Palin Staying in Politics

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After quitting her job as governor of Alaska, Sarah Palin says she’s not leaving politics.

WASHINGTON – Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin says she is not only staying in politics once she leaves the governor’s office later this month, she’s jumping right back into the national fray.

Palin tells the Washington Times for a Sunday story that she is eager to campaign for Republicans and independents and even Democrats who share her views on limited government, national defense and energy independence.

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1 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:28:05am

Can’t keep a good woman down, no matter how hard the MSM tries.

2 zombie  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:28:23am

Palin IS politics in America, at this point.

3 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:28:28am

Who will want her?

4 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:29:53am

re: #3 Walter L. Newton

Who will want her?

Especially which Democrats. That was RICH.

/kudos on the hat - Maisey combo avatar

5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:31:53am

Shocka!

6 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:32:00am

Palling around with terrorists is NOT something Palin does, unlike Pelosi/Pres. Obama.

I welcome Palin working with serious Democrats to point out terrorists are NOT our friends.

7 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:32:23am

re: #3 Walter L. Newton

Who will want her?

Are you serious? Local and national conservatives will be begging her to make appearances for/ with them!

imho, she did this (quit the governorship) to make $$$$ to offset her nearly 1 million legal bills from all the bs suits against her.

At a speaking fee of lets say 20K a pop, she can pay off her legal bills a LOT quicker than her 50K +/- salary as gov would.

8 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:32:30am

But she still has to learn to answer questions on any and all topics, better than she has so far.

9 pat  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:32:31am

Polls show she has crowd appeal.

10 dmandman  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:33:08am

Note the “even Democrats”….guess who they will be beholden to if they get elected. They of course would be soon ex-democrats and then would then be “loyal to Palin” Republicans. The RINOS would be up in arms because they would most certainly have the power diminished even more. And Palin produces more successes to their failures they will be marginalized to even more (think of the fate of Al Landon in later years).

11 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:33:16am

re: #8 itellu3times

But she still has to learn to answer questions on any and all topics, better than she has so far.

Yes.
And this may be her learning opportunity for the “big-time”.

12 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:33:34am

re: #8 itellu3times

But she still has to learn to answer questions on any and all topics, better than she has so far.

Correct, and now she can be schooled 24/7 without the incumberance of running a state

13 Gang of One  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:33:46am

The MSM will turn their smear-machine up to 11 now.

14 brookly red  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:33:52am

well folks have been asking for something different…

15 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:34:09am

If Palin can draw crowds to hear her speeches around the country, she will stay in the front of the left-wing brain.

16 RalphShort  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:34:15am

Well, there might be a few elected democrats left who are not out and out marxists. Of course, I am an optimist.

17 Truck Monkey  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:34:20am

re: #13 Gang of One

The MSM will turn their smear-machine up to 11 now.

It wasn’t already?

18 zombie  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:34:38am
Palin tells the Washington Times for a Sunday story that she is eager to campaign for Republicans and independents and even Democrats who share her views on limited government, national defense and energy independence.

“Energy independence” is the key point.

Problem is, the Repubs and the Dems are each only half right on the issue. We need to COMBINE all approaches. I want to see:

• Drilling in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico done in a way to minimize the environmental impact (R);
• Crash program of building newest-generation ultrasafe nuke plants (R);
• Increased funding for “alternative energy” research (D);
• Increased funding for government labs like Livermore doing fusion research (R);
• Focus on accelerating solar cell efficiency (D)
…etc.

(THe “R” and “D” after each item indicate which party is most promoting which entry.)

We must take the petro-dollars away from the islamic Theocrats of the Middle East.

19 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:34:46am

re: #13 Gang of One

The MSM will turn their smear-machine up to 11 now.

Let them eat moose.

20 Wyatt Earp  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:34:49am

re: #3 Walter L. Newton

Who will want her?

I do! (Oh, you mean to make campaign speeches. Nnever mind.)

21 brookly red  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:34:58am

re: #13 Gang of One

The MSM will turn their smear-machine up to 11 now.

no, I think they red-lining now as it is.

22 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:34:58am

re: #13 Gang of One

The MSM will turn their smear-machine up to 11 now.

To get to 11 they’ll have to tone it DOWN, not up!

23 Truck Monkey  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:35:18am

re: #15 debutaunt

If Palin can draw crowds to hear her speeches around the country, she will stay in the front of the left-wing brain.

Oxymoron.

24 dmandman  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:35:23am

re: #16 RalphShort

There are some Scoop Jackson types out there….they just can’t get past the Liberal machine at the Primary level.

25 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:35:30am

Palin can “educate” Democrats who still can’t tell a terrorist from a freedom fighter, as in Iran’s streets.

Even highly Harvard educated current politicians could use some Palin talent at telling terrorists from prospective allies seeking freedom & liberty.

Pelosi, Obama, Biden are always barking up the wrong tree trying to make “best friends forever” with people who mean us harm.

26 Gang of One  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:35:43am

re: #17 Truck Monkey

It wasn’t already?

Not IMHO, I think it was at around 10.5, but you make a good point.

27 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:35:44am

re: #8 itellu3times

But she still has to learn to answer questions on any and all topics, better than she has so far.

Not really. Her fans like her the way she is. She’ll have no problem drawing crowds.

28 jaunte  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:35:56am

Victor Davis Hanson thinks she needs a little more wilderness time:

No Way 2012 — Maybe 2016, 2020?
But if, a big if, she decides to become a national political figure, Palin should use these next few years (in addition to making some money to support her family) to travel and read widely in the manner that a Reagan did in his wilderness period. She has natural intelligence and is curious. I think most would like to see her do another Couric interview five years from now after she had time to size up DC insiders, meet more politicians, lecture in front of hostile audiences — and just read and reflect. At fifty-five she could become a formidable candidate, given her natural charisma and authentic middle-class persona.
[Link: www.victorhanson.com…]

29 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:36:46am

re: #7 sattv4u2

Are you serious? Local and national conservatives will be begging her to make appearances for/ with them!

imho, she did this (quit the governorship) to make $$$$ to offset her nearly 1 million legal bills from all the bs suits against her.

At a speaking fee of lets say 20K a pop, she can pay off her legal bills a LOT quicker than her 50K +/- salary as gov would.

No, I’m not serious. But I seriously ask that question and I think any Republican politician should think twice before asking her to endorse or support them.

They will be saddled with the same dogged press that Palin has received. This is not a matter of wrong or right, good or bad, this is a matter of the fact that the a lot of the public has been conditioned to see her the way she is being portrayed by the press, and she is damaged goods, in the eyes of a fickle public.

30 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:37:11am

re: #8 itellu3times

But she still has to learn to answer questions on any and all topics, better than she has so far.

* * * *
187 days of Pres. Obama’s sweet mellifluous Harvard “Smart Talk on ANY & ALL Topics” hasn’t improved my country yet.

31 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:37:14am

re: #18 zombie

“Energy independence” is the key point.

Problem is, the Repubs and the Dems are each only half right on the issue. We need to COMBINE all approaches. I want to see:

• Drilling in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico done in a way to minimize the environmental impact (R);
• Crash program of building newest-generation ultrasafe nuke plants (R);
• Increased funding for “alternative energy” research (D);
• Increased funding for government labs like Livermore doing fusion research (R);
• Focus on accelerating solar cell efficiency (D)
…etc.

(THe “R” and “D” after each item indicate which party is most promoting which entry.)

We must take the petro-dollars away from the islamic Theocrats of the Middle East.

Even a credible threat of this would go a long way to breaking the monopoly the oil ticks have. I clearly remember when oil prices were close to reaching over $150 a barrel, and all Bush had to do was PROPOSE domestic drilling and the price plummeted.

32 AuntAcid  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:37:14am

re: #18 zombie

Just how much oil does the US get from the ME?

33 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:37:26am

re: #20 Wyatt Earp

I do! (Oh, you mean to make campaign speeches. Nnever mind.)

Slimy remark IMO.

34 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:37:39am

re: #28 jaunte

VDH makes a great point. I think she’d lose not ground by going dark or quiet for a little while, keeping all guessing.

35 Gang of One  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:38:21am

re: #22 sattv4u2

To get to 11 they’ll have to tone it DOWN, not up!

Maybe we should use a logarithmic scale kind of like the Richter — would save a lot of time and energy replacing fried potentiometers, IMHO.

36 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:38:35am

re: #32 AuntAcid

Just how much oil does the US get from the ME?

Not as much as Europe does. Most of our oil comes form Canada and Mexico, with a middling amount from Venezuela IIRC.

37 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:38:39am

re: #29 Walter L. Newton

No, I’m not serious. But I seriously ask that question and I think any Republican politician should think twice before asking her to endorse or support them.

They will be saddled with the same dogged press that Palin has received. This is not a matter of wrong or right, good or bad, this is a matter of the fact that the a lot of the public has been conditioned to see her the way she is being portrayed by the press, and she is damaged goods, in the eyes of a fickle public.

Something to think about long and hard, since much of the “voting public” still think she’s Tina Fey looking at Russia from a porch.

38 zombie  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:39:10am

re: #32 AuntAcid

Just how much oil does the US get from the ME?

I’m not sure. A lot. And from Venezuela too.

We need to stop pouring our money into the pockets of people who hate us and our way of life. We are funding our own destruction.

39 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:39:20am

i;m just glad someone this charismatic is on our side.
she has huge appeal to much of america. many are curious abt. her.
and she will deliver a simple message of patriotism they will understand.
especially now they have something to compare it to w/ o’s anti-american rhetoric and behavior.
she won’t need a telepromter. she will speak from the heart.


she is going to drive the left craaaaaazy.

40 jaunte  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:39:22am

re: #34 BigPapa

I guess she has some lawyer bills coming due.

41 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:39:22am

re: #32 AuntAcid

Just how much oil does the US get from the ME?

Not very much. However, we buy oil from other countries as part of a larger market, so there is indirect influence on prices. If we buy more oil from one country, another country has to guy more of theirs from another, like a ME country.

42 brookly red  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:39:23am

re: #31 FurryOldGuyJeans

Even a credible threat of this would go a long way to breaking the monopoly the oil ticks have. I clearly remember when oil prices were close to reaching over $150 a barrel, and all Bush had to do was PROPOSE domestic drilling and the price plummeted.

Credible would require an R administration.

43 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:40:26am

re: #24 dmandman

There are some Scoop Jackson types out there….they just can’t get past the Liberal machine at the Primary level.

It’s worse than that. Look at Kristen Gilibrand in NY. Complete turnaround in almost all her positions to make a senate run on her own.

44 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:40:27am

re: #18 zombie

“Energy independence” is the key point.

Problem is, the Repubs and the Dems are each only half right on the issue. We need to COMBINE all approaches. I want to see:

• Drilling in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico done in a way to minimize the environmental impact (R);
• Crash program of building newest-generation ultrasafe nuke plants (R);
• Increased funding for “alternative energy” research (D);
• Increased funding for government labs like Livermore doing fusion research (R);
• Focus on accelerating solar cell efficiency (D)
…etc.

(THe “R” and “D” after each item indicate which party is most promoting which entry.)

We must take the petro-dollars away from the islamic Theocrats of the Middle East.

I would suggest that also, the “no drill” zones need to be opened up.

45 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:41:06am

re: #12 sattv4u2

Correct, and now she can be schooled 24/7 without the incumberance of running a state

* * * *
Moronic Joe Biden has been hanging around Washington DC for over 35 years in the US Senate, and is still a moronic democrat.

Your sexism about schooling is showing if you’re impressed by the idiotic Biden’s fake record of accomplishment & “schooling” in any field.

It’s their IDEOLOGY, stupid.

Palin’s not a redistributionist appeaser, that’s an enormous advantage over Democrat ideology.

46 BlueRoses  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:41:16am

re: #27 Killgore Trout

I like her the way she is. Campaigning for conservatives from either party is a brilliant idea and I wish her well.

47 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:41:24am

re: #39 nyc redneck

i;m just glad someone this charismatic is on our side.
she has huge appeal to much of america. many are curious abt. her.
and she will deliver a simple message of patriotism they will understand.
especially now they have something to compare it to w/ o’s anti-american rhetoric and behavior.
she won’t need a telepromter. she will speak from the heart.

she is going to drive the left craaaaaazy.

Won’t that be fun to watch?

48 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:41:48am

re: #40 jaunte

I guess she has some lawyer bills coming due.

approaching 7 figures! As I stated earlier, if her gov salary is 50K, and she can make 10K per speaking gig, 100 gigs a year , YOU do the math!

Legal bills ALL paid in one year!

49 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:42:04am

US Oil Imports, April 2009

50 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:44:13am

re: #16 RalphShort

Well, there might be a few elected democrats left who are not out and out marxists. Of course, I am an optimist.

* * * *
Governor Palin worked well with democrats and was considered bipartisan and effective UNTIL August 29, 2008 when McCain named her his running mate.

When Palin was announced as McCain’s candidate, even former democrat allies in her state went on the WAR PATH against her, though you know democrats are peace loving appeaseniks normally.

I read this yesterday somewhere.

51 zombie  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:44:13am

re: #49 OldLineTexan

US Oil Imports, April 2009

Nice chart, thanks.

52 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:44:15am

re: #49 OldLineTexan

US Oil Imports, April 2009

Leave it to a Texan to have the scoop on oil imports. ;)

53 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:44:27am

re: #45 alegrias

* * * *
Moronic Joe Biden has been hanging around Washington DC for over 35 years in the US Senate, and is still a moronic democrat.

Your sexism about schooling is showing if you’re impressed by the idiotic Biden’s fake record of accomplishment & “schooling” in any field.

It’s their IDEOLOGY, stupid.

Palin’s not a redistributionist appeaser, that’s an enormous advantage over Democrat ideology.

WTYF are you talking about? I didn’t say Palin is going back to HIGH SCHOOL to be “schooled”. It’s taking the time (which she didn’t get prior to her VP run) of learning world stage problems. That has NOTHING do you with sexism (wtf!) or fake records. She will be “schooled” by conservatives experts in each of their fields!

54 Gang of One  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:44:29am

re: #39 nyc redneck

i;m just glad someone this charismatic genuine is on our side.
she has huge appeal to much of america. many are curious abt. her.
and she will deliver a simple message of patriotism they will understand.
especially now they have something to compare it to w/ o’s anti-american rhetoric and behavior.
she won’t need a telepromter. she will speak from the heart.

she is going to drive the left craaaaaazyier.

Tweaked it a bit. Ear Leader is charismatic, that’s how he got into the WH with the fellating MSM’s help. Palin is more of a sincere character.

55 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:44:40am

re: #46 BlueRoses

I like her the way she is. Campaigning for conservatives from either party is a brilliant idea and I wish her well.

And she has a stink that is going to rub off (and be refreshed constantly by the media) on any conservative that she tries to help.

And since our conservative don’t seem to have the balls to fight back, to stand up any take a stand (when’s the last time you heard a strong statement come out of DC by a conservative on the issues), we may as well run and hide.

56 BlueRoses  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:44:45am

47 reply quotereine.de.tout7/12/09 10:41:24 am

re: #39 nyc redneck

i;m just glad someone this charismatic is on our side.
she has huge appeal to much of america. many are curious abt. her.
and she will deliver a simple message of patriotism they will understand.
especially now they have something to compare it to w/ o’s anti-american rhetoric and behavior.
she won’t need a telepromter. she will speak from the heart.

she is going to drive the left craaaaaazy.

Won’t that be fun to watch?

It’s been fun so far! Whooeeee!

57 rightymouse  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:45:00am
“Palin tells the Washington Times for a Sunday story that she is eager to campaign for Republicans and independents and even Democrats who share her views on limited government, national defense and energy independence.”

Woot! Go get ‘em, lady!

58 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:45:50am

re: #45 alegrias

oh , and downding NOT for the content of your comment, which you are of course entitled too, but for the ad hominums!

59 rightymouse  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:46:14am

re: #56 BlueRoses

she is going to drive the left craaaaaazy.

Won’t that be fun to watch?

It’s been fun so far! Whooeeee!

She’s going to drive some on the right crazy too and that’s going to be just as much fun to watch. lol!

60 Mr. E. Train  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:46:21am

“When the going gets tough the tough get weird”. Hunter S. Thompson You can tell who to vote for by seeing who makes your enemies go batshit crazy just by the mention of her name. Oh, im writing this on my PSP. loves my gadgets!

61 AuntAcid  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:48:27am

re: #41 BigPapa

Not very much. However, we buy oil from other countries as part of a larger market, so there is indirect influence on prices. If we buy more oil from one country, another country has to guy more of theirs from another, like a ME country.

So American oil companies that have invested billions get the oil out of the ground for these countries on our current shit list are OK to sell to whomever?

62 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:48:52am

re: #55 Walter L. Newton

And she has a stink that is going to rub off (and be refreshed constantly by the media) on any conservative that she tries to help.

And since our conservative don’t seem to have the balls to fight back, to stand up any take a stand (when’s the last time you heard a strong statement come out of DC by a conservative on the issues), we may as well run and hide.

Addendum…

And the way the media and the left (and some conservatives) are trying to conflate STRONG conservatives with the wacky radical right, it’s going to appear to the public that ANY conservative that makes a hard stand on anything, is simply part of the Alex Jones/Buchannan Etal. cabal.

This is part of the plan by the left. And a lot of conservatives are falling for it and are afraid to speak their piece.

63 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:49:04am

More fun with oil facts.

A list of OECD countries with oil “net import” data.

A negative number means the country listed actually exports. OECD winner: Canada. Other notables: Denmark, Great Britain, Czech Republic.

Sucking it in with a big straw: US, EU (roughly)

64 Macker  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:49:17am

re: #2 zombie

Palin IS politics in America, at this point.

If this is true, then what do we call the Demo☭rats?

65 LatinGent  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:49:36am

Even Willie Brown (yes, that Willie Brown) stated in an op-ed this morning that Sister Sarah was`nt as dumb as some may think. He made good points about her freeing herself to campaign on a broader scale. Either way, this woman just seems to piss people off. I`m starting to like her.

66 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:49:52am

re: #52 FurryOldGuyJeans

Leave it to a Texan to have the scoop on oil imports. ;)

Better than half my neighbors are in the “awl bidness” to one degree or another.

67 Gang of One  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:50:10am

re: #64 Macker

If this is true, then what do we call the Demo☭rats?

Socialists.

68 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:50:44am

re: #66 OldLineTexan

Better than half my neighbors are in the “awl bidness” to one degree or another.

Just as long as none are T. Boone. ;)

69 brookly red  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:51:08am

re: #64 Macker

If this is true, then what do we call the Demo☭rats?

I call them the enemy, but some may find that harsh…

70 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:51:09am

re: #67 Gang of One

Socialists.

Redistributionists

71 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:51:42am

re: #27 Killgore Trout

Not really. Her fans like her the way she is. She’ll have no problem drawing crowds.

Swell, she can be the political equivalent of a monster truck.

Face it, the populace has a certain expectation for a national candidate. There’s a certain minimum intelligence required, and so far she has not demonstrated it on all issues. She does quite well on the ones she lists here, limited government, national defense and energy independence. She can be an asset, like a rock star or a monster truck. But, a candidate?

Sure, she can now spend more time studying, being tutored - by whom, exactly? I dunno. She needs to tour the lower 48, do some foreign trips, maybe go to Iran and kick Achmadinejad in the balls. She needs to cultivate the press, and good luck with that. She needs to build up her own posse of advisors and surrogates. Not to mention, find some big bucks, for herself and the party.

I hope she does it all, but there is a lot, to do.

72 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:51:44am

re: #61 AuntAcid

So American oil companies that have invested billions get the oil out of the ground for these countries on our current shit list are OK to sell to whomever?

Oil is traded. When you buy oil from Yemen, you may get oil from Nigeria. Shipping costs are a big factor, as is delivery and local supply, and even weather. No sense in bringing coals to Newcastle in a hurricane.

/

73 Macker  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:51:57am

re: #18 zombie

10,000 updings!

74 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:52:01am

re: #66 OldLineTexan

Better than half my neighbors are in the “awl bidness” to one degree or another.

I used to be in the oil bidness at a very young age. The summer I was 16 I worked as a gas station attendant

(gas was under a buck a gallon, and you got a free drinking glass with a fill-up , and I checked your oil and water without you asking ! , just for some perspective of how long ago that was)

75 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:52:29am

re: #68 FurryOldGuyJeans

Just as long as none are T. Boone. ;)

I don’t think he lives anywhere near Houston, but I know next to nothing about the lives of the rich and notorious. ;)

76 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:53:00am

re: #60 Mr. E. Train

“When the going gets tough the tough get weird”. Hunter S. Thompson You can tell who to vote for by seeing who makes your enemies go batshit crazy just by the mention of her name. Oh, im writing this on my PSP. loves my gadgets!

