Sanford: Dog About Town

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Politics • Thu Jul 2, 2009 at 6:16 am PDT • Views: 183

More of the Mark Sanford story’s leaking out, and it’s just not looking any better for the philandering creationist governor: Sanford, like a man in love, gushes about his ‘soul mate,’ confesses to other encounters.

Crying at times and clearly wearing his emotions on his sleeve, the two-term governor also acknowledged that he had casual encounters with other women but insisted that he never crossed the line by having sex with them.

“If you’re a married guy, at the end of the day, you shouldn’t be dancing with somebody else,” he said.  “There were a handful of instances wherein I crossed the lines I shouldn’t have crossed as a married man but never crossed the ultimate line.”

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1 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:18:59am

in da doghouse!

2 CIA Reject  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:20:16am

Gov Sanford? Andy Warhol called- your fifteen minutes are up.

SO SHADDUP ALREADY!

Sheesh!

3 Karridine  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:20:20am

Its difficult when one lacks a set of guiding PRINCIPLES!

4 Randall Gross  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:20:46am

If you're married you pretty much shouldn't dancing with anyone else at any time during the day, end, middle, or beginning.

5 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:21:13am

Sanford was considered VEEP material by the McCain campaign...yikes, what a basketcase of torrid sensationalism & instability.

NOT ready for prime time, though he won't leave the stage nor quit baring his "soul".

Way past time for him to leave & let someone stable lead South Carolina.

6 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:21:49am

Look under the word "cad" in the dictionary and you'll see a photograph of Sanford.

I hope his wife cleans his clock in divorce court.

7 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:22:21am

Too many lines, not enough character.

8 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:22:44am

If she doesn't leave him now, I will have lost all respect for her.

9 Karridine  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:22:52am
Crying at times and clearly wearing his emotions on his sleeve

...could also be written as

"Sniveling and whining about his public exposure as an emotion-driven, mindless crotch-bot, Sanford tried to play on the emotions of others at the press conference..."
10 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:23:44am

What a Maroon!

11 Gella  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:24:03am

so, does it means they are just "friends"?

12 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:24:14am

I'm thinking toast for breakfast...

13 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:24:30am

re: #8 rightside

If she doesn't leave him now, I will have lost all respect for her.

you know she is loaded big time also. her daddy is rich

14 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:24:36am

Question. If you are cheating on your wife with another woman, let's call her woman #2, but you cheat on both with woman #3, can woman #2 get mad?

15 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:24:49am

re: #11 Gella

so, does it means they are just "friends"?

With benefits.

16 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:24:52am

Maybe Sanford can parlay his notoriety into a confessional talk show/blog/book/circus for folks who care about his "love story", or deep thoughts.

Take your revival tent outta here & go sin elsewhere other than the Governor's office.

17 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:25:12am

re: #12 J.D.

I'm thinking toast for breakfast...

I'm thinking niblets mounted over the mantle.

18 Ms. MacIceweasel  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:25:51am

Love means never having to say you're resigning...

19 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:26:12am

re: #13 Nevergiveup

I know nothing about her...rich or not, he's rubbing her face in it, and can't even realize he is!

20 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:26:12am

Does this dumbfuck really think that crying in public will salvage his political career?

21 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:26:21am

re: #14 Cannadian Club Akbar

Question. If you are cheating on your wife with another woman, let's call her woman #2, but you cheat on both with woman #3, can woman #2 get mad?

She'd know what he is so I don't think she'd have a right to complain.

22 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:27:14am

Charles ... Did you pull an all nighter? This is pretty early for you.

23 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:27:18am

re: #20 Spare O'Lake

Does this dumbfuck really think that crying in public will salvage his political career?

I'm beginning to think he thinks he's a special snowflake leaning toward narcissism.

24 Pianobuff  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:27:35am

I'm most embarrassed for his wife and kids.

Clearly this dude is having an extended meltdown in full view.

Maybe he's hoping he gets a reality show when this chapter ends.

The Sanford Wives?
Look at me I'm an Ass?

25 J.S.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:28:28am

I find Sanford disgusting. CNN ticker notes that Sanford now has a book deal going? Good grief.

26 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:28:38am

Sounds like Clinton.

When you're married, Happy Endings are sex.

Otherwise:

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Your welcome.

27 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:28:56am

OT
Meanwhile in Afghanistan's moonscape, a US soldier is missing and going through God knows what on our behalf and that of Afghans under Taliban control.

Please think of these Americans and others deployed in virtual Hell.

NOT hiding in the Appalachian Trail or Argentina like cowardly Sanford, living it up.

28 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:29:04am

You're welcome.

Dammit, Jim!

29 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:29:05am

he'll be out of a job by next week ...

30 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:29:20am

So this man is the first and only politician to make a
horrendous, horrible mistake of falling in love with someone other than his wife?
Are men who believe in evolution incapable of falling in love with
another woman?
His feelings seem sincere to me, but his feelings are misguided and
wrong.

31 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:29:37am

re: #26 Ben Hur

Sounds like Clinton.

When you're married, Happy Endings are sex.

Otherwise:

The Tiny Robot that Can Crawl Through Your Veins—And Treat Your Tumors

Your welcome.


That'll get under some folks skin.

32 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:29:39am

re: #25 J.S.

I find Sanford disgusting. CNN ticker notes that Sanford now has a book deal going? Good grief.

*face:palm*

33 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:30:10am

re: #29 _RememberTonyC

he'll be out of a job by next week ...

The SCGOP needs to act now.

34 Ms. MacIceweasel  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:30:25am

re: #25 J.S.

I find Sanford disgusting. CNN ticker notes that Sanford now has a book deal going? Good grief.

I believe he already had the bookdeal. Looks like it'll be pretty different from what the original proposal would have stated!

I also think he's essentially publicly begging his wife to kick him loose for good, because he doesn't have the nerve to do it himself.

35 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:30:28am

re: #20 Spare O'Lake

Does this dumbfuck really think that crying in public will salvage his political career?


Hillary cried during the primaries and she is Sec. of State. He should have cheated on his taxes as well for a cabinet position.

36 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:30:48am

Crossing the Line

Mark Sanford’s back in the headlines, now admitting to having “crossed lines” with women in the past, though maintaining that it was only with Maria Chapur that he “crossed the ultimate line.” But perhaps even more unsavory than his latest revelation is Sanford’s reasoning for not resigning the governorship, which he’s been disseminating on his Twitter page this week:

Immediately after all this unfolded last week I had thought I would resign — as I believe in the military model of leadership and when trust of any form is broken one lays down the sword. A long list of close friends have suggested otherwise - that for God to really work in my life I shouldn’t be getting off so lightly. While it would be personally easier to exit stage left, their point has been that my larger sin was the sin of pride. They contended that in many instances I may well have held the right position on limited government, spending or taxes — but that if my spirit wasn’t right in the presentation of those ideas to people in the General Assembly, or elsewhere, I could elicit the response that I had at many times indeed gotten from other state leaders.

In other words, he’s willing to stay on, against his own impulses, because he believes it’s God’s way of punishing him for committing adultery? Either Sanford’s speechwriters are having an off-week, or this man has actually deluded himself into believing that the governorship is more about Mark Sanford’s personal life than about the interests of South Carolina voters.

The drivel actually gets worse, as Sanford goes on to appoint himself reformed poster boy for family values:

Accordingly, [these friends] suggested that there was a very different life script that would be lived and learned by our boys, and thousands like them, if this story simply ended with scandal and then the end of office — versus a fall from grace and then renewal and rebuilding and growth in its aftermath.

How lucky for the thousands of Americans who will benefit from Sanford’s brave decision to remain governor.

Needless to say, these are the sorts of factors Sanford should have considered before last week’s Appalachian vacation by way of Buenos Aires. This kind of talk surely reflects the worst kind of narcissism among politicians. It’s not hard to see how a man with this sort of ego could’ve found himself embroiled in extramarital affairs.

37 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:30:51am

re: #32 MandyManners

*face:palm*

I take it you are not placing a pre-ordering.

38 Summer Seale  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:31:02am

I honestly think he's just having a serious mental breakdown at this point. Getting caught was like being injected with Sodium Pentothal. Now we waited a bit and it's all just gushing out...

How embarrassing.

39 whiterasta  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:31:09am

I despise men who get caught and then do the public man-cry thing.

Damn sissies.

40 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:31:51am

re: #27 alegrias

OT
Meanwhile in Afghanistan's moonscape, a US soldier is missing and going through God knows what on our behalf and that of Afghans under Taliban control.

Please think of these Americans and others deployed in virtual Hell.

NOT hiding in the Appalachian Trail or Argentina like cowardly Sanford, living it up.


Maybe the more technically savvy lizards can answer this for me. Why is it that when we send our brave soldiers into places like afghanistan, they are not imbedded with a GPS tracking chip? Seems to me that at the very least, they could be imbedded in the uniform of the soldier, if not actually placed under his/her skin in a fleshy area of the body? Seems to me that this would aid in the ability to pinpoint the soldier's location and rescue them.

41 J.S.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:32:12am

re: #32 MandyManners

What makes me suspect that his "book deal" will consist of a compilation of his love-note emails? which have already been made available...

42 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:32:13am

re: #30 NonNativeTexan

So this man is the first and only politician to make a
horrendous, horrible mistake of falling in love with someone other than his wife?
Are men who believe in evolution incapable of falling in love with
another woman?
His feelings seem sincere to me, but his feelings are misguided and
wrong.

A mistake is pushing the wrong button on the telephone. Going out of your way to have inappropriate contact with other women is a DELIBERATE act. Unzipping your pants to have sex with another woman is a DELIBERATE act.

43 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:32:43am

re: #30 NonNativeTexan

So this man is the first and only politician to make a
horrendous, horrible mistake of falling in love with someone other than his wife?
Are men who believe in evolution incapable of falling in love with
another woman?
His feelings seem sincere to me, but his feelings are misguided and
wrong.

I disagree.
What the heck is he doing airing his "sincere feelings" in public?
Phony, phony, phony.

44 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:33:36am

re: #37 jcm

I take it you are not placing a pre-ordering.

I'd rather buy the future biography of Whacko Jackon.

45 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:33:58am

re: #40 _RememberTonyC

Maybe the more technically savvy lizards can answer this for me. Why is it that when we send our brave soldiers into places like afghanistan, they are not imbedded with a GPS tracking chip? Seems to me that at the very least, they could be imbedded in the uniform of the soldier, if not actually placed under his/her skin in a fleshy area of the body? Seems to me that this would aid in the ability to pinpoint the soldier's location and rescue them.

I've often thought about that also.

Then I remember our Press.

The NYTIMES, etc, the SECOND they would hear about such a program, would, against all advise from the administration, military, etc, would LOUDLY expose the program in great detail.

Our soldiers would then be cut up looking for the chip.

46 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:34:33am

re: #40 _RememberTonyC

Maybe the more technically savvy lizards can answer this for me. Why is it that when we send our brave soldiers into places like afghanistan, they are not imbedded with a GPS tracking chip? Seems to me that at the very least, they could be imbedded in the uniform of the soldier, if not actually placed under his/her skin in a fleshy area of the body? Seems to me that this would aid in the ability to pinpoint the soldier's location and rescue them.

* ** *
We implant ID chips in our pets! Why not high tech "dog tags" for our troops? Great idea.
Maybe someone can tell us if not done, why not?

47 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:34:40am

re: #33 MandyManners

The SCGOP needs to act now.


he's practically begging them to do it

48 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:34:47am

re: #41 J.S.

What makes me suspect that his "book deal" will consist of a compilation of his love-note emails? which have already been made available...

No. 34 suggests that the deal already existed.

49 Spider Mensch  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:34:49am

re: #39 whiterasta

I despise men who get caught and then do the public man-cry thing.

Damn sissies.

with this guy i keep seeing that tv evangelist..what was his name..glasses, brylcream head, red face tears streaming down "I have sinned!.."..? swaggart? can't remember..but all I can think of when I read about this idiot sanford, is that guy.

50 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:34:54am

re: #43 Spare O'Lake

So he is an evil human being and is worthy of ridicule and
mean spirited humor?

51 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:35:16am

re: #40 _RememberTonyC

Maybe the more technically savvy lizards can answer this for me. Why is it that when we send our brave soldiers into places like afghanistan, they are not imbedded with a GPS tracking chip? Seems to me that at the very least, they could be imbedded in the uniform of the soldier, if not actually placed under his/her skin in a fleshy area of the body? Seems to me that this would aid in the ability to pinpoint the soldier's location and rescue them.

Short answer, GPS isn't small enough yet.

The units you can buy for you car are receive only. To do the tracking it also has to transmit, that takes more power, bigger batteries, antennas etc...

52 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:35:27am

Well good morning y'all - from a warmish (73 degrees going up to 91 degrees) but sunny, Carolina Blue skied Charloot!
Hope you are all doing ok and Good Morning Charles!
My goodness, you put this thread up at 6:16 AM YOUR time! Hope it was cause you were escorting a hot attractive date out of your home from last night, and not because you had insomnia or something like that!

53 Ziggy  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:36:19am

He is clearly hitting the self destruct button (repeatedly) on purpose. OT, Charles is up early. Good Morning.

54 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:36:26am

re: #47 _RememberTonyC

he's practically begging them to do it

Why are they dragging their feet?

55 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:36:46am

re: #49 Spider Mensch

with this guy i keep seeing that tv evangelist..what was his name..glasses, brylcream head, red face tears streaming down "I have sinned!.."..? swaggart? can't remember..but all I can think of when I read about this idiot sanford, is that guy.

Yes, Jimmy Swaggart.

56 Ms. MacIceweasel  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:36:47am

re: #36 J.D.

Sanford's 'humility' lasted about one day.

Then he moved on to comparing himself to the biblical King David, with the message being"God forgave him, so why don't you all shut up about me?"

"I have been doing a lot of soul searching on that front. What I find interesting is the story of David, and the way in which he fell mightily, he fell in very very significant ways. But then picked up the pieces and built from there."

As King of Israel and Judea, David saw Bathsheba in the bath (he was walking on the roof at the time, goes the story) and immediately had to have her. After getting her pregnant, he tried to conceal it by ordering her husband Uriah to return from war and sleep with Bathsheba, so that the baby would be thought of as Uriah's.

But Uriah preferred to remain at war. So David gave an order that Uriah should be abandoned in battle, ensuring his death. Then he married Bathsheba.

When all this came out -- thanks to an intrepid reporter from the Bethlehem-based State, who was tipped to emails exchanged between David and Bathsheba, then staked out David at the Jerusalem airport -- David refused to resign as king of Judea. His presidential hopes also took a hit.

[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

I lost all sympathy for him then. He's an arrogant, hubristic bastard, whatever else is going on with him.

57 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:37:37am

re: #49 Spider Mensch

with this guy i keep seeing that tv evangelist..what was his name..glasses, brylcream head, red face tears streaming down "I have sinned!.."..? swaggart? can't remember..but all I can think of when I read about this idiot sanford, is that guy.

Yeah, that was Swaggart back in 1988. What a lovely person he was. :/

58 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:37:42am
Sanford: Dog About Town


Good title for this thread, btw.

59 Spider Mensch  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:38:05am

re: #55 MandyManners

Yes, Jimmy Swaggart.


thanks, i actually remembered that idiot..lol..thats scary..

60 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:38:10am

re: #50 NonNativeTexan

So he is an evil human being and is worthy of ridicule and
mean spirited humor?

He needs to shut the fuck up and retreat into his house. This public catharsis is doing no good for anyone.

How do you think this is affecting his wife and children!

61 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:38:14am

re: #54 MandyManners

On the first day, there was someone in the SC senate I believe, who said (paraphrasing) I will give him enough time to do what is right (resign), and if he doesn't, we will force him out.

62 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:38:19am

re: #40 _RememberTonyC

Maybe the more technically savvy lizards can answer this for me. Why is it that when we send our brave soldiers into places like afghanistan, they are not imbedded with a GPS tracking chip? Seems to me that at the very least, they could be imbedded in the uniform of the soldier, if not actually placed under his/her skin in a fleshy area of the body? Seems to me that this would aid in the ability to pinpoint the soldier's location and rescue them.


Also, there is a company that is hocking chip-the-heel boots for that type of thing.

I don't know if the military picked it up.

63 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:38:42am

re: #51 jcm

Short answer, GPS isn't small enough yet.

The units you can buy for you car are receive only. To do the tracking it also has to transmit, that takes more power, bigger batteries, antennas etc...


thanks ... but as Alegrias mentioned, we have such devices for our pets. what are the capabilities of those devices? would it not be better than nothing?

64 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:38:50am
65 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:38:53am

re: #56 iceweasel

I about choked when I read that King David bit the other day.

Narcissism.

66 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:39:04am

THE GOVERNMENT ALREADY IMPLANTS CHIPS IN ALL OUR HEADS!

67 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:39:19am

re: #52 realwest

Morning {real}. I'm driving up to take the granddaughter to Sea World After Dark later.
It will be warmish!

68 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:39:31am

re: #13 Nevergiveup

you know she is loaded big time also. her daddy is rich

And her Ma is good lookin'

69 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:39:54am

re: #52 realwest

Well good morning y'all - from a warmish (73 degrees going up to 91 degrees) but sunny, Carolina Blue skied Charloot!
Hope you are all doing ok and Good Morning Charles!
My goodness, you put this thread up at 6:16 AM YOUR time! Hope it was cause you were escorting a hot attractive date out of your home from last night, and not because you had insomnia or something like that!


Hello young man ... it's raining in Connecticut for about the 40th straight day. I think I may build an ark or something.

70 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:40:00am

re: #66 Ben Hur

please google "gulf of tonkin"

71 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:40:01am

re: #66 Ben Hur

THE GOVERNMENT ALREADY IMPLANTS CHIPS IN ALL OUR HEADS!

Yeah I know that. That is why I always have my tinfoil hat on.

72 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:40:03am

re: #66 Ben Hur

THE GOVERNMENT ALREADY IMPLANTS CHIPS IN ALL OUR HEADS!

Well, you'll never notice it since they take out a small portion of the brain to fit it in.

It's tingly!

73 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:40:04am

re: #61 rightside

On the first day, there was someone in the SC senate I believe, who said (paraphrasing) I will give him enough time to do what is right (resign), and if he doesn't, we will force him out.

I saw an elected Republican official say that he was gonna' stick a financial probe up Sanford's butt.

74 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:40:05am

re: #50 NonNativeTexan

So he is an evil human being and is worthy of ridicule and
mean spirited humor?

He should just shut the f*** up. By choosing to put on this endless staged public performance he is responsible for the consequences.

75 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:40:06am
76 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:40:14am

And as Mark Twain once said "it may be impolite to blow your own horn, but if you don't the music may never be played!" I'm just happy today because today is the 4th anniversary of my cancer being discovered - July 2, 2005 and the two ER doctors said then that I'd only have maybe 8 months to live. I've managed to hang in there for four years!
YEA ME!
And thank you Charles - without the community you have built here at LGF, I'm not so sure I would have made it.

77 Skembo  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:40:27am

OK, so Sanford is a POS, and should be kicked to the curb, I again wonder why it was necessary to state that he is a creationist in the title...

78 Jimmah  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:40:41am

re: #36 J.D.

Heh. So Gods special punishment for him was to let him get away with it so he could feel the full weight of guilt. I don't even think Eric Cartman could try that one without blushing.

79 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:41:08am

re: #56 iceweasel

Sanford's 'humility' lasted about one day.

Then he moved on to comparing himself to the biblical King David, with the message being"God forgave him, so why don't you all shut up about me?"

[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

I lost all sympathy for him then. He's an arrogant, hubristic bastard, whatever else is going on with him.

I agree.
He's also a nutcase.
It's a shame his family has to suffer on account of all that.

80 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:41:10am

re: #54 MandyManners

Why are they dragging their feet?


beats me ... unless Sanford has dirt on others who may be his political adversaries.

81 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:41:13am

re: #73 MandyManners

Yeah, but he already admitted using taxpayer $$ to pay, and said he would reimburse the state. He needs to be impeached pronto.

82 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:41:28am

re: #76 realwest

And as Mark Twain once said "it may be impolite to blow your own horn, but if you don't the music may never be played!" I'm just happy today because today is the 4th anniversary of my cancer being discovered - July 2, 2005 and the two ER doctors said then that I'd only have maybe 8 months to live. I've managed to hang in there for four years!
YEA ME!
And thank you Charles - without the community you have built here at LGF, I'm not so sure I would have made it.

Congratulations! Here's to 50 more years.

/salute

83 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:41:34am

re: #63 _RememberTonyC

thanks ... but as Alegrias mentioned, we have such devices for our pets. what are the capabilities of those devices? would it not be better than nothing?

They are wearable, not implantable.
Wearable could be taken off and stuck in a donkey pack headed south.

84 Skembo  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:41:59am

re: #81 rightside

Agreed

85 jill e  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:42:02am

As cited by The Corner:

This is the excellent foppery of the world: that when we are sick in fortune — often the surfeits of our own behavior — we make guilty of our disasters the sun, the moon, and stars, as if we were villains on necessity, fools by heavenly compulsion, knaves, thieves, and treachers by spherical predominance, drunkards, liars, and adulterers by an enforced obedience of planetary influence. An admirable evasion of whoremaster man, to lay his goatish disposition on the charge of a star!

~Shakespeare (Edmund, in Lear)

86 Ms. MacIceweasel  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:42:12am

re: #43 Spare O'Lake

I disagree.
What the heck is he doing airing his "sincere feelings" in public?
Phony, phony, phony.

Plus, the guy lied. To everyone.

He'd been begging his wife for months to let him go to Argentina. She wouldn't. When he said he was 'going away to write', she only asked that he NOT go to Argentina. Which of course is where he went immediately.

He hasn't told the truth to anybody. This would all still be hushed up if not for the newspaper meeting him at his return flight, and later informing him that they had the email correspondence.

And the only reason he's mentioning NOW that there were other women is because the newspaper broke that story too.

I could care less what he does in his person life, but he took off without word, for what was intended to be ten days. Who expects to keep a job when doing that? Much less a job like governor?

87 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:42:34am

Sanfords confessions might start a trend with pols.
Remember when they were falling all over themselves saying things like, " I did experiment with marijuana in college."

88 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:42:38am

re: #82 MrSilverDragon
Thank you very much, but I'd settle for say 5 more years!

89 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:43:05am

re: #75 taxfreekiller

List:

Things for liberal loons to make excuses for Obama about.

1. 9.5% unemployment .
2. $3. trillion over spending.
3. Rights of American Citizenship Conferred on illegal combatants.
4. What transparency.
5. New spending
6. Cap and Trade energy cost.
7. Who is going to loan the now broke U.S.A. money for his Democrat Party National Health Care.
8. His support for the "Friends of Chavez and Castor Club Members".
9. His new poll numbers.
10. His poll numbers if and when he brings up making citizens out of the
20 million illegals with the then unemployment at 10% or higher.

Full time work for a few on line liberals.

No work for productive Americans.

Nope... Obama is now taking credit...

90 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:43:15am

re: #73 MandyManners

I saw an elected Republican official say that he was gonna' stick a financial probe up Sanford's butt.

that may be something sanford enjoys ... for all we know ...

91 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:43:25am

re: #60 MandyManners

Unfortunately his deliberate act is public, his life is public,
so he almost has to "recover" in public. It is devastating for his
family. His marriage is not irreconcilable. I have known men
who did much worse than he and were united again with their
family. I just don't believe adultery in and of itself is a death
blow to a marriage or career.

92 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:43:28am

re: #74 Spare O'Lake

He should just shut the f*** up. By choosing to put on this endless staged public performance he is responsible for the consequences.

He was responsible for all of this the very moment he had sex with another woman.

93 Jimmah  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:43:47am

re: #77 Skembo

Perhaps something about creationists in public office and dishonesty going hand in hand too on too regular a basis to ignore?

94 Skembo  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:43:49am

re: #90 _RememberTonyC

I need the brain drano, that was not a pretty mental picture...

95 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:44:03am

re: #78 Jimmah

Heh. So Gods special punishment for him was to let him get away with it so he could feel the full weight of guilt. I don't even think Eric Cartman could try that one without blushing.

LOL!

96 Ms. MacIceweasel  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:44:13am

re: #75 taxfreekiller

List:

Things for liberal loons to make excuses for Obama about.

3. Rights of American Citizenship Conferred on illegal combatants.

Link to where illegal combatants have all been made American citizens, please.

I know you don't have one, so don't bother.

97 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:44:15am

re: #76 realwest

And as Mark Twain once said "it may be impolite to blow your own horn, but if you don't the music may never be played!" I'm just happy today because today is the 4th anniversary of my cancer being discovered - July 2, 2005 and the two ER doctors said then that I'd only have maybe 8 months to live. I've managed to hang in there for four years!
YEA ME!
And thank you Charles - without the community you have built here at LGF, I'm not so sure I would have made it.


we admire toughness ... and you sir ... are tough.

98 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:44:20am

re: #89 jcm Good morning jcm! How are you doing today?

99 Skembo  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:44:42am

re: #93 Jimmah

About the same as when the MSM states that a candidate who does something shady is Republican and not when they are Democrat... It's too low for this site.

100 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:45:01am

re: #77 Skembo

OK, so Sanford is a POS, and should be kicked to the curb, I again wonder why it was necessary to state that he is a creationist in the title...

Because Charles thought it is relevant?

101 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:45:11am

re: #76 realwest

That's incredible!
Whatever you're doing, keep at it!

102 swamprat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:45:15am

re: #76 realwest

You rock, realwest

103 Ziggy  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:45:21am

re: #89 jcm

Nope... Obama is now taking credit...




OK, I will. IT'S A FAILURE!

104 J.S.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:45:31am

Christopher (the unhinged) Hitchens has written a column on how much he loathes the Republican Party. He mentions his "loathing and disgust" with Nixon. Due, apparently, to simply seeing or hearing Nixon. (I was never a great fan of Nixon, but it was for certain policies of Nixon, not for Nixon's appearance...maybe it's a "British thing?") Anyway, Hitchens maintains that Republicans who attempt to claim to be "centrist" or appeal to the "middle ground" will be aligned with Nixon (or so claims/hopes the Unhinged One). (I also suspect the Sanford debacle will add to the fray as smears of the Republican Party continue)...

105 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:45:32am

re: #96 iceweasel

Link to where illegal combatants have all been made American citizens, please.

I know you don't have one, so don't bother.


What is an "illegal combatant?"

106 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:45:40am

re: #80 _RememberTonyC

beats me ... unless Sanford has dirt on others who may be his political adversaries.

That's about the only reason I can think of.

107 Skembo  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:45:45am

re: #100 MandyManners

I guess that's all that matters since it's his site, and we are guests here. It reaks of the MSM way.

108 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:45:58am

re: #98 realwest

Good morning jcm! How are you doing today?

Good News!
Extended 4th Holiday weekend begins.

Bad News!
I'm finishing the improvements to the bathroom.

109 mich-again  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:46:23am

This Sanford guy just doesn't know when to shut up.

Dude. Just stop already.

110 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:46:25am

re: #81 rightside

Yeah, but he already admitted using taxpayer $$ to pay, and said he would reimburse the state. He needs to be impeached pronto.

There may be other money he's used that he has not confessed to. Maybe they're taking their time investigating him.

111 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:46:29am

re: #88 realwest

Thank you very much, but I'd settle for say 5 more years!

Think big, that's what I say. :)

112 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:46:32am
113 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:46:36am

re: #83 jcm

They are wearable, not implantable.
Wearable could be taken off and stuck in a donkey pack headed south.

understood. thanks

114 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:46:47am

re: #109 mich-again

This Sanford guy just doesn't know when to shut up.

Dude. Just stop already.

Sock

Mouth

Insert

115 Skembo  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:46:56am

GTG, Love you guys, try the veal.

116 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:47:30am

re: #85 jill e

As cited by The Corner:

This is the excellent foppery of the world: that when we are sick in fortune — often the surfeits of our own behavior — we make guilty of our disasters the sun, the moon, and stars, as if we were villains on necessity, fools by heavenly compulsion, knaves, thieves, and treachers by spherical predominance, drunkards, liars, and adulterers by an enforced obedience of planetary influence. An admirable evasion of whoremaster man, to lay his goatish disposition on the charge of a star!

~Shakespeare (Edmund, in Lear)

Or, as Marion Barry would say, "The bitch set me up".

117 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:47:46am

Speaking of our press, the washington post is now selling access to officials in this administration.

Grasping at straws, and still losing readership.

118 J.S.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:47:48am

re: #48 MandyManners

Whether or not the book deal goes forward (and what the topic/theme) will be determined later this week...link here.

119 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:48:17am

re: #90 _RememberTonyC

that may be something sanford enjoys ... for all we know ...

I'm moving back to my cave if he starts discussing things like that.

120 swamprat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:48:29am

re: #96 iceweasel

Link to where illegal combatants have all been made American citizens, please.

I know you don't have one, so don't bother.

Prisoners of war do not usually get civil trials.

121 SummerSong  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:48:44am

Dogs are loyal, this guy is a self involved jerk.

122 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:48:46am

re: #76 realwest

And as Mark Twain once said "it may be impolite to blow your own horn, but if you don't the music may never be played!" I'm just happy today because today is the 4th anniversary of my cancer being discovered - July 2, 2005 and the two ER doctors said then that I'd only have maybe 8 months to live. I've managed to hang in there for four years!
YEA ME!
And thank you Charles - without the community you have built here at LGF, I'm not so sure I would have made it.

Good on you real. I got my diagnosis a couple of weeks ago but it's "only" early prostate cancer - no hill for a climber.

123 Ms. MacIceweasel  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:49:25am

re: #78 Jimmah

Heh. So Gods special punishment for him was to let him get away with it so he could feel the full weight of guilt. I don't even think Eric Cartman could try that one without blushing.

The awesome thing about some religions, for sociopaths and narcissists, is that they can always feel that whatever happens is always part of God's special plan for them and God has his eye fixed on them and only them.

These are the kind of people (sociopaths and narcissists) who can read about an earthquake around the world that killed tens of thousands of people, and somehow find in it only the message that god loves them and only them.

124 Mournie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:49:41am

He needs to exit...who cares about his emotional rollercoaster and who wants to listen to is self deprecating whines which he seems to think still justifies him being there. He used taxpayers money on a deliberate act of deception ... hello -- he's not doing the job he was hired to do...

125 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:49:42am

re: #120 swamprat

Also, why are enemy combatants given constitutional protections, when they are not even citizens?

126 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:49:56am

BBC to prove King Arthur was no Briton

Film-makers are due to arrive in Croatia next month (july) to begin filming the programme with British historian John Matthews, who believes Arthur was really Roman general Lucius Artorius Castus.

Wow.

The BBC REALLY hates its own people, culture and history.

127 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:50:00am

re: #113 _RememberTonyC

understood. thanks

We are damn close.

Other issues with military stuff like that.

It has to be high secure and encrypted communications or the OpFor could hack and use it.

MilSpec is a world of it's own. Stuff has to endure heat, vibration, shock that military puts things through.

All adds size and weight.

128 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:50:19am

re: #91 NonNativeTexan

Unfortunately his deliberate act is public, his life is public,
so he almost has to "recover" in public. It is devastating for his
family. His marriage is not irreconcilable. I have known men
who did much worse than he and were united again with their
family. I just don't believe adultery in and of itself is a death
blow to a marriage or career.

This was not just adultery and theft of tax money. This was a systematic betrayal of his vows both to his wife and to the residents of South Carolina. He didn't just have one off in a NoTell Motel. He lied repeatedly. Ad nauseum.

I have no tolerance for adultery.

129 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:50:30am

All I can say about Sanford is, if you live by politics, then you die by politics.

I have no idea what that really means.

130 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:50:35am

re: #91 NonNativeTexan

He's been a serial liar.
I wouldn't trust him with anything I valued.

131 Ms. MacIceweasel  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:50:46am

re: #112 taxfreekiller

Its your list to defend, do your job.

It's your list. You have to prove any of it's true, before anyone has to give a damn.

132 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:50:47am

Charles, is getting up early going to become a habit?

133 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:50:52am

re: #125 rightside

Also, why are enemy combatants given constitutional protections, when they are not even citizens?

that's why they have Al-Mirandi Rights

134 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:50:56am
135 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:51:20am

re: #126 Ben Hur

BBC to prove King Arthur was no Briton

Wow.

The BBC REALLY hates its own people, culture and history.

They're making it easier for the muslims.

136 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:51:44am

re: #131 iceweasel

It's your list. You have to prove any of it's true, before anyone has to give a damn.

we all know exactly what he is referring to...it's not science

137 SummerSong  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:51:54am

re: #76 realwest
"July 2, 2005 and the two ER doctors said then that I'd only have maybe 8 months to live. I've managed to hang in there for four years!"

Cheers, Realwest!

138 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:52:12am

re: #105 Ben Hur

What is an "illegal combatant?"

Ah. I got it.

Thought you guys meant illegal aliens that serve in the military then get citizenship.

139 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:52:24am

re: #97 _RememberTonyC
Thank you - not sure about how tough I am, but I did choose the MOST agressive thereapy available to me, despite having some Oncologsts (both in NYC and down here in N.C.) tell me that I'd be in pain, fatigued and other jazz by taking it, I really wasn't ready to go, so to speak.
So the last four years have been difficult, but I'm still here, still kicking and somehow the pain isn't quite so severe today.
And I was serious about Charles and LGF. I only mentioned my cancer at first because a Cancer Counselor told me that a lot of people are embarrassed or afraid to talk about their terminal illnesses and I figured what the heck, if I talk about mine and that helps just one other person talk about his or hers, then I've done some good. Well there have been a surprising (to me) number of people who also have cancers of varying types, and other "terminal" illnesses who've talked about 'em out here and who've e-mailed me - it DOES HELP A LOT to be able to "talk" to someone about it all...takes away some of the loneliness, you know?

140 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:52:41am
141 jill e  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:52:43am

"Of the delights of this world, man cares most for sexual intercourse. He will go to any length for it-risk fortune, character, reputation, life itself." —Mark Twain

I had a boyfriend like Sanford and it's always about THEM...their fulfillment...their feelings...their needs. And in their aftermath they leave bitter girlfriends and ex-wives and very sad and mixed up children.

As Bonnie Raitt wrote, "Hey! Shut up!"

142 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:52:48am

re: #118 J.S.

Whether or not the book deal goes forward (and what the topic/theme) will be determined later this week...link here.

I just cannot see Sentinel going through with it. But, I could be wrong.

143 MikeAlv77  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:52:55am

re: #26 Ben Hur

Sounds like Clinton.

When you're married, Happy Endings are sex.

Otherwise:

The Tiny Robot that Can Crawl Through Your Veins—And Treat Your Tumors


Your welcome.

