Overnight Open Thread
I haven’t a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices.
— Mark Twain
I haven’t a particle of confidence in a man who has no redeeming petty vices.
— Mark Twain
3 | The Other Les Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:11:30pm |
Anyone who claims to be perfect is either not paying attention or he's lying.
4 | tommygum Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:12:45pm |
"Rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated."
7 | Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:13:52pm |
Too d@mned tired to post.
Weet Dreams all!
8 | Fenway_Nation Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:14:52pm |
/Hmm....let me guess. 'We support the troops firefighters, as long as they're the right skin color or ethnicity' ?
9 | tommygum Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:15:04pm |
I wish I had Dave Davies '57 3 pickup Les paul...
*sigh*
10 | gmsc Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:16:21pm |
re: #3 The Other Les
Anyone who claims to be perfect is either not paying attention or he's lying.
These days, a smart man wouldn't admit to being perfect. Fortunately, I'm not.
;)
11 | gmsc Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:18:07pm |
OK, music video fans, we've already posted 80 of the top 100 music videos of the 20th century. Here's the recap, after which we'll get into #20 through #11 tonight!
100 - Green Day, Basket Case
99 - DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, Parents Just Don't Understand
98 - REM, Everybody Hurts
97 - Human League, Don't You Want Me
96 - The Replacements, Bastards of Young
95 - George Michael, Faith
94 - Wyclef Jean, Gone 'Til November
93 - U2, Sunday Bloody Sunday
92 - LL Cool J, Going Back to Cali
91 - Prince and the Revolution, 1999
90 - Lenny Kravitz, Are You Gonna Go My Way
89 - They Might Be Giants, Don't Let's Start
88 - Janet Jackson, Love Will Never Do (Without You)
87 - The Prodigy, Firestarter
86 - Billy Idol, Cradle of Love
85 - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, Don't Come Around Here No More
84 - Method Man & Mary J. Blige, 84-I'll Be There For You / You're All I Need To Get By
83 - Godley & Creme, Cry
82 - Def Leppard, Pour Some Sugar on Me
81 - Twisted Sister, We're Not Gonna Take It
80 - The Cure, Close to Me
79 - Fiona Apple, Criminal
78 - Adam Ant, Goody Two Shoes
77 - Radiohead, Fake Plastic Trees
76 - Devo, Whip It
75 - Public Enemy, Fight the Power
74 - C+C Music Factory, Gonna Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance Now)
73 - Band Aid, Do They Know It's Christmas
72 - The Chemical Brothers, Setting Sun
71 - M. C. Hammer, U Can't Touch This
70 - New Order, True Faith
69 - Smashing Pumpkins, 1979
68 - Duran Duran, Girls on Film
67 - Don Henley, Boys of Summer
66 - The Beastie Boys, Fight For Your Right
65 - Garbage, Stupid Girl
64 - Beck, Loser
63 - Tone-Loc, Wild Thing
62 - U2, Where The Streets Have No Name
61 - Van Halen, Right Now
60 - 'til tuesday, Voices Carry
59 - En Vogue, My Lovin' (You're Never Gonna Get It)
58 - David Bowie, Ashes To Ashes
57 - Björk, It's Oh So Quiet
56 - Metallica, Enter Sandman
55 - David Lee Roth, Just A Gigolo/I Ain't Got Nobody
54 - Marilyn Manson, The Beautiful People
53 - Madness, Our House
52 - Lauryn Hill, Everything Is Everything
51 - Golden Earring, Twilight Zone
50 - Madonna, Lucky Star
49 - Paula Abdul, Straight Up
48 - Aerosmith, Janie's Got A Gun
47 - Talking Heads, Once In A Lifetime
46 - Fatboy Slim, Praise You
45 - Guns N' Roses, November Rain
44 - Janet Jackson, Rhythm Nation
43 - ZZ Top, Gimme All Your Lovin'
42 - Alanis Morisette, Ironic
41 - Bon Jovi, Wanted Dead or Alive
40 - TLC, Waterfalls
39 - Cyndi Lauper, Girls Just Want To Have Fun
38 - Metallica, One
36 - Red Hot Chili Peppers, Give It Away
35 - Michael Jackson, Billie Jean
34 - Sinead O'Connor, Nothing Compares 2 U
33 - Van Halen, Jump
32 - Dr. Dre with Snoop Doggy Dogg, Nuthin' But A 'G' Thang
31 - The Eurythmics, Sweet Dreams (Are Made of This)
30 - Korn, Freak on a Leash
29 - Dire Straits, Money For Nothing
28 - Herbie Hancock, Rockit
27 - LL Cool J, Mama Said Knock You Out
26 - Guns N' Roses, Welcome To The Jungle
25 - The Cars, You Might Think
24 - Jamiroquai, Virtual Insanity
23 - The Notorious B.I.G. with Puff Daddy & Mase, Mo' Money Mo' Problems
22 - Blind Melon, No Rain
21 - INXS, Need You Tonight / Mediate
12 | CommonCents Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:20:19pm |
re: #6 Racer X
The RC SR-71 Video is freakin' awesome. But someone needs to tell the controller that he's grown out of those pants.
13 | gmsc Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:20:29pm |
Our first artist tonight had trouble getting a concept he liked for his music video.
Fortunately, someone popped in a tape of Eddie Murphy's "Coming To America" movie, and the concept was born!
#20 is Busta Rhymes with Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Can See:
14 | traderjoe9 Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:23:01pm |
Muahahahahahah! Jonathan Sanchez with a no-hitter! I witnessed it!
15 | zombie Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:23:07pm |
You know when you have a nice big sundae, and it's certainly delicious, but the one last thing that would make it perfect is a cherry on top?
Well, I just found my cherry -- the Maraschino Cherry of Hypocrisy:
John Holdren has FIVE children.
Eighteen months ago, I eventually asked Mr Bush's representative whether he ever lay awake at night worrying about what he would tell his grandchildren if he proved to be wrong. "I have no children," he shot back, "therefore I will have no grandchildren."Professor Holdren, I'm glad to reveal, has five.
Oh, sweet irony.
16 | zombie Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:23:37pm |
re: #14 traderjoe9
Muahahahahahah! Jonathan Sanchez with a no-hitter! I witnessed it!
Too bad about that one stupid error. Would have been a perfect game!
18 | Fenway_Nation Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:24:47pm |
re: #14 traderjoe9
Congrats! I was definitely nowhere near the ballpark when Lester or Buchholz threw their no-hitters.
19 | Racer X Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:25:26pm |
20 | gmsc Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:26:37pm |
#19, an affluent suburb, 3:30 in the afternoon, 64 degrees and cloudy.
It's Pearl Jam, singing about the time "Jeremy spoke in class today":
21 | Gus Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:28:35pm |
23 | gmsc Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:29:24pm |
#18 is unembeddable, which is unfortunate, due to all the sexy models in this video.
For his only other appearance after #95 on this list, George Michael returns with Freedom '90!
24 | Catttt Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:29:30pm |
Comments on youtube page of an "internet badass" (I think it's funny, so there).
NukaColaCupCake (6 days ago)
Hey you can talk shit over then internet you must be the coolest guy ever wow.1031nozome (6 days ago)
Can you speak Japanese?CanSBarakaldo (2 weeks ago)
sorry I am Spanish and do not deal very well English but alone you say the same thing and do not justify your response "peace"ChrisGugliuzza (2 weeks ago)
punk ass bitch. you must be an internet thug.sirmoalot (1 month ago)
MY! aren't you an internet bad ass?
25 | pat Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:29:44pm |
I rarely give a negative ding. I did on the last thread. I should be ashamed.
26 | zombie Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:29:49pm |
re: #11 gmsc
I have a question: Are these just your personal picks, or or they based on a published list?
27 | redc1c4 Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:30:18pm |
re: #1 Noam Sayin'
And that's why I drink.
Good night, all.
i drink so i'm dumb enough to fit in with everyone else........
28 | Catttt Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:30:26pm |
re: #25 pat
I rarely give a negative ding. I did on the last thread. I should be ashamed.
You can go back and reverse it. :D
30 | gmsc Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:31:21pm |
There's 2 versions of our next video. So much of the video as it was had to be cut out for broadcast that the censored version has actually become the more famous of the two.
It Nine Inch Nails, with Closer, coming at #17:
34 | gmsc Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:32:42pm |
re: #26 zombie
I have a question: Are these just your personal picks, or or they based on a published list?
They're in the order assigned by VH1, which released them in 1999 as their choices for "The Best Music Videos Ever". Being a 10-year-old list, I figured it was fair to redub them as "The Best Music Videos of the 20th Century".
36 | gmsc Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:33:05pm |
re: #33 DesertSage
What's a glockenspiel?
I'm drunk :(
It's basically a xylophone for a marching band.
37 | traderjoe9 Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:33:08pm |
re: #16 zombie
Too bad about that one stupid error. Would have been a perfect game!
Ehh. I'm not to sore about it. A no-hitter is still an incredible accomplishment.
38 | zombie Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:33:17pm |
re: #33 DesertSage
What's a glockenspiel?
I'm drunk :(
Sort of like a kid's toy xylophone, but you hold it upright and play it while dressed in a ridiculous costume.
40 | Fenway_Nation Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:33:53pm |
re: #33 DesertSage
It's a polymer Austrian pistol going off on a tangent.
41 | Catttt Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:34:01pm |
re: #30 gmsc
That played on the radio the other day - found a good station! They didn't bleep it.
42 | DesertSage Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:34:03pm |
Saturday night in SoCal! :')
[Link: www.astro.ucla.edu...]
43 | traderjoe9 Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:34:22pm |
re: #18 Fenway_Nation
Congrats! I was definitely nowhere near the ballpark when Lester or Buchholz threw their no-hitters.
Thanks. I also went last night when Lincecum had a no-hitter going into the seventh.
Giants are 48-38...second best team in the NL. If we trade for a big bat...I think we can make the playoffs.
45 | Gus Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:34:42pm |
re: #38 zombie
Sort of like a kid's toy xylophone, but you hold it upright and play it while dressed in a ridiculous costume.
Such as lederhosen?
47 | gmsc Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:36:00pm |
Moving on to #16, we have yet another of the most definitive '80s videos out there.
This one is The Police, singing Every Breath You Take:
48 | traderjoe9 Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:36:15pm |
re: #27 redc1c4
i drink so i'm dumb enough to fit in with everyone else........
Hey red,
Here's to a meeting in the NLCS in October.
49 | Fenway_Nation Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:36:27pm |
re: #43 traderjoe9
Best I can do in terms of historic milestones I saw in person was David Ortiz getting his first home run with the Red Sox back in '03 or Trevor Hoffman tying Lee Smith's all-time saves record.
50 | DesertSage Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:36:56pm |
re: #38 zombie
Sort of like a kid's toy xylophone, but you hold it upright and play it while dressed in a ridiculous costume.
I dress in ridicules costumes every day!
51 | NervyNews Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:37:39pm |
Fisk says: "Now, I have to say that I looked at these original texts in the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto [...] At no point in the exhibition, jointly arranged with the professional (and brilliant) assistance of the Israel Antiquities Authority, is there any mention, hem hem, of the West Bank or occupation. Or how the documents found there came to be in the hands of the Israelis."
52 | zombie Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:39:20pm |
re: #34 gmsc
They're in the order assigned by VH1, which released them in 1999 as their choices for "The Best Music Videos Ever". Being a 10-year-old list, I figured it was fair to redub them as "The Best Music Videos of the 20th Century".
Ah. A VH1 list.
The I won't feel guilty interrupting it with some even more entertaining videos...such as:
Halcali doing Tandem
53 | gmsc Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:39:25pm |
Our next two videos are both unembeddable, but they're both definitely worth the clicks to see.
#15 is Missy Elliott singing I Can't Stand The Rain (Supa Dupa Fly).
54 | ShanghaiEd Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:39:28pm |
re: #21 Gus 802
Uh oh, Mark Twain smoked a corn cob pipe as well!
//It's a corn cob conspiracy!
/
For some reason, the Ty Cob pipe never caught on. :)
55 | Fenway_Nation Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:39:37pm |
re: #43 traderjoe9
Or Jason Bay's first career post-season homerun.
56 | traderjoe9 Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:40:03pm |
re: #49 Fenway_Nation
Best I can do in terms of historic milestones I saw in person was David Ortiz getting his first home run with the Red Sox back in '03 or Trevor Hoffman tying Lee Smith's all-time saves record.
Well, before this no-hitter, the only milestone I witnessed was Bond's 755. Which isn't a bad milestone to witness.
Don't feel too bad about not having seen a great milestone. At least you've won several world series recently...
57 | Catttt Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:41:17pm |
Funny thing about the "internet badass" - the one with the comments I pasted above - he has one video - him - it's called "Me Singing Kris Allen The Way You Look Tonight" with a sappy oceanscape background. Really pitiful.
I think he means he's singing it TO Kris Allen (a guy), yet he posts gay-bashing stuff all over the place.
Youtube is a whole lotta weird. Interesting, though.
58 | jaunte Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:41:39pm |
re: #51 GNIDAthe#seCond
From the link:
"This would anger Canada's Turkish community, who are holocaust deniers. And in turn, it would anger the Israel Antiquities Authority, who do not acknowledge that the Armenian Holocaust ever happened, there being only one True Holocaust, which is that of the Jews of Europe.
Fisk is an incredibly disgusting person.
59 | Catttt Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:42:00pm |
re: #52 zombie
I gotta find that Korean breakdancing video now.
60 | sagehen Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:42:17pm |
in re Sen. Ensign and the Hamptons, Josh Marshall wonders,
"Which is more emasculating? Getting paid a hundred grand by the guy who screwed your wife? Or being a fifty-something United States senator and still needing mom and dad to cut the check to pay off your mistress and her husband?"
Discuss.
(also celebrate that I finally learned how to do html links!)
61 | gmsc Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:42:50pm |
Considering #14 is still so highly regarded, it's probably not surprising that you can't find an embeddable version.
62 | Gus Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:43:11pm |
63 | gmsc Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:43:24pm |
re: #52 zombie
Ah. A VH1 list.
The I won't feel guilty interrupting it with some even more entertaining videos...
If you find any entertaining videos, please post them.
65 | Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:45:48pm |
/I'm better now
66 | gmsc Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:46:58pm |
BatGuano? BatGuano, where are you?
Since I started this list, you've been asking about 1 video, and it's coming up now!
#13 is also #1 on the BatGuano hit parade.
It's REM with Losing My Religion:
67 | Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:47:25pm |
68 | DesertSage Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:48:12pm |
70 | redc1c4 Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:49:22pm |
re: #16 zombie
Too bad about that one stupid error. Would have been a perfect game!
too bad it was the Giants....pitching the game.
/white smoke
72 | Killian Bundy Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:50:07pm |
73 | zombie Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:50:35pm |
re: #63 gmsc
If you find any entertaining videos, please post them.
Well, your life is not complete until you have seen the legendarily bizarre
Watermelon Love:
75 | gmsc Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:51:43pm |
Yes, there are still some Michael Jackson videos on the list, and we're going to get one out of the way right now.
#12 is Beat It:
76 | redc1c4 Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:51:44pm |
re: #42 DesertSage
Saturday night in SoCal! :')
[Link: www.astro.ucla.edu...]
on a finally a KMET fryday?
77 | freetoken Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:52:30pm |
re: #15 zombie
Well, I just found my cherry -- the Maraschino Cherry of Hypocrisy:John Holdren has FIVE children.
Oh, sweet irony.
Um, Zombie, you really are slipping up these days...
[Link: www.harvardscience.harvard.edu...]
He now resides with his wife of 42 years, biologist Dr. Cheryl E. Holdren, in Falmouth, Massachusetts. They have two grown children and five grandchildren ages 3 to 17.
78 | redc1c4 Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:52:34pm |
re: #75 gmsc
Yes, there are still some Michael Jackson videos on the list, and we're going to get one out of the way right now.
#12 is Beat It:
[Video]
that's what the one paramedic said to the other when he heard they didn't have a pulse.....
79 | ShanghaiEd Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:54:03pm |
81 | calcajun Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:54:48pm |
Never trust a man who drinks too much on Saturday night and prys too loud on Sunday morning.--Harry S. Truman
82 | pat Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:55:13pm |
Watching Harry Potter I. Clearly one of the best directed movies of all time. Right up there with The Wizard Of Oz, for recreating a contemporaneous novel with a film.
83 | calcajun Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:55:32pm |
re: #81 calcajun
Never trust a man who drinks too much on Saturday night and prys too loud on Sunday morning.--Harry S. Truman
prays, dammit. Prays.
PIMF
84 | redc1c4 Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:55:55pm |
re: #56 traderjoe9
Well, before this no-hitter, the only milestone I witnessed was Bond's 755. Which isn't a bad milestone to witness.
asterisk and all.......
Don't feel too bad about not having seen a great milestone. At least you've won several world series recently...
FTFY!
85 | Fenway_Nation Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:56:16pm |
So.....Red Sox are back in 1st place with two games to go before the 2009 Boston Red Sox MLB All-Star break...
All this supposed drama of a tie for first place between the Sox and the Yankees is kind of moot, since the Red Sox own the tiebreaker (head-to-head record versus the team you're tied with).
I remember it well- that was the difference between a Wild Card berth and the AL East pennant back in '05.
86 | traderjoe9 Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:56:22pm |
87 | gmsc Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:56:32pm |
We started tonight with a video that drew its inspiration from the movie Coming To America, so we'll finish with a video that seems to be inspired by the Indiana Jones movies.
#11 is Duran Duran's Hungry Like the Wolf:
Tomorrow, we'll conclude with the final 10 videos!
89 | zombie Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:57:16pm |
re: #77 freetoken
Gee -- I was just quoting that article! Guess the Sydney Morning Herald got it wrong -- or somebody got it wrong!
I have a feeling it was a sloppy reporter.
Yet more confirmation to NEVER trust what a reporter says without first verifying it.
90 | laZardo Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:58:02pm |
One of my petty vices is solo hiking.
/and good afternoon to ye
91 | redc1c4 Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:58:44pm |
re: #43 traderjoe9
Thanks. I also went last night when Lincecum had a no-hitter going into the seventh.
Giants are 48-38...second best team in the NL. If we trade for a big bat...I think we can make the playoffs.
you can order your tickets now..... it's much easier.
92 | redc1c4 Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:59:35pm |
re: #86 traderjoe9
Yessir.
then i don't give a damn who's playing.... pour up.
/practical to the end %-)
93 | ShanghaiEd Fri, Jul 10, 2009 11:59:37pm |
re: #88 Catttt
Freudian PIMF? Hmmmmm......
Just what I was thinking. My church used to pry, and pry, and pry...
94 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:00:01am |
Today in History, July 11th:
Highlights of this day in history: America normalizes diplomatic ties with Vietnam; Aaron Burr mortally wounds Alexander Hamilton in a duel; Skylab makes a fiery return to Earth; Babe Ruth's major league debut; Laurence Olivier dies.
Other notable July 11th events include:
1735 – Mathematical calculations suggest that it is on this day that Pluto moved from the ninth to the eighth most distant planet from the Sun for the last time before 1979.
1859 – A Tale of Two Cities by Charles Dickens is published.
1889 – Tijuana, Mexico, is founded.
1895 – The Lumière brothers demonstrate film technology to scientists.
1921 – Former U.S. President William Howard Taft is sworn in as 10th Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, becoming the only person to ever be both President and Chief Justice.
1960 – To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee is first published.
1977 – Martin Luther King Jr. is posthumously awarded the Medal of Freedom.
1987 – According to the United Nations, the world population crosses the 5,000,000,000 (5 billion) mark.
2006 – 209 people are killed in a series of bomb attacks in Mumbai, India.
95 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:00:01am |
OT: What's up with David Brooks?
David Brooks: A Republican senator put ‘his hand on my inner thigh’ for a ‘whole’ dinner party.
O’DONNELL: What, what’s happened?
BROOKS: You know, all three of us spend a lot of time covering politicians and I don’t know about you guys, but in my view, they’re all emotional freaks of one sort or another. They’re guaranteed to invade your personal space, touch you. I sat next to a Republican senator once at dinner and he had his hand on my inner thigh the whole time. I was like, ehh, get me out of here.
HARWOOD: What?
BROOKS: I can only imagine what happens to you guys.
O’DONNELL: Sorry, who was that?
BROOKS: I’m not telling you, I’m not telling you. But so, a lot of them spend so much time needing people’s love and yet they are shooting upwards their whole life, they’re not that great in normal human relationships. And so, they’re like freaks, they don’t know how to, they’re lonely. They reach out. I’ve spoken to a lot of young women who are Senate staffers and they’ll have these middle age guys who are sort of in the middle of a mid-life crisis. Emotionally needy, they don’t know how to do it and sort of like these St. Bernards drooling everywhere. And you find a lot of this happens in mid-life and among very powerful people who are extremely lonely.
96 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:00:20am |
re: #89 zombie
Gee -- I was just quoting that article! Guess the Sydney Morning Herald got it wrong -- or somebody got it wrong!
I have a feeling it was a sloppy reporter.
Yet more confirmation to NEVER trust what a reporter says without first verifying it.
It's close. The five number in the article you mention refers to Holdren's grandchildren:
It's also about future generations. Eighteen months ago, I eventually asked Mr Bush's representative whether he ever lay awake at night worrying about what he would tell his grandchildren if he proved to be wrong. "I have no children," he shot back, "therefore I will have no grandchildren."
Professor Holdren, I'm glad to reveal, has five.
The article is correct.
98 | calcajun Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:01:22am |
re: #93 ShanghaiEd
Just what I was thinking. My church used to pry, and pry, and pry...
Now, just...stop that. Dammit.// To much friggin Scotch and it's too late.
99 | freetoken Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:02:05am |
re: #89 zombie
Yet more confirmation to NEVER trust what a reporter says without first verifying it.
The best research almost always relies on original sources, or at least information of which the provenance is known.
Zombie, if I may be so bold, may I suggest you set aside the whatever is driving you when you do research, and instead approach the endeavor in a colder, more impassioned manner? I get the feeling you are rushing things too much lately.
100 | zombie Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:02:39am |
Dang, the Internet is an amazing thing.
Just a few short hours after posting the excerpts from "Ecoscience," my report is already the 9th-ranked result for "John Holdren" in a Google search.
Top ten out of 115,000 hits.
How'd that happen so fast?
102 | traderjoe9 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:03:25am |
re: #84 redc1c4
FTFY!
I bet you cheered for Manny when he came back too, didn't you?
You can't see beyond your hatred for the Giants that Bonds did nothing different than an enormous amount of ballplayers this decade. Teams would mercilessly boo Bonds every time he stepped up to the batter box, completely ignoring the fact that a substantial number of players on their own team were also juiced up. And that certainly does not exclude Los Angeles.
If you insist on putting an asterik next to Bond's record, then you should also insist on putting an asterik next to Boston's 2004 and 2007 WS championships. Boy, were those teams juiced.
Hypocrites.
103 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:03:30am |
re: #99 freetoken
The best research almost always relies on original sources, or at least information of which the provenance is known.
Zombie, if I may be so bold, may I suggest you set aside the whatever is driving you when you do research, and instead approach the endeavor in a colder, more impassioned manner? I get the feeling you are rushing things too much lately.
maybe you mean "...colder, less impassioned manner...", he asked the sock.
104 | freetoken Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:03:53am |
105 | zombie Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:06:01am |
re: #96 Gus 802
The article is correct.
But it's confusingly written. Once again:
'It's also about future generations. Eighteen months ago, I eventually asked Mr Bush's representative whether he ever lay awake at night worrying about what he would tell his grandchildren if he proved to be wrong. "I have no children," he shot back, "therefore I will have no grandchildren."
Professor Holdren, I'm glad to reveal, has five."
Could be interpreted either way -- that he has five children, or grandchildren. Bad writing.
Anyway, I'll drop the issue now, whichever way they intended! Just thought it was a bit ironic, but sigh, tis not to be.
106 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:07:00am |
re: #105 zombie
But it's confusingly written. Once again:
'It's also about future generations. Eighteen months ago, I eventually asked Mr Bush's representative whether he ever lay awake at night worrying about what he would tell his grandchildren if he proved to be wrong. "I have no children," he shot back, "therefore I will have no grandchildren."
Professor Holdren, I'm glad to reveal, has five."
Could be interpreted either way -- that he has five children, or grandchildren. Bad writing.
Anyway, I'll drop the issue now, whichever way they intended! Just thought it was a bit ironic, but sigh, tis not to be.
OK, I was going with the "declarative" of "therefore I will have no grandchildren."
107 | DesertSage Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:07:52am |
108 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:08:21am |
109 | Catttt Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:08:44am |
OMG. Found a vid from the Vancouver show with an accidental (I think) close up of Adam's - um - bumping and grinding - crotch - during Fame. /fans self
110 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:09:35am |
111 | calcajun Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:09:54am |
OK--taking kids to the beach and need some ZZ"s. C'yall later.
113 | zombie Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:11:33am |
re: #99 freetoken
The best research almost always relies on original sources, or at least information of which the provenance is known.
Zombie, if I may be so bold, may I suggest you set aside the whatever is driving you when you do research, and instead approach the endeavor in a colder, more impassioned manner? I get the feeling you are rushing things too much lately.
I have very limited free time. I actually spent several days on that report, on and off, with hours spent here and there when i could. It's not that I'm rushing, it's that I have a limited amount of time before I need to say, "OK, roll this one out the door." Because if I wait until something is "perfect" and "complete," I'll never get anything done.
I'm only one person -- not an entire news network with a staff of hundreds. My skills and time are circumscribed! Plus, I'm not getting paid for this -- it's just a "hobby" if you will.
I do what I do, and that's all I can do.
Not good enough for you? Then do something better yourself!
114 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:11:36am |
re: #100 zombie
re: #102 traderjoe9
I bet you cheered for Manny when he came back too, didn't you?
You can't see beyond your hatred for the Giants that Bonds did nothing different than an enormous amount of ballplayers this decade. Teams would mercilessly boo Bonds every time he stepped up to the batter box, completely ignoring the fact that a substantial number of players on their own team were also juiced up. And that certainly does not exclude Los Angeles.
If you insist on putting an asterik next to Bond's record, then you should also insist on putting an asterik next to Boston's 2004 and 2007 WS championships. Boy, were those teams juiced.
Hypocrites.
fuck Manny, and all the other fake players, starting with Barry, and all his lies, and everyone who covered for him, then and now.....
i haven't gone to a MLB game in years, and i'm not likely to before i die. the last game i attended was the last home Dodger game, when the O'Malley's still owned the team.
put an asterisk on all of them, or better yet, throw them all out of the sport, and bring back athletes we can be proud of to root for.
until then, who cares?
115 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:12:36am |
re: #102 traderjoe9
I was looking through this photo essay earlier this week. A couple of captions were going to great lengths to explain that Boston's two World Series titles were 'tainted' by the presence of Manny.
OK....ponder the irony of that argument being made by fans of a team that have rostered Andy Pettitte, Jason Giambi, Roger Clemens, Gary Sheffield and Alex Rodriguez for most of that same timeframe....
116 | sagehen Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:12:48am |
re: #95 iceweasel
OT: What's up with David Brooks?
David Brooks: A Republican senator put ‘his hand on my inner thigh’ for a ‘whole’ dinner party.
How does somebody get to be that age and not recognize such a blatant pass? I'd love to see Brooks' face when somebody informs him that by not removing the Senator's hand, he'd been leading him on.
118 | CommonCents Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:13:30am |
re: #49 Fenway_Nation
Best I can do in terms of historic milestones I saw in person was David Ortiz getting his first home run with the Red Sox back in '03 or Trevor Hoffman tying Lee Smith's all-time saves record.
I was there in Cincy when Pete Rose (mgr/player) got poked in the eye by umpire Dave Pallone and then tossed for pushing Pallone. The ensuing 1 hour delay of people throwing crap on the field after he tossed Rose was top-notch entertainment.
119 | Flyers1974 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:14:17am |
re: #95 iceweasel
He uses the word "freaks" a couple times. What's up indeed. Don't know much about Brooks.
120 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:14:18am |
Hey everyone. It's been a long time since I've been here. Got a question. Is that automatic scrolling thingy still working and if it is, what do I have to click?
121 | Flyers1974 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:15:17am |
re: #116 sagehen
Yes, interesting admission on Brooks' part.
122 | zombie Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:15:28am |
re: #120 Soona'
Hey everyone. It's been a long time since I've been here. Got a question. Is that automatic scrolling thingy still working and if it is, what do I have to click?
I think you click the "Auto" box directly underneath this comment at the end of the thread.
123 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:15:39am |
in keeping with tonight's topics, i'm gonna go see if i can shoot a rat....
brb!
124 | Catttt Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:16:05am |
re: #116 sagehen
How does somebody get to be that age and not recognize such a blatant pass? I'd love to see Brooks' face when somebody informs him that by not removing the Senator's hand, he'd been leading him on.
For real. "Take you hand off my leg" always works for me. Favorite response - "Oh. I didn't know it would bother you." Reply - "Well, now you do."
125 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:16:05am |
re: #120 Soona'
Hey everyone. It's been a long time since I've been here. Got a question. Is that automatic scrolling thingy still working and if it is, what do I have to click?
yes.
126 | Catttt Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:16:58am |
re: #120 Soona'
Hey everyone. It's been a long time since I've been here. Got a question. Is that automatic scrolling thingy still working and if it is, what do I have to click?
The "Auto" box. I'm afraid of it, myself.
127 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:18:34am |
Zelaya Returns to Washington After Honduras Peace Talks Stall
Deposed Honduran President Manuel Zelaya traveled to Washington yesterday to meet officials from the U.S. State Department after negotiations in Costa Rica ended inconclusively casting doubt on a return to power in Honduras.
Honduran Cardinal puts the blame on President Chávez for the crisis
In an interview released on Honduras media, the top representative of the Catholic Church in Honduras, Cardinal Oscar Rodríguez, put the blame on Venezuela's President Hugo Chávez for the crisis in the Central American country and recommended him to refrain himself from "putting his hands here."
/what the hell are we doing, who's side are we on?
128 | ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:18:50am |
re: #108 Killian Bundy
About your origins, no.
/defend stupid TOTUS policies, you bet
OK, works for me. Let's start fresh?
131 | pat Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:20:00am |
Let's just do it.
Don't Fear The Reaper.
132 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:20:19am |
re: #127 Killian Bundy
Guess 'Revolution Theology' isnt Cardinal Rodriguez's thing...
133 | Flyers1974 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:20:25am |
re: #116 sagehen
How does somebody get to be that age and not recognize such a blatant pass? I'd love to see Brooks' face when somebody informs him that by not removing the Senator's hand, he'd been leading him on.
Hard to tell, but I figured he did recognize it as a blatant pass but didn't do anything about it for whatever reason.
134 | CommonCents Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:20:58am |
re: #121 Flyers1974
Yes, interesting admission on Brooks' part.
He obviously enjoyed it if he let it go on so long. I would of knocked the dude out, Senator or not.
135 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:21:09am |
re: #105 zombie
But it's confusingly written. Once again:
'It's also about future generations. Eighteen months ago, I eventually asked Mr Bush's representative whether he ever lay awake at night worrying about what he would tell his grandchildren if he proved to be wrong. "I have no children," he shot back, "therefore I will have no grandchildren."
Professor Holdren, I'm glad to reveal, has five."
Could be interpreted either way -- that he has five children, or grandchildren. Bad writing.
Anyway, I'll drop the issue now, whichever way they intended! Just thought it was a bit ironic, but sigh, tis not to be.
Just to go further, it is ironic. Ironic that Holden even had two children and now has five grandchildren. Maybe, just maybe we can toss up his writing to youthful environut hubris.
136 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:22:08am |
re: #118 CommonCents
I bet there's 125,000 Southsiders who swear they were in Comiskey for Disco Demolition night some 30 years later.
137 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:23:33am |
re: #95 iceweasel
OT: What's up with David Brooks?
David Brooks: A Republican senator put ‘his hand on my inner thigh’ for a ‘whole’ dinner party.
I'm curious. For one, Brooks claims that this man had his hand on his inner thigh throughout the dinner. Why didn't he express his displeasure with that? More importantly, how did the other man eat if this was a dinner? With one hand? Something doesn't add up.
138 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:24:09am |
re: #126 Catttt
The "Auto" box. I'm afraid of it, myself.
It's an overnight thread. I figure I can keep up with that. If it were, say, a speech by the zero concerning his wife's fashion sense, it would be impossible.
139 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:24:49am |
140 | freetoken Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:25:17am |
re: #113 zombie
Not good enough for you?
Actually no, it isn't. Then again, you aren't asking anything ($) from me for it, so it doesn't really matter very much.
Then do something better yourself!
Zombie, your writings affect your reputation, not mine.
I'm not being too harsh on you, only giving you heads up (such as when on both occasions you posted the drafts to your Holdren article here and in those threads I posted about the testimony at the Senate). If you had added that bit about Holdren having 5 children to your zombietimes article it would finally come out that you were wrong, and (for those who care about such things) lead one to believe your article isn't to trusted.
The rush to print is a definite problem that newspapers get into... and then all of us in the penny gallery get to throw barbs at the "media" for their errors.
141 | Flyers1974 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:25:27am |
re: #134 CommonCents
In the regular world, I agree. In that world, power is everything, I think.
142 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:26:05am |
re: #139 Fenway_Nation
He had the soup and asked for a silly straw?
Yeah. That would work. Cream of mushroom soup.
"Excuse me! But could someone cut my steak for me please? Seems as though my other hand is occupied!"
//
143 | traderjoe9 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:26:56am |
re: #115 Fenway_Nation
I was looking through this photo essay earlier this week. A couple of captions were going to great lengths to explain that Boston's two World Series titles were 'tainted' by the presence of Manny.
OK....ponder the irony of that argument being made by fans of a team that have rostered Andy Pettitte, Jason Giambi, Roger Clemens, Gary Sheffield and Alex Rodriguez for most of that same timeframe....
Hey, I'm not only taking a shot at the Red Sox. It's just that the Red Sox did win two world series. But it should also be pointed out that every single World Series winner this decade has a number of their better players juiced. If the Giants won in 2002 - there would be a push to put an asterik next to it, despite the fact that the Angels were loaded with juicers that year.
144 | Mich-again Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:27:49am |
re: #136 Fenway_Nation
I bet there's 125,000 Southsiders who swear they were in Comiskey for Disco Demolition night some 30 years later.
I watched it on TV. I remember George Kell saying "These aren't baseball fans!"
145 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:28:55am |
re: #110 Killian Bundy
I apologize.
/I get it now
Thanks for apologising. Let's start fresh, shall we?
146 | pbird Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:28:56am |
147 | traderjoe9 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:29:29am |
re: #114 redc1c4
re: #102 traderjoe9
fuck Manny, and all the other fake players, starting with Barry, and all his lies, and everyone who covered for him, then and now.....
i haven't gone to a MLB game in years, and i'm not likely to before i die. the last game i attended was the last home Dodger game, when the O'Malley's still owned the team.
put an asterisk on all of them, or better yet, throw them all out of the sport, and bring back athletes we can be proud of to root for.
until then, who cares?
The last decade really was a dark cloud over baseball...Selig and other MLB personel should really be scrutinized for the pathetic drug testing system in place...Manny is really an idiot for being caught. I'm sure theres plenty of juicers still out there, beating the pathetic system.
148 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:30:30am |
Interesting to note. Glowing praise from Obama and David Axelrod regarding David Brooks:
Axelrod on Brooks: ‘true public thinker’
Note the chummy image of Brooks standing next to Axelrod after receiving an award.
149 | zombie Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:30:33am |
re: #131 pat
Let's just do it.
Don't Fear The Reaper.[Video]
I'm not hearing enough cowbell on that take!
150 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:30:39am |
re: #8 Fenway_Nation
/Hmm....let me guess. 'We support the
troopsfirefighters, as long as they're the right skin color or ethnicity' ?
Just find proof that Sotoymayor is a practicing Christian. She'll be dropped by the Dems faster than a hot potato.
151 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:31:46am |
re: #137 Gus 802
I'm curious. For one, Brooks claims that this man had his hand on his inner thigh throughout the dinner. Why didn't he express his displeasure with that? More importantly, how did the other man eat if this was a dinner? With one hand? Something doesn't add up.
Agreed. The comments on the article say the same thing. How did Brooks sit through all that.
Although I've been in that situation and it's quite possible for the other to eat with one hand. :)
But like Iron Fist, I'm not a fan of Brooks anyway.
153 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:32:15am |
re: #147 traderjoe9
The last decade really was a dark cloud over baseball...Selig and other MLB personel should really be scrutinized for the pathetic drug testing system in place...Manny is really an idiot for being caught. I'm sure theres plenty of juicers still out there, beating the pathetic system.
There are. I wonder if there'll ever be a 'roid test for the NBA? If there is I've never heard of it.
