Joe Satriani is a Silver Surfer fan?

Smokin'!

A spectre is haunting Europe -- the spectre of communism. All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Pope and Tsar, Metternich and Guizot, French Radicals and German police-spies.

Where is the party in opposition that has not been decried as communistic by its opponents in power? Where is the opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of communism, against the more advanced opposition parties, as well as against its reactionary adversaries?

Two things result from this fact:

I. Communism is already acknowledged by all European powers to be itself a power.

II. It is high time that Communists should openly, in the face of the whole world, publish their views, their aims, their tendencies, and meet this nursery tale of the spectre of communism with a manifesto of the party itself.

To this end, Communists of various nationalities have assembled in London and sketched the following manifesto, to be published in the English, French, German, Italian, Flemish and Danish languages.

SNIP

I have G3 live and have worn it out!

That was great. Thanks Charles.

Satriani is an alien.

re: #3 MandyManners

A spectre is haunting Europe -- the spectre of communism. All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Pope and Tsar, Metternich and Guizot, French Radicals and German police-spies.

Where is the party in opposition that has not been decried as communistic by its opponents in power? Where is the opposition that has not hurled back the branding reproach of communism, against the more advanced opposition parties, as well as against its reactionary adversaries?

Two things result from this fact:

I. Communism is already acknowledged by all European powers to be itself a power.

II. It is high time that Communists should openly, in the face of the whole world, publish their views, their aims, their tendencies, and meet this nursery tale of the spectre of communism with a manifesto of the party itself.

To this end, Communists of various nationalities have assembled in London and sketched the following manifesto, to be published in the English, French, German, Italian, Flemish and Danish languages.

SNIP

To the various Commies writing the aforementioned multi-lingual screed:

Take your murderous policies, shove them down your throats, and choke on them.

Fuck Off And Die,

Dark_Falcon

beatin on a Strat...shred

re: #6 Racer X

Satriani is an alien.

Not so. He's an exceptionally gifted human.

We mere mortals can only stand in awe.

re: #7 Dark_Falcon

To the various Commies writing the aforementioned multi-lingual screed:

Take your murderous policies, shove them down your throats, and choke on them.

Fuck Off And Die,

Dark_Falcon

That was written in 1848. They fucked off and died a long time ago.

re: #7 Dark_Falcon

I think they're already dead, but you are welcome to the sentiment.

There's a joke I heard somewhere, that Marx and Engels come back to life, and see the suffering and the misery Communism caused. They look around, shrug, and say,

"It was just an idea."

technically he's very good...needs a Mohawk tho

re: #6 Racer X

Satriani is an alien.

Notice that you never see him and Lance Armstrong together.

re: #7 Dark_Falcon

To the various Commies writing the aforementioned multi-lingual screed:

Take your murderous policies, shove them down your throats, and choke on them.

Fuck Off And Die,

Dark_Falcon

Well, considering that FCBBHO follows that ideology, what can you do to combat him and his ideology?

re: #6 Racer X

Satriani is an alien.

not really...do some Jeff Beck sometime

re: #10 Alouette

That was written in 1848. They fucked off and died a long time ago.

Yeah, I should have clicked the link.

[facepalm]

re: #10 Alouette

That was written in 1848. They fucked off and died a long time ago.

Oh, dear me. I just spewed spittle.

re: #14 MandyManners

Well, considering that FCBBHO follows that ideology, what can you do to combat him and his ideology?

Every time his policies come up, I'm in there pitching alternatives and explaining why they won't work. I contribute to Republican candidates, and I always remember to vote.

NOT a Stratocaster...

re: #10 Alouette

That was written in 1848. They fucked off and died a long time ago.

whew, that's a relief!
/

I dont' worship humans but, I really like Joe.

re: #14 MandyManners

Educate, educate, educate. Make people pay attention to what is actaully in the constitution. I have a pocket edition. Excuse me the first ten amendments.

no BO...just JB

Good Night Lizards. See you on the morrow.
Stay scaly.

BARTENDER!

Whiskey for all the lizards!

re: #22 pingjockey

Educate, educate, educate. Make people pay attention to what is actaully in the constitution. I have a pocket edition. Excuse me the first ten amendments.

Amazon linky? I would like to have one of those!

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Every time his policies come up, I'm in there pitching alternatives and explaining why they won't work. I contribute to Republican candidates, and I always remember to vote.

Do you understand the philosophical divide between negative liberty and positive liberty? Do you know how that affects today?

re: #15 albusteve

not really...do some Jeff Beck sometime

Did someone say Jeff Beck?

re: #7 Dark_Falcon

To the various Commies writing the aforementioned multi-lingual screed:

Take your murderous policies, shove them down your throats, and choke on them.

Fuck Off And Die,

Dark_Falcon

Well said.
Fucking Commie Rat Bastards - and the POTUS is one, too.

re: #26 Floral Giraffe

Never mind, bought one for $0.01 with $3.99 shipping!
YEAH!

re: #26 Floral Giraffe
No amazon linky, was given to me years ago when I joined the VFW. I haven't even thought to look for one!

re: #28 NJDhockeyfan

way cool...two big dogs

re: #30 Floral Giraffe
Yeah! Well done. Facts drive some folks mad. Mwahahaha!

re: #26 Floral Giraffe

Amazon linky? I would like to have one of those!

The Heritage Foundation bookstore sells them in packs of 10 or 25!

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re: #34 SteveC
Oh good find. There are going to be some surprised kids and relatives at Christmas.

re: #27 MandyManners

Do you understand the philosophical divide between negative liberty and positive liberty? Do you know how that affects today?

Yes, I do:

Negative Liberty concerns rights that prevent the government from doing things to you, i.e. No searches without a warrant, protection from prior restraint of speech. The Bill of Rights is almost entirely concerned with Negative liberties.

Positive Liberty concerns rights that cause the government to give you things, such as unemployement assistance, or health care.

One key difference is that Negative Liberties prevent the growth of government power, while Positive Liberties encourage or require the growth of said power.

Do I pass inspection?

The Yardbirds were great..yet Frank Zappa is still my fav guitarist

re: #38 pingjockey

Oh good find. There are going to be some surprised kids and relatives at Christmas.

Excellent! Glad to be of some help!

Stevie Ray Vaughan & Jeff Beck

re: #38 pingjockey

Oh good find. There are going to be some surprised kids and relatives at Christmas.

That's not so bad...I got one of those duplicate Declaration of Independence things that they sell at the National Archives...framed it and hung it in the Little Man's room...he was only 2 at the time (better half thought I was a little nuts)

re: #40 quiet man

The Yardbirds were great..yet Frank Zappa is still my fav guitarist

I've never heard anybody say that...

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

Yes, I do:

Negative Liberty concerns rights that prevent the government from doing things to you, i.e. No searches without a warrant, protection from prior restraint of speech. The Bill of Rights is almost entirely concerned with Negative liberties.

Positive Liberty concerns rights that cause the government to give you things, such as unemployement assistance, or health care.

One key difference is that Negative Liberties prevent the growth of government power, while Positive Liberties encourage or require the growth of said power.

Do I pass inspection?

What inspection?

I asked you a question.

Looks like Obama needs another shiny object.

WASHINGTON -- President Obama has ordered his national security team to investigate reports that U.S. allies were responsible for the deaths of as many as 2,000 Taliban prisoners of war during the opening days of the war in Afghanistan.

Obama told CNN in an interview that aired Sunday that he doesn't know what how the U.S.-allied Northern Alliance behaved in November 2001, but he wants a full accounting before deciding how to move forward.

"I think that, you know, there are responsibilities that all nations have even in war," Obama said during an interview at the end of a six-day trip to Russia, Italy and Ghana.

"And if it appears that our conduct in some way supported violations of the laws of war, then I think that, you know, we have to know about that."

re: #43 srb1976
Heh. Maybe nuts in a sly way. He was learning when he looked at it and didn't know it!

