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Shocka: Palin Resigns As Alaska Governor

Politics | Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 12:34:37 pm PDT

Initial reports were that Sarah Palin was planning not to run for re-election, but in a surprise move today she announced she’s resigning as Governor of Alaska.

ANCHORAGE, Alaska — Gov. Sarah Palin will resign her office in a few weeks, she said during a news conference at her Wasilla home Friday morning.

Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell will be inaugurated at the Governor’s Picnic at Pionner Park in Fairbanks on Saturday, July 25, Palin said.

There was no immediate word as to why she will resign, though speculation has been rampant that the former vice presidential candidate is gearing up for a run at the 2012 Republican presidential nomination.

Palin made the announcement flanked by Parnell and most, if not all, of her cabinet.

Hmm. This is a pretty standard way to downplay something and keep it out of the news cycle as much as possible — release it late Friday on a long weekend.

UPDATE at 7/3/09 2:21:58 pm:

MSNBC video of Palin’s announcement:

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1 McJenny50  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:35:31pm

Foz just said that she is turning over the reins to the Lt. Gov.

2 EmmmieG  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:35:52pm

I am confused, and hope there is nothing bad at the back of this.

3 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:36:08pm

next stop Argentina?

4 Charles  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:38:02pm

I'm wondering if there's more to this than the 2012 election.

5 jcm  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:38:03pm

Bit early to resign for '12.

6 Wendya  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:38:16pm

re: #2 EmmmieG

I am confused, and hope there is nothing bad at the back of this.

With the corruptocrats gunning for her and the prospect of endless and fruitless investigations, it may be a smart move. For whatever reason, the left is trying to destroy her so she can't position for a move in 2012. As well all know with the left, the truth is irrelevant as long as you can get politicians on record smearing their opponent.

7 yochanan  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:38:31pm

very odd indeed.

8 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:38:51pm

bad move...she has to explain this and soon

9 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:39:00pm

family issues, perhaps?

10 McJenny50  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:39:26pm

Lt. Gov taking over at the end of the month

11 pink freud  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:39:40pm

I predict no 2012 for her, either. Something big behind the scenes.

12 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:39:56pm

re: #5 jcm

Bit early to resign for '12.

Speculating here but it's also early for a senate run in '10. If either was the case I don't think she would resign.

13 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:39:57pm

maybe she's just declaring her personal independence?

14 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:39:59pm

This is bad for Palin. Quitting 18 months out, after we just savaged Sanford for leaving 4 days without his staff knowing where he was.... not good.

15 EmmmieG  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:40:12pm

I was always a Palin supporter. I never related to the high-status feminists of the East Coast. I didn't attend an Ivy league school; I had to work my way through with scholarships and jobs. I can shoot a gun; I'm very comfortable in the outdoors. I even have five kids.

I always felt that she was a target because she was such a success, but she didn't do what the feminists told us we had to do to succeed.

16 victor_yugo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:40:14pm

Maybe gearing up for the 2010 mid-term elections?

17 jones  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:40:41pm

re: #4 Charles

Yep, it makes no sense to not stick out the term at least.

18 Thanos  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:40:46pm

re: #4 Charles

I'm wondering if there's more to this than the 2012 election.

Me too, but on the other hand few who don't live there understand the extreme burden of getting to and from Alaska. If she's down here campaigning even a bit she can't do an effective job as Gov.

My last trip I spent 36 hours in the same clothes on the return leg due to one canceled flight out of Fbx.

19 BlueCanuck  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:41:08pm

Personally? I think she's sick of all the crap that's been thrown at her and her family. She's probably going to just take the time and be a mother to all her kids. At least I hope that's the thoughts behind this resignation.

20 Reluctant Democrat  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:41:24pm

Whoa! This does not look good.

I hope all is well with her and her family.

21 jcm  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:42:07pm

re: #12 Gus 802

Speculating here but it's also early for a senate run in '10. If either was the case I don't think she would resign.

Something's up....
Not '12.
Maybe Senate run for '10 but early for that.
She ran for veep while in office.

22 wahabicorridor  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:42:34pm

re: #4 Charles

I'm wondering if there's more to this than the 2012 election.

I think we all are.

23 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:42:39pm

she should run for the senate. i hope that's what she is up to.

24 Charles  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:42:58pm

Pretty standard way to downplay something -- release it late Friday on a long weekend.

25 iceweasel  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:43:01pm

re: #4 Charles

I'm wondering if there's more to this than the 2012 election.

So am I. It's worth noting that an AK blogger just raised enough money to get access to some documents (AK charges for documents that are available under the FOIA) that the blogger suspected showed some ethics violations. (By 'just' i mean, as in this week)

She's faced a lot of ethics complaints, none of which were proven. Another one looming on the horizon that she wants to circumvent?

/yes, I'm speculating, but it seems odd she wouldn't finish 2010 out.

26 broomer  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:43:27pm

re: #19 BlueCanuck

Personally? I think she's sick of all the crap that's been thrown at her and her family. She's probably going to just take the time and be a mother to all her kids. At least I hope that's the thoughts behind this resignation.

I upding you because I think that's exactly what happened.

This is exactly why we have idiots in public office. No one else wants to deal with this s#1t.

27 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:43:28pm

She has her reasons. And I'm sure the MSM will be camped in front of her house until they Get THE ANSWER while we're being fucked back in DC with barely a mention.

/Remember what Rahm says...

28 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:43:40pm

Sarah Crockett...."you can all go to hell, I'm going to Alaska!"

29 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:44:11pm

re: #21 jcm

Something's up....
Not '12.
Maybe Senate run for '10 but early for that.
She ran for veep while in office.

Will have to wait to hear her reasons. Transcripts, video, etc. Stepping down is not a good political move so she must have other reasons, IMO.

30 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:44:12pm

And the GOP implosion continues.

31 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:44:30pm

re: #23 nyc redneck

she should run for the senate. i hope that's what she is up to.

said that last year myself....if she has any designs on the POTUS that's the path to take

32 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:44:49pm

re: #24 Charles

Pretty standard way to downplay something -- release it late Friday on a long weekend.

true dat' but if she was running from something, she'd be gone asap, not hanging on for another 4 weeks.

33 capitalist piglet  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:45:02pm

re: #8 albusteve

bad move...she has to explain this and soon

What if it's because she's trying to protect her family from the relentless onslaught of attacks by liberals?

I wouldn't blame her.

And isn't this just like the media? Spend months choking someone, then gleefully announce they're dead, like they had nothing to do with it.

34 victor_yugo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:45:17pm

re: #27 SasquatchOnSteroids

She has her reasons. And I'm sure the MSM will be camped in front of her house until they Get THE ANSWER THEY WANT while we're being fucked back in DC with barely a mention.

/Remember what Rahm says...

Fixed. Remember, the truth doesn't mean shit to the MSM.

35 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:45:22pm

Dam they release this in the middle of a Yankee game

36 hazzyday  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:45:48pm

I'm not worried. I'll support her if she runs for President.

If a republican politician feels the needs to be unfaithful and have affairs while in office they should just become a democrat. If a republican is a pedophile. Just become a democrat. More tolerance there for that sort of thing. I'm ok with keeping the alcoholics, but the Dems have a lock on that also.

37 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:45:52pm

GOP = making Democrats look reasonable for over two years now.

38 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:46:00pm
39 brookly red  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:46:09pm

re: #30 Racer X

And the GOP implosion continues.

Hmmmm, 3rd party bid?

40 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:46:14pm

re: #33 capitalist piglet

What if it's because she's trying to protect her family from the relentless onslaught of attacks by liberals?

I wouldn't blame her.

And isn't this just like the media? Spend months choking someone, then gleefully announce they're dead, like they had nothing to do with it.

bad move politically I should have said

41 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:46:28pm

re: #37 Racer X

GOP = making Democrats look reasonable for over two years now.

I don't buy that

42 callahan23  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:46:47pm

I don't know the reasons for the resignation be they private or because she will run for 2012.
I wish for her and her family all the best.

43 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:46:53pm

re: #24 Charles

Pretty standard way to downplay something -- release it late Friday on a long weekend.

It's the Friday Night News Dump... dump news on a Friday, and hope it escapes the news cycle. SOP for politicians and media saavy types hoping to avoid scrutiny. Doesn't always seem to work out as planned though..

44 EmmmieG  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:46:59pm

I'll bet she actually is going to take a little time and go hiking.

(This is when you hike in Alaska. Summer.)*

*The four seasons of Alaska are: Almost winter, Winter, Still Winter, and Construction.

45 pink freud  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:47:06pm

re: #41 Nevergiveup

I don't buy that

Ditto.

46 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:47:19pm

re: #34 victor_yugo

Fixed. Remember, the truth doesn't mean shit to the MSM.

have your scenarios on my desk by 3pm....we'll get this sorted out!

47 Kulhwch  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:47:38pm

I hope it's the run for 2012.  I'd hate to think it was something bad.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Meanwhile, a little OT: today's slam at Barry:

"This is how I feel -- if you want to see the Pittsburgh Steelers, invite us when we don't win the Super Bowl. As far as I'm concerned, he would've invited Arizona if they had won."

James Harrison of the Pittsburgh Steelers, on his decision to skip a White House visit with his team.

}:)     [Now who'd've ever thought that he'd stand up to Barry?]

48 EmmmieG  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:48:41pm

Personal opinion--if the MSM put as much energy into finding the dirt on the D's as they do the R's, we could dedicate one whole channel to congressional scandals.

49 Wendya  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:49:35pm

re: #25 iceweasel

So am I. It's worth noting that an AK blogger just raised enough money to get access to some documents (AK charges for documents that are available under the FOIA) that the blogger suspected showed some ethics violations. (By 'just' i mean, as in this week)

She's faced a lot of ethics complaints, none of which were proven. Another one looming on the horizon that she wants to circumvent?

/yes, I'm speculating, but it seems odd she wouldn't finish 2010 out.

Would that be this scumbag, who started the whole photoshop Trig phenomenon?

[Link: www.divasblueoasis.com...]

50 wahabicorridor  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:49:40pm

re: #24 Charles

Pretty standard way to downplay something -- release it late Friday on a long weekend.

Except for the fact that she's a sitting governor and Sarah Palin, to boot. No way this one wasn't going into overdrive.

At least it won't be all Michael Jackson all the time now.

/small blessings

51 NoWhereAlaska  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:49:43pm

Not running for reelection would have been a good move if she planned on running for the White House. But resigning is not a good move. I believe her future in national politics is all but dead!

52 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:50:01pm

when does moose season open?...anybody?

53 yochanan  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:50:09pm

well if berry screws up amerikkka and turns it into the U.S.S.A. then maybe the ALASKA INDEPENDENCE PARTY will look good after all.

///// need I? more than a little sarcasm

54 NoWhereAlaska  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:50:34pm

re: #52 albusteve

Depends usual September 15th.

55 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:51:03pm

What could be bad news for Palin? After all she has already been called:

1) cruel to Animals
2) claiming her daughters baby is hers
3) being stupid
4) being selfish
5) having affairs
6) being a bad mother
7) Getting her son in the Army because he was about to charge with selling drugs
8) What have I missed?

G-D bless her and I wish her well in the future, what ever that may be.

56 SasquatchOnSteroids  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:51:12pm

re: #47 Kulhwch

I hope it's the run for 2012.  I'd hate to think it was something bad.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Meanwhile, a little OT: today's slam at Barry:

}:)     [Now who'd've ever thought that he'd stand up to Barry?]

As far as I'm concerned, he would've invited Arizona if they had won."

Well, No Shit Sherlock. What a dunce.

57 brookly red  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:51:21pm

re: #51 NoWhereAlaska

Not running for reelection would have been a good move if she planned on running for the White House. But resigning is not a good move. I believe her future in national politics is all but dead!

Didn't Romney quit 2 years out?

58 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:51:34pm

re: #41 Nevergiveup

I don't buy that

Sorry. I'm just really disenchanted with the GOP lately.
McCain? Yawn.
Huckabee? Yikes
Sanford? Yippee!
Palin? - ?

59 DEZes  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:51:44pm

Good luck Sarah.

60 pink freud  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:51:48pm

re: #55 Nevergiveup

Health issues.

61 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:52:29pm

re: #51 NoWhereAlaska

Not running for reelection would have been a good move if she planned on running for the White House. But resigning is not a good move. I believe her future in national politics is all but dead!

I believe she does not give a shit....national politics is a black hole that makes vampires out of reasonable people...

62 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:52:55pm

re: #58 Racer X

Sorry. I'm just really disenchanted with the GOP lately.
McCain? Yawn.
Huckabee? Yikes
Sanford? Yippee!
Palin? - ?

And your just thrilled with Obama, Kennedy, Pelosi, Frank, Franken, and The putz from nevada?

63 Bagua  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:52:59pm

One wonders why any normal, sensible person would wish to remain in politics.

Palin has appears to be a sensible person.

Like many she enjoyed it when when she was effective and treated in a civil manner, what normal person could tolerate the abuse she and her family have been subject to since her nomination?

64 sagehen  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:53:48pm

re: #63 Bagua


Like many she enjoyed it when when she was effective and treated in a civil manner, what normal person could tolerate the abuse she and her family have been subject to since her nomination?

So you're saying she's not tough enough for the big leagues?

65 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:54:09pm

re: #2 EmmmieG

I am confused, and hope there is nothing bad at the back of this.

this is odd, and very very confusing.

66 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:54:27pm

re: #58 Racer X

Sorry. I'm just really disenchanted with the GOP lately.
McCain? Yawn.
Huckabee? Yikes
Sanford? Yippee!
Palin? - ?