This is all part of the Zionest plot to take over the world!

///

144 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:53:57am

re: #141 jill e

"Of the delights of this world, man cares most for sexual intercourse. He will go to any length for it-risk fortune, character, reputation, life itself." —Mark Twain

I had a boyfriend like Sanford and it's always about THEM...their fulfillment...their feelings...their needs. And in their aftermath they leave bitter girlfriends and ex-wives and very sad and mixed up children.

As Bonnie Raitt wrote, "Hey! Shut up!"

Narcissism.

145 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:54:12am

re: #101 J.D. Thanks {J.D.} I surely do intend to.

146 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:54:12am

re: #139 realwest

you have a strong spirit, and an inner peace...you have won the battle already amigo

147 FrogMarch  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:54:13am

What's the "ultimate line"? A Lewinsky?

j/k

148 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:54:16am

re: #117 rightside

Speaking of our press, the washington post is now selling access to officials in this administration.

Grasping at straws, and still losing readership.

Repost from yesterday...

Speaking of being called and going off topic at the same time...
via Reihl World.

Emotion, few details, in Obama's health care pitch

ANNANDALE, Va. (AP) - President Barack Obama wanted to put a human face on his plans to overhaul health care, and a Virginia supporter did just that Wednesday. Fighting back tears, Debby Smith, 53, told Obama of her kidney cancer and her inability to obtain health insurance or hold a job.

Published: December 23, 2008

In line with President Obama’s health-care campaign and the new administration, he has directed Senator Tom Daschle to form a committee to report on health care issues important to those in Virginia.
Debby Smith will be moderating the Southwest Virginia town-hall discussion in Appalachia at Town Hall on Dec. 30 at 7 p.m. According to Smith, the information from the meeting will be reported back to Daschle to be included in his report to the President.

Anything here?
Coincidence?
Same Debby Smith?

149 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:54:21am

re: #141 jill e

I can definitely see why it's "had a boyfriend"...

150 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:54:34am

re: #128 MandyManners

This was not just adultery and theft of tax money. This was a systematic betrayal of his vows both to his wife and to the residents of South Carolina. He didn't just have one off in a NoTell Motel. He lied repeatedly. Ad nauseum.

I have no tolerance for adultery.


I understand that. I understand that sometimes adultery is something
that some marriages cannot survive. But I believe as individuals we
should not seek to oust anyone from public office for it.

151 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:54:50am

re: #133 albusteve

LOL!

You are under arrest.
You have the right not to ululate.
Anything you ululate can and will be held against you in a court of shari'a.
You have the right to detonate.
If you cannot detonate, a working bomb belt will be provided for you.
Do you understand your rights, as I have ululated them to you?

152 jvic  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:54:50am

re: #93 Jimmah

Perhaps something about creationists in public office and dishonesty going hand in hand too on too regular a basis to ignore?

No true creationist...

153 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:54:57am

re: #76 realwest

And as Mark Twain once said "it may be impolite to blow your own horn, but if you don't the music may never be played!" I'm just happy today because today is the 4th anniversary of my cancer being discovered - July 2, 2005 and the two ER doctors said then that I'd only have maybe 8 months to live. I've managed to hang in there for four years!
YEA ME!
And thank you Charles - without the community you have built here at LGF, I'm not so sure I would have made it.

That's great, rw. Are you still fighting it, or are you NED? Sorry, I haven't been following closely enough.

* - For other lizards out there, NED stands for No Evidence of Disease - in other words, in remission.

154 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:56:01am

Your Government totally out of control:

Barney Frank: Let's spend TARP profits before taxpayers can get them

When President Obama announced on June 9 that some financial institutions would be allowed to repay Troubled Asset Relief Program dollars, he said the massively expensive TARP bailout had made money for the federal government. "It is worth noting that in the first round of repayments from these [TARP recipients], the government has actually turned a profit," the president said. Indeed, TARP supporters have long held out the hope that the program might be profitable.

But now Rep. Barney Frank, the chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, has come up with a proposal to spend any TARP profits before they can be returned to the taxpayers. Last Friday, Frank introduced the "TARP for Main Street Act of 2009," a bill that would take profits from the program and immediately redirect them toward housing proposals favored by Frank and some fellow Democrats.


Congress's Travel Tab Swells

Spending by lawmakers on taxpayer-financed trips abroad has risen sharply in recent years, a Wall Street Journal analysis of travel records shows, involving everything from war-zone visits to trips to exotic spots such as the Galápagos Islands.

The spending on overseas travel is up almost tenfold since 1995, and has nearly tripled since 2001, according to the Journal analysis of 60,000 travel records. Hundreds of lawmakers traveled overseas in 2008 at a cost of about $13 million. That's a 50% jump since Democrats took control of Congress two years ago.

The cost of so-called congressional delegations, known among lawmakers as "codels," has risen nearly 70% since 2005, when an influence-peddling scandal led to a ban on travel funded by lobbyists, according to the data.


Mortgage-Rescue Plan to Cover More Borrowers

The Obama administration is expanding the number of borrowers who can refinance home loans under its housing-rescue program, an acknowledgment that more needs to be done to help people who are upside down on their mortgages.

The administration said Wednesday that borrowers with mortgages worth up to 125% of their home's value will now be eligible to refinance under its program, up from a 105% limit.

To be eligible, borrowers must be current on their mortgages and have loans owned or backed by government-controlled mortgage companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

/had enough hope and change yet?

155 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:56:22am

re: #150 NonNativeTexan

I understand that. I understand that sometimes adultery is something
that some marriages cannot survive. But I believe as individuals we
should not seek to oust anyone from public office for it.

Adultery is usually a symptom of dishonesty. Lots of folks do not think dishonest people should hold public office.

156 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:56:38am

re: #143 MikeAlv77

This is all part of the Zionest plot to take over the world!

///

I think I saw that on Phineas & Ferb, on the Disney Channel. No, wait, that was Candace's stomach they went into.

157 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:56:41am

re: #148 jcm

Hmmm very interesting... I don't have enough time to look for video though.

158 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:56:59am

re: #155 Danny

Not that it's ever made much difference...

159 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:57:20am

re: #150 NonNativeTexan

I understand that. I understand that sometimes adultery is something
that some marriages cannot survive. But I believe as individuals we
should not seek to oust anyone from public office for it.


Cheating plus using taxpayer money equals an integrity issue.

160 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:57:29am

re: #151 rightside

LOL!

You are under arrest.
You have the right not to ululate.
Anything you ululate can and will be held against you in a court of shari'a.
You have the right to detonate.
If you cannot detonate, a working bomb belt will be provided for you.
Do you understand your rights, as I have ululated them to you?

printed on little cards...in case of a misleading accent

161 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:57:36am

re: #148 jcm

Anything here?
Coincidence?
Same Debby Smith?

You mean it's rigged?

*swoon*

162 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:57:54am

Sanford is a rube, a hick, a nancy-boy.

Blubbering and snotting and boo-hooing on the TV.

Rear up on yer hind legs and be a man about it.

"Hell, yeah, I screwed her. Be screwing her still, if the money hadn't run out."

And the 'other woman'. How far Argentine temptresses have fallen. We're a long way from the glory days of the 'Argentine Firecracker' Ms. Fanny Fox. That little piece of trouble could get the head of the Ways and Means Committee to swim in the D.C. tidal pool for all the world to see.

You may brag of your modern morals and how low you've fell, but there is nothing new under the sun.

163 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:58:20am

re: #155 Danny

Adultery is usually a symptom of dishonesty. Lots of folks do not think dishonest people should hold public office.

I disagree. The male sexual urge for diversity is very strong.
It has more to do with "rising above" your natural urges than
dishonesty.

164 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:58:35am

re: #102 swamprat Thanks swamprat!

165 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:58:57am

re: #150 NonNativeTexan

I understand that. I understand that sometimes adultery is something
that some marriages cannot survive. But I believe as individuals we
should not seek to oust anyone from public office for it.

IT'S NOT THE SEX! IT'S THE LIES! THE THEFT!

How much money do you think the state spent looking for him while he was in Argentina?

166 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:59:25am

re: #163 NonNativeTexan

I would agree, if the adulterer went up to his husband/wife and said, "hey honey, I think I'll screw so-and-so today. OK with you?"

167 Jimmah  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:59:29am

re: #99 Skembo

About the same as when the MSM states that a candidate who does something shady is Republican and not when they are Democrat... It's too low for this site.

I'm not saying every creationist is dishonest, or that they have a monopoly on it, but my experience tells me that dishonesty is a basic element of the creationist 'kit'. Their fantasy version of reality cannot stand up to an honest open critical appraisal, and when it is knocked down by facts and reason, they have to resort to dishonest tactics - twisting the words of their opponents, lying about sources etc, in order to keep their illusions afloat, at least in their own minds. We've seen this demonstrated time and again on threads here that deal with creationism. It is no surprise to me when creationists in public office are also dishonest, and there is nothing 'low' about acknowledging it.

168 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:59:33am

re: #163 NonNativeTexan

I disagree. The male sexual urge for diversity is very strong.
It has more to do with "rising above" your natural urges than
dishonesty.

Or as a (now deceased) priest told me once, "overcoming our lower nature".

169 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:00:18am

re: #108 jcm Ah well hell, 4 seems to be a lucky number (at least for me - see my #76) so maybe you'll get to take Independence Day itself off!

170 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:00:20am

re: #165 MandyManners

The why all this focus on the sex?

171 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:00:30am

If it was easy nobody would be a shithead

172 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:00:38am

re: #161 MandyManners

You mean it's rigged?

*swoon*

Rigged Perish the thought!

But lets see a Debby Smith in that part of Virginia is a (D) operative, the a Debby Smith is the emotional high point of Obama's sales pitch for Health (S)care.

Pardon me if I'm just a tad cynical.

173 laZardo  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:00:56am

Evening folks.

There's a new coop oil venture in Africa between Nigerian National Petroleum and Russia's Gazprom. Get ready for "gas wit' attitude."

/I'm not making this up

174 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:01:09am

re: #163 NonNativeTexan

I disagree. The male sexual urge for diversity is very strong.
It has more to do with "rising above" your natural urges than
dishonesty.

Oh, you're whipping *that* out?

How next will you excuse his breaking his vows to his wife?

175 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:01:19am

re: #163 NonNativeTexan

I disagree. The male sexual urge for diversity is very strong.
It has more to do with "rising above" your natural urges than
dishonesty.

176 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:01:26am

re: #169 realwest

Ah well hell, 4 seems to be a lucky number (at least for me - see my #76) so maybe you'll get to take Independence Day itself off!

Wife has to work, PT in a care facility.
Saturday's are Mr. Mom day!

177 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:01:31am

Well this just goes to show that you can be a creationist and not a godly person.

178 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:01:33am

re: #163 NonNativeTexan

I disagree. The male sexual urge for diversity is very strong.
It has more to do with "rising above" your natural urges than
dishonesty.

And, MEN AREN'T THE ONLY ONES WHO LIKE VARIETY!

179 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:01:37am

re: #139 realwest

You're a good man real. Oh, morning all. Yeah I must say I felt Sanford's original apology to be heart felt, now I kind of think the guy is a lying sack o shit. Hey, what about them dems? Man they love to travel on the taxpayers dime, up 50% since they took control. They must not have a guilty conscience about contributing to Gorbal warming - hypocrites. Watching Hannity last night I got the impression that O supported the ex Honduran President, anybody know anything about that?

180 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:01:40am
181 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:02:08am

re: #172 jcm

Rigged Perish the thought!

But lets see a Debby Smith in that part of Virginia is a (D) operative, the a Debby Smith is the emotional high point of Obama's sales pitch for Health (S)care.

Pardon me if I'm just a tad cynical.

I wonder if Helen Thomas knows about her.

182 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:02:12am

re: #163 NonNativeTexan

I disagree. The male sexual urge for diversity is very strong.
It has more to do with "rising above" your natural urges than
dishonesty.

Oh please.

183 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:02:21am

re: #168 Ward Cleaver

Or as a (now deceased) priest told me once, "overcoming our lower nature".

Yea, that "lower nature" makes a lot of poor decisions ... no brains down there.

/

184 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:02:35am

re: #173 laZardo

Yeah, saw that a few days ago. Now if Nigaz would just merge with Plee-Zambia, we would have "Nigaz-PleeZ"

185 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:02:51am

re: #174 MandyManners

Oh, you're whipping *that* out?

How next will you excuse his breaking his vows to his wife?

Just think if Sanford could have avoided that.

/

186 ellem  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:02:59am

I hate to bring this up... who gives a shit?

187 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:03:08am

Hullo. It's Thursday. I can't say I'm feeling chipper today, or at all interested in the Independence Day weekend. I think all I want to do this weekend is sleep.

188 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:03:16am

re: #174 MandyManners

Oh, you're whipping *that* out?

How next will you excuse his breaking his vows to his wife?

I do not excuse his behavior, but sexual desire is very strong and
almost every man wrestles with it.

189 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:03:29am
190 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:03:56am

re: #185 OldLineTexan

Just think if Sanford could have avoided that.

/

He could have. He chose to do the opposite.

191 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:04:11am

re: #177 dapperdave

Well this just goes to show that you can be a creationist and not a godly person.

Has that ever been in question? It's been going on for two millennia as far as Christians go.

192 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:04:15am
193 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:04:19am

re: #188 NonNativeTexan

I do not excuse his behavior, but sexual desire is very strong and
almost every man wrestles with it.

Wrestle with it while watching porn online.

That works.

194 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:04:37am
195 whiterasta  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:04:47am

Guilty of thinking with the wrong head.

196 LFGEnder  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:04:52am

Was the title "creationist" really necessary? What does it add to the post?

197 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:04:53am

re: #188 NonNativeTexan

I do not excuse his behavior, but sexual desire is very strong and
almost every man wrestles with it.

It's not as if he was walking down the street, tripped, fell down and wound up with his penis where it didn't belong. HE CHOSE TO DO WHAT HE DID.

198 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:04:56am

Check out the forecast for today here. A wonderful Octoberish day.

Cloudy, cloudy, cloudy, cloudy, cloudy ...

199 laZardo  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:02am

re: #184 Danny

"Straight Outta Lagos!"

200 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:07am

re: #122 jamgarr

Good on you real. I got my diagnosis a couple of weeks ago but it's "only" early prostate cancer - no hill for a climber.


Whoa, early stage? That's good news - well, considering that you have it at all. Mine was discovered when my PSA level was 1100 and the tumor had broken through the sack; y'all need to get with a urologist and an Oncologist - there's a more recent surgical technique than the Davinci Robotic method and it's a ONE DAY stay at the hospital and has had incredible results - something like 95% success rate - but DO NOT WAIT my friend.
And good luck to you, too. BTW, my nic's in blue if you'd like to chat any about it.

201 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:10am

re: #187 vxbush

Hullo. It's Thursday. I can't say I'm feeling chipper today, or at all interested in the Independence Day weekend. I think all I want to do this weekend is sleep.

No fireworks this year ... too dry.

The neighbor and I are going to make a slightly burnt offering of steaks.

202 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:16am
203 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:32am

re: #186 ellem

I hate to bring this up... who gives a shit?

Charles does or else he would not have started this thread.

204 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:34am

re: #180 taxfreekiller

real wrote a book, interesting. Hey tfk, did you change your posting style or has it always been so abbreviated? I seem to remember you elaborating more, seems like you have taken on the Ben Hur approach.

205 Jimmah  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:35am

re: #123 iceweasel

The awesome thing about some religions, for sociopaths and narcissists, is that they can always feel that whatever happens is always part of God's special plan for them and God has his eye fixed on them and only them.

These are the kind of people (sociopaths and narcissists) who can read about an earthquake around the world that killed tens of thousands of people, and somehow find in it only the message that god loves them and only them.

Very true. One particularly awful example that brought to mind for me was the mosque that was left standing amid scenes of widespread carnage following an earthquake "by the grace of Allah, the most merciful".

206 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:48am
207 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:49am

re: #196 LFGEnder

Was the title "creationist" really necessary? What does it add to the post?

interactive titles...you make whatever you want of it...pretty cool eh?

208 CynicalConservative  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:50am

re: #196 LFGEnder

Interesting first post after more than a year...

209 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:06:10am

re: #189 taxfreekiller

Can you point me to a news article, I can't seem to find any references this AM.

210 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:06:26am

re: #200 realwest

You guys hang in there ... since my uncle had prostate cancer, and my Dad's PSAs are elevated, I have been using the urologist as my primary physician!

211 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:06:38am
212 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:06:58am

re: #188 NonNativeTexan

You got that right! We should make all them temptress women wear burkas!

/

213 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:07:05am

re: #137 SummerSong Thank you and CHEERS is right!

214 dapperdave  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:07:06am

Congratulations Realwest, that's great news!

215 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:07:11am

re: #200 realwest

Already looking into DaVinci. Probably get cut in a few weeks. I'll e-mail you.

216 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:07:36am
217 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:08:15am

re: #188 NonNativeTexan

I do not excuse his behavior, but sexual desire is very strong and
almost every man wrestles with it.

My friend, if you think that desire is very strong for men; well...you just split that little lady off from her herd, where she's not worried about her friends and neighbors seeing her.

You'll see some 'strong desire' like you only dreamed about, aforehand.

Anyways. That's what I hear.

218 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:08:27am

re: #187 vxbush

Hullo. It's Thursday. I can't say I'm feeling chipper today, or at all interested in the Independence Day weekend. I think all I want to do this weekend is sleep.

What's up vx?

219 laZardo  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:08:50am

Sorry I have to duck out so quickly, gotta rest from a fever I caught. Cheers.

220 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:08:51am

Sanford: Shut. Your. Trap. And. Go. Away.

Now is not the time to open up and be honest and forthcoming, that already passed. Now is the time to shaddup while you take your medicine.

221 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:09:08am

re: #139 realwest

Thank you - not sure about how tough I am, but I did choose the MOST agressive thereapy available to me, despite having some Oncologsts (both in NYC and down here in N.C.) tell me that I'd be in pain, fatigued and other jazz by taking it, I really wasn't ready to go, so to speak.
So the last four years have been difficult, but I'm still here, still kicking and somehow the pain isn't quite so severe today.
And I was serious about Charles and LGF. I only mentioned my cancer at first because a Cancer Counselor told me that a lot of people are embarrassed or afraid to talk about their terminal illnesses and I figured what the heck, if I talk about mine and that helps just one other person talk about his or hers, then I've done some good. Well there have been a surprising (to me) number of people who also have cancers of varying types, and other "terminal" illnesses who've talked about 'em out here and who've e-mailed me - it DOES HELP A LOT to be able to "talk" to someone about it all...takes away some of the loneliness, you know?

Brother, you'll never be lonely here. LGF is a special place. I have plenty of people in my life. Beautiful wife, kids, friends, co-workers. I am blessed. But I still come here almost every day. And it should be obvious why. The mindset of this community is incredible. People from all over the US and the world. Rightminded folks who care about much more than just themselves. We all owe Charles a great debt of gratitude. And our good vibe towards each other is a great emotional lift for all of us. But I guess I don't need to tell YOU that!

222 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:09:09am

re: #146 albusteve Well thank you my friend, don't know about the strong spirit, but I don't exactly have "inner peace" - every damn day is a fight. But I'll take it over the (currently) only known alternative.
I refuse to go peacefully into that good night.

223 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:09:41am
224 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:10:07am

re: #219 laZardo

Sorry I have to duck out so quickly, gotta rest from a fever I caught. Cheers.

Get better soon!

225 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:10:31am

re: #208 CynicalConservative

Interesting first post after more than a year...

How many years is that in creationist time?

226 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:10:45am

re: #212 Danny

You got that right! We should make all them temptress women wear burkas!

/

I did notice the sarc tag. But I wanted to ensure that people know
that the fault is the man's and his inability to act morally, not
the woman fault for being attractive.

227 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:11:24am

re: #226 NonNativeTexan

I did notice the sarc tag. But I wanted to ensure that people know
that the fault is the man's and his inability to act morally, not
the woman fault for being attractive.

YA' THINK?

228 CynicalConservative  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:11:26am

re: #225 jcm

How many years is that in creationist time?

dunno, higher math is lost on me.

229 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:11:50am

re: #153 Ward Cleaver Hi Ward. No, it's actually been getting more aggressive lately so I'm still fighting it.
Suspect that by the end of this year it'll be radiation treatment for me. But that's just a guess on my and my oncologist's part.

230 FrogMarch  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:12:14am

re: #154 Killian Bundy

Barney Frank is the epitome of an economic illiterate.
and he's in charge.

231 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:12:18am

re: #223 taxfreekiller

some days I work about 200 blogs with my 200 ID's
have lots of personality profiles

Bwahahaha! Dayum! Now I've gone and hit the old + button twice in two days.

I'm getting plumb generous in my dotage.

232 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:12:19am

re: #218 turn

What's up vx?

Not me. I'm exhausted. I have no energy whatsoever.

233 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:12:23am
234 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:12:29am

re: #196 LFGEnder

ha, one comment in over a year and already minus on the karma. smackdown coming.

235 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:12:30am

re: #226 NonNativeTexan

I did notice the sarc tag. But I wanted to ensure that people know
that the fault is the man's and his inability to act morally, not
the woman fault for being attractive.

Ding!

You (I) DECIDED how we act.
If we are faithful to our vows.
If we keep the zipper zip.

236 The Hoopster  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:12:38am

Good Moirning Lizards!
Hope is everyone today? I drank one of those 5 hour energy drinks this morning..Dang they work...If I ramble too much just tell me to shut up..:)

237 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:12:38am

re: #228 CynicalConservative

dunno, higher math is lost on me.

I find it helps to take off your socks and shoes.

238 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:12:58am

re: #217 razorbacker

In general, the male sexual urge is stronger than the female.
No, not every man or every woman, but in general.

239 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:13:10am

re: #188 NonNativeTexan

I do not excuse his behavior, but sexual desire is very strong and
almost every man wrestles with it.

Do men see Mark Sanford in the mirror?

Or is it because maybe, just maybe, there's a tiny bit of Mark Sanford in, if not all men, quite a few of them?

Have you read this?

240 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:13:25am

re: #238 NonNativeTexan

In general, the male sexual urge is stronger than the female.
No, not every man or every woman, but in general.

So what?

241 notutopia  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:13:37am

From all his statements, which have been too many, it is clear to see that Gov. Sanford has clear relationship boundary issues and he is very unhappy within himself in general.
For the sake of his position, he is digging himself a deeper hole of incredibility with every moral confession he makes.

/ And this from a born-again christian! /
There are no legal laws that prevent him from having sex with another outside his marriage.
He needs to become a born-again Governor! and stop making these ridiculous media releases about his lust life.

I guess the days of requiring a level of the highest personal integrity as a character requirement to fill a public office, are long gone.

*sigh*

242 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:13:49am

re: #154 Killian Bundy
Hey Killian - excellent comment and links. Thanks. Anyone ask the Demcrats about CRA lately?

243 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:14:16am

re: #236 HoosierHoops

Good Moirning Lizards!
Hope is everyone today? I drank one of those 5 hour energy drinks this morning..Dang they work...If I ramble too much just tell me to shut up..:)

Hey 2H. Ramble away. :)

244 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:14:22am

re: #241 notutopia

Media as therapist.

245 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:14:53am

re: #236 HoosierHoops

Good Moirning Lizards!
Hope is everyone today? I drank one of those 5 hour energy drinks this morning..Dang they work...If I ramble too much just tell me to shut up..:)

Maybe that's what I need.

246 Ms. MacIceweasel  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:16:30am

re: #238 NonNativeTexan

In general, the male sexual urge is stronger than the female.
No, not every man or every woman, but in general.

I don't buy that. It depends on the women. And the men they're with. (or women!)

247 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:16:31am

re: #236 HoosierHoops

Good Moirning Lizards!
Hope is everyone today? I drank one of those 5 hour energy drinks this morning..Dang they work...If I ramble too much just tell me to shut up..:)

Hey Hoosier ... Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva to the Pistons. Joining Rip Hamilton. Maybe they'll hire Jim Calhoun as their head coach!

248 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:16:35am

re: #244 jcm

Media as therapist.

he'll reform then have his own Mr. Mark TV show for out of control horny men...he'll make millions, but first he needs this airtime for the set up

249 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:16:36am

Gibbs said judging Obama.

Payrolls Fall More Than Forecast, Unemployment Rises

July 2 (Bloomberg) -- Employers in the U.S. cut 467,000 jobs in June, the unemployment rate rose and hourly earnings stagnated, offering little evidence the Obama administration’s stimulus package is shoring up the labor market.
250 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:16:57am

re: #241 notutopia

From all his statements, which have been too many, it is clear to see that Gov. Sanford has clear relationship boundary issues and he is very unhappy within himself in general.
For the sake of his position, he is digging himself a deeper hole of incredibility with every moral confession he makes.

/ And this from a born-again christian! /
There are no legal laws that prevent him from having sex with another outside his marriage.
He needs to become a born-again Governor! and stop making these ridiculous media releases about his lust life.

I guess the days of requiring a level of the highest personal integrity as a character requirement to fill a public office, are long gone.

*sigh*

Oh, you got that right.

251 Jimmah  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:16:59am

The legendary 'My Bloody Valentine', with a live version of the song "Honeypower". Very unique guitar sound on this - it actually sounds like there is a young stegosaurus being tortured on the stage.

252 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:17:36am

re: #232 vxbush

Not me. I'm exhausted. I have no energy whatsoever.

Go for a long walk, that will help perk you up. If I could send Luke with ya that would really get you going, either that or very annoyed.

253 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:17:38am

re: #180 taxfreekiller
Hey thanks TFK! I appreciate it very much - how many more autographs do y'all have to get!

254 The Hoopster  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:17:53am

re: #245 vxbush

Maybe that's what I need.

Good Morning VX...
It seems to work...I'm blogging, Reading email, cruising the net and watching the network sitescope Monitor...You'd have to knock me out to get me to sleep right now..weee...
oh..And I'm bored...wierd huh?

255 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:18:19am

re: #253 realwest

I hope you have many more anniversaries!

256 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:18:30am

re: #238 NonNativeTexan

In general, the male sexual urge is stronger than the female.
No, not every man or every woman, but in general.

Sooo, what are you saying? All these men are forcing their unwanted attentions on these delicate flowers of womanhood? Or maybe that all these randy fellows are flitting about the same flower of womanhood?

Looks to me like that girl would be getting tired, by now.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking that male urge to procreate is stronger than the female. Or that sex is something that men enjoy but women endure.

257 rumcrook  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:18:38am

the way this guy is yammering on now, its like he popped the top on crazyville. and all the crazyiness is climbing out and running around with its pants down.

there is something to be said for saying less and taking a hike

258 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:18:45am

re: #226 NonNativeTexan

I suspected you thought that way. My post was meant to show the close proximity of the "men struggle" rationale to the mindset of folks who actually believe my sarcastic suggestion.

259 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:18:54am

re: #251 Jimmah

The legendary 'My Bloody Valentine', with a live version of the song "Honeypower". Very unique guitar sound on this - it actually sounds like there is a young stegosaurus being tortured on the stage.


[Video]

Wow, I've never heard a young stegosaurus before. Or an old one, for that matter.

260 nyc redneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:19:04am

sanford is so irresponsible. crying and moaning. the blubbering has to stop.
he is a such a self centered slob. look how he is embarrassing his sons, his wife, the citizens of his state and himself.
he's a girly man, yuk.
this is what we get, a new victim class of the of the cheating married man who can't get over his deep love of his mistress soul mate and so now he needs to go on omprah and bore us all to death w/ his new age sensitivity.
i could never be attracted to a wimp like this guy.

261 notutopia  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:19:15am

re: #244 jcm

Yes. That is exactly what he is using the media as.
And, reciprocally by print, US.
He obviously has more boundary issues than whats been exposed with this relationship. I hope he finds a good therapist fast that will also show him some other healthy ways to cope, other than digging.

262 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:19:36am

re: #252 turn

Go for a long walk, that will help perk you up. If I could send Luke with ya that would really get you going, either that or very annoyed.

No, it's not that kind of exhaustion. Walking just makes it worse.

263 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:19:37am

I am familiar with the theory that men are somehow wired to want to spread their seed all over the place but, that does not excuse them if they take vows to cleave to one woman.

264 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:20:11am

re: #256 razorbacker

Sooo, what are you saying? All these men are forcing their unwanted attentions on these delicate flowers of womanhood? Or maybe that all these randy fellows are flitting about the same flower of womanhood?

Looks to me like that girl would be getting tired, by now.

Don't fall into the trap of thinking that male urge to procreate is stronger than the female. Or that sex is something that men enjoy but women endure.

w00t

265 The Hoopster  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:20:42am

re: #247 _RememberTonyC

Hey Hoosier ... Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva to the Pistons. Joining Rip Hamilton. Maybe they'll hire Jim Calhoun as their head coach!

I like the move.. Freeing up cap space from the Iverson trade is paying off for them...They need a good point though..Billups is a great point as his Denver play showed...( and a ring )

266 Land Shark  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:21:06am

Amazing how the media keeps pumping up this story and the Michael Jackson thing. Great cover for the Obamacracy to pass the biggest tax ever on the nation (cap and trade), the health care scam, Iran (nukes n's missiles), Honduras, North Korea (more nukes n' missiles) and the fact the Democrats now have a filibuster proof supra majority and thus own this depression we're in (yes, depression). I'm convinced unemployment will pass 10% before the end of summer on it's way to wherever it's going (20%?). Can you say United States, third world country?

But hey, when is that Michael Jackson funeral and who's getting custody of the freak's kids, did you hear Joe Jackson, the kid's mother and Bubbles the chimp got left out? Now that's the important stuff!

///

267 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:21:11am

re: #210 OldLineTexan
Wished I'd been smart enough to use my urologist as a primary care physician! But you also ought to consider throwing in an oncologist once in a while, too.

268 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:21:21am

re: #223 taxfreekiller

some days I work about 200 blogs with my 200 ID's
have lots of personality profiles

wow, I didn't know that. 200 blogs? That's incredible. multiple personalities - ha. Well I have to be honest with ya, I haven't been able to figure out what you are cryptically referring to very often. I"m sure others here have, but I'm having a difficult time lately.

269 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:21:25am

re: #257 rumcrook

the way this guy is yammering on now, its like he popped the top on crazyville. and all the crazyiness is climbing out and running around with its pants down.

there is something to be said for saying less and taking a hike

That's one way to say "shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down".

270 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:21:31am

re: #237 MandyManners

I find it helps to take off your socks and shoes.

Sanford can get to twenty-one in Argentina.

/

271 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:21:37am

re: #256 razorbacker


Don't fall into the trap of thinking that male urge to procreate is stronger than the female. Or that sex is something that men enjoy but women endure.

Fortnately for me, you're right. :D

272 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:21:44am

Just posted in the spin-offs:

The Widening Divide Among Iran’s Clerics
(Commentary posted today on Tehran Bureau)

Demonstrations in the street, and their suppression, are tactical.
This is strategic.

273 notutopia  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:22:19am

re: #263 MandyManners

I agree. What happened to legal seperation? That's what it's there for.

274 jill e  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:22:24am

More on Obama's "Exhibit A" at his town hall yesterday:

President Barack Obama wanted to put a human face on his plans to overhaul health care, and a Virginia supporter did just that Wednesday. Fighting back tears, Debby Smith, 53, told Obama of her kidney cancer and her inability to obtain health insurance or hold a job.

The president hugged her--she's a volunteer for his political operation--and called her "exhibit A" in an unsustainable system that is too expensive and complex for millions of Americans. ...

Smith, of Appalachia, Va., is a volunteer for Organizing for America, Obama's political operation within the Democratic National Committee. She obtained her ticket through the White House.

275 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:22:26am

re: #226 NonNativeTexan

I did notice the sarc tag. But I wanted to ensure that people know
that the fault is the man's and his inability to act morally, not
the woman fault for being attractive.

The ONLY people who think that way are sexist pigs.

276 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:22:29am

re: #267 realwest

Wished I'd been smart enough to use my urologist as a primary care physician! But you also ought to consider throwing in an oncologist once in a while, too.

The day that PSA looks the least bit odd will find me at the Medical Center in Houston.

277 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:22:46am

re: #270 OldLineTexan

Sanford can get to twenty-one in Argentina.

/

I thought it was 23.

278 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:23:29am

re: #236 HoosierHoops

Good Moirning Lizards!
Hope is everyone today? I drank one of those 5 hour energy drinks this morning..Dang they work...If I ramble too much just tell me to shut up..:)

Morning hoops, hey hand one of those over to vx.

279 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:23:54am

re: #251 Jimmah

The legendary 'My Bloody Valentine', with a live version of the song "Honeypower". Very unique guitar sound on this - it actually sounds like there is a young stegosaurus being tortured on the stage.

Youtube Video

You're over 6,000 years old, I presume.

//

280 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:23:54am

re: #215 jamgarr WAIT! There is an improved version of Davinci - can't remember the damn name of it cause I'm not eleigible for surgery, but it's MUCH better than Davinci - safer too. PLEASE talk to your doctor about it and then talk to a urologist (they are all - urologoists, I mean - surgeons too) - there is something better than the Davinci Robotic surgery, although it is also robotic!

281 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:24:08am

re: #273 notutopia

I agree. What happened to legal seperation? That's what it's there for.

To me, it would still be adultery to do the deed with someone else but, that's a moral distinction and not a legal distinction.

282 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:24:45am

re: #277 MandyManners

I thought it was 23.

Technically, those aren't digits, and if you can get a good look at them while you're counting 21 ... well ...

283 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:25:18am

re: #221 _RememberTonyC

Brother, you'll never be lonely here. LGF is a special place. I have plenty of people in my life. Beautiful wife, kids, friends, co-workers. I am blessed. But I still come here almost every day. And it should be obvious why. The mindset of this community is incredible. People from all over the US and the world. Rightminded folks who care about much more than just themselves. We all owe Charles a great debt of gratitude. And our good vibe towards each other is a great emotional lift for all of us. But I guess I don't need to tell YOU that!


AMEN and again, thank you Charles.

284 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:25:56am

re: #282 OldLineTexan

Technically, those aren't digits, and if you can get a good look at them while you're counting 21 ... well ...

BTW, I predict he'll be back down to 21 or even 20 by the time this is over.

285 Ateam  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:26:02am

re: #144 MandyManners

Narcissism.

Biology? Evolved Behavior structures? Incompleteness of motherhood sense?

286 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:26:17am

re: #238 NonNativeTexan

In general, the male sexual urge is stronger than the female.
No, not every man or every woman, but in general.

