Going home soon. Get to play some more Dawn of War II.

Fridays are unique...the maturing of your weekly sensibilities and the start of a little window into mischief...Fridays rool

Huskies offensive lineman Skyler Fancher bags purse snatcher in U District

Thieves beware: Don't rob someone in front of Huskies football player Skyler Fancher. He will run you down, even with a broken leg.

Hope those who need a minute, take one. I, on the other hand, have beer.
Serenity Now!!!
/ George's father (Frank?)

*Flops down*

The Revolution in Iran is still going on, dead paedophiles notwithstanding.

Ahmadinejad's Tehrannical regime is going down.

re: #6 haakondahl

The Revolution in Iran is still going on, dead paedophiles notwithstanding.

Ahmadinejad's Tehrannical regime is going down.

Good. We need a bake sale for, um, squirt guns?

I lurked the whole last thread, tough crowd. ;)

re: #7 buzzsawmonkey

Before Obama gets to give him the unclenched fist? What a tragedy.

And it will take our Administration and State Department completely by surprise, no doubt.

"An Unclenched Fist...
The Story of the Miami Smoking Hole"

re: #9 DEZes
Ed doesn't know when to say when.

The last thread was a practice in the 1st Amendment. And everyone was civil.

re: #12 snowcrash

Ed doesn't know when to say when.

We tried.

Drudge says Iranian atom bomb in six months. What will they use it on? Their own people?

re: #12 snowcrash

Ed doesn't know when to say when.

I saw that, Sometimes you have sit back and say I fooked up.

The report on iran I just saw on FOX was very encouraging. I just hope we are offering back channel help to the freedom fighters in iran. Because they do seem to be inching closer to another revolution and we BETTER be on the right side of history this time. If iran can change regimes, approximately 50% of our overseas problems could be solved without bloodshed.

Pray for those brave souls ... and Mr President: HELP THEM.

re: #15 quickjustice

Drudge says Iranian atom bomb in six months. What will they use it on? Their own people?

Nah, they'll either send it thru Lebanon or Gaza.

re: #6 haakondahl

From you lips to God's ears. I particularly like the "slap the enemies in the face" barb he threw out. Next, he'll threaten to "give us all such a pinch".

re: #17 _RememberTonyC

Pray for those brave souls ... and Mr President: HELP THEM.

Not going to happen. We've got global warming and healthcare to worry about.

re: #19 buzzsawmonkey

Maybe after they confirm it works at the Tel Aviv Test Site.

I think you got that the other way round, pardner.

"Where people are not present or their vote is not considered, that government is not Islamic."
Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, possible kingmaker in any new regime, in today's Friday sermons, challenging the regime in Tehran.
Those who say that he is only wrapping a political goal in terms of religion must be willing to admit that his opponents do the same thing, and that democracy is not necessarily incompatible with Islam. Those who say that he is sincere must admit that democracy is not necessarily incompatible with Islam.
We have friends throughout the Islamic world, and over the last eight years, they have slowly begun to push back against their real oppressors, their own miserable governments.

Freedom is one hell of a pill. Especially when a neighbor has it.

re: #21 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Not going to happen. We've got global warming and healthcare to worry about.

I miss Dubya

re: #23 haakondahl

The scary thing is that sometimes the people they vote for are full on nuts. And the candidates the Muslims have to chose from aren't much better.//

re: #26 _RememberTonyC

I miss Dubya

Sanity has left the building.

re: #24 buzzsawmonkey

Really? How so?

I think Tel Aviv has a planned test site somewhere in Iran, dad qum'mmit.

just do it Bibi

re: #23 haakondahl

I like the fact that the 230+ yr old echoes of "Republic" are ringing in their ears.

What's not to love? From Kragar's linked (last thread) Breitbart story

Inside the prayers—held on a former soccer field covered with a roof—some worshippers rubbed their eyes as tear gas from outside drifted in. They traded competing chants with some hard-liners in the congregation. When the hard-liners chanted "death to America," Mousavi supporters countered with "death to Russia" and "death to China."

re: #30 calcajun

re: #31 buzzsawmonkey

I hope they go surgical. Better option.

re: #34 haakondahl

Of course, this is all the work of our insidious inside agents, dontcha know.

I think the internal problems in iran could play into the hands of Israel. Maybe the Mossad can get a key member of the iranian nuclear team to turn against the mullahs and provide info on the most important targets.

Obama's Jedi Mind Trick.

Obama appears, waving his hand like Obi-Wan Kenobi, “I’m putting you on notice.”

I first noticed Obama’s Jedi mind trick back when he and his team began calling Rush Limbaugh the de facto leader of the Republican Party…and my liberal friends, the ones who used to want to move to Scandinavia, claimed that Rush had in fact claimed himself to be the de facto leader of the Republican Party.

re: #38 ladycatnip

Obama's Jedi Mind Trick.

The Force has a powerful effect on the weak minded.

re: #35 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #31 buzzsawmonkey

I hope they go surgical. Better option.

no "Ride of the Valkyries"?

I’ve been thinking about racism. I’m a bit of a TV addict. Recently I watched a History Channel documentary about early cavemen, i.e., Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon man. To summarize my learnings from that program, I was supposed to take away from it that the scientists that study this subject decided that the Neanderthals disappeared with a whisper, rather than a bang about 25,000 years ago and that Cro-Magnon people eventually were more suited and probably evolved into today’s humans. Look it up in your reference books.

Neanderthals lacked the ability to reason clearly, operated on instinct, did not possess sophisticated verbal skills, had no artistic abilities to speak of, and were not adept at abstract thinking. Thus, as the scientists believe, they fizzled out. Cro-Magnon man, on the other hand, was more capable of the skills that the Neanderthals lacked, making them more suitable for eventual evolution and survival.

That being said, and not being a scientific person, I come now to my own opinion about the scientist’s conclusions. They were wrong. Neanderthals still exist. They did not disappear. They live and have in-bred among us. For proof just watch the Jerry Springer Show, or Maury, or Steve Wilkos, et al. I cringe watching those shows, but they are a reality check and one needs to be aware, so occasionally I watch that garbage, too.

I am not a racist person. There are so many talented, intelligent, and decent people of good character from so many races, places, ethnicity, gender, religion, and age, living in this world. I admire and respect those individuals regardless of all the superficial trappings that could otherwise make one prejudicial about unimportant visuals, hyphenated names, or in tune with someone else’s biased societal views about preconceived notions.

If I discriminate, I don’t think that’s always a bad thing. I can and will separate myself from other individuals based upon the quality of their character, decent values, their respect for others, and their ability to reason clearly and convey their thoughts with objectivity, integrity, and clarity rather than dysfunction. I prefer not to surround or identify myself with Neanderthals. So I’ve decided that I’m not a racist, regardless of what others would label me as, unless Neanderthals are a race.

So thanks for listening to Grandma on this lovely Carolina USA summer evening, beat me up if you will, and have a nice day.

re: #40 albusteve

no "Ride of the Valkyries"?

I vote "No Quarter" with the Republican Guard.

re: #37 _RememberTonyC

I think the internal problems in iran could play into the hands of Israel. Maybe the Mossad can get a key member of the iranian nuclear team to turn against the mullahs and provide info on the most important targets.

I'm quite sure that they have what they need. I don't see any connection, or need for one, between western powers and the revolution, other than the examples provided.

Out for the evening. Take care!

re: #39 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

The Force has a powerful effect on the weak minded.

I typed word for word the same thing and hit post.
I look up and see what I typed with your nic. instead of mine.
Gonna be a strange evening. ;)

re: #41 grandma

I’ve been thinking about racism. I’m a bit of a TV addict. Recently I watched a History Channel documentary about early cavemen, i.e., Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon man. To summarize my learnings from that program, I was supposed to take away from it that the scientists that study this subject decided that the Neanderthals disappeared with a whisper, rather than a bang about 25,000 years ago and that Cro-Magnon people eventually were more suited and probably evolved into today’s humans. Look it up in your reference books.