That’s, “when the going gets weird, the weird turn pro”, which is not exactly the same thing.

77 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:53:07am

Palin Staying in Politics

This will give Mark Morford something to continue writing about for many years.

78 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:53:28am

re: #74 sattv4u2

I used to be in the oil bidness at a very young age. The summer I was 16 I worked as a gas station attendant

(gas was under a buck a gallon, and you got a free drinking glass with a fill-up , and I checked your oil and water without you asking ! , just for some perspective of how long ago that was)

Did you give a little salute and say “have a nice day, ma’am”?

79 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:53:46am

re: #53 sattv4u2

WTYF are you talking about? I didn’t say Palin is going back to HIGH SCHOOL to be “schooled”. It’s taking the time (which she didn’t get prior to her VP run) of learning world stage problems. That has NOTHING do you with sexism (wtf!) or fake records. She will be “schooled” by conservatives experts in each of their fields!

* * * *
Palin sized up Iran’s terrorist mullahs murdering protesters in the streets of Tehran in a NEW YORK SECOND.

Obama/Biden/Pelosi waffled 10 days straight about what to say to the mullahs to keep them appeased.

Palin doesn’t pal around with terrorists, period.

THAT takes courage & intelligence of the serious kind, which your “schooled” democrats ain’t got.

80 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:54:09am

re: #78 MandyManners

Did you give a little salute and say “have a nice day, ma’am”?

yes , and it used to piss the GUYS off !

81 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:54:11am

re: #74 sattv4u2

I used to be in the oil bidness at a very young age. The summer I was 16 I worked as a gas station attendant

(gas was under a buck a gallon, and you got a free drinking glass with a fill-up , and I checked your oil and water without you asking ! , just for some perspective of how long ago that was)

I remember being asked by my dad to get a can of gas for the mower and being given a quarter. I returned with a full gallon can and change.

82 OldLineTexan  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:55:22am

re: #81 FurryOldGuyJeans

I remember being asked by my dad to get a can of gas for the mower and being given a quarter. I returned with a full gallon can and change.

DAMN, they had mowers back then? Or did you have a gas-operated goat?

/

83 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:55:27am

re: #81 FurryOldGuyJeans

And a free street map.

84 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:55:28am

I still see the hypocrisy regarding Palin and Obama apparent in the earlier stages of her entering. All of the criticisms levied against her for capability and intellect have never and still aren’t levied against Obama because he’s a good orator.

She has a different style and charisma, but she’s no slouch as a communicator.

There’s a clear double standard between them and there always has been.

85 [deleted]  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:55:28am
86 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:55:30am

re: #58 sattv4u2

oh , and downding NOT for the content of your comment, which you are of course entitled too, but for the ad hominums!

* * * *
Gonna have to “school” yourself, that’s ad homiNEMS.

87 Gang of One  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:56:20am

re: #81 FurryOldGuyJeans

I remember being asked by my dad to get a can of gas for the mower and being given a quarter. I returned with a full gallon can and change.

And your dad could buy a cold can of suds with the change, no doubt.

88 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:56:24am

re: #79 alegrias

* * * *
Palin sized up Iran’s terrorist mullahs murdering protesters in the streets of Tehran in a NEW YORK SECOND.

Obama/Biden/Pelosi waffled 10 days straight about what to say to the mullahs to keep them appeased.

Palin doesn’t pal around with terrorists, period.

THAT takes courage & intelligence of the serious kind, which your “schooled” democrats ain’t got.

I think satt was talking about being “schooled” in the ways of the national political scene, which I agree she desperately needs. This may be her way of getting that “schooling”.

89 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:56:31am

re: #79 alegrias

* * * *
Palin sized up Iran’s terrorist mullahs murdering protesters in the streets of Tehran in a NEW YORK SECOND.

Obama/Biden/Pelosi waffled 10 days straight about what to say to the mullahs to keep them appeased.

Palin doesn’t pal around with terrorists, period.

THAT takes courage & intelligence of the serious kind, which your “schooled” democrats ain’t got.

“MY” schooled democrats,

90 horse  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:56:47am

Actual value adding employment and politics have never been the same thing, no reason for it to change now.

She has transitioned from the former to the later; someone who works to get results for fellow citizens to just another politician pushing causes and agendas. She has given up one of her only strengths, and will probably pick some inappropriate causes and agendas to “support”. It’s too bad, she could have been somebody.

91 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:57:07am

re: #81 FurryOldGuyJeans

I remember being asked by my dad to get a can of gas for the mower and being given a quarter. I returned with a full gallon can and change.

I used to drive round trip LA to San Francisco to LA on $5 of gas.

92 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:57:07am

re: #3 Walter L. Newton

Who will want her?

I would vote for her.

93 [deleted]  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:57:18am
94 The Other Les  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:57:25am

re: #70 FurryOldGuyJeans

Redistributionists

Looters.

95 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:57:28am

re: #86 alegrias

* * * *
Gonna have to “school” yourself, that’s ad homiNEMS.

I’m happy you took the time to go to [Link: www.dictionary.com…]

96 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:57:55am

re: #81 FurryOldGuyJeans

I remember being asked by my dad to get a can of gas for the mower and being given a quarter. I returned with a full gallon can and change.

I remember the same thing too, well almost. I came back with a full can and change, and a lit match. I was a scary little kid that way :)

97 The Other Les  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:58:17am

re: #93 taxfreekiller

then how did O hole get elected other than dumb as rocks Kommie Democrat and vote fraud..

O, is dumb as dirt.

Thus showing the true value of an Ivy League degree.

98 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:58:25am

re: #88 reine.de.tout

I think satt was talking about being “schooled” in the ways of the national political scene, which I agree she desperately needs. This may be her way of getting that “schooling”.

I’ve wexplained that to alegrias, but he/she is too busy with spell check to notice

99 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:58:26am

re: #71 itellu3times

Swell, she can be the political equivalent of a monster truck.


Yeah, that’s pretty much the idea. The Republican base is much more interested in exciting itself than rebuilding a serious political party. She’s probably not going to work on building her credentials, she doesn’t have to. The more simplistic she is the more they like her.
I’d much rather see the Republican party get serious but they aren’t interesting in that. Right now they should be working on getting serious economists (not Ron Paul) working on ideas and platforms but they’re pinning their hopes on Obama’s imminent failure instead of creating their own success. It might work but I’m still anticipating that Obama’s going to be a two term President. We’ll see if the GOP gets serious in 8 years.

100 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:58:28am

re: #47 reine.de.tout

Won’t that be fun to watch?

yes,
i think she has looked at the big picture and made a good move.
she will be very effective at reaching people and at such a critical time, w/ these
leftists in office.
the mfm will be running themselves ragged to cover for o and his thugs.
i think they are having conniption fits now, they sense her mass appeal more than ever. their knees are knocking worrying that she is unstoppable.

101 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:58:32am

re: #71 itellu3times

She needs to tour the lower 48, do some foreign trips, maybe go to Iran and kick Achmadinejad in the balls. She needs to cultivate the press, and good luck with that.

She should go to Germany!

I’d say she should beat the press at their own game while not letting them see her sweat. That would go a long way and take as much thick skin as monster truck sized brass balls. I wouldn’t put it past her.

102 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:59:28am

re: #87 Gang of One

And your dad could buy a cold can of suds with the change, no doubt.

He wasn’t a beer drinker, he was a tee totaler in all but name, but yeah.

103 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:59:43am

re: #90 horse

Actual value adding employment and politics have never been the same thing, no reason for it to change now.

She has transitioned from the former to the later; someone who works to get results for fellow citizens to just another politician pushing causes and agendas. She has given up one of her only strengths, and will probably pick some inappropriate causes and agendas to “support”. It’s too bad, she could have been somebody.

You are making a judgement based on an assumption. Why?

104 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:00:52am

re: #84 BigPapa

I still see the hypocrisy regarding Palin and Obama apparent in the earlier stages of her entering. All of the criticisms levied against her for capability and intellect have never and still aren’t levied against Obama because he’s a good orator.

She has a different style and charisma, but she’s no slouch as a communicator.

There’s a clear double standard between them and there always has been.

Palin doesn’t stutter and stammer.

105 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:01:06am

re: #93 taxfreekiller

then how did O hole get elected other than dumb as rocks Kommie Democrat and vote fraud..

O, is dumb as dirt.

He’s clean and articulate, everybody says so.

That’s hardly the same as smart, John F’ing Kerry is clean and articulate, too, and dumb as an empty ketchup bottle. Obama isn’t stupid, so much as bent.

106 brookly red  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:01:20am

re: #101 BigPapa

She should go to Germany!

I’d say she should beat the press at their own game while not letting them see her sweat. That would go a long way and take as much thick skin as monster truck sized brass balls. I wouldn’t put it past her.

I think she should do a buncha things & see which one makes the MSM scream the loudest, & then do it again.

107 [deleted]  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:01:23am
108 Gang of One  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:01:55am

re: #90 horse

Actual value adding employment and politics have never been the same thing, no reason for it to change now.

She has transitioned from the former to the later; someone who works to get results for fellow citizens to just another politician pushing causes and agendas. She has given up one of her only strengths, and will probably pick some inappropriate causes and agendas to “support”. It’s too bad, she could have been somebody.

She still is a ‘somebody’ or else nobody, especially the MSM, would be watching her. Please explain your thought on this.

109 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:02:02am

re: #90 horse

Actual value adding employment and politics have never been the same thing, no reason for it to change now.

She has transitioned from the former to the later; someone who works to get results for fellow citizens to just another politician pushing causes and agendas. She has given up one of her only strengths, and will probably pick some inappropriate causes and agendas to “support”. It’s too bad, she could have been somebody.

She gave up the governorship for THE most important reason in the WORLD
TAKING CARE OF HER FAMILY
Due to the frivolous lawsuits brought against her her legal bills are approaching ONE MILLION DOLLARS. Tough to pay that off on a governors salary. Making 100 + speaking engagements at 10K + a pop , not so hard!

110 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:02:09am

re: #99 Killgore Trout

Kewl. In the next seven years, Palin can earn a PhD.

111 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:02:20am

re: #88 reine.de.tout

I think satt was talking about being “schooled” in the ways of the national political scene, which I agree she desperately needs. This may be her way of getting that “schooling”.

* * * *
Which “national political scene” politicians do you really respect and want Gov. Palin to emulate? Name some please, whom you really admire & think worth studying.

Chuck Hagel the squirrely Republican gone Obama supporter, who is a Vietnam Veteran and supposedly smart on foreign policy?

WHO exactly is so respected on the “national political scene” and more importantly, LISTENED TO by Americans right now?

112 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:03:53am

re: #107 taxfreekiller

Palin needs to never, ever, not one time go on one of the DNC net work talk shows, all they are good for is lies and fraud and knee capping real Americans, sort of big time iceweasles is all they are.

I agree. She couldn’t hold up to the grilling she would get.

113 Racer X  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:04:11am

Wait, wasn’t Sarah Palin involved in the murder of Michael Jackson?

/

114 Gang of One  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:04:16am

re: #111 alegrias

* * * *
Which “national political scene” politicians do you really respect and want Gov. Palin to emulate? Name some please, whom you really admire & think worth studying.

Chuck Hagel the squirrely Republican gone Obama supporter, who is a Vietnam Veteran and supposedly smart on foreign policy?

WHO exactly is so respected on the “national political scene” and more importantly, LISTENED TO by Americans right now?

I’d venture to say Victor Davis Hanson although he is not a public servant or office holder.

115 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:04:39am

re: #107 taxfreekiller

Palin needs to never, ever, not one time go on one of the DNC net work talk shows, all they are good for is lies and fraud and knee capping real Americans, sort of big time iceweasles is all they are.


Oh, gawd, tfk. Can you just see her on The View with Joy and Whoopie?

/off to make the popcorn

116 [deleted]  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:04:55am
117 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:05:14am

re: #111 alegrias

* * * *
Which “national political scene” politicians do you really respect and want Gov. Palin to emulate? Name some please, whom you really admire & think worth studying.

Chuck Hagel the squirrely Republican gone Obama supporter, who is a Vietnam Veteran and supposedly smart on foreign policy?

WHO exactly is so respected on the “national political scene” and more importantly, LISTENED TO by Americans right now?

I’m not talking about Palin learning to copy anybody.

I’m simply talking about her own personal experiences. She was governor of Alaska, focused on Alaskan issues and talking to the citizens of Alaska.

She needs broader experience to be a player on the national scene. And this may give it to her. It would be a mistake, imo, for her not to put herself in a position to get this experience.

118 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:05:33am

re: #90 horse

Actual value adding employment and politics have never been the same thing, no reason for it to change now.

She has transitioned from the former to the later; someone who works to get results for fellow citizens to just another politician pushing causes and agendas. She has given up one of her only strengths, and will probably pick some inappropriate causes and agendas to “support”. It’s too bad, she could have been somebody.

* * * *
Palin took down the corrupt crony Murkowski governor of Alaska, and worked on getting the billion dollar oil pipeline business going in her state, until DEMOCRATS caused gridlock after McCain/Palin lost and Palin went back to being governor.

Palin can TALK about her real experience “creating & saving jobs” while Pres. Obama only takes your money and redistributes it to cronies, while jobs tank.

119 [deleted]  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:05:41am
120 brookly red  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:05:48am

re: #113 Racer X

Wait, wasn’t Sarah Palin involved in the murder of Michael Jackson?

/

/No, that was Cheney & the CIA…

121 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:05:57am

re: #116 taxfreekiller

zzzzz

Quick, call a doctor, TFK has passed out!
/

122 jaunte  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:06:09am

We like our experienced politicians to be able to lie fluently to Katie Couric about all the newspapers they read daily.

123 LatinGent  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:06:13am

re: #107 taxfreekiller

Palin needs to never, ever, not one time go on one of the DNC net work talk shows, all they are good for is lies and fraud and knee capping real Americans, sort of big time iceweasles is all they are.

Disagree. She needs to hammer the circuit…hard. The more she goes into the Lions Den the better she will look. They wont always be able to beat her down, but they will try….and everyone that sees the `press` do this will eventually tire of it. Her ratings are already rising.

124 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:06:52am

re: #112 Walter L. Newton

I agree. She couldn’t hold up to the grilling she would get.

Well now, she has the spunk, she just needs a few more facts to rub together.

It seems unlikely to happen, that has just not been what it took to become governor of Alaska, and she’s been busy raising a family and shooting moose. That’s all lovely, and no more should be required of a person - unless they choose to run for president.

125 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:08:17am

re: #95 sattv4u2

I’m happy you took the time to go to [Link: www.dictionary.com…]

* * *
SATTV42,

I can outspell you without checking the dictionary, apparently, but that doesn’t make me smarter than you in a real sense.

Same with Gov. Palin. She has intelligence & leadership qualities that can’t be taught, especially by dweeby GOP consultants.

126 Racer X  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:08:22am

I can think of 482 other politicians I dislike more than Sarah Palin.

I hope she sticks around.

127 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:08:43am

re: #113 Racer X

Wait, wasn’t Sarah Palin involved in the murder of Michael Jackson?

/

She is a Jew?

128 soxfan4life  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:09:04am

re: #97 The Other Les

Thus showing the true value of an Ivy League degree.

Isn’t it funny how one President with a Harvard degree is so smart (0bama), and another is the biggest dolt to ever serve(GWB).

129 jaunte  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:09:40am

re: #128 soxfan4life

The irony is nucular.

130 [deleted]  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:09:47am
131 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:10:34am

re: #124 itellu3times

Well now, she has the spunk, she just needs a few more facts to rub together.

It seems unlikely to happen, that has just not been what it took to become governor of Alaska, and she’s been busy raising a family and shooting moose. That’s all lovely, and no more should be required of a person - unless they choose to run for president.

She’s running, at least for the repub nomination. That much is clear (regardless of if she stayed on as gov or not). She now has 2 + years to raise money, pay off her legal bills, collect favors, and most importantly learn what she needs to know come primary time. Her time spent as gov would leave her a LOT less time for all those things

132 Gang of One  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:10:57am

re: #128 soxfan4life

Isn’t it funny how one President with a Harvard degree is so smart (0bama), and another is the biggest dolt to ever serve(GWB).

I think GWB did his undergrad work at Yale, his MBA at Harvard, IIRC.
But yeah, always a double-standard with liberals.

133 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:11:36am

re: #127 Alouette

re: #113 Racer X

Wait, wasn’t Sarah Palin involved in the murder of Michael Jackson?

/

She is a Jew?

Sure. Didn’t Juneau that?

134 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:11:52am

re: #124 itellu3times

Well now, she has the spunk, she just needs a few more facts to rub together.

It seems unlikely to happen, that has just not been what it took to become governor of Alaska, and she’s been busy raising a family and shooting moose. That’s all lovely, and no more should be required of a person - unless they choose to run for president.

Right. The Republican party need intelligent, knowledgeable, hard hitting politicians who can take a stand for what conservatism is all about.

Not soft-hitting “aw shucks” types, not crazy “there’s a Bilderberg up my ass” types and not the “I’m a good egg” party pansies who want to be loved by every liberal in the world.

The left is walking all over us, and dividing us quite nicely, and all we do is help them do it.

It’s damn near lost.

135 LatinGent  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:12:24am

re: #133 solomonpanting

Sure. Didn’t Juneau that?

No, he`s in Denali

136 brookly red  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:13:05am

re: #127 Alouette

She is a Jew?

it’s a lost tribe thing…

137 Gang of One  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:13:23am

re: #127 Alouette

She is a Jew?

re: #133 solomonpanting

Sure. Didn’t Juneau that?

I don’t think so, but Alaska.

138 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:13:26am

re: #125 alegrias

* * *
SATTV42,

I can outspell you without checking the dictionary, apparently, but that doesn’t make me smarter than you in a real sense.

Same with Gov. Palin. She has intelligence & leadership qualities that can’t be taught, especially by dweeby GOP consultants.


Yes , because she was SO articulate obaout those issues during the election! Keep thinking she doesn’t need to be “schooled”. If she takes your advice she’ll end up as nothing more than Geraldine Ferraro, circa 1984

OH , and congratulations on your spelling bee prowess!

139 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:13:34am

re: #133 solomonpanting

Sure. Didn’t Juneau that?

Oh shit, here we go….

140 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:13:48am

re: #113 Racer X

Wait, wasn’t Sarah Palin involved in the murder of Michael Jackson?

/

Lawhawk had a post about that this morning.

141 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:13:58am

re: #133 solomonpanting

Sure. Didn’t Juneau that?

There are Jews in Alaska. The Frozen Chosen.

142 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:14:24am

re: #124 itellu3times

Well now, she has the spunk, she just needs a few more facts to rub together.

It seems unlikely to happen, that has just not been what it took to become governor of Alaska, and she’s been busy raising a family and shooting moose. That’s all lovely, and no more should be required of a person - unless they choose to run for president.

look at o’s (lack of) qualifications: full time community organizer, part time law lecturer, state senator who voted “present” most of the time.
LOL, that grifter got elected to the highest office in the land.

i’m not saying sarah doesn’t need more experience but isn’t it amazing how someone w/ none can get over.

143 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:14:47am

re: #117 reine.de.tout

I’m not talking about Palin learning to copy anybody.

I’m simply talking about her own personal experiences. She was governor of Alaska, focused on Alaskan issues and talking to the citizens of Alaska.

She needs broader experience to be a player on the national scene. And this may give it to her. It would be a mistake, imo, for her not to put herself in a position to get this experience.

* * * * *
Joe Biden from a two-bit state has been “schooling” himself in DC for over 3 decades. Biden never had a state to govern, Biden never met a budget, Biden never ran a lemonade stand.

Biden is supposedly “expert” on foreign affairs after 35 years in DC.
Are you impressed by that gas bag Biden’s “experience”?

I am NOT impressed by strutting gas bags who pretend to have experience in foreign affairs, when their IDEOLOGY is appeasement & blaming America first.

Palin is free of the contagion of leftist appeasenik ideology & reflexive hatred of America.

144 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:15:07am

Yukon stop with the puns now.

145 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:15:44am

How can Jews control the world yet still have a great sense of humor? Hmm……

146 Desert Dog  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:16:21am

re: #141 Alouette

There are Jews in Alaska. The Frozen Chosen.

