Thursday Afternoon Open
It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry.
— Thomas Paine
It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry.
— Thomas Paine
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Czarny_Smok Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:22:15pm |
Newest Rassmuusen poll shows Deal Leaders popularity dropping - ain't it wonderful!
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:22:54pm |
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry."
Is this a thread about Nancy Pelosi?
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Czarny_Smok Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:23:25pm |
Crap, can't spell today, meant to say 'Dear' Leader... Oh well.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:23:44pm |
thus the pre chosen questions for a presser (with no rebuttal)
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Kragar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:23:54pm |
re: #1 albusteve
poof!...just like magic one appears
"Ah, but where did the lighter fluid come from?" - George Oscar Bluth
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:23:58pm |
re: #4 buzzsawmonkey
Not to rain on the parade, but he's still in office for more than three years. And he still has a compliasant Congress.
It's also called pissing in the punch?
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Kragar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:24:23pm |
re: #5 Czarny_Smok
Crap, can't spell today, meant to say 'Dear' Leader... Oh well.
Works either way really
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VegasRick Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:25:11pm |
re: #5 Czarny_Smok
Crap, can't spell today, meant to say 'Dear' Leader... Oh well.
That's okay, I always misspell it as well, I get the "D" and screw up the rest - Dumbfuck
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callahan23 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:25:38pm |
re: #5 Czarny_Smok
Crap, can't spell today, meant to say 'Dear' Leader... Oh well.
Your original sounded so Lil Kim-ish.
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:26:00pm |
re: #4 buzzsawmonkey
Not to rain on the parade, but he's still in office for more than three years. And he still has a compliasant Congress.
But the Congress can be changed - in 2010. Change we can Hope for.
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Czarny_Smok Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:26:03pm |
re: #4 buzzsawmonkey
Not to rain on the parade, but he's still in office for more than three years. And he still has a compliasant Congress.
True, but it appears that the great unwashed masses are stirring and they ain't happy - given the makeup of those masses, that complacent Congress will listen if in danger of loosing an election. Hey I have HOPE that we can all effect CHANGE - I'm sick of the socialization of America.
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yochanan Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:26:24pm |
re: #3 Nevergiveup
"It is error only, and not truth, that shrinks from inquiry."
Is this a thread about Nancy Pelosi?
you mean this nancy pelosi?
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:26:26pm |
re: #12 LGoPs
But the Congress can be changed - in 2010. Change we can Hope for.
Change before it's to late
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albusteve Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:27:51pm |
re: #7 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
"Ah, but where did the lighter fluid come from?" - George Oscar Bluth
from one of the Marx Brothers I think
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turn Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:28:15pm |
Paine knew all about the strategy O is using re: dropping any mention of jobs from the Energy Department project.
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:28:25pm |
Hmm...When I'm putting in an application for some of these railways, should I mention that some of my attributes include staying awake for my shift and not texting while operating a vehicle?
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:28:46pm |
re: #16 DEZes
*Walks in, plops down*
I did a nice 3 point landing myself. Hey {Dez}...'my evil twin'.
:)
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VegasRick Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:28:56pm |
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:29:17pm |
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yochanan Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:29:25pm |
or is it this Nancy
[Link: www2.webpages.uidaho.edu...]
?
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~Fianna Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:29:27pm |
re: #20 Fenway_Nation
Hmm...When I'm putting in an application for some of these railways, should I mention that some of my attributes include staying awake for my shift and not texting while operating a vehicle?
No. You'll get bounced for being unqualified.
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:30:12pm |
re: #4 buzzsawmonkey
Not to rain on the parade, but he's still in office for more than three years. And he still has a compliasant Congress.
I got four numbers for Congress:
2-0-1-0.
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opnion Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:30:21pm |
This has probably been discussed, but Hannity had on the Director of a new movie last night, "The Stoning of Soroya M."
it is an actual incident that happened in Iran a few years ago. A guy falsley accuses his wife of adultrey because he is tired of her.
Under Sharia she is stoned to death with her husband & sons participating.
Jim Cavezal plays the husband & it looks brutal.
Probably won't get shown on movie night at the White House.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:30:22pm |
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:30:58pm |
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yochanan Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:31:28pm |
re: #26 buzzsawmonkey
just don't do it into a glass of coors as it would improve the taste
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Syrah Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:31:33pm |
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callahan23 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:31:46pm |
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DEZes Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:31:55pm |
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:31:59pm |
re: #25 ~Fianna
You see? This is why I'm more interested in hiring on with one of the freight railways. When was the last time some coal or lumber videotaped somebody misbehavin'?
/
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turn Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:32:02pm |
re: #31 Honorary Yooper
Highland, Lowland, or Borderer?
yuck, scotch. Probably a good time for turn to get out of here. Later all, time to go walk the lab along the American.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:32:14pm |
re: #26 buzzsawmonkey
Hey, that's pure Scotch.
I'll have a Vodka Martini, dry, with ice and an olive
oh , and hold the ice
and the olive
and the vermouth
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Czarny_Smok Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:32:27pm |
re: #31 Honorary Yooper
Highland, Lowland, or Borderer?
By this time of the day, as long as it's single malt who cares! However I would gracefully accept a couple fingers of a nice Balvenie Port Wood Aged!
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Kragar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:32:41pm |
re: #28 opnion
This has probably been discussed, but Hannity had on the Director of a new movie last night, "The Stoning of Soroya M."
it is an actual incident that happened in Iran a few years ago. A guy falsley accuses his wife of adultrey because he is tired of her.
Under Sharia she is stoned to death with her husband & sons participating.
Jim Cavezal plays the husband & it looks brutal.
Probably won't get shown on movie night at the White House.
Jim Cavezal is an awesome actor. He was great in Count of Monte Cristo.
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Honorary Yooper Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:32:51pm |
re: #38 sattv4u2
I'll have a Vodka Martini, dry, with ice and an olive
oh , and hold the ice
and the olive
and the vermouth
Shaken, not stirred?
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:33:17pm |
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DEZes Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:33:18pm |
re: #34 callahan23
Hi, how's ya?
Chilling after running the gauntlet at the super market.
How ya doing buddy?
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yochanan Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:33:28pm |
well that reminds me of a joke
and englismman, and irishman and a scot
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Wendya Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:33:34pm |
re: #4 buzzsawmonkey
Not to rain on the parade, but he's still in office for more than three years. And he still has a compliasant Congress.
The closer we come to the mid terms, the less amiable they will become.
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:33:38pm |
re: #23 Nevergiveup
I don't know. What would Lenin do?
What do the Beatles have to do with this?
/ ;>)
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~Fianna Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:33:59pm |
re: #36 Fenway_Nation
You see? This is why I'm more interested in hiring on with one of the freight railways. When was the last time some coal or lumber videotaped somebody misbehavin'?
/
They're working on the AI for that.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:34:02pm |
re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Jim Cavezal is an awesome actor. He was great in Count of Monte Cristo.
I love his sandwiches!
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:34:19pm |
re: #38 sattv4u2
I'll have a Vodka Martini, dry, with ice and an olive
oh , and hold the ice
and the olive
and the vermouth
Dirty Martini's are the best...
Yum.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:34:23pm |
"these are times that try men's souls"
T Paine
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~Fianna Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:34:53pm |
Okays, off do do that thing they pay me to do for a bit.
Laters all. :)
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:34:58pm |
re: #50 buzzsawmonkey
I'll have "Reactions to Obama Speeches" for $500, Alex.
buzz ... What is ... eewww ...
