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Money can’t buy you happiness but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery.

Spike Milligan

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1 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:27:00pm

Are you ready, music video fans?

2 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:28:24pm

Here's the music videos from the past night:

100 - Green Day, Basket Case
99 - DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, Parents Just Don't Understand
98 - REM, Everybody Hurts
97 - Human League, Don't You Want Me
96 - The Replacements, Bastards of Young
95 - George Michael, Faith
94 - Wyclef Jean, Gone 'Til November
93 - U2, Sunday Bloody Sunday
92 - LL Cool J, Going Back to Cali
91 - Prince and the Revolution, 1999
90 - Lenny Kravitz, Are You Gonna Go My Way
89 - They Might Be Giants, Don't Let's Start
88 - Janet Jackson, Love Will Never Do (Without You)
87 - The Prodigy, Firestarter
86 - Billy Idol, Cradle of Love
85 - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Don't Come Around Here No More
84 - Method Man & Mary J. Blige, 84-I'll Be There For You / You're All I Need To Get By
83 - Godley & Creme, Cry
82 - Def Leppard, Pour Some Sugar on Me
81 - Twisted Sister, We're Not Gonna Take It
80 - The Cure, Close to Me
79 - Fiona Apple, Criminal
78 - Adam Ant, Goody Two Shoes
77 - Radiohead, Fake Plastic Trees
76 - Devo, Whip It
75 - Public Enemy, Fight the Power
74 - C+C Music Factory, Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now)
73 - Band Aid, Do They Know It's Christmas
72 - The Chemical Brothers, Setting Sun
71 - M. C. Hammer, U Can't Touch This
70 - New Order, True Faith
69 - Smashing Pumpkins, 1979
68 - Duran Duran, Girls on Film
67 - Don Henley, Boys of Summer
66 - The Beastie Boys, Fight For Your Right
65 - Garbage, Stupid Girl
64 - Beck, Loser
63 - Tone-Loc, Wild Thing
62 - U2, Where The Streets Have No Name
61 - Van Halen, Right Now

Tonight, we'll finish off the lower 50, and start on the upper 50 tomorrow!

3 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:28:31pm

Money can't buy you love...

4 Gang of One  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:28:36pm

I really should be sleeping.

5 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:28:41pm

sure, but do you have your ticket and wristband?

6 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:29:23pm

re: #4 Gang of One

I really should be sleeping.

No, this is the LNDT - you should be drinking!

7 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:30:49pm

re: #6 gmsc

No, this is the LNDT - you should be drinking!

and we don't mean water... unless it's with scotch.

8 TheMatrix31  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:31:00pm

So stupid though, Red...

How can they crack down on scalping when there's no face value on the tickets anyway? It's not like you paid anything for them.

9 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:31:13pm

re: #6 gmsc

LOL!

10 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:31:22pm

We begin at #60 with Voices Carry, by 'til tuesday. Aren't you happy the band is doing so well?

11 blackpajamas  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:31:40pm

re: #1 gmsc

Are you ready, music video fans?

I wrote a poem. I suppose it could use a video accompaniment.

12 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:32:22pm

re: #11 blackpajamas

I wrote a poem. I suppose it could use a video accompaniment.

You provide the poem, I'll provide the music videos!

13 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:32:27pm

While I'm busy appointing Peter King president, I might as well have Lisa Kelly fill in as governor of Alaska.

I'd consider Alex Debagorski for the spot, but he's not even a US citicizen. Maybe some sort of ambassador job...

14 ggt  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:33:48pm

weet dreams all!

15 Gang of One  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:34:00pm

re: #6 gmsc

No, this is the LNDT - you should be drinking!

Maybe that's why I can't sleep. Drank earlier in the evening -- always ends up with me suffering from insomnia.

16 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:34:24pm

#59 became so popular originally, the production company seems to be afraid that someone, somewhere, will still watch an enjoy it on the internet!

It's En Vogue, My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It)

17 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:34:38pm

re: #14 ggt

weet dreams all!

G'Nite, ggt!

18 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:34:57pm

re: #14 ggt

Bye ggt!

19 Gang of One  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:35:39pm

Have good one, ggt.

20 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:35:39pm

re: #15 Gang of One

Maybe that's why I can't sleep. Drank earlier in the evening -- always ends up with me suffering from insomnia.

On this thread, we never suffer from insomnia. As a matter of fact, we greatly enjoy it!

21 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:36:37pm

re: #10 gmsc

We begin at #60 with Voices Carry, by 'til tuesday. Aren't you happy the band is doing so well?


[Video]

hush, hush...

22 blackpajamas  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:37:11pm

A Wee Scot'ish Po'em:

To all the Liberal Fa'ks!

Should bold Alaskans be forgot,
Then never to campaign?
Should Patriots be distraught,
Or freely plot revenge!

Strike sweet revenge my dear,
By a populist decree.
You'll hit'em harder than Old Maureen
Falls from the ugly tree

And surely you'll build your voice!
And surely we'll applaud!
And then O'Bozo they will throw
One bus under Gawd,

Then they'll all be driven to drink
Like the dates of Kennedy
Maybe they'll even lower our taxes
Instead of planting trees

For sweet revenge, my dear,
For swift revenge,
We'll kick a boot of kindness yet
Straight up their green backsides

When it gets to voting time
And they can't run anymore
When they try to hide behind regret
Even shame will slam it's doors

For sweet revenge, my dear,
For deep revenge,
She'll shine a beam of sunshine yet
Straight up their pucker'd pride

(w/possible video accompaniment: pipers, instrumental, guitarisimo)

23 Gang of One  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:37:25pm

re: #20 gmsc

On this thread, we never suffer from insomnia. As a matter of fact, we greatly enjoy it!

Well, It was come here or do the vampire thing.

24 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:38:06pm

re: #15 Gang of One

Maybe that's why I can't sleep. Drank earlier in the evening -- always ends up with me suffering from insomnia.

"Drinking: You're doing it wrong."

i'm available for tutoring... cheap. %-)

25 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:38:17pm

David Bowie comes in at #58, with Ashes To Ashes:

(See blackpajamas? Just like I promised!)

26 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:39:39pm

re: #23 Gang of One

Well, It was come here or do the vampire thing.

I have one gay friend who, when questioned about his homosexuality, likes to give the following explanation:

"You know how, when you're bitten by vampire bat, you turn into a vampire? Well, I was bitten by a fruit bat!"

27 Gang of One  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:40:04pm

re: #25 gmsc

David Bowie comes in at #58, with Ashes To Ashes:


[Video](See blackpajamas? Just like I promised!)

Where does Yes's 'Owner of A Lonely Heart' come in?

28 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:40:15pm

re: #22 blackpajamas

A Wee Scot'ish Po'em:

To all the Liberal Fa'ks!

Should bold Alaskans be forgot,
Then never to campaign?
Should Patriots be distraught,
Or freely plot revenge!

Strike sweet revenge my dear,
By a populist decree.
You'll hit'em harder than Old Maureen
Falls from the ugly tree

And surely you'll build your voice!
And surely we'll applaud!
And then O'Bozo they will throw
One bus under Gawd,

Then they'll all be driven to drink
Like the dates of Kennedy
Maybe they'll even lower our taxes
Instead of planting trees

For sweet revenge, my dear,
For swift revenge,
We'll kick a boot of kindness yet
Straight up their green backsides

When it gets to voting time
And they can't run anymore
When they try to hide behind regret
Even shame will slam it's doors

For sweet revenge, my dear,
For deep revenge,
She'll shine a beam of sunshine yet
Straight up their pucker'd pride

(w/possible video accompaniment: pipers, instrumental, guitarisimo)

I love it!

29 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:41:04pm

re: #26 gmsc

I have one gay friend who, when questioned about his homosexuality, likes to give the following explanation:

"You know how, when you're bitten by vampire bat, you turn into a vampire? Well, I was bitten by a fruit bat!"

i hate it when people just wing it with explanations...

30 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:41:05pm

re: #27 Gang of One

Where does Yes's 'Owner of A Lonely Heart' come in?

That depends - I haven't seen the music video for that one.
;)

31 Gang of One  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:41:20pm

re: #26 gmsc

I have one gay friend who, when questioned about his homosexuality, likes to give the following explanation:

"You know how, when you're bitten by vampire bat, you turn into a vampire? Well, I was bitten by a fruit bat!"

Better I'm here, then.
/NTTAWWT

32 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:41:33pm

re: #23 Gang of One

It's reassuring to know that if I'm ever bitten by a vampire bat, the damn thing will reek of rum and won't be able to fly in a straight line for awhile.

33 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:42:03pm

re: #27 Gang of One

Where does Yes's 'Owner of A Lonely Heart' come in?

this is a "Best of" series, not "Worst Songs Ever"...

hope that helps. %-)

/white smoke

34 Gang of One  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:43:21pm

re: #30 gmsc

That depends - I haven't seen the music video for that one.
;)

Here ya go.

35 blackpajamas  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:43:33pm

re: #25 gmsc

David Bowie comes in at #58, with Ashes To Ashes:

[Video](See blackpajamas? Just like I promised!)

Bowie is an interesting artist. I'm not too familiar with him, but I wonder if he's a guitarist?

36 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:43:37pm

re: #21 redc1c4

hush, hush...

You'll like the next 2 videos, red. Their title both indicate things to do with being quiet.

Somehow, the videos themselves don't wind up all that quiet though.

At #57, it's Björk, with It's Oh So Quiet:

37 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:44:10pm

re: #32 Fenway_Nation

It's reassuring to know that if I'm ever bitten by a vampire bat, the damn thing will reek of rum and won't be able to fly in a straight line for awhile.

i'll kill mine while it's still blacked out, and be able to recover the ethanol it tried to steal by sucking *it* dry.

/payback

38 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:45:40pm

re: #34 Gang of One

Here ya go.

not sure what hurts worse: my ears or my eyes...

39 Gang of One  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:47:20pm

re: #38 redc1c4

not sure what hurts worse: my ears or my eyes...

Yes -- an acquired taste.

40 blackpajamas  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:47:43pm

re: #36 gmsc

If in the mood for (semi) peaceful melodious chanting music, grep for Dies Irae.

41 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:47:54pm

re: #39 Gang of One

Yes -- an acquired taste.

Oh, Good. I didn't want to say anything.

42 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:48:17pm

re: #36 gmsc

You'll like the next 2 videos, red. Their title both indicate things to do with being quiet.

Somehow, the videos themselves don't wind up all that quiet though.

At #57, it's Björk, with It's Oh So Quiet:

[Video]

Björk you... i liked 'Voices Carry', which is a rare exception in the relentless litany of popularity over taste that this countdown has enshrined.

/gag me with a spoon.

43 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:49:20pm

Our other "quiet" video?

Metallica's Enter Sandman at #56!

44 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:49:25pm

re: #39 Gang of One

Yes -- an acquired taste.

once you've acquired numb tastebuds, everything is possible.

my favorite Yes song is off of "Tormato".

45 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:50:00pm

re: #42 redc1c4

Björk you...

If you say so...

46 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:50:04pm

Regarding the list...I'm happy; hope you're happy too.

47 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:50:06pm

re: #42 redc1c4

Björk you... i liked 'Voices Carry', which is a rare exception in the relentless litany of popularity over taste that this countdown has enshrined.

/gag me with a spoon.


NO!
You didn't say "gag me with a spoon"!

48 mrshankly01  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:50:13pm

re: #36 gmsc

Wow, this must be the alternative rock part of the countdown.

49 Gang of One  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:51:29pm

re: #44 redc1c4

once you've acquired numb tastebuds, everything is possible.

my favorite Yes song is off of "Tormato".

Heh! I thought that album was their end. They managed to put out Drama after that.

50 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:52:30pm

re: #48 mrshankly01

Wow, this must be the alternative rock part of the countdown.

Well, I like to balance things out.

For example, we finished last night with Van Halen's Right Now. That was with Sammy Hagar, so now it's time for a little David Lee Roth with Just A Gigolo/I Ain't Got Nobody at #55:

51 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:53:09pm

Stuck in a pagoda with Tricia Toyota...

52 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:53:41pm

re: #47 Floral Giraffe

NO!
You didn't say "gag me with a spoon"!

i live in the Valley, like totally... it's pretty much required. %-)

53 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:54:19pm
54 Gang of One  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:55:15pm

re: #47 Floral Giraffe

NO!
You didn't say "gag me with a spoon"!

So, totally bitchin'!

55 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:55:19pm

#54 is Marilyn Manson, with the ironically titled The Beautiful People:

The rest of the video countdown will continue after today's history lesson.

56 calcajun  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:55:46pm

re: #3 Floral Giraffe

Money can't buy you love...

[Video]

But you sure can rent it./

57 calcajun  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:56:15pm

re: #54 Gang of One

So, totally bitchin'!

[Video]

Tubular, man.

58 gmsc  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:57:42pm

re: #56 calcajun

But you sure can rent it./

Weird Al agrees:

59 redc1c4  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:57:49pm

re: #51 Floral Giraffe

Gigantor!

60 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:58:06pm

re: #57 calcajun

Tubular, man.

Ahem, it's tubular dude...
;)

61 blackpajamas  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:58:10pm

re: #48 mrshankly01

Wow, this must be the alternative rock part of the countdown.

Maybe I should start a new concert series: Alternative Monsters of Rock.

Opening for Ronnie James Dido, the new Emo sensation: Cubic Zirconia!

62 Gang of One  Mon, Jul 6, 2009 11:59:50pm

re: #53 redc1c4

Yes!

I remember hearing that one live at MSG in 1978.

63 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:00:01am

Today in History, July 7th:
Click here for History Channel's July 7th video.

Highlights of this day in history: President William McKinley signs the Newlands Resolution annexing Hawaii as a territory of the United States. Mother Frances Xavier Cabrini becomes the first American to be canonized. Ronald Reagan nominates Sandra Day O'Connor to become the first female US Supreme Court Justice. Industrialist Henry J. Kaiser begins construction of the Boulder Dam (now known as Hoover Dam).

Other notable July 7th events include:

1456 – A retrial verdict acquits Joan of Arc of heresy 25 years after her death.

1865 – American Civil War: four conspirators in the assassination of President Abraham Lincoln are hanged.

1928 – Sliced bread is sold for the first time by the Chillicothe Baking Company of Chillicothe, Missouri. It is described as “the greatest forward step in the baking industry since bread was wrapped".

1946 – Howard Hughes nearly dies when his XF-11 spy plane prototype crashes in a Beverly Hills neighborhood.

1947 – Alleged and disputed Roswell UFO incident.

1958 – President Dwight D. Eisenhower signs the Alaska Statehood Act into United States law.

1980 – Institution of sharia in Iran.

64 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:00:16am

re: #59 redc1c4

LOL!
I had forgotten that!

65 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:00:48am

re: #61 blackpajamas

Maybe I should start a new concert series: Alternative Monsters of Rock.

Opening for Ronnie James Dido, the new Emo sensation: Cubic Zirconia!

I like when Futurama did "Monsters of Vaguely Folkish Alterna-Rock!"

66 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:02:06am

That list is omitting the July 7, 2005 Bombings in London...

God bless those lost. We'll never forget you.

67 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:02:23am

Plastic Bertrand Ca Plane Pour Moi!

68 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:03:34am

Let's have a little fun in Our House at #53, courtesy of Madness:

69 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:03:59am

re: #64 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
I had forgotten that!

Stukas over Disneyland?

70 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:04:18am

re: #66 TheMatrix31

That list is omitting the July 7, 2005 Bombings in London...

God bless those lost. We'll never forget you.

That's why I link to the Wikipedia in the first line. I can't always cover everything.

71 blackpajamas  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:04:38am

re: #63 gmsc

1946 – Howard Hughes nearly dies when his XF-11 spy plane prototype crashes in a Beverly Hills neighborhood.

Howard Hughes was a tough act to follow. Even though he was very financially spoiled (because his father made billions from inventing the most productive drill bits of the time for oil/gas exploration), he was exceptionally bold.

//It's time for my midnight (cookie) feeding, g'nite all!

72 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:06:57am

re: #70 gmsc

That's why I link to the Wikipedia in the first line. I can't always cover everything.

Epic fail, Pi-Guy!

73 pat  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:07:34am

Hughs was responsible for huge(pun intended) breakthroughs in fields from photography, aerodynamics, and aerospace. Huge.

74 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:08:06am

#52 starts with probably one of the most memorable images in music video history - the record needle "playing" the street! Too many college students today would watch this and wonder what that's supposed to be.

It's Lauryn Hill, with Everything Is Everything:

75 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:09:59am

re: #42 redc1c4

Björk you...

Björk us all. I tend to dig this interpretation of her "Army of Me" song.

76 mrshankly01  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:10:55am

re: #75 Slumbering Behemoth

I enjoyed the Sugarcubes better than her solo career.

77 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:10:57am

re: #74 gmsc

#52 starts with probably one of the most memorable images in music video history - the record needle "playing" the street! Too many college students today would watch this and wonder what that's supposed to be.

It's Lauryn Hill, with Everything Is Everything:

[Video]


Bleh, I HATE that song.

78 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:11:04am

re: #71 blackpajamas

Howard Hughes was a tough act to follow. Even though he was very financially spoiled (because his father made billions from inventing the most productive drill bits of the time for oil/gas exploration), he was exceptionally bold.

//It's time for my midnight (cookie) feeding, g'nite all!

and he was done in, in part, by the demonization of pain management. with all his injuries, opiates were appropriate, but instead he was switched to barbiturates, so he wouldn't become a junkie.

instead, he went nuts.

that's the professional opinion of my resident pharmacist.

79 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:12:31am

re: #75 Slumbering Behemoth

Björk us all. I tend to dig this interpretation of her "Army of Me" song.

i'll stick with Manny, Moe, and Jack.

80 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:13:04am

Tonight's last video could be embedded, but I'd risk turning it into a boobie thread.

It didn't seem to happen last night with Girls on Film at #68, but that was also early in the thread.

We'll round the lower 50 music videos with a little mammary goodness, thanks to Golden Earring's Twilight Zone at #51.

81 mrshankly01  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:13:12am

re: #78 redc1c4

Interesting. He certainly went nuts.

82 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:14:51am

re: #76 mrshankly01

This hessian hangs his head low, and quietly admits sharing your sentiment.
/not very "metal" of me...

83 The Other Les  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:15:45am

Mr. Welch, who usually does things that one should not do in a role playing game, has a suggestion.

I hate the word czar. I also hate the versions tsar, tzar and csar. Why the hell do we have government experts that use that title? Why use a term for a Russian king lineage that ended in a massacre and the installation of one of the most repressive governments in history? Why not use other famous titles of past leaders? Why do we have to beat the word czar to death? Why not try other stuff, a few examples:

Housing Hetman
Car Khan
Energy Jarl
Drug Shogun
Bonus Poobah
Health Sheik
Tax Caesar

It would also be much better if they made the people in this roles to dress the part. At least the news conferences would be more colorful.

84 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:16:53am

re: #77 TheMatrix31

Bleh, I HATE that song.

amen, brother, plus i despise the entire genre...

85 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:16:54am

re: #82 Slumbering Behemoth

This hessian hangs his head low, and quietly admits sharing your sentiment.

Sounds like a hessian with no aggression.

86 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:18:12am

re: #83 The Other Les

Cyber Mikado?

87 mrshankly01  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:18:17am

re: #82 Slumbering Behemoth

No shame here. I mean, I have a Smiths song title as my Nick.
I was a Maiden fan many years before I heard a Smiths song.

88 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:18:57am

re: #79 redc1c4

Loud, raw, and sloppy. Punk is a beautiful thing to behold.

89 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:20:42am

re: #84 redc1c4

amen, brother, plus i despise the entire genre...

Well yeah, that goes without saying ;)

90 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:21:29am

re: #88 Slumbering Behemoth

Loud, raw, and sloppy. Punk is a beautiful thing to behold.

it's made me what i am today...

/white smoke

91 mrshankly01  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:21:46am

Everyone. I am logged in on my iPhone. If you got a heart from me, it was supposed to be a plus. Fat fingers. I need a special dialing wand.

92 freetoken  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:21:54am

re: #80 gmsc

Tonight's last video could be embedded, but I'd risk turning it into a boobie thread.


Like... dude... it's after midnight. Never a better time for a boobie thread...

93 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:23:31am

re: #91 mrshankly01

Everyone. I am logged in on my iPhone. If you got a heart from me, it was supposed to be a plus. Fat fingers. I need a special dialing wand.

LOL that happens sometimes when I'm on my Pre...

94 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:23:40am

re: #85 gmsc

Sounds like a hessian with no aggression.

It would seem I have come down some.

95 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:23:56am

Good night, late night lizards!
Stay scaly!
See you soon!

96 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:24:13am

re: #91 mrshankly01

Everyone. I am logged in on my iPhone. If you got a heart from me, it was supposed to be a plus. Fat fingers. I need a special dialing wand.

i got a rock...

97 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:24:21am

re: #91 mrshankly01

Everyone. I am logged in on my iPhone. If you got a heart from me, it was supposed to be a plus. Fat fingers. I need a special dialing wand.

I did that last night on my iPod Touch. It's worth it just to zoom in first.

98 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:24:41am

re: #91 mrshankly01

LOL.
I got your heart.
Thank you!
;)

99 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:24:44am

re: #92 freetoken

Like... dude... it's after midnight. Never a better time for a boobie thread...

tit's always the right time...

100 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:26:40am
101 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:26:43am

re: #99 redc1c4

tit's always the right time...

DOMAInd if I do!
;)

102 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:27:55am

re: #90 redc1c4

Cali punk FTW! But hey, NY is alright for punk too.
/

103 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:30:03am

Good morning, all.

104 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:30:45am

re: #103 BatGuano

Good morning, all.

G'Morning, BatGuano!

105 mrshankly01  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:30:47am

re: #103 BatGuano

Morning bg.

106 shiplord kirel  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:31:37am

I'm involved in some delicate international negotiations with a fellow evil-u-tionist from Canada. I offered to trade him our Texas Board of Education for the 10,000 dumbest people in Ontario, Ottawa excluded. He insists that I have to include Ottawa; with its huge proportion of uber-dumb bureaucrats, lobbyists, and politicians. I might accept the counter-offer if he will keep the MPs and the NGO executives.
Any advice?

107 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:33:08am

re: #106 shiplord kirel

Ask for two tons of Canadica.
/

108 mrshankly01  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:34:22am

re: #106 shiplord kirel

Make sure to get the senators. You can give him the stars.

109 mrshankly01  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:35:07am

re: #106 shiplord kirel

A case of labatts, too.

110 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:36:13am

I've just skimmed this thread so I'm not sure what the dominant theme is. I'm hoping it is the boobie thread. :)

111 mrshankly01  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:36:38am

Night all. Early classes tomorrow. Thanks for the videos, PI.

112 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:37:41am

re: #111 mrshankly01

Night all. Early classes tomorrow. Thanks for the videos, PI.

You're welcome.

Sleep well, Mr. Shankly!

113 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:38:12am

re: #111 mrshankly01

G,night mrshankely. Frankly, was it something I said? :)

114 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:39:09am

re: #102 Slumbering Behemoth

Cali punk FTW! But hey, NY is alright for punk too.
/

i met him back stage when my friend's band opened for him last year...

Lee Ving rocks!

115 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:39:10am

re: #113 BatGuano

G,night mrshankely. Frankly, was it something I said? :)

Surely you jest!

116 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:39:40am
117 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:40:04am

re: #115 gmsc

Surely you jest!

I don't jest. And don't call me Shirley.

118 freetoken  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:40:46am

re: #99 redc1c4

tit's always the right time...

'specially when so many wonderful Kana videos have been posted over the last week.

/ok - so it won't make ∏♂'s list of top 100 videos... but the, um, clothes, are better...

119 mrshankly01  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:41:24am

re: #115 gmsc

Nope, if I don't leave before the boobies, I'll never leave.

120 mrshankly01  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:42:31am

And this iPhone is killing me

121 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:43:11am

re: #101 gmsc

DOMAInd if I do!
;)

single handedly taking the droll comment into the drool category... i guess it's too late to nip this in the bud.

122 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:46:57am

re: #119 mrshankly01

Nope, if I don't leave before the boobies, I'll never leave.

tit's too late: no matter where you go, there they are.

123 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:48:11am

re: #110 BatGuano

I've just skimmed this thread so I'm not sure what the dominant theme is. I'm hoping it is the boobie thread. :)

For the Megan Fox fans, a NSFW film trailer.

/boobage so quick you'll miss it if you blink..

124 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:48:48am

re: #101 gmsc

DOMAInd if I do!
;)

Holey Moley.

125 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:50:22am

re: #123 Slumbering Behemoth

For the Megan Fox fans, a NSFW film trailer.

/boobage so quick you'll miss it if you blink..

Luckily, I haven't blinked since I was 12.

126 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:51:31am

re: #125 BatGuano

Luckily, I haven't blinked since I was 12.

I haven't Blinked since I was 182.

/

127 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:52:30am

I can't believe I'm still awake.
/sigh

128 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:52:42am

re: #126 TheMatrix31

I haven't Blinked since I was 182.

/

we're just waiting on The Cure...

129 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:53:02am

re: #127 Gang of One

I can't believe I'm still awake.
/sigh

you need a bigger glass.

130 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:53:43am

re: #129 redc1c4

you need a bigger glass.

It's a 1.75L bottle ...

131 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:56:12am

A tie in to the last thread:

"S" is for Slayer.

/Slayer's "Dittohead"

132 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:01:11am

re: #131 Slumbering Behemoth

A tie in to the last thread:

"S" is for Slayer.

/Slayer's "Dittohead"

Tying the last thread to this one:

133 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:03:52am

re: #130 Gang of One

It's a 1.75L bottle ...

as i said, grasshopper.

/adb wisdom

134 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:07:53am
135 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:12:59am

What happened? Is everyone busy signing up for DOMAI?

Where is everybody?

136 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:14:37am

re: #135 gmsc

What happened? Is everyone busy signing up for DOMAI?

Where is everybody?

not me, i belong to the Blank Generation and i can take or leave it each time...

137 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:16:14am

re: #135 gmsc

What happened? Is everyone busy signing up for DOMAI?

Where is everybody?

Hi (zip) gmsc! I wasn't doing anything.

138 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:17:17am

re: #134 redc1c4

A group of young fellars that, clearly, do not give a fuck.
/

139 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:18:18am

re: #135 gmsc

Who? Me? I'm just savoring the taste of some sweet sweet yummy schadenfreude.

140 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:22:05am

Well, I'm trying to find classes to take because CA is a piece of shit and has no money to offer any more discussion sections for classes that are otherwise not even close to capacity.

141 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:23:53am

For the record, melatonin as a sleep-inducing agent does not work.

142 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:24:54am

I'm tapped out, and all I want is...

G'nite Lizards!

143 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:25:34am

re: #139 Fenway_Nation

Who? Me? I'm just savoring the taste of some sweet sweet yummy schadenfreude.

no comprende...

144 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:26:08am

re: #142 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm tapped out, and all I want is...

G'nite Lizards!

G'Nite, SB!

145 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:27:00am

re: #141 Gang of One

For the record, melatonin as a sleep-inducing agent does not work.

for the record: diphenhydramine is an OTC antihistamine that DOES cause drowsiness in most people.

/generic & cheap too

146 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:28:48am

re: #142 Slumbering Behemoth

Good night, Sb.

147 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:30:28am

schadenfreude: Deriving pleasure from others misfortune.

148 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:30:56am

re: #142 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm tapped out, and all I want is...

G'nite Lizards!

I don't care about you...

149 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:31:10am

re: #143 redc1c4

Some New York hack sportswriter making an online list of 'The Big Apple's Most hated Opponents'...and like 7 of the first 10 are all Red Sox players (although pitcher Curt Schilling makes the list twice).

I know enough not to expect much from the NY Daily News, but even after lowering my expectations I'm surprised at the suck-tastic depths of some of their lame attempts at sportswriting.

150 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:32:16am

re: #148 redc1c4

I don't care about you...

I'm afraid of Fear.

151 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:32:26am

re: #147 BatGuano

schadenfreude: Deriving pleasure from others misfortune.

yeah, but who GAF about nyc and whoever hates their teams?

i mean, doesn't everyone?

152 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:32:52am

re: #150 BatGuano

I'm afraid of Fear.

The only thing we have to fear is Fear itself.

154 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:34:07am

re: #151 redc1c4

Oh. yeah.

155 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:35:51am

re: #142 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm tapped out, and all I want is...

G'nite Lizards!

G'nite SB.

re: #145 redc1c4

for the record: diphenhydramine is an OTC antihistamine that DOES cause drowsiness in most people.

/generic & cheap too

Someone has told me that Tylenol PM works pretty well. I get antsy thinking I need pills or other things to remedy this problem. Been plaguing me for several years now.

156 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:36:18am

re: #150 BatGuano

I'm afraid of Fear.

have a beer with fear, and you'll get over it.

remember: they don't care about you, so why should you bother?

157 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:36:40am

re: #149 Fenway_Nation

Some New York hack sportswriter making an online list of 'The Big Apple's Most hated Opponents'...and like 7 of the first 10 are all Red Sox players (although pitcher Curt Schilling makes the list twice).

I know enough not to expect much from the NY Daily News, but even after lowering my expectations I'm surprised at the suck-tastic depths of some of their lame attempts at sportswriting.

Was it Mike Lupica?

158 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:37:21am

re: #151 redc1c4

That's not the point of this little photo essay I'm thumbing through. It's why fans of NY teams should hate Curt Schilling, Ted Williams, Chipper Jones, George Brett, Jonathan Papelbon, Jason Varitek, Jimmy Rollins, etc.

Part of me is hoping this is truly a reflection on the mindset of NY fans these days. I will gladly wear their contempt and disdain for my favorite teams on my sleeve like a badge of honor.

159 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:37:55am

re: #155 Gang of One

Someone has told me that Tylenol PM works pretty well. I get antsy thinking I need pills or other things to remedy this problem. Been plaguing me for several years now.

avoind the Tylenol, just for the acetaminophen, and go see a doc instead of listening to weirdos on the internet.

/self included

160 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:38:38am

re: #157 Cannadian Club Akbar

looks like it's Matt Marrone...

161 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:39:31am

re: #158 Fenway_Nation

That's not the point of this little photo essay I'm thumbing through. It's why fans of NY teams should hate Curt Schilling, Ted Williams, Chipper Jones, George Brett, Jonathan Papelbon, Jason Varitek, Jimmy Rollins, etc.

Part of me is hoping this is truly a reflection on the mindset of NY fans these days. I will gladly wear their contempt and disdain for my favorite teams on my sleeve like a badge of honor.

how many people in NYC are natives, and how many are tourists?

in LA natives are rarer than a down ding on a ID thread here on LGF.

162 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:40:20am

re: #156 redc1c4

Excellent point.

163 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:40:44am

re: #160 Fenway_Nation

looks like it's Matt Marrone...

Lupica blamed Steve McNairs death on the United States "gun culture." He is a douche. And while I am no Sox fan, when you guys play the Yanks, I am.

164 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:43:06am

re: #163 Cannadian Club Akbar

I just got through reading subjecting myself to that tripe.

Yea...too bad Tennesee didn't have those strict and oh-so-effective gun laws like they do in New York, Washington DC and Chicago...

165 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:44:35am

re: #161 redc1c4


Prior to 2004, Yankees fans would routinely make fun of our dead and dying relatives for sport...

166 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:44:40am

Fenway, I've been meaning to ask you. What's up with the web 2.0 stripes logo?

167 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:46:29am

In Florida, it used to be you had to basically be in your house and threatened before using a hand gun. If you were on the street, you had to try to get away. Now, if you are walking Fido and you are threatened with say a bat or knife, it's all good.

168 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:46:53am

re: #166 gmsc

That is actually the insignia for my old division- 3RD Infantry Division.

169 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:47:40am

re: #168 Fenway_Nation

That is actually the insignia for my old division- 3RD Infantry Division.

Then it's an excellent choice!

Think of your buddies proudly!

170 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:49:08am

re: #148 redc1c4

I don't care about you...

Fuck You!

One of my personal favorites. There are a many great intersections where punks and hessians collide. Like burning meth labs smashing into psychotic alligators; ugly and awesome.

Nite Red.

171 Gella  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:53:02am

good early morning lizards :)

172 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:53:56am

re: #171 Gella

Good early morning to you, too.

173 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:54:25am

I think I hear littleoldlady working in the kitchen.

174 Gella  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:54:58am

re: #172 Fenway_Nation

Good early morning to you, too.

i am just stepping by, on the way to airport, cab will be here in 10min :)
4 days of fun in the sun :)

175 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:55:24am

re: #166 gmsc

Fenway, I've been meaning to ask you. What's up with the web 2.0 stripes logo?

it's the infamous "Broken TV"... Audie Murphy had one.

176 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:55:50am

re: #171 Gella

good early morning lizards :)

Good morning, Gella. I Love the House reference: My kids think I'm House (long story).

177 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:56:16am

re: #168 Fenway_Nation

That is actually the insignia for my old division- 3RD Infantry Division.

Rock of the Marne!

178 Gella  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:56:28am

re: #176 BatGuano

Good morning, Gella. I Love the House reference: My kids think I'm House (long story).

LOL, i am addicted to that show :)

179 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:56:54am

re: #170 Slumbering Behemoth

Fuck You!

One of my personal favorites. There are a many great intersections where punks and hessians collide. Like burning meth labs smashing into psychotic alligators; ugly and awesome.

Nite Red.

as opposed to "Day Red"?

180 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:57:16am

Heh, from my Professor...

Try enrolling in PS125 now. We opened up 91 more places. Don't delay.

Only problem is that the registration site goes down for daily maintenence from 1am to 6am every day!

181 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:58:23am

re: #178 Gella

LOL, i am addicted to that show :)

As am I. House speaks to me. :)

182 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:59:00am

FRUITCUP!

183 Gella  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:59:29am

re: #181 BatGuano

As am I. House speaks to me. :)

i can't wait for new season to start
Hugh Laurie is amazing :)

184 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:59:41am

servers dropped 66 seconds, all at once?

185 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:00:01am

re: #182 redc1c4

FRUITCUP!

You're about 1 minute early.

186 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:00:12am

Fruitcup's a comin'!

187 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:00:24am

re: #182 redc1c4

Whoooaaa. It ain't official yet.

188 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:00:41am

re: #184 redc1c4

servers dropped 66 seconds, all at once?

No, your computer jumped ahead 66 seconds.

189 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:00:58am

Is littleoldlady OK?

Where is she?

190 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:01:05am

we love House at our house... you'd never want to see him for aches and pains, but if you had an acute attack of "the weird shit" he's the man.