154 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:33:03am |
155 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:33:54am |
re: #143 traderjoe9
Hey, I'm not only taking a shot at the Red Sox. It's just that the Red Sox did win two world series. But it should also be pointed out that every single World Series winner this decade has a number of their better players juiced. If the Giants won in 2002 - there would be a push to put an asterik next to it, despite the fact that the Angels were loaded with juicers that year.
then, for as much as we're paying for these players, they should test everyone, prior to every game, no exceptions.
156 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:34:39am |
re: #151 iceweasel
Agreed. The comments on the article say the same thing. How did Brooks sit through all that.
Although I've been in that situation and it's quite possible for the other to eat with one hand. :)But like Iron Fist, I'm not a fan of Brooks anyway.
Ah good, I'm glad about the comments. It's kind of troubling too. Brook's words is a bit of slander and a feeble attempt at outing. Let's say the man did put his hand on his thigh a few times. It's been my experience that some older men are what I would call "touchy guys." I've experienced it before and they'll talk with you and put there hand on your shoulder or even leg from time to time. It's a little off putting and never saw any harm in it. Maybe I'm wrong.
158 | traderjoe9 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:36:45am |
re: #155 redc1c4
then, for as much as we're paying for these players, they should test everyone, prior to every game, no exceptions.
Well, you obviously can't do each player before every game. What I would promote is that each player in baseball gets tested at least once a week before a game, as you suggested - but at random, so the players don't know when they're getting tested.
Something like this is completely feasible IMO. Only 25 players on a team...test 5 players before each game.
Viola!
159 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:36:59am |
re: #150 gmsc
I thought it was one of those unspoken rules that both sides adhered to that first responders were more or less off-limits (especially after 9/11) unless they were doing something blatantly wrong or indefensible.
I don't see how passing a city-mandated exam (and overcoming dyslexia in the process) and filing a grievance when the city tells you the results don't count counts as something indefensible.
But by all means- I hope the left and Sotomayor's race-baiting backers run with it. Taking a big steaming dump all over firefighters goes over about as well as taking a big steaming dump all over our troops with most Americans.
I only ask that the 'progressives' hold off on hatcheting Ricci and other firefighters until the autumn of 2010....
160 | ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:37:52am |
re: #95 iceweasel
Y'know, what's weirder to me than the fact that he didn't move his thighs away is how he segues into a metaphor about lonely Senate guys and female staffers, as if it's the equivalent to a male/male thigh encounter. Surely even Brooks is smarter, or at least more sophisticated, than this.
Also, he doesn't say if the dinner party was last week or 25 years ago. As Gus says, something don't add up.
161 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:40:21am |
re: #156 Gus 802
Ah good, I'm glad about the comments. It's kind of troubling too. Brook's words is a bit of slander and a feeble attempt at outing. Let's say the man did put his hand on his thigh a few times. It's been my experience that some older men are what I would call "touchy guys." I've experienced it before and they'll talk with you and put there hand on your shoulder or even leg from time to time. It's a little off putting and never saw any harm in it. Maybe I'm wrong.
Well, there I have to disagree with you somewhat. The inner thigh under the table is pretty damn different than someone putting a hand on your shoulder.
Some of the comments over there are hilarious, talking about Bernaise sause shooting every which way. Yeech.
They eventually asked Brooks if he'd had a couple of drinks at lunch before giving this interview:
BROOKS: Yeah, I wish I could think of sort of St. Bernards, sloppy women who are licking their aides, but but no, I can’t think of any.
HARWOOD: I’m not going there.
O’DONNELL: Did you have a couple drinks at lunch, David? I mean, this is clearly....
BROOKS: No, you’ve hit me…I’m trying not to be too dignified and stuffy.
O’DONNELL: Well, David Brooks as always, thank you very much. That was a lot of fun. You may not have gotten best column of the week, but you got best appearance of the week, certainly.
162 | ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:41:49am |
re: #156 Gus 802
Ah good, I'm glad about the comments. It's kind of troubling too. Brook's words is a bit of slander and a feeble attempt at outing. Let's say the man did put his hand on his thigh a few times. It's been my experience that some older men are what I would call "touchy guys." I've experienced it before and they'll talk with you and put there hand on your shoulder or even leg from time to time. It's a little off putting and never saw any harm in it. Maybe I'm wrong.
Yeah, I agree. There's a great short story about this subject: "Hands," by Sherwood Anderson. The character is a gifted teacher of young kids, who apparently loses his career because of rumors about him being too hands-on, even though there's nothing sexual about it.
163 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:42:24am |
re: #158 traderjoe9
Well, you obviously can't do each player before every game. What I would promote is that each player in baseball gets tested at least once a week before a game, as you suggested - but at random, so the players don't know when they're getting tested.
Something like this is completely feasible IMO. Only 25 players on a team...test 5 players before each game.
Viola!
25 players, 25 cups, and, to be fair, all the other on field staff, coaches, etc, plus the umpires.
you wanna play, you gotta piss. every game, every time. do the hair samples at random, for a backup.
it's not like pissing in a cup is hard, or that MLB doesn't have the money....
164 | zombie Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:44:43am |
re: #140 freetoken
I don't care about my reputation. I don't want people to trust me. I want them to trust their own eyes. I just toss the evidence into the great meat grinder of American society and see how (or whether) it gets chewed up and digested. Sometimes I succeed, sometimes I fail -- but in no instance is my success or failure based on my reputation or who I am, but rather on the evidence I provide for the reader to assess.
In fact, I would prefer to have remained completely meta-anonymous -- I had no plans to develop the "zombie" name into a brand "that you can trust." I want and need to start from scratch every time.
And lastly -- many articles and products are not "perfected" until they're out in the wild and "road-tested" for a while. One can't see what is lacking until the thing in question in manhandled by the public. Only then can one release "version 2.0" or add an update or whatever. Even the best companies with huge teams release imperfect products all the time, and later refine them. So I don't expect myself to hit a perfect home run with every single post, on the first swing each time.
Ankle-biters don't bother me. I have respect for people who create, not for people who gripe that others' creations are imperfect.
165 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:44:58am |
re: #161 iceweasel
I suppose. But without a video! I'm trying to think where I've had that kind of happen. Like they'll do it while your driving down the road and they're talking away about something they did in the 1940s and then they'll put their hand on the top of the thigh. Back and forth. Then there's the "arms around your shoulders guys" that also used to common.
167 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:46:22am |
Feels like I cannot emphasise this enough- soxfanforlife, remembertonyC and Cape Coddah would concur.
They hate us- they really hate us.
/And I couldn't be happier.
168 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:46:48am |
re: #165 Gus 802
I suppose. But without a video! I'm trying to think where I've had that kind of happen. Like they'll do it while your driving down the road and they're talking away about something they did in the 1940s and then they'll put their hand on the top of the thigh. Back and forth. Then there's the "arms around your shoulders guys" that also used to common.
we'll take your word for it........
/shudder
169 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:47:10am |
re: #162 ShanghaiEd
Yeah, I agree. There's a great short story about this subject: "Hands," by Sherwood Anderson. The character is a gifted teacher of young kids, who apparently loses his career because of rumors about him being too hands-on, even though there's nothing sexual about it.
I'm trying to find some references to this phenomenon.
170 | GGMac Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:47:17am |
Chris Cuomo can bite.........something.
FOX news' resident priest, Father Jonathan Morris, is on Red Eye - he found it interesting that the media doesn't believe Obama eyed the 16 year old's tukus; looked to him like the O was doing what everyone knows he was doing.
yes...paraphrased :)
Seems Father Jonathan knows Obama's not the messiah, in spite of the MSM.
171 | ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:49:04am |
re: #161 iceweasel
True, "inner thigh" and "entire dinner party" is a far cry from a pat on the shoulder or a single squeeze of the leg in passing.
172 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:49:06am |
re: #170 GGMac
Chris Cuomo can bite.........something.
FOX news' resident priest, Father Jonathan Morris, is on Red Eye - he found it interesting that the media doesn't believe Obama eyed the 16 year old's tukus; looked to him like the O was doing what everyone knows he was doing.
yes...paraphrased :)
Seems Father Jonathan knows Obama's not the messiah, in spite of the MSM.
Ear Leader's bib was soaked...... if he'd have drooled anymore, the folks on the lower level would have drowned.
173 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:49:45am |
re: #171 ShanghaiEd
True, "inner thigh" and "entire dinner party" is a far cry from a pat on the shoulder or a single squeeze of the leg in passing.
and it also sounds like horseshit at first listen.
174 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:49:54am |
re: #165 Gus 802
I suppose. But without a video! I'm trying to think where I've had that kind of happen. Like they'll do it while your driving down the road and they're talking away about something they did in the 1940s and then they'll put their hand on the top of the thigh. Back and forth. Then there's the "arms around your shoulders guys" that also used to common.
Either way, it just creeps me out anytime a guy gets too physically close to me.
175 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:50:03am |
re: #165 Gus 802
Like they'll do it while your driving down the road and they're talking away about something they did in the 1940s and then they'll put their hand on the top of the thigh. Back and forth.
I feel like I'm destroying your innocence or something here, but that sounds like a pass. Especially if this happened to you while hitch-hiking. Just sayin'.
I think it may not be obvious to a heterosexual male that this is a pass, but it is.
:(
177 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:51:01am |
re: #174 Soona'
Either way, it just creeps me out anytime a guy gets too physically close to me.
Yeah, my response is to repel.
178 | Catttt Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:51:08am |
re: #160 ShanghaiEd
Y'know, what's weirder to me than the fact that he didn't move his thighs away is how he segues into a metaphor about lonely Senate guys and female staffers, as if it's the equivalent to a male/male thigh encounter. Surely even Brooks is smarter, or at least more sophisticated, than this.
Also, he doesn't say if the dinner party was last week or 25 years ago. As Gus says, something don't add up.
I have trouble believing a senator - even one dumb or horny enough to make a pass at a reporter - would keep his hand there through an entire dinner. Most people need both arms to eat dinner.
179 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:51:36am |
re: #174 Soona'
Either way, it just creeps me out anytime a guy gets too physically close to me.
lighten up Francis.....
180 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:52:27am |
re: #178 Catttt
I have trouble believing a senator - even one dumb or horny enough to make a pass at a reporter - would keep his hand there through an entire dinner. Most people need both arms to eat dinner.
thank you.
181 | Mich-again Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:52:45am |
182 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:53:34am |
re: #175 iceweasel
I feel like I'm destroying your innocence or something here, but that sounds like a pass. Especially if this happened to you while hitch-hiking. Just sayin'.
I think it may not be obvious to a heterosexual male that this is a pass, but it is.
:(
I've never really gone hitch hiking much. Once and this guy just showed us this big old silver long barrel .45. We were shocked and impressed is all. I know what a pass is having lived in San Francisco for 4 years. Maybe those other events were or weren't.
183 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:54:31am |
re: #178 Catttt
I have trouble believing a senator - even one dumb or horny enough to make a pass at a reporter - would keep his hand there through an entire dinner. Most people need both arms to eat dinner.
Exactamundo. That one armed eating thing is the key.
So one would have to ask Brooks, what side was he sitting and if the person in question is left handed or right handed.
184 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:54:55am |
re: #181 Mich-again
Is that you Sergeant Hulka?
naw......... i'm the SP4 in charge of the arms room.
/of course, that means they never would have gotten anything signed out to fulfill the script, but why ruin a good plot?
185 | Catttt Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:55:13am |
re: #174 Soona'
Either way, it just creeps me out anytime a guy gets too physically close to me.
You're going to love this video. :D
186 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:56:29am |
re: #183 Gus 802
Exactamundo. That one armed eating thing is the key.
So one would have to ask Brooks, what side was he sitting and if the person in question is left handed or right handed.
actually, one would simply have to say "bullshit", and let him substantiate the claim or STFU.
187 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 12:57:54am |
re: #182 Gus 802
I've never really gone hitch hiking much. Once and this guy just showed us this big old silver long barrel .45. We were shocked and impressed is all. I know what a pass is having lived in San Francisco for 4 years. Maybe those other events were or weren't.
To me, what's funny about all this isn't what Brooks said-- I have no idea if it's true and don't care, and it certainly sounds like he exaggerated at least-- but the fact that the interviewer asked him if he'd had a couple of drinks before doing the show. (I'm not a Brooks fan at all, so any opportunity to laugh at him is fine with me)
188 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:00:07am |
re: #187 iceweasel
To me, what's funny about all this isn't what Brooks said-- I have no idea if it's true and don't care, and it certainly sounds like he exaggerated at least-- but the fact that the interviewer asked him if he'd had a couple of drinks before doing the show. (I'm not a Brooks fan at all, so any opportunity to laugh at him is fine with me)
Brooks is single no? Hmm, I'm wondering now. Maybe there's a reason he let that senator put his hand on his thigh throughout the dinner? He's a nice dresser and still wears those "Annie Hall" glasses. Hmmm.
189 | Catttt Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:00:58am |
re: #188 Gus 802
Brooks is single no? Hmm, I'm wondering now. Maybe there's a reason he let that senator put his hand on his thigh throughout the dinner? He's a nice dresser and still wears those "Annie Hall" glasses. Hmmm.
No, he's married.
190 | zombie Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:01:46am |
re: #176 redc1c4
hey Zombie: you're on Ace of Spades too.......
Cool!
Google Blog search reveals about 40 more links to my report, though it's strangely incomplete -- it only seems to catch about one-third of the actual links (LGF and Michelle Malkin, for example, are not on there, nor are many others I know about). Technorati reveals more...and then there are the "secondary links" of people who don't link to me directly, but rather to some other blog's coverage of the topic.
Overall, I'm probably way past 100 links by now. Maybe the "Hundredth Blog" principle will kick in and the MSM will take notice.
191 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:02:12am |
192 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:03:25am |
re: #190 zombie
Cool!
Google Blog search reveals about 40 more links to my report, though it's strangely incomplete -- it only seems to catch about one-third of the actual links (LGF and Michelle Malkin, for example, are not on there, nor are many others I know about). Technorati reveals more...and then there are the "secondary links" of people who don't link to me directly, but rather to some other blog's coverage of the topic.
Overall, I'm probably way past 100 links by now. Maybe the "Hundredth Blog" principle will kick in and the MSM will take notice.
Check out a Twitter search.
It's using "zombietime."
193 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:04:19am |
re: #189 Catttt
No, he's married.
Maybe he's homophobic? I can imagine that this guy accidentally stepped on his foot or something under the table and Brooks has now blown it up into a fullblown pass.
I've known straight guys before who were utterly paranoid and convinced that gay men were hitting on them when they weren't-- and when the men supposedly hitting on them weren't even gay.
194 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:04:43am |
re: #145 iceweasel
Let's start fresh
Probably would have been better if I hadn't just seen that exact phrase from someone else, but sure.
/don't get any ideas that TOTUS isn't wrecking the U.S. economy and we'll be fine
195 | sagehen Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:04:50am |
re: #190 zombie
Overall, I'm probably way past 100 links by now. Maybe the "Hundredth Blog" principle will kick in and the MSM will take notice.
Not until Monday.
196 | Mich-again Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:05:16am |
re: #190 zombie
it only seems to catch about one-third of the actual links (LGF and Michelle Malkin, for example, are not on there, nor are many others I know about)
Those sites probably don't allow Google's bot to just look around and grab stuff, so it doesn't see whats in there.
197 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:05:55am |
re: #170 GGMac
Dubya had his 'It's good to be the king' moment with the Women's Olympic Beach Volleyball players in Beijing last year.
I don't begrudge him for that, and I don't begrudge 0 for having a look-see at some teenage Brazilian girl who was well put-together. I will however begrudge those in the MSM who adamantly deny that 0 wasn't doing what was so obvious he was doing....
I'd like to think that the 0 and his reign could be derailed on account of his disastrous economic policies that will result in massive job losses- not taking a gander at some Brazilian boo-tay
198 | Mich-again Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:07:06am |
re: #197 Fenway_Nation
I think before I can rule on the topic I need to see exhibits A and B.
199 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:07:16am |
re: #185 Catttt
I can't identify with any of those "metro" looking guys. Man-hugs, handshakes, an arm across the shoulder don't bother me, unless the other guy decides to linger with it. Hands on the thigh is something completely different.
200 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:07:18am |
201 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:07:20am |
re: #194 Killian Bundy
Probably would have been better if I hadn't just seen that exact phrase from someone else, but sure.
Hadn't even seen that when I answered you; it's a cliche, what can I say. Sometimes the simplest explanation (coincidence) is also the right one.
202 | Catttt Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:08:43am |
re: #191 Gus 802
Ah, OK. Was looking at Wiki and it didn't say.
Well, he's mentioned a wife "Sarah" somewhere, and kids - don't remember how many.
203 | ShanghaiEd Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:09:31am |
I'm out for now, guys. Hope to be back over the weekend. See you then.
204 | Catttt Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:09:36am |
re: #199 Soona'
I can't identify with any of those "metro" looking guys. Man-hugs, handshakes, an arm across the shoulder don't bother me, unless the other guy decides to linger with it. Hands on the thigh is something completely different.
Poor baby. /cheeky grin
205 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:09:51am |
re: #200 Fenway_Nation
Like I said- two words:
Silly Straw
"Yes, I'll have the rehydratable filet mignon, and rehydratable salad. And a Tang to drink please. Also, plenty of straws."
//
206 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:10:42am |
re: #203 ShanghaiEd
I'm out for now, guys. Hope to be back over the weekend. See you then.
Hasta later Ed.
207 | Catttt Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:11:17am |
re: #205 Gus 802
"Yes, I'll have the rehydratable filet mignon, and rehydratable salad. And a Tang to drink please. Also, plenty of straws."
//
Oh - maybe he was using that new fast-food bag The Onion was talking about last week! :D
My cats say I should be in bed, so goodnight.
208 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:11:37am |
re: #193 iceweasel
I didn't get paranoid about that sort of thing until.....well....a gay man made a pass at me.
/I found the whole thing awkward and he was upset at my not being gay.
209 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:12:03am |
re: #202 Catttt
Well, he's mentioned a wife "Sarah" somewhere, and kids - don't remember how many.
Found a reference, he has a wife and three kids.
210 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:12:52am |
re: #207 Catttt
Oh - maybe he was using that new fast-food bag The Onion was talking about last week! :D
My cats say I should be in bed, so goodnight.
Good night-morning.
211 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:13:16am |
re: #205 Gus 802
"Yes, I'll have the rehydratable filet mignon, and rehydratable salad. And a Tang to drink please. Also, plenty of straws."
//
Either that or a Cream of Wheat dinner.
213 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:14:50am |
re: #203 ShanghaiEd
I'm out for now, guys. Hope to be back over the weekend. See you then.
Later Ed! take care
214 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:15:50am |
re: #190 zombie
Cool!
Google Blog search reveals about 40 more links to my report, though it's strangely incomplete -- it only seems to catch about one-third of the actual links (LGF and Michelle Malkin, for example, are not on there, nor are many others I know about). Technorati reveals more...and then there are the "secondary links" of people who don't link to me directly, but rather to some other blog's coverage of the topic.
Overall, I'm probably way past 100 links by now. Maybe the "Hundredth Blog" principle will kick in and the MSM will take notice.
i believe the 'Unpleasant Truth' rule will override that, and they will either ignore you, or out you as a purveyor of outre gay smut, based upon your previous reports.
/experienced
215 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:16:24am |
216 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:16:30am |
re: #207 Catttt
Oh - maybe he was using that new fast-food bag The Onion was talking about last week! :D
My cats say I should be in bed, so goodnight.
I'm usually at work this time of the night. My cats are looking at me right now with that "what the........" look on their faces.
217 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:16:38am |
re: #193 iceweasel
Maybe he's homophobic? I can imagine that this guy accidentally stepped on his foot or something under the table and Brooks has now blown it up into a fullblown pass.
I've known straight guys before who were utterly paranoid and convinced that gay men were hitting on them when they weren't-- and when the men supposedly hitting on them weren't even gay.
and the paranoids were actually in the closet?
218 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:17:27am |
re: #211 Soona'
We're overlooking the possibility that this sentaor could've been eating his dinner through an IV.
219 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:18:36am |
220 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:20:19am |
221 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:21:42am |
re: #197 Fenway_Nation
Dubya had his 'It's good to be the king' moment with the Women's Olympic Beach Volleyball players in Beijing last year.
I don't begrudge him for that, and I don't begrudge 0 for having a look-see at some teenage Brazilian girl who was well put-together. I will however begrudge those in the MSM who adamantly deny that 0 wasn't doing what was so obvious he was doing....
I'd like to think that the 0 and his reign could be derailed on account of his disastrous economic policies that will result in massive job losses- not taking a gander at some Brazilian boo-tay
i call bull.... start to finish.
222 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:21:53am |
re: #217 redc1c4
and the paranoids were actually in the closet?
I couldn't tell you that. Certainly one of the typical psychoanalytic explanations for that level of 'gay panic' is that they're closeted.
The two guys I'm thinking of identified as straight; at least one is married now. They weren't overtly bigoted; they supported gay rights. But they both seemed excessively paranoid about being hit on by gay men, they both seemed to have a LOT of stories about being hit on by gay men (which I found improbable for various reasons), and I had even witnessed them insisting to me someone was making a pass at them when it was abundently clear no such pass had been made. ("Did you see how that guy looked at me when he was giving me my change?" type of rant. WEIRD.)
223 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:22:35am |
224 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:22:49am |
re: #220 gmsc
Peas . . . Peas . . . Peas . . . eating Gerber's Peas . . .
/Oops, I think that was Goober's peas.
[Video]
Gobber's peas and hardtack.
//
225 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:23:19am |
re: #220 gmsc
Peas . . . Peas . . . Peas . . . eating Gerber's Peas . . .
/Oops, I think that was Goober's peas.
Burl Ives your not. ;)
226 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:24:07am |
227 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:24:18am |
re: #220 gmsc
Peas . . . Peas . . . Peas . . . eating Gerber's Peas . . .
/Oops, I think that was Goober's peas.
[Video]
"peas, peas, the musical fruit......."
228 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:24:22am |
re: #223 Fenway_Nation
Jimmy Carter has his own line of strained peas?
He's had it for years. He tried to make peas with Israel and the PLO, which didn't exactly work out. He was even called a peaNUT farmer!
230 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:25:02am |
232 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:27:05am |
234 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:31:57am |
re: #233 gmsc
Burl Ives is always good:
My dad listened to his albums so much that the rest of us in the family hid the albums so we could listen to something else. I still don't think I could make it through a complete album now.
235 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:33:29am |
re: #234 Soona'
My dad listened to his albums so much that the rest of us in the family hid the albums so we could listen to something else. I still don't think I could make it through a complete album now.
:)
That's OK, I can through in some variety:
236 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:38:31am |
re: #235 gmsc
:)
That's OK, I can
throughthrow in some variety:[Video]
237 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:40:07am |
re: #233 gmsc
Burl Ives is always good:
[Video]
Look at this image...
[Link: images.google.com...]
Does that look like Burl Ives? And in 1982?
238 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:41:53am |
re: #236 gmsc
Now that your comment has past; you through in some variety.
239 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:43:40am |
re: #237 Gus 802
Look at this image...
[Link: images.google.com...]
Does that look like Burl Ives? And in 1982?
It could be someone else named Burl Ives.
240 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:43:45am |
re: #238 Soona'
Now that your comment has past; you through in some variety.
true variety even if they are moonbats....
241 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:44:03am |
re: #237 Gus 802
Look at this image...
[Link: images.google.com...]
Does that look like Burl Ives? And in 1982?
I don't think so. Burl Ives was an old codger even back in the fifties.
242 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:44:43am |
re: #239 gmsc
It could be someone else named Burl Ives.
Yeah. It's all wrong. They even name his real wife, Dorothy Koster Paul on that image.
243 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:45:15am |
re: #241 Soona'
I don't think so. Burl Ives was an old codger even back in the fifties.
I think they bunked it up.
244 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:46:07am |
re: #237 Gus 802
Look at this image...
[Link: images.google.com...]
Does that look like Burl Ives? And in 1982?
In 1892, maybe. In 1982, never.
245 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:47:07am |
re: #244 gmsc
In 1892, maybe. In 1982, never.
"The secret life of Burl Ives! Pictures reveal he's much younger!"
//
246 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:48:19am |
re: #245 Gus 802
"The secret life of Burl Ives! Pictures reveal he's much younger!"
//
There's two concepts you never hear together - "Burl Ives" and "scandal".
247 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:49:30am |
248 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:50:32am |
I just got here so I must ask, what is all the hub bub about Burl Ives?
249 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:50:44am |
re: #246 gmsc
There's two concepts you never hear together - "Burl Ives" and "scandal".
Nope, you don't. He lived a rather ling time, 85 years.
251 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:52:17am |
re: #248 Cannadian Club Akbar
I just got here so I must ask, what is all the hub bub about Burl Ives?
i met a man who was going to St Ives.......
252 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:53:06am |
Real quick, with all the recent celebrity deaths, it's probably time to check this site again . . .
Oh, good. He's still alive.
253 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:53:15am |
re: #248 Cannadian Club Akbar
I just got here so I must ask, what is all the hub bub about Burl Ives?
He's on a come-back.
//
255 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:54:42am |
re: #249 Gus 802
Nope, you don't. He lived a rather ling time, 85 years.
Is a ling time like a long time....maybe longer.
256 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:54:50am |
re: #252 gmsc
Real quick, with all the recent celebrity deaths, it's probably time to check this site again . . .
Oh, good. He's still alive.
Oh yeah! Ernest Borgnine is 92!
257 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:55:52am |
re: #255 Soona'
Is a ling time like a long time....maybe longer.
Me ling long time. Me get on scooter, go to Saigon.
//
259 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:56:31am |
260 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:56:38am |
re: #256 Gus 802
Oh yeah! Ernest Borgnine is 92!
He once divorced a woman because she kept claiming she was Ethel Merman.
261 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:57:49am |
re: #260 gmsc
He once divorced a woman because she kept claiming she was Ethel Merman.
Hey, looking at some obits. Drake Levin of Paul Revere and the Raiders died. Lead guitarist. 62
262 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:58:10am |
re: #257 Gus 802
Me ling long time. Me get on scooter, go to Saigon.
//
No. You go Saigon for short-time.
264 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:59:03am |
re: #256 Gus 802
Oh yeah! Ernest Borgnine is 92!
I watched The Dirty Dozen the other night. Freaking great movie.
265 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:59:04am |
re: #262 Soona'
No. You go Saigon for short-time.
Oh yeah, me go for short time Charlie. Me go see sister.
//
266 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:59:45am |
re: #260 gmsc
He once divorced a woman because she kept claiming she was Ethel Merman.
267 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:59:46am |
Won't be ling before the fruitcup makes an appearence.
/
269 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:00:06am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!
270 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:00:23am |
re: #269 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!
Yummy! Burl Ives fruitcup!
271 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:00:40am |
272 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:00:55am |
274 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:01:23am |
276 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:03:14am |
re: #273 redc1c4
with cream sauce......
/i'll pass. %-)
For some reason that brings up a disturbing picture.
277 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:03:20am |
re: #269 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet --------------------->
Help yourselves!
Hello littleoldlady and thank you.
278 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:03:28am |
re: #274 littleoldlady
gmsc! :-)
/ew
Oh, I don't know - just look what you get when you do a GIS (Google Image Search) for Burl Ives fruitcup.
279 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:03:33am |
re: #272 littleoldlady
HOW does he do it! ;-)
red! :-)
1. you gotta be awake (school starting monday is gonna put a stick in that)
2. punch off a few posts prior to the desired hack, and note the difference between the LGF hamsters and yours.
3. do the math and make adjustments.
4. compose and do the countdown.
281 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:04:11am |
re: #276 Soona'
For some reason that brings up a disturbing picture.
don;'t ask, don;t tell.....
/white smoke?
286 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:05:16am |
re: #275 Gus 802
Lee Marvin Rules!
Another dead actor. I watched "Airport" the other day, and it made me kind of sad. Most of the people in that movie aren't around anymore.
288 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:05:54am |
re: #278 gmsc
Oh, I don't know - just look what you get when you do a GIS (Google Image Search) for Burl Ives fruitcup.
kiddie pr0n hentai floats your boat?
/white smoke
289 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:06:00am |
re: #279 redc1c4
1. you gotta be awake
3. do the math and make adjustments.
Right there you lost me.
/epic fail! ;-)
290 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:06:45am |
re: #286 Soona'
Another dead actor. I watched "Airport" the other day, and it made me kind of sad. Most of the people in that movie aren't around anymore.
I know. It's sad. Every time I watch some of the greatest movies ever made. Only to see that most all have passed on except for maybe some of the child actors.
291 | Gus Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:07:18am |
293 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:09:42am |
re: #291 Gus 802
A regular song and dance man.
/Maybe not.
I don't know . . . if he and Clint Eastwood had teamed up more, I think they could've had a nice musical career going.
294 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:09:45am |
re: #278 gmsc
Oh, I don't know - just look what you get when you do a GIS (Google Image Search) for Burl Ives fruitcup.
Hmmmmm.
297 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:11:42am |
re: #289 littleoldlady
Right there you lost me.
/epic fail! ;-)
good thing you're so cute then, ain't it?
ugly bastids like me have to do things the hard way.
298 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:13:25am |
299 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:13:37am |
300 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:14:03am |
Ignore the moonbat, pay attention to the Dr. Gerardine G. Botte episodes.
/she's about to rock your energy world with urine power, theoretically within six months
301 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:14:50am |
re: #297 redc1c4
good thing you're so cute then, ain't it?
ugly bastids like me have to do things the hard way.
Little secret: LGF is running off servers whose time is set by the time servers at time.apple.com. Set your system clock to contact that server and get the time for your time zone, and you'll be on the second with no adjustments needed.
302 | srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:15:31am |
re: #299 Soona'
Good morning. Don't think I've met you. I'm Soona'
I've seen you around, I think, but I don't believe we've "met" yet.....
Nice to meet ya = )
303 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:16:20am |
re: #300 Killian Bundy
[Video]
Ignore the moonbat, pay attention to the Dr. Gerardine G. Botte episodes.
/she's about to rock your energy world with urine power, theoretically within six months
p=mc2?
304 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:18:21am |
re: #300 Killian Bundy
Ignore the moonbat, pay attention to the Dr. Gerardine G. Botte episodes.
/she's about to rock your energy world with urine power, theoretically within six months
My career centers around urine. As a matter of fact, I've probably seen more urine than anyone here.
306 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:20:19am |
re: #305 littleoldlady
Hmmmmm...
Yep. Take a look at my "Today In History" posts. Almost every one is either at XX:00:00 or XX:00:01 (XX varies depending on your time zone).
307 | srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:22:18am |
re: #306 gmsc
Yep. Take a look at my "Today In History" posts. Almost every one is either at XX:00:00 or XX:00:01 (XX varies depending on your time zone).
not to pick nits....but all the times show up as Pacific time.....even though it's 4am here, everything is stamped 2:xx:xx.....
308 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:22:27am |
re: #306 gmsc
Yep. Take a look at my "Today In History" posts. Almost every one is either at XX:00:00 or XX:00:01 (XX varies depending on your time zone).
You have a lot of time to kill, don't you?
309 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:23:33am |
re: #308 Soona'
You have a lot of time to kill, don't you?
Let's put it this way: I've memorized 400 digits of Pi.
In other words, not only do I have no life, I can even prove it mathematically!
310 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:23:55am |
re: #301 gmsc
Little secret: LGF is running off servers whose time is set by the time servers at time.apple.com. Set your system clock to contact that server and get the time for your time zone, and you'll be on the second with no adjustments needed.
and where's the f'ing sport in that?
311 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:24:26am |
re: #306 gmsc
I hearted that for later. (If I can figure it out.) I'm currently operating with a combination of information overload (which merely gives me a headache) and paperwork overload (which makes me nauseous).
/blech
Makes me want to go and clean my kitchen or do some laundry.
/which only gives me a backache
OY! I'm such a mess! :-(
312 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:24:30am |
re: #306 gmsc
Yep. Take a look at my "Today In History" posts. Almost every one is either at XX:00:00 or XX:00:01 (XX varies depending on your time zone).
Whew! I thought I was always two hours late with my comments.
313 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:24:41am |
re: #304 Soona'
My career centers around urine. As a matter of fact, I've probably seen more urine than anyone here.
Seriously, if you look at the links:
By attaching hydrogen to another element, nitrogen, Botte and her colleagues realized that they can store hydrogen without the exotic environmental conditions, and then release it with less electricity, 0.037 Volts instead of the 1.23 Volts needed for water.
/seems like an economic breakthrough to me, the electricity input cost to unlock the hydrogen has always been the prohibitive factor
314 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:24:53am |
re: #307 srb1976
not to pick nits....but all the times show up as Pacific time.....even though it's 4am here, everything is stamped 2:xx:xx.....
Really? I figured the times were stamped for the time zone you were in. I guess I didn't see it as unusual, since I'm in the Pacific Time Zone.
315 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:25:30am |
re: #309 gmsc
Let's put it this way: I've memorized 400 digits of Pi.
In other words, not only do I have no life, I can even prove it mathematically!
:)
316 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:25:33am |
318 | ArchangelMichael Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:26:55am |
re: #309 gmsc
Let's put it this way: I've memorized 400 digits of Pi.
In other words, not only do I have no life, I can even prove it mathematically!
I've used Mathematical Induction once to prove that the guy in the car ahead of me going slow in the passing lane was in fact an idiot.
321 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:30:25am |
re: #318 ArchangelMichael
I've used Mathematical Induction once to prove that the guy in the car ahead of me going slow in the passing lane was in fact an idiot.
I was riding to work yesterday when I observed a female driver cut right in front of a pickup truck, causing him to have to drive onto the shoulder to avoid hitting her.
This evidently angered the driver enough that he hung his arm out his window and “flipped” the woman off.
“Man, that guy is stupid,” I thought to myself. I ALWAYS smile nicely and wave in a sheepish manner whenever a female does anything to me in traffic, and here’s why……….
I drive 48 miles each way every day to work. That’s 96 miles each day. Of these, 16 miles each way is bumper-to-bumper. Most of the bumper-to-bumper is on an 8 lane highway. There are 7 cars every 40 feet for 32 miles. That works out to be 982 cars every mile, or 31,424 cars.
Even though the rest of the 32 miles is not bumper to bumper, figure I pass at least another 4000 cars. That brings the number to something like 36,000 cars that I pass everyday.
Statistically, half of these are driven by females.
That’s 18,000 women drivers! In any given group of females, 1 in 28 has PMS. That’s 642. According to Cosmopolitan, 70% describe their love life as dissatisfying or unrewarding. That’s 449.
According to the National Institute of Health, 22% of all females have seriously considered suicide or homicide. That’s 98.
And 34% describe men as their biggest problem. That’s 33.
According to the National Rifle Association, 5% of all females carry weapons, and this number is increasing.
That means that EVERY SINGLE DAY, I drive past at least one female that has a lousy love life, thinks men are her biggest problem, has seriously considered suicide or homicide, has PMS, and is armed.
Flip one off? … I think not.
322 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:30:39am |
re: #318 ArchangelMichael
I've used Mathematical Induction once to prove that the guy in the car ahead of me going slow in the passing lane was in fact an idiot.
"Ever notice that everyone going slower than you is a moron, and everyone going faster than you is an idiot?"---George Carlin.
I learned that in drivers school.
323 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:31:12am |
re: #318 ArchangelMichael
I've used Mathematical Induction once to prove that the guy in the car ahead of me going slow in the passing lane was in fact an idiot.
You think that's something. I used Einstein's Theory to prove a gallon of ice cream a day will make me fat.
324 | srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:31:47am |
yay! coffee's done....
and it's finally cooled off a bit in here....hopefully we'll hear from insurance guy today...
325 | redc1c4 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:32:35am |
re: #321 gmsc
I was riding to work yesterday when I observed a female driver cut right in front of a pickup truck, causing him to have to drive onto the shoulder to avoid hitting her.
This evidently angered the driver enough that he hung his arm out his window and “flipped” the woman off.
“Man, that guy is stupid,” I thought to myself. I ALWAYS smile nicely and wave in a sheepish manner whenever a female does anything to me in traffic, and here’s why……….
I drive 48 miles each way every day to work. That’s 96 miles each day. Of these, 16 miles each way is bumper-to-bumper. Most of the bumper-to-bumper is on an 8 lane highway. There are 7 cars every 40 feet for 32 miles. That works out to be 982 cars every mile, or 31,424 cars.
Even though the rest of the 32 miles is not bumper to bumper, figure I pass at least another 4000 cars. That brings the number to something like 36,000 cars that I pass everyday.
Statistically, half of these are driven by females.
That’s 18,000 women drivers! In any given group of females, 1 in 28 has PMS. That’s 642. According to Cosmopolitan, 70% describe their love life as dissatisfying or unrewarding. That’s 449.
According to the National Institute of Health, 22% of all females have seriously considered suicide or homicide. That’s 98.
