US Announces $200M to Palestinians

Middle EastJuly 2009 • Views: 3,291

It’s a good thing we’re not having any kind of recession or financial crisis or massive deficit or anything like that here in the US, so we can afford to send $200 million in aid to Palestinians.

And that’s just the first installment — we’ve promised almost a billion smackeroos to Fatah.

WASHINGTON, July 24 (Reuters) - Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Friday there had been some progress toward reviving Israeli-Palestinian peace talks in the “near future” and announced $200 million in U.S. aid to the Palestinians.

Clinton said the money, which is part of a $900 million pledge she made in March at a donors conference in Egypt, was transferred directly to the Western-backed Palestinian Authority and would help it meet a budget shortfall.

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166 comments

livefreeor die Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:06:19pm

WTF.

lobo91 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:06:35pm

Semtex is expensive, you know.

kynna Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:06:47pm

How else will their leaders become billionaires?

//spit

[deleted] Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:07:09pm

[deleted] Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:07:15pm

Charles Johnson Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:07:51pm

Billion here, billion there, pretty soon it's real money.

Cathypop Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:08:06pm

I don't give a shit about the Palestinians?

swamprat Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:08:21pm

We are buying cred with saudi. Everything else is BS.

opnion Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:09:37pm

This isn't much of surprise, Did we toss in guidance systems?

jaunte Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:09:58pm

"...would help it meet a budget shortfall."

Nice that the administration is staying on top of budget shortfalls.

swamprat Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:10:12pm

re: #4 buzzsawmonkey

Candy-gram for Mongo!

Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:10:28pm

Stimulus!

[deleted] Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:10:39pm

jaunte Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:10:52pm

re: #12 Killgore Trout

Boom!

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:11:19pm

Hillary Clinton said on Friday there had been some progress toward reviving Israeli-Palestinian peace talks

TRANSLATION

The PA will "play nicey nice" right up till the last installment is in their bank account, and then after that, not so much!

Dear Current and Future Administrations. We have BEEN HERE BEFORE WITH THE PALESTINIANS. Please learn from, or even READ history!

Pianobuff Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:13:31pm

Thank you President Obama. You rock!

Sincerely,

The Weapons Dealers

Truck Monkey Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:13:34pm

re: #6 Charles

BTrillion here, bTrillion there, pretty soon it's real money.

We have to throw down the T word so as we don't look like pikers.

The Other Les Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:13:46pm

Hey! Let's dig up the NSDAP and give them some money too!

/sarcasm!

kynna Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:13:52pm

re: #15 sattv4u2

Hillary Clinton said on Friday there had been some progress toward reviving Israeli-Palestinian peace talks

TRANSLATION

The PA will "play nicey nice" right up till the last installment is in their bank account, and then after that, not so much!

Dear Current and Future Administrations. We have BEEN HERE BEFORE WITH THE PALESTINIANS. Please learn from, or even READ history!

The PA will say they're going to play nicey-nice. They won't actually follow that up with any nicey-nice behavior. Right now, absent the bribes, they aren't even talking the talk. And the left loves the talk enough to pay big $$ for it.

Age Of Freedom Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:14:00pm

I would suggest they'd spend the money on shipping beer, but alcohol may cause more trouble in the already troubled "western-backed" PA.

freedombilly Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:14:17pm

I wish I didn't have a conscience because I would check out of the news indefinitely. I get angrier with every day that passes lately with the direction our country is headed in. Must go listen to some Beethoven and decompress.

WTF?!?

TedStriker Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:15:26pm

*retch*

calcajun Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:15:28pm

re: #18 The Other Les

Sigh. We're doomed. Pop open another beer and watch our world dissolve.

danrudy Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:15:58pm

You are missing the point. THis is to pay for Healthcare for the Palestinians.
Ultimately is will end up in smaller expenditures and decreased government donations from USA.

pat Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:16:33pm

Obama is buying the bullets to shoot us with.

The Other Les Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:16:55pm

re: #23 calcajun

Sigh. We're doomed. Pop open another beer and watch our world dissolve.

I'd like to buy the world a ~~Coke~~ beer.

callahan23 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:17:04pm

... was transferred directly to the Western-backed Palestinian Authority and would help it meet a budget shortfall.

Since when have they not been in a budget shortfall these corrupt kleptocrats.

Kosh's Shadow Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:18:02pm

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lobo91 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:18:05pm

re: #27 callahan23

Since when have they not been in a budget shortfall these corrupt kleptocrats.

Since they have zero GDP, I'd say they've pretty much always had one.

opnion Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:18:37pm

re: #24 danrudy

You are missing the point. THis is to pay for Healthcare for the Palestinians.
Ultimately is will end up in smaller expenditures and decreased government donations from USA.

/s

That's true. It is a well known fact that Palistinian doctors like to pull out tonsils, even if you just have a sore throat.
This money will disuade those practices.

Truck Monkey Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:18:37pm

re: #24 danrudy

You are missing the point. THis is to pay for Healthcare for the Palestinians.
Ultimately is will end up in smaller expenditures and decreased government donations from USA.

