Armstrong a Fraction of a Second Away from Tour De France Lead

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Velonews has a good account of today’s team time trial at the Tour de France, in which Lance Armstrong and his Astana team won the stage and came within a fraction of a second of taking the yellow jersey. If anyone still doubted Lance could make a comeback, he ended all the speculation today.

Team Astana blazed through the team time trial to win stage 4. Astana came across the line 40 seconds ahead of the Saxo Bank squad of race leader Fabian Cancellara — the exact margin by which Cancellara led Lance Armstrong on general classification. After some careful math by race officials, Cancellara now holds the yellow jersey by a fraction of a second over Armstrong.

Garmin-Slipstream finished second on the day, 18 seconds down.

Astana came into the stage with four riders in the top 10 thanks to their time trialing ability, and that strength showed again on the 39km stage around Montpellier. Held largely on narrow roads, the technical course featured more than a few dicey corners that put riders from several teams on the ground.

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237 comments

Noam Sayin' Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:16:16pm

This will get the French's drawers in a bunch.

MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:16:19pm

TIGHT BUTTS DRIVE ME NUTS!

Sharmuta Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:16:29pm

Go Lance!

Sharmuta Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:17:40pm

I think it would be really cool to travel along with the Tour, watch it being run every day. That would be a neat way to see France.

_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:18:43pm

Lance looks great in yellow .... tomorrow maybe he can model a nice shiny, new yellow jersey.

MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:19:40pm

re: #4 Sharmuta

I think it would be really cool to travel along with the Tour, watch it being run every day. That would be a neat way to see France.

Far away from Paris?

Baier Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:20:06pm

Wait for the mountains! Go Lance, go!

General Nimrod Bodfish Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:20:19pm

Lance could wait until they are half way done with the Tour to start, and he could still win it LOL

This man is an inspiration all everyone. Coming back from testicular cancer to win 7 Tour de France titles, and now coming back from a crash that broke his collarbone several weeks back and is now just out of the lead, it's just incredible to me.

Go Lance!

Sharmuta Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:21:00pm

Come with me, Mandy. We'll always have Paris.

A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:21:14pm

OK... I'm stunned....If Lance wins this tour he has to be in the discussion for greatest athlete in History.. A 37 year old man cannot do this..
Stunned

Racer X Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:21:18pm

I don't care what anyone says - Lance has some stones in his sack.

MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:21:29pm

Lance has more spirit in his fingernail than most people have in their entire bodies. Keep it up, Lance!

Charles Johnson Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:23:16pm

There was serious carnage on this stage - several crashes. The route had lots of unusually narrow roads.

turn Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:23:23pm

This guy is the come back kid alright, overcoming cancer then coming back and continuing to nap the yellow Jersey. I have no doubt his top physical condition is why that chemo was able to work so well. Man those fwench are going to be really pissed off if our team wins again. Lance must have lungs down to his knees, unfreakinbelievable. Go Lance! Later all, time to go walk the lab along the American

MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:23:39pm

re: #9 Sharmuta

Come with me, Mandy. We'll always have Paris.

Let's go!

Youtube Video

zombie Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:24:01pm

He's toying with the French at this stage.

Reminds me of the two cheetahs in the Richard Pryor classic comedy act.

"Two cheetahs are lazing in the hot sun. One looks up sleepily at some gazelles in the far distance. 'Yawwwwn. Are you hungry?' 'Oh, I don't know. Maybe a snack. Or maybe let's go back to sleep.' ... 'Well, OK, let's have a snack.' They get up slowly, strettttccchhhh...then--

FOOOOOOOM!

One dead gazelle."

That's Lance vs. the European riders.

turn Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:24:15pm

re: #14 turn

nab turn, sheesh

Charles Johnson Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:24:45pm

The standings at this point don't mean much, even if Lance does take the lead. The Tour is won or lost in the mountains.

General Nimrod Bodfish Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:25:17pm

re: #10 HoosierHoops

If Lance wins, there should be NO discussion on this, IMO. Seven Tour de France titles, working on a possible 8th. 37 years old, survived cancer, there should be no doubt he has to be the greatest athlete in recorded history. He's certainly the best in his generation.

pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:26:11pm

Out here in the boonies, the big city, Wenatchee, WA. has a kid on Lances' team. Tyler Farrar. So eastern Wa is all wound up about this. I hope he pulls it off and drives the French mad!

_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:26:14pm

re: #18 Charles

The standings at this point don't mean much, even if Lance does take the lead. The Tour is won or lost in the mountains.

and the mountain stages are where Lance traditionally dominates ...

Racer X Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:26:52pm

re: #18 Charles

The standings at this point don't mean much, even if Lance does take the lead. The Tour is won or lost in the mountains.

Isn't that where Lance excels?

_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:28:03pm

re: #19 commadore183

If Lance wins, there should be NO discussion on this, IMO. Seven Tour de France titles, working on a possible 8th. 37 years old, survived cancer, there should be no doubt he has to be the greatest athlete in recorded history. He's certainly the best in his generation.

that is an argument that will go on forever. you can make the "best ever" argument for Carl Lewis as well. Check out his Olympic record over more than a decade.

zombie Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:28:12pm

re: #18 Charles

The standings at this point don't mean much, even if Lance does take the lead. The Tour is won or lost in the mountains.

I presume you've seen the animated film "The Triplets of Belleville"? Many funny scenes of the lead character training up mountain roads for the Tour de France. Recommended for all bike fans.

albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:28:13pm

re: #3 Sharmuta

Go Lance!

talk about a monster pub crawl!

MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:28:14pm

re: #15 MandyManners

Oops! Wrong link!

Youtube Video

A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:28:54pm

re: #19 commadore183

If Lance wins, there should be NO discussion on this, IMO. Seven Tour de France titles, working on a possible 8th. 37 years old, survived cancer, there should be no doubt he has to be the greatest athlete in recorded history. He's certainly the best in his generation.

What he is doing is stunning....He is also recovering from a collarbone break isn't he?
He is a stud!

Charles Johnson Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:29:14pm

re: #21 _RememberTonyC

and the mountain stages are where Lance traditionally dominates ...

Yeah, but the young guys are often better at climbing. We'll have to see if Lance still has that iron man stamina.

Sharmuta Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:29:32pm

re: #26 MandyManners

Oops! Wrong link!

[Video]

Just gives me a chance to ding you twice.

pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:29:53pm

re: #26 MandyManners
WHACK!

albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:30:03pm

Lance Armstrong....
the Geritol Kid

Racer X Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:30:17pm

re: #24 zombie

I presume you've seen the animated film "The Triplets of Belleville"? Many funny scenes of the lead character training up mountain roads for the Tour de France. Recommended for all bike fans.