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albusteve Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:35:03pm |
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callahan23 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:35:04pm |
re: #44 DEZes
Chilling after running the gauntlet at the super market.
How ya doing buddy?
Really swell, thanks. I am here today to have fun!
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Kragar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:36:01pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:36:32pm |
re: #50 buzzsawmonkey
I'll have "Reactions to Obama Speeches" for $500, Alex.
That depends on whether one is an Obamabot or not.
Obamabot: *SWOON*
Not: Ewww! *vomit*
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:36:52pm |
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yochanan Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:36:54pm |
the three sit at the bar and all order a drink and as the drinks are passed out a fly falls into each one,
the englishman sends his drink back, the irshman takes the fly out as says the boze will kill the germs and drinks it
the scot takes the fly out and grabs its wings and says 'spit it ou ya'wee b'astard'
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DEZes Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:37:04pm |
re: #56 callahan23
Really swell, thanks. I am here today to have fun!
Lets get this party started.
Cheers.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:37:04pm |
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:37:10pm |
By the way I've been a tad busy this week, but has anyone here discussed Obama's oldest daughter wearing 2 very prominent "Peace" shirts the other day in EUROPE?
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Kragar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:37:37pm |
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opnion Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:37:55pm |
re: #41 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Jim Cavezal is an awesome actor. He was great in Count of Monte Cristo.
Yeah he is good. The clip that I saw of this movie though looks really rough.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:37:57pm |
re: #45 yochanan
well that reminds me of a joke
and englismman, and irishman and a scot
Three guys walk into a bar, the 4th one ducks.
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Mithrax Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:38:00pm |
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:38:10pm |
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ArchangelMichael Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:38:13pm |
re: #57 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Every time we do, people end up dead.
I'm almost to the point of defining peace as: "The state of affairs when bad people are allowed to do bad things, unchallenged by the good."
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:38:14pm |
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:38:28pm |
re: #64 Nevergiveup
By the way I've been a tad busy this week, but has anyone here discussed Obama's oldest daughter wearing 2 very prominent "Peace" shirts the other day in EUROPE?
couple threads back a few of us discussed it briefly. Mainly that it's sad that it reflects her parent's beliefs and being so, we are all fucked.
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The Hoopster Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:39:04pm |
re: #58 albusteve
“My mind is my own church.”
T Paine
Well unless it's Sunday.. His mind would be empty and silent
/
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bloodstar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:39:04pm |
Some serious point counterpoint going on in Iran.
"Today they sounded very different..." Via reader Allie, Tehran Bureau has accounts from all over the city. Here's one: "All the friends I spoke to today have been relatively depressed for the past few days. But today they sounded very different. They said while the security forces were trying their best to separate the demonstrators, the city overall was alive and filled with peaceful protests. Their voice sounded excited, and much more confident and determined than in recent days."
from the NIAC:
EU putting entry visas for Iranian diplomats on hold – The Financial Times of Germany (German) reported today that none of the 27 members of the EU will approve entry visas for Iranian Diplomats. High-ranking diplomats from the Member States have agreed to extend the review time for processing visa applications by holders of diplomatic and service passports, according to a letter from Sweden. These countries are not allowed to make decisions on visa applications until further notice.
And Sullivan does a fantastic job of pulling various sources together.
Does anyone else know other good sources for the Iranian Protests/Revolution?
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albusteve Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:39:06pm |
“One good schoolmaster is of more use than a hundred priests”
T Paine
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midwestgak Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:39:20pm |
re: #50 buzzsawmonkey
I'll have "Reactions to Obama Speeches" for $500, Alex.
What is: A lot of people believe he has quit smoking?
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callahan23 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:39:22pm |
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:40:48pm |
re: #73 LGoPs
couple threads back a few of us discussed it briefly. Mainly that it's sad that it reflects her parent's beliefs and being so, we are all fucked.
I normally do NOT comment on the President's family, especially his kids, but if they are gonna shove her in front of the cameras and make a political statement, then all bets are off. Especially if and when they do it over seas.
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:40:54pm |
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DEZes Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:41:59pm |
re: #72 FurryOldGuyJeans
Party? Where's the booze and the food?
Booze is in Buzz's punch bowl, ANnd as soon as Mandy kills the pig, dresses it and cooks it in the pit, we eat.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:42:33pm |
re: #75 bloodstar
Some serious point counterpoint going on in Iran.
And Sullivan does a fantastic job of pulling various sources together.
Does anyone else know other good sources for the Iranian Protests/Revolution?
Head for Teheran, real good source. :)
Some information...
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:42:45pm |
re: #55 albusteve
he'd give peace a chance
Didn't the Beatles do a song titled "Give a dangerously naive Bolshevik a chance"?...
/ *maybe not*
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:43:13pm |
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:43:35pm |
re: #80 Nevergiveup
I normally do NOT comment on the President's family, especially his kids, but if they are gonna shove her in front of the cameras and make a political statement, then all bets are off. Especially if and when they do it over seas.
Here, here.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:43:40pm |
It doesn't happen often, but here are two things I can appluad a Democrat about
Obama urges poorer nations to fight global warming
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
Pelosi shuts down resolution on Michael Jackson
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
By my calculations, hell is now freezing over!
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Mithrax Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:44:13pm |
re: #85 MandyManners
I about fell outta' my chair laughing at the video about that guy's pants.
I aim to please!
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:44:27pm |
re: #82 DEZes
Booze is in Buzz's punch bowl, ANnd as soon as Mandy kills the pig, dresses it and cooks it in the pit, we eat.
I've not seen them today.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:45:13pm |
re: #50 buzzsawmonkey
I'll have "Reactions to Obama Speeches" for $500, Alex.
What is "It's been 4 hours already and he's still talking?"
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opnion Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:45:18pm |
re: #80 Nevergiveup
I normally do NOT comment on the President's family, especially his kids, but if they are gonna shove her in front of the cameras and make a political statement, then all bets are off. Especially if and when they do it over seas.
I agree with that, but it is not the kids fault.
Imagine if a the youngest Palin girl was parading around in a Christian shirt.
Maureen Dowd & the other snarky elite would go nuclear.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:45:29pm |
automatically sunshine ... it is so hot outside .. she is backup mama ...
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:45:31pm |
re: #82 DEZes
Booze is in Buzz's punch bowl, ANnd as soon as Mandy kills the pig, dresses it and cooks it in the pit, we eat.
"Cry Hamhock and let slip the Hogs of War"
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DEZes Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:45:31pm |
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:45:43pm |
"Israel should know that it is not alone and look at all this calm. If I have fought so hard in the name of France to get people talking about Iran it's also a message to the Israelis that they are not alone," he said.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Yeah, right. Nations sleep soundly knowing FRANCE has their backs?
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:45:47pm |
re: #90 FurryOldGuyJeans
What is "It's been 4 hours already and he's still talking and STILL hasn't said anything substanitive?"
ftfy
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Russkilitlover Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:45:49pm |
re: #72 FurryOldGuyJeans
Party? Where's the booze and the food?
I've got pita chips and just made some guacamole, will that do?
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:46:11pm |
re: #87 sattv4u2
It doesn't happen often, but here are two things I can appluad a Democrat about
Obama urges poorer nations to fight global warming
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]Pelosi shuts down resolution on Michael Jackson
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]By my calculations, hell is now freezing over!