Neanderthals lacked the ability to reason clearly, operated on instinct, did not possess sophisticated verbal skills, had no artistic abilities to speak of, and were not adept at abstract thinking. Thus, as the scientists believe, they fizzled out. Cro-Magnon man, on the other hand, was more capable of the skills that the Neanderthals lacked, making them more suitable for eventual evolution and survival.

That being said, and not being a scientific person, I come now to my own opinion about the scientist’s conclusions. They were wrong. Neanderthals still exist. They did not disappear. They live and have in-bred among us. For proof just watch the Jerry Springer Show, or Maury, or Steve Wilkos, et al. I cringe watching those shows, but they are a reality check and one needs to be aware, so occasionally I watch that garbage, too.

I am not a racist person. There are so many talented, intelligent, and decent people of good character from so many races, places, ethnicity, gender, religion, and age, living in this world. I admire and respect those individuals regardless of all the superficial trappings that could otherwise make one prejudicial about unimportant visuals, hyphenated names, or in tune with someone else’s biased societal views about preconceived notions.

If I discriminate, I don’t think that’s always a bad thing. I can and will separate myself from other individuals based upon the quality of their character, decent values, their respect for others, and their ability to reason clearly and convey their thoughts with objectivity, integrity, and clarity rather than dysfunction. I prefer not to surround or identify myself with Neanderthals. So I’ve decided that I’m not a racist, regardless of what others would label me as, unless Neanderthals are a race.

So thanks for listening to Grandma on this lovely Carolina USA summer evening, beat me up if you will, and have a nice day.

Provided that you are talking metaphorically and not in some literal genetic sense, you will get no beating from me.

re: #46 DEZes

I typed word for word the same thing and hit post.
I look up and see what I typed with your nic. instead of mine.
Gonna be a strange evening. ;)

You serve your master well, and will be well rewarded.

re: #41 grandma

What the F?

re: #34 haakondahl

What's not to love? From Kragar's linked (last thread) Breitbart story

Death to China? This is good stuff. I wonder how it'll affect their oil contract?
Like the US and Venezuela?

re: #43 buzzsawmonkey

Six Flags just put in the Ride of the Valkyries. It isn't over until the fat lady pukes.

I remember going on "the ride of steel." The start of the coaster is a very, very long climb. It was ling enough that after going up fopr a while, I began to wonder how much longer we would be going up - twice - Then the screaming started.

re: #51 buzzsawmonkey

The problem is that the greedy, hegemonistic Cro Magnons refused to vote sufficient appropriations to provide the Neanderthals with re-training to meet the needs of the post-Ice Age economy.

And they persecuted the right of the undead!

re: #38 ladycatnip

Obama's Jedi Mind Trick.

Obama has dared independent minded pols to show some balls. Will any of them take the challenge? Right now everyone (that's right, EVERYONE) in Washington looks like a fucking wimp. Even nancy pelosi orders around other politicians like they're a bunch of serfs. Congratulations to the most feckless group of useless politicians in my lifetime. Screw all of them. None of them deserve our votes.

Hey, kids, is this the FNDT? If it's not, it will be in about five minutes when I get a drink.

O/T

Sometime tomorrow or Sunday, my nephew, USMC SSGT Thumper, will arrive back in Iraq for his 2nd tour, infantry.

If anyone is still keeping the prayer list, please add him to it as well as my other nephew, Army Cpt Jake the Snake.

With that I will bid you all adieu.

Inside the prayers—held on a former soccer field covered with a roof—some worshippers rubbed their eyes as tear gas from outside drifted in. They traded competing chants with some hard-liners in the congregation. When the hard-liners chanted "death to America," Mousavi supporters countered with "death to Russia" and "death to China."

re: #41 grandma
You sound a little defensive about racism. Have you been called a racist? Have you felt that you were?
I am glad to hear that you have decided you are not a racist. Welcome to LGF in your newly re-incarnated non-racist form.
Just a question--what do your Neanderthals look like?

re: #51 buzzsawmonkey

The problem is that the greedy, hegemonistic Cro Magnons refused to vote sufficient appropriations to provide the Neanderthals with re-training to meet the needs of the post-Ice Age economy.

why am I thinking Homer Simpson?

re: #56 Eowyn2

O/T

Sometime tomorrow or Sunday, my nephew, USMC SSGT Thumper, will arrive back in Iraq for his 2nd tour, infantry.

If anyone is still keeping the prayer list, please add him to it as well as my other nephew, Army Cpt Jake the Snake.

With that I will bid you all adieu.

I'll add them to my prayers tonight. Speaking of which, I must go to. Have a great Shabbos Lizardim! And to all of you non-tribe LIzards, have a fabulous, amazing weekend!

Isn't this special. Jobless rate tops 10 percent in 15 states, DC

Yeah, my state is on the list, but at least it's not Michigan.

We know we spend a huge amount of money that last year of life. More and more people are gonna say, I don't want people poking tubes, and, you know, uh, doing all sorts of...stuff. The most important thing we can do on end-of-life care right now: to encourage people to look at hospices as a...legitimate option."
-- President Barack Obama

/"Bring out your dead!"

re: #61 doppelganglander

Isn't this special. Jobless rate tops 10 percent in 15 states, DC

Yeah, my state is on the list, but at least it's not Michigan.

Well, we have to have higher unemployment before we have a recovery (J. Biden).

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

Well, we have to have higher unemployment before we have a recovery (J. Biden).

I say we start with congress...

re: #61 doppelganglander

Isn't this special. Jobless rate tops 10 percent in 15 states, DC

Yeah, my state is on the list, but at least it's not Michigan.

My county in FLA is 11.8%. In 11 days, 1 year without work. No unemployment either.

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

Well, we have to have higher unemployment before we have a recovery (J. Biden).

Do we have to destroy the village in order to save it?

The more I find out about the state-run Alaska Railroad, the more I realize how different it is than other railways in the lower 48.

I think the first and most significant aspect is that the ARR has no land connection with the other railways in North America. Cars must be put on barges and shipped to or from Prince Rupert, BC to connect with the Canadian National or Seattle to connect with Union Pacific or BNSF. The locomotives themselves are too heavy to venture onto the barges when they're being loaded or unloaded, so what they do is string together a bunch of empty flactcars to pull cars off of or push cars onto the rail barges.

Presently there's talk of extending the current end of track from North Pole (just outside of Fairbanks) to Delta Jct to better serve Ft. Greeley (who's only connection to the outside world is 2-lane Alaska Route 4) and the various mining outfits there. Estimated costs for this range from $440 million to $800 million- which could easily pay for itself the first few years of service.

There's also a couple of aspects that make it different from other railways in the lower 48. A few years back, the Federal Railroad Administration deemed some of their WWII-era gondola cars unfit for service, which meant they couldn't be interchanged with other railways and only operate at restricted speeds on home rails. The ARR didn't do anyhting right away until they were contacted by a salvage outfit that was looking to cut up a derelict barge that has washed up on shore during one of the tsunamis in the '64 earthquake and had been rusting away adjacent to the ARR tracks ever since.

The salvage outfit got to work cutting up the barge and putting the scrap in the derelict gondola cars the ARR parked in a specially constructed siding. Then, when they were finished scrapping the barge, the ARR cautiously moved the gondolas full of scrap to one of the ports where a crane picked up the scrap- gondola car and all and placed it on the ship.

There was also a more recent example of a massive rockslide that blocked the road into Whittier. Nobody was hurt, but the town was blocked off from any land link w/the rest of Alaska. One of the many problems faced with the isolation was that the garbage trucks couldn't come in from out of town and make their rounds in Whittier. Since the ARR line was still intact after the landslide, they saw a way around the problem by loading up the garbage trucks on flatcars bringing in the garbage truck drivers by hi-rail (a pickup or worktruck that can run on rails), offloading the trucks, have the drivers make their appointed rounds and put everything back on the flatcars and ship out by the same day.