And 34% describe men as their biggest problem. That’s 33.
According to the National Rifle Association, 5% of all females carry weapons, and this number is increasing.
That means that EVERY SINGLE DAY, I drive past at least one female that has a lousy love life, thinks men are her biggest problem, has seriously considered suicide or homicide, has PMS, and is armed.
Flip one off? … I think not.
but out of all of them in LA, only one is my wife, and we drive different routes.
327 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:33:18am |
re: #323 Soona'
You think that's something. I used Einstein's Theory to prove a gallon of ice cream a day will make me fat.
"Last Sunday, I was walking past the church, when I saw the reverend come out the front door.
"I went up and asked him, 'Mass out?' He replied, 'No, but you're hat's on crooked.'"
-Minnie Pearl
328 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:33:43am |
re: #321 gmsc
I think there would be a lot less violence against women if men thought that every single woman was trained in seld-defence and was armed.
329 | srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:35:57am |
Kipling's Female of the Species
For Red and Gmsc = )
(It's not my favorite Kipling work...but probably top 10)
330 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:36:23am |
re: #329 srb1976
Kipling's Female of the Species
For Red and Gmsc = )
(It's not my favorite Kipling work...but probably top 10)
Do you like Kipling?
331 | srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:37:40am |
re: #330 gmsc
Do you like Kipling?
Absolutely....got a beautiful hard cover copy of Just So Stories to read to the Little Man....he doesn't really get the stories yet, but loves to hear them = )
332 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:39:53am |
re: #331 srb1976
Absolutely....got a beautiful hard cover copy of Just So Stories to read to the Little Man....he doesn't really get the stories yet, but loves to hear them = )
He'll get them soon enough, and in the meantime, he can get his own meaning just by the tone of your voice.
:)
333 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:40:53am |
re: #331 srb1976
Absolutely....got a beautiful hard cover copy of Just So Stories to read to the Little Man....he doesn't really get the stories yet, but loves to hear them = )
My mom read Hans Christian Anderson to me when I was a small fry.
334 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:41:41am |
re: #328 iceweasel
I think there would be a lot less violence against women if men thought that every single woman was trained in seld-defence and was armed.
My sister is armed and bitchy. I feel for the poor bastard that makes the mistake of thinking they have an easy target.
335 | srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:42:10am |
re: #332 gmsc
I like the Just So Stories for that because they were written to be read aloud....he loves the way it sounds, it adds a lot to the humor
336 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:42:32am |
Here are a few of my favorite classic poems.
(YouTube link, as they're read on video)
337 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:42:34am |
Good Morning Lizards!
How is every one today?
340 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:44:27am |
re: #328 iceweasel
I think there would be a lot less violence against women if men thought that every single woman was trained in seld-
defencedefense and was armed.
/but violent men don't think like that, so train and arm yourself so you're not a victim
341 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:44:30am |
342 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:45:08am |
344 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:45:46am |
re: #339 srb1976
Mornin' Hoops = )
Good morning....My head should hurt from last night...went out dancing....
But feel pretty good.. must be a miracle
345 | srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:46:59am |
re: #336 gmsc
Here are a few of my favorite classic poems.
(YouTube link, as they're read on video)
I love it! Harvey Keitel doing "If"! lovely = )
346 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:47:21am |
re: #344 HoosierHoops
You break dance!
/because usually it's my feet that hurt...
;-)
I'm glad you had a good time!
347 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:47:22am |
348 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:47:30am |
morning lizardia!
I'm trying to wake up.
It's not working.
Did y'all see this?
Researchers in the U.S. have proposed a new way of allocating responsibility for carbon emissions they say could solve the impasse between developed and developing countries.The Princeton researchers estimated that in 2008 half of the world's emissions came from just 700 million people.
The method sets national targets for reducing carbon emissions based on the number of high-income earners in each country, following the theory that people who earn more generate more CO2.
"It's fairer than some other ideas out there in the sense that we attribute responsibility for emission reductions based only on the number of high-emitting people in the country -- if the country has large number of people who are high-emitters then it has more work to do," said Shoibal Chakravarty, a research scholar at Princeton Environmental Institute.
When researchers at Princeton started working on the project two years ago, one of their first aims was to find a reliable way to estimate the average emissions of high-income earners.
"There's actually a very strong relationship in every country between emissions and income," Chakravarty told CNN.
"By and large for every 10 percent increase in income, the emissions from a certain person go up about six to 10 percent. This is true pretty much everywhere in the world."
Researchers based their estimates on decades of data from national statistics offices and the World Bank.
"What happens is that initially people spend their money mostly on direct use like transportation, air conditioning, heating and cooling and so on," Chakravarty said.
Fuckers
h/t Tim Blair
349 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:48:02am |
350 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:48:16am |
re: #344 HoosierHoops
Good morning....My head should hurt from last night...went out dancing....
But feel pretty good.. must be a miracle
Don't dance on your head.
352 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:49:52am |
re: #345 srb1976
I love it! Harvey Keitel doing "If"! lovely = )
Is that like Cindy Sheehan doing Emily Dickenson?
353 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:50:49am |
re: #348 wahabicorridor
Hmm....tax the rich for some enviro ponzi scheme?
Of course! I mean the 'rich' are already supposed to be paying for healthcare in this country, so why not?
354 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:50:51am |
re: #345 srb1976
I love it! Harvey Keitel doing "If"! lovely = )
Yep, except he skips the entire third stanza. It's still good, though.
I actually have 4 poem-related YouTube Playlists:
Classics
UBS ads (This is the one I posted above)
Nipsey Russell
Other Poems (Mostly comedic)
355 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:52:55am |
357 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:53:23am |
re: #340 Killian Bundy
I think there would be a lot less violence against women if men thought that every single woman was trained in seld-
defencedefense and was armed./but violent men don't think like that, so train and arm yourself so you're not a victim
Not entirely sure why you object to my spelling of defence, and chose to replace it with 'seld-defense', but, as already stated, it would be a very good idea if men expected every woman to be trained in self-defence and to be armed.
358 | srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:55:08am |
re: #357 iceweasel
I would have gone with selF defense...mostly because it looks right..
= )
359 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:55:16am |
re: #357 iceweasel
Good Morning ice...how are you doing today?
360 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:55:53am |
re: #353 Fenway_Nation
Hmm....tax the rich for some enviro ponzi scheme?
Of course! I mean the 'rich' are already supposed to be paying for healthcare in this country, so why not?
And the irony is that one of the wealthiest people around, T. Boone Pickins, tried to run the wind farm scam on us but couldn't manage to get his hands on enough of those 'rich people's taxes'.
blech.
361 | gmsc Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:56:01am |
re: #356 srb1976
There's some great stuff on those lists = )
Thanks!
On that high note, I'll say: Good night, all!
362 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:56:25am |
364 | srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:57:57am |
re: #362 iceweasel
Aside fromt he fact that I'm getting ready to go to work....I'm doing very well = )
Going through Gmasc's poetry lists....a very nice surprise this morning = )
365 | srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:58:39am |
re: #364 srb1976
Aside fromt he fact that I'm getting ready to go to work....I'm doing very well = )
Going through Gmasc's poetry lists....a very nice surprise this morning = )
Gmsc....I always want to type an A in there....but I usually catch it...damn
366 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:59:04am |
re: #364 srb1976
Aside fromt he fact that I'm getting ready to go to work....I'm doing very well = )
Going through Gmasc's poetry lists....a very nice surprise this morning = )
I'm a big fan of that Kipling poem about the Female of the Species, naturally. Also the Just So Stories....so cute that you're reading them to your little one!
367 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:59:08am |
re: #362 iceweasel
Yeah, the 'd' in there is my fault. :) PIMF! Again! How are you?
After a night of drinking and dancing the proper spelling is...
sssseeeelllllfffff dee-fence....*hick*
368 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 2:59:43am |
re: #360 wahabicorridor
And the irony is that one of the wealthiest people around, T. Boone Pickins, tried to run the wind farm scam on us but couldn't manage to get his hands on enough of those 'rich people's taxes'.
blech.
I was really disappointed when he did that. I had always thought that he was a pretty stand-up guy. Oh well.
369 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:00:53am |
For what it's worth...
[Link: schnittshow.newsradio610.com...]
370 | srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:01:15am |
re: #366 iceweasel
I'm a big fan of that Kipling poem about the Female of the Species, naturally. Also the Just So Stories....so cute that you're reading them to your little one!
Thanks, he really seems to enjoy them...esp. the elephant's child = )
Plus, they're longer than his Dr. Suess books, means he gets to stay up later = )
371 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:02:37am |
re: #351 littleoldlady
wahabi! :-)
Hi darls! So what snoo? How's the kid?
Did you see Peggy Noonan's hit piece on Sarah Palin? She lacks the "proper sense of inadequacy"?
Talk about projection.
372 | srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:04:29am |
ugh, time to get back to the salt mines = )
have a great day everyone!
373 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:05:42am |
re: #360 wahabicorridor
I think some of the Indian reservations out in California have put up wind farms in addition to casinos.
Even in these crappy times, that's alot of revenue for the tribes...
374 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:05:45am |
re: #357 iceweasel
Not entirely sure why you object to my spelling of defence.
Okay, we can have a much better relationship, and maybe I overran the reality earlier, but we don't spell defense defence in the U.S.
So, two questions, if it's not too forward, where did you learn to spell that way and where are you posting from? I mean no harm. I needled you about voting for Obama after you said you voted in every election since you were 18.
/I've had an epiphany, you indubitably have voted in every election since you turned 18, just not in U.S. elections, and I hope you'll excuse me for trying to pin you to the mat otherwise
375 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:07:44am |
re: #371 wahabicorridor
Hi darls! So what snoo? How's the kid?
Did you see Peggy Noonan's hit piece on Sarah Palin? She lacks the "proper sense of inadequacy"?
Talk about projection.
I wrote Peggy Noonan off as a East/West coast elitist long before the last election. I hit the mute button every time I see her face on TV.
376 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:10:04am |
re: #371 wahabicorridor
Kid's good, thanks for asking. :-)
/'ceptin' she got me good yesterday; went out an got a tattoo... >:-(
My head is spinning over the spin about Palin - I cannot imagine being her!
377 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:11:39am |
re: #376 littleoldlady
Kid's good, thanks for asking. :-)
/'ceptin' she got me good yesterday; went out an got a tattoo... >:-(
My head is spinning over the spin about Palin - I cannot imagine being her!
She's proving she's as strong as she says she is, as far as I'm concerned.
378 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:11:57am |
re: #376 littleoldlady
/'ceptin' she got me good yesterday; went out an got a tattoo... >:-(
Does it at least say 'Mom'?
379 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:12:51am |
re: #373 Fenway_Nation
re: #375 Soona'
I think some of the Indian reservations out in California have put up wind farms
Really? How did they connect them to the grid? How many gigwatts are they actually generating?
re: #375 Soona'
I wrote Peggy Noonan off as a East/West coast elitist long before the last election. I hit the mute button every time I see her face on TV.
Mute? Hell, I change the channel. Even if I had never heard of her, her face says 'smug bitch'. And even if I thought what she writes is spot-on, her voice is a very obvious imitation of Jackie Onassis'.
Fraud.
380 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:12:53am |
381 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:13:15am |
re: #374 Killian Bundy
Okay, we can have a much better relationship, and maybe I overran the reality earlier, but we don't spell defense defence in the U.S.
So, two questions, if it's not too forward, where did you learn to spell that way and where are you posting from? I mean no harm. I needled you about voting for Obama after you said you voted in every election since you were 18.
/I've had an epiphany, you indubitably have voted in every election since you turned 18, just not in U.S. elections, and I hope you'll excuse me for trying to pin you to the mat otherwise
Hey Killian,
It's cool, some needling is all in good fun. It's the internet! :)
I'd rather not answer many specific personal questions about my location or much of anything else personal (no offence to you or anyone here, just general 'woman-posting-on-internet' caution; no doubt over cautious.)
Some of my education wasn't in the US, and I've lived in places other than the US.
We can fight about Obama, etc., anytime you like. :)
382 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:14:37am |
re: #376 littleoldlady
Oh, lordy. Back in our day, our moms went nuts if we went to the mall and got our ears pierced.
So, um, describe this tatoo? (And no, I ain't askin' where it's located neither)
383 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:15:25am |
re: #371 wahabicorridor
Hi darls! So what snoo? How's the kid?
Did you see Peggy Noonan's hit piece on Sarah Palin? She lacks the "proper sense of inadequacy"?
Talk about projection.
I can't stand Peggy Noonan, but she didn't indict only Palin but Palin's entire generation for lacking the proper sense of adequacy:
"The media did her in." Her lack of any appropriate modesty did her in. Actually, it's arguable that membership in the self-esteem generation harmed her. For 30 years the self-esteem movement told the young they're perfect in every way. It's yielding something new in history: an entire generation with no proper sense of inadequacy.
384 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:16:32am |
re: #380 littleoldlady
Fenway! :-)
Somehow, I doubt it.
/I refuse to look at it...
Tell me she doesn't look like this girl. And PLEASE tell me this guy didn't give the tatoo.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
385 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:16:47am |
Oh shit. One of my cats just brought in a big katydid and let it go. It's flying around my living room now.
386 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:19:02am |
re: #385 Soona'
Oh shit. One of my cats just brought in a big katydid and let it go. It's flying around my living room now.
heh. My money's on your cat............
387 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:20:57am |
re: #379 wahabicorridor
I'm not sure how that works exactly, but I think new and improved transmission lines linking the casinos and resorts with the grid would be utilized or augmented in some way. The windmills are made by GE, but the wind farm is run by some Spanish or French company....if I'm wrong about there already being existing transmission lines, then I'm not sure who's responsible for connecting the wind turbines with the grid- the tribe or the European company.
Don't get me wrong- I have nothing against wind or solar. But I don't think we should be cutting ourselves off from domestically avaiable or offshore oil and natural gas deposits because some wind turbines sprang up in the mountains or solar panels sprang up in the desert....
388 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:21:37am |
re: #386 wahabicorridor
heh. My money's on your cat............
The interim between comments have proven you right.
389 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:22:05am |
re: #382 wahabicorridor
Actually, ear piercing was the one thing my mother (European-born) DIDN'T object to. I just wasn't ever allowed out of the house.
Oh, and girdles. Remember girdles?
/veh iz mir! :-(
I think the tattoo is on her back. What it is, I don't know. I do know she paid a small fortune for it, and had better be sure not to run out of money before her next paycheck or she's outta luck.
/because The Bank of Mommy is closed!
390 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:23:08am |
re: #384 cannadian club akbar
She'd know not to come home if that were the case!
391 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:24:06am |
re: #385 Soona'
Oh shit. One of my cats just brought in a big katydid and let it go. It's flying around my living room now.
/cat'll get it, just relieving boredom
392 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:26:08am |
re: #389 littleoldlady
Actually, ear piercing was the one thing my mother (European-born) DIDN'T object to. I just wasn't ever allowed out of the house.
Oh, and girdles. Remember girdles?
/veh iz mir! :-(
I think the tattoo is on her back. What it is, I don't know. I do know she paid a small fortune for it, and had better be sure not to run out of money before her next paycheck or she's outta luck.
/because The Bank of Mommy is closed!
Women wearing girdles was a bain to every horny guy. ;)
393 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:26:30am |
re: #389 littleoldlady
Oh, and girdles. Remember girdles?
Yeah. I remember the fights I had with my mother because I refused to wear the damn things.
Panty hose saved me.
394 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:31:05am |
re: #393 wahabicorridor
All I remember was her saying, "You haf to suffer to be beautiful!"
/with her accent she sounded like the Camay commercial...
;-)
395 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:31:19am |
re: #393 wahabicorridor
Yeah. I remember the fights I had with my mother because I refused to wear the damn things.
Panty hose saved me.
Well I think your last comment just cleared up a question in my mind of whether or not you were a guy or a gal. I'm presuming your a gal. You are aren't you.........?
396 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:32:53am |
re: #393 wahabicorridor
Yeah. I remember the fights I had with my mother because I refused to wear the damn things.
Panty hose saved me.
Those 4 words may never be spoken again....In all history.
:)
397 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:41:41am |
Navy Carrier Squadron "Pump It"
/dedicated to Canadians everywhere, world record snipers in Afghanistan
398 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:43:43am |
re: #395 Soona'
Well I think your last comment just cleared up a question in my mind of whether or not you were a guy or a gal. I'm presuming your a gal. You are aren't you.........?
Indeed I am. And Dustin Hoffman deserved that Oscar for "Tootsie" just for the pain and suffering he endured.
Now that I have begun the descent into my dotage and can get away with just about anything I want to ("crazy old lady" act) - I also refuse to wear high heels anymore.
/bras are next
399 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:44:54am |
re: #397 Killian Bundy
I've seen a video of that sniper shot. Breathtaking.
400 | littleoldlady Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:48:21am |
And after that trip down Memory Lane...
Good day, ALL!™
402 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:54:16am |
re: #399 wahabicorridor
I've seen a video of that sniper shot. Breathtaking.
/pretty sure any video was after the fact, the first shot knocked a bag out of the target's hand, correct, classified number of shots later (less than three), McMillan TAC-50, U.S. match ammunition and death from 1.5 miles.
403 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:54:57am |
re: #402 Killian Bundy
/pretty sure any video was after the fact, the first shot knocked a bag out of the target's hand, correct, classified number of shots later (less than three), McMillan TAC-50, U.S. match ammunition and death from 1.5 miles.
That's incredible. Hadn't heard about any of that.
404 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:57:18am |
re: #402 Killian Bundy
I'm pretty sure it was on The Military Channel. They run sniper stuff fairly regularly.
I fired a 50 cal Barett once. I was expecting some serious recoil, but no - instead there was concussive force around my head. I should have worn a helmet.
405 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 3:58:37am |
re: #402 Killian Bundy
/pretty sure any video was after the fact, the first shot knocked a bag out of the target's hand, correct, classified number of shots later (less than three), McMillan TAC-50, U.S. match ammunition and death from 1.5 miles.
800 meters is far far away. That's just incredible.
406 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:00:00am |
re: #403 iceweasel
that was going on 7 years ago, I believe....
One of the Canadian snipers got in some trouble for sticking a cigarette in a dead jihadi's mouth and propping up a cardboard sign that said 'Fuck terrorists'
407 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:01:21am |
re: #403 iceweasel
That's incredible. Hadn't heard about any of that.
/at that distance, they're shooting yards (US) above the target, [insert long range ballistics calculations here], basically dropping the still deadly kinetically charged round on the target at a lethal angle. hey, they're professionals
408 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:04:15am |
re: #406 Fenway_Nation
that was going on 7 years ago, I believe....
One of the Canadian snipers got in some trouble for sticking a cigarette in a dead jihadi's mouth and propping up a cardboard sign that said 'Fuck terrorists'
Ya gotta love those canucks.
409 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:04:35am |
re: #407 Killian Bundy
/at that distance, they're shooting yards (US) above the target, [insert long range ballistics calculations here], basically dropping the still deadly kinetically charged round on the target at a lethal angle. hey, they're professionals
There never will be a better snipe mission than we saw with the pirates at sea.With 3 separate shots at the same time in roiling waves with a Captain hostage 2 feet away...
just incredible
410 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:05:27am |
re: #408 Soona'
Defecating on one of the Taliban corpses was a nice touch, too!
411 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:05:57am |
412 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:08:09am |
Killing shot made at distance of 2,430 metres
/if you look into it, these heroes were not treated well when they retured home to Canada
413 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:08:10am |
re: #411 Fenway_Nation
Nah. My story would be that the taliban shit himself on the outside.
414 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:11:33am |
re: #412 Killian Bundy
Killing shot made at distance of 2,430 metres
/if you look into it, these heroes were not treated well when they retured home to Canada
Really? That's awful! I didn't know any of that.
Then again, I don't know much about Canada or Canadian politics or attitudes to the war; I have a couple of friends there and I'll have to ask them.
415 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:11:41am |
re: #413 Soona'
re: #411 Fenway_Nation
Nah. My story would be that the taliban shit himself on the outside.
"We'll see what the fellas at the lab have to say about that!"
/CSI Moose Jaw
re: #412 Killian Bundy
That's how I first heard about the alleged corpse defecation.
/not gonna lose any sleep over that.
416 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:13:09am |
re: #409 HoosierHoops
There never will be a better snipe mission than we saw with the pirates at sea.With 3 separate shots at the same time in roiling waves with a Captain hostage 2 feet away...
just incredible
/that was coordinated, perfectly professional, the beauty of the simultaneous shots, the distance was point blank, less than 50'. the lifeboat was being towed, go, go, go
417 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:14:33am |
re: #415 Fenway_Nation
"We'll see what the fellas at the lab have to say about that!"
/CSI Moose Jaw
re: #412 Killian Bundy
That's how I first heard about the alleged corpse defecation.
/not gonna lose any sleep over that.
Ha at CSI Moosejaw!
Frankly, corpse desecration happens in every single war. It's inevitable.
418 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:16:09am |
re: #414 iceweasel
Really? That's awful! I didn't know any of that.
/Arron Perry, do you want warriors or not?
419 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:17:36am |
re: #417 iceweasel
Ha at CSI Moosejaw!
Frankly, corpse desecration happens in every single war. It's inevitable.
I certainly saw it in Vietnam. But I didn't lose any sleep over that either.
420 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:17:55am |
re: #416 Killian Bundy
/that was coordinated, perfectly professional, the beauty of the simultaneous shots, the distance was point blank, less than 50'. the lifeboat was being towed, go, go, go
1st Platoon got ambushed in Fallujah once..Terrorists snipers in a building..
I saw the pics on a thumb drive... They used women and children as human shields and everyone was killed... including one baby...
Those pictures haunt me late at night...
421 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:22:00am |
re: #420 HoosierHoops
1st Platoon got ambushed in Fallujah once..Terrorists snipers in a building..
I saw the pics on a thumb drive... They used women and children as human shields and everyone was killed... including one baby...
Those pictures haunt me late at night...
Unfortunately, that's what has to happen to discourage those inhuman bastards from using women and children as shields.
423 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:23:02am |
re: #384 cannadian club akbar
Tell me she doesn't look like this girl. And PLEASE tell me this guy didn't give the tatoo.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
Turns out this girl was lying about the whole thing. She's since recanted her story about falling asleep and being savaged by an insane tattooist, and has admitted that she got exactly what she asked for, then had a change of heart after the fact and concocted her story.
Tattoo Guy, on the other hand, has no excuse.
424 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:23:17am |
re: #417 iceweasel
They just nailed Taliban fighters from a record-setting distance in direct support of American infantry during Operation Anaconda.
They'd get a pass from me. In fact....I'd probably send 'em out as often as I could to see if they could provide the lanscape w/more Taliban corpses. Make sure Corpral Furlong had some smokes, too....as long as he came back with an empty carton.
425 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:24:03am |
re: #419 Soona'
I certainly saw it in Vietnam. But I didn't lose any sleep over that either.
In a way I'm opposed to the idea of trying to bring charges against people who do it. I think it's such an awful situation and people are under pressures that civilians can't understand....plus, it has happened in every single war, ever.
Even in the Illiad, Achilles desecrates Hektor's corpse by dragging it behind his chariot. He keeps it for days before turning it over to Hektor's father Priam for funeral rites.
Even in wars where we think such things didn't happen, like the Revolutionary War-- they did.
Depersonalising the enemy is one of the requirements for being able to kill them, and the desecration of corpses is a logical extension of that mindset.
426 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:24:50am |
re: #420 HoosierHoops
1st Platoon got ambushed in Fallujah once..Terrorists snipers in a building..
I saw the pics on a thumb drive... They used women and children as human shields and everyone was killed... including one baby...
Those pictures haunt me late at night...
Very good book re: the battle for Fallujah by someone who actually fought it.
gotta hop - dog needs her meds.
427 | Fenway_Nation Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:25:08am |
Well.....time I headed in, lizards.
G'nite!
428 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:25:54am |
429 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:27:15am |
re: #420 HoosierHoops
1st Platoon got ambushed in Fallujah once..Terrorists snipers in a building..
I saw the pics on a thumb drive... They used women and children as human shields and everyone was killed... including one baby...
Those pictures haunt me late at night...
Ammunition downrange doesn't discriminate.
/in combat, you either live or die and there's no ROE that says you have to die
430 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:27:40am |
re: #423 SixDegrees
Tatoo guy also offered to pay half for the removal of the tats. When she fessed up, he withdrew the offer. And rightfully so.
431 | laZardo Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:30:01am |
So I fell asleep on this lazy Saturday afternoon. @_@
What's going on?
432 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:30:09am |
re: #425 iceweasel
In a way I'm opposed to the idea of trying to bring charges against people who do it. I think it's such an awful situation and people are under pressures that civilians can't understand....plus, it has happened in every single war, ever.
Even in the Illiad, Achilles desecrates Hektor's corpse by dragging it behind his chariot. He keeps it for days before turning it over to Hektor's father Priam for funeral rites.
Even in wars where we think such things didn't happen, like the Revolutionary War-- they did.
Depersonalising the enemy is one of the requirements for being able to kill them, and the desecration of corpses is a logical extension of that mindset.
In war a corpse is a corpse, of course of course.
434 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:31:07am |
re: #421 Soona'
Unfortunately, that's what has to happen to discourage those inhuman bastards from using women and children as shields.
But at such a price....I've sat on a beach drinking beer at Oceanside with 1st platoon and listened to the stories....
I'm proud my son went to war against our enemies...He is a bad ass Marine..
I'm sorry for him that he will live the rest of his life knowing he had to kill human shields in a fire fight... I hate them for that....I know deep inside there are some Marines that hurt inside...I know for a fact...But hero's never show weakness right? I'm a proud Marine dad..
435 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:31:51am |
re: #430 Cannadian Club Akbar
Tatoo guy also offered to pay half for the removal of the tats. When she fessed up, he withdrew the offer. And rightfully so.
/rare blog pimp, but it gets his all day long, weeks later
436 | laZardo Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:32:59am |
re: #435 Killian Bundy
1 more star and she could've celebrated the Fourth of July in style. q;
437 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:33:07am |
438 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:36:36am |
President Hopeandchange stopped in Ghana. And since he didn't go to Kenya, WorldNutDaily is going bonkers.
439 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:37:37am |
re: #434 HoosierHoops
But at such a price....I've sat on a beach drinking beer at Oceanside with 1st platoon and listened to the stories....
I'm proud my son went to war against our enemies...He is a bad ass Marine..
I'm sorry for him that he will live the rest of his life knowing he had to kill human shields in a fire fight... I hate them for that....I know deep inside there are some Marines that hurt inside...I know for a fact...But hero's never show weakness right? I'm a proud Marine dad..
Even heroes hurt; they're heroes because of their humanity, not in spite of it.
I'm grateful to you and your son for everything he's done, and I'm sure he got his code of honour and his courage from his parents even before he enlisted.
Hugs, hoops!
440 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:37:45am |
The sun's almost up. I must retire to my dark place. Nice visiting with all of you.
441 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:39:31am |
re: #440 Soona'
The sun's almost up. I must retire to my dark place. Nice visiting with all of you.
442 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:41:55am |
re: #438 Cannadian Club Akbar
President Hopeandchange stopped in Ghana. And since he didn't go to Kenya, WorldNutDaily is going bonkers.
/trying to figure out whether his ancestors (he is not descendant from slaves) enslaved his wife's ancestors
443 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:44:01am |
445 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:48:06am |
re: #439 iceweasel
{ice}
When Jordan got home from Iraq i was blogging at justoneminute... and a couple bloggers got together and bought pizza one night for us at the beach house....I met Steve Wright ex-NFL player that spends his retirement spending time with returning Marines from war helping them with words of strength and comfort.. There are many heros
446 | Soona' Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:48:13am |
re: #441 Killian Bundy
Thanks. Even though 1975 was the start of missing out on a lot of music. Okay. I'm really out of here now.
447 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:49:32am |
re: #445 HoosierHoops
{ice}
When Jordan got home from Iraq i was blogging at justoneminute... and a couple bloggers got together and bought pizza one night for us at the beach house....I met Steve Wright ex-NFL player that spends his retirement spending time with returning Marines from war helping them with words of strength and comfort.. There are many heros
That's awesome!
I didn't know you blogged there; I read that blog occasionally. I like it!
448 | songbird Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:50:35am |
Good morning, Lizards. I need to get the coffee perking and the bacon popping. Dear Mr. Songbird is snoozing on the livingroom floor in front of his laptop....WWII program long over and I haven't the heart to give him a little kick to wake him up.
Hope your days have started wonderfully!
449 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:51:49am |
re: #438 Cannadian Club Akbar
President Hopeandchange stopped in Ghana. And since he didn't go to Kenya, WorldNutDaily is going bonkers.
Oh lord. Do I have to go over to WingNut Daily, or can I persuade you to give us the run-down? Please?
450 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:55:42am |
451 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:56:34am |
re: #449 iceweasel
Oh lord. Do I have to go over to WingNut Daily, or can I persuade you to give us the run-down? Please?
Depends if you like to laugh. About the first 6 stories are nirther stories along with the BREAKING NEWS banner next to them. No, don't bother. But ya gotta keep up on the crazies. Both sides.
452 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:57:54am |
re: #451 Cannadian Club Akbar
Depends if you like to laugh. About the first 6 stories are nirther stories along with the BREAKING NEWS banner next to them. No, don't bother. But ya gotta keep up on the crazies. Both sides.
I suppose they'll be formulating all sorts of interesting stories about President Oedipus now.
453 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:58:42am |
re: #447 iceweasel
That's awesome!
I didn't know you blogged there; I read that blog occasionally. I like it!
That's where I got started....Well it's a long story... I saw a sundance movie blog wars 2 about Firedoglake.. It got me excited about blogging...So i started there....But....I realized..holy cow...And started moving away closer to who i am.. I like Tom over at justoneminute and i love the posters but you kindof got to be a lawyer or really fucking smart to post there...I mean Tom got linked this week at wall street journal...I really respect those folks...But the hoopster was way over his head.....I read LGF and it took for ever to get in....:)
Good morning Lizards! Wake up!
454 | laZardo Sat, Jul 11, 2009 4:59:26am |
#Iranelection on Twitter pointed me to this AlJazeera documentary on the protests. What do you think?
455 | Erik The Red Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:01:44am |
Morning Lizards. Hope all of you have a great weekend.
456 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:02:09am |
re: #452 SixDegrees
I suppose they'll be formulating all sorts of interesting stories about President Oedipus now.
I have seen headlines that basically said soldiers wouldn't go into battle because O wasn't really the Prez. Sad when someone drags our military into such bullshit to sell a fucking bumper sticker.
457 | songbird Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:02:51am |
re: #455 Erik The Red
Morning Lizards. Hope all of you have a great weekend.
Thank you. We are planning to go to Gettysburg today, even though rain is planned for this afternoon.
458 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:03:44am |
re: #455 Erik The Red
Morning Lizards. Hope all of you have a great weekend.
Hey bro....Muggy and overcast...Need sun...Where the hell is Al Gore when you need him?
459 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:04:43am |
A disturbing update on the Illinois cemetery story - parents of dead children can't find any of their graves in a section set aside for children and infants.
There aren't fires in Hell hot enough.
Sounds like the police are being exceptionally thorough. These bastards need to be charged and sentenced on every single count individually and consecutively.
460 | laZardo Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:05:11am |
re: #458 HoosierHoops
"You can't have sun at this time...otherwise you'll wake up floating next to your house after global warming ruins your neighborhood!"
/ q:
461 | Erik The Red Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:06:54am |
re: #458 HoosierHoops
Hey bro....Muggy and overcast...Need sun...Where the hell is Al Gore when you need him?
Same here in Florida. At my aunts house and planning on doing burwts on the bbq. We may need an umbrella later this afternoon.
462 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:08:15am |
re: #453 HoosierHoops
Firedoglake. It got me excited about blogging...So i started there
/and you show your face in polite company?
463 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:10:34am |
re: #451 Cannadian Club Akbar
Depends if you like to laugh. About the first 6 stories are nirther stories along with the BREAKING NEWS banner next to them. No, don't bother. But ya gotta keep up on the crazies. Both sides.
I do try to keep up on both. Being a lefty I spend more time monitoring and mocking the crazy right, but that's partly because there are many snarky lefty blogs that do nothing at all but mock some of the really wacky right blogs. I don't know of anything similar happening on the right. The left just owns a lot more of the blogosphere than the right does, just like the right owns talk radio.
I pretty much know where the crazy is on the left (DU, kos comments, huffpo comments) and it just isn't as interesting. Partly because they're quieter now that we have a Dem admin, etc.
464 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:12:17am |
re: #462 Killian Bundy
/and you show your face in polite company?
Firedoglake?
/[expletive deleted], even Killgore won't troll that before Stormfront
465 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:14:10am |
re: #462 Killian Bundy
/and you show your face in polite company?
Firedoglake hosts several blogs, one of which I think a lot of people here would like: Attackerman. Spencer Ackerman blogs about defence and national security. He's a lefty, but he's pro-troops, and he has no problem ripping Obama viciously.
Plus he has good taste in music. "National Security. Iraq. Punk Rock. Real Talk." is his tagline.
I think people here would like reading him, or at least find him an excellent source of info (he always provides sources)
[Link: attackerman.firedoglake.com...]
466 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:15:05am |
re: #463 iceweasel
I do try to keep up on both. Being a lefty I spend more time monitoring and mocking the crazy right, but that's partly because there are many snarky lefty blogs that do nothing at all but mock some of the really wacky right blogs. I don't know of anything similar happening on the right. The left just owns a lot more of the blogosphere than the right does, just like the right owns talk radio.
I pretty much know where the crazy is on the left (DU, kos comments, huffpo comments) and it just isn't as interesting. Partly because they're quieter now that we have a Dem admin, etc.
I actually have friends on both sides. I generally sit and listen. Sometimes I will make snarky comments about both sides and get them to argue with each other. Not very nice, but keeps me entertained.
467 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:15:21am |
re: #462 Killian Bundy
/and you show your face in polite company?
Thats the first place i ever blogged...That was several years ago....It has been a journey...
The most important lesson I have learned is to be true to yourself.....
468 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:17:15am |
re: #464 Killian Bundy
Firedoglake?
/[expletive deleted], even Killgore won't troll that before Stormfront
Again, there is the main site, FDL, and then there are the other sites FDL hosts by other bloggers. Some of them are worth reading, and spencer ackerman's in particular I think many vets here and parents of troops would like.
FDL itself is also a group blog; some of the people there are worth reading and some not.
But I'd stay out of the comments; they're really annoying.
469 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:19:19am |
re: #465 iceweasel
Firedoglake hosts several blogs, one of which I think a lot of people here would like: Attackerman. Spencer Ackerman blogs about defence and national security. He's a lefty, but he's pro-troops, and he has no problem ripping Obama viciously.
Plus he has good taste in music. "National Security. Iraq. Punk Rock. Real Talk." is his tagline.
I think people here would like reading him, or at least find him an excellent source of info (he always provides sources)
[Link: attackerman.firedoglake.com...]
You think so?
/lowest of the low, ask Charles about it
470 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:20:51am |
re: #468 iceweasel
Again, there is the main site, FDL, and then there are the other sites FDL hosts by other bloggers. Some of them are worth reading, and spencer ackerman's in particular I think many vets here and parents of troops would like.
FDL itself is also a group blog; some of the people there are worth reading and some not.
But I'd stay out of the comments; they're really annoying.
Well when i saw the movie blog wars 2 i started blogging there about 3 years ago...You have to start somewhere to go somewhere.. I went through a series of blogs to arrive here....
471 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:23:03am |
re: #468 iceweasel
Again, there is the main site, FDL, and then there are the other sites FDL hosts by other bloggers. Some of them are worth reading, and spencer ackerman's in particular I think many vets here and parents of troops would like.
FDL itself is also a group blog; some of the people there are worth reading and some not.
But I'd stay out of the comments; they're really annoying.
Two words, Jane Hamsher
/are you [expletive deleted] seriously kidding?
472 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:26:25am |
THIS IS A DRIVE-BY PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT FOR U.S. VETERANS
'Sit! Stay! Snuggle!': An Iraq Vet Finds His Dog Tuesday
Tuesday is a so-called psychiatric-service dog, a new generation of animals trained to help people whose suffering is not physical, but emotional. They are, effectively, Seeing Eye dogs for the mind.
Tuesday is with Mr. Montalvan at all hours. Taught to recognize changes in a person's breathing, perspiration or scent that can indicate an imminent panic attack, Tuesday can keep Mr. Montalvan buffered from crowds or deliver a calming nuzzle. Other dogs, typically golden retrievers, Labradors or Labrador retriever blends, are trained to wake masters from debilitating nightmares and to help patients differentiate between hallucinations and reality by barking if a real person is nearby.
more at the link...........
473 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:26:42am |
re: #469 Killian Bundy
You think so?
