That doesn't sound like something a good person would ever say.

Tell me again why we are so concerned about the members of the EU liking us.

Sink them with what? The EU submarine force?
/

Griffin is nothing but a fat, smug pig.

So, we've gone beyond turning the boats back, as in post-war mandated Palestine, and now we're into sinking them? What a complete and total smeghead is Mr. Griffin.

And the ugly impulses of Europe are out for everyone to see yet again...and do nothing about

The Brits are coming up with creative ways to quarantine the BNP...
UK diplomats shun BNP officials in Europe

The government is to single out Nick Griffin and Andrew Brons, the British National party's two newly elected representatives in the European parliament, for special treatment, denying them some of the access and information afforded to all the other 70 UK MEPs.

Under new guidelines drafted in Whitehall and in the Foreign Office following the June elections to the European parliament, the two BNP leaders will be kept at arm's length from the kind of routine contacts and socialising that take place between British civil servants and MEPs in Brussels and Strasbourg.

When the new parliament convenes next week in Strasbourg, Glenys Kinnock, the new Europe minister, is to host a reception for all British MEPs. Only Griffin and Brons have not been invited.

"Officials will not engage in any other contact with elected representatives of any nationality who represent extremist or racist views, unless specific permission has been granted to do so on a particular occasion from the FCO permanent under-secretary and the minister for Europe," a government spokesperson said.

The official said that the BNP duo would be subject to the "same general principles governing official impartiality" and they would receive "standard written briefings as appropriate from time to time".

But British diplomats made plain that they would not be "proactive" in dealing with the BNP MEPs and that any requests for policy briefings from Griffin or Brons would be treated differently and on a discretionary basis.

It's not murder at sea -- sink a boat and throw them a life raft.
Well, of COURSE!
Thank you for the explanation, Mr. Griffin.
Humanity and decency abounds in the depths of your anal region!

re: #6 Jewels (AKA Julian)

And the ugly impulses of Europe are out for everyone to see yet again...and do nothing about

In the nightmare of the dark
All the dogs of Europe bark,
And the living nations wait,
Each sequestered in its hate.

Remember, this is the kind of loser Gam Peller wants us to make nice with.

No, thanks- I have standards.

/Admittedly, they're not high, but he's below them.

cheers

eon

Nick rhythms with DICK

re: #11 Desert Dog

Nick rhythms with DICK

Nick is a dick.

re: #11 Desert Dog

Nick rhythms with DICK

...and you can get the word "fricking" out of his name, but I don't know what to do with the remaining letters.

re: #14 John Neverbend

...and you can get the word "fricking" out of his name, but I don't know what to do with the remaining letters.

Nick is a fricking dick.

Can't we put him on a boat and ship him somewhere? Pretty please?

re: #15 MandyManners

Nick is a fricking dick.

That works.

UN Blue Helmeted Pirates?

"Compassionate Nazism"?

Repugnant, reprehensible, and utterly par for the course in Europe. And as KT points out in #7, the British response to limit information isn't all that great either. This sounds just fine and dandy until the rubber meets the road:

Under new guidelines drafted in Whitehall and in the Foreign Office following the June elections to the European parliament, the two BNP leaders will be kept at arm's length from the kind of routine contacts and socialising that take place between British civil servants and MEPs in Brussels and Strasbourg.

When the new parliament convenes next week in Strasbourg, Glenys Kinnock, the new Europe minister, is to host a reception for all British MEPs. Only Griffin and Brons have not been invited.

Either these two are legitimately elected officials or they're not. By singling them out for special treatment, they're opening a Pandora's box of trouble, particularly if the BNP gains additional seats and manages a position of power. They will be sure to use the same kind of treatment to suppress and oppress their opposition.

I want to know who they're socializing with.
I want to see who they're looking to contact and spread their odious and noxious views.

All this does is hide it from view. It certainly doesn't eliminate it.

re: #12 buzzsawmonkey

Who are we to judge other people's views? Whatever floats your boat.

/multiculti off

Funny - but if someone like, oh, Castro had said that, or Mugabe, that would be precisely what we'd hear.

Give the sharks a new route to follow!

/ Rep. Major Owens

re: #15 MandyManners

Nick is a fricking dick.

And like most such, rather lacking in cojones'.

I notice he's not volunteering to go down to the Med and take the bridge himself.

"You never carry a gun yourself, you always hire it done."- John Wayne to Ed Asner, El Dorado (1967)

/One of the ten best Westerns ever made.

cheers

eon

there are times when I am really glad that I cant get some of these videos as well as no sound card.

re: #19 Summer

"Compassionate Nazism"?

There's a subtle irony in the "special treatment" or Sonderbehandlung afforded to Mr. Dick by his MEP colleagues.

Repost from previous thread:

OFF TOPIC - NEED YOUR HELP

There is a 16 year old girl in the hospital in Florida with a Congenital Heart Defect. Eventually she will need a transplant but that won't happen for a while. She was admitted in mid-June with an infection and has been there ever since.

She was intubated two weeks ago (roughly) and today at 4:00 PM Eastern (2000 GMT) they are going to remove the Intubation Tube and perform a Tracheostomy. Her health is still pretty fragile, and as you can guess, she's scared. So are her parents. So if you have a few moments around 4 PM, think good thoughts for "Florida Eliza." (I have a friend from Colorado with the same name; that's what I say to make sure we're talking about the right person!)

News seems to travel slow sometimes, but as soon as I hear how things are going, I *WILL* let you know... later today, tomorrow, or even later than that, if needed.

re: #3 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Sink them with what? The EU submarine force?
/

The EU will airdrop enough paperwork on the boats to sink a supertanker.

re: #20 lawhawk

I think the point is to keep them isolated. They certainly can't be trusted with sensitive information. Also by keeping them isolated prevents them from any political relevancy in the parliamentary system because it makes it difficult for the to make coalitions with other smaller parties.

re: #27 Kosh's Shadow

The EU will airdrop enough paperwork on the boats to sink a supertanker.

Refugee application?