At a given age, yes I would agree. The female sexual urge seems to peak around thirty with the male sexual urge peaking - well come to think about it - it's pretty much constant. ha

287 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:26:33am

re: #280 realwest

I have my second opinion appointment on Thursday. I have time to make sure that I know what I'm doing before I pull the trigger. I appreciate your concern.

288 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:26:47am

my take...it's not about hard wired seed spreading, it's about giving your word and living with it...all the babble and analysis is secondary tripe...integrity and honor are supposed to mean something and when they don't you will not find the reason in a book...it is in your heart

289 notutopia  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:27:32am

re: #266 Land Shark

Personnaly, I think you didn't need the sarc tags.
:) You're right, this is all just cannon fodder and smoke screen news.

290 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:27:55am

re: #236 HoosierHoops
Hey there Hoops! Don't worry, we'll tell ya to shut up if you get to be too rambling or incoherent! LOL!

291 Jimmah  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:28:44am

I take environmental issues seriously, but this is hilarious all the same(it's really more about the perils of having a tacky girlfriend) :

Dave Angel: Eco Warrior

292 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:28:59am

re: #285 Ateam

Biology? Evolved Behavior structures? Incompleteness of motherhood sense?

Nope. Look at the post to which I was responding:

I had a boyfriend like Sanford and it's always about THEM...their fulfillment...their feelings...their needs.

That's a sick ego.

293 Ojoe  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:29:17am

but never crossed the ultimate line went down the ultimate hole.”


The whole spectacle is disgusting. Everybody get a life.

294 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:29:21am

Chicks cheat more than men.

295 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:30:07am

A good piece on the diminished dinnerjacket.

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

296 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:30:19am

re: #294 Ben Hur

Chicks cheat more than men.

We're not talking about barnyard behavior.

297 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:30:23am

two day old news is not selling these days...


[Link: www.google.com...]

298 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:30:47am

Bad news in Seattle...

Boeing's March out of the State continues.

Report: Boeing in talks to buy second Dreamliner plant

Could South Carolina soon be home to a second Boeing Dreamliner final assembly plant?

There are reports that Boeing is in talks to buy a plant in that state.

The (D) dipsticks in Olympia better wake up and realize WA is not friendly to business PDQ or our economic woes which are per capita as bad as CA will only get worse.

299 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:31:07am

re: #239 Ben Hur It's a crock Ben. Men are responsible for their own actions. If a man can't keep true to his marriage vows, that's HIS fault, not mine or the fault of any other men.
Sanford is an immature, egomanical POS. Period.
He is NOT representative of all Men by any stretch of the imagination.

300 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:31:30am

re: #265 HoosierHoops

I like the move.. Freeing up cap space from the Iverson trade is paying off for them...They need a good point though..Billups is a great point as his Denver play showed...( and a ring )

good PGs are hard to find ...

301 notutopia  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:31:50am

re: #293 Ojoe

I have a life. Sanford needs to find his and NOT at the expense of the taxpayers he has disappointed.

302 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:31:59am

He's bragging.

303 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:07am

re: #263 MandyManners

I am familiar with the theory that men are somehow wired to want to spread their seed all over the place but, that does not excuse them if they take vows to cleave to one woman.

Oh, that's what you meant with the so what. I agree.

304 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:14am

I'd like to stay and chat, but I have indexes to fix. Later.

305 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:25am

re: #301 notutopia

I have a life. Sanford needs to find his and NOT at the expense of the taxpayers he has disappointed.

How much did the state spend looking for him?

306 Ojoe  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:28am

re: #301 notutopia

Yes.

307 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:35am

re: #297 albusteve

drip, drip, drip.

308 Jimmah  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:48am

re: #279 OldLineTexan

You're over 6,000 years old, I presume.

//

Heh. Spoken like a true creationist.

309 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:33:09am

I am sitting in a VIP lounge at the airport waiting for my flight to leave in about 3 and a half hours time. Free food, booze and net access.

Drinks on me...>
Help yourselves.

310 notutopia  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:33:11am

re: #302 Killgore Trout

He's trying to keep his position.

311 Brutus  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:33:24am

What a creep!

312 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:33:33am

re: #298 jcm

Bad news in Seattle...

Boeing's March out of the State continues.

Report: Boeing in talks to buy second Dreamliner plant

The (D) dipsticks in Olympia better wake up and realize WA is not friendly to business PDQ or our economic woes which are per capita as bad as CA will only get worse.

Yeah, Washington has really screwed up. Boeing will be gone from Washington for good soon.

313 Land Shark  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:33:35am

re: #221 _RememberTonyC

I agree wholeheartedly. One of the reasons I value LGF so much is that a certain level on intelligence and class is expected. Even though I define myself politically as a right wing conservative, I like the fact LGF is not a conservative echo chamber. Charles is a moderate/independent from what I can tell, and the various viewpoints presented here challenge me to think and analyze rather than just rant on in agreement with fellow conservatives.

314 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:33:38am

re: #245 vxbush
Good morning {vxbush} or maybe you just need to relax a bit, get some more sleep and see if you're feeling better.
My money is on that, not some souped up "energy drink" who's first ingredient, after water, is probably caffeine.

315 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:33:39am

re: #309 Erik The Red

I am sitting in a VIP lounge at the airport waiting for my flight to leave in about 3 and a half hours time. Free food, booze and net access.

Drinks on me...>
Help yourselves.

How long will the flight last?

316 avanti  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:33:48am

O.T.Possible Palin campaign poster, better then shirtless Obama IMHO./s

Runners World Palin.

317 notutopia  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:33:54am

re: #309 Erik The Red

Are you headed to the USA?

318 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:33:59am

re: #274 jill e

More on Obama's "Exhibit A" at his town hall yesterday:

President Barack Obama wanted to put a human face on his plans to overhaul health care, and a Virginia supporter did just that Wednesday. Fighting back tears, Debby Smith, 53, told Obama of her kidney cancer and her inability to obtain health insurance or hold a job.

The president hugged her--she's a volunteer for his political operation--and called her "exhibit A" in an unsustainable system that is too expensive and complex for millions of Americans. ...

Smith, of Appalachia, Va., is a volunteer for Organizing for America, Obama's political operation within the Democratic National Committee. She obtained her ticket through the White House.

* * * *
Pres. Obama had all the Virginian democrats (antisemite Rep. Jim Moran, dimwit DNC chairman (while still supposedly our full time Governor Tim Kaine), Senator Mark Warner, Rep. Gerold Connolly, etc., at his FAKE "townhall".

PS, Virginia's governor disappears each week to do DNC work, but won't release his travel records to the WashPost or anyone else, despite a Freedom of Information Request.

Our disingenuous democrat Governor says he's smarter than SC's Sanford, because while not disclosing WHERE he goes during the week, he says he ALWAYS takes a security detail. See, with a security detail tailing you, you can't possibly be doing anything sneaky or adulterous.

Bwahaha, these people are such sleazeballs.

319 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:34:15am

re: #316 avanti

"Forbidden"

320 jill e  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:34:17am

A big clue into Sanford is the fact he gave a press conference nearly EVERY day following his admission. "Look at me! I'm a dirt bag, but I'm still such a wonderful guy!"

321 The Hoopster  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:34:47am

re: #300 _RememberTonyC

good PGs are hard to find ...


And it takes a long time for them to develope floor sense..
Rondo surprised the hell out of me..So did Chris Paul...

322 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:34:58am

re: #271 Danny

Fortnately for me, you're right. :D

Women are marvelous critters who will have sex because they feel good, or feel bad, or noticed a new wrinkle in the mirror that morning, or feel expecially sexy in those new heels, or are mad at their husband/boyfriend, or think you look like their Daddy, or think that you're rich, or powerful, or pitiful, or being picked on, or dominate, or submissive, or muscular, or thin, or hairy, or clean-shaven, or atheletic, or academic, or bald, or have long flowing locks, or got on the scales and noticed that they've gained five pounds or lost five pounds, because they got a promotion at work or got fired at work, or because you can make them laugh or because you make them cry, or because you can play a guitar, or have a nice car, or wear your jeans just so, or can get them a job, or take them away from their job, or...well...you get the idea.

They just do?.

323 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:35:21am

re: #298 jcm

Bad news in Seattle...

Boeing's March out of the State continues.

Report: Boeing in talks to buy second Dreamliner plant


The (D) dipsticks in Olympia better wake up and realize WA is not friendly to business PDQ or our economic woes which are per capita as bad as CA will only get worse.

They got their bags packed!

324 Ateam  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:35:33am

re: #292 MandyManners

That's a sick ego.

And there is no sick ego among women? (without connection to sex)

325 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:35:33am

re: #314 realwest

Good morning {vxbush} or maybe you just need to relax a bit, get some more sleep and see if you're feeling better.
My money is on that, not some souped up "energy drink" who's first ingredient, after water, is probably caffeine.

quick dip back in the pool...

Real, I've been exhausted for weeks. My money is that my thyroid is giving up the ghost, but I can't seem to convince anyone. Next week I have a sonogram of my thyroid and some bloodwork done; I hope it shows something, because I may curl up in a ball and never come out again.

326 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:35:38am

re: #274 jill e

More on Obama's "Exhibit A" at his town hall yesterday:

President Barack Obama wanted to put a human face on his plans to overhaul health care, and a Virginia supporter did just that Wednesday. Fighting back tears, Debby Smith, 53, told Obama of her kidney cancer and her inability to obtain health insurance or hold a job.

The president hugged her--she's a volunteer for his political operation--and called her "exhibit A" in an unsustainable system that is too expensive and complex for millions of Americans. ...

Smith, of Appalachia, Va., is a volunteer for Organizing for America, Obama's political operation within the Democratic National Committee. She obtained her ticket through the White House.

Can you say choreographed scam?

In the stage-managed event, questions for Obama came from a live audience selected by the White House and the college, and from Internet questions chosen by the administration's new-media team. Of the seven questions the president answered, four were selected by his staff from videos submitted to the White House Web site or from those responding to a request for "tweets."

The president called randomly on three audience members. All turned out to be members of groups with close ties to his administration: the Service Employees International Union, Health Care for America Now, and Organizing for America, which is a part of the Democratic National Committee. White House officials said that was a coincidence.

/if it weren't for bull[expletive deleted], TOTUS wouldn't even exist

327 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:35:41am

re: #316 avanti

linky no worky

328 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:35:44am

re: #320 jill e

A big clue into Sanford is the fact he gave a press conference nearly EVERY day following his admission. "Look at me! I'm a dirt bag, but I'm still such a wonderful guy!"

Narcissism.

329 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:07am

re: #296 MandyManners

We're not talking about barnyard behavior.

I don't think he's going to be cowed.

330 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:12am

re: #267 realwest

Wished I'd been smart enough to use my urologist as a primary care physician! But you also ought to consider throwing in an oncologist once in a while, too.

Hey real, hang in there. I have a friend that I used to work with about ten years ago. He left for another job and I ran into him a few months after he left. He said leaving the company saved his life, his new employer sent him for a physical and they found out he had melanoma. Operated immediately and he is fine today.

331 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:12am

OT: American Soldier Captured in Afghanistan

Heaven help whomever took him. Prayers for his safe return.

332 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:14am

re: #312 Killgore Trout

Yeah, Washington has really screwed up. Boeing will be gone from Washington for good soon.

And from your neck of the woods...

Metro-area's jobless jump outpaces the nation

For a second month, Portland metro-area unemployment has jumped more in a year than in any other U.S. urban hub, outdoing even greater Detroit
333 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:19am

re: #324 Ateam

And there is no sick ego among women? (without connection to sex)

I've seen a few.

334 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:27am

re: #309 Erik The Red

I am sitting in a VIP lounge at the airport waiting for my flight to leave in about 3 and a half hours time. Free food, booze and net access.

Drinks on me...>
Help yourselves.

Country Roads, take me home,
To the place I belong:
Sunny Florida, humidity momma,
Take me home, country roads.

335 The Hoopster  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:30am

re: #309 Erik The Red

I am sitting in a VIP lounge at the airport waiting for my flight to leave in about 3 and a half hours time. Free food, booze and net access.

Drinks on me...>
Help yourselves.

Sweet! Have a safe and wonderful trip home Erik!

336 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:38am

re: #315 MandyManners

How long will the flight last?

I am in for about 30 hours of travel time. 11 hours to London, 9 hours to DC and another 2.5 to Orlando. Plus lay overs and add to that a 6 hours time difference. I am going to feel like shit by the time I arrive.

337 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:49am

re: #255 MandyManners

I hope you have many more anniversaries!


Thanks a lot Mandy, me too!

338 avanti  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:37:08am

re: #327 Mich-again

linky no worky

Try

Palin.

339 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:37:09am

I'm not going to post this in the spin-offs because people will downding it

(WashTimes exclusive) Taliban buying children for suicide bombers

Pakistan's top Taliban leader, Baitullah Mehsud, is buying children as young as 7 to serve as suicide bombers in the growing spate of attacks against Pakistani, Afghan and U.S. targets, U.S. Defense Department and Pakistani officials say.

340 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:37:11am

re: #317 notutopia

Are you headed to the USA?

Yep. Orlando.

341 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:37:17am

re: #309 Erik The Red

Bloody Mary sounds good right about now

342 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:37:26am

re: #309 Erik The Red

Welcome back, Erik.

343 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:37:26am

re: #322 razorbacker

Women are marvelous critters who will have sex because they feel good, or feel bad, or noticed a new wrinkle in the mirror that morning, or feel expecially sexy in those new heels, or are mad at their husband/boyfriend, or think you look like their Daddy, or think that you're rich, or powerful, or pitiful, or being picked on, or dominate, or submissive, or muscular, or thin, or hairy, or clean-shaven, or atheletic, or academic, or bald, or have long flowing locks, or got on the scales and noticed that they've gained five pounds or lost five pounds, because they got a promotion at work or got fired at work, or because you can make them laugh or because you make them cry, or because you can play a guitar, or have a nice car, or wear your jeans just so, or can get them a job, or take them away from their job, or...well...you get the idea.

They just do?.

We don't need any reason beyond mere horniness.

344 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:37:28am

Morning, {all y'all}

Sanford's like the fat kid in "The Goonies". When he gets captured and questioned by the bad guys, he spills his guts and confesses to every bad thing he ever did.

"And one time, I pushed my sister down the stairs..."
345 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:37:36am

re: #336 Erik The Red

I am in for about 30 hours of travel time. 11 hours to London, 9 hours to DC and another 2.5 to Orlando. Plus lay overs and add to that a 6 hours time difference. I am going to feel like shit by the time I arrive.

And probably look like it :)

346 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:37:47am

re: #324 Ateam

And there is no sick ego among women? (without connection to sex)

Where did I say that?

347 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:38:01am

re: #341 Danny

Bloody Mary sounds good right about now

Six of them sounds even better.

348 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:38:05am

re: #338 avanti

Try

Palin.

I'd vote for those gams...

349 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:38:07am

re: #320 jill e

A big clue into Sanford is the fact he gave a press conference nearly EVERY day following his admission. "Look at me! I'm a dirt bag, but I'm still such a wonderful guy!"

* * * *
As a Friend of McCain Before New Hampshire (circa 1999), perhaps Sanford is following McCain's model of being in the media's face all day, every day.

Saturate them with B.S.! Answer every question! Let it all hang out! The media will love you for it, and so on.

350 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:38:08am

re: #334 Walter L. Newton

Country Roads, take me home,
To the place I belong:
Sunny Florida, humidity momma,
Take me home, country roads.

beautiful groves of condos where everyone is over 65...

351 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:38:13am

re: #344 redstateredneck

Morning, {all y'all}

Sanford's like the fat kid in "The Goonies". When he gets captured and questioned by the bad guys, he spills his guts and confesses to every bad thing he ever did.


Hey, I'm beginnin' to like this kid

352 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:38:15am

re: #325 vxbush

quick dip back in the pool...

Real, I've been exhausted for weeks. My money is that my thyroid is giving up the ghost, but I can't seem to convince anyone. Next week I have a sonogram of my thyroid and some bloodwork done; I hope it shows something, because I may curl up in a ball and never come out again.

Synthroid. Been on it for years.

353 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:38:35am

re: #316 avanti

O.T.Possible Palin campaign poster, better then shirtless Obama IMHO./s

Runners World Palin.

That link came back "forbidden"

354 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:38:48am

re: #332 jcm

Yeah, the economy here really stinks. We've done pretty well with housing prices but that might change soon.

355 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:38:50am

re: #329 Honorary Yooper

I don't think he's going to be cowed.

Is he bull-headed?

356 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:39:17am

re: #351 jamgarr

Hey, I'm beginnin' to like this kid

One of my older daughter's favorite movies. We have annual viewings.
:D

357 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:39:41am

re: #338 avanti

Very nice photo indeed. Wow.

358 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:39:49am

re: #336 Erik The Red

I am in for about 30 hours of travel time. 11 hours to London, 9 hours to DC and another 2.5 to Orlando. Plus lay overs and add to that a 6 hours time difference. I am going to feel like shit by the time I arrive.

I hope you get the chance to sleep some.

359 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:39:59am

re: #326 Killian Bundy

/if it weren't for bull[expletive deleted], TOTUS wouldn't even exist

Hey Avanti!

You still gonna' maintain the Town Hall wasn't rigged?

360 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:40:14am

re: #356 redstateredneck

One of my older daughter's favorite movies. We have annual viewings.
:D


Love it!

Fifty Dollar Bill! Fifty Dollar Bill!

361 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:40:25am

re: #287 jamgarr Glad you have some time and sorry if I appeared to be overbearing or whatever, just trying to help!

362 kaymad  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:40:34am

"Creationist governor"? *rolls eyes*. Yes, his views on creationism has everything to do with his cheating, good catch. We know a Darwinist would never stoop so low.

363 notutopia  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:40:38am

re: #340 Erik The Red

Joy Erik! I'll toast to your safe return home!
What a wonderful Independence Day, to be back on US soil.
: )

364 CynicalConservative  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:40:46am

re: #359 jcm

Hey Avanti!

You still gonna' maintain the Town Hall wasn't rigged?

Look, something shiny!

365 The Hoopster  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:40:59am

re: #340 Erik The Red

Yep. Orlando.


You'll be close by.. It's a cheap flight to Indy.. We'll get you to the Indy 500.. Huge party..Tons of fun...

366 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:41:01am

re: #359 jcm

Hey Avanti!

You still gonna' maintain the Town Hall wasn't rigged?

Post your No. 148 again. Just for him.

367 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:41:16am

re: #288 albusteve
Spot on comment - really great. Thanks for that one my friend!

368 DistantThunder  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:41:21am

Serial adultery is one small step away from sociopathy, so said a psychologist during the Lewinksky/Jones/Flowers/Brodrick/Wiley - Clinton Scandal, although technically Clinton sexually assaulted 3 of those women - allegedly - raping one - allegedly.

President Ford Believed Clinton had a sex addiciton

Gerald Ford was disturbed by Bill Clinton's skirt-chasing ways - and thought he should check into a sex addiction clinic.
A new book on the late 38th President reveals he had strong views about the Clintons: He thought Hillary wore the pants and that Bill couldn't keep his zipped.

"He's sick - he's got an addiction. He needs treatment," Ford told Daily News Washington Bureau Chief Thomas M. DeFrank, author of "Write It When I'm Gone: Remarkable Off-the-Record Conversations with Gerald R. Ford."
Ford's wife, Betty, who founded a pioneering treatment center after her battle with alcoholism and drugs, agreed.
"You know, there's treatment for that kind of addiction," she told DeFrank during the same conversation in 1999. "A lot of men have gone through the treatment with a lot of success. But he won't do it, because he's in denial."
The Fords first got to know the Clintons in the summer of 1993, when they invited the new First Family to their home in Colorado.
Gerald Ford's impressions of the Oval Office's latest tenant were mixed. He believed Clinton was charismatic, articulate, a "helluva salesman" and the best politician he'd ever seen - even better than John F. Kennedy.

But he considered Clinton a foreign-policy wimp, and sensed that he hadn't learned from mistakes in his personal life - allegations of womanizing that dogged him during the campaign for the White House.
That opinion was based on behavior Ford witnessed the weekend he hosted the Clintons in Colorado.

"I'll tell you one thing: He didn't miss one good-looking skirt at any of the social occasions," Ford said later.

"He's got a wandering eye, I'll tell you that. Betty had the same impression; he isn't very subtle about his interest."

Nevertheless, when the Monica Lewinsky sex-and-perjury scandal erupted and barreled toward impeachment, Ford was willing to help Clinton - to a point.

More...

Clinton still gets a standing "O" almost everywhere he goes.

369 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:41:27am

re: #352 redstateredneck

Synthroid. Been on it for years.

I'd love to be on it. Unfortunately, I've got a doc who only looks at blood tests and never like to consider qualitative data. I think I'm going to have to switch doctors soon.

370 jamgarr  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:41:28am

re: #361 realwest

Glad you have some time and sorry if I appeared to be overbearing or whatever, just trying to help!

Not overbearing at all. Hope I didn't give that impression.

371 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:41:51am

re: #358 MandyManners

I hope you get the chance to sleep some.

I wish. I don't sleep well on a plane. If the flight is empty I will find a row that is free and than I will get some sleep. I am trying to get upgraded. Will only find out once I get on the plane.

372 AMER1CAN  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:42:07am

Maybe they can get Sanford on for the next season of "Dancing with the Stars" or he can go solo and do the show "So you think you can dance?"
/

373 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:42:11am

re: #325 vxbush

quick dip back in the pool...

Real, I've been exhausted for weeks. My money is that my thyroid is giving up the ghost, but I can't seem to convince anyone. Next week I have a sonogram of my thyroid and some bloodwork done; I hope it shows something, because I may curl up in a ball and never come out again.

Hey vx, are you hypoglycemic? Wouldn't hurt to have your blood sugar checked.

374 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:42:41am

re: #362 kaymad

"Creationist governor"? *rolls eyes*. Yes, his views on creationism has everything to do with his cheating, good catch. We know a Darwinist would never stoop so low.

* * * *
Sanford is just getting in touch with his inner Darwin.

375 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:42:51am

re: #312 Killgore Trout

It all started after Boeing moved their HQ to Chicago. The writing should have been on the wall at that point, but instead, WA has continued to do poorly by one of its biggest employers.

376 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:43:00am

re: #368 DistantThunder

Serial adultery is one small step away from sociopathy,

Tell me about it!

377 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:43:09am

re: #368 DistantThunder

President Ford Believed Clinton had a sex addiciton

Was he trying to drum up new business for Betty's clinic?

378 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:43:13am

re: #365 HoosierHoops

You'll be close by.. It's a cheap flight to Indy.. We'll get you to the Indy 500.. Huge party..Tons of fun...

Great. How about the Moto GP at the end of August? :)

379 vxbush  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:43:20am

re: #373 turn

Hey vx, are you hypoglycemic? Wouldn't hurt to have your blood sugar checked.

Perhaps, but my last blood test showed high normal for sugar. That was fasting. but I'm thinking about getting a glucose meter. It would be good for my hubby, too.

380 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:43:22am

re: #352 redstateredneck

Synthroid. Been on it for years.

I have too.
VX, I'm gonna suggest that you really need to see another doctor. One who will get to the bottom of this.

381 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:43:30am

re: #371 Erik The Red

I wish. I don't sleep well on a plane. If the flight is empty I will find a row that is free and than I will get some sleep. I am trying to get upgraded. Will only find out once I get on the plane.

take drugs

382 jill e  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:43:41am

re: #328 MandyManners

Narcissism.

EXACTLY! The ex-Sanfordian boyfriend I referred to, told me about a dream he had about his "soul mate" and proceeded to give me a description of a female version of HIM! By that time I was pretty much fed up, so I reminded him of Narcissus who fell in love with his own reflection in a pool of water. That gave him a momentary pause, but it was far too late...

383 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:43:48am

re: #369 vxbush

I'd love to be on it. Unfortunately, I've got a doc who only looks at blood tests and never like to consider qualitative data. I think I'm going to have to switch doctors soon.

What! Is he nuts?

384 DistantThunder  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:44:01am

re: #316 avanti

O.T.Possible Palin campaign poster, better then shirtless Obama IMHO./s

Runners World Palin.

I've read the article twice - what a woman. The pictures should send chills down the spine of every liberal - but it's ok - they have Waxman. (If ever there was a candidate for an extreme make-over...jeez...)

385 avanti  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:44:25am

re: #359 jcm

Hey Avanti!

You still gonna' maintain the Town Hall wasn't rigged?

I replied last night about the Post story and agreed that the most of the questioners in that town hall were hand picked, but not the questions according to the story. Still, not his best moment IMHO.

386 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:44:31am

re: #371 Erik The Red

I wish. I don't sleep well on a plane. If the flight is empty I will find a row that is free and than I will get some sleep. I am trying to get upgraded. Will only find out once I get on the plane.

When I flew, I coudln't sleep either. It took all of my mental concentration to keep the plane in the air.

387 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:45:03am

re: #355 MandyManners

Is he bull-headed?

Could be rooster-headed.

388 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:45:18am

re: #354 Killgore Trout

Yeah, the economy here really stinks. We've done pretty well with housing prices but that might change soon.

Portland is reaching for that bar set by Detroit...robust anti capitalism...it's a liberal dream come true

389 jill e  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:45:34am

re: #376 MandyManners

Tell me about it!

Especially when the adulterous person has young sons or daughters! Try thinking about someone other than yourself for a change!

390 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:45:37am

re: #381 albusteve

take drugs

Last time I did that on a flight I ended up with no pants on. No further detail can be recalled.

391 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:45:47am

re: #309 Erik The RedGood Lord Erik - what the hell time is it wherever you are? It's waaay too early for me to start drinking, even if I drank anymore which I don't!

392 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:45:50am

re: #374 alegrias

Sanford is just getting in touch with his inner Darwin.

LOL!

Gotta pass on those genes somehow, eh?

393 Lincolntf  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:45:55am

Morning all. I'm a bit late this morning so I assume all the news stories from this morning have already been mentioned, but I found this one irresistible.
WaPo lifts it's mask, makes some cash

394 Killian Bundy  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:08am

re: #385 avanti

not his best moment IMHO.

Well, just what is his best moment?

/the economy, foreign policy?

395 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:10am

re: #382 jill e

EXACTLY! The ex-Sanfordian boyfriend I referred to, told me about a dream he had about his "soul mate" and proceeded to give me a description of a female version of HIM! By that time I was pretty much fed up, so I reminded him of Narcissus who fell in love with his own reflection in a pool of water. That gave him a momentary pause, but it was far too late...

My skin crawled reading your post.

396 DistantThunder  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:11am

re: #386 MandyManners

When I flew, I coudln't sleep either. It took all of my mental concentration to keep the plane in the air.

Heh, me too. If we flew together, we could take turns. I could spell ya.

397 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:21am

Bolton makes sense again:
John Bolton: Israeli Attack is Only ‘Iranian Option’

U.S. President Barack Obama’s policies have left an Israeli attack on Iran the only option in preventing the Muslim country from obtaining a nuclear weapon, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations John Bolton wrote in The Washington Post Thursday.

“Tehran isn't going to negotiate in good faith,” Bolton maintained. “It hasn't [done so] for the past six years with the European Union as our surrogates, and it won't start now… Second, given Iran's nuclear progress, even if the stronger sanctions Obama has threatened could be agreed upon, they would not prevent Iran from fabricating weapons and delivery systems when it chooses, as it has been striving to do for the past 20 years. Time is too short, and sanctions failed long ago.”

398 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:42am

re: #366 MandyManners

Post your No. 148 again. Just for him.

All 3 of the following...


re: #148 jcm

Anything here?
Coincidence?
Same Debby Smith?


re: #274 jill e

More on Obama's "Exhibit A" at his town hall yesterday:

President Barack Obama wanted to put a human face on his plans to overhaul health care, and a Virginia supporter did just that Wednesday. Fighting back tears, Debby Smith, 53, told Obama of her kidney cancer and her inability to obtain health insurance or hold a job.

The president hugged her--she's a volunteer for his political operation--and called her "exhibit A" in an unsustainable system that is too expensive and complex for millions of Americans. ...

Smith, of Appalachia, Va., is a volunteer for Organizing for America, Obama's political operation within the Democratic National Committee. She obtained her ticket through the White House.


re: #326 Killian Bundy

/if it weren't for bull[expletive deleted], TOTUS wouldn't even exist

399 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:43am

re: #387 Honorary Yooper

Could be rooster-headed.

Thinks he's cock of the walk?

400 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:52am

re: #343 MandyManners

We don't need any reason beyond mere horniness.

There are more different reasons than there are different women, since a woman (or man) will have sex for different reasons at different times.

That's why it is such a relief when one gets old enough that that is no longer a driving force in life.

I hope that I live to get that old.

But like Grandpa (in his late 90s at the time) said, "Yeah, it takes me a lot longer. Hell, what else have I got to do? Ain't like they'll let me work anymore."

401 Rancher  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:54am
Sanford, like a man in love, gushes about his ‘soul mate,’ confesses to other encounters.

Is there no one who can tell this man to just STFU?

OT- From NRO

The launch of North Korea’s Taepodong-2 may take place in the next several days, and the rocket may fly perilously close to Hawaii. If it does, mobile ground-based interceptors and a sea-based radar system — recently deployed to Kauai and the waters nearby — are in position to protect Honolulu and its environs.

Will this experience give Obama second thoughts about his hostility toward missile defense? It should, but Obama’s opposition is deeply ingrained. During the presidential campaign, he pledged to slash missile-defense spending. In recent months, he has made good on his promise. His proposed budget for 2010 includes more than $1 billion in cuts. One of the main casualties is a system of interceptors in Alaska and California whose purpose is to protect the West Coast from North Korea. Obama would halt their deployment at 28 anti-ballistic missiles (ABMs), short of the 44 the Pentagon had hoped to put in place by 2011. Another victim is Airborne Laser (ABL), which seeks to mount lasers on 747s. The goal is to target the fuel casings of enemy rockets just after they’ve blasted off and to destroy them when they’re big, slow, and still over their home territories. ABL may sound like the stuff of science fiction, but the technical aspects of the project are more or less proven. To become a reality, it merely requires continued funding.

The East Coast voted heavily for Obama, lets hope they don't reap what they have sown.

402 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:58am

re: #391 realwest

Good Lord Erik - what the hell time is it wherever you are? It's waaay too early for me to start drinking, even if I drank anymore which I don't!

16h45 here. I leave at 20h20

403 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:47:08am

re: #389 jill e

Especially when the adulterous person has young sons or daughters! Try thinking about someone other than yourself for a change!

Do as I say, not as I do.

404 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:47:19am

re: #386 MandyManners

When I flew, I coudln't sleep either. It took all of my mental concentration to keep the plane in the air.

Mandy, that's about how I am too.
Even when it was my kid on the plane, not me.
LOL.

405 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:47:29am

re: #385 avanti

Still, not his best moment IMHO.

When has he had a best moment?

406 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:47:30am

re: #375 lawhawk

It all started after Boeing moved their HQ to Chicago. The writing should have been on the wall at that point, but instead, WA has continued to do poorly by one of its biggest employers.

manufacturing is messy business...get rid of them and tax the bejeezus out of whoever is left...who can say it's not intentional to drive out business?

407 The Hoopster  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:47:49am

re: #378 Erik The Red

Great. How about the Moto GP at the end of August? :)


Never seen a motorcycle race...I'll see if I can scam us some free tiks..
How is that scotch tasting right now? Smooth?

408 kaymad  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:47:53am

re: #386 MandyManners

Ha! That's me as well. Last time I flew my mom gave me something, I don't know what. I took half of whatever it was and woke-up drooling on the woman next to me. We were circling the airport due to fog. Normally I would have been in a state of panic worrying about running out of fuel or colliding with another plane, instead I simply went back to sleep.

409 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:48:11am

re: #299 realwest

That ed was a crock. Two commenters and her dad do not make a sampling of national sentiment. Her final sentence was over the top BS.

Sanford is a narcissistic asshole. The only group he represents is narcissistic assholes.

410 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:48:15am

re: #396 DistantThunder

Heh, me too. If we flew together, we could take turns. I could spell ya.

The only way I'd ever get on another plane would be if I were shot full of drugs before I even heard that I'd be flying.

411 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:48:18am

re: #386 MandyManners

When I flew, I coudln't sleep either. It took all of my mental concentration to keep the plane in the air.

ha!...good one and so true for some people

412 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:48:27am

re: #385 avanti

We never get to see a picture of President Obama smoking, but Sarah Palin is smoking in every picture they take of her. More media bias! /

413 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:48:40am

re: #407 HoosierHoops

Never seen a motorcycle race...I'll see if I can scam us some free tiks..
How is that scotch tasting right now? Smooth?

I just finished a Rum and coke. Going to the bar now for a scotch. :)

414 DistantThunder  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:48:57am

re: #397 Kosh's Shadow

Bolton makes sense again:
John Bolton: Israeli Attack is Only ‘Iranian Option’

Obama thinks Game theory is his opinion about his golf game. Instead is really means that no antagonistic country is going to give up their weapons.

415 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:48:59am

re: #388 albusteve

Portland is a very strange city. When I started working at home I was shocked to notice how few of my neighbors have jobs. A lot of young people with trust funds so they don't really need to work. High unemployment won't effect us here as much as it would elsewhere. We don't have a lot of indistry here anyways. Nike is probably our biggest employer.

416 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:49:12am

re: #369 vxbush

I'd love to be on it. Unfortunately, I've got a doc who only looks at blood tests and never like to consider qualitative data. I think I'm going to have to switch doctors soon.

I was tested so many years ago they were still using the radioactive iodine capsule test.

417 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:49:15am

re: #400 razorbacker

There are more different reasons than there are different women, since a woman (or man) will have sex for different reasons at different times.

That's why it is such a relief when one gets old enough that that is no longer a driving force in life.

I hope that I live to get that old.

But like Grandpa (in his late 90s at the time) said, "Yeah, it takes me a lot longer. Hell, what else have I got to do? Ain't like they'll let me work anymore."

LOL! Sounds like he was quite the card.

418 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:49:15am

re: #399 MandyManners

Thinks he's cock of the walk?

Sanford definately was crowing.
/in more ways than one.

419 jill e  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:49:19am

re: #395 MandyManners

My skin crawled reading your post.

I know...pretty creepy. But he was charming and gorgeous and I was naively flattered.

420 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:49:31am

re: #390 Erik The Red

Last time I did that on a flight I ended up with no pants on. No further detail can be recalled.

Ambien has that effect sometimes they say

421 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:49:46am

re: #375 lawhawk

It all started after Boeing moved their HQ to Chicago. The writing should have been on the wall at that point, but instead, WA has continued to do poorly by one of its biggest employers.

Morning LH, hey I read that the average price of a NY apartment has fallen 25% - yeah now it's down to the low low price of $1.26 mil dollars! Unbelievable what housing costs there ...