Ha! Really entertaining movie. The frogs were a little weird though.

Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:30:59pm

re: #1 Noam Sayin'

This will get the French's drawers in a bunch.

They will probably be testing his pee every hour?

zombie Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:31:31pm

re: #19 commadore183

If Lance wins, there should be NO discussion on this, IMO. Seven Tour de France titles, working on a possible 8th. 37 years old, survived cancer, there should be no doubt he has to be the greatest athlete in recorded history. He's certainly the best in his generation.

Maybe not the best ever. L:ance is great, but that's quite a strech to say the best of all time. There's Jim Thorpe, Cassius Clay/Ali, various Iron Man athletes, etc., back through the centuries. Lotta competition there!

SteveC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:32:23pm

re: #33 Nevergiveup

They will probably be testing his pee every hour?

Does a man with one ball have two strikes against him? Apparently not!

MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:32:31pm

re: #29 Sharmuta

Just gives me a chance to ding you twice.

8-)

MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:32:55pm

re: #30 pingjockey

WHACK!

You don't like Sinatra!

MrSilverDragon Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:32:58pm

re: #24 zombie

I presume you've seen the animated film "The Triplets of Belleville"? Many funny scenes of the lead character training up mountain roads for the Tour de France. Recommended for all bike fans.

Wow, I thought I was the only one who saw that movie. And yes, I thought it was a wonderful film! Unique characters and not much dialogue, very engaging! Love the music in it, too.

_RememberTonyC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:33:01pm

re: #28 Charles

Yeah, but the young guys are often better at climbing. We'll have to see if Lance still has that iron man stamina.

Lance has an internal "motor" that the young guys will have to contend with. But "Father Time" does have a way of catching up with even the great ones.

sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:33:48pm

re: #19 commadore183

If Lance wins, there should be NO discussion on this, IMO. Seven Tour de France titles, working on a possible 8th. 37 years old, survived cancer, there should be no doubt he has to be the greatest athlete in recorded history. He's certainly the best in his generation.

He also survived sheryl crow

Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:34:27pm

re: #39 _RememberTonyC

Lance has an internal "motor" that the young guys will have to contend with. But "Father Time" does have a way of catching up with even the great ones.

Father time meet Steroids? Hello Steroids.

SteveC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:35:46pm

...And this just crossed the wires here at News 13, Michael Jackson is STILL dead!

We'll have film at 7, 7:10, 7:25, 7:40, during the 8 PM Movie, and a 32 hour recap after your late local news. Whenever news breaks, we fix it!

LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:36:09pm

re: #2 MandyManners

TIGHT BUTTS DRIVE ME NUTS!

Butbutbutbut...........is that what you meant?
/

Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:36:39pm

re: #42 SteveC

...And this just crossed the wires here at News 13, Michael Jackson is STILL dead!

We'll have film at 7, 7:10, 7:25, 7:40, during the 8 PM Movie, and a 32 hour recap after your late local news. Whenever news breaks, we fix it!

I wish they had not dragged his daughter out there.

SteveC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:36:46pm

re: #40 sattv4u2

He also survived sheryl crow

That settles it. Lance is the best, forever and ever.

pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:36:52pm

re: #37 MandyManners

I like Frank. I also like the occasional chance to whack yer butt! :)

Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:37:16pm

re: #46 pingjockey

I like Frank. I also like the occasional chance to whack yer butt! :)

OOH kinky?

Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:37:57pm

From Times Online
July 7, 2009
Al Gore invokes spirit of Churchill in battle against climate change

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Read a history book putz.

pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:38:12pm

re: #47 Nevergiveup
Well, it is Mandy, and she just has a way with words this ol' squid finds very appealing.

haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:38:34pm

re: #40 sattv4u2

He also survived sheryl crow

Kevin Gilbert, not so much.

Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:38:44pm

re: #49 pingjockey

Well, it is Mandy, and she just has a way with words this ol' squid finds very appealing.

Is she a Navy Groupie?
/ducking

Ward Cleaver Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:39:10pm

Bernie Ecclestone doubles down on Jew-hatred:

FOLLOWUP: Ecclestone fans flames again, reportedly blames Jews for banking crisis

Ward Cleaver Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:39:47pm

re: #40 sattv4u2

He also survived sheryl crow

I'll bet she didn't cost him much in toilet paper.

SteveC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:40:05pm

re: #44 Nevergiveup

I wish they had not dragged his daughter out there.

*Sigh* MJ coverage has become ridiculous. I wish he had been revived; then we'd have had about a day of covering Micheal's "Holy Shit!" moment and that's all.

Honorary Yooper Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:40:13pm

re: #1 Noam Sayin'

This will get the French's drawers in a bunch.

Yeah, were he to get an eigth win on the Tour de France, that'd really tweek the French.

Go Lance!

sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:40:29pm

re: #50 haakondahl

Kevin Gilbert, not so much.

Lance Armstrong dated Kevin Gilbert !

pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:40:33pm

re: #51 Nevergiveup
No idea! IIRC, she is a tight butts groupie!

Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:41:46pm

re: #53 Ward Cleaver

I'll bet she didn't cost him much in toilet paper.

OK you got to splain that to me, I must be out of the loop?

[deleted] Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:41:47pm

pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:42:42pm

re: #58 Nevergiveup
Sheryl explained how you should wipe your butt with one piece of tp!

albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:42:46pm

this is how you alter reality and take down a legit govt

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

wrenchwench Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:44:17pm

Alberto Contador doesn't stand a chance. Supposedly Contador was going to be the team leader for Astana, and he and Lance would do whatever Johan Bruyneel (the team manager) said. But Lance has made Johan a very rich man, I'm sure, and can continue to do so even after he re-retires, so I think Johan will do whatever Lance wants.

pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:44:18pm

re: #61 albusteve
The ones admin is truly on the side of marxist/leninist assholes.

Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:44:19pm

re: #60 pingjockey

Sheryl explained how you should wipe your butt with one piece of tp!

Oh OK, I thought Rosie did that? Or did Rosie say no chance baby?

MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:44:21pm

re: #43 LGoPs

Butbutbutbut...........is that what you meant?
/

Not really!

kynna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:44:24pm

Even if he only takes the lead once, it will be so satisfying. LOL. If he doesn't, he's still proven himself a powerhouse. Go Lance!

A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:44:26pm

re: #40 sattv4u2

He also survived sheryl crow

I wonder how many times they sat on the Bed Nekkid and she played a guitar singing him songs?
Lucky Bastard

MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:44:42pm

re: #46 pingjockey

I like Frank. I also like the occasional chance to whack yer butt! :)

HA!

LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:44:50pm

re: #61 albusteve

this is how you alter reality and take down a legit govt

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

If I were the Honduran government I'd tell Hillary and Obama to "mind your own fucking business"

pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:44:53pm

re: #64 Nevergiveup
Gaaah!

sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:45:13pm

re: #67 HoosierHoops

I wonder how many times they sat on the Bed Nekkid and she played a guitar singing him songs?
Lucky Bastard

Ya like guitars that much, huh ?

Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:45:14pm

re: #61 albusteve

this is how you alter reality and take down a legit govt

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

We are officially now on the wrong side of history.

Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:45:40pm

re: #69 LGoPs

If I were the Honduran government I'd tell Hillary and Obama to "mind your own fucking business"

In those words also

pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:45:59pm

re: #68 MandyManners
See my 49.

MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:46:32pm

re: #51 Nevergiveup

Is she a Navy Groupie?
/ducking

I've a hat from the USS Vincennes with the word "Fire Control" on it packed away somewhere.

LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:46:53pm

re: #72 Nevergiveup

We are officially now on the wrong side of history.

I feel like we're living under an occupying power.

A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:47:45pm

re: #71 sattv4u2

Ya like guitars that much, huh ?

LOL
Miss Crow is smoking hot.. And a great musician...

Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:48:00pm

re: #72 Nevergiveup

We are officially now on the wrong side of history.

This is a dress rehearsal for how they are going to handle Israel.

Kragar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:48:11pm

re: #59 buzzsawmonkey

"The Battle of Drilling is over. The Battle of Emissions has begun."

"This is not the beginning of the end, but it is the end the life you were accustomed to."

"Give me your lightbulbs, and I'll finish the job."

...oh, yes, I can see it.

"Never in the field of human conflict was so much effort wasted by so few to impoverish so many"

albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:48:14pm

re: #76 LGoPs

I feel like we're living under an occupying power.

and there is nobody that will call out BO on this madness

[deleted] Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:48:29pm

Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:48:33pm

re: #75 MandyManners

I've a hat from the USS Vincennes with the word "Fire Control" on it packed away somewhere.

If you want something from the USNA let me know. I could put your son on the "interested" list. They really have one and will send him stuff in his name. One of my colleagues put his 19 month old on the list and he is getting the mail.

sattv4u2 Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:48:49pm

re: #76 LGoPs

I feel like we're living under an occupying power.

With the leadership a combination of the Marx Brothers and the Fine Brothers, only not funny!

Picayune Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:48:56pm

Lance is making his comeback today, and Palin is planning hers for 2011.
(see Palin's Plan in links) Go Lance go. You can't make'em like you, but you sure have way to make them respect you!

Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:48:59pm

re: #76 LGoPs

I feel like we're living under an occupying power.

I wish I had said that. But I will steal it in the future.

pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:49:05pm

re: #76 LGoPs
I wonder if I can get the doc to prescribe me these meds for the next 4 years? I mean we're already through the frakkin' looking glass, so being in an altered state of mind ought to make me think madness in DC is SOP.

albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:49:36pm

re: #77 HoosierHoops

LOL
Miss Crow is smoking hot.. And a great musician...

great musician?....that's a stretch...she plays some guitar and a little B3

MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:49:37pm

re: #59 buzzsawmonkey

"The Battle of Drilling is over. The Battle of Emissions has begun."

"This is not the beginning of the end, but it is the end the life you were accustomed to."

"Give me your lightbulbs, and I'll finish the job."

...oh, yes, I can see it.

"Never, never, never, never gas up!"

Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:49:38pm

re: #80 albusteve

and there is nobody that will call out BO on this madness

Palin

SteveC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:49:41pm

re: #61 albusteve

this is how you alter reality and take down a legit govt

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

How in the hell do we take Zelaya's side in this? Honduras has a democratically elected government; he said "I've got a great idea! Why don't I become President for life?" and the people (backed by the army) told him "That's the stupidest idea we've ever heard of!"

So how exactly do we back the wannabe dictator on this one?

Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:49:47pm

re: #84 Picayune

Lance is making his comeback today, and Palin is planning hers for 2011.
(see Palin's Plan in links) Go Lance go. You can't make'em like you, but you sure have way to make them respect you!

We don't know what Palin is going to do, do you?

pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:50:29pm

re: #78 Walter L. Newton
I really, really hope the Israelis have enough of a survival instinct to tell the one to fuck off.

yochanan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:50:29pm

i used to fellow it but the poor sportsmanship of the french when an American kept winning it left a sour taste for sure

RIGHT NOW I WOULD JUST WANT LANCE TO WIN IT JUST TO PISS IN THERE EYE.

haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:51:12pm

re: #60 pingjockey

Sheryl explained how you should wipe your butt with one piece of tp!

And it was probably Kevin Gilbert's TP to begin with.

I got the cassette of Toy Matinee's Toy Matinee when my sister bought a three-for-a-buck pack somewhere, and handed my that one and the Dick Tracy film soundtrack. I don't know what the "good" one was, but Toy Matinee was astounding--clever lyrics with cloying, virtuoso musicianship without being inaccessible. Magnificent album.

MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:51:16pm

re: #82 Nevergiveup

If you want something from the USNA let me know. I could put your son on the "interested" list. They really have one and will send him stuff in his name. One of my colleagues put his 19 month old on the list and he is getting the mail.

The USNA isn't ready for The Kid.

karmic_inquisitor Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:51:38pm

Charles -

Whatever happened to the "fascist headwinds" posts? You still ride?

yochanan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:51:53pm

re: #81 buzzsawmonkey

TELL MS. CROW to use her left hand and a smooth stone.

SteveC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:51:55pm

re: #78 Walter L. Newton

This is a dress rehearsal for how ~~they are~~ he is going to handle ~~Israel~~.

the 2012 Presidential Election.

Fixed it for you!

albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:52:42pm

re: #89 Nevergiveup

Palin

well there ya go...it's unbelievable that he can get away with this bullshit...it's a very dicey situation where people could get killed

100

SixDegrees Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:52:46pm

If he pulls out ahead and maintains a lead, I'll be expecting the French to "screw up" some of his substance tests to give them something to hang accusations of cheating on.

101

A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:53:02pm

re: #87 albusteve

great musician?....that's a stretch...she plays some guitar and a little B3

Should i have said great singer/songwriter?
One song of hers and I quit work and move back to California.....
Buy a little place in the vineyards and laugh about how much she sucks?
I like her....apparently so did Lance so I'm in good company
/Hi Steve

102

pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:53:10pm

re: #94 haakondahl

I'm musically illiterate some what. I hadn't heard of Kevin Gilbert.

