Video: Obama Debunks Birth Certificate Conspiracy
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:26:57pm |
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callahan23 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:29:17pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:31:42pm |
If he were a Sacha Baron Cohen character, he wouldn't need the teleprompter.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:32:54pm |
"Ok, let's talk vampires..."
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:35:21pm |
Every black comedian out there who is good with voices has got to be grateful for President Obama.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:35:56pm |
Cylon's are nuclear powered, that's not gonna set well with the eco-nuts.
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Truth Stick Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:36:47pm |
He could be a daywalker, I'm not saying, I'm just saying
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:36:58pm |
Watched that a bit ago. Did he say, "Let me be clear?"
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Dianna Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:37:00pm |
Pulsing red lights showing on the spine during intercourse?
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:37:18pm |
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HoosierHoops Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:37:19pm |
re: #13 Sharmuta
Damnit, get me Fox Mulder!
He's in the back room watching p0rn..
/I don't write the scripts! *wink*
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BlueCanuck Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:38:02pm |
re: #8 Sharmuta
The Truth Is Out There.
Along with the nutcases. I wish they would just stay OUT THERE. They tend to stink up the inside...
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turn Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:38:04pm |
re: #12 KenJen
I vant to suck your blood.
I'm with your first comment jen, he has the voice down pat. As for this comment, it's anemic. Extreme drive by, later lizards - time to go walk the lab along the American.
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Dianna Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:38:08pm |
re: #21 DEZes
Dark Shadows, The vampire Soap.
My mom was home and saw the very first episode ever of Dark Shadows.
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Truth Stick Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:38:16pm |
re: #19 Dianna
Pulsing red lights showing on the spine during intercourse?
The all go to green when the O is about come
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HoosierHoops Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:38:55pm |
re: #19 Dianna
Pulsing red lights showing on the spine during intercourse?
LOL
If that isn't a rotating title I don't know what is...Genius Dianna
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esch Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:39:11pm |
re: #14 EmmmieG
Every black comedian out there who is good with voices has got to be grateful for President Obama.
I'm hoping that over time he sounds more and more like Kirk. He already kind of reminds me when I hear him speak; he's got that 'stumbling down a hill' cadence going.
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Dianna Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:39:26pm |
re: #26 Truth Stick
The all go to green when the O is about come
I thought the big O was already covered simply by his presence?
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eon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:39:39pm |
He's not a vampire.
He may be an overbearing, swaggering, tin-plated dictator with delusions of godhood, but he's not a vampire.
/Campaigned as Picard, can't even manage to be a bad Kirk imitation.
cheers
eon
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Ben Hur Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:40:01pm |
What do you do?
Suck out the poison.
Suck out de poithon.
Suck out the poison.
Snake bite!
Snake bite!
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:40:21pm |
re: #25 Dianna
My mom was home and saw the very first episode ever of Dark Shadows.
I had a buddy that never missed that show, me, never watched it.
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Dianna Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:40:31pm |
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BlueRoses Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:40:50pm |
Good piece but he's missing the ears that stick straight out.
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HoosierHoops Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:40:59pm |
re: #34 Ben Hur
What do you do?
Suck out the poison.
Suck out de poithon.
Suck out the poison.Snake bite!
Snake bite!
/The movie Banana's?
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midwestgak Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:41:20pm |
re: #2 KenJen
He's got the voice down pat.
This actor does have the cadence, the hand gestures, nods, all of the obamaisms "down pat" as you stated.
Not quoting the video, but making a point:
Obama: I would like to STATE, that my views are CRITICAL of the security of this NATION. You can see my REFLECTION in the bills before the House and Senate.
You're gonna have to trust me.
Aloha, America.
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Dianna Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:41:23pm |
re: #35 DEZes
I had a buddy that never missed that show, me, never watched it.
I think I saw Kate Jackson flatten the actor who played Barnabas with the wrong end of a breakaway vase. I was about 3, so don't quote me on that.
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KenJen Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:41:24pm |
re: #24 turn
I'm with your first comment jen, he has the voice down pat. As for this comment, it's anemic. Extreme drive by, later lizards - time to go walk the lab along the American.
Wait. I'm not letting yuo get away so easy.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:41:52pm |
I haven't been following this story...
White House uses Web against Drudge attack
A lot of right wing blogs ran with that video too. Is it bogus?
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eon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:42:58pm |
re: #35 DEZes
I had a buddy that never missed that show, me, never watched it.
I watched that show after school every day for its entire run, even before Barnabas showed up. It was creepy enough even without him; The Munsters or The Addams Family without the laughs.
cheers
eon
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:43:34pm |
re: #41 Dianna
I think I saw Kate Jackson flatten the actor who played Barnabas with the wrong end of a breakaway vase. I was about 3, so don't quote me on that.
I am not sure what year that show 1st aired, late 60's or early 70's?
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:43:52pm |
re: #44 Killgore Trout
I haven't been following this story...
White House uses Web against Drudge attackA lot of right wing blogs ran with that video too. Is it bogus?
They said he put snippets together...Drudge fires back
[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:43:56pm |
He looks different when he's not doing press conferences.
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esch Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:45:37pm |
re: #44 Killgore Trout
A lot of right wing blogs ran with that video too. Is it bogus?
Well, disregarding the fact that if it were a fabrication they'd be hearing the shrieking in Outer Mongolia.
What do you think? I am seriously interested in hearing your view, KT.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:45:45pm |
re: #36 Dianna
Comedy is hard.
Lieutenant Steven Hauk: I understand you're pretty funny as a dee-jay and, well, comedy is kind of a hobby of mine. Well, actually, it's a little more than just a hobby, Reader's Digest is considering publishing two of my jokes.
-Good Morning Vietnam
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Dianna Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:46:04pm |
re: #46 DEZes
I am not sure what year that show 1st aired, late 60's or early 70's?
Early 60's. My mom was home because she had my brother in November of 62, and me in October of 63.
I am an Irish twin.
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Charpete67 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:46:04pm |
I'm still gonna ask for a demonstration with some garlic and a wooden stake before I believe...I just can't let the whole vampire thing go.
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Buster Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:48:29pm |
Since we now know that he is a cyborg, my concern shifts to who built him and what is their motive? I sure hope they are friendly, but I have my suspicions.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:49:00pm |
re: #50 esch
What do you think? I am seriously interested in hearing your view, KT.
The videos look legit to me but I've only started following this story 5 minutes ago so my opinion is hardly informed.
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Learned Mother of Zion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:49:37pm |
Where's avanti?
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Dianna Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:51:08pm |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
The videos look legit to me but I've only started following this story 5 minutes ago so my opinion is hardly informed.
I couldn't put my home computer on all weekend, so I'm way, way behind on all the stories. I heard the clip, that's all; I was under the impression that the whole 40 seconds are uncut?
I only saw a one-paragraph summary, and I'm not sure where.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:51:12pm |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
The videos look legit to me but I've only started following this story 5 minutes ago so my opinion is hardly informed.
The White House said Zero never asked for a single payer system. Drudge countered with Brietbart..
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:53:22pm |
re: #58 Dianna
Here's the original clip that has been floating around...
SHOCK UNCOVERED: Obama IN HIS OWN WORDS saying His Health Care Plan will ELIMINATE private insurance
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capitalist piglet Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:53:29pm |
re: #59 Cannadian Club Akbar
The White House said Zero never asked for a single payer system. Drudge countered with Brietbart..
I've seen the video. I don't see how the White House could issue a denial like that...but I guess we'll see.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:53:31pm |
re: #59 Cannadian Club Akbar
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
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Dolphin Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:53:43pm |
Haven't posted recently. If keithgabryelski is still on - is this what you were thinking of? [Link: rightwingnuthouse.com...] It was posted this morning (that's when I read it) and found it interesting also. Also, has this been discussed? [Link: republicans.oversight.house.gov...]
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Charpete67 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:54:45pm |
re: #55 Killgore Trout
The videos look legit to me but I've only started following this story 5 minutes ago so my opinion is hardly informed.
How could anyone question it's legitimacy?...it kind of is what it is.
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SixDegrees Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:55:01pm |
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Ben Hur Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:55:05pm |
"taking sentences and phrases out of context, and they're cobbling them together to leave a very false impression."
Michael Moore. Farenheit 911. Charlton Heston speeches spliced together. He's wearing different shirts.
Here? Not so much.
But at least there making progress with the project sh*t.
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eon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:55:20pm |
re: #46 DEZes
I am not sure what year that show 1st aired, late 60's or early 70's?