Am I right in assuming that many of these boats are probably overloaded to begin with? Exactly how is one to sink such a boat without loss of life in that immediate process, Mr. Griffin?

We need to run an exercise to develop the proceedure, Mr. Griffin.

Since you're the resident expert, would you climb on board this boat over here, Mr. Griffin?

Don't worry. I've heard it said that shit floats. You're in no danger.

i would like to immigrate my foot up his nazi ass

re: #20 lawhawk

Repugnant, reprehensible, and utterly par for the course in Europe. And as KT points out in #7, the British response to limit information isn't all that great either. This sounds just fine and dandy until the rubber meets the road:

Either these two are legitimately elected officials or they're not. By singling them out for special treatment, they're opening a Pandora's box of trouble, particularly if the BNP gains additional seats and manages a position of power. They will be sure to use the same kind of treatment to suppress and oppress their opposition.

I want to know who they're socializing with.
I want to see who they're looking to contact and spread their odious and noxious views.

All this does is hide it from view. It certainly doesn't eliminate it.

150 years ago they would have just sent them to Australia.

re: #29 BlueCanuck

Refugee application?

Environmental impact statements.

cheers

eon

re: #28 Killgore Trout

I understand the rationale behind doing that, but I see bad outcomes should the roles be reversed. Besides, can they really block communications that thoroughly to prevent small parties from linking up and voting as a bloc?

re: #15 MandyManners

Nick is a fricking dick.

And he makes me fricking sick.

re: #29 BlueCanuck

Refugee application?

In quadruplicate, per person. Now with an environmental impact statement for all the CO2 they'll emit.
///

re: #35 Mad Al-Jaffee

And he makes me fricking sick.

Poor chick.

This is why Eurofascist sympathizers must be kicked to the curb, wherever they are found, whoever they may be. Legal vs. Illegal immigration debate is one thing. Outright murder is another.

re: #37 MandyManners

Poor chick.

I'm sick of his schtick.

re: #28 Killgore Trout

I think the point is to keep them isolated. They certainly can't be trusted with sensitive information. Also by keeping them isolated prevents them from any political relevancy in the parliamentary system because it makes it difficult for the to make coalitions with other smaller parties.

Call out the extremists where you find them. Make them repeat their hateful beliefs out in the open, every day...sunlight it still the best disinfectant.

re: #39 Kosh's Shadow

I'm sick of his schtick.

That was quick.

And many on the anti-jihad side think we should welcome "thinkers" such as this into our fold?

re: #41 MandyManners

That was quick.

And slick.

re: #38 Bloodnok

This is why Eurofascist sympathizers must be kicked to the curb, wherever they are found, whoever they may be. Legal vs. Illegal immigration debate is one thing. Outright murder is another.

You're making poor widdle Pammy cwy.

re: #42 Lee Coller

And many on the anti-jihad side think we should welcome "thinkers" such as this into our fold?

I wonder what part of "Never again" they don't understand?

re: #43 BlueCanuck

And slick.

As a wick.

re: #41 MandyManners

That was quick.

I want to kick him in the...

Maybe they could get more support if they said they planned to sink the boats due to their carbon footprints?

/

re: #43 BlueCanuck

re: #41 MandyManners

But can you make it stick? Without making everyone go 'ick!'?

And slick.

Nick Griffin is a lunatic. How the UK can sit there with a straight face knowing that his crazy man is representing them at the EU is confounding.

Sink boats? Sink boats and then "throw them a life raft" and "let them go back to Lybia?" How does he propose to sink these boats? By using underwater charges or surface weaponry? How would that not cause injury if not death to the people on board?

re: #34 lawhawk

I understand the rationale behind doing that, but I see bad outcomes should the roles be reversed. Besides, can they really block communications that thoroughly to prevent small parties from linking up and voting as a bloc?

The fact that they apparently believe they can makes me suspect they still haven't heard of this little thing called the Internet.

To say nothing of cellphones, laptops, WiFi, etc.

The Parliament, especially the Conservatives, need to get with the program. They needn't worry about somehow "offending tradition"- after all, in Lords they could hide a PC under all that scarlet and ermine.

/Or did they finally deep-six the funny suits and wigs?

cheers

eon

re: #47 Mad Al-Jaffee

I want to kick him in the...

Brick?

re: #49 Fenway_Nation

Don't lay it on so thick.

re: #26 SteveC

consider it done. keep us posted.

re: #54 MandyManners

re: #49 Fenway_Nation

Don't lay it on so thick.

Why? Are you inferring I'm some sort of hick?

re: #54 MandyManners

Don't lay it on so thick.

That's the trick, not to thick.

Sub-Saharan Africans who show the courage to defy dictators and row a boat all the way to Europe?

Captain, these are exactly the kind of go-getters I want on my EM-50 project.

re: #56 Fenway_Nation

That's just his shtick...

re: #55 mikeymom

consider it done. keep us posted.

As soon as I find out anything. Thank you!

re: #59 Kenneth

That's just his shtick...

Go flick my bic.

re: #56 Fenway_Nation

Why? Are you inferring I'm some sort of hick?

Oh, no--you're quite the pick.

I'd love to see Griffin in one of his rafts, paddling for Libya.

/preferably from the vicinity of Nice ... or Iceland

re: #57 jcm

That's the trick, not to thick.

That's the only way it'll stick.

re: #59 Kenneth

That's just his shtick...

His? I ain't got no dick.

Well, to pick up on the Mad Max posts in an earlier thread, let's put Nick and "Red Ken" Livingston in an arena somewhere and let them fight it out to the death. Film it and call it "Beyond ThunderDumb".

Even have the song ready to go: "We Don't Need Another Zero."

Morons, both.

re: #64 MandyManners

Eeww...ick!

re: #65 MandyManners

His? I ain't got no dick.

neither does Nick

re: #61 KenJen

Go flick my bic.

We've already done "slick".

re: #65 MandyManners

His? I ain't got no dick.

Then what's that hanging over your mantel?

Nick Griffin sounds like he's doing his best to make the UK the dystopian nation as portrayed in Children of Men.

