STFU and STFD, Joe.

The gift that keeps on giving.

Hey Joe, victim this you asshole!

She is no victim, but Joe is still an idiot.

You tell 'em, Joe.

Said the doofus who claimed FDR "went on television" after the stock market crash, and wasn't even called on it.

First word to my mind on this is not fit for man nor beast. What a creep he is.

Well what the hell else did you expect him to say?
"Yes, our allies in the MSM and a lot of bloggers ripped her and her family (while Obama's was off limits) to shreds."?

Didya get your daughter off the nose candy yet asshole?

I'm much more interested in Joe's answers with regard to Israel taking out Iran's nukes. Good stuff there when coupled with the supposed Saudi flyover okay.

re: #9 Taqyia2Me

Didya get your daughter off the nose candy yet asshole?

Ouch!

Baron Kinnock was unavailable for comment.

"Stand up Chuck. Oh God laoveya. Everybody stand up for Chuck, " Joe Biden, Asshole VP of the USA.

What did Joe say to that guy in the wheelchair? YouTube clip?

re: #4 Desert Dog
I'm sorry DD, but while SHE may not have been a victim - nobody that I know of coerced her into politics, I do think her family were victims. Don't you remember Obama saying his family was "off limits" and the MSM and bloggers agreed?
And FWIW, I think Obama was right and I think the MSM and some bloggers were wrong on going after Palin's family the way they did.

re: #13 Taqyia2Me

"Stand up Chuck. Oh God laoveya. Everybody stand up for Chuck, " Joe Biden, Asshole VP of the USA.

Looking for the clip.

We didnt do nuttin.
"Biden"

re: #13 Taqyia2Me

"Stand up Chuck. Oh God laoveya. Everybody stand up for Chuck, " Joe Biden, Asshole VP of the USA.

Here it is.

Palin gives my leg a tingle, but I have to get some work done.

It's okay because Joe's boss is the smartest man alive.

Ace chronicled Joe's lies.

Ya know, I bet that George Stephanopoulos was just shocked, SHOCKED I SAY at Biden's answer.

We are very rapidly losing what remnants of a free press we ever had.

How's that plan to split Iraq into three regions working for you, Joe?

re: #10 unrealizedviewpoint

I'm much more interested in Joe's answers with regard to Israel taking out Iran's nukes. Good stuff there when coupled with the supposed Saudi flyover okay.

Biden: US will not stand in Israel's way on Iranian issue.

BUT CHENEY SHOT A GUY IN THE FACE! THAT'S GOTTA BE WORSE!

///

re: #24 Gang of One

Biden: US will not stand in Israel's way on Iranian issue.

A broken clock is right twice a day.

re: #15 realwest

True up to a point. But her effectiveness as governor was certainly impacted - along with family finances - by those bogus ethics charges.

re: #18 MandyManners

Here it is.

[Video]

Cringe-worthy. Truly cringe-worthy, Mandy.

re: #27 wahabicorridor

True up to a point. But her effectiveness as governor was certainly impacted - along with family finances - by those bogus ethics charges.

By $500,000.00 from what I've read.

Biden, speaking about his vanquished 2008 vice presidential rival while on a trip to Iraq

/how's the partition going Plugs?

re: #15 realwest

I'm sorry DD, but while SHE may not have been a victim - nobody that I know of coerced her into politics, I do think her family were victims. Don't you remember Obama saying his family was "off limits" and the MSM and bloggers agreed?
And FWIW, I think Obama was right and I think the MSM and some bloggers were wrong on going after Palin's family the way they did.

I always here about the Rightwing Attack machine, but I never see it actually running. I do see the Leftwing Attack machine in action all the time. The levels they will stoop and sink too are sickening.

re: #28 Gang of One

Cringe-worthy. Truly cringe-worthy, Mandy.

I have very, very few links about Joe.

re: #20 MandyManners

It's okay because Joe's boss is the smartest man alive.

It appears Joe was embarrassed by her comments. So much so, he walked off camera.

Sarah Palin says Hillary Clinton shouldn't whine about tough media coverage

re: #24 Gang of One

Biden: US will not stand in Israel's way on Iranian issue.

Of course Joe says a lot of things, many of them without checking first with Obama.

re: #30 Killian Bundy

/how's the partition going Plugs?

I wonder if Maliki was hard-pressed not to spit on Joe's shoes.

re: #25 laZardo

BUT CHENEY SHOT A GUY IN THE FACE! THAT'S GOTTA BE WORSE!

///

We should offer Joe a free hunting trip with Dick. Joe can "take point"...go ahead, Joe...stand on up there...

re: #26 latingent

A broken clock is right twice a day.

Wait till Obama yells at him.

bbiab

re: #35 capitalist piglet

Of course Joe says a lot of things, many of them without checking first with Obama.

He probably forgets who the President is sometimes?

Thank goodness Joe Biden is VP.
He's a 'flippin genius!

/Folks - remember not to travel by planes and trains - it's too dangerous.

That's big talk from a man that hasn't heard a single joke coming from late-night or prime-time comics about the video of his daughter snorting cocaine. If such a video had been shopped about one of Palin's kid, we would have heard about it ad nauseam.

I'm not excusing Palin's resignation, but I don't believe that there's any politician, in the age of the modern media, that has been savaged the way Palin (and her family) has been savaged.

re: #38 nevergiveup

Wait till Obama yells at him.

Wont be the first time...or last

re: #37 Desert Dog

We should offer Joe a free hunting trip with Dick. Joe can "take point"...go ahead, Joe...stand on up there...

Biden would wonder why the dogs were pointing at him. ;)

re: #42 JarHeadLifer

That's big talk from a man that hasn't heard a single joke coming from late-night or prime-time comics about the video of his daughter snorting cocaine. If such a video had been shopped about one of Palin's kid, we would have heard about it ad nauseam.

I'm not excusing Palin's resignation, but I don't believe that there's any politician, in the age of the modern media, that has been savaged the way Palin (and her family) has been savaged.

Amen

And now Joe says the US won't stand in Israel's way on the Iran nuke issue. This will make for some interesting spin, won't it?

BTW--the image of Palin as a quitter will never be erased. She is finished as a national politician. She'll make a good fundraiser, though.

re: #18 MandyManners

Here it is.

[Video]

HEH. what a clueless dick.

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Sarah Palin says Hillary Clinton shouldn't whine about tough media coverage

Youtube Video

I don't hear Sarah Palin whining. I hear her acknowledging reality. And it's gone way beyond "tough media coverage".

So at Wimbledon, Federer and Roddick at going at it. 14-13 in the 5th set

re: #37 Desert Dog

We should offer Joe a free hunting trip with Dick. Joe can "take point"...go ahead, Joe...stand on up there...

No fucking way! Then Pelosi would be #2 until a new VP is confirmed.

re: #44 DEZes

Biden would wonder why the dogs were pointing at him. ;)

Because Dick's dogs are smarter than Joe

re: #46 calcajun

OTOH, Ronald Reagan was not a sitting Governor when he was elected in 1980.

Palin not a victim of biased media?

Gimme a break. She has been abused and dragged through the coals more than any politician of the last decade -- possibly even including George Bush. She has been lied about, vilified, mocked, humiliated, and politically raped for a solid year. So yeah, I think she is a victim.

Joe Biden was her opponent -- VP vs. VP. What do you think he's going to say on this topic? Of course he sides with her attackers.

re: #35 capitalist piglet

Of course Joe says a lot of things, many of them without checking first with Obama.

Joe really elaborated here. I suspect this IS the Administration's position. At least today's.

re: #51 Desert Dog

Because Dick's dogs are smarter than Joe

Exactly. ;)

old slow Joe he just so zany!

re: #46 calcajun

And now Joe says the US won't stand in Israel's way on the Iran nuke issue. This will make for some interesting spin, won't it?

BTW--the image of Palin as a quitter will never be erased. She is finished as a national politician. She'll make a good fundraiser, though.

Yes, she should have used her job as a stepping stone with no intention of ever fulfilling her role as governor. She should have announced her candidacy 140 days into her term.