Alaska puns? We’ll have Nome of that around here!

147 Gang of One  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:16:39am

re: #145 BigPapa

How can Jews control the world yet still have a great sense of humor? Hmm……

We control what people think is funny.

148 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:16:44am

re: #145 BigPapa

How can Jews control the world yet still have a great sense of humor? Hmm……

I always wondered why if everyone says they are so smart and cunning, why did they pick the ONE place in the middle east with NO OIL!

//

149 AuntAcid  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:16:48am

re: #72 OldLineTexan

I didn’t think all oil was the same. Some crude distills differently, like Venezuelan oil, thick and sticky, takes special processing,…some crude is better than others…but what the hale, you’re from TX and I ain’t…

150 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:17:14am

re: #142 nyc redneck

look at o’s (lack of) qualifications: full time community organizer, part time law lecturer, state senator who voted “present” most of the time.
LOL, that grifter got elected to the highest office in the land.

i’m not saying sarah doesn’t need more experience but isn’t it amazing how someone w/ none can get over.

We are not talking about Obama, I don’t want someone who represents me to get a political position because they are a little better than Obama, what does Obama have to do with Palin.

I want someone who is the BEST, someone we can truthfully say is the BEST, not someone who we have to say is better than an idiot.

151 Baelzar  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:17:31am

Keerist. People never learn. Palin is now poisonous.

Another 4 years of Democrat rule.

152 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:17:33am

re: #122 jaunte

We like our experienced politicians to be able to lie fluently to Katie Couric about all the newspapers they read daily.

* * * *
Exactly. Why are Lizards impressed by gas bags kissing Couric’s ass?

Charles Johnson of LGF pointed out what CBS attempted to do to President Bush in WARTIME.

Why are people trying to impress partisan CBS, Couric, Brian Williams or other leftists with agendas they actively promote?

153 soxfan4life  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:17:39am

re: #143 alegrias

* * * * *
Joe Biden from a two-bit state has been “schooling” himself in DC for over 3 decades. Biden never had a state to govern, Biden never met a budget, Biden never ran a lemonade stand.

Biden is supposedly “expert” on foreign affairs after 35 years in DC.
Are you impressed by that gas bag Biden’s “experience”?

I am NOT impressed by strutting gas bags who pretend to have experience in foreign affairs, when their IDEOLOGY is appeasement & blaming America first.

Palin is free of the contagion of leftist appeasenik ideology & reflexive hatred of America.

How’s that 3 state solution in Iraq working out for Joe? Foreign policy expert my ass.

154 djranger  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:17:57am

re: #18 zombie

Yes! Quit polarizing the issues and use some common sense.

155 realwest  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:18:05am

Holy smokes! I go away for a few hours to do some chores and now Charles has TWO threads up I need to read!
OY!

156 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:18:13am

re: #145 BigPapa

How can Jews control the world yet still have a great sense of humor? Hmm……

It’s easy once you get your Bering’s Strait.

157 Gang of One  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:18:32am

re: #151 Baelzar

Keerist. People never learn. Palin is now poisonous.

Another 4 years of Democrat rule.

Oh, really? How so?

158 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:18:41am

I learned that Frued thought all humor came from anger.

Now that we know there’s no humor in fundamentalist Islam, where do you think their anger comes from? Again class, ‘Hmmm…….’

159 Render  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:18:55am

I’d vote for her. She cannot possibly be worse then what we have now.

I’d vote for Cheney as well, but I think he’s a bit too old and physically frail at this point.

I note that the Great Zero appears to be aging very rapidly. A lot more gray and a lot more lines on his face then there was during the election. Something tells me he might also be regretting his campaign rhetoric about Afghanistan right about now. All he managed to do was to blow the cover on a military operation that was planned long before he announced his candidacy and that he now bears sole leadership responsibility for.

LITTLE
DEATH,
R

160 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:19:01am

re: #145 BigPapa

How can Jews control the world yet still have a great sense of humor? Hmm……

No soap, radio for you!

161 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:19:23am

re: #156 solomonpanting

MAJOR upding for working in both discussions with one pun!

162 AuntAcid  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:19:28am

re: #146 Desert Dog

Alaska puns? We’ll have Nome of that around here!

and ICBMs…

163 poteen  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:19:34am
Palin is free of the contagion of leftist appeasenik ideology & reflexive hatred of America.

These are the opponents she must identify and learn to defeat.

164 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:19:45am

re: #148 sattv4u2

I always wondered why if everyone says they are so smart and cunning, why did they pick the ONE place in the middle east with NO OIL!

//

Ya got me on that one! LOL.

165 brookly red  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:19:56am

re: #151 Baelzar

Keerist. People never learn. Palin is now poisonous.

Another 4 years of Democrat rule.

phurazzzzzzzzz!

166 realwest  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:20:25am

re: #157 Gang of One
Ah well, let’s see here:

Baelzar

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I tell ya, 37 comments and no links in approaching two years on LGF! Man, some of these sleepers are GOOD!

167 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:21:47am

re: #159 Render

I’d vote for her. She cannot possibly be worse then what we have now…

But, is she the BEST. Is there anyone else you would vote for that you consider better, if they decided to run for president?

If you know such a person, such a politician, then you should be striving, working, campaigning and trying to convince that this person is the best.

It sounds like everyone is ready to settle for just better, not best.

168 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:21:55am

Sarah Palin has really damaged her political future by quitting halfway through her term as governor. Her opponents - both Republican and Democrat - can now easily portray her as someone who caves in under pressure and gives up.

169 rightymouse  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:22:20am

re: #130 taxfreekiller

net work talk shows are produced and edited by the DNC and only the Obama White House Chief of Staff can allow the final OK to show them.

not one of them is worth tits on bore a hog

I think you’ll find this one amusing. Don Lemon at CNN has his talking point assumption stomped on. Watch his body language. lol!

Youtube Video
170 Desert Dog  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:23:59am

If the Dems and their lackeys in the MSM stop attacking Palin, you’ll know she is no longer a threat to them. If they continue with this hysterics, you know they are terrified of this woman.

I thought she damaged her electability beyond repair during the election, and then, I thought she made a mistake resigning from the Governorship, BUT, she seems to have a resilience that is unexpected. If she came across a little sharper at first after the convention, she would have been an unstoppable juggernaut….perhaps she still can be?

I would rather have her in there than the current bunch, that is for sure.

171 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:24:10am

re: #153 soxfan4life

How’s that 3 state solution in Iraq working out for Joe? Foreign policy expert my ass.

* * * *
Intelligent people here should be demanding Biden go to the woodshed.

Intelligent people here could point out EVERY DAY how Biden is way stupider than Palin, but nooooooooooo!

Biden hung around DC at his FIRST AND ONLY JOB (Senator from little tiny tax shelter Delaware) for over 35 years and is somehow considered “qualified” and “expert” enough to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

172 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:24:46am

re: #38 zombie

I’m not sure. A lot. And from Venezuela too.

We need to stop pouring our money into the pockets of people who hate us and our way of life. We are funding our own destruction.

We get most of our oil from Canada and Mexico.

173 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:25:04am

re: #168 Charles

Sarah Palin has really damaged her political future by quitting halfway through her term as governor. Her opponents - both Republican and Democrat - can now easily portray her as someone who caves in under pressure and gives up.

But that doesn’t matter Charles, not in the least. She is cute and sexy and a woman and a conservative and she is spunky. That certainly describes the perfect candidate. I think my list is complete.

///// (major sarcasm).

174 Wendya  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:25:09am

re: #151 Baelzar

Keerist. People never learn. Palin is now poisonous.

Another 4 years of Democrat rule.

Yeah, let’s find another McCain and then people will love us! //

175 Desert Dog  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:25:49am

re: #173 Walter L. Newton

But that doesn’t matter Charles, not in the least. She is cute and sexy and a woman and a conservative and she is spunky. That certainly describes the perfect candidate. I think my list is complete.

///// (major sarcasm).

Yes, the American Idol voters approve….and THAT is what really counts, right?

176 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:25:52am

re: #171 alegrias

* * * *
Intelligent people here should be demanding Biden go to the woodshed.

Intelligent people here could point out EVERY DAY how Biden is way stupider than Palin, but nooooooooooo!

Biden hung around DC at his FIRST AND ONLY JOB (Senator from little tiny tax shelter Delaware) for over 35 years and is somehow considered “qualified” and “expert” enough to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

Many here talk about what an idiot Plugs is on a daily basis. It’s not done in connection with how smart Palin is, though. So?

177 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:26:04am

re: #168 Charles

Sarah Palin has really damaged her political future by quitting halfway through her term as governor. Her opponents - both Republican and Democrat - can now easily portray her as someone who caves in under pressure and gives up.

That they can and I’m sure they will. However she can limit a LOT of the damage by frankly stating that due to her mounting legal bills and the time it took from her duties to defend herself she couldn’t serve the people of Alaska the way she knew she wanted to. Also, again due to those bills, for the financial well being of her family she had to address that debt 1st, and after 2 or so years on the lecture/ appearance circuit she will have done that so she can then make a run at the nomination unencumbered by A) the lawsuits and B) the debt

178 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:26:37am

re: #168 Charles

Sarah Palin has really damaged her political future by quitting halfway through her term as governor. Her opponents - both Republican and Democrat - can now easily portray her as someone who caves in under pressure and gives up.

As of right now, yes. However, she can redeem herself by hanging the destruction of her governorship on the MSM and smear machine in a sustained and concerted effort, obviously without their help. It’s a gargantuan task but not out of the realm of possibility. If she does it and succeeds, she can show she’s not a quitter.

I’m not saying this is what’s happening or will, but after what I’ve seen the last few years in US politics, anything can happen.

179 Lincolntf  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:26:43am

Good news for reasonable people everywhere.
She’ll have a couple of years dealing with every hysterical windbag on the Left calling her all sorts of names and making all sorts of bizarre accusations. That kind of exposure of the hatred and elitism that fuel the Democrat Party can only help the Republicans in the long run.

I think I’m getting BBQ sauce all over my keyboard….mmmm…ribs…mmmmm..

180 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:27:04am

re: #171 alegrias

* * * *
Intelligent people here should be demanding Biden go to the woodshed.

Intelligent people here could point out EVERY DAY how Biden is way stupider than Palin, but nooooooooooo!

Biden hung around DC at his FIRST AND ONLY JOB (Senator from little tiny tax shelter Delaware) for over 35 years and is somehow considered “qualified” and “expert” enough to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

Where have/ do you see ANYONE on this blog defending Biden?

181 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:27:18am

re: #163 poteen

These are the opponents she must identify and learn to defeat.

* * * * *
I would argue AMERICANS need to “identify” & defeat or at least shun leftist ideologues & appeasement mongers, masquerading as responsible centrist democrats.

182 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:27:23am

re: #143 alegrias

* * * * *
Joe Biden from a two-bit state has been “schooling” himself in DC for over 3 decades. Biden never had a state to govern, Biden never met a budget, Biden never ran a lemonade stand.

Biden is supposedly “expert” on foreign affairs after 35 years in DC.
Are you impressed by that gas bag Biden’s “experience”?

I am NOT impressed by strutting gas bags who pretend to have experience in foreign affairs, when their IDEOLOGY is appeasement & blaming America first.

Palin is free of the contagion of leftist appeasenik ideology & reflexive hatred of America.

OK, well, I haven’t seen anyone here say they are a fan of Biden, so your point isn’t clear.

I think it is a mistake for anybody to be so arrogant as to believe they are perfect as is, and do not need any further exposure to a wider range of experience. Acknowledging that is not disrespectful to Palin.

183 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:27:26am

re: #171 alegrias

* * * *
Intelligent people here should be demanding Biden go to the woodshed.

Intelligent people here could point out EVERY DAY how Biden is way stupider than Palin, but nooooooooooo!

Biden hung around DC at his FIRST AND ONLY JOB (Senator from little tiny tax shelter Delaware) for over 35 years and is somehow considered “qualified” and “expert” enough to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency.

We are talking about PALIN. You want to compare someone like Palin is is better than the idiot Biden, but is Palin the BEST that the conservative movement can come up with?

If you can say yes, she is the best, than good. If you think we can do BETTER, find the BEST, then we need to get to work and stop wasting time.

It sounds to me, in an effort to win at any cost, a lot of conservatives are going to settle for better, and loose.

184 poteen  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:27:40am

re: #168 Charles

Sarah Palin has really damaged her political future by quitting halfway through her term as governor. Her opponents - both Republican and Democrat - can now easily portray her as someone who caves in under pressure and gives up.

True enough, but running it through political ‘cycles’,for lack of a better word, for a few years may minimize it effect when and if she makes another national campaign.

185 pink freud  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:28:11am

re: #168 Charles

OTOH, McCain was deservedly portrayed as someone who was capable of enduring enormous pressure without caving in, leading all to expect that he could go the distance, yet he gave up.

Past doesn’t necessarily predict future.

186 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:28:13am

re: #180 sattv4u2

Where have/ do you see ANYONE on this blog defending Biden?

I haven’t seen it.

187 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:28:40am

Palin is a nice local or regional GOP figure, but not POTUS material. She will help others raise money and hopefully will make a lot of money to help her own family. But if you ever wondered if she has the gravitas needed to be a legitimate contender for the White House, that question was answered a few days ago when her daughter’s “Baby Daddy” talked to the press about her plans and said she was planning to work on making money. The fact that Levi Johnston, an 18 year old kid from Wasilla felt comfortable enough to dish about Palin publicly tells me that she doesn’t have enough juice to keep family members in line, let alone the sharks in DC and her other political opponents.

188 AuntAcid  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:28:54am

re: #172 Sharmuta

We get most of our oil from Canada and Mexico.

Screw Canada. Screw Mexico. We got batteries. We got wind mills. We got solar. We can freeze in the dark better than anybody. After all, we’re America.
God have mercy!

189 Baelzar  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:29:04am

Ha ha, okay. I don’t post a lot, so I’m some sort of plant. Gotcha.

Tell you what, geniuses. Run Sarah Palin. Get her “ya sure, you betcha” schtick out there on all the talk shows for the next four years and see how short people’s memories are. Let her bone up (or not, as some of you here support) on the national issues and we’ll just see.

If she wins anything Congress or above, I’ll not only eat crow publicly but I’ll donate $100.00 to whatever charity Charles picks. I want 10 of you to stand up and do the same, since, well, you’re obviously right. Safe bet.

I voted for McCain/Palin, but Republicans are taking the wrong lesson away from the loss. They think they need MORE Neocon. I think they need less.

That’s the great thing about this, see? We only have to wait to see if I’m full of shit, and all you brainiacs - who pretend to have the monopoly on conservatism - are psychic.

190 poteen  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:29:05am

re: #181 alegrias

* * * * *
I would argue AMERICANS need to “identify” & defeat or at least shun leftist ideologues & appeasement mongers, masquerading as responsible centrist democrats.

//What? You want to take all the fun out of politics?

191 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:29:10am

re: #168 Charles

Sarah Palin has really damaged her political future by quitting halfway through her term as governor. Her opponents - both Republican and Democrat - can now easily portray her as someone who caves in under pressure and gives up.

That’s certainly one of the things they’ll hit her with. But I’m not sure the voters will care.

192 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:29:16am

re: #183 Walter L. Newton

Yea, my spelling and stuff is getting sloppy, I’m passionate, so sue me.

193 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:29:18am

re: #186 reine.de.tout

I haven’t seen it.

{sigh}

194 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:30:09am

re: #184 poteen

True enough, but running it through political ‘cycles’,for lack of a better word, for a few years may minimize it effect when and if she makes another national campaign.

It won’t change the level of misogyny we still have in our society.

195 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:30:30am

re: #193 sattv4u2

{sigh}

We can explain it to her, but we can’t understand it for her.

196 realwest  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:30:42am

re: #168 Charles
Charles, you certainly may be correct in that. However, with the help of the MSM, her Republican party enemies and Demcrats have mangaged to create an image of Palin that wasn’t true to begin with.
I too wish she had simply said she wouldn’t run for re-election and stayed on as Govenor. But, it would be difficult - given the time required to be a governor (even if a lame duck one) and to travel from Alaska to nearly any place in the lower 48 to campaign for folks she thinks worthy of her help.
She may have ended her own political aspirations, but I’m not all that sure that - after taking all of the vile crap thrown at her and her children by the MSM (the same MSM who respected Obama who asked that HIS children not be dragged into the campaign) - she really wants to be in political office again.

197 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:30:55am

re: #187 _RememberTonyC

Palin is a nice local or regional GOP figure, but not POTUS material. She will help others raise money and hopefully will make a lot of money to help her own family. But if you ever wondered if she has the gravitas needed to be a legitimate contender for the White House, that question was answered a few days ago when her daughter’s “Baby Daddy” talked to the press about her plans and said she was planning to work on making money. The fact that Levi Johnston, an 18 year old kid from Wasilla felt comfortable enough to dish about Palin publicly tells me that she doesn’t have enough juice to keep family members in line, let alone the sharks in DC and her other political opponents.

Not sure he’s a family member.

198 Desert Dog  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:31:03am

re: #183 Walter L. Newton

We are talking about PALIN. You want to compare someone like Palin is is better than the idiot Biden, but is Palin the BEST that the conservative movement can come up with?

If you can say yes, she is the best, than good. If you think we can do BETTER, find the BEST, then we need to get to work and stop wasting time.

It sounds to me, in an effort to win at any cost, a lot of conservatives are going to settle for better, and loose.

We’ll our beloved President is the BEST the Dems could muster, so what’s the difference? Obama is polished and educated, but I submit he is more destructive and harmful to the USA than Sarah Palin ever could be. His worldview is wrong, his political policies are wrong, the direction he is taking the country is wrong.

199 Wendya  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:31:23am

re: #187 _RememberTonyC

The fact that Levi Johnston, an 18 year old kid from Wasilla felt comfortable enough to dish about Palin publicly tells me that she doesn’t have enough juice to keep family members in line, let alone the sharks in DC and her other political opponents.


It’s easy to pile on when you’re being paid for interviews by people who hate the person you’re smearing. As for keeping people in line, I’d just as soon have less “mob bosses” in Washington and more free thinkers.

200 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:31:58am

OT - Democrats in the News:

Ex-lawmaker faces 5th child porn count

Former assemblyman Neil Cohen (D-Union) was indicted on an additional child pornography possession charge yesterday in Superior Court in Mercer County, Attorney General Anne Milgram said.

Ex-Blagojevich aide pleads guilty

CHICAGO - A former chief of staff to Rod Blagojevich pleaded guilty yesterday to taking part in a scheme to use President Obama’s vacated Senate seat as leverage to get the then-governor of Illinois into a high-paying job. John Harris, 47, also promised he would be a government witness if - as expected - Blagojevich goes to trial on federal racketeering conspiracy charges.

San Diego County deputies arrest 2 at fundraiser

ENCINITAS, Calif.—Deputies responding to a noise complaint used pepper spray on attendees at a political fundraising party and arrested two guests after reportedly feeling threatened by the crowd, officials said. Shari Barman, 60, was arrested and jailed Friday on suspicion of battery on a peace officer and obstruction of a peace officer at her Cardiff home during a fundraising event she was holding for Francine Busby, a Democrat seeking the 50th Congressional District seat, San Diego County sheriff’s Sgt. Thomas Yancey said.

Judge, two others, indicted in alleged campaign scheme

A Los Angeles Superior Court judge has been indicted on charges of trying to bribe his opponent in a 2008 election campaign, a spokesman for state Atty. Gen. Jerry Brown said Thursday evening. Judge Harvey A. Silberman [Democrat] and two political consultants are accused of trying to induce Deputy Dist. Atty. Serena Murillo not to run against him in the June 2008 election — apparently unsuccessfully, because she did run, losing by a margin of 53% to 47%. The three are accused of two counts each of solicitation. The charges were filed June 24, but Brown spokesman Scott Gerber said they were only unsealed Thursday.

201 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:31:58am

re: #180 sattv4u2

Where have/ do you see ANYONE on this blog defending Biden?

Well, he can get down on it.


Youtube Video
202 Miss Trixie  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:32:03am

Afternoon, lizards!

*snicker* It’s pretty comical.

Youtube Video
203 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:32:06am

re: #189 Baelzar

If she wins anything Congress or above, I’ll not only eat crow publicly but I’ll donate $100.00 to whatever charity Charles picks.

I’m in , She WILL run for something in the future. My guess is she’ll try for Repub Pres 2012. She won;’t get the nomination, but she will either
A) go back to Alask and be elected to congress or Senator
B) be picked for a cabinet spot in the next repub admin!