X's left nut.

re: #61 KenJen

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re: #63 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'd love to see Griffin in one of his rafts, paddling for Libya.

/preferably from the vicinity of Nice ... or Iceland

He's so large he'd need a barge.

re: #70 Kenneth

Then what's that hanging over your mantel?

It sure ain't a dick, just the accessories that go with it.

I remember in the late 90's, when Albania was breaking down after the collapse of the Ponzi schemes, and all sorts of people were taking boats to Italy, a right-wing Italian minister proposed to "throw them out in the sea."

Buttiamoli a mare! -- the bitch said.

Not very nice people, these BNP folks.

re: #58 KingKenrod

Sub-Saharan Africans who show the courage to defy dictators and row a boat all the way to Europe?

Captain, these are exactly the kind of go-getters I want on my EM-50 project.

What kind of training will that require?

re: #74 KenJen

He's so large he'd need a barge.

Piloted by Madam Defarge?

re: #61 KenJen

Go flick my bic.

ooops #73 should be...

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re: #78 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What kind of training will that require?

Arrrmmmyyy training sir.

re: #79 MandyManners

Piloted by Madam Defarge?

She's in charge?

re: #79 MandyManners

Piloted by Madam Defarge?

Looks like a close knit group to me.

re: #81 BlueCanuck

Arrrmmmyyy training sir.

Boomshockalocka.

He should have said: "We will round them up once they reach our territorial waters, give them a meal, put them on a plane, give them a parachute, push them out over their home countries using a static line, and then sink their boat in shallower waters creating an artificial reef for scuba divers."

re: #82 KenJen

She's in charge?

Not in my garage.

re: #66 subsailor68

Can Georgie Galloway be Livingston's dimunitive, brainy sidekick a-la Master Blaster Baiter?

re: #46 MandyManners

As a wick.

It did the trick.

re: #86 MandyManners

Not in my garage.

Nothing rhymes with garage.

Nick Griffin agrees with Vlaams Belang: "We urgently need global chemotherapy against Islam to save civilisation."

BNP spark controversy in Europe

The BNP leader Nick Griffin has described Islam as a “cancer” that should be removed from Europe by "chemotherapy".

In an interview with Channel 4 News, Mr Griffin, who has just been elected to the European Parliament, said there was "no place in Europe for Islam".

The BNP leader said he agreed with a candidate for the Flemish far right party, Vlaams Belang, who had declared: "We urgently need global chemotherapy against Islam to save civilisation."
...

I'm sure that he would call himself a 'compassionate conservative'.

re: #83 subsailor68

Looks like a close knit group to me.

Are we back to WAB's purls?

re: #89 KenJen

Nothing rhymes with garage.

Massage.

re: #68 Desert Dog

neither does Nick

"Yes, it's true... This man has no dick."
- Peter Venkman

re: #89 KenJen

Sabotage.

re: #74 KenJen

He's so large he'd need a barge.

The circling sharks would think they'd died and gone to heaven the local bulk-foods warehouse.

bbiab

re: #95 Killgore Trout

Sabotage.

Lavage

re: #93 Creeping Eruption

Elk lodge.

re: #89 KenJen

Nothing rhymes with garage.

Well, there's always dressage. I'd have said that out loud, but I'm a little horse.

re: #98 Creeping Eruption

Lavage

Barrage

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Nick Griffin agrees with Vlaams Belang: "We urgently need global chemotherapy against Islam to save civilisation."

BNP spark controversy in Europe

Sounds like Nick Griffin would feel comfortable in Rodan's little echo chamber calling for nuking certain cities.

Disgusting.

re: #58 KingKenrod

Sub-Saharan Africans who show the courage to defy dictators and row a boat all the way to Europe?

Captain, these are exactly the kind of go-getters I want on my EM-50 project.

Yes, and DNickhead should consider that a lot of those "Sub-Saharan Africans" are Christians, animists, and just plain sensible people who have made a choice on the grounds of moving somewhere where they won't be killed or de facto enslaved for having the "wrong" religion.

Gee, I thought the BNP was against "pandering" to Islamists?

Cutting off an "escape route" for the people they want to reduce to produce would, I suspect, make a few governments in Northern Africa entirely too happy.

Once more, the "logic" of a racist philosophy ends up biting its followers right on the a$$.

/Irrationality knows no season.

cheers

eon

re: #95 Killgore Trout

Sabotage.

CANT STAND IT, I KNOW YOU PLANNED IT!

re: #89 KenJen

re: #86 MandyManners

Nothing rhymes with garage.

Hajj.

O.K. So nothing rhymes with orange.

re: #89 KenJen

Nothing rhymes with garage.

Barrage.

Akron police investigate attack on family

I know someone posted this earlier, but you know, this story seems a little strange to me. The article states that Marshall (the father I gather) was in the critical care portion of the hospital for 5 days following the alleged assault. But today is the 9th. So, if he has been in the ICU for 5 nights with bruises to his head, etc. why does he look so healthy in this photo?

Doesn't seem to add up. Am I overlooking something?

re: #106 KenJen

O.K. So nothing rhymes with orange.

Strange.

cheers

eon

re: #107 Dianna

Mirage

re: #107 Dianna

Barrage.

The collage was merely a mirage.

re: #89 KenJen

Nothing rhymes with garage.

You're not trying hard enough to be hit with a barrage.

re: #106 KenJen

O.K. So nothing rhymes with orange.

Orange u glad I didn't try to make a rhyme?

re: #92 MandyManners

Are we back to WAB's purls?

I didn't know that she knitted anything except her brows in deep frowns.

re: #104 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #89 KenJen

Nothing rhymes with garage.

richard armitage...?

re: #106 KenJen

O.K. So nothing rhymes with orange.

1/2 rhyme - Lozenge.

re: #106 KenJen

O.K. So nothing rhymes with orange.

There was a song about that on "HR Pufenstuf" one time. Witchypoo sang it, was called "Oranges Poranges".