/

re: #27 wahabicorridor

True up to a point. But her effectiveness as governor was certainly impacted - along with family finances - by those bogus ethics charges.

Yep, I'm sure of that. Too bad that the big bad Republican VP nominee wouldn't even make the Congress' top ten in financial net worth.
Now if she'd only gotten filthy rich while govenor that would have been different.
Those - now proven - bogus ethics charges were brought, IMO, only to hurt her personally, not out of any great concern for the State of Alaska.
But hey, she WAS the nominee for Vice-President and she deserved at least as much scrutiny as did the Democratic nominee for President!
Oh, wait...

14-14---I wish they would hurry up. I got to find the dental clinic here at Annapolis.

He's entitled to his opinion, and unfortunately, to remain a complete imbecile.

re: #54 unrealizedviewpoint

Joe really elaborated here. I suspect this IS the Administration's position. At least today's.

You mean they're really going to side with the good guys this time?

That'd be nice.

re: #59 nevergiveup

14-14---I wish they would hurry up. I got to find the dental clinic here at Annapolis.

Yeah, this is amazing. These guys are going at it hammer and tongs. 15-14 Federer and he still hasn't broken Roddick all day.

Well, for anybody on the fence this is the deciding analysis. If Joe Biden says Sarah Palin is not a victim then, by jingoes, she is a victim!

re: #61 capitalist piglet

You mean they're really going to side with the good guys this time?

That'd be nice.

Yes, that is what today's focus group and opinion polls told him today. Tomorrow, who know?

re: #58 realwest

For the record I like Palin alot. I don't think at this point she is electable,to some extend thru no fault of her own, but some on her own. I think she has been treated immensely unfairly. But I would not worry about her finances. She is writing a book and soon will getting speaking fees. I hope she becomes filthy rich. That at least she deserves. Oh and while she is getting filthy rich I hope she ripes a few people a new one!

re: #53 zombie

Palin not a victim of biased media?

Gimme a break. She has been abused and dragged through the coals more than any politician of the last decade -- possibly even including George Bush. She has been lied about, vilified, mocked, humiliated, and politically raped for a solid year. So yeah, I think she is a victim.

Joe Biden was her opponent -- VP vs. VP. What do you think he's going to say on this topic? Of course he sides with her attackers.

Absolutely. I would add that the left are blind to their obsessive over-the-top bad-faith hatred of Sarah. I doubt the collective left consider their behavior over-the-top. It's just another day at the politics of personal destruction ranch.

re: #48 capitalist piglet

I'm starting to feel a little bad for her. She's just in over her head. I wish she'd been more realistic about her own capabilities and refused the VP slot. She's just not equipped to be in the national (and probably local) spotlight. It's a little sad. I hope she finds peace.

re: #46 calcajun

BTW--the image of Palin as a quitter will never be erased. She is finished as a national politician. She'll make a good fundraiser, though.

The Left couldn't give a shit if she quit or not. They are simply jumping and down yelling "QUITTER!" because they think that will turn off some of Palin's fans. But I don't think Palin's fans care whether or not she quit either. She is idolized by those who like her, vilified by those who hate her. I think this incident will be used as just another random stiletto by the left in its vast anti-Palin arsenal.

She may or may nor have a future in national politics, but quitting as governor will have no effect on it one way or the bother. They will slam her incessantly, quit or no quit.

re: #67 Killgore Trout

I'm starting to feel a little bad for her. She's just in over her head. I wish she'd been more realistic about her own capabilities and refused the VP slot. She's just not equipped to be in the national (and probably local) spotlight. It's a little sad. I hope she finds peace.

She is going to start organizing Tea Parties, KT...the first one will be in Portland, in your front yard!

/ ;-)

Joe don't know shit!

re: #67 Killgore Trout

I'm starting to feel a little bad for her. She's just in over her head. I wish she'd been more realistic about her own capabilities and refused the VP slot. She's just not equipped to be in the national (and probably local) spotlight. It's a little sad. I hope she finds peace.

but by the same token you are comfortable with BO...

re: #67 Killgore Trout

I'm starting to feel a little bad for her. She's just in over her head. I wish she'd been more realistic about her own capabilities and refused the VP slot. She's just not equipped to be in the national (and probably local) spotlight. It's a little sad. I hope she finds peace.

She just signed a $12 million contract with Murdoch to write a book. I think she'll be OK.

;-)

re: #67 Killgore Trout

Sorry to disappoint ya, but I got a hunch she is going to be in your face for the foreseeable future. Get used to it.

re: #65 nevergiveup

For the record I like Palin alot. I don't think at this point she is electable,to some extend thru no fault of her own, but some on her own. I think she has been treated immensely unfairly. But I would not worry about her finances. She is writing a book and soon will getting speaking fees. I hope she becomes filthy rich. That at least she deserves. Oh and while she is getting filthy rich I hope she ripes a few people a new one!

Couldn't agree with you more.
However it's also occured to me that she doesn't want to be in public office - resigning before the end of her term wasn't the best way to go about accomplishing that, but had I been Palin and had MY family been getting ripped up as hers was, I wouldn't be able to run for public office. IIRC, someone convicted for multiple assault and battery charges PROBABLY can't run for POTUS.
/

Championship point federer

re: #75 nevergiveup

Championship point federer

Match

If Cheney was Darth Vader, who is Joe? Forrest Gump?

And it is done. Federer.

re: #12 Macker

Baron Kinnock was unavailable for comment.

That's ok, Joe can elaborate for Neil quite well...almost like Neil is speaking himself...without the English Accent and Cambridge Education, of course

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

If Cheney was Darth Vader, who is Joe? Forrest Gump?

Jar Jar Binks maybe...

Well I'm outa here. Going sight seeing.

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

If Cheney was Darth Vader, who is Joe? Forrest Gump?

Or Gomer Pyle.

/a pool and a pond, the pond would be good for Joe

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

If Cheney was Darth Vader, who is Joe? Forrest Gump?

Gabby Johnson.

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

If Cheney was Darth Vader, who is Joe? Forrest Gump?

Nope. Gump had a conscience

Well y'all it's been grand, but I gotta go now. Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

re: #71 albusteve

but by the same token you are comfortable with BO...

Killgore's quite comfortable with Øbama as President. Killgore said in the last thread, comment #600:

... I feel more confident than ever that my decision to not vote for McCain/Palin was the right choice ...

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

If Cheney was Darth Vader, who is Joe? Forrest Gump?

Gah, no.
Forrest Gump is a whiz compared to Biden.

re: #52 Macker

OTOH, Ronald Reagan was not a sitting Governor when he was elected in 1980.

True--finished his terms --both of them from 1967 through 1975.

Americans don't quit unless compelled to do so.

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

If Cheney was Darth Vader, who is Joe? Forrest Gump?

The walrus?

re: #67 Killgore Trout

I'm starting to feel a little bad for her. She's just in over her head. I wish she'd been more realistic about her own capabilities and refused the VP slot. She's just not equipped to be in the national (and probably local) spotlight. It's a little sad. I hope she finds peace.

Palin, like Obama was, is a populist. A lot of Obama's fans and voters could barely even describe to you a single one of his policies. They like him simply because he has some magic populist aura. I believe Palin has that same aura, except appealing to the opposite side of the political spectrum. And I think many of her fans don't really know or care what her specific political stances are.

So yeah, I think she does have a possible future in politics. She is as electable and as qualified as Obama was.

Now, I mistakenly thought (before last summer) that Obama was "unelectable" -- and look how wrong I was. I won't make that erroneous assumption again. Palin may seem unelectable to those who disagree with her, but you may be surprised at what she's capable of.

But isn't it democratic dogma that we are all victims?

the proper sneering response is that she is no more a victim than anyone else, and anyway as a Republican she's only been in denial about the truth anyway.

Brush up on your manual, Mr. Veep.

re: #41 FrogMarch

Joe Biden, the gift that keeps on giving.

re: #84 wahabicorridor

Nope. Gump had a conscience

And more of a brain.

re: #89 jorline

The walrus?