204 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:32:18am

re: #189 Baelzar


Tell you what, geniuses…..
and all you brainiacs

Your father obviously never touched your butthole.

205 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:32:33am

re: #187 _RememberTonyC

The fact that Levi Johnston, an 18 year old kid from Wasilla felt comfortable enough to dish about Palin publicly tells me that she doesn’t have enough juice to keep family members in line,

I don’t think ‘comfortable enough’ has anything to do with it. He’s just a white trash punk that the Palin family fortunately avoided bringing on board. As for ‘making money’ Palin herself has been upfront about it.

206 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:32:50am

re: #142 nyc redneck

look at o’s (lack of) qualifications: full time community organizer, part time law lecturer, state senator who voted “present” most of the time.
LOL, that grifter got elected to the highest office in the land.

i’m not saying sarah doesn’t need more experience but isn’t it amazing how someone w/ none can get over.

Obama did play the political and candidate game well, with his “300” advisors and such.

He has yet to get anything done of his own initiative BUT get elected, and I don’t know that he will, but again, the way to go about that is to build the team.

207 Lincolntf  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:32:51am

re: #200 Gus 802

Makes you wish some of them had quit halfway through their terms, doesn’t it?

208 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:32:57am

re: #197 debutaunt

Not sure he’s a family member.


you’re splitting hairs …. he’s the father of her grandchild, that’s close enough for me.

209 Desert Dog  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:33:02am

re: #180 sattv4u2

Where have/ do you see ANYONE on this blog defending Biden?

I think Joe Biden is the finest VP we’ve ever had. He is smarter than Einstein, more handsome than Brad Pitt, stronger than Superman and possesses a political instinct that far superior to any other VP.

/Joe Biden’s Mom

210 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:33:22am

re: #170 Desert Dog

If the Dems and their lackeys in the MSM stop attacking Palin, you’ll know she is no longer a threat to them. If they continue with this hysterics, you know they are terrified of this woman.


That brings up another important point. When the left focuses on Palin her fans misinterpret this as fear. What the lefties are doing is attacking an easy target but the right interprets this as fear. The same thing happened with Coulter; every time she said something ugly the right would praise her for agitating the lefties. Same thing happens on the left with Mikey Moore. The Right doesn’t attack Mikey because they fear him. He’s an easy target.

Also I think Palin feeds the conservative’s new victim mentality. They feel oppressed and unfairly picked on and Palin is the poster child for it. I really don’t think it’s the direction conservatives should be taking but a lot of conservatives find it very appealing.

211 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:33:24am

re: #176 MandyManners

Many here talk about what an idiot Plugs is on a daily basis. It’s not done in connection with how smart Palin is, though. So?

* * * * * *
Despite their media-touted brilliance & awesomeness at unification & embodiment of all our hopes & dreams, Obama/Biden’s popularity is going down because they are ineffectual at turning the economy around or defending people who believe in freedom.

I’m just happy despite 8 months of Palin bathashon, Americans understand the Brilliant Team isn’t cutting it despite their roundly praised “education” and “experience”.

212 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:33:25am

re: #198 Desert Dog

We’ll our beloved President is the BEST the Dems could muster, so what’s the difference? Obama is polished and educated, but I submit he is more destructive and harmful to the USA than Sarah Palin ever could be. His worldview is wrong, his political policies are wrong, the direction he is taking the country is wrong.

The difference? Do you have to ask? I want our best, period, not someone who is simply better than their best. This is our country we are talking about, not a popularity contest, not the next round at American Idol, not the next Academy Award… geeeeshshhhh.

213 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:33:44am

re: #168 Charles

Sarah Palin has really damaged her political future by quitting halfway through her term as governor. Her opponents - both Republican and Democrat - can now easily portray her as someone who caves in under pressure and gives up.

she can prove them wrong by coming out strong as a spokesperson for conservatism. her philosophy is appealing and so is she, personally.
anyone who thinks she caves under pressure might be in for a surprise.
some people see her decision to quit her term as governor as a bold move.
it is going to be really interesting to see how it plays out.
obviously i’m rooting for her.

214 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:34:15am

re: #209 Desert Dog

I think Joe Biden is the finest VP we’ve ever had. He is smarter than Einstein, more handsome than Brad Pitt, stronger than Superman and possesses a political instinct that far superior to any other VP.

/Joe Biden’s Mom

At a picnic table, you will find him there.

215 poteen  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:34:21am

re: #194 Sharmuta

She has already raised the level of philogyny immensely. On the R side. The increase of misogyny on the D side can only hurt them.

216 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:34:43am

Wow- I think it’s interesting so many of you have completely forgotten about the levels of misogyny we saw from this last election.

This country isn’t ready for a woman president. The democrats are so not ready for a woman president- they screwed over one of their own.

217 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:34:55am

re: #189 Baelzar

Should we bow to your greatness now?

218 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:35:09am

re: #208 _RememberTonyC

you’re splitting hairs …. he’s the father of her grandchild, that’s close enough for me.

Heirs?

219 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:35:26am

re: #202 Miss Trixie

Hi darls! I logged in yesterday right after your thunderstorms hit yesterday so I missed ya? Did little miss make it thru the boomers ok?

220 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:35:37am

Proof that Frued was right here, on LGF!

Humor is hiding anger, especially when stalkers go:

Insult/sarc/joke/insult/sarc/something/sarc/insult/joke/sarc.

I sure pay attention to the (something) when that happens!

221 Lincolntf  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:35:40am

re: #210 Killgore Trout

I think most Conservatives support her because of both her success in Alaska and her plain-spoken honesty. If Repubs wanted to wallow in some state of perpetual victimhood, they’d be Dems.

222 rightside  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:35:47am

re: #216 Sharmuta

As much as I dislike shrillary, they treated her like shit, because she is a woman.

223 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:35:50am

re: #199 Wendya

It’s easy to pile on when you’re being paid for interviews by people who hate the person you’re smearing. As for keeping people in line, I’d just as soon have less “mob bosses” in Washington and more free thinkers.


it’s not so much a matter of being a “mob boss,” but having enough stature and respect within your own circle that nobody would want to do or say anything to harm you. And as much as I like Palin personally, and even think she could be a Senator someday, she is simply not POTUS material.

224 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:37:41am

re: #216 Sharmuta

Wow- I think it’s interesting so many of you have completely forgotten about the levels of misogyny we saw from this last election.

This country isn’t ready for a woman president. The democrats are so not ready for a woman president- they screwed over one of their own.

I didn’t think we were ready for a black president either but here we are. I think a woman can win but we just haven’t had the right candidate yet.

225 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:38:10am

re: #216 Sharmuta

Who’s the best one to take on the misogyny Sharm? Right now, Palin. Hillary has been parked to the side lot for now.

226 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:38:18am

re: #223 _RememberTonyC

it’s not so much a matter of being a “mob boss,” but having enough stature and respect within your own circle that nobody would want to do or say anything to harm you. And as much as I like Palin personally, and even think she could be a Senator someday, she is simply not POTUS material.

Boy, it doesn’t take much to be a senator, does it, I mean, look at some of these. And the worst of the congressmen/women are really pitiful.

Something not clicking right in the system, methinks.

227 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:38:30am

re: #205 wahabicorridor

I don’t think ‘comfortable enough’ has anything to do with it. He’s just a white trash punk that the Palin family fortunately avoided bringing on board. As for ‘making money’ Palin herself has been upfront about it.


I think she SHOULD go make herself some money. And I want her to do really well in politics and also in her personal life. And if she goeas to the Senate from Alaska, that would be great. But she will NEVER be President.

228 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:38:33am

re: #207 Lincolntf

Makes you wish some of them had quit halfway through their terms, doesn’t it?

Quit or never started. I remain committed to having Democrats take more vacations. //

229 poteen  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:39:05am

re: #222 rightside

As much as I dislike shrillary, they treated her like shit, because she is a woman.

I don’t know. I think a lot was because she’s a Clinton. Her husband treated her like shit. She stood by him. The Chicago Dems took advantage. Palin won’t have that disadvantage.

230 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:39:20am

re: #218 debutaunt

Heirs?

good one … she’d like to split THAT heir

231 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:39:24am

re: #180 sattv4u2

Where have/ do you see ANYONE on this blog defending Biden?

* * * * *
We all know Joe Biden has the job Palin was considered so unfit for by many, but I argue it is Biden who is a complete unfit, unqualified buffoon despite his “better” credentials many here insist Palin lacks.

I would take Palin over Biden any day, in the Vice President’s slot.

I believe Palin would have been like Cheney with respect to keeping our CIA secrets secret in the interest of defending America and keeping Americans safe.

232 Lincolntf  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:39:25am

re: #223 _RememberTonyC

“Not POTUS material”? She’s over the age of 35 and a natural-born citizen. That’s all she needs. Now she might not be the MSM version of a POTUS, but they picked a shady character who was hustling deals on the South Side of Chicago and made him into POTUS material, so I don’t think there is any real standard for who has and who hasn’t the right stuff.

233 realwest  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:39:54am

re: #224 Killgore Trout
Hi Killgore - see part of the problem with that is that we’ve never had a woman candidate for POTUS. And, if Hillary couldn’t get over the top, I think it’s gonna be a loooong time before we see one too.

234 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:39:59am

Oh, I almost forgot! Didja all know that Sarah is really a racist? Oh, yeah, Frank Rich of the NYT is here to explain it to us.

The real wave she’s riding is a loud, resonant surge of resentment and victimization that’s larger than issues like abortion and gay civil rights.

That resentment is in part about race, of course. When Palin referred to Alaska as “a microcosm of America” during the 2008 campaign, it was in defiance of the statistical reality that her state’s tiny black and Hispanic populations are unrepresentative of her nation. She stood for the “real America,” she insisted, and the identity of the unreal America didn’t have to be stated explicitly for audiences to catch her drift. Her convention speech’s signature line was a deftly coded putdown of her presumably shiftless big-city opponent: “I guess a small-town mayor is sort of like a community organizer, except that you have actual responsibilities.” (Funny how this wisdom has been forgotten by her supporters now that she has abandoned her own actual responsibilities in public office.)

Thanks, Frank, now we understand everything………..

235 Lincolntf  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:40:41am

re: #234 wahabicorridor

You’re nobody until the NYT calls you a racist.

236 Desert Dog  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:41:07am

re: #210 Killgore Trout

That brings up another important point. When the left focuses on Palin her fans misinterpret this as fear. What the lefties are doing is attacking an easy target but the right interprets this as fear. The same thing happened with Coulter; every time she said something ugly the right would praise her for agitating the lefties. Same thing happens on the left with Mikey Moore. The Right doesn’t attack Mikey because they fear him. He’s an easy target.

Also I think Palin feeds the conservative’s new victim mentality. They feel oppressed and unfairly picked on and Palin is the poster child for it. I really don’t think it’s the direction conservatives should be taking but a lot of conservatives find it very appealing.

KT your Koolaid mustache must be permanent by now. If she is no threat to these clowns, why did they expend such an enormous effort to destroy her? Why are the continuing even today? If she is a harmless bimbo with no chance of doing anything, why bother? Could it be explained by the Sadist worldview of the liberal press? Perhaps, but if she runs for anything again, we will see the same tsunami of hate that tried to get her last time….the same one that attacked GWB for all those years…the same one that rises up anytime the right gets a popular candidate or gets elected.

237 Wendya  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:41:13am

re: #210 Killgore Trout

That brings up another important point. When the left focuses on Palin her fans misinterpret this as fear. What the lefties are doing is attacking an easy target but the right interprets this as fear. The same thing happened with Coulter; every time she said something ugly the right would praise her for agitating the lefties. Same thing happens on the left with Mikey Moore. The Right doesn’t attack Mikey because they fear him. He’s an easy target.

Also I think Palin feeds the conservative’s new victim mentality. They feel oppressed and unfairly picked on and Palin is the poster child for it. I really don’t think it’s the direction conservatives should be taking but a lot of conservatives find it very appealing.


I think you’re living in an alternate universe.

The left is obsessed and consumed with rage and hatred of Palin. They treated her as if she were running at the top of the ticket against Obama. They are still treating her as if the election had not yet occurred. Maybe someone ought to tell them Obama won and Palin was never running against him.

238 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:41:32am

re: #222 rightside

As much as I dislike shrillary, they treated her like shit, because she is a woman.

Absolutely. The democrats were able to do something for me I never thought possible- I felt sorry for hillary.

But at the same time- it showed me the misogyny isn’t confined to one party. Both Sarah and Hillary were targets- and it was more than politics. It was sexism. And women are misogynists too- women were nasty to both Sarah and Hill.

By the end of the election- I was throughly disgusted, and convinced a woman cannot win the Presidency with such cultural misogyny running rampant.

239 rightside  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:41:32am

re: #229 poteen

I am sure that was part of it. But young black man against older white woman… Being a female was part of it.

Palin was viciously attacked by the willing accomplices in the media. I am convinced that was the most brutal, intense attack on anyone in politics, in the history of the country.

240 SixDegrees  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:41:34am

re: #32 AuntAcid

Just how much oil does the US get from the ME?

To be strict, almost none. The US buys it’s imported oil on the world market, and due to efficiencies nearly all of that winds up coming from Canada, Mexico and South America, roughly in that order. We currently produce nearly half of the oil we consume ourselves, although I haven’t checked the exact percentage in a while; it used to be slightly over half, but it has been falling in recent years. Let’s say between 55% to 60% of our oil comes from outside our borders. We don’t buy a lot of Middle Eastern oil simply because it isn’t efficient to ship it here, compared to obtaining oil from our neighbors. My guess would be that in terms of actual point of origin, less than 10% of the oil physically flowing into this country comes from the Middle East.

However, a barrel of oil bought on the world market is still a barrel of oil consumed, no matter where it comes from, and Middle East producers benefit because demand drives pricing. If the US - currently the world’s largest consumer of oil - were to reduce it’s consumption by even a few percent, the effect on supply would be dramatic enough to drive world prices downward, Middle East prices right along with them.

241 realwest  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:41:45am

Well y’all it’s been short but grand out here this afternoon.
But I gotta go. Hope you all have a great day and that I get to see you all down the road tonight!

242 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:42:06am

has sarah actually even said she is running for any office?
my understanding is she just wants to get involved in steering our country away from the direction o is taking us, at a million miles an hour straight toward the edge of the cliff.

243 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:42:13am

re: #227 _RememberTonyC

But she will NEVER be President.

I avoid making long-term political predictions myself, but I would be interested in hearing the reason(s) for yours.

244 Desert Dog  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:42:43am

re: #217 DEZes

Should we bow to your greatness now?

Yes, but face the other way and drop your pants slightly….to fully express our level of respect, of course.

245 Wendya  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:43:05am

re: #223 _RememberTonyC

she is simply not POTUS material.

Not as long as the right tries to find a leader to worship as well.

246 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:43:28am

re: #225 BigPapa

Who’s the best one to take on the misogyny Sharm? Right now, Palin. Hillary has been parked to the side lot for now.

We are the ones who need to deal with misogyny in our culture. It’s not going to get better if we ignore it, if we think it’s an issue for others to solve, or if we deny it’s a problem. Stopping misogyny starts with individuals like you and me.

247 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:43:30am

re: #234 wahabicorridor

Frank Rich is a rabid ideologue and an intellectual hack. Thanks for demonstrating why.

248 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:43:35am

re: #239 rightside

I am sure that was part of it. But young black man against older white woman… Being a female was part of it.

Palin was viciously attacked by the willing accomplices in the media. I am convinced that was the most brutal, intense attack on anyone in politics, in the history of the country.

I was stunned by some of the female moonbats I know and their hatred.

249 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:43:50am

re: #244 Desert Dog

Yes, but face the other way and drop your pants slightly….to fully express our level of respect, of course.

I like the way you think’
*salutes*

250 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:43:53am

re: #239 rightside

I am convinced that was the most brutal, intense attack on anyone in politics, in the history of the country.

Not even close. Read up on Mary Todd Lincoln.

251 Baelzar  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:44:04am

You guys are all class. The bet stands, and so far there’s one taker.

252 poteen  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:44:23am

re: #233 realwest

Hi Killgore - see part of the problem with that is that we’ve never had a woman candidate for POTUS. And, if Hillary couldn’t get over the top, I think it’s gonna be a loooong time before we see one too.

Hey RW. I disagree. I think it will be 2012 or 2016 depending on Obama. Both parties know what ‘Products’ the public is buying and they will sell them.

253 Miss Trixie  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:45:05am

re: #219 wahabicorridor

Hi darls! I logged in yesterday right after your thunderstorms hit yesterday so I missed ya? Did little miss make it thru the boomers ok?

Hiya, toots! It took a long while to calm her enough so that she could snooze but eventually she did. It poured and poured and poured for most of the day (lots of boomers and lightning strikes) then we were issued a tornado warning last night. The temps rose significantly into humidity and the sky churned into a ominous yellow threat so I shut off everything and went into the basement. Eventually it passed, we’re ok and we’ve a gorgeous summer day.

How’s the Fat Beagle? Meds ok?

254 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:45:17am

re: #232 Lincolntf

“Not POTUS material”? She’s over the age of 35 and a natural-born citizen. That’s all she needs. Now she might not be the MSM version of a POTUS, but they picked a shady character who was hustling deals on the South Side of Chicago and made him into POTUS material, so I don’t think there is any real standard for who has and who hasn’t the right stuff.


I’m a right of center Independent. I voted for McCain and Palin. I was OK with the old guy, less comfortable with Palin, but totally against Obama. That’s why I voted the way I did. If she ever runs against Obama in 2012, she will lose handily. If the Repubs feel Obama is unbeatable in 2012 and need a sacrificial lamb, they can nominate Palin. I might even vote for her out of sympathy, but she will lose.

255 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:45:19am

re: #242 nyc redneck

has sarah actually even said she is running for any office?
my understanding is she just wants to get involved in steering our country away from the direction o is taking us, at a million miles an hour straight toward the edge of the cliff.

She plans on giving speeches instead of dying on an ice floe.

256 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:45:21am

re: #182 reine.de.tout

OK, well, I haven’t seen anyone here say they are a fan of Biden, so your point isn’t clear.

I think it is a mistake for anybody to be so arrogant as to believe they are perfect as is, and do not need any further exposure to a wider range of experience. Acknowledging that is not disrespectful to Palin.

* * * *
Biden’s got the “experience” Palin lacks. Biden says he has a high IQ!

I think Vice President Biden is a total embarassment, and I think Palin would have been better as VIce President, much like underappreciated unsophisticated Harry Truman the “haberdasher” from Missouri was a fine leader.

257 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:45:22am

re: #251 Baelzar

You guys are all class. The bet stands, and so far there’s one taker.

Your a condescending twit.
Melt down and get it over with!

258 rightside  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:45:34am

re: #248 debutaunt

I couldn’t believe it either. The incredibly horrendous attacks on her family… Trig… As much as I dislike the one for his politics, I think nothing bad about his children.

259 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:45:38am

re: #247 BigPapa

Thanks for demonstrating why.

My pleasure, sir……….

260 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:45:50am

re: #242 nyc redneck

has sarah actually even said she is running for any office?
my understanding is she just wants to get involved in steering our country away from the direction o is taking us, at a million miles an hour straight toward the edge of the cliff.

I don’t think she has, but it’s early yet.
This involvement may be her way of “testing the waters” to see if she could run for an office.

261 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:46:04am

re: #251 Baelzar

You don’t fit in. Take a hike.

262 gatorbait  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:46:31am

A woman of valor, who can find, for her price is above rubies…

263 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:46:35am

re: #256 alegrias

* * * *
Biden’s got the “experience” Palin lacks. Biden says he has a high IQ!

I think Vice President Biden is a total embarassment, and I think Palin would have been better as VIce President, much like underappreciated unsophisticated Harry Truman the “haberdasher” from Missouri was a fine leader.

No one has disagreed with your assessment of Biden.
No one.

264 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:46:46am

re: #246 Sharmuta

We are the ones who need to deal with misogyny in our culture. It’s not going to get better if we ignore it, if we think it’s an issue for others to solve, or if we deny it’s a problem. Stopping misogyny starts with individuals like you and me.

Fair enough Sharm, you’re right. However, she has the bully pulpit now. I hope she uses it wisely but passionately to make the point you are making now.

