there's a requirement written somewhere that G-d has to express Himself to others exactly as He expresses Himself to you. You've not previously impressed me as an arrogant person, however - so I must have mistaken the intent of your comment....?

994 GGMac  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:32:18am

re: #989 Iron Fist

I'm on all kinds of meds. Oral, injectable, I feel like a goddamned junkie I take so many pills (not just for diabetes). My problem is insulin resistance, rather than a dead pancrease. My GP tried everything and the only drug that really worked, actos, made me gian thirty pounds in thirty days.

My diabetes is very aggressive. Before I was diagnosed, it ate up the nerves in my feet. So I have all the joy of numbness and pain that comes with neuropathy. My blood sugar can swing by ungodly amounts. I've had it go fro 90 and an hour later it'll be over 500. Part of that is diet, and I'm trying to work on that, but I'll never be able to manage mine without some form of medication. They are trying to wean me off of the insulin, but right now that is impossible. To get my sugars in control I'm having to use a super-concentrated insulin, U-500. It is marked on the bottle "not for general use", and the pharmacist refused to believe the stuff existed until my doctor walked him through finding it.

I take this stuff in half-cc amounts several times a day. If I weren't so insulin resistant, the quantity of insulin I take would kill me. As it is, my blood sugar averages about 300. They're saying that they won't let me return to work until my blood sugar levels average around 160. I'm not exactly sure how we get there from here. I need to lose about a hundred pounds as a starting point.

Thanks for asking :-)

Prayers going up for you, Iron Fist - please know you'll be a "regular"; helping the only way I can.

995 GGMac  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:01:01am

re: #931 realwest

Well we really don't have any choice about spending an extraordinary amount of time and energy reminding peope - or in many cases for the first time educating them - why statism and big government is so bad. The only realistic alternative would be to give up our fight for OUR country and that's somethng I'll never do. I firmly believe that America is a GREAT NATION, filled with GREAT PEOPLE, but they must be constantly reminded that Freedom is the most valued "right" of all; that as Thomas Jefferson would say, any government big enough to give you all you have is big enough to take all you have from you. If it means constantly beating the drums and speaking up even when it's unpopular and you have a hostile audience - maybe especially then - then so be it.
We have failed our children and the younger working generations by NOT making a BIG DEAL over the founding of this nation for an idea. An idea that no one ever tried to do in the history of the world, and that is that the governed should do the governing, with the minority always have protection for the most precious liberties provided in a document: The Bill of Rights.

So we do keep working at it, and I thank you and everyone like you who spend an extraordinary amount of time and energy constantly reminding people why statism and big government is bad.

WOW, realwest! Thay comment is now in my favorites; so beautifully stated. Thanks.

996 GGMac  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:26:33am

re: #874 EmmmieG

Snort. It isn't, or I would have fixed that typo in my nic.

I love your avatar...What's it's all about, eh?

997 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 4:32:23am

This blog entry makes me want to go back and listen to that Regina Spektor song "Laughing With" that was posted a few days ago.

998 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 4:34:35am

"God can be fuUuUuUny..."

999 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 4:35:03am

Those case changes are Regina's major third warbles.

1000 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 4:36:28am

THOUSANDTH! (Just testing to see if the site's autoreprimander gives me a stern warning.)

1001 Truck Monkey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 5:03:50am

1001! I remember celebrating the year 1001 with Helen Thomas in Middle Ages France. I wonder if anyone will even read this.

1002 ihateronpaul  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 5:22:23am

The future of the republican party...LOL

1003 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 5:27:53am

re: #1001 Truck Monkey

1001! I remember celebrating the year 1001 with Helen Thomas in Middle Ages France. I wonder if anyone will even read this.

Someone will, but Helen Thomas probably won't.

1004 Nemesis6  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:21:24am

Is Joe still doing the "Look at me! I'm a reporter!" thing?

1005 Adrenalyn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:29:21am

Charles, you have it all wrong
God said: Abraham, give me a son
Abe said: Man you must be puttin me on

Joe wasn't even there........

1006 brain-washed sheeple  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:21:04am

Note to any "believers"... if you feel the need to pray about any big decision in your life, you will be mocked and ridiculed for it.

Good to know.

1007 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:23:48am

re: #1006 brain-washed sheeple

Wrong.

If you say God told you specifically not to run for office, you might, though.

1008 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:23:38am

re: #45 buzzsawmonkey

I don't see why it's risible to talk to G-d. At least G-d occasionally answers prayers in the affirmative.

Talk to a therapist, and all you'll get is "So, how do you feel about that?"

I talk to God all the time. I just try to be carful not to confuse Her word and my own conclusions.

1009 RexMundi  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:20:27pm

re: #27 brookly red

I was divinely instructed to never suffer pineapple on pizza.

Amen!

1010 RexMundi  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:23:09pm

re: #37 Slumbering Behemoth

He's not even anywhere near the bus. Joe is not "bus worthy". He's just a dude folks like to interview sometimes.

Joe the Dumber: He's the Kaeto Kailin of the political world!


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