LGF Palin Approval Polls
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A couple of silly Internet polls, asking some Palinesque questions:
1002 comments
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:34:14am |
I don't know if I like her.
But I know who and how much they hate her.
And I don't like them.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:34:48am |
I think a poll question like this would be good:
Who do you want to get the 2012 GOP nomination for President:
a/ Sarah Palin
b/Mitt Romney
c/neither
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MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:35:09am |
If she did what she thought was right, then I think that's enough, and I support it.
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:35:17am |
I would like to see her run for the House or Senate and gain some experience there. She scares the shit out of the Dems and that's all right by me.
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MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:36:09am |
re: #5 buzzsawmonkey
Some people say the Internet has enough silly Web polls
I look around me and I see it isn't so
Some people want to fill the Internet with silly Web polls
And what's wrong with that, I'd like to know?
So here I go, again...
Wings sucked, but that's a good parody. :)
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:36:30am |
re: #4 _RememberTonyC
I think a poll question like this would be good:
Who do you want to get the 2012 GOP nomination for President:
a/ Sarah Palin
b/Mitt Romney
c/neither
By the way .... I choose "b"
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Kragar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:36:32am |
re: #4 _RememberTonyC
I think a poll question like this would be good:
Who do you want to get the 2012 GOP nomination for President:
a/ Sarah Palin
b/Mitt Romney
c/neither
B
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RunningBare Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:36:45am |
The way I figure it, is if the Left hates her so much, that they feel the need to constantly attack attack attack her, well, then she must be doing something right. Works for me.
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LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:37:16am |
re: #3 Ben Hur
I don't know if I like her.
But I know who and how much they hate her.
And I don't like them.
The more they hate her, the more I like her.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:38:14am |
I don't know how to answer that second question.
There's Palin the person, who I like immensely.
There's Palin the politician, who I don't think is ready for the big-time.
How to vote?
suggestions?
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Ringo the Gringo Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:38:34am |
I doubt that she even intends to run President.
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Dahveed Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:38:40am |
re: #4 _RememberTonyC
I think a poll question like this would be good:
Who do you want to get the 2012 GOP nomination for President:
a/ Sarah Palin
b/Mitt Romney
c/neither
B
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:38:59am |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:39:46am |
re: #4 _RememberTonyC
I think a poll question like this would be good:
Who do you want to get the 2012 GOP nomination for President:
a/ Sarah Palin
b/Mitt Romney
c/neither
B
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:39:55am |
re: #14 reine.de.tout
I don't know how to answer that second question.
There's Palin the person, who I like immensely.
There's Palin the politician, who I don't think is ready for the big-time.How to vote?
I voted "somewhat approve".
suggestions?
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:40:18am |
re: #17 Sharmuta
Go neutral then.
I think I'm going to vote based on Palin the person, not Palin the politician.
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saylorfam Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:40:18am |
I did look but I couldn't find the category of "Who gives a shit"
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:40:38am |
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hazzyday Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:40:40am |
My theory is the strict parent theory. GWB and Sarah Palin remind the kids that vote of their worst parenting nightmares. Be responsible, Be honest...do your homework first, eat your vegetables, etc.
Bill Clinton was like their lovable permissive alcoholic father. No boundaries. let him drink and they party away.
Freudian issues.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:41:15am |
re: #23 reine.de.tout
I think I'm going to vote based on Palin the person, not Palin the politician.
That's what I did.
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:41:36am |
re: #25 reine.de.tout
yessum, you did LOL.
What?
Do not type your reply within the text you are quoting!
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:42:24am |
re: #14 reine.de.tout
I don't know how to answer that second question.
There's Palin the person, who I like immensely.
There's Palin the politician, who I don't think is ready for the big-time.How to vote?
suggestions?
neutral
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:42:29am |
re: #28 redstateredneck
Do not type your reply within the text you are quoting!
No kidding.
My biggie is I select and "quote" text when I intend to select and "italicize" text.
that looks really weird.
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LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:42:34am |
Polls have only one use IMO and that is to manipulate public opinion - they support and propogate the herd instinct. They certainly have no bearing on the facts behind what is being polled.
A poll on people's belief in extraterrestrial life has exactly zero impact on whether such life exists or not.
Same with polls.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:43:24am |
re: #28 redstateredneck
Do not type your reply ... what do you mean by that? ... within the text you are quoting!
:D
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:43:25am |
re: #14 reine.de.tout
I don't know how to answer that second question.
There's Palin the person, who I like immensely.
There's Palin the politician, who I don't think is ready for the big-time.How to vote?
suggestions?
present
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ZekeMan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:43:27am |
From the pole results (it hurt her and they strongly approve of the decision) one could deduce the folks were glad she did this because it hurt her chances for the presidential nomination .
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:44:14am |
Looks like Romney has a lot of support among the lizard demographic group.
Michael Steele .... are you listening, Dawg?
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Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:44:20am |
re: #26 hazzyday
My theory is the strict parent theory. GWB and Sarah Palin remind the kids that vote of their worst parenting nightmares. Be responsible, Be honest...do your homework first, eat your vegetables, etc.
Bill Clinton was like their lovable permissive alcoholic philandering father. No boundaries. let him drink and they party away.
Freudian issues.
Added one for you.
But this doesn't explain Obama. He doesn't seem like a fun guy, either.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:44:40am |
she is a bumpkin who has no idea what the hell is going on.
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Dahveed Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:45:24am |
I voted the "Somewhat Approve". I like her, but I think that decision making skills are an important part of a person's character. And the past few days have shown Palin's decision making skills to be a little suspect.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:45:35am |
re: #36 Kosh's Shadow
Added one for you.
But this doesn't explain Obama. He doesn't seem like a fun guy, either.
But Obama is "cool". Just ask him. He'll tell you.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:45:46am |
re: #31 LGoPs
Polls have only one use IMO and that is to manipulate public opinion - they support and propogate the herd instinct. They certainly have no bearing on the facts behind what is being polled.
A poll on people's belief in extraterrestrial life has exactly zero impact on whether such life exists or not.
Same with polls.
I agree, if and when the polling results are publicized.
When kept privately, it's not the same.
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MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:45:52am |
re: #37 SpaceJesus
she is a bumpkin who has no idea what the hell is going on.
I'd that that "bumpkin" over and above our current resident morons in charge.
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zombie Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:46:22am |
Hmmmmmm...as of this writing, Palin has only a 23% negative rating amongst LGFers. Thjat's pretty good! Better than I even expected! And I'm sure her ratings would be even more positive on other more identifibly "conservative" blogs.
If Palin can be winning by at least a 2-1 margin on a "third way" site like LGF, I think she actually has a pretty good chance nationwide, because she's sure to lock up all the social conservatives in addition to us "9/11 neo-cons" or whatever the hell you want to call us..
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LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:46:52am |
re: #14 reine.de.tout
I don't know how to answer that second question.
There's Palin the person, who I like immensely.
There's Palin the politician, who I don't think is ready for the big-time.How to vote?
suggestions?
Reine - how do you reconcile Palin's readiness for office with Obama's even thinner credentials? I'm not attacking you and I'm almost certain you didn't support Obama. It just seems to me that once Obama got a pass, that issue should be off the table.
Again, not arguing, just curious.
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flyovercountry Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:47:16am |
All other considerations aside, Anyone who accepts a job in public office should fulfill their commitments, no matter how tough it gets. For those who say she did not want to keep the position while campaigning, she kept it while campaigning for Vice President. I don't believe for a second that she wasn't lobbying hard for the Veep spot for a long time prior to being named, as these things are never decided spur of the moment. I'm still looking for Duncan Hunter in 2012. Mitt would be a close second.
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:47:29am |
re: #37 SpaceJesus
she is a bumpkin who has no idea what the hell is going on.
And what mainstream media source do you work for?
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:47:56am |
I think that not being a sitting officeholder hurts her. But then, the MSM and the Hollyweird types despise her, so it won't matter what she does or doesn't do - she'll never get any positive press.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:48:20am |
re: #37 SpaceJesus
she is a bumpkin who has no idea what the hell is going on.
Ah, shut up, ya' fucking freak.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:48:29am |
Interesting results. Most people think she made a her resignation was a bad move but most people also give her a strong approval rating.
I don't get it.
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Adrenalyn Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:48:35am |
I might have to change my approval vote to disapproval
looking at the prior thread
I see her minions are trying some major attacks in Britain
dang, I knew she was pissed......but......
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:48:49am |
re: #29 _RememberTonyC
neutral
re: #33 albusteve
present
In these things I never vote "neutral". It's like voting "present". Which has no point to it whatsoever.
Back when I had to work for a living, the agency I worked for proposed a change to the HR rules (laws) governing state employment.
So of course there was a public hearing on the proposed change.
A group consisting of agency HR people came to the meeting, and got up and said, "We neither support nor object" to the proposed changes.
WTF? What was the point of that? Offer something constructive. If you can't, then don't be surprised when later, no one takes your complaints seriously.
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MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:49:11am |
re: #41 MrSilverDragon
I'd
thattake that "bumpkin" over and above our current resident morons in charge.
Grammar and sentence structure, you win THIS round, but next time...
/pimf
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capitalist piglet Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:49:38am |
re: #50 Killgore Trout
Interesting results. Most people think she made a her resignation was a bad move but most people also give her a strong approval rating.
I don't get it.
If you combine results that it helped, or neither helped nor hurt, I don't think that's true (at least right now).
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:49:39am |
re: #43 zombie
Hmmmmmm...as of this writing, Palin has only a 23% negative rating amongst LGFers. Thjat's pretty good! Better than I even expected! And I'm sure her ratings would be even more positive on other more identifibly "conservative" blogs.
If Palin can be winning by at least a 2-1 margin on a "third way" site like LGF, I think she actually has a pretty good chance nationwide, because she's sure to lock up all the social conservatives in addition to us "9/11 neo-cons" or whatever the hell you want to call us..
agreed...her chances for (whatever) right now are exactly the same as anybody else...all this stuff about quitting, and failing and career in the tank is nonsense...there is nothing new in politics
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:49:45am |
re: #37 SpaceJesus
she is a bumpkin who has no idea what the hell is going on.
I just love it when you show up. It always brings surprises. I never know whether it will be a day that I'm going to ding you up, or a day when I'm going to ding you down.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:49:46am |
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:49:55am |
re: #51 Adrenalyn
I might have to change my approval vote to disapproval
looking at the prior thread
I see her minions are trying some major attacks in Britaindang, I knew she was pissed......but......
I think you've got her mixed up with Michael Palin.
/
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:50:02am |
re: #50 Killgore Trout
Interesting results. Most people think she made a her resignation was a bad move but most people also give her a strong approval rating.
I don't get it.
her resignation speech was an 8 minute rant slash basketball metaphor.
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RunningBare Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:50:08am |
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zombie Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:50:11am |
re: #37 SpaceJesus
she is a bumpkin who has no idea what the hell is going on.
Which is a very reason to vote for her.
Or do you prefer corrupt inside-the-beltway DC-lifers who know every in and out of the political scene -- and have palms and nether regions greased by lobbyists on a daily basis?
Give me the outsider bumpkin every time.
Maybe you need to re-watch "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington."
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Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:50:19am |
re: #52 reine.de.tout
In these things I never vote "neutral". It's like voting "present". Which has no point to it whatsoever.
Back when I had to work for a living, the agency I worked for proposed a change to the HR rules (laws) governing state employment.
So of course there was a public hearing on the proposed change.
A group consisting of agency HR people came to the meeting, and got up and said, "We neither support nor object" to the proposed changes.
WTF? What was the point of that? Offer something constructive. If you can't, then don't be surprised when later, no one takes your complaints seriously.
It got that group a day away from their regular offices.
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lawhawk Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:50:19am |
So, voted that it neither helped nor hurt her 2012 chances. Right now, there's no way to know and it's real early to handicap the 2012 race when no one knows who else might run, the issues that will be of utmost importance, or what kind of condition the nation will be in after Obamanaia.
My impression of Palin is that the immediate result of the resignation is bad, but the long term is likely neutral, trending good since she could use the time and effort to build up a ground game and work on building a war chest to go after 2012 if that's indeed her choice.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:50:20am |
re: #51 Adrenalyn
I might have to change my approval vote to disapproval
looking at the prior thread
I see her minions are trying some major attacks in Britaindang, I knew she was pissed......but......
why would you post that? Even with a sarc tag, it is not funny.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:50:23am |
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lostlakehiker Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:50:37am |
One thing that always struck me as funny when it came to polls was how few people choose "unsure" when given the option, and asked something such as "will the market go up over the coming year?"
In most such questions, however obscure and imponderable, the bulk of the responses will be split between yes and no, with only a few who are unsure.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were few "unsure" responses to a question about who would win the coin toss before kickoff in the next super bowl.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:50:44am |
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zombie Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:50:51am |
re: #61 zombie
Which is a very reason to vote for her.
=
Which is a very GOOD reason to vote for her.
PIMF
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:51:45am |
re: #46 flyovercountry
There definitely a growing power vacuum at the top of the GOP. Anything can happen in 2012. I'm starting to think the next nominee will be someone we've never even heard of before. Possibly even someone who isn't even in politics yet.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:51:57am |
re: #45 LGoPs
Reine - how do you reconcile Palin's readiness for office with Obama's even thinner credentials? I'm not attacking you and I'm almost certain you didn't support Obama. It just seems to me that once Obama got a pass, that issue should be off the table.
Again, not arguing, just curious.
No, I did not support Obama, and I can't reconcile it. I actually think Palin has a better grasp of things than Obama; she at least has made decisions while Obama was voting "present".
It's her ability to campaign seriously at a national level, over an extended period of time, that I think she's not ready for. I would love to be proved wrong.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:52:01am |
Well...the rail industry is getting its ass handed to it on the market toady:
Burlington Northern-Santa Fe- down 4.1%
CSX Transportation- down 3.1%
Canadian National- down 5.59%
Canadian Pacific- down 5.17%
Kansas City Southern- down 4.15%
Norfolk Southern- down 2.53%
Union Pacific- down 2.82%
Shortline outfits like Providence & Worcester or Genessee & Wyoming are also either down or trading extremely light today.
/What's that they say about transportation being a baromoter for the rest of the economy?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:52:18am |
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:52:22am |
re: #70 Killgore Trout
There definitely a growing power vacuum at the top of the GOP. Anything can happen in 2012. I'm starting to think the next nominee will be someone we've never even heard of before. Possibly even someone who isn't even in politics yet.
Jon Voight!
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zombie Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:52:31am |
re: #70 Killgore Trout
There definitely a growing power vacuum at the top of the GOP. Anything can happen in 2012. I'm starting to think the next nominee will be someone we've never even heard of before. Possibly even someone who isn't even in politics yet.
Someone of the Kinky Freeman vein, possibly.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:52:46am |
re: #54 capitalist piglet
If you combine results that it helped, or neither helped nor hurt, I don't think that's true (at least right now).
Ah, ok. That makes sense.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:52:47am |
I don't know why she quit, so, I don't know if it hurt her or how I feel about her.
If she intends to run for president, than my answers would be different than if she doesn't plan to run.
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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:52:51am |
I gave her "somewhat disapprove." I think she should have served out her term. I like her a lot as an individual, though, and I think she did what she had to do for her family.
Under normal circumstances, she would have become an item in the "Where are They Now?" file the day after the election. The late night comedians and the people who think they're comedians should have moved on to more current topics, including the new administration. But since The Obamessiah is off limits, Letterman and the rest keep dragging her through the mud.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:53:01am |
re: #52 reine.de.tout
In these things I never vote "neutral". It's like voting "present". Which has no point to it whatsoever.
Back when I had to work for a living, the agency I worked for proposed a change to the HR rules (laws) governing state employment.
So of course there was a public hearing on the proposed change.
A group consisting of agency HR people came to the meeting, and got up and said, "We neither support nor object" to the proposed changes.
WTF? What was the point of that? Offer something constructive. If you can't, then don't be surprised when later, no one takes your complaints seriously.
As much as LGF means to me, the poll question is strictly for fun. On any matter of real importance, I would not vote "neutral" unless both sides had equally solid arguments and there was no difference to me. In the case of Sarah Palin, I like her, but not as the POTUS. And as a result, a vote of neutral really is appropriate here.
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D'kian_ Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:53:12am |
For a silly poll (and I stress the word "silly") in the approval part, shouldn't you have added "She's hot"?
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horse Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:53:19am |
Thank you for including the option of "I don't know". A decade or more ago her action would have definitely hurt her. But in today's unpredictable world of politics where total buffoons with no practical experience or results get nominated and/or elected, I truly do not know if this action will ultimately hurt or help her. Having read both sides of the spin, it appears dependent on what she does over the next few years.
If she does the hard work of preparing and networking (like Jeb Bush did in Florida) it could help her, but she has one huge hill to climb.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:53:21am |
re: #51 Adrenalyn
Was that supposed to be "sarc"?
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:53:25am |
re: #37 SpaceJesus
she is a bumpkin who has no idea what the hell is going on.
People seem to forget that she actually runs a state.
A state, that if in Europe would be its own country, yes?
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:53:41am |
re: #61 zombie
Which is a very reason to vote for her.
Or do you prefer corrupt inside-the-beltway DC-lifers who know every in and out of the political scene -- and have palms and nether regions greased by lobbyists on a daily basis?
Give me the outsider bumpkin every time.
Maybe you need to re-watch "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington."
Is that anything like "Spacejesus is off his meds?"
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:53:53am |
re: #59 SpaceJesus
Yeah, I watched it again this morning. The over explained basketball analogy was pretty bad.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:53:53am |
re: #61 zombie
Which is a very reason to vote for her.
Or do you prefer corrupt inside-the-beltway DC-lifers who know every in and out of the political scene -- and have palms and nether regions greased by lobbyists on a daily basis?
Give me the outsider bumpkin every time.
Maybe you need to re-watch "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington."
no. I don't like politicians period. I would like educated, hard-working people with successful private sector experience running the show. Palin is the exact opposite of those things.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:54:27am |
re: #78 Walter L. Newton
I don't know why she quit, so, I don't know if it hurt her or how I feel about her.
If she intends to run for president, than my answers would be different than if she doesn't plan to run.
remember the 'Checkers' speech
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:54:29am |
re: #80 _RememberTonyC
As much as LGF means to me, the poll question is strictly for fun. On any matter of real importance, I would not vote "neutral" unless both sides had equally solid arguments and there was no difference to me. In the case of Sarah Palin, I like her, but not as the POTUS. And as a result, a vote of neutral really is appropriate here.
Well, sure, on a silly internet poll, a vote of "neutral" is a big deal.
I'm just not wired that way, though.
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LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:54:31am |
re: #71 reine.de.tout
No, I did not support Obama, and I can't reconcile it. I actually think Palin has a better grasp of things than Obama; she at least has made decisions while Obama was voting "present".
It's her ability to campaign seriously at a national level, over an extended period of time, that I think she's not ready for. I would love to be proved wrong.
Thanks. I agree.
:)
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:54:54am |
re: #87 SpaceJesus
no. I don't like politicians period. I would like educated, hard-working people with successful private sector experience running the show. Palin is the exact opposite of those things.
She's not educated? She didn't work hard?
Don't bother to answer. Just go piss up a rope instead.
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:54:57am |
re: #87 SpaceJesus
no. I don't like politicians period. I would like educated, hard-working people with successful private sector experience running the show. Palin is the exact opposite of those things.
And Obama is...?
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:55:07am |
re: #84 Ben Hur
People seem to forget that she actually runs a state.
A state, that if in Europe would be its own country, yes?
a state, that if in Europe and run by Palin, would have been conquered by Lichtenstein in 5 minutes.
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Kragar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:55:36am |
I'm still neutral on her, exactly the same place she was when she was nominated as VP. My support for her and McCain hinged on them being the only viable alternative to Obama. I think conservatives and moderates would be a lot better off with Romney and his approach to government than with Palin.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:55:38am |
re: #87 SpaceJesus
no. I don't like politicians period. I would like educated, hard-working people with successful private sector experience running the show. Palin is the exact opposite of those things.
She's not educated, hard-working, or with successful private sector experience?
Since when? Since Kos told you that, or what?
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zombie Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:55:40am |
re: #79 doppelganglander
Under normal circumstances, she would have become an item in the "Where are They Now?" file the day after the election.
Remember the national craze for Geraldine Ferraro?
Dan Quayle?
Spiro T. Agnew?
Funny, neither do I.
Never has a losing VP candidate been so popular.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:56:01am |
re: #61 zombie
Maybe you need to re-watch "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington."
Sounds like you want to Jimmy the door to the smoke-filled room.
/sorry, couldn't help it ... :D
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MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:56:21am |
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:56:24am |
re: #87 SpaceJesus
no. I don't like politicians period. I would like educated, hard-working people with successful private sector experience running the show. Palin is the exact opposite of those things.
How is she the exact opposite of those things? She's educated, just not Ivy League; she's run a business with her husband, just not a Fortune 500 company.
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:56:25am |
re: #93 SpaceJesus
a state, that if in Europe and run by Palin, would have been conquered by Lichtenstein in 5 minutes.
Strange how nobody in her own state thought that until the lower state pundits started attacking her.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:57:10am |
re: #91 MandyManners
She's not educated? She didn't work hard?
Don't bother to answer. Just go piss up a rope instead.
she went to about 27 different community colleges to get her degree in gen. studies or journalism or whatever. the lady doesn't have an ounce of sticktoitiveness in her body.
also being a beauty pageant and a sports reporter aren't exactly the most difficult jobs in the world.
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Eowyn2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:57:13am |
re: #7 redstateredneck
I would like to see her run for the House or Senate and gain some experience there. She scares the shit out of the Dems and that's all right by me.
If that is her plan, I think she will wait until Trig is in school and Willow is a bit older. It must be unnerving to have the press following your kid around waiting for her to do something 'unseemly'
She can win in AK or ID since she is from ID to begin with and it is a fairly conservative state.
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tedzilla99 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:57:26am |
re: #36 Kosh's Shadow
Added one for you.
But this doesn't explain Obama. He doesn't seem like a fun guy, either.
Obama is the divorced daddy who sees the kids every other weekend and gives em whatever they want, so he can still be the cool dad.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:57:27am |
re: #70 Killgore Trout
There definitely a growing power vacuum at the top of the GOP. Anything can happen in 2012. I'm starting to think the next nominee will be someone we've never even heard of before. Possibly even someone who isn't even in politics yet.
Hey, you never know.
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LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:57:41am |
re: #93 SpaceJesus
a state, that if in Europe and run by Palin, would have been conquered by Lichtenstein in 5 minutes.
You are full of rhinoceros kaka
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Dahveed Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:57:58am |
re: #87 SpaceJesus
no. I don't like politicians period. I would like educated, hard-working people with successful private sector experience running the show. Palin is the exact opposite of those things.
So you think that Palin is no different than Pelosi, Reid, Franks, Byrd, Rangel, etc? I am not a big fan of politicians either, but I give her far more credit than that.
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Ward Cleaver Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:58:06am |
re: #102 SpaceJesus
she went to about 27 different community colleges to get her degree in gen. studies or journalism or whatever. the lady doesn't have an ounce of sticktoitiveness in her body.
also being a beauty pageant and a sports reporter aren't exactly the most difficult jobs in the world.
How many states have you run?
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:58:17am |
re: #102 SpaceJesus
she went to about 27 different community colleges to get her degree in gen. studies or journalism or whatever. the lady doesn't have an ounce of sticktoitiveness in her body.
also being a beauty pageant and a sports reporter aren't exactly the most difficult jobs in the world.
nobody's perfect
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:58:28am |
re: #93 SpaceJesus
a state, that if in Europe and run by Palin, would have been conquered by Lichtenstein in 5 minutes.
The Alaska National Guard, of which Governor Palin is Commander in Chief, would whip most European countries in a straight out shooing war.
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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:58:29am |
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:58:29am |
re: #103 Eowyn2
If that is her plan, I think she will wait until Trig is in school and Willow is a bit older. It must be unnerving to have the press following your kid around waiting for her to do something 'unseemly'
She can win in AK or ID since she is from ID to begin with and it is a fairly conservative state.
She's only what...45? She's got plenty of time. In the meantime, look for her to do some fundraising for the Republican party and Republican candidates.
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Adrenalyn Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:58:37am |
re: #83 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Was that supposed to be "sarc"?
you betcha !
sheesh.....after all these years
you'd think LGF'ers would know my sense of humor
no wonder little kids and stray dogs run from me
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capitalist piglet Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:58:37am |
re: #93 SpaceJesus
a state, that if in Europe and run by Palin, would have been conquered by Lichtenstein in 5 minutes.
I'm waiting for you to post something that's based on something besides your wild imagination and anti-conservative fantasies.
Am I wasting my time?
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:59:07am |
re: #96 capitalist piglet
She's not educated, hard-working, or with successful private sector experience?
Since when? Since Kos told you that, or what?
I haven't been allowed at the daily kos for years.
But yes, Palin is not qualified whatsoever.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:59:29am |
re: #102 SpaceJesus
she went to about 27 different community colleges to get her degree in gen. studies or journalism or whatever. the lady doesn't have an ounce of sticktoitiveness in her body.
also being a beauty pageant and a sports reporter aren't exactly the most difficult jobs in the world.
I'll bet she knows that sentences are usually started with the BIG letters.
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wintercat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:59:35am |
I was just researching online to see what I could find about the ethics complaints that have been filed against Palin. Anchorage Daily News article.Interestingly, if the article is accurate, the first complaint was filed against her one month prior to McCain naming her. There was speculation prior to his announcement that she might be chosen so I find the ethics complaints timing somewhat interesting. Possible preemptive strike? Her name was being floated. It was even on LGF at least a month before the McCain announcement. So is it possible? Maybe, maybe not just coincidence. But since her nomination there have been 15 maybe more. And if you look at the nature of the complaints, they are really trivial. Obviously designed to destroy her for any future run ("Palin has numerous ethics complaints against her") or to keep her so busy that she can't peform her job. It really is understandable that she just said enough. This stuff could go on forever and would eventually cripple any person no matter how tough they were.
My first reaction to her resignation was disappointment and saddness. Now, I am thinking she might be right. And I read a quote of hers from the other day. She said, "Well, if I die, I die." I think this woman has guts to spare. She follows her gut. Going forward as a civilian critic with full freedom of speech, she's going to be a major pain in the butt for Obama and the dems.
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jcm Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:59:45am |
re: #108 Ward Cleaver
How many states have you run?
How many old boy networks have you (SJ not WC) kicked in the ass?
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flyovercountry Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:59:48am |
Re: #70 Kilgore Trout
There definitely a growing power vacuum at the top of the GOP. Anything can happen in 2012. I'm starting to think the next nominee will be someone we've never even heard of before. Possibly even someone who isn't even in politics yet.
Agreed, but I still don't like the resignation. It sends a very poor message about commitment to doing the job she initially asked to do. Nobody knocked on Sarah's door and said we're going to make you Governor against your will. Mrs. Palin ran, and in so doing impied she would see the job through. Whatever here ambitions are or aren't, she owes the people of Alaska more than what she gave them. That will make a difference for me. As for who is around in 2012, is not that important to me right now. I am looking for that person who most reflects my values, and principles. those people I speak of, are just the best current guesses.
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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 11:59:58am |
re: #102 SpaceJesus
she went to about 27 different community colleges to get her degree in gen. studies or journalism or whatever. the lady doesn't have an ounce of sticktoitiveness in her body.
also being a beauty pageant and a sports reporter aren't exactly the most difficult jobs in the world.
It may come as a tremendous shock to you that not everyone has Mommy and Daddy paying for their four-year vacation in the Ivy League. Sarah worked her way through school. She transferred, took semesters off, and took classes for transfer at a less expensive school because that's the only way she could do it. I think it shows tremendous sticktoitiveness.
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zombie Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:00:10pm |
re: #111 taxfreekiller
Kinkey is a life long Democrat.
I know that, but he's the kind of "unexpected outsider not formerly in politics" that Killgore was referring to.
I didn't mean him specifically, but someone of that type.
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:00:12pm |
re: #118 capitalist piglet
I'll bet she knows that sentences are usually started with the BIG letters.
Good one!
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:00:17pm |
re: #61 zombie
Which is a very reason to vote for her.
Or do you prefer corrupt inside-the-beltway DC-lifers who know every in and out of the political scene -- and have palms and nether regions greased by lobbyists on a daily basis?
Give me the outsider bumpkin every time.
Maybe you need to re-watch "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington."
I'm surprised at your strong support for a creationist.
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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:00:24pm |
Hurt her chances ~= Strongly approve. I predict that this remains true.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:00:27pm |
re: #107 Dahveed
So you think that Palin is no different than Pelosi, Reid, Franks, Byrd, Rangel, etc? I am not a big fan of politicians either, but I give her far more credit than that.
sure, pelosi is completely batshit nuts. it's like a child in an old, crazy person's body. don't just assume that because I think Palin is a joke of a leader that I am a democrat here.
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ointmentfly Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:01:15pm |
re: #95 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'm still neutral on her, exactly the same place she was when she was nominated as VP. My support for her and McCain hinged on them being the only viable alternative to Obama. I think conservatives and moderates would be a lot better off with Romney and his approach to government than with Palin.
After 3 more years of Obama and possibly this freakshow of a congress, we are not going to be running to an ideologue like Palin, who also made it clear she can't stand toe to toe with somebody like Obama in debate. I think Romney is a shoe in.
BTW - I think she was on the money by resigning. The establishment on both sides of the aisle made it impossible for her to govern. Had it only been from one side, maybe she should have stayed.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:01:24pm |
re: #93 SpaceJesus
a state, that if in Europe and run by Palin, would have been conquered by Lichtenstein in 5 minutes.
I bet she knows how to spell that.
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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:01:34pm |
re: #70 Killgore Trout
There definitely a growing power vacuum at the top of the GOP. Anything can happen in 2012. I'm starting to think the next nominee will be someone we've never even heard of before. Possibly even someone who isn't even in politics yet.
Agreed. It's almost going to have to be.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:01:47pm |
re: #118 capitalist piglet
I'll bet she knows that sentences are usually started with the BIG letters.
I wonder if she also knows that when you add emphasis to a word, you don't capitalize it-- you use italics.
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Spider Mensch Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:02:03pm |
Sarah Palin: "She puts the Bump in Bumpkin!" catchy...:))
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:02:08pm |
re: #102 SpaceJesus
After graduating from high school in 1982, she enrolled at Hawaii Pacific College in Honolulu. She left after one semester and transferred to North Idaho College, a community college in Coeur d'Alene and spent two semesters as a general studies major in 1983.In August 1984, she transferred to the University of Idaho in Moscow, Idaho, where her older brother, Charles W. Heath, was majoring in education.[17] After two semesters at UI, Palin returned to Alaska and attended Matanuska-Susitna College, a community college in Palmer, for one term in the fall of 1985. She returned to the University of Idaho in January 1986, where she spent three semesters completing her bachelor's degree in communications-journalism, graduating in May 1987.[17]
I count 5 colleges. When you have to work your own way through college on your own dime that's what it takes.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:02:15pm |
re: #128 SpaceJesus
sure, pelosi is completely batshit nuts. it's like a child in an old, crazy person's body. don't just assume that because I think Palin is a joke of a leader that I am a democrat here.
Is Obama a joke?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:02:20pm |
OT: Amazing Homes Of World Leaders (VOTE!)
Take the HuffPost Poll of World Leaders' Residences - compare the photos and vote for your favorite.
The White House is in the middle of the pack for me. 10 Downing Street is definitely the worst. Row Houses stink. I like the Brazilian presidential palace.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:02:47pm |
re: #87 SpaceJesus
no. I don't like politicians period. I would like educated, hard-working people with successful private sector experience running the show. Palin is the exact opposite of those things.
Palin is educated, and I've seen nothing to suggest that she is not hard-working.
And if my memory is correct, she and her husband Todd have a business (or at least Todd does).
And finally - ability to successfully lead in an elected positions does not necessarily require the same skills as the ability to successfully run a for-profit-private-sector business.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:02:48pm |
re: #115 Adrenalyn
you betcha !
sheesh.....after all these years
you'd think LGF'ers would know my sense of humor
no wonder little kids and stray dogs run from me
Thanks. I thought it MUST be, but ....
/I shall now flagellate myself for asking ... :D
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:02:53pm |
re: #131 haakondahl
Agreed. It's almost going to have to be.
somebody with an Oscar under their belt
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:02:57pm |
re: #70 Killgore Trout
There definitely a growing power vacuum at the top of the GOP. Anything can happen in 2012. I'm starting to think the next nominee will be someone we've never even heard of before. Possibly even someone who isn't even in politics yet.
A struggling artist, perhaps?
Sitting in jail?
Writing about his struggle?
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:02:58pm |
re: #117 SpaceJesus
I haven't been allowed at the daily kos for years.
But yes, Palin is not qualified whatsoever.
Again... and Obama is what?
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MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:03:01pm |
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J.S. Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:03:01pm |
re: #117 SpaceJesus
You haven't been allowed at the Daily Kos for years? Well, how come? c'mon, spill it...
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Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:03:23pm |
re: #70 Killgore Trout
There definitely a growing power vacuum at the top of the GOP. Anything can happen in 2012. I'm starting to think the next nominee will be someone we've never even heard of before. Possibly even someone who isn't even in politics yet.
I'll run.
My platform will be:
Strong defense
Strong support for Israel as a Jewish state
Reliance on an open, capitalist economy, with protections for investors
Heavy investment in safe nuclear power with reprocessing to reduce requirements for more fuel.
But with incentives for private companies to develop other energy sources. The government will not pick technologies other than on the basis of actual tests.
Same for the space program - contracts for companies that can deliver new and improved access to space.
And a unicorn in every pot. (Tofunicorns for vegetarians)/
I'll tell the Saudis I'll go there when there is a Chabad house I can pray at. And there is no way I will bow down to them.
Here's some other ideas. If a company hires illegal aliens, and they have to use public health care, the company is liable, especially if they're injured on the job. They get to stay here until they're well, and then go home courtesy of the company that hired them.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:03:28pm |
re: #102 SpaceJesus
also being a beauty pageant and a sports reporter aren't exactly the most difficult jobs in the world.
With arguments and retorts like that, I am starting to understand more and more why you are so karmically challenged.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:03:57pm |
re: #102 SpaceJesus
she went to about 27 different community colleges to get her degree in gen. studies or journalism or whatever. the lady doesn't have an ounce of sticktoitiveness in her body.
also being a beauty pageant and a sports reporter aren't exactly the most difficult jobs in the world.