Why do I remember that?

re: #5 John Neverbend

So, we've gone beyond turning the boats back, as in post-war mandated Palestine, and now we're into sinking them? What a complete and total smeghead is Mr. Griffin.

Well, they sank boats then too, but I agree that Mr. Griffin is a smeghead.

Then there's the British way of pronouncing "garage" so that it rhymes with carriage.

re: #106 KenJen

Lozenge is a half rhyme.

re: #113 LGoPs

Orange u glad I didn't try to make a rhyme?

"Who's there?"

re: #89 KenJen

Nothing rhymes with garage.

Menage?

re: #120 Kenneth

Then there's the British way of pronouncing "garage" so that it rhymes with carriage.

that's where Lauri parks her lorry

re: #120 Kenneth

Then there's the British way of pronouncing "garage" so that it rhymes with carriage.

Mainly in the north of England.

re: #108 WinterCat

Akron police investigate attack on family

I know someone posted this earlier, but you know, this story seems a little strange to me. The article states that Marshall (the father I gather) was in the critical care portion of the hospital for 5 days following the alleged assault. But today is the 9th. So, if he has been in the ICU for 5 nights with bruises to his head, etc. why does he look so healthy in this photo?

Doesn't seem to add up. Am I overlooking something?

I thought that smelled a little funny, too. Even as described, the injuries do not seem commensurate with a beat down by a large crowd of youths, nor do they seem like they'd require 5 nights in the very expensive ICU. Funny how his 90-lb. daughter and petite wife seem fine. I'll await further information, but if it's a hoax, I hope he's charged for making a false report.

re: #108 WinterCat

Akron police investigate attack on family

I know someone posted this earlier, but you know, this story seems a little strange to me. The article states that Marshall (the father I gather) was in the critical care portion of the hospital for 5 days following the alleged assault. But today is the 9th. So, if he has been in the ICU for 5 nights with bruises to his head, etc. why does he look so healthy in this photo?

Doesn't seem to add up. Am I overlooking something?

You're right. Doesn't add up.

Research other stories written by this Phil Trexler.
Could be advocacy journalism, or an utter dunce.

OT- Not sure if this has been posted. I have been away from the computer, trying to get one of those 'job' thingies that seem to be all the rage.
[Link: newsbusters.org...]

re: #118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

There was a song about that on "HR Pufenstuf" one time. Witchypoo sang it, was called "Oranges Poranges".

Why do I remember that?

Because like me, you spent the sunny Saturdays of your childhood in front of the television. You probably didn't have a crush on Jack Wilde like I did, though.

bbl

re: #106 KenJen

O.K. So nothing rhymes with orange.

Forange. As in the joke about the shiny red vehicle that goes to the scene of a fire...in Baltimore.

re: #108 WinterCat

Akron police investigate attack on family

I know someone posted this earlier, but you know, this story seems a little strange to me. The article states that Marshall (the father I gather) was in the critical care portion of the hospital for 5 days following the alleged assault. But today is the 9th. So, if he has been in the ICU for 5 nights with bruises to his head, etc. why does he look so healthy in this photo?

Doesn't seem to add up. Am I overlooking something?

I think that we can't see his face, and any head injury is serious.

I also think there's something very odd about that story. Not that no one was killed - it actually takes a lot of skill or flat-out accident to kill someone, particularly when it's a large number of kids getting in each others' way - but the idea that so many kids would be swarming around, and there were no other attacks, except on this party.

You're right - it feels off.

re: #126 doppelganglander

I thought that smelled a little funny, too. Even as described, the injuries do not seem commensurate with a beat down by a large crowd of youths, nor do they seem like they'd require 5 nights in the very expensive ICU. Funny how his 90-lb. daughter and petite wife seem fine. I'll await further information, but if it's a hoax, I hope he's charged for making a false report.

I really hate when people make fake reports especially about a racially motivated crime. They are so incredibly damaging all the way around. My money is on this being a fake.

re: #10 eon

Remember, this is the kind of loser Gam Peller wants us to make nice with.

Downdinged ya 'cause you compared that person with a cute Japanese TV character!

re: #108 WinterCat

Doesn't seem to add up. Am I overlooking something?

Reminds me of a recent local story in which a kid claimed to have been jumped by 5 guys, each of whom was 6' 2" and 190 to 200 lbs.

re: #128 buzzsawmonkey

That is The Perpetual Scowl of the Incompetent Supervisor™.

Sister Mary Perpetua Scowlis Incompetentus.

Howdy.

Two very good pieces today about Obama's tyrant-hugging foreign policy.

Jonah Goldberg at NRO:

In April, at a news conference following a meeting of the Organization of American States, Obama proclaimed, “What we showed here is that we can make progress when we’re willing to break free from some of the stale debates and old ideologies that have dominated and distorted the debate in this hemisphere for far too long.” Hillary Clinton was more pithy: “Let’s put ideology aside,” the secretary of state said. “That is so yesterday.” It’s worth recalling that those old ideological debates often involved America championing democracy against those who pushed for socialism. One wonders which ideological stance Obama thinks is stale.

And Daniel Henninger at Opinion Journal. Pull quote to come... the f***ng WSJ page hung up on me, as it so often f***ng well does, which frustrates the hell out of me.

re: #89 KenJen

Nothing rhymes with garage.

[Waving hand frantically] Oh, I know a word that does -- ask me, ask me!

re: #129 Cannadian Club Akbar

OT- Not sure if this has been posted.

It did appear yesterday, but it reminds me that I still can't figure out what Sarah Palin might have done to Wacko Jacko, other than ensuring that he was as far away as possible from her children.

re: #103 eon

Yes, and DNickhead should consider that a lot of those "Sub-Saharan Africans" are Christians, animists, and just plain sensible people who have made a choice on the grounds of moving somewhere where they won't be killed or de facto enslaved for having the "wrong" religion.

Gee, I thought the BNP was against "pandering" to Islamists?

Cutting off an "escape route" for the people they want to reduce to produce would, I suspect, make a few governments in Northern Africa entirely too happy.

Once more, the "logic" of a racist philosophy ends up biting its followers right on the a$$.