103

karmic_inquisitor Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:53:30pm

re: #18 Charles

The standings at this point don't mean much, even if Lance does take the lead. The Tour is won or lost in the mountains.

He got smoked in the Italian Alps in Giro D'Italia this year, IIRC.

104

quickjustice Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:53:47pm

Did anyone ever prove that Armstrong used illegal, performance-enhancing drugs?

105

Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:54:12pm

re: #87 albusteve

great musician?....that's a stretch...she plays some guitar and a little B3

I've never seen a "little" B3?

106

pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:54:29pm

re: #104 quickjustice
NO! The French are still pissed.

107

[deleted] Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:54:38pm

108

karmic_inquisitor Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:55:05pm

re: #104 quickjustice

Did anyone ever prove that Armstrong used illegal, performance-enhancing drugs?

No.

109

oh_dude Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:55:45pm

Man, I must be out of touch. I didn't even know that the dude was still racing.

110

SixDegrees Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:55:57pm

re: #104 quickjustice

Did anyone ever prove that Armstrong used illegal, performance-enhancing drugs?

Nope.

111

haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:56:05pm

re: #85 Nevergiveup

re: #76 LGoPs
I feel like we're living under an occupying power.

I wish I had said that. But I will steal it in the future.

Actually, I'm a little tired of hearing that from the previous eight years. A majority elected him. When you look at your fellow American, odds are, you're looking at the problem.

112

pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:56:25pm

re: #109 oh_dude
Put the bong down and step back...slowly.

113

karmic_inquisitor Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:56:42pm

re: #107 buzzsawmonkey

Don't you remember the "one-square" interlude, where Sheryl Crow was advocating that people use no more than one square as a way of Helping to Save the Earth?

She backed off of that--possibly because of the ridicule--so I guess it's no more one square and back to Square One.

She was just trying to fight a threat as bad as the Nazi's.

One square at a time.

114

haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:57:04pm

re: #90 SteveC

How in the hell do we take Zelaya's side in this? Honduras has a democratically elected government; he said "I've got a great idea! Why don't I become President for life?" and the people (backed by the army) told him "That's the stupidest idea we've ever heard of!"

So how exactly do we back the wannabe dictator on this one?

"There are no enemies to the left of the left."

115

albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:57:11pm

re: #101 HoosierHoops

Should i have said great singer/songwriter?
One song of hers and I quit work and move back to California.....
Buy a little place in the vineyards and laugh about how much she sucks?
I like her....apparently so did Lance so I'm in good company
/Hi Steve

actually the B3 is more difficult than people think...and I read where she is pretty doggone good on it...so she should get credit for that

116

SteveC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:57:12pm

re: #107 buzzsawmonkey

Don't you remember the "one-square" interlude, where Sheryl Crow was advocating that people use no more than one square as a way of Helping to Save the Earth?

She backed off of that--possibly because of the ridicule--so I guess it's no more one square and back to Square One.

You little people just don't understand pure Hollywood brilliance when you hear it. I'm moving to.... to... Aww, HELL! I'm outta here!

/(Chanting) Go Sheryl...Go Sheryl...Go Sheryl...

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pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:57:44pm

re: #115 albusteve
Halp! What's a B3!

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LGoPs Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:57:56pm

There is a historic opportunity being missed here because of our choice last November. For good or ill, President Bush planted a seed of democracy in the viper's nest that is the Middle East. I have no doubt that the expressions of rebellion and freedom being seen in Iran were fueled by seeing what their neighbors in Iraq had attained. All Obama had to due was nurture and encourage it, in the same way Reagan nurtured and encouraged Soildarity in Poland, and let the people do the heavy lifting. Nobody meant for him to send in the 82nd Airborne for crying out loud. Just use the moral authority of the United States to provide moral strength. But he did not do that and dithered and hesitated and probably squandered one of the best opportunities for real Fundamental Change - the kind of change that's really needed - not the bukllshit he is pulling on this country. History will be the judge but I am willing to judge him now for the supporter of tyrants that he really is.
And his actions in Honduras are in stark contrast to what he failed to do in Iran. As I've often stated before, liberals have phenomenally bad judgement and can be relied on to do exactly the wrong thing, each and every fucking time.

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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:58:45pm

re: #105 Walter L. Newton

I've never seen a "little" B3?

heh...yes the Pocket B3...13 keys, no knobs or dials...you are out of it aren't you?

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Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:58:45pm

re: #111 haakondahl

Actually, I'm a little tired of hearing that from the previous eight years. A majority elected him. When you look at your fellow American, odds are, you're looking at the problem.

Yup they sure did. And a majority of the majority have no idea what they voted for. Morons. And I will gladly add Colin Powell to that list for being "surprised" Obama is spending us into bankruptcy?

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Picayune Tue, Jul 7, 2009 2:59:50pm

re: #91 Walter L. Newton

Let's just say a little bird told me of her plans for dinner in 3 months, and based on that, I believe that Roger Stone is perhaps correct in his assessment:
[Link: stonezone.com...]

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A Man for all Seasons Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:00:14pm

re: #117 pingjockey

Halp! What's a B3!

An organ....With Leslie spinning speakers if I recall...
The sound on the Doors albums? B3

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SteveC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:00:25pm

re: #117 pingjockey

Halp! What's a B3!

Better than a B2, not quite as good as a B4.

(I have no clue. I finished early today and I've lifted several glasses in honor of something or the other, so just let me ride this time.)

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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:00:50pm

re: #117 pingjockey

Halp! What's a B3!

it's a classic of course...Hammond B3

Image: 1959%20Hammond%20B3%20Organ%20005.jpg

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pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:01:28pm

re: #122 HoosierHoops

re: #124 albusteve
Thank you!

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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:01:36pm

re: #115 albusteve

actually the B3 is more difficult than people think...and I read where she is pretty doggone good on it...so she should get credit for that

More difficult... really? Clarify that? It's an organ. A little understanding of all the bells and whistles is needed, just like any electronic instrument, touch may be a little different, but I don't understand what makes it "harder" to play?

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pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:01:51pm

re: #123 SteveC
Heh. No worries.

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jorline Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:01:57pm

Putin taking a poke at Obama before their meeting.

Putin praises Bush hospitality during Obama visit

Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin praised the hospitality and openness of U.S. former President George W. Bush in a telegramme sent hours before meeting his successor Barack Obama.

"During the last years we have been working on strengthening Russia-U.S. cooperation. Although there were differences between our countries, I always valued your openness and sincerity," Putin said, congratulating Bush on his 63rd birthday on July 6.

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pingjockey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:02:24pm

Nap time calleth!