How does one *be* a beauty pageant?
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jcm Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:04:09pm |
re: #123 doppelganglander
It may come as a tremendous shock to you that not everyone has Mommy and Daddy paying for their four-year vacation in the Ivy League. Sarah worked her way through school. She transferred, took semesters off, and took classes for transfer at a less expensive school because that's the only way she could do it. I think it shows tremendous sticktoitiveness.
I crammed 4 years into 8. I paid my way through as I went. I went to 4 different CC's to get the prereq's that I wanted and needed, not all of them were offered at the same CC at the time I needed.
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Eowyn2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:04:22pm |
re: #37 SpaceJesus
she is a bumpkin who has no idea what the hell is going on.
No idea what is going on where?
Let us be a bit more specific in what you think makes her a bumpkin shall we?
Please look at a map of Africa and show me Zimbabwe. Please do not read the map first.
/thought so
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kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:04:30pm |
re: #3 Ben Hur
I don't know if I like her.
But I know who and how much they hate her.
And I don't like them.
Nasty bastards, aren't they?
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:04:31pm |
re: #146 BlueCanuck
With arguments and retorts like that, I am starting to understand more and more why you are so karmically challenged.
He should have just called her a dumb bitch.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:04:37pm |
re: #111 taxfreekiller
Well, it looks like Killgore is getting "righter" by the day. It appears that the July 4th tea parties were teaming with nazis and Paulians, hell, some even helped out.
Good going.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:04:47pm |
re: #123 doppelganglander
It may come as a tremendous shock to you that not everyone has Mommy and Daddy paying for their four-year vacation in the Ivy League. Sarah worked her way through school. She transferred, took semesters off, and took classes for transfer at a less expensive school because that's the only way she could do it. I think it shows tremendous sticktoitiveness.
yeah, she took time off so she could run in beauty pagents. oh, and you do realize there are these amazing things called scholarships for smart hard-working folk right?
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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:04:55pm |
re: #126 Sharmuta
I'm surprised at your strong support for a creationist.
I don't mind her creationaism. It's her waffling on ID in the classroom that gets me.
That said, she concerns me less than the current incumbent as far as broad strokes implications for the future of the country.
As much as evolution is one of my pet concerns (as much as ID in the classroom is a threat), I can't let that eclipse other issues.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:05:45pm |
re: #135 Kenneth
I count 5 colleges. When you have to work your own way through college on your own dime that's what it takes.
uh, as opposed to working your way through a single college like 90 percent of people? or how about, saving money and planning for college, then going?
this lady is a joke.
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:05:51pm |
re: #153 SpaceJesus
yeah, she took time off so she could run in beauty pagents. oh, and you do realize there are these amazing things called scholarships for smart hard-working folk right?
Beauty pageants give scholarships as prizes you dumb shit.
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Eowyn2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:06:06pm |
re: #93 SpaceJesus
a state, that if in Europe and run by Palin, would have been conquered by Lichtenstein in 5 minutes.
A state whose ruler would LEAD the troops into battle in defense of their country.
Lichtenstein wouldn't stand a chance.
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RunningBare Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:06:20pm |
re: #148 jcm
I crammed 4 years into 8. I paid my way through as I went. I went to 4 different CC's to get the prereq's that I wanted and needed, not all of them were offered at the same CC at the time I needed.
Yup, which is why, for example, the CC I work at has an agreement with a few other CCs locally to provide Gen Ed Prereq classes for their programs, and vice-versa... Many of the students I deal with daily go here and another nearby one at the same time.
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Syrah Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:06:32pm |
Who would you rather have as President right now.
[_] - Barak Obama
[_] - Sarah Palin
[_] - Ron Paul
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:06:40pm |
Yes yes, they all hate Palin and they all hate Maddoff.
Until you walk around Manhattan and see every chick was emulating her glasses look around election time, and every "fake it 'til you make it" businessman started wearing baseball caps.
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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:06:43pm |
re: #145 Kosh's Shadow
You've got my vote.
And a unicorn in every pot. (Tofunicorns for vegetarians)
And that is the new word of the day.
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Adrenalyn Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:06:52pm |
re: #139 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Thanks. I thought it MUST be, but ....
/I shall now flagellate myself for asking ... :D
re: #157 SpaceJesus
uh, as opposed to working your way through a single college like 90 percent of people? or how about, saving money and planning for college, then going?
this lady is a joke.
no need to worry, I don't sweat things
I tread as lightly as possible
but still do lightly dig into people, including the host, once in a while
and just where are 0bama's college records ?
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zombie Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:07:06pm |
re: #126 Sharmuta
I'm surprised at your strong support for a creationist.
I don't support her "strongly". I voted "somewhat approve." There are things about her positions I definitely don't like -- creationism, abstinence-only education, etc.
But the same could be said of every single politician I've ever encountered --none have ever hit all the right buttons and had a 100%-zombie-approved platform. So, I must choose from among politicians who are flawed.
Right now, I see no Democrats who are pleasing to me--except for Joe Lieberman, who quit the Democratic Party.
I see very few Republicans who appeal to me. Giuliani maybe.
So who am I left with? I like half of Palin's positions, which is pretty good considering how much I hate the competition.
And truth is, the president has VERY little -- perhaps no --influence over whether or not creationism is taught in the schools. Hell, Bush was probably a creationist, for all I know. And yet he made no moves (nor did he have to power to makes moves)_ to push that agenda. Palin has similarly said she would not push that agenda if elected, even though she personally believes in creationism.
Alaska is not one of the states with a creationist school curriculum. Nuff said.
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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:07:10pm |
re: #140 albusteve
somebody with an Oscar under their belt
Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:07:18pm |
re: #153 SpaceJesus
yeah, she took time off so she could run in beauty pagents. oh, and you do realize there are these amazing things called scholarships for smart hard-working folk right?
And Affirmative Action. She had that going for her.
/
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:07:25pm |
re: #149 Eowyn2
No idea what is going on where?
Let us be a bit more specific in what you think makes her a bumpkin shall we?Please look at a map of Africa and show me Zimbabwe. Please do not read the map first.
/thought so
haha, i hereby hallenge you to a contest of world traveler iq
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jill e Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:07:32pm |
Palin’s popularity has as much to do with class as it does with ideology. In this sense, she really is the perfect foil for Barack Obama. Our president represents the meritocratic ideal — that anyone, from any background, can grow up to attend Columbia and Harvard Law School and become a great American success story. But Sarah Palin represents the democratic ideal — that anyone can grow up to be a great success story without graduating from Columbia and Harvard.
This ideal has had a tough 10 months. It’s been tarnished by Palin herself, obviously. With her missteps, scandals, dreadful interviews and self-pitying monologues, she’s botched an essential democratic role — the ordinary citizen who takes on the elites, the up-by-your-bootstraps role embodied by politicians from Andrew Jackson down to Harry Truman.
But it’s also been tarnished by the elites themselves, in the way that the media and political establishments have treated her.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:07:44pm |
re: #102 SpaceJesus
she went to about 27 different community colleges to get her degree in gen. studies or journalism or whatever. the lady doesn't have an ounce of sticktoitiveness in her body.
also being a beauty pageant and a sports reporter aren't exactly the most difficult jobs in the world.
Oh, I get it. You're making fun of her because she won a beauty pageant.
I bet none of the beauty queens in your high school noticed you at all and you're still smarting.
Neener.
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:07:49pm |
re: #164 doppelganglander
You've got my vote.
And that is the new word of the day.
Don't try using it in scrabble!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:08:01pm |
Obama and Medvedev size each other up.....
Yahoo Pic
Quien es mas macho?
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jcm Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:08:03pm |
re: #153 SpaceJesus
yeah, she took time off so she could run in beauty pagents. oh, and you do realize there are these amazing things called scholarships for smart hard-working folk right?
Just a tad jealous are we?
Which beauty pageant rejected you?
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kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:08:13pm |
re: #37 SpaceJesus
she is a bumpkin who has no idea what the hell is going on.
Yeah, she says some really stupid stuff. Energy independence, low taxes, decent environment for business, honesty, love of country, stupid shit like that. ////
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:08:15pm |
re: #159 redstateredneck
Beauty pageants give scholarships as prizes you dumb shit.
out of context, moron. i'm talking about hard work. real work. real accomplishments.
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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:08:25pm |
re: #153 SpaceJesus
yeah, she took time off so she could run in beauty pagents. oh, and you do realize there are these amazing things called scholarships for smart hard-working folk right?
You do know beauty pageants offer scholarships as prizes, right?
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capitalist piglet Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:08:29pm |
re: #132 SpaceJesus
I wonder if she also knows that when you add emphasis to a word, you don't capitalize it-- you use italics.
What do you know? SpaceJesus has a functioning shift key after all.
HINT: I suggest you use it when you ridicule Governor Palin for merely having a journalism degree. Feel the emphasis.
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Eowyn2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:08:41pm |
re: #100 redstateredneck
How is she the exact opposite of those things? She's educated, just not Ivy League; she's run a business with her husband, just not a Fortune 500 company.
How dare you be reasonable.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:08:43pm |
re: #102 SpaceJesus
... also being a beauty pageant and a sports reporter aren't exactly the most difficult jobs in the world.
It is if you are ugly.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:09:06pm |
re: #157 SpaceJesus
uh, as opposed to working your way through a single college like 90 percent of people? or how about, saving money and planning for college, then going?
this lady is a joke.
Got proof?
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MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:09:06pm |
re: #157 SpaceJesus
this lady is a joke.
Yeah, that's why she was elected governor of the largest state in the union, and stood up as best she could to corrupt government.
That's MY definition of a joke. Uh huh.
/for the sarcasm impaired.
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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:09:18pm |
re: #102 SpaceJesus
she went to about 27 different community colleges to get her degree in gen. studies or journalism or whatever.
re: #135 Kenneth
I count 5 colleges. When you have to work your own way through college on your own dime that's what it takes.
Well, 5=27 for low enough values of equality.
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soxfan4life Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:09:46pm |
re: #149 Eowyn2
No idea what is going on where?
Let us be a bit more specific in what you think makes her a bumpkin shall we?Please look at a map of Africa and show me Zimbabwe. Please do not read the map first.
/thought so
Don't forget about the job she did negotiating the gas pipeline and the oil rights for the citizens of Alaska. I wonder what kind of deal Biden could have hammered out, might have only cost each citizen of the state about 1500 dollars rather than netted them money.
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RunningBare Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:09:54pm |
re: #157 SpaceJesus
uh, as opposed to working your way through a single college like 90 percent of people? or how about, saving money and planning for college, then going?
this lady is a joke.
You obviously know nothing about how things are currently, as related to the profiles of students on campus, their economic status, and/or how many schools they have attended, etc...
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:09:55pm |
re: #45 LGoPs
Reine - how do you reconcile Palin's readiness for office with Obama's even thinner credentials? I'm not attacking you and I'm almost certain you didn't support Obama. It just seems to me that once Obama got a pass, that issue should be off the table.
Again, not arguing, just curious.
I just re-read your comment and realized I didn't really address that last part. And my answer is not specifically in terms of Palin's "credentials" vs Obama's "credentials".
IMO, just because Obama got a "pass", doesn't mean that others should. If people gave Obama a pass, that is their poor judgment and their mistake. It doesn't mean I should also give a "pass" to candidates I'm considering for office.
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Billy Hank Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:10:03pm |
Palin's VP acceptance speech was a defining moment. For the first time, a lot of people thought McCain could win. Those who didn't want that reacted like a surprised submarine crew executing a crash dive under fire. The Palin panic was palpable. McCain's kindly Eisenhower-era campaign insured that the media's single minded piranha attack would destroy Palin in the short time frame of the campaign.
Now, Palin will have some time to plan, think, and organize. She has not had good PR counsel and I hope she gets some as she sets about the task of reintroducing herself to American voters. I think she has the basic wit, optimism, and good sense to charm and convince us that her issues of less government, energy independence, and lower taxes will become increasingly dominant. Single issue folks like the anti-Christians and abortionists will never warm to her. But maybe a majority will take to her message.
She may not run or be elected. That's in the distant future. I hope she stays a powerful and appealing champion of her principles.
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tedzilla99 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:10:12pm |
re: #126 Sharmuta
I'm surprised at your strong support for a creationist.
Not everyone is a single-issue automaton.
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baier Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:10:14pm |
It would be interesting to know how people felt about Palin before she resigned as well.
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:10:36pm |
re: #157 SpaceJesus
Why do we know more about Sarah Palin's career than we do about Obama's?
Funny, that.
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kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:10:44pm |
Holy cow, my comment about being nasty bastards is being played out by some stupid shit right here. Let's see, who could it be?
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:10:46pm |
re: #171 MandyManners
Oh, I get it. You're making fun of her because she won a beauty pageant.
I bet none of the beauty queens in your high school noticed you at all and you're still smarting.
Neener.
don't get me wrong here, if she had won a beauty pageant and gotten a masters, PhD etc in something challenging then I would respect her.
general studies? journalism? you serious? give me a break. the woman has yet to show she has any higher level mental faculties whatsoever, and every time she goes on tv and speaks like a bumpkin she just reconfirms it all again.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:10:53pm |
re: #165 Adrenalyn
no need to worry, I don't sweat things
I tread as lightly as possible
but still do lightly dig into people, including the host, once in a whileand just where are 0bama's college records ?
And from where (or "WHOM") did he get the money to go to Harvard?
heh
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:10:55pm |
re: #181 Walter L. Newton
It is if you are ugly.
his attitude is sure no thing of beauty...how can so much malice be generated against a total stranger?....people bend reality
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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:10:58pm |
re: #141 Ben Hur
A struggling artist, perhaps?
Sitting in jail?
Writing about his struggle?
You're going to have to spell that one out for me.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:11:14pm |
re: #50 Killgore Trout
Interesting results. Most people think she made a her resignation was a bad move but most people also give her a strong approval rating.
I don't get it.
The question could be taken 2 ways - I voted based on my admiration for Palin the person. If I had voted on my feelings about Palin the politician, I would have voted differently.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:11:19pm |
re: #169 SpaceJesus
haha, i hereby hallenge you to a contest of world traveler iq
What's a "hallenge"?
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NoWhereAlaska Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:11:20pm |
re: #93 SpaceJesus
a state, that if in Europe and run by Palin, would have been conquered by Lichtenstein in 5 minutes.
Dream on! A country the size of France and Germany combined, with terrain similar to Afghanistan, with a population that is armed to the teeth, and capable of living off the land. We saw what problems USSR had in a similar situation. No country on earth could conquer us quickly.
Anecdote: neighbor was worried about someone breaking into his car while he was out hiking. So he left it unlocked! He even put several dimes on the hood of his car. Each one had been damaged by a .308 round. When he returned, the guy in a car near by asked to borrow his dimes.
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:11:31pm |
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Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:11:46pm |
re: #102 SpaceJesus
she went to about 27 different community colleges to get her degree in gen. studies or journalism or whatever. the lady doesn't have an ounce of sticktoitiveness in her body.
also being a beauty pageant and a sports reporter aren't exactly the most difficult jobs in the world.
Any job well done is a difficult job. What do you do?
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:11:52pm |
re: #192 Kenneth
Why do we know more about Sarah Palin's career than we do about Obama's?
Funny, that.
and your point is?
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:12:16pm |
re: #195 SpaceJesus
Oh....if only she had a teleprompter.
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turn Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:12:22pm |
re: #3 Ben Hur
I don't know if I like her.
But I know who and how much they hate her.
And I don't like them.
Perfect, and that is precisely why I voted "it helped." Those slimeballs were tearing her down financially with that lawfare so resigning gave her a quick way to get money to fight back with.
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quickjustice Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:12:25pm |
Her resignation hurt Palin's prospects for the GOP nomination for President, and she knows it. Her resignation frees her up to be with her family, which seems to be her top priority right now. I respect that.
I don't believe her resignation was politically motivated, as all the slithering pundits are suggesting.
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Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:12:26pm |
re: #165 Adrenalyn
no need to worry, I don't sweat things
I tread as lightly as possible
but still do lightly dig into people, including the host, once in a whileand just where are 0bama's college records ?
Eated along with the nirth certificat?
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avanti Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:12:46pm |
From my prospective, this editorial seems a fair distillation of the good and bad issues surrounding Palin, Yes, it is from the NYT, but covers both sides pretty well IMHO.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:12:47pm |
re: #200 MandyManners
What's a "hallenge"?
it's what happens when you are typing responses almost simultaneously to dozens of mentally challenged people on the internet
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:12:49pm |
re: #186 Fenway_Nation
Must....resist....gratuitous......opportunity... to.....mention....I.....dated .......brauty....pageant.....contestant.....in ......High ........School.....
Well, I *was* a contestant in high school.
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saylorfam Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:13:15pm |
re: #162 Syrah
Given that choice, the response is easy. It would be Palin.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:13:17pm |
I think the GOP needs to go on the offensive against the Dem Congress that has been in power since January 2007. When the Dems took over Congress In Jan 2007, the Dow was around 12,500. Since they have been in control of the government's finances, the market has gone down by a third. Shouldn't the public be made aware of this?
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:13:32pm |
re: #190 tedzilla99
Not everyone is a single-issue automaton.
Are you trying to suggest that's what I am? Because you have no idea what my issue is.
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kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:13:35pm |
re: #211 Kosh's Shadow
Eated along with the nirth certificat?
I don't place actual records in the nirth category. It's bullshit he won't release records.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:13:35pm |
yes, clearly because i think palin is a joke of a leader that means i want to hold hands and skip down the street with obama to get ice cream
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:13:54pm |
re: #195 SpaceJesus
don't get me wrong here, if she had won a beauty pageant and gotten a masters, PhD etc in something challenging then I would respect her.
general studies? journalism? you serious? give me a break. the woman has yet to show she has any higher level mental faculties whatsoever, and every time she goes on tv and speaks like a bumpkin she just reconfirms it all again.
ya see, I'm a bumpkin.
I talk like a bumpkin.
My degree is in "general studies" (English, History, French).
Do you have any clue how many folks here you have just insulted?
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Eowyn2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:13:59pm |
re: #157 SpaceJesus
uh, as opposed to working your way through a single college like 90 percent of people? or how about, saving money and planning for college, then going?
this lady is a joke.
There are 6 degrees in my family (siblings)
1 of those 6 degrees was a brother who worked his way through a single college.
5 of them (mine included) are from 2 or more college curriculums. There are 5 BS degrees and 1 doctorate. My sister (doctorate in finance) went to four different colleges. I know very FEW people who actually went the whole time through one school.
Where did you go to college and who paid for it?
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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:14:03pm |
re: #157 SpaceJesus
uh, as opposed to working your way through a single college like 90 percent of people? or how about, saving money and planning for college, then going?
this lady is a joke.
You have got to be no more than 20 years old to imagine that's what life is like. How about having parents who saved but it wasn't enough? Maybe having a parent who died, became disabled, or lost a job and couldn't afford to send you to college? Do you even know what college costs? It is impossible for a person with only a high school diploma to save up the cost of college before enrolling, unless he/she wants to graduate at age 60. Your ignorance is exceeded only by your condescension.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:14:08pm |
re: #219 SpaceJesus
yes, clearly because i think palin is a joke of a leader that means i want to hold hands and skip down the street with obama to get ice cream
i take that back. that would actually be pretty awesome.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:14:12pm |
re: #212 avanti
From my prospective, this editorial seems a fair distillation of the good and bad issues surrounding Palin, Yes, it is from the NYT, but covers both sides pretty well IMHO.
Covers the left with gold dust and the right with bovine diarreah. That's the NYT 'covering both sides' for ya.
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jcm Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:14:18pm |
re: #195 SpaceJesus
don't get me wrong here, if she had won a beauty pageant and gotten a masters, PhD etc in something challenging then I would respect her.
general studies? journalism? you serious? give me a break. the woman has yet to show she has any higher level mental faculties whatsoever, and every time she goes on tv and speaks like a bumpkin she just reconfirms it all again.
Let me guess, your IQ is 167 you have dual PhDs in nuclear physics and molecular biology completing both in 3 years at Harvard?
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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:14:18pm |
Why are we letting spacejackass run off with the thread?
GAZE
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LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:14:25pm |
re: #188 reine.de.tout
I just re-read your comment and realized I didn't really address that last part. And my answer is not specifically in terms of Palin's "credentials" vs Obama's "credentials".
IMO, just because Obama got a "pass", doesn't mean that others should. If people gave Obama a pass, that is their poor judgment and their mistake. It doesn't mean I should also give a "pass" to candidates I'm considering for office.
I agree with your assessment. On review of my statement I would qualify that it is the media that should in future give a pass on experience, since they were the ones that gave Obama one on his lack of experience. Of course they won't when it comes to a Republican and that double standard will make me very angry.
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Eowyn2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:14:28pm |
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kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:14:39pm |
re: #213 SpaceJesus
it's what happens when you are
typing responses almost simultaneously to dozens ofmentally challengedpeople on the internet
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:14:46pm |
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:14:47pm |
re: #203 Gang of One
Any job well done is a difficult job. What do you do?
Obscene things with dryer lint in his mommy's basement.
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MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:14:48pm |
re: #219 SpaceJesus
yes, clearly because i think palin is a joke of a leader that means i want to hold hands and skip down the street with obama to get ice cream
I KNEW it! That explains EVERYTHING!
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:14:48pm |
This just in:
MICHAEL JACKSON! MICHAEL JACKSON! MICHAEL JACKSON!
This has been your MSM News Brief. Stay tuned for further developments.
(Very busy here, gang, BBL)
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:15:07pm |
re: #213 SpaceJesus
it's what happens when you are typing responses almost simultaneously to dozens of mentally challenged people on the internet
is that an insult?...well I'll be
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Eowyn2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:15:20pm |
re: #223 doppelganglander
You have got to be no more than 20 years old to imagine that's what life is like. How about having parents who saved but it wasn't enough? Maybe having a parent who died, became disabled, or lost a job and couldn't afford to send you to college? Do you even know what college costs? It is impossible for a person with only a high school diploma to save up the cost of college before enrolling, unless he/she wants to graduate at age 60. Your ignorance is exceeded only by your condescension.
AND there is nothing wrong with graduating at age 60!
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jcm Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:15:39pm |
re: #227 haakondahl
Why are we letting spacejackass run off with the thread?
GAZE
You got your tickets to the MJ memorial?
////// ;-P
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:15:39pm |
re: #213 SpaceJesus
it's what happens when you are typing responses almost simultaneously to dozens of mentally challenged people on the internet
Oh, aren't we emulating our avatar!
Oops, ... nope ... the avatar is emulating ourself.
Gazing down upon the stupid unwashed masses below.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:15:48pm |
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Achilles Tang Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:16:17pm |
36% of LGF think this hurt her for 2012 and 36% strongly approve of what she did.
Unfortunately only Charles knows if it's the same 36% in each case.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:16:18pm |
I think Gallup is releasing a poll this afternoon with similar questions about Palin's favorability rating/how the resignation affects people's views of her.
Should be interesting to see how it compares to our poll.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:16:21pm |
re: #220 reine.de.tout
ya see, I'm a bumpkin.
I talk like a bumpkin.
My degree is in "general studies" (English, History, French).
Do you have any clue how many folks here you have just insulted?
And also, it took me 8 years to work my way through college.
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jcm Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:16:33pm |
re: #236 Eowyn2
AND there is nothing wrong with graduating at age 60!
The biggest cheers at our graduation were for folks over 60!
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:16:34pm |
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:16:42pm |
re: #197 albusteve
his attitude is sure no thing of beauty...how can so much malice be generated against a total stranger?....people bend reality
Do I really have to answer you? Ok, I will.
Because Spacejesus is an attention freak, he/she/it knows how stupid/vapid/dumb/meaningless he/she/it sounds, but typical of people with this psychological profile, negative attention is better than no attention. So, he/she/it will bring ridicule on itself, rather than fade away into the vast nothingness of anonymity.
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kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:16:53pm |
I still hate you Sarah Palin. From NRO
[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]
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soxfan4life Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:16:58pm |
re: #216 _RememberTonyC
I think the GOP needs to go on the offensive against the Dem Congress that has been in power since January 2007. When the Dems took over Congress In Jan 2007, the Dow was around 12,500. Since they have been in control of the government's finances, the market has gone down by a third. Shouldn't the public be made aware of this?
With Joe Biden on the loose, talk of a second stimulus, and eveerything else going on the Dems are giving the GOP plenty of ammunition. Now they need Sarah Palin to pull a Keith Moon on Micheal Steele and take office and use this ammo against the Dems in 2010, 2012, etc. She has the conservative values to hopefully keep the party in line on fiscal responsibility and small government.
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Eowyn2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:17:12pm |
re: #210 quickjustice
Her resignation hurt Palin's prospects for the GOP nomination for President, and she knows it. Her resignation frees her up to be with her family, which seems to be her top priority right now. I respect that.
I don't believe her resignation was politically motivated, as all the slithering pundits are suggesting.
I dont think she cares what the pundits are saying. I dont think she ever did care and that pisses them off.
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Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:17:16pm |
re: #171 MandyManners
Oh, I get it. You're making fun of her because she won a beauty pageant.
I bet none of the beauty queens in your high school noticed you at all and you're still smarting.
Neener.
Ouch.
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:17:31pm |
re: #204 SpaceJesus
If you don't get the point, there's no use explaining it to you.
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LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:17:34pm |
re: #195 SpaceJesus
don't get me wrong here, if she had won a beauty pageant and gotten a masters, PhD etc in something challenging then I would respect her.
general studies? journalism? you serious? give me a break. the woman has yet to show she has any higher level mental faculties whatsoever, and every time she goes on tv and speaks like a bumpkin she just reconfirms it all again.
GAZE
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quickjustice Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:17:50pm |
re: #216 _RememberTonyC
With all due respect, the financial crisis started on Bush's watch. I think Obama is making it worse, but it'll take some time before the GOP has recovered from its tarnished reputation.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:17:59pm |
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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:18:05pm |
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hans ze beeman Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:18:07pm |
re: #210 quickjustice
Her resignation hurt Palin's prospects for the GOP nomination for President, and she knows it. Her resignation frees her up to be with her family, which seems to be her top priority right now. I respect that.
I don't believe her resignation was politically motivated, as all the slithering pundits are suggesting.
I have the same impression. The fact that the wants to sue bloggers now is also detrimental.
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:18:13pm |
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kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:18:16pm |
re: #216 _RememberTonyC
I think the GOP needs to go on the offensive against the Dem Congress that has been in power since January 2007. When the Dems took over Congress In Jan 2007, the Dow was around 12,500. Since they have been in control of the government's finances, the market has gone down by a third. Shouldn't the public be made aware of this?
Why don't they. I remember back before the Dems took over, I though things were going rather well.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:18:19pm |
re: #222 Eowyn2
There are 6 degrees in my family (siblings)
1 of those 6 degrees was a brother who worked his way through a single college.
5 of them (mine included) are from 2 or more college curriculums. There are 5 BS degrees and 1 doctorate. My sister (doctorate in finance) went to four different colleges. I know very FEW people who actually went the whole time through one school.
Where did you go to college and who paid for it?
I have gone to three myself. Two of them were because I studied abroad though, so I did begin and complete my degree at the same institution. I'm even continuing on with grad school here. Why? Because I plan to do something, start doing it, and finish it. No hiatus or jumping around necessary. I don't know about you, but I'd like a leader who knows how to plan and execute something.
another thing, has palin ever been overseas? speak another language even? oh, no time for that you say. gotta play basketball and find a dress for the pageant instead i guess.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:18:32pm |
re: #225 Fenway_Nation
Covers the left with gold dust and the right with bovine diarreah. That's the NYT 'covering both sides' for ya.
Actually that OpEd is by Russ Douthat, who is a conservative. The NYT hired him to replace Kristol's slot when they canned him.
Douthat is, nonetheless, an idiot.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:18:40pm |
re: #226 jcm
Let me guess, your IQ is 167 you have dual PhDs in nuclear physics and molecular biology completing both in 3 years at Harvard?
hello future biographer
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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:18:40pm |
re: #220 reine.de.tout
ya see, I'm a bumpkin.
I talk like a bumpkin.
My degree is in "general studies" (English, History, French).
Do you have any clue how many folks here you have just insulted?
General Studies here. I guess I want to ignore the troll because I just don't have any stick-to-it. It's a shame, really. We've all been bested, so now I guess the troll can go away.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:18:41pm |
re: #251 Kenneth
If you don't get the point, there's no use explaining it to you.
You can explain it to him, but you can't understand it for him.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:18:44pm |
re: #245 Walter L. Newton
Do I really have to answer you? Ok, I will.
Because Spacejesus is an attention freak, he/she/it knows how stupid/vapid/dumb/meaningless he/she/it sounds, but typical of people with this psychological profile, negative attention is better than no attention. So, he/she/it will bring ridicule on itself, rather than fade away into the vast nothingness of anonymity.
I'm gonna commit that to memory
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zombie Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:18:52pm |
re: #221 buzzsawmonkey
Although not elected, her poll numbers rate
She likes to fight back when the pundits bait
She likes to choose what she has on her plate
That's why the lady is a joke
She likes the cold, fresh
snow in her hair
Grizz-i-ly bears
She's hot!
You're not!
She's straight as an aroow, and she doesn't smoke
That's why the lady is a joke!
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Eowyn2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:18:55pm |
re: #213 SpaceJesus
it's what happens when you are typing responses almost simultaneously to dozens of mentally challenged people on the internet
You've been over to KOS?
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:19:02pm |
re: #234 Occasional Reader
Dude. You just missed WriterMom. Where you been?
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:19:03pm |
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avanti Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:19:14pm |
re: #225 Fenway_Nation
Covers the left with gold dust and the right with bovine diarreah. That's the NYT 'covering both sides' for ya.
Odd, I thought it trashed the left pretty hard. It put more blame on the MSM and the left then it laid on Palin in my opinion. Again, it shows how far apart we are that you can read the same thing as me, and we can come out 180 degrees from each other.
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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:19:39pm |
re: #236 Eowyn2
AND there is nothing wrong with graduating at age 60!
Nope. I got my BA at 37 and I just might get my masters before I'm 60. I have one more kid to get through college before I can tackle it.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:19:51pm |
re: #260 SpaceJesus
I have gone to three myself. Two of them were because I studied abroad though, so I did begin and complete my degree at the same institution. I'm even continuing on with grad school here. Why? Because I plan to do something, start doing it, and finish it. No hiatus or jumping around necessary. I don't know about you, but I'd like a leader who knows how to plan and execute something.
another thing, has palin ever been overseas? speak another language even? oh, no time for that you say. gotta play basketball and find a dress for the pageant instead i guess.
You've been A Broad?
Well, there ya go.
We should bow before your superior - whatever.
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Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:19:56pm |
re: #268 Kenneth
Dude. You just missed WriterMom. Where you been?
Busy.
Then, hangin' with fam-bly for fowthajuly.
Then, busy again.
Later!
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capitalist piglet Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:20:16pm |
re: #234 Occasional Reader
This just in:
MICHAEL JACKSON! MICHAEL JACKSON! MICHAEL JACKSON!
This has been your MSM News Brief. Stay tuned for further developments.
(Very busy here, gang, BBL)
Q: How does Michael Jackson pick his nose?
A: From a portfolio.
(H/T: RunningBare)
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:20:20pm |
re: #254 quickjustice
With all due respect, the financial crisis started on Bush's watch. I think Obama is making it worse, but it'll take some time before the GOP has recovered from its tarnished reputation.
Bush was not the only person involved in government when the crisis got bad. And there are plenty of Dems who are in line to share some responsibility.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:20:48pm |
re: #260 SpaceJesus
You are an insufferable, elitist prick.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:21:00pm |
re: #270 avanti
Odd, I thought it trashed the left pretty hard. It put more blame on the MSM and the left then it laid on Palin in my opinion. Again, it shows how far apart we are that you can read the same thing as me, and we can come out 180 degrees from each other.
See my 261. Douthat is the conservative columnist the NYT hired to replace Kristol.
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kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:21:06pm |
re: #276 _RememberTonyC
Bush was not the only person involved in government when the crisis got bad. And there are plenty of Dems who are in line to share some responsibility.
There's novel idea, Dems to share responsiblity for shit they created.
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ShanghaiEd Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:21:23pm |
A reporter asks Palin how she would handle such attacks if she were in the White House:
"I think on a national level, your department of law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out," she said.
Department of law? "Automatically" throw them out?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:21:23pm |
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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:21:24pm |
re: #242 reine.de.tout
And also, it took me 8 years to work my way through college.
And might I add that history, English and French are not general studies. They are liberal arts, which despite all the snickering from engineers are important and valuable areas of study.
/English major
//not a teacher
///and yes, I DO use my degree on the job.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:21:26pm |
My my....oil just dropped below $63 a barrel. Now all those trucks, trains, planes and ships that aren't going anywhere 'cause there's less stuff to ship can get nice and cheap fuel.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:21:50pm |
re: #273 reine.de.tout
You've been A Broad?
Well, there ya go.
We should bow before your superior - whatever.
yes, i did study a broad or two
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:21:53pm |
re: #260 SpaceJesus
Palin has been to Europe and Iraq to visit the Alaska National Guard as part of her duties as Governor of Alaska.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:22:11pm |
re: #263 haakondahl
General Studies here. I guess I want to ignore the troll because I just don't have any stick-to-it. It's a shame, really. We've all been bested, so now I guess the troll can go away.
doesn't bother me in the slightest....I enjoy the Palin derangement, fascinating stuff...
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Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:22:27pm |
re: #279 kansas
There's novel idea, Dems to share responsiblity for shit they created.
Back in Truman's day, maybe. Nowadays, the only buck that stops in a politician's office ends up in his pocket.
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kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:22:37pm |
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Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:22:49pm |
re: #153 SpaceJesus
yeah, she took time off so she could run in beauty pagents. oh, and you do realize there are these amazing things called scholarships for smart hard-working folk right?
What do you think pageants provide? Hint: it's not a modeling contract.
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RunningBare Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:22:51pm |
re: #284 spacejesus
yes, i did study a broad or two
From a distance... with binoculars... and your hand down your pants.
;)
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Racer X Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:23:01pm |
I'm not going to compare Sarah Palin to any well respected politicians in the past, but to pick on her because she speaks like a "country bumpkin" is not fair. America has had many "country bumpkins" that turned out pretty darned well gosh darn it.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:23:09pm |
re: #284 spacejesus
yes, i did study a broad or two
I don't know of a single broad who would let you spit-shine her shoes.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:23:10pm |
re: #272 doppelganglander
Nope. I got my BA at 37 and I just might get my masters before I'm 60. I have one more kid to get through college before I can tackle it.
