6 New Personality Disorders Caused by the Internet
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:03:28pm |
So how many of these do various stalkers show?
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:04:40pm |
Some people were cuckoo long before the internet was widely available...
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Syrah Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:05:01pm |
Anonymity can be dangerous.
It destroys the weak of spirit.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:05:47pm |
re: #1 Kosh's Shadow
So how many of these do various stalkers show?
Let's see - a particularly savage guy seems to have definitely had 6 and 4, and maybe 5.
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pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:06:14pm |
re: #3 Syrah
Anonymity can be dangerous.
It destroys the weak of spirit.
...and emboldens the bullies.
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Sharmuta Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:06:21pm |
Some of the people described in the article sound a lot like former lizards.
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alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:06:34pm |
Dear Charles,
Thank you for your patience dealing with everyone's issues & disorders. You are a secular saint!
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:08:39pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:08:47pm |
Being called away.
Have a great evening all!
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Gella Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:09:16pm |
so, does it mean some will get disability based on them?
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Syrah Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:09:27pm |
re: #5 pink freud
...and emboldens the bullies.
It allows a person to let their inner id run wild. With anonymity, there is no consequence. With out consequence, there is nothing between us and the animal within.
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Lincolntf Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:09:49pm |
That aide to McDermott needs some serious help.
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_RememberTonyC Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:10:04pm |
obama's new health care plan won't cover any of these afflictions.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:10:24pm |
"no reply to the perfect post"....
new comments
new comments
new comments....ahahaha!
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:11:17pm |
re: #18 _RememberTonyC
obama's new health care plan won't cover any of these afflictions.
We are all DOOMED.
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96RoadKing Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:11:45pm |
re: #18 _RememberTonyC
obama's new health care plan won't cover any of these afflictions.
But they'll give you a pill to ease your pain...
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:12:30pm |
re: #18 _RememberTonyC
obama's new health care plan won't cover any of these afflictions.
but if you have one and are not insured you will be fined...1000$
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:12:48pm |
re: #14 Syrah
It allows a person to let their inner id run wild. With anonymity, there is no consequence. With out consequence, there is nothing between us and the animal within.
We'd better not let these people near the Krell machine.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:12:55pm |
My favorite: The Guy Who Everyone Hates but Who Never Leaves
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:13:09pm |
re: #18 _RememberTonyC
obama's new health care plan won't cover any of these afflictions.
Or many others, either.
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NelsFree Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:13:34pm |
One obvious way to reduce the inflammatory nature of posts would be to have more realistic avatars that could change expression on demand for offensive posts. Personally, I'd like a collection of pictures of the more attractive women on this blog. Hey, wouldn't ALL us guys like that! You know, reduce anonymity, kindle romance- er, I mean compare notes about the Kindle.
/heh.
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irongrampa Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:13:37pm |
It occurs that the anonimity of the Internet is the greatest testosterone enhancer yet devised.
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The Other Les Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:13:49pm |
I actually prefer to discuss certain issues online than in person, like politics.
Usually when I discuss political issues face to face with someone else, someone usually ends up screaming.
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pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:13:53pm |
It's become a status symbol to have a psych diagnosis these days. Normal and sane seem to be out of fashion.
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Gella Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:14:04pm |
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:14:19pm |
re: #6 Sharmuta
Some of the people described in the article sound a lot like former lizards.
Yeah, all too much so.
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_RememberTonyC Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:14:27pm |
re: #22 96RoadKing
But they'll give you a pill to ease your pain...
or euthanize you, if you're a troublemaker who doesn't die on schedule.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:14:48pm |
re: #31 pink freud
It's become a status symbol to have a psych diagnosis these days. Normal and sane seem to be out of fashion.
Just look at our role models - "celebrities", politicians, and sports stars who all act like cranky 2-year-olds.
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BignJames Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:15:42pm |
Online Intermittent Explosive Disorder.....flouncing?
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:17:00pm |
re: #28 NelsFree
One obvious way to reduce the inflammatory nature of posts would be to have more realistic avatars that could change expression on demand for offensive posts. Personally, I'd like a collection of pictures of the more attractive women on this blog. Hey, wouldn't ALL us guys like that! You know, reduce anonymity, kindle romance- er, I mean compare notes about the Kindle.
/heh.
I just program my albusteve animatron to post while I go the the bar...he's not very sharp but neither is he very sensitive
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:17:08pm |
Online Intermittent Explosive Disorder (a.k.a. The Thin-Skinned Rage-o-holic)Like serial killers, these people seem pretty normal at first. For hours or even days, they'll carry on funny, charming conversations in a forum or comment section. But then something, anything, sets him off and he devolves into a tantrum that would make Christian Bale say, "Dude, calm down! Jesus."
Sounds sort of like a few people who used to comment here who are now commenting from a stalker blog.
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Ojoe Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:17:14pm |
Digital means finger. Which one?
Virtual means fake of course.
Newborn deer eaten with hot melted cheese: Fon-fon doo.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:17:26pm |
re: #32 Gella
Reminds me of Nodrog. I didn't mind him but when I got here everyone hated him. After he was banned he spent years blogging about his time here. Just a few months ago he made a final appeal to be let back in to lgf. He eventually gave up. I wonder what he's doing now.
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The Other Les Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:17:48pm |
re: #36 Kosh's Shadow
Just look at our role models - "celebrities", politicians, and sports stars who all act like cranky 2-year-olds.
And then there's Barbara Streisand.
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:18:07pm |
Well lizards- my acess to the web has been limited all week and will continue to be right up until the 4th of July weekend, so I'll take this opportunity to wish everyone a happy inedependece day!
/and a happy belated Canada day to the north-of-the-border lizards
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:18:49pm |
re: #41 Killgore Trout
Reminds me of Nodrog. I didn't mind him but when I got here everyone hated him. After he was banned he spent years blogging about his time here. Just a few months ago he made a final appeal to be let back in to lgf. He eventually gave up. I wonder what he's doing now.
washing car windshields at the 7-11
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Gella Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:18:54pm |
re: #41 Killgore Trout
Reminds me of Nodrog. I didn't mind him but when I got here everyone hated him. After he was banned he spent years blogging about his time here. Just a few months ago he made a final appeal to be let back in to lgf. He eventually gave up. I wonder what he's doing now.
he finally found some other non-internet form of life?
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96RoadKing Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:19:01pm |
re: #35 _RememberTonyC
or euthanize you, if you're a troublemaker who doesn't die on schedule.
"We're here about your heart...you signed a donor card didn't you?"
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:19:32pm |
re: #18 _RememberTonyC
obama's new health care plan won't cover any of these afflictions.
But under 0bamacare, such crippling conditions like Voting Republican or Making Any Money will be cured...
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VegasRick Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:19:58pm |
re: #25 Killgore Trout
My favorite: The Guy Who Everyone Hates but Who Never Leaves
Yep!
*just kidding
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Sharmuta Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:20:48pm |
re: #41 Killgore Trout
I think he still does drive by snippings from time to time at various places.
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brookly red Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:21:15pm |
/so I can sue window's explorer & verizon dsl?
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Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:21:17pm |
The interwebs have not changed me much. No sir, not much at all at all.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:21:20pm |
re: #25 Killgore Trout
My favorite: The Guy Who Everyone Hates but Who Never Leaves
I don't hate you and I don't want you to leave.
Oooh, you're talking about avanti ?
Shame on you.
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Shoot, man , My favorite customer is a raging moonbat on some issues.
Doesn't mean he's not a nice guy. I'd help him out if he needed it, and I believe he'd do the same. I'm guilty of the "they" disease at times, but you're good people.
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:21:48pm |
Later Lizards. My congratulations to all of us on our independence. May we be able to keep it.
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alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:22:09pm |
OT
Planned Parenthood provides healthcare to Americans! Mammograms too.
(They just advertised on Hannity's show on Fox News)
(Why advertise when they get taxpayers' bailout money?)
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BignJames Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:22:32pm |
They left out the guy that takes a contrary position on nearly everything....just to annoy other posters.....or be a pain in the ass.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:23:05pm |
re: #53 Racer X
The interwebs have not changed me much. No sir, not much at all at all.
Some where a mother is saying. "what have I done?"
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irongrampa Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:23:09pm |
I wish to register again a long standing complaint about the absence of an addiction disclaimer pertaining to this blog. A matter of social conscience, I feel.
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VegasRick Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:23:20pm |
re: #57 BignJames
They left out the guy that takes a contrary position on nearly everything....just to annoy other posters.....or be a pain in the ass.
That's not true!
/
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:23:23pm |
re: #41 Killgore Trout
Reminds me of Nodrog. I didn't mind him but when I got here everyone hated him. After he was banned he spent years blogging about his time here. Just a few months ago he made a final appeal to be let back in to lgf. He eventually gave up. I wonder what he's doing now.
He bounces around to other blogs. The Nodrog has been spotted at several of our stalker blogs, including The Blogmocracy. He managed to get himself banned from AtS.
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_RememberTonyC Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:24:31pm |
re: #44 Fenway_Nation
Well lizards- my acess to the web has been limited all week and will continue to be right up until the 4th of July weekend, so I'll take this opportunity to wish everyone a happy inedependece day!
/and a happy belated Canada day to the north-of-the-border lizards
you too, Fens!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:24:47pm |
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BignJames Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:24:57pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:25:23pm |
re: #61 Honorary Yooper
He bounces around to other blogs. The Nodrog has been spotted at several of our stalker blogs, including The Blogmocracy. He managed to get himself banned from AtS.
stalking the stalker....
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mikalm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:25:35pm |
Great article. Funny, and very accurate.
Along with anonymity, the sheer speed and volume of communications on the Internet are part of why some people behave like jerks online. They get overwhelmed by the velocity and number of postings/emails, and don't have time to think them, or their own responses, out properly. So they shoot from the hip, and often end up sounding like unsocialized two-year-olds.
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VegasRick Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:26:10pm |
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:26:13pm |
re: #41 Killgore Trout
Reminds me of Nodrog. I didn't mind him but when I got here everyone hated him. After he was banned he spent years blogging about his time here. Just a few months ago he made a final appeal to be let back in to lgf.
He did? Oops. Missed that.
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NelsFree Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:26:38pm |
re: #38 albusteve
I just program my albusteve animatron to post while I go the the bar...he's not very sharp but neither is he very sensitive
Was this him at 2:10?
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chedgeman Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:26:53pm |
re: #24 Kosh's Shadow
OT
Kosh: strange coincidence that you point to Forbidden Planet. The wiki article says that JMS is writing a "reimagining" of the story.
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VegasRick Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:27:09pm |
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irongrampa Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:27:20pm |
re: #66 mikalm
Perhaps shoot from the lip would be an even betterdescription?
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:27:32pm |
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NelsFree Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:28:27pm |
re: #51 Sharmuta
I think he still does drive by snippings from time to time at various places.
We must take away his Scissors!
Does he do Topiary, too?
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VegasRick Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:29:14pm |
re: #74 NelsFree
We must take away his Scissors!
Does he do Topiary, too?
Maybe he'll put his eye out.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:29:22pm |
re: #69 NelsFree
I contract him out every so often...kids love him
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_RememberTonyC Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:29:22pm |
here's a good take on the Honduran coup and the "unusual" reactions to it.
[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:29:27pm |
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JPL17 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:30:51pm |
re: #57 BignJames
They left out the guy that takes a contrary position on nearly everything....just to annoy other posters.....or be a pain in the ass.
No they didn't.
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_RememberTonyC Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:32:08pm |
re: #51 Sharmuta
I think he still does drive by snippings from time to time at various places.
is he a mohel?
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:32:11pm |
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Digital Display Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:32:15pm |
re: #64 BignJames
I'm thinking the late Cog.
Cog had his chance....He was banned once but Charles let him back because he brought an edge to the room........Which was cool.Charles is a fair man..
upon reinstatement he was cool for awhile...Then he just had to be a dickhead to everybody....
After a while it was obvious that Cog was going the way of the dinosaurs...
You reading this Cog? Dumbass...Charles gave you an inch and you took a mile..Dumbass...Need a sock puppet reg?
For pretending to be so smart.Cog you are so dumb.....
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SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:33:04pm |
re: #59 irongrampa
I wish to register again a long standing complaint about the absence of an addiction disclaimer pertaining to this blog. A matter of social conscience, I feel.
Gees, it's 9:30 already !
Where'd the kid go ?
DAMN.
//
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Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:33:15pm |
re: #59 irongrampa
I wish to register again a long standing complaint about the absence of an addiction disclaimer pertaining to this blog. A matter of social conscience, I feel.
*stands*
*clears throat*
Hi! My name is Racer X, and I have been addicted to LGF for about three years.
*sits*
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:33:43pm |
re: #82 HoosierHoops
Cog had his chance....He was banned once but Charles let him back because he brought an edge to the room........Which was cool.Charles is a fair man..
upon reinstatement he was cool for awhile...Then he just had to be a dickhead to everybody....
After a while it was obvious that Cog was going the way of the dinosaurs...
You reading this Cog? Dumbass...Charles gave you an inch and you took a mile..Dumbass...Need a sock puppet reg?
For pretending to be so smart.Cog you are so dumb.....
Pretending has a way of losing to reality, does it not?
Sup hoopster?
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eon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:34:19pm |
re: #30 The Other Les
I actually prefer to discuss certain issues online than in person, like politics.
Usually when I discuss political issues face to face with someone else, someone usually ends up screaming.
I'm the same way. After a while, it gets a bit tiring, when someone you know;
1. Asks your opinion of a political/social issue;
2. You give it (politely);
3. They don't agree;
4. They "go nuclear" on you, refuse to listen to your reasoning, accuse you of various heinous crimes/beliefs/ etc., and finish up with "I thought you were an intelligent person!" (I.e., someone who had the same views they do.)
I finally realized that the reason this often happens when dealing with "progressives", at least, is that many such prefer a more "mystical" worldview (New Age, etc.), in which "feelings" are more important and "true" than Western, linear logic, which they regard as "cold", "unfeeling", etc. As such, when you present them with an argument based on factual reasoning, you and they are literally not "reasoning" in the same way. And to them, your method attacks the very foundations of their belief system and reality model. It is comparable to trying to explain the Copernican system of planetary motion to a Persian priest/astronomer of Xerxes' time, to whom those planete' in the sky are not solid bodies moving according to immutable physical laws, but gods traversing the heavens as they will, in patterns intended to convey their orders to mortals through the insight of the priest/astrologer. In short, you are committing apostasy, blasphemy, and few other juicy ecclesiastical crimes all at once.
Believe me- the Lizard Legion knows far more about my sociopolitical views than anyone except one or two people who know me "face to face", who have known me literally for decades.
cheers
eon
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mikalm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:34:30pm |
Gotta run some errands and get dinner. See ya laters, Lizards. And a happy long Independence Day weekend to my fellow Americans!
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irongrampa Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:34:30pm |
re: #82 HoosierHoops
Meant to say this in the other thread, but missed it--congrats on raising a fine son, sir. Please pass my sincere thanks to him from a vet, if you would.
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Truck Monkey Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:34:33pm |
re: #57 BignJames
They left out the guy that takes a contrary position on nearly everything....just to annoy other posters.....or be a pain in the ass.
No you didn't.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:34:36pm |
re: #82 HoosierHoops
Cog had his chance....He was banned once but Charles let him back because he brought an edge to the room........Which was cool.Charles is a fair man..
upon reinstatement he was cool for awhile...Then he just had to be a dickhead to everybody....
After a while it was obvious that Cog was going the way of the dinosaurs...
You reading this Cog? Dumbass...Charles gave you an inch and you took a mile..Dumbass...Need a sock puppet reg?
For pretending to be so smart.Cog you are so dumb.....
well ouch....
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Macker Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:34:54pm |
re: #84 Racer X
*stands*
*clears throat*
Hi! My name is Macker, and I have been addicted to LGF for five years years.
*sits*
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_RememberTonyC Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:36:21pm |
re: #91 Macker
*stands*
*clears throat*Hi! My name is Macker, and I have been addicted to LGF for five years years.
*sits*
Hi Macker ... have a drink and a laptop ...
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:36:23pm |
re: #68 Charles
Ya snooze, ya lose.
/Oh, well
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VegasRick Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:36:40pm |
re: #91 Macker
*stands*
*clears throat*Hi! My name is Macker, and I have been addicted to LGF for five years years.
*sits*
Macker, you do a great impression of Racer X.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:37:39pm |
re: #94 Killgore Trout
Ya snooze, ya lose.
/Oh, well
if he can't post here how do you know he made one last appeal?...I'm confused
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The Other Les Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:37:55pm |
re: #91 Macker
*stands*
*clears throat*Hi! My name is Macker, and I have been addicted to LGF for five years years.
*sits*
Hi Macker!
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Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:38:02pm |
Odd. I just viewed this, and now I have an uncontrollable urge to go buy The Catcher in the Rye.
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Aye Pod Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:38:39pm |
Funny article. Also enjoyed the linked page on how to deal with trolls: 5 Ways to Stop Trolls From Killing the Internet.
[Link: www.cracked.com...]
#4.
Start a Posse of Moderators, and Arm ThemRight now if you have a blog or forum or anything else with open comments, and you don't have a human moderator to watch it, you're going to wind up with a wasteland. As soon as more than one troll shows up, they will feed off each other until everyone else is gone. You have to control them. And don't start talking about free speech; the troll's goal is to shut down speech, to either fill the channel with noise until no one can talk to each other, or to get everyone talking about him instead of the subject at hand. He's a guy in a coffee shop screaming nonsense over a bullhorn.
Spot on!
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:38:45pm |
re: #84 Racer X
*stands*
*clears throat*
Hi! My name is DEZ, and I have been addicted to LGF for two years years, and have absolutely no intention of changing.
*walks out defiantly*
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Digital Display Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:39:07pm |
re: #88 irongrampa
Meant to say this in the other thread, but missed it--congrats on raising a fine son, sir. Please pass my sincere thanks to him from a vet, if you would.
You are very kind sir..... I am a very proud Marine Parent...
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:39:58pm |
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SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:40:11pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:41:04pm |
re: #101 HoosierHoops
You are very kind sir..... I am a very proud Marine Parent...
you should be...and I am a Marine's proud son
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:41:21pm |
*stands*
*clears throat*
Hi! My name is pre-Boomer Marine brat, and the second week I was here I made the perfect post ... AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR ONE OF YOU IDIOTS TO UP-DING IT!
/................... *ducks*
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:42:41pm |
re: #106 pre-Boomer Marine brat
*stands*
*clears throat*Hi! My name is pre-Boomer Marine brat, and the second week I was here I made the perfect post ... AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR ONE OF YOU IDIOTS TO UP-DING IT!
/................... *ducks*
I hope suspense is something you enjoy.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:42:58pm |
re: #106 pre-Boomer Marine brat
*stands*
*clears throat*Hi! My name is pre-Boomer Marine brat, and the second week I was here I made the perfect post ... AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR ONE OF YOU IDIOTS TO UP-DING IT!
/................... *ducks*
Link ?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:43:07pm |
(Seriously,)
Thanks for posting the link to this article, Charles!
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chedgeman Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:44:24pm |
re: #108 DEZes
I make the perfect toast occassionally but the only upding is my toaster.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:44:36pm |
re: #104 HoosierHoops
Yup..
he talked down to people...that's what pissed me off about him....otherwise I could care less
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:44:38pm |
re: #108 DEZes
I hope suspense is something you enjoy.
*CRUSHING KEYBOARD IN A DEATH GRIP*
*smiles*
Yes.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:45:05pm |
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The Left Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:45:17pm |
re: #99 Jimmah
Funny article. Also enjoyed the linked page on how to deal with trolls: 5 Ways to Stop Trolls From Killing the Internet.
[Link: www.cracked.com...]
Spot on!
That's completely true. Every unmoderated comment thread everywhere eventually gets turned into a wasteland. (If it doesn't, that's only because there aren't enough people reading it).
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David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:45:28pm |
John Bolton doing what he does best; telling it like it is:
Only those most theologically committed to negotiation still believe Iran will fully renounce its nuclear program. Unfortunately, the Obama administration has a "Plan B," which would allow Iran to have a "peaceful" civil nuclear power program while publicly "renouncing" the objective of nuclear weapons. Obama would define such an outcome as "success," even though in reality it would hardly be different from what Iran is doing and saying now. A "peaceful" uranium enrichment program, "peaceful" reactors such as Bushehr and "peaceful" heavy-water projects like that under construction at Arak leave Iran with an enormous breakout capability to produce nuclear weapons in very short order. And anyone who believes the Revolutionary Guard Corps will abandon its weaponization and ballistic missile programs probably believes that there was no fraud in Iran's June 12 election. See "huge credibility gap," supra.
In short, the stolen election and its tumultuous aftermath have dramatically highlighted the strategic and tactical flaws in Obama's game plan. With regime change off the table for the coming critical period in Iran's nuclear program, Israel's decision on using force is both easier and more urgent. Since there is no likelihood that diplomacy will start or finish in time, or even progress far enough to make any real difference, there is no point waiting for negotiations to play out. In fact, given the near certainty of Obama changing his definition of "success," negotiations represent an even more dangerous trap for Israel.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Mrs. Clinton and her boss insist we negotiate even though there's nothing we have to offer the mad mullahs that they want (save for Israel, of course). The clock is ticking, Bibi...
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:45:29pm |
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:45:39pm |
re: #51 Sharmuta
I think he still does drive by
snippingsflounces from time to time at various places.
FTFY
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:45:48pm |
re: #112 chedgeman
I make the perfect toast occassionally but the only upding is my toaster.
GOOD one!
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:46:10pm |
re: #116 iceweasel
That's completely true. Every unmoderated comment thread everywhere eventually gets turned into a wasteland. (If it doesn't, that's only because there aren't enough people reading it).
The spammers kill the trolls.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:47:33pm |
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Randall Gross Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:47:40pm |
So what is it called when your IQ is 167 and you are obsessed with testosterone?
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Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:47:52pm |
Good article on the problems with the movie industry:
I saw Transformers this weekend and after sitting through nearly two and a half hours of a movie that felt like watching somebody else playing a computer game I came out of the cinema feeling underwhelmed and flat.
What I mean by that is that there was no ‘wow' factor to the thing. By having so much going on and having such a movie spectacle it's like throwing everything you can do with CG on screen, with explosions, robots, more explosions, and the usual Michael Bay subtlety going on. The entire affair seemed clinical, personality free and really just quite dull, a fireworks display of pixels without the hotdog or jacket spud of entertainment or enjoyment..
In my opinion it seems that by bunging everything through a computer that cinema has shown the ‘man behind the curtain', that anything and everything has that digital tweak added to it. The spectacle has superseded the ‘magic' that is actual storytelling as the most important element to a film
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:47:55pm |
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SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:48:19pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:48:22pm |
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:48:35pm |
re: #126 pre-Boomer Marine brat
*sniff*
I will ignore that.
I will ignore that.
I will ignore that.
I will ignore that.
I will ignore that.
I will ignore that.
Come back here, fight like a man.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:48:54pm |
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:49:38pm |
re: #130 albusteve
now THAT'S what I'm talkin about...my kinda cat right there
Was that cool or what?
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brookly red Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:49:56pm |
re: #124 Thanos
So what is it called when your IQ is 167 and you are obsessed with testosterone?
/fronting?
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:50:03pm |
re: #124 Thanos
So what is it called when your IQ is 167 and you are obsessed with testosterone?
Fark.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:50:53pm |
re: #124 Thanos
So what is it called when your IQ is 167 and you are obsessed with testosterone?
hilarious really...that was one oddball poster
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Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:50:59pm |
Jeez, the first one, intermittent explosive disorder, sounds like Al Franken.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:51:05pm |
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SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:51:34pm |
re: #124 Thanos
So what is it called when your IQ is 167 and you are obsessed with testosterone?
Einsteinbrenner disease.
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Aye Pod Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:53:06pm |
re: #116 iceweasel
That's completely true. Every unmoderated comment thread everywhere eventually gets turned into a wasteland. (If it doesn't, that's only because there aren't enough people reading it).
Yep , just look at the comments on youtube, for example. I think that's like the final state of entropy that unmoderated forums reach.
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BignJames Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:53:29pm |
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eon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:54:16pm |
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Sergeant Major Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:57:01pm |
I thought liberalism (is that a word) was around long before the Internet. I know it's a personality disorder.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:57:07pm |
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Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:57:41pm |
That was a pretty cool blog post. The disorders Kimak listed reminded me of some posters here past and present. Thats alls I'm sayin.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:57:47pm |
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shiplord kirel Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:58:20pm |
"Munchausen by Internet (a.k.a. The Sob Story Teller)"
Hmmmmphhhh! At this point, I should probably reiterate that my dog really did die a while back and that Judas and Jezebel (aka Jabba the Slutt) really are my brother and ex-wife respectively. Even so, I have no serious health problems, both of my daughters are beautiful and (perhaps more importantly) self-supporting, and my grandchildren are the greatest treasure in the known universe. It does annoy me that I am losing my hair and getting a lot of wrinkles but since I am now 60 (holy shit!) years of age, I probably don't have much cause for complaint.
Actually I can do anything I could do when I was 20, er, just not as often; or as long; or with quite the same results.
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Aye Pod Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:58:37pm |
re: #125 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
The problem with many movies today is shit writing. It's not that the cgi is 'too good' - actually, I think it still has a long way to go before it gets really good - it's just that it's not being used wisely, and that it's being used to pad out predictable, empty stories.
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Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:58:49pm |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:59:31pm |
I watched this Tom Waits dvd tonight:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
It was pretty good, but there was one narrator who was talking about Waits' anti-Iraq war songs and he said something like, "We're living in a time that is remarkably close to fascism."
What a douche!
If there was anything like fascism in this country, that guy would be dead or in a camp.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:59:32pm |
Obama to tell Putin: Time to move past Cold War
WASHINGTON – Days from his first Moscow summit, President Barack Obama declared Thursday that former Russian President Vladimir Putin "still has a lot of sway" in his nation and needs an in-person reminder the Cold War is over.
Oh, Puh-leeeaaaase. This coming from a guy with a "please take my lunch money" sign stuck on his back.
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Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:59:33pm |
re: #108 DEZes
I hope suspense is something you enjoy.
Good thing suspense doesn't kill so I've heard.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 6:59:46pm |
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shiplord kirel Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:00:14pm |
"They" say 60 is the new 40. It must have really sucked to be 40 in the old days.
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irongrampa Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:00:15pm |
re: #149 shiplord kirel
Look at it as I do--as the song goes, "I aint as good as I once was, but I'm as good ONCE as I ever was".
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:00:26pm |
re: #149 shiplord kirel
"Munchausen by Internet (a.k.a. The Sob Story Teller)"
Hmmmmphhhh! At this point, I should probably reiterate that my dog really did die a while back and that Judas and Jezebel (aka Jabba the Slutt) really are my brother and ex-wife respectively. Even so, I have no serious health problems, both of my daughters are beautiful and (perhaps more importantly) self-supporting, and my grandchildren are the greatest treasure in the known universe. It does annoy me that I am losing my hair and getting a lot of wrinkles but since I am now 60 (holy shit!) years of age, I probably don't have much cause for complaint.
Actually I can do anything I could do when I was 20, er, just not as often; or as long; or with quite the same results.
a little more rock and roll will peel some of those years back amigo
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:00:34pm |
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:00:44pm |
re: #155 pre-Boomer Marine brat
BTW, DEZ, that was supposed to be a "Thank you" in that perfect post of mine.
/awshit!
I read it three times before that sank in, any how, your welcome and I meant it.
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Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:01:52pm |
re: #150 Jimmah
The problem with many movies today is shit writing. It's not that the cgi is 'too good' - actually, I think it still has a long way to go before it gets really good - it's just that it's not being used wisely, and that it's being used to pad out predictable, empty stories.
Thats the point of the article. CGI really doesn't have impression or impact anymore, but it keeps getting thrown up for the "WOW, LOOK AT THIS!" reaction instead of working on an actual script, plot or acting.
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alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:02:22pm |
re: #145 Sergeant Major
I thought liberalism (is that a word) was around long before the Internet. I know it's a personality disorder.
* ** *
Hey hey hey,
Liberalism is a learned belief system that can be unlearned.
Witness the many Marxists who deprogrammed themselves: Jeane Kilpatrick, Ronald Reagan's ambassador to the UN, for example.
Entire former Soviet Bloc countries have deprogrammed themselves from their Marxist doctrine.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:02:33pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:02:48pm |
re: #153 SasquatchOnSteroids
Obama to tell Putin: Time to move past Cold War
Oh, Puh-leeeaaaase. This coming from a guy with a "please take my lunch money" sign stuck on his back.
He's never read of what Khruschev did to JFK
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eon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:03:04pm |
Well, I have to hit the sack, while I'm still awake enough to say....
Good Night, Lizards.
Sleep tight.
cheers
eon
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:03:35pm |
re: #162 alegrias
* ** *
Hey hey hey,Liberalism is a learned belief system that can be unlearned.
Witness the many Marxists who deprogrammed themselves: Jeane Kilpatrick, Ronald Reagan's ambassador to the UN, for example.
Entire former Soviet Bloc countries have deprogrammed themselves from their Marxist doctrine.
I hope you're right...otherwise we are fucked
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Bobblehead Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:03:38pm |
"Munchausen by Internet"
Bwha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha........
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Dar ul Harb Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:04:08pm |
re: #125 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Several big cases in point are certain George Lucas projects of recent years, including Indiana Jones and the Kurse of CGI.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:04:14pm |
re: #112 chedgeman
I make the perfect toast occassionally but the only upding is my toaster.
Your a young Lizard.
Welcome to LGF, cheers to you.
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Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:04:31pm |
re: #124 Thanos
So what is it called when your IQ is 167 and you are obsessed with testosterone?
F*cking genious?
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:04:57pm |
re: #162 alegrias
* ** *
Hey hey hey,Liberalism is a learned belief system that can be unlearned.
Witness the many Marxists who deprogrammed themselves: Jeane Kilpatrick, Ronald Reagan's ambassador to the UN, for example.
Entire former Soviet Bloc countries have deprogrammed themselves from their Marxist doctrine.
And, yrs. trly..
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:19pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:20pm |
re: #164 pre-Boomer Marine brat
He's never read of what Khruschev did to JFK
why do that?...he's the One...supremely confident despite history, reality and Batman comics
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:23pm |
re: #164 pre-Boomer Marine brat
He's never read of what Khruschev did to JFK
Hypothetical.
A President Obama during "the Cuban Missile Crisis":
"Cuba is a sovereign nation. However, it is my intention to meet with both Castro and Kruschev, without pre-conditions."
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Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:38pm |
Oh man, who does this remind you of?
Someone with the need for self-abasement feels that they should be perpetually punished for their wrongdoings. They're like the albino that whipped himself in The Da Vinci Code, only instead of drawing blood they draw "Fuck you noobtard" comments. It's either a subconscious way to feel like they're paying back the world for their sins, or they're just so out of self-esteem that they can't muster the energy to defend themselves.
If taken to an extreme, it can even turn into Online Erotic Humiliation where the abuse turns into sexual arousal. So the next time you tell someone to go fuck themselves, you might have just given them the material to do so.
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David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:40pm |
Worried about today's unemployment figures and those foreclosure signs in your neighborhood? Relax. Obama's tax cheating, affirmative action appointee helpfully explains:
“Not all the recovery money has been put to work yet,” said the labor secretary, Hilda L. Solis. “We’re making progress.”
But Ms. Solis acknowledged that joblessness was already much worse than the administration projected in January when it created its stimulus spending bill, suggesting then that joblessness would peak at about 8 percent.
Asked why the unemployment rate is already much higher, Ms. Solis noted that much of the stimulus money was moving slowly, with construction projects in particular requiring time-consuming government permits.
“Over all, it’s been a challenge,” Ms. Solis said. “We still have a ways to go.”
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:05:58pm |
re: #169 DEZes
Your a young Lizard.
Welcome to LGF, cheers to you.
Looks promising for having a valuable addition to the pun club there.
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Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:06:23pm |
I have worked with engineers who I eventually diagnosed with some form of Munchausen syndrome. It seemed automation or equipment was always broke down in their areas and they were always fixing it. Then they got to complain about how crappy the equipment was and how they had to patch it all together. Other people would work the same area on other shifts and it would run fine for them.
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alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:07:09pm |
re: #166 albusteve
I hope you're right...otherwise we are fucked
* * * *
Albusteve,
My immediate concern is reversing the prospects of the folks trying to program our country to BE Marxist lite, redistributionist, class warfare based as President Obama clearly intends to do.