Obama - yikes
Biden - yikes
Reid - yikes
Pelosi - yikes
Boxer - yikes
Franken - yikes
Durbin - yikes
Corzine - yikes
Franks - yikes
Dodd - yikes

//Just sayin'.

67 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:55:21pm

re: #55 Nevergiveup

What could be bad news for Palin? After all she has already been called:

1) cruel to Animals
2) claiming her daughters baby is hers
3) being stupid
4) being selfish
5) having affairs
6) being a bad mother
7) Getting her son in the Army because he was about to charge with selling drugs
8) What have I missed?

G-D bless her and I wish her well in the future, what ever that may be.

Crazy from post-partum depression.

68 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:55:23pm

re: #64 sagehen

So you're saying she's not tough enough for the big leagues?

stupid question

69 vxbush  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:55:28pm

It may be that she has decided that taking care of Trigg and giving him the help he needs takes priority over being a governor. But if that's the case, why wouldn't she say so?

70 victor_yugo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:55:46pm

re: #46 albusteve

have your scenarios on my desk by 3pm....we'll get this sorted out!

Well, it's almost 4:00pm here, so you're a little late, but here goes:

someone's ill
she's ill (possibly peri-menopausal)
she's gearing up for 2010 congressional elections
she's going to work full-time for the RNC
someone has threatened her
having two small children in the household is too much for a gov
Todd told her to leave the office or he'd leave her

All wild speculation, of course.

71 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:55:48pm

re: #62 Nevergiveup

And your just thrilled with Obama, Kennedy, Pelosi, Frank, Franken, and The putz from nevada?

Heh.

No, but it is like picking between a slow death from poison or being hanged.

Conservatives need a good strong leader.

*looks around*

*still looking*

72 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:55:53pm

re: #48 EmmmieG

Personal opinion--if the MSM put as much energy into finding the dirt on the D's as they do the R's, we could dedicate one whole channel to congressional scandals.

Yes, we could.

73 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:56:01pm

re: #65 reine.de.tout

this is odd, and very very confusing.

Maybe just maybe she is being honest and wants to run for national office and can't devote the time to Alaska that is required. There are some honest people. Personally I don't think she will get the Nomination, but I still like her, and think she has been treated more unfairly than any candidate I ever saw.

74 DEZes  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:56:01pm

re: #63 Bagua

One wonders why any normal, sensible person would wish to remain in politics.

Palin has appears to be a sensible person.

Like many she enjoyed it when when she was effective and treated in a civil manner, what normal person could tolerate the abuse she and her family have been subject to since her nomination?

You have to have a thick skin in politics, If she is resigning because she cant take the insults and media madness, then she is not needed in higher office.

75 callahan23  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:56:11pm

re: #63 Bagua

One wonders why any normal, sensible person would wish to remain in politics.

Palin has appears to be a sensible person.

Like many she enjoyed it when when she was effective and treated in a civil manner, what normal person could tolerate the abuse she and her family have been subject to since her nomination?

I for one couldn't.
I admire her greatly. And take note I don't agree with on some issues.

76 kingkenrod  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:56:14pm

Maybe a primary challenge from the right to Murkowski in 2010?

She would have to have a campaign apparatus set up by the end of this year. Maybe Alaska law forbids the Governor from campaigning for another office. Maybe she has to officially resign before announcing her candidacy.

77 jones  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:56:23pm

re: #65 reine.de.tout

Going to be interesting couple of days etc.

I onder if she just needs to make some $$$ and now is the time. 10 years out she can reappear, maybe.

78 iceweasel  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:56:28pm

This is purest speculation, but an AK blogger has been about to file for some documents--

I'm not linking to the AK blogger in question-- she has a lot of photoshopped images on her site-- but here's an excerpt from someone else:

A few months back, [xxxx] sent an Open Records request to the state, asking for copies of some emails.

Specifically, emails between officials of the Palin administration and (Sarah Palin devotee and right-wing wack job radio personality) Eddie Burke , and (the ADN's Alaska Ear) Sheila Toomey .

Also specifically, any emails in which Andrée McLeod, independent government watchdog, was the subject.

The pricetag for these emails was about 5500; some small blogs had been running fundraisers. They just raised the money; on July 1st the blogger was in contact with Palin's office to see who the check is made out to.

Coincidence? Probably.

(BTW, I can't vouchsafe for the credibility of the AK blogger with the query or the legitimacy of the complaint; I don't read that blog and I don't know what's going on in AK politics-- this is just something I picked up)

79 Bagua  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:56:40pm

re: #64 sagehen

No, I'm saying we don't see normal, well adjusted people playing in those "big leagues," as a class politicians are abnormal.

80 lobo91  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:56:54pm

re: #23 nyc redneck

she should run for the senate. i hope that's what she is up to.

Well, Lisa Murkowski's term ends in 2010, so that would be a possibility...

81 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:57:13pm

re: #69 vxbush

It may be that she has decided that taking care of Trigg and giving him the help he needs takes priority over being a governor. But if that's the case, why wouldn't she say so?

Maybe we should give her a few days. maybe she will explain her decision.

82 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:57:33pm

I really doubt this is about a presidential run. It doesn't make any sense to quit this early. One of her biggest draw backs is her lack of experience, she's only served 2-3 years and then quit! That's not experience. I suspect there might be a big scandal getting ready to break and she's preemptively stepping down. Is this is about a presidential run it's a very very stupid move.

83 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:57:42pm

re: #70 victor_yugo

Well, it's almost 4:00pm here, so you're a little late, but here goes:

someone's ill
she's ill (possibly peri-menopausal)
she's gearing up for 2010 congressional elections
she's going to work full-time for the RNC
someone has threatened her
having two small children in the household is too much for a gov
Todd told her to leave the office or he'd leave her

All wild speculation, of course.

very interesting right there...politics can ruin people and maybe he's drawing the line

84 bulwrk  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:57:49pm

As much as I want to believe otherwise there is something amiss here.If IRC she is in the middle of negotiating a huge oil and natural gas pipeline contract for the State of Alaska and walking off a job is no way to start a presidential run.

85 Lincolntf  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:58:00pm

This is really interesting. I'm not gonna guess at her motives, but if she thought that by doing it in the traditional "news dump" slot, she'd avoid attention she was way off.
This will be picnic table conversation for countless millions of Americans all weekend long.

86 jones  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:58:01pm

ANy scoop on Parneel from Alaskans?

87 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:58:07pm

re: #73 Nevergiveup

Maybe just maybe she is being honest and wants to run for national office and can't devote the time to Alaska that is required. There are some honest people. Personally I don't think she will get the Nomination, but I still like her, and think she has been treated more unfairly than any candidate I ever saw.

I like her too, though I think she does not quite have what's needed (at least yet) for a national office.

and there is no doubt in my mind that she has been treated more unfairly, by the folks who were supposed to be "her" people in the McCain campaign, by the McCain's and by the left, than any candidate in my recent memory.

88 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:58:14pm

re: #81 Nevergiveup

Maybe we should give her a few days. maybe she will explain her decision.

We want answers Now Dammit! NOW!

/

89 iceweasel  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:58:35pm

re: #49 Wendya

Would that be this scumbag, who started the whole photoshop Trig phenomenon?

[Link: .]

The photoshop Trig phenom was already going on, unfortunately. I didn't post her link because I don't think she should get traffic.

It's probably a total coincidence in any case.

90 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:59:06pm

re: #86 jones

ANy scoop on Parneel from Alaskans?

Was looking in Wiki:

Sean Parnell

and:

[Link: ltgov.state.ak.us...]

91 wahabicorridor  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:59:15pm

re: #79 Bagua

No, I'm saying we don't see normal, well adjusted people playing in those "big leagues," as a class politicians are abnormal.

Mark Steyn recently wrote something like politics is an affirmative action program for sociopaths.

92 J.S.  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:59:15pm

re: #67 MandyManners

Wasn't she also accused of being a Prima Donna or a Diva (with regard to her dresses, glasses, etc.)?

93 pink freud  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:59:17pm

re: #84 bulwrk

She is getting out ahead of something.

94 spacejesus  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:59:24pm

lol GOP Palin + Joe the Plumber 2012

95 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:59:27pm

re: #82 Killgore Trout

I really doubt this is about a presidential run. It doesn't make any sense to quit this early. One of her biggest draw backs is her lack of experience, she's only served 2-3 years and then quit! That's not experience. I suspect there might be a big scandal getting ready to break and she's preemptively stepping down. Is this is about a presidential run it's a very very stupid move.

I hate agreeing with you but I do (kidding!).

This is not good.

96 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:59:31pm

re: #71 Racer X

Heh.

No, but it is like picking between a slow death from poison or being hanged.

Conservatives need a good strong leader.

*looks around*

*still looking*

Well me i hate the bunch of leaders the GOP are putting up at the moment. I like Palin but don't think she will be elected. But I don't jumped from a sinking ship, but stay and try to right her. And I do mean "right" her. I am loyal and I have my principals.

97 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:59:32pm

re: #35 Nevergiveup

Dam they release this in the middle of a Yankee game

what will happen first:

A. Palin sworn in as POTUS or
B. The Yankees winning the World Series

I vote for B

98 callahan23  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:59:35pm

re: #75 callahan23
PIMF, sorry folks should have been:

I for one couldn't.
I admire her greatly. And take note I don't agree with her on some issues.
99 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 12:59:37pm

re: #82 Killgore Trout

you forgot to mention that you don't like her, which colors your thinking.

100 victor_yugo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:00:07pm

re: #92 J.S.

Wasn't she also accused of being a Prima Donna or a Diva (with regard to her dresses, glasses, etc.)?

That withered as soon as someone pointed out how much the WAB was spending on her wardrobe.

101 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:00:11pm

re: #82 Killgore Trout

I really doubt this is about a presidential run. It doesn't make any sense to quit this early. One of her biggest draw backs is her lack of experience, she's only served 2-3 years and then quit! That's not experience. I suspect there might be a big scandal getting ready to break and she's preemptively stepping down. Is this is about a presidential run it's a very very stupid move.

And how long was what's his name a Senator and what did what's his naem accomplish?

102 iceweasel  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:00:12pm

re: #82 Killgore Trout

I really doubt this is about a presidential run. It doesn't make any sense to quit this early. One of her biggest draw backs is her lack of experience, she's only served 2-3 years and then quit! That's not experience. I suspect there might be a big scandal getting ready to break and she's preemptively stepping down. Is this is about a presidential run it's a very very stupid move.

Killgore-- yes, I suspect you're right. I can't think of a good reason-- barring some family catastrophe or personal tragedy, which I hope is not the case-- for her to be leaving now.

103 jones  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:00:21pm

re: #90 Gus 802

Thanks, but any bar talk etc. on him?

104 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:00:55pm

re: #92 J.S.

Wasn't she also accused of being a Prima Donna or a Diva (with regard to her dresses, glasses, etc.)?

was there anything negative she wasn't accused of?

105 midwestgak  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:01:05pm

Wait. How dare she interrupt the 24/7 MJ news coverage.////

106 DEZes  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:01:12pm

Wheres the Luap Nor connection?

107 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:01:19pm

re: #103 jones

Thanks, but any bar talk etc. on him?

First time I ever heard of him is about two minutes ago.

108 EmmmieG  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:01:20pm

re: #104 redc1c4

was there anything negative she wasn't accused of?

Eating puppies and kittens raw?

109 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:01:36pm

GOP = please throw me a Scooby Snack or something. It cannot continue to go downhill. Can it?

110 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:01:56pm

re: #108 EmmmieG

Eating puppies and kittens raw?

Not sure about that. I seem to remember.....

111 victor_yugo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:01:59pm

re: #106 DEZes

Wheres the Luap Nor connection?

They both get talked about on LGF.

RACISTS!

///////////////

112 kingkenrod  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:02:06pm

How does resigning before a scandal breaks make any sense?

113 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:02:08pm

re: #101 Nevergiveup

And how long was what's his name a Senator and what did what's his naem accomplish?

that's completely different.....

/

114 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:02:17pm
115 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:02:25pm

she has major star power. no matter how the msm tries to destroy her, her appeal has only grown. she could go on to do many things. and be very successful. i hope she stays in politics. if a commie like o can get elected totus, she could get elected potus.

116 victor_yugo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:02:30pm

re: #108 EmmmieG

Eating puppies and kittens raw?

Puppies and kittens are too small for a meal. That's why she prefers moose.

117 DEZes  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:02:30pm

re: #108 EmmmieG

Eating puppies and kittens raw?

Thats about the only thing I never saw her accused of. ;)

118 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:03:00pm

Seems the liberals here are rooting for some scandal? Gee it's almost like they are hoping the GOP implodes?

119 jaunte  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:03:04pm

re: #101 Nevergiveup

And how long was what's his name a Senator and what did what's his naem accomplish?

1. About a year. 2. Change.™

120 bulwrk  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:03:06pm

re: #104 redc1c4

was there anything negative she wasn't accused of?

Going to Argentina.

121 lobo91  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:03:14pm

re: #101 Nevergiveup

And how long was what's his name a Senator and what did what's his naem accomplish?

Obama at least pretended to be a Senator for a couple of years before announcing his candidacy for president.

If Palin were elected to the Senate in 2010, she'd basically have to already be raising money for a presidential campaign before she took office.

122 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:03:16pm

re: #92 J.S.

Wasn't she also accused of being a Prima Donna or a Diva (with regard to her dresses, glasses, etc.)?

Wasn't that done by McCain staffers?

123 Wendya  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:03:25pm

re: #70 victor_yugo


she's ill (possibly peri-menopausal)


That's not being "ill".