Although the relative isolation plays a factor in some of the decision making, I can't think of too many railways in the lower 48 that would do something like that...

Obama grows more arrogant by the day. The first Washington politician to jump back up in his face and show some balls will become an instant hero in my house.

#61 doppelganglander

Isn't this special. Jobless rate tops 10 percent in 15 states, DC

Only 15 states? Obama, with his stern face on, would say, "That means there's 43 states that don't have a 10% jobless rate. Be happy."

-what do your Neanderthals look like?

/ radical Islamist tax and spend Nazis who torture kittens

re: #65 Cannadian Club Akbar

My county in FLA is 11.8%. In 11 days, 1 year without work. No unemployment either.

I'm afraid we're headed that way at my house. I'm working, but my husband has been unemployed since February 1. He will very soon go into extended benefits. If he doesn't find something by then, I don't know what we'll do. I do hope you find something soon.

TOTUS has now officially ruined forever the phrase ' Let me be clear '. From now on, it's an automatic hands-over-the-ears to me.
When he says it, you know that what he means is ' I'm about to tell another whopper '...

re: #69 ladycatnip

#61 doppelganglander

Only 15 states? Obama, with his stern face on, would say, "That means there's 43 states that don't have a 10% jobless rate. Be happy."

If this all keeps up, anything is going to look like a recovery. When there is almost no place to go but up, the dems will have a coup.

re: #51 buzzsawmonkeyLOLLL!

re: #28 DEZes

Sanity has left the building.

Change!

re: #63 Walter L. Newton

Well, we have to have higher unemployment before we have a recovery (J. Biden).

that fool ought to be thrown in jail...that kind of lying is close to treason...fucking liberal word crimes

re: #75 Racer X

Change!

And none to spare.

re: #71 doppelganglander

I'm afraid we're headed that way at my house. I'm working, but my husband has been unemployed since February 1. He will very soon go into extended benefits. If he doesn't find something by then, I don't know what we'll do. I do hope you find something soon.

Get a lawyer. Go to your local Legal Aide. Bought me time and my mortgage company has been eaten up by another. (Both Big!) Free lawyers still have to give it their all. LUCK TO YA!!!

re: #44 haakondahl

I'm quite sure that they have what they need. I don't see any connection, or need for one, between western powers and the revolution, other than the examples provided.

I'm talking about getting precise info on THE KEY TARGET (whatever that may be) in iran's nuke program. If someone in the nuke program that may have a beef with the mullahs decided to leak the info to the right person, it could allow Israel to attack that key target from afar with little danger to its pilots.

re: #64 brookly red

I say we start with congress...

I second that.

re: #72 tradewind
i cant even make it that far--as soon as i see him i hit the PSTFU button(credit to a fellow lizard.)

That is why I have moved quickly to work with my economic team and leaders of both parties on an American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan that will immediately jumpstart job creation and long-term growth.

-- Barack Obama

We must enact government run health care now! Your outrage is not permitted.

re: #76 albusteve

that fool ought to be thrown in jail...that kind of lying is close to treason...fucking liberal word crimes

I think you realized it, but I was sarcastically playing on his remark about spending more to keep from going bankrupt.

re: #76 albusteve

that fool ought to be thrown in jail...that kind of lying is close to treason...fucking liberal word crimes

albusteve ... Hey Steve! ...

swirlers ... and oh brother is there more ... they just getting started ... it is gonna get deeper ...

Well...I posted this on the LNDT when the topic of used-car hucksters crazy eddie and cal worthington were being discussed:

I'm trying to think of my least favorite used car salesman that I see on TV these days. I can't think of his name, but he's actually pretty quiet. Supposedly he's eloquent or a good public speaker, but from what I've seen, he stumbles and pauses alot. He tries coming off as your good pal, but it misfires and he seems a tad arrogant or aloof. And when he makes promises (that probably have a short shelf life anyway) he says things like "We Will get it done" which sound more like thinly veiled threats than anything. Don't get me started on his financing plans- he overcharges while making it sound like you're getting the deal of a life time and you're left holding the bag for years to come. He's on TV alot and a bunch of people seem to like him for whatever reason.

Just wish I could remember his name...Barry something?

Oh...wait! It's Barry/Barack Hussein 0bama! That's the name I was thinking of...

re: #62 IslandLibertarian

We know we spend a huge amount of money that last year of life. More and more people are gonna say, I don't want people poking tubes, and, you know, uh, doing all sorts of...stuff. The most important thing we can do on end-of-life care right now: to encourage people to look at hospices as a...legitimate option."
-- President Barack Obama

/"Bring out your dead!"

My father, God bless him, ended his life at home under our's and hospice's care. That choice was ours and I want it to remain ours, not some goddammed beauracrats decision.

re: #82 FrogMarch

-- Barack Obama

We must enact government run health care now! Your outrage is not permitted.

that is exactly the arrogance I refer to by the POTUS. his priorities could not possibly be more out of whack.

re: #83 Walter L. Newton

I think you realized it, but I was sarcastically playing on his remark about spending more to keep from going bankrupt.

of course...what's your guess as to how many droolers are gonna believe that?...the man is a dangerous blithering idiot, and i'm being nice

re: #82 FrogMarch

-- Barack Obama

We must enact government run health care now! Your outrage is not permitted.

The health care overhauls released to date would increase, not reduce, the burgeoning long-term health costs facing the government, Congressional Budget Office Director Douglas Elmendorf said Thursday.

[Link: www.cqpolitics.com...]

re: #66 doppelganglander

No, but it takes the village idiot to come up with an analysis that dense, and damned if he's not the VPOTUS.

Dear Liza,
Hole beats bucket three-to-one, long term.

re: #18 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Nah, they'll either send it thru Lebanon or Gaza.

Up for bid on T-Bay.

re: #61 doppelganglander

Isn't this special. Jobless rate tops 10 percent in 15 states, DC

Yeah, my state is on the list, but at least it's not Michigan.

Broad Unemployment Across the U.S.

Under a broader definition of joblessness, some states have rates higher than 20 percent. This rate includes part-time workers who want to work full time, as well some people who want to work but have not looked for a job in the last four weeks.

America's Effective Unemployment Rate at 18.7%?

Each month, I receive from Leo Hindery an update on "America's effective unemployment rate" which includes not only the official unemployment figures but other data points showing off-the-books unemployed or underemployed people.

re: #88 albusteve

of course...what's your guess as to how many droolers are gonna believe that?...the man is a dangerous blithering idiot, and i'm being nice

You are narrow in your outlook, the whole administration are dangerous blithering idiots.

Alaska still has the frontier free spirit thing going CAN DO

re: #78 Cannadian Club Akbar

Get a lawyer. Go to your local Legal Aide. Bought me time and my mortgage company has been eaten up by another. (Both Big!) Free lawyers still have to give it their all. LUCK TO YA!!!

I don't think we're to that point yet. I haven't missed a mortgage payment, but I'm often a bit late on the utilities (although not late enough to have them shut off). We only have two more payments on his car, so that will free up some money. I am very worried about November, when our health insurance subsidy runs out. I think that's also the end of extended unemployment benefits, too. I will keep your advice in the back of my mind and hope I never need it.

re: #84 JacksonTn

albusteve ... Hey Steve! ...

swirlers ... and oh brother is there more ... they just getting started ... it is gonna get deeper ...

way deeper...to talk themselves out of this economic disaster is gonna call for some monumental bullshit

re: #62 IslandLibertarian

We know we spend a huge amount of money that last year of life. More and more people are gonna say, I don't want people poking tubes, and, you know, uh, doing all sorts of...stuff. The most important thing we can do on end-of-life care right now: to encourage people to look at hospices as a...legitimate option."
-- President Barack Obama

/"Bring out your dead!"

