As North Korea continues preparations for a long-range ballistic missile test, possibly this weekend, today they test-fired four short-range missiles that apparently landed in the China Sea.
Reports say these were ground-to-ship missiles; this bit of saber-rattling is probably intended as a threat to South Korea.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:13:27am |
re: #1 buzzsawmonkey
Flexing their
musclesmissiles.
Well the missiles they feed, the people not so much.
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:14:01am |
Cancelling missile defense is exactly the wrong response, at the wrong time.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:14:37am |
How many NK peasants starve to pay for each of those missiles?
And nobody's even trying to attack them.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:15:00am |
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rain of lead Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:15:32am |
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MTF Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:15:36am |
Just caught a fellow from MIT on Fox, saying that this was nothing at all; the missiles were tactical, like big artillery shells, and have nothing at all to do with their ballistic tests upcoming (target Hawaii).
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:15:53am |
These new Air France crash discoveries are eerily similar to the Egyptair crash. And the JFK, Jr. crash.
Just sayin'
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:16:00am |
Obama, and Democrats in general, reliably exercise phenomenally bad judgement
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pat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:16:13am |
We may have to confront the possibility that Kim launches these things because it is fun. Clearly Obama and friends do not care.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:16:23am |
Well, obviously, it's all Bush's fault, because not "engaging" with the open-fisted Kim Il-Jong left him so ronery that he must attract attention any way he can.
It can't just be a country with a crazy dictator building up it's military.
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Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:16:24am |
Let them eat missiles.
N Korea Food Situation 'Critical':WFP
(RTTNews) - The United Nations food agency has warned that millions of hungry North Korean women and children are facing a critical shortage of food, as donations to the isolated state have dried up amid the country's nuclear stand-off, say media reports.
In the backdrop of tightening U.N. Security Council sanctions on it, and the North Korean government itself stepping up restrictions on aid groups, the World Food Program (WFP) says it has received just 15 per cent of the $504m it needs. Without that aid, it says, 6.2 million North Koreans are at risk.
Torben Due, WFP's country representative in North Korea, said contributions for that country dried up after Pyongyang carried out a nuclear test in May. "We have not really received any contributions after the nuclear test was carried out," he said.
As a result, the WFP has drastically curtailed food distribution to 4,500 tonnes per month, down from a planned 50,000 tonnes.
"It is a very serious problem for the people in (North Korea) as they do not have enough to eat," Due told reporters Wednesday in Beijing.
He said donors were responding to the political situation in North Korea but being a humanitarian organization, WFP would not engage in the political brinkmanship, but would look at the needs of the people.
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_RememberTonyC Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:16:35am |
I think 'Lil Kim is pissed that he was not invited to the weenie roast along with the iranians. Once again, the failure of "Weenie Diplomacy" is exposed.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:16:46am |
re: #9 MTF
Just caught a fellow from MIT on Fox, saying that this was nothing at all; the missiles were tactical, like big artillery shells, and have nothing at all to do with their ballistic tests upcoming (target Hawaii).
And when exactly is this fellow moving his family to Seoul S Korea?
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Russkilitlover Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:17:22am |
re: #3 LGoPs
Cancelling missile defense is exactly the wrong response, at the wrong time.
That means, unfortunately, that it's the exact response Obama will take.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:17:45am |
Here's an interesting article on the North Korean missile program and its ties to the Iranian program.
The Taepodong and the Shabab are basically the same missile.
And the article talks about ties to Khan's program as well.
I think the nuclear bomb that worked was based on Khan's design, and that they do have a design that will fit in a missile.
And Kim might be crazy enough to use a nuke. But I don't think there is one in the next missile, as he probably isn't crazy enough to put one in a missile that probably won't work.
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rain of lead Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:19:46am |
I hate to say it, but I think this "might" be the only thin that will get the Dems notice
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:19:54am |
re: #10 Alouette
JFK Jr.'s death always makes me think of this story from The Onion:
www.theonion.com/content/node/32270
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lawhawk Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:20:03am |
It's also directed at Japan, which has the Self Defense Forces operating in international waters, and which has AEGIS capabilities.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:20:18am |
re: #10 Alouette
These new Air France crash discoveries are eerily similar to the Egyptair crash. And the JFK, Jr. crash.
Just sayin'
The JFK crash was disorientation. He was flying over water at dusk; it is very hard to detect the horizon. Experienced pilots are trained (with difficulty) to trust the instruments over their senses. JFK jr wasn't experienced enough.
As for the Air France crash, if the pitot tubes iced over, the instruments would be wrong, and that could cause it; a dive fits that scenario better than a bomb.
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:21:04am |
The main argument from Democrats on the issue of missile defense is that it's too expensive. With Obama's recent moves on the budget the Democrats have demonstrated loud and clear that budgetary restraint is not an issue.
What is their excuse now?
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astronmr20 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:22:42am |
I thought these were to be launched on the 4th?
Dare I say the No-dongs' launch was... premature?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:24:10am |
re: #14 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Let them eat missiles.