First aired; 22 June 1966
Last; 2 April 1971
Barnabas showed up about three months in. The ratings were so low that ABC told Dan Curtis (the producer) that if they didn't pick up in the next six weeks, it was cancellation time. Curtis, a serious supernatural horror buff, decided "what have we got to lose?" and added Jonathan Frid as Barnabas Collins, a full-on classic Vampyr. The gimmick being that, as in the best vampire fiction, Barnabas was careful not to let anyone figure out that he was a vampire until he was sure he had them under control. Gradually his "backstory" was revealed, i.e., how he became a vampire, his real connection to the Collins family (founding member, basically), and why he came back- to have it out once and for all with the entity who had condemned him to unlife, one Angelique, a full-on witch of the Morgan le Fey School of Etiquette and Revenge.
The Barnabas/ Angelique war, with all of its sideblast (werewolves, time travel, you name it) made Dark Shadows one of the highest-rated "daytime dramas" in TV history.
Other (later) soaps tried to do similar things (Days of Our Lives and General Hospital, to name only two), but without Dark Shadows' ambiance of the supernatural plus general weirdness, it just didn't work. Like the original Star Trek, Dark Shadows was a one-in-a-million shot that worked.
cheers
eon
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KenJen Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:55:45pm |
Later Lizards. Headed home. Hope my basement is dry.
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Dianna Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:56:32pm |
re: #60 Killgore Trout
I see how that can be called "cherry picking".
However, I can also see why people would react very, very negatively to what they're seeing in that.
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Kragar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:56:45pm |
I'll have to wait and see Orly Taitz opinion on this before I can comment further.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:57:15pm |
0bama turns 48 tomorrow. I turn 47 in two weeks.
Whew. For a minute there I thought he and I would share an age.
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Dianna Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:59:10pm |
re: #67 eon
Then why was my mom home? Because she always indicated it was between my brother's birth and mine?
Huh. Have to ask her that sometime.
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Kragar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 2:59:47pm |
re: #72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
0bama turns 48 tomorrow. I turn 47 in two weeks.
Whew. For a minute there I thought he and I would share an age.
You're lucky, I got to share my birthday with Yasser Arafat
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Dianna Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:01:03pm |
re: #74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
You're lucky, I got to share my birthday with Yasser Arafat
I share my birthday with Lee Harvey Oswald's second daughter, month, day and year.
It's not significant, but it feels weird.
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Truth Stick Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:01:09pm |
re: #72 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
0bama turns 48 tomorrow. I turn 47 in two weeks.
Whew. For a minute there I thought he and I would share an age.
I'm just glad he was not born 6 days later...phew, I lucked out there
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:01:57pm |
re: #56 Alouette
Where's avanti?
Right here, but jobs are not expected to recover until the 4th quarter at best. The only good news about job losses, is that the numbers is going down every month, but jobs trail a recovery by six months.
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Ringo the Gringo Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:02:20pm |
He does Obama's voice and mannerisms quite well.
And the mole on the side of his nose is a nice touch too.
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:03:07pm |
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opnion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:03:19pm |
This Birther stuff is such nonsense. Come on, the guy was born in a manger in Bethlehem. Anybody that doubts it is just a straight up racist.
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Silvergirl Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:04:36pm |
re: #2 KenJen
He's got the voice down pat.
Yes he does. His speech patterns are so clear-cut and distinctive that they're fairly easy to imitate. I've about got it down myself, though I'd have to take up smoking in order to get my voice deep enough.
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BlueCanuck Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:05:34pm |
re: #74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
You're lucky, I got to share my birthday with Yasser Arafat
Got you beat, share mine with AH. :p
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Rancher Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:06:15pm |
Obama will never release the actual birth certificate, he's having way too much fun watching the kooks damage the GOP.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:06:40pm |
re: #83 Rancher
Obama will never release the actual birth certificate, he's having way too much fun watching the kooks damage the GOP.
I'm sure he's got the popcorn out.
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scion9 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:06:51pm |
re: #74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
You're lucky, I got to share my birthday with Yasser Arafat
On your next birthday you can celebrate the fact that no one will be celebrating another one for Arafat ever again.
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doppelganglander Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:07:15pm |
re: #67 eon
The week Dark Shadows went off the air was also the week my family's dog had to be put to sleep. I was a traumatized little 8-year-old.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:08:23pm |
re: #85 buzzsawmonkey
"I am the Mahdi; the Expected One. On my cheek--the mole. Between my teeth--the space."
Michael Strahan?
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doppelganglander Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:08:50pm |
re: #75 Dianna
I share my birthday with Lee Harvey Oswald's second daughter, month, day and year.
It's not significant, but it feels weird.
You're a year younger than I am. I was born during the Cuban missile crisis.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:09:16pm |
re: #74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
You're lucky, I got to share my birthday with Yasser Arafat
Elvis died on my 15th birthday. I have the exact same birthday as Steve Carell.
Test? What is my birthday.
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esch Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:10:11pm |
re: #61 capitalist piglet
I've seen the video. I don't see how the White House could issue a denial like that...but I guess we'll see.
Sheer chutzpah. Get the MFMSM to repeat it enough and some people will wrap themselves up in the fuzzy dissonance.
"OUT OF CONTEXT!"
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:10:33pm |
re: #78 Ringo the Gringo
And the mole on the side of his nose is a nice touch too.
I've got an Obama mole!
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:10:40pm |
re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Elvis died on my 15th birthday. I have the exact same birthday as Steve Carell.
Test? What is my birthday.
Aug. 16th 1972
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:11:11pm |
My daughter was born the day before the Oklahoma City bombings. The day of, I obviously wasn't watching TV, and couldn't figure out why the staff seemed so preoccupied.
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esch Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:11:52pm |
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AuntAcid Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:11:56pm |
MIA since 01/20/09
Code Pink
"Support the Troops
Bring them Home" bumper stickers
"War is not the Answer" bumper stickers
Anti-war demonstrations w/flag burnings
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:12:29pm |
re: #95 EmmmieG
My daughter was born the day before the Oklahoma City bombings. The day of, I obviously wasn't watching TV, and couldn't figure out why the staff seemed so preoccupied.
My birthday is the same day my home state was admitted to the union.
Fortunately not the same year. ;)
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doppelganglander Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:12:30pm |
re: #90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Elvis died on my 15th birthday. I have the exact same birthday as Steve Carell.
Test? What is my birthday.
I spent the day Elvis died visiting the World Trade Center and attending a Yankees game. I was a mere lass of 14 and three quarters.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:12:48pm |
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Killian Bundy Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:14:08pm |
New Sherlock Holmes Film to Explore Homoerotic Relationship Between Lead Characters
Guy Ritchie's plan to put a gay spin on the relationship of Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson in his new movie about the detective and his sidekick could backfire.
Robert Downey Jr., who plays Holmes, has revealed the crimebuster will sleep with and have sweaty grappling scenes with Watson, played by Jude Law, in "Sherlock Holmes," due out Christmas Day.
"We're two men who happen to be roommates, wrestle a lot and share a bed. It's bad-ass," Downey told Britain's News of the World. Added much-in-the-news Law: "Guy wanted to make this about the relationship between Watson and Holmes. They're both mean and complicated."
/fun for the whole family!
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eon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:14:35pm |
re: #69 Dianna
I see how that can be called "cherry picking".
However, I can also see why people would react very, very negatively to what they're seeing in that.
It's another example of how opinions that are just considered, well, sensible and mainstream in "progressive" circles don't look the same to anyone outside of same. The progressive world of academia, government, MSM newsrooms, and cocktail parties is one of the most perfectly hermetically-sealed echo chambers since the Vatican under Leo X (aka Giovanni de'Medici), who reacted rather badly to a debate on indulgences at Wittenburg announced by a list of 95 questions tacked to the university's bulletin board in 1509 by a monk named Martin Luther.
Obama, or anyone else of similarly liberal bent, can say things like that (appears to be) in their normal environment, and get nods, murmurs of agreement, and the odd "that's tellin' it, mannn!" from their audience. But when somebody from, say, the Junior Chamber of Commerce in Kansas City, Mo. hears it, they tend to react a bit differently, because they can see (a) what it would cost financially, (b) what it would cost in terms of their rights as a citizen, and (c) that based on previous attempts, it probably wouldn't actually work.
At which point, said individual says, "Hey, wait a minute".
To which the standard progressive response is "You're a stupid, reactionary (insert favorite epithet here)."
The One's response to this is entirely predictable. He dislikes having to explain himself to people who do not think as he does. This forces him to do so.
No wonder he now has his "associates" looking for ways to administer some "career counseling" to Drudge.
/Chicago style, that is.
cheers
eon
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:15:03pm |
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esch Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:15:07pm |
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:18:32pm |
re: #64 Charpete67
How could anyone question it's legitimacy?...it kind of is what it is.
I saw the vid early this morning...I accept the fact that politicians lie and/or tell you two different things at two different times...BO is a liar...ho hum
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:18:52pm |
re: #104 Shug
whats up DEZes
The power was off when I woke up this morning, so I was an hour late for work.
We had 6 inches of rain in just a few hours, and I had a flat tire when I got off work.