That a decision my wife's mother made with terminal cancer. She might have lived a few days, to a few weeks longer in the ICU, but chose to die at home with her family attending to her needs with hospice help. Hospice workers are angels on earth IMHO.

re: #66 doppelganglander

here's something to help you get through the next 3 1/2 years...

example:chocorat - Chocolate ration. The chocolate ration in 1983 was 30 grams per week. (For comparison, a standard Hershey's Chocolate Bar is 43 grams) In the year 1984, the chocolate ration went up to 25 grams per week. Winston himself is charged with the task of re-writing history to make this little feat possible.

re: #99 avanti

That a decision my wife's mother made with terminal cancer. She might have lived a few days, to a few weeks longer in the ICU, but chose to die at home with her family attending to her needs with hospice help. Hospice workers are angels on earth IMHO.

I agree with that.

re: #71 doppelganglander

I'm afraid we're headed that way at my house. I'm working, but my husband has been unemployed since February 1. He will very soon go into extended benefits. If he doesn't find something by then, I don't know what we'll do. I do hope you find something soon.

I'm the oldest of 6 in Southern CA. 3 contractors, a med tech, a cop and a federal emp. Only the last 2 have steady work. Between myself and the other 2 contractors: 2 weeks work in 6 months. No eligibilty for unemp. or anything.
It's bad out there.

The new Taser X3 is ready for prime time.

Gadget geeks may want to see the new "Tri-Fire" in action, with guinea pigs supplied by the manufacturer (company employees). These women deserve a little extra hazard duty pay.

The slogan: One Device, Three Shots, No Re-loading.

re: #96 doppelganglander

I had a friend that used to get loans on his car because it was paid off. Collateral, yes. But it buys a bit of time, if you can swing it. My friend, owed a bookie. Idiot. And through a bank. Not Amscott or whatever.

re: #100 IslandLibertarian

here's something to help you get through the next 3 1/2 years...

example:chocorat - Chocolate ration. The chocolate ration in 1983 was 30 grams per week. (For comparison, a standard Hershey's Chocolate Bar is 43 grams) In the year 1984, the chocolate ration went up to 25 grams per week. Winston himself is charged with the task of re-writing history to make this little feat possible.

That is exactly how I feel every time I read the MSM. How is a smaller than expected increase in unemployment considered good news?

re: #7 buzzsawmonkey

Before Obama gets to give him the unclenched fist? What a tragedy.

Buzz, talk of fisting is not appropriate on this board. :)

re: #100 IslandLibertarian

Ain't no one messin' with my damned Scotch ration!

I'd like to bring back my favorite description of Emperor Barack Obama:

"The Empty Suit Has No Clothes."

I love this song.

Have a good Friday afternoon, Lizards!

re: #61 doppelganglander

Isn't this special. Jobless rate tops 10 percent in 15 states, DC

Yeah, my state is on the list, but at least it's not Michigan.

My state is on the list and it IS MICHIGAN.

/sucks to live here, can't move cause house isn't worth shit

re: #107 calcajun

Ain't no one messin' with my damned Scotch ration!

you ration it???

#62 IslandLibertarian

We know we spend a huge amount of money that last year of life. More and more people are gonna say, I don't want people poking tubes, and, you know, uh, doing all sorts of...stuff. The most important thing we can do on end-of-life care right now: to encourage people to look at hospices as a...legitimate option."
-- President Barack Obama

Translation: "We will decide when to stop poking, uh, you know, tubes, and you know, and doing all sorts of...stuff to, you know, uh, keep you alive."

re: #99 avanti

That a decision my wife's mother made with terminal cancer. She might have lived a few days, to a few weeks longer in the ICU, but chose to die at home with her family attending to her needs with hospice help. Hospice workers are angels on earth IMHO.

Well, good ones of course.
My wife's grandma's friend did not have good care at the end, in a veterans hospice or something similar... he was in several places at the end. She had good care, from a (I think) ex-nurse from my mother-in-law's church who stayed moved in with her when she went, slowly.

re: #106 ShanghaiEd

Buzz, talk of fisting is not appropriate on this board. :)

Yeah-- put your money where your... Oh, never mind.

Come to think of it, that's the one place the government would not think (or want) to look for it./

re: #102 poteen

I'm the oldest of 6 in Southern CA. 3 contractors, a med tech, a cop and a federal emp. Only the last 2 have steady work. Between myself and the other 2 contractors: 2 weeks work in 6 months. No eligibilty for unemp. or anything.
It's bad out there.

In California, I don't imagine it's going to get any better. Georgia is the same way, on a smaller scale -- we are so overbuilt, it's estimated it will take four years for the existing housing stock to be assimilated.

re: #15 quickjustice

More like what will they use it as?
A get- out -of- UN- jail free card. The mullahs see it as their ultimate barganing chip, and unfortunately, they're right. Look how well it's worked for the Norks.

re: #105 doppelganglander

just remember when unemployment was 5% under President Bush the MSM would talk about high unemployment now crickets.

re: #111 mikeymom

With what I pay for the good stuff, I make my bottles last two weeks.

re: #105 doppelganglander

That is exactly how I feel every time I read the MSM. How is a smaller than expected increase in unemployment considered good news?

Because the rate increase has to slow down and stop before it reverses.Just like the drop in job loses.

re: #89 Walter L. Newton

The health care overhauls released to date would increase, not reduce, the burgeoning long-term health costs facing the government, Congressional Budget Office Director Douglas Elmendorf said Thursday.

[Link: www.cqpolitics.com...]

numbers smumbers. We need health care reform, now!
It's a rhetorical fierce moral urgency. Never mind the obvious.

re: #99 avanti

That a decision my wife's mother made with terminal cancer. She might have lived a few days, to a few weeks longer in the ICU, but chose to die at home with her family attending to her needs with hospice help. Hospice workers are angels on earth IMHO.

I just think we want to make those decisions ourselves.

re: #115 doppelganglander

In California, I don't imagine it's going to get any better. Georgia is the same way, on a smaller scale -- we are so overbuilt, it's estimated it will take four years for the existing housing stock to be assimilated.

houses are like dope..I know, I built 300 of them

re: #114 calcajun

Yeah-- put your money where your... Oh, never mind.

Come to think of it, that's the one place the government would not think (or want) to look for it./

i resist the barney frank joke...

PIMF ouchie: ' bargaining'.
Spell check asleep on the job...

re: #58 haakondahl

You sound a little defensive about racism. Have you been called a racist? Have you felt that you were?
I am glad to hear that you have decided you are not a racist. Welcome to LGF in your newly re-incarnated non-racist form.
Just a question--what do your Neanderthals look like?

With all due respect, please do not project upon me qualities that you assume without knowing who I am, where I stand, and have derived on your own rather than on the words I wrote. Do not expect me to defend myself against some strawman that you have constructed.

re: #86 LGoPs

My father, God bless him, ended his life at home under our's and hospice's care. That choice was ours and I want it to remain ours, not some goddammed beauracrats decision.

exactly.
the thought of some gov't worker having that much control over the lives of citizens is so frightening. seniors and young people will be the ones who suffer. just imagine how many baby boomers are going to soon be needing medical help. the rules and regs of gov't DMV style health care will be brutal.

re: #119 avanti

Because the rate increase has to slow down and stop before it reverses.Just like the drop in job loses.

Leave it to you to see the silver lining.

Of course most of us don't live from gambling winnings, we actually had jobs, you know those things Obama keeps promising, that used to exist before he was Pres.

On December 22, 2007, I went from Florida to NYC for Christmas. I used miles and money was no problem. Now, not so much. Get creative. Call credit card companies. EVERYONE will work with you.

re: #119 avanti

Because the rate increase has to slow down and stop before it reverses.Just like the drop in job loses.

SCIENCE!...thanks for that...who'd a thought

re: #117 yochanan

just remember when unemployment was 5% under President Bush the MSM would talk about high unemployment now crickets.

