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1 Truck Monkey  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:27:48pm

Shocka! You would think that the Islamonazis would unclench at least until the White House representative left the building.

2 opnion  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:28:08pm

I don't think that it is overstating that Obama & some members of his Administration have an interesting relationship with Islam.
His first impulse in Iran was to defend the clerics rather than the opposition.

3 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:28:53pm

How nice of them to engage this group. I'm sure at the end they all saw the error of their ways and will be tolerant of all from this day forward.

/what I want to say would and should be deleted

4 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:29:26pm

Water is wet. The sky is blue. (Unless you live in Oregon, where it is normally a murky gray.)

5 DEZes  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:31:07pm

"My conclusion is that there should be more jihad,"

Completely unclenched.

6 WinterCat  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:31:44pm

I think the WH strategy is to bring them into enlightenment by embracing them and showing them the error of their ways. I'm bettin' it ain't gonna work.

7 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:32:43pm
ISNA Convention

/held over the 4th of July weekend, you know, so they could celebrate their American patriotism and desire to assimilate, I'm sure American flags were in evidence everywhere

8 itellu3times  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:33:01pm

re: #4 EmmmieG

Water is wet. The sky is blue. (Unless you live in Oregon, where it is normally a murky gray.)

Sugar is sweet.
And [blank] the Joos.
/

9 opnion  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:34:12pm

re: #7 Killian Bundy

/held over the 4th of July weekend, you know, so they could celebrate their American patriotism and desire to assimilate, I'm sure American flags were in evidence everywhere

Count on it, Jihadi doodle dandies.

10 LatinGent  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:34:37pm

Fisting convention.

11 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:34:43pm

re: #8 itellu3times

Sugar is sweet.
And [blank] the Joos.
/

What? What goes in the blank?

Emulate? (Like build yourself something instead of squatting in murk for 60 years?)
Respect?
Listen to?

//I can't figure it out.

12 jvic  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:36:41pm

ISNA isn't an extremist hate group.

No, they're a mainstream hate group.
*****************
I wrote that as a joke but realized that it isn't.

13 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:36:56pm

Before everybody gets too carried away let's remember a little history here; Bush sent the Secretary of State. At least Obama only sent a low level outreach stooge.....
From State Dept., Advice for Muslim Convention

American Muslims met with Under Secretary of State Karen P. Hughes on Friday at an Islamic convention here to offer advice and assistance as she began an initiative to improve the flagging image of the United States among Muslims overseas.
...
Ms. Hughes met separately with leaders of Muslim organizations, young people and a delegation from England that was among an estimated 40,000 here for the annual convention of the Islamic Society of North America. The society is an umbrella group of mosques and Islamic centers in the United States and Canada.

"It's all talk right now and unclear what the concrete steps are," Rubina Khan, treasurer of the Muslim Students Association, said. "But if we can form a relationship with anybody in the administration who has that power, then obviously we should try."

Some Muslim leaders who met Ms. Hughes said they were gratified to be consulted and impressed with her willingness to listen. A few said she seemed unaware of how fearful many American Muslims had become of government surveillance and intrusions on their civil liberties.

14 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:38:00pm
While many panels featured criticism of U.S. policy and law enforcement, one stood out for its hate-filled rhetoric, and ISNA officials should have seen it coming a mile away. During a "meet the authors" session, Imam Warith Deen Umar, former head of the New York state prison chaplain program managed to:

Argue that key Obama aides are "Israeli," proving Jews "have control of the world."
Malign the motives of Jews active in the Civil Rights movement.
Portray the Holocaust as punishment of Jews for being "serially disobedient to Allah."
Insinuate that Hurricane Katrina was a result of tolerance for homosexuality.

These people haven't changed. At All.
Sunshine ain't gonna change 'em.

15 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:38:12pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Yep, and that worked out well too. /

16 itellu3times  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:38:37pm

re: #11 EmmmieG

Arabs they are a funny race,
They hallal the meat and then blow up the place.

/translated mutated from the traditional French version

17 Kragar  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:39:02pm
18 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:39:12pm

I presume ISNA was thoroughly vetted....the BO administration is creativing a soft environment for jihadis world wide, except for meddling with the Taliban of course....no good will come from this....I give up

19 pat  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:39:17pm

Funny how Washington keeps sending representatives to the Muslim get togethers, but the representatives never seem nto get the picture.

20 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:41:02pm

re: #15 pingjockey

Obama doesn't seem to be kissing up the CAIR but ISNA is probably a worse organization.

21 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:41:02pm

re: #19 pat

Funny how Washington keeps sending representatives to the Muslim get togethers, but the representatives never seem nto get the picture.

Well one day maybe they will send me.

22 unrealizedviewpoint  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:41:25pm

re: #19 pat

Funny how Washington keeps sending representatives to the Muslim get togethers, but the representatives never seem nto get the picture.

Alligators eat representatives last.
/

23 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:41:37pm

The muslims ought to be scared shitless. I mean there's a zillion of them at last count. Well, if da Joooos are running EVERYTHING, there must be 10 zillion of them around.

24 Buster  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:41:37pm

This is "Mainstream" Islam? Kinda their version of a gathering of Methodists? It seems they have more in common with Fred Phelps. I am glad POTUS seeks dialogue, they clearly are just misunderstood.

25 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:42:05pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

Obama doesn't seem to be kissing up the CAIR but ISNA is probably a worse organization.

No your right, Obama went straight to the top and kissed up top the Saudi's and Egyptians.
/yeah I know Bush did some also

26 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:42:17pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

at least in 2005 we were killing AQ by the boatload in Iraq...for what tha's worth

27 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:42:26pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout
They seem to have the same talking points...Da Jooos did it!

28 kansas  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:42:38pm

It's always about Bush.

29 Nevergiveup  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:42:40pm

re: #23 pingjockey

The muslims ought to be scared shitless. I mean there's a zillion of them at last count. Well, if da Joooos are running EVERYTHING, there must be 10 zillion of them around.

Ain't yeah ever heard of the "silent" jews?

30 WinterCat  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:42:55pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

Obama doesn't seem to be kissing up the CAIR but ISNA is probably a worse organization.

Didn't he hire a CAIR lawyer?

31 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:43:59pm

re: #29 Nevergiveup
Hah! The Hush A Jew Bombs! Everything is nice and quiet around the missle factory in Gaza, then boom!

32 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:45:09pm

re: #28 kansas

It's always about Bush.

/the Obama lovers just can't let go, kind of like Palin

33 kansas  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:46:31pm

re: #32 Killian Bundy

/the Obama lovers just can't let go, kind of like Palin

Palin? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

34 MandyManners  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:47:21pm
Antisemitic conspiracies and hate speech were at the ISNA Convention — along with Barack Obama’s Senior Advisor for Public Engagement and International Affairs, Valerie Jarrett:...

I HOPE EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WASN'T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW!

35 Killian Bundy  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:47:23pm

re: #33 kansas

Palin? Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

/gone but not forgotten

36 opnion  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:47:28pm

re: #32 Killian Bundy

/the Obama lovers just can't let go, kind of like Palin

Libs think that Bush is so doofus that he couldn't find his own butt with a road map. Do they ever wonder how he beat them twice?

37 Rancher  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:48:10pm
In her remarks, Senior Advisor for Public Engagement and International Affairs Valerie Jarrett noted she was the first White House official to address ISNA. She spoke in general terms about interfaith dialogue and cooperation. She praised her hosts for "the diversity of American organizations, and ideas that are represented and will be debated" at the convention.

And yes, the ideas that were represented and debated were what you would expect, including the idea that Obama's top advisers are "Israelites" and therefore Jews rule the world.

38 Kragar  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:48:11pm

re: #36 opnion

Libs think that Bush is so doofus that he couldn't find his own butt with a road map. Do they ever wonder how he beat them twice?

Karl Rove

39 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:48:12pm

re: #32 Killian Bundy

/the Obama lovers just can't let go, kind of like Palin

stole my post....anyway there is only one reason agents of the federal govt should attend this conference and that is intel...padding the database...I'm sure they could find some monetary connection to the big green Hez if they tried...pandering is not protecting American citizens...regardless of which administration does it

40 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:48:34pm

re: #30 WinterCat

Didn't he hire a CAIR lawyer?

No, not really. It was a lawyer (Joe Sandler) who complained about Robert Spencer speaking to YAF (A white nationalist student group).

41 opnion  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:48:57pm

re: #38 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Karl Rove

Stolen in Florida!

42 Adrenalyn  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:49:21pm

so if an 0bama advisor was there
that would make this a left wing event ?

43 kansas  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:50:12pm

re: #40 Killgore Trout

No, not really. It was a lawyer (Joe Sandler) who complained about Robert Spencer speaking to YAF (A white nationalist student group).

As racist as the ISNA sounds, the white nationalists don't sound any worse.

44 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:50:26pm

re: #36 opnion

They don't wonder at all. He stole the election, remember? Sheesh. Gotta tell you everything.

//////// and then some

45 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:50:26pm

re: #41 opnion

Stolen in Florida!

I voted for Hanging Chad and all I got was this T-shirt.

46 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:51:57pm

re: #43 kansas

As racist as the ISNA sounds, the white nationalists don't sound any worse.

except there are tens of millions of Islamic extremists and they are already armed to the teeth

47 opnion  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:52:16pm

re: #44 ArmyWife

They don't wonder at all. He stole the election, remember? Sheesh. Gotta tell you everything.

//////// and then some

I caught up on #41. It was the chads & the Democrat precincts that supressed the Democrat votes.

48 tradewind  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:52:25pm

Mark Sanford should be breathing a sigh of relief that his mistress was Brazilian, and not one of those moderate muslim women like Steve McNair's, who put her own spin on the honor killing thing...

49 kansas  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:52:50pm

re: #46 albusteve

except there are tens of millions of Islamic extremists and they are already armed to the teeth

Well then by all means lets ignore that and make sure to bring every single instance of some white shithead being an asshole. ///

50 WinterCat  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:52:50pm

Well, I am done for tonight. Lovely chatting with you all.

51 yochanan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:53:18pm

re: #34 MandyManners

get out your clue bat ms mandy

52 solomonpanting  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:53:38pm
Imam Warith Deen Umar, former head of the New York state prison chaplain program

Old habits are hard to break.

53 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:53:41pm

re: #50 WinterCat

Well, I am done for tonight. Lovely chatting with you all.

Have a great evening!

54 opnion  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:53:43pm

re: #45 SasquatchOnSteroids

I voted for Hanging Chad and all I got was this T-shirt.

Gore got sillier & sillier during the Florida recount. The adults on the US Supreme Court had to end it.

55 kansas  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:53:44pm

re: #51 yochanan

get out your clue bat ms mandy

Food fight.

56 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:54:29pm

re: #49 kansas

I don't think anyone is ignoring the issue

57 kansas  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:54:46pm

re: #54 opnion

Gore got sillier & sillier during the Florida recount. The adults on the US Supreme Court had to end it.

No, I heard Al Gore say for the sake of our unity as a nation "I conthede."

58 kansas  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:55:17pm

re: #56 ArmyWife

I don't think anyone is ignoring the issue

The MSM?

59 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:56:10pm

re: #58 kansas

I meant here. Sorry! No, they like to point out "right wing extremists" rather than calling them out for what they are. Same with Islam.

60 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:56:33pm

re: #54 opnion

Gore got sillier & sillier during the Florida recount. The adults on the US Supreme Court had to end it.

Remember the butterfly ballot ?

61 kansas  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:57:34pm

re: #59 ArmyWife

I meant here. Sorry! No, they like to point out "right wing extremists" rather than calling them out for what they are. Same with Islam.

Exactly. I should have been more clear.

62 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:57:50pm

re: #13 Killgore Trout

Before everybody gets too carried away let's remember a little history here; Bush sent the Secretary of State. At least Obama only sent a low level outreach stooge.....
From State Dept., Advice for Muslim Convention

That is incorrect and a tenuous characterization at best:

1. Bush did not send the Secretary of State to this convention but Karen Hughes who was Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs.