I am doing great...
How you doing Shug?
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doppelganglander Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:19:15pm |
re: #102 Killian Bundy
New Sherlock Holmes Film to Explore Homoerotic Relationship Between Lead Characters
/fun for the whole family!
It's Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law. I'm not seeing the problem here.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:19:38pm |
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snowcrash Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:19:40pm |
re: #99 DEZes
My birthday is the same day my home state was admitted to the union.
Fortunately not the same year. ;)
I don't think the hints are supposed to be that difficult. lol
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:19:41pm |
re: #109 doppelganglander
I'm totally straight. But...umm...
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RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:19:50pm |
OK photo shoppers!
Here's a fun assignment..
Obama,Clinton, Emanuel,Rangel the whole damn crew of them
as Huns...armor,weapons , sweat the whole shibang!
The "Pillage People" Sacking one nation at a time!!
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Shug Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:20:07pm |
re: #108 DEZes
not too bad. I just racked up my 20,000th upding. you had your chances my oft-updinging friend.
must have been all that rain and lack of power. heh
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esch Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:20:16pm |
re: #102 Killian Bundy
New Sherlock Holmes Film to Explore Homoerotic Relationship Between Lead Characters
/fun for the whole family!
So they were romantically inclined, is what they're claiming?
Well you know what they say,
There's no face like holmes
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teleskiguy Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:21:09pm |
He's a dohecadedron from the planet Arkturus!
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RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:21:16pm |
re: #108 DEZes
Here!
Sounds like you need a drink!
Help yourself...the fridge is full.
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eon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:21:20pm |
re: #102 Killian Bundy
New Sherlock Holmes Film to Explore Homoerotic Relationship Between Lead Characters
/fun for the whole family!
Oh, please. Watson was married twice (widowed once) and Holmes obviously was going steady with Mrs. Hudson, who while a widow was a young widow, who lost her husband in Afghanistan about the same time Watson took a Jezail musket ball in the collarbone there.
Ref- Sherlock Holmes' War of the Worlds by Manly Wade Wellman and Wade Wellman, based on notes by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle himself and authorized by the Conan Doyle estate, specifically Sir Arthur's son, Adrian.
Try again, Ritchie. On second thought, go back to making out with Madonna.
/Longtime Holmesian here
cheers
eon
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Dianna Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:21:23pm |
re: #109 doppelganglander
It's Robert Downey Jr. and Jude Law. I'm not seeing the problem here.
I don't mind looking at either man, stripped to the waist. But...do I have to think about Holmes and Watson having sex?
I really, really don't want to. For one thing, I'm pretty sure Holmes was pretty much a-sexual.
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opnion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:21:25pm |
re: #107 albusteve
I saw the vid early this morning...I accept the fact that politicians lie and/or tell you two different things at two different times...BO is a liar...ho hum
He sat in a pew for twenty years while the Reverend went into racist, anti-semitic & anti Amreican rants & never heard a thing.
As appaling as it was that he tried to sell that story it was even worse
that adults bought it.
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SixDegrees Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:21:40pm |
re: #74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
You're lucky, I got to share my birthday with Yasser Arafat
I share mine with Richard Nixon.
Well, I did.
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3 wood Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:22:01pm |
More stuff on the clunkers program:
Four of Top ‘Clunkers’ Model Purchases Are Foreign (Update3)
Aug. 4 (Bloomberg) -- Four of the top five models sold so far under the U.S. “cash for clunkers” program, aimed at boosting the auto industry, are made by foreign automakers, according to Transportation Department data.
Ford Motor Co.’s Focus was the top seller, followed by Toyota Motor Corp.’s Corolla, Honda Motor Co.’s Civic and Toyota’s Prius and Camry, data from the department showed today.
Initial clunkers legislation sponsored by Representative Betty Sutton, an Ohio Democrat, would have barred discounts for new vehicles manufactured overseas and offered higher payments for cars and trucks produced in the U.S. than for those made in Canada and Mexico. The “Buy American” provision was dropped from the final legislation because of opposition from foreign automakers and free-trade advocates who said it would conflict with U.S. obligations to the World Trade Organization.
Nice to know that the WTO id dictating policy like that.
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keithgabryelski Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:22:15pm |
re: #63 Dolphin
Haven't posted recently. If keithgabryelski is still on - is this what you were thinking of? [Link: rightwingnuthouse.com...] It was posted this morning (that's when I read it) and found it interesting also. Also, has this been discussed? [Link: republicans.oversight.house.gov...]
nope. that is indeed interesting, but not what i was thinking of.
I've combed through haakondahl's posts with no avail.
There seem to be a lot of people "favoriting" the specific post I am talking about.
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keithgabryelski Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:22:54pm |
re: #63 Dolphin
Haven't posted recently. If keithgabryelski is still on - is this what you were thinking of? [Link: rightwingnuthouse.com...] It was posted this morning (that's when I read it) and found it interesting also. Also, has this been discussed? [Link: republicans.oversight.house.gov...]
btw, thanks for the response.
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doppelganglander Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:23:25pm |
re: #115 esch
So they were romantically inclined, is what they're claiming?
Well you know what they say,
There's no face like holmes
I think they're exaggerating. RDJ is known for saying outrageous things. This Sherlock Holmes is supposed to be more action oriented, judging from the trailers, but I am pretty sure he is not gay for Watson.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:23:55pm |
re: #123 3 wood
Don't be so harsh. We have an administration that (imagine the calmest voice you've ever heard) "listens".
Really, do I have to?
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Dianna Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:24:26pm |
re: #125 buzzsawmonkey
It was the habitual cocaine use.
That, I am told, merely makes you hyper, paranoid and impotent (not that it removes the desire).
As Robin Williams said, "MMM! Yeah! Get me more of that!"
I am so glad I never once tried cocaine.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:24:29pm |
re: #121 opnion
He sat in a pew for twenty years while the Reverend went into racist, anti-semitic & anti Amreican rants & never heard a thing.
As appaling as it was that he tried to sell that story it was even worse
that adults bought it.
the voters don't want the burden of being on the wrong side of BO and his agenda...alot of lying going around this admin and his bots
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VioletTiger Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:25:02pm |
re: #15 Dianna
I miss Barnabas Collins.
OMG, did you watch that too?
LOVED that series, even though I was pretty young for it.
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RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:25:29pm |
re: #123 3 wood
At least the F&^*ing UAW is paying attention!
My Nissan Titan was built here!
Would I have preffered a major American Truck?
Yup! They couldn't beat the deal!
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3 wood Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:25:30pm |
U.S. Markets Wrap: S&P 500 Rises on Home Sales; Bonds Decline
U.S. stocks rose for a fourth day after pending sales of existing homes increased more than forecast in June. Treasuries fell, while the dollar traded near the weakest level against the euro this year.
Ten-year Treasury notes fell as the pending home sales report added to signs that the U.S. recession is easing. The yield on the benchmark 10-year note increased 0.05 percentage point to 3.69 percent at 4:50 p.m. New York time.
The 10 year rate was 2.6% in March.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:25:47pm |
re: #119 eon
Jeffery Deaver put together a couple of short story books...
Twisted
and
More Twisted.
I really enjoyed it. There's a "Holmes" story. It's pretty good.
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VioletTiger Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:26:16pm |
re: #53 Charpete67
I'm still gonna ask for a demonstration with some garlic and a wooden stake before I believe...I just can't let the whole vampire thing go.
Yeah, the vampires on Twilight have relections!
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SixDegrees Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:26:49pm |
re: #123 3 wood
More stuff on the clunkers program:
Four of Top ‘Clunkers’ Model Purchases Are Foreign (Update3)
Nice to know that the WTO id dictating policy like that.
Interesting, too, that the top seller is made by the only American car company to turn down government aid, making fulfillment of the goal of boosting troubled domestic auto makers that much weaker.
But to be fair, it isn't the WTO dictating policy; it's Congress and previous Administrations. The US is bound by several ratified treaties in these matters; violating them would open a huge worm can for international relations.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:27:30pm |
re: #111 snowcrash
I don't think the hints are supposed to be that difficult. lol
Ok, here goes.
DEZ is an abbreviation for a month in the German language'
Pipers were piping.
And HoosierHoops is a neighbor.
The year, I will keep that to myself. ;)
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opnion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:27:34pm |
re: #131 albusteve
the voters don't want the burden of being on the wrong side of BO and his agenda...alot of lying going around this admin and his bots
There is a lot of paranoia going around, whether justified or not.
More than a few people I know ,who are not given to extremes think that BHO will have the next election rigged & that there is a coming crackdown on some civil liberties.
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doppelganglander Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:27:37pm |
re: #120 Dianna
I don't mind looking at either man, stripped to the waist. But...do I have to think about Holmes and Watson having sex?
I really, really don't want to. For one thing, I'm pretty sure Holmes was pretty much a-sexual.