124 SixDegrees  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:03:28pm

re: #4 Charles

I'm wondering if there's more to this than the 2012 election.

Yeah, this sounds bad for Palin. A resignation doesn't fit at all with preparation for a Presidential run. It's much more in keeping with someone bailing before some horrendously bad news hits the fan.

Just have to wait and see what develops, I guess.

125 Honcho  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:03:30pm

Has she been offered a cabinet seat in the Clinton administration, which will follow enactment of the Clinton Plan (double-murder suicide in B&D menage a trois by top dem figure), or will she be heading Ron Paul's amazon bodyguard following the black-helicopter illluminati coup?

126 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:03:50pm

re: #112 kingkenrod

How does resigning before a scandal breaks make any sense?

Well, she can literally tell the media to go fook themselves and then slam the door shut.

127 victor_yugo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:03:52pm

re: #115 nyc redneck

she has major star power. no matter how the msm tries to destroy her, her appeal has only grown. she could go on to do many things. and be very successful. i hope she stays in politics. if a commie like o can get elected totus, she could get elected potus.

You are missing something: The Zero got elected because of his commie alignment.

128 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:03:53pm

re: #66 Gus 802

Obama - yikes
Biden - yikes
Reid - yikes
Pelosi - yikes
Boxer - yikes
Franken - yikes
Durbin - yikes
Corzine - yikes
Franks - yikes
Dodd - yikes

//Just sayin'.


You forgot:

Paterson: What the frak!
Schwarzenegger: I'll be... oh who the heck am I kidding!
Rangel: Show me the money!
Jefferson: That's my line Rangel!
Cunningham: I got shot down in flames over money!
Madoff: Greed is good, except when you get caught.
Geithner: Can someone get me a TARP; the economy is DOA.
Spitzer: It's a circus, how much do I have to pay?
Monserrate and Espada: Did someone say circus?

129 jcm  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:03:56pm

re: #120 bulwrk

Going to Argentina.

Naked hiking.....

130 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:04:07pm

re: #112 kingkenrod

How does resigning before a scandal breaks make any sense?

and, if it is a scandal, why hang on to the end of the month?

it's more likely something else, but that'll never stop the Palin haters, here and elsewhere.

131 NoWhereAlaska  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:04:14pm

re: #86 jones

ANy scoop on Parneel from Alaskans?

What do you want to know. He is a young, nice, easy going politician. He is not up for 'hard-hitting' campaigns. He lost to Don Young last year for congress. He will be a great governor for our state, but he has no future in national politics.

132 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:04:29pm

re: #121 lobo91

Obama at least pretended to be a Senator for a couple of years before announcing his candidacy for president.

If Palin were elected to the Senate in 2010, she'd basically have to already be raising money for a presidential campaign before she took office.

He was about as much of a Senator as i was

133 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:04:36pm

re: #115 nyc redneck

she has major star power. no matter how the msm tries to destroy her, her appeal has only grown. she could go on to do many things. and be very successful. i hope she stays in politics. if a commie like o can get elected totus, she could get elected potus.

leftists totally disregard that obvious little factoid...hahaha!....good grief...thier smug predictions of her demise are ridiculous, if they could only hear themselves

134 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:04:41pm

Does this sound like the launch of a presidential campaign?
STUNNER: A Palin announcement: Resigning in weeks; “It hurts to make this choice. But I’m doing what’s best for Alaska”

Palin: “I love my job. I love Alaska. It hurts to make this choice. But I’m doing what’s best for Alaska.” Tears in her eyes.

Says she will be able “to effect change from the outside.” America needs protectors of individual rights now more than ever. Promises to always be there for Alaska. Wants to work not just for Alaska, for the rest of the country.

Lt Gov. Sean Parnell says he receives announcement with a “heavy heart.”

135 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:04:49pm

re: #125 Honcho

Has she been offered a cabinet seat in the Clinton administration, which will follow enactment of the Clinton Plan (double-murder suicide in B&D menage a trois by top dem figure), or will she be heading Ron Paul's amazon bodyguard following the black-helicopter illluminati coup?

Whiplash!

136 jcm  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:04:53pm

re: #128 lawhawk

You forgot:

Paterson: What the frak!
Schwarzenegger: I'll be... oh who the heck am I kidding!
Rangel: Show me the money!
Jefferson: That's my line Rangel!
Cunningham: I got shot down in flames over money!
Madoff: Greed is good, except when you get caught.
Geithner: Can someone get me a TARP; the economy is DOA.
Spitzer: It's a circus, how much do I have to pay?
Monserrate and Espada: Did someone say circus?


Obama: "Fundamentally Change America?"

137 SixDegrees  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:04:57pm

re: #112 kingkenrod

How does resigning before a scandal breaks make any sense?

You move yourself at least slightly out of the bullseye.

But it's too soon to speculate on precisely what the cause of this may be. Could just as well be a family issue of some sort.

138 wahabicorridor  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:04:58pm

Someone on Fox is speculating based on conversation with Palin that she was spending so much time defending herself against frivolous ethics complaints )and thousand of $) that she couldn't effectively govern.

139 jaunte  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:05:01pm

re: #118 Nevergiveup

Seems the liberals here are rooting for some scandal? Gee it's almost like they are hoping the GOP implodes?

One of the only sins left is the hypocrisy of others.

140 gatorbait  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:05:09pm

She is one hell of a classy dame and I wish her all the best life has to offer. Should she choose to stay in politics, she will always have my support. She is the best kind of person: honest, sincere, principled, and courageous.

141 ~Fianna  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:05:15pm

re: #4 Charles

I'm wondering if there's more to this than the 2012 election.

Yeah... I see three possibilities:

1. She's so fed up with the whole thing at this point that she wants out of politics.
2. She's gotten an offer from FOX or a PAC that pays well and gives her a platform.
3. There's a really big shoe about to drop and she's trying to stem some bleeding.

I think that Todd and Todd's insane family is a liability for her.

142 J.S.  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:05:17pm

re: #112 kingkenrod

You avoid the embarrassment of being "forced out of office"...It's like a pre-emptive move...if the person's already out of office, you can't demand he/she be punished with being pushed/forced out of office.

143 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:05:19pm

re: #118 Nevergiveup

Seems the liberals here are rooting for some scandal? Gee it's almost like they are hoping the GOP implodes?

don't worry. it won't.
we are going to be helped so much in 2010 by the grifter himself.
buyers remorse is growing.

144 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:05:22pm

re: #120 bulwrk

Going to Argentina.

see my #3 on this thread..... %-)

145 victor_yugo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:05:26pm

re: #123 Wendya

That's not being "ill".

For some women (esp. who can't take hormones), it is.

146 jones  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:05:35pm

re: #131 NoWhereAlaska

What do you want to know. He is a young, nice, easy going politician. He is not up for 'hard-hitting' campaigns. He lost to Don Young last year for congress. He will be a great governor for our state, but he has no future in national politics.

That was what I really wondered.


Thanks.

147 Deseeded  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:05:59pm

As much as I am not a huge fan of Sarah Palin, I certainly admire her decision to resign her position to a person who will be able to focus 100% on the State issues. Coming from Massachusetts, I saw what happens when a governor neglects his state in favor or running all over the country for a bid at the Presidency. I really liked Romney until he did that to us. He pretty much sealed a Democrat win for the Governorship.

I'm hoping there isn't more to this than just being responsible.

148 EmmmieG  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:06:25pm

Maybe she's tired of having her minor children viciously attacked and slandered?

149 Wendya  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:06:29pm

re: #134 Killgore Trout

Does this sound like the launch of a presidential campaign?
STUNNER: A Palin announcement: Resigning in weeks; “It hurts to make this choice. But I’m doing what’s best for Alaska”

Is it good for Alaska to be constantly mired in nuisance "ethics complaints" initiated by political enemies and bloggers? They've already cost the state over 300K with nothing to show for it but the enrichment of lawyers.

150 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:06:37pm

re: #134 Killgore Trout

No. It sounds like there's something more serious than a 2012 run. We can only speculate in the absence of solid news. Could be medical issues. Could be family issues. There hasn't exactly been a sign of a scandal, so that's not likely it, unless they're trying to get out in front, which isn't the usual way of handling a scandal (aka infidelity or corruption or the like).

151 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:06:39pm

re: #128 lawhawk

You forgot:

Paterson: What the frak!
Schwarzenegger: I'll be... oh who the heck am I kidding!
Rangel: Show me the money!
Jefferson: That's my line Rangel!
Cunningham: I got shot down in flames over money!
Madoff: Greed is good, except when you get caught.
Geithner: Can someone get me a TARP; the economy is DOA.
Spitzer: It's a circus, how much do I have to pay?
Monserrate and Espada: Did someone say circus?

The list is endless. Remember all of the NJ Democrats that were both indicted and jailed a couple of years ago?

Then we have the recent Democrat Party governors of infamy:

Eliot Spitzer (D-NY)
Rod Blagojevich (D-IL)
Jim McGreevey (D-NJ)

152 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:06:50pm

What if she plans some major announcement that she plans to take the dems on, head-on, nationally. Something she cannot do full-time as governor of AK. What I mean is, she can fill the void, make the noise the republicans are failing to make attacking Cap-n-Trade, Ø-Care, National Security issues, etc. Cheney was getting a bunch press making the needed noise, yet he has no further aspirations.

153 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:06:56pm

re: #127 victor_yugo

You are missing something: The Zero got elected because of his commie alignment.

no, he fooled a lot of people into thinking he was a centrist, tho he did occasionally reveal himself if people were listening.

154 Wendya  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:07:36pm

re: #145 victor_yugo

For some women (esp. who can't take hormones), it is.

No, it's not. It's a normal part of being a woman. You deal with it.

155 lobo91  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:07:45pm

re: #132 Nevergiveup

He was about as much of a Senator as i was

Notice I said "pretended."

My point was that he at least held the office for four years before becoming president. Palin would only be there for 2, all of which would be spent campaigning.

Doesn't make sense.

156 DEZes  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:07:48pm

re: #142 J.S.

You avoid the embarrassment of being "forced out of office"...It's like a pre-emptive move...if the person's already out of office, you can't demand he/she be punished with being pushed/forced out of office.

That makes sense, its also better than fighting tooth and nail to retain a position.

157 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:07:50pm

re: #143 nyc redneck

don't worry. it won't.
we are going to be helped so much in 2010 by the grifter himself.
buyers remorse is growing.

I'm not worried. Was just making an observation about the lefties that hang out here.

158 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08:14pm

re: #102 iceweasel

Yes, It's also possible that There's been some sort of family tragedy of serious illness.

159 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08:27pm

re: #141 ~Fianna

Yeah... I see three possibilities:

1. She's so fed up with the whole thing at this point that she wants out of politics.
2. She's gotten an offer from FOX or a PAC that pays well and gives her a platform.
3. There's a really big shoe about to drop and she's trying to stem some bleeding.

I think that Todd and Todd's insane family is a liability for her.

I missed that one. What's it about?

160 Grand Poobah  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08:35pm

re: #24 Charles

Pretty standard way to downplay something -- release it late Friday on a long weekend.

You think they did this on purpose?

161 Lincolntf  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08:51pm

re: #134 Killgore Trout

Her brother said that he thought that she felt that since she and her staff had to spend up to 80% of their time dealing with frivolous ethics complaints and lawsuits filed by every moonbat within a thousand mile radius, the State and it's citizens would be better served if she stepped down.

We shall see. I'm reserving judgment on this one because I'm sure we've only heard about 1% of the story.

162 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08:54pm

re: #148 EmmmieG

Maybe she's tired of having her minor children viciously attacked and slandered?

Good point. Not sure I would have been able to hold back from beating Letterman and a few others senseless for attacking my kids.

163 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:09:10pm

re: #156 DEZes

By the same token, you can't use the resignation as a bargaining chip to avoid prosecution/reduced sentencing, etc. It's a curious move, especially compared to Blago, Spitzer, Paterson, McGreevey, et. al.

164 kingkenrod  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:09:16pm

Another thing to consider is the number of bogus ethics complaints against her were costing her big money - $500,000. It's possible her attempts to raise donations to pay her legal bills weren't working out. Why stay on as Governor for 1 1/2 years only to go deeply into debt, yet not do much to help her prospects as Governor?

165 lobo91  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:09:21pm

re: #138 wahabicorridor

Someone on Fox is speculating based on conversation with Palin that she was spending so much time defending herself against frivolous ethics complaints )and thousand of $) that she couldn't effectively govern.

Could also be that she can't afford the job. She's probably spending more on legal fees than she makes as governor, and she's not independently wealthy like most Democrat politicians.

166 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:09:22pm

re: #145 victor_yugo

For some women (esp. who can't take hormones), it is.

No, it's not. It's a natural process.

167 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:09:56pm

re: #132 Nevergiveup

He was about as much of a Senator as i was

no, less of a senator than you.

168 kingkenrod  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:10:10pm

re: #164 kingkenrod

Another thing to consider is the number of bogus ethics complaints against her were costing her big money - $500,000. It's possible her attempts to raise donations to pay her legal bills weren't working out. Why stay on as Governor for 1 1/2 years only to go deeply into debt, yet not do much to help her prospects as Governor?

I mean as President.

169 Adrenalyn  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:10:14pm

I sure hope she resigned because she found 0bama's Kenyan birth certificate and is planning on a big fight to take the White House with John McCain

otherwise, she is in some ethical trouble and is quitting so she can flee to Saudi Arabia

170 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:10:21pm

re: #155 lobo91

Notice I said "pretended."

My point was that he at least held the office for four years before becoming president. Palin would only be there for 2, all of which would be spent campaigning.

Doesn't make sense.