No, I am the walrus; he is the eggman.

re: #34 Killgore Trout

Sarah Palin says Hillary Clinton shouldn't whine about tough media coverage

Clinton didn't get it at tough as Palin's family continues to get it. What's your point KT?

re: #85 realwest

see ya sweetcakes!

re: #67 Killgore Trout

I'm starting to feel a little bad for her. She's just in over her head. I wish she'd been more realistic about her own capabilities and refused the VP slot. She's just not equipped to be in the national (and probably local) spotlight. It's a little sad. I hope she finds peace.

Sure you do.

We're on a thread about one of the biggest morons ever to hold political office at the federal level, whose middle name may as well be "Blunder", and your comment disparages her capabilities.

Why is that, Killgore? Please - help me understand, because it almost seems like sexism sometimes.

re: #94 calcajun

No, I am the walrus; he is the eggman.

Ku Ku Ka Chuu

re: #80 DEZes

Jar Jar Binks maybe...

Nope. Bib Fortuna.

re: #95 BigPapa

Clinton didn't get it at tough as Palin's family continues to get it. What's your point KT?

That reminds me - there was a blurb in the NY Daily News today that Chelsea may be getting married this summer at Vernon Jordan's place - Hamptons I think - to some schmuck who works for Goldman Sachs

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

If Cheney was Darth Vader, who is Joe? Forrest Gump?

Got it. Sergent Schultz. Hogan's Hero's

re: #25 laZardo

BUT CHENEY SHOT A GUY IN THE FACE! THAT'S GOTTA BE WORSE!

///

Well, if it was you he shot in the face, you might think so.

/well...

re: #90 zombie

hmm...although Obama's appeal extended to the "intellectual" college crowds...while Palin has been painted as appealing to (this is from an anti-Palin media individual) "hill-billies."

re: #69 Desert Dog

Actually I have seen speculation that she's going to try to establish a leadership position in the Tea Parties. I doubt it. She's probably thinking of going on the speech circuit giving motivational speeches.

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

If Cheney was Darth Vader, who is Joe? Forrest Gump?

Gump was born that way. Biden is willfully stupid.

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

If Cheney was Darth Vader, who is Joe? Forrest Gump?

Tom Hanks, in Big.

re: #98 VegasRick

Ku Ku Ka Chuu

Choking smoker, don't you think the joker laughs at you?
hohohohehehehahaha

re: #92 sngnsgt

Joe Biden, the gift that keeps on giving.

It's never too late to lose in Irag.
/(D-idiot)

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

Got it. Sergent Schultz. Hogan's Hero's

Schultz was smart enough to admit he knew nothing. ;)

Iraq

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

And an upding fer youse!

re: #105 MandyManners

Biden is willfully stupid.

Willfully? No one has got that strong a constitution. If he's willed himself to be that clueless, he is then the Lance Armstrong of dumb. He was born that way.

Joe Biden, fountain of wisdom.

re: #67 Killgore Trout

She's just not equipped to be in the national (and probably local) spotlight.

She's been in local politics for many years and many Alaskans would disagree with you.

re: #90 zombie
Palin's problem is that she can't take criticism from bloggers and comedians. Obama can. She has no chance at survival in public life if she's this thin skinned.

re: #107 jorline

Choking smoker, don't you think the joker laughs at you?
hohohohehehehahaha

Semolina Pilchard, climbing up the Eiffel Tower...
a real guy...the cop that busted Keith Richrds and others and went after the Beatles...

re: #110 FrogMarch

Iraq

Biden didn't notice. He thought you were talking about Iowa.

re: #67 Killgore Trout

I'm starting to feel a little bad for her. She's just in over her head. I wish she'd been more realistic about her own capabilities and refused the VP slot. She's just not equipped to be in the national (and probably local) spotlight. It's a little sad. I hope she finds peace.

You feigned concern is at least transparent, unlike this current administration. Maybe you could give Obama some lessons in being seen right through.

This may be the funniest (and most dishonest) comment I have ever read on LGF, short of some of the obviously sarcastic comments left by some of our more ill trolls.

re: #105 MandyManners

Biden is willfully stupid.

/no he's not, just ask him

That Sarah Palin makes the lefties head spinning nuts is enough of an endorsement for me.

re: #114 BigPapa

She's been in local politics for many years and many Alaskans would disagree with you.

She lasted a little over a year as governor and couldn't take it. Maybe she could go back it being a small town mayor but that seems the extent of her capabilities.

Palin, or someone in her shoes, needs to publicly curse the media-political jackals with a great string of scorching four letter words.

I believe that the majority of Americans already do this in the privacy of their own thoughts, and it only awaits open expression; the media-political types will never understand it until it is openly said by someone prominent.

Millions will cheer when it finally happens.

re: #115 Killgore Trout

Palin's problem is that she can't take criticism from bloggers and comedians. Obama can. She has no chance at survival in public life if she's this thin skinned.

Dude, stop it already. You don't like her and that is the end of the story. You are starting to argue like a left wing loony.

re: #95 BigPapa

Clinton didn't get it at tough as Palin's family continues to get it. What's your point KT?

The Clintons were accused of murder, among other things, in what passed for the blogosphere of their day. And I cannot imagine the feeding frenzy if Chelsea had turned up pregnant as a teenager. Just sayin'.

re: #119 Killian Bundy

/no he's not, just ask him

BOOKMARKED!

re: #122 Ojoe

Palin, or someone in her shoes, needs to publicly curse the media-political jackals with a great string of scorching four letter words.

I believe that the majority of Americans already do this in the privacy of their own thoughts, and it only awaits open expression; the media-political types will never understand it until it is openly said by someone prominent.

Millions will cheer when it finally happens.

100% correct.

re: #114 BigPapa

She's been in local politics for many years and many Alaskans would disagree with you.

Palin's November '08 approval rating in Alaska, IIRC, was 85%. With the help of the MSM and late-nite loons, it has eroded somewhat.

re: #103 J.S.

hmm...although Obama's appeal extended to the "intellectual" college crowds...while Palin has been painted as appealing to (this is from an anti-Palin media individual) "hill-billies."

Precisely. But here's the key detail they don't want to face up to:

There are more hillbillies than intellectuals.

In a vote-for-vote battle, the hillbillies would beat the intellectuals. But when it comes to influence and power and media savvy, the intellectuals win in a route. So it comes down to: Can the intellectuals influence enough fence-sitters to hate Palin, to outweigh the hillbilly bloc?

They succeeded in 2008, because Palin was introduced too late in the game. But in 2012? We shall see. I think she'll be even more popular then, simply because she'll be more familiar.

I would really like to see someone on the left explain why Sarah Palin's presumed inferior intellect is a talking point to be hammered ceaselessly, while Joe Biden's continuous demonstration that he is clinging with one finger to the edge of reality doesn't seem to alarm them in the slightest.

Thank you. I'll wait.

Koskidz: Biden: The US Will Not Stop Israeli Strike On Iran

Ultimately, an Israeli attack on Iran is an unwise policy. As reports continue to surface that the Saudi government has given Israel permission to use its airspace in order to launch an attack on Iran, we must all be vigilant, and active, in ensuring that our government, whether by accidental speech by Biden or intentional, secret policy, does not encourage this without regard to both American interests and the interests of the human beings whose actions we have all been so praiseworthy of in Iran.

Biden being the idiot who told newly Amercanized citizens that he felt it was corny to be proud of his country.

re: #113 Emmmieg

Joe Biden, fountain of wisdom.

I forgot something: /

re: #129 capitalist piglet
Because they cant hit her with the issues...
In fact the issues are exactly what they are hiding from.

re: #115 Killgore Trout

Palin's problem is that she can't take criticism from bloggers and comedians. Obama can. She has no chance at survival in public life if she's this thin skinned.

You can't possibly have typed that with a straight face.

I see now.

re: #115 Killgore Trout

Palin's problem is that she can't take criticism from bloggers and comedians. Obama can. She has no chance at survival in public life if she's this thin skinned.