/lowest of the low, ask Charles about it
I don't need to ask anyone about it. I already know FDL. I already have an opinion on FDL formed by experience.
I've already pointed out to you that in addition to being a group blog, FDL hosts other blogs, and I've linked to one blog they host which is excellent, and would be considered excellent by the vast majority of posters here who care about the military, if they read it.
I already said this, but obviously it needs repeating: FDL is a group blog; not everyone who posts there is worth reading; the comments are generally not useful
And FDL ALSO HOSTS blogs by others; these are separate entities.
474 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:27:31am |
re: #471 Killian Bundy
Two words, Jane Hamsher
/are you [expletive deleted] seriously kidding?
LOL Listen. I started there...But i soon realized these fuckers are crazy and moved on..But when Jane got sick with Cancer I prayed and pulled for her...
It's ironic the first post I ever made was at FDL...I lost my blog virginity to Jane....
475 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:29:05am |
Good Morning All. The sun is finally out in Maine YAY
476 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:29:24am |
re: #471 Killian Bundy
I caught that skank on MSNBC the other day talking about health care reform. My hair ignited.
iceweasel, check this out
Jane Hamsher's Blackface Disgrace
The woman gives pigs a bad name.
gotta go, busy day.......
477 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:29:58am |
re: #473 iceweasel
I don't need to ask anyone about it. I already know FDL. I already have an opinion on FDL formed by experience.
I've already pointed out to you that in addition to being a group blog, FDL hosts other blogs, and I've linked to one blog they host which is excellent, and would be considered excellent by the vast majority of posters here who care about the military, if they read it.
I already said this, but obviously it needs repeating: FDL is a group blog; not everyone who posts there is worth reading; the comments are generally not useful
And FDL ALSO HOSTS blogs by others; these are separate entities.
/well, good luck, you've picked your poison
479 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:31:21am |
re: #474 HoosierHoops
LOL Listen. I started there...But i soon realized these fuckers are crazy and moved on..But when Jane got sick with Cancer I prayed and pulled for her...
It's ironic the first post I ever made was at FDL...I lost my blog virginity to Jane....
Don't be bullied into apologising, Hoops. FDL is a very active community; if it encouraged you to start blogging and commenting that's one benefit for which they surely should be praised by all. :)
480 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:32:29am |
re: #477 Killian Bundy
/well, good luck, you've picked your poison
Not at all. How many times does it have to be said that FDL IS A GROUP BLOG?
Jane Hamsher founded it, she is NOT the only person blogging there.
481 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:32:41am |
re: #479 iceweasel
Don't be bullied into apologising, Hoops. FDL is a very active community; if it encouraged you to start blogging and commenting that's one benefit for which they surely should be praised by all. :)
/good thinking, why are you still here?
482 | wahabicorridor Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:32:52am |
483 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:33:52am |
re: #476 wahabicorridor
I caught that skank on MSNBC the other day talking about health care reform. My hair ignited.
iceweasel, check this out
Jane Hamsher's Blackface Disgrace
The woman gives pigs a bad name.
gotta go, busy day.......
See my 480. Jane Hamsher does not = FDL.
Have a great day! hope it wont be too busy, or at least that you get everything done.
484 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:34:02am |
re: #480 iceweasel
Not at all. How many times does it have to be said that FDL IS A GROUP BLOG?
Jane Hamsher founded it, she is NOT the only person blogging there.
/keep it up
485 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:34:36am |
re: #482 wahabicorridor
Oh bullshit.
Really? You think Hoops being a member of the internet community is a bad thing?
That's bullshit.
486 | Erik The Red Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:34:43am |
Anyone here have an iPhone? I have a question to ask.
487 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:35:08am |
488 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:36:56am |
re: #479 iceweasel
Don't be bullied into apologising, Hoops. FDL is a very active community; if it encouraged you to start blogging and commenting that's one benefit for which they surely should be praised by all. :)
LOL I haven't been there in 3 years....You have to start a journey with one step..FDL was my first step in a long trip... I have found a home here....
489 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:38:55am |
re: #487 iceweasel
Are you hoping to get deleted again for being nasty to people?
Wouldn't be the first time I've been deleted, did you tell on me?
Well damn, I've seen a lot of things here at LGF.
/but shilling for FDL wasn't even in the same universe
490 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:39:10am |
re: #488 HoosierHoops
LOL I haven't been there in 3 years....You have to start a journey with one step..FDL was my first step in a long trip... I have found a home here....
We all have to start somewhere!
I've never been a fan or regular reader of FDL. Some of their satellite blogs are good-- Attackerman is good. He's been following all of the civil liberties abuses of the Obama admin, which I appreciate.
491 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:40:58am |
492 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:42:21am |
re: #489 Killian Bundy
Wouldn't be the first time I've been deleted, did you tell on me?
Well damn, I've seen a lot of things here at LGF.
/but shilling for FDL wasn't even in the same universe
No one is 'shilling' for FDL.
You attacked hoops for ever having posted there. I defended him.
I also pointed out you are, and remain, completely ignorant about FDL.
493 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:43:34am |
re: #492 iceweasel
No one is 'shilling' for FDL.
You attacked hoops for ever having posted there. I defended him.
I also pointed out you are, and remain, completely ignorant about FDL.
/really?
494 | Erik The Red Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:44:21am |
re: #491 reine.de.tout
I have one
Hey reine. Where in iTunes do I find my iPhone back up and how and where can I down load new ring tones? Thanks :)
495 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:48:36am |
re: #493 Killian Bundy
/really?
Given that you don't realise that Jane Hamsher doesn't write the whole blog, and you don't realise that FDL also hosts blogs by completely independent bloggers who have nothing to do with FDL, and you don't realise that they host one blogger who is very pro-troops, very critical of Obama, and very thorough, who most military people here would like-- yes, I'd say you know almost nothing about FDL.
496 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:54:36am |
re: #494 Erik The Red
Hey reine. Where in iTunes do I find my iPhone back up and how and where can I down load new ring tones? Thanks :)
Erik -
When you are in iTunes, plug your phone in (like you would with your iPod).
It takes a minute or two, but your iPhone will show up on the left (like your iPod would). Click once on the iPhone, and you will get to a page with several tabs where you can set your back-up preferences. I have turned OFF the automatic back-up, so I have to select what it is I am 'backing up".
You won't be able to see the information you are backing up, but it's there - when I lost all my contacts from my outlook, I was able to restore them by hooking up my iPhone and putting everything there.
The ring-tone thing is strange. First, you find a song in iTunes that you want to set as your ring-tone. The ones that have a little icon next to them are the ones that are available. In iTunes, search "iPhone ringtones" and you should get instructions.
YOu have to select one of those particular ones then, I think, you have to click on the icon. At some point, you get a an option "Buy ringtone", choose it. At tthe bottom of the screen, you will be able to select exactly which portion of the track you want to use as your ringtone; then you "buy" it, update your phone's "ringtones" to put that tone on there; then go to settings to set that as your ringtone.
The ringtone thing is weird, not intuitive (unless you are 10) and I had to get help with it from my daughter. Even after seeing how she did it, I still had difficulty. I suggest that you search and find the instructions and if that doesn't help you, go to the apple store nearest you.
Do you have my e-mail address? Go to the cookbook blog and get it if you don't (click my nic), or contact me thru facebook e-mail or instant messenger. If you do IM, I can hook up my phone and walk you through it easier.
497 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:56:19am |
re: #495 iceweasel
Given that you don't realise that Jane Hamsher doesn't write the whole blog, and you don't realise that FDL also hosts blogs by completely independent bloggers who have nothing to do with FDL, and you don't realise that they host one blogger who is very pro-troops, very critical of Obama, and very thorough, who most military people here would like-- yes, I'd say you know almost nothing about FDL.
/hey, when Charles add s FireDogLke, it will be a day indeed, a sad day, but a day indeed
498 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 11, 2009 5:59:27am |
re: #496 reine.de.tout
There is a cookbook blog?
499 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:00:38am |
re: #497 Killian Bundy
/hey, when Charles add s FireDogLke, it will be a day indeed, a sad day, but a day indeed
I don't expect Charles to add them. I don't even read them myself, or like them particularly.
People should check out Attackerman's blog occasionally though. His site is hosted by FDL but it's independent of FDL. If you want good criticisms of Obama from the left, from a position that is strongly pro-troops and informed about national defence, go there.
[Link: attackerman.firedoglake.com...]
Also, there's the good taste in music. :)
500 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:04:27am |
re: #499 iceweasel
I don't expect Charles to add them. I don't even read them myself, or like them particularly.
People should check out Attackerman's blog occasionally though. His site is hosted by FDL but it's independent of FDL. If you want good criticisms of Obama from the left, from a position that is strongly pro-troops and informed about national defence, go there.
[Link: attackerman.firedoglake.com...]
Also, there's the good taste in music. :)
/tell us more
501 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:05:07am |
OK Lizards.. No fighting this morning..I'm sitting on the deck on a lazy morning... I said I lost my virginity 3 years ago when I made my first post at FDL...Let's all calm down...KB.Ice...Sorry..
502 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:05:27am |
503 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:06:35am |
re: #501 HoosierHoops
OK Lizards.. No fighting this morning..I'm sitting on the deck on a lazy morning... I said I lost my virginity 3 years ago when I made my first post at FDL...Let's all calm down...KB.Ice...Sorry..
All is cool here, honey, no worries.
tell us about your lovely deck and your lovely morning!
505 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:08:25am |
re: #502 iceweasel
I knew it. You love me, just admit it.
Yes, I love you,
/now comment more bull[expletive deleted]
506 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:09:36am |
re: #503 iceweasel
All is cool here, honey, no worries.
tell us about your lovely deck and your lovely morning!
It's warm and overcast here...Waiting for the sun....
Little Winston is chasing bees in the yard...He is so going to regret catching one...:)
507 | Truck Monkey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:11:28am |
Ogabe is on TV right now preaching to the Africans in Ghana. Gotta tell ya. He is making some really good points and saying some things that probably he could only say based on his background.
508 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:12:29am |
509 | Kronocide Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:14:23am |
re: #507 Truck Monkey
Yes, well... AA's can call other AA's the N-word too.
What's he saying? I can't turn on the tube since Mrs is sleepy poo.
510 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:15:41am |
re: #506 HoosierHoops
It's warm and overcast here...Waiting for the sun....
Little Winston is chasing bees in the yard...He is so going to regret catching one...:)
That's adorable. :)
An ex boyfriend of mine loved bees when he was little. I think I let go and fell in love when his mother was describing to me how he would chase them around the garden and try to catch them when he was 5 or so.
511 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:16:03am |
re: #508 Killian Bundy
/I'm sorry, maybe I'm confused, are you or are you not advocating FDL at LGF?
I don't know how to say this any clearer...I made my first post there 3 years ago..I moved from there early on and finally made it here...I have never returned.....
I lost my virginity to jane...Are you still with the girl that you lost your virginity too? This all started out as a joke KB...*wink*
512 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:16:17am |
513 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:17:27am |
514 | Truck Monkey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:18:48am |
re: #509 BigPapa
Yes, well... AA's can call other AA's the N-word too.
What's he saying? I can't turn on the tube since Mrs is sleepy poo.
Covered quite a bit. Kind of a come to Jesus meeting writ large. talked about Africans doing for themselves instead of others doing for them. Corruption. Tribe against tribe violence. I am not a fan of his but this speech really worked for me.
515 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:18:56am |
re: #513 Killian Bundy
/hey, lick yourself
I got my start at Laura's Playground, and then follow Killian over to here, LGF.
[Link: www.lauras-playground.com...]
//// :)
516 | SasquatchOnSteroids Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:18:59am |
Off to buy more needless junk I may or may not use but will be nice to have in case I might just need it or my neighbor who never thought he'd need it will come over and borrow it, break it, and never pay me back for it because he's an asswipe who lets his dog shit in my yard and never cleans it up so I have to go put it all on a shovel and reinstall it around the base of his mailbox hoping he'll get the hint which he never does.
*breathe*
Have a lovely day.
517 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:20:01am |
re: #498 Cannadian Club Akbar
There is a cookbook blog?
Click my nic. It's inforamtion about the cookbook (the old one), a link to purchase if you want, and information about the upcoming one.
518 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:20:34am |
re: #511 HoosierHoops
I lost my virginity to jane...Are you still with the girl that you lost your virginity too? This
Not at all.
/I sincerely hope you still have no Jones for her
519 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:20:52am |
Good morning y'all - from a coolish (69 degrees going up to 86 degrees) cloudy and heavy rains predicted Charlotte!
How is everyone doing today?
520 | filetandrelease Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:21:26am |
Obama now says
'Here's a door you can walk through that allows you to lessen tensions and more fully join the international community.' "
The open fist metaphor didn't work, so let's change it to an open door, surely that will get Iran to drop its' nuclear abortions. Meanwhile, Iran is going to offer the west a "package".
522 | Kronocide Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:22:35am |
re: #517 reine.de.tout
Click my nic. It's inforamtion about the cookbook (the old one), a link to purchase if you want, and information about the upcoming one.
There should be a spoof recipe for "Gamey Troll Buttocks with a Reality Glaze" or something or other.
523 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:22:52am |
re: #518 Killian Bundy
Not at all.
/I sincerely hope you still have no Jones for her
yea..Thanks...
Hi Realwest!
526 | lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:23:52am |
Morning all.
I was thrilled to see that Obama has pronounced that his Stimulus plan is "working as intended". I suppose my down the street neighbors will be moving back into their foreclosed home any day now. I'm also thrilled that the 36 employees who were recently laid off from my wife's workplace will never even miss a day.
Thanks, Obama, for a job well spun.
527 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:25:01am |
re: #522 BigPapa
There should be a spoof recipe for "Gamey Troll Buttocks with a Reality Glaze" or something or other.
I have 150 or so recipes collected for the newest one. some folks gave me cutesy names for their recipes; others didn't.
I had some volunteers earlier; I may have to call them in to check the recipes and come up with funny names for them.
528 | Truck Monkey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:26:00am |
re: #526 lincolntf
Morning all.
I was thrilled to see that Obama has pronounced that his Stimulus plan is "working as intended". I suppose my down the street neighbors will be moving back into their foreclosed home any day now. I'm also thrilled that the 36 employees who were recently laid off from my wife's workplace will never even miss a day.
Thanks, Obama, for a job well spun.
He has produced quite a few Czar positions. Maybe I could be declared Czar of my household and paid by the Gubmint for it......
529 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:26:20am |
re: #513 Killian Bundy
/hey, lick yourself
Back to this again? Not the first time you've said it. As i said, you looooove me.
:)
530 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:27:45am |
re: #523 HoosierHoops
Hi ya Hoops! How are you today? Getting ready to go back to work?
531 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:28:28am |
re: #519 realwest
Good Morning. I'm sorry you have rain in your forecast. I'm ecstatic we are supposed to have sun most of the day. I was beginning to think my garden was going to float away. Thank G-d for rocky soil and the foresight to put in raised beds.
532 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:29:20am |
re: #530 realwest
Hi ya Hoops! How are you today? Getting ready to go back to work?
Hey Buddy! I went back Thursday...It's a warm overcast day but I'm still going to swim some laps and eat breakfast...Hope you are well
533 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:29:38am |
re: #515 Walter L. Newton
I got my start at Laura's Playground, and then follow Killian over to here, LGF.
[Link: www.lauras-playground.com...]
//// :)
It's okay.
/relax
535 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:30:08am |
re: #531 bbuddha
Well we could use rain here (I'm in a suburb of Charlotte - about 12 miles or so away and while Charlotte had 4-5 inches on Thursday we had less than 1/2" of rain and need some badly!
Whereabouts are you that you've had so much rainfall?
536 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:31:01am |
re: #529 iceweasel
Back to this again? Not the first time you've said it. As i said, you looooove me.
:)
Was that directed at you?
/FDR awaits, why are you still here?
538 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:31:25am |
Killian -
I'm begging you to please stop.
Comments like "/hey, lick yourself", just aren't productive in any way, are they? What does that accomplish?
Please stop.
539 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:32:11am |
Has this been mentioned here on LGF. The president of the Valley Swim Club, Dr John Duesler, where the day camp children were denied access to the clubs pool, after having set up a swim day at the pool, is a Obama community supporter, as per some websites.
[Link: girdingmyloins.blogspot.com...]
I have read that a LOT of sites have "disappeared" articles and information about Duesler and his community activities with the Obama campaign and projects.
Anyone here about this?
540 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:32:56am |
re: #532 HoosierHoops
I'm doing ok my friend - getting a tad antsy about my next PSA test (blood test to see how my cancer's doing) which is scheduled for next Tuesday, results on Wednesday. I'll get much more than a tad antsy on Monday and Tuesday!
But other than that, my mouth has finally started to heal up some and I'm doing ok!
Sorry you went back to work on Thursday (was that poor planning on your part or did you lack the days to stagger through until Monday to come back?)
542 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:34:11am |
re: #535 realwest
Maine, June was a very depressing month, 21 days of rain ick
543 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:34:42am |
re: #538 reine.de.tout
Killian -
I'm begging you to please stop.Comments like "/hey, lick yourself", just aren't productive in any way, are they? What does that accomplish?
They help establish his hatred for women.
As I noted, it is not the first time he's said that to me. I doubt I'm the first person he's said it to. And I don't think he'd be saying that to me if he thought I were a man.
545 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:35:08am |
re: #538 reine.de.tout
Killian -
I'm begging you to please stop.Comments like "/hey, lick yourself", just aren't productive in any way, are they? What does that accomplish?
Please stop.
Okay.
/although you might want to review the past few hours, quite revealing and shocking, FDL gets it's LGF on
546 | Kronocide Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:36:49am |
re: #538 reine.de.tout
Comments like "/hey, lick yourself"...
Well, his avatar is a cat after all. Maybe it's a personal grooming request? Just sayin....
547 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:37:17am |
re: #543 iceweasel
They help establish his hatred for women.
As I noted, it is not the first time he's said that to me. I doubt I'm the first person he's said it to. And I don't think he'd be saying that to me if he thought I were a man.
Are you going to cry now?
/martyr cookie?
548 | Mithrax Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:39:06am |
549 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:39:34am |
re: #545 Killian Bundy
Okay.
/although you might want to review the past few hours, quite revealing and shocking, FDL gets it's LGF on
Indeed. Let's review the whole thread, and the one before it.
Let's review in particular how you APOLOGISED to me and Shanghai Ed in THIS thread-- why? because you'd already been deleted once in the prior thread for being an asshole, that's why.
And let's review, again, how FDL only came up here because you couldn't help being an asshole, yet again, -- this time to Hoops, who is pretty much the nicest, sweetest, least offensive person ever, merely because he mentioned that he first came to blogging because of FDL.
So yes, let's review. Let's review all of it.
550 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:39:41am |
re: #542 bbuddha
Maine, June was a very depressing month, 21 days of rain ick
Uh oh. That means mosquitoes the size of B-52's for y'all the rest of the Summer! I've spent more than a few days in Portland, Bangor and Lewiston - whereabouts are you in Maine?
551 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:39:52am |
re: #548 Mithrax
How about some music?
Dio - Rainbow in the Dark
[Video]
I saw him in San Jose...Awesome show!
552 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:40:09am |
re: #543 iceweasel
Killian a misogynist? Oh, please. You are not all women. Are you still smarting from his post to zombie yesterday?
553 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:40:54am |
re: #547 Killian Bundy
Are you going to cry now?
/martyr cookie?
You really, really do enjoy being a bully, don't you?
It's not just being in a bad mood, or having a bad day. You like it.
554 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:41:20am |
re: #545 Killian Bundy
Good morning Killian - how are ya doing today? And what does FDL gets it's LGF on mean! I honestly don't understand (I know, I know, so what's new! LOL).
555 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:42:07am |
re: #552 MandyManners
Killian a misogynist? Oh, please. You are not all women. Are you still smarting from his post to zombie yesterday?
Uh, i don't even think I saw it. Who are you confusing me with now? I am not all posters here whom you dislike.
556 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:42:18am |
re: #15 zombie
You know when you have a nice big sundae, and it's certainly delicious, but the one last thing that would make it perfect is a cherry on top?
Well, I just found my cherry -- the Maraschino Cherry of Hypocrisy:
John Holdren has FIVE children.
Oh, sweet irony.
Sweet find.
558 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:43:15am |
re: #548 Mithrax
How about some music?
Dio - Rainbow in the Dark
Find "Don't Talk to Strangers" and I'm there. I've seen Dio 3 times. Always a great show. Always a golden throat.
559 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:43:18am |
re: #550 realwest
Uh oh. That means mosquitoes the size of B-52's for y'all the rest of the Summer! I've spent more than a few days in Portland, Bangor and Lewiston - whereabouts are you in Maine?
The "great" capitol city. Yeah, we have more than our share of mosquitos. We tell the tourists that they are big enough to steal their poodles. but they can only do that after they suck them dry.
560 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:45:05am |
561 | Mithrax Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:45:28am |
For the classicly inclined
Bach - toccata in Fugue in D Minor
I wish my organ was that big....
562 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:46:02am |
Oh No! It's started really Thunder and lightning! Going inside...
563 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:46:57am |
Good morning from sunny Marina Del Rey........
I'm on my 13th day without a cigarette and by Raleigh's ghost I sure would like one now.
Not gonna do it....not gonna do it.
(don't have any anyway)
564 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:47:06am |
re: #557 BigPapa
[Link: www.nbcphiladelphia.com...]
Hard to backpedal from that.
No, I know that part, what happened, what he said, what he did. My point is, it appears that this guy was an active Obama supporter and worked on some community activist projects, and from what I am reading, a whole lot of info on those subject have been PULLED from websites, and the media is keeping it mum.
What I am saying, if some of what I am reading is true, this guy is a liberal, an Obama supporter and yet he had second thoughts about letting black kids swim at his club after club members started making a stink.
If what I am reading is true, then this guy is one big typical "what's good for you is not good for me."
565 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:48:08am |
re: #561 Mithrax
For the classicly inclined
Bach - toccata in Fugue in D Minor
[Video]I wish my organ was that big....
You made me laugh, as usual, and I love Bach. LOVE!
So thanks for this.
566 | Truck Monkey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:48:26am |
re: #563 Pianobuff
Good morning from sunny Marina Del Rey........
I'm on my 13th day without a cigarette and by Raleigh's ghost I sure would like one now.
Not gonna do it....not gonna do it.
(don't have any anyway)
Keep at it. I really need to quit too. What is your secret?
567 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:48:42am |
re: #563 Pianobuff
That's the way to get and stay smoke free, don't buy any. Eventually your friends won't let you bum them anymore
/my experience
568 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:49:28am |
re: #539 Walter L. Newton
Has this been mentioned here on LGF. The president of the Valley Swim Club, Dr John Duesler, where the day camp children were denied access to the clubs pool, after having set up a swim day at the pool, is a Obama community supporter, as per some websites.
[Link: girdingmyloins.blogspot.com...]
I have read that a LOT of sites have "disappeared" articles and information about Duesler and his community activities with the Obama campaign and projects.
Anyone here about this?
I hope the DoJ sticks a probe up his butt.
569 | AuntAcid Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:49:33am |
re: #564 Walter L. Newton
Could this be the guy? Scroll down a bit to see photo.
[Link: peaceactionpa.org...]
571 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:50:40am |
re: #559 bbuddha
The "great" capitol city. Yeah, we have more than our share of mosquitos. We tell the tourists that they are big enough to steal their poodles. but they can only do that after they suck them dry.
Hey, I loved the time I spent in Bangor - which was fortunately brief because for reasons unknown to me the skeeters there loved me more than the skeeters in Vietnam and I didn't think that was possible! Saw a "small town" 4th of July fireworks show there - it was wonderful - everyone sitting out on a hill, a few hustlers trying to sell some "neon" lit frizbees and all -small town Americana at it's best!
Cept for the damn mosquitos - with a party of 8, ther were a total of 10 HUGE, UGLY bites. NINE of those bites were on me - one on one other person. No lie, and most assuredly no joke.
572 | Mithrax Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:51:01am |
Rimsky-Korsikov - Schehereazade - 3rd Movement (The Prince and the Princess) Macau Orchestra.
573 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:51:06am |
re: #564 Walter L. Newton
No, I know that part, what happened, what he said, what he did. My point is, it appears that this guy was an active Obama supporter and worked on some community activist projects, and from what I am reading, a whole lot of info on those subject have been PULLED from websites, and the media is keeping it mum.
What I am saying, if some of what I am reading is true, this guy is a liberal, an Obama supporter and yet he had second thoughts about letting black kids swim at his club after club members started making a stink.
If what I am reading is true, then this guy is one big typical "what's good for you is not good for me."
Walter-- I've been following the story but I'm not up on this aspect of it yet (the deletions, etc.)
I promise you that some of my regular progressive blogs are going to be all over it.
I'll post as I find out info, but let me just say that the assessment you give in your last paragraph would NOT surprise me; I bet you're right.
574 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:51:44am |
re: #568 MandyManners
I hope the DoJ sticks a probe up his butt.
Well, see, but I am more concerned with his connection to progressive politics, and the fact that a lot of covering up is happening. We've already seen the lack of transparency in the Obama administration, and here we have, on a local level, another possible two-faced liberal who's activities and associations are being covered up.
575 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:51:54am |
re: #566 Truck Monkey
Keep at it. I really need to quit too. What is your secret?
No secret though I wish there was one. My spouse quit several months ago so there is good support (and some peer pressure too). I had two acupuncture sessions on day 1 and day 4. I have no clue whether these helped or not.
Otherwise it's been cold turkey. No butts, no gum/patch/chantix/zyban/etc....
The cravings have gone down noticeably this week, but my body feels like crap. Always tired but can't really sleep, headaches, etc. I guess that will pass though.
Good luck if you quit.
576 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:52:02am |
re: #569 AuntAcid
Could this be the guy? Scroll down a bit to see photo.
[Link: peaceactionpa.org...]
Yes, that is him.
577 | Mithrax Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:53:39am |
For the Jazz inclined - Oscar Peterson and Count Basie - Slow Blues
I met Oscar a few times when I was younger, hell of a friendly nice guy, and you'd never have guessed that he was a jazz god.
578 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:53:50am |
re: #571 realwest
Hey, I loved the time I spent in Bangor - which was fortunately brief because for reasons unknown to me the skeeters there loved me more than the skeeters in Vietnam and I didn't think that was possible! Saw a "small town" 4th of July fireworks show there - it was wonderful - everyone sitting out on a hill, a few hustlers trying to sell some "neon" lit frizbees and all -small town Americana at it's best!
Cept for the damn mosquitos - with a party of 8, ther were a total of 10 HUGE, UGLY bites. NINE of those bites were on me - one on one other person. No lie, and most assuredly no joke.
They do seem to be attracted to some people more than others. My daughter is apparently Haute cuisine for mosquitos and she welts up. I don't use regular repellant, they don't work and make my throat close up, but a bounce sheet in my hat seems to keep them at bay long enough to get most of my garden weeding done.
579 | Truck Monkey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:54:31am |
re: #570 Cathypop
$55.00 a carton is making me quit.
MD just raised the taxes so now a pack is close to $7 dollars.
580 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:54:39am |
re: #567 bbuddha
That's the way to get and stay smoke free, don't buy any. Eventually your friends won't let you bum them anymore
/my experience
So true... luckily have not purchased or bummed any yet and I'm hoping it stays that way.
Getting completely smoke-free before Obama does is my current motivation - hey whatever it takes, right?
581 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:55:43am |
re: #575 Pianobuff
spend some time in a sauna, it helps sweat the toxins out so you'll start feeling better.
582 | rightside Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:55:58am |
Good luck to all those who are trying to quit smoking. I hope you succeed in your goals.
583 | AuntAcid Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:56:10am |
re: #566 Truck Monkey
Keep at it. I really need to quit too. What is your secret?
Other than having some one smack you hard every time you fire one up, have a grave marker made with your name on it and keep it in sight. I quit only when they all started to taste like soap. Lucky me.
584 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:56:21am |
re: #554 realwest
Good morning Killian - how are ya doing today? And what does FDL gets it's LGF on mean! I honestly don't understand (I know, I know, so what's new! LOL).
I didn't understand it either, Realwest.
There are lots of discussions on these threads, which I find useful for a variety of reasons - I get information, I get a clue as to the thought processes of folks to the left of me which helps me form my discussion points with personal friends, and on some topics, where I am still trying to sort out my own thoughts, I find the different points of view interesting, informative and helpful.
There are some discussions held here where nobody's mind is going to be changed. The abortion topic is one of them; people here are very upfront about where they stand on that issue.
When I respond to someone who is "pro-choice", I know I am not going to change their mind. But there are people reading this blog who may be sitting on the fence, so to speak, looking for direction for their own decisions and opinions.
I am under no illusion that I have any great powers of persuasion or that my opinion really matters to anyone. But when I respond to a post, particularly on the abortion issue, what I write is not necessarily written for the person I am responding to, but for those people who are reading who perhaps might be touched or influenced to, say, look for an alternative to getting an abortion.
When the discussions end up in a tit-for-tat snark-fest between people who have some sort of dislike for each other - nothing productive comes from that. Nothing.
585 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:56:30am |
re: #569 AuntAcid
Could this be the guy? Scroll down a bit to see photo.
[Link: peaceactionpa.org...]
Interesting, if you put the original link for the article into your address window...
[Link: www.philly.com...]
The original article is NOW MISSING.
Gee, any wonder?
Dr. John G. Duesler Jr. worried about his job with all those WHITE COUNTRY CLUB PEOPLE.
586 | BlueCanuck Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:57:44am |
Good morning all. Nice t-storm rumbling trhough here at the moment and the rain is torrential.
587 | Mithrax Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:57:50am |
588 | Cannadian Club Akbar Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:58:30am |
re: #580 Pianobuff
So true... luckily have not purchased or bummed any yet and I'm hoping it stays that way.
Getting completely smoke-free before Obama does is my current motivation - hey whatever it takes, right?
Tell any friends that smoke not to give you one. I have had strangers ask for a smoke, then after I give them one, they tell me how they are trying to quit. I take that opportunity to grab it back and crush it.
590 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:58:41am |
re: #580 Pianobuff
That's right, whatever works. I did the cold turkey thing, smoke free for 19 years now (damn that makes me sound old)
591 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:58:45am |
re: #584 reine.de.tout
When the discussions end up in a tit-for-tat snark-fest between people who have some sort of dislike for each other - nothing productive comes from that. Nothing.
Agreed. How productive is that? It's like updinging someone who makes a comment that is nothing but an insult, for example.
592 | Bloodnok Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:59:05am |
re: #577 Mithrax
For the Jazz inclined - Oscar Peterson and Count Basie - Slow Blues
I met Oscar a few times when I was younger, hell of a friendly nice guy, and you'd never have guessed that he was a jazz god.
I could not have enjoyed that more. Thanks.
593 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:59:14am |
re: #586 BlueCanuck
Good morning all. Nice t-storm rumbling trhough here at the moment and the rain is torrential.
Good Morning! same here..Little Winston is in bed under the covers...
594 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:59:23am |
re: #573 iceweasel
Walter-- I've been following the story but I'm not up on this aspect of it yet (the deletions, etc.)
I promise you that some of my regular progressive blogs are going to be all over it.I'll post as I find out info, but let me just say that the assessment you give in your last paragraph would NOT surprise me; I bet you're right.
Well, loot up thread and you can already find at least one article that has "disappeared." The article at philly.com is gone, yet a copy of it is posted at Peace Action Pa.
[Link: peaceactionpa.org...]
And he is listed in the article as a member of a project, but if you go to the HOME PAGE of Peace Action Pa., you cannot find any links to the article or anything about him. They removed the link from thier web site but didn't erase the article from their server.
595 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:59:38am |
re: #577 Mithrax
For the Jazz inclined - Oscar Peterson and Count Basie - Slow Blues
[Video]I met Oscar a few times when I was younger, hell of a friendly nice guy, and you'd never have guessed that he was a jazz god.
Two giants. I never met Oscar myself, but from all accounts I've heard he was quite a humble guy. Extraordinary, really, considering his gifts.
Thanks for the share.
596 | lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 6:59:44am |
re: #539 Walter L. Newton
I just read the link you provided (and the links therein). There is no doubt that this guy is/was an Obama supporter (according to Obama's website).
As for the "sanitization" of the other websites, that's exactly what happened with La Raza. People take for granted that "everything" is on the Internet and if they can't find it online then it must not be true. Sadly for them, 99.999% of what happens in the real world never sees a computer screen.
598 | Mithrax Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:01:32am |
599 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:01:59am |
re: #578 bbuddha
I'd heard of the mosquito repelling qualities of Bounce sheets - so those stories are true, not urban legend!
WOW. I used a quasi-famous name repellent from a hunting store. Skeeter's apparently not only NOT attracted to it, but thought it was just YUMMY! No shit, I had honest to God nine WELTS from where those suckers bit me. Turned nice and black and blue the next day too - and all of my (unbitten) friends and relatives were laughing at me! But I took notes and the NEXT night we went out onto the lake they had their "cottage" on, I made sure to hang around with them -real close too. Next day, no bites for me, plenty for them! LOL!
Course I still hurt but it's true that misery loves company!
600 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:02:02am |
re: #588 Cannadian Club Akbar
Tell any friends that smoke not to give you one. I have had strangers ask for a smoke, then after I give them one, they tell me how they are trying to quit. I take that opportunity to grab it back and crush it.
Fortunately, there are very few friends of mine that still smoke and very few relatives as well. Right now, I'm just trying to stay clear of smokers/smoke until I have a little more time in at this.
601 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:02:04am |
602 | AuntAcid Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:03:19am |
re: #585 Walter L. Newton
Seems he's been "passing" for years.
603 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:03:37am |
re: #596 lincolntf
I just read the link you provided (and the links therein). There is no doubt that this guy is/was an Obama supporter (according to Obama's website).
As for the "sanitization" of the other websites, that's exactly what happened with La Raza. People take for granted that "everything" is on the Internet and if they can't find it online then it must not be true. Sadly for them, 99.999% of what happens in the real world never sees a computer screen.
I guess what is really a bitch is the evident lack of the MSM following up on this. If this was a conservative, they would be all over it. It is evident he was an Obama supporter, and on a local level, a community activist, yet info about him is vanishing and the MSM reports nothing about his background.
The progressives that frequent LGF, please, take a good look into this, and tell me how you can support this sort of bias reporting. Remember, some day YOU may need the support of truth and accurate reporting and you will find this sort of behavior coming back to bite you.
Progressives, remember this, and when you need the truth from your politicians, and you find it "vanishing," remember that you had warnings, like this.
604 | Mithrax Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:03:40am |
re: #597 bbuddha
wow, your tastes are seriously eclectic
Music speaks to the soul, soothes the savage beast, and stirrs the heart of a man.
three quotes, all mashed together :P
605 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:03:48am |
re: #594 Walter L. Newton
Well, loot up thread and you can already find at least one article that has "disappeared." The article at philly.com is gone, yet a copy of it is posted at Peace Action Pa.
[Link: peaceactionpa.org...]
And he is listed in the article as a member of a project, but if you go to the HOME PAGE of Peace Action Pa., you cannot find any links to the article or anything about him. They removed the link from thier web site but didn't erase the article from their server.
I was thinking that all the lefty/prog blogs focussing on issues involving people of colour are going to be all over this and will be utterly merciless. I am sure they will have screen caps and everything. I haven't checked them yet, but I'll post everything when I have the info.
606 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:04:02am |
re: #590 bbuddha
That's right, whatever works. I did the cold turkey thing, smoke free for 19 years now (damn that makes me sound old)
Congratulations and hats off. Hopefully I'll be able to say the same someday.
608 | Mithrax Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:05:40am |
Ok last one
The Watchmen - My Life is a Stereo
Saw these guys in concert my frosh week, I don't remember much as I was wasted out of my mind and in the mosh pit :P
609 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:05:44am |
re: #604 Mithrax
Music speaks to the soul, soothes the savage beast, and stirrs the heart of a man.
three quotes, all mashed together :P
I just heard the King of Leon the other day...Awesome!
610 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:06:08am |
611 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:06:43am |
re: #610 reine.de.tout
All the more reason, imo, to write a well-reasoned and perhaps influential post explaining your own position.
Except he has none. He attacked Hoops for having posted there. That's it.
612 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:07:22am |
614 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:10:43am |
re: #611 iceweasel
He attacked Hoops for having posted there. That's it.
/why don't we ask Hoosier Hoops about that
615 | lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:10:58am |
re: #605 iceweasel
The fact is that if the tables were turned, Duesler would be referred to solely as "the prominent Bush supporter who banned blacks frrom his Country Club" by the MSM. Since he's an Obamite, his politics will barely be an aside to their reportage. Multiply that example by about a million and you'll see why many of us consider their Lefty audience to be so willfully ignorant.