Les Paul: Chasing Sound! "The Guitar"

re: #45 MandyManners

What inspection?

I asked you a question.

Sorry, that came out wrong. I should have said:

Is my answer correct?

re: #43 srb1976

That's not so bad...I got one of those duplicate Declaration of Independence things that they sell at the National Archives...framed it and hung it in the Little Man's room...he was only 2 at the time (better half thought I was a little nuts)

I chaperoned a DVD party this weekend - bunch of teens watched National Treasure . I still see Nick Cage using the Declaration as a shield. (not of his freedom, but of his ass!)

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

Yes, I do:

Negative Liberty concerns rights that prevent the government from doing things to you, i.e. No searches without a warrant, protection from prior restraint of speech. The Bill of Rights is almost entirely concerned with Negative liberties.

Positive Liberty concerns rights that cause the government to give you things, such as unemployement assistance, or health care.

One key difference is that Negative Liberties prevent the growth of government power, while Positive Liberties encourage or require the growth of said power.

Do I pass inspection?

It sure would be nice if the congresscritters would have someone nail that idea of limited government to their foreheads office doors.

re: #46 livefreeor die
We have a supreme court nominee hearing coming up, cap and trade, health care, another stimulus bill. I expect even more diversionary tactics. The CIA nonprogram for one, maybe having the US Att. Gen. starting an investigation, that kind of misdirection.

re: #46 livefreeor die

Looks like Obama needs another shiny object.

lfod ... perfect ... Obama never stops giving me reason to want to vomit every time I hear his name ... he hates us ...

re: #50 SteveC

I love that movie = )
better half got a pocket constitution while we were there...but the soft spot in my heart has always been the Declaration...I'm sappy that way

re: #39 Dark_Falcon

Yes, I do:

Negative Liberty concerns rights that prevent the government from doing things to you, i.e. No searches without a warrant, protection from prior restraint of speech. The Bill of Rights is almost entirely concerned with Negative liberties.

Positive Liberty concerns rights that cause the government to give you things, such as unemployement assistance, or health care.

One key difference is that Negative Liberties prevent the growth of government power, while Positive Liberties encourage or require the growth of said power.

Do I pass inspection?

Isn't unemployment assistance a form of insurance, in most states? I.e., workers pay a small amount monthly from their paycheck toward it? Not exactly a gift from the government.

re: #48 NJDhockeyfan

pretty cool...guitars are the soul of sound

REP. WEINER ENGAGED TO HILLARY CLINTON AIDE

wot's wrong with this headline?
/

re: #53 JacksonTn

lfod ... perfect ... Obama never stops giving me reason to want to vomit every time I hear his name ... he hates us ...

He doesn't hate you; you just don't understand.

re: #52 pingjockey

We have a supreme court nominee hearing coming up, cap and trade, health care, another stimulus bill. I expect even more diversionary tactics. The CIA nonprogram for one, maybe having the US Att. Gen. starting an investigation, that kind of misdirection.

You should read the Newsweek article (linked at Drudge) about Holder. Keeping the anticipated political misdirection tactics in mind, it's a remarkable piece of propaganda.

re: #59 jaunte
Newsweak? Why am I not surprised.

re: #57 itellu3times

REP. WEINER ENGAGED TO HILLARY CLINTON AIDE

wot's wrong with this headline?
/

Hillary runs it all herself; she don't need no stinkin' aide!

Les Paul is a far greater and influential American than BO will ever be...even Leo Fender

Mwahaha! ESPN showing the Disco Demolition night 20 years ago.
White Sox promo in old Comiskey Park. A riot broke out.

Good night, Lizards.

Your prayers and thoughts are needed greatly.

re: #64 MandyManners

Good night, Lizards.

Your prayers and thoughts are needed greatly.

Done, Mandy. Can you tell us what's wrong?

re: #64 MandyManners
Nite Mandy. All the positive thoughts and prayers we can muster up headed your way!

Left the house at 7:00 AM. (EST) Just got home. That's a long effing workday.

I shant work Sundays again.

re: #64 MandyManners

Good night, Lizards.

Your prayers and thoughts are needed greatly.

Good night {{{Mandy}}}. You'll all be in my prayers for sure.

re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That sucks!

re: #62 albusteve

Multitrack recording alone has earned him a place in history.

re: #63 pingjockey

Mwahaha! ESPN showing the Disco Demolition night 20 years ago.
White Sox promo in old Comiskey Park. A riot broke out.

I remember that. Funny as hell.

re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Left the house at 7:00 AM. (EST) Just got home. That's a long effing workday.

I shant work Sundays again.

Hey, if you can get out of working sundays more power to you!

re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Left the house at 7:00 AM. (EST) Just got home. That's a long effing workday.

I shant work Sundays again.

I hope you got the sale.

Evening all! Charles, love the clip! But here's one back at ya. It's Kathleen Battle and Christopher Parkening doing the Bach/Gounoud Ave Maria - Battle doing the Ave Maria, with Parkening doing the Bach Prelude No. 1:

Pure beauty!

:-)

re: #64 MandyManners

Good night, Lizards.

Your prayers and thoughts are needed greatly.

You got it ma'am.

re: #72 srb1976

Hey, if you can get out of working sundays more power to you!

Oh. I'm out of it. (I volunteered). Drove 500 miles and made $1,200.00. So, it's not so bad, tomorrow it may be worth 800.00...but, I'll take it.

Mandy, you and yours have remained in my prayers.

Joe "the glove" Satriani is no doubt one of the best guitar players to ever hold one.

I guess I just prefer Hendrix in all his dirty, unpolished trailblazing madness. Joe would agree he made the rest of them possible.

re: #74 subsailor68

I love this one...

Albert King & Stevie Ray Vaughan In Session - Stormy Monday

re: #76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh. I'm out of it. (I volunteered). Drove 500 miles and made $1,200.00. So, it's not so bad, tomorrow it may be worth 800.00...but, I'll take it.

Volunteered? Well, at least it was worth the money (my schedule rotates into working weekends every other month or so...having weekdays off makes some things a lot easier)

re: #64 MandyManners

You & your family are in my thoughts & prayers every night. You don't have to ask.
{{MM}}

re: #81 srb1976

This was a call back...

re: #78 tman

Here's my favorite live Hendrix recording, a smoking version of Stone Free from Royal Albert Hall.

re: #67 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did you get the sale?

re: #64 MandyManners

Good night, Lizards.

Your prayers and thoughts are needed greatly.

Good evening Mandy...I haven't been back through the threads, but I think this may be about your Mom?

My prayers are with you - but you would have guessed that already. You are a pretty amazing lady in any event, and no matter what happens in the next few days or weeks, I feel certain that you will get through it.

With great affection and admiration,
subsailor68

re: #81 srb1976

Volunteered? Well, at least it was worth the money (my schedule rotates into working weekends every other month or so...having weekdays off makes some things a lot easier)

srb ... don't you usually work late night shift? ...

good night folks.

{Mandy and family}}

re: #87 JacksonTn

srb ... don't you usually work late night shift? ...

Rotating shift again...nights one week, days the next...this is my days week...tomorrow is my friday = )

re: #88 pingjockey

good night folks.

Sweet dreams.

re: #90 srb1976

Rotating shift again...nights one week, days the next...this is my days week...tomorrow is my friday = )

srb ... I don't know how people do it changing shifts up like that ... my sister was a nurse and she use to do that and it was hard on her body when she could not adjust her sleeping ... hope you are able to do it ...

re: #76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh. I'm out of it. (I volunteered). Drove 500 miles and made $1,200.00. So, it's not so bad, tomorrow it may be worth 800.00...but, I'll take it.

Then obviously you have not seen again the lady wanting the freebie.

re: #92 JacksonTn

srb ... I don't know how people do it changing shifts up like that ... my sister was a nurse and she use to do that and it was hard on her body when she could not adjust her sleeping ... hope you are able to do it ...