/s

And it will somehow make out deficits much smaller as well.
//

calcajun Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:18:45pm

re: #26 The Other Les

I'd like to buy the world a ~~Coke~~ beer.

//

And so would, it seems, our POTUS. Wouldn't the irony have been even better if Crowley had to decline because he was in AA?

[deleted] Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:19:07pm

TedStriker Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:19:34pm

re: #25 pat

Obama is buying the bullets to shoot us Israelis with.

FTFY (unfortunately)...

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:19:48pm

re: #27 callahan23

Since when have they not been in a budget shortfall these corrupt kleptocrats.

Wha,,, you think it's cheap to go into someones house and tell them the "plan"?

recruit
"so I walk into the pizza parlor with this belt thing on and you want e to do WHAT?"

recruits family
"just do it Achmed,,, you'll be FAMOUS and we'll be taken care of for life!"

Paul Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:19:59pm

Money we borrowed from the Chinese will help pay for the military equipment the Palestinians will buy from the Chinese. Makes sense to someone, I guess.

Truck Monkey Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:21:10pm

re: #36 Paul

Money we borrowed from the Chinese will help pay for the military equipment the Palestinians will buy from the Chinese. Makes sense to someone, I guess.

And our grandkids and great grandkids will be paying for it well into the future. God damn I'm proud.

calcajun Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:21:15pm

re: #33 buzzsawmonkey

With an "as is" disclaimer, too.

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:21:29pm

re: #33 buzzsawmonkey

Since we value human beings beyond mere money, can't we just give them Cynthia McKinney to keep and call it even?

One Of These Things Is Not Like The Other,,,

swamprat Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:21:47pm

Maybe they can bribe the Egyptians to end the siege...Oh yeah, nobody is supposed to know that Palestine has an Egyptian border and the Egyptians are also keeping the Palestinians oppressed. Not a frigging word about this bit of geo-political reality!

lobo91 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:21:56pm

re: #36 Paul

Money we borrowed from the Chinese will help pay for the military equipment the Palestinians will buy from the Chinese. Makes sense to someone, I guess.

The Chinese think it's brilliant.

callahan23 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:22:38pm

re: #29 lobo91

Since they have zero GDP, I'd say they've pretty much always had one.

Remember Arafishs' widow? Chockfull of money that byatch.

avanti Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:22:40pm

Not that it matters, but we've been doing it for years:

"The United States Agency for International Development (USAID) funds programs that help people living in the West Bank and Gaza lead healthier and more productive lives. Since 1993, Palestinians have received more than $2.2 billion in U.S. economic assistance via USAID projects - more than from any other donor country."

link.

Truck Monkey Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:22:47pm

re: #39 sattv4u2

One Of These Things Is Not Like The Other,,,

//

RACIST! Maybe you need to go have a beer at Bamis house with Gates and Crowley.

///

beens21 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:23:19pm

and they threaten to withhold aid to Honduras for removing a leftist wannabe dictator. Reward Fatah killers and punish struggling democracies. Makes perfect sense for Obama.

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:24:47pm

re: #43 avanti

Not that it matters, but we've been doing it for years

It DOES matter ,,, hence my #15

And excusing bad policy by citing OTHER bad policy is childish at best, I won;t say at worst!

Lee Coller Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:25:56pm

Isn't thisre: #43 avanti

Not that it matters, but we've been doing it for years:

"The United States Agency for International Development (USAID) funds programs that help people living in the West Bank and Gaza lead healthier and more productive lives. Since 1993, Palestinians have received more than $2.2 billion in U.S. economic assistance via USAID projects - more than from any other donor country."

link.

I believe we stopped once Hamas took over (not that there's much difference between Hamas and Fatah -- one's just a little more honest about who they are than the other).

callahan23 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:26:36pm

re: #45 beens21

and they threaten to withhold aid to Honduras for removing a leftist wannabe dictator. Reward Fatah killers and punish struggling democracies. Makes perfect sense for Obama.

That's the new new new world order we're living in.
///

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:27:25pm

re: #44 Truck Monkey

RACIST! Maybe you need to go have a beer at Bamis house with Gates and Crowley.

///

I'd have a beer with Cynthia, or even her father Billy as long as he promised to leave the knife at home he pulled on another Georgia State congressman IN the House chambers!

opnion Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:27:38pm

re: #36 Paul

Money we borrowed from the Chinese will help pay for the military equipment the Palestinians will buy from the Chinese. Makes sense to someone, I guess.

Doesn't Hamas buy from Russia? This is unfair to just let the Chineese sell weapons. Hamas needs some stimulus so the Russians can feel the love.

lobo91 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:27:38pm

re: #43 avanti

The United States Agency for International Development (USAID) funds programs that help people living in the West Bank and Gaza lead healthier and more productive lives.

link.

Since the Palestinians produced nothing in the past, and produce nothing today, that sentence is a lie.