The left's big problem with Palin is she is not going to go away, no matter how hard they try to destroy her. She can still go out and get "Obama-like" crowds. She still has some gas in the tank. I think this resignation will come back and harm her though. Heat-Kitchen dynamic. Being Governor of Alaska and getting attacked is one thing. With the temperament of the left, it would increase to unbelievable levels if she got close to the Presidency. Their viciousness knows no bounds

re: #124 SanFranciscoZionist

The Clintons were accused of murder, among other things, in what passed for the blogosphere of their day. And I cannot imagine the feeding frenzy if Chelsea had turned up pregnant as a teenager. Just sayin'.

Allow me to correct you just a bit. Clinton was accused of murder in the editorial pages of the WSJ by then (now deceased) editor Robert Bartley (Bartlett?) - who also accused him of drug running out of the Mena, Arkansas airport I believe.

re: #129 capitalist piglet

I would really like to see someone on the left explain why Sarah Palin's presumed inferior intellect is a talking point to be hammered ceaselessly, while Joe Biden's continuous demonstration that he is clinging with one finger to the edge of reality doesn't seem to alarm them in the slightest.

Thank you. I'll wait.

It's because "Nobody Messes with Joe."™

re: #132 EmmmieG

I forgot something: /

You really didn't need it. We all knew.

Geraldine Ferraro.

I remember that campaign.

Walter Mondale picked her to be his Vice Presidential nominee.

Mondale did not lose because he picked her to be his VP. He lost because he ran a terrible campaign against Ronald Reagan.

Mondale thought he could win by promising to raise our taxes.

re: #97 capitalist piglet

Sure you do.

We're on a thread about one of the biggest morons ever to hold political office at the federal level, whose middle name may as well be "Blunder", and your comment disparages her capabilities.

Why is that, Killgore? Please - help me understand, because it almost seems like sexism sometimes.

I continue to be amazed that the biggest moron in the campaign was actually Biden. He gaffed and gaffed, yet they painted Sarah as the goof.

re: #138 VegasRick

You really didn't need it. We all knew.

Ya think?

re: #124 SanFranciscoZionist

The Clintons were accused of murder, among other things, in what passed for the blogosphere of their day. And I cannot imagine the feeding frenzy if Chelsea had turned up pregnant as a teenager. Just sayin'.

A few "far-right nuts" accused Hillary of murder, not the MSM. In Palin's case, it is the media that's doing most of the piling on.

No one needed to hit chelsea with insults...What the clintons did was bad enough...tho few libs will admit that

re: #123 VegasRick

Dude, stop it already. You don't like her and that is the end of the story. You are starting to argue like a left wing loony.

I'll stand by that. I just don't like her. If that makes me a left-wing loony, a liberal elitist, or an East Coast Feminist, I'll take it.

I like Trig, though. And Piper.

re: #135 Desert Dog

I think this resignation will come back and harm her though.

I think it depends on what she wants. What if she doesn't want to hold elected office again?

re: #115 Killgore Trout

Palin's problem is that she can't take criticism from bloggers and comedians. Obama can. She has no chance at survival in public life if she's this thin skinned.

Don't you remember the reports that Obama similarly is very thin-skinned and can't take criticism?

The only difference is: The media treats and has always treated Obama with kid gloves. So he's never had to experience even 1/10th of what Palin experienced. But I don't think being thin-skinned disqualifies you for office.

Richard Nixon was also famously thin-skinned: "You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around any more" -- Richard Nixon, 1964, as he QUIT office. And what happened four years later? He won the presidency.

So, a thin-skinned politician who was reviled by the media quit his political office and was "finished" in politics -- and yet ran and won the presidency four years later.

Notice any parallels?

Has anyone even thought that Palin may have had to bail because of family issues? After all, she is the mom to five, one of whom is a special needs child with medical problems . . .

re: #141 EmmmieG

Ya think?

Well, except for KT. He thought you were talking about Palin. (he's getting pretty obsessed with her)

re: #147 Jefiner

Has anyone even thought that Palin may have had to bail because of family issues? After all, she is the mom to five, one of whom is a special needs child with medical problems . . .

Let alone the 1/2 million dollars in legal expenses.

re: #134 capitalist piglet

You can't possibly have typed that with a straight face.

I see now.

yes, you've got it now...

re: #136 wahabicorridor

Allow me to correct you just a bit. Clinton was accused of murder in the editorial pages of the WSJ by then (now deceased) editor Robert Bartley (Bartlett?) - who also accused him of drug running out of the Mena, Arkansas airport I believe.

I do stand corrected. Thank you.

re: #135 Desert Dog

The left's big problem with Palin is she is not going to go away, no matter how hard they try to destroy her.

Not really. They pick on her because she's an easy target and she reacts poorly to jokes, criticism, blog posts and photoshops. It's very easy to get her and her supporters to react. The more they react the more the lefties are going to attack. It's very much like schoolyard bullies, they'll attack the kid who cries the easiest.

re: #6 capitalist piglet

Said the doofus who claimed FDR "went on television" after the stock market crash, and wasn't even called on it.

Equal scrutiny - uh huh.

re: #146 zombie

Well, tricky Dick was crying when HE quit. Sarah was down right giddy. I think the "giddy" part is what is making people nervous.

re: #147 Jefiner

Has anyone even thought that Palin may have had to bail because of family issues? After all, she is the mom to five, one of whom is a special needs child with medical problems . . .

How about half a million in outstanding legal fees and no end in sight to bogus ethics charges she would have to go deeper in debt for?

If we wonder how the left can get down to the gutter level when dealing with Palin, I think we don't have to go any further than threads like this to see that sick psychological pathology at work, live and in living color.

re: #104 Killgore Trout

Well I just knew it had something to do with Tea parties, how could I have missed it?
///

So, here's a philosophical question (it really is, I have no ulterior motive here):

Supposed there were an individual who was very, very good at the business of running a state, or being a senator, or a mayor, or whatever.

But they weren't very good at letting criticism roll off, and sometimes went off on a reporter or editorial writer.

Would you vote for this person?

re: #144 SanFranciscoZionist

I'll stand by that. I just don't like her. If that makes me a left-wing loony, a liberal elitist, or an East Coast Feminist, I'll take it.

I like Trig, though. And Piper.

If you notice I said "arguing like"... I have no problem with folks that don't care for Palin but let's all be realistic in noting that she took WAY more hits than anyone in recent memory.

re: #115 Killgore Trout

Palin's problem is that she can't take criticism from bloggers and comedians. Obama can. She has no chance at survival in public life if she's this thin skinned.

That seems strange to paint her as 'thin skinned' after what's transpired over the last 10 months. Zombie has been spot on in this thread: sexual jokes about her daughter is cause for 'grin and bear it?' Palin got a full rarefied dose of what Bush has for 8 years and you're blaming the victim.

I don't think the BS she put up with from 'comedians and bloggers' is close to what any reasonable person could call criticism: it's vile character assassination of the most worst kind. Criticism is a poor choice of words.

re: #152 Killgore Trout

Not really. They pick on her because she's an easy target and she reacts poorly to jokes, criticism, blog posts and photoshops. It's very easy to get her and her supporters to react. The more they react the more the lefties are going to attack. It's very much like schoolyard bullies, they'll attack the kid who cries the easiest.

I wonder what the current President would do if someone were to suggest he wasn't the father of Sasha or Malia like the left did with Trig Palin? I won't hold my breath waiting for those type of rumors to surface.

re: #152 Killgore Trout

Not really. They pick on her because she's an easy target and she reacts poorly to jokes, criticism, blog posts and photoshops. It's very easy to get her and her supporters to react. The more they react the more the lefties are going to attack. It's very much like schoolyard bullies, they'll attack the kid who cries the easiest.

From the mouth of an expert.

re: #147 Jefiner

Has anyone even thought that Palin may have had to bail because of family issues? After all, she is the mom to five, one of whom is a special needs child with medical problems . . .