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Sergeant Major Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:07:15pm |
re: #162 alegrias
True ,true, but now I hear that it's only treated with large amounts of prescription medication and frontal lobotomies
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:07:35pm |
re: #177 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Looks promising for having a valuable addition to the pun club there.
That is a good thing.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:07:46pm |
re: #174 Gus 802
Hypothetical.
A President Obama during "the Cuban Missile Crisis":
"Cuba is a sovereign nation. However, it is my intention to meet with both Castro and Kruschev, without pre-conditions."
*scene fades*
*fading in*
Khruschev beating Obama over the head with his shoe ......
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ShanghaiEd Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:07:53pm |
re: #86 eon
I finally realized that the reason this often happens when dealing with "progressives", at least, is that many such prefer a more "mystical" worldview (New Age, etc.), in which "feelings" are more important and "true" than Western, linear logic, which they regard as "cold", "unfeeling", etc. As such, when you present them with an argument based on factual reasoning, you and they are literally not "reasoning" in the same way. And to them, your method attacks the very foundations of their belief system and reality model. It is comparable to trying to explain the Copernican system of planetary motion to a Persian priest/astronomer of Xerxes' time, to whom those planete' in the sky are not solid bodies moving according to immutable physical laws, but gods traversing the heavens as they will, in patterns intended to convey their orders to mortals through the insight of the priest/astrologer. In short, you are committing apostasy, blasphemy, and few other juicy ecclesiastical crimes all at once.
eon, I think your description of that feeling-based mindset is very accurate, but I question labeling it simply as "New Age" or "progressive."
In fact, it seems almost identical to the experiences we have here when trying to reason with extreme advocates of Intelligent Design, Nirtherism, anti-Vax, and any number of other causes. No amount of factual references seem to work, and the exchange ends in a burst of emotion and name-calling.
I often talk to people who seem to measure one's patriotism or conservatism by how emotional he/she feels about it, so that the mere quoting of facts, in itself, proves you're not a "good" person, in their view. I do think this emotionally based reality model completely straddles the political spectrum.
Anybody disagree?
How can you be so cold and unfeeling?
(Tag a "/" to that last sentence, of course...)
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:07:59pm |
re: #176 David Simon
Worried about today's unemployment figures and those foreclosure signs in your neighborhood? Relax. Obama's tax cheating, affirmative action appointee helpfully explains:
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
If I were interviewing her, I'd lose my job immediately because I couldn't help myself from saying, "You realize that's complete bullshit and no one believes you, right?"
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alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:08:23pm |
re: #171 MandyManners
And, yrs. trly..
* * * * *
Congratulations on your success.
(I had a relative who carried Mao's Little Red Book around, how's that for embarassing?)
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freetoken Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:08:30pm |
re: #125 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Has CG had its day? Hah! As proof, I'll repost a new trailer I put up the other night:
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:08:48pm |
re: #183 pre-Boomer Marine brat
*scene fades*
*fading in*
Khruschev beating Obama over the head with his shoe ......
"Afterwards, Obama was said to have appreciated the intense debate."
//
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Aye Pod Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:09:02pm |
Munchausen by Internet (a.k.a. The Sob Story Teller)
That one reminded me of someone who used to post on Morocco.com, Egypt.com and Turkey.com, under a variety of sockpuppets (nics like fatima, maryam etc). She'd introduce herself as a nice, slightly vulnerable person seeking help with some family/health/ romantic etc problem. Everyone would try to help her, but after a while the discussion would always start to turn nasty, with the girl taking offence at some rather harmless piece of advice that she had been given, and then giving that person, and anyone else who tried to arbitrate in the matter a hard time, before finally letting rip with all kinds of abuse and threats etc.
I must admit, it did become funny watching those communities falling for the same act several times.
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Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:09:06pm |
re: #168 Dar ul Harb
Several big cases in point are certain George Lucas projects of recent years, including Indiana Jones and the Kurse of CGI.
Yup. Effects are supposed augment and support the story, not supposed to cover for the lack of one.
**cough POD RACE cough cough**
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:09:23pm |
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Dar ul Harb Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:09:44pm |
re: #150 Jimmah
The problem with many movies today is shit writing. It's not that the cgi is 'too good' - actually, I think it still has a long way to go before it gets really good - it's just that it's not being used wisely, and that it's being used to pad out predictable, empty stories.
Well, on the other hand you've got the Lord of the Rings trilogy, in which CGI was used to some its best potential in service of telling an epic story.
The CGI that I find sucks the most is where it's used in action movies to do stunts that the laws of physics and the plausible survival of stuntmen just wouldn't allow.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:09:54pm |
re: #183 pre-Boomer Marine brat
*scene fades*
*fading in*
Khruschev beating Obama over the head with his shoe ......
Why was I thinking Indian rub.
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:10:04pm |
re: #178 Mich-again
I have worked with engineers who I eventually diagnosed with some form of Munchausen syndrome. It seemed automation or equipment was always broke down in their areas and they were always fixing it. Then they got to complain about how crappy the equipment was and how they had to patch it all together. Other people would work the same area on other shifts and it would run fine for them.
That is fascinating. At least they're not killing people like the firefighter/arsonists and nurses who cause patients to code so they can save them.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:10:06pm |
re: #172 doppelganglander
The interesting thing about the Union Carbide disaster is the same thing happened here, I think in West Virginia. But because of the weather conditions (I can't remember the details) the cloud of toxic chemicals either floated off or dissipated and nobody was hurt.
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Macker Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:10:33pm |
re: #153 SasquatchOnSteroids
Obama to tell Putin: Time to move past Cold War
Oh, Puh-leeeaaaase. This coming from a guy with a "please take my lunch money" sign stuck on his back.
Here I thought it meant something else entirely....
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:10:43pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:10:56pm |
re: #180 alegrias
* * * *
Albusteve,My immediate concern is reversing the prospects of the folks trying to program our country to BE Marxist lite, redistributionist, class warfare based as President Obama clearly intends to do.
have you tried blunt instruments yet?....
jus kidding...I am very pessimistic after this last election...shocked you might say...we are truly dancing with the devil imo
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:11:09pm |
re: #193 DEZes
Why was I thinking Indian rub.
What I was thinking about Castro doing with his cigar was ...
... well, never mind.
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garden18 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:11:26pm |
Participation in Internet forums such as this is the perfect outlet for the baby boomer (been there done that) population. Baby boomers are too old to go out much anymore so they stay at home and, with the little creativity still left in their blood, contribute to Internet forums such as LGF. This is not a critique. It's just a fact.
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jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:11:29pm |
re: #161 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Thats the point of the article. CGI really doesn't have impression or impact anymore, but it keeps getting thrown up for the "WOW, LOOK AT THIS!" reaction instead of working on an actual script, plot or acting.
2003.
Master and Commander vs. Star Wars EPIII Revenge of the Sith for best special effects
IMHO Master and Commander had much better effects because you couldn't really tell where the effects and real filming blended.
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:11:39pm |
re: #199 pre-Boomer Marine brat
What I was thinking about Castro doing with his cigar was ...
... well, never mind.
Leave Bill Clinton out of this. ;)
//
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Macker Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:11:40pm |
re: #183 pre-Boomer Marine brat
*scene fades*
*fading in*
Khruschev beating Obama over the head with his shoe ......
Try this one:
"Michelle get the girls outa here. I have to vote "Present" when the Soviet nukes hit...."
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David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:11:49pm |
re: #185 doppelganglander
If I were interviewing her, I'd lose my job immediately because I couldn't help myself from saying, "You realize that's complete bullshit and no one believes you, right?"
Not if I owned a media outlet, and you worked for me.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:11:55pm |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:12:16pm |
re: #178 Mich-again
The Munchausen syndrome part of The Sixth Sense was chilling and kind of hard to watch. Whatever happened to M. Night Shyamalan? He used to make some pretty damn good movies.
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freetoken Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:12:31pm |
re: #187 freetoken
I suppose I should have put a PG-13 warning label on that one?
Seriously, CG is not a problem... unless it is the main reason for a film these days. Which happens.
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Dar ul Harb Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:12:33pm |
re: #187 freetoken
Invalid parameters?
Yeah, looks like CGI is over. Somebody rendered the invalid parameters.
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Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:12:55pm |
re: #192 Dar ul Harb
Well, on the other hand you've got the Lord of the Rings trilogy, in which CGI was used to some its best potential in service of telling an epic story.
The CGI that I find sucks the most is where it's used in action movies to do stunts that the laws of physics and the plausible survival of stuntmen just wouldn't allow.
LOTR used it as a part of the story, not to have faceless hordes plink at each other, such as the Gungans or Clones fighting droids.
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jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:12:58pm |
re: #164 pre-Boomer Marine brat
He's never read of what Khruschev did to JFK
I'm thinking he's never read any history unless the authors name was Zinn or Chompsky.
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:13:24pm |
re: #200 garden18
Participation in Internet forums such as this is the perfect outlet for the baby boomer (been there done that) population. Baby boomers are too old to go out much anymore so they stay at home and, with the little creativity still left in their blood, contribute to Internet forums such as LGF. This is not a critique. It's just a fact.
"little creativity?" What are you, twelve? It's past your bedtime, kid.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:13:26pm |
re: #197 Gus 802
Like an "Indian burn" or a "noogie?"
//
Yeah thats the same thing, I also have visions of his ear being tugged, like Grandma used to do.
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:13:51pm |
Honduras, so what happened?
/Hugo's drug running buddy was supposed to return and be restored to power today, or else
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:13:51pm |
It's time for me to call it a night, so, ... I shall leave in heroic style!
Good night, all.
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:14:17pm |
re: #186 alegrias
* * * * *
Congratulations on your success.(I had a relative who carried Mao's Little Red Book around, how's that for embarassing?)
Coulda' been worse He or she could've joined Che.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:14:18pm |
re: #199 pre-Boomer Marine brat
What I was thinking about Castro doing with his cigar was ...
... well, never mind.
THis is PG-13 for crying out loud, Obama may see this.
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:14:36pm |
re: #212 DEZes
Yeah thats the same thing, I also have visions of his ear being tugged, like Grandma used to do.
Or the full hand face slap. Remember those? That would be the pre-Bill Donohue America. ;)
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:14:58pm |
re: #210 jcm
I'm thinking he's never read any history unless the authors name was Zinn or Chompsky.
And what he had to pass tests on at Punahoe (good school) was probably reflexively flushed by the end of the summer.
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jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:15:02pm |
re: #214 pre-Boomer Marine brat
It's time for me to call it a night, so, ... I shall leave in heroic style!
Good night, all.
*THUD*
pBMb you okay?
Talk to me!
TALK TO ME!
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:15:11pm |
re: #204 David Simon
Not if I owned a media outlet, and you worked for me.
Thanks! Where do I submit my application?
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BignJames Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:15:34pm |
re: #200 garden18
Participation in Internet forums such as this is the perfect outlet for the baby boomer (been there done that) population. Baby boomers are too old to go out much anymore so they stay at home and, with the little creativity still left in their blood, contribute to Internet forums such as LGF. This is not a critique. It's just a fact.
I still make music....not (c)rap....is that your idea of creative?
| 224 |
Achilles Tang Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:15:38pm |
I couldn't load the link, but I can offer the opinion that the internet does not make people crazy, it just allows crazies to coordinate more; along with the rest of the twits.
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:15:44pm |
re: #219 Macker
Or else what?
That's a good question.
/the whole world seemed to be threatening to do something
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:15:46pm |
re: #210 jcm
I'm thinking he's never read any history unless the authors name was Zinn or Chompsky.
He--and, we-- would've been better off watching Mel Brooks' history movies.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:16:02pm |
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Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:16:16pm |
Asperger's Syndrome.This rarely diagnosed but often claimed disorder is a mild form of Autism that comes with what seems to be a biological inability to show empathy for other human beings, as well as (and maybe stemming from) an inability to recognize nonverbal cues. They continually do weird, upsetting things because they don't know it's upsetting you. That part of their brain is broken.
People cringe when they hear this term because they know that a large number of the teenagers claiming Asperger's are, in fact, merely dicks.
The Internet Troll exists because there's no real consequences to their actions. Sure they get blocked and called an asshole but there's no one that's going to tear them away from their computer and curb stomp them. Only the really obnoxious (or extremely drunk) would say such things in public to a person or persons that just might be the embodiment of the troll's demise. OK, these examples of retribution are on the extreme. Yes, I wouldn't be surprised that a few have been arrested for their behavior on the Internet. The army of anonymity is vast and acts like terrorist cells and lone wolfs. It's too bad that most Internet forms don't have higher standards of self policing. Which is why I come to LGF, Charles and Stinky run a tight ship.
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The Left Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:16:24pm |
re: #139 Jimmah
Yep , just look at the comments on youtube, for example. I think that's like the final state of entropy that unmoderated forums reach.
I have a theory that youtube is a pit because of the medium. It's all video, so even the basic literacy required by every other site on the net isn't needed.
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SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:16:32pm |
re: #221 jcm
*THUD*
pBMb you okay?
Talk to me!
TALK TO ME!
Give him mouth-to-snout reruffication ! Stat !
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:16:36pm |
re: #211 doppelganglander
"little creativity?" What are you, twelve? It's past your bedtime, kid.
to old to go out?...hahaha...follow me on one of my road trips!
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:16:40pm |
re: #221 jcm
*THUD*
pBMb you okay?
Talk to me!
TALK TO ME!
While he out cold, lets pluck his eye lashes.
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:16:40pm |
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Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:16:46pm |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:17:20pm |
re: #200 garden18
Participation in Internet forums such as this is the perfect outlet for the baby boomer (been there done that) population. Baby boomers are too old to go out much anymore so they stay at home and, with the little creativity still left in their blood, contribute to Internet forums such as LGF. This is not a critique. It's just a fact.
Really. And what are your facts on this. You have some links, some study, some research, or are you just blowing shit out you're ass.
I'm just politely asking.
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Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:17:48pm |
Evening all.
There's nothing wrong with me
(slap)
with me
(slap)
with me......
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Aye Pod Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:18:00pm |
re: #192 Dar ul Harb
Well, on the other hand you've got the Lord of the Rings trilogy, in which CGI was used to some its best potential in service of telling an epic story.
I always thought lotr was a bit 'stagey' looking - like a very expensive theatre production. But the cgi elements were excellent - especially gollum.
The CGI that I find sucks the most is where it's used in action movies to do stunts that the laws of physics and the plausible survival of stuntmen just wouldn't allow.
Yes, we know what human beings can and can't do. There's no point going too far outside that, or the viewer just thinks "Yeah....sure".
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:18:23pm |
re: #233 DEZes
While he out cold, lets pluck his eye lashes.
...and pull out the Sharpie!
//That's a magic marker.
//Just in case.
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alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:18:30pm |
re: #198 albusteve
have you tried blunt instruments yet?....
jus kidding...I am very pessimistic after this last election...shocked you might say...we are truly dancing with the devil imo
* * * *
Yesterday I attended the swearing in of two (2) GOP city council members in a highly diverse, all democrat town of Alexandria, VA.
Dems tried to disqualify the black female GOP candidate's win! But we prevailed.
We gotta start somewhere, making electoral headway into the headwinds to prepare the groundwork for November 2009's governor races, then big Congressional change in 2010. We gotta keep hope alive because many staunch democrats are beginning to notice the President's promises aren't working as promised.
Stay reasonable, stay positive, change minds!
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David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:18:42pm |
re: #200 garden18
Participation in Internet forums such as this is the perfect outlet for the baby boomer (been there done that) population. Baby boomers are too old to go out much anymore so they stay at home and, with the little creativity still left in their blood, contribute to Internet forums such as LGF. This is not a critique. It's just a fact.
Yeah, I pine for the more meaningful days when I dropped wads of cash in bars and tony restaurants.
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Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:18:59pm |
Obama:
I grew up on (Michael Jackson's) music. I still have all his songs on my IPOD.
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:19:02pm |
re: #200 garden18
Participation in Internet forums such as this is the perfect outlet for the baby boomer (been there done that) population. Baby boomers are too old to go out much anymore so they stay at home and, with the little creativity still left in their blood, contribute to Internet forums such as LGF. This is not a critique. It's just a fact.
Oh, kindly repair thyself to ye olde rope and take a freakin' whiz up it.
I'm not a boner nor are many of us.
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:20:08pm |
re: #242 David Simon
Yeah, I pine for the more meaningful days when I dropped wads of cash in bars and tony restaurants.
You ate at Tony's, too? I loved the place.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:20:14pm |
re: #240 Gus 802
...and pull out the Sharpie!
//That's a magic marker.
//Just in case.
Get the eyebrows too, and iron fist can do a tattoo, after we shave his head.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:20:24pm |
re: #229 iceweasel
I have a theory that youtube is a pit because of the medium. It's all video, so even the basic literacy required by every other site on the net isn't needed.
I use it all the time...literacy has nothing to do with it for me...it's a hell of a stash
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alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:21:01pm |
re: #200 garden18
Participation in Internet forums such as this is the perfect outlet for the baby boomer (been there done that) population. Baby boomers are too old to go out much anymore so they stay at home and, with the little creativity still left in their blood, contribute to Internet forums such as LGF. This is not a critique. It's just a fact.
* * * *
Many of us also have active social lives, and political lives, and personal lives, and contribute in many REAL, physical ways to our communities.
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jorline Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:21:17pm |
re: #214 pre-Boomer Marine brat
It's time for me to call it a night, so, ... I shall leave in heroic style!
Good night, all.
Sleep well pBMb.
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:21:22pm |
re: #236 Walter L. Newton
Really. And what are your facts on this. You have some links, some study, some research, or are you just blowing shit out you're ass.
I'm just politely asking.
He's a teenager. He knows everything. It's going to be a terrible shock when his baby boomer parents cut off his allowance.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:21:37pm |
re: #241 alegrias
* * * *
Yesterday I attended the swearing in of two (2) GOP city council members in a highly diverse, all democrat town of Alexandria, VA.Dems tried to disqualify the black female GOP candidate's win! But we prevailed.
We gotta start somewhere, making electoral headway into the headwinds to prepare the groundwork for November 2009's governor races, then big Congressional change in 2010. We gotta keep hope alive because many staunch democrats are beginning to notice the President's promises aren't working as promised.
Stay reasonable, stay positive, change minds!
I followed that gig...and I'm impressed, good job
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Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:21:49pm |
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David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:21:59pm |
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irongrampa Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:22:01pm |
re: #214 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Good nite, sir. Have a great Independence Day.
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Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:22:45pm |
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The Left Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:23:13pm |
re: #248 albusteve
I use it all the time...literacy has nothing to do with it for me...it's a hell of a stash
Oh no question that youtube is great! We're talking about the commenters there. They're often subliterate and extremely mean. It's very strange.
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Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:23:31pm |
re: #194 doppelganglander
That is fascinating. At least they're not killing people like the firefighter/arsonists and nurses who cause patients to code so they can save them.
Yeah thats a whole different level there.
Actually one of the weirdos at the stalker site fit the Munchhausen by Internet profile perfectly. Always some police situation going on in right in front of him. Always some violent thing he just saw happen or was about to happen. One BS story after another. He was a creep. But someone would always bite and give him his much needed attention.
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irongrampa Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:23:34pm |
re: #244 MandyManners
I could thump him for you--soon's I get out of this walker.
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alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:23:40pm |
OT
LIVE
John BOlton on North Korea's missile firings of today and those planned for OUR Fourth of July!
Fox new with Greta Van Susteren
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jorline Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:23:49pm |
re: #258 irongrampa
Good nite,
sirma'am. Have a great Independence Day.
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:23:59pm |
re: #259 Jim in Virginia
Yep just saw the One on the evening news.
Beh-rack Oh-buh-ma gets his daily fifteen minutes.
/
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irongrampa Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:25:59pm |
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jorline Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:26:38pm |
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:26:52pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:27:57pm |
re: #260 iceweasel
Oh no question that youtube is great! We're talking about the commenters there. They're often subliterate and extremely mean. It's very strange.
I've never read the comments...I use it for the music vids exclusively and it is one hell of a resource for that...granted it's probably a very small % of the stuff posted there...lunatics and creepy people are all over the net...I simply disregard all of it
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Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:28:06pm |
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irongrampa Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:28:07pm |
Time for the old folk. Company will be here early tomorrow.
Good night, good people--won't be around for a bit, so ALL of you have the best Independence day possible.
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Dar ul Harb Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:28:34pm |
re: #239 Jimmah
I always thought lotr was a bit 'stagey' looking - like a very expensive theatre production. But the cgi elements were excellent - especially gollum.
Great quote in the comments on the article Kragar linked to:
"we are removed from the feeling that this is real on screen- the characters and effects are 100% CGI, the backgrounds are 100% CGI (even things like frickin SUNSETS...does a sunset REALLY NEED TO BE CGI...Do SUNSETS NO LONGER EXIST IN OUR WORLD? Is there NO QUALIFIED CINEMATOGRAPHER in Hollywood that can have actors stand there while a REAL sunset is being filmed? ...... This is where the overuse of CGI has gotten us...things that COULD BE FILMED IN THE REAL WORLD- ARENT- because it is more "convenient" for the director to have things he SHOULD have filmed just "fixed in post using CGI""
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:28:50pm |
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:28:58pm |
re: #262 irongrampa
I could thump him for you--soon's I get out of this walker.
That's why I use a cane!
/
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The Left Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:29:03pm |
re: #269 albusteve
I've never read the comments...I use it for the music vids exclusively and it is one hell of a resource for that...granted it's probably a very small % of the stuff posted there...lunatics and creepy people are all over the net...I simply disregard all of it
I figured you hadn't seen the comments....trust me, you don't need to.
It's fantastic for music vids, of course.
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solomonpanting Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:29:11pm |
Senate bill fines people refusing health coverage
Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which now imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals.
Is Massachusettes going bankrupt since its health coverage bill went into operation?
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Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:29:22pm |
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:29:25pm |
re: #268 DEZes
Wake me up in 42 months.
Would be a great time to be put in stasis.
Daily screenings of Oh-buh-ma.
1297 says left.
//
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:29:26pm |
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David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:29:26pm |
re: #263 alegrias
OT
LIVE
John BOlton on North Korea's missile firings of today and those planned for OUR Fourth of July!
Fox new with Greta Van Susteren
Okay, all I heard was "turn North Korea into a charcoal-red brickette" and "regime change." Was the rest of the interview as good as that?
| 282 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:29:34pm |
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:30:15pm |
re: #279 Gus 802
Would be a great time to be put in stasis.
Daily screenings of Oh-buh-ma.
1297
saysdays left.//
/Doh!
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:30:19pm |
re: #251 alegrias
* * * *
Many of us also have active social lives, and political lives, and personal lives, and contribute in many REAL, physical ways to our communities.
Well, some of us DO love Cheetos.
| 286 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:30:22pm |
re: #278 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Who said I had one on?
This is like Star Trek. Kirk always lost his shirt.
| 287 |
hazzyday Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:30:36pm |
RE: Slow lgf pages. There could by an internet router down. On some of the addthis and google.syndication destinations I was getting timeouts after the trace left sanjose servers.
| 288 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:30:38pm |
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:30:46pm |
re: #273 DEZes
Your not gonna take the shirt off again are you?
Hey, he could drop trou.
Count your blessings.
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alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:30:53pm |
re: #281 David Simon
Okay, all I heard was "turn North Korea into a charcoal-red brickette" and "regime change." Was the rest of the interview as good as that?
* * * *
Sorry, I can alert others but can't type & watch tv at the same time very well!
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Aye Pod Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:31:23pm |
re: #229 iceweasel
I have a theory that youtube is a pit because of the medium. It's all video, so even the basic literacy required by every other site on the net isn't needed.
Good point. There must be a market for someone to come up with a set of 'emchaticons' (the ugliness of that neologism is deliberate btw) that allows youtube posters to circumvent normal language altogether.
| 292 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:31:29pm |
re: #259 Jim in Virginia
Yep just saw the One on the evening news.
Will he attend the final concert funeral?
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Gella Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:31:30pm |
re: #279 Gus 802
Would be a great time to be put in stasis.
Daily screenings of Oh-buh-ma.
1297 says left.
//
reminds me of pilot of Featurama :)
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:31:31pm |
| 295 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:31:56pm |
Ousted leader plans return to Honduras
Ousted President Manuel Zelaya of Honduras continued to build support yesterday for his return home, but the country’s de facto rulers said he would be arrested the minute he set foot on national territory.
As Zelaya addressed a supportive UN audience in New York, Hondurans in Tegucigalpa were demonstrating against and, in smaller numbers, in favor of the deposed leftist leader. Zelaya was flown to Costa Rica in exile early Sunday after soldiers removed him from his home.
Honduran Attorney General Luis Alberto Rubi, who clashed frequently with Zelaya, said arrest warrants had been issued accusing Zelaya of 18 crimes, including treason and abuse of authority. Rubi said authorities would ask Interpol to detain Zelaya, who has said he plans to return to Honduras tomorrow with a delegation of regional heads of state and other officials.
“The justice tribunals of my country have issued orders to capture [Zelaya] because he broke laws,’’ said Roberto Micheletti, the former head of Congress who legislators chose to replace Zelaya after the army deposed him.
US says Zelaya wise not to return yet to Honduras
Ousted Honduras President Manuel Zelaya made a "wise" decision to postpone his return to his country, a senior Obama administration official said on Wednesday.
The official said it was important that the Organization of American States be given an opportunity to attempt to find a diplomatic solution to the problem in Honduras before Zelaya tries to return to his country.
Let's check the scorecard.
/why are we siding and trafficking with communists?
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:31:58pm |
re: #260 iceweasel
Oh no question that youtube is great! We're talking about the commenters there. They're often subliterate and extremely mean. It's very strange.
The only time I ever commented there was trying to explain the difference between nonfiction and a novel. You would have thought I was posting in Urdu for all the comprehension. Goddamn public schools.
| 297 |
Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:31:59pm |
re: #286 DEZes
This is like Star Trek. Kirk always lost his shirt.
I lost it earlier, you missed that part. Now where is my bronzer?
| 298 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:03pm |
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alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:08pm |
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Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:22pm |
re: #261 Mich-again
Yeah thats a whole different level there.
Actually one of the weirdos at the stalker site fit the Munchhausen by Internet profile perfectly.
The evening of the DC Metro collision some doofus at the stalker site who claimed to be a DC resident was telling how the entire Metro system was shut down (wrong), how there had to be hundreds of casualties because at rush hour the train would be full (wrong), and how everyone in the DC area uses the Metro (wrong, wrong, wrong.) It went beyond being misinformed. I got the feeling he lived in Cleveland.
| 301 |
Honorary Yooper Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:25pm |
Rodan1/12/2008 5:51:50 pm PST* 1
* down
* up
* favorite
* reportCharles,
An man is judge by his enemies.
Be proud that those that hate you are evil.
It says you're good!
This was said by a man who fits many of the descriptors in the article Charles linked. He started by saying one thing nice and then turned when Charles rightly turned the spotlight on exposing the nefarious fascist folks in Europe who we thought were our allies.
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Gella Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:28pm |
re: #286 DEZes
This is like Star Trek. Kirk always lost his shirt.
and different skin color chick every episode :)
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:31pm |
re: #293 Gella
reminds me of pilot of Featurama :)
Or 1984.
Obama's big head on the giant screen with his "daily presidential blessings."
//
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Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:41pm |
re: #289 OldLineTexan
Hey, he could drop trou.
Count your blessings.
Well, now that you mention it......
BASK IN THE MAJESTY!
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Gella Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:51pm |
re: #303 Gus 802
Or 1984.
Obama's big head on the giant screen with his "daily presidential blessings."
//
LOL, talking head
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jorline Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:55pm |
re: #268 DEZes
Wake me up in 42 months.
Hi ya DEZ.
They'll make a ton of noise while taking everything you own. At this rate all of our possessions will all be gone in 42 months.
*sigh*
| 307 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:32:56pm |
re: #271 irongrampa
Time for the old folk. Company will be here early tomorrow.
Good night, good people--won't be around for a bit, so ALL of you have the best Independence day possible.
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!
(Don't blow off any fingers, toes or other things you need.)
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:33:31pm |
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Bloodnok Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:33:49pm |
re: #301 Honorary Yooper
This was said by a man who fits many of the descriptors in the article Charles linked. He started by saying one thing nice and then turned when Charles rightly turned the spotlight on exposing the nefarious fascist folks in Europe who we thought were our allies.
Holy shit. Rodan said that? Hahaaaaaa! Pwned.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:34:25pm |
re: #296 doppelganglander
The only time I ever commented there was trying to explain the difference between nonfiction and a novel. You would have thought I was posting in Urdu for all the comprehension. Goddamn public schools.
You can't blame public schools for all the idjits. Thre aren't that many schools.
/
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:34:30pm |
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BignJames Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:34:45pm |
re: #200 garden18
Participation in Internet forums such as this is the perfect outlet for the baby boomer (been there done that) population. Baby boomers are too old to go out much anymore so they stay at home and, with the little creativity still left in their blood, contribute to Internet forums such as LGF. This is not a critique. It's just a fact.
I guess you just dropped by to post a really stupid comment....it's just a fact.
| 313 |
alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:34:50pm |
re: #295 Killian Bundy
Ousted leader plans return to Honduras
Let's check the scorecard.
/why are we siding and trafficking with communists?
* * * * *
HAHAHAHAHA.
President was literally suckled on marxism, assuming he was breast fed in Hawaii, Kenya or wherever else his bigamist baby daddy dragged Obama's mother around.
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irish rose Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:35:15pm |
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:35:16pm |
re: #307 MandyManners
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!
(Don't blow off any fingers, toes or other things you need.)
Burn ban.
/sigh
No "good" fireworks this year.
| 316 |
Gella Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:35:25pm |
Emotion, few details, in Obama's health care pitch
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:35:50pm |
re: #310 OldLineTexan
You can't blame public schools for all the idjits. Thre aren't that many schools.
/
Many have the distinction of having graduated from Harvard.
Or Berkeley.
//
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:00pm |
re: #312 BignJames
I guess you just dropped by to post a really stupid comment....it's just a fact.
It's a fact what garden posted or that garden's post is stupid?
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alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:04pm |
re: #302 Gella
and different skin color chick every episode :)
* * * *
It was the dawning of the age of Aquarius.
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Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:22pm |
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OldScouter Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:25pm |
re: #315 OldLineTexan
Burn ban.
/sigh
No "good" fireworks this year.
You must be in the drought area. My daughter is near Bastrop. The trees are begging her dogs to visit.
| 322 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:25pm |
re: #315 OldLineTexan
Burn ban.
/sigh
No "good" fireworks this year.
We'll shoot some off in your honor.
| 323 |
Stuart Leviton Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:34pm |
'Jewish Ahmadinejad' blogger arrested
Dr. Mehdi Khazali, the son of a prominent conservative pro-Ahmadinejad ayatollah, wrote on his Web site earlier this year that the president - a Holocaust denier and relentless critic of Israel - was of partially Jewish origin, asserting that Ahmadinejad had changed his family name from Saburjian.
Dr Khazali is being detained by the authorities after he was arrested along with 150 university students earlier this week.
(Source: words excerpted and rearranged from The Jerusalem Post, article by Sabina Amidi)
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Bloodnok Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:34pm |
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BignJames Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:36:56pm |
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:37:01pm |
re: #316 Gella
Emotion, few details, in Obama's health care pitch
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]
Latest is a 1000 dollar fine if you don't get health insurance. Average price for an individual is about 4000 per year.
That's what's being tossed around.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:37:05pm |
re: #306 jorline
Hi ya DEZ.
They'll make a ton of noise while taking everything you own. At this rate all of our possessions will all be gone in 42 months.
*sigh*
Hi jorline, I suppose i had better drink heavily then.
| 328 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:37:16pm |
re: #300 Jim in Virginia
The evening of the DC Metro collision some doofus at the stalker site who claimed to be a DC resident was telling how the entire Metro system was shut down (wrong), how there had to be hundreds of casualties because at rush hour the train would be full (wrong), and how everyone in the DC area uses the Metro (wrong, wrong, wrong.) It went beyond being misinformed. I got the feeling he lived in Cleveland.
frikkin' Drew Carey, always drunk and lyin' on teh intertubes
| 329 |
alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:37:25pm |
re: #311 MandyManners
Por supuesto.
* * * *
Y patatas fritas.
Y panchitos. (I think those were peanuts)
| 330 |
David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:37:29pm |
re: #277 solomonpanting
From your link:
The Senate Health Education, Labor and Pensions bill also calls for a government-run insurance option to compete with private plans as well as a $750-per-worker annual fee on larger companies that do not offer coverage to employees.