2. The position of Under Secretary of State for Public Diplomacy and Public Affairs is subject to nomination and subject to congressional approval.

3. Valerie Jarrett is not "some stooge" sent on behalf of the Obama White House. She is Senior Advisor and Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Engagement.

4. The Senior Advisor and Assistant to the President for Intergovernmental Affairs and Public Engagement position is not subject to the nomination process and congressional approval. She is White House staff member and a part of the White House Office of Public Engagement.

The differences are distinct and Valerie Jarrett is an executive member of the White House staff.

63 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:58:40pm

re: #56 ArmyWife

I don't think anyone is ignoring the issue

no, it's just given the wrong sort of attention, just like recently in Iran...any time a group or an individual proposes that Israelis are racist mongers...everytime the arey accused of genocide and other crimes, the feds should denounce them resoundingly...they don't and that makes our policy complicit with that of the Palis, the Mullahs, Hez and all the rest

64 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:58:55pm

Goddamn ALL extremist assholes to the fiery pit!

65 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 3:59:39pm

Bad news for the Narcissist in Chief. Those who approve trending down while those not approving trending up...

[Link: www.gallup.com...]

66 kansas  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:01:08pm

re: #65 ArmyWife

Bad news for the Narcissist in Chief. Those who approve trending down while those not approving trending up...

[Link: www.gallup.com...]


For as bad as I see him as being I don't see how so many still approve. And he still has 96% of blacks. Are they getting something I'm not seeing?

67 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:01:34pm

re: #65 ArmyWife
Hmmm...is the bloom wearing off? Or have some of the moderates suddenly woke up and said "what the hell have we done"?

68 Cygnus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:01:42pm

re: #10 LatinGent

Fisting convention.

They held it at Folsom Street this year? Ewwwww.

69 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:03:00pm

re: #67 pingjockey

Hmmm...is the bloom wearing off? Or have some of the moderates suddenly woke up and said "what the hell have we done"?


that's exactly what's happening

70 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:03:52pm

re: #67 pingjockey

Hmmm...is the bloom wearing off? Or have some of the moderates suddenly woke up and said "what the hell have we done"?

I think America will give Obama a while yet before it judges how much it likes Chicago politics...

71 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:04:10pm

OT, why can't guys keep their fucking pants zipped? McNair was killed cause his mistress thought he was screwing around on her! Sheesh.

72 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:04:38pm

re: #36 opnion

Do they ever wonder how he beat them twice?

They cover that by claiming that he stole the election on 2000.

73 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:04:47pm

re: #67 pingjockey

Hmmm...is the bloom wearing off? Or have some of the moderates suddenly woke up and said "what the hell have we done"?

Jumping on the bandwagon isn't just for sports.
I realize that now.

74 mikalm  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:05:07pm

re: #49 kansas

Well then by all means lets ignore that and make sure to bring every single instance of some white shithead being an asshole. ///

That seems to increasingly be the SOP for certain folks here.

75 bbuddha  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:06:07pm

re: #71 pingjockey

It's so hard to trust a guy who's cheating on his wife with you
jeez what an idiot

76 pingjockey  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:06:33pm

BBL!

77 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:06:39pm

re: #62 Gus 802

Ah, the way the margins were set I missed the "under" part of Sec o' State.
Regardless, Bush sent representatives too.

78 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:07:14pm

slimy dems beg for mercy in the House...hahaha!...looks like the Pelosi/CIA allegations will not go away, nor should they


[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

79 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:08:14pm
80 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:09:33pm

re: #78 albusteve

slimy dems beg for mercy in the House...hahaha!...looks like the Pelosi/CIA allegations will not go away, nor should they


[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Reyes is another Texas kook with a long record. Luckily for me, he is a Dem, and I will not apologize for his sorry butt.

81 yochanan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:10:02pm

re: #79 buzzsawmonkey

hush buzz liberals think racism only goes one way.

82 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:12:26pm

re: #77 Killgore Trout

Ah, the way the margins were set I missed the "under" part of Sec o' State.
Regardless, Bush sent representatives too.

There's still distinctions:

Valerie Jarrett for Obama:

A top aide to President Barack Obama provided a keynote address at last weekend's 46th Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) national convention, a gathering that attracted thousands of people and also featured anti-Semitic, homophobic rhetoric and defense of the terrorist group Hezbollah.

Karen Hughes for Bush:

Ms. Hughes met separately with leaders of Muslim organizations, young people and a delegation from England that was among an estimated 40,000 here for the annual convention of the Islamic Society of North America. The society is an umbrella group of mosques and Islamic centers in the United States and Canada.

There is a big difference between an undersecretary meeting separately and a senior White House advisor giving a keynote speech.

83 J.S.  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:13:02pm

re: #77 Killgore Trout

how many times have I heard Islamists whine -- "But, mawhw, they do it too!" Reminds me of balling two-year-olds...(really drives me up the wall...I think every adult should realize that saying "He does it too!" is just another means to disavow any and all responsibility, and simply point the finger at someone else...)

84 ArmyWife  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:13:09pm

re: #67 pingjockey

I think all signs are pointing to the bloom wearing off - not fast enough for me, mind you, but its turning ever so slowly.

85 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:13:31pm

Treasury Picks Nine Managers for Toxic Asset Program

Treasury officials said the program could buy up to $40 billion in distressed assets initially. That's far below the potential $1 trillion in assets that the government originally hoped to take off the banks' books through purchases of soured securities and a separate program that would have dealt with bad loans.

The program's goals have been scaled back partly because many banks' financial situations have improved in recent weeks, reducing their need to sell the troubled securities.


One large reason why the bank's financial conditions have improved is the change to mark to market valuation. No longer do they have to value applicable assets at spot market prices.

Another big reason is they are borrowing money at very little cost from the Fed's.

86 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:14:19pm

re: #74 mikalm

That seems to increasingly be the SOP for certain folks here.

Yep.

87 Erik The Red  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:14:42pm

re: #70 HoosierHoops

I think America will give Obama a while yet before it judges how much it likes Chicago politics...

Way more time than he deserves.

88 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:15:02pm

re: #80 OldLineTexan

Reyes is another Texas kook with a long record. Luckily for me, he is a Dem, and I will not apologize for his sorry butt.

it really sucks..."let's not talk about it anymore"...Pelosi should be called to the carpet

89 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:15:39pm

re: #88 albusteve

it really sucks..."let's not talk about it anymore"...Pelosi should be called to the carpet

2010 will be the first chance.

90 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:16:44pm

Some recent news regarding Valerie Jarrett:

Blagojevich aide pleads guilty in corruption case
By MIKE ROBINSON – 4 hours ago]

Harris pleaded guilty before U.S. District Judge James B. Zagel to a single count of wire fraud for a November 2008 phone conversation about appointing Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett to the seat being vacated by Obama's election as president.

In his plea agreement, Harris outlined a scheme under which Blagojevich would get a job as head of a union-sponsored organization, Change to Win, in exchange for giving Jarrett the Senate seat. Officials of the Service Employees International Union were to broker the scheme had it gone forward. It did not.

Jarrett, now a White House adviser, was not mentioned by name in the plea agreement but has been identified in the past as the Senate Candidate B who was to get the seat under the plan. Jarrett eventually took her name out of contention for the seat and has been accused of no wrongdoing in the case.

Right, she EVENTUALLY removed her name from the running but this was AFTER everything blew up in their faces.

Obama and Chicago politics, perfect together.

91 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:17:53pm
He (Umar) has a website promoting a past book, Judaiology, which features an excerpt describing "the inordinacy of Jewish power." Jews, he wrote, are "an amazing people who can steal you blind as you watch. If you discover the theft, they can put you to sleep. If you wake up to them, they can put you back to sleep with mind games, tricks of fancy, smoke screens, and magic. Henry Ford almost uncovered them."

But we stopped him....
We stopped Henry.

BACK TO WORK !

92 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:18:02pm

re: #87 Erik The Red

Way more time than he deserves.

America gave him four years; all the Chicago connections were right out there in the open for anyone with eyes to see.

93 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:18:56pm

re: #87 Erik The Red

Way more time than he deserves.

what's up bud?
Hope today finds you well....Sleeping yet?

94 J.S.  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:19:07pm

Speaking of hollering, "He does it, too!" Jeanne Moos on CNN did a clip comparing the fly-swatting capabilities of Obama vs. Ahmadinejad. lol It was no contest (clip also included Ahmadinejad zipping up his fly..) It was hilarious...

95 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:19:20pm

re: #89 OldLineTexan

2010 will be the first chance.

not a snowballs chance in hell for her to lose

96 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:19:29pm

re: #92 OldLineTexan

America gave him four years; all the Chicago connections were right out there in the open for anyone with eyes to see.

53% of Americans. The other 47% are sane.

97 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:20:29pm

re: #95 albusteve

not a snowballs chance in hell for her to lose

Add more opposition to the House; every little bit hurts.

Personally? The drones will elect her forever, but that appears to be true anywhere these days (Luap Nor).

98 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:20:32pm
99 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:21:11pm

re: #96 VegasRick

53% of Americans. The other 47% are sane.

there must be at least 10% in the middle there...if they would have spent one our looking at him he would have easily been defeated....Americans don't like commies

100 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:21:28pm

OT: Hot Air shills for disastrous Paulian legislation.....
Video: DeMint exposes parliamentary hypocrisy in Dem-controlled Senate

101 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:21:37pm

re: #96 VegasRick

53% of Americans. The other 47% are sane.

You know the one correct utterance he's made, IMO? "I won".

/there you have it ... close only counts in horseshoes and handgrenades

102 Erik The Red  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:21:37pm

re: #93 HoosierHoops

what's up bud?
Hope today finds you well....Sleeping yet?

Hey 2H. No, I am still not sleeping. Went and bought new pillows today, maybe that will work. Other than that I went to go and see a few rental units today and am going in a few minutes to see another one. Once I find a house for my family I will feel a lot better.

103 Clubsec  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:21:57pm

Yo Killgore ... ditto what Gus said in #62, #82 & # 90

Strike one, Steerrike TWO, StrrriiiKKKE THREEee ... Yer OUT!

104 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:22:21pm

re: #98 buzzsawmonkey

'Course, Henry Ford distributed copies of his antisemitic screed The International Jew through his Ford dealerships all through the Twenties--in, among other places, Germany. It may well have helped lay the groundwork for Hitler's antisemitic rantings. Hitler was a great admirer of Ford, so much so that he adopted Ford's assembly-line techniques to the production of death.

#@&^%$*(!

105 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:24:02pm

Speaking of chicago/Illinois politics:
Former Blago aide pleads guilty to fraud


A former top aide to Rod Blagojevich pleaded guilty today to wire fraud, admitting he discussed having his then boss appoint an adviser to President Obama to the U.S. Senate in exchange for financial benefits for the ex-governor.

The 26-page plea deal details various conversations that allegedly took place between Blagojevich and his former chief of staff, John Harris, concerning who would fill Obama’s open seat.

Harris’ plea deal also reveals a new allegation against the ex-governor concerning an unidentified “Senate Candidate D,” who last year allegedly plotted to turn over money from the candidate’s own campaign fund to Blagojevich in exchange for the appointment.


Then there's this:


Lisa Madigan won't run for U.S. Senate, governor

Sun-Times Washington Bureau Chief Lynn Sweet reports on her blog that Attorney General Lisa Madigan will not run for a U.S. Senate seat--despite wooing by President Obama, Rahm Emanuel, Valerie Jarrett, Dick Durbin and the Democratic Senate political operation based in Washington.

She will not run for governor. Instead, Madigan is announcing Wednesday afternoon that she is running for another term as Illinois Attorney General.

A "Candidate D" gets caught up in the investigation, and then Amy Madigan stops running for the two offices she's been chasing for six months and says she loves her job.

Right.

106 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:24:32pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

OT: Hot Air shills for disastrous Paulian legislation.....
Video: DeMint exposes parliamentary hypocrisy in Dem-controlled Senate

Link says "Error 404 - Not Found."