Racer X Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:28:00pm

I voted against this on Nov 4th.

haakondahl Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:28:20pm

re: #23 calcajun

Sigh. We're doomed. Pop open another beer and watch our world dissolve.

Pssht!

JPL17 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:28:28pm

But you're overlooking the $16.5 million savings realized when Obama cancelled that amount of military aid to Honduras, to punish them for restoring constitutional order to their country. With that savings, Obama's net increased spending to the Palestinian Authority is only $183.5 million. Sheesh.

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:29:04pm

re: #52 Racer X

I voted against this on Nov 4th.

not enough times though!

Too bad you weren't a Dem,,, then your voteS would count!

Killgore Trout Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:29:20pm

re: #52 Racer X

I voted against this on Nov 4th.

Rudy was our only hope to put a stop to this. Bush sent them tons of money too. McCain would have done the same.

haakondahl Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:29:22pm

re: #33 buzzsawmonkey

Since we value human beings beyond mere money, can't we just give them Cynthia McKinney to keep and call it even?

Nope.

haakondahl Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:29:57pm

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Rudy was our only hope to put a stop to this. Bush sent them tons of money too. McCain would have done the same.

Amen! I didn't realize that you were a Rudy guy.

theheat Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:30:19pm

But if we didn't send them money we don't have, they wouldn't like us. We want them to like us.

I'd say a $900 million shot in the arm here in the States would help, instead, but I'm sure the government would find ways to piss that away before it ever trickled down to benefit the population, or anything that mattered. We've pissed away billions, already, in ill-fated stimulus packages.

It's never enough money. Never will be.

Sharmuta Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:30:45pm

I'm pale and actually like Jews and Israel. If Hillary would give me the money instead, I promise I won't damage peaceful relations with any other country, and I will buy all LGFers a beer.

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:31:18pm

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Rudy was our only hope to put a stop to this. Bush sent them tons of money too. McCain would have done the same.

please see #46

ArmyWife Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:31:33pm

Ay yi yi. I just ... I am...this is...oh darn. I can't say what I really want without turning myself in to Stinky.

Racer X Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:31:52pm

re: #56 Killgore Trout

McCain would have done the same.

You are probably right. McCain was the most center-leaning Republican nominated in recent history, and the left painted him as a war-mongering, right-wing conservative.

Ughh.

Cathypop Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:31:59pm

re: #60 Sharmuta

I'm pale and actually like Jews and Israel. If Hillary would give me the money instead, I promise I won't damage peaceful relations with any other country, and I will buy all LGFers a beer.

You got my vote.

Sharmuta Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:32:01pm

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Rudy was our only hope to put a stop to this. Bush sent them tons of money too. McCain would have done the same.

Rudy was the only one who got it. *sigh*

haakondahl Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:32:06pm

re: #43 avanti

Not that it matters, but we've been doing it for years:

"The United States Agency for International Development (USAID) funds programs that help people living in the West Bank and Gaza lead healthier and more productive lives. Since 1993, Palestinians have received more than $2.2 billion in U.S. economic assistance via USAID projects - more than from any other donor country."

No shi, nola. Search LGF for "red folder".

MandyManners Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:32:11pm

How many Jordyptians in Iraq who supported Hussein (the one we beat in a war) are we bringing to the U.S.? More than 1,000?

Cathypop Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:32:42pm

re: #62 ArmyWife

Ay yi yi. I just ... I am...this is...oh darn. I can't say what I really want without turning myself in to Stinky.

How about this
%^$$%(*&^$%%!!$#%&*^&%%$^&**(((^&%$##

MandyManners Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:32:56pm

re: #60 Sharmuta

I'm pale and actually like Jews and Israel. If Hillary would give me the money instead, I promise I won't damage peaceful relations with any other country, and I will buy all LGFers a beer.

Dang. For that kind of money, you could buy us all a bottle of Basil Hayden's.

Sharmuta Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:33:05pm

re: #64 Cathypop

You got my vote.

Vote? Show me the money.

Cathypop Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:33:39pm

re: #70 Sharmuta

Give me my beer first!

MandyManners Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:33:43pm

re: #69 MandyManners

Dang. For that kind of money, you could buy us all a bottle of Basil Hayden's.

Each, that is.

avanti Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:34:08pm

re: #52 Racer X

I voted against this on Nov 4th.

I have no idea who you voted for, the aid been given for over 15 years apparently. Yet another Bush policy that Obama followed that I'm not fond of.

"President Bush has proposed a sixfold increase in aid to the Palestinians, including $150 million in direct cash transfers to the Palestinian Authority, in an effort to bolster the government in advance of a Middle East peace conference planned for later this month in Annapolis.

The $435 million in additional aid, on top of $77 million requested earlier this year, has attracted little notice in the president's $45.9 billion supplemental request last week to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But, if approved, it would constitute the administration's largest amount of direct aid to the Palestinian Authority. "

link.

lurking faith Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:34:23pm

re: #51 lobo91

Since the Palestinians produced nothing in the past, and produce nothing today, that sentence is a lie.