/Irrationality knows no season.

cheers

eon

Hitler poured resources into the death camps that were desperately needed for the war effort. People like this will always put their energy into destroying the people they hate most, and for Nicky G., that's any black family trying like hell to get somewhere safe with food.

Okay, here we go:

Mr. Obama's political equivalence, conventional wisdom now among many Western sophisticates, is wrong and dangerous. Unless the West, led by the U.S. under this president, offers active push-back against the Russian definition of democracy, their version inexorably will back out ours.

2 Canadian soldiers killed in chopper crash in Af'stan

My condolences to their families.

re: #120 Kenneth

Then there's the British way of pronouncing "garage" so that it rhymes with carriage.

We really should have included mandatory pronunciation lessons as a condition to that whole Marshall Plan deal.

(For instance; there is no letter "f" in the word "Lieutentant". I don't care how many Oxford dons pronounce it otherwise.)

re: #139 Throbert McGee

[Waving hand frantically] Oh, I know a word that does -- ask me, ask me!

[Points] Throbert?

re: #144 Occasional Reader

We really should have included mandatory pronunciation lessons as a condition to that whole Marshall Plan deal.

(For instance; there is no letter "f" in the word "Lieutentant". I don't care how many Oxford dons pronounce it otherwise.)

LOL. Growing up, I always wanted to know what a "leftenant" was.

And in a brief nod to on-topic; Nick Griffin and the BNP can go get stuffed.

re: #144 Occasional Reader

We really should have included mandatory pronunciation lessons as a condition to that whole Marshall Plan deal.

(For instance; there is no letter "f" in the word "Lieutentant". I don't care how many Oxford dons pronounce it otherwise.)

Debatable. But I do know that there are not 3 "t"s in the word.

re: #145 doppelganglander

[Points] Throbert?

Uh-oh.

(Throbert knows lots of... um... specialty vocabulary.)

re: #144 Occasional Reader

We really should have included mandatory pronunciation lessons as a condition to that whole Marshall Plan deal.

(For instance; there is no letter "f" in the word "Lieutentant". I don't care how many Oxford dons pronounce it otherwise.)

However, "sod off wanker" is usually pronounced properly, I've notice (at least when it's been yelled at me)

Five times now since I downloaded Firefox 3.5, I have accidentally made my current LGF tab into a new window. I don't know how I do it, and I wish I could undo it.

re: #148 John Neverbend

Debatable. But I do know that there are not 3 "t"s in the word.

Hey, one's a one-off typo. The other is a culturally-entrenched pronounce-o!

re: #146 Creeping Eruption

LOL. Growing up, I always wanted to know what a "leftenant" was.

He comes below a captain in the army. Oo-er, that sounds a bit rude.

re: #146 Creeping Eruption

LOL. Growing up, I always wanted to know what a "leftenant" was.

It sounds like a Labor Party local boss, doesn't it?

re: #150 Desert Dog

However, "sod off wanker" is usually pronounced properly, I've notice (at least when it's been yelled at me)

How does one pronounce "sod off wanker" incorrectly? Is this akin to Mr. Luxury Yacht?

re: #154 Occasional Reader

It sounds like a Labor Party local boss, doesn't it?

So, is his Tory equivalent a 'rightenant'?

re: #155 John Neverbend

How does one pronounce "sod off wanker" incorrectly?

In the Albanian gangster fashion, akin to "forging icehole".

re: #151 wrenchwench

Five times now since I downloaded Firefox 3.5, I have accidentally made my current LGF tab into a new window. I don't know how I do it, and I wish I could undo it.

Find out where you can set options or preferences. If I recall, in FF you can set several things to happen automatically.

re: #134 WinterCat

I really hate when people make fake reports especially about a racially motivated crime. They are so incredibly damaging all the way around. My money is on this being a fake.

I feel the same way about false rape allegations. We had a case recently where a pizza delivery man "rescued" a woman who claimed to have been abducted and raped by her neighbor. He said they'd been having an affair and were on a quickie vacation. The police filed rape charges and his wife filed for divorce. Turns out this was not the first time this woman had cried wolf, and all evidence pointed to the man as telling the truth. The charges were dropped, but his life was already ruined. (Admittedly, he pretty much deserved to have his wife leave him.) No charges were pressed against the woman for filing a false report, though.

re: #153 John Neverbend

He comes below a captain in the army. Oo-er, that sounds a bit rude.

I'm still finding permutations of innuendo to laugh about.

Very well down!

/

re: #153 John Neverbend

He comes below a captain in the army. Oo-er, that sounds a bit rude.

So was making it necessary for me to visit the Urban Dictionary to look up 'smeghead'...;>)

re: #23 eon

/One of the ten best Westerns ever made.

The others being (IYHO)?

(An aside; I finally got around to seeing Red River and The Searchers within the last few months. I thought they were both kind of... weird.)

Oh. just thought of something else that rhymes with garage. Decolletage. Cant believe the boob thread pros didn't come up with that.

re: #144 Occasional Reader

We really should have included mandatory pronunciation lessons as a condition to that whole Marshall Plan deal.

(For instance; there is no letter "f" in the word "Lieutentant". I don't care how many Oxford dons pronounce it otherwise.)

Heh... I don't think there are three "t"s in it either ;-)

US Marine realities in Helmand

Once again, non-military agencies have failed to support the US military’s actions. Talk in the Obama strategy about diplomacy, aid, governance, policing, agriculture and local infrastructure has come to nought because none of the people have been made available by their agencies. The US military might be at war, but the rest of the US and the US government certainly is not. The troops will have to do it all, probably until at least the end of this year. The two constants of modern military operations... are the failure of our societies to ever provide enough troops initially, and the failure of our governments to provide non-military (interagency) personnel.

re: #149 Occasional Reader

Uh-oh.

(Throbert knows lots of... um... specialty vocabulary.)

I hadn't thought about that. Throbert, explain yourself, young man. In polite terms, if possible.

garage/mirage

re: #161 scottishbuzzsaw

So was making it necessary for me to visit the Urban Dictionary to look up 'smeghead'...;>)

I see you're not familiar with Red Dwarf.