Perhaps it's the alcohol swimming around my brain, but why would "larger companies" need to offer coverage if there's a government-run insurance option? And if I'm the CEO of a "large company," why wouldn't I pick the shittiest plan available to encourage my employees to choose the "better" government option, thus saving my company money?
| 331 |
Gella Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:38:12pm |
if you have enough benjamins off-the-record access to "those powerful few" — Obama administration officials, members of Congress, and even the paper’s own reporters and editors.
[Link: www.politico.com...]
| 332 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:38:33pm |
| 333 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:38:55pm |
re: #310 OldLineTexan
You can't blame public schools for all the idjits. Thre aren't that many schools.
/
The ones we do have are working overtime. I especially hate textspeak. I use LOL, IMHO and the like, but I can actually spell "your" (and I know the difference between that and "you're"). Believe it or not, my kids all text in full sentences with punctuation. They were all terrible spellers as children, but when chat came along they were embarrassed by their poor skills and learned to do better. It carried over into texting.
/trying not to be a grammar Nazi
| 334 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:39:06pm |
re: #321 OldScouter
You must be in the drought area. My daughter is near Bastrop. The trees are begging her dogs to visit.
Northwest of Houston. Not an official drought yet, but dry and hot as Hell. We now have watering restrictions (yay!), but my yard was already taking it in the cojones.
| 335 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:39:22pm |
re: #329 alegrias
* * * *
Y patatas fritas.
Y panchitos. (I think those were peanuts)
Sure they weren't Pancho's testicles?
| 336 |
alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:39:31pm |
re: #316 Gella
Emotion, few details, in Obama's health care pitch
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]
* * * *
That was Pres. Obama's Phony Potemkin Village Phake Pharmaceutical Pitch
| 338 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:39:48pm |
| 339 |
BignJames Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:39:55pm |
re: #330 David Simon
From your link:
Perhaps it's the alcohol swimming around my brain, but why would "larger companies" need to offer coverage if there's a government-run insurance option? And if I'm the CEO of a "large company," why wouldn't I pick the shittiest plan available to encourage my employees to choose the "better" government option, thus saving my company money?
There's no logic in government.
| 340 |
jorline Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:40:04pm |
California Lizards...will your mortgage company take a state issued IOU?
/
| 341 |
Gella Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:40:15pm |
re: #336 alegrias
* * * *
That was Pres. Obama's Phony Potemkin Village Phake Pharmaceutical Pitch
ROFLLLLLLLLLL
so, pharm companies will finally have to stop giving government money?
/////
| 342 |
The Left Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:40:18pm |
re: #330 David Simon
And if I'm the CEO of a "large company," why wouldn't I pick the shittiest plan available to encourage my employees to choose the "better" government option, thus saving my company money?
Presumably for the same reason CEO's don't already offer the crappiest plan possible: if you want to entice and keep good employees, the health care plan is one of the ways to do it.
So if you're CEO of a large company offering a shitty plan, you'll actually lose money and employees to companies that offer better plans.
This is my guess anyway.
| 343 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:40:28pm |
re: #333 doppelganglander
The ones we do have are working overtime. I especially hate textspeak. I use LOL, IMHO and the like, but I can actually spell "your" (and I know the difference between that and "you're"). Believe it or not, my kids all text in full sentences with punctuation. They were all terrible spellers as children, but when chat came along they were embarrassed by their poor skills and learned to do better. It carried over into texting.
/trying not to be a grammar Nazi
otoh, i am uzing LOLspeke az much az posbull!
/
| 344 |
Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:40:36pm |
re: #304 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Well, now that you mention it......
BASK IN THE MAJESTY!
Let me get a microscope.....
| 345 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:40:42pm |
re: #316 Gella
Emotion, few details, in Obama's health care pitch
[Link: apnews.myway.com...]
Jcm posted links this morning about the woman who supposedly has the cancer is actually a paid flackie.
| 346 |
jaunte Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:40:44pm |
re: #326 Gus 802
Is the $1000 fine for anyone without coverage, or citizens only?
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:40:53pm |
Unemployment is at 9.5%. Basically if you include the un-documented unemployed it's well over 10 percent. Double digit inflation. Yet the buffoon goes out and touts "green jobs" yet again. What green jobs? Working at a landfill?
| 348 |
solomonpanting Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:40:58pm |
re: #330 David Simon
From your link:
Perhaps it's the alcohol swimming around my brain, but why would "larger companies" need to offer coverage if there's a government-run insurance option? And if I'm the CEO of a "large company," why wouldn't I pick the shittiest plan available to encourage my employees to choose the "better" government option, thus saving my company money?
We haven't seen the bill yet. Perhaps there will be a clause in there to prohibit just such actions on the part of CEO's.
| 349 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:41:33pm |
| 350 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:41:42pm |
re: #346 jaunte
Is the $1000 fine for anyone without coverage, or citizens only?
I'm sure only citizens. The rest will probably get some form of "sanctuary" if you know what I mean.
| 351 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:41:44pm |
re: #343 OldLineTexan
otoh, i am uzing LOLspeke az much az posbull!
/
You're just confirming my suspicion that you're really a cat.
| 352 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:42:06pm |
| 353 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:42:11pm |
re: #344 Jim in Virginia
Let me get a microscope.....
They have a few electron microscopes on the west coast.
| 354 |
The Left Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:42:42pm |
re: #291 Jimmah
Good point. There must be a market for someone to come up with a set of 'emchaticons' (the ugliness of that neologism is deliberate btw) that allows youtube posters to circumvent normal language altogether.
Whoever invents that would make a fortune. They're already mostly communicating via text speak and lolcats anyway over there.
| 355 |
jaunte Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:42:45pm |
re: #350 Gus 802
I see this in the article:
"The legislation would exempt certain hardship cases from fines."
So it could be anything.
| 356 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:42:50pm |
| 357 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:43:17pm |
re: #351 doppelganglander
You're just confirming my suspicion that you're really a cat.
az a mater of fack i do werk 4 teh basement cat, but mai dooties r maneli saramonee-ull!
/
| 358 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:43:30pm |
re: #356 DEZes
Sky rockets in flight. ;)
I'm thinking about Arrested Development right now and laughing hysterically.
| 359 |
BignJames Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:43:31pm |
| 360 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:43:40pm |
re: #355 jaunte
I see this in the article:
"The legislation would exempt certain hardship cases from fines."
So it could be anything.
Roger. Then it would be a form and then having to meet certain criteria.
Big brother. IRS meets health insurance.
| 361 |
Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:43:48pm |
re: #347 Gus 802
Unemployment is at 9.5%. Basically if you include the un-documented unemployed it's well over 10 percent. Double digit inflation. Yet the buffoon goes out and touts "green jobs" yet again. What green jobs? Working at a landfill?
During my job search, "Green Energy" jobs are few and far between. Though there are a plethora of Nursing and Medical Tech jobs in my area.
| 362 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:44:06pm |
| 363 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:44:11pm |
re: #342 iceweasel
Presumably for the same reason CEO's don't already offer the crappiest plan possible: if you want to entice and keep good employees, the health care plan is one of the ways to do it.
So if you're CEO of a large company offering a shitty plan, you'll actually lose money and employees to companies that offer better plans.
This is my guess anyway.
That might work in decent economic times but, this ain't that.
| 364 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:44:21pm |
re: #350 Gus 802
I'm sure only citizens. The rest will probably get some form of "sanctuary" if you know what I mean.
I hope it's a hump and a Gypsy girl!
/
| 365 |
OldScouter Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:44:31pm |
Products of public education. The neighborhood kids can't read a calendar. Today is the 2nd of July, not the 4th.
| 366 |
MarineGrunt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:44:36pm |
| 367 |
Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:44:38pm |
re: #326 Gus 802
Latest is a 1000 dollar fine if you don't get health insurance. Average price for an individual is about 4000 per year.
That's what's being tossed around.
So....if you don't pay the $1,000, does that mean that you default and the gubmint will pay for your insurance?
//
| 368 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:45:17pm |
| 369 |
jaunte Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:45:20pm |
re: #360 Gus 802
These people are nuts to think they can mess with health care coverage in such a huge way and still have consistent services at the end of the meddling.
| 370 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:45:24pm |
re: #361 Idle Drifter
During my job search, "Green Energy" jobs are few and far between. Though there are a plethora of Nursing and Medical Tech jobs in my area.
Sounds right. Those are depression proof. Another being mortuary services.
| 371 |
alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:45:32pm |
re: #341 Gella
ROFLLLLLLLLLL
so, pharm companies will finally have to stop giving government money?
/////
* * * **
Pres. Obama's fake town hall was so phony even a 95 year old little old lady could tell. Helen Thomas the old dame shook her crooked little finger at the President's spokesman Robert Gibbs and said she wasn't fooled.
It was great tv! Look it up on youtube.
| 372 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:18pm |
re: #365 OldScouter
Products of public education. The neighborhood kids can't read a calendar. Today is the 2nd of July, not the 4th.
What was the name of your private school, Scout?
| 373 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:19pm |
| 374 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:23pm |
/Krauthammer nails it
| 375 |
Gella Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:25pm |
re: #371 alegrias
* * * **
Pres. Obama's fake town hall was so phony even a 95 year old little old lady could tell. Helen Thomas the old dame shook her crooked little finger at the President's spokesman Robert Gibbs and said she wasn't fooled.It was great tv! Look it up on youtube.
hey Helen Thomas is smart cookie, she can read thru presidents :))
| 376 |
Ojoe Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:26pm |
Sanity break!
If you know where to look, the internet can make you sane.
| 377 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:26pm |
re: #367 Unakite
So....if you don't pay the $1,000, does that mean that you default and the gubmint will pay for your insurance?
//
My guess would be, ready? They'd add "penalties and interest."
| 378 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:30pm |
re: #358 doppelganglander
I'm thinking about Arrested Development right now and laughing hysterically.
I made a huge mistake.
| 379 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:45pm |
re: #370 Gus 802
Sounds right. Those are depression proof. Another being mortuary services.
beer delivery
| 380 |
Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:51pm |
re: #334 OldLineTexan
Northwest of Houston. Not an official drought yet, but dry and hot as Hell. We now have watering restrictions (yay!), but my yard was already taking it in the cojones.
Watering restrictions in Houston? The Communists really have taken over down there.
Next thing you know they'll ban open beer containers in cars.
| 381 |
Aye Pod Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:46:53pm |
re: #272 Dar ul Harb
I don't actually have such a big problem with that sort of use of cgi - as long as it looks good. And that's usually down to the quality of the art direction more than anything else.
A couple of great examples of recent cgi use, for me, are Cloverfield, and War of the Worlds. They were pretty much without fault. A bad example - Scorpion King - The Mummy Returns - especially the bit with the cgi version of "The Rock".
| 382 |
jaunte Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:47:10pm |
re: #377 Gus 802
"Hey, turns out you can get blood from a taxpayer!"
| 383 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:47:15pm |
re: #361 Idle Drifter
During my job search, "Green Energy" jobs are few and far between. Though there are a plethora of Nursing and Medical Tech jobs in my area.
And did you notice how no one ever defines "green jobs?" I read an interesting article about people returning to community college to learn new skills. The colleges are responding by expanding their programs, and many are adding some sort of environmental engineering or technician program. But even the colleges admit there are no jobs and they have no idea what these people will be doing once they graduate. Nursing programs, OTOH, have long waiting lists - they can't get enough facilities and instructors to accommodate the interest level.
| 384 |
OldScouter Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:47:29pm |
re: #372 OldLineTexan
What was the name of your private school, Scout?
How did you know?
St Bartholomew in Chicago, St Paul in Burlington Iowa, and St. George HS in Evanston.
| 385 |
Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:47:34pm |
| 386 |
solomonpanting Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:47:41pm |
re: #361 Idle Drifter
During my job search, "Green Energy" jobs are few and far between.
It just dawned on me that when this Administration refers to "Green Energy" it's signifies all of the money it's burned and will continue to burn in the coming years.
| 387 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:47:42pm |
re: #375 Gella
hey Helen Thomas is smart cookie, she can read thru presidents :))
That has to be the first time in history that she has been called a cookie.
Kooky yes......
| 388 |
Gearhead Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:47:47pm |
I think I suffer from all 6. Should I be concerned?
I wonder if further increasing my caffeine intake would help.
| 389 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:47:53pm |
re: #347 Gus 802
Unemployment is at 9.5%. Basically if you include the un-documented unemployed it's well over 10 percent. Double digit inflation. Yet the buffoon goes out and touts "green jobs" yet again. What green jobs? Working at a landfill?
No, right here in Denver they trained about 60 workers on how to put weather stripping on windows and doors. They were trained using stimulus money. Of course, they have no jobs, but, they are trained.
| 390 |
alegrias Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:48:27pm |
re: #347 Gus 802
Unemployment is at 9.5%. Basically if you include the un-documented unemployed it's well over 10 percent. Double digit inflation. Yet the buffoon goes out and touts "green jobs" yet again. What green jobs? Working at a landfill?
* * * *
Don't laugh but I read yesterday, perhaps in the DC Examiner, that undocumented workers here in the USA are asking their families in Mexico or other countries, to wire money BACK TO THE USA.
Yes, unemployed undocumented workers are asking 3rd world countries to send money to the USA.
Those businesses that wire money said it was the first time they could recall so called remittances being returned to the USA.
| 391 |
David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:48:29pm |
re: #342 iceweasel
Presumably for the same reason CEO's don't already offer the crappiest plan possible: if you want to entice and keep good employees, the health care plan is one of the ways to do it.
So if you're CEO of a large company offering a shitty plan, you'll actually lose money and employees to companies that offer better plans.
This is my guess anyway.
Except that there's currently no "free" government option to compete with private insurance.
And if you read the plan that the Kennedy crew has drafted, you'll see that the insurance plan that you've been promised you can keep must be a "qualified" plan pursuant to govenment mandate.
| 392 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:48:30pm |
re: #382 jaunte
"Hey, turns out you can get blood from a taxpayer!"
It's the common Democrat design standard. Tax it, make if more expensive, and regulate it to death. Climate change, health care, energy, etc.
| 393 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:48:32pm |
re: #370 Gus 802
Sounds right. Those are depression proof. Another being mortuary services.
Especially since all the baby boomers are practically dead anyway, according to garden18.
| 394 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:49:00pm |
re: #376 Ojoe
Sanity break!
If you know where to look, the internet can make you sane.
Beautiful as usual. Too bad they don't have it turned around, though. Tonight they are having fireworks in Altadena at 9:30.
| 395 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:49:06pm |
| 396 |
Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:49:07pm |
re: #377 Gus 802
My guess would be, ready? They'd add "penalties and interest."
Send them an IOU, its as good as cash
/
| 397 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:49:32pm |
re: #389 Walter L. Newton
No, right here in Denver they trained about 60 workers on how to put weather stripping on windows and doors. They were trained using stimulus money. Of course, they have no jobs, but, they are trained.
Ah, those must be those "summer jobs" they were talking about. Let's see, it's July already. Where's those Obama Summer Jobs he was talking about?
| 398 |
sngnsgt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:49:53pm |
| 399 |
OldScouter Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:50:04pm |
re: #393 doppelganglander
Especially since all the baby boomers are practically dead anyway, according to garden18.
In England, I would be dead.
In Canada, I would be an invalid.
In America, I am a Lizard.
It's good to be a Lizard.
| 400 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:50:04pm |
| 401 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:50:14pm |
re: #380 Jim in Virginia
Watering restrictions in Houston? The Communists really have taken over down there.
Next thing you know they'll ban open beer containers in cars.
TOO LATE! AND the rep that pushed it used RACIST SLURS to do so.
Plus, we have hydraulic despotism in any case. We are being forced (using our tax money) to abandon our wells for Houston-owned surface water.
/I blame Bush
| 402 |
Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:50:17pm |
re: #356 DEZes
Sky rockets in flight. ;)
Curse you! Now there's another tune I'll be unable to get out of my brain.
| 403 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:50:24pm |
re: #374 Killian Bundy
I wish BO would come clean and explain his position on Honduras...once again he is making a major fool out of himself
| 404 |
The Left Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:51:10pm |
re: #391 David Simon
Except that there's currently no "free" government option to compete with private insurance.
And if you read the plan that the Kennedy crew has drafted, you'll see that the insurance plan that you've been promised you can keep must be a "qualified" plan pursuant to govenment mandate.
It's not going to be "free" though, is it? public, yes; free, no was my understanding.
| 405 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:51:17pm |
re: #393 doppelganglander
Especially since all the baby boomers are practically dead anyway, according to garden18.
Saw that. What's his problem?
Most of the people I see whining about baby boomers are 20 something toofers.
| 406 |
Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:51:20pm |
re: #370 Gus 802
Sounds right. Those are depression proof. Another being mortuary services.
Pole dancers, bartenders and porn vendors.
| 407 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:51:47pm |
re: #397 Gus 802
Ah, those must be those "summer jobs" they were talking about. Let's see, it's July already. Where's those Obama Summer Jobs he was talking about?
Summer jobs, and some ain't.
/
| 408 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:51:59pm |
re: #402 Jim in Virginia
Curse you! Now there's another tune I'll be unable to get out of my brain.
With all these curses being put on me, its only a matter of time before one sticks, and we end up with an idiot running the country......
Ah crap.
| 409 |
Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:52:05pm |
re: #405 Gus 802
Saw that. What's his problem?
Most of the people I see whining about baby boomers are 20 something toofers.
MOMMY NEVER LOVED ME!
/
| 410 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:52:17pm |
re: #396 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Send them an IOU, its as good as cash
/
Good luck trying that. ;) They're rather persistent pukes -- the Feds that is.
| 411 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:52:25pm |
re: #390 alegrias
* * * *
Don't laugh but I read yesterday, perhaps in the DC Examiner, that undocumented workers here in the USA are asking their families in Mexico or other countries, to wire money BACK TO THE USA.Yes, unemployed undocumented workers are asking 3rd world countries to send money to the USA.
Those businesses that wire money said it was the first time they could recall so called remittances being returned to the USA.
Why don't they go the fuck back home?
| 412 |
Truck Monkey Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:52:26pm |
re: #342 iceweasel
Presumably for the same reason CEO's don't already offer the crappiest plan possible: if you want to entice and keep good employees, the health care plan is one of the ways to do it.
So if you're CEO of a large company offering a shitty plan, you'll actually lose money and employees to companies that offer better plans.
This is my guess anyway.
Back when companies actually fought over good employees. Now in the Obamaconomy prospective employees are going to have to come up with something good to offer the employers!
| 413 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:52:38pm |
re: #405 Gus 802
Saw that. What's his problem?
Most of the people I see whining about baby boomers are 20 something toofers.
They're pissed because we have all the stuff.
/I'm keeping mine, beeyotches.
| 414 |
jorline Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:52:44pm |
Obama meets his match in Russia?
One reason for this attitude is that the Russians do not quite share Obama's sense of global priorities. For Obama, as for so much of the planet, global climate change is a serious and even urgent concern. But as the BBC poll found, this is not a priority for Russians, and neither is making peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians, another big agenda item for Obama and his allies.
A deeper reason for Russian skepticism of Obama, and of the Obama craze in general, goes to a core difference of temperament. Obama is prototypically American in his penchant for singing his political song in the key of optimism. For Russians, life tends to be lived in the bittersweet key of tragedy.
While the Russians are not gloomy pessimists -- they have a sardonic genius for finding a way to laugh through their tears -- they are skeptics on the distinctively American idea that history is all about progress. Experience, painful experience, has taught them otherwise.
This seems apropos at this time.
/
| 415 |
Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:52:48pm |
re: #401 OldLineTexan
TOO LATE! AND the rep that pushed it used RACIST SLURS to do so.
Plus, we have hydraulic despotism in any case. We are being forced (using our tax money) to abandon our wells for Houston-owned surface water.
/I blame Bush
I took a college course in hydraulic despotism.
| 416 |
David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:53:20pm |
re: #348 solomonpanting
We haven't seen the bill yet. Perhaps there will be a clause in there to prohibit just such actions on the part of CEO's.
That's what I'm afraid of. We are living in the age of globalization. There's nothing stopping "large companies" from packing up and leaving if the competitive environment becomes too rough.
| 417 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:53:21pm |
re: #409 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
MOMMY NEVER LOVED ME!
/
Bad resolution of nipple aversion in breast-feeding.
| 418 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:53:41pm |
| 419 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:53:52pm |
| 420 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:54:07pm |
Hey all, I'm back and calmer.
| 421 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:54:58pm |
| 422 |
SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:55:33pm |
re: #413 OldLineTexan
They're pissed because we have all the stuff.
/I'm keeping mine, beeyotches.
*snort*
dude, you made it come out of my nose.
| 423 |
Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:55:35pm |
re: #370 Gus 802
Sounds right. Those are depression proof. Another being mortuary services.
Tomorrow I'll get the word if I might be starting a new job with an industrial pest control company. Hopefully, there's enough job security but since it's part commission I'm worried that businesses I may be servicing will close their doors.
| 424 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:55:38pm |
re: #418 DEZes
No welfare benefits.
No welfare, no decent housing, no police protection, no clean water, no nice roads (OK not all of them are great here), no victim status, etc, etc.
:)
| 425 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:55:52pm |
re: #326 Gus 802
Average price for an individual is about 4000 per year.
/sound like some tax deduction waiting to happen, credit the payroll tax for lower wage earners, Medicaid, as always, for the poor, zero coverage for illegal aliens (go home and come here and get a Social Security number legally) other than the emergency room, which they already have
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Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:56:12pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:56:26pm |
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David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:57:08pm |
re: #404 iceweasel
It's not going to be "free" though, is it? public, yes; free, no was my understanding.
How much it costs depends on your income.
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The Left Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:57:08pm |
re: #412 Truck Monkey
Back when companies actually fought over good employees. Now in the Obamaconomy prospective employees are going to have to come up with something good to offer the employers!
True. I'm hoping this isn't going to be the way it will always be from now on, however.
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:57:14pm |
re: #425 Killian Bundy
/sound like some tax deduction waiting to happen, credit the payroll tax for lower wage earners, Medicaid, as always, for the poor, zero coverage for illegal aliens (go home and come here and get a Social Security number legally) other than the emergency room, which they already have
That would make sense but then they'll turn around and tax you somewhere else. I know at least in my own case I wouldn't qualify for any exemption and wouldn't get away from the coming tax increases if they are successful.
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The Left Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:57:29pm |
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Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:57:47pm |
There is also the CAPS POSTING SHOUTER!
And the pottymouth.
The linkdroppers who debate by proxy.
And the punching bags who stand there and get pummeled.
And the crazy Uncle.
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:57:48pm |
re: #405 Gus 802
Saw that. What's his problem?
Most of the people I see whining about baby boomers are 20 something toofers.
He ran off, so who knows. I was sure he was going to launch into a tirade about how everything wrong with this country can be blamed on baby boomers.
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Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:57:54pm |
re: #388 Gearhead
I think I suffer from all 6. Should I be concerned?
I wonder if further increasing my caffeine intake would help.
No, that makes you well balanced. :)
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jorline Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:58:00pm |
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:58:32pm |
re: #384 OldScouter
How did you know?
St Bartholomew in Chicago, St Paul in Burlington Iowa, and St. George HS in Evanston.
It was a guess. I went to public school ... J. Frank Dobie H.S., in Pasa-get down-dena, Texas.
But I did attend a private university. I kan be snob 2?
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:59:06pm |
re: #416 David Simon
That's what I'm afraid of. We are living in the age of globalization. There's nothing stopping "large companies" from packing up and leaving if the competitive environment becomes too rough.
I was about to ask if the will find the right kind of political and social environment elsewhere but, it suddenly hit me that a lot of what big compaines want is a pliant work force.
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Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:59:09pm |
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Aye Pod Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:59:17pm |
Full-blown white guys with beards and glasses playing drum 'n' bass as a live act. Disturbing.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:59:30pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 7:59:37pm |
Ok, how are you-all and what are we talking about?
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:00:27pm |
re: #413 OldLineTexan
They're pissed because we have all the stuff.
/I'm keeping mine, beeyotches.
You older boomers have all the stuff. I graduated from high school in the midst of the last recession, the one this one is soon to exceed. When there are millions of people a few years older than you who have more experience, it's pretty hard to get a foothold in life. That's why I have sympathy for today's new graduates who are having such a tough time.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:00:38pm |
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wee fury Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:00:42pm |
I just want SOUND when I type. Something like this would be good.
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:00:56pm |
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:01:21pm |
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:01:34pm |
re: #433 doppelganglander
He ran off, so who knows. I was sure he was going to launch into a tirade about how everything wrong with this country can be blamed on baby boomers.
Used to hear that whining all the time a couple of years ago. Whining about the "baby boomers." Meanwhile they were sitting around their apartment getting stoned and drunk daily and their primary purpose in life was that and watching "American Idol" or downloading torrent files.
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jorline Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:01:48pm |
re: #436 OldLineTexan
It was a guess. I went to public school ... J. Frank Dobie H.S., in Pasa-get down-dena, Texas.
But I did attend a private university. I kan be snob 2?
Gilley's...spent a few nights there.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:01:56pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:02:02pm |
re: #443 doppelganglander
You older boomers have all the stuff. I graduated from high school in the midst of the last recession, the one this one is soon to exceed. When there are millions of people a few years older than you who have more experience, it's pretty hard to get a foothold in life. That's why I have sympathy for today's new graduates who are having such a tough time.
my kids are flush...they are smart and highly marketable...decisions
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Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:02:04pm |
If you would have told me ten years ago I would be sitting at home watching people playing poker on TV I would have thought you were nuts.
But WSOP is great TV. Way better than most all reality TV.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:02:26pm |
Freakin' meal moths! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAArgh!
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Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:02:54pm |
re: #383 doppelganglander
And did you notice how no one ever defines "green jobs?" I read an interesting article about people returning to community college to learn new skills. The colleges are responding by expanding their programs, and many are adding some sort of environmental engineering or technician program. But even the colleges admit there are no jobs and they have no idea what these people will be doing once they graduate. Nursing programs, OTOH, have long waiting lists - they can't get enough facilities and instructors to accommodate the interest level.
I just want my $20.61 an hour oilfield job back. I was a low level tech with 4 months short of 3 years with the comapny and looking forward to advancing onto other drilling tools and company schools before trying to make the jump into management. I better stop this rant, it's just boiling the blood.
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BignJames Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:03:01pm |
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:03:06pm |
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David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:03:31pm |
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:03:52pm |
re: #454 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Freakin' meal moths! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAArgh!
To late the pie is gone, the cake is gone..... sorry.
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:03:57pm |
re: #454 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Freakin' meal moths! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAArgh!
Ramen noodles are pretty cheap.
//
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:03:58pm |
re: #443 doppelganglander
You older boomers have all the stuff. I graduated from high school in the midst of the last recession, the one this one is soon to exceed. When there are millions of people a few years older than you who have more experience, it's pretty hard to get a foothold in life. That's why I have sympathy for today's new graduates who are having such a tough time.
I was born in '62 ... "Boomer" ends at '64 in most definitions ... I worked my way through school, competed for jobs on my own merits, etc., other boring middle-aged white guy stuff like that.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:04:02pm |
re: #445 wee fury
Jerry Lewis used to do that in a bit.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:04:41pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:04:50pm |
re: #461 OldLineTexan
I was born in 62 also, of course for me, 1962.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:04:57pm |
re: #457 DEZes
Gilleys is gone I shall never get to visit.
Imagine a barn full of drunks with a bar every fifteen feet.
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jorline Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:05:15pm |
re: #457 DEZes
Gilleys is gone I shall never get to visit.
The luster was gone a few years after Urban Cowboy.
/
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:05:18pm |
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:05:19pm |
re: #124 Thanos
So what is it called when your IQ is 167 and you are obsessed with testosterone?
There are three kinds of people in the world.
That one was a pussy.
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BignJames Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:05:25pm |
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:05:26pm |
re: #452 albusteve
my kids are flush...they are smart and highly marketable...decisions
That's great. My new grad is about to start her first real job, too. I'm just saying, it's possible to do everything right and still have a hard time.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:05:42pm |
re: #465 OldLineTexan
Imagine a barn full of drunks with a bar every fifteen feet.
I saw urban cowboy, dreadful movie.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:05:59pm |
re: #466 jorline
The luster was gone a few years
afterbefore Urban Cowboy.
/
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Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:06:21pm |
re: #443 doppelganglander
You older boomers have all the stuff. I graduated from high school in the midst of the last recession, the one this one is soon to exceed. When there are millions of people a few years older than you who have more experience, it's pretty hard to get a foothold in life. That's why I have sympathy for today's new graduates who are having such a tough time.
You young whippersnapeprs dont know how good you have it. WhenI was young, we felt lucky to have four tv channels. We grew up without Walkmans, (IPODs? fuhgeddaboutit), cell phones, PCs, yadda yadda yadda. We had to walk to school in the snow and it was uphill both ways.
////
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:06:56pm |
re: #470 doppelganglander
That's great. My new grad is about to start her first real job, too. I'm just saying, it's possible to do everything right and still have a hard time.
yes, I not boasting, it's just that too many kids squander their college years on nonsense then whine about it
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:06:57pm |
re: #471 DEZes
I saw urban cowboy, dreadful movie.
Depressing movie. Lots of uncomfortable moments including in the acting department.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:06:57pm |
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:07:41pm |
re: #464 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I was born in 62 also, of course for me, 1962.
Well, 1862 was a banner year. Pa was on leave from the Confederate Army ...
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:07:43pm |
re: #478 DEZes
I think they have beef butt as well.
Yep. Beef, chicken and pork butts.
/Bullion powder.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:07:48pm |
re: #477 Gus 802
Depressing movie. Lots of uncomfortable moments including in the acting department.
One chick was hot......other than that, it sucked.
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wee fury Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:08:55pm |
Without a job?
Join the Navy and see the world!
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:09:08pm |
re: #477 Gus 802
Depressing movie. Lots of uncomfortable moments including in the acting department.
My oldest female cousin was an extra in that. She and her husband at the time apparently spent too much time there ...
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:09:16pm |
Pay $1+ trillion to insure another 10 million people, still leaving 25 million in the dust, and where are all the extra doctors going to come from, seriously? The math just does not work.
/[expletive deleted] that [expletive deleted]
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:09:42pm |
I hope everyone else has the day off. I do. I'm having some friends and family over for ribs tomorrow, and gigs on Saturday and Sunday.
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:10:03pm |
re: #461 OldLineTexan
I was born in '62 ... "Boomer" ends at '64 in most definitions ... I worked my way through school, competed for jobs on my own merits, etc., other boring middle-aged white guy stuff like that.
I never did the university route. My first "real job" was around 1983 and I got 5.67 an hour. It was a start. Plus back then when you got a job it was a given that "people would tell you what to do" and that you may occasionally get yelled at for certain indiscretions.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:10:08pm |
re: #481 Gus 802
Yep. Beef, chicken and pork butts.
/Bullion powder.
How many is a bullion?
*Barack Obama*
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:10:19pm |
My house is infested with meal moths. Been trying to get rid of them for three years. Starting to look like the basement of Jame Gumb's house in here.
I'm about to last resort. Bug Zapper in living room. Whaddya think?
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Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:10:32pm |
re: #486 Killian Bundy
Pay $1+ trillion to insure another 10 million people, still leaving 25 million in the dust, and where are all the extra doctors going to come from, seriously? The math just does not work.
/[expletive deleted] that [expletive deleted]
I suppose you're some kind of mathologist?
/obamaton
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OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:10:34pm |
re: #483 Jim in Virginia
OPPRESSOR!
You're one to talk, Mr. Virginia, or should I say THE MAN? ! ?
/
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windhorse Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:11:14pm |
I remember one of the chicks in Urban Cowboy wore some cute little cowboy hat.... and had an attitude....
Next thing you know, she and someone else arrived at the Hotel Galvez (in Galveston) in a Limo wearing roller blades one evening... I chased them off of the veranda.
They got back in their limo and left.
(She wasn't THAT good looking....)
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Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:11:36pm |
re: #486 Killian Bundy
Pay $1+ trillion to insure another 10 million people, still leaving 25 million in the dust, and where are all the extra doctors going to come from? ]
India and Russia.
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jaunte Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:11:53pm |
re: #486 Killian Bundy
We'll get tons of extra doctors because of the extra-doctor magic hopefulness with which the legislation will be imbued.
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:12:09pm |
re: #485 OldLineTexan
My oldest female cousin was an extra in that. She and her husband at the time apparently spent too much time there ...
What happened after spending too much time there?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:12:21pm |
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:12:25pm |
re: #461 OldLineTexan
I was born in '62 ... "Boomer" ends at '64 in most definitions ... I worked my way through school, competed for jobs on my own merits, etc., other boring middle-aged white guy stuff like that.
