Shooting Star.

hope not

Dream On

re: #2 Chicken Kiev

hope not

Hope so.

A sitting governor is always newsworthy.

Resigning was a huge mistake.

. The relentless attacks on Palin's person both by the GOP elite and Democrats, her children, and the derision of the liberals for a retarded child took a toll. Rollins has no such excuse.

re: #5 Syrah

A sitting governor is always newsworthy.

Resigning was a huge mistake.

Agreed. This is either defeatist or opportunist, anyway you look at it, a very bad move.

"crashing to earth"....good grief...she's off to do something else, big woop...people get too deep into this stuff....now I would consider BOs performance "crashing to earth", and burning

The GOP needs to work on it's ideological foundation before it can think of promoting anyone as a star. As I said yesterday- it's like looking to cast a role for a script you don't even have.

Sorry Ed...you are wrong about Sarah Palin. My favorite line " Rollins, who headed up former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee's 2008 White House run....".
How'd that work out for ya, Ed?

re: #6 pat

. The relentless attacks on Palin's person both by the GOP elite and Democrats, her children, and the derision of the liberals for a retarded child took a toll. Rollins has no such excuse.

Rollins is not running for anything. And in the least, if she really is walking away because of the attacks, then I certainly don't want someone who doesn't want to fight.

Hell, we had that with McCain.

If you look closely, you won't find anyone in the GOP who is fighting right now, in any sort of way.

As I have said countless times, Sarah Palin is a quality individual who is not Presidential material. She has excellent potential to be a regional player in the GOP. I really hope she runs for the Senate from Alaska because she would do a fine job, especially on energy issues. I do not agree that she "crashed to earth" because I have no idea what her reasons for resigning are. But she has a special needs baby and a number of other family issues that are probably in need of solving. Once she settles all of them, we'll see what is next for her. In any event, I wish her well. She is clearly a good human being.

re: #9 Sharmuta

OT - your speed better? Killgore's is, mine is?

re: #7 Walter L. Newton

Agreed. This is either defeatist or opportunist, anyway you look at it, a very bad move.

only if she plans a run at another elected office...for any other reason who cares...nice gal, not presidential for a long time yet and now that seems out of the question to me

The Governor's Office was the only place she was vulnerable to significant political and financial attack. They were going to nickle and dime her to death until the end of her term. She has now closed that door on them.

People who like her won't mind that she resigned. People who don't like her will hate whatever she does.

A quick search on Google tells me that I shouldn't be all that impressed by Ed Rollins.

(Ed Rollins gives Obama an "A" for keeping country safe, Commentary: Bush still doesn't get it.)

His support of Ronald Reagan is to be lauded, of course, and his work for the GOP clearly suggests he has some common ground with the Republicans. But I wouldn't go so far as to suggest his one voice is representative.

re: #13 Walter L. Newton

Yes- speeds suddenly back to almost normal.

I'd like to see her gun for her smearers...take them to the mat

Huckabee's campaign manager -- what cred does that give him? -- Faux news is pushing hucky like he's a second coming -- we already have one savior -- we need a real person

I think the bottom line is you saw a shooting star come crashing to Earth.

/think she even cares what Ed Rollins thinks?

Yet another media frenzy right on the heels of Jackson. If I was an Alaskan I would tell her to drop dead, but as I'm not I will just say, go away.

re: #19 budvarakbar

Huckabee's campaign manager -- what cred does that give him? -- Faux news is pushing hucky like he's a second coming -- we already have one savior -- we need a real person

RON PAUL!
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One dumb-asses (mine) opinion...

I'd like to see her not run for anything... make a pile of money doing speeches, screwing her husband and protecting her children. She can do some good without being an elected official (I hope).

re: #19 budvarakbar

Huckabee's campaign manager -- what cred does that give him? -- Faux news is pushing hucky like he's a second coming -- we already have one savior -- we need a real person

the MSM simply cannot be trusted...they have an nefarious agenda...promoting political candidates is criminal

"You have to remember, everybody else climbed the mountain; she got put on top of it by John McCain,“ he said. ”We would not be talking about Sarah Palin if John McCain hadn’t picked her (as his running mater). So, at the end of the day, she’s still gotta earn her stripes.“ ...

I take exception with this. Sarah worked her way to the Governor's office, and she had people talking before McCain selected her to be his running mate. But he's a Huckabee guy, so I'm not surprised he wouldn't want to give Sarah any credit.

Well, Palin just committed nomination hari-kiri; people just aren't gonna nominate a quitter for the US presidency, no matter how vicious the attacks have been. Sympathy votes will not carry her over the top.

What deeply concerns me about this move is that it will have the effect of elevating Jindal's (and Huckabee's) stock by default. And we really don't need either of them to win the nomination, much less the presidency. But we don't need Obama winning re-election either.

I don't see Thompson or Giuliani making a credible 2012 run. I guess there's no option left for me but to climb aboard the Romney bandwagon. He'll certainly be well positioned to challenge Obama on economic issues, and his election would re-stiffen the US spine in the GWOT.

re: #25 Sharmuta

I take exception with this. Sarah worked her way to the Governor's office, and she had people talking before McCain selected her to be his running mate. But he's a Huckabee guy, so I'm not surprised he wouldn't want to give Sarah any credit.

Rollins is a Huckabee guy, so I'm not surprised either. Huckabee likely has his eyeballs on 2012 too.

I tend to agree with Rollins.

Unless she does something spectacular, her 1st unfinished term will be an albatross.

re: #26 Salamantis

Jindal says he's out.

re: #27 rightymouse

Rollins is a Huckabee guy, so I'm not surprised either. Huckabee likely has his eyeballs on 2012 too.

I'd rather vote for Jon Voight...good lord, Huck is a buffoon

re: #26 Salamantis

Well, Palin just committed nomination hari-kiri; people just aren't gonna nominate a quitter for the US presidency, no matter how vicious the attacks have been. Sympathy votes will not carry her over the top.

What deeply concerns me about this move is that it will have the effect of elevating Jindal's (and Huckabee's) stock by default. And we really don't need either of them to win the nomination, much less the presidency. But we don't need Obama winning re-election either.

I don't see Thompson or Giuliani making a credible 2012 run. I guess there's no option left for me but to climb aboard the Romney bandwagon. He'll certainly be well positioned to challenge Obama on economic issues, and his election would re-stiffen the US spine in the GWOT.

Romney is VERY Presidential. He was a succesful Republican governor in Massachusetts of all places. I would vote for him in a heartbeat.

re: #26 Salamantis

Me?

Romney/Bolton!

One for the money.
One for the kick-ass.

re: #31 _RememberTonyC

Wish I could have in the last election.

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Me?

Romney/Bolton!

One for the money.
One for the kick-ass.

Bolton is way to smart to run for office

re: #30 albusteve

I'd rather vote for Jon Voight...good lord, Huck is a buffoon

Huck is all that and more.

re: #29 Sharmuta

Jindal says he's out.

Let us devoutly hope that it stays that way.

I love how so many people don't get SP. Very clear to me she is legit and coming at things with a totally non-traditional way. Not such a bad thing when the DNC and GOP are so screwed up. All she has to do is say boo and everybody jumps, that will not change. I think you have to come from small town America to really understand her.

re: #33 VegasRick

Wish I could have in the last election.

Me too, Brother. Me too.

BBL

All of this "quitter" static is funny to me. People move on in the corporate world all the time, moving on to bigger and better things is encouraged, except, I guess, in the case of Sarah Palin. Time.will.tell.

re: #11 Walter L. Newton

It's one thing to fight for yourself and others but another to fight on when the people you are fighting for piss all over you just for you trying to fight for them in addition to your enemies. Add to that the fact that this far after the elections are long over she is still under constant attack with frivolous unfounded lawsuits and a press corp that is still searching for anything to bury her with. Perhaps she just wants to step out of the public life or at least get the attacks off of her family. Realistically if she were to run for POTUS she'd be running against her own party and all of it's enemies for a job that is hard enough to get even when your own party lines up to help... Maybe she just had enough and is a canary in the coal mine supposed Republicans should pay attention to...

re: #34 albusteve

I'm afraid you are right. I'd just like to see the heads explode.

Funny, the press talked about him with such a "Darth Vader/Cheney" meme... I love watching him being interviewed. (paraphrased) "That man uses his mouth purtier than a twenty dollar whore (and as honestly)".

re: #37 Ayatrollah

Small town? The people of her State elected her. And she quit on them.

re: #31 _RememberTonyC

he has excellent hair, a killer tan etc

re: #29 Sharmuta

Jindal says he's out.

Not out at all.

"Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal and his state campaign group want supporters to end efforts to draft him for a presidential run, but the nationally prominent Republican stopped short of saying he won't seek the presidency."

Just asked that the draft committee disband so as not to distract from current work.

re: #36 Salamantis

Let us devoutly hope that it stays that way.

Jindal is like Palin IMHO. A regional player with a lot of potential to do good things, but not in DC. I liked how he took charge last summer when hurricane season presented some problems in LA. He was well organized and calm. But he just doesn't seem like POTUS material.

re: #26 Salamantis

What deeply concerns me about this move is that it will have the effect of elevating Jindal's (and Huckabee's) stock by default. And we really don't need either of them to win the nomination, much less the presidency. But we don't need Obama winning re-election either.

That's the essence of it all.

re: #45 pink freud

Thanks, Pink. He stands no chance, imo.

re: #37 Ayatrollah

I love how so many people don't get SP. Very clear to me she is legit and coming at things with a totally non-traditional way. Not such a bad thing when the DNC and GOP are so screwed up. All she has to do is say boo and everybody jumps, that will not change. I think you have to come from small town America to really understand her.