Hey, if they're nonproductive, does that we can deny them healthcare?
/tag as you like

Gella Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:34:46pm

they are insane

callahan23 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:36:05pm

re: #68 Cathypop

How about this
%^$$%(*&^$%%!!$#%&*^&%%$^&**(((^&%$##

What's it mean, my nic is blue.
;-)

MacDuff Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:36:26pm

Regardless of of all of the Hillary statements about Iran "not getting nukes", this is no more bait and switch from the Obama administration. Not only do they "not get it", they don't want to "get it". This isn't a difference in opionion, it's a difference in agenda and THAT'S what the American people need to understand.

lobo91 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:37:04pm

re: #69 MandyManners

Dang. For that kind of money, you could buy us all a bottle of Basil Hayden's.

I'll take one of these.

[deleted] Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:39:14pm

ladycatnip Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:39:35pm

Can't we do anything to stop this insanity? Gotta hold Obama accountable for this and all the other crap that's in his stimulus bill - the bill no one bothered to read, iirc.

[deleted] Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:39:38pm

Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:39:48pm

$74 trillion

/not clear on the concept of where that's going to come from

haakondahl Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:39:58pm

re: #79 buzzsawmonkey

Aw, geez. Why not?

Truth in advertising laws.

Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:40:22pm

But don't you see?

If the U.S. and Europe didn't send billions to the Palis, they would collapse and then have to make peace in order build up their own economy. And then once they actually had an economy, going to war wouldn't be so attractive.

We couldn't have that.

No, no, much easier this way.

The arab regimes get to point the Islamists somewhere else and divert their masses from the horrible conditions that obtain there. We keep the oil flowing.

I mean could you image what the oil business would look like if there were educated Arabs in these states who wanted a share of their nation's wealth? It'd be $10 a gallon of gas.

It's tough on the Jews, but since when has the West really cared about them anyway? Besides, the idea of getting off of oil is just anti American. Better this way.

///

ArmyWife Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:40:53pm

re: #73 avanti

We know. I think you'll find a lot of posts on here railing against this. It doesn't matter who does it, it's bad for us and bad for Israel. Putting an "R" behind the President's name doesn't make it better. The fact this country is currently in worse financial straights than under Bush compounds the issue, for me.

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:41:35pm

re: #73 avanti

and no response to #46. Just a replay of "don't blame Obama,,, someone ELSE did it too!"

sigh!

Kosh's Shadow Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:42:03pm

re: #42 callahan23

Remember Arafishs' widow? Chockfull of money that byatch.

Yes, she sent me email to help me get it out of wherever it is stuck.
/yes, someone did send me spam claiming to be her; I was to contact her solicitor, a Mr. Batman. I saved it for a good laugh.

lobo91 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:42:59pm

re: #81 buzzsawmonkey

Hops and change!

I just noticed that that bottle of Millennium Ale is here in CO. Wife's out of town...

She'd probably notice the $500 debit transaction, though. Guess not.

Racer X Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:43:39pm

The Big Corona

Click to enlarge.

No, its not beer.

ArmyWife Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:43:42pm

re: #88 lobo91

Word to the wise - we can smell that stuff out in lightening speed. I'm here to help.

solomonpanting Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:43:44pm

Clinton said the money, which is part of a $900 million pledge she made in March at a donors conference in Egypt,...

I thought a donor gave heart, eyes, etc. I didn't realize our "soul" was on the list.

jaunte Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:44:00pm

re: #73 avanti

You might have missed this in the spinoffs:

"The following report details the embezzlement of US taxpayer funding by Yasir Arafat and other members of the Palestinian National Authority. The enclosed reports indicate that the controls established by the World Bank were circumvented by the PA to enrich the coffers of the embezzlers. This thievery was brought to the attention of the US Administration in the summer of 1995 and ignored, with no controls established for auditing."

sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:44:49pm

re: #89 Racer X

The Big Corona

Click to enlarge.

No, its not beer.

looks more like a big Cornea

Baier Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:44:58pm

It's a sad day when the US can only afford to send one billion dollars to a society that straps bombs to retarded kids and "dishonored" women to kill Jews. What is this world coming to?//
Aloha Snack-Bar!

MandyManners Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:45:49pm

re: #33 buzzsawmonkey

Since we value human beings beyond mere money, can't we just give them Cynthia McKinney to keep and call it even?

Is there a Fork-in-Toaster Salon over there for her to patronize?

dapperdave Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:46:14pm

200 mil. that'll buy a lot of bullets.

lobo91 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:46:40pm

re: #90 ArmyWife

Word to the wise - we can smell that stuff out in lightening speed. I'm here to help.

Even I would have a hard time justifying spending $500 on a bottle of beer.

Guns, on the other hand...

MandyManners Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:46:55pm

re: #78 lobo91

I'll take one of these.