Also, it is PATENTLY clear that there are more than three syllables in "Gloucestershire".

re: #164 eschew_obfuscation

Heh... I don't think there are three "t"s in it either ;-)

Good catch.

re: #163 KenJen

That deserves a double-upding!

re: #159 doppelganglander

I feel the same way about false rape allegations. We had a case recently where a pizza delivery man "rescued" a woman who claimed to have been abducted and raped by her neighbor. He said they'd been having an affair and were on a quickie vacation. The police filed rape charges and his wife filed for divorce. Turns out this was not the first time this woman had cried wolf, and all evidence pointed to the man as telling the truth. The charges were dropped, but his life was already ruined. (Admittedly, he pretty much deserved to have his wife leave him.) No charges were pressed against the woman for filing a false report, though.

People are always damaged for long periods of time when they have been falsely accuesed of something.

whatever happened to the guy who was falsely accused in the Tawana Brawley case? anybody know?

Everywhere I worked, I would include in our complaint procedure specific prohibitions against false accusations, and penalties for those who were found to have filed a false complaint against a co-worker. It's costly to be falsely accused, both in terms of reputation, and often, financially also, as the person may hire an attorney at his own expense.

I just thought of a rhyme for oranges, but it's a bit graphic for the light of day.

(Two-word phrase that could describe the "moneyshot" in a certain movie genre.)

re: #163 KenJen

Oh. just thought of something else that rhymes with garage. Decolletage. Cant believe the boob thread pros didn't come up with that.

You got me. I come up totally flat.

re: #168 John Neverbend

I see you're not familiar with Red Dwarf.

Sorry, I was enjoying a piping hot bowl of gazpacho soup

re: #173 Throbert McGee

I just thought of a rhyme for oranges, but it's a bit graphic for the light of day.

(Two-word phrase that could describe the "moneyshot" in a certain movie genre.)

I'm rather relieved to report that I can't think of the word.

re: #162 Occasional Reader

An aside; I finally got around to seeing Red River

Hey, OR -- ever had a good Swiss watch?

re: #175 buzzsawmonkey

I haven't thought of that song in years.

Why does it make me think of John Kerry?

re: #173 Throbert McGee

I just thought of a rhyme for oranges, but it's a bit graphic for the light of day.

(Two-word phrase that could describe the "moneyshot" in a certain movie genre.)

I'm probably happier not knowing.

re: #168 John Neverbend

I see you're not familiar with Red Dwarf.

No.

It was definition #3 that...well...eeewww.

re: #178 Throbert McGee

Hey, OR -- ever had a good Swiss watch?

[drawing a blank... reference to the movie?]

re: #173 Throbert McGee

I just thought of a rhyme for oranges, but it's a bit graphic for the light of day.

(Two-word phrase that could describe the "moneyshot" in a certain movie genre.)

Something like P--n G--z ?

re: #173 Throbert McGee

I just thought of a rhyme for oranges, but it's a bit graphic for the light of day.

(Two-word phrase that could describe the "moneyshot" in a certain movie genre.)

Not a clue. Need a better hint.

re: #180 buzzsawmonkey

If the Swiss is into watching, how good can he or she be?

I once tried to pick up a Swiss Miss, but she was truly on her Swiss Guard.

re: #168 John Neverbend

re: #184 eschew_obfuscation

Something like P--n G--z ?

I thought I had a dirty mind, but I'm clueless on how to fill in that one.

re: #169 Occasional Reader

Also, it is PATENTLY clear that there are more than three syllables in "Gloucestershire".

There was a BBC sports announcer who used to pronounce "Wimbledon" as though it had no vowels. Then, over time, he started to drop consonants. He started with Wmbldn and then progressed to Wmln. By the way, if anybody from 77 WABC is listening, it's pronounced Wimbledon not Wimbleton.

re: #187 Occasional Reader

I once tried to pick up a Swiss Miss, but she was truly on her Swiss Guard.

So, you got Berned?

re: #159 doppelganglander

I feel the same way about false rape allegations. We had a case recently where a pizza delivery man "rescued" a woman who claimed to have been abducted and raped by her neighbor. He said they'd been having an affair and were on a quickie vacation. The police filed rape charges and his wife filed for divorce. Turns out this was not the first time this woman had cried wolf, and all evidence pointed to the man as telling the truth. The charges were dropped, but his life was already ruined. (Admittedly, he pretty much deserved to have his wife leave him.) No charges were pressed against the woman for filing a false report, though.

I agree, false accusations like that can destroy lives. Sadly, the person who makes that allegations too often just walks away when it is over.

I too know of someone who had an experience with an individual making false claims. Won't get into the particulars but fortunately the courts saw right through them. However, the person making the claim walked away smirking that she had delivered a good deal of pain to an innocent party.

In days gone by,
When I was sly,
And tried to catch a lady's eye,
I'd nod and bow,
Then ask her how,
She'd like an orange.

Nope, doesn't rhyme with anything.

;-)

re: #176 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sorry, I was enjoying a piping hot bowl of gazpacho soup

Oh, you are familiar, then.

re: #189 medaura18586

I thought I had a dirty mind, but I'm clueless on how to fill in that one.

Sorry... it's probably a long shot anyway ;-) It's just about as far as I can go in public.

re: #191 solomonpanting

So, you got Berned?

Drank his cocoa too quickly?

re: #174 Creeping Eruption

You got me. I come up totally flat.

Oh, come on. Take the plunge.

re: #189 medaura18586

I thought I had a dirty mind, but I'm clueless on how to fill in that one.

You've led an even cleaner life than I have, apparently. (I *can* figure out how to fill that one in.)

re: #191 solomonpanting

So, you got Berned?

I'm staying neutral on this.

re: #191 solomonpanting

So, you got Berned?