The ways ours is set up, we get just as many off days as work days, so I have nearly a week to switch over...not so bad, and all the long weekends make for more time to spend with the kids = )

re: #84 BigPapa

There's a reason The "Concerts" album is $122 new on amazon today, and it ain't just because it's old.

Easily some of the greatest Jimi on this record, tough to pick a favorite.

re: #55 ShanghaiEd

Isn't unemployment assistance a form of insurance, in most states? I.e., workers pay a small amount monthly from their paycheck toward it? Not exactly a gift from the government.

The employers pay the premium, not the employees, and no, there's no employee deduction from their paycheck to pay for it.

/there in lies the disconnect

re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I love this one...

Okay FBV...there's only one way I can describe that - and I'd really like to use the true euphemism. That's incredibly 'freakin' beautiful! Thanks so much for the link.

When ya think about it, Bach gone for hundreds of years, Gounoud gone for hundreds of years - Bobby McFarrin and an audience of folks - here...that's fantastic!!

Thanks so much!!!

re: #90 srb1976

HAPPY FRIDAY to you!

re: #85 Floral Giraffe

Did you get the sale?

Hell yes, I got the sale. (they called me back...) That doesn't happen often, when it does... sweeet!

re: #46 livefreeor die

Looks like Obama needs another shiny object.

This is probably related to the Battle of Qala-i-Jangi in November 2001. Taliban prisoners staged an uprising in the ramshackle prison, butchering a CIA officer and a number of Afghan guards and gaining control of the prison armory. They resisted for five days. A few JDAMs and AC-130 strikes were used but the fanatics finally gave up only when the basement where they had been driven was flooded.
Lefties have always made atrocity claims, based on disproportionate force and the alleged execution of some of the prisoners. The Stalinist fossils at the East German communist party made a propaganda video about it within weeks, omitting to mention that the prisoners were very heavily armed. This has percolated through lefty and peace activist circles for some time and it appears that it has finally reached the White House.

re: #98 Floral Giraffe

Thanks!

re: #95 Tman

Yikes! I played the crap out of it until it was scratched on all the best parts. I agree, it's the best batch of live Hendrix I've ever come accross.

I was looking for it a few years ago but couldn't find it.

re: #97 subsailor68

I'd love to see Bach and Gounoud watching that. The intimacy that I think they imagined...with three or four thousand people.

re: #100 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hell yes, I got the sale. (they called me back...) That doesn't happen often, when it does... sweeet!

Drinks are on FBV! :)

re: #101 Shiplord Kirel

This is probably related to the Battle of Qala-i-Jangi in November 2001. Taliban prisoners staged an uprising in the ramshackle prison, butchering a CIA officer and a number of Afghan guards and gaining control of the prison armory. They resisted for five days. A few JDAMs and AC-130 strikes were used but the fanatics finally gave up only when the basement where they had been driven was flooded.
Lefties have always made atrocity claims, based on disproportionate force and the alleged execution of some of the prisoners. The Stalinist fossils at the East German communist party made a propaganda video about it within weeks, omitting to mention that the prisoners were very heavily armed. This has percolated through lefty and peace activist circles for some time and it appears that it has finally reached the White House.

Has anyone in the White House bothered to think about how addressing this now increases sentiment against our soldiers and provides propaganda for the Taliban?

re: #105 Floral Giraffe

Drinks are on FBV! :)

SCREW YOU GUYS! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE!

(whaddya want?)

re: #107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

SCREW YOU GUYS! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE!

(whaddya want?)

What are you...some kind of capitalist? = )

re: #107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

SCREW YOU GUYS! MINE! MINE! MINE! MINE!

(whaddya want?)

Beer and a shot of bourbon please.

re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'd love to see Bach and Gounoud watching that. The intimacy that I think they imagined...with three or four thousand people.

As we say here in Texas, that's a "no shit Sherlock"...they'd both be incredibly amazed at what folks they'd probably never imagined in those numbers paying homage to their incredible music. Couldn't agree with ya more.

And just for fun...here's Carlos Montoya - no direct connection, but it's something I think ya might like!!

re: #97 subsailor68

I am very glad you enjoyed it. To me it is just fantastic...and unique.

I loved his line, "If you are Jewish and don't want to sing the 'Ave Maria', you can sing the "Oy Vey Maria". Very clever joke (may have been written for him, but that's okay).

re: #107 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Basil Hayden's? I've never tried it!

re: #110 subsailor68

HECK YEAH!

BTW, I adapted Schubert's "Ave Maria" to the Protestant Hymn "Fairest Lord Jesus".

That way I was allowed to sing one of Natures "Perfect Melodies" and still be a Baptist!

FBV, can I change my order?

I've posted this before. Probably the most badass, nasty blues guitar ever recorded:

re: #112 Floral Giraffe

It expensive? Then no.

G'night, Nation of Lizlam.

re: #117 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

G'night, Nation of Lizlam.

Gnite...we gotta have lunch again sometime.

re: #106 livefreeor die

Has anyone in the White House bothered to think about how addressing this now increases sentiment against our soldiers and provides propaganda for the Taliban?

They don't care. Obama needs to placate the left and blame Bush. If that gets some people who he doesn't like killed, that does not bother him, thus proving yet again that he is indeed a Fucking Commie Bastard.

Also, those who claim disproportionate force should shut up. The Taliban in that prison surrendered on terms that they would not be killed or summarily executed. They then violated those terms. There was no reason for the Northern Alliance to risk its troops retaking the prison, and its would have been a betrayal of their men for the NA commanders to have put their men in greater danger for the sake of treacherous enemies.

re: #106 livefreeor die

Has anyone in the White House bothered to think about how addressing this now increases sentiment against our soldiers and provides propaganda for the Taliban?

We did Afghanistan the first time with two well funded CIA operatives and one military FAC, now we're at 38,000 troops, seasoned commanders are asking for more, and progress in the mountains and with the population is hard to come by.

/throughout recorded history, Afghanistan has proved to be a cruel mistress, at a certain point you have to take a hard look at Pakistan

re: #119 Dark_Falcon

They don't care. Obama needs to placate the left and blame Bush. If that gets some people who he doesn't like killed, that does not bother him, thus proving yet again that he is indeed a Fucking Commie Bastard.

Also, those who claim disproportionate force should shut up. The Taliban in that prison surrendered on terms that they would not be killed or summarily executed. They then violated those terms. There was no reason for the Northern Alliance to risk its troops retaking the prison, and its would have been a betrayal of their men for the NA commanders to have put their men in greater danger for the sake of treacherous enemies.

I don't neccesarily think that "disproportionate force" is a bad thing...isn't just a way to make "superior firepower" sound bad?

Charles, have you heard Chickenfoot's album? I haven't heard it yet, just saw signs for it last month, at Best Buy.

re: #113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

HECK YEAH!

BTW, I adapted Schubert's "Ave Maria" to the Protestant Hymn "Fairest Lord Jesus".

That way I was allowed to sing one of Natures "Perfect Melodies" and still be a Baptist!

Saw your sign-off a few posts ago, but just gotta leave ya a message. I'd love to hear your adaptation of that!!

Sleep well!

Here a great guitar jam by Roy Buchanan, one of my favorite guitar players.

And now for something completely different;

re: #121 srb1976

I don't neccesarily think that "disproportionate force" is a bad thing...isn't just a way to make "superior firepower" sound bad?

That's it exactly: To the hard left, those things that keep anti-American forces from winning are evil and therefore they will try to call them war crimes. That the actual law does not support this is irrelevant, only the end matters to them and it justifies the means.

/bastards

re: #121 srb1976

I don't neccesarily think that "disproportionate force" is a bad thing...isn't just a way to make "superior firepower" sound bad?