Look I like her, but doubt she will get the nomination. So in the end I don't think this all matters much. It's still real early in the election cycle.

171 NoWhereAlaska  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:10:25pm

I talked with a friend in Juneau. He will be getting the inside story next week. I will let you know what I find out. Sorry though it will take a few days. Stay tuned folks.

172 iceweasel  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:11:09pm

re: #118 Nevergiveup

Seems the liberals here are rooting for some scandal? Gee it's almost like they are hoping the GOP implodes?

Not at all. Many here who are far from liberal would say that the GOP has been imploding.

And I notice a few who are not liberals also think something strange might be up. It's not just liberals who are finding this strange.

173 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:11:30pm

re: #171 NoWhereAlaska

I talked with a friend in Juneau. He will be getting the inside story next week. I will let you know what I find out. Sorry though it will take a few days. Stay tuned folks.

Next week?

It will be all over the interwebs in another hour.

174 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:11:33pm

re: #167 nyc redneck

no, less of a senator than you.

Thank you

175 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:11:35pm

re: #160 Grand Poobah

You think they did this on purpose?

Why not? It's a smart move.

176 wahabicorridor  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:11:39pm

re: #165 lobo91

Could also be that she can't afford the job. She's probably spending more on legal fees than she makes as governor, and she's not independently wealthy like most Democrat politicians.

Wouldn't those legal fees have been picked up by the state?

177 Honcho  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:11:48pm

Is there some MP in Iraq with a big smile on his face?

178 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:11:59pm

re: #162 Racer X

Good point. Not sure I would have been able to hold back from beating Letterman and a few others senseless for attacking my kids.

i'm not sure i would have even tried.....

(to hold back, that is. %-)

179 DEZes  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:12:28pm

re: #163 lawhawk

By the same token, you can't use the resignation as a bargaining chip to avoid prosecution/reduced sentencing, etc. It's a curious move, especially compared to Blago, Spitzer, Paterson, McGreevey, et. al.

Didnt think about using it as a bargaining chip.
Most of the scandalized politicians refuse to leave an elected position.
Its theirs, and they wants it.

180 cronus  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:12:36pm

Hmmm.. If there really is nothing more scandalous to this I would guess there is a (really bad) political calculation that she can spend 6 to 12 months making money and then run for Prez full time. Or it is that she in fact doesn't want to run for prez, is burned out as governor and wants to make money and be done.

Regardless actually quitting in your first term can only reflect negatively if she plans to do anything in politics again.

181 wahabicorridor  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:13:00pm

gotta hop, lizards..........

big smooch for one and all.........

182 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:13:03pm

re: #161 Lincolntf

Her brother said that he thought that she felt that since she and her staff had to spend up to 80% of their time dealing with frivolous ethics complaints and lawsuits filed by every moonbat within a thousand mile radius, the State and it's citizens would be better served if she stepped down.


That's possible but I think unlikely. There are always partisan complainers and every politician has to deal with it.

183 sagehen  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:13:09pm

re: #108 EmmmieG

Eating puppies and kittens raw?

Slander! The puppies are barbecued, with her own special sauce. The kittens are in chili.

184 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:13:26pm

re: #163 lawhawk

By the same token, you can't use the resignation as a bargaining chip to avoid prosecution/reduced sentencing, etc. It's a curious move, especially compared to Blago, Spitzer, Paterson, McGreevey, et. al.

another reason to think it's *not* scandal related, unless, of course, you have PDS like some people 'round these parts.

185 lobo91  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:13:28pm

re: #176 wahabicorridor

Wouldn't those legal fees have been picked up by the state?

Probably depends on the crcumstances of the complaint.

186 Thanos  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:13:40pm

re: #90 Gus 802

Was looking in Wiki:

Sean Parnell

and:

[Link: ltgov.state.ak.us...]

Endorsed by the Toomey machine, I don't look at that as a positive

187 NoWhereAlaska  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:13:52pm

re: #173 Racer X

Next week?

It will be all over the interwebs in another hour.

Believe me there is the obvious inside news, and the less obvious. I doubt that the interweb will have anything approaching 'reality' when in comes to Palin.

188 midwestgak  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:14:23pm

If I were an Alaskan, I think I would feel a great loss right now.

Could she be going into the private energy sector? Promoting it for America?

189 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:14:43pm

re: #182 Killgore Trout

That's possible but I think unlikely. There are always partisan complainers and every politician has to deal with it.

Please not like the kind she has had to put up with.

190 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:14:58pm

re: #178 redc1c4

i'm not sure i would have even tried.....

(to hold back, that is. %-)

I was seriously hoping Sarah's response to Letterman would be: "Dave you otta shut your smug assed mouth before Todd comes down there and bashes it in. You're a punk."

191 solomonpanting  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:14:59pm

re: #177 Honcho

Is there some MP in Iraq with a big smile on his face?

Qué?

192 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:15:12pm

re: #174 Nevergiveup

Thank you

LOL :D

193 freedomplow  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:15:21pm

Not a Friday news dump imho. This will be covered extensively regardless.

She scares the sh*t out of them. That's why they hate her so much.

Big enough to pull MSNBC out of their "Lockup" series.

194 callahan23  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:15:24pm

re: #188 midwestgak

If I were an Alaskan, I think I would feel a great loss right now.

Could she be going into the private energy sector? Promoting it for America?

DRILL NOW!
Or some such?

195 Kulhwch  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:15:39pm

re: #47 Kulhwch

... and, yes, I know this is old old news, but I just found the quote and loved it.

}:)     [You can tell how important sports are in my life ... ]

196 Adrenalyn  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:16:18pm

I've got it
she killed Michael Jackson
and is about to be indicted

ok, not that either....

would you believe:

someone found Trig's b.c. and Todd is not the father
she is not the mother

someone is coming forward saying she is Sarah's first husband and that they are still legally married

she killed Vince Foster

she is the daughter of Helen Thomas and word is about to leak out

197 Thanos  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:16:26pm

Nothing up at Sarahpac btw

[Link: www.sarahpac.com...]

198 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:16:29pm

re: #189 Nevergiveup

Please not like the kind she has had to put up with.

Imagine if Øbama or Michelle had to endure just 10% of the ridicule directed at her by the MSM?

199 lawhawk  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:16:30pm

re: #193 freedomplow

Friday night news dumps aren't always effective, but it is a way to minimize the news cycle. Putting it out on a holiday weekend goes to that effect.

Just because it was a FNND doesn't mean it will stop people from talking... that's the hoped for result.

200 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:16:31pm

Her statement is sorta rambling and unprepared, though she got in some good points.

This is just sorta strange.

201 Last Mohican  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:16:37pm

re: #82 Killgore Trout

I really doubt this is about a presidential run. It doesn't make any sense to quit this early. One of her biggest draw backs is her lack of experience, she's only served 2-3 years and then quit! That's not experience. I suspect there might be a big scandal getting ready to break and she's preemptively stepping down. Is this is about a presidential run it's a very very stupid move.

I agree completely. Resigning now kills whatever chance she might have had in the 2012 election. She can't be doing this because she wants to run for president. I suspect it may be for personal reasons, and I wish her the best whatever the reason is. She's not my favorite choice from a political perspective, but I think very highly of her as a person, and the vicious, disgusting way in which the press decided to attack her personally during the last election was nothing short of obscene.

202 chedgeman  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:16:45pm

On August 1st, she'll still be a better governor than the one in New York.

203 Catttt  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:16:47pm

I want to go on the record as having no freaking clue why she did it.

204 Jimmah  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:16:52pm

re: #129 jcm

Naturism, with Dave Angel, Eco-Warrior:

205 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:17:33pm

I can think of a good reason, that isn't bad news, except politically. Maybe she's pregnant. I do not mean any snark by that.

206 Lincolntf  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:17:34pm

re: #187 NoWhereAlaska

Just take a screenshot of this whole thread and then watch how over the next week every single theory advanced so far will have web-articles and even detailed treatises to back up that position.
Most web-links wins, it's the new truth.

207 capitalist piglet  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:17:36pm

re: #198 unrealizedviewpoint

Imagine if Øbama or Michelle had to endure just 10% of the ridicule directed at her by the MSM?

Frankly, Bill Clinton was treated better...and he actually was a slut.

208 richiep  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:17:42pm

All things considered Palin probably decided to give herself and family a break from the public spot light. From the fear (why else the relentless hammering of her over nonsense) the left has of her. The attacks against her children, the unsubstantiated ethics charges, etc.

Fortunately for the US she did run for VP and mitigated the November 2008 election disaster.

Who ever does run on the Republican ticket in 2012 will seek her for her fund raising capability and her ability to draw large crowds.

Then again, maybe Sara is planning on starting a secessionist movement for Alaska.

Question; will Alaska or Texas be the first to leave the Union?

209 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:17:53pm

brilliant actually...she has good reason to step down (baring some criminal scandal)....she can move on and make a ton of money without having to answer to anybody...she can fight for the GOP with gloves off...buy a sweet ranch in Idaho...she can square it with assholes that have been needlessly cruel to her and get paid a fortune for it

210 freedomplow  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:17:56pm

She even scares the crap out of the McCain moderates... Hence the leaked emails.

211 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:18:40pm

This is the first time I've posted on LGF since election day 2008. It's unfortunate that I do so now, seeing how the occasion is the announcement of Governor Sarah Palin's resignation as Governor. Heck, she's the only REASON I voted for the McCain ticket.

But what is up with this, Sarah? I want to see the silver lining. I really do. Show me the money, the oil, the love, anything. I'm shaking here.

212 ArmyWife  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:18:45pm

re: #87 reine.de.tout

I think all the stuff about the infighting on the campaign has been coming out for a reason. Could she be heading for a Senate bid rather than Pres? I hope this is what it is, I'm a huge fan and will be so very upset if I learn I've had her back all this time and it wasn't deserved.

/not that she cares if I had it or not, but that isn't the point.

213 victor_yugo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:19:00pm

re: #154 Wendya

No, it's not. It's a normal part of being a woman.

So is post-partum depression, but any doctor who says "deal with it" would rightly be called cruel and callous.

214 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:19:04pm

re: #210 freedomplow

She even scares the crap out of the McCain moderates... Hence the leaked emails.

Talk about a bunch of freaken assholes and low lifes.

215 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:19:06pm

I really like Sarah Palin; would love to have her as a neighbor or relative. She showed a lot of promise to be the VP. She certainly would do no worse than that idiot Joe Biden.

I wish you the best Sarah.

216 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:19:16pm

"Dead fish go with the flow"

217 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:19:17pm

re: #200 BigPapa

Her statement is sorta rambling and unprepared, though she got in some good points.

This is just sorta strange.

at least we can follow her and she is saying something like a normal person in conversation. how refreshing.

218 Sharmuta  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:19:27pm

Wow.

I wonder if she isn't just sick of the scrutiny.

219 katemaclaren  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:19:37pm

Her press conference--teleprompter free--is good--strong and determined. if she does run for POTUS, I for one, will support her.

220 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:19:39pm

Live feed on FOX.

/sounds like she's just pissed, with $500K in legal bills

221 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:19:47pm

re: #198 unrealizedviewpoint

Imagine if Øbama or Michelle had to endure just 10% of the ridicule directed at her by the MSM?

the US would run out of popcorn!

222 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:20:03pm

re: #193 freedomplow

Not a Friday news dump imho. This will be covered extensively regardless.

She scares the sh*t out of them. That's why they hate her so much.

Big enough to pull MSNBC out of their "Lockup" series.

in spite of their irrational livid behavior...liberals deny being threatened by he...read up thread...that logic is just stupifying...and now she can really gun for them

223 midwestgak  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:20:05pm

re: #194 callahan23

DRILL NOW!
Or some such?

Yes, some such. She is very into energy. Maybe being in office limits her ability to accomplish this goal.

I'm listening to her speech. She just said, "We all know that only dead fish go with the flow."

224 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:20:22pm

re: #220 Killian Bundy

Live feed on FOX.

/sounds like she's just pissed, with $500K in legal bills

Well it's tape but still

225 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:20:28pm

if anyone has the right to bow out for awhile to sort out family issues, it is Palin. Between her own special needs baby and her grandchild that is practically the same age, she has a lot of work to do in determining a proper future for the family. maybe politics are the course they take, or maybe not. As I said, I do not see her as a future POTUS, but I see her as a very fine regional GOP player. Good luck to her and her family.

226 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:20:29pm

re: #218 Sharmuta

Wow.

I wonder if she isn't just sick of the scrutiny.

Bad attitude if you're angling for the Presidency.

227 capitalist piglet  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:20:36pm

re: #182 Killgore Trout

That's possible but I think unlikely. There are always partisan complainers and every politician has to deal with it.

Please name one who has been treated the way she has, keeping in mind that she hasn't done anything wrong.

Just one.

This has been a leftist, sexist orgy of hate since the day McCain introduced her as his running mate.

228 katemaclaren  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:20:40pm

I love her quote--"my husband and I are fishermen, and know that only dead fish go with the flow..."

229 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:21:12pm

re: #198 unrealizedviewpoint

Imagine if Øbama or Michelle had to endure just 10% of the ridicule directed at her by the MSM?

They just about collapsed under "scrutiny" from Helen Thomas.

230 Jimmah  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:21:12pm

Is it possible she has just thought "Sod this, I'm not going any further in politics, might as well get out now, and not have the rest of the party wasting their hopes and energies on me for the next year or so"?

231 katemaclaren  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:21:33pm

re: #227 capitalist piglet

Please name one who has been treated the way she has, keeping in mind that she hasn't done anything wrong.

Just one.

This has been a leftist, sexist orgy of hate since the day McCain introduced her as his running mate.