Then we're the same age - I guess I thought "old" in your nic meant older than me. I did all that stuff too, and so did my husband. We've been blessed in some ways, but every time we seem to get a little ahead financially, something happens and we're back at square one. I'm not blaming the older baby boomers or anyone else, but it's frustrating when you're working hard but you never seem to get ahead. And now the Democrats seem determined to take what little we have.
| 499 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:12:39pm |
Well, I'll be gall durned, we must have missed this... an article on June 8th, 2009 says that there will be 600,000 jobs created this summer...
Obama Promises More Than 600,000 Stimulus Jobs...
I dare ANYONE, in the government or out of the government to show us ANY tracking of where the stimulus money has gone, and how it has directly effected job growth.
How about something simple. Company A got "x" amount of money and they hired "x" amount of new employees, Repeat.
[Link: www.thedenverchannel.com...]
| 500 |
windhorse Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:12:45pm |
....and, no - my Dad only died once last year.....
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Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:12:47pm |
re: #455 Idle Drifter
I just want my $20.61 an hour oilfield job back. I was a low level tech with 4 months short of 3 years with the comapny and looking forward to advancing onto other drilling tools and company schools before trying to make the jump into management. I better stop this rant, it's just boiling the blood.
Ooh, you're f*cked. Obama hates oil (and coal and natural gas and nuclear, and anything that makes a little bit of sense).
| 502 |
wee fury Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:13:18pm |
I'm now checking to see if I have been dinged UP for any of the 3 well thought out, intelligent, and thought provoking comments I have posted on this thread. . . Reload . . . Reload . . .Reload.
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:13:30pm |
re: #495 jaunte
We'll get tons of extra doctors because of the extra-doctor magic hopefulness with which the legislation will be imbued.
That reminds me of communist Chinese propaganda.
"Greater goodness of our leader Obama brings us extra-doctor magic hopefulness!"
Followed by the official communist Chinese dance routine.
//
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solomonpanting Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:13:43pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:13:52pm |
re: #499 Walter L. Newton
"gall durned"... Spencer's Mountain! Henry Fonda!
| 506 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:14:32pm |
re: #490 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My house is infested with meal moths. Been trying to get rid of them for three years. Starting to look like the basement of Jame Gumb's house in here.
I'm about to last resort. Bug Zapper in living room. Whaddya think?
Sit in the dark, that always works for me.
| 507 |
Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:14:42pm |
re: #492 OldLineTexan
You're one to talk, Mr. Virginia, or should I say THE MAN? ! ?
/
And damn proud of it. Despoiling the environment, oppressing the masses, plundering the wealth of third world countries. It's not just a job. It's a way of life.
(Actually, I haven't gotten around to the third world wealth plundering part yet. 0
| 508 |
David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:14:48pm |
re: #486 Killian Bundy
Pay $1+ trillion to insure another 10 million people, still leaving 25 million in the dust, and where are all the extra doctors going to come from, seriously? The math just does not work.
/[expletive deleted] that [expletive deleted]
Basic economics. Increase the demand without a concomitant increase in supply (and there's probably going to be a decrease in supply; who the hell will want to go to medical school when there are far more lucrative professions that don't require the cost and time commitment?), and prices rise.
| 509 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:14:53pm |
re: #494 Jim in Virginia
India and Russia.
There's already here.
/I like being able to schedule an appointment with my doctor a week out, online, and he only has so many 15/30 minute blocks in a day
| 510 |
Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:15:02pm |
Well folks, I watched one hour of "Gran Torino" and got bored and turned it off.
What the fuck is so great about this movie? It sucks.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:15:48pm |
re: #486 Killian Bundy
Pay $1+ trillion to insure another 10 million people, still leaving 25 million in the dust, and where are all the extra doctors going to come from, seriously? The math just does not work.
/[expletive deleted] that [expletive deleted]
I was thinking (I know, not a good idea). Physician salaries are basicallly regulated now by insurance companies via Medicare. . .
Is there any entity out there limiting how much lawyers can make?
| 512 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:16:01pm |
re: #510 Alouette
I haven't seen it yet, but it's on my Netflix "long wait" queue.
| 513 |
Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:16:04pm |
re: #510 Alouette
Well folks, I watched one hour of "Gran Torino" and got bored and turned it off.
What the fuck is so great about this movie? It sucks.
Try Hot Rod, 90ish minutes of stupid humor
| 514 |
Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:16:36pm |
re: #475 Jim in Virginia
You young whippersnapeprs dont know how good you have it. WhenI was young, we felt lucky to have four tv channels. We grew up without Walkmans, (IPODs? fuhgeddaboutit), cell phones, PCs, yadda yadda yadda. We had to walk to school in the snow and it was uphill both ways.
////
Upding for the Bill Cosby reference.
| 515 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:16:37pm |
re: #505 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
"gall durned"... Spencer's Mountain! Henry Fonda!
No education, Walter L. Newton.
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Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:17:01pm |
re: #502 wee fury
I'm now checking to see if I have been dinged UP for any of the 3 well thought out, intelligent, and thought provoking comments I have posted on this thread. . . Reload . . . Reload . . .Reload.
Karma whore!
| 517 |
Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:17:07pm |
re: #513 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Try Hot Rod, 90ish minutes of stupid humor
I think I'll watch "Blazing Saddles" again for about the gazillionth time. BEST. MOVIE. EVER.
| 518 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:17:08pm |
re: #488 Gus 802
I never did the university route. My first "real job" was around 1983 and I got 5.67 an hour. It was a start. Plus back then when you got a job it was a given that "people would tell you what to do" and that you may occasionally get yelled at for certain indiscretions.
I had a job at a hobby shop at age 15 ... the owners were crooks, and it was shuttered. $2.15/hr, IIRC.
I worked at a frickin' shoe store ... I can't stand around doing nothing, so I re-did the stockroom.
Left that "paradise" for a division of Woolworth's ... learned about unions there, as in picking up after their sorry asses.
Got my highest-paying job ($6.50/hr.) as a pipefitter's helper for a contractor at Amoco in Texas City. They got fired, we got let go.
Worked at Academy (sporting goods) through the rest of high school and on into college. No spring break, no Christmas break, etc.
Got a great break with a summer "internship" - $1200/mo.
Graduated and got a job offer and took it.
Put myself through graduate school at night when I realized I was not one of the "select" at that company.
Laid off in 1993, unemployed ten weeks, got an 11% raise in the new job, left in six months for another 10%...
Like I said, boring stuff.
| 519 |
solomonpanting Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:17:19pm |
re: #511 ggt
Is there any entity out there limiting how much lawyers can make?
The Dems, but they'd be undermining their base.
| 520 |
Irenicum Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:17:23pm |
re: #121 Racer X
That is amazing! I though my cat playing fetch was cool, but this is one cool cat!
| 521 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:17:24pm |
re: #506 Walter L. Newton
Sit in the dark, that always works for me.
JEWISH JOKE!
Q. How many Jewish Grandmothers does it take to screw in a lightbulb.
A. None. "Don't worry about me dahling, I'll just sit here in the dark. I don't want to be a bother. You have your own lives to live, I'll be dead soon enough anyway. No, don't worry........
| 522 |
David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:17:28pm |
re: #494 Jim in Virginia
India and Russia.
Yep. (Assuming they still see our country as the land of opportunity.) The UK imports 40% of its doctors.
| 523 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:17:56pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:18:17pm |
re: #510 Alouette
Well folks, I watched one hour of "Gran Torino" and got bored and turned it off.
What the fuck is so great about this movie? It sucks.
I thought it was awesome!
| 525 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:18:19pm |
re: #517 Alouette
Mongo just a pawn in the chess game of life.
| 526 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:18:51pm |
re: #499 Walter L. Newton
Well, I'll be gall durned, we must have missed this... an article on June 8th, 2009 says that there will be 600,000 jobs created this summer...
Obama Promises More Than 600,000 Stimulus Jobs...
No, no, no, he now promises to create or save jobs. Good luck disproving his claims.
/it's been a running joke for months now, get it?
| 527 |
Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:19:00pm |
re: #521 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
JEWISH JOKE!
Q. How many Jewish Grandmothers does it take to screw in a lightbulb.
A. None. "Don't worry about me dahling, I'll just sit here in the dark. I don't want to be a bother. You have your own lives to live, I'll be dead soon enough anyway. No, don't worry........
FAT BASTARD JOKE!
Q. How many fat bastards does it take to screw in a lightbulb.
A. Ye can't eat a lightbulb!
/Jewish grandmother
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Gearhead Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:19:01pm |
re: #502 wee fury
I'm now checking to see if I have been dinged UP for any of the 3 well thought out, intelligent, and thought provoking comments I have posted on this thread. . . Reload . . . Reload . . .Reload.
I never do that! Never ever. Ever.
Maybe a little.
| 529 |
Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:19:13pm |
re: #490 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My house is infested with meal moths. Been trying to get rid of them for three years. Starting to look like the basement of Jame Gumb's house in here.
I'm about to last resort. Bug Zapper in living room. Whaddya think?
Stop eating meals? :)
| 530 |
Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:19:43pm |
| 531 |
jaunte Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:19:55pm |
Summer jobs, pasting little "or saved" stickers into news stories about new jobs created.
| 532 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:20:02pm |
re: #524 ggt
I haven't seen Million Dollar Baby either (but I loved the It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia episode "Hundred Dollar Baby")
I've been meaning to see it since I've been doing some boxing training.
| 533 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:20:10pm |
re: #496 Gus 802
What happened after spending too much time there?
You end up in the crappy movie!
/
| 534 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:20:14pm |
re: #490 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My house is infested with meal moths. Been trying to get rid of them for three years. Starting to look like the basement of Jame Gumb's house in here.
I'm about to last resort. Bug Zapper in living room. Whaddya think?
Do you know any moonbats?
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windhorse Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:20:18pm |
like I have said many, many times before.... uhhh.... huh?
jobs? whas' that?
huh?
| 536 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:21:25pm |
re: #511 ggt
Is there any entity out there limiting how much lawyers can make?
The marketplace.
/and Obama recently told the AMA, no less, that we can forget about medical malpractice tort reform
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Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:21:27pm |
re: #501 Unakite
Ooh, you're f*cked. Obama hates oil (and coal and natural gas and nuclear, and anything that makes a little bit of sense).
Well, no, I'm not. I'm not completely dependant on the oilfield for a living as my trade skills can be used in other industries and services. Plus I'm not picky about the types of jobs.
| 538 |
Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:21:30pm |
re: #526 Killian Bundy
No, no, no, he now promises to create or save jobs. Good luck disproving his claims.
/it's been a running joke for months now, get it?
I enjoyed when they tried to note that after 6 months, they saw a slight decrease in the numbers of people getting unemployment. When I got laid off a few years ago, it was made clear to me on day 1 I had 6 months of benefits.
| 539 |
jaunte Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:21:41pm |
re: #490 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My house is infested with meal moths. Been trying to get rid of them for three years. Starting to look like the basement of Jame Gumb's house in here.
I'm about to last resort. Bug Zapper in living room. Whaddya think?
You need some small wildlife, toads, frogs, lizards, etc. to eat them. If you have a small fish pond in the back yard, the wildlife comes, and the bugs get eaten.
| 540 |
Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:22:02pm |
re: #490 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My house is infested with meal moths. Been trying to get rid of them for three years. Starting to look like the basement of Jame Gumb's house in here.
I'm about to last resort. Bug Zapper in living room. Whaddya think?
You need to locate the Queen Moth. She looks like this. They make their homes in crawlspaces or attics.
/
| 541 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:22:25pm |
re: #532 Mad Al-Jaffee
Day Man! Fighter of the Night Man!
Champion of the Sun!
Master of Karate and Friendship, for everyone!
| 542 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:22:29pm |
re: #488 Gus 802
I never did the university route. My first "real job" was around 1983 and I got 5.67 an hour. It was a start. Plus back then when you got a job it was a given that "people would tell you what to do" and that you may occasionally get yelled at for certain indiscretions.
BTW, you are spot on. You should see me trying to explain "job" to some people ...
| 543 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:22:44pm |
re: #518 OldLineTexan
Sounds like the way it used to be done. Or could be done. Funny how after they increased college aid that tuitions went up -- but that's a different story. I was getting 5.67 and drafting landing survey and was rather good at it.
Not to complain but these days kids want to graduate from college with a BA or BS and make over 35K with full bennies off the bat. Some do get that. It's been my experience that many aren't worth it since in the case of architecture they don't know their ass from their elbow regarding how to build an actual building. They are however well trained to create bullshit buildings to impress the art poser crowd.
One thing they don't get is the way of the school of hard knocks. Working your way up the ladder. Not anymore since they've been drilled into their heads that they are "all worthy" and all "empowered" even though they have a) yet to prove that or b) earn their way up the career ladder.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:23:07pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:23:19pm |
re: #532 Mad Al-Jaffee
I haven't seen Million Dollar Baby either (but I loved the It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia episode "Hundred Dollar Baby")
I've been meaning to see it since I've been doing some boxing training.
It's a lot like Mystic River in that it is kind of haunting. Very well done in every respect.
| 547 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:23:46pm |
re: #536 Killian Bundy
The marketplace.
/and Obama recently told the AMA, no less, that we can forget about medical malpractice tort reform
Somehow I think the marketplace is being manipulated in the favor of lawyers.
| 549 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:24:22pm |
| 550 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:24:39pm |
re: #541 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Day Man! Fighter of the Night Man!
Champion of the Sun!
Master of Karate and Friendship, for everyone!
You forgot the Ah Aaaaahhh!
| 551 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:24:58pm |
re: #543 Gus 802
I have almost no hope of sending my bright 16 yo daughter to my alma mater. Tuition is 20x what it was when I went to school.
| 552 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:25:05pm |
re: #550 Mad Al-Jaffee
That's the second verse.
| 553 |
David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:25:08pm |
re: #536 Killian Bundy
Obama recently told the AMA, no less, that we can forget about medical malpractice tort reform
There was some minor booing when he said that, but in the end, they just couldn't help loving him.
/vomit
| 554 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:25:12pm |
re: #549 Walter L. Newton
Do they look like this...
[Link: www.godzillaondvd.com...]
Call in the Air force.
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jorline Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:25:21pm |
re: #465 OldLineTexan
Imagine a barn full of drunks with a bar every fifteen feet.
True story. I lived in Houston during the Urban Cowboy era. Back in 1981, my new wife and I had a visitor we met during our honeymoon in the Cayman Islands. He stayed with us for a week and insisted on going to Gilley's and riding the bull. We tried to discourage him, but it didn't do any good.
We got him and proceeded to the bull...the bull ride operator was not a happy camper.
Yes, he is a foreigner.
Yes, he has an accent.
No, he is not white.
Please, don't hurt him.
It was a short ride, but the stories he went home to tell....
| 556 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:25:34pm |
re: #545 DEZes
Its that big? hell I'd use a 20 gauge on it.
You'll ruin the steaks. Go for a headshot.
| 557 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:25:51pm |
re: #551 OldLineTexan
I have almost no hope of sending my bright 16 yo daughter to my alma mater. Tuition is 20x what it was when I went to school.
20X? Wow.
| 558 |
jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:25:59pm |
Missile experts see Soviet parts in NKorean rocket
But the scientists say that if North Korea does have such a Russian-made ballistic missile in its arsenal, it could modify the rocket into a two-stage missile that could reach Seattle, Wash., carrying a 900-kilogram warhead, or San Francisco carrying a 700-kilogram charge.
900kg = 1985 lbs. 1 ton, general considered sufficient for a nuclear warhead.
Maybe the 4th in Seattle we'll have a real fireworks show!
| 559 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:26:08pm |
re: #546 ggt
I liked Mystic River a lot. I re-read the book after seeing the movie and enjoyed it even more. I'll have to add that to my queue.
| 560 |
Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:26:08pm |
re: #542 OldLineTexan
My first job was at Woolworths. Unloading trucks, stocking shelves, mopping the floor, and my favorite part, cleaning bathrooms. blech.
| 561 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:26:20pm |
So, when we participate in vanity reloading, we are doing "wee fury reloading"?
| 562 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:26:36pm |
re: #551 OldLineTexan
I have almost no hope of sending my bright 16 yo daughter to my alma mater. Tuition is 20x what it was when I went to school.
Keeps out the riff-raff.
| 563 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:27:10pm |
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Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:27:14pm |
re: #548 Iron Fist
Woo Hoo! I've always felt deprived that I didn't get to live through the Cuban Missile Crisis. I didn't get to see Saint Kennedy work his magic on a hapless Khrushchev (Khrushchev and other Communists weren't evil nor were they in charge of an Evil Empire. What a positively boorish thought), and end the threat of nuclear annihilation forever. Well, at least until that cowboy Reagan got in office and upset the Russians so much that they collapsed their economy in anger and frustration.
[/if you think I needed this, report to the nearest joy camp for direct cortical stimulation]
My father had fond memories of it. He was on a troopship waiting to see if they would get to invade Cuba. He said the best part was when the whole ship got diarhea and they had to crap off the side of the boat. They got met by firefighting tugs to hose the ship off when they returned to port.
| 565 |
Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:27:15pm |
re: #551 OldLineTexan
I have almost no hope of sending my bright 16 yo daughter to my alma mater. Tuition is 20x what it was when I went to school.
I have noticed that tuition has outpaced income over the past decades. I wonder why?
| 566 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:27:41pm |
time is running short foe BO...the stimulus has not worked, his new bill is under fire...unemployment and inflation are on the rise...he's been slapped by the Iranians and has conversely butted in on the Honduras thing on the wrong side...he has to face down a very tough Putin next week, and he's committed deep into Afghanistan where there is danger of prolonged stalemate...his cred is slowly eroding...he is over exposing himself in the media yet has no answers for anything....everything he touches he fucks up and he has exposed himself as a laughable amateur....50-50 says the country will be calling for his head by the end of the year...
| 567 |
Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:27:43pm |
re: #537 Idle Drifter
Well, no, I'm not. I'm not completely dependant on the oilfield for a living as my trade skills can be used in other industries and services. Plus I'm not picky about the types of jobs.
Cool. Good luck.
| 569 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:28:47pm |
re: #565 Idle Drifter
I have noticed that tuition has outpaced income over the past decades. I wonder why?
Ironically, more financial aid. When students have access to more funds, including loans, the colleges realize they can jack up the price. Hey, someone has to pay for all those campus diversity officers.
| 570 |
wee fury Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:28:51pm |
I was just teasing -- but, here is something --For all the dingers -- :-)
| 571 |
Kragar Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:29:04pm |
re: #566 albusteve
And we'll still be stuck with him till 2012
| 572 |
Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:29:08pm |
re: #556 OldLineTexan
You'll ruin the steaks. Go for a headshot.
re: #563 DEZes
out comes the .222.
Don't they use an air spike these days?
| 573 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:29:30pm |
re: #552 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sneaky and mean
Spider inside my dreams
I think I love you
You make me wanna cry, you make me wanna die
I love you, I love you , I love you , I love you, I love you.
Night Man
Every night you come into my room and pin me down with your strong arms
You pin me down down and I try to fight you
you come inside me and fill me up…
Just two men sharing the night
It might seem wrong but it’s just right
It’s just two men sharing each other
It’s just two men like loving brothers
One on top, and one on bottom
One inside, and one is out
One is screaming he’s so happy
The other’s screaming a passionate shout
It’s the Night Man
The feeling so wrong it’s right man
the feeling so wrong…
I can’t fight you man when you come inside me and pin me down your strong hands and I’ll become the Night….the passionate, passionate Night Man.
| 574 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:29:31pm |
Goodnight my Lizard friends.
You too, Walter.
| 575 |
Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:29:33pm |
| 576 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:29:34pm |
re: #566 albusteve
time is running short foe BO...the stimulus has not worked, his new bill is under fire...unemployment and inflation are on the rise...he's been slapped by the Iranians and has conversely butted in on the Honduras thing on the wrong side...he has to face down a very tough Putin next week, and he's committed deep into Afghanistan where there is danger of prolonged stalemate...his cred is slowly eroding...he is over exposing himself in the media yet has no answers for anything....everything he touches he fucks up and he has exposed himself as a laughable amateur....50-50 says the country will be calling for his head by the end of the year...
...and the price of cigarettes went up.
| 577 |
jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:29:45pm |
Selling Fireworks with extra sizzle!
For many, bikini-clad women and fireworks stands are sure signs that summer is here. But some Puyallup citizens say the two don't belong together.
| 578 |
Ojoe Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:30:00pm |
re: #394 Pvt Bin Jammin
Altadena! What memories! & there was a school called Flintridge.
| 579 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:30:01pm |
re: #547 ggt
Somehow I think the marketplace is being manipulated in the favor of lawyers.
/in all fairness, you usually only need a lawyer a few times in life, you probably don't need insurance for that, you should see a doctor at least once a year, more frequently if and when you get sick
| 580 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:30:06pm |
re: #557 Gus 802
20X? Wow.
Ask Jim in Virginia. I paid (max) $1800/semester, which was a damned fortune at the time. I lived off-campus though.
I think tuition alone is $36K/yr now, and you can add to that for room and board. (Well, OK, room and bucket ... the cuisine was never stellar).
| 581 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:30:15pm |
re: #573 Mad Al-Jaffee
I take it, you're a fan?
| 582 |
jaunte Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:30:24pm |
re: #566 albusteve
If even Helen Thomas has begun to have doubts, maybe so.
| 583 |
Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:30:32pm |
| 584 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:30:42pm |
re: #572 Idle Drifter
Don't they use an air spike these days?
This aint no slaughter house.
Besides I wanna hear a report.
| 585 |
Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:30:58pm |
re: #569 doppelganglander
Ironically, more financial aid. When students have access to more funds, including loans, the colleges realize they can jack up the price. Hey, someone has to pay for all those campus diversity officers.
Plus they get to keep the more useless Professors in even more useless classes.
| 586 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:31:32pm |
re: #565 Idle Drifter
I have noticed that tuition has outpaced income over the past decades. I wonder why?
I always thought that the Sports programs when profitable were suppossed to help support the rest of the school?
Tuition, IMHO, has outpaced income because major Universities have decided they really aren't in the business of education or furthering of knowledge. They own stocks, international property and are generally in a not-for-profit business with an agenda. Nice job if you can get it.
| 587 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:31:35pm |
re: #575 Jim in Virginia
You're not getting your bonus check?
I got it, it was taxed at 150 percent, for the children.
| 588 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:31:39pm |
re: #581 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I take it, you're a fan?
Hell yeah! After seeing about two episodes I bought the season 1 and 2 dvds. The last season was hit or miss, but still very funny.
| 589 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:31:48pm |
re: #572 Idle Drifter
Don't they use an air spike these days?
That's at the slaughterhouse or in a Cohen Bros. movie. We're hunting!
/
| 590 |
jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:31:50pm |
re: #565 Idle Drifter
I have noticed that tuition has outpaced income over the past decades. I wonder why?
More and more aid. They can raise tuition and the money will flow in.
| 591 |
Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:32:14pm |
| 592 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:32:15pm |
re: #580 OldLineTexan
Ask Jim in Virginia. I paid (max) $1800/semester, which was a damned fortune at the time. I lived off-campus though.
I think tuition alone is $36K/yr now, and you can add to that for room and board. (Well, OK, room and bucket ... the cuisine was never stellar).
Cost of living was less I'm sure. Lefties managed to drive the cost of living up as they always do. They also accomplished to raise the cost of housing. I know that it is true that tuition has gone up as college aid increased -- grants, loans, etc.
| 593 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:32:55pm |
| 594 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:33:02pm |
re: #576 Walter L. Newton
...and the price of cigarettes went up.
It's for the children!
//
I came back from the store before. 5.09 for a cheap pack of Pall Malls.
| 595 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:34:09pm |
re: #579 Killian Bundy
/in all fairness, you usually only need a lawyer a few times in life, you probably don't need insurance for that, you should see a doctor at least once a year, more frequently if and when you get sick
I don't know Killian. . . . I think, perhaps, there would be a lot more justice if lawyers were affordable.
| 596 |
windhorse Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:34:37pm |
....and I just received a sales call from DIRECT TV at 8:32pm.....
America.....
| 597 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:34:40pm |
re: #560 Mich-again
My first job was at Woolworths. Unloading trucks, stocking shelves, mopping the floor, and my favorite part, cleaning bathrooms. blech.
It was a bastard spawn called "J. Brannam's". Discount clothes. And yep, all of the above.
I have a particularly disgusting bathroom cleaning story. Takers?
| 598 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:35:00pm |
re: #594 Gus 802
It's for the children!
//
I came back from the store before. 5.09 for a cheap pack of Pall Malls.
My nephew said the other day, anyone who wont smoke is selfish, cause its for da children.
Yeah he is a smart ass too.
| 599 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:35:12pm |
re: #82 HoosierHoops
Cog had his chance....He was banned once but Charles let him back because he brought an edge to the room........Which was cool.Charles is a fair man..
upon reinstatement he was cool for awhile...Then he just had to be a dickhead to everybody....
After a while it was obvious that Cog was going the way of the dinosaurs...
You reading this Cog? Dumbass...Charles gave you an inch and you took a mile..Dumbass...Need a sock puppet reg?
For pretending to be so smart.Cog you are so dumb.....
I actually made a chronicle of Cog's second banning but I can't find it now.
| 600 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:36:05pm |
re: #580 OldLineTexan
Ask Jim in Virginia. I paid (max) $1800/semester, which was a damned fortune at the time. I lived off-campus though.
I think tuition alone is $36K/yr now, and you can add to that for room and board. (Well, OK, room and bucket ... the cuisine was never stellar).
If your daughter is in the market for a wonderful small liberal arts college in a small city in North Georgia, I can make a recommendation. My oldest daughter graduated with only $16K in debt. She got merit-based financial aid and we paid the rest, but sticker price is only around $24K for tuition.
| 601 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:36:14pm |
re: #599 Dark_Falcon
I actually made a chronicle of Cog's second banning but I can't find it now.
The chronicles of gonia.
| 602 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:36:21pm |
re: #598 DEZes
My nephew said the other day, anyone who wont smoke is selfish, cause its for da children.
Yeah he is a smart ass too.
Nice! Yeah, some people need to be reminded that smokers are footing the bill for SCHIP.
| 603 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:36:32pm |
When did Cog get banned? I've been gone.
| 604 |
jorline Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:36:33pm |
Infomercials won't be the same without Billy Mays.
Does this mean the "Sham Wow" guy will be the new OxiClean/Mighty Putty pitchman?
So much has changed under Obama.
| 605 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:36:44pm |
re: #598 DEZes
My nephew said the other day, anyone who wont smoke is selfish, cause its for da children.
Yeah he is a smart ass too.
Did ya slap him down? 'Cuz he ain't gonna learn elsewise!
/
| 606 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:36:51pm |
re: #553 David Simon
There was some minor booing when he said that, but in the end, they just couldn't help loving him.
/vomit
Yes, we'll do everything imaginable to cut health care costs, except prevent lawyers from suing the ever loving [expletive deleted] out of doctors, whether it's merited or not.
/no wonder doctors choose not to practice medicine in the face of malpractice insurance rates
| 607 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:15pm |
re: #597 OldLineTexan
It was a bastard spawn called "J. Brannam's". Discount clothes. And yep, all of the above.
I have a particularly disgusting bathroom cleaning story. Takers?
We are flush with anticipation.
| 608 |
Idle Drifter Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:24pm |
re: #589 OldLineTexan
That's at the slaughterhouse or in a Cohen Bros. movie. We're hunting!
/
All for a moth.
| 609 |
subsailor68 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:28pm |
We're so sorry we're late to this thread. We would have read all the posts above, but - quite frankly - that would have only bored us, because we'd have had to pretend we cared about the opinions of everyone between post 1 and this - our first post.
We guess the point is - what was the purpose of the thread? We just don't quite understand why someone would have the presumption to post this kind of thing - do we dear? - (No, dear, of course not).
We mean, what's the point of all of this? Munchausen smunchausen, what's it all about? Anonymity on the Internet, really? We've always posted using our real names, Fred1023X$ and Ethel1178Pi1. How much clearer could we be?
The internet is simply another way for us to be as honest as we are in our day-to-day interactions with our fellow residents.
Hey, what are you doing? No, stop. I don't want to go to bed yet! Who are you? What are you doing? What's that in the little white paper cup? No, please....I don't want to take that. HHMMMM! Not swallowing! Ha! Hey, don't do that! Stop massaging my throat. I'm not gonna swallow .......
Hello, my name is Phillip. I'm so sorry that subsailor stayed up so long after his bedtime. Please rest assured that he's fine, sleeping like a baby, and will be much better in the morning. Please excuse me, but it's time to get back to my rounds here at Shady Crack.
| 610 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:37pm |
re: #558 jcm
Missile experts see Soviet parts in NKorean rocket
900kg = 1985 lbs. 1 ton, general considered sufficient for a nuclear warhead.
Maybe the 4th in Seattle we'll have a real fireworks show!
Newsflash:
Seattle is reeling today 3 months after the devastating nuclear strike from North Korea. Authorities have raised the death toll to nearly 20,000. Another 100,000 were injured during the ensuing evacuations. Hospitals all along the West coast and as far East as Denver are overwhelmed. FEMA has no timetable on relocating the remaining 2.7 million people still trying to evacuate the hot zone.
No word from the white House yet on exactly what actions will be taken in response.
| 611 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:37:56pm |
re: #605 OldLineTexan
Did ya slap him down? 'Cuz he ain't gonna learn elsewise!
/
We both lit up, fo da children.
| 614 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:38:22pm |
re: #600 doppelganglander
If your daughter is in the market for a wonderful small liberal arts college in a small city in North Georgia, I can make a recommendation. My oldest daughter graduated with only $16K in debt. She got merit-based financial aid and we paid the rest, but sticker price is only around $24K for tuition.
Lay it on me, but I am encouraging her interest in electrical engineering.
| 615 |
windhorse Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:38:56pm |
....my first job was dish washing at Carver's on the Lake..... $1.15 per hour.... followed by a job down at the marina pumping Ethel for $1.35.....
....then..... upon graduating high school... and no future in sight (ie. no help with college) I worked at Penney's for $2.54 per hour.... for a year and a half....
(and my dad would tell me of working at Sears for 8-cents per hour....)
/isn't their someone I can sue?
| 616 |
Gearhead Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:39:45pm |
re: #604 jorline
Infomercials won't be the same without Billy Mays.
Does this mean the "Sham Wow" guy will be the new OxiClean/Mighty Putty pitchman?
So much has changed under Obama.
Vince here for Obama-Care.
You're gonna love my copay.
| 617 |
Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:39:54pm |
re: #586 ggt
I always thought that the Sports programs when profitable were suppossed to help support the rest of the school?
Bwahahahaha!
Not my alma mater. 70,000 seat stadium. The seats are in perfect condition, most have never been used.
| 618 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:39:57pm |
I simply refuse to believe BO will dodge having to face the citizens of this country and explain himself...the media will not ride a bad horse and when his numbers continue to fall they will have to cover their ass...GOP leadership absolutely must get going and win back the House next year...I'm at the edge...I have been fucked around long enough by the feds...if this mess shows no sign of getting cleaned up next year...if this phony hero worship nonsense does not stop. if BO gets a pass on his corrupt and harmful legislation, I'm gonna kiss off and head for the beach....I have one last fallback option...I do not want to live in BOs America...fuck that and fuck him
| 619 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:40:14pm |
re: #610 Racer X
Newsflash:
Seattle is reeling today 3 months after the devastating nuclear strike from North Korea. Authorities have raised the death toll to nearly 20,000. Another 100,000 were injured during the ensuing evacuations. Hospitals all along the West coast and as far East as Denver are overwhelmed. FEMA has no timetable on relocating the remaining 2.7 million people still trying to evacuate the hot zone.
No word from the white House yet on exactly what actions will be taken in response.
Weeks later.
The North Korean leadership has indicated that the nuclear strike was in error and has offered their apologies to the United States. We have word now that the president has accepted this apology (along with the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi) from the North Koreans and that no military action will be taken due to this event.
| 620 |
Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:40:23pm |
re: #602 Gus 802
Nice! Yeah, some people need to be reminded that smokers are footing the bill for SCHIP.
In the future everyone will use a biometric card to buy food. From your thumb print, the card will calculate your BMI and calculate what food you are allowed to buy.
Your BMI is 35? No beer and ice cream for you! No cheeseburgers! In fact your allotment of food is suspended for the next 5 days, except bottled water and vitamins for your fast.
Your BMI is 30? You can buy beer and ice cream but it's 30 minutes on the treadmill for each can of Bud Lite and each 1/2 cup of Ben & Jerry's or you can't buy any next time.
| 621 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:40:28pm |
re: #414 jorline
Obama meets his match in Russia?