422 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:49:53am

re: #404 reine.de.tout

Mandy, that's about how I am too.
Even when it was my kid on the plane, not me.
LOL.

Pardon my ignorance but, where is she now?

423 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:50:17am

re: #405 BlueCanuck

When has he had a best moment?

Ask WAB.

424 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:50:32am

is anyone here familiar with bermuda?

425 Spider Mensch  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:50:36am

re: #371 Erik The Red

I wish. I don't sleep well on a plane. If the flight is empty I will find a row that is free and than I will get some sleep. I am trying to get upgraded. Will only find out once I get on the plane.

my last flight to germany from the east coast. left on a friday evening, had gotten up that friday morning at 6am, worked all day, 7pm flight to frankfurt. half hour sleep , maybe, on the flight (little spider between me and the wife). arrived frankfurt about 8am next morning. picked up rental car. drove six hours down to Austria with wife and baby to inlaws. How the hell I did it, I can't tell you...I guess adrenaline..

426 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:50:54am

re: #423 MandyManners

Ask WAB.

Ummm, I take the 5th? :)

427 CynicalConservative  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:50:55am

re: #415 Killgore Trout

Portland is a very strange city. When I started working at home I was shocked to notice how few of my neighbors have jobs. A lot of young people with trust funds so they don't really need to work. High unemployment won't effect us here as much as it would elsewhere. We don't have a lot of indistry here anyways. Nike is probably our biggest employer.

or Intel

428 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:51:06am

re: #385 avanti

I replied last night about the Post story and agreed that the most of the questioners in that town hall were hand picked, but not the questions according to the story. Still, not his best moment IMHO.

It is snake oil.

The media was all over he "emotional" moment with Debbie Smith.

She's a (D) operative who got invited through the WH.

Obama is trying to sell the largest government takeover of private sector business in history and he is using BULLSHIT to do it, and saying we have to DO IT NOW!

You may not like like but it's all consistent with his mentors teachings.

429 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:51:15am

re: #325 vxbush
Gee my friend "I've been exhausted for weeks. My money is that my thyroid is giving up the ghost, but I can't seem to convince anyone. Next week I have a sonogram of my thyroid and some blood work done;"
If y'all can't seem to convince someone, then who ordered up the blood work and the sonogram of your thyroid gland?
And if you're dissatisfied with your doctor, go find an endocrinologist ASAP - that's the kind of thing they specialize in!

430 The Hoopster  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:51:17am

re: #413 Erik The Red

I just finished a Rum and coke. Going to the bar now for a scotch. :)

If today was sunny, I'd be on the golf course drinking bud light and saying 4 letter words...
So the lizards are stuck with me here...sorry

431 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:51:36am

re: #408 kaymad

Ha! That's me as well. Last time I flew my mom gave me something, I don't know what. I took half of whatever it was and woke-up drooling on the woman next to me. We were circling the airport due to fog. Normally I would have been in a state of panic worrying about running out of fuel or colliding with another plane, instead I simply went back to sleep.

When I was in school in Seattle, my mother would mail Tranxene to me so that I could get to Denver. It knocked off the edges.

432 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:51:46am

re: #422 MandyManners

Pardon my ignorance but, where is she now?

safe and sound at home.
I'm sure, due to my diligence is using my mental abilities to keep the planes in the air.

433 Jimmah  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:51:50am

re: #126 Ben Hur

BBC to prove King Arthur was no Briton

Wow.

The BBC REALLY hates its own people, culture and history.

I don't think many people in the UK outside of the BNP would give a shit about this one way or another, and with good reason. Britain was invaded several times, William the Conqueror - William the first of England - was a Frenchie, after all. In any case, Arthur is now generally seen as a legendary figure, not a historical figure.

434 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:52:27am

re: #430 HoosierHoops

If today was sunny, I'd be on the golf course drinking bud light and saying 4 letter words...
So the lizards are stuck with me here...sorry

I would be saying four letter words too if I was drinking bud light. ;)

435 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:52:37am

re: #320 jill e

A big clue into Sanford is the fact he gave a press conference nearly EVERY day following his admission. "Look at me! I'm a dirt bag, but I'm still such a wonderful guy!"

"Hey, I'm being open and honest (now, not before). I feel horrible and am full of regret, I'm in pain, I love my wife, I, I, I,...)

If he truly cared about his wife, his state, or his party, he'd have shut the hell up once the gig was out and suffered his lumps. But he can't stop.

436 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:52:38am

re: #411 albusteve

ha!...good one and so true for some people

I once dated the son of a Boeing engineer and he took a long time to explain to me how flight is possible. When he was done, I just said, "Magic".

437 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:52:50am

re: #163 NonNativeTexan

I disagree. The male sexual urge for diversity is very strong.
It has more to do with "rising above" your natural urges than
dishonesty.

Humans do a lot of things against their "natural urges".
Like brush their teeth...

438 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:53:18am

re: #321 HoosierHoops

And it takes a long time for them to develope floor sense..
Rondo surprised the hell out of me..So did Chris Paul...

CP3 is special, for sure. Rondo may be on his way out in Boston. Some of his veteran teammates don't like him very much. And Doc and RR frequently are at odds. Boston is downplaying it, but something is up. One young PG who is very solid is Devin Harris. Dallas should have never traded him for J-Kidd. It was a panic move by Mark Cuban. Devin is also a great kid. We had lunch a few weeks ago when he visited our office and I was super impressed.

439 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:53:22am

re: #379 vxbush

Perhaps, but my last blood test showed high normal for sugar. That was fasting. but I'm thinking about getting a glucose meter. It would be good for my hubby, too.

When I was in high school there was this guy that sat behind me in one of classes who could never stay awake. Most of suspected drugs but the dang teacher diagnosed that it was low blood sugar and sent him to the nurse - they cured him. I was pretty impressed that that teacher could do that. Take care, yeah and the walk thing was a bad idea in your case.

440 jill e  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:53:36am

re: #398 jcm

My husband has had a kidney transplant and two hips replaced. I've had two c-sections and surgery to donate the kidney. We don't owe anything after all that because we work and we have private health insurance, which also covers his expensive anti-rejection drugs.

What's with Obama's "Exhibit A"?

441 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:53:39am

re: #418 Honorary Yooper

Sanford definately was crowing.
/in more ways than one.

Maybe his wife will turn him into a capon.

442 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:53:43am

re: #308 Jimmah

Heh. Spoken like a true creationist.

Are you incapable of seeing sarc tags?

443 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:54:04am

re: #419 jill e

I know...pretty creepy. But he was charming and gorgeous and I was naively flattered.

So was dickhead.

444 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:54:36am

re: #426 BlueCanuck

Ummm, I take the 5th? :)

So should Sanford.

445 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:54:47am

re: #436 MandyManners

I once dated the son of a Boeing engineer and he took a long time to explain to me how flight is possible. When he was done, I just said, "Magic".

Lift and thrust if you have fixed wings or rotors. Lift if you have a balloon.

It's pretty simple at the most basic level.

446 Mich-again  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:55:08am

re: #430 HoosierHoops

If today was sunny, I'd be on the golf course drinking bud light and saying 4 letter words...
So the lizards are stuck with me here...sorry

I'm thinking about going out and playing golf in the drizzle. Only fast players go out in this weather and you never get stuck behind Madge and Alice.

447 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:55:09am

re: #441 MandyManners

Maybe his wife will turn him into a capon.

That'll raise (or lower) "hen-pecked" to a new level.

448 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:55:11am

re: #441 MandyManners

Maybe his wife will turn him into a capon.

She needs to trade him for better.

449 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:55:22am

re: #415 Killgore Trout

Portland is a very strange city. When I started working at home I was shocked to notice how few of my neighbors have jobs. A lot of young people with trust funds so they don't really need to work. High unemployment won't effect us here as much as it would elsewhere. We don't have a lot of indistry here anyways. Nike is probably our biggest employer.

I do hope you will not suffer, regardless of the barbs I toss your way...ABQ and most of NM is pretty much blue dog democrat...lots of hardscrabble folks pounding out a living...very unpretentious and any job is a good job...we are a bit below the national ave for unemployment by a couple of points and holding steady

450 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:55:39am

re: #428 jcm

It is snake oil.

The media was all over he "emotional" moment with Debbie Smith.

She's a (D) operative who got invited through the WH.

Obama is trying to sell the largest government takeover of private sector business in history and he is using BULLSHIT to do it, and saying we have to DO IT NOW!

You may not like like but it's all consistent with his mentors teachings.

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451 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:55:49am

re: #445 OldLineTexan

Lift and thrust if you have fixed wings or rotors. Lift if you have a balloon.

It's pretty simple at the most basic level.

Simple, perhaps, but I' convinced it's impossible.
Not rational one bit, I admit.

452 Ateam  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:55:49am

re: #346 MandyManners

Where did I say that?

OK. What I meant to say is that the complicity of men misbehavior, especially connected to sex, but also in others variants areas, emanative from genetics code, among all personal character elements.

453 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:56:07am

re: #256 razorbacker

Nice people don't screw around with other people's husbands/wives.

454 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:56:10am

re: #430 HoosierHoops

If today was sunny, I'd be on the golf course drinking bud light and saying 4 letter words...
So the lizards are stuck with me here...sorry

FORE?

455 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:56:12am

I'm going to go see if what those Frenchies used to call 'pomme d'amour' are ripe, and water the flowers, and the garden, and feed the fishes, and in general mosey about and make a nuisance of myself.

See y'all later.

456 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:56:16am

re: #443 MandyManners

So was dickhead.

My g/f's ex was like that as well. What is it with some guys that they need to be complete jerks?

457 SFGoth  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:56:23am

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, which translates to, in modern parlance, any group with the word "family" in its name should just shut the fuck up and get the fuck out.

458 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:56:37am

re: #390 Erik The Red

Last time I did that on a flight I ended up with no pants on. No further detail can be recalled.

Are you Keith Wright erik?

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

459 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:56:46am

re: #432 reine.de.tout

safe and sound at home.
I'm sure, due to my diligence is using my mental abilities to keep the planes in the air.

Good to hear.

Gotta' give 'em strings and wings.

460 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:56:52am

re: #445 OldLineTexan

Lift and thrust


I'm getting all confused. Is this a sex thread or a flight thread?

461 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:56:57am

re: #454 MandyManners

FORE?

I'm sure one of the words start with "F".

462 Jimmah  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:57:06am

re: #442 OldLineTexan

Are you incapable of seeing sarc tags?

Are you incapable of detecting humour? Guess it's my bad - I should have added a sarc tag of my own.

463 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:57:18am

re: #331 Creeping Eruption
Reuters said he was captured along with 4 Afghani nationals and didn't say a word about the new operation. I pray for his safety, but I have to wonder what the heck he was doing wandering around with 4 Afghani nationals.Sorry,no link - got it in one of my news e-mails from Reuters or AP or somesuch early this AM and read it and deleted it.

464 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:57:19am

Reine - how's the cookbook coming? Weren't submissions due in June?
Looking forward to this one.

465 avanti  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:57:23am

re: #394 Killian Bundy

Well, just what is his best moment?

/the economy, foreign policy?

Guys and gals, just popped in for a moment to bring some cheer with the Palin picture. I'm in too good a mood to spend the day defending the POTUS, I'm getting ready to head to the casino with my friend.

466 SFGoth  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:57:31am

Now I'm off to the internist to see about my back and get me some vicodin. I've taken prescription painkillers 2 or 3 times in my life -- not really my thing -- but it's just damn too hard to concentrate on work with sciatica.

467 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:57:39am

re: #460 redstateredneck

I'm getting all confused. Is this a sex thread or a flight thread?

Fear of flying.

468 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:57:47am

re: #445 OldLineTexan

Lift and thrust if you have fixed wings or rotors. Lift if you have a balloon.

It's pretty simple at the most basic level.

Magic.

469 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:57:48am

re: #451 reine.de.tout

Simple, perhaps, but I' convinced it's impossible.
Not rational one bit, I admit.

teh air kittehs do it!

470 SFGoth  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:58:03am

re: #467 Kosh's Shadow

Fear of flying.

Great book.

471 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:58:05am

re: #460 redstateredneck

I'm getting all confused. Is this a sex thread or a flight thread?

It's now BOTH.

/ain't life grand?

472 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:58:16am

re: #447 pre-Boomer Marine brat

That'll raise (or lower) "hen-pecked" to a new level.

Bet he won't strut much then.

473 Jimmah  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:58:20am

Ben White - not an anti-semite - he just "understands" them:

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

474 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:58:22am

re: #440 jill e

My husband has had a kidney transplant and two hips replaced. I've had two c-sections and surgery to donate the kidney. We don't owe anything after all that because we work and we have private health insurance, which also covers his expensive anti-rejection drugs.

What's with Obama's "Exhibit A"?

From the links I posted, it looks like she qualifies or has assistance available.

She can't work.

But can organize and moderate events for the (D)s.

Fuckin' Snake Oil

475 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:58:35am

re: #460 redstateredneck

I'm getting all confused. Is this a sex thread or a flight thread?

It's the mile high club thread.

476 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:58:35am

re: #468 MandyManners

Magic.

I forgot ... thrust only if you want a missile/rocket/projectile.

;)

477 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:58:39am

re: #458 turn

Are you Keith Wright erik?

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

LOL. Dumbass.

478 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:58:47am
479 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:58:57am

re: #471 OldLineTexan

It's now BOTH.

/ain't life grand?

Does this mean I can be a member of the mile high club?

480 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:59:13am

re: #344 redstateredneck
He {red} - please do yourself a favor (maybe) and e-mail me asap about short selling and the new proposed Cap and Trade bill!

481 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:59:17am

re: #468 MandyManners

Magic.

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke

482 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:59:21am

re: #448 Honorary Yooper

She needs to trade him for better.

Oh, he was a fox in the henhouse for sure.

483 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:59:25am

re: #475 Honorary Yooper

It's the mile high club thread.

I was tooo slow. /bow

484 DistantThunder  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:59:29am

re: #450 MandyManners

CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS!
CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS!
CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS!
CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS!
CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS!

Stampeding the herd...off the cliff...another cliff...

485 KenJen  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:59:33am

re: #413 Erik The Red

I just finished a Rum and coke. Going to the bar now for a scotch. :)

Careful, don't end up like this guy.

486 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:00:01am

re: #467 Kosh's Shadow

Fear of flying.

The zipless f*ck.
Oh, yeah, I read that book in high school.
;-)

487 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:00:04am

re: #462 Jimmah

Are you incapable of detecting humour? Guess it's my bad - I should have added a sarc tag of my own.

Given our posting history, with no sarc tag, I saw no reason to suspect humour.

Like McCain, I am holding a hand across the aisle ...

488 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:00:11am

re: #482 MandyManners

Oh, he was a fox in the henhouse for sure.

Not a cock in the foxhouse?

489 horse  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:00:30am

I think they are doing the prep work for the divorce lawyers. He was a serial unfaithful jerk, she got feed up and kicked him out, his private emails and MIA status are leaked. She does public speaking and gains a lot of sympathy. He does public speaking and conveys he just wasn't into her so she had to know, and oh yeah, the new woman is a great soul mate who gets him. But its too late for him, he's burnt toast, and a total idiot. A SC divorce lawyer is going to be making bank on Sanford.

490 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:00:32am

re: #302 Killgore Trout

He's bragging.

You have to wonder.

491 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:00:44am

re: #452 Ateam

OK. What I meant to say is that the complicity of men misbehavior, especially connected to sex, but also in others variants areas, emanative from genetics code, among all personal character elements.

Biological drives can be harnessed if one takes one's vows seriously.

492 The Hoopster  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:01:04am

re: #465 avanti

Guys and gals, just popped in for a moment to bring some cheer with the Palin picture. I'm in too good a mood to spend the day defending the POTUS, I'm getting ready to head to the casino with my friend.

Speaking of that...A bunch of us watched the movie '21' last night...
I have been to Vegas in my life cause I'm not a gambling man..But I'm going now for the shows, bars and shopping.. And I guess feed a few slots.
It was a fun movie btw

493 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:01:05am

re: #413 Erik The Red

I just finished a Rum and coke. Going to the bar now for a scotch. :)

rum and scotch? man you are going to upchuck on the plane!

494 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:01:19am

re: #464 Kosh's Shadow

Reine - how's the cookbook coming? Weren't submissions due in June?
Looking forward to this one.

June 30th was the deadline.
If anybody has anything they want to get it, DO IT NOW, please.

I believe we have more recipes this time, I'm happy to say.
Also, Jaunte and FlakMusic are working on trying to have a better produced book, with some special type and Jaunte will do illustrations for the inside of the book.

I want to get it done by Sept/Oct or thereabouts, in time for Christmas.

495 sandspur  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:01:28am

JUST. SHUT. UP and GO AWAY

496 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:01:29am

re: #456 Honorary Yooper

My g/f's ex was like that as well. What is it with some guys that they need to be complete jerks?

Ain't no "need" about it. It's a choice.

497 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:01:40am

re: #489 horse

I think they are doing the prep work for the divorce lawyers. He was a serial unfaithful jerk, she got feed up and kicked him out, his private emails and MIA status are leaked. She does public speaking and gains a lot of sympathy. He does public speaking and conveys he just wasn't into her so she had to know, and oh yeah, the new woman is a great soul mate who gets him. But its too late for him, he's burnt toast, and a total idiot. A SC divorce lawyer is going to be making bank on Sanford.

Sanford will be lucky to have the shirt on his back when that lawyer's finished with him.

498 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:01:41am

re: #493 turn

rum and scotch? man you are going to upchuck on the plane!

good thing they have those little bags

499 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:01:54am

re: #480 realwest

He {red} - please do yourself a favor (maybe) and e-mail me asap about short selling and the new proposed Cap and Trade bill!

{real! You must have me confused with someone who has a brain for finance!

500 UFO TOFU  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:01:59am

re: #449 albusteve
Would you e-mail me? I think I blued my nic. I have some questions about New Mexico.

501 Rancher  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:02:10am

re: #375 lawhawk
New York, business capital of the world, is trying hard to top CA and WA in their hatred of business.

Shortly after he was confirmed as governor of New York earlier this year, David Paterson told a group of business executives that when he received congratulations from old friends he hadn’t heard from in years, he was surprised how many no longer lived in New York. "All of them basically said the same thing," Paterson told the group. "'Good luck in New York state, but we can't pay the taxes. The opportunities aren't there.'”
502 razorbacker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:02:11am

re: #453 J.D.

Nice people don't screw around with other people's husbands/wives.

I'm quite sure that you are absolutely correct.

But the sad fact of the matter is, that that wedding ring doesn't go around, or through, the genitalia, it goes around the finger.

It'd be more effective if it went the other place, but there you are.

Poor planning, I reckon. Seems like they'd have made the adjustment by now.

See y'all.

503 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:02:18am

re: #497 Honorary Yooper

Sanford will be lucky to have the shirt on his back when that lawyer's finished with him.

He's only going to be able to count to twenty, even with his pants off.

504 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:02:38am

re: #488 Honorary Yooper

Not a cock in the foxhouse?

The cock is on the walk.

505 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:02:53am

re: #493 turn

rum and scotch? man you are going to upchuck on the plane!

Never. I have more scotch in me than I do blood. :)

506 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:03:08am

re: #484 DistantThunder

Stampeding the herd...off the cliff...another cliff...

With the MFM helping guide.

507 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:03:10am

re: #497 Honorary Yooper

Sanford will be lucky to have the shirt on his back when that lawyer's finished with him.

Nah, I don't think his wife will take him for everything he is worth, since the worth is all hers. She is loaded. Her daddy is rich. He is the owner of one of them tool companies.

508 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:03:34am

OT
Soldier missing in Afghanistan broke rules by leaving his base alone...

Jenifer Griffin on Fox news

509 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:03:38am

re: #368 DistantThunder

Serial adultery is one small step away from sociopathy, so said a psychologist during the Lewinksky/Jones/Flowers/Brodrick/Wiley - Clinton Scandal, although technically Clinton sexually assaulted 3 of those women - allegedly - raping one - allegedly.

President Ford Believed Clinton had a sex addiciton

More...

Clinton still gets a standing "O" almost everywhere he goes.

I know a big-time businesswoman and Bill groped her.
Whatta guy.

510 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:04:27am

re: #402 Erik The Red
Ah, well then...nevermind! Have a safe, swift flight my friend!

511 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:04:40am

re: #492 HoosierHoops

Speaking of that...A bunch of us watched the movie '21' last night...
I have been to Vegas in my life cause I'm not a gambling man..But I'm going now for the shows, bars and shopping.. And I guess feed a few slots.
It was a fun movie btw

Is that the one with the college kids and Kevin Spacey is their professor?

512 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:04:43am

re: #505 Erik The Red

Never. I have more scotch in me than I do blood. :)

Drink lotsa' water. You know about dehydration from altitude and booze.

513 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:05:16am

re: #510 realwest

Ah, well then...nevermind! Have a safe, swift flight my friend!

Thanks rw.

514 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:05:17am

re: #509 J.D.

I know a big-time businesswoman and Bill groped her.
Whatta guy.

* * * *
JD, were you ever a board member of BP? In Alexandria, VA?

515 justabill  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:05:18am

re: #4 Thanos

If you're married you pretty much shouldn't dancing with anyone else at any time during the day, end, middle, or beginning.

The exception being at a wedding, when you are allowed one dance with the bride. Especially if its your daughter...

516 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:05:23am

re: #512 MandyManners

Drink lotsa' water. You know about dehydration from altitude and booze.

And the call button is NOT on the flight attendant's ass ... you have been warned!

/

517 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:05:33am

re: #498 OldLineTexan

good thing they have those little bags

Unfortunately, that can backfire on you.

*WARNING: The link is a bit disgusting, but safe for work.

518 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:05:42am

re: #382 jill e

EXACTLY! The ex-Sanfordian boyfriend I referred to, told me about a dream he had about his "soul mate" and proceeded to give me a description of a female version of HIM! By that time I was pretty much fed up, so I reminded him of Narcissus who fell in love with his own reflection in a pool of water. That gave him a momentary pause, but it was far too late...

You are well out of that!
Not that I needed to tell you so.

519 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:05:47am

re: #509 J.D.

I know a big-time businesswoman and Bill groped her.
Whatta guy.

Bill, I'm afraid, never quite grew up, is stuck in adolescence.
Mature adult men understand where the line is, and manage to "control themselves".

520 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:06:17am

re: #517 MrSilverDragon

Unfortunately, that can backfire on you.

*WARNING: The link is a bit disgusting, but safe for work.

That's one mean pilot.

521 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:06:17am

re: #512 MandyManners

Drink lotsa' water. You know about dehydration from altitude and booze.

Thanks 2M. I drink very little when I am flying, but to drinks liters of water.

522 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:06:19am

re: #154 Killian Bundy

Your Government totally out of control:

Barney Frank: Let's spend TARP profits before taxpayers can get them

/had enough hope and change yet?

I had enough a long time ago.

My answer to the TARP spending plan from last night:

Our answer to that should be swift. By next week, the GOP should be lined up behind a bill to direct any TARP proceeds into tax rebates. The money belongs to the people and government must not be allowed to forget that. The bill should be a easy sell for every Republican. We unite the party and show ourselves on the side of the public. The Dems may vote us down, but casting that vote will hurt them.

523 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:06:20am

re: #488 Honorary Yooper

Not a cock in the foxhouse?

He's a wild and crazy guy

524 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:06:25am

re: #514 alegrias

Not I.
Why?

I'll check back later.

525 mfarmer1  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:06:40am

This song always comes to mind each and every time one of these hypocrites are exposed:

"God Only Knows"
-James

You may say I am cynical, but I say man is flawed
He has a vague memory of before some fall
Behaving like a reptile, but talks of walking tall
If god is in his image, the almighty must be small
God only knows
Swaggart has been caught with his trousers round his knees
After damning me and you to hell for eternity
Sex and power and money is the prayer of these priests
They bribe their way past heaven's gates and steal a set of keys
God only knows My guru has been sleeping with adepts and with sheep
While I was fucking celibate, self-righteous in belief
Yesterday he was god, now he is a creep
We fell upon each other starving for relief
God only knows
I damn you all to hell
I speak in the name of god
I know him intimately
I speak in the name of the white haired old man in the clouds
Always a man
Dispensing lightening justice from his fingertips
As self-righteous and bigoted as those who created him
A cruel desert god with absolutely no sense of humor
How do you feel old man?
How do you feel?
Being spoken for by these self-righteous fanatics
Is heaven full, oh lord, of these babbling preachers and
God-fearing biggots
Well I know where I'd rather be
Away from this cacophony
God only knows
God only knows
God only knows

526 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:06:44am

re: #500 UFO TOFU

Would you e-mail me? I think I blued my nic. I have some questions about New Mexico.

give me a few minutes

527 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:06:59am

re: #508 alegrias

OT
Soldier missing in Afghanistan broke rules by leaving his base alone...

Jenifer Griffin on Fox news

Unfortunately that may be the last rule he ever breaks

528 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:07:08am

re: #516 OldLineTexan

And the call button is NOT on the flight attendant's ass ... you have been warned!

/

Neither is it on her chest.

529 The Hoopster  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:07:15am

re: #511 redstateredneck

Is that the one with the college kids and Kevin Spacey is their professor?


Yes.. It was a pretty good movie...Kate Bosworth played a good part..
Fun Movie!

530 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:07:17am
531 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:07:26am

the repubs need to learn a few key lessons if they expect to return to glory. this will piss some people off, but as a right of center Independent who has never been a registered "R," these are the things that prevent a "would be" Republican like me from actually taking the plunge.

1. Roe vs Wade. Let it go. You want Jewish females to vote for you? Either drop this issue or at least relegate it to less prominent status.

2. Family Values. Some of the best families I know are full of Democrats. You never "owned" this issue. And the Sanfords of the world will make the Repubs look like hypocrites if they don't give this one a rest too.

3. Purge Extremists. Who do the extremists support? Ron Paul, who is a dangerous kook. He needs to be marginalized, not embraced. As for those in the media like pat buchanan, he should not be embraced by otherwise good folks like Hannity or O'Reilly. I know why MSNBC employs him. They want a kook representing the political right. FOX should know better than to allow this fool on their shows.

There's more, but you'll be bored with it. Anyway, I don't ask others to agree with me because we all have different priorities. But if you want NEW people to join you in the party, this may help.

532 UFO TOFU  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:07:45am

re: #526 albusteve

Thanks.

533 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:08:05am

re: #521 Erik The Red

Thanks 2M. I drink very little when I am flying, but to drinks liters of water.

I never drank anything but a very little bit of Champagne when flying because it didn't mix with Tranxene.

534 KenJen  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:08:14am

re: #516 OldLineTexan

And the call button is NOT on the flight attendant's ass ... you have been warned!

/

I went on vacation a month ago. I was amazed at how frumpy the flight attendants looked. Faded uniforms, crazy disheveled hair. One didn't even have make-up on.

535 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:08:28am

re: #519 reine.de.tout

Bill, I'm afraid, never quite grew up, is stuck in adolescence.
Mature adult men understand where the line is, and manage to "control themselves".

In Bill's case, I believe he thinks he's spreading the joy around.

*gag*

536 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:08:34am

re: #501 Rancher

Except I think the real quote was - not that we can't pay NY taxes. It's that they wont pay those taxes anymore.

The state needs businesses to pay taxes, and every business that relocates; and every person that relocates out of the state is one less taxpayer who will provide revenues to the state.

It depletes the tax base, leaving those remaining holding the bag.

NYS taxpayers are screwed because no one in Albany will stand up to the unions and demand concessions to cut the state budget or workforce, pension obligations, state health programs that are bloated as jobs programs to SEIU, DC 37 and others, and the tax burden becomes a crushing mess.

In a recession with massive shortfalls the state increased the state budget, instead of tightening the belt and did so in excess of the inflation rate.

And Wall Street can't bail them out because the profits aren't there.

Next year's budget is going to be far worse - and may approach CA levels.

537 Jimmah  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:08:37am

re: #487 OldLineTexan

Given our posting history, with no sarc tag, I saw no reason to suspect humour.

Like McCain, I am holding a hand across the aisle ...

No probs OLT. But I would say that given that posting history, I thought you'd know I knew you weren't a creationist. But you're right in that I should have used a sarc tag just to be absolutely clear.

538 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:09:02am

re: #433 Jimmah
Yep to all that you said except this: "In any case, Arthur is now generally seen as a legendary figure, not a historical figure."
Historians (real ones, not revisionist types like on the History Channel) and anthropologists do think Arthur was real - the whole thing about Camelot and knights of the Round Table, etc., probably myth. But Arthur was quite possibly a true historical figure of some note.

539 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:09:26am

Sea World and my granddaughter await!

Later!

540 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:09:44am

re: #524 J.D.

Not I.
Why?

I'll check back later.

* * * *
I asked because I knew a J.D. from Arkansas who knew Clinton and his antics...that's all. Great guy, former general and board member of our condo. Wondered if it was you.

541 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:09:49am

re: #390 Erik The Red

I always bring at least two books with me when I fly. I pass the time on the flight and in the airport by reading.

542 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:10:01am

re: #539 J.D.

Sea World and my granddaughter await!

Later!

FREE TEH SEA KITTEHS!

543 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:10:51am

Merkel: Settlements ruin efforts for 2-state solution

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Yup, the Palestinians total commitment to Violence and inability to even manage their own garbage pick up has nothing to do with it I guess? Assholes.

544 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:10:52am

re: #528 MandyManners

Neither is it on her chest.

You mean those two reddish/brown things on her chest aren't buttons?
Damn.
/

545 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:10:55am

re: #494 reine.de.tout

reine
I just emailed you my redneck caviar recipe. Now I'm hungry for some. Gonna have to make it tonight!

546 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:11:03am

re: #538 realwest

Yep to all that you said except this: "In any case, Arthur is now generally seen as a legendary figure, not a historical figure."
Historians (real ones, not revisionist types like on the History Channel) and anthropologists do think Arthur was real - the whole thing about Camelot and knights of the Round Table, etc., probably myth. But Arthur was quite possibly a true historical figure of some note.

Yes, Camelot was only a model.
(Not quite that scene, but a funnier one)

547 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:11:05am

re: #473 Jimmah

"I am not an asshole, but I understand assholes."

Is this a proctologist we're speaking of, or an analogy of what Ben Smith said?

548 J.D.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:11:13am

re: #540 alegrias

* * * *
I asked because I knew a J.D. from Arkansas who knew Clinton and his antics...that's all. Great guy, former general and board member of our condo. Wondered if it was you.

Well, I am a great gal, general of my army, and have been president of my maintenance association...

:D

549 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:11:27am

Oh, and look here. Obama's health care czar (who never had to face Senate confirmation because it's a position outside the confirmation process), led health care companies that faced scores of investigations and violations.

Nancy-Ann DeParle, President Barack Obama’s health policy czar, served as a director of corporations that faced scores of federal investigations, whistleblower lawsuits and other regulatory actions, according to government records reviewed by the Investigative Reporting Workshop at American University.

Several of the companies were investigated for alleged kickbacks or engaging in other illegal billing schemes, while others were accused of serious violations of federal quality standards, including one company that failed to warn patients of deadly problems with an implanted heart defibrillator. Several of the cases ended with substantial fines paid to the federal government, even though the companies admitted no wrongdoing.

Since leaving her government job running Medicare for the Clinton administration, DeParle built a lucrative private-sector career. Records show she earned more than $6.6 million since early 2001, according to a tally by the Investigative Reporting Workshop.

Much of that corporate career was built at companies that have frequently had to defend themselves against federal investigations. After leaving government, DeParle accepted director positions at half a dozen companies suspected of violating the very laws and regulations she had enforced for Medicare. Those companies got into further trouble on her watch as a director.

Hope! Change!

Prison jump suits would be a pleasant change, but Obama instead thinks this person worthy of running his health care reform package.

550 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:11:37am

re: #541 Mad Al-Jaffee

I always bring at least two books with me when I fly. I pass the time on the flight and in the airport by reading.

New book will be bought before I board and my iPod is fully charged. Plus PSP and my laptop. I should be able to keep my self entertained.

551 Ateam  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:11:56am

re: #491 MandyManners

Biological drives can be harnessed if one takes one's vows seriously.

Sure enough. That's exactly why I never took vows of marriage. Didn't believe in a life long contracts.

552 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:12:21am

re: #548 J.D.

Well, I am a great gal, general of my army, and have been president of my maintenance association...

:D

* * **
Uh oh, in that case, watch out for Bill Clinton's roamin' hands & russian fingers!

553 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:12:27am

re: #529 HoosierHoops

Yes.. It was a pretty good movie...Kate Bosworth played a good part..
Fun Movie!

Yeah, I enjoyed it, too.

554 jill e  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:12:33am

From Wiki:

After graduating from Furman University [Sandford's] first job was as an associate for Coldwell Banker in 1983. He then worked as a project supervisor for Beachside Real Estate at the Isle of Palms, with Pat McKinney and Frank Brumley between 1984–1986. In 1987 while working towards his MBA he was trained at Goldman Sachs. After graduating with his MBA he took a position as a financial analyst with Chemical Realty Corporation (1988–1990). At the end of 1990 he moved back to Charleston, South Carolina and worked as a real estate broker on Daniel Island for Brumley Company (1990–1991).

Sanford founded Norton and Sanford Real Estate Investment, a leasing and brokerage company, in 1992. He still owns the company. In the early 1990s he moved to Sullivan's Island, South Carolina with his wife Jenny and their four boys, Marshall, Landon, Bolton, and Blake.

555 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:12:42am

re: #545 redstateredneck

reine
I just emailed you my redneck caviar recipe. Now I'm hungry for some. Gonna have to make it tonight!

GOT It.
Looks good.
And easy.

556 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:12:54am

re: #450 MandyManners

CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS!
CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS!
CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS!
CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS!
CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS! CRISIS!

Cloward-Piven

557 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:12:56am

Morning all. I've decided to spend time trying to rally support for someone to run against my congressman. Why? He's a Republican, done a pretty good job overall, and I pretty much agree with his positions.

But I've really come to the conclusion that no one should occupy a seat in Congress for more than two terms. Two terms is public service; anything more is a career. And, that's where we get into trouble.

I want to vote for someone who has a career, is willing to put it on hold to serve the district and the country, but really would like to get back to his or her real career as soon as possible.

(Sigh, but to paraphrase Tommy Lee Jones in "No Country for Old Men" - 'and then I woke up.')

558 onslow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:13:09am
559 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:13:22am

re: #549 lawhawk

Anybody who is even remotely in Health care, like me, knows exactly what a gov. mandate health system will be like, and the corruption that WILL run amok.