I think we are getting her very clearly now. A quitter. Or would you like to explain it to us?

re: #40 Fluffy Bunny

The speed with which the pundits gleefully jumped to say "she's done" etc speaks volumes about where they are coming from and are only the tip of the iceberg her ship ran into.

I wonder why folks are using the attacks upon her and her family as a valid excuse for resigning but still think she's presidential material.

Sorry, but if personal attacks affect you to the point that you have to quit, then what happens when NKor or Iran or some other enemy starts attacking the US?

re: #44 albusteve

he has excellent hair, a killer tan etc

and he's a smart, polished guy. Obama will never rattle him in a debate. Mitt will clean BO's clock in a "mano a mano."

Oh. Is it me? Or has Bolton trimmed his mustache? Kind of liked the Teddy Roosevelt thing he had going on there.

if BO is re-elected I will leave the country and join all those Hollywood stars that split when GWB won

Her resignation doesn't bother me one bit, for some reason. The attacks on this family (even on the little children) from the left have been incredibly vulgar, frenzied, and orgiastic - like nothing we've seen in the history of this country as far as I'm aware - and if she wants to give politics a big, fat F____ YOU back, I have no trouble understanding it.

No matter what she does, she's wrong, according to some people.

All this "she quit on the people of Alaska" stuff is a load of hooey. She had previously announced she was not running again.

Someone should actually ask the people of Alaska how they feel about this.

"She quit" is lefty spin. Nothing more. Does anyone actually listen to what she said? "Attack in another direction", I kind of like that.

I can't believe we're discussing this. Don't you people know Michael Jackson is dead!

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re: #57 Sharmuta

I can't believe we're discussing this. Don't you people know Michael Jackson is dead!

Still?

re: #57 Sharmuta

I can't believe we're discussing this. Don't you people know Michael Jackson is dead!

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Heh.

re: #49 Walter L. Newton

I think we are getting her very clearly now. A quitter. Or would you like to explain it to us?

that's just not fair at this point...she seems to be ineffective...let it play out

The GOP better put up a strong candidate with or instead of Palin, or we're looking @ 8 years of Obama moonbats in Congress shoving all kinds of LLL, nut-job legislation upon Americans. And it better start soon, the LLL is already campaigning for the next 4 years. I don't even want to think about an 8 year Obama administration.

re: #6 pat

. The relentless attacks on Palin's person both by the GOP elite and Democrats, her children, and the derision of the liberals for a retarded child took a toll. Rollins has no such excuse.

Maybe, maybe not. But, if she wants us to believe that these attacks are just too much for her family to bear, does she think it will get any easier if she runs for President? And, what happens if she wins?

Palin quit. She gave up and abdicated her responsibilities of a job she asked for and was given by the people of Alaska. There's no other way to color it. She broke a fiduciary trust with the people who elected her. And, she dares to think she can persuade those same people to do it all over again, only this time with the most important job on the planet?

To use a military analogy, she's just a captain or a major who's resigned her commission, in the middle of a deployment no less. But, she expects to be named Chairman of the Joint Chiefs at some later date, just because she thinks she deserves it. No way.

re: #56 The Shadow Do

All this "she quit on the people of Alaska" stuff is a load of hooey. She had previously announced she was not running again.

Someone should actually ask the people of Alaska how they feel about this.

"She quit" is lefty spin. Nothing more. Does anyone actually listen to what she said? "Attack in another direction", I kind of like that.

She did quit on the people of Alaska ...and whether she runs or not has no bearing on this fact. She is Governor. She quit.

re: #57 Sharmuta

I can't believe we're discussing this. Don't you people know Michael Jackson is dead!

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With all the media coverage and adoring fans, I was expecting a full recovery.

re: #61 sngnsgt

The GOP better put up a strong candidate with or instead of Palin, or we're looking @ 8 years of Obama moonbats in Congress shoving all kinds of LLL, nut-job legislation upon Americans. And it better start soon, the LLL is already campaigning for the next 4 years. I don't even want to think about an 8 year Obama administration.

After 8 years of Obama, even a Hillary presidency would be a relief.

Yes. . . Rollins, that brilliant Republican strategist . . . He's picked up on the pulse of this one all right . . .

re: #63 pink freud

She did quit on the people of Alaska ...and whether she runs or not has no bearing on this fact. She is Governor. She quit.

yes she did...but why?...if she has become a political liability maybe she should step down...running the state is certainly not over her head

re: #65 Salamantis

After 8 years of Obama, even a Hillary presidency would be a relief.

Wasn't there someone named Hillary in the Obama Administration? I forgot what job she held because she disappeared rather quickly.

Didn't Rollins help with Ross Perot's campaign as well?

To all the folk saying she didn't quit-

What do you call it?

re: #49 Walter L. Newton

I think we are getting her very clearly now. A quitter. Or would you like to explain it to us?

I have been agreeing with you more and more lately, Walter, but I have a different take on this one.

What I hear is, "You're a whore, you're kid is a pathetic retard that should have been aborted, your daughters are sluts who'd have sex with anybody, you're a f***ing moron, we're going to harass you out of office and bankrupt you with lawsuits we know are bullshit, we'll make t-shirts calling you a c___ and wear them in public...and then we'll call you a quitter."

Who the hell could blame her? Who else has endured anything like this in American history?

re: #65 Salamantis

Ain't that the truth.

re: #63 pink freud

She did quit on the people of Alaska ...and whether she runs or not has no bearing on this fact. She is Governor. She quit.

Yes she did. But if she felt she could no longer be an effective voice and instrument for the government of Alaska, she was right to step down.

re: #64 DEZes

With all the media coverage and adoring fans, I was expecting a full recovery.

I don't trust any of it...I got one eye open says he's pulled off the biggest PR stunt of all time...

Huckabee is an unelectable caricature. Romney is a Whig: A rich, white, Northeast RINO, and a Mormon to boot. The religious right won't bust their ass to vote for him.

The Republicans need someone who can energize the base and hang on to the rest of the party. So far, no one meets that description...but Sarah Palin has star power and the "little people", the ones who will never read a NYT op-ed, they love her. Love her. It is criminal stupidity to let that kind of star power go to waste. Take her, make her, mold her, package her and she could go a very long way, maybe all the way.

But the Republicans are not called the Stupid Party for nothing. They earned it.

Raise your hand if you have ever quit a job. Did that make you a quitter?
No, of course not. That job was a stepping stone to the next phase of your career.

Contrast Obama's treatment by the Press and his own Party to the treatment of Palin her own Party and the Press...
The O' would never have made it as far had they been reversed in treatment.
Working against the tide wears people out, been there done that she has my sympathies. I doubt that she'll run for POTUS after this, but only time will tell. The piling on of everyone would be interesting to watch if it wasn't sickeningly predictable...

re: #68 MJ

Wasn't there someone named Hillary in the Obama Administration? I forgot what job she held because she disappeared rather quickly.

I think Obama decided that she was part of the vast right-wing conspiracy and iced her outside the sycophantic loop...

re: #67 albusteve

yes she did...but why?...if she has become a political liability maybe she should step down...running the state is certainly not over her head

I have no dog in this fight Steve, but the people of Alaska elected her. She bailed. I don't care why. I certainly don't think she was compromised to the point of being ineffective as Governor.

re: #37 Ayatrollah

I love how so many people don't get SP. Very clear to me she is legit and coming at things with a totally non-traditional way. Not such a bad thing when the DNC and GOP are so screwed up. All she has to do is say boo and everybody jumps, that will not change. I think you have to come from small town America to really understand her.

I don't love how she is held up as a typical small town American, woman, with guts, as if that makes for presidential material. I know, like, and respect lots of women, and men, in that category, but I wouldn't vote for them as president of the USA.

I could see myself voting for her in Alaska, if I lived there, but I would be mighty pissed if she threw away my vote this way for her personal ambitions, whatever the hell they are.

Those who downdinged me above for saying essentially the same thing have tunnel vision.

re: #70 altermite

To all the folk saying she didn't quit-

What do you call it?

Getting out of harm's way and moving on.

re: #75 SurferDoc

She surely attracts female voters, something the GOP really needs right now.

re: #71 capitalist piglet

I have been agreeing with you more and more lately, Walter, but I have a different take on this one.

What I hear is, "You're a whore, you're kid is a pathetic retard that should have been aborted, your daughters are sluts who'd have sex with anybody, you're a f***ing moron, we're going to harass you out of office and bankrupt you with lawsuits we know are bullshit, we'll make t-shirts calling you a c___ and wear them in public...and then we'll call you a quitter."

Who the hell could blame her? Who else has endured anything like this in American history?

To be blunt? Almost any big-time politician gets hit with vile slanders and frivolous lawsuits by assholes.

Sarah Palin scares the piss out of the left. Seriously, they leave puddles.

Why do they still pay so much attention to her? Why do the vicious attacks continue?

re: #71 capitalist piglet

I have been agreeing with you more and more lately, Walter, but I have a different take on this one.

What I hear is, "You're a whore, you're kid is a pathetic retard that should have been aborted, your daughters are sluts who'd have sex with anybody, you're a f***ing moron, we're going to harass you out of office and bankrupt you with lawsuits we know are bullshit, we'll make t-shirts calling you a c___ and wear them in public...and then we'll call you a quitter."

Who the hell could blame her? Who else has endured anything like this in American history?