YES! Thank you!

re: #117 yochanan

just remember when unemployment was 5% under President Bush the MSM would talk about high unemployment now crickets.

i would get a bottle of cheap-er stuff and do 2-1!

re: #99 avanti
My mother passed in hospice, AFTER SHE DECIDED to stop cancer treatments.
It is OUR decision, not "0"s (pronounced zero)...
the camel named euthanasia is putting it's nose under the tent flap
Your "0" is a disaster.

re: #119 avanti

Because the rate increase has to slow down and stop before it reverses.Just like the drop in job loses.

It's still bullshit. They try to portray that as a sign of improvement in order to prop up TOTUS. I'm supposed to get excited about 422K jobs lost, vs. 500K? Spare me.

re: #67 Fenway_Nation

In DC they'll review regulations, commission studies, review, analyze, form committees, file reports on environment, economic, culture, racial and other forms of impact, generate a plan, put the plan out for bid, review the bids, make sure the proper diverse companies are being selected. Then someone will find a very rare hog nose wormworter on the property and whole thing gets tied up in law suits for 8 years. When that's settled the whole process starts over again. A bunch of bureaucrats will have entire careers on the project and become experts that can lobby congress on the next project.

In Alaska a couple of guys roll up their sleeves and say, "lets fix this shit."

re: #126 nyc redneck

What bothers me is the formulaic aspect of it. I'm thinking of two elderly men I know, both nearing ninety: one still goes to his office daily, farms on the weekends, and walks four miles every day for exercise... the other can hardly get around. The thought of them being treated equally if a procedure ... say a hipe replacement ...was needed is creeping me out.

umm sorry wrong post meant for 118--sigh

re: #125 Grandma

With all due respect, please do not project upon me qualities that you assume without knowing who I am, where I stand, and have derived on your own rather than on the words I wrote. Do not expect me to defend myself against some strawman that you have constructed.

Fine. What the ^&*( was your point? All I have ever known of you was the words you wrote, and it's downright creepy.

Expletive deleted in case you really are a Grandma.

re: #134 jcm

In DC they'll review regulations, commission studies, review, analyze, form committees, file reports on environment, economic, culture, racial and other forms of impact, generate a plan, put the plan out for bid, review the bids, make sure the proper diverse companies are being selected. Then someone will find a very rare hog nose wormworter on the property and whole thing gets tied up in law suits for 8 years. When that's settled the whole process starts over again. A bunch of bureaucrats will have entire careers on the project and become experts that can lobby congress on the next project.

In Alaska a couple of guys roll up their sleeves and say, "lets fix this shit."

well said you caveman

re: #107 calcajun

Ain't no one messin' with my damned Scotch ration!

no worries, you'll get your ration, but the TAX will kill you.

re: #103 Pianobuff

The new Taser X3 is ready for prime time.

Gadget geeks may want to see the new "Tri-Fire" in action, with guinea pigs supplied by the manufacturer (company employees). These women deserve a little extra hazard duty pay.

The slogan: One Device, Three Shots, No Re-loading.

The Taser XREP uses my companies chip. No we did not do full up testing.

[Link: pogue.blogs.nytimes.com...]

"This morning, hundreds of Amazon Kindle owners awoke to discover that books by a certain famous author had mysteriously disappeared from their e-book readers. These were books that they had bought and paid for—thought they owned. "

re: #139 buzzsawmonkey
makes me wanna dance

Well I'm home, with a beer and popcorn, Yankee game on, and they finally fixed my car. All is right in the world, well except for all the shit Obama is screwing up.

re: #139 buzzsawmonkey

Dude, you got skills.

Upding.

re: #139 buzzsawmonkey

Fab!

re: #121 debutaunt

I just think we want to make those decisions ourselves.

That won't change no matter how health insurance is paid for. I think the point is that hospice care should be offered as a option in terminal patients. The medical industry would rather hook you up to all their fancy gadgets to extend your life for a short time even if you are in pain. I think you should have the option of dieing at home, and not hooked up to a machine.
If it was up to me. I'd like a knob to control my morphine drip, so I can decide when I tired of the pain.

re: #115 doppelganglander

New building out here is usually 6 - 12 months behind grading. So far no new grading at all and the loan and remodel markets are way screwed up. Even people who do have enough build or remodel now are scared it's going to get worse

re: #140 IslandLibertarian

no worries, you'll get your ration, but the TAX will kill you.

MOONSHINE

re: #134 jcm

Yet it could be what you just described that would put the kibosh on any work for the Ft. Greeley/Delta Jct. extention...

re: #110 Alouette

My state is on the list and it IS MICHIGAN.

/sucks to live here, can't move cause house isn't worth shit

Thanks Granmole for "blowing us away." On the west side of the state things are not much better. The value of our house is about at the price where we bought it 10 years ago. At least we have decent neighbors.

re: #127 Alouette

Leave it to you to see the silver lining.

Of course most of us don't live from gambling winnings, we actually had jobs, you know those things Obama keeps promising, that used to exist before he was Pres.

Even though I voted for him, I did not expect a turnaround in 4 months, but the news is getting better.

re: #147 avanti

That won't change no matter how health insurance is paid for. I think the point is that hospice care should be offered as a option in terminal patients. The medical industry would rather hook you up to all their fancy gadgets to extend your life for a short time even if you are in pain. I think you should have the option of dieing at home, and not hooked up to a machine.
If it was up to me. I'd like a knob to control my morphine drip, so I can decide when I tired of the pain.

you DO have that option...what the fuck are you rambling about...take control and be proactive...you are talking in circles

Speaking of my car- any car experts out there. Last weekend the "all wheel drive" thing malfunctioned on my car actually blowing the Thick metal housing it was in apart? Anyone know anything about that?

re: #139 buzzsawmonkey

Well, you can tell by the way I use my talk,
We gotta pass health care--no time to balk
Who cares if the money can be found?
You're in for a penny, you're in for a pound
And now it's all right, it's OK
I won, so it's gonna be all my way
Don't bother tryin' to understand
Just trust yourself to the government hand

Whether it's your brother or whether it's your mother
Trying stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
With our ration we'll determine in our own fashion
If they're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin' alive, stayin' alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin' alive

--apologies to the Bee Gees

No apologies needed Buzz...
Frigging Genius dude...

re: #147 avanti

That won't change no matter how health insurance is paid for. I think the point is that hospice care should be offered as a option in terminal patients. The medical industry would rather hook you up to all their fancy gadgets to extend your life for a short time even if you are in pain. I think you should have the option of dieing at home, and not hooked up to a machine.
If it was up to me. I'd like a knob to control my morphine drip, so I can decide when I tired of the pain.

I'm not trying to be snarky but I remain undyingly skeptical of the governments decision making ability. Technically speaking, we are all terminal

re: #153 avanti

THey're running out of people to lay off?

re: #139 buzzsawmonkey

If people would get busy and call their reps, I feel like we could...

Just beat it, beat it
Call your Senator, defeat it
There are a few Dems who won't let it pass
They know they'd be voted out on their ass
So beat it

re: #153 avanti

Even though I voted for him, I did not expect a turnaround in 4 months, but the news is getting better.

Name one thing that is getting better.

re: #148 poteen

My last job said we had 2 million cubic yards of dirt to move starting in 12/07. Not so much.
People put down $40K on a house, then backed out.

re: #103 Pianobuff

The new Taser X3 is ready for prime time.

Gadget geeks may want to see the new "Tri-Fire" in action, with guinea pigs supplied by the manufacturer (company employees). These women deserve a little extra hazard duty pay.

The slogan: One Device, Three Shots, No Re-loading.

Did you see this link?

Are Taser Guns Torture?

Last week, the United Nations Committee Against Torture ruled that the Taser gun is a form of torture, and "can even provoke death."

Fine.

*Put's taser back, and grabs 1911*

I'm up with that.

re: #153 avanti

Even though I voted for him, I did not expect a turnaround in 4 months, but the news is getting better.