She did it for political reasons.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi shut the door Thursday to a resolution honoring Michael Jackson because debate on the symbolic measure could raise "contrary views" about the pop star's life.
Lawmakers are free to use House speeches "to express their sympathy or their praise any time that they wish," said Pelosi, D-Calif. "I don't think it's necessary for us to have a resolution."
A resolution sponsored by Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, cites some of the singer's charitable acts and proclaims him an American legend, musical icon and world humanitarian.
Even before Pelosi's comments, some Democrats said privately they did not support the resolution and a divisive debate would hurt House efforts to muster the votes for priorities such as health care and climate change.
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Kragar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:46:18pm |
re: #85 MandyManners
I about fell outta' my chair laughing at the video about that guy's pants.
We try and play their Like a Boss song at least once a day at work
Hit on Deborah, like a Boss.
Get rejected, like a Boss.
NSFW
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:46:42pm |
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:47:07pm |
re: #99 MandyManners
Don't care WHY she did it, THAT she did it is significant
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:47:29pm |
re: #91 opnion
I agree with that, but it is not the kids fault.
Imagine if a the youngest Palin girl was parading around in a Christian shirt.
Maureen Dowd & the other snarky elite would go nuclear.
Your right but to bad she is being brain washed. But I do blame her "parents".
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:47:52pm |
re: #87 sattv4u2
It doesn't happen often, but here are two things I can appluad a Democrat about
Obama urges poorer nations to fight global warming
[Link: news.yahoo.com...][snip]
By my calculations, hell is now freezing over!
The first article is actually funny. Obama is NOT getting the cooperation from other countries like he thought he would, so now he is basically trying to salvage his position, treading water, while the rest of the major nations is saying "fuck it."
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VegasRick Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:47:59pm |
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:48:07pm |
re: #94 DEZes
We better send out for pizza then. ;)
I'm taking The Kid out to dinner as soon as he decides to get dressed.
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bloodstar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:48:31pm |
re: #83 Walter L. Newton
Head for Teheran, real good source. :)
Some information...
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
*grins* I'd stick out like a sore thumb in Iran, trust me, if i thought I could make a difference by going there I would. I'm actually happy with CNN's coverage today, they're doing a ton better than MSNBC and Fox so far.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:48:33pm |
re: #102 sattv4u2
Don't care WHY she did it, THAT she did it is significant
debating that resolution would expose M Jackson for other than a pop icon
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Mithrax Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:48:35pm |
re: #101 MandyManners
Dead center for sure.
Perfect. My good deed for the day is done!
Now I can kick puppies and push old ladies down the stairs!
/sarc :)
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:48:38pm |
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:48:53pm |
re: #95 Nevergiveup
"Israel should know that it is not alone and look at all this calm. If I have fought so hard in the name of France to get people talking about Iran it's also a message to the Israelis that they are not alone," he said.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
Yeah, right. Nations sleep soundly knowing FRANCE has their backs?
Hey , I'd rather have Sarkozy backing me up than Obama!
That stated, I would prefer the US military over any 3 in the world combined, of course
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:49:02pm |
re: #100 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
We try and play their Like a Boss song at least once a day at work
Hit on Deborah, like a Boss.
Get rejected, like a Boss.NSFW
Who ARE these guys?
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:49:09pm |
re: #100 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I have been treated to so many performances of that and the boat song by my daughters, I think I will go nuclear if I have to hear either one again. They just do not strike me as funny.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:49:28pm |
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SteveC Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:49:31pm |
Florida Eliza Update:
Just got an email. The procedure has been pushed back to at least 7:00 PM Eastern (2300 GMT). Her mom thinks that there have been several emergency cases come in in the last couple of hours - there is a lot of activity in the ICU. Her mom asks for prayers not only for her daughter, but for the other people who are hurting.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:49:32pm |
re: #75 bloodstar
Nobody's coverage is better than Huffpo's. Sullivan has also done a great job on his Iran coverage but he mixes in so much other bullshit that I'll steal his links instead of linking directly to him. The guy's such a jerk.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:49:40pm |
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:49:46pm |
re: #106 MandyManners
I'm taking The Kid out to dinner as soon as he decides to get dressed.
It's summer, how much dressing it there?
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:49:58pm |
re: #91 opnion
I agree with that, but it is not the kids fault.
Imagine if a the youngest Palin girl was parading around in a Christian shirt.
Maureen Dowd & the other snarky elite would go nuclear.
Sad that that's the closest to nuclear power the Environazi's will let us come...
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The Hoopster Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:50:10pm |
re: #106 MandyManners
I'm taking The Kid out to dinner as soon as he decides to get dressed.
Good evening Mandy...Hope you are well today..
No McDonald's right? *wink*
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:50:36pm |
re: #108 albusteve
debating that resolution would expose M Jackson for other than a pop icon
and again, I don;'t care WHY , just that she DID. This type of thing is NOT the work of congress, unless it was some distinguished military or political leader, imho
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:50:42pm |
Keith Olbermann made that Arizona state senator (from yesterday's post - the '6,000 years old' lady) his "Worst Person in the World" last night ... and completely ripped off Phil Plait's point about uranium and carbon dating with no credit. What a scumbag.
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opnion Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:50:52pm |
re: #103 Nevergiveup
Your right but to bad she is being brain washed. But I do blame her "parents".
I blame he parents too. Heck I blame her parents for a lot of things, being bitter & racist ,after all of the breaks they caught for openers.
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:51:00pm |
re: #108 albusteve
debating that resolution would expose M Jackson for other than a pop icon
albusteve ... What! ... you mean he is not ... oh, brother ...
/
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:51:22pm |
re: #115 SteveC
No problem, said one at 4 pm, will just say another at 7
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:51:47pm |
For USA Today to actually be reporting on this blatant political patronage scam is mind-boggling.
Billions in aid go to areas that backed Obama in '08
By Brad Heath, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Billions of dollars in federal aid delivered directly to the local level to help revive the economy have gone overwhelmingly to places that supported President Obama in last year's presidential election.
That aid — about $17 billion — is the first piece of the administration's massive stimulus package that can be tracked locally. Much of it has followed a well-worn path to places that regularly collect a bigger share of federal grants and contracts, guided by formulas that have been in place for decades and leave little room for manipulation.
"There's no politics at work when it comes to spending for the recovery," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs says.
Counties that supported Obama last year have reaped twice as much money per person from the administration's $787 billion economic stimulus package as those that voted for his Republican rival, Sen. John McCain, a USA TODAY analysis of government disclosure and accounting records shows. That money includes aid to repair military bases, improve public housing and help students pay for college.
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SteveC Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:52:36pm |
re: #123 Charles
Keith Olbermann made that Arizona state senator (from yesterday's post - the '6,000 years old' lady) his "Worst Person in the World" last night ... and completely ripped off Phil Plait's point about uranium and carbon dating with no credit. What a scumbag.
Careful. The International United Brotherhood of Scumbags is going to demand an apology.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:52:38pm |
re: #123 Charles
Keith Olbermann made that Arizona state senator (from yesterday's post - the '6,000 years old' lady) his "Worst Person in the World" last night ... and completely ripped off Phil Plait's point about uranium and carbon dating with no credit. What a scumbag.
I don't find it one bit surprising that Olbermann plagarizes so much or so easily.
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Kragar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:53:21pm |
re: #112 MandyManners
Who ARE these guys?