107 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:24:52pm

re: #90 Gus 802

Right, she EVENTUALLY removed her name from the running but this was AFTER everything blew up in their faces.

Obama and Chicago politics, perfect together.

Some how, you just know Bush will be blamed for this.

108 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:25:50pm

re: #103 Clubsec

Yo Killgore ... ditto what Gus said in #62, #82 & # 90

Strike one, Steerrike TWO, StrrriiiKKKE THREEee ... Yer OUT!

add #100 to that.

109 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:26:20pm

re: #104 SasquatchOnSteroids

#@&^%$*(!

and he was good buddies with Edison, Firestone etc....hmmmm?

110 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:26:43pm

re: #102 Erik The Red

Hey 2H. No, I am still not sleeping. Went and bought new pillows today, maybe that will work. Other than that I went to go and see a few rental units today and am going in a few minutes to see another one. Once I find a house for my family I will feel a lot better.

Well it's not stressful enough to move half way across the world..toy can't sleep and doing the whole house shopping thing with a displaced family..
Regards Erik
When things settle down I'll FED-EX you a bottle of Good Scotch....
Welcome home dude

111 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:26:47pm

re: #99 albusteve

there must be at least 10% in the middle there...if they would have spent one our looking at him he would have easily been defeated....Americans don't like commies

One less hour watching AI.

112 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:26:54pm

re: #107 3 wood

Some how, you just know Bush will be blamed for this.

Yeah, when in doubt "blame Bush." I can see them coming up with some conspiracy theory involving "Bush lawyers."

113 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:27:17pm
114 Erik The Red  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:27:21pm

re: #110 HoosierHoops

Well it's not stressful enough to move half way across the world..toy can't sleep and doing the whole house shopping thing with a displaced family..
Regards Erik
When things settle down I'll FED-EX you a bottle of Good Scotch....
Welcome home dude

LOL. Thanks mate.

115 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:28:32pm

re: #111 VegasRick

One less hour watching AI.

the Golden Hour...such a small amt of time compared to the misery BO will wreak upon the US

116 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:29:02pm

re: #105 3 wood

Speaking of chicago/Illinois politics:
Former Blago aide pleads guilty to fraud

A "Candidate D" gets caught up in the investigation, and then Amy Madigan stops running for the two offices she's been chasing for six months and says she loves her job.

Right.

There you go.

Candidate B is Valerie Jarrett.

Candidate D is Amy Madigan.

117 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:29:05pm

re: #102 Erik The Red

Hey 2H. No, I am still not sleeping. Went and bought new pillows today, maybe that will work. Other than that I went to go and see a few rental units today and am going in a few minutes to see another one. Once I find a house for my family I will feel a lot better.

I'm hoping the best for you and your family and welcome home.

118 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:29:30pm

re: #114 Erik The Red

LOL. Thanks mate.

spend 16 hrs at Paramount Studios....you'll sleep like a baby

119 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:30:01pm

re: #116 Gus 802

There you go.

Candidate B is Valerie Jarrett.

Candidate D is Amy Madigan.


Ding, ding, ding!

120 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:30:13pm

re: #115 albusteve

the Golden Hour...such a small amt of time compared to the misery BO will wreak upon the US

Yep. Hopefully enough of them will learn a lesson.

121 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:30:15pm

re: #107 3 wood

Some how, you just know Bush will be blamed for this.


And the Jooos - don't forget, Bush and the Joooos will be blamed for it!

122 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:30:42pm

re: #119 3 wood

Ding, ding, ding!

Do I win a years supply of Eskimo Pies?

/

123 Mithrax  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:31:11pm

re: #122 Gus 802

Do I win a years supply of Eskimo Pies?

/

What would YOU do for a Klondike bar?

124 Erik The Red  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:31:23pm

re: #117 3 wood

I'm hoping the best for you and your family and welcome home.

Thanks 3wood. BBIAB

125 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:31:40pm
126 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:32:33pm

re: #121 realwest

And the Jooos - don't forget, Bush and the Joooos will be blamed for it!

If they can't "gin" up evidence any ill mankind has suffered, past, present, and future, then DKos and HuffPo will start having a conniption fit Our Man Obama and the DCom Congress ain't doing their jobs.

127 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:32:45pm

re: #119 3 wood
Sorry I'm coming in late my friend, but who were candidates A and C !

128 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:32:56pm

re: #114 Erik The Red

LOL. Thanks mate.

When I moved, all he sent me was corn plasters!

/

129 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:33:01pm

re: #123 Mithrax

What would YOU do for a Klondike bar?

Steal yours, duh! ;)

130 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:33:08pm

re: #122 Gus 802

No, you win the Cubs Championship trophies from the last 100 years.

Sorry Cub fan friends, I could not resist. It was just sitting right there and....

131 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:33:17pm

re: #123 Mithrax

What would YOU do for a Klondike bar?

my all time favorite chocolate/chocolate

132 Clubsec  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:33:48pm

Speaking of BDS.
Boy the press is all over this Inspector General thing ain't they!
Wow, just like when Bush fired those AG's. Front page news for WEEKS!
Or when Clinton fired 93 (count 'em) Attorney General's all around the country and specifically high on his list was the AG in Arkansas cleaning up some lose ends on Whitewater. Right?
Yea, the press is ALL OVER this IG thing.

Aren't they?

133 kansas  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:33:55pm

re: #106 wrenchwench

Link says "Error 404 - Not Found."

Trout has a nasty habit of broken links.

134 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:34:02pm

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey

There are clown dyke bars?

Yukon do whatever you want!

135 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:34:08pm

re: #118 albusteve

spend 16 hrs at Paramount Studios....you'll sleep like a baby

I've never seen the end of Independence day....Maybe half way...Better than sleeping pills

136 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:34:45pm

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey

There are clown dyke bars?

Yep. There is one right across the street from where I work. It's named "Tongue in Groove". Oh, wait ! That kind of bar!

137 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:34:56pm

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey

There are clown dyke bars?

It's a whole 'nother dimension to "Honk! Honk!"

/

138 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:35:00pm
139 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:35:19pm

re: #127 realwest

Sorry I'm coming in late my friend, but who were candidates A and C !


Jesse Jackson Jr. and a moonbat lefty Congress lady whose name I can't pronounce or come close to spelling.

140 kansas  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:35:24pm

re: #125 buzzsawmonkey

There are clown dyke bars?

Image: 03-insane-clown-posse-082407.jpg

141 jvic  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:35:51pm

re: #7 Killian Bundy

/held over the 4th of July weekend, you know, so they could celebrate their American patriotism and desire to assimilate, I'm sure American flags were in evidence everywhere

We know the answer to that:

re: #520 lobo91

re: #478 Killian Bundy ..../A Muslim 4th of July: "Life, Liberty, & The Pursuit of Happiness"

Either you forgot a sarcasm tag, or you're unaware of the many connections between that event's sponsors (ISNA and MSA) and terrorism.

Indeed. I clicked that link, and went on to the event's link, with the hope that I'd see moderate Islam adapting to Western modernity.

No mention of patriotism. No mention of separation between state and church (or temple, mosque, sacred grove, etc). No mention of the right of individuals to practice the faith of their choice (or none).

I continue to hope for a moderate Islam that is compatible with democratic pluralism. However, hopes are not outcomes. I wonder if practitioners of taqqiya say 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' in the same sense that they say 'religion of peace'.

142 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:35:53pm

re: #133 kansas

Trout has a nasty habit of broken links.

He fixed it within 7 comments of mine. I thought that was pretty good.

143 kansas  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:36:23pm

re: #142 wrenchwench

He fixed it within 7 comments of mine. I thought that was pretty good.

My apologies.

144 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:36:46pm

re: #135 HoosierHoops

I've never seen the end of Independence day....Maybe half way...Better than sleeping pills

PS is the premier amusement park in the world, next to DW...really a cool place...the Incredible Hulk is one of the best coasters ever...love that place!

145 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:36:58pm

re: #132 Clubsec

Aren't they?


1. But, but, but, but Bush!

2. We inherited this mess.


Does that cover it?

146 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:37:35pm

re: #126 FurryOldGuyJeans
Oh I don't know, I think by their standards the Dem's are doing their jobs ok!
Take over most of auto industry - check
Take control of Major Banks - check
Repeal Welfare to Work rule - check
Make US Apology World tour - check, twice
Cap and Trade - almost a check, but G7 and some Senate Dems may slow down if not beat it!
Health Care "reform" (a/k/a/ Chicago style takeover) soon coming to a theater near you!
Solidarity with Chavez and Ortega - Check!
Speak no evil about Freedom or Democracy in Iran- check.
Geez, he's doing pretty good from the KosKidz and Huffpoo side of the fence!

147 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:37:37pm

re: #113 Killgore Trout

Ooops, my link stinks....
Video: DeMint exposes parliamentary hypocrisy in Dem-controlled Senate

Sure, Ron Paul is the sponsor of the bill. You forgot to mention that there are also 249 co-sponsors and includes a great deal of Democrats. If HA is being a "shill" then the 249 co-sponsors are also "shilling" for this act: H.R. 1207 Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009.

The video in question is also regarding parliamentary procedures and congressional hackery on the part of the Democratic leadership. It pays particular focus on Rule 16 and barely touches on HR 1207.

With 249 co-sponsors however one has to wonder what the motivation is behind the opposition to this bill.

148 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:38:01pm

How come our resident Our Man Obama boosters won't link to polls like this?

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Wednesday, July 08, 2009

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 32% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-seven percent (37%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of –5.

The number who strongly disapprove inched up another point to the highest level measured to date and the overall Approval Index is at the lowest level yet for Obama (see trends).

In the wake of last week’s disappointing report on job loss, consumer confidence has fallen to the lowest level in two months. The Rasmussen Investor Index shows investor confidence falling to the lowest level in three months. The number of investors who say the economy is getting worse jumped from 43% before the jobs report to 51% today.

149 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:39:03pm

re: #123 Mithrax

What would YOU do for a Klondike bar?

I'd steal Denzel's Cell phone and call every single number on it... Then pitch it in the river.....
Mmmmm..Klondike bar!
/You just know everybody answers.. Suckers!
*wink*

150 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:39:09pm

re: #132 Clubsec
"Why, whatever Inspector General thing are you talking about?" - MSM

151 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:39:10pm

re: #148 FurryOldGuyJeans

How come our resident Our Man Obama boosters won't link to polls like this?

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Wednesday, July 08, 2009

he'll blow it off and call Americans stupid...bet me

152 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:39:18pm

re: #147 Gus 802

Sure, Ron Paul is the sponsor of the bill. You forgot to mention that there are also 249 co-sponsors and includes a great deal of Democrats. If HA is being a "shill" then the 249 co-sponsors are also "shilling" for this act: H.R. 1207 Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2009.

The video in question is also regarding parliamentary procedures and congressional hackery on the part of the Democratic leadership. It pays particular focus on Rule 16 and barely touches on HR 1207.

With 249 co-sponsors however one has to wonder what the motivation is behind the opposition to this bill.

Yeah, but RP is a sponsor so that automatically make this very suspect.

/..

153 brookly red  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:40:01pm

re: #148 FurryOldGuyJeans

How come our resident Our Man Obama boosters won't link to polls like this?

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Wednesday, July 08, 2009

not in the talking points...

154 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:40:10pm

re: #127 realwest

Hey real, sorry I did not get back to you today. I was real busy at work.


How is your tooth doing? They give you any good pain killers?

155 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:40:12pm

re: #151 albusteve

he'll blow it off and call Americans stupid...bet me

Do you mean Our Man Obama, or his O-bots here? The latter is what I was referring to.

156 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:40:32pm

re: #152 FurryOldGuyJeans

They're all Internet Nazis, now.

157 jayzee  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:40:46pm

A guy at my office has always been very hostile towards me. Weirdly so. Often snide remarks about my religion (Jewish). Anyway, he went. I didn't know about this at the time, but he told his friends he went down to DC for a "thing" last weekend. I aint surprised.

158 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:41:04pm

re: #139 3 wood

Jesse Jackson Jr. and a moonbat lefty Congress lady whose name I can't pronounce or come close to spelling.