Stuff makes me burp but, go for it.

callahan23 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:47:01pm

re: #87 Kosh's Shadow

Yes, she sent me email to help me get it out of wherever it is stuck.
/yes, someone did send me spam claiming to be her; I was to contact her solicitor, a Mr. Batshitcrazy-Man. I saved it for a good laugh.

More like it.
Heard that already and that to you. LOL

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MandyManners Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:47:33pm

re: #83 haakondahl

Truth in advertising laws.

She's as bat-shit crazy as they.

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:47:41pm

re: #98 MandyManners

Stuff makes me burp but, go for it.

ummm,,, Mandy ,,, if it comes from, BEHIND you ,, it's not a BURP

just sayin!!!

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Lee Coller Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:48:24pm

re: #97 lobo91

Even I would have a hard time justifying spending $500 on a bottle of beer.

Guns, on the other hand...

That reminds me, time to buy another gun. This one gun a month law we have here in California really gets expensive after awhile.

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Killian Bundy Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:48:46pm

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Friday there had been some progress toward reviving Israeli-Palestinian peace talks in the "near future" and announced $200 million in U.S. aid to the Palestinians.
Clinton said the money, which is part of a $900 million pledge she made in March at a donors conference in Egypt, was transferred directly to the Western-backed Palestinian Authority and would help it meet a budget shortfall.

So, do they have to acknowledge Israel's right to exist yet?

/sorry, rhetorical question

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Racer X Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:48:58pm

"Bush did it too!"

Great fucking argument in favor of flushing more money down the toilet.

I knew one moron would waste trillions of dollars. The other moron went on record saying he would consider canceling any non-essential spending.

I voted for the smarter moron.

Clearer?

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:49:43pm

re: #103 Killian Bundy

So, do they have to acknowledge Israel's right to exist yet?

/sorry, rhetorical question

for another 900 million, they will consider considering talking about it

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MandyManners Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:49:46pm

re: #88 lobo91

I just noticed that that bottle of Millennium Ale is here in CO. Wife's out of town...

She'd probably notice the $500 debit transaction, though. Guess not.

Oh, c'mon. Live a little.

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Kosh's Shadow Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:50:17pm

re: #51 lobo91

Since the Palestinians produced nothing in the past, and produce nothing today, that sentence is a lie.

They produce dead Jews.
Is this what the US wants to pay for?

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Render Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:50:47pm

Avanti is (shudder) correct. This is a bi-partisan stupidity and has been for decades.

Unfortunately, US money isn't the half of it...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

"Saudi Arabia is the largest provider of aid to the Palestinian people. Since 2002, Saudi Arabia has given more than $480 million in monetary support to the Palestinian Authority, and has supported Palestinian refugees by contributing to the UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA). Through the Arab League it has provided more than $250 million for the Palestinians, and pledged $500 million in assistance over the next three years at the Donors Conference in Dec 2007. Unlike aid from other nations, Saudi Arabian aid to Palestinians was not disrupted by the election of Hamas."

Now go look up the state budgets of Maryland, Delaware, or any of the smaller New England states and compare them to this link...

[Link: www.cia.gov...]

...and then compare that link to this one...

[Link: www.cia.gov...]

There is no profit to be made in open Jew hatred. This in spite of the sheer number of pedophiles who seem to make a living at it...

JUDGMENT,
R

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HoosierHoops Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:51:23pm

Good evening Lizards...
Great day at the track today.. Jimmy Johnson wins the Brickyard 400...

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MandyManners Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:51:28pm

re: #101 sattv4u2

ummm,,, Mandy ,,, if it comes from, BEHIND you ,, it's not a BURP

just sayin!!!

//

Kid, what are you doing on LGF?

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:51:39pm

re: #104 Racer X

"Bush did it too!"

Great fucking argument in favor of flushing more money down the toilet.

I knew one moron would waste trillions of dollars. The other moron went on record saying he would consider canceling any non-essential spending.

I voted for the smarter moron.

Clearer?

Following this tread, I'm sure that was aimed at Avanti, yet I doubt that
A) he got it
B) if he did, he'll just stick to his "but Bush did it 1st" defense

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FrogMarch Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:51:45pm

all I can say is - SICK.

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:52:47pm

re: #108 Render

Avanti is (shudder) correct.

Nobody said he wasn't, but please see #15 and #46

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callahan23 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:52:54pm

re: #109 HoosierHoops

Good evening Lizards...
Great day at the track today.. Jimmy Johnson wins the Brickyard 400...

So it's been a fine day for you! (Hoopster)

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Render Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:53:05pm

re: #73 avanti

That financial aid goes back a lot further then 15 years. Try Jimmy Carter, 1977.

YOURS?,
R

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Racer X Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:53:10pm

re: #109 HoosierHoops

Good evening Lizards...
Great day at the track today.. Jimmy Johnson wins the Brickyard 400...

Montoya lost it on pit road. Damn.