JOOOS!
/
They were writers for SNL and have done other comedy work over the years.
Lazy Sunday was one of their best ones.
[Link: www.nbc.com...]
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Russkilitlover Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:53:35pm |
re: #127 FurryOldGuyJeans
For USA Today to actually be reporting on this blatant political patronage scam is mind-boggling.
Billions in aid go to areas that backed Obama in '08
By Brad Heath, USA TODAY
I call Big Ass Bullshit on this whopper:
"There's no politics at work when it comes to spending for the recovery," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs says.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:53:36pm |
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:53:54pm |
re: #124 opnion
I blame he parents too. Heck I blame her parents for a lot of things, being bitter & racist ,after all of the breaks they caught for openers.
Well...I can understand Michelle's bitterness at the $300K job (that she never had to show up for). Any fool would know that anything less than $500K is a racist insult.
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callahan23 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:54:04pm |
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opnion Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:54:16pm |
re: #129 FurryOldGuyJeans
I don't find it one bit surprising that Olbermann plagarizes so much or so easily.
A mind is a terrible thing to have misplaced.
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:54:33pm |
re: #123 Charles
What a scumbag.
What has he been drinking that enables him to piss on Edward Murrow's grave for this many years?
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:54:34pm |
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JacksonTn Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:55:02pm |
Going to AT&T ... Reine talked me into the iPhone which is stupid for me since it will only be my "city" phone ... but I am gonna try it out ... now I can have a phone in each ear yeah! ... and the apps better be a cool as everyone says they are ...
Later ya'll ... and please drink beer for me ...
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albusteve Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:55:18pm |
re: #131 Russkilitlover
I call Big Ass Bullshit on this whopper:
"There's no politics at work when it comes to spending for the recovery," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs says.
2+2=5...simple
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midwestgak Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:55:36pm |
re: #72 FurryOldGuyJeans
Party? Where's the booze and the food?
My BQ grill is cooking Buffalo wings as we speak. Next to them are a few dozen rib eyes (the ones with the good marbling). Next to them are same-day-caught shrimp about to be doused with fresh lemon juice.
In the bin under the grill are many foil wrapped Idaho potatoes just about ready for sour cream, chives, bacon bits and lots of butter. Kosher salt in a bowl nearby, to be added to taste. Pepper too.
In the outdoor cooler are various brands of beer. Bass, Heineken, Miller, just to name a few. The vodka has been chilling in the freezer. To be applied to any drink desired. Fruit juices and ice abound. Hennessey, well that comes after dessert.
Desserts. Refreshing strawberry shortcake. Sixteen flavors of ice cream. Ki lime and apple pie. Oh ya, seven flavors of Eli's cheese cake.
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callahan23 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:56:13pm |
re: #130 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
They were writers for SNL and have done other comedy work over the years.
Lazy Sunday was one of their best ones.
[Link: www.nbc.com...]
I love that angry Natalie Portman vid. Should also please MM. ;-)
NSFW at all!
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albusteve Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:57:03pm |
re: #140 midwestgak
My BQ grill is cooking Buffalo wings as we speak. Next to them are a few dozen rib eyes (the ones with the good marbling). Next to them are same-day-caught shrimp about to be doused with fresh lemon juice.
In the bin under the grill are many foil wrapped Idaho potatoes just about ready for sour cream, chives, bacon bits and lots of butter. Kosher salt in a bowl nearby, to be added to taste. Pepper too.
In the outdoor cooler are various brands of beer. Bass, Heineken, Miller, just to name a few. The vodka has been chilling in the freezer. To be applied to any drink desired. Fruit juices and ice abound. Hennessey, well that comes after dessert.
Desserts. Refreshing strawberry shortcake. Sixteen flavors of ice cream. Ki lime and apple pie. Oh ya, seven flavors of Eli's cheese cake.
no Beef-O-Roni?...bummer
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:57:24pm |
Hand politicians basically a blank check, tell them to spend it as quickly as possible, and people wonder why stimulus funds are not going where intended?
Report: States aren't using stimulus funds as intended
By Matt Kelley, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — Under pressure to spend stimulus money quickly, many states are using the federal funds for short-term projects and to fill budget gaps rather than spending on long-term improvements, according to a report by congressional investigators.
The report, scheduled to be released Tuesday by the Government Accountability Office (GAO) at a House oversight hearing, also says many states aren't meeting some goals and requirements of the economic recovery program. Some states, for example, are not sending transportation funding to the most economically distressed areas, and they are using education funds to prevent layoffs rather than fund innovative new programs, the report says.
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:57:40pm |
re: #140 midwestgak
My BQ grill is cooking Buffalo wings as we speak. Next to them are a few dozen rib eyes (the ones with the good marbling). Next to them are same-day-caught shrimp about to be doused with fresh lemon juice.
In the bin under the grill are many foil wrapped Idaho potatoes just about ready for sour cream, chives, bacon bits and lots of butter. Kosher salt in a bowl nearby, to be added to taste. Pepper too.
In the outdoor cooler are various brands of beer. Bass, Heineken, Miller, just to name a few. The vodka has been chilling in the freezer. To be applied to any drink desired. Fruit juices and ice abound. Hennessey, well that comes after dessert.
Desserts. Refreshing strawberry shortcake. Sixteen flavors of ice cream. Ki lime and apple pie. Oh ya, seven flavors of Eli's cheese cake.
You bastard. All I have is gruel to eat here...
/ ;.)
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:57:56pm |
re: #140 midwestgak
I'll be right over, I just need to put on shoes.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:57:58pm |
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:58:24pm |
re: #127 FurryOldGuyJeans
For USA Today to actually be reporting on this blatant political patronage scam is mind-boggling.
Billions in aid go to areas that backed Obama in '08
By Brad Heath, USA TODAY
That aid — about $17 billion — is the first piece of the administration's massive stimulus package that can be tracked locally. Much of it has followed a well-worn path to places that regularly collect a bigger share of federal grants and contracts, guided by formulas that have been in place for decades and leave little room for manipulation.
This is what I have been pointing out for months. Most of the money is going to existing contracts, to the same people who have been getting federal money all the long, whether it was Democratic money or Republican money (really, our money).
It's really not going to NEW jobs, it's simply supporting all the people that have always been heavily in debt to federal funds.
This is the answer folks, if you are looking for NEW jobs, you won't find them, all the old cronies are getting most of the money.
Any NEW jobs are small demonstration projects used for public relations and media consumption.
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:58:34pm |
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:59:04pm |
re: #149 sattv4u2
no clothes , just shoes!
I'm already dressed! Unless a t-shirt and jeans isn't good enough for you fancy types.
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Wendya Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:59:12pm |
re: #80 Nevergiveup
Especially if and when they do it over seas.
And who is surprised by the lack of judgment shown by her parents?
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Kragar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:59:22pm |
re: #141 callahan23
They were writers for SNL and have done other comedy work over the years.
Lazy Sunday was one of their best ones.
[Link: www.nbc.com...]
I love that angry Natalie Portman vid. Should also please MM. ;-)
NSFW at all!
Ah, the joys of secured office and an internet connection which bypasses the proxy server.
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Russkilitlover Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:59:33pm |
re: #140 midwestgak
In the bin under the grill are many foil wrapped Idaho potatoes just about ready for sour cream, chives, bacon bits...
Ah, but did you make the bacon bits or are they the teeth cracking store bought kind?
