So how many of these do various stalkers show?

Some people were cuckoo long before the internet was widely available...

Anonymity can be dangerous.

It destroys the weak of spirit.

re: #1 Kosh's Shadow

So how many of these do various stalkers show?

Let's see - a particularly savage guy seems to have definitely had 6 and 4, and maybe 5.

re: #3 Syrah

Anonymity can be dangerous.

It destroys the weak of spirit.

...and emboldens the bullies.

Some of the people described in the article sound a lot like former lizards.

Dear Charles,

Thank you for your patience dealing with everyone's issues & disorders. You are a secular saint!

!kiding be to got yoU

I just aint sure where I fit in now.

re: #9 buzzsawmonkey

And off I go, babbling into the night.

Brook, is that you?

Being called away.

Have a great evening all!

so, does it mean some will get disability based on them?
///

re: #5 pink freud

...and emboldens the bullies.

It allows a person to let their inner id run wild. With anonymity, there is no consequence. With out consequence, there is nothing between us and the animal within.

re: #12 ggt

Enjoy your Fourth, ggt!

bbl

That aide to McDermott needs some serious help.

obama's new health care plan won't cover any of these afflictions.

"no reply to the perfect post"....
new comments
new comments
new comments....ahahaha!

re: #18 _RememberTonyC

obama's new health care plan won't cover any of these afflictions.

We are all DOOMED.
///

dingitis is not even mentioned...whew!

re: #18 _RememberTonyC

obama's new health care plan won't cover any of these afflictions.

But they'll give you a pill to ease your pain...

re: #18 _RememberTonyC

obama's new health care plan won't cover any of these afflictions.

but if you have one and are not insured you will be fined...1000$

re: #14 Syrah

It allows a person to let their inner id run wild. With anonymity, there is no consequence. With out consequence, there is nothing between us and the animal within.

We'd better not let these people near the Krell machine.

My favorite: The Guy Who Everyone Hates but Who Never Leaves

re: #21 albusteve

10,000 updings!

re: #18 _RememberTonyC

obama's new health care plan won't cover any of these afflictions.

Or many others, either.

One obvious way to reduce the inflammatory nature of posts would be to have more realistic avatars that could change expression on demand for offensive posts. Personally, I'd like a collection of pictures of the more attractive women on this blog. Hey, wouldn't ALL us guys like that! You know, reduce anonymity, kindle romance- er, I mean compare notes about the Kindle.
/heh.

It occurs that the anonimity of the Internet is the greatest testosterone enhancer yet devised.

I actually prefer to discuss certain issues online than in person, like politics.

Usually when I discuss political issues face to face with someone else, someone usually ends up screaming.

It's become a status symbol to have a psych diagnosis these days. Normal and sane seem to be out of fashion.

re: #25 Killgore Trout

My favorite: The Guy Who Everyone Hates but Who Never Leaves

troll?

re: #6 Sharmuta

Some of the people described in the article sound a lot like former lizards.

Yeah, all too much so.

Is thread jumping one of the disorders?
/

re: #22 96RoadKing

But they'll give you a pill to ease your pain...

or euthanize you, if you're a troublemaker who doesn't die on schedule.

re: #31 pink freud

It's become a status symbol to have a psych diagnosis these days. Normal and sane seem to be out of fashion.

Just look at our role models - "celebrities", politicians, and sports stars who all act like cranky 2-year-olds.

Online Intermittent Explosive Disorder.....flouncing?

re: #28 NelsFree

One obvious way to reduce the inflammatory nature of posts would be to have more realistic avatars that could change expression on demand for offensive posts. Personally, I'd like a collection of pictures of the more attractive women on this blog. Hey, wouldn't ALL us guys like that! You know, reduce anonymity, kindle romance- er, I mean compare notes about the Kindle.
/heh.

I just program my albusteve animatron to post while I go the the bar...he's not very sharp but neither is he very sensitive

Online Intermittent Explosive Disorder (a.k.a. The Thin-Skinned Rage-o-holic)

Like serial killers, these people seem pretty normal at first. For hours or even days, they'll carry on funny, charming conversations in a forum or comment section. But then something, anything, sets him off and he devolves into a tantrum that would make Christian Bale say, "Dude, calm down! Jesus."

Sounds sort of like a few people who used to comment here who are now commenting from a stalker blog.

Digital means finger. Which one?

Virtual means fake of course.

Newborn deer eaten with hot melted cheese: Fon-fon doo.

re: #32 Gella

Reminds me of Nodrog. I didn't mind him but when I got here everyone hated him. After he was banned he spent years blogging about his time here. Just a few months ago he made a final appeal to be let back in to lgf. He eventually gave up. I wonder what he's doing now.

re: #36 Kosh's Shadow

Just look at our role models - "celebrities", politicians, and sports stars who all act like cranky 2-year-olds.

And then there's Barbara Streisand.

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

[Link: www.flickr.com...]

Well lizards- my acess to the web has been limited all week and will continue to be right up until the 4th of July weekend, so I'll take this opportunity to wish everyone a happy inedependece day!

/and a happy belated Canada day to the north-of-the-border lizards

re: #41 Killgore Trout

Reminds me of Nodrog. I didn't mind him but when I got here everyone hated him. After he was banned he spent years blogging about his time here. Just a few months ago he made a final appeal to be let back in to lgf. He eventually gave up. I wonder what he's doing now.

washing car windshields at the 7-11

re: #41 Killgore Trout

Reminds me of Nodrog. I didn't mind him but when I got here everyone hated him. After he was banned he spent years blogging about his time here. Just a few months ago he made a final appeal to be let back in to lgf. He eventually gave up. I wonder what he's doing now.

he finally found some other non-internet form of life?
///

re: #35 _RememberTonyC

or euthanize you, if you're a troublemaker who doesn't die on schedule.

"We're here about your heart...you signed a donor card didn't you?"

re: #6 Sharmuta

I thought immediately of Gordon when they talked about the person who enjoyed being abused on the forum. Dude(s) had issues.

re: #18 _RememberTonyC

obama's new health care plan won't cover any of these afflictions.

But under 0bamacare, such crippling conditions like Voting Republican or Making Any Money will be cured...

re: #25 Killgore Trout

My favorite: The Guy Who Everyone Hates but Who Never Leaves

Yep!
*just kidding

re: #41 Killgore Trout

I think he still does drive by snippings from time to time at various places.