People with Down's Syndrome can have a lot of physical problems.

re: #156 Walter L. Newton

If we wonder how the left can get down to the gutter level when dealing with Palin, I think we don't have to go any further than threads like this to see that sick psychological pathology at work, live and in living color.

it's a scam...look how much feedback he's getting...gone psyco

This is a Palin thread, but--

re: #10 unrealizedviewpoint

I'm much more interested in Joe's answers with regard to Israel taking out Iran's nukes. Good stuff there when coupled with the supposed Saudi flyover okay.

IMO this is far more important than the Palin resignation.

The leftwing mockery of Palin and the rightwing mockery of Biden are trivial compared to the looming Israel-Iran war.

re: #113 Emmmieg

Joe Biden, fountain of wisdom.

I think it's telling of Biden. No one has heard from Joe in weeks. Obama leaves the country and Biden trap door opens.

Biden: U.S. Won't Stand in Way of Israel on Iran Nukes

Biden Says Administration Misread Depth of Recession

And all of these comments this morning?

Joe, this is POTUS...STFU!

re: #146 zombie

Obama has never demanded an apology from a comedian or threatened to sue bloggers over internet rumors. It's very rare for presidents to even acknowledge this stuff. Bush put up with it for 8 years. He was treated brutally but he rose above it. It's what a president does. If Palin can be run out of office by comedians and bloggers how can we expect her to stand up to the world dictators.

re: #166 jorline

I think it's telling of Biden. No one has heard from Joe in weeks. Obama leaves the country and Biden trap door opens.

Biden: U.S. Won't Stand in Way of Israel on Iran Nukes

Biden Says Administration Misread Depth of Recession

And all of these comments this morning?

Joe, this is POTUS...STFU!

They have dispatched the Secret Service with a gag and some scissors to cut any microphone lines that may be near him.

re: #166 jorline

Are you suggesting we have a VP who needs a babysitter?

*banging head on table. Well, figuratively.*

re: #165 jvic

This is a Palin thread, but--

IMO this is far more important than the Palin resignation.

The leftwing mockery of Palin and the rightwing mockery of Biden are trivial compared to the looming Israel-Iran war.

the shiny object syndrome

re: #158 EmmmieG

So, here's a philosophical question (it really is, I have no ulterior motive here):

Supposed there were an individual who was very, very good at the business of running a state, or being a senator, or a mayor, or whatever.

But they weren't very good at letting criticism roll off, and sometimes went off on a reporter or editorial writer.

Would you vote for this person?

Absolutely. You just postulated that said person was very good in the elected office and as far as I'm concerned the media doesn't get their asses to them nearly enough.

re: #166 jorline

I liked it better when our VP was neither seen nor heard.

C'mon Palin on SNL was brilliant. She can laugh at herself but the gutter talk about her children is too much.

Question:

Is anyone aware of a joke a comedian has made about Obama yet? (And I'm not talking about one that flatters him, like the "Spock" nonsense...I'm talking about one equivalent to calling Palin a "slut".)

re: #164 albusteve

it's a scam...look how much feedback he's getting...gone psyco

Yep.

By the way, general FYI to all Lizards, my speed problem is back again, as in Comcast+west of the country+lgf=response time problems.

So, up and down dinging and new comment loading is taking 20-30 seconds or more.

re: #152 Killgore Trout

Not really. They pick on her because she's an easy target and she reacts poorly to jokes, criticism, blog posts and photoshops. It's very easy to get her and her supporters to react. The more they react the more the lefties are going to attack. It's very much like schoolyard bullies, they'll attack the kid who cries the easiest.

Exactly!

And in the end, who will benefit and who will suffer because of this dynamic?

I'll tell you who: The bullies will end up looking bad, and their victim will end up looking like the underdog.

Frankly, I think the bullying juvenile Left is falling right into Palin's trap.

re: #152 Killgore Trout

Not really. They pick on her because she's an easy target and she reacts poorly to jokes, criticism, blog posts and photoshops. It's very easy to get her and her supporters to react. The more they react the more the lefties are going to attack. It's very much like schoolyard bullies, they'll attack the kid who cries the easiest.

I am no huge Palin fan. But, what little respect I had for you, is now completely gone with that statement.

re: #175 Walter L. Newton

Yep.

By the way, general FYI to all Lizards, my speed problem is back again, as in Comcast+west of the country+lgf=response time problems.

So, up and down dinging and new comment loading is taking 20-30 seconds or more.

oh man, not again...like a bad penny

re: #161 soxfan4life

Dude, I see horrible stuff on the internet about Obama all the time. Often it's pretty racist. He doesn't care, he has much bigger things to deal with.

re: #168 Desert Dog

They have dispatched the Secret Service with a gag and some scissors to cut any microphone lines that may be near him.

Cap his mouth and Trade his ass.

re: #176 zombie

Exactly!

And in the end, who will benefit and who will suffer because of this dynamic?

I'll tell you who: The bullies will end up looking bad, and their victim will end up looking like the underdog.

Frankly, I think the bullying juvenile Left is falling right into Palin's trap.

How can that be, they are so much smarter than she is.Just ask them///

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Amazing what happens when the bullied one picks up a club; Thats when the caterwauling really starts.

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

Got it. Sergent Schultz. Hogan's Hero's

Biden as Sgt. Schultz: "I know nothing!"

;-P

re: #57 Desert Dog

Yes, she should have used her job as a stepping stone with no intention of ever fulfilling her role as governor. She should have announced her candidacy 140 days into her term.

/

Are you channelling John Edwards, The Silky Pony?

My theory is that Palin is taking a page from AllBore's playbook: you don't have to be in office to be in politics, and being outside is much more fun and much more lucrative.

re: #176 zombie

It's a possibility. We'll have to wait and see.

re: #166 jorline

If serious corruption ever comes to light, I think that Biden is Obama's impeachment insurance...that, and the fact that, compared to Joe Biden, ANYONE looks like an intellectual.

re: #172 soxfan4life

I liked it better when our VP was neither seen nor heard.

I liked the ones who carried a shotgun.

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Obama has never demanded an apology from a comedian or threatened to sue bloggers over internet rumors. It's very rare for presidents to even acknowledge this stuff. Bush put up with it for 8 years. He was treated brutally but he rose above it. It's what a president does. If Palin can be run out of office by comedians and bloggers how can we expect her to stand up to the world dictators.

Link for me to any place that Palin said she was making these decisions because of the jokes and abuse?

Or are you making an ASSUMPTION?

re: #174 capitalist piglet

Question:

Is anyone aware of a joke a comedian has made about Obama yet? (And I'm not talking about one that flatters him, like the "Spock" nonsense...I'm talking about one equivalent to calling Palin a "slut".)

The closest I can think of is Wanda Sykes. Something about "Oh, yeah, we love him now, first black president and all that. Just wait till he screws up. Then it'll be 'What's that white guy think he's doing?'

re: #124 SanFranciscoZionist

The Clintons were accused of murder, among other things, in what passed for the blogosphere of their day.

They were accused of murder by seriously fringe groups. Some just played the 'Vince Foster died mysteriously' meme. They were the nirther/troofers of their day.

Palin's slanders were mainstreamed.

re: #184 NelsFree

Are you channelling John Edwards, The Silky Pony?

That was Obama's plan...and, unfortunately for us, it worked

re: #179 Killgore Trout

Dude, I see horrible stuff on the internet about Obama all the time. Often it's pretty racist. He doesn't care, he has much bigger things to deal with.

Sure he has a country to destroy. What type of hits on 0bama and his family do you see like the shit Palin has had to endure. The MSM trips over each other to deliver lip service to him and Michelle. Sure some idiot on the internet might say something about him, but no networks or Huffpo type blog sites are saying the same type of shit about 0 they do about Palin.

Killgore I have to admire your shit stirring skills. 3 days of using the same tactic and it still works? Pretty good.

re: #190 wahabicorridor

The closest I can think of is Wanda Sykes. Something about "Oh, yeah, we love him now, first black president and all that. Just wait till he screws up. Then it'll be 'What's that white guy think he's doing?'