This seems apropos at this time.
/
To say that Obama has met his match is to insult Vladimir Putin. Putin vs. Obama is a massive overmatch in Putin's favor, because Putin actually knows how the world works.
| 622 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:40:29pm |
I'm gonna watch some South Park and go to bed. Or, as Cartman would say, screw you guys, I'm going home.
| 623 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:40:39pm |
re: #615 windhorse
.... followed by a job down at the marina pumping Ethel for $1.35.....
You in a heap of trouble, boy ... Fred showed up at 609, and Ethel's with him.
/
| 624 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:40:43pm |
| 626 |
Jim in Virginia Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:41:04pm |
re: #597 OldLineTexan
It was a bastard spawn called "J. Brannam's". Discount clothes. And yep, all of the above.
I have a particularly disgusting bathroom cleaning story. Takers?
No.
No no no no no.
| 627 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:41:34pm |
re: #617 Jim in Virginia
Bwahahahaha!
Not my alma mater. 70,000 seat stadium. The seats are in perfect condition, most have never been used.
They changed out the wooden ones, no more getting your girlfriend naked with the old "check your ass for splinters" ploy.
/
| 628 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:41:53pm |
re: #620 Alouette
In the future everyone will use a biometric card to buy food. From your thumb print, the card will calculate your BMI and calculate what food you are allowed to buy.
Your BMI is 35? No beer and ice cream for you! No cheeseburgers! In fact your allotment of food is suspended for the next 5 days, except bottled water and vitamins for your fast.
Your BMI is 30? You can buy beer and ice cream but it's 30 minutes on the treadmill for each can of Bud Lite and each 1/2 cup of Ben & Jerry's or you can't buy any next time.
I think that's very plausible and can readily be done by an increasing Nanny State. It will be done "for the greater good" and of course pushed by the Socialist Democrat Party.
| 629 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:42:21pm |
re: #627 OldLineTexan
They changed out the wooden ones, no more getting your girlfriend naked with the old "check your ass for splinters" ploy.
/
Well son of a ..........
| 630 |
Gearhead Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:42:23pm |
re: #610 Racer X
No word from the white House yet on exactly what actions will be taken in response.
Every administration has its defining quotation. That may be Obama's.
| 631 |
jorline Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:42:45pm |
re: #621 Dark_Falcon
To say that Obama has met his match is to insult Vladimir Putin. Putin vs. Obama is a massive overmatch in Putin's favor, because Putin actually knows how the world works.
Ex-Community Organizer vs. Ex-KGB
No contest!
| 632 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:43:14pm |
re: #614 OldLineTexan
Lay it on me, but I am encouraging her interest in electrical engineering.
It's Berry College. If your daughter has an interest in engineering, however, by all means encourage her! I am trying to convince my younger daughter that Georgia Tech is the place to be. She won't even consider the engineering programs, though. Believe it or not, they have a liberal arts college. Even that has a technology slant, though, so I'm hopeful she would be employable if she goes there.
| 634 |
Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:43:21pm |
| 635 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:43:31pm |
| 636 |
windhorse Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:43:36pm |
re: #623 OldLineTexan
.....yeah.... that was at the hyper inflated "marina" price per gallon of 40-cents per gallon!
| 637 |
wee fury Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:44:12pm |
Saving money on college tuition --
2 years at a Junior College. Get all pre-req's out of the way.
2 years at University -- in your major.
It can be done in 4 years. Lots of tuition money saved.
| 638 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:44:33pm |
| 640 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:45:07pm |
| 641 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:45:20pm |
Good evening y'all - I know I'm very late to this thread, but I must say I LOVED that article about how the Internet makes people crazy!
But I disagree with the premise - I think folks who fit into one or more of the crazy cases are in fact crazy as loons - and the Internet just gives them a way to express that craziness safely.
But other than that, what all are we talking about?
| 642 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:45:22pm |
| 643 |
jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:45:39pm |
re: #637 wee fury
Saving money on college tuition --
2 years at a Junior College. Get all pre-req's out of the way.
2 years at University -- in your major.
It can be done in 4 years. Lots of tuition money saved.
That's what I did.
| 644 |
Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:45:53pm |
re: #623 OldLineTexan
You in a heap of trouble, boy ... Fred showed up at 609, and Ethel's with him.
/
Yeah, but she was cheap...
| 645 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:46:09pm |
| 646 |
Clemente Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:46:28pm |
re: #615 windhorse
...
/isn't their someone I can sue?
Well, I've got a ham sandwich with no lawyer, plenty of bread, and a pretty bleak future...
| 647 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:46:39pm |
re: #637 wee fury
Saving money on college tuition --
2 years at a Junior College. Get all pre-req's out of the way.
2 years at University -- in your major.
It can be done in 4 years. Lots of tuition money saved.
that's what I did, but I took a gap year - actually, 13 years - between community college and four-year college.
| 648 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:46:54pm |
The last couple of days I've actually been watching non-CSPAN TV. Been seeing lots of ads for these guys. You know, I really find the company name disturbing.
| 650 |
Gearhead Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:47:00pm |
| 651 |
jaunte Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:47:06pm |
re: #641 realwest
Hi realwest. We have Obama fatigue, bathroom puns, and college tuition on the program.
| 652 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:47:10pm |
| 653 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:47:16pm |
re: #641 realwest
Good evening y'all - I know I'm very late to this thread, but I must say I LOVED that article about how the Internet makes people crazy!
But I disagree with the premise - I think folks who fit into one or more of the crazy cases are in fact crazy as loons - and the Internet just gives them a way to express that craziness safely.
But other than that, what all are we talking about?
toilet talk
| 654 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:47:28pm |
| 655 |
Clemente Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:47:29pm |
| 656 |
sngnsgt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:47:38pm |
| 658 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:48:01pm |
| 659 |
Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:48:03pm |
| 661 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:48:25pm |
| 662 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:48:37pm |
| 664 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:48:54pm |
re: #643 jcm Hey jcm! I sorta did the same thing - completed 2 years at a four year institution and was then invited by said institution to not return.
So I worked for two years, saved enough dough to go back to another 4 year school, got credit for one of the years I spent at the first school and took 3 years to finish. But I saved a bundle on that one years tuition!
| 665 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:48:54pm |
| 667 |
Clemente Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:49:05pm |
| 670 |
windhorse Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:49:38pm |
.....and later, after I finally made it into college... I would work summers for xxxxx combining peas.... and my boss Orin xxxx would drive around in his white Ford pick up truck.... on Monday, his truck was clean. Each day would progress as he spat his "juice" from the driver's side window..... Day one would be a few brown streaks..... Day two several more.... by Friday, his door would be brown......
-then start all over....
/I know - who cares.....
| 672 |
David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:49:40pm |
re: #606 Killian Bundy
Yes, we'll do everything imaginable to cut health care costs, except prevent lawyers from suing the ever loving [expletive deleted] out of doctors, whether it's merited or not.
/no wonder doctors choose not to practice medicine in the face of malpractice insurance rates
My state (Illinois) is one of the worst offenders.
Amazing, but California(!) actually has a cap on "damages" for "pain and suffering."
| 673 |
jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:50:04pm |
re: #664 realwest
Hey jcm! I sorta did the same thing - completed 2 years at a four year institution and was then invited by said institution to not return.
So I worked for two years, saved enough dough to go back to another 4 year school, got credit for one of the years I spent at the first school and took 3 years to finish. But I saved a bundle on that one years tuition!
How much did it cost to replace the chem lab?
| 675 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:50:42pm |
re: #651 jaunte
Hi realwest. We have Obama fatigue, bathroom puns, and college tuition on the program.
Ah, oldies but goodies, eh? LOL! Well which one are you on - or are you on all three?
| 677 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:51:03pm |
re: #673 jcm
How much did it cost to replace the chem lab?
His sense of smell came back after only three years.
| 681 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:51:29pm |
| 683 |
David Simon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:52:07pm |
re: #621 Dark_Falcon
To say that Obama has met his match is to insult Vladimir Putin. Putin vs. Obama is a massive overmatch in Putin's favor, because Putin actually knows how the world works.
I think you mean Medvedev. Or was it a Freudian slip? ;->
| 684 |
Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:52:08pm |
| 685 |
Clemente Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:52:10pm |
| 686 |
subsailor68 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:53:02pm |
Hi! The pills wore off and Phillip's in another part of the ward! Hope everyone is fine. Won't be here long, because I'm off to buy some very important things! I need some foodstuffs, some linens, some clothes, some new shoes, and I don't believe I should have to pay for any of them! That's why, when I'm in England, I shop at:
Marx and Spencer.
(Sigh. It's Phillip again. I came back and subsailor seems to be awake again. I'll give him another dose, and he should be fine for the rest of the night. If he shows up again, please feel free to taser his dumb a.....well, you know what I mean.)
| 687 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:53:08pm |
re: #681 ggt
You saying we need an anti-septic?
We are on a roll, but the paper trail must be thin, or they will bust this joint wide open.
| 688 |
Gearhead Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:53:09pm |
I had no idea you people were so effluent in plumbing lingo.
| 689 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:53:37pm |
re: #687 DEZes
We are on a roll, but the paper trail must be thin, or they will bust this joint wide open.
I might have to throw in the towel.
| 690 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:53:46pm |
re: #688 Gearhead
I had no idea you people were so effluent in plumbing lingo.
Yes, we are fully flatulated.
| 691 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:53:50pm |
re: #673 jcm
LOL! No, it wasn't the Chem Lab! I was the Social Chairman of my fraternity and figured I owed it to my brothers to spend all my waking moments (other than those spent with young women) searching out live musical entertainment in bars. Think Animal House squared!
| 692 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:53:51pm |
re: #637 wee fury
Saving money on college tuition --
2 years at a Junior College. Get all pre-req's out of the way.
2 years at University -- in your major.
It can be done in 4 years. Lots of tuition money saved.
/you'd better graduate with a practical, non-bull[expletive deleted] degree if you want to get a job
| 693 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:54:12pm |
re: #687 DEZes
We are on a roll, but the paper trail must be thin, or they will bust this joint wide open.
You wanna start using corn cobs?
| 694 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:54:27pm |
| 695 |
wee fury Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:54:31pm |
My first job was de-tasseling corn. It was hot and dirty work. The fields were infested with crawly things and humungous spiders.
| 696 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:56:27pm |
| 697 |
sngnsgt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:56:29pm |
| 698 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:56:47pm |
re: #692 Killian Bundy
/you'd better graduate with a practical, non-bull[expletive deleted] degree if you want to get a job
yup, decide early and stay focused...there is plenty you can do to improve job prospects before you even graduate...volunteer work, contacts to make...be smart...my daughter had several sweet job offers before she finished up
| 699 |
capitalist piglet Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:56:48pm |
re: #695 wee fury
My first job was de-tasseling corn. It was hot and dirty work. The fields were infested with crawly things and humungous spiders.
My first job was singing and playing guitar in the lounge at a ski resort. My boss was mob-connected, and the bartender disappeared after a few weeks.
| 700 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:57:13pm |
re: #695 wee fury
My first job was de-tasseling corn. It was hot and dirty work. The fields were infested with crawly things and humungous spiders.
I'm so glad I never de-tasseled corn. I heard horror stories about it. Although Cindy Crawford de-tasseled corn. Perhaps I missed something. I too could be tall and gorgeous, if only I'd detasseled corn.
| 701 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:57:21pm |
re: #695 wee fury
My first job was de-tasseling corn. It was hot and dirty work. The fields were infested with crawly things and humungous spiders.
What about those who ensured you had lotsa' iced tea or lemon-ade? Did they make a bit of difference?
| 702 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:57:24pm |
| 703 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:57:38pm |
re: #695 wee fury
My first job was de-tasseling corn. It was hot and dirty work. The fields were infested with crawly things and humungous spiders.
This is why I went to school. At work today, I ran some tests on a storage system and covered a couple of minor technical issues with my customers. Then I had Japanese food for lunch, finished up, and went out for a beer. No spiders.
| 704 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:57:46pm |
| 705 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:57:49pm |
I finally found my chronicle of Cognito's second banning. For brevity I'm only going to link to the first two entries. I'll repost the last two:
Cognito's Last Meltdown, Part 3
Comment 440: MandyManners quotes a massively downdinged and very nasty comment that Cog posted in January as a way of calling attention to Cog's bad behavior.
Comment 447: Cognito says that Mandy took him out of context.
Comment 453: Dark_Falcon invites Cog to supply the context.
Comment 467: HoosierHoops warns Cognito about his present course and advises him to chill out.
Comment 472: Cognito again waves DF off.
Comment 475: Sharmuta calls Cognito on his refusal to supply context.
Comment 483: Cognito answers Hoosier with a big, fat, lie.
Comment 487: Sharmuta calls Cognito on his BS answer to Hoosier.
Comment 526: buzzsawmonkey puts in a conciliatory comment in an attempt to cool things down.
Comment 541: Cognito answers BSM with a snarky comment.
to be concluded in part 4.
Cognito's Last Meltdown, Part 4: The End of Cognito
Comment 604: Cognito issues his statement of beliefs regarding evolution.
Comment 611: Dark_Falcon praise cog's answer, hoping to end the confrontation.
Comment 621: Charles replies to Cognito, disbelieving his #604 and quoting a comment to bolster his case.
Comment 633: Cognito makes his final mistake. Ignoring all prior warnings, he posts a dismissive response to Charles.
Comment 643: Charles hurls aloft the great banstick Clue-by-Four and smotes Cognito deep into the earth.
Comment 647: Charles backhands Cog's defenders for falling for Cog's malarky.
Comment 677: Charles remarks about what Cognito did to anger him.
Comment 686: Dark_Falcon apologizes for his defense of Cognito and offers his own view of Cognito's actions.
The End
| 706 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:58:03pm |
re: #699 capitalist piglet
Was that bartender perchance short changing the owner every night!
| 707 |
windhorse Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:58:17pm |
re: #695 wee fury
in the land of Musk0hawks........ (instead of Mosquitoes)
| 708 |
wee fury Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:58:35pm |
re: #699 capitalist piglet
My first job was singing and playing guitar in the lounge at a ski resort. My boss was mob-connected, and the bartender disappeared after a few weeks.
First jobs are so important. I knew I would never be a farmer and you knew you would never be a bartender. :-)
| 709 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:59:19pm |
My first job was baby-sitting and I swore I'd never be a parent.
I am a parent.
| 710 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:59:29pm |
| 711 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:59:37pm |
| 712 |
solomonpanting Thu, Jul 2, 2009 8:59:54pm |
re: #700 ggt
I'm so glad I never de-tasseled corn. I heard horror stories about it. Although Cindy Crawford de-tasseled corn. Perhaps I missed something. I too could be tall and gorgeous, if only I'd detasseled corn.
The downside is you have stalkers.
| 713 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:00:10pm |
re: #709 ggt
My first job was baby-sitting and I swore I'd never be a parent.
I am a parent.
Your own children are totally different.
| 714 |
subsailor68 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:00:18pm |
Okay guys, in all seriousness, I couldn't resist a couple of posts about internet disorders, but it truly is time for bed.
To all my friends here, please have a terrific Independence Day. Realwest, if you're still on board, may this be a wonderful holiday for you and your Mom!
Sometimes it's easy to look forward to a day of BBQ and fireworks, but I think I've found that the folks on this site are the ones who remember - more than many others - what this weekend really means.
As I said earlier, I also hope our lizard friends around the world will also, perhaps, take a moment - pour a glass - and celebrate our day with us.
God bless all!
| 715 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:00:21pm |
| 718 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:01:03pm |
re: #705 Dark_Falcon
Hey Dark_Falcon - um that was well done, but WTF made you decide to do the chronicles of Cognito? Or at least the Chronicles of Cognito's banning?
| 720 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:01:45pm |
| 722 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:02:02pm |
| 723 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:02:12pm |
| 724 |
jaunte Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:02:25pm |
My first non-lawnmowing job was as a stockboy at a Pier One. They paid me 50¢ more per hour to be a sign-maker for the store, and as a result it was covered with elaborately lettered signs. Once I found out I could get money for drawing and lettering, that's what I stayed focused on.
| 725 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:02:41pm |
| 726 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:03:20pm |
| 727 |
windhorse Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:03:26pm |
re: #719 Mich-again
....yeah.... I think I seen an add for a Congito somewhere back in the '80's.... It was a sleeping bag that you could crawl into and remain camoflaged.... or something.....
| 728 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:03:34pm |
re: #714 subsailor68
Hey sub! I had NO IDEA of what the hell you were doing or who Phillip was (is?) but as to your "God bless all!" I will say Amen, and get a good night's sleep!
| 729 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:03:51pm |
re: #722 Gus 802
I better washer it out myself.
If these puns get any worse, some one is gonna sewage us.
| 730 |
ArchangelMichael Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:03:52pm |
re: #718 realwest
Hey Dark_Falcon - um that was well done, but WTF made you decide to do the chronicles of Cognito? Or at least the Chronicles of Cognito's banning?
Burgess Meredith said it best at the end of Clash of the Titans when he said (paraphrased, I cant find the exact quote):
"This has the makings of an epic poem, or perhaps even a play!"
| 731 |
Gearhead Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:04:36pm |
re: #720 OldLineTexan
Ouch. That hurt.
I meant it as a compliment. I like the "and Charles smote him deep into the earth" part.
| 732 |
jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:04:49pm |
re: #691 realwest
LOL! No, it wasn't the Chem Lab! I was the Social Chairman of my fraternity and figured I owed it to my brothers to spend all my waking moments (other than those spent with young women) searching out live musical entertainment in bars. Think Animal House squared!
I nominate RW to be the entertainment chair for the next Lizard Ball!
| 733 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:04:52pm |
re: #727 windhorse
....yeah.... I think I seen an add for a Congito somewhere back in the '80's.... It was a sleeping bag that you could crawl into and remain camoflaged.... or something.....
Congito... sounds like he could have been a sidekick for Desi Arnez.
//Congito Sespuedes and his Allstar Band!
//
| 734 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:05:00pm |
I just shot my radio.
"The Obama Administration..."BLAM BLAM BLAM.
Desert Eagle .50. No armor-piercing shit.
| 735 |
OldLineTexan Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:05:18pm |
| 736 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:05:40pm |
re: #719 Mich-again
Whats a Cognito?
Now that's a silly question Mich! Everyone knows that old timey cars had cognitos to keep the pistons pumping - my Dad used to park his Ford Model A against a tree cause the cognitios were too hot and the engine wouldn't shut off.
| 737 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:05:45pm |
| 738 |
ArchangelMichael Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:05:55pm |
re: #734 MandyManners
I just shot my radio.
"The Obama Administration..."BLAM BLAM BLAM.
Desert Eagle .50. No armor-piercing shit.
Off to Joycamp with you Anticitizen!
| 739 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:05:58pm |
| 740 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:06:02pm |
re: #731 Gearhead
I meant it as a compliment. I like the "and Charles smote him deep into the earth" part.
asunder would be worth a point or two as well
| 741 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:06:12pm |
re: #734 MandyManners
I just shot my radio.
"The Obama Administration..."BLAM BLAM BLAM.
Desert Eagle .50. No armor-piercing shit.
If your busting caps from a desert eagle, you have some big hands.
hmmmmm...........
| 742 |
windhorse Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:06:16pm |
re: #733 Gus 802
(I admit that I tore a page from TFK's playbook there....)
| 743 |
sngnsgt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:06:28pm |
re: #734 MandyManners
I just shot my radio.
"The Obama Administration..."BLAM BLAM BLAM.
Desert Eagle .50. No armor-piercing shit.
Nice shot.
| 744 |
Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:06:30pm |
re: #720 OldLineTexan
Ouch. That hurt.
Hey, I liked The Silmarillion... after I got through all the boring parts.
| 746 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:07:01pm |
re: #724 jaunte
And judging simply on the cookbook, it has served you well - you have great talent there my friend!
| 747 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:07:20pm |
| 748 |
subsailor68 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:07:46pm |
re: #728 realwest
Hey sub! I had NO IDEA of what the hell you were doing or who Phillip was (is?) but as to your "God bless all!" I will say Amen, and get a good night's sleep!
Hey RW! Just logging off when I saw your post. Reading the Internet disorders Charles posted made me laugh, and couldn't resist doing a quick couple of posts by "someone" described in the post- just as a laugh. Hey! Don't ya be makin' fun of Phillip the overworked, underpaid orderly.
Oh yeah, made him up too!
All kidding aside, please have a wonderful 4th. Hope you and your Mom have someplace wonderful you're planning to go...and that the fireworks are the best ever!
| 749 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:08:00pm |
| 750 |
jaunte Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:08:07pm |
re: #746 realwest
Thanks, realwest; it's fun to do that stuff.
| 751 |
MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:08:08pm |
| 752 |
Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:08:21pm |
re: #730 ArchangelMichael
They were talking about famous sports quotes today on the local radio channel and a caller pulled out one from New Jersey Devils' coach Jim Schoenfeld in 1988 to referee Don Koharski.
'eat another doughnut you fat pig,'
ROFL, I forgot all about that one.
| 753 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:08:31pm |
re: #729 DEZes
If these puns get any worse, some one is gonna sewage us.
Frankly, I think this thread has become septic.
| 754 |
Clemente Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:08:35pm |
re: #729 DEZes
If these puns get any worse, some one is gonna sewage us.
Let 'em. They'll get squat!
| 755 |
Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:08:52pm |
re: #736 realwest
Now that's a silly question Mich! Everyone knows that old timey cars had cognitos to keep the pistons pumping - my Dad used to park his Ford Model A against a tree cause the cognitios were too hot and the engine wouldn't shut off.
I think you mean Magneto?
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:08:54pm |
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realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:09:47pm |
re: #732 jcmI accept with great humility.
Uh, to whom do I submit my expense account for reimbursement!
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:10:24pm |
re: #741 DEZes
If your busting caps from a desert eagle, you have some big hands.
hmmmmm...........
No. I have big tits.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:10:41pm |
re: #753 realwest
Frankly, I think this thread has become septic.
I used that up thread, but you get an upding anyway. ;)
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jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:11:11pm |
re: #757 realwest
I accept with great humility.
Uh, to whom do I submit my expense account for reimbursement!
3 wood of course.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:11:18pm |
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solomonpanting Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:11:46pm |
You wear my beret
And I'll use your bidet, cherie
I'll be clean you'll be free
Oh how happy we'll be
Toujours l'amour
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Sheila Broflovski Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:12:08pm |
re: #724 jaunte
My first non-lawnmowing job was as a stockboy at a Pier One. They paid me 50¢ more per hour to be a sign-maker for the store, and as a result it was covered with elaborately lettered signs. Once I found out I could get money for drawing and lettering, that's what I stayed focused on.
Seeing the cover of the LGF Cookbook, you have some awesome skillz.
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Gearhead Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:12:21pm |
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sngnsgt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:12:38pm |
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:12:39pm |
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ArchangelMichael Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:12:59pm |
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Unakite Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:13:32pm |
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:13:42pm |
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realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:14:04pm |
re: #748 subsailor68
Why thanks sub! Actually we're gonna sit around and watch the fireworks on TV (I know, you get 30 seconds of fireworks, and the rest of the show is either panning the audience or listening to the talking heads until the next commercial, but it's hard for us to walk far or stand up for long - and mosquitoes love biting me more than anyone else!).
But we'll have a great 4th and I sure hope y'all do too!
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:14:39pm |
re: #717 Gearhead
Kinda reads like The Silmarillion.
In some ways, I was indeed using that Tolkin book as a model.
re: #718 realwest
Hey Dark_Falcon - um that was well done, but WTF made you decide to do the chronicles of Cognito? Or at least the Chronicles of Cognito's banning?
I felt that Cognito's last acts of foolishness should be chronicled as a warning to future contrarians and I wanted to express the sorrow I felt at losing him. He was often a jerk, but there were times I enjoyed having him around.
| 776 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:14:43pm |
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Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:15:00pm |
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jaunte Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:15:36pm |
re: #766 Alouette
Thanks; I'm more of a manager of other artists and designers now, but the cookbook gives me a chance to play.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:15:39pm |
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realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:15:55pm |
re: #755 Mich-again
I think you mean Magneto?
Magneto, Cognito whatever - still had to park the damn car against a tree until it stopped running! LOL!
Yeah, Magneto is correct, I was just playing around there my amigo!
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Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:16:18pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:16:22pm |
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:17:26pm |
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Gearhead Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:17:27pm |
re: #771 Unakite
Magneto was an X-man.
Wait. Realwest's dad used to park the car against a tree because Ian McKellen would get overheated? That's just weird.
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realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:17:40pm |
re: #760 DEZes
Ah, well then - I guess there's only so much you can mine from those old bathroom jokes!
Thankew for the upding!
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realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:19:39pm |
re: #751 MandyManners
Evening Mandy - you know, Richard Pryor DID IN FACT get busted for shooting his own car in his own driveway in a mansion surrounded by high walls. Shot it six times with a .357 magnum iirc. Just a friendly warning case the cops come to your door!
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jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:19:53pm |
Cool, Google got some higher res images of western Iran.
I was able to find the village we lived in for a couple of years.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:20:24pm |
re: #785 realwest
Ah, well then - I guess there's only so much you can mine from those old bathroom jokes!
Thankew for the upding!
Oh dear sir, your welcome.
Its always a pleasure to see you post.
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:21:20pm |
This one is just for Killgore, if he stops by later. Shockingly, Ron Paul is not listed.
5 Pathetic Groups That People Think Rule The World
And we're #1! The shape-shifting Lizard People!
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:21:32pm |
re: #786 realwest
Evening Mandy - you know, Richard Pryor DID IN FACT get busted for shooting his own car in his own driveway in a mansion surrounded by high walls. Shot it six times with a .357 magnum iirc. Just a friendly warning case the cops come to your door!
Ever ear his routine on that?
he was one crazy funny SOB.
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realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:21:48pm |
re: #762 jcm
Oh Lord, he'll actually read 'em and ask questions and all. And want receipts.
My fraternity president just wanted a fifth of Hiram Walker 10 High bourbon (ok, we were a poor fraternity, but I put on some damn fine theme parties!).
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jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:22:57pm |
re: #792 realwest
Oh Lord, he'll actually read 'em and ask questions and all. And want receipts.
My fraternity president just wanted a fifth of Hiram Walker 10 High bourbon (ok, we were a poor fraternity, but I put on some damn fine theme parties!).
LOL!
I see your point......
In that cause maybe Iron Fist.....
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realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:23:12pm |
re: #773 DEZes
Oh so now its a pipe thread.
Well just watch where you throw that match out young fella!
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realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:24:43pm |
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Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:24:57pm |
We went to see the Detroit Symphony Orchestra play at Greenfield Village last night at the fireworks show there. The DSO was just awesome. Seen them a bunch of times and they always impress. The fireworks were just okay. But the cannons going off during the 1812 Overture made the whole show. That will be on the calender every year now.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:25:01pm |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:25:10pm |
re: #790 doppelganglander
This one is just for Killgore, if he stops by later. Shockingly, Ron Paul is not listed.
5 Pathetic Groups That People Think Rule The World
And we're #1! The shape-shifting Lizard People!
It's clear why we're number #1: Charles is more obsessed about than any of the other categories. There are other blogs primarily dedicated to attacking him. He must be evil to generate the hate he receives, right?
/sarc on that last line.
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pingjockey Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:25:12pm |
re: #786 realwest
Ha! I remember that. Guessed the car pissed him off!
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:25:54pm |
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:26:39pm |
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pingjockey Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:26:55pm |
re: #800 DEZes
Especially this time of the year. Lotsa fuses to explosive things lying about!
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:27:28pm |
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jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:27:36pm |
re: #790 doppelganglander
This one is just for Killgore, if he stops by later. Shockingly, Ron Paul is not listed.
5 Pathetic Groups That People Think Rule The World
And we're #1! The shape-shifting Lizard People!
How did they discover us!
We must eliminate them!
ssssssssssss
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:28:45pm |
re: #802 pingjockey
Especially this time of the year. Lotsa fuses to explosive things lying about!
An earth shattering boom, there was supposed to be an earth shattering boom.
*marvin*
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:29:08pm |
re: #804 jcm
How did they discover us!
We must eliminate them!ssssssssssss
Soon they will learn that we live under a thick pile of leaves!
//
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Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:29:35pm |
Well it wouldn't be the 4th of July weekend without watching the Redneck Rocket Launcher agin.
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Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:30:24pm |
Something interesting at BBC News...
New dinosaurs found in Australia
Australian palaeontologists say they have discovered three new dinosaur species after examining fossils dug up in Queensland.
Writing in the journal PLOS One, they describe one of the creatures as a fearsome predator with three large slashing claws on each hand...
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
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pingjockey Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:30:52pm |
re: #805 DEZes
Heh. Got the 9 yr old a couple of boxed dvd sets of the 'good' cartoons.
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:31:08pm |
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realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:31:19pm |
re: #793 jcm
Hmmm. Well lets see: 3 wood would simply disallow the reimbursement of my expenses whereas Iron Fist might cause my untimely death.
I'll go with door One Alex!
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subsailor68 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:31:37pm |
re: #759 MandyManners
No. I have big tits.
I'd logged off, gone to bed, was sleeping soundly, dreaming of life in Elysian fields, puppies romping around me, kittens mewling in the lush green fields of Spring, a picnic spread across a red and white checkered blanket - replete with fresh-cut sandwiches of alder smoked salmon, cucumber, sweet home-made mayonnaise - a lone egret circling lazily in the sky, simply waiting with the patience only a predator can possibly muster, just prior to breaking the cool, still waters of the river in search of its prey....the small, sweet buzz of insects just hovering above the golden fields of wheat not quite ready for harvest, while my true love lolled by my side, looking into the bright blue, almost cloudless sky, lost in thought..............
and then someone said "big tits."
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jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:32:16pm |
United States Declaration of Independence print is found in Britain
A copy of the US Declaration of Independence has been discovered in Britain.The document, which is in perfect condition, is believed to be one of only 200 printed and was stumbled upon among files at the National Archives in Kew, southwest London, by an American doing research.
Printed on July 4, 1776, it brings the total of known surviving copies worldwide to 26. The first official printings of the Declaration are known as Dunlaps: the name of the printer, John Dunlap, is given on each copy. This manuscript was hidden among correspondence from American colonists intercepted by the British in the 18th century.
In 2000 a Dunlap print that had been found at a flea market in 1989 fetched $8.14 million at auction.
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realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:32:53pm |
re: #791 DEZes
Yes I have heard his routine on that a few times actually.
And, fwliw, I think Richard Pryor may have been the most gifted comedian in my lifetime (though Robin Williams and Billy Crystal would certainly give him a run for the money!).
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:33:09pm |
re: #810 pingjockey
Heh. Got the 9 yr old a couple of boxed dvd sets of the 'good' cartoons.
I miss those old cartoons, they are timeless IMO.
Cartoon used to be funny, or were supposed to be.
Now its just 3rd rate animation.
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Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:33:15pm |
re: #814 jcm
Wow. How cool is that. I wonder if its legit? I question the timing. /
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:33:54pm |
re: #814 jcm
United States Declaration of Independence print is found in Britain
Why didn't my ancestors keep any priceless artifacts in the attic?
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pingjockey Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:34:09pm |
re: #816 DEZes
Yep. Crap. Of course now my cartoons would be nonPC, Heckle and Jeckel come to mind.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:34:10pm |
re: #790 doppelganglander
This one is just for Killgore, if he stops by later. Shockingly, Ron Paul is not listed.
5 Pathetic Groups That People Think Rule The World
And we're #1! The shape-shifting Lizard People!
I don't get the whole Draco connection.
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realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:34:14pm |
re: #799 pingjockey
Hi ping! Now why would you say that? LOL!
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:35:31pm |
re: #815 realwest
Yes I have heard his routine on that a few times actually.
And, fwliw, I think Richard Pryor may have been the most gifted comedian in my lifetime (though Robin Williams and Billy Crystal would certainly give him a run for the money!).
Walmart has a boxed set of some of his stuff, and cheap, I should buy it.
He made a movie called 'which way is up', I think its about as funny a movie as ever made.
| 823 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:35:54pm |
re: #790 doppelganglander
And we're #1! The shape-shifting Lizard People!
/shape-shifting Lizard People have huge tits
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jaunte Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:35:56pm |
Common sense breaks out briefly:
Man Burned at Burning Man Assumed Risk of Injury
Get too close to the Burning Man fire and you assume the “obvious and inherent” risk of being burned, a California appeals court has ruled in dismissing a personal injury lawsuit against the operators of the iconic countercultural arts festival.The burning of a 60-foot wooden sculpture in the figure of a man is the centerpiece of the Burning Man festival in the Black Rock Desert of Nevada. When the sculpture topples to the ground, revelers are allowed to toss tokens, mementos and other objects into the remnants of the sculpture.