/so I can sue window's explorer & verizon dsl?

The interwebs have not changed me much. No sir, not much at all at all.

re: #25 Killgore Trout

My favorite: The Guy Who Everyone Hates but Who Never Leaves

I don't hate you and I don't want you to leave.

Oooh, you're talking about avanti ?

Shame on you.

////

Shoot, man , My favorite customer is a raging moonbat on some issues.
Doesn't mean he's not a nice guy. I'd help him out if he needed it, and I believe he'd do the same. I'm guilty of the "they" disease at times, but you're good people.

Later Lizards. My congratulations to all of us on our independence. May we be able to keep it.

OT
Planned Parenthood provides healthcare to Americans! Mammograms too.

(They just advertised on Hannity's show on Fox News)

(Why advertise when they get taxpayers' bailout money?)

They left out the guy that takes a contrary position on nearly everything....just to annoy other posters.....or be a pain in the ass.

re: #53 Racer X

The interwebs have not changed me much. No sir, not much at all at all.

Some where a mother is saying. "what have I done?"

I wish to register again a long standing complaint about the absence of an addiction disclaimer pertaining to this blog. A matter of social conscience, I feel.

re: #57 BignJames

They left out the guy that takes a contrary position on nearly everything....just to annoy other posters.....or be a pain in the ass.

That's not true!
/

re: #41 Killgore Trout

Reminds me of Nodrog. I didn't mind him but when I got here everyone hated him. After he was banned he spent years blogging about his time here. Just a few months ago he made a final appeal to be let back in to lgf. He eventually gave up. I wonder what he's doing now.

He bounces around to other blogs. The Nodrog has been spotted at several of our stalker blogs, including The Blogmocracy. He managed to get himself banned from AtS.

re: #44 Fenway_Nation

Well lizards- my acess to the web has been limited all week and will continue to be right up until the 4th of July weekend, so I'll take this opportunity to wish everyone a happy inedependece day!

/and a happy belated Canada day to the north-of-the-border lizards

you too, Fens!

re: #60 VegasRick

That's not true!
/

So you say!

//

re: #60 VegasRick

That's not true!
/

I'm thinking the late Cog.

re: #61 Honorary Yooper

He bounces around to other blogs. The Nodrog has been spotted at several of our stalker blogs, including The Blogmocracy. He managed to get himself banned from AtS.

stalking the stalker....

Great article. Funny, and very accurate.

Along with anonymity, the sheer speed and volume of communications on the Internet are part of why some people behave like jerks online. They get overwhelmed by the velocity and number of postings/emails, and don't have time to think them, or their own responses, out properly. So they shoot from the hip, and often end up sounding like unsocialized two-year-olds.

re: #63 FurryOldGuyJeans

So you say!

//

Link please!

re: #41 Killgore Trout

Reminds me of Nodrog. I didn't mind him but when I got here everyone hated him. After he was banned he spent years blogging about his time here. Just a few months ago he made a final appeal to be let back in to lgf.

He did? Oops. Missed that.

re: #38 albusteve

I just program my albusteve animatron to post while I go the the bar...he's not very sharp but neither is he very sensitive

Was this him at 2:10?

re: #24 Kosh's Shadow

OT

Kosh: strange coincidence that you point to Forbidden Planet. The wiki article says that JMS is writing a "reimagining" of the story.

re: #68 Charles

He did? Oops. Missed that.

Funny! (I think)

re: #66 mikalm

Perhaps shoot from the lip would be an even betterdescription?

re: #68 Charles

He did? Oops. Missed that.

LOL!

re: #51 Sharmuta

I think he still does drive by snippings from time to time at various places.

We must take away his Scissors!
Does he do Topiary, too?

re: #74 NelsFree

We must take away his Scissors!
Does he do Topiary, too?

Maybe he'll put his eye out.

re: #69 NelsFree

I contract him out every so often...kids love him

here's a good take on the Honduran coup and the "unusual" reactions to it.

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

re: #67 VegasRick

Link please!

[Link: www.cracked.com...]

re: #57 BignJames

They left out the guy that takes a contrary position on nearly everything....just to annoy other posters.....or be a pain in the ass.

No they didn't.

re: #51 Sharmuta

I think he still does drive by snippings from time to time at various places.

is he a mohel?

re: #75 VegasRick

Maybe he'll put his eye out.

Obama care to the rescue.

re: #64 BignJames

I'm thinking the late Cog.

Cog had his chance....He was banned once but Charles let him back because he brought an edge to the room........Which was cool.Charles is a fair man..
upon reinstatement he was cool for awhile...Then he just had to be a dickhead to everybody....
After a while it was obvious that Cog was going the way of the dinosaurs...
You reading this Cog? Dumbass...Charles gave you an inch and you took a mile..Dumbass...Need a sock puppet reg?
For pretending to be so smart.Cog you are so dumb.....

re: #59 irongrampa

I wish to register again a long standing complaint about the absence of an addiction disclaimer pertaining to this blog. A matter of social conscience, I feel.

Gees, it's 9:30 already !

Where'd the kid go ?

DAMN.

//

re: #59 irongrampa

I wish to register again a long standing complaint about the absence of an addiction disclaimer pertaining to this blog. A matter of social conscience, I feel.

*stands*
*clears throat*

Hi! My name is Racer X, and I have been addicted to LGF for about three years.

*sits*

re: #82 HoosierHoops

Cog had his chance....He was banned once but Charles let him back because he brought an edge to the room........Which was cool.Charles is a fair man..
upon reinstatement he was cool for awhile...Then he just had to be a dickhead to everybody....
After a while it was obvious that Cog was going the way of the dinosaurs...
You reading this Cog? Dumbass...Charles gave you an inch and you took a mile..Dumbass...Need a sock puppet reg?
For pretending to be so smart.Cog you are so dumb.....

Pretending has a way of losing to reality, does it not?
Sup hoopster?

re: #30 The Other Les

I actually prefer to discuss certain issues online than in person, like politics.

Usually when I discuss political issues face to face with someone else, someone usually ends up screaming.

I'm the same way. After a while, it gets a bit tiring, when someone you know;

1. Asks your opinion of a political/social issue;

2. You give it (politely);

3. They don't agree;

4. They "go nuclear" on you, refuse to listen to your reasoning, accuse you of various heinous crimes/beliefs/ etc., and finish up with "I thought you were an intelligent person!" (I.e., someone who had the same views they do.)