Thank you. She really told him, huh?

re: #179 Killgore Trout

Dude, I see horrible stuff on the internet about Obama all the time. Often it's pretty racist. He doesn't care, he has much bigger things to deal with.

how do you know he know's it's even there?...more ridiculous assumptions...are you say he or his staff surf the net for that sort of thing, that's what they are getting payd to do?...it's ludicris

re: #152 Killgore Trout

Not really. They pick on her because she's an easy target and she reacts poorly to jokes, criticism, blog posts and photoshops. It's very easy to get her and her supporters to react. The more they react the more the lefties are going to attack. It's very much like schoolyard bullies, they'll attack the kid who cries the easiest.

Oh, Killgore.
You know, Avanti made the same point last night. "She's such an easy target!" I then replied: "Please, for the record, state how she is 'such an easy target". You know, he NEVER responded except to say that no one on LGF would accept his explanation.
Now it's your turn. Examples would help, too.
/Still waiting for the Coke and Fries to go with that.

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Obama has never demanded an apology from a comedian or threatened to sue bloggers over internet rumors. It's very rare for presidents to even acknowledge this stuff. Bush put up with it for 8 years. He was treated brutally but he rose above it. It's what a president does. If Palin can be run out of office by comedians and bloggers how can we expect her to stand up to the world dictators.

Your "comedians and bloggers" line isn't going to cut it. First of all, in the modern world there is little distinction between comedians, bloggers, and the legitimate media. (Keep in mind people like Jon Stewart, who is a comedian but who has more political influence than just about anyone else on TV; and Arrianna Huffington, who counts as a "blogger" but who commands a large media empire.) But more importantly, it was far more than just "comedians and bloggers" hounding her, as you claim: It was pundits, columnists, and many mainstream journalists too. Furthermore, rumors that were started on blogs quickly rose to the mainstream, when AP would wrote articles about the rumors.

Palin was savaged and brutalized from every quarter on the infosphere, top to bottom -- not just by bloggers and comedians. So your repetition of this phrase doesn't ring true.

re: #152 Killgore Trout

Not really. They pick on her because she's an easy target and she reacts poorly to jokes, criticism, blog posts and photoshops.

She seems unable to talk about facts and issues. Even her own, in the case of her resignation.

Policies, guidelines, metaphors, yes.

She's not necessarily dumb, but perhaps has a certain kind of mind, or style, or something, that is just not what we expect out of leaders.

She's not unique. Betcha half the lower-profile democrats in congress are not that different, and maybe a quarter of the republicans. Might not be uncommon at the small-town mayor level, either.

But for the big show, it just don't fly.

That's my take.

re: #193 soxfan4life

Of course, the MSM loves him. There's no doubt about that.

re: #190 wahabicorridor

The closest I can think of is Wanda Sykes. Something about "Oh, yeah, we love him now, first black president and all that. Just wait till he screws up. Then it'll be 'What's that white guy think he's doing?'

At the Correspondent's Dinner. IIRC she also made fun of the media coverage of him, especially the swimsuit pics: "I don't need to be seeing your nipples and I don't want to" or something like that.

Also, there was a roast McCain and Obama both attended during the campaign where each of them made fun of themselves and each other. It was surprisingly goodnatured, and each of them laughed pretty hard at what the other said about him. I came away with a better impression of each of them as people-- i'll look for video.

re: #189 Walter L. Newton

Link for me to any place that Palin said she was making these decisions because of the jokes and abuse?

Or are you making an ASSUMPTION?

Killgore can't show me a link because Palin never indicated why she was stepping down. It is straw man for him to keep complaining that she couldn't take this or that she couldn't take that. In the most, it is only his opinion, not stated fact by Palin or any of her advisors.

Find a real story.

re: #191 BigPapa

They were accused of murder by seriously fringe groups

Since when has the Wall Street Journal been 'fringe'?

(see my #136)

re: #202 Walter L. Newton

Killgore can't show me a link because Palin never indicated why she was stepping down. It is straw man for him to keep complaining that she couldn't take this or that she couldn't take that. In the most, it is only his opinion, not stated fact by Palin or any of her advisors.

Find a real story.

and the Palin threads just keep coming...hmmm

re: #104 Killgore Trout

Actually I have seen speculation that she's going to try to establish a leadership position in the Tea Parties. I doubt it. She's probably thinking of going on the speech circuit giving motivational speeches.

She is likely to write a book and give speeches. Motivational for people who think Obama is leading us in a very wrong direction. Perhaps she is using the Reagan example.

Armywife posted yesterday, IIRC, that Palin should bump Steele and take over at the RNC and hope it is a bloodbath in the 2010 elections. Makes the most sense of all. Keeps her in the spotlight. She'll raise a ton of cash. Then 2012, Romney/ Palin. Just my thoughts.

re: #179 Killgore Trout

Dude, I see horrible stuff on the internet about Obama all the time. Often it's pretty racist. He doesn't care, he has much bigger things to deal with.

Attacks, he as President, will never ever see, because it's not mainstream, as the attacks on Palin have been.

Now that PBO is out of the country will Joe be in charge of the Wednesday night cocktail hour at the WH?

This should be a hoot!

re: #198 zombie

Her lawyer issued a statement yesterday that they were going to start suing bloggers. Her recent spat with Letterman is an example of seething over jokes. Sorry, but it's just not presidential behaviour.

Frankly, I don't think Sarah Palin displayed a "thin skin" after all the mockery she put up with...Here's a Wiki entry:

Palin's response

When asked how she felt about Fey's portrayal, Sarah Palin replied, "I watched with the volume all the way down and I thought it was hilarious... I didn't hear a word she said, but the visual was spot on."[9] However, Carly Fiorina, a spokeswoman for the John McCain campaign argued that the sketch portrayed Hillary Clinton as "very substantive", but Fiorina thought, in the case of Sarah Palin, that she was portrayed as "totally superficial". Fiorina thought the sketch was "disrespectful in the extreme" and "sexist".[10] According to another of Palin's spokespeople, Palin herself "found the sketch amusing". Palin "and the press corps watched the sketch in the back of her plane, laughing at Tina and Amy's satirical take on the two politicians."[15] Palin later claimed that she had once dressed up as Fey for Halloween.[16]

In a series of interviews, Palin made some "flubs" leading her to joke that "[she] was just trying to give Tina Fey more material". She also joked that it was to provide "job security for SNL characters."[17] Sarah Palin later remarked that she should appear on SNL to spoof a series of American Express commercials which featured Tina Fey.[18]

imo, being "thin skinned" is not Sarah Palin's problem...

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Obama has never demanded an apology from a comedian or threatened to sue bloggers over internet rumors. It's very rare for presidents to even acknowledge this stuff. Bush put up with it for 8 years. He was treated brutally but he rose above it. It's what a president does. If Palin can be run out of office by comedians and bloggers how can we expect her to stand up to the world dictators.

Obama has caused the firing of a CEO and handed the Auto industry to the UAW. It's not "very rare", it's never happened before.
Good grief.

re: #201 iceweasel

Yeah, I thought they were both hilarious at that roast.

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Obama has never demanded an apology from a comedian or threatened to sue bloggers over internet rumors.

No, but he whines a lot about real and imagined insults, like "They'll say he has a funny name", and "Fox News [fill in the blank]".

re: #197 NelsFree

Oh, Killgore.
You know, Avanti made the same point last night. "She's such an easy target!" I then replied: "Please, for the record, state how she is 'such an easy target". You know, he NEVER responded except to say that no one on LGF would accept his explanation.
Now it's your turn. Examples would help, too.
/Still waiting for the Coke and Fries to go with that.

As usual, Killgore won't respond.
/There's a new thread, F**k the old one where I've been challenged.

re: #210 Iron Fist

As a simple point of fact, if Israel decides to strike Iran, what can we do to stop them? Cut off all military aid?

Warn Iran they're coming, that would be enough.

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Obama has never demanded an apology from a comedian or threatened to sue bloggers over internet rumors. It's very rare for presidents to even acknowledge this stuff. Bush put up with it for 8 years. He was treated brutally but he rose above it. It's what a president does. If Palin can be run out of office by comedians and bloggers how can we expect her to stand up to the world dictators.