191 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:01:11am

Uh-oh...looks like I'll have to resume my work on the Fruitcupitron 3000

192 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:01:29am

fruitcup, take 2

193 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:02:06am

re: #189 gmsc

Is littleoldlady OK?

Where is she?

We went through this a few months ago. Remember?

194 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:03:13am

we were running about 6 seconds diff between my box and the hamster's time stamp, and yet, with less than 20 seconds to go, i suddenly went a whole minute out of cycle...

go figger?

195 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:04:24am

re: #193 BatGuano

We went through this a few months ago. Remember?

she's been seen on Facebook, but i won't call her this early/late in the day...

196 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:06:47am

anyone want souvenirs from the feeding frenzy tomorrow?

197 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:09:24am

re: #196 redc1c4

One of the legos that they're goint to make once they melt him down?

/

198 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:09:42am

re: #196 redc1c4

anyone want souvenirs from the feeding frenzy tomorrow?

I saw a link, I think on Drudge, that Michael will be buried without his brain. If you could score that, that would be cool.

199 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:10:25am

re: #198 Cannadian Club Akbar

I saw a link, I think on Drudge, that Michael will be buried without his brain. If you could score that, that would be cool.

Must . . . resist . . . too . . . many . . . jokes . . .

200 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:14:13am

re: #198 Cannadian Club Akbar

I saw a link, I think on Drudge, that Michael will be buried without his brain. If you could score that, that would be cool.

the ultimate zombie weapon, if you could clone it:

they eat the brain, yet they die.

201 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:15:11am

the ultimate: attend the MJ fiasco wearing a Farrrah Fawcett T-shirt.

202 freetoken  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:15:35am

re: #140 TheMatrix31

Well, I'm trying to find classes to take because CA is a piece of shit and has no money to offer any more discussion sections for classes that are otherwise not even close to capacity.

CA has no money to pay back the citizens (to whom they will issue IOU's) for overpayment of taxes, much less to spend on some people who want to sit around and "discuss" what some over-endowed-retirement-program professor has said.

203 gmsc  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:15:42am

Well, I'd better get some sleep.

Good night, all!

204 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:15:43am

Preternaturally addictive:

205 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:16:26am

re: #203 gmsc

Good night, gmsc!

206 freetoken  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:16:47am

BTW, I haven't overpaid my CA income taxes in many years. Better to pay $20 penalty then to wait interminably for a $500 IOU.

207 redc1c4  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:17:33am

i'm unassing the AO...

/white smoke!

208 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:19:29am

re: #202 freetoken

CA has no money to pay back the citizens (to whom they will issue IOU's) for overpayment of taxes, much less to spend on some people who want to sit around and "discuss" what some over-endowed-retirement-program professor has said.

Yeah well, they've screwed the academic course of many students in the meantime, because these are classes people need to graduate.

They opened some spots seemingly though, let's just hope that it's still open when my registration time comes around tomorrow, since the site is down from 1 to 6am.

209 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:20:48am

re: #207 redc1c4

i'm unassing the AO...

/white smoke!

Crap! I gave you your 6,000th Karma point. Not that it wasn't deserved. :)

210 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:23:41am

Whoopsie!

Fruitcup --->

WOW. Servers dropped 23 minutes! ;-)

211 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:24:49am

re: #210 littleoldlady

Whoopsie!

Fruitcup --->

WOW. Servers dropped 23 minutes! ;-)

Maybe we should appoint a fruitcup czar!

212 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:25:01am

Did they ever figure out who is gonna pay for all the police OT in LA for the Michael extravaganza?

213 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:25:39am

re: #210 littleoldlady

Whoopsie!

Fruitcup --->

WOW. Servers dropped 23 minutes! ;-)

Thank you littleoldlady (breathing a sigh of relief)!

214 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:25:59am

re: #211 TheMatrix31

Matrix! :-)

We already have several...Sharmuta...red...Fenway.

215 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:26:10am

BatGuano! :-)

216 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:26:33am

re: #212 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did they ever figure out who is gonna pay for all the police OT in LA for the Michael extravaganza?

Taxpayers. Who else!

217 littleoldlady  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:27:37am

I'm going back to sleep...

Good day, ALL!™

218 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:28:38am

re: #217 littleoldlady

I'm going back to sleep...

Good day, ALL!™

Not so fast, lol,

219 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:40:05am

Anyone hate to get up in the morning?

220 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:40:21am

re: #217 littleoldlady


Seems like you just got here.

221 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:59:27am

Morning Lizards.

222 SixDegrees  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:59:30am

re: #194 redc1c4

we were running about 6 seconds diff between my box and the hamster's time stamp, and yet, with less than 20 seconds to go, i suddenly went a whole minute out of cycle...

go figger?

If you're suffering from lost time, you could be a victim of alien abduction.

223 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:00:06am

From Russia with love to Obama: Pwned sucker - Obama Welcomed With a Photo Album

U.S. President Barack Obama may not want to remember his first visit to Russia in 2005, when an airport dispute grounded his plane for three hours. But President Dmitry Medvedev gave him a memento of that visit anyway Monday.

Medvedev presented Obama with a photo album of his 2005 visit as he welcomed him to the Kremlin on Monday afternoon. State television showed Medvedev flipping through the pages as Obama looked at the photographs with a broad smile.

Farm...farm? Oh yea.. I kinda remember, we once did own a farm...until some damned fool gave it away.

Morning folks.

224 freetoken  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:00:12am

re: #208 TheMatrix31

Yeah well, they've screwed the academic course of many students in the meantime, because these are classes people need to graduate.

Please accept the idea that other peoples' actions have consequences for those beyond themselves, such as you are now discovering.

The current economic downturn is turning out to be more severe than either the double dip of 1980-81, or the early 70's recession/oil embargo tango event.

My life was changed by both time periods, where doors were closed to opportunities that if otherwise taken may have led to a quite different life.

You now are experiencing some doors closing on you, or at least the threat of such. If some doors close, usually a few remain open, and it is through those you will walk.

225 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:01:39am

re: #221 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Good morning, rightside. How was your Fourth?

226 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:02:36am

re: #225 BatGuano

hi BG, it was ok. How about yours?

227 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:04:13am

re: #226 rightside

hi BG, it was ok. How about yours?

I had to work, but it was fine. It's always a good day!

228 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:05:34am

re: #227 BatGuano

That's true, it's the reason for the season, lol.

229 BatGuano  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:15:51am

Good night, lizards. If you haven't done so already check out #219.

230 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:17:34am

re: #222 SixDegrees

You're like E.T., except E.T. was a purebred alien with a heart of gold. You're only half-alien and at times can be a tad self-absorbed.

Dale Gribble- King of The Hill

231 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:19:19am

re: #222 SixDegrees

If you're suffering from lost time, you could be a victim of alien abduction.

Call George Norrie at Coast to Coast. He'll let you know what happened.

232 SixDegrees  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:26:00am

re: #231 Cannadian Club Akbar

Call George Norrie at Coast to Coast. He'll let you know what happened.

Is he anything like Space Ghost Coast to Coast?

233 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:29:23am

Well...time for this lizard on this coast to head in...

stay scaley!

234 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:42:22am

re: #224 freetoken

Please accept the idea that other peoples' actions have consequences for those beyond themselves, such as you are now discovering.

The current economic downturn is turning out to be more severe than either the double dip of 1980-81, or the early 70's recession/oil embargo tango event.

My life was changed by both time periods, where doors were closed to opportunities that if otherwise taken may have led to a quite different life.

You now are experiencing some doors closing on you, or at least the threat of such. If some doors close, usually a few remain open, and it is through those you will walk.

I like that advice a lot...thanks!

235 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:45:23am

Ousted President Manuel Zelaya to smuggle himself across Honduran border

AMF!

Mugabe refuses to talk to US ‘idiot’ - US officials unsure which one.

ZIMBABWE’S state media reported yesterday that Robert Mugabe described the US assistant secretary of state for Africa as “an idiot” after their acrimonious meeting at the African Unit summit meeting in Libya.

According to the Herald newspaper, Mugabe said nothing came of the talks.

“You wouldn’t speak to an idiot of that nature. Who is he?

“I hope he is not speaking for Barack Obama. I told him he was a shame, a great shame being an African-American,” Mugabe was quoted as saying about Johnnie Carson.{eoa}

It's going to be hard to beat what Mugabe has done with his countries economics & currency but Barack's going to give it his best.

236 freetoken  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:46:43am

re: #234 TheMatrix31

No problem.

If you want a bit more historical perspective, a few days ago the WSJ put in one of its articles a matrix of months/years colored with unemployment rates:

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

(you can hover over the boxes to get actual numbers)

For those of us entering the work force in the early 70's and 80's, you can see that those were tough days, much more so than our parents dealt with immediately after WWII.

Conventionally, unemployment peaks after the deepest part of an economic recession. This is not going to be a quick and easy recovery.

237 freetoken  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:47:52am

re: #236 freetoken

PS Click on the "interactive graphics" tab.

238 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:51:35am

I just hope I can get into the class I need to get into, because it would literally derail my whole schedule otherwise.

239 freetoken  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:05:48am

re: #238 TheMatrix31

At this point... in Japan they would say "がんばって" . "Ganbatte" means "persevere", and is given often with a mix of empathy and exhortation.

240 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:11:05am

God morning.


Look for the market to open mixed as the market awaits 2nd Q financial reports.


U.S. stock futures hew to tight range

U.S. stock futures clung to a tight range on Tuesday, with debate about second-quarter earnings, the need for a second federal stimulus package and oil-price direction keeping movement to a minimum.

Yes, you read that right. They are now taking about spending even more money we don't have on pork and political goodies.


Also in the spotlight will be the prospects for a second stimulus package. Laura D'Andrea Tyson, an adviser to President Obama, reportedly told a conference in Singapore that a second round of economic stimulus should be prepared that would be smaller and focused on infrastructure.

For those not used to washington political-speak, basically they are admitting that the 1st stimulus bill was a failure. This is not me saying it, Biden said it and now Tyson is saying it.

So note to the resident Obama worshippers and flaks: Obama's own people are now telling you that the first bill was a failure. However, as typical socialists, their solution to fix the failure is to do even more of what failed.

There is a great opportunity here for someone to step forward and take a principled stand for cutting spending, taxes and encouraging economic growth.

241 freetoken  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:13:21am

re: #240 3 wood


So note to the resident Obama worshippers and flaks...

We have some?

242 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:20:24am

Here is a great example of how the media sells out to the Democrats:


City plumbing inspector busts himself


James Kendrick is a city plumbing inspector assigned to a task force that busts people for doing work without permits.

On Sunday, Kendrick could have busted himself.
Sources said the $85,068-a-year inspector was working a side job installing a flood-control system in the 3500 block of North Octavia -- with no permit and none of the required city licenses -- when he inadvertently broke the water pipe leading to the home.

Kendrick dialed 311 to report the break. When investigators arrived on the scene, he identified himself as a city inspector and asked them for city-owned parts -- lead packs and copper -- to repair the broken pipe, sources said.

Little did he know that one of the responding investigators was Pat McDonough, who helped blow the whistle on the Hired Truck scandal.

"He told me he works for the city and knows people [in high places]. He wanted me to give him all the plumbing parts," McDonough said Monday.

"In the old days, if you wanted a guy to come out and bring you parts for a side job, you'd call the leak desk even if there was no leak. They'd come with the parts and you'd give the guy 30 to 50 bucks to keep his mouth shut. This time, there actually was a leak. But when he said, 'I need some lead packs and copper,' I called the desk and told them to call the police."


Nowhere in this article will the reporter mention that all this is happening under the leadership of Democrat Mayor Daley. Not a single mention.

anybody think that if the Mayor was a Republican, the paper would not have mentioned that up front in the first line?

Me neither.

This is a good example of what happens when the media becomes owned by one political party.

243 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:20:46am

re: #241 freetoken

Your kidding me, right?

244 freetoken  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:24:35am

re: #243 3 wood

Your kidding me, right?

Um, no.

LGF doesn't seem to be the place for Obama "flaks" [sic]. Indeed, flacks of any kind often run into trouble here, eventually.

245 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:31:14am

re: #243 3 wood

Hey, 3 Wood. Hate to be bothersome, but can you reccomend a good book that gives a general overview of economics? I have Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell. Any picks?

246 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:32:19am

re: #240 3 wood

For those not used to washington political-speak, basically they are admitting that the 1st stimulus bill was a failure. This is not me saying it, Biden said it and now Tyson is saying it.

So note to the resident Obama worshippers and flaks: Obama's own people are now telling you that the first bill was a failure. However, as typical socialists, their solution to fix the failure is to do even more of what failed.

Mind if I use that on my Facebook, 3W?

247 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:33:28am

re: #244 freetoken

Try Avanti and iceweasle for two. Others show up from time to time.

248 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:35:15am

re: #245 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hey, 3 Wood. Hate to be bothersome, but can you reccomend a good book that gives a general overview of economics? I have Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell. Any picks?

Milton Friedman There's no Free Lunch.

Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations (the actual title is much longer)

249 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:35:44am

re: #246 TheMatrix31

Be my guest.

Have to get ready for work. Later.

250 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:36:16am

Have a good one, man!

251 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:36:59am

re: #248 3 wood

Milton Friedman There's no Free Lunch.

Adam Smith, Wealth of Nations (the actual title is much longer)

Thank you.

252 freetoken  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:52:16am

re: #247 3 wood

Try Avanti and iceweasle for two.

Are they flacks just because they don't agree with you (or many people here at LGF?)

Personally, I don't see anybody who is willing to engage in conversation and discuss various outlooks on issues as "flacks". A flack is a publicity agent, not just someone who may share (with the target/subject) the same opinion on various issues.

253 Joo-LiZ  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:56:29am

Major BNP Terror Plot in Britain has been exposed:

Plot to bomb mosques in Britain unearthed, 32 arrested

* UK police seize extremist literature, weapons in raids
* British Muslim parliamentarian praises police for timely action

Daily Times Monitor

LAHORE: British police have foiled a plan to attack mosques in different parts of Britain and arrested 32 Caucasian men in raids in London, a private TV channel reported.

According to the channel, the men in custody had accumulated rocket-launchers, hand grenades and explosives for the attacks. The channel quoted its sources as saying that London police raided 20 different places and investigated various people, arresting 32. Membership cards of the radical British National Party (BNP) and hate literature were also seized in the raids.

(I don't know the Daily Times -- seems to be an Indian source, but I found it via the Long War Journal, which is a source I do trust).

254 Flyers1974  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:59:52am

re: #252 freetoken

Are they flacks just because they don't agree with you (or many people here at LGF?)

Personally, I don't see anybody who is willing to engage in conversation and discuss various outlooks on issues as "flacks". A flack is a publicity agent, not just someone who may share (with the target/subject) the same opinion on various issues.

I appreciate your sentiment. Although I'm pretty liberal, I never posted on those blogs because everyone pretty much has the same opinion. Personally, I would find "debating" where everyone agrees kind of boring. Even in real life discussions, I think it is often more fun to discuss politics with the other side. I may be odd in that regard though.

255 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:01:53am

re: #249 3 wood

Thanks for your daily views as usual. I look forward to reading them.

Now, go out there and work hard to pay someone else's mortgage!

256 bloodnok  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:02:30am

re: #247 3 wood

Try Avanti and iceweasle for two. Others show up from time to time.

Bullshit. Iceweasel for one spends time criticizing Obama and the left when they deserve it. While I had my doubts about Avanti in the past I can admit I was wrong. These folks keep us honest and are not the blind worshippers we'd like to make them out to be.

257 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:07:43am

re: #256 bloodnok

I disagree about avanti. Keeping us honest is fine, but when fact after fact is pointed out to him about how o and his policies are ruining the economy, he points to polls and other nonsense, and merely shrugs them off.

I am not saying he's bad for doing that, but no matter what truth he is told, he basically ignores it, and blindly sticks with the o.

258 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:08:17am

re: #256 bloodnok

Well I wouldn't call Avanti a blind worshipper, but sometimes it sounds like he has sipped from the Kool-Aid.

Good morning all.

259 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:08:37am

re: #258 BlueCanuck

morning BC. How's the trash strike?

260 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:09:42am
261 NonNativeTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:10:12am

Our thoughts go out to our British friends on this
7/7 anniversary. They unveiled a memorial today.
[Link: news.sky.com...]
Side note: Verifies that not much meaningful is accomplished
by consensus, without leadership , we cannot even
honor the victims of 9/11 with a memorial some 8 years later.

262 Flyers1974  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:11:29am

Be back soon.

263 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:13:40am

re: #259 rightside

morning BC. How's the trash strike?

Morning rightside. The good news is that I am single and don't accumulate much trash. The bad news is that the recycling is starting to stack up, and our recycle bin was due out the week the strike started. Needless to say I am not very sympathetic with the unions.

264 Bloodnok  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:13:49am

re: #257 rightside

I disagree about avanti. Keeping us honest is fine, but when fact after fact is pointed out to him about how o and his policies are ruining the economy, he points to polls and other nonsense, and merely shrugs them off.

I am not saying he's bad for doing that, but no matter what truth he is told, he basically ignores it, and blindly sticks with the o.

Some people take in facts and still see things a different way. If we showed up on some liberal blogs they would say the same about us. We should be relishing the opportunity for interesting conversation with these folks, not insulting them and dismissing them (not saying you or even most Lizards have done this). It's just difference of opinion.

265 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:15:08am

re: #264 Bloodnok

I agree with that, and admit when I am wrong about things. I have yet to see (it may have happened, I just have not seen it) avanti ever say, maybe I was wrong about the o.

266 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:15:27am
267 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:17:54am
268 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:17:57am

re: #263 BlueCanuck

Any movement on Hamilton getting the Phoenix Coyotes?

269 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:18:43am

re: #263 BlueCanuck

Stay upwind, LOL

270 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:20:12am

re: #267 taxfreekiller

They are saying Peter King (R-NY) might be gearing up for a 2010 Senate run.

271 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:21:28am

re: #249 3 wood

What do you think about the sale of the Cubs to the Ricketts family?

272 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:23:12am

re: #270 Cannadian Club Akbar

They are saying Peter King (R-NY) might be gearing up for a 2010 Senate run.

Sure, that R next to his name will be a guaranteed loss.

273 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:23:36am

re: #245 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hey, 3 Wood. Hate to be bothersome, but can you reccomend a good book that gives a general overview of economics? I have Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell. Any picks?

I'm not 3wood, but you need to be more specific.

Do you mean economics as will inevitably assert itself, that is to say, what economic actions and policies will, after every other possible scenario is tried, prove to be the policy that will allow a stable, sustainable course?

Or do you mean what is currently being tried?

If the latter, you will be hard pressed to beat Das Kapital.

You should read Das Kapital in any event.

274 Mithrax  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:23:45am

re: #263 BlueCanuck

Morning rightside. The good news is that I am single and don't accumulate much trash. The bad news is that the recycling is starting to stack up, and our recycle bin was due out the week the strike started. Needless to say I am not very sympathetic with the unions.

For a fee I'll come down and bring it to a Durham region depo :)

Say...one milllion dollars? :)

275 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:26:58am

re: #264 Bloodnok

Some people take in facts and still see things a different way. If we showed up on some liberal blogs they would say the same about us. We should be relishing the opportunity for interesting conversation with these folks, not insulting them and dismissing them (not saying you or even most Lizards have done this). It's just difference of opinion.

I agree. Perhaps it's because I live somewhere surrounded by liberals, but I enjoy talking to them. I like hearing other points of view and thinking through why they're wrong, or why they have some merit or getting them to agree with me. I don't agree with avanti often, I've even been quite rude to him in the past, but I admire his resolve in sticking around anyways. That takes strength, and I can respect that. I'm sure he'll give me plenty of opportunities to tell him he's wrong. ;)

276 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:26:58am

re: #272 soxfan4life

Sure, that R next to his name will be a guaranteed loss.

IMHO, if he puts effort into the rest of the state, he has a chance. NYC is WAY liberal, but if he can get some votes, and who knows what things will look like in 18 months...

277 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:27:41am

re: #264 Bloodnok

Some people take in facts and still see things a different way. If we showed up on some liberal blogs they would say the same about us. We should be relishing the opportunity for interesting conversation with these folks, not insulting them and dismissing them (not saying you or even most Lizards have done this). It's just difference of opinion.

You are entitled to your own opinion.

Facts, however, are universal. Your opinion of a fact does not change the matter. The fact remains.

Separating a fact from an opinion is (and here is where my opinion comes in) the mark of an intelligent person.

278 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:28:44am

Michael Ramirez's latest IBD cartoon.

279 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:30:44am

Good morning everyone. Is today going to be called Michael Jackson Day? I hope not.

280 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:31:23am

re: #273 razorbacker

I'm not 3wood, but you need to be more specific.

Do you mean economics as will inevitably assert itself, that is to say, what economic actions and policies will, after every other possible scenario is tried, prove to be the policy that will allow a stable, sustainable course?

Or do you mean what is currently being tried?

If the latter, you will be hard pressed to beat Das Kapital.

You should read Das Kapital in any event.

3 Wood gave me 2 books. Wrote your reccomendation down. I have done some reading. But you can never read to much.

281 TheMatrix31  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:31:26am

re: #279 Mad Al-Jaffee

Good morning everyone. Is today going to be called Michael Jackson Day? I hope not.

Today should be used to remember the victims of the 7/7/05 London bombings.

282 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:31:57am

re: #276 Cannadian Club Akbar

IMHO, if he puts effort into the rest of the state, he has a chance. NYC is WAY liberal, but if he can get some votes, and who knows what things will look like in 18 months...

From a state that elects Chuck Schumer and Hillary Clinton who lived there for about 1 week prior to the election I don't know how a Republican stands a chance in a statewide race.

283 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:33:49am

re: #248 3 wood

I learned a lot (and was very entertained by) PJ O'Rourke's Eat the Rich.

284 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:35:26am

re: #270 Cannadian Club Akbar

They are saying Peter King (R-NY) might be gearing up for a 2010 Senate run.

Calling out Michael Jackson this week. Said, "This guy was a pervert, a child molestor, he was a pedophile..."

I'm thinking... not a chance.

285 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:37:22am

re: #268 Cannadian Club Akbar

Nope, haven't heard. But then again I don't follow sports.

re: #269 rightside

I hate these types of strikes, I end up doing more "dishes" as I have to clean recyclable material. Week three now, and it looks like it's going to be along one. Bunch of stupidity going on from the union and the city now.

286 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:39:05am

Anybody attending Michael's memorial service today. I hear Jermaine may be performing.

Jermaine is a performer?

287 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:39:18am

re: #284 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Calling out Michael Jackson this week. Said, "This guy was a pervert, a child molestor, he was a pedophile..."

I'm thinking... not a chance.

Hmmm ... Sheila Jackson Lee* left those qualities out of the resolution she submitted in his honor.

/* another gift from the State of Texas; I am truly sorry

288 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:42:17am

re: #280 Cannadian Club Akbar

Friedman's book may have actually been called "Free to Chooose" it's been a while since I read it.

I would actually also read Das Kapital too, so you understand the mindset of the communist.

289 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:42:28am

re: #283 Mad Al-Jaffee

I learned a lot (and was very entertained by) PJ O'Rourke's Eat the Rich.

I don't recall ever reading a PJ O'Rourke book that did not entertain. I heard (on TV) Mr. O'Rourke touting his latest book. He is also entertaining as a speaker.

One of his more profound thoughts was that in our society you can tell who is going to win the debate by looking for the side that has the hot women.

I guess it is because of their sterling characters, or something.

290 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:44:15am

re: #286 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody attending Michael's memorial service today. I hear Jermaine may be performing.

Jermaine is a performer?

He was part of the Jackson 5ive. And a grammy nominee as well.


[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:45:38am

re: #290 soxfan4life

(I was being silly, silly).

292 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:46:25am

re: #271 soxfan4life

What do you think about the sale of the Cubs to the Ricketts family?

All depends on if they are willing to actually build a functioning minor league feeder system and so they can become a winner. To date, no cubs ownership has been willing to do that.

For all the image of the Yankees buying Championships off the free agent market (and they have signed a lot of players there) their winning over the years has been based more on the production from their minor league systems than anything else.

So, it boils down to will any new team owner put in the investment in developing talent at the minor league level.

I also think that they will have to replace Wrigley Field soon. The place is falling apart.

293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:47:43am

re: #290 soxfan4life

He was part of the Jackson 5ive. And a grammy nominee as well.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

He had a duet with Pia Zadora?

She's a performer?

294 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:48:52am

re: #293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He had a duet with Pia Zadora?

She's a performer?

Ah the 80's. Lots of strange and sometimes wonderful pairings of music.

295 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:50:20am

re: #292 3 wood

All depends on if they are willing to actually build a functioning minor league feeder system and so they can become a winner. To date, no cubs ownership has been willing to do that.

For all the image of the Yankees buying Championships off the free agent market (and they have signed a lot of players there) their winning over the years has been based more on the production from their minor league systems than anything else.

So, it boils down to will any new team owner put in the investment in developing talent at the minor league level.

I also think that they will have to replace Wrigley Field soon. The place is falling apart.

That seems to be the formula for success John Henry and the Sox ownership followed with the exception of replacing Fenway. The Sox have a deep pool of talent in the minors with the emphasis on pitching. 900 million seems like steep price to pay to have to further invest in the minor league system and also the ball park. Maybe the Ricketts will renovate Wrigley like they have with Fenway. Only no Monster seats, they are overpriced and not very good seats to see all of the action.

296 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:50:39am

re: #293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He had a duet with Pia Zadora?

She's a performer?

I think she won an Oscar as well.

297 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:51:05am

re: #257 rightside

I disagree about avanti. Keeping us honest is fine, but when fact after fact is pointed out to him about how o and his policies are ruining the economy, he points to polls and other nonsense, and merely shrugs them off.

I am not saying he's bad for doing that, but no matter what truth he is told, he basically ignores it, and blindly sticks with the o.

I don't have a problem with that either.

What I do have a problem with is someone using false data to try to spin, which is what I caught Avanti doing some weeks ago about the market and called him on it.

To Avanti's credit, while he did not admit it, he has at least stopped misrepresenting market performance since Obama was sworn in.

And we have had some nice discussion since then.

298 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:52:16am

re: #293 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He had a duet with Pia Zadora?

She's a performer?

Ugh! Uncle!

299 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:52:22am

re: #295 soxfan4life

900 million seems like steep price to pay to have to further invest in the minor league system and also the ball park.

There are also some huge contracts to eat. They are going to be paying Soriano and Zambrano for many years to dome, Soriano till at least 2014.

300 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:54:08am

avanti is polite, and doesn't have BDS.

301 Sharmuta  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:55:03am

And I think that's my quota of nice things to say about a democrat for one day.

302 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:55:43am

re: #299 3 wood

There are also some huge contracts to eat. They are going to be paying Soriano and Zambrano for many years to dome, Soriano till at least 2014.


What kind of TV contract do they have? The YES network is one of the big moneymakers for the Yankees, and the RedSox have NESN the New England Sports Network who also cover the Bruins.

303 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:56:25am

I am going to share with you all a historical 'home truth'. It is an unpleasant truth, and I don't blame anyone for looking away. The facts are sometimes not pretty.

But for all of human existance the vast seething majority of the population had nothing that we would recognize as 'leisure time'. Nor 'retirement'. Some small percentage, and it was a very small percentage, did. The majority did not.

You were born, as soon as you were physically able you went to work hunting, gathering, farming, fishing, or some such and you did that until you were physically unable to do so any more. Then you died.

I sit under a water-tight roof, with a machine cooling the air that hits my skin. I am sipping a hot cup of coffee made from beans grown I know not where. A rectangular box in front of me is showing images of a riot that happened yesterday on the other side of the world. In a few moments I will open the doors to my closet and take a set of clothes from among dozens of garments. I can twist a knob and am greeted with a rush of clean, potable water. A box with cold air preserves foodstuffs accumulated from around the world, all at my whim.

In other words I, a poor ignorant Arkie ridge-runner, live a better life than the richest person in the world did just two hundred years ago.

This is the first time in history that that is so.

304 FrogMarch  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:58:34am

Good morning everyone.

Bend over and grab your ankles - the Obama administration wants to give you more Stimulus.

The first one was "a bit too small".

305 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:59:53am

re: #301 Sharmuta

And I think that's my quota of nice things to say about a democrat for one day.

very generous this morning :)

306 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:00:10am

Speaking of market performance, FYI when the new President was sworn in, the Dow was at 8281, this morning is at 8325 and increase if 0.5%.

The S&P 500 was at 850, this morning is at 899, an increase of 5.7%

10 year bonds were at 2.8% (it bounced around a bit) and now are at 3.5%. an increase in rates of 25%.

307 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:00:13am

re: #303 razorbacker

It's OK. We have people in DC who are determined that all the advances made possible by the freedom realized in this country will be undone. We will disassemble all the results of the sacrifices and successes of this generation and previous in service to an idol built of electrons.

Sam Kinison was a prophet. Obscene and bizarre perhaps, but a prophet nonetheless.

308 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:01:07am

re: #304 FrogMarch

Good morning everyone.

Bend over and grab your ankles - the Obama administration wants to give you more Stimulus.

The first one was "a bit too small".

Maybe they're not liking the poll numbers their experts are giving them for the 2010 elections. Must hurrily pass another stimulus bill without reading it, or unemployment might hit 9%.

309 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:01:08am

Pia Zadora?

Lord, I feel so young all of a sudden.

/

310 reloadingisnotahobby  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:01:56am

re: #303 razorbacker
Well said!Razor...
Sat and watched a good movie last night ...
"The Ultimate gift" With James Garner
A spoiled rich "Asshole" has to earn his Grandfathers inheritance.
Good one for those who have teens that think "You" own a money tree!
Lot of good teaching in it for kids and parents!

311 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:02:15am

re: #303 razorbacker

Wait until O wrecks the economy, then you'll be out hunting for food again.
/
Morning all, hey I had to pop in here and get something off my chest before I go read the news. Last night I was flicking channels and Olbermann was interviewing that Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore who started the rumor about the FBI investigating Sarah. What a snarky little liberal beotch that one is, she said Palin "aborted her term" as Governor. Jeeze even Keith cringed at that one.

312 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:02:25am

a little more explanation regarding cap and trade...I keep looking for layman type stuff...
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

313 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:02:36am

re: #309 OldLineTexan

She was in the cinema classic Santa Claus Conquers the Martians.

314 mamacares  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:06:15am

re: #221 rightside

Good morning Lizards.

315 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:06:20am

re: #302 soxfan4life

What kind of TV contract do they have? The YES network is one of the big moneymakers for the Yankees, and the RedSox have NESN the New England Sports Network who also cover the Bruins.

With WGN they have a very strong contract, which is what I think most of the cash flows have been projected upon.

The problem in professional sports is this, as costs and ticket prices escalate, the demand for higher quality (i.e., a winner) by the fan base grows. Eventually, if you frustrate your fan base long enough they give up on you and go on to other options for their entertainment dollar. The Chicago Bears found that out the hard way in the 90's. They thought they culd live off the 85 championship forever and put nothing into the team. After the Dave Wannestadt disaster, they had a fan base revolt and had to upgrade their team.

The Cubs, I think, are nearing that if they do not win a Championship in the next several years. If the White Sox can win one, so can they.

316 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:07:26am

re: #311 turn

Wait until O wrecks the economy, then you'll be out hunting for food again.
/
Morning all, hey I had to pop in here and get something off my chest before I go read the news. Last night I was flicking channels and Olbermann was interviewing that Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore who started the rumor about the FBI investigating Sarah. What a snarky little liberal beotch that one is, she said Palin "aborted her term" as Governor. Jeeze even Keith cringed at that one.

I look forward to Palin's lawyer going after every one of these POS that felt it necessary to spout nonstop B/S about the Palin family.

317 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:08:58am

re: #307 OldLineTexan

Perhaps. I am not quite so gloomy.

During WWI, aka The War to End All Wars, there was a popular song that asked, 'How are you going to keep them down on the farm once they've seen gay Pariee?'

What they meant was, once people have seen a better life, they are reluctant to revert to the poorer life.

We shall see if the past century has changed human nature.

For all the chattering classes' talk of funemployment and of the joys of doing with less I believe that once the true toll of current policies becomes clear there will be a backlash that will be scary.

We'll probably swing too far in the opposite direction.

Rinse and repeat.

318 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:09:43am

re: #315 3 wood

With WGN they have a very strong contract, which is what I think most of the cash flows have been projected upon.

The problem in professional sports is this, as costs and ticket prices escalate, the demand for higher quality (i.e., a winner) by the fan base grows. Eventually, if you frustrate your fan base long enough they give up on you and go on to other options for their entertainment dollar. The Chicago Bears found that out the hard way in the 90's. They thought they culd live off the 85 championship forever and put nothing into the team. After the Dave Wannestadt disaster, they had a fan base revolt and had to upgrade their team.

The Cubs, I think, are nearing that if they do not win a Championship in the next several years. If the White Sox can win one, so can they.

The Cubs have a fan base much like the Red Sox and not winning a championship doesn't distract the loyal base.

319 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:10:04am

the regal Greenbrier has figured out a way to make money again

[Link: www.register-herald.com...]

320 FrogMarch  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:10:11am

re: #308 soxfan4life

Maybe they're not liking the poll numbers their experts are giving them for the 2010 elections. Must hurrily pass another stimulus bill without reading it, or unemployment might hit 9%.

The dems really do want to re-create Socialist Europe. What's the unemployment in France and Spain? Double digits last time I checked. Come on Dems- you can do it!

321 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:11:11am

re: #320 FrogMarch

The dems really do want to re-create Socialist Europe. What's the unemployment in France and Spain? Double digits last time I checked. Come on Dems- you can do it!

They want to do it bigger and better than socialist Europe.

322 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:11:17am

re: #317 razorbacker

Loved both of those posts.

Poor in America? Rich in 60% of the world. (prolly more, but, I'm lazy).

Have to go to the beach. Ugh.

Y'all have a great day!

323 Mithrax  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:12:06am

re: #322 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Loved both of those posts.

Poor in America? Rich in 60% of the world. (prolly more, but, I'm lazy).

Have to go to the beach. Ugh.

Y'all have a great day!

Wear your mankini! it's always good for grabbing attention!

324 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:12:27am

re: #317 razorbacker

They are aiming at the basis of the American economy ... energy.

It's not good.

325 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:12:30am

re: #310 reloadingisnotahobby

I have become my grandfather.

I don't know when it happened, or how, but here I am.

I still feel like that fellow who embraced drugs, sex, and rock and roll but grandpa has taken up residence in my mirror.