560 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:13:27am

re: #543 Nevergiveup

I can't help but repeat:

The settlement were never an issue. Hamas and Fatah terrorists who refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist is the sole issue thwarting a peace deal. Israel has repeatedly shown itself capable of removing Israeli citizens from communities built in Sinai or Gaza or the West Bank in the pursuit of peace. They got it in Sinai, but the Gaza experience shows that Hamas will take advantage of any Jew-free territory in order to attack Israel.

561 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:13:28am

re: #534 KenJen

I went on vacation a month ago. I was amazed at how frumpy the flight attendants looked. Faded uniforms, crazy disheveled hair. One didn't even have make-up on.

Shoot, when I fly, sometimes the flight attendants are balding.

/Some airlines use male flight attendants.

562 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:13:30am

re: #505 Erik The Red

Never. I have more scotch in me than I do blood. :)

ha. I can't stand scotch, have a safe trip. 30 hrs, jeeze I would be getting hammered too. That's a very long flight.

563 Jimmah  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:13:56am

re: #538 realwest

There are real historians on both sides of that debate. But those who see him as mostly legend seem to be dominant. At the very least his historicity is hotly disputed, especially in more recent times.

564 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:14:02am

re: #555 reine.de.tout

GOT It.
Looks good.
And easy.

Can't beat good & easy.
;-)

565 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:14:08am

re: #544 Honorary Yooper

You mean those two reddish/brown things on her chest aren't buttons?
Damn.
/

Nor are they knobs.

566 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:14:09am

re: #505 Erik The Red

Never. I have more scotch in me than I do blood. :)

There's a Tom Waits song that has the lyrics, "I sold a pint of blood and bought a half a pint of scotch."

567 The Hoopster  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:14:10am

re: #534 KenJen

I went on vacation a month ago. I was amazed at how frumpy the flight attendants looked. Faded uniforms, crazy disheveled hair. One didn't even have make-up on.


Flew a Northwest flight from Detroit to Amsterdam once.. The flight attenants were gay guys...They had us laughing the whole time with their banter back and forth to us and themselves...I mean they were just so much fun..I can't recall a more fun flight...

568 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:14:20am

re: #528 MandyManners

Neither is it on her chest.

That I have never seen. I witnessed an ass-slap once.

569 SecondComing  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:14:31am
570 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:14:35am

re: #499 redstateredneck
OK, then disregard my message. But Cap and Trade as amended and passed by the House is not good news for existing homeowners.

571 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:14:54am

re: #551 Ateam

Sure enough. That's exactly why I never took vows of marriage. Didn't believe in a life long contracts.

They're not for the faint of heart.

572 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:15:14am

re: #560 lawhawk

I can't help but repeat:

The settlement were never an issue. Hamas and Fatah terrorists who refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist is the sole issue thwarting a peace deal. Israel has repeatedly shown itself capable of removing Israeli citizens from communities built in Sinai or Gaza or the West Bank in the pursuit of peace. They got it in Sinai, but the Gaza experience shows that Hamas will take advantage of any Jew-free territory in order to attack Israel.

Yup and I am sure our President recognizes that?
/ must I?

573 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:15:28am

re: #551 Ateam

Sure enough. That's exactly why I never took vows of marriage. Didn't believe in a life long contracts.

I'm sorry. You didn't deserve my snark in No. 571. I apologize.

574 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:15:41am

re: #556 Dark_Falcon

Cloward-Piven

Bingo.

575 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:15:47am

re: #567 HoosierHoops

Flew a Northwest flight from Detroit to Amsterdam once.. The flight attenants were gay guys...They had us laughing the whole time with their banter back and forth to us and themselves...I mean they were just so much fun..I can't recall a more fun flight...

snow ski charters can be a good time, when your younger that is

576 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:16:02am

re: #565 MandyManners

Nor are they knobs.

577 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:16:15am

re: #543 Nevergiveup

Yup, the Palestinians total commitment to Violence and inability to even manage their own garbage pick up has nothing to do with it I guess? Assholes.

YA THINK? Assholes is right.

578 Jimmah  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:16:28am

Gotta go and eat now, see you later.

579 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:16:29am

re: #570 realwest

OK, then disregard my message. But Cap and Trade as amended and passed by the House is not good news for existing homeowners.


Oh, yeah, I get you. I took my house off the market after listing it for a year and if this crap passes the Senate without some major changes, I'll have to take out a home equity loan to do all the fricken improvements to sell the sonofabitch when I do list it again.
>:[
Grrr!

580 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:16:30am

Great Britain's National Health Service (NHS) was created on July 5, 1948.

As with all government programs, bureaucrats underestimated initial cost projections. First-year operating costs of NHS were 52 million pounds higher than original estimates1 as Britons saturated the so-called free system.
Many decades of shortages, misery and suffering followed until 1989, when some market-based health care competition was reintroduced to the British citizens2.

Unfortunately for those requiring care, a mostly socialist health care system has problems. The articles and commentaries in this section identify some disasters caused by government intervention in the British health care system.

Straight from the newspapers

Kidney cancer patients denied life-saving drugs by NHS rationing body NICE
- April 29, 2009 [Daily Mail (UK)]
Girl, 3, has heart operation cancelled three times because of bed shortage
- David Rose, April 23, 2009 [Times Online]
Number of children going to hospital to have teeth pulled soars by 66% since 1997
- Daniel Martin and Cher Thornhill, April 12, 2009 [Daily Mail (UK)]
NHS 'failings' over elderly falls
- March 25, 2009 [BBC]
Learning disabled 'failed by NHS'
- Nick Triggle, March 24, 2009 [BBC]
Cancer survivor confronts the health secretary on 62-day wait
- Lyndsay Moss, March 21, 2009 [The Scotsman]
Culture of targets prevents nurses from tending to patients
- Claire Rayner, President of the Patients Association, March 21, 2009 [Telegraph UK]
Children being failed by health system, says head of watchdog
- Sarah Boseley, March 21, 2009 [Guardian Unlimited]
Our cancer shame: Survival rates still lag behind EU despite spending billions
- Jenny Hope, March 20, 2009 [Daily Mail(UK)]
Failing hospital 'caused deaths'
- March 17, 2009 [BBC]
Health gap drive 'wasted money'
- Nick Triggle, March 14, 2009 [BBC]
Longer GP opening hours branded wasteful 'PR exercise' by doctors
- Lyndsay Moss, March 13, 2009 [The Scotsman]
"Political meddling" threatens general practice, warns GP leader
- March 13, 2009 [Management in Practice (UK)]
Children at risk through lack of training for doctors and nurses, report warns
- Rebecca Smith, March 13, 2009 [Telegraph UK]
Chocolate should be taxed to control obesity epidemic, doctors are told
- Simon Johnson, March 13, 2009 [Telegraph UK]
1,000 villagers wait for a dentist after just one NHS practice opens
- March 10, 2009 [Daily Mail(UK)]
Study that proves the folly of NHS Alzheimer's drug ban
- Jenny Hope, March 7, 2009 [Daily Mail(UK)]
NHS charges to rise in England
- March 5, 2009 [BBC]
Disabled children wait up to two years for wheelchairs
- March 4, 2009 [Guardian Unlimited]
NHS under fire over waiting times
- February 25, 2009 [The Scotsman]
Government procrastination blamed for HIV-contaminated blood tragedy
- February 23, 2009 [Guardian Unlimited]
Specialist nurses 'vastly overworked'
- February 20, 2009 [Harwich & Manningtree Standard]
Hundreds of operations cancelled at Lothian hospitals
- Adam Morris, February 19, 2009 [The Scotsman]
Stop asking for antibiotics to cure coughs and colds, Government tells patients
- Daniel Martin, February 17, 2009 [Daily Mail(UK)]
Stroke services are 'UK's worst'
- February 17, 2009 [BBC]


And the List goes on, and on, and on, and on...

581 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:16:37am

re: #508 alegrias
Good morning alegrias - indeed, as I posted somewhere up above, he was in the company of 4 Afghani nationals when he was kidnapped. Now what is there in Afghanistan that would make a soldier do something like that?

582 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:16:44am

re: #573 MandyManners

I'm sorry. You didn't deserve my snark in No. 571. I apologize.

Taken by itself, it's still a good comment.

583 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:16:45am

re: #568 OldLineTexan

That I have never seen. I witnessed an ass-slap once.

I hope she stomped the stuffing out of that creep.

584 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:16:49am

re: #558 onslow

Mark Sanford

LMAO!

585 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:17:26am

re: #581 realwest

Good morning alegrias - indeed, as I posted somewhere up above, he was in the company of 4 Afghani nationals when he was kidnapped. Now what is there in Afghanistan that would make a soldier do something like that?

special ops?

586 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:17:31am

re: #556 Dark_Falcon

Cloward-Piven

I will add for emphasis.

Cloward - Piven of Columbia
Columbia, Obama's school.
Columbia of unreleased Obama transcripts.

587 KenJen  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:17:36am

re: #567 HoosierHoops

Flew a Northwest flight from Detroit to Amsterdam once.. The flight attendants were gay guys...They had us laughing the whole time with their banter back and forth to us and themselves...I mean they were just so much fun..I can't recall a more fun flight...

Lucky you. My recent attendants looks pissed off and tired. They wouldn't even give me and extra Biscoff cookie package.

588 Land Shark  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:17:51am

re: #497 Honorary Yooper

Sanford will be lucky to have the shirt on his back when that lawyer's finished with him.


Oh yeah. All her lawyer is going to have to do is play back all this media coverage of Sanford at the trial and the guy is toast. If he had any brains he would would have STFU a long time ago. Then again, if he had any brains he wouldn't have put himself in the position he's in.

589 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:17:57am

re: #582 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Taken by itself, it's still a good comment.

Maybe so but, the context sucked.

590 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:18:20am

A legal advocacy group advised by Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor in the 1980s actively opposed conservative Robert H. Bork's nomination to the high court calling him a "threat" to the "civil rights of the Latino community."

The documents, which the group's lawyers have said include relevant information about Judge Sotomayor's time there, also show the fund did legal work for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, known as ACORN. During the 2008 presidential election, ACORN came under fire after allegations of voter registration fraud.

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

For what it's worth

591 muddywood  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:18:28am

Sanford looks and sounds like a sad man trapped in a loveless marriage.
He had a couple of choices.
1- Get a divorce and commit political suicide
2- stay married to a shrew in a loveless marriage until he's out of public office.
3- Find love outside his marriage and hope he doesn't get caught.

All of them are bad choices. Some worse than others.
He chose #3 and then got caught.
He should've just admitted it and then kept his mouth shut and let the chips fall where they may.
I think he's cracking under the pressure.

592 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:18:53am

re: #589 MandyManners

Maybe so but, the context sucked.

Yeah, I got that part of it.
/*my respect* for the apology

593 UFO TOFU  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:18:55am

re: #545 redstateredneck

reine
I just emailed you my redneck caviar recipe.


What in the world is that?

594 avspatti  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:18:56am

Really! What does it matter if he is a creationist or not? That is certainly NOT the point, is it? Why throw that in the post? I dare say if the man were an ardent believer in evolution, he would still be gushing about his 'soul mate' etc.

The man is a cad.

595 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:18:57am

re: #569 SecondComing

Amnesty says Israel "wantonly" destroyed Gaza

sheesh

Jew-hate disguised as compassion for the Palis. Bad, stupid, sick.

596 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:19:01am

re: #587 KenJen

I can't remember the last time I flew and the flight attendants were young and good looking. Maybe all of the hot ones from the 70s and 80s got older and are still working the same jobs.

597 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:19:20am

re: #586 jcm

I will add for emphasis.

Cloward - Piven of Columbia
Columbia, Obama's school.
Columbia of unreleased Obama transcripts.

Didn't they attend Clinton's signing of the welfare reform bill?

598 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:20:03am

re: #588 Land Shark

Oh yeah. All her lawyer is going to have to do is play back all this media coverage of Sanford at the trial and the guy is toast. If he had any brains he would would have STFU a long time ago. Then again, if he had any brains he wouldn't have put himself in the position he's in.

One can be brilliant and still lack character and integrity.

599 FrogMarch  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:21:29am

re: #428 jcm

It is snake oil.

The media was all over he "emotional" moment with Debbie Smith.

She's a (D) operative who got invited through the WH.

Obama is trying to sell the largest government takeover of private sector business in history and he is using BULLSHIT to do it, and saying we have to DO IT NOW!

You may not like like but it's all consistent with his mentors teachings.

The left mocked Bush for being clumsy with his words. Obama can't sting two thoughts together without a pre-arranged production and a teleprompter.

600 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:21:30am

re: #565 MandyManners

Nor are they knobs.

No, emergency flotation devices in the event of a water landing. ha, I learned that one from you.

601 solomonpanting  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:21:39am
"There were a handful of instances wherein I crossed the lines I shouldn't have crossed as a married man but never crossed the ultimate line."

He denies it, but I do find it unlikely that Sanford would fly thousands of miles to meet his soul mate for coffee and dessert.

602 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:21:54am

re: #567 HoosierHoops

Flew a Northwest flight from Detroit to Amsterdam once.. The flight attenants were gay guys...They had us laughing the whole time with their banter back and forth to us and themselves...I mean they were just so much fun..I can't recall a more fun flight...

I flew from Detroit to Amsterdam on KLM 2 years ago (first leg of a trip to Moscow) and it was just a boring old plane flight. Even the movies sucked. The return flight sucked even more because they forgot our kosher meals.

603 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:22:13am

re: #590 Nevergiveup

A legal advocacy group advised by Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor in the 1980s actively opposed conservative Robert H. Bork's nomination to the high court calling him a "threat" to the "civil rights of the Latino community."

The documents, which the group's lawyers have said include relevant information about Judge Sotomayor's time there, also show the fund did legal work for the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, known as ACORN. During the 2008 presidential election, ACORN came under fire after allegations of voter registration fraud.

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

For what it's worth

What was its position on Thomas?

604 Ateam  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:22:14am

re: #573 MandyManners

605 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:22:25am

re: #560 lawhawk

I can't help but repeat:

The settlement were never an issue. Hamas and Fatah terrorists who refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist is the sole issue thwarting a peace deal.

It's the culture of violence and terrorism, jihad, that is the obstacle to peace. Children being brought up in hate, celebrating death and martyrdom from an early age.

That is the problem. Get a damned clue. Isreali settlements are merely a distraction, displacement, and sub-issue.

606 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:22:28am

re: #583 MandyManners

I hope she stomped the stuffing out of that creep.

When the plane landed, he was escorted off.

607 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:22:32am

re: #593 UFO TOFU

What in the world is that?

blackeyed pea dip.

608 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:22:34am

re: #594 avspatti

To be quite honest, I don't understand the tag either, and you know my feelings on young earth creationism and young earth creationists.

609 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:23:09am

re: #591 muddywood

Sanford looks and sounds like a sad man trapped in a loveless marriage.
He had a couple of choices.
1- Get a divorce and commit political suicide
2- stay married to a shrew in a loveless marriage until he's out of public office.
3- Find love outside his marriage and hope he doesn't get caught.

All of them are bad choices. Some worse than others.
He chose #3 and then got caught.
He should've just admitted it and then kept his mouth shut and let the chips fall where they may.
I think he's cracking under the pressure.

"SHREW"? What's your evidence that she's a shrew?

610 FrogMarch  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:23:10am

What happens when Obama's teleprompter goes out.

611 UFO TOFU  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:23:39am

re: #607 redstateredneck

Oh man, I haven't had black-eyed peas in ages. That sounds wonderful!

612 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:23:58am

re: #581 realwest

Good morning alegrias - indeed, as I posted somewhere up above, he was in the company of 4 Afghani nationals when he was kidnapped. Now what is there in Afghanistan that would make a soldier do something like that?

* * *
Morning Real, Happy Anniversary you fighter you!

Not sure why a soldier would leave his remote 12 man base...God protect him and hope we find him.

613 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:24:06am

re: #596 Mad Al-Jaffee

I can't remember the last time I flew and the flight attendants were young and good looking. Maybe all of the hot ones from the 70s and 80s got older and are still working the same jobs.

I used to stay at a little B ans B type place outside of MoBay, Jamaica in the early 70s...guy from Jersey owned it...maybe ten rooms and most of his business was airline girls...and they think nothing of wandering around naked near the pool and lounging about...I went there every year and always found the same bunch chillin there...wow

614 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:24:09am

re: #611 UFO TOFU

Oh man, I haven't had black-eyed peas in ages. That sounds wonderful!

Whadja think it was...catfish eggs?
;-)

615 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:24:09am

SIMI VALLEY, Calif. — A gunman opened fire inside a busy dental office in an apparent domestic dispute Wednesday, killing one woman dead and critically wounding three others, police said. A fourth person was grazed by a bullet.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

maybe I should be packing in my office?

616 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:24:41am

re: #613 albusteve

I used to stay at a little B ans B type place outside of MoBay, Jamaica in the early 70s...guy from Jersey owned it...maybe ten rooms and most of his business was airline girls...and they think nothing of wandering around naked near the pool and lounging about...I went there every year and always found the same bunch chillin there...wow

YOU LEFT?

/

617 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:24:51am

re: #603 MandyManners

What was its position on Thomas?

Not sure, but I'll bet a small fortune they were not in his corner.

618 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:25:11am

re: #615 Nevergiveup

SIMI VALLEY, Calif. — A gunman opened fire inside a busy dental office in an apparent domestic dispute Wednesday, killing one woman dead and critically wounding three others, police said. A fourth person was grazed by a bullet.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

maybe I should be packing in my office?

Arm yourself with a drill!

619 UFO TOFU  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:25:16am

re: #614 redstateredneck

Well, I wasn't going to say anything, but...

620 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:25:25am

re: #591 muddywood

Sanford looks and sounds like a sad man trapped in a loveless marriage.
He had a couple of choices.
1- Get a divorce and commit political suicide
2- stay married to a shrew in a loveless marriage until he's out of public office.
3- Find love outside his marriage and hope he doesn't get caught.

All of them are bad choices. Some worse than others.
He chose #3 and then got caught.
He should've just admitted it and then kept his mouth shut and let the chips fall where they may.
I think he's cracking under the pressure.

Calling her a "shrew" is just one step from excusing his choice to stick his dick where it didn't belong.

You also forgot the fourth choice: Admit it to his wife and rededicate himself to his marriage if she didn't kick him to the curb.

621 Rancher  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:25:38am

re: #449 albusteve

I do hope you will not suffer, regardless of the barbs I toss your way...ABQ and most of NM is pretty much blue dog democrat...lots of hardscrabble folks pounding out a living...very unpretentious and any job is a good job...we are a bit below the national ave for unemployment by a couple of points and holding steady

Unemployment is through the roof especially when you add in those who don't get reported like workers who are no longer looking and aren't getting unemployment insurance payments. Yet we are still understaffed at the prison where I work here in New Mexico and not just Correctional Officers. We need teachers, cooks, and secretaries. If you're not a felon and don't do drugs I can probably get you a job.

622 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:25:48am

re: #599 FrogMarch

The left mocked Bush for being clumsy with his words. Obama can't sting two thoughts together without a pre-arranged production and a teleprompter.

He can't handle and is afraid of unscripted questions, i.e. Joe the Plumber.

Anyone who has to script answers to questions, can't answer them honestly because they lack core values to be able to formulate an answer.

623 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:26:00am

re: #569 SecondComing

AI should focus on all the Pali school books hating Jews, all of the pre-adolescent kids dressed up as little suicide bombers.

624 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:26:14am

re: #618 redstateredneck

Arm yourself with a drill!

Maybe, but a gun beats a drill anytime?

625 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:26:32am

re: #607 redstateredneck

blackeyed pea dip.

Hey red, that sounds delicious. I think I would buy the book for that receipe alone. I love black eyed peas and bean dips. Does it have butter in it?

626 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:26:33am

re: #591 muddywood

That's not my take at all. He married Jenny and loved her at least somewhat, and he let her organize his political ascent to power. Then having got fairly high up there, he met someone else who he decided he loved more. Instead of doing the honorable thing and sticking to the vows he made, or even failing that admitting how he felt and getting a divorce, he chose to cheat. Jenny Sanford is not a shrew, she's a woman who can stand on her own two feet and won't simply provide cover to her husband.

627 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:26:49am

re: #616 OldLineTexan

YOU LEFT?

/

hurricane blew it away in 89...I know of several other places just like it but without the stewardesses...

628 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:27:02am

re: #596 Mad Al-Jaffee

I can't remember the last time I flew and the flight attendants were young and good looking. Maybe all of the hot ones from the 70s and 80s got older and are still working the same jobs.

we had a young one on a flight to Pittsburgh last week. She sounded so young on the PA system, but she was cute. They don't make them like Uli Derrickson anymore.

[Link: www.blogofdeath.com...]

629 UFO TOFU  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:27:16am

re: #624 Nevergiveup

Never bring a drill to a gun fight?

630 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:27:42am

re: #629 UFO TOFU

Never bring a drill to a gun fight?

That's from "West Side Story" isn't it?
/

631 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:27:43am

re: #620 MandyManners

Calling her a "shrew" is just one step from excusing his choice to stick his dick where it didn't belong.

You also forgot the fourth choice: Admit it to his wife and rededicate himself to his marriage if she didn't kick him to the curb.

muddywood, meet Mandy. In the future, ya' might wanna watch yourself around her.
:D

632 Ben Hur  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:28:36am

re: #560 lawhawk

I can't help but repeat:

The settlement were never an issue. Hamas and Fatah terrorists who refuse to recognize Israel's right to exist is the sole issue thwarting a peace deal. Israel has repeatedly shown itself capable of removing Israeli citizens from communities built in Sinai or Gaza or the West Bank in the pursuit of peace. They got it in Sinai, but the Gaza experience shows that Hamas will take advantage of any Jew-free territory in order to attack Israel.


Maybe she means Western funded Palestinian settlements in the disputed territories that they building for their security officiers, etc.

They build more than we do.

On the "West Bank" and in Jerusalem.

633 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:28:47am

re: #612 alegrias

* * *
Morning Real, Happy Anniversary you fighter you!

Not sure why a soldier would leave his remote 12 man base...God protect him and hope we find him.

Afghans told him they had some women that would like to meet an American, but it turned out a way to lure him into a trap, maybe.

634 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:29:14am

re: #625 turn

Hey red, that sounds delicious. I think I would buy the book for that receipe alone. I love black eyed peas and bean dips. Does it have butter in it?

No, it's a cold or room temp dip. Oily Italian dressing based.

635 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:29:17am

re: #531 _RememberTonyC
With respect, the Democrats Own The US Government. And they did it with "leaders" like Pelosi, Boxer, Waxman, Reid, Kennedy, Kerry, Murtha, Emmanuel, Obama, Mckinney, Daley, Schumer, Clinton (both of 'em) and too many others to count.
The way they have taken over the Automobile business, control the banking business, the Financial Services business, soon the Energy (utilities) business and, God help us, the Health Care business, when the government has proved time and again that they can't do ANYTHING as well or as efficiently and inexpensively as private industry means that, at the rate things are going, the Repub's could run anyone for POTUS in 2012 and win. It would be nice if the GOP could get it's act together SOON and come up with worthwhile leaders, but the Dems are overreaching SO MUCH that it won't really matter. Inflation and the cost of utilities, health care and transportation hit Americans where Americans tend to vote from - their wallets.
As Thomas Jefferson once said: "A government big enough to give you everything you need is big enough to take away everything that you have."
And let's not even try to talk about Foreign Affairs where Obama/Hillary have been a major league failure.

636 VioletTiger  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:29:22am

re: #593 UFO TOFU

What in the world is that?


Caviar should be eggs from sea kittehs...I'm a bit nervous about this one ;)

637 jaunte  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:29:33am

This morning I heard in health care news that Ted Kennedy is claiming that a $720 per employee per year fine on employers that drop their private health care insurance plans will be a disincentive for businesses to drop these plans.
If paying for private insurance programs costs $10,000 - $12,000 per person per year, this math is extremely peculiar. Seems to me it will kill off the private plans faster. Does anyone have more info about this "incentive" written into the legislation?

638 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:30:16am

re: #624 Nevergiveup

Maybe, but a gun beats a drill anytime?

Not within the length of the power cord, it evens up!

639 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:30:28am

re: #610 FrogMarch

What happens when Obama's teleprompter goes out.

POTUS without TOTUS = EPIC FAIL

640 opnion  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:31:01am

re: #538 realwest

Yep to all that you said except this: "In any case, Arthur is now generally seen as a legendary figure, not a historical figure."
Historians (real ones, not revisionist types like on the History Channel) and anthropologists do think Arthur was real - the whole thing about Camelot and knights of the Round Table, etc., probably myth. But Arthur was quite possibly a true historical figure of some note.

I read a book by Marjorie Lewellen abot 10th Century Irish King Brian Boru.
She asserts that Brian was the inspiration for King Arthur.

641 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:31:02am

re: #622 jcm

Anyone who has to script answers to questions, can't answer them honestly because they lack core values to be able to formulate an answer.

Oh, for a million sockpuppets to hammer that with up-dings!

642 soxfan4life  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:31:24am

re: #637 jaunte

This morning I heard in health care news that Ted Kennedy is claiming that a $720 per employee per year fine on employers that drop their private health care insurance plans will be a disincentive for businesses to drop these plans.
If paying for private insurance programs costs $10,000 - $12,000 per person per year, this math is extremely peculiar. Seems to me it will kill off the private plans faster. Does anyone have more info about this "incentive" written into the legislation?


If Teddy had his fingers in it it is a business killer.

643 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:31:25am

re: #634 redstateredneck

No, it's a cold or room temp dip. Oily Italian dressing based.

Oh, still sounds good. I like the cheezy buttery mushy microwave type bean dips, I bet you could do something like that with black eyed peas too.

644 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:31:38am

I found a baby hummingbird sitting by the pond thins morning. I don't think he can fly yet. Do I try to help him out?

645 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:31:44am

re: #621 Rancher

Unemployment is through the roof especially when you add in those who don't get reported like workers who are no longer looking and aren't getting unemployment insurance payments. Yet we are still understaffed at the prison where I work here in New Mexico and not just Correctional Officers. We need teachers, cooks, and secretaries. If you're not a felon and don't do drugs I can probably get you a job.

I'm alright so far...I have medical issues at the moment and would never leave my bunkhouse here in ABQ...

646 Rancher  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:32:38am

re: #536 lawhawk
Rush has finally had enough. El Rushbo to New York: Drop Dead

647 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:32:51am

re: #644 Killgore Trout

I found a baby hummingbird sitting by the pond thins morning. I don't think he can fly yet. Do I try to help him out?

hmmm ... damned good question!

648 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:32:54am

re: #631 redstateredneck

muddywood, meet Mandy. In the future, ya' might wanna watch yourself around her.
:D

Me? Nah. I'm a puddy-tat.

649 Ateam  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:33:06am

re: #573 MandyManners

650 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:33:23am

re: #644 Killgore Trout

I found a baby hummingbird sitting by the pond thins morning. I don't think he can fly yet. Do I try to help him out?

I found this.

651 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:33:34am

re: #644 Killgore Trout

I found a baby hummingbird sitting by the pond thins morning. I don't think he can fly yet. Do I try to help him out?

What could you do? Those things are so tiny. Maybe there is a nest nearby you can put him back into.

652 muddywood  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:33:50am

I've always believed that if you need to find love outside your marriage, then you need to get a divorce.
Most of the men( not all) I know that end up "cheating" after being married ten years or more ARE married to shrews.

653 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:34:00am

re: #650 OldLineTexan

I found this.

Save the air kitteh!

654 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:34:13am

re: #644 Killgore Trout

I found a baby hummingbird sitting by the pond thins morning. I don't think he can fly yet. Do I try to help him out?

Always heard dont mess with baby birds.

655 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:34:15am

re: #644 Killgore Trout

I found a baby hummingbird sitting by the pond thins morning. I don't think he can fly yet. Do I try to help him out?

I'd start working the phone--your vet might have the number for a rescue organization.

656 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:34:29am

re: #637 jaunte

This morning I heard in health care news that Ted Kennedy is claiming that a $720 per employee per year fine on employers that drop their private health care insurance plans will be a disincentive for businesses to drop these plans.
If paying for private insurance programs costs $10,000 - $12,000 per person per year, this math is extremely peculiar. Seems to me it will kill off the private plans faster. Does anyone have more info about this "incentive" written into the legislation?

To be fair, in Massachusetts the minimal fine to companies hasn't made much difference, from anything I've heard. But that is largely due to there not being a real state alternative; there are some subsidized plans if you don't make much, but for reasonably-paid employees, there isn't an alternative. Companies thus still subsidize insurance to keep the employees - and the federal tax break. Lose the tax break, and watch employer-funded plans go away fast.

657 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:34:39am

re: #637 jaunte

This morning I heard in health care news that Ted Kennedy is claiming that a $720 per employee per year fine on employers that drop their private health care insurance plans will be a disincentive for businesses to drop these plans.
If paying for private insurance programs costs $10,000 - $12,000 per person per year, this math is extremely peculiar. Seems to me it will kill off the private plans faster. Does anyone have more info about this "incentive" written into the legislation?

WTF? So a company says, hmmm...I'm paying $10 - $12K a year per employee, and if I drop that you'll fine me $720? Let's see, gosh, I'll be saving between $9,300 and $11,300 per employee if I do that.

Goes to what one poster noted about Barney Frank. Kennedy is just as illiterate economically as is Frank.

658 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:34:58am

re: #644 Killgore Trout

I found a baby hummingbird sitting by the pond thins morning. I don't think he can fly yet. Do I try to help him out?

it's somebodys lunch...it's the way of the world

659 J.S.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:35:02am

re: #610 FrogMarch

wow. just wow...(note also that he can't even think of a number...or make one up..or do an ad lib:"It'd cost us thousands! Thousands!" he couldn't even do that? imo, yet more evidence of some "number problems" here, among other things.)

660 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:35:28am

re: #641 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Oh, for a million sockpuppets to hammer that with up-dings!

Ow! Ow! Ow!

;-)

661 mfarmer1  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:35:58am

re: #534 KenJen

No kidding. Whatever happened to the PSA girls in miniskirts for crying out loud? To step back in time to experience the days when flight attendants were stewardesses and hotties at that, look no further than flying over the Pacific on one of many Asian based airlines. EVA Air hands down has the hottest air hostesses of them all.

I've seen western guys in unison at Chiang Kai-shek airport in Taiwan all put down their laptops and cell phones, and jaws for that matter as the entire cabin flight crew (at least 15 or so) lines up for inspection and walks in synchronized fashion as they pre-board a 747. Not a hair out of place. Not one blemish. Impeccable. Perfect. Way hot. Not a uniformed male in sight.

And the service, holy crap! At the end of the flight they all stand near the front of each cabin section, bow, and get an amazing round of applause (and probably a handful of business cards and marriage proposals too).

Sure, they're probably assigned desk jobs when they hit the wall at 26. But hey, who cares?

EVA Air...the only way to fly!

662 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:36:01am

re: #653 Mad Al-Jaffee

Save the air kitteh!

I like hummingbirds ... we sometimes even get the really small black ones ... they look like big bees.

It's so hot now, they are probably igniting in mid-flight.

663 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:36:04am

re: #657 subsailor68

WTF? So a company says, hmmm...I'm paying $10 - $12K a year per employee, and if I drop that you'll fine me $720? Let's see, gosh, I'll be saving between $9,300 and $11,300 per employee if I do that.

Goes to what one poster noted about Barney Frank. Kennedy is just as illiterate economically as is Frank.

Ya mean being a member of of the "Golden Sperm Club" doesn't make you an expert in economics?
/

664 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:36:06am

re: #652 muddywood

I've always believed that if you need to find love outside your marriage, then you need to get a divorce.
Most of the men( not all) I know that end up "cheating" after being married ten years or more ARE married to shrews.

How do you know? They tell you that their wives are shrews? How do you know what goes on inside their homes when no one is around?

Sounds like you think this is a fucking GET-OUT-OF-JAIL-FREE card to me.

665 jaunte  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:36:09am

re: #657 subsailor68

I thought it might be a deliberate incentive to accelerate the shift to the government-run plan.

666 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:36:21am

re: #648 MandyManners

Me? Nah. I'm a puddy-tat.

Yes, your claws are retractible.

667 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:36:22am

Awfully late to this thread but Sanford is making me cringe. He needs to muster the dignity to just resign and shut the f**k up.
Seems like his real calling in life is to write romance novels. Or whatever. Anything but get the hell out of the public square.

668 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:36:44am

OT: I think I may now have seen everything! An ad for a chia pet...yes, The One has reached the height of real celebrity and adoration!

(Warning...may cause massive beverage spew...please protect your monitor!)

669 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:04am

re: #661 mfarmer1

I can attest from personal experience that EVA has NO PROBLEM in using sexism, ageism, and look-ism to hire flight attendants.

I thought I was witnessing a beauty pageant.

670 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:09am
671 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:10am

re: #658 albusteve

it's somebodys lunch...it's the way of the world

True, but Killgore's very question is what makes us different from it.

/just saying

672 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:10am

Dont know if someone has stated this

Gov Sanford, just what is the LINE you will not cross? Rather curious. Are we to infer that you merely flirted and danced with a wide variety of women? 1st base? 2nd base? 3rd base? Come now gov, how dancing stupid do we look?

673 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:17am

the Californization of America...coming soon to a town near you!

674 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:24am

re: #585 albusteve
Maybe special ops but unlikely with only one American among the group.
Think for a minute - what is Afghanistan's biggest cash crop? And when it's made into that black paste, how much is it worth for someone who may be returning home and thought he could get a leg up financially when he leaves the service?
Just speculation on my part. But the whole idea of ONE American Soldier wandering around on his own, accompanied by 4 Afghani's is just kinda ...strange.

675 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:28am

re: #650 OldLineTexan

Hmmm...thanks.
I'm worried about doing more harm than good.

676 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:28am

re: #662 OldLineTexan

My brother and sister in law have feeders in their back yard. Those little guys are lots of fun to watch.

677 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:28am

re: #668 NY Nana

That has to be racist on some level.

678 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:33am

re: #666 Honorary Yooper

Yes, your claws are retractible.

My hiss is pretty loud at times, too.

679 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:41am

re: #635 realwest

Upding, real. Good post.