Apparently Holmes is more, um, active in this version. There's one moment in the trailer where he appears nekkid but for a strategically placed pillow, handcuffed to the bed. Watson is no where in sight. I will be seeing this opening day (Christmas). so I'll report back about just how homoerotic it really is.
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Silvergirl Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:27:54pm |
re: #102 Killian Bundy
New Sherlock Holmes Film to Explore Homoerotic Relationship Between Lead Characters
/fun for the whole family!
This gives new meaning to "My dear Watson."
Okay, okay Sherlock fans, I know that "Elementary, my dear Watson" is not an accurate quote.
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3 wood Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:28:03pm |
re: #133 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY
At least the F&^*ing UAW is paying attention!
My Nissan Titan was built here!
Would I have preffered a major American Truck?
Yup! They couldn't beat the deal!
I just find it interesting that we are taking on long term debt to "stimulate" mainly foreign auto makers. I guess there's something wrong with me, but I find that not very productive.
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solomonpanting Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:28:15pm |
re: #123 3 wood
More stuff on the clunkers program:
Four of Top ‘Clunkers’ Model Purchases Are Foreign (Update3)
Nice to know that the WTO id dictating policy like that.
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Dianna Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:28:48pm |
re: #132 VioletTiger
OMG, did you watch that too?
LOVED that series, even though I was pretty young for it.
As a very small child, there were two shows I would not miss:
Dark Shadows and The Green Hornet.
Screaming Bruce Lee fan from something close to baby-hood.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:28:59pm |
re: #118 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY
Here!
Sounds like you need a drink!
Help yourself...the fridge is full.
I have one sitting on my desk. ;)
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3 wood Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:29:19pm |
re: #138 SixDegrees
The US is bound by several ratified treaties in these matters; violating them would open a huge worm can for international relations.
Well, we sure wouldn't want to upset our international neighbors, now would we?
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opnion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:31:07pm |
re: #142 Silvergirl
This gives new meaning to "My dear Watson."
Okay, okay Sherlock fans, I know that "Elementary, my dear Watson" is not an accurate quote.
I woder if Holmes will say, "Watson old chap. I just can't seem to quit you."
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RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:31:17pm |
re: #143 3 wood
I find nothing about the cash for clunkers productive !
Perfectly good vehicle being destroyed/rendered undrivable
I agree with you, but my distane for unions runs deep!
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:31:45pm |
re: #140 opnion
There is a lot of paranoia going around, whether justified or not.
More than a few people I know ,who are not given to extremes think that BHO will have the next election rigged & that there is a coming crackdown on some civil liberties.
I think ACORN is in BOs pocket...they are primed to be a game changer of some sort...rigged can mean various things I guess, but as a resource they are huge...who knows
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scion9 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:32:06pm |
re: #102 Killian Bundy
From the article...
Playing up the homoerotic undercurrents in 'The Talented Mr. Ripley' worked rather well.
If anything the homosexual content in the movie was downplayed from the novel on that one, where there is no ambiguity between Ripley wanting to be with a man and wanting to be that man. That line is the entire theme of the movie, by contrast. I don't think the guy being quoted even read the book.
As for the Holmes adaptation, Guy Ritchie is already really hit or miss and I don't expect a lot from it regardless of graphic cinematic manlove being present or not. It will not be a faithful adaptation either way.
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midwestgak Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:32:32pm |
re: #142 Silvergirl
This gives new meaning to "My dear Watson."
Okay, okay Sherlock fans, I know that "Elementary, my dear Watson" is not an accurate quote.
Mr. Watson and Sherlock come home.
There's a lemon on the door.
Holmes asks, "What does this mean?"
Sherlock: My dear Watson, it's not a door, it's a lemon entry.
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itellu3times Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:32:34pm |
Geithner Vents at Regulators as Overhaul Stumbles
BY DAMIAN PALETTA AND DEBORAH SOLOMON
WASHINGTON -- Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner blasted top U.S. financial regulators in an expletive-laced critique last Friday as frustration grows over the Obama administration's faltering plan to overhaul U.S. financial regulation, according to people familiar with the meeting.
...
The Forehead of Sauron again fails to impress.
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VioletTiger Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:32:59pm |
re: #145 Dianna
As a very small child, there were two shows I would not miss:
Dark Shadows and The Green Hornet.
Screaming Bruce Lee fan from something close to baby-hood.
I can still hum 'Quentin's Song'.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:33:09pm |
re: #153 buzzsawmonkey
Joking aside, the retro-sexualizing of classic characters to conform to modern-day obsessions is pretty damned distasteful.
It's pretty sad that so many allegedly creative types today cannot look beyond their divining rods--and must grave-rob because they have nothing to talk about beyond their own sexual fixations.
you speak for me...spit
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Truck Monkey Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:33:15pm |
re: #75 Dianna
I share my birthday with Lee Harvey Oswald's second daughter, month, day and year.
It's not significant, but it feels weird.
Talk about Spooky. I share the same birthday as Lee Harvey Oswald and was born (like you) in 1963.
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3 wood Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:33:19pm |
No worries. The Fed's think it might be nice to have some employees who know what they are doing.
Fed to Strengthen Bank Examinations With Expert Teams (Update1)
Aug. 4 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve plans to strengthen its examinations of banks’ lending practices and financial health with new teams composed of experts in everything from law to economics and markets.
Any time now would be nice.
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Learned Mother of Zion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:33:32pm |
re: #98 AuntAcid
MIA since 01/20/09
Code Pink
"Support the Troops
Bring them Home" bumper stickers"War is not the Answer" bumper stickers
Anti-war demonstrations w/flag burnings
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snowcrash Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:33:55pm |
re: #139 DEZes
Ok, Dec 11 and I guess mid 1950's to early 1960's. Seems many lizards fit in that range. Maybe.
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callahan23 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:34:09pm |
re: #139 DEZes
Ok, here goes.
DEZ is an abbreviation for a month in the German language'
Pipers were piping.
And HoosierHoops is a neighbor.
-
The year, I will keep that to myself. ;)
December - as Dezember
- - -
Indiana
December, 11th /1816
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:34:32pm |
re: #154 scion9
From the article...
If anything the homosexual content in the movie was downplayed from the novel on that one, where there is no ambiguity between Ripley wanting to be with a man and wanting to be that man. That line is the entire theme of the movie, by contrast. I don't think the guy being quoted even read the book.
As for the Holmes adaptation, Guy Ritchie is already really hit or miss and I don't expect a lot from it regardless of graphic cinematic manlove being present or not. It will not be a faithful adaptation either way.
who could possibly give a shit...the whole concept is voyeuristic and creepy
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:34:37pm |
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SixDegrees Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:34:53pm |
re: #147 3 wood
Well, we sure wouldn't want to upset our international neighbors, now would we?
It's more than simply a matter of upsetting them. Breaking treaties is illegal at several different levels, from domestic to international. It's not something to take lightly.
I'm no fan of CFC, but I don't see any practical way to have implemented it without running into exactly the result that has been produced. In my opinion, we would have been better off if it hadn't been implemented at all.
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RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:35:15pm |
re: #163 callahan23
Oh ...Your gunna pay for that!!
LOL
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:35:50pm |
re: #144 solomonpanting
The US market share is normally 45 %, so 47 % US brands is not bad especially considering the imports dominate the small car market and the US industry was weak. Many of the foreign brands have more American content then some of the domestics.
I was surprised to see how many SUV's were dumped for small cars though.
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opnion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:36:09pm |
re: #151 albusteve
I think ACORN is in BOs pocket...they are primed to be a game changer of some sort...rigged can mean various things I guess, but as a resource they are huge...who knows
That ACORN is still getting Federal money with all that is known about them, can't be good.
Obama comes out of Cook County politics where they do not like to take chances on elections.
In natrional elections it was customary under the original Mayor Daley to hold back voting totals until downstste came in. That way they would know how many votes the needed.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:36:17pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:36:30pm |
Is this the Cylon of the Lambs? ... or on the lam?
Is he running on all Cylonders?
Is he Cylon the ship of state into a whirlpool of CharredBodies?
Personally, I betcha he went to school in Cylon instead of Indonesia.
/perhaps I better shut up and run like hell
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:37:16pm |
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VioletTiger Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:37:27pm |
Looks like Rahm is ticking people off.
Issa to Emanuel: Back Off!
August 4, 2009WASHINGTON. D.C. – Following reports that White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel has been orchestrating an effort to intimidate members of Congress and Governors who raise legitimate concerns regarding the effectiveness of the stimulus, House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform Ranking Member Darrell Issa (R-CA) sent a letter to Emanuel saying “While this type of scare tactic may work In Chicago, it will not work to intimidate me or other Members of the United States Congress.”