Obama's children were never the butt of an obsessive and depraved joke.
You're blaming the victim.

re: #209 Killgore Trout

Her lawyer issued a statement yesterday that they were going to start suing bloggers. Her recent spat with Letterman is an example of seething over jokes. Sorry, but it's just not presidential behaviour.

Her lawyers said that they were going to sue bloggers that are MISREPORTING why she stepped down, as in "she is under federal investigation." Her lawyers made this state AFTER she made her announcement and AFTER bloggers started to SPECULATE on why she is stepping down.

Sort of what you are doing, speculating without a ounce of proof.

re: #179 Killgore Trout

Dude, I see horrible stuff on the internet about Obama all the time. Often it's pretty racist. He doesn't care, he has much bigger things to deal with.

He would if MSNBC were doing it.

re: #179 Killgore Trout

Dude, I see horrible stuff on the internet about Obama all the time. Often it's pretty racist. He doesn't care, he has much bigger things to deal with.

Linky linky linky?

re: #179 Killgore Trout

Dude, I see horrible stuff on the internet about Obama all the time. Often it's pretty racist. He doesn't care, he has much bigger things to deal with.

Ohhh. Not the mean ole interwebs! How about national TV, 24/7 for months during the campaign? And even after she lost her bid they still continue.

re: #152 Killgore Trout

They pick on her because she's an easy target and she reacts poorly to jokes, criticism, blog posts and photoshops. It's very easy to get her and her supporters to react. The more they react the more the lefties are going to attack.

This reads like Obama statecraft. I hope you're not trying to imply that Palin's and her supporters reactions cause more of the vile craziness. Blaming the victim is absurd.

You want to get Obama's supporters to react? Push the narrative that Obama's children are whores or drug addicts; then blame them for reacting to it.

re: #218 Walter L. Newton

Sort of what you are doing, speculating without a ounce of proof.

Dude, even if you are a legend in your own mind, that was spot on!
/dude

re: #209 Killgore Trout

Her lawyer issued a statement yesterday that they were going to start suing bloggers. Her recent spat with Letterman is an example of seething over jokes. Sorry, but it's just not presidential behaviour.

All behavior seems un-presidential until the person becomes president.

Obama smoked pot, snorted coke, goofed off, and "palled around with domestic terrorists."
Clinton fucked women in hallways and motel rooms and lied like a snake.
Richard Nixon bullied and swore and ranted and looked like apoplectic wart-hog.
Johnson made racist jokes and showed off his penis to women on boats that passed his schooner (seriously).
Reagan appeared in a howlingly bad film as the co-star with a chimpanzee.

And yet all these men became president.

"Un-presidential behavior" is par for the course with most presidents.

Ooooh, new thread!
/Gave up waiting for Killgore to respond

re: #223 BigPapa

Push the narrative that Obama's children are whores or drug addicts; then blame them for reacting to it.

Ok, to be fair, I did see a tabloid headline that Michelle is drinking too much.

re: #194 snowcrash

Killgore I have to admire your shit stirring skills. 3 days of using the same tactic and it still works? Pretty good.

Yes, I wonder if he's pulling our leg. If so... why?

re: #174 capitalist piglet

Question:

Is anyone aware of a joke a comedian has made about Obama yet? (And I'm not talking about one that flatters him, like the "Spock" nonsense...I'm talking about one equivalent to calling Palin a "slut".)

Anyone?

re: #122 Ojoe

Palin, or someone in her shoes, needs to publicly curse the media-political jackals with a great string of scorching four letter words.

I believe that the majority of Americans already do this in the privacy of their own thoughts, and it only awaits open expression; the media-political types will never understand it until it is openly said by someone prominent.

Millions will cheer when it finally happens.

I have long advocated that politicians and other targets of the standard media bias should directly confront the media establishment as an opponent in and of itself, rather than as a neutral observer that has run off the rails.
It is time to stop complaining about bias per se, though. The problem with the establishment media is not their bias, it is their deceptive pretense of objectivity. The whole idea of a neutral or objective press would have been quite alien to the Founding Fathers. Every newspaper in those days proudly proclaimed its bias right on the masthead. An individual reporter might report a particular event objectively but readers were always aware of the agenda and that the paper existed to advance that agenda.

The myth of objectivity originated in the late 19th century with the formation of collective wire services like AP and Reuters. These had to funnel news to a variety of outlets with a diverse set of biases and a careful avoidance of conflict was essential.
Over time, what really happened of course was not the development of an objective press, but the evolution of a consensus built around the agenda and institutional world view of the wire services themselves. A crucial factor in this was the sheer scale of the wire services. They employed far more reporters and editors than any individual outlet and this gave them a great deal of influence with journalism schools, amounting to a virtual monopoly in fact.
This, and the influence of various 1960s advertising strategies, are the real origins of the media-industrial complex as we know and loathe it today.

re: #230 debutaunt

Anyone?

Aint gonna find it!

re: #223 BigPapa

iirc, there was someone who wanted to market dolls (two dolls which looked just like Obama's children), and Obama's team immediately put a stop to it. (this was on CNN). also, Obama told the press (during the campaign) in no uncertain terms that his wife was off limits...

re: #197 NelsFree

Oh, Killgore.
You know, Avanti made the same point last night. "She's such an easy target!" I then replied: "Please, for the record, state how she is 'such an easy target". You know, he NEVER responded except to say that no one on LGF would accept his explanation.
Now it's your turn. Examples would help, too.
/Still waiting for the Coke and Fries to go with that.

Here's a list of "Palinisms". I am not passing judgement, just sending a collection that someone else has posted.

[Link: politicalhumor.about.com...]

re: #146 zombie

Richard Nixon was also famously thin-skinned: "You won't have Dick Nixon to kick around any more" -- Richard Nixon, 1964, as he QUIT office. And what happened four years later? He won the presidency.

So, a thin-skinned politician who was reviled by the media quit his political office and was "finished" in politics -- and yet ran and won the presidency four years later.

Notice any parallels?

With respect, zombie, that was not a resignation statement. Nixon said it in 1962, after his first comeback attempt failed and Pat Brown defeated him for Governor of California.

Afterwards, Nixon resigned the Presidency after being told he had no chance of surviving an impeachment trial in the Senate.

re: #235 jvic

With respect, zombie, that was not a resignation statement. Nixon said it in 1962, after his first comeback attempt failed and Pat Brown defeated him for Governor of California.

Afterwards, Nixon resigned the Presidency after being told he had no chance of surviving an impeachment trial in the Senate.

Ah, my bad -- I thought he said it in 1964, not '62, after he stepped down from politics forever.

re: #233 J.S.

iirc, there was someone who wanted to market dolls (two dolls which looked just like Obama's children), and Obama's team immediately put a stop to it. (this was on CNN). also, Obama told the press (during the campaign) in no uncertain terms that his wife was off limits...

That's right. The company actually DID release the dolls, which were even named Malia and Sasha, IIRC, while denying it had anything to do with the Obamas. After the Obama team weighed in the company announced they wouldn't be making any more of the dolls.

(they're probably fetching a big price on ebay now, heh)

re: #115 Killgore Trout

Palin's problem is that she can't take criticism from bloggers and comedians. Obama can. She has no chance at survival in public life if she's this thin skinned.

WTF?

Comedians look like Cagney tapdancing around Obama.

BTW, between you and iceweasel, which is the sock?

re: #162 Walter L. Newton

From the mouth of an expert.

One thousand updings!

Sorry I got to this thread late, everybody! What did I miss? I was busy doing some contract work for the David Letterman show... you know, writing some throw-away one-liners for David's initial standup routine. My favorite one was about how Obama's daughters are really broken up about Michael Jackson's passing, because he was the first guy they ever slept with...

They rejected it, though, because Obama isn't a conservative republican. Oh well, back to teh drawing board.

re: #53 zombie

Palin not a victim of biased media?