I'm going to quit shaving.

That oughta do it.

326 FrogMarch  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:13:21am

Bill Whittle: According to incompetent financially inept democrat in CA (Karen Bass (D)?) "we the people" are all terrorists for speaking out against further rape/taxation/theft by her holy (D) government. (So according to the Democrat, free speech against the unwise plans of Democrats = terrorism)

(ooo - he's pissed. I like!)

327 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:14:47am

re: #316 soxfan4life

I look forward to Palin's lawyer going after every one of these POS that felt it necessary to spout nonstop B/S about the Palin family.

Morning sox, me too. I watched that interview Palin had with Andrea Mitchell this morning before leaving for work. It really changed my perspective about what Palin is up to. She was concerned about not being able to be effective as Governor and she was genuinely concerned about the all those frivolous law suits were costing the state monetarily as well. Of course you got every liberal on TV moaning about how this resignation just shows she is not prepared to lead, you know she's a quitter and all. So friggin predictable, they are so frightened about the possibility of her running in 2012 that they are already trying to smear her over the resignation rather than take her by her word. I still think there is a possibility she will run however unorthodox it may seem.

328 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:14:50am

re: #308 soxfan4life

Maybe they're not liking the poll numbers their experts are giving them for the 2010 elections. Must hurrily pass another stimulus bill without reading it, or unemployment might hit 9%.

The underlying assumption in Keynesian economics, which is what this administration is following, is that everything boils down to income and spending. They think they can shift outwards the "aggregate demand curve" with government spending and minimum wage laws, rather than encourage private income generation via business growth.

That of course begs the question, where does the money come from to do all that spending? The general solution is to borrow, which in a broad sense is a transfer of wealth from one generation (the future ones which will have to pay for this long term debt) to another (the current generation which will enjoy the benefits of the spending for a while).

I think California is a good example of what happens when this philosophy holds sway.

329 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:16:16am

Well here we go, 0bama says his children are off limits but he puts them out in the spotlight marketing clothes for J. Crew, I wonder what the hate spewers from MSNBC would be saying if it were Bristol or Piper Palin instead of Sasha and Malia. Nice touch in the press release including the price of each item.


[Link: www.politico.com...]

330 Bloodnok  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:16:43am

+1 for the Spike Milligan quote, Charles. As a Goon Show fan I think Spike was a genius.

331 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:16:44am

Totten interviews Goldberg...nobody seems too optimistic

[Link: www.michaeltotten.com...]

332 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:17:21am

re: #321 soxfan4life

They want to do it bigger and better than socialist Europe.

It's interesting, the Dems are pushing toward a "soft socialism" and we have seen evidence that the conservative movement is being infiltrated by "neo-Nazi's" aka The Tea Parties.

And we see this around the world. You have the multicultural accolades hitching up with Radical Islam (socialism/communism) and the white nationalist gearing up for a new campaign (Nazi).

Interesting times.

333 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:18:04am

re: #326 FrogMarch

Bill Whittle: According to incompetent financially inept democrat in CA (Karen Bass (D)?) "we the people" are all terrorists for speaking out against further rape/taxation/theft by her holy (D) government. (So according to the Democrat, free speech against the unwise plans of Democrats = terrorism)

(ooo - he's pissed. I like!)

I heard (on right-wing reactionary talk radio*)that LA is spending 2 MILLION dollars on Michael Jackson's memorial service.

Heh.

/* ie, not Pacifica

334 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:18:59am

re: #327 turn

Did you know that, by law, Palin has to pay her own legal bills for defense against this lawfare?

Did you know that, by law, the people waging lawfare against Palin have their legal bills paid by the state?

There is much to emulate in Alaskans. That particular little legal mumbo-jumbo is not one of the things to be emulated.

335 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:19:11am

re: #333 OldLineTexan

I heard (on right-wing reactionary talk radio*)that LA is spending 2 MILLION dollars on Michael Jackson's memorial service.

Heh.

/* ie, not Pacifica

Isn't anything not Air America considered right-wing reactionary talk radio?

336 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:20:31am

re: #333 OldLineTexan

If Jermaine performs, it'll be worth every nickel.

Bye y'all. Skips down the hallway toward the door...trips...face plants...

337 vxbush  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:20:52am

Morning, everyone. Well, the medical community is already suffering the slings and arrows of modernity and progress. I had labwork to do today, and I had written down that I was doing a sonogram (thyroid check) and bloodwork. I called my doctor last week to confirm it, and they concurred. I get in today, and only the sonogram is listed: no bloodwork is on the order anywhere, and they can't find another order.

Loverly. This is why, despite being a raging geekophile, I'm not too thrilled with electronic records. I know how easily things can disappear into the electronic trash can. And I know how insecure things are by default.

338 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:20:54am

re: #318 soxfan4life

The Cubs have a fan base much like the Red Sox and not winning a championship doesn't distract the loyal base.

Maybe you are correct, but I used to think that about the Bears fan base too, and I saw them revolt. I've talked to people in the ownership who told me they realized that they had pushed the envelop too far, so to speak, when they walked into Soldier Field on day in the late 90's for a home game against the Packers and the entire stadium looked green and gold. The Bears fans in mass had sold their tickets and not shown up.

In the off season the waiting list for season tickets evaporated as people turned in seats they had held for generations.

That's when they fired Wannie, kicked Mike McKaskey upstairs and started looking for a competent General Manager plus upgraded the stadium.

Cubs management needs to be aware that they can screw this up.

339 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:20:56am

Finally got some sporadic sleep around 6:00 AM EDS. But my insomnia is truly debilitating.
/not anyone's problem

340 Spider Mensch  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:21:13am

What recession? recently two Sonic burger joints have opened in my area, I guess the first ones for where I live..there are lines of cars to get into these places. Local police have been dispatched to help control traffic. as one car leaves, they let another in. it creates traffic jams on the highways these burger joints are located on...I have never eaten a Sonic burger, I'm not into fast food, but if people can line up with their cars running, wasting gas and time, to buy a hamburger...then I see no recession here...just a bunch of fat asses waiting in their cars to eat a burger.

341 KenJen  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:22:49am

re: #327 turn

Morning sox, me too. I watched that interview Palin had with Andrea Mitchell this morning before leaving for work. It really changed my perspective about what Palin is up to. She was concerned about not being able to be effective as Governor and she was genuinely concerned about the all those frivolous law suits were costing the state monetarily as well. Of course you got every liberal on TV moaning about how this resignation just shows she is not prepared to lead, you know she's a quitter and all. So friggin predictable, they are so frightened about the possibility of her running in 2012 that they are already trying to smear her over the resignation rather than take her by her word. I still think there is a possibility she will run however unorthodox it may seem.

I like Palin but the thing that bothers me about her decision to leave is that she is almost saying ---the state of Alaska will be better of without me. I'm a detriment to the state. I can't fix this so I'm leaving. That's what I took from her statement.

342 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:23:02am

re: #339 Gang of One

Finally got some sporadic sleep around 6:00 AM EDS. But my insomnia is truly debilitating.
/not anyone's problem

I feel your pain, haven't been sleeping much myself as of late.

343 vxbush  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:23:18am

re: #340 Spider Mensch

then I see no recession here...just a bunch of fat asses idiots waiting in their cars to eat a burger.

FTFY. Of course, if Al Gore was in line, I'm sure it would have been okay for him.

344 FrogMarch  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:23:49am

re: #333 OldLineTexan

I heard (on right-wing reactionary talk radio*)that LA is spending 2 MILLION dollars on Michael Jackson's memorial service.

Heh.

/* ie, not Pacifica

Well, maybe that 2 million will generate more for the city? /doubtful.

345 FrogMarch  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:24:53am

re: #321 soxfan4life

They want to do it bigger and better than socialist Europe.

Socialized health care will certainly get us there at lightening speed.

346 badger1970  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:25:22am

re: #340 Spider Mensch

I only go to Sonic during their "happy hour" where soft drinks (80-85% ice) and slushes are 1/2 off. Their burgers are all over the board from too salty to too well done, the tater tots are fine but the fries suck.

347 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:25:25am

re: #334 razorbacker

Did you know that, by law, Palin has to pay her own legal bills for defense against this lawfare?

Did you know that, by law, the people waging lawfare against Palin have their legal bills paid by the state?

There is much to emulate in Alaskans. That particular little legal mumbo-jumbo is not one of the things to be emulated.

No I didn't know that, in fact I had the impression it was costing the state by what I heard this morning. Well her resignation would still make sense, she couldn't afford to fight (lawfare - ha I like that) on a Governor's salary so she will start making the big bucks on speech tour, movie, or book deals to rake up the money to fight. Those friggin dems piss me off with that lawfare, the ACLU is probably in there helping with all this.

348 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:25:38am

re: #324 OldLineTexan

They are aiming at the basis of the American economy ... energy.

It's not good.

Yep. It takes a lot of energy to bend the world to suit our own particular whims.

Speaking of bending the world to suit my whims, I need to get busy bending my own little slice of heaven to suit myself.

Y'all have some fun today. You may not get another chance. That's why I taught my daughter to eat dessert first. Folks will be shoving broccoli in your face all your life. It's pie and cake that they're stingy with.

349 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:26:10am

re: #346 badger1970

But their shakes... mmm... banana cream shake... drool.

350 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:26:43am

re: #348 razorbacker

Mmmm. Pie.
Mmmm. Cake.

351 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:27:06am

re: #316 soxfan4life

I look forward to Palin's lawyer going after every one of these POS that felt it necessary to spout nonstop B/S about the Palin family.

I talked to some lawyers I know about this. According to them, she will have a tough go making a case on anything said while she is still in office cause of being a public official at the time. But if they keep going after her after she is out of office, that is a different matter.

They figure she is laying a trap for the Palin haters for when she is a private citizen.

I have a very vague memory of Johny Carson doing something like this years ago. He owned one or more banks and was on the Board of Directors. Somebody kept lying about him in print about the bank stuff, but as long as he was on the Board there was not much he could do. So he stepped down from the Board for a while, waited for the party to open their mouth again, and when they did he took them to court and won.

352 FrogMarch  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:27:12am

re: #331 albusteve

Totten interviews Goldberg...nobody seems too optimistic

[Link: www.michaeltotten.com...]

Last time I visited Israel, at the end of the Gaza war this past January, I met Palestinian journalist Khaled Abu Toameh. He sounded no less despondent than the Israelis I spoke to. “Listen,” he said. “We must stop dreaming about the New Middle East and coexistence and harmony and turning this area into Hong Kong and Singapore...I don't see a real peace emerging over here. We should stop talking about it.”

Well, at least he's honest. The Palis live and breathe to hate and kill the Jews. That's a hard drug to quit.

353 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:27:19am

re: #341 KenJen

I like Palin but the thing that bothers me about her decision to leave is that she is almost saying ---the state of Alaska will be better of without me. I'm a detriment to the state. I can't fix this so I'm leaving. That's what I took from her statement.


Maybe she felt the state deserved a full time governor, not someone who was tied up with court hearings and other assorted B/S dealing with all of these baseless claims the liberals keep filing. Even the best person in the world for a particular job can be reduced to ineffectiveness if you pile enough shit on their plate. I like the fact that she is different, maybe she isn't electable in 2012, but after 4 years of 0 a fresh approach and a true outsider might be unstoppable, you never know. Who would have said a state Senator with very little experience could get elected to the US Senate and then the Presidency in 2005?

354 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:27:20am

re: #337 vxbush

Morning vx, I sure hope they find the cause of your fatigue. Good luck.

355 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:28:07am

re: #344 FrogMarch

Well, maybe that 2 million will generate more for the city? /doubtful.

Probably, it's apparent from some of the reports I am hearing this morning that there is a lot of people coming into L.A. for this, more people than even have scored tickets.

I imagine this will generate much more than 2 million, easily, and as I am typing, the business editor on the radio station I am listening to (KOA) said this will bring in millions.

Cities host and help support conventions of all sorts, knowing in return it will be an investment that pays.

This is no different.

356 Spider Mensch  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:28:40am

re: #343 vxbush

FTFY. Of course, if Al Gore was in line, I'm sure it would have been okay for him.

I'm not sure if they have endangered sea bass on the menu though...:)

357 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:28:54am

re: #340 Spider Mensch

What recession? recently two Sonic burger joints have opened in my area, I guess the first ones for where I live..there are lines of cars to get into these places. Local police have been dispatched to help control traffic. as one car leaves, they let another in. it creates traffic jams on the highways these burger joints are located on...I have never eaten a Sonic burger, I'm not into fast food, but if people can line up with their cars running, wasting gas and time, to buy a hamburger...then I see no recession here...just a bunch of fat asses waiting in their cars to eat a burger.


All new places introduced to an area are like that. The food at Sonic is OK and the backup will last 2 weeks. It's called a honeymoon. We had the same problem in a smaller town in my county with a Long John Sivers/Taco Bell. Problem was, they were on a main road, backing up commerce. There was also about 5 accidents in those 2 weeks.

358 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:29:01am

re: #342 soxfan4life

I feel your pain, haven't been sleeping much myself as of late.

This has been happening for several years on and off, but it became chronic and severe when I started teaching last fall ... stress and all that. I figured things would improve after June 25 when school let out, but now it seems to be getting worse. I go to bed usually around 10:00 and I awaken just after 1:30 and can't get to sleep until past daybreak.

/getting desperate

359 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:29:11am

re: #339 Gang of One

Finally got some sporadic sleep around 6:00 AM EDS. But my insomnia is truly debilitating.
/not anyone's problem

Dang, it's too bad Michael is gone - I"m sure he could have recommended a drug of two that would help ya.
//
Sorry about the insomnia, fortunately that has NEVER been turn's problem. I sleep like a rock.

360 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:30:21am

re: #355 Walter L. Newton

Probably, it's apparent from some of the reports I am hearing this morning that there is a lot of people coming into L.A. for this, more people than even have scored tickets.

I imagine this will generate much more than 2 million, easily, and as I am typing, the business editor on the radio station I am listening to (KOA) said this will bring in millions.

Cities host and help support conventions of all sorts, knowing in return it will be an investment that pays.

This is no different.

the Jackson Bowl I

361 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:30:26am

re: #351 3 wood

I talked to some lawyers I know about this. According to them, she will have a tough go making a case on anything said while she is still in office cause of being a public official at the time. But if they keep going after her after she is out of office, that is a different matter.

They figure she is laying a trap for the Palin haters for when she is a private citizen.

I have a very vague memory of Johny Carson doing something like this years ago. He owned one or more banks and was on the Board of Directors. Somebody kept lying about him in print about the bank stuff, but as long as he was on the Board there was not much he could do. So he stepped down from the Board for a while, waited for the party to open their mouth again, and when they did he took them to court and won.

I had a feeling that she was leaving office so that slander and libel laws would apply. Plus they have accumulated 1/2 a million in legal fees, sooner or later you just got to throw in the towel you can't burden future generations unless you're the government.

362 vxbush  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:31:01am

re: #354 turn

Morning vx, I sure hope they find the cause of your fatigue. Good luck.

Well, at this point, it's down to one of two things. We've gotten rid of just about every other cause.

363 vxbush  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:31:29am

re: #356 Spider Mensch

I'm not sure if they have endangered sea bass on the menu though...:)

Heh. Ah, but he probably wouldn't have been bringing his daughter, now.

364 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:31:30am

re: #360 albusteve

the Jackson Bowl I

And 4 more to go. (Walter, that's sick).

365 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:32:01am

re: #340 Spider Mensch

In and Out Hamburger is like that here in CA, always busy. Never had a Sonic, oh they are publically traded

[Link: www.google.com...]

In and Out is private.

366 FrogMarch  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:32:40am

re: #355 Walter L. Newton

Probably, it's apparent from some of the reports I am hearing this morning that there is a lot of people coming into L.A. for this, more people than even have scored tickets.

I imagine this will generate much more than 2 million, easily, and as I am typing, the business editor on the radio station I am listening to (KOA) said this will bring in millions.

Cities host and help support conventions of all sorts, knowing in return it will be an investment that pays.

This is no different.

Even in death, Michael is a money maker.

(on a side note- special thanks to Michael Jackson for stealing Kim Jong Il's 4th of July thunder - heh.)

367 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:33:20am

Good morning, everyone! Hope everyone is getting a great start to their day. I currently have a wonderful mouth swelling thanks to a lovely dentist who I believe a) was an army dentist, and b) was licensed somewhere in a third world country. I think it's the first time in my life where the dentist continually missed his target when cleaning my teeth. There is nothing more glorious than having a dental pick scrape from the roof of your mouth all the way through to the front gums. For a short time, I thought I would require stitches because of the blood gush from that. I went through 2 bibs.

Note to fellow lizards in the DC Metro area... NEVER go to Metropolitan Dental in Silver Spring for your dental needs, unless you're like Bill Murray's character in "Little Shop of Horrors" and enjoy being treated by the sadistic dentist portrayed by Steve Martin. Actually, that probably would've been a blessing comparatively to the man who butchered me last night...

Anyhow, good morning, y'all!

368 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:33:25am

re: #358 Gang of One

I go to bed around 10:30 usually am awake by 3:00 AM the other day I slept until 8 am but because I didn't sleep the night before. I don't take pills so I can't recommend a sleep medication for you. Hope you are able to get some substantial sleep soon.

369 Spider Mensch  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:33:32am

re: #357 Cannadian Club Akbar

All new places introduced to an area are like that. The food at Sonic is OK and the backup will last 2 weeks. It's called a honeymoon. We had the same problem in a smaller town in my county with a Long John Sivers/Taco Bell. Problem was, they were on a main road, backing up commerce. There was also about 5 accidents in those 2 weeks.


the first time I had to pass one, about a half mile back up on the highway..I'm thinking an accident ahead..especially as I got closer and saw the police car with the emergency light bar on...as we got closer..my wife says.."its a hamburger joint"... I was flabbergasted, I wonder how the locals feel that their tax money for their police department is going for crowd control at a burger place?

370 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:33:42am

re: #364 Walter L. Newton

And 4 more to go. (Walter, that's sick).

food, merch vendors, broadcast rights...a whole death industry...a jacksonpot!

371 Sparkizzy  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:33:55am
372 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:34:05am

re: #358 Gang of One

This has been happening for several years on and off, but it became chronic and severe when I started teaching last fall ... stress and all that. I figured things would improve after June 25 when school let out, but now it seems to be getting worse. I go to bed usually around 10:00 and I awaken just after 1:30 and can't get to sleep until past daybreak.

/getting desperate

This will sound familiar. Drink some warm milk. It works for me.

373 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:35:12am

re: #359 turn

Dang, it's too bad Michael is gone - I"m sure he could have recommended a drug of two that would help ya.
//
Sorry about the insomnia, fortunately that has NEVER been turn's problem. I sleep like a rock.

Even in my worst days living alone in a foreign, third-world country, doing terrible things to my body, I slept like a baby. The insomnia started when I came back to the USA, had to move in with elderly family, got into debt [almost out now] and saw my last relationship in several years disappear literally over night.

/will stop complaining now

374 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:35:54am

re: #366 FrogMarch

Even in death, Michael is a money maker.

(on a side note- special thanks to Michael Jackson for stealing Kim Jong Il's 4th of July thunder - heh.)

DVD sales of the memorial, wanna bet. And that is capitalism, like it or not. Those involved will be thinking of every way they can cash in on him for many years to come. And why not?

I don't want to hear about it or see it or really care, but there are a lot of people who do, and each one is a walking money pot, ready to be dipped into.

The Jackson estate will go for it, good!

375 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:36:14am

re: #341 KenJen

I like Palin but the thing that bothers me about her decision to leave is that she is almost saying ---the state of Alaska will be better of without me. I'm a detriment to the state. I can't fix this so I'm leaving. That's what I took from her statement.

Morning Jen, yes you could take it that way or you could believe her that she is just genuinely trying to do what is best for her state. This may be very detrimental to her running for office again, then again it may be her only way to survive to fight another day. I understand Rush said he thinks that this may not hurt her and she can still run in 2012.

376 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:36:21am

re: #367 MrSilverDragon

Good morning, everyone! Hope everyone is getting a great start to their day. I currently have a wonderful mouth swelling thanks to a lovely dentist who I believe a) was an army dentist, and b) was licensed somewhere in a third world country. I think it's the first time in my life where the dentist continually missed his target when cleaning my teeth. There is nothing more glorious than having a dental pick scrape from the roof of your mouth all the way through to the front gums. For a short time, I thought I would require stitches because of the blood gush from that. I went through 2 bibs.

Note to fellow lizards in the DC Metro area... NEVER go to Metropolitan Dental in Silver Spring for your dental needs, unless you're like Bill Murray's character in "Little Shop of Horrors" and enjoy being treated by the sadistic dentist portrayed by Steve Martin. Actually, that probably would've been a blessing comparatively to the man who butchered me last night...

Anyhow, good morning, y'all!

Just got to love those Army dentists. Had one filling a tooth when I returned from Korea, asked him for more novacaine because it hurt like hell, he kept drilling, I was white knuckled, cold sweat, almost crying so I bit him. Pissed him off but gave me some relief from the pain and when he resumed it was after he gave me more novacaine,

377 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:36:21am

re: #369 Spider Mensch

You see that up here in Toronto a lot. I know up here it's not paid for by the taxpayers. It's something called paid duty. The merchant or other company pays for the time that the police officer is there, and it usually covers the police officers overtime and a little extra for the police budget. Might be the same thing going on there.

378 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:37:03am

re: #367 MrSilverDragon

Good morning, everyone! Hope everyone is getting a great start to their day. I currently have a wonderful mouth swelling thanks to a lovely dentist who I believe a) was an army dentist, and b) was licensed somewhere in a third world country...

Quick, hide, where is Nevergiveup? :)

379 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:37:38am

re: #373 Gang of One

(((Gang)))

380 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:37:41am

re: #367 MrSilverDragon

Ouch. Hope you can eat.

381 Rednek  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:37:57am

The stupidest quote I have ever seen a U.S. President utter:

The future does not belong to those who gather armies on a field of battle or bury missiles in the ground.
382 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:38:01am

re: #358 Gang of One

Ask your doctor for Trazedone.(SP?) It is non narcotic.

383 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:38:08am

re: #350 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mmmm. Pie.
Mmmm. Cake.

You better pack a big picnic basket for the beach fbv. ha

384 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:38:32am

re: #381 Rednek

The stupidest quote I have ever seen a U.S. President utter:

I thought it was gong to be
" Hey, I won"

385 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:38:41am

re: #378 Walter L. Newton

Quick, hide, where is Nevergiveup? :)

There is always an exception to the rule. I know the one tooth of mine that was done by an army dentist was fine for about 6 years before it just shattered. Ended up getting an emergency extraction when I was a student.

386 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:38:42am

anybody that would wait in line for for a Sonic Burger is a...special sort of person

387 KenJen  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:38:51am

re: #353 soxfan4life

Maybe she felt the state deserved a full time governor, not someone who was tied up with court hearings and other assorted B/S dealing with all of these baseless claims the liberals keep filing. Even the best person in the world for a particular job can be reduced to ineffectiveness if you pile enough shit on their plate. I like the fact that she is different, maybe she isn't electable in 2012, but after 4 years of 0 a fresh approach and a true outsider might be unstoppable, you never know. Who would have said a state Senator with very little experience could get elected to the US Senate and then the Presidency in 2005?

I would love nothing more than to see Palin kick Obama's ass in 2012. I guess all we can do is sit back and see where she's going with this.

388 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:39:14am

re: #369 Spider Mensch

the first time I had to pass one, about a half mile back up on the highway..I'm thinking an accident ahead..especially as I got closer and saw the police car with the emergency light bar on...as we got closer..my wife says.."its a hamburger joint"... I was flabbergasted, I wonder how the locals feel that their tax money for their police department is going for crowd control at a burger place?

More than likely those cops were rent-a-sops, working off shift for some extra cash. It's done all the time. Certain laws require you to hire extra security depending on the event, size of crowds etc.

I suspect that those cops were off-duty picking up some extra cash.

389 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:39:35am

re: #387 KenJen

I would love nothing more than to see Palin kick Obama's ass in 2012. I guess all we can do is sit back and see where she's going with this.

I don't care who it is, I just want to see the teleprompter display a concession speech.

390 Mithrax  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:39:50am

re: #358 Gang of One

This has been happening for several years on and off, but it became chronic and severe when I started teaching last fall ... stress and all that. I figured things would improve after June 25 when school let out, but now it seems to be getting worse. I go to bed usually around 10:00 and I awaken just after 1:30 and can't get to sleep until past daybreak.

/getting desperate

That happens to me every so often, and while every person is different a few things that worked for me:

No caffene after 3pm

Excercise daily.

Don't eat after 7pm.

Mine usually affect me when I'm under extreme stress, or oddly enough the day of, or day after a full moon.

391 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:40:15am

re: #351 3 wood

Cool, I wouldn't mind that Alaska blogger Shannyn Moore getting her tit caught in a wringer.

392 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:41:02am

re: #361 soxfan4life

Plus they have accumulated 1/2 a million in legal fees, sooner or later you just got to throw in the towel you can't burden future generations unless you're the government.

Once she is out of office she can make a lot of money in speaking fees.

When I worked in the public sector, you could not accept a speaking fee, you likely had to pay for your meal at the event, it really got silly. I remember there was an out in the applicable "Gift Ban Act' for golf outings, but it did not define what a "golf outing" was. So one guy I knew carried a 3 piece collapsable putter and a golf ball to these speaking events, would assemble the putter in front of witnesses and putt the ball one foot in a hallway somewhere, declare the event a "golf outing" and then go about his business at the event.

393 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:41:03am

re: #386 albusteve

anybody that would wait in line for for a Sonic Burger is a...special sort of person

How about a Whataburger. I wish we had more Whataburgers in the Denver area. I think we only have one, and it's hidden somewhere off the beaten track.

A Whataburger is the size of a small personal pizza.

394 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:41:13am

re: #389 soxfan4life

I don't care who it is, I just want to see the teleprompter display a concession speech.

utter and total rejection of him and his policies...what a thing to behold

395 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:42:11am

re: #375 turn

Morning Jen, yes you could take it that way or you could believe her that she is just genuinely trying to do what is best for her state. This may be very detrimental to her running for office again, then again it may be her only way to survive to fight another day. I understand Rush said he thinks that this may not hurt her and she can still run in 2012.

A lot of people can run. Remember the Rebulican gang that ran last year?

396 Spider Mensch  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:42:33am

re: #377 BlueCanuck

You see that up here in Toronto a lot. I know up here it's not paid for by the taxpayers. It's something called paid duty. The merchant or other company pays for the time that the police officer is there, and it usually covers the police officers overtime and a little extra for the police budget. Might be the same thing going on there.

re: #388 Walter L. Newton

More than likely those cops were rent-a-sops, working off shift for some extra cash. It's done all the time. Certain laws require you to hire extra security depending on the event, size of crowds etc.

I suspect that those cops were off-duty picking up some extra cash.


probably you both are correct..but they were using the town police car..can you rent a police car too?

397 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:42:49am

re: #379 MandyManners

(((Gang)))

{Mandy}

/no, really, there's something in my eye.

398 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:43:02am

re: #366 FrogMarch

Even in death, Michael is a money maker.

Now that he is gone and thus not spend lavishly anymore, the projections I've heard are that his estate should be worth billions within a few years.

Can you imagine the fist fights that will happen in court over his estate now?

399 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:43:37am

re: #393 Walter L. Newton

How about a Whataburger. I wish we had more Whataburgers in the Denver area. I think we only have one, and it's hidden somewhere off the beaten track.

A Whataburger is the size of a small personal pizza.

and the best breakfast burritos ever...never had one of their burgers, I don't do fast burgers...there is a Whataburger every six blocks in ABQ...even more of them than Walgreens

400 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:45:01am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. LA is girding up for the Jackson memorial tribute, and yet no one seems to know how it will be paid for. AEG is paying for the tribute at the Staples Center, but who's paying LA for the OT costs to police the event? Jackson's estate can't afford it. LA can't afford it.

Funny, but Jacksonian economics explains the whole mess - profligate spending put Jackson into the financial mess he faced, and which meant that his now-canceled tour was going to help raise funds to offset the massive debts staring him in the face.

California's profligate spending has finally come home to roost, and CA simply can't go on a tour to raise more money. Taxpayers are tapped out, and there's no one to blame but themselves.

This is what happens when you spend more than you can afford.

401 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:45:06am

re: #396 Spider Mensch

probably you both are correct..but they were using the town police car..can you rent a police car too?

They are clearly identified as police officers. So having a vehicle as well wouldn't be too difficult.

402 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:45:54am

re: #367 MrSilverDragon

jeeze, that's horrible. Was his last name Mengele? Man, I would find another dentist, either that or let my teeth rot out before going back to that guy.

403 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:46:10am

re: #396 Spider Mensch

probably you both are correct..but they were using the town police car..can you rent a police car too?

Makes a point. I don't know. I do know in some places, the cop can bring their cars home and park them, so, maybe they can use it.

Not sure.

404 Desert Dog  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:46:19am

re: #399 albusteve

and the best breakfast burritos ever...never had one of their burgers, I don't do fast burgers...there is a Whataburger every six blocks in ABQ...even more of them than Walgreens

Lotaburger, baby. We took 35 Boyscouts to the one in Espanola a few years ago. The manager was grinning from ear to ear...the workers were not

405 Rednek  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:47:07am

re: #384 soxfan4life

I thought it was gong to be
" Hey, I won"

The implications of this philosophy are deadly and dangerous to millions.

406 Desert Dog  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:47:29am

re: #402 turn

jeeze, that's horrible. Was his last name Mengele? Man, I would find another dentist, either that or let my teeth rot out before going back to that guy.

Yes, I recommend Dr. DeKay or Dr. Plack, they are great dentists!

407 KenJen  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:48:11am

re: #400 lawhawk

Great analogy.

408 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:48:17am

Good morning you all! From a warmish (73 degrees going up to 90 degrees with the usual T-Storm predicted for this afternoon) mostly sunny Charlotte!

How is everyone this morning?

409 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:48:18am

re: #390 Mithrax

That happens to me every so often, and while every person is different a few things that worked for me:

No caffene after 3pm

Excercise daily.

Don't eat after 7pm.

No caffeine after 3 -- check
Daily exercise -- working on it [I get lazy sometimes]
Don't eat after 7 -- check

Should probably avoid alcohol for a while, too, neh?

410 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:48:18am

re: #340 Spider Mensch

What recession? recently two Sonic burger joints have opened in my area, I guess the first ones for where I live..there are lines of cars to get into these places. Local police have been dispatched to help control traffic. as one car leaves, they let another in. it creates traffic jams on the highways these burger joints are located on...I have never eaten a Sonic burger, I'm not into fast food, but if people can line up with their cars running, wasting gas and time, to buy a hamburger...then I see no recession here...just a bunch of fat asses waiting in their cars to eat a burger.

I actually tried out the Sonic that just opened in Hasbrook Heights in NJ, and the cops were there directing traffic a week after it opened. I don't get it. The Mrs. had a chocolate/strawberry shake and liked it. I wasn't as impressed with the regular chocolate shake. The onion rings were good.

Your mileage may vary.

That's all we tried, but I see it as an environmentalists nightmare since you have all those cars sitting and idling while waiting for the food to come out.

Then again, they're supporting state coffers by running their motors while burning gasoline that sustains local roads and bridges via motor fuels taxes.

411 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:48:21am

re: #396 Spider Mensch

probably you both are correct..but they were using the town police car..can you rent a police car too?

Since they are using the Police vehicle the officers are technically on duty.

But the hamburger joint will most likely get a bill for crowd control services provided above and beyond the normal service level. Common practice in many municipalities.

412 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:48:24am

re: #404 Desert Dog

Lotaburger, baby. We took 35 Boyscouts to the one in Espanola a few years ago. The manager was grinning from ear to ear...the workers were not

re: #404 Desert Dog

Lotaburger, baby. We took 35 Boyscouts to the one in Espanola a few years ago. The manager was grinning from ear to ear...the workers were not

what were you doing over here?...campout?

413 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:48:39am

re: #373 Gang of One

A companion might help, sounds like you are lonely. Good luck gang.

414 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:49:23am

re: #402 turn

jeeze, that's horrible. Was his last name Mengele? Man, I would find another dentist, either that or let my teeth rot out before going back to that guy.

After that experience, there's no way in any manner, shape, or form, that I will return to that dentist. I've already contacted my insurance about changing dentists.

His last name wasn't Mengele, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was either a relation or tutelage somewhere along the line.

415 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:49:56am

Gaffetastic greasy joe!

And they say W is an idiot. He couldn't hold a candle to joe.

416 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:50:33am

re: #414 MrSilverDragon

Was he muttering, "is it safe?" ;^)

417 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:50:33am

re: #400 lawhawk

This is what happens when you spend more than you can afford.

Eventually you run out of other people's money.

Funny, my kids don't understand that either.

418 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:50:50am

re: #409 Gang of One

No caffeine after 3 -- check
Daily exercise -- working on it [I get lazy sometimes]
Don't eat after 7 -- check

Should probably avoid alcohol for a while, too, neh?

If you drink in the evening, that will not help. Take it from an ex-professional drinker.

Also do you know if it is possible that you are suffering from sleep apnea? Are you heavy set? You can not be getting a full nights sleep and not even know that it's because of apnea, you just think you are waking up a lot.

419 Desert Dog  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:50:53am

re: #412 albusteve

what were you doing over here?...campout?

Summer camp in Chimayo. We did the Philmont trails the next year. Then, alas, my boy scout discovered girls, got a job and quit, right before he was to be an eagle. Oh well, his little brother is into that, so perhaps he will make it?

420 Mithrax  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:51:34am

re: #409 Gang of One

No caffeine after 3 -- check
Daily exercise -- working on it [I get lazy sometimes]
Don't eat after 7 -- check

Should probably avoid alcohol for a while, too, neh?

I'd say so.

I found that I'm up often if I don't have enough water in me (all the diuretics like Caffeine, alcohol, etc).

421 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:51:40am

re: #416 rightside

Was he muttering, "is it safe?" ;^)

You know, I was waiting for him to say that... half expecting it, considering.

422 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:51:50am

re: #403 Walter L. Newton

I do know in some places, the cop can bring their cars home and park them, so, maybe they can use it.

They can only do that if they are in transit, they also have to pay income tax on the mileage.

423 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:52:31am

re: #381 Rednek

The future does not belong to those who gather armies on a field of battle or bury missiles in the ground

.


FCBBHO said that?

424 vxbush  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:53:02am

re: #417 3 wood

Eventually you run out of other people's money.