616 | bbuddha Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:11:25am |
well, I gotta go my chores are calling me (I hate when they do that)
617 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:11:33am |
re: #612 Killian Bundy
/not from the United States
SO WHAT. What would it matter if Iceweasel was from MARS. What the fuck is a Killian Bundy?
Really, I went to bed last night watching you attack people here for no apparent reason except some need to be a jerk.
FOLKS, GAZE, REALLY... I don't care who many comments Killian has, I don't care how long he has been posting here, in my opinion he is being a jerk and does not deserve our attention right now.
Do what you want, I'm not responding to him anymore. And if he is TRYING to get banned, he's got a fucking good head start.
Good luck Killian.
618 | Bloodnok Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:11:47am |
re: #612 Killian Bundy
/not from the United States
You say that like it's supposed to mean something. Why should any of us care where another Lizard came from or where they grew up? Frankly, that level of "caring" is creepy.
619 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:11:55am |
re: #612 Killian Bundy
re: #605 iceweasel
people of colour
/not from the United States
Should I expect an internet lawsuit saying I'm ineligible for an LGF account, and demanding my nirth certifikat?
Will there be posts on WingNut Daily, and a billboard campaign?
BTW, Didn't this kind of dreck get you deleted last night? :)
620 | nyc redneck Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:12:00am |
621 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:13:13am |
re: #584 reine.de.tout
Hi reine! Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't get that reference and you are, of course, correct. It's easy enough to imagine that LGF is just those of us who post here regularly, but in reality, given that I think there are about 2600 or so registered users, obviously the overwhelming majority of them don't post at all (though some non-posters do like to down ding - a practice I just don't get at all). And then there are the 60K or so visitors we get every day who read these threads as well. So you are of course correct - but it's damned hard, when you're in the middle of a discussion or a fight with someone, to remember that you and the other person are not alone.
That's why I have my list - folks who's comments I just scroll on by - not worth the time or effort to read and not likely to change my mind, offer me new insights or ideas and not likely to "hear" me or get new insights from me either. Saves time to have such a list (it's all in my head of course, I don't have nor need a written list for the worst of the lot)
BUT I thank you for the reminder of "the Others" folks who read stuff that isn't agreed to, disagreed with or reasoned with but amiably disagreed with - with links and research. I may have to change my mind about my own posting practices.
622 | nyc redneck Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:13:54am |
where are you from weasel?
just curious, really.
not that it matters.
are you irish?
623 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:14:53am |
re: #586 BlueCanuck
Good morning Blue - how are you today (other than perhaps "enjoy" a nice Thunderstorm, I mean!)?
624 | BlueCanuck Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:16:15am |
re: #595 Pianobuff
FoF story. My friends friend was a big fan of Oscar. got to see him as part of his music class in university. It took my friend an hour of prodding for him to go up and talk to Oscar after the show. No problem except the friends shyness. Oscar was very good and they had a delightful conversation on music and jazz
625 | Erik The Red Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:16:56am |
re: #563 Pianobuff
Good morning from sunny Marina Del Rey........
I'm on my 13th day without a cigarette and by Raleigh's ghost I sure would like one now.
Not gonna do it....not gonna do it.
(don't have any anyway)
I am on day 9 of no smoking. I left the smokes at the airport when I left S. Africa. So far so good. I have the patches and gum. I have only worn the patches once but do use 3 pieces of the gum a day. Its kinda gross because I chew it for a minute or two and then take it out until I feel like a nicotine fix.
627 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:18:37am |
628 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:18:39am |
re: #617 Walter L. Newton
SO WHAT. What would it matter if Iceweasel was from MARS. What the fuck is a Killian Bundy?
Really, I went to bed last night watching you attack people here for no apparent reason except some need to be a jerk.
FOLKS, GAZE, REALLY... I don't care who many comments Killian has, I don't care how long he has been posting here, in my opinion he is being a jerk and does not deserve our attention right now.
Do what you want, I'm not responding to him anymore. And if he is TRYING to get banned, he's got a fucking good head start.
Good luck Killian.
Walter, thank god. Honestly, THANK YOU.
This shit went on and on all yesterday before I was even around, crazy Killian BS directed at other posters yet he was dragging me in.
He's a bully, plain and simple. He already had a comment deleted in the prior thread. Yet he could not stop and had to bully Hoops-- Hoops of ALL people-- because Hoops once posted at FDL.
Thanks Walter for standing up. You and I don't always agree, god knows, but we can talk to each other and in our dealings with each other I think we're generally straight. I don't mind disagreement and I even like it, but dickheadishness is something else, and Killian is being a total bully and dickhead. Not to me in particular, but to many people consistently.
thanks.
629 | Mithrax Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:19:17am |
Thunderstorm is a rublin and growlin outside.
And one more video because I forgot the country folks:
Hank Williams Sr. - Lovesick Blues
630 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:19:26am |
re: #625 Erik The Red
I am on day 9 of no smoking. I left the smokes at the airport when I left S. Africa. So far so good. I have the patches and gum. I have only worn the patches once but do use 3 pieces of the gum a day. Its kinda gross because I chew it for a minute or two and then take it out until I feel like a nicotine fix.
Keep strong!~
I'm 27 + years tobacco free. Quit cold turkey (was up to three packs a day, NON filtered). Toothpicks got me through it at first, then I switched to swizzle sticks after a tiny piece of wood from one of the picks almost choked me to death
631 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:19:44am |
re: #625 Erik The Red
I am on day 9 of no smoking. I left the smokes at the airport when I left S. Africa. So far so good. I have the patches and gum. I have only worn the patches once but do use 3 pieces of the gum a day. Its kinda gross because I chew it for a minute or two and then take it out until I feel like a nicotine fix.
Congratulations. I truly wish you the best. It's so difficult but it sounds like you put some thought into this. Do whatever it takes!
632 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:20:26am |
This is scary. I am packing up my misc. computer stuff on my desk (printer, speakers etc.) getting ready for my move, and man, I haven't been "behind" this equipment in four years.
I don't have dust bunnies, I've got new forms of life back there.
Yuk.
633 | That's Mr. President to you Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:20:27am |
Some people have looked at some photographs over the last two days and have wondered what is truly on my mind.
Well let me assure you - my mind is focused on the economy. Administration analysts have confirmed that the stimulus is working. While the recovery is young and the job market is still tight it is safe to assume that things would have been much worse had we not spent 787 billion giving away money to my political cronies.
So in the coming days Rahm and I will be pounding away at the same message - ignore the unemployment numbers and deteriorating business conditions that are largely confined to the United States. Assume that everything will be OK so that we can remake our health care and energy sectors so that the federal government is firmly in control of have of US economic activity in perpetuity.
634 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:20:30am |
re: #616 bbuddha
Hey - here's an idea - change your name then you can just ignore those chores calling out to you!
635 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:21:42am |
re: #622 nyc redneck
where are you from weasel?
just curious, really.
not that it matters.
are you irish?
Sorry, I don't like to answer specific personal questions. Nothing personal at all, please forgive me, just a general "woman on the internet, overly cautious" thing.
Why do you think I'm Irish?
636 | apachegunner Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:22:04am |
re: #625 Erik The Redmorning lizards/lizardettes, how'd that condo look yesterday eric?
637 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:22:23am |
re: #633 That's Mr. President to you
BUTt, BUTt, Mr President
What ASSurances can you give us that you won't take all our loot and BOOTY?
638 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:22:39am |
re: #632 Walter L. Newton
This is scary. I am packing up my misc. computer stuff on my desk (printer, speakers etc.) getting ready for my move, and man, I haven't been "behind" this equipment in four years.
I don't have dust bunnies, I've got new forms of life back there.
Yuk.
It's a laptop world...
good Morning Walter!
639 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:22:45am |
re: #628 iceweasel
Walter, thank god. Honestly, THANK YOU.
And if the up dings being posted by other Lizards any indications, then Killian is VERY alone here today.
640 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:22:59am |
re: #635 iceweasel
Sorry, I don't like to answer specific personal questions. Nothing personal at all, please forgive me, just a general "woman on the internet, overly cautious" thing.
Why do you think I'm Irish?
/normally, this would trip any spam filter
641 | JCM Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:23:45am |
re: #633 That's Mr. President to you
Ahhhh, the ash tray thrown by Michelle scored.
Se a Doc for that concussion will you?
642 | yochanan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:25:43am |
i do find it funny how some words are spelled differently in the USA than in Canada or the UK. one of those words is my last name and one time I was in Canada they asked me for my name and insisted in spelling it the canadain way I had to show them my ID to get them to spell it the American way.
643 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:26:06am |
re: #633 That's Mr. President to you
How ya' doing, ya' fucking Commie bastard?
644 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:27:09am |
re: #643 MandyManners
How ya' doing, ya' fucking Commie bastard?
Thats "Mr. President, ya' fucking Commie bastard" to you, young lady!
645 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:27:26am |
re: #641 JCM
Ahhhh, the ash tray thrown by Michelle scored.
Se a Doc for that concussion will you?
It wasn't an ash tray. It was a waffle iron.
646 | Erik The Red Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:27:38am |
re: #631 Pianobuff
Congratulations. I truly wish you the best. It's so difficult but it sounds like you put some thought into this. Do whatever it takes!
It was a change of scenery that is my motivating factor. I would have really struggled to quit in S Africa.
647 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:28:14am |
re: #645 MandyManners
It wasn't an ash tray. It was a waffle iron.
couldn't have been. I doubt Michelle has been in a kitchen in decades!
649 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:28:35am |
re: #617 Walter L. Newton
and
re: #618 Bloodnok
First of all Killian isn't the villain you make him out to be; iirc, he made an issue out of iceweasel's saying who she voted for and therefore the question of whether or not she's an American Citizen is of some relevence.
Secondly - YOU don't know Killian any more than you KNOW iceweasel.
I've had the good fortune to have a modest e-mail relationship with Killian and he is one of the good guys.
Thirdly, let us not pretend that Killian is the ONLY LGFer to "lose it" from time to time out her, ok?
And I didn't read anything he said to Hoops that was offensive towards Hoops, but only Hoops can really answer that question.
650 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:29:27am |
re: #611 iceweasel
Except he has none. He attacked Hoops for having posted there. That's it.
I have a friend, very much like me, conservative and Catholic, but she is more devout than I am and she expresses herself much more elegantly and eloquently than I could ever hope to. And of course, she is always very polite.
She will only post at left-leaning sites. She sees no reason to engage in "conversations" with people who think exactly like she does.
651 | Ojoe Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:30:24am |
652 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:30:28am |
re: #638 HoosierHoops
It's a laptop world...
good Morning Walter!
I hate laptops. I contracted for a telecommunication firm for a few months about 2 years ago, and everyone had laptops. I requested a keyboard, a mouse and a real monitor.
I was using my laptop this past week from the Secret Mountain Lair, and I stopped trying to type comment on LGF becuase it was like typing on jello.
Yuck.
653 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:31:09am |
re: #622 nyc redneck
Hey {nyc redneck} - be cool my friend- iceweasel isn't ViewfromIreland nor is she JustMyView - her writings -when not full of outrage at someone - are far too literate.
654 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:31:29am |
re: #639 Walter L. Newton
And if the up dings being posted by other Lizards any indications, then Killian is VERY alone here today.
I don't know. I'm new and I don't even know who updings or downdings what, or even who updings or downdings me.
Killian is a bully and a dickhead, and I'll stand by that. He cleaned up his act for like all of 6 hours, but had to revert to being a bully again, and of all people he was picking on Hoops. HOOPS!
Good for you for calling him out. THANK YOU. It means more, frankly, because you and I disagree on many things.
655 | BlueCanuck Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:31:57am |
re: #623 realwest
Morning realwest. I always enjoy thunderstorms. I just wish I wasn't in a basement. Just waiting for the rain to let up before I go do a bunch of errands.
656 | Erik The Red Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:32:08am |
re: #636 apachegunner
morning lizards/lizardettes, how'd that condo look yesterday eric?
Great I am taking up a 6 month lease. Fully furnished, just bring suitcases. 3 bed, 2 1/2 baths. Pool in complex. $1600.00 per month. I am very happy and relieved to have found a place.
Next mission is to find an income.
657 | yochanan Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:32:27am |
going out looks too nice out there to stay in have a good one my lizards no matter how you spell color or center.
659 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:32:47am |
re: #649 realwest
And I didn't read anything he said to Hoops that was offensive towards Hoops, but only Hoops can really answer that question.
Then why are you?
just sayin!
You and I had this same go around re: your buddy Danny. What transpired betwen he and I had NOTHING to do with your positive history with him, yet you upbraided me for it!
Listen, I like you. I really do. But at times you try to play peacemaker. Thats all well and fine, but we're all adults here and can handle ourselves and spats WILL happen, so just let them
660 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:33:02am |
re: #649 realwest
and
re: #618 Bloodnok
First of all Killian isn't the villain you make him out to be; iirc, he made an issue out of iceweasel's saying who she voted for and therefore the question of whether or not she's an American Citizen is of some relevence.
Secondly - YOU don't know Killian any more than you KNOW iceweasel.
I've had the good fortune to have a modest e-mail relationship with Killian and he is one of the good guys.
Thirdly, let us not pretend that Killian is the ONLY LGFer to "lose it" from time to time out her, ok?
And I didn't read anything he said to Hoops that was offensive towards Hoops, but only Hoops can really answer that question.
RW... guess what, I DON'T CARE. Good guy, bad guy, I've read his posts over the last 16 hours. If that is what you consider civil, then good, go for it, have fun.
Hell, Charles has deleted my and chided me for 100 times less than the kind of bullcrap I see Killian posting.
I can't understand how you can support the "snark" that is going on? But, to each his own.
Remember, someday someone here may decide to start attacking you, have fun.
661 | razorbacker Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:33:04am |
The wife-woman is sleeping in today, so my busy day hasn't started yet. While I await her rising, I wandered through the Intranut, peeping through the various windows.
I found this little video about a fellow named John C. Beale, who died just over a month ago. Now I know that several famous people have joined the vast majority since Mr. Beale, but this video caught my attention. I don't know why.
I'm a modern sort of fellow. Tough. Cynical. You won't catch me being manipulated by cheap editing tricks and falling for every newest cause-of-the-day. I know that America is populated by crass, venal, ignorant folks and that the Obamanation is the wave of the future.
So I was able to watch this with the appropriate condescending sneer on my face. What a bunch of rubes, hicks, no-nothing fools interested only in their own profit. Maybe young earthers, I suspect. Probably some racists attended. Maybe even some tea-partiers. Dry-eyed I watched.
But at about 11.25 the breeze brought an unexpected waft of dust, or pollen, or some other allergen and I actually felt a wet track course down my cheek.
This video is long, and some of you will get bored before the end. I don't recommend that any modern person watch.
662 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:33:05am |
re: #648 JCM Hey good morning JCM! Didja ever get my e-mail reply from last night?
663 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:33:22am |
I'm watching Panic in Year Zero on TCM. Wow.
664 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:34:05am |
665 | JCM Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:35:51am |
re: #662 realwest
Hey good morning JCM! Didja ever get my e-mail reply from last night?
I did! Thank you!
And good morning.
666 | Miss Trixie Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:36:10am |
♪ ♬ Good morning, {lizards} ♬ ♪
Boomers are rumbling through the valley, we've a severe storm warning for the rest of the day and Lil Miss is trembling like a leaf 'round my ankles every time G*d goes for a 7-10 split. :D
I've had a hell-week at work with absolutely no time to post anything much less read what's been going on and now I'm rested, refreshed and raring to go.
What snoo?
{realwest} *smooches* 10 How are you these days? I've missed ya. :D
667 | JCM Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:36:23am |
re: #663 MandyManners
I'm watching Panic in Year Zero on TCM. Wow.
Documentary about Zero's first six months?
668 | nyc redneck Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:36:57am |
well anyway,
i got up this morning thinking it was rather obnoxious of teddy kennedy to give o a note to foist on the pope. special delivery. re: #639 Walter L. Newton
And if the up dings being posted by other Lizards any indications, then Killian is VERY alone here today.
no he isn't walter. many people here are not enamored of the trollish posters who have come on board lately. that's a fact.
some are better at tolerating them than others, tho..
usually i just ignore posters like avanti and the rest but sometimes the sneakiness and weasel words are too ridiculous.
i don't know what went on to provoke this spat but killian bundy is a great poster. he brings a lot to lgf, i'm glad he's here.
669 | Bloodnok Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:37:10am |
re: #649 realwest
and
re: #618 Bloodnok
First of all Killian isn't the villain you make him out to be; iirc, he made an issue out of iceweasel's saying who she voted for and therefore the question of whether or not she's an American Citizen is of some relevence.
Secondly - YOU don't know Killian any more than you KNOW iceweasel.
I've had the good fortune to have a modest e-mail relationship with Killian and he is one of the good guys.
Thirdly, let us not pretend that Killian is the ONLY LGFer to "lose it" from time to time out her, ok?
And I didn't read anything he said to Hoops that was offensive towards Hoops, but only Hoops can really answer that question.
he made an issue out of iceweasel's saying who she voted for and therefore the question of whether or not she's an American Citizen is of some relevence.
No, it isn't. Not here, not off the blog. Not anywhere. We do not need to provide proof of citizenship to have opinions. And we do NOT need to recite who we voted for on command.
YOU don't know Killian any more than you KNOW iceweasel.
I wouldn't be so sure. Shock! Some of us do strike up e-mail correspondences away from the blog. Iceweasel doesn't need me to vouch for her, but I will anyway. She is a good person.
Long or short LGF tenure, friends or no friends, we have every right to criticize bad behavior. I don't need to "know" someone to recognize when someone is being a jerk.
670 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:38:06am |
671 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:38:20am |
re: #653 realwest
Hey {nyc redneck} - be cool my friend- iceweasel isn't ViewfromIreland nor is she JustMyView - her writings -when not full of outrage at someone - are far too literate.
I've no idea who either of those people are, and I've never had an account at LGF before.
I find it mildly hilarious that you consider anything I've written here 'full of outrage'-- well, ok, unless directed at someone like Killian--but thanks for saying it's literate.
BTW, if I were Irish, and decided to let loose with the putative outrage, the history of literature indicates that I'd be extremely eloquent when so doing.
672 | Miss Trixie Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:39:54am |
OMIGOSH - MAJOR BOOMERS! Gotta sign off for a while - BBL.
My house is shaking!
673 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:40:11am |
re: #667 JCM
Documentary about Zero's first six months?
Ray Milland and his family are trying to escape the mountains near L.A. after it's nuked.
674 | nyc redneck Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:40:13am |
re: #668 nyc redneck
well anyway,
i got up this morning thinking it was rather obnoxious of teddy kennedy to give o a note to foist on the pope. special delivery.no he isn't walter. many people here are not enamored of the trollish posters who have come on board lately. that's a fact.
some are better at tolerating them than others, tho..
usually i just ignore posters like avanti and the rest but sometimes the sneakiness and weasel words are too ridiculous.
i don't know what went on to provoke this spat but killian bundy is a great poster. he brings a lot to lgf, i'm glad he's here.
LOL, this is such a weird post.
scratch the first part abt. teddy kennedy. i was trying to respond to walter.
675 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:40:33am |
re: #672 Miss Trixie
OMIGOSH - MAJOR BOOMERS! Gotta sign off for a while - BBL.
My house is shaking!
DUCK.
676 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:40:48am |
re: #660 Walter L. Newton
Sigh.
"someday someone here may decide to start attacking you, have fun."
They have already -many times over six year here and I have indeed had fun - and, in the early years before I learned how to phrase an insult, I've had many deletions too. If anyone wants to attack me they are welcome to do so. Cause the fact is that, except for a few posters, I DON'T GIVE A SHIT WHO ATTACKS ME. And sometimes I'm up for "blood sport" Internet style.
677 | JCM Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:42:06am |
re: #673 MandyManners
Ray Milland and his family are trying to escape the mountains near L.A. after it's nuked.
Ahh, year three of zero's reign.......
678 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:42:31am |
re: #659 sattv4u2
That's actually a first! The very first time I've ever been "attacked" (PLEASE notice the quotation marks, I'm funning ya!) for being a peacemaker.
679 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:42:45am |
680 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:42:53am |
re: #649 realwest
I generally stay out of these internecine feuds (unless I'm in one, of course) but I agree with you. It's kind of paradoxical that with the anonymity of the Internet, people actually get more self-conscious than in real life and feel compelled to spend hours and hours pointing out what they want others to consider "unfair" attacks or bullying aimed at them.
As an aside, I couldn't care less where Iceweasel is from, but if she's from another country then I don't see why she wouldn't share which one, as it could provide context for some of her statements. Of course, if she voted for someone in the U.S., then she's obviously a citizen.
As for "security", unless Iceweasel is the only person in her nation with an internet connection then identifying her homeland doesn't tell any of the bad guys anything.
681 | Bloodnok Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:42:54am |
re: #668 nyc redneck
well anyway,
i got up this morning thinking it was rather obnoxious of teddy kennedy to give o a note to foist on the pope. special delivery.no he isn't walter. many people here are not enamored of the trollish posters who have come on board lately. that's a fact.
some are better at tolerating them than others, tho..
usually i just ignore posters like avanti and the rest but sometimes the sneakiness and weasel words are too ridiculous.
i don't know what went on to provoke this spat but killian bundy is a great poster. he brings a lot to lgf, i'm glad he's here.
So you call people who you simply disagree with politically a "troll"?
Why is it so hard for people to tolerate people with different points of view? We're certainly not an echo chamber at LGF, but I sometimes get the feeling that there are those that wish it was.
682 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:43:05am |
re: #668 nyc redneck
w many people here are not enamored of the trollish posters who have come on board lately. that's a fact.
some are better at tolerating them than others, tho..
usually i just ignore posters like avanti and the rest but sometimes the sneakiness and weasel words are too ridiculous.
i don't know what went on to provoke this spat but killian bundy is a great poster. he brings a lot to lgf, i'm glad he's here.
Trollish?
You think avanti is a troll?
You think people who have opinions that are different than yours are automatically trolls?
Tsk. Good thing Charles doesn't agree with you.
Oh wait -- by your standards, is Charles a 'troll' too?
683 | CynicalConservative Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:43:14am |
Something strange in the air/water this morning.
684 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:43:28am |
re: #679 sattv4u2
DUCK,DUCK ,DUCK ,GOOSE
(I used to love that gane when I was a kid)
Mother may I take 4 scissor steps?
685 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:44:07am |
re: #649 realwest
and
re: #618 Bloodnok
First of all Killian isn't the villain you make him out to be; iirc, he made an issue out of iceweasel's saying who she voted for and therefore the question of whether or not she's an American Citizen is of some relevence.
Secondly - YOU don't know Killian any more than you KNOW iceweasel.
I've had the good fortune to have a modest e-mail relationship with Killian and he is one of the good guys.
Thirdly, let us not pretend that Killian is the ONLY LGFer to "lose it" from time to time out her, ok?
And I didn't read anything he said to Hoops that was offensive towards Hoops, but only Hoops can really answer that question.
Killian's posts lambasting iceweasel over who she voted for (a datum which remains unknown, to the best of my knowledge) have been going on for a couple of weeks now. In every thread where iceweasel posts, Killian jumps in with some unpleasant comment raising this non-issue, unprovoked and regardless of topic. Over and over and over again. It is juvenile and unpleasant. Anyone who has jumped in to attempt to end it has been lumped into the same category - whatever it may be - and is subjected to the same derision and scorn simply through association.
This sort of mindless stalker attack is exactly why I avoid most politically-oriented sites. Ad hominem attacks abound; posters are directly attacked, and the issue in question is ignored. I stick around here because such posts are kept to a minimum. In fact, this is one of the only forums I can think of where opposing views are tolerated to any degree at all, and it's unfortunate to see counterexamples to the normally civil back-and-forth that takes place here.
Killian and I probably agree on pretty much everything, but this kind of behavior is way out of line. I'm adding my voice to those who would like to see it stop.
686 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:45:30am |
re: #681 Bloodnok
So you call people who you simply disagree with politically a "troll"?
Why is it so hard for people to tolerate people with different points of view? We're certainly not an echo chamber at LGF, but I sometimes get the feeling that there are those that wish it was.
Some people at LGF want it to be an echochamber, and when it isn't they want to fill the chamber with their crying and wailing.
Fortunately, Charles is the opposite.
687 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:45:39am |
re: #684 Pianobuff
Mother may I take 4 scissor steps?
That game was for whimps. It bored the shit outta me.
The person that was "it" always allowed their best friend to win. I'd get to take 1 baby step each turn, while the freind would get to take 6 giant leaps!
At least duck, duck goose could get physical!
688 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:46:49am |
689 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:47:30am |
re: #666 {Miss Trixie}
Hey there gorgeous - Smoochies to the eleventh power (sorry I don't know how to do that halfway up the sentence thingy)!
and I've missed you too - sorry about "hell week" but at least last week is over, right! Hug Lil Miss real tight and let her know it's all gonna be alright.
Say, did I ever tell ya that I get all trembly whenever God goes for the7-10 spilt too?
Uh, just saying.............................!
690 | razorbacker Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:47:35am |
re: #680 Lincolntf
Of course, if she voted for someone in the U.S., then she's obviously a citizen.
You don't get out of the house much anymore, do you?
691 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:49:06am |
re: #687 sattv4u2
That game was for whimps. It bored the shit outta me.
The person that was "it" always allowed their best friend to win. I'd get to take 1 baby step each turn, while the freind would get to take 6 giant leaps!
At least duck, duck goose could get physical!
My favorite game was a local concoction called "Butts Up" - involving a wall, one or more tennis balls, and occasional trips to the wall where the loser would have to kneel on all fours with their ass facing the winner who would get a free shot with the tennis ball at your keester.
That and the eponymous game "Kill the Guy with the Ball" were my childhood favorites.
692 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:49:19am |
re: #688 Killian Bundy
US Government Covered Up War Crimes Committed by CIA’s Warlord
/no problem
If this is somehow related to the latest pea under your mattress, the FDL site, I haven't been following the argument.
The post does, however, serve as a perfect example of what I was criticizing.
693 | Bloodnok Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:49:32am |
We've all had our say. Now lets let the issue drop so that Charles doesn't have to wake up to any more of a mess.
694 | Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:49:54am |
This is in response to Charles' latest Brandon Power video. Stevie Wonder plays Miles Davis:
I would love to be able to play like that someday, and to have a girl in a lowcut black dress stand next to me and clap like Stevie has in the video. :)
695 | MandyManners Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:50:38am |
The Kid is at VBS and I'm gonna' do the most self-indulgent thing I can think of right now: I'm gonna' sleep. Later, Lizards!
Oh, and thank you for all the wonderful up-dings on my "fucking happy now" post!
696 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:50:51am |
re: #680 Lincolntf
As an aside, I couldn't care less where Iceweasel is from, but if she's from another country then I don't see why she wouldn't share which one, as it could provide context for some of her statements. Of course, if she voted for someone in the U.S., then she's obviously a citizen.
As for "security", unless Iceweasel is the only person in her nation with an internet connection then identifying her homeland doesn't tell any of the bad guys anything.
Sorry, any American knows that AMERICANS DON'T HAVE TO REVEAL WHO THEY VOTED FOR.
Any woman will tell you that she doesn't 'have' to reveal any information she doesn't want to. YOUR patronising assessment of what 'should' make me feel 'secure' doesn't count, and doesn't overrule MY determination, or any woman's determination, of what OUR security needs are.
697 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:50:58am |
698 | 3 wood Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:51:29am |
re: #689 realwest
Good morning my good friend. How are you and your Mom doing today?
699 | srb1976 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:51:48am |
Morning again folks....lurking when I should be working = )
I promise I'm only dinging stuff UP not down!
700 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:53:19am |
re: #669 Bloodnok
No we don't need to voice who we voted for "On Command" or at any other time, but my recollection is that she volunteered that she didn't vote for Obama.
And since, to me, that would conflict with a lot of what she says out here, I think it was valid for Killian to raise that issue.
701 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:53:22am |
Our 26th wedding anniversary is coming up, so I'm off to shop. I have a feeling the missus really needs some new power tools this year, so IBBL.
702 | KenJen Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:53:45am |
This is the second time I've expierenced this: Yesterday I'm in the doctors office in a small waiting room ready to get an x-ray on my foot. The woman sitting aross from me is filing her nails. The sound is enough to get on my nerves but she aslo blows on her nails to remove dust. She put her finger in her mouth and then pushes the cutice back pulls out a nail clipper and then files somemore. Am I the only one that thinks personal grooming should be done in the privacy of ones own home?
703 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:55:05am |
re: #693 Bloodnok
We've all had our say. Now lets let the issue drop so that Charles doesn't have to wake up to any more of a mess.
Exactly. Killian Bully has two goals: 1) get attention, any attention and 2) divert the entire thread.
Its like War Games or whatever that movie was. The only winning solution is to not play the game.
704 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:55:08am |
re: #691 Pianobuff
My favorite game was a local concoction called "Butts Up" - involving a wall, one or more tennis balls, and occasional trips to the wall where the loser would have to kneel on all fours with their ass facing the winner who would get a free shot with the tennis ball at your keester.
That and the eponymous game "Kill the Guy with the Ball" were my childhood favorites.
We had a game called BUCK BUCK. It had 2 teams with at least 4 per side. One side would line up 1st person bent over head facing a wall or fence. Second person would be behind him, bent over, shoulder to ass and hold around to the 1st operson waist. Third, fourth etc in line after that
The other "team", one by one would take a running start and vault onto our backs, landing down as hard as they could to break our "chain". If we supported the entire opposition, they then got to call out BUCK BUCK, HOW MANY FINGERS DO I HAVE UP. If we didn;t guess correctly, they got to jump on our bacjs again. If we did guess it was our turn
(little wonder to this day why I walk around with a Groucho Marx gait!)
705 | JCM Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:55:36am |
re: #702 KenJen
This is the second time I've expierenced this: Yesterday I'm in the doctors office in a small waiting room ready to get an x-ray on my foot. The woman sitting aross from me is filing her nails. The sound is enough to get on my nerves but she aslo blows on her nails to remove dust. She put her finger in her mouth and then pushes the cutice back pulls out a nail clipper and then files somemore. Am I the only one that thinks personal grooming should be done in the privacy of ones own home?
At least it wasn't her toes......
706 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:55:44am |
re: #670 Killian Bundy
Am I gonna cry now? Not very likely old sod; been insulted by the best and at worst I've strained my fingers responding.
But if you'd LIKE A FIGHT WITH ME, bring it on! I'm really in a mood to do some slicing and dicing, ya know!
707 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:55:47am |
re: #702 KenJen
This is the second time I've expierenced this: Yesterday I'm in the doctors office in a small waiting room ready to get an x-ray on my foot. The woman sitting aross from me is filing her nails. The sound is enough to get on my nerves but she aslo blows on her nails to remove dust. She put her finger in her mouth and then pushes the cutice back pulls out a nail clipper and then files somemore. Am I the only one that thinks personal grooming should be done in the privacy of ones own home?
Couldn't agree with you more.
The other thing that makes me uncomfortable is when the woman with the baby next to me whips out her boob and starts breast-feeding.
I must be a prude.
708 | jvic Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:56:13am |
I didn't realize the inquisition discussion had moved here. I put my two cents in the overnight thread:
re: #845 Sharmutare: #835 swampratIceweasel and ShanghaiEd... both registered at the same time. Different Karma percentages, different link ratios.
They are not each others sock puppets.
Quite correct, Sharmuta. Ice and Ed are not each other's sock puppets.
snicker...heh heh...
...ha ha ha...
MWAHAHAHAHAHA
/
*****************Good grief!I second that.
What's next, a loyalty oath to post here? 100 percent Americans only? No Negroes, Catholics, or Jews?
709 | GGMac Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:56:28am |
710 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:56:48am |
re: #704 sattv4u2
We had a game called BUCK BUCK. It had 2 teams with at least 4 per side. One side would line up 1st person bent over head facing a wall or fence. Second person would be behind him, bent over, shoulder to ass and hold around to the 1st operson waist. Third, fourth etc in line after that
The other "team", one by one would take a running start and vault onto our backs, landing down as hard as they could to break our "chain". If we supported the entire opposition, they then got to call out BUCK BUCK, HOW MANY FINGERS DO I HAVE UP. If we didn;t guess correctly, they got to jump on our bacjs again. If we did guess it was our turn(little wonder to this day why I walk around with a Groucho Marx gait!)
That was a great game with several variations - also immortalized by Fat Albert IIRC.
711 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:57:05am |
re: #700 realwest
No we don't need to voice who we voted for "On Command" or at any other time, but my recollection is that she volunteered that she didn't vote for Obama.
And since, to me, that would conflict with a lot of what she says out here, I think it was valid for Killian to raise that issue.
Your recollection is wrong.
712 | KenJen Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:57:19am |
re: #705 JCM
At least it wasn't her toes......
That would have thrown me over the edge. It bothered me all day. I should have told her to knock it off.
713 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:57:28am |
re: #702 KenJen
This is the second time I've expierenced this: Yesterday I'm in the doctors office in a small waiting room ready to get an x-ray on my foot. The woman sitting aross from me is filing her nails. The sound is enough to get on my nerves but she aslo blows on her nails to remove dust. She put her finger in her mouth and then pushes the cutice back pulls out a nail clipper and then files somemore. Am I the only one that thinks personal grooming should be done in the privacy of ones own home?
I agree generally...unless Megan Fox wants to put her Bikini Wax on youtube..
Then it's a matter of public record....
Good morning Jen!
714 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:57:37am |
re: #698 3 wood Hello 3 wood! Well Mom is fine and I'm just getting warmed up over here!
How are ya today?
715 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:58:49am |
re: #702 KenJen
NO,no you're not the only person who feels that way!
716 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:58:55am |
717 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:59:38am |
Oh boy, this is rich...
Obama Says Economic Stimulus Worked as Intended, Urges Patience
July 11 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama said his $787 billion stimulus bill “has worked as intended” as he pushed back against Republican criticism that his recovery program has failed to rescue the economy.
“It has already extended unemployment insurance and health insurance to those who have lost their jobs in this recession,” Obama, who is traveling today in Ghana, said in his weekly Saturday radio and Web address. “It has delivered $43 billion in tax relief to American working families and business.”
That's not WORKING. Unemployment is not working, it's getting paid while you are trying to FIND work.
And why did the Feds and the states have to EXTEND unemployment benefits, because there are no jobs.
Holy shit crapman, I didn't know that all it took to be president is to act like a lunatic.
718 | KenJen Sat, Jul 11, 2009 7:59:53am |
re: #707 Pianobuff
Couldn't agree with you more.
The other thing that makes me uncomfortable is when the woman with the baby next to me whips out her boob and starts breast-feeding.
I must be a prude.
I had a guy come in my store one time. He took a paper clip out of my box, cleaned his ear with it and threw it back in the box. Earwax and all. I started gaging and threw the box out right in front of him.
719 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:00:39am |
re: #706 realwest
Am I gonna cry now? Not very likely old sod; been insulted by the best and at worst I've strained my fingers responding.
But if you'd LIKE A FIGHT WITH ME, bring it on! I'm really in a mood to do some slicing and dicing, ya know!
Well, isn't that special. You support Killian, and what does he do, dumps on you.
Have fun.
720 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:00:48am |
re: #710 Pianobuff
That was a great game with several variations - also immortalized by Fat Albert IIRC.
yup , but seeing I was doing it in the late 50's/ early 60's, I was amazed when Cosby said he had the same game in Philly (I was in Boston). I thought we were the only weirdos
721 | razorbacker Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:01:01am |
Memo to Racer X:
I wouldn't have posted, had I read the thread and known that you already had.
That hater Theo. If not for the totties, who would ever go there?
722 | nyc redneck Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:01:18am |
re: #682 iceweasel
Trollish?
You think avanti is a troll?
You think people who have opinions that are different than yours are automatically trolls?Tsk. Good thing Charles doesn't agree with you.
Oh wait -- by your standards, is Charles a 'troll' too?
look how sneaky you are w/ your weasel words. charles a troll ? LOL
and i don't think anyone here wants an echo chamber.
but trollish annoyance does describe you. look how much trouble and discord you find yourself at the center of. and it's not w/ just a few posters. you are making no effort to get along here. and playing the victim card is a boring game. grow up.
723 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:01:44am |
re: #702 KenJen
This is the second time I've expierenced this: Yesterday I'm in the doctors office in a small waiting room ready to get an x-ray on my foot. The woman sitting aross from me is filing her nails. The sound is enough to get on my nerves but she aslo blows on her nails to remove dust. She put her finger in her mouth and then pushes the cutice back pulls out a nail clipper and then files somemore. Am I the only one that thinks personal grooming should be done in the privacy of ones own home?
Ugh, I've seen it too and I feel a little weird because to me it seems far too personal to do in public, and it bothers me when others do it. It makes me uncomfortable and seems unsanitary.