I had a friend once, who wanted to go to law school. She was 36 when she started thinking about it. She remarked to me that if she started law school now, she would be 39 in 3 years when she finished.
I asked her how old she would be in 3 years if she didn't go to law school?
The real question she needed to ask herself was - what is it I want to be doing with my life in 3 years? Not how old she would be.
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Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:23:11pm |
re: #283 Fenway_Nation
My my....oil just dropped below $63 a barrel. Now all those trucks, trains, planes and ships that aren't going anywhere 'cause there's less stuff to ship can get nice and cheap fuel.
Otherwise called "the law of supply and demand", something Obama never learned about.
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Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:23:26pm |
re: #204 SpaceJesus
and your point is?
The point being that Zero is a nobody, a gornicht. Palin is a somebody, a mensch, as it were.
/Joys of Yiddish mode
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:23:29pm |
re: #260 SpaceJesus
I have gone to three myself. Two of them were because I studied abroad though, so I did begin and complete my degree at the same institution. I'm even continuing on with grad school here. Why? Because I plan to do something, start doing it, and finish it. No hiatus or jumping around necessary. I don't know about you, but I'd like a leader who knows how to plan and execute something.
another thing, has palin ever been overseas? speak another language even? oh, no time for that you say. gotta play basketball and find a dress for the pageant instead i guess.
That's ridiculous.
I'd rather have a president that's been to all 57 states BEFORE running for president.
And the language thing is also ridiculous. (Yes I speak 3, my wife 5).
If all the states in the US spoke different languages like in Europe, more americans would speak more languages.
Of course, you may be one of those westerners who can't see beyond Europe, and forget about Asia, Africa and the ME, I don't think many Japanese speak Chinese or Korean. or vice versa, etc.
International business was once done in French then German. Now in English. Why learn Tongalese so Tonga Man can do business. Let him learn English.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:23:46pm |
re: #260 SpaceJesus
I have gone to three myself. Two of them were because I studied abroad though, so I did begin and complete my degree at the same institution. I'm even continuing on with grad school here. Why? Because I plan to do something, start doing it, and finish it. No hiatus or jumping around necessary. I don't know about you, but I'd like a leader who knows how to plan and execute something.
another thing, has palin ever been overseas? speak another language even? oh, no time for that you say. gotta play basketball and find a dress for the pageant instead i guess.
And with your rotten people skills, all that fucking education and big plans will get you no where.
People who talk like you more often than not, manage to blow up their lives over and over.
Take it from me, if you act in person, in real life, the way you act here, you are destined for failure.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:23:52pm |
re: #280 ShanghaiEd
A reporter asks Palin how she would handle such attacks if she were in the White House:
Department of law? "Automatically" throw them out?
To be somewhat fair, AK does have a Department of Law -- but no-one knows what the hell Palin was referring to when claiming the WH has one (the Office of Legal Counsel, maybe?) and in any case there is no body that could 'automatically' throw out charges against the POTUS in the way she suggests.
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kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:23:58pm |
Wasn't it Joe Biden who said Franklin Roosevelt went on TV to talk to the American people? Some brilliance there, that Joe.
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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:24:05pm |
re: #284 spacejesus
yes, i did study a broad or two
From a distance, I'm sure. Pesky restraining orders.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:24:10pm |
re: #290 RunningBare
From a distance... with binoculars... and your hand down your pants.
;)
Oh, dear me. LOL!
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quickjustice Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:24:22pm |
re: #276 _RememberTonyC
Like it or not, the buck stops there. Paulson was a disaster, as was Greenspan. The crisis started on Bush's watch. It'll take some time for Obama to own it.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:24:23pm |
sorry to everybody for having the opinion that our leaders should be accomplished and exceptional people. i didn't realize it would be so offensive.
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Racer X Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:24:44pm |
re: #290 RunningBare
From a distance... with binoculars... and your hand down your pants.
;)
The only ass he gets is when the toilet paper breaks.
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wintercat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:24:51pm |
re: #260 SpaceJesus
I have gone to three myself. Two of them were because I studied abroad though, so I did begin and complete my degree at the same institution. I'm even continuing on with grad school here. Why? Because I plan to do something, start doing it, and finish it. No hiatus or jumping around necessary. I don't know about you, but I'd like a leader who knows how to plan and execute something.
another thing, has palin ever been overseas? speak another language even? oh, no time for that you say. gotta play basketball and find a dress for the pageant instead i guess.
You really are kidding, right?
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:24:57pm |
re: #271 MandyManners
Sequins?
C'mon!
Was referring to the "strap!"
Where are all the freaks when you need them?
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Danny Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:24:58pm |
re: #37 SpaceJesus
she is a bumpkin who has no idea what the hell is going on.
I was gonna downding SpaceJesus, which I hardly ever do to anyone, but then I looked at his user icon and it made me laugh.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:24:59pm |
re: #290 RunningBare
From a distance... with binoculars... and your hand down your pants.
;)
ROFLMAO!
I'm so tempted to drag out my sock and UP-ding that one again!
I think you just pegged part of this idiot's psychological makeup.
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Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:25:19pm |
re: #213 SpaceJesus
it's what happens when you are typing responses almost simultaneously to dozens of mentally challenged people on the internet
You really meant 'entally hallenged' didn't you?
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kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:25:29pm |
re: #303 spacejesus
sorry to everybody for having the opinion that our leaders should be accomplished and exceptional people. i didn't realize it would be so offensive.
How do you explain Obama then? Oh right, affirmative action.
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jcm Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:25:36pm |
re: #254 quickjustice
With all due respect, the financial crisis started on Bush's watch. I think Obama is making it worse, but it'll take some time before the GOP has recovered from its tarnished reputation.
Bush tried to clamp down on Fannie and Freddie, Bwarney Fwank and others blocked those attempts.
The roots of the crisis go back to Rabbit Bait and the CRA, Clinton didn't help by mandating more sub-prime loans. It didn't start on GWB's watch it exploded on his, he tried to pulling the fuse but Bwarney Fwank kept sticking it back it.
GWB's response could have been better than the TARP.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:25:41pm |
re: #295 Gang of One
The point being that Zero is a nobody, a gornicht. Palin is a somebody, a mensch, as it were.
/Joys of Yiddish mode
too bad mensch comes from german, and it actually just means person, or alternatively, a humanitarian.
has palin done any serious volunteer work either?
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Last Mohican Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:25:50pm |
re: #213 SpaceJesus
it's what happens when you are typing responses almost simultaneously to dozens of mentally challenged people on the internet
Hey, dumbass, I totally support your presence here, if only because you prove to all the doubters out there that Charles won't ban anyone just because he's an ignorant jerk who keeps making a fool of himself. But showing up and issuing insults directed at the entire LGF membership is not exactly a recipe for longevity.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:25:59pm |
re: #292 MandyManners
I don't know of a single broad who would let you spit-shine her shoes.
Mandy, you have no idea if SpaceJesus is a him or her, or what he, she or it likes to with it's sex organs. But I bet I can guess.
//////////
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Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:26:20pm |
re: #260 SpaceJesus
You're truly missing the point.
I paid my own way, and all those lovely internships and semesters overseas? Those went to people who could afford them. I couldn't afford - ever - not to be earning money.
If I'd had the looks, damned right I'd have been competing in pageants! I'm sure it would have been a hell of a lot easier than a few jobs I had.
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Kragar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:26:21pm |
re: #275 capitalist piglet
Q: How does Michael Jackson pick his nose?
A: From a portfolio.
(H/T: RunningBare)
Wienerschnitzel is offering a Micheal Jackon memorial hotdog special today.
Its a 8" wiener in a 6" bun
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debutaunt Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:26:43pm |
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avanti Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:26:45pm |
Here's a new poll:
Conservatives and moderates are split over the governor’s move. Fifty-two percent of self-identified GOP moderates said Palin’s move will hurt her chances in 2012, while only 37 percent of conservatives think she has harmed her chances.
“In general, the higher a Republican voter’s income level and educational achievement, the more likely he or she is to think Palin’s decision to resign will hurt her bid for the GOP nomination,” the polling firm observed in its analysis of the survey.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:27:08pm |
re: #306 Ben Hur
C'mon!
Was referring to the "strap!"
Where are all the freaks when you need them?
Huh?
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MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:27:11pm |
re: #260 SpaceJesus
another thing, has palin ever been overseas? speak another language even? oh, no time for that you say. gotta play basketball and find a dress for the pageant instead i guess.
Yes, she has been overseas.
And I know plenty of politicians that only speak English... are you familiar with Barack Obama? He even admitted it at a town hall meeting.
Stop being stupid, SJ.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:27:16pm |
re: #303 spacejesus
sorry to everybody for having the opinion that our leaders should be accomplished and exceptional people. i didn't realize it would be so offensive.
swing and a miss....it's your elitist insults that are offensive to some...me?...I could care less what you have to say...ramble on all you want
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:27:20pm |
re: #303 spacejesus
sorry to everybody for having the opinion that our leaders should be accomplished and exceptional people. i didn't realize it would be so offensive.
quoting this for eternal posterity.
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redc1c4 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:27:20pm |
re: #4 _RememberTonyC
I think a poll question like this would be good:
Who do you want to get the 2012 GOP nomination for President:
a/ Sarah Palin
b/Mitt Romney
c/neither
A
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:27:20pm |
re: #303 spacejesus
sorry to everybody for having the opinion that our leaders should be accomplished and exceptional people. i didn't realize it would be so offensive.
It's that your definition of what "accomplishment" and "exceptional" mean, really sucks.
Very narrow-minded.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:27:29pm |
re: #303 spacejesus
sorry to everybody for having the opinion that our leaders should be accomplished and exceptional people. i didn't realize it would be so offensive.
Okay, so explain Obama. What has he accomplished or done that's exceptional?
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:27:39pm |
re: #303 spacejesus
sorry to everybody for having the opinion that our leaders should be accomplished and exceptional people. i didn't realize it would be so offensive.
Yet again... and Obama is what?
Zero accomplishments, other than getting elected without any previous accomplishments. The only thing exceptional about him is his extraordinary self-regard.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:27:43pm |
re: #297 Walter L. Newton
And with your rotten people skills, all that fucking education and big plans will get you no where.
People who talk like you more often than not, manage to blow up their lives over and over.
Take it from me, if you act in person, in real life, the way you act here, you are destined for failure.
If he goes into academia, he'll rank dead last (consistently) in the good/bad teacher polls.
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Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:27:46pm |
re: #293 reine.de.tout
I had a friend once, who wanted to go to law school. She was 36 when she started thinking about it. She remarked to me that if she started law school now, she would be 39 in 3 years when she finished.
I asked her how old she would be in 3 years if she didn't go to law school?
The real question she needed to ask herself was - what is it I want to be doing with my life in 3 years? Not how old she would be.
Similar in ages to when my wife went to law school. Now she's much happier as a criminal defense lawyer.
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ShanghaiEd Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:27:59pm |
re: #288 kansas
Ummmm..................errrrr..................... .anduhhhhhhhhh. That better?
Not really. Why?
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Mithrax Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:28:00pm |
re: #303 spacejesus
sorry to everybody for having the opinion that our leaders should be accomplished and exceptional people. i didn't realize it would be so offensive.
Just because you're accomplished an exceptional doesn't mean you'll be a good leader.
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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:28:13pm |
re: #296 Ben Hur
That's ridiculous.
I'd rather have a president that's been to all 57 states BEFORE running for president.
And the language thing is also ridiculous. (Yes I speak 3, my wife 5).
If all the states in the US spoke different languages like in Europe, more americans would speak more languages.
Of course, you may be one of those westerners who can't see beyond Europe, and forget about Asia, Africa and the ME, I don't think many Japanese speak Chinese or Korean. or vice versa, etc.
International business was once done in French then German. Now in English. Why learn Tongalese so Tonga Man can do business. Let him learn English.
Big Tonga is ripping us off!
And frankly, there must be a Palin connection to the Tongass National Forest in SE Alaska. Tsongas, anybody?
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quickjustice Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:28:18pm |
re: #303 spacejesus
Abraham Lincoln was a one-term congressman from Illinois with experience in the state legislature, without formal education, and with experience on the American frontier. He left the U.S. Congress under a cloud for opposing the popular Mexican War.
Sarah Palin is a lot like him.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:28:18pm |
re: #303 spacejesus
sorry to everybody for having the opinion that our leaders should be accomplished and exceptional people. i didn't realize it would be so offensive.
Are we going to get an apology for your being a whiny attention whore?
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:28:18pm |
Teh Left would like her more if she'd stripped her way through school with a herion addiction.
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capitalist piglet Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:28:29pm |
re: #301 MandyManners
Oh, dear me. LOL!
My real-life best friend just made Mandy blush.
This is a proud moment. Brings a little tear to my eye.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:28:30pm |
re: #316 Dianna
You're truly missing the point.
I paid my own way, and all those lovely internships and semesters overseas? Those went to people who could afford them. I couldn't afford - ever - not to be earning money.
If I'd had the looks, damned right I'd have been competing in pageants! I'm sure it would have been a hell of a lot easier than a few jobs I had.
those lovely externships or internships etc can also be achieved by working your ass off and getting good grades. also not being a slacker in high school helps too.
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:28:43pm |
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jill e Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:28:47pm |
I used to be a case manager for mentally ill adults. One of my clients had 2 Master's degrees.
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zombie Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:28:54pm |
Funny -- Obama won the election, but he still managed to be upstaged by Sarah Palin.
I bet he's fuming right about now.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:29:04pm |
re: #320 avanti
Here's a new poll:
Conservatives and moderates are split over the governor’s move. Fifty-two percent of self-identified GOP moderates said Palin’s move will hurt her chances in 2012, while only 37 percent of conservatives think she has harmed her chances.
“In general, the higher a Republican voter’s income level and educational achievement, the more likely he or she is to think Palin’s decision to resign will hurt her bid for the GOP nomination,” the polling firm observed in its analysis of the survey.
All of this is moot right now because WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE PLANS TO DO.
You don't, I don't, the people polled don't and the polling people don't.
It's amazing how we can decide on Palin's future all by ourselves, minus the person effected, PALIN.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:29:11pm |
re: #302 quickjustice
Like it or not, the buck stops there. Paulson was a disaster, as was Greenspan. The crisis started on Bush's watch. It'll take some time for Obama to own it.
Obama will never own it. That would be the mature thing to do. We call it "manning up." He will do his best to never accept responsibility and the media will do all it can to help him.
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Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:29:28pm |
re: #282 doppelganglander
And might I add that history, English and French are not general studies. They are liberal arts, which despite all the snickering from engineers are important and valuable areas of study.
/English major
//not a teacher
///and yes, I DO use my degree on the job.
Soviet Studies.
I do not use my degree on the job.
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:30:08pm |
re: #320 avanti
That's about what I figured. It was a dumb move in my opinion, if she did it to run for the White House, but not fatal to her, depending on what she does from here on.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:30:08pm |
re: #324 spacejesus
Good it gives me a second chance to down ding it.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:30:13pm |
re: #327 BlueCanuck
Okay, so explain Obama. What has he accomplished or done that's exceptional?
He was editor of the Harvard Law Review, which is hard as hell to do. Hell, making it onto Harvard's LR is probably hard as hell alone. He was also a good professor later on.
Other than that, not much. That's why I don't really think he is qualified for the presidency.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:30:18pm |
re: #345 Dianna
Soviet Studies.
I do not use my degree on the job.
But you use your education daily.
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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:30:27pm |
re: #298 iceweasel
To be somewhat fair, AK does have a Department of Law -- but no-one knows what the hell Palin was referring to when claiming the WH has one (the Office of Legal Counsel, maybe?) and in any case there is no body that could 'automatically' throw out charges against the POTUS in the way she suggests.
People from states with a DMV still say "DMV", even when visiting states with an MVD. Same with commonwealths.
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ointmentfly Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:30:32pm |
re: #311 jcm
Bush tried to clamp down on Fannie and Freddie, Bwarney Fwank and others blocked those attempts.
The roots of the crisis go back to Rabbit Bait and the CRA, Clinton didn't help by mandating more sub-prime loans. It didn't start on GWB's watch it exploded on his, he tried to pulling the fuse but Bwarney Fwank kept sticking it back it.
GWB's response could have been better than the TARP.
Anytime an entitlement is created, in this case unrealistically cheap money for housing, it becomes a "third rail" and cannot be touched by any politician lest they want to be back in the private sector. Bush couldn't do a damn thing.
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jcm Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:30:35pm |
re: #341 zombie
Funny -- Obama won the election, but he still managed to be upstaged by Sarah Palin.
I bet he's fuming right about now.
He's in Russia at a Summit......
and getting upstaged.
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redc1c4 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:30:38pm |
re: #327 BlueCanuck
Okay, so explain Obama. What has he accomplished or done that's exceptional?
he's doing a magnificent j*b of destroying the economy and crushing freedom.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:30:50pm |
re: #343 _RememberTonyC
Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah failed policies of the last 8 years blah blah blah blah blah blah blah ......
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kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:30:57pm |
re: #349 spacejesus
He was editor of the Harvard Law Review, which is hard as hell to do. Hell, making it onto Harvard's LR is probably hard as hell alone. He was also a good professor later on.
Other than that, not much. That's why I don't really think he is qualified for the presidency.
Prove it by showing something he "edited".
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Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:31:11pm |
re: #327 BlueCanuck
Okay, so explain Obama. What has he accomplished or done that's exceptional?
He won.
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hans ze beeman Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:31:18pm |
re: #345 Dianna
So you're not a Berkeley academic? /
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Spider Mensch Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:31:34pm |
re: #324 spacejesus
quoting this for eternal posterity.
and for eternal posterior, because to people here, you'll always be an ass!
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:31:48pm |
re: #354 redc1c4
he's doing a magnificent j*b of destroying the economy and crushing freedom.
Now now , I went on vaction for 2 + weeks and when I came back today THANKFULLY I still have my job that Obama "saved" for me !
///
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Mithrax Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:31:48pm |
re: #345 Dianna
Soviet Studies.
I do not use my degree on the job.
BA in Political Science
Master of Divinity
Oddly enough I use the former more than the latter :P
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mattm Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:31:51pm |
Anyone watch the Michael Jackson memorial thingy. The fans screaming "I love you Michael" just makes it soooo classy.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:31:52pm |
"quoting this for eternal posterity"
The ego is simply incredible.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:32:27pm |
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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:33:08pm |
re: #338 spacejesus
those lovely externships or internships etc can also be achieved by working your ass off and getting good grades. also not being a slacker in high school helps too.
One more time - in many fields, the best internships do not pay. A person still has to cover his/her living expenses, which may be even higher than they are at school. I couldn't afford to pay my daughter's expenses during her internships (she had 3), so she actually found internships that paid. In the summer, during Christmas, and while she was on campus, she had other jobs. In other words, she worked. She recently graduated and found a job in her field, BTW.
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hous bin pharteen Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:33:11pm |
Ron Paul?
He is better than the next nut job, after Al Frankenstien.
[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]
Alec Baldwin: Another rich nut job. You love these limo libs. They wont even run in the state they are from or lived in or live in. It is all for just some where they can get elected easy.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:33:15pm |
re: #363 mattm
Anyone watch the Michael Jackson memorial thingy. The fans screaming "I love you Michael" just makes it soooo classy.
I wish I had the Sequened Glove Concession Stand !
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hans ze beeman Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:33:26pm |
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:33:30pm |
re: #320 avanti
Here's a new poll:
Conservatives and moderates are split over the governor’s move. Fifty-two percent of self-identified GOP moderates said Palin’s move will hurt her chances in 2012, while only 37 percent of conservatives think she has harmed her chances.
“In general, the higher a Republican voter’s income level and educational achievement, the more likely he or she is to think Palin’s decision to resign will hurt her bid for the GOP nomination,” the polling firm observed in its analysis of the survey.
Avanti-- this is one reason why Rasmussen polls are generally pretty worthless. They only polled self-identified Republicans. GOP identification is at a low right now, so that's automatically a smaller than usual sample. And this shows only how she's fairing with people likely to vote Republican anyway-- not independents, centrists, and moderates.
There will be a Gallup poll later today, I heard, sampling all likely voters, not just self-identified republicans.
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Eowyn2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:33:30pm |
re: #153 SpaceJesus
yeah, she took time off so she could run in beauty pagents. oh, and you do realize there are these amazing things called scholarships for smart hard-working folk right?
you do realize that there are scholarships for beauty queens right?
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:33:54pm |
re: #365 MandyManners
The "freaks" bit leads me to believe it's dirty.
You asked me, "Strapless?"
and I answered, "On."
Not so funny now.
You ruined it.
LOL!
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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:33:57pm |
re: #323 albusteve
swing and a miss....it's your elitist insults that are offensive to some...me?...I could care less what you have to say...ramble on all you want
Half and half. I agree that it's not offensive personally, but it is not interesting. It's just childish, and I just want it to go away. Anybody who wants to get all agitated by idiots is at the wrong site--unless we keep feeding the troll.
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jcm Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:34:01pm |
re: #363 mattm
Anyone watch the Michael Jackson memorial thingy. The fans screaming "I love you Michael" just makes it soooo classy.
He's dead Jim!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:34:03pm |
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:34:03pm |
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:34:20pm |
re: #349 spacejesus
He was editor of the Harvard Law Review, which is hard as hell to do. Hell, making it onto Harvard's LR is probably hard as hell alone. He was also a good professor later on.
Other than that, not much. That's why I don't really think he is qualified for the presidency.
There has been only one article found which he wrote for HLR, and it's a pretty lame bit a boiler plate. His contemporaries at HLR said he was rarely around and did nothing when he was there. That's been the pattern of his life: looks good in a suit, gives a good interview, gets the job & then screws the pooch from then on. He's faking it. Palin at least did her job as mayor & then as Governor.
I'm relieved to hear you realize Obama is a fraud.
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quickjustice Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:34:21pm |
re: #343 _RememberTonyC
You assume Obama can choose whether or not to own it. He can try to avoid ownership, but that's a stall tactic. Eventually, he will come to own the economic crisis, particularly if his policies fail, as now seems likely.
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subsailor68 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:34:24pm |
re: #362 Mithrax
BA in Political Science
Master of DivinityOddly enough I use the former more than the latter :P
Actually sounds like a pretty good combination. A pastor needs great skills in both areas!
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Last Mohican Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:34:35pm |
re: #327 BlueCanuck
Okay, so explain Obama. What has he accomplished or done that's exceptional?
A lot, actually.
He got into Harvard Law School, despite being a very poor student in college.
He was made president of the Harvard Law Review, despite never having published anything.
He convinced 80% of American Jews to vote for him, despite having spent most of his adult life proudly advertising his membership in an anti-Semitic hate group.
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Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:34:37pm |
re: #303 spacejesus
sorry to everybody for having the opinion that our leaders should be accomplished and exceptional people. i didn't realize it would be so offensive.
No, the problem is thinking that you, in your own person, are an accomplished and exceptional person. Particularly as compared to Sarah Palin. Your choice of reasons to dismiss her are also - for those of us who do not share an elite background - not merely laughable, but the snobbish sort that any sensible (to say nothing of marginally gracious and mannerly) person treats with derision and scorn.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:34:41pm |
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zombie Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:34:47pm |
re: #353 jcm
He's in Russia at a Summit......
and getting upstaged.
Exactly.
The equivalent would be: Nixon goes to China in 1972 to re-align global politics...
...and all the headlines back home are about Edmund Muskie!
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:34:51pm |
re: #351 haakondahl
People from states with a DMV still say "DMV", even when visiting states with an MVD. Same with commonwealths.
Exactly. I give Palin a pass on referring to a "Department of Law". The real issue is that there isn't a body connected with the WH that can simply crush or dismiss allegations against the POTUS as she seemed to imply.
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midwestgak Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:35:02pm |
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capitalist piglet Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:35:16pm |
re: #327 BlueCanuck
Okay, so explain Obama. What has he accomplished or done that's exceptional?
I know! I know! Serious volunteer work!
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WinterCat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:35:18pm |
re: #254 quickjustice
With all due respect, the financial crisis started on Bush's watch. I think Obama is making it worse, but it'll take some time before the GOP has recovered from its tarnished reputation.
Congress has been controlled by the dems since 2006, has it not?
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:35:20pm |
re: #349 spacejesus
He was editor of the Harvard Law Review, which is hard as hell to do. Hell, making it onto Harvard's LR is probably hard as hell alone. He was also a good professor later on.
Other than that, not much. That's why I don't really think he is qualified for the presidency.
But he never published a single article that he wrote.
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Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:35:29pm |
re: #297 Walter L. Newton
And with your rotten people skills, all that fucking education and big plans will get you no where.
People who talk like you more often than not, manage to blow up their lives over and over.
Take it from me, if you act in person, in real life, the way you act here, you are destined for failure.
Now that's gonna leave a mark.
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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:35:48pm |
re: #353 jcm
He's in Russia at a Summit......
and getting upstaged.
The media is trying to avoid reporting on his trial balloon about arrogating to himself the powers of the legislative branch.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:35:50pm |
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VioletTiger Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:35:53pm |
re: #195 SpaceJesus
don't get me wrong here, if she had won a beauty pageant and gotten a masters, PhD etc in something challenging then I would respect her.
general studies? journalism? you serious? give me a break. the woman has yet to show she has any higher level mental faculties whatsoever, and every time she goes on tv and speaks like a bumpkin she just reconfirms it all again.
Why the educational snobbery? Don't we have enough lawyers in politics already?
So now we have a Harvard lawyer running things. How's that working for you?
Ronald Reagan was an actor btw. He studied economics and sociology in school.
I'd rather have a bumpkin with conservative principles than an Ivy league socialist any day.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:36:00pm |
re: #371 iceweasel
Avanti-- this is one reason why Rasmussen polls are generally pretty worthless. They only polled self-identified Republicans. GOP identification is at a low right now, so that's automatically a smaller than usual sample. And this shows only how she's fairing with people likely to vote Republican anyway-- not independents, centrists, and moderates.
There will be a Gallup poll later today, I heard, sampling all likely voters, not just self-identified republicans.
Avanti uses Rasmussen polls ANYTIME it helps prove his point. As sonn as Rasmussen comes out with a poll that shows Obama downtrending or something of that nature, he reverts to telling us Rasmussen is flawed and Nate Silver should be out goto poller.
It gets old. (does he think we don't notice?)
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Mithrax Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:36:19pm |
re: #381 subsailor68
Only the former.
The stuff I learned for the M.Div barely makes it out of the dusty recesses of my mind :P
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Dahveed Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:36:21pm |
re: #363 mattm
Anyone watch the Michael Jackson memorial thingy. The fans screaming "I love you Michael" just makes it soooo classy.
And a lot of these same people vote in elections. Thinking about that sends shivvers down my spine.
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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:36:23pm |
re: #345 Dianna
Soviet Studies.
I do not use my degree on the job.
Condoleezza Rice is a Soviet Studies PhD. My husband was a Russian linguist and wanted to pursue graduate work in Soviet Studies, but Gorbachev kind of pulled the rug out from under him. I would say you do use your degree on the job because you know how to read carefully and write coherently. As Space Jesus has demonstrated, those are increasingly rare skills.
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Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:36:42pm |
re: #338 spacejesus
those lovely externships or internships etc can also be achieved by working your ass off and getting good grades. also not being a slacker in high school helps too.
Dear me!
I believe I've just been called a name.
No, I was not a slacker.
And as for "working my ass off" - my dear boy, I will stack my grades against yours (while working full time).
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:36:44pm |
Real close combat in Afghanistan......
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capitalist piglet Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:36:44pm |
re: #336 Ben Hur
Teh Left would like her more if she'd stripped her way through school with a herion addiction.
But only if she were a liberal.
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:36:48pm |
re: #349 spacejesus
And Obama was a Lecturer and a Senior Lecturer. He was never a Professor.
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redc1c4 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:36:52pm |
re: #349 spacejesus
He was editor of the Harvard Law Review, which is hard as hell to do. Hell, making it onto Harvard's LR is probably hard as hell alone. He was also a good professor later on.
Other than that, not much. That's why I don't really think he is qualified for the presidency.
we were talking about Ear Leader, not some person of actual achievement.
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Danny Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:36:59pm |
re: #396 VioletTiger
Why the educational snobbery? Don't we have enough lawyers in politics already?
More than enough.
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zombie Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:37:01pm |
All my conservative friends are suffering from MDS -- Muskie Derangement Syndrome.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:37:05pm |
re: #397 Walter L. Newton
It gets old. (does he think we don't notice?)
in a word , YES , just like many "progressives"
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:37:06pm |
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:37:09pm |
this thread is a jest, I assume...for purposes of ranting...otherwise who in the hell would care about a poll taken about Palins popularity and future?....this is maximum AmIdol politics for the bored....I just think it's amusing anyone would think she is that important with regard to the problems this country faces...right now, this minute....it's a weird obsession
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lawhawk Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:37:17pm |
re: #303 spacejesus
sorry to everybody for having the opinion that our leaders should be accomplished and exceptional people. i didn't realize it would be so offensive.
Accomplished and exceptional? So you opposed Obama's nomination since he was exceptional only in the tremendous ambition to become President with the least experience of any candidate in the 20th and 21st Centuries to date? He was a back bencher in the Senate, middling in the state legislature, and a community organizer. That's not exactly the stuff of being accomplished.
Going to an Ivy League school opens up opportunities, I'll give you that, but those that opened for Obama are unprecedented given his sparse history before and after.
Palin did something that few others managed to do. She became the governor of her state. She left on her own terms, unlike the Ivy Leaguers Spitzer or McGreevy.
Education is only one aspect of a person's makeup, and matters little in the grand scheme of whether someone is capable of great things in politics. Charisma and the ability to get along with others matters a great deal.
Reflect upon this.
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WinterCat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:37:36pm |
re: #386 iceweasel
Exactly. I give Palin a pass on referring to a "Department of Law". The real issue is that there isn't a body connected with the WH that can simply crush or dismiss allegations against the POTUS as she seemed to imply.
Yes there is. It's called the MSM.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:38:00pm |
re: #383 Dianna
No, the problem is thinking that you, in your own person, are an accomplished and exceptional person. Particularly as compared to Sarah Palin. Your choice of reasons to dismiss her are also - for those of us who do not share an elite background - not merely laughable, but the snobbish sort that any sensible (to say nothing of marginally gracious and mannerly) person treats with derision and scorn.
Do I have a more distinguished educational career than Palin? without a doubt. Does that mean I'm half as intelligent as great presidents who have come before? hell no. I want exceptional leadership, not some pop politician ditz.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:38:21pm |
re: #396 VioletTiger
Why the educational snobbery? Don't we have enough lawyers in politics already?
So now we have a Harvard lawyer running things. How's that working for you?
Ronald Reagan was an actor btw. He studied economics and sociology in school.
I'd rather have a bumpkin with conservative principles than an Ivy league socialist any day.
teh jeebus is a college kid himself
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jcm Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:38:21pm |
re: #380 quickjustice
You assume Obama can choose whether or not to own it. He can try to avoid ownership, but that's a stall tactic. Eventually, he will come to own the economic crisis, particularly if his policies fail, as now seems likely.
He's chosen to own it.......
Asked when the public should begin to judge the effects of the stimulus, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said, "I think we should begin to judge it now."
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Eowyn2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:38:26pm |
re: #252 LGoPs
evidently it is all in the way she says 'schedule'
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:38:52pm |
re: #374 haakondahl
Half and half. I agree that it's not offensive personally, but it is not interesting. It's just childish, and I just want it to go away. Anybody who wants to get all agitated by idiots is at the wrong site--unless we keep feeding the troll.
well he's well fed...people denounce Palin for not turning the other cheek, then spent all this time brawling over nothing imo
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:39:09pm |
re: #410 albusteve
this thread is a jest, I assume...for purposes of ranting...otherwise who in the hell would care about a poll taken about Palins popularity and future?....this is maximum AmIdol politics for the bored....I just think it's amusing anyone would think she is that important with regard to the problems this country faces...right now, this minute....it's a weird obsession
You are so right.
Like I said above, since we don't know why Palin did what she did, or what her future plans are, our opinion on the questions above are moot, and in no way can they be answered honestly, IMO.
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jill e Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:39:09pm |
The only thing that interferes with my learning is my education. —Albert Einstein
When I think back
On all the crap I learned in high school
It's a wonder
I can think at all
And though my lack of edu---cation
Hasn't hurt me none
I can read the writing on the wall
—Paul Simon
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NoWhereAlaska Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:39:39pm |
re: #312 spacejesus
Oh great "socrates of the blogosphere," you are overdue for your cup of hemlock.
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Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:39:53pm |
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avanti Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:40:03pm |
re: #397 Walter L. Newton
Avanti uses Rasmussen polls ANYTIME it helps prove his point. As sonn as Rasmussen comes out with a poll that shows Obama downtrending or something of that nature, he reverts to telling us Rasmussen is flawed and Nate Silver should be out goto poller.
It gets old. (does he think we don't notice?)
Gee, I thought the subject was a Palin poll, Rasmussen was the first out, and you guys like his polls. There was nothing very negative in his poll to upset you. Gallup should be out shortly and I'll post that too.
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:40:29pm |
re: #320 avanti
Here's a new poll:
Conservatives and moderates are split over the governor’s move. Fifty-two percent of self-identified GOP moderates said Palin’s move will hurt her chances in 2012, while only 37 percent of conservatives think she has harmed her chances.
“In general, the higher a Republican voter’s income level and educational achievement, the more likely he or she is to think Palin’s decision to resign will hurt her bid for the GOP nomination,” the polling firm observed in its analysis of the survey.
Interesting, avanti. Thank you.
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Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:40:36pm |
re: #312 spacejesus
too bad mensch comes from german, and it actually just means person, or alternatively, a humanitarian.
has palin done any serious volunteer work either?
Oy vey. Mensch, in its common Yiddish, un-elitist usage refers to a person who acts with dignity, grace under fire, ethics, etc. When someone is called a mensch, they are being praised for being the opposite of you.
Why are you acting like such a dickhead?
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subsailor68 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:40:36pm |
Oh yay, the Dow is down about 139. I must have missed the announcement that Obama and Biden were holding a joint town hall meeting on the cool new ideas they came up with during their state dinner with Cheech and Chong.