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Truck Monkey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:03:29pm

re: #128 jorline

Putin taking a poke at Obama before their meeting.

Putin praises Bush hospitality during Obama visit

I miss W. I really really miss W.

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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:04:09pm

re: #121 Picayune

Let's just say a little bird told me of her plans for dinner in 3 months, and based on that, I believe that Roger Stone is perhaps correct in his assessment:
[Link: stonezone.com...]

Assessment, but nothing from her directly, so, as I said before, you don't know, you only believe. Belief and knowledge are two different things.

We don't know what Palin is up to.

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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:04:12pm

re: #122 HoosierHoops

An organ....With Leslie spinning speakers if I recall...
The sound on the Doors albums? B3

the Leslies are a separate system...but added to the B3, yes, that was a very unique sound...which can be digitalized now

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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:05:00pm

re: #121 Picayune

Let's just say a little bird told me of her plans for dinner in 3 months, and based on that, I believe that Roger Stone is perhaps correct in his assessment:
[Link: stonezone.com...]

From your link:

Palin has the most valuable commodity a Presidential candidate can have - a base. Roughly 23% of Americans and 68% of Republicans have a favorable view of Palin.

She is going absolutely nowhere with only 23% approval among Americans as a whole. And I see nothing in there about any dinner she has planned in 3 months.

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ointmentfly Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:05:07pm

re: #128 jorline

Putin taking a poke at Obama before their meeting.

Putin praises Bush hospitality during Obama visit

....so kick back, have a little birthday cake and watch me make your successor look like the little, lightweight foreign policy bitch that he is.....

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opnion Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:06:10pm

re: #61 albusteve

this is how you alter reality and take down a legit govt

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

That Obama is quite a guy. He first said that he could not take sides in Iran & finally got embarrased into paying at least lip service to the demonstrators.
But Honduras? No problem, he comes right to the defense of the Chavez ally who tries to call an illegal referendum in order to become President for lie. The legislature & Supreme Court thwarted him & dispatched the military

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:06:33pm

re: #128 jorline

Putin taking a poke at Obama before their meeting.

Putin praises Bush hospitality during Obama visit

ZING!

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SteveC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:06:39pm

re: #133 doppelganglander

And I see nothing in there about any dinner she has planned in 3 months.

That usually means I'm not invited or I couldn't find a date. No big deal.

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Picayune Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:06:55pm

re: #131 Walter L. Newton

True, and I've got both. The dinner deal is set, which gives cred to Stone's prediction.

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jorline Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:07:01pm

re: #134 ointmentfly

....so kick back, have a little birthday cake and watch me make your successor look like the little, lightweight foreign policy bitch that he is.....

I haven't heard a whole lot in the news about that breakfast meeting.

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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:07:41pm

re: #126 Walter L. Newton

More difficult... really? Clarify that? It's an organ. A little understanding of all the bells and whistles is needed, just like any electronic instrument, touch may be a little different, but I don't understand what makes it "harder" to play?

it's not harder to play...bad semantics...it can be difficult to learn all it's intricacies to get the most out of it....but you answered your own question

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Rancher Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:09:09pm

Must be doped.
/

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SixDegrees Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:09:26pm

re: #128 jorline

Putin taking a poke at Obama before their meeting.

Putin praises Bush hospitality during Obama visit

I bet Putin misses Condi Rice, too, who spoke fluent Russian, understood Russian history, and didn't hand out stupid red "Reset" buttons and other gimmicky gifts aimed at creating photo-ops for herself while insulting her guests.

Rice also knew that Putin and his allies in the Kremlin are murderous, thuggish weasels, something the current Administration and State Department seem utterly clueless about.

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Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:09:29pm

Russia warns US over missile shield
Published: 07.08.09, 00:47 / Israel News
Russia's foreign minister warned Tuesday that the US would jeopardize progress toward a new treaty with Russia on nuclear arms cuts if it decides to create a global missile defense system.

Sergey Lavrov spoke a day after the Russian and US presidents reached a preliminary agreement setting targets for further reductions of the world's largest offensive nuclear arsenals. (AP)

This is working so well?

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SteveC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:09:30pm

re: #139 jorline

I haven't heard a whole lot in the news about that breakfast meeting.

A little borst, with sauteed self important politician on the side. Try it with the apple butter, it's quite good!

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Picayune Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:09:38pm

re: #133 doppelganglander

Stone does not know about the dinner date. I do.

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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:09:51pm

re: #132 albusteve

the Leslies are a separate system...but added to the B3, yes, that was a very unique sound...which can be digitalized now

Let me give you some info. The Hammond-Suzuki XK-3 digital organ is considered by all experts as the only true Hammond clone, a digital instrument that finally duplicates the sound produced by the older partly mechanical B3. Over 30 years of digital clones have never reached the sound like the XK-3.

As far as Leslie speakers, no one has flawlessly duplicated that sound. The Kettner-Hughes RotoVibe comes as close as anyone has been able to create, and that is a 500 dollar pedal.

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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:10:42pm

re: #102 pingjockey

I'm musically illiterate some what. I hadn't heard of Kevin Gilbert.

Nobody ever heard of him. This is a link to Amazon, for the album I'm talking about. Everybody buy it, OK?

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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:10:50pm

re: #140 albusteve

it's not harder to play...bad semantics...it can be difficult to learn all it's intricacies to get the most out of it....but you answered your own question

Ok, that I agree on. Had one, had the XK-3 too!

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yochanan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:11:06pm

if i went to see the tour i would bring a couple of boxes of 'holy thumb tacks' with me

hehehehehe

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:12:08pm

re: #142 SixDegrees

I bet Putin misses Condi Rice, too, who spoke fluent Russian, understood Russian history, and didn't hand out stupid red "Reset" buttons and other gimmicky gifts aimed at creating photo-ops for herself while insulting her guests.

Rice also knew that Putin and his allies in the Kremlin are murderous, thuggish weasels, something the current Administration and State Department seem utterly clueless about.

I bet he misses her boots, too.

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Kragar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:12:13pm

Contractor With Ties To Murtha Charged By Feds

Richard Ianieri, the former president of Coherent Systems International, is accused of taking bribes from officials at a firm the company hired as a contractor. The charges, filed late Monday by the U.S. Attorney's Office in Pittsburgh, came in the form of a filing that typically indicates that the defendant plans to plead guilty and cooperate with investigators.

"The company that allegedly paid the bribes, identified in court filings only as "K," closely resembles Kuchera Defense Systems, which is based in Murtha's congressional district outside Pittsburgh and was a subcontractor to Coherent. Kuchera Defense Systems and its sister company, Kuchera Industries, are under federal investigation for allegations of fraud and overbilling on Defense Department contracts. The probe focuses on companies that benefited from contracts orchestrated or approved by Murtha, the powerful chair of the House Appropriations subcommittee on military spending.