I finally realized that the reason this often happens when dealing with "progressives", at least, is that many such prefer a more "mystical" worldview (New Age, etc.), in which "feelings" are more important and "true" than Western, linear logic, which they regard as "cold", "unfeeling", etc. As such, when you present them with an argument based on factual reasoning, you and they are literally not "reasoning" in the same way. And to them, your method attacks the very foundations of their belief system and reality model. It is comparable to trying to explain the Copernican system of planetary motion to a Persian priest/astronomer of Xerxes' time, to whom those planete' in the sky are not solid bodies moving according to immutable physical laws, but gods traversing the heavens as they will, in patterns intended to convey their orders to mortals through the insight of the priest/astrologer. In short, you are committing apostasy, blasphemy, and few other juicy ecclesiastical crimes all at once.

Believe me- the Lizard Legion knows far more about my sociopolitical views than anyone except one or two people who know me "face to face", who have known me literally for decades.

cheers

eon

Gotta run some errands and get dinner. See ya laters, Lizards. And a happy long Independence Day weekend to my fellow Americans!

re: #82 HoosierHoops

Meant to say this in the other thread, but missed it--congrats on raising a fine son, sir. Please pass my sincere thanks to him from a vet, if you would.

re: #57 BignJames

They left out the guy that takes a contrary position on nearly everything....just to annoy other posters.....or be a pain in the ass.

No you didn't.

re: #82 HoosierHoops

Cog had his chance....He was banned once but Charles let him back because he brought an edge to the room........Which was cool.Charles is a fair man..
upon reinstatement he was cool for awhile...Then he just had to be a dickhead to everybody....
After a while it was obvious that Cog was going the way of the dinosaurs...
You reading this Cog? Dumbass...Charles gave you an inch and you took a mile..Dumbass...Need a sock puppet reg?
For pretending to be so smart.Cog you are so dumb.....

well ouch....

re: #84 Racer X

*stands*
*clears throat*

Hi! My name is Macker, and I have been addicted to LGF for five years years.

*sits*

re: #91 Macker

Oops, that should be five years. My bad.

/PIMF

re: #91 Macker

*stands*
*clears throat*

Hi! My name is Macker, and I have been addicted to LGF for five years years.

*sits*

Hi Macker ... have a drink and a laptop ...

re: #68 Charles

Ya snooze, ya lose.
/Oh, well

re: #91 Macker

*stands*
*clears throat*

Hi! My name is Macker, and I have been addicted to LGF for five years years.

*sits*

Macker, you do a great impression of Racer X.

re: #94 Killgore Trout

Ya snooze, ya lose.
/Oh, well

if he can't post here how do you know he made one last appeal?...I'm confused

re: #91 Macker

*stands*
*clears throat*

Hi! My name is Macker, and I have been addicted to LGF for five years years.

*sits*

Hi Macker!

Odd. I just viewed this, and now I have an uncontrollable urge to go buy The Catcher in the Rye.

Funny article. Also enjoyed the linked page on how to deal with trolls: 5 Ways to Stop Trolls From Killing the Internet.

[Link: www.cracked.com...]

#4.
Start a Posse of Moderators, and Arm Them

Right now if you have a blog or forum or anything else with open comments, and you don't have a human moderator to watch it, you're going to wind up with a wasteland. As soon as more than one troll shows up, they will feed off each other until everyone else is gone. You have to control them. And don't start talking about free speech; the troll's goal is to shut down speech, to either fill the channel with noise until no one can talk to each other, or to get everyone talking about him instead of the subject at hand. He's a guy in a coffee shop screaming nonsense over a bullhorn.

Spot on!

re: #84 Racer X

*stands*
*clears throat*

Hi! My name is DEZ, and I have been addicted to LGF for two years years, and have absolutely no intention of changing.

*walks out defiantly*

re: #88 irongrampa

Meant to say this in the other thread, but missed it--congrats on raising a fine son, sir. Please pass my sincere thanks to him from a vet, if you would.

You are very kind sir..... I am a very proud Marine Parent...

re: #101 HoosierHoops

You are very kind sir..... I am a very proud Marine Parent...

HOAH!

re: #98 Racer X

Odd. I just viewed this, and now I have an uncontrollable urge to go buy The Catcher in the Rye.

Makes me wanna play Pac-Man.

re: #90 albusteve

well ouch....

Yup..

re: #101 HoosierHoops

You are very kind sir..... I am a very proud Marine Parent...

you should be...and I am a Marine's proud son

*stands*
*clears throat*

Hi! My name is pre-Boomer Marine brat, and the second week I was here I made the perfect post ... AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR ONE OF YOU IDIOTS TO UP-DING IT!

/................... *ducks*

now that's just crazy talk.

re: #106 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*stands*
*clears throat*

Hi! My name is pre-Boomer Marine brat, and the second week I was here I made the perfect post ... AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR ONE OF YOU IDIOTS TO UP-DING IT!

/................... *ducks*

I hope suspense is something you enjoy.

re: #106 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*stands*
*clears throat*

Hi! My name is pre-Boomer Marine brat, and the second week I was here I made the perfect post ... AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR ONE OF YOU IDIOTS TO UP-DING IT!

/................... *ducks*

Link ?

(Seriously,)
Thanks for posting the link to this article, Charles!

re: #108 DEZes

Ouch.

re: #108 DEZes

I make the perfect toast occassionally but the only upding is my toaster.

re: #104 HoosierHoops

Yup..

he talked down to people...that's what pissed me off about him....otherwise I could care less

re: #108 DEZes

I hope suspense is something you enjoy.

*CRUSHING KEYBOARD IN A DEATH GRIP*

*smiles*
Yes.

re: #109 SasquatchOnSteroids

Link ?

LOL!

re: #99 Jimmah

Funny article. Also enjoyed the linked page on how to deal with trolls: 5 Ways to Stop Trolls From Killing the Internet.

[Link: www.cracked.com...]

Spot on!

That's completely true. Every unmoderated comment thread everywhere eventually gets turned into a wasteland. (If it doesn't, that's only because there aren't enough people reading it).