She threw him onto Zermatt.

re: #165 Kenneth

US Marine realities in Helmand

I'm getting a really bad feeling about this Helmand Province operation. It looks too much like the sweep operations that Westmorland conducted in Vietnam. We go in, in force. The enemy just sort of melts into the woodwork, or moves to the next province over. We don't have enough troops to hold the area, and the local forces aren't capable of doing that job. Once we leave, the enemy re-surfaces and kills off anyone who cooperated with us, leaving the enemy in a stronger position than ever. I'm waiting for someone to start issuing daily body counts.

re: #172 reine.de.tout

People are always damaged for long periods of time when they have been falsely accuesed of something.

whatever happened to the guy who was falsely accused in the Tawana Brawley case? anybody know?

Everywhere I worked, I would include in our complaint procedure specific prohibitions against false accusations, and penalties for those who were found to have filed a false complaint against a co-worker. It's costly to be falsely accused, both in terms of reputation, and often, financially also, as the person may hire an attorney at his own expense.

It was Steven Pagones, an assistant district attorney. He sued and won. He never got a dime from Sharpton or Brawley, but Johnnie Cochrane eventually paid Sharpton's liability, which was a paltry $65K. Neither one of them or anyone else involved admitted it was nothing but a pack of lies.

I can think of some folks who might have some VERY interesting insights on the whole "boats" question.

Montezuma
Sitting Bull
Crazy Horse
Geronimo

re: #196 scottishbuzzsaw

Drank his cocoa too quickly?

That's Quik.

re: #197 MandyManners

Oh, come on. Take the plunge.

Yeah. Put your neck on the line.

re: #200 John Neverbend

She threw him onto Zermatt.

I had been hoping for a more "erotic literature" type of ending: "Their arms and legs began to Interlocken passion..."

re: #181 doppelganglander

I'm probably happier not knowing.

Yeah, he's ummm, how do ya say gay in pig latin?

re: #201 Son of the Black Dog

I'm getting a really bad feeling about this Helmand Province operation. It looks too much like the sweep operations that Westmorland conducted in Vietnam. We go in, in force. The enemy just sort of melts into the woodwork, or moves to the next province over. We don't have enough troops to hold the area, and the local forces aren't capable of doing that job. Once we leave, the enemy re-surfaces and kills off anyone who cooperated with us, leaving the enemy in a stronger position than ever. I'm waiting for someone to start issuing daily body counts.

Kind of what we did in Iraq before the surge.
After a bit of that, the locals won't help us because they know we won't protect them from retaliation.
It took the surge where we'd clean out a city and stay before things got better.

re: #187 Occasional Reader

I once tried to pick up a Swiss Miss, but she was truly on her Swiss Guard.

She's heard your yodel before, no doubt

There is no alp for a Swiss pun thread. These are some of Davos ones seen.

A false accusation should carry as a minimum penalty the same punishment as the accused would have received if convicted. If you accuse someone of murder falsely, you should be sentenced according to the guidelines for murder. False rape accusation, do the time for rape ect.

Back to the real world, does anyone know how difficult it would be to sue for damages based on a false accusation, after the authorities fail to prosecute a false accuser?

re: #209 Desert Dog

She's heard your yodel before, no doubt

Actually, OR was heard to cry out 'alp 'alp!

re: #208 Kosh's Shadow

Kind of what we did in Iraq before the surge.
After a bit of that, the locals won't help us because they know we won't protect them from retaliation.
It took the surge where we'd clean out a city and stay before things got better.

As I understand the situation, there are not enough Afghan army troops to do the holding part of the job. All that makes me wonder why we're even trying this approach.

re: #159 doppelganglander

Hey, btw cool nic. I once got killed by a doppelganger in a D&D game. You seem much nicer than that. :)

re: #210 jaunte

There is no alp for a Swiss pun thread. These are some of Davos ones seen.

We could always turn it into a gun thread, if you begin to Sauer on the Swiss puns.

re: #206 Occasional Reader

I had been hoping for a more "erotic literature" type of ending: "Their arms and legs began to Interlocken passion..."

How high are your peaks of passion?

re: #210 jaunte

There is no alp for a Swiss pun thread. These are some of Davos ones seen.

This peaks my interests. Boob thread and Swiss Alps thread in one.

re: #207 debutaunt

Yeah, he's ummm, how do ya say gay in pig latin?

I knew that. If I didn't, the pastel elephant avatar is a pretty big clue. ;)

re: #201 Son of the Black Dog

Yup, that's the strategic paradox. If they clear & stay, Helmand province will soak up all 4000 Marines and more for the next 5 years. If they clear and leave, the Taliban will melt away and return.

Into Taliban country

re: #206 Occasional Reader

I had been hoping for a more "erotic literature" type of ending: "Their arms and legs began to Interlocken passion..."

These threads tend more toward the porn than the erotic literature. "Having finished her nights work . . .Lausaane walked out of the room."

re: #214 WinterCat

Hey, btw cool nic. I once got killed by a doppelganger in a D&D game. You seem much nicer than that. :)

Thank you. I haven't killed anyone...here.

re: #166 doppelganglander

I hadn't thought about that. Throbert, explain yourself, young man. In polite terms, if possible.

Actually, "frottage" IS the polite term. (It can even have a perfectly G-rated meaning -- in art contexts, it's a fancy Frawnch name for the practice of using pencils, wax crayons, etc. to make rubbings from a textured surface, such as an engraved tombstone, tree bark, leaf veins, or whatever. But whether you use "frottage" in this sense or a naughtier one, it rhymes with "garage," not "cottage.")

re: #210 jaunte

There is no alp for a Swiss pun thread. These are some of Davos ones seen.

Thanks for Luzerning up the thread. Prevents me from going Lausanne.

re: #216 MandyManners

How high are your peaks of passion?

Sigh, at my age it doesn't Matterhorn, but thanks for asking.

re: #211 JustABill

Or another puzzler...How the F&*k was OJ found civilly liable
For the murders yet all his (fans) keep repeating "He was acquitted"?

re: #221 doppelganglander

Thank you. I haven't killed anyone...here.

Yet? ;)

re: #217 KenJen

This peaks my interests. Boob thread and Swiss Alps thread in one.