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quickjustice Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:40:48pm |
re: #391 redstateredneck
You're both wrong. By the time Obama was elected President of the Harvard Law Review, it was a political position. The position formerly had been earned with the highest grades in school, as was a position on law review.
Obama persuaded a group of Harvard Law conservatives to vote for him, locking up the election.
He appears to have published a single "Note" in the law review, which is an anonymous scholarly work.
My impression is that he was a decent, but not exceptional, law professor.
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hans ze beeman Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:40:57pm |
re: #423 Dianna
I thought Soviet studies and mindset are required to enter there as an academic teacher
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MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:41:14pm |
re: #422 NoWhereAlaska
Oh great "socrates of the blogosphere," you are overdue for your cup of hemlock.
Now now, I think an exlax cocoa would be adequate.
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KenJen Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:41:19pm |
re: #388 midwestgak
If not, a whole lot of time and money was spent remembering him./
I heard people were having tailgating parties. This may mean something different to MJ fans than it does to me.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:41:59pm |
re: #380 quickjustice
You assume Obama can choose whether or not to own it. He can try to avoid ownership, but that's a stall tactic. Eventually, he will come to own the economic crisis, particularly if his policies fail, as now seems likely.
you're probably right, but he has a way of "skating" on lots of things.
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redc1c4 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:42:53pm |
re: #380 quickjustice
You assume Obama can choose whether or not to own it. He can try to avoid ownership, but that's a stall tactic. Eventually, he will come to own the economic crisis, particularly if his policies fail, as now seems likely.
the market is down about 144 points right now......
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Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:43:05pm |
re: #399 Dahveed
And a lot of these same people vote in elections. Thinking about that sends shivvers down my spine.
I don't know - they seem like the type who never vote because they're afraid they'll get jury duty if they register.
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Eowyn2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:43:10pm |
re: #345 Dianna
Soviet Studies.
I do not use my degree on the job.
I'll bet you use the unnecessary 'general studies' part of the degree though.
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Sharmuta Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:43:26pm |
re: #353 jcm
He's in Russia at a Summit......
and getting upstaged.
And that's bad, considering he's the one with the power. Nice distraction (along with MJ) for the press to not tell us what's going on with 0bama.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:43:28pm |
re: #426 Gang of One
Why are you acting like such a dickhead?
The answer is self-explanatory, like why a chicken acts like a chicken.
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Dahveed Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:43:45pm |
re: #426 Gang of One
Oy vey. Mensch, in its common Yiddish, un-elitist usage refers to a person who acts with dignity, grace under fire, ethics, etc. When someone is called a mensch, they are being praised for being the opposite of you.
Why are you acting like such a dickhead?
Acting? I think this is not acting. This is someone who is being quite authentic.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:43:51pm |
re: #402 Killgore Trout
Real close combat in Afghanistan......
whoa...just like Call of Duty....yikes!
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lawhawk Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:44:18pm |
re: #429 quickjustice
You're both wrong. By the time Obama was elected President of the Harvard Law Review, it was a political position. The position formerly had been earned with the highest grades in school, as was a position on law review.
Obama persuaded a group of Harvard Law conservatives to vote for him, locking up the election.
He appears to have published a single "Note" in the law review, which is an anonymous scholarly work.
My impression is that he was a decent, but not exceptional, law professor.
He was not a professor. He was a lecturer (aka adjunct). Never tenured, although I did read somewhere that an offer was extended to bring him onto the faculty as a full time member.
Words have meanings.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:44:20pm |
re: #424 avanti
Gee, I thought the subject was a Palin poll, Rasmussen was the first out, and you guys like his polls. There was nothing very negative in his poll to upset you. Gallup should be out shortly and I'll post that too.
My point being, you NEVER have anything nice to say about Rasmussen polls, so why the hell would you post a link to one and say anything positive about it. It's literally an insult that you would drop in here and fuck with us like this. You know exactly what you are doing.
What do you think we are, absolutely stupid beyond stupid?
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MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:44:40pm |
re: #436 Mad Al-Jaffee
I don't know - they seem like the type who never vote because they're afraid they'll get jury duty if they register.
Heh, they got around that here in MD, they just use the MVA now.
/worlds smallest violin for those who thought they "got out of it"
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Eowyn2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:44:49pm |
re: #422 NoWhereAlaska
Oh great "socrates of the blogosphere," you are overdue for your cup of hemlock.
Is that you Todd?
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BlueCanuck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:44:55pm |
I am done, keep bashing away folks. See you next time.
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Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:45:03pm |
re: #349 spacejesus
He was editor of the Harvard Law Review, which is hard as hell to do. Hell, making it onto Harvard's LR is probably hard as hell alone. He was also a good professor later on.
Other than that, not much. That's why I don't really think he is qualified for the presidency.
Please. He is where he is for no other reason than Caucasian guilt.
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KenJen Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:45:03pm |
re: #413 SpaceJesus
Do I have a more distinguished educational career than Palin? without a doubt. Does that mean I'm half as intelligent as great presidents who have come before? hell no. I want exceptional leadership, not some pop politician ditz.
Everything you have said about Palin (incorrectly so) applies to BHO.
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quickjustice Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:45:18pm |
re: #443 lawhawk
Touche, hawk. You're correct about the academic pecking order.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:45:20pm |
It's interesting that the number who think it hurt her chances and the number who strongly approve are tracking so closely.
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:45:24pm |
re: #438 Sharmuta
And that's bad, considering he's the one with the power. Nice distraction (along with MJ) for the press to not tell us what's going on with 0bama.
Precisely why Rahm had Michael whacked.
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debutaunt Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:45:37pm |
re: #349 spacejesus
He was editor of the Harvard Law Review, which is hard as hell to do. Hell, making it onto Harvard's LR is probably hard as hell alone. He was also a good professor later on.
Other than that, not much. That's why I don't really think he is qualified for the presidency.
Well, as long as he wasn't a dope-smokin' slacker who never held a job.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:45:44pm |
re: #435 Kenneth
I think they were Brits. I was surprised watching that, I had no idea the Taliban was in the sane trench. It's amazing they stayed as calm as they did. Very impressive.
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Eowyn2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:45:51pm |
time to do more work.
work work work
where there's a whip, there's a way
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Last Mohican Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:45:51pm |
re: #312 spacejesus
too bad mensch comes from german, and it actually just means person, or alternatively, a humanitarian.
Wrong. You know what your problem is? You're an ignorant country bumpkin with an insufficient understanding of foreign languages.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:45:58pm |
re: #411 lawhawk
Accomplished and exceptional? So you opposed Obama's nomination since he was exceptional only in the tremendous ambition to become President with the least experience of any candidate in the 20th and 21st Centuries to date? He was a back bencher in the Senate, middling in the state legislature, and a community organizer. That's not exactly the stuff of being accomplished.
Going to an Ivy League school opens up opportunities, I'll give you that, but those that opened for Obama are unprecedented given his sparse history before and after.
Palin did something that few others managed to do. She became the governor of her state. She left on her own terms, unlike the Ivy Leaguers Spitzer or McGreevy.
Education is only one aspect of a person's makeup, and matters little in the grand scheme of whether someone is capable of great things in politics. Charisma and the ability to get along with others matters a great deal.
Reflect upon this.
yeah, education is one aspect i listed among several. and not just any education mind you, but an education in something that will aid the president in his or her career. and yes, I did oppose Obama.
I voted for Bob Barr by the way
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hous bin pharteen Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:46:50pm |
OT: An Michael J is getting buried without his brain. I knew he didn't have one! [Link: www.mirror.co.uk...] By the way. You gotta love the Liberal Left wing capital of LA. Where you can away we with being a serial child molester or a mass murderer. (OJ. He never would have got away with it in Buffalo) Where you have riots after playoff games (lakers)and rampent drug use among the rich people living there. And the home of very rich and major street gangs. Is there any SANE people there. At least you can lock them all up there.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:46:55pm |
re: #397 Walter L. Newton
I'm a bit of a poll geek myself, and I've learned to disregard all Rassmussen polls. They've become increasingly worthless.
Nate Silver is the best guy around, in my opinion, because he'll offer extensive deconstruction/analysis of polls. He knows what he's doing.
Any single poll is only ever as good as its methods though, which means sample, sample size, questions asked and framing of questions all have to be taken into account.
Rasmussen as a pollster has consistently fucked up on all of those often enough that I don't take them seriously anymore.
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hans ze beeman Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:47:02pm |
re: #426 Gang of One
Gornischt comes from the German "gar nichts", btw, meaning nothing (of course)
Oh, and a German word for space jesus would be Egowichser (won't translate...)
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VioletTiger Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:47:14pm |
re: #404 Kenneth
And Obama was a Lecturer and a Senior Lecturer. He was never a Professor.
And we still haven't seen anything he wrote in college. What the hell did he do? What was his thesis? Was it feces?
We may never know.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:47:22pm |
re: #445 MrSilverDragon
Heh, they got around that here in MD, they just use the MVA now.
/worlds smallest violin for those who thought they "got out of it"
The real stupid thing is why does everyone want to get out of jury duty? Every time I'm called to go in, I hope to serve. I want someone like me on the jury - someone who doesn't watch stupid crime/forensics tv shows and thinks he knows everything about crime, someone who reads and pays attention to politics and current events.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:47:45pm |
re: #424 avanti
Gee, I thought the subject was a Palin poll, Rasmussen was the first out, and you guys like his polls. There was nothing very negative in his poll to upset you. Gallup should be out shortly and I'll post that too.
boy, I can hardly wait to miss that one too!
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Dahveed Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:47:48pm |
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rollwave87 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:47:51pm |
I'm a moderate Republican, a Jewish Republican, and a gay Republican (among other things). In other words, I am not a conservative Republican. But I have supported Sarah Palin since before John McCain picked her last year (a decision I was praying he would make), and I will continue to ardently do so. Not to sound too self-important, but the fact that even someone such as myself is a Palin backer does more to refute the media stereotypes about her and her supporters than Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck ever could. I've disagreed with the Governor, especially when she came out in support of Miss 'Opposite Marriage' in California a few months ago, but I have no doubt that, while fallible, she is a figure of epic proportions re: the American experience.
I think she made the right decision last week. Anyone who thinks a mother and athlete like Sarah Palin is a quitter is an exceptionally poor judge of human character.
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apachegunner Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:48:10pm |
re: #214 MandyManners
Well, I *was* a contestant in high school.
and I married one who turned into a monster two years later :>(
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Last Mohican Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:48:16pm |
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subsailor68 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:48:18pm |
re: #457 SpaceJesus
I voted for Bob Barr by the way
Oh, so you were the other one. With a total of two votes, now that Barr knows about you, I think his wife has some 'splainin to do.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:48:22pm |
re: #448 Gang of One
Please. He is where he is for no other reason than Caucasian guilt.
not really, the dems could have run a fart in a jar and still won after bush
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ladycatnip Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:48:27pm |
OT
James Lewis at American Thinker has a great piece about Obama reads Pushkin.
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quickjustice Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:48:33pm |
re: #451 Charles
As I said up-thread, if her motives were to position herself for the Presidency in 2012, she's hurt herself. If her motives are personal, as she claims, then she's done the right thing to choose her family over her political career, despite having hurt herself politically.
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:49:00pm |
re: #464 Dahveed
Because Ron Paul wasn't on the ballot?
or alternatively, because i agree with his platform and his experience?
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KenJen Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:49:02pm |
re: #457 SpaceJesus
yeah, education is one aspect i listed among several. and not just any education mind you, but an education in something that will aid the president in his or her career. and yes, I did oppose Obama.
I voted for Bob Barr by the way
That dude went to at least five different colleges. One a community college.
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Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:49:17pm |
re: #413 SpaceJesus
Do I have a more distinguished educational career than Palin? without a doubt. Does that mean I'm half as intelligent as great presidents who have come before? hell no. I want exceptional leadership, not some pop politician ditz.
Bluntly, I do not disagree with your last sentence. The rest of it? I have not seen any proof of your distinguished anything.
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LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:49:22pm |
re: #383 Dianna
No, the problem is thinking that you, in your own person, are an accomplished and exceptional person. Particularly as compared to Sarah Palin. Your choice of reasons to dismiss her are also - for those of us who do not share an elite background - not merely laughable, but the snobbish sort that any sensible (to say nothing of marginally gracious and mannerly) person treats with derision and scorn.
I forthwith dub him SpaceJunk.
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sphincter Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:49:47pm |
I'm not sure why everyone is so interested in Sarah Palin at the present time. Something's going on, but way too much can happen between now and 2012. Not necessarily good things either.
I am of the camp that hopes she takes this opportunity to go make some coin (she can, and she will) and enjoy her family. They've dragged her and her family through dreck none of us (I hope) ever have to go through.
Joe Biden meanwhile gets a pass? Geez!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:50:24pm |
re: #441 albusteve
If you watch carefuly at about 1:16 one of them runs off to the left of the camera. The guy with the helmet cam doesn't follow. I assume his buddies took care of that one.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:50:28pm |
re: #466 apachegunner
and I married one who turned into a monster two years later :>(
(((((((apachegunner)))))))
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WinterCat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:50:28pm |
re: #457 SpaceJesus
yeah, education is one aspect i listed among several. and not just any education mind you, but an education in something that will aid the president in his or her career. and yes, I did oppose Obama.
I voted for Bob Barr by the way
The Libertarian candidate? Making a statement, eh? Oh, then I can thank you for helping make Obama's presidential aspirations a reality.
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:50:29pm |
re: #465 rollwave87
I'm a moderate Republican, a Jewish Republican, and a gay Republican
Wait a second.
You're a Republican............and you're......................Jewish?
(psyche! LOL!)
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Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:50:51pm |
re: #426 Gang of One
Oy vey. Mensch, in its common Yiddish, un-elitist usage refers to a person who acts with dignity, grace under fire, ethics, etc. When someone is called a mensch, they are being praised for being the opposite of you.
Why are you acting like such a dickhead?
Because he doesn't know - or care? - that Yiddish is High Middle German?
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Racer X Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:50:51pm |
re: #451 Charles
It's interesting that the number who think it hurt her chances and the number who strongly approve are tracking so closely.
I think Palin resigning certainly hurt her chances at a presidential run in 2012. But I honestly do not think that is her goal.
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Adrenalyn Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:51:03pm |
re: #457 SpaceJesus
yeah, education is one aspect i listed among several. and not just any education mind you, but an education in something that will aid the president in his or her career. and yes, I did oppose Obama.
I voted for Bob Barr by the way
so, does this mean you also handle loaded guns in a unsafe manner ?
/remind me to stay away from you AND Bob Barr at gun shows
/if I was ever inclined to go to one
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MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:51:16pm |
re: #462 Mad Al-Jaffee
The real stupid thing is why does everyone want to get out of jury duty? Every time I'm called to go in, I hope to serve. I want someone like me on the jury - someone who doesn't watch stupid crime/forensics tv shows and thinks he knows everything about crime, someone who reads and pays attention to politics and current events.
I'm with you right there. I was sent summons quite a few times, and on my last one I was actually called in. I was looking forward to being a part of the process, but unfortunately it just turned into a 3 hour wait and being sent home, as the case was postponed. I look forward to the next summons, and I hope to get selected, as I'm more than proud to perform my civic duty.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:51:20pm |
re: #443 lawhawk
He was not a professor. He was a lecturer (aka adjunct). Never tenured, although I did read somewhere that an offer was extended to bring him onto the faculty as a full time member.
Words have meanings.
Senior Lecturer, and at UChi they are called professors, although they technically are not. UChi released a statement to this effect. It's not accurate to call him an adjunct, as though that were equivalent to what adjunct means elsewhere in academia.
He was offered fulltime status more than once, IIRC.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:51:28pm |
re: #469 SpaceJesus
not really, the dems could have run a fart in a jar and still won after bush
BDS is strong stuff...very toxic, you are correct
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Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:51:30pm |
re: #413 SpaceJesus
I want exceptional leadership, not some pop politician ditz.
Then you really oppose Obama?
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OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:51:35pm |
re: #435 Kenneth
Were they Aussies or UK troops?
The rifle looks like an Enfield SA-80; AFAIK the Aussies use a Steyr AUG variant now.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:51:52pm |
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Spider Mensch Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:52:15pm |
re: #461 VioletTiger
And we still haven't seen anything he wrote in college. What the hell did he do? What was his thesis? Was it feces?
We may never know.
we know what michelles was.."white people suck, and i'm mad at them!"
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:52:39pm |
re: #479 Killgore Trout
If you watch carefuly at about 1:16 one of them runs off to the left of the camera. The guy with the helmet cam doesn't follow. I assume his buddies took care of that one.
I've never really seen a vid like that...rarely do you see the bad guys...really amazing, and you are right about the cool factor
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Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:52:52pm |
re: #430 hans ze beeman
I thought Soviet studies and mindset are required to enter there as an academic teacher
Ha!
I will remark that the very best professor I had was Rosa Glickman of Berkeley. And you cannot say she deeply admired the Soviets.
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avanti Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:53:17pm |
re: #444 Walter L. Newton
What do you think we are, absolutely stupid beyond stupid?
Nope, but some are more interested in a pissing contest then a discussion,
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redc1c4 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:53:19pm |
re: #452 Ben Hur
Precisely why Rahm had Michael whacked.
i thought Farrah was involved in that happening....
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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:53:27pm |
re: #457 SpaceJesus
yeah, education is one aspect i listed among several. and not just any education mind you, but an education in something that will aid the president in his or her career. and yes, I did oppose Obama.
I voted for Bob Barr by the way
Suddenly it all makes sense.
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VioletTiger Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:53:48pm |
re: #382 Last Mohican
A lot, actually.
He got into Harvard Law School, despite being a very poor student in college.
He was made president of the Harvard Law Review, despite never having published anything.
He convinced 80% of American Jews to vote for him, despite having spent most of his adult life proudly advertising his membership in an anti-Semitic hate group.
In other words, he's the biggest bullshit artist of all time?
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:53:56pm |
re: #459 iceweasel
I'm a bit of a poll geek myself, and I've learned to disregard all Rassmussen polls. They've become increasingly worthless.
Nate Silver is the best guy around, in my opinion, because he'll offer extensive deconstruction/analysis of polls. He knows what he's doing.
Any single poll is only ever as good as its methods though, which means sample, sample size, questions asked and framing of questions all have to be taken into account.
Rasmussen as a pollster has consistently fucked up on all of those often enough that I don't take them seriously anymore.
And I agree about Rasmussen.
And for Avanti to post one of his polls, when Avanti himself is constantly trashing Rasmussen polls, is disingenuous on his part.
And then Avanti sits back and say "well, I thought you guys like Rasmussen polls, gee, I was being nice, gee that's wrong, gee aren't I so nice."
Like I said above, it is an insult to all of us, left or right, when Avanti leaves comments of this nature and then plays dumb.
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debutaunt Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:54:01pm |
re: #397 Walter L. Newton
Avanti uses Rasmussen polls ANYTIME it helps prove his point. As sonn as Rasmussen comes out with a poll that shows Obama downtrending or something of that nature, he reverts to telling us Rasmussen is flawed and Nate Silver should be out goto poller.
It gets old. (does he think we don't notice?)
And no stock market reports recently either.
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Lee Coller Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:54:04pm |
re: #457 SpaceJesus
I voted for Bob Barr by the way
You wasted your vote. By the way, it's really hard to believe that someone whose taken the socially liberal and atheistic views voted for Bob Barr, or perhaps you weren't aware of that aspect of his beliefs?
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:54:08pm |
re: #492 Spider Mensch
we know what michelles was.."white people suck, and i'm mad at them!"
Chapter One: Why Are There White People at Princeton?
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Kragar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:54:37pm |
re: #451 Charles
It's interesting that the number who think it hurt her chances and the number who strongly approve are tracking so closely.
Personally, I'm not really a Palin fan, so my approval of her is neutral. Objectively though, I feel that her resignation hurt her chances for the nomination later, not that she has my support for it at this point.
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OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:54:51pm |
re: #475 Dianna
Bluntly, I do not disagree with your last sentence. The rest of it? I have not seen any proof of your distinguished anything.
accomplished dickhead, distinguished dickhead, who cares?
/
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redc1c4 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:54:52pm |
re: #458 hous bin pharteen
OT: An Michael J is getting buried without his brain. I knew he didn't have one! [Link: www.mirror.co.uk...] By the way. You gotta love the Liberal Left wing capital of LA. Where you can away we with being a serial child molester or a mass murderer. (OJ. He never would have got away with it in Buffalo) Where you have riots after playoff games (lakers)and rampent drug use among the rich people living there. And the home of very rich and major street gangs. Is there any SANE people there. At least you can lock them all up there.
well, there's me, PBJ, and a few others.....
oh....... wait.
you said sane.
/nevermind
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lawhawk Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:55:14pm |
Once again, the feds are rushing to stop the free market in operation. Their latest? Let's eliminate speculating on oil futures (the same kind of speculation that allows airlines try and reduce their costs by speculating about prices down the road so as to reduce their costs).
This is bad news (yet again). Obama simply doesn't get that the markets set prices, and speculation in the market sends prices going, as does world events. This is another hit at the financial markets in NYC, which are already on the ropes (and slams the NYS and NYC budgets which are heavily dependent on those trades), as well as the CBOT and other exchanges.
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Danny Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:55:19pm |
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Last Mohican Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:55:33pm |
re: #491 Charles
Number five is pretty concerning. It says the Palins have had to spend more than $500,000 to defend themselves against 15 frivolous ethical complaints in the past eight months. She was exonerated in all cases, but Alaska law requires that she spend her own money in her defense.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:55:34pm |
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OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:55:47pm |
re: #495 avanti
Nope, but some are more interested in a pissing contest then a discussion,
Wow, you mean we're on the INTERNET?
LOL.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:55:49pm |
re: #491 Charles
Big deal. So now TIME is chiming in on the subject. I don't like Palin, but I certainly will give her the benefit of the doubt until SHE tells us why she quit, until SHE tells us what her future plans are.
Pundits seethe and rage all the time, and many times they are wrong.
I'll wait.
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:55:55pm |
re: #496 redc1c4
i thought Farrah was involved in that happening....
No.
When she got to heaven, she just asked G-d to protect the children and then G-d instructed Rahm to whack Michael.
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apachegunner Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:56:26pm |
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Kragar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:56:38pm |
re: #479 Killgore Trout
If you watch carefuly at about 1:16 one of them runs off to the left of the camera. The guy with the helmet cam doesn't follow. I assume his buddies took care of that one.
Fields of fire, everyone would have an assigned area they are responsible to cover. If he kept after the guy, his sector would have been left vulnerable, so he would notify the guy whose sector the target ran into. Thats what they're trained to do.
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redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:56:38pm |
re: #504 Sharmuta
The cynic in me thinks it's the money.
I think it's a more realistic view than cynical. They are of pretty modest means.
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_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:56:53pm |
re: #465 rollwave87
I'm a moderate Republican, a Jewish Republican, and a gay Republican (among other things). In other words, I am not a conservative Republican. But I have supported Sarah Palin since before John McCain picked her last year (a decision I was praying he would make), and I will continue to ardently do so. Not to sound too self-important, but the fact that even someone such as myself is a Palin backer does more to refute the media stereotypes about her and her supporters than Rush Limbaugh or Glenn Beck ever could. I've disagreed with the Governor, especially when she came out in support of Miss 'Opposite Marriage' in California a few months ago, but I have no doubt that, while fallible, she is a figure of epic proportions re: the American experience.
I think she made the right decision last week. Anyone who thinks a mother and athlete like Sarah Palin is a quitter is an exceptionally poor judge of human character.
I'm gonna ding you up just for being a Gay, Jewish Republican.
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Last Mohican Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:56:58pm |
re: #498 VioletTiger
In other words, he's the biggest bullshit artist of all time?
Yeah, pretty much. It ain't the Medal of Honor or a Rhodes Scholarship, but it's still a rare distinction.
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redc1c4 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:57:02pm |
re: #462 Mad Al-Jaffee
The real stupid thing is why does everyone want to get out of jury duty? Every time I'm called to go in, I hope to serve. I want someone like me on the jury - someone who doesn't watch stupid crime/forensics tv shows and thinks he knows everything about crime, someone who reads and pays attention to politics and current events.
i only want you on the jury if i'm innocent. %-)
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MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:57:39pm |
So, blueherron, you disagree with my assessment that Barack Obama is a dangerous dumbass... care to offer a rebuttal?
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:57:50pm |
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hous bin pharteen Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:57:54pm |
re: #396 VioletTiger
Greedy, lazy, lawyers. At least she did not rape women (Bill) or hob nob with terrorists who blew up police stations or hated the Jews just like Adolph. And her kids are not being sponsered by J Crew!
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OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:58:03pm |
re: #485 Adrenalyn
so, does this mean you also handle loaded guns in a unsafe manner ?
/remind me to stay away from you AND Bob Barr at gun shows
/if I was ever inclined to go to one
Avoid DiFi while you're at it. That woman keeps her finger on the trigger at press conferences.
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Racer X Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:58:08pm |
re: #491 Charles
I'm going with #5
5. Show Me the Money
Between her husband's income and her own salary, Sarah Palin is by no means poor. But the Palins have had to spend more than $500,000 to deal with the 15 ethics complaints filed against Palin by various outside groups in the past eight months.Palin has been exonerated in all cases, but Alaskan law states that she has to use her own money to defend herself. More cases were expected, which could've become expensive with four kids (and a grandchild) still living at home.
Quitting frees up her time for speaking engagements; politicians of Palin's stature get as much as $50,000 a pop. "I don't think Sarah Palin is a politician. I don't think she wants to be a politician. I think she wants to be an inspirational leader," says representative Mike Doogan, an Anchorage Democrat.
"She has the opportunity to make a drop-dead amount of money in the next 18 months." Without resigning, she might have been looking at more than $1 million in legal fees over her remaining 16 months in office. Now she's looking at an unlimited, and very green, horizon.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:58:19pm |
I read one lefty blogger who suggested that she quit as governor so she would no longer be considered a "public figure" and would be better able to sue her media enemies. Heh.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:58:22pm |
re: #465 rollwave87
Well I'm not gay, but I'm with you about being a Jewish Republican and supporting Palin.
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sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:58:45pm |
re: #509 Last Mohican
Number five is pretty concerning. It says the Palins have had to spend more than $500,000 to defend themselves against 15 frivolous ethical complaints in the past eight months. She was exonerated in all cases, but Alaska law requires that she spend her own money in her defense.
Correct. So if she can go around the country at $10-$20 K a pop in speaking fees, it'll defray the cost of those a whole lot quicker than her $40K +/ - governors salery
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Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:59:03pm |
re: #469 SpaceJesus
not really, the dems could have run a fart in a jar and still won after bush
Bullshit. If the MSM had done its job, FCBBHO would not be in the WH.
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jcm Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:59:20pm |
re: #522 taxfreekiller
good, let us talk it over about Lt. for life John F. Kerry , candidate for President of the U.S.A. , still sitting, Democrat Senator being a no good
life long liar and fraudyour opinion once more, is he better than Obama or not up to the
misdirection ability of the teleprompter king Obama?
J F'n K.....
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SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:59:21pm |
re: #483 Dianna
Because he doesn't know - or care? - that Yiddish is High Middle German?
uh, yiddish is yiddish.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 12:59:47pm |
So What's new here. I've been busy. I think I may actually have access to LGF's at the Dental Clinic in Annapolis, but I got to be alittle careful.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:00:02pm |
re: #495 avanti
Nope, but some are more interested in a pissing contest then a discussion,
I'm not pissing anything in your direction, I am discussing that fact that you posted that poll, period.
Anytime you don't want to discuss a question put to you, you revert to complaining that someone is pissing, or challenging or arguing with you, anything you can say to scare someone away, anything but simply parrying and fencing with your opponent.
You make comment, then don't whine when someone wants you to back up your input.
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Creeping Eruption Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:00:31pm |
re: #462 Mad Al-Jaffee
The real stupid thing is why does everyone want to get out of jury duty? Every time I'm called to go in, I hope to serve. I want someone like me on the jury - someone who doesn't watch stupid crime/forensics tv shows and thinks he knows everything about crime, someone who reads and pays attention to politics and current events.
I'm with you. I got a within a hairs breath of serving on a murder case. I'm glad I was bumped during voir dire though. The case involved interrogating another drug dealer with hot chicken grease before his untimely death and subsequent burial under the patio. Apparently there were a number of pictures and witness testimony from some who were there.
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Adrenalyn Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:01:12pm |
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Achilles Tang Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:01:53pm |
re: #512 Walter L. Newton
Big deal. So now TIME is chiming in on the subject. I don't like Palin, but I certainly will give her the benefit of the doubt until SHE tells us why she quit, until SHE tells us what her future plans are.
Pundits seethe and rage all the time, and many times they are wrong.
I'll wait.
I don't dislike Palin, I just wouldn't vote for her, again.
However I do dislike this game of politics that we would all hate if it were played by a Democrat. She is not a private citizen. She is what she is because of people's support and votes and has an obligation to explain herself to them, if not to those who oppose her.
Just saying......
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debutaunt Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:02:02pm |
re: #448 Gang of One
Please. He is where he is for no other reason than Caucasian guilt.
Unearned guilt can be quite expensive.
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BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:02:13pm |
re: #499 Walter L. Newton
I don't know the history of what polls avanti has posted or not posted, but I didn't see him here do anything wrong. He posted a Rasmussen poll that is flawed in that it tracks only self-identified Republicans, as I pointed out, but if you're interested in knowing how Palin's move is being viewed by them only, this is a poll that would interest people.
He didn't try to misrepresent the poll as tracking all likely voters, which other media outlets are doing.
As I said, I think Rasmussen is worthless anyway for the reasons I gave, so I don't ever take them seriously in any case.
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:02:18pm |
re: #537 Adrenalyn
watch what you say
with a 60 seat majority in the Senate
my prediction has always been that Gates will be fired
and Kerry will replace him
that would be monumentally stupid...so he probably would
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Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:02:20pm |
re: #461 VioletTiger
And we still haven't seen anything he wrote in college. What the hell did he do? What was his thesis? Was it feces?
We may never know.
Actually, funny you should ask... despite the diligent work of a vast army of journalists investigating every detail of Obama's life during the actual election ...(NOT!) ...this essay did not materialize until now:
BREAKING THE WAR MENTALITY by Barack Obama
RTWFT!
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Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:02:22pm |
re: #491 Charles
I don't really care why she quit. I care that she quit, when her clear duty was to finish her term.
I'd have said nothing if she'd not run for re-election, and waited to see what she had to say for herself. By resigning, though, she has removed herself from the liet of suitors for my vote.
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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:02:24pm |
re: #528 Charles
I read one lefty blogger who suggested that she quit as governor so she would no longer be considered a "public figure" and would be better able to sue her media enemies. Heh.
The blogger obviously has a tenuous grasp on legal thinking.
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eschew_obfuscation Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:02:27pm |
re: #483 Dianna
Because he doesn't know - or care? - that Yiddish is High Middle German?
Why did I think it was an amalgam of German and Hebrew? (or maybe it was both?)
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apachegunner Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:02:36pm |
re: #524 MandyManners thanks mandy, an interesting read which i'll get to this evening.
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Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:02:38pm |
Two weeks ago it was the Urdu poets. This week it's Obama's love for Pushkin's poetry. The week before it was probably the Bhadavad-Gita in Sanskrit. If it's Tuesday this must be Zorba the Greek --- in Greek.
It's all in a day's light reading for our Obama. Whaddaguy! He lifts weights two hours a day and has pecs like Arnie. Then he spends the rest of the day reading Urdu, Russian, and classical Arabic. Then he runs the three-trillion dollar US economy down the tubes all by himself, takes over the banks, passes Health Care for All (and saves money in the bargain!) and has just enough time left to read his daughters to sleep. Urdu poems, natch. Gotta get those kids started early.
Wow!
We have an intellectual fraud in the White House. How do I know? Because poetry doesn't translate. Ever try translating Shakespeare into American English? Or ebonics? Ever try translating "You ain't nuthin' but a hound dog" into the Queen's English?
This is not news. The Italians have a proverb, "Traditore, Traduttore!" --- translator, traitor. It probably sounds better in Italian, but then I don't speak Italian. Or Urdu. Or Russian. I don't actually speak a distressing number of the world's languages. I'll bet you don't, either.
But I'll get to it any day now. Promise.
What's different about Our Zero is that:
(a) he even bothers to boast in public about his love for Pushkin and the Urdu poets; and
(b) he expects millions of suckers to believe it.
snip
One of the biggest liberal delusions is that intellectuals make good presidents. Woodrow Wilson was the last one, and he died in office after the US Senate turned down the League of Nations. Wilson was also an "idealist" who wanted to fix the world, right along with Georges Clemenceau, known to his enemies as "the Fox." [Link: en.wikipedia.org...] The Germans and French have fond memories of Woodrow Wilson at Versailles, because he brought Lasting Peace to Europe in 1919. The Versailles Treaty made the Germans pay through the nose, and boy, did that ever work like a charm.
Woodrow Wilson was our most highly educated, highly intellectual president. Until the polyglot we now have in the White House. He had a real PhD, was president of Princeton and a Progressive. He was a great idealist. He was also a segregationist Democrat, but then what's a little racism between idealists?
Much better to have a vulgarian like LBJ in the White House. Lyndon Johnson chatted about himself to his young female biographer while sitting on the Throne. For hours. He showed his surgical scar to the world's photographers. He lifted his beagle by the ears for the delectation of the American public. But he wasn't a fraud. He was a lot of things, but he didn't pretend to be something he wasn't.
Well, maybe it's just Obama's little human foible. I mean, who's perfect? Such a good guy, basically? Nope. This is Obama's modus vivendi (to fake some Latin), part of the self-deluded fantasy life of a man with a fragile ego, and his finger hovering over the nuclear button.
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avanti Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:02:49pm |
re: #459 iceweasel
I'm a bit of a poll geek myself, and I've learned to disregard all Rassmussen polls. They've become increasingly worthless.
Nate Silver is the best guy around, in my opinion, because he'll offer extensive deconstruction/analysis of polls. He knows what he's doing.
BTW, Nate is playing in a world series of poker event this week, using his statistical talents. So far, he's 441st out of 6500.
BTW, Barney Frank is there too ,supporting online gambling.
Frank
| 549 |
kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:02:52pm |
I swear there are some paid Democrat operatives here.
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hans ze beeman Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:03:22pm |
re: #533 SpaceJesus
Yiddish is said to be 72 percent German, 18 percent Hebrew, 16 percent Slavic languages, 5.60 percent Romance languages, and 3.55 percent English.