724 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:02:03am |
re: #718 KenJen
I had a guy come in my store one time. He took a paper clip out of my box, cleaned his ear with it and threw it back in the box. Earwax and all. I started gaging and threw the box out right in front of him.
We were at a restaurant getting ready to leave and looked at the table next to us and saw dentures next to the plates. Luckily we were on our way out.
725 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:02:28am |
re: #704 sattv4u2
That's the same game many of us older LGFers used to call HORSE. Only difference was if the other team didn't get all of it's riders "up" then the teams switched positions!
726 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:02:36am |
re: #696 iceweasel
I never told you you HAD to do anything, Iceweasel. Try to actually read the posts before you get up on your cross, will ya?
727 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:03:40am |
re: #719 Walter L. Newton
Well, isn't that special. You support Killian, and what does he do, dumps on you.
Have fun.
Exactly.
Support him. I'll still stand up for someone when he shits on them, but I won't forget that they supported him when he was shitting on other people.
728 | KenJen Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:04:46am |
re: #713 HoosierHoops
Good morning Hoops! So you have moved on from Beyonce to Megan Fox? Has anyone taken over Denzel in the top man crush category?
729 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:05:12am |
re: #725 realwest
That's the same game many of us older LGFers used to call HORSE. Only difference was if the other team didn't get all of it's riders "up" then the teams switched positions!
Well thats dumb! Why would you allow the other team to get all their riders up? That would mean you had to get jumped on again!
1st person on the "other" team jumps on, I break our teams chain! Then WE get to jump on them! The object was to NOT be the team getting jumped on!
730 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:05:36am |
BBL, gotta go get chlorine tabs for the pool before it turns green (again).
731 | KenJen Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:05:56am |
re: #724 Pianobuff
We were at a restaurant getting ready to leave and looked at the table next to us and saw dentures next to the plates. Luckily we were on our way out.
OMG!
732 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:06:26am |
re: #726 Lincolntf
I never told you you HAD to do anything, Iceweasel. Try to actually read the posts before you get up on your cross, will ya?
Sorry, buddy, I did read your post and I wasn't accusing you when I responded. Try to read 'you' as meaning 'collective you'. That's how I meant it and I thought that would be clear.
Try to realise that before you get up on your own cross, ok? :)
733 | 3 wood Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:06:56am |
Looks like I'm coming in after some dustup.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't care where you live, who you voted for or did not vote for, or even if you shoot battery acid and have a peculiar relationship with a goat. That's your business and none of mine.
The only thing that bothers me around here is if a poster is obviously lying and misrepresenting factual information. Difference of opinion is one thing, falsifying facts to shill for an agenda is something else.
Once I see someone do that, I'm pretty much done with them.
Also, you can disagree with out being nasty. I try to not say anything here that I would not be willing to say face to face. I think that is a pretty good rule.
For example, I disagree with Iceweasle on just about everything, but I have never seen Ice be rude or nasty, and I can not say the same thing for certain other posters I've seen.
735 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:08:16am |
re: #733 3 wood
Looks like I'm coming in after some dustup.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't care where you live, who you voted for or did not vote for, or even if you shoot battery acid and have a peculiar relationship with a goat. That's your business and none of mine.
The only thing that bothers me around here is if a poster is obviously lying and misrepresenting factual information. Difference of opinion is one thing, falsifying facts to shill for an agenda is something else.
Once I see someone do that, I'm pretty much done with them.
Also, you can disagree with out being nasty. I try to not say anything here that I would not be willing to say face to face. I think that is a pretty good rule.
For example, I disagree with Iceweasle on just about everything, but I have never seen Ice be rude or nasty, and I can not say the same thing for certain other posters I've seen.
Screw you!
////
736 | 3 wood Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:08:28am |
re: #702 KenJen
She put her finger in her mouth and then pushes the cutice back pulls out a nail clipper and then files somemore. Am I the only one that thinks personal grooming should be done in the privacy of ones own home?
Disgusting. That's like doing a "farmer blow" of you nose on the floor.
737 | razorbacker Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:08:35am |
Alice laughed. "There's no use trying," she said: "one can't believe impossible things.""I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was your age, I always did it for half-an-hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast." (Through the Looking Glass, Chapter 5)
738 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:08:39am |
re: #728 KenJen
Good morning Hoops! So you have moved on from Beyonce to Megan Fox? Has anyone taken over Denzel in the top man crush category?
Denzel is still my #1 stud actor.. LOL
739 | KenJen Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:09:32am |
re: #724 Pianobuff
We were at a restaurant getting ready to leave and looked at the table next to us and saw dentures next to the plates. Luckily we were on our way out.
My boss was at the chiropractors office a few weeks ago. He said the assistant who took him back to the room was brushing her teeth. Yes. She came out to the waiting room called his name, walked him back to the room all the while brushing her teeth.
740 | 3 wood Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:09:47am |
re: #735 sattv4u2
As soon as I sent that I knew that was coming :)
741 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:09:55am |
re: #717 Walter L. Newton
"Holy shit crapman, I didn't know that all it took to be president is to act like a lunatic." It isn't - ya gotta have a majority of votes and have the MSM play on your team.
But what I have to say I admire in Obama - as a politician (hmmm "admire" and "politician" don't seem appropriate in the same sentence....oh well) is that MOST of the "Stimulus Money" is intended to be released in time to affect the 2010 Congressional elections.
The fact that a lot of folks are gonna suffer between now and the release of the funds is irrelevent to a politician and for ONCE I'd like to hear someone talk about Underemployment as well as Unemployment.
742 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:10:11am |
re: #736 3 wood
Disgusting. That's like doing a "farmer blow" of you nose on the floor.
I've never been able to master that technique. The most I usually manage to do is have it go askew and hit my pants leg. Once I made it to the tip of my shoe. Maybe I need to practice more :)
///////////////////
743 | Bloodnok Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:10:12am |
re: #722 nyc redneck
look how sneaky you are w/ your weasel words. charles a troll ? LOL
and i don't think anyone here wants an echo chamber.
but trollish annoyance does describe you. look how much trouble and discord you find yourself at the center of. and it's not w/ just a few posters. you are making no effort to get along here. and playing the victim card is a boring game. grow up.
C'mon IW, it's all your fault! Be more like us and there won't be a problem! Make an effort!
/sheesh -Ice is nothing if not polite, and gets dumped on anyway. It's just her politics that people can't stand. That's all.
744 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:10:25am |
Are we still squabbling 9 hours later? Yeesh! C'mon guys.
745 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:10:28am |
746 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:10:45am |
re: #722 nyc redneck
look how sneaky you are w/ your weasel words. charles a troll ? LOL
and i don't think anyone here wants an echo chamber.
but trollish annoyance does describe you. look how much trouble and discord you find yourself at the center of. and it's not w/ just a few posters. you are making no effort to get along here. and playing the victim card is a boring game. grow up.
Nice post. What an utter joke you are, how you go out of your way to cause trouble, and especially to try to make trouble for some specific others, including me. I think you should keep this up. Really. Have you emailed Charles yet, to tell him that I'm a troll and demand I should be banned? :)
747 | CynicalConservative Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:11:42am |
748 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:12:35am |
749 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:12:46am |
re: #744 Killgore Trout
Are we still squabbling 9 hours later? Yeesh! C'mon guys.
AT least we're not pigeonholed!
750 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:12:54am |
re: #739 KenJen
My boss was at the chiropractors office a few weeks ago. He said the assistant who took him back to the room was brushing her teeth. Yes. She came out to the waiting room called his name, walked him back to the room all the while brushing her teeth.
Ya know, I just don't get it. I wonder if there is something in the upbringing that leads to this kind of hygienic exhibitionism. When they were babies, were their kimbies always changed with a large audience around them or something?
751 | BlueCanuck Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:13:18am |
Ah , lazy days and Saturdays. Sun is trying it's best to shine, and those chores are just screaming at me to get done. going to finish my coffe and meander out the door.
752 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:13:25am |
re: #741 realwest
"Holy shit crapman, I didn't know that all it took to be president is to act like a lunatic." It isn't - ya gotta have a majority of votes and have the MSM play on your team.
But what I have to say I admire in Obama - as a politician (hmmm "admire" and "politician" don't seem appropriate in the same sentence....oh well) is that MOST of the "Stimulus Money" is intended to be released in time to affect the 2010 Congressional elections.
The fact that a lot of folks are gonna suffer between now and the release of the funds is irrelevent to a politician and for ONCE I'd like to hear someone talk about Underemployment as well as Unemployment.
I talk about it all the time. I'm grateful that I have my theatre "career" to fall back on right now, but still, I am making 1/4 of what I made as a programmer. Going from 82,000 a year down to under 20,000 is a bit of a hit. But if you are over 50 and white, and you are out of work, no matter what you resume looks like, it seems that underemployment is the norm.
753 | JCM Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:13:34am |
re: #741 realwest
"Holy shit crapman, I didn't know that all it took to be president is to act like a lunatic." It isn't - ya gotta have a majority of votes and have the MSM play on your team.
But what I have to say I admire in Obama - as a politician (hmmm "admire" and "politician" don't seem appropriate in the same sentence....oh well) is that MOST of the "Stimulus Money" is intended to be released in time to affect the 2010 Congressional elections.
The fact that a lot of folks are gonna suffer between now and the release of the funds is irrelevent to a politician and for ONCE I'd like to hear someone talk about Underemployment as well as Unemployment.
All those congress critters announcing major projects in their districts starting a year from now.
754 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:13:43am |
re: #733 3 wood
Looks like I'm coming in after some dustup.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't care where you live, who you voted for or did not vote for, or even if you shoot battery acid and have a peculiar relationship with a goat. That's your business and none of mine.
The only thing that bothers me around here is if a poster is obviously lying and misrepresenting factual information. Difference of opinion is one thing, falsifying facts to shill for an agenda is something else.
Once I see someone do that, I'm pretty much done with them.
Also, you can disagree with out being nasty. I try to not say anything here that I would not be willing to say face to face. I think that is a pretty good rule.
For example, I disagree with Iceweasle on just about everything, but I have never seen Ice be rude or nasty, and I can not say the same thing for certain other posters I've seen.
Cheers, 3wood. Thanks. Agree with what you've said, and I disagree with you on pretty much everything in the past, but likewise, I've never seen you be rude or nasty.
755 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:13:54am |
756 | 3 wood Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:14:09am |
Congrats to Jonathan Sanchez for throwing the first no-hitter of the year last night as the Giants beat the Padres 6 - 0. Yes, I know it was only the Padres, but they are still in the majors.
757 | 3 wood Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:15:22am |
re: #742 Walter L. Newton
I've never been able to master that technique. The most I usually manage to do is have it go askew and hit my pants leg. Once I made it to the tip of my shoe. Maybe I need to practice more :)
Ride a bicycle 20 miles plus a day like I do most days and you learn real quick.
758 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:15:28am |
759 | razorbacker Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:15:32am |
re: #738 HoosierHoops
Denzel is still my #1 stud actor.. LOL
Wow.
Not John Wayne?
Not Robert Mitchum?
Not Steve McQueen?
Not Ben Johnson?
I'm old, decrepit, a bag of dry bones. Fit only to have dirt thrown down into my face.
Denzel is a nice guy. He's pretty, plays interesting roles, and from what I hear is not quite so moonbattish as the run-of-the-mill Hollywood actor.
But number one stud? Naw.
760 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:15:33am |
re: #729 sattv4u2
No - fer cryin out loud - the team that was the HORSE had to maintain it's standing - litterally - be able to stay together under the weight of the other team who would try to get the most "riders" it could USUALLY on the next to last person (though I've forgotten why that particular person). If the HORSE broke or any of the team lost connection with the teammate in front of them, that team hadda be the HORSE again.
761 | jvic Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:16:00am |
re: #727 iceweasel
Exactly.Support him. I'll still stand up for someone when he shits on them, but I won't forget that they supported him when he was shitting on other people.
Speaking of support, Ice, I appreciate the updings from you and others. If I wasn't connecting with anyone here, I'd spend less time at LGF and more at places like the Secular Right or the Becker-Posner Blog.
762 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:16:11am |
re: #756 3 wood
Congrats to Jonathan Sanchez for throwing the first no-hitter of the year last night as the Giants beat the Padres 6 - 0. Yes, I know it was only the Padres, but they are still in the majors.
The only 4th lefty in Giants History to do it!
I grew up a Giants fan.... 1/2 price Tuesdays got you in the game for 5 bucks
764 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:17:28am |
765 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:17:31am |
re: #744 Killgore Trout
Are we still squabbling 9 hours later? Yeesh! C'mon guys.
Killian Bully had a comment deleted on the prior thread. Then he wet himself lavishly, cowered, and apologised to Shanghai Ed and me on this thread.
Predictably, his Bully nature reasserted itself within a few hours and he HAD to be a total asshole to Hoosier Hoops, when Hoops innocently remarked that he first started reading blogs over at firedoglake.
That's more than enough detail. Same shit, different day, etc.
766 | 3 wood Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:17:57am |
re: #752 Walter L. Newton
But if you are over 50 and white, and you are out of work, no matter what you resume looks like, it seems that underemployment is the norm.
I have a friend who went from being an executive at a fortune 500 firm to selling paint at Home Depot. He said it was like he was invisible in the white collar job market.
767 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:19:29am |
769 | nyc redneck Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:19:53am |
re: #746 iceweasel
Nice post. What an utter joke you are, how you go out of your way to cause trouble, and especially to try to make trouble for some specific others, including me. I think you should keep this up. Really. Have you emailed Charles yet, to tell him that I'm a troll and demand I should be banned? :)
oh my, look at these harsh words coming from the teeth of a weasel.
770 | razorbacker Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:20:00am |
re: #752 Walter L. Newton
But if you are over 50 and white, and you are out of work, no matter what you resume looks like, it seems that underemployment is the norm.
I've heard that you should find that which you love, and do that for a living. Then you will prosper, and never worry about money again.
I'll just mention that there doesn't seem to be much call for paying gigs for old white fellows who love to smoke pot, drink ruinous spirits, lay about the bed all day, and play slap and tickle with younger women.
Pity, that.
771 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:20:16am |
re: #761 jvic
Speaking of support, Ice, I appreciate the updings from you and others. If I wasn't connecting with anyone here, I'd spend less time at LGF and more at places like the Secular Right or the Becker-Posner Blog.
No prob, jvic. I enjoy your comments and learn from them. I have been reading your blog btw and will comment.
I don't read secular right or beckner/posner. Should I?
772 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:20:52am |
re: #759 razorbacker
Wow.
Not John Wayne?
Not Robert Mitchum?
Not Steve McQueen?
Not Ben Johnson?
I'm old, decrepit, a bag of dry bones. Fit only to have dirt thrown down into my face.
Denzel is a nice guy. He's pretty, plays interesting roles, and from what I hear is not quite so moonbattish as the run-of-the-mill Hollywood actor.
But number one stud? Naw.
LOL
Aren't all those wonderful actors dead...I was talking all time actors...Just who I love now...and I want his cell phone.. I'd call every girl on it just for fun...
Hi Baby...This is Denzel..Why don't we meet for dinner at Johnny Depps House tonight? pick you up at 8...
/
773 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:21:26am |
Good Morning Lizards! It is very bright in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland.
Florida Couple who adopted children with disabilities killed? Anyone know more about this?
How are you-all and what are we talking about?
774 | 3 wood Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:21:29am |
re: #762 HoosierHoops
I grew up a Giants fan.... 1/2 price Tuesdays got you in the game for 5 bucks
Remember when they had Willie Mays, Bobby Bonds and McCovey? Wow, that was a team.
I remember them coming into Wrigley back then and watching cannon shots going out onto Waveland.
775 | J.D. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:22:20am |
re: #748 Killian Bundy
You bet.
/it's surreal, ask it about firedoglake
OK.
Are they having fun yet?
776 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:22:28am |
re: #765 iceweasel
I think the core problem here is that are are people who aren't content to just enjoy their time here and allow others to do the same. We have some lizards who put a lot of time and effort into making others miserable.
777 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:22:34am |
re: #766 3 wood
I have a friend who went from being an executive at a fortune 500 firm to selling paint at Home Depot. He said it was like he was invisible in the white collar job market.
I wish I could get a "normal" 40 hour a week job, even at Home Depot, since I really like to stay busy, and the theatre is more like a part time job. I'm on call 24/7 so to speak, but the real work days are Friday, Saturday and Sundays, which are the days we have performances. I do some occasional theatre work Mon-Thur., but not a lot.
I can't get a job around here at Home Depot, or any retail. They see my resume and I get "well, you won't be happy here after a while."
Yes I will, I like to work, I like the routine, I like to stay busy. What the fuck is wrong with these people?
778 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:22:40am |
re: #768 Killian Bundy
/are ou going to cry now?
You're really interested in the idea of making a woman cry, aren't you? When you're not telling us to 'lick ourselves' you're asking if we've 'cried' yet.
Just guessing here: issues with women?
/no need to answer.
779 | BlueCanuck Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:23:24am |
Hmmm been informative lurking. coffee is done, I will talk to you lizards later.
780 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:23:41am |
re: #744 Killgore Trout
Are we still squabbling 9 hours later? Yeesh! C'mon guys.
What happens on other threads, stays on other threads!
781 | albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:24:08am |
re: #774 3 wood
Remember when they had Willie Mays, Bobby Bonds and McCovey? Wow, that was a team.
I remember them coming into Wrigley back then and watching cannon shots going out onto Waveland.
my dad took me to Wrigley (he was a Sox fan) just to see those guys...he wanted me to see the greatest players of the day...Ernie Banks, Santo etc
782 | 3 wood Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:24:11am |
re: #772 HoosierHoops
Aren't all those wonderful actors dead...I was talking all time actors..
Humphrey Bogart is my favorite. Maltese Falcon was an incredible performance.
783 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:24:26am |
re: #734 J.D.
Hi ya {J.D.} Yup, some of us are! How are you today?
784 | J.D. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:25:09am |
Who was deleted?
I'm reading and going back and forth and I can't keep up!
785 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:25:22am |
re: #774 3 wood
Remember when they had Willie Mays, Bobby Bonds and McCovey? Wow, that was a team.
I remember them coming into Wrigley back then and watching cannon shots going out onto Waveland.
Jack Clark almost ran me over in his Car going into the players garage at Candlestick...I'll never forget the look in his eyes when he squealed to a stop..
should have got his autograph
786 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:25:41am |
re: #784 J.D.
Who was deleted?
I'm reading and going back and forth and I can't keep up!
Killian (one comment so far).
787 | albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:25:47am |
re: #776 Killgore Trout
I think the core problem here is that are are people who aren't content to just enjoy their time here and allow others to do the same. We have some lizards who put a lot of time and effort into making others miserable.
that always backfires on me...then I'm miserable for it...jus sayin
788 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:26:27am |
re: #787 albusteve
that always backfires on me...then I'm miserable for it...jus sayin
He's talking about me Steve.
789 | sattv4u2 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:26:51am |
re: #785 HoosierHoops
Jack Clark almost ran me over in his Car going into the players garage at Candlestick...I'll never forget the look in his eyes when he squealed to a stop..
should have got his autograph
You SHOULD have let him clip ya! You would have gotten WAY more than an autograph!
790 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:26:52am |
re: #776 Killgore Trout
I think the core problem here is that are are people who aren't content to just enjoy their time here and allow others to do the same. We have some lizards who put a lot of time and effort into making others miserable.
To be honest, I think it mirrors something you said before about the rising rage here and elsewhere on righty blogs of late.
I think it's a microcosm of what's happening with the GOP as a whole. There is a lot of rage, a feeling of displacement, a kind of lashing out and a kind of turning inward, us-vs-them mindset.
It's understandable, psychologically, as a way to deal with such a devastating and resounding electoral defeat, but it's self-defeating. The left did this too after 2000, and they didn't win any elections until they got past it-- 2006.
791 | J.D. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:26:57am |
792 | albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:27:01am |
794 | razorbacker Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:27:44am |
re: #777 Walter L. Newton
I wish I could get a "normal" 40 hour a week job, even at Home Depot, since I really like to stay busy, and the theatre is more like a part time job. I'm on call 24/7 so to speak, but the real work days are Friday, Saturday and Sundays, which are the days we have performances. I do some occasional theatre work Mon-Thur., but not a lot.
I can't get a job around here at Home Depot, or any retail. They see my resume and I get "well, you won't be happy here after a while."
Yes I will, I like to work, I like the routine, I like to stay busy. What the fuck is wrong with these people?
You fall into a dangerous grouping. You are over 50. That means that you are a 'protected' person in the eyes of the law.
Much simpler and cheaper to hire a younger fellow, who they can fire later without all those legal entanglements.
Riene du Tout can explain it better than I.
795 | Achilles Tang Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:28:09am |
re: #765 iceweasel
I googled Who the Hell is Killian Bundy before I realized he was an LGF member long time. Must not have made a big impression on me, or vice versa; but since don't have anything else to say now, in case it ever comes up, I voted for Bill Clinton, I voted for Bush Jr., though not happily, I voted for McCain, but not for Palin. If the pundits keep saying it's going to be between Romney, Palin and the Huckster I may just vote for Ron Paul for the hell of it.
/So there.
796 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:28:11am |
re: #793 Killian Bundy
/fuck off, go back to wence you came
Are you hoping to get banned forever today? :)
798 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:29:29am |
800 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:30:19am |
re: #752 Walter L. Newton
I talk about it all the time. I'm grateful that I have my theatre "career" to fall back on right now, but still, I am making 1/4 of what I made as a programmer. Going from 82,000 a year down to under 20,000 is a bit of a hit. But if you are over 50 and white, and you are out of work, no matter what you resume looks like, it seems that underemployment is the norm.
Speaking of the shortage of programming jobs: has Congress done the simplest thing imaginable yet, and cut back on the number of H1-B visas that are being granted? This would surely free up some slots in the IT field for American workers, where so many H1-B recipients are destined for.
My Karnak-like senses are telling me that the number of H1-B visas, which is under Congressional control, is still astronomically high.
801 | wrenchwench Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:30:35am |
re: #757 3 wood
Ride a bicycle 20 miles plus a day like I do most days and you learn real quick.
My practice came during hard rains in the Northwest. Evidence of failure disappears.
802 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:30:36am |
re: #733 3 wood um, y'all ought to check your e-mail. And btw, please read comment #746: "What an utter joke you are, how you go out of your way to cause trouble, and especially to try to make trouble for some specific others, including me. I think you should keep this up. Really. "
and perhaps rethink your #733.
803 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:30:36am |
re: #781 albusteve
my dad took me to Wrigley (he was a Sox fan) just to see those guys...he wanted me to see the greatest players of the day...Ernie Banks, Santo etc
A bunch of us went to Candlestick when the Red's came to town..I was pretty young but at 5pm at Batting practice there was Pete Rose in the Cage...I ran down to the back stop and yelled as loud as I could... 'Hey Pete Rose! what does a man really want in an Aftershave?'
He stopped turned around slowly and smiled.. He hit 3 frigging triples that night. I'm sure it was my fault
804 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:30:52am |
re: #796 iceweasel
Are you hoping to get banned forever today? :)
/we'll see, do you have special dispensation?
805 | J.D. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:31:45am |
re: #790 iceweasel
The left did this too after 2000, and they didn't win any elections until they got past it-- 2006.
You think they got past it in 2006?
News to me!
806 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:32:05am |
re: #794 razorbacker
You fall into a dangerous grouping. You are over 50. That means that you are a 'protected' person in the eyes of the law.
Much simpler and cheaper to hire a younger fellow, who they can fire later without all those legal entanglements.
Riene du Tout can explain it better than I.
Well, stop protecting me, I can take care of myself. The government is protecting me so well, they forgot some of the basic needs of a human. Feeling some worth, accomplishment, caring, you know, those things I need besides the nanny state.
It's like they don't need me right now, because I'm in my 50's, but the whole thing is set up to make sure I don't make it to retirement age. I guess they are just hoping I'll disappear before I cost them some money.
807 | razorbacker Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:32:30am |
re: #772 HoosierHoops
LOL
Aren't all those wonderful actors dead...I was talking all time actors...Just who I love now...and I want his cell phone.. I'd call every girl on it just for fun...
Hi Baby...This is Denzel..Why don't we meet for dinner at Johnny Depps House tonight? pick you up at 8...
/
Dead, yes, and more is the pity.
Of the current crop I enjoy Owen Wilson. I like the fact that a fellow whose nose testifies that he has lost every fight that he has ever been in can make it big.
That Vince Vaughn fellow makes me laugh, too.
That's all I ask anymore. Make me laugh. You're not going to impress me with your knowledge of current events, most likely. Nor your deep understanding of the geo-political ramifications of current administration policy.
Just make me laugh. I need that.
808 | KenJen Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:33:22am |
re: #790 iceweasel
To be honest, I think it mirrors something you said before about the rising rage here and elsewhere on righty blogs of late.
I think it's a microcosm of what's happening with the GOP as a whole. There is a lot of rage, a feeling of displacement, a a kind of lashing out and kind of turning inward, us-vs-them mindset.
It's understandable, psychologically, as a way to deal with such a devastating and resounding electoral defeat, but it's self-defeating. The left did this too after 2000, and they didn't win any elections until they got past it-- 2006.
I dont feel that way nor do I see those views on LGF. You are the one who seems a little pissed off this morning. Maybe you should take a walk and chiil out. Im not trying to be nasty.
809 | 3 wood Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:33:56am |
Great news!
Obama Says Economic Stimulus Plan Worked as Intended
President Barack Obama said his $787 billion stimulus bill “has worked as intended” as he pushed back against Republican criticism that his recovery program has failed to rescue the economy.“It has already extended unemployment insurance and health insurance to those who have lost their jobs in this recession,” Obama, who is traveling today in Ghana, said in his weekly Saturday radio and Web address. “It has delivered $43 billion in tax relief to American working families and business.”
Obama spoke after stocks fell for a fourth week on concern that an economic recovery will be delayed. A government report last week showed that employers cut 467,000 jobs in June and the unemployment rate rose to 9.5 percent, the highest since 1983.
This from the same guy who said that the stimulus plan would keep unemployment at 8% or less. Over 2 million people have lost jobs since he came into office.
And now he wants you to believe it worked as intended. And he's trying to spin this as tax relief.
Wow.
811 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:34:01am |
re: #802 realwest
um, y'all ought to check your e-mail. And btw, please read comment #746: "What an utter joke you are, how you go out of your way to cause trouble, and especially to try to make trouble for some specific others, including me. I think you should keep this up. Really. "
and perhaps rethink your #733.
Ooh, email?
Sure. 3wood should rethink his objective opinion based on some scurrilous email rumour you won't post here.
That makes sense.
812 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:34:05am |
re: #752 Walter L. Newton
Yup you do and I appreciate and acknowledge it; regrettfully I wasn't clear in my post: I'd like someone in the GOVERNMENT to acknowledge the problems of underemployment. Especially somoneone not from a protected class but who is nonetheless a true minority in terms of numbers and percentages - White heterosexual Males over the age of 50 (maybe 45 now).
813 | Killian Bundy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:34:32am |
So much bulllpexpletive deleted].
815 | 3 Sigma E Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:35:31am |
re: #809 3 wood
And now he wants you to believe it worked as intended. And he's trying to spin this as tax relief.
It did work as he intended. More people are now dependent on the government.
816 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:35:34am |
re: #808 KenJen
I dont feel that way nor do I see those views on LGF. You are the one who seems a little pissed off this morning. Maybe you should take a walk and chiil out. Im not trying to be nasty.
Not at all, I understand.
The parts of my comment that you bolded don't refer to LGF, btw, but to a very general very vague assessment of what the GOP is doing right now.
817 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:35:39am |
re: #800 SixDegrees
Speaking of the shortage of programming jobs: has Congress done the simplest thing imaginable yet, and cut back on the number of H1-B visas that are being granted? This would surely free up some slots in the IT field for American workers, where so many H1-B recipients are destined for.
My Karnak-like senses are telling me that the number of H1-B visas, which is under Congressional control, is still astronomically high.
You don't need a crystal ball to know that. I have had off and on short term contract programming work over the last 5 years, and I can tell you, some of these places I have contracted at looks like the united nations.
And don't get me wrong, these employees know what they are doing, and they are damn good. But they are doing it for pennies on the dollar and doing it on my favor, my dime, my government is letting them in here to take US jobs.
819 | razorbacker Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:36:53am |
re: #806 Walter L. Newton
Well, stop protecting me, I can take care of myself. The government is protecting me so well, they forgot some of the basic needs of a human. Feeling some worth, accomplishment, caring, you know, those things I need besides the nanny state.
It's like they don't need me right now, because I'm in my 50's, but the whole thing is set up to make sure I don't make it to retirement age. I guess they are just hoping I'll disappear before I cost them some money.
Oh, you kid. Relax. Don't struggle. Settle back into the warm, protective embrace of the government. Momma knows best. You'll just hurt yourself, or get all flustered, if you insist on trying to provide for yourself.
What are you? Some kind of bitter clinger? Don't you know that this is the 21st century. You're supposed to be better than that.
820 | 3 wood Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:36:55am |
re: #802 realwest
I understand real, but I'll leave that squabble between them.
821 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:36:55am |
re: #807 razorbacker
Dead, yes, and more is the pity.
Of the current crop I enjoy Owen Wilson. I like the fact that a fellow whose nose testifies that he has lost every fight that he has ever been in can make it big.
That Vince Vaughn fellow makes me laugh, too.
That's all I ask anymore. Make me laugh. You're not going to impress me with your knowledge of current events, most likely. Nor your deep understanding of the geo-political ramifications of current administration policy.
Just make me laugh. I need that.
I love those guys..esp in the Wedding Crashers! The question was #1 stud actor...If I'm walking down the Red Carpet I'm going as Denzel...Flat out..
The womans' knees buckle and the guys are trying to light your cigar first..
/ it's all in fun..
823 | albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:37:14am |
re: #803 HoosierHoops
A bunch of us went to Candlestick when the Red's came to town..I was pretty young but at 5pm at Batting practice there was Pete Rose in the Cage...I ran down to the back stop and yelled as loud as I could... 'Hey Pete Rose! what does a man really want in an Aftershave?'
He stopped turned around slowly and smiled.. He hit 3 frigging triples that night. I'm sure it was my fault
3 trips has to be some kind of record...stuff like that unusual factoid follows Rose around...what a great player...oh and for the 10th time, I shook T Williams hand!
824 | nyc redneck Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:37:21am |
re: #818 taxfreekiller
Earth First Democrats hate humans, but love dead rocks and dirt.
LOL, let them eat dirt.
825 | Wendya Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:37:44am |
re: #809 3 wood
Great news!
Obama Says Economic Stimulus Plan Worked as Intended
Uh, huh. I guess the economy was stimulated when Obama gave us ponies and paid our mortgage.
826 | JCM Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:37:50am |
re: #818 taxfreekiller
Earth First Democrats hate humans, but love dead rocks and dirt.
Earth First!
We'll log the other planets later!
828 | 3 Sigma E Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:38:32am |
re: #818 taxfreekiller
Earth First Democrats hate humans, but love dead rocks and dirt.
Oh, they like humans, all right ... just as long as they stay in their proper place.
829 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:39:09am |
re: #817 Walter L. Newton
You don't need a crystal ball to know that. I have had off and on short term contract programming work over the last 5 years, and I can tell you, some of these places I have contracted at looks like the united nations.
And don't get me wrong, these employees know what they are doing, and they are damn good. But they are doing it for pennies on the dollar and doing it on my favor, my dime, my government is letting them in here to take US jobs.
Completely agree. The huge number of H1-Bs granted has nothing to do with a shortage of American labor, and everything to do with undercutting costs. So here we are, with a surging unemployment rate, filling good-paying jobs with foreign labor.
Of course, now Congress' excuse will be, "Well, if we cut back on H1-B visas, the cost to employers will rise, and that would be bad in our present economy," forgetting that the problem only exists at all because Congress created it in the first place.
830 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:39:22am |
re: #790 iceweasel
I really think that's the core of the problem. Maybe we can lobby Obama for a national program to lift conservative spirits. Maybe stimulus money for inspirational posters or sending out one of those joke-a-day calenders or something.
831 | 3 wood Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:40:53am |
re: #811 iceweasel
Sure. 3wood should rethink his objective opinion based on some scurrilous email rumour you won't post here.
Ice, that's not what he said. Real and I advise each other privately about things that have nothing to do with LGF such as finances and legal things in our personal lives that you have no idea about or are none of your business.
I mean this in a nice way, please relax a little.
832 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:41:14am |
re: #819 razorbacker
Oh, you kid. Relax. Don't struggle. Settle back into the warm, protective embrace of the government. Momma knows best. You'll just hurt yourself, or get all flustered, if you insist on trying to provide for yourself.
What are you? Some kind of bitter clinger? Don't you know that this is the 21st century. You're supposed to be better than that.
Funny thing is, I'm paying the bills with what I make, I work an average of 3 good days a week, I am creating, theatre stuff you know, living the life of an artist, I should be happy.
But, I still don't have to be happy about what is happening and has happened. When you spend 30 years doing something and doing it well, and then suddenly you find out that it's not respected, well, it can make you a little pissed off.
834 | Wendya Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:42:55am |
re: #790 iceweasel
To be honest, I think it mirrors something you said before about the rising rage here and elsewhere on righty blogs of late.
I think it's a microcosm of what's happening with the GOP as a whole. There is a lot of rage, a feeling of displacement, a kind of lashing out and a kind of turning inward, us-vs-them mindset.
Because no one to the right of Mao could possibly have any problems with what the democrats are doing in Congress.
I've got to hand it to you. You're pretty slick.
835 | CynicalConservative Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:43:13am |
re: #830 Killgore Trout
I really think that's the core of the problem. Maybe we can lobby Obama for a national program to lift conservative spirits. Maybe stimulus money for inspirational posters or sending out one of those joke-a-day calenders or something.
I think the Joke-a-Day is in the whitehouse.
836 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:43:25am |
Regarding the opium crop. WTF? Let's just keep funding the whacko's. Somehow, I don't think the money trail stops at the Taliban. Who is really benefiting from this money?
837 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:43:45am |
re: #829 SixDegrees
Completely agree. The huge number of H1-Bs granted has nothing to do with a shortage of American labor, and everything to do with undercutting costs. So here we are, with a surging unemployment rate, filling good-paying jobs with foreign labor.
Of course, now Congress' excuse will be, "Well, if we cut back on H1-B visas, the cost to employers will rise, and that would be bad in our present economy," forgetting that the problem only exists at all because Congress created it in the first place.
I would take the same money that the H1-b people are making. I've been careful in the past, I don't have a lot of financial obligations. It's got to be more than just cost. I've offered to take the same money as H1-b people get and I have been turned down.
There is a lot more to this than we know.
839 | razorbacker Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:45:34am |
It occurs to me that, from what I read, if anything really serious every happens, I mean if a real problem develops that my family or friends can't help me out of it, that I'd kinda like to have TFK standing in a chest-deep hole about a 150 yards in front of the house, with realwest on speed-dial and 3wood moving my money into a hidden account.
I can't exactly say why. That's just the impression that I get.
840 | jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:46:09am |
re: #835 CynicalConservative
I think the Joke-a-Day is in the whitehouse.
Wendya posted a good one.
Obama Says Economic Stimulus Plan Worked as Intended
841 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:46:23am |
re: #834 Wendya
Because no one to the right of Mao could possibly have any problems with what the democrats are doing in Congress.
I've got to hand it to you. You're pretty slick.
And here I thought my issues were with the policies and legislation that's being/been advanced. Glad to know it's just because our asses got kicked. I guess I can take a collective sigh with the rest of the sore losers and go back to sleep now.
842 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:46:39am |
re: #830 Killgore Trout
I really think that's the core of the problem. Maybe we can lobby Obama for a national program to lift conservative spirits. Maybe stimulus money for inspirational posters or sending out one of those joke-a-day calenders or something.
Perhaps a stimulus package? :)
843 | CynicalConservative Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:47:07am |
re: #840 jaunte
Wendya posted a good one.
Obama Says Economic Stimulus Plan Worked as Intended
Yeah, that was definitely a WTF for me.
844 | 3 wood Sat, Jul 11, 2009 8:47:46am |
So the stimulus is working as planned per Obama?
Wyoming bank is 53rd failure of 2009, 1st in state since 1991
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Thermopolis, Wyo.-based Bank of Wyoming was closed by regulators Friday, the 53rd U.S. bank failure of 2009 as the credit crisis continues to claim victims.Lander, Wyo.-based Central Bank & Trust has agreed to assume the failed bank's deposits, according to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation.
Bank of Wyoming, the first FDIC-insured bank in that state to fail since 1991, had $70 million in assets and $67 million in deposits as of June 30, the FDIC said.
The FDIC estimated that the cost of the bank's failure to its deposit insurance fund will be $27 million.
This is a fact, not some figment of the GOP imagination.