Link?

re: #121 debutaunt

I just think we want to make those decisions ourselves.

it really is abt. freedom.

for o it is abt. power.
we don't want the gov't deciding if we live or die.

re: #160 Alouette

Name one thing that is getting better.

Oh Snap!

re: #160 Alouette

Name one thing that is getting better.

Or even a half a thing.

re: #114 calcajun

Yeah-- put your money where your... Oh, never mind.

Come to think of it, that's the one place the government would not think (or want) to look for it./

Not necessarily. Remember the classic Tony Soprano line?

"The feds are so far up my ass, I'm belching Brylcreem."

Question for the lizards: Is it true that 0bama has mandatory assisted suicide counseling every 5 years in their health plan?

re: #160 Alouette

The Republicans' chances to retake the House and Senate.

re: #164 nyc redneck
Or if we eat french fries cooked in trans fat. lol

re: #137 haakondahl
What up with the rage. Have a drink and turn that frown upside down!
Grandma is a nice lady with a strong sense of common sense.

re: #168 notamolly

Question for the lizards: Is it true that 0bama has mandatory assisted suicide counseling every 5 years in their health plan?

Is that a joke?

re: #147 avanti

That won't change no matter how health insurance is paid for. I think the point is that hospice care should be offered as a option in terminal patients. The medical industry would rather hook you up to all their fancy gadgets to extend your life for a short time even if you are in pain. I think you should have the option of dieing at home, and not hooked up to a machine.
If it was up to me. I'd like a knob to control my morphine drip, so I can decide when I tired of the pain.

Dying at home, sooner than you would like, if the govt. decides you have no value to society, will not be an OPTION. Maybe you will have the OPTION to report to your local euthanasia center.

re: #147 avanti

That won't change no matter how health insurance is paid for. I think the point is that hospice care should be offered as a option in terminal patients. The medical industry would rather hook you up to all their fancy gadgets to extend your life for a short time even if you are in pain. I think you should have the option of dieing at home, and not hooked up to a machine.
If it was up to me. I'd like a knob to control my morphine drip, so I can decide when I tired of the pain.

avanti ... you sure about this:

The medical industry would rather hook you up to all their fancy gadgets to extend your life for a short time even if you are in pain.

I know many people including my parents who have died and the insurance companies and medicare always asked if they wanted hospice ... it cost way less to die at home ... but it should be left up to the individual ... not the government ...

Oh, and Lincoln Davis says he will not sign the Health Reform Bill "if" it says government will pay for abortion ... well, guess ole Lincoln will be getting another call from me come Monday ... that spineless jerk better not sign it for any reason ... he knows the vast majority of the people in his district do not want the bill to pass ... he is looking for a way out and will hide under Pelosi's skirt ...

re: #169 tradewind

The Republicans' chances to retake the House and Senate.

From your mouth to G-D's ears

re: #168 notamolly

Question for the lizards: Is it true that 0bama has mandatory assisted suicide counseling every 5 years in their health plan?

awww c'mon!! that is so silly!!!

re: #153 avanti

Even though I voted for him, I did not expect a turnaround in 4 months, but the news is getting better.

BO and his minions have created this mess...you cannot rewrite history...turnaround from WHAT?...to WHAT?...it's all on the books and there is no escaping the truth, don't insult me with this blather

re: #166 debutaunt

Or even a half a thing.

let's see..scratches head..
oh yea..all those bastard millionaires are paying for American Healthcare from now on...right?
/

re: #172 Nevergiveup

Is that a joke?

That was on FR and was retracted.

re: #160 Alouette

Name one thing that is getting better.

My diarrhea has improved greatly. Now it's just a far-post-nasal drip.

re: #176 mikeymom

awww c'mon!! that is so silly!!!

FReepers seem to believe that. I thought it was a bit much.

re: #179 notamolly

That was on FR and was retracted.

then why keep a stupid rumor going?

re: #179 notamolly

That was on FR and was retracted.

Oh jeez.

re: #179 notamolly

That was on FR and was retracted.

OK I'm slow tonight. What's FR? Retracted I got.

re: #176 mikeymom

Probably, but rewind your thoughts about five years. Someone tells you that General Motors has gone bust and the government has bought it.
Now how out there does it seem?

IT"S WORKING!...
400k jobs lost as opposed to 380k jobs lost

re: #185 tradewind

not the same at all.

re: #182 mikeymom

then why keep a stupid rumor going?

I asked if it was real or not. How is that keeping a stupid rumor going?

#147 avanti

That won't change no matter how health insurance is paid for. I think the point is that hospice care should be offered as a option in terminal patients. The medical industry would rather hook you up to all their fancy gadgets to extend your life for a short time even if you are in pain. I think you should have the option of dieing at home, and not hooked up to a machine...

What are you talking about?! Hospice IS covered under insurance. And as of right now, that's a CHOICE we all still have. The medical industry never forces anyone to be hooked up to anything. Ever heard of the 5 Wishes?

re: #186 albusteve

You get a whiff of desperation floating around the WH...smells like Obama team spirit.

re: #135 tradewind

What bothers me is the formulaic aspect of it. I'm thinking of two elderly men I know, both nearing ninety: one still goes to his office daily, farms on the weekends, and walks four miles every day for exercise... the other can hardly get around. The thought of them being treated equally if a procedure ... say a hipe replacement ...was needed is creeping me out.

it is nightmarish. it will cause so much sorrow and mental suffering to those watching their loved ones deteriorate.
it will make people feel desperate, helpless and vulnerable.

Top Obama Backer Warns Ending F-22 Production Is 'Real Mistake'
Retired Gen. Merrill McPeak, who was the Air Force chief of staff during the 1991 Operation Desert Storm and who credited air power with winning the war, was the first four-star officer to endorse the one-term senator in his presidential campaign. Now he's criticizing the president on a key defense decision.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Reality is a bitch General?

re: #157 LGoPs

I'm not trying to be snarky but I remain undyingly skeptical of the governments decision making ability. Technically speaking, we are all terminal

Not snarky, it's real issue, and as technology improves, it'll be more so. With enough machines and expensive meds, we can prolong life at least a few days, but at what expense and quality of life ?
It's a choice I hope will always remain with the family.

That damn Bush left us with a $680 Billion dollar deficit!
Waddya say we Triple Down?
- Zero

Obamanomics. Spend until it gets better.

re: #187 mikeymom

I didn't mean the two were the same or related... just that the unthinkable is rapidly becoming the future.

re: #186 albusteve

IT"S WORKING!...
400k jobs lost as opposed to 380k jobs lost

The smartest thing anyone out of work right now is to take a Civil Service test...The Gov't is going to be hiring big time in the next year... I promise you

re: #168 notamolly

Question for the lizards: Is it true that 0bama has mandatory assisted suicide counseling every 5 years in their health plan?

This administration is already working towards it's own assisted suicide. It's called the upcoming elections.

re: #147 avanti

That won't change no matter how health insurance is paid for. I think the point is that hospice care should be offered as a option in terminal patients. The medical industry would rather hook you up to all their fancy gadgets to extend your life for a short time even if you are in pain. I think you should have the option of dieing at home, and not hooked up to a machine.
If it was up to me. I'd like a knob to control my morphine drip, so I can decide when I tired of the pain.

Avanti -Hospice care is offered.

re: #153 avanti

Still waiting on that 'better news', avant.

And unemployment plummeting from 9.8% to 9.7% doesn't count.

re: #161 Cannadian Club Akbar

Got a topper.
Friend of mine in scored a big custom home in Laguna Beach. The const. budget was 9 million. About the time they started signing subs, the owners wife decided she didn't want a big new house. She wanted a divorce and half the money. My friend got paid for what he had started, but nothing close to the 3 yrs. work he would have had.

re: #163 Racer X

Link?

"We didn't screw things up as bad as we thought, isn't that good news you stupid peasants"
/Obama admin.

re: #197 LGoPs

This administration is already working towards it's own assisted suicide. It's called the upcoming elections.