"Defense investigators and the FBI raided Kuchera's corporate offices and the homes of its top two executives January. In late April, the Navy suspended Kuchera for 'alleged fraud,' including 'multiple incidents' of incorrect charging, Navy officials said, along with allegations of defective pricing and ethical violations."

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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:13:04pm

re: #126 Walter L. Newton

More difficult... really? Clarify that? It's an organ. A little understanding of all the bells and whistles is needed, just like any electronic instrument, touch may be a little different, but I don't understand what makes it "harder" to play?

I hesitate to post a link demonstrating what can make an organ hard.

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Dianna Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:13:21pm

re: #142 SixDegrees

Condi isn't fluent in Russian - she can read it, and understand it, but her spoken Russian isn't good. She notably prefers to check her own translations with experts.

Condi's a fine scholar, if a little too enamoured (for my taste) of the "signaling" school of Kremlinology. She deserves respect. But let's not puff her beyond what she herself claims.

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Kragar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:13:28pm

re: #152 haakondahl

I hesitate to post a link demonstrating what can make an organ hard.

Boob thread?

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Truck Monkey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:13:31pm

re: #151 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Contractor With Ties To Murtha Charged By Feds

I'm sure that Murthas not involved.........
/

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SteveC Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:14:13pm

OK, friends. I usually don't drink very often so when I do, it hits me hard. I'm going to go lay on the couch and check my eyelids for cracks.

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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:14:49pm

re: #152 haakondahl

I hesitate to post a link demonstrating what can make an organ hard.

It is really beyond the pale that you would make such a comment to a respectable gentleman like me. I am embarrassed.
/

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yochanan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:15:00pm

re: #156 SteveC

invoking the iron fist rule
good call.

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Truck Monkey Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:15:14pm

re: #156 SteveC

OK, friends. I usually don't drink very often so when I do, it hits me hard. I'm going to go lay on the couch and check my eyelids for cracks.

You should find someone to tie the couch down so it doesn't float away or start spinning.

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SixDegrees Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:15:27pm

re: #150 MandyManners

I bet he misses her boots, too.

If he doesn't, I certainly do.

I don't want to imagine Hillary decked out like that. She'd look like Rosa Klebb from From Russia With Love.

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Rancher Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:15:31pm

The Summit: Day 2

Having committed himself to a useless arms-reduction treaty and vouchsafed his faith in the Russian legal system, the president has gone on to:
* Acknowledge the “extraordinary work” that prime minister Vladimir Putin has done for Russia, describing him as “sincere, just, and deeply interested in the interests of the Russian people,”

* Promised to take into account Russia’s “peculiar” view of its relations with Georgia and Ukraine [that it should dominate them], and

*Vowed to keep the Russian leaders informed about a U.S. evaluation of whether the anti-missile shield planned for Eastern Europe will actually work. (This was immediately described by Kremlin spokesmen for the Russian television audience as a prelude to an American decision to drop the missile shield entirely.)

The Hope Administration

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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:15:53pm

re: #146 Walter L. Newton

Let me give you some info. The Hammond-Suzuki XK-3 digital organ is considered by all experts as the only true Hammond clone, a digital instrument that finally duplicates the sound produced by the older partly mechanical B3. Over 30 years of digital clones have never reached the sound like the XK-3.

As far as Leslie speakers, no one has flawlessly duplicated that sound. The Kettner-Hughes RotoVibe comes as close as anyone has been able to create, and that is a 500 dollar pedal.

I was talking to Little Feats renowned keys guy one time, Billy Payne, and he rattled off stuff exactly like that...I recall he insisted on hauling his B3 for years until he found a keyboard that could give him the same richness and warmth of his old organ...he plays with three keyboards...one is just a piano...but he plays the old B3 at home....Art Neville for example still uses his on the road and others I'm sure...it's an interesting old debate

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Buster Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:15:59pm

re: #60 pingjockey

Sheryl explained how you should wipe your butt with one piece of tp!

She probably has a bidet.

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ointmentfly Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:16:06pm

re: #151 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Only democrats with bad hair get caught up in bribery scandals. Beam me up Mr. Speaker!

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yochanan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:16:15pm

re: #160 SixDegrees

i would like to see Sarah Palin in a pair of those.

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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:16:31pm

re: #151 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Contractor With Ties To Murtha Charged By Feds

ABSCAM!

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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:16:49pm

re: #145 Picayune

Stone does not know about the dinner date. I do.

And who are you? You are an anonymous individual on the Internet who is very likely blowing smoke up our asses. Either share your information so we can judge it for ourselves, or stop talking about it.

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[deleted] Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:16:57pm

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SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:17:23pm

You can't measure a little thing they call heart.

But you can see it in some exceptional athletes.

Lance has it. In Spades.

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[deleted] Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:17:25pm

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:17:33pm

re: #152 haakondahl

I hesitate to post a link demonstrating what can make an organ hard.

Maybe my No. 150?

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yochanan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:17:50pm

looks like someone tossed out the 'holy thumb tacks' before i got here as this tour thread has been flattened.

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Walter L. Newton Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:18:27pm

re: #162 albusteve

I was talking to Little Feats renowned keys guy one time, Billy Payne, and he rattled off stuff exactly like that...I recall he insisted on hauling his B3 for years until he found a keyboard that could give him the same richness and warmth of his old organ...he plays with three keyboards...one is just a piano...but he plays the old B3 at home....Art Neville for example still uses his on the road and others I'm sure...it's an interesting old debate

Yes, very old. I am just repeating what the experts are saying in the last few years. I have to agree with them about the Hammond XK-3, and I have no stake in that, since I don't play professionally anymore and last year, I sold my digital Hammond.

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:18:30pm

re: #151 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Contractor With Ties To Murtha Charged By Feds

I wish they'd find evidence that JohnFuckingMurtha is in the middle of that.

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yochanan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:18:35pm

re: #169 SasquatchOnSteroids

You can't measure a little thing they call heart.

But you can see it in some exceptional athletes.

Lance has it. In Spades.

RACIST ///////

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Rancher Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:19:08pm

re: #160 SixDegrees

If he doesn't, I certainly do.

I don't want to imagine Hillary decked out like that. She'd look like Rosa Klebb from From Russia With Love.

Hard to decide if I should upding or downding you for that.

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:19:13pm

re: #160 SixDegrees

If he doesn't, I certainly do.