LOL! Aw, c'mon, try it phonetically! YOU CAN DO IT!

159 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:41:30pm

re: #156 OldLineTexan

They're all Internet Nazis, now.

Well, in alGore's eyes I'm a climate Nazi, so there is some nice symmetry at work here.

160 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:41:47pm

re: #152 FurryOldGuyJeans

Yeah, but RP is a sponsor so that automatically make this very suspect.

/..

Right. Of course everything Obama does is NOT suspect and usually we have to hear about "well Bush did the same thing."

I'm wondering if HR 1207 is essentially the same thing as HR 2918.

161 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:42:03pm

re: #148 FurryOldGuyJeans

I expect the talking points to start any minute now.

162 Clubsec  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:42:08pm

errr ... Attorney's General
my bad

I go home now.

163 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:42:17pm

re: #158 realwest

LOL! Aw, c'mon, try it phonetically! YOU CAN DO IT!

Dingbatliberalscumbagpieceofshit smith.

164 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:42:18pm
165 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:42:49pm

re: #160 Gus 802

Right. Of course everything Obama does is NOT suspect and usually we have to hear about "well Bush did the same thing."

I'm wondering if HR 1207 is essentially the same thing as HR 2918.

There you go again, talking facts and logic instead of just going with BDS.

166 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:43:12pm

re: #158 realwest

LOL! Aw, c'mon, try it phonetically! YOU CAN DO IT!


OK it's something like Jan Shiakowski.

167 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:43:51pm

re: #161 3 wood

I expect the talking points to start any minute now.

I expect a "well Bush was....." style attack with the talking points. It is as predictable as the sun coming up in the morning.

168 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:43:53pm

re: #155 FurryOldGuyJeans

Do you mean Our Man Obama, or his O-bots here? The latter is what I was referring to.

hahaha!....bothre: #159 FurryOldGuyJeans

Well, in alGore's eyes I'm a climate Nazi, so there is some nice symmetry at work here.

yep...conservatives in CA are terrorists now as well

169 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:43:53pm

re: #164 buzzsawmonkey

Put a mezuzah on your office door and freak him out.

I'd just tell him to fuck off and die but that's just me.

170 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:44:35pm

re: #165 FurryOldGuyJeans

There you go again, talking facts and logic instead of just going with BDS.

Bush's fault!

1. Blame Bush.
2. Bush did it too.
3. Bush started it!

//

171 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:44:46pm

re: #147 Gus 802

one has to wonder what the motivation is behind the opposition to this bill.

Because it's a very bad idea to bog down the Fed with bureaucratic red tape from congress. They often have to act quickly to avert crises and there's not time to hold meetings, debates and votes in congress before they take action. Also, giving control of our monetary policy to Congress is just about the worst idea possible.

Ben Bernanke: Federal Reserve audit would constitute "takeover" by Congress

Also the Fed does operate with a certain amount of secrecy to avoid panic in the markets and insider trading. Giving congress access to this information is a recipe for disaster.
Either way, even if the legislation passes it will surely be vetoed. Even Obama is not stupid enough to let this go through.

172 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:44:51pm

re: #159 FurryOldGuyJeans

Well, in alGore's eyes I'm a climate Nazi, so there is some nice symmetry at work here.

Me, too. I got gang-trounced here one evening as a "denier", which of course is just like "Holocaust denier", as they helpfully pointed out while stuffing words in my mouth and avoiding the fact that I used "anthropogenic" in my climate change skepticism.

173 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:44:57pm

re: #164 buzzsawmonkey

Put a mezuzah on your office door and freak him out.

Hey Buzz!
Hope you are well....

174 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:45:00pm

re: #164 buzzsawmonkey

Put a mezuzah on your office door and freak him out.

I am going to have to be real Goy and ask what a mezuzah is. ;)

175 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:45:51pm

re: #170 Gus 802

Bush's fault!

1. Blame Bush.
2. Bush did it too.
3. Bush started it!

//

Now you have learned the "true" lessons. Don't make us have to re-educate you again.

176 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:45:57pm

re: #164 buzzsawmonkey

Put a mezuzah on your office door and freak him out.

Screw that. Get a burning bush.

/

177 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:46:12pm

re: #154 3 wood

Hey real, sorry I did not get back to you today. I was real busy at work.


How is your tooth doing? They give you any good pain killers?


Well my tooth be gone and I don't care how it's doing! The little nub they built up into a crown, starting UNDER THE GUM LINE still hurts a lot, but it's better.
How are y'all doing my friend?

178 David Simon  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:46:19pm
A woman in the audience reminded Umar that Jews marched with Black people during the Civil Rights movement. But, Umar said, that was not motivated by a genuine desire for justice:

"The Jews in America used the black community to advance the Jewish community. In many instances in history, they gained much of what they gained by putting the African Americans out front to get things that were necessary to get through the politics of this country and of the social setting of this country."

An appropriate follow-up question would have been, "What the fuck did you just say?"

179 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:46:36pm

re: #176 OldLineTexan

Screw that. Get a burning bush.

/

stick a Pillar of Salt on his desk

180 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:46:55pm

re: #174 FurryOldGuyJeans

I am going to have to be real Goy and ask what a mezuzah is. ;)

That's the little boxes with Torah pieces inside.

Am I right? Because I really want a Klondike Bar.

/

181 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:46:57pm

re: #169 VegasRick

I'd just tell him to fuck off and die but that's just me.

no...
Do we have a problem here?
It works

182 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:46:59pm

re: #174 FurryOldGuyJeans

I am going to have to be real Goy and ask what a mezuzah is. ;)

Mezuzah

Zionist Mall Mezuzahs

183 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:47:25pm

re: #179 albusteve

stick a Pillar of Salt on his desk

and tell him it's the last guy that gave you any shit.

/

184 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:48:10pm
185 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:48:11pm

re: #182 Alouette

Mezuzah

Zionist Mall Mezuzahs

Get the stone one ... it'll leave a bigger welt.

/

186 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:48:12pm

re: #182 Alouette

Mezuzah

Zionist Mall Mezuzahs

I thought that is what they are, but better to ask than assume. Thanks for the edumacation. :)

187 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:48:50pm
188 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:49:05pm

re: #183 OldLineTexan

and tell him it's the last guy that gave you any shit.

/

right....ha!....REMEMBER LOT'S WIFE!

189 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:49:11pm

re: #148 FurryOldGuyJeans

How come our resident Our Man Obama boosters won't link to polls like this?

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Wednesday, July 08, 2009


Ah Geez, FOGJ! I put that up in the spinoff links to the first new thread of the day, but Obama's Internet Campaign Manager avanti already shot it down cause, ya know, Rasmussen ONLY polls likely voters. And we all know votes in the graveyard won't answer their phones

190 callahan23  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:49:18pm

re: #174 FurryOldGuyJeans

I am going to have to be real Goy and ask what a mezuzah is. ;)

From Goy to Goy: A mezuzah is a

A mezuzah is a piece of parchment (often contained in a decorative case) inscribed with specified Hebrew verses from the Torah (Deuteronomy 6:4-9 and 11:13-21). These verses comprise the Jewish prayer "Shema Yisrael", beginning with the phrase: "Listen, Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One."
A mezuzah is affixed to the doorframe of Jewish homes to fulfill the mitzvah ...
191 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:49:36pm
192 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:49:54pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Even Obama is not stupid enough to let this go through.

Hope springs eternal.

193 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:49:59pm

re: #190 callahan23

gimme a Voodoo doll anyday

194 tradewind  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:50:39pm

re: #78 albusteve

Please don't throw me in that briar patch......

195 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:50:44pm

re: #191 buzzsawmonkey

That won't help if he is a Shaker.

I guess Amish the point...

196 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:51:00pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Because it's a very bad idea to bog down the Fed with bureaucratic red tape from congress. They often have to act quickly to avert crises and there's not time to hold meetings, debates and votes in congress before they take action. Also, giving control of our monetary policy to Congress is just about the worst idea possible.

Ben Bernanke: Federal Reserve audit would constitute "takeover" by Congress

Also the Fed does operate with a certain amount of secrecy to avoid panic in the markets and insider trading. Giving congress access to this information is a recipe for disaster.
Either way, even if the legislation passes it will surely be vetoed. Even Obama is not stupid enough to let this go through.

Why would a CAO audit bog down the activity of the Federal Reserve?

Doesn't the Constitution allow this type of audit on the Federal Reserve?

Does the Federal Reserve reserve the right to conduct themselves outside of congressional oversight? If so is this right codified under US law? Does it go against the Powers of Congress?

197 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:51:21pm

re: #183 OldLineTexan
ROFTLMAO! Great one OLT!

198 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:51:44pm

re: #192 OldLineTexan

Hope springs eternal.

Change smells like shit.

199 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:52:23pm

I want to see the spin on this muck-up:

July 8, 2009
White House spells Obama's name wrong
@ 2:45 pm by Eric Zimmermann

Someone might want to look into whether an impostor took President Obama's place during his trip to Russia

In a release touting an agreement between Obama and President Dmitry Medvedev over how to craft a follow-up to the START arms reduction treaty, the White House claimed the document had been signed by one "Barak Obama."

200 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:52:25pm

re: #193 albusteve

gimme a Voodoo doll anyday

That should make him Quaker in his boots

201 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:52:35pm
202 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:52:47pm

re: #196 Gus 802

Make that GAO not CAO.

203 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:52:58pm

re: #184 buzzsawmonkey

A mezuzah is a small scroll containing Torah verses which is placed on the doorpost. You may have seen the small cases which contain the scroll. They are placed on the door in observance of the Biblical commandment that "you shall write these words on the doorposts of your house, and upon your gates, that your days may be multiplied."

I'm thinking a digital picture monitor in a few years that will constantly display
the Torah verses in a scrolling fashion that you could mount in your entrance way...like those digital pictures frames....
mmmmm......

204 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:53:11pm

re: #198 VegasRick

Change smells like shit.

Took me twenty years to learn to call it fertilizer.

/

205 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:53:30pm

re: #190 callahan23
Hey there my friend! Thanks for the clarification - each of my two former wives said that the metal thingy we screwed into our apartment door frames was a way to insure we'd be passed over or something like that.
Always brought good luck though.

206 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:54:00pm

re: #189 realwest

Ah Geez, FOGJ! I put that up in the spinoff links to the first new thread of the day, but Obama's Internet Campaign Manager avanti already shot it down cause, ya know, Rasmussen ONLY polls likely voters. And we all know votes in the graveyard won't answer their phones

Gotta love the patented avanti spin machine, hard at work trying to ignore inconvenient truths.

207 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:54:36pm

re: #193 albusteve

gimme a Voodoo doll anyday

I have a couple of voodoo dolls in my "ethnic" doll collection.
As I stick the pins in, who is it I should say they're for?

208 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:54:51pm

re: #204 OldLineTexan

Took me twenty years to learn to call it fertilizer.

/

The shit coming from "0" aint gonna fertilize anything.

209 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:55:12pm

re: #177 realwest

How are y'all doing my friend?

Resting up from a couple long days. Waiting for my dulcimer project to cure so I cam put on some varnish.

One of my nephews became a Dad today, healthy bouncing baby boy. We were all together for a cook out Sunday night in Chicago, and I noticed that about every 10 minutes or so his wife would take a big breath and sweat would appear on her forehead (this is their first). Being a Dad 3 times I recognized that sign, brouight it to their attention, so they immediately took her home. She went on like that for two days and they did a C-section this morning (baby was breach).

Everybody is fine, which is the important thing.

210 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:55:27pm

re: #208 VegasRick

The shit coming from "0" aint gonna fertilize anything.

You just watch what grows from it.

211 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:56:00pm

re: #207 reine.de.tout

I have a couple of voodoo dolls in my "ethnic" doll collection.
As I stick the pins in, who is it I should say they're for?

Don't you have to include something in a voodoo doll that belongs to the "stickee" like a fingernail clipping or a lock of hair?