I wish I could give you 10 updings for this comment.

232 lobo91  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:21:33pm

My WAG is that it's a combination of not wanting to fight all the smears and bogus complaints while in office, while simultaneously moving on to a new project (energy independence, probably) that will enhance her credibility for a 2016 run.

She can probably make more in a month in speaking fees as a private citizen than she gets as governor for a year. Plus, there's the inevitable book deal...

233 poteen  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:21:37pm

Working the Obama pres. campaign model maybe?

Get away from front and center national politics for a while, out of the bullseye as it were, then come back in time for a Senate or Pres. run with fewer political wounds to dress. I don't think she'll be forgotten in 2 to 4 years.

re: #201 Last Mohican

Obama proved experience isn't necessary.

234 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:21:50pm

re: #218 Sharmuta

Wow.

I wonder if she isn't just sick of the scrutiny.

I'm hoping that is the case and its not something really bad for her or her family. I would totally understand if she just said "fock it. I'm out."

235 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:21:54pm

re: #206 Lincolntf

Just take a screenshot of this whole thread and then watch how over the next week every single theory advanced so far will have web-articles and even detailed treatises to back up that position.
Most web-links wins, it's the new truth.

she's going to issue herself a hunting license for trash-talking political pundits and so called entertainers....

236 haakondahl  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:21:54pm

re: #203 Catttt

I want to go on the record as having no freaking clue why she did it.

She is resigning because hundreds of millions of dollars and a vendetta press can ruin your personal and professional lives. Not only to protect her family, but her state. Be proud, MSM. You have taken down the most popular, highest approval-rated Governor in America.

237 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:21:57pm

re: #212 ArmyWife

I think all the stuff about the infighting on the campaign has been coming out for a reason. Could she be heading for a Senate bid rather than Pres? I hope this is what it is, I'm a huge fan and will be so very upset if I learn I've had her back all this time and it wasn't deserved.

/not that she cares if I had it or not, but that isn't the point.

you cannot explain PDS...it just is

238 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:21:59pm

Dear God, this isn't going to play well with the press. They will cream her (comme d'habitude). They will make a total allusion to the McCain "suspension of campaign", as proof positive that she's not steady.

OMG, Fox just cut her off midsentence.

239 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:22:13pm

re: #217 nyc redneck

at least we can follow her and she is saying something like a normal person in conversation. how refreshing.

Fair enough LOL.

She made the point that she's quitting because it costs Alaska too much time and money to have her as Gov. A good case can be made for this, but I don't know if it will hold.

240 katemaclaren  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:22:27pm

re: #226 vbspurs

Bad attitude if you're angling for the Presidency.

Maybe she's NOT angling for anything. She sounds fed up.

241 McJeff  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:22:29pm

I wouldn't think this has anything to do with a 2012 presidential run. Stepping down as governor would be the kiss of death to any campaign, all the dem against her would have to do is run a campaign based on "how can you trust her not to quit?"

What I'd like to see is for Ms. Palin to put together some sort of anti-liberal-media group. See if she can't use her own experiences to do some serious decreditation to the media. Decreditation isn't a word, but it should be.

Any chance she could coax Karl Rove out of retirement?

242 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:22:31pm

my son just called from Israel .... he floated on the Dead Sea today.

243 Sharmuta  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:22:55pm

re: #226 vbspurs

It's nice to see you again.

I hate to say it, but she'll never be president. There is too much misogyny left in our culture, and I wouldn't blame her for not wanting to put herself through it.

244 katemaclaren  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:23:07pm

She also has a baby who needs her and I think she is very serious about this cause.

245 jaunte  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:23:13pm

re: #230 Jimmah

Is it possible she has just thought "Sod this, I'm not going any further in politics, might as well get out now, and not have the rest of the party wasting their hopes and energies on me for the next year or so"?

From the Purdum article linked above:

"Palin has shown herself to have remarkable gut instincts about raw politics, and she has seen openings where others did not. And she has the good fortune to have traction within a political party that is bereft of strong leadership, and whose rank and file often demands qualities other than knowledge, experience, and an understanding that facts are, as John Adams said, stubborn things. It is, at the moment, a party in which the loudest and most singular voices, not burdened by responsibility, wield disproportionate power. She may decide that she does not need office in order to have great influence—any more than Rush Limbaugh does."
246 katemaclaren  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:23:25pm

...and her son? Her son is fighting a hot war right now.

247 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:23:30pm

re: #229 Gus 802

They just about collapsed under "scrutiny" from Helen Thomas.

Who didn't just love Helen for those few minutes?

248 Code Red 21  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:23:34pm

Politics aside I just hope there is nothing wrong, health-wise, with Sarah or her family. God bless them they need all of the help than can get.

249 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:23:38pm

re: #242 _RememberTonyC

my son just called from Israel .... he floated on the Dead Sea today.

kinda hard not to?
/

250 cronus  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:23:38pm

re: #230 Jimmah

Is it possible she has just thought "Sod this, I'm not going any further in politics, might as well get out now, and not have the rest of the party wasting their hopes and energies on me for the next year or so"?

As of now I think this is the most likely rationale.

251 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:23:41pm

re: #240 katemaclaren

Maybe she's NOT angling for anything. She sounds fed up.

Sigh. Yes, I think you're right. Too bad about Senator Stevens. She would've been a great Senator from Alaska.

252 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:23:48pm

Why be a lame duck? That's what's wrong with politics.

/she's just had enough

253 SixDegrees  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:23:52pm

re: #188 midwestgak

If I were an Alaskan, I think I would feel a great loss right now.

Could she be going into the private energy sector? Promoting it for America?

Hardly worth a resignation.

More pure speculation, but I wonder if the announcement is related to the release of campaign emails, as noted in the thread just downstairs. Perhaps the source has access to other emails that are less than flattering.

Again, time will tell. But my bad feelings about this are growing. If the cause were some sort of family emergency - an illness, let's say - I would expect the announcement of her resignation would mention the specifics. The absence of any explanation doesn't bode well for Palin, in my own fact-starved opinion.

254 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:23:55pm

Twitter is showing it's true colors with the news. Moonbat central for the most part. Lots of Palin Derangement Syndrome.

255 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:24:09pm

re: #236 haakondahl

She is resigning because hundreds of millions of dollars and a vendetta press can ruin your personal and professional lives. Not only to protect her family, but her state. Be proud, MSM. You have taken down the most popular, highest approval-rated Governor in America.

there will be payback...

256 midwestgak  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:24:15pm

Hum. No teleprompter. Knows what to say from the heart and mind.

257 katemaclaren  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:24:17pm

re: #243 Sharmuta

It's nice to see you again.

I hate to say it, but she'll never be president. There is too much misogyny left in our culture, and I wouldn't blame her for not wanting to put herself through it.

I agree about the misogyny--but it seems to be WOMEN who are the meanest.

258 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:24:30pm

re: #247 unrealizedviewpoint

Who didn't just love Helen for those few minutes?

Ditto. If she can just keep up that line of questioning and commentary. Probably not.

259 Adrenalyn  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:24:32pm

my dad always said you had to be dishonest or stupid to be in politics

I think she just proven herself neither of those today
as far as I am concerned

260 pat  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:24:56pm

I suspect we will hear a lot more. She has half a million in legal fees fighting silly ethic complaints, all of which so far have proven to be nothing. But that does not mean the attacks have stopped. She has been relentlessly attacked both by a very corrupt Alaskan GOP and a very liberal Democratic Party. Maybe they managed an indictment or a charge. Then their is the attacked on her family that seem to serve fodder for moonbat humor. I mean mental retardation, statutory rape, lust for her daughter are such thigh slappers.

261 SixDegrees  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:24:58pm

re: #213 victor_yugo

So is post-partum depression, but any doctor who says "deal with it" would rightly be called cruel and callous.

OT - is that a Game of Life glider in your avatar?

262 victor_yugo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:24:58pm

re: #242 _RememberTonyC

my son just called from Israel .... he floated on the Dead Sea today.

Big deal. Anybody could do that. Now, if he sank, that'd be something else!

263 katemaclaren  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:25:17pm

re: #255 albusteve

Yep. Hasta la vista, baby.

264 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:25:19pm

re: #254 Gus 802

Twitter is showing it's its true colors with the news. Moonbat central for the most part. Lots of Palin Derangement Syndrome.

Correction. Just in case the Grammar Police is reading. //

265 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:25:26pm

re: #243 Sharmuta

It's nice to see you again.

I hate to say it, but she'll never be president. There is too much misogyny left in our culture, and I wouldn't blame her for not wanting to put herself through it.

Thanks Sharmuta!

About misogyny: America is lightyears ahead of Britain (my homeland, just to refresh the memory ;), and we had a woman Prime Minister.

There is no attitude strong enough that won't buckle to an extraordinary person. I don't know that Sarah Palin is that person...

266 haakondahl  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:25:38pm

re: #238 vbspurs

Dear God, this isn't going to play well with the press. They will cream her (comme d'habitude). They will make a total allusion to the McCain "suspension of campaign", as proof positive that she's not steady.

OMG, Fox just cut her off midsentence.

CNN too. Lost the signal from Alaska--not FOX or CNN's fault,.

267 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:25:38pm

Whatever it is - it is ODD. And whatever it is, I wish her well.

-S-

268 itellu3times  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:25:53pm

ISS_det_tax

269 DEZes  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:26:00pm

re: #254 Gus 802

Twitter is showing it's true colors with the news. Moonbat central for the most part. Lots of Palin Derangement Syndrome.

I figured liberals would be dancing around like jihadists after a beheading.

270 victor_yugo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:26:05pm

re: #261 SixDegrees

Yes.

271 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:26:11pm

she sounds enthusiastic. she doesn't sound like she is quitting. i bet she goes into the private sector and is very successful. and maybe she will even go back to politics.

btw, all of that "uh-uh free" heartfelt speech was w/ out a telepromter.
o can't even say his name w/ out a prompter

272 ~Fianna  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:26:25pm

re: #159 MandyManners

I missed that one. What's it about?

The issues with Todd's family and the trooper thing, for one. Todd being cc'd on all her emails. The DWIs. His half-sister getting arrested for burglary, etc.

I discount the drug rumors because they're just rumors... but it still isn't good for her that he seems like the kind of person that you can spread those sorts of rumors about. From what I've been able to determine about Todd, not knowing him personally, of course, is that he doesn't seem to have the best judgment.

Palin herself seems like a fairly classy lady, but Todd's family seems a little... out of control?

Part of the problem with being "real" people is that we generally don't want our politicians to be "real" people - we want to see them as the best of us, and even if the Governor herself can inspire that in people, I think that Todd's something of a liability.

273 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:26:37pm

re: #249 Nevergiveup

kinda hard not to?
/

LOL ... I've never been ... but I live vicariously through others

274 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:27:11pm

re: #269 DEZes

I figured liberals would be dancing around like jihadists after a beheading.

Yeah, pretty much that. The libs will be acting like they did in Gaza on 9/12/2001.

275 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:27:13pm

re: #272 ~Fianna

The issues with Todd's family and the trooper thing, for one. Todd being cc'd on all her emails. The DWIs. His half-sister getting arrested for burglary, etc.

I discount the drug rumors because they're just rumors... but it still isn't good for her that he seems like the kind of person that you can spread those sorts of rumors about. From what I've been able to determine about Todd, not knowing him personally, of course, is that he doesn't seem to have the best judgment.

Palin herself seems like a fairly classy lady, but Todd's family seems a little... out of control?

Part of the problem with being "real" people is that we generally don't want our politicians to be "real" people - we want to see them as the best of us, and even if the Governor herself can inspire that in people, I think that Todd's something of a liability.

Just curious, do you remember Carter's family?

276 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:27:20pm

re: #262 victor_yugo

Big deal. Anybody could do that. Now, if he sank, that'd be something else!

I suppose I asked for this ..... :P

277 midwestgak  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:27:54pm

re: #242 _RememberTonyC

my son just called from Israel .... he floated on the Dead Sea today.

I floated on the Dead Sea in 1982. It's impossible to sink! The water is so dense with salt. The water feels oily too.

278 pat  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:27:57pm

Obama's brother is not even allowed in Britain.

279 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:27:59pm

Here's a transcript of here statement.....

. “I am determined to take the right path for Alaska even though it is not the easiest path,” said Governor Palin after the announcement. “Once I decided not to run for re-election, I also felt that to embrace the conventional ‘Lame Duck’ status in this particular climate would just be another dose of ‘politics as usual,’ something I campaigned against and will always oppose. It is my duty to always protect our great state. With that in mind, my family and I determined that it is best to make a difference this summer, and I am willing to change things, so that this administration, with its positive agenda, its accomplishments, and its successful road to an incredible future, can continue without interruption and with great administrative and legislative success. I look forward to helping others - to fight for our state and our country, and campaign for those who believe in smaller government, free enterprise, strong national security, support for our troops, and energy independence.” The transfer of power will occur following the Governor’s picnic in Fairbanks on July 26. At that point in time, Lieutenant Governor Sean Parnell will be sworn in and Lieutenant General Craig Campbell will assume his role as Lieutenant Governor. Governor Palin will spend July 4th in Juneau.
280 Sharmuta  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:28:03pm

re: #244 katemaclaren

She also has a baby who needs her and I think she is very serious about this cause.

She's young. She has kids. And she's become a favorite target. I wouldn't blame her and her family for not wanting to endure more of this for years.

281 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:28:04pm

re: #257 katemaclaren

I agree about the misogyny--but it seems to be WOMEN who are the meanest.

crabs in a bucket.....