265 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:47:20am

re: #253 Miss Trixie

{Miss Trixie}
Hope today finds you well…

266 Miss Trixie  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:48:01am

wahabi - Forget to mention my newish avatar. :D See the text. :D

267 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:48:04am

re: #251 Baelzar

You guys are all class. The bet stands, and so far there’s one taker.

keep the up condescending tone and I, being the “one’ will retract it just to spite you

268 LatinGent  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:48:10am

re: #251 Baelzar

You guys are all class. The bet stands, and so far there’s one taker.

Better to be all class than complete ass.

269 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:48:45am

re: #234 wahabicorridor

Oh, I almost forgot! Didja all know that Sarah is really a racist? Oh, yeah, Frank Rich of the NYT is here to explain it to us.

Thanks, Frank, now we understand everything………..

he is one devious grasping girly man.
and he looks down on most of america.

270 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:49:13am

re: #251 Baelzar

You guys are all class.

More passive aggressive sarcasm. If you had any class or wisdom you’d stop, bow out, change the tact or subject, or just.. quit doing what you’re doing. You probably won’t, so please go away.

271 JarHeadLifer  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:49:24am

re: #28 jaunte

Victor Davis Hanson thinks she needs a little more wilderness time:

How long until VDH is labeled a scum-sucking, effete Northern California elitist who wouldn’t know a conservative if it hit him in the ass? Probably just another Democrat shilling RINO, and other some such nonsense.

The reflexive defense of all things critical to Palin is going to be the death of the party.

272 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:49:28am

re: #253 Miss Trixie

How’s the Fat Beagle? Meds ok?

Yeah, she’s off the antibiotic now, started the steroid on Monday. We’re in the process of changing her diet. I was concerned about the behavior changes that could be caused by the steroid (she had a script for one some years ago that threw her into a depression), so the vet took that into account when she decided which one to use. So far, she’s doing beautifully.

273 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:49:33am

re: #243 wahabicorridor

I avoid making long-term political predictions myself, but I would be interested in hearing the reason(s) for yours.


She is tainted to the point where she is a laughing stock to many Americans. This is not entirely her own fault. She was treated horribly and was the victim of the most unfair press treatment in my lifetime. But once you become the object of such ridicule, many millions of uninformed voters will not take her seriously, even though they should. As I said, I see her as the victim of unfair treatment, but I think it’s too much to overcome.

274 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:49:54am

re: #264 BigPapa

Fair enough Sharm, you’re right. However, she has the bully pulpit now. I hope she uses it wisely but passionately to make the point you are making now.

I would like to think she’ll take the issue on, but so far I’ve seen very few people discuss the misogyny of the election and what it means culturally. The issue isn’t what woman will confront the cultural misogyny, the issue- will we confront it?

275 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:50:04am

re: #205 wahabicorridor

I don’t think ‘comfortable enough’ has anything to do with it. He’s just a white trash punk that the Palin family fortunately avoided bringing on board. As for ‘making money’ Palin herself has been upfront about it.

* * * *
Hi, Ms. Corridor!

Agree totally—Palin didn’t have the legal education to ambulance chase like John Edwards did as a slick trial attorney channelling drowning babies, to make bazillions.

Edwards the Vice President candidate was smart enough to keep his Two Americas separate, with Elizabeth back East covering for John Edwards’ impregnating white trash on the West Coast.

John Edwards, another super qualified candidate for high office! NOT.

276 snowcrash  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:50:07am

My small but immediate prediction is that Palin will be down in TX speech giving/fund raising for Rick Perry. The race will be heavily focused on branding Kay Bailey Hutchinson as Kay “Bailout” Hutchinson and energizing the tea party type crowd.

277 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:50:14am

re: #255 debutaunt

She plans on giving speeches instead of dying on an ice floe.

BINGO, that is exactly right.

278 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:50:45am

re: #271 JarHeadLifer

How long until VDH is labeled a scum-sucking, effete Northern California elitist who wouldn’t know a conservative if it hit him in the ass? Probably just another Democrat shilling RINO, and other some such nonsense.

The reflexive defense of all things critical to Palin is going to be the death of the party.

I loves me some VDH.

279 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:51:46am

re: #259 wahabicorridor

My pleasure, sir……….

I can only make it half way through a Frank Rich column. Thanks for doing the heavy lifting and proving I would be wasting my time by reading the whole thing. It’s Kos Kids reality under the veneer of refined intellectualism.

280 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:52:00am

re: #266 Miss Trixie


awwwwww

You should put that up on ihasahotdog

281 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:52:02am

re: #273 _RememberTonyC

She is tainted to the point where she is a laughing stock to many Americans. This is not entirely her own fault. She was treated horribly and was the victim of the most unfair press treatment in my lifetime. But once you become the object of such ridicule, many millions of uninformed voters will not take her seriously, even though they should. As I said, I see her as the victim of unfair treatment, but I think it’s too much to overcome.

Was Reagan tainted as a lame brain actor?

282 Miss Trixie  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:53:09am

re: #257 DEZes

Your a condescending twit.
Melt down and get it over with!

Oooooh! I wanna see my first “Flounce-off”! :D

283 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:53:52am

re: #271 JarHeadLifer

How long until VDH is labeled a scum-sucking, effete Northern California elitist who wouldn’t know a conservative if it hit him in the ass?

Hopefully not here. He’s an Greybeard to me, along with Krauthammer. You attack VDH you better have your ducks in a row.

284 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:54:00am

re: #282 Miss Trixie

Oooooh! I wanna see my first “Flounce-off”! :D

Grab a wet-suit. ;)

285 VegasRick  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:54:09am

re: #217 DEZes

Should we bow to your greatness now?

I’ll wait.
/

286 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:54:32am

re: #273 _RememberTonyC

but I think it’s too much to overcome.

You may be right - but don’t forget Nixon.

287 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:54:37am

The other misogynistic aspect I see in this is people on the right all too willing to give Mrs. Palin the thumbs up in the hope it will enrich or empower them. I really hope she has advisors she trusts- and that they’re not just trying to get a meal ticket.

288 zombie  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:55:12am

This is what happens when the government takes over health care, and then liberals take over government:

NHS recommends pupils have an ‘orgasm a day’ to reduce risk of heart attack and stroke

The NHS is telling pupils they have a ‘right’ to an enjoyable sex life in a leaflet being sent to schools.

It encourages them to consider an ‘orgasm a day’ as a way reduce the risk of heart attacks and stroke.

And if they can’t get sex, the leaflet says children should consider masturbation.

The advice appears in guidance circulated to parents, teachers and youth workers. It says experts have for too long concentrated on the need for ‘safe sex’ and loving relationships - while ignoring the main reason people have sex, for enjoyment.

But family groups condemned the guidance last night, saying it would encourage children to have underage sex and could lead to rising rates of sexually-transmitted diseases.

Around 40,000 teenage girls fall pregnant every year in the UK - the highest level in western Europe. More than half end up in abortion.

The leaflet has come to light just a week after it emerged that a £6million initiative to reduce teenage pregnancies more than doubled the number of girls conceiving.

The Government-backed scheme tried to persuade teenage girls not to get pregnant by handing out condoms and teaching them about sex. But a study in the British Medical Journal found girls on the scheme were ‘significantly’ more likely to fall pregnant than other girls.

So, you’ve got Sarah Palin at one end advocating pre-marital abstinence, and the National Health Service at the other end telling school kids they need to masturbate as often as possible when they can’t find a partner for loveless sex.

Discuss.

289 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:55:30am

re: #275 alegrias

HOLA! I have something for you on this - be right back!

290 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:55:45am

re: #251 Baelzar

You guys are all class. The bet stands, and so far there’s one taker.

Let’s start with your insult to lizards….
Then we will talk about class….
Did you really think you could just trash talk and walk away?
Here is your chance to redeem yourself.What have you got baby lizard?

291 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:55:51am

re: #198 Desert Dog

We’ll our beloved President is the BEST the Dems could muster, so what’s the difference? Obama is polished and educated, but I submit he is more destructive and harmful to the USA than Sarah Palin ever could be. His worldview is wrong, his political policies are wrong, the direction he is taking the country is wrong.

* * * *
You said it best!

The bad news is, Pres. Obama is staying in politics until 2012 at least.
As Jimmy Carter said about himself, Why NOT the Best?
It’s working so well. NOT.

292 Desert Dog  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:55:51am

The Mother of All Honey-Do Lists beckons me. Mrs. Desert Dog thinks that idle hands are tool of the devil, I guess….either that or she does not want me to sit on here all day long typing sarcastic posts and posting funny pictures. Have fun, see you later…maybe….if I’m still alive.

293 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:56:26am

re: #288 zombie

This is what happens when the government takes over health care, and then liberals take over government:

NHS recommends pupils have an ‘orgasm a day’ to reduce risk of heart attack and stroke

So, you’ve got Sarah Palin at one end advocating pre-marital abstinence, and the National Health Service at the other end telling school kids they need to masturbate as often as possible when they can’t find a partner for loveless sex.

Discuss.

Wasn’t that Jocelyn Elders’ recommendation?

294 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:57:00am

Another bizarro Palin-analysis from the New York Times regarding Palin this time from Judith Warner:

This simmering resentment is common and pervasive in our culture right now. The idea that women with a “major education” think they’re better than everyone else, have a great sense of entitlement, feel they deserve special treatment, and are too out of touch with the lives of “normal” women to have a legitimate point of view, is a 21st-century version of the long-held belief that education makes women uppity and leads them to forget their rightful place. It’s precisely the kind of thinking that has fueled Sarah Palin’s unlikely — and continued — ability to pass herself off as the consummately “real” American woman. (And it is what has made it possible for her supporters to discredit other women’s criticism of her as elitist cat fighting.)

and

This is why Palin — in her down-home aw-shucks posturing — is the 21st-century face of the backlash against women’s progress.

Cached link to article.

295 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:57:03am

re: #281 debutaunt

Was Reagan tainted as a lame brain actor?

he was actually denigrated as a dumb “B” actor. lol.
didn’t slow him down a bit.

296 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:57:19am

re: #288 zombie

They’ve come quite a way from “An apple a day”.

Yeah, there’s one in there. Somebody hit that softball.

297 zombie  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:57:37am

re: #293 Alouette

Wasn’t that Jocelyn Elders’ recommendation?

Could be. Don’t remember. (I was too busy having orgasm after orgasm to recall that era clearly.)

298 poteen  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:57:42am

re: #239 rightside

Thats politics. Lies and innuendo. Goes with the territory. Men and women.
The attacks on Palin and Clinton were more about standard political themes (i.e. views, experience, character) than being a woman.(with the exception of the attacks on Palins children’s problems, which were just plain asshole, not misogynistic). Not like”“/ weak and unstable”“//women in politics 20 yrs. ago

299 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:58:08am

re: #287 Sharmuta

The other misogynistic aspect I see in this is people on the right all too willing to give Mrs. Palin the thumbs up in the hope it will enrich or empower them. I really hope she has advisors she trusts- and that they’re not just trying to get a meal ticket.

So , if people are against a Palin, it’s because they are misogynistic, but if people are FOR Palin, it’s just because shes a woman and will assuage their “guilt” at being misogynists!

300 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:58:09am

re: #281 debutaunt

Was Reagan tainted as a lame brain actor?


funny you should mention Reagan … I liked him a lot. Go to Victor Davis Hanson’s web site and read his piece from a few days ago about Palin and how she ought to take a page out of Ronnie’s playbook. You’ll like it.

301 Miss Trixie  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:58:21am

{Hooooooooooooooooosier} *mwah*

Glad to see you today. I’m being a lazy bum sitting here instead of pushing around my mower in the courtyard. :D

wahabi - I think I’ll do that, thanks for the link, luv. That’s good news for the FB and speaking of steroids, I’m keeping a close eye on Lil Miss, waiting for her allergies to manifest themselves and I’ve got steroids on hand. L*rd, please be gentle on her this year - she suffers so. Amen.

302 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:58:30am

re: #296 SasquatchOnSteroids

They’ve come quite a way from “An apple a day”.

Yeah, there’s one in there. Somebody hit that softball.

Went from apples to cookies. ;)

303 Lincolntf  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:59:17am

re: #294 Gus 802

We all know that the only “real” American women are living in Manhattan and discussing what to wear to the next NARAL fund-raising gala.

304 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:59:18am

re: #302 DEZes

Went from apples to cookies. ;)

Ahhh, there was 2 in there.
Touche.

305 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:59:29am

re: #274 Sharmuta

We as a culture? I’m not so confident. I can do my part and call it as I see it, as can you.

306 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 11:59:32am

re: #295 nyc redneck

he was actually denigrated as a dumb “B” actor. lol.
didn’t slow him down a bit.

I think he went out and gave a lot of speeches, like Palin will like do.

307 VegasRick  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:00:31pm

re: #290 HoosierHoops

Let’s start with your insult to lizards….
Then we will talk about class….
Did you really think you could just trash talk and walk away?
Here is your chance to redeem yourself.What have you got baby lizard?

Where did it go?

308 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:00:32pm

re: #303 Lincolntf

We all know that the only “real” American women are living in Manhattan and discussing what to wear to the next NARAL fund-raising gala.

Exactly. One could say:

“Judith Warner, meet the Scotsman.”

309 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:00:33pm

re: #286 wahabicorridor

You may be right - but don’t forget Nixon.


Nixon was hated, but had 20+ years of national political experience before the 1968 election. He was a high profile anti Communist warrior back in the 40s and 50s. He had gravitas. Palin still does not.

310 shiplord kirel  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:00:37pm

re: #294 Gus 802

Another bizarro Palin-analysis from the New York Times regarding Palin this time from Judith Warner:

Cached link to article.

Holy guacamole! Leave it to Orwellian lib-scribblers to assert that a viable female presidential candidate represents a setback for “women’s progress.”
“War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.”

311 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:00:40pm

re: #300 _RememberTonyC

funny you should mention Reagan … I liked him a lot. Go to Victor Davis Hanson’s web site and read his piece from a few days ago about Palin and how she ought to take a page out of Ronnie’s playbook. You’ll like it.

i think that is what she is planning on doing. giving speeches, reaching out to people, getting the message out there, galvanizing the base.

312 LatinGent  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:00:44pm

Its been a slice. Time to ride the bikeand raise hell with my friends! (read mow the lawn and trim the hedges).

313 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:00:48pm

re: #300 _RememberTonyC

funny you should mention Reagan … I liked him a lot. Go to Victor Davis Hanson’s web site and read his piece from a few days ago about Palin and how she ought to take a page out of Ronnie’s playbook. You’ll like it.

Thanks, I already did.

314 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:00:55pm

re: #289 wahabicorridor

HOLA! I have something for you on this - be right back!

got it.

The Times, for example, which found the alleged transgressions of an actual presidential candidate (John Edwards) unworthy of investigation, managed to find room for three Page One stories touching on the sex life of a vice presidential candidate’s daughter.

Sarah ‘Barracuda’ Palin and the Piranhas of the Press

I bookmarked this piece because it documents a long - if not exhaustive - incidents of media malice, some of which I was unaware of. This for instance:

The most egregious example was posted on Daily Kos on Sept. 12, 2008 by Paul Lewis Hackett III, a trial lawyer and U.S. Marine Corps veteran of Iraq, who ran in 2005 for a vacant seat in the House from Ohio’s second congressional district, losing narrowly in a district President Bush had carried easily just a year earlier.
Fretting that the Obama campaign was going to lose Ohio to McCain, Hackett proposed his own solution: A series of savage attacks on the GOP ticket focusing on Sarah Palin and her family. Here is what he wrote:

The message (would be) simple and the professionals can refine it but essentially it should contain these elements: Sarah Palin? Can’t keep her solemn oath of devotion to her husband and had sex with his employee. Sarah Palin? Accidentally got pregnant at age 43 and the tax payers of Alaska have to pay for the care of her disabled child. Sarah Palin? Unable to teach her 16 year old daughter right from wrong and now another teenager is pregnant. Sarah Palin? Can you trust Sarah Palin and her values with America’s future?

315 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:01:04pm

re: #302 DEZes

Went from apples to cookies. ;)

How’s yer head. Lose your cookies on anybody’s furniture last night ?

/

316 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:01:09pm

re: #287 Sharmuta

The other misogynistic aspect I see in this is people on the right all too willing to give Mrs. Palin the thumbs up in the hope it will enrich or empower them. I really hope she has advisors she trusts- and that they’re not just trying to get a meal ticket.

I think it’s an aspect of fame and/or power most of us don’t think about- how many people suck up to you and tell you they are your friends when all they really want to do is use you to further their own interests. These people follow fame and power. Shameless self-promoters- and they’ll work their magic to “help” their meal ticket.

/You know who your friends are

317 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:01:35pm

re: #303 Lincolntf

We all know that the only “real” American women are living in Manhattan and discussing what to wear to the next NARAL fund-raising gala.

i beg your pardon, sir.

:D

318 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:02:03pm

re: #307 VegasRick

Where did it go?

I am not sure, but I wanted to give it directions.

319 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:02:05pm

re: #306 debutaunt

I think he went out and gave a lot of speeches, like Palin will like do.

PIMF likely

320 Gang of One  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:02:09pm

re: #251 Baelzar

You guys are all class.

Look who’s talking. You’re really looking to make friends here, I see.

321 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:02:44pm

re: #301 Miss Trixie

{Hooooooooooooooooosier} *mwah*

Glad to see you today. I’m being a lazy bum sitting here instead of pushing around my mower in the courtyard. :D

wahabi - I think I’ll do that, thanks for the link, luv. That’s good news for the FB and speaking of steroids, I’m keeping a close eye on Lil Miss, waiting for her allergies to manifest themselves and I’ve got steroids on hand. L*rd, please be gentle on her this year - she suffers so. Amen.

My friend! IRL is racing up your way in Toronto…Last lap! I need to jump in the swimming pool and sober up in 5 minutes…Dario wins!
It is always nice seeing you here….Always sister!
/too much beer …LOL

322 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:03:08pm

re: #315 SasquatchOnSteroids

How’s yer head. Lose your cookies on anybody’s furniture last night ?

/

Head was sore this morning.
I didnt get any cookies though. ;)

323 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:03:13pm

This is damn funny….
Auto-Tune The News Takes On Bachmann, Boehner (VIDEO)

Youtube Video
324 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:03:37pm

re: #234 wahabicorridor

Oh, I almost forgot! Didja all know that Sarah is really a racist? Oh, yeah, Frank Rich of the NYT is here to explain it to us.

Thanks, Frank, now we understand everything………..

* * * *
Frank Rich hates Native American Alaskans! Sarah Palin’s husband Todd is part something or other (Inuit?).

Goodbye Gasbag Rich and take your lower 48-centric world view (Weltanschauung) with you.

325 Gang of One  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:04:34pm

re: #262 gatorbait

A woman of valor, who can find, for her price is above rubies…

Ayshes Chayil?

326 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:04:38pm

re: #310 shiplord kirel

Holy guacamole! Leave it to Orwellian lib-scribblers to assert that a viable female presidential candidate represents a setback for “women’s progress.”
“War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.”

Amazing isn’t it? I read that article several days ago. The visceral reaction to Palin is overwhelming from the left especially amongst the self-described liberal feminists. They will do everything possible to create a conclusion even if it means working backwards.

327 rightymouse  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:05:19pm

re: #287 Sharmuta

The other misogynistic aspect I see in this is people on the right all too willing to give Mrs. Palin the thumbs up in the hope it will enrich or empower them. I really hope she has advisors she trusts- and that they’re not just trying to get a meal ticket.

Most savvy people can tell the difference between sycophancy and sincere support.

328 rightside  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:05:27pm

re: #298 poteen

Anything political i.e. positions on policy, etc., is fair game. I don’t believe everyone was a misogynist, but there was a good bit of it, For both shrillary and Sarah.

329 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:05:39pm

re: #316 Sharmuta

re: #316 Sharmuta

I think it’s an aspect of fame and/or power most of us don’t think about- how many people suck up to you and tell you they are your friends when all they really want to do is use you to further their own interests. These people follow fame and power. Shameless self-promoters- and they’ll work their magic to “help” their meal ticket.

/You know who your friends are

So wouldn’t that be an aspect of taking advantage of the situation or following the leader rather than misogyny?

330 shiplord kirel  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:05:40pm

Setting aside the debate about her qualifications and experience, Palin could well have hit on the winning strategy by setting up a direct and continuous confrontation with the establishment media and the extended media culture.

I would speculate that she got this idea by watching McCain’s miserable efforts to appease the media last year, demonstrating once and for all that they are the opposition itself and not simply a mouthpiece for the opposition.