I don't speak Yiddish but could easily understand this:
YOME, YOME ZING MIR A LIDELE,
VOS DOS MEYDELE VIL;
DOS MEYDELE VIL A POR SHIKHELEKH
HOBN,
MUZ MEN GEYN DEM SHUSTER ZOGN!
NEYN, MAMESHI, NEYN!
DU KENST MIKH NISHT FARSHTEYN,
DU VEYST NISHT, VOS IKH MEYN!
| 552 |
Clubsec Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:03:33pm |
I don't have enough real information to make a knowledgeble selection.
I'll wait for the book. I suspect she is going to take her star dust and use it to build her exchequer.
I do know one thing ... if I can believe what the FMSM is all atwitter about. Someone named Michael Jackson is dead. You'd think he was going to get three days under the Capital Rotunda with all the bruhaha.
| 554 |
Creeping Eruption Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:03:36pm |
re: #549 kansas
I swear there are some paid Democrat operatives here.
Why, because some don't like Palin?
| 555 |
kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:03:56pm |
re: #543 Dianna
I don't really care why she quit. I care that she quit, when her clear duty was to finish her term.
I'd have said nothing if she'd not run for re-election, and waited to see what she had to say for herself. By resigning, though, she has removed herself from the liet of suitors for my vote.
Obama didn't finish his term. Bill Clinton didn't finish his, but then they aren't held to the Alinksy rules.
| 556 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:03:57pm |
| 557 |
jcm Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:04:05pm |
re: #537 Adrenalyn
watch what you say
with a 60 seat majority in the Senate
my prediction has always been that Gates will be fired
and Kerry will replace him
[deleted]
Curse you for saying it out loud! /;-)
A SecDef with a secret DD-214, who violated his oath as an officer.....
*SPIT* *SPIT* *SPIT* *SPIT* *SPIT*
| 559 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:04:14pm |
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subsailor68 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:04:17pm |
re: #536 Creeping Eruption
I'm with you. I got a within a hairs breath of serving on a murder case. I'm glad I was bumped during voir dire though. The case involved interrogating another drug dealer with hot chicken grease before his untimely death and subsequent burial under the patio. Apparently there were a number of pictures and witness testimony from some who were there.
I also wanted to serve on a jury, and also came pretty close. The defense attorney in the case asked my my views on the justice system:
"I'm totally in favor of the death penalty, and would have absolutely no problem applying it."
"Uh, you do realize this case is a contested traffic violation, right?"
"So?"
For some reason I was released.
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Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:04:29pm |
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LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:04:33pm |
re: #509 Last Mohican
Number five is pretty concerning. It says the Palins have had to spend more than $500,000 to defend themselves against 15 frivolous ethical complaints in the past eight months. She was exonerated in all cases, but Alaska law requires that she spend her own money in her defense.
That is a crazy law. Why does the frivolous party not pay a penalty?
It means that someone can be destroyed by a barrage of frivolous suits. And I wouldn't put it past the left to use this as an intentional tactic.
| 563 |
OldLineTexan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:04:43pm |
| 564 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:04:44pm |
re: #546 apachegunner
thanks mandy, an interesting read which i'll get to this evening.
Make sure you have some cheese to go with her monumental whine.
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Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:04:46pm |
re: #554 Creeping Eruption
Why, because some don't like Palin?
Because the same people spit out the same democratic talking points all the time
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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:04:52pm |
who will play Palin in the movie?...Johnny Depp would be a great Todd
| 567 |
Racer X Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:04:53pm |
re: #549 kansas
I swear there are some paid Democrat operatives here.
I've asked directly if a poster was on the Dem payroll. The response was "no".
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kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:05:01pm |
re: #528 Charles
I read one lefty blogger who suggested that she quit as governor so she would no longer be a public citizen and would be better able to sue her media enemies. Heh.
Personally I hope she goes balls to the wall with lawsuits. Let em see how they like it. Shallow, I know.
| 569 |
avanti Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:05:18pm |
re: #535 Walter L. Newton
I'm not pissing anything in your direction, I am discussing that fact that you posted that poll, period.
Anytime you don't want to discuss a question put to you, you revert to complaining that someone is pissing, or challenging or arguing with you, anything you can say to scare someone away, anything but simply parrying and fencing with your opponent.
Walter, again we were talking Palin polls, that was the first one out, I posted it, big friggin deal.
You make comment, then don't whine when someone wants you to back up your input.
| 570 |
WinterCat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:05:25pm |
re: #538 Naso Tang
I don't dislike Palin, I just wouldn't vote for her, again.
However I do dislike this game of politics that we would all hate if it were played by a Democrat. She is not a private citizen. She is what she is because of people's support and votes and has an obligation to explain herself to them, if not to those who oppose her.
Just saying......
She has explained her reasons. It has been all over the news. She can't keep fighting the ethics charges and run the gov't plus the costs to the state and to her personally are astronomical and the people who file the charges are doing it at no cost to themselves. It is an unworkable situation for her as a politician and as a person. I think her reasons are sound.
| 571 |
Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:05:35pm |
re: #566 albusteve
who will play Palin in the movie?...Johnny Depp would be a great Todd
Except if i am not wrong Depp is a left wing loon?
| 572 |
kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:05:40pm |
re: #567 Racer X
I've asked directly if a poster was on the Dem payroll. The response was "no".
Democrats lie too, so that kinda let's that out.
| 573 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:05:49pm |
| 574 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:05:58pm |
re: #543 Dianna
I care that she quit, when her clear duty was to finish her term.
I can't entirely agree, although I understand the sentiment. Personal circumstances change. Lets say one of her children (God forbid) was diagnosed with a disease that gave that child one year to live. She shoud stay at the job (16 hour days, 7 days a week) instaed of spending those last fews days with her child?
| 576 |
rollwave87 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:06:01pm |
re: #517 _RememberTonyC
I'm gonna ding you up just for being a Gay, Jewish Republican.
haha. yeah. not the easiest thing in the world sometimes. but I don't mind having to do a little extra explaining, as long as I get to be who I really am and articulate the things that I really believe in.
| 577 |
Creeping Eruption Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:06:02pm |
re: #568 kansas
Personally I hope she goes balls to the wall with lawsuits. Let em see how they like it. Shallow, I know.
Just what the Republicans need. Someone filing frivolous suits.
| 578 |
Rancher Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:06:15pm |
Why does anyone care about Sarah? She quit and her political aspirations are dead. She's just a crazy dumb Barbie doll redneck. Yet her detractors still seem to be afraid of her. Hmmm...
| 579 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:06:29pm |
re: #555 kansas
Obama didn't finish his term. Bill Clinton didn't finish his, but then they aren't held to the Alinksy rules.
I do not disagree. Since I didn't vote for Obama - though I voted for Clinton because I was furious with Bush 41 and would rather have a ground-glass keyboard than vote for Ross Perot - may I be forgiven for having a strong opinion on the subject?
| 580 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:06:45pm |
re: #542 Kenneth
Actually, funny you should ask... despite the diligent work of a vast army of journalists investigating every detail of Obama's life during the actual election ...(NOT!) ...this essay did not materialize until now:
BREAKING THE WAR MENTALITY by Barack Obama
RTWFT!
That essay turned up in January, in a conservative outlet (WND, maybe?) and Jack Cashill (author of the deranged claim that Ayers wrote Obama's books) wrote an essay on it somewhere else too. American Thinker, maybe?
I think this is the first time it made it into the MSM but I'm not sure.
| 581 |
kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:06:57pm |
re: #577 Creeping Eruption
Just what the Republicans need. Someone filing frivolous suits.
Did I say frivolous? Besides, it works for Democrats.
| 582 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:07:00pm |
I hope spacefreak brought a box to put his ass in when it was handed to him by the Lizards.
| 584 |
Sharmuta Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:07:16pm |
re: #549 kansas
I swear there are some paid Democrat operatives here.
Can't a person think for themselves without getting called a name?
| 585 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:07:28pm |
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avanti Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:07:45pm |
re: #573 _RememberTonyC
the players better watch their chips ... barney will be looking for his cut.
Why do you think Barney wants internet gaming. Can you say gambling income tax ?
| 588 |
Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:07:46pm |
re: #533 SpaceJesus
uh, yiddish is yiddish.
Yiddish is an admixture of Hebrew, Polish, Russian, German.
Get an education.
| 589 |
jcm Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:07:53pm |
re: #578 Rancher
Why does anyone care about Sarah? She quit and her political aspirations are dead. She's just a crazy dumb Barbie doll redneck. Yet her detractors still seem to be afraid of her. Hmmm...
Chuck Norris is afraid of her.
| 590 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:07:54pm |
re: #566 albusteve
who will play Palin in the movie?...Johnny Depp would be a great Todd
Anyone but Tina Fey.
| 591 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:08:04pm |
re: #561 Dianna
Oh, dear. Oh, dearie, dearie me!
Go look it up!
yiddish is yiddish. middle high german is a big umbrella. look it up.
| 592 |
kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:08:07pm |
re: #584 Sharmuta
Can't a person think for themselves without getting called a name?
Democrat is name calling? Hmm.
| 593 |
ointmentfly Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:08:09pm |
re: #584 Sharmuta
Can't a person think for themselves without getting called a name?
Whatever Rahm....
| 594 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:08:14pm |
re: #545 eschew_obfuscation
Why did I think it was an amalgam of German and Hebrew? (or maybe it was both?)
As I understand it, from linguistics courses, Yiddish is by grammar and majority vocabulary German (High Middle), with lots of loan words.
| 595 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:08:29pm |
re: #576 rollwave87
haha. yeah. not the easiest thing in the world sometimes. but I don't mind having to do a little extra explaining, as long as I get to be who I really am and articulate the things that I really believe in.
good for you. does "rollwave" refer to Tulane?
| 597 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:09:02pm |
re: #588 Gang of One
Yiddish is an admixture of Hebrew, Polish, Russian, German.
Get an education.
false. there are different branches of yiddish, you paint with too broad a brush. get an education.
| 598 |
avanti Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:09:27pm |
re: #580 iceweasel
That essay turned up in January, in a conservative outlet (WND, maybe?) and Jack Cashill (author of the deranged claim that Ayers wrote Obama's books) wrote an essay on it somewhere else too. American Thinker, maybe?
I think this is the first time it made it into the MSM but I'm not sure.
Oddly, there is nothing off the wall in the essay, so I don't see any point.
| 599 |
kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:09:39pm |
| 600 |
redc1c4 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:09:45pm |
there is something wrong with the polls, because you can only vote once....
what's up with that?
| 601 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:09:48pm |
| 602 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:10:03pm |
re: #574 sattv4u2
I care that she quit, when her clear duty was to finish her term.
I can't entirely agree, although I understand the sentiment. Personal circumstances change. Lets say one of her children (God forbid) was diagnosed with a disease that gave that child one year to live. She shoud stay at the job (16 hour days, 7 days a week) instaed of spending those last fews days with her child?
That, however, is not the circumstance.
Further, a man would be expected to retain his office, even if his child died.
Given, however, that her circumstances are not a dying child, she has no business abandoning her post.
| 603 |
Racer X Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:10:18pm |
re: #600 redc1c4
there is something wrong with the polls, because you can only vote once....
what's up with that?
I'll call ACORN and see what they can do about that.
| 604 |
debutaunt Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:10:25pm |
re: #495 avanti
Nope, but some are more interested in a pissing contest then a discussion,
Dow 8164.
| 605 |
lawhawk Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:10:27pm |
re: #566 albusteve
Depp has already done Todd. Sweeney Todd that is.
| 606 |
kansas Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:10:33pm |
| 607 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:10:35pm |
re: #597 SpaceJesus
false. there are different branches of yiddish, you paint with too broad a brush. get an education.
Nisht richtig. Du vayst gor nisht vos is mama loshen. Gey lernt zich iber.
| 608 |
redc1c4 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:10:49pm |
re: #598 avanti
Oddly, there is nothing off the wall in the essay, so I don't see any point.
you wouldn't, but that's a different point.
| 610 |
Last Mohican Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:10:55pm |
re: #530 sattv4u2
Correct. So if she can go around the country at $10-$20 K a pop in speaking fees, it'll defray the cost of those a whole lot quicker than her $40K +/ - governors salery
She could have done it more easily than that. If she wants to set up a legal defense fund, I'll send her a small contribution.
| 611 |
WinterCat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:11:02pm |
re: #542 Kenneth
Actually, funny you should ask... despite the diligent work of a vast army of journalists investigating every detail of Obama's life during the actual election ...(NOT!) ...this essay did not materialize until now:
BREAKING THE WAR MENTALITY by Barack Obama
RTWFT!
Most people my age remember
well the air-raid drills in school, under
the desk with our heads tucked between
our legs.
This is close to what he said in Russia just the other day but I could have sworn he actually said Most people my age DON'T remember...
| 612 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:11:13pm |
re: #571 Nevergiveup
Except if i am not wrong Depp is a left wing loon?
don't know...it'd be a good bet tho
| 613 |
subsailor68 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:11:36pm |
re: #566 albusteve
who will play Palin in the movie?...Johnny Depp would be a great Todd
Hmm...how about Meryl Streep? She was great in that ABBA flick "Mamma Mia". She won't even have to learn a new song to play Sarah:
If you change your mind, I'm the first in line
Honey I'm still free
Take a chance on me
If you need me, let me know, gonna be around
If you've got no place to go, if you're feeling down
If you're all alone when the pretty birds have flown
Honey I'm still free
Take a chance on me
Gonna do my very best and it ain't no lie
If you put me to the test, if you let me try
Take a chance on me
(That's all I ask of you honey)
Take a chance on me
| 614 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:11:58pm |
I can't stick around, but I just couldn't resist this one:
#312 spacejesus:
too bad mensch comes from german, and it actually just means person, or alternatively, a humanitarian.
All that fancy study abroad... and this is the best you can do? Since Yiddish derives (in part) from German, therefore a certain Yiddish word "just means" the equivalent German word? Huh?
By your own logic: Since the Spanish word machete derives from the English word Manchester... therefore, the Spanish word machete "just means" an industrial city in England. QED!
| 615 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:11:58pm |
Happened to notice on Shreiks site:
"THE COMING SECOND AMERICAN REVOLUTION"
What's next? "YAAY IT'S CIVIL WAR!"
What a moron.
| 617 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:12:15pm |
re: #597 SpaceJesus
false. there are different branches of yiddish, you paint with too broad a brush. get an education.
Learn how to use the "Shift" key.
| 618 |
rollwave87 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:12:15pm |
| 619 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:12:18pm |
re: #602 Dianna
That, however, is not the circumstance.
Further, a man would be expected to retain his office, even if his child died.Given, however, that her circumstances are not a dying child, she has no business abandoning her post.
The "circumstance" is that she (and her family) are in the hole to the tune of 6 figures. Waiting 18 months would most likely DOUBLE that figure. Her (and anyones) 1st responsibility is their FAMILY, NOT their job, not their neighbors and not the citizens of a state
| 620 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:12:30pm |
re: #587 avanti
Why do you think Barney wants internet gaming. Can you say gambling income tax ?
"gambling income" refers to money that very few people generate. and the owners of the gambling websites, which probably do generate income are way too smart to base their operations in the US when they can cash in with much lower taxes offshore. maybe barney just wants to hang out with a bunch of male degenerates.
| 621 |
Last Mohican Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:12:39pm |
re: #562 LGoPs
That is a crazy law. Why does the frivolous party not pay a penalty?
It means that someone can be destroyed by a barrage of frivolous suits. And I wouldn't put it past the left to use this as an intentional tactic.
No, especially as they just did it. Successfully.
| 622 |
MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:12:47pm |
re: #607 Alouette
Nisht richtig. Du vayst gor nisht vos is mama loshen. Gey lernt zich iber.
Dangit, I only know one language, I can't read that!
/actually 2, can stumble through 3.
| 624 |
Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:13:03pm |
re: #597 SpaceJesus
false. there are different branches of yiddish, you paint with too broad a brush. get an education.
You're funny.
| 625 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:13:18pm |
re: #607 Alouette
Nisht richtig. Du vayst gor nisht vos is mama loshen. Gey lernt zich iber.
Translate, please?
| 626 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:13:20pm |
re: #605 lawhawk
Depp has already done Todd. Sweeney Todd that is.
And what a stupid mess that movie was. Ruined a really masterful piece of American Musical Theatre.
| 627 |
unrealizedviewpoint Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:13:21pm |
re: #567 Racer X
I've asked directly if a poster was on the Dem payroll. The response was "no".
dems don't lie.
| 628 |
KenJen Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:13:24pm |
re: #598 avanti
Oddly, there is nothing off the wall in the essay, so I don't see any point.
Can you please stop talking about MJ?
/
| 629 |
Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:13:26pm |
"The future does not belong to those who gather armies on a field of battle or bury missiles in the ground."--Obama?
[Link: www.time.com...]
Yeah, maybe not, but we'll last alot longer than those who don't. Read a G-D Dam history book Obama for all our sakes!
| 630 |
Sharmuta Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:13:35pm |
re: #599 kansas
Certainly they wouldn't say some that stuff for free?
Certainly anything is possible.
| 631 |
avanti Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:13:43pm |
re: #604 debutaunt
Dow 8164.
Yep, lost a few percent this week due to the worse then expected job numbers.
| 632 |
redc1c4 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:13:48pm |
re: #620 _RememberTonyC
"gambling income" refers to money that very few people generate. and the owners of the gambling websites, which probably do generate income are way too smart to base their operations in the US when they can cash in with much lower taxes offshore. maybe barney just wants to hang out with a bunch of male degenerates.
i thought that was why he was a Senator?
| 633 |
Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:14:18pm |
re: #616 Ojoe
To hell with both major political parties.
Yeah but with one party it's on the local and the other on the Express?
| 634 |
MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:14:28pm |
re: #626 Walter L. Newton
And what a stupid mess that movie was. Ruined a really masterful piece of American Musical Theatre.
Having been in the chorus of that show (as well as being one of the victims in the chair), I couldn't agree more.
| 635 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:14:57pm |
re: #580 iceweasel
It's a tedious read that's for sure. No gotcha-sekret-mulsim quotes from the young Obama, but what it does tell us is that he was closely involved with the campus anti-war organizations of the day, particularly the anti-nuke groups. After the collapse of the USSR, it was discovered just how thoroughly the KGB had penetrated these Western "peace groups". This is not to say Obama was on the Kremlin payroll, but the leaders of these groups, did indeed get funds and other help from the KGB.
That at least should be food for thought.
| 636 |
Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:15:06pm |
Billionaire praises Hitler, apologizes, then blames Jews for financial crisis....
Just days after praising Hitler, now Bernie Ecclestone 'blames Jews for banking crisis'
| 637 |
redc1c4 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:15:23pm |
re: #631 avanti
Yep, lost a few percent this week due to the worse then expected job numbers.
good thing your president 'saved' all those j*bs, eh?
| 638 |
Beach Lover Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:15:40pm |
I'm gonna jump in here with a thought that probably isnt very popular, but just maybe....she would like to have some big money that she earns on her own merit, not from promises to some lobbying group. She knows what she believes in her heart, she wont have to read it on a teleprompter. I hope she uses ever opportunity to bash Obama, cause ya just know the media will cover it....hoping to reflect badly on her.
| 639 |
pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:15:46pm |
re: #611 WinterCat
If Obambi is under 50 yrs old, I doubt he had any air raid drills. I remember them in the mid 60s and that was all. When I got older I realized how dumb they were. The school was 10 miles from an electrical dam that supplied the power to an ALCOA factory. And, waaay back then Us and the Rooskies had enough nukes to target everything with any potential for warmaking.
| 640 |
hans ze beeman Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:16:00pm |
re: #636 Killgore Trout
Billionaire praises Hitler, apologizes, then blames Jews for financial crisis....
Just days after praising Hitler, now Bernie Ecclestone 'blames Jews for banking crisis'
...and not to forget formula 1 president Mosley, who enjoyed being whipped by gals in Nazi attire.
Old British men turn odd.
| 641 |
Ben Hur Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:16:16pm |
A koala was sitting in a gum tree smoking a joint .
when a little lizard walked past, looked up and said, 'Hey Koala! What are you doing?'
The koala said, 'Smoking a joint, come up and have some.'
So the little lizard climbed up and sat next to the koala where they enjoyed a few joints. After a while the little lizard said that his mouth was 'dry' and that he was going to get a drink from the river.
The little lizard was so stoned that he leaned over too far and fell into the river. A crocodile saw this and swam over to the little lizard and helped him to the side. Then he asked the little lizard, 'What's the matter with you?'
The little lizard explained to the crocodile that he had been sitting with the koala in the tree, smoking a joint, but got too stoned and fell into the river while taking a drink..
The crocodile said that he had to check this out and walked into the rain forest, found the tree where the koala was sitting finishing a joint. The crocodile looked up and said, 'Hey you!'
So the koala looked down at him and said,
'Shiiiiiiiiiiit dude... How much water did you drink?'
| 642 |
Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:16:23pm |
re: #636 Killgore Trout
Billionaire praises Hitler, apologizes, then blames Jews for financial crisis....
Just days after praising Hitler, now Bernie Ecclestone 'blames Jews for banking crisis'
Someone sane should take the shovel away from this moron.
| 643 |
subsailor68 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:16:32pm |
re: #626 Walter L. Newton
And what a stupid mess that movie was. Ruined a really masterful piece of American Musical Theatre.
Hi Walter! Yeah, sigh, I'm with you on that one. The only one who made me sit up and take notice was the young man (Edward Sanders?) who played the boy Toby. The rest? Nope.
| 644 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:16:48pm |
re: #625 MandyManners
Translate, please?
What I said to spaceyoizel:
Incorrect. You have no idea what Yiddish is. Get an education.
| 645 |
avanti Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:16:49pm |
re: #620 _RememberTonyC
"gambling income" refers to money that very few people generate. and the owners of the gambling websites, which probably do generate income are way too smart to base their operations in the US when they can cash in with much lower taxes offshore. maybe barney just wants to hang out with a bunch of male degenerates.
Actually, it's the American casino's that want a new law. I would never gamble online with some company in a warehouse on some off shore island. But I would with the casino I visit based in the USA.
| 646 |
lawhawk Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:16:56pm |
T Boone Pickens full of hot air as he scraps wind farm plans.
Reasons he's dropping his plans? Lower natural gas prices, inability to get transmission lines built, regulatory hurdles, and lack of financing.
Hmmm... wasn't the porkfest and TARP supposed to help with all that? Funny how things really work (which is to say that they don't).
| 647 |
Danny Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:16:59pm |
CNN Breaking News...
"-- At memorial service in L.A., Michael Jackson's daughter Paris says he was "the best father you could ever imagine."
Glad I subscribe to CNN breaking news....
///////////////////////////////////////////
| 648 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:17:42pm |
re: #607 Alouette
Nisht richtig. Du vayst gor nisht vos is mama loshen. Gey lernt zich iber.
nein, 'bin ganz richtig. yiddisch hat viele verschiedene dialekten
| 649 |
MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:17:49pm |
re: #641 Ben Hur
I would upding that, but I've seen that joke here before. In fact, I stole it and sent it to many of my friends. :)
| 650 |
redc1c4 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:17:56pm |
re: #639 pingjockey
If Obambi is under 50 yrs old, I doubt he had any air raid drills. I remember them in the mid 60s and that was all. When I got older I realized how dumb they were. The school was 10 miles from an electrical dam that supplied the power to an ALCOA factory. And, waaay back then Us and the Rooskies had enough nukes to target everything with any potential for warmaking.
as dumb as the "ass to the blast" drill we learned at Benning, in case of a tactical nuke?
| 651 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:17:57pm |
re: #635 Kenneth
It's a tedious read that's for sure. No gotcha-sekret-mulsim quotes from the young Obama, but what it does tell us is that he was closely involved with the campus anti-war organizations of the day, particularly the anti-nuke groups. After the collapse of the USSR, it was discovered just how thoroughly the KGB had penetrated these Western "peace groups". This is not to say Obama was on the Kremlin payroll, but the leaders of these groups, did indeed get funds and other help from the KGB.
That at least should be food for thought.
Of course, I certainly wouldn't want to have to defend every bit of soft-headed fluff I wrote in college, either. But the funny thing is, this particular piece of sophomoric twaddle was played up in the recent New York Times piece on the subject as something profound. Well, what else do we expect.
| 652 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:18:24pm |
re: #623 buzzsawmonkey
Obama reads only "important" authors, poets and philosophers. He appreciated their lofty conceits.
| 653 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:18:27pm |
re: #648 SpaceJesus
nein, 'bin ganz richtig. yiddisch hat viele verschiedene dialekten
Git mir etliche beishpiln.
| 655 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:18:30pm |
re: #619 sattv4u2
The "circumstance" is that she (and her family) are in the hole to the tune of 6 figures. Waiting 18 months would most likely DOUBLE that figure. Her (and anyones) 1st responsibility is their FAMILY, NOT their job, not their neighbors and not the citizens of a state
Oh, satt, I cannot agree. When one takes up a public duty, you can't lay it down whenever you damn well please! Your ruin may indeed follow, but when you seek office, that is a risk you run.
If you feel your family is more important than your duty, you should never seek out a public responsibility.
| 656 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:18:44pm |
re: #547 Ben Hur
Look, I cannot take the so-called American Thinker seriously. They publish Jack Cashill and Atlas Shrieks, for gods sakes. And THIS is their big complaint about Obama?
Two weeks ago it was the Urdu poets. This week it's Obama's love for Pushkin's poetry. The week before it was probably the Bhadavad-Gita in Sanskrit. If it's Tuesday this must be Zorba the Greek --- in Greek.
It's all in a day's light reading for our Obama. Whaddaguy!
Wow!
We have an intellectual fraud in the White House. How do I know? Because poetry doesn't translate. Ever try translating Shakespeare into American English?
This is not news. The Italians have a proverb, "Traditore, Traduttore!" --- translator, traitor. It probably sounds better in Italian, but then I don't speak Italian. Or Urdu. Or Russian. I don't actually speak a distressing number of the world's languages. I'll bet you don't, either.But I'll get to it any day now. Promise.
What's different about Our Zero is that:
(a) he even bothers to boast in public about his love for Pushkin and the Urdu poets; and
(b) he expects millions of suckers to believe it.
He's an 'intellectual fraud' because he reads poetry in translation?
If this guy had his way presumably we should dismiss everyone who ever read Shakespeare, the Illiad, Beowulf, Dante, the Canterbury Tales, Pablo Neruda, and god knows what else in college as just a 'fraud', unless they also majored in old English, middle English, Attic Greek, Italian, etc. My guess is that would be most of us here.
Look, there are many good criticisms to make about Obama. This kind of crazy rant is on a level with nirtherism. And it fosters the kind of anti-intellectualism that so many are (incorrectly) coming to associate with the GOP and conservatism more generally.
| 657 |
avanti Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:18:52pm |
re: #637 redc1c4
good thing your president 'saved' all those j*bs, eh?
If the numbers don't start improving by fall, he's got a problem.
| 658 |
Killian Bundy Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:18:59pm |
re: #631 avanti
Yep, lost a few percent this week due to the worse then expected job numbers.
Yeah because yamering on about an insane second stimulus couldn't possibly have anything to do with tanking the markets yesterday and today. The jobs number was last week, remember?
/I swear these yahoos stay up late at night thinking of new and innovative ways to declare jihad on the economy
| 659 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:19:31pm |
re: #644 Alouette
What I said to spaceyoizel:
Incorrect. You have no idea what Yiddish is. Get an education.
yeah, too bad there are yiddish dialects which don't use slavic words at all.
and middle high german is no more yiddish than modern english is spanglesh
| 660 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:19:39pm |
re: #639 pingjockey
If Obambi is under 50 yrs old, I doubt he had any air raid drills. I remember them in the mid 60s and that was all. When I got older I realized how dumb they were. The school was 10 miles from an electrical dam that supplied the power to an ALCOA factory. And, waaay back then Us and the Rooskies had enough nukes to target everything with any potential for warmaking.
That's what I was thinking. I barely remember hearing about them and I'm 55.
| 661 |
Ojoe Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:19:49pm |
re: #633 Nevergiveup
Either will take us to the same place, it is folly to stay on board either.
| 662 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:19:50pm |
re: #645 avanti
Actually, it's the American casino's that want a new law. I would never gamble online with some company in a warehouse on some off shore island. But I would with the casino I visit based in the USA.
I enjoy casino gambling, but would never gamble online, even with a US based casino. Sitting at the computer gambling strikes me as something that is completely anti-social. But I guess there are plenty of anti-social types out there that are dying to give their money away. I don't get it at all.
| 665 |
subsailor68 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:20:16pm |
re: #646 lawhawk
T Boone Pickens full of hot air as he scraps wind farm plans.
Reasons he's dropping his plans? Lower natural gas prices, inability to get transmission lines built, regulatory hurdles, and lack of financing.
Hmmm... wasn't the porkfest and TARP supposed to help with all that? Funny how things really work (which is to say that they don't).
Ha! The other shoe drops. There are a number of articles (could find a link if I need to) that indicated ol' T. Boone never cared much about the wind farms in the first place. It was all about water rights - and a plan to provide water to the metro areas up in north Texas.
| 666 |
pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:20:18pm |
re: #650 redc1c4
Yep. You figure back in the bad 'ol days the USSR had a mirv on every hydropower plant on the Columbia river, plus a handful to zap Hanford where they used to make plutonium. It was just silly. Still is.
| 667 |
WinterCat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:20:20pm |
re: #639 pingjockey
If Obambi is under 50 yrs old, I doubt he had any air raid drills. I remember them in the mid 60s and that was all. When I got older I realized how dumb they were. The school was 10 miles from an electrical dam that supplied the power to an ALCOA factory. And, waaay back then Us and the Rooskies had enough nukes to target everything with any potential for warmaking.
That is exactly right. And Obama is under 50 years old. So how is it that he is saying in the article that, "Most people my age remember well the air-raid drills..." Unless he didn't write the article, of course...
Just sayin'
| 668 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:20:35pm |
| 669 |
lawhawk Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:20:57pm |
re: #487 iceweasel
Senior Lecturer, and at UChi they are called professors, although they technically are not. UChi released a statement to this effect. It's not accurate to call him an adjunct, as though that were equivalent to what adjunct means elsewhere in academia.
He was offered fulltime status more than once, IIRC.
From the UChi website:
From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.
He was both a lecturer - an adjunct position, and a senior lecturer, which UChi considers a professor, but which doesn't confer the same status as a full time/tenure track position. The distinctions are important.
| 670 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:21:06pm |
re: #653 Alouette
Git mir etliche beishpiln.
nein danke, du kannst mich mal... und deine yiddisch-buchstabiern sieht schwul und bloedsinn aus
| 671 |
redc1c4 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:21:24pm |
re: #657 avanti
If the numbers don't start improving by fall, he's got a problem.
then he's got a problem...... 'cause everything he wants to do is going to cost more j*bs.
your president is a moron, and so is anyone who was st00pid enough to vote for him.
| 672 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:21:25pm |
re: #647 Danny
CNN Breaking News...
"-- At memorial service in L.A., Michael Jackson's daughter Paris says he was "the best father you could ever imagine."
Glad I subscribe to CNN breaking news....
///////////////////////////////////////////
Seeing as how she's spent most of her childhood under a dang scarf, I doubt she's seen many fathers she could compare him to.
| 673 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:21:27pm |
re: #646 lawhawk
T Boone Pickens full of hot air as he scraps wind farm plans.
Reasons he's dropping his plans? Lower natural gas prices, inability to get transmission lines built, regulatory hurdles, and lack of financing.
Hmmm... wasn't the porkfest and TARP supposed to help with all that? Funny how things really work (which is to say that they don't).
transmission line crossed alot of private property...I think he was in for a whale of a fight there...I might be wrong
| 674 |
Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:21:29pm |
re: #646 lawhawk
T Boone Pickens full of hot air as he scraps wind farm plans.
Reasons he's dropping his plans? Lower natural gas prices, inability to get transmission lines built, regulatory hurdles, and lack of financing.
Hmmm... wasn't the porkfest and TARP supposed to help with all that? Funny how things really work (which is to say that they don't).
Don't forget kneecap & trade....
| 675 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:21:31pm |
re: #656 iceweasel
everyone who ever read Shakespeare, the Illiad, Beowulf, Dante, the Canterbury Tales, Pablo Neruda, and god knows what else in college as just a 'fraud', unless they also majored in old English, middle English, Attic Greek, Italian, etc.
A quibble; Shakespeare should not be on the list. One needs no specific language study (outside of modern English) to understand Shakespeare in the original Elizabethan English.
(Of course, he's even better in the original Klingon, but you knew that.)
| 676 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:21:50pm |
re: #648 SpaceJesus
nein, 'bin ganz richtig. yiddisch hat viele verschiedene dialekten
You jerk, you didn't even answer in Yiddish, you answered in German, which you ran through Babelfish.
Jerk.
| 677 |
hans ze beeman Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:22:02pm |
re: #670 SpaceJesus
You're rude and ignorant, apparently. Back up your statements with facts, dude.
| 678 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:22:17pm |
re: #659 SpaceJesus
yeah, too bad there are yiddish dialects which don't use slavic words at all.
and middle high german is no more yiddish than modern english is spanglesh
Palestinian Yiddish uses Arabic words. American Yiddish uses a lot of English. Yet, somehow, a Yiddish-speaking Jew from Moscow is able to communicate with a Yiddish-speaking Jew from Boro Park.
"Accents" are not the same as "dialects" chuchem.
| 679 |
redc1c4 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:22:27pm |
re: #660 redstateredneck
That's what I was thinking. I barely remember hearing about them and I'm 55.
we had them when i was in grade school, but we also used the same drill for earthquakes....... i also remember the monthly siren testing.
/getting old
| 680 |
LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:22:46pm |
re: #646 lawhawk
T Boone Pickens full of hot air as he scraps wind farm plans.
Reasons he's dropping his plans? Lower natural gas prices, inability to get transmission lines built, regulatory hurdles, and lack of financing.
Hmmm... wasn't the porkfest and TARP supposed to help with all that? Funny how things really work (which is to say that they don't).
I also thought that this type of technology was ready and available to take over the country's energy needs. At least that's what I thought Obama was saying during the campaign last summer when gas was $4 a gallon and he said that drilling for our own oil wouldn't provide any relief for 10 years..........