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sattv4u2 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:59:51pm |
re: #150 doppelganglander
I'm already dressed! Unless a t-shirt and jeans isn't good enough for you fancy types.
depends
a wet t shirt and daisy dukes !
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yochanan Thu, Jul 9, 2009 2:59:57pm |
re: #82 DEZes
some how i think we will have space cowboy on the spit before we have a porker
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opnion Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:00:35pm |
re: #151 Wendya
And who is surprised by the lack of judgment shown by her parents?
The Obama have exhibited tremendous lack of judgement, they married each other.
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callahan23 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:00:47pm |
re: #140 midwestgak
My BQ grill is cooking Buffalo wings as we speak. Next to them are a few dozen rib eyes (the ones with the good marbling). Next to them are same-day-caught shrimp about to be doused with fresh lemon juice.
In the bin under the grill are many foil wrapped Idaho potatoes just about ready for sour cream, chives, bacon bits and lots of butter. Kosher salt in a bowl nearby, to be added to taste. Pepper too.
In the outdoor cooler are various brands of beer. Bass, Heineken, Miller, just to name a few. The vodka has been chilling in the freezer. To be applied to any drink desired. Fruit juices and ice abound. Hennessey, well that comes after dessert.
Desserts. Refreshing strawberry shortcake. Sixteen flavors of ice cream. Ki lime and apple pie. Oh ya, seven flavors of Eli's cheese cake.
Oh gosh. My stomach just had an instant err ... reaction.
;-)
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Russkilitlover Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:00:53pm |
re: #144 FurryOldGuyJeans
Hand politicians basically a blank check, tell them to spend it as quickly as possible, and people wonder why stimulus funds are not going where intended?
Report: States aren't using stimulus funds as intended
By Matt Kelley, USA TODAY
You can file this under "Duh"
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wrenchwench Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:01:46pm |
Last week I got a call from a young man who was a customer of mine from the time he was about 9 years old (he's now about 20.) He moved to the big city and opened his own bike shop. He called to thank me for being his inspiration.
:)
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SteveC Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:01:52pm |
Can't fight H1N1... we're broke!
NHS hospitals could be forced to slash services because the Treasury is refusing to fund the costs of the swine flu pandemic, officials warned tonight.
The damaging internal wrangle could lead to thousands of operations being delayed or cancelled, wards being shut or nurses losing their jobs.
The Department of Health has spent at least £2billion on preparations for a mass swine flu outbreak on British soil.
Huge orders have been placed for 90 million doses of vaccine, enough flu-busting drugs such as Tamiflu for 80 per cent of the population, and millions of facemasks for doctors and nurses.
Officials were counting on the Treasury to pay for these emergency costs out of a crisis budget.
But, with public services squeezed as a result of the recession, the Daily Mail has learned that Chancellor Alistair Darling's department has told health secretary Andy Burnham that there is no spare cash.
They say the £2 billion will have to be found from existing health budgets.
It means hospitals could have to make huge savings, such as rationing operations and drugs, and reducing the number of nurses and midwives they employ.
***
Can't fund the healthcare system? Rationing operations and drugs? But Mr. President, you promised -
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albusteve Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:02:03pm |
re: #155 yochanan
some how i think we will have space cowboy on the spit before we have a porker
Space Cowboy?...sure
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callahan23 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:02:19pm |
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The Hoopster Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:02:34pm |
re: #140 midwestgak
My BQ grill is cooking Buffalo wings as we speak. Next to them are a few dozen rib eyes (the ones with the good marbling). Next to them are same-day-caught shrimp about to be doused with fresh lemon juice.
In the bin under the grill are many foil wrapped Idaho potatoes just about ready for sour cream, chives, bacon bits and lots of butter. Kosher salt in a bowl nearby, to be added to taste. Pepper too.
In the outdoor cooler are various brands of beer. Bass, Heineken, Miller, just to name a few. The vodka has been chilling in the freezer. To be applied to any drink desired. Fruit juices and ice abound. Hennessey, well that comes after dessert.
Desserts. Refreshing strawberry shortcake. Sixteen flavors of ice cream. Ki lime and apple pie. Oh ya, seven flavors of Eli's cheese cake.
A thursday feast! Be right over..I'll make the Salads
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:03:04pm |
The Dems in 2006 campaigned on a promise to end pork barreling, so why haven't they stopped doing it in 2009?
In health bill, billions for parks, paths
Supporters cite prevention, but add-ons’ critics see pork
By Michael Kranish
Globe Staff / July 9, 2009
WASHINGTON - Sweeping healthcare legislation working its way through Congress is more than an effort to provide insurance to millions of Americans without coverage. Tucked within is a provision that could provide billions of dollars for walking paths, streetlights, jungle gyms, and even farmers’ markets.
The add-ons - characterized as part of a broad effort to improve the nation’s health “infrastructure’’ - appear in House and Senate versions of the bill.
Critics argue the provision is a thinly disguised effort to insert pork-barrel spending into a bill that has been widely portrayed to the public as dealing with expanding health coverage and cutting medical costs. A leading critic, Senator Mike Enzi, a Wyoming Republican, ridicules the local projects, asking: “How can Democrats justify the wasteful spending in this bill?’’
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doppelganglander Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:03:08pm |
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albusteve Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:03:36pm |
re: #160 buzzsawmonkey
most excellent...better than the original
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Russkilitlover Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:04:34pm |
re: #166 FurryOldGuyJeans
The Dems in 2006 campaigned on a promise to end pork barreling, so why haven't they stopped doing it in 2009?
In health bill, billions for parks, paths
Supporters cite prevention, but add-ons’ critics see pork
By Michael Kranish
Globe Staff / July 9, 2009
You are seriously harshing my mellow.
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albusteve Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:05:10pm |
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pingjockey Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:05:46pm |
Heh, the tally ban have a book out, and they don't like those darned ol' predator drones.
Predator drones and Hellfire missles...when you care enough to send the very best.
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wrenchwench Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:06:01pm |
re: #165 HoosierHoops
A thursday feast! Be right over..I'll make the Salads
You're so nice. You're the only one who offered to help.
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The Hoopster Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:07:37pm |
re: #173 wrenchwench
You're so nice. You're the only one who offered to help.
I make a mean salad...:)
Thanks Wrench!
How are you today?
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Gus Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:07:40pm |
re: #166 FurryOldGuyJeans
The Dems in 2006 campaigned on a promise to end pork barreling, so why haven't they stopped doing it in 2009?
In health bill, billions for parks, paths
Supporters cite prevention, but add-ons’ critics see pork
By Michael Kranish
Globe Staff / July 9, 2009
What a joke. Seems as though it's never going to end with these Democrats. Billions for parks under the guise of prevention. What next? Sidewalks as part of health prevention spending? Can't people do anything anymore without having the Federal government do it for them? Did some of these folks figure out that you can ride your bicycle on asphalt or concrete roads?
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midwestgak Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:07:45pm |
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Kragar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:08:30pm |
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:08:33pm |
re: #166 FurryOldGuyJeans
The Dems in 2006 campaigned on a promise to end pork barreling, so why haven't they stopped doing it in 2009?
In health bill, billions for parks, paths
Supporters cite prevention, but add-ons’ critics see pork
By Michael Kranish
Globe Staff / July 9, 2009WASHINGTON - Sweeping healthcare legislation working its way through Congress is more than an effort to provide insurance to millions of Americans without coverage. Tucked within is a provision that could provide billions of dollars for walking paths, streetlights, jungle gyms, and even farmers’ markets.