331 theheat  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:06:10pm

Compared to the likes of Ted Stevens and Larry Craig, who people tried to run out of office on rails, Palin probably thought she’d get out while the getting was good. While she opened herself up to criticism to being a thin-skinned quitter, she also freed herself to make a whole lot of money with her pending book deals and speaking tours.

She could go on to be the next female Rush Limbaugh, and make even more heaps of money, or pursue the political path as far as she wants to take it. She’s rallied the socons with her Folksy McFargospeak, and she’s interested some of the middle with her views on reducing government, domestic energy, and anti-terrorism. If she can weather all the criticism for up-and-leaving her post as governor (heck, at least it wasn’t for an illicit affair in another country), not drag women’s rights back into the dark ages, and keep the Fundie-ness under her hat, she can probably do well.

It’s a tall order to fill, keeping all these checks and balances, enough to sway lefties and those in the center. Personally, I don’t think she’ll be able to control her gaffes any better than Biden, and it will be her downfall, especially if she behaves like a wet hen at every little dig and criticism she’ll face down the road. The media is dying to run over the top of her, and I believe she’ll give them plenty of ammunition.

332 VegasRick  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:06:23pm

re: #323 Killgore Trout

This is damn funny….
Auto-Tune The News Takes On Bachmann, Boehner (VIDEO)



Stupid.

333 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:06:39pm

re: #305 BigPapa

We as a culture? I’m not so confident. I can do my part and call it as I see it, as can you.

Yeah- we as a culture. It starts somewhere. Women didn’t always have rights to property or suffrage. It starts somewhere, and grows. Sadly- the so-called feminist movement undermined real feminism and respect for women, but we don’t need them. You and I can lead by example and discuss this issue with others.

Just the other night, a number of Lizards and I had a nice conversation on a thread about feminism and female misogyny. It was nice for me, because I had others who were sympathetic about the issue, but one thing I said was I didn’t think female misogyny was going to get any better until women start to confront just how misogynistic we ourselves can be. Once women collectively decide something needs to change- you know it’s going to happen. We don’t admit this about ourselves- so it’s not going to change at this time.

334 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:07:30pm

re: #329 solomonpanting

re: #316 Sharmuta

So wouldn’t that be an aspect of taking advantage of the situation or following the leader rather than misogyny?

Taking advantage of a woman wouldn’t be misogynistic?

335 poteen  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:07:30pm

re: #287 Sharmuta

The other misogynistic aspect I see in this is people on the right all too willing to give Mrs. Palin the thumbs up in the hope it will enrich or empower them. I really hope she has advisors she trusts- and that they’re not just trying to get a meal ticket.

So what. If she wins an election I for one will happily say “Thats my girl, now go do what I helped elect you to do”. There is nothing remotely misogynistic in that. Quite the opposite. She’s gonna take some shots but if she handles it well being a woman will work in her favor

336 rightside  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:07:39pm

re: #333 Sharmuta

lol, sometimes it’s just cattiness!

337 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:08:00pm

re: #324 alegrias

Sarah Palin’s husband Todd is part something or other (Inuit?).

ooooo, I fogot about that! Lemme go resarch it and I’ll put it in my ammo box…………..

338 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:08:11pm

Some moonbat left a screechy diatribe on my blog because I don’t think that killing the geese who infest the LGA and JFK flight paths is a “Holocaust”

339 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:08:20pm

re: #334 Sharmuta

Taking advantage of a woman wouldn’t be misogynistic?

Would taking advantage of a man not be the case as well?

340 tradewind  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:08:34pm

O/T : Something you’ll never see in the highlight clips from TOTUS’ Ghana trip:
[Link: www.breitbart.tv…]

341 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:09:13pm

re: #338 Alouette

Some moonbat left a screechy diatribe on my blog because I don’t think that killing the geese who infest the LGA and JFK flight paths is a “Holocaust”

A geesetrocity!

342 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:09:18pm

re: #294 Gus 802

That is bizarre. Woman leaves kids in mall, turns into victim of misogyny. Gimme a break. I wonder what the bizzaro columnist thinks about Sarah Palin: is a ‘woman’s place’ in the progressive mindset? Hmmm…..

343 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:09:20pm

re: #338 Alouette

Some moonbat left a screechy diatribe on my blog because I don’t think that killing the geese who infest the LGA and JFK flight paths is a “Holocaust”

Tell the troll to go flock itself.

344 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:09:26pm

re: #339 solomonpanting

I think taking advantage of a person, regardless of gender, is wrong.

345 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:09:51pm

re: #332 VegasRick

I think it’s pretty clever. They need a better auto tuner though.

346 Baelzar  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:10:41pm

I suppose I could see how some people would have a melt down, or even why it’s expected here; you Palin supporters are all talk and insults. Zero conviction.

I truly hope the Republican party doesn’t believe as you do, but I’m afraid after listening to Rush, Hannity, Levin and Wilkow…I think the GOP hasn’t learned anything. I think their idea of conservatism, “real conservatism,” involves too much spending, too much anti-abortion, too much War on Drugs, too much of the issues that keep marginalizing them.

Which is a shame, because Obama is the worst thing that’s ever happened to this country.

347 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:11:19pm

re: #338 Alouette

Some moonbat left a screechy diatribe on my blog because I don’t think that killing the geese who infest the LGA and JFK flight paths is a “Holocaust”

This makes no sense whatsoever:

The public needs to realize that the economic infrastructure of government wildlife management actually perpetuates human-wildlife conflicts while simultaneously encouraging a bias that favors killing as a form of problem solving.

Where is this “economic infrastructure of government wildlife management”?

She would obviously prefer that humans be killed, rather than the geese.

348 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:11:30pm

re: #271 JarHeadLifer

How long until VDH is labeled a scum-sucking, effete Northern California elitist who wouldn’t know a conservative if it hit him in the ass? Probably just another Democrat shilling RINO, and other some such nonsense.

The reflexive defense of all things critical to Palin is going to be the death of the party.

* * * * *
Victor Davis Hanson is a fine man and private citizen, BUT he’s not in the political arena so there’s no comparison to Palin who is (as of today) still a sitting governor and former mayor and former Republican vice presidential candidate.

It’s fine to be a commentator & historian but VDH is not a political player as such.

349 Lincolntf  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:11:49pm

re: #346 Baelzar

Oh, please teach us how to be Real Conservatives, Lord Baelzar…

350 SixDegrees  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:11:59pm

re: #293 Alouette

Wasn’t that Jocelyn Elders’ recommendation?

Elders thought they needed to teach the kids how to masturbate.

“Excellent technique, Johnny! Come up to the front of the room and show the rest of the class!”

351 solomonpanting  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:12:06pm

re: #344 Sharmuta

I think taking advantage of a person, regardless of gender, is wrong.

As I do. So if an agent takes advantage his/her male client is it misandry?

352 rightymouse  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:13:44pm

re: #346 Baelzar

I suppose I could see how some people would have a melt down, or even why it’s expected here; you Palin supporters are all talk and insults. Zero conviction.

I truly hope the Republican party doesn’t believe as you do, but I’m afraid after listening to Rush, Hannity, Levin and Wilkow…I think the GOP hasn’t learned anything. I think their idea of conservatism, “real conservatism,” involves too much spending, too much anti-abortion, too much War on Drugs, too much of the issues that keep marginalizing them.

Which is a shame, because Obama is the worst thing that’s ever happened to this country.

You ain’t here for thoughtful/civilized debate/conversation, are ya?

353 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:14:09pm

re: #346 Baelzar

What a pompous ass. Tell you what, instead of me MATVCHING your $100 charitable offer to Charles, go out with a bang. Get yourself banned and i’ll send my $100 PLUS your $100!

NOW , who’s putting their money where their mouths are !

354 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:14:10pm

re: #342 BigPapa

That is bizarre. Woman leaves kids in mall, turns into victim of misogyny. Gimme a break. I wonder what the bizzaro columnist thinks about Sarah Palin: is a ‘woman’s place’ in the progressive mindset? Hmmm…..

It almost read like a conspiracy theory. OK, not almost.

Again, she’s working backwards. People of all educational backgrounds can face child endangerment charges. Now I’m beginning to winder. Is Judith Warner saying that Bridget Kevane should not have faced those charges merely because she was “educated?”

Of course, that would be a form of elitism and I doubt that Judith Warner is an academic elitist (pseudo or otherwise). //

355 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:14:18pm

re: #324 alegrias

Todd is part something or other (Inuit?).

His maternal grandmother, Helena Andree is 1/2 Yup ‘ik

356 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:14:25pm

re: #346 Baelzar

I suppose I could see how some people would have a melt down, or even why it’s expected here; you Palin supporters are all talk and insults. Zero conviction.

I truly hope the Republican party doesn’t believe as you do, but I’m afraid after listening to Rush, Hannity, Levin and Wilkow…I think the GOP hasn’t learned anything. I think their idea of conservatism, “real conservatism,” involves too much spending, too much anti-abortion, too much War on Drugs, too much of the issues that keep marginalizing them.

Which is a shame, because Obama is the worst thing that’s ever happened to this country.

I’m not sure you’ve been reading here regularly; I recall many discussions about the need to get rid of an overly-social-conservative agenda that may be marginalizing the Republicans.

Do you have an clue how tiresome your belligerent and insulting tone is?

357 Baelzar  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:14:30pm

re: #349 Lincolntf

Oh, please teach us how to be Real Conservatives, Lord Baelzar…

The polls will teach you. Again.

358 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:14:31pm

re: #347 reine.de.tout

Where is this “economic infrastructure of government wildlife management”?

She would obviously prefer that humans be killed, rather than the geese.

She thinks people should sit down and negotiate with the geese.

359 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:14:45pm

re: #351 solomonpanting

As I do. So if an agent takes advantage his/her male client is it misandry?

We don’t have a cultural misandry issue- so I would say not it’s not, but if the people involved were personally male sexists- then I would say yes.

360 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:15:21pm

re: #346 Baelzar

The first thing you posted in this thread was full of insults.
And now you wanna play the victim.
You have zero credibility with that childish game.
Heres a rope, Mandy will be so kind as to give you instructions of how to go piss up it.

361 VegasRick  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:15:27pm

re: #346 Baelzar

I suppose I could see how some people would have a melt down, or even why it’s expected here; you Palin supporters are all talk and insults. Zero conviction.

I truly hope the Republican party doesn’t believe as you do, but I’m afraid after listening to Rush, Hannity, Levin and Wilkow…I think the GOP hasn’t learned anything. I think their idea of conservatism, “real conservatism,” involves too much spending, too much anti-abortion, too much War on Drugs, too much of the issues that keep marginalizing them.

Which is a shame, because Obama is the worst thing that’s ever happened to this country.

Please, oh great one, do tell who should be speaking for the party.

362 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:15:46pm

re: #358 Alouette

She thinks people should sit down and negotiate with the geese.

Oh, well, that really makes sense!
Not.

363 SixDegrees  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:15:49pm

re: #347 reine.de.tout

Where is this “economic infrastructure of government wildlife management”?

She would obviously prefer that humans be killed, rather than the geese.

Send the geese to go live in her yard. I guarantee, in less than a week of slipping and sliding through their foul droppings she will be calling for more than a Goose Holocaust; she’ll be taking up arms herself and bringing down Goosey Armageddon on them.

364 VegasRick  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:16:16pm

re: #353 sattv4u2

What a pompous ass. Tell you what, instead of me MATVCHING your $100 charitable offer to Charles, go out with a bang. Get yourself banned and i’ll send my $100 PLUS your $100!

NOW , who’s putting their money where their mouths are !

I’m in for $100 as well.

365 Truck Monkey  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:16:38pm

re: #358 Alouette

She thinks people should sit down and negotiate with the geese.

The geese should ‘unclench’.

366 poteen  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:16:48pm

re: #328 rightside

Anything political i.e. positions on policy, etc., is fair game. I don’t believe everyone was a misogynist, but there was a good bit of it, For both shrillary and Sarah.

In a perfect world yes. But down through American history that hasn’t been the case. It would be more misogynistic to say anyone should be immune because they’re women

367 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:17:17pm

re: #346 Baelzar

If you value your participation here, you’d go away for a while or just lurk, sneak back in the back door unnoticed, and start over again laying off the puerile ego.

That’s advice, if you choose to take it that way.

368 NoWhereAlaska  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:17:20pm

re: #346 Baelzar

I truly hope the Republican party doesn’t believe as you do,

It is pretty obvious the GOP doesn’t believe in much. They vacilate between accomidatin, and tilting at windmills. Very little of what they do is in sync with what the Socon or Libertarian base want. For me it is time for a party be it Whig, Amer Conservative, or Constitutional. If we could ever get a party that stood by a set of principles instead of ‘shit-sandwich’ choice at election time we might get the government this country needs.

369 theheat  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:17:21pm

re: #363 SixDegrees

I’m a vegetarian, and I have dreams of blasting the messy honking creatures from my habitat.

370 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:17:54pm

re: #363 SixDegrees

Send the geese to go live in her yard. I guarantee, in less than a week of slipping and sliding through their foul droppings she will be calling for more than a Goose Holocaust; she’ll be taking up arms herself and bringing down Goosey Armageddon on them.

What is so very interesting about these people is that they never volunteer to actually do something concrete, that might interfere with her life. It’s all “somebody else” has to do something.

371 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:18:08pm

re: #314 wahabicorridor

** * * *
Thank you for those clips, Ms. Corridor.

Wow, Paul Lewis Hackett the ex Marine, now democrat hack, how the mighty can fall so low, attacking Sarah Palin.

Slime bucket Hackett’s obviously qualified for higher democrat office.

372 SixDegrees  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:18:12pm

re: #365 Truck Monkey

The geese should ‘unclench’.

Believe me, geese are permanently unclenched. There is zero impedance anywhere in them; it’s a short, quick trip from ingested grass to steaming, slippery pile.

373 poteen  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:18:21pm

re: #344 Sharmuta

True. But I don’t want a president who CAN be taken advantage of.

374 Kronocide  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:18:28pm

re: #365 Truck Monkey

The geese should ‘unclench’.

Luckily that pilot was unflappable after the midflight pate incident.

375 SixDegrees  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:19:14pm

re: #369 theheat

I’m a vegetarian, and I have dreams of blasting the messy honking creatures from my habitat.

They are filthy, disgusting creatures with no redeeming social values.

376 tradewind  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:19:20pm

re: #168 Charles

That’s one way to look at it, Charles, but Palin would respond that by resigning now she is serving the people of Alaska by saving them untold dollars defending herself and her office against witchhunts that have proven baseless.
Handing the reins to the lt governor means that the state’s executive functions will no longer be compromised by having to respond over and over to the lawsuits.

377 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:19:20pm

re: #358 Alouette

She thinks people should sit down and negotiate with the geese.

I would do it, but I don’t speak Canadian.

//

378 rightymouse  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:19:46pm

re: #347 reine.de.tout

She would obviously prefer that humans be killed, rather than the geese.

If you ask liberals, most of them will tell you that animals are more important than human life. Human life is not part of the eco-system as far as they are concerned.

379 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:19:48pm

re: #368 NoWhereAlaska

It is pretty obvious the GOP doesn’t believe in much. They vacilate between accomidatin, and tilting at windmills. Very little of what they do is in sync with what the Socon or Libertarian base want. For me it is time for a party be it Whig, Amer Conservative, or Constitutional. If we could ever get a party that stood by a set of principles instead of ‘shit-sandwich’ choice at election time we might get the government this country needs.

First- the so-cons and libertarians in the GOP want vastly different things.

Second- the Constitution Party is run by Dominionists.

380 tradewind  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:19:59pm

re: #350 SixDegrees

She didn’t think they were capable of getting a handle on the subject all by themselves?

381 theheat  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:20:19pm

re: #375 SixDegrees

My sister tells me they taste pretty good, though.

382 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:20:30pm

re: #370 reine.de.tout

What is so very interesting about these people is that they never volunteer to actually do something concrete, that might interfere with her life. It’s all “somebody else” has to do something.

Her mission in life is to Google blogs that mention the goose problem at LGA/JFK and then post hysterical screeds calling people in favor of airport goose control “nazis”

383 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:22:03pm

re: #358 Alouette

She thinks people should sit down and negotiate with the geese.

she needs a flock of persistent raucous geese crapping on her lawn and menacing her children and pets.
that will educate the fool as to negotiation possibilities w/geese.

384 zombie  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:22:07pm

re: #323 Killgore Trout

This is damn funny….
Auto-Tune The News Takes On Bachmann, Boehner (VIDEO)


[Video]

I agree. FUnny as hell.

385 Sharmuta  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:22:15pm

re: #373 poteen

You’re right to point out that it’s a gender neutral point- both sexes will have people there to use them. I just think in some cases where the person in question is a woman- sexism can be a factor.

386 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:22:49pm

re: #338 Alouette

Some moonbat left a screechy diatribe on my blog because I don’t think that killing the geese who infest the LGA and JFK flight paths is a “Holocaust”

Godwin’s Law? Let me see, she thinks: “eradicating the geese at LGA and JFK is the Holocaust, therefore if you agree with this than you are either, a) a Nazi, or b) Hitler.”

Ad infinitum. These nutcases apply this false analogy to just about anything.

Geese are not people for one. Plus the safety of people far surpasses those of geese or other fowl.

387 poteen  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:22:59pm

re: #372 SixDegrees

Believe me, geese are permanently unclenched. There is zero impedance anywhere in them; it’s a short, quick trip from ingested grass to steaming, slippery pile.

A true entrepreneur sees a foie gras fortune.//

388 Jack Burton  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:23:03pm

re: #288 zombie

NHS recommends pupils have an ‘orgasm a day’ to reduce risk of heart attack and stroke

The risk of heart attacks or strokes to teenagers is infinitesimal I would think unless they have other serious health problems. This is just bored lefties making policy based on whatever dumb idea popped into their head that morning.

389 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:23:18pm

re: #358 Alouette

She thinks people should sit down and negotiate with the geese.

Send in Bruce Willis. ;)

390 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:23:29pm

re: #330 shiplord kirel

Setting aside the debate about her qualifications and experience, Palin could well have hit on the winning strategy by setting up a direct and continuous confrontation with the establishment media and the extended media culture.

I would speculate that she got this idea by watching McCain’s miserable efforts to appease the media last year, demonstrating once and for all that they are the opposition itself and not simply a mouthpiece for the opposition.

* * * * *
Very likely, Shiplord.

McCain’s years of palling around with media on his Straight talk Express Bus, and making “media availability” his highest priority, did not stop the same media from trying to take McCain down with fake stories alleging McCain flirted with a lobbyist, Vicki Iseman.

The New York Times, whose own Johnny Apple loved John McCain for years, tried to topple McCain as Dan Rather tried to topple Pres. Bush in 2004.

Governor Palin is smart to not waste her life as McCain did, kissing media ass and betting on the media to carry Palin’s messages.

391 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:23:38pm

re: #383 nyc redneck

she needs a flock of persistent raucous geese crapping on her lawn and menacing her children and pets.
that will educate the fool as to negotiation possibilities w/geese.

You’re not kidding!
I remember going to the zoo in New Orleans with my grandparents.
We once brought along a bag of old bread to feed the geese.
The damn geese chased us down to get the bread. It was scary.

392 SixDegrees  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:24:14pm

re: #380 tradewind

She didn’t think they were capable of getting a handle on the subject all by themselves?

Using “think” in a sentence with Jocelyn Elders as the subject - minus five points.

;-)

393 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:24:35pm

re: #378 rightymouse

If you ask liberals, most of them will tell you that animals are more important than human life. Human life is not part of the eco-system as far as they are concerned.

Yep. Life after People, gotta be their favorite show.

394 VegasRick  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:24:44pm

re: #389 DEZes

Send in Bruce Willis. ;)

I was thinking Tom Honks.

395 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:24:50pm

re: #390 alegrias

* * * * *
Very likely, Shiplord.

McCain’s years of palling around with media on his Straight talk Express Bus, and making “media availability” his highest priority, did not stop the same media from trying to take McCain down with fake stories alleging McCain flirted with a lobbyist, Vicki Iseman.

The New York Times, whose own Johnny Apple loved John McCain for years, tried to topple McCain as Dan Rather tried to topple Pres. Bush in 2004.

Governor Palin is smart to not waste her life as McCain did, kissing media ass and betting on the media to carry Palin’s messages.

the mfm is the enemy.

396 capitalist piglet  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:25:12pm

re: #326 Gus 802

Amazing isn’t it? I read that article several days ago. The visceral reaction to Palin is overwhelming from the left especially amongst the self-described liberal feminists. They will do everything possible to create a conclusion even if it means working backwards.