I can't agree with you more. I wouldn't blame her for saying , "F*ck it!"

re: #79 pink freud

I have no dog in this fight Steve, but the people of Alaska elected her. She bailed. I don't care why. I certainly don't think she was compromised to the point of being ineffective as Governor.

I'm only staying open minded...it's folly to speculate really, there has to be more to it to make a clean judgement...it's the old benefit of the doubt thing for me

re: #63 pink freud

She did quit on the people of Alaska ...and whether she runs or not has no bearing on this fact. She is Governor. She quit.

Yup, she quit a lame duck post. So what? Why do you even care?

re: #71 capitalist piglet

I have been agreeing with you more and more lately, Walter, but I have a different take on this one.

What I hear is, "You're a whore, you're kid is a pathetic retard that should have been aborted, your daughters are sluts who'd have sex with anybody, you're a f***ing moron, we're going to harass you out of office and bankrupt you with lawsuits we know are bullshit, we'll make t-shirts calling you a c___ and wear them in public...and then we'll call you a quitter."

Who the hell could blame her? Who else has endured anything like this in American history?

I'm not even coming close to putting her down when I use the word quit. But that's what she did. I've made decisions to take highroads and walk away from certain situations in the past.

Did it for my sanity and well being. And perhaps she is doing that too.

But, just as mush as my walking away indicates what I can or won't put up with, or deal with, well, the same can be said for her.

So, on a personal level, probably a good move on her part, on an executive political level, she quit, bad move.

We should understand the difference.

She quit. As to why? Only Gov. Palin knows. The frivolous lawsuits were getting out of hand. The constant barrage of mega negative comments from the msm and other talking heads had to take a toll. Wish she'd of stuck out her term though.

Obsession is such an ugly thing.

re: #71 capitalist piglet

Who the hell could blame her? Who else has endured anything like this in American history?

I amazed that we, as Americans, demand that candidates accept and tolerate behavior towards themselves and their families that we ourselves, would not.

re: #75 SurferDoc

Romney is a Whig: A rich, white, Northeast RINO, and a Mormon to boot. The religious right won't bust their ass to vote for him.

i think Romney will appeal to more Christians than he turns off. And the religious right as you call it will give Romney a fair shake after 4 years of the current administration. I do agree with you on Huckabee. He's a glorified snake oil peddler.

re: #71 capitalist piglet

I have been agreeing with you more and more lately, Walter, but I have a different take on this one.

What I hear is, "You're a whore, you're kid is a pathetic retard that should have been aborted, your daughters are sluts who'd have sex with anybody, you're a f***ing moron, we're going to harass you out of office and bankrupt you with lawsuits we know are bullshit, we'll make t-shirts calling you a c___ and wear them in public...and then we'll call you a quitter."

Who the hell could blame her? Who else has endured anything like this in American history?

I might agree with you, and her, on that IF she had simply come out and said that she was quitting because of the toll it was all taking on her family.

She didn't say that did she? Instead she is playing coy with the political aspect, and that I don't respect.

We don't know why she quit. Quite a lot of people are assigning a negative conatation to it. Quite a lot of the people who assign a negative connatation to Sarah Palin withdrawing from the clown-dunking booth she found herself in, didn't like her anyway. Something about being a punching bag must have rubbed her the wrong way, especially since the state of Alaska was bearing the liability and the cost of these petty antagonists. Now comes the whining because she won't hold still and take a kicking.

She sure is dumb. Her political carreer is completely over.

Yew betcha.

I'm going IN to work ... see y'all later!

re: #83 altermite

To be blunt? Almost any big-time politician gets hit with vile slanders and frivolous lawsuits by assholes.

Well, name one who has been called a c*** in public. Name one with a disabled child whose life has already been made vile blog fodder. Name one whose underage daughter was the punchline of a sex joke on national fucking television.

Help me out here.

I'll tell you what's bullshit. Acting like this is equivalent to what any Democrat has gone through.

re: #90 Salem

Obsession is such an ugly thing.

You keep saying that, over and over.
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She drops lame-duck status like a hot potato. Moves on with her life and doesn't care what you think. No time to screw around just lookin' for what's next. (And she could care less about the jokes)

such a mysterious, complex life we lead...nothing is for certain in these trying times...we are but one sheaf in the entire toilet paper roll of life....

Don't forget the half mil lawsuits she has attracted just for standing up. Sick ass shit, that is.

Er,um, didn't Hillary Clinton quit as NY Senator after promising to serve her term?

re: #83 altermite
No one, not even Nixon put up with this level of hostility and hatred. The msm likes most any 3rd world dictator than Sarah Palin. You as a public figure, senator, rep, pres, etc..are fair game. Families are supposed to be off limits. Not this time, and this will probably become SOP for the left in future elections.

Ed Rollins. One of the people advising Huckapoo and giving us John McCain as a candidate. I'd love to kick his ass with a steel toed boot.

re: #83 altermite

To be blunt? Almost any big-time politician gets hit with vile slanders and frivolous lawsuits by assholes.

18 ethics complaints in the last 8 months. Each one takes time and money to defend. This isn't "normal'.

[Link: www.newsminer.com...]

re: #101 SurferDoc

Er,um, didn't Hillary Clinton quit as NY Senator after promising to serve her term?

I think she also lost a nomination race that everybody thought she was a shoo-in to win, too.

re: #96 capitalist piglet

Well, name one who has been called a c*** in public. Name one with a disabled child whose life has already been made vile blog fodder. Name one whose underage daughter was the punchline of a sex joke on national fucking television.

Help me out here.

I'll tell you what's bullshit. Acting like this is equivalent to what any Democrat has gone through.

Right on.

re: #15 SurferDoc

The Governor's Office was the only place she was vulnerable to significant political and financial attack. They were going to nickle and dime her to death until the end of her term. She has now closed that door on them.

Not in these days of oppo research, computerized records, and media complicity with the Democrats. Remember the Bush drunk driving revelation in 2000? At least the facts were true. The 2004 National Guard scam was pure fabrication, and they might have gotten away with it.

People who like her won't mind that she resigned. People who don't like her will hate whatever she does.

And people like me, who are undecided? I can't picture a scenario in which I'd support her again.
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I'm still not sure how much of this is on Palin and how much is on the GOP for failing to look after their own.

re: #103 kynna

Ed Rollins. One of the people advising Huckapoo and giving us John McCain as a candidate. I'd love to kick his ass with a steel toed boot.

Exactly, note how he doesn't just go after Palin, but also Romney here. He's running the Hapless Huckster again in 14.

re: #97 Walter L. Newton

You keep saying that, over and over.
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That would make me obsessive-compulsive. Kinda.

I don't know if she has any future in politics but she will only be 52 in 2016.

It's so true. Like with that other guy who ran last year. The one no one heard of and whose chief accomplishment was voting present all the time. If you don't do what the pundits say, you're dead moose meat.

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re: #84 Racer X

Sarah Palin scares the piss out of the left. Seriously, they leave puddles.

Why do they still pay so much attention to her? Why do the vicious attacks continue?

She also scares the pi$$ out of the entrenched Rep Beltway 'good old boys'.

re: #93 Naso Tang

She didn't say that did she? Instead she is playing coy with the political aspect, and that I don't respect.

Lots of respect for her before this moment no doubt...

re: #93 Naso Tang

I might agree with you, and her, on that IF she had simply come out and said that she was quitting because of the toll it was all taking on her family.

She didn't say that did she? Instead she is playing coy with the political aspect, and that I don't respect.

She said that her family voted on the decision, didn't she? That was the clip I heard on the radio. She said all but one voted "yes", and the one that didn't voted "hell yes".

Can you imagine what this has been like for them? If it was just about her, I wonder if she would have just slugged it out. To have put up with it this long satisfies my need to know she's a strong woman.

re: #82 sngnsgt

She surely attracts female voters, something the GOP really needs right now.

She surely doesn't attract female voters. She repels them. The exit polling was clear on this. Sarah Palin hurt the Republican ticket with women. I can't explain it, but it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Palin also hurt the ticket with educated, professional and suburbanite men and women. These folks used to be the staple, the bread and butter of the Republican party.

Gov. Palin's decision to quit as Alaska's Governor did take me by surprise at first though on reflection I can't think of a single defeated VP nominee that has taken such flak on a professional and personal level. If this her way of returning to normalcy and obscurity, well what can we do to stop her. If it's to concentrate on a run for the Senate only time will tell if it was the right choice.

I get the feeling I've heard all this before...bartender!

re: #115 JarHeadLifer

She surely doesn't attract female voters. She repels them. The exit polling was clear on this. Sarah Palin hurt the Republican ticket with women. I can't explain it, but it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Palin also hurt the ticket with educated, professional and suburbanite men and women. These folks used to be the staple, the bread and butter of the Republican party.

Link?

This is absolutely contrary to everything I've heard.

Interesting would be if she ran for the RNC instead of POTUS...

$5 if you can name all of M Jacksons forlorn children

Pay no attention to the bozo who is actually destroying the country, lets focus on the media-raped woman who just wants to be left alone. Yep, that's cutting political discourse, there.

re: #121 Salem

Pay no attention to the bozo who is actually destroying the country, lets focus on the media-raped woman who just wants to be left alone. Yep, that's cutting political discourse, there.

DRINK!

re: #102 pingjockey

No one, not even Nixon put up with this level of hostility and hatred. The msm likes most any 3rd world dictator than Sarah Palin. You as a public figure, senator, rep, pres, etc..are fair game. Families are supposed to be off limits. Not this time, and this will probably become SOP for the left in future elections.