The add-ons - characterized as part of a broad effort to improve the nation’s health “infrastructure’’ - appear in House and Senate versions of the bill.
Critics argue the provision is a thinly disguised effort to insert pork-barrel spending into a bill that has been widely portrayed to the public as dealing with expanding health coverage and cutting medical costs. A leading critic, Senator Mike Enzi, a Wyoming Republican, ridicules the local projects, asking: “How can Democrats justify the wasteful spending in this bill?’’
This is a naked all out assault on the Treasury and on each and everyone of our pockets. This is Obama's 'Spreading the Wealth' with a vengeance.
It has nothing at all to do with helping the economy. A hostile power could not be doing more damage to us.
I feel like we are under enemy occupation.
Fuck.
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midwestgak Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:09:00pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:09:23pm |
re: #169 Russkilitlover
You are seriously harshing my mellow.
Would this help? Congress wants to control things even more down to what kids can or can't eat, screw what parents think.
USDA to oversee school snack food: Senate ag chair
Tue Jul 7, 2009 2:30pm EDT
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. Agriculture Department would be given the power to regulate all food sold in schools -- including vending machine snacks -- when Congress renews child nutrition programs, the chairman of the Senate Agriculture Committee said on Tuesday.
Chairman Tom Harkin said he hopes the committee will start work on legislation to reauthorize school lunch programs in October or November, with a goal to conclude the work by the end of the year.
"I can tell you it won't be this month," Harkin told reporters who asked when work would begin. He said precedence must go, for now, to his work on health care reform and on drafting the annual federal spending bills.
Agriculture Committee work on child nutrition will begin with a draft that gives the USDA the authority to oversee all food in schools, so nutrition programs are not "undermined" by junk food in vending machines, Harkin said at a confirmation hearing for the head of the USDA's nutrition programs.
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:09:58pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:10:53pm |
re: #174 HoosierHoops
I make a mean salad...:)
Thanks Wrench!
How are you today?
I'm well, thank you. Been up and down today, but I'm up now, so I should get back to work!
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capitalist piglet Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:11:11pm |
re: #178 LGoPs
This is a naked all out assault on the Treasury and on each and everyone of our pockets. This is Obama's 'Spreading the Wealth' with a vengeance.
It has nothing at all to do with helping the economy. A hostile power could not be doing more damage to us.
I feel like we are under enemy occupation.
Fuck.
The hippies bought business suits, and they're in charge.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:11:41pm |
re: #178 LGoPs
This is a naked all out assault on the Treasury and on each and everyone of our pockets. This is Obama's 'Spreading the Wealth' with a vengeance.
It has nothing at all to do with helping the economy. A hostile power could not be doing more damage to us.
I feel like we are under enemy occupation.
Fuck.
Land Whale Kennedy's remarks really show the hypocrisy:
But advocates, including Senator Edward M. Kennedy of Massachusetts, defend the proposed spending as a necessary way to promote healthier lives and, in the long run, cut medical costs. “These are not public works grants; they are community transformation grants,’’ said Anthony Coley, a spokesman for Kennedy, chairman of the Senate health committee whose healthcare bill includes the projects.
That bloated tub of lard knows nothing about living healthy.
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Russkilitlover Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:11:56pm |
re: #183 buzzsawmonkey
Toasted harshmellows for everyone!
And then there's Buzz, who can always make me burst out laughing :D
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Ms. MacIceweasel Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:12:02pm |
re: #116 Killgore Trout
Nobody's coverage is better than Huffpo's. Sullivan has also done a great job on his Iran coverage but he mixes in so much other bullshit that I'll steal his links instead of linking directly to him. The guy's such a jerk.
Agreed. NIAC is great though also.
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jvic Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:12:08pm |
re: #172 pingjockey
...when you care enough to send the very best.
Heh. I heard that joke 25+ years ago wrt penetrating Moscow's ABM defense. I bet it's even older than that.
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debutaunt Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:12:24pm |
re: #140 midwestgak
My BQ grill is cooking Buffalo wings as we speak. Next to them are a few dozen rib eyes (the ones with the good marbling). Next to them are same-day-caught shrimp about to be doused with fresh lemon juice.
In the bin under the grill are many foil wrapped Idaho potatoes just about ready for sour cream, chives, bacon bits and lots of butter. Kosher salt in a bowl nearby, to be added to taste. Pepper too.
In the outdoor cooler are various brands of beer. Bass, Heineken, Miller, just to name a few. The vodka has been chilling in the freezer. To be applied to any drink desired. Fruit juices and ice abound. Hennessey, well that comes after dessert.
Desserts. Refreshing strawberry shortcake. Sixteen flavors of ice cream. Ki lime and apple pie. Oh ya, seven flavors of Eli's cheese cake.
NO salad? Are you kidding? - hahahahahahahahhahahahaaa
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Gus Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:12:33pm |
Another excellent op-ed piece from the Wall Street Journal.
Obama Can't Be Trusted With Numbers
So why should we trust him with health care?
By KARL ROVE
In February, President Barack Obama signed a $787 billion stimulus bill while making lavish promises about the results. He pledged that "a new wave of innovation, activity and construction will be unleashed all across America." He also said the stimulus would "save or create up to four million jobs." Vice President Joe Biden said the massive federal spending plan would "drop-kick" the economy out of the recession.
But the unemployment rate today is 9.5% -- nearly 20% higher than the Obama White House said it would be with the stimulus in place. Keith Hennessey, who worked at the Bush White House on economic policy, has noted that unemployment is now higher than the administration said it would be if nothing was done to revive the economy. There are 2.6 million fewer Americans working than Mr. Obama promised...
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midwestgak Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:12:33pm |
re: #150 doppelganglander
I'm already dressed! Unless a t-shirt and jeans isn't good enough for you fancy types.
Come as you are. Bibs will be provided. And napkins even. But if you prefer, your short sleeve will do.
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Russkilitlover Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:12:36pm |
re: #184 wrenchwench
I'm well, thank you. Been up and down today, but I'm up now, so I should get back to work!
Mind those steaks, missy. I like mine med. rare!
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opnion Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:12:51pm |
re: #178 LGoPs
This is a naked all out assault on the Treasury and on each and everyone of our pockets. This is Obama's 'Spreading the Wealth' with a vengeance.
It has nothing at all to do with helping the economy. A hostile power could not be doing more damage to us.
I feel like we are under enemy occupation.
Fuck.
It seems very obvious that this raid on the treasury is an attempt to drain it. Why another stimulus when the first failed?
I think that he believed all of the Socialist, Utopian dogma that he learned in college & now wants to create the conditions for that model.
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Gus Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:13:27pm |
re: #181 FurryOldGuyJeans
Tom Harkin -- the imaginary fighter pilot.
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:13:46pm |
re: #185 capitalist piglet
The hippies bought business suits, and they're in charge.
You're right about that. The one consolation I have is that they were pussies back then and they're still pussies.
They need their asses kicked.
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Mithrax Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:13:59pm |
Hope to open a Banana, the monkey way!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:14:47pm |
re: #185 capitalist piglet
The hippies bought business suits, and they're in charge.
The Anti-Establishment people are now the Establishment, and still are trying to create anarchy.
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RunningBare Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:15:30pm |
re: #185 capitalist piglet
The hippies bought business suits, and they're in charge.