282 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:28:19pm

re: #264 Gus 802

Correction. Just in case the Grammar Police is reading. //

ARE reading.

Sheesh.

- Grammar Police

283 Catttt  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:28:25pm

I saw someone mentioned menopause. I had a hysterectomy some years ago and also took anti-estrogen due to the type of breast cancer I had. I remember a workshop at a Pagan festival I went to - it was called "The Accidental Crone." Heh. Anyway, I had instant menopause, do not pass go, do not collect 200 bucks.

It was really weird, because it did change a lot of things about me, but probably not in the way you would guess. I felt like someone was shooting me up with testosterone, to be honest. The weirdest thing was the emotional thing women do sometimes - crying when they get upset, especially, was just - gone. That's when I started understanding why men don't know what to do with themselves when women cry. Obviously, this was not due to anything I did consciously in my mind. There is such a thing as hormonal influences when women get upset - it is not a character flaw and is nothing to be ashamed of.

I have a male friend with an interesting idea - he thinks that as we get older, men get more like women and women get more like men. :D

284 iceweasel  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:28:25pm

re: #269 DEZes

I figured liberals would be dancing around like jihadists after a beheading.

Not really. The diehard partisan liberals were praying she'd be the 2012 candidate because they didn't believe she'd have a chance.

285 ArmyWife  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:28:27pm

re: #245 jaunte

There a thought. Here's another. She wrestles Michael Steele from the head of the RNC, and gets our party back on track, making 2010 a blood bath for Dems, and 2012 a REAL landslide with a yet to be discovered Reaganesque candidate.

/ok, a fantasy more than a thought. But it would be cool wouldn't it?

286 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:28:37pm

re: #273 _RememberTonyC

LOL ... I've never been ... but I live vicariously through others

It's great unless you have a lot of cuts on your body or your one who shaves your privates ( no personal knowledge on that one, but I've heard ).

287 Adrenalyn  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:28:50pm

why couldn't George Bush have resigned and left it for Cheney to fight the libs ?

we'd have been better off, IMHO

288 haakondahl  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:29:01pm

Ed Rollins--"This is a story that's got long legs, and everybody's gonna look hard again..."

Heh.

289 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:29:11pm
290 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:29:14pm

re: #271 nyc redneck

she sounds enthusiastic. she doesn't sound like she is quitting. i bet she goes into the private sector and is very successful. and maybe she will even go back to politics.

She continues to amaze me. She is by far, the most natural politician I've ever seen, largely because she ignores the existence of a fourth wall.

291 ArmyWife  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:29:27pm

re: #272 ~Fianna

have you met the Rodhams or Clintons? You know you are a redneck when....

(no offense to rednecks, mind you.)

292 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:29:31pm

I hope she is just blabbing on when she really want's to say is..."fuck you lunatic liberals, I don't have time for your gutter politics and fuck you slimeball MSM....I'm going to be your worst nightmare"...

293 SixDegrees  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:29:38pm

re: #270 victor_yugo

Yes.

I hate to think about how much time I spent in the early 70s fiddling with that game using pencil and graph paper. And how much more time I spent in later years writing programs for it on various computers.

Hmmm...I haven't done that in a while, and I've got a brand-new 8-core i7 machine that I haven't done any multithreading on yet...

294 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:29:39pm

re: #277 midwestgak

I floated on the Dead Sea in 1982. It's impossible to sink! The water is so dense with salt. The water feels oily too.

one day i hope to give it a try!

295 twh  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:29:43pm

Just watched her speech on Fox.
My feeling right off the top of my head. In 2012, she is going to look pretty good after 3 years of a community organizer for President.

296 J.S.  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:30:24pm

re: #198 unrealizedviewpoint

there was a YouTube video link posted here the other day -- showing Obama stumbling (absolutely off) during one of those townhall meetings on Health Care...I really wonder what would happen to Obama's poll numbers if that clip were played 15 times every day for a week and then presented as if that were "the norm"?

297 gearhead  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:30:43pm

re: #4 Charles

I'm wondering if there's more to this than the 2012 election.

Her speech seemed to focus a lot on energy. Job offer? Running for Senate? Congress? Talk show?

298 Charles  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:30:53pm

I wouldn't blame her for not wanting to deal with the constant negativity, and if that's the motivation I wish her the best.

However, if she does plan on running for president, this doesn't seem like the best way to handle that kind of pressure.

299 SixDegrees  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:31:26pm

re: #275 Nevergiveup

Just curious, do you remember Carter's family?

They were like the Beverly Hillbillies on acid.

300 gearhead  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:31:27pm

re: #256 midwestgak

Hum. No teleprompter. Knows what to say from the heart and mind.

HAS a heart and mind.

301 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:31:30pm

re: #294 _RememberTonyC

one day i hope to give it a try!

Jump on a plane. it's great. Just keep your mouth closed.

302 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:31:49pm

Gee, she voluntarily goes away and they're already trashing her for it.

/can't win for losing

303 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:32:16pm

re: #286 Nevergiveup

It's great unless you have a lot of cuts on your body or your one who shaves your privates ( no personal knowledge on that one, but I've heard ).


if you're a scaly lizard, is it a pleasant swim? My son said the same thing about the cuts ... he's skinned a lot of knees playing tennis.

304 Wendya  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:32:18pm

re: #213 victor_yugo

So is post-partum depression, but any doctor who says "deal with it" would rightly be called cruel and callous.

All women go through peri-menopause. Not all women suffer from PPD.

Women have gone through this since the beginning of time. It's a natural process. It may not be pleasant all the time but you get through it, not use it as an excuse.

305 bulwrk  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:32:56pm

re: #299 SixDegrees

Who could forget Billy Beer?

306 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:32:57pm

re: #284 iceweasel

Not really. The diehard partisan liberals were praying she'd be the 2012 candidate because they didn't believe she'd have a chance.

diehard liberals, OTOH get absolutely everything wrong...they can get elected but their total abject failures are exposed...they do have stupid voters and the MSM in their pocket tho...people are gullible aren't they?

307 Code Red 21  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:33:04pm

Part of the problem with being "real" people is that we generally don't want our politicians to be "real" people - we want to see them as the best of us, and even if the Governor herself can inspire that in people, I think that Todd's something of a liability.

We have a person in office now who has a background filled with the most unsavory characters you could ever possibly dream up and Sarah's got a problem?

308 jones  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:33:09pm

re: #295 twh

Just watched her speech on Fox.
My feeling right off the top of my head. In 2012, she is going to look pretty good after 3 years of a community organizer for President.

A woman who worked on problems in the private sector will be oxygen after being stuck in a submarine.

309 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:33:09pm

Write a book Sarah.

/have your say, make millions for your family

310 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:33:34pm

re: #297 gearhead

Her speech seemed to focus a lot on energy. Job offer? Running for Senate? Congress? Talk show?

Talk show, no. She's given the medium a total cold shoulder (thank God). Congress/Senate, maybe, but if she does run, she won't run in 2012 for the Presidency.

She needs experience, so if I were she, I would try to get a high-powered job in the energy sector.

311 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:33:40pm

re: #298 Charles

I wouldn't blame her for not wanting to deal with the constant negativity, and if that's the motivation I wish her the best.

However, if she does plan on running for president, this doesn't seem like the best way to handle that kind of pressure.


I think she probably knows that. She was forever tainted in 2008 and is not viable as a future POTUS. The politics of personal destruction at work.

312 lobo91  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:33:44pm

re: #279 Killgore Trout

From your link:

Lieutenant Governor Sean Parnell will be sworn in and Lieutenant General Craig Campbell will assume his role as Lieutenant Governor.

Interesting. The state Adjutant General is becoming the Lt Governor.

Also interesting that Alaska is one of two states I know of (Texas) being the other) that appears to appoint its Adjutant General to 3 star rank. In both cases, they have to put on 2 stars if they leave the state, however, since the Army doesn't recognize the appointments.

313 callahan23  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:34:06pm

re: #292 albusteve

I hope she is just blabbing on when she really want's to say is..."fuck you lunatic liberals, I don't have time for your gutter politics and fuck you slimeball MSM....I'm going to be your worst nightmare"...

Oh gosh, so deep felt. Thanks.

314 chedgeman  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:34:22pm

re: #298 Charles

Perhaps, but if the new freedom allows her to go on the offense than that is a positive.

315 J.S.  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:34:36pm

re: #302 Killian Bundy

CBC is adding to the list of "the reasons her critics hated her" -- this time, it was all due to her Alaskan accent...yeah, that's it.

316 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:34:52pm

re: #303 _RememberTonyC

if you're a scaly lizard, is it a pleasant swim? My son said the same thing about the cuts ... he's skinned a lot of knees playing tennis.

it's fun. This time of year it is really hot and dry. You can climb Massada near by. Swim in a fresh stream almost next door in Ein Gedi. And still have dinner in Jerusalem that night. Ain't no place in the world like it.

317 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:35:07pm

The MSM just experienced an accidental discharge in their pants.

318 gearhead  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:35:16pm

re: #302 Killian Bundy

Gee, she voluntarily goes away and they're already trashing her for it.

/can't win for losing

If she discovered the cure for cancer, her opponent would find a way to trash her for it.

319 ~Fianna  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:35:18pm

re: #275 Nevergiveup

Just curious, do you remember Carter's family?

Only Billy beer, and that's only from pictures.

We also didn't have the 24-7 news cycle and the internet back then. What wouldn't have made the 6:00 news because it wasn't actually news almost 30 years ago gets endlessly dissected now because there's hours and gigabytes of bandwith to fill.

320 DEZes  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:35:23pm

re: #305 bulwrk

Who could forget Billy Beer?

That was the nastiest crap ever canned.

321 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:35:29pm

re: #272 ~Fianna

The issues with Todd's family and the trooper thing, for one. Todd being cc'd on all her emails. The DWIs. His half-sister getting arrested for burglary, etc.

I discount the drug rumors because they're just rumors... but it still isn't good for her that he seems like the kind of person that you can spread those sorts of rumors about. From what I've been able to determine about Todd, not knowing him personally, of course, is that he doesn't seem to have the best judgment.

Palin herself seems like a fairly classy lady, but Todd's family seems a little... out of control?

Part of the problem with being "real" people is that we generally don't want our politicians to be "real" people - we want to see them as the best of us, and even if the Governor herself can inspire that in people, I think that Todd's something of a liability.

I didn't hold Billy Carter against Jimmy nor have I held any politician's sibling's actions against the politician.

322 nyc redneck  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:35:31pm

re: #290 vbspurs

She continues to amaze me. She is by far, the most natural politician I've ever seen, largely because she ignores the existence of a fourth wall.

she is the biggest threat the libs have seen since reagan

323 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:35:47pm

re: #283 Catttt

I have a male friend with an interesting idea - he thinks that as we get older, men get more like women and women get more like men. :D

...and people of all colors turn kinda gray, and resemble each other more.

324 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:35:52pm

re: #298 Charles

I wouldn't blame her for not wanting to deal with the constant negativity, and if that's the motivation I wish her the best.

However, if she does plan on running for president, this doesn't seem like the best way to handle that kind of pressure.

It also indicates that she was not capable of being in the White House as VP. The pressure and scrutiny she's undergoing is nothing compared to what she'd be dealing with if she was VP.

325 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:35:56pm

If she makes the compelling case of the negative character stuff causing her to rethink it's impact on her family and negatively impacting Alaska sucking her bandwidth and funding away, then she can come out on top of this. This is not the path to the presidency however.

I am awaiting her next move or statement. She's been full of some surprises so far.

326 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:36:03pm
327 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:36:05pm

re: #301 Nevergiveup

Jump on a plane. it's great. Just keep your mouth closed.


my next stop is bermuda ... I wonder if I will run into one of the uighers?

328 ArmyWife  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:36:21pm

re: #307 Code Red 21

Again, let me remind you of the Clinton clan and Hillary's family of wierdos. Someone else mentioned the Carters. Todd is no more a liability than Hillary was - assuming it's played right.

329 midwestgak  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:36:39pm

re: #298 Charles

I wouldn't blame her for not wanting to deal with the constant negativity, and if that's the motivation I wish her the best.

However, if she does plan on running for president, this doesn't seem like the best way to handle that kind of pressure.

Palin is a "get things done" kinda gal. She has found that having a title and office in politics isn't the best avenue to getting things done efficiently, IMHO.

Private sector work. Like all of us. Get things done.

330 iceweasel  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:36:44pm

re: #306 albusteve

diehard liberals, OTOH get absolutely everything wrong...they can get elected but their total abject failures are exposed...they do have stupid voters and the MSM in their pocket tho...people are gullible aren't they?

I'd argue that both parties have their share of stupid voters, and that the MSM sucks no matter who it happens to be pandering to -- or deciding it should wave pitchforks at.

331 freedomplow  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:36:44pm

She's popular enough to survive stepping down. Rove!

332 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:36:52pm

Chuck Heath Jr, Palin's adored older brother, allegedly found out about the resignation the same time as all of us.

This isn't good. This might have been boiling in her for a while (maybe the Letterman thing was the last straw), but this decision has a lot of "sudden earthquake" behind it.

333 gearhead  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:37:05pm

re: #310 vbspurs

Talk show, no. She's given the medium a total cold shoulder (thank God). Congress/Senate, maybe, but if she does run, she won't run in 2012 for the Presidency.

She needs experience, so if I were she, I would try to get a high-powered job in the energy sector.

I think you're right. That's really what her speech sounded like to me.

334 calcajun  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:37:08pm

Either something very bad is about to break or she has decided she has had enough of the BS. This is very odd indeed. She will not be a candidate in 2012 --this shows that she is a quitter.