Funny, my kids don't understand that either.

We bought a game system this weekend and the daughter was whining and complaining, "But you never did that while I was home!"

425 Mithrax  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:53:06am

re: #423 MandyManners

.

FCBBHO said that?

time Magazine

426 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:53:17am

re: #415 rightside

Gaffetastic greasy joe!

And they say W is an idiot. He couldn't hold a candle to joe.

Forrest Gump couldn't hold a candle to Joe. He defines stupid is as stupid does.

427 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:53:21am

If any finance or economics lizards are around, could someone point me to a quick synopsis of why the "audit the Fed" idea is a kooky idea? I mean, I'm going by who wants it and assuming it's stupid, pointless or kooky, but I can't articulate why. Is it tied to the gold standard movement or something different? Thanks for any answers.

428 VioletTiger  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:53:28am

re: #400 lawhawk
It's hard to believe that this is the same media and the same public that tore the guy to shreds just a short while ago for his legal woes, for dangling babies over balconies, plastic surgeries and just plain kookiness. How did he get to be so important so quickly? I still can't figure it out.

429 Spider Mensch  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:53:39am

re: #410 lawhawk

I actually tried out the Sonic that just opened in Hasbrook Heights in NJ, and the cops were there directing traffic a week after it opened. I don't get it. The Mrs. had a chocolate/strawberry shake and liked it. I wasn't as impressed with the regular chocolate shake. The onion rings were good.

Your mileage may vary.

That's all we tried, but I see it as an environmentalists nightmare since you have all those cars sitting and idling while waiting for the food to come out.

Then again, they're supporting state coffers by running their motors while burning gasoline that sustains local roads and bridges via motor fuels taxes.

that's one of the ones I passed...on Rt 17, the other was rt 46 out by cedar grove or Wayne, not sure exactly.

430 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:53:43am

re: #422 3 wood
Hey good morning my friend! How are you and yours doing today?

431 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:54:07am

The market is down about 0.5% so far.

432 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:54:11am

re: #395 midwestgak

A lot of people can run. Remember the Rebulican gang that ran last year?

Morning gal, yes including (gulp) Ron Paul. Incidentally I'm not necessarily endorsing Palin for 2012, I"m just disgusted at the MSM and the left wing bloggers who are trying to smear her (and quite successfully). I'm sick and tired of dirty politics and the MSM carrying water for the liberals.

433 soxfan4life  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:54:26am

re: #424 vxbush

We bought a game system this weekend and the daughter was whining and complaining, "But you never did that while I was home!"

Did you respond by saying it was because you were afraid she wouldn't leave?

434 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:54:52am

re: #397 Gang of One

Take care.

435 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:55:19am

re: #429 Spider Mensch

that's one of the ones I passed...on Rt 17, the other was rt 46 out by cedar grove or Wayne, not sure exactly.

It depends on how much it has rained recently. Heavy rain, things in Wayne tend to float away, to Cedar Grove and further :)

436 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:55:42am

re: #425 Mithrax

time Magazine

Stupid, fucking idiot.

437 Mithrax  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:55:42am

re: #434 MandyManners


Oh Mandy, before I forget, and if I may, how's your mother?

438 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:56:27am

re: #425 Mithrax

time Magazine

The morons elected a second year philosophy student to be our president.
*what a fucking joke

439 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:56:28am

re: #428 VioletTiger

It's hard to believe that this is the same media and the same public that tore the guy to shreds just a short while ago for his legal woes, for dangling babies over balconies, plastic surgeries and just plain kookiness. How did he get to be so important so quickly? I still can't figure it out.

Because he's dead. Kurt Cobain only had 2 album done when he ate a shotgun. And Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin made more money AFTER dying.

440 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:56:43am

re: #390 Mithrax

That happens to me every so often, and while every person is different a few things that worked for me:

No caffene after 3pm

Excercise daily.

Don't eat after 7pm.

Mine usually affect me when I'm under extreme stress, or oddly enough the day of, or day after a full moon.

Ever have tooth dreams during extremely stressful times? I have. One that I remember vividly is that when I bit down, my teeth became honeycomb and crumbled.

Tony Soprano had a tooth dream while he was wrestling with the decision about his cousin Tony.

441 KenJen  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:56:53am

re: #423 MandyManners

.


FCBBHO said that?

Yep. Then, according to Drudge, 3 hours later suspected U.S. missiles hit militants somewhere on the Afghan border. Can't make this stuff up.

442 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:57:36am

re: #419 Desert Dog

Summer camp in Chimayo. We did the Philmont trails the next year. Then, alas, my boy scout discovered girls, got a job and quit, right before he was to be an eagle. Oh well, his little brother is into that, so perhaps he will make it?

I wondered about Chimayo...very interesting place...the is some sort of Catholic mysticism alive and well up there...ancient, and secretive stuff...and it's more than just the Santuario...very strange and unique place

[Link: www.archdiocesesantafe.org...]

443 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:57:39am

re: #410 lawhawk

I actually tried out the Sonic that just opened in Hasbrook Heights in NJ, and the cops were there directing traffic a week after it opened. I don't get it. The Mrs. had a chocolate/strawberry shake and liked it. I wasn't as impressed with the regular chocolate shake. The onion rings were good.

Your mileage may vary.

Is this on Rt. 46 near Teterboro or inland? I am right by the GWB ...

444 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:57:50am

re: #436 MandyManners

*guessing at avanti's reply*

"all presidents say things with which we may agree or disagree. But I hope he changes Russia's mind. He could use a boost in the polls."

445 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:57:54am

re: #437 Mithrax

Hanging on. Thank you for asking.

446 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:58:26am

re: #442 albusteve

I wondered about Chimayo...very interesting place...the is some sort of Catholic mysticism alive and well up there...ancient, and secretive stuff...and it's more than just the Santuario...very strange and unique place

[Link: www.archdiocesesantafe.org...]

Shush... it's a secret.

447 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:59:13am

re: #428 VioletTiger

It's hard to believe that this is the same media and the same public that tore the guy to shreds just a short while ago for his legal woes, for dangling babies over balconies, plastic surgeries and just plain kookiness. How did he get to be so important so quickly? I still can't figure it out.

it's about ratings...follow the $$$

448 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:59:16am

re: #438 VegasRick
Hey VeagasRick - you want to see a younger version of that? Check out: [Link: graphics8.nytimes.com...]
(h/t Mr.JohnAdams).

449 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:59:20am

re: #441 KenJen

Yep. Then, according to Drudge, 3 hours later suspected U.S. missiles hit militants somewhere on the Afghan border. Can't make this stuff up.

I think that the missiles he was talking about are our nukes in silos.

450 bloodnok  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:59:26am

re: #445 MandyManners

Hanging on. Thank you for asking.

I am glad to hear that. I respect you a great deal and I hope for the best for you and your family. {Mandy}

451 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:59:34am

re: #418 Walter L. Newton

If you drink in the evening, that will not help. Take it from an ex-professional drinker.

Also do you know if it is possible that you are suffering from sleep apnea? Are you heavy set? You can not be getting a full nights sleep and not even know that it's because of apnea, you just think you are waking up a lot.

That is a very good observation Walter. I had a coworker who had that and he wasn't even overweight (well not too much). He would just nod out at work all the time. A doctor finally sent him home with this little device that monitored his breathing and sleep. The guy was practically suffocating in his sleep! They trimmed out his tonsils and adenoids and that cured the problem, opened up his airways.

452 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:59:53am

re: #413 turn

A companion might help, sounds like you are lonely. Good luck gang.

Oh, Turn, I thought when I met her a year ago she was the right woman at the right time. Turns out she was not. After all the emotional investment, I am having a hard time being a single guy again.

/will spare the details.

453 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:00:03am

re: #444 rightside

*guessing at avanti's reply*

"all presidents say things with which we may agree or disagree. But I hope he changes Russia's mind. He could use a boost in the polls."

The head. It explodes.

*pop*

454 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:00:28am

re: #434 MandyManners

Take care.

Will do my best, Mandy. Thank you, thanks to all for your suggestions.

455 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:00:28am

re: #450 bloodnok

Thank you.

456 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:00:36am

re: #445 MandyManners

Hanging on. Thank you for asking.

Thank God and I'm glad to hear that this morning {Mandy}.

457 Mithrax  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:00:52am

re: #445 MandyManners

Hanging on. Thank you for asking.

Hugs

She's still on my prayer chain, and so is your family too.

458 John Neverbend  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:01:01am

re: #330 Bloodnok

+1 for the Spike Milligan quote, Charles. As a Goon Show fan I think Spike was a genius.

He certainly was. I remember reading his "Silly verse for kids".

In later life, he became a Christian, but I do remember him saying that the only way he could explain the bad things that happen in the world was that God made mistakes.

Here's a funny song from the Q series. The singer is John Bluthal. The "musician" seated on the right is David Lodge, a regular on the show.

459 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:01:18am

Good Morning Lizards! How is everyone today?

460 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:01:37am

re: #436 MandyManners

Stupid, fucking idiot.

I have a quote for him. "War is politics by other means" Von Clausewitz.

Most of these well meaning idiots always seem to want to disarm. Of course anytime that has happened in history the people disarming tend to disappear.

461 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:01:45am

re: #459 HoosierHoops

Hoops! good to see you.

462 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:02:15am

re: #459 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards! How is everyone today?

You really wanna know?

463 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:02:27am

re: #443 Gang of One

It's the one on Rt 17, near Teterboro.

If you want a far superior chocolate shake, try the Goffle Grill on Goffle Rd. in Hawthorne, Bischoff's in Teaneck, Van Dyck's on Ackerman in Ridgewood, or the $5 shake at Bobby's Burger Palace in the Bergen Town Center.

464 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:02:32am

re: #461 rightside

Hoops! good to see you.

Good Morning Rightside! How is life treating you?

465 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:02:33am

re: #448 realwest

Hey VeagasRick - you want to see a younger version of that? Check out: [Link: graphics8.nytimes.com...]
(h/t Mr.JohnAdams).

Wow!

466 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:02:46am

re: #454 Gang of One

The worst thing I've ever done about insomnia is to toss and turn, to worry about it.

Oh, and about that romance thing, on 11/16 of this year, I will have been celibate for 10 years. It ain't killed me yet.

467 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:03:05am

re: #456 realwest

Thank you!

468 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:03:06am

re: #459 HoosierHoops
Good morning Hoops! How are you doing this morning?

469 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:03:07am

re: #464 HoosierHoops

Ehh, pretty good. had some ups and downs, but overall good.

470 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:03:09am

re: #446 Walter L. Newton

Shush... it's a secret.

if you were to visit down here Walter, it's one place I think you would find very intriguing...the surrounding locals still practice bizarre rituals long banned or disregarded by the Church...you probably know more than me about it, or could in 15 min

471 bloodnok  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:03:18am

re: #458 John Neverbend

He certainly was. I remember reading his "Silly verse for kids".

In later life, he became a Christian, but I do remember him saying that the only way he could explain the bad things that happen in the world was that God made mistakes.

Here's a funny song from the Q series. The singer is John Bluthal. The "musician" seated on the right is David Lodge, a regular on the show.



Thanks! I certainly wish someone would release Q on DVD. Even if they did I suspect I couldn't find a copy here in the states, but from what I hear it was excellent.

472 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:03:20am

re: #457 Mithrax

Thank you!

473 legalpad  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:03:29am

re: #358 Gang of One

Valerian, melatonin: both cheap in many health stores, drugstores. Compatible with heavy daytime activity.

474 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:03:42am

re: #418 Walter L. Newton

If you drink in the evening, that will not help. Take it from an ex-professional drinker.

Also do you know if it is possible that you are suffering from sleep apnea? Are you heavy set? You can not be getting a full nights sleep and not even know that it's because of apnea, you just think you are waking up a lot.

Hmmm. I'm a stocky guy, 190 lbs., 6'5" lots of muscle mass, but last time I measured, I was around 23 percent body fat -- just on the lighter side of overweight. Have been shedding some of the fat by doing more exercise and watching the food intake. Apnea -- will look into it.

475 KenJen  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:03:44am

re: #459 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards! How is everyone today?

Just peachy. You?

476 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:03:58am

re: #451 turn

That is a very good observation Walter. I had a coworker who had that and he wasn't even overweight (well not too much). He would just nod out at work all the time. A doctor finally sent him home with this little device that monitored his breathing and sleep. The guy was practically suffocating in his sleep! They trimmed out his tonsils and adenoids and that cured the problem, opened up his airways.

Bingo. Sleep apnea is not always associated with overweight, but either way, it can be insidious. You can really have a problem and never know it, especially if you sleep alone, and there is no one to tell you that you sound like you are dying in your sleep.

477 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:04:07am

re: #460 BlueCanuck

I have a quote for him. "War is politics by other means" Von Clausewitz.

Most of these well meaning idiots always seem to want to disarm. Of course anytime that has happened in history the people disarming tend to disappear.

I wish HE would disappear.

478 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:04:19am

re: #468 realwest

Good morning Hoops! How are you doing this morning?

Thanks Real..Going to hang out at the pool around lunchtime...Just goofing off

479 wintercat  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:04:25am

re: #341 KenJen

I like Palin but the thing that bothers me about her decision to leave is that she is almost saying ---the state of Alaska will be better of without me. I'm a detriment to the state. I can't fix this so I'm leaving. That's what I took from her statement.

I believe she can't fix this. And that is why she said, I am out of here. I watched an interview between Hannity and Coulter this morning (sorry to those who despise them, I am not in their camp either, but it was on the net and I watched it). Coulter said she would be interested in knowing the affiliations of the people who are launching these frivilous suits against Palin. My guess is it would be an eye opener.

Hey, if Russia gets a RESET button, why not Palin. This move is that, I think.

480 jvic  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:04:31am

re: #334 razorbacker

Did you know that, by law, Palin has to pay her own legal bills for defense against this lawfare?

Did you know that, by law, the people waging lawfare against Palin have their legal bills paid by the state?

There is much to emulate in Alaskans. That particular little legal mumbo-jumbo is not one of the things to be emulated.

1. I heard she has to pay her own legal bills. I didn't hear that the state pays the harassers' legal bills. I'd appreciate a link that I can point to when the issue comes up again.

2. The GOP has been the dominant party in Alaska. They've shot themselves in the foot with these "ethics" laws.

3. Except not really. If the legislature is controlled by a bipartisan Coalition of the Corrupt, they are quite willing to use the flawed goo-goo legislation to bring down a reform governor.

4. I'm guessing it might be unhealthy to harass a truly corrupt Alaskan politician the way the left is harassing Palin.

5. I visited Alaska on business about fifteen years ago. It was my impression that leftist yuppie types were starting to move into the state. Looking at Alaskan Websites makes me think that the process is continuing.

6. I still say that neither Palin nor the national GOP has handled the situation as well as they should. I don't know what Palin should have done, but the 'quitter' tag is going to follow her for a long time. The national GOP are idiots (again, as usual) for standing by while one of their rising stars, who is not personally wealthy, is run out of office by gutter politics.

481 vxbush  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:04:56am

re: #433 soxfan4life

Did you respond by saying it was because you were afraid she wouldn't leave?

Darn! I missed that opportunity! Of course, I should have also said, "And if you had saved up your money, you could have bought one yourself."

482 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:05:04am

re: #459 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards! How is everyone today?

Hmmm, well, I'm not sure why I woke up with a third arm growing out of the middle of my back, but otherwise...

483 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:05:07am

Desert Dog...btw, well done with your boys and scouting...I can't imagine making Eagle...that's a lot of dedication for a youngster

484 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:05:16am

re: #467 MandyManners
You're welcome and prayers for her, you and family go up every night (I pray for all on The List and some others as well so I don't miss or forget anyone). Sending some spcecaial prayers up for your mom and you right now!

485 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:05:43am

re: #474 Gang of One

Hmmm. I'm a stocky guy, 190 lbs., 6'5" lots of muscle mass, but last time I measured, I was around 23 percent body fat -- just on the lighter side of overweight. Have been shedding some of the fat by doing more exercise and watching the food intake. Apnea -- will look into it.

Stocky? Dickhead was 6'4" at 250 lbs. and just about all muscle. You are not stocky.

486 VioletTiger  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:05:46am

Not many Russians watched Obama. Was he boring or did Russia not buy the hopey-changey thing?

487 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:05:59am

re: #475 KenJen

Just peachy. You?

Good morning! I'm doing great!

488 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:07:08am

re: #440 midwestgak

Ever have tooth dreams during extremely stressful times? I have. One that I remember vividly is that when I bit down, my teeth became honeycomb and crumbled.

Tony Soprano had a tooth dream while he was wrestling with the decision about his cousin Tony.

Yes! It is recurring ... the tooth or teeth come loose, or as you say, they become honeycomb and crumble in my mouth. Very disconcerting, to say the least.

489 KenJen  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:07:24am

re: #474 Gang of One

Hmmm. I'm a stocky guy, 190 lbs., 6'5" lots of muscle mass, but last time I measured, I was around 23 percent body fat -- just on the lighter side of overweight. Have been shedding some of the fat by doing more exercise and watching the food intake. Apnea -- will look into it.

Sounds good to me. I'm a girl by the way.

490 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:07:45am

re: #459 HoosierHoops

Morning {HH}.

491 vxbush  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:07:45am

re: #473 legalpad

Valerian, melatonin: both cheap in many health stores, drugstores. Compatible with heavy daytime activity.

Second on the melatonin. My son takes it and I take it. I have sleep problems (neurologist checked and confirmed), so the melatonin helps me to get to sleep faster.

492 FrogMarch  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:08:09am

re: #400 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. LA is girding up for the Jackson memorial tribute, and yet no one seems to know how it will be paid for. AEG is paying for the tribute at the Staples Center, but who's paying LA for the OT costs to police the event? Jackson's estate can't afford it. LA can't afford it.

Funny, but Jacksonian economics explains the whole mess - profligate spending put Jackson into the financial mess he faced, and which meant that his now-canceled tour was going to help raise funds to offset the massive debts staring him in the face.

California's profligate spending has finally come home to roost, and CA simply can't go on a tour to raise more money. Taxpayers are tapped out, and there's no one to blame but themselves.

This is what happens when you spend more than you can afford.

According to CA Democrat Karen Bass (D) - Californians who don't agree to more confiscatory tax hikes are... wait for it..."Terrorists".

493 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:08:13am

re: #482 Walter L. Newton

Hmmm, well, I'm not sure why I woke up with a third arm growing out of the middle of my back, but otherwise...

LOL
Well that covers the back scratching from now on...

494 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:08:39am

re: #447 albusteve

it's about ratings...follow the $$$

Yep, even O'Reilly admitted last night he didn't want to cover it but had to because of ratings.

495 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:08:57am

re: #493 HoosierHoops

LOL
Well that covers the back scratching from now on...

It could also make a dandy perch for Maisey.

496 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:09:08am

re: #490 midwestgak

Morning {HH}.

Good Morning Gak! Anything on the job search?

497 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:09:20am

Goood Mooorning

Radio news this AM
"The man suspected of killing 5 people in South Carolina w/the streets are crowed this morning, blah blah blah, stevie wonder, blah blah blah, motorcade will include the body of Micheal Jackson, blah blah blah, Jackson, blah ..."

The real story, the police have killed the suspected serial killer in SC. They responded to an attempted burglery where shots were exchanged. One officer wounded. Suspect killed. Suspect gun ballistics match the murder weapon.

498 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:09:40am

re: #478 HoosierHoops
Well please think of me while you're floating around in that pool - I'm back to the dentist today for either: a) an impression for a porcelain crown b) a root canal - different tooth or c) both if I need the root canal and can talk 'em into doing both today!
Oh Joy.
You know what? RETIREMENT SUCKS.

499 vxbush  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:09:54am

Okay, work time. Later, everyone.

500 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:09:56am

re: #489 KenJen

re: #474 Gang of One

Hmmm. I'm a stocky guy, 190 lbs., 6'5" lots of muscle mass, but last time I measured, I was around 23 percent body fat -- just on the lighter side of overweight. Have been shedding some of the fat by doing more exercise and watching the food intake. Apnea -- will look into it.

Sounds good to me. I'm a girl by the way.

OK you two, the Lizard Lounge for you!

/// ;)

501 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:10:03am

re: #497 Eowyn2

Good news they got the bastard.

502 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:11:01am

re: #484 realwest

Thanks!

503 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:11:04am

re: #489 KenJen

Sounds good to me. I'm a girl by the way.

Damn, my guessing skills are terrible.

504 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:11:23am

re: #463 lawhawk

It's the one on Rt 17, near Teterboro.

If you want a far superior chocolate shake, try the Goffle Grill on Goffle Rd. in Hawthorne, Bischoff's in Teaneck, Van Dyck's on Ackerman in Ridgewood, or the $5 shake at Bobby's Burger Palace in the Bergen Town Center.

Bischoff's ... a landmark on Cedar Lane! I was the dining room manager across the avenue at Noah's Ark a few years ago.

505 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:11:23am

re: #497 Eowyn2

Goood Mooorning

Radio news this AM
"The man suspected of killing 5 people in South Carolina w/the streets are crowed this morning, blah blah blah, stevie wonder, blah blah blah, motorcade will include the body of Micheal Jackson, blah blah blah, Jackson, blah ..."

The real story, the police have killed the suspected serial killer in SC. They responded to an attempted burglery where shots were exchanged. One officer wounded. Suspect killed. Suspect gun ballistics match the murder weapon.

Didn't I see that he was a career criminal who had been paroled two months ago? So much for our penal system rehabilitating criminals.

506 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:11:31am

re: #439 Cannadian Club Akbar

Because he's dead. Kurt Cobain only had 2 album done when he ate a shotgun. And Jimi Hendrix and Janis Joplin made more money AFTER dying.

Otis Redding's first big hit (Sitting on the Dock of the Bay) came out after he died.

507 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:11:58am

re: #501 rightside

Good news they got the bastard.

Better news - he's room temperature.

508 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:11:59am

re: #486 VioletTiger
Neither one - his teleprompter put everything into Russian and he couldn't read it so he tried it phonetically!
BTW, please disregard any air raid sirens you may hear.

509 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:12:54am

re: #507 VegasRick

you'd be surprised at the people who would want him rehabilitated.

510 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:12:59am

re: #506 Kosh's Shadow

Otis Redding's first big hit (Sitting on the Dock of the Bay) came out after he died.

Tupac has released more albums since he died than when he was alive.

511 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:13:10am

re: #474 Gang of One

Hmmm. I'm a stocky guy, 190 lbs., 6'5" lots of muscle mass, but last time I measured, I was around 23 percent body fat -- just on the lighter side of overweight. Have been shedding some of the fat by doing more exercise and watching the food intake. Apnea -- will look into it.

6'5" and 190 lbs is not even slightly chubby. Well, it might be if you are extremely fine boned. Of course you will never be a runway model with those shoulders.

512 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:13:14am

re: #365 turn

In and Out Hamburger is like that here in CA, always busy. Never had a Sonic, oh they are publically traded

[Link: www.google.com...]

In and Out is private.

That's what SHE said!

513 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:13:54am

re: #495 redstateredneck
Hey there {red} how are y'all doing today?

514 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:14:01am

re: #485 MandyManners

Stocky? Dickhead was 6'4" at 250 lbs. and just about all muscle. You are not stocky.

Oops, not 6'5", I am 5'6". My bad.
/PIMF

515 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:14:04am

Relatives of Soldier Killed in Afghanistan Decry Lack of Coverage Amid Jackson Spectacle

As they should.
FoxNews right now has a "live feed" outside Staples Center for a Jackson memorial.

The world is upside down.

516 wintercat  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:14:41am

re: #512 Mad Al-Jaffee

That's what SHE said!


Dwight!

517 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:14:52am

re: #497 Eowyn2

Goood Mooorning

Radio news this AM
"The man suspected of killing 5 people in South Carolina w/the streets are crowed this morning, blah blah blah, stevie wonder, blah blah blah, motorcade will include the body of Micheal Jackson, blah blah blah, Jackson, blah ..."

The real story, the police have killed the suspected serial killer in SC. They responded to an attempted burglery where shots were exchanged. One officer wounded. Suspect killed. Suspect gun ballistics match the murder weapon.

From what I've read and heard, he was not a violent criminal.

518 legalpad  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:14:56am

re: #474 Gang of One

190 lbs., 6'5"

My friend I'm 180 lbs, 5'10". Nobody thinks I'm stocky. More on sleep: Don't have caffeine after noon. Try to do your exercise earlier, definitely not after 6PM.

519 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:15:06am

re: #514 Gang of One

Oops, not 6'5", I am 5'6". My bad.
/PIMF

OK, now that was a hilarious "oops"!

520 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:15:14am

re: #482 Walter L. Newton

Hmmm, well, I'm not sure why I woke up with a third arm growing out of the middle of my back, but otherwise...

Give yourself a pat on the back.

521 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:15:19am

re: #513 realwest

Hey there {red} how are y'all doing today?

Hey, {real}. Allergies are giving me fits. I think I'm allergic to the building where my office is.

522 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:15:45am

re: #503 rightside

Damn, my guessing skills are terrible.

You missed the bumpy bits?

523 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:15:45am

re: #509 rightside

you'd be surprised at the people who would want him rehabilitated.

He will not kill anybody else in the future, I'd call that rehabilitated!

524 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:15:46am

re: #489 KenJen

Sounds good to me. I'm a girl by the way.

See my #514. Sorry ...

525 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:15:51am

re: #390 Mithrax

That happens to me every so often, and while every person is different a few things that worked for me:

No caffene after 3pm

Excercise daily.

Don't eat after 7pm.

Mine usually affect me when I'm under extreme stress, or oddly enough the day of, or day after a full moon.

That's great advice, but I think regular exercise is better than exercising every day. Your body does need a break from exercise. I've been pretty lazy lately, and I need to get back into the routine of exercising a few times a week.

526 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:16:09am

re: #520 midwestgak

Give yourself a pat on the back.

LOL... like I don't do that now?

527 VioletTiger  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:16:12am

re: #508 realwest

Neither one - his teleprompter put everything into Russian and he couldn't read it so he tried it phonetically!
BTW, please disregard any air raid sirens you may hear.

lol!
That teleprompter can be such a kidder at times.

528 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:16:19am

re: #523 VegasRick

Good point. Forced rehab.

529 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:16:22am

re: #515 reine.de.tout

The world is upside down.


And ass-backwards.

530 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:16:32am

re: #501 rightside

Good news they got the bastard.

one cop was shot in the leg...I could never be a cop...any vehicle, any porch, or home...any time I did anything I would have my pistol drawn...I cannot even imagine otherwise...here in ABQ last year, after a highspeed chase, the perp got out with his gun and before he could use it he shot 14 times...my kinda enforcement

531 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:16:37am

re: #504 Gang of One

Bischoff's ... a landmark on Cedar Lane! I was the dining room manager across the avenue at Noah's Ark a few years ago.

That was you!

532 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:16:50am

re: #514 Gang of One

Oops, not 6'5", I am 5'6". My bad.
/PIMF

Well Hell.. Just when thought we had a small forward for the Lizards Basketball team!

533 legalpad  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:16:54am

re: #491 vxbush

Second on the melatonin. My son takes it and I take it. I have sleep problems (neurologist checked and confirmed), so the melatonin helps me to get to sleep faster.

This is what my special forces son takes, and apparently some of his buddies. I sleep fine if I want to.

534 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:17:01am

re: #505 redstateredneck

Didn't I see that he was a career criminal who had been paroled two months ago? So much for our penal system rehabilitating criminals.

thats according to the paper.
I didn't see where they could definately put the gun in his hand during the murders. I want to see that.

535 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:17:04am

re: #496 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Gak! Anything on the job search?

Sadly, no. The jobs that are out there would have me earning less that what unemployment is paying me. Absolutely no incentive.

536 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:17:06am

re: #517 MandyManners

From what I've read and heard, he was not a violent criminal.

He must have learned a trade in prison.

537 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:17:24am

re: #488 Gang of One

Yes! It is recurring ... the tooth or teeth come loose, or as you say, they become honeycomb and crumble in my mouth. Very disconcerting, to say the least.

Wow, I didn't know tooth dreams were connected with stressful times in some people. Interesting.

538 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:17:28am

By the way, nice game by the Reds last night, getting beat by the Phillies 22 - 1.

Did Dusty Baker wake up yet?

539 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:17:29am

re: #473 legalpad

Valerian, melatonin: both cheap in many health stores, drugstores. Compatible with heavy daytime activity.

Trying melatonin, does not seem to be helping. Valerian tea at night used to help, had trouble with the old gym-sock aroma it has.

540 CommonCents  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:17:47am

re: #381 Rednek

The stupidest quote I have ever seen a U.S. President utter:


The future does not belong to those who gather armies on a field of battle or bury missiles in the ground.

WSJ Opinion - Arms Control Amnesia

Good article on why these arms negotiations are a one-way sham.

541 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:18:40am

re: #506 Kosh's Shadow

Otis Redding's first big hit (Sitting on the Dock of the Bay) came out after he died.

yup, and btw...there is something wrong with putting Cobain in the same sentence with Hendrix and Joplin, for whatever reason..the guy was nobody

542 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:18:42am

re: #515 reine.de.tout
Good morning reine - hope you're well today! The MSM world isn't upside down - the death of an American trooper is not as ratings worthy as MJ's death.
And Rep. Peter King (R-C, NY) caught some flack for saying something like "why are we going to celebrate the death of a child molesting pervert" which some folk considered "over the top" so it didn't even make the local NYC Talking Heads take notice.
Sigh.

543 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:19:21am

Obama to Israel: Get nuked:
Obama: 'Absolutely' no green light for Israel to attack Iran
and
US, Russia Oppose G8 Sanctions on Iran

I'd talk about how the US' economic problems are Divine punishment for our lack of support of Israel, but I'd sound crazy.

G-d will protect Israel; I don't know who will save the US.

544 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:19:26am

re: #512 Mad Al-Jaffee

That's what SHE said!

hahaha mad, I use that line all the time.

545 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:19:57am

re: #497 Eowyn2

Good. One more murderous idiot taking a dirt nap.

546 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:20:06am

re: #521 redstateredneck
That or you're allergic to the work you have to do there. I'd take a sick day and go see an allergist!

547 KenJen  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:20:19am

This is good for a laugh... Image of MJ in a tree stump.

548 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:20:31am

re: #511 Eowyn2

6'5" and 190 lbs is not even slightly chubby. Well, it might be if you are extremely fine boned. Of course you will never be a runway model with those shoulders.

I had to.

549 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:20:41am

re: #530 albusteve

It's definitely a tough career.

550 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:20:46am

re: #514 Gang of One

Oops, not 6'5", I am 5'6". My bad.
/PIMF

Look into the apnea thing, that was good advice Walter had.

551 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:20:47am

re: #381 Rednek

The stupidest quote I have ever seen a U.S. President utter:

The future belongs to the people who rule the seas, the skies and the seas.

552 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:21:06am

re: #531 MandyManners

That was you!

Yeah. I'm really, really sorry. OK?

553 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:21:08am

re: #542 realwest

Good morning reine - hope you're well today! The MSM world isn't upside down - the death of an American trooper is not as ratings worthy as MJ's death.
And Rep. Peter King (R-C, NY) caught some flack for saying something like "why are we going to celebrate the death of a child molesting pervert" which some folk considered "over the top" so it didn't even make the local NYC Talking Heads take notice.
Sigh.

And who knows what else Michael Jackson did. After all, monkeys can't testify.

554 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:21:09am

re: #542 realwest

Good morning reine - hope you're well today! The MSM world isn't upside down - the death of an American trooper is not as ratings worthy as MJ's death.
And Rep. Peter King (R-C, NY) caught some flack for saying something like "why are we going to celebrate the death of a child molesting pervert" which some folk considered "over the top" so it didn't even make the local NYC Talking Heads take notice.
Sigh.

Peter King was right! The only reason it was considered "over the top", is that "celebrity" now seems to be a higher standard for recognition than a person's actual real-life actions and deeds.

555 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:21:17am

re: #546 realwest

That or you're allergic to the work you have to do there. I'd take a sick day and go see an allergist!

I did those allergy shots for years and thought I was cured. Haven't had any problems for probably twenty years. *sigh*

556 legalpad  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:21:27am

re: #525 Mad Al-Jaffee

That's great advice, but I think regular exercise is better than exercising every day. Your body does need a break from exercise. I've been pretty lazy lately, and I need to get back into the routine of exercising a few times a week.

It can work either way, depending on your workout. I alternate weights and running. Some I know do weights 6x per week and it seems to work fine, but they concentrate on one or two muscle groups per day. Much depends on what else you do during the day, your age, etc.

557 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:21:36am

re: #514 Gang of One

Oops, not 6'5", I am 5'6". My bad.
/PIMF

190 at 5'6" is not fat if it's muscle.

558 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:21:52am

Obama Won't Take Second Stimulus Option Off the Table

A second economic stimulus package could still be on the table, President Obama suggested Tuesday as the unemployment rate hovered close to 10 percent.

In an interview with FOX News in Moscow, Obama defended the roll-out so far of the stimulus package passed in February, saying he knew the scope of the economic crisis would make recovery difficult no matter what.

"I think it's important to understand that we've got a short-term challenge which, no matter how big our stimulus was, was going to be a challenge -- partly because we've got fiscal constraints," Obama said.

The president said the government has spent money as fast as it could as the "economic tsunami" unfolded, admitting that getting cash to the states has been difficult.

"You just can't push that out that quickly, partly, not just because the federal government has to process applications, but also because states and local governments have to gear up to get these projects going," Obama said.

When asked about the possibility of a sequel to the $787 billion stimulus, Obama left the door open -- as he did when asked about such legislation during his latest press conference two weeks ago.

"I don't take anything off the table when unemployment is close to 10 percent and a lot of Americans are hurting out there," Obama told FOX News Tuesday.

You can't stop him, you can't even hope to contain him.

/markets no likey

559 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:22:02am

re: #551 Eowyn2

pimf

560 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:22:43am

re: #547 KenJen

This is good for a laugh... Image of MJ in a tree stump.

and so it begins...the beatification of another star...spit

561 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:22:55am

re: #559 Eowyn2

undersea and overseas?

562 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:23:11am

re: #536 redstateredneck

He must have learned a trade in prison.

Larceny, forgery and B&E to murder?

It boggles my mind.

563 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:23:14am

re: #492 FrogMarch

According to CA Democrat Karen Bass (D) - Californians who don't agree to more confiscatory tax hikes are... wait for it..."Terrorists".