Unilateral= independent

is replacing bad words with words to serve our noble cause, comrade

Ok folks, gotta get up in a few hours...
Have a great night, see ya in a few hours = )

re: #128 srb1976

Sweet dreams.

re: #121 srb1976

Probably in poor taste to imagine John Wayne telling the calvery not to use rifles on Indians who only had bows and arrows.
Politically incorrect. I apologize in advance for any offence perceived.

Hello Night Lizards! It is mild and dark in Near Iowa tonite.

I'm not feeling good about this coming week. I may hibernate.

There is an argument that the Heller decision reserved the right to regulate "arms" to the States. If that is the case, then the States have the right to regulate Free Speech, establish a State Religion and so on.

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

Didja ever have a road trip like this?

day by day

Funny

re: #131 ggt

She'll probably be confirmed and she's probably a good qualified judge. Try not to get too wound up about this stuff. We aren't looking at the end of the world and things aren't as bad as they seem.

re: #131 ggt

Hi there ggt. I'm just mostly lurking & watching the tele. Good to see ya.

re: #134 Killgore Trout

She'll probably be confirmed and she's probably a good qualified judge. Try not to get too wound up about this stuff. We aren't looking at the end of the world and things aren't as bad as they seem.

No it won't be the end of the world. Just another nail it's coffin.

Sorry, I don't think she is a good choice.

re: #135 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hi there ggt. I'm just mostly lurking & watching the tele. Good to see ya.

Hey you! How you doin'?

Good evening y'all - I hope everyone's doing well tonight!
What are we talking about?

re: #131 ggt

Hello Night Lizards! It is mild and dark in Near Iowa tonite.

I'm not feeling good about this coming week. I may hibernate.

There is an argument that the Heller decision reserved the right to regulate "arms" to the States. If that is the case, then the States have the right to regulate Free Speech, establish a State Religion and so on.

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

Hi ggt! Heller is an incredibly interesting decision, in that it defines the Second Amendment as providing for individual rights, then cautions us to remember that it only applies to the Federal Government (as the case was brought in the District of Columbia - which is administered by the Feds.)

But, if Heller is that narrowly defined, the idea of the Second Amendment being an individual right means absolutely nothing so long as the States are not bound by it. If that's the case (no pun intended), then the Draconian firearm restrictions in certain parts of the country (think Chicago) are perfectly Constitutional.

And if that's the case - at least to my mind - the entire Bill of Rights means nothing at all, so long as the States - who, by the way, signed on to the Constitution - can toss 'em all if they so desire.

What a conundrum for those of us who want limited Federal government, but don't want the rights (even keeping the 10th amendment in mind) turned completely over to State governments - such as California!

re: #137 ggt

Hey you! How you doin'?

I'm fine. Spent half the afternoon on the phone with my poor SIL. Their bratty 18 yr old daughter traded her 2001 Mustang Convertible for $600.00 and an old 85 Toyota mini pickup, with broken windows, that doesn't run. OMG it makes me so thankful our child came out good.

re: #136 ggt

No it won't be the end of the world. Just another nail it's coffin.

Sorry, I don't think she is a good choice.

/certainly unremarkable for a Supreme Court nomination

re: #96 Killian Bundy

The employers pay the premium, not the employees, and no, there's no employee deduction from their paycheck to pay for it.

/there in lies the disconnect

So it's technically an employee benefit, not a gift? Seeing as it's paid in your behalf for services rendered?

re: #136 ggt

No it won't be the end of the world. Just another nail it's coffin.

Sorry, I don't think she is a good choice.

Still, we should be smart in questioning her. We should get our ideas out there and find out how she thinks. But then having done that, we should let her be confirmed without a big stink. I don't like her much either, but she's going to be confirmed and therefore we should save our political capital for fights we can win.

re: #142 ShanghaiEd

So it's technically an employee benefit, not a gift? Seeing as it's paid in your behalf for services rendered?

It's a government mandate.

/when's the last time you signed off on a payroll?

re: #139 subsailor68
Hi there sub! That's an interesting analysis! But certain portions of the Bill of Rights have been brought to bear on the States; that is to say some of those rights that the Bill of Rights protects us from the Federal Government have also been extended to protect us from State governments. See, for example the 14th Amendment. I think Heller was based PURELY on Federal law PURELY because it was, literally, a Federal case.
But keep in mind that the Constitution enumerates certain specified powers to the Federal Government and "provides that powers that the Constitution does not delegate to the United States and does not prohibit the States from exercising, are "reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." [emphasis added realwest].
It is not inconceivable with the current court (or even if Sotomayor is confirmed, she'd just be replacing Souter anyway) that a case on the 2nd Amendment could come along wherein the SCOTUS might not say "NO to the Fed government regulating - e.g., Heller and prohibit the States from prohibiting, leaving it to the people.
Nonetheless, I'd much rather have a Constitutional Amendment on the Second Amendment, clarifying that individuals do indeed have the right to bear arms.

re: #144 Killian Bundy

It's a government mandate.

/when's the last time you signed off on a payroll?

That reminds me I have to dig out the payroll records. Insurance audit tomorrow for our little business.

re: #139 subsailor68

Hi ggt! Heller is an incredibly interesting decision, in that it defines the Second Amendment as providing for individual rights, then cautions us to remember that it only applies to the Federal Government (as the case was brought in the District of Columbia - which is administered by the Feds.)

But, if Heller is that narrowly defined, the idea of the Second Amendment being an individual right means absolutely nothing so long as the States are not bound by it. If that's the case (no pun intended), then the Draconian firearm restrictions in certain parts of the country (think Chicago) are perfectly Constitutional.

And if that's the case - at least to my mind - the entire Bill of Rights means nothing at all, so long as the States - who, by the way, signed on to the Constitution - can toss 'em all if they so desire.

What a conundrum for those of us who want limited Federal government, but don't want the rights (even keeping the 10th amendment in mind) turned completely over to State governments - such as California!

Yes, and the next round of legal gymnastics begins!

re: #140 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'm fine. Spent half the afternoon on the phone with my poor SIL. Their bratty 18 yr old daughter traded her 2001 Mustang Convertible for $600.00 and an old 85 Toyota mini pickup, with broken windows, that doesn't run. OMG it makes me so thankful our child came out good.

Oh dear.

re: #144 Killian Bundy

It's a government mandate.

/when's the last time you signed off on a payroll?

How about "mandated employee benefit"?

I'm just concerned about the slippage of the language, into the loaded word "gift." (DF, in #39, to which I was responding)

They don't give the "gift" unless you're working for it, right? Sounds to me like a benefit, mandated or not.

Thought experiment: is the 40-hour week a "gift"?

re: #141 Killian Bundy

/certainly unremarkable for a Supreme Court nomination

HISTORIC!

/because it is so important.

I terminated hundreds of employees or, more accurately, let them wither on the vine until they figured it out for themselves.

/I have a record of one unemployment claim after many thousands of employees

Everything is amazing, nobody is happy...

re: #148 ggt

Oh dear.

And to make things worse I think she got the truck for her loser boyfriend who keeps trying to dump her. The creeps who "bought" the car told my bil he can buy it back for $5200.00 plus $1200.00 delivery. It is already out of the area. I think they should forget it and have her ride the bus.

re: #149 ShanghaiEd

How about "mandated employee benefit"?

I'm just concerned about the slippage of the language, into the loaded word "gift." (DF, in #39, to which I was responding)

They don't give the "gift" unless you're working for it, right? Sounds to me like a benefit, mandated or not.

Thought experiment: is the 40-hour week a "gift"?