“I and others have dared to bring these facts to the attention of President Obama, the Congress and the American people,” Issa wrote. “You’ve unfortunately reacted by once again resorting to the playbook of the Chicago political machine.”
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callahan23 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:38:07pm |
re: #167 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY
Oh ...Your gunna pay for that!!
LOL
Snowcrash and I came in with our answers within a 20 second period. Two here who've beaten you. ;-)
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:38:45pm |
re: #168 avanti
The US market share is normally 45 %, so 47 % US brands is not bad especially considering the imports dominate the small car market and the US industry was weak. Many of the foreign brands have more American content then some of the domestics.
I was surprised to see how many SUV's were dumped for small cars though.
the whole thing is wrong...it's theft and pandering...no surprise you vigorously endorse such a thing
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tradewind Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:38:55pm |
Shocka... Robert Gibbs caught in another lie for his boss...
[Link: thehill.com...]
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:39:05pm |
re: #174 callahan23
Snowcrash and I came in with our answers within a 20 second period. Two here who've beaten you. ;-)
I thought the pipers piping might be to vague, I was wrong. ;)
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:39:17pm |
So, is Clinton getting the two women freed his greatest foreign policy success ever? He sure didn't do a good job protecting us from our current enemies back then.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:39:18pm |
re: #153 buzzsawmonkey
I thought the "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" sahucked!
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solomonpanting Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:40:01pm |
re: #168 avanti
I was surprised to see how many SUV's were dumped for small cars though.
Some of that may be due to children growing up and parents no longer needing a large vehicle.
Jess Speculatin'
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RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:40:11pm |
re: #168 avanti
Here in Utah they call them Mormon School Buses...
Well if they find some more money I can finally get rid
of that damn all original 1969 Hemi Super Bee in my garage!!
Sucks fuel so bad...it only has 21,000 miles on It!!!
///
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SixDegrees Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:40:19pm |
re: #173 VioletTiger
Looks like Rahm is ticking people off.
I'd guess there will be more of this kind of pushback in the weeks to come. The Administration's Invincibility Armor was badly dented by Democratic infighting over Cap and Trade and the health care bill, together with their slow progress. Coupled with 0's falling approval rating, look for a bolder opposition.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:40:21pm |
re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I thought the "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" sahucked!
Wanna buy a copy?...Cheap.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:41:05pm |
re: #179 TheMatrix31
So, is Clinton getting the two women freed his greatest foreign policy success ever? He sure didn't do a good job protecting us from our current enemies back then.
Didn't he just take a flight over and pick up the ladies? Did he have anything to do with getting them freed?
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opnion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:41:29pm |
re: #179 TheMatrix31
So, is Clinton getting the two women freed his greatest foreign policy success ever? He sure didn't do a good job protecting us from our current enemies back then.
Clinton wouldn't take advantage of their gratitude & hit on them, would he? Naaah
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Mr Spiffy Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:41:31pm |
re: #32 eon
He's not a vampire.
He may be an overbearing, swaggering, tin-plated dictator with delusions of godhood, but he's not a vampire.
/Campaigned as Picard, can't even manage to be a bad Kirk imitation.
cheers
eon
Upding for the "Tribbles" reference
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tradewind Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:42:09pm |
Waaahhh. They can dish it out, but they can't take it:
[Link: briefingroom.thehill.com...]
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SixDegrees Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:42:27pm |
re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I thought the "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" sahucked!
Like a Hoover.
Please tell me this isn't going to be Sean Connery's Final Film. It would be a horrid way to end his career.
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solomonpanting Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:42:31pm |
re: #182 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY
Here in Utah they call them Mormon School Buses...
Well if they find some more money I can finally get rid
of that damn all original 1969 Hemi Super Bee in my garage!!
Sucks fuel so bad...it only has 21,000 miles on It!!!
///
What does it get, 15 gpm?
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:42:34pm |
re: #177 tradewind
Shocka... Robert Gibbs caught in another lie for his boss...
[Link: thehill.com...]
get used to it...just a little mixup in wordage...move along
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:42:41pm |
re: #160 3 wood
No worries. The Fed's think it might be nice to have some employees who know what they are doing.
Fed to Strengthen Bank Examinations With Expert Teams (Update1)Any time now would be nice.
I'd almost be tempted to say better late than never, but the latter seems to be the operative vein until attention gets focused on the cluelessness of those in charge.
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VioletTiger Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:43:06pm |
re: #183 SixDegrees
I'd guess there will be more of this kind of pushback in the weeks to come. The Administration's Invincibility Armor was badly dented by Democratic infighting over Cap and Trade and the health care bill, together with their slow progress. Coupled with 0's falling approval rating, look for a bolder opposition.
And I think that Joker poster is just the warning shot across the bow that Obama is no longer immune to spoofing and fun-making. Is that ever making liberal heads explode.
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Sharmuta Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:43:12pm |
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:43:41pm |
re: #186 opnion
Clinton wouldn't take advantage of their gratitude & hit on them, would he? Naaah
Clinton was hitting on Kim, who said "back off, its not a girls name, now, take 2 of these and call me in the morning"
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midwestgak Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:43:48pm |
re: #155 midwestgak
Mr. Watson and Sherlock come home.
There's a lemon on the door.
Holmes asks, "What does this mean?"
Sherlock: My dear Watson, it's not a door, it's a lemon entry.
Good joke told badly.
They come home to a door that is shaped like a lemon.
arg
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opnion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:44:08pm |
re: #189 buzzsawmonkey
I didn't see it.
I've gotten to the point where I can barely stand to watch current movies, unless there's a reasonable chance there are no special effects. If half the loving detail lavished on slo-mo explosions were expended on decent dialogue, you could actually see something interesting without having to give up 3 hours of your life and walking out half-deafened.
Just saw Harry Potter, "The Half Blood Prince." Really well done, but pretty dark.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:44:08pm |
re: #188 tradewind
Waaahhh. They can dish it out, but they can't take it:
[Link: briefingroom.thehill.com...]
Just talking a little tactic from the "rahm it to you" playbook.
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callahan23 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:44:11pm |
re: #178 DEZes
I thought the pipers piping might be to vague, I was wrong. ;)
'twas the hint about the entry of the state into the Union. Plus Hoosier is thy neighbor. ;-)
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:44:12pm |
re: #169 opnion
That ACORN is still getting Federal money with all that is known about them, can't be good.
Obama comes out of Cook County politics where they do not like to take chances on elections.
In natrional elections it was customary under the original Mayor Daley to hold back voting totals until downstste came in. That way they would know how many votes the needed.
2000...deja vu all over again?...hahaha!...would serve us right
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:44:43pm |
re: #199 Walter L. Newton
Just talking a little tactic from the "rahm it to you" playbook.
talking = taking
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Rancher Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:44:57pm |
re: #179 TheMatrix31
So, is Clinton getting the two women freed his greatest foreign policy success ever? He sure didn't do a good job protecting us from our current enemies back then.
Sure was a domestic success for the Dear Leader having a former President come crawling. Next stop Iran to release the idiots that hiked into Ahmadinejad's backyard.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:45:08pm |
re: #190 SixDegrees
Like a Hoover.
Please tell me this isn't going to be Sean Connery's Final Film. It would be a horrid way to end his career.
Just as with Peter Sellers' real last film being a suckorama (Being There was 2nd), I prefer to ignore such trash and consider the last good film to be good actors' legacy.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:45:21pm |
re: #194 VioletTiger
And I think that Joker poster is just the warning shot across the bow that Obama is no longer immune to spoofing and fun-making. Is that ever making liberal heads explode.
awsome poster...I mailed it to everybody I know
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tradewind Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:45:30pm |
re: #195 Sharmuta
Well Duh, as the kids say.
It's the star player in their D&D department.
** distract and divert
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:45:42pm |
re: #199 Walter L. Newton
Just talking a little tactic from the "rahm it to you" playbook.
The Capone/Chicago way is in full swing again.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:45:46pm |
re: #188 tradewind
From the link:
It is remarkably callous and extraordinarily out-of-touch for the White House and the Democrats to call the genuine concern over President Obama's government-run health care plan "manufactured." American families, small business owners, doctors, veterans, and seniors have real and serious concerns over the president's risky and costly government-run health care experiment. And they should — taxpayers will pay for this costly health care experiment because it will raise taxes without decreasing costs, increase the deficit and lead to less choice and lower-quality health coverage
Apparently opposition to any of 0bama's policies is 'manufactured' these days...
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Truck Monkey Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:45:55pm |
re: #179 TheMatrix31
So, is Clinton getting the two women freed his greatest foreign policy success ever? He sure didn't do a good job protecting us from our current enemies back then.
My guess is he could have picked up a couple a women in the US. He didn't have to go to North Korea to do it.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:46:03pm |
re: #196 DEZes
Where's the mind bleach? GAH!
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eon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:46:14pm |
re: #135 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Jeffery Deaver put together a couple of short story books...