That’s the logic of the left for you. They hate her because they have identified her a hater. I’m surprised I haven’t seen a “KILL THE HATERS” shirt on some of these people.

397 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:25:13pm

re: #383 nyc redneck

{NYC Redneck}
I went back to the dust-up the other day and reread the posts…I was out most of the day….
Sorry… I will always have your back…You are good people..

398 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:25:22pm

re: #394 VegasRick

I was thinking Tom Honks.

LMAO!

399 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:25:32pm

re: #383 nyc redneck

she needs a flock of persistent raucous geese crapping on her lawn and menacing her children and pets.
that will educate the fool as to negotiation possibilities w/geese.

When we lived next to a golf course, a duck hatched eggs next to a golf ball and they were so cute! We got a big bag of rice and before you knew it, they were angrily pecking at our slider and left green slimy crap all over our patio and lawn.

400 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:25:49pm

re: #381 theheat

My sister tells me they taste pretty good, though.

Once you figure out how to cook them, they are SUPERB!

Especially with cranberry-pistacchio stuffing soaked in Gran Marnier.

401 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:26:40pm

re: #391 reine.de.tout

You’re not kidding!
I remember going to the zoo in New Orleans with my grandparents.
We once brought along a bag of old bread to feed the geese.
The damn geese chased us down to get the bread. It was scary.

LOL that’s how geese “negotiate.”

402 _RememberTonyC  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:27:00pm

re: #311 nyc redneck

i think that is what she is planning on doing. giving speeches, reaching out to people, getting the message out there, galvanizing the base.

it’s exactly the right thing to do

403 ArmyWife  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:27:17pm

Have we spoken about this yet?

Independent’s Day

Obama doesn’t want to look back, but Attorney General Eric Holder may probe Bush-era torture anyway.

Besides being dumb, Camp Obama may want to think long and hard about this one what with their antics related to GM and who knows what else going forward.

404 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:27:29pm

re: #355 wahabicorridor

His maternal grandmother, Helena Andree is 1/2 Yup ‘ik

* * * *
Thank you for researching that!
I’m disgusted Frank Rich the Native American dissing didact, teaches at my alma mater, George Mason University, where Karl Rove once took classes in Fairfax, Virginia.

GMU is now moonbatty, not liberal in the sense of academic freedom.

405 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:27:35pm

I once asked our local butcher why goose meat is so hard to obtain.

He explained, shochtim (kosher slaughterers) do not want to deal with geese.

1. They are mean and vicious, and it takes just as much effort to hold down a goose as it does to hold down a cow.

2. Goose carcasses are difficult to clean, feathers everywhere!

3. Americans think goose meat is greasy.

4. Turkeys are docile, yield more meat, and Americans prefer the taste.

406 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:27:42pm

re: #397 HoosierHoops

{Hoosier}
wow

407 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:28:00pm

re: #391 reine.de.tout

You’re not kidding!
I remember going to the zoo in New Orleans with my grandparents.
We once brought along a bag of old bread to feed the geese.
The damn geese chased us down to get the bread. It was scary.


Swans are TRULY dangerous - they can kill.

408 tradewind  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:28:02pm

re: #401 nyc redneck
Geese make great guard dogs.

409 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:28:52pm

re: #396 capitalist piglet

That’s the logic of the left for you. They hate her because they have identified her a hater. I’m surprised I haven’t seen a “KILL THE HATERS” shirt on some of these people.

I’m sure they’re out there amongst the Anarchist-Crunchy Liberal Sects. In fact there was something regarding Palin and some of those types in Philadelphia last year but I think that involved misogynistic profanity.

410 SixDegrees  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:28:52pm

re: #387 poteen

A true entrepreneur sees a foie gras fortune.//

re: #381 theheat

My sister tells me they taste pretty good, though.

Geese make wonderful food. The problem with the hordes of them infesting airports and suburban lawns is that they spend their entire lives chowing down on vegetation that’s been hosed down with herbicides and pesticides, or that is coated heavily with jet exhaust and deicing solution. I wouldn’t be comfortable eating one, anymore than I’d be comfortable drinking out of a ChemLawn truck.

And as much as I admire foie gras - which the same loon who provoked this thread is probably trying to get banned - the liver is a filter organ that concentrates all of the above crap into itself. I’ll get my foie gras from a regular supplier who force-feeds his stock with healthy grains through a clean, stainless steel throat funnel, thanks very much.

411 tradewind  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:29:15pm

re: #403 ArmyWife

B’rer Demorabbit… Please, don’t throw us in that briar patch.

412 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:29:29pm

re: #407 wahabicorridor

Swans are TRULY dangerous - they can kill.

They are mean as hell.

I recall that my brother finally dropped the bread he was holding, and the geese stopped chasing him to grab the bread. He was terrified.

413 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:29:54pm

re: #407 wahabicorridor

Swans are TRULY dangerous - they can kill.

Swans are nasty fuckers. They are the “mean girls” while the geese are the nerdy girls.

414 opnion  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:29:54pm

Really good movie available On Demand, Body of Lies with DiCaprio & Russel Crowe.It deals with the CIA war on Jihad.
It does not really take a politicl position, but does not make the Jihadis out to be victims, but blood thirsty monsters.

415 tradewind  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:30:36pm

re: #414 opnion

Oh, a reality show……

416 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:31:23pm

don’t worry abt. all this menacing ever expanding wild life everywhere.
i’m glad supper is out there in nature.
we might be needing it soon.

417 poteen  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:31:48pm

re: #385 Sharmuta

With some, still , as with many prejudices. But in Palin’s case it can very easily be turned to her advantage. Opponents Inside or outside the party can shoot themselves in the foot with it.

Besides, there have always been more philogynists than misogynists or the human race would have died millenia ago. :)

418 [deleted]  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:32:14pm
419 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:32:24pm

re: #416 nyc redneck

don’t worry abt. all this menacing ever expanding wild life everywhere.
i’m glad supper is out there in nature.
we might be needing it soon.

Yes, but will we know how to harvest it?
I wouldn’t, honestly.
But the Roi does, so I guess we’d be OK.

420 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:32:29pm

re: #414 opnion

Really good movie available On Demand, Body of Lies with DiCaprio & Russel Crowe.It deals with the CIA war on Jihad.
It does not really take a politicl position, but does not make the Jihadis out to be victims, but blood thirsty monsters.


If it’s out on DVD, I’ll go buy one and send it to my local CAIR office

421 yochanan  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:32:35pm

can we harvest the canukistani geese?

maybe feed them to the so called homeless

422 jacksontn  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:32:37pm

re: #414 opnion

Really good movie available On Demand, Body of Lies with DiCaprio & Russel Crowe.It deals with the CIA war on Jihad.
It does not really take a politicl position, but does not make the Jihadis out to be victims, but blood thirsty monsters.

opnion … is that on dish/direct/cable? … I am in early and it looks like rain so I am thinking about watching a few movies … lmk …

423 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:32:43pm

re: #414 opnion

Really good movie available On Demand, Body of Lies with DiCaprio & Russel Crowe.It deals with the CIA war on Jihad.
It does not really take a politicl position, but does not make the Jihadis out to be victims, but blood thirsty monsters.

* * * *
Peter Sellers had an anti-socialist movie called “I’m Alright Jack” that’s supposedly very timely.

Also Peter Sellers’ “The Mouse That Roared” is a good allegory about America.

Bye all, gonna swim now.

424 capitalist piglet  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:32:57pm

re: #180 sattv4u2

Where have/ do you see ANYONE on this blog defending Biden?

One interesting (to me, anyway) point about that.

You’re quite correct, no one here defends Biden…including the people who say they voted for him because they claim to have found Governor Palin unacceptable as a vice-presidential candidate. One would conclude, because of their vote, that Biden must have had some redeeming quality that made him preferable to her, but it’s been nothing but crickets.

Apparently Joe’s tenuous grip on reality is less a threat to the Republic than Palin’s folksy twang.

425 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:33:30pm

re: #420 sattv4u2

If it’s out on DVD, I’ll go buy one and send it to my local CAIR office

It is on DVD. ;)

426 VegasRick  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:33:44pm

re: #360 DEZes

The first thing you posted in this thread was full of insults.
And now you wanna play the victim.
You have zero credibility with that childish game.
Heres a rope, Mandy will be so kind as to give you instructions of how to go piss up it.

Where did the little asshole go?

427 opnion  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:33:58pm

re: #407 wahabicorridor

Swans are TRULY dangerous - they can kill.

When my daughter was little a swan from the retention pond at work tried to attack her. I caught him in time & laid a kick into that sucker.
He was furious. A day later I went for a run, the swan glared at me & snaked his head back & forth , but stayed away.
Nasty critters

428 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:34:00pm

This is for the geese crazies.

This is what happens when you neglect bird control at airports or bases.

24 dead in E-3 AWACs crash involving bird strike with geese.

And they’re making wildlife habitats next to airports?

429 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:34:00pm

re: #413 Alouette

Which is probably why they’ve never been domesticated for food.

430 opnion  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:34:16pm

re: #415 tradewind

Oh, a reality show……

431 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:34:27pm

re: #421 yochanan

can we harvest the canukistani geese?

maybe feed them to the so called homeless

That was what I suggested on my blog, which caused the moonbat to scream at me, “YOU’D THINK IT WAS ALRIGHT TO GAS THE JEWS AS LONG AS THE GERMANS COULD GET THEIR GOLD TEETH AND EYEGLASSES!”

432 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:34:55pm

re: #425 DEZes

It is on DVD. ;)

Best Buy , Here I come!

433 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:35:08pm

re: #416 nyc redneck

don’t worry abt. all this menacing ever expanding wild life everywhere.
i’m glad supper is out there in nature.
we might be needing it soon.

* * * *
Thanks for reminding me to check on my “solar” made yogurt!

Obama’s Great Recession/Age of Unemployment is expanding my survival skills!

434 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:35:10pm

re: #429 wahabicorridor

Which is probably why they’ve never been domesticated for food.

Geese have long been domesticated for food in Europe. The Canada goose however is a different species.

435 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:35:15pm

re: #423 alegrias

bye, sweetie, have a wet one!

436 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:35:22pm

re: #426 VegasRick

Where did the little asshole go?

I’m still here !

//

437 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:35:25pm

re: #412 reine.de.tout

They are mean as hell.

I recall that my brother finally dropped the bread he was holding, and the geese stopped chasing him to grab the bread. He was terrified.

Was at a local pond several years ago, with loaves of bread to feed the ducks. A flock of geese lived around the end of the pond. They trotted over. Wary from the get-go, I was feeding them very generously. Then one of them put a foot smack on top of my shoe, his honking beak only INCHES from my … well, uh … you know.

/distracted him with several slices of bread REAL fast !

438 VegasRick  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:35:51pm

re: #436 sattv4u2

I’m still here !

//

LOL!

439 capitalist piglet  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:35:55pm

re: #338 Alouette

Some moonbat left a screechy diatribe on my blog because I don’t think that killing the geese who infest the LGA and JFK flight paths is a “Holocaust”

I suggest you strike while the iron is hot, and post some goose recipes.

440 opnion  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:36:00pm

re: #422 jacksontn

opnion … is that on dish/direct/cable? … I am in early and it looks like rain so I am thinking about watching a few movies … lmk …


I got it on Comcast on Demand, so your cable service should have it.

441 alegrias  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:36:09pm

re: #421 yochanan

can we harvest the canukistani geese?

maybe feed them to the so called homeless

* * * *
Geese pate a la ACORN?

442 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:36:32pm

re: #424 capitalist piglet

One interesting (to me, anyway) point about that.

You’re quite correct, no one here defends Biden…including the people who say they voted for him because they claim to have found Governor Palin unacceptable as a vice-presidential candidate. One would conclude, because of their vote, that Biden must have had some redeeming quality that made him preferable to her, but it’s been nothing but crickets.

Apparently Joe’s tenuous grip on reality is less a threat to the Republic than Palin’s folksy twang.

I still have this odd idea that the makeup on his forehead will sweat off and reveal his third eyeball.

443 MandyManners  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:36:38pm

re: #437 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Was at a local pond several years ago, with loaves of bread to feed the ducks. A flock of geese lived around the end of the pond. They trotted over. Wary from the get-go, I was feeding them very generously. Then one of them put a foot smack on top of my shoe, his honking beak only INCHES from my … well, uh … you know.

/distracted him with several slices of bread REAL fast !

There’s a joke in there about a hot dog buns but, I won’t make it.

444 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:36:48pm

re: #426 VegasRick

Where did the little asshole go?

Most likely looking for moral support at a stalker blog.
“The LGFers were mean to me, I didnt start it, they are just mean.”
Something like that anyway. ;)

445 JacksonTn  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:36:48pm

re: #440 opnion

I got it on Comcast on Demand, so your cable service should have it.

opnion … thanks … I have directtv but I will see if it is on there …

446 reine.de.tout  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:37:03pm

re: #437 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Was at a local pond several years ago, with loaves of bread to feed the ducks. A flock of geese lived around the end of the pond. They trotted over. Wary from the get-go, I was feeding them very generously. Then one of them put a foot smack on top of my shoe, his honking beak only INCHES from my … well, uh … you know.

/distracted him with several slices of bread REAL fast !

Oh, yes, they are very pushy.
And mean.
At the time my brother and I were feeding them, we were kids. The geese were almost as tall as we were - talk about scary.

447 VegasRick  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:37:07pm

re: #441 alegrias

* * * *
Geese pate a la ACORN?

ACORN only likes fast food hamagers!

448 opnion  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:37:45pm

re: #420 sattv4u2

If it’s out on DVD, I’ll go buy one and send it to my local CAIR office

They will not approve. It is a Ridley Scott movie & he caved into Cair on Kingdom of Heaven, but apparently not this time.

449 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:37:48pm

Boeing E-3 USAF Yukla 27 - 22 SEP 1995
Partial CVR

0746:20 AC: V 1 .
0746:28 AC: Rotate.
0746:28 CP: All the birds.
0746:31 FE: Lotta birds here.
0746:33 AC: # we took one.
0746:36 CP: What do I got?
0746:37 FE?: We took two of ‘em.
0746:37 AC: We got two motors.
0746:37 FE: Flight start.
0746:38 CP: Roger that.
0746:40 AC: Take me to override.
0746:41 CP: Go to override on, on the …
0746:43 RDO-CP: Elmendorf tower, Yukla two seven heavy has an emergency. Lost ah number two engine, we’ve taken some birds.
0746:44 St5: You’re in override.
0746:4 St5: There’s the rudder.
0746:46 FE: Got it.
0746:47 St5: You’re in override.
0746:48 AC: Thank you.
0746:49 FE: Starting dump fuel.
0746:51 AC: Start dumping.
0746:52 RDO-TWR: Yukla two seven heavy, roger. Say intentions.
0746:55 CAM: [Stick shaker activates, continues until impact]
0746:56 RDO-CP: Yukla zero two heavy’s coming back around for an emergency return.
0746:58 CP: Lower the nose, lower the nose, lower the nose.
0747:00 RDO-TWR: Two seven heavy, roger.
0747:00 AC: Goin’ down.
0747:02 CP?: Oh my God.
0747:02 AC: Oh #.
0747:04 CP: OK, give it all you got, give it all you got.
0747:06 RDO-CP: Two seven heavy, emergency.
0747:09 RDO-W1: Roll the crash, roll the crash.
0747:10 CAM: [PA tone]
0747:11 CP: Crash (landing)
0747:11 AC: We’re goin’ in.
0747:11 AC: We’re going down.

24 dead.

450 Truck Monkey  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:38:01pm

re: #433 alegrias

* * * *
Thanks for reminding me to check on my “solar” made yogurt!

Obama’s Great Recession/Age of Unemployment is expanding my survival skills!

You mean FUNEMPLOYMENT! It is no longer unemployment in the age of Ogabe.

451 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:38:17pm

re: #443 MandyManners

There’s a joke in there about a hot dog buns but, I won’t make it.

Thank you.

452 itellu3times  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:38:30pm

Palin slated to appear in Calif. after resignation

Republican Women Federated of Simi Valley said in a statement that Palin is scheduled to appear at the group’s 50th anniversary gala at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library on Aug. 8.

Group spokeswoman Pat Saraceno said the invitation-only event is closed to the media. Several hundred people are expected.

453 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:38:43pm

re: #434 Alouette

Geese have long been domesticated for food in Europe. The Canada goose however is a different species.

No, I was referring to swans. I think there may be instuctions on cooking swan in my copy of Escoffier, but I’d have to double check (his beef broth takes 6 days).

454 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:38:52pm

re: #421 yochanan

can we harvest the canukistani geese?

maybe feed them to the so called homeless URBAN OUTDOORSMEN

sounds classied in this PC world!

455 yochanan  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:38:53pm

re: #431 Alouette

PETA is just a gang a anti semitic creeps. the whole comparison to the Holocaust is just anti semitic garbage.

456 shiplord kirel  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:39:27pm

Way OT
We’re on Free Republic!

457 nyc redneck  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:39:35pm

re: #433 alegrias

* * * *
Thanks for reminding me to check on my “solar” made yogurt!

Obama’s Great Recession/Age of Unemployment is expanding my survival skills!

yes, isn’t it nice to “enjoy our new frugality”

458 JacksonTn  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:39:35pm

re: #449 Gus 802

Boeing E-3 USAF Yukla 27 - 22 SEP 1995
Partial CVR

24 dead.

Gus802 … that was chilling … it was almost making me cry … I read it three times …

459 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:39:49pm

re: #448 opnion

They will not approve. It is a Ridley Scott movie & he caved into Cair on Kingdom of Heaven, but apparently not this time.


In that case , I’ll send them 3 copies !

460 tradewind  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:39:58pm

More reality tv…..
[Link: www.breitbart.tv…]

461 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:41:05pm

biab

462 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:41:10pm

re: #458 JacksonTn

Gus802 … that was chilling … it was almost making me cry … I read it three times …

Same here. “Last words” are always disturbing.

463 Gang of One  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:41:16pm

re: #436 sattv4u2

I’m still here !

//

Not you, the other one.
/////!

464 tradewind  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:42:08pm

re: #456 shiplord kirel

/Waving to freepers/

465 VegasRick  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:42:23pm

re: #463 Gang of One

Not you, the other one.
/////!

The littler one?

466 opnion  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:42:38pm

re: #459 sattv4u2

In that case , I’ll send them 3 copies !


They will consider it a hate crime, you know since the movie does not portray the RoP in a good light.

467 NoWhereAlaska  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:42:53pm

re: #379 Sharmuta

First- the so-cons and libertarians in the GOP want vastly different things.


Partially correct, but neither group is getting their agendas addressed in any meaningful way. In general both groups are in favor of a strong military, fiscal responsibility, smaller government, secure borders, a reduction in illegal immigration, energy independence, among other items.
Regarding a third party: I really don’t care what third party emerges as a force in politics. But if they can work toward a better America I will support them.

468 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:43:21pm

re: #464 tradewind

/Waving to freepers/

I’m kinda freeped out.

469 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:43:23pm

re: #439 capitalist piglet

I suggest you strike while the iron is hot, and post some goose recipes.


Goose recipes!

470 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:43:28pm

NRB , gotta go take care of NASCAR and the PGA

”
“where are our satellite signals, I can’t see our feeds ,”

ME , “Sir , your reservation doesn’t start till the top of the hour!”

“Yeah , we know , but can’t you start it early?”

ME ,., “sir , If I start it now, i’ll have to charge you for the extra 15 minutes, thats why your office did NOT want to start it early !”

“oh”

471 sattv4u2  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:44:20pm

re: #466 opnion

They will consider it a hate crime, you know since the movie does not portray the RoP in a good light.

okay okay ,

6 copies , and thats my final offer !

472 tradewind  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:44:28pm

re: #467 NoWhereAlaska

I’m not taking a position on third parties, but just saying… I don’t think one can get a foothold in our electoral system.
A better plan may be to work to improve the ones we have.

473 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:44:31pm

re: #464 tradewind

/Waving to freepers/

Do you always wave with the middle finger extended?

474 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:44:39pm

re: #449 Gus 802

jesus god. Where did you get that?

475 tradewind  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:45:07pm

re: #473 DEZes

Oh, did I forget the sarc alert?
Or not.

476 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:45:52pm

re: #474 wahabicorridor

jesus god. Where did you get that?