N Korea Food Situation 'Critical':WFP
...He said donors were responding to the political situation in North Korea but being a humanitarian organization, WFP would not engage in the political brinkmanship, but would look at the needs of the people.
Well, even when food and needs are coming into that country, it goes to the military and such.
Was the WFP project looking out for that?
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Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:25:59am |
re: #27 Walter L. Newton
Well, even when food and needs are coming into that country, it goes to the military and such.
Was the WFP project looking out for that?
My guess is no. The humanitarian needs of the North Koreans would be best served by removing their current government.
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tradewind Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:36:05am |
re: #22 Kosh's Shadow
It doesn't help your orientation when you're in the middle of a cat fight between your coked-out wife and her coke-d out sister, either.
He had no business making that trip.
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Eowyn2 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:36:09am |
re: #11 LGoPs
Obama, and Democrats in general, reliably exercise phenomenally bad judgement
dog bites man
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JarHeadLifer Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:36:53am |
re: #10 Alouette
These new Air France crash discoveries are eerily similar to the Egyptair crash. And the JFK, Jr. crash.
Just sayin'
While the media reports so far have been a little ambiguous, it appears that it's this AF crash is much different than the Egyptair crash. Egyptair was a relatively "controlled" and fully powered dive into the ocean. This latest information about the Air France crash indicates that the plane crashed in a stall, or aggravated stall (flat spin).
The plane's debris indicates that the plane was crushed from top to bottom, not from front to back. Essentially, the plane was falling vertically with the wings still relatively level - that's a stall.
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MarineGrunt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:37:02am |
Kim baby, your Taepo-dong missiles are limp.
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tradewind Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:37:05am |
re: #25 taxfreekiller
Waiting to see what TOTUS will do when/if one of the Norks' missiles misfires right into the middle of Seoul.....
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MTF Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:38:01am |
re: #16 Nevergiveup
Oh, don't misunderstand, he wasn't saying anything negative at all about the dangers posed to us and everyone else by the regime. It was Fox I was watching, after all! No, he was saying merely that this particular event was no big deal at all. He didn't say this, but I bet that hostile, armed to the teeth, fascist totalitarian regimes do these sorts of tests all the time.
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tradewind Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:38:31am |
re: #32 JarHeadLifer
Egyptair was an allahuman error. First officer shouting allahu-ackbar as he nosed it into the ocean......
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Rancher Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:45:02am |
Will this experience give Obama second thoughts about his hostility toward missile defense? It should, but Obama’s opposition is deeply ingrained. During the presidential campaign, he pledged to slash missile-defense spending. In recent months, he has made good on his promise. His proposed budget for 2010 includes more than $1 billion in cuts. One of the main casualties is a system of interceptors in Alaska and California whose purpose is to protect the West Coast from North Korea. Obama would halt their deployment at 28 anti-ballistic missiles (ABMs), short of the 44 the Pentagon had hoped to put in place by 2011. Another victim is Airborne Laser (ABL), which seeks to mount lasers on 747s. The goal is to target the fuel casings of enemy rockets just after they’ve blasted off and to destroy them when they’re big, slow, and still over their home territories. ABL may sound like the stuff of science fiction, but the technical aspects of the project are more or less proven. To become a reality, it merely requires continued funding.
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monkey61 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:51:57am |
Re: JFK Jr.
Back in 1999, a couple of my friends and I went to see an early (5 p.m.) showing of "The Blair Witch Project" on the Friday it opened. There was a preview of "The Insider", and with the black and white images, courtroom scenes, etc. I leaned over to my buddy Doug and said "This looks like a sequel to 'JFK'" and his response was "You mean. 'JFK, Jr.' by Oliver Stone?"
Of course, we didn't hear the news about JFK Jr.'s crash until the following morning...bad timing.
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harrylook Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:08:07am |
Maybe we need a preemptive apology to try to prevent the long-range launch.
/obamaton
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Joshua Cohen Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:11:53am |
Another day another treat :(
World is gone crazy!
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tradewind Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:17:34am |
re: #40 Joshua Cohen
We'll know when the situation gets really serious.... HBO will start endless replays of Team America, World Police.....
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tradewind Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:31:28am |
re: #10 Alouette
Huh?
In the JFK crash, the inexperienced pilot lost his artificial horizon and ended up upside down...
The EgyptAir crash was a Hamascide by the F/O redlining it into the sea.
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Rexatosis Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:36:24am |
Kim must be upset he has been bumped from the MSM by Michael Jackson's death//////
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jaydub Thu, Jul 2, 2009 2:19:35pm |
The motivation for today's demonstration could well be brain damage.
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winnd54 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 5:24:08pm |
Why look at this big Uncle Sam guy. I can kick him as hard as I want and he doesn't do anything!
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capt26thga Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:01:50pm |
If a shooting war ever starts with NK I am afraid our navy will discover just how inadequate our ships are. Destroyers and cruisers pack a terrific punch. They just cant take much of a punch. Thin skin is the new navy. They may just wish they had one of the Iowa's back in business.
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