John Bolton doing what he does best; telling it like it is:

Only those most theologically committed to negotiation still believe Iran will fully renounce its nuclear program. Unfortunately, the Obama administration has a "Plan B," which would allow Iran to have a "peaceful" civil nuclear power program while publicly "renouncing" the objective of nuclear weapons. Obama would define such an outcome as "success," even though in reality it would hardly be different from what Iran is doing and saying now. A "peaceful" uranium enrichment program, "peaceful" reactors such as Bushehr and "peaceful" heavy-water projects like that under construction at Arak leave Iran with an enormous breakout capability to produce nuclear weapons in very short order. And anyone who believes the Revolutionary Guard Corps will abandon its weaponization and ballistic missile programs probably believes that there was no fraud in Iran's June 12 election. See "huge credibility gap," supra.

In short, the stolen election and its tumultuous aftermath have dramatically highlighted the strategic and tactical flaws in Obama's game plan. With regime change off the table for the coming critical period in Iran's nuclear program, Israel's decision on using force is both easier and more urgent. Since there is no likelihood that diplomacy will start or finish in time, or even progress far enough to make any real difference, there is no point waiting for negotiations to play out. In fact, given the near certainty of Obama changing his definition of "success," negotiations represent an even more dangerous trap for Israel.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Mrs. Clinton and her boss insist we negotiate even though there's nothing we have to offer the mad mullahs that they want (save for Israel, of course). The clock is ticking, Bibi...

re: #111 irongrampa

Ouch.

Boomers cool as they come, thats why I do things like this

re: #51 Sharmuta

I think he still does drive by snippings flounces from time to time at various places.

FTFY

re: #112 chedgeman

I make the perfect toast occassionally but the only upding is my toaster.

GOOD one!

Nice snag kitty dude!

re: #116 iceweasel

That's completely true. Every unmoderated comment thread everywhere eventually gets turned into a wasteland. (If it doesn't, that's only because there aren't enough people reading it).

The spammers kill the trolls.

re: #121 Racer X

Nice snag kitty dude!

WOW, its bat cat.

So what is it called when your IQ is 167 and you are obsessed with testosterone?

Good article on the problems with the movie industry:

Has CG had its day?

I saw Transformers this weekend and after sitting through nearly two and a half hours of a movie that felt like watching somebody else playing a computer game I came out of the cinema feeling underwhelmed and flat.

What I mean by that is that there was no ‘wow' factor to the thing. By having so much going on and having such a movie spectacle it's like throwing everything you can do with CG on screen, with explosions, robots, more explosions, and the usual Michael Bay subtlety going on. The entire affair seemed clinical, personality free and really just quite dull, a fireworks display of pixels without the hotdog or jacket spud of entertainment or enjoyment..

In my opinion it seems that by bunging everything through a computer that cinema has shown the ‘man behind the curtain', that anything and everything has that digital tweak added to it. The spectacle has superseded the ‘magic' that is actual storytelling as the most important element to a film

re: #118 DEZes

Boomers cool as they come, thats why I do things like this

*sniff*
I will ignore that.
I will ignore that.
I will ignore that.
I will ignore that.
I will ignore that.
I will ignore that.

re: #121 Racer X

Nice snag kitty dude!

So much for that baby hummingbird...

re: #118 DEZes

Boomers cool as they come, thats why I do things like this

And that you very much
*unmanly blush*

re: #126 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*sniff*
I will ignore that.
I will ignore that.
I will ignore that.
I will ignore that.
I will ignore that.
I will ignore that.

Come back here, fight like a man.

re: #123 DEZes

WOW, its bat cat.

now THAT'S what I'm talkin about...my kinda cat right there

re: #130 albusteve

now THAT'S what I'm talkin about...my kinda cat right there

Was that cool or what?

re: #124 Thanos

So what is it called when your IQ is 167 and you are obsessed with testosterone?

/fronting?

re: #124 Thanos

So what is it called when your IQ is 167 and you are obsessed with testosterone?

Fark.

Awesome Illusion.

Freaky.

re: #124 Thanos

So what is it called when your IQ is 167 and you are obsessed with testosterone?

hilarious really...that was one oddball poster

Jeez, the first one, intermittent explosive disorder, sounds like Al Franken.

re: #129 DEZes

Come back here, fight like a man.

Okay

re: #124 Thanos

So what is it called when your IQ is 167 and you are obsessed with testosterone?

Einsteinbrenner disease.

re: #116 iceweasel

That's completely true. Every unmoderated comment thread everywhere eventually gets turned into a wasteland. (If it doesn't, that's only because there aren't enough people reading it).

Yep , just look at the comments on youtube, for example. I think that's like the final state of entropy that unmoderated forums reach.

re: #138 SasquatchOnSteroids

Einsteinbrenner disease.

He needs a baseball team.

re: #137 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Okay

Eat steel.

re: #121 Racer X

Nice snag kitty dude!

Whoa. Great fielding there. But i bet the landing on that coat tree smarted a bit.

The look in his eyes at the end was priceless.

This is my flying mouse. Get your own!

cheers

eon

re: #141 DEZes

Eat steel.

heh

re: #122 Alouette

The spammers kill the trolls.

♪ ♫ Hi-ho, the derry-o ♪ ♫

I thought liberalism (is that a word) was around long before the Internet. I know it's a personality disorder.

re: #144 Sharmuta

♪ ♫ Hi-ho, the derry-o ♪ ♫

Bwavo Bwavo

That was a pretty cool blog post. The disorders Kimak listed reminded me of some posters here past and present. Thats alls I'm sayin.

re: #143 pre-Boomer Marine brat

heh

try this again
Eat steel

"Munchausen by Internet (a.k.a. The Sob Story Teller)"

Hmmmmphhhh! At this point, I should probably reiterate that my dog really did die a while back and that Judas and Jezebel (aka Jabba the Slutt) really are my brother and ex-wife respectively. Even so, I have no serious health problems, both of my daughters are beautiful and (perhaps more importantly) self-supporting, and my grandchildren are the greatest treasure in the known universe. It does annoy me that I am losing my hair and getting a lot of wrinkles but since I am now 60 (holy shit!) years of age, I probably don't have much cause for complaint.
Actually I can do anything I could do when I was 20, er, just not as often; or as long; or with quite the same results.

re: #125 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

The problem with many movies today is shit writing. It's not that the cgi is 'too good' - actually, I think it still has a long way to go before it gets really good - it's just that it's not being used wisely, and that it's being used to pad out predictable, empty stories.

re: #101 HoosierHoops

You are very kind sir..... I am a very proud Marine Parent...

ooRAH!