I don't want to imagine Hillary decked out like that. She'd look like Rosa Klebb from From Russia With Love.

Bubushka?

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pat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:19:37pm

Hmmmm. This will necessitate midnight, 2AM, and 4 AM drug tests.

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SixDegrees Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:19:41pm

re: #155 Truck Monkey

I'm sure that Murthas not involved.........
/

Here's the money quote:

A former executive for a Pennsylvania defense firm with close ties to Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.) has been charged with taking bribes from a partner defense company and appears to be cooperating in a federal investigation

I hope Murtha's on his knees, puking in terror after reading this.

The Feds certainly are busy these days, between this and cleaning out the cesspool in Detroit.

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:20:32pm

re: #170 buzzsawmonkey

She's not an old bidet yet.

Will this thread be flush with puns?

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yochanan Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:20:50pm

re: #179 SixDegrees

we still have a chicagostan cesspool.

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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:21:07pm

re: #171 MandyManners

Maybe my No. 150?

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

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albusteve Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:21:11pm

re: #173 Walter L. Newton

Yes, very old. I am just repeating what the experts are saying in the last few years. I have to agree with them about the Hammond XK-3, and I have no stake in that, since I don't play professionally anymore and last year, I sold my digital Hammond.

all experts agree, you cannot eat a XK-3

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[deleted] Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:21:22pm

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:21:27pm

re: #182 haakondahl

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

Hoisted yet again, I am.

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Kragar Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:21:31pm

re: #174 MandyManners

I wish they'd find evidence that JohnFuckingMurtha is in the middle of that.

Oh, that might very well be in the near future

"Ianieri was charged via a federal criminal information, which typically indicates that a defendant is cooperating with prosecutors."

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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:21:37pm

re: #179 SixDegrees

I hope Murtha's on his knees, puking in terror after reading this.

The Feds certainly are busy these days, between this and cleaning out the cesspool in Detroit.

Murtha's too dumb and arrogant to know there's a shitstorm coming his way. If he's implicated in this, I will be serving up a steamin', heapin' helpin' of Schadenfreude to any and all.

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That's Mr. President to you Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:21:50pm

Hello everyone.

Just thought I'd stop in after a very busy day and ask for some information.

I know that LGF has quite a few folks who enjoy hunting and the outdoors.

I have been kissing a bear's ass all day and I need to know how to get the hair out of my teeth. Any tips? Thanks in advance.

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:21:52pm

re: #184 buzzsawmonkey

If so, I'm sure we'll plumb the depths.

These puns drain me.

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Nevergiveup Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:22:26pm

re: #161 Rancher

Yup it's all Russia could ever hope for

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[deleted] Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:22:29pm

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:22:48pm

re: #186 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Oh, I hope.

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opnion Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:23:06pm

re: #168 buzzsawmonkey

I've figured out why Al Gore has likened fighting global warming to fighting Nazis.

What with the atmosphere, the entire earth is a gas chamber. How could I not have seen it?

Hey he beat out Mother Teresa for the Nobel Prize. Shows how wrapped together that committee is.

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:23:20pm

re: #188 That's Mr. President to you

Hello everyone.

Just thought I'd stop in after a very busy day and ask for some information.

I know that LGF has quite a few folks who enjoy hunting and the outdoors.

I have been kissing a bear's ass all day and I need to know how to get the hair out of my teeth. Any tips? Thanks in advance.

How ya' doing, ya' fuckin' Commie bastard!

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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:23:30pm

re: #187 doppelganglander

Murtha's too dumb and arrogant to know there's a shitstorm coming his way. If he's implicated in this, I will be serving up a steamin', heapin' helpin' of Schadenfreude to any and all.

Hope folks don't mind if I dust off one of my old favorites:

"Schadengofuckyourself"

Ahhh, I feel better.

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SixDegrees Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:23:32pm

re: #177 MandyManners

Bubushka?

There's a striking resemblance...

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That's Mr. President to you Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:24:03pm

re: #194 MandyManners

How ya' doing, ya' fuckin' Commie bastard!

I need some tooth floss.

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Bobblehead Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:24:04pm

re: #165 yochanan

i would like to see Sarah Palin in a pair of those.

I'll bet she's already got a pair, maybe with higher heels. She probably looks spectacular in them.

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SasquatchOnSteroids Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:24:05pm

re: #188 That's Mr. President to you

Hello everyone.

Just thought I'd stop in after a very busy day and ask for some information.

I know that LGF has quite a few folks who enjoy hunting and the outdoors.

I have been kissing a bear's ass all day and I need to know how to get the hair out of my teeth. Any tips? Thanks in advance.

yeah,

QUIT
KISSING
BEAR
ASS.

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SixDegrees Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:24:17pm

re: #176 Rancher

Hard to decide if I should upding or downding you for that.

I know what you mean. No matter how hard I tried to avoid it, I still got that image in my head, and I'm going to need a melon scoop to get rid of it.

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:24:33pm

re: #191 buzzsawmonkey

You have to let them come easily; don't faucet.

Too often I let these threads wrench my heart.

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Picayune Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:24:39pm

re: #167 doppelganglander

No smoke here. It will remain confidential until the deal is done, then I can post pics to assuage your doubt, but not prior, unless it becomes public by other means before the dinner. Due to my info, I believe Roger Stone is probably correct, that's all I am saying. No intent to tease or blow smoke.

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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:24:43pm

re: #188 That's Mr. President to you

Hello everyone.

Just thought I'd stop in after a very busy day and ask for some information.

I know that LGF has quite a few folks who enjoy hunting and the outdoors.

I have been kissing a bear's ass all day and I need to know how to get the hair out of my teeth. Any tips? Thanks in advance.

I've heard that peanuts work well.

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:25:10pm

re: #196 SixDegrees

There's a striking resemblance...

You cracked my screen.

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Bobblehead Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:25:11pm

re: #184 buzzsawmonkey

If so, I'm sure we'll plumb the depths.

Or plunge right in.

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DEZes Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:25:25pm

re: #188 That's Mr. President to you

Hello everyone.

Just thought I'd stop in after a very busy day and ask for some information.

I know that LGF has quite a few folks who enjoy hunting and the outdoors.

I have been kissing a bear's ass all day and I need to know how to get the hair out of my teeth. Any tips? Thanks in advance.

Why, yes Mr. President, I recommend a ball peen hammer and a cold chisel.
///

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That's Mr. President to you Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:25:32pm

re: #203 haakondahl

I've heard that peanuts work well.

I'll call Jimmy Carter.

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DEZes Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:26:11pm

re: #201 MandyManners

Too often I let these threads wrench my heart.

Pipe down.
///

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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:26:12pm

re: #191 buzzsawmonkey

You have to let them come easily; don't faucet.