Then let's get with the program. Why are we being so nice? Hell, 100 years ago, candidates where publicly calling each other liars and cheats. All kind of charges and slanders were made in the yellow newspapers, there was almost nothing that was hands off.

So, hit back, play their game. It's the left who have blown so much politically correct smoke in our face (while they practice none of it) that we have become convinced that we just all need to get along.

Civil discourse my ass.

What happened to a fiery speech, a rousing rhetoric, a little populist condescending campaign ads? We've wimped out, while the left has been cutting their teeth on snark.

How long was President Hopeandchange a Senator before he started running for Prez? How many bills did he sponsor? I don't remember.

re: #41 anotherindyfilmguy

It's one thing to fight for yourself and others but another to fight on when the people you are fighting for piss all over you just for you trying to fight for them in addition to your enemies. Add to that the fact that this far after the elections are long over she is still under constant attack with frivolous unfounded lawsuits and a press corp that is still searching for anything to bury her with. Perhaps she just wants to step out of the public life or at least get the attacks off of her family. Realistically if she were to run for POTUS she'd be running against her own party and all of it's enemies for a job that is hard enough to get even when your own party lines up to help... Maybe she just had enough and is a canary in the coal mine supposed Republicans should pay attention to...

I think you're on to something. It's worth looking at the bigger picture here and thinking about what will likely happen to candidates who oppose Obama in the future.

Just for the record, I am not a Palinophyte or whatever.

I am just really disgusted by the complete lack of respect she has been shown from many corners. I object to the elitists in particular. They are trailer trash with a sophisticated vocabulary.

Governor Palin continues to expose the problem(s) with/in the Republican Party.

re: #120 albusteve

$5 if you can name all of M Jacksons forlorn children

$10 if you don't, ENOUGH M Jackson, he's still dead!

re: #123 Walter L. Newton

Then let's get with the program. Why are we being so nice? Hell, 100 years ago, candidates where publicly calling each other liars and cheats. All kind of charges and slanders were made in the yellow newspapers, there was almost nothing that was hands off.

So, hit back, play their game. It's the left who have blown so much politically correct smoke in our face (while they practice none of it) that we have become convinced that we just all need to get along.

Civil discourse my ass.

What happened to a fiery speech, a rousing rhetoric, a little populist condescending campaign ads? We've wimped out, while the left has been cutting their teeth on snark.

dissent is the backbone of American politics...sometimes it requires less temperance and more ass kicking

Quitting in general is never a good idea in a career. Most of the "I told you so's" about Palin are from people who have an internal problem with a woman in the POTUS office, and a family value woman at that. It is something that scares people into irrationality. She's the wrong type of woman for them. Regardless that they don't really know that much at all about her. All we experience is the avalanche of snide insults delivered by the MSM. People apply a standard to her that they wouldn't apply to a President Bush or a President Obama. An abusive standard. Projection of weak doesn't help her, these people will abuse her more.

The news conference was a none starter for me. Nice scenery. She is attractive. I could see emotion in her. But I'm not too interested in vague analogies that don't really clear the air. I hope she has made a decision for something better in her restart.

Charles; The site is much improved today, everything back to snappy normal response time, what did Hosting Matters find?

re: #113 The Shadow Do

Lots of respect for her before this moment no doubt...

Did I smell a sarc? I had no reason to disrespect her before, but she never gave me reason to think she was competent to lead this country. Sorry to disappoint.

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop. There is a ton of rmours out there that, for the time being are just that rumours, but do fit a larger story.

re: #128 sngnsgt

$10 if you don't, ENOUGH M Jackson, he's still dead!

NO!....128hr rule

re: #129 albusteve

dissent is the backbone of American politics...sometimes it requires less temperance and more ass kicking

Up ding to you Mathew Harrison Brady!

re: #118 Wendya

Link?

This is absolutely contrary to everything I've heard.

Sixty-nine percent (69%) of Republican voters say Alaska Governor Sarah Palin helped John McCain’s bid for the presidency, even as news reports surface that some McCain staffers think she was a liability.

Only 20% of GOP voters say Palin hurt the party’s ticket, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Six percent (6%) say she had no impact, and five percent (5%) are undecided.

Ninety-one percent (91%) of Republicans have a favorable view of Palin, including 65% who say their view is Very Favorable. Only eight percent (8%) have an unfavorable view of her, including three percent (3%) Very Unfavorable.

[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

re: #128 sngnsgt

$10 if you don't, ENOUGH M Jackson, he's still dead!

Pay me in small, unmarked dimes....

re: #98 voirdire

She drops lame-duck status like a hot potato. Moves on with her life and doesn't care what you think. No time to screw around just lookin' for what's next. (And she could care less about the jokes)

There's a line Holly Hunter's character (Penny) utters in O Brother when she's standing her ground, no if ands or buts. "I've spoken my piece and I've counted to three."

They're not bona fide, Sarah. You were right to walk away.

I suggest we wait and see what happens. All these people with all these opinions ... most of them will be wrong no matter what happens.

Over a dozen scenarios have been floated by so-called experts. Most will be wrong. When was the last time anything worked out the way it was predicted.

Remember when Obama first appeared? He was an amateur that the Hillary machine was going to crush. Now the people who made that prediction are pontificating on Palin.

#115 JarHeadLifer

She surely doesn't attract female voters. She repels them. The exit polling was clear on this. Sarah Palin hurt the Republican ticket with women. I can't explain it, but it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Palin also hurt the ticket with educated, professional and suburbanite men and women. These folks used to be the staple, the bread and butter of the Republican party.

Really? I think McCain is the one who hurt the ticket. All the women (educated to boot) that I know loved her. In fact I don't know one female who was "repelled" by Palin. That's leftist b.s. Repeating this over and over, well, people begin to believe it. Obviously she didn't do too badly with the vote almost split down the middle; I certainly don't recall Obama winning by a landslide - or maybe he has by now - if people keep saying he did.

re: #132 Naso Tang

Did I smell a sarc? I had no reason to disrespect her before, but she never gave me reason to think she was competent to lead this country. Sorry to disappoint.

Where does Obama/Biden rank on your competency meter?

re: #135 Walter L. Newton

Up ding to you Mathew Harrison Brady!

I'm a three time loser too...

re: #123 Walter L. Newton
I agree 100 percent. McCain and the let's be civil shit can go to hell. The one is a goddamn socialist, his policies are going to bankrupt this country, but lets be nice. BULLSHIT. Ted Kennedy is an alcoholic murderer, Robt. Byrd is a goddamn Kluxer, Pelosi, Reid ,et al are fucking crooks, Murtha is a traitor, Jon Halp Uz Kary is a fucking traitor, and my side wants to fight nice. Fuck that shit.

BBL, Lizards. Happy Independence Day!

And- play nice.

re: #131 Thanos

Charles; The site is much improved today, everything back to snappy normal response time, what did Hosting Matters find?

Yeah, my connection to lgf is back to normal.

OT. Bought tape yesterday. On purpose, did not buy "Scotch Tape".

re: #141 The Shadow Do

Where does Obama/Biden rank on your competency meter?

I voted for McCain and guess who, but I don't want Obama to fail, along with the rest of us.

Does that answer it?

Update, Michal Jackson is still dead,
Ed Rollins still chews gum off republicans shoe soles....

SARAH!.....come BAAAAAAAAAAACK!

re: #101 SurferDoc

Er,um, didn't Hillary Clinton quit as NY Senator after promising to serve her term?

TOTUS was a Senator for a whole two years.

/and he spent all that time campaigning for TOTUS

re: #140 ladycatnip

#115 JarHeadLifer

Really? I think McCain is the one who hurt the ticket. All the women (educated to boot) that I know loved her. In fact I don't know one female who was "repelled" by Palin. That's leftist b.s. Repeating this over and over, well, people begin to believe it. Obviously she didn't do too badly with the vote almost split down the middle; I certainly don't recall Obama winning by a landslide - or maybe he has by now - if people keep saying he did.

Palin was the only life the McCain campaign had.

re: #147 Naso Tang

I voted for McCain and guess who, but I don't want Obama to fail, along with the rest of us.

Does that answer it?

Do you want his policies to succeed?

re: #143 pingjockey

I agree 100 percent. McCain and the let's be civil shit can go to hell. The one is a goddamn socialist, his policies are going to bankrupt this country, but lets be nice. BULLSHIT. Ted Kennedy is an alcoholic murderer, Robt. Byrd is a goddamn Kluxer, Pelosi, Reid ,et al are fucking crooks, Murtha is a traitor, Jon Halp Uz Kary is a fucking traitor, and my side wants to fight nice. Fuck that shit.

Ding, ding, ding, give this persona hot dog and a beer. Happy July 4th. That's what I call fireworks.

I'm going to a local "Tea Party". I'll hunt for Paulians, okay?

re: #145 Killgore Trout

Yeah, my connection to lgf is back to normal.

I think it was my fault. My modem died. Finally got a new one.

re: #118 Wendya

Link?

This is absolutely contrary to everything I've heard.

You can look around and find some other similar results and analysis, but here's one from PEW Research.

[Link: people-press.org...]

and a quote from it...

"In addition, Sarah Palin appears to be a continuing – if not an increasing – drag on the GOP ticket. Currently, 49% of voters express an unfavorable opinion of Palin, while 44% have a favorable view. In mid-September, favorable opinions of Palin outnumbered negative ones by 54% to 32%. Women, especially women under age 50, have become increasingly critical of Palin: 60% now express an unfavorable view of Palin, up from 36% in mid-September. Notably, opinions of Palin have a greater impact on voting intentions than do opinions of Joe Biden, Obama’s running mate."