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Kosh's Shadow Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:53:21pm

re: #91 solomonpanting

I thought a donor gave heart, eyes, etc. I didn't realize our "soul" was on the list.

Don't worry, this money will be used to donate hearts, eyes, and other Israeli body parts, unless the Israelis catch the terrorists first.

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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:53:30pm

Same shit...different day and year - with a horribly worse President. Give'em a trillion, inflation.

...and the Won loves to spend trillions.

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ladycatnip Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:55:11pm

Obama plays golf - again.

President Obama has become quite the golf fanatic since he began his presidency.

The commander in chief is out on the links again today, playing a round at Andrews Air Force Base. This is the 10th time in as many weeks that Obama has found time to squeeze in some golf (all weekends, except for one Monday.)

In fact, the White House press corps has come up with a nickname to refer to the President's golfing habits: "The First Duffer," as they refer to him in pool reports when he's hitting the links.

We have a prez who loves giving our money away and who loves golf. Reassuring that he's busy working on our economic woes and unemployment.

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avanti Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:55:33pm

re: #86 sattv4u2

and no response to #46. Just a replay of "don't blame Obama,,, someone ELSE did it too!"

sigh!

Sorry, I did not say I approved of the aid, but it's been government policy for years. It does not seem to matter which party is at the helm, the aid flows.

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TedStriker Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:56:35pm

re: #106 MandyManners

Oh, c'mon. Live a little.

Problem is, I don't think the wife would let him live after spending $500 on a bottle of beer...

;-P

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Racer X Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:56:44pm

re: #111 sattv4u2

Following this tread, I'm sure that was aimed at Avanti, yet I doubt that
A) he got it
B) if he did, he'll just stick to his "but Bush did it 1st" defense

I got nothing against Avanti. He has his opinion and I have mine. We are in challenging economic times right now. Bullshit spending has got to stop - we cannot continue like this. The Democrats are doubling and tripling down on spending like crazy. Its madness.

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:58:38pm

re: #120 avanti

Sorry, I did not say I approved of the aid, but it's been government policy for years. It does not seem to matter which party is at the helm, the aid flows.

But you've been excusing Obama for doing it instead of condemning HIM.

I condemned the Bush admin for doing it. I condemned EVERY Admin since the Carter years for doing it

As you often say, OBAMA is the President NOW.

SO ,,,HE takes the responsibility, accolades AND condemnations that come with the office

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 3:59:29pm

re: #121 talon_262

Problem is, I don't think the wife would let him live after spending $500 on a bottle of beer...

;-P

Mine would, as long as I bought HER a $1,000 somthin!

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HoosierHoops Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:00:52pm

re: #116 Racer X

Montoya lost it on pit road. Damn.

Great race! Plus lots of cute girls at the track...

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:02:09pm

re: #125 HoosierHoops

Great race! Plus lots of cute girls at the track...

I watched ,,, it was good

BUT ,,, I still would have liked to have seen at least a few laps of the crews all pushing the cars around!!

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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:04:22pm

As to the Bush did it first...

Actually this goes back to before Carter.

The honest truth is that both parties suck with this.

The average American likes Israel more than the Arabs and a subset of profoundly religious Christians believes in the notion of Israel as part of their faith.

The right, wants to keep the oil flowing and, while perhaps they do not usually openly hate Israel as much as the Left, they are perfectly happy to throw bones to their pet states, you know our friends the Saudis and the other Muslim petroleum suppliers.

The lesson was made a bit more clear to Nixon with the embargo. Since then, there has been a sort of understanding that the Arabs get to pick on Israel and that the US will only step in if things get out of hand. Of course back then, Israel was seen as much more of a bulwark against Russian expansionism.

The Left is another matter. If your mantra is Western Civilization = evil oppressor, then the idea that Westerners who are proud of being a part of one of the founding Western Civilizations, are anything other than oppressors is anathema. If you throw into this mix the fact that the Israelis kick ass, the Left must assume that Israel must be the oppressor and the wrong side, because only bad people have successful militaries.

Israel is caught between the unrealistic views of many in the West and the all too cynical numbers that come with petrochemical dependence.

I was being somewhat sarcastic in previous comment on this thread. Now I am dead serious.

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ILoveIsrael Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:04:42pm

I think I'll go rob a Palestinian bank, now that I know where to go for a tax refund...

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avanti Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:05:00pm

re: #123 sattv4u2

But you've been excusing Obama for doing it instead of condemning HIM.

I

No, I am not. I'm agnostic on the issue since so many administrations choose to continue it, I can only hope they had a valid reason. I'll do some homework on the issue, and see what the rational has been all these years.

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HoosierHoops Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:05:19pm

re: #126 sattv4u2

I watched ,,, it was good

BUT ,,, I still would have liked to have seen at least a few laps of the crews all pushing the cars around!!

//

Stop it! *Wink*
I think I have a sunburn...I may not enjoy Monday morning..