Twisted
and
More Twisted.I really enjoyed it. There's a "Holmes" story. It's pretty good.
Thanks, I'll check them out.
Holmes stories ("pastiches") can be either very good or very bad. One of the best collections of same was edited by Adrian Conan Doyle, who selected ones he was pretty sure his father would have liked.
The movie A Study In Terror (1965) was based on one of the best examples, a novel written by "Ellery Queen" (Frederick Dannay and Manfred B. Lee). The "conceit" was that EQ (not a bad 'tec himself- see The French Powder Mystery, which deserves to be a movie) was given Watson's notes on Holmes' involvement in the Whitechapel Serial Killer Case of 1888- better known (inaccurately) as "Jack the Ripper". The result was one of the better variations of the story that became the "accepted" explanation for the murders until the 1990s, when further research determined that no, no one connected to the Royals was involved in any way. Murder by Decree (1979) was another variant of the same theory, starring Christopher Plummer as Holmes and James Mason as Watson, and actually based on The Ripper File, a two-hour "docudrama" episode of the British police TV show, Barlow at Large, from 1973. From Hell (2001) with Johnny Depp as Inspector Frederick Abberline, and based on Alan (Watchmen) Moore's graphic novel, was another variant of the same story.
cheers
eon
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Kragar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:46:46pm |
re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I thought the "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" sahucked!
Well, the fact it sucked likely had something to do with that line of reasoning.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:46:47pm |
re: #185 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Didn't he just take a flight over and pick up the ladies? Did he have anything to do with getting them freed?
I thought he went to negotiate the release?
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opnion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:46:57pm |
re: #196 DEZes
Clinton was hitting on Kim, who said "back off, its not a girls name, now, take 2 of these and call me in the morning"
I think that Clinton still has those old proclivities.
If you had some drinks with him & got him talking, I'll bet he could really entertain.
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SixDegrees Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:47:07pm |
re: #188 tradewind
Waaahhh. They can dish it out, but they can't take it:
[Link: briefingroom.thehill.com...]
The same story was being played out on NPR today; the DNC obviously sent this talking point out to the rank and file. Keep an eye on it, and watch this story grow over the next couple of days. Then remember eight years of Republican speakers shouted off stages and physically assaulted, in many cases, all without comment by the media. Oh, and can we talk about pieing, while we're at it? A practice that was practically mainstream when there were Republicans at the podium
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:47:22pm |
re: #210 Floral Giraffe
Where's the mind bleach? GAH!
I keep a 55 gallon drum on hand at all times. ;)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:47:47pm |
Saw an old friend on Facebook this morning, haven't seen her in 30 years. We're meeting in a few minutes to catch up.
Can't wait to see the look in her eyes when I walk up.
I had a 29 in waist in high school and was 6 inches shorter.
This is going to be fun!
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opnion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:48:21pm |
re: #201 albusteve
2000...deja vu all over again?...hahaha!...would serve us right
Oh history never repeats, repeats, repeats...
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callahan23 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:48:21pm |
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Truck Monkey Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:48:31pm |
re: #215 SixDegrees
The same story was being played out on NPR today; the DNC obviously sent this talking point out to the rank and file. Keep an eye on it, and watch this story grow over the next couple of days. Then remember eight years of Republican speakers shouted off stages and physically assaulted, in many cases, all without comment by the media. Oh, and can we talk about pieing, while we're at it? A practice that was practically mainstream when there were Republicans at the podium
Oh Come on! That's different!
/
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:48:35pm |
re: #214 opnion
I think that Clinton still has those old proclivities.
If you had some drinks with him & got him talking, I'll bet he could really entertain.
Clinton was a smooth one, no doubt about that.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:48:41pm |
re: #205 albusteve
awsome poster...I mailed it to everybody I know
I find the poster to be juvenile, but the outrage about it is just so hypocritical considering Bush was "parodied" in the same fashion a year ago, and the media thought it was high art.
Both "works of art" are just so unimaginative.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:48:56pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:49:36pm |
re: #194 VioletTiger
It's interesting to me that the only picture of that Joker poster is the same location, except the photoshopped Chicken restaurant.
I would have expected them to be all over the place.
The Daryl Gates ( LAPD chief) ones were everywhere!
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:49:37pm |
re: #195 Sharmuta
Birthers' flap discourages scrutiny of other areas of Obama's resume
like what?...his school transcripts?
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callahan23 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:49:41pm |
re: #217 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Saw an old friend on Facebook this morning, haven't seen her in 30 years. We're meeting in a few minutes to catch up.
Can't wait to see the look in her eyes when I walk up.
I had a 29 in waist in high school and was 6 inches shorter.
This is going to be fun!
Good luck and have fun.
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:49:52pm |
re: #181 solomonpanting
Some of that may be due to children growing up and parents no longer needing a large vehicle.
Jess Speculatin'
You might be right, for me it was the 12-15 MPG in my pickup that made me dump it. Funny thing, two days after it was put down, I could have used a pickup for the first time in months, my friends borrowed it more than I used it though.
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SteveC Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:50:14pm |
re: #34 Ben Hur
What do you do?
Suck out the poison.
Suck out de poithon.
Suck out the poison.Snake bite!
Snake bite!
Badger, badger, badger... snake! it's a snaaake!
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VioletTiger Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:50:47pm |
re: #188 tradewind
Waaahhh. They can dish it out, but they can't take it:
[Link: briefingroom.thehill.com...]
Cry me a river. Poor babies.
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opnion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:50:51pm |
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:51:08pm |
re: #207 FurryOldGuyJeans
The Capone/Chicago way is in full swing again.
break out the Louisville Slugger...how bout dem boyz in Philly at the polls?...cut loose by the feds
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:51:13pm |
He's a CYLON!!!
FRAK!
FRAK!
Get Galactica actual online!
FRAK!
We're all gonna die!
So say we all...
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Kragar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:51:41pm |
Gojra attacks were pre-planned: HRCP
LAHORE: Last week’s attacks on the Christian community in Gojra were not a spontaneous reaction to allegations of blasphemy but planned in advance, a fact-finding mission of the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP) said on Tuesday.
The mission’s report said announcements made from mosques in Gojra on July 31 urged Muslims to gather and “make mincemeat of the Christians” over allegation of desecration of the Holy Quran a week earlier. Witnesses told HRCP that when they informed the police about the announcements, the police officials also confirmed hearing the announcements.
On August 1, around 1,000 people gathered in the area and marched towards Christian Colony the HRCP said, adding that a police contingent present in the neighbourhood did not try to stop the mob, which included a number of masked men.
Witnesses said the attackers appeared trained for rioting and arson, the commission reported.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:52:01pm |
re: #223 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
heh. That's funny.
The "Marginalization of Hillary" continues.
Bill negotiates a...uh..."release"...on a daily basis though, so I don't know what's new.
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VioletTiger Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:52:12pm |
Just watched that a-hole Gibbs say that the outrage expressed in Town Hall meetings is manufactured.
They are really in for rude awakening.
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opnion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:52:16pm |
re: #229 buzzsawmonkey
I read the book; I've given up seeing the films. Again, too much time lavished on the effects. The books are overlong and clunky, the films, in my opinion, also.
I take a look at films done 40, 50, 60 years ago and marvel at how a few well-crafted lines of dialog and some intelligent cutting takes care of exposition that in a film made today takes twenty or thirty minutes of turgid grinding, long meaningful looks, and muttered monosyllables.
It was the rare feature film that went over an hour and a half back in the day; it is the rare feature film which runs under 2 hours now, and many run much longer. But that length shows no growth in scene framing, film cutting, or, as I have said, dialog--and I find the idea of paying $10 plus to sit in a shoebox and watch these things grind relentlessly on to be torture.
I thought that JK Rowling was better in the early Potter books, the ones that I read to my daughter.
She has gotten a little too dark.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:52:21pm |
re: #222 FurryOldGuyJeans
I find the poster to be juvenile, but the outrage about it is just so hypocritical considering Bush was "parodied" in the same fashion a year ago, and the media thought it was high art.
Both "works of art" are just so unimaginative.
unimaginative?...well rest assure someone is working up something even for you
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:52:45pm |
re: #235 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Wonder if Pakistan's ISI Directorate has their fingerprints on this...
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:53:24pm |
re: #208 Fenway_Nation
Apparently opposition to any of 0bama's policies is 'manufactured' these days...
IMHO, cap-L (far left) Liberals in general are so accustomed to dealing in various formulations of victimology, it's become a knee-jerk which some of them can't do without. Habit forming.
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tradewind Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:53:32pm |
Whoah... the Joker poster has branched out...
I especially like the one of the ' prompter.
[Link: www.moonbattery.com...]