Not thread. Meant pun. I'm done. Gonna go lay in the sun. Later

re: #218 doppelganglander

I knew that. If I didn't, the pastel elephant avatar is a pretty big clue. ;)

I was hoping someone would say, omosexual-Hay. It's kind of like saying cantaloupe in pig latin - still obvious what the word is.

re: #205 KenJen

Yeah. Put your neck on the line.

What's the hook?

re: #214 WinterCat

Hey, btw cool nic. I once got killed by a doppelganger in a D&D game. You seem much nicer than that. :)

You ain't been killed 'til you've been killed by a Beholder.

re: #198 Occasional Reader

You've led an even cleaner life than I have, apparently. (I *can* figure out how to fill that one in.)

Well, now I must know. My nic is blue...

Let's see if I can live dirty vicariously. ;)

re: #225 reloadingisnotahobby

Or another puzzler...How the F&*k was OJ found civilly liable
For the murders yet all his (fans) keep repeating "He was acquitted"?

Well... he was acquitted; that statement is true.

Of course, those same people usually assume it means he was "proven innocent", which is most definitely NOT true.

re: #225 reloadingisnotahobby

Or another puzzler...How the F&*k was OJ found civilly liable
For the murders yet all his (fans) keep repeating "He was acquitted"?

He was acquitted of criminal charges in criminal court.

The civil liability came from a loss in a wrongful death suit in civil court.

re: #230 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You ain't been killed 'til you've been killed by a Beholder.

Happily, that never happened.

re: #230 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You ain't been killed 'til you've been killed by a Beholder.

Got ya beat. Mind Flayer.

re: #224 subsailor68

Sigh, at my age it doesn't Matterhorn, but thanks for asking.

Broke bank?

re: #225 reloadingisnotahobby

Or another puzzler...How the F&*k was OJ found civilly liable
For the murders yet all his (fans) keep repeating "He was acquitted"?

Civil court has a lower burden of proof.

re: #233 eschew_obfuscation

He was acquitted of criminal charges in criminal court.

The civil liability came from a loss in a wrongful death suit in civil court.

As long as he's in the slam.

re: #231 medaura18586

Well, now I must know. My nic is blue...

Let's see if I can live dirty vicariously. ;)

Er... Throbert? Care to explain?

(BTW, I meant no offense with my earlier remark about Albanian ganster pronunciation; it was a reference to the cheerfully silly movie Johnny Dangerously.)

re: #206 Occasional Reader

Schuss!

Hahnenkamm'in... /preparing for a whack from Mandy

re: #222 Throbert McGee

Actually, "frottage" IS the polite term. (It can even have a perfectly G-rated meaning -- in art contexts, it's a fancy Frawnch name for the practice of using pencils, wax crayons, etc. to make rubbings from a textured surface, such as an engraved tombstone, tree bark, leaf veins, or whatever. But whether you use "frottage" in this sense or a naughtier one, it rhymes with "garage," not "cottage.")

Oh, I know that word, but I've been mispronouncing it. Not that I use it all that frequently. I feel much more edjumakated now, thank you.

re: #239 Occasional Reader

ganster = gangster

re: #236 MandyManners

Broke bank?

Well, Eiger every time I think about it.

:-)

re: #235 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Got ya beat. Mind Flayer.

Oh, cool. Is this going to turn into a D&D thread? Excellent!

re: #244 WinterCat

Oh, cool. Is this going to turn into a D&D thread? Excellent!

Would trolls be welcome?

re: #242 Occasional Reader

ganster = gangster

I kinda like gunster.

re: #225 reloadingisnotahobby

Or another puzzler...How the F&*k was OJ found civilly liable
For the murders yet all his (fans) keep repeating "He was acquitted"?

On second thought...I'm not sure I know which case you're referring to.

The murder case that went on for years or the recent armed robbery case from Vegas?

re: #232 Occasional Reader

Well... he was acquitted; that statement is true.

Of course, those same people usually assume it means he was "proven innocent", which is most definitely NOT true.

Proven innocent? Hey, you're the law-talkin' guy.

re: #237 Creeping Eruption
Ah!Seems odd...
Thanks ,but I still now the BASTARD DID IT!

re: #162 Occasional Reader

The others being (IYHO)?

(An aside; I finally got around to seeing Red River and The Searchers within the last few months. I thought they were both kind of... weird.)

Not in any particular order;

Stagecoach (1939)
High Noon (1952)
Fort Apache (1948)
Gunfight at the O.K. Corral (1957)
A Fistful of Dollars (1964)
For A Few Dollars More (1966)
Once Upon A Time In The West (1969)
El Dorado (1967)
The Outlaw Josey Wales (1976)
Unforgiven (1992)

Others are good (Tombstone, the Good, The Bad, and the Ugly, Pale Rider, etc.) but these are my choices for the films that defined, or in some cases (Un Puglio di Dollari) redefined the genre.

cheers

eon

re: #247 eschew_obfuscation

On second thought...I'm not sure I know which case you're referring to.

The murder case that went on for years or the recent armed robbery case from Vegas?

The second case.

re: #244 WinterCat

Oh, cool. Is this going to turn into a D&D thread? Excellent!

Let your geek flag fly!

All these Swiss puns, you guys are asking for it...

re: #225 reloadingisnotahobby

Or another puzzler...How the F&*k was OJ found civilly liable
For the murders yet all his (fans) keep repeating "He was acquitted"?

Criminal court, murder charges, threshold for guilt is beyond reasonable doubt.
Civil court, where the suit was filed, it's preponderance of the evidence.

re: #250 eon

Rio Bravo

re: #250 eon

So is High Plains Drifter a ghost story, or not?

re: #249 reloadingisnotahobby

Ah!Seems odd...
Thanks ,but I still now the BASTARD DID IT!

Not according to a jury of his peers. The system may be somewhat broken, but its all we got.

re: #226 WinterCat

Yet? ;)

I like the verbal slice and dice. You can tell when I'm really, really angry because my sentences get very long and complex and I pull out all my SAT words.