Everything that man says is bullshit. If we could harness that we would be energy independent.
| 681 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:22:48pm |
re: #653 Alouette
Git mir etliche beishpiln.
god learn how to spell beispiel. speaking yiddish is one thing, spelling words that are pure german like that looks ridiculous.
| 682 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:22:53pm |
re: #639 pingjockey
If Obambi is under 50 yrs old, I doubt he had any air raid drills. I remember them in the mid 60s and that was all. When I got older I realized how dumb they were. The school was 10 miles from an electrical dam that supplied the power to an ALCOA factory. And, waaay back then Us and the Rooskies had enough nukes to target everything with any potential for warmaking.
Obama's a couple years older than I, and I remember "duck and cover" drills. Though by my era the school called them "earthquake drills."
| 683 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:22:57pm |
re: #644 Alouette
What I said to spaceyoizel:
Incorrect. You have no idea what Yiddish is. Get an education.
Thanks!
| 684 |
Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:23:10pm |
re: #671 redc1c4
But at least he's not a moose-blastin' funny-talkin' baby-havin' snowbilly hick....
/
| 685 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:23:12pm |
re: #570 WinterCat
She has explained her reasons. It has been all over the news. She can't keep fighting the ethics charges and run the gov't plus the costs to the state and to her personally are astronomical and the people who file the charges are doing it at no cost to themselves. It is an unworkable situation for her as a politician and as a person. I think her reasons are sound.
Perhaps I missed something recently, but what you state is what people speculate, not what she clearly stated. Those reasons are valid in my mind, but if it were that simple she could say so simply.
| 686 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:23:31pm |
re: #656 iceweasel
AmThinker publishes all kinds of stuff...even crazy Pam
| 687 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:23:38pm |
re: #676 Walter L. Newton
You jerk, you didn't even answer in Yiddish, you answered in German, which you ran through Babelfish.
Jerk.
Mien mistake.
| 688 |
turn Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:23:48pm |
re: #655 Dianna
Oh, satt, I cannot agree. When one takes up a public duty, you can't lay it down whenever you damn well please! Your ruin may indeed follow, but when you seek office, that is a risk you run.
If you feel your family is more important than your duty, you should never seek out a public responsibility.
I take her at her word that she felt she could no longer do a better job than the Lieutenant Governor with all the shit she is going through with the lawfare attacks. I don't sense she is a quitter.
| 689 |
avanti Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:23:48pm |
re: #662 _RememberTonyC
I enjoy casino gambling, but would never gamble online, even with a US based casino. Sitting at the computer gambling strikes me as something that is completely anti-social. But I guess there are plenty of anti-social types out there that are dying to give their money away. I don't get it at all.
You make a good point, I enjoy the chatter at the table about as much as the gambling. I do play free online Texas hold-um just for the practice though.
| 690 |
redc1c4 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:23:56pm |
re: #680 LGoPs
I also thought that this type of technology was ready and available to take over the country's energy needs. At least that's what I thought Obama was saying during the campaign last summer when gas was $4 a gallon and he said that drilling for our own oil wouldn't provide any relief for 10 years..........
Everything that man says is bullshit. If we could harness that we would be energy independent.
Biofuel!
| 691 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:24:04pm |
re: #648 SpaceJesus
nein, 'bin ganz richtig. yiddisch hat viele verschiedene dialekten
Babblefish has Yiddish?
| 692 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:24:19pm |
re: #676 Walter L. Newton
You jerk, you didn't even answer in Yiddish, you answered in German, which you ran through Babelfish.
Jerk.
HAHA! Bust him, Walter!
| 693 |
debutaunt Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:24:33pm |
re: #577 Creeping Eruption
Just what the Republicans need. Someone filing frivolous suits.
It seems to be effective and will be used extensively.
| 694 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:24:52pm |
re: #651 Occasional Reader
I read the NYT drivel. They claimed this means Obama has been thinking deeply about nuclear disarmament for decades now. Uttering tediously superficial lefty boiler plate, yes... thinking deeply? No.
| 695 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:25:04pm |
| 696 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:25:14pm |
re: #669 lawhawk
He was both a lecturer - an adjunct position, and a senior lecturer, which UChi considers a professor, but which doesn't confer the same status as a full time/tenure track position. The distinctions are important.
He was several times offered the full time/tenure track position, and declined it. Crucially, UChi considers the senior lecturer position a professor. So there hasn't been any misrepresentation here.
I don't deny that the distinctions are important in themselves. I think this issue is a nonstarter, that's all, for the reasons above. Not something worth bashing Obama on.
| 697 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:25:31pm |
re: #676 Walter L. Newton
You jerk, you didn't even answer in Yiddish, you answered in German, which you ran through Babelfish.
Jerk.
nej, ich kann siemlich gut deutsch ohne babelfisch danke
| 698 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:25:42pm |
re: #648 SpaceJesus
nein, 'bin ganz richtig. yiddisch hat viele verschiedene dialekten
"A language is a dialect with a standing army."
- Erasmus of Rotterdam.
And you are still badly behaved.
| 699 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:25:52pm |
re: #682 Dianna
Obama's a couple years older than I, and I remember "duck and cover" drills. Though by my era the school called them "earthquake drills."
In Kazahkstan, we have same. But we call them "Enraged Jew Drills."
Yours,
Borat
| 700 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:25:54pm |
| 701 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:26:14pm |
re: #670 SpaceJesus
nein danke, du kannst mich mal... und deine yiddisch-buchstabiern sieht schwul und bloedsinn aus
Yiddish is written in Hebrew letters, dumbass. What I'm doing is a phonetic transliteration, not a German translation.
| 702 |
Sharmuta Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:26:17pm |
I don't think the recent, more liberal Lizards are mobys. They seem pretty honest to me, even when I disagree with them. I think a real moby would be much more subtle. That is- if they want their moby-ism to be successful, they'd be less open about it, and thus more subtle.
You need moderates to win an election. If moderate Lizards are such an issue around here, the GOP is really screwed.
| 703 |
Killgore Trout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:26:27pm |
A fanatic who once paraded his baby in an 'I love al-Quaeda' hat was today jailed for firebombing the home of the publisher of a novel about Mohammed.Ali Beheshti, 41, a follower of hate cleric Abu Hamza, poured diesel through the letterbox of the £2.5million house and set it alight to 'punish' owner Martin Rynja.
The attack came weeks before Mr Rynja's publishing company was due to release The Jewel of Medina, a fictional account of the Prophet's child bride.
...
Today a judge told the extremist and his two accomplices as she sentenced them each to four-and-a-half years: 'If you choose to live in this country, you live by its rules.'
| 704 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:26:56pm |
re: #698 Dianna
"A language is a dialect with a standing army."
- Erasmus of Rotterdam.
That is a GREAT mah-fahin' quote. I love it.
| 705 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:27:01pm |
re: #686 albusteve
AmThinker publishes all kinds of stuff...even crazy Pam
Exactly, Crazy Pam and that guy Jack Cashill who keeps trying to prove Ayers ghostwrote Obama's books. I'm just waiting for the left to start nicknaming it "American Stinker".
| 707 |
Kragar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:27:20pm |
re: #647 Danny
CNN Breaking News...
"-- At memorial service in L.A., Michael Jackson's daughter Paris says he was "the best father you could ever imagine."
Glad I subscribe to CNN breaking news....
///////////////////////////////////////////
Micheal Jackson is still dead, we'll keep you apprised of any changes to his condition.
| 708 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:27:36pm |
re: #699 Occasional Reader
In Kazahkstan, we have same. But we call them "Enraged Jew Drills."
Yours,
Borat
That movie was on a couple of weeks ago on cable (TBS, maybe?), and I could only watch 15 minutes before I'd had enough. Jerking off on the streets of NYC? Uh, yeah.
| 709 |
Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:27:37pm |
re: #702 Sharmuta
You need moderates to win an election. If moderate Lizards are such an issue around here, the GOP is really screwed.
No.....if the GOP allows the liberals and MSM to dictate to them who or what is 'moderate', then they're screwed.
| 710 |
doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:27:51pm |
I only know a very little German and less Yiddish, but I think Alouette is getting the better of Space Jesus.
| 711 |
Beach Lover Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:28:04pm |
A little side note into SP's persona. My son was in a Chicago airport waiting at the skyclub for his flight and in walks Sarah. She had been campaigning and traveling all day for the run off for Saxby Chambliss. She was no longer running for office and had no reason to be "on", but he walked up and asked her for a photo with him. Her answer..."you betcha". I cherish it!
She's the real thing.
| 712 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:28:23pm |
re: #681 SpaceJesus
god learn how to spell beispiel. speaking yiddish is one thing, spelling words that are pure german like that looks ridiculous.
Says the dimfuck who cannot spell "challenge" or "Liechtenstein".
| 714 |
WinterCat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:28:44pm |
re: #685 Naso Tang
Perhaps I missed something recently, but what you state is what people speculate, not what she clearly stated. Those reasons are valid in my mind, but if it were that simple she could say so simply.
"You know, conditions have really changed in Alaska in the political arena since Aug. 29, since I was tapped to run for VP. When that opposition research -- those researchers really bombarded Alaska -- started digging for dirt and have not let up. They're not gonna find any dirt," she said. "We keep proving that every time we win an ethics violation lawsuit, and we've won every one of them. But it has been costing our state millions of dollars. It's cost Todd and me. You know the adversaries would love to see us put on the path of personal bankruptcy so that we can't afford to run."
Explanation here.
| 715 |
pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:28:55pm |
re: #709 Fenway_Nation
What are you doing? Going through all the army's divisional patches? Cool.
| 716 |
debutaunt Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:28:55pm |
re: #614 Occasional Reader
I can't stick around, but I just couldn't resist this one:
#312 spacejesus:
All that fancy study abroad... and this is the best you can do? Since Yiddish derives (in part) from German, therefore a certain Yiddish word "just means" the equivalent German word? Huh?By your own logic: Since the Spanish word machete derives from the English word Manchester... therefore, the Spanish word machete "just means" an industrial city in England. QED!
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA
| 717 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:29:11pm |
re: #708 Ward Cleaver
That movie was on a couple of weeks ago on cable (TBS, maybe?), and I could only watch 15 minutes before I'd had enough. Jerking off on the streets of NYC? Uh, yeah.
I may have blotted that part out of my memory.
I think Borat (and Cohen's other characters) go way over the top sometimes, but they can be hysterically funny.
| 718 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:29:18pm |
| 719 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:29:26pm |
re: #701 Alouette
Yiddish is written in Hebrew letters, dumbass. What I'm doing is a phonetic transliteration, not a German translation.
you're still using a german word. if you are going to steal a german word, at least preserve its proper spelling.
like I said, german is no more yiddish than english is spanglish
| 720 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:29:48pm |
re: #705 iceweasel
Exactly, Crazy Pam and that guy Jack Cashill who keeps trying to prove Ayers ghostwrote Obama's books. I'm just waiting for the left to start nicknaming it "American Stinker".
it's not all or nothing....it's just another place to surf for points of view
| 721 |
Kenneth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:29:52pm |
re: #696 iceweasel
Not bashing Obama on it, but knocking Obama boosters down when they trot that out as a serious accomplishment. It was a mildly noteworthy accomplishment. Not a huge achievement. I have known plenty of junior lecturers and although some of them are actually even smart in their chosen field, I don't think any of them would make good chief executives.
| 722 |
Rancher Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:30:12pm |
If I was a conservative Alaskan I would want her to stay if she could be effective, I would want her to leave if she was hindering our agenda. It seems that the Dems in Alaska who were willing to work with her earlier suddenly decided that anything and everything she supported had to be shot down either because they got a message from on high or because she opposed the Messiah. Couple that with the animosity from her own party for the reforms she put in place and its pretty plain she was no longer of much use to the Republican party. I would have left to, she had no damn "duty" to stay, especially with the crippling debts she was required by Alaskan law to incur from the onslaught of frivolous ethics charges.
As an American I'm happy she can now raise lots of money, I just gave her some of mine. I'm also happy that she can now be turned loose, we have yet to see a Sarah Palin unconstrained by McCain or the Governorship. She will either sink or swim and I'm betting she will swim magnificently.
| 723 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:30:24pm |
re: #701 Alouette
Yiddish is written in Hebrew letters, dumbass. What I'm doing is a phonetic transliteration, not a German translation.
Got his ass handed to him AGAIN.
| 725 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:30:38pm |
re: #675 Occasional Reader
A quibble; Shakespeare should not be on the list. One needs no specific language study (outside of modern English) to understand Shakespeare in the original Elizabethan English.
(Of course, he's even better in the original Klingon, but you knew that.)
Agreed. The point is that the lunatic at the American Thinker put Shakespeare on the list!
That by itself is enough to refute him, IMO.
| 726 |
pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:31:00pm |
Pardon my ignorance, but isn't yiddish a lot like American english? A whole bunch of stuff thrown together from other languages like a phonetic stew?
| 727 |
Fenway_Nation Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:31:00pm |
| 728 |
Dan G. Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:31:03pm |
re: #702 Sharmuta
Also, a moby doesn't typically take a liberal stance. A moby takes a far-right-kook-racist-blamable position, so as to make the site look like the lefties' characterizations' of their opponents.
| 729 |
Occasional Reader Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:31:03pm |
Oy vey! (That's High Middlebrow German, or something, I think) It's 4:30 and I have miles to go before I sleep. Later.
| 730 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:31:14pm |
re: #708 Ward Cleaver
That movie was on a couple of weeks ago on cable (TBS, maybe?), and I could only watch 15 minutes before I'd had enough. Jerking off on the streets of NYC? Uh, yeah.
well...your'e certainly no up to the minute hip, pop culture guy...
| 731 |
Creeping Eruption Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:31:24pm |
re: #707 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Micheal Jackson is still dead, we'll keep you apprised of any changes to his condition.
I breathlessly await your updates./
| 732 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:31:29pm |
Didn't Obama attend school in Indonesia from ages 6 - 10? Hmmm?
| 733 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:31:51pm |
re: #717 Occasional Reader
I may have blotted that part out of my memory.
I think Borat (and Cohen's other characters) go way over the top sometimes, but they can be hysterically funny.
He was standing in front of a department store window with his back to the camera. The window had scantily clad manniquins (sp?) in the window.
| 734 |
pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:32:12pm |
re: #727 Fenway_Nation
Ah ha! I'd noticed the nic avatar changing and wondered.
| 735 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:32:15pm |
re: #614 Occasional Reader
I can't stick around, but I just couldn't resist this one:
#312 spacejesus:
All that fancy study abroad... and this is the best you can do? Since Yiddish derives (in part) from German, therefore a certain Yiddish word "just means" the equivalent German word? Huh?
if the yiddish word in use derives from a german word, as far as I know, it always means basically the same thing as its german predecessor. nice try.
| 736 |
WinterCat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:32:29pm |
re: #731 Creeping Eruption
I breathlessly await your updates./
So does Michael.
Oh, my, did I really just say that?
| 738 |
Kragar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:32:39pm |
re: #717 Occasional Reader
I may have blotted that part out of my memory.
I think Borat (and Cohen's other characters) go way over the top sometimes, but they can be hysterically funny.
Best in small doses. The movies are simply absurd.
| 739 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:33:00pm |
re: #707 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Micheal Jackson is still dead, we'll keep you apprised of any changes to his condition.
You mean he hasn't risen from the dead to bring us peace, music, and joy to all the little boys?
| 740 |
ointmentfly Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:33:01pm |
re: #711 Beach Lover
A little side note into SP's persona. My son was in a Chicago airport waiting at the skyclub for his flight and in walks Sarah. She had been campaigning and traveling all day for the run off for Saxby Chambliss. She was no longer running for office and had no reason to be "on", but he walked up and asked her for a photo with him. Her answer..."you betcha". I cherish it!
She's the real thing.
.... who walked into a lions den of democrats and feminists just inches away from the Oval office and moderate republicans looking for somebody to throw under the bus.
| 741 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:33:16pm |
re: #737 taxfreekiller
On language:
Some one needs to inform Pres. Obama of the word...NO.
It would help the national debt if he had a clue on that one word.
Ron Paul needs to hear that same advice.
| 742 |
pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:33:22pm |
re: #736 WinterCat
Chevy Chase just called. he wants his line back!
| 743 |
doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:33:29pm |
How about some good news? Ward Churchill is NOT entitled to get his job back.
| 744 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:33:37pm |
re: #710 doppelganglander
I only know a very little German and less Yiddish, but I think Alouette is getting the better of Space Jesus.
I'm beginning to think SpaceJesus may be more than one person - a trinity perhaps.
(oh I am so going to hell for that)
| 745 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:33:37pm |
re: #704 Occasional Reader
That is a GREAT mah-fahin' quote. I love it.
So do I.
I deeply love Erasmus.
| 746 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:33:40pm |
re: #689 avanti
You make a good point, I enjoy the chatter at the table about as much as the gambling. I do play free online Texas hold-um just for the practice though.
I'm gonna be on a cruise in 10 days and my wife and me will be in the casino every night. Casinos on cruise ships are the best. The first night is for scoping out fun players and the rest of the nights are for playing at the table with the "funnest" ones. I never lose big in cruise casinos. I don't always win, but the losses always seem to be tolerable.
| 747 |
Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:33:45pm |
| 748 |
Racer X Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:34:08pm |
| 749 |
doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:34:38pm |
re: #744 reine.de.tout
I'm beginning to think SpaceJesus may be more than one person - a trinity perhaps.
(oh I am so going to hell for that)
LOL! He doesn't have enough sense to be one responsible person.
| 750 |
sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:34:49pm |
| 751 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:35:07pm |
re: #721 Kenneth
Not bashing Obama on it, but knocking Obama boosters down when they trot that out as a serious accomplishment. It was a mildly noteworthy accomplishment. Not a huge achievement. I have known plenty of junior lecturers and although some of them are actually even smart in their chosen field, I don't think any of them would make good chief executives.
Ask law professors though, or people who are working in academia in law, and they'll tell you that turning down several offers of a fulltime, tenure track position at UChi's law school is like....I don't even know how to build a strong enough simile. Like winning a million dollar lottery more than once and giving away the ticket every time.
(I don't mean in terms of the financial renumneration, but the prestige within law academia)
None of this matters though, because it doesn't bear on someone's ability to be a chief executive. I do want to point out that within that one field, it is a hell of an accomplishment.
| 752 |
Creeping Eruption Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:35:09pm |
| 753 |
Beach Lover Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:35:13pm |
re: #672 redstateredneck
hey {Red!
that and I would imagine he was more of a playmate to them than a father. ( And I dont mean anything sinister by that) I feel sorry for those kids. I hope the hangers-on will let them have a decent childhood...something his family didnt let him have (obviously).
The Anna Nicole Smith story will be small potatoes combared to this fiasco. It will go on for months and months. Lawsuits, etc.
Now, Zero will not stand having to being bumped off the adoring media's focus for long. Guess we should be afraid what he might do to get it back.
| 754 |
Dan G. Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:35:15pm |
re: #747 Gang of One
mmmmm gelatinous fish balls floating in a soupy broth.
| 755 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:35:19pm |
re: #733 Walter L. Newton
He was standing in front of a department store window with his back to the camera. The window had scantily clad manniquins (sp?) in the window.
Uncovered cat meat!
/
| 756 |
jorline Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:35:41pm |
re: #737 taxfreekiller
On language:
Some one needs to inform Pres. Obama of the word...NO.
It would help the national debt if he had a clue on that one word.
NO, Joe, that's not what we mean.
| 757 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:36:39pm |
re: #753 Beach Lover
hey {Red!
that and I would imagine he was more of a playmate to them than a father. ( And I dont mean anything sinister by that) I feel sorry for those kids. I hope the hangers-on will let them have a decent childhood...something his family didnt let him have (obviously).
The Anna Nicole Smith story will be small potatoes combared to this fiasco. It will go on for months and months. Lawsuits, etc.
Now, Zero will not stand having to being bumped off the adoring media's focus for long. Guess we should be afraid what he might do to get it back.
Start wearing a single glove covered in rhinestones & grabbing his crotch at press conferences?
| 758 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:37:08pm |
re: #737 taxfreekiller
On language:
Some one needs to inform Pres. Obama of the word...NO.
It would help the national debt if he had a clue on that one word.
If inflation takes off before next November's election, the GOP might regain control of one house or another. If it doesn't - look out.
/then we're really screwed
| 759 |
subsailor68 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:37:22pm |
re: #737 taxfreekiller
On language:
Some one needs to inform Pres. Obama of the word...NO.
It would help the national debt if he had a clue on that one word.
Well, he does know what it means in one respect:
"Mr. President, are you aware that the combination of domestic policies you're proposing will completely and utterly bankrupt this country?"
"No."
| 760 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:37:36pm |
The Coming Storm:
MUST have the calming pants. Don't tell Glenn Beck though or he'll get them first.
| 761 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:37:39pm |
| 762 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:37:55pm |
re: #735 SpaceJesus
if the yiddish word in use derives from a german word, as far as I know, it always means basically the same thing as its german predecessor. nice try.
Not really.
Master the concept of "linguistic/semantic drift."
| 764 |
Achilles Tang Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:38:09pm |
re: #714 WinterCat
That comment was dated July 7, today or very recetly, and it's clearer than what I have seen before, but doesn't impress me with its presentation, nor the Department of Law.
I will say however that I had been unaware that an elected official, governor no less, could in reality be hounded out of office just by lawsuits. Has that happened before, or is Alaska unique in this regard?
Seems to me she would likely have had a lot of support for changing the law in this regard, had she stuck it out.
| 765 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:38:45pm |
| 766 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:38:58pm |
re: #743 doppelganglander
How about some good news? Ward Churchill is NOT entitled to get his job back.
Woot! Woot!
Yay! Hurrah! Whoopee! Yeee-haw!
Other silly noises of celebration available upon request.
| 767 |
Creeping Eruption Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:39:29pm |
re: #766 Dianna
Woot! Woot!
Yay! Hurrah! Whoopee! Yeee-haw!
Other silly noises of celebration available upon request.
So requesting.
| 768 |
MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:39:29pm |
| 769 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:40:06pm |
re: #743 doppelganglander
How about some good news? Ward Churchill is NOT entitled to get his job back.
If only Winston Churchill could get his old job back...
| 770 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:40:12pm |
re: #754 Dan G.
mmmmm gelatinous fish balls floating in a soupy broth.
Actually the frozen rolls of gefilte fish that are sold nowadays are really good and there are a lot of different and delicious ways to prepare it. Not your grandmother's jellied crap from a jar.
| 771 |
Killian Bundy Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:40:51pm |
Alaskan files ethics complaint against Palin
A resident of Sarah Palin's hometown has filed an ethics complaint against her, just days after her surprise announcement that she will resign as Alaska governor.
Zane Henning alleges in the complaint filed Monday that Palin is violating state ethics law by collecting per diem when she stays in her Wasilla home instead of the Governor's Mansion in Juneau.
It's the 16th ethics complaint filed against Palin, who noted in her resignation speech last week that "frivolous" ethics complaints had set her back more than $500,000 in legal debt. She steps down July 26.
Most of the complaints, including another one by Henning, have been dismissed.
/what an asshole
| 772 |
pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:40:56pm |
re: #743 doppelganglander
Fuckin' A. The goddamn hack bastard. Useless, good for nothing pimple on the ass of humanity.
| 773 |
LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:41:54pm |
re: #770 Alouette
Actually the frozen rolls of gefilte fish that are sold nowadays are really good and there are a lot of different and delicious ways to prepare it. Not your grandmother's jellied crap from a jar.
Is gefilte fish always served in a soup? I grew up seeing it on the store shelves in my neighborhood but never had any. Is it good?
| 774 |
yochanan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:42:00pm |
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
FILE THIS ONE UNDER CAN THEY BOTH LOSE?
| 776 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:42:05pm |
re: #762 Dianna
Not really.
Master the concept of "linguistic/semantic drift."
point out a yiddish word that is taken from german which has taken on an entirely new meaning.
| 777 |
Creeping Eruption Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:42:11pm |
OT: Another Bush doctrine embraced by Obama:
U.S. May Not Release Acquitted Detainees
FROM THE ARTICLE:
The Obama administration said Tuesday it may continue to imprison non-U.S. citizens indefinitely even if they have been acquitted of terrorism charges by a U.S. military commission.
Jeh Johnson, the Defense Department's chief lawyer, told the Senate Armed Services Committee that releasing a detainee who has been tried and found not guilty was a policy decision officials would make based on their estimate of whether the prisoner posed a future threat. The Bush administration took the same position, but its legality was never tested.
Also at the hearing, Obama administration officials differed with the Navy's senior uniformed lawyer over whether coerced statements could be used to obtain convictions before military commissions.
| 778 |
Beach Lover Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:42:25pm |
re: #743 doppelganglander
good.
that guy makes my skin crawl
| 779 |
doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:42:44pm |
re: #769 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey
If only Winston Churchill could get his old job back...
I demand the right to give you 10,000 updings!
| 780 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:42:48pm |
re: #771 Killian Bundy
Alaskan files ethics complaint against Palin
/what an asshole
What's the statute of limitations on ethical complaints?
| 781 |
LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:42:51pm |
re: #772 pingjockey
Fuckin' A. The goddamn hack bastard. Useless, good for nothing pimple on the ass of humanity.
Which makes him eminently qualified to serve in Obama's administration.
| 782 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:42:51pm |
Here's one for Charles .....
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
Lance Armstrong is within one second of the Tour de France lead. Lance just never looks right unless he is wearing a yellow jersey.
| 783 |
yochanan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:43:16pm |
re: #773 LGoPs
The jar stuff SUCKS
home made or frozen is much better
| 784 |
Creeping Eruption Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:43:17pm |
re: #770 Alouette
Actually the frozen rolls of gefilte fish that are sold nowadays are really good and there are a lot of different and delicious ways to prepare it. Not your grandmother's jellied crap from a jar.
My mom bakes hers. It is to die for.
(Isn't it proper to say: It is for which to die?)
| 785 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:43:26pm |
re: #773 LGoPs
Is gefilte fish always served in a soup? I grew up seeing it on the store shelves in my neighborhood but never had any. Is it good?
Gefilte fish is usually served as the fish ball with lots of horseradish to mask the taste. Unless you use those loaves or make it from scratch from a carp that was kept in the bathtub.
/slightly; I do like the stuff.
| 786 |
Sharmuta Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:43:30pm |
re: #709 Fenway_Nation
No.....if the GOP allows the liberals and MSM to dictate to them who or what is 'moderate', then they're screwed.
No, this isn't about the left. This is about us. What do we think we represent? What is moderate from that? This starts with our foundation. It needs repairs. Whatever other fixes we have in mind are meaningless without a solid base.
Look the recent data of people in both parties saying both parties are too far on their respective sides of the spectrum. The people want moderation. The people want fiscal responsibility and personal liberty. What are we as republicans to do with our own house right now?
| 787 |
Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:43:36pm |
re: #773 LGoPs
Is gefilte fish always served in a soup? I grew up seeing it on the store shelves in my neighborhood but never had any. Is it good?
Nope. My mom and grandmother always served it on a plate, with white or red horseradish and boiled carrot slices on top.
/I never could eat it, though.
| 788 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:43:51pm |
re: #763 Fenway_Nation
Cajun Gefiltefish?
re: #770 Alouette
Actually the frozen rolls of gefilte fish that are sold nowadays are really good and there are a lot of different and delicious ways to prepare it. Not your grandmother's jellied crap from a jar.
New & Improved Cajun Herschel's Frozen Spicy Gefiltefish! It's not your granmere's crap in a jar! I guarantee!
| 789 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:44:08pm |
re: #735 SpaceJesus
if the yiddish word in use derives from a german word, as far as I know, it always means basically the same thing as its german predecessor. nice try.
Most Jews I know feel like puking when they hear fake Yiddish spoken (or transliterated) with a strong German accent.
So kindly cease and desist from same.
| 790 |
LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:44:18pm |
re: #785 Kosh's Shadow
Gefilte fish is usually served as the fish ball with lots of horseradish to mask the taste. Unless you use those loaves or make it from scratch from a carp that was kept in the bathtub.
/slightly; I do like the stuff.
I certainly like the horseradish part.......
| 791 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:44:20pm |
re: #777 Creeping Eruption
OT: Another Bush doctrine embraced by Obama:
U.S. May Not Release Acquitted Detainees
FROM THE ARTICLE:
"change" even Obama can't believe in?
| 792 |
Creeping Eruption Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:44:23pm |
re: #773 LGoPs
Is gefilte fish always served in a soup? I grew up seeing it on the store shelves in my neighborhood but never had any. Is it good?
LOL. Its not soup. The stuff you saw was this nasty jelly stuff in which they packed it.
| 793 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:45:17pm |
re: #779 doppelganglander
I'd take Zombie Churchill over living Obama any day of the week.
| 794 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:45:40pm |
re: #767 Creeping Eruption
So requesting.
Way to go! Hallelujah! Glory! OOOOOWEEEE! Yowza! Boy, howdy! Huzzah! Oh, frabjous day! Calloo! Callay!
| 795 |
Creeping Eruption Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:45:48pm |
| 796 |
MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:45:54pm |
re: #785 Kosh's Shadow
Gefilte fish is usually served as the fish ball with lots of horseradish to mask the taste. Unless you use those loaves or make it from scratch from a carp that was kept in the bathtub.
/slightly; I do like the stuff.
As long as it's not lutefisk.
(I still wish I'd never tried that stuff. *shudder*)
| 797 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:46:02pm |
re: #792 Creeping Eruption
LOL. Its not soup. The stuff you saw was this nasty jelly stuff in which they packed it.
gefilte fish and matzo .... the modern Passover plagues.
| 798 |
haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:46:30pm |
C O N S E R V A T I S M
A New Hope
(Keep the change)
| 799 |
pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:46:32pm |
re: #771 Killian Bundy
And people wonder why she's had enough. Not to mention the courts time being wasted. Speaking of wasting time, did you see where the Senate, since there's nothing really of consequence going on(!) is going to look into why the NCAA doesn't have a football playoff instead of all the bowl games. Yep, that there is a very pressing need.
| 800 |
WinterCat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:46:37pm |
re: #764 Naso Tang
That comment was dated July 7, today or very recetly, and it's clearer than what I have seen before, but doesn't impress me with its presentation, nor the Department of Law.
I will say however that I had been unaware that an elected official, governor no less, could in reality be hounded out of office just by lawsuits. Has that happened before, or is Alaska unique in this regard?
Seems to me she would likely have had a lot of support for changing the law in this regard, had she stuck it out.
She is out of pocket about 1/2 million. Huffington Post
I seriously doubt anyone would stay around for more of that abuse and if you think this isn't just the tip of the iceberg...the goal is complete and utter annihilation of this woman. Her strategy appears to be to get beyond them by moving out of public office and into the private sector where she can launch an effective counter attack.
| 801 |
Beach Lover Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:46:54pm |
did y'all just hear that another czar is gonna be announced? A health insurance czar? Pretty soon we will have to have a czar czar...kind of a grand poobah czar!
| 802 |
Creeping Eruption Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:47:29pm |
re: #797 _RememberTonyC
gefilte fish and matzo .... the modern Passover plagues.
Correct. Matzo truly is the bread of affliction.
| 803 |
pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:47:31pm |
re: #786 Sharmuta
You are right there. It is our problem. And I'll be damned if I can think of a solution right now.
| 804 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:47:42pm |
re: #776 SpaceJesus
point out a yiddish word that is taken from german which has taken on an entirely new meaning.
Okay... Fetzen
(German)
Fetzen Fetzen m , -s, -
a (abgerissen) shred , (zerrissen auch) tatter
(=Stofffetzen, Papierfetzen, Gesprächsfetzen) scrap
(=Kleidung) rag
(=Nebelfetzen) wisp
in Fetzen sein, nur noch Fetzen sein to be in tatters or shreds
in Fetzen gekleidet dressed in rags
das Kleid ist in Fetzen gegangen the dress has fallen to pieces
etw in Fetzen (zer)reißen to tear sth to shreds
etw in tausend Fetzen (zer)reißen to tear sth into a thousand pieces
..., dass die Fetzen fliegen inf ... like mad (Brit) inf inf or crazy
b (Aus) (=Scheuertuch) rag
Yiddish it means FART.
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Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:48:01pm |
re: #797 _RememberTonyC
gefilte fish and matzo .... the modern Passover plagues.
Try the real handmade matzo. Expensive, but much better than the machine-made cardboard. (Seriously, runs $12 up a pound, but that's because the wheat is guarded from when it is harvested until the batter is mixed to make sure it doesn't get wet, which could cause it to leaven)
If you can't find it around passover in your supermarket, order from your local Chabad.
| 806 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:48:16pm |
re: #773 LGoPs
Is gefilte fish always served in a soup? I grew up seeing it on the store shelves in my neighborhood but never had any. Is it good?
In a soup? No, you are probably thinking of matzah balls.
| 807 |
haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:48:18pm |
re: #801 Beach Lover
did y'all just hear that another czar is gonna be announced? A health insurance czar? Pretty soon we will have to have a czar czar...kind of a grand poobah czar!
A Tsar is born.
| 808 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:48:21pm |
re: #776 SpaceJesus
point out a yiddish word that is taken from german which has taken on an entirely new meaning.
First, "drift" means a that the meaning changes over time. At the beginning of this discussion - in which you have demonstrated a very poor grasp of academic logic and method - "mensch" was called to your attention.
I need say nothing more.
| 809 |
MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:48:45pm |
re: #801 Beach Lover
did y'all just hear that another czar is gonna be announced? A health insurance czar? Pretty soon we will have to have a czar czar...kind of a grand poobah czar!
We have one. His name is Barack Obama. At least, it seems like that's what he wants as his title...
/1/8th
| 810 |
IslandLibertarian Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:48:53pm |
Sarah Palin resignation; winner or loser decision?
By comment #770 they're discussing gefilte fish............
You be the judge...........
/I still like her, and I believe she is a force to be watched.
| 811 |
Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:48:59pm |
re: #802 Creeping Eruption
Correct. Matzo truly is the bread of affliction.
I handed a blind man a piece of matzoh. He said, "this is awful ... who writes this stuff?"
/ducks and runs ...
| 812 |
LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:49:05pm |
re: #796 MrSilverDragon
As long as it's not lutefisk.