Confiscatory taxes? Yeah, just wait til the tax cheat Rangel and his fellow Democrat tax and spenders get their grubbies on the "rich" who are defined pretty much as anyone making just over the salaries of those in Congress to try and pay for the health care makeover. Those tax hikes are not going to cover the costs, and will require still more tax hikes - because the Democrats will never concede that their programs are not working, and that no additional infusion of tax money will solve the problem.

It's tax and spend at its ugliest.

564 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:23:29am

re: #538 3 wood
Good morning again 3 wood - how are you and yours today?

565 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:23:53am

re: #547 KenJen

This is good for a laugh... Image of MJ in a tree stump.


You want funny!

566 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:23:54am

re: #554 reine.de.tout

Peter King was right! The only reason it was considered "over the top", is that "celebrity" now seems to be a higher standard for recognition than a person's actual real-life actions and deeds.

some woman was on the radio this AM talking about how Micheal Jackson changed her life because he fought for the little guy and stood up for what was right yada yada yada
I couldn't believe it.

567 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:24:04am

re: #547 KenJen

This is good for a laugh... Image of MJ in a tree stump.

"Because Michael Jackson was an icon to us," said one neighbor. "To Stockton, Michael Jackson meant more to us than Jesus, to some people. I think they're both about even."


Good Lord.

568 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:24:07am

re: #530 albusteve

you mean he got shot 14 times, right? Cool.

569 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:24:13am

re: #557 MandyManners

190 at 5'6" is not fat if it's muscle.

Like I said, I may not be stocky but I'm pretty solid. I could stand to lose about 15 lbs though. Oh, and I'm short.

570 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:24:21am

re: #529 redstateredneck

And ass-backwards.

That's bass-ackwards.

571 bloodnok  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:24:25am

re: #541 albusteve

yup, and btw...there is something wrong with putting Cobain in the same sentence with Hendrix and Joplin, for whatever reason..the guy was nobody

Wrong. Like him or not he was a pivotal figure in the history of rock music. He was an influence for a genre that lasted probably 5-6 years which is long by any standard. He might not have wanted to be that genre's figurehead, but he was. Just because it is a genre you might not enjoy listening to does not diminish his impact.

572 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:24:27am

re: #561 rightside

undersea and overseas?


works for me.

thank you for taking my chestnuts out of the fire.

573 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:24:32am

re: #566 Eowyn2

Thus the deification and myth writing begins.

574 legalpad  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:24:42am

re: #539 Gang of One

Trying melatonin, does not seem to be helping. Valerian tea at night used to help, had trouble with the old gym-sock aroma it has.

Sounds like you need to do everything advised here simultaneously. My son takes both at once. Valerian also comes in capsule form. What did you do in the 3rd world country you were in? I have one son who was/is in Iraq who had some issues. It could be similar.

575 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:24:42am

re: #552 Gang of One

Yeah. I'm really, really sorry. OK?

I TOLD you that the dog would stay in my purse and you should have believed me.

576 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:25:00am

re: #566 Eowyn2

I could so change your sentence, but I will refrain.

577 KenJen  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:25:06am

re: #560 albusteve

and so it begins...the beatification of another star...spit

My boss and I are wearing sequenced gloves today to honor the passing of MJ. What are you doing?
//

578 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:25:17am

re: #568 turn

you mean he got shot 14 times, right? Cool.

yes...ABQ does not fuck around

579 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:25:18am

re: #556 legalpad

When I was doing Krav Maga regularly, I usually went 3-4 weekdays (after work, from 6-7, 6-8 or 7-8) and most Saturday afternoons. On some off days I would bike. Some weeks I only had one day of no exercise. I'm planning to get back into that when I join a new gym.

580 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:26:17am

In Tour de France news, surprising the daylights out of me is Lance Armstrong in 3rd place. with a strong showing in today's team time trial, Armstrong can assume the yellow jersey.

If he does so, look for him to give it up the next day so he and his team does not get worn out protecting it for the next week or so.

I'm still not sure Armstrong can keep it up every day, but time will tell.

581 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:26:33am

re: #566 Eowyn2

some woman was on the radio this AM talking about how Micheal Jackson changed her life because he fought for the little guy and stood up for what was right yada yada yada
I couldn't believe it.

Apaprently he liked "little guys." I can't recall him ever fighting for them.

582 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:26:34am

re: #579 Mad Al-Jaffee

I walk to work most days and walk home. About a 35-40 minute walk at a brisk pace. To really get a burn I will sandbag the walk.

583 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:26:37am

At HotAir, this is funny:

When Obama picked Joe Biden, we laughed aloud, anticipating the cottage industry in blog posts Biden would generate. He hasn’t disappointed, either. This last weekend’s admission that the Obama administration botched its economic analysis might have been the nadir, or perhaps Biden reached that during the swine-flu outbreak, when he called public transportation a danger to people’s health. It could also have been when Biden told reporters that he couldn’t answer economic questions about Porkulus despite having been appointed to lead the program by Obama.

In this case, though, let’s recall why Obama picked Biden. After Obama fumbled his response to the Russian invasion of Georgia, Obama needed someone to give him foreign policy credibility.

How’s that working out for you, President Obama? So far, it’s working out well for us.

584 rightside  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:26:38am

re: #572 Eowyn2

chestnuts?

585 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:27:22am

re: #571 bloodnok

Wrong. Like him or not he was a pivotal figure in the history of rock music. He was an influence for a genre that lasted probably 5-6 years which is long by any standard. He might not have wanted to be that genre's figurehead, but he was. Just because it is a genre you might not enjoy listening to does not diminish his impact.

He also had the highest selling album of all time.

586 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:27:29am

re: #577 KenJen

My boss and I are wearing sequenced gloves today to honor the passing of MJ. What are you doing?
//

We could all grab our crotches at the stroke of ten o'clock.

587 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:27:33am

re: #575 MandyManners

I TOLD you that the dog would stay in my purse and you should have believed me.

But then I would have had to let EVERYONE keep their dog in the purse.

/but I learn from my mistakes

588 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:27:40am

re: #571 bloodnok

Wrong. Like him or not he was a pivotal figure in the history of rock music. He was an influence for a genre that lasted probably 5-6 years which is long by any standard. He might not have wanted to be that genre's figurehead, but he was. Just because it is a genre you might not enjoy listening to does not diminish his impact.

what took you so long? :)...I know that

589 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:28:01am

re: #569 Gang of One

Like I said, I may not be stocky but I'm pretty solid. I could stand to lose about 15 lbs though. Oh, and I'm short.

So am I.

When I need to drop five pounds, I just substitute celery, carrots and the like for chips and cookies. I won't give up my half-and-half in my coffee, though.

590 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:28:06am

re: #555 redstateredneck

I did those allergy shots for years and thought I was cured. Haven't had any problems for probably twenty years. *sigh*

Um, red? Did y'all miss the "take a sick day off" part of that sentence!

591 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:28:15am

re: #581 Mad Al-Jaffee

Apaprently he liked "little guys." I can't recall him ever fighting for them.

I could say something incredibly rude like, "well, there were the arguments at the NAMBLA meetings", but I won't...

/end bastard mode

592 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:28:24am

re: #577 KenJen

My boss and I are wearing sequenced gloves today to honor the passing of MJ. What are you doing?
//

Moonwalk over to the bar and back

593 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:28:25am

re: #547 KenJen

This is good for a laugh... Image of MJ in a tree stump.

ha, that was on local news here in Sac. What a joke, sometimes a tree knot is just a tree knot.

594 3 wood  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:28:32am

re: #564 realwest

Doing fine. Busy at work so I'm just stopping by the blog here and there.

How are you and your Mom doing?

595 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:28:33am

re: #586 redstateredneck

We could all grab our crotches at the stroke of ten o'clock.

Stroke of 10? Two hands or a show off?

596 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:28:40am

re: #537 turn

Wow, I didn't know tooth dreams were connected with stressful times in some people. Interesting.

It's terrifying. A tooth dream is so real that it takes a few seconds upon waking up to realize that it was just a dream. What's interesting to me is that there is never any physical pain involved when a tooth comes loose. Only mental agony.

597 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:29:04am

re: #587 Gang of One

But then I would have had to let EVERYONE keep their dog in the purse.

/but I learn from my mistakes

You never knew I had teh kitteh in my pocket, did you?

598 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:29:23am

re: #582 BlueCanuck

I find that generally staying active keeps me in decent shape when I'm not regularly hitting the gym. I walk a lot and often take the stairs instead of the elevator. I lost about 30 lbs last year and I've managed ot keep it off (even when being lazy and drinking beer and eating pizza too much.)

599 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:29:34am

re: #590 realwest

Um, red? Did y'all miss the "take a sick day off" part of that sentence!

The company I work for is so sucky I only get 15 vacation/sick days a year. Hell, I'll work sick.

600 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:30:12am


"Jackson did visit the city 20 years ago, following the Cleveland School fatal shootings."

20 years they been waiting for him to reappear.
an "I Will Return" moment.

601 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:30:46am

re: #586 redstateredneck

We could all grab our crotches at the stroke of ten o'clock.

Michael Jackson to be buried sans his brain

/it's a no-brainer!

602 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:30:47am

re: #589 MandyManners

I won't give up my half-and-half in my coffee, though.

Never! By the way, who's idea was it to make fat-free half & half?

603 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:30:49am

Money can’t buy you happiness but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery.

That sort of wisdom is applicable only to those above my pay grade. ):

/good evening

604 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:31:02am

re: #600 Eowyn2


"Jackson did visit the city 20 years ago, following the Cleveland School fatal shootings."

20 years they been waiting for him to reappear.
an "I Will Return" moment.

He aint going back.

605 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:31:04am

re: #598 Mad Al-Jaffee

I find that generally staying active keeps me in decent shape when I'm not regularly hitting the gym. I walk a lot and often take the stairs instead of the elevator. I lost about 30 lbs last year and I've managed ot keep it off (even when being lazy and drinking beer and eating pizza too much.)

I've lost 10 pounds in the last few months due to my High-Stress Diet.

606 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:31:10am

re: #601 Killian Bundy


That's mindless.

607 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:31:20am

re: #596 midwestgak

It's terrifying. A tooth dream is so real that it takes a few seconds upon waking up to realize that it was just a dream. What's interesting to me is that there is never any physical pain involved when a tooth comes loose. Only mental agony.

I've had the tooth dream. I thought it was just me.
:-0

608 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:31:50am

re: #573 BlueCanuck

Thus the deification and myth writing begins.

It could have been me, I coulda been a contender, I could've danced into the heats and minds of millions. If only I'd grabbed my crotch more often!

/

609 legalpad  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:31:52am

re: #579 Mad Al-Jaffee

When I was doing Krav Maga regularly, I usually went 3-4 weekdays (after work, from 6-7, 6-8 or 7-8) and most Saturday afternoons. On some off days I would bike. Some weeks I only had one day of no exercise. I'm planning to get back into that when I join a new gym.

Gotta do it in the evening most of the time with classes of any kind. But I wouldn't if I had gang's sleep issues. I can work out, have some coffee and crash under most circumstances.

610 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:32:07am

re: #606 Mad Al-Jaffee

That's mindless.

The scarecrow would be proud.

611 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:32:13am

re: #596 midwestgak

Every time I've had the tooth dream it's usually my "upper-left" canine that just dangles then falls right out. Huh.

612 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:32:21am

re: #555 redstateredneck

I did those allergy shots for years and thought I was cured. Haven't had any problems for probably twenty years. *sigh*

Hey red, I did the same thing and quit taking the shots thinking I was "cured". They got so bad I went in for another "scratch" test a few years later and it turned out I was allergic to completely new stuff. I was so allergic I actually had a reaction to the scratch test and the doctor was called in and had to give me an emergency shot for it. Check again would be my advice.

613 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:32:21am

re: #585 Mad Al-Jaffee

He also had the highest selling album of all time.

Kurt Cobain did? By dollar amount or number of CD's sold?

614 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:32:24am

re: #604 VegasRick

He aint going back.


he went back to appear in a tree stump. really truly

615 jvic  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:33:03am

re: #381 Rednek

The stupidest quote I have ever seen a U.S. President utter:

The future does not belong to those who gather armies on a field of battle or bury missiles in the ground.

Straight from the weak horse's mouth.

I was hoping that just maybe the nuke talks were a front. That just maybe he went to Russia to coordinate action against Iran.

Silly, silly me.

616 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:33:15am

re: #613 realwest

Kurt Cobain did? By dollar amount or number of CD's sold?

No, Michael Jackson did. Nobody has ever topped the sales of Thriller.

617 legalpad  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:33:19am

re: #566 Eowyn2

some woman was on the radio this AM talking about how Micheal Jackson changed her life because he fought for the little guy and stood up for what was right yada yada yada
I couldn't believe it.

Yeah right. How the man spent his money is rather telling.

618 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:33:44am

re: #610 VegasRick

The scarecrow would be proud.

Totolly

619 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:33:58am

re: #615 jvic

Straight from the weak horse's mouth.

I was hoping that just maybe the nuke talks were a front. That just maybe he went to Russia to coordinate action against Iran.

Silly, silly me.

No - coordinate INaction about Iran:
US, Russia Oppose G8 Sanctions on Iran

620 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:33:59am

re: #594 3 wood
Well mom seems a lot better. Thanks for asking.

I'm back to the dentist today for either: a) an impression for a porcelain crown b) a root canal - different tooth or c) both if I need the root canal and can talk 'em into doing both today!
Oh Joy.

621 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:34:03am

re: #612 turn

Hey red, I did the same thing and quit taking the shots thinking I was "cured". They got so bad I went in for another "scratch" test a few years later and it turned out I was allergic to completely new stuff. I was so allergic I actually had a reaction to the scratch test and the doctor was called in and had to give me an emergency shot for it. Check again would be my advice.


Thanks for the advice. I may have to do that.

622 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:34:10am

re: #614 Eowyn2

he went back to appear in a tree stump. really truly

Michael in a tree.

623 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:34:31am

re: #602 scottishbuzzsaw

Never! By the way, who's idea was it to make fat-free half & half?

Can it even exist in this dimension?

624 CommonCents  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:34:39am

re: #607 redstateredneck

I've had the tooth dream. I thought it was just me.
:-0

I've had the tooth dream for years. I thought it was a result of the 6 veneers I have. When I first got them they were el-cheapos and broke off several times. Then I got the expensive porcelain kind and have had only 1 pop off in the last 20 years.

This tooth thing is weird.

625 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:34:41am

I regard MJ only about half a notch above Curt Cobain, which is pretty much at the bottom of my greatness scale...but even I have to admit the Moonwalk was pretty cool...maybe he didn't actually invent it, but whatever, he made it popular, which has absolutely nothing to do with music

626 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:35:04am

re: #596 midwestgak

Strange, I'm going to google that.

Wow, check this out

[Link: www.experienceproject.com...]

627 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:35:08am

re: #623 MandyManners

Can it even exist in this dimension?

I have my doubts.

628 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:35:09am

re: #597 MandyManners

You never knew I had teh kitteh in my pocket, did you?

What's a kitteh?/

629 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:35:29am

I'm going to do some work.
Peachtree does not recognize 'MJ' 'king of pop' 'kurt cobain' or micheal in a tree stump.

later dudes and dudettes
keep those gloves a-sparklin

630 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:35:52am

re: #619 Kosh's Shadow

No - coordinate INaction about Iran:
US, Russia Oppose G8 Sanctions on Iran

Iran's tanking economy was one of the many reasons voters wanted Dinnerjacket out last month. More sanctions will only cripple it further, and will likely only affect the same people that he and his cronies/masters continue to oppress.

631 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:36:00am

re: #625 albusteve

Nirvana never really did much for me, but they were one of the bands that brought the guitar back to rock music. And I like their Unlplugged album (especially their covers of The Man Who Sold The World and In The Pines.)

632 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:36:11am
633 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:36:24am

re: #625 albusteve

I regard MJ only about half a notch above Curt Cobain, which is pretty much at the bottom of my greatness scale...but even I have to admit the Moonwalk was pretty cool...maybe he didn't actually invent it, but whatever, he made it popular, which has absolutely nothing to do with music

I regard(ed) MJ as an entertainer; not so much a great song writer or singer.

634 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:36:33am

re: #625 albusteve

I regard MJ only about half a notch above Curt Cobain, which is pretty much at the bottom of my greatness scale...but even I have to admit the Moonwalk was pretty cool...maybe he didn't actually invent it, but whatever, he made it popular, which has absolutely nothing to do with music

I don't believe Kurt Cobain ever molested any kids, though.
While we're dissing him, let's have some fun at it, Weird Al style:

635 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:37:11am

re: #602 scottishbuzzsaw
Good morning Scotti! Uh, nevermind who's idea it was, how in the hell do you MAKE "Fat Free" Half and Half?

636 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:37:14am

re: #569 Gang of One

Like I said, I may not be stocky but I'm pretty solid. I could stand to lose about 15 lbs though. Oh, and I'm short.

As noted above, sleep apnea is not always related to weight. If you have insurance, suggest to your doctor that you want to have a sleep test. Or, in the least, have someone stay over at you place and arrange for them to listen to you sleeping, about a hour or two after you go to sleep. They will hear if you are stopping and starting breathing.

637 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:37:31am

re: #634 Kosh's Shadow

Disabled. Damn!

638 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:38:01am

re: #631 Mad Al-Jaffee

Nirvana never really did much for me, but they were one of the bands that brought the guitar back to rock music. And I like their Unlplugged album (especially their covers of The Man Who Sold The World and In The Pines.)

let me clarify what I think about Nirvana...barf!

639 J.D.  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:38:04am
Those who pushed through this year's $787 billion fiscal "stimulus" seem to be counting on the American people's short memory. Wasn't it just last year that we were told, repeatedly and with stark emphasis, that this economy was the "worst" since the Great Depression?

That was the pretense for not only the stimulus, but for the federal takeover of the U.S. auto industry and the quasi-takeover of the U.S. financial industry. It's also the underlying premise for both nationalized health care and massive new taxes to cut CO2 emissions. ...

...Those who argue doing nothing wasn't an option are wrong. We would now be emerging from this recession if the government had left well enough alone. The Fed's interest-rate cuts to zero last December would have been plenty.

Instead, we're facing the worst recovery since the Depression, and the entrepreneurs who fuel job growth are hunkering down to weather planned tax hikes in the trillions of dollars.


wow
whatta plan that was
Stuttering Stimulus
Stimulus: "The truth is, there was a misreading of just how bad an economy we inherited," Vice President Joe Biden told ABC News. Really? What about the "worst economy since the Great Depression"?

640 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:38:25am

re: #574 legalpad

Sounds like you need to do everything advised here simultaneously. My son takes both at once. Valerian also comes in capsule form. What did you do in the 3rd world country you were in? I have one son who was/is in Iraq who had some issues. It could be similar.

I was in Mexico, D.F., working with my family in textiles, then took a year off to pursue music -- played with ex-founder of Mana drummer Abraham Calleros. That was not going anywhere so I got a job with an international freight-forwarder then did a stint on a English-language daily newspaper. From there had a dot-com with a cousin [it folded] and went back to newspaper. Newspaper folded and went to work for other forwarders and came home on September 9, 2002.

641 SixDegrees  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:38:42am

re: #351 3 wood

I talked to some lawyers I know about this. According to them, she will have a tough go making a case on anything said while she is still in office cause of being a public official at the time. But if they keep going after her after she is out of office, that is a different matter.

They figure she is laying a trap for the Palin haters for when she is a private citizen.

I have a very vague memory of Johny Carson doing something like this years ago. He owned one or more banks and was on the Board of Directors. Somebody kept lying about him in print about the bank stuff, but as long as he was on the Board there was not much he could do. So he stepped down from the Board for a while, waited for the party to open their mouth again, and when they did he took them to court and won.


Even as a private citizen, libel cases are exceptionally difficult to prove. You have to prove that the person knowingly lied, and did so with malicious intent. Not an easy thing to do.

642 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:38:43am

re: #637 VegasRick

Disabled. Damn!

See if this link works better. Try right-clicking and "open in a new window"

643 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:39:09am

re: #603 laZardo
Hello laZardo! "Money can’t buy you happiness but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery."
Well I don't know about buying you happiness, but it sure can sure it for a few hours!

644 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:39:13am

re: #597 MandyManners

You never knew I had teh kitteh in my pocket, did you?

I thought I heard someone or something asking for a cheezburger ...

645 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:39:21am

re: #635 realwest

Good morning Scotti! Uh, nevermind who's idea it was, how in the hell do you MAKE "Fat Free" Half and Half?

Good morning, {real} ! I really haven't a clue how they make it, and if it's that much of a mystery, I'm not touching the stuff!

646 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:39:31am

Speaking of fatty foods, I invented a new meal last night. I made up a pork roast for dinner & I thought, "If Yorkshire Pudding is just bread sopped with the leavings of a beef roast, why not do the same with a pork roast?" And so was born Porkshire Pudding.

647 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:40:04am

re: #616 Mad Al-Jaffee

No, Michael Jackson did. Nobody has ever topped the sales of Thriller.

He still looked like a normal human being during that period. What motivates someone to ruin a perfectly good face?

648 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:40:45am

re: #647 midwestgak

He still looked like a normal human being during that period. What motivates someone to ruin a perfectly good face?

Self loathing would be my guess.

649 SixDegrees  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:41:03am

re: #647 midwestgak

He still looked like a normal human being during that period. What motivates someone to ruin a perfectly good face?

I think Bubbles ate part of it.

650 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:41:16am

re: #647 midwestgak

He still looked like a normal human being during that period. What motivates someone to ruin a perfectly good face?

Deep, chronic psychological problems. I think he could have afforded therapy for that.

651 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:41:22am

re: #646 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Speaking of fatty foods, I invented a new meal last night. I made up a pork roast for dinner & I thought, "If Yorkshire Pudding is just bread sopped with the leavings of a beef roast, why not do the same with a pork roast?" And so was born Porkshire Pudding.

LOL! Sounds yummy.

652 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:41:44am

Gaza is a training ground for Al Qaeda as well

Several Europeans, involved in an Egypt-based terror cell affiliated with al-Qaeda, received training in Gaza by Palestinian Authority factions. The cell was plotting to bomb energy pipelines between Israel and Egypt, as well as to carry out
Europeans in the terror cell reportedly underwent arms and explosives training by Palestinian Authority factions in Gaza.
surveillance of Israeli traffic through the Suez Canal. An Egyptian police investigation also revealed the flow of al-Qaeda funds from Gaza to Egypt.


And note this training is by the "moderate" PA.

653 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:41:56am

re: #647 midwestgak

He still looked like a normal human being during that period. What motivates someone to ruin a perfectly good face?

The lib I commute with tried to tell me his bleached skin was the result of medication he took after getting burned in the Pepsi commercial mishap. No kidding.

654 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:42:21am

re: #609 legalpad

Gotta do it in the evening most of the time with classes of any kind. But I wouldn't if I had gang's sleep issues. I can work out, have some coffee and crash under most circumstances.

My Kung Fu training is always in the evening, sometimes the kickboxing goes until 9:30. Interestingly enough, on those nights I do sleep better. Go figga ...

655 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:42:27am

re: #644 Gang of One

I thought I heard someone or something asking for a cheezburger ...

Coming right up!


656 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:42:30am

re: #639 J.D.

"But if we had done nothing, there wouldn't be any recovery at all at this point! Businesses would have toppled like a house of cards and people would literally be selling apples on the corner!"

/and they don't mean them newfangled iPhones either.

657 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:42:58am

re: #653 turn

The lib I commute with tried to tell me his bleached skin was the result of medication he took after getting burned in the Pepsi commercial mishap. No kidding.

And was his nose burned off as well?

658 KenJen  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:43:17am

re: #647 midwestgak

He still looked like a normal human being during that period. What motivates someone to ruin a perfectly good face?

I'm sure a tell-all book is in the works.

659 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:43:26am

re: #647 midwestgak

He still looked like a normal human being during that period. What motivates someone to ruin a perfectly good face?

Malignant narcissism turned inwards?

660 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:43:39am

re: #657 redstateredneck

And was his nose burned off as well?

ha, that is almost exactly what I said!

661 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:43:46am

re: #653 turn

The lib I commute with tried to tell me his bleached skin was the result of medication he took after getting burned in the Pepsi commercial mishap. No kidding.

I once knew a girl who had the same thing MJ had. She went from white to whiter. Blotches every where on her.

662 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:43:49am

re: #634 Kosh's Shadow

now THAT was funny!...I booked it

663 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:44:17am

re: #639 J.D.
Hi ya {J.D.} - thanks for the comment and link! Hope you're doing well today!

664 SixDegrees  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:44:19am

re: #659 MandyManners

Malignant narcissism turned inwards?

Just the opposite of narcissim if it was self-inflicted; more like extreme self loathing.

665 J.D.  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:45:01am

re: #656 laZardo

Damn.
And apples are out of season.

666 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:45:24am

re: #659 MandyManners

Malignant narcissism turned inwards?

He was his own Portrait of Dorian Grey.

667 Eowyn2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:45:28am

re: #580 3 wood

In Tour de France news, surprising the daylights out of me is Lance Armstrong in 3rd place. with a strong showing in today's team time trial, Armstrong can assume the yellow jersey.

If he does so, look for him to give it up the next day so he and his team does not get worn out protecting it for the next week or so.

I'm still not sure Armstrong can keep it up every day, but time will tell.

How's Levi Leipheimer doing?

668 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:45:29am

Lots of MJ before and after at Awful Plastic Surgery. Sad.

669 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:45:33am

re: #654 Gang of One

My Kung Fu training is always in the evening, sometimes the kickboxing goes until 9:30. Interestingly enough, on those nights I do sleep better. Go figga ...

My gym offers Krav and fitness classes during the day, but if I went during work, by the time I got there, took the class and got back, it would take almost 2 hours. I've only done after work and Saturday classes there.

670 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:46:09am

re: #626 turn

Don't know that I believe the interpretations given. But teeth dreams do occur.

671 turn  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:46:13am

re: #661 Cannadian Club Akbar

I once knew a girl who had the same thing MJ had. She went from white to whiter. Blotches every where on her.

I'm positive that in MJ's case it was intentional, no disease.

bbl - this annoying thing work

672 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:46:16am

when linns are disabled, dbl click to Youtube

673 ggt  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:47:27am

Good Morning Lizards! It's bright in the Very Far Western Suburbs this morning.

I slept thru the fruitcup. Was it tasty?

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

674 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:47:32am

re: #654 Gang of One

Yes, but does it include the kung fu grip?

675 J.D.  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:47:41am

re: #663 realwest

{real} I have already been to the dermatologist and answered the sunscreen questions correctly... passed the test!
Hope you and your Mom are good!

676 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:47:50am

re: #664 SixDegrees

Just the opposite of narcissim if it was self-inflicted; more like extreme self loathing.

Yes, that's how it seemed to me, as I look at photos of the changes throughout the years.

Though his own self was perfectly acceptable, he seemed to want to be somebody else.

I have no patience for the glorification of Michael Jackson, but it seems to me he had a sad, miserable, empty life, and he didn't have to.

677 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:47:51am

re: #641 SixDegrees

Even as a private citizen, libel cases are exceptionally difficult to prove. You have to prove that the person knowingly lied, and did so with malicious intent. Not an easy thing to do.


OR, published it with a reckless disregard for whether or not it was the truth.
Methinks that Alaska blogger is in for some rough sledding ahead. If nothing else, having signed what's been reported as a $12,000,000 book deal, Palin can a) get out of debt and b) make her attackers pay legal fees out of THEIR pockerts for a change.
Payback can be a BITCH.

678 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:48:58am
679 J.D.  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:49:28am

re: #676 reine.de.tout

Did you see that he cut his father out of the will?
He could have used some therapy to deal with whatever problems arose from that relationship. Who knows? Maybe he got some but still couldn't surmount it.

680 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:49:46am

re: #653 turn

The lib I commute with tried to tell me his bleached skin was the result of medication he took after getting burned in the Pepsi commercial mishap. No kidding.

Medication is the reason Walter has an arm growing out of his back./

681 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:49:57am

re: #678 buzzsawmonkey

Oh, I don't know. Would it be worse to have someone who would be an ineffectual caretaker that would not have the leverage to ram sweeping social reorganizations through Congress, and who would not be attended by an adoring media that scattered rose petals in his path--or would it be worse to have someone who does have that leverage, and that adoration without scrutiny?

My answer would be "yes" to each of those questions.
Either option is awful.

682 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:50:00am

re: #674 lawhawk

Yes, but does it include the kung fu grip?

ROTFLMAO.

Walmart had "old-style" GI Joes with KFG in original-type packaging last summer. I bought the whole set.

683 KenJen  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:50:16am

re: #676 reine.de.tout

Yes, that's how it seemed to me, as I look at photos of the changes throughout the years.

Though his own self was perfectly acceptable, he seemed to want to be somebody else.

I have no patience for the glorification of Michael Jackson, but it seems to me he had a sad, miserable, empty life, and he didn't have to.

I really think he wanted to look white. Look at his children. They are all white. Why didn't he adopt black children?

684 Gang of One  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:50:37am

BBIAB

685 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:51:09am

re: #668 scottishbuzzsaw
wasn't most of that plastic surgery done during his "I want to look like Dianna Ross" phase!

686 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:51:19am

re: #653 turn

OR WAS IT?

/ is it still too soon?

687 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:51:36am

re: #681 reine.de.tout

My answer would be "yes" to each of those questions.
Either option is awful.

No, I would go for #1. Dolph Briscoe was the best governor Texas ever had, IMO. No one can ever tell you one thing he "did".

688 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:52:08am

re: #683 KenJen

I really think he wanted to look white. Look at his children. They are all white. Why didn't he adopt black children?

Madonna got there first.

689 kansas  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:52:50am

re: #632 Iron Fist

When Obama picked Biden, I thought the election was over. He is such an awful pick that I could only presume that Obama had offered the spot to other, more promising candidates (like Hillary) and been turned down. Well, so much for that theory.

Biden brought nothing to the table. Anyone that considered him some kind of foreign policy guru didn't pay much attention to his record in the senate. And he surely didn't bring the votes. He got, what, 2000 votes in the Iowa Primary? Hell, I might could get that many votes, simply as the anti-establishment candidate.

One thing is certain about biden: he ensures that people like me, who dislike Obama, are nonetheless praying that he have a long, healthy life. The thought of a Biden Presidency is a terrible thing.

Except it turns out that Obama seems to be the antithesis of being the American President instead being the lackey for all things international. Would it surprise anything if he showed up in front of a flag with a Crescent on it? You tell us one thing he has done that has strengthened this country in any way. Everything he does seems to be to weaken the country even to the point of trying to bankrupt it.

690 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:52:56am

re: #680 midwestgak

Medication is the reason Walter has an arm growing out of his back./

Don't laugh - he can sit around scratching his ass all day AND work.

/

691 legalpad  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:53:19am

re: #640 Gang of One

I was in Mexico, D.F., working with my family in textiles, then took a year off to pursue music -- played with ex-founder of Mana drummer Abraham Calleros. That was not going anywhere so I got a job with an international freight-forwarder then did a stint on a English-language daily newspaper. From there had a dot-com with a cousin [it folded] and went back to newspaper. Newspaper folded and went to work for other forwarders and came home on September 9, 2002.

OK, that's gotta be different. It depends on your lifestyle there. Some musicians have late night habits, and drugs, booze, marijuana, etc. All this can mess up sleep, health, etc. By the way, walking daily may be the way to go until you drop about 10 pounds. Running with too much weight can hammer your knees. It's also good for you emotionally. Ideally, see a doctor, and maybe a personal trainer.

692 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:53:21am
693 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:53:37am

re: #685 realwest

wasn't most of that plastic surgery done during his "I want to look like Dianna Ross" phase!

"Ain't no rhinoplasty high enough!"

694 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:53:37am

re: #688 Cannadian Club Akbar

Madonna got there first.

Bleccchh. Hey Madonna, there are poor, unadopted kids in the US, too.

/then again, maybe it's better this way

695 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:53:39am

re: #675 J.D.

{real} I have already been to the dermatologist and answered the sunscreen questions correctly... passed the test!
Hope you and your Mom are good!


YEA J.D.! Mom and I are doing ok, but I'm off for the dentist today again for either an impression for a permanent crown, a root canal on a different tooth or both (if I get lucky!). Thanks for asking!

696 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:53:51am

re: #642 Kosh's Shadow

See if this link works better. Try right-clicking and "open in a new window"

Yep!

697 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:54:32am

Medved/Putin: So tavarich, what about Israel?
Obama: Meh.
M/P: And what about reducing your nukes?
O: Okeedokee.
M/P: And will you allow Iran to acquire nukes?
O: Nooo problemo.
M/P: Dah?
O: Dah.
M/P: S'alright?
O: S'alright.

698 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:54:44am

re: #682 OldLineTexan

When we were kids, me and my brother had an original GI Joe, Evil Keneval and the Six Million Dollar Man.

699 J.D.  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:55:07am

Looks as though someone at the Pittsburgh paper is not an Obama fan.
How refreshing.
Obama's mythography: An Orwellian disaster

President Barack Obama's Orwellian rhetoric has become absolutely pathological. And it's become so blatant that you can almost guarantee that the truth is the exact opposite of what he says. To wit:

The president insisted he had no intention of taking over Chrysler and General Motors.

He did.

The president calls "cap-and-trade" environmental legislation a "market-based" approach, based on "sound science."

It is not.

The president claims his health care reform plan is not "socialized medicine."

It is.

He claims it won't harm private insurance.

It will.

He claims service won't be rationed.

But to control costs as he proposes, it must be. (Even top aides concede the point.)

Mr. Obama says he supports "democracy" in Latin America.

How can he? He also supports the Marxist ways of Manuel Zelaya, legally removed from Honduras' presidency by the constitutional actions of the legislative and judicial branches.

And the examples of this president's mythography go on and on.

Some will dismiss Barack Obama's pronouncements merely as "rhetoric" and "posturing." "Everybody does it," they'll say. "It's politics."

But this is different and decidedly more dangerous: The president of the United States says one thing and does another and claims things that cannot possibly be.

Whether by delusion or by design, Barack Obama is being dishonest with the American people. And that is a harbinger of national disaster.


Agree
Agree
Agree
Agree
...

700 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:55:09am

re: #683 KenJen

I really think he wanted to look white. Look at his children. They are all white. Why didn't he adopt black children?

I saw, a couple of years ago, an interesting (and very un-PC) TV show about plastic surgery. One of the points made in that show was that for non-whites in this country, they ask for surgery that will get rid of their ethnic features (eyes, nose, mouth, whatever) and will ask for something that will create a more "white" looking feature in its place. One of the examples was a young man who was Chinese, who had had several surgeries on his yes to remove the asian features.