I watched this Tom Waits dvd tonight:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]

It was pretty good, but there was one narrator who was talking about Waits' anti-Iraq war songs and he said something like, "We're living in a time that is remarkably close to fascism."

What a douche!

If there was anything like fascism in this country, that guy would be dead or in a camp.

Obama to tell Putin: Time to move past Cold War

WASHINGTON – Days from his first Moscow summit, President Barack Obama declared Thursday that former Russian President Vladimir Putin "still has a lot of sway" in his nation and needs an in-person reminder the Cold War is over.

Oh, Puh-leeeaaaase. This coming from a guy with a "please take my lunch money" sign stuck on his back.

re: #108 DEZes

I hope suspense is something you enjoy.

Good thing suspense doesn't kill so I've heard.

re: #118 DEZes

Boomers cool as they come, thats why I do things like this

re: #128 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And that you very much
*unmanly blush*

BTW, DEZ, that was supposed to be a "Thank you" in that perfect post of mine.

/awshit!

"They" say 60 is the new 40. It must have really sucked to be 40 in the old days.

re: #149 shiplord kirel

Look at it as I do--as the song goes, "I aint as good as I once was, but I'm as good ONCE as I ever was".

re: #149 shiplord kirel

"Munchausen by Internet (a.k.a. The Sob Story Teller)"

Hmmmmphhhh! At this point, I should probably reiterate that my dog really did die a while back and that Judas and Jezebel (aka Jabba the Slutt) really are my brother and ex-wife respectively. Even so, I have no serious health problems, both of my daughters are beautiful and (perhaps more importantly) self-supporting, and my grandchildren are the greatest treasure in the known universe. It does annoy me that I am losing my hair and getting a lot of wrinkles but since I am now 60 (holy shit!) years of age, I probably don't have much cause for complaint.
Actually I can do anything I could do when I was 20, er, just not as often; or as long; or with quite the same results.

a little more rock and roll will peel some of those years back amigo

re: #148 DEZes

try this again
Eat steel

Yikes!
Toshiro Kitteh!

re: #155 pre-Boomer Marine brat

BTW, DEZ, that was supposed to be a "Thank you" in that perfect post of mine.

/awshit!

I read it three times before that sank in, any how, your welcome and I meant it.

re: #150 Jimmah

The problem with many movies today is shit writing. It's not that the cgi is 'too good' - actually, I think it still has a long way to go before it gets really good - it's just that it's not being used wisely, and that it's being used to pad out predictable, empty stories.

Thats the point of the article. CGI really doesn't have impression or impact anymore, but it keeps getting thrown up for the "WOW, LOOK AT THIS!" reaction instead of working on an actual script, plot or acting.

re: #145 Sergeant Major

I thought liberalism (is that a word) was around long before the Internet. I know it's a personality disorder.

* ** *
Hey hey hey,

Liberalism is a learned belief system that can be unlearned.

Witness the many Marxists who deprogrammed themselves: Jeane Kilpatrick, Ronald Reagan's ambassador to the UN, for example.

Entire former Soviet Bloc countries have deprogrammed themselves from their Marxist doctrine.

re: #154 Idle Drifter

Good thing suspense doesn't kill so I've heard.

Aint that the truth.

re: #153 SasquatchOnSteroids

Obama to tell Putin: Time to move past Cold War

Oh, Puh-leeeaaaase. This coming from a guy with a "please take my lunch money" sign stuck on his back.

He's never read of what Khruschev did to JFK

Well, I have to hit the sack, while I'm still awake enough to say....

Good Night, Lizards.

Sleep tight.

cheers

eon

re: #162 alegrias

* ** *
Hey hey hey,

Liberalism is a learned belief system that can be unlearned.

Witness the many Marxists who deprogrammed themselves: Jeane Kilpatrick, Ronald Reagan's ambassador to the UN, for example.

Entire former Soviet Bloc countries have deprogrammed themselves from their Marxist doctrine.

I hope you're right...otherwise we are fucked

"Munchausen by Internet"
Bwha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha........

re: #125 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Several big cases in point are certain George Lucas projects of recent years, including Indiana Jones and the Kurse of CGI.

re: #112 chedgeman

I make the perfect toast occassionally but the only upding is my toaster.

Your a young Lizard.
Welcome to LGF, cheers to you.

re: #124 Thanos

So what is it called when your IQ is 167 and you are obsessed with testosterone?

F*cking genious?

re: #162 alegrias

* ** *
Hey hey hey,

Liberalism is a learned belief system that can be unlearned.

Witness the many Marxists who deprogrammed themselves: Jeane Kilpatrick, Ronald Reagan's ambassador to the UN, for example.

Entire former Soviet Bloc countries have deprogrammed themselves from their Marxist doctrine.

And, yrs. trly..

Top 10 Ironic Ads From History

re: #164 pre-Boomer Marine brat

He's never read of what Khruschev did to JFK

why do that?...he's the One...supremely confident despite history, reality and Batman comics

re: #164 pre-Boomer Marine brat

He's never read of what Khruschev did to JFK

Hypothetical.

A President Obama during "the Cuban Missile Crisis":

"Cuba is a sovereign nation. However, it is my intention to meet with both Castro and Kruschev, without pre-conditions."

Oh man, who does this remind you of?

Someone with the need for self-abasement feels that they should be perpetually punished for their wrongdoings. They're like the albino that whipped himself in The Da Vinci Code, only instead of drawing blood they draw "Fuck you noobtard" comments. It's either a subconscious way to feel like they're paying back the world for their sins, or they're just so out of self-esteem that they can't muster the energy to defend themselves.

If taken to an extreme, it can even turn into Online Erotic Humiliation where the abuse turns into sexual arousal. So the next time you tell someone to go fuck themselves, you might have just given them the material to do so.

Worried about today's unemployment figures and those foreclosure signs in your neighborhood? Relax. Obama's tax cheating, affirmative action appointee helpfully explains:

“Not all the recovery money has been put to work yet,” said the labor secretary, Hilda L. Solis. “We’re making progress.”