(I still wish I'd never tried that stuff. *shudder*)
I don't know lutefisk but I can't eat cooked salmon to this day because my mom made me take cod liver oil every day when I was a kid - in the liquid form - no pills back then. Cooked salmon makes me shudder.
| 813 |
yochanan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:49:12pm |
Yiddish broke off of one branch of German 500 years ago modern German came from the other branch.
plus Yiddish uses many different words and does not combine words like modern German plus it is written in a totally different alphabet. Yiddish isn't the only 'Germanic based' lang Afrikaans and dutch are a couple of others.
| 814 |
Creeping Eruption Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:49:35pm |
re: #805 Kosh's Shadow
Try the real handmade matzo. Expensive, but much better than the machine-made cardboard. (Seriously, runs $12 up a pound, but that's because the wheat is guarded from when it is harvested until the batter is mixed to make sure it doesn't get wet, which could cause it to leaven)
If you can't find it around passover in your supermarket, order from your local Chabad.
Shmura (sp) is also the bread of affliction.
With that, I bid all of you a goodnight. It is warm, and sunny, so I am off Gefiltafishing.
| 815 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:49:35pm |
re: #776 SpaceJesus
point out a yiddish word that is taken from german which has taken on an entirely new meaning.
Schmuck.
| 816 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:50:12pm |
re: #801 Beach Lover
did y'all just hear that another czar is gonna be announced? A health insurance czar? Pretty soon we will have to have a czar czar...kind of a grand poobah czar!
Jeeze! None of whom go through any confirmation process.
| 817 |
LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:50:14pm |
re: #806 Alouette
In a soup? No, you are probably thinking of matzah balls.
I love matzoh ball soup. There's a nice Jewish restaurant near my mom's in Chicago that makes a very nice one.
| 818 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:50:34pm |
| 819 |
pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:50:35pm |
re: #805 Kosh's Shadow
Baaah. The only yiddish I need to know is the little mom and pop kosher deli in Brooklyn, just down from the old navy yard. OMG! sandwiches and pickles to die for. We don't have a decent deli within 100 miles of where I live now. :(
| 820 |
doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:50:37pm |
re: #797 _RememberTonyC
gefilte fish and matzo .... the modern Passover plagues.
Y'all are making me glad I was raised by Southern parents. Ham, green beans, fried chicken, mashed potatoes, gravy, corn on the cob... is it dinner time yet?
| 821 |
Sharmuta Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:50:40pm |
re: #803 pingjockey
You are right there. It is our problem. And I'll be damned if I can think of a solution right now.
I like the idea of really restricting Washington's powers by proposing the balanced budget amendment again. And get out of people's personal lives and support liberty and the rule of law. It might seem simple, but the answer doesn't have to be complex.
| 822 |
hous bin pharteen Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:50:41pm |
re: #771 Killian Bundy
These assholes will stop at nothing to get her to not run. It just goes to show how crooked the libs are.
| 823 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:50:59pm |
re: #808 Dianna
First, "drift" means a that the meaning changes over time. At the beginning of this discussion - in which you have demonstrated a very poor grasp of academic logic and method - "mensch" was called to your attention.
I need say nothing more.
mensch carries the same meaning in both yiddish and german, so you stand corrected.
| 824 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:51:15pm |
re: #805 Kosh's Shadow
Try the real handmade matzo. Expensive, but much better than the machine-made cardboard. (Seriously, runs $12 up a pound, but that's because the wheat is guarded from when it is harvested until the batter is mixed to make sure it doesn't get wet, which could cause it to leaven)
If you can't find it around passover in your supermarket, order from your local Chabad.
we have a Kosher market near my house ..... I'll try it next year. thanks for the tip
| 825 |
redstateredneck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:51:17pm |
I'm outta here, y'all. I feel like I'm coming down with a summer cold.
:-(
Later, lizards.
| 826 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:51:30pm |
re: #796 MrSilverDragon
As long as it's not lutefisk.
(I still wish I'd never tried that stuff. *shudder*)
You, too? Lutefisk lives in my memory as the justification for strong drink.
| 827 |
TheMatrix31 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:51:36pm |
This fucker in class sitting next to me is coughing up a storm. Ugh.
| 829 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:51:42pm |
re: #815 Alouette
Schmuck.
Ok, he has been given three examples of German words that took on NEW meanings in Yiddish.
Where did he/she/it go?
| 830 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:52:26pm |
re: #829 Walter L. Newton
Ok, he has been given three examples of German words that took on NEW meanings in Yiddish.
Where did he/she/it go?
In der erd arayn.
| 831 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:52:54pm |
re: #815 Alouette
Schmuck.
nice one. despite its spelling, it actually isn't german in origin at all though.
| 832 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:53:07pm |
| 833 |
MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:53:09pm |
re: #812 LGoPs
I don't know lutefisk but I can't eat cooked salmon to this day because my mom made me take cod liver oil every day when I was a kid - in the liquid form - no pills back then. Cooked salmon makes me shudder.
Well, check out the standard preparation method.
I just can't do it again. Ever.
| 834 |
doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:53:21pm |
re: #829 Walter L. Newton
Ok, he has been given three examples of German words that took on NEW meanings in Yiddish.
Where did he/she/it go?
He/she/it is impervious to correction. I can't believe anyone is stupid enough to argue his point in a room full of people who know Yiddish.
| 836 |
Beach Lover Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:53:34pm |
re: #816 redstateredneck
Jeeze! None of whom go through any confirmation process.
of course, thats the point. They will all report to the One! If the Dimwits had any brains they would wake up and smell the power being drained from congress.
| 837 |
pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:53:56pm |
re: #821 Sharmuta
We are on the same page. However, some who shall remain nameless, NOT, goddamn idiot socons firmly intend to run any and all moderates screaming to the left. I don't care what you do in your own house. Roe v Wade is the law of the land, and the earth was not created 6000 years ago, and no you can't teach it as science.
| 838 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:54:01pm |
re: #820 doppelganglander
Y'all are making me glad I was raised by Southern parents. Ham, green beans, fried chicken, mashed potatoes, gravy, corn on the cob... is it dinner time yet?
I love ham .... and any person of the Jewish faith that does not love Chinese food (with all its pork) should be looked at with suspicion
/ kind of :)
| 839 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:54:02pm |
re: #829 Walter L. Newton
Ok, he has been given three examples of German words that took on NEW meanings in Yiddish.
Where did he/she/it go?
schmuck isn't german, 'tard.
| 840 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:54:04pm |
re: #803 pingjockey
You are right there. It is our problem. And I'll be damned if I can think of a solution right now.
I can...tax, and spending cuts.... closing up the borders...a national school voucher system...election reform and an unwavering allegiance to the Constitution...it's a slam dunk, the message is clear...it's the messenger that has no clue
| 841 |
WinterCat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:54:18pm |
re: #780 MandyManners
What's the statute of limitations on ethical complaints?
I read 2 years in Alaska.
Zane has filed complaints about Palin before.And these are the people who are behind much of the dirt thrown at Palin during the campaign. It includes one Republican who became an Independent after the election...hmmm
| 842 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:54:27pm |
re: #831 SpaceJesus
nice one. despite its spelling, it actually isn't german in origin at all though.
You're correct, it derived from Polish...
Schmuck is most often used in American English as a pejorative or insult, meaning an obnoxious or contemptible person; one who is stupid, foolish, or detestable.
Schmuck entered English as a borrowed pejorative from the common Yiddish insult, where it is an obscene term for penis.[1] In his cultural lexicon, The Joys of Yiddish, Leo Rosten lists the Yiddish schmuck as related to the Slovene word, šmok, meaning "a fool, an innocent, a gullible dolt".[verification needed] The Online Etymology Dictionary derives it from the Polish word smok for snake, dragon as an euphemism for "penis".[2]
| 843 |
haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:54:31pm |
re: #786 Sharmuta
No, this isn't about the left. This is about us. What do we think we represent? What is moderate from that? This starts with our foundation. It needs repairs. Whatever other fixes we have in mind are meaningless without a solid base.
Look the recent data of people in both parties saying both parties are too far on their respective sides of the spectrum. The people want moderation. The people want fiscal responsibility and personal liberty. What are we as republicans to do with our own house right now?
Clean the Hell out of it. My position now is different than it was in 2004, 2006, or 2008, because the situation is different. We are out out OUT. We need a Mayflower Compact of sorts pledging the disparate groups within the "big tent" to A) hold certain lines on defense, and B) work together on a few points on offense. Won't sign the document? Over the side you go.
| 844 |
Beach Lover Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:55:12pm |
re: #825 redstateredneck
I'm outta here, y'all. I feel like I'm coming down with a summer cold.
:-(
Later, lizards.
bye, Red. Hope you feel better!
| 846 |
Kosh's Shadow Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:55:21pm |
re: #817 LGoPs
I love matzoh ball soup. There's a nice Jewish restaurant near my mom's in Chicago that makes a very nice one.
I thought the best was from Cowboy Feng's Space Bar and Grille
///
| 847 |
Creeping Eruption Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:55:56pm |
re: #839 SpaceJesus
schmuck isn't german, 'tard.
I usually don't jump into these little skirmishes, but I ask that you refrain from using the word "tard." It adds nothing and offends much.
| 848 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:56:13pm |
re: #839 SpaceJesus
schmuck isn't german, 'tard.
I correct myself already. Waiting for Fetzen, fart.
| 849 |
yochanan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:56:39pm |
re: #831 SpaceJesus
modern Yiddish isn't only German in origin plus it isn't from the same version as modern German altogether.
your just wrong space cowboy.
| 850 |
Kragar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:56:43pm |
re: #812 LGoPs
I don't know lutefisk but I can't eat cooked salmon to this day because my mom made me take cod liver oil every day when I was a kid - in the liquid form - no pills back then. Cooked salmon makes me shudder.
To quote from a truly classic movie:
Iona Hildebrandt: Lutefisk. It's cod, that's been soaked in lye for about a week. It's best served with lots of butter.
| 852 |
Sharmuta Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:57:03pm |
re: #843 haakondahl
Clean the Hell out of it. My position now is different than it was in 2004, 2006, or 2008, because the situation is different. We are out out OUT. We need a Mayflower Compact of sorts pledging the disparate groups within the "big tent" to A) hold certain lines on defense, and B) work together on a few points on offense. Won't sign the document? Over the side you go.
I agree. For me that line is the balanced budget amendment. Can't support it like in 1994? Buh-bye.
| 853 |
Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:57:07pm |
re: #842 Walter L. Newton
You're correct, it derived from Polish...
Schmuck is most often used in American English as a pejorative or insult, meaning an obnoxious or contemptible person; one who is stupid, foolish, or detestable.
Schmuck entered English as a borrowed pejorative from the common Yiddish insult, where it is an obscene term for penis.[1] In his cultural lexicon, The Joys of Yiddish, Leo Rosten lists the Yiddish schmuck as related to the Slovene word, šmok, meaning "a fool, an innocent, a gullible dolt".[verification needed] The Online Etymology Dictionary derives it from the Polish word smok for snake, dragon as an euphemism for "penis".[2]
IIRC, the Yiddish term for 'penis' is 'petzel'. A little boy never has his schmuck circumcised, but his petzel.
| 854 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:57:07pm |
re: #847 Creeping Eruption
I usually don't jump into these little skirmishes, but I ask that you refrain from using the word "tard." It adds nothing and offends much.
What do you expect from someone who argues like a 6 year old. Cut him some slack.
////
| 855 |
Lynn B. Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:57:20pm |
re: #782 _RememberTonyC
Here's one for Charles .....
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
Lance Armstrong is within one second of the Tour de France lead. Lance just never looks right unless he is wearing a yellow jersey.
I was hoping someone would bring this up. Was hoping for a thread.
I was thinking that if Lance had wanted to be wearing yellow tonight, he would be. He was the fifth rider in so it was his time that counted. But he says he was disappointed.
I watched the rerun this afternoon. They said the time to beat was 46:29:43. He came in at 46:29:32. So someone made a mistake.
| 856 |
Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:57:25pm |
Lunch. It's almost two, and my blood sugar just crashed.
When the little numbers start dancing before my eyes, I clearly need some food.
| 857 |
hous bin pharteen Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:57:29pm |
re: #778 Beach Lover
But he has such lovely hair.
No one ever questions the coleges why nut jobs become college profs. Whats next? Osoma Bin Laden gets a job at Yale, Princeton, or the Univ of Chicago?
| 858 |
LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:57:32pm |
re: #822 hous bin pharteen
These assholes will stop at nothing to get her to not run. It just goes to show how crooked the libs are.
I'd love to see someone sue the dogshit out of them. Just to be fair, of course.
| 859 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:57:32pm |
| 860 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:57:45pm |
| 861 |
BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:57:58pm |
re: #853 Gang of One
IIRC, the Yiddish term for 'penis' is 'petzel'. A little boy never has his schmuck circumcised, but his petzel.
petzel rod?
| 862 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:58:19pm |
re: #845 buzzsawmonkey
You need to get the real stuff. Gefilte fish in a jar is nasty. Home-cooked gefilte fish--you can buy it frozen and bake it or boil it--is superb.
Same goes for matzo. Once you have experienced the down-home wheaty goodness of shmura matzo, the machine-made stuff doesn't cut it.
when I was a kid, my late grandmother made her own gefilte fish, chopped liver, and chopped herring. nothing I ever bought can compare. She also cooked tongue and sliced it up herself.
| 863 |
SixDegrees Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:58:26pm |
re: #743 doppelganglander
How about some good news? Ward Churchill is NOT entitled to get his job back.
Churchill, waving a rubber tomahawk, responded to the ruling by saying, "Me heap pissed off. How me get wampum now? Great White Fathers in Washington gonna hear about this!"
| 864 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:58:30pm |
re: #841 WinterCat
I read 2 years in Alaska.
Zane has filed complaints about Palin before.And these are the people who are behind much of the dirt thrown at Palin during the campaign. It includes one Republican who became an Independent after the election...hmmm
They need better hobbies.
| 866 |
haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:58:36pm |
re: #834 doppelganglander
He/she/it is impervious to correction. I can't believe anyone is stupid enough to argue his point in a room full of people who know Yiddish.
And yet people keep right on arguing with it. Who's stupid?
| 867 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:58:36pm |
anyway, I win. let's get back to how this started and wrap this up:
firstly, someone said mensch was a yiddish word, i corrected them and said it was a german word in existence well before. once again, I am correct.
second of all, sarah palin is not a mensch. she has yet to demonstrate any kind of humanitarian qualities that i would attribute to a mensch. a mensch would be somebody who bridges the bipartisan gap in this country. she however, has done the opposite of that.
ok, i think that wraps up the questions that got this convo started. any questions? linguistics? history? politics? how to tie your shoes?
| 868 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:58:47pm |
re: #823 SpaceJesus
mensch carries the same meaning in both yiddish and german, so you stand corrected.
Try Putz, Putz.
| 869 |
Beach Lover Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:58:51pm |
re: #857 hous bin pharteen
But he has such lovely hair.
No one ever questions the coleges why nut jobs become college profs. Whats next? Osoma Bin Laden gets a job at Yale, Princeton, or the Univ of Chicago?
Quiet! Dont give them any ideas!
| 870 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:59:32pm |
re: #842 Walter L. Newton
You're correct, it derived from Polish...
Schmuck is most often used in American English as a pejorative or insult, meaning an obnoxious or contemptible person; one who is stupid, foolish, or detestable.
Schmuck entered English as a borrowed pejorative from the common Yiddish insult, where it is an obscene term for penis.[1] In his cultural lexicon, The Joys of Yiddish, Leo Rosten lists the Yiddish schmuck as related to the Slovene word, šmok, meaning "a fool, an innocent, a gullible dolt".[verification needed] The Online Etymology Dictionary derives it from the Polish word smok for snake, dragon as an euphemism for "penis".[2]
my good jewish friend told me it mean uncircumsized penis, or somebody who hasn't been cut down there. maybe wikipedia is wrong?
| 872 |
pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:59:41pm |
re: #867 SpaceJesus
Yake yer bipartisan BS and put it where the sun don't shine!
| 873 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 1:59:49pm |
re: #853 Gang of One
IIRC, the Yiddish term for 'penis' is 'petzel'. A little boy never has his schmuck circumcised, but his petzel.
What this all does show is that SpaceJesus' doesn't know shit about Yiddish versus German versus the whole plethora of European languages and the variants in usage.
| 877 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:00:59pm |
re: #855 Lynn B.
I was hoping someone would bring this up. Was hoping for a thread.
I was thinking that if Lance had wanted to be wearing yellow tonight, he would be. He was the fifth rider in so it was his time that counted. But he says he was disappointed.
I watched the rerun this afternoon. They said the time to beat was 46:29:43. He came in at 46:29:32. So someone made a mistake.
Lance kicks butt in the mountain stages ... that's when he shows his grit.
| 878 |
albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:01:15pm |
re: #852 Sharmuta
I agree. For me that line is the balanced budget amendment. Can't support it like in 1994? Buh-bye.
yep...it's do or die right there...we must show some spending responsibility and a willingness to start cleaning up our energy mess...any judge that allows endless litigation preventing a nuclear power plant is dismissed and replaced....it's going to call for some draconian measures to bail this country out
| 879 |
MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:01:25pm |
re: #839 SpaceJesus
schmuck isn't german, 'tard.
Wow, that's a great way to maintain integrity in an argument. Offending people. Brilliant.
/////////////////
| 880 |
Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:01:33pm |
re: #854 Walter L. Newton
What do you expect from someone who argues like a 6 year old. Cut him some slack.
////
And we really did fall for his derailing of the original arguments against him. We took him to task for his elitist, snot-nosed detraction of Palin and he decided to play cunning linguist with my use of a Yiddish term way upthread.
| 881 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:01:40pm |
re: #867 SpaceJesus
anyway, I win. let's get back to how this started and wrap this up:
firstly, someone said mensch was a yiddish word, i corrected them and said it was a german word in existence well before. once again, I am correct.
second of all, sarah palin is not a mensch. she has yet to demonstrate any kind of humanitarian qualities that i would attribute to a mensch. a mensch would be somebody who bridges the bipartisan gap in this country. she however, has done the opposite of that.
ok, i think that wraps up the questions that got this convo started. any questions? linguistics? history? politics? how to tie your shoes?
And you said show me a Yiddish word that has a different meaning than the underlying German word, you said it can't be done.
I gave you an example, fetzen, which in German is "rags, tattered" and in Yiddish it refers to a FART.
Fart.
| 882 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:01:47pm |
re: #853 Gang of One
IIRC, the Yiddish term for 'penis' is 'petzel'. A little boy never has his schmuck circumcised, but his petzel.
what about his schmekel?
| 883 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:02:20pm |
re: #880 Gang of One
And we really did fall for his derailing of the original arguments against him. We took him to task for his elitist, snot-nosed detraction of Palin and he decided to play cunning linguist with my use of a Yiddish term way upthread.
You're on a punny roll today.
| 884 |
Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:02:22pm |
| 885 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:02:25pm |
re: #860 MandyManners
*WHACK*
I bet you called Trig that word.
does bill watterson know that you have taken his cartoon and made it stupid
| 886 |
_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:02:56pm |
re: #871 buzzsawmonkey
Sounds tasty. My grandmother made pickles which I have missed for over 40 years.
half sours, no doubt!
| 887 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:02:58pm |
re: #835 buzzsawmonkey
Most people don't go tripping merrily, week to week, through Exotic World Poetry. It is a gross intellectual pretension, which the article rightly skewers--both because it is evidence of a tyro attempting to parade his nonexistent intellectual credentials, and because it shows Obama's pathetic eagerness to prove he is a Citizen of the World.
I'm sorry, but this makes no sense whatsoever. If Obama actually does read these things, and I see no reason to suggest he does not, how is that "an intellectual pretension" and at the same time evidence of 'nonexistent intellectual credentials"?
The guy has read Pushkin (he did go to Columbia) and he's read Urdu poetry (he had Pakistani friends). Big deal.
It's ridiculous to be attacking Obama for being well-read, and attacking him for having read these things only fosters the (false) impression that the GOP and conservatism is the party of anti-intellectualism.
If you want to attack something, attack Obama on real issues, or attack the MSM for covering his reading habits. Attacking him simply for being wellread is a bad move.
| 888 |
Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:02:59pm |
re: #883 Walter L. Newton
You're on a punny roll today.
I merely emulate the masters here, good sir.
| 889 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:03:51pm |
re: #888 Gang of One
I merely emulate the masters here, good sir.
SpaceJesus still won't address my question about the word fetzen.
| 890 |
yochanan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:04:45pm |
re: #867 SpaceJesus
der space cowboy zuggen nariskite
a bisalah skuar zuggen a vart mit dien kup stuppen der touckas luk.
| 891 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:05:05pm |
re: #885 SpaceJesus
does bill watterson know that you have taken his cartoon and made it stupid
I got it off the Internet, asshole.
| 892 |
MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:05:43pm |
re: #889 Walter L. Newton
SpaceJesus still won't address my question about the word fetzen.
Well, according to him, he "won"...
...who does that remind me of in this context?
| 893 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:06:01pm |
re: #881 Walter L. Newton
And you said show me a Yiddish word that has a different meaning than the underlying German word, you said it can't be done.
I gave you an example, fetzen, which in German is "rags, tattered" and in Yiddish it refers to a FART.
Fart.
haha, it's just a misspelling. the german for farting is furzen (see the resemblance?) they just messed up the spelling is all
| 894 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:06:39pm |
re: #863 SixDegrees
Churchill, waving a rubber tomahawk, responded to the ruling by saying, "Me heap pissed off. How me get wampum now? Great White Fathers in Washington gonna hear about this!"
He need heap firewater!
| 895 |
haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:06:55pm |
re: #852 Sharmuta
I agree. For me that line is the balanced budget amendment. Can't support it like in 1994? Buh-bye.
The Republicans need a mechanism for more draconian Whip action. But the priorities need to be set through something like a new Contract With America--which we have discussed here before.
| 896 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:07:08pm |
re: #893 SpaceJesus
haha, it's just a misspelling. the german for farting is furzen (see the resemblance?) they just messed up the spelling is all
Says who? You, who don't even know yiddish.
| 897 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:07:31pm |
re: #890 yochanan
der space cowboy zuggen nariskite
a bisalah skuar zuggen a vart mit dien kup stuppen der touckas luk.
gott im himmel was hast du mit meinem deutsch getan
| 898 |
Ward Cleaver Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:08:04pm |
Well, whaddaya know? Refreshblocker 0.5 has started working again with Firefox 3.5. Hmmm...
| 899 |
Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:08:05pm |
re: #867 SpaceJesus
anyway, I win. let's get back to how this started and wrap this up:
firstly, someone said mensch was a yiddish word, i corrected them and said it was a german word in existence well before. once again, I am correct.
second of all, sarah palin is not a mensch. she has yet to demonstrate any kind of humanitarian qualities that i would attribute to a mensch. a mensch would be somebody who bridges the bipartisan gap in this country. she however, has done the opposite of that.
ok, i think that wraps up the questions that got this convo started. any questions? linguistics? history? politics? how to tie your shoes?
Excuse me, I commented on it's usage in common Yiddish. Don't put words in my mouth. And you still have no grasp of the usage of the word in Yiddish.
| 900 |
hous bin pharteen Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:08:06pm |
re: #879 MrSilverDragon
Schmuch is semi-ward churchil. Major Asshole sounds better. If I was a student there I would put him on a C130 and drop him off 100 miles east of Atlantic City so he could swim home. It would only cost a keg of beer for the crew.
Bombs away!
| 901 |
SixDegrees Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:08:16pm |
re: #831 SpaceJesus
nice one. despite its spelling, it actually isn't german in origin at all though.
Actually, it is.
| 902 |
Sharmuta Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:08:40pm |
re: #895 haakondahl
The Republicans need a mechanism for more draconian Whip action. But the priorities need to be set through something like a new Contract With America--which we have discussed here before.
And the BBA was a part of the Contract. Making fiscal conservatism the centerpiece of the GOP has always worked. I think it will work again.
| 903 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:08:45pm |
re: #896 Walter L. Newton
Says who? You, who don't even know yiddish.
it's a common thing, like alouette said. the phonetic spelling is all weird, that's why it looks different. furzen is just a corrupt spelling and pronunciation of the german word furzen.
| 904 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:09:23pm |
re: #901 SixDegrees
Actually, it is.
uh no, it isn't. schmuck is polish or something like somebody else pointed out
| 905 |
haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:10:07pm |
re: #889 Walter L. Newton
SpaceJesus still won't address my question about the word fetzen.
And truly, that is the purpose of this blog.
| 906 |
MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:11:41pm |
re: #905 haakondahl
And truly, that is the purpose of this blog.
Dangit all, I missed the point again! I gotta pay attention!
| 907 |
haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:11:48pm |
re: #880 Gang of One
And we really did fall for his derailing of the original arguments against him. We took him to task for his elitist, snot-nosed detraction of Palin and he decided to play cunning linguist with my use of a Yiddish term way upthread.
Yup.
| 908 |
SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:12:59pm |
re: #45 LGoPs
Reine - how do you reconcile Palin's readiness for office with Obama's even thinner credentials? I'm not attacking you and I'm almost certain you didn't support Obama. It just seems to me that once Obama got a pass, that issue should be off the table.
Again, not arguing, just curious.
Not arguing, but once Obama 'got a pass', why should it be off the table? A mistake is a mistake, not a reason to make more. As a Democrat, I don't want my party to ever again run a nominee with such a skimpy fiscal and foreign policy record ever again, and I certainly don't want to see a Republican candidate with Palin's apparent lack of knowledge and experience.
| 909 |
avanti Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:14:01pm |
OK, here's the Gallup poll on Palin we were discussing that polls her support.
| 910 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:14:09pm |
re: #870 SpaceJesus
my good jewish friend told me it mean uncircumsized penis, or somebody who hasn't been cut down there. maybe wikipedia is wrong?
You have no clue.
And if you have a good friend, which I seriously doubt, then he/she is even stupider than you.
| 911 |
SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:14:38pm |
re: #904 SpaceJesus
uh no, it isn't. schmuck is polish or something like somebody else pointed out
Schmuck is a German word meaning 'jewel' or 'ornament'. In Yiddish slang, it means 'penis' (think 'family jewels'), or 'jerk' (think 'dick'). And so it passed into English...
| 912 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:14:56pm |
re: #903 SpaceJesus
it's a common thing, like alouette said. the phonetic spelling is all weird, that's why it looks different. furzen is just a corrupt spelling and pronunciation of the german word furzen.
i meant to say fetze
| 913 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:15:32pm |
re: #897 SpaceJesus
gott im himmel was hast du mit meinem deutsch getan
Why don't you shtek you fucking deutsch right up your tuches?
| 914 |
pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:16:26pm |
This like a train wreck. I can't stop myself from watching!
| 915 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:17:15pm |
re: #910 Spare O'Lake
You have no clue.
And if you have a good friend, which I seriously doubt, then he/she is even stupider than you.
seeing as how I asked this friend to ask her mother who is polish and survived the holocaust what schmuch meant, I think you can go fuck yourself. I'll trust some one I know for sure knows what they're talking about than some internet moron any day.
| 916 |
SixDegrees Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:18:11pm |
re: #904 SpaceJesus
uh no, it isn't. schmuck is polish or something like somebody else pointed out
German didn't spring forth from the vacuum. Like all languages, it has a long, tangled history. 'Schmuck' is firmly planted in the German language; attempting to claim it isn't German by citing even deeper origins is stupid and pointless, and attempt to move the goalposts into a whole other county. Had someone claimed 'schmuck' was of Polish origin, you would then foolishly claim that no, he was wrong, and chase it even further into some even more distant Indo-European root, and beyond if necessary.
Meanwhile, back here in reality, 'schmuck' is solidly ensconced in the German language, making your claim so much dreck.
| 917 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:18:37pm |
re: #913 Spare O'Lake
Why don't you shtek you fucking deutsch right up your tuches?
oh my, zat zounds so zexy ja? you vant make zexy party mit der spacejesus ja? oontz oontz oontz oh ja! zexyparty time!
| 918 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:19:58pm |
re: #916 SixDegrees
German didn't spring forth from the vacuum. Like all languages, it has a long, tangled history. 'Schmuck' is firmly planted in the German language; attempting to claim it isn't German by citing even deeper origins is stupid and pointless, and attempt to move the goalposts into a whole other county. Had someone claimed 'schmuck' was of Polish origin, you would then foolishly claim that no, he was wrong, and chase it even further into some even more distant Indo-European root, and beyond if necessary.
Meanwhile, back here in reality, 'schmuck' is solidly ensconced in the German language, making your claim so much dreck.
look, schmuck may look german because of its spelling, but it is rooted in polish and slavic language. here:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
it isn't german at all.
| 919 |
Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:20:33pm |
re: #915 SpaceJesus
seeing as how I asked this friend to ask her mother who is polish and survived the holocaust what schmuch meant, I think you can go fuck yourself. I'll trust some one I know for sure knows what they're talking about than some internet moron any day.
That so-called 'internet moron' actually exists right here and now. You invent a survivor [as if being a survivor was the only qualification for knowing Yiddish] who can't be fact-checked. You are a real piece of work, my friend.
| 920 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:21:30pm |
re: #897 SpaceJesus
gott im himmel was hast du mit meinem deutsch getan
וויפיל מאל דארף מען דיר זוגן אז אידיש שרייבט מען ניט מיט די לאטיינישע עותיות
ריבונו של עולם וואס פאר אן עזעל האט מען דא
| 921 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:22:05pm |
re: #909 avanti
OK, here's the Gallup poll on Palin we were discussing that polls her support.
Thanks for posting that; I was just about to look for it.
It looks roughly like what I would have expected: 19% very likely to vote for her (slightly less than the percentage of people who currently still identify as hardcore Republicans, in other words), and 24% somewhat likely, with 41% not at all likely. Certainly shows she's a polarising figure, which isn't news, and that in general the resignation hasn't shifted anyone's opinion: those who love her still love her, those who dislike her still dislike her.
This part is interesting though:
Polls conducted entirely in one day, such as this one, are subject to additional error or bias not found in polls conducted over several days.
Also it was conducted on the 6th, in a way I think that might have been too soon to measure the impact, esp as it happened over a holiday weekend. Lots of people here didn't even know about the resignation til they cane back from the weekend.
It will be interesting to see what a poll released at the end of the month shows, conducted over a few days.
| 922 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:24:46pm |
re: #919 Gang of One
That so-called 'internet moron' actually exists right here and now. You invent a survivor [as if being a survivor was the only qualification for knowing Yiddish] who can't be fact-checked. You are a real piece of work, my friend.
it's my friend's mom. like I said, that is where I got my info, why the hell would I lie about the meaning of schmuck? it's a derogatory word aimed at the penis. I could honestly care less about it, but when my friend's mother who speaks polish, hebrew and yiddish says it relates to circumsizing, I believe it. I'm just telling you what I heard, jackass.
| 923 |
Spare O'Lake Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:25:21pm |
re: #915 SpaceJesus
seeing as how I asked this friend to ask her mother who is polish and survived the holocaust what schmuch meant, I think you can go fuck yourself. I'll trust some one I know for sure knows what they're talking about than some internet moron any day.
Oh so now you change your lie to blame your stupid friend's Polish mother for not knowing what a schmuck is?
You could have saved your friend and her mother a lot of trouble, and simply looked in the mirror - and you would have seen a big stupid schmuck with ears.
You, my friend, are a ligner.
| 925 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:25:29pm |
re: #920 Alouette
וויפיל מאל דארף מען דיר זוגן אז אידיש שרייבט מען ניט מיט די לאטייני& #1513;ע עותיות
ריבונו של עולם וואס פאר אן עזעל האט מען דא
what are these little drawings
| 926 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:26:28pm |
re: #918 SpaceJesus
look, schmuck may look german because of its spelling, but it is rooted in polish and slavic language. here:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
it isn't german at all.
Cassell's German/English Dictionary:
Schmuck, m. ornament, decoration, adornment, finery; jewels, jewelry, ornaments, trinkets. schmuck, adj. spruce, tidy, trim, neat, smart, dapper, spick and span; pretty, nice.
What's it doing in a German dictionary if it's not a German word, schmuck?
גיי קאקן אויפן ים
| 927 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:27:29pm |
re: #923 Spare O'Lake
Oh so now you change your lie to blame your stupid friend's Polish mother for not knowing what a schmuck is?
You could have saved your friend and her mother a lot of trouble, and simply looked in the mirror - and you would have seen a big stupid schmuck with ears.
You, my friend, are a ligner.
I never changed anything, i said right from the get go that i thought schmuck meant uncircumsized penis, and i thought that because a friend's mom who speaks yiddish and hebrew told me that years ago. guess what? i still believe her too.
| 928 |
Vicious Babushka Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:27:41pm |
| 930 |
yochanan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:28:13pm |
yiddish is written in the bebrew alef beit that in of itself would make it a sept lang. give us a break
| 931 |
Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:29:26pm |
re: #920 Alouette
וויפיל מאל דארף מען דיר זוגן אז אידיש שרייבט מען ניט מיט די לאטיינ&# x05D9;שע עותיות
ריבונו של עולם וואס פאר אן עזעל האט מען דא
"How many times is it needed to tell you that Yiddish is not written with the Latin [characters]. Master of the universe, what kind of an ass do we have here."
That SpaceFetze, was translated by a real Yiddish speaker a few feet away from me. She grew up in Mexico City.
Pendejo.
| 932 |
blueherron Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:31:01pm |
re: #523 MrSilverDragon
So, blueherron, you disagree with my assessment that Barack Obama is a dangerous dumbass... care to offer a rebuttal?
OK. You caught me. I've been reading here for several months. Let me get this out of the way first, I voted for Obama. I voted for Bush both times. I would be considered a true independent
I grew more and more disenchanted with the administration (not so much Bush himself) as Bush's second term and the Iraq war dragged on. I started reading blogs. All the "mainstream" blogs (MSB), left and right.
I would have voted for McCain if he had beat Bush when they ran . I didn't vote for McCain in this election because I believe Obama was and is the best possible choice for our country at this time. Also, McCain has changed a lot since 2000. And frankly, his choice of Palin was a deal breaker for many independents.
Since the election, I've cut my political blog reading to LGF and The Huffington Post. (I also read The Beast, which is fairly balanced). I read these blogs because they're the most interesting and thought-provoking and the posters are good writers. Most everything else about politics I get from the MSM. I can't listen to Rush; but I do watch Glenn Beck and Rachel Maddow.
Finally, in answer to your question. I've been laid off since December and am one of the millions of casualties of this economic disaster. But I know things will get better. Despite all of the criticism and derision and attacks and outright hatred from people who did not vote for him, OBAMA is doing SOMETHING, in fact, he's doing a whole lot of things, and he's not mangling the constitution at the same time. Imagine!