I just can't imagine why someone would want to get rid of the very things that make them unique. It's beyond my ability to understand.

701 legalpad  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:55:37am

re: #654 Gang of One

My Kung Fu training is always in the evening, sometimes the kickboxing goes until 9:30. Interestingly enough, on those nights I do sleep better. Go figga ...

OK, I'd say keep that up then! Maybe do something like that every night! We're all different. Try stuff until you find that combination that works.

702 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:56:24am

re: #687 OldLineTexan

No, I would go for #1. Dolph Briscoe was the best governor Texas ever had, IMO. No one can ever tell you one thing he "did".

I would agree at a state level.
But this is at the federal level, where weakness may invite attacks.

703 J.D.  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:56:54am

re: #695 realwest

Sounds delightful!
/

Good luck to you. I hope they can go with the easiest and least painful option!

704 realwest  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:57:06am

Well y'all I gotta go now - doctor's kids tution for next semester's college is coming due soon, doncha know!
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

705 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:57:40am

re: #702 reine.de.tout

I would agree at a state level.
But this is at the federal level, where weakness may invite attacks.

Is a "caretaker" necessarily weak?

We had utter gridlock in the Congress for decades ... while we missed several shining opportunities, we also avoided lots of pitfalls.

706 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:58:50am

Oh goody...

Jackson's body will be at memorial

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Does the media really understand how weird this headline reads?

707 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:59:45am

Dear Amy: Recently, my fiance, "Timothy," and I decided mutually and amicably that we were not right for each other.

However, the date of the wedding was looming, and we had arranged and paid for it entirely on our own without assistance from relatives.

We decided to go ahead with the wedding despite our feelings toward each other, but we did not tell our families or friends how we felt because we want to keep our issues private.

A week later, we got the marriage annulled.

My uncle, who gave us an expensive breadmaker as a wedding gift, became very irate when we annulled the marriage.

He left long and obscene messages on my phone and on Timothy's phone, saying he wants the breadmaker back.

Timothy and I already divided the gifts between us, and he has the breadmaker and does not want to relinquish it.

We feel as though we threw an expensive party for our friends and families and, even though we are not together anymore, we deserve the gifts as reparation.

This is causing a lot of tension in my family. How can I defrost the chilly atmosphere the next time I see my uncle?

SNIP

708 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:59:52am

re: #706 Walter L. Newton

Oh goody...

Jackson's body will be at memorial

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Does the media really understand how weird this headline reads?

They should just bring the wax MJ from Fwance. Only 10% chemical difference.

/

709 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:01:01am

re: #705 OldLineTexan

Is a "caretaker" necessarily weak?

We had utter gridlock in the Congress for decades ... while we missed several shining opportunities, we also avoided lots of pitfalls.

You have a point.
"Caretaker" is not necessarily weak.
But in the case of Biden . . .

I think Congress should meet once every two years. If there are no issues to deal with during a given time, they seem to try to make themselves busy with silly and dangerous stuff. They need some time off.

710 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:01:08am

re: #706 Walter L. Newton

I bet the fans swarm the limo and literally devour the body.

711 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:01:28am

re: #707 MandyManners

Dear Amy: Recently, my fiance, "Timothy," and I decided mutually and amicably that we were not right for each other.

However, the date of the wedding was looming, and we had arranged and paid for it entirely on our own without assistance from relatives.

We decided to go ahead with the wedding despite our feelings toward each other, but we did not tell our families or friends how we felt because we want to keep our issues private.

A week later, we got the marriage annulled.

My uncle, who gave us an expensive breadmaker as a wedding gift, became very irate when we annulled the marriage.

He left long and obscene messages on my phone and on Timothy's phone, saying he wants the breadmaker back.

Timothy and I already divided the gifts between us, and he has the breadmaker and does not want to relinquish it.

We feel as though we threw an expensive party for our friends and families and, even though we are not together anymore, we deserve the gifts as reparation.

This is causing a lot of tension in my family. How can I defrost the chilly atmosphere the next time I see my uncle?

SNIP

SHOOT HIM. *whack*
///

712 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:01:49am

I hope Charles creates a Michael Jackson-FREE thread, and another one to discuss MJ.
Thus, those of us who got tired hearing about him about 30 seconds after his death, except for jokes about him, and those who want to discuss the King of Pop Freak, can pick their threads.

713 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:02:06am

re: #707 MandyManners

Dear Single: Your selfishness and cowardice have made a mockery of marriage, and now your greed is making a mockery of the generosity of your friends and families.

There is probably not much sense in throwing a little etiquette lesson your way at this late date, but let me try. In this case, substitute the phrase "common decency" for "etiquette"

Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark...Hopefully.

714 kansas  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:02:22am

re: #707 MandyManners
re: #707 MandyManners

Dear Amy: Recently, my fiance, "Timothy," and I decided mutually and amicably that we were not right for each other.

However, the date of the wedding was looming, and we had arranged and paid for it entirely on our own without assistance from relatives.

We decided to go ahead with the wedding despite our feelings toward each other, but we did not tell our families or friends how we felt because we want to keep our issues private.

A week later, we got the marriage annulled.

My uncle, who gave us an expensive breadmaker as a wedding gift, became very irate when we annulled the marriage.

He left long and obscene messages on my phone and on Timothy's phone, saying he wants the breadmaker back.

Timothy and I already divided the gifts between us, and he has the breadmaker and does not want to relinquish it.

We feel as though we threw an expensive party for our friends and families and, even though we are not together anymore, we deserve the gifts as reparation.

This is causing a lot of tension in my family. How can I defrost the chilly atmosphere the next time I see my uncle?

SNIP

Dear SNIP,

Buy him a breadmaker, then go get your tubes tied.

Amy

715 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:03:16am

re: #710 Mad Al-Jaffee

I bet the fans swarm the limo and literally devour the body.

The fans are expecting the body to be resurrected and bring peace to the world, and joy to all the little boys.
/

716 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:03:31am

re: #710 Mad Al-Jaffee

I bet the fans swarm the limo and literally devour the body.

WAIT... WAIT... something just struck me. ISN'T MICHAEL JACKSON A MUSLIM? Shouldn't he have been buried already? Some Muslims make a big show out of someone's death, but it is a hasty thing, not predicated on a long public process like this thing in L.A.

Inquiring minds wants to know.

717 ggt  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:03:32am

re: #668 scottishbuzzsaw

Lots of MJ before and after at Awful Plastic Surgery. Sad.

That was a disturbing site.

718 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:03:56am

On Obama's nuclear weapons policy:

“We tried the unilateral way, in the Bush years, and it didn’t work,” a senior administration official said recently. “What we are trying is a fundamental change, a different view that says our security can be enhanced by arms control. There was a view for the past few years that treaties only constrained the good actors and not the bad actors.”

Wow. There is so much that is dead wrong in that small paragraph.

First: Bush consistently pursued nuclear disarmament through multi-lateral negotiations. With North Korea it was the Six Party Talks. With Iran it was through European partners including Russia. What past unilateralism is he referring to? What about Obama's pledge to hold direct talks with both those regimes without precondition? That sure sounds like unilateralism to me, isn't it?

Secondly, the treaties the Clinton administrations signed with North Korea, a "bad actor" if there ever was one, spectacularly failed to constrain them. Iran is similarly unconstrained by the ongoing multilateral discussions.

Thirdly, could Obama please explain how on earth a nuclear reduction treaty with Russia will constrain either Iran or North Korea? Does Obama seriously expect us to believe that his candy-ass Pollyanna act will some how shame Iran's mullahs or the North Korean generals into giving up their nuclear ambitions?

What universe do Obama & his advisers live in?

719 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:04:01am

re: #710 Mad Al-Jaffee

I bet the fans swarm the limo and literally devour the body.


This isn't Iran.
/

720 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:04:02am

re: #699 J.D.

The president insisted he had no intention of taking over Chrysler and General Motors.

He did.

The president calls "cap-and-trade" environmental legislation a "market-based" approach, based on "sound science."

It is not.

The president claims his health care reform plan is not "socialized medicine."

It is.

He claims it won't harm private insurance.

It will.

He claims service won't be rationed.

But to control costs as he proposes, it must be. (Even top aides concede the point.)

Mr. Obama says he supports "democracy" in Latin America.

...

It's better than letting all those people in those depressed areas lose their jobs and turn their areas into even worse slums than they are now!

You won't be complaining when your house ends up on the wrong side of the coastal property line after a couple of decades!

After how private insurance has been profiting off slow deaths for years, it's time someone really cared!

Zelaya only wanted to have a democratic vote, instead it's become 2000 all over again!

/DO YOU WANT BUSH BACK!

//read both of Orwell's greats, unfortunately...I can also speak the moonbat quite fluently.

721 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:04:16am

re: #712 Kosh's Shadow

I hope Charles creates a Michael Jackson-FREE thread, and another one to discuss MJ.
Thus, those of us who got tired hearing about him about 30 seconds after his death, except for jokes about him, and those who want to discuss the King of Pop Freak, can pick their threads.

I disregard anything positive about and don't care what anybody thinks...he' a crackpot ped...he should have been incarcerated

722 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:04:26am

re: #715 Kosh's Shadow

The fans are expecting the body to be resurrected and bring peace to the world, and joy to all the little boys.
/

Odd, I heard on the radio this morning that his is being buried (in a 24 carat gold platted coffin) before the memorial.

723 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:04:31am

re: #700 reine.de.tout

It's interesting that people don't get surgery to look more black or asian etc.

Though it is common these days and seemingly more acceptable, why do some men want to be women and some women and to be men? I can't comprehend that either. I don't care how unPC that opinion is.

724 KenJen  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:05:08am

re: #714 kansas

I was in the Goodwill yesterday. There must have been 15 bread makers. Most new in boxes.

725 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:05:43am

re: #716 Walter L. Newton

WAIT... WAIT... something just struck me. ISN'T MICHAEL JACKSON A MUSLIM? Shouldn't he have been buried already? Some Muslims make a big show out of someone's death, but it is a hasty thing, not predicated on a long public process like this thing in L.A.

Inquiring minds wants to know.

it is the will of Allah

726 John Neverbend  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:05:48am

re: #471 bloodnok

Thanks! I certainly wish someone would release Q on DVD. Even if they did I suspect I couldn't find a copy here in the states, but from what I hear it was excellent.

You'll find a few more clips on Youtube. There was was Q5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 and "There's a lot of it about" (effectively Q10).

Look at DVD

727 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:06:19am

re: #723 midwestgak

It's interesting that people don't get surgery to look more black or asian etc.

Though it is common these days and seemingly more acceptable, why do some men want to be women and some women and to be men? I can't comprehend that either. I don't care how unPC that opinion is.

Maybe because they want to have babies, like Stan/Loretta, here?

728 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:06:37am

re: #717 ggt

That was a disturbing site.

The stuff of nightmares. So often pretty women turn themselves into grotesques through multiple procedures...how can they not see what they've done to themselves? I do not understand.

729 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:06:41am

re: #707 MandyManners

Dear Tim's Ex-Fiancee,

You and Tim represent everything about American culture that I find repugnant. Please consider spending your honeymoon savings on having both of you sterilized. Personally, I would rather Britney Spears bore more children than to see you two reproduce. Buy your uncle a breadmaker (have it delivered) and let us never speak of this again.

Amy

/

730 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:06:57am

re: #706 Walter L. Newton

Oh goody...

Jackson's body will be at memorial

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Does the media really understand how weird this headline reads?

Here's an open ended question. What does MJ and Staples have in common?

731 legalpad  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:07:23am

re: #707 MandyManners

Sounds like Amy covered it except for, "'Single', you are crazier than shit."

732 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:07:47am

re: #730 midwestgak

Here's an open ended question. What does MJ and Staples have in common?

RESET!

733 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:07:59am

re: #723 midwestgak

It's interesting that people don't get surgery to look more black or asian etc.

/best comedy of last year IMO

734 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:08:12am

re: #710 Mad Al-Jaffee

I bet the fans swarm the limo and literally devour the body.

Apparently, MJ brain has been removed already.

735 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:09:00am

re: #734 midwestgak

Apparently, MJ brain has been removed already.

Well then, the zombies won't have anything to eat.

736 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:09:19am

re: #728 scottishbuzzsaw

I've seen some pictures of a woman who is using cosmetic surgery to turn herself into a cat and some of a guy who is turning himself into a lizard (not one of us.)

737 ggt  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:09:33am

re: #716 Walter L. Newton

WAIT... WAIT... something just struck me. ISN'T MICHAEL JACKSON A MUSLIM? Shouldn't he have been buried already? Some Muslims make a big show out of someone's death, but it is a hasty thing, not predicated on a long public process like this thing in L.A.

Inquiring minds wants to know.

bbbut, there is alot of money involved . . .

738 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:09:46am

re: #709 reine.de.tout

You have a point.
"Caretaker" is not necessarily weak.
But in the case of Biden . . .

I think Congress should meet once every two years. If there are no issues to deal with during a given time, they seem to try to make themselves busy with silly and dangerous stuff. They need some time off.

Andrew Johnson was a caretaker President, and reconstruction was a mess.

Harry Truman was a caretaker President, and turned out to be one of our more revered Presidents.

Joe Biden is no Harry Truman. But then, neither is Obama.

739 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:09:53am

Least we let all this MJ stuff get in the way of real news, "Bruno" opens Friday.

740 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:10:04am

re: #718 Kenneth

You've hit the nail on the head. Obama's policy re: nuclear weapons is spectacularly inane and amateurish, to say nothing of grossly incompetent. It reeks of weakness and shows a fundamental lack of understanding of international relations and foreign policy and national security.

He's too busy trying to "make friends" when our enemies see this as weakness to be exploited. There's no reason for North Korea to curtail its nuclear program under this because they see that there's nothing the US is going to do to stop them. Iran sees this, and laughs as their centrifuges spin. They see that the US isn't going to deploy missile defense, which could protect Europe from the very missiles that Iran and North Korea are busy working on.

741 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:10:33am

re: #710 Mad Al-Jaffee

I bet the fans swarm the limo and literally devour the body.

Limo swarm?

742 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:10:37am

re: #729 OldLineTexan

Dear Tim's Ex-Fiancee,

You and Tim represent everything about American culture that I find repugnant. Please consider spending your honeymoon savings on having both of you sterilized. Personally, I would rather Britney Spears bore more children than to see you two reproduce. Buy your uncle a breadmaker (have it delivered) and let us never speak of this again.

Amy

/

DINGDINGDING!

743 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:10:47am

re: #700 reine.de.tout

just can't imagine why someone would want to get rid of the very things that make them unique. It's beyond my ability to understand.


Cher is another good example of that.

744 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:10:57am

re: #735 Kosh's Shadow

Well then, the zombies won't have anything to eat.

You know, it's only in Return of the Living Dead where zombies eat brains. In pretty much every other zombie movie, they eat flesh.

745 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:11:05am

re: #738 Son of the Black Dog

Andrew Johnson was a caretaker President, and reconstruction was a mess.

Harry Truman was a caretaker President, and turned out to be one of our more revered Presidents.

Joe Biden is no Harry Truman. But then, neither is Obama.

Dwight D. Eisenhower was a...um...

I think he left something more of a legacy than the country's most famous historical political slogan, but I'm not sure.

746 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:11:24am

re: #730 midwestgak

Here's an open ended question. What does MJ and Staples have in common?

Nobody in there has a brain in their head?

747 Shug  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:11:27am

This made me laugh.
Drudge does have a way with words...from his current page

4:15 AM: OBAMA SAYS FUTURE DOES NOT BELONG TO THOSE WHO GATHER ARMIES OR PLANT MISSILES...
7:45 AM: Suspected US missiles hit militants...

heh

748 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:11:28am

re: #714 kansas

re: #707 MandyManners

Dear SNIP,

Buy him a breadmaker, then go get your tubes tied.

Amy

Even better is one of the follow up questions:

Dear Amy: Today, while playing golf, one of the people I was playing with told an extremely offensive racial joke about our president, who is my hero.

I could not believe this man would have the audacity to say such a thing.

After remaining silent for 30 seconds, I finally said, "I don't want to hear that again."

It made me so angry I almost lost the match.

Did I do the right thing? Did this man think it was OK to say something like that because we were all white? Should I have kept my mouth shut?

-- Ryan

Dear Ryan,

I agree that attacking race is very much the wrong thing to do, and is never acceptable in any circumstance. However, your choice in heroes is disturbing, because he's worse than Carter. Look for a better hero and be happy.

--MrSilverDragon (not Amy)

749 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:11:38am

re: #736 Mad Al-Jaffee

I've seen some pictures of a woman who is using cosmetic surgery to turn herself into a cat and some of a guy who is turning himself into a lizard (not one of us.)

I've seen the Cat Woman...did you see her 'before' shot? She was lovely.

750 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:11:39am

re: #744 Mad Al-Jaffee

You know, it's only in Return of the Living Dead where zombies eat brains. In pretty much every other zombie movie, they eat flesh.

I didn't know that, but then, I haven't really watched zombie movies.

751 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:12:04am

re: #706 Walter L. Newton

Oh goody...

Jackson's body will be at memorial

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Does the media really understand how weird this headline reads?

He should have done a dead tour like James Brown.

752 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:12:08am

re: #707 MandyManners

Dear Niece:
Nicely done!
Suggest you continue the fraud. Tell your uncle and other assorted suckers that you are pregnant and invite them to a baby-shower.

Amy

753 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:12:34am

re: #723 midwestgak

It's interesting that people don't get surgery to look more black or asian etc.

Though it is common these days and seemingly more acceptable, why do some men want to be women and some women and to be men? I can't comprehend that either. I don't care how unPC that opinion is.

The idea was that in this country, "white" is the standard of beauty people aspire to. There was one black woman on the show who had her nose narrowed - when I saw the "before" photo, I just couldn't believe she wanted anything done. She was just lovely, her appearance had a very definite ethnic exotic look. I can't imagine how she wasn't happy with it.

I do think some people are born with gender confusion - whether it's hormones or whatever, it's very sad and it must be very disorienting and confusing.

However, I think people who seek the solution to their confusion in surgery are seeking an answer in the wrong place. Although mental and emotional therapy is wonderful and can do a lot of good, in the end, the answer to not liking oneself isn't MORE "me me me me me", but lies in looking outward toward others, imo.

754 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:12:41am

re: #751 redstateredneck

He should have done a dead tour like James Brown.

What were James Brown's last words?
"I (don't) feel good"

755 ggt  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:12:51am

Have a great morning all!

756 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:13:12am

re: #747 Shug

This made me laugh.
Drudge does have a way with words...from his current page


heh

PLANT MISSILES...
Enviro friendly nukes!

757 Shug  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:13:27am

re: #739 Walter L. Newton

Least we let all this MJ stuff get in the way of real news, "Bruno" opens Friday.


Can't wait.

Hey walter, wanna babysit for us so we can see it?

758 SummerSong  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:13:31am

re: #683 KenJen

I really think he wanted to look white. Look at his children. They are all white. Why didn't he adopt black children?

Speaking of his children - Why go to the trouble of artificially inseminating
the woman if it wasn't his DNA? Why not just adopt? Odd.

759 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:13:35am

re: #718 Kenneth

... What universe do Obama & his advisers live in?

Never-never land?

760 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:13:37am

re: #736 Mad Al-Jaffee

I've seen some pictures of a woman who is using cosmetic surgery to turn herself into a cat and some of a guy who is turning himself into a lizard (not one of us.)

I've seen that woman!
She looks awful, simply awful.
More money than sense.

761 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:13:56am

re: #750 Kosh's Shadow

You need to see the original Night of the Living Dead, Dawn of the Dead and Day of the Dead. Also, read the book World War Z.

762 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:14:41am

re: #753 reine.de.tout

The idea was that in this country, "white" is the standard of beauty people aspire to. There was one black woman on the show who had her nose narrowed - when I saw the "before" photo, I just couldn't believe she wanted anything done. She was just lovely, her appearance had a very definite ethnic exotic look. I can't imagine how she wasn't happy with it.

However, I think people who seek the solution to their confusion in surgery are seeking an answer in the wrong place. Although mental and emotional therapy is wonderful and can do a lot of good, in the end, the answer to not liking oneself isn't MORE "me me me me me", but lies in looking outward toward others, imo.

That reminds me of the beauty standard here in "the P.I."

Case in point, local celebrity Jinky Oda.

763 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:14:51am

re: #754 Kosh's Shadow

What were James Brown's last words?
"I (don't) feel good"

ROTFLMAO!

764 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:15:06am

re: #747 Shug

This made me laugh.
Drudge does have a way with words...from his current page

heh

Plant them? The future belongs to those who fire them.

765 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:15:10am

re: #754 Kosh's Shadow

What were James Brown's last words?
"I (don't) feel good"

"OW!"

766 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:15:37am

re: #757 Shug

Can't wait.

Hey walter, wanna babysit for us so we can see it?

Probably. I am going to have to wait until sometime during the week to see it, since I am busy at the theatre.

767 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:15:42am

re: #727 Kosh's Shadow

Maybe because they want to have babies, like Stan/Loretta, here?

[Video]

LOL . . . The woman says to the man who wants to have babies, "You don't have a womb. That's not your fault, not even the Romans."

768 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:15:44am

re: #759 Son of the Black Dog

Never-never land?

There is a specific ranch for people like that. I think it might even be for sale./

769 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:15:47am

re: #754 Kosh's Shadow

What were James Brown's last words?
"I (don't) feel good"

"I feel dead...woooah!"

770 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:16:02am

re: #743 redstateredneck

Cher is another good example of that.

Yes she is.

771 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:16:25am

re: #767 midwestgak

LOL . . . The woman says to the man who wants to have babies, "You don't have a womb. That's not your fault, not even the Romans."


"Don't you oppress me!"

772 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:16:57am

re: #728 scottishbuzzsaw

The stuff of nightmares. So often pretty women turn themselves into grotesques through multiple procedures...how can they not see what they've done to themselves? I do not understand.

I bet you have an eye for those body building types./// arg

773 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:17:25am

My wife got really pissed at me last night. I said that Michael Jackson has been dead for 12 days and "why don't they just f*ing bury him already?" Her eyes blazed with anger and she practically yelled "why are you taking this so personally?" I said I wasn't, but that coverage of this story is so out of proportion to its importance that REAL news has not been covered for quite some time. Usually people who die are buried within a few days, even if they have two autopsies as Jackson did. This spectacle, abetted by his family and the media is beyond excessive. Does anyone else share this frustration?

774 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:18:01am

re: #739 Walter L. Newton

I thought Borat was incredibly overrated, and not very funny. I love the character, and he was brilliand on Da Ali G Show, but it just didn't work on the movie. So I don't have high hopes for Bruno, but I'll at least see it on dvd.

775 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:18:44am

re: #760 reine.de.tout

I've seen that woman!
She looks awful, simply awful.
More money than sense.

If you are talking about JOCELYN WILDENSTEIN, from what I have read, she isn't trying to make herself look like a cat, she is a prime example of overindulgence in plastic surgery and the horrors of what could go wrong.

[Link: beaut.ie...]

She is not trying to look like a cat.

776 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:18:53am

re: #773 _RememberTonyC

What frustrates me is the huge media event that they're calling a memorial service. 1,400 extra cops have to be on duty. The Jackson family should foot the bill.

777 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:18:59am
778 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:19:36am

re: #773 _RememberTonyC

My wife got really pissed at me last night. I said that Michael Jackson has been dead for 12 days and "why don't they just f*ing bury him already?" Her eyes blazed with anger and she practically yelled "why are you taking this so personally?" I said I wasn't, but that coverage of this story is so out of proportion to its importance that REAL news has not been covered for quite some time. Usually people who die are buried within a few days, even if they have two autopsies as Jackson did. This spectacle, abetted by his family and the media is beyond excessive. Does anyone else share this frustration?

Yes. It is waaayyy over the top. The freak was a ped that could sing and that's how I'll remember him.

779 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:20:19am

re: #773 _RememberTonyC

My wife got really pissed at me last night. I said that Michael Jackson has been dead for 12 days and "why don't they just f*ing bury him already?" Her eyes blazed with anger and she practically yelled "why are you taking this so personally?" I said I wasn't, but that coverage of this story is so out of proportion to its importance that REAL news has not been covered for quite some time. Usually people who die are buried within a few days, even if they have two autopsies as Jackson did. This spectacle, abetted by his family and the media is beyond excessive. Does anyone else share this frustration?

My wife watches "E!" incessantly and wants to pass on the more interesting tidbits. It is maddening, but I am holding it together. I just think about Captain Kangaroo. He spent thirty years tied to a contract that caused him to have a state orphanage haircut and play with ping-pong balls. But he kept it together. Unlike Mr. Greenjeans.

/

780 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:20:27am

re: #778 VegasRick

The freak was a ped that could sing .


That may be rotating title worthy.

781 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:20:39am

re: #745 laZardo

Dwight D. Eisenhower ...

Ike only gave us 8 years of peace and prosperity. Then we got LBJ.

782 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:21:01am

re: #773 _RememberTonyC

My wife got really pissed at me last night. I said that Michael Jackson has been dead for 12 days and "why don't they just f*ing bury him already?" Her eyes blazed with anger and she practically yelled "why are you taking this so personally?" I said I wasn't, but that coverage of this story is so out of proportion to its importance that REAL news has not been covered for quite some time. Usually people who die are buried within a few days, even if they have two autopsies as Jackson did. This spectacle, abetted by his family and the media is beyond excessive. Does anyone else share this frustration?

no...I could care less

783 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:21:07am

re: #775 Walter L. Newton

If you are talking about JOCELYN WILDENSTEIN, from what I have read, she isn't trying to make herself look like a cat, she is a prime example of overindulgence in plastic surgery and the horrors of what could go wrong.

[Link: beaut.ie...]

She is not trying to look like a cat.

That's who I'm talking about.
What's the matter with her?
Why has she done that to herself?
Does she think she looks great?

784 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:21:10am

re: #773 _RememberTonyC

It pisses me off, but I also find it fascinating. It's amazing how people can worship a celebrity, especially one as freakish as Jackson.

785 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:21:21am

re: #774 Mad Al-Jaffee

I thought Borat was incredibly overrated, and not very funny. I love the character, and he was brilliand on Da Ali G Show, but it just didn't work on the movie. So I don't have high hopes for Bruno, but I'll at least see it on dvd.

And considering the publics "love" of political correctness, I found Borat to be wonderful. It was a pleasure sitting in the theater watching people cringe at his antics.

Bring it on. He is a very smart social satirist.

786 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:21:24am

re: #775 Walter L. Newton

If you are talking about JOCELYN WILDENSTEIN, from what I have read, she isn't trying to make herself look like a cat, she is a prime example of overindulgence in plastic surgery and the horrors of what could go wrong.

[Link: beaut.ie...]

She is not trying to look like a cat.

OTOH, Lizard Man was intentional.

787 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:21:49am

re: #773 _RememberTonyC

Well, it is keeping Obama from making another midday press conference or a nighttime presser. /thank goodness for some benefits to the MJ 24/7 coverage. ///

788 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:22:02am

re: #779 OldLineTexan

My wife watches "E!" incessantly and wants to pass on the more interesting tidbits. It is maddening, but I am holding it together. I just think about Captain Kangaroo. He spent thirty years tied to a contract that caused him to have a state orphanage haircut and play with ping-pong balls. But he kept it together. Unlike Mr. Greenjeans.

/


yeah, and Bunny Rabbit was the only member of his species to never reproduce.

789 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:22:03am

re: #784 Mad Al-Jaffee

It pisses me off, but I also find it fascinating. It's amazing how people can worship a celebrity, especially one as freakish as Jackson.

How else are we going to elect a President, Mr. Picky? Hmmm?

/

790 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:22:13am

Lizard Man. (forgot the link)

791 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:22:49am

Here's a before/after of Jocelyn Wildenstein (scroll to bottom):

[Link: www.cosmeticsurgeon.co.uk...]

792 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:23:01am

re: #790 redstateredneck

Lizard Man. (forgot the link)

paleface speak with forked tongue

793 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:23:11am

re: #783 reine.de.tout

That's who I'm talking about.
What's the matter with her?
Why has she done that to herself?
Does she think she looks great?

No, not now. I don't have the whole story, but in short, abuse of plastic surgery, then more to try to correct the problems, and before you know it, side show material.

But no, she didn't do it on purpose, not in the sense that she was sculpting that look on purpose.

794 legalpad  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:23:19am

re: #773 _RememberTonyC

My wife got really pissed at me last night. I said that Michael Jackson has been dead for 12 days and "why don't they just f*ing bury him already?" Her eyes blazed with anger and she practically yelled "why are you taking this so personally?" I said I wasn't, but that coverage of this story is so out of proportion to its importance that REAL news has not been covered for quite some time. Usually people who die are buried within a few days, even if they have two autopsies as Jackson did. This spectacle, abetted by his family and the media is beyond excessive. Does anyone else share this frustration?

Turn off the news. Watch movies for a few weeks. Or nothing. Everybody needs a news break.

795 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:24:07am

re: #792 OldLineTexan

paleface speak with forked tongue

Can you imagine the blood? The tongue is extremely vascular.
yuck.

796 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:24:26am

re: #789 OldLineTexan

How else are we going to elect a President, Mr. Picky? Hmmm?

/


We should do it on American Idol - which we did in 2008!

797 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:24:59am

re: #760 reine.de.tout

I've seen that woman!
She looks awful, simply awful.
More money than sense.

Think she will ever wake up on morning, look in the mirror and say, "What have I done?

798 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:24:59am

re: #794 legalpad

Turn off the news. Watch movies for a few weeks. Or nothing. Everybody needs a news break.


Can't avoid it, no matter how hard I try. I need my news, even if I have to wade through the celebrity sewage. Thank goodness there is baseball every day. Maybe tonight I will watch a movie.

799 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:25:01am

re: #792 OldLineTexan

paleface speak with forked tongue

That's not plastic surgery, it's tattooing and body sculpting (IE: piercing, splitting, etc.)

800 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:25:09am

re: #784 Mad Al-Jaffee

It pisses me off, but I also find it fascinating. It's amazing how people can worship a celebrity, especially one as freakish as Jackson.

I don't even worship Keith Richards...
(close tho)

801 avanti  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:25:27am

re: #460 BlueCanuck

I have a quote for him. "War is politics by other means" Von Clausewitz.

Most of these well meaning idiots always seem to want to disarm. Of course anytime that has happened in history the people disarming tend to disappear.

I prefer Reagan's quote

"History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap."

802 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:25:40am

Wow! You're not going to believe this folks, but I've landed on easy street!

I just got this email:

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5.PHONE/FAX NUMBERS:...
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It sure looks legit, it's from the UN after all. What could possibly go wrong?

803 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:25:51am

re: #781 Son of the Black Dog

Ike only gave us 8 years of peace and prosperity. Then we got LBJ.

Ike also helped plant the roots of Civil Rights and ordered the National Guard to protect the Little Rock students from the mobs. Decent guy, at least.

Speaking of LBJ, Robert McNamara just died. Wonder what most lizards' memory of him was.

804 Shug  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:25:54am
805 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:26:05am

re: #754 Kosh's Shadow

What were James Brown's last words?
"I (don't) feel good"

Did he know that he would now?

806 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:26:14am

re: #795 redstateredneck

Can you imagine the blood? The tongue is extremely vascular.
yuck.

Lickity split!

807 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:26:17am
808 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:26:17am

re: #799 Walter L. Newton

That's not plastic surgery, it's tattooing and body sculpting (IE: piercing, splitting, etc.)

Getting your tongue forked has to be some kind of plastic surgery, unless you had a fatal thing for smooching fan blades.

But I didn't introduce him as an example of anything ...

809 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:26:39am

re: #800 albusteve

I don't worship any musicians, I just have a lot of respect for the ones I admire and the ones who have influenced me. I think I once called Big Walter Horton "god," but that was when I was much younger.

810 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:26:40am

re: #804 Shug

403

811 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:27:00am

re: #796 Mad Al-Jaffee

We should do it on American Idol - which we did in 2008!

Amidst Simon's objections, it seems. q;

812 Desert Dog  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:27:08am

re: #801 avanti

I prefer Reagan's quote

"History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap."

They also begin when one side sits in a circle and sings "All we are saying is give peace a chance" while the other side is arming themselves to the teeth and making one belligerent statement after another.

813 Shug  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:27:22am

re: #804 Shug

Jacko's last words

if that doesn't work, cut and paste it into your browser. should work

814 capitalist piglet  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:27:24am

Good morning!

Who didn't see this coming? Though if you read the rest of the article, it's a lot of this, that, on-the-other-hand...not as clear a condemnation as the opening sentence makes it sound:

The Obama administration poured cold water Monday on any notion it is giving Israel the green light to attack Iran or that it is reconsidering plans to engage diplomatically with the Islamic republic.

Do they have meetings in this White House?

815 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:27:28am

re: #784 Mad Al-Jaffee

It pisses me off, but I also find it fascinating. It's amazing how people can worship a celebrity, especially one as freakish as Jackson.


And while Michael was a brilliant performer 20-25 years ago, he hasn't had a hit in years.

816 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:27:32am

re: #803 laZardo

Wonder what most lizards' memory of him was.


Viet Nam.

817 Desert Dog  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:27:36am

re: #804 Shug

Jacko's last words

His last words were 403 Forbidden?

818 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:27:39am

re: #802 Kenneth

I love the yahoo e-mail account.

819 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:27:57am

re: #802 Kenneth

Wow! You're not going to believe this folks, but I've landed on easy street!

I just got this email:

It sure looks legit, it's from the UN after all. What could possibly go wrong?

I got a couple of those from Ban Ki-Moon himself!

820 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:28:04am
821 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:28:23am

re: #775 Walter L. Newton

If you are talking about JOCELYN WILDENSTEIN, from what I have read, she isn't trying to make herself look like a cat, she is a prime example of overindulgence in plastic surgery and the horrors of what could go wrong.

[Link: beaut.ie...]

She is not trying to look like a cat.

Good. Cause if she was, she missed the mark.

822 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:28:27am

re: #817 Desert Dog

His last words were 403 Forbidden?

he was very spiritual like that ...

/

823 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:28:31am

re: #480 jvic

Alaskan ethics lawsuits

Al Tamagni has suggested something like a "loser-pays" rule: You file an ethics complaint that turns out to be "frivolous or meritless" and you'd have to pay part of the cost of investigating it. A version of the loser-pays rule applies to lawsuits in Alaska courts.

Loser-pays for citizen ethics complaints would be too extreme. The prospect of large financial exposure would discourage citizens from presenting legitimate complaints.