This was a poll taken before election day. But, if you look at the actual election day exit polls, it's clear that Palin was a drag on the ticket for everyone but the base.

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

re: #130 hazzyday

"Quitting in general is never a good idea in a career."
Gasp! You mean I should have stayed a Piggly Wiggly cashier, forever? First job at 16.

#124 Canadian Club Akbar

How long was President Hopeandchange a Senator before he started running for Prez? How many bills did he sponsor? I don't remember, I don't recall.

fify

re: #140 ladycatnip

#115 JarHeadLifer

Really? I think McCain is the one who hurt the ticket. All the women (educated to boot) that I know loved her. In fact I don't know one female who was "repelled" by Palin. That's leftist b.s. Repeating this over and over, well, people begin to believe it. Obviously she didn't do too badly with the vote almost split down the middle; I certainly don't recall Obama winning by a landslide - or maybe he has by now - if people keep saying he did.

Of the women I personally know (flesh and blood not only know online but face to face friends and family) who don't like Sarah Palin, they are all leftist. And nearly all don't just dislike, it is vehement hatred. I've never seen that side of some. She really brought out the dark and nasty on the left. A whole different story with conservative women.

BBL (or tomorrow, or sometime).

re: #143 pingjockey

I agree 100 percent. McCain and the let's be civil shit can go to hell. The one is a goddamn socialist, his policies are going to bankrupt this country, but lets be nice. BULLSHIT. Ted Kennedy is an alcoholic murderer, Robt. Byrd is a goddamn Kluxer, Pelosi, Reid ,et al are fucking crooks, Murtha is a traitor, Jon Halp Uz Kary is a fucking traitor, and my side wants to fight nice. Fuck that shit.

I have said all along....whoever puts their political career on the line and goes for broke will become a national hero, buy some time, make some speeches on the Capital steps...forget your hairdo and go out and take down T Kennedy and his gang...pound it and drive it home...bring all the facts and prepare to bleed or even die...nobody has the guts to do it

re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm going to a local "Tea Party". I'll hunt for Paulians, okay?

I'll report back tonight.

re: #159 Silvergirl

Of the women I personally know (flesh and blood not only know online but face to face friends and family) who don't like Sarah Palin, they are all leftist. And nearly all don't just dislike, it is vehement hatred. I've never seen that side of some. She really brought out the dark and nasty on the left. A whole different story with conservative women.

Bingo.

re: #153 Walter L. Newton
Sorry Walter, no I take that back I'm not. I'm sick and tired of Repubs taking shit. Thing is, I'm a Reagan/Goldwater conservative and at the moment there doesn't seem to be any or few on the right. The ones that are small c conservative are also (most of them seem to be) batshit crazy YECers, IDers, or other nutjob socons. Makes me want to run amok with a freakin' clue bat!

re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Have fun!

re: #79 pink freud

I have no dog in this fight Steve, but the people of Alaska elected her. She bailed. I don't care why. I certainly don't think she was compromised to the point of being ineffective as Governor.

I agree here. When you say you don't care that gets you wrapped up on the abuser side. Capitalist Piglet put the case forward of her unique circumstances.

No one in the history of the world expect for Jesus Christ was feted and worshipped like Pres Obama "by the media". Even though he is a NeoCom.

Sarah Palin was used as his foil. She was a target for all the worst in people on the same scale as Pres Obama. And she was given less support.

She has uniquely experienced something no one else in the world has. And has carried it pretty well. The resignation is definitely a result of these events. Whether it is a good thing or a bad thing for Gov. Palin is probably up to her.

Just the fact that she doesn't want her young daughters to be a target of dirty old pedophiles like David Letterman in the front page of national magazines is probably enough motive to move to a stronger place in life.

If this is a bid for the presidency it's strange and unprecedented. It will almost certainly not work. I'm still thinking she's bracing for a personal/legal scandal to break. It's the only way this move makes sense. There's also the possibility that there's a serious illness in the family or something like that.
If she was being honest about her reasons for leaving then her political career is over with. What if she gets elected into a public office again? It might be difficult. She might get criticized. Would she quit the presidency because it's too hard?
Either way, I think she's probably sunk for good. She could get speaking gigs for right wing crowds or a TV show but her political career is over with.

re: #140 ladycatnip

#115 JarHeadLifer

Really? I think McCain is the one who hurt the ticket. All the women (educated to boot) that I know loved her. In fact I don't know one female who was "repelled" by Palin. That's leftist b.s. Repeating this over and over, well, people begin to believe it. Obviously she didn't do too badly with the vote almost split down the middle; I certainly don't recall Obama winning by a landslide - or maybe he has by now - if people keep saying he did.

You'll forgive me if I'm not compelled by your anecdotal evidence. I'll take quantitative and qualitative analysis every time. If you can provide any data that supports your position other than "what your friends think", I'd be happy to review it.

Of the exit polls I've seen, most indicate that at least 60% of the people who voted on election day didn't feel Palin was competent to be either Vice-President or President. That's not helping the ticket, that's hurting hit. By comparison, those same polls indicated that 70% of the people (or more) felt Biden was competent.

re: #143 pingjockey

Yes, drop the sticks and gloves, we got ourselves a real Hockey fight going on here! Clear the benches and both goalies skate to the center of the ice, time to throw down!

re: #143 pingjockey

I agree 100 percent. McCain and the let's be civil shit can go to hell. The one is a goddamn socialist, his policies are going to bankrupt this country, but lets be nice. BULLSHIT. Ted Kennedy is an alcoholic murderer, Robt. Byrd is a goddamn Kluxer, Pelosi, Reid ,et al are fucking crooks, Murtha is a traitor, Jon Halp Uz Kary is a fucking traitor, and my side wants to fight nice. Fuck that shit.

You should have ran. That does sound like what should have been said.

re: #161 albusteve
They all want the msm to like them. Asshats. The msm will never like any conservative. Hell, A. Lincoln could come back and the msm would tell him the Civil War is a quagmire.

re: #147 Naso Tang

I voted for McCain and guess who, but I don't want Obama to fail, along with the rest of us.

Does that answer it?

Sopmewhat, though the Obama fail thing is a bit of a strawman or perhaps just a meaningless reference. But that's OK.

I, for one, do indeed he hope he fails to deliver us unto Socialism though that does not seem likely at present.

re: #152 Wendya

Do you want his policies to succeed?

Not necessarily, but neither would I advocate opposing them (all) to the point of suicide. Our system is not winner take all even though it seems that way sometimes.

Unfortunately the loudest Republicans these days seem more interested in things like gay marriage, abortion, the good old days and, dare I say, evolution than formulating strong plans.

re: #156 JarHeadLifer

This was a poll taken before election day. But, if you look at the actual election day exit polls, it's clear that Palin was a drag on the ticket for everyone but the base.

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

Actually, it shows that black people voted for Obama because he's black.

re: #151 Syrah

Palin was the only life the McCain campaign had.

Palin certainly fired up the base, and gave him the "life" you speak of. But, the paradox of her selection is that she also sealed his fate as a loser. She alienated the people McCain needed to actually win the election.

headed out for the ABQ tea party....Adolf Hiter is speaking and I want to get an autograph if I can....he'll probably be mobbed by adoring right wing conservative but I'm gonna try

re: #164 pingjockey

Sorry Walter, no I take that back I'm not. I'm sick and tired of Repubs taking shit. Thing is, I'm a Reagan/Goldwater conservative and at the moment there doesn't seem to be any or few on the right. The ones that are small c conservative are also (most of them seem to be) batshit crazy YECers, IDers, or other nutjob socons. Makes me want to run amok with a freakin' clue bat!

That makes them big C Conservatives. Small c conservatives aren't nutjobs because being a nutjob is not small c conservative.

It was not Sarah Palin that was a drag on the McCain ticket, it was Tina Fey, most everybody in this country thought it was Sarah that said she could see Russia from her house, she did not. Sarah Palin was filling up arenas without the help of free concerts, that the media never mentioned.

re: #176 albusteve
Heh! Have fun, take lotsa water!

We need a poll about why she quit. Depending on the choice, I'll probably take "none of the above".

re: #157 Fluffy Bunny

"Quitting in general is never a good idea in a career."
Gasp! You mean I should have stayed a Piggly Wiggly cashier, forever? First job at 16.

You could be VP in that back room customer service area customers can't get to by now. Quitting to move to a better opportunity is good. Quitting to languish on welfare checks is bad. I did the latter. It was a mistake.

re: #175 JarHeadLifer

Palin certainly fired up the base, and gave him the "life" you speak of. But, the paradox of her selection is that she also sealed his fate as a loser. She alienated the people McCain needed to actually win the election.

John McCain alienated the people he need to win to win. Frankly, I don't think any Republican could have won given what Bush and Congress accomplished.

re: #177 SFGoth
Crap. You're right, I think. Mangled metaphors.

re: #159 Silvergirl

Of the women I personally know (flesh and blood not only know online but face to face friends and family) who don't like Sarah Palin, they are all leftist. And nearly all don't just dislike, it is vehement hatred. I've never seen that side of some. She really brought out the dark and nasty on the left. A whole different story with conservative women.

Amazing isn't it? And the left's vitriol continues to this day. Maybe it's because she doesn't write crappy/depressing poetry and talk about how a woman is 'better' or more 'free" or more 'enlightened' if she isn't in a partnership with a man, especially if the man happens to be the father of her children.

re: #175 JarHeadLifer

Palin certainly fired up the base, and gave him the "life" you speak of. But, the paradox of her selection is that she also sealed his fate as a loser. She alienated the people McCain needed to actually win the election.