/what the hell are you talking about?

re: #145 realwest

Hi there sub! That's an interesting analysis! But certain portions of the Bill of Rights have been brought to bear on the States; that is to say some of those rights that the Bill of Rights protects us from the Federal Government have also been extended to protect us from State governments. See, for example the 14th Amendment. I think Heller was based PURELY on Federal law PURELY because it was, literally, a Federal case.
But keep in mind that the Constitution enumerates certain specified powers to the Federal Government and "provides that powers that the Constitution does not delegate to the United States and does not prohibit the States from exercising, are "reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." [emphasis added realwest].
It is not inconceivable with the current court (or even if Sotomayor is confirmed, she'd just be replacing Souter anyway) that a case on the 2nd Amendment could come along wherein the SCOTUS might not say "NO to the Fed government regulating - e.g., Heller and prohibit the States from prohibiting, leaving it to the people.
Nonetheless, I'd much rather have a Constitutional Amendment on the Second Amendment, clarifying that individuals do indeed have the right to bear arms.

Hi RW!!! It's so good to see ya here this evening. Hope you're up because you're feeling feisty, not because ya just can't sleep!! (Well, like me.)

Okay, I think you've hit it on the head! It's - as you say - the rights allocated to "the people" that will tell the tale. (And I think we may - before all is said and done have - if not a Constitutional Amendment - at least a clarification of the individual's rights with respect to the 2nd before you and I are gone!!)

re: #145 realwest

Hi there sub! That's an interesting analysis! But certain portions of the Bill of Rights have been brought to bear on the States; that is to say some of those rights that the Bill of Rights protects us from the Federal Government have also been extended to protect us from State governments. See, for example the 14th Amendment. I think Heller was based PURELY on Federal law PURELY because it was, literally, a Federal case.
But keep in mind that the Constitution enumerates certain specified powers to the Federal Government and "provides that powers that the Constitution does not delegate to the United States and does not prohibit the States from exercising, are "reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." [emphasis added realwest].
It is not inconceivable with the current court (or even if Sotomayor is confirmed, she'd just be replacing Souter anyway) that a case on the 2nd Amendment could come along wherein the SCOTUS might not say "NO to the Fed government regulating - e.g., Heller and prohibit the States from prohibiting, leaving it to the people.
Nonetheless, I'd much rather have a Constitutional Amendment on the Second Amendment, clarifying that individuals do indeed have the right to bear arms.

IIRC, the controversy over the Bill of Rights in which the Framers engaged, the (anti-federalists?) argued that it was redundent to guarantee pre-existing rights.

While I definitely believe we need the Bill of Rights, I see so many people believing that they "give" rights, not guarantee them.

Our way of government, IMHO is so simple, yet for those who don't study history, difficult to conceive.

Question of the day:
Is Obama stupid? Or is he out to bankrupt the USA?
I don't think he's stupid, so what is his motive?

re: #153 Pvt Bin Jammin

And to make things worse I think she got the truck for her loser boyfriend who keeps trying to dump her. The creeps who "bought" the car told my bil he can buy it back for $5200.00 plus $1200.00 delivery. It is already out of the area. I think they should forget it and have her ride the bus.

Time to call a lawyer, or the at least file a complaint with the attorney general.

re: #149 ShanghaiEd

How about "mandated employee benefit"?

I'm just concerned about the slippage of the language, into the loaded word "gift." (DF, in #39, to which I was responding)

They don't give the "gift" unless you're working for it, right? Sounds to me like a benefit, mandated or not.

Thought experiment: is the 40-hour week a "gift"?

"Mandated employee benefit" works well for me. That would fall into the category of Positive Liberties as I defined them. That would not, in and of itself, make it a bad thing, however. But it does expand government power, and that is seldom a good thing.

re: #154 Killian Bundy

/what the hell are you talking about?

The choice of words. See my Paragraph 2.

re: #158 ggt

Time to call a lawyer, or the at least file a complaint with the attorney general.

Don't worry, I think something will be done. My bil is one of the top prosecutors in Los Angeles County LOLOLOLOL

re: #157 JohnAdams

Big secret: He's doing what he thinks is best and he's doing the best job he can.
/Shhh

re: #161 Pvt Bin Jammin

Don't worry, I think something will be done. My bil is one of the top prosecutors in Los Angeles County LOLOLOLOL

Sweet irony!

re: #157 JohnAdams

Question of the day:
Is Obama stupid? Or is he out to bankrupt the USA?
I don't think he's stupid, so what is his motive?

He sees socialism as superior to our existing social system, and he aims to put it into place as much as is possible.

re: #151 Killian Bundy

I terminated hundreds of employees or, more accurately, let them wither on the vine until they figured it out for themselves.

/I have a record of one unemployment claim after many thousands of employees

Hey Killian! Do you attribute that to those former employees being able to find new employment quickly, ignorance on their part that they could apply for uninsurance benefits or just luck?

re: #162 Killgore Trout

Down ding. If he were doing the best job he could, he would not be trying to spend so much money all at once. Regardless of the direction of his policies, his spending is reckless and indefensible.

re: #156 ggt

IIRC, the controversy over the Bill of Rights in which the Framers engaged, the (anti-federalists?) argued that it was redundent to guarantee pre-existing rights.

While I definitely believe we need the Bill of Rights, I see so many people believing that they "give" rights, not guarantee them.

Our way of government, IMHO is so simple, yet for those who don't study history, difficult to conceive.

Couldn't agree with ya more ggt! Whether it was Adams, Jefferson, Paine, Hamilton, Madison, - hardly matters. The Founders were clearly all in favor of the rights of the individual, and from whence they came.

It took 233 plus years for us to elect morons who were only interested in how they could use the Interstate Commerce clause to bring us to the point where we no longer argue whether the government has the right to infringe on indivdual liberty, to to what extent.

re: #163 ggt

Sweet irony!

Indeed, but I know how sad they are that their kid turned out to be the way she is. She has put them through a lot and they were very devoted parents.

re: #162 Killgore Trout

Big secret: He's doing what he thinks is best and he's doing the best job he can.
/Shhh

So then he is stupid.
/No disrespect. It's like taking apart a Lamborghini and telling you he's going to build a better sports car.

re: #165 realwest

Hey Killian! Do you attribute that to those former employees being able to find new employment quickly, ignorance on their part that they could apply for uninsurance benefits or just luck?

/calculated downsizing of participation, at a certain point they all realized, hey, I don't really work here anymore and left voluntarily

re: #168 Pvt Bin Jammin

Indeed, but I know how sad they are that their kid turned out to be the way she is. She has put them through a lot and they were very devoted parents.

What are you gonna do?

re: #169 JohnAdams

So then he is stupid.
/No disrespect. It's like taking apart a Lamborghini and telling you he's going to build a better sports car.

Quite Concur.

re: #159 Dark_Falcon

"Mandated employee benefit" works well for me. That would fall into the category of Positive Liberties as I defined them. That would not, in and of itself, make it a bad thing, however. But it does expand government power, and that is seldom a good thing.

Great. That works for me, too.

Not sure I see how it "expands government power," though. Power over who? Isn't the government just making the transaction between the parties?

re: #161 Pvt Bin Jammin

Go get them!

Joe Satriani is a fucking king.

re: #173 ShanghaiEd

Great. That works for me, too.

Not sure I see how it "expands government power," though. Power over who? Isn't the government just making the transaction between the parties?

I thought the geniuses at Harvard decided that the Constitution was a document "of negative liberties."

re: #166 Dark_Falcon

Down ding. If he were doing the best job he could, he would not be trying to spend so much money all at once. Regardless of the direction of his policies, his spending is reckless and indefensible.

Hi Dark_Falcon - someone posted out here, towards the end of last week, that with the actions taken so far by Obama and the Dems, the Federal government has pretty well taken over the Automobile industry, the Banking industry, the Financial Services Industry, soon to be the Energy (Utilities) industry and perhaps the HealthCare industry which, combined, equals approximately 39% of GNP. From HIS socialist perspective it was or will be money well spent.

re: #171 ggt

What are you gonna do?