So I dinged you down for calling Obama a dangerous dumbass. Because he's not and I sometimes get fed up with the level of discourse. I never post because in my fragile, unemployed state, your responses would have me in the fetal position. So I let Kilgore Trout and Avanti do all the heavy lifting and I upding them whenever I can.
One thing I did notice on this thread is, whenever I tried to downding someone, they got two extra updings; so I'm thinking someone was on to me.
| 933 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:31:17pm |
re: #926 Alouette
Cassell's German/English Dictionary:
Schmuck, m. ornament, decoration, adornment, finery; jewels, jewelry, ornaments, trinkets. schmuck, adj. spruce, tidy, trim, neat, smart, dapper, spick and span; pretty, nice.
What's it doing in a German dictionary if it's not a German word, schmuck?
גיי קאקן אויפן ים
you are fucking dense. schmuck is a german word you tool.
the yiddish word you are using is actually šmok which comes from polish. not my fault jews messed up the spelling to make it look german.
| 934 |
Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:32:14pm |
re: #927 SpaceJesus
I never changed anything, i said right from the get go that i thought schmuck meant uncircumsized penis, and i thought that because a friend's mom who speaks yiddish and hebrew told me that years ago. guess what? i still believe her too.
And my own father tells me there is no word for 'uncircumcised penis' in Yiddish. A putz is schmuck is a schmekel is a schwantz is a petzel. Jackass.
| 935 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:32:32pm |
re: #932 blueherron
...
One thing I did notice on this thread is, whenever I tried to downding someone, they got two extra updings; so I'm thinking someone was on to me.
And i'm thinking you give yourself way too much credit.
| 936 |
JustABill Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:35:10pm |
re: #662 _RememberTonyC
I enjoy casino gambling, but would never gamble online, even with a US based casino. Sitting at the computer gambling strikes me as something that is completely anti-social. But I guess there are plenty of anti-social types out there that are dying to give their money away. I don't get it at all.
Unfortunately, or fortunately, depending upon you point of view, not all of us have a casino withen easy reach. The closest one to me is 6+ hours away by car(Atlantic City). There are a few places closer, but they are slots only...
I occasionally play online, but not for money. Between not trusting an offshore company, and the US Government doing everything it can to prevent me from sending money to/getting money from online gambling sites, its just not worth the hassle...
| 937 |
yochanan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:35:20pm |
re: #934 Gang of One
i think space cowboy might become the lgf word for uncut smuck for sure.
| 941 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:39:00pm |
re: #924 buzzsawmonkey
Also, by the way, people who do actually read Pushkin or Urdu poets for pleasure tend to do so at intervals, interspersed with something a little lighter. The tracer-bullet succession of Great Works betrays, to anyone familiar with people who read, that this library list is a fraud.
Why do you assume that Obama hasn't interspersed his reading with lighter material?
In none of the statements I've seen about this has it ever been mentioned *when* Obama last read Urdu poets, or Pushkin, or anything else. Why are you assuming that he's claiming he read them all just this week? (or whenever).
If you are a reader, or you're around readers, you know that a reader is drawing on a lifetime of reading, ranging over all sorts of subjects and authors, some light and some not.
Your personal dislike of Obama is colouring your judgement and perceptions.
| 942 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:44:11pm |
*winner*
gotta catch the train. it's been fun. keep on voting for sarah palin and her future running mate joe the plumber lgf! servus!
| 943 |
Gang of One Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:45:02pm |
| 944 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:45:50pm |
re: #932 blueherron
I updinged you. I wish you'd post more. Good luck with your jobhunting, btw.
PS I hoped McCain would win the nom in 2000 too.
PPS You probably saw HuffPo just hired Dan Froomkin, who was the only liberal blogger/columnist who consistently criticised Obama from the left at the WaPo (the WaPo canned him last week). He's excellent. I'm not a fan of HuffPo but I'll be reading him.
PPPS. Agree with you on the Daily Beast
| 946 |
WinterCat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:50:32pm |
re: #932 blueherron
I voted for Obama. and right.
Finally, in answer to your question. I've been laid off since December and am one of the millions of casualties of this economic disaster.
OBAMA is doing SOMETHING, in fact, he's doing a whole lot of things
Sorry you voted for Obama. Sorry you lost your job too. Obama is doing many things. Most of them are bad for the economy. He doesn't have to do anything to mangle the constitution. That will be up to his Supreme Court pick.
| 947 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:51:37pm |
re: #944 iceweasel
I updinged you. I wish you'd post more. Good luck with your jobhunting, btw.
PS I hoped McCain would win the nom in 2000 too.
PPS You probably saw HuffPo just hired Dan Froomkin, who was the only liberal blogger/columnist who consistently criticised Obama from the left at the WaPo (the WaPo canned him last week). He's excellent. I'm not a fan of HuffPo but I'll be reading him.
PPPS. Agree with you on the Daily Beast
Well, I didn't downding him, I save my downdings for more important things.
But if I had, I would have downdinged for this:
So I dinged you down for calling Obama a dangerous dumbass. Because he's not and I sometimes get fed up with the level of discourse. I never post because in my fragile, unemployed state, your responses would have me in the fetal position. So I let Kilgore Trout and Avanti do all the heavy lifting and I upding them whenever I can.
He can't post in his "fragile" state, and try to convince or persuade others to up their level of discourse. So he downdings, then expresses contempt for another person's opinion, and states that he's "fed up".
He should get a backbone, use his skills of persuasion, rather than sitting on the sidelines in "a fetal position".
Good grief..
| 948 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:53:36pm |
re: #945 buzzsawmonkey
Because the Announcements of his Current Important Reading have followed hard and fast upon each other
He was in Pakistan, now he's in Russia. The Urdu poetry came up in a conversation with a Pakistani reporter. I assume the Pushkin came up because he's in Russia.
No conspiracy here, just a well-read guy making allusions when appropriate-- and btw, to audiences that would certainly be able to bust him if he were faking it.
| 949 |
MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:55:34pm |
re: #932 blueherron
OK. You caught me. I've been reading here for several months. Let me get this out of the way first, I voted for Obama. I voted for Bush both times. I would be considered a true independent
I grew more and more disenchanted with the administration (not so much Bush himself) as Bush's second term and the Iraq war dragged on. I started reading blogs. All the "mainstream" blogs (MSB), left and right.I would have voted for McCain if he had beat Bush when they ran . I didn't vote for McCain in this election because I believe Obama was and is the best possible choice for our country at this time. Also, McCain has changed a lot since 2000. And frankly, his choice of Palin was a deal breaker for many independents.
Since the election, I've cut my political blog reading to LGF and The Huffington Post. (I also read The Beast, which is fairly balanced). I read these blogs because they're the most interesting and thought-provoking and the posters are good writers. Most everything else about politics I get from the MSM. I can't listen to Rush; but I do watch Glenn Beck and Rachel Maddow.
Finally, in answer to your question. I've been laid off since December and am one of the millions of casualties of this economic disaster. But I know things will get better. Despite all of the criticism and derision and attacks and outright hatred from people who did not vote for him, OBAMA is doing SOMETHING, in fact, he's doing a whole lot of things, and he's not mangling the constitution at the same time. Imagine!
So I dinged you down for calling Obama a dangerous dumbass. Because he's not and I sometimes get fed up with the level of discourse. I never post because in my fragile, unemployed state, your responses would have me in the fetal position. So I let Kilgore Trout and Avanti do all the heavy lifting and I upding them whenever I can.
One thing I did notice on this thread is, whenever I tried to downding someone, they got two extra updings; so I'm thinking someone was on to me.
I appreciate the answer. We shall have to disagree. I currently see a president that was influenced by many very negative persons and personalities (Bill Ayers "guilty as sin free as a bird", Rev. Wright "god damn America"), who would like to turn this country socialist, and prefers to snub allies and attempt to cozy up to our enemies which constantly call for our deaths, often with apologies for historical events which have long passed.
I see that as being dangerous, and the latter part being incredibly stupid. I leave that as my argument on the matter.
| 951 |
blueherron Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:57:30pm |
re: #941 iceweasel
Thank you. Your posts pretty much convey what I think most of the time. Of the two people in the world who would have read Urdu poets and Pushkin, Obama would be one of them.
| 952 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:02:42pm |
re: #947 reine.de.tout
I don't downding at all, generally, unless it's the sort of thing that is so extreme it gets people banned. Even if the person in question downdings me all the time.
I think downdinging often leads to resentments and arguments and some people use it as a weapon to punish people they don't like, regardless of the content of what that person posted. I'd rather avoid all of that, personally.
I'll upding people who say things I disagree with, if I think the point was particularly well-made or cogent. I'll upding even for jokes made at my own expense, if they made me laugh.
But everyone has their own policy of how the ding system works for them, as it should be.
I'm inclined to be sympathetic to someone who has a minority viewpoint here who doesn't feel up to taking the heat, because sometimes it can get a little rough, and not every lizard is always nice or fair. Fortunately those are in the minority-- but I know it can be tough to deal with, sometimes.
| 953 |
Rancher Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:02:56pm |
re: #737 taxfreekiller
On language:
Some one needs to inform Pres. Obama of the word...NO.
It would help the national debt if he had a clue on that one word.
No? Yes we can!
| 955 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:03:52pm |
re: #950 buzzsawmonkey
I love watching little birds craning their gaping beaks to swallow the predigested worms being crammed down their throats.
The fact that you're now reduced to insults says more about your losing position than anything else I could say. Thank you.
| 957 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:07:32pm |
re: #951 blueherron
Thank you. Your posts pretty much convey what I think most of the time. Of the two people in the world who would have read Urdu poets and Pushkin, Obama would be one of them.
Cool, thanks. You should post more! Or try to. The people here are great.
And exactly, it's no surprise to me that Obama read both of those. He had a liberal arts education at Columbia; pushkin would be on the list. And he's said he read Urdu poetry because of his Pakistani roommate. This really isn't as outrageously strange as people seem to think. Frankly I suspect it betrays their own lack of depth in reading more than anything else.
| 958 |
haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:08:19pm |
re: #951 blueherron
Thank you. Your posts pretty much convey what I think most of the time. Of the two people in the world who would have read Urdu poets and Pushkin, Obama would be one of them.
Cue Highlander music.
| 959 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:10:50pm |
| 960 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:11:41pm |
re: #952 iceweasel
I don't downding at all, generally, unless it's the sort of thing that is so extreme it gets people banned. Even if the person in question downdings me all the time.
I think downdinging often leads to resentments and arguments and some people use it as a weapon to punish people they don't like, regardless of the content of what that person posted. I'd rather avoid all of that, personally.
I'll upding people who say things I disagree with, if I think the point was particularly well-made or cogent. I'll upding even for jokes made at my own expense, if they made me laugh.
But everyone has their own policy of how the ding system works for them, as it should be.
I'm inclined to be sympathetic to someone who has a minority viewpoint here who doesn't feel up to taking the heat, because sometimes it can get a little rough, and not every lizard is always nice or fair. Fortunately those are in the minority-- but I know it can be tough to deal with, sometimes.
I sort of have the same "ding" philosophy you do.
But iceweasel - as far as it being "rough" - the thing to do is persuade people, not, imo, start throwing out insults in what must have been that person's first ever post.
You and I have disagreed, but I don't think we've ever insulted each other.
It can be done.
| 961 |
Salem Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:13:09pm |
Finally, a thread about Al Gore comparing global warming to nazis! About time!
Haha, no, just kidding...
| 962 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:16:45pm |
re: #960 reine.de.tout
I sort of have the same "ding" philosophy you do.
But iceweasel - as far as it being "rough" - the thing to do is persuade people, not, imo, start throwing out insults in what must have been that person's first ever post.
You and I have disagreed, but I don't think we've ever insulted each other.
It can be done.
I'm sure we've never insulted each other. I don't think you ever insult people that I've ever seen. I *do* insult people at times, I admit, but you'd never be one of them. You and I have a lot of common ground in many ways, and I respect you even when I disagree with you.
| 963 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:18:47pm |
re: #956 buzzsawmonkey
I was merely describing a phenomenon.
So was I. The phenomenon whereby someone's reduced to sputtering because he's got no argument left. :)
Have a nice day.
| 964 |
haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:20:27pm |
re: #959 iceweasel
Ok, that made me laugh.
(I love that movie)
Now if The One can just find out who the other is, we'll finally see MJ off the screen once and for all!
| 966 |
Lynn B. Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:25:10pm |
re: #946 WinterCat
Sorry you voted for Obama. Sorry you lost your job too. Obama is doing many things. Most of them are bad for the economy.
Exactly right.
He doesn't have to do anything to mangle the constitution.
That will be up to his Supreme Court pick.
He'll need more than one. And he'll have to replace one of the ones who don't already swing his way.
| 967 |
Lynn B. Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:27:40pm |
I take a few days off and come back to ...
Anyone know what happened to Space J? There was a huge improvement for a while in attitude, coherence and civility and now ... off the rails again.
Someone above (I think it was Reine) suggested that maybe we're dealing with more than one person here. Dunno. Sad.
| 968 |
jvic Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:33:08pm |
re: #921 iceweasel
It looks roughly like what I would have expected: 19% very likely to vote for her (slightly less than the percentage of people who currently still identify as hardcore Republicans, in other words), and 24% somewhat likely, with 41% not at all likely. Certainly shows she's a polarising figure, which isn't news, and that in general the resignation hasn't shifted anyone's opinion: those who love her still love her, those who dislike her still dislike her.
Also 13% 'not too likely' to vote for her.
Win the nomination, lose the election?
re: #280 ShanghaiEd
A reporter asks Palin how she would handle such attacks if she were in the White House:Department of law? "Automatically" throw them out?
She uses 'department of law' again in her Time interview. (Apologies if it's been posted. I'm just passing by and haven't read all 900+ comments.) This really caught my eye:
...It's that our administration is so stymied and paralyzed because of a political game that has been chosen to be played by critics who have discovered loopholes in the ethics reform that I championed that allows them to continually, continually bombard the state with frivolous ethics-violation charges, with lawsuits, with these fishing expeditions.
She admits she championed flawed legislation and it doesn't seem to bother her.
I never doubted that there was real content behind Reagan's informal tone and teflon coating. With Palin, I do.
| 969 |
haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:33:49pm |
re: #967 Lynn B.
I take a few days off and come back to ...
Anyone know what happened to Space J? There was a huge improvement for a while in attitude, coherence and civility and now ... off the rails again.
Someone above (I think it was Reine) suggested that maybe we're dealing with more than one person here. Dunno. Sad.
Perhaps that one is an argumentative drunk. No clue, of course, just going by past experience with odd posters.
| 970 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:44:39pm |
re: #968 jvic
Also 13% 'not too likely' to vote for her.
Win the nomination, lose the election?
That's what I would think. But I think she'd have a better chance of winning the nom of a third party. The GOP establishment really does not like her. But who can say what will happen 3 years from now?
She uses 'department of law' again in her Time interview.
In fairness, AK does have a 'department of law'. No-one knows what she meant when claiming the WH has one though (perhaps the Office of Legal Counsel?). In any case, there is no body that has to power to simply squash allegations against the POTUS in the way she seems to suggest.
She admits she championed flawed legislation and it doesn't seem to bother her.
I never doubted that there was real content behind Reagan's informal tone and teflon coating. With Palin, I do.
Completely agree with you on Palin v Reagan. There's nothing wrong with an informal tone per se, and it doesn't indicate that the person lacks substance.
I just don't see the substance in Palin.
| 971 |
blueherron Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:53:45pm |
re: #960 reine.de.tout
As much as you hated it, please reread my post (yes, my first). There was no "contempt expressed." It was written in response to Mr. Silver Dragon (who called me out on a downding.) He didn't take my downding or post as an insult, based on his subsequent post. My downding was based on disagreement with and distate for the use of the phrase, "dangerous dumbass" to describe Obama.
Let's not argue about how one should use their updinging and downdinging capabilities. It's totally subjective. And actually I had no idea upding and downdinging was such a hot button. Is there a prize for the most updings or punishment for downdings?
| 972 |
sagehen Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:38:28pm |
re: #948 iceweasel
He was in Pakistan, now he's in Russia. The Urdu poetry came up in a conversation with a Pakistani reporter. I assume the Pushkin came up because he's in Russia.
No conspiracy here, just a well-read guy making allusions when appropriate-- and btw, to audiences that would certainly be able to bust him if he were faking it.
My guess would be that when preparing for the Russia trip, he asked someone at the state department to recommend something cultural as part of his prep. Pushkin works are much shorter than anything Dostoevsky ever did.
Even if poetry translations miss some of the nuance... Obama has said in the past that he studied black preachers because he has a thing for the rhythm of public speaking (which is also apparent in his own speeches). Russian poetry is famous for being better aloud than written, the Obamas hosted a poetry slam at the White House a few months ago, it wouldn't surprise me at all if it's something he was excited to be exposed to. Spoken word art is one of his geeky hobbies.
(Laura Bush, on the other hand, strikes me as someone who'd be more likely to ask for ballet tickets. George would attend the ballet to accomodate Laura, but he'd be more impressed with the onion domes).
| 973 |
capitalist piglet Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:40:41pm |
re: #941 iceweasel
Why do you assume that Obama hasn't interspersed his reading with lighter material?
In none of the statements I've seen about this has it ever been mentioned *when* Obama last read Urdu poets, or Pushkin, or anything else. Why are you assuming that he's claiming he read them all just this week? (or whenever).
If you are a reader, or you're around readers, you know that a reader is drawing on a lifetime of reading, ranging over all sorts of subjects and authors, some light and some not.
Your personal dislike of Obama is colouring your judgement and perceptions.
Colouring. Hmmmmm.
| 974 |
jvic Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:47:35pm |
re: #970 iceweasel
Also 13% 'not too likely' to vote for her.Win the nomination, lose the election?
That's what I would think. But I think she'd have a better chance of winning the nom of a third party...
Ayuh...
...In fairness, AK does have a 'department of law'. No-one knows what she meant when claiming the WH has one though (perhaps the Office of Legal Counsel?). In any case, there is no body that has to power to simply squash allegations against the POTUS in the way she seems to suggest.
Thanks for pointing that out about AK.
I just don't see the substance in Palin.
I try to give her the benefit of the doubt, but...
***********************
Btw, clicking through that time interview brings one to this:
In her first big race, for mayor of Wasilla, Palin was a polarizing figure who introduced issues like abortion and gun control into a mayoral race that had traditionally been contested like a friendly intramural contest...It was always a nonpartisan job," he says. "But with her, the state GOP came in and started affecting the race."Palin often describes that 1996 race as having been a fight against the old boys' club. Stein's memory is different. "It got to the extent that — I don't remember who it was now — but some national antiabortion outfit sent little pink cards to voters in Wasilla endorsing her," he says...
One thing all sides agree on is that the valley was in flux. The old libertarian pioneer ethos was giving way to a rising Christian conservatism. By shrewdly invoking issues that mattered to the ascendant majority, she won the mayor's race...
Apparently Palin is not above using dog whistles.
| 975 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:55:02pm |
re: #967 Lynn B.
I take a few days off and come back to ...
Anyone know what happened to Space J? There was a huge improvement for a while in attitude, coherence and civility and now ... off the rails again.
Someone above (I think it was Reine) suggested that maybe we're dealing with more than one person here. Dunno. Sad.
Lynn B. - I suggested perhaps he/she/it was a "trinity" of people.
It was sort of a joke, but the difference in tone between the SpaceJ I upding, and the SpaceJ I downding, is huge. I would not be at all surprised if there were at least two different people using that nic.
| 976 |
reine.de.tout Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:03:02pm |
re: #971 blueherron
As much as you hated it, please reread my post (yes, my first). There was no "contempt expressed." It was written in response to Mr. Silver Dragon (who called me out on a downding.) He didn't take my downding or post as an insult, based on his subsequent post. My downding was based on disagreement with and distate for the use of the phrase, "dangerous dumbass" to describe Obama.
Let's not argue about how one should use their updinging and downdinging capabilities. It's totally subjective. And actually I had no idea upding and downdinging was such a hot button. Is there a prize for the most updings or punishment for downdings?
I'm not arguing about how to use the ding system. I don't care how you use it. I don't care that you downdinged me. I did not go back and ding you because of it, altho some would have.
My issue - or perhaps, my suggestion - please come on board and post some, let everyone get to know you and where you stand, before you start beating up others for the words they use. It will not be easy. You will probably have to show more patience that others show you. It will pay off in the end.
And this:
One thing I did notice on this thread is, whenever I tried to downding someone, they got two extra updings; so I'm thinking someone was on to me.
Since it appears that you made your first ever post on this thread, why in the world would you think anyone was "on to" you? Could it not be, possibly, that people updinged who you downdinged because they agree? Why did that idea seem to be such a stretch that you assumed it was you that people were "on to"? Just seemed strange, to me.
| 977 |
sagehen Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:20:14pm |
I haven't up or downdinged anyone yet (I suppose I should start soon), but I have questions.
I assume that's what the + and - buttons are, but what's the ! do? And how do you know who rated you how?
| 979 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:45:10pm |
re: #977 sagehen
I haven't up or downdinged anyone yet (I suppose I should start soon), but I have questions.
I assume that's what the + and - buttons are, but what's the ! do? And how do you know who rated you how?
I think the ! is for flagging a comment. I just updinged you, click on the number next to the + and - signs and a little window will pop up telling you who rated the comment and how they rated it. It will show "iceweasel" under the "plus ratings".
re: #973 capitalist piglet
Colouring. Hmmmmm.
Your point?
| 980 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:51:46pm |
The poll is now being skewed by the Free Republic crowd, because that's what they do.
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
Hence the phrase, "silly Internet poll."
| 981 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:52:16pm |
re: #974 jvic
Apparently Palin is not above using dog whistles.
Wow, you know-- in ref to your linked comment, I *did* see a post somewhere on memeorandum today suggesting Palin would run as a member of the alaskan independence party. That just seemed like such a long shot to me though. Hmmm.....
And thanks for linking that Time interview and the link through as well. I was aware that she'd won the mayoral election by introducing 'dogwhistle' issues into a contest that hadn't relied on them before. It's one of the things that made me a bit leery of her from the beginning. (Once she was nominated that is; I hadn't heard of her before that.)
I try to give her the benefit of the doubt too, but nothing she's done since has dissuaded me from thinking she's someone who thrives on dogwhistles and the like. I think she enjoys the contest of running, to be honest. It's a criticism of Obama that he's in perpetual campaign mode, and I think that has some validity, but I think the same can be said for Palin.
| 982 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 5:55:12pm |
re: #980 Charles
The poll is now being skewed by the Free Republic crowd, because that's what they do.
[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]
Hence the phrase, "silly Internet poll."
Figures. Hence also the phrase "freeping", meaning to deliberately skew an internet poll.
. freep:
To slew or cheat an online poll by repeatedly voting (clearing cookies, using proxies) or to make a blog appear to be commented by numerous posters by the same means. (From the practices of the Free Republic or "freepers")
"The results of the CNN question of the day were running 70:30 in favor until an hour ago when it got freeped."
[Link: www.urbandictionary.com...]
| 983 |
Ayeless in Ghazi Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:06:39pm |
re: #942 SpaceJesus
*winner*
gotta catch the train. it's been fun. keep on voting for sarah palin and her future running mate joe the plumber lgf! servus!
But what if something happened to Sarah Palin while she was president? Would Joe the Plumber be of a suitable calibre to step into her...
sorry, I'm now laughing too hard to complete that sentence.
| 984 |
sagehen Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:08:01pm |
re: #981 iceweasel
And thanks for linking that Time interview and the link through as well. I was aware that she'd won the mayoral election by introducing 'dogwhistle' issues into a contest that hadn't relied on them before. It's one of the things that made me a bit leery of her from the beginning. (Once she was nominated that is; I hadn't heard of her before that.)I try to give her the benefit of the doubt too, but nothing she's done since has dissuaded me from thinking she's someone who thrives on dogwhistles and the like. I think she enjoys the contest of running, to be honest. It's a criticism of Obama that he's in perpetual campaign mode, and I think that has some validity, but I think the same can be said for Palin.
oh, she was even meaner than that...
[Link: www.salon.com...]
Even though Palin knew that Stein is a Protestant Christian, from a Pennsylvania Dutch background, her campaign began circulating the word that she would be "Wasilla's first Christian mayor." Some of Stein's supporters interpreted this as an attempt to portray Stein as Jewish in the heavily evangelical community. Stein himself, an eminently reasonable and reflective man, thinks "they were redefining Christianity to mean born-agains."
The Palin campaign also started another vicious whisper campaign, spreading the word that Stein and his wife -- who had chosen to keep her own last name when they were married -- were not legally wed. Again, Palin knew the truth, Stein said, but chose to muddy the waters. "We actually had to produce our marriage certificate," recalled Stein, whose wife died of breast cancer in 2005 without ever reconciling with Palin.
| 985 |
dapperdave Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:16:30pm |
re: #983 Jimmah
Look who we have now, anyone else would be an improvement even Joe the plumber.
| 986 |
MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:33:30pm |
re: #932 blueherron
I believe Obama was and is the best possible choice for our country at this time.
You a fucking Commie bastard, too?
| 987 |
von Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:21:51pm |
Do LGFers really like Palin that much? Why? I probably missed something in almost 1000 comments, but I just don't like her. She doesn't seem like a great leader to me. Can someone point me to some good references that show some great leadership qualities in Palin? I guess I don't really know too much about her, but this can't be the BEST that Republicans could do...Hopefully not anyway.
| 988 |
Hanoch Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:25:01pm |
John Fund has an interesting article in the WSJ today entitled "Why Palin Quit: Death by a Thousand FOIAs". It is sickening to read how a decent woman could be attacked so viciously -- to the point where she can no longer perform her job as Governor -- essentially because she holds socially conservative views. It is one thing to have a spirited debate; it is quite another to mount a campaign of personal harassment and character assassination. It is scary thinking about how fast this country is falling apart.
| 989 |
BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:25:55pm |
re: #987 von
Do LGFers really like Palin that much? Why? I probably missed something in almost 1000 comments, but I just don't like her. She doesn't seem like a great leader to me. Can someone point me to some good references that show some great leadership qualities in Palin? I guess I don't really know too much about her, but this can't be the BEST that Republicans could do...Hopefully not anyway.
I don't like her either, but see Charles' post at 980: the LGF poll is being skewed right now by people coming from Free Republic to vote in it.
That being said, there are a lot of people here who like Palin a lot.
| 990 |
quiet man Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:27:35pm |
I wonder why there was no outcry when Kathleen Sebelius quit as KS governor...
| 993 |
Westward Ho Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:54:21pm |
Why does the right make such serious emotional investments in what can be charitably described as mediocre politicians - Bush, Palin etc..
| 994 |
SpaceJesus Tue, Jul 7, 2009 8:56:22pm |
re: #983 Jimmah
But what if something happened to Sarah Palin while she was president? Would Joe the Plumber be of a suitable calibre to step into her...
sorry, I'm now laughing too hard to complete that sentence.
ha.
ok, so I've reached a conclusion that might bring America and save all of us.
What if, the Republicans agreed to throw Palin in the Grand Canyon, and as a quid pro quo, the Democrats agree to fire Pelosi out of a cannon towards the moon?
do we have a consensus here? see, this is the kind of bipartisan effort we need in this country right now.
this is why it must be spacejesus, jimmah in 2012
| 995 |
sagehen Tue, Jul 7, 2009 9:59:11pm |
re: #993 Westward Ho
Why does the right make such serious emotional investments in what can be charitably described as mediocre politicians - Bush, Palin etc..
For some, it's "enemy of my enemy" -- anybody who the left loathes, that's recommendation enough. For the religious faction, it's identity politics.
It's definitely not a clear-eyed assessment of ability to do the job -- if that were the criteria, Bush the Elder would be getting a lot more props. He's the twice the man, and three times the President, as his lesser namesake turned out to be, but the right abandoned him wholesale... and still doesn't regret that, even though it's what got Clinton elected.
| 996 |
Linda Mae Tue, Jul 7, 2009 10:33:52pm |
From the Wall Street Journal:
"Since the 2008 campaign, some 150 FOIA requests have been filed & her office has been targeted for investigation by everyone from the FBI to the Alaska legislature. Most have centered on her use of government resources, & to date have turned up little save for a few state trips that she agreed to reimburse the state for because her children had accompanied her. In the process, she accumulated $500,000 in legal fees in just the last nine months, & knew the bill would grow larger in the future."
Add to this the 15 idiotic ethics violation charges - costing Alaska @ $2 million in time and effort to answer these charges. Visit the Alaska state web site to review the articles about the charges. My favorite was that she left the state to attend a fund raiser for children with special needs. Or that she wore a jacket with a logo on it. The bloggers who make these charges then break the law by making them public on their sites. They are part of the DNC. The cost to the state has risen - and another charge was just filed. #16.
Palin is being smeared by Alinsky's Rules for Radicals #4: make them walk their talk. She came out as a champion for ethics reform and so that is how they attack her. Rule #5: Ridicule the person in order to neutralize the message is also a tool used to discredit her. She just terrifies the left. George Soros spent millions of his own money - his claim - to discredit Bush because Bush was too proud to be an American and Soros wants us to go to a One World Order with one government and one money system - not the dollar - and led by the UN and IMF.
I was amazed today to hear the Pope ask for the same thing. We thought we were just sliding into Socialism here in the states but it seems we are being erased as a nation. I feel as if I am in a sci fi movie with crazies who want to take over the world - or a James Bond movie - and then realize - it's really happening. How do we stop it? Will Islam become the one world religion? The Pope calls for distribution of wealth. Where did we hear that before?
| 997 |
tradewind Tue, Jul 7, 2009 10:34:37pm |
re: #37 SpaceJesus
Obviously, you don't know bupkis re bumpkin.
It's not a synonym for ' community organizer '.
| 998 |
Linda Mae Tue, Jul 7, 2009 10:45:22pm |
re: #989 iceweasel
Just visit the state of Alaska web site. Click on to the Governor's page. Check out the newsletters. The news articles. The photographs. Then visit the budget page. Read some of the comments. You will find a governor who spends time effectively and efficiently. She had her state budget done by the beginning of the year. Many states are still trying to put theirs together. Read the State of the State Report. Check out the picture of her with the 30 plus representatives from countries such as Russia, Finland, Norway, Iceland, Poland, China, etc. visiting Alaska - again - to celebrate its 50th anniversary as a state. The group were about the same as the Arctic Parliamentarian Conference she attended and presented at last August. Energy was one of the issues. I loved the pictures of her at the hospital in Germany visiting the wounded. Obama blew his visit to the hospital off and worked out at the Ritz Carlton instead. And he gave an interview to CNN.
With 15 ethics charges over, knowing that they will continue because the left fear her, her decision to save Alaska money plus allow the office of the governor to function were - to me - reasons she quit.
| 999 |
Gang of One Wed, Jul 8, 2009 6:49:08am |
re: #988 Hanoch
John Fund has an interesting article in the WSJ today entitled "Why Palin Quit: Death by a Thousand FOIAs". It is sickening to read how a decent woman could be attacked so viciously -- to the point where she can no longer perform her job as Governor -- essentially because she holds socially conservative views. It is one thing to have a spirited debate; it is quite another to mount a campaign of personal harassment and character assassination. It is scary thinking about how fast this country is falling apart.
Because that is the best the loony liberal left can do.
| 1000 |
Gang of One Wed, Jul 8, 2009 6:50:26am |
re: #989 iceweasel
I don't like her either, but see Charles' post at 980: the LGF poll is being skewed right now by people coming from Free Republic to vote in it.
That being said, there are a lot of people here who like Palin a lot.
There are also a number of people here who are not impressed with Palin at all.
| 1001 |
drcordell Wed, Jul 8, 2009 7:31:49am |
re: #998 Linda Mae
Get your facts straight Linda. The ethics inquiries into Palin's conduct have not cost the state $2 million dollars, it's more like $500,000. And the vast majority of that sum went to fund the ethics investigation she opened herself with regard to her firing of Walt Monegan.
It's clear you're going to support Palin no matter what she does, and that's fine. You can support whomever you'd like to support, it's a free country. But let's cut the shit here. Palin quit because Alaska is facing dropping oil revenues and a massive budget shortfall that Palin simply doesn't want to deal with. Rather than deal with the sinking ship that is Alaska, she's cutting herself loose and swimming to shore with her eye set on 2012.
The woman loves campaigning, but hates actual governance. She has quit every position she has ever held. She attended five different colleges before receiving her degree in communications. She became Mayor of Wasilla and then quit, to run for Lt. Governor. She lost that election, and was appointed to the State oil ethics board. She then quit that. She then ran for governor, and has now quit that. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
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March FavoritesYou've seen these all already but looking back, just because. These are my favorite shots of this last month. That 1937 Zeiss Sonnar is such a gloriously wonderful bit of glass. Thanks for looking.
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Russia’s New Combat Robots Blown Up by Drones Near Avdiivka When we landed on the moon, I thought about how science fiction had become real. Now, the robot wars have begun. It's more poignant somehow on the ground than in the missile wars we have in the air as ...
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Why Did More Than 1,000 People Die After Police Subdued Them With Force That Isn’t Meant to Kill? An investigation led by The Associated Press has found that, over a decade, more than 1,000 people died after police subdued them through physical holds, stun guns, body blows and other force not intended to be lethal. More: Why ... Cheechako
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Views: 558 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 5- A Closer Look at the Eastman State Bar DecisionTaking a few minutes away from work things to read through the Eastman decision. As I'm sure many of you know, Eastman was my law school con law professor. I knew him pretty well because I was also running in ...KGxvi
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Abortions Outside Medical System Increased Sharply After Roe Fell, Study Finds The number of women using abortion pills to end their pregnancies on their own without the direct involvement of a U.S.-based medical provider rose sharply in the months after the Supreme Court eliminated a constitutional right to abortion, according ... Cheechako
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The Pandemic Cost 7 Million Lives, but Talks to Prevent a Repeat Stall In late 2021, as the world reeled from the arrival of the highly contagious omicron variant of the coronavirus, representatives of almost 200 countries met - some online, some in-person in Geneva - hoping to forestall a future worldwide ... Cheechako
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Texas County at Center of Border Fight Is Overwhelmed by Migrant Deaths EAGLE PASS, Tex. - The undertaker lighted a cigarette and held it between his latex-gloved fingers as he stood over the bloated body bag lying in the bed of his battered pickup truck. The woman had been fished out ... Cheechako
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