Gimme a break. She has been abused and dragged through the coals more than any politician of the last decade -- possibly even including George Bush. She has been lied about, vilified, mocked, humiliated, and politically raped for a solid year. So yeah, I think she is a victim.

Joe Biden was her opponent -- VP vs. VP. What do you think he's going to say on this topic? Of course he sides with her attackers.

And the worst of her vilifiers was McCain - not because of anything he said, but because of all he DIDN'T say to stand up to the MSM and the lib machine.

He sure stood up for Hussein against Cunningham, though, didn't he!

McCain's problem is the same as the MSM/libs/obamabots: they're afraid of her integrity-based popularity. They all know she's the only reason most conservatives and/or Republicans voted for McCain.

re: #210 Iron Fist

Spot on.

You can't resist...

the iron fist.

re: #167 Killgore Trout

Obama has never demanded an apology from a comedian or threatened to sue bloggers over internet rumors. It's very rare for presidents to even acknowledge this stuff. Bush put up with it for 8 years. He was treated brutally but he rose above it. It's what a president does. If Palin can be run out of office by comedians and bloggers how can we expect her to stand up to the world dictators.

The world's dictators are verbal shrinking violets compared to the commentors at KOS, HuffPo, or your average lib editorializing 'journalist'.

Palin is tough. Palin RESPECTS her children; if the Letterman et al treatment of them is why she's getting out of the line of fire, I have the utmost admiration for her.

Palin loves her family, and loves her country. Those who so horrifically vilify her for her 'crime' of disagreeing with them seem only to be possessed with a love for hating.

Biden also says they misread how bad the economy was. Funny how he thinks misdiagnosing the problem could result in a cure. Also, wasn't he in the Senate before this, and weren't the Dems in the majority for the last 2 years of Bush? I never see the Repubs pointing that out.

Funny how liberals never think that 24 hour a day bashing is anything but fair...unless it's against their guy.

re: #31 Desert Dog

I always here about the Rightwing Attack machine, but I never see it actually running.

I can think of a few examples of people on the right who, in the past, went down roads best left untraveled. The leftwing, on the other hand, has elevated those type of attacks to "business as usual".

joe biden is a loathsome buffoon. he has no influence in the White House and Obama probably has a special assistant in charge of scheduling him to go as far away from DC as possible as frequently as possible.

Had to leave last thread unexpectedly. I come back and yall over here!

Biden's comment and refusal to acknowledge the obvious makes one ponder. This makes me suspect that the Palin torment/smear campaign has probably come from the top. Bloggers and MSM are just the vehicle by which to spread the BS. Remember Emanuel and company have morning briefings with certain journalists and bloggers. This could get very, very interesting.

I think I speak for everyone when I say: "shut up, you big idiot!"
If he or his puppet-master, Obama, went through the kind of abuse Palin went through, they would have collapsed ages ago. They are kept sheltered by lackeys and nit-wits.

re: #247 _RememberTonyC

joe biden is a loathsome buffoon. he has no influence in the White House and Obama probably has a special assistant in charge of scheduling him to go as far away from DC as possible as frequently as possible.

The one person in the administration with less clout than HRC.

Vice President Joe Biden says Sarah Palin is no victim.

Well, that settles it. No need for further discussion.

Nothing to see here, folks. Move along now, please.

Just move right along. Thank You.

Vice President Biden rejected Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s complaint that she was the victim of political blood sport yesterday - a day after she stunned the nation with her abrupt resignation.

Hmm. You know what's missing from this opening graf of the NY Daily News story? What's missing from the entire story, in fact?

A direct quotation from Sarah Palin herself documenting that she, in her own words, characterized herself as a "victim of political bloodsport."

For that matter, the word "victim" doesn't appear in ANY direct quotation -- not from Palin, not from Biden, and not from George Stephanopoulos, who was interviewing Biden.

Which leads me to wonder if "victim" was spin applied by the Daily News reporter, Michael Saul, and/or an anonymous copy editor. (News headlines are often written by copy editors, and not necessarily by the reporter whose name appears in the story's byline.)

Freudian. There are people who hate women who think they don't. They might like their mom's or sisters. But a lot of the Palin angst is people having an unconscious hate stirred up in them by her presence. It points to a lack of tolerance. She's the wrong type of woman. Putting her on a national stage would make her represent them. They would have to deal with the hate. That's why these people would rather keep her on a local stage.

re: #215 unrealizedviewpoint

As usual, Killgore won't respond.
/There's a new thread, F**k the old one where I've been challenged.

3 hours has certainly been enough time for him to respond, don't ya think?

Following up on my #252 -- here's Georgie-Porgie Snuffleupagus's blog entry about his Biden interview. Key quotes from GS:

Vice President Joe Biden today rejected Gov. Sarah Palin's complaint that she has been the victim of political blood sport.

"No, I respect her decision, I don't," Biden told me when I asked him if he agreed with the Alaska governor's complaint that she had been the victim of "superficial, wasteful political blood sport."

And if you watch the video clip in the blog entry, Stephanopolous's actual words to Biden during the interview were: "she cast herself as the victim of political bloodsport in that press conference. Is that how you see it?"

Finally, here's a full transcript of Palin's resignation speech. Search it and you will find that the string "-blood-" appears exactly once:

These troops, in their important missions now, there is where truly the worthy causes are in this world. And that's where our public resources should be, our public priority, with time and resources spent on that, not on this superficial, wasteful, political bloodsport. So may we all learn from them.

Guess which word DOESN'T pass Palin's lips in this press conference -- not once? Not only did she not use the word "victim," but to whatever extent she might have implied that the "political bloodsport" had victims, she put Alaskan taxpayers first, her family second, and herself last.

In short, "Palin called herself a victim" is the invention of George Stephanopolous. Suffice to say that I think he should go bugger himself senseless with a stainless-steel pineapple.

re: #255 Throbert McGee

In short, "Palin called herself a victim" is the invention of George Stephanopolous.

I think it also needs to be emphasized that however much of a turd Biden might be, it can at least be said in his favor that he declined to endorse Stephanopolous's attempt to paint Sarah as a thin-skinned whiner. So I give Biden some small credit for that.

re: #53 zombie

Palin not a victim of biased media?

Gimme a break. She has been abused and dragged through the coals more than any politician of the last decade -- possibly even including George Bush. She has been lied about, vilified, mocked, humiliated, and politically raped for a solid year. So yeah, I think she is a victim.

Joe Biden was her opponent -- VP vs. VP. What do you think he's going to say on this topic? Of course he sides with her attackers.

"Politically raped"? Did every hardline-right-winger get a memo in the mail or something? Or did Rush recently use that sort of phrase? I keep seeing that kind of absurd hyperbole all over the place by the right over the last few days.

The media did not treat her unfairly. If you go back to the Couric interview, for instance, you'll see Couric did nothing but ask her a question, let her spew her randomly put together cliches and catchphrases, and then ask a followup. The problem was that there was nothing even a half-inch below the surface of Palin's rote memorized catchphrases. She did not have the fundamental knowledge needed to answer the kinds of questions to run for vice president. So yeah, she looked stupid, and many on the left wing blogs mocked her. Tough luck, that's public life, and that's what happens when one makes oneself appear ignorant. And the fact that the right uses this as a prime example of supposed left wing media bias shows the emptiness of the charge.

re: #140 VioletTiger

I continue to be amazed that the biggest moron in the campaign was actually Biden. He gaffed and gaffed, yet they painted Sarah as the goof.

Biden makes a lot of gaffes, but he does not consistently reveal the total empty-headed absence of knowledge that Palin revealed when asked basic political and policy questions. For a compare-and-contrast, here's a video back from the campaign--where Palin and Biden are asked the exact same questions. Note that Palin for instance can't even think of a single other Supreme Court case than Roe v. Wade. This is unacceptable for someone running for vice president.

Give VP Joe One Prop -

He remained a Delaware Gentleman. I believe him to be more buffoon than anything else. AND - he remained a gentleman as to Gov. Palin. Give him the prop. Monday begins a New Week. That is all.

-S-