680 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:55am

re: #635 realwest

With respect, the Democrats Own The US Government. And they did it with "leaders" like Pelosi, Boxer, Waxman, Reid, Kennedy, Kerry, Murtha, Emmanuel, Obama, Mckinney, Daley, Schumer, Clinton (both of 'em) and too many others to count.
The way they have taken over the Automobile business, control the banking business, the Financial Services business, soon the Energy (utilities) business and, God help us, the Health Care business, when the government has proved time and again that they can't do ANYTHING as well or as efficiently and inexpensively as private industry means that, at the rate things are going, the Repub's could run anyone for POTUS in 2012 and win. It would be nice if the GOP could get it's act together SOON and come up with worthwhile leaders, but the Dems are overreaching SO MUCH that it won't really matter. Inflation and the cost of utilities, health care and transportation hit Americans where Americans tend to vote from - their wallets.
As Thomas Jefferson once said: "A government big enough to give you everything you need is big enough to take away everything that you have."
And let's not even try to talk about Foreign Affairs where Obama/Hillary have been a major league failure.

RW ... I agree with pretty much everything you have said. And I vote accordingly. But many people are not as dialed in to issues as you are. And the crappy media hypes the stuff I mentioned in my post, so most people look at the R's through the leftist lens of the media. In effect, the Republicans are made the victim of their own agenda. So they need to do a better "sell" job than they have in recent times. Because Obama is already paying for his reelection with our money. The time to act is upon them.

681 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:38:28am

re: #646 Rancher

Rush has finally had enough. El Rushbo to New York: Drop Dead

Tom Golisano had enough too. He left - and his parting shot was supporting Hiram Monserrate and Pedro Espada turn the state senate into a clown circus (okay, more of a clown circus than usual).

682 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:38:28am

re: #641 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Oh, for a million sockpuppets to hammer that with up-dings!

Hey, we both have ocksay uppetspay! ;)

683 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:38:37am

re: #660 jcm

Ow! Ow! Ow!

;-)

OH FOR A ZILLION SOCKPUPPETS TO ...

:D

684 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:38:42am

re: #675 Killgore Trout

Hmmm...thanks.
I'm worried about doing more harm than good.

Yes, I understand. I know little of birds; was taught to never touch a hatchling.

Of course, if it's ground-bound and unattended all day, I assume it would die or be eaten anyway.

685 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:38:58am

re: #678 MandyManners

My hiss is pretty loud at times, too.


When you hiss, does spit come out? just curious.

686 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:39:02am

re: #643 turn

Oh, still sounds good. I like the cheezy buttery mushy microwave type bean dips, I bet you could do something like that with black eyed peas too.

I have seen some recipes for hot ones. Haven't tried any yet. I try to not give mrhightechredneck too many beans, if ya know what I mean.

687 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:39:05am

re: #652 muddywood


Most of the men( not all) I know that end up "cheating" after being married ten years or more ARE married to shrews.

There's only 2 reasons women become shrews:

1. They were always that way, and the men shouldn't have married them.
2. They changed: why?

688 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:39:36am

re: #672 Eowyn2

Dont know if someone has stated this

Gov Sanford, just what is the LINE you will not cross? Rather curious. Are we to infer that you merely flirted and danced with a wide variety of women? 1st base? 2nd base? 3rd base? Come now gov, how dancing stupid do we look?

I'm wondering if he's trying to lessen the impact of his actual copulation by trying to point out how many times he had the chance to do it but didn't.

689 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:40:14am

re: #685 Nevergiveup

When you hiss, does spit come out? just curious.

It's been known to happen.

690 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:40:19am

re: #668 NY Nana

OT: I think I may now have seen everything! An ad for a chia pet...yes, The One has reached the height of real celebrity and adoration!



(Warning...may cause massive beverage spew...please protect your monitor!)

Saw these a few months ago at Walgreen's, before they pulled them from the shelves.

691 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:40:22am

re: #644 Killgore Trout

I found a baby hummingbird sitting by the pond thins morning. I don't think he can fly yet. Do I try to help him out?

Only if you want to adopt him.

692 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:40:47am

re: #686 redstateredneck

I have seen some recipes for hot ones. Haven't tried any yet. I try to not give mrhightechredneck too many beans, if ya know what I mean.

Taking away one of the sheer joys in a man's life. Sheesh.

/

693 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:40:54am

re: #648 MandyManners

Me? Nah. I'm a puddy-tat.

With vewwy shawp claws!

694 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:40:59am

re: #689 MandyManners

It's been known to happen.

I'll remember to duck then

695 Pianobuff  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:41:16am

re: #668 NY Nana

OT: I think I may now have seen everything! An ad for a chia pet...yes, The One has reached the height of real celebrity and adoration!


(Warning...may cause massive beverage spew...please protect your monitor!)

How nice. I notice on the ordering website you can select between a "happy" Chia Obama and a "determined" Chia Obama.

As the website says..."Can you grow one? Yes you can!"

696 Rancher  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:41:24am

re: #673 albusteve

the Californization of America...coming soon to a town near you!

Came last November.

697 soxfan4life  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:41:26am

re: #690 Honorary Yooper

Saw these a few months ago at Walgreen's, before they pulled them from the shelves.

Wasn't the concensus here that it would be appropriate to use pot seeds?

698 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:41:30am

re: #688 MandyManners

I'm wondering if he's trying to lessen the impact of his actual copulation by trying to point out how many times he had the chance to do it but didn't.

He may be just dumb enough to be doing exactly that.

How's it workin' for ya, Guv?

/

699 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:41:54am

re: #682 NY Nana

Hey, we both have ocksay uppetspay! ;)

But mine's an uppyspay.

/at least I THINK he's been spayed!

700 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:42:11am

re: #687 BigPapa

There's only 2 reasons women become shrews:

1. They were always that way, and the men shouldn't have married them.
2. They changed: why?

They also lie and show their true nature after getting back from the honeymoon. It sucks when that happens.

701 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:42:17am

re: #687 BigPapa

There's only 2 reasons women become shrews:

1. They were always that way, and the men shouldn't have married them.
2. They changed: why?

They married assholes?

702 Danny  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:42:37am

re: #644 Killgore Trout

I found a baby hummingbird sitting by the pond thins morning. I don't think he can fly yet. Do I try to help him out?

Go for it.

703 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:42:44am

re: #684 OldLineTexan

Yes, I understand. I know little of birds; was taught to never touch a hatchling.

Of course, if it's ground-bound and unattended all day, I assume it would die or be eaten anyway.

saw a road runner snag a tiny toad off my patio the other day...had it by one leg and was pounding it against a rock, drop it, pick it up and pound again...it was brutal...such is life

704 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:42:49am

re: #692 OldLineTexan

Taking away one of the sheer joys in a man's life. Sheesh.

/

He's plenty joyful.

705 soxfan4life  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:42:58am

re: #698 OldLineTexan

He may be just dumb enough to be doing exactly that.

How's it workin' for ya, Guv?

/


At least he isn't trying the everyone else is doing it defense

706 muddywood  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:43:10am

re: #664 MandyManners

I've met the shrew-like women.

then I found out about the "cheating" afterwards.

And I'll repeat it again so I'm crystal clear:
I've always believed that if you need to find love outside your marriage, then you need to get a divorce.

707 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:43:25am
708 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:43:35am

re: #705 soxfan4life

At least he isn't trying the everyone else is doing it defense

Heh. He'd have plenty of company for that, starting with John Edwards.

709 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:43:41am

re: #699 pre-Boomer Marine brat

But mine's an uppyspay.

/at least I THINK he's been spayed!

UH oh ... I think preview would have been my friend there !

710 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:43:44am

re: #703 albusteve

saw a road runner snag a tiny toad off my patio the other day...had it by one leg and was pounding it against a rock, drop it, pick it up and pound again...it was brutal...such is life

I am the King of Mockingbirds ... if I mow the yard, my court appears to feast on hapless insects.

711 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:44:01am

re: #705 soxfan4life

At least he isn't trying the everyone else is doing it defense

There's still daylight left.

712 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:44:06am

re: #707 buzzsawmonkey

you are the poet laureate of lgf.

713 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:44:22am
714 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:44:26am

re: #709 pre-Boomer Marine brat

UH oh ... I think preview would have been my friend there !

Yeah, that would be rather pointless, wouldn't it?

/

715 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:44:35am

out for awhile ... BBL.

716 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:44:42am

So...how is that economic StimuLess® Package working-out President Obama Dear Leader? Unemployment Is Really 10%

717 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:44:44am

Maybe Sanford should resign and open a junkyard with one of his sons.

718 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:44:44am

re: #703 albusteve

saw a road runner snag a tiny toad off my patio the other day...had it by one leg and was pounding it against a rock, drop it, pick it up and pound again...it was brutal...such is life

Nasty, brutish and short.

719 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:44:51am

What is a 'shrew' woman anyway?

720 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:45:08am

re: #591 muddywood

Sanford looks and sounds like a sad man trapped in a loveless marriage.
He had a couple of choices.
1- Get a divorce and commit political suicide
2- stay married to a shrew in a loveless marriage until he's out of public office.
3- Find love outside his marriage and hope he doesn't get caught.

All of them are bad choices. Some worse than others.
He chose #3 and then got caught.
He should've just admitted it and then kept his mouth shut and let the chips fall where they may.
I think he's cracking under the pressure.

Wrong
His Choices were
1- Be a Man, get a divorce and commit political suicide because his family is more important than politics.

2- Be a Man and honor his marriage vows to a woman whom we know nothing about until his current term as gov is over.

3- Sneak around behind his wife's back and boink anything he can find for Love. Knowing, like thousands of males and females before him, he will not get caught.

721 3 wood  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:45:14am

I assume this has been linked already but, unemployment numbers are in.

Payrolls fall by faster pace in June


The U.S. economy shed jobs at a faster pace in June than in May, suggesting that the turnaround in the economy may take longer than expected.

Nonfarm payrolls shrank by 467,000 in June, higher than the 325,000 decline expected by economists surveyed by MarketWatch and the 322,000 jobs lost in May.

The unemployment rate ticked higher to 9.5% in June from 9.4% in the previous month. Economists had expected the unemployment rate to rise to 9.6%.

There was only a very slight 8,000-downward revision to payroll losses in April and May.

The data "strongly suggest that consensus forecast for a second half recovery is overly optimistic," said Steve Ricchiuto, chief economist at Mizuho Securities in New York.


The market has dropped about 2% so far today based on this bad news.

What will by the spin by the left on this?

1. Bush's fault.

2. Those pesky Republican's don't support everything we want.

3, Unemployment's not all that bad afterall.

4. So, how about Jacko's will anyway?

But let's go ahead and nationalize health care and approve Cap and Trade anyway. That's the ticket.

722 jaunte  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:45:25am

re: #719 BigPapa

What is a 'shrew' woman anyway?

Very tiny.

723 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:45:31am

OT
Coming right up

Minnesotans for Al ___

(Al Qaeda, that is)

Yeah, Al Franken's Minnesotan-Somali constituents behaving badly, again

Fox news

724 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:45:33am

re: #707 buzzsawmonkey

You say that I am wicked
But really, you can't kick
If you think of those many times
I didn't dip the wick

--Governor Sanford

Is he saying we should not try to hold a candle to him ... or should?

725 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:45:59am

re: #706 muddywood

I've met the shrew-like women.

then I found out about the "cheating" afterwards.

And I'll repeat it again so I'm crystal clear:
I've always believed that if you need to find love outside your marriage, then you need to get a divorce.

No one NEEDS to find love outside of marriage. Whatever happened to working on one's problems in couple's counselling?

But, I agree that divorce is preferrable to cheatin' and lyin'.

726 mfarmer1  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:46:11am

re: #669 OldLineTexan

I can attest from personal experience that EVA has NO PROBLEM in using sexism, ageism, and look-ism to hire flight attendants.

I thought I was witnessing a beauty pageant.

Indeed! Even my wife (who is Chinese) is impressed by them and allows me to go into primitive male mode in their presence.

727 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:46:13am
728 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:46:13am

This is the best little book about hummingbirds.
Written by a woman who kept one for a winter when it didn't migrate in time. Excellent pictures and you learn so much about their habits.

729 Ateam  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:46:21am

re: #652 muddywood

I've always believed that if you need to find love outside your marriage, then you need to get a divorce.
Most of the men( not all) I know that end up "cheating" after being married ten years or more ARE married to shrews.

About 90% of my male friends, acquaintances and colleagues cheated during marriage. 50% of my female friends, acquaintances and colleagues.

730 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:46:32am

re: #674 realwest

Maybe special ops but unlikely with only one American among the group.
Think for a minute - what is Afghanistan's biggest cash crop? And when it's made into that black paste, how much is it worth for someone who may be returning home and thought he could get a leg up financially when he leaves the service?
Just speculation on my part. But the whole idea of ONE American Soldier wandering around on his own, accompanied by 4 Afghani's is just kinda ...strange.

Good point. Sadly, when there is that much drug money floating around, any army will have a few people succumb to temptation.

731 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:46:47am

re: #719 BigPapa

What is a 'shrew' woman anyway?

One that needs taming.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

732 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:46:54am
733 Rancher  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:46:57am

re: #668 NY Nana

OT: I think I may now have seen everything! An ad for a chia pet...yes, The One has reached the height of real celebrity and adoration!

Youtube Video

(Warning...may cause massive beverage spew...please protect your monitor!)

Can't get YouTube at work, are you really saying there is an Obama chia pet? This is no joke?

734 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:46:59am

re: #713 buzzsawmonkey

It's always the woman who spays.

See my 709
I should have neutered that comment.

735 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:47:29am

re: #722 jaunte

Very tiny.

In stature...?

736 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:47:29am

re: #710 OldLineTexan

I am the King of Mockingbirds ... if I mow the yard, my court appears to feast on hapless insects.

every living thing has it's own realm...which is why I despise trophy hunters

737 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:47:55am

re: #733 Rancher

Can't get YouTube at work, are you really saying there is an Obama chia pet? This is no joke?

I though Biden was Obama's chia pet.

738 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:48:01am

Ok, he can fly. He just sucks at it. He'll get the hang of it in an hour or so. Mama hummingbird is fluttering around now. I'll upload some pics later this afternoon.

739 soxfan4life  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:48:23am

re: #721 3 wood

I assume this has been linked already but, unemployment numbers are in.

Payrolls fall by faster pace in June


The market has dropped about 2% so far today based on this bad news.

What will by the spin by the left on this?

1. Bush's fault.

2. Those pesky Republican's don't support everything we want.

3, Unemployment's not all that bad afterall.

4. So, how about Jacko's will anyway?

But let's go ahead and nationalize health care and approve Cap and Trade anyway. That's the ticket.


It will be all about the green shoots and green jobs. Unfortunately most of America isn't buying into the green jobs and they are seeing them as brown jobs because they're based on Bullshit.

740 NonNativeTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:48:32am

re: #736 albusteve

every living thing has it's own realm...which is why I despise trophy hunters

What do you have against rich, older men?

741 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:48:37am

re: #721 3 wood
Hey my friend - thanks once again for the excellent economic analysis!
Hope you're well today!

742 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:48:45am

re: #738 Killgore Trout

Ok, he can fly. He just sucks at it. He'll get the hang of it in an hour or so. Mama hummingbird is fluttering around now. I'll upload some pics later this afternoon.

Do you have any sugar water you can set out for him? He made need a sip or two.

743 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:48:57am

re: #738 Killgore Trout

Ok, he can fly. He just sucks at it. He'll get the hang of it in an hour or so. Mama hummingbird is fluttering around now. I'll upload some pics later this afternoon.

Oh, please!

744 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:49:05am

OT
Al Franken
Al Shabab
Al Qaeda

Minnesota's got so many issues...but several Somali-Minnesotans are indicted for supporting Al Qaeda in Somalia.

Minnesotans, whazzup?

745 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:49:11am

re: #732 buzzsawmonkey

Maybe just that we shouldn't wax indignant.

Many want him snuffed out.

746 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:49:21am

re: #732 buzzsawmonkey

Maybe just that we shouldn't wax indignant.

And forget his old flames who have guttered.

747 UFO TOFU  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:49:30am

re: #721 3 wood

Our school district just announced that they're cutting bussing to middle schools this coming school year. It's going to be quite a trick for us not to have to lay off drivers.

748 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:49:38am

Japan envoy wins UN nuclear post

YUKIYA AMANO
Aged 62, veteran Japanese diplomat
Specialises in disarmament and nuclear non-proliferation
Seen as close to US on major issues, including Iran
Backed by industrialised nations

749 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:49:41am

re: #729 Ateam

About 90% of my male friends, acquaintances and colleagues cheated during marriage. 50% of my female friends, acquaintances and colleagues.

That is a very sad state of affairs. I see only 2 reasons for a divorce. Cheating and beating. Almost everything else can be worked out if both parties are willing to put in the effort.

750 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:49:48am

re: #737 redstateredneck

I though Biden was Obama's chia pet.

LOL

751 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:49:52am

re: #737 redstateredneck

I though Biden was Obama's chia pet.

0 has his own.
[Link: blogs.trb.com...]

752 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:50:01am

re: #733 Rancher

Can't get YouTube at work, are you really saying there is an Obama chia pet? This is no joke?

Yep... Obama Chia.

753 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:50:03am

re: #747 UFO TOFU

Our school district just announced that they're cutting bussing to middle schools this coming school year. It's going to be quite a trick for us not to have to lay off drivers.

Bummer. I'm sorry, {TOFU}

754 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:50:03am

re: #737 redstateredneck

I though Biden was Obama's chia pet.

* * * *
No no no.
Joe Biden is now officially in charge of Iraq & tracking the stimulus dollars.

755 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:50:04am

re: #738 Killgore Trout

Ok, he can fly. He just sucks at it. He'll get the hang of it in an hour or so. Mama hummingbird is fluttering around now. I'll upload some pics later this afternoon.

Good news!

756 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:50:11am

re: #738 Killgore Trout

Ok, he can fly. He just sucks at it. He'll get the hang of it in an hour or so. Mama hummingbird is fluttering around now. I'll upload some pics later this afternoon.

So all you need to do is keep the cats occupied?

757 Rancher  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:50:21am

All this talk about Sanford seems to be missing the real issue, the main reason I would be calling for his resignation. He left the state rudderless when he sneaked off to Argentina.

758 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:50:52am

re: #696 Rancher

Came last November.


no, that was the grand opening of Chicagoland Fun Park in DC

759 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:50:59am

re: #740 NonNativeTexan

What do you have against rich, older men?

nothing...in a different world they would be the trophie

760 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:51:07am

re: #738 Killgore Trout

Ok, he can fly. He just sucks at it. He'll get the hang of it in an hour or so. Mama hummingbird is fluttering around now. I'll upload some pics later this afternoon.

I watched some wrens once, teaching their young to fly.
It took the entire day.
Patience.

761 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:51:14am

re: #751 VegasRick

0 has his own.
[Link: blogs.trb.com...]

Lord have mercy...that green afro is creepy.

762 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:51:26am

re: #749 Erik The Red

That is a very sad state of affairs. I see only 2 reasons for a divorce. Cheating and beating. Almost everything else can be worked out if both parties are willing to put in the effort.

I see three: adultery, abuse and addiction. I add addiction only if the addict will not get help.

763 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:51:27am

re: #739 soxfan4life

It will be all about the green shoots and green jobs. Unfortunately most of America isn't buying into the green jobs and they are seeing them as brown jobs because they're based on Bullshit.

When you think about it, the Democrats seem to view the country as a petri dish they can use to test out their "theories". It's not that they're certain their programs will work; it's more that they like the idea of having a real-life laboratory.

So did Dr. Frankenstein.

764 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:51:30am
765 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:51:31am

re: #730 Dark_Falcon

Good point. Sadly, when there is that much drug money floating around, any army will have a few people succumb to temptation.

Remember my friend, that's PURE SPECULATION on my part. I hope I'm wrong and he gets back alive and in decent shape. But I'm concerned about the whole situation, starting from the set-up.

766 soxfan4life  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:51:47am

re: #757 Rancher

All this talk about Sanford seems to be missing the real issue, the main reason I would be calling for his resignation. He left the state rudderless when he sneaked off to Argentina.


That and using state funds to pay for the trip, or part of it. The offer to repay is like getting caught with your hand in the cookie jar.

767 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:51:50am

re: #721 3 wood

dammit Wood, you KNOW its FUNEMPLOYMENT

768 Momzilla  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:51:54am

re: #56 iceweasel

Sanford's 'humility' lasted about one day.

Then he moved on to comparing himself to the biblical King David, with the message being"God forgave him, so why don't you all shut up about me?"

[Link: tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

I lost all sympathy for him then. He's an arrogant, hubristic bastard, whatever else is going on with him.

Dude evidently hasn't read the Bible either. David's household and kingdom were in constant turmoil for the rest of his reign. His own son hated him so much that he chased David out of the palace and slept with his father's wives in public. David was also forbidden to build a temple to the Lord. David wasn't given the penalty prescribed by the Law (stoning) but he sure didn't get off scott free and go on his merry way.

769 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:52:14am

re: #695 Pianobuff

How nice. I notice on the ordering website you can select between a "happy" Chia Obama and a "determined" Chia Obama.

As the website says..."Can you grow one? Yes you can!"

Not a "deeply concerned" Obama?

770 Pianobuff  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:52:47am

re: #757 Rancher

All this talk about Sanford seems to be missing the real issue, the main reason I would be calling for his resignation. He left the state rudderless when he sneaked off to Argentina.

Good point. I half wonder if some of Sanford's public sentimental sputtering is to draw attention away from the more substantial governance issues that he has created... diversion by blathering or something like that.

771 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:53:02am

re: #761 redstateredneck

Lord have mercy...that green afro is creepy.

Greenist!

772 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:53:22am

re: #760 reine.de.tout

I watched some wrens once, teaching their young to fly.
It took the entire day.
Patience.

I had wrens that hatched on my back patio. The mama had built the nest in one of my potted plants on a baker's rack. I had watered so carefully so as to not disturb them. Came home one day and had little dead wrens everywhere. I forgot about the dachshund pack. Apparently, they do a lot of hopping around preflight.
:-(

773 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:53:23am

re: #761 redstateredneck

Lord have mercy...that green afro is creepy.

Someone is trying waaayyy too hard.

774 Rancher  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:53:27am

re: #752 jcm

Yep... Obama Chia.

Wow. If it were anyone else that would be considered pretty racist.

775 soxfan4life  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:54:13am

re: #769 Kosh's Shadow

Not a "deeply concerned" Obama?


That'll be the reelection and post Presidency 0bama. Trying to look like Lincoln.

776 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:54:14am

re: #752 jcm

Yep... Obama Chia.

Put some glasses on it and you get the Urkel Chia

777 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:54:33am

re: #721 3 wood

I assume this has been linked already but, unemployment numbers are in.

Payrolls fall by faster pace in June

4. So, how about Jacko's will anyway?

I predict that he's leaving everything to Bubbles the chimp.

778 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:54:33am

re: #757 Rancher

All this talk about Sanford seems to be missing the real issue, the main reason I would be calling for his resignation. He left the state rudderless when he sneaked off to Argentina.

I respectfully disagree. I want Sanford gone because of the embarrassment that he is, but being away for 4 days is not one of them. It's not like his state was going to be invaded by North Carolina or anything...

779 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:54:37am
780 J.S.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:54:40am

re: #675 Killgore Trout

Many times a mother bird will throw out chicks from a nest..(was this a chick which got tossed out?) you could look around for the nest, then gently replace the bird in the nest...If the chick gets tossed out again, then it usually indicates that the chick has problems...(and didn't just accidentally fall out of the nest).

781 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:54:43am

re: #767 Eowyn2

dammit Wood, you KNOW its FUNEMPLOYMENT

Yes it is.
We are enjoying being more frugal, having to do less with less.
We are enjoying being poorer than we were.
The World According to Obama.
Who himself doesn't seem to be enjoying much frugality.

782 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:55:02am

re: #762 MandyManners

I see three: adultery, abuse and addiction. I add addiction only if the addict will not get help.

But, this is a free nation and anyone can get a divorce for any reason. Well, I think NY state requires specific reason.

783 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:55:08am

re: #768 Momzilla

Dude evidently hasn't read the Bible either. David's household and kingdom were in constant turmoil for the rest of his reign. His own son hated him so much that he chased David out of the palace and slept with his father's wives in public. David was also forbidden to build a temple to the Lord. David wasn't given the penalty prescribed by the Law (stoning) but he sure didn't get off scott free and go on his merry way.

Plus the son who died.

784 realwest  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:55:12am

Well y'all it's been interesting as usual out here, but I have chores to do - hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

785 3 wood  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:55:22am

re: #741 realwest

Hey my friend - thanks once again for the excellent economic analysis!
Hope you're well today!

Doing fine real, just busy in the office trying to clean up some paperwork before the holiday.


At some point here, even the most ardent Obama supporters have to recognize, even if it's just to themselves, that his economic plans are not working. And it's all on the Dem's now. They have owned Congress for several years and now with Franken they have a very strong majority. They have the White House. The MSM are volunteer campaign workers.

It's all on them now, the economy, the foreign policy, all of it.

Que Mandy...

786 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:55:51am

re: #765 realwest

Remember my friend, that's PURE SPECULATION on my part. I hope I'm wrong and he gets back alive and in decent shape. But I'm concerned about the whole situation, starting from the set-up.

Still a good theory, although it's one we both hope is wrong.

787 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:55:53am

re: #771 jcm

Greenist!

I am...I need sensitivity training.

788 Ateam  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:56:01am

re: #749 Erik The Red

That is a very sad state of affairs. I see only 2 reasons for a divorce. Cheating and beating. Almost everything else can be worked out if both parties are willing to put in the effort.

Beating yes. Cheating No. IMHO

789 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:56:03am

re: #749 Erik The Red

That is a very sad state of affairs. I see only 2 reasons for a divorce. Cheating and beating. Almost everything else can be worked out if both parties are willing to put in the effort.

Emotional abuse must be swell.

790 soxfan4life  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:56:16am

re: #777 Mad Al-Jaffee

I predict that he's leaving everything to Bubbles the chimp.


Sadly with a 500 million dollar estate it will become a public money grab and Joe Jackson more than likely will be in the middle of it all.

791 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:56:16am

re: #755 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I think it would be cool if someone made a really bad horror movie about swarms of killer hummingbirds. Or has that been done already?

792 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:56:24am

re: #772 redstateredneck

I had wrens that hatched on my back patio. The mama had built the nest in one of my potted plants on a baker's rack. I had watered so carefully so as to not disturb them. Came home one day and had little dead wrens everywhere. I forgot about the dachshund pack. Apparently, they do a lot of hopping around preflight.
:-(

{redstate}
Yes, that's what happened to me, they had a nest in one of my plants on the balcony of the apt. where I was living.

And yes, they do A LOT of hopping around, for a considerable period of time, before they get the hang of it.

793 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:56:24am

re: #768 Momzilla

Dude evidently hasn't read the Bible either. David's household and kingdom were in constant turmoil for the rest of his reign. His own son hated him so much that he chased David out of the palace and slept with his father's wives in public. David was also forbidden to build a temple to the Lord. David wasn't given the penalty prescribed by the Law (stoning) but he sure didn't get off scott free and go on his merry way.

Shagging was bad, but the murdering was the one that got him...

794 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:56:32am

re: #767 Eowyn2

dammit Wood, you KNOW its FUNEMPLOYMENT

You mean, FuckingUNEMPLOYMENT?

795 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:56:42am

re: #719 BigPapa

What is a 'shrew' woman anyway?

Hilliary divided by 2

796 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:56:57am

re: #788 Ateam

Beating yes. Cheating No. IMHO

You don't think a spouse should be able to divorce someone who's whoring around?

797 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:57:20am

re: #785 3 wood

Mady, catchphrase time!

798 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:57:26am

re: #782 MandyManners

But, this is a free nation and anyone can get a divorce for any reason. Well, I think NY state requires specific reason.

I do not like the no fault divorce law. A lot of women and children have been hurt by it, IMHO.

799 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:57:39am

re: #789 debutaunt

Emotional abuse must be swell.

It leaves no visible scars but its effects can be devestating.

800 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:57:42am

re: #794 Honorary Yooper

You mean, FuckingUNEMPLOYMENT?

I have not heard from the company I interviewed with 2 weeks ago. Maybe they have not made a decision yet.

801 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:57:43am

re: #748 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Japan envoy wins UN nuclear post

North Korea will declare war over this.
/slightly sarc

802 soxfan4life  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:57:56am

re: #788 Ateam

Beating yes. Cheating No. IMHO


How is the betrayed spouse supposd to trust the cheater again?

803 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:58:07am

re: #789 debutaunt

Emotional abuse must be swell.

I would include that in the beating category.

804 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:58:07am
805 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:58:27am

The U.S. administration has not been successful in securing commitments from Arab countries to take steps toward normalizing relations with Israel, a senior source in Jerusalem said Wednesday.

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

Gee I don't hear much about that, just about all them dam Israeli Carpenters screwing up the works?
/

806 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:58:31am

re: #690 Honorary Yooper

Saw these a few months ago at Walgreen's, before they pulled them from the shelves.

Today is the first time I saw it, and it was advertised on the 11 AM news, no less. I sat here thinking it was a joke, so help me! Apparently they are going the TV route re advertising now...not at the point of offering 2 for the price of 1, though.

807 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:58:45am

re: #796 MandyManners

You don't think a spouse should be able to divorce someone who's whoring around?

Or kill him?

808 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:58:48am

re: #798 redstateredneck

I do not like the no fault divorce law. A lot of women and children have been hurt by it, IMHO.

A lot of men too.

809 jaunte  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:59:03am

re: #785 3 wood


At some point here, even the most ardent Obama supporters have to recognize, even if it's just to themselves, that his economic plans are not working. And it's all on the Dem's now. They have owned Congress for several years and now with Franken they have a very strong majority. They have the White House. The MSM are volunteer campaign workers.

Reading some of the comments at the Dailybeast, the denial is still very deep:

SC0TTBL4M
plantagenet
Why don't you actually wait for the results of what he's doing before you start complaining. Bush and his admins had 8 years to ruin america and you expect obama to turn america into a debtless prosperous nation in 5 months... come back to reality

oldpunk
you have to be quite a idiot if you think that mess left for him could be sorted out in less then 6 months.
USA is one of the only countries in the west that does not have free health care.
It is amazing to see so called patriots rather save a few dollars in tax then help their fellow countrymen who are probably worse off.
Free health care should be a human right like in other countries ,especially a country which beats its own chest about how great and free it is.[Link: www.thedailybeast.com...]

810 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:59:12am

re: #800 Alouette

I have not heard from the company I interviewed with 2 weeks ago. Maybe they have not made a decision yet.

CALL!

811 3 wood  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:59:38am

re: #767 Eowyn2

dammit Wood, you KNOW its FUNEMPLOYMENT

As the reality of the current Administration's economic failures starts to become more and more undeniable, I expect to start hearing about lowering our expectations.

You know, the typical lefty spin stuff...we consumed too many resources for way too long,... lived too high of a standard of living...it's healthy to do with a lot less in your life...retirement is overrated anyway, that sort of thing.

812 No. Just, no.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:59:46am

re: #796 MandyManners

You don't think a spouse should be able to divorce someone who's whoring around?

Don't forget the literal health risk that you are in if your spouse is sleeping with other people, and you as well.

813 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:00:01am

re: #798 redstateredneck

I do not like the no fault divorce law. A lot of women and children have been hurt by it, IMHO.

What if it's the woman who wants to bail?

Also, fault-only divorce can require a lot of money to establish the grounds--hiring a P.I. to track the straying partner. Also, sometimes people don't want others to know what they endured in a bad marriage--it can take a strong woman to admit that she suffered abuse for years.

814 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:00:03am

re: #806 NY Nana

Today is the first time I saw it, and it was advertised on the 11 AM news, no less. I sat here thinking it was a joke, so help me! Apparently they are going the TV route re advertising now...not at the point of offering 2 for the price of 1, though.

Not even Billy Mays could sell that crap.

815 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:00:16am

re: #760 reine.de.tout

I watched some wrens once, teaching their young to fly.
It took the entire day.
Patience.

Patience? I takes much longer to teach a teenager to drive.

816 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:00:33am

re: #790 soxfan4life

Sadly with a 500 million dollar estate it will become a public money grab and Joe Jackson more than likely will be in the middle of it all.

he owes a substantial amount to debts...his most valuable asset was his Beatles rights and I read where he willed them to McCartney

817 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:00:40am

re: #793 Oh no...Sand People!

Shagging was bad, but the murdering was the one that got him...

In the Geneology in Matthew..

David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah's wife,


It is still remembered as a warning, but also that redemption is available.

818 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:00:53am

re: #807 Nevergiveup

Or kill him?

My wife would cut off my balls first, than kill me.
Yes I am very afraid of my beautiful wife

819 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:00:54am

re: #807 Nevergiveup

Or kill him?

That's a tad bit over the line.

820 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:01:11am

re: #812 EmmmieG

Don't forget the literal health risk that you are in if your spouse is sleeping with other people, and you as well.

Ya dam right, my wife would "bobbit" mine if I ever did!

821 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:01:27am
822 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:01:30am

re: #814 VegasRick

Not even Billy Mays could sell that crap.

Well not now I guess?

823 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:01:37am

re: #785 3 wood

Doing fine real, just busy in the office trying to clean up some paperwork before the holiday.


At some point here, even the most ardent Obama supporters have to recognize, even if it's just to themselves, that his economic plans are not working. And it's all on the Dem's now. They have owned Congress for several years and now with Franken they have a very strong majority. They have the White House. The MSM are volunteer campaign workers.

It's all on them now, the economy, the foreign policy, all of it.

Que Mandy...

Excellent!

824 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:01:47am

re: #812 EmmmieG

Don't forget the literal health risk that you are in if your spouse is sleeping with other people, and you as well.

Your garden-variety STD's, HIV and hepatitis C come to mind. Oh, and cervical cancer.

825 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:01:52am

re: #809 jaunte

oldpunk
you have to be quite a idiot if you think that mess left for him could be sorted out in less then 6 months.
USA is one of the only countries in the west that does not have free health care.
It is amazing to see so called patriots rather save a few dollars in tax then help their fellow countrymen who are probably worse off.
Free health care should be a human right like in other countries ,especially a country which beats its own chest about how great and free it is.

Mind-numbing stupidity. And he votes.

826 Mithrax  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:01:53am

Hmmm...perhaps I'll put on hold the search for a future Mrs. Mithrax.

827 No. Just, no.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:02:15am

re: #813 MandyManners

What if it's the woman who wants to bail?

Also, fault-only divorce can require a lot of money to establish the grounds--hiring a P.I. to track the straying partner. Also, sometimes people don't want others to know what they endured in a bad marriage--it can take a strong woman to admit that she suffered abuse for years.

I've always thought we should revert to no-fault-by-mutual-consent law, but I'm against unilateral no-fault.

However, as the sister of a DV victim, you should always be able to leave someone who has grotesquely violated their marriage vows.