212 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:56:03pm

re: #193 albusteve I think you forgot your sarc tag there! At least I hope so - a mezzusah is really considered kinda significant in a truly world recognized (and nearly world hated, unfortunately) religion. And the foundation of my Christian Religion.

213 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:56:16pm

re: #207 reine.de.tout

I have a couple of voodoo dolls in my "ethnic" doll collection.
As I stick the pins in, who is it I should say they're for?

note to self: quit pissing off reine until after she moves to omaha
/

214 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:56:17pm

re: #207 reine.de.tout

I have a couple of voodoo dolls in my "ethnic" doll collection.
As I stick the pins in, who is it I should say they're for?

I have a couple....I get alot of satisfaction knowing I'm getting the point across

215 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:56:21pm

re: #210 OldLineTexan

You just watch what grows from it.

There's lead in them there soil.

//

216 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:57:04pm

July 8, 2009
Solis: 'Nobody is happy' with extent of recovery yet
@ 4:58 pm by Michael O'Brien

"Nobody is happy" with the way the economy has progressed, Labor Secretary Hilda Solis said Wednesday.

"It is bad right now," Solis told the Fox Business Network of the state of the economy. "Nobody is happy, and the president and I feel very strongly that we have to do everything we can to create jobs."

Still, Solis refused to predict when the economy might recover from its doldrums.

Gee, can't predict when the recovery might start, but so sure throwing billions more will help. What a bunch of clueless [self-deleted] we have in charge.

217 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:57:10pm

re: #189 realwest

Ah Geez, FOGJ! I put that up in the spinoff links to the first new thread of the day, but Obama's Internet Campaign Manager avanti already shot it down cause, ya know, Rasmussen ONLY polls likely voters. And we all know votes in the graveyard won't answer their phones

The polls only count if they make the Messiah look good.

If they don't, they are flawed.

218 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:57:21pm

re: #209 3 wood

Resting up from a couple long days. Waiting for my dulcimer project to cure so I cam put on some varnish.

One of my nephews became a Dad today, healthy bouncing baby boy. We were all together for a cook out Sunday night in Chicago, and I noticed that about every 10 minutes or so his wife would take a big breath and sweat would appear on her forehead (this is their first). Being a Dad 3 times I recognized that sign, brouight it to their attention, so they immediately took her home. She went on like that for two days and they did a C-section this morning (baby was breach).

Everybody is fine, which is the important thing.

Mazal tov, great-uncle!

219 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:57:35pm
220 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:57:43pm

re: #211 Alouette

Don't you have to include something in a voodoo doll that belongs to the "stickee" like a fingernail clipping or a lock of hair?

Heh.
I'm honestly not all that up on my voodoo requirements.
I'd have to research it, but I think you are correct.

221 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:57:49pm

re: #215 Gus 802

There's lead in them there soil.

//

Nice circle-back. I am impressed!

222 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:58:05pm

re: #217 3 wood

The polls only count if they make the Messiah look good.

If they don't, they are flawed.

Not just flawed, intrinsically wrong, so have to be ignored if possible and vilified if mentioned.

223 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:58:16pm

re: #196 Gus 802

*pulling up chair*

This I got to see.

224 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:58:20pm

re: #207 reine.de.tout

I have a couple of voodoo dolls in my "ethnic" doll collection.
As I stick the pins in, who is it I should say they're for?

How much will you charge for a Kobe doll?
*wink*

225 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:58:21pm

re: #213 OldLineTexan

note to self: quit pissing off reine until after she moves to omaha
/

:-)
cher.

226 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:58:43pm

re: #206 FurryOldGuyJeans
Well "love" is a tad strong there, but I get your drift!
Constantly consistent is our fellow LGFer avanti!

227 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:58:44pm

re: #212 realwest

I think you forgot your sarc tag there! At least I hope so - a mezzusah is really considered kinda significant in a truly world recognized (and nearly world hated, unfortunately) religion. And the foundation of my Christian Religion.

my Joo Foo is very bad...but it's reassuring to know that Buzz is out there to smarten me up should I need...I meant no harm

228 jayzee  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:59:01pm

re: #164 buzzsawmonkey

Put a mezuzah on your office door and freak him out.

If I miss shachrit I put tefilin on in my office. That's what prompted his initial outburst.

229 calcajun  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:59:15pm

re: #216 FurryOldGuyJeans

Get the sense they're like Kevin Bacon in "Animal House"; "Remain calm. All is well."?

230 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:59:34pm

re: #223 3 wood

*pulling up chair*

This I got to see.

Maybe I should take a nap first. ;)

231 callahan23  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 4:59:45pm

re: #205 realwest

Hey there my friend! Thanks for the clarification - each of my two former wives said that the metal thingy we screwed into our apartment door frames was a way to insure we'd be passed over or something like that.
Always brought good luck though.

As long as it brings luck it is OK.
I read that you had a tooth removed and that the remaining stump hurts. I do honestly hope you have been prescribed some goood medicine.
I feel like drugged myself right now as I have a huge sleep deficit. Might be the reason why I answer so very late to your comment. ;-)

232 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:00:07pm

re: #218 Alouette

Thank you kind lady.

233 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:00:25pm

re: #221 OldLineTexan

Nice circle-back. I am impressed!

Must be Denver.

Here's the lead.

234 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:00:36pm

re: #229 calcajun

Get the sense they're like Kevin Bacon in "Animal House"; "Remain calm. All is well."?

I don't think they have even that much sense. I see nothing but a bunch of people panicking since they can't just pass the buck any more.

235 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:00:48pm
236 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:01:08pm

re: #196 Gus 802

According the Paulian interpretation the Fed is unconstitutional. Ron Paul makes no secret about the fact that his long range plan is to abolish the Fed so we can go back to the gold standard for currency. This is his first step to bog down the Fed, harass it with audits until it fails.

237 Bloodnok  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:01:09pm

re: #222 FurryOldGuyJeans

Not just flawed, intrinsically wrong, so have to be ignored if possible and vilified if mentioned.

How is that any different from how some treat polls that make him look good, or polls during the election? (oh, I've never been polled -probably skewed -people don't want to be called racists -It's weighted incorrectly -I don't trust polls)

238 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:01:48pm

re: #209 3 wood A new baby for one of your nephews? Mazel Tov to your nephew and his wife and the whole family!

My dentist's wife gave birth to triplets a week ago and they are gonna be in the hospital for 5 more weeks. No wonder he looked so tired while working me over on me!
Can't wait to see that new Dulcimer - how's the sound (I just KNOW you gave it a sound check before doing the finishing!)?

239 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:02:04pm

re: #225 reine.de.tout

:-)
cher.

absolutely an unfair practice, madam

/knees of jelly

240 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:02:08pm

re: #223 3 wood

What do you make of the plan to audit the Fed?

241 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:02:59pm

July 8, 2009
GOP senator: Obama's Russia trip like 'pile of manure'
@ 3:31 pm by Michael O'Brien

President Obama's trip to Russia has produced little more than a "pile of manure," the top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee said Wednesday.

Sen. Kit Bond (R-Mo.) said that Obama had failed to raise a number of important issues with Russian leaders during meetings there in the first half of this week.

"President Obama, as far as I know, hasn't raised any of those questions — like including cybersecurity, including sanctions on North Korea and Iran," Bond said during a conference with Missouri reporters. "I'm still digging through the manure pile to see if there's a pony in it, but I haven't seen any coming out of the meetings with [Prime Minister] Vladimir Putin and [President Dimitry] Medvedev yet."

242 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:03:40pm

re: #228 jayzee

If I miss shachrit I put tefilin on in my office. That's what prompted his initial outburst.

man, hebrew is like a foreign language ... they have a different word for everything

/

243 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:03:58pm
244 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:04:10pm

re: #242 OldLineTexan

man, hebrew is like a foreign language ... they have a different word for everything

/

707

245 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:04:15pm

re: #240 Killgore Trout

What do you make of the plan to audit the Fed?

depends on who is doing the audit, but in general terms I think it should be done periodically anyway

246 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:04:25pm

re: #241 FurryOldGuyJeans

See? Is fertilizer! Make US-Russian ties grow big and strong!

/

247 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:04:55pm

re: #223 3 wood

*pulling up chair*

This I got to see.


I'll get the popcorn! Butter? Salt?

248 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:05:01pm

re: #245 sattv4u2

depends on who is doing the audit, but in general terms I think it should be done periodically anyway

That is going to get you label a Ronulan, you know. ;)

249 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:05:12pm

re: #243 buzzsawmonkey

Good for you. I guess he couldn't stand the shacharit treatments.

ive got a few shacharits i will never tell myself

250 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:05:31pm

re: #238 realwest

Can't wait to see that new Dulcimer - how's the sound (I just KNOW you gave it a sound check before doing the finishing!)?


Actually, I've not heard it cause I can't put the strings on yet till the finishing is done. Then I finalize the fretts and string her up.

251 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:05:37pm

re: #248 FurryOldGuyJeans

That is going to get you label a Ronulan, you know. ;)

Just stamp "Nazi" on his forehead now.

252 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:05:38pm

re: #247 realwest

I'll get the popcorn! Butter? Salt?

Never ever ever ever ever eat Salt!
Hiya Realwest!

253 tradewind  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:05:53pm

Bwahahahahahahaha

Obama and G8 leaders agree to restrict global temperatures from rising more than 2 degrees....


[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
...and for his next act, TOTUS will singlehandedly divert all water in the land of Israel into the faucets of the Palestinians........

254 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:05:56pm

re: #248 FurryOldGuyJeans

That is going to get you label a Ronulan, you know. ;)

Ron Paul eats bacon
I eat bacon
I must be a Paulian!
//

255 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:06:40pm

Yow, even Gallup is jumping on the "diss Our Man Obama and Messiah" bandwagon!

July 8, 2009
Obama Averages 61% Job Approval in June
Obama at 89% approval among Democrats, 25% among Republicans

by Frank Newport

PRINCETON, NJ -- U.S. President Barack Obama averaged a 61% job approval rating for the month of June, down from his 65% average in May, and one point below his previous monthly low of 62%, recorded in March.

256 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:06:46pm

An interesting graph: Central Bank Independence vs Inflation

From the Wiki article on the Federal Reserve

257 jayzee  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:06:49pm

re: #242 OldLineTexan

man, hebrew is like a foreign language ... they have a different word for everything

/

All Greek to me. For those who don't know, shachrit is morning prayers, tefilin is like a mezuzah for head and (right-usually) arm, that you put on for shachrit.

258 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:07:10pm

re: #248 FurryOldGuyJeans

re: #254 sattv4u2

Ron Paul eats bacon
I eat bacon
I must be a Paulian!
//

OR , maybe it means Paul is a SATTVian!

259 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:07:12pm

re: #231 callahan23
Well I didn't have it removed, just most of it so they can crown it - have temp crown on now and it goes below gum line - hurts like heck, but I've got good pain pills.
Sorry to hear you're STILL suffering from over-work my friend. You really do need to take care of yourself and your health.

260 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:08:34pm

re: #236 Killgore Trout

According the Paulian interpretation the Fed is unconstitutional. Ron Paul makes no secret about the fact that his long range plan is to abolish the Fed so we can go back to the gold standard for currency. This is his first step to bog down the Fed, harass it with audits until it fails.

Well, I wouldn't support an audit with the intent to harass the Fed nor to cause it to fail. Additionally, I wouldn't support it to revert to a gold standard.

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 8 citation:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

Now since it says that congress "shall" have the power it can also be argued that they are also able to "contract" out this power to their choosing which I believe they did in 1933? Is it right for them to transfer this responsibility of congress to other Federal agencies?

261 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:09:01pm

re: #244 HoosierHoops
ROFL! Hi ya Hoops! Hope you're doing ok while on vacation - I know how much you miss going to work!

262 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:09:04pm

Paulians really should fear the Federal Reserve. It's actually a very "John Galt"/Captains of Industry sort of thing.

263 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:09:32pm

re: #240 Killgore Trout

What do you make of the plan to audit the Fed?