But Ms. Solis acknowledged that joblessness was already much worse than the administration projected in January when it created its stimulus spending bill, suggesting then that joblessness would peak at about 8 percent.

Asked why the unemployment rate is already much higher, Ms. Solis noted that much of the stimulus money was moving slowly, with construction projects in particular requiring time-consuming government permits.

“Over all, it’s been a challenge,” Ms. Solis said. “We still have a ways to go.”

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

re: #169 DEZes

Your a young Lizard.
Welcome to LGF, cheers to you.

Looks promising for having a valuable addition to the pun club there.

I have worked with engineers who I eventually diagnosed with some form of Munchausen syndrome. It seemed automation or equipment was always broke down in their areas and they were always fixing it. Then they got to complain about how crappy the equipment was and how they had to patch it all together. Other people would work the same area on other shifts and it would run fine for them.

Night all!

re: #166 albusteve

I hope you're right...otherwise we are fucked

* * * *
Albusteve,

My immediate concern is reversing the prospects of the folks trying to program our country to BE Marxist lite, redistributionist, class warfare based as President Obama clearly intends to do.

re: #162 alegrias

True ,true, but now I hear that it's only treated with large amounts of prescription medication and frontal lobotomies

re: #177 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Looks promising for having a valuable addition to the pun club there.

That is a good thing.

re: #174 Gus 802

Hypothetical.

A President Obama during "the Cuban Missile Crisis":

"Cuba is a sovereign nation. However, it is my intention to meet with both Castro and Kruschev, without pre-conditions."

*scene fades*

*fading in*
Khruschev beating Obama over the head with his shoe ......

re: #86 eon

I finally realized that the reason this often happens when dealing with "progressives", at least, is that many such prefer a more "mystical" worldview (New Age, etc.), in which "feelings" are more important and "true" than Western, linear logic, which they regard as "cold", "unfeeling", etc. As such, when you present them with an argument based on factual reasoning, you and they are literally not "reasoning" in the same way. And to them, your method attacks the very foundations of their belief system and reality model. It is comparable to trying to explain the Copernican system of planetary motion to a Persian priest/astronomer of Xerxes' time, to whom those planete' in the sky are not solid bodies moving according to immutable physical laws, but gods traversing the heavens as they will, in patterns intended to convey their orders to mortals through the insight of the priest/astrologer. In short, you are committing apostasy, blasphemy, and few other juicy ecclesiastical crimes all at once.

eon, I think your description of that feeling-based mindset is very accurate, but I question labeling it simply as "New Age" or "progressive."

In fact, it seems almost identical to the experiences we have here when trying to reason with extreme advocates of Intelligent Design, Nirtherism, anti-Vax, and any number of other causes. No amount of factual references seem to work, and the exchange ends in a burst of emotion and name-calling.

I often talk to people who seem to measure one's patriotism or conservatism by how emotional he/she feels about it, so that the mere quoting of facts, in itself, proves you're not a "good" person, in their view. I do think this emotionally based reality model completely straddles the political spectrum.

Anybody disagree?

How can you be so cold and unfeeling?

(Tag a "/" to that last sentence, of course...)

re: #176 David Simon

Worried about today's unemployment figures and those foreclosure signs in your neighborhood? Relax. Obama's tax cheating, affirmative action appointee helpfully explains:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

If I were interviewing her, I'd lose my job immediately because I couldn't help myself from saying, "You realize that's complete bullshit and no one believes you, right?"

re: #171 MandyManners

And, yrs. trly..

* * * * *
Congratulations on your success.

(I had a relative who carried Mao's Little Red Book around, how's that for embarassing?)

re: #125 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Has CG had its day?

Has CG had its day? Hah! As proof, I'll repost a new trailer I put up the other night:

re: #183 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*scene fades*

*fading in*
Khruschev beating Obama over the head with his shoe ......

"Afterwards, Obama was said to have appreciated the intense debate."

//

Munchausen by Internet (a.k.a. The Sob Story Teller)

That one reminded me of someone who used to post on Morocco.com, Egypt.com and Turkey.com, under a variety of sockpuppets (nics like fatima, maryam etc). She'd introduce herself as a nice, slightly vulnerable person seeking help with some family/health/ romantic etc problem. Everyone would try to help her, but after a while the discussion would always start to turn nasty, with the girl taking offence at some rather harmless piece of advice that she had been given, and then giving that person, and anyone else who tried to arbitrate in the matter a hard time, before finally letting rip with all kinds of abuse and threats etc.

I must admit, it did become funny watching those communities falling for the same act several times.

re: #168 Dar ul Harb

Several big cases in point are certain George Lucas projects of recent years, including Indiana Jones and the Kurse of CGI.

Yup. Effects are supposed augment and support the story, not supposed to cover for the lack of one.

**cough POD RACE cough cough**

re: #182 DEZes

That is a good thing.

Yes.

re: #150 Jimmah

The problem with many movies today is shit writing. It's not that the cgi is 'too good' - actually, I think it still has a long way to go before it gets really good - it's just that it's not being used wisely, and that it's being used to pad out predictable, empty stories.

Well, on the other hand you've got the Lord of the Rings trilogy, in which CGI was used to some its best potential in service of telling an epic story.

The CGI that I find sucks the most is where it's used in action movies to do stunts that the laws of physics and the plausible survival of stuntmen just wouldn't allow.

re: #183 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*scene fades*

*fading in*
Khruschev beating Obama over the head with his shoe ......

Why was I thinking Indian rub.

re: #178 Mich-again

I have worked with engineers who I eventually diagnosed with some form of Munchausen syndrome. It seemed automation or equipment was always broke down in their areas and they were always fixing it. Then they got to complain about how crappy the equipment was and how they had to patch it all together. Other people would work the same area on other shifts and it would run fine for them.

That is fascinating. At least they're not killing people like the firefighter/arsonists and nurses who cause patients to code so they can save them.

re: #172 doppelganglander

The interesting thing about the Union Carbide disaster is the same thing happened here, I think in West Virginia. But because of the weather conditions (I can't remember the details) the cloud of toxic chemicals either floated off or dissipated and nobody was hurt.

re: #153 SasquatchOnSteroids

Obama to tell Putin: Time to move past Cold War

Oh, Puh-leeeaaaase. This coming from a guy with a "please take my lunch money" sign stuck on his back.