To be honest I think they are ready to do the tough love thing. Nothing else has worked. I do hope there is a way to get those "buyers" in trouble but I would not rebuy that car and give it back to her. I told them it was time for a bus pass.

re: #162 Killgore Trout

Big secret: He's doing what he thinks is best and he's doing the best job he can.
/Shhh

Dagnabbit!
Sometimes I have to agree with Kilgore Trout!
And, I do here.

re: #176 JohnAdams

I thought the geniuses at Harvard decided that the Constitution was a document "of negative liberties."

They may well have. They never call or write me.

re: #173 ShanghaiEd

Great. That works for me, too.

Not sure I see how it "expands government power," though. Power over who? Isn't the government just making the transaction between the parties?

The government is mandating the transaction. The Government can also expand the length of time an employer has to provide benefits. The government's ability to mandate an employer's expenditure is a power over his property. Again, that does not make it wrong, but it is government power.

re: #176 JohnAdams

I thought the geniuses at Harvard decided that the Constitution was a document "of negative liberties."

They did. Even Barney Frank sees it that way, though unlike Obama, he does not attack it for being that way.

re: #170 Killian Bundy

/calculated downsizing of participation, at a certain point they all realized, hey, I don't really work here anymore and left voluntarily

Whoa, pretty smooth! But really, that musta been a time when those folks could find other employment; hell I've know people so marginalized by their employers they only really showed up at work to get a paycheck. IF, OTOH, they could find employment where they would feel part of everything going on, I'd think they'd leave voluntarily.

re: #178 Pvt Bin Jammin

To be honest I think they are ready to do the tough love thing. Nothing else has worked. I do hope there is a way to get those "buyers" in trouble but I would not rebuy that car and give it back to her. I told them it was time for a bus pass.

Perhaps time to kick her out of the nest?

re: #177 realwest

Hi Dark_Falcon - someone posted out here, towards the end of last week, that with the actions taken so far by Obama and the Dems, the Federal government has pretty well taken over the Automobile industry, the Banking industry, the Financial Services Industry, soon to be the Energy (Utilities) industry and perhaps the HealthCare industry which, combined, equals approximately 39% of GNP. From HIS socialist perspective it was or will be money well spent.

He won't get either the Energy or Health Care industries, or not in the main he won't. Cap and Trade will die in the Senate, and I predict that Health Care will be massively watered-down.

re: #174 Floral Giraffe

Go get them!

Here's a little song for my niece. She might not have her Mustang but I still have mine. Hope she likes her broken down truck. LOL

re: #180 ShanghaiEd
ROFL! Good evening SE! How are you doing tonight?

re: #185 Dark_Falcon

He won't get either the Energy or Health Care industries, or not in the main he won't. Cap and Trade will die in the Senate, and I predict that Health Care will be massively watered-down.

Let us pray!

re: #186 Pvt Bin Jammin

I had a 1966 with the 429 engine. Sadly, stolen & never recovered. It was a sweet car. Vroom, vroom.

Sorry to hear of your niece's troubles. Hang in there!

Never fire someone outright.

/gradually reduce thier participation to the point where they can't economically survive and they'll go elsewhere voluntarily, you can even give them a reference, no unemployment claims

re: #177 realwest

Hi Dark_Falcon - someone posted out here, towards the end of last week, that with the actions taken so far by Obama and the Dems, the Federal government has pretty well taken over the Automobile industry, the Banking industry, the Financial Services Industry, soon to be the Energy (Utilities) industry and perhaps the HealthCare industry which, combined, equals approximately 39% of GNP. From HIS socialist perspective it was or will be money well spent.

Buy low, sell high? Sounds like good capitalist entrepreneurs, to me. :)

re: #188 realwest

Let us pray!

That's all I can do. But I'm going to have those of my relatives who live in states with Senators who can be pressured apply said pressure and help make them vote against Obama.

re: #178 Pvt Bin Jammin

To be honest I think they are ready to do the tough love thing. Nothing else has worked. I do hope there is a way to get those "buyers" in trouble but I would not rebuy that car and give it back to her. I told them it was time for a bus pass.

Consequences must be real.

It might do the kid some good if everyone in her life were to look at the poor choice she has made and say nothing and do nothing. Let her live with it and own it.

She has by that action declared her independence. Let her have it in full measure.

re: #178 Pvt Bin Jammin

To be honest I think they are ready to do the tough love thing. Nothing else has worked. I do hope there is a way to get those "buyers" in trouble but I would not rebuy that car and give it back to her. I told them it was time for a bus pass.

Hi PvtBinJammin! Only glanced through the other posts, but it looks - to me- like you've hit upon it. It's the best solution...to buy back - or replace - the object of her bad decision would only reinforce the idea that she could make the same - or similar - bad decision again. A few months on the bus may accomplish two things:

1. She may value the responsibility attached to owning her own mode of transportation and/or,
2. She may meet some wonderful folks who aren't as fortunate as she is, but have a higher set of personal standards. and learn from them.

(Well, okay, she may meet some lowlifes too - but that's a form of education as well.)

Either way, you're a pretty impressive young lady I might say.

;-)

re: #187 realwest

ROFL! Good evening SE! How are you doing tonight?

Greetings, RW! I can't complain a bit. Even had a brief Sunday rain, which was badly needed. How are you feeling?

re: #189 Floral Giraffe

I had a 1966 with the 429 engine. Sadly, stolen & never recovered. It was a sweet car. Vroom, vroom.

Sorry to hear of your niece's troubles. Hang in there!

Thanks.

That "66 must have been great. I had a "65 GTO back in the day. Fun times!
Now I just have a six cylinder. LOL

Thanks for your concern.

re: #189 Floral Giraffe
Hi Floral Giraffe - I think you may have had a 'vette with a 429 (that was an old GM block) or the Mustang with the 289.
I had a honey of a 1967 Mustang 289!

re: #177 realwest

Hi Dark_Falcon - someone posted out here, towards the end of last week, that with the actions taken so far by Obama and the Dems, the Federal government has pretty well taken over the Automobile industry, the Banking industry, the Financial Services Industry, soon to be the Energy (Utilities) industry and perhaps the HealthCare industry which, combined, equals approximately 39% of GNP. From HIS socialist perspective it was or will be money well spent.

I don't know what compels anyone to want to invest in anything in that environment. America is not like Europe. We invest in things that work, and we don't give a shit about culture. Investment will be going to China, India, and the other Asian nations who are not dogmatic. This is a national economic catastrophe that is happening here.

re: #179 Floral Giraffe

That's why ODS and BDS are the same thing. They've turned their political opponent into an evil characature instead of someone they disagree with. They can't understand that anyone could possibly have a different opinion or viewpoint other than their own. They think that they're going to be rounded up into camps, their guns and rights taken away in some sort of evil plot. It's really a bummer to see such a loss of perspective.

re: #195 ShanghaiEd
I'm doing ok, though the clock says it's 1:20 AM and its still 83 degrees and I HATE to sleep with the A/C on.

re: #194 subsailor68

Hi PvtBinJammin! Only glanced through the other posts, but it looks - to me- like you've hit upon it. It's the best solution...to buy back - or replace - the object of her bad decision would only reinforce the idea that she could make the same - or similar - bad decision again. A few months on the bus may accomplish two things:

1. She may value the responsibility attached to owning her own mode of transportation and/or,
2. She may meet some wonderful folks who aren't as fortunate as she is, but have a higher set of personal standards. and learn from them.

(Well, okay, she may meet some lowlifes too - but that's a form of education as well.)

Either way, you're a pretty impressive young lady I might say.

;-)

Thanks. I so hope you are right. So far she is not getting it at all, though she will give lip service for a time.

re: #197 realwest

LOL!
What's a Florall Giraffe supposed to know about engines?
Dad took a Ferrari up to 4th gear in it, then he said it was "OK" for me to buy it! It was $1250 in 1978. I loved that car...

re: #197 realwest

Hi Floral Giraffe - I think you may have had a 'vette with a 429 (that was an old GM block) or the Mustang with the 289.
I had a honey of a 1967 Mustang 289!