An attempted power grab, very dangerous and very socialistic. What makes Monetary Policy work is the trust factor from being non-political.

If I was Bernanke I would resign if they actually go this way.

264 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:09:34pm

re: #248 FurryOldGuyJeans

That is going to get you label a Ronulan, you know. ;)

Uh oh. I just referenced the Constitution.

Boy am I "in trouble!"

//

265 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:09:38pm

re: #253 tradewind

Bwahahahahahahaha

Obama and G8 leaders agree to restrict global temperatures from rising more than 2 degrees....

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
...and for his next act, TOTUS will singlehandedly divert all water in the land of Israel into the faucets of the Palestinians........

Somebody tell Al Gore. Maybe he'll shut the fuck up.

/doubtful

266 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:10:35pm

re: #265 SasquatchOnSteroids

Somebody tell Al Gore. Maybe he'll shut the fuck up.

what, and give up show business?

267 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:11:04pm

re: #264 Gus 802

Uh oh. I just referenced the Constitution.

Boy am I "in trouble!"

//

Now that really is bad, referring to the US Constitution. Re-education for you!

/ and no soup!

268 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:11:36pm

re: #267 FurryOldGuyJeans

I knew the Soup Nazis would eventually stir.

/

269 jayzee  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:11:43pm

re: #243 buzzsawmonkey

Good for you. I guess he couldn't stand the shacharit treatments.

In my company, there's a lot of politically incorrect humor going back and forth. He jumped in on a joke, but in a very very oddly hostile way. I only found out he was Egyptian this week. I thought he was Hispanic initially.

270 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:11:47pm

re: #260 Gus 802

Well, I wouldn't support an audit with the intent to harass the Fed nor to cause it to fail

Nor would I. But an honest audit periodically just to see exactly where things stand as compared to different points of time vis a vis inflation/ market/ GDP indicies would be fine with me

271 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:11:50pm

re: #267 FurryOldGuyJeans

Now that really is bad, referring to the US Constitution. Re-education for you!

/ and no soup!

/Soup to nuts!

272 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:11:57pm

re: #266 OldLineTexan

what, and give up show business?

well, I did said it was doubtful.
Now he can really churn up his Christmas Vacation of a house.

/big giant sucking sound

273 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:12:30pm

re: #260 Gus 802

Yes, I know you can find passages to support the idea but you have to ask if it's so clear then why can't you go to the Supreme Court and get a decision? There have been challenges to the Feds authority before but it's not really a clear cut Constitutional issue. That's why congress has to pass legislation to get the authority to audit the Fed. If it was just a simple Constitutional issue they could just go to the court and wouldn't have to worry about the inevitable veto.

274 callahan23  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:12:40pm

re: #259 realwest

Well I didn't have it removed, just most of it so they can crown it - have temp crown on now and it goes below gum line - hurts like heck, but I've got good pain pills.
Sorry to hear you're STILL suffering from over-work my friend. You really do need to take care of yourself and your health.

Will do, I promise I'll take better care of myself.
Which is exactly why I'll bail out for today.
See y'all down the road.
I love you (Lizardim} - mostly.
Really!

(realwest)

275 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:12:50pm

re: #261 realwest

ROFL! Hi ya Hoops! Hope you're doing ok while on vacation - I know how much you miss going to work!

Good evening Realwest.. I'm back to work in the morning and wading through countless emails and posting here....
What kind of coffee should we do on the morning shift?

276 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:13:14pm

re: #263 3 wood

Yeah, that's the impression that I get too.

277 realwest  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:13:17pm

Woops, mom just called dinner so I gotta go mush my scrambled eggs and mashed potatoes! Oh YUM!
See you all down the road!

278 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:13:26pm

re: #275 HoosierHoops

Good evening Realwest.. I'm back to work in the morning and wading through countless emails and posting here....
What kind of coffee should we do on the morning shift?

Buy some of that monkey-crap coffee.

279 Truck Monkey  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:13:27pm

re: #259 realwest

Well I didn't have it removed, just most of it so they can crown it - have temp crown on now and it goes below gum line - hurts like heck, but I've got good pain pills.
Sorry to hear you're STILL suffering from over-work my friend. You really do need to take care of yourself and your health.

I just had that done too. My not so old crown just fell off and they couldn't replace it without putting a peg in and grinding down the tooth in front of the old crown. Hurt like hell and was expensive too. I have the permanent crown/crowns put in next week. Should I ask for Vicodan?

280 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:13:32pm

re: #270 sattv4u2

Well, I wouldn't support an audit with the intent to harass the Fed nor to cause it to fail

Nor would I. But an honest audit periodically just to see exactly where things stand as compared to different points of time vis a vis inflation/ market/ GDP indicies would be fine with me

Exactly. Something that would be done in moderation.

Odd, we allow intelligence oversights by congress. Nancy Pelosi can be briefed by the CIA and other agencies yet the Federal Reserve is off limits?

Interesting.

281 BatGuano  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:13:36pm

In the last two days I have read the US Constitution three times. It is an amazing document. I urge all state legislatures to ratify it. :)

282 David Simon  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:13:41pm

What did Pelosi know and when did she know it? That's for her to know and for you to never find out:

The last time the CIA and Nancy Pelosi were in the news together, the House Speaker was accusing the agency of lying about its briefings to Congress on the interrogation of al Qaeda detainees. This week, the Speaker's fellow Democrats are set to block public disclosure of what Ms. Pelosi was really told and when.

Democrats recently marked up the 2010 intelligence bill, and Republican Pete Hoekstra offered an amendment in committee to require the CIA to make public an unclassified version of its records on Congressional briefings. It also would have required the CIA to disclose the information gleaned from those interrogations.

Democrats have spent years demanding a "truth commission" into interrogations, so you'd think such public disclosure would be welcome. Ah, that was when a different guy was in the White House and before Mrs. Pelosi had made her own veracity an issue. Suddenly, she's all for secrecy.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

283 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:13:49pm

re: #267 FurryOldGuyJeans

Now that really is bad, referring to the US Constitution. Re-education for you!

/ and no soup!

"Um, excuse me, I - I think you forgot my bread."
"Bread, two dollars extra."
"Two dollars? But everyone in front of me got free bread."
"You want bread?"
"Yes, please."
"Three dollars!"
"What?"
"No soup for you!"
- George and the Soup Nazi, in "The Soup Nazi"

284 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:13:56pm
285 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:13:58pm

re: #277 realwest

Woops, mom just called dinner so I gotta go mush my scrambled eggs and mashed potatoes! Oh YUM!
See you all down the road!

Don't forget the blended peaches and cottage cheese for dessert!

/

286 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:14:13pm

Got to run,later.

287 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:14:32pm

One very small, shining ray of hope in an otherwise insane situation:

July 8, 2009
Franken ranks last in Senate seniority
@ 3:26 pm by Hill Staff

Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) may have been elected eight months ago but he's low-man on the Senate totem poll.

Franken, who was sworn into office on Tuesday after a long legal battle, ranks last when it comes to Senate seniority.

A spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid's (D-Nev.) office confirmed Franken's position.

"Franken's service begins on the date on which he is sworn. So regardless of state size, etc, he cannot jump over members who were sworn on Jan. 6th," Reid spokesman Jim Manley said in an email. "So Mr. Franken is Number 100 and is last in seniority for all members and, of course last, for Democrats too."

288 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:14:43pm

re: #281 BatGuano

In the last two days I have read the US Constitution three times. It is an amazing document. I urge all state legislatures to ratify it. :)

It beats what the Feds are using now.

289 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:15:05pm

re: #280 Gus 802

Nancy Pelosi can be briefed by the CIA and other agencies yet the Federal Reserve is off limits?

Interesting.


The Fed briefs congress all the time.

290 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:15:06pm
291 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:15:59pm

re: #289 Killgore Trout

The Fed briefs congress all the time.

To what extent?

292 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:16:19pm

re: #290 buzzsawmonkey

He's probably still carrying a grudge over that golden sphinx his ancestors gave yours just before the Exodus.

Nah, it's something about a house. He has this HUGE key ...

/

293 BatGuano  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:16:56pm

re: #288 OldLineTexan

It beats what the Feds are using now.

/What are they using now?

294 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:17:05pm

re: #288 OldLineTexan

It beats what the Feds are using now.

Holding the index finger to the wind?

//

295 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:17:28pm

re: #291 Gus 802

Search youtube for Bernake. I'm not sure if there's a set schedule for his appearances. It seems to be every month or two. He shows up and answers questions.

296 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:17:31pm

re: #293 BatGuano

/What are they using now?

HA! See 294! POLLS!

/

297 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:17:38pm

re: #293 BatGuano

/What are they using now?

MSNBC.

298 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:17:52pm

re: #294 Gus 802

Holding the index finger to the wind?

//

More like a middle finger to the voters.

299 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:17:59pm

re: #293 BatGuano

/What are they using now?

Trending Topics on Twitter.

//

300 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:18:09pm

re: #291 Gus 802

To what extent?

Whenever they are about to announce rate changes (or rates holding steady) for one instance

301 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:18:19pm

re: #228 jayzee

If I miss shachrit I put tefilin on in my office. That's what prompted his initial outburst.

You must have scared the crap out of him! He probably thought that Jew leather was some crazy fetish.

302 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:18:49pm

for the Federal Reserve...

303 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:18:58pm

re: #278 OldLineTexan

Buy some of that monkey-crap coffee.

LOL
At work we got the setup where you can choose 24 different kind of coffee packets...From breakfast blend to Italian Roast...Your choice could possibly determine your entire day...I went Kona when i should have gone Columbian...
( the richest kind)
:)

304 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:18:59pm

re: #298 FurryOldGuyJeans

More like a middle finger to the voters.

That sounds about right.

Heck, we sure wouldn't want to "politicize" congress or for that matter any Federal agencies.

//

305 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:19:01pm

re: #280 Gus 802

Nancy Pelosi can be briefed by the CIA and other agencies yet the Federal Reserve is off limits?

They get briefed by the Fed all the time now.

The Fed Chairman answers to the President and nobody else. The Board of Governors at the Fed answer to the Chairman and nobody else. That is the way it needs to be if we do not want Monetary Policy to become a political football. Trust me on this. Great lengths have been taken over the years to keep the Fed out of politics.

You can use the treat of audit to "clean house" unless politics gets played. You will lose the high quality of professionals that you have at the Fed and will replace them with political hacks if this gets done.

306 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:19:13pm
307 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:19:15pm

re: #301 Alouette

You must have scared the crap out of him! He probably thought that Jew leather was some crazy fetish.

Jew webgear would be even more effective.

;)

308 3 wood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:20:24pm

re: #291 Gus 802

To what extent?

He appears whenever called, which is frequent and gets grilled pretty good.

309 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:20:49pm

Oh yeah, Congress doesn't have enough to do that they are debating a non-binding resolution to honor Michael Jackson:

July 6, 2009
Full text of Michael Jackson resolution
@ 3:39 pm by Eric Zimmermann

We recently reported that Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-Tex.) had introduced a resolution to honor Michael Jackson. (Oddly enough, the legislation was referred to the House Foreign Affairs Committee.)

The full text of that resolution has been published, and it's….long.

The legislation lists Jackson's accomplishments in endless detail, from his #1 hits to the details of his charity work. At the conclusion, the legislation resolves that Congress

310 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:20:50pm

My Muslim friends call me Jewbacca.

Those wild and crazy guys...

311 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:21:42pm
312 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:22:34pm

re: #309 FurryOldGuyJeans

The legislation lists Jackson's accomplishments in endless detail

Ironically, there are NO accomplishments for the resolutions sponsor, Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee

313 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:22:38pm

re: #309 FurryOldGuyJeans

Q: Give three synonyms for "crazy"
A: Sheila Jackson Lee

Q: What's closer to a TV lens than the cap?
A: Sheila Jackson Lee

314 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:22:39pm

re: #305 3 wood

They get briefed by the Fed all the time now.

The Fed Chairman answers to the President and nobody else. The Board of Governors at the Fed answer to the Chairman and nobody else. That is the way it needs to be if we do not want Monetary Policy to become a political football. Trust me on this. Great lengths have been taken over the years to keep the Fed out of politics.