Yup, but underneath it all, they are still the same leftist puppets they've always been. Instead of "sticking it to The Man", they've become "The Man" and are out to stick it to US. Grrr...
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:15:30pm |
re: #195 Gus 802
Tom Harkin -- the imaginary fighter pilot.
I thought the name sounded somewhat familiar. A pox on the bastard.
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Russkilitlover Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:15:41pm |
re: #191 Gus 802
Another excellent op-ed piece from the Wall Street Journal.
Obama Can't Be Trusted With Numbers
So why should we trust him with health care?
Or the economy. Or national security. Or our freedoms and values...
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SixDegrees Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:15:43pm |
re: #127 FurryOldGuyJeans
For USA Today to actually be reporting on this blatant political patronage scam is mind-boggling.
Billions in aid go to areas that backed Obama in '08
By Brad Heath, USA TODAY
Probably not patronage, and more a result of more money flowing to urban areas than otherwise. As the article states,
Much of it has followed a well-worn path to places that regularly collect a bigger share of federal grants and contracts, guided by formulas that have been in place for decades and leave little room for manipulation.
It might be worth deeper analysis, but I don't think there's any quid pro quo here.
A more important observation is: one reason that only a tiny fraction of the stimulus bill has actually reached the economy - well under 10% of what was allocated six months ago - is that the money is being distributed in the most inefficient manner possible - through endless layers of Federal bureaucracy into another maze of state agencies and from there through a warren of smaller municipal authorities where finally a dollop of it falls into the hands of consumers. Rather than simply cutting withholding taxes and returning a significant lump of cash into employee's hands with every paycheck, a move that would take no more than a couple of weeks to implement. "Targeted" stimulus, though not likely distributed as political patronage payments, is being used to promote a distinct political agenda, rather than doing what it was supposed to do: stimulate the economy.
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opnion Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:16:29pm |
re: #198 FurryOldGuyJeans
The Anti-Establishment people are now the Establishment, and still are trying to create anarchy.
Well then dissent against them must be the highest form of patriotism
Speak truth to power!
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:16:38pm |
re: #198 FurryOldGuyJeans
The Anti-Establishment people are now the Establishment, and still are trying to create anarchy.
We need to rebel against their fucking establishment just like they did when they were snot nosed punks.
Lesson learned for the future - when the snot nosed punks rebel - kick the shit out of them. Or pay the price later.
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MandyManners Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:16:44pm |
re: #197 Mithrax
Hope to open a Banana, the monkey way!
I just whack off the stem with my butcher knife.
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midwestgak Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:17:06pm |
re: #153 Russkilitlover
Ah, but did you make the bacon bits or are they the teeth cracking store bought kind?
Only the best for lizards. Bacon pan fried until crispy, but not burnt. Delicious bacon bits, home fried with tender care and attention. The only goal: Their scrumptious goodness.
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Nevergiveup Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:17:09pm |
GM Expected to Emerge from Bankruptcy by Friday
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Yawn. Wake me when they re-enter bankruptcy?
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Kragar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:17:27pm |
re: #205 MandyManners
I just whack off the stem with my butcher knife.
That sounds uncomfortable when you put it like that.
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Gus Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:17:49pm |
re: #200 FurryOldGuyJeans
I thought the name sounded somewhat familiar. A pox on the bastard.
Yep, that's him.
From Wiki:
Vietnam combat missions controversy
While running for his Senate seat in 1984, and again while running for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1992, Harkin has faced criticism for claiming that he had flown combat missions over North Vietnam. In a 1979 round table discussion with other Congressional military veterans, Harkin said of his service as a Navy pilot: "One year was in Vietnam. I was flying F-4s and F-8s on combat air patrols and photo-reconnaissance support missions". These comments were later published in a 1981 book by David Broder. After subsequent inquiries by Barry Goldwater and The Wall Street Journal, Harkin clarified that that he had been stationed in Japan and sometimes flew recently repaired aircraft on test missions over Vietnam. His service flying F-4s and F-8s was later, while he was stationed in Cuba.
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Mithrax Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:18:03pm |
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callahan23 Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:18:15pm |
re: #205 MandyManners
I just whack off the stem with my butcher knife.
Brute force. Another way of achieving ones goals.
;-)
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Kragar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:18:39pm |
re: #198 FurryOldGuyJeans
The Anti-Establishment people are now the Establishment, and still are trying to create anarchy.
Its funny that the people who for decades have preached "Question Authority" suddenly want everyone to fall in line with their plans.
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RunningBare Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:18:48pm |
re: #205 MandyManners
I just whack off the stem with my butcher knife.
That's just wrong, no matter how you cut it, but I bet you do a bris business.
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Gus Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:19:06pm |
re: #201 Russkilitlover
Or the economy. Or national security. Or our freedoms and values...
The list is endless. It would probably take a reading of at least 10 working days at 24 hours per day.
/More or less.
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Truck Monkey Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:19:18pm |
re: #204 LGoPs
We need to rebel against their fucking establishment just like they did when they were snot nosed punks.
Lesson learned for the future - when the snot nosed punks rebel - kick the shit out of them. Or pay the price later.
Richard Daley at least got that right.
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Kragar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:19:32pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:19:36pm |
re: #213 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Its funny that the people who for decades have preached "Question Authority" suddenly want everyone to fall in line with their plans.
And it was less than 6 months ago when Dissent was still the highest form of Patriotism. A pox on them all.
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:19:43pm |
re: #213 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Its funny that the people who for decades have preached "Question Authority" suddenly want everyone to fall in line with their plans.
All the more reaon to get in their goddammed faces.
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Truck Monkey Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:19:56pm |
re: #205 MandyManners
I just whack off the stem with my butcher knife.
Is that what you kids call it now a days.
/
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:20:41pm |
re: #217 Truck Monkey
Richard Daley at least got that right.
Yeah, but everybody else lost their balls. And we're paying the price for it today.
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Gus Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:20:44pm |
re: #213 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Its funny that the people who for decades have preached "Question Authority" suddenly want everyone to fall in line with their plans.
Exactly. That's usually the first clue that something's wrong when one hangs around liberals. They're the largest organized group of busy bodies on the planet.
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Fenway_Nation Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:21:50pm |
re: #216 Gus 802
re: #201 Russkilitlover
The list is endless. It would probably take a reading of at least 10 working days at 24 hours per day./More or less.
Do we have to read the whole thing? It's not like the house or senate would pass some sort of sweeping bill without reading the whole thing, y'know...
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midwestgak Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:21:50pm |
re: #182 LGoPs
My deepest apologies, you...heck. I can't say it.
:)
I'm keeping a plateful warm for you.
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Gus Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:23:13pm |
re: #225 Fenway_Nation
Do we have to read the whole thing? It's not like the house or senate would pass some sort of sweeping bill without reading the whole thing, y'know...
/Rimshot
Remember Obama's laundry list during the campaign? Damn the thing was long. They just copied and pasted it over to his official site. I think some of it is over at some site called White House dot gov. (/)
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:23:42pm |
re: #226 midwestgak
I'm keeping a plateful warm for you.
Thanks. It may be a while. I'm one of the last conservatives in Kalifornia and I'm manning the ramparts right now...
:)
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Kragar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:24:26pm |
re: #229 LGoPs
Thanks. It may be a while. I'm one of the last conservatives in Kalifornia and I'm manning the ramparts right now...
