TwitterFacebook

A Reply to Power Line’s Paul Mirengoff on Geert Wilders

Opinion • Views: 1,368

Paul Mirengoff at Power Line defends Geert Wilders against accusations that he’s a “fascist:” Who are the fascists in Europe?

Read the whole thing for the context of Mirengoff’s argument (he quotes from an article at Brussels Journal, a Belgian blog connected to the far right Vlaams Belang that has published articles favorable to the BNP and other far right groups), but I’ll take issue with this section of the conclusion:

Wilders takes some positions with which I do not agree; for example, banning the Koran. But his general position with respect to Muslims in Dutch society is reasonable, not extreme. He opposes mass immigration, especially from Muslim countries, and wants Muslims to assimilate into a Dutch society.

Just to be clear, I don’t label Wilders as a “fascist,” myself. However, there are two positions he has expressed publicly that should be noted:

  • Wilders advocates banning the Koran as “hate speech,” treating it like Hitler’s Mein Kampf.
  • Wilders advocates stripping Muslims of constitutional rights to freedom of religion. He wants to redefine Islam as a political ideology and make it illegal.

Wilders essentially wants to criminalize Islam itself. It’s hard to see how this equates to simply wanting “Muslims to assimilate into a Dutch society.” You might be able to argue that those positions aren’t “fascist” by a classical definition, but they certainly have more than a whiff of totalitarianism about them.

Everyone is free to make their own decision about where to draw the line.

But this is where I draw it.

Profoundly anti-democratic positions like those, and his associations with extremists in the US and Europe, are why I cannot support Geert Wilders.

Banning books and religions? Nope, sorry, not down with that.

At Power Line, a reader has replied to Paul’s post, disputing Wilders’ claim that the Netherlands is facing “Islamification:”

My credentials: I live in the NL and have for 40 years now.

This piece is a joke, La Pen -> anti-Semite = BAD, Wilders = anti-Islam = GOOD. Just based on this little trick of logic that makes my head spin disqualifies the “writer” of this piece and shows his credentials. Anything after that is just window dressing.

Wilder make statements that make no sense, and are parroted here. Islamification of NL? You have of course checked these numbers, right? I have (happy to send you the spreadsheet) and even after tweaking the parameters to favour Wilders idiocy to the max the Islamification is successful somewhere around the year 3200. Tweaking the parameters back to normal, the answer is: never.

No, Wilders is a populist that will say and do anything to get to power and preying on peoples prejudices is ALL he has. He is loved by certain parts of the US just because he is anti-Islam, and they agree and love him blindly. Mind you, the same folks just hate holocaust deniers, while supporting Wilders is just that, denying the danger of populists.

Yes, we have all seen this before and know where it leads us. Wilders is a nut case and does not deserve to be treated in any other way.

^ back to top ^

TwitterFacebook

Turn off all ads for a full year by subscribing!
Take advantage of our New Year subscription special, and save 25% off the normal subscription price! For a limited time, one-year ad-free subscriptions are just $59.95. Turn off all ads for a full year by subscribing now and save!
Read more...

► LGF Headlines

  • Loading...

► Tweeted Articles

  • Loading...

► Tweeted Pages

  • Loading...

► Top 10 Comments

  • Loading...

► Bottom Comments

  • Loading...

► Recent Comments

  • Loading...

► Tools/Info

► Tag Cloud

► Contact

You must have Javascript enabled to use the contact form.
Your email:

Subject:

Message:


Messages may be published unless you request otherwise.
Tech Note:
Using the Contact Form
LGF Pages

This button leads to the main index of LGF Pages, our user-submitted articles. You can post your own LGF Pages simply by registering a free account with us.

Create a Page

This is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.

Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.

Last updated: 2014-12-15 2:06 pm PST

LGF User's Guide
Recent Pages
Thanos
Religious Land Use Appeal Looks to ‘Hobby Lobby’
Free Registration might be required at the link. In this case the Church wants to use it's land to feed the hungry, and admirable cause, while the city wants to "prevent crime." A federal appeals court on Monday will hear ...

9 hours, 32 minutes ago
Views: 137 • Comments: 1
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 1
SteveMcGaziBolaGate
Sign this petition
Please click on this link and sign the petition if you think this might help:wh.gov we petition the obama administration to:appoint the First Lady to lead the effort to increase vaccination rates for children to 100%. In light of the ...

16 hours, 36 minutes ago
Views: 113 • Comments: 2
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 1
Souliren
Frank Sanatra and Sammy Davis Jr.
More: This is Great Art.Disclaimer: it's an a few still photos of Sinatra and Sammy Davis with an audio track singing Me and my Shadow. Ignore the video. Close your eyes. Everone who participated in this has been a part ...

19 hours, 43 minutes ago
Views: 138 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 1
Rightwingconspirator
Tighten the Rules on E-Cigarettes? Is This Good Oversight?
The state report is not, however, an objective assessment. It obviously includes only the most damaging information about e-cigarettes. For example, some other studies have found potentially encouraging signs that vaping might help some smokers quit. In other words, ...

2 days, 1 hour ago
Views: 282 • Comments: 3
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 6
FemNaziBitch
Mississippi Wouldn’t Allow This Teacher to Show Kids How to Use a Condom. His Simple Solution Is Brilliant.
More: Mississippi Wouldn't Allow This Teacher to Show Kids How to Use a Condom. His Simple Solution Is Brilliant.

2 days, 9 hours ago
Views: 311 • Comments: 1
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 1
Khal Wimpo
Chuck C. Johnson boosting Twitter via fake followers
...in related news, water found to be wet. It's become common for politicians and companies looking to puff up their social profiles to "buy" followers from shady-ass sploggers. Which works when you're starting up, but after you start to get ...

3 days, 18 hours ago
Views: 770 • Comments: 2
Tweets: 149 • Rating: 6
aagcobb
The Average American Household Was Poorer in 2013 Than It Was in 1983 - Vox
Matthew Yglesias, Vox: The Average American Household Was Poorer in 2013 Than It Was in 1983 - Vox US net worth rose considerably over that period, which is what you would expect to see. Technology has improved and productivity increased, ...

3 days, 18 hours ago
Views: 294 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 4
Lumberhead
Scott Walker’s Divisive Message
If any candidate could run a rigid campaign of polarization--aimed at winning as many white voters as possible--it's Walker. His language is already there. In his Iowa speech, he touted voter-identification laws and portrayed disadvantage as a pure product ...

3 days, 18 hours ago
Views: 447 • Comments: 1
Tweets: 5 • Rating: 4
Rocky-in-Connecticut
Republican Governor’s State-Run Media Outlet
I guess Republicans are against state-run enterprises except when they are for it. Indiana Governor (R) to start up State-Run official mouthpiece news outlet.indystar.com Hey- If a nice guy Republican/Tea Party favorite like Putin can have his own state-run mouthpiece, ...

4 days ago
Views: 314 • Comments: 1
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 4
Skip Intro
Republican Net Neutrality Bill Would Gut FCC’s Authority Over Broadband
The party of pure evil strikes again. Net neutrality legislation unveiled by Republicans today would gut the ability of the Federal Communications Commission to regulate the broadband industry. As expected, the bill forbids the FCC from reclassifying broadband as a ...

1 week, 6 days ago
Views: 719 • Comments: 2
Tweets: 2 • Rating: 6
 Frank says:

I can gross out anybody in this room. -- Said during a concert at Mount Holyoke College in the early 1970s.