(Disclaimer in case the site stinks: I followed the link to it on The Hill. )
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BlueCanuck Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:53:37pm |
re: #238 opnion
Heard the best description of the last couple of books by one of my friends. Rowlings was writing her own fan-fic...
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:53:39pm |
re: #237 VioletTiger
Just watched that a-hole Gibbs say that the outrage expressed in Town Hall meetings is manufactured.
They are really in for rude awakening.
of course...stupidly they just threw gas on the fire
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:54:01pm |
re: #230 VioletTiger
Cry me a river. Poor babies.
Sucks to be in the party charge when the public starts waking up to just how clueless the Dems are acting.
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Kragar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:54:09pm |
re: #240 Fenway_Nation
Wonder if Pakistan's ISI Directorate has their fingerprints on this...
Wouldn't be suprised. On the bright side, there was this as well.
Amid the assaults, the commission also noted that some Muslims in the neighbourhood provided shelter to Christian women fleeing the violence.
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callahan23 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:54:19pm |
re: #228 SteveC
Badger, badger, badger... snake! it's a snaaake!
Damn, that song is in a loop.
Gotta close the window or I am a mushroom myself.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:55:00pm |
re: #243 tradewind
Whoah... the Joker poster has branched out...
I especially like the one of the ' prompter.
[Link: www.moonbattery.com...]
(Disclaimer in case the site stinks: I followed the link to it on The Hill. )
oh man...somebody's gonna have a stroke...I love it
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:55:20pm |
re: #238 opnion
I thought that JK Rowling was better in the early Potter books, the ones that I read to my daughter.
She has gotten a little too dark.
I know nothing about Potter stories or books, but, I know a young Potter fanatic, and I'm told that Rowling planned the books to be read as a person grew up (and so does Potter), so, it was her plan to make the books more dark as the reader matured.
Just saying, it seems to be the way she planned it, both as a literary device and a marketing device.
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solomonpanting Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:55:21pm |
re: #227 avanti
You might be right, for me it was the 12-15 MPG in my pickup that made me dump it. Funny thing, two days after it was put down, I could have used a pickup for the first time in months, my friends borrowed it more than I used it though.
I still have an '85 F-150 I bought in '87. I rarely use it, think I should sell it, but know the minute I do I'll need it.
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:55:29pm |
re: #225 albusteve
like what?...his school transcripts?
I just have to ask, what the fuck is it with the fascination with his school transcripts ? Do you think Harvard faked his graduation with honors or what ? You are a conservative, where in the constitution does it mention school grades required to be POTUS.
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eon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:55:35pm |
re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I thought the "League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" sahucked!
Hate to tell you this, but I liked it. Much, much better than I liked the original GN.
I still haven't quite forgiven Alan Moore for what he did to Alan Quatermain in the GN. Connery's version was much more to my liking. And Peta Wilson was perfect as Mina.
I did like the GN version of Nemo a bit more than the movie's, but that's a minor quibble. Putting Tom Sawyer in as a U.S. Secret Service agent ala' Jim West was unexpected, but not bad.
/What can I say? I have weird tastes in entertainment.
cheers
eon
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SixDegrees Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:55:44pm |
re: #204 FurryOldGuyJeans
Just as with Peter Sellers' real last film being a suckorama (Being There was 2nd), I prefer to ignore such trash and consider the last good film to be good actors' legacy.
Apparently, Connery turned down the role of Saruman in The Lord of the Rings series, saying that he read the books and couldn't understand them. Pity, although it was awfully nice to see Christopher Lee back in action. And then there was the controversy over Lee being entirely cut from the third film, leaving a gaping plot hole in his place.
And you're correct, of course. Connery has a huge repertoire of outstanding performances to be proud of.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:56:49pm |
re: #251 Walter L. Newton
I know nothing about Potter stories or books, but, I know a young Potter fanatic, and I'm told that Rowling planned the books to be read as a person grew up (and so does Potter), so, it was her plan to make the books more dark as the reader matured.
Just saying, it seems to be the way she planned it, both as a literary device and a marketing device.
I read the same.
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VioletTiger Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:57:57pm |
re: #224 Floral Giraffe
It's interesting to me that the only picture of that Joker poster is the same location, except the photoshopped Chicken restaurant.
I would have expected them to be all over the place.
The Daryl Gates ( LAPD chief) ones were everywhere!
Perhaps they are trying to get the base ruffled up over how awful people are treating the One.
In this case it back-fired. That is one ingenious poster. It is going viral.
'Why so socialist?'
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:58:11pm |
By the way, I am curious and wish to make a quick informal poll...
Best TV Sci Fi
A) Battlestar Galactica (modern version)
B) Babylon 5
C) Firefly
D) Star Trek original series
E) Star Trek Next Gen and derivatives
F) Doctor Who (pick your favorite doctor)
G) Twilight Zone (when doing SF)
H) The Star Wars Christmas Special and the Ewok series.
[ed. note] if you answer H, you are a nerd god.
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Sharmuta Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:58:33pm |
re: #238 opnion
I thought that JK Rowling was better in the early Potter books, the ones that I read to my daughter.
She has gotten a little too dark.
I think the books are brilliant. Of course they've gotten darker- it's good vs. evil. But they're a brilliant parable to tribalism, and I can't recommend them enough. The films are not as good as the books, but then- what films are?
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SteveC Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:58:56pm |
re: #189 buzzsawmonkey
I didn't see it.
I've gotten to the point where I can barely stand to watch current movies, unless there's a reasonable chance there are no special effects. If half the loving detail lavished on slo-mo explosions were expended on decent dialogue, you could actually see something interesting without having to give up 3 hours of your life and walking out half-deafened.
Whatever happened to telling a good story?
"Of all the gin joints, in all the towns, in all the world, she walks into mine."
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:59:15pm |
re: #240 Fenway_Nation
Wonder if Pakistan's ISI Directorate has their fingerprints on this...
I suspect the ISI would consider it a matter which could well be handled by the local experts. In other words, ... I doubt it.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:59:42pm |
re: #259 LudwigVanQuixote
By the way, I am curious and wish to make a quick informal poll...
Best TV Sci Fi
A) Battlestar Galactica (modern version)
B) Babylon 5
C) Firefly
D) Star Trek original series
E) Star Trek Next Gen and derivatives
F) Doctor Who (pick your favorite doctor)
G) Twilight Zone (when doing SF)
H) The Star Wars Christmas Special and the Ewok series.
[ed. note] if you answer H, you are a nerd god.
Gonna go with G.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:59:44pm |
re: #259 LudwigVanQuixote
By the way, I am curious and wish to make a quick informal poll...
Best TV Sci Fi
A) Battlestar Galactica (modern version)
B) Babylon 5
C) Firefly
D) Star Trek original series
E) Star Trek Next Gen and derivatives
F) Doctor Who (pick your favorite doctor)
G) Twilight Zone (when doing SF)
H) The Star Wars Christmas Special and the Ewok series.
[ed. note] if you answer H, you are a nerd god.
LOST - hands down, and the last five seasons, the viewership and awards is proof of that. Yes, LOST is consider science fiction.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:59:51pm |
re: #246 Sharmuta
the MSM is helping to draw these people into the mainstream...same as they did with the BDS maniacs...same reason to, to help write the political language...I hate the MSM with a passion
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SteveC Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:59:51pm |
re: #233 LudwigVanQuixote
He's a CYLON!!!
FRAK!
FRAK!
Get Galactica actual online!
FRAK!
We're all gonna die!
So say we all...
Jump us out of here, Starbuck!
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 3:59:55pm |
re: #252 solomonpanting
I still have an '85 F-150 I bought in '87. I rarely use it, think I should sell it, but know the minute I do I'll need it.
Or the guy down the street will. Mine was a 91 F-150, but it was pretty beat up, and not worth $4500. I almost was going to go for a 10K base model, but ended spending more. A friend did buy a cheapir, and paid the 6K difference at 0% for 36 months.
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Kragar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:00:00pm |
re: #259 LudwigVanQuixote
By the way, I am curious and wish to make a quick informal poll...
Best TV Sci Fi
A) Battlestar Galactica (modern version)
B) Babylon 5
C) Firefly
D) Star Trek original series
E) Star Trek Next Gen and derivatives
F) Doctor Who (pick your favorite doctor)
G) Twilight Zone (when doing SF)
H) The Star Wars Christmas Special and the Ewok series.
[ed. note] if you answer H, you are a nerd god.
Red Dwarf
Farscape
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:00:02pm |
re: #255 SixDegrees
Apparently, Connery turned down the role of Saruman in The Lord of the Rings series, saying that he read the books and couldn't understand them. Pity, although it was awfully nice to see Christopher Lee back in action. And then there was the controversy over Lee being entirely cut from the third film, leaving a gaping plot hole in his place.
And you're correct, of course. Connery has a huge repertoire of outstanding performances to be proud of.