Anthony Beninati sued the festival organizers, Black Rock City LLC, for negligence after he tripped and fell into the fire at the 2005 Burning Man, badly burning both his hands. He argued that the doctrine of primary assumption of risk does not apply to a “low-impact” cultural activity such as Burning Man, being limited to rule-based or, at least, active sports.
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pingjockey Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:36:01pm |
re: #821 realwest
Hehe. Richard Pryor, a snoot full of coke and a magnum with a car that won't start or Richard is too stoned to find the key. A very vicious combo!
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Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:36:12pm |
re: #818 doppelganglander
Why didn't my ancestors keep any priceless artifacts in the attic?
I'm guessing the Brit who received that considered it junk mail and was using it as a bookmark.
| 827 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:36:23pm |
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:37:37pm |
re: #823 Killian Bundy
/shape-shifting Lizard People have huge tits
That must be a problem for the gentlemen.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:37:58pm |
re: #825 pingjockey
Hehe. Richard Pryor, a snoot full of coke and a magnum with a car that won't start or Richard is too stoned to find the key. A very vicious combo!
His wife was gonna take the car, he said wrong, and went postal on the car.
He told his wife she could drive her shoes on down the road, or something to that effect.
He was a funny man.
| 831 |
jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:38:27pm |
re: #829 doppelganglander
That must be a problem for the gentlemen.
Nah, just shape shift them into a large.... *ahem*.......
| 832 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:38:31pm |
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pingjockey Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:39:17pm |
re: #830 DEZes
Yep. I liked Richard. My dad got to see Redd Foxx one time and said that guy had the foulest mouth he'd ever heard on a human!
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:39:26pm |
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Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:39:53pm |
re: #828 realwest
Sorry about that. I think if you click on it twice it goes right to youtube to show it.
| 837 |
Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:40:34pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:41:01pm |
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DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:42:09pm |
re: #834 pingjockey
Yep. I liked Richard. My dad got to see Redd Foxx one time and said that guy had the foulest mouth he'd ever heard on a human!
Richard could be foul, but he was capable of doing comedy with out a foul mouth.
Fox had a hard time being funny with out being foul.
| 840 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:42:36pm |
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realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:42:44pm |
re: #830 DEZes
His wife was gonna take the car, he said wrong, and went postal on the car.
He told his wife she could drive her shoes on down the road, or something to that effect.
He was a funny man.
Yes he was. And he led an, ah, interesting life too - raised by his aunt, I believe, who was the madam of a bordello where Richard grew up. His story of losing his virginity is an absolute classic!
| 843 |
Gearhead Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:43:19pm |
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sngnsgt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:43:34pm |
re: #828 realwest
Crap - embedding disabled by request!
I searced for it, it's worth it, give's me a better idea than what I had planned for the 4th.
| 845 |
pingjockey Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:43:42pm |
re: #839 DEZes
Never saw Redd. Richard Pryor could get rude and crude but he did some of the 70s variety shows and was funny without the filth.
| 846 |
Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:44:25pm |
Great quote from that video.
It'll be killer bad baby! WOOOO!
| 847 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:44:45pm |
re: #841 realwest
Yes he was. And he led an, ah, interesting life too - raised by his aunt, I believe, who was the madam of a bordello where Richard grew up. His story of losing his virginity is an absolute classic!
I saw him in once, I thought I was gonna bust.
Comedic genius must take a hard toll.
| 848 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:45:18pm |
re: #836 Mich-again
Sorry about that. I think if you click on it twice it goes right to youtube to show it.
I'm afraid not - I tried that first thing and nada - went back and tried again, nada.
Crap cause I remember it and it was funny as hell!
| 849 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:46:23pm |
re: #845 pingjockey
Never saw Redd. Richard Pryor could get rude and crude but he did some of the 70s variety shows and was funny without the filth.
Yeah, thats my point, Richard did some very funny comedy in movies, he could just be funny.
| 850 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:47:15pm |
Alright, got a dry rub goin' on a slab of baby back ribs. Anyone want to offer up a good marinade?
Or should we talk about guns, now?
| 852 |
pingjockey Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:47:35pm |
Goodnight folks and I will see y'all back here Sunday evening. Going over to my youngest bros house for the 4th. Y'all have fun, do all that 4th of July stuff and hoist one to our troops and their families and maybe a thought or prayer directed their way too would not come amiss. Thanks friends and enjoy your weekend!
| 853 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:48:10pm |
re: #845 pingjockey
And in his first concert after being healed up from being caught on fire while freebasing ("Live On the Sunset Strip"?) he did the MOST effective anti-drug riff that I've ever heard. If you took all the foul language out, Nancy Reagan would've approved.
| 854 |
DEZes Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:48:55pm |
I am gonna get off here.
Lizards, as always, you are damned good company.
| 855 |
Mich-again Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:49:07pm |
Richard Prior and Redd Foxx were in Harlem Nights with Eddie Murphy and Della Reese. A must see comedy. Della was a real sweetheart in this scene.
| 856 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:49:34pm |
re: #854 DEZes
I am gonna get off here.
Lizards, as always, you are damned good company.
Later DEZes.
| 857 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:50:03pm |
| 858 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:50:45pm |
re: #850 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM! I wish I could help you out with the marinade and I got nothing on guns tonight, either!
But other than that, lemme know if y'all need any help.
Even if your state, with lots of help from ACORN, just elected Al Franken - AL FUCKING FRANKEN to the US Senate!
| 859 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:51:44pm |
re: #852 pingjockey
Hey Ping - have a joyous Fourth of July my friend!
| 860 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:52:29pm |
Ah, silly ABC is carrying the 1000 thousand dollar health insurance fine story...
Senate Bill Fines People Refusing Health Coverage
Americans who refuse to buy affordable medical coverage could be hit with fines of more than $1,000 under a health care overhaul bill unveiled Thursday by key Senate Democrats looking to fulfill President Barack Obama's top domestic priority.
The Congressional Budget Office estimated the fines will raise around $36 billion over 10 years. Senate aides said the penalties would be modeled on the approach taken by Massachusetts, which now imposes a fine of about $1,000 a year on individuals who refuse to get coverage. Under the federal legislation, families would pay higher penalties than individuals.
In a revamped health care system envisioned by lawmakers, people would be required to carry health insurance just like motorists must get auto coverage now. The government would provide subsidies for the poor and many middle-class families, but those who still refuse to sign up would face penalties...
More bullshit.
| 861 |
jaunte Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:54:10pm |
Goodnight all; have a good Fourth of July weekend. Here's a thought from Michael Ledeen at The Corner:
It's always a bit difficult not to be sappy about the Fourth, which I insist on calling The Birthday of the Modern World. But a reader sent me a letter that contains two great paragraphs:Long before the modern rationalizations for the "benign" nanny state, Confucius had given his own vision of the perfectly ordered pyramid with the emperor at the top, talking to God, and most of the rest of us at the bottom, lucky for the privilege to talk to their dog.
The bulk of human experience is tyranny, whereas liberty is the ultimate unprobability, a.k.a., America. Government of the people, for the people, by the people cannot survive unless the people has enough intestinal fortitude to make it work.
Which is so true. Remember it. And fight.
| 862 |
jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:55:46pm |
re: #858 realwest
HEY NOAM! I wish I could help you out with the marinade and I got nothing on guns tonight, either!
But other than that, lemme know if y'all need any help.
Even if your state, with lots of help from ACORN, just elected Al Franken - AL FUCKING FRANKEN to the US Senate!
Video of Al Franken leaving for DC.
*yes that's Al in the suit*
| 863 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:57:10pm |
re: #860 Gus 802
Ah, silly ABC is carrying the 1000 thousand dollar health insurance fine story...
Senate Bill Fines People Refusing Health Coverage
More bullshit.
It's a bad bill. Let's make sure it goes down in flames.
| 864 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:57:12pm |
re: #858 realwest
Al Franken - AL FUCKING FRANKEN to the US Senate!
you're going to have to deal with it, just like the Minnesota electorate/2 +312.
/Norm was up 700 on election day, good thing ACORN SOS Ritchie and his Bonkey cast of characters found an even number 1000 votes during the recount, can't be too sure when you're stealing a Senate seat
| 865 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:58:36pm |
| 866 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 9:58:45pm |
re: #861 jaunte
Hey good night jaunte! And a HAPPY, GLORIOUS FOURTH to you too!
| 868 |
jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:00:17pm |
re: #864 Killian Bundy
you're going to have to deal with it, just like the Minnesota electorate/2 +312.
/Norm was up 700 on election day, good thing ACORN SOS Ritchie and his Bonkey cast of characters found an even number 1000 votes during the recount, can't be too sure when you're stealing a Senate seat
WA '04 First count Rossi by 261.
By the third recount they "found" enough ballots to put Gregoire over the top by 136.
Some of the same actors in that recount went to MN to help Franken.
| 869 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:00:30pm |
re: #863 Dark_Falcon
It's a bad bill. Let's make sure it goes down in flames.
Hope so. I can't afford either in this economy. Insurance would be about 400 a month in my case. I am barely making it. Of course the moronic Democrats don't take the economy into consideration in any of their decisions since they have failed to grasp the concept of a free-market economy.
| 873 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:01:14pm |
| 874 |
windhorse Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:01:46pm |
it's amazing..... I haven't had health insurance since 2000.... and I have only been sick a couple of times.....
/and don't forget - in 1991, I was given 9-months to live...
//change
| 875 |
sngnsgt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:01:57pm |
re: #860 Gus 802
Let's see, should I make my insurance payment or pay the fine? If I pay the fine, I won't have the money to make my insurance payment, and if I don't pay the fine, I'll wind up with late fees, on my insurance and the fine...
Hmm...
| 876 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:02:36pm |
re: #862 jcm
*yes that's Al in the suit*
No it's not. Franken was one of the gorilla handlers. That's the Beeks character in the gorilla suit.
/great movie, don't hesitate to watch it again
| 877 |
windhorse Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:02:57pm |
re: #874 windhorse
(when my oldest son was 4-months old....... and whom just turned 18....)
| 878 |
austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:03:31pm |
Well, it got hotter than hell again today. Our two day reprieve of days in the low 90's was replaced by a solid 103 today. Here's a Richard Pryor bit. Sweet!
| 879 |
jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:03:50pm |
re: #876 Killian Bundy
No it's not. Franken was one of the gorilla handlers. That's the Beeks character in the gorilla suit.
/great movie, don't hesitate to watch it again
Aww, I thought Al got stuffed in the suit, it's only be like 20 years since I saw it.
| 880 |
reine.de.tout Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:04:00pm |
re: #860 Gus 802
Ah, silly ABC is carrying the 1000 thousand dollar health insurance fine story...
Senate Bill Fines People Refusing Health Coverage
More bullshit.
Oh, for pity's sake!
They are going to take away the ability of people to make their own decisions about how they want to spend (or not spend) their very own money.
I have a brother who is a long-time drug addict - crack and vicodin are his drugs of choice, lately.
Needless to say, he has all sorts of health problems, going back for years.
He has no medical insurance. He "can't afford" it. He whines about how the government should "provide" for people who "can't afford" health insurance.
Somehow, though, he manages to "afford" to buy his drugs. And those habits are much more expensive than medical insurance would cost him.
He has decided how he is going to spend his money. And he has decided not to take care of himself. I have to tell you, I will resent like hell anything I have to pay in increased taxes so that he can have medical coverage without having to pay for it himself.
| 881 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:04:16pm |
re: #864 Killian Bundy
you're going to have to deal with it, just like the Minnesota electorate/2 +312.
/Norm was up 700 on election day, good thing ACORN SOS Ritchie and his Bonkey cast of characters found an even number 1000 votes during the recount, can't be too sure when you're stealing a Senate seat
it's a disgrace...the govt is running amok and nobody does a thing about it...there is no voter security, no independent mechanism to prevent this third world shit...ACORN is worth billions, purely a criminal enterprise and our president loves it to pieces...I'm lost
| 882 |
realwest Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:04:28pm |
Well y'all it's been fun, but I have to go to sleep now.
For all of y'all who won't be on LGF tomorrow or the Fourth, please take just a little time to reflect on how fortunate we are to be Americans. How truly blessed we were to have the Founding Fathers that we had.
To paraphrase John F. Kennedy (addressing a room full of Nobel Laureates at a White House Dinner) "There has probably never been such an enormous amount of intellect and talent ever at a White House dinner before this.
Except, of course, when Thomas Jefferson ate dinner here alone."
I do hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
| 883 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:04:42pm |
re: #868 jcm
WA '04 First count Rossi by 261.
By the third recount they "found" enough ballots to put Gregoire over the top by 136.Some of the same actors in that recount went to MN to help Franken.
/gotta vote some indisputable separation or it'll happen again
| 884 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:08:04pm |
re: #872 jcm
Coleman should've used it in a ad.
Anyone know how to shrink that image to a file size I could use as an avatar?
Using GIMP?
| 885 |
jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:08:13pm |
re: #883 Killian Bundy
/gotta vote some indisputable separation or it'll happen again
While back I looked at a lot of these close races.
In every case ostensibly conservatives who voted 3rd party if a small percentage had vote (R) the outcome would have been different.
The (R) party doesn't need to move to middle. It needs simply to capture a larger section of the conservative / libertarian / classically liberal vote.
| 886 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:08:39pm |
re: #880 reine.de.tout
Oh, for pity's sake!
They are going to take away the ability of people to make their own decisions about how they want to spend (or not spend) their very own money.I have a brother who is a long-time drug addict - crack and vicodin are his drugs of choice, lately.
Needless to say, he has all sorts of health problems, going back for years.
He has no medical insurance. He "can't afford" it. He whines about how the government should "provide" for people who "can't afford" health insurance.
Somehow, though, he manages to "afford" to buy his drugs. And those habits are much more expensive than medical insurance would cost him.
He has decided how he is going to spend his money. And he has decided not to take care of himself. I have to tell you, I will resent like hell anything I have to pay in increased taxes so that he can have medical coverage without having to pay for it himself.
The only thing I can think about regarding the Democrats is: it's the economy stupid. I can't very well come up with an extra 400 dollars a month with the state that things are in now and the worsening future under control by these dimwits.
| 887 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:09:02pm |
re: #882 realwest
I'm flying my flag tomorrow - just because I have an extra day off from work.
| 888 |
jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:09:09pm |
re: #884 Noam Sayin'
Anyone know how to shrink that image to a file size I could use as an avatar?
Using GIMP?
IIRC in GIMP you can resize and specify pixel dimensions and file size.
| 889 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:09:46pm |
re: #886 Gus 802
The only thing I can think about regarding the Democrats is: it's the economy stupid. I can't very well come up with an extra 400 dollars a month with the state that things are in now and the worsening future under control by these dimwits.
offer them an IOU
| 890 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:10:14pm |
re: #888 jcm
IIRC in GIMP you can resize and specify pixel dimensions and file size.
Thanks, I'll look for that.
Downloaded GIMP a long time ago and never took the time to learn how to use it.
| 891 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:10:37pm |
re: #884 Noam Sayin'
Anyone know how to shrink that image to a file size I could use as an avatar?
Using GIMP?
Give me a few minutes.
/I think I have your e-mail address somewhere
| 892 |
jcm Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:12:51pm |
Night all.
It is the manners and spirit of a people which preserve a republic in vigor. A degeneracy in these is a canker which soon eats to the heart of its laws and constitution.
Thomas Jefferson,
| 893 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:13:48pm |
Hi there lizards. I'm just back from a little local fireworks display. It was awesome. How's everybody this evening?
| 894 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:14:26pm |
re: #893 Pvt Bin Jammin
Hi there lizards. I'm just back from a little local fireworks display. It was awesome. How's everybody this evening?
Gettin' drunk.
| 895 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:14:34pm |
re: #890 Noam Sayin'
Thanks, I'll look for that.
Downloaded GIMP a long time ago and never took the time to learn how to use it.
It's already under the avatar limit.
/loads right up
| 896 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:15:11pm |
| 897 |
austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:15:13pm |
re: #881 albusteve
it's a disgrace...the govt is running amok and nobody does a thing about it...there is no voter security, no independent mechanism to prevent this third world shit...ACORN is worth billions, purely a criminal enterprise and our president loves it to pieces...I'm lost
You seem to be saying that ACORN was responsible for Franken's win. Any link to that? And ACORN is worth billions? Really? Most community organizers I know of work for something just above minimum wage (which is what got ACORN in trouble in the first place on its voter registration drives). Don't get me wrong, I think the collection of voter names by ACORN was atrocious, but the fact is that the Registrars in the various States caught the bullshit. There is no hard evidence that ACORN's actions resulted in widespread voter fraud.
OK, I know that this goes against perceived fact, so I will just duck now.
| 898 |
Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:16:05pm |
re: #888 jcm
IIRC in GIMP you can resize and specify pixel dimensions and file size.
Select Scale Layer under Scale, iirc. Or at least that's how I did it. I'm a beginner at GIMP (two days).
| 899 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:16:53pm |
re: #895 Killian Bundy
It's already under the avatar limit.
/loads right up
Huh. I thought the avatar limit was 15k.
I'll give it a try.
| 901 |
pat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:18:57pm |
I suppose you all are having home grown arugula and radishes under a fluorescent bulb, with a bit of farm raised tilapia grilled on a solar stove like Mr. and Misses O for the Fourth?
| 902 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:19:39pm |
re: #897 austin_blue
You seem to be saying that ACORN was responsible for Franken's win. Any link to that? And ACORN is worth billions? Really? Most community organizers I know of work for something just above minimum wage (which is what got ACORN in trouble in the first place on its voter registration drives). Don't get me wrong, I think the collection of voter names by ACORN was atrocious, but the fact is that the Registrars in the various States caught the bullshit. There is no hard evidence that ACORN's actions resulted in widespread voter fraud.
OK, I know that this goes against perceived fact, so I will just duck now.
ACORN has been involved with fraud before, and I'm of the "Where there's smoke, there's fire" school of thinking. As for how much there're worth, there is no clear way to say with the amount of cash they take in a disperse.
| 904 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:22:19pm |
Clearing Franken avatar.
/just in case Noam's having trouble uploading it
| 905 |
MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:22:23pm |
This one is for the gents only. Thank me later guys. [Link: splodetv.com...]
| 906 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:22:29pm |
re: #901 pat
I suppose you all are having home grown arugula and radishes under a fluorescent bulb, with a bit of farm raised tilapia grilled on a solar stove like Mr. and Misses O for the Fourth?
When iron floats. Give me a good steak over tilapia.
| 908 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:23:26pm |
re: #904 Killian Bundy
Clearing Franken avatar.
/just in case Noam's having trouble uploading it
I think I got it. Just had to refresh so I could see it, myself.
| 909 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:23:33pm |
| 910 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:24:06pm |
re: #897 austin_blue
You seem to be saying that ACORN was responsible for Franken's win. Any link to that? And ACORN is worth billions? Really? Most community organizers I know of work for something just above minimum wage (which is what got ACORN in trouble in the first place on its voter registration drives). Don't get me wrong, I think the collection of voter names by ACORN was atrocious, but the fact is that the Registrars in the various States caught the bullshit. There is no hard evidence that ACORN's actions resulted in widespread voter fraud.
OK, I know that this goes against perceived fact, so I will just duck now.
I'm thinking the feds gave them a few billion to operate with the mega spending bill this spring...I'm not saying or even implying ACORN had anything to do with Franken...ACORN is dirty, it's a bad idea and part of the larger problem....there can be a better way to get voters ID'd and registered
| 911 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:24:23pm |
re: #907 Killian Bundy
[Expletive deleted]!
/give me Bob back
Relax. I see him.
Everyone else sees Bob, too... right?
| 912 |
pat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:24:40pm |
re: #902 Dark_Falcon
Acorn is now being investigated in 14 States for VOTER FRAUD, RACKETEERING, TAX EVASION, MISUSE OF GOVERNMENT FUNDS, DISCRIMINATION, AND LABOR LAWS.
| 913 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:25:14pm |
re: #902 Dark_Falcon
ACORN has been involved with fraud before, and I'm of the "Where there's smoke, there's fire" school of thinking. As for how much there're worth, there is no clear way to say with the amount of cash they take in a disperse.
ask George Soros
| 914 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:25:17pm |
re: #909 Racer X
LOL!
That one deserves a hat tip to Killian. He posted that one months ago, but had the good taste not to make it his avatar.
Me? Not so much.
| 915 |
solomonpanting Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:25:45pm |
re: #912 pat
Acorn is now being investigated in 14 States for VOTER FRAUD, RACKETEERING, TAX EVASION, MISUSE OF GOVERNMENT FUNDS, DISCRIMINATION, AND LABOR LAWS.
IOW, they'll be heading the Justice Department?
| 916 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:26:40pm |
re: #912 pat
Acorn is now being investigated in 14 States for VOTER FRAUD, RACKETEERING, TAX EVASION, MISUSE OF GOVERNMENT FUNDS, DISCRIMINATION, AND LABOR LAWS.
/and you'll notice Minnesota isn't on the list, ACORN's already got the Secretary of State in it's pocket
| 917 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:26:57pm |
| 918 |
Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:27:16pm |
re: #615 windhorse
....my first job was dish washing at Carver's on the Lake..... $1.15 per hour.... followed by a job down at the marina pumping Ethel for $1.35.....
Ethel was kind of a cheapskate, huh?
| 919 |
pat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:28:30pm |
Actually I am having all American Baby Back Ribs with a tomato based BBQ sauce, beef ribs with dry rub, Teriyaki boneless beef rib cuts, chicken and apple sausage from La., simmered baked beans in ham hocks, white rice, potato crab salad, cole slaw, sweet corn, then a bit of beer. I am in charge, and i don't do arugual.
| 921 |
Syrah Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:29:28pm |
| 922 |
NY Nana Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:30:46pm |
re: #705 Dark_Falcon
Cognito was banned? /How I will miss his avatar, that looks like a bear's tush...
I know it isn't, but no matter how long I looked at it? bear's tush!
| 924 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:31:20pm |
re: #905 MrPaulRevere
This one is for the gents only. Thank me later guys. [Link: splodetv.com...]
They didn't hit the target once.
... that I noticed.
| 926 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:34:27pm |
Couldn't be any more perfect than it is right now in Minneapolis:
A Few Clouds
71 °F
(22 °C)
Humidity: 59 %
Wind Speed: N 3 MPH
Barometer: 30.07" (1017.9 mb)
Dewpoint: 56 °F (13 °C)
Visibility: 10.00 mi.
I'm on my porch, and the neighborhood is dead quiet.
By the way, why did "they" stop publishing the barometer direction? That's much more telling than just knowing the reading.
| 927 |
austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:35:11pm |
re: #910 albusteve
I'm thinking the feds gave them a few billion to operate with the mega spending bill this spring...I'm not saying or even implying ACORN had anything to do with Franken...ACORN is dirty, it's a bad idea and part of the larger problem....there can be a better way to get voters ID'd and registered
I would love to see the amount of money that ACORN has actually received from the Feds. Billions? Any hard numbers out there? Seems that ACORN has become the equivalent of Karl Rove for the hard right. Silly when the Dem's laid it on Karl, silly when the R's do it now. Just sayin'.
As for the Fourth, we are putting out our flags (that would be American) and getting the neighbors together for steaks and grilled okra (don't poo-poo okra- double skewer it like shrimp and grill it with sesame oil. Sprinkle it with Kosher salt and enjoy. I guarantee that the Most Hated Vegetable in the world will become a favorite.)
| 929 |
pat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:36:23pm |
re: #924 Noam Sayin'
Boobs make a poor weapons rest, but #3 was familiar with guns. Shouldered properly, both eyes down the barrel. and was likely hitting target. She was a killer.
| 931 |
pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:37:31pm |
re: #930 Gus 802
Here we go with the DailyKos sock puppetry.
No shit, Gus, I was about to say the same damn thing.
| 932 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:37:39pm |
A Muslim 4th of July: "Life, Liberty, & The Pursuit of Happiness"
Over 30,000 Muslims from all over the country are set to converge on the DC Convention Center over Fourth of July weekend.
The 46th Annual Convention of The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) promises to be one of the most memorable with such a diverse array of offerings that any attendant is sure to find something enjoyable. In addition to ISNA's full lineup of sessions, the Muslim Students Association and the Muslim Youth of North America will conduct programming specific to their membership concurrent to ISNA's programming as well.
4th of July Spirit Colours ISNA Convention
When tens of thousands of Muslims gather this weekend for the annual Islamic Society of North American (ISNA) convention, they will not only be taking part in community events, but also celebrating America's birthday.
"This year’s theme is one that we cherish as Muslims in America," Sayyid M. Syeed, ISNA National Director for Interfaith and Community Outreach, told IslamOnline.net.
More than 40,000 Muslims from across the US and Canada are expected to attend the 46th ISNA convention, themed Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, on July 3-6.
/big grain of salt
| 933 |
tradewind Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:37:40pm |
....only six?
Seriously, this ought to be funny, but it's way too accurate. It might aspire to satire, but that's not possible...because while satire requires a grain of honesty at its core, this thing is the freakin' gospel truth.
| 934 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:38:27pm |
re: #931 pink freud
No shit, Gus, I was about to say the same damn thing.
Was kind of nice not having any of that BS all evening -- until now that is.
| 935 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:39:08pm |
| 937 |
swamprat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:39:44pm |
re: #927 austin_blue
Often when you ask these sorts of questions, you get your ass handed to you don't like the answers.
Or you refrain from responding to them.
/just sayin'
| 938 |
Kronocide Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:39:45pm |
Acorn became among the most successful at exploiting the law, especially after the Clinton administration set up tough new CRA standards. In 1993 Acorn crafted a $55 million, 11-city lending program administered by it and financed by 14 major banks eager to avoid CRA woes. In 1998 Acorn activists disrupted Federal Reserve hearings on the proposed Citicorp merger with Travelers, waving red umbrellas, a corporate symbol of Travelers, and then later protested Citigroup's acquisition of Associates First Capital Corp. Eventually Citigroup signed an agreement to provide mortgages through Acorn counseling centers, including home loans to undocumented aliens in California. In 2000 a U.S. Senate subcommittee estimated that such CRA deals had directed at least $9.5 billion through nonprofits, making the CRA the second-most important funder of social advocacy groups next to the government itself.
While Acorn now operates in more than 100 cities with a national budget of $37 million, it never truly left behind the welfare-rights mentality.
What's undeniable is ACORN is playing with real money, yet it's hard to find out exactly how much they are playing with and who's giving them what. There is no doubt they are getting dough from the US government, and I would be incredulous to if anybody tried to tell me that Barack Obama would not give them any money or less than George Bush or the Republicans did, being a lawyer for them and supportive of their causes by his own politics.
| 939 |
tradewind Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:39:50pm |
re: #926 Noam Sayin'
Couldn't be any more perfect than it is right now in Minneapolis
Not to burst the bubble, but Al Franken 's going to DC as MN's junior senator...
| 940 |
austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:40:03pm |
re: #930 Gus 802
Here we go with the DailyKos sock puppetry.
You referring to me? Nope. Please click the nic. Just a Texas Dem. Which, if you haven't been following the evolution wars down here, is semantically equal to sane.
| 942 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:40:38pm |
re: #922 NY Nana
Cognito was banned? /How I will miss his avatar, that looks like a bear's tush...
I know it isn't, but no matter how long I looked at it? bear's tush!
Just when I make a conscientious effort to be nice to the guy.
But I knew all along he was a rat's ass - the cleverest rat's ass we've seen here, I'd say.
*toasts Cogs*
I told you, you were a jerk-ass, Cogs.
| 943 |
Wendya Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:40:49pm |
re: #912 pat
Acorn is now being investigated in 14 States for VOTER FRAUD, RACKETEERING, TAX EVASION, MISUSE OF GOVERNMENT FUNDS, DISCRIMINATION, AND LABOR LAWS.
Sounds like they're qualified to be in Obama's cabinet.
| 945 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:41:17pm |
re: #929 pat
Boobs make a poor weapons rest, but #3 was familiar with guns. Shouldered properly, both eyes down the barrel. and was likely hitting target. She was a killer.
There were guns in that video?
| 947 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:41:43pm |
| 948 |
sngnsgt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:41:48pm |
LOL! This is Ye' Ol' Family Homestead full of moonbats...
| 949 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:41:54pm |
re: #940 austin_blue
You referring to me? Nope. Please click the nic. Just a Texas Dem. Which, if you haven't been following the evolution wars down here, is semantically equal to sane.
Not really. It means you probably voted for Obama, which is a bigger act of insanity than creationism.
| 950 |
Kronocide Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:42:17pm |
re: #927 austin_blue
I would love to see the amount of money that ACORN has actually received from the Feds. Billions? Any hard numbers out there?
Wouldn't we all. I'm looking, how about you do to. Let's just find some pathetically small number and put this whole tangent to rest.
| 951 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:42:39pm |
re: #944 pink freud
...and here he is. :-)
Kind of a misfire, pink. But you're not the first woman to call me, "Big Papa."
Heh™
| 952 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:43:04pm |
re: #927 austin_blue
I would love to see the amount of money that ACORN has actually received from the Feds. Billions? Any hard numbers out there? Seems that ACORN has become the equivalent of Karl Rove for the hard right. Silly when the Dem's laid it on Karl, silly when the R's do it now. Just sayin'.
As for the Fourth, we are putting out our flags (that would be American) and getting the neighbors together for steaks and grilled okra (don't poo-poo okra- double skewer it like shrimp and grill it with sesame oil. Sprinkle it with Kosher salt and enjoy. I guarantee that the Most Hated Vegetable in the world will become a favorite.)
there are no hard numbers out there, but if you believe that ACORN will not tap federal fund one way or another you are naive...it's not a far right thing at all
| 953 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:43:12pm |
re: #946 Noam Sayin'
Say, what 50" TV did you finally get?
/you'll probably be able to turn down the thermostat in the winter
| 954 |
Syrah Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:43:20pm |
re: #947 Racer X
Barbie now has a tramp stamp?
What next?
/What next? Maybe I should be afraid to ask that.
| 955 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:44:32pm |
re: #952 albusteve
there are no hard numbers out there, but if you believe that ACORN will not tap federal fund one way or another you are naive...it's not a far right thing at all
Quite concur.
| 956 |
Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:44:34pm |
Happy fourth of July, everyone!
And to those of you who served to keep us free,
THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
| 957 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:45:34pm |
Some of ACORNS transgressions (Part 1)
In 2003 ACORN submitted 5,379 voter-registration cards to St. Louis, Missouri election-board officials, who later determined that only 2,013 of the cards appeared to be valid.
In 2006 approximately 20,000 questionable voter-registration forms were turned in by ACORN officials in Missouri -- virtually all in the St. Louis and Kansas City areas, where ACORN professed a commitment to empowering the "disenfranchised" minorities living there.
Between March 23 and October 1, 2008, ACORN and other "get-out-the-vote" groups submitted at least 252,595 registrations to the Philadelphia County Election Board; of those, 57,435 were rejected for faulty information. Most of the fraudulent forms -- which featured fake social security numbers, incorrect birthdates, forged or duplicate signatures, and non-existent addresses -- were submitted by ACORN.
In Centre County, Pennsylvania -- the home of Penn State University and its 40,000 students -- former state Supreme Court Justice Sandra Newman complained in 2008 about a "massive effort" to fraudulently register those students. "I am not confident we can get a fair election," Newman said.
In Erie County, Pennsylvania in 2008, students at local colleges were targeted in "student registration drives" designed to register voters multiple times. The county's director of elections reported that the "same handwriting" appeared on a large number of applications.
In October 2008, Philadelphia's City Commissioners voted unanimously to present to the U.S. Attorney some 50,663 fraudulent voter-registration forms submitted by ACORN. These included 35,888 duplicates; 689 that were filled out by people too young to vote; 2,108 with missing signatures; 5,093 with phony addresses; and 6,161 not eligible because they were missing a valid HAVA (Help America Vote Act) number.
In 2004 a Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokesman said that ACORN had been "singled out" among suspected voter-registration groups as "the common thread" in the agency's statewide fraud investigations.
In 2004 Mark Wilson, vice president of the Florida Chamber of Commerce, said that efforts to register felons and to submit fraudulent voter-registration forms were "so widespread" that "t just seems to be a systemic approach to take advantage of our lax registration laws."