Sooner or later the Obama supporters are going to have to face the reality that Obama's fiscal policies are failing.
845 | jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:00:03am |
re: #840 jaunte
Wendya posted a good one.
Obama Says Economic Stimulus Plan Worked as Intended
Of course it is. Create the crisis, use the crisis to expand government control.
846 | Mithrax Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:00:13am |
Damn, was only able to reconnect now.
someone trip on a router?
848 | jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:01:39am |
re: #846 Mithrax
Damn, was only able to reconnect now.
someone trip on a router?
Had to uplug it for a minute, needed an outlet for the blender.
849 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:01:53am |
re: #834 Wendya
Because no one to the right of Mao could possibly have any problems with what the democrats are doing in Congress.
I've got to hand it to you. You're pretty slick.
No one was talking about Mao, or Congress, or the Democratic party, or anything but the current state of the GOP....yet you managed to shoehorn in a comment that is about the first three and utterly neglects to mention the actual subject of the ongoing conversation.
850 | Bloodnok Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:02:27am |
re: #847 jaunte
Hmm. Time out for coffee.
Never shall you ask about the whereabouts of the missing 12 minutes.
853 | jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:04:14am |
re: #851 jaunte
"Working as intended" is pretty vague.
RW pointed out upthread. Most of the stimulus doesn't kick in till next year.
Just in time for the mid-terms election.
854 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:04:24am |
Hmmm - was there just a disturbance in the Force? Tried to post a comment, no post, tried to refresh, lost LGF altogether. Checked with "Down For Everyone or just me"[Link: downforeveryoneorjustme.com...] and it said littlegreenfootballs.com was having connection problems.
Anyway, this was what I was trying to post:
re: #777 Walter L. Newton
What's wrong with 'em Walter is simple: they are ususally - I'd bet - much younger than you and can't believe or accept that someone actually, you know, likes to work!All those Walmart Greeters - or at least a lot of 'em - are only doing it cause they need some extra money, but for all that, I've never met one who was surly or unpleasant or who didn't do their jobs properly.
855 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:05:09am |
re: #846 Mithrax
Damn, was only able to reconnect now.
someone trip on a router?
No. a core switch 66.109.9.222 failed in it's external interface..It resides within a Dallas-Ft.Worth Data center....ae-1-.pr0.dfw10 for the hand off...
856 | FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:05:11am |
re: #851 jaunte
"Working as intended" is pretty vague.
And the way the porkulus is working out what was intended seems to point to wanting to crush any possibility of recovery of the economy.
857 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:05:43am |
re: #782 3 wood
Ah yes, Bogie - Maltese Falcon. But I thought he was better in The African Queen myself!
858 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:06:19am |
re: #849 iceweasel
No one was talking about Mao, or Congress, or the Democratic party, or anything but the current state of the GOP....yet you managed to shoehorn in a comment that is about the first three and utterly neglects to mention the actual subject of the ongoing conversation.
Back on topic - sniping, snarking and stalking behavior isn't unique to any political group. I could find a boatload of links to Left-wing blogs filled with all sorts of thoughtless, mean-spirited personal attacks against other posters in a matter of minutes; there's no shortage of them at all.
What does matter, more than any other factor, is effective moderation, which Charles routinely applies here, and which is often absent or lopsided on other forums.
But there's no shortage of it on either side.
859 | VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:07:02am |
re: #857 realwest
Ah yes, Bogie - Maltese Falcon. But I thought he was better in The African Queen myself!
Racist/Homophobe!
861 | John Neverbend Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:07:23am |
re: #51 GNIDAthe#seCond
Good luck with that, PA. I once wasted an evening as an undergraduate listening to this arse wipe giving his views on the Middle East.
862 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:08:01am |
re: #858 SixDegrees
Back on topic - sniping, snarking and stalking behavior isn't unique to any political group. I could find a boatload of links to Left-wing blogs filled with all sorts of thoughtless, mean-spirited personal attacks against other posters in a matter of minutes; there's no shortage of them at all.
What does matter, more than any other factor, is effective moderation, which Charles routinely applies here, and which is often absent or lopsided on other forums.
But there's no shortage of it on either side.
So true. So very true.
863 | jvic Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:08:30am |
re: #771 iceweasel
I don't read secular right or beckner/posner. Should I?
Upding for the question.
For me, the Becker-Posner Blog would take serious effort because the authors are extremely smart and are nominally talking to each other. (Becker is a Nobel Memorial Laureate in Economics.) They make little concession to the rapid-fire nature of the Web. My only complaint is that their mini-essays do not contain hyperlinks.
The Secular Right is what it sounds like: conservatism without a religious basis. I was enthusiastic about the site when it started. Unfortunately the early posts spent way too much time discussing the existence of God or talking about the ideal society without connecting to contemporary conditions. They've gotten a lot better and I should spend more time there, but the aversion I developed early on is hard to get past.
I look forward to your intrusion on my blogospheric privacy. ;-)
864 | Sloppy Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:09:16am |
Shame on me. I enjoy a good Lizard fight. As long as I'm not involved.
866 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:11:15am |
re: #855 HoosierHoops
No. a core switch 66.109.9.222 failed in it's external interface..It resides within a Dallas-Ft.Worth Data center....ae-1-.pr0.dfw10 for the hand off...
That's the same switch that has been bottlenecking the off and on for me during the last two weeks, maybe it finally burp for it's last time.
867 | wrenchwench Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:11:42am |
re: #864 Sloppy
Shame on me. I enjoy a good Lizard fight. As long as I'm not involved.
Sadly, me too. I was staying out of this one, then I couldn't resist and I downdinged iceweasel. Then LGF went down.
I took it as a sign.
Back to work.
868 | itellu3times Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:13:06am |
re: #844 3 wood
So the stimulus is working as planned per Obama?
Wyoming bank is 53rd failure of 2009, 1st in state since 1991This is a fact, not some figment of the GOP imagination.
Sooner or later the Obama supporters are going to have to face the reality that Obama's fiscal policies are failing.
It's all part of Karl Rove's devilish plan to make Obama look bad.
870 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:15:04am |
re: #811 iceweasel
I've made no secret of the fact that I consider 3 wood a good friend and I've e-mailed him about a lot of things.
Only a true narcissist would think that a sentence that says: "um, y'all ought to check your e-mail. And btw, please read comment #746...." would think the e-mail I spoke of had anything to do with her. Course you do love Obama - maybe it's because he's a true narcissist too.
But I am curious - how did you go from a self avowed liberal moonbat (you've since changed your personal description that appears by your avatar but I remember it quite well) who made sense and was literate and thought provoking to the pain in the ass that you are today?
871 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:15:27am |
872 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:16:09am |
It all my fault, I had to run to the post office.
While I was gone, LGF could not function.
sorry
873 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:16:21am |
re: #866 Walter L. Newton
That's the same switch that has been bottlenecking the off and on for me during the last two weeks, maybe it finally burp for it's last time.
dfw10 is a core Cisco switch...I've seen some issues with this data center lately. I'll email the ENO.
874 | albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:16:24am |
re: #865 jcm
"Johnny Reb" comes home!
Welcome home!
Thank you!
one of the truly great sights I've ever seen....crossing the Hampton Roads bridge going south and below us off to the right was the USS Eisenhower slowly moving toward it's berth...I'd never seen a modern carrier before or since...a couple of days later we toured the Navy yard and saw it moored up...good LORD! is that thing huge
875 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:17:19am |
re: #844 3 wood
See also: Economists Raise U.S. Outlook as Recession Fades
The U.S. economy will expand faster than previously forecast in the second half of this year and in 2010 as a revival in consumer spending signals an end to the recession, a Bloomberg News survey showed.Growth will average 1.5 percent in the July-to-December period, compared with last month’s 1.2 percent projection, according to the median of 57 forecasts in the survey taken from July 2 to July 8. The jobless rate will exceed 10 percent early next year and average 9.8 percent for 2010.
Signs of stability in the housing market, improving consumer confidence and smaller declines in auto sales are reinforcing forecasts for gains in consumer purchases. While the recovery is likely to be tempered by job cuts and shrinking household wealth, most economists said a second stimulus package won’t be needed.
“We are on the cusp of stabilization,” said Stephen Stanley, chief economist at RBS Securities Inc. in Stamford, Connecticut. “The right things are happening. They’re not happening fast enough to make everyone comfortable just yet, but we’re certainly headed in the right direction.”
It's a mixed bag. The economy is going to take time to recover.
876 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:17:50am |
re: #866 Walter L. Newton
That's the same switch that has been bottlenecking the off and on for me during the last two weeks, maybe it finally burp for it's last time.
BTW, something else is going on. I'm not on the US west coast, don't have comcast, and am not using the same browser as you and some others who are experiencing slowdown, but I've also been experiencing the same lagtime and at the same times that you, Sharmuta, KT et al have reported slowing.
877 | shiek al beif salami Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:18:56am |
re: #828 3 Sigma E
I've started a movement called P.E.T.O.V. (People for the Ethical Treatment of Vegetables) because I think what hippies do to broccoli and bean sprouts is a damn crime against nature.
878 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:19:17am |
re: #839 razorbacker
Actually, I'd druther be in that foxhole with TFK if you don't mind!
879 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:19:30am |
re: #873 HoosierHoops
dfw10 is a core Cisco switch...I've seen some issues with this data center lately. I'll email the ENO.
It's probably a co-lo for some North Korean routers :)
880 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:20:32am |
re: #876 iceweasel
BTW, something else is going on. I'm not on the US west coast, don't have comcast, and am not using the same browser as you and some others who are experiencing slowdown, but I've also been experiencing the same lagtime and at the same times that you, Sharmuta, KT et al have reported slowing.
Of course not, you are in Bosnia and are working for the communist party as a transgendered Irish milk maid :)
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881 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:21:07am |
re: #840 jaunte
Hey juante! Y'all just don't get it. Only about 10% of the Stimulus Package has been actually spent yet. Obama's saving the rest to release in time to affect the 2010 congressional elections.
882 | Shr_Nfr Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:21:59am |
Did anyone else have LGF drop on them 10 min ago? Other sites worked, so it was either a router in the middle on the network or something else.
883 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:22:29am |
re: #882 Shr_Nfr
Did anyone else have LGF drop on them 10 min ago? Other sites worked, so it was either a router in the middle on the network or something else.
Happened to me.
885 | shiek al beif salami Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:22:43am |
re: #881 realwest
if the next tranche works as well as the first, he'll have to make other public housing arrangements.
887 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:23:10am |
re: #877 shiek al beif salami
I've started a movement called P.E.T.O.V. (People for the Ethical Treatment of Vegetables) because I think what hippies do to broccoli and bean sprouts is a damn crime against nature.
Unlike more merciful carnivores, vegetarians often eat their food while it is still alive.
889 | jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:23:21am |
re: #880 Walter L. Newton
Of course not, you are in Bosnia and are working for the communist party as a transgendered Irish milk maid :)
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NTTATWWT
890 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:23:27am |
re: #882 Shr_Nfr
Did anyone else have LGF drop on them 10 min ago? Other sites worked, so it was either a router in the middle on the network or something else.
It was a core switch in a Dallas DataCenter... 66.109.9.222 crashed
891 | Shr_Nfr Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:24:05am |
re: #887 SixDegrees
In revenge, the bacteria in their gut does the same to them.
892 | John Neverbend Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:24:19am |
re: #882 Shr_Nfr
Did anyone else have LGF drop on them 10 min ago? Other sites worked, so it was either a router in the middle on the network or something else.
Yer.
893 | jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:24:22am |
re: #887 SixDegrees
Unlike more merciful carnivores, vegetarians often eat their food while it is still alive.
895 | opnion Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:24:44am |
Good morning all. Since nothing contentious has happened on this thread, I thought that I would just make an observation about Obama's trip to Ghana. Does anybody else find his visit to a slave staging area ironic?
His father's side of the family are reputed to have been slave traders & slave holders on his mother's side. Just seems ironic.
896 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:24:53am |
re: #873 HoosierHoops
dfw10 is a core Cisco switch...I've seen some issues with this data center lately. I'll email the ENO.
We could always go back to those Western Electric patch-panels -- plugs, jacks and wires.
*duck*
897 | jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:25:29am |
re: #890 HoosierHoops
It was a core switch in a Dallas DataCenter... 66.109.9.222 crashed
Damn Norks!
This means WAR!
///
898 | jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:25:53am |
re: #896 pre-Boomer Marine brat
We could always go back to those Western Electric patch-panels -- plugs, jacks and wires.
*duck*
Think of the jobs that would create!
900 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:26:08am |
re: #890 HoosierHoops
It was a core switch in a Dallas DataCenter... 66.109.9.222 crashed
WAS it here in Dallas!
That explains why Wiki was crawling thru the mud too.
901 | jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:26:21am |
re: #881 realwest
Hey juante! Y'all just don't get it. Only about 10% of the Stimulus Package has been actually spent yet. Obama's saving the rest to release in time to affect the 2010 congressional elections.
I'm going to spend mine on a wheelbarrow to carry my cash around in.
Image: hyperinflation.jpg
902 | shiek al beif salami Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:26:34am |
re: #891 Shr_Nfr
At least Cap and Trade will force them to pay for their methane sins - - right?
903 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:26:45am |
re: #870 realwest
I've made no secret of the fact that I consider 3 wood a good friend and I've e-mailed him about a lot of things.
Only a true narcissist would think(snip)
But I am curious - how did you go from a self avowed liberal moonbat (you've since changed your personal description that appears by your avatar but I remember it quite well) who made sense and was literate and thought provoking to the pain in the ass that you are today?
Only a true narcissist would imagine I know, or care, about who you email-- or that I should somehow 'know' who you email already.
I responded to your post, which mentioned a post about me.
As to your last paragraph, which I have quoted here: I'm curious, can you explain to me again how I'M the narcissist, when you're the one who has admittedly memorised my initial personal description?
I'm sorry, I still have no idea who you are unless I check yours. I do know I wouldn't say anything as nasty to you as you've just said to me.
904 | Pianobuff Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:26:46am |
re: #895 opnion
Good morning all. Since nothing contentious has happened on this thread, I thought that I would just make an observation about Obama's trip to Ghana. Does anybody else find his visit to a slave staging area ironic?
His father's side of the family are reputed to have been slave traders & slave holders on his mother's side. Just seems ironic.
Don't know if you saw this.....
Obama: Daughters should learn from slave tour
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CAPE COAST, Ghana (AP) -- President Barack Obama says he hopes his family's tour of a former slave fortress on the coast of Ghana shows his daughters that history can take very cruel turns.
Eleven-year-old Malia and eight-year-old Sasha accompanied Obama on a tour of Cape Coast Castle Saturday.
Speaking afterward, Obama said his daughters are "growing up in such a blessed way." He said one of the things he hopes they picked up from the tour is a sense of their obligation to fight oppression and cruelty everywhere.
Cape Coast Castle was the place where shackled Africans were held in squalid dungeons before they were shipped off into slavery.
906 | John Neverbend Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:27:25am |
907 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:27:47am |
re: #896 pre-Boomer Marine brat
We could always go back to those Western Electric patch-panels -- plugs, jacks and wires.
*duck*
This trace was started on Jul 11, 2009 10:25:19 AM. The host 'www.littlegreenfootballs.com' (known as 74.86.198.236-static.reverse.softlayer.com) has been found, and is reachable in 11 hops. Also, it responded to HTTP requests on port 80 (it is running server Apache, which responded in 94ms). The TTL value of packets received from it is 55. In general this route offers a good throughput, with hops responding on average within 30ms. However, hop 4 in network '[Network for 68.86.91.17]' is noticeably slower than others. The DNS lookup was completed almost instantaneously (less than 2ms - this may be the result of caching).
908 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:27:47am |
re: #895 opnion
Good morning all. Since nothing contentious has happened on this thread, I thought that I would just make an observation about Obama's trip to Ghana. Does anybody else find his visit to a slave staging area ironic?
His father's side of the family are reputed to have been slave traders & slave holders on his mother's side. Just seems ironic.
He is campaigning thru-out the world. I saw the headlines about this trip and just shook my head.
909 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:28:08am |
re: #900 pre-Boomer Marine brat
WAS it here in Dallas!
That explains why Wiki was crawling thru the mud too.
The exact infrastructure drop point was at:
ae-1-0.pr0.dfw10.tbone.rr.com
They rebooted the core switch
910 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:28:38am |
re: #895 opnion
His father's side of the family are reputed to have been slave traders & slave holders on his mother's side. Just seems ironic.
I don't think that's true. His heritage is from eastern Africa, right? They weren't involved in the slave trade with the West. Most American presidents who can trace their heritage in the US back far enough were probably connected to slave owners. BUsh's family was rumored to have connection to Nazi germany. Take all that crap with a grain of salt.
911 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:29:10am |
re: #909 HoosierHoops
The exact infrastructure drop point was at:
ae-1-0.pr0.dfw10.tbone.rr.com
They rebooted the core switch
My last trace route avoided that switch.
BBIAB - (cleaning up some stuff, need to pop next door to Walgreens).
912 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:29:28am |
913 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:29:39am |
re: #880 Walter L. Newton
Of course not, you are in Bosnia and are working for the communist party as a transgendered Irish milk maid :)
///////////////////
GodDAMMIT! I hate when ACORN and the aliens mindwipe me and repatriate me. AGAIN!
///which set of genitals do I have NOW? And where do I vote today?
914 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:30:04am |
re: #874 albusteve
Hey my friend! The best Navy thing I ever saw was when I went to the Pearl Harbor Memorial (Arizona) and berthed directly opposite it was the USS Missouri.
The Arizona of course marked the beginning of WWII and the Missouri was where the Japanese signed the unconditional surrender documents.
I was scrambling all over the launch (curiously enough, filled with Japanese civilians) to get both in the same frame of my camera!
And while at the Arizona Memorial, a Japanese guy standing next to me, reading the list of names of those buried under our feet, started crying - saying "Why did this have to happen".
It was a quite moving experience.
915 | shiek al beif salami Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:30:18am |
re: #895 opnion
I once visited the same slave fort at the same time a group of American tourists of OBama's persuasion was there. Boy, did I ever get the white man original sin stares.
Oh, and remind me when it was the we elected O'Bama to be the Humble Magnificent King and Champion of the Universe?
916 | jorline Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:31:21am |
Houston...do we have a problem?
I had a lot of problems yesterday connecting to LGF.
Morning Roosters!
917 | FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:31:26am |
Man charged with blasting porn soundtrack
Published: July 11, 2009 at 1:58 AM
PHOENIXVILLE, Pa., July 11 (UPI) -- A Pennsylvania man who blasted a street full of children at play with the soundtrack from a pornographic film has been ordered to apologize.
Michael Buck of Phoenixville faces a charge of corrupting minors, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported. A judge said at a preliminary hearing this week the charge will be dismissed if Buck fulfills his obligations within 90 days.
918 | jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:31:57am |
re: #910 Killgore Trout
No connection to Obama, but not all slave trading happened with the West.
British pressure finally forced Zanzibar's ruler, in 1873, to close his slave markets and forbid the export of slaves from his dominions. However, enforcement was not easy, until an agreement was made by the great powers in 1890 to police the coast effectively. As late as the 1970's, the United Nations was receiving complaints of a thriving trade in black slaves in East Africa[Link: history.howstuffworks.com...]
920 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:32:42am |
re: #911 Walter L. Newton
My last trace route avoided that switch.
BBIAB - (cleaning up some stuff, need to pop next door to Walgreens).
DFW10 is passing traffic... The load balancer probably kicked your route to the curb....Any mail today? Or is it Monday?
921 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:32:46am |
922 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:32:57am |
re: #885 shiek al beif salami
if the next tranche works as well as the first, he'll have to make other public housing arrangements.
Oh that'll be no problemo! He'll use the now vacant trailers that we put up after Katrina hit and destroyed New Orleans! Rent free!
Oh, wait, those trailers are still full, my bad.
923 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:33:21am |
re: #918 jaunte
No connection to Obama, but not all slave trading happened with the West.
Slave trade is alive and well.
and it pi!sses me off!
924 | irongrampa Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:33:46am |
Drive-bypost,sorry-but if any here espouse/voted for Obama and his policies, then I submit you're either grossly misinformed or deliberately disingenuous.
Make whatever of that you wish.
925 | jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:33:47am |
re: #913 iceweasel
GodDAMMIT! I hate when ACORN and the aliens mindwipe me and repatriate me. AGAIN!
///which set of genitals do I have NOW? And where do I vote today?
ATTENTION
Reset required on subject 13R5692.
Report soonest cause of program error.
Contain incident to subject 13R5692 and immediate contacts.
Initiate rumor control.
THAT IS ALL.
926 | albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:34:29am |
re: #914 realwest
Hey my friend! The best Navy thing I ever saw was when I went to the Pearl Harbor Memorial (Arizona) and berthed directly opposite it was the USS Missouri.
The Arizona of course marked the beginning of WWII and the Missouri was where the Japanese signed the unconditional surrender documents.
I was scrambling all over the launch (curiously enough, filled with Japanese civilians) to get both in the same frame of my camera!
And while at the Arizona Memorial, a Japanese guy standing next to me, reading the list of names of those buried under our feet, started crying - saying "Why did this have to happen".
It was a quite moving experience.
never been to Pearl...probably never will but all say it's a very stirring place...the Wall in DC definately moves me to tears....anyway I like big ass ships...Patriots Point, Norfolk, Mobile all have old timers to tour, and there are many more
927 | debutaunt Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:34:43am |
re: #870 realwest
I've made no secret of the fact that I consider 3 wood a good friend and I've e-mailed him about a lot of things.
Only a true narcissist would think that a sentence that says: "um, y'all ought to check your e-mail. And btw, please read comment #746...." would think the e-mail I spoke of had anything to do with her. Course you do love Obama - maybe it's because he's a true narcissist too.
But I am curious - how did you go from a self avowed liberal moonbat (you've since changed your personal description that appears by your avatar but I remember it quite well) who made sense and was literate and thought provoking to the pain in the ass that you are today?
Icehole?
928 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:34:53am |
re: #910 Killgore Trout
I don't think that's true. His heritage is from eastern Africa, right? They weren't involved in the slave trade with the West. Most American presidents who can trace their heritage in the US back far enough were probably connected to slave owners. BUsh's family was rumored to have connection to Nazi germany. Take all that crap with a grain of salt.
Also-- it's America. The unique feature of America at its founding was the idea that all people were created equal, and that we get to forge our own identity independently of who our parents or family were.
I don't care what Obama's ancestors did, just like I don't care what Bush's family ties might have been to Nazi germany. If they existed, it's not W's fault. If Obama's familiy was involved in the slave trade it wouldn't be his fault either.
929 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:35:11am |
re: #907 Walter L. Newton
This trace was started on Jul 11, 2009 10:25:19 AM. The host 'www.littlegreenfootballs.com' (known as 74.86.198.236-static.reverse.softlayer.com) has been found, and is reachable in 11 hops. Also, it responded to HTTP requests on port 80 (it is running server Apache, which responded in 94ms). The TTL value of packets received from it is 55. In general this route offers a good throughput, with hops responding on average within 30ms. However, hop 4 in network '[Network for 68.86.91.17]' is noticeably slower than others. The DNS lookup was completed almost instantaneously (less than 2ms - this may be the result of caching).
GAH! ... looks like whatever it is is caching!
/wondering if I should take the Clorox into the shower
930 | opnion Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:35:14am |
re: #910 Killgore Trout
I don't think that's true. His heritage is from eastern Africa, right? They weren't involved in the slave trade with the West. Most American presidents who can trace their heritage in the US back far enough were probably connected to slave owners. BUsh's family was rumored to have connection to Nazi germany. Take all that crap with a grain of salt.
African Americans are mainly decended from West Africans.
The East Afrrican slave trade was geared toward Arab lands.
Slave trading is slave trading.
931 | VegasRick Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:35:22am |
re: #904 Pianobuff
Don't know if you saw this.....
Obama: Daughters should learn from slave tour
AP Photo
AP Photo/Charles Dharapak
Watch Related VideoObama in Ghana: Africa Fundamental Part of World
Advertisement
AP AUDIO
President Barack Obama says boosting foreign assistance to Africa is in everyone's best interest.
AP AUDIO
President Barack Obama says Ghana and other African nations must be part of the world this century.
AP AUDIO
President Barack Obama says Ghana has a rich history.
Buy AP Photo ReprintsInteractives
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Barack Obama: The AP interview
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First 100 days: Day-by-day interactive calendar
First 100 days: Michelle Obama's style
Interactive map: Obama's travels
Obama's West Wing
Latest News
Obama: Daughters should learn from slave tourObama rejects 2nd stimulus: Give recovery time
Text of Obama's speech in Ghana
Obama declares to Africa: End tyranny, corruption
WHITE HOUSE NOTEBOOK: Obama's whirlwind Ghana tour
Your Questions Answered
Ask AP: Less piracy, recovering auto bailout moneyCAPE COAST, Ghana (AP) -- President Barack Obama says he hopes his family's tour of a former slave fortress on the coast of Ghana shows his daughters that history can take very cruel turns.
Eleven-year-old Malia and eight-year-old Sasha accompanied Obama on a tour of Cape Coast Castle Saturday.
Speaking afterward, Obama said his daughters are "growing up in such a blessed way." He said one of the things he hopes they picked up from the tour is a sense of their obligation to fight oppression and cruelty everywhere.
Cape Coast Castle was the place where shackled Africans were held in squalid dungeons before they were shipped off into slavery.
Has zero taken the girls to see any of the death camps in Germany? Just wondering.
932 | shiek al beif salami Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:35:26am |
re: #922 realwest
The public housing problem I referred to is his own, if he doesn't get elected. But the Katrina trailers is a good idea. He could park several of them close together and roof over the gaps between with those blue Home Depot tarps.
933 | FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:36:05am |
Pennies from Heaven, cool!
Treasure hunters search for meteorite
Published: July 11, 2009 at 1:36 AM
YORK, Pa., July 11 (UPI) -- Treasure hunters are searching Maryland and Pennsylvania for something they say might fetch a higher price than gold -- pieces of a meteorite.
The Mason-Dixon meteorite was sighted Monday night, The Baltimore Sun reported.
934 | Mithrax Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:36:33am |
re: #913 iceweasel
GodDAMMIT! I hate when ACORN and the aliens mindwipe me and repatriate me. AGAIN!
///which set of genitals do I have NOW? And where do I vote today?
Must. not. comment.....
935 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:36:37am |
Well, I hope I don't upset any carnivores, but I'm sitting here eating a bowl of fruit that I just bought at the Farmer's Market. Straight up. I think I just had some blackberry juice dripping off my chin.
(How do I sleep at night?)
936 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:37:11am |
re: #909 HoosierHoops
The exact infrastructure drop point was at:
ae-1-0.pr0.dfw10.tbone.rr.com
They rebooted the core switch
"tbone"?
Ya' think th' FBI's Carnivorie was involved somehow?
937 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:37:38am |
re: #893 jcm
LOL!
Sickening to watch, isn't it? How could you ever eat vegetables again after watching that?
938 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:37:45am |
re: #935 EmmmieG
Well, I hope I don't upset any carnivores, but I'm sitting here eating a bowl of fruit that I just bought at the Farmer's Market. Straight up. I think I just had some blackberry juice dripping off my chin.
(How do I sleep at night?)
I'm eating cottage cheese and peaches
/life is good
939 | jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:38:07am |
re: #935 EmmmieG
Well, I hope I don't upset any carnivores, but I'm sitting here eating a bowl of fruit that I just bought at the Farmer's Market. Straight up. I think I just had some blackberry juice dripping off my chin.
(How do I sleep at night?)
Oh! Noes!
A vegan troll!
Quick fire up the BBQ, throw a side of beef on it!
///////
940 | apachegunner Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:38:20am |
re: #938 HoosierHoops
and I am drinking a cold beer, life is bettah!
941 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:38:39am |
re: #926 albusteve
never been to Pearl...probably never will but all say it's a very stirring place...the Wall in DC definately moves me to tears....anyway I like big ass ships...Patriots Point, Norfolk, Mobile all have old timers to tour, and there are many more
If you ever get a chance to go to Pearl, you should.Words don't describe it.
Although the Wall in DC is probably the most moving war memorial (non-Holocaust) that I have ever seen. I never can visit it without crying, and I never cry.
942 | shiek al beif salami Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:38:47am |
re: #931 VegasRick
Has he taken them to see the killing fields of Rwanda? The death camp that is Zimbabwe? The ethnic cleansing that is Sudan? The horrors that are Liberia and Sierra Leone? No?
943 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:38:59am |
944 | wrenchwench Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:39:20am |
re: #903 iceweasel
Only a true narcissist would imagine I know, or care, about who you email-- or that I should somehow 'know' who you email already.
I responded to your post, which mentioned a post about me.
As to your last paragraph, which I have quoted here: I'm curious, can you explain to me again how I'M the narcissist, when you're the one who has admittedly memorised my initial personal description?
I'm sorry, I still have no idea who you are unless I check yours. I do know I wouldn't say anything as nasty to you as you've just said to me.
Some of us have been hanging around here for years. We check out the newbies. Who knows, we may be conversing with them far into the future, so we check 'em out. A self-description like the one you had kinda sticks out.
Some of us are very familiar with others' postings here, and can forget that the newbies are not. You can fight with whomever you want, but when you impugn folks like realwest and 3 wood, you might get a nasty reaction.
946 | opnion Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:39:40am |
re: #915 shiek al beif salami
I once visited the same slave fort at the same time a group of American tourists of OBama's persuasion was there. Boy, did I ever get the white man original sin stares.
Oh, and remind me when it was the we elected O'Bama to be the Humble Magnificent King and Champion of the Universe?
I visited a slave staging fort in the Carribean. Terrible place, leg irons etc.
Slavery was & remains a terrible institution, but was not solely an American problem , as it is sometimes made out to be.
947 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:39:47am |
re: #922 realwest
Oh that'll be no problemo! He'll use the now vacant trailers that we put up after Katrina hit and destroyed New Orleans! Rent free!
Oh, wait, those trailers are still full, my bad.
Some of them are, indeed, Realwest, and some people are getting sick from it, because those travel trailers were not meant to be lived in for extended periods of time, and emit some some sort of fumes from the materials that is not good to live in for extended periods.
Some artchitects have come up with the concept of "katrina cottages", small one or two room homes that cost less to place on a piece of property than a trailer of any kind, PLUS the home is a permanent one, PLUS the plans include the ability to expand the home as people begin to collect their insurance and recover.
It seems to me, instead of purchasing trailers and then leasing land to put them on, the gov't would do better to provide all or part of the cost of a Katrina Cottage, on the person's own lot. Then the gov't is finished, out of it and the individual can take it from there.
But there is some sort of legal prohibition against providing "permanent" housing, so the Govt is required to do the trailer thing.
948 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:39:57am |
re: #917 FurryOldGuyJeans
fulfills his obligations within 90 days
How about ... "fulfills his obligations for 90 days" ?
/consecutively, loudly, and in public
949 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:41:30am |
re: #945 apachegunner
going well hoops, thanks. you?"
It's storming here... so much for a saturday by the pool...
950 | itellu3times Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:41:32am |
there was a young router from dallas
used a static address to connect us
but LGF bucked
and the packets disrupt
and the thread tied us up and just left us.
951 | albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:41:41am |
re: #941 iceweasel
If you ever get a chance to go to Pearl, you should.Words don't describe it.
Although the Wall in DC is probably the most moving war memorial (non-Holocaust) that I have ever seen. I never can visit it without crying, and I never cry.
another memorial that is very cool imo is the newer Korean War Mem on the Mall....full size bronze GIs moving along....an night they are faintly lit up from below ground...very lifelike...the whole thing is a masterpiece
952 | FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:41:47am |
Drunk badger disrupts traffic
Thu Jul 9, 2009 6:53pm EDT
BERLIN (Reuters) - A badger in Germany got so drunk on over-ripe cherries it staggered into the middle of a road and refused to budge, police said on Wednesday.
953 | jorline Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:41:59am |
re: #935 EmmmieG
Well, I hope I don't upset any carnivores, but I'm sitting here eating a bowl of fruit that I just bought at the Farmer's Market. Straight up. I think I just had some blackberry juice dripping off my chin.
(How do I sleep at night?)
Knock it off and pass the meat!
//
954 | John Neverbend Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:42:04am |
re: #914 realwest
And while at the Arizona Memorial, a Japanese guy standing next to me, reading the list of names of those buried under our feet, started crying - saying "Why did this have to happen".
It was a quite moving experience.
I have just finished reading a book that I can recommend. It's a new biography of General Curtis LeMay, written by Warren Kozak. Before I read it, I thought I knew everything there was to know about LeMay, i.e.
1. He had threatened to bomb North Vietnam "back to the stone age".
2. Generals Ripper and Turgidson in Doctor Strangelove were both based on him.
3. That's all.
Well, it turns out he didn't make the threat in 1. and, if you believe what's written in the bio, he wasn't the bomb-happy warmonger that some people made him out to be. He had many arguments with McNamara about defence plans (LeMay wanted a new bomber to replace the B-52, but McNamara wanted to build missiles), and I think that McNamara may have helped to foster the idea that LeMay was a sort of psychotic cave man (I.F. Stone used the word cave-man in a rather barbed article). There's a 90 minute video of the Pritzker Institute interview with the author (60 minutes of talk + 30 minutes for questions).
The author doesn't gloss over LeMay's bad decisions, one of the most obvious being his decision to run with George Wallace.
955 | apachegunner Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:42:08am |
re: #950 itellu3times
damn, going on 85 here up to 92 or so
956 | J.D. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:42:25am |
Back from the bank, drugstore, and Chik Fil-a to get my almost daily cool wrap.
Are we happy yet?
:-D
957 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:42:58am |
re: #903 iceweasel
Well let's see here, shall we: you said "Ooh, email?
Sure. 3wood should rethink his objective opinion based on some scurrilous email rumour you won't post here.
That makes sense."[emphasis added realwest]
Then you said "Only a true narcissist would imagine I know, or care, about who you email-- or that I should somehow 'know' who you email already."
As for remembering your the first version of your personal information, it's because you are the first person out here to ever admit - much less put in your personal information - that you are a moonbat.
It wasn't readily apparent from your post which I recall was a good one and so thought provoking that I ever even looked at your personal information.
And I find it incredibly interesting that you think that was nasty. It was simply the truth.
958 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:43:10am |
Nobody willing to appear on panel with Robert Spencer.....
CAIR: Library Group Panelists Withdraw Over Role of Islam-Basher
The Chicago office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-Chicago) today announced that all other panelists scheduled to speak at an American Library Association (ALA) annual conference session on stereotyping of Islam have withdrawn in protest over the participation of Robert Spencer, one of the nation's leading Islam-bashers.
959 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:43:17am |
re: #809 3 wood
Great news!
Obama Says Economic Stimulus Plan Worked as IntendedThis from the same guy who said that the stimulus plan would keep unemployment at 8% or less. Over 2 million people have lost jobs since he came into office.
And now he wants you to believe it worked as intended. And he's trying to spin this as tax relief.
Wow.
The Audacity of Arrogance
or maybe
The Audacity of Bullshit
/he knows his blind faith followers will follow him off the cliff.
960 | jorline Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:43:35am |
re: #939 jcm
Oh! Noes!
Avegan trollCalifornia Roll!
Quick fire up the BBQ, throw a side of beef on it!///////
961 | shiek al beif salami Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:44:00am |
re: #947 reine.de.tout
Or they could do those prefab Soviet-style apartments that are so not permanent. And put huge spotlights on top of high towers. And play Internationale over the local mosque speakers.
963 | FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:44:46am |
re: #959 FrogMarch
The Audacity of Arrogance
or maybe
The Audacity of Bullshit/he knows his blind faith followers will follow him off the cliff.
Throwing anyone who resists believing in the power and magnificence of Our Man Obama off first.
964 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:45:08am |
re: #809 3 wood
Great news!
Obama Says Economic Stimulus Plan Worked as Intended....
And now he wants you to believe it worked as intended. And he's trying to spin this as tax relief.
Wow.
Obama's "I'm giving 95% of you a tax cut" lie worked pretty well for him. If a big lie works, keep pimping it.
966 | jaunte Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:45:36am |
re: #947 reine.de.tout
But there is some sort of legal prohibition against providing "permanent" housing, so the Govt is required to do the trailer thing.
Maybe they can mount some small wheels on the corners of the cottages, and designate them parked vehicles.
967 | apachegunner Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:46:01am |
re: #965 realwest
mornin rw hope the day finds you and yours well :>)
968 | FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:46:01am |
Polarizing money dispute settled
Thu Jul 9, 2009 10:06am EDT
By Caroline Copley
BERLIN (Reuters) - An ugly dispute between the Berlin Zoo and a provincial rival over celebrity polar bear Knut was settled out of court on Wednesday when Berlin agreed to pay the Neumuenster Zoo a cash settlement of $600,000.