335 wrenchwench  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:37:16pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

It also indicates that she was not capable of being in the White House as VP. The pressure and scrutiny she's undergoing is nothing compared to what she'd be dealing with if she was VP.

That could be true if we knew why she resigned. It might not indicate anything of the sort, though.

336 iceman1960  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:37:19pm

I would bet she got tired of paying to fight off ethics charges. The Palin's aren't wealthy people.
Like she said it doesn't cost a dime to slime someone but it does to clean up the mess.
This is the problem with politics today.

337 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:37:23pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

It also indicates that she was not capable of being in the White House as VP. The pressure and scrutiny she's undergoing is nothing compared to what she'd be dealing with if she was VP.

Bullshit. That is not what she said.

338 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:37:33pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

It also indicates that she was not capable of being in the White House as VP. The pressure and scrutiny she's undergoing is nothing compared to what she'd be dealing with if she was VP.

oh bullshit...this proves nothing of the sort...you have PDS bad

339 yochanan  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:37:41pm

O.T.
[Link: www.nypost.com...]

AMEN.

340 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:37:47pm

Now CNN is back on Michael Jackson.... extremely disappointing.

341 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:37:49pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

It also indicates that she was not capable of being in the White House as VP. The pressure and scrutiny she's undergoing is nothing compared to what she'd be dealing with if she was VP.

What is Biden dealing with?

342 Code Red 21  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:38:13pm

re: #307 Code Red 21

Part of the problem with being "real" people is that we generally don't want our politicians to be "real" people - we want to see them as the best of us, and even if the Governor herself can inspire that in people, I think that Todd's something of a liability.

Darn it I forgot to put who I was responding to- 272 Fionna


We have a person in office now who has a background filled with the most unsavory characters you could ever possibly dream up and Sarah's got a problem?

343 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:38:21pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

It also indicates that she was not capable of being in the White House as VP. The pressure and scrutiny she's undergoing is nothing compared to what she'd be dealing with if she was VP.

Rachel Maddow to sneeringly mention that had Palin been elected VP, she would've resigned her office and left us all in the lurch in 3-2-1...

344 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:38:36pm
345 MSM  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:38:37pm

re: #317 Racer X

The MSM just experienced an accidental discharge in their pants.

I assure you that it was intentional.

346 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:38:42pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

It also indicates that she was not capable of being in the White House as VP. The pressure and scrutiny she's undergoing is nothing compared to what she'd be dealing with if she was VP.

And Joe Biden is under "pressure and scrutiny" by the MSM? Please, show me how this is the case and I will gladly review that information.

347 pink freud  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:38:43pm

re: #334 calcajun

Either something very bad is about to break or she has decided she has had enough of the BS. This is very odd indeed. She will not be a candidate in 2012 --this shows that she is a quitter.

Hard cold non-emotional analysis there. Agreed.

348 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:39:02pm

re: #330 iceweasel

I'd argue that both parties have their share of stupid voters, and that the MSM sucks no matter who it happens to be pandering to -- or deciding it should wave pitchforks at.

of course you would say so....

349 ~Fianna  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:39:04pm

re: #291 ArmyWife

have you met the Rodhams or Clintons? You know you are a redneck when....

(no offense to rednecks, mind you.)

Everyone's got one in the family (at least). The internet makes it much easier for everyone to find out about them.

350 yochanan  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:39:18pm

re: #340 BigPapa

Read my link one above yours.

351 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:39:21pm

re: #341 Racer X

What is Biden dealing with?

re: #344 buzzsawmonkey

Right--because Biden has been subjected to unrelenting pressure and scrutiny.

//

Up dings!

352 Catttt  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:39:22pm

Related, in a way:

Media Lizzy Dismissed by Politics Daily:Playboy’s Hate F*** List Strikes Again


For those of you who followed the saga of the Playboy “Hate F*** List,” its deletion by Playboy (then by Politico), my firing from Politics Daily, and its Editor-in-Chief’s campaign of lies to cover it up, there is a newer, sadder, much more unjust wrinkle to this story. You may recall that Media Lizzy played a pivotal role in outing Melinda Henneberger as a liar, providing a smoking-gun email that detailed Politic’s Daily’s internal decision not to address the Playboy story at all.


...

As of this writing, Politics Daily hasn’t explained the dismissal. I checked with other Hot Seat contributors, and none of them have been let go, although that may change if Melinda wants to cover her tracks again.

There are multiple ironies here, but chief among them is that this is an achievement of the Playboy article’s mission, to harm and marginalize conservative women. In this case, it has managed to do so to a wonderful woman who was spared inclusion on the original list.

Keep in mind that Mr. Christopher is NOT a conservative - and that he was fired from AOL right after he strongly criticized a misogynistic rant in Playboy that was just extremely awful - Charles linked to the coverage, iirc. Basically, it was a list of women Playboy thought it would be fun to rape.

353 iceweasel  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:39:25pm

re: #335 wrenchwench

That could be true if we knew why she resigned. It might not indicate anything of the sort, though.

Exactly. It's entirely possible that there is some devastating personal reason going on-- an illness or some family tragedy. I hope not, but we just don't know. This might not even have anything to do with politics.

354 brookly red  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:39:48pm

re: #340 BigPapa

Now CNN is back on Michael Jackson.... extremely disappointing.

well that proves no scandal...

355 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:39:51pm

re: #321 MandyManners

I didn't hold Billy Carter against Jimmy nor have I held any politician's sibling's actions against the politician.


i held it against him when the "patron saint of islamofascism" allowed billy to go to libya. that was bullshit.

356 jvic  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:40:16pm

re: #220 Killian Bundy

Live feed on FOX.

/sounds like she's just pissed, with $500K in legal bills

If the national GOP didn't helped one of its brightest rising stars (who happens not to be personally wealthy) deal with six- or seven-figure legal bills caused by opposition harassment, the Republicans are even more clueless than I thought.

Surely there is more to the situation than has come out so far.
************
As I said in the other thread, whatever brings Mike Huckabee closer to the Oval Office is a bad thing.

357 gatorbait  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:40:22pm

She is one hell of a classy dame and I wish her all the best life has to offer. Should she choose to stay in politics, she will always have my support. She is the best kind of person: honest, sincere, principled, and courageous.

358 Irish Rose  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:40:24pm

Sarah Palin is a sharp, savvy, direct. and extremely capable female politician who belongs in Washington, not Wasilla.

Whatever is going on, I wish their family well... they've been the ongoing target of one of the most vicious, rabid smear campaigns that I've ever seen emerge from the American left.

359 eon  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:40:26pm

re: #292 albusteve

I hope she is just blabbing on when she really want's to say is..."fuck you lunatic liberals, I don't have time for your gutter politics and fuck you slimeball MSM....I'm going to be your worst nightmare"...

That's sort of what I was thinking. I was also thinking of Reagan's Labor Secretary, Raymond Donovan, who was forced to resign his post by scattershot charges of "corruption", malfeasance in office, etc. After he was found innocent in court, Donovan said, "What court do I go to to get my good name back?"

The media weren't interested, as he was "yesterday's news" once he was found to be... honest.

I'm wondering if Governor Palin might not be thinking of the fact that, while as a sitting Governor the only thing she could do about the headhunters who keep trying to put her on their wall as a trophy is to "grin and bear it", as a private citizen she can sue them for libel and slander and, if she wins, collect punitive damages at least equal to her legal costs.

In effect, using the old Galactic Patrol Lensman procedure; "Prove it! Prove it or retract it!"

And of course, if she can show her "pursuers" up in court to be both lying, and politically motivated, consider how that might affect the playing field in 2010 and 2012.

/just thinking....

cheers

eon

360 MSM  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:40:54pm

re: #340 BigPapa

Now CNN is back on Michael Jackson.... extremely disappointing.

Don't worry. I'll be back before you can say "shovel". There is much work to be done, and this will be the most politically charged independence Day you have seen in twenty-five years.

361 Code Red 21  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:41:12pm

re: #328 ArmyWife

Again, let me remind you of the Clinton clan and Hillary's family of wierdos. Someone else mentioned the Carters. Todd is no more a liability than Hillary was - assuming it's played right.

I was quoting 272 Fionna and screwed it up. Believe me I am someone who admires Sarah.

362 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:41:26pm

re: #341 Racer X

What is Biden dealing with?

how to find the closet door.....

363 jones  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:41:58pm

This is getting odder. She just signed with the Vikings as their QB.

364 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:42:06pm

The one way MSM won't spin this announcement, is the way it SHOULD be reported:

"Independence Day for Sarah Palin"

365 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:42:20pm
366 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:42:26pm

Biden or Palin . . .

/who would you rather go to war with?

367 iceman1960  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:42:35pm

I believe that she has the best intention for her state and being the target she is more could get done if she stepped aside with all the distractions.
I could understand why most would think the worst. The state of modern politics has programmed us to have that response.
But I really doubt if her political career is over.

368 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:42:39pm

Had Biden been a Republican they would have destroyed him over his "Indians" working at "7-11s" video. They also would have never stopped at his plagiarism scandal.

Don't equate Palin with Biden.

369 Catttt  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:42:40pm

re: #319 ~Fianna

Only Billy beer, and that's only from pictures.

We also didn't have the 24-7 news cycle and the internet back then. What wouldn't have made the 6:00 news because it wasn't actually news almost 30 years ago gets endlessly dissected now because there's hours and gigabytes of bandwith to fill.

Not to mention no camera phones, no Twitter, no instant knowledge delivered directly to us by our comrades - with no need for an intermediary. Talk about "cat's out of the bag."

370 iceweasel  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:42:44pm

re: #356 jvic

If the national GOP didn't helped one of its brightest rising stars (who happens not to be personally wealthy) deal with six- or seven-figure legal bills caused by opposition harassment, the Republicans are even more clueless than I thought.

Not only that-- if the GOP wouldn't help one of its rising stars out with what is (by the standards of campaigns and fundraisers) a small amount of money-- what does that say about their commitment to work for her in 2012? Weird.

371 EmmmieG  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:42:53pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

It also indicates that she was not capable of being in the White House as VP. The pressure and scrutiny she's undergoing is nothing compared to what she'd be dealing with if she was VP.

If Obama and his family had been given the kind of scrutiny she was given, would he have been up to it? If they had attacked Malia and Sasha, gone after Michelle and dug through his trash, would he have been up to it? He snapped at a reporter over a stinking waffle.

372 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:42:54pm

re: #341 Racer X

What is Biden dealing with?


besides being a stupid bastard with bad hair plugs who lets Obama ship him all over the globe?

373 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:43:03pm

re: #363 jones

This is getting odder. She just signed with the Vikings as their QB.

The veteran journalist, Adela Rogers St. John, once said that the Duchess of Windsor could've played left tackle for the Vikings.

374 jaunte  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:43:26pm

re: #328 ArmyWife

Again, let me remind you of the Clinton clan and Hillary's family of wierdos. Someone else mentioned the Carters. Todd is no more a liability than Hillary was - assuming it's played right.

I understand that there is a political "Kennedy" family some of whose elected members have been known to have substance abuse problems.
/

375 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:43:40pm

re: #365 Killgore Trout

Koskidz have the video....
(Video) MELTDOWN: Palin Blames Media/Bloggers

Who cares what Daily Kos thinks.

376 MSM  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:43:59pm

re: #359 eon

After he was found innocent in court, Donovan said, "What court do I go to to get my good name back?"

Any court in the land, if I am on your side.

377 Grand Poobah  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:44:06pm

re: #175 MandyManners

Why not? It's a smart move.

How is releasing a parcel of information that could potentially hamper the GOP's efforts even more be a smart move?

It really is a shame the GOP members can't behave itself properly. You'd think that politicians would only have to be concerned with getting reelected and would concern themselves only with thus. (I'm not referencing Palin, whom I quite like. I'm referring to the governor who deserted his post a few weeks back.)

Democrats seem to play that game a lot better than the GOP. The amount of susceptible idiots wired straight into the mainstream media doesn't help their case much either.

378 ArmyWife  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:44:29pm

re: #362 albusteve

how to remove duck tape residue.

379 katemaclaren  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:44:42pm

re: #375 Gus 802

This should keep them busy for some time.

380 ~Fianna  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:44:59pm

re: #307 Code Red 21

Part of the problem with being "real" people is that we generally don't want our politicians to be "real" people - we want to see them as the best of us, and even if the Governor herself can inspire that in people, I think that Todd's something of a liability.

We have a person in office now who has a background filled with the most unsavory characters you could ever possibly dream up and Sarah's got a problem?

Thus sayth the spin machine.

I think the people Sarah Palin appeals to really find her appealing. I think the ones that don't find her appealing don't. The rest of the country looks at the newspapers or the internet and makes a decision based on something fairly stupid.

Also, the Obama campaign did a better job of handling those types of background issues then the McCain campaign did. I don't think McCain's team vetted enough and I don't think they knew what issues might come up to plan in advance, so they didn't have a strategy and just went with it.

The McCain team from everything that I heard was exceptionally disorganized - quite the opposite of the Bush campaign team. Conflicting messages, crazy stunts, leaks all over the place... Just an absolute mess.

381 Irish Rose  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:44:59pm

re: #371 EmmmieG

If Obama and his family had been given the kind of scrutiny she was given, would he have been up to it? If they had attacked Malia and Sasha, gone after Michelle and dug through his trash, would he have been up to it? He snapped at a reporter over a stinking waffle.

Well stated.

382 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:45:01pm

re: #365 Killgore Trout

Koskidz have the video....
(Video) MELTDOWN: Palin Blames Media/Bloggers

Bullshit Bullshit Bullshit. --It was no meltdown

383 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:45:06pm

re: #359 eon

That's sort of what I was thinking. I was also thinking of Reagan's Labor Secretary, Raymond Donovan, who was forced to resign his post by scattershot charges of "corruption", malfeasance in office, etc. After he was found innocent in court, Donovan said, "What court do I go to to get my good name back?"