You can use the treat of audit to "clean house" unless politics gets played. You will lose the high quality of professionals that you have at the Fed and will replace them with political hacks if this gets done.

OK, I'll have to read up more on this to get a clearer picture. It's not a particular interest of mine.

315 OldLineTexan  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:23:18pm

re: #312 sattv4u2


The legislation lists Jackson's accomplishments in endless detail

Ironically, there are NO accomplishments for the resolutions sponsor, Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee

Ahem. She has spoken in front of every camera ever turned on in Houston.

316 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:23:44pm

re: #257 jayzee

All Greek to me. For those who don't know, shachrit is morning prayers, tefilin is like a mezuzah for head and (right-usually) arm, that you put on for shachrit.

tefillin

317 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:24:30pm

re: #311 IslandLibertarian

BUSINESS IS BUSINESS..........

COODER!....nice

318 Kenneth  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:25:23pm

re: #309 FurryOldGuyJeans

To hell with the pedophile.

319 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:27:04pm

re: #318 Kenneth

To hell with the pedophile.

I think that is what Peter King said.

320 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:27:26pm

re: #315 OldLineTexan

Ahem. She has spoken in front of every camera ever turned on in Houston.

She was a huge Hillary supporter, . (starts about about 17 seconds) I bet she's beeen trying to kiss Obama butt since Nov 2008!

[Link: campaigncircus.com...]

321 itellu3times  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:27:41pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

Because it's a very bad idea to bog down the Fed with bureaucratic red tape from congress. They often have to act quickly to avert crises and there's not time to hold meetings, debates and votes in congress before they take action. Also, giving control of our monetary policy to Congress is just about the worst idea possible.

Ben Bernanke: Federal Reserve audit would constitute "takeover" by Congress

Also the Fed does operate with a certain amount of secrecy to avoid panic in the markets and insider trading. Giving congress access to this information is a recipe for disaster.
Either way, even if the legislation passes it will surely be vetoed. Even Obama is not stupid enough to let this go through.

Exsqueeze me, r u sirius?

I guess I'm a Ronbot on this one.

99% of the time, and in finance 99.44%, secrecy, sux. 99.999% of what is "secret" is theft and incompetence. And no, the remaining 0.001% does not pay for the rest.

And an audit is not a takeover, or Price Waterhouse would be the secret masters of the planet.

322 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:28:45pm

"re: #311 IslandLibertarian

BUSINESS IS BUSINESS..........

"you schmucks all work for me"....Jagger burned Cooder too...he thought they were all crazy...jus sayin

323 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:28:54pm

re: #313 OldLineTexan

Q: Give three synonyms for "crazy"
A: Sheila Jackson Lee

Q: What's closer to a TV lens than the cap?
A: Sheila Jackson Lee

I thought her middle name was

Sheila Hurricanenamesaren'traciallyfair Lee.

324 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:30:17pm

re: #323 SasquatchOnSteroids

I thought her middle name was

Sheila Hurricanenamesaren'traciallyfair Lee.

She wants to name a hurricane La'Quisha?
///

325 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:30:48pm

re: #312 sattv4u2


The legislation lists Jackson's accomplishments in endless detail

Ironically, there are NO accomplishments for the resolutions sponsor, Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee

She can now list this Jackson Honorarium resolution on her resume.

326 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:31:12pm

re: #323 SasquatchOnSteroids

I thought her middle name was

Sheila Hurricanenamesaren'traciallyfair Lee.

Well, we all know that hurricanes are attracted to trailer parks!
/

327 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:32:43pm

re: #284 buzzsawmonkey

Tefillin are also sometimes referred to as "phylacteries." They are little black boxes with black leather straps.

I did a google image search for "tefillin" and one of the first pictures to come up was some feminist photoshop of "Rosie the Riveter" with tefillin wrapped around her arm. Why do feminists want to get in the face of religious Jews like that? What benefit does a feminist expect to get out of putting on tefillin?

Rivka Holtzberg never put of tefillin, tell me what makes these feminist soo much more religious than Rivka Holtzberg.

328 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:32:49pm

re: #326 VegasRick

Well, we all know that hurricanes are attracted to trailer parks!
/

And here the media was saying it was being black and poor that was doing that, d'oh!

/..

329 David Simon  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:33:08pm

re: #309 FurryOldGuyJeans

From your link:

The legislation lists Jackson's accomplishments in endless detail, from his #1 hits

I wonder if they'll include this little ditty:

Mr. Jackson sings, "Jew me, sue me, everybody do me/ Kick me, kike me, don't you black or white me."

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

330 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:33:37pm

re: #324 sattv4u2

She wants to name a hurricane La'Quisha?
///


link

331 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:34:44pm
332 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:35:11pm

re: #324 sattv4u2

She wants to name a hurricane La'Quisha?
///

I always thought that "Windy" would be a good name for a hurricane.

333 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:36:39pm

re: #329 David Simon

From your link:


[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

"Wasn't nuttin strange about your daddy"

334 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:37:28pm

re: #324 sattv4u2

She wants to name a hurricane La'Quisha?
///

If that actually happened, Jesse and Rev. Al would scream racism. Then they would try to sue the National Weather Service.

335 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:37:29pm

White House expects 'frank' talks between Obama, pope
Jul 8 01:50 PM US/Eastern

US President Barack Obama's talks with Pope Benedict XVI will be "frank" but constructive in areas of disagreement such as abortion, the White House said Wednesday.

"I think there will be a frank discussion," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said aboard Air Force One en route to Italy where Obama is attending the Group of Eight summit that opened Wednesday.

Obama and the pope are to meet Friday after the summit.

336 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:37:31pm

re: #333 sattv4u2

"Wasn't nuttin strange about your daddy"


one sick ass mfr

337 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:38:37pm

re: #332 VegasRick

I always thought that "Windy" would be a good name for a hurricane.

I love watching the videos from the Gulf Coast the day before the hurricane hits. Everyone at Home Depot buying plywood

The hurricanes hit every year. SCUSE ME , why didn't you save the plywood from LAST year?

338 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:38:42pm

re: #332 VegasRick

I always thought that "Windy" would be a good name for a hurricane.

I like Hurricane Chief Bootknocka myself.

339 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:38:58pm

re: #333 sattv4u2

"Wasn't nuttin strange about your daddy"

True, but Michael Jackson was nuttier than a fruitcake!

340 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:40:52pm

re: #338 SasquatchOnSteroids

I like Hurricane Chief Bootknocka myself.

I like Bigknocka's.

341 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:41:18pm

re: #340 VegasRick

I like Bigknocka's.

BOOB THREAD!

342 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:41:30pm

re: #337 sattv4u2

I love watching the videos from the Gulf Coast the day before the hurricane hits. Everyone at Home Depot buying plywood

The hurricanes hit every year. SCUSE ME , why didn't you save the plywood from LAST year?

Well, the electricity was out. How do you expect them to cook ?

343 David Simon  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:41:58pm

re: #333 sattv4u2

How dare you! Does this man look strange to you?

Image: michael_jackson.jpg

344 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:42:03pm

re: #339 VegasRick

I really can't relate to any of this at all....musically or socially...from what I've seen it is a shallow, misguided example of the Black American experience...

345 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:42:11pm

re: #337 sattv4u2

I love watching the videos from the Gulf Coast the day before the hurricane hits. Everyone at Home Depot buying plywood

The hurricanes hit every year. SCUSE ME , why didn't you save the plywood from LAST year?

Not only that, they decide to get bottled water the day before it hits. And if you even try to get a sub at Subway you'll be waiting about 25 minutes because people forget how to cook. People, I have learned, are stupid.

346 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:42:23pm

re: #343 David Simon

How dare you! Does this man look strange to you?

[Link: www.technofinger.com...]

That's not a man.

347 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:42:26pm

re: #341 sattv4u2

BOOB THREAD!

Well, we are both here!

348 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:42:56pm

re: #342 SasquatchOnSteroids

Well, the electricity was out. How do you expect them to cook ?

Gas grill.

349 jcm  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:42:56pm

re: #341 sattv4u2

BOOB THREAD!

REALLY BIG BOOBS!

350 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:43:08pm

re: #346 SasquatchOnSteroids

That's not a man.

Ain't no woman either.

//What is that?

351 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:43:15pm

re: #348 Cannadian Club Akbar

Gas grill.

plywood

352 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:43:44pm
353 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:43:44pm

re: #343 David Simon

How dare you! Does this man look strange to you?

[Link: www.technofinger.com...]

Not at all (as long as "not strange looking" means you're going for the lead role in the re-make of Dark Shadows)

354 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:43:52pm

re: #348 Cannadian Club Akbar

Gas grill.

Downed tree for firewood. Think like our ancestors.

355 garden18  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:44:58pm

From Ted Belman at Israpundit:

I just had a long meeting with an MK of long standing on the right who told me a little of what was going on.

Apparently, Netanyahu came away from his meeting with Obama, a changed man, a shell of his former self.

Imagine if you will being ordered by the Mob at a Casino to come into the back room due to your “independence”. You see on entering some heavy set men around a table on which there is a hammer, a saw, razor blades, a vise, acid and a number of other persuaders. Well you get the idea of what Netanyahu’s meeting was like.

The gloves came off and the Obama administration put their tools on the table.

1. withdrawal of support at the UN.
2. preventing Israel from using their GPS which is needed to guide Israeli missles, planes and tanks.
3. cancellation of 3 billion in annual grants.
4. barring Israel from using American ammunition stored on Israeli soil,
5. avoiding resupply should Israel run out of munitions.
6. initiating sanctions and other drastic measures at the UN.
7. withdrawal of guarantees
8. full US support of the Saudi Plan
9. Israel to give up Jerusalem and the “illegal settlements” around it.

I can’t even imagine all the tools that were put on the table.

Obama means business. Every other arena in foreign affairs is getting more and more problematic with no good result in sight. Only by crunching little Israel could Obama hoped to have a foreign affairs success. He set a goal of solving the Palestinian conflict within two years. Just when his campaign for re-election would be beginning.

Netanyahu left the meeting thoroughly chastened. He rushed over to his old friends in Congress only to find out they backed Obama. He careened over to his friends at AIPAC and other Jewish organizations only to find that they still supported Obama. It was surprising that Netanyahu could make it back to Israel on his own.

Netanyahu is doing his best to salvage the situation and buy for time.

356 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:45:13pm

re: #354 FurryOldGuyJeans

Downed tree for firewood. Think like our ancestors.

No trees around me. Gas grill.:)

357 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:46:15pm

re: #350 Gus 802

Ain't no woman either.

//What is that?

Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer

358 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:46:21pm

re: #352 buzzsawmonkey

If I ever get within shouting distance of Al Sharpton, i'll SCREAM at the top of my lungs

", HEY , REV , HEARD FROM TAWANA BRAWLEY LATELY!"

359 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:46:27pm

re: #349 jcm

REALLY BIG BOOBS! HOW THE FUCK DID THIS HAPPEN?


Had to fix that.
That's what I think every time I see these guys.

360 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:47:19pm
361 jcm  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:47:49pm

re: #359 IslandLibertarian

Had to fix that.
That's what I think every time I see these guys.

ROFL!

Why I'm I laughing?

362 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:48:05pm

re: #357 SasquatchOnSteroids

Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer

Now a Brainless Eunuch.

//

363 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:48:09pm

re: #349 jcm

re: #359 IslandLibertarian

Ahh , a still from the Dem debates, back when Biden was telling the world that Obama was too inexperienced to lead!

364 BatGuano  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:48:23pm

re: #349 jcm

REALLY BIG BOOBS!

" These aren't the droids you're looking for"

365 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:49:02pm

re: #358 sattv4u2

Reverend Al Sharpton is an oxymoron.............

366 jcm  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:49:22pm

re: #363 sattv4u2

re: #359 IslandLibertarian

Ahh , a still from the Dem debates, back when Biden was telling the world that Obama was too inexperienced to lead!

So much change........