From your mouth to God's ears!

re: #194 Racer X

That damn Bush left us with a $680 Billion dollar deficit!
Waddya say we Triple Down?
- Zero

Obamanomics. Spend until it gets better.

I use that philosophy in Atlantic City all the time, which explains why horns and confetti go off the minute I walk into any casino?

re: #195 tradewind

I didn't mean the two were the same or related... just that the unthinkable is rapidly becoming the future.

to a point- but jeez-mandatory asst suicide counseling?? cmon

avanti...you have repeatedly been beat down for your socialism...3 wood has schooled you time and again, and others as well...the US economy does not revolve around the availability of cheap Studefucker parts...you see hope because you drank the magic kool aid...the change you hope for is a noose around your very own neck...look in a mirror and ask yourself, how stupid is that?

Horrible low-life a-hole gets one year in jail for placing a kitten in a hot oven to die.

ydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/07/15/2009-07-15_cheyenne_cherry_taunts_animal_activists_after_getting_plea_deal_killing_kitten_i.html

Hi Cal. You are lurking. Come out and say hi (only if you want to).

re: #199 Fenway_Nation

Still waiting on that 'better news', avant.

And unemployment plummeting from 9.8% to 9.7% doesn't count.

Yeah that's voodoo economic like eating a short stops's contract worth 13 million a year?

re: #198 debutaunt

Avanti -Hospice care is offered.

Well, it depends. When my Dad went, it took the Hospital some creative "treatment" to provide him with hospice care, which despite a damned good policy from a damned good state, was not covered. The details, I don't know, but those are facts.

re: #147 avanti

That won't change no matter how health insurance is paid for. I think the point is that hospice care should be offered as a option in terminal patients. The medical industry would rather hook you up to all their fancy gadgets to extend your life for a short time even if you are in pain. I think you should have the option of dieing at home, and not hooked up to a machine.
If it was up to me. I'd like a knob to control my morphine drip, so I can decide when I tired of the pain.

Hospice has been an option for a very long time - in fact, it was the standard for thousands of years. It's only recently that people expected to die anywhere but home. Currently, most policies cover hospice care when the doctor gives the person less than 6 months to live. That is a judgment call. Under the bureaucratic nightmare of Obamacare, there will be pressure on doctors and patients to go to hospice earlier, because palliative care is cheaper than aggressive treatment. If you think that decision will remain between you and your doctor, you are delusional.

oops

[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

re: #193 avanti

Not snarky, it's real issue, and as technology improves, it'll be more so. With enough machines and expensive meds, we can prolong life at least a few days, but at what expense and quality of life ?
It's a choice I hope will always remain with the family.

Then that is inconsistent with your support of Obama becuase under his plan it is inevitable that the government will decide.

#147 avanti

One more thing:

If it was up to me. I'd like a knob to control my morphine drip, so I can decide when I tired of the pain.

If Obama gets his way, it will NEVER be up to you. They'll decide whether or not you get your morphine drip, how much, how often. Don't you get it? You won't be deciding anything with Obamacare. They will decide for you.

re: #190 tradewind

You get a whiff of desperation floating around the WH...smells like Obama team spirit.

they keep tossing their avanti shit speakers out there to die...what a joke

re: #197 LGoPs

This administration is already working towards it's own assisted suicide. It's called the upcoming elections.

Let's hope so.
.
Hello Lizardia!

re: #160 Alouette

Name one thing that is getting better.

The stock market is up over 30%,(almost a years record rise this week) the banks are in much better shape, GM and Chrysler are still making cars, new housing starts are moving up, credit card write offs are declining, job losses are decreasing and predictions are we will be in full recovery by years end.

re: #215 callahan23

Let's hope so.
.
Hello Lizardia!

About time...Was she cute?
*wink*

re: #207 snowcrash

Hi Cal. You are lurking. Come out and say hi (only if you want to).

{snowcrash}

re: #196 HoosierHoops

The smartest thing anyone out of work right now is to take a Civil Service test...The Gov't is going to be hiring big time in the next year... I promise you

if stupidity were an asset, avanti would be a millionaire

re: #215 callahan23
Hi Cal.

re: #216 avanti

I call Bullshiite.

re: #200 poteen

I didn't lose money. My company laid most off. I have 5 acres and a 3/2/2, pole barn. Wanna buy?
/

re: #216 avanti

This from the president who said the didn't pay attention to the 'day-to-day' gyrations of the market?

Sorry...but if he can disown the stock markets when they're tanking on him, don't think he can suddenly take credit for their turnaround...

re: #221 tradewind

I call Bullshiite.

I call Bullshevik

I'm not sure yet how to react to this serio-surreal opinion piece. It's from Pravda lecturing the US on development of nuclear power...

America, as much of the world knows, is out of energy. Despite importing a quarter of the world's oil, it is out of energy and being now a Leftist nation, it is in the gravity well of the black hole of "clean energy". What this of course means is, fake renewable energy. Of course there is no such thing as the cost in input energy to create the windmills and solar cells far outlasts what they can actually produce in their short lives.

America is also bankrupt.

The only hope that America has is to recreate its industry and to do that it needs cheap energy, something wind turbines will never give you. They might be great for crushing wheat kernels but not for generating electricity.

Enter stage right, Russia.

You want to set the reset button? You want to cut nuclear weapons? You want an electrical grid low in carbon dioxide (not that it really matters in the real world but we'll pretend it does)? You want industry to grow and jobs for your people?

Well welcome Mr. Civilian Nuclear Power or Mr CiNP or rather Mr. Russian CiNP. Russia is an expert on building nuclear power plant. Yes, before you start, Chernobyl happened and it was a freak accurance (unless you buy into the theory it was staged and knowing the CIA/MI6 it just may have been) but a lot of lessons were learned from it. Furthermore, unlike the US, which has not built a nuclear station in over thirty years, Russia has vast experience in both this and in turning nuclear weapons material into safe nuclear rods for nuclear power plants...no giant explosion guaranteed or your money back.

The advantages are many. Unlike wind turbines or solar cells, a nuclear power station will last over fifty years and provide not only hundreds of jobs in construction but hundreds of jobs in running it. It also takes up a much smaller foot print, both on the ground and visually than hundreds of rusting metal poles, sticking hundreds of meters in the air. But best of all, nuclear power costs a mere 2 rubles an hour, or about 6 American cents, compare that to wind, which runs closer to 20 rubles.

So, from 2,100 to 1,500 each, that is a yield of 1,200 nuclear decommissioned warheads, more than enough fuel to power most of the United States and Russia for decades to come. Remember, this is enriched Plutonium, not low grade Uranium.

So here is the deal: send Russia the nuclear warheads, and your inspectors. We will reprocess them for a fee. We will build your reactors and ship them to you, while you build the controls and housing. We will install them and get it up and running, and as Prime Minister Putin, early last year offered, we will, for another fee, take your spent fuel rods and dispose of them also, down some very deep hole in our Siberian mountains...do not worry, thanks to the Soviets, we have plenty.

This will help our economy, this will help your economy, this will help the poor little eagles being turned into stir fry by the giant turbines. Best of all, the Watermelons will hate it and despise it, while sitting in their air conditioned houses (or heated) behind their electricity eating computers.

re: #121 debutaunt

I just think we want to make those decisions ourselves.

Amen!

When my grandmother had a stroke in her nineties in a private nursing home and the choice was a feeding tube in her stomach or death by starvation, she wanted the feeding tube. She lived for about another 5 years. She and her entire family benefitted from that decision.

Obama has made it clear that 'they' will be making those kinds of decisons for all of us now.

re: #216 avanti

The stock market is up over 30%,(almost a years record rise this week) the banks are in much better shape, GM and Chrysler are still making cars, new housing starts are moving up, credit card write offs are declining, job losses are decreasing and predictions are we will be in full recovery by years end.