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HoosierHoops Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:07:01pm

Moving upstairs..--->

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Kosh's Shadow Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:09:56pm

re: #127 LudwigVanQuixote

The Muslims demand their jizzya; they have us pay it to the Palis in addition to what we pay at the gas pump.

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:11:06pm

re: #129 avanti

No, I am not. I'm agnostic on the issue since so many administrations choose to continue it, I can only hope they had a valid reason. I'll do some homework on the issue, and see what the rational has been all these years.

Yes, you did. You "excused it" by citing OTHER admins that did it rather than condemning THIS one for doing it!
{sigh}

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:12:18pm

re: #129 avanti

re: #133 sattv4u2

Yes, you did. You "excused it" by citing OTHER admins that did it rather than condemning THIS one for doing it!
{sigh}

As I stated upthread to you (which you ignored)

Citing OTHER bad behaviour while discuissing THIS bad behaviour is childish, imo

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quiet man Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:12:46pm

This is like watching the ACLU get paid by the state for screwing up peoples lives.

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:12:57pm

I'm going >>> to see the fence

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captdiggs Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:16:30pm

Isn't it nice knowing your tax dollars are being well spent.

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Idle Drifter Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:19:13pm

I don't think we're getting a good return on our investments here.

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redc1c4 Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:21:26pm

well, with the money we're saving by not giving aid to Honduras, what's the fuss about?

/white smoke

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anotherindyfilmguy Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:23:04pm

Drill here, drill now... ok... extract more here... extract more now...

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Eyes of Blue Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:30:55pm

What crap. I notice we never get to vote on this type of stuff. It would never pass. How about giving each American citizen 1 million dollars of tax free money, you terrorist enablers, that would stimulate the economy.
SPIT

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Dr. Shalit Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:39:39pm

In the words of the "late great" ENRON Ad - "...why, why, why, why, why why, why..." That is all.

-S-

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funky chicken Sun, Jul 26, 2009 4:42:41pm

re: #129 avanti

No, I am not. I'm agnostic on the issue since so many administrations choose to continue it, I can only hope they had a valid reason. I'll do some homework on the issue, and see what the rational has been all these years.

You're agnostic on the issue of our government's funding of evil year after year with our own tax dollars? Or more honestly, our own children's and grandchildren's tax dollars? See, I'm outraged that democrats and republicans alike keep enabling terrorism in this way.

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Gus Sun, Jul 26, 2009 5:01:09pm

Was reading the following the other day and wasn't sure if it was mentioned:

Jul 24, 2009 1:17 %P% Updated Jul 24, 2009 12:23
'Hamas may get claws into Gaza aid'
By YAAKOV KATZ AND HERB KEINON

Increasingly concerned that Hamas will steal money donated for Gaza's rehabilitation, the Defense Ministry distributed a document this week revealing that unions affiliated with the terrorist group have set up joint committees with UN agencies that dispense humanitarian aid.

The document was distributed to the Foreign Ministry, Finance Ministry and the Israeli intelligence community, and was also sent to the United States to warn it that the $900 million it has pledged to help rebuild the Gaza Strip could fall into Hamas hands.

"All humanitarian aid sent into the Gaza Strip today needs to receive Hamas clearance," a senior defense official told The Jerusalem Post on Thursday. "Hamas uses violence against international organizations, including UNRWA, if they do not cooperate."

...

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Joshua Cohen Sun, Jul 26, 2009 5:34:18pm

How many tons of plastic, kassams, bullets and rifles are this?

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Buck Sun, Jul 26, 2009 6:06:59pm

re: #6 Charles

Billion here, billion there, pretty soon it's real money.

I just want to know what they did with the last billion we gave them?

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UncleRancher Sun, Jul 26, 2009 6:30:42pm

This is just CRAZY. And you thought the Paulians were whacko.

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matchngame Sun, Jul 26, 2009 6:54:09pm

well, Wall Street got $2 trillion without questions about where that will be spent and supervision, look at how well that helped the economy along...

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Challenger Sun, Jul 26, 2009 6:56:46pm

Why the fudge are we financing and rewarding them for launching rockets into Israel and starting wars? Weren't these also the same peace-loving people celebrating on 9/11?

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Condor Sun, Jul 26, 2009 7:16:14pm

Is this in addition to the $900 million for Gaza?

BTW, Arafat's widow, who lives in Paris, gets $26 million a year from the PLA (I guess for keeping her mouth shut).

So, of this $200 million, only $174 million, at best, will reach the Palestinians.

But that is before deductions made for Abbas, etc.

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Dr. Shalit Sun, Jul 26, 2009 8:08:04pm

re: #153 Condor

Is this in addition to the $900 million for Gaza?

BTW, Arafat's widow, who lives in Paris, gets $26 million a year from the PLA (I guess for keeping her mouth shut).

So, of this $200 million, only $174 million, at best, will reach the Palestinians.

But that is before deductions made for Abbas, etc.