Those people alienated themselves. She just needed more Sarah face time with them.

re: #161 albusteve

I have said all along....whoever puts their political career on the line and goes for broke will become a national hero, buy some time, make some speeches on the Capital steps...forget your hairdo and go out and take down T Kennedy and his gang...pound it and drive it home...bring all the facts and prepare to bleed or even die...nobody has the guts to do it

and if you flap your arms while you speak and sound exasperated and whiny you will be Ron Paul and pull 3 pct.

re: #180 HelloDare

We need a poll about why she quit. Depending on the choice, I'll probably take "none of the above".

How about a poll on those who think she owes everyone a clear answer?

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Me?

Romney/Bolton!

One for the money.
One for the kick-ass.

I would support that. I would also support Palin on either position on a ticket. There are some I would not support. Huck and Jindal spring to mind, but apparently Jindal's not going to be in the running according to Sharm's link.

re: #175 JarHeadLifer

Palin certainly fired up the base, and gave him the "life" you speak of. But, the paradox of her selection is that she also sealed his fate as a loser. She alienated the people McCain needed to actually win the election.

They were not going to vote for McCain no mater who he made his VP.
Any presidential campaign that is hurt by its choice of VP is doomed to fail anyway.

The top of the ticket makes or breaks the ticket.

There was no reason to argue for why people should vote FOR McCain except that he was not Obama.

re: #175 JarHeadLifer

Palin certainly fired up the base, and gave him the "life" you speak of. But, the paradox of her selection is that she also sealed his fate as a loser. She alienated the people McCain needed to actually win the election.

Nonsense. McCain ran a crappy campaign and would have lost with a larger margin if it had not been for Sarah on the ticket.

re: #164 pingjockey

Sorry Walter, no I take that back I'm not. I'm sick and tired of Repubs taking shit. Thing is, I'm a Reagan/Goldwater conservative and at the moment there doesn't seem to be any or few on the right. The ones that are small c conservative are also (most of them seem to be) batshit crazy YECers, IDers, or other nutjob socons. Makes me want to run amok with a freakin' clue bat!

Yes a clue bat would be a good campaign product.

re: #189 Syrah
Yep. The message was murky at best. At worst it came across as democrat lite.

re: #189 Syrah

They were not going to vote for McCain no mater who he made his VP.
Any presidential campaign that is hurt by its choice of VP is doomed to fail anyway.

The top of the ticket makes or breaks the ticket.

There was no reason to argue for why people should vote FOR McCain except that he was not Obama.

Hell, by the time the campaign was over, I was wondering if McCain even voted for himself.

re: #159 Silvergirl

. And nearly all don't just dislike, it is vehement hatred. I've never seen that side of some. She really brought out the dark and nasty on the left.

Yes, she did. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass what leftist women think about a republican candidate. They will never vote for anyone with an R after their name so I see no reason to pander to them.

re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

OT. Bought tape yesterday. On purpose, did not buy "Scotch Tape".

No true scotch tape will stick to that crap.

re: #193 capitalist piglet

Hell, by the time the campaign was over, I was wondering if McCain even voted for himself.

McCain sealed his doom when he announced that the US economy was fundamentally sound right before the big crash.

re: #182 SFGoth

John McCain alienated the people he need to win to win. Frankly, I don't think any Republican could have won given what Bush and Congress accomplished.

That's exactly right. The last election was the Dems to lose. The country elected a man with no experience, a dubious past filled with despicable characters, and still they could not lose. I found it surprising the election was a close as it was.

re: #191 hazzyday

Yes a clue bat would be a good campaign product.

Seeing those in use at a convention would be priceless.

You know what? It's the Fourth of July, I'm going to have fun and celebrate, I'll come back after you all are through uselessly rehashing last election for the umptee-eth time

re: #187 Naso Tang

How about a poll on those who think she owes everyone a clear answer?

It's not clear because people don't believe her. And it was rambling. She could have used a teleprompter. And fewer ducks squawking in the background.

#156 & 168 JarHeadLifer

If Palin hurt the ticket so much why didn't Obama win by a landslide?

Later on folks!

re: #167 Killgore Trout

If this is a bid for the presidency it's strange and unprecedented. It will almost certainly not work. I'm still thinking she's bracing for a personal/legal scandal to break. It's the only way this move makes sense. There's also the possibility that there's a serious illness in the family or something like that.
If she was being honest about her reasons for leaving then her political career is over with. What if she gets elected into a public office again? It might be difficult. She might get criticized. Would she quit the presidency because it's too hard?
Either way, I think she's probably sunk for good. She could get speaking gigs for right wing crowds or a TV show but her political career is over with.

You want it to be a scandal because you love seeing conservatives go down in flames.

How does quitting as governor "brace" her for a scandal?

re: #187 Naso Tang

How about a poll on those who think she owes everyone a clear answer?

She doesn't owe me anything, what she does with her life is her choice. We'll find out the details about this in the coming news cycle head after all the speculation done and out of the way.

re: #199 Thanos

While Dems celebrate the invasion of the west Indies!

Time to get ready for company. Have a great 4th everyone.

re: #200 HelloDare

It's not clear because people don't believe her. And it was rambling. She could have used a teleprompter. And fewer ducks squawking in the background.

She did use a teleprompter. In some of the video footage, you can see a guy kneeling in front of her with a towel/blanket draped around him. He's holding a hand-held teleprompter. That's what makes her performance even more puzzling. That was a prepared text she was reading.

re: #204 Idle Drifter

The same thought crossed my mind last night. Where in the hell do people get off thinking everyone always owes them something?

Funny thing. Sarah Palin was running for vice-presidency.This is pretty much a figurehead position, with no real power. Yet people act as if she was trying for the presidency itself. Tell me one vice-president candidate who has garnered this much attention and vitriol. ....They are afraid of her. They don't think she is stupid. They don't think she is dishonest. They don't want her in the competition. She is a V-8 engine and they are running straight sixes. These "ethics" complaints are solely to paint her as unethical, and to raise to operating expenses of the office of Governor to make her look immoral or inefficient...and now she's bailed out of the game.

In the movies, this is the part where the bad guys have the hero holed up in a building, and he disappears. No one has read the script, so they don't know if the hero is going to escape to a desert island and live in paradise, or circle around and blow the crap out of them.

But NPR is being awfully polite about this. That is the wisest position; If the snake has been decapitated, they look charitable, if the snake still has fangs, they have not placed themselves in danger.
Meanwhile, the monkeys are shrieking, and jumping up and down.

But then, they always did.

re: #204 Idle Drifter

She doesn't owe me anything, what she does with her life is her choice. We'll find out the details about this in the coming news cycle head after all the speculation done and out of the way.

I disagree. Politicians who have a career based on their public image do owe the public certain things. You don't owe me anything, but she had my vote once. She owes me something, not to mention the people of Alaska.

re: #201 ladycatnip

Lyndon Johnson's 61.1% to Barry Goldwater's 38.5% in the 1964 presidential election
Franklin D. Roosevelt's 60.8% to Alf Landon's 36.5% in the 1936 presidential election
Richard Nixon's 60.7% to George McGovern's 37.5% in the 1972 presidential election
Warren Harding's 60.3% to James M. Cox's 34.1% in the 1920 presidential election
Ronald Reagan's 58.8% to Walter Mondale's 40.6% in the 1984 presidential election
Theodore Roosevelt's 56.4% to Alton B. Parker's 37.6% in the 1904 presidential election

Anybody missing from that list?

re: #203 KingKenrod

How does quitting as governor "brace" her for a scandal?

Because the transition to a new governor is already in place and she doesn't have to be removed from office. It saves the chaos of having to scramble and avoids the embarrassment of being impeached.

re: #196 Salamantis

McCain sealed his doom when he announced that the US economy was fundamentally sound right before the big crash.

I voted for him, but he lost me in spirit when he told that man in Wisconsin that he had nothing to fear from an Obama presidency. How could he possibly believe that?

"Fight with me", my ass.

re: #207 JarHeadLifer

Didn't know that. Surprising. Sounded like she went off script.

re: #123 Walter L. Newton

Then let's get with the program. Why are we being so nice? Hell, 100 years ago, candidates where publicly calling each other liars and cheats. All kind of charges and slanders were made in the yellow newspapers, there was almost nothing that was hands off.

So, hit back, play their game. It's the left who have blown so much politically correct smoke in our face (while they practice none of it) that we have become convinced that we just all need to get along.

Civil discourse my ass.

What happened to a fiery speech, a rousing rhetoric, a little populist condescending campaign ads? We've wimped out, while the left has been cutting their teeth on snark.

If you believe this, then why are you so down on Palin?

She's definitely not quitting! I was clear to me from watching her press conference that she wants to get out there and do some good for America. To speak against all the nonsense going on in Washington, to start with. To remind people how our values have been a raging success compared to all others since the founding of the Republic. How copying the failures of modern Europe is not the path. Etc.

If she wishes, she'll be giving a speech every night, all over America. And probably making more money than is possible in public service. And having way more effect for good than she can possibly have as governor of Alaska, even without the trash that's bankrupting her and keeping her from doing her job.

Lt. Gov. Parnell can do what she's doing, and clearly she trusts him to continue the good work. Why not pass the ball off, when the full court press is on you and you can be more useful and effective in another position on the court.

I'm sure she means to go out there and do good, politically, as most people here understand the term. Whether that means running for anything is something I'm guessing she doesn't even know at this point.