Among the 1,320 voter-registration forms that ACORN filed in Brevard County, Florida in 2008, fully two-thirds contained the names of people who had been previously registered. One Miami individual in particular filled out 21 duplicate applications.
In 2008 in Indianapolis (where ACORN was very active), the number of registered voters exceeded the official population of voting-age adults by 33,204.
In Lake County, Indiana, ACORN submitted 5,000 voter-registration applications in early October 2008. Of the first 2,100 that were analyzed by election officials, every single one was fraudulent. "All the signatures looked exactly the same," said Republican election official Ruthann Hoagland. "Everything on the card filled out looks exactly the same." Hoagland's Democratic colleague, Sally LaSota, concurred: "We're not handwriting experts, but what's obvious is obvious." The fake registrants included dead people and under-age children.
| 958 |
solomonpanting Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:45:45pm |
| 959 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:45:49pm |
re: #953 Killian Bundy
Say, what 50" TV did you finally get?
/you'll probably be able to turn down the thermostat in the winter
Insignia. From what I've read, it's a Samsung imprint created for Best Buy.
Yes. Plasma TVs are quite warm.
But 1080p is quite luxurious to watch.
| 960 |
Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:45:57pm |
re: #935 Dark_Falcon
The only problem - Freddie's dead.
You're such a bunch of old coots.
I knew someone would link an old tape. Queen wasn't playing with the great (miss him tons) Mr. Mercury. They hotfooted it to Nokia Center to play with Adam. Past is prologue.
Adam's doing some Bowie in the AI tour. :D
| 961 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:45:59pm |
re: #935 Dark_Falcon
not really a big Queen fan, but I always liked Freddie...a harmless, likable guy....he loved to entertain
| 962 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:46:29pm |
re: #954 Syrah
Barbie now has a tramp stamp?
What next?
What next? Maybe I should be afraid to ask that.
/naval piercings, creative shaving
| 963 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:46:35pm |
Some of ACORNS transgressions (Part 2)
In Jackson County, Missouri in 2008, election supervisor Charlene Davis told reporters that her office had discovered some 800 fraudulent forms filed by ACORN.
In 2004 the voter rolls in St. Louis, Missouri included 1,452 people registered at vacant lots; 2,242 felons; 4,405 dead people; and 15,953 who were also registered elsewhere in Missouri or, in some cases, in another state.
In 2008 in St. Louis, where at least eight ACORN workers had previously pleaded guilty to fraud, at least 60 ballots were cast by voters using the identities of dead people.
In 2008 St. Louis election officials, suspicious of many of the voter-registration applications submitted by ACORN, sent letters to some 5,000 ACORN registrants citywide, asking the recipients to contact the election board. Fewer than 40 reponded.
In 2008 in Kansas City, Missouri (where four ACORN employees had been indicted for fraud a year earlier), approximately 15,000 registrations were judged to be questionable.
Two years earlier in Kansas City, 40 percent of the 35,000 registrations submitted by ACORN were fraudulent.
In October 2008 in Las Vegas, Nevada, the FBI raided ACORN's offices after reports surfaced that the organization had fraudulently registered a number of new "voters" with fictitious names.
In 2008 in Clark County, Nevada, registrar of voters Larry Lomax told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that ACORN was submitting 2,000 to 3,000 fraudulent applications per week.
In late 2008, Nevada criminal investigator Colin Hayes of the Secretary of State's office said that 59 prison inmates had worked for ACORN from early March through late July of that year. According to the Las Vegas Sun, "One ex-employee of ACORN, Jason Anderson, rose to the rank of a supervisor in the voter registration program although he was a convicted felon and an inmate at Casa Grande at the time."
In 2004, New Mexico state representative Joe Thompson accused ACORN of "manufacturing voters" throughout his state. The following year, ACORN employees forged thousands of signatures in a campaign to put a wage initiative on the ballot in Albuquerque.
In Seattle, Washington in 2007, ACORN workers filled out 1,805 registration forms with phony names, addresses, and Social Security numbers. Of the 1,805 applications, only 9 were confirmed to be valid. Washington secretary of state Sam Reed called it the "worst case of voter-registration fraud in the history" of the state.
That same year, seven ACORN workers in Washington were indicted for having submitted nearly 3,400 fraudulent forms in King and Pierce Counties. Three of the suspects eventually pled guilty and ACORN was ordered to pay a $25,000 fine.
In Oakland County, Michigan in 2008, election officials discovered more than 33,000 duplicate voter-registration applications, most of which had been submitted by ACORN workers.
Between January and October 2008 in North Carolina, where ACORN was particularly active, the number of newly registered Democrats exceeded newly registered Republicans by 218,749 to 38,337. This imbalance was evident even in the Charlotte-area county, where in previous election years new Republicans had consistently outnumbered new Democrats by a 2-to-1 margin. One ACORN worker in Charlotte was found to have forged approximately 70 registrations.
| 964 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:46:36pm |
re: #960 Catttt
The only problem - Freddie's dead.
You're such a bunch of old coots.
I knew someone would link an old tape. Queen wasn't playing with the great (miss him tons) Mr. Mercury. They hotfooted it to Nokia Center to play with Adam. Past is prologue.
Adam's doing some Bowie in the AI tour. :D
Are you going to see the AI tour?
| 965 |
Syrah Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:47:07pm |
The difference between Acorn and Karl Rove is that Karl Rove never cheated at the ballot box.
| 966 |
Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:47:13pm |
re: #948 sngnsgt
LOL! This is Ye' Ol' Family Homestead full of moonbats...
They don't have high-speed 'net in Erie? Shudder.
| 967 |
sngnsgt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:47:16pm |
re: #954 Syrah
Barbie now has a tramp stamp?
What next?
/What next? Maybe I should be afraid to ask that.
She's always been shaven down under hasn't she? /
| 968 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:47:40pm |
re: #962 Killian Bundy
/naval piercings, creative shaving
Stainless steel surgical implants. I hear Barbie's been feelin' a little Goth lately.
| 969 |
MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:47:44pm |
I don't like ACORNS politics, I don't like their tactics, I don't like their record of dubious legality and I strongly object to ANY partisan political organization receiving federal funds. Having said all of that, I'm not obsessed with them. I don't do derangement syndromes.
| 970 |
pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:47:45pm |
Re: Acorn
I personally know a handful and have knowledge of a few dozen more college students in Little Rock AR who have been recruited by ACORN to go door-to-door at the rate of $10 an hour, 8 hours a day, to solicit personally written letters supporting the Employee Free Choice Act. Letters are specifically directed to Senator Blanche Lincoln, a conservative Dem who is not supporting this bill. Where is this money coming from? ACORN pays them directly. Are these tax-payer dollars, government money? Aren't you curious, Austin Blue? I am.
| 971 |
Syrah Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:47:51pm |
| 972 |
doppelganglander Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:48:06pm |
re: #967 sngnsgt
She's always been shaven down under hasn't she? /
Yes, but that's nothing compared to Ken's problems.
| 973 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:48:19pm |
re: #945 Noam Sayin'
There were guns in that video?
good lord!....those ratty assed bitches distracted you?...yuk!
| 974 |
Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:48:21pm |
re: #961 albusteve
not really a big Queen fan, but I always liked Freddie...a harmless, likable guy....he loved to entertain
He's one of a handful of singers that other singers are compared to when they are really good.
| 975 |
pat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:48:27pm |
Did you guys see Jaun Williams on the Cap and Trade Bill mandating a Federal Energy Audit and Inspection of your home before you can sell it? He was not happy. Wondering if the Dems have lost their minds. Fourth Amendement out the fucking window like a piece of trash. Contracts clause? What is that? Penumbra of the Ninth Amendment? Not when we are in charge. Crazy people.
| 976 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:49:07pm |
re: #949 Dark_Falcon
Not really. It means you probably voted for Obama, which is a bigger act of insanity than creationism.
heh...true enough
| 978 |
Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:49:21pm |
re: #968 Noam Sayin'
Stainless steel surgical implants. I hear Barbie's been feelin' a little Goth lately.
Time to link the commercial where Barbie runs off with GI Joe and leaves poor Ken crying in the Dream House.
| 979 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:49:27pm |
Some of ACORNS transgressions (Part 3)
In 2004 ACORN and its affiliate, Project Vote, submitted a large number of voter-registration cards to the election board in Cuyahoga County, Ohio (which is part of greater Cleveland). These cards had a 15-percent error rate (i.e., mistaken names, addresses, birth dates, etc.) -- higher than the corresponding rate among cards filed by any other group.
That same year, the Franklin County, Ohio board of election supervisors said that ACORN and Project Vote had submitted hundreds of "blatantly false" forms.
According to the Wall Street Journal: "During a congressional hearing in Ohio in the aftermath of the 2004 election, officials from several counties in the state explained ACORN's practice of dumping thousands of registration forms in their lap on the submission deadline, even though the forms had been collected months earlier." Reflecting on that practice, Thor Hearne of the American Center for Voting Rights remarked, "You have to wonder what's the point of that, if not to overwhelm the system and get phony registrations on the voter rolls."
In 2008 the Cuyahoga County board of elections openly accused ACORN of fraud.
In 2008, approximately 8,000 of the 72,000 new applications submitted by ACORN in Ohio appeared to be fraudulent.
In 2004 in Colorado, ACORN filed hundreds of suspicious voter-registration forms in at least four Denver metro-area counties.
[Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]
| 980 |
sngnsgt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:49:46pm |
re: #966 Catttt
They don't have high-speed 'net in Erie? Shudder.
I just moved to N Las Vegas from Erie. You can get high-speed interweb there, but it's limited and not cheap. We had ours through the cable company.
| 981 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:50:36pm |
re: #978 Catttt
Time to link the commercial where Barbie runs off with GI Joe and leaves poor Ken crying in the Dream House.
I like the one where they tie him up and make him watch.
| 982 |
pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:50:56pm |
re: #957 Gus 802
Why thank you Gus, I wasn't going to bother. This one knows better anyway.
| 983 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:51:29pm |
re: #969 MrPaulRevere
I don't like ACORNS politics, I don't like their tactics, I don't like their record of dubious legality and I strongly object to ANY partisan political organization receiving federal funds. Having said all of that, I'm not obsessed with them. I don't do derangement syndromes.
I don't exactly think about them every day. But I don't think bringing them up or pointing out their vile history amounts to a "derangement syndrome."
| 984 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:51:31pm |
| 985 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:51:46pm |
| 986 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:52:32pm |
OT: This one of the sickest things I've ever read. If anyone can't see the relative righteousness of our cause after this, they never will.
Taliban Paying Thousands to Use Kids as Homicide Bombers
I hope there's a special place in Hell for these sick scumbags.
| 987 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:52:44pm |
re: #982 pink freud
Why thank you Gus, I wasn't going to bother. This one knows better anyway.
I hear you. I know it's not going to have any effect but it's easy. Just some quick copying and formatting in WordPerfect 10 and pasting here.
| 989 |
Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:52:51pm |
re: #964 doppelganglander
Are you going to see the AI tour?
Probably not. It's freaking almost 70 bucks. I'd love to see Adam, and Kris and Allison are really good too (especially Allison Iraheta, who has a gorgeous smoky rock voice, is cute as a button, and is still under-age and a total little ball of fire), but I don't think I can sit through Gokey and what not. Expecially not Gokey, who is imho a homophobic troll.
| 990 |
Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:53:26pm |
re: #981 Noam Sayin'
I like the one where they tie him up and make him watch.
I hate myself for chuckling at that. :D
| 991 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:54:00pm |
re: #986 Dark_Falcon
OT: This one of the sickest things I've ever read. If anyone can't see the relative righteousness of our cause after this, they never will.
Taliban Paying Thousands to Use Kids as Homicide Bombers
I hope there's a special place in Hell for these sick scumbags.
There is, and our Marines are punching their ticket to check-in.
| 992 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:54:25pm |
re: #990 Catttt
I hate myself for chuckling at that. :D
well don't...he speaks for alot of us....woohoo!
| 993 |
pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:54:31pm |
re: #975 pat
Did you guys see Jaun Williams on the Cap and Trade Bill mandating a Federal Energy Audit and Inspection of your home before you can sell it? He was not happy. Wondering if the Dems have lost their minds. Fourth Amendement out the fucking window like a piece of trash. Contracts clause? What is that? Penumbra of the Ninth Amendment? Not when we are in charge. Crazy people.
Yes. Yes.
Nice to see Williams speaking out about this.
| 995 |
MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:55:28pm |
re: #983 Gus 802
I immediately regretted posting that one second after I did. Please, I hope no one interpreted that as as personal criticism. The last two sentences of that post were unnecessary.....
| 996 |
austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:55:29pm |
re: #949 Dark_Falcon
Not really. It means you probably voted for Obama, which is a bigger act of insanity than creationism.
Yup. Warts and all. And if you think voting for Obama is worse than believing in Creationism, I must ask, why? I mean, one is a political decision based on the qualities of the two candidates, the other is delusion. I suppose that I might have been deluded into voting for what I perceived to be the better candidate to lead our country for four years, given the option of McCain, but really, I made the choice eyes wide open and not driven by religious ideology.
| 997 |
Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:55:45pm |
re: #989 Catttt
Probably not. It's freaking almost 70 bucks. I'd love to see Adam, and Kris and Allison are really good too (especially Allison Iraheta, who has a gorgeous smoky rock voice, is cute as a button, and is still under-age and a total little ball of fire), but I don't think I can sit through Gokey and what not. Expecially not Gokey, who is imho a homophobic troll.
Plus I love the faces Allison makes when Gokey gets too close to her (he's constantly sticking himself to her like glue, and you can tell she wants to barf on his shoes).
| 999 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:56:31pm |
re: #995 MrPaulRevere
I immediately regretted posting that one second after I did. Please, I hope no one interpreted that as as personal criticism. The last two sentences of that post were unnecessary.....
Roger. No problem.
| 1000 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:56:57pm |
re: #994 Catttt
Hey lizards, hungry? Cricket!
I get huge, mega crickets in my bunkhouse....they are extremely loud...I hunt them down with Raid.....Cricket Cong...it's no joke
| 1001 |
NY Nana Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:57:04pm |
re: #923 pat
I didn't know that either.
I looked into his avatar...I was not posting til now, and missed it.
| 1002 |
Kronocide Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:57:48pm |
Does ACORN Recieve Federal Funding?
From ACORN's own website:
Does ACORN Recieve Federal Funding?
The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now does not apply for nor does it receive any federal grants.
ACORN has had contracts with other nonprofit organizations to perform work on projects which received federal grant support. For example, ACORN has received contracts to:
* Identify families eligible to receive food stamps and assist them to apply.
* Identify homeowners facing foreclosure and deliver them for housing counseling and loss mitigation services.
* Provide lead paint remediation services to households with children living in older neighborhoods.
The contracts that ACORN receives on these projects are for delivering specific activities, all of which are tax-exempt qualified in accordance with federal grant guidelines. No payments are received until work product has been delivered.
None of ACORN's contracts to perform work on projects receiving federal grant money has provided funding for voter registration.
Interesting. ACORN says they don't receive any federal funding but advocates or 'delivers' federal funding through programs. The dough doesn't pass through their hands, but ACORN clearly and unequivacably influences federal funding in a community organizing association.
ACORN receives funding from some private sources, spends the money on pursuing more federal funding, and hires people to advocate for those causes for little or no pay or on a volunteer basis.
Though they may not receive a dime in funds, they are influencing the funding of many federal programs. The question is, how much and what programs. I'd like to know.
| 1003 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:58:09pm |
re: #960 Catttt
The only problem - Freddie's dead.
You're such a bunch of old coots.
I knew someone would link an old tape. Queen wasn't playing with the great (miss him tons) Mr. Mercury. They hotfooted it to Nokia Center to play with Adam. Past is prologue.
Adam's doing some Bowie in the AI tour. :D
re: #960 Catttt
I know he's dead. But albusteve said he missed him and I wanted to give steve a clip that he would like.
| 1004 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:59:27pm |
re: #990 Catttt
I hate myself for chuckling at that. :D
I almost regretted posting it.
But the set-up was perfect. I couldn't resist.
| 1006 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 10:59:54pm |
re: #996 austin_blue
Yup. Warts and all. And if you think voting for Obama is worse than believing in Creationism, I must ask, why? I mean, one is a political decision based on the qualities of the two candidates, the other is delusion. I suppose that I might have been deluded into voting for what I perceived to be the better candidate to lead our country for four years, given the option of McCain, but really, I made the choice eyes wide open and not driven by religious ideology.
what a laugher!....no delusion with BO, nope....liberals are fucking delusional...did you just fall off the banana boat?
| 1007 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:00:39pm |
| 1008 |
swamprat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:00:55pm |
re: #994 Catttt
Hey lizards, hungry? Cricket!
Sound effects for Austin Blue:
Gee fellahs, isn't ACORN just an under funded right wing boogeyman?
Seems to have been muffled by a deluge of those fact-things.
| 1009 |
pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:01:11pm |
re: #1006 albusteve
what a laugher!....no delusion with BO, nope....liberals are fucking delusional...did you just fall off the banana boat?
I thought this was the laugher:
"...voting for what I perceived to be the better candidate to lead our country for four years"
| 1010 |
austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:01:21pm |
re: #957 Gus 802
Some of ACORNS transgressions (Part 1)
In 2003 ACORN submitted 5,379 voter-registration cards to St. Louis, Missouri election-board officials, who later determined that only 2,013 of the cards appeared to be valid.
In 2006 approximately 20,000 questionable voter-registration forms were turned in by ACORN officials in Missouri -- virtually all in the St. Louis and Kansas City areas, where ACORN professed a commitment to empowering the "disenfranchised" minorities living there.
Between March 23 and October 1, 2008, ACORN and other "get-out-the-vote" groups submitted at least 252,595 registrations to the Philadelphia County Election Board; of those, 57,435 were rejected for faulty information. Most of the fraudulent forms -- which featured fake social security numbers, incorrect birthdates, forged or duplicate signatures, and non-existent addresses -- were submitted by ACORN.
In Centre County, Pennsylvania -- the home of Penn State University and its 40,000 students -- former state Supreme Court Justice Sandra Newman complained in 2008 about a "massive effort" to fraudulently register those students. "I am not confident we can get a fair election," Newman said.
In Erie County, Pennsylvania in 2008, students at local colleges were targeted in "student registration drives" designed to register voters multiple times. The county's director of elections reported that the "same handwriting" appeared on a large number of applications.
In October 2008, Philadelphia's City Commissioners voted unanimously to present to the U.S. Attorney some 50,663 fraudulent voter-registration forms submitted by ACORN. These included 35,888 duplicates; 689 that were filled out by people too young to vote; 2,108 with missing signatures; 5,093 with phony addresses; and 6,161 not eligible because they were missing a valid HAVA (Help America Vote Act) number.
In 2004 a Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokesman said that ACORN had been "singled out" among suspected voter-registration groups as "the common thread" in the agency's statewide fraud investigations.
In 2004 Mark Wilson, vice president of the Florida Chamber of Commerce, said that efforts to register felons and to submit fraudulent voter-registration forms were "so widespread" that "t just seems to be a systemic approach to take advantage of our lax registration laws."
Among the 1,320 voter-registration forms that ACORN filed in Brevard County, Florida in 2008, fully two-thirds contained the names of people who had been previously registered. One Miami individual in particular filled out 21 duplicate applications.
In 2008 in Indianapolis (where ACORN was very active), the number of registered voters exceeded the official population of voting-age adults by 33,204.
In Lake County, Indiana, ACORN submitted 5,000 voter-registration applications in early October 2008. Of the first 2,100 that were analyzed by election officials, every single one was fraudulent. "All the signatures looked exactly the same," said Republican election official Ruthann Hoagland. "Everything on the card filled out looks exactly the same." Hoagland's Democratic colleague, Sally LaSota, concurred: "We're not handwriting experts, but what's obvious is obvious." The fake registrants included dead people and under-age children.
Thank you. My point exactly. When you pay minimum wage to idiots to collect voter registrations, you get a tremendous amount of crap, none of which passed muster with the Registrars of the various States and none of whom actually voted.
| 1011 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:01:43pm |
re: #1002 BigPapa
I was gonna post that but it seemed inconclusive...Soros gives them an allowance, I'd bet my life on it....moving illicit funds around is so easy, a caveman can do it
| 1012 |
sngnsgt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:01:43pm |
re: #980 sngnsgt
I just moved to N Las Vegas from Erie. You can get high-speed interweb there, but it's limited and not cheap. We had ours through the cable company.
Also to add, the only way you can get is if you bundle cable services. I.E. buy HBO, Showtime, etc. on sattelite and you can get it.
| 1013 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:02:17pm |
re: #1010 austin_blue
Thank you. My point exactly. When you pay minimum wage to idiots to collect voter registrations, you get a tremendous amount of crap, none of which passed muster with the Registrars of the various States and none of whom actually voted.
/beep beep!
| 1014 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:02:22pm |
re: #996 austin_blue
Creationism, if not forced on others, is relatively harmless, though it is still utterly wrong. Voting for Obama was a act that, because it was done by too many people, threatens to do irrevocable damage to our nation. Obama is a disaster, and you should have known he would be.
| 1015 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:02:42pm |
McCain would NOT have tripled down on the Trillion dollar deficit.
Game. Set. Match.
| 1016 |
pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:02:58pm |
re: #1010 austin_blue
Thank you. My point exactly. When you pay minimum wage to idiots to collect voter registrations, you get a tremendous amount of crap, none of which passed muster with the Registrars of the various States and none of whom actually voted.
Your naivete isn't crippling?
| 1017 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:03:27pm |
re: #1009 pink freud
I thought this was the laugher:
"...voting for what I perceived to be the better candidate to lead our country for four years"
I never post this late anymore...I had no idea there were lunatics up this late..."better to lead!"....good grief
| 1018 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:03:45pm |
| 1019 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:04:22pm |
re: #1010 austin_blue
Thank you. My point exactly. When you pay minimum wage to idiots to collect voter registrations, you get a tremendous amount of crap, none of which passed muster with the Registrars of the various States and none of whom actually voted.
That's not my point.
| 1020 |
capitalist piglet Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:04:31pm |
re: #996 austin_blue
Yup. Warts and all. And if you think voting for Obama is worse than believing in Creationism, I must ask, why? I mean, one is a political decision based on the qualities of the two candidates, the other is delusion. I suppose that I might have been deluded into voting for what I perceived to be the better candidate to lead our country for four years, given the option of McCain, but really, I made the choice eyes wide open and not driven by religious ideology.
Look at the way people view Obama, and tell me it's any different than a religious ideology. The man-child as been called "God", for heaven's sake. Videos were made with celebrities praying. A song was written with the lyric, "Barack Obama, be thy name". People had their children singing about him.
At least religious people know the difference between Obama and God.
| 1021 |
pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:04:44pm |
re: #1017 albusteve
I never post this late anymore...I had no idea there were lunatics up this late..."better to lead!"....good grief
This has become their new prime time. LNDT has become popular.
| 1022 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:04:58pm |
Oh, and the knock on McCain was he didn't know that much about economics. Hows Obama's economics working out?
| 1023 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:05:02pm |
re: #1010 austin_blue
Thank you. My point exactly. When you pay minimum wage to idiots to collect voter registrations, you get a tremendous amount of crap, none of which passed muster with the Registrars of the various States and none of whom actually voted.
these are BOs droolers!...minimum wage idiots!....you're catching on
| 1024 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:05:04pm |
re: #1011 albusteve
I was gonna post that but it seemed inconclusive...Soros gives them an allowance, I'd bet my life on it....moving illicit funds around is so easy, a caveman can do it
cue the indignant response from the GEICO cavemen. ;)
| 1025 |
Syrah Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:05:26pm |
re: #1010 austin_blue
Thank you. My point exactly. When you pay minimum wage to idiots to collect voter registrations, you get a tremendous amount of crap, none of which passed muster with the Registrars of the various States and none of whom actually voted.
That is kind of like going before the judge and arguing: "Your Honor, my clients are not criminals, they are morons."
| 1026 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:05:35pm |
re: #1022 Racer X
Oh, and the knock on McCain was he didn't know that much about economics. Hows Obama's economics working out?
9.5 percent unemployment. Possibly well into double digits unofficially.
| 1027 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:05:53pm |
re: #1022 Racer X
Oh, and the knock on McCain was he didn't know that much about economics. Hows Obama's economics working out?
/PALIN SUCKS!
| 1028 |
pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:06:11pm |
re: #1018 Killian Bundy
/ask it about cap & trade
Thanks, but no. I don't need a self-deluded Austin, TX lib extolling the merits of that piece of crap.
| 1030 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:06:45pm |
re: #1026 Gus 802
9.5 percent unemployment. Possibly well into double digits unofficially.
All Bush's fault!
/head back in sand up ass.
| 1031 |
austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:06:45pm |
re: #1006 albusteve
what a laugher!....no delusion with BO, nope....liberals are fucking delusional...did you just fall off the banana boat?
For me, it's all about public policy. I disagreed with the direction that the R's were taking us. So I voted for Obama. It's not an all out war for me. I just wanted some balance in the Social Contract, the basis of the Constitution, which I thought was swinging too far to the right. Chances are that we agree on numerous issues.
| 1032 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:06:57pm |
re: #1021 pink freud
This has become their new prime time. LNDT has become popular.
I used to hang out here til the wee hours...posted all night a few times...things changed
| 1033 |
Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:07:23pm |
re: #1007 Racer X
Thanks for that! Will share with others, over the weekend!
Celebrating freedom, rocks!
| 1034 |
MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:07:28pm |
When you think of 'green jobs', remember a guy caulking windows is a green job....yeah, that's the ticket. Obama will fail because he's trying to pound a square hole into a peg.
| 1035 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:07:49pm |
| 1036 |
ArchangelMichael Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:07:57pm |
re: #1022 Racer X
Oh, and the knock on McCain was he didn't know that much about economics. Hows Obama's economics working out?
Neither McCain nor Obama know anything about economics. McCain was honest about it. Obama went the smoke, mirrors, and bullshit route.
| 1037 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:07:59pm |
re: #1030 Racer X
All Bush's fault!
/head back
in sandup ass.
Blame Bush first!
Also, never doubt the Official Church of Barack Obama!
//
| 1038 |
Kronocide Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:08:53pm |
re: #1011 albusteve
I was gonna post that but it seemed inconclusive...Soros gives them an allowance...
It's conclusive in that ACORN states that they advocate or influence funding for various and sundry causes, thought the actual dollars don't flow through their hands.
I think it's a tad disingenuous to say that they don't get any funding, though technically they may not. It's similar to saying "I didn't buy any drugs" though you brought your friend over to the drug house to buy drugs, then your friend bought the drugs.
| 1039 |
pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:09:07pm |
re: #1031 austin_blue
For me, it's all about public policy. I disagreed with the direction that the R's were taking us. So I voted for Obama. It's not an all out war for me. I just wanted some balance in the Social Contract, the basis of the Constitution, which I thought was swinging too far to the right. Chances are that we agree on numerous issues.
What is this "balance in the Social Contract"?
| 1040 |
sngnsgt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:09:10pm |
re: #1036 ArchangelMichael
Neither McCain nor Obama know anything about economics. McCain was honest about it. Obama went the smoke, mirrors, and bullshit route.
Obamanomics! Change!
| 1041 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:09:33pm |
re: #1026 Gus 802
9.5 percent unemployment. Possibly well into double digits unofficially.
/how much more can Obama and all Michelle's children and all the President's men suck at math and economic policy?
| 1042 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:09:46pm |
re: #1031 austin_blue
For me, it's all about public policy. I disagreed with the direction that the R's were taking us. So I voted for Obama. It's not an all out war for me. I just wanted some balance in the Social Contract, the basis of the Constitution, which I thought was swinging too far to the right. Chances are that we agree on numerous issues.
don't come any closer please....voting for BO indicates astounding disconnect from reality...it's contagious...for me it is an all out war
| 1043 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:09:56pm |
re: #1039 pink freud
What is this "balance in the Social Contract"?
A. Freebies
B. Gold Bricking
C. Cradle to Grave
D. Socialism
| 1044 |
Syrah Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:09:59pm |
re: #1039 pink freud
It is an indicator of the unconstrained.
| 1045 |
pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:10:00pm |
re: #1032 albusteve
I used to hang out here til the wee hours...posted all night a few times...things changed
Yes, they did.
Nice to have you hanging around this late. :-)
Now if we could just get Jackson to come back.
| 1046 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:10:36pm |
re: #1036 ArchangelMichael
Neither McCain nor Obama know anything about economics. McCain was honest about it. Obama went the smoke, mirrors, and bullshit route.
One could only hope that a sort of anti-Michael Moore comes out with a documentary in about a year outlining all the Obama bullshit America has been fed.
iwishiwishiwish.
| 1047 |
MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:11:09pm |
re: #1034 MrPaulRevere
PIMF, you know what I meant..Pounding a square peg into a round hole
| 1048 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:11:15pm |
re: #1031 austin_blue
For me, it's all about public policy. I disagreed with the direction that the R's were taking us. So I voted for Obama. It's not an all out war for me. I just wanted some balance in the Social Contract, the basis of the Constitution, which I thought was swinging too far to the right. Chances are that we agree on numerous issues.
"Balance in the Social Contract"? What are you smoking, and where can I get a supply to sell? Obama does not bring balance to the social contract he plans to upend it with his nationalization of health care, ACORN voter fraud, and productivity punishing taxes. Your words are foolish. Period.
| 1049 |
austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:11:29pm |
re: #1014 Dark_Falcon
Creationism, if not forced on others, is relatively harmless, though it is still utterly wrong. Voting for Obama was a act that, because it was done by too many people, threatens to do irrevocable damage to our nation. Obama is a disaster, and you should have known he would be.
Maybe. But Creationism *is* being forced on others by its proponents.
As for Obama's policies, we will just have to wait and see. Claiming at this point that they are an *EPIC FAIL* is silly. We just don't know yet. Maybe yes, maybe no.
| 1050 |
ArchangelMichael Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:11:40pm |
re: #1046 Racer X
One could only hope that a sort of anti-Michael Moore comes out with a documentary in about a year outlining all the Obama bullshit America has been fed.
iwishiwishiwish.
I know what you mean but I'm not holding my breath. Ziegler might do one but it will be rejected knee-jerk by its target audience because of who he is.
| 1051 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:11:42pm |
re: #1041 Killian Bundy
[Video]
/how much more can Obama and all Michelle's children and all the President's men suck at math and economic policy?
Excellent!
Everyone else, watch this!
| 1052 |
swamprat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:12:07pm |
re: #1010 austin_blue
Thank you. My point exactly. When you pay minimum wage to idiots to collect voter registrations, you get a tremendous amount of crap, none of which passed muster with the Registrars of the various States and none of whom actually voted.
Yeah. A Chicago mistake.
No officer that 50 just stuck to my license.
That check I sent had some extra zeros and was made out to your son by mistake, I'll have my secretary take care of it at once.
We accidentally knocked down your building. We meant to demolish a similar building with a similar address. Did you know your garbage bill is 5 years in arrears?
| 1053 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:12:59pm |
I see we have one on-the-hook...
Alright. Let him take some line. He'll wear himself out, shortly.
| 1054 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:13:21pm |
re: #1038 BigPapa
It's conclusive in that ACORN states that they advocate or influence funding for various and sundry causes, thought the actual dollars don't flow through their hands.
I think it's a tad disingenuous to say that they don't get any funding, though technically they may not. It's similar to saying "I didn't buy any drugs" though you brought your friend over to the drug house to buy drugs, then your friend bought the drugs.
right...but I'm not clever enough to put that to argument like you can...I'd look foolish trying to explain that to some donk that's after me...good job
| 1055 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:13:30pm |
re: #1049 austin_blue
Maybe. But Creationism *is* being forced on others by its proponents.
As for Obama's policies, we will just have to wait and see. Claiming at this point that they are an *EPIC FAIL* is silly. We just don't know yet. Maybe yes, maybe no.
| 1056 |
Kronocide Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:13:53pm |
re: #1031 austin_blue
For me, it's all about public policy. I disagreed with the direction that the R's were taking us. So I voted for Obama. It's not an all out war for me. I just wanted some balance in the Social Contract, the basis of the Constitution, which I thought was swinging too far to the right.
I'm puzzled by this statement. On fiscal issues, R's were actually swinging to the left. On security issues, holding strong, although not perfect. Where was this swinging too far to the right?
| 1057 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:14:30pm |
re: #1045 pink freud
Yes, they did.