The media weren't interested, as he was "yesterday's news" once he was found to be... honest.

I'm wondering if Governor Palin might not be thinking of the fact that, while as a sitting Governor the only thing she could do about the headhunters who keep trying to put her on their wall as a trophy is to "grin and bear it", as a private citizen she can sue them for libel and slander and, if she wins, collect punitive damages at least equal to her legal costs.

In effect, using the old Galactic Patrol Lensman procedure; "Prove it! Prove it or retract it!"

And of course, if she can show her "pursuers" up in court to be both lying, and politically motivated, consider how that might affect the playing field in 2010 and 2012.

excellent point....what a hoot if the left leaves her for dead and she has a surprise up her sleeve...what an irresistable story that would make

384 JarHeadLifer  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:45:07pm

re: #14 BigPapa

This is bad for Palin. Quitting 18 months out, after we just savaged Sanford for leaving 4 days without his staff knowing where he was.... not good.

Perfectly put. As they say, she's done, put a fork in her.

I can't say that I'm terribly put off by it either. She's loved by the base, but hated by the middle. She would have guaranteed Obama's next term.

385 jorline  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:45:29pm

re: #363 jones

This is getting odder. She just signed with the Vikings as their QB.

Perhaps she needs to rethink the QB position...that was a monster punt she just got off.
/

386 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:45:32pm

Byron York on Fox just quoted some Republicans as saying, "Gee, I wish she had more than JUST one and a half years as Governor", when she was running for VP.

Reminds me of something I said about Barack Obama when he ran for the freaking Presidency.

387 ArmyWife  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:46:21pm

re: #374 jaunte

I've heard this rumor as well. Also understand this same family had issues with a woman who may have drown, and in more recent history, the murder of a neighbor while a teen and some sex charges for other family members.

388 MSM  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:46:21pm

re: #370 iceweasel

Not only that-- if the GOP wouldn't help one of its rising stars out with what is (by the standards of campaigns and fundraisers) a small amount of money-- what does that say about their commitment to work for her in 2012? Weird.

Yes, there's always a fear that it just might be contagious. It's not the money--it's the price.

389 gearhead  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:46:46pm

She could raise a lot of personal wealth thru public speaking and books. Could also raise a lot of political capital helping other campaign for 2010.

390 Buck  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:46:48pm

OT:

Iranian Sex Offender-Free Man in Winnipeg-Still a threat to girls-But Canadian Government won't Deport him to Iran.

Michael McPhelan of the Immigration and Refugee Board said he wasn't convinced Noedost will not reoffend. "I have concerns that you are dangerous to the public in Canada," McPhelan said via video conference from Vancouver to a Winnipeg courtroom.

"The way you have conducted yourself in Canada is despicable. You are a danger to girls under 18."

But McPhelan added, "The need to protect the Canadian public is outweighed by the risk you face in your country of origin."

What! For the record: NOTHING outweighs the need to protect the Canadian public.

Greg Glatz
[Link: blog.rocknrollpreacher.com...]

391 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:47:16pm

re: #375 Gus 802

Who cares what Daily Kos thinks.

why Killgore Troutski of course

392 pink freud  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:47:29pm

re: #375 Gus 802

Who cares what Daily Kos thinks.

Or Media Matters. David Brock. Niewert. Think Progress. Huffpo.

The list is long.

393 jaunte  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:47:33pm

re: #387 ArmyWife

Of course, none of that matters, it's just Chinatown Washington.

394 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:47:39pm

re: #355 _RememberTonyC

i held it against him when the "patron saint of islamofascism" allowed billy to go to libya. that was bullshit.

I'd forgotten that.

395 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:47:46pm

The left hated Sarah Palin because they thought she was incompetent and they feared she would impose her beliefs on them.

The right hates Obama because he has no experience, is surrounded by radical leftists, and promised he would destroy America and enact socialism.

Only one lived up to the expectations.

396 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:47:54pm

re: #341 Racer X

What is Biden dealing with?

What planet are you from? The press isn't going to treat Palin the same as Biden. VP is not an easy job, and the national media would be very tough on her.

397 Nevergiveup  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:47:56pm

re: #390 Buck

You guys are crazier up there than we are down here. G-D save us all.

398 ~Fianna  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:48:40pm

re: #321 MandyManners

I didn't hold Billy Carter against Jimmy nor have I held any politician's sibling's actions against the politician.

I wish more people were like that. Every campaign I've ever worked on, I've heard the most inane stuff from voters. Don't like their hair, their skin color, their spouse, who they worked for, their sister was mean to me in high school, so I'll never vote for one of that family, lived here too long, haven't lived here long enough, don't like their accent... It's actually really depressing to see how people make such an important decision.

I don't think I've ever voted a party line ticket. I vote for the person whom I think will do the best job. I even skip a race if I don't think I know enough about the candidates to make a good decision. Most people don't seem to do that.

399 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:48:49pm
400 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:48:50pm

re: #389 gearhead

She could raise a lot of personal wealth thru public speaking and books. Could also raise a lot of political capital helping other campaign for 2010.

she will be swimming in money if she wants...haha!....who's the joke on now?

401 Irish Rose  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:48:50pm

re: #384 JarHeadLifer

Loved by the base and hated by the middle?
I'm in the middle, and I think Ms. Palin is a helluva politician.

I refuse to demonize her because she happens to also be a woman of faith, like to many in the "center" seem willing to do.

402 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:49:09pm

re: #389 gearhead

She could raise a lot of personal wealth thru public speaking and books. Could also raise a lot of political capital helping other campaign for 2010.

Dude, she needs a political machine behind her, not a maverick-y path to the Presidency. How will kingmaking Republicans handle this spitfire? I think they'd rather have a milksop like Romney, whom they can control.

403 Conservative Moonbat  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:49:15pm

If she's quitting because she couldn't handle the media pressure, it doesn't reflect well on her ability to handle the pressure of leading the nation.

just sayin'

404 BigPapa  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:49:31pm

I agree with the substantial amount of respect for Palin. She's very personable and genuine, something lacking in politics overall. She's withstood the onslaught probably better than most. However, it's very risky if she really wants to run for Pres.

405 MandyManners  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:49:38pm

re: #377 Grand Poobah

How is releasing a parcel of information that could potentially hamper the GOP's efforts even more be a smart move?

It really is a shame the GOP members can't behave itself properly. You'd think that politicians would only have to be concerned with getting reelected and would concern themselves only with thus. (I'm not referencing Palin, whom I quite like. I'm referring to the governor who deserted his post a few weeks back.)

Democrats seem to play that game a lot better than the GOP. The amount of susceptible idiots wired straight into the mainstream media doesn't help their case much either.

It's the timing of the news cycle. This is a holiday weekend.

406 FrogMarch  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:50:16pm

G.R. says :
I don’t know if it has anything to do with her decision, but she’s been subjected — along with her family — to more abuse than any other non-national-officeholder I can think of.


wow - a leftist who isn't a jerk?

407 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:50:25pm

re: #285 ArmyWife

There a thought. Here's another. She wrestles Michael Steele from the head of the RNC, and gets our party back on track, making 2010 a blood bath for Dems, and 2012 a REAL landslide with a yet to be discovered Reaganesque candidate.

/ok, a fantasy more than a thought. But it would be cool wouldn't it?


If there is no big scandal, I think you have a good point. Keeps her in the spot light, she has proved not to be afraid to go after her own party, and if she makes 2010 a bloodbath (PLEASE!) she would be right on top for 2012. She will have to fight Romney for it, though. The Republicans have a pecking order. Unfortunately.

408 Gus 802  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:50:41pm

re: #391 albusteve

why Killgore Troutski of course

... and using the word "Koskidz" seems to also have an endearing tone. Yuck.

409 EmmmieG  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:50:41pm

re: #402 vbspurs

Dude, she needs a political machine behind her, not a maverick-y path to the Presidency. How will kingmaking Republicans handle this spitfire? I think they'd rather have a milksop like Romney, whom they can control.

If they could control Romney, he would have changed religions, since his LDS faith is his greatest liability, outside of Utah and Southern Idaho.

410 Adrenalyn  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:50:51pm

if only the democrats could defend their country as vigorously as they defend their party

if only the republicans would defend themselves

411 _RememberTonyC  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:51:07pm

so the DNC spokesperson kicked her on the way out ...

what a motherfucking asshole

412 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:51:11pm

re: #396 Killgore Trout

What planet are you from? The press isn't going to treat Palin the same as Biden. VP is not an easy job, and the national media would be very tough on her.

ha!...Joe is sure working his ass off isn't he?....it's as easy as the POTUS makes it...speculating what the MSM might do is irrelevent

413 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:51:30pm

re: #396 Killgore Trout

What planet are you from? The press isn't going to treat Palin the same as Biden. VP is not an easy job, and the national media would be very tough on her.

Egg-fucking-exactly!

Mother fuckers!

414 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:51:32pm

re: #404 BigPapa

I agree with the substantial amount of respect for Palin. She's very personable and genuine, something lacking in politics overall. She's withstood the onslaught probably better than most. However, it's very risky if she really wants to run for Pres.

This could be written in stone, as the perfect commentary on Sarah Palin.

415 albusteve  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:52:07pm

re: #399 buzzsawmonkey

From their caption to the video: "In a disaster that will rank with Richard Nixon’s infamous, "think what you’ll be missing, you won’t have Nixon to kick around, anymore," Governor Kooky resigned from office..."

"A disaster?" Nixon became President after he made that speech.

that's history dood....move along

416 bulwrk  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:52:16pm

re: #324 Killgore Trout

It also indicates that she was not capable of being in the White House as VP. The pressure and scrutiny she's undergoing is nothing compared to what she'd be dealing with if she was VP.

Come on Killgore it proves no such thing.I believe the White House provides a far different level of cover than the State House of Alaska.

417 jaunte  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:52:31pm

re: #406 FrogMarch

G.R. says :
I don’t know if it has anything to do with her decision, but she’s been subjected — along with her family — to more abuse than any other non-national-officeholder I can think of.

wow - a leftist who isn't a jerk?

Good link, I hope some more people read and absorb it:

The commonplace claim that Sarah Palin is some kind of godbag warrior who rails against premarital sex is simply false.

Bristol Palin, bless her heart, does seem to have decided after a few months of motherhood that abstinence is definitely the best policy. That isn’t hypocrisy, either; it’s obviously a response to her own experience.

Stop lying. Just stop it.

418 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:52:51pm

Wow. Huckabee on Fox sounds like he's on cloud nine. Says it all.

419 MSM  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:52:53pm

re: #402 vbspurs

Dude, she needs a political machine behind her, not a maverick-y path to the Presidency. How will kingmaking Republicans handle this spitfire? I think they'd rather have a milksop like Romney, whom they can control.

Yes, that old milksop Romney. It is important to repeat this point often--that despite his so-called experience at running a state, several successful businesses, and even the Olympics, he was only doing the bidding of unseen forces. A puppet, really.

420 JarHeadLifer  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:53:21pm

re: #401 Irish Rose

Loved by the base and hated by the middle?
I'm in the middle, and I think Ms. Palin is a helluva politician.

I refuse to demonize her because she happens to also be a woman of faith, like to many in the "center" seem willing to do.

You are in the minority of the middle, at least according to the polls that I've seen. And, It wasn't Palin's strong faith or her unabashed pro-life position that put me off. It was her inability to manage interviews effectively with the likes of lightweights like Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric.

And, if you can't debate and destroy practically retarded Joe Biden, then you've got some problems grasping issues and articulating policy positions in a compelling and engaging way.

421 Catttt  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:53:29pm

Here is a link to Media Lizzy's blog, in case you want to support her or follow her. She's a beautiful, conservative blogger on politics who happened to be excluded from the Playboy hit list (Gov. Palin was included in that list).

If you are on Twitter, follow her at MediaLizzy.

422 katemaclaren  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:53:31pm

re: #347 pink freud

Hard cold non-emotional analysis there. Agreed.

I do not agree. Like not predicting this event, we can't predict 2012. There may be another reason--a tragedy--that she thinks is no one's business.
Maybe she's pregnant!
Maybe she has breast cancer.
Maybe her husband is sick and tired of the money drain--perhaps this has affected his family business.
I, for one, appreciate her candor and her genuine emotion. Reading those e-mails (McCain campaign) I can see how she should have been the candidate and NOT McCain. Additionally, if anyone brings up "lack of international affairs experience" I will laugh out loud--like we have some now who had the experience or knew one gd thing about international relations.

423 lobo91  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:53:35pm

re: #392 pink freud

Or Media Matters. David Brock. Niewert. Think Progress. Huffpo.

The list is long.

Funnly how most of it leads back to George Soros, too...

424 ArmyWife  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:53:48pm

re: #399 buzzsawmonkey

The stupid is sometimes so strong there, no?

425 Racer X  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:54:00pm

Now I know why Sarah threw in the towel.

Fuckers just beat her down until she could take no more. Bastards.

426 brookly red  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:54:04pm

/Could the timing of this have anything to do with O's up-coming meeting with Putin... may Biden leaked it to her that we are giving Alaska back?

427 vbspurs  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:54:08pm

re: #409 EmmmieG

If they could control Romney, he would have changed religions, since his LDS faith is his greatest liability, outside of Utah and Southern Idaho.

You know, I don't get that LDS thing people have against him. I just don't think Americans could care less about a person's religion. I think that died in 1960.

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