But somebody has to stand up and loudly proclaim what's wrong with the current path, and what a present danger it is for us. NOBODY ELSE IS DOING THIS. For whatever reason - it's not polite, it's not PC, it won't do their careers any good, whatever...

This is imho a brilliant move, as she is free to talk and fight for what's right way more effectively than she can now. Without all the BS. I think that's her goal, her overall plan, and people who can only think in terms of "career" as holding a job can never possibly get what it means to go for what's right regardless of the immediate consequences.

Will she succeed? You can be sure the MSM and the democrats will be after her more than ever, but she won't be winning any more "sitting duck" awards! She'll be a moving target, and they will be the fixed targets that she can shoot at from whatever angle is best.

Brilliant move, in the greater scheme of things.

It's about time somebody gave Obama and company a hard time! That's what we're really concerned about here, isn't it - how people are just rolling ove in the face of the most determined assault on our liberties that the nation has ever seen?

re: #168 JarHeadLifer

You'll forgive me if I'm not compelled by your anecdotal evidence. I'll take quantitative and qualitative analysis every time. If you can provide any data that supports your position other than "what your friends think", I'd be happy to review it.

Of the exit polls I've seen, most indicate that at least 60% of the people who voted on election day didn't feel Palin was competent to be either Vice-President or President. That's not helping the ticket, that's hurting hit. By comparison, those same polls indicated that 70% of the people (or more) felt Biden was competent.

And that speaks worlds
who molds peoples opinions?
and why?

re: #207 JarHeadLifer

She did use a teleprompter. In some of the video footage, you can see a guy kneeling in front of her with a towel/blanket draped around him. He's holding a hand-held teleprompter. That's what makes her performance even more puzzling. That was a prepared text she was reading.

Good grief! I see the "talking points" are out in full force.

Gotta bash Palin on the teleprompter because the right bashes Obama! //

re: #201 ladycatnip

#156 & 168 JarHeadLifer

If Palin hurt the ticket so much why didn't Obama win by a landslide?

Have you not seen the electoral vote totals? Obama beat him by 192 electoral votes with a 7% popular vote margin. Given the razor-thin margins of the previous two elections, that's a landslide.

re: #203 KingKenrod

...and I had to downding you for opening with a strawman. I'm so used to it that I really don't even notice anymore.

re: #211 The Shadow Do

Come 2010, this trend needs a break
[Link: www.infoplease.com...]

re: #156 JarHeadLifer

Obama won because the economy turned. McCain, despite all his faults, was ahead by a point or even according to the polls.

And Iraq was off the table. The country trusted Republicans more on the war then Democrats.

Ironically, if Obama's bill mandating all troops out of Iraq by March 31. 2008 had passed disaster would have followed and Obama would not have been elected President.

re: #212 Killgore Trout

Because the transition to a new governor is already in place and she doesn't have to be removed from office. It saves the chaos of having to scramble and avoids the embarrassment of being impeached.

If there were any 'there' there would not the many, many people sifting her trash and bringing lawsuits have turned it up by now?

You may be right, but that actually seems the least logical explanation at this point to me.

On “The Early Show Saturday Edition,” Rollins, who headed up former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee’s 2008 White House run, told co-anchor Erica Hill that Palin’s Friday news conference “raised a lot more questions than she answered. Usually, at a press conference, you answer questions. I think the bottom line is you saw a shooting star come crashing to Earth.

So, Huckleberry's hound dog wants to bark at Palin? Does he think she's too soft on evil-u-tion or what?

It's obvious that Huckabee wants to challenge for leadership of the socon wing of the GOP. I hear his radio show once in a while, he's pretty good. He might actually have a shot at the nomination. Unfortunately for us, the final result could only be a second term for the Zero and a defacto one-party state for the foreseeable future.

re: #218 JarHeadLifer

Have you not seen the electoral vote totals? Obama beat him by 192 electoral votes with a 7% popular vote margin. Given the razor-thin margins of the previous two elections, that's a landslide.

Again with the talking points!

Seriously, I see this same crap all over the leftist boards.

re: #209 swamprat

Funny thing. Sarah Palin was running for vice-presidency.This is pretty much a figurehead position, with no real power. Yet people act as if she was trying for the presidency itself. Tell me one vice-president candidate who has garnered this much attention and vitriol. ....They are afraid of her. They don't think she is stupid. They don't think she is dishonest. They don't want her in the competition. She is a V-8 engine and they are running straight sixes. These "ethics" complaints are solely to paint her as unethical, and to raise to operating expenses of the office of Governor to make her look immoral or inefficient...and now she's bailed out of the game.

In the movies, this is the part where the bad guys have the hero holed up in a building, and he disappears. No one has read the script, so they don't know if the hero is going to escape to a desert island and live in paradise, or circle around and blow the crap out of them.

But NPR is being awfully polite about this. That is the wisest position; If the snake has been decapitated, they look charitable, if the snake still has fangs, they have not placed themselves in danger.
Meanwhile, the monkeys are shrieking, and jumping up and down.

But then, they always did.

The town has been painted red and renamed Hell.

re: #219 Killgore Trout

...and I had to downding you for opening with a strawman. I'm so used to it that I really don't even notice anymore.

If that was a strawman, it needed another bail.

re: #211 The Shadow Do

Lyndon Johnson's 61.1% to Barry Goldwater's 38.5% in the 1964 presidential election
Franklin D. Roosevelt's 60.8% to Alf Landon's 36.5% in the 1936 presidential election
Richard Nixon's 60.7% to George McGovern's 37.5% in the 1972 presidential election
Warren Harding's 60.3% to James M. Cox's 34.1% in the 1920 presidential election
Ronald Reagan's 58.8% to Walter Mondale's 40.6% in the 1984 presidential election
Theodore Roosevelt's 56.4% to Alton B. Parker's 37.6% in the 1904 presidential election

Anybody missing from that list?

Thomas Jefferson 72.8% to Charles Pinckney 27.2% in the 1804 presidential election

re: #123 Walter L. Newton

So, hit back, play their game. It's the left who have blown so much politically correct smoke in our face (while they practice none of it) that we have become convinced that we just all need to get along.

Civil discourse my ass.

What happened to a fiery speech, a rousing rhetoric, a little populist condescending campaign ads? We've wimped out, while the left has been cutting their teeth on snark.

It's almost as if the GOP treats the D's the same way the D's treat world threats and terrorism: I wish the D's dealt with despots and tyrants the same way they treated the GOP in campaigning. Interesting irony.

I think the negative impact of her quitting is being overstated. Most of her supporters don't care about her being governor of Alaska, they care about her future impact. Depending on what Palin does now, her supporters will probably be more pleased if she takes a stronger national role.

Politicians quit all the time when offered a "better" (more powerful) job, and people don't complain about them abandoning their states for more personal ambitions. Kathleen Sebilius quit being Governor of Kansas to be HHS Secretary. John Huntsman will quit being Governor of Utah to become Ambassador to China. Hillary Clinton quit being a Senator to become Secretary of State.

So I think criticism of Palin should be tempered until we see what she does after resigning.

re: #226 DEZes

If that was a strawman, it needed another bale.

Just a drive by (a house repair that involved replacing innumerable screws has left my arms not wanting to type much).

This is such an awesome country. I inherited my citizenship, I did nothing to earn it, and so I gratefully take this moment to thank those ancestors of mine who fought for that freedom, who left their homes in less-free countries and moved onto the frontier, and sacrificed. Because of them, I am free.

re: #210 Naso Tang

She owes the Alaskans an effective governor that doesn't have to spend most of the time fighting groundless smears ans she owes her family better than the personal bankruptcy that they would have suffered if she continued that same fight.

I suppose some would have admired her if she racked up 10million in debt and had nothing but the office at the end of the day, but this admiration she can do without. She doesn't have Romney, McCain's or Kerry's money or a rich wife.

The Economic Game-Changer

McCain's lead came to an abrupt halt with the onset of the Wall Street crisis in mid-September. By Sept. 17, the Republican nominee again trailed Obama by a few percentage points, and while the race briefly closed to a tie later in the month, McCain never regained the lead.

McCain attempted a bold move by suspending his campaign in late September to return to Washington to focus on legislation to address the financial crisis, but he resumed his campaign in time to debate Obama on Sept. 26 even though Congress had not formulated a legislative plan.

The debates were perhaps McCain's best opportunity to reverse Obama's growing momentum, but he was unable to do so. USA Today/Gallup polls found that Americans rated Obama the winner of all three debates, and these may have helped him solidify his gains. October proved to be Obama's best month of the campaign, as he averaged a nine-point lead among registered voters over McCain in Gallup Poll Daily tracking.

re: #218 JarHeadLifer

Have you not seen the electoral vote totals? Obama beat him by 192 electoral votes with a 7% popular vote margin. Given the razor-thin margins of the previous two elections, that's a landslide.

Funny, I remember Hillary wanting to get rid of the Electoral College in '04, IIRC. Not that it would have mattered in this election. And a landslide is taking, say, 49 states?

re: #229 KingKenrod

I think the negative impact of her quitting is being overstated. Most of her supporters don't care about her being governor of Alaska, they care about her future impact. Depending on what Palin does now, her supporters will probably be more pleased if she takes a stronger national role.

Politicians quit all the time when offered a "better" (more powerful) job, and people don't complain about them abandoning their states for more personal ambitions. Kathleen Sebilius quit being Governor of Kansas to be HHS Secretary. John Huntsman will quit being Governor of Utah to become Ambassador to China. Hillary Clinton quit being a Senator to become Secretary of State.