Here I thought it meant something else entirely....

re: #193 DEZes

Why was I thinking Indian rub.

Like an "Indian burn" or a "noogie?"

//

re: #180 alegrias

* * * *
Albusteve,

My immediate concern is reversing the prospects of the folks trying to program our country to BE Marxist lite, redistributionist, class warfare based as President Obama clearly intends to do.

have you tried blunt instruments yet?....
jus kidding...I am very pessimistic after this last election...shocked you might say...we are truly dancing with the devil imo

re: #193 DEZes

Why was I thinking Indian rub.

What I was thinking about Castro doing with his cigar was ...
... well, never mind.

Participation in Internet forums such as this is the perfect outlet for the baby boomer (been there done that) population. Baby boomers are too old to go out much anymore so they stay at home and, with the little creativity still left in their blood, contribute to Internet forums such as LGF. This is not a critique. It's just a fact.

re: #161 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Thats the point of the article. CGI really doesn't have impression or impact anymore, but it keeps getting thrown up for the "WOW, LOOK AT THIS!" reaction instead of working on an actual script, plot or acting.

2003.
Master and Commander vs. Star Wars EPIII Revenge of the Sith for best special effects

IMHO Master and Commander had much better effects because you couldn't really tell where the effects and real filming blended.

re: #199 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What I was thinking about Castro doing with his cigar was ...
... well, never mind.

Leave Bill Clinton out of this. ;)

//

re: #183 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*scene fades*

*fading in*
Khruschev beating Obama over the head with his shoe ......

Try this one:

"Michelle get the girls outa here. I have to vote "Present" when the Soviet nukes hit...."

re: #185 doppelganglander

If I were interviewing her, I'd lose my job immediately because I couldn't help myself from saying, "You realize that's complete bullshit and no one believes you, right?"

Not if I owned a media outlet, and you worked for me.

re: #171 MandyManners

And, yrs. trly..

You still have the 5 inch stiletto's though, right?

re: #178 Mich-again

The Munchausen syndrome part of The Sixth Sense was chilling and kind of hard to watch. Whatever happened to M. Night Shyamalan? He used to make some pretty damn good movies.

re: #187 freetoken

I suppose I should have put a PG-13 warning label on that one?

Seriously, CG is not a problem... unless it is the main reason for a film these days. Which happens.

re: #187 freetoken

Invalid parameters?

Yeah, looks like CGI is over. Somebody rendered the invalid parameters.

re: #192 Dar ul Harb

Well, on the other hand you've got the Lord of the Rings trilogy, in which CGI was used to some its best potential in service of telling an epic story.

The CGI that I find sucks the most is where it's used in action movies to do stunts that the laws of physics and the plausible survival of stuntmen just wouldn't allow.

LOTR used it as a part of the story, not to have faceless hordes plink at each other, such as the Gungans or Clones fighting droids.

re: #164 pre-Boomer Marine brat

He's never read of what Khruschev did to JFK

I'm thinking he's never read any history unless the authors name was Zinn or Chompsky.

re: #200 garden18

Participation in Internet forums such as this is the perfect outlet for the baby boomer (been there done that) population. Baby boomers are too old to go out much anymore so they stay at home and, with the little creativity still left in their blood, contribute to Internet forums such as LGF. This is not a critique. It's just a fact.

"little creativity?" What are you, twelve? It's past your bedtime, kid.

re: #197 Gus 802

Like an "Indian burn" or a "noogie?"

//

Yeah thats the same thing, I also have visions of his ear being tugged, like Grandma used to do.

Honduras, so what happened?

/Hugo's drug running buddy was supposed to return and be restored to power today, or else

It's time for me to call it a night, so, ... I shall leave in heroic style!

Good night, all.

re: #208 Dar ul Harb

Works fine for me.

re: #186 alegrias

* * * * *
Congratulations on your success.

(I had a relative who carried Mao's Little Red Book around, how's that for embarassing?)

Coulda' been worse He or she could've joined Che.

re: #199 pre-Boomer Marine brat

What I was thinking about Castro doing with his cigar was ...
... well, never mind.

THis is PG-13 for crying out loud, Obama may see this.

re: #212 DEZes

Yeah thats the same thing, I also have visions of his ear being tugged, like Grandma used to do.

Or the full hand face slap. Remember those? That would be the pre-Bill Donohue America. ;)

re: #213 Killian Bundy

Or else what?

re: #210 jcm

I'm thinking he's never read any history unless the authors name was Zinn or Chompsky.

And what he had to pass tests on at Punahoe (good school) was probably reflexively flushed by the end of the summer.

re: #214 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It's time for me to call it a night, so, ... I shall leave in heroic style!

Good night, all.

*THUD*

pBMb you okay?

Talk to me!

TALK TO ME!

re: #204 David Simon

Not if I owned a media outlet, and you worked for me.

Thanks! Where do I submit my application?

re: #200 garden18

Participation in Internet forums such as this is the perfect outlet for the baby boomer (been there done that) population. Baby boomers are too old to go out much anymore so they stay at home and, with the little creativity still left in their blood, contribute to Internet forums such as LGF. This is not a critique. It's just a fact.

I still make music....not (c)rap....is that your idea of creative?

I couldn't load the link, but I can offer the opinion that the internet does not make people crazy, it just allows crazies to coordinate more; along with the rest of the twits.

re: #219 Macker

Or else what?

That's a good question.

/the whole world seemed to be threatening to do something

re: #210 jcm

I'm thinking he's never read any history unless the authors name was Zinn or Chompsky.

He--and, we-- would've been better off watching Mel Brooks' history movies.

re: #221 jcm

*THUD*

pBMb you okay?

Talk to me!

TALK TO ME!

*moan*
*crawling toward the DVD player*

Asperger's Syndrome.

This rarely diagnosed but often claimed disorder is a mild form of Autism that comes with what seems to be a biological inability to show empathy for other human beings, as well as (and maybe stemming from) an inability to recognize nonverbal cues. They continually do weird, upsetting things because they don't know it's upsetting you. That part of their brain is broken.

People cringe when they hear this term because they know that a large number of the teenagers claiming Asperger's are, in fact, merely dicks.