Nice to have you hanging around this late. :-)
Now if we could just get Jackson to come back.
yes, I miss her...she has some issues and I think about her often...she's tough and will come flying in one of these days
| 1058 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:14:31pm |
re: #1049 austin_blue
Maybe. But Creationism *is* being forced on others by its proponents.
As for Obama's policies, we will just have to wait and see. Claiming at this point that they are an *EPIC FAIL* is silly. We just don't know yet. Maybe yes, maybe no.
You're fookin' kiddin' right?
Obama's policies are being crammed up America's ass. No lube. Socialism here we come. Triple down on the deficit without blinking an eye.
"We just dont know yet" whether his policies will fail? Are you kidding? Open your eyes. Take a guess.
| 1059 |
pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:15:05pm |
re: #1053 Noam Sayin'
I see we have one on-the-hook...
Alright. Let him take some line. He'll wear himself out, shortly.
It'll run. They always do. The argument is unsustainable ....they know it, we know it.
| 1060 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:15:10pm |
re: #1053 Noam Sayin'
I see we have one on-the-hook...
Alright. Let him take some line. He'll wear himself out, shortly.
Moby Moonbatfish!
//
| 1061 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:15:25pm |
| 1062 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:15:29pm |
re: #1058 Racer X
You're fookin' kiddin' right?
Obama's policies are being crammed up America's ass. No lube. Socialism here we come. Triple down on the deficit without blinking an eye.
"We just dont know yet" whether his policies will fail? Are you kidding? Open your eyes. Take a guess.
And go back and tell your dumbass friends.
| 1063 |
swamprat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:15:41pm |
Hey! Lets all forget about that nasty ole ACORN and talk about creationism!
| 1064 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:16:13pm |
re: #1049 austin_blue
Maybe. But Creationism *is* being forced on others by its proponents.
As for Obama's policies, we will just have to wait and see. Claiming at this point that they are an *EPIC FAIL* is silly. We just don't know yet. Maybe yes, maybe no.
1. I've always opposed forcing creationism in schools. I referring to the belief itself, not the actions of its adherents.
2. How can you not say Obama is a failure? How could these policies of his succeed?
| 1066 |
MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:16:46pm |
Caulking windows and rolling insulation in attics. The future of the American work force //
| 1067 |
austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:16:50pm |
re: #1039 pink freud
What is this "balance in the Social Contract"?
Here:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
This is what our Constitution is based on. This is what drove the Founders. This is what was revolutionary about the American experiment. It is the balance of these forces that we have been arguing about since 1786. It is purely secular.
| 1068 |
pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:17:14pm |
re: #1057 albusteve
yes, I miss her...she has some issues and I think about her often...she's tough and will come flying in one of these days
She's one that walked the walk didn't just talk the talk, politically. Damn straight, tough as nails.
| 1069 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:17:24pm |
re: #1049 austin_blue
Maybe. But Creationism *is* being forced on others by its proponents.
As for Obama's policies, we will just have to wait and see. Claiming at this point that they are an *EPIC FAIL* is silly. We just don't know yet. Maybe yes, maybe no.
people are gonna forget creationism real fast when they freeze at night and gas is $6 a gallon....why are you affraid of nuclear energy? or do you disagree with your liberal minions over it's undeniable advantages?
| 1070 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:17:42pm |
Public policy?
Are we aware of any private policy?
You know? Maybe we should just throw this one back.
| 1071 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:18:02pm |
re: #1066 MrPaulRevere
Caulking windows and rolling insulation in attics. The future of the American work force //
Blow dryer - check.
X-acto knife - check.
Tape - check.
//
| 1072 |
pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:18:10pm |
re: #1058 Racer X
You're fookin' kiddin' right?
Obama's policies are being crammed up America's ass. No lube. Socialism here we come. Triple down on the deficit without blinking an eye.
"We just dont know yet" whether his policies will fail? Are you kidding? Open your eyes. Take a guess.
In lib-land, that sort of thinking IS open-eyed.
| 1073 |
BignJames Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:18:11pm |
re: #1064 Dark_Falcon
1. I've always opposed forcing creationism in schools. I referring to the belief itself, not the actions of its adherents.
2. How can you not say Obama is a failure? How could these policies of his succeed?
What! You dare to dis His Awesomeness.
| 1074 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:18:22pm |
re: #1053 Noam Sayin'
I see we have one on-the-hook...
Alright. Let him take some line. He'll wear himself out, shortly.
hand me a beer....
| 1075 |
Dancing along the light of day Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:18:52pm |
Good night, all.
The grill is prepped & ready to go!
Please save me some, so I can have it for breakfast?
| 1076 |
swamprat Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:19:06pm |
must sleep
Have fun
don't take anything too seriously, austin
| 1077 |
pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:19:28pm |
re: #1063 swamprat
Hey! Lets all forget about that nasty ole ACORN and talk about creationism!
Like a lead balloon.
| 1078 |
Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:19:37pm |
re: #1049 austin_blue
Maybe. But Creationism *is* being forced on others by its proponents.
As for Obama's policies, we will just have to wait and see. Claiming at this point that they are an *EPIC FAIL* is silly. We just don't know yet. Maybe yes, maybe no.
When you drink some milk and find it is sour, do you put it back in the fridge and then try it again the next day? No. So why do you think that President Obama's epic fail economic policies - which have ALWAYS FAILED when tried by others in the past, will have a change to succeed now?
| 1079 |
austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:20:03pm |
re: #1056 BigPapa
I'm puzzled by this statement. On fiscal issues, R's were actually swinging to the left. On security issues, holding strong, although not perfect. Where was this swinging too far to the right?
Tax policy in a time of war. Lack of regulatory oversight in banking and finance (Lots of blame on both sides of the aisle on the latter, but McCain was too laissez faire. The problem wasn't going to fix itself.)
| 1080 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:20:17pm |
re: #1053 Noam Sayin'
He'll wear himself out, shortly.
It's a veteran, allowed to stay.
/you now need at least 20# test at LGF lately
| 1081 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:20:29pm |
re: #1075 Floral Giraffe
Good night, all.
The grill is prepped & ready to go!
Please save me some, so I can have it for breakfast?
LOL "Nite. I'm mostly just lurking here getting a kick out of the thread. Will save you some BBQ.
| 1082 |
Syrah Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:20:48pm |
re: #1079 austin_blue
Tax policy in a time of war. Lack of regulatory oversight in banking and finance (Lots of blame on both sides of the aisle on the latter, but McCain was too laissez faire. The problem wasn't going to fix itself.)
McCain was not "Moderate" enough?
| 1083 |
capitalist piglet Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:20:50pm |
re: #1049 austin_blue
Maybe. But Creationism *is* being forced on others by its proponents.
As for Obama's policies, we will just have to wait and see. Claiming at this point that they are an *EPIC FAIL* is silly. We just don't know yet. Maybe yes, maybe no.
Obviously, you didn't watch the video Killian posted.
What the hell do you think happens when you pile massive debt, financial burden, and excessive regulation on Americans and American businesses?
| 1084 |
Kronocide Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:21:49pm |
re: #1049 austin_blue
As for Obama's policies, we will just have to wait and see. Claiming at this point that they are an *EPIC FAIL* is silly. We just don't know yet.
When will we know? When will it be OK to say "It's been long enough, yes, they are x." 2, 4, 10, 20 years?
The Stimulus was the largest spending plan ever, by all metrics. It's borrowed money, most of which has not been spent yet and most of the bill has not been read by the vast majority of people voting for it. It's based on principles previously disparaged by the very people who so staunchly promote it. It's based on government spending that's questionably beneficial, to put it mildly.
To say 'we'll just have to wait and see, claiming at this point it's a fail is silly.' Your statement is silly.
| 1085 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:21:58pm |
re: #1067 austin_blue
Here:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
This is what our Constitution is based on. This is what drove the Founders. This is what was revolutionary about the American experiment. It is the balance of these forces that we have been arguing about since 1786. It is purely secular.
Bullshit.
| 1086 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:22:33pm |
Again, ask it about cap and trade.
/it's a classic
| 1087 |
NY Nana Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:22:41pm |
re: #1014 Dark_Falcon
I regret that I have only 1 up-ding to give you on that post.
G'nite, all. I am off to sleep! Sweet dreams, Lizards!
| 1088 |
austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:23:20pm |
re: #1069 albusteve
people are gonna forget creationism real fast when they freeze at night and gas is $6 a gallon....why are you affraid of nuclear energy? or do you disagree with your liberal minions over it's undeniable advantages?
I am a strong proponent of nuclear energy and where did that come from? You make assumptions, my friend. Gas prices will be determined by the market, and yes, if the Chinese and Indians want to drive cars then gas will be significantly north of $6.00.
| 1089 |
capitalist piglet Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:23:46pm |
I like my hair, which is why I must be leaving, before I tear it out.
Good night, Lizards. Keep up the good work.
| 1090 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:24:08pm |
re: #1079 austin_blue
Tax policy in a time of war. Lack of regulatory oversight in banking and finance (Lots of blame on both sides of the aisle on the latter, but McCain was too laissez faire. The problem wasn't going to fix itself.)
thats just bullshit...the donks have owned the House since 06...check the voting record...like...history dood
| 1091 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:24:22pm |
re: #1087 NY Nana
I regret that I have only 1 up-ding to give you on that post.
G'nite, all. I am off to sleep! Sweet dreams, Lizards!
'Nite, Nana.
| 1092 |
Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:24:28pm |
re: #1080 Killian Bundy
It's a veteran, allowed to stay.
/you now need at least 20# test at LGF lately
With such weak arguments?
We're getting soft.
| 1093 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:25:24pm |
re: #1082 Syrah
McCain was not "Moderate" enough?
he was so moderate he could have been nominated by the donks themselves!
| 1094 |
NY Nana Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:25:38pm |
re: #1081 Pvt Bin Jammin
G'nite, lurker Pvt Bin Jammin! Sweet dreams!
| 1095 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:25:42pm |
re: #1079 austin_blue
Tax policy in a time of war.
I know - lets triple the deficit within 6 months of taking office!
Lack of regulatory oversight in banking and finance (Lots of blame on both sides of the aisle on the latter, but McCain was too laissez faire.
Translation:
Republicans didn't do enough to stop Bawny Fwank, Chris Dodd, Franklin Raines, et al.
The problem wasn't going to fix itself.)
Who has been in control of congress the past 3 years?
| 1096 |
austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:26:04pm |
re: #1085 Racer X
Bullshit.
Oh, my. Not a student of history? I know it can sometimes be inconvenient.
| 1098 |
MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:26:31pm |
Irony of ironies, Obama is repeating the same economic policy mistakes Richard Nixon did. Say what you will about Bill Clinton, he was much better with economic policy.
| 1099 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:26:46pm |
re: #1088 austin_blue
I am a strong proponent of nuclear energy and where did that come from? You make assumptions, my friend. Gas prices will be determined by the market, and yes, if the Chinese and Indians want to drive cars then gas will be significantly north of $6.00.
liberals hate all forms of energy that are readily available...that's where it comes from
| 1100 |
mrshankly01 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:26:58pm |
re: #1098 MrPaulRevere
he was helped by having to share power.
| 1101 |
Gus Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:27:09pm |
re: #1079 austin_blue
Tax policy in a time of war. Lack of regulatory oversight in banking and finance (Lots of blame on both sides of the aisle on the latter, but McCain was too laissez faire. The problem wasn't going to fix itself.)
Contradiction. McCain voted for TARP 1. A true laissez faire politician would not have voted for TARP 1.
| 1102 |
BignJames Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:27:19pm |
re: #1078 Catttt
When you drink some milk and find it is sour, do you put it back in the fridge and then try it again the next day? No. So why do you think that President Obama's epic fail economic policies - which have ALWAYS FAILED when tried by others in the past, will have a change to succeed now?
They're new and improved?
| 1103 |
Kronocide Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:27:30pm |
| 1104 |
Syrah Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:27:46pm |
re: #1093 albusteve
he was so moderate he could have been nominated by the donks themselves!
We could have nominated Clinton, or even Obama, and they would just have moved the goal post even further to the left.
| 1105 |
mrshankly01 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:27:53pm |
re: #1098 MrPaulRevere
the best government is a split government.
| 1106 |
austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:28:42pm |
re: #1090 albusteve
thats just bullshit...the donks have owned the House since 06...check the voting record...like...history dood
Dood, do you really think the meltdown of the economy, which started in late '07 could really have been influenced by a Congress that took office 10 months earlier without control of the Senate?
Really?
| 1107 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:28:51pm |
re: #1096 austin_blue
Oh, my. Not a student of history? I know it can sometimes be inconvenient.
Quiet!
The tractor pull races are on.
| 1108 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:29:21pm |
re: #1098 MrPaulRevere
Irony of ironies, Obama is repeating the same economic policy mistakes Richard Nixon did. Say what you will about Bill Clinton, he was much better with economic policy.
yes, sometimes sitting back and doing nothing is exactly the right thing to do....BO is intentionally wrecking the economy....we talked about it all last year and people said I was crazy to even think that
| 1109 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:30:45pm |
re: #1104 Syrah
We could have nominated Clinton, or even Obama, and they would just have moved the goal post even further to the left.
ya can't win I tell ya...fuckers are crazy
| 1110 |
pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:30:45pm |
Second shift should be getting ready to crank up.
| 1111 |
mrshankly01 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:30:50pm |
exciting thread tonight. everyone have a holiday tomorrow? when is the overnight coming?
| 1112 |
MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:31:06pm |
re: #1105 mrshankly01
I emphatically agree. Nixon and his team however, embraced the conventional economic wisdom of the day, which was Keynesian.
| 1113 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:31:16pm |
re: #1106 austin_blue
Dood, do you really think the meltdown of the economy, which started in late '07 could really have been influenced by a Congress that took office 10 months earlier without control of the Senate?
Really?
You've seen the videos on Youtube of the senate testimony from Bawney, Chris, and Maxine warning Republicans to back-off from that nice guy Franklin Raines right?
| 1114 |
Catttt Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:31:23pm |
Sigh. It's not easy being economically conservative. Luckily, I work for an economically conservative company with no debt, 15.98% return for a 12-month rolling year. Just bought land, started new offering, paying dividends. Yada yada. Squeaky clean. I'm lucky.
Too bad all those people on Cap Hill, in between power eating and screwing around, want me to pay for the companies that suck.
| 1115 |
albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:31:47pm |
re: #1106 austin_blue
Dood, do you really think the meltdown of the economy, which started in late '07 could really have been influenced by a Congress that took office 10 months earlier without control of the Senate?
Really?
yes, most certainly and Barney Frank knows it
| 1116 |
Kronocide Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:32:58pm |
re: #1079 austin_blue
Lack of regulatory oversight in banking and finance (Lots of blame on both sides of the aisle on the latter, but McCain was too laissez faire. The problem wasn't going to fix itself.)
So, the GOP had a culpability in the regulatory oversight in banking and finance. Let's go with that.
You chose to vote for the party that has a much worse record on those issues.
| 1117 |
mrshankly01 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:33:50pm |
re: #1112 MrPaulRevere
yea, i agree.
in Nixon's time, they were split the wrong way. i think a conservative congress and a liberal president are the best method. they both keep each other from spending like mad men. i.e. Clinton-Gingrich
| 1118 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:34:05pm |
re: #1096 austin_blue
Oh, my. Not a student of history? I know it can sometimes be inconvenient.
Nice snark, troll boy.
| 1119 |
Racer X Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:34:17pm |
I'm done. Tired and stoopid.
Nite all.
Happy 4th.
| 1121 |
Pvt Bin Jammin Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:34:59pm |
| 1122 |
MrPaulRevere Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:35:55pm |
re: #1117 mrshankly01
Or perhaps vice versa. It worked for Reagan.
| 1123 |
Killian Bundy Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:37:26pm |
re: #1106 austin_blue
Dood, do you really think the meltdown of the economy, which started in late '07 could really have been influenced by a Congress that took office 10 months earlier without control of the Senate?
Really?
Yes really and it runs way back.
/Barney Frank gone wild, CRA, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, where are the criminal indictments?
| 1124 |
austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:37:47pm |
re: #1095 Racer X
Who has been in control of congress the past 3 years?
Well, the Senate for seven months and not 60 votes until this week. That's significant. No legislation has been passed through a bullet proof Senate. Enough R's have gone along to allow every law to pass through.
| 1125 |
mrshankly01 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:38:51pm |
re: #1122 MrPaulRevere
yes, the economy was great through the mid to late eighties, but they did not control spending. that is what I am referring to. of course, Clinton had the peace dividend and Reagan was winning the cold war which begot the peace dividend.
| 1126 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:39:11pm |
re: #1124 austin_blue
Well, the Senate for seven months and not 60 votes until this week. That's significant. No legislation has been passed through a bullet proof Senate. Enough R's have gone along to allow every law to pass through.
All that proves is that moderates can be bought off with pork.
| 1127 |
austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:39:59pm |
re: #1118 Dark_Falcon
Nice snark, troll boy.
Really, not a troll. I'm not here to stir the pot. Just offering a different opinion. I thought that was the point of this board. If it's just and echo chamber, what good is it?
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:40:55pm |
re: #1127 austin_blue
Really, not a troll. I'm not here to stir the pot. Just offering a different opinion. I thought that was the point of this board. If it's just and echo chamber, what good is it?
respond to #1123
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austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:41:14pm |
re: #1116 BigPapa
So, the GOP had a culpability in the regulatory oversight in banking and finance. Let's go with that.
You chose to vote for the party that has a much worse record on those issues.
At least as bad, granted. So maybe it's time to fix the problem?
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:42:47pm |
re: #1129 austin_blue
At least as bad, granted. So maybe it's time to fix the problem?
the HORSE IS OUTA THE BARN!...where have you been?
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Kronocide Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:42:49pm |
re: #1106 austin_blue
Dood, do you really think the meltdown of the economy, which started in late '07 could really have been influenced by a Congress that took office 10 months earlier without control of the Senate?
In 2003, while the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee, Frank opposed a Bush administration proposal for transferring oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from Congress and the Department of Housing and Urban Development to a new agency that would be created within the Treasury Department. The proposal reflected the administration's belief that Congress "neither has the tools, nor the stature" for adequate oversight. Frank stated, "These two entities...are not facing any kind of financial crisis.... The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."[48] The two companies, which together own or back more than half the home mortgages in the US became "hobbled" by loan defaults.[49] Frank clarified in 2009 that Fannie and Freddie were not in crisis at the time and many financial institutions, like Lehman Brothers, also fell into crisis from 2003 to 2008.[50]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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Noam Sayin' Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:42:57pm |
re: #1127 austin_blue
Really, not a troll. I'm not here to stir the pot. Just offering a different opinion. I thought that was the point of this board. If it's just and echo chamber, what good is it?
I think many here are trying to point out to you that your arguments don't hold weight. That's why you're getting all the snark. We've been through this numerous times before. so, perhaps instead of being Cogndescending, you might ask an individual why she/he holds a certain opinion.
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Syrah Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:43:46pm |
So the Dems say: "You Republicans did not stop us from trashing the economy so its all your fault!"
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:44:46pm |
re: #1133 Syrah
So the Dems say: "You Republicans did not stop us from trashing the economy so its all your fault!"
maximum BDS...like dope
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:45:34pm |
re: #1129 austin_blue
At least as bad, granted. So maybe it's time to fix the problem?
Good idea. The problem is that Obama won't do that. All he'll do is pass regulations that make it harder to profit while still mandating loans to people who shouldn't receive them.
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mrshankly01 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:47:01pm |
re: #1135 Dark_Falcon
i think he is hoping people will give money out for free...silly rabbit
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Kronocide Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:47:50pm |
re: #1127 austin_blue
Just offering a different opinion. I thought that was the point of this board.
You're offering contrary statements, based on an opinion, but not a contrary argument.
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pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:48:35pm |
re: #1127 austin_blue
Really, not a troll. I'm not here to stir the pot. Just offering a different opinion. I thought that was the point of this board. If it's just and echo chamber, what good is it?
You support the policies of someone I believe is actively working to destroy this economy and bring this country to its knees. What he is rapidly implementing will affect my children for the rest of their lives, possibly in worse ways that I can even imagine at this point ...who knows how bad it will really get? So don't come in here and tell me you're 'just offering a different opinion." Opinions that support the policies and ideology of this atrocity of a "leader" are anathema to me.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:49:51pm |
re: #1129 austin_blue
At least as bad, granted. So maybe it's time to fix the problem?...
BO does not care about you...he never did...you will get your ass kicked just like the rest of us...your silly ideology is gonna cost you and he will laugh in your face...you should have just stayed home that day instead of expressing some dumb shit fantasy that cannot come true...you have been duped
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austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:50:10pm |
re: #1123 Killian Bundy
Yes really and it runs way back.
[Video]/Barney Frank gone wild, CRA, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, where are the criminal indictments?
Okay. This meltdown is not a mortgage problem. We had that in '87 and the S&L bailout cost us a bundle. This meltdown is a *derivatives* problem, where folks bundled those mortgages into several different iterations of "financial instruments" and sold them off to idiot investors. As long as housing prices increased, everybody was fat, dumb, and happy. When housing prices decreased the bottom fell out of the financial system. Were the D's culpable for pushing sub-prime loans? Of course. Were the investment banks culpable for turning those suspect loans into vast multiples of the original risk? Yes. I read somewhere an estimate of up to $13 trillion of worthless paper based on $2 trillion worth of sub-prime loans.
Does that answer the question?
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austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:52:20pm |
re: #1131 BigPapa
In 2003, while the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee, Frank opposed a Bush administration proposal for transferring oversight of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac from Congress and the Department of Housing and Urban Development to a new agency that would be created within the Treasury Department. The proposal reflected the administration's belief that Congress "neither has the tools, nor the stature" for adequate oversight. Frank stated, "These two entities...are not facing any kind of financial crisis.... The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."[48] The two companies, which together own or back more than half the home mortgages in the US became "hobbled" by loan defaults.[49] Frank clarified in 2009 that Fannie and Freddie were not in crisis at the time and many financial institutions, like Lehman Brothers, also fell into crisis from 2003 to 2008.[50]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
And Frank spoke for himself in 2003. The D's did not control Congress. Why didn't the R's tell Frank to kiss their ass and do what was right for the country?
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mrshankly01 Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:53:18pm |
re: #1140 austin_blue
YES, the Ds were culpable. But now they, in the form of Obama, Frank, Pelosi, etc. are pushing that the only people responsible for the mess was the Banks. They will not accept their own failings in this.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:55:33pm |
re: #1141 austin_blue
And Frank spoke for himself in 2003. The D's did not control Congress. Why didn't the R's tell Frank to kiss their ass and do what was right for the country?
Because they were afraid of the race issue. Franklin Raines is black and so were many people getting the bad loans. The Dems were calling the GOP Racist for even bring them issue up. Republicans should not have retreated, but they did so under attack by lies.
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pink freud Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:55:43pm |
re: #1142 mrshankly01
YES, the Ds were culpable. But now they, in the form of Obama, Frank, Pelosi, etc. are pushing that the only people responsible for the mess was the Banks. They will not accept their own failings in this.
I think it may have something to do with that whole 'balancing of the social contract' thing.
/
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austin_blue Thu, Jul 2, 2009 11:56:21pm |
re: #1132 Noam Sayin'
I think many here are trying to point out to you that your arguments don't hold weight. That's why you're getting all the snark. We've been through this numerous times before. so, perhaps instead of being Cogndescending, you might ask an individual why she/he holds a certain opinion.
I would be happy to do so, if I wasn't bashed by gratuitous snarks initially. Please read the thread through and see if I was the original snark. I don't think so. If I am wrong, I will humbly apologize. I believe it started with a post that responded to me as "bullshit".
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Kronocide Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:00:40am |
re: #1141 austin_blue
And Frank spoke for himself in 2003. The D's did not control Congress. Why didn't the R's tell Frank to kiss their ass and do what was right for the country?
Frank was the ranking member on the Financial Services committee and resisted changes that could have impacted or retarded the impending crash, along with other D's.
I suppose the D's should tell the R's to kiss their ass now that they have majority like Kos and a bunch of other D's suggest? That means they have nobody but themselves to blame for the next few years of this economy, blaming Bush even at this juncture is tenuous at best.
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:01:11am |
re: #1144 pink freud
Ha, the social contract... Funny thing is: the massive disparity between the poor in the US and the poor in the rest of the world. being poor in the US is being rich in the rest of the world. the reason for this, to paraphrase President Kennedey, is the "rising tide" brought about by a free and fair financial system. this will do more for the poor of this country than any welfare program could ever hope to do.
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:01:13am |
re: #1140 austin_blue
Okay. This meltdown is not a mortgage problem. This meltdown is a *derivatives* problem
And what is a derivative and what does it derive form?
/gee, you really are an idiot
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:02:18am |
re: #1143 Dark_Falcon
Because they were afraid of the race issue. Franklin Raines is black and so were many people getting the bad loans. The Dems were calling the GOP Racist for even bring them issue up. Republicans should not have retreated, but they did so under attack by lies.
Fanklin Delano Raines. Obama crony and Clinton appointee. Investigated and avoided jail time but got away with paying a reltively small fine. These were civil charges. Fannie had to pay a 400 million dollar fine to the Securities and Exchange Commission. Raines was fined 1 million dollars.
This was in 2006. I don't expect to see the Democrat Party calling for any further investigations. They're too busy calling for investigations of Bush lawyers regarding their involvement with enhanced interrogation techniques.
Yeah, what a great job the Democrat Party is doing. /
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:06:00am |
Ex-Fannie execs face civil charges
By Edward Iwata, USA TODAY
12/18/2006 10:12 PM ET
Federal regulators Monday filed civil charges against former Fannie Mae CEO Franklin Raines and two other former executives, accusing them of manipulating Fannie Mae's earnings to jack up their bonuses.
In a complaint with an administrative law judge, the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight detailed 101 charges from 1998 to 2004 against Raines, former chief financial officer Timothy Howard and former controller Leanne Spencer, who all resigned in 2003 as the Fannie Mae scandal worsened...
Democrat Franklin Raines was CEO of Fannie Mae. This occurred after the 2006 election. Had he been a Republican a congressional witch hunt would have been called for.
Link to official charges: [Link: fl1.findlaw.com...]
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Noam Sayin' Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:06:20am |
re: #1145 austin_blue
I would be happy to do so, if I wasn't bashed by gratuitous snarks initially. Please read the thread through and see if I was the original snark. I don't think so. If I am wrong, I will humbly apologize. I believe it started with a post that responded to me as "bullshit".
That's because he already knew your argument was bullshit. That should have been your signal. Did you miss the point of my post entirely?
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:08:16am |
re: #1148 Killian Bundy
And what is a derivative and what does it derive form?
/gee, you really are an idiot
I won't even wait for your response.
/derivatives aren't the problem, derivatives based on bull[expletive] mortgages, yeah, that's what took our economy down with a lot of Barney Frank, et al grease
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Noam Sayin' Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:08:30am |
re: #1148 Killian Bundy
I had a much longer response to that one, but I pulled it, figuring you would have a more concise version.
*doff*
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:08:35am |
re: #1147 mrshankly01
Ha, the social contract... Funny thing is: the massive disparity between the poor in the US and the poor in the rest of the world. being poor in the US is being rich in the rest of the world. the reason for this, to paraphrase President Kennedey, is the "rising tide" brought about by a free and fair financial system. this will do more for the poor of this country than any welfare program could ever hope to do.
Welfare creates dependence. Dependence creates victims. Victimhood is the cornerstone upon which the Democrat party is built. It's woven tightly into their worldview. It's here to stay. Lofty crap about a "social contract" is more hogwash. Sounds good, smells like shit.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:10:59am |
re: #1154 pink freud
Welfare creates dependence. Dependence creates victims. Victimhood is the cornerstone upon which the Democrat party is built. It's woven tightly into their worldview. It's here to stay. Lofty crap about a "social contract" is more hogwash. Sounds good, smells like shit.
And if you get caught or screw up the books, blame the regulators or the laws.
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austin_blue Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:11:08am |
re: #1146 BigPapa
Frank was the ranking member on the Financial Services committee and resisted changes that could have impacted or retarded the impending crash, along with other D's.
I suppose the D's should tell the R's to kiss their ass now that they have majority like Kos and a bunch of other D's suggest? That means they have nobody but themselves to blame for the next few years of this economy, blaming Bush even at this juncture is tenuous at best.
Fwank was a minority member on one committee and if you recall the President at the time was trumpeting the Ownership Society. Again, there are a lot of bad guys in this situation on both sides of the aisle.
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:11:47am |
re: #1153 Noam Sayin'
I had a much longer response to that one, but I pulled it, figuring you would have a more concise version.
*doff*
Keep it up.
/I'm just getting drunk, awesome June, markets closed until Monday
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:14:59am |
re: #1156 austin_blue
i will agree that compassionate conservatism does not work. result, the republicans got their clocks cleaned in the last two election cycles. again, though, the Democrats have not had to pay the piper and they are continuing their disastrous ways.
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Noam Sayin' Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:16:15am |
re: #1157 Killian Bundy
And my guess is, you got out right before that nose-dive.
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:17:07am |
To counter the DNC sockpuppet:
New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae
By STEPHEN LABATON
Published: Thursday, September 11, 2003
The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
Under the plan, disclosed at a Congressional hearing today, a new agency would be created within the Treasury Department to assume supervision of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the government-sponsored companies that are the two largest players in the mortgage lending industry.
The new agency would have the authority, which now rests with Congress, to set one of the two capital-reserve requirements for the companies. It would exercise authority over any new lines of business. And it would determine whether the two are adequately managing the risks of their ballooning portfolios...
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Gus Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:18:37am |
re: #1160 Gus 802
To counter the DNC sockpuppet:
New Agency Proposed to Oversee Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae
By STEPHEN LABATON
Published: Thursday, September 11, 2003
Further in the article:
Significant details must still be worked out before Congress can approve a bill. Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.
''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.'
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mrshankly01 Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:19:01am |
re: #1154 pink freud
i completely agree. they prey on victim hood. i don't believe it is here to stay, though. once the Democratic party has made the rich the fall guys for all life's problems, then there won't be any more rich and then no more money to pay the victims with.
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Kronocide Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:22:41am |
re: #1156 austin_blue
Fwank was a minority member on one committee and if you recall the President at the time was trumpeting the Ownership Society. Again, there are a lot of bad guys in this situation on both sides of the aisle.
So we've come full circle again with this equivocation. What started this tangent was me pointing out that your choice of Obama was because the R's failed on some issues or other, though the D's have a horrible record. As for this particular issue, you're saying they're both equally wrong as some kind of equivalency as an answer to my assertion that you picked the team that screwed up more.
That means 'hey, they both sucked, but might as well give the new guy a shot.' That's all it could mean. However, you said you voted for Obama since the R's screwed up.
Either way, voting out the R's because they didn't do a good job doesn't make sense if there's little or no chance the D's will do a better job.
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Noam Sayin' Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:25:34am |
Five gunshots - three, then two - about 2.5 blocks to my NE just now.
I've come to discern the difference between gunshots and fireworks.
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Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:25:48am |
re: #1159 Noam Sayin'
And my guess is, you got out right before that nose-dive.
What nose dive? Yesterday wasn't even a distribution day on ant index. If the Dow goes down 200+ points and there's no one there to bid, does it make a sound? Monday, Tuesday or the rest of next week will suss the market direction.
/yesterday was an austin_blue make believe market, all hype, zero volume
/I keep tight stops when necessary, just don't lose money
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pink freud Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:25:49am |
re: #1162 mrshankly01
i completely agree. they prey on victim hood. i don't believe it is here to stay, though. once the Democratic party has made the rich the fall guys for all life's problems, then there won't be any more rich and then no more money to pay the victims with.
They will have a revolt on their hands with a bunch of pissed off generational *victims*. These people have been promised the moon and it's simply not possible. It'll all come crashing down ...all of it.
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Noam Sayin' Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:26:21am |
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Syrah Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:27:49am |
re: #1167 pink freud
They will have a revolt on their hands with a bunch of pissed off generational *victims*. These people have been promised the moon and it's simply not possible. It'll all come crashing down ...all of it.
That is the scary version of the future. Its the one that I have been worrying about for some time now.
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David IV of Georgia Fri, Jul 3, 2009 4:49:13am |
two, too, to
To walk to the store, Sammy thought two miles was too far.
your, you're
You're certainly enamored with your grammar.
their, there, they're
They're over there playing with their toys.
who, whose, who's, whom
Who is that? The one I'm pointing at is the one of whom I'm speaking. Who's spoken to him? Whose bicycle is that—is it his?
It's not that hard. Teachers teach this stuff in elementary school. Or they used to back in the day.
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