Allowing citizens a way to ensure that Alaska's public officials act ethically is a fundamentally important mission, one that shouldn't be restricted by the size of a citizen's checkbook.

Turned up by a simple google search.

You can also find the applicable law, but it is written in governmentese, a tongue mastered by few, but spoken by many.

I've got to go build the dog a peanut butter and jam sammich. We're friends, but I prefer that he eat his own sammich, rather than nibble part of mine.

I'm stingy that way.

824 legalpad  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:28:41am

re: #798 _RememberTonyC

Can't avoid it, no matter how hard I try.

I know the feeling, though not about news. Some news is mostly local. And you can flick off the minute they say his name.

825 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:28:43am

re: #752 Spare O'Lake

Dear Niece:
Nicely done!
Suggest you continue the fraud. Tell your uncle and other assorted suckers that you are pregnant and invite them to a baby-shower.

Amy

Thanks for the belly-laugh!

826 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:28:45am

re: #801 avanti

I prefer Reagan's quote

"History teaches that war begins when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap."

Good comeback quote. It all boils down to being strong enough to defend our nations, and willing to defend it with any means at our disposal. I am probably going to make a hash of the quote, "the price of liberty is eternal vigilance". You can't have your cake and eat it too.

827 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:28:56am

re: #808 OldLineTexan

Getting your tongue forked has to be some kind of plastic surgery, unless you had a fatal thing for smooching fan blades.

But I didn't introduce him as an example of anything ...

I was just commenting, sorry. And you are right, tongue splitting is considered plastic surgery, although I have seen tattoo places that can and will do it, not doctor needed.

828 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:29:13am

re: #808 OldLineTexan

Getting your tongue forked has to be some kind of plastic surgery, unless you had a fatal thing for smooching fan blades.

But I didn't introduce him as an example of anything ...

I posted the pic because someone brought up Cat Woman and Lizard Man.

829 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:29:30am
830 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:29:55am

re: #815 _RememberTonyC

And while Michael was a brilliant performer 20-25 years ago, he hasn't had a hit in years.

That doesn't matter to his hardcore fans. I remember during one of his trials Howard Stern had somebeody interviewing some of the fans who were there in support of him. Scary, strange people.

831 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:29:55am

re: #779 OldLineTexan

My wife watches "E!" incessantly and wants to pass on the more interesting tidbits. It is maddening, but I am holding it together. I just think about Captain Kangaroo. He spent thirty years tied to a contract that caused him to have a state orphanage haircut and play with ping-pong balls. But he kept it together. Unlike Mr. Greenjeans.

/

Ah. Strolling down memory lane.

832 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:30:05am

re: #827 Walter L. Newton

I was just commenting, sorry. And you are right, tongue splitting is considered plastic surgery, although I have seen tattoo places that can and will do it, not doctor needed.

Oh dear God.

833 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:30:06am

re: #809 Mad Al-Jaffee

I don't worship any musicians, I just have a lot of respect for the ones I admire and the ones who have influenced me. I think I once called Big Walter Horton "god," but that was when I was much younger.

lot's of admiration for their work...all the bigtime musicians I've met are just people...some are cool, others not so much...I quaked a coulple times tho one on one, but you get over it...I could have a fun conversation with Richards I imagine

834 legalpad  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:30:26am

re: #802 Kenneth

You mean "/"?

835 OldLineTexan  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:30:43am

re: #829 buzzsawmonkey

I can haz implantz!

Try our padded ass and reinforced back for cab-driving and internet pr0n-surfing!

/

836 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:30:48am

re: #829 buzzsawmonkey

I can haz implantz!

Plastik serjury, ur doin' it rong akshualy...

837 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:30:58am

re: #785 Walter L. Newton

Bring it on. He is a very smart social satirist.

His outrageously gay character Bruno is quoted as saying he wants to be the most famous Austrian since Adolf Hitler. Considering that the leader of the Austrian Neo-Nazi party recently died in a car crash after partying the night away in a gay leather bar, Cohen is sticking the knife in with a cleverly ironic twist.

I hate Austrian Neo-Nazis.

838 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:31:02am
839 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:31:57am

re: #833 albusteve

lot's of admiration for their work...all the bigtime musicians I've met are just people...some are cool, others not so much...I quaked a coulple times tho one on one, but you get over it...I could have a fun conversation with Richards I imagine

The most famous bluesman I've met was BB King. He was very easygoing, humble and down to earth.

840 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:32:12am
841 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:32:12am

re: #837 Kenneth

His outrageously gay character Bruno is quoted as saying he wants to be the most famous Austrian since Adolf Hitler. Considering that the leader of the Austrian Neo-Nazi party recently died in a car crash after partying the night away in a gay leather bar, Cohen is sticking the knife in with a cleverly ironic twist.

I hate Austrian Neo-Nazis.

He also said that he is the first gay Austrian in a major film since Terminator Two.

842 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:32:13am

re: #802 Kenneth

I'd be careful, were I you. Packer may intend to pack something somewhere that you would rather left unpacked.

NTTAWWT

843 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:32:16am

re: #838 buzzsawmonkey

You ain't seen nothin' yet. Wait'll Obama moonwalks and grabs his crotch at a press conference.

There's a song parody just beggin' to be written there, buzz!

844 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:32:33am

re: #820 Iron Fist

If the Palestinians are so fucking poor that they have to depend upon the charity of the whole fucking world, then where are they getting the funds to donate money to al Qaeda? We should continue supporting these slugs, why? So they won't train and fund terrorists?

Too late.

Hey, Europe blames Israel because their "aid" to the Palis is wasted. Not the corrupt palis who won't create anything for their people except for them to be (in)human weapons against Israel.

845 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:32:52am

re: #792 OldLineTexan

paleface speak with forked tongue

People who have their tongue clipped have to learn diction all over again.

846 avanti  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:32:53am

re: #812 Desert Dog

They also begin when one side sits in a circle and sings "All we are saying is give peace a chance" while the other side is arming themselves to the teeth and making one belligerent statement after another.

I agree, that why we need to continue to outspend the world on defense. I see no problem with cutting back on warheads as was one of Reagan's dreams though.

847 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:33:18am

re: #838 buzzsawmonkey

You ain't seen nothin' yet. Wait'll Obama moonwalks and grabs his crotch at a press conference.

I see a zombie moment.

848 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:33:49am

re: #847 Walter L. Newton

I see a zombie moment.

You mean the "Thriller" video?

849 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:34:15am

re: #846 avanti

I agree, that why we need to continue to outspend the world on defense. I see no problem with cutting back on warheads as was one of Reagan's dreams though.

I do. The bottom line is the one with the most bombs, the ones who can cause the most destruction WINS!

850 Desert Dog  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:34:55am

re: #846 avanti

I agree, that why we need to continue to outspend the world on defense. I see no problem with cutting back on warheads as was one of Reagan's dreams though.

I wish we could stop spending so much on defense as well. We expend quite a bit of our GDP doing that. But, the alternative is the world without a US Military and that would not be a good thing for anyone (except thugs, tyrants, despots and scumbag leaders)

851 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:35:31am

I'm really getting tired of the local celebrity watch in DC. Everyone is so obsessed with Reese Witherspoon and her big, giant forehead filming a movie here. I don't care at all. Also, every local blog is constantly talking about spotting members of The Real World. Does anyone over 15 even watch MTV?

852 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:35:31am

re: #835 OldLineTexan

Some time later, the ass has to be recalled due to spontaneous combustion at low speeds and a new 'safety ass' has to be installed in place.

Then the surgeon gets blacklisted for a memo suggesting he'd rather pay out settlements to the people who can never sit down again.

/obscure Futurama reference

853 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:35:32am

re: #848 Mad Al-Jaffee

You mean the "Thriller" video?

I've never seen the Thriller video. I have never seen a single MJ video, and rarely have heard any of his songs. For a matter of fact, since I stopped playing professionally in 1982, I rarely listen to or pay much attention to popular music at all.

854 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:36:34am

re: #823 razorbacker

Alaskan ethics lawsuits


Turned up by a simple google search.

You can also find the applicable law, but it is written in governmentese, a tongue mastered by few, but spoken by many.

I've got to go build the dog a peanut butter and jam sammich. We're friends, but I prefer that he eat his own sammich, rather than nibble part of mine.

I'm stingy that way.

The Kid ate a whole jar of home-made strawberry jelly yesterday. With a spoon.

855 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:36:45am

re: #853 Walter L. Newton

I've never seen the Thriller video. I have never seen a single MJ video, and rarely have heard any of his songs. For a matter of fact, since I stopped playing professionally in 1982, I rarely listen to or pay much attention to popular music at all.

Fo Shizzl'!

856 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:36:45am

BBIAB - Laundry

857 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:37:00am
858 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:37:06am

re: #807 buzzsawmonkey

She is a living example of the Portrait of Dorian Gray, as was Michael Jackson.

In the belief that they are preserving, or attaining, some ideal of youth and beauty (which is what Gray wished to preserve on his person when he wished for his portrait to age in his stead), they are writing their depravity--and their self-hatred--upon their faces with knives that they have paid for willingly, while their actual pictures preserve an original appearance that mocks their efforts.

Excellent! (of course).

How terribly sad for them. I wish I could "fix" it for 'em.

There's so much joy to be found in life, but they would have to know where to look. And where to look is not inward, to "me me me me me me".

859 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:37:11am

re: #803 laZardo

Ike also helped plant the roots of Civil Rights and ordered the National Guard 101st Airborne Division to protect the Little Rock students from the mobs. Decent guy, at least.

Speaking of LBJ, Robert McNamara just died. Wonder what most lizards' memory of him was.

Slight fix.

And McNamara? Spit on his grave.

860 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:37:13am

re: #819 Kosh's Shadow

I'm thinking of replying with the following "informations" filled in:

1.FULL NAMES OF DONATION BENEFICIARY: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
2.RESIDENTIAL ADDRESS:Tehran, Iran
3.DATE AND PLACE OF BIRTH:.28 October 1956, Garmsar, Iran
4.WINNING EMAIL:dinnerjacket@hotmail.com
5.PHONE/FAX NUMBERS:...
6.NAME AND ADDRESS OF NEXT OF KIN: The Mahdi, Big Well, Qom, Iran
7.SEX: Yes, with goats, preferably
8.OCCUPATION: Dictator
9.MARITAL STATUS: None of your fucking business, infidel!
10.COUNTRY: Islamic Republic of Iran
11NATIONALITY: Iranian

861 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:37:26am

re: #855 VegasRick

Fo Shizzl'!

And I don't speak that language... what?

862 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:37:28am

re: #809 Mad Al-Jaffee

I don't worship any musicians, I just have a lot of respect for the ones I admire and the ones who have influenced me. I think I once called Big Walter Horton "god," but that was when I was much younger.

Remember the black and white film clips of those screaming teenage girls whenever the Beatles appeared? I was young then, but still, couldn't understand their behavior. Still don't understand such "worship."

863 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:37:30am

re: #852 laZardo

Some time later, the ass has to be recalled due to spontaneous combustion at low speeds and a new 'safety ass' has to be installed in place.

Then the surgeon gets blacklisted for a memo suggesting he'd rather pay out settlements to the people who can never sit down again.

/obscure Futurama reference

You sir, have defaced a national treasure!

864 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:37:48am

re: #853 Walter L. Newton

I don't pay attention to pop music either, but I did during Jackson's peak years, when I was in my early teens. Say what you want about his music, some of those videos were brilliant.

865 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:37:48am

From the "amazing but true" file, we find out today that literalist Democrats do in fact exist, and are allies of well-placed, powerful Democrats.

Pastor who opposes homosexuality may get Chicago City Council seat

The sermon sounds like a campaign speech, fitting because De Jesus, one of Chicago's most influential Latino pastors, is making a controversial leap into politics as the choice of outgoing Ald. Billy Ocasio (26th) to be his replacement on the City Council.

But, in a complicated blending of morality and politics, the pastor's possible appointment has drawn protests from gay activists who object to other rhetoric used in De Jesus' church that they say is not as uplifting -- messages equating homosexuality with drug addiction and other social ills.

De Jesus says that he has never preached hatred of gay people and that his church's opposition to homosexuality is rooted in a literal interpretation of the Bible.

Ocasio, who is now an adviser to Gov. Pat Quinn, has asked Mayor Richard Daley to appoint De Jesus. The mayor, who has until Aug. 1 to fill the council seat, has traditionally deferred to outgoing aldermen.

De Jesus already has blurred the lines between the pastor and politician. He spoke at the Democratic National Convention last year and recently accompanied U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.) on a nationwide tour to promote the legalization of illegal immigrants. He also has served on the city's Zoning Board of Appeals.

It's a bigger problem than just on the right. It appears the left is afflicted as well.

866 soccerdad  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:37:49am
Money can’t buy you happiness but it does bring you a more pleasant form of misery.

...But it can sure put down a hell of a down payment

867 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:38:00am

re: #838 buzzsawmonkey

You ain't seen nothin' yet. Wait'll Obama moonwalks and grabs his crotch at a press conference.

While wearing one glove?

868 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:38:32am

re: #839 Mad Al-Jaffee

The most famous bluesman I've met was BB King. He was very easygoing, humble and down to earth.

I 'm a devout Hiatt fan and had seen him a coupla time...to me he is supreme...anyway I was at the Ark in Ann Arbor for a Hiatt gig and I had a security pass...my security buddy was out in back with the loadout and all the fans had pretty much left...the bar was still open and I was just waiting to split and Hiatt walked right up and bought me a beer and started chattering about this and that...a couple other employees sort of wandered up but he was no different than some new neighbor at the pigroast...he talked about tractors and his wife's horses

869 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:39:06am

re: #851 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'm really getting tired of the local celebrity watch in DC. Everyone is so obsessed with Reese Witherspoon and her big, giant forehead filming a movie here. I don't care at all. Also, every local blog is constantly talking about spotting members of The Real World. Does anyone over 15 even watch MTV?

A friend of mine works in the Stagehand Union & has offered me a tour of the set of the new M. Night movie that's being filmed here in Philly

870 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:39:17am

re: #854 MandyManners

The Kid ate a whole jar of home-made strawberry jelly yesterday. With a spoon.

My kind of boy!
I used to eat Uncle Ben's Rice, Honey and milk everyday after school...
I'm still weird.*wink*

871 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:39:25am

re: #865 Honorary Yooper

From the "amazing but true" file, we find out today that literalist Democrats do in fact exist, and are allies of well-placed, powerful Democrats.

Pastor who opposes homosexuality may get Chicago City Council seat

It's a bigger problem than just on the right. It appears the left is afflicted as well.

"You sure he's not like Zell Miller?"

/

//whatever happened to that guy anyway?

872 avanti  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:39:25am

re: #849 Walter L. Newton

I do. The bottom line is the one with the most bombs, the ones who can cause the most destruction WINS!

"Mutually assured destruction" does not mean either side needs to bounce the rubble. If 1600 war heads per side does not act to dissuade a attack, 2000 war heads won't.
I don't think Reagan's hope for zero nukes is realistic, but we can mutually start cutting back IMHO.

873 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:39:25am

re: #860 Kenneth

I'm thinking of replying with the following "informations" filled in:

Double-dog dare ya'!

874 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:40:06am

re: #839 Mad Al-Jaffee

that's what I've heard about BB...I was backstage around him once but did not speak with him...very gentle and humble I think

875 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:40:28am

re: #862 midwestgak

Me either, but I wish I could get women to behave that way when I'm performing. :)

I read something disturbing a couple of weeks ago. One of the Jonas Brothers was speaking in Congress, I think about diabetes. Apparently a Congressional intern fainted when she saw him. Aren't interns in college? Isn't that a little bit too old to behave like that?

876 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:41:10am

re: #846 avanti

I agree, that why we need to continue to outspend the world on defense. I see no problem with cutting back on warheads as was one of Reagan's dreams though.

That's fine but we need to build some new warheads to replace old ones. The Russians are getting rid of old nukes but are replacing some of them with newer, more accurate, harder to hit, weapons (which means they will need fewer of them). We should follow suit, but we won't.

877 Shug  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:41:47am

re: #843 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

There's a song parody just beggin' to be written there, buzz!

Read it.
An Ode to the TOTUS

They Told Him Don't You Ever Speak off the Cuff
Don't Wanna See Your Face, Let TOTUS cover you up
The Words are in the screen , they couldn't be much more clear
So read It, Just Read It

[2nd Verse]
You tend to stutter and to stammer my man
Don't Wanna hear No uuuhs Don't Be A stutterin' Man
You wanna keep your job, Better Do What You Can
So Read It, You don't Wanna Be Bad

[Chorus]
Just read It, read It, Read It, Read It
You don't wanna Be Defeated
Show them How awesome is your eyesight
It Doesn't Matter Choose left or choose right
Just Read It, read It
Just Read It, Read It
Just Read It, Read It
Just Read It, Read It

[3rd Verse]
They're Out To Get You, Better Fool who You Can
Don't Wanna Be A Boy, You Wanna Be A Man
You Wanna Stay on top Better Do What You Can
So Read It, Just read It

[4th Verse]
You Have To Show Them That You're Really Not Scared
You're approval is what matters , This Ain't No Truth Or Dare
They'll Kick You, Then They Beat You,
Then They'll Tell You It's Fair
So Read It, You don't wanna be bad
[chorus]
Just read It, read It, Read It, Read It
You don't wanna Be Defeated
Show them How awesome is your eyesight
It Doesn't Matter Choose left or choose right
Just Read It, read It
Just Read It, Read It
Just Read It, Read It
Just Read It, Read It

878 BlueCanuck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:41:59am

re: #872 avanti

The problem is that Russia isn't the only country with nukes. How about China? Pakistan? Other countries that are trying for coats in the Nuclear club?

879 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:41:59am

re: #854 MandyManners

The Kid ate a whole jar of home-made strawberry jelly yesterday. With a spoon.

He'll think he's bleeding to death when he poops.

880 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:42:08am

re: #876 Dark_Falcon

Whatever to those space laser satellites Reagan said he'd launch?

/that's why they called it "Star Wars," didn't they?

881 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:42:15am

re: #875 Mad Al-Jaffee

Me either, but I wish I could get women to behave that way when I'm performing. :)

I read something disturbing a couple of weeks ago. One of the Jonas Brothers was speaking in Congress, I think about diabetes. Apparently a Congressional intern fainted when she saw him. Aren't interns in college? Isn't that a little bit too old to behave like that?

Well, Helen Thomas passed out as well (I don't think she saw the Jonas brother though).

882 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:42:20am

re: #870 HoosierHoops

My kind of boy!
I used to eat Uncle Ben's Rice, Honey and milk everyday after school...
I'm still weird.*wink*

I chewed him out, telling him that it was selfish and greedy to eat an entire jar of jelly.

883 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:42:28am

re: #880 laZardo

PIMF Whatever happened to...

884 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:42:51am

re: #869 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I used to work in the West Village in NYC. They would be filming movies (Stuart Little, Doubt), tv shows (Law and Order), and commercials (AMEX with Jerry Seinfeld) around here all the time. Now that we're downtown, they've filmed episodes of Ugly Betty. Sometimes you catch a big name. Most of the time, you're hoping that they'd allow you to get through to where you want to go without having to walk a few blocks out of the way.

Of course, being a few blocks from City Hall and Ground Zero, there's always a few demonstrations and/or crowds milling about.

885 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:42:59am

re: #881 VegasRick

Well, Helen Thomas passed out as well (I don't think she saw the Jonas brother though).

Maybe she looked in the mirror.

886 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:43:01am

re: #851 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'm really getting tired of the local celebrity watch in DC. Everyone is so obsessed with Reese Witherspoon and her big, giant forehead filming a movie here. I don't care at all. Also, every local blog is constantly talking about spotting members of The Real World. Does anyone over 15 even watch MTV?

MTV was a novelty the first year or so. Now it is smut, smut, smut. Just surf by the channel and you get an eyefull.

887 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:43:24am

re: #851 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'm really getting tired of the local celebrity watch in DC. Everyone is so obsessed with Reese Witherspoon and her big, giant forehead filming a movie here. I don't care at all. Also, every local blog is constantly talking about spotting members of The Real World. Does anyone over 15 even watch MTV?

alot of films are made in NM...people are getting fed up with the Hollywood types...

888 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:43:29am

re: #879 redstateredneck

He'll think he's bleeding to death when he poops.

Better not come crying to me. I'm still pissed about it.

889 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:43:54am

re: #886 midwestgak

MTV was a novelty the first year or so. Now it is smut, smut, smut. Just surf by the channel and you get an eyefull.

Thanks for the tip! ;)

890 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:44:00am

I'm BA, aaack!

DJa'll miss me !

891 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:44:04am

re: #877 Shug

Kudos!

892 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:44:36am

re: #887 albusteve

It is a big business, and a moneymaker for localities and states. They go to quite a bit of effort to get shows and films done in their states (tax credits, film production incentives, etc.)

893 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:44:40am

re: #879 redstateredneck

He'll think he's bleeding to death when he poops.

"Elaine, do you know what happens to a butter-based product kept in a damp Scottish basement for 60 years? What you're about to go through is punishment enough."
/Seinfeld: J. Peterman, after catching Elaine eating his $30,000 piece of Edward VIII's wedding cake.

894 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:44:47am

re: #890 sattv4u2

I'm BA, aaack!

DJa'll miss me !

Just asked about you last night! Where the hell ya been?

895 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:44:51am

re: #890 sattv4u2

I'm BA, aaack!

DJa'll miss me !

Where you been?

896 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:45:51am

re: #885 Mad Al-Jaffee

Maybe she looked in the mirror.

The undead don't cast reflections.

897 Gus  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:46:04am

re: #558 Killian Bundy

Obama Won't Take Second Stimulus Option Off the Table

You can't stop him, you can't even hope to contain him.

/markets no likey

That's right folks! From the people that brought you Porkulus I comes, Porkulus II!

Obama Adviser Says U.S. Should Mull Second Stimulus (Update2)

Just what we need. More gubernment spending with a shattered economy. At the same time each piece of legislation contains a massive dose of regulations and gubernment mandates.

898 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:46:26am

re: #864 Mad Al-Jaffee

I don't pay attention to pop music either, but I did during Jackson's peak years, when I was in my early teens. Say what you want about his music, some of those videos were brilliant.

I used to rollerskate to his songs in the day.

899 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:46:45am

re: #831 midwestgak

Captain Kangaroo (Bob Keeshan) was a US Marine.

And while I was a little old to watch it, his TV show was a pleasant contrast to much of today's TV children's fare.

900 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:47:25am

re: #894 VegasRick

re: #895 redstateredneck

2 + weeks at my place on Pawleys Island S.C.

Golf , Beach , Left my laptop at home so I wouldn't be tempted to do work!

901 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:47:42am

re: #865 Honorary Yooper

From the "amazing but true" file, we find out today that literalist Democrats do in fact exist, and are allies of well-placed, powerful Democrats.

Pastor who opposes homosexuality may get Chicago City Council seat

It's a bigger problem than just on the right. It appears the left is afflicted as well.

Maybe an opportunity. If the replacement isn't well liked, perhaps a liberal Republican could unseat. Yes, I'm pretty much talking about a RINO here, but just the R next to his name would irk Daley and I'd support such a challenger just for that.

902 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:47:51am

re: #882 MandyManners

I chewed him out, telling him that it was selfish and greedy to eat an entire jar of jelly.

LOL
Wait till he is a teenager...He won't stop eating

903 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:47:52am

re: #871 laZardo

"You sure he's not like Zell Miller?"

/

//whatever happened to that guy anyway?

With what? Spit balls?

904 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:48:06am

re: #900 sattv4u2

re: #895 redstateredneck

2 + weeks at my place on Pawleys Island S.C.

Golf , Beach , Left my laptop at home so I wouldn't be tempted to do work!

Get out!

905 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:48:15am

re: #887 albusteve

alot of films are made in NM...people are getting fed up with the Hollywood types...

Which is a bitch. We had a vibrant film industry in the 90's here, I picked up a lot of extra acting gigs doing feature films and made for TV movies, but Colorado lawmakers decided to try to take to much of the pie and started charging the production companies all sorts of extra taxes.

And then the defeat of our Amendment Two (a gay rights thing) seal the deal.

We have no lost tons of work to NM, Tx, Ut etc.

I miss those checks coming in from central casting in L.A.

906 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:48:16am

re: #900 sattv4u2

re: #895 redstateredneck

2 + weeks at my place on Pawleys Island S.C.

Golf , Beach , Left my laptop at home so I wouldn't be tempted to do work!

Nice. Welcome back.

907 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:48:25am

re: #900 sattv4u2

re: #895 redstateredneck

2 + weeks at my place on Pawleys Island S.C.

Golf , Beach , Left my laptop at home so I wouldn't be tempted to do work!

Hey you..nice to see you back..How did the golf go and where did you play?

908 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:48:52am

re: #904 redstateredneck

Get out!

get outta what !

909 jorline  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:49:22am

Leadership

Drudge Headlines

4:15 AM: OBAMA SAYS FUTURE DOES NOT BELONG TO THOSE WHO GATHER ARMIES OR PLANT MISSILES...
7:45 AM: Suspected US missiles hit militants...

Obama: 'Absolutely' no green light for Israel to attack Iran...
Biden: Israel has right to deal with nuclear Iran...

910 Gus  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:49:25am

Al Gore likens fight against climate change to battle with Nazis

Al Gore today compared the battle against climate change with the struggle against the Nazis.

The former US Vice President said the world lacked the political will to act and invoked the spirit of Winston Churchill by encouraging leaders to unite their nations to fight climate change...

911 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:49:44am

re: #908 sattv4u2

get outta what !

I haven't had a two week vacation since...maternity leave? ? ? (and the baby is 19)

912 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:50:02am

re: #892 lawhawk

It is a big business, and a moneymaker for localities and states. They go to quite a bit of effort to get shows and films done in their states (tax credits, film production incentives, etc.)

NM has a very long and colorful history of movie making here...now there are actually home grown studios here, and more available infrastructure...but bad manners are a problem with the people here, who are very easy going, polite and friendly...in the old days the stars loved NM...and would often come back for it's rich culture and ambience...not so much any more...snobbery is afoot and NM don't like it

913 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:50:23am

re: #872 avanti

Could you please explain how a nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia is supposed to "lead by example" as Obama put it, and somehow shame Iran & North Korea into giving up their nuclear weapons ambitions? It strikes me as dangerously naive at best.

914 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:50:41am

re: #903 midwestgak

Huh?

915 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:50:50am

re: #913 Kenneth

Could you please explain how a nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia is supposed to "lead by example" as Obama put it, and somehow shame Iran & North Korea into giving up their nuclear weapons ambitions? It strikes me as dangerously naive at best.

That's Obama in a nutshell.

916 Rancher  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:51:07am

Obama: No green light for Israel to attack Iran

The United States is "absolutely not" giving Israel a green light to attack Iran, U.S. President Barack Obama told CNN Tuesday.

We have said directly to the Israelis that it is important to try and resolve this in an international setting in a way that does not create major conflict in the Middle East," Obama said, referring to Iran's nuclear ambitions.


Remember this should a city near you disappear in a mushroom cloud. What is more likely to happen is Iran will become untouchable, like North Korea, but unlike Korea Iran will further destabilize Iraq, Lebanon, and many other Middle East countries, continue to fund Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorists and continue to kill Americans. We will see a nuclear arms race in the region and the first attacks will probably be in a Sunni Shia conflict killing millions and crippling the world as Middle East oil is taken off the shelf. In his 1988 last will and testament Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini stated “The Muslim community and the oppressed people of the world are proud that their enemies are Hosein of Jordan, this vulgar professional criminal, Hasan of Morroco and Hosni Mobarak of Egypt, who are all allies of the criminal Israel and who will not refuse to commit any treason against their own people in order to serve America and Israel.” He also mentions Saudi Arabia “In this age which is the age of oppression of the Muslim nations oppressed by the governments of America and Russia and their puppets including Ale Saud (rulers of Sa`udi `Arabia)”. What is so frustrating is that Obama is making three ludicrous assumptions:

1) Ahmadinejad can be trusted to uphold any agreements, which constitutionally he can't even make.
2) The Mullahs are willing to give up on an extremly powerful tool that will help them obtain their ideological goals.
3) That we have something to offer in return.

917 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:51:31am

This Tom Waits quote makes me think about all of the Jackson craziness going on:

"I was in Memphis about three weeks ago, for a wedding. While I was there I went to Graceland. It's like a sideshow. It's like the ultimate sideshow on a carnival. Paying to go in and look at a room where people used to drink and get loaded. I would have rather seen his pickled head in a jar. Then I would have felt like I got what I paid for. We walked by the grave. My little boy said: 'I wish they'd dig him up and take all his teeth out so I can make a necklace.' I don't think anybody had thought of that yet. Elvis's teeth necklace."

918 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:51:33am

re: #913 Kenneth

Could you please explain how a nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia is supposed to "lead by example" as Obama put it, and somehow shame Iran & North Korea into giving up their nuclear weapons ambitions? It strikes me as dangerously naive at best.

Don't dance around it Ken..
It's fucking dangerous and stupid...
/I feel better now

919 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:51:35am

re: #914 laZardo

I meant that leftist mantra that "if they don't agree with us, then they're LINO."

/as it were.

920 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:51:38am

re: #854 MandyManners

The Kid ate a whole jar of home-made strawberry jelly yesterday. With a spoon.

Good Lord, Mandy. You'd better get that boy to a hospital.

If that spoon turns sideways coming out, the little darlin' will by hurtin' for certain.

921 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:51:46am

re: #907 HoosierHoops

Hey you..nice to see you back..How did the golf go and where did you play?

where didn't I play?

There are about a dozen courses within 15 minutes of my condo. Hell, the condo complex itself sits on two of them! (True Blue and Caledonia)

922 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:52:03am

re: #897 Gus 802

That's right folks! From the people that brought you Porkulus I comes, Porkulus II!

Obama Adviser Says U.S. Should Mull Second Stimulus (Update2)

Just what we need. More gubernment spending with a shattered economy. At the same time each piece of legislation contains a massive dose of regulations and gubernment mandates.

It might be possible to stop a second round of pork. I hope so. Any more of this change barrage, and I think I might give into despair.

923 subsailor68  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:52:07am

Dear Amy,

Recently, my friend Joe and I decided it would be a real kick to see if we could get the President and Vice President gig. And we did!

Joe's really starting to get on my nerves. The guy just won't shut up. Every time he opens his mouth, something really stupid comes out. And, heck, it turns out I'm not much better.

This thing started as a lark, but it's way out of control. What should I do?

Desperate in D.C.

Dear Desperate,

As a wise man once wrote: Reality's a bitch. However, our friend Sarah from Alaska had a pretty interesting idea. Give it some thought and get back to me.

Oh, and as for your friend Joe, it's always better to get these things on the table. Have him over, pop a couple of cold ones to break the ice, then just tell him to STFD and STFU.

Good luck!
Amy

924 Shug  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:52:19am

re: #917 Mad Al-Jaffee


1 million updings.
thanks for the laugh

925 avanti  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:52:33am

re: #878 BlueCanuck

The problem is that Russia isn't the only country with nukes. How about China? Pakistan? Other countries that are trying for coats in the Nuclear club?

The real threat is from the rogue nations or them supply the terrorists. Although the US and Russia have 90% of the nukes and can reduce the count, the under 1% in 3rd world countries are more dangerous.
We can't expect China to reduce it's nukes yet, they have a small arsenal compared to the Russians and us.

926 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:52:59am

re: #909 jorline

Leadership

Drudge Headlines

4:15 AM: OBAMA SAYS FUTURE DOES NOT BELONG TO THOSE WHO GATHER ARMIES OR PLANT MISSILES...
7:45 AM: Suspected US missiles hit militants...

Obama: 'Absolutely' no green light for Israel to attack Iran...
Biden: Israel has right to deal with nuclear Iran...

It's an accidental on-purpose muddle. No one knows the real policy, and while it gives the impression publicly that the Administration doesn't know what it's doing (and frankly, that should be plenty troubling), it also means that US enemies (see NK, Iran, etc.) must have a hard time figuring out what the US policy is as well. It has the effect of giving Israel room to operate.

927 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:52:59am

re: #910 Gus 802

Al Gore likens fight against climate change to battle with Nazis

Is Al Gore familiar with Godwin's Law?

928 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:53:06am

re: #921 sattv4u2

where didn't I play?

There are about a dozen courses within 15 minutes of my condo. Hell, the condo complex itself sits on two of them! (True Blue and Caledonia)

Awesome Satt... What did you shoot?

929 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:53:08am

re: #850 Desert Dog

I wish we could stop spending so much on defense as well. We expend quite a bit of our GDP doing that. But, the alternative is the world without a US Military and that would not be a good thing for anyone (except thugs, tyrants, despots and scumbag leaders)

IIRC, we are now spending less on defense, as a percentage of GDP, than at any time since before Pearl Harbor. The military is stretched thin, and Obama is going to stretch it even thinner. That's just an open invitation to the Kim Jong Il's of this world.

930 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:53:25am

re: #910 Gus 802

That headline doesn't surprise. "Climate change denial" is already being compared to Holocaust denial.

931 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:53:45am

re: #911 redstateredneck

I haven't had a two week vacation since...maternity leave? ? ? (and the baby is 19)

Sorry to hear that, but after doing about 6 months of 60+ hour work weeks I was burnt out

932 Gus  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:53:45am

re: #922 Dark_Falcon

It might be possible to stop a second round of pork. I hope so. Any more of this change barrage, and I think I might give into despair.

Would be nice to see it stopped. In my case my representatives are devout Liberals

933 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:54:22am
934 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:54:31am

re: #905 Walter L. Newton

Which is a bitch. We had a vibrant film industry in the 90's here, I picked up a lot of extra acting gigs doing feature films and made for TV movies, but Colorado lawmakers decided to try to take to much of the pie and started charging the production companies all sorts of extra taxes.

And then the defeat of our Amendment Two (a gay rights thing) seal the deal.

We have no lost tons of work to NM, Tx, Ut etc.

I miss those checks coming in from central casting in L.A.

greed is hard to control...but like I said movies down here is an old business and the state has done quite well in the past with it...just more blue collar work for wranglers, support people and all sorts of small time businesses...time change tho

935 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:54:31am

re: #910 Gus 802

I'll bet pore ol' Al was near exhausted, after walking all that way to D.C.

936 SummerSong  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:54:44am

re: #905 Walter L. Newton

Which feature films and made for TV movies were you in, Walter?

937 redstateredneck  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:54:46am

re: #931 sattv4u2

Sorry to hear that, but after doing about 6 months of 60+ hour work weeks I was burnt out

Are you all relaxed, refreshed & rarin' to go?