GM and Chrysler are making the same shitty cars no one wanted to buy before and now the new Car Czar is the former head of the UAW? Yeah I'm optimistic things are going to be just fine?

Kulaks edge out Peasants; Serfs still sucking it up.

re: #216 avanti

The stock market is up over 30%,(almost a years record rise this week) the banks are in much better shape, GM and Chrysler are still making cars, new housing starts are moving up, credit card write offs are declining, job losses are decreasing and predictions are we will be in full recovery by years end.

Could the Dow drop as much next week or is the decline over and why?

re: #141 jcm

The Taser XREP uses my companies chip. No we did not do full up testing.

Very cool. I'll just assume it works fine.

re: #219 albusteve

if stupidity were an asset, avanti would be a millionaire

Not with this junta in the white house.

re: #174 JacksonTn

avanti ... you sure about this:

The medical industry would rather hook you up to all their fancy gadgets to extend your life for a short time even if you are in pain.

I know many people including my parents who have died and the insurance companies and medicare always asked if they wanted hospice ... it cost way less to die at home ... but it should be left up to the individual ... not the government ...

Oh, and Lincoln Davis says he will not sign the Health Reform Bill "if" it says government will pay for abortion ... well, guess ole Lincoln will be getting another call from me come Monday ... that spineless jerk better not sign it for any reason ... he knows the vast majority of the people in his district do not want the bill to pass ... he is looking for a way out and will hide under Pelosi's skirt ...

Then we are already doing what Obams suggested, informing about the option. I bought the old story that hospital could make money by using all the new gadgets and encouraging patients to stay in the hospital.

And if misery didn't love company, I am looking at dropping 80K on chef school. Am I an idiot or what?

re: #147 avanti

I think you should have the option of dieing at home, and not hooked up to a machine.

Hey, guess what? You have that option NOW!
"0" 's gunna change all that bruddah...

Your "0"(pronounced zero) is a disaster.

The amazing part I see is this, It is predicted that so many jobs will be lost.
The key word here is predicted, The numbers fall short and here comes some apologist saying thats an improvement.
Its not, Nothing improved.

re: #123 brookly red

Barney's motto; "What is behind me is not important!"

re: #221 tradewind

I call Bullshiite.

Shocked I am. :)

re: #216 avanti

The stock market is up over 30%,(almost a years record rise this week) the banks are in much better shape, GM and Chrysler are still making cars, new housing starts are moving up, credit card write offs are declining, job losses are decreasing and predictions are we will be in full recovery by years end.

what?...the market is up from where?...the banks are flush because nobody can borrow...credit card write offs come out of your pocket...new housing starts are up? from where?... I wanna see a link...

re: #233 Cannadian Club Akbar

And if misery didn't love company, I am looking at dropping 80K on chef school. Am I an idiot or what?

People gotta eat, don't they?

re: #228 haakondahl

Kulaks edge out Peasants; Serfs still sucking it up.

And where are the peons in this race?

re: #162 jcm

I love this line... "Last week, the United Nations Committee Against Torture ruled that the Taser gun is a form of torture, and "can even provoke death.""

I'm picturing someone tweaking a Bergmanesque reaper's nose.

re: #216 avanti

The stock market is up over 30%,(almost a years record rise this week) the banks are in much better shape, GM and Chrysler are still making cars, new housing starts are moving up, credit card write offs are declining, job losses are decreasing and predictions are we will be in full recovery by years end.

And only 6% of the stimulus was spent, so...the F*cking government needs to get the H-E-double hockey sticks out the private sector. Despite the unprecedented takeover of private business by this completely leftist government, our system is slogging to recover.

Government. Out. Of. The. Private. Sector. NOW!

re: #237 avanti

Shocked I am. :)

You will be after your therapy session./

Are there any scotch drinking Lizards around? My favorite doctor is retiring and apparently drinks malt scotch; I do not know one scotch from another and would appreciate a recommendation. I would hate to bring him a bottle of really crappy booze! TIA!

re: #225 Pianobuff

I'm not sure yet how to react to this serio-surreal opinion piece. It's from Pravda lecturing the US on development of nuclear power...

OMG, they actually have a good point. I wouldn't let Russians build me a dog house, let alone a nuclear reactor, but they are exactly right about the potential of nuclear energy.

re: #241 Pianobuff

I love this line... "Last week, the United Nations Committee Against Torture ruled that the Taser gun is a form of torture, and "can even provoke death.""

I'm picturing someone tweaking a Bergmanesque reaper's nose.

Death has been provoked?
Oh the humanity.
/Did I have to?

re: #244 fluffy bunny

Are there any scotch drinking Lizards around? My favorite doctor is retiring and apparently drinks malt scotch; I do not know one scotch from another and would appreciate a recommendation. I would hate to bring him a bottle of really crappy booze! TIA!

How much do you want to spend

re: #232 avanti

avant ... yeah but doesn't everything just sound so much better when Obama says it ... drool ...

will Congress and the Obama family give up their healthcare and be on the same crap they want everyone else to be covered under ... they may say you can keep what you have for now ... that will change ... and what would be so wrong with taking some time ... why stay up all night and try to get this done fast ...

re: #244 fluffy bunny

Glenmorangie is good.
[Link: collapsaform.blogspot.com...]

re: #239 Nevergiveup

People gotta eat, don't they?

Yes. At $300 a plate.

re: #141 jcm
Very nice. I like this one though. lol

re: #242 Russkilitlover

And only 6% of the stimulus was spent, so...the F*cking government needs to get the H-E-double hockey sticks out the private sector. Despite the unprecedented takeover of private business by this completely leftist government, our system is slogging to recover.

Government. Out. Of. The. Private. Sector. NOW!

My dream is that not all the money will be spent, but that can't be announced until the economy recovers.

re: #244 fluffy bunny

Are there any scotch drinking Lizards around? My favorite doctor is retiring and apparently drinks malt scotch; I do not know one scotch from another and would appreciate a recommendation. I would hate to bring him a bottle of really crappy booze! TIA!

I like The Balvini. Nice single malt. About $70. Comes in a circular cardboard tube.

re: #244 fluffy bunny

He would probably be very happy with a bottle of Macallan.

re: #216 avanti

The stock market is up over 30%,(almost a years record rise this week) the banks are in much better shape, GM and Chrysler are still making cars, new housing starts are moving up, credit card write offs are declining, job losses are decreasing and predictions are we will be in full recovery by years end.

What the hell kind of world do you live in? Do you actually work in any type of productive sector like manufacturing?

re: #219 albusteve

if stupidity were an asset, avanti would be a millionaire

I need to piggyback off my post..Seriously lizards if you are out of work..Take a civil service test...they will be hiring..ALOT.
When i got out of College... Mare Island was giving tests for Nuclear workers on Submarines... I said what the hell...Trust me..I never really studied much in College and have never been considered a heavy weight in most classes..
A 1000 people took the test.. I scored in the top 10.. I couldn't believe there were 990 people dumber than me that day...It was like a miracle.. I got my choice of codes to go to.. I went x99 nuke for 20 years..
Take the test...trust me..there are a lot of dumb people out there...
LOL
sorry Charles...But you have to admit it's pretty funny

re: #244 fluffy bunny

Strahisla-- very good stuff.

Speyburn-- pretty good

Auchentoshan--nice.

re: #247 Nevergiveup

I was thinking up to $100.00...too cheap?

re: #218 callahan23

{snowcrash}

Bout time you got in here. ;)
Hows my buddy?

re: #237 avanti

It seemed simpler than posting links to take apart each of your premises, none of which is in context. For example ' new housing starts are up ' is hardly a good thing with the huge oversupply of existing inventory unsold, a major bank in GA failed this morning, and TOTUS' predictions of unemployment caps and dollar figures have already been shot to hell.
(Yoda you are not)...
:)

re: #252 avanti

My dream is that not all the money will be spent, but that can't be announced until the economy recovers.

Democrats are born for only one purpose: To spend other people's money