So I think criticism of Palin should be tempered until we see what she does after resigning.

Amen and thank you!

re: #220 Roger

Come 2010, this trend needs a break
[Link: www.infoplease.com...]

How so, looks like turnout in off years is pretty steady at about 37%?

re: #209 swamprat

You're right about the figurehead thing, but oh no, all we ever heard was "heartbeat away from the presidency." The ageism leveled at McCain was bad enough (though he got a clear bill of health and has great genes), but the implication that Palin--though she was an elected and functioning governor--was a total airhead, was the lowest. If she was in no way prepared for the presidency, though she was running for VP, then certainly top of the ticket Obama was not prepared. Now who do we have one heartbeat away from this presidency? Joe Biden.

Now for me? Time to start revving up for the activities of the day. A Very Happy Day of Independence for all lizards!

I will be surprised if some new "scandal" emerges. The press would have found it by now and smeared it all over the front pages. They still are capable of thorough investigation when it comes to her, in fact they'll even run with lies about book burning if they have to.

re: #227 Opilio

Thomas Jefferson 72.8% to Charles Pinckney 27.2% in the 1804 presidential election

Yes! That's the one!

I am free to say...

I think our president is wrong. Very, very wrong.

(I was going to say that he is a chucklehead, but I was afraid this would be misinterpreted as a slam against a certain Chief Lizard, which it would not have been.)

re: #239 The Shadow Do

Yes! That's the one!

Would you have wanted to run against him? He was betting looking, smarter, better spoken, and beloved.

Heeeeeres Sarah!

(Letterman chokes on his coffee)

re: #87 The Shadow Do

Yup, she quit a lame duck post. So what? Why do you even care?

Lame duck? She's barely halfway through her first term; in Alaska, the governor can serve two consecutive terms; I'm fairly certain they can serve an unlimited number of non-consecutive terms. But I don't see how she's a "lame duck" by any definition.

I know Palin herself was tossing this term around during her resignation speech yesterday, but it still doesn't make any sense.

re: #21 Naso Tang

Yet another media frenzy right on the heels of Jackson. If I was an Alaskan I would tell her to drop dead, but as I'm not I will just say, go away.

Naso, long time no see. Get this: Odds are that if you were an Alaskan, you would back her to the hilt, understand her decision, and wish her well in whatever comes. An overwhelming majority of Alaskans do, which is something no governor has been able to say for decades.
Senator McCain placed her in national politics, yes, but she won everything state and below through hard work and smarts.

re: #243 SixDegrees

Lame duck? She's barely halfway through her first term; in Alaska, the governor can serve two consecutive terms; I'm fairly certain they can serve an unlimited number of non-consecutive terms. But I don't see how she's a "lame duck" by any definition.

I know Palin herself was tossing this term around during her resignation speech yesterday, but it still doesn't make any sense.

She was saying that if she had announced no re-election, then stayed, she would have been a lame duck. She apparently felt Parnell would have more effectiveness with the possibility of another term in front of him.

re: #243 SixDegrees

Lame duck? She's barely halfway through her first term; in Alaska, the governor can serve two consecutive terms; I'm fairly certain they can serve an unlimited number of non-consecutive terms. But I don't see how she's a "lame duck" by any definition.

I know Palin herself was tossing this term around during her resignation speech yesterday, but it still doesn't make any sense.

I think it came from spending her time fighting lawsuits in stead of commanding office.

re: #215 harpsicon

Thank you. Brilliantly stated.

re: #210 Naso Tang

I disagree. Politicians who have a career based on their public image do owe the public certain things. You don't owe me anything, but she had my vote once. She owes me something, not to mention the people of Alaska.

Maybe this is a parting gift to the media to speculate over until the next political bungle or celebrity death to occupy their attention. She had my vote when I voted for McCain and that election is done. You'll get your answer to why she's stepping down will eventually in the coming weeks regardless of feelings. Lt.Gov. Sean R. Parnell seems a capable man and is going to run for Alaskas Govenor's seat in 2010. this may prove to be a boon for him. So all we can do is wait.

re: #232 SpartanWoman

She owes the Alaskans an effective governor that doesn't have to spend most of the time fighting groundless smears ans she owes her family better than the personal bankruptcy that they would have suffered if she continued that same fight.

I suppose some would have admired her if she racked up 10million in debt and had nothing but the office at the end of the day, but this admiration she can do without. She doesn't have Romney, McCain's or Kerry's money or a rich wife.

Are you speaking for her, or just bending over backwards?

You know what they say about assuming. I just want to hear it from the horse's mouth.

re: #213 capitalist piglet

I voted for him, but he lost me in spirit when he told that man in Wisconsin that he had nothing to fear from an Obama presidency. How could he possibly believe that?

"Fight with me", my ass.

I held my nose when I voted for him. Sarah was the reason I hung in there with the ticket.

re: #243 SixDegrees

Lame duck? She's barely halfway through her first term; in Alaska, the governor can serve two consecutive terms; I'm fairly certain they can serve an unlimited number of non-consecutive terms. But I don't see how she's a "lame duck" by any definition.

I know Palin herself was tossing this term around during her resignation speech yesterday, but it still doesn't make any sense.

Not in election mechanics, but the effect would be the same. The point she made was that if she could not govern effectively due to factors from outside the state (to put it politely), then she would be a lame duck no matter how long until the next election, and the state deserves better than that.

re: #244 haakondahl

Naso, long time no see. Get this: Odds are that if you were an Alaskan, you would back her to the hilt, understand her decision, and wish her well in whatever comes. An overwhelming majority of Alaskans do, which is something no governor has been able to say for decades.
Senator McCain placed her in national politics, yes, but she won everything state and below through hard work and smarts.

Howdy. I've been around, just a dearth of evolution threads lately....

I'm glad that Alaskans are psychic and know what she hasn't said. I wish they would show how they know that.

re: #243 SixDegrees

Lame duck? She's barely halfway through her first term; in Alaska, the governor can serve two consecutive terms; I'm fairly certain they can serve an unlimited number of non-consecutive terms. But I don't see how she's a "lame duck" by any definition.

I know Palin herself was tossing this term around during her resignation speech yesterday, but it still doesn't make any sense.

She had previously declared she would not run for another term, ergo lameduck

re: #219 Killgore Trout

...and I had to downding you for opening with a strawman. I'm so used to it that I really don't even notice anymore.

That's OK, I'm not keeping score. I am, however, right.

re: #249 Naso Tang

Are you speaking for her, or just bending over backwards?

You know what they say about assuming. I just want to hear it from the horse's mouth.

Rrrrwnow!

Showing our claws, are we?
meow

In my estimation "political strategists" are among the most clueless of human beings.

If Ed Rollins, or his democratic counterparts, or the Democratic, or the Republican politicians were competent & really saw things as they are, then would the country be in the mess it is now in?

Does not "government" mean keeping things on an even keel?

Aren't all those politicians and strategists right now guilty of epic failure?

If Ed Rollins sees Palin as having made a mistake, I think this is a really good indication that she is doing the right thing.

I could not more despise the current political creatures who gerrymander their safe districts and run the country into the ground ass their little private club.

Down with them all & Palin does well to distance herself from the lot.

I have spoken.

The Two Crows

As I was walking all alone,
I heard two ravens making a moan;
One said to the other,
"Where shall we go and dine today?"

"In behind that old turf wall,
I sense there lies a newly slain knight;
And nobody knows that he lies there,
But his hawk, his hound and his lady fair."

"His hound is to the hunting gone,
His hawk to fetch the wild-fowl home,
His lady's has taken another mate,
So we may make our dinner sweet."

"You will sit on his white neck-bone,
And I'll peck out his pretty blue eyes;
With one lock of his golden hair
We'll thatch our nest when it grows bare."

"Many a one for him is moaning,
But nobody will know where he is gone;
Over his white bones, when they are bare,
The wind will blow for evermore."

Lots of feasting being done by lots of different crows. But sometimes things turn out badly for those crows.

re: #143 pingjockey

I agree 100 percent. McCain and the let's be civil shit can go to hell. The one is a goddamn socialist, his policies are going to bankrupt this country, but lets be nice. BULLSHIT. Ted Kennedy is an alcoholic murderer, Robt. Byrd is a goddamn Kluxer, Pelosi, Reid ,et al are fucking crooks, Murtha is a traitor, Jon Halp Uz Kary is a fucking traitor, and my side wants to fight nice. Fuck that shit.

Don't mince words, Ping. I feel that you're trying to tell us something, but I'm just not sure...

re: #248 Idle Drifter

..........................So all we can do is wait.

and post opinions.

re: #243 SixDegrees

Lame duck? She's barely halfway through her first term; in Alaska, the governor can serve two consecutive terms; I'm fairly certain they can serve an unlimited number of non-consecutive terms. But I don't see how she's a "lame duck" by any definition.

I know Palin herself was tossing this term around during her resignation speech yesterday, but it still doesn't make any sense.

I really have to go after I post this, but I want to answer you. I don't have her speech in front of me, but I remember her meaning as, "Once I made the decision to resign, I did not want to burden Alaska with a lame duck who flies around accepting speaking engagements on AK's time and dime." These are not her words, but I got that meaning. Anyone have the words where she explains lame duck? So to me it makes complete and total sense. She is not going to continue letting AK pay for lawsuits about wearing a certain logo on sportswear (for example), and continue to have her staff's time devoted to the defense of all this crap instead of the full-time and legitimate business of actually governing the state. The whole argument about letting down the people of her state is polar opposite of the true situation.