938 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:54:46am

re: #932 Gus 802

Would be nice to see it stopped. In my case my representatives are devout devoid Liberals

FTFY!

939 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:55:07am

re: #909 jorline

Leadership

Drudge Headlines

4:15 AM: OBAMA SAYS FUTURE DOES NOT BELONG TO THOSE WHO GATHER ARMIES OR PLANT MISSILES...
7:45 AM: Suspected US missiles hit militants...

Obama: 'Absolutely' no green light for Israel to attack Iran...
Biden: Israel has right to deal with nuclear Iran...

More naive hopeychange. Just shut up already, Obama.

940 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:55:08am

re: #928 HoosierHoops

Awesome Satt... What did you shoot?

I usually shoot the temperature , low to mid 90's!

941 midwestgak  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:55:14am

re: #914 laZardo

A very small part of his rebuplican convention speech.

942 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:55:16am

re: #923 subsailor68

Should forward that to Iowahawk. :D

943 Gus  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:55:34am

re: #930 Mad Al-Jaffee

That headline doesn't surprise. "Climate change denial" is already being compared to Holocaust denial.

I've seen that association as well. Hence the word: denial. Implementing or promoting climate change policy is 90% psychology.

944 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:55:39am

re: #928 HoosierHoops

Awesome Satt... What did you shoot?

Golfers is my guess/

945 avanti  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:56:45am

re: #913 Kenneth

Could you please explain how a nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia is supposed to "lead by example" as Obama put it, and somehow shame Iran & North Korea into giving up their nuclear weapons ambitions? It strikes me as dangerously naive at best.

I did not read that anyone thought it would shame anyone. The most it could do is so a show a willingness to continue to move away from the cold war.
We need China and Russia to help us with Korea and Iran.

946 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:56:46am

re: #937 redstateredneck

Are you all relaxed, refreshed & rarin' to go?

Well , another week or two wouldn't have been bad!

947 legalpad  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:57:04am

re: #927 Honorary Yooper

Is Al Gore familiar with Godwin's Law?

Al is not familiar with much, in spite of inventing the internet.

948 Gus  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:57:08am

re: #935 razorbacker

I'll bet pore ol' Al was near exhausted, after walking all that way to D.C.

Heck yeah! A long walk on the tarmac from his Gulfstream to his 12 cylinder Maserati limousine. Must have been a good 50 feet.

949 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:57:13am

re: #932 Gus 802

Would be nice to see it stopped. In my case my representatives are devout Liberals

Mine too. It drives me crazy.

950 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:57:29am
951 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:58:22am

re: #917 Mad Al-Jaffee

This Tom Waits quote makes me think about all of the Jackson craziness going on:

"I was in Memphis about three weeks ago, for a wedding. While I was there I went to Graceland. It's like a sideshow. It's like the ultimate sideshow on a carnival. Paying to go in and look at a room where people used to drink and get loaded. I would have rather seen his pickled head in a jar. Then I would have felt like I got what I paid for. We walked by the grave. My little boy said: 'I wish they'd dig him up and take all his teeth out so I can make a necklace.' I don't think anybody had thought of that yet. Elvis's teeth necklace."

That's quite the little ghoul Tom has there. I can see how a dad would be proud of a comment like that and quote it to the media. If the kid even said it.
///

952 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:58:26am

re: #940 sattv4u2

I usually shoot the temperature , low to mid 90's!

Me too... That damn 3 wood would kick our ass on the course...he shoots in the 80's...
I'm glad you had a wonderful relaxing time...
Welcome home

953 Gus  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:58:48am

re: #949 Dark_Falcon

Mine too. It drives me crazy.

If anything they'd want to spend more. Sort of like those that think the Waxmann climate porkulus bill didn't go far enough.

954 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:58:52am

re: #910 Gus 802

Al Gore likens fight against climate change to battle with Nazis

What a stupid, low-life motherfucker.

955 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:59:15am
956 Gus  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:59:34am

re: #954 MandyManners

What a stupid, low-life motherfucker.

That's Algore in a nutshell.

957 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:59:53am

re: #936 SummerSong

Which feature films and made for TV movies were you in, Walter?

The Ellan Heart Pena Story (MOTW - movie of the week )
Strangeland (feature film with Dee Synder)
The 3 Ninga's - High Noon at Mega Mountain (feature)
Asteroid (MOTW - NBC)
Twisted Path (indie feature)
Tiger Street (indie - direct to cable)
The Shining (TV version)

958 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:00:08am

re: #945 avanti

I did not read that anyone thought it would shame anyone. The most it could do is so a show a willingness to continue to move away from the cold war.
We need China and Russia to help us with Korea and Iran.

They have little reason to do that. Iran supplies Russia with hard currency for arms sales and China wants Iran's oil. We are not going to bring them around on Iran. On North Korea, maybe, but still probably not. Sorry for the downding, but your post was dangerously naive.

959 avanti  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:00:09am

re: #929 Son of the Black Dog

IIRC, we are now spending less on defense, as a percentage of GDP, than at any time since before Pearl Harbor. The military is stretched thin, and Obama is going to stretch it even thinner. That's just an open invitation to the Kim Jong Il's of this world.

Here's a good article on the Gate's defense plan and it mentions Russia's budget issues with upgraded their nukes too.
Gates.

960 Gus  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:00:39am

re: #955 buzzsawmonkey

All those concentration campsites in the national parks...

He must be smoking dope.

961 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:00:41am

re: #930 Mad Al-Jaffee

That headline doesn't surprise. "Climate change denial" is already being compared to Holocaust denial.

This bothers the hell out of me. Those of us who question some of their solutions get tarred with the "denier" label as well for just not being in lock-step, goosestepping to the catastophists solutions beat.

962 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:01:11am

re: #957 Walter L. Newton

The Ellan Heart Pena Story (MOTW - movie of the week )
Strangeland (feature film with Dee Synder)
The 3 Ninga's - High Noon at Mega Mountain (feature)
Asteroid (MOTW - NBC)
Twisted Path (indie feature)
Tiger Street (indie - direct to cable)
The Shining (TV version)

Forgot...

Phantoms (feature)

963 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:01:22am
964 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:01:32am

re: #960 Gus 802

He must be smoking dope.

Well, he does have Spicoli on his side.

965 albusteve  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:01:48am

re: #963 buzzsawmonkey

I don't know about "smoking dope." "Flaming asshole," on the other hand...

hahaha!...good one

966 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:02:14am

re: #952 HoosierHoops

Me too... That damn 3 wood would kick our ass on the course...he shoots in the 80's...
I'm glad you had a wonderful relaxing time...
Welcome home

Before the best ball scramble:

'What'd ya shoot?'

'70s'

After the best ball scramble:

'You Sumbeech, I thought you shot in the 70s?'

'Oh, what do I shoot? I thought you said when did I shoot.'

967 avanti  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:03:45am

re: #958 Dark_Falcon

They have little reason to do that. Iran supplies Russia with hard currency for arms sales and China wants Iran's oil. We are not going to bring them around on Iran. On North Korea, maybe, but still probably not. Sorry for the downding, but your post was dangerously naive.

No problem with the ding, I may be too hopeful that they can help. I never thought I'd see China allow tough sanctions and they did. I never thought the Korean ship would turn around and it did, so I still have hope that Korea will continue to be isolated.

968 Gus  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:04:18am

re: #963 buzzsawmonkey

I don't know about "smoking dope." "Flaming asshole," on the other hand...

Yeah. It never ends. Day in and day out this AGW hype is getting louder. The proposed "fixes" are getting more bizarre at the same time.

969 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:04:25am

re: #952 HoosierHoops

Me too... That damn 3 wood would kick our ass on the course...he shoots in the 80's...
I'm glad you had a wonderful relaxing time...
Welcome home

I play in the low 70s - if it gets any hotter, I go home.

970 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:04:30am
971 Rancher  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:04:36am

re: #929 Son of the Black Dog

IIRC, we are now spending less on defense, as a percentage of GDP, than at any time since before Pearl Harbor. The military is stretched thin, and Obama is going to stretch it even thinner. That's just an open invitation to the Kim Jong Il's of this world.


Because we just spent trillions on bullshit pork without spending one extra dime on defense. We actually cut spending by abandoning missle defense and the F-22.

972 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:05:01am

re: #913 Kenneth

Could you please explain how a nuclear arms reduction treaty with Russia is supposed to "lead by example" as Obama put it, and somehow shame Iran & North Korea into giving up their nuclear weapons ambitions? It strikes me as dangerously naive at best.

Can we please put an end to this public relations ruse and acknowledge that Bush's agreement with Russia cut back the amount of nukes by a MUCH BIGGER number than The One?

973 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:05:21am

re: #962 Walter L. Newton

Forgot...

Phantoms (feature)

Affleck was da bomb in Phantoms, yo!

974 Dianna  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:05:39am

re: #951 Spare O'Lake

That's quite the little ghoul Tom has there. I can see how a dad would be proud of a comment like that and quote it to the media. If the kid even said it.
///

Little boys are frequently ghoulish. It doesn't bother me.

It's when they still think that way at 20 that we should worry.

975 Shug  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:05:45am

re: #909 jorline

Leadership

Drudge Headlines

4:15 AM: OBAMA SAYS FUTURE DOES NOT BELONG TO THOSE WHO GATHER ARMIES OR PLANT MISSILES...
7:45 AM: Suspected US missiles hit militants...

Obama: 'Absolutely' no green light for Israel to attack Iran...
Biden: Israel has right to deal with nuclear Iran
...
Obama administration fucking clueless.

fixed

976 Gus  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:06:05am

re: #927 Honorary Yooper

Is Al Gore familiar with Godwin's Law?

Saw this comment:

Yeesh, Al, I agree that global warming is a problem, but Godwin's Law much?
Martin, London, UK

977 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:06:26am

re: #959 avanti

Here's a good article on the Gate's defense plan and it mentions Russia's budget issues with upgraded their nukes too.
Gates.

That needs to be balance with this article. Russia has started returning two Typhoons to service. I'm not entirely bothered by this one though: I've always had an odd respect for the Typhoon class, which are the biggest subs ever. At 24,000 tons, they've even bigger than your old cruiser, avanti.

978 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:06:28am

re: #971 Rancher

Because we just spent trillions on bullshit pork without spending one extra dime on defense. We actually cut spending by abandoning missle defense and the F-22.

Millions for trivialities, not a penny for defense!

979 SixDegrees  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:06:38am

re: #917 Mad Al-Jaffee

This Tom Waits quote makes me think about all of the Jackson craziness going on:

"I was in Memphis about three weeks ago, for a wedding. While I was there I went to Graceland. It's like a sideshow. It's like the ultimate sideshow on a carnival. Paying to go in and look at a room where people used to drink and get loaded. I would have rather seen his pickled head in a jar. Then I would have felt like I got what I paid for. We walked by the grave. My little boy said: 'I wish they'd dig him up and take all his teeth out so I can make a necklace.' I don't think anybody had thought of that yet. Elvis's teeth necklace."

Tom Waits will be starring in Terry Gilliam's upcoming film, The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus, as Satan. Which makes it a must-see, in my opinion.

980 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:06:58am

re: #973 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Affleck was da bomb in Phantoms, yo!

The movie was 'da bomb." I didn't work on set with Affleck, but I did a scene with Peter O'toole... yes... it's true... he drinks... a lot.

981 jorline  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:07:23am

re: #967 avanti

No problem with the ding, I may be too hopeful that they can help. I never thought I'd see China allow tough sanctions and they did. I never thought the Korean ship would turn around and it did, so I still have hope that Korea will continue to be isolated.

The name of the NoKo ship was "Just Fuckin' With Ya"!

982 Ben Hur  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:07:54am

re: #960 Gus 802

He must be smoking dope.

Don't blame the weed.

983 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:08:00am

re: #972 Ben Hur

Can we please put an end to this public relations ruse and acknowledge that Bush's agreement with Russia cut back the amount of nukes by a MUCH BIGGER number than The One?

And have the MSM admit that Bush was actually an effective Pres?

Surley, Shirley, you jest!

984 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:08:31am

re: #980 Walter L. Newton

The movie was 'da bomb." I didn't work on set with Affleck, but I did a scene with Peter O'toole... yes... it's true... he drinks... a lot.

So his character in "My Favorite Year" was not much of a stretch?

985 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:08:43am

re: #905 Walter L. Newton

I just checked your website and learned that you wrote a play adapted from the book "I Never Promised You a Rose Garden" by Walter L. Newton by Joanne Greenberg.

That was a wonderful book, and I can't begin to imagine how you adapted it for the stage, but from the reviews quoted, you did a superb job. Kudos to you!

986 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:08:49am

re: #982 Ben Hur

Don't blame the weed.

Hate the dope, not the weed.

987 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:09:13am

re: #967 avanti

No problem with the ding, I may be too hopeful that they can help. I never thought I'd see China allow tough sanctions and they did. I never thought the Korean ship would turn around and it did, so I still have hope that Korea will continue to be isolated.

So do I. As I said: With the Norks we might get some help, but with Iran, forget about it. The key difference is that Iran has oil.

988 johnnyreb  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:09:18am

re: #971 Rancher

Because we just spent trillions on bullshit pork without spending one extra dime on defense. We actually cut spending by abandoning missle defense and the F-22.

You ain't seen nothing yet! Just wait till Obama, Pelosi and Reed really get going on cutting defense.

989 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:09:19am

Well, I'm going to see if the Jeep has managed to change its own oil, lube all the zerk fittings, WD40 the hinges and latches, and wash itself.

If not, I guess I'll be back after a while.

990 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:09:44am
991 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:09:55am
992 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:10:05am

re: #969 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I play in the low 70s - if it gets any hotter, I go home.

LOL
Just go to the club house and have a beer...
August 2007 I played the best game of my life at Twin Bridges...
I will never match the towering drives or the lucky putts... My buds were going...Where the hell did that shot come from? Dunno
Hope they bury me with the scorecard.. Stud for a day

993 avanti  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:10:40am

re: #971 Rancher

Because we just spent trillions on bullshit pork without spending one extra dime on defense. We actually cut spending by abandoning missle defense and the F-22.

Gates did not cut the defense budget, it was increased, but some programs were cut.

Gates.

994 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:12:03am

Lunchtime. Hoping for a new thread when I get back.

995 Dianna  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:12:21am

re: #990 Iron Fist

Do you mean that everybody doesn't have a neclace of ears hanging in a prominant place in their bedroom? Get outta here! It's a hell of a conversation piece :-)

Why do I find myself thinking of the scene where Miles asks Ekaterin if she'd like to see a bag of Cetagandan scalps?

996 razorbacker  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:12:33am

re: #990 Iron Fist

Do you mean that everybody doesn't have a neclace of ears hanging in a prominant place in their bedroom? Get outta here! It's a hell of a conversation piece :-)

Man, that's just trashy.

It's ear, testicle, ear, testicle, ear, testicle.

You get all those ears strung together and they look like some wilted cauliflower or something.

997 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:12:49am
998 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:13:33am

re: #971 Rancher

"This 'bullshit pork' will actually go to vital categories like education and infrastructure repair that will help Americans who need it, rather than killing people from other countries for greedy corporate interests!"

/they're still saying that.

999 Millicent Islam  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:13:51am

re: #753 reine.de.tout


I do think some people are born with gender confusion - whether it's hormones or whatever, it's very sad and it must be very disorienting and confusing.

However, I think people who seek the solution to their confusion in surgery are seeking an answer in the wrong place. Although mental and emotional therapy is wonderful and can do a lot of good, in the end, the answer to not liking oneself isn't MORE "me me me me me", but lies in looking outward toward others, imo.

For cosmetic surgery addicts like Michael Jackson and Jocelyn Wildenstein, one possibility is that they are afflicted with a form of Body Dysmporhic Disorder:

Body dysmorphic disorder (BDD) (previously known as Dysmorphophobia[1] and sometimes referred to as Body dysmorphia or Dysmorphic syndrome[2]) is a psychiatric disorder in which the affected person is excessively concerned about and preoccupied by an imagined or minor defect in his or her physical features. The sufferer may complain of several specific features or a single feature, or a vague feature or general appearance, causing psychological distress that impairs occupational and/or social functioning, sometimes to the point of complete social isolation.[3] It is estimated that 1–2% of the world's population meet all the diagnostic criteria for BDD.

These people see something in the mirror that the rest of us don't see. There is speculation that BDD might also be involved in anorexia: the anorexic looks in the mirror and sees herself as fat, even when the scale, her clothing sizes, and everyone else is telling her that she is dangerously thin.

BDD is a growing problem for plastic surgeons. Some will refuse to perform multiple surgeries on the same patient, but then the patient just goes elsewhere. And there are always doctors unscrupulous enough to perform the surgery.

As for operations for trangenders, in the US it's a requirement that they undergo extensive psychological testing first, to establish that they are a 'true' transexual, and there is a further requirement that they first live for one year 'as' the other gender: that is, a man will dress as a woman and be 'out' as a woman to his family, work colleagues, everyone 24/7. This is to test whether the person genuinely wants to go through with it and has a social support system around him and is aware of all the potential consequences of having the surgery.

There are many other stages to the transitioning process involving hormones, etc, but the requirement of living for one year as the other gender makes a lot of sense to me. You'd get a sense of whether you can keep your job, your family relationships, your friends, etc. I assume the idea is partly to make sure the patient is 100% sure, and aware of what they're in for, but the year requirement would also weed out the psychologically unstable.

1000 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:14:07am

re: #996 razorbacker

But should they be worn after labor day?

1001 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:14:16am

re: #945 avanti

... We need China and Russia to help us with Korea and Iran.

So, when are they going to start?

1002 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:14:21am

re: #979 SixDegrees

Tom Waits will be starring in Terry Gilliam's upcoming film, The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus, as Satan. Which makes it a must-see, in my opinion.


Cool! I'm looking forward to that.

1003 unrealizedviewpoint  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:15:00am

re: #997 Iron Fist

Algoresucks.com

Looksl like that domain name has been taken :-)

I'll bet a dozen fruitcups he owns it.

1004 Gus  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:15:17am

re: #982 Ben Hur

Don't blame the weed.

OK, maybe I should be smoking some weed.

//To cope.

1005 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:15:49am

re: #997 Iron Fist

I bet it automatically redirects to Algoreissupermegaawesome.com.

1006 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:15:56am

Time for lunch

1007 SixDegrees  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:16:01am

re: #1002 Killgore Trout

Cool! I'm looking forward to that.

Also starring Heath Ledger. Long story.

1008 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:16:06am

re: #985 Kenneth

I just checked your website and learned that you wrote a play adapted from the book "I Never Promised You a Rose Garden" by Walter L. Newton by Joanne Greenberg.

That was a wonderful book, and I can't begin to imagine how you adapted it for the stage, but from the reviews quoted, you did a superb job. Kudos to you!

It was easy, I'm nuts.

No, really, thank you for the nice compliment. The play is presently in the process right now of being published.

1009 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:17:51am

re: #974 Dianna

Little boys are frequently ghoulish. It doesn't bother me.

It's when they still think that way at 20 that we should worry.

Reminds me of something the science fiction author Robert Bloch used to say. (Among other things, he wrote the Star Trek episode "Wolf in the Fold", with the Jack the Ripper character)
He said he had the heart of a little boy.
.
.
In a jar on his desk.

1010 VegasRick  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:18:21am

bbl

1011 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:18:55am

re: #974 Dianna

Little boys are frequently ghoulish. It doesn't bother me.

It's when they still think that way at 20 that we should worry.

I'm 21.

BE VERY AFRAID.

/ C:

1012 MandyManners  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:19:04am

re: #996 razorbacker

Man, that's just trashy.

It's ear, testicle, ear, testicle, ear, testicle.

You get all those ears strung together and they look like some wilted cauliflower or something.

Actually, testicles are best displayed over one's mantle.

1013 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:20:15am

re: #1012 MandyManners

Actually, testicles are best displayed over one's mantle.

Mickeys' Mantle ?

1014 Cygnus  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:20:39am

re: #910 Gus 802

Al Gore likens fight against climate change to battle with Nazis

Good grief. *Shaking head slowly*

1015 JohnnyReb  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:20:40am

re: #1000 Fenway_Nation

But should they be worn after labor day?


Nice patch! I used to be 3rd ID way back in the 1970s. 2/41st FA Bad Kissingen.

1016 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:21:13am

They say we get the govermnent we deserve. I say we deserve Peter King. I hope NYers have the good sense to elect him to the senate next time out. While I would have been a bit more diplomatic that he was in his statements about the media orgy for Michael Jackson, I do mostly agree with him:

[Link: wcbstv.com...]

You go, Pete.

1017 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:22:15am
1018 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:24:05am

re: #1015 JohnnyReb

Thanks- I wore it a little more recently than that, but not recent enough to take part in any Thunder Runs, drive a Stryker, wear a black beret or pixellated camo.

1019 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:24:49am

re: #993 avanti

Gates did not cut the defense budget, it was increased, but some programs were cut.

Gates.

They combined the ongoing resolutions to fund operations in Afghanistan and Iraq with the regular defense budget. If you compare the old regular defense budget with the new one, it went up; if you compare the total of the budget plus operations, it went down significantly.

1020 HoosierHoops  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:25:11am

re: #1016 _RememberTonyC

Hi Tony!
Personally...I never liked Micheal Jackson...But I thought it crass and tacky to spit on a dead man...He couldn't wait a few days till they bury him?
You don't have to adore him but crap give him a break...

1021 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:25:16am
1022 Cygnus  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:25:18am

re: #963 buzzsawmonkey

I don't know about "smoking dope." "Flaming asshole," on the other hand...

Wouldn't all that flaming methane contribute to global warming?

1023 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:25:32am

re: #945 avanti

I did not read that anyone thought it would shame anyone. The most it could do is so a show a willingness to continue to move away from the cold war.
We need China and Russia to help us with Korea and Iran.

Here's the quote you're ignoring:

“It’s naïve for us to think,” Obama said, “that we can grow our nuclear stockpiles, the Russians continue to grow their nuclear stockpiles, and our allies grow their nuclear stockpiles, and that in that environment we’re going to be able to pressure countries like Iran and North Korea not to pursue nuclear weapons themselves.”

His critics responded thus:


Even before those battles are joined, opposition is rising. “This is dangerous, wishful thinking,” Senator Jon Kyl, Republican of Arizona, and Richard Perle, an architect of the Reagan-era nuclear buildup that appalled Mr. Obama as an undergraduate, wrote last week in The Wall Street Journal. They contend that Mr. Obama is, indeed, a naïf for assuming that “the nuclear ambitions of Kim Jong-il or Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would be curtailed or abandoned in response to reductions in the American and Russian deterrent forces.”

Critics argue that the North Koreas of the world will simply defy the ban — and that the international community will fail to punish offenders.

“If the implications were not so serious, the discrepancy between Mr. Obama’s plans and real-world conditions would be hilarious,” said Frank J. Gaffney Jr., a Reagan-era Pentagon official who directs the Center for Security Policy, a private group in Washington. “There is only one country on earth that Team Obama can absolutely, positively denuclearize: Ours.”

Obama's adviser's defend his policy thus:

“We tried the unilateral way, in the Bush years, and it didn’t work,” a senior administration official said recently. “What we are trying is a fundamental change, a different view that says our security can be enhanced by arms control. There was a view for the past few years that treaties only constrained the good actors and not the bad actors.”

I pointed out the several factual & historical errors in that quote in my post #718 above. You should read that too. Furthermore, as Ben Hur pointed out, Bush already made a deal with Russia cutting back far more weapons than this one Obama is pushing.

To summarize: Obama's policy is unrealistic, naive, dangerous, ingeniousness and based upon an idiotic assumption of human nature.

1024 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:25:43am

re: #961 Honorary Yooper

This bothers the hell out of me. Those of us who question some of their solutions get tarred with the "denier" label as well for just not being in lock-step, goosestepping to the catastophists solutions beat.

In another time and another country, Al Gore would have made an excellent Brownshirt.

1025 jill e  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:25:56am

I got on my husband's email and entered him in the Michael Jackson memorial ticket lottery. He is quite the opposite of a Michael Jackson fan. The look on his face was PRICELESS when he logged on and read the rejection email!

Our house was struck by lightening last year and our vehicle was struck while driving through Wyoming on our honeymoon. I told him that I figured he had a better chance than most! Heh!

1026 poteen  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:26:02am

re: #1012 MandyManners

Actually, testicles are best displayed over one's mantle.

Stapled to one of your old retired whacksticks?

1027 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:27:09am

re: #1012 MandyManners

That's no bull.

1028 CommonCents  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:27:18am

re: #1017 buzzsawmonkey

You know he passed the Stimulus
Jacked up your tax bill
Gonna create free health care
With no money in the till
You know some people see the future
With terror in their eyes
But the President don't care
Long as he's self-aggrandized...

--with apologies to Steppenwolf

I would have never guessed the Steppenwolf correlation. I can't hear the music in your head when you're typing.

1029 [deleted]  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:28:26am
1030 jill e  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:29:16am

From Power Line:

This past Sunday the New York Times reported that in 1983, as a Columbia undergraduate, Barack Obama was among the useful idiots expressing high-minded disparagement of Reagan's defense policies. That's not exactly how the Times puts it, because reporters William Broad and David Sanger fail to supply the missing hsitorical context that Charen's book provides, and perhaps because the Times itself figures prominently among the useful idiots chronicled by Charen.

The Times article reports on Obama's 1983 article "Breaking the war mentality." The Times notes that in the article Obama railed against discussions of "first-versus second-strike capabilities" that "suit the military-industrial interests" with their "billion-dollar erector sets," and agitated for the elimination of global arsenals holding tens of thousands of deadly warheads.

The Times chooses to portray Obama's 1983 article as the early expression of his continuing pursuit of "a nuclear free world." While others may hope that Obama has outgrown his youthful radicalism, the Times suggests that he is fulfilling it. Unfortunately, that's true too.

1031 SixDegrees  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:30:08am

re: #910 Gus 802

Al Gore likens fight against climate change to battle with Nazis

Gore must be getting desperate for attention again. Climate change; Nazis; ManBearPig...

1032 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:31:40am

re: #987 Dark_Falcon

So do I. As I said: With the Norks we might get some help, but with Iran, forget about it. The key difference is that Iran has oil.

Russia doesn't need Iran's oil. BUT Russia benefits from any rise in the price of oil caused by increased tensions in the Persian Gulf. That's why Russia is willing to help Iran enough to alarm Israel and worry the US. It alos keeps US power entangled in the Middle East leaving Russia free to expand it's influence in the Caucasus, Central Asia and Eastern Europe. For Russia, whatever happens to Iran, (short of actual regime change) it's a win-win situation.

1033 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:31:48am

re: #1020 HoosierHoops

Hi Tony!
Personally...I never liked Micheal Jackson...But I thought it crass and tacky to spit on a dead man...He couldn't wait a few days till they bury him?
You don't have to adore him but crap give him a break...

Hi Hoosier ... I think King should have been more diplomatic in his choice of words, but I share his frustration over this spectacle, which has all but eliminated coverage of important news. If MJ was buried in a reasonable amount of time after his death (let's say a week), I would have no problem with the attention. But it's been 12 days straight of 24/7 coverage. iran and honduras have disappeared from the news and that is a really BAD thing.

1034 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:33:40am

re: #1012 MandyManners

Actually, testicles are best displayed over one's mantle.

That's it, I'm never going hunting with Mandy. (crossing legs uncomfortably)

1035 Gus  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:34:28am

re: #1031 SixDegrees

Gore must be getting desperate for attention again. Climate change; Nazis; ManBearPig...

To think he could have become president. But, he's part of the long "thin" line from the Democrat Party: Al Gore, John Kerry and Barack Obama.

1036 laZardo  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:34:50am

re: #1034 Kenneth

If you had to choose between her or Dick Cheney...

/ new-oldest joke in the book?

1037 Millicent Islam  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:43:24am

re: #1021 Iron Fist

Except for people with certain rare genetic disorders, I see the whole "transsexual" thing as a mental illness that should be treated with therapy not surgery. A man (chromosome pattern XY) who thinks he is a woman (chromosome pattern XX) is at least somewhat delusional. Their genetics are what they were born with and are immutable. No amount of surgery and hormone treatments will make a woman out of a man. They only make a fancied up eunuch.

In the genuine cases though, not the cases where someone is mentally ill, it seems to be about a lot more than the mere chromosome pattern-- or even the genitalia. We all have both testosterone and estrogen in us, whether we're male or female, and the developing embryo gets hit with blasts of each hormone during the developmental cycle, regardless of what sex the baby is eventually born with. As far as I've followed this, the last research I'd heard of speculated that the condition does involve something happening in the womb, something happening concerning the hormone level at a crucial point in the fetus' brain development. But no one knows yet exactly what or when.

You can't go through with sex-reassignment surgery in the US until you've had extensive psychological testing, therapy, and the above mentioned requirement that one live as a person of the other sex for at least one year. All of this is to rule out the cases where someone's gender confusion is the result of a psychological disturbance. I seem to recall that they also require that the patient's gender issue have been persistent since childhood. You can't just wake up at 20 or 30 and decide you'd rather be the other gender.

There does seem to be a real condition here, which doesn't reduce to genetics. How prevalent it actually is and what the causes are currently remain unknown.

1038 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:44:40am

re: #1030 jill e

Barack Obama was among the useful idiots expressing high-minded disparagement of Reagan's defense policies.

and from the NYT article on this topic:

The popular response was the nuclear freeze movement. Dozens of books warned that Mr. Reagan’s policies threatened to end civilization and most life on Earth. In June 1982, a million protesters gathered in Central Park, their placards reading “Bread Not Bombs” and “Freeze or Burn.” The nation’s Roman Catholic bishops issued a pastoral letter denouncing nuclear war.

Since the collapse of the USSR it has been discovered & well documented, that the KGB had infiltrated, directed & paid the leadership of many Western nuclear freeze campaigns. The USSR understood how Reagan's strategy was going to bring down their evil empire and they responded by using their sympathetic contacts in the Western peace movement, including useful fools like the Columbia undergrad, Barrack Obama.


The Times article reports on Obama's 1983 article "Breaking the war mentality." The Times notes that in the article Obama railed against discussions of "first-versus second-strike capabilities" that "suit the military-industrial interests" with their "billion-dollar erector sets," and agitated for the elimination of global arsenals holding tens of thousands of deadly warheads.

A most curious choice of words: "billion dollar erector sets" ...a phrase which combines money, power, sex and children's toys. Young Barry was still mad at his dad.

1039 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:44:47am

re: #1012 MandyManners

Actually, testicles are best displayed over one's mantle.

I actually saw a pair of fake plastic testicles hanging from a trailer hitch on the back of a pickup truck here in Connecticut. It was disgusting and hilarious all at once.

1040 justabill  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:47:33am

re: #979 SixDegrees

Tom Waits will be starring in Terry Gilliam's upcoming film, The Imaginarium of Dr. Parnassus, as Satan. Which makes it a must-see, in my opinion.

What, George W Bush wasn't available?
///(is this enough slashes?)

1041 Kenneth  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:47:40am

re: #1037 iceweasel

There are disorders in which a person's sense of identity is highly transitory and may for a while think he is a she or visa-versa. That's why there are these long wait periods of living as the other gender before the surgery, as you pointed out.

1042 Millicent Islam  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:48:01am

re: #1039 _RememberTonyC

I actually saw a pair of fake plastic testicles hanging from a trailer hitch on the back of a pickup truck here in Connecticut. It was disgusting and hilarious all at once.

Nutz for your Truck
[Link: www.thatsnutz.com...]

(sort of SFW?)

They're everywhere now.

1043 SummerSong  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:48:41am

re: #957 Walter L. Newton

The Ellan Heart Pena Story (MOTW - movie of the week )
Strangeland (feature film with Dee Synder)
The 3 Ninga's - High Noon at Mega Mountain (feature)
Asteroid (MOTW - NBC)
Twisted Path (indie feature)
Tiger Street (indie - direct to cable)
The Shining (TV version)

That's cool, Walter!

My youngest was in the movie "Brick". It's fun to see him on film.

1044 Millicent Islam  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:54:19am

re: #1041 Kenneth

There are disorders in which a person's sense of identity is highly transitory and may for a while think he is a she or visa-versa. That's why there are these long wait periods of living as the other gender before the surgery, as you pointed out.

Exactly. There are many conditions that involve what psychologists call disturbances of identity, and many conditions that involve 'depersonalisation' or 'derealisation': a feeling that one isn't really a person, a sense of unreality about the world around them. There are lots of different syndromes and conditions that manifest those symptoms.

I think that's also why they require that the gender confusion be persistent (since childhood) and stable: it can't be something that comes and goes.

It's actually extremely difficult to get approval for the surgery. Only a couple of places in the US do it, and they make the testing very rigorous.

(People might remember in silence of the lambs Hannibal tips off Clarice that the killer isn't a true transexual, he just thinks he is: and he tells her to look in the records of those hospitals for someone who failed the psych tests to qualify as a true transexual.)

1045 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:56:54am

re: #1042 iceweasel

Nutz for your Truck
[Link: www.thatsnutz.com...]

(sort of SFW?)

They're everywhere now.

LOL ... the world has gone ... um ... nutz

1046 Millicent Islam  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:58:25am

re: #1045 _RememberTonyC

LOL ... the world has gone ... um ... nutz

Creepy, aren't they? Yikes.

I have to take off. Cheers, all. Have fun!

1047 _RememberTonyC  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 10:00:55am

re: #1046 iceweasel

Creepy, aren't they? Yikes.

I have to take off. Cheers, all. Have fun!


Later Ice

1048 avanti  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 10:03:21am

re: #1019 Kosh's Shadow

They combined the ongoing resolutions to fund operations in Afghanistan and Iraq with the regular defense budget. If you compare the old regular defense budget with the new one, it went up; if you compare the total of the budget plus operations, it went down significantly.

Not true, they are still separate. It was only a 5-6 % increase, but a increase.

1049 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 10:06:26am

re: #1043 SummerSong

That's cool, Walter!

My youngest was in the movie "Brick". It's fun to see him on film.

Excellent movie! Joseph Gordon Levitt has really grown up to be a fine actor.

1050 Rancher  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 10:42:23am

re: #998 laZardo

"This 'bullshit pork' will actually go to vital categories like education and infrastructure repair that will help Americans who need it, rather than killing people from other countries for greedy corporate interests!"

/they're still saying that.

Infrastructure like Microsoft's bridge. I guess Microsoft isn't a greed corporation because it's a big Dem contributor.

1051 sngnsgt  Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:51:06am

I'm over all this MJ stuff, time to move on.


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