Oh dude. you're such a car suck!! (Okay, fine, me too!). That's a sweet car - that 67 Mustang 289! I did have a 66 GTO...bronze (okay, gold), black leather interior, 3 speed with the Hurst shift, 389, walnut dash...

and my first true love - a girl named Gretchen.

I'd trade the GTO in a heartbeat ...but Gretchen was special.

:-)

re: #199 Killgore Trout

That's why ODS and BDS are the same thing. They've turned their political opponent into an evil characature instead of someone they disagree with. They can't understand that anyone could possibly have a different opinion or viewpoint other than their own. They think that they're going to be rounded up into camps, their guns and rights taken away in some sort of evil plot. It's really a bummer to see such a loss of perspective.

Must concur with that. I think Obama is leading America down a bad road, and doing a bad job of the leading at that, but he's not planning forced labor camps or roundups of those who disagree with him. We need to keep our eyes on Obama as he really is, only in that way can we fight him successfully.

re: #199 Killgore Trout

They think that they're going to be rounded up into camps, their guns and rights taken away in some sort of evil plot.

That reminded me to go check out the WND for the latest conspiracy... and now someone (Kovacs) thinks they have discovered something important because President Obama's wiki entry has been changed several times in a day, on where he was born.

Boy, what a scam...

Obama is a true believer in socialism which will explain his actions. And that's all I got to say about that.

Kim Jong-Il diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.

re: #198 JohnAdams
You mean you can't wait to buy a Government Motors car?! LOL!
I must say I agree with what you've said. We can hope, but honestly, there isn't much that the government does that private enterprise can't do cheaper and better.

Oh - and here's a conflict of interest question for you.
In the old days, if the UAW was having trouble with their contract with say, General Motors, they'd go on strike and sometimes go on strike against Ford or Chrysler as well. Now that the UAW is gonna own 17% of the New General Motors stock, would they EVER strike at GM? And if they decided to strike at Ford, would they try to get GM involved in the strike as well?

re: #202 Floral Giraffe

OMG What a great car you had. I went from that GTO to an MGA. 30 whole horsepower! I was living in the SF bay area and driving home over Donner Summit (to see my folks) in that thing. It was cute, though, but the trip took forever.

Holy shit, that was an impressive guitar solo!!!

re: #200 realwest

I'm doing ok, though the clock says it's 1:20 AM and its still 83 degrees and I HATE to sleep with the A/C on.

I mostly leave at least the fan running. The white noise drowns out any hallway noise. On a Friday night its a big sleep saver.

re: #190 Killian Bundy

Never fire someone outright.

/gradually reduce thier participation to the point where they can't economically survive and they'll go elsewhere voluntarily, you can even give them a reference, no unemployment claims

Unless you catch someone red handed, ripping you off. Employed to out the door in less than a minute.

/then feel free to make a example for other employees, pressing criminal charges is pretty much futile, but they'll never dare claiming unemployment

re: #207 TheMatrix31

Kim Jong-Il diagnosed with pancreatic cancer.

Playing with plutonium . . .

The Designated heir seems a bit young to assume power. I wonder what the odds are that there will be a coup shortly after the Kim Jong-Il drops.

re: #199 Killgore Trout

Call me old fashioned, but what happened to civil discourse of ideas?
Why can't we have civilized discussions, anymore? I really mean this.

re: #213 Syrah

Playing with plutonium . . .

The Designated heir seems a bit young to assume power. I wonder what the odds are that there will be a coup shortly after the Kim Jong-Il drops.

I feel dirty rooting for it, but I hope it's quick.

Speaking of sleep, its time I went to bed. Goodnight, all.

re: #203 subsailor68
Ah sub - mine was a '67 coupe (didn't like the hatchbacks until 1968 - think Steve Mcqueen's mustang in Bullet) - with a 289, 4bbl carb, Hurst shifter, burgundy color, black vinyl interior and black vinyl "landau" roof. Man that sucker could MOVE!

re: #212 Killian Bundy

We caught an embezzler & prosecuted. He got probation and restitution. Never saw a thin dime but when the IRS came looking for him I was helpful.

re: #204 Dark_Falcon

Must concur with that. I think Obama is leading America down a bad road, and doing a bad job of the leading at that, but he's not planning forced labor camps or roundups of those who disagree with him. We need to keep our eyes on Obama as he really is, only in that way can we fight him successfully.

I agree that we can't paint the guy like the left painted Bush, as a maniacal Hitler figure--but only because it is a distraction that paints us as crazy reactionaries. At the same time, I really don't see how the Obama policies set forth in the last six months set the country on a course that will not end in bankruptcy. They are hell bent on hamstringing the economic engine that--if it were to operate on levels that they themselves found indulgent--could never support the orgiastic spending and entitlements that they propose as mainstays of American life well into the future.

It is like taking the stud swimmer, cutting off his arms, and telling him to go break Michael Phelps's records. If you don't see this as fucking nuts, you're fucking nuts.

re: #215 TheMatrix31

I feel dirty rooting for it, but I hope it's quick.

Kim Jong-Il has done much evil.

His passing will not be a bad thing.

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

Speaking of sleep, its time I went to bed. Goodnight, all.

Sweet dreams.

re: #220 Syrah

Kim Jong-Il has done much evil.

His passing will not be a bad thing.

I know, but I was raised never to wish death on anyone. I have a hard time even saying the words.

re: #220 Syrah

Kim Jong-Il has done much evil.

His passing will not be a bad thing.

May God have mercy on his soul: I don't need to.

re: #214 Floral Giraffe

Call me old fashioned, but what happened to civil discourse of ideas?
Why can't we have civilized discussions, anymore? I really mean this.

I'm not sure it ever existed. Partisans have probably been losing their minds since we were wandering the Savannah.

re: #213 Syrah

Playing with plutonium . . .

The Designated heir seems a bit young to assume power. I wonder what the odds are that there will be a coup shortly after the Kim Jong-Il drops.

Hey Syrah - that is the million dollar (or these days, I guess Trillion dollar question) and my money's on the military pulling a coup. I read somewhere that the NORK military, although treated better than the NORK civilians in terms of food, clothing and shelter, has been getting really restless because their RELATIVES are still starving to death - and at rather alarming rates.

re: #214 Floral Giraffe

Call me old fashioned, but what happened to civil discourse of ideas?
Why can't we have civilized discussions, anymore? I really mean this.

Floral, I can't speak for anyone but myself, but you can count on me for nothing OTHER than a civilized discussion. I learn from good folks - like you - even if I have to, very, very rarely give up my preconceptions.

Okay, fine, maybe more often that rarely, rarely. Sigh.

:-)

re: #218 Pvt Bin Jammin

We caught an embezzler & prosecuted. He got probation and restitution. Never saw a thin dime but when the IRS came looking for him I was helpful.

LOL! I just spit wine on the keyboard! I BET you were helpful! LOL!

re: #208 realwest

You mean you can't wait to buy a Government Motors car?! LOL!
I must say I agree with what you've said. We can hope, but honestly, there isn't much that the government does that private enterprise can't do cheaper and better.

Oh - and here's a conflict of interest question for you.
In the old days, if the UAW was having trouble with their contract with say, General Motors, they'd go on strike and sometimes go on strike against Ford or Chrysler as well. Now that the UAW is gonna own 17% of the New General Motors stock, would they EVER strike at GM? And if they decided to strike at Ford, would they try to get GM involved in the strike as well?

real, and you are imagining this as a fair-play system, which of course it will never be. Government bureaucrats will have their hooks firmly set into GM and Chrysler, and it creates a "competition" disadvantage for Ford that is unimaginable.

re: #211 Dark_Falcon
Sigh - I have a fan - well, ok an air cleaner and it sounds like a propeller driven (or pulled) aircraft even on the low speed.

re: #214 Floral Giraffe

Call me old fashioned, but what happened to civil discourse of ideas?
Why can't we have civilized discussions, anymore? I really mean this.