The Internet Troll exists because there's no real consequences to their actions. Sure they get blocked and called an asshole but there's no one that's going to tear them away from their computer and curb stomp them. Only the really obnoxious (or extremely drunk) would say such things in public to a person or persons that just might be the embodiment of the troll's demise. OK, these examples of retribution are on the extreme. Yes, I wouldn't be surprised that a few have been arrested for their behavior on the Internet. The army of anonymity is vast and acts like terrorist cells and lone wolfs. It's too bad that most Internet forms don't have higher standards of self policing. Which is why I come to LGF, Charles and Stinky run a tight ship.

re: #139 Jimmah

Yep , just look at the comments on youtube, for example. I think that's like the final state of entropy that unmoderated forums reach.

I have a theory that youtube is a pit because of the medium. It's all video, so even the basic literacy required by every other site on the net isn't needed.

re: #221 jcm

*THUD*

pBMb you okay?

Talk to me!

TALK TO ME!

Give him mouth-to-snout reruffication ! Stat !

Good night, folks!

re: #211 doppelganglander

"little creativity?" What are you, twelve? It's past your bedtime, kid.

to old to go out?...hahaha...follow me on one of my road trips!

re: #221 jcm

*THUD*

pBMb you okay?

Talk to me!

TALK TO ME!

While he out cold, lets pluck his eye lashes.

re: #205 DEZes

You still have the 5 inch stiletto's though, right?

*blush*

Smoke Bomb Smoke Rings - 4th of July Cool Science Experiment

Really Cool!

re: #200 garden18

Participation in Internet forums such as this is the perfect outlet for the baby boomer (been there done that) population. Baby boomers are too old to go out much anymore so they stay at home and, with the little creativity still left in their blood, contribute to Internet forums such as LGF. This is not a critique. It's just a fact.

Really. And what are your facts on this. You have some links, some study, some research, or are you just blowing shit out you're ass.

I'm just politely asking.

Man, this is a tough crowd.

Evening all.
There's nothing wrong with me
(slap)
with me
(slap)
with me......

re: #192 Dar ul Harb

Well, on the other hand you've got the Lord of the Rings trilogy, in which CGI was used to some its best potential in service of telling an epic story.

I always thought lotr was a bit 'stagey' looking - like a very expensive theatre production. But the cgi elements were excellent - especially gollum.

The CGI that I find sucks the most is where it's used in action movies to do stunts that the laws of physics and the plausible survival of stuntmen just wouldn't allow.

Yes, we know what human beings can and can't do. There's no point going too far outside that, or the viewer just thinks "Yeah....sure".

re: #233 DEZes

While he out cold, lets pluck his eye lashes.

...and pull out the Sharpie!

//That's a magic marker.

//Just in case.

re: #198 albusteve

have you tried blunt instruments yet?....
jus kidding...I am very pessimistic after this last election...shocked you might say...we are truly dancing with the devil imo

* * * *
Yesterday I attended the swearing in of two (2) GOP city council members in a highly diverse, all democrat town of Alexandria, VA.

Dems tried to disqualify the black female GOP candidate's win! But we prevailed.

We gotta start somewhere, making electoral headway into the headwinds to prepare the groundwork for November 2009's governor races, then big Congressional change in 2010. We gotta keep hope alive because many staunch democrats are beginning to notice the President's promises aren't working as promised.

Stay reasonable, stay positive, change minds!

re: #200 garden18

Participation in Internet forums such as this is the perfect outlet for the baby boomer (been there done that) population. Baby boomers are too old to go out much anymore so they stay at home and, with the little creativity still left in their blood, contribute to Internet forums such as LGF. This is not a critique. It's just a fact.

Yeah, I pine for the more meaningful days when I dropped wads of cash in bars and tony restaurants.

Obama:

I grew up on (Michael Jackson's) music. I still have all his songs on my IPOD.

re: #200 garden18

Participation in Internet forums such as this is the perfect outlet for the baby boomer (been there done that) population. Baby boomers are too old to go out much anymore so they stay at home and, with the little creativity still left in their blood, contribute to Internet forums such as LGF. This is not a critique. It's just a fact.

Oh, kindly repair thyself to ye olde rope and take a freakin' whiz up it.

I'm not a boner nor are many of us.

re: #243 Jim in Virginia

Obama:

No shit?

re: #242 David Simon

Yeah, I pine for the more meaningful days when I dropped wads of cash in bars and tony restaurants.

You ate at Tony's, too? I loved the place.

re: #240 Gus 802

...and pull out the Sharpie!

//That's a magic marker.

//Just in case.

Get the eyebrows too, and iron fist can do a tattoo, after we shave his head.

re: #229 iceweasel

I have a theory that youtube is a pit because of the medium. It's all video, so even the basic literacy required by every other site on the net isn't needed.

I use it all the time...literacy has nothing to do with it for me...it's a hell of a stash

re: #227 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*moan*
*crawling toward the DVD player*

Night!

re: #245 MandyManners

No shit?

And the whip?

re: #200 garden18

Participation in Internet forums such as this is the perfect outlet for the baby boomer (been there done that) population. Baby boomers are too old to go out much anymore so they stay at home and, with the little creativity still left in their blood, contribute to Internet forums such as LGF. This is not a critique. It's just a fact.

* * * *
Many of us also have active social lives, and political lives, and personal lives, and contribute in many REAL, physical ways to our communities.

re: #214 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It's time for me to call it a night, so, ... I shall leave in heroic style!

Good night, all.

Sleep well pBMb.

re: #236 Walter L. Newton

Really. And what are your facts on this. You have some links, some study, some research, or are you just blowing shit out you're ass.

I'm just politely asking.

He's a teenager. He knows everything. It's going to be a terrible shock when his baby boomer parents cut off his allowance.

re: #241 alegrias

* * * *
Yesterday I attended the swearing in of two (2) GOP city council members in a highly diverse, all democrat town of Alexandria, VA.

Dems tried to disqualify the black female GOP candidate's win! But we prevailed.

We gotta start somewhere, making electoral headway into the headwinds to prepare the groundwork for November 2009's governor races, then big Congressional change in 2010. We gotta keep hope alive because many staunch democrats are beginning to notice the President's promises aren't working as promised.

Stay reasonable, stay positive, change minds!

I followed that gig...and I'm impressed, good job

re: #233 DEZes

While he out cold, lets pluck his eye lashes.

I've got blue paint.

re: #243 Jim in Virginia

Obama: