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Overnight Open Thread

Open | Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 11:22:19 pm PDT

How are we to survive? Solemnity is not the answer, any more than witless and irresponsible frivolity is. I think our best chance lies in humor, which in this case means a wry acceptance of our predicament. We don’t have to like it but we can at least recognize its ridiculous aspects, one of which is ourselves.

Ogden Nash

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1 laZardo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:24:18pm

Happy Pre-1962 Philippine Independence Day!

/take that, Americans. q;

2 mrshankly01  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:26:59pm

woohoo. Happy 4th of July all...

3 Floral Giraffe  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:27:40pm

Happy Independance day to all the USA lizards!
May you Independance be strong.
And have good Fu!

4 laZardo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:28:13pm

re: #1 laZardo

PIMF, meant pre-1964.

The United States recognized Philippine independence on July 4, 1946 in the Treaty of Manila.[1] July 4 was observed in the Philippines as Independence Day until August 4, 1964 when, upon the advice of historians and the urging of nationalists, President Diosdado Macapagal signed into law Republic Act No. 4166 designating June 12 as the country's Independence Day.[2] June 12 had previously been observed as Flag Day.

5 Bobibutu  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:28:20pm

Ogden Nash was a genius.

Happy Birthday to the USA and a shout out to all you former and current
warriors who help(ed) make sure this party continues! Thank you.
-- Bobi

6 Steffan  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:29:19pm

Tomorrow is also National Country Music Day.

It's also Tom-Sawyer-Fence-Painting Day.

It gets better, Monday is National Fried Chicken Day.

7 mrshankly01  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:29:25pm

love the overnight open

8 mrshankly01  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:30:24pm

so much excitement...

9 Silvergirl  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:31:16pm

re: #1 laZardo

Happy Pre-1962 Philippine Independence Day!

/take that, Americans. q;

You mean post instead of pre? Wasn't that last month, in June? Or pre if you mean for 2010. You're confusing me. :-)

Independence from Spain or the US? Or both?

10 gmsc  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:31:19pm

Open thread - so it's time to pick up our list of the 100 greatest 20th-century music videos. Last night we did 100 to 91, so tonight, we're doing 90 to 81!

Only 3 of tonight's 10 videos can't be embedded, but they rock so hard, you'll hear them through the link! Our first 2 links will get 2 of the 3 unembeddable music videos out of the way right off, so let's start!

#90 is Lenny Kravitz' "Are You Gonna Go My Way"!

11 gmsc  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:32:15pm

re: #10 gmsc

Open thread - so it's time to pick up our list of the 100 greatest 20th-century music videos. Last night we did 100 to 91, so tonight, we're doing 90 to 81!

Only 3 of tonight's 10 videos can't be embedded, but they rock so hard, you'll hear them through the link! Our first 2 links will get 2 of the 3 unembeddable music videos out of the way right off, so let's start!

#90 is Lenny Kravitz' "Are You Gonna Go My Way"!

Hmmm. . . I just discovered it IS embeddable:

12 Silvergirl  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:32:43pm

re: #4 laZardo

PIMF, meant pre-1964.

I hadn't read this when I posted my reply.

13 mrshankly01  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:32:56pm

re: #10 gmsc

ahh...if I could only love myself as much as lenny loved himself.

14 laZardo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:34:42pm

re: #12 Silvergirl

Yeah, that. q;

15 gmsc  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:34:44pm

re: #13 mrshankly01

ahh...if I could only love myself as much as lenny loved himself.

I'm guessing I'm missing something here, as I know little about Lenny Kravitz's life.

16 Floral Giraffe  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:35:56pm

re: #10 gmsc

And a VERY Happy Independacne day to you!

17 gmsc  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:36:36pm

#89 is by They Might Be Giants. No, it's not "Istanbul".

It's Don't Let's Start!

18 Floral Giraffe  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:37:01pm

re: #16 Floral Giraffe

Preview WOULD have been my friend.
I spell better than that, mostly....

19 laZardo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:37:11pm

re: #16 Floral Giraffe

And a VERY Happy Independacne day to you!

Truly a great day for any late-teen/young adult.

20 gmsc  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:37:23pm

re: #16 Floral Giraffe

And a VERY Happy Independacne day to you!

Thank you, FG!

Happy 4th of July to all American lizards.

And to those countries that don't have a 4th of July, just what happens between July 3rd and July 5th?
;)

21 laZardo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:38:53pm

re: #20 gmsc

Philippine-American Friendship Day.

/taking up the space vacated by Independence Day here after it moved, see #4.

22 Floral Giraffe  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:39:24pm

And the rockets red glare,
Came on bursting mid air,
And proof through the night,
that our flag was till there!

Oooh, say can you see
that star spangled flag,
O'er the land of the free
And the home of the brave!

Celebrate!

23 Floral Giraffe  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:40:01pm

re: #19 laZardo

Spelling, is teh hard!
PIMF.

24 Silvergirl  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:40:35pm

re: #17 gmsc

#89 is by They Might Be Giants. No, it's not "Istanbul".

It's Don't Let's Start!

This one is weird in an endearing sort of way.

The other one (Kravitz) was merely annoying.

25 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:41:14pm

Crosby, Stills & Young should have let him write more lyrics.

26 gmsc  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:41:50pm

At 88, we'll slow things down a bit, with Janet Jackson's "Love Will Never Do Without You":

27 Bobibutu  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:42:14pm

re: #25 Noam Sayin'

Crosby, Stills & Young should have let him write more lyrics.

And Nash?

28 gmsc  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:42:35pm

re: #27 Bobibutu

And Nash?

Ogden Nash was a genius . . .
;)

29 Silvergirl  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:42:48pm

re: #22 Floral Giraffe

And the rockets red glare,
Came on bursting mid air,
And proof through the night,
that our flag was till there!

Oooh, say can you see
that star spangled flag,
O'er the land of the free
And the home of the brave!

Celebrate!

Are you making these words up as you go, Floral? At least you sound like you're having a good time!

30 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:43:05pm

I have bottle rockets.

And firecrackers.

And I'm not supposed to.

31 Bobibutu  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:43:31pm

re: #28 gmsc

Ogden Nash was a genius . . .
;)

I surrender!

32 capitalist piglet  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:43:37pm

re: #15 gmsc

I'm guessing I'm missing something here, as I know little about Lenny Kravitz's life.

His mother was Roxy Roker, who played Helen Willis on The Jeffersons, and his father was NBC producer Sy Kravitz.

And, Lenny is hot. : )

(I've seen him twice. I love the guy.)

33 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:43:51pm

re: #27 Bobibutu

And Nash?

Swing and a miss, I guess.

Is this thing on?

34 Silvergirl  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:44:03pm

re: #26 gmsc

At 88, we'll slow things down a bit, with Janet Jackson's "Love Will Never Do Without You":


[Video]

I'm sorry, but I'm skipping this on the grounds of Jackson overload.

35 gmsc  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:45:01pm

re: #34 Silvergirl

I'm sorry, but I'm skipping this on the grounds of Jackson overload.

Don't worry, you're safe from the rest of tonight's list.

36 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:45:07pm

re: #32 capitalist piglet

Roxy was a hottie in her day, too.

37 Silvergirl  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:45:51pm

re: #32 capitalist piglet

His mother was Roxy Roker, who played Helen Willis on The Jeffersons, and his father was NBC producer Sy Kravitz.

And, Lenny is hot. : )

(I've seen him twice. I love the guy.)

Sorry I'm not appreciative of your guy, but I loved your comment today--the top comment!

38 laZardo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:46:32pm

re: #11 gmsc

Recap plz? :3

39 gmsc  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:46:45pm

Janet Jackson too slow? Well, we'll just have to pick things back up with The Prodigy's Firestarter at #87:

40 Bobibutu  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:47:15pm

[Link: www.myvideo.de...]

Ah - whatever.

41 laZardo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:47:53pm

re: #34 Silvergirl

I agree, all this Jackson makes me wanna...

42 Silvergirl  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:48:01pm

re: #21 laZardo

Philippine-American Friendship Day.

/taking up the space vacated by Independence Day here after it moved, see #4.

Well then happy PAFD, friend.

43 Silvergirl  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:48:41pm

re: #41 laZardo

I agree, all this Jackson makes me wanna...


You made me look! Got me!

44 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:49:23pm

re: #39 gmsc

Janet Jackson too slow? Well, we'll just have to pick things back up with The Prodigy's Firestarter at #87:


[Video]

where did you find all these losers, and who decided they were the top 100?

45 laZardo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:50:05pm

re: #42 Silvergirl

It's always that day whenever I log on and chat here. LOL. q;

46 Floral Giraffe  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:50:19pm

re: #29 Silvergirl

Heh, I was into the spirit of the moment. I agree, accuracy would have been better!

Happy Independence Day, to all in the USA!

47 Silvergirl  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:50:53pm

re: #30 Noam Sayin'

I have bottle rockets.

And firecrackers.

And I'm not supposed to.

I'm telling.

48 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:51:03pm

two rats for sure tonight, and one possible*.

/and it's still fairly early.


(*unfortunately, none of them were reporters.%-)

49 gmsc  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:51:44pm

re: #38 laZardo

Recap plz? :3

You can catch them on last night's overnight thread. Here's the list from 100 to 91:

100 - Green Day, Basket Case
99 - DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, Parents Just Don't Understand
98 - REM, Everybody Hurts
97 - Human League, Don't You Want Me
96 - The Replacements, Bastards of Young
95 - George Michael, Faith
94 - Wyclef Jean, Gone 'Til November
93 - U2, Sunday Bloody Sunday
92 - LL Cool J, Going Back to Cali
91 - Prince and the Revolution, 1999

50 Floral Giraffe  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:52:09pm

And, in the spirit of bad typing, I will sign of, with yet another wish for a happy independence day to all! ( Particularly those that are not free!)

51 redc1c4  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:53:21pm

re: #49 gmsc

'best' is evidently being defined as 'popular'..... that's not the same thing.

52 laZardo  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:53:28pm

re: #49 gmsc

You can catch them on last night's overnight thread. Here's the list from 100 to 91:

100 - Green Day, Basket Case
99 - DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, Parents Just Don't Understand
98 - REM, Everybody Hurts
97 - Human League, Don't You Want Me
96 - The Replacements, Bastards of Young
95 - George Michael, Faith
94 - Wyclef Jean, Gone 'Til November
93 - U2, Sunday Bloody Sunday
92 - LL Cool J, Going Back to Cali
91 - Prince and the Revolution, 1999

I think I've spoiled #1 in my mind already. :D

53 gmsc  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:54:39pm

At #86, Billy Idol's "Rock the Cradle of Love":

54 Bobibutu  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:55:18pm

Listening to these and the Stones and 3 Dog Night etc. - with headphones on - sailing in the Flores Sea (Indonesia) back in the 70s - stoned - at that time I thot it didn't get any better.

55 gmsc  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:55:44pm

re: #44 redc1c4

where did you find all these losers

If they weren't somewhat losers, they would be closer to the top of the 100 list, rather than the bottom now, wouldn't they?

56 gmsc  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:56:19pm

re: #51 redc1c4

'best' is evidently being defined as 'popular'..... that's not the same thing.

Hey - I started from 100, and am going up to 1, so they'll get better.

57 mrshankly01  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:56:26pm

re: #15 gmsc

he always came across as very self assured.

58 gmsc  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:57:27pm

After today's history lesson, I'll get back to the list.

59 TheMatrix31  Fri, Jul 3, 2009 11:58:32pm

God Bless America

60 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:00:00am

Today in History, July 4th:
Click here for History Channel's July 4th video.

Highlights of this day in history: The United States of America declares independence from Britain. Thomas Jefferson and John Adams died. Lou Gehrig bids farewell to his fans at Yankee Stadium.

Other notable July 4th events include:

1802 – At West Point, New York the United States Military Academy opens.

1803 – The Louisiana Purchase is announced to the American people.

1817 – At Rome, New York, United States, construction on the Erie Canal begins.

1827 – Slavery is abolished in New York State.

1862 – Lewis Carroll tells Alice Liddell a story that would grow into Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and its sequels.

1865 – Alice's Adventures in Wonderland is published.

1886 – The people of France offer the Statue of Liberty to the people of the United States.

1947 – The "Indian Independence Bill" is presented before British House of Commons, suggesting bifurcation of British India into two sovereign countries – India and Pakistan.

1959 – With the admission of Alaska as the 49th U.S. state earlier in the year, the 49-star flag of the United States debuts in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

1960 – Due to the post-Independence Day admission of Hawaiˈi as the 50th U.S. state on August 21, 1959, the 50-star flag of the United States debuts in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania almost ten and a half months later (see Flag Act).

61 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:00:42am

re: #39 gmsc

Janet Jackson too slow? Well, we'll just have to pick things back up with The Prodigy's Firestarter at #87:


A 4th of July celebration gone horribly wrong.

62 Floral Giraffe  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:02:26am

Interesting. Do you judge starting at 100 points & going down, or starting at 0 and going up?
And, the best breakup song?

63 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:02:29am
64 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:03:06am

re: #61 Silvergirl

A 4th of July celebration gone horribly wrong.

Perhaps a little Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, coming in at #85 with "Don't Come Around Here No More", would make it better?

65 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:03:46am

re: #64 gmsc

great song

66 Bobibutu  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:03:58am

re: #63 redc1c4

Independence Day

How appropriate for today.

67 nnorb  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:04:28am

Hi Folks,
Been a long time since I have been over here. Happy 4th to you all.
Norb

68 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:04:56am

re: #62 Floral Giraffe

Interesting. Do you judge starting at 100 points & going down, or starting at 0 and going up?
And, the best breakup song?

[Video]

I don't judge - I'm cheating and using VH1's "Best Videos of All Time". Now the list I'm using was put together in 1999, so I'm calling it the Best Videos of the 20th century.

69 Bobibutu  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:05:05am

re: #67 nnorb

And to you.

70 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:05:35am

re: #65 mrshankly01

great song

That was the first one that got me interested in Tom Petty's music. I don't have many music video DVDs, but I do have Tom Petty's collection.

71 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:06:36am

re: #63 redc1c4

FIRE THE "LASER!"

72 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:07:04am

#84? Method Man Feat. Mary J. Blige - "I'll Be There For You / You're All I Need":

73 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:07:12am

re: #60 gmsc

Noteworthy events, to be sure!

I liked the one about the 50 star flag (the one for AK) debuting on the 4th.

74 Sloppy  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:07:49am

I'm with Mencken. A horselaugh is worth a thousand syllogisms.

75 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:07:49am

re: #62 Floral Giraffe

Interesting. Do you judge starting at 100 points & going down, or starting at 0 and going up?
And, the best breakup song?

i can't find H-A-T-R-E-D, but this will blow off Billy any day....

76 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:09:03am

re: #73 Silvergirl

Noteworthy events, to be sure!

I liked the one about the 50 star flag (the one for AK) debuting on the 4th.

Don't you mean either the 49-star flag for Alaska, or the 50-star flag for Hawaii?

Hawaii was the 50th state. Why do think they called that TV series "Hawaii Five-O"?

77 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:10:03am

re: #64 gmsc

Perhaps a little Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, coming in at #85 with "Don't Come Around Here No More", would make it better?

Absolutely!

And an extra bonus is

1862 – Lewis Carroll tells Alice Liddell a story that would grow into Alice's Adventures in Wonderland and its sequels.

1865 – Alice's Adventures in Wonderland is published.

Isn't that a coincidence?

78 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:10:21am

#83 has made appearances on LGF before, but it's time to bring it back.

Godley and Creme's "Cry":

79 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:10:22am
80 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:10:35am

re: #77 Silvergirl

Isn't that a coincidence?

I didn't think about that, but you're right!

81 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:12:15am

re: #76 gmsc

Don't you mean either the 49-star flag for Alaska, or the 50-star flag for Hawaii?

Hawaii was the 50th state. Why do think they called that TV series "Hawaii Five-O"?

Oops! Yep. I was reading the wrong line of the post and the one about HI and AK got switched. I was concentrating on AK in light of today's (or yesterday's) news.

82 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:12:28am
83 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:13:19am

re: #81 Silvergirl

Oops! Yep. I was reading the wrong line of the post and the one about HI and AK got switched. I was concentrating on AK in light of today's (or yesterday's) news.

the new guy's comments

84 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:14:16am

re: #78 gmsc

#83 has made appearances on LGF before, but it's time to bring it back.

Godley and Creme's "Cry":

The visual is far more impressive than the sound.

85 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:14:58am

re: #83 redc1c4

the new guy's comments

I'm not on facebook.

86 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:15:41am

Our last two videos of the evening will rock us into our July 4th celebration!

#82 is "Pour Some Sugar on Me", by Def Leppard:

87 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:15:57am

re: #85 Silvergirl

The link from the...link

88 pat  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:16:13am

You all have a Happy Fourth. I will be at beach, with beef ribs, pork ribs, La. Chicken and Apple Sausage, Beef teriyaki, Beans and Ham Hocks , white rice, Cole slaw, Potato-Crab salad, garlic bread, shrimp, and a hot BBQ all day. I think I will have a cold beer also.

89 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:16:40am

And now for some gratuitous New Wave.

90 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:17:42am

re: #76 gmsc
re: #67 nnorb

Happy 4th back at ya.

91 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:18:01am

re: #90 mrshankly01

gmsc, disregard

92 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:18:02am

re: #84 Silvergirl

The visual is far more impressive than the sound.

Godley & Creme were always noted for their impressive music video visuals.

Ever seen Herbie Hancock's "Rockit", Wang Chung's "Everybody Have Fun Tonight" or Huey Lewis' "Hip to Be Square"? They were all directed by Godley & Creme!

93 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:19:11am

re: #90 mrshankly01

re: #67 nnorb

Happy 4th back at ya.

re: #91 mrshankly01

gmsc, disregard

You don't wish me a happy July 4th?

94 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:19:42am

re: #93 gmsc

well, of course I do...i just double clicked and hadn't realized it.

95 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:20:11am

re: #94 mrshankly01

well, of course I do...i just double clicked and hadn't realized it.

I know . . .I was just kidding.

Happy 4th to you, as well!

96 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:21:10am

re: #85 Silvergirl

I'm not on facebook.

my bad.............. laZardo FTFY!

97 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:22:25am

re: #87 laZardo

The link from the...link

Thanks for that! It goes long with this idea

. . . by resigning now, Palin installs Sean Parnell as an incumbent before the 2010 primary.

Parnell will have a much clearer shot at keeping the office in Palinite hands for another four (or possibly eight) years. Sarah Palin did not give up on her reforms today - she institutionalized them, Now, they will not leave office with her, but rather continue under Gov. Parnell.


98 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:23:09am

In last night's thread, axegrinder requested some Twisted Sister.

Good news, axe - #81 is "We're Not Gonna Take It"!

(You can pretty much ignore the first 11 seconds of this video)

99 StudSupreme  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:23:59am

Dear Lizards,
I hope you will indulge me and allow me to say the following:

Oh, say can you see by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars thru the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
Oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

[Link: www.duluthaviationinstitute.org...]

Happy Independence Day, everyone! :-)

100 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:24:09am

re: #92 gmsc

Godley & Creme were always noted for their impressive music video visuals.

Ever seen Herbie Hancock's "Rockit", Wang Chung's "Everybody Have Fun Tonight" or Huey Lewis' "Hip to Be Square"? They were all directed by Godley & Creme!

I bet I've seen one or two. Do you have the best of the lot at your fingertips now?

101 shiplord kirel  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:24:21am

Incredible:

Incoming IAEA chief: No evidence Iran seeking nuclear weapons

The incoming head of the United Nation's nuclear watchdog said on Friday he did not see any hard evidence that Iran was trying to gain the ability to develop nuclear weapons.

"I don't see any evidence in IAEA official documents about this," Japan's Yukiya Amano told Reuters in his first direct comment on Iran's nuclear program since his election to head the International Atomic Energy Agency, when asked whether he believed Iran was seeking a nuclear weapons capability.

Current IAEA head Mohammed ElBaradei told the BBC last month it was his "gut feeling" that Iran was seeking the ability to produce nuclear arms, if it desired, as an "insurance policy" against perceived threats from neighboring countries or the United States.
Advertisement

"I'm not going to be a 'soft' director general or a 'tough' director general," Amano told Reuters, when asked how he would approach issues like Iran and Syria, which are both subject to IAEA probes.

Earlier Friday, IAEA members unanimously designated Amano as the organization's next director general, ending a rift between developing and industrialized countries over his nomination.

With the official confirmation of his election on Thursday, the Japanese diplomat is now set to assume his post in December, succeeding Mohammed ElBaradei, who retires as director general after 12 years in office.

Amano, Japan's ambassador to the United Nations in Vienna, narrowly won a run-off vote against South African diplomat Abdul Samad Minty.

Developing countries backing Minty had for several months blocked Amano's election.

But on Friday, developing countries grouped in the Non-Aligned Movement and the Group of 77 issued statements expressing their support for Amano, 62, who is seen as closely aligned with the United States.

Minty congratulated Amano, and offered his country's support, saying that "our future objective is to assist in fostering a cooperative spirit and to focus on what unites us, namely; creating a better life for all free from the threat of the use of nuclear weapons."

Meanwhile, the Japanese government put high hopes in the next IAEA leader.

"We hope that Amano will tackle the nuclear issues in the areas of non-proliferation and disarmament," top government spokesman Takeo Kawamura said in Tokyo.

I wonder if he'll change his mind if Tel Aviv goes up in a fireball?
Blind, deaf, dumb, stupid and corrupt pandering like this needs to be recorded, because these people need to be held responsible when the worst happens.

102 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:24:48am

re: #100 Silvergirl

I bet I've seen one or two. Do you have the best of the lot at your fingertips now?

That depends on which one of them you consider to be the best of the lot.
;)

103 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:26:18am

re: #98 gmsc

who was the dad in the video?

104 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:27:07am

It's an overnight thread.........it needs some strange..........so for your latenight pleasure...........Two Mexican Midget Wrestlers Killed by Fake Prostitutes

/you're welcome

105 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:27:35am

re: #100 Silvergirl

I bet I've seen one or two. Do you have the best of the lot at your fingertips now?

Rockit

Everybody Have Fun Tonight

Hip To Be Square

106 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:27:47am

re: #97 Silvergirl

that's impossible: she's a moron! i saw her on TV every saturday night during the campaign and even read it on the Internet!

/white smoke

107 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:29:08am

re: #98 gmsc

man, i forgot how good twisted sister was...

108 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:29:48am

re: #103 mrshankly01

who was the dad in the video?

It's Mark Metcalf, better known as Animal House's Neidermayer.

109 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:29:51am

re: #104 IslandLibertarian

what

/ lol

110 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:30:19am

re: #108 gmsc

okay, i knew he looked familiar.

111 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:32:02am

re: #103 mrshankly01

who was the dad in the video?

He was fabulous. Compelling acting in a short scene.

112 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:32:03am

re: #104 IslandLibertarian

US gun policy caused these deaths...

113 lobo91  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:38:13am

re: #101 shiplord kirel

I wonder if he'll change his mind if Tel Aviv goes up in a fireball? Blind, deaf, dumb, stupid and corrupt pandering like this needs to be recorded, because these people need to be held responsible when the worst happens.

You must have forgotten a sarc tag.

A UN official being held responsible for something? What an amusing concept...

114 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:39:33am

Good news - my blog redesign project I've been working on for the past few weeks is finally complete!

All the sections of my blog now have a consistent look, and I can take a breather.

*PHEW*

115 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:42:09am

re: #114 gmsc

very nice looking site

116 shiplord kirel  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:42:43am

re: #113 lobo91

You must have forgotten a sarc tag.

A UN official being held responsible for something? What an amusing concept...

If Amano had been around in 1945:

“I see no evidence the Americans have an atomic bomb. The disaster in Hiroshima was caused by a gas leak. A big one. Yeah, that’s the ticket, a gas leak. And the flash was a secondary in a magnesium flare factory.”

117 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:44:33am

re: #116 shiplord kirel

If Amano had been around in 1945:

“I see no evidence the Americans have an atomic bomb. The disaster in Hiroshima was caused by a gas leak. A big one. Yeah, that’s the ticket, a gas leak. And the flash was a secondary in a magnesium flare factory.”

no. we would have been the ones on trial, not the people who started the war.

118 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:45:04am

re: #105 gmsc

Rockit

Everybody Have Fun Tonight

Hip To Be Square

As Johnny might say, "Weird wild stuff."

I could stand up to repeated viewings of the Huey Lewis one without going bonkers. This doesn't mean I don't respect the talent behind all three.

119 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:45:20am

re: #115 mrshankly01

very nice looking site

Thank you.
:)

I've actually been thinking of redesigning it since early 2008, but I didn't find a design I liked until early last month.

120 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:46:28am

re: #119 gmsc

i like the iphone games and the memory gym.

121 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:46:54am

tonight's count is now 3 confirmed.........

it's hard out there for a rat. %-)

122 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:47:16am

re: #118 Silvergirl

As Johnny might say, "Weird wild stuff."

I could stand up to repeated viewings of the Huey Lewis one without going bonkers. This doesn't mean I don't respect the talent behind all three.

When I was taking my mom to the pharmacy the other day, we walked in, and I immediately busted out laughing. She looked at me and said, "What's so funny?"

I replied, "Well, we're here at the pharmacy, and the song they're playing is 'I Want a New Drug'!"

123 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:49:06am

re: #121 redc1c4

vas is das?

124 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:51:01am

Happy Independence Day, Lizards!

As this is my favorite holiday, I will be handing out extra karma to all of you just because I'm American and I can.

God Bless the United States of America.

125 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:51:11am

re: #104 IslandLibertarian

It's an overnight thread.........it needs some strange..........so for your latenight pleasure...........Two Mexican Midget Wrestlers Killed by Fake Prostitutes

/you're welcome

The indignity of death by fake prostitutes. Where are the genuine prostitutes when a guy needs them?

It's hard to believe this story didn't knock that Palin and Michael Jackson stuff right off the front page. /

126 iceweasel  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:51:25am

re: #122 gmsc

When I was taking my mom to the pharmacy the other day, we walked in, and I immediately busted out laughing. She looked at me and said, "What's so funny?"

I replied, "Well, we're here at the pharmacy, and the song they're playing is 'I Want a New Drug'!"

Don't you know the trick?

In every song, replace the word 'drug" with "love", and vice versa,

Robert Palmer; Gonna have to face it you're addicted to drugs

Lewis: I Wanna New Love/ One that won't make me sick....

127 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:51:45am

re: #124 Sharmuta

Thanks. Happy 4th to you, too.

128 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:51:55am

re: #120 mrshankly01

i like the iphone games and the memory gym.

Thanks.

Up until today, the iphone games site never looked right on the iphone. You would log on, and the index appeared too small. About 15 minutes of work with Dashcode, and it now comes up correctly.

Now that the design is taken care of, I'm thinking of spicing up the memory tests (and possibly the lessons later on), by adding graphics and animation to them. Some of them, like the card memory lessons, would really be helped by this.

129 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:51:58am

re: #122 gmsc

When I was taking my mom to the pharmacy the other day, we walked in, and I immediately busted out laughing. She looked at me and said, "What's so funny?"

I replied, "Well, we're here at the pharmacy, and the song they're playing is 'I Want a New Drug'!"

Not all that subliminal, was it?

130 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:53:28am

re: #124 Sharmuta

Happy Independence Day, Lizards!

As this is my favorite holiday, I will be handing out extra karma to all of you just because I'm American and I can.

God Bless the United States of America.

Happy Indepedence Day!

BTW, as near as I can tell, Dot dropped by my keyboard today. Are you sending your ladybug to all the lizards' houses, or just mine?

131 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:54:11am

re: #129 Silvergirl

Not all that subliminal, was it?

Sometimes the direct approach is best.
;)

132 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:55:16am

re: #124 Sharmuta

Happy Independence Day, Lizards!

As this is my favorite holiday, I will be handing out extra karma to all of you just because I'm American and I can.

God Bless the United States of America.

Yay for extra karma. I've trick-or-treated for extra caramel on Halloween, but I've never had extra karma handed out gratis on Independence Day!

133 srb1976  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:56:18am

Evening/Morning folks....following along from work, so I can't keep up, really....but Happy Independence Day to everyone = )

134 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:58:21am

re: #133 srb1976

Evening/Morning folks....following along from work, so I can't keep up, really....but Happy Independence Day to everyone = )

Happy July 4th, srb!

I hope the little ones aren't scared by firecrackers!

135 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:59:50am

Fireworks
Schoolhouse Rock

136 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:59:52am

Gonna do some homework. Brb and happy Freedom Day.

137 srb1976  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 12:59:55am

re: #134 gmsc

Happy July 4th, srb!

I hope the little ones aren't scared by firecrackers!

My Little Man was, until last year...then coolness beat out scared, now he loves 'em (which scares me) = )

138 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:03:40am

No More Kings
Schoolhouse Rock

139 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:04:59am

re: #123 mrshankly01

vas is das?

the neighborhood has rats, of various varieties.

the four legged ones like to eat from the bird feeders in my yard.

this provides me with ongoing training opportunities to practice my BRM skills and other tactical proficiencies.

140 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:05:00am

re: #124 Sharmuta

Well, the fourth is now red, white and blue-ish..........

"and the rockets red glare, the bombs bursting in air, gave proof through the night that our flag was still there"

141 lobo91  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:07:56am

re: #134 gmsc

Happy July 4th, srb!

I hope the little ones aren't scared by firecrackers!

We came home from watching the fireworks after the SkySox game to find our Sheltie hiding in the basement. She apparently decided it was a bomb shelter, instead of a home theater.

142 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:08:33am

re: #134 gmsc

Happy July 4th, srb!

I hope the little ones aren't scared by firecrackers!

not supposed to have anything like that here in Lost Angels, although someone just shot off 10-12 skyrockets nearby, judging from the sound.

no sense calling anyone, they never come.

143 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:08:47am

re: #141 lobo91

We came home from watching the fireworks after the SkySox game to find our Sheltie hiding in the basement. She apparently decided it was a bomb shelter, instead of a home theater.

That's somewhat ironic, trying to hide from bombs in a movie theater!
;)

144 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:09:08am

re: #141 lobo91

We came home from watching the fireworks after the SkySox game to find our Sheltie hiding in the basement. She apparently decided it was a bomb shelter, instead of a home theater.

the noises aren't good for most animals, hunt trained dogs, etc, excepted.

145 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:14:26am

re: #139 redc1c4

awesome. you should try it with reflex fire.

146 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:14:41am

re: #134 gmsc

Happy July 4th, srb!

I hope the little ones aren't scared by firecrackers!

I hope the little ones and all the rest of us aren't scared by those six North Korean firecrackers.

147 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:17:04am

re: #128 gmsc

i am going to check out the iphone games the next time i am on my iphone. they are pretty cool on my MAC.

148 lobo91  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:17:06am

re: #143 gmsc

That's somewhat ironic, trying to hide from bombs in a movie theater!
;)

Now that you mention it, she never goes down there if we're watching a movie. Might have something to do with the 1300 watt sound system...

149 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:17:47am

re: #142 redc1c4

not supposed to have anything like that here in Lost Angels, although someone just shot off 10-12 skyrockets nearby, judging from the sound.

no sense calling anyone, they never come.

Maybe it was Noam Sayin, who has forbidden bottle rockets and firecrackers.

I told him I was gonna tell.

150 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:18:00am

re: #124 Sharmuta

Happy Independence Day, Lizards!

As this is my favorite holiday, I will be handing out extra karma to all of you just because I'm American and I can.

God Bless the United States of America.

Happy Independence Day :)

151 sngnsgt  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:18:04am

Redneck Rocket Launcher

[Link: www.blinkx.com...]

152 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:23:09am

re: #145 mrshankly01

awesome. you should try it with reflex fire.

hard to do..... i've gotten most of the dumb ones.

in fact, there are nights i don't see any at all... tonight's traffic is unusual, but it's clear and moonlight, and the weather has been decent.

besides, usually after i get one or two, they quit coming for the night. this must be a new bunch.

153 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:23:47am

re: #152 redc1c4

they might be celebrating the 4th

154 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:27:27am

re: #151 sngnsgt

Redneck Rocket Launcher

[Link: www.blinkx.com...]

HOLYSHIT Batman!

155 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:28:01am

re: #153 mrshankly01

they might be celebrating the 4th

some of them won;t be. %-)

156 Silvergirl  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:31:58am

Good-night, Irene.

And all the rest of you.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

157 ggt  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:32:17am

Hey Late Night Lizards!

What's up?

158 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:32:38am

re: #154 redc1c4

HOLYSHIT Batman!

re: #151 sngnsgt

Redneck Rocket Launcher

[Link: www.blinkx.com...]

Holy shit.

159 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:33:05am

re: #151 sngnsgt

Redneck Rocket Launcher

[Link: www.blinkx.com...]

"hold my beer, ok watch this........"
usually the last thing said before waking up in the hospital

160 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:33:19am

re: #150 TheMatrix31

Happy Independence Day :)

I'm still having page load issues, so the gift of karma may take a little while to be received. Hope you have a great Independence Day, Kiddo!

161 ggt  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:34:24am

re: #160 Sharmuta

I'm still having page load issues, so the gift of karma may take a little while to be received. Hope you have a great Independence Day, Kiddo!

Comcast? Still no problems on my end.

162 redc1c4  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:37:41am

well, since we're going to see John Fogerty at the Bowl tonight, and the rats have evidently decided to cut their losses, i guess i'll pop smoke and hit the rack..... undoubtedly HRH will have honeydo's in mind for the morning, instead of sleep.

hasta y'all.

L8r!

163 BatGuano  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:39:01am

Happy Independence Day, everyone!

164 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:39:15am

re: #159 IslandLibertarian

Famous Last Words:
Chief Warrant Officer: "Hey Sir, watch this..."
2nd Lieutenant: "Based on my experience..."
Platoon Sergeant: "The CO will never find out..."
Captain: "I'll drive..."

165 ggt  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:39:54am

How many of you feel this way?

166 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:40:19am

re: #160 Sharmuta

I'm still having page load issues, so the gift of karma may take a little while to be received. Hope you have a great Independence Day, Kiddo!

I'm having issues too :-/

167 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:43:03am

re: #163 BatGuano

Happy Independence Day, everyone!

Happy Independence Day, BatGuano!

168 BatGuano  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:46:34am

re: #167 gmsc

Thanks, gmsc!. It has been awhile since I've been up this late.

169 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:47:42am
170 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:53:16am

re: #168 BatGuano

Thanks, gmsc!. It has been awhile since I've been up this late.

Well, you're just in time, as 4th of July Fruitcup is almost here!

171 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:54:53am

Happy 4th of July!

172 BatGuano  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:55:07am

re: #169 mrshankly01

/I'm beginning to think those NORKS are up tuh no good.

173 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:55:07am

re: #161 ggt

I have moments where the page starts loading fine again. Then it goes back to dragging. Weird.

174 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:55:40am

Oh- and I turned off avatars for myself. That helped a little.

175 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:55:59am

re: #173 Sharmuta

Maybe you have your computer on intermittent

176 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:56:42am

re: #151 sngnsgt

Redneck Rocket Launcher

[Link: www.blinkx.com...]

Great, now I have to try that.

177 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:56:46am

re: #172 BatGuano

/we need more diplomacy and fast

178 BatGuano  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:57:01am

re: #171 quiet man

Happy 4th, fellow movie nic guy!

179 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:58:04am

re: #178 BatGuano
Hers hoping your fireworks are physical, mental, and sexual today

180 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:59:14am

back to bed...

nitol

181 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:59:37am

re: #177 mrshankly01

/we need more diplomacy and fast

this should work

ht instapundit

182 BatGuano  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 1:59:58am

re: #178 BatGuano

Perhaps we'll see Secretary of State Clinton dance with Kim Jong Il, soon.

183 littleoldlady  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:00:10am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

184 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:00:45am

re: #183 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

You've outdone yourself!

Happy Fruit of July!

185 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:00:54am

re: #183 littleoldlady

Thanks Littleoldlady. 4th of July Fruit cup. Extra special.

186 BatGuano  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:01:00am

Thank you, littleoldlady!

187 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:01:50am

re: #184 gmsc

re: #183 littleoldlady

there are 50 blueberries on it. awesome.

188 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:02:20am

re: #183 littleoldlady

Thanks, {lol}

The page load gods have smiled upon me, and have made my fruitcup quick and frustration free on this fine, glorious Birthday of our Nation. I hope you have a most wonderful Independence Day, littleoldlady.

189 littleoldlady  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:04:43am

re: #184 gmsc

gmsc! :-)

My mother-in-law (#2) (z"l) used to make that cake!

mrshankly! :-)

Are there 50?

/surprised I didn't eat them! ;-)

BatGuano! :-)

Sharmuta! :-)

190 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:05:12am

re: #184 gmsc

for some reason, gmsc, yourwebsite address get loaded into my website line whenever I post. strange. please don't think I am trying to steal your site.

191 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:07:02am

re: #160 Sharmuta

I'm still having page load issues, so the gift of karma may take a little while to be received. Hope you have a great Independence Day, Kiddo!

I'm having issues too :-/

re: #183 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------------->
Help yourselves!

Fourth of July Fruitcup!

192 mrshankly01  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:07:16am

night all, have a great 4th. must sleep.

193 littleoldlady  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:07:34am

Matrix! :-)

Bon appetit!

194 littleoldlady  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:08:28am

Oh boy. I can see what kind of day this is going to be...

;-)

195 BatGuano  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:09:11am

re: #192 mrshankly01

night all, have a great 4th. must sleep.

Goodnight, mrshankley.

196 littleoldlady  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:09:24am

'Night, mrshankly! :-)

197 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:13:53am

re: #183 littleoldlady

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......tasty fiber

Happy Fourth!
God Bless You All!
Aloha ke Akua!

goodnight............

198 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:15:17am

re: #190 mrshankly01

for some reason, gmsc, yourwebsite address get loaded into my website line whenever I post. strange. please don't think I am trying to steal your site.

That's interesting.

Get it fixed as soon as you can. But, hey, I can always use another link to my site!
;)

(Don't think that I snuck it in there.)

199 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:17:34am

re: #192 mrshankly01

night all, have a great 4th. must sleep.

Good night, Mr. Shankly.

200 littleoldlady  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:17:42am

re: #197 IslandLibertarian

IslandLibertarian! :-)

Very nice!

/perhaps a little too healthy for today's theme, though... ;-)

201 sngnsgt  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:20:44am

re: #176 Cannadian Club Akbar

Great, now I have to try that.

Looks like fun to me too, a little late this year, but maybe next year. ;-)

202 gmsc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:21:39am

Good night, all!

203 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:23:57am

re: #202 gmsc

Good night. Happy Independence Day!

204 littleoldlady  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:24:11am

'Night, gmsc! :-)

Enjoy your 4th! :-)

205 BatGuano  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:24:38am

re: #202 gmsc

Good night, all!

G'night, gmsc.

206 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:30:07am
207 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:35:19am

This is my favorite day of the year. Thank God I'm an American.

208 littleoldlady  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:37:22am

re: #206 TheMatrix31

WOW. Thanks for that, Matrix! I used to watch that show but I guess I lost interest before the final season.

Cool ending. :-)

209 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:39:40am
210 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:40:54am

re: #208 littleoldlady

WOW. Thanks for that, Matrix! I used to watch that show but I guess I lost interest before the final season.

Cool ending. :-)

It was so sad :( But such an awesome show.

I really wish I still lived in a small, suburban town.

211 BatGuano  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:41:39am

re: #206 TheMatrix31

Thanks Matrix. I watched the show regularly. The was my era being portrayed. :)

212 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:42:08am

I don't care if it's cheesy- I love that Lee Greenwood song.

213 BatGuano  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:43:37am

re: #209 Sharmuta

That song is exactly what I was thinking from your previous post. Thanks for posting this. (listening)

214 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:43:52am

About as opposite Lee Greenwood as you can get, here's Stuck Mojo

I'm American!

Crank it!

215 ggt  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:44:49am

weet dreams all!

216 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:45:38am

I had to go with Stuck Mojo for the nic link today.

217 littleoldlady  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:46:51am

re: #212 Sharmuta

Me too!

/I don't think it's cheesy!

I received this from GoDaddy.

Watched it at least 5 times already...

218 BatGuano  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:48:10am

re: #212 Sharmuta

I don't care if it's cheesy- I love that Lee Greenwood song.

Although patriotism has been out of fashion in some circles over the last 40 years, I don't think the song is cheesy.

219 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:51:32am

re: #217 littleoldlady

Oh, lol! Thank you for sharing that!

Out of all our American brothers and sisters around the world on this most Blessed of days- may our Troops in Afghanistan be safe and sound. God Bless them.

220 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 2:55:22am

Perhaps the greatest Blessing of my life was being born in this amazing country. I look around the world today- especially in Iran, and I'm so very thankful.

221 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:12:23am

Hard to give away karma when no one says anything....

222 littleoldlady  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:12:52am

I'm up to 7 watches now...

;-)

223 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:15:27am

re: #217 littleoldlady

Me too!

/I don't think it's cheesy!

I received this from GoDaddy.

Watched it at least 5 times already...

Awesome!

224 BatGuano  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:16:25am

re: #221 Sharmuta

I like pie. :)

225 littleoldlady  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:17:11am

re: #223 TheMatrix31

It's it wonderful? An email from an American company...unabashedly patriotic.

/plus not trying to sell me something! ;-)

226 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:19:40am

re: #225 littleoldlady

It's it wonderful? An email from an American company...unabashedly patriotic.

/plus not trying to sell me something! ;-)

So amazing. Believe it or not, that's partly why I love watching wrestling. The CEO/Owner of World Wrestling Entertainment, Vince McMahon, is such a proud and direct American, he has tributes constantly throughout the year. I love it.

They do a show IN Iraq in front of the troops every year during Christmas-time. They also provide free admission to any member of the miltary for their events.

So awesome.

227 BatGuano  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:20:17am

re: #225 littleoldlady

I've seen their commercials. I think they sell boobs.

228 soxfan4life  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:25:04am

re: #212 Sharmuta

I don't care if it's cheesy- I love that Lee Greenwood song.

When I was stationed in Korea the Command Sergeant Major made the NCO club play that song every night at closing time.

229 BatGuano  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:27:00am

Good night, all. God bless America.

230 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:28:58am

re: #229 BatGuano

Good night, all. God bless America.

Good night, dude!

231 soxfan4life  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:33:17am

I'll be playing some Toby Keith today.



Enjoy this Independence Day, given the new trend toward wanting government to fix all of our problems it may soon become Dependence Day.

232 Ateam  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:34:08am

Happy Independance day to all the USA folks!

233 Karridine  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:36:45am

From an ice-choked island on the Free side of the Korean DMZ, I dreamt of this day as a young soldier, honorably doing my duty in defense of the Free World's human rights...

So from this veteran's heart to all of yours, a Red-White-and-Blue

"Let Freedom Ring!"
234 soxfan4life  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:39:25am

re: #233 Karridine

Was Korea's winter the coldest you ever endured? I was raised in the northeast US and the winter I spent in Korea was the coldest I can remember.The only good thing about it was everything froze so you could tolerate the smell.

235 Karridine  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:41:17am

re: #234 soxfan4life

Sox, we had SNOW on the Fourth of July!

Truth... but that was on our mountain top north of KaPyong... Hwa-ak San... tallest accessible 'research' peak in North-east Asia...

Yeah, COLD, Brother...

236 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:43:07am

re: #231 soxfan4life

I'll be playing some Toby Keith today.


[Video]
Enjoy this Independence Day, given the new trend toward wanting government to fix all of our problems it may soon become Dependence Day.

LMAO.

237 Karridine  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:44:28am

Well, Friends, from the balmy, pre-sunset suburbs of Bangkok and quarter-to-six, I wish you a safe and sane Fourth of July!

BBIAW

238 soxfan4life  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:47:32am

re: #235 Karridine

Sox, we had SNOW on the Fourth of July!

Truth... but that was on our mountain top north of KaPyong... Hwa-ak San... tallest accessible 'research' peak in North-east Asia...

Yeah, COLD, Brother...

The cold winter and rain that seemed to be horizontal during monsoon season . We had to dig people out after a mudslide, had a NORK sub come ashore and had commando's running around the woods killing people.I couldn't rotate back to the US fast enough.

239 Karridine  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:48:56am

"Become a government care-giver
OR
a government caretaker!
Government don't care!"

240 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:50:03am

re: #238 soxfan4life

Have you read this? Great book about Korea.

The Coldest Winter

morning lizardia - happy 4th!

241 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:50:10am

re: #237 Karridine

Well, Friends, from the balmy, pre-sunset suburbs of Bangkok and quarter-to-six, I wish you a safe and sane Fourth of July!

BBIAW

Take it easy man

242 littleoldlady  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:51:55am

No rest for the weary... :-(

GOOD INDEPENDENCE DAY, ALL!™

243 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:52:46am

Good Morning LGF.
And a happy July 4 holiday to all youse American lizards from all us Canadian lizards - eh?

244 Ateam  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:55:10am

Vive le-Tour-de-France. Hail to the greatest rider ever - Lance Armstrong - come-back to the saddle.

245 soxfan4life  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:56:43am

re: #240 wahabicorridor

Have you read this? Great book about Korea.

The Coldest Winter

morning lizardia - happy 4th!

I haven't but will look to pick up a copy. One thing I learned that surprises many people is frostbite, hypothermia and freezing to death were the biggest casualties of the Korean War.

246 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 3:59:41am

re: #20 gmsc Rofl I wonder how many people didn't get it the first time around.

247 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:07:13am

That ugly little norko shtunk is making me il. re: #246 Rustler

Rofl I wonder how many people didn't get it the first time around.

Get what?

248 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:10:16am

re: #101 shiplord kirel
//Nope Tel Aviv goes up in a fireball it's the Jews fault they blew up a reactor intentionally to blame the Iranians.

249 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:14:00am

re: #139 redc1c4 The 2 legged flying ones leaving ya alone now then?

250 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:16:36am

re: #246 Rustler

Hey, you! Happy Independence Day!

251 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:17:44am

re: #164 mrshankly01
You forgot the one set of famous last words gauranteed to empty a bar of marines and Rangers.

Rustler: "This shit is gonna be good watch. Oh crap"

Never seen a building empty faster.

252 rightside  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:18:36am

Morning Lizards. Happy Independence Day!

253 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:19:56am

re: #250 Sharmuta

Morning Sharmie. Independance day is good have to work and miss the fire works but oh well.

//Any word yet on whether Obama's birthday will be henseforth known as Government dependance day.(have the sarc tag but its almost not needed since close to truth :P)

254 soxfan4life  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:22:12am

re: #253 Rustler

Morning Sharmie. Independance day is good have to work and miss the fire works but oh well.

//Any word yet on whether Obama's birthday will be henseforth known as Government dependance day.(have the sarc tag but its almost not needed since close to truth :P)


Everyone is going to get a card with the check in it.

255 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:26:28am

re: #234 soxfan4life You must have been up near the DMZ too? While I was up there was frigid. At night occasionally you could hear trees explode as the sap froze and expanded. However when I was fortunate enough to fly down to Pusan for a few days it was warmer than April on the DMZ.

256 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:28:45am

re: #247 Spare O'Lake
What do people do between july 3rd and 5th if they have no 4th of July. See everyone has one not everyone recognizes the holiday.

257 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:33:33am

Bah I broke the thread. Now The interweb can't show me things like this.

258 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:36:42am

Pakistani airstrikes kill at least 12 militants

Nice! Again- this will only help the Afghan surge.

259 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:39:37am

Good morning all!
I woke up to find an 'e-card" from Yma O Hyd this morning, a "Happy 4th of July" card! How sweet was that!

260 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:41:23am

re: #259 reine.de.tout

Morning Reine. Happy Independance day.

261 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:44:00am

re: #259 reine.de.tout

Happy Independence Day, Reine!

262 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:48:18am

OH- PULEEEEEEZZZZE!

Mrs. Obama bringing glamor to Moscow this weekend

Gag me. The woman has no "glamor".

263 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:48:33am

re: #258 Sharmuta Not all is good on that front tho. Thinking one of the 4 wounded may have since died as CNN just reported it as 3 deaths not 2. I wish Obama would understand the surge worked in Iraq because Al Qaeda wasn't well liked and the people being oppressed by them were more willing to point em out than those in the highlands who know and have family members in the Taliban. He's busy trying to fight the "unneccessary" last war in Iraq in Afganistan without understanding the differing conditions require different tactics a Surge is virtually impossible in the territory we are in now. Trying to hold onto everything is gonna lose us the war(against the taliban).

//But of course it will be Bush's fault because he should have used Obama's current stategy earlier instead of wasting time and resources in Iraq.

264 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:50:48am

/ I can hear a fireworks display from a mall some distance away and I was all like ;_;

265 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:51:12am

A bit of Ray for everyones happy 4th...

266 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:51:29am

re: #263 Rustler

No- recent polling in Pakistan shows the people have turned on them. 80% think the taliban are a threat. Let me find the link for you.

267 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:52:26am

re: #262 Sharmuta

Michelle Obama's fashion sense attracts comparisons with Jacqueline Kennedy, and there is a Web site entirely dedicated to what she wears.

Why the Fbomb does the Media insist on the Kennedy comparisons. Please lord don't let some whackjob try killing Obama and making the Comparison permanent poor jack must be maintaining about 3000rpm spinning in his grave now.

268 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:53:12am

re: #266 Sharmuta

No- recent polling in Pakistan shows the people have turned on them. 80% think the taliban are a threat. Let me find the link for you.

The "foreign" Taliban have fucked with them enough that the Pakistanis have lost their patience (Bhutto, Lahore cricket shootings, etc.). I think he means on the Taliban's home ground of Afghanistan.

270 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:56:04am

re: #266 Sharmuta If sentiment is changing now it will help but the terrain there still doesn't bode well for the type of ground offensive we are engaging in.

re: #268 laZardo

Yeah was more Afganistan I was thinking of but if sentiment is shifting in Pakistan maybe it bodes well for a shift thruout the region.

271 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:56:34am

Figures the 0bamas would be in Russia for Independence Day.

272 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 4:59:08am

re: #271 Sharmuta
The one couldn't do anything so mundane as visit the troops on Independance day. He of course sends the gaff machine both to show his administrations support for the troops(virtually nonexistant) and to raise moral by sending the Executive Jester to entertain them.

273 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:01:05am

re: #271 Sharmuta

Figures the 0bamas would be in Russia for Independence Day.

Heh...are they even going to make a statement or something?

274 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:02:56am

A beautiful morning in the greatest country...EVAH.
I am humbled by the greatness of this country.

People attempt to get here over shark-infested waters in leaky 1940-era bathtubs, leave everything behind to start a new life, risking everything they have or ever will for that one chance to live under Freedom.

I have no idea how the rest of the world lives. I was born here.
Fortunate enough that greater men than me put their lives and their families lives on the line so my family and I could live like they could not even dream of.

There are Americans ashamed of her. Who will apologize for her. What a sad, sorry way to go through life. Ashamed of the possibilities and opportunities given them so long ago which they take for granted with no reflection whatsoever of the courage it took to establish her, while reaping all the benefits of what it is to be an American.

Not me. Not ever. I love this country. And thank the men who protect me and mine while I go about my life .

I wish you all a wonderful Independence Day with your family and friends.

275 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:07:30am

re: #271 Sharmuta

Figures the 0bamas would be in Russia for Independence Day.

That is beyond sad.

276 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:08:39am

re: #274 SasquatchOnSteroids

Beautifully done *applauds*

People will risk not only their own lives to get here, but will bring their children along. How awful must a life me that people would put their own children under that sort of risk in their desperation to find a better life?

It boggles my mind.

We are fortunate indeed, and as you say, too many people enjoy the best that we have to offer, with no reflection on the courage and determination it took to create our country.

277 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:09:01am

re: #276 reine.de.tout

Beautifully done *applauds*

People will risk not only their own lives to get here, but will bring their children along. How awful must a life meBE that people would put their own children under that sort of risk in their desperation to find a better life?

It boggles my mind.

We are fortunate indeed, and as you say, too many people enjoy the best that we have to offer, with no reflection on the courage and determination it took to create our country.

278 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:11:15am

re: #276 reine.de.tout

Beautifully done *applauds*

People will risk not only their own lives to get here, but will bring their children along. How awful must a life me that people would put their own children under that sort of risk in their desperation to find a better life?

It boggles my mind.

We are fortunate indeed, and as you say, too many people enjoy the best that we have to offer, with no reflection on the courage and determination it took to create our country.

Same here. What would it take for us to do that ? Just glad and appreciative I don't have to have an answer for that.

279 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:13:15am

re: #278 SasquatchOnSteroids

President for life Obama but thats only step 1.

280 VioletTiger  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:13:39am

Good morning lizards! Happy Independence Day! Ever since I was very little, this was my second favorite holiday (after Christmas, of course). I grew up in a small town where the day started with baby parades, decorated bikes and floats and then a big parade. There were barbacues and then at night, games for the kids (peanut scamble!) and then fireworks. It always seemed like magic. Not many towns do that anymore.

Enjoy your day and God Bless the USA!

281 VioletTiger  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:15:20am

re: #275 SasquatchOnSteroids

That is beyond sad.

I have always scheduled my vacations so that I would be in the US for the 4th of July. I can't believe he leaves on his first July 4th as President. I wonder if he feels any appreciation for this country at all.

282 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:18:29am

re: #281 VioletTiger
It all stems from his belief that America is a bad country. You know he would rather spend his holiday in that remarkably free country with its record of outstanding Human rights standards.

283 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:20:30am

I can't imagine being anywhere on Independence Day except in America. Just no place I'd rather be than here- celebrating Liberty- and hoping that some day everyone, especially other women, around the world will be as free as I.

Enjoy Russia today, michelle and barry. Feh.

284 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:23:33am

re: #281 VioletTiger

I have always scheduled my vacations so that I would be in the US for the 4th of July. I can't believe he leaves on his first July 4th as President. I wonder if he feels any appreciation for this country at all.

America is bigger and stronger than Obama, no matter what the MSM wants us to believe.
He's not bringing me down today.

285 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:24:12am

Wow this one takes the cake. Have a set of guests that rented 2 rooms last night put their 87 year old grandfather alone. Now they are ready to leave he's still alseep with his door deadbolted with the security bar in place and they are upset I can't get them into the room because grandpa uses 2 hearing aids and has a resperatory condition and may have stopped breathing. I asked her wasn't anyone sleeping in the room with him and the Reply is "Why would we?" I feel bad that he has his condition and if he passed last night I will also feel bad but they put him alone in a room and he barricaded himself in so how is it my fault they can't get to him.

286 UncleRancher  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:24:46am
287 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:25:03am

If President Hopeandchange gets asked why the meeting in Russia had to be the weekend of the 4th, I hope he says that it was best for both the U.S. and Russia. Then I hope Putin says, " No, we could have done it next week."

288 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:26:11am

Well good news Their Grandfather is awake and getting into the shower now.

289 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:27:08am

re: #288 Rustler

Well good news Their Grandfather is awake and getting into the shower now.

Now that's a brow wiper. yeesh.

290 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:28:32am

re: #289 SasquatchOnSteroids
Yeah they were getting ready to demand I call 911 for their negligence. At least I consider it negligence on their part if he had known health conditions and they left him alone in the room.

291 VioletTiger  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:28:34am

re: #288 Rustler

Well good news Their Grandfather is awake and getting into the shower now.


What a bunch of losers to put him (and you) in that position.

292 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:29:25am

Hold on- seems barry and michelle are still in DC:

Obama to mark July 4, daughter's birthday Saturday

So- why the heck is another reporter saying this?

Mrs. Obama bringing glamor to Moscow this weekend

Michelle Obama brings her superstar glamor to Moscow this weekend as she accompanies her husband on his summit with the Russian president.

Another story confirms the 0bamas trip isn't this weekend:

[...]when Obama meets Medvedev for talks on Monday at the start of his July 6-8 visit to Moscow[...]

I guess michelle's "glamor" got in the way of fact checking.

293 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:29:48am

re: #290 Rustler

Yeah they were getting ready to demand I call 911 for their negligence. At least I consider it negligence on their part if he had known health conditions and they left him alone in the room.

Absolutely. Ijits.

294 3 wood  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:30:03am

Good morning.

Happy Independence Day, and thank you to all those who have served for our freedom.

295 Erik The Red  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:31:33am

Happy Independence Day America.

Good Morning Lizards. I have arrived safely after a 32 hour trip. I am looking forward to spending my first 4th of July on US soil in over 20 years.

296 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:31:34am

re: #292 Sharmuta
He's flying out Sunday night so leaving this weekend won't get to moscow til Monday tho and meeting will be then.

297 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:31:58am

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY, LIZARDS!

298 3 wood  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:32:38am

re: #292 Sharmuta

The media rarely lets the facts get in the way of a good story.

I have had reporters admit to me privately that frequently they are working on stories that are already 95% written by their editors, they are just being sent out by their editors to get a few specific quotes to make the story sound true.

299 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:32:40am

re: #292 Sharmuta

ahhh. OK, at least he's here. I take all I said back.

/not really

300 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:32:45am

Morning and happy firecracker day Erik and 2M.

301 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:32:47am

re: #295 Erik The Red

Happy Independence Day America.

Good Morning Lizards. I have arrived safely after a 32 hour trip. I am looking forward to spending my first 4th of July on US soil in over 20 years.

WELCOME HOME! Happy Independence Day!

302 rightside  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:32:56am

re: #294 3 wood

Morning 3wood, same to you.

303 rightside  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:33:11am

re: #295 Erik The Red

Welcome back Erik, same to you!

304 VioletTiger  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:33:15am

re: #295 Erik The Red

Happy Independence Day America.

Good Morning Lizards. I have arrived safely after a 32 hour trip. I am looking forward to spending my first 4th of July on US soil in over 20 years.

Welcome home!

305 rightside  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:33:45am

re: #297 MandyManners

Morning Mandy, Happy Independence day to you!

306 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:33:50am

re: #295 Erik The Red
Grats on making it back and Welcome to the country again. You got your field of view clear to watch the Disney display from home?

307 UncleRancher  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:34:33am

Happy Independence to all! Light some fireworks and celebrate this great country (while you still can). Most of my family is off traveling but the two young'ns will be with us in small town America. We pick the smallest town in the area and go have a parade and a picnic. It's great!

308 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:34:36am

Morning 3wood too and happy 4th to ya.

309 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:35:11am

re: #295 Erik The Red

Happy Independence Day America.

Good Morning Lizards. I have arrived safely after a 32 hour trip. I am looking forward to spending my first 4th of July on US soil in over 20 years.

Sweet !
32-hour trip. Wow.
I'd be a zombie.

310 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:35:43am

re: #292 Sharmuta

Hold on- seems barry and michelle are still in DC:

Obama to mark July 4, daughter's birthday Saturday

So- why the heck is another reporter saying this?


I guess michelle's "glamor" got in the way of fact checking.

Glamour? Dresses similar to drapery is glaomourous?

I wonder what Mrs. Putin looks like.

311 UncleRancher  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:35:47am

Welcome home, Erik }

312 UncleRancher  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:36:25am

re: #306 Rustler

Australia?

313 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:37:03am

re: #295 Erik The Red

Happy Independence Day America.

Good Morning Lizards. I have arrived safely after a 32 hour trip. I am looking forward to spending my first 4th of July on US soil in over 20 years.

Welcome home!

What are you gonna' do today?

314 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:37:04am

The Fourth of July. What does it mean nowadays?

Is it just an excuse to travel? Is it a family-oriented holiday? Is it a day to sit and relax? Is it a day to sit and relax with a beer in one hand and a hot dog in another?

The Fourth of July is all this and much more. Why? It is the day of our declaration of independence from England. The day we stood up to King George and his cronies and said “Shove it, we’re done with this.” The day we officially said “Enough is Enough.”

And so, on that day in 1776, a new nation was born. A nation where literally anything is possible. A nation that would be born out of the blood, sweat, and tears of the war to come. It was a fight for freedom, away from under the cruel oppression of the English. Out of this war, we revolutionized the world. Thirteen original colonies now turned into the United States of America, laying the foundation for the Constitution of the United States to be written and accepted just a few short years later. In that Constitution, our forefathers guaranteed those unalienable, God-given rights to us that were described in the Declaration; Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.

For centuries now, America has stood as the model. People suffering on other lands picked up everything, sacrificed everything, in hopes to come here and make a new beginning. They came here in search of something greater, and by the grace of God, so many have been able to reap the benefits of the freedoms and the opportunities that we are BLESSED to have. My family came to the United States in the late 1970s, and for this, I could not be more grateful to them. They left their families behind in hopes to create a better life for their children. They wanted to come and live the “American Dream”, and you know what? They’ve done it. They built themselves up despite not knowing anyone and barely knowing the language. They are the ultimate success story, and so many share this story. So many who do not have the privilege of living here also enjoy this dream, and if by some chance they are able to escape whatever region they want to leave from, they too have the same opportunities to make those dreams a reality.

You see, this is America. The sacrifices made by those before us have allowed us to live here and enjoy what we have every day. I look around and I see too many people take what they have for granted. We are the last bastion of freedom, and we must fight to preserve it. Our way of life can crumble just as it has been built up. The Fourth of July is a day to reflect on our country’s past, present, and future. We must remember our past, and remember where we came from, so that we do everything possible to preserve our blessings. Our country was born out of the will to be different than those that preceded us.

I personally could not imagine living anywhere else, because what I have here is unparalleled. The greatness of America is undeniable. Today IS a day to sit back and relax. Today IS a day to be with family. Today IS a day to celebrate all that we have, and all that those that came before us have done to afford us these privileges. Today is the day to recognize that other countries and peoples are often not as blessed as ours to enjoy what we are able to enjoy on a daily basis.

May God bless you and yours, and may God continue to bless the United States of America.

315 Erik The Red  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:37:09am

re: #306 Rustler

Grats on making it back and Welcome to the country again. You got your field of view clear to watch the Disney display from home?

In Tampa atm. Will be spending the afternoon/evening out on the water. Thanks for all the well wishes, once again.

Later Lizards. My day is starting in 15 minutes.

316 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:37:49am

re: #312 UncleRancher US Erik has lived in Sout Africa for the past 20 some odd years and recently returned. To the Orlando area I think?

317 Erik The Red  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:37:53am

re: #313 MandyManners

Welcome home!

What are you gonna' do today?

See #315 :)

318 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:37:56am

re: #310 MandyManners

Mrs Putin isn't the first lady of russia. Here is the first lady of russia though.

319 Erik The Red  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:39:23am

re: #312 UncleRancher

Australia?

South Africa. 26 years.

320 UncleRancher  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:39:44am

re: #316 Rustler

US Erik has lived in Sout Africa for the past 20 some odd years and recently returned. To the Orlando area I think?


I was just guessing based on 32 hours travel time. That's about what it takes me to get to South Australia.

321 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:39:56am

re: #298 3 wood

The media rarely lets the facts get in the way of a good story.

I have had reporters admit to me privately that frequently they are working on stories that are already 95% written by their editors, they are just being sent out by their editors to get a few specific quotes to make the story sound true.

Good Morning Lizards...and happy 4th to all..
I was the subject of a story in the Napa Register once...Totally screwed up and none of the facts were right....Made me look like a hero...
I received letters from people for weeks telling me I was such a good boy..
I wasn't complaining but the story was total fabricated bullshit....
Well 10% was right...that was it....
Did you guys know I'm a hero? What a joke.

322 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:40:44am
323 UncleRancher  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:40:46am

re: #319 Erik The Red

South Africa. 26 years.

Welcome home Erik. Didn't know they had that many funny stories in South Africa. Learn something new every day, I guess.

324 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:41:06am

And Mandy- Happy Independence Day! Please click my nic, and I love you, Sister.

325 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:41:19am

re: #319 Erik The Red

South Africa. 26 years.

Good morning Erik! Welcome home!

326 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:41:46am

re: #320 UncleRancher Similar distances involved do to earths curvature and the most efficient flight paths depending on which side of the country you leave from.

327 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:41:49am
328 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:42:32am

re: #318 Sharmuta

Mrs Putin isn't the first lady of russia. Here is the first lady of russia though.

Pretty good shape.

329 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:42:33am

re: #318 Sharmuta

Mrs Putin isn't the first lady of russia. Here is the first lady of russia though.

She dresses conservatively, lacking the edgy fashion sense that has attracted a nationwide following for Michelle Obama who will accompany her husband U.S. President Barack Obama on his summit with the Russian president, this weekend.

Oh, the fabulousness !

*retch*

330 Erik The Red  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:43:06am

re: #324 Sharmuta

And Mandy- Happy Independence Day! Please click my nic, and I love you, Sister.

Great video!

331 gettinby  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:43:45am

re: #315 Erik The Red

In Tampa atm. Will be spending the afternoon/evening out on the water. Thanks for all the well wishes, once again.

Later Lizards. My day is starting in 15 minutes.

Welcome home! Have fun in my little area of this grand and free country. Lots of fireworks at the beaches if that's where you're going to be.

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY EVERYONE! GOD BLESS AMERICA!

332 rightside  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:44:40am

Have a safe day.

333 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:45:03am

re: #329 SasquatchOnSteroids

Oh, the fabulousness !

*retch*

LOL. I'm so sick of this meme- but I hope they keep running with it, because no one is buying it. The press is discrediting itself on this one.

334 UncleRancher  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:45:55am

Tonight the kids are going to see if they can set fire to the lawn with a hundred bucks worth of fireworks.

335 VioletTiger  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:46:56am

re: #333 Sharmuta

LOL. I'm so sick of this meme- but I hope they keep running with it, because no one is buying it. The press is discrediting itself on this one.


Yeah, hey I get the J. Crew catalog too. I guess that makes me 'fabulous'. groan

336 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:46:59am

re: #324 Sharmuta

And Mandy- Happy Independence Day! Please click my nic, and I love you, Sister.

I love you too, Sharmuta!

Nothing like some Stuck Mojo to kick off today!

337 VioletTiger  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:48:06am

re: #334 UncleRancher

Tonight the kids are going to see if they can set fire to the lawn with a hundred bucks worth of fireworks.

One year my husband set my Alberta Spruce on fire. Went up like a torch. Mr Tiger was in the doghouse for a while.

338 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:48:07am

Michelle Obama? Grossness.

339 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:48:12am

re: #333 Sharmuta

LOL. I'm so sick of this meme- but I hope they keep running with it, because no one is buying it. The press is discrediting itself on this one.

If she wore a burlap sack and rabbit slippers, they'd call it innovative.
That would actually be funny to see the new J. Crew catalog.

340 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:48:29am

re: #332 rightside

Have a safe day.

Well, there go my plans to blow off a digit or two.

341 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:48:47am

Happy Independence Day, {Hoops}

342 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:49:56am

re: #341 Sharmuta

Happy Independence Day, {Hoops}

hey you...Best wishes and kind regards you patriot
{sharm}

343 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:50:13am

re: #334 UncleRancher

Tonight the kids are going to see if they can set fire to the lawn with a hundred bucks worth of fireworks.

$100 bucks ?
That's a starter kit, right ?

/

344 UncleRancher  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:51:24am

re: #343 SasquatchOnSteroids

$100 bucks ?
That's a starter kit, right ?

/

I forgot to mention the footlocker full of stuff left over from last year. There be some nice illegal stuff in there toward the bottom.

345 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:51:31am

re: #339 SasquatchOnSteroids

If she wore a burlap sack and rabbit slippers, they'd call it innovative.
That would actually be funny to see the new J. Crew catalog.

Only if she cinched the waits with some drapery rope and tassles.

346 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:51:46am

re: #339 SasquatchOnSteroids

If she wore a burlap sack and rabbit slippers, they'd call it innovative.
That would actually be funny to see the new J. Crew catalog.

I keep waiting for one of the fashion critics to finally crack and start speaking the truth. You know some of them must be dying to- they're just pansies. No one wants to go first.

We should start a snarky fashion blog- we can be the first.

347 VioletTiger  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:51:59am

It is a stunning day here today. Spent yesterday at the beach. Today we are having dogs and burgers for lunch and ribs and chicken for dinner, along with corn on the cob and potato salad. Then it's watermelon, cheese cake and blueberry pie for dinner. Which means I really gotta scoot and get cookin'.
Have a wonderful day lizards!

348 Bloodnok  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:53:43am

Good morning!

Happy Independence Day!

349 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:53:54am

Is today the "have a hot dog with an Iranian diplomat" day at the WH.
I sorta forgot about that one.

350 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:54:34am

re: #347 VioletTiger

It is a stunning day here today. Spent yesterday at the beach. Today we are having dogs and burgers for lunch and ribs and chicken for dinner, along with corn on the cob and potato salad. Then it's watermelon, cheese cake and blueberry pie for dinner. Which means I really gotta scoot and get cookin'.
Have a wonderful day lizards!

Can I join you? ;)

351 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:54:57am

What does everyone think of this fashion selection?

352 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:55:18am

re: #348 Bloodnok

Happy Independence Day!

353 Bloodnok  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:56:52am

re: #351 Sharmuta

What does everyone think of this fashion selection?

I think, "What a shame Barack was sick on her dress."

354 justdanny  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:57:08am

Cartoon commercial depicting Nokia and Siemens complicity in repressing citizens of Iran.

355 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:58:15am

My eyes! my eyes!re: #351 Sharmuta

356 Rustler  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:58:35am

Bye all shift over.

357 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:58:57am

re: #351 Sharmuta

What does everyone think of this fashion selection?

hmmm... looks eerily like a shower curtain my wife had in our bathroom one time.

358 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:59:09am

re: #351 Sharmuta

What does everyone think of this fashion selection?

I like OR should be her fashion adviser. He knows Fashion...
She is an attractive woman with a poor sense of dressing in public..

359 UncleRancher  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:59:33am

re: #351 Sharmuta

What does everyone think of this fashion selection?

Figures.

360 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 5:59:51am
361 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:00:09am

re: #358 HoosierHoops

I like OR should be her fashion adviser. He knows Fashion...
She is an attractive woman with a poor sense of dressing in public..

She needs a fashion intervention like that show on tv.

362 Bloodnok  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:00:12am

re: #352 Sharmuta

Happy Independence Day!

Hi. Two days in a row with little sleep. I'm a zombie today!

363 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:01:21am

re: #362 Bloodnok

Hi. Two days in a row with little sleep. I'm a zombie today!

I'm giving away karma today because I have that liberty.

364 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:01:33am

re: #351 Sharmuta

What does everyone think of this fashion selection?

That's not too bad. But, being such a well-built, tall woman she should stick to less busy fabrics. The hair is perfect.

365 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:03:46am

re: #364 MandyManners

She's worn a couple things I thought worked for her, but this media attention on her style, which most women I talk to thinks sucks, is getting really ridiculous.

366 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:03:58am

re: #361 Sharmuta

She needs a fashion intervention like that show on tv.

Clinton and Stacey would never be the same.

367 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:05:44am

re: #365 Sharmuta

She's worn a couple things I thought worked for her, but this media attention on her style, which most women I talk to thinks sucks, is getting really ridiculous.

As you mentioned earlier, the fashionista writers *will* get tired of her.

368 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:07:26am
369 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:08:25am

For the first time in my adult life, I'm proud to be an American.....

Shaddap, Michelle.

370 Sharmuta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:08:27am

re: #367 MandyManners

As you mentioned earlier, the fashionista writers *will* get tired of her.

I suppose it's too much to hope it will be sooner rather than later?

371 Jimmah  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:11:08am

Hey 'Wendya'. I replied to your dumb, nasty little comment that I somehow missed last night:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

372 UncleRancher  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:11:42am
373 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:12:53am

re: #370 Sharmuta

I suppose it's too much to hope it will be sooner rather than later?

Hope and change.

374 Jimmah  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:13:59am

re: #354 justdanny

Nice bit of flash. I think I've seen some of this guy's stuff before - he's very good IIRC.

375 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:14:31am

Good morning y'all - from a beautiful (69 degrees going up to 89 degrees), bright and sunny Charlotte!
And, of course, HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY to all and
THANK YOU CHARLES for putting Old Glory up on the Masthead again!
And if any of you would like to put an icon sized (or a little larger) Old Glory on your Desktop - y'all can move it anywhere you want to and can have it waive or stand fixed: for free, go to:[Link: www.deskflags.com...]

And while I go out and put our Old Glory up, here's a beautiful rendition of a beautiful song for y'all to listen to and enjoy! :[Link: www.imeem.com...]

376 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:15:45am

re: #375 realwest

Good morning Stud!
Happy 4th of July!

377 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:16:03am

re: #370 Sharmuta

I suppose it's too much to hope it will be sooner rather than later?

I wonder what could happen that would push them along.

378 Jimmah  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:18:36am

Oh yeah - almost forgot. Happy 4th July folks!

Back to work for me.

379 UncleRancher  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:18:48am

With "the boss" out of town next week I predict the Dow will go up by at least 300 points. It's a pattern I've been watching.

380 srb1976  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:22:17am

Morning and happy Independence Day again! Just dropping in while the cakes are baking....

381 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:22:35am

re: #379 UncleRancher

With "the boss" out of town next week I predict the Dow will go up by at least 300 points. It's a pattern I've been watching.

He can still pop up on television to run his mouth.

382 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:23:18am

re: #354 justdanny

Good thing I use a Samsung mobile phone. q: I'd rather give my money to Kim Jong-Il than Dinnerjacket.

/no time for your lousy distinctions!

//obscure Top Gear reference

383 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:25:25am

re: #381 MandyManners

He can still pop up on television to run his mouth.


Good morning Mandy - he already has - I just put in the spin off links above that he gave a speech at 7:55 this morning weaving our Independence Day into a pitch for his programs, while John McCain gave a speech about the Iranian "dissidents" and how we (the U.S.) ought to be standing up for them!

384 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:26:11am

re: #368 SasquatchOnSteroids

I'm in shock...

It's OK to love America now that Bo-Zama is pres.

385 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:26:30am

re: #367 MandyManners

"Michelle Obama? She's soooo last ____. "

/fill in the blank like a stimulus check.

386 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:26:31am

re: #379 UncleRancher

With "the boss" out of town next week I predict the Dow will go up by at least 300 points. It's a pattern I've been watching.

Just wait for Geithner to speak on TV. Then you'll lose all that gain.

387 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:27:08am

re: #383 realwest

Good morning Mandy - he already has - I just put in the spin off links above that he gave a speech at 7:55 this morning weaving our Independence Day into a pitch for his programs, while John McCain gave a speech about the Iranian "dissidents" and how we (the U.S.) ought to be standing up for them!

I reckon he thinks his programs are equal to the Revolutionary War.

388 UncleRancher  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:27:42am

It's time to fix breakfast. Need energy for the parades & etc. Happy 4th!

389 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:27:51am

re: #385 laZardo

"Michelle Obama? She's soooo last ____. "

/fill in the blank like a stimulus check.

What would have to happen before one said that?

390 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:29:23am

re: #387 MandyManners

I reckon he thinks his programs are equal to the Revolutionary War.

Well, they are pretty revolting.

391 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:32:20am

re: #389 MandyManners

What would have to happen before one said that?

That...is a good question. I'm stumped.

392 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:33:28am

re: #390 VegasRick

Well, they are pretty revolting.

HA!

393 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:33:44am
394 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:34:23am

Have a good one, dudes. I'm going to bed.

395 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:34:44am

re: #391 laZardo

That...is a good question. I'm stumped.

A taped conversation in which she trashes homosexuals in the industry?

396 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:35:24am

re: #383 realwest

We disagree a lot with John McCain's politics domestically, but at least he seems to have his heart in the right place when it's time (that we're supposed to) put our foot down.

/note the parentheses.

397 cronus  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:35:24am

Good morning and Happy Independence Day.

I'm a big practitioner and advocate of recycling but I consider the title to this article to be the perfect embodiment of the the leftist world view.

New York Times: In Public Housing, Talking Up the Recycling Bin

398 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:35:49am

re: #395 MandyManners

The "queenie" tapes?

/ah, classic

399 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:37:01am

Hmmm. Just put a link in spin off links about a new Rasmussen poll that shows Americans overwhelming adhere to the ideals expressed in the Declaration of Independence, but 25% believe that government does NOT derive its authority from the consent of the governed!

400 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:38:47am

BBIAM!

401 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:44:06am

good morning (again!)

Michelle and fashion? puh-leeze. I've seen homeless women at DuPont Circle that do better. The best line I've heard came from my sister re: that white gown she wore to the inaugural.

"Looks like it was designed to pick up signals from Arethat Franklins hat".

heh.

402 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:48:42am

re: #401 wahabicorridor
Hey there and Good morning and Happy Fourth of July {wahabi! Hope you and yours are doing well today?

403 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:49:18am

Google has a July 4th logo this year.

404 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:50:56am

re: #401 wahabicorridor

good morning (again!)

Michelle and fashion? puh-leeze. I've seen homeless women at DuPont Circle that do better. The best line I've heard came from my sister re: that white gown she wore to the inaugural.

"Looks like it was designed to pick up signals from Arethat Franklins hat".

heh.

And from the international desk...

Mrs. Obama bringing glamor to Moscow this weekend

MOSCOW (AP) - Michelle Obama brings her superstar glamor to Moscow this weekend as she accompanies her husband on his summit with the Russian president.

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

Plueeeezzzzeeeeee...

405 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:51:47am

re: #402 realwest

hey rw! We're just dandy. Have to run to the store later and pick up all the fixins. Hubby wants potato salad above all else.

Was going to email you. Got the biopsies back on The Fat Beagle yesterday. As expected, it is inflammatory bowel disease, mostly in the small intestine and the cell types they found show it is the most common form of the illness - good, because vets have more experience with it. Initial treatment starts with a steroid and I'm going to meet with their nutritionist/holistic guy to talk about a low-residue, hypoallergenic diet.

406 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:52:04am

re: #403 Killgore Trout

Google has a July 4th logo this year.

Isn't that RON PAUL holding the spatula?

407 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:52:36am

Instapundit links to advice on how to oppose free speech.....
How to bring the campaign to FIRE DAVID LETTERMAN to your local Tea Party

If you want conservatives to be able to field the best and brightest candidates, there’s something you can do at your Tea Party to make that happen: send the message that sexism and attacks on the children of people you disagree with are career suicide.
....
We MUST do the work required to get David Letterman fired!


Yes, I think they're serious.

408 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:53:09am

I've seen 3 Billy Mays Commercials this morning and it's pissing me off...
Have they no shame? Is the rush to sell shit so important that a man can't rest in peace? Bastards!

409 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:53:33am

re: #408 HoosierHoops

Getting on the ball was what he would have wanted. ):

410 Taqyia2Me  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:55:17am

re: #403 Killgore Trout

Google has a July 4th logo this year.

Google is clearly on board with the marxification of this great nation and W is no longer president. Why wouldn't they celecrate this?

411 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:55:34am

re: #408 HoosierHoops

I've seen 3 Billy Mays Commercials this morning and it's pissing me off...
Have they no shame? Is the rush to sell shit so important that a man can't rest in peace? Bastards!

The love of money over man has no shame.
Shame is an antiquated idea these days.

412 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:55:38am

re: #405 wahabicorridor
Hey wahabi - that's good news (isn't it?) although I tend to look askance at "holistic" types, as long as he's also a real nutrionist I reckon that can't be BAD!
LOL!
I sure hope the Fat Beagle recovers quickly and enjoys the hypoallergenic diet! But watch out for those steriods or you could wind up with a British Mastiff on your hands instead of Fat Beagle! LOL!

413 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:55:45am

re: #408 HoosierHoops

I've seen 3 Billy Mays Commercials this morning and it's pissing me off...
Have they no shame? Is the rush to sell shit so important that a man can't rest in peace? Bastards!

My husband had the exact same reaction. But I disagree. Mays loved what he did, he loved that he was the best, and if he can sell even more product now, I think he'd be pleased.

Hi! It's Billy Mays from the other side!

414 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:56:44am

re: #407 Killgore Trout

Instapundit links to advice on how to oppose free speech.....
How to bring the campaign to FIRE DAVID LETTERMAN to your local Tea Party


Yes, I think they're serious.

Probably not any more or less serious than the liberals that got Imus fired. Probably not any more or less serious than the liberal who pre-arrange content at press conferences and "town hall" meetings. Probably not more or less than major networks that give the president hours of air time, but refuse to accept an opposing opinion, paid or otherwise.

Hell, the conservative have a lot of catching up to do to ever come any where near the expert control of free speech that highlights progressives.

Happy Independence Day, if you don't mind me saying that?

415 SurferDoc  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:57:28am

Michele Obama = Fashion Icon

Sarah Palin = Idiot Hick

No, there is no media bias.

Nope.

/Bastards

416 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:57:34am

re: #410 Taqyia2Me

Yeah, I think since there's a Dem in the house they feel it's ok to be patriotic.

417 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:58:02am

re: #412 realwest


Well, she won't recover. This is treatable, not curable. As for the 'holistic' vet - he's a regulary trained vet who has no problem w/conventional approaches - but he includes acupuncture, etc., and he really does get into the nutrition stuff. I've worked with him before.

418 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:58:08am

re: #408 HoosierHoops

I've seen 3 Billy Mays Commercials this morning and it's pissing me off...
Have they no shame? Is the rush to sell shit so important that a man can't rest in peace? Bastards!

Maybe it's governed by contract and cancellation will result in his estate being penalized for non-performance.

419 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 6:59:57am

KosKidz: Cynthia McKinney is in jail in Israel


A former U.S. Congresswoman goes on a life endangering humanitarian mission, gets captured and is then held in jail against her will. Yet, it takes the MSM over two days to report this and they do it during the Friday 'news dump' where it will get lost in the shuffle.

Of course, Israel can do no wrong, right?

I'm tired of the American MSM covering up the atrocities that have been taking place in Palestine for the last couple years.

I love this update.....

*******UPDATE #3********

Cynthia McKinney is not nuts. She's a hero. ......

She introduced articles of impeachment against Bush, she was a consistent anti-war voter, and against the wishes of many Democrats she sat on a committee to investigate the response toward Hurricane Katrina. She fought hard to stop the mining by US companies of Coltan in the DRC which led to the further environmental degradation and impoverishment of the local people there.

This is the 3rd humanitarian ship she has taken to Gaza.

She is not nuts. She is a person who cares about people more than enriching herself.


They still love the crazy.

420 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:00:02am

re: #403 Killgore Trout

Google has a July 4th logo this year.

Good morning and Happy Independence Day to you! WOW, has anyone told the top exec's at Google that some subversive at their shop stuck an American Flag in their logo! Right next to the picnic basket, too! LOL!
How are you doing today?

421 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:01:37am

re: #418 MandyManners

Maybe it's governed by contract and cancellation will result in his estate being penalized for non-performance.

Well..It's good that his dear family will be helped out....
It just disgusts me that he is selling from the grave...
So sad....This is what we have come too.. contracts and money hold sway over a man that lost his life....

422 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:02:25am

re: #417 wahabicorridor
Well then I hope she responds well to the treatment and lives a long and happy life with the steroids and diet!

423 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:04:18am

re: #413 wahabicorridor

My husband had the exact same reaction. But I disagree. Mays loved what he did, he loved that he was the best, and if he can sell even more product now, I think he'd be pleased.

Hi! It's Billy Mays from the other side!

Plus, these ads are probably scheduled (and paid for) months in advance.
I agree with you he loved what he did; it showed.

424 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:05:29am

re: #421 HoosierHoops

Morning HH.

FYI and all. My response time is back to normal between me and LGF. I don't know what caused the slow down over the last 3 days, or why it stopped.

It seems like it was a Western United States+Comcast+LGF problem, as those are the 3 variable that seemed to pop up with other Lizards who had the same problem.

Around midnight last night, I sent a Visual Tract Route chart to Charles showing my "hops." Maybe he saw something in that chart.

Maybe it was all Comcasts problem and maybe it's something they have been trying to correct for a few days.

I don't know.

For the heck of it, if anyone continues to have response time problem, and you see me on LGF, post a comment, let me know.

425 nyc redneck  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:05:48am

*HAPPY 4th of JULY *

i love the 4th of july.
finally, today we have no thunderstorms in the forecast.
so we're going ahead w/ the cook out in the court yard.
i've already got a bouquet on the picnic table.
8 little american flags in a flower vase.

426 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:06:44am

re: #421 HoosierHoops
Good morning Hoops - Happy Independence Day to you!
And I agree with you - and I think Oxyclean or whatever other crap he was selling would get so much grief over suing his estate for not letting his pre-recorded commercials appear on TV that it would be a lose-lose situation for them.

OTOH, look at how many millions of downloads there have been of Michael Jacksons' musice since his death - and yeah, I know it's not the same thing, but MJ was broke (from what I hear) and I have no problems with his estate getting more (apparently much needed) income from that.

427 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:08:35am

IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776
The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
hen in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

428 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:08:36am

re: #425 nyc redneck
Hi nyc redneck - yep, the 4th of July is one of my favorite holidays too! Are y'all gonna get a chance to see the Macy's fireworks display this year!

429 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:08:59am

re: #425 nyc redneck

*HAPPY 4th of JULY *

i love the 4th of july.
finally, today we have no thunderstorms in the forecast.
so we're going ahead w/ the cook out in the court yard.
i've already got a bouquet on the picnic table.
8 little american flags in a flower vase.

Nice!

430 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:09:00am

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

431 avanti  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:09:02am

re: #349 SasquatchOnSteroids

Is today the "have a hot dog with an Iranian diplomat" day at the WH.
I sorta forgot about that one.

No:

"The White House will celebrate the Fourth of July and honor military heroes and their families with a barbecue on the South Lawn. The evening will conclude with fireworks. 1,200 military families have been invited to attend and the Marine Band will also perform. White House staff and their families have also been invited to watch fireworks on the South Lawn. The President will deliver brief remarks, which are pooled press."

432 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:09:22am

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

433 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:09:37am

re: #428 realwest

Hi nyc redneck - yep, the 4th of July is one of my favorite holidays too! Are y'all gonna get a chance to see the Macy's fireworks display this year!

I heard it may rain and the firework display may be brought indoors into Macy's.

434 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:09:39am

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.

435 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:09:43am

re: #419 Killgore Trout

KosKidz: Cynthia McKinney is in jail in Israel


They still love the crazy.

What do you expect? They're all for helping the mentally unstable reach their full potential rather than letting the conservative morality in place isolate them like the "freaks" of olde.

/ q;

436 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:10:58am

re: #421 HoosierHoops

Well..It's good that his dear family will be helped out....
It just disgusts me that he is selling from the grave...
So sad....This is what we have come too.. contracts and money hold sway over a man that lost his life....

Helped out? I guarantee you that they are getting a chunk of change from this. Contracts are one of the bases of our society.

437 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:11:30am

re: #420 realwest

I'm doing good. I'm going to throw some lamb shanks in the smoker, make some Daal (curried lentils), drink some bud and watch fireworks from the roof tonight. How are you?

438 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:11:34am

re: #424 Walter L. Newton

That's great news Walter! What do you want to bet that Comcast had to reboot a Cisco switch last night?
Happy 4th of July my friend....
There is an envelope with your name on it going out Monday....
/Moving in with your new girlfriend? You frigging stud...
I always wish you the best

439 freedombilly  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:11:49am

T-minus 6 minutes and counting until Lance Armstrong.

Vive le tour!

440 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:11:58am

Have a wonderful Independence day, everyone !

A Million Thanks to our military who are overseas fighting and protecting us while we enjoy the fruits of their labor and sacrifice, and are unable to be with their families today. You're in my thoughts today.

441 freedombilly  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:13:40am

Hello rw! It has been a long time! How are you feeling these days?

442 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:14:06am

For 233 years these founding ideas have held fast. 43 times we've transfered power. We fought a brutal civil war over the ideals and we and our ideals emerged stronger. We've fought wars on behalf of others so they could reap the benefit of these ideals. The ideals once in place created the largest expansion of benefit for all peoples in the creation of all manner of goods to make lives easily, longer with better quality.

Happy Fourth of July!

443 FrogMarch  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:15:20am

re: #407 Killgore Trout

You do understand that free speech goes both ways, right?

444 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:16:41am

re: #426 realwest

Good Morning RealWest....Happy 4th and give your mom a peck on the cheek this morning....You can tell her it's from me....I really miss my mom and lost her to Cancer...Everything that I am....She will always my hero...I am my mother in spirit... I miss her...
Kiss your mom Real..She was a great Athlete...A great golfer..Played Ball...Taught me to pitch as a little leaguer

445 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:16:46am

More on the possible Palin embezzlement charges.....

PALIN RESIGNATION 'DAMAGE CONTROL' FOR COMING 'ICEBERG SCANDAL' ... MORE: EMBEZZLEMENT INDICTMENTS COMING?

Most of this stuff has been around for a while. Although her resignation seems to indicate an impending scandal I would have thought the McCain camp would have uncovered this during the vetting process. To add further speculation: Maybe this is part of the reason for the hard feelings from the McCain camp. If she covered up her embezzlement only to have the McCain camp figure it out later in the campaign might have pissed off some people.

446 3 wood  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:18:27am

Good morning.

I had an interesting conversation yesterday with a relative of mine who is a true lefty, an Obama worshipper, and a capitalist when it comes to her money but a socialist when it comes to yours.

This relative early retired a couple years ago and has been doing a lot of traveling and some part time work here and there but noting consistent. Anyway, she tells me yesterday that she is trying to get back into full time work cause she wants health insurance. Then she says, "I hope Obama does something (referring to health insurance) but I'm not going to wait on that."

That's when it struck me, some of those on the left actually think health insurance can be "free" for them, as if the government can bestow it upon them like manna from heaven, if they just vote the right people in. That is why, I believe, you keep hearing them use the phrase "single payer system", in that they think they can get a health care set up where somebody else pays the bills for them. Some actually don't think that they pay a price in higher taxes, lower productivity, fewer job opportunities, lower health care quality and the like.

Where do they think the government gets the money?

Part 2 of this scenario involves Obama's statements about raising taxes only on those who make more than $250,000 a year. This creates for the socialist the assumption that they can get something for no cost to themselves, they can vote to have the money confiscated from somebody else. All that remains is to demonize that "somebody else" so you can then justify punishing them by confiscating their assets to then pay for goodies for the voting base.

I now expect to see a lot more class warfare before the Obama administration gets done.

448 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:19:20am
449 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:19:38am

re: #434 JCM Good morning JCM - thanks for posting the Declaration. It, and the Bill of Rights, are two of the most significant documents ever written.
And when they concluded with:
"with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor."

They weren't joking; at the time King George had already tried the Founding Fathers, found them guilty of treason and ordered that they be killed by hanging of "if such means are not readily available then bayonetting shall do". And England had over 45 thousand battle tested troop in NYC, and the mightiest navy the world had ever seen to that point in time; all just 90 miles away from Philladelphia.
They put everything on the line for an IDEA: that the governed should do the governing -something that had never really been tried before. Indeed, after the end of the unanimous vote for the Declaration of Independence, Robert Livingston, of NY, was heard to say ("in a quivering voice" according to other Founding Father's diaries) "What shall we do if our experiment shall fail; do you think England would take us back as colonies?"
Again, thank you for posting that and Happy Independence Day to you!

450 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:20:23am

re: #447 Killgore Trout
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, Under Relentless Siege from Alaska’s Citizens, Announces Resignation - Updated

This just in my inbox, from a source connected sometimes to CNN:

"Here's a quote I got from law enforcement here in Alaska yesterday afternoon regarding Palin "a criminal indictment is pending authorization.

451 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:20:25am

re: #447 Killgore Trout

WOW!

KT found the Missing Link!

;-P

452 FrogMarch  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:20:35am
453 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:21:08am

re: #437 Killgore Trout
Wow, sounds delicious! Good on ya Killgore! I'm doing pretty well, thanks - will have to watch the fireworks on TV I'm afraid, but other than that, it's a gorgeous Fourth of July and we're doing fine!

454 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:21:42am

re: #449 realwest

Good Morning to you and your mom Real!

Happy Fourth!

455 jorline  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:21:53am

re: #431 avanti

No:

"The White House will celebrate the Fourth of July and honor military heroes and their families with a barbecue on the South Lawn. The evening will conclude with fireworks. 1,200 military families have been invited to attend and the Marine Band will also perform. White House staff and their families have also been invited to watch fireworks on the South Lawn. The President will deliver brief remarks, which are pooled press."

The consummate Studebaker tailpipe sucker.
/
Happy 4th avanti.

456 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:22:33am

re: #448 JCM

Olympic Mountains viewed across Hood Canal.

At work I have a link to the beaches of Hawaii in real time by webcam...
When I stress..I click on the link and dream of the beach...
Happy 4th!

457 nyc redneck  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:22:35am

re: #428 realwest

Hi nyc redneck - yep, the 4th of July is one of my favorite holidays too! Are y'all gonna get a chance to see the Macy's fireworks display this year!

hey {real, the fireworks are on the west side this yr. to commemorate the 400th anniversary of the exploration of the hudson river.
i think i'll opt for roof top viewing. once i got such a ring side seat, that when i got home, i was covered w/ soot and grime and had a few burn hole in my blouse from falling debris. LOL
i hope you have a great day.

458 SixDegrees  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:22:48am

re: #408 HoosierHoops

I've seen 3 Billy Mays Commercials this morning and it's pissing me off...
Have they no shame? Is the rush to sell shit so important that a man can't rest in peace? Bastards!

For what it's worth, I heard an interview with Mays just a few weeks ago. He got his start selling crap out of his van on Atlantic City's boardwalk, and never looked back. In his own words, he was a pitchman, first, middle and last. And his peers in the same industry proclaimed him to be not only a pitchman, but the pitchman, the very pinnacle of their profession whose talent could only be striven for but never exceeded.

I suspect that Mays would be pleased that his ads are still out there selling products. To him, that's what it was all about.

459 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:22:50am

re: #441 freedombilly
Hello freedombilly - it has indeed been a long time! I'm doing ok, thanks, how's about yourself?

460 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:23:17am

re: #453 realwest

It's best to stay off the roads today anyways. Stay safe.

461 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:23:57am

Obama sez: On the 4th of July, Overcoming Americas Challenges

462 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:24:47am

re: #461 Killgore Trout
Ugh, I'm having trouble today......
On the 4th of July, Overcoming Americas Challenges


Bla, bla bla bla

463 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:25:18am

re: #458 SixDegrees

For what it's worth, I heard an interview with Mays just a few weeks ago. He got his start selling crap out of his van on Atlantic City's boardwalk, and never looked back. In his own words, he was a pitchman, first, middle and last. And his peers in the same industry proclaimed him to be not only a pitchman, but the pitchman, the very pinnacle of their profession whose talent could only be striven for but never exceeded.

I suspect that Mays would be pleased that his ads are still out there selling products. To him, that's what it was all about.

Well crap! I guess I have to totally agree with you....
/I have not nor will ever will buy any product pitched by Billy Mays....I'll always have that to hold onto....:)
RIP Billy

464 nyc redneck  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:26:12am

re: #429 VegasRick

Nice!

hey {Vegas}
have a wonderful 4th of july.
i'm going to do some serious thinking abt. all the people around the world who would be so thankful to live in this great country.
we are so blessed.

465 SixDegrees  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:26:43am

re: #448 JCM

Olympic Mountains viewed across Hood Canal.

Sweet. I love the Olympic Peninsula. I've crossed most of the continent three times now to visit.

466 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:26:47am
467 freedombilly  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:27:42am

re: #459 realwest

Hello freedombilly - it has indeed been a long time! I'm doing ok, thanks, how's about yourself?

I'm doing great. I am watching Lance in the Tour right now with a huge smile on my face!

468 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:27:50am

re: #446 3 wood Good morning 3 wood - well hell, Obama and class warfare seem to go together like peanut butter and jelly, only it doesn't taste as good as PB&J nor is it anywhere near as good for you.
But Obama to one side, HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY TO YOU! (and you might want to check the spin off links about Obama pushing his agenda during his 4th of July speech while McCain was talking about how we ought to stand with the Iranian dissidents for Freedom and Democracy.
Yes, they were both political speeches, but I thought McCain's was far more in keeping with the spirit of the day.

469 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:28:03am

re: #464 nyc redneck

hey {Vegas}
have a wonderful 4th of july.
i'm going to do some serious thinking abt. all the people around the world who would be so thankful to live in this great country.
we are so blessed.

Damn straight!

470 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:28:05am

re: #466 VegasRick

I still think a scandal is the the most likely scenario. We'll probably know for sure in the next few weeks.

471 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:28:17am

Happy Independence Day!

472 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:29:26am

re: #470 Killgore Trout

I still think a scandal is the the most likely scenario. We'll probably know for sure in the next few weeks.

Why? Being in the hole for ahlf a million bucks for legal fees, with no end in sight isn't reason enough?

Hell, there's your scandal right there.

473 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:29:56am

re: #444 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops, I will indeed kiss my mom on the cheek for you - and I'm sorry that the loss of your mother still resonates so deeply within you; she IS in a better place my friend.

474 Cannadian Club Akbar  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:30:08am

re: #463 HoosierHoops

Well crap! I guess I have to totally agree with you....
/I have not nor will ever will buy any product pitched by Billy Mays....I'll always have that to hold onto....:)
RIP Billy


Mays was suppose to start shooting Taco Bell commercials in August, IIRC. That would have rocked.

475 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:30:09am

re: #464 nyc redneck

I would move my family (back?) to America if it didn't cost an arm, leg and my right nut to petition each of my parents.

/no wonder so many people just opt to hop the fence.

//me and siblings are US citizens though, doesn't make it much easier.

476 avanti  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:30:49am

re: #455 jorline

The consummate Studebaker tailpipe sucker.
/
Happy 4th avanti.

Back at you. I intend too consume lot of American beer at a friends cook out later today. She a conservative that I got to drink the Obama Kool Aid and so I'm not that popular with her family, should be a interesting cook out.

477 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:31:11am

re: #463 HoosierHoops

Well crap! I guess I have to totally agree with you....
/I have not nor will ever will buy any product pitched by Billy Mays....I'll always have that to hold onto....:)
RIP Billy

WHY WON'T YOU GET ON THE BALL?

/his manner of delivery has no imitations.

478 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:31:17am

this evening I will drive up into the lower slopes of the Sandia's in my favorite park...not too far up...find a spot to sit and look down and across the valley to the west mesa, 20 miles away...Rio Ranch to the north along the valley to Las Lunas in the south is about 40 miles....millions of orange and white twinkling lights and fireworks up and down the entire valley...it is quite a sight to see...you cannot hear them but the silent explosions have a uniqueness too....New Mexicans are wildly patriotic...it's a different way to celebrate

479 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:31:44am

re: #462 Killgore Trout

Ugh, I'm having trouble today......
On the 4th of July, Overcoming Americas Challenges

[Video]
Bla, bla bla bla

The text.....

Now is the time to lay a new foundation for growth and prosperity. Now is the time to revamp our education system, demand more from teachers, parents, and students alike, and build schools that prepare every child in America to outcompete any worker in the world.

NO IT IS NOT TIME FOR A NEW FOUNDATION! This one has work for 233 years, longer than any other form of government currently on earth, it has done more for the condition of man kind than any other.

Now is the time to reform an unsustainable health care system that is imposing crushing costs on families, businesses, large and small, and state and federal budgets. We need to protect what works, fix what’s broken, and bring down costs for all Americans. No more talk. No more delay. Health care reform must happen this year.

Wrong again, it's not a crisis, it's not broken, it's the best in the world and could use a few improvements. Completely reworking into a proven failed system is not the answer.

And now is the time to meet our energy challenge – one of the greatest challenges we have ever confronted as a people or as a planet. For the sake of our economy and our children, we must build on the historic bill passed by the House of Representatives, and make clean energy the profitable kind of energy so that we can end our dependence on foreign oil and reclaim America’s future.

Without domestic drilling, domestic coal, and nuclear you are just spewing carbon for no purpose.

480 whiterasta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:32:01am

Happy 4th of July to all you Yanks!

G-d Bless America and G-d Bless President Obama.

481 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:32:42am

re: #447 Killgore Trout
Nice of you to pick today to publish yet another set of rumors and innuendos about Sarah Palin. You do know, do you not, that there were 18 different ethics charges filed against her (AFTER she became McCain's running mate and NONE OF THEM panned out to be anything but politicially motivated)?

482 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:33:12am

re: #470 Killgore Trout

I still think a scandal is the the most likely scenario. We'll probably know for sure in the next few weeks.

Happy 4th KT!
I've watched a lot of political scandals in my day....The Template is the Scandal arrives first by media then the resignation...
I can't recall one time that it was the other way around....
Hope today finds you well

483 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:33:48am

re: #479 JCM

I couldn't watch the whole thing. Socialized medicine is not what I think of on Independence day. Let's see if this is any better.....
Ron Paul sez: Happy Fourth of July!

484 SixDegrees  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:33:51am

re: #407 Killgore Trout

Instapundit links to advice on how to oppose free speech.....
How to bring the campaign to FIRE DAVID LETTERMAN to your local Tea Party


Yes, I think they're serious.

I would agree that this is a colossal waste of time on the part of the Tea Party hangers-on, or whoever is trying to organize it. It also has huge potential to backfire, badly.

Trying to cast it as an assault on free speech, though - not so much. Those organizing the protest are exercising their own free speech rights. The Constitution guarantees that anyone can say pretty much whatever they want; it doesn't provide any guarantee that other people have to like it. Speech often has consequences. Anyone is free to voice their views - and be prepared for the resulting criticism that may follow. Letterman remains free to say whatever he please, to anyone who will listen, even if he loses his show; another thing the Constitution doesn't guarantee is a podium.

485 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:34:25am

re: #481 realwest

Nice of you to pick today to publish yet another set of rumors and innuendos about Sarah Palin. You do know, do you not, that there were 18 different ethics charges filed against her (AFTER she became McCain's running mate and NONE OF THEM panned out to be anything but politicially motivated)?

None yet.

486 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:34:54am

re: #479 JCM

I wonder if FCBBHO thinks the Declaration of Independence is as flawed as the Constitution.

487 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:36:56am

re: #479 JCM

We're still getting worse test scores than the Russians! How can you say our system isn't broken!

/THE RUSSIANS, GODDAMMIT

//oh, you get the idea. q;

488 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:37:15am

re: #478 albusteve

this evening I will drive up into the lower slopes of the Sandia's in my favorite park...not too far up...find a spot to sit and look down and across the valley to the west mesa, 20 miles away...Rio Ranch to the north along the valley to Las Lunas in the south is about 40 miles....millions of orange and white twinkling lights and fireworks up and down the entire valley...it is quite a sight to see...you cannot hear them but the silent explosions have a uniqueness too....New Mexicans are wildly patriotic...it's a different way to celebrate

albusteve - I hope you will have some company? Someone to spend the 4th with? I want to cry thinking about you being all alone on a day when family visits are so important . . .

489 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:37:25am

re: #470 Killgore Trout

I still think a scandal is the the most likely scenario. We'll probably know for sure in the next few weeks.

can't wait.
/

490 jorline  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:37:26am

re: #476 avanti

Back at you. I intend too consume lot of American beer at a friends cook out later today. She a conservative that I got to drink the Obama Kool Aid and so I'm not that popular with her family, should be a interesting cook out.

Don't turn it into a Jim Jones Kool Aid cookout.
Sounds like there may be food fights.

491 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:38:00am

re: #486 MandyManners

I wonder if FCBBHO thinks the Declaration of Independence is as flawed as the Constitution.

When he says "New Foundation" it's clear to me he sees more wrong than right with this country.

If you believe in; LIFE, LIBERTY, PROPERTY (PURSUIT of HAPPINESS).

Find me someplace that is more "right."

492 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:39:05am

re: #491 JCM

Europe? Japan?

/ on a roll here

493 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:39:15am

re: #487 laZardo

We're still getting worse test scores than the Russians! How can you say our system isn't broken!

/THE RUSSIANS, GODDAMMIT

//oh, you get the idea. q;

Edu is broken.

Only because Zinn, Ayers and ilk all kin ideological to Obama have run the edu system into the ground.

494 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:40:19am

re: #492 laZardo

Europe? Japan?

/ on a roll here

Socialized both.

I merely intensely dislike socialism.

495 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:41:37am

re: #473 realwest

Hey Hoops, I will indeed kiss my mom on the cheek for you - and I'm sorry that the loss of your mother still resonates so deeply within you; she IS in a better place my friend.

Thank you RW. Your words mean a lot to me....I just had thought of her for some reason and a million memories of her flooded my mind...
I was adopted and she was my everything..She had so much influence in my life and I miss her dearly.....

496 soxfan4life  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:42:00am

re: #486 MandyManners

I wonder if FCBBHO thinks the Declaration of Independence is as flawed as the Constitution.

He wants to have a Declaration of Government Dependence.

497 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:42:08am

re: #491 JCM

When he says "New Foundation" it's clear to me he sees more wrong than right with this country.

If you believe in; LIFE, LIBERTY, PROPERTY (PURSUIT of HAPPINESS).

Find me someplace that is more "right."

What foundation would he substitute?

498 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:42:50am

re: #496 soxfan4life

He wants to have a Declaration of Government Dependence.

Based on those positive liberties he loves soooooooo much.

499 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:43:13am

re: #480 whiterasta

Happy 4th of July to all you Yanks!

G-d Bless America and G-d Bless President Obama.

Don't forget Rev Wright!

500 FrogMarch  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:43:16am

re: #493 JCM

Edu is broken.

Only because Zinn, Ayers and ilk all kin ideological to Obama have run the edu system into the ground.

Yes. It's also broken because of the government monopoly called "the teachers union".

501 avanti  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:43:26am

re: #490 jorline

Don't turn it into a Jim Jones Kool Aid cookout.
Sounds like there may be food fights.


Her dad was a low level Nixon administration employee, so he was not happy when his daughter ditched McCain after the Palin pick. She's a pro choice fiscal conservative and can't find a happy home with either side.

502 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:43:26am

re: #494 JCM

But they have bullet trains! And Japan has giant fightin' robots!

/well, not yet but I wish Japan started making giant fightin' robots already. 0:

503 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:43:32am

re: #488 reine.de.tout

albusteve - I hope you will have some company? Someone to spend the 4th with? I want to cry thinking about you being all alone on a day when family visits are so important . . .

I'm okay...I spend all my holidays alone except Thanksgiving...my ex has me for turkey and football...it's sure not the same anymore...people gone or scattered...it is what it is...I enjoy evesdropping and listening to what others have planned tho...believe me I have had more than my fair share of excitement in my life...time to take the back seat now I guess...I'm cool

504 soxfan4life  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:43:44am

re: #497 MandyManners

What foundation would he substitute?

Entitlements for all. Government control over Liberty and Freedom.

505 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:44:35am

re: #495 HoosierHoops

Thank you RW. Your words mean a lot to me....I just had thought of her for some reason and a million memories of her flooded my mind...
I was adopted and she was my everything..She had so much influence in my life and I miss her dearly.....

All my kids are adopted, out of the state welfare system.

Your words are encouraging!

506 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:44:43am

re: #485 laZardo

GAZE.

507 wahabicorridor  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:45:14am

Ok, I'm outta here - have a great day everyone!

508 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:45:39am

re: #501 avanti

Her dad was a low level Nixon administration employee, so he was not happy when his daughter ditched McCain after the Palin pick. She's a pro choice fiscal conservative and can't find a happy home with either side.

You'll be the belle of the ball.

509 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:46:02am

re: #506 realwest

Huh?

510 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:46:28am

re: #494 JCM
Forgive him JCM, for he is even younger than his years, and knows precious little of what he is talking about.

511 soxfan4life  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:46:35am

re: #501 avanti

Anyone who claims to be a fiscal conservative and an 0bama voter are talking out of both sides of their mouth. Fiscal conservatives did not have a choice out of the 2 major party candidates and wold have voted for McCain just to keep the commie that's in office now out.

512 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:48:09am

re: #502 laZardo

But they have bullet trains! And Japan has giant fightin' robots!

/well, not yet but I wish Japan started making giant fightin' robots already. 0:

We're going to get bullet trains! Sez' Obama.

Quick cost calculation the brand spanking new slow light rail in Seattle, opening this week. Cost $166,000,000 per mile. Bullet trains would come in a billion a mile. Seattle to LA a mere trillion dollars.

513 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:49:06am

re: #511 soxfan4life

I only voted for him to get Sarah in national office. But Now I think she will run around the country getting Republicans voted in for 2010 and postioning herself for the presidency in 2012.

Too bad there are no other republicans who scare the whiz outta liberals like her...she does need a running mate.

514 avanti  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:49:09am

re: #508 VegasRick

You'll be the belle of the ball.

I hope to talk sports. :) If the subject turns to Palin, I'll let the daughter talk and walk away to refill my beer.

515 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:50:26am

re: #512 JCM

HotDAMN. And I thought the New York T-line was expensive.

/on a more serious note now.

516 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:50:33am

re: #514 avanti
Probably best for you to do that.

517 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:50:46am

re: #504 soxfan4life

Entitlements for all. Government control over Liberty and Freedom.

Because Big Daddy Knows Best.

518 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:51:17am

re: #510 realwest

Forgive him JCM, for he is even younger than his years, and knows precious little of what he is talking about.

He's having a little fun, sarc tags.......

519 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:51:26am

re: #511 soxfan4life

Anyone who claims to be a fiscal conservative and an 0bama voter are talking out of both sides of their mouth. Fiscal conservatives did not have a choice out of the 2 major party candidates and wold have voted for McCain just to keep the commie that's in office now out.

pretty shallow convictions....I'd have little respect for someone who's principles are so easily swayed....just another drooler

520 soxfan4life  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:51:33am

re: #513 quiet man

I only voted for him to get Sarah in national office. But Now I think she will run around the country getting Republicans voted in for 2010 and postioning herself for the presidency in 2012.

Too bad there are no other republicans who scare the whiz outta liberals like her...she does need a running mate.

Romney/ Palin is one I'd like to see. After Biden there is no argument the left can put up on a VP that has any validity.

521 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:51:35am

((((((HoosierHoops))))))

522 whiterasta  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:51:41am

re: #499 VegasRick

Naah, screw Rev Wright. I should have said may G-od Bless the preside4nt, not necessarily BHO, personally.

523 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:52:14am

re: #493 JCM

Edu is broken.

Only because Zinn, Ayers and ilk all kin ideological to Obama have run the edu system into the ground.

GRAMSCIAN WHORES!

524 Thanos  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:52:15am

I hope you all enjoy the fourth, and hark back to the real source of our liberty on this day: Our individual rights, the abrogation of divine rights and elite classes, and the balance of power between branches of government in our Republic.

Here's hoping you spend time with family, eat good food, and watch some fireworks.

525 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:52:30am

re: #520 soxfan4life
I likeRomney, but I think he is unelectable..no true fire and we need a big yet controlled firebreak to stop the chaos

526 3 wood  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:52:36am

re: #408 HoosierHoops

I've seen 3 Billy Mays Commercials this morning and it's pissing me off...
Have they no shame? Is the rush to sell shit so important that a man can't rest in peace? Bastards!

His estate is still getting paid.

527 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:52:45am

re: #505 JCM

All my kids are adopted, out of the state welfare system.

Your words are encouraging!

That is wonderful!
Here is a story.. Did you buy the Lizard Cookbook?
My mom was playing in a woman's Golf tournament years ago in NY...
She scammed the real recipe for Waldorf Salad from the Waldorf- Astoria Hotel and made it every Thanksgiving...Big family secret.. I published it in her memory in the cookbook....

528 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:53:50am

re: #522 whiterasta

Naah, screw Rev Wright. I should have said may G-od Bless the preside4nt, not necessarily BHO, personally.

BHO is anti-independence.

529 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:53:53am

re: #524 Thanos

You too...remember that the reason we are able to celebrate today at all is the freedom to own your own mind and body.

530 soxfan4life  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:54:09am

re: #525 quiet man

I likeRomney, but I think he is unelectable..no true fire and we need a big yet controlled firebreak to stop the chaos

The more the economy tanks the more electable Romney becomes. If it stabilizes he loses again.

531 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:54:47am

re: #527 HoosierHoops

HH - sorry I didn't answer you back about 30 minutes ago. Was on the phone. Yes, I will look for mail. Thanks. And I will send you all needed NEW contact info in an email sometime this month.

You're so nice.

532 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:55:43am

re: #524 Thanos

Thanos, how is your response time between you and LGF? My problem went away over night.

533 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:55:44am

re: #526 3 wood
Seems like the devil hasn't noticed his death for 3 days...

the man was blessed..

534 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:55:59am

re: #527 HoosierHoops

That is wonderful!
Here is a story.. Did you buy the Lizard Cookbook?
My mom was playing in a woman's Golf tournament years ago in NY...
She scammed the real recipe for Waldorf Salad from the Waldorf- Astoria Hotel and made it every Thanksgiving...Big family secret.. I published it in her memory in the cookbook....

Yeah, I got a cookbook!

Excellent! I won't tell a soul!

535 avanti  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:56:19am

re: #513 quiet man

Too bad there are no other republicans who scare the whiz outta liberals like her...she does need a running mate.

I hear that scared line repeated over and over, but as a leftie, I know of none that fear Palin. She's a nice gal, I get the regular folks appeal, but we don't fear her as a candidate. Unless she can swing her negative perceptions from outside the base, she'll be a liberals wet dream of a opponent.
By quitting early as governor, it's one just one more attack arrow in a pretty full quiver.

536 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:56:40am

re: #518 JCM
Did you see a sarc tag on his #485?

537 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:56:44am

re: #529 quiet man

You too...remember that the reason we are able to celebrate today at all is the freedom to own your own mind and body.

The freedom to our body is being trashed by the new requirements that we must upgrade our houses before we can sell them. If property is the product of our labor, then our labor has been taken over by the government.

538 3 wood  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:57:02am

re: #468 realwest

Good morning 3 wood

Good morning yourself. Hope you are doing well this morning.

539 avanti  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:57:38am

re: #516 quiet man

Probably best for you to do that.

Yep, in reviewing the last few days of posts while I was away, I see some raw nerves over Palin.

540 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:59:16am

re: #535 avanti
You are entitled to your opinion, for sure, but I believe it really doesnt hold water...unless as a lefty you can explain why she alone of all the unelected VP candidates is still under constant attack from your side.


Myself, I believe she does scare liberals..otherwise, they wouldnt fall to misogyny and all so quickly and fopr so l.ong

541 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:59:19am

re: #535 avanti

I hear that scared line repeated over and over, but as a leftie, I know of none that fear Palin. She's a nice gal, I get the regular folks appeal, but we don't fear her as a candidate. Unless she can swing her negative perceptions from outside the base, she'll be a liberals wet dream of a opponent.
By quitting early as governor, it's one just one more attack arrow in a pretty full quiver.

nobody would admit it if they were....if they are not affraid then why the onslaught against her?...either way it seems to me liberals are not particularly rational....talk all you want otherwise, the proof is in the pudding

542 FrogMarch  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:59:22am

PJTV has a 'smokin episode exploring the corruption of congressman Jim Moran (D). Happy 4th of July

Jim Moran (D) is being investigated for giving more than $137 million dollars to donors. Since that investigation is being carried out by fellow corrupt D's - I doubt anything will happen to him.

543 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 7:59:46am

re: #518 JCM

re: #536 realwest

#485 wasn't sarc, I'll admit. But a resignation so sudden has to indicate something off, and perhaps I am hoping a bit that it turns out as unsubstantiated like the allegations before.

As for the whole socialist policy bits, I know government here can be hideously corrupt particularly at the city and provincial levels. I suspect most of where the money gets rerouted in America would be at those levels as well.

544 That's Mr. President to you  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:00:16am

Happy Independence Day everyone.

I just thought I'd stop in and let you know how my administration is bringing bold innovation to our military engagements in the Middle East.

We are implementing a completely new and unparalleled strategy in Afganistan. It is so new and innovative that the AP described it this way:


The offensive will test the Obama administration's new strategy of holding territory and letting the Afghan government sink roots in Helmand province. The insurgency has proven particularly resilient in this area, where foreign troops have never before operated in such large numbers.

President Barack Obama told The Associated Press in an interview Thursday that he has a "very narrow definition of success when it comes to our national security interests" in the region. "And that is that al-Qaida and its affiliates cannot set up safe havens from which to attack Americans."

This idea - the idea of clearing an area, holding it, and denying the enemy a base of operations - is unprecedented in all of history. Certainly my predecessor was not intelligent enough to think up such a strategy, let alone bold enough to enact it.

The AP goes on further to describe this clear headed strategy that could have only come about by bringing Hope and Change to Washington so that Hope and Change could come to Afghanistan:


An immediate goal, the military says, is to clear away insurgents before the nation's Aug. 20 presidential election. Southern Afghanistan is a Taliban stronghold but also a region where Afghan President Hamid Karzai is seeking votes from fellow Pashtun tribesmen. Without such a large Marine assault, the Afghan government would likely not be able to set up voting booths to which citizens could safely travel.

The Pentagon is deploying 21,000 additional troops to Afghanistan in time for the elections and expects the total number of U.S. forces there to reach 68,000 by year's end. That is double the number of troops in Afghanistan in 2008 but still half as many as are now in Iraq.

Clearly, this bold idea of bringing in additional troops in a sort of "surge" to secure the country so that elections can be held is something that needed to happen. Americans can feel good about their decision last November - finally America has leadership willing to take the risks, make the sacrifices and do the hard work necessary to bring democracy to the Middle East.

545 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:00:19am

Killgore's low and slow lamb shanks......
Make a rub:
Sage, rosemerry, garlic, ginger, curry powder, chilli powder, salt, lemon juice, Worcestershire sauce.

Rub on lamb, grill over low indirect heat (200 degrees) for 6-8 hours turning every hour so so. The meat will just fall off the bone. Yum!

546 freedombilly  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:00:20am

re: #495 HoosierHoops

HH: It sounds like you had the privilege of loving and being loved by an amazing woman. I think I will go call my mother right now.

547 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:00:35am

re: #535 avanti

I hear that scared line repeated over and over, but as a leftie, I know of none that fear Palin. She's a nice gal, I get the regular folks appeal, but we don't fear her as a candidate. Unless she can swing her negative perceptions from outside the base, she'll be a liberals wet dream of a opponent.
By quitting early as governor, it's one just one more attack arrow in a pretty full quiver.

Ok, let's assume you have a point on the "fear" factor (clever, huh?).

Then, why do you think certain highly visible personalities on the left have gone after her with rhetoric that is nothing short of ugly. And this sort of vulgar is even worst at the street level. Look at some of the most widely popular progressive blogs and read some of the vile topics and comments that they wrap Palin in?

Why is that happening on the left?

548 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:01:43am

re: #537 MandyManners
Yes, our basic freedoms are under attack from the left every day. This is what happens when a party doesn't care about who they put up for election, only what. Tho in my experience liberals usually do not worry about who someone is, only what.

549 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:01:53am

re: #536 realwest

Did you see a sarc tag on his #485?

Different subject.... Palin.... no sarc tag on that....

We were going back on and forth on Obama's 4th addresses.

550 soxfan4life  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:02:19am

re: #535 avanti

I hear that scared line repeated over and over, but as a leftie, I know of none that fear Palin. She's a nice gal, I get the regular folks appeal, but we don't fear her as a candidate. Unless she can swing her negative perceptions from outside the base, she'll be a liberals wet dream of a opponent.
By quitting early as governor, it's one just one more attack arrow in a pretty full quiver.

So please tell us what qualities Joe Biden has? Funny how the left puts Joke Biden on the ticket and then do nothing but bad mouth Sarah Palin. She announced she wasn't running for reelction and then said she was stepping down rather than be a lame duck, talk about politics not as usual. It could be a big step toward national office. Or even taking over the RNC and becoming a major fundraiser for other GOP candidates. Then the MSM and libs couldn't criticize her for leaving the state.

551 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:02:29am

re: #535 avanti

It wasn't that long ago that the left used to same logic with Mikey Moore (among other idiots). They figured that since they were under attack they must be geniuses who scare the crap out of the other side. There's a big difference between a threat and an easy target.

552 pingjockey  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:02:43am

Goooood morning! Happy Independence Day Lizard Nation!

553 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:02:45am

re: #541 albusteve

Great minds.............

554 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:03:16am

re: #547 Walter L. Newton
and again...

555 nyc redneck  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:03:44am

re: #478 albusteve

this evening I will drive up into the lower slopes of the Sandia's in my favorite park...not too far up...find a spot to sit and look down and across the valley to the west mesa, 20 miles away...Rio Ranch to the north along the valley to Las Lunas in the south is about 40 miles....millions of orange and white twinkling lights and fireworks up and down the entire valley...it is quite a sight to see...you cannot hear them but the silent explosions have a uniqueness too....New Mexicans are wildly patriotic...it's a different way to celebrate

that sounds magical. i hope you have a wonderful day {albusteve}.

556 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:04:03am

re: #547 Walter L. Newton

Ok, let's assume you have a point on the "fear" factor (clever, huh?).

Then, why do you think certain highly visible personalities on the left have gone after her with rhetoric that is nothing short of ugly. And this sort of vulgar is even worst at the street level. Look at some of the most widely popular progressive blogs and read some of the vile topics and comments that they wrap Palin in?

Why is that happening on the left?

And why are they attacking her in decidedly sexist, and in some cases, sex based ways?


Incest jokes on SNL?
Child for sale on EBay. . .as political prop (hmmm)
Slutty Stwewardess(double points. . .it is fight attendant now)

557 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:04:58am

re: #553 quiet man

Great minds.............

if liberals do not fear Palin then the smears against her must be for enjoyment...pretty sick, and certainly bad for the country as well....liberals are poison

558 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:05:05am

re: #544 That's Mr. President to you

Good thinking! Your poll numbers will surge again..

559 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:05:21am

re: #538 3 wood
Please check your e-mail my friend.

560 Empire1  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:05:37am

Help, please?

My "new" car has a CD player that can handle MP3 format. I know there's MP3 music on the web, but that about exhausts my tech savvy in that field. Can anyone tell me how to put it on a CD for the car? Considering how complicated tech stuff has gotten, I'm guessing it's more than just saving a file to my CD drive.

561 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:05:38am

re: #552 pingjockey
Good morning and happy 4th of july!

562 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:05:51am

re: #549 JCM

Different subject.... Palin.... no sarc tag on that....

We were going back on and forth on Obama's 4th addresses.

RW responded "GAZE" to #485, that's what started it.

563 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:06:11am

re: #550 soxfan4life

So please tell us what qualities Joe Biden has? Funny how the left puts Joke Biden on the ticket and then do nothing but bad mouth Sarah Palin. She announced she wasn't running for reelction and then said she was stepping down rather than be a lame duck, talk about politics not as usual. It could be a big step toward national office. Or even taking over the RNC and becoming a major fundraiser for other GOP candidates. Then the MSM and libs couldn't criticize her for leaving the state.

Maybe she will put all of her energy into running and not keep one office as a fall back. . .shocka!

But- during the election, McCain went back to do his job, while zero claimed he could multitask. . .feh!

564 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:06:24am

re: #556 DisturbedEma

I still use steward/ess. When the hell did the latest Newspeak edition come out anyway?

/ D:

565 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:06:29am

re: #555 nyc redneck

that sounds magical. i hope you have a wonderful day {albusteve}.

thanks, and you as well...maybe someday I'll go up to NYC and celebrate the Fourth...nothing stopping me really

566 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:07:05am

re: #560 Empire1

Help, please?

My "new" car has a CD player that can handle MP3 format. I know there's MP3 music on the web, but that about exhausts my tech savvy in that field. Can anyone tell me how to put it on a CD for the car? Considering how complicated tech stuff has gotten, I'm guessing it's more than just saving a file to my CD drive.

Just burn the MP3's to a CD..No problem....

567 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:07:16am

re: #543 laZardo

re: #536 realwest

We don't why Palin resigned.

I only hope it is not scandal or serious health issues.

It's curious, and dropping out of her first term as gov. doesn't help any future political aspirations. The longer the speculation as to why she resigned is also damaging.

568 pingjockey  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:07:22am

Palin was not attacked becuase she scares the left. She was attacked because she was a conservative Governor, Mom, Hottie, etc...If she had been a donk the slobbering would've been quite vulgar. Hillary never put up with half the BS from the right Palin put up with from the left, ever.

569 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:07:24am

re: #549 JCM

Different subject.... Palin.... no sarc tag on that....

We were going back on and forth on Obama's 4th addresses.

I wasn't.

570 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:07:34am

re: #544 That's Mr. President to you

Happy Independence Day, ya' fucking Commie bastard!

571 soxfan4life  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:07:36am

re: #563 DisturbedEma

Maybe she will put all of her energy into running and not keep one office as a fall back. . .shocka!

But- during the election, McCain went back to do his job, while zero claimed he could multitask. . .feh!


It seemed McCain was more worried about how he would be received by the Senate after he returned from the campaign, than he was about winning.

572 avanti  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:07:52am

re: #540 quiet man

You are entitled to your opinion, for sure, but I believe it really doesnt hold water...unless as a lefty you can explain why she alone of all the unelected VP candidates is still under constant attack from your side.

Myself, I believe she does scare liberals..otherwise, they wouldnt fall to misogyny and all so quickly and fopr so l.ong

She's under constant attack because she's a easy target. To be honest, many on the left don't understand her appeal, and treat her as a joke because she has not performed well on the national stage.
Like it or not, her appeal confuses many outside the base, just as Obama's appeal confuses many on the right. She's just a polarizing figure, loved by the right, not so much by the middle or left.

573 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:07:54am

re: #556 DisturbedEma
You already know the reason..because that "pretty full quiver" isn't one of arrows..it is their lips as they find nastier ways to attack her...they already found out they cannot assail her on the issues.

574 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:08:02am

re: #545 Killgore Trout

Killgore's low and slow lamb shanks......
Make a rub:
Sage, rosemerry, garlic, ginger, curry powder, chilli powder, salt, lemon juice, Worcestershire sauce.

Rub on lamb, grill over low indirect heat (200 degrees) for 6-8 hours turning every hour so so. The meat will just fall off the bone. Yum!

Lamb!

You're baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.

575 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:08:03am

re: #552 pingjockey

Goooood morning! Happy Independence Day Lizard Nation!

To you as well!

576 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:08:15am

re: #564 laZardo

I still use steward/ess. When the hell did the latest Newspeak edition come out anyway?

/ D:

I do too, but my much more enlightened friends on the Left remind me that "flight attendant is not sexist and therefor the prefered term.

577 nyc redneck  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:08:23am

re: #565 albusteve

thanks, and you as well...maybe someday I'll go up to NYC and celebrate the Fourth...nothing stopping me really

let me know.

578 FrogMarch  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:08:55am

re: #544 That's Mr. President to you

This idea - the idea of clearing an area, holding it, and denying the enemy a base of operations - is unprecedented in all of history.

Oh how I worship you, holy Obama. Your ideas are so fresh and new.

579 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:09:15am

re: #570 MandyManners

Happy Independence Day, ya' fucking Commie bastard!

LOL
I was waiting...waiting...where the hell is Mandy?
*wink*
/Thank you by the way

580 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:09:16am

And my girlfriend, her daughter and I will be watching the Golden fireworks from the glass enclosed lobby of my theatre, Miners Alley Playhouse. The second floor lobby and lounge looks out southwest to Lookout Mountain, and is a perfect bug free, air conditioned viewing platform.

Sort of like your own personal fireworks Sky Box.

581 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:09:18am

re: #562 VegasRick

RW responded "GAZE" to #485, that's what started it.

I blame it all on Killgore!

Now that Cog's gone, we only have KT!

/;-)

He posted the scandal sheet!

582 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:09:43am

re: #571 soxfan4life

It seemed McCain was more worried about how he would be received by the Senate after he returned from the campaign, than he was about winning.

I guess, but it spoke to his priorities. . .and I liked that he put his current job above seeking a different one. . .

583 jorline  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:10:04am

Good morning all and Happy 4th of July.

During a time in our nations history when we see our economic, business and personal freedoms shrinking it's comforting to know I can come to LGF, where freedom soars and personal growth is encouraged.

Thank you Charles for supplying and maintaining the LGF flagpole.

It's funny how my perspectives have changed...after the past six months I'm looking for a little Hope & Change.

584 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:10:09am

re: #560 Empire1

Help, please?

My "new" car has a CD player that can handle MP3 format. I know there's MP3 music on the web, but that about exhausts my tech savvy in that field. Can anyone tell me how to put it on a CD for the car? Considering how complicated tech stuff has gotten, I'm guessing it's more than just saving a file to my CD drive.

Nope, if the CD player can play MP3, just copy what ever MP3 files you want to a CD and you're good to go.

585 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:10:24am

re: #572 avanti

She's under constant attack because she's a easy target. To be honest, many on the left don't understand her appeal, and treat her as a joke because she has not performed well on the national stage.
Like it or not, her appeal confuses many outside the base, just as Obama's appeal confuses many on the right. She's just a polarizing figure, loved by the right, not so much by the middle or left.

that's just sick...and it defies common decency...too bad you cannot think it through to understand why...put yourself in a similar situation...your problem is your twisted view of reality

586 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:10:33am

re: #581 JCM

I blame it all on Killgore!

Now that Cog's gone, we only have KT!

/;-)

He posted the scandal sheet!


What? When did Cog go?

587 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:10:40am

re: #569 realwest

I wasn't.

Yep, two conversations gettin' intertwined.....

588 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:10:59am

re: #572 avanti

She told it like it was against the Obamesiah..I will never forget her line about his speech's never including the word victory unless he was speaking of himself

589 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:11:04am

re: #578 FrogMarch

HE MAKES EVERYTHING NEW.

/ O_O

590 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:11:11am

re: #576 DisturbedEma

I do too, but my much more enlightened friends on the Left remind me that "flight attendant is not sexist and therefor the prefered term.

I like sex.........oh, wait........you said sexIST.....nevermind!

591 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:11:16am

re: #586 DisturbedEma

What? When did Cog go?

Banned....... again......

592 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:11:45am

re: #585 albusteve

She's under constant attack because she's a easy target. To be honest, many on the left don't understand her appeal, and treat her as a joke because she has not performed well on the national stage.
Like it or not, her appeal confuses many outside the base, just as Obama's appeal confuses many on the right. She's just a polarizing figure, loved by the right, not so much by the middle or left.

that's just sick...and it defies common decency...too bad you cannot think it through to understand why...put yourself in a similar situation...your problem is your twisted view of reality

I saw her speak during the campaign. . .she did very well with the people in the crowd. . .

593 jorline  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:11:48am

re: #579 HoosierHoops

LOL
I was waiting...waiting...where the hell is Mandy?
*wink*
/Thank you by the way

Morning Hoopster...Palin was talking hoops yesterday.

594 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:12:09am

re: #576 DisturbedEma

I do too, but my much more enlightened friends on the Left remind me that "flight attendant is not sexist and therefor the prefered term.

You know the non-sexist term for the mailman don't you?

Person Person.

595 avanti  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:12:16am

re: #550 soxfan4life

So please tell us what qualities Joe Biden has? Funny how the left puts Joke Biden on the ticket and then do nothing but bad mouth Sarah Palin. She announced she wasn't running for reelction and then said she was stepping down rather than be a lame duck, talk about politics not as usual. It could be a big step toward national office. Or even taking over the RNC and becoming a major fundraiser for other GOP candidates. Then the MSM and libs couldn't criticize her for leaving the state.

I'm in no position to argue against Palin as a GOP candidate, that up to the right. I only object because I'd like a stronger GOP and IMHO she's a weak and polarizing candidate.

596 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:12:24am

re: #581 JCM Hey my friend, kindly check your e-mail.

597 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:12:33am

re: #565 albusteve

thanks, and you as well...maybe someday I'll go up to NYC and celebrate the Fourth...nothing stopping me really

You ever been to the Indy500? My Company has a suite at the track..
A ton of us trash the place on fast Friday and drink and eat free then wander around looking for Danica and Duno... It's a fun weekend Steve...

598 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:12:34am

re: #577 nyc redneck

let me know.

that's generous...I certainly will....I love that town, it's so fun to be a tourista up there! especially for a hayseed like myself :)

599 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:12:35am

re: #590 VegasRick

I like sex.........oh, wait........you said sexIST.....nevermind!

:)

600 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:12:43am

re: #590 VegasRick

Just never call one a waitress..even in humor!

believe me, I KNOW!

601 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:13:23am

re: #591 JCM

Banned....... again......

NOW what did he do? Wait, not sure I wanna know!

602 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:13:45am

re: #591 JCM

Banned....... again......

In all 57 states.

603 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:13:59am

re: #601 DisturbedEma
He insulted Charles. Among other things.

604 J.D.  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:14:04am

re: #568 pingjockey

Palin was not attacked becuase she scares the left. She was attacked because she was a conservative Governor, Mom, Hottie, etc...If she had been a donk the slobbering would've been quite vulgar. Hillary never put up with half the BS from the right Palin put up with from the left, ever.


Very true.

Cutting bait [Mark Steyn]

With respect to many of the Palinologists below, I think they're getting way too hepatomantic over the entrails.

As a political move for anything other than the 2010 Senate race, today's announcement is a disaster. And I'm not sure it's a plus for the Senate - and, even if it were, the manner and timing suggest it was not a professionally planned event and therefore is unlikely to have any grand strategy behind it.

So Occam's Razor leaves us with: Who needs this?

In states far from the national spotlight, politics still attracts normal people. You're a mayor or a state senator or even the governor, but you lead a normal life. The local media are tough on you, but they know you, they live where you live, they're tough on the real you, not on some caricature cooked up by a malign alliance of late-night comics who'd never heard of you a week earlier and media grandees supposedly on your own side who pronounce you a "cancer".

Then suddenly you get the call from Washington. You know it'll mean Secret Service, and speechwriters, and minders vetting your wardrobe. But nobody said it would mean a mainstream network comedy host doing statutory rape gags about your 14-year old daughter. You've got a special-needs kid and a son in Iraq and a daughter who's given you your first grandchild in less than ideal circumstances. That would be enough for most of us. But the special-needs kid and the daughter and most everyone else you love are a national joke, and the PC enforcers are entirely cool with it.

Most of those who sneer at Sarah Palin have no desire to live her life. But why not try to - what's the word? - "empathize"? If you like Wasilla and hunting and snowmachining and moose stew and politics, is the last worth giving up everything else in the hopes that one day David Letterman and Maureen Dowd might decide Trig and Bristol and the rest are sufficiently non-risible to enable you to prosper in their world? And, putting aside the odds, would you really like to be the person you'd have to turn into under that scenario?

National office will dwindle down to the unhealthily singleminded (Clinton, Obama), the timeserving emirs of Incumbistan (Biden, McCain) and dynastic heirs (Bush). Our loss.

605 Bobblehead  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:14:24am

Happy 4th of July lizard patriots!

606 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:14:29am

re: #548 quiet man

Yes, our basic freedoms are under attack from the left every day. This is what happens when a party doesn't care about who they put up for election, only what. Tho in my experience liberals usually do not worry about who someone is, only what.

I believe that the new Democrats knew exactly whom they wanted to run for president. Don't forget Soros' early fund-raising efforts for FCBBHO.

Another link.

The DNC could've thwarted Soros early on but, the extreme lefties wanetd him.

607 soxfan4life  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:14:34am

Good day all, enjoy your freedom and independence.

608 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:14:38am

re: #595 avanti
We need a polarizing candidate..really. We tried the inclusion part, then the rino part...now it is time for someone who can hit the 3 pointers

609 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:14:47am

re: #572 avanti

She's under constant attack because she's a easy target. To be honest, many on the left don't understand her appeal, and treat her as a joke because she has not performed well on the national stage.
Like it or not, her appeal confuses many outside the base, just as Obama's appeal confuses many on the right. She's just a polarizing figure, loved by the right, not so much by the middle or left.

So, you are saying that progressives are confused, polarized and don't understand her.

And because she is an "easy target," that means that grown men and woman, liberal politicians included, have some sort of obligation to treat her like pond scum?

Glad you cleared that up for me. You don't think to highly of your liberal brothers and sisters, do you?

610 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:14:49am

re: #593 jorline

Morning Hoopster...Palin was talking hoops yesterday.

She won a state Championship in High School as a point...
I could never say that....I admire that woman.

611 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:15:36am

re: #579 HoosierHoops

LOL
I was waiting...waiting...where the hell is Mandy?
*wink*
/Thank you by the way

You're quite welcome.

612 nyc redneck  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:15:44am

the national stage is open for sarah now.
she can really help to rid us of the commies in 2010.
all the ankle biting libs and the cowardly msm know this. she is their greatest threat now. they will find every way to attack her. i hope so actually.
all the attention will galvanize a lot of americans who are witnessing o destroy our country and these voters w/ buyer;s remorse will be listening to sarah's sound conservative message.
it will make sense to them like never before.
she will help bring the change we have been waiting for.

613 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:16:06am

re: #592 DisturbedEma

I saw her speak during the campaign. . .she did very well with the people in the crowd. . .

I don't view her situation in terms of popularity or electability or polls or any of that sort of thing, like avanti does...I see as a person, a decent woman who was smeared simply for the delight of it by the left, as avanti just stated (in so many words)....liberals suck

614 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:16:52am

Heh, I was googling to find an old Koskidz diary and found this link....
Cheap Flights to Kos (KGS) from Kilgore

615 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:17:16am

re: #604 J.D.
Hey {J.D.} Happy Fourth of July to you. Hope you're doing well today!

616 Bobblehead  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:17:40am

re: #613 albusteve

I don't view her situation in terms of popularity or electability or polls or any of that sort of thing, like avanti does...I see as a person, a decent woman who was smeared simply for the delight of it by the left, as avanti just stated (in so many words)....liberals suck

Agreed!

617 nyc redneck  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:17:44am

re: #598 albusteve

that's generous...I certainly will....I love that town, it's so fun to be a tourista up there! especially for a hayseed like myself :)

i'm , still a hayseed and i've been here for 25 yrs.

618 avanti  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:18:07am

re: #592 DisturbedEma

I saw her speak during the campaign. . .she did very well with the people in the crowd. . .

Exactly, the crowd from the base loved her. I recall folks on the right thinking Palin did well in the debates, while the middle and left did not, it's all about left/right perceptions.

619 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:18:07am

Franken and Soros.

Hat tip to Killian Bundy.

620 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:18:22am

re: #606 MandyManners
You may be right..but I have a problem believing it. All those kid voters..it wasn't socialism they wanted..It wasn't weakness against murderers they voted for.

If we had a media, at least there might have been some choice besides the first black President or the first tortured in Nam president

621 jorline  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:18:39am

re: #614 Killgore Trout

Heh, I was googling to find an old Koskidz diary and found this link....
Cheap Flights to Kos (KGS) from Kilgore

Book early...space is limited.

Morning KT.

622 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:18:54am

re: #594 JCM

You know the non-sexist term for the mailman don't you?

Person Person.


:)

623 J.D.  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:19:06am

re: #615 realwest

Hi {real! I'm doing fine! And you? What's your day shaping up to be?
I'm probably cooking a steak out and some veggies and going down to the beach to watch the fireworks.

624 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:19:11am

re: #609 Walter L. Newton

So, you are saying that progressives are confused, polarized and don't understand her.

And because she is an "easy target," that means that grown men and woman, liberal politicians included, have some sort of obligation to treat her like pond scum?

Glad you cleared that up for me. You don't think to highly of your liberal brothers and sisters, do you?


Good morning Walter! That's really ok, cause I don't think very highly of them either.
Happy news about the GF and the move and a Happy Fourth of July to you!

625 J.D.  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:19:25am

{real}
Full huggie.

626 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:19:32am

re: #597 HoosierHoops

You ever been to the Indy500? My Company has a suite at the track..
A ton of us trash the place on fast Friday and drink and eat free then wander around looking for Danica and Duno... It's a fun weekend Steve...

went to the final day of trials once...lots of people! whoa!....never saw the race itself...another time I took the little bus around the track...that was a delight...looking down the front straightaway like a tunnel...press towers and whatever on the inside and the stands looming on the outside...so narrow!...yikes!

627 jorline  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:19:52am

Good morning RW...I hope this Independence Day finds you well my friend.

628 FrogMarch  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:20:03am

re: #619 MandyManners

Franken and Soros.

Hat tip to Killian Bundy.

Figures. George Soros should be behind bars. Soros rapes and wrecks the world's financial systems and then uses the money to promote socialist democrats.

Disgusting.

629 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:20:22am

re: #624 realwest

Good morning Walter! That's really ok, cause I don't think very highly of them either.
Happy news about the GF and the move and a Happy Fourth of July to you!

Thanks.

630 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:20:28am

May I add that Palin seemed to stand for just about everything Bush stood for, or rather what people perceived Bush stood for, even more so than McCain. Why wouldn't that attract animosity?

/there, I said it.

631 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:21:11am

re: #607 soxfan4life

Good day all, enjoy your freedom and independence.

while it lasts. . .

632 FrogMarch  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:21:17am

re: #589 laZardo

HE MAKES EVERYTHING NEW.

/ O_O

O-O
ack!

633 J.D.  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:21:32am

re: #619 MandyManners

Franken and Soros.

Hat tip to Killian Bundy.

Imagine being in the same room with both Gore and Soros. I'm gasping for air just thinking about it.

634 Empire1  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:21:41am

re: #566 HoosierHoops

Just burn the MP3's to a CD..No problem....

Er ... how? Is it a simple save-to-CD-drive, or do I need a special "burn" program, or what? I'm an old DOS dinosaur, I don't know all this new-fangled stuff!

635 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:21:44am

re: #628 FrogMarch

Figures. George Soros should be behind bars. Soros rapes and wrecks the world's financial systems and then uses the money to promote socialist democrats.

Disgusting.

Soros put the "scum" in "scumbag".

636 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:21:50am

re: #623 J.D. Hey, what's with the one handed hug, huh? You're arm and shoulder still painful?
Today is shaping up just fine, thank you very much!

637 pingjockey  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:21:58am

re: #604 J.D.
Steyn nailed it. People of quality, who we'd like to have run for office will see this shit and think, why bother? Why put up with msm lies, BS, etc...If she isn't going to run for senate and just stay home, good for her. As for the political class, we now have what the founders didn't want, a ruling class. See Kennedy, Sheets Byrd, etc..No quality, or character.

638 Bobblehead  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:22:00am
639 avanti  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:22:14am

OK, later guys and gals, beer and cook out food calls. Have a wonderful 4th and lift a beer in tribute to this great country with me.

640 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:22:16am

re: #617 nyc redneck

i'm , still a hayseed and i've been here for 25 yrs.

tis not a bad thing....grumpy New Yorkers don't bother me at all for example!...

641 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:22:37am

re: #627 jorline Good morning jorline! Happy Independence Day to you!
Uh, if you can, would you mind dropping me an e-mail?

642 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:22:47am

Remember when the lefties were depressed and anrgy on July 4th? The times have changed.....
Storm Clouds on the Fourth of July

I don’t think I’ve ever seen my country so divided and depressed on the Fourth of July in my lifetime.....
But don’t get me wrong - I love my country. And maybe it’s because I love it so much that I am so depressed. Yes, I know it’s always darkest before the dawn and all that.
...
And speaking of “lived experience,” the darkest times call for the biggest parties. Get drunk and boogie. It may be your last opportunity.


A-boo-hooo-hooo!

643 FrogMarch  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:23:25am

re: #635 VegasRick

Soros put the "scum" in "scumbag".

Indeed. There aren't enough jars of mayonnaise.

644 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:23:53am
645 d1carter  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:24:09am

OT:
The next three weeks are the Tour de France...

646 DisturbedEma  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:24:17am

re: #630 laZardo

May I add that Palin seemed to stand for just about everything Bush stood for, or rather what people perceived Bush stood for, even more so than McCain. Why wouldn't that attract animosity?

/there, I said it.

But sputter sputter. . .even zero is doing the same as Bush. . .right down to the surge. . .cap n trade was just a way of throwing down to the left. . .ignore that man behind the curtain. . .lookit the shiney happy bill!

there I said it

647 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:24:30am

re: #635 VegasRick

Soros put is the "scum" in "scumbag".

There, FTFY.

648 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:24:34am

re: #639 avanti

OK, later guys and gals, beer and cook out food calls. Have a wonderful 4th and lift a beer in tribute to this great country with me.

I'd rather die of thirst than drink with you...

649 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:24:45am

re: #638 Bobblehead

Honduras to OAS: Pound sand, take 2

I love it! The only thing that would have been better is if someone would have publicly told 0 to go fuck off.

650 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:24:51am

re: #596 realwest

Hey my friend, kindly check your e-mail.

RW,

Replied.

Do you have Dustoff's email? He'd be another good sources.

651 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:24:54am

re: #626 albusteve

went to the final day of trials once...lots of people! whoa!....never saw the race itself...another time I took the little bus around the track...that was a delight...looking down the front straightaway like a tunnel...press towers and whatever on the inside and the stands looming on the outside...so narrow!...yikes!

Consider yourself invited...It's a blast!

652 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:24:59am

re: #642 Killgore Trout

another one....
The End of Independence Day?

Obama's campaign to erase individuality and ambition reminds me of my old life in communist Slovenia.

Heh.

653 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:25:03am

re: #639 avanti

You too..happy 4th..

long may she wave!

654 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:25:05am

re: #620 quiet man

You may be right..but I have a problem believing it. All those kid voters..it wasn't socialism they wanted..It wasn't weakness against murderers they voted for.

If we had a media, at least there might have been some choice besides the first black President or the first tortured in Nam president

Those kids have been educated by a system held hostage by the NEA.

Have you ever heard of Antonio Gramsci?

655 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:25:10am

This takes the cake...

Vice President Joe Biden celebrated American patriotism during a Fourth of July visit to Iraq today. He presided at a naturalization ceremony at one of Saddam Hussein's former palaces, where 237 U.S. service members were sworn in as American citizens. "We did it in Saddam's palace and I can think of nothing better. That S.O.B. is rolling over in his grave right now," Biden said.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

You jerk, you couldn't even be standing there with you balls attached if it wasn't for those men and the Bush administration.

Gosh, if I had know that brain dead plus breathing equaled politician, I would have run for public office when I was drinking myself stupid.

656 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:25:47am

re: #634 Empire1

Er ... how? Is it a simple save-to-CD-drive, or do I need a special "burn" program, or what? I'm an old DOS dinosaur, I don't know all this new-fangled stuff!

It's easy..What Computer are you running?

657 J.D.  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:25:57am

re: #630 laZardo

They're beginning to appreciate W now in Europe.
Who'd have thunk it?

658 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:25:57am

re: #628 FrogMarch

Figures. George Soros should be behind bars. Soros rapes and wrecks the world's financial systems and then uses the money to promote socialist democrats.

Disgusting.

That's the most concise description of the man that I've ever read.

659 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:26:03am

re: #639 avanti

OK, later guys and gals, beer and cook out food calls. Have a wonderful 4th and lift a beer in tribute to this great country with me.

And he flounced away without answering the questions we put to him about Palin. Just for the record.

660 Bobblehead  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:26:18am

re: #649 VegasRick

I love it! The only thing that would have been better is if someone would have publicly told 0 to go fuck off.

Now that would be totally justified and most enjoyable.

661 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:26:38am

re: #633 J.D.

Imagine being in the same room with both Gore and Soros. I'm gasping for air just thinking about it.

The evil would choke a horse.

662 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:26:59am

re: #647 realwest

There, FTFY.

Thank you! MUCH better!

663 pingjockey  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:27:06am

re: #647 realwest
He really reminds me of the communist appartachiks(sp). I am one of the elite and deserve all this special perks etc. Y'all are the GUM, and don't deserve anything but a shit sandwhich.
GUM = Great Unwashed Masses

664 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:27:08am

re: #645 d1carter

OT:
The next three weeks are the Tour de France...

TIGHT BUTTS DRIVE ME NUTS!

665 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:27:09am

re: #659 Walter L. Newton

And he flounced away without answering the questions we put to him about Palin. Just for the record.

It's overcast and raining here...The BBQ is on standby

666 jorline  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:27:09am

re: #641 realwest

Good morning jorline! Happy Independence Day to you!
Uh, if you can, would you mind dropping me an e-mail?

With pleasure. I'm leaving with the family right now...get it to you this afternoon.

667 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:27:13am

Good morning Lizards and Happy Independence Day. I'd like to thank the Good Lord (and my great grandparents) for allowing my family to live in the United States of America: the greatest country in the history of this planet.

668 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:27:15am

re: #648 albusteve

awww c'mon... If we cannot laugh and have a drink as we talk, then we are forgetting the past of this great country.

We have real enemies in this world...liberals are just "easy targets" **grin**

669 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:27:34am

re: #648 albusteve

I'd rather die of thirst than drink with you...

I know you are not kidding but that was fucking FUNNY!

670 J.D.  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:27:53am

re: #661 MandyManners

The evil would choke a horse.

I know!

671 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:28:08am

re: #651 HoosierHoops

Consider yourself invited...It's a blast!

thanks amigo...when I get healthy again I intend on a long road trip...go up to MI, pick up my pimpmobile and head out...it could be anywhere at anytime...life is good like that, driving around and seeing America close up is my favorite thing to do...I might just pop in!

672 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:28:25am

re: #664 MandyManners

Is Lance racing this year or is he retired?

673 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:28:55am

re: #654 MandyManners
No, but I am with you on the indoctrination part..My boys have stood up to teachers trying to put crap in their heads..One of my sons walked out after a 1/2 hour of Bushisms and I had to speak to the principal about it.

But I didnt back down an inch in my defense.

674 jorline  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:28:59am

bbl

Don't start drinking the beer until I get back...promise
/

675 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:29:09am

re: #655 Walter L. Newton

This takes the cake...

Vice President Joe Biden celebrated American patriotism during a Fourth of July visit to Iraq today. He presided at a naturalization ceremony at one of Saddam Hussein's former palaces, where 237 U.S. service members were sworn in as American citizens. "We did it in Saddam's palace and I can think of nothing better. That S.O.B. is rolling over in his grave right now," Biden said.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

You jerk, you couldn't even be standing there with you balls attached if it wasn't for those men and the Bush administration.

Gosh, if I had know that brain dead plus breathing equaled politician, I would have run for public office when I was drinking myself stupid.

Boogie down, Walter.


676 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:29:28am

re: #657 J.D.

Either because they have right-wing-ish leaders (Merkel, Berlusconi, Sarkozy) now or they are snickering that Bush was a closet liberal?

/hmm...

678 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:29:47am

re: #659 Walter L. Newton

And he flounced away without answering the questions we put to him about Palin. Just for the record.

Ali might be proud of the duck and weave.

679 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:30:56am

re: #671 albusteve

thanks amigo...when I get healthy again I intend on a long road trip...go up to MI, pick up my pimpmobile and head out...it could be anywhere at anytime...life is good like that, driving around and seeing America close up is my favorite thing to do...I might just pop in!

Look forward to it....Drop in anytime....

680 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:31:05am

re: #678 MandyManners
If they had answers, then they would use them instead of attackingt her kids and her looks.

Pelosi has a bunch of kids and no one ever says a word about them

681 Bobblehead  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:31:25am

re: #678 MandyManners

How are you doing Miss Mandy?

682 Ateam  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:31:29am

Giving Ms. O Pic. [Link: blogs.pitch.com...]
and as an eager fan of women, I find your first lady needed to improve and change a little, in order to become hopefully a fashion symbol.
Hair, earrings, eye-shadow, make-up, lipstick, necklace, bracelet, and of course - gown & shoes.
Small, silver made (or titanium. NOT gold), jewelry will fit her dark skin.
Long, solid, one-colored (like navy blue/raw umber/upsdell red, etc) gown, with fluffy sleeves, will do good consider her tallness. I'll recommended trousers & long-sleeved loosed blouse (solve some structural shortcomings
with one outfit).

683 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:31:40am

and there has to be a reason for it..*L*

684 J.D.  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:31:45am

re: #676 laZardo

Either because they have right-wing-ish leaders (Merkel, Berlusconi, Sarkozy) now or they are snickering that Bush was a closet liberal?

/hmm...

A lot of them are fed up with where they are with respect to healthcare, employment, etc., granted. And compared to Obama, even Bush compares favorably... in retrospect.

685 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:32:19am

re: #677 Killgore Trout

Armstrong takes early lead in Tour's first stage

French seethe.

686 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:32:21am

re: #675 MandyManners

You always bring the fun toys to the party.

687 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:32:41am

re: #655 Walter L. Newton

This takes the cake...

Vice President Joe Biden celebrated American patriotism during a Fourth of July visit to Iraq today. He presided at a naturalization ceremony at one of Saddam Hussein's former palaces, where 237 U.S. service members were sworn in as American citizens. "We did it in Saddam's palace and I can think of nothing better. That S.O.B. is rolling over in his grave right now," Biden said.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

You jerk, you couldn't even be standing there with you balls attached if it wasn't for those men and the Bush administration.

Gosh, if I had know that brain dead plus breathing equaled politician, I would have run for public office when I was drinking myself stupid.


Bravo Walter ... agree 100%. Also, did you see that al Maliki basically told Biden to fuck off yesterday when he "offered" to help the Iraqis with reconciliation. I guess "Plugs" though the Iraqis would forget that during the 2008 campaign, Biden advocated breaking Iraq up into three pieces: sunni, shiite, and Kurd. I don't blame al Maliki for telling him to stuff it.

688 freedombilly  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:32:54am

re: #634 Empire1

Er ... how? Is it a simple save-to-CD-drive, or do I need a special "burn" program, or what? I'm an old DOS dinosaur, I don't know all this new-fangled stuff!

There have to be people on this forum that know more than I do about this but I'll give it a shot:

You obviously need a CD burner in your computer. If you have one of those you can download the iTunes program for free from Apple. Right click on the mp3 file you want to burn and choose "Open With" and select "iTunes". This should start playing the file within iTunes.

Now hit the plus button at the lower left corner of the iTunes window which will "Create a Playlist". Name it whatever you want. Then go back to the top of the left column and select "Music" which will bring up your iTunes library again. Drag and click the mp3 file from within iTunes to the Playlist you just created and named.

Now insert a blank CD. Click on the playlist and there will be a "Burn CD" button at the bottom right of your screen. There will be a couple of menus that pop that you can just keep as the defaults that come up.

You should then have a CD that will play in your car of the mp3 file. Hopefully this makes sense.

Good luck!

689 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:33:06am

re: #655 Walter L. Newton

I read that...what a two faced asshole

690 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:33:59am

re: #652 Killgore Trout

Me and my contemporaries' vision of The American Dream:

/it's an entertaining vision, to be frank

691 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:34:26am

re: #650 JCM
Received and replied to my friend!

692 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:34:35am

re: #687 _RememberTonyC

Kerry did the same thing, the dick....Biden, like all libs wants to pretend that what they say during an election is meaningless outside the country

after the election it is inside the country that what they say is meaningless.

693 Ateam  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:35:25am

Giving this Pic. [Link: blogs.pitch.com...]
and as an eager fan of women, I find your first lady needed to improve and change a little, in order to become hopefully a fashion symbol.
Hair, earrings, eye-shadow, make-up, lipstick, necklace, bracelet, and of course - gown & shoes.
Small, silver made (or titanium. NOT gold), jewelry will fit her dark skin.
Long, solid, one-colored (like navy blue/raw umber/upsdell red, etc) gown, with fluffy sleeves, will do good consider her tallness. I'll recommended trousers & long-sleeved loosed blouse (solve some structural shortcomings
with one outfit).

694 quiet man  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:36:38am

I must away

have fun lizards!

695 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:37:20am

re: #684 J.D.

THAT'S WHY THEY'RE TURNING TO THE FACSITS.

/ q;

696 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:37:26am

re: #693 Ateam

Giving this Pic. [Link: blogs.pitch.com...]
and as an eager fan of women, I find your first lady needed to improve and change a little, in order to become hopefully a fashion symbol.
Hair, earrings, eye-shadow, make-up, lipstick, necklace, bracelet, and of course - gown & shoes.
Small, silver made (or titanium. NOT gold), jewelry will fit her dark skin.
Long, solid, one-colored (like navy blue/raw umber/upsdell red, etc) gown, with fluffy sleeves, will do good consider her tallness. I'll recommended trousers & long-sleeved loosed blouse (solve some structural shortcomings
with one outfit).

Reposted for what? Were you actually expecting a response? Who gives a shit about WAB and her fashion.

697 Empire1  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:37:40am

re: #656 HoosierHoops

It's easy..What Computer are you running?

It's an emachines W3118 desktop running XP Home. Not quite 3 years old.
80 GB hard drive (mostly empty), and CD rewritable/DVD ROM drive.

698 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:37:52am

re: #663 pingjockey
Hi there ping! Happy Fourth of July to you my friend!
And I agree with you completely.

699 nyc redneck  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:38:34am

re: #655 Walter L. Newton

This takes the cake...

Vice President Joe Biden celebrated American patriotism during a Fourth of July visit to Iraq today. He presided at a naturalization ceremony at one of Saddam Hussein's former palaces, where 237 U.S. service members were sworn in as American citizens. "We did it in Saddam's palace and I can think of nothing better. That S.O.B. is rolling over in his grave right now," Biden said.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

You jerk, you couldn't even be standing there with you balls attached if it wasn't for those men and the Bush administration.

Gosh, if I had know that brain dead plus breathing equaled politician, I would have run for public office when I was drinking myself stupid.

o was spewing the other day, trying to take credit and put the focus on himself. he didn't even mention pres. bush when he said w/ a straight face that 'those who tried to pull iraq into the abyss of civil war are on the wrong side of history.'
LOL
how many times has o said we can't win, it was a mistake, the surge won't work, we need to cut and run? ? ? so many fcking dems put our troops in grave danger as they undermined the war effort.
and now they begin to take credit.
our troops have over come every obstacle in this war and that includes everything the dems did to harm them and the effort they were making to bring freedom to iraq.
.

700 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:39:00am

re: #687 _RememberTonyC

Bravo Walter ... agree 100%. Also, did you see that al Maliki basically told Biden to fuck off yesterday when he "offered" to help the Iraqis with reconciliation. I guess "Plugs" though the Iraqis would forget that during the 2008 campaign, Biden advocated breaking Iraq up into three pieces: sunni, shiite, and Kurd. I don't blame al Maliki for telling him to stuff it.

Didn't see that. But, it endemic, the way these politicians, most politicians, are running slipshod over truth and decency.

If a statement, a position or a change in opinion works for the moment, gets you what you want, then everything else be damned.

It's going to catch up with these kleptocrats. They are stealing us blind, financially, morally and putting this country into a dire strait that will be ripe picking for a madman.

701 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:39:13am

re: #690 laZardo

I love the GTA games. This past one was good but I was hoping for more. One thing that annoyed me the most is that Niko talks about wanting money in every cut scene but money in the game itself was useless. The cell phone was a coll addition but it quickly got annoying. When I'm beating hookers with a baseball bat the last thing I want is someone nagging me to go bowling. They also softened the game a bit, and the rags to riches theme is getting a little predictable. I'd really like to see them give up the Scarface type story line and go for a more Clockwork Orange theme.

702 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:39:18am

re: #673 quiet man

No, but I am with you on the indoctrination part..My boys have stood up to teachers trying to put crap in their heads..One of my sons walked out after a 1/2 hour of Bushisms and I had to speak to the principal about it.

But I didnt back down an inch in my defense.

Somewhere in my 2,000+ links, I have a few about Gramsci. I'll look when I have more time.

This is worth investigating. This man's work was all about gradualism and bringing freedom to its knees.

703 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:39:47am

re: #699 nyc redneck

o was spewing the other day, trying to take credit and put the focus on himself. he didn't even mention pres. bush when he said w/ a straight face that 'those who tried to pull iraq into the abyss of civil war are on the wrong side of history.'
LOL
how many times has o said we can't win, it was a mistake, the surge won't work, we need to cut and run? ? ? so many fcking dems put our troops in grave danger as they undermined the war effort.
and now they begin to take credit.
our troops have over come every obstacle in this war and that includes everything the dems did to harm them and the effort they were making to bring freedom to iraq.
.

Harry Ried has been deafeningly quiet. Fuckhead.

704 swamprat  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:40:09am

Happy Unilateralism Day, everyone!


Commie-speak seeks to give bad connotations to otherwise noble concepts:

Unilateral=Independent

Chauvanism=patriotism(No, really. The feminist adopted this, but it originally refered to Nicolas Chauvin, who was slightly to the right of Attilla the hun.

705 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:40:09am

re: #672 Killgore Trout

Is Lance racing this year or is he retired?

I have no idea. All I know is that tight butts drive me nuts.

706 pingjockey  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:40:11am

re: #698 realwest
He would love to see a quasisocialist, commie lite gov't. The fucking elites and the peons. Didn't Soros just about wreck the British pound with manipulating the EUs money system?

707 J.D.  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:40:56am

re: #703 VegasRick

Harry Ried has been deafeningly quiet. Fuckhead.

That's it!
I knew something had improved...couldn't put my finger on it...

708 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:41:17am

re: #680 quiet man

If they had answers, then they would use them instead of attackingt her kids and her looks.

Pelosi has a bunch of kids and no one ever says a word about them

Some kids are more sacred than others.

709 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:41:43am

re: #707 J.D.

That's it!
I knew something had improved...couldn't put my finger on it...

LOL! He could have at least said that he was wrong.

710 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:41:50am

re: #681 Bobblehead

How are you doing Miss Mandy?

Finer than a frog's hair split three ways. How are you?

711 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:42:12am

re: #697 Empire1

It's an emachines W3118 desktop running XP Home. Not quite 3 years old.
80 GB hard drive (mostly empty), and CD rewritable/DVD ROM drive.

If I recall Emachines come preloaded with Roxio software...But even if that's not the case....You have some burn software preinstalled...
Just burn the MP3's to disk....
Explore the menu and post again..

712 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:42:20am

re: #684 J.D.

A lot of them are fed up with where they are with respect to healthcare, employment, etc., granted. And compared to Obama, even Bush compares favorably... in retrospect.


Not to mention that with Obama in office, they have suddenly realized that the U.S.A. isn't going to defend them militarily and their socialist governments are going to have to find a way to pay for their own national defense.
And fining Microsoft and Intel isn't gonna yield anything like enough money!

713 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:42:25am

re: #686 Walter L. Newton

You always bring the fun toys to the party.

Don't forget the Basil!

714 Bobblehead  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:42:27am

re: #680 quiet man

If they had answers, then they would use them instead of attackingt her kids and her looks.

Pelosi has a bunch of kids and no one ever says a word about them

She is a beautiful, wildly competent woman with a good looking, hardworking husband. She has lovely children, she speaks her mind and lives simply. She is a conservative. I think the left hates her and is jealous of her at the same time.

715 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:42:44am

Morning.

OK, I just finished listening to Obama's July 4th address. Overall it was a boring and partisan towards the end and amounted to a Democrat Party candidate "stump speech." He used the speech to sell the Democrat's nationalized health care and the recent Waxmann climate/pork bill. At times it almost reached bitter and divisive proportions:

These are some of the challenges that our generation has been called to meet. And yet, there are those who would have us try what has already failed; who would defend the status quo. They argue that our health care system is fine the way it is and that a clean energy economy can wait. They say we are trying to do too much, that we are moving too quickly, and that we all ought to just take a deep breath and scale back our goals.

These naysayers have short memories. They forget that we, as a people, did not get here by standing pat in a time of change. We did not get here by doing what was easy. That is not how a cluster of 13 colonies became the United States of America.

Yet there are those/They argue/They say/These naysayers/They forget

Barack Obama's July 4th message: us vs. "them."

1269 days left to go.

716 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:42:46am

re: #705 MandyManners

I have no idea. All I know is that tight butts drive me nuts.

[Link: sports.yahoo.com...]

717 J.D.  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:43:27am

re: #708 MandyManners

Some kids are more sacred than others.

They used to do a joke on Southwest flights when they went through the safety instructions and told you to put your own oxygen first...
"And if you're traveling with two children, next put the mask on the one you feel has the most promise..."

718 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:43:28am

re: #708 MandyManners

Some kids are more sacred than others.

We really should not make fun of the mentally challenge (lib kids).

719 pingjockey  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:43:49am

re: #715 Gus 802
That is all he ever delivers. He is a constant state of campaign.

720 Ateam  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:43:51am

re: #696 VegasRick

a mistake (:

721 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:44:05am

re: #700 Walter L. Newton

Didn't see that. But, it endemic, the way these politicians, most politicians, are running slipshod over truth and decency.

If a statement, a position or a change in opinion works for the moment, gets you what you want, then everything else be damned.

It's going to catch up with these kleptocrats. They are stealing us blind, financially, morally and putting this country into a dire strait that will be ripe picking for a madman.

here's a link to the reconciliation story .... [Link: www.courant.com...]

I share the fear that everything Obama is doing is about buying his reelection in 2012. And he's buying his second term with our money.

722 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:44:12am

re: #706 pingjockey

He would love to see a quasisocialist, commie lite gov't. The fucking elites and the peons. Didn't Soros just about wreck the British pound with manipulating the EUs money system?

That and a bunch of Hungarian pensions IIRC.

The man who broke the Bank of England

723 That's Mr. President to you  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:44:24am

I am not a doctor, but I play one at Press Conferences.

For some time I have been puzzled by the chronic fist-clenching that afflicts the leaders or Iran and the Democratic People's Republic of Korea.

This persistent fist clenching is not rational given my many overtures to these leaders. So I know the behavior cannot be willful - it must be the result of a physical malady. I now have a diagnosis - Advanced Stage Rheumatoid Arthritis.

Because this fist clenching is a medical issue, I am going to be blocking any efforts at the upcoming G8 to impose any new sanctions on Iran. Such sanctions would further impact their health care system rendering it incapable of treating this fist-clenching and thereby threatening world peace.

Rest well Americans - your government is in the most caring of hands.

724 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:44:26am

re: #706 pingjockey

He would love to see a quasisocialist, commie lite gov't. The fucking elites and the peons. Didn't Soros just about wreck the British pound with manipulating the EUs money system?

Yes, he did. He can't step foot in France.

725 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:45:11am

re: #720 Ateam

a mistake (:

Sorry for jumping on you.

726 swamprat  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:45:18am

re: #535 avanti

I hear that scared line repeated over and over, but as a leftie, I know of none that fear Palin. She's a nice gal, I get the regular folks appeal, but we don't fear her as a candidate. Unless she can swing her negative perceptions from outside the base, she'll be a liberals wet dream of a opponent.
By quitting early as governor, it's one just one more attack arrow in a pretty full quiver.

You don't fear her, but people have told you she is a buffoon, over, and over, and over again. A lot of effort has been expended to get this message out. You probably don't wonder why.

727 pingjockey  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:45:25am

re: #722 JCM
That's it. Thanks. BTW, thanks for having the sun out over here on your side of the hill! Up in Burlington this weekend.

728 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:45:39am

re: #701 Killgore Trout

The Clockwork Orange reference reminds me of GTA2 back in '99. Would love to see that sort of atmosphere in full-3D, and not just in custom car mods for the existing PC versions.

729 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:45:48am

re: #716 albusteve

[Link: sports.yahoo.com...]

There is no way Lance can keep up this pace...But if he does..
He would be considered one of the greatest athletes of all time....
There is no way that man can do this..Can he?

730 d1carter  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:45:50am

Levi Leipheimer is currently leading the first time trial. Lance has slipped to third.

731 J.D.  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:45:51am

re: #712 realwest

It seemed to me they were all about us electing O.
I guess he said the right things? ? ?

732 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:46:08am

re: #715 Gus 802

Morning.

OK, I just finished listening to Obama's July 4th address. Overall it was a boring and partisan towards the end and amounted to a Democrat Party candidate "stump speech." He used the speech to sell the Democrat's nationalized health care and the recent Waxmann climate/pork bill. At times it almost reached bitter and divisive proportions:


Yet there are those/They argue/They say/These naysayers/They forget

Barack Obama's July 4th message: us vs. "them."

1269 days left to go.

If he'd been around 233 years ago, he'd have told King George to unclench.

733 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:46:32am

re: #703 VegasRick
"Harry Ried has been deafeningly quiet." You say that as if it's a BAD thing!

734 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:46:33am

re: #719 pingjockey

That is all he ever delivers. He is a constant state of campaign.

Yes. Sort of reminded me of a union speech as well. Like from a bad movie with Obama playing the "shop steward." A lot of this garbage is put together by committee at the White House and I'm sure Axelrod had a say in the wording.

735 pingjockey  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:46:35am

re: #724 MandyManners
Do they have an arrest warrant? Let's grab him and dump him off over there!

736 Empire1  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:46:36am

re: #688 freedombilly

Thanks! I've got that printed out. Now is a "CD burner" whatever it is that lets me simply save things to the CD drive? I've done that a few times, so if "burn" here is a synonym for "save", I'm OK. Otherwise I guess I need some sort of new gadget -- ?

737 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:46:38am

re: #715 Gus 802

yup...good point, if that's the way he wants it then so be it....shit happens eh?

738 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:46:41am

re: #717 J.D.

They used to do a joke on Southwest flights when they went through the safety instructions and told you to put your own oxygen first...
"And if you're traveling with two children, next put the mask on the one you feel has the most promise..."

No shit?

739 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:47:30am

re: #726 swamprat

You don't fear her, but people have told you she is a buffoon, over, and over, and over again. A lot of effort has been expended to get this message out. You probably don't wonder why.

Avanti is gone to drink free beer at a friends house, he left without answering a couple of questions as Walter pointed out.

740 nyc redneck  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:47:42am

re: #703 VegasRick

Harry Ried has been deafeningly quiet. Fuckhead.

they all tried to stop the surge. including o.
a few days ago rush played a ckip of stupid biden speaking somewhere.
the bastard said he was 'going to push the surge down bush's throat.'
these scum also called general petraeus a liar.
such disgusting behavior and unforgivable

741 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:47:47am

re: #718 VegasRick

We really should not make fun of the mentally challenge (lib kids).

Chelsea's not mentally challenged. Neither are the Gore kids. Amy Carter seems okay to me.

742 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:47:59am

re: #737 albusteve

yup...good point, if that's the way he wants it then so be it....shit happens eh?

Shit does happen. If anyone were to ask me about the "speech" I'd tell them not to bother listening.

743 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:48:00am

re: #719 pingjockey

That is all he ever delivers. He is a constant state of campaign.

You probably have, but he views everything through the lens of Alinksy, Cloward and Piven tactics. It's about how to rectify perceived economic and social injustices by consolidation of power. The tactics he uses, how he frames the arguement how he attacks opponents, how everything must be done now. Is all in the "manual."

744 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:48:26am

re: #736 Empire1

Thanks! I've got that printed out. Now is a "CD burner" whatever it is that lets me simply save things to the CD drive? I've done that a few times, so if "burn" here is a synonym for "save", I'm OK. Otherwise I guess I need some sort of new gadget -- ?

Burn, save, same thing, at least the way it is being used here today.

745 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:48:39am

re: #733 realwest

"Harry Ried has been deafeningly quiet." You say that as if it's a BAD thing!

Good point.

746 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:48:39am

re: #735 pingjockey

Do they have an arrest warrant? Let's grab him and dump him off over there!

It's been a while since I read the link. Hold on.

747 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:49:27am

re: #729 HoosierHoops

There is no way Lance can keep up this pace...But if he does..
He would be considered one of the greatest athletes of all time....
There is no way that man can do this..Can he?

I dunno..it seems impossible but he dies it every time

748 J.D.  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:49:33am

re: #715 Gus 802

I thought it was 1295 days.
GONE!

749 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:49:36am

re: #732 MandyManners

If he'd been around 233 years ago, he'd have told King George to unclench.

He probably would have sided with King George.

750 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:49:46am

re: #740 nyc redneck

they all tried to stop the surge. including o.
a few days ago rush played a ckip of stupid biden speaking somewhere.
the bastard said he was 'going to push the surge down bush's throat.'
these scum also called general petraeus a liar.
such disgusting behavior and unforgivable

2010! Can't wait!

751 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:50:05am

re: #739 VegasRick

Avanti is gone to drink free beer at a friends house, he left without answering a couple of questions as Walter pointed out.

he's lurking...he's an attention whore

752 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:50:12am

re: #747 albusteve

I dunno..it seems impossible but he dies it every time

Lance died?

753 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:50:13am

re: #727 pingjockey

That's it. Thanks. BTW, thanks for having the sun out over here on your side of the hill! Up in Burlington this weekend.

We're getting pretty dry... June we've had 0.18 inches of rain.

754 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:50:21am

re: #741 MandyManners

Chelsea's not mentally challenged. Neither are the Gore kids. Amy Carter seems okay to me.

Forgot my /.

755 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:50:28am

re: #728 laZardo

The Clockwork Orange reference reminds me of GTA2 back in '99. Would love to see that sort of atmosphere in full-3D, and not just in custom car mods for the existing PC versions.

I also think maybe a Fight Club style thing would work well too. It would also make the game a little more contemporary. Every one plays the game by just running down pedestrians and random violence and chaos anyways. The story lines should match. We'll probably have to wait 2-3 years before the next one comes out. I hope they do better next time.

756 Bobblehead  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:50:32am

re: #747 albusteve

I dunno..it seems impossible but he dies it every time

Hard to peddle when you're dead. Or is he a zombie? :)

757 J.D.  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:50:52am

re: #738 MandyManners

No shit?

It was funny at the time...

758 freedombilly  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:51:07am

re: #729 HoosierHoops

There is no way Lance can keep up this pace...But if he does..
He would be considered one of the greatest athletes of all time....
There is no way that man can do this..Can he?

Lance was quoted this morning as saying his form going in is better than a couple of years he won. He said definitely better than 2003 but not as good 2001 or 2004. He said it should be interesting.

I like him to place on the podium along with teammate Alberto Contador who right now is absolutely the man to beat.

759 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:51:26am

re: #752 Walter L. Newton

Lance died?

Mandy cried!

760 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:51:31am

re: #748 J.D.

I thought it was 1295 days.
GONE!

One day less!

I was looking at this one.

I like the second count on your link.

761 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:51:47am

re: #729 HoosierHoops

There is no way Lance can keep up this pace...But if he does..
He would be considered one of the greatest athletes of all time....
There is no way that man can do this..Can he?


Howdy Hoosier .... Happy 4th ... Hope your Son is doing well. Lance always kicks it up a notch in the mountain stages. If he is anywhere near the lead when they hit the really mountanous stages, he will be in good shape.

762 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:52:15am

re: #706 pingjockey
I know he's been indicted for manipulating currency in some country - for some reason I think in Eastern Europe or Spain.
But he did indeed nearly bring down the Bank Of England with his currency speculation.

763 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:52:15am

re: #735 pingjockey

Do they have an arrest warrant? Let's grab him and dump him off over there!

Here's one link.

Here's another.

I've not read either in a long time.

764 pingjockey  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:52:47am

re: #753 JCM

We came over hwy 20 and there's a pretty good forest fire burning up in the Panther Creek drainage above Ross Lake.

765 J.D.  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:52:51am

re: #760 Gus 802

One day less!

I was looking at this one.

I like the second count on your link.

Sort of helps, doesn't it?

766 albusteve  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:52:53am

re: #752 Walter L. Newton

Lance died?

woops...haha!

767 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:53:10am

re: #719 pingjockey

That is all he ever delivers. He is a constant state of campaign.

Perpetual revolution.

768 J.D.  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:53:40am

See ya later.

Play nice.

769 pingjockey  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:53:42am

re: #763 MandyManners
Thanks much.