Because the rest of the world isn't on LGF.

re: #215 TheMatrix31

I feel dirty rooting for it, but I hope it's quick.

I hope that fucker is beaten to death by a thousand of the young girls he turned into hookers for his troops.

re: #227 Floral Giraffe

LOL! I just spit wine on the keyboard! I BET you were helpful! LOL!

Down in the comments section of the form I wrote: "Mr.___ embezzled a bare minimum of $5,000.00 from us and we never saw a thin dime in restitution. Best of luck IRS!"

re: #224 Killgore Trout

I'm not sure it ever existed. Partisans have probably been losing their minds since we were wandering the Savannah.

Do you think the Founding Fathers had civilized discussions? Or they got their partisian knickers in knots? Or they were united against a common enemy? I just do NOT understand this villification of "our" elected officials. I get that we "disagree". I do NOT inderstand that the "other" viewpoint is "criminal".

re: #232 Pvt Bin Jammin

Down in the comments section of the form I wrote: "Mr.___ embezzled a bare minimum of $5,000.00 from us and we never saw a thin dime in restitution. Best of luck IRS!"

Did you get a tax write off??? :)

re: #217 realwest

Ah sub - mine was a '67 coupe (didn't like the hatchbacks until 1968 - think Steve Mcqueen's mustang in Bullet) - with a 289, 4bbl carb, Hurst shifter, burgundy color, black vinyl interior and black vinyl "landau" roof. Man that sucker could MOVE!

Now that was sweet!! Here's a thought: as old as we are, we had that. I cringe when I think of what our children and grandchildren will have to brag about:

"Dude, I had a Prius that got almost 30 mpg in the city. It was a chick-magnet!! Those cloth seats - you'd never sweat - and just watching the babes monitor that gas gauge. Ahh, those were the good days!"

re: #219 JohnAdams

I agree that we can't paint the guy like the left painted Bush, as a maniacal Hitler figure--but only because it is a distraction that paints us as crazy reactionaries. At the same time, I really don't see how the Obama policies set forth in the last six months set the country on a course that will not end in bankruptcy. They are hell bent on hamstringing the economic engine that--if it were to operate on levels that they themselves found indulgent--could never support the orgiastic spending and entitlements that they propose as mainstays of American life well into the future.

It is like taking the stud swimmer, cutting off his arms, and telling him to go break Michael Phelps's records. If you don't see this as fucking nuts, you're fucking nuts.

Some might say that the economic engine is broken, to the point of needing rebuilding.

Some might say that the stud swimmer has already had his arms cut off, by a bunch of crooks. Do we pay for the stud swimmer's rehab, or tell him to suck it up and quit whining?

Just another perspective.

re: #225 realwest

Hey Syrah - that is the million dollar (or these days, I guess Trillion dollar question) and my money's on the military pulling a coup. I read somewhere that the NORK military, although treated better than the NORK civilians in terms of food, clothing and shelter, has been getting really restless because their RELATIVES are still starving to death - and at rather alarming rates.

Hope that tomorrow will be better for your children even if not for you is often enough to keep revolution at bay.

When the population, particularly those with the power to do something (the military) no longer believe that tomorrow holds any hope for their children, then they are suddenly free to act because the realize that they have nothing left to lose. It is a Ceauşescu moment, when the people cut the state symbol out of their nations flag and rise up.

It could happen in North Korea.

re: #234 Floral Giraffe

Did you get a tax write off??? :)

I was just wondering if we owe taxes on that. We go by the "cash" method rather than the "accrual" method so I think we're cool...hopefully.

re: #236 ShanghaiEd

Some might say that the economic engine is broken, to the point of needing rebuilding.

Some might say that the stud swimmer has already had his arms cut off, by a bunch of crooks. Do we pay for the stud swimmer's rehab, or tell him to suck it up and quit whining?

Just another perspective.

/a very odd one

re: #228 JohnAdams

real, and you are imagining this as a fair-play system, which of course it will never be. Government bureaucrats will have their hooks firmly set into GM and Chrysler, and it creates a "competition" disadvantage for Ford that is unimaginable.

Sorry JohnAdams, I have to disagree with that. I think that with government control (the US is gonna own something like 60% of the stock in the New General Motors) Ford will have a competitive advantage - the Government will NO DOUBT have layers and layers of bureaucracy piled up just on WHO to pick to general design for certain lines of vehicles.
And honestly, would you buy a car from someone who CHANGED from a Jeep to a Hummer?!?

I love Satch. Play two of hie tunes in my set: Tears in the Rain and A Day at the Beach.

Love how he got that excellent feedback harmonic at the very end. Tasty.

re: #217 realwest

Real - my first ride was a '57 Chevy BelAir convertable. Bought it for $500 in 1964. I felt very lucky I was able to use it to get $300 trade-in value on a '66 GTO in 1969. The GTO was fire engine red, red bucket seats, 389 with a 4 speed tranny. I special ordered Michelin steel belted radial tires from France for it. With those tires I could make a right or left hand 90 degree turn at an intersection doing 55 mph and never break traction. With the wide-track and steel belted tires that GTO was glued to the road. Sure wish I had either car today

re: #235 subsailor68

Pssst. Buy an old Mustang & restore it! Treat the kid, well, and yourself ;)

re: #233 Floral Giraffe

Do you think the Founding Fathers had civilized discussions? Or they got their partisian knickers in knots? Or they were united against a common enemy? I just do NOT understand this villification of "our" elected officials. I get that we "disagree". I do NOT inderstand that the "other" viewpoint is "criminal".

Much food for thought, FG.

Here's a question that may, or may not, be related: When's the last time you heard somebody respond to a criticism of the government with, "Love it, or leave it!"?

re: #242 Cheechako

WhooWooo!

Well y'all it's been grand as usual but I gotta try to get to sleep now.
Hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

Always interesting when no one you ever heard of does serious exercise music.

re: #242 Cheechako

Real - my first ride was a '57 Chevy BelAir convertable. Bought it for $500 in 1964. I felt very lucky I was able to use it to get $300 trade-in value on a '66 GTO in 1969. The GTO was fire engine red, red bucket seats, 389 with a 4 speed tranny. I special ordered Michelin steel belted radial tires from France for it. With those tires I could make a right or left hand 90 degree turn at an intersection doing 55 mph and never break traction. With the wide-track and steel belted tires that GTO was glued to the road. Sure wish I had either car today

OMG, you had the pretty one. Mine was red too but a '65. Red line in every gear. I would love to have that baby again but with these gas prices???

One of my favorite Satch songs...LOVE it!

re: #246 realwest

Well y'all it's been grand as usual but I gotta try to get to sleep now.
Hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

Nite, RW. Stay cool...

And as I get ready for sweet dreams I leave y'all this:

re: #246 realwest

Well y'all it's been grand as usual but I gotta try to get to sleep now.
Hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

G'nite Realwest. Sweet dreams.

Dearest Floral, I love you to death!!! But you must understand, I'm a writer. Were I to buy an old Mustang to restore, it would sit, sadly, decomposing on my garage floor - much like the idea of self-determination and individual liberty on the floor of Congress...

until someone rode up, like John Wayne, out of the Western sun, and said,

"Hey, is that a 64 1/2 mustang? What'll ya take for it?"

"Whattya offerin?"

"Five dollars."

"Got change for a ten?"

I had a '69 Camaro. Brand new. Had them change the hubs to hit my price. lol.

re: #251 Irenicum

And as I get ready for sweet dreams I leave y'all this:

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Ah, a touch of Monty! Good night, Irenicum...

re: #248 Pvt Bin Jammin

My GTO had a sad ending. I was off elk hunting and my new wife pulled out at an intersection and had the front end taken off. She was petrified and wanted to get it repaired while I was gone. The insurance company wound up paying to put a '67 GTO front end on it. The car was never the same. And, 38 years later, I still have the same wife!