:)
I'm tunneling out with a spoon myself
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pingjockey Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:24:28pm |
Go away for a minute and that goddamn oaf in the WH has apologized for global warming, Fucking numbnuts.
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Kragar Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:25:05pm |
re: #231 pingjockey
Go away for a minute and that goddamn oaf in the WH has apologized for global warming, Fucking numbnuts.
Well, he does spew enough hot air.
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pingjockey Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:25:37pm |
OOH, Creation thread, let me take another percocet and I'll be all warmed up for whack jobs!
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Gus Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:25:54pm |
re: #230 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I'm tunneling out with a spoon myself
Not before you fill out this Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) and contact the California Spoon Excavation and Gender Regulatory Agency (CSEGR) first!
//
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midwestgak Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:26:15pm |
re: #190 debutaunt
NO salad? Are you kidding? - hahahahahahahahhahahahaaa
Hoosier is bring one. Don't know if it's going to be avacado salad, tuna salad, "house" salad or his own creation. But, he's bringing one.
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IslandLibertarian Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:26:38pm |
re: #156 opnion
The Obama have exhibited tremendous lack of judgement, they married each other.
Michelle knew exactly what she was doing.
Echos of Hillary...wonder if the outcome will be the same...POTUS goal usurped by inexperienced upstart.
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yochanan Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:26:43pm |
i think i will stay right here stays far away from creationism threads
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pingjockey Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:26:51pm |
re: #232 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Yah. There is that. Him and the swimmer, blinky, and dirty harry by themselves probably raise the temp in DC by a couple degrees with all their bloviating.
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DEZes Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:27:58pm |
re: #221 Mithrax
Drudge has changed his headline again :P
Michelle is gonna whoop some ass over that pic.
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Wendya Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:28:24pm |
re: #156 opnion
The Obama have exhibited tremendous lack of judgement, they married each other.
At least they prevented two additional people from living a life of misery.
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yochanan Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:29:17pm |
re: #240 DEZes
first time i saw a normal reaction from the zero
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debutaunt Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:29:19pm |
re: #236 midwestgak
Hoosier is bring one. Don't know if it's going to be avacado salad, tuna salad, "house" salad or his own creation. But, he's bringing one.
I'll bring a nice spinach/mushroom salad with a dash of honey in the dressing on the side.
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Gus Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:29:45pm |
re: #240 DEZes
Michelle is gonna whoop some ass over that pic.
"President Obama, Hal Blinkentstop from the Associated Press. Where those panties or thongs that you were gazing at while at the G-8?"
//
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:30:02pm |
re: #202 SixDegrees
Yes, it' on the those easily debunked conspiracy theories that are so popular these days. 5 seconds on googling will turn up maps like this...
Stimulus Spending by State
I don't know why people keep falling for these stories. I guess ODS is probably the cause. They'll believe anything.
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pingjockey Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:30:59pm |
re: #245 Killgore Trout
A majority of our fellow citizens believed the smoke and mirrors to vote for the one.
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SixDegrees Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:30:59pm |
re: #178 LGoPs
This is a naked all out assault on the Treasury and on each and everyone of our pockets. This is Obama's 'Spreading the Wealth' with a vengeance.
It has nothing at all to do with helping the economy. A hostile power could not be doing more damage to us.
I feel like we are under enemy occupation.
Fuck.
To be fair, so far it's Congress' assault on the Treasury. It won't be Obama's assault until he signs their bill.
In recent years, this sort of porking and earmarking has become business as usual in Congress, with every single bill that passes through the chamber larded to the point where you could use it as the target in a greased pig contest. It isn't unique to the Obama Administration.
And earmarking can be stopped in a heartbeat. Earmarks are riders attached to, but not legally part of, actual bills. There has been a gentleman's agreement between Congress and the Executive branch for decades that these formerly small tokens tossed back to the constituents at home would be passed along with the bill when it was signed, despite not being written into it. This not only makes transparency impossible to maintain - it is nearly impossible to determine who is responsible for inserting earmarks into a bill after the fact - but has grown into a massive abuse of Congressional power.
And all that's needed to stop it is a President willing to yank those riders off the bill, toss them in the wastebasket and sign the bill itself, only approving what it actually contains and ending this nonsense once and for all. There is nothing Congress could do about it, other than go back to the old practice of actually including pork in the bill itself, and exposing themselves as the authors.
But so far, no President has seen fit to end this odious practice. Not Clinton - under whose Administration it grew enormously - not Bush, and certainly not Obama, although he paid lip service to ending earmarking during the campaign. Instead, with the Democrats in complete control of both Congress and the White House, look for earmarking and similar dodges to grow by orders of magnitude and be abused ever more blatantly than they have in the past.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:32:07pm |
re: #245 Killgore Trout
Interesting that Alaska seems to be the largest recipient of stimulus money.
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pingjockey Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:34:09pm |
re: #248 Killgore Trout
Really? I figured it'd be NY, CA, MI, or another populous state.
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IslandLibertarian Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:34:15pm |
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:35:40pm |
re: #249 pingjockey
That chart is Per Capita spending. I should have been more clear. In terms or raw data I'd guess, California, Texas and New York would be the largest total recipients.
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LGoPs Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:36:40pm |
re: #249 pingjockey
Really? I figured it'd be NY, CA, MI, or another populous state.
Can't you see? It's that fiendish Sarah Palin and her devilish ways conjuring up a witches brew...
MWAHAHAHAHAHA...
/
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Gus Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:37:56pm |
re: #252 LGoPs
Can't you see? It's that fiendish Sarah Palin and her devilish ways conjuring up a witches brew...
MWAHAHAHAHAHA...
/
Calls to Nor Laup's office have yet to be returned.
//
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:37:59pm |
re: #249 pingjockey
Looks like Texas is the winner: $5,139,542,000.
Ron Paul!
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wrenchwench Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:41:18pm |
re: #251 Killgore Trout
That chart is Per Capita spending. I should have been more clear. In terms or raw data I'd guess, California, Texas and New York would be the largest total recipients.
Figure it per acre and they'll be on the other end.
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pingjockey Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:42:00pm |
re: #251 Killgore Trout
I didn't look at the chart, you are doing fine!
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Gus Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:42:58pm |
re: #254 Killgore Trout
Looks like Texas is the winner: $5,139,542,000.
Ron Paul!
Try again.
California is first at 7,854,800,000.
Barbara Boxer!
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
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DEZes Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:45:46pm |
re: #260 Gus 802
Try again.
California is first at 7,854,800,000.
Barbara Boxer!
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
I smell hair burning.
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Gus Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:47:17pm |
re: #261 DEZes
I smell hair burning.
Billions and billions of hair follicles converging into a cosmic milieu or what some would simply call, a fireball!
//
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jvic Thu, Jul 9, 2009 3:53:14pm |
re: #188 iceweasel
Agreed. NIAC is great though also.
Thanks, I hadn't heard of NIAC.
As I said in that thread, I have concerns about the Islamic Society of North America. I have absolutely no problem with immigrants, from the Mideast or elsewhere, who make gestures like this. Good to have you among us, Iranian-Americans.
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Right Brain Thu, Jul 9, 2009 6:41:58pm |
I am near NYC and it is 57F outside! Its July and I cannot go outside without a jacket on. It was 61F at noon today. I am sure the global warming alarmist are dreaming up ways that this somehow supports their theory, but for the sensible person having a temperature averaging 20 degrees below normal is definitely an attention getter. Did the CO2 level mysteriously drop?
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