828 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:02:22am
829 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:02:42am

re: #818 Erik The Red

My wife would cut off my balls first, than kill me.
Yes I am very afraid of my beautiful wife

So am I.

/ducking

830 soxfan4life  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:02:44am

re: #816 albusteve

he owes a substantial amount to debts...his most valuable asset was his Beatles rights and I read where he willed them to McCartney

Alot is in trust for his kids, so I see a big battle for control of the kids to get control of the trust fund. As for debt, he had insurance and some of that debt will be forgiven. He also left over 100 unreleased recordings for his children, that should provide some serious cash infusion.

831 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:02:45am

re: #819 MandyManners

That's a tad bit over the line.

Yeah, your right, then you probably would not be able to collect on his life insurance. What was I thinking?
/guess I should have used this at first ha?

832 jaunte  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:02:47am

re: #825 subsailor68

I'm guessing he's not running a business.

833 CIA Reject  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:02:59am

re: #824 MandyManners

Your garden-variety STD's, HIV and hepatitis C come to mind. Oh, and cervical cancer.

A fact conveniently forgotten by the "oh, it's just sex" crowd...

834 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:03:18am

re: #822 Nevergiveup

Well not now I guess?

That's not what I meant (but I get your point).

835 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:03:39am

For those still curious about progress at Ground Zero, here's the latest update, including a link to video showing a major concrete pour for the plaza outside 1WTC (aka the Freedom Tower).

836 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:03:42am

re: #785 3 wood

Doing fine real, just busy in the office trying to clean up some paperwork before the holiday.


At some point here, even the most ardent Obama supporters have to recognize, even if it's just to themselves, that his economic plans are not working. And it's all on the Dem's now. They have owned Congress for several years and now with Franken they have a very strong majority. They have the White House. The MSM are volunteer campaign workers.

It's all on them now, the economy, the foreign policy, all of it.

Que Mandy...

Whistling thru the graveyard here but I think the Democrats ownership of this can be a good thing. Most things that government does has latent effects that only become apparent years after the fact. With changes in control of branches in the intervening years the cause and effect relationship gets easily clouded.
Clinton's success with the economy was largely due to the policy's that Reagan enacted but the issue is blurred since there was a change in power between the two.
In this case it should become crystal clear who owns the success or the failure. Most thinking people know that it will be a failure. This should give the democrats pause and cool some of their idealogical ardor but I am fairly confident that it won't.

837 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:03:49am

re: #813 MandyManners

What if it's the woman who wants to bail?

Also, fault-only divorce can require a lot of money to establish the grounds--hiring a P.I. to track the straying partner. Also, sometimes people don't want others to know what they endured in a bad marriage--it can take a strong woman to admit that she suffered abuse for years.

I've just had a lot of friends who were dumped for younger models. I'm sure it can work both ways.

838 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:04:00am

bbl

839 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:04:01am

re: #827 EmmmieG

I've always thought we should revert to no-fault-by-mutual-consent law, but I'm against unilateral no-fault.

However, as the sister of a DV victim, you should always be able to leave someone who has grotesquely violated their marriage vows.

What if a spouse abandons the other spouse and their children? Shouldn't notice-by-publication not be available or should the spouse be tied to the leaver forever?

840 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:04:07am

re: #829 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

So am I.

/ducking

You're afraid of Erik's wife?
/

841 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:04:21am

re: #832 jaunte

I'm guessing he's not running a business.

LOL! I'm guessing he doesn't even have a job. (Not because of layoffs, but because prospective employers can't fathom what they could possibly do with someone this dense.)

842 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:04:27am

re: #830 soxfan4life

Alot is in trust for his kids, so I see a big battle for control of the kids to get control of the trust fund. As for debt, he had insurance and some of that debt will be forgiven. He also left over 100 unreleased recordings for his children, that should provide some serious cash infusion.

ten years from now his estate will be worth a coupla billion...

843 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:04:35am

re: #733 Rancher

Can't get YouTube at work, are you really saying there is an Obama chia pet? This is no joke?

On my Girl Scout's honor! There really is.

844 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:04:36am

re: #826 Mithrax

Hmmm...perhaps I'll put on hold the search for a future Mrs. Mithrax.

Don't be shy. Marriage is what two people make of it.

845 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:05:04am

re: #840 VegasRick

You're afraid of Erik's wife?
/

Most of my mates are afraid of my wife. :)

846 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:05:05am

re: #800 Alouette

I have not heard from the company I interviewed with 2 weeks ago. Maybe they have not made a decision yet.

Have you followed up? Some companies can take their time; others move fast. And it depends on how many other people they're interviewing.
But do call and find out.
One important question at the interview is to ask when you should hear something, so you'll know when to call.

847 MandyManners  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:05:20am

That floor won't mop itself. Have a great morning, Lizards!

848 Mithrax  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:05:22am

re: #844 MandyManners

Don't be shy. Marriage is what two people make of it.

Oh I know, it's just finding someone that will put up with me, THATS the hard part :P

849 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:05:28am

re: #815 Kosh's Shadow

Patience? I takes much longer to teach a teenager to drive.

I taught mine how to drive in the cemetery. Speed bumps about every 20 yards. After they mastered it, we struck out for the streets and roads. Interstate driving last.

850 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:05:47am

re: #809 jaunte

Right to obtain / access...
That's the right, you shouldn't be prevented from obtaining health care.

Right to have provided..
No such thing.

Very fundamental; a right can place no demands on anyone else.

851 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:06:04am

Let's see if this works: Baby hummingbird pics

He flitted around the garden a bit. I was worried that he'd land in the pond and drown. After a few tries he got the hang of it, took a victory lap around the garden and took off. Mama bird was close behind.

852 soxfan4life  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:06:13am

re: #842 albusteve

ten years from now his estate will be worth a coupla billion...

That's why there are going to be so many fighting over the kids. Sadly none of them wil be doing it for the best interest of the children.

853 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:06:16am

re: #817 jcm

It is still remembered as a warning, but also that redemption is available.

God never stopped loving him. I count on that, too!

854 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:06:22am

re: #849 redstateredneck

I taught mine how to drive in the cemetery. Speed bumps about every 20 yards. After they mastered it, we struck out for the streets and roads. Interstate driving last.

Umm...those weren't speed bumps.

;-)

(I know, I know. Sick.)

855 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:06:26am

re: #847 MandyManners

That floor won't mop itself. Have a great morning, Lizards!

Later 2M. When I log off in the next hour or so my next post will be my first on US soil.

856 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:06:35am

re: #845 Erik The Red

Most of my mates are afraid of my wife. :)

I don't even know her and I'm already ascaired!

857 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:06:36am

re: #825 subsailor68

My health care is not free. I pay for it through taxes, taxes, taxes. Half our provincial budget here in Ontario, Canada, goes towards health care. If it's not more. With an aging population as well those figures are going to be increasing.

858 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:06:50am

Another business leaves NY in the dust.. BMI, which holds music rights, is shifting jobs from NYC to Tennessee.

The organization, Broadcast Music Inc., which collects license fees on behalf of songwriters, composers and music publishers, including Mr. Jackson, who died last Thursday at age 50, has gradually shifted the bulk of its jobs to Music Row in Nashville from West 57th Street in Manhattan, said Robbin Ahrold, a spokesman for B.M.I. It now has about 140 jobs in the city, down from a peak of about 500, and plans to move about 110 of them into two floors of 7 World Trade Center in the spring.

Most of the remaining jobs in New York will be executive positions and those of employees who deal with the TV and radio broadcasters based in the city or overseas, Mr. Ahrold said. Most of the employees who are busy these days tracking all of the performances of Mr. Jackson’s music and collecting royalties on them are in Nashville.

859 No. Just, no.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:06:51am

re: #839 MandyManners

What if a spouse abandons the other spouse and their children? Shouldn't notice-by-publication not be available or should the spouse be tied to the leaver forever?

I consider that to be included in violation of marriage vows. This is a hard area to classify, and I think everyone has seen some pretty hard cases.

860 jaunte  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:07:36am

re: #850 jcm

Very fundamental; a right can place no demands on anyone else.


That's a distinction the permanently puerile can't grasp.

861 soxfan4life  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:07:46am

re: #857 BlueCanuck

My health care is not free. I pay for it through taxes, taxes, taxes. Half our provincial budget here in Ontario, Canada, goes towards health care. If it's not more. With an aging population as well those figures are going to be increasing.


But 0bamacare is going to be so much better and more efficient.///

862 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:07:48am

re: #688 MandyManners

I'm wondering if he's trying to lessen the impact of his actual copulation by trying to point out how many times he had the chance to do it but didn't.

Of course he is.
and the idea that it MUST be his wife's shrewish nature that caused this is ludicrous.
I am one of those women who BECAME a shrew after marriage. After Waiting countless nights for my drunken husband to get home safeley, hopefully not killing anyone on the way.
Watching him flirt and dance with his 'friends'
FINALLY bitchslapping him with divorce papers when he brought the one in a million home to meet me.

And some of his friends and relatives accused me of being the shrew. Of course I was a shrew. I hadn't had a decent night's sleep in four years. But I had the backing of his mother and grandmother in the divorce. Take that sucker.

863 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:08:04am

re: #799 MandyManners

It leaves no visible scars but its effects can be devestating.

It links some generations in a horrible way.

864 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:08:08am

re: #857 BlueCanuck

My health care is not free. I pay for it through taxes, taxes, taxes. Half our provincial budget here in Ontario, Canada, goes towards health care. If it's not more. With an aging population as well those figures are going to be increasing.

Hi BlueCanuck! Exactly! I had no idea you guys were at half your provincial budget already. That's frightening.

865 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:08:30am

re: #854 subsailor68

Umm...those weren't speed bumps.

;-)

(I know, I know. Sick.)

Eeeewww!
:-0

866 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:08:36am

re: #858 lawhawk

Another business leaves NY in the dust.. BMI, which holds music rights, is shifting jobs from NYC to Tennessee.

Obviously the only way to increase revenue from all these businesses leaving will be to raise fees and establish new taxes.

/

867 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:09:06am

re: #809 jaunte

Reading that drivel makes me sick to my stomach. I like their idea of riding the 'death sprial' all the way to the bottom. Great plan there. /s

you have to be quite a idiot if you think that mess left for him could be sorted out in less then 6 months.
USA is one of the only countries in the west that does not have free health care.It is amazing to see so called patriots rather save a few dollars in tax then help their fellow countrymen who are probably worse off.

This comment in particular is fascinating.
1) I must be A idiot.
2) I didn't know that the rest of the world has FREE health care.
3) If it's so FREE I guess there are no tax dollars to save.
4) It's not just TAX dollars. It's my freakin' money dumbass.

868 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:09:32am

Just checking: Can you guys see the pics on #851?
Comcast's publishing software sucks, can't tell if it's public or not.

869 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:09:51am
870 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:09:56am

re: #699 pre-Boomer Marine brat

But mine's an uppyspay.

/at least I THINK he's been spayed!

ROTFL! I just knew that you would say that! Better check to be sure, though...and watch out for an extra sock in the drier.

871 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:10:17am

re: #806 NY Nana

Today is the first time I saw it, and it was advertised on the 11 AM news, no less. I sat here thinking it was a joke, so help me! Apparently they are going the TV route re advertising now...not at the point of offering 2 for the price of 1, though.

But wait! Get a free Michelle Babydaddy poster.

872 Ateam  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:10:20am

re: #796 MandyManners

You don't think a spouse should be able to divorce someone who's whoring around?

re: #811 3 wood

It's a matter of measure. whoring around is too much. cheating rarely (and discretely) is another side of the coin.

With keeping in mind what said 3wood.

873 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:10:30am

re: #868 Killgore Trout

Just checking: Can you guys see the pics on #851?
Comcast's publishing software sucks, can't tell if it's public or not.

Yes.

874 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:10:45am

re: #868 Killgore Trout

Just checking: Can you guys see the pics on #851?
Comcast's publishing software sucks, can't tell if it's public or not.

re: #851 Killgore Trout

Yes, and I've never seen a hummingbird that looks like that. It must be going to lose it's feathers and grow out a solid color or something.

875 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:11:00am

re: #851 Killgore Trout

Let's see if this works: Baby hummingbird pics

He flitted around the garden a bit. I was worried that he'd land in the pond and drown. After a few tries he got the hang of it, took a victory lap around the garden and took off. Mama bird was close behind.

Cool! Where do you live? Your hummingbirds are totally different than ours. We have the ruby throated green ones. I've never seen one like that.

876 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:11:03am

re: #868 Killgore Trout

Yup. They're accessible.

877 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:11:12am

re: #800 Alouette

I have not heard from the company I interviewed with 2 weeks ago. Maybe they have not made a decision yet.

I sincerely hope that's the case. But if the answer is no, they should have the courtesy of calling or emailing you. As my husband has been searching, I've noticed that very few places do.

878 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:11:14am
879 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:11:20am

re: #873 VegasRick

Cool, thanks.

880 Momzilla  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:11:42am

re: #862 Eowyn2

Of course he is.
and the idea that it MUST be his wife's shrewish nature that caused this is ludicrous.

Really! I wonder how much more passion and spiritual connection he'd have found at home if he was writing those sappy letters, etc. to his WIFE.

881 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:12:09am

re: #879 Killgore Trout

Cool, thanks.

YW. Cool pics by the way.

882 J.S.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:12:20am

re: #868 Killgore Trout

I can see the pics -- you know that baby bird looks pretty large (for a hummingbird or is it just the camera's enlargement which gives that impression?)...I wonder what kind of hummingbird it is...

883 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:12:35am

re: #857 BlueCanuck

My health care is not free. I pay for it through taxes, taxes, taxes. Half our provincial budget here in Ontario, Canada, goes towards health care. If it's not more. With an aging population as well those figures are going to be increasing.

They're not going to increase, because they'll simply ship out the toughest cases to the US... for now.

884 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:12:50am
885 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:13:01am

re: #857 BlueCanuck

OT, but somehow you have turned green...feeling OK? ;)

But OTOH, you are a Lizard...this is a bit confusing.

886 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:13:05am

gov Sanford
M Jackson...
have lost all meaning...I am totally uninterested dood

887 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:13:15am

re: #875 redstateredneck

I'm in Oregon. We get those copper colored ones here in the summer but we have humming birds all year round here. Even in the snow they show up to drink out of the fountain. I have no idea how they survive here in the winter.

888 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:13:18am

re: #851 Killgore Trout

Let's see if this works: Baby hummingbird pics

He flitted around the garden a bit. I was worried that he'd land in the pond and drown. After a few tries he got the hang of it, took a victory lap around the garden and took off. Mama bird was close behind.

Nice!

889 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:13:34am

re: #877 doppelganglander

I sincerely hope that's the case. But if the answer is no, they should have the courtesy of calling or emailing you. As my husband has been searching, I've noticed that very few places do.

Well, I just sent them an email asking how are things, and letting them know I am still interested in the position.

If they chose another candidate, maybe he or she didn't pass the security check?

Maybe they are putting off making a decision until after July 4?

I know that I am qualified for this job and I really want it, but if they choose someone else, I'll just keep looking.

890 jaunte  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:13:47am

New Honduran Government Defies OAS Ultimatum
The interim Honduran president has rejected an ultimatum from American governments to reinstate ousted leader Manuel Zelaya to the presidency. The ongoing political crisis has sparked new protests.
[Link: www.voanews.com...]

891 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:13:47am

re: #882 J.S.

He was about the size of a golf ball.

892 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:14:19am

re: #877 doppelganglander

I sincerely hope that's the case. But if the answer is no, they should have the courtesy of calling or emailing you. As my husband has been searching, I've noticed that very few places do.

In most cases, when I called, at least I could get an answer.
But around 10 years ago, the HR person wouldn't return my calls once the day was reached when he said he'd get back to me. Turns out the company had a reputation for that. At the time, they were independent, now bought by IBM. I won't give the company name, but the are in Cambridge, MA; their first big product was known by numbers, and their current one is referred to as "bloats".
I can handle the "no".

893 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:14:46am
894 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:14:48am

re: #891 Killgore Trout

He was about the size of a golf ball.

Of which about 80% was probably fluff ..

895 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:15:00am

re: #889 Alouette

Well, I just sent them an email asking how are things, and letting them know I am still interested in the position.

If they chose another candidate, maybe he or she didn't pass the security check?

Maybe they are putting off making a decision until after July 4?

I know that I am qualified for this job and I really want it, but if they choose someone else, I'll just keep looking.

CALL!

896 3 wood  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:15:30am

re: #836 LGoPs

Whistling thru the graveyard here but I think the Democrats ownership of this can be a good thing. Most things that government does has latent effects that only become apparent years after the fact. With changes in control of branches in the intervening years the cause and effect relationship gets easily clouded.
Clinton's success with the economy was largely due to the policy's that Reagan enacted but the issue is blurred since there was a change in power between the two.


I understand your point. I'm looking at it from a little different perspective, and that is cleaning up this mess after the Democrats get done with their gallop to socialism.

An old firefighter once told e "We put out the fire out on the way up or the way down. It's just a matter of when we get there."

I have given up on putting out this fire on the way up. The Dem's have the power and the apparent intent to wreck the economy (much beyond a mere recessions) in pursuit of their extreme left agenda.

I'm looking at the mess we will have when the electorate has enough of this.

897 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:15:47am

re: #891 Killgore Trout

He was about the size of a golf ball.

Then I'd recommend a sand wedge. Play it back in your stance and open the club face.

;-)

898 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:16:12am

re: #851 Killgore Trout

Hummingbird photo

Scroll down to the bottom of the page on this link and click the picture thats titled "Up Close and Personal". I took this at 11 Mile Canyon in Colorado last summer. That was without using the zoom. We were sitting on some rocks eating lunch and this hummingbird flew in and sat, literally, right next to us.

899 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:16:12am

re: #855 Erik The Red

Later 2M. When I log off in the next hour or so my next post will be my first on US soil.

Welcome back.

900 Macker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:16:17am

Sanford: "OWWWOOOooo!"

901 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:16:38am

re: #850 jcm

They already have a right to health care: to pursue it.

902 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:17:16am

re: #884 buzzsawmonkey

Neat pics. Hummingbirds are cool.

a few weeks back I was at Home Depot buying flowers in their semi indoor thing...hummingbirds of all sizes and color were swarming over the plants, unaffraid of roaming customers...I could count fifteen or twenty at any time and you could watch them feed from just a couple of feet away...there was a lady taking pictures of them and she was utterly delighted...New Mexico is chock full of them

903 Erik The Red  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:17:19am

re: #899 Honorary Yooper

Welcome back.

Thanks. Not back yet. 30 hours of traveling still to do.

904 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:17:34am

re: #864 subsailor68

Well I was off a little bit, not quite half but damned close. These figures are from the 2005 budget where annual income was 83.9 billion and health care funding was 35.4 billion. And it was increasing.

905 turn  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:17:48am

re: #897 subsailor68

Then I'd recommend a sand wedge. Play it back in your stance and open the club face.

;-)

ha. My BIL actually got a birdie one time. Yeah, he took out a humming bird on his back swing on the sixth hole at Carmel Valley Country Club. True story.

906 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:18:01am

re: #891 Killgore Trout

He was about the size of a golf ball.

FORE!...problem solved

907 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:18:03am

re: #897 subsailor68

Then I'd recommend a sand wedge. Play it back in your stance and open the club face.

;-)

You are so on PETA's list now...

908 3 wood  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:18:32am

re: #857 BlueCanuck

My health care is not free.

And therein is the lie that is being perpetrated by the supporters of the single payer system.

It's never free, but this issue who gets stuck with the bill. The game is to try to make somebody else pay for the health care, thus the demonizing of "the rich" by the left.

909 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:19:28am

re: #889 Alouette

Well, I just sent them an email asking how are things, and letting them know I am still interested in the position.

If they chose another candidate, maybe he or she didn't pass the security check?

Maybe they are putting off making a decision until after July 4?

I know that I am qualified for this job and I really want it, but if they choose someone else, I'll just keep looking.

The security check can definitely be an issue, or the holiday. Sometimes another person is hired and just doesn't work out, and a month later you're called and asked if you're still interested. That's what happened to my younger daughter. You seem to be in good spirits and are continuing to look, which is half the battle -- an amazing number of people just give up. We are all pulling for you here!

910 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:19:41am

re: #860 jaunte

That's a distinction the permanently puerile can't grasp.

That's scary. They think a right is 'to have something provided for me.' They don't realize that the something they think they have a right to needs to be paid for, therefore those assets need to be forcibly collected to pay for those things.

The only means to that is fascism.

911 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:19:56am

re: #878 Iron Fist

That is how me and my ex-wife divorced. What would have been the point in a long trial fight? We had no assets to speak of, no children. I think we both realized that our getting married was a mistake. It took over a year to get the no fault divorce (you have to be seperated for a year in South Carolina, or at least you did back then), but it was, in the end, the best way to end a bad mistake.

That's what it was intended to be...for couples who mutually decided to divorce, but I've had friends who were screwed over and the husband filed no fault.

912 subsailor68  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:20:15am

re: #904 BlueCanuck

Well I was off a little bit, not quite half but damned close. These figures are from the 2005 budget where annual income was 83.9 billion and health care funding was 35.4 billion. And it was increasing.

Well, my friend, you sure as heck weren't off by much. And that's 2005! It may be exactly what you estimated by now. Maddening!

913 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:20:16am

re: #885 NY Nana

heh, that's my twitter avatar when I was focusing on the Iranian election protests couple of weeks ago. Coloured it green to show support.

914 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:20:39am

re: #898 CommonCents

Great photo!

915 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:20:46am

re: #887 Killgore Trout

I'm in Oregon. We get those copper colored ones here in the summer but we have humming birds all year round here. Even in the snow they show up to drink out of the fountain. I have no idea how they survive here in the winter.

Interesting, thanks.

916 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:20:53am

re: #892 Kosh's Shadow

In most cases, when I called, at least I could get an answer.
But around 10 years ago, the HR person wouldn't return my calls once the day was reached when he said he'd get back to me. Turns out the company had a reputation for that. At the time, they were independent, now bought by IBM. I won't give the company name, but the are in Cambridge, MA; their first big product was known by numbers, and their current one is referred to as "bloats".
I can handle the "no".

I used to be a recruiter, and believe me, we couldn't get some companies to give us an answer, either. I don't expect a response to everyone who submitted a resume, but if you got as far as a face to face interview, you deserve the courtesy of a phone call or email.

917 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:20:55am

re: #868 Killgore Trout

Just checking: Can you guys see the pics on #851?
Comcast's publishing software sucks, can't tell if it's public or not.

I saw two photos.

918 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:21:00am

re: #878 Iron Fist

I left this for you last night...

919 Son of the Black Dog  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:21:25am

re: #789 debutaunt

Emotional abuse must be swell.

Verbal and emotional abuse can be just as bad, perhaps even worse, than physical abuse (non-sexual). I've witnessed the results of an extreme case and that individual is scarred for life - inside.

920 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:21:51am

re: #916 doppelganglander

I had an interview about a year ago and didn't hear from the organization until six weeks later (rejection email.)

921 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:22:27am

re: #898 CommonCents

Very cool photo.

922 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:22:31am

re: #914 Mad Al-Jaffee

Great photo!

Thanks! I would love to live out there in Co Springs but I'm tied to a dead market house in a dead market job in the deceased state of Michigan.

923 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:22:34am

re: #908 3 wood

When I do income taxes there is a line item on the provincial side. Since I am single I pay an extra $300 dollars for health care. It ranges on the size of the family. Not to mention my provincial income tax, provincial sales tax, liscence fees...

924 Rancher  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:22:51am

re: #778 LGoPs

I respectfully disagree. I want Sanford gone because of the embarrassment that he is, but being away for 4 days is not one of them. It's not like his state was going to be invaded by North Carolina or anything...

North Carolina, no. A tornado however might have. Any emergency, natural, man made such as haz mat, terrorists attack, prison uprising, whatever, that would require the National Guard or an emergency declaration would need the Governors immediate attention and presence.

925 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:22:52am

Lunch!
BBL

926 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:23:05am

OT
Taliban talking on Afghan news wire about that US soldier who left his post, saying he was drunk at the time.

per Fox News

927 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:23:35am

re: #898 CommonCents

Hummingbird photo

Scroll down to the bottom of the page on this link and click the picture thats titled "Up Close and Personal". I took this at 11 Mile Canyon in Colorado last summer. That was without using the zoom. We were sitting on some rocks eating lunch and this hummingbird flew in and sat, literally, right next to us.

Nice pic. They aren't very shy birds. They fly right up to me all the time. Very curious.

928 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:23:39am

re: #908 3 wood

And therein is the lie that is being perpetrated by the supporters of the single payer system.

It's never free, but this issue who gets stuck with the bill. The game is to try to make somebody else pay for the health care, thus the demonizing of "the rich" by the left.

The rich will pay for this dearly, once you realize that they've defined rich down to anyone who is left paying taxes (pretty much everyone not already on the dole).

929 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:24:30am

re: #916 doppelganglander

I used to be a recruiter, and believe me, we couldn't get some companies to give us an answer, either. I don't expect a response to everyone who submitted a resume, but if you got as far as a face to face interview, you deserve the courtesy of a phone call or email.

And this was after an interview. At least I was employed at the time; just looking for a better job. (I was working on Unix applications, on the expensive Unix systems - Sun, SCO, HP, etc., and could see desktop apps on Unix were becoming dinosaurs. But the company I was working for didn't want to move me to their PC product, while the person on it wanted to work on Unix. We both eventually left.)

930 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:24:31am

re: #836 LGoPs

Clinton's success with the economy was largely due to the policy's that Reagan enacted but the issue is blurred since there was a change in power between the two..

A very significant factor was the advent of the internet and all it's related businesses, the massive VC campaign to create this new economy, and the timing of Clinton coming in at the end of a mild recession and leaving at the beginning of another possible one. He got pretty lucky in that he was able to balance budgets and have a few surpluses. He gets a little too much credit for that.

931 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:24:39am

I wonder what sort of tax and spend policies BO would describe to save Flint, MI?...how union labor and entitlements can save that sorry town

932 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:24:52am

Looks like even in death Joe Jackson is making money off his son. The general public will pay $25 to attend MJ's funeral.

[Link: www.radaronline.com...]

933 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:25:18am

re: #839 MandyManners

What if a spouse abandons the other spouse and their children? Shouldn't notice-by-publication not be available or should the spouse be tied to the leaver forever?

(twang) D-i-v-o-r-c-e
Not to mention mental abuse. So sly to compliment one and compare them to someone 'better' at the same time..

934 Son of the Black Dog  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:25:45am

re: #790 soxfan4life

Sadly with a 500 million dollar estate it will become a public money grab and Joe Jackson more than likely will be in the middle of it all.

Apparently Jacko left a will, and it sounds like it was well drafted. I'd have bet money that he would have been so superstitious as to never want to address the possibility of dying, and thus die intestate, and with no clear guardianship arrangement. Sounds like his lawyer was better than the other people around him.

935 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:25:56am
936 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:26:01am

re: #920 Mad Al-Jaffee

I had an interview about a year ago and didn't hear from the organization until six weeks later (rejection email.)

I guess that's better than never hearing at all. Some jobs do have a very long hiring process.

My husband has been out of work for 5 months, and even though he's getting interest in his resume and recruiters are submitting him for good jobs, nothing has come through yet. It's just emotionally exhausting - you get your hopes up, thinking this might be the day, and it doesn't happen. Today I had the terrifying thought - what if the employment market just doesn't come back? He's 46 years old and highly skilled, but what if there is just nothing for him out there? I just had to banish the thought immediately or I would be completely paralyzed with fear.

937 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:26:04am
938 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:26:13am

re: #931 albusteve

I wonder what sort of tax and spend policies BO would describe to save Flint, MI?...how union labor and entitlements can save that sorry town

He runs GM ... he can just reopen the plants, right?

/

939 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:26:47am

re: #928 lawhawk

The rich will pay for this dearly, once you realize that they've defined rich down to anyone who is left paying taxes (pretty much everyone not already on the dole).

Let the class warfare commence.

940 kynna  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:27:06am

re: #591 muddywood

Sanford looks and sounds like a sad man trapped in a loveless marriage.
He had a couple of choices.
1- Get a divorce and commit political suicide
2- stay married to a shrew in a loveless marriage until he's out of public office.
3- Find love outside his marriage and hope he doesn't get caught.

All of them are bad choices. Some worse than others.
He chose #3 and then got caught.
He should've just admitted it and then kept his mouth shut and let the chips fall where they may.
I think he's cracking under the pressure.

1. Divorce isn't political suicide anymore if it's handled with dignity. See Ronald Reagan. Heck, see Rudy Guliani twice! (although questionable on the dignity aspect for that second one)

2. What's wrong with option number 2? He can get out of public office if he can't handle his divorce with dignity.

3. This option is for assholes -- of either gender. Husband or wife, if you can't get your act together in the second biggest commitment of your life (your kids being the first), then you need to sever that tie before moving on. And the person who will cheat with someone else's spouse is a skank whether woman or man.

Mark Sanford may be cracking under pressure but he made the choices that brought that pressure to bear.

BTW -- when did his wife become a shrew? I thought she had been handling this whole debacle with incredible grace. Am I wrong about that?

941 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:27:16am

re: #927 Killgore Trout

Nice pic. They aren't very shy birds. They fly right up to me all the time. Very curious.

We have quite a few that hit our feeders on the deck at home. Often times you feel the need to duck as they buzz by your head going to and fro.

942 No. Just, no.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:28:10am

Upon thinking about it, Gov. Sanford is either completely clueless about women, or really wants his wife to end the marriage. (To agree with all those who have already said this.)

The worst possible thing a guy can do in this situation is make his wife feel like he loves the other woman more. For women, feelings matter.

943 Rancher  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:28:31am

LOL, it seems quite a few female lizards don't think the wife is to blame for a cheating husband. I must agree, and vice-versa too.

944 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:29:14am

re: #932 Mad Al-Jaffee

Looks like even in death Joe Jackson is making money off his son. The general public will pay $25 to attend MJ's funeral.

[Link: www.radaronline.com...]

Disgusting if true

945 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:29:33am

re: #932 Mad Al-Jaffee

Looks like even in death Joe Jackson is making money off his son. The general public will pay $25 to attend MJ's funeral.

[Link: www.radaronline.com...]

P.T. Barnum said...

946 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:29:57am

re: #937 buzzsawmonkey

OT

Here's another CAP and trade: the Center for American Progress (CAP) think tank, well-connected to the Obama Administration, thinks that Israel should trade away East Jerusalem.

Because Obama thinks the only reason for Israel is to prevent another Shoah. Not that Jews have lived there for over 3000 years, and that Jerusalem is the center of Judaism.

947 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:29:57am

Got an "out of office" response to my email. According to the "OOO" memo, the person I interviewed with has been off all week.

Maybe they are all on vacation (because of July 4) and haven't made a decision.

948 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:30:17am

re: #941 CommonCents

I see you also do some fly fishing. Are you any good at it? I've been doing it a few years and I still suck.

949 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:30:25am

re: #937 buzzsawmonkey

OT

Here's another CAP and trade: the Center for American Progress (CAP) think tank, well-connected to the Obama Administration, thinks that Israel should trade away East Jerusalem.

recommends that both Israel and a future state of Palestine appoint a third-party administrator that would run and police the city.

So who's that? A Christian, Jew, or muslim? Not that it would matter, I'm sure the PFLP, Al-Aqsa, Hamas, Islamic-Jihad, ... [alphabet soup] groups would all adhere to the "administrator".

950 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:30:26am
951 No. Just, no.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:31:07am

re: #948 Killgore Trout

I see you also do some fly fishing. Are you any good at it? I've been doing it a few years and I still suck.

There's a fish farm up by Mt. Hood. Bet you would catch something there.
*Grin*

952 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:31:33am

re: #948 Killgore Trout

I see you also do some fly fishing. Are you any good at it? I've been doing it a few years and I still suck.

That was the first time. I didn't catch anything all day, but just wading thru the river and the surroundings were good enough.

953 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:31:43am

re: #913 BlueCanuck

heh, that's my twitter avatar when I was focusing on the Iranian election protests couple of weeks ago. Coloured it green to show support.

Good for you! I am on Twitter, as I wanted to follow Winston06...and I put Tehran as where I live, in support. He is Winston80 on Twitter, and has excellent updates on the situation in Iran. It must be so hard on him.

Lo and behold, daughter sends me a private note there, asking when I moved to Tehran, and how on earth did I know to go on Twitter! I told her why. And then I see that my youngest is also on Twitter!

I am following them very, very quietly! ;)

954 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:31:45am

re: #947 Alouette

Got an "out of office" response to my email. According to the "OOO" memo, the person I interviewed with has been off all week.

Maybe they are all on vacation (because of July 4) and haven't made a decision.

That could delay things, yes.

955 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:31:49am
956 poteen  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:32:01am

re: #938 OldLineTexan

He runs GM ... he can just reopen the plants, right?

/

Lose the sarc tag.

That's a reliable prediction. The unions will require more tax money.

957 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:32:03am

re: #949 CommonCents

The Swiss Guard /Tom Clancy

958 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:32:46am

re: #943 Rancher

LOL, it seems quite a few female lizards don't think the wife is to blame for a cheating husband. I must agree, and vice-versa too.

I think it is sometimes a factor. Some women cut their husbands off completely, especially after they have children. She makes him feel like he can't do anything right, he's getting no affection, and he's vulnerable when another woman shows an interest in him. I am NOT saying that makes it right, but it happens. More often, though, I think a man just gets bored with his wife, who probably is not the slim and sexy young thing he married, and he behaves selfishly.

959 3 wood  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:32:47am

Sports Nerd Corner:

Never fear Cubs fans, trade news just in. The cubs have acquired utility infielder Jeff Baker from the Colorado Rockies for a Class A relief pitcher I never heard of.

Baker is hitting .130 with 3 RBI's...


He will fit right in with this line up, maybe bat leadoff.

960 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:32:54am

re: #952 CommonCents

That was the first time. I didn't catch anything all day, but just wading thru the river and the surroundings were good enough.

You fish for flies? Obama just slaps 'em down!

/;-P

961 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:33:17am

re: #951 EmmmieG

There's a fish farm up by Mt. Hood. Bet you would catch something there.
*Grin*

I've gone up the the hatchery in Sandy during Salmon runs and caught nothing. I can catch lake trout, they're pretty easy. Salmon and Steelhead are really tough to catch with fly gear.

962 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:33:18am

re: #932 Mad Al-Jaffee

I am seriously going to puke.

963 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:33:26am

OT
LIVE

VP Joe Biden is in Iraq on "suprise" visit.

Fox

964 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:33:38am

re: #938 OldLineTexan

He runs GM ... he can just reopen the plants, right?