Aviation Safety Nework

CVR transcript Boeing E-3 USAF Yukla 27 - 22 SEP 1995

477 HoosierHoops  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:45:58pm

re: #406 nyc redneck

{Hoosier}
wow

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That thread needs Closure!
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Background: Alot of lizards feeling were hurt over a
simple misunderstanding….
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Please Read this:
After a long night of dancing and drinking I sat down at 5:30 AM
and posted that I saw a movie called Blog Wars 2 and blogged my
First time at FDL 3 years ago…Jane took my Blog Virginity.. I moved on from
there to conservative sites…etc….
Well somebody said something and a real dust up occurred…..
When you go back and read the posts some lizards feelings really got slammed.
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This is important… Ice or any other new lizard….
I’ve posted over 14000 times here.. Not one lizard has ever insulted me..
We allow good natured ribbing with the hoopster
So you don’t need to jump to my defense and start a war here…
KB did not attack me….You are a newbie here…..
I’m really sorry I was playing in the pool while this flame war erupted….
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If anything It’s me that trash talks the dumbass’s that come here..
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Closure

478 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:47:06pm

re: #475 tradewind

Oh, did I forget the sarc alert?
Or not.

;)

479 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:48:26pm

re: #476 Gus 802


Gus802, what doe the term ‘heavy’ mean as used in these transcripts?

480 boogereatinmoron  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:48:39pm

re: #368 NoWhereAlaska

I thought that I was the only lizard in Ketchikan. Are you enjoying the sunshine?

481 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:49:11pm

re: #479 wahabicorridor

Gus802, what doe the term ‘heavy’ mean as used in these transcripts?

Large aircraft.

482 NoWhereAlaska  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:49:59pm

re: #472 tradewind

I’m not taking a position on third parties, but just saying… I don’t think one can get a foothold in our electoral system.
A better plan may be to work to improve the ones we have.

I understand your point of view. However, given the current state of both parties, neither one will change without an outside force. The statists are in charge and they will remain so until something dislodges them. I am willing to work on the GOP, but what a pathetic choice we now have.
Palin is a strong person, and I voted for her for Governor and for V.P. but she is frankly not ready for the Presidency. None of the rest of the GOP choices are any better.

483 debutaunt  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:50:13pm

re: #481 Gus 802

Large aircraft.

Loaded with fuel and passengers?

484 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:51:02pm

re: #483 debutaunt

Loaded with fuel and passengers?

Anything over 250,000 lbs. MTOW — maximum take-off weight.

485 Ringo the Gringo  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:51:05pm

Lovely day outside….Think I’ll go for a bike ride.

486 NoWhereAlaska  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:51:53pm

re: #480 boogereatinmoron

I thought that I was the only lizard in Ketchikan. Are you enjoying the sunshine?


Is is grand! I am on Knudsen Cove right now. Windy but beautiful.

487 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:52:17pm

re: #484 Gus 802

Anything over 250,000 lbs. MTOW — maximum take-off weight.

255,000 MTOW

488 Truck Monkey  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:52:24pm

The backyard hammock and a Cuban Cohiba beckons.

489 hazzyday  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:53:14pm

Palin should get Dick Cheney’s wife to run as VP candidate

490 shiplord kirel  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:53:21pm

re: #483 debutaunt

Loaded with fuel and passengers?

E-3 Sentry.
Fuel and a crew of 23. This is the Air Force’s big AWACS plane, essentially a flying radar station and C3 center. This was the only fatal crash of an E-3.

491 sawblade88  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:56:25pm

re: #383 nyc redneck

she needs a flock of persistent raucous geese crapping on her lawn and menacing her children and pets.
that will educate the fool as to negotiation possibilities w/geese.

Years ago we visited a state park in Illinois that had an 1840s young Lincoln theme — log cabin, re-enactors, animals. There was one gander who liked to chase people — run at them, honking and flapping, and make most people back off, if not run away. I once raised geese, and wasn’t intimidated. I picked him up, tucked him under my arm, and carried him around for a bit. Quietest goose you ever saw.

492 DEZes  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:56:41pm

The couch is calling.
Have a great one Lizards.

493 hazzyday  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:56:57pm

re: #472 tradewind

I’m not taking a position on third parties, but just saying… I don’t think one can get a foothold in our electoral system.
A better plan may be to work to improve the ones we have.

A third party vote is just an eccentric cast away vote. does anyone remember them beyond a name or anything? If a third party wants to be viable in a national election it needs to hold a lot of local and congressional offices. Otherwise it’s never having real sex.

494 Lincolntf  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:57:04pm

re: #357 Baelzar

Douchebag.

495 Gus  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:57:21pm

re: #492 DEZes

The couch is calling.
Have a great one Lizards.

Later DEZes.

Think I’ll head out too.

Later folks!

496 hazzyday  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:57:29pm

re: #491 sawblade88

Alan Keyes?

497 yochanan  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:59:02pm

re: #439 capitalist piglet

I suggest you strike while the iron is hot, and post some goose recipes.

fas gras anyone?

498 horse  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 12:59:05pm

re: #103 MandyManners

You are making a judgement based on an assumption. Why?

I consider it making a prediction based on what she has done after joining the R national ticket last fall, rather than what she did prior. My prediction could be wrong, and I hope it is, but I see her as now getting into the political game rather than using her very positive results as governor to succeed without the need to play their game. She will not be playing to her strengths.

499 shiplord kirel  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 1:02:22pm

NATO E-3 crash, Aktion Greece 1996.

This one was also caused by bird strikes on take-off, seagulls being the culprits this time. There were no human fatalities but the aircraft was a complete loss.

500 boogereatinmoron  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 1:02:44pm

re: #486 NoWhereAlaska

I am at the other end of the road working on my sunburn.

I totally agree with your summary of Palin by the way. I voted for her because she was not Murkowski. At that time I don’t think I had ever heard her speak or even seen her picture. I now alternate between delight at how she drives progressives nuts and anger that she really does not have the goods to be a serious candidate for POTUS.

I do think that she can have a positive influence on the national scene raising money and promoting true conservative ideals and she will continue to be a lightning rod for the moonbats and MSM pundits.

My kids met her and really liked her and I sat in the airport for a couple of hours with Todd waiting for the weather to clear and he seemed like a real gentleman.

501 NoWhereAlaska  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 1:03:42pm

re: #498 horse

I consider it making a prediction based on what she has done after joining the R national ticket last fall, rather than what she did prior. My prediction could be wrong, and I hope it is, but I see her as now getting into the political game rather than using her very positive results as governor to succeed without the need to play their game. She will not be playing to her strengths.

Her strengths are challenging the establishment. She had successes as Governor, but the legislature continues to resist her measures, and it takes a lot of effort to change the Status Quo. With all the crap she was dealing with, her efforts were getting diluted. Whether it hurts or helps her bid for higher office, I believe her decision was a good one.

502 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 1:07:54pm

re: #499 shiplord kirel

NATO E-3 crash, Aktion Greece 1996.

This one was also caused by bird strikes on take-off, seagulls being the culprits this time. There were no human fatalities but the aircraft was a complete loss.

What a fun site! Here are some pics showing what happens when a pit bull gets loose in the forward cargo hold

503 odorlesspaintthinner  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 1:07:56pm

I’d say this is a bad move. As governor of a state she builds her credentials.

What I mean to say is: I’d say this is a bad move- if politics in this country made sense. But if Obama could get elected based on his supposed speaking abilities (I still have yet to witness it) then what the hell, let her do what she wants.

(IMHO, Obama and Palin are both examples of this country being way up high on the weirdometer, and way down low on the intellectualometer [Pat. Pend.].)

504 horse  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 1:10:29pm

re: #108 Gang of One

She still is a ‘somebody’ or else nobody, especially the MSM, would be watching her. Please explain your thought on this.

Without completing even one term as governor, she does not currently have a foundation to stand upon and claim significant experience in getting results for the people. She could have, as she was making great results as the governor, but all many people will remember is she quit. It may not be fair, but it is probably going to be the reality. Without a foundation of experience, she will probably end up going heavily populist, which is not particularly useful or easy to trust. If she doesn’t go populist, I don’t understand how she will generate interest or support. What other foundation does she have to stand upon?

505 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 1:11:39pm

happy hour has arrived so wahabi is off to get happy

play nice………………

506 jvic  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 1:11:43pm

re: #370 reine.de.tout

What is so very interesting about these people is that they never volunteer to actually do something concrete, that might interfere with her life. It’s all “somebody else” has to do something.

And somebody else has to pay the price for their “benevolence”.

That’s a favorite game among upscale liberals in the Boston burbs. “Let’s decide how the hicks in the sticks can use their land. Then we can feel good about ourselves for protecting Naychah. And the cost of compliance is very reasonable: only three or four figures per year.”

From the Frank Rich op-ed mentioned earlier:

Most important, she stands for a genuine movement: a dwindling white nonurban America that is aflame with grievances and awash in self-pity as the country hurtles into the 21st century and leaves it behind.

In addition to Rich’s slanted choice of words, he’s factually wrong: much of nonurban America would be entirely willing to be left behind alone. I don’t know if Rich is ignorant or if he is knowingly misspeaking in support of an agenda.

507 horse  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 1:14:05pm

re: #501 NoWhereAlaska

Her strengths are challenging the establishment. She had successes as Governor, but the legislature continues to resist her measures, and it takes a lot of effort to change the Status Quo. With all the crap she was dealing with, her efforts were getting diluted. Whether it hurts or helps her bid for higher office, I believe her decision was a good one.

Yes, while pursuing and while governor she did a great job challenging the establishment in Alaska and that is why I liked her. But that was before last fall. Since then, the establishment has been giving her a whole lot crap, and she has not been successful in challenging it. So now what does she have to stand upon? Populism?

508 jorline  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 1:14:37pm

Grand Ayatollah Montazeri’s Fatwa

In a very important development, Grand Ayatollah Hossein Ali Montazeri, the most senior cleric living in Iran, and one of the top two* marja’ taghlid (source of emulation) in Shiite Islam, issued a series of Fatwas, calling the Supreme Leader illegitimate and saying that he was working with the government against religion. Montazeri has called on people to take action against this injustice, even if they have to pay a heavy price for it.

509 wahabicorridor  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 1:14:48pm

re: #506 jvic

I don’t know if Rich is ignorant or if he is knowingly misspeaking in support of an agenda.

False choice. Rich is remains willfully ignorant in order to support his agenda. If he were the least bit intellectually honest, he’d look for evidence of the racist, redneck rube slant.

510 pingjockey  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 1:22:16pm

re: #506 jvic

That happened here in WA state, the west siders, Seattle Tacoma, the urban sprawl along I-5 decided growth management was a good idea. Except it only really applied to the rural eastside where I live. City slickers making laws for us ignorant farmers and ranchers that have no basis in reality.

511 quiet man  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 1:25:57pm

Good..Nice to see a real leader out there..and that she is going for the moderates that Obama is turning off is a smart move.

So much for the wishful thinking of the left, the distortions of those GOPers who dislike her, and the gyrations of the government media.

The left is shaking in their shoes, and with good reason.

512 Picayune  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 3:32:08pm

re: #276 snowcrash

My small but immediate prediction is that Palin will be down in TX
speech giving/fund raising for Rick Perry. The race will be heavily
focused on branding Kay Bailey Hutchinson as Kay “Bailout” Hutchinson
and energizing the tea party type crowd.


Five days ago I posted that Palin would do the same at a Repub private Dinner this fall on the MS Gulf Coast. This knowledge led me to think that Roger Stone’s analysis of Palin’s future was probably correct - at a time when all pundits were predicting “kaputsville” for Palin’s political career.

(see Stone video here: [Link: video.newsmax.com…]

After I was called on it for credibility, I stated that I could not disclose more info on it, either until after the event, or after it became public knowledge by other means.

Since Charles has opened this thread, I’ll break silence and say that 30 minutes after Palin’s press statement on 7/3/09, I was informed by a business partner that a property we own has been booked by I believe the MS Repub party for a private dinner for 200+ this fall featuring Sarah Palin, and attended by several Southern sitting Repub Governors.

Them’s the brief facts, and after reading Stone’s article, I still believe that Palin’s first move is to launch speaking engagements at fund-raisers across the lower 48, for now. If this effort meets with success, it may lead to her decision in 2011 to announce her 2012 bid for a Repub presidential candidacy.

Many things may effect this outcome, as Palin herself now acknowledges.

However, look for her press releases to respond to Obama/Dem Congress policy blunders after she leaves the AK Gov’s office. At every turn she attacks, she will receive her usual dosage of MSM mean spirited smear. Her consistent attacks on both the Obama administration policy faults and the MSM, should win her large popular responses from conservatives and moderates as well, for taking a stand against their over-reaching ideology during an economic recession.

Time will tell if she can build a national following and the credentials requisite to run for POTUS in 2012. It should make for interesting viewing.

513 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 3:48:40pm

re: #288 zombie


So, you’ve got Sarah Palin at one end advocating pre-marital abstinence, and the National Health Service at the other end telling school kids they need to masturbate as often as possible when they can’t find a partner for loveless sex.

How many teenagers actually need to be told to rub one out?

514 ShanghaiEd  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 5:09:29pm

re: #513 Who Watches the Watchmen?

How many teenagers actually need to be told to rub one out?

Problem is, most of the abstinence folks are against masturbation, too. Should kids be taught that masturbation is (a) sinful, or (b) not sinful? Not a lot of middle ground, on that one.

515 Mike McDaniel  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 5:19:57pm

I find it interesting that Palin is doing precisely what she did to get the Governorship of Alaska.

She got a post on their Oil & Gas Commission, used it to build her resume, then bailed to run for higher office. And now she’s doing it again.

I won’t say Palin is my first choice. I am. Followed by Dr. Jerry Pournelle. Followed by Prof. Hanson.

But we could do a lot worse than Palin.

516 ShanghaiEd  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 5:41:21pm

re: #183 Walter L. Newton

We are talking about PALIN. You want to compare someone like Palin is is better than the idiot Biden, but is Palin the BEST that the conservative movement can come up with?

If you can say yes, she is the best, than good. If you think we can do BETTER, find the BEST, then we need to get to work and stop wasting time.

It sounds to me, in an effort to win at any cost, a lot of conservatives are going to settle for better, and loose.

Walter: I know this thread is near its end, but I have to say that this is, IMO, the single most cogent comment on the subject I’ve seen.

In fact, it’s so superior to my ramblings in that direction that I will, henceforth, limit my comment on the subject to “What Walter said.” That OK with you?

517 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 5:56:20pm

re: #18 zombie

“Energy independence” is the key point.

Problem is, the Repubs and the Dems are each only half right on the issue. We need to COMBINE all approaches. I want to see:

• Drilling in Alaska and Gulf of Mexico done in a way to minimize the environmental impact (R);
• Crash program of building newest-generation ultrasafe nuke plants (R);
• Increased funding for “alternative energy” research (D);
• Increased funding for government labs like Livermore doing fusion research (R);
• Focus on accelerating solar cell efficiency (D)
…etc.

(THe “R” and “D” after each item indicate which party is most promoting which entry.)

We must take the petro-dollars away from the islamic Theocrats of the Middle East.

Zombie -

In a word YES! That is all.

-S-

518 mamashawna  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 6:24:52pm

re: #45 alegrias

I don’t know why you’ve been dinged down for that comment, it’s spot on IMHO. I dinged you up ‘cause you’re right! Sarah is it, as far as I’m concerned.

519 kynna  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:06:30pm

Palin tells the Washington Times for a Sunday story that she is eager to campaign for Republicans and independents and even Democrats who share her views on limited government, national defense and energy independence.

Just quoting this as a reminder because I’ve been reading this thread and everyone is talking like she’s announced she’s running for president. What she’s announced is exactly what I said I thought she was going to do. *bows and accepts accolades for correct prediction* She’s going to show up at rallies and make speeches and 20,000 people are going to attend said rallies so small government conservatives will have a chance at getting their feet in the door — despite the old boy network. That’s a noble effort. She probably won’t be the one going on the talk shows or anything else.

She’s planning on raising cain for the entrenched political establishment of both parties. I wish her well in that endeavor.

520 Chekote  Sun, Jul 12, 2009 10:55:04pm

People have been writing that Palin needs to bone up on the issues now for nearly a year. She still hasn’t done so. At what point will her supporters acknowledge that Palin just isn’t interested in boning up on the issues? Since when is quitting half way through the first term in office a smart move when lack of experience was one of the main criticism? What is wrong with a governor traveling around the country and abroad on trade missions learning about the issues, meeting the leadership of other countries? Why is it better for her to quit and hit the campaign trail giving the same speech as she did with McCain? I realize that part of Palin’s appeal is that the Left hates her so much but what about her qualifications, knowledge of the issues, her record?

521 kynna  Mon, Jul 13, 2009 1:01:25am

re: #520 Chekote

She does have a record. Look it up. It’s a pretty good one. Unfortunately the media never wanted to talk about it, and the GOP failed to capitalize on her success (maybe because she took out some of their entrenched old boys). She leaves her state in the black. She understands the need for energy independence and negotiated a very important pipeline deal — an accomplishment our own president still hasn’t matched. In fact, all of those accomplishments — cleaning up the state government, running a successful economy, negotiating a deal beneficial to her state and potentially the country — are all unmatched by our president, vice president and the majority of our congress.

When are her detractors going to at least admit they really don’t know anything about her and are just parroting talking points?

522 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Mon, Jul 13, 2009 4:51:38am

flake flake flake.

523 Sheldon  Mon, Jul 13, 2009 6:37:01am

Re: 521
AMEN ! ! !

524 Mr Spiffy  Mon, Jul 13, 2009 8:10:36am

re: #39 nyc redneck

she is going to drive the left craaazy.

very short trip

525 Salamantis  Mon, Jul 13, 2009 12:02:51pm

A Farewell to Harms: Palin was bad for the Republicans—and the republic
[Link: online.wsj.com…]

Sarah Palin’s resignation gives Republicans a new opportunity to see her plain—to review the bidding, see her strengths, acknowledge her limits, and let go of her drama. It is an opportunity they should take. They mean to rebuild a great party. They need to do it on solid ground.

Her history does not need to be rehearsed at any length. Ten months ago she was embraced with friendliness by her party. The left and the media immediately overplayed their hand, with attacks on her children. The party rallied round, as a party should. She went on the trail a sensation but demonstrated in the ensuing months that she was not ready to go national and in fact never would be. She was hungry, loved politics, had charm and energy, loved walking onto the stage, waving and doing the stump speech. All good. But she was not thoughtful. She was a gifted retail politician who displayed the disadvantages of being born into a point of view (in her case a form of conservatism; elsewhere and in other circumstances, it could have been a form of liberalism) and swallowing it whole: She never learned how the other sides think, or why.

In television interviews she was out of her depth in a shallow pool. She was limited in her ability to explain and defend her positions, and sometimes in knowing them. She couldn’t say what she read because she didn’t read anything. She was utterly unconcerned by all this and seemed in fact rather proud of it: It was evidence of her authenticity. She experienced criticism as both partisan and cruel because she could see no truth in any of it. She wasn’t thoughtful enough to know she wasn’t thoughtful enough. Her presentation up to the end has been scattered, illogical, manipulative and self-referential to the point of self-reverence. “I’m not wired that way,” “I’m not a quitter,” “I’m standing up for our values.” I’m, I’m, I’m.

In another age it might not have been terrible, but here and now it was actually rather horrifying.

McCain-Palin lost. Mrs. Palin has now stepped down, but she continues to poll high among some members of the Republican base, some of whom have taken to telling themselves Palin myths.

…[Sal: here ensues a list of the different myths, and their debunkings, then the article concludes as follows]

Here’s why all this matters. The world is a dangerous place. It has never been more so, or more complicated, more straining of the reasoning powers of those with actual genius and true judgment. This is a time for conservative leaders who know how to think.

Here are a few examples of what we may face in the next 10 years: a profound and prolonged American crash, with the admission of bankruptcy and the spread of deep social unrest; one or more American cities getting hit with weapons of mass destruction from an unknown source; faint glimmers of actual secessionist movements as Americans for various reasons and in various areas decide the burdens and assumptions of the federal government are no longer attractive or legitimate.

The era we face, that is soon upon us, will require a great deal from our leaders. They had better be sturdy. They will have to be gifted. There will be many who cannot, and should not, make the cut. Now is the time to look for those who can. And so the Republican Party should get serious, as serious as the age, because that is what a grown-up, responsible party—a party that deserves to lead—would do.

It’s not a time to be frivolous, or to feel the temptation of resentment, or the temptation of thinking next year will be more or less like last year, and the assumptions of our childhoods will more or less reign in our future. It won’t be that way.

We are going to need the best.

RTWT


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