Knut's father Lars was only on loan to Berlin and the Neumuenster Zoo wanted a share of the royalties from the improbable fortune created by Knut, who had captivated worldwide attention for surviving after his mother rejected him at birth.
969 | opnion Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:46:42am |
re: #958 Killgore Trout
Nobody willing to appear on panel with Robert Spencer.....
CAIR: Library Group Panelists Withdraw Over Role of Islam-Basher
My, my CAIR has delicate sensibilities. They will not be on a panel with Spenser but hanging with & supporing terrorists is not a problem.
970 | jcm Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:46:45am |
re: #968 FurryOldGuyJeans
Polarizing money dispute settled
Thu Jul 9, 2009 10:06am EDT
By Caroline Copley
I can't bear watching family squabbles.
971 | Mithrax Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:47:03am |
re: #968 FurryOldGuyJeans
Polarizing money dispute settled
Thu Jul 9, 2009 10:06am EDT
By Caroline Copley
$600k?
*puts on a bear costume*
972 | Bloodnok Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:47:13am |
re: #958 Killgore Trout
Nobody willing to appear on panel with Robert Spencer.....
CAIR: Library Group Panelists Withdraw Over Role of Islam-Basher
Wow. I'm no fan of CAIR, but I'm glad people (besides Charles and a few others) are standing up to him.
973 | Chicken Kiev Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:47:22am |
946 opnion
Slavery was & remains a terrible institution, but was not solely an American problem , as it is sometimes made out to be.
The USA is the only country to have fought a civil war over slavery. And the anti-slavery side WON. This is America, the country of which BHO and WAB are so ashamed.
974 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:47:34am |
re: #951 albusteve
another memorial that is very cool imo is the newer Korean War Mem on the Mall....full size bronze GIs moving along....an night they are faintly lit up from below ground...very lifelike...the whole thing is a masterpiece
I haven't seen that yet. I've only been to DC a few times, never been there for a long visit, and not recently. I still have never even been to Smithsonian!
I'll add that to my list of things to do in DC for sure.
I would love to go for a week (I'm a museum person). Every time I am there I always make sure to go to the Vietnam Memorial and the Lincoln memorial no matter what, even if it's just briefly, and both make me cry every time.
975 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:47:38am |
Spencer sez.....
CAIR's press release about the other three panelists dropping out is here. It repeats many of the same libels and innuendos that I answered here, although it is noteworthy that this latest from CAIR contains no mention of the lies and hate site "Little Green Footballs." Maybe CAIR realized how silly it sounded to invoke something called "Little Green Footballs" as an authority -- or maybe the falsehoods manufactured by the ridiculous Charles Johnson proved to be too flimsy and implausible even for those old hands at truth-twisting at CAIR.
976 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:47:46am |
re: #927 debutaunt
No, I don't think we should go that route. I don't think personal attacks on iceweasel are advised at all.
977 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:47:48am |
re: #968 FurryOldGuyJeans
Polarizing money dispute settled
Thu Jul 9, 2009 10:06am EDT
By Caroline Copley
Ice can't bear to read that.
978 | FrogMarch Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:47:57am |
re: #963 FurryOldGuyJeans
Throwing anyone who resists believing in the power and magnificence of Our Man Obama off first.
*another one bites the dust*
979 | albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:48:17am |
re: #962 jcm
any 'progress' he alludes to is on the backs of the US taxpayers...90% of Africa is a self induced, self perpetuating wasteland
980 | apachegunner Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:48:24am |
WAB? does that stand for "wide ass bitch"?
981 | FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:48:36am |
re: #964 FrogMarch
Obama's "I'm giving 95% of you a tax cut" lie worked pretty well for him. If a big lie works, keep pimping it.
It is not a lie when Our Man Obama speaks something not true, according to his believers.
982 | itellu3times Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:48:48am |
983 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:48:49am |
re: #969 opnion
It was the other panelists who refused to appear with Spencer, not CAIR.
984 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:49:23am |
re: #969 opnion
A rejection by CAIR is the best endorsement anyone can get, if you ask me.
985 | Truck Monkey Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:49:32am |
re: #877 shiek al beif salami
I've started a movement called P.E.T.O.V. (People for the Ethical Treatment of Vegetables) because I think what hippies do to broccoli and bean sprouts is a damn crime against nature.
Do you know that Baby Carrots actually cry when ripped out of the ground, seperating them from their mothers? Don't get me started talking about Arugala.
986 | Bloodnok Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:50:26am |
re: #975 Killgore Trout
Spencer sez.....
And therein is revealed the true source of Spencer's mania. Well, that and being a fascist sympathizer.
987 | SixDegrees Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:50:37am |
re: #939 jcm
Oh! Noes!
A vegan troll!
Quick fire up the BBQ, throw a side of beef on it!///////
I'm thinking tomorrow would be a good day to smoke some pork shoulder and baby back ribs. Time to prepare some rub...
988 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:50:41am |
re: #947 reine.de.tout
Some of them are, indeed, Realwest, and some people are getting sick from it, because those travel trailers were not meant to be lived in for extended periods of time, and emit some some sort of fumes from the materials that is not good to live in for extended periods.
Some artchitects have come up with the concept of "katrina cottages", small one or two room homes that cost less to place on a piece of property than a trailer of any kind, PLUS the home is a permanent one, PLUS the plans include the ability to expand the home as people begin to collect their insurance and recover.
It seems to me, instead of purchasing trailers and then leasing land to put them on, the gov't would do better to provide all or part of the cost of a Katrina Cottage, on the person's own lot. Then the gov't is finished, out of it and the individual can take it from there.
But there is some sort of legal prohibition against providing "permanent" housing, so the Govt is required to do the trailer thing.
I watched some of the Congressional hearings on the FEMA trailers and it is truly a problem. I didn't understnd why they just couldn't replace the toxic trailers with non-toxic trailers.
989 | Bloodnok Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:51:33am |
re: #984 Lincolntf
A rejection by CAIR is the best endorsement anyone can get, if you ask me.
In Spencer's case do you think an "endorsement" is a good thing?
990 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:51:41am |
re: #987 SixDegrees
I'm thinking tomorrow would be a good day to smoke some pork shoulder and baby back ribs. Time to prepare some rub...
It's always a good day for ribs, although Father's Day is probably the best day for ribs, at least around this house.
991 | opnion Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:52:03am |
re: #973 Chicken Kiev
946 opnion
The USA is the only country to have fought a civil war over slavery. And the anti-slavery side WON. This is America, the country of which BHO and WAB are so ashamed.
I have mentioned it before, I live in an area with Civil War Cemeteries full of young men (18 & 19) who served with Sherman.
Michelle Obama should visit those sites & might find a second reason to be proud of her country.
992 | albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:52:27am |
re: #981 FurryOldGuyJeans
It is not a lie when Our Man Obama speaks something not true, according to his believers.
yes, failure is progress....taxation is prosperity...destroy it to save it
993 | DEZes Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:52:29am |
re: #985 Truck Monkey
Do you know that Baby Carrots actually cry when ripped out of the ground, seperating them from their mothers? Don't get me started talking about Arugala.
And how does cabbage feel when you cut off its head?
How about an artichoke when we cut out its heart.
/Savages.
994 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:52:37am |
re: #957 realwest
As for remembering your the first version of your personal information, it's because you are the first person out here to ever admit - much less put in your personal information - that you are a moonbat.
You're nuts.
I didn't call myself a moonbat. Other people here identified, and still identify, themselves as 'liberal' in their personal info.
The fact that you 'remember' mine, and the fact that you misremember mine, is a damn good proof that you're projecting onto me some weird fantasy about what 'moonbats' are. You're even projected onto me the fantasy that I identified as a 'moonbat', and that no-one else, EVER EVER, has called themself a 'liberal' here.
Weird, dude. WEIRD.
995 | John Neverbend Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:52:38am |
re: #51 GNIDAthe#seCond
It may be an ongoing site problem, but when I click on your avatar, I get a message saying that the computer can't find your name in the LGF repository.
996 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:52:44am |
re: #933 FurryOldGuyJeans
Pennies from Heaven, cool!
Treasure hunters search for meteorite
Published: July 11, 2009 at 1:36 AM
Huh, I missed that fall. I haven't been on my meteorite collection blogs in a while, been too busy getting ready to move.
yep, worth a lot more than gold if they find anything. Harder than you imagine to pinpoint a meteor fall.
997 | reine.de.tout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:53:11am |
re: #988 ggt
I watched some of the Congressional hearings on the FEMA trailers and it is truly a problem. I didn't understnd why they just couldn't replace the toxic trailers with non-toxic trailers.
The "toxic" has to do with the materials they use to build and outfit the trailers = the wall and carpet materials and others - similar to what causes that "new car" smell in new cars.
The problem with the trailers is that it's OK to be in one of those for a week or two, but long-term residence is not good.
998 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:53:17am |
re: #985 Truck Monkey
Do you know that Baby Carrots actually cry when ripped out of the ground, seperating them from their mothers? Don't get me started talking about Arugala.
Thinking of how I fed Gerbers to my infant daughter makes me want to turnip my toes and DIE !
999 | shiek al beif salami Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:53:53am |
re: #985 Truck Monkey
Baby carrots are kept in forced physical confinement, force-fed, and shielded from all natural light source.
1000 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:54:32am |
re: #974 iceweasel
I haven't seen that yet. I've only been to DC a few times, never been there for a long visit, and not recently. I still have never even been to Smithsonian!
I'll add that to my list of things to do in DC for sure.
I would love to go for a week (I'm a museum person). Every time I am there I always make sure to go to the Vietnam Memorial and the Lincoln memorial no matter what, even if it's just briefly, and both make me cry every time.
I was working TDY at Pearl during the 50th aniverery cerimony.Bush 1 was there...I remember it was a tuesday and all gov't workers got the day off...Most went to see Bush...I went to my one and only time to see the Arizona...Very moving....
1001 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:54:34am |
re: #986 Bloodnok
He accepts no responsibility for his own actions and associations. I have no sympathy for him. He could have very easily decided to not endorse Euronazis and other ethnic nationalist movements.
1002 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:54:57am |
re: #989 Bloodnok
I've never read his books, so I don't know much about him. Maybe I'll give them a try.
"The Council on Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago (CIOGC), a coalition of more than 50 Muslim organizations, also joined CAIR-Chicago, the other ALA panelists and a number of librarians and academics in calling on ALA to drop Spencer from the July 12 panel titled "Perspectives on Islam: Beyond the Stereotyping."
If they were really concerned about changing "stereotypes" wouldn't they welcome the views of someone who purportedly propagates them? Makes me think they fear any views that aren't 100% in line with their political agenda.
1003 | albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:55:06am |
re: #996 Walter L. Newton
Huh, I missed that fall. I haven't been on my meteorite collection blogs in a while, been too busy getting ready to move.
yep, worth a lot more than gold if they find anything. Harder than you imagine to pinpoint a meteor fall.
looking for them is a waste of time...I waiting for a stout 200 pounder to land in my back yard...I could use the cash
1004 | FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:55:20am |
Woman not robbed, just given fake crack, police say
By Keith Niebuhr, Times Staff Writer
Posted: Jul 10, 2009 01:22 PM
CLEARWATER — Police have arrested a Clearwater woman they say claimed she was robbed but actually was given fake crack during a drug transaction.
1005 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:56:08am |
crap...I forgot about spell check last post...
1006 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:56:13am |
re: #947 reine.de.tout
Hey, thank reine! I didn't know any of that! I especially didn't know that "But there is some sort of legal prohibition against providing "permanent" housing, so the Govt is required to do the trailer thing."
Whoever wrote that rule, regulation or law is an ass. And I don't care if it was Repub or Dem, Federal or State. It's just stupid.
Course, you'd run into problems with housing folks who were apartment renters in N.O. before Katrina wiped them out. There it makes more sense to say that the government can't provide "permanent housing"; it should only be restoring folks to whatever residential status they had before Katrina.
1007 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:56:52am |
I posted this earlier and someone else did a little later, just in case you missed it, this has to be one of the most outrageous statement made yet by Obama and his administration...
Obama Says Economic Stimulus Plan Worked as Intended (Update2)
uly 11 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama said his $787 billion stimulus bill “has worked as intended” as he pushed back against Republican criticism that his recovery program has failed to rescue the economy.
“It has already extended unemployment insurance and health insurance to those who have lost their jobs in this recession,” Obama, who is traveling today in Ghana, said in his weekly Saturday radio and Web address. “It has delivered $43 billion in tax relief to American working families and business.”
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]
(I don't even need to make a snarky comment, it says it all for itself).
1008 | J.D. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:57:01am |
1009 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:57:17am |
re: #979 albusteve
any 'progress' he alludes to is on the backs of the US taxpayers...90% of Africa is a self induced, self perpetuating wasteland
I don't know, I think the rest of the world interferring and exploiting for the lst few hundred years hasn't helped. Afrika has trememdous natural resources and gifted people. IMHO, everyone should leave Afrika the h@ll alone.
1010 | opnion Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:57:29am |
re: #983 Killgore Trout
It was the other panelists who refused to appear with Spencer, not CAIR.
Sorry, I misread it the first time. They are calling for Spenser to be dropped from the panel, but CAIR is not withdrawing.
1011 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:58:12am |
i HAVE TO REBOOT, COMPUTER IS VERY SLOW. bbiab
1012 | pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:58:17am |
re: #999 shiek al beif salami
Baby carrots are kept in forced physical confinement, force-fed, and shielded from all natural light source.
But don't worry, when the baby food manufacturers get hold of them, they are puree-fied.
1013 | KenJen Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:58:41am |
re: #993 DEZes
And how does cabbage feel when you cut off its head?
How about an artichoke when we cut out its heart.
/Savages.
Don't forget the agony and despair potatoes suffer by having their eyes cut out.
1014 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:58:48am |
re: #951 albusteve
another memorial that is very cool imo is the newer Korean War Mem on the Mall....full size bronze GIs moving along....an night they are faintly lit up from below ground...very lifelike...the whole thing is a masterpiece
Yes it is! If you start at the beginning (by the flagpole) there are images and words etched into the marble (different images and words for each panel) and as you proceed DOWN the path, they slowly, almost mysteriously fade away until they can't be read anymore.
Truly moving experience.
1015 | jorline Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:59:13am |
re: #965 realwest
Good morning jorline, how are you today?
I'm well RW...thanks and how are you my friend?
Appears you have BBQ weasel on the grill.
1016 | FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Jul 11, 2009 9:59:44am |
re: #1000 HoosierHoops
I was working TDY at Pearl during the 50th aniverery cerimony.Bush 1 was there...I remember it was a tuesday and all gov't workers got the day off...Most went to see Bush...I went to my one and only time to see the Arizona...Very moving....
Bush 1 landed at Naval Station North Island one time in the midst of a big storm where the power to the field lights and control tower just as AF1 was about to touch down. SS went understandably crazy for a few minutes I heard later.
1017 | Shr_Nfr Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:00:28am |
re: #902 shiek al beif salami
That would really start methane with their minds wouldn't it?
1018 | J.D. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:00:39am |
re: #1007 Walter L. Newton
Obama, who is traveling today in Ghana, said in his weekly Saturday radio and Web address. “It has delivered $43 billion in tax relief to American working families and business.”
Who?
1019 | KenJen Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:00:40am |
re: #995 John Neverbend
It may be an ongoing site problem, but when I click on your avatar, I get a message saying that the computer can't find your name in the LGF repository.
I came across that a few months ago. Can't remember Charles explanation but he knows about it.
1020 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:00:50am |
re: #1010 opnion
CAIR was not scheduled to appear on the panel. It was a panel of academics who refused to participate because of Spencer. CAIR only issued the press release, they were not appearing on the panel.
1021 | Bloodnok Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:00:56am |
re: #1002 Lincolntf
I've never read his books, so I don't know much about him. Maybe I'll give them a try.
"The Council on Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago (CIOGC), a coalition of more than 50 Muslim organizations, also joined CAIR-Chicago, the other ALA panelists and a number of librarians and academics in calling on ALA to drop Spencer from the July 12 panel titled "Perspectives on Islam: Beyond the Stereotyping."
If they were really concerned about changing "stereotypes" wouldn't they welcome the views of someone who purportedly propagates them? Makes me think they fear any views that aren't 100% in line with their political agenda.
That is surprising since Spencer is a much-discussed topic on LGF. There area number of good front-page posts about him if you'd like to get a headstart (check the Tag Storm).
I recommend the following: The Loud Silence of the Fascist Enablers
1022 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:01:43am |
re: #977 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Ice can't bear to read that.
re: #1000 HoosierHoops
I was working TDY at Pearl during the 50th aniverery cerimony.Bush 1 was there...I remember it was a tuesday and all gov't workers got the day off...Most went to see Bush...I went to my one and only time to see the Arizona...Very moving....
I was there a couple of months before that, but my first real visit was in summer of 2001. I remember it very well because we all remember everything from August 2001, and I was with a couple of much older family members, one of whom was a wwii vet.
They talked to us (the younger family) about how we couldn't understand what PH was like, or what it was like to be in a country under attack.
Less than a month later we did know, of course. Everything changed.
Everyone should see the Arizona at some point. It's both the most beautiful and the most heartbreaking memorial, because you can't escape the knowledge that it's a tomb while you're looking at it.
1024 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:02:43am |
We all missed this from a few weeks ago: FOX shills for Vlaams Belang.....
RISE OF ISLAM (FOX NEWS) - BRUSSEL (BELGIUM) (24/03/2009)
1025 | albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:02:48am |
re: #1009 ggt
I don't know, I think the rest of the world interferring and exploiting for the lst few hundred years hasn't helped. Afrika has trememdous natural resources and gifted people. IMHO, everyone should leave Afrika the h@ll alone.
if you are referring to Ladysmith Black Mambazo I would certainly agree...otherwise sub Saharan Africa is a black whole of thieves, murderers and despots...totally hopeless without massive foreign aid and that's only a bandaid
1026 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:02:51am |
re: #1021 Bloodnok
I prefer original sources to web commentary when it comes to calling people "Nazi's" and such.
I keep a grain of salt taped to my monitor at all times.
1027 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:03:13am |
re: #967 apachegunner
Hey Guns! The day does find me and mom doing ok; just a tad ansty about my cancer test coming up on Tuesday,results on Wednesday, but other than that, I feel fine!
How are you doing my friend? I don't seem to recall seeing you on the DT much last week!
1028 | Bloodnok Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:03:32am |
re: #1026 Lincolntf
I prefer original sources to web commentary when it comes to calling people "Nazi's" and such.
I keep a grain of salt taped to my monitor at all times.
I see.
1029 | albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:03:43am |
re: #1013 KenJen
Don't forget the agony and despair potatoes suffer by having their eyes cut out.
lettuce has their heads chopped off!....brutal man
1030 | FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:03:53am |
re: #1022 iceweasel
Everyone should see the Arizona at some point. It's both the most beautiful and the most heartbreaking memorial, because you can't escape the knowledge that it's a tomb while you're looking at it.
And see it as soon as possible, soon the ship will no longer be there, it is disintegrating rapidly the last few years.
1031 | babes Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:04:17am |
Good morning and afternoon all.
This is truly frightening (posted this out on the Breaking links).
From the New York Post: GAG THE INTERNET!
AN OBAMA OFFICIAL'S FRIGHTENING BOOK ABOUT CURBING FREE SPEECH ONLINE
Cass Sunstein, a Harvard Law professor who has been appointed to a shadowy post that will grant him powers that are merely mind-boggling, explicitly supports using the courts to impose a "chilling effect" on speech that might hurt someone's feelings. He thinks that the bloggers have been rampaging out of control and that new laws need to be written to corral them.
[Link: www.nypost.com...]
1032 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:04:30am |
re: #1026 Lincolntf
You really should read up on it. We've been discussing neo-fascists in the counter-jihad movement here on LGF for almost two years now.
1033 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:04:37am |
re: #971 Mithrax
ROTFL! Just make sure it's a Polar bear costume or your'e apt to get shot!
1034 | Walter L. Newton Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:04:54am |
TIME is crazy...
Without a Doubt: Why Barack Obama represents American Catholics better than the pope does.
[Link: www.newsweek.com...]
In truth, though, Obama's pragmatic approach to divisive policy (his notion that we should acknowledge the good faith underlying opposing viewpoints) and his social-justice agenda reflect the views of American Catholic laity much more closely than those vocal bishops and pro-life activists. When Obama meets the pope tomorrow, they'll politely disagree about reproductive freedoms and homosexuality, but Catholics back home won't care, because they know Obama's on their side. In fact, Obama's agenda is closer to their views than even the pope's.
(Basically saying that Obama is more in tune with Catholics who are wavering from the Church policy, so this makes Obama right, the Church wrong. Gotta love the logic)
1035 | apachegunner Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:05:33am |
re: #1027 realwest whole lotta traveling last few months setting up new reserve elements in the joint forces to include that predator group at creech afb in utah.
1036 | J.D. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:05:37am |
Interesting article here.
...Mr. Schlesinger expresses concerns, too, about the safety and reliability of U.S. nuclear weapons, all of which are more than 20 years old. "I am worried about the reliability of the weapons . . . as time passes. Not this year, not next year, but as time passes and the stockpile ages." There is a worry, too, about the "intellectual infrastructure," he says, as Americans who know how to make nuclear weapons either retire or die. And he notes that the "physical infrastructure" is now "well over 60 years" old. Some of it "comes out of the Manhattan Project."The U.S. is the only major nuclear power that is not modernizing its weapons. "The Russians have a shelf life for their weapons of about 10 years so they are continually replacing" them. The British and the French "stay up to date." And the Chinese and the Indians "continue to add to their stockpiles." But in the U.S., Congress won't even so much as fund R&D for the Reliable Replacement Warhead. "The RRW has become a toxic term on Capitol Hill," Mr. Schlesinger says. Give it a new name, he seems to be suggesting, and try again to get Congress to fund it. "We need to be much more vigorous about life-extension programs" for the weapons.
Finally, we chat about Mr. Schlesinger's nearly half-century as a nuclear strategist. Are we living in a world where the use of nuclear weapons is more likely than it was back then? "The likelihood of a nuclear exchange has substantially gone away," he says. That's the good news. "However, the likelihood of a nuclear terrorist attack on the United States" is greater.
During his RAND years, in the 1960s, Mr. Schlesinger recalls that "we were working on mitigating the possible effects [of a nuclear attack] through civil defense, which, may I say parenthetically, we should be working on now with respect, certainly, to the possibility of a terrorist weapon used against the United States. . . . We should have a much more rapid response capability. . . . We're not as well organized as we should be to respond."
Mr. Schlesinger sees another difference between now and when he started in this business: "Public interest in our strategic posture has faded over the decades," he says. "In the Cold War, it was a most prominent subject. Now, much of the public is barely interested in it. And that has been true of the Congress as well," creating what he delicately refers to as "something of a stalemate in expenditures."
He's raising the alarm. Congress, the administration and Americans ignore it at their peril.
1037 | KenJen Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:06:15am |
re: #1029 albusteve
lettuce has their heads chopped off!....brutal man
How about celery? People are always breaking their poor little ribs.
1038 | FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:06:19am |
re: #1034 Walter L. Newton
TIME is crazy...
Without a Doubt: Why Barack Obama represents American Catholics better than the pope does.
[Link: www.newsweek.com...]
In truth, though, Obama's pragmatic approach to divisive policy (his notion that we should acknowledge the good faith underlying opposing viewpoints) and his social-justice agenda reflect the views of American Catholic laity much more closely than those vocal bishops and pro-life activists. When Obama meets the pope tomorrow, they'll politely disagree about reproductive freedoms and homosexuality, but Catholics back home won't care, because they know Obama's on their side. In fact, Obama's agenda is closer to their views than even the pope's.
(Basically saying that Obama is more in tune with Catholics who are wavering from the Church policy, so this makes Obama right, the Church wrong. Gotta love the logic)
What do you expect? The media are the First Prophets of the Holy Church of Our Enthroned Messiah-King.
1039 | rightymouse Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:06:33am |
re: #993 DEZes
And how does cabbage feel when you cut off its head?
How about an artichoke when we cut out its heart.
/Savages.
I wonder if PETA types cry & scream in their veggie gardens like these Earth First idjits do over trees.
1040 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:06:47am |
re: #1030 FurryOldGuyJeans
And see it as soon as possible, soon the ship will no longer be there, it is disintegrating rapidly the last few years.
The trail of oil still leaking from the ship that goes for miles is called the tears of the Arizona....
1041 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:06:57am |
re: #974 iceweasel
You are gonna need AT LEAST a week to see the Smithsonian - don't even remember how many buildings comprise the collections. I coulda spent two weeks there, back in the day, and still not seen it all!
1042 | shiek al beif salami Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:07:28am |
re: #1009 ggt
I would alter your last sentence a little: treat Africa just like the rest of the world. A good step in the right direction would be to outlaw all the feel-good platitudes and social engineering projects that liberals drag to the continent with the sole purpose of satisfying their own guilty need to "do something meaningful for others" and "give something back."
A John Galt approach to Africa would cure a lot of the NGO and foreign aid damage. Give Africa nothing it hasn't earned, and take nothing from Africa that you haven't earned.
1043 | Lincolntf Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:07:31am |
re: #1032 Killgore Trout
Which of his books would you recommend I read first? (I'm assuming he has at least a few.)
1044 | wrenchwench Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:07:45am |
re: #1025 albusteve
if you are referring to Ladysmith Black Mambazo I would certainly agree...otherwise sub Saharan Africa is a black whole of thieves, murderers and despots...totally hopeless without massive foreign aid and that's only a bandaid
I heard a presentation by the author of this book. Aid is not helping, it is hurting. It is keeping the "thieves, murderers and despots" in place. It is not totally hopeless.
Editorial Reviews
From Publishers Weekly
In this important analysis of the past fifty years of international (largely American) aid to Africa, economist and former World Bank consultant Moyo, a native of Zambia, prescribes a tough dose of medicine: stopping the tide of money that, however well-intentioned, only promotes corruption in government and dependence in citizens. With a global perspective and on-the-ground details, Moyo reveals that aid is often diverted to the coffers of cruel despotisms, and occasionally conflicts outright with the interests of citizens-free mosquito nets, for instance, killing the market for the native who sells them. In its place, Moyo advocates a smarter, though admittedly more difficult, policy of investment that has already worked to grow the economies of poor countries like Argentina and Brazil. Moyo writes with a general audience in mind, and doesn't hesitate to slow down and explain the intricacies of, say, the bond market. This is a brief, accessible look at the goals and reasons behind anti-aid advocates, with a hopeful outlook and a respectful attitude for the well-being and good faith of all involved.
1045 | albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:08:16am |
re: #1037 KenJen
How about celery? People are always breaking their poor little ribs.
celery deserves it...screw them...bunch of whiners
1046 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:08:58am |
Ok, I m back. Computer and keyboard still communicating very slowly. Am I suppossed to change a setting or something? HELP!
1047 | opnion Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:09:46am |
re: #1020 Killgore Trout
CAIR was not scheduled to appear on the panel. It was a panel of academics who refused to participate because of Spencer. CAIR only issued the press release, they were not appearing on the panel.
I don't read it that way. It appears to me that CAIR is on the ALA panel, but maybe.............
1048 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:10:35am |
re: #1041 realwest
You are gonna need AT LEAST a week to see the Smithsonian - don't even remember how many buildings comprise the collections. I coulda spent two weeks there, back in the day, and still not seen it all!
Give me enough starbucks..I'll get through that shit in 5 hours tops..
*wink*
/it is really raining hard...may lose power
1049 | J.D. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:10:42am |
re: #1031 babes
Sunstein also believes that - whether you're a blogger, The New York Times or a Web hosting service - you should be held responsible even for what your commenters say. Currently you're immune under section 230 of the Communications Decency Act. "Reasonable people," he says, "might object that this is not the right rule," though he admits that imposing liability for commenters on service providers would be "a considerable burden."
But who cares about a burden when insults are being bandied about? "A 'chilling effect' on those who would spread destructive falsehoods can be an excellent idea," he says.
"As we have seen," Sunstein writes, having shown us no such thing, "falsehoods can undermine democracy itself." What Sunstein means by that sentence is pretty clear: He doesn't like so-called false rumors about his longtime University of Chicago friend and colleague, Barack Obama.
He alludes on page 3 (and on page 13, and 14, and 45, and 54 - the book is only 87 pages) to the supposedly insidious lie that "Barack Obama pals around with terrorists." Since Sunstein intends to impose his Big Chill on such talk, I'd better get this in while I can. The "rumor," i.e., "fact," about the palsy-walsiness of Obama and unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers (Ayers referred to Obama as a "family friend" in a memoir) did not "undermine democracy," i.e., prevent Obama's election. The facts got out, voters weighed them and ruled that they weren't disqualifying.
Sunstein calls for a "notice and take down" law that would require bloggers and service providers to "take down falsehoods upon notice," even those made by commenters - but without apparent penalty.
Consider how well this nudge would work. You blog about Obama-Ayers. You get a letter claiming that your facts are wrong so you should remove your post. You refuse. If, after a court proceeding proves simply that you are wrong (but not that you committed libel, which when a public figure is the target is almost impossible), you lose, the penalty is . . . you must take down your post.
How long would it take for a court to sort out the truth? Sasha and Malia will be running for president by then. Nobody will care anymore. But it will give politicians the ability to tie up their online critics in court.
So much for free speech.
1050 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:11:03am |
re: #1008 J.D.
Heh - as I said last night or earlier this morning, I can't believe anyone would carve out a likeness of Obama on an ACORN! LOL!
1051 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:11:10am |
re: #1014 realwest
Yes it is! If you start at the beginning (by the flagpole) there are images and words etched into the marble (different images and words for each panel) and as you proceed DOWN the path, they slowly, almost mysteriously fade away until they can't be read anymore.
Truly moving experience.
IMHO the WII Memorial in D.C. should have kleenex dispensers in the marble.
1052 | albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:11:39am |
re: #1044 wrenchwench
like giving dope to a junkie...if the West wants to help Africa they could start by putting R Mugabe in chains and hauling him off to obscurity...but the UN panders
1053 | babes Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:13:05am |
re: #1049 J.D.
THIS I do not like. What the heck is in that White House?
1054 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:13:10am |
re: #1015 jorline
I'm well RW...thanks and how are you my friend?
Appears you have BBQ weasel on the grill.
I'm doing ok my friend - and I hope I don't have BBQ weasel on the grill - hate the taste!
1055 | Bloodnok Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:13:23am |
re: #1043 Lincolntf
Which of his books would you recommend I read first? (I'm assuming he has at least a few.)
If you can ignore the things (accusations/insults/lies) he has repeatedly said about Charles and still want to read his books then you are a stronger man than I. The quote in KT's post should tell you everything you need to know about the man.
1056 | shiek al beif salami Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:13:54am |
re: #1029 albusteve
I have no feelings for potatoes: their eyes should be gouged out. As the late, great Lewis Grizzard once warned, "don't bend over in the garden, Grandma, because them taters have eyes."
1057 | J.D. Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:14:09am |
re: #1050 realwest
Heh - as I said last night or earlier this morning, I can't believe anyone would carve out a likeness of Obama on an ACORN! LOL!
It seems perfect in a perverse way, though, doesn't it?
1058 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:14:23am |
re: #1042 shiek al beif salami
I would alter your last sentence a little: treat Africa just like the rest of the world. A good step in the right direction would be to outlaw all the feel-good platitudes and social engineering projects that liberals drag to the continent with the sole purpose of satisfying their own guilty need to "do something meaningful for others" and "give something back."
A John Galt approach to Africa would cure a lot of the NGO and foreign aid damage. Give Africa nothing it hasn't earned, and take nothing from Africa that you haven't earned.
Agreed!
1059 | albusteve Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:14:43am |
the Smith is arguably America's greatest treasure...I have an almost spiritual reverence for the whole thing...I've visited many times and not seen all of it by a long ways...it is vast
1060 | avanti Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:14:47am |
OK, I'm off to the casino, but wanted to share a opinion about the recent sock puppet dust up before heading out. Basically, I think this is one of the best forums on the net for honest political discussion. I can't imagine another blog that would accept Space Jesus, and TFK on the same blog for example.
There are plenty of left and right echo chambers that you can visit if you want to hear Obama is all bad or all good, but few that will air both sides. It may be uncomfortable for a leftie to hear the negative truth on occasion, just as many on the right would rather not hear any positive comments.
I like that Charles lets in all polite opinions, and I personally don't care where you are from, or who you voted for, I welcome opinions, even those I disagree with.
I know the tone of the blog has become more accommodating to some unpopular opinions, but it only means we are listening to each other more, not that we are agreeing.
Lots of great Lizards on here, most of which don't agree with the lefts politics, but thanks for not tossing us out the front door. :) See you all Sun, play nice.
1061 | opnion Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:15:25am |
re: #1038 FurryOldGuyJeans
What do you expect? The media are the First Prophets of the Holy Church of Our Enthroned Messiah-King.
-I don't believe that Obamas votes in The IL State Senate reflect the views of American Catholics on the Born Alive Infant Protection Act.
1062 | shiek al beif salami Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:15:57am |
re: #1044 wrenchwench
Having lived half my adult life in sub-Saharan Africa, I find your comment just a wee bit prejudiced.
1063 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:17:39am |
re: #1048 HoosierHoops
Whoa hope y'all don't lose power! Y'all got any lightning with that rain?
1064 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:20:55am |
re: #1063 realwest
Whoa hope y'all don't lose power! Y'all got any lightning with that rain?
Big time thunder....I'm watching the 1999 home run derby and going to watch a new movie and give my regular weekly saturday movie review...
I'm 4 hours late...but it is a lazy day
1065 | wrenchwench Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:21:05am |
re: #1062 shiek al beif salami
Having lived half my adult life in sub-Saharan Africa, I find your comment just a wee bit prejudiced.
Do you mean this part?
Aid is not helping, it is hurting. It is keeping the "thieves, murderers and despots" in place.
I meant no offense. I was re-using words from the post I quoted. If you have read the book I mentioned, I would be interested in your opinion. It sounded to me like the author believes some good capitalism would be more beneficial than more aid.
1066 | realwest Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:21:15am |
Well y'all it's been almost fun today - and VERY educational, in more ways than one!
But I gotta go eat some lunch.
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!
1067 | freedomsound Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:23:29am |
re: #1031 babes
Cass Sunstein is married to Samantha Power, the Obama foreign-policy adviser who wanted to invade Israel.
1068 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:25:45am |
Watching the all star homerun derby from 1999 with Mark McGuire...
Sometimes you just have to face epic failure and move on..
looking for a good movie on line.any advice lizards?
1069 | The Left Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:29:38am |
re: #1054 realwest
I'm doing ok my friend - and I hope I don't have BBQ weasel on the grill - hate the taste!
No worries. You don't.
Hey, how's your pal Killian Bully doing?
1070 | Mad Al-Jaffee Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:31:08am |
I'm taking off in a little while to see this band. Hope everyone's having a great weekend.
1071 | jorline Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:31:10am |
re: #1068 HoosierHoops
Watching the all star homerun derby from 1999 with Mark McGuire...
Sometimes you just have to face epic failure and move on..
looking for a good movie on line.any advice lizards?
Hoe are you Hooster?
I watched "For The Love Of the Game" again early this morning.
1072 | shiek al beif salami Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:31:58am |
re: #1065 wrenchwench
I apologize - I was referring to the comment ("otherwise sub Saharan Africa is a black whole of thieves, murderers and despots...totally hopeless without massive foreign aid and that's only a bandaid) you quoted.
I haven't read the book you mentioned, but do agree with the premise of trade. The problem with all other approaches is that there is no feed-back loop. Aid is as effective as the donor or NGO says it is, and they have vested reasons for saying it is good, such as continued funding for their own self-interest. There is no market information to tell them if what they are doing is effective or not.
Which is a big reason the effectiveness of all government programs is suspect - who knows how well a program works if there is no market feedback?
1073 | Digital Display Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:35:04am |
re: #1071 jorline
Hoe are you Hooster?
I watched "For The Love Of the Game" again early this morning.
Hi Bro! loved that movie...would have been better without the girly love stuff in a baseball movie...LOL
just like Rockie....Damn that adrianne! :)
1074 | leftover54 Sat, Jul 11, 2009 1:18:35pm |
re: #1065 wrenchwench
" It sounded to me like the author believes some good capitalism would be more beneficial than more aid."
Give a man a fish, feed him for a day
Teach a man to fish, feed him for a lifetime
...just sayin'
1075 | Wendya Sat, Jul 11, 2009 10:04:51pm |
re: #849 iceweasel
No one was talking about Mao, or Congress, or the Democratic party, or anything but the current state of the GOP....yet you managed to shoehorn in a comment that is about the first three and utterly neglects to mention the actual subject of the ongoing conversation.
Ah yes, the faux outrage following your "concerned tone" is noted. ;)