Condor -

The PL - O/Fatah makes the "Chicago Outfit" and the New York "Five Families" look like a bunch of Amateur Pikers. The "Mob" was a 5-20% tax on legitimate economic activity. The PLO was WELL BEYOND THAT. Wonder why they were defeated in Democratic Elections? I DO NOT - they were/are THIEVES - of Money. Unfortunately, HAMAS is the THIEF of SOULS/NESHUMAS.
Reminds me of the Louisiana Election of NOT so long ago against DAVID DUKE - Vote for the Thief - It Is Important!
Worked in Louisiana, unfortunately NOT in the PA.

-S-

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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Jul 26, 2009 8:26:16pm

re: #85 ArmyWife

We know. I think you'll find a lot of posts on here railing against this. It doesn't matter who does it, it's bad for us and bad for Israel. Putting an "R" behind the President's name doesn't make it better. The fact this country is currently in worse financial straights than under Bush compounds the issue, for me.

Well the economy did actually hit the ground on Bush's watch, Obama is just currently watching it bounce and trying to nurse it back to health with various weird measures.

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Dr. Shalit Sun, Jul 26, 2009 8:30:45pm

re: #154 Dr. Shalit

Revise and Extend -

AND - The Israelis KNEW THIS. Their rationale was:

1. The PLO would be able to control the Arab Population - Outside the "Green Line."
2. There would be NO other "Palestinian" Organization able to challenge the PLO.

WRONG - on both counts. There lies at least PART of the Problem.

-S-

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Cato Mon, Jul 27, 2009 5:30:07am

Um Charles, are you ready to admit yet that this is the most left-wing, radical president we have ever had? Are you ready to admit his policies are destructive to American interests? And are you ready to admit that those interests are not some tangential policy but interests like the safety of ourselves and our families?

I am with Rush, I want him to fail so America can succeed.

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haavamaal Mon, Jul 27, 2009 6:13:23am

Great. How many missiles does 900 million buy these days? I guess I would be bearish for Russian and Chinese arms corporations.

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Yashmak Mon, Jul 27, 2009 7:07:37am

200 million? They should just send 1$ to every American who believes our nation is headed in the wrong direction instead. That ought to just about cover it.

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Land Shark Mon, Jul 27, 2009 7:39:28am

How lovely. The US Government has already bailed out banks, the auto industry, ACORN, you name it. Now we're bailing out America and Israeli hating terrorists. In the middle of a freakin' depression, we're sending hundreds of millions to terrorists who hate us like poison. It's a great time to be an enemy of America with President Zero and the Scheme-ocrats in charge.

At the risk of sounding like a sour grapes evil conservative, it's getting harder and harder for me not to conclude anyone who voted for Obama and doesn't regret their vote now either hates America, is ignorant or an idiot. Sorry.

Gee, isn't all this hope and change wonderful?

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American Sabra Mon, Jul 27, 2009 8:22:27am

re: #157 Cato

Um Charles, are you ready to admit yet that this is the most left-wing, radical president we have ever had? Are you ready to admit his policies are destructive to American interests? And are you ready to admit that those interests are not some tangential policy but interests like the safety of ourselves and our families?

I am with Rush, I want him to fail so America can succeed.

Oh please, get your panties out of the wad.

Bush did the same thing. The deal ain't done till it's done.

Glad you want Obama to fail. If he fails, YOU fail, we all fail, or you don't see that?

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Cato Mon, Jul 27, 2009 8:50:06am

re: #161 American Sabra

If he fails at nationalizing healthcare we lose?

If he fails at a second "stimulus" package wasting billions of dollars we lose?

If he fails at "cap and trade", essentially a tax on everything, we lose?

If he fails at giving money to terrorists, we lose?

If he fails at permitting Iran access to nuclear technology for "peaceful" purposes we lose?

You and I have different views of what constitutes a loss. So different in fact, I doubt you are a Sabra.

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The 1SG Mon, Jul 27, 2009 8:54:35am

re: #1 livefreeor die

DITTO WTF!! We have homeless, high unemployment and SOS Hillary just decides to send 900 million. Hey LADY how about helping out a brother in USA.

I have 6 friends who lost their jobs less than 2 weeks ago. Where is the love Hillary?

I guess they should go be citizens of Mexico or some other place and then try to sneek back home.

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jordash1212 Mon, Jul 27, 2009 11:29:22am

Obama cuts F22-Raptor R&D then gives them a chunk of the unused cash for their own weapons development.

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spankerfish Mon, Jul 27, 2009 8:09:44pm

spending a couple mill on strychnine for Palestine would probably do the trick.

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tobariv Mon, Jul 27, 2009 9:20:45pm

Israel unilaterally gives away Gush Katif to the Arab Palestinians with a thriving greenhouse economy. The Palestinians destroy irrigation, buildings etc. and begin terrorizing the Israelis. It sounds like land for peace is the way to go. This "foreign aid" to the Palestinians will obviously be well spent by investing further in rockets, bombs, and other economic investments to help improve the lives of their people.

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