Please! A little respect for your Eljers.

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:26:24pm

re: #197 That's Mr. President to you

I need some tooth floss.

I figured you for a Waterpik kinda' guy.

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ointmentfly Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:26:34pm

re: #169 SasquatchOnSteroids

Lance and Ben Stiller goofing off before the stage....

[Link: www.livestrong.com...]

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solomonpanting Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:27:13pm

re: #188 That's Mr. President to you

Hello everyone.

Just thought I'd stop in after a very busy day and ask for some information.

I know that LGF has quite a few folks who enjoy hunting and the outdoors.

I have been kissing a bear's ass all day and I need to know how to get the hair out of my teeth. Any tips? Thanks in advance.

You want the grizzly details?

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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:27:15pm

re: #210 MandyManners

I figured you for a Waterpik kinda' guy.

Yes, but not for his teeth.

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doppelganglander Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:27:42pm

re: #202 Picayune

Then you'll forgive me if I don't believe you.

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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:28:04pm

re: #212 solomonpanting

You want the grizzly details?

Looking for the next leftist dictator to panda to.

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DEZes Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:28:17pm

re: #210 MandyManners

I figured you for a Waterpik kinda' guy.

I gotta wonder who enjoyed it more, the potus or the bear. ;)

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:28:28pm

re: #208 DEZes

Pipe down.
///

You know me: I'll just ratchet it up.

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:28:59pm

re: #213 haakondahl

Yes, but not for his teeth.

For what, then?

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pat Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:29:01pm

Hillary. Ready to give a little discipline.
Image: spy0393.jpg

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solomonpanting Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:29:15pm

re: #215 haakondahl

Looking for the next leftist dictator to panda to.

You'll have to shop around in the bear market.

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:30:27pm

Gotta' go check my chicken. bbiab

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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:30:28pm

re: #217 MandyManners

You know me: I'll just ratchet it up.

You know urine trouble when your em-bear-assing habits leave evidence.

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haakondahl Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:31:58pm

re: #218 MandyManners

For what, then?

Perhaps for attacking those annoying hairs at the source? I couldn't say.

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:32:27pm

re: #219 pat

Hillary. Ready to give a little discipline.
[Link: sarasotadetail.com...]

Image: cachorro_da_lewinsky.jpg

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MandyManners Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:32:40pm

bbiab

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Bobblehead Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:33:49pm

re: #222 haakondahl

You know urine trouble when your em-bear-assing habits leave evidence.

Damn..2 puns in one. I bow to your brilliance.

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DEZes Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:34:32pm

re: #217 MandyManners

You know me: I'll just ratchet it up.

Then we may as well tap into it.

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Lynn B. Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:37:27pm

re: #14 turn

This guy is the come back kid alright, overcoming cancer then coming back and continuing to nap the yellow Jersey. I have no doubt his top physical condition is why that chemo was able to work so well. Man those fwench are going to be really pissed off if our team wins again. Lance must have lungs down to his knees, unfreakinbelievable. Go Lance! Later all, time to go walk the lab along the American

The "American" team this year is Columbia High Road. Astana (Lance's team) is Kazakh.

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solomonpanting Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:37:59pm

re: #226 Bobblehead

Damn..2 puns in one. I bow to your brilliance.

How about three?

The male offspring of the local cattlemen always rendezvous in a certain part of the valley because that's where the son's raise meat.

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Picayune Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:39:55pm

re: #214 doppelganglander

Agreed. As soon as I know the dinner deal is released for the public, I'll post it.
Until then, I suggest you bookmark Roger Stone's article, it may be a road map to the future, but even Palin says today that no one knows that, as yet.

However, except for Cheney, she will be in the best position to score tags on Obama repeatedly regarding his policies - as unemployment rises, the stimulus falters, the economy tanks, inflation looms, and more than that 23% of her following grows more and more anxious over the present and the future.

Yes Virginia, we are living in very interesting times!

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Lynn B. Tue, Jul 7, 2009 3:41:10pm

Darn! I waited all day for this thread and then got stuck over on the Palin thread and missed it.

Got to remember to watch that spy ...

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SixDegrees Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:08:59pm

re: #230 Picayune

Agreed. As soon as I know the dinner deal is released for the public, I'll post it.
Until then, I suggest you bookmark Roger Stone's article, it may be a road map to the future, but even Palin says today that no one knows that, as yet.

However, except for Cheney, she will be in the best position to score tags on Obama repeatedly regarding his policies - as unemployment rises, the stimulus falters, the economy tanks, inflation looms, and more than that 23% of her following grows more and more anxious over the present and the future.

Yes Virginia, we are living in very interesting times!

Some Palin supporters are beginning to remind me of Paulians. A lot.

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Taqyia2Me Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:12:50pm

Kick everybody's ass Lance!

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Lynn B. Tue, Jul 7, 2009 4:19:36pm

re: #121 Picayune

Let's just say a little bird told me of her plans for dinner in 3 months, and based on that, I believe that Roger Stone is perhaps correct in his assessment:
[Link: stonezone.com...]

Wow. Comparing Palin to Richard Nixon! Is that a recipe for success or what?

I believe I'd like some of what Roger Stone is smoking.

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Buck Tue, Jul 7, 2009 6:24:35pm

re: #90 SteveC

How in the hell do we take Zelaya's side in this? Honduras has a democratically elected government; he said "I've got a great idea! Why don't I become President for life?" and the people (backed by the army) told him "That's the stupidest idea we've ever heard of!"

So how exactly do we back the wannabe dictator on this one?

In fact when President Zelaya proposed the reform extending his term, he caused Article 239 of the Constitution of Honduras, to take effect. The Supreme Court and the attorney general were following the rule of law and the Constitution of Honduras. Obama knows this, and lies when he says the removal was illegal.

Article 239 — No citizen that has already served as head of the Executive Branch can be President or Vice-President.

Whoever violates this law or proposes its reform, as well as those that support such violation directly or indirectly, will immediately cease in their functions and will be unable to hold any public office for a period of 10 years.

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SFGoth Tue, Jul 7, 2009 7:07:13pm

Let's end this thread now - he's no Obama.

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freedombilly Wed, Jul 8, 2009 9:38:53am

re: #13 Charles

There was serious carnage on this stage - several crashes. The route had lots of unusually narrow roads.

Was the most unique time trial I have ever seen for sure. Not the usual fluidity because of the many turns. It was great to see a hill so quickly into the stage as well.

Any Bruyneel team is seemingly made for TTTs. Pretty ironic that the ISO didn't limit the time losses on the stage as they did in '03 because they weren't as a worried about Lance.

Maybe they should have been!

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