In positions taken during the debates till now.

367 jcm  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:49:40pm

re: #365 IslandLibertarian

Reverend Al Sharpton is an oxymoron.............

FIFY

368 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:49:40pm

re: #365 IslandLibertarian

Reverend Al Sharpton is an oxymoron.............

on our dime...chew on that

369 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:50:18pm

re: #365 IslandLibertarian

Reverend Al Sharpton is an oxymoron.............

FTFY.

370 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:50:27pm

re: #365 IslandLibertarian

Reverend Al Sharpton is an oxymoron.............

FTFY

Actually, he's brilliant. He's become a millionare many times over playing the race/ victimhood card

371 jcm  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:50:35pm

re: #368 albusteve

on our dime...chew on that

*gag*

*cough*

*choke*

*hurl*

372 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:51:02pm

re: #368 albusteve

racism is big business..........it's not about equality..........it's about payback.

373 jcm  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:51:05pm

re: #367 jcm

re: #370 sattv4u2

GMTA

374 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:51:09pm

I will not finance my own demise....I have a crib at Club Fed waiting for me...fuck them

375 FurryOldGuyJeans  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:51:19pm

White House hit in skirmishes over spending
By Krishna Guha in Washington
Published: July 8 2009 19:57 %P% Last updated: July 8 2009 19:57

The clashes in Congress on Wednesday over the possibility of a further US fiscal stimulus highlight the ­political ­damage Barack Obama’s administration is suffering as unemployment climbs towards 10 per cent in spite of the current $787bn package.

Senior administration officials think further stimulus might eventually be needed but they do not want to have this fight now. Both the economics and the politics call for postponing a decision to late this year or early in 2010.

376 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:51:27pm
377 nyc redneck  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:51:42pm

re: #90 Gus 802

Some recent news regarding Valerie Jarrett:

Blagojevich aide pleads guilty in corruption case
By MIKE ROBINSON – 4 hours ago]

Right, she EVENTUALLY removed her name from the running but this was AFTER everything blew up in their faces.

Obama and Chicago politics, perfect together.

imagine if this was the kind of real substantive ethics issues that sarah palin was involved in. she'd be in jail.
o gets away w/ murder.

378 jcm  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:52:04pm

re: #372 IslandLibertarian

racism is big business..........it's not about equality..........it's about payback.

it's about a paycheck...

379 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:52:07pm

re: #349 jcm

REALLY BIG BOOBS!

Yeah, back when he was in his "no flag lapel pin" stage.

How can people ever forget when he, Barrack Obama, didn't salute for the Pledge of Allegiance.

I need some brain bleach.

380 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:52:16pm

re: #376 buzzsawmonkey

Actually, just pay.

no

381 VegasRick  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:53:00pm

re: #376 buzzsawmonkey

Actually, just pay.

Payblack.

382 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:53:12pm
383 Gus  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:53:48pm

re: #377 nyc redneck

imagine if this was the kind of real substantive ethics issues that sarah palin was involved in. she'd be in jail.
o gets away w/ murder.

Indeed. Or even if the politicians involved had been Republicans instead of Democrats. Being that they are Democrats they get a free ride from the MSM. Being that they're also Obamanauts they get extra special care from the liberal media machine.

384 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:54:53pm

re: #382 buzzsawmonkey

You don't think so? Rev. Al's money isn't "payback"--what did he himself suffer from?

He once had runny mashed potatoes at Tavern On The Green

Oh , the humanity !

385 albusteve  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:57:24pm

re: #382 buzzsawmonkey

You don't think so? Rev. Al's money isn't "payback"--what did he himself suffer from?

as for myself I will not finance Al Sharpton...repost your piece from yesterday please...you know the one, some here might not have seen it

386 David Simon  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:58:11pm

re: #384 sattv4u2

He once had runny mashed potatoes at Tavern On The Green

Jesse Jackson must have been the chef that day.

387 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 5:59:28pm

re: #386 David Simon

Jesse Jackson must have been the chef that day.

naahhh , he only spit in WHITE peoples food

I always have wonderd how pissed Jackson is at Sharton for cutting in on his scam!

388 sagehen  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 6:00:49pm

re: #139 3 wood

Jesse Jackson Jr. and a moonbat lefty Congress lady whose name I can't pronounce or come close to spelling.

No, J3 was candidate E.

I think Tammy Duckworth might have been one of them (she's an undersecretary at the VA now).

389 [deleted]  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 6:01:16pm
390 The Shadow Do  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 6:16:54pm

re: #335 FurryOldGuyJeans

White House expects 'frank' talks between Obama, pope
Jul 8 01:50 PM US/Eastern

I don't want 'frank' talks. I expect the Pope to kick his everlovin ass and I think that could well happen.

Charm the Pope? They agree to disagree and move on? I think not. The Pope is charged with defending doctrine and Church values is he not?

I suspect Obama will be disappointed at the Vatican just as he was in Moscow with the lack of obeisance. What a worry this must be to one who simply expects such things.

Oh well, still have the media to keep up his self esteem.

/This post is brought to you by one who is not Catholic, in fact it is by one who is religiously confused and, at best, agnostic. I do expect the Pope the make a clear moral statement on differences with this President, however.

I hope Gibbs "frank discussion" signpost proves to be a very big understatement.

Go Pope!

391 captdiggs  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 6:48:58pm

One wonders how much further down the toilet this administration will be going.
It's less than 150 days, and it seems to be seeking new lows all the time.

392 quickjustice  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 7:40:04pm

re: #391 captdiggs

Just when you think they can't go any lower . . . they surprise you!

393 quickjustice  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 7:43:04pm

re: #355 garden18

None of this is a surprise. Any of our former allies, including Israel, who is counting on the U.S. will be shocked to discover that they can't count on the U.S. for any support whatsoever.

394 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 8:10:12pm

re: #41 opnion

Stolen in Florida!

opinion -

Al Gore LOST Florida and the 2000 election the day Elian Gonzalez was taken and shipped back to Cuba. That is all.

-S-

395 BatGuano  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 8:24:28pm

Even though nobody asked, my first concert was Lovin' Spoonful, Tucson Arizona, 1966.

396 EaterOfFood  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 8:35:10pm

re: #34 MandyManners

I HOPE EVERYONE WHO REFUSED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN BECAUSE HE WASN'T CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH IS FUCKING HAPPY NOW!

Of course they're happy. They're expecting history to repeat itself in 2012 by the voters miraculously throwing the bums out. But history doesn't occur in set patterns.

re: #309 FurryOldGuyJeans

Oh yeah, Congress doesn't have enough to do that they are debating a non-binding resolution to honor Michael Jackson:

July 6, 2009
Full text of Michael Jackson resolution
@ 3:39 pm by Eric Zimmermann

We're talking about a pop singer and a private citizen. As such I have nothing against him. But the man was hardly Mother Teresa.

The fact that that ugly, psychopathic sack of offal from Minnesota was sworn in as a senator (I pray his political career ends with him being thrown in the slammer) and relatively stuff like this means only one thing:

You can put away the handbasket, we're in Hell.

397 avanti  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 9:18:12pm

re: #379 Gus 802

Yeah, back when he was in his "no flag lapel pin" stage.

How can people ever forget when he, Barrack Obama, didn't salute for the Pledge of Allegiance.

I need some brain bleach.

Not in that picture, it was the National anthem.

"The Facts

The photograph was taken on September 16, 2007, at Senator Tom Harkin's annual steak fry festivities in Iowa, an important ritual for Democratic presidential hopefuls. Contrary to the e-mails attacking Obama for disrespecting the flag, the candidates were not reciting the pledge of allegiance. They were standing for the national anthem.

As far as we can ascertain, the photograph first appeared in Time Magazine on October 1. Visit Time's website for a larger version. It was then picked up by the NewsBusters blog (Motto: "Exposing and Combating Liberal Media Bias"), and from there made its way into all those in-boxes.

To his credit, the NewsBusters blogger does not try to pretend that the photograph had anything to do with the pledge of allegiance. Instead he cites Title 36 or the U.S. Code, which states the following:

During a rendition of the national anthem, when the flag is displayed (A) all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart; (B) men not in uniform should remove their headdress with their right hand and hold the headdress at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart;

By that standard, everybody in the picture (Obama, Richardson, Clinton, and Ruth Harkin) was infringing the Code, as they had their backs to the flag. On the other hand, the Code refers specifically to "Patriotic and National Observances." We welcome the opinion of protocol experts, but we are not sure that a steak fry qualifies as a "Patriotic Observance," even in Iowa. Since the steak fry was awash with flags, it is quite possible that the aforementioned political candidates were facing the flag and had their backs to the flag at the same time."

National Anthem

398 Linda Mae  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 9:51:08pm

Just finished The Patriot. What impressed me most was the discussion of the PR tactics of terrorists. Whenever there is a problem, they rise up and scream racism - and then depend on our sense for political correctness to stop news coverage. This is obvious when we no longer call those who want to harm us what they are: fundamental terrorists. I am amazed that we've been told that the west is Satan - and that our destruction is the only way - and yet people refuse to believe the threats. Bullies in the playground are just like the bullies of the Middle East who want our destruction. Forget being PC. Time for a reality check.

399 jvic  Wed, Jul 8, 2009 11:17:00pm

re: #355 garden18

Here is a link to that Israpundit post. A commenter, who is basically on Belman's side, nevertheless asks

Ted, what’s your source in listing the 9 Obama tools of persuasion?

I have no doubt Obama threatened Netanyahu...

I don't know if Obama threatened Netanyahu but I too am wondering about Belman's source.

Another commenter asks

Where is Yamit82?

I trust he is okay. Maybe on vacation and the Mrs. made him leave his laptop at home.

Hurry back.

Who is Yamit82, I ask: apparently an Israpundit regular. On another Israpundit post, he responded to another commenter named BlandOatmeal . Yamit82 ended his response as follows:

So Oat Fuck America, her president, and leadership that allowed this to happen and the Same with our Cowards and criminal leaders here. This missile test almost guarantees a potential Armageddon. A mini one at least and guess who mostly allowed it to become a reality? Bush! and his Black Ape Condi. Now there is a New Black Ape who can’t add 2+2 and get 4 He thinks it’s 2. Come to think about it, much like you.

The Debka article quoted by Yamit82 is here.

I hold Obama, Bush and Rice in low regard. I am aghast at how far Iran has been allowed to advance. I consider myself a supporter of Israel.

However, if I come to believe that Yamit82's vile bigotry reflects Israeli opinion at large, I will conclude that Israel has discarded its moral claim and my support will end. It's easy to draw a conclusion about a site that allows comments like Yamit82's.

(Btw, at the moment, the Israpundit front page includes an ad for Geert Wilders.)

400 philip  Thu, Jul 9, 2009 10:00:56am

Hate speech is prevalent at Christian and Republican events too so I am kinda yawning at this "report."

401 EaterOfFood  Thu, Jul 9, 2009 10:03:20am

re: #400 philip

You seriously believe the two are equivalent?

402 Pupdawg  Thu, Jul 9, 2009 10:58:36am

...plenty of clinched fists to work on, eh? You think Valerie's fists were clinched in soildarity, too...possibly?

403 Green Helmet Guy  Thu, Jul 9, 2009 11:00:44am

This Convention would be a great place for PETA to dump their 10+ tons of "Pig Excrement"

404 philip  Thu, Jul 9, 2009 5:33:40pm

re: #401 EaterOfFood

You seriously believe the two are equivalent?

Yes; I believe hate speech is hate speech.

405 Ed_Gibbon  Fri, Jul 10, 2009 10:45:39am

re: #45 SasquatchOnSteroids

'04 Reminiscing...SEN. KERRY:If you take half the people at an Ohio State football game on Saturday afternoon and they were to have voted the other way, you and I would be having a discussion today about my State of the Union speech...

MR. RUSSERT: And the president will say if he had half the people at a high school basketball game in New Hampshire or Oregon, he would have carried those states because he lost them by 5,000 or 7,000.

SEN. KERRY: Well, the point is---that's right

Good job JFK!


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