770 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:54:09am

re: #749 Gus 802

He probably would have sided with King George.

Only if he got a crown.

771 pingjockey  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:54:24am

re: #767 MandyManners
That's it, Right out of Maos book.

772 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:54:24am

re: #765 J.D.

Sort of helps, doesn't it?

It does. What happens then will have to wait but for now it's like putting up the notches on the wall or x'ing out the days on a calendar.

773 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:54:56am

Turkish TV gameshow looks to convert atheists

ISTANBUL (Reuters) - What happens when you put a Muslim imam, a Christian priest, a rabbi and a Buddhist monk in a room with 10 atheists?

Turkish television station Kanal T hopes the answer is a ratings success as it prepares to launch a gameshow where spiritual guides from the four faiths will seek to convert a group of non-believers.

The prize for converts will be a pilgrimage to a holy site of their chosen religion -- Mecca for Muslims, the Vatican for Christians, Jerusalem for Jews and Tibet for Buddhists.

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Hey, I'm a naturalist, can I win a pilgrimage to the Playboy Mansion?

774 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:55:01am

re: #747 albusteve

I dunno..it seems impossible but he dies it every time

LOL..does it? *wink*
You know why he can't win? Age...There are 21 year old kids on his ass and you can never win the battle against age....in any sport at anytime....
Lance was one of the greatest Athletes of all time and hung out with a smoking hot rock star....
But... age always wins...Lance is a stud....

775 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:55:15am

re: #715 Gus 802
Good morning Gus! It's what Obama does best: stir up class warfare and he isn't going to quit anytime in the foreseeable future.
He ran as a "uniter" but, as he was before he was elected, his specialty is divisiveness.

776 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:55:16am

re: #770 MandyManners

Only if he got a crown.

Obama would get a tiara.

//

777 pingjockey  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:55:48am

Later folks, may you and yours have an oustanding day! Spare a moment for a thought for our troops wherever they are, and their families!

778 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:55:51am

re: #764 pingjockey

We came over hwy 20 and there's a pretty good forest fire burning up in the Panther Creek drainage above Ross Lake.

Firefighters are nervous today.....

779 Gella  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:56:24am

Happy Independence day lizards :))))

780 Empire1  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:56:50am

re: #711 HoosierHoops

If I recall Emachines come preloaded with Roxio software...But even if that's not the case....You have some burn software preinstalled...
Just burn the MP3's to disk....
Explore the menu and post again..

OK, I see two possibilities:

Accessories/Entertainment/Sound Recorder (from Microsoft)
Realtek Sound Manager/AvRack (?)

(I hate this new stuff that doesn't come with a manual!)

781 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:56:52am

re: #777 pingjockey

Later folks, may you and yours have an oustanding day! Spare a moment for a thought for our troops wherever they are, and their families!


Indeed!

782 Joshua Cohen  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:56:58am

Happy Independence Day!

And let liberty enlightening the world!

783 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:57:28am

re: #775 realwest

Good morning Gus! It's what Obama does best: stir up class warfare and he isn't going to quit anytime in the foreseeable future.
He ran as a "uniter" but, as he was before he was elected, his specialty is divisiveness.

Hi RW. That he does. What's creepy about Obama is that he tries to be subtle about it. He tends to fool a lot of people that he's being a "nice guy" when in fact he's being a creep which is apparent in most of these speeches. Sort of like the way he flipped the bird twice during the campaign yet used the excuse that he was "scratching his face." Notice how that hasn't happened since. Typical passive/aggressive liberal.

784 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:57:32am

re: #731 J.D. Well he told the right lies to the right people and he has kept his word (so far) to the UAW, but given the low voter turnout, I think it's time to CUE MANDY!

785 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:57:41am

I'm out for awhile. Enjoy your holiday, everyone!

786 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:57:56am

re: #771 pingjockey

That's it, Right out of Maos book.

The struggle between thesis and antithesis never ceases and praxis never sleeps.

787 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:58:10am

re: #773 Walter L. Newton

If I'm an atheist, do I win a trip to the Large Hadron Collider?

788 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:58:29am

re: #776 Gus 802

Obama would get a tiara.

//

Queen WAB would wrestle him for it.

789 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 8:59:37am

re: #787 laZardo

If I'm an atheist, do I win a trip to the Large Hadron Collider?

You know what's going to happen don't you?
Those evil Darwinist scientists will kill us all, KILL US ALL!

/////

790 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:00:47am

re: #787 laZardo

If I'm an atheist, do I win a trip to the Large Hadron Collider?

[Link: www.cyriak.co.uk...]

Watch the cams for about 30 seconds.

791 opnion  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:00:47am

Happy Fourth of July! Missed the thread on Sarah Palin, very odd.

792 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:00:59am

re: #788 MandyManners

Queen WAB would wrestle him for it.

In a sleeveless garment. //

793 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:01:21am

re: #774 HoosierHoops
Ah NUTS! Experience and treachery will always win out over youth and enthusiasm!
LOL!

794 Empire1  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:01:50am

re: #744 Walter L. Newton

Burn, save, same thing, at least the way it is being used here today.

Thanks and an upding! I thought I might be missing some slang in there somewhere.

795 JCM  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:03:04am

re: #794 Empire1

Thanks and an upding! I thought I might be missing some slang in there somewhere.

A laser is used to make marks on the CD media. Hence the term "burn."

796 realwest  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:03:06am

BBIAW.

797 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:03:15am

re: #789 JCM

It's either them or the clowns!

798 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:05:09am

re: #790 Walter L. Newton

I'd prefer to be turned into strange matter if it came down to that.

That'd feel so trippy.

799 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:05:23am
800 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:05:51am

re: #792 Gus 802

In a sleeveless garment. //

Gotta' keep those biceps free.

801 vxbush  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:06:38am

Greetings. Happy Independence Day; take a moment to thank our progenitors for their wisdom in setting up this country.

Right now, I'd like to get some lunch, but I have a cat who has decided that my lap is simply the best place to have a nap.

802 Ojoe  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:06:50am

Update from the Modern Whig Party:

To the members of the Modern Whig Party,

Although the Modern Whig Party has so far attracted about 27,000 members from all walks of life, we like to use events such as Independence Day to get back to our roots. The historic Whig Party approach of common sense and rational solutions was formed by such important American luminaries as Henry Clay and Abraham Lincoln. And as most of you know, the Modern Whig Party was recently revived by Iraq and Afghanistan veterans who equally valued common sense ahead of partisan bickering and ideology. It is not an accident that numerous media outlets throughout the country cite this grassroots movement as "viable" and "the fastest growing mainstream political movement in the nation." So this weekend, let's celebrate our freedom while also keeping an eye toward the important tasks that need to get done.

For example, energy independence remains as elusive as ever while gas prices have crept back up to a national average of $2.62 per gallon. Funds for education continue to be cut, with summer school programs in various states being eliminated due to budgetary issues. And tens of thousands of service members are celebrating the July 4th holiday overseas.

Many of you signed onto this movement because you want to be a part of a political organization that truly represents the notions of "country first" and "change." At the same time, indications point to the fact that our members also want a non-fringe movement that can build a viable foundation for gradual success. In this manner, we have attracted thousands of independents, Republicans and moderate Democrats. The idea is to find the working formula to cater to independent-minded voters who value common sense ahead of ideology.

As a start, as well as a sign of how far the Modern Whig movement has come, our organization currently is actively supporting two candidates running for office on the Whig ticket.


- Gene Baldassari is beginning to ratchet up his 2009 campaign for the 14th Assembly in New Jersey. Please expect in a few weeks additional information and upgraded Web information about Gene to determine your support for this experienced and viable candidate. Gene is running on the Modern Whig Party banner. [Link: www.votegene.com...]
- Paul McKain is campaigning for Congress in 2010 as a part of the Florida Whig Party. Paul is a child-safety advocate, successful entrepreneur and retired firefighter. [Link: www.paulmckain.com...]
- Members of the Modern Whig movement also have expressed their support for Adam Kokesh of Santa Fe, NM who will be making an important announcement on July 4th in regard to his potential run for Congress in 2010. An Iraq veteran with the Marine Corps, Adam is an independent thinker who exemplifies the notion of independent mindedness ahead of ideology. [Link: www.kokeshforcongress.com...]

In addition to our candidates, there are a number of projects and endeavors underway as we continue to build this movement. In the coming weeks, we will inform you of ways you can help big and small. Until then, we wish you a safe and happy Fourth of July weekend.

Best regards,

Executive Committee
The Modern Whig Party

803 opnion  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:07:12am

re: #783 Gus 802

Hi RW. That he does. What's creepy about Obama is that he tries to be subtle about it. He tends to fool a lot of people that he's being a "nice guy" when in fact he's being a creep which is apparent in most of these speeches. Sort of like the way he flipped the bird twice during the campaign yet used the excuse that he was "scratching his face." Notice how that hasn't happened since. Typical passive/aggressive liberal.

Obama is very petty & nasty. In my opinion the Obamas are racists with huge chips on their sholders.

804 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:07:20am

re: #793 realwest

Ah NUTS! Experience and treachery will always win out over youth and enthusiasm!
LOL!

LOL
The one factor that no super star athlete can escape is age...
There is no grace..there is no escape...There is no power in the universe...
My Dad took me to meet Jesse Owens when I was a kid... He was talking about his life...I have his autograph...Perhaps one of America's greatest Athletes of all time...He was a little old man that defeated Hitler in his day...
But fucking age.....

805 Empire1  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:07:26am

re: #795 JCM

A laser is used to make marks on the CD media. Hence the term "burn."

I guessed at that, knowing about the lasers ... but where electronics are concerned, I wanna make SURE it doesn't involve smoke and flames!

806 jorline  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:09:18am

Sorry for the drive by.

Biden Says Violence May Cause Disengagement From Iraq

“Your future, successful future, is very much in our interest,” Biden said he told Maliki during private talks, according to the pool report.

He also told Maliki that if Iraq fell into a period of sectarian violence or engaged in ethnic fighting, such a step would change the nature of U.S. engagement, a senior administration official said, according to the report. The aide did not offer specifics about the change, it said.

Maliki told reporters after his meeting with Biden that the June 30 pullout “confirms the credibility of the agreements in place” between the U.S. and Iraq, and that the accords are “being faithfully committed.”

Ahhhh stimulus dollars

Even as U.S. forces withdraw, the administration is committed to maintaining a program of training and equipping Iraqi security against insurgent attacks. The accord also promises a building of commercial, cultural and education ties.


Corny quotes for corny Biden.

“As corny as it sounds, damn, I’m proud to be an American,” Biden said, according to the pool report. “Thanks for choosing us; you are the reason why America is strong.”

He presided at a naturalization ceremony at one of Saddam Hussein's former palaces, where 237 U.S. service members were sworn in as American citizens. "We did it in Saddam's palace and I can think of nothing better. That S.O.B. is rolling over in his grave right now,"

807 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:10:47am

re: #803 opnion

Obama is very petty & nasty. In my opinion the Obamas are racists with huge chips on their sholders.

Yep. Slash and burn Chicago politicians. Most American's have forgotten about how he got into office in Illinois, Tony Rezko, Axelrod's antics, Rev. Wright, etc.

808 jaunte  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:12:14am

re: #715 Gus 802

These are some of the challenges that our generation has been called to meet. And yet, there are those who would have us try what has already failed; who would defend the status quo. They argue that our health care system is fine the way it is and that a clean energy economy can wait. They say we are trying to do too much, that we are moving too quickly, and that we all ought to just take a deep breath and scale back our goals.

These naysayers have short memories. They forget that we, as a people, did not get here by standing pat in a time of change. We did not get here by doing what was easy. That is not how a cluster of 13 colonies became the United States of America.

It's unfortunate that a lot of people are still buying in to this strawman rubbish he continues to construct.

809 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:12:54am

re: #806 jorline

Sorry for the drive by.

Biden Says Violence May Cause Disengagement From Iraq

...

Biden Says Violence May Cause Disengagement From Iraq

Biden opens his big mouth once again.

810 jcm  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:13:30am

re: #805 Empire1

I guessed at that, knowing about the lasers ... but where electronics are concerned, I wanna make SURE it doesn't involve smoke and flames!

Yikes! She's onto us!

I work in electronics. The deep secret of electronics is it's magic smoke. All that electrical engineering stuff is a diversion. When you let the magic smoke out of your electrical things, they don't work anymore.

Now that I've told you, must swear never ever to reveal our secret.

811 vxbush  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:13:41am

re: #808 jaunte

It's unfortunate that a lot of people are still buying in to this strawman rubbish he continues to construct.

Because thinking about it logically requires taking your mind off American Idol.

812 opnion  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:14:07am

re: #804 HoosierHoops

LOL
The one factor that no super star athlete can escape is age...
There is no grace..there is no escape...There is no power in the universe...
My Dad took me to meet Jesse Owens when I was a kid... He was talking about his life...I have his autograph...Perhaps one of America's greatest Athletes of all time...He was a little old man that defeated Hitler in his day...
But fucking age.....

Hoops I missed your reply about your son the othrr day because I got to my stop, Salutes to him.

813 vxbush  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:14:22am

re: #810 jcm

Yikes! She's onto us!

I work in electronics. The deep secret of electronics is it's magic smoke. All that electrical engineering stuff is a diversion. When you let the magic smoke out of your electrical things, they don't work anymore.

Now that I've told you, must swear never ever to reveal our secret.

:D

My family and friends already think I'm a magician when it comes to computers.

814 SixDegrees  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:14:23am

re: #703 VegasRick

Harry Ried has been deafeningly quiet. Fuckhead.

Indeed he has. The days when he could make a living screaming at the Republicans and blaming them for everything he didn't like are long over. His party controls the Senate now, to the point where they have (just) enough votes to break even a filibuster; yet the future of key Administration proposals is somewhere between uncertain and bleak. It looks, for example, as though cap & trade will crash and burn in the Senate - and Harry isn't going to be able to blame the Republicans for "throwing up roadblocks" or "being opposed to progress" or any of the other well-worn excuses he's trotted out in recent years. When C&T fails, it's going to be all on Harry as Majority Leader to explain why he wasn't able to hold his own party together. There is a real possibility that Harry may lose his Leadership position in the near future.

From here on out, absolutely everything that goes wrong is the Democrat's fault. Period. End of story. I've got nothing to do but sit back, eat popcorn and blame the Democrats for everything until about this time next year, when the midterm election season starts moving into high gear. And by then, Conservatives will have a boatload of failures to point fingers at.

815 HoosierHoops  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:14:32am

re: #811 vxbush

Because thinking about it logically requires taking your mind off American Idol.

Hi VX...Is it raining where you are?

816 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:14:52am

re: #807 Gus 802

Yep. Slash and burn Chicago politicians. Most American's have forgotten about how he got into office in Illinois, Tony Rezko, Axelrod's antics, Rev. Wright, etc.

Too stupid to care.

817 Broomer  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:15:04am

re: #802 Ojoe

What's the difference between the Modern Whig Party and the American Whig Party?

818 vxbush  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:15:39am

re: #815 HoosierHoops

Hi VX...Is it raining where you are?

Yup. Not hard, but very persistent. The radar makes it look like it's going to rain all day.

819 Truck Monkey  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:17:26am

re: #803 opnion

Obama is very petty & nasty. In my opinion the Obamas are racists with huge chips on their sholders.

Their Chips are SO large that they no longer have any shoulders. Happy 4th of July everyone. Off to mow the back 40 while smoking a Cuban Cohiba. Life is good.

820 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:18:17am

re: #814 SixDegrees

Indeed he has. The days when he could make a living screaming at the Republicans and blaming them for everything he didn't like are long over. His party controls the Senate now, to the point where they have (just) enough votes to break even a filibuster; yet the future of key Administration proposals is somewhere between uncertain and bleak. It looks, for example, as though cap & trade will crash and burn in the Senate - and Harry isn't going to be able to blame the Republicans for "throwing up roadblocks" or "being opposed to progress" or any of the other well-worn excuses he's trotted out in recent years. When C&T fails, it's going to be all on Harry as Majority Leader to explain why he wasn't able to hold his own party together. There is a real possibility that Harry may lose his Leadership position in the near future.

From here on out, absolutely everything that goes wrong is the Democrat's fault. Period. End of story. I've got nothing to do but sit back, eat popcorn and blame the Democrats for everything until about this time next year, when the midterm election season starts moving into high gear. And by then, Conservatives will have a boatload of failures to point fingers at.

Excellent post! And I'm already on the "Defeat Harry Reid" committee here in LV.

821 opnion  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:18:49am

re: #807 Gus 802

Yep. Slash and burn Chicago politicians. Most American's have forgotten about how he got into office in Illinois, Tony Rezko, Axelrod's antics, Rev. Wright, etc.


You don't come out of that clean.

822 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:18:55am

re: #817 Broomer

What's the difference between the Modern Whig Party and the American Whig Party?

The old ones have white hair.
/

823 SlartyBartfast  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:19:13am

Happy Independence Day, you Lizards!

The beer is on ice and the flags are flying and I'm looking forward to some burgers, chicken legs, and smoked sausages on the grill today. (Yum!)

We're skipping the local Tea Party with Congressman Lynn Westmoreland (who does the voice-over on this cool Republican ad) as the opening speaker, followed by keynote speaker, Herman Cain. (We Georgians missed the memo about White Supremacists running the Tea Parties.)

However, Tea Party aside I'm flying the Gadsden "Don't Tread On Me" adder under Old Glory today.

God bless you all and God Bless America.

824 Empire1  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:19:22am

re: #810 jcm

I used to be a computer tech/database programmer, back in the old DOS days -- I know all about the magic smoke, and repairs by FM! I got lost when things went from words to pictures/icons, though -- that just isn't the way my mind works. I want words, blast it!

825 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:19:29am

re: #808 jaunte

It's unfortunate that a lot of people are still buying in to this strawman rubbish he continues to construct.

Yep. They bought it in 2006, 2008 and for the time being. Sometimes I wonder how much of his public support is due to "peer pressure" or the desire to "fit in." Another thing being that it's "politically incorrect" to oppose el presidente at least according to the MSM.

At first it was "give him a chance it hasn't even been 100 days." Well, we're well past the 100 days and he's failing.

Oops, I used the "f" word. Off to Obama Sensitivity Training for me! //

826 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:20:14am

re: #821 opnion

You don't come out of that clean.

Not according to Biden.
/

827 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:21:27am

Incoming IAEA chief: No evidence Iran seeking nuclear weapons

The incoming head of the United Nation's nuclear watchdog said on Friday he did not see any hard evidence that Iran was trying to gain the ability to develop nuclear weapons.

"I don't see any evidence in IAEA official documents about this," Japan's Yukiya Amano told Reuters in his first direct comment on Iran's nuclear program since his election to head the International Atomic Energy Agency, when asked whether he believed Iran was seeking a nuclear weapons capability.

/hoo boy, where do they find these people?

828 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:22:48am

re: #807 Gus 802

Yep. Slash and burn Chicago politicians. Most American's have forgotten about how he got into office in Illinois, Tony Rezko, Axelrod's antics, Rev. Wright, etc.

But those were all exaggerated! No doubt somebody growing up in that area would inevitably come into contact with people like those...but to say they influenced him that much is just simply that! Exaggeration!

/

829 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:23:09am

re: #821 opnion

You don't come out of that clean.

Normally one wouldn't come out of that clean. But the news media gives Obama a free pass to this day. The MSM is made up of liberals who are afraid of their own shadow with regards to Obama's background.

830 jcm  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:25:31am

re: #827 Killian Bundy

Incoming IAEA chief: No evidence Iran seeking nuclear weapons

/hoo boy, where do they find these people?

Centrifuges? I thought they were Jack Lalanne juicers!

831 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:25:43am

re: #828 laZardo

But those were all exaggerated! No doubt somebody growing up in that area would inevitably come into contact with people like those...but to say they influenced him that much is just simply that! Exaggeration!

/

Vast right-wing conspiracy!

//

832 debutaunt  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:27:05am

re: #717 J.D.

They used to do a joke on Southwest flights when they went through the safety instructions and told you to put your own oxygen first...
"And if you're traveling with two children, next put the mask on the one you feel has the most promise..."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHHAAAA

833 jorline  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:27:33am

re: #826 VegasRick

Not according to Biden.
/

The World According To Biden

834 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:27:41am

re: #825 Gus 802

Yep. They bought it in 2006, 2008 and for the time being. Sometimes I wonder how much of his public support is due to "peer pressure" or the desire to "fit in." Another thing being that it's "politically incorrect" to oppose el presidente at least according to the MSM.

At first it was "give him a chance it hasn't even been 100 days." Well, we're well past the 100 days and he's failing.

Oops, I used the "f" word. Off to Obama Sensitivity Training for me! //

I don't think he's failing. He's on his way to destroying free-market capitalism through his economic policies and the Cap and Trade bill which is just another economic tool disguised as concern for the environment.

835 leftover54  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:29:09am

re: #30 Noam Sayin'

I'm firing off my carbide (Bangsite loaded) cannon. They're legal and not too loud. Still, theres just somethin' about firing off a cannon on the 4th...

Happy 233rd America !

Thanks to all those serving in the various branches of the US Military - especially to those celebrating this day far away from the land and folks they love.

I gotta hankerin' for some Ray Charles...live, '91.

[Link: www.popmodal.com...]

836 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:29:48am

Speaking of "vast right-wing conspiracy" I just came across this from October of last year:

Hillary Clinton, Al Franken and the Return of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy

...

"Al Franken was taking on the vast right-wing conspiracy before other people even admitted it existed," she told a crowd of 2,000 supporters on the University of Minnesota campus, urging them to give her rival, Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama, a filibuster-proof margin in the Senate. "Al Franken, with your help, can be our 60th vote."

...

And today Franken is a senator and Hillary Clinton is Secretary of State.

I think I'll go dunk my head in a large bowl of ice cubes.

837 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:30:40am

re: #834 MandyManners

Well, the other option is to let the economy fail outright, and the last time that happened it took a World War to revitalize it!

/i know not what weapons world war 3 will be fought, etc.

838 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:31:32am

re: #834 MandyManners

I don't think he's failing. He's on his way to destroying free-market capitalism through his economic policies and the Cap and Trade bill which is just another economic tool disguised as concern for the environment.

True. His goal is to succeed in the destruction of capitalism.

839 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:33:07am

re: #837 laZardo

Well, the other option is to let the economy fail outright, and the last time that happened it took a World War to revitalize it!

/i know not what weapons world war 3 will be fought, etc.

Just how will cap and trade save the economy?

840 jaunte  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:33:22am

re: #837 laZardo

I think there are more options than just the binary of current administration policies vs. outright economic failure. The idea that there is only one choice is creating a lot of havoc.

841 MandyManners  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:34:21am

re: #838 Gus 802

True. His goal is to succeed in the destruction of capitalism.

And, the trashing of the flawed Constitution.

842 SixDegrees  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:35:29am

re: #825 Gus 802

Yep. They bought it in 2006, 2008 and for the time being. Sometimes I wonder how much of his public support is due to "peer pressure" or the desire to "fit in." Another thing being that it's "politically incorrect" to oppose el presidente at least according to the MSM.

At first it was "give him a chance it hasn't even been 100 days." Well, we're well past the 100 days and he's failing.

Oops, I used the "f" word. Off to Obama Sensitivity Training for me! //

People vote their pocketbooks before they vote anything else. Right now, we've got unemployment continuing to climb; a housing market that has eroded home values by about half; a climbing number of foreclosures dumping even more bargain-priced homes onto the market, making housing prices even worse; deficit spending at unprecedented, terrifying levels; and all signs pointing to things continuing to worsen on all fronts for a disturbingly long time.

It's 0's economy now, and blame is going to start settling on the White House like turds on a cow pasture straight away. If a recovery doesn't show signs of forming within the next two to three months, the fallout will leave a permanent stain on 0's reputation that no subsequent recovery will ever quite erase.

And it appears the 0's plan is to ignore the economy and let it continue to scrape bottom at least through October. Why? Because when people are out of work and in fear of losing their jobs, it makes passage of government-run health care much easier, and also makes all manner of new government programs and powers - like mortgage rewriting, control of fuel and car prices, manipulation of energy supplies - much more sellable to a public increasingly in fear of losing their jobs, homes and savings. 0 has said he wants most of these things resolved by fall, so don't look for any meaningful action to right the economy before that. It's in his best interest to keep it in the tank.

Of course, the longer things drag on, the longer it will take to recover. By the time that happens, of course, we'll be forking over a huge chunk of our compensation to the government to help pay off deficits, which will throw a wet blanket on spending and prolong the recession even further.

Why do you think that, of the $1 trillion plus that was specifically allocated for economic stimulus last winter, less than 10% has been funneled into the economy at large? Recovery doesn't help 0, and that money is much more useful to him and his fellow Democrats if it's spent just prior to the midterms, and especially just before the 2012 election cycle. It's a gigantic, government-funded slush fund that is entirely partisan.

843 VegasRick  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:35:31am

re: #841 MandyManners

And, the trashing of the flawed Constitution.

Well, he is MFCBBHO!

844 Gus 802  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:35:56am

re: #841 MandyManners

And, the trashing of the flawed Constitution.

Speaking of which. Did you see that Sonia Sotomayor once said that the SATs are "culturally biased?"

845 laZardo  Sat, Jul 4, 2009 9:36:49am