/

Flint is slowly melting into the ground, just like that TV show

[Link: onesmallprojectwiki.pbworks.com...]

965 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:33:44am

re: #952 CommonCents

That was the first time. I didn't catch anything all day, but just wading thru the river and the surroundings were good enough.

Heh. I know the feeling.

966 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:33:51am

Sanford apparently went fly-fishing in Argentina.

/

967 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:34:04am

re: #948 Killgore Trout

I see you also do some fly fishing. Are you any good at it? I've been doing it a few years and I still suck.

Duhhh, hello, your name's trout...?
;-)

Back to lunch.

968 No. Just, no.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:34:24am

re: #961 Killgore Trout

I've gone up the the hatchery in Sandy during Salmon runs and caught nothing. I can catch lake trout, they're pretty easy. Salmon and Steelhead are really tough to catch with fly gear.

Salmon is really easy to catch at the Fred Meyer meat counter.

969 poteen  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:34:37am

re: #966 OldLineTexan

Sanford apparently went fly-fishing in Argentina.

/

His reel had an open bail?//

970 albusteve  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:34:37am

re: #944 Nevergiveup

Disgusting if true

capitalism!...buy two tickets and half off the third!

971 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:34:52am

re: #959 3 wood

Sports Nerd Corner:

Never fear Cubs fans, trade news just in. The cubs have acquired utility infielder Jeff Baker from the Colorado Rockies for a Class A relief pitcher I never heard of.

Baker is hitting .130 with 3 RBI's...


He will fit right in with this line up, maybe bat leadoff.

And, in related sports news, Da Bears are still undefeated. I predict that they will remain undefeated at least until some time in August...
/ :)

972 Kronocide  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:34:53am

re: #937 buzzsawmonkey

Let me guess... staffed by Blue Helmets? Crazy.

973 Rancher  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:34:55am

re: #932 Mad Al-Jaffee

Looks like even in death Joe Jackson is making money off his son. The general public will pay $25 to attend MJ's funeral.

[Link: www.radaronline.com...]

Joe Jackson was expressly left out of the will, as was ex-wife Debbie Rowe.

974 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:35:03am

re: #947 Alouette

Got an "out of office" response to my email. According to the "OOO" memo, the person I interviewed with has been off all week.

Maybe they are all on vacation (because of July 4) and haven't made a decision.

That's a good sign! And if there is more than one decision maker, it can be hard to get everyone on the same page during vacation season. Good luck!

975 Macker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:35:05am

re: #968 EmmmieG

10,000 updings!

976 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:35:12am
977 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:35:40am

OT
LIVE

VP Joe Biden is on surprise visit to Iraq--he's been there 12 times-- very experienced in Foreign Affairs.

Biden was instrumnental in setting up the No-Fly Zone to protect Iraqi Kurds from Saddam Hussein.

Biden will work on "reconciliation" in Iraq.

FOX

978 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:35:45am

re: #968 EmmmieG

Salmon is really easy to catch at the Fred Meyer meat counter.

It's Meijer, if we're talking about the same Fred M.

979 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:36:01am

re: #968 EmmmieG

Yeah, I've resorted to store bought fish this year too. Trader Joe's has some really good prices sometimes. I loaded up on Ahi steaks a few weeks ago.

980 Macker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:36:05am

re: #971 LGoPs

And, in related sports news, Da Bears are still undefeated. I predict that they will remain undefeated at least until some time in August...
/ :)

And when they lose, they become duhhh, Bears.

981 Rancher  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:36:54am

re: #958 doppelganglander

I think it is sometimes a factor. Some women cut their husbands off completely, especially after they have children. She makes him feel like he can't do anything right, he's getting no affection, and he's vulnerable when another woman shows an interest in him. I am NOT saying that makes it right, but it happens. More often, though, I think a man just gets bored with his wife, who probably is not the slim and sexy young thing he married, and he behaves selfishly.

Definately. So you leave, you don't cheat.

982 Macker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:36:57am

re: #977 alegrias

Also experienced in plagiarism.

983 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:37:05am

re: #971 LGoPs

And, in related sports news, Da Bears are still undefeated. I predict that they will remain undefeated at least until some time in August...
/ :)

Blackhawks snagged to Red Wings, Hossa for 12 @ $72M and Tomas Kopecky (role player). Hossa is signed until he's 42 merely for cap reasons but it'll make signing the bevy of young stars more difficult next year.

984 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:37:34am
985 NukeAtomrod  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:38:00am

I'm starting to feel embarrassed for this guy. Sometimes, the better part of valor is shutting the hell up.

And I'm not talking about Sanford damaging his political party. That's already done. When a Republican gets caught having an affair, he's not getting reelected. The Republicans eat their own. When a Democrat gets caught having an affair, he's a hero standing up against the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.

Sanford's just making himself look foolish for nothing. That is unless he's planning on switching parties...

986 3 wood  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:38:55am

re: #947 Alouette

Got an "out of office" response to my email. According to the "OOO" memo, the person I interviewed with has been off all week.

Maybe they are all on vacation (because of July 4) and haven't made a decision.

I used to be in upper management and did a lot of hiring. It can sometimes take 4 to 6 weeks to complete the hire due to red tape and paperwork, vacations in HR, that type of thing.

987 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:39:05am

re: #977 alegrias

OT
LIVE

VP Joe Biden is on surprise visit to Iraq--he's been there 12 times-- very experienced in Foreign Affairs.

Biden was instrumnental in setting up the No-Fly Zone to protect Iraqi Kurds from Saddam Hussein.

Biden will work on "reconciliation" in Iraq.

FOX

Huh? This is Joe "let's cut the country up into 3 pieces and segregate religously" Biden. Isn't it?

988 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:39:59am

re: #984 buzzsawmonkey

And it's Mire, if you're referring to the Everglades branch.

/

Damn, every Tom, Dick, and Fred has a fish market.

989 Macker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:40:40am

re: #978 CommonCents

It's Meijer, if we're talking about the same Fred M.

Actually, there are Fred Meyer stores in the Northwestern USA. So it's a different business entity altogether.

Meijer (Shifty Takers)
Fred Meyer

990 VegasRick  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:41:13am

re: #963 alegrias

OT
LIVE

VP Joe Biden is in Iraq on "suprise" visit.

Fox

VP Joe Biden is in Iraq on "supriseaccidental" visit.
*he got on the wrong flight to Scranton.

991 Russkilitlover  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:41:29am

re: #968 EmmmieG

Salmon is really easy to catch at the Fred Meyer meat counter.

Ok. I have to brag just a teeny bit...Last night I cooked a Thai dinner. The main course was a deep fried whole Red Snapper with a red curry sauce. It totally WOW'd my company and I'm feeling a bit smug now. (Of course, this means I probably completely ruin tonight's dinner, but I can live off the glow from last night's success for a while :D)

992 poteen  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:41:38am

re: #985 NukeAtomrod

He's a dick.He'd fit right in.
Of course...
/ They all fit.

993 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:41:48am

re: #959 3 wood

Sports Nerd Corner:

Never fear Cubs fans, trade news just in. The cubs have acquired utility infielder Jeff Baker from the Colorado Rockies for a Class A relief pitcher I never heard of.

Baker is hitting .130 with 3 RBI's...

He will fit right in with this line up, maybe bat leadoff.

Knock it off, Sox Fan.

I'm out. Have to get to work.

994 No. Just, no.  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:41:56am

re: #989 Macker

Actually, there are Fred Meyer stores in the Northwestern USA. So it's a different business entity altogether.

Meijer (Shifty Takers)
Fred Meyer

Oh...(was confused).

995 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:42:05am

re: #990 VegasRick

VP Joe Biden is in Iraq on "supriseaccidental" visit.
*he got on the wrong flight train to Scranton.

Joe's a simple guy.

996 Macker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:42:28am

re: #985 NukeAtomrod

And I'm not talking about Sanford damaging his political party. That's already done. When a Republican gets caught having an affair, he's not getting reelected. The Republicans eat their own. When a Democrat gets caught having an affair, he's a hero standing up against the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.

Or bending over, in the case of Barney Frank.

997 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:42:48am
998 NukeAtomrod  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:43:15am

re: #977 alegrias

OT
LIVE

VP Joe Biden is on surprise visit to Iraq--he's been there 12 times-- very experienced in Foreign Affairs.

Biden was instrumnental in setting up the No-Fly Zone to protect Iraqi Kurds from Saddam Hussein.

Biden will work on "reconciliation" in Iraq.

FOX

He takes an Amtrak train there every evening.

999 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:43:17am

What a crazy idea. It's no wonder the Iranian mullahs came up with this claptrap. You know they weren't going to own up and admit that they've murdered Neda, they've gone out and invented an Interpol report claiming that the whole situation was staged.

The International Police force, or Interpol, has denied a claim by Iran's police chief that it is seeking a doctor who witnessed the shooting death of 26-year-old "Neda."

Head of police Brig. Gen. Esmail Ahmadi-Moqaddam said, "Arash Hejazi is wanted by Interpol and Iran's Intelligence Ministry" in the murder of Neda, who's shooting fueled what were daily opposition rallies in the capital city of Tehran, according to a Wednesday report by Iran's Press TV, a state-run, English language network.

Speaking by phone to CBSNews.com Thursday morning from her office in Lyon, France, a spokesperson for Interpol flatly denied any involvement whatsoever in an investigation into Sultan's death.

"We've not received any request for information or for assistance on the death of that lady," spokesperson Rachel Billington said.

"We've received nothing from Iran," she emphasized.

The Iranian mullahs still claim that her death had nothing to do with the protests.

1000 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:43:34am

re: #997 buzzsawmonkey

As a former blue helmet wearer...*DING*

1001 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:43:36am
1002 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:44:08am

re: #1001 taxfreekiller

close

1003 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:44:22am

re: #1001 taxfreekiller

what list?

1004 Rancher  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:44:29am

re: #995 CommonCents

Joe's a simple guy.

Special.

1005 Macker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:44:38am

re: #1000 BlueCanuck

As a former blue helmet wearer...*DING*

Did you hate wearing that thing?

1006 sagehen  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:44:42am

re: #850 jcm

Right to obtain / access...
That's the right, you shouldn't be prevented from obtaining health care.

Right to have provided..
No such thing.

Very fundamental; a right can place no demands on anyone else.


That's what I keep telling the right-to-life people, but they don't find it persuasive. They especially hate when I accuse them of trying to eminent domain my internal organs.

1007 wrenchwench  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:45:14am

re: #1001 taxfreekiller

1,000

Uh oh, you're slowing down.

Have you started training for the HHH yet?

1008 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:45:19am
1009 Macker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:45:51am

re: #1007 wrenchwench

Hubert Horatio Humphrey?

1010 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:46:03am

re: #1001 taxfreekiller

1,000

one down ding for missing...

Now I'll go back and fix it...

1011 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:46:14am

re: #1001 taxfreekiller

1,000

You mean, how many years it's going to take to recover from Obama's stimulus?

1012 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:46:38am
1013 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:46:59am
1014 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:47:40am

re: #1006 sagehen

That's what I keep telling the right-to-life people, but they don't find it persuasive. They especially hate when I accuse them of trying to eminent domain my internal organs.

I would agree, but there's a third party involved.

Therein lies the argument.

1015 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:48:40am

re: #957 lawhawk

The Swiss Guard /Tom Clancy

Is that a book in itself or is it only from a book?

1016 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:48:42am

re: #1005 Macker
That and the ROE, the boredom, the heat...

re: #1013 buzzsawmonkey

Funny you bring that up. That was my tour back in the 80's. A lot quieter then though.

1017 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:48:51am

re: #924 Rancher

North Carolina, no. A tornado however might have. Any emergency, natural, man made such as haz mat, terrorists attack, prison uprising, whatever, that would require the National Guard or an emergency declaration would need the Governors immediate attention and presence.

I would bet that more than one person knew where he was. Someone spilled the beans about him "missing" as well as knowing what plane he would be on in Atlanta. His wife? His Lt Gov?

1018 alegrias  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:49:27am

"1000 times worse than Madoff"--that's Obama's prescription for our country, according to Mark Levin, talking on Hannity's show last night.

1019 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:49:27am

re: #1015 CommonCents

Is that a book in itself or is it only from a book?

It's from Sum of All Fears IIRC.

1020 wrenchwench  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:49:44am

re: #1012 taxfreekiller

yes, up to 25 miles every other day
sucks , got old tendons and joints

When they stop getting older, then you are in real trouble.

1021 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:49:46am

re: #1017 Eowyn2

Some staff member that was fed up with his sh*t?

/laying odds on that one.

1022 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:49:50am

re: #997 buzzsawmonkey

Here's an oldie on that subject:

Blue Helmets
–with apologies to Bernie Wayne & Lee Morris

They wore blue helmets
Bluer than Lebanon’s clear skies
Softer than satin were the lies
From the UN

They wore blue helmets
Blooey went bombs planted at night
Hezbollah knew they wouldn’t fight
And started again.

They were to patrol tightly
And tell the terrorists, “No!”
But they took their duties lightly
And when they left, gone was the show of

Blue helmets
Can you recall, in memory
Any time they’ve done anything but flee
Through the years?
That’s why I subject blue helmets
To my jeers

The New York Giants wear blue helmets

1023 Macker  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:50:45am

re: #1018 alegrias

"1000 times worse than Madoff"--that's Obama's prescription for our country, according to Mark Levin, talking on Hannity's show last night.

Another Giant Government Ponzi Scheme. Great.

/

1024 OldLineTexan  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:50:47am

re: #969 poteen

His reel had an open bail?//

I'd bet he was using bait, the rat.

1025 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:50:55am
1026 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:51:40am

re: #978 CommonCents

It's Meijer, if we're talking about the same Fred M.

Two different ones. Fred Meyer (Oregon) and the inventor of the modern hypermarket, Fred Meijer (Michigan).

1027 Russkilitlover  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:51:56am

re: #1021 BlueCanuck

Some staff member that was fed up with his sh*t?

/laying odds on that one.

Cherchez la Secretary...They. Know. All.

1028 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:51:59am

re: #936 doppelganglander

I guess that's better than never hearing at all. Some jobs do have a very long hiring process.

My husband has been out of work for 5 months, and even though he's getting interest in his resume and recruiters are submitting him for good jobs, nothing has come through yet. It's just emotionally exhausting - you get your hopes up, thinking this might be the day, and it doesn't happen. Today I had the terrifying thought - what if the employment market just doesn't come back? He's 46 years old and highly skilled, but what if there is just nothing for him out there? I just had to banish the thought immediately or I would be completely paralyzed with fear.

He may have to take a job in a different field at a cut in pay. Not until his unemployment expires and he finishes the whole honey-do list. Are the gutters cleaned yet? Shelves put up in the garage? Basement finished?

1029 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:52:10am

re: #1019 jcm

It's from Sum of All Fears IIRC.

I still need to read that one since the movie was massively different, so I heard. Right after Atlas Shrugged. At my pace I'll add this to my 2011 Xmas list.

1030 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:52:29am

re: #1025 buzzsawmonkey

So do the UN Midgets.

I'm happy to say I know absolutely nothing about team sports.

UN Midgets? What sport do they play? Dwarf tossing?

1031 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:53:27am

re: #1025 buzzsawmonkey

So do the UN Midgets.

I'm happy to say I know absolutely nothing about team sports.

Do you know what the N stands for on University of Nebraska football helmets?

1032 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:53:30am
1033 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:55:34am

re: #1029 CommonCents

Probably my favorite Clancy book. I wonder when he's going to write another one. It's been years since his last novel.

1034 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:56:19am

re: #385 avanti

I replied last night about the Post story and agreed that the most of the questioners in that town hall were hand picked, but not the questions according to the story. Still, not his best moment IMHO.

You could make a fart smell like angels breath. It was a VERY GOOD moment. Even some of the most liberal press is questioning this kind of control by the administration.

And on another not, I think JCM first posted this today, but the job recovery is "still six months out" to quote you. And every day, it appears to be moving "six months out."

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

Avanti, you're going to have to start recycling your own spin soon, because Obama is going to help you run out of excuses.

1035 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:56:23am

re: #1029 CommonCents

Yeah, the movie was really different. The book's villians were Islamic terrorists. In the movie they were neo Nazis.

1036 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:56:35am

re: #1032 buzzsawmonkey

They play footsie with terrorists, usually.

And other unmentionable activities I have heard. Not the Canadians though. We do have standards, after all the whole peacekeeping was one of our Prime ministers ideas after all.

/going to have to find his grave and ...

1037 kynna  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:56:37am

re: #1017 Eowyn2

I would bet that more than one person knew where he was. Someone spilled the beans about him "missing" as well as knowing what plane he would be on in Atlanta. His wife? His Lt Gov?

I got the idea the Lt. Gov. was the one that started asking questions.

1038 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:56:43am

re: #913 BlueCanuck

I have searched the internut for a few weeks, looking for a green wrist band with 'Neda' or 'Save Iran' on it...no luck yet. There really should be some available. If anyone finds them, please, please post it.

1039 Desert Dog  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:57:01am

re: #1035 Mad Al-Jaffee

Yeah, the movie was really different. The book's villians were Islamic terrorists. In the movie they were neo Nazis.

Denver got it, not Baltimore in the book too

1040 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:57:40am

re: #1033 Mad Al-Jaffee

Probably my favorite Clancy book. I wonder when he's going to write another one. It's been years since his last novel.

I don't think he write his own novels anymore. He pays underlings to write them, like James Patterson does.

1041 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:57:55am

re: #996 Macker

Or bending over, in the case of Barney Frank.

or they write a book and their wife writes a book and the economy is saved.

1042 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:58:16am

re: #1035 Mad Al-Jaffee

Yeah, the movie was really different. The book's villians were Islamic terrorists. In the movie they were neo Nazis.

As well they changed Jack Ryans age totally, placed the nuke in a different city, and to top it all off they used a sub par actor in the role.

/hated the movie, loved the book. Also there was so much more they changed to make the movie worse as well.

1043 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:58:52am

re: #1040 Alouette

I don't think he write his own novels anymore. He pays underlings to write them, like James Patterson does.

Danielle Steele should hire Mark Sanford to start writing her books...
/

1044 jcm  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:58:55am

Here's a twist...

French: Air France plane hit the sea belly first

An intact Air France Flight 447 slammed belly first into the Atlantic Ocean at a very high speed, a top French investigator said Thursday, adding that problems with the plane's speed sensors were not the direct cause of the crash.

A mid-air disintegration precipitated by vertical stabilizer separation (as the early evidence indicated) is much more troublesome for Airbus.

1046 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:58:59am

re: #1039 Desert Dog

Denver got it, not Baltimore in the book too

Didn't they change that for the movie because Cal Ripken, Jr retired?

1047 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:59:41am

re: #985 NukeAtomrod

I'm starting to feel embarrassed for this guy. Sometimes, the better part of valor is shutting the hell up.

And I'm not talking about Sanford damaging his political party. That's already done. When a Republican gets caught having an affair, he's not getting reelected. The Republicans eat their own. When a Democrat gets caught having an affair, he's a hero standing up against the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy.

Sanford's just making himself look foolish for nothing. That is unless he's planning on switching parties...

Maybe he is angling for his own reality show?

1048 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:00:01am

re: #1044 jcm

Here's a twist...

French: Air France plane hit the sea belly first


A mid-air disintegration precipitated by vertical stabilizer separation (as the early evidence indicated) is much more troublesome for Airbus.

Sounds like some $$$ CYA if you ask me. Wouldn't want Airbus to loseout on contracts.

1049 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:00:02am

Congress's Travel Tab Swells

The spending on overseas travel is up almost tenfold since 1995, and has nearly tripled since 2001, according to the Journal analysis of 60,000 travel records. Hundreds of lawmakers traveled overseas in 2008 at a cost of about $13 million. That's a 50% jump since Democrats took control of Congress two years ago.

The cost of so-called congressional delegations, known among lawmakers as "codels," has risen nearly 70% since 2005, when an influence-peddling scandal led to a ban on travel funded by lobbyists, according to the data.

1050 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:00:18am

re: #1031 LGoPs

Do you know what the N stands for on University of Nebraska football helmets?

Non-participant?

1051 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:00:33am

re: #1028 Eowyn2

He may have to take a job in a different field at a cut in pay. Not until his unemployment expires and he finishes the whole honey-do list. Are the gutters cleaned yet? Shelves put up in the garage? Basement finished?

I try to keep him busy with that sort of thing, but he has other ideas. He's working on a couple of book proposals that he says will be ready to go out to agents soon. He goes to a lot of networking meetings, manages his LinkedIn page, gets together for coffee with people he's networked with, that sort of thing, in addition to spending a good 20-30 hours a week on submitting his resume to whatever openings he can find and following up with phone calls and emails. And he does help with the laundry, cleaning, and cooking while I work. Being unemployed is incredibly time-consuming.

1052 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:00:36am

re: #1038 NY Nana

What a wonderful side business opportunity. Have someone manufacture them like the "live strong" ones, and sell them on a website.

1053 LGoPs  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:00:58am

re: #1031 LGoPs

Do you know what the N stands for on University of Nebraska football helmets?

Ok. I'll answer my own stupid question...sheesh.

Knowledge.

/

1054 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:01:31am

re: #1042 BlueCanuck

In the book the bomb was in a truck, in the movie a cigarette machine!

1055 Kragar  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:01:49am

re: #1045 jill e

You're not doing very well if you're a liberal Democrat and Helen Thomas thinks you're worse than Richard Nixon.

Whats is its doing in its press conferences, Precious? Tricksy nasty hobbitses.

1056 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:02:05am
1057 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:02:07am
1058 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:02:17am

Ah, just missed the original as the day stood still. Dam

1059 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:02:24am

re: #1052 rightside

What a wonderful side business opportunity. Have someone manufacture them like the "live strong" ones, and sell them on a website.

I saw someone post on the Breast Cancer 3 Day message board about having these made up in pink and giving them away with a minimum donation of $1. I believe they cost about 35 cents each in batches of 100. It would be cheaper in larger quantities, I assume. If anyone's interested, I'll see if I can find out where she had them done.

1060 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:02:28am

re: #1035 Mad Al-Jaffee

Yeah, the movie was really different. The book's villians were Islamic terrorists. In the movie they were neo Nazis.

after watching The Godfather, I read the book. Will never do that again. Will always read the book 1st.

1061 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:02:49am

re: #997 buzzsawmonkey

Here's an oldie on that subject:

Blue Helmets
–with apologies to Bernie Wayne & Lee Morris


Okay, it's now official. This is the buzzsaw anthology thread.

1062 CommonCents  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:02:54am

re: #1049 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Congress's Travel Tab Swells

Durbin and Murtha had to lay those road-side bombs when Al-Sadr ran back to Iran and Moussawi got pancaked.

1063 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:02:59am

re: #1057 taxfreekiller

It's ALL Bush's fault!

1064 lawhawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:03:13am

re: #1040 Alouette

I stopped buying his books after going to one of his book signings in the City and was brusque to everyone who ponied up to buy his latest (at the time I think it was Bear and the Dragon).

Great reads, but his reaction really turned me off.

1065 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:04:03am
1066 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:04:11am

re: #1058 Nevergiveup

Ah, just missed the original as the day stood still. Dam

Klaatu barada nikto!

1067 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:04:13am

re: #1064 lawhawk

My father has just about all of his novels signed, and they are first editions.

1068 FrogMarch  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:04:15am

re: #1055 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Whats is its doing in its press conferences, Precious? Tricksy nasty hobbitses.

“Nixon didn’t try to do that,” Thomas said. “They couldn’t control (the media). They didn’t try.

“What the hell do they think we are, puppets?” Thomas said. “They’re supposed to stay out of our business. They are our public servants. We pay them.”

And Helen is a screaming lefty. Go Helen.

1069 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:04:22am

Vice President Biden landed Thursday in Baghdad on a surprise visit to meet with Iraqi officials and U.S. military commanders, as well as speak to U.S. troops on the ground.

The trip comes two days after the White House announced the vice president would be assigned to oversee political reconciliation efforts among Iraqi factions.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

What a joke!

1070 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:05:19am
1071 BlueCanuck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:05:20am

re: #1054 Mad Al-Jaffee

As well in the book, the nuke didn't go full out. Was more a dirty bomb.

1072 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:05:22am

re: #1069 Nevergiveup

Vice President Biden landed Thursday in Baghdad on a surprise visit to meet with Iraqi officials and U.S. military commanders, as well as speak to U.S. troops on the ground.

The trip comes two days after the White House announced the vice president would be assigned to oversee political reconciliation efforts among Iraqi factions.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

What a joke!

"What can I do to make things worse?" Uncle Joe

1073 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:05:34am

re: #1022 Alouette

The New York Giants wear blue helmets

Could be worse. The Vikings wear purple helmets.

1074 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:05:45am

re: #1040 Alouette

What was the last fiction that he wrote?

1075 rightside  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:06:08am

re: #1057 taxfreekiller

good, that'll keep 'em busy

re: #1059 doppelganglander

cool!

Ok, student is here, bbl.

1076 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:06:40am

re: #1067 Mad Al-Jaffee

My father has just about all of his novels signed, and they are first editions.

A signed first of The Hunt For Red October can bring a good amount of money at auction.

1077 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:07:06am
1078 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:07:26am

re: #958 doppelganglander

I think it is sometimes a factor. Some women cut their husbands off completely, especially after they have children. She makes him feel like he can't do anything right, he's getting no affection, and he's vulnerable when another woman shows an interest in him. I am NOT saying that makes it right, but it happens. More often, though, I think a man just gets bored with his wife, who probably is not the slim and sexy young thing he married, and he behaves selfishly.

Why would any woman give up great sex?

1079 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:07:36am

re: #1076 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A signed first of The Hunt For Red October can bring a good amount of money at auction.

But how do you drag that big sub back home?

1080 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:07:48am

re: #1073 CyanSnowHawk

Could be worse. The Vikings wear purple helmets.

The Lions might as well be wearing cardboard Burger King crowns from the kid's meal.

1081 Nevergiveup  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:08:17am

re: #1078 debutaunt

Why would any woman give up great sex?

For greatER aex?

1082 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:08:45am

re: #1078 debutaunt

Why would any woman give up great sex?

The opportunity for greater sex, perhaps?

1083 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:09:07am

re: #1080 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

The Lions might as well be wearing cardboard Burger King crowns from the kid's meal.

At least they can beat up on the Bears...

1084 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:09:20am
1085 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:09:27am

re: #1078 debutaunt

Why would any woman give up great sex?

The keyword there is great.

1086 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:10:57am
1087 CyanSnowHawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:11:26am

re: #1045 jill e

You're not doing very well if you're a liberal Democrat and Helen Thomas thinks you're worse than Richard Nixon.

The media put themselves in the yoke and now complain when the driver starts calling the direction they are to go.

1088 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:11:51am

re: #1051 doppelganglander

I try to keep him busy with that sort of thing, but he has other ideas. He's working on a couple of book proposals that he says will be ready to go out to agents soon. He goes to a lot of networking meetings, manages his LinkedIn page, gets together for coffee with people he's networked with, that sort of thing, in addition to spending a good 20-30 hours a week on submitting his resume to whatever openings he can find and following up with phone calls and emails. And he does help with the laundry, cleaning, and cooking while I work. Being unemployed is incredibly time-consuming.

Its good that he is keeping busy. Hope his books do well. Fact or Fiction.

1089 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:11:52am

re: #1076 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A signed first of The Hunt For Red October can bring a good amount of money at auction.

Yup. He also had some inscribed copies, but I think he sold most of them. I have some signed Vonnegut first editions I could probably sell, but I'm holding on to them.

1090 Look At My New Grandbaby!  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:12:14am

re: #1074 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

What was the last fiction that he wrote?

Clancy or Patterson?

1091 3 wood  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:12:21am

re: #1057 taxfreekiller

avanti and icetheweasel will be busy off line most of today
working on my list from #75 above

Well, with the bad economic news I figured they would be scarce today.

1092 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:12:54am

&#9834 &#9836 Good afternoon, {lizards} &#9836 &#9834

New avatar ... :D

1093 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:13:29am

re: #1077 taxfreekiller
I think it would be funny to start a fake organization that wants to ban bicycles. Because manufacture of bikes uses energy and some of the parts are made from petroleum products.

1094 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:14:19am

re: #1088 Eowyn2

Its good that he is keeping busy. Hope his books do well. Fact or Fiction.

The one he's making the most progress on is a self-help book based on Hindu principles. It seems there is virtually no direct competition in the market for this type of thing, and goodness knows people are eager for life advice in these times.

1095 badger1970  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:14:55am

"Sum of All Fears" was a good book but strange ending with a pope, an imam and a rabbi all walk into a bar...

Clancy, once famous, got a big head and turn J.K. Rowling on his former readers.

Hypothetically, would Sanford get as much grief as he does if he weren't a creationist or a republican?

1096 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:15:05am
1097 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:16:03am

re: #1075 rightside

good, that'll keep 'em busy

re: #1059 doppelganglander

cool!

Ok, student is here, bbl.

I emailed the individual to see if she can tell me how to place an order. NY Nana, you may be starting something.

1098 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:16:07am

re: #1065 buzzsawmonkey

its still a good idea for a thread
Maybe an Independence Day thread?

1099 debutaunt  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:16:54am

re: #1093 Mad Al-Jaffee

I think it would be funny to start a fake organization that wants to ban bicycles. Because manufacture of bikes uses energy and some of the parts are made from petroleum products.

That sounds like a Penn and Teller show.

1100 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:17:46am

re: #1099 debutaunt

That sounds like a Penn and Teller show.

Yeah, or something Alan Abel would do.

[Link: www.alanabel.com...]

1101 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:18:24am

re: #1090 Alouette

Clancy or Patterson?

Tom Clancy

1102 The Hoopster  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:19:14am

re: #1092 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good afternoon, {lizards} ♬ ♪

New avatar ... :D


{Miss Trixie}
Always nice to see you...How goes it today?

1103 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:21:04am

re: #1052 rightside

I would hope that if they were made, the money would go towards assisting the untold numbers of Iranians who have been shot, etc.

It really should be set up as a charity, IMHO. I wear this orange band in support of the Israelis who were expelled from their homes.

1104 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:22:25am

re: #943 Rancher

LOL, it seems quite a few female lizards don't think the wife is to blame for a cheating husband. I must agree, and vice-versa too.

I agree with you too.
I knew a man who was sweet, sensative, a good provider (and Great in bed) but his wife screwed him over for his best friend. He was devastated as he lost wife and best friend at once. Nobody he could even talk to.
I also knew a woman who, when she was married, had a lover who lived in the crawl space of their trailer and would come out when the husband was at work.

Yes, a woman can be just as big an asshole as a man.

1105 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:24:39am

re: #1103 NY Nana

I would hope that if they were made, the money would go towards assisting the untold numbers of Iranians who have been shot, etc.

It really should be set up as a charity, IMHO. I wear this orange band in support of the Israelis who were expelled from their homes.

I think that's an excellent idea. It's just wrong to use a cause to make money for yourself. For you and anyone who's interested, here's the company that makes the breast cancer wristbands. They can do even 1 wristband if you want, or thousands.

[Link: www.reminderband.com...]

1106 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:25:19am

re: #1102 HoosierHoops

{Miss Trixie}
Always nice to see you...How goes it today?

{Hoosier} Hey there! I'm just fine. I'm off from work for a couple of days to de-stress and re-charge my batteries. The weather's not cooperating and it's rainy but I'm enjoying some peace and quiet anyway.

How's every little thing with you?

1107 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:25:50am

re: #1104 Eowyn2

I agree with you too.
I knew a man who was sweet, sensative, a good provider (and Great in bed) but his wife screwed him over for his best friend. He was devastated as he lost wife and best friend at once. Nobody he could even talk to.
I also knew a woman who, when she was married, had a lover who lived in the crawl space of their trailer and would come out when the husband was at work.

Yes, a woman can be just as big an asshole as a man.

The crawlspace? What kind of hypnotic power can a woman possess that would make a man live in a crawlspace for her?

1108 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:26:36am

re: #1097 doppelganglander

I emailed the individual to see if she can tell me how to place an order. NY Nana, you may be starting something.

I hope so! The Iranian people deserve to be freed. This has been heartbreaking. They have a culture that goes back eons, and are not the enemy; it is the Mullahs who deserve to be put on trial. Please let me know if there is a wristband available.

I have my nic blue.

1109 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:31:06am

re: #1094 doppelganglander

The one he's making the most progress on is a self-help book based on Hindu principles. It seems there is virtually no direct competition in the market for this type of thing, and goodness knows people are eager for life advice in these times.

It sounds interesting as long as it isn't on Kali worshippers' principles.

1110 NY Nana  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:31:10am

re: #1105 doppelganglander

I totally agree. I saved the site, BTW. Thanks!

I am not physically able to do this, sadly, but if anyone does, please let us know. A lot of Lizards would be interested, I think.

1111 Miss Trixie  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:31:22am

Going upthread. :)

1112 tradewind  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:32:37am

I'm confused... why does it matter to this story whether Sanford is a creationist philandering hypocrite or an atheist philandering hypocrite?

1113 Eowyn2  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:32:58am

re: #1107 doppelganglander

The crawlspace? What kind of hypnotic power can a woman possess that would make a man live in a crawlspace for her?

I strongly suspect there may have been drugs involved.
She was not exceedingly attractive.

1114 redstateredneck  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:38:14am

re: #1092 Miss Trixie

♪ ♬ Good afternoon, {lizards} ♬ ♪

New avatar ... :D

Too cute! {Little Miss}

1115 doppelganglander  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:39:27am

re: #1113 Eowyn2

I strongly suspect there may have been drugs involved.
She was not exceedingly attractive.

No doubt. It's amazing what drugs will make people do.

As for the book, no, Kali is not involved at all. :) In fact, based on what I've read, it doesn't conflict with my Christian principles at all - it just uses Sanskrit words for the things your grandmother probably told you. I appreciate your interest and I'll let you and the rest of the lizard kingdom know how things work out.

1116 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:18:49am

re: #8 rightside

If she doesn't leave him now, I will have lost all respect for her.

Her call, not ours.

1117 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:34:36am

re: #1078 debutaunt

Why would any woman give up great sex?

Well...

/nah...

gotta move upthread.

1118 [deleted]  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 12:48:17pm
1119 kawfytawk  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 1:57:33pm

re: #8 rightside

If she doesn't leave him now, I will have lost all respect for her.

I believe she kicked him out a couple of weeks ago...I say good for her

1120 avspatti  Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:41:20pm

re: #950 taxfreekiller

there is a Bed and Breakfast in Chama New Mexico we stay in when we
work a week or two helping on the Chama Railroad.

200 or more humming birds all day long, bzzz

Can you tell us its name? Chama is pretty small, though.


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