Lee was much better than Connery would have been in the role, and being distantly related to Tolkien didn't hurt either.
You need to see the extended versions if you haven't already to better appreciate the movies. Christopher Lee does have a greatly expanded role in them, including a very good death scene.
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Sharmuta Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:00:22pm |
re: #251 Walter L. Newton
I know nothing about Potter stories or books, but, I know a young Potter fanatic, and I'm told that Rowling planned the books to be read as a person grew up (and so does Potter), so, it was her plan to make the books more dark as the reader matured.
Just saying, it seems to be the way she planned it, both as a literary device and a marketing device.
I like the fact the books get more complex as you progress in the series. Rowling is a great writer, and I come to appreciate the books more as I re-read them. She's done a great service getting kids into reading.
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SixDegrees Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:00:24pm |
re: #229 buzzsawmonkey
I read the book; I've given up seeing the films. Again, too much time lavished on the effects. The books are overlong and clunky, the films, in my opinion, also.
I take a look at films done 40, 50, 60 years ago and marvel at how a few well-crafted lines of dialog and some intelligent cutting takes care of exposition that in a film made today takes twenty or thirty minutes of turgid grinding, long meaningful looks, and muttered monosyllables.
It was the rare feature film that went over an hour and a half back in the day; it is the rare feature film which runs under 2 hours now, and many run much longer. But that length shows no growth in scene framing, film cutting, or, as I have said, dialog--and I find the idea of paying $10 plus to sit in a shoebox and watch these things grind relentlessly on to be torture.
Mostly agree, but keep in mind that the films we still watch from a half-century ago are still around because those are the cream of the crop. The studios pumped out vast amounts of dreck during all periods; most of it is thankfully forgotten. But a relative handful are so good that they stick around, enthralling audiences generation after generation.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:00:51pm |
re: #265 Walter L. Newton
LOST - hands down, and the last five seasons, the viewership and awards is proof of that. Yes, LOST is consider science fiction.
Fair enough. I'm collecting opinions. Do you think I should have added X-files to the list as well?
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yochanan Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:01:02pm |
re: #222 FurryOldGuyJeans
I find the poster to be juvenile, but the outrage about it is just so hypocritical considering Bush was "parodied" in the same fashion a year ago, and the media thought it was high art.
Both "works of art" are just so unimaginative.
[Link: www.vanityfair.com...]
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:01:20pm |
re: #259 LudwigVanQuixote
By the way, I am curious and wish to make a quick informal poll...
Best TV Sci Fi
A) Battlestar Galactica (modern version)
B) Babylon 5
C) Firefly
D) Star Trek original series
E) Star Trek Next Gen and derivatives
F) Doctor Who (pick your favorite doctor)
G) Twilight Zone (when doing SF)
H) The Star Wars Christmas Special and the Ewok series.
[ed. note] if you answer H, you are a nerd god.
Ummm, which TZ versions? Either the original or that option needs to be dropped from the list.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:01:42pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:02:13pm |
re: #274 yochanan
[Link: www.vanityfair.com...]
I've posted that link several times previously. I don't want to be a repetitive link whore, especially for VF. ;)
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:02:13pm |
re: #269 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Red Dwarf
Farscape
Ohhh good choices!
I love Red Dwarf, but I wasn't really considering comedy when I thought of the list. Farscape though should definitely be on the list as well as Lost though. For that matter, I should prolly add Space Above and Beyond.
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callahan23 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:02:25pm |
re: #259 LudwigVanQuixote
By the way, I am curious and wish to make a quick informal poll...
Best TV Sci Fi
A) Battlestar Galactica (modern version)
B) Babylon 5
C) Firefly
D) Star Trek original series
E) Star Trek Next Gen and derivatives
F) Doctor Who (pick your favorite doctor)
G) Twilight Zone (when doing SF)
H) The Star Wars Christmas Special and the Ewok series.[ed. note] if you answer H, you are a nerd god.
I'll go with Walter here, for me it is Lost and then E)
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snowcrash Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:03:04pm |
re: #259 LudwigVanQuixote
By the way, I am curious and wish to make a quick informal poll...
Best TV Sci Fi
A) Battlestar Galactica (modern version)
B) Babylon 5
C) Firefly
D) Star Trek original series
E) Star Trek Next Gen and derivatives
F) Doctor Who (pick your favorite doctor)
G) Twilight Zone (when doing SF)
H) The Star Wars Christmas Special and the Ewok series.
[ed. note] if you answer H, you are a nerd god.
Torchwood BBC spin off Dr. Who
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VioletTiger Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:03:06pm |
re: #253 avanti
I just have to ask, what the fuck is it with the fascination with his school transcripts ? Do you think Harvard faked his graduation with honors or what ? You are a conservative, where in the constitution does it mention school grades required to be POTUS.
No need for profanity.
It would be interesting to see what he did in school. What classes did he take? What thesis did he write? These are basic things available on just about anybody else. You can go to the school library and find my thesis. You can find people who remember me, hung out with me, were in the same clubs as me. For some reason, nobody knows any of this about Obama. It has nothing to do with faked anything. We really don't know much about this man, that's all.
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Kragar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:03:19pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:03:22pm |
re: #279 LudwigVanQuixote
Ohhh good choices!
I love Red Dwarf, but I wasn't really considering comedy when I thought of the list. Farscape though should definitely be on the list as well as Lost though. For that matter, I should prolly add Space Above and Beyond.
Add Crusade (B5 spinoff) and Sliders (first 3 seasons) if your adding.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:03:25pm |
re: #275 FurryOldGuyJeans
Ummm, which TZ versions? Either the original or that option needs to be dropped from the list.
I meant the original, but several of the second incarnation of TZ had Harlan Ellison writing them. They were quite good. I have heard that there was a briefly lived third incarnation, but I never saw it.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:03:27pm |
re: #253 avanti
I just have to ask, what the fuck is it with the fascination with his school transcripts ? Do you think Harvard faked his graduation with honors or what ? You are a conservative, where in the constitution does it mention school grades required to be POTUS.
the question was raised in the link Sarmuta posted...what is your fascination with the CfC rip off?...where in the Constitution does it give the feds the right to help sell cars?...why do you never address the underlying socialist premise to this ridiculous scam?...you are part of the problem, not the solution...you have zero moral ground in terms of citizens wanting to see BOs records...make me laugh again
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:03:42pm |
re: #271 Sharmuta
I like the fact the books get more complex as you progress in the series. Rowling is a great writer, and I come to appreciate the books more as I re-read them. She's done a great service getting kids into reading.
Well, like I say, I don't know, never rad one, and only saw the "Prisoner" movie once, at home, and was drunk, so I don't remember much. I don't like fantasy at all.
But, I have a young person who is my go to on anything fantasy, such as LOTR and Potter. This person knows things about the books that the authors didn't even know.
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Kragar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:04:15pm |
re: #279 LudwigVanQuixote
Ohhh good choices!
I love Red Dwarf, but I wasn't really considering comedy when I thought of the list. Farscape though should definitely be on the list as well as Lost though. For that matter, I should prolly add Space Above and Beyond.
Stargate franchise as well.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:04:33pm |
re: #285 LudwigVanQuixote
I meant the original, but several of the second incarnation of TZ had Harlan Ellison writing them. They were quite good. I have heard that there was a briefly lived third incarnation, but I never saw it.
Oh, The Prisoner! We can't forget THAT cult favorite! ;)
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:05:15pm |
re: #277 buzzsawmonkey
Well, Casablanca was a happy accident--a perfect-storm convergence of the studio system, the communist Popular Front, US patriotism, and a little bit of Talmud.
And Bogart & Bacall!
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:05:21pm |
re: #283 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
"OK...who's turn was it to feed the butterflies?"
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:05:51pm |
re: #261 buzzsawmonkey
The fascination with his school transcripts is that they represent the only (allegedly) solid achievement in his life, except for being elected to office.
Aren't you even a mite curious as to how the mind of the man running the country was formed--other than his managing to sit in a racist church for 20 years?
Curious perhaps, but none of my business, he graduated with honors, I'll settle for that. If you want to see how he formed his liberalism, just read his books. I don't even care about what he was thinking 25-30 years ago, the time to watch him is the next 4-8 years and stop dwelling on the past.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:06:08pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:07:03pm |
re: #277 buzzsawmonkey
BTW, Buzz, have you seen The Scarlet Pimpernel version with Anthony Andrews and Jane Seymour?
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Kragar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:07:03pm |
re: #292 Fenway_Nation
"OK...who's turn was it to feed the butterflies?"
The Henchmen prep for battle:
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:07:13pm |
re: #286 albusteve
the question was raised in the link Sarmuta posted...what is your fascination with the CfC rip off?...where in the Constitution does it give the feds the right to help sell cars?...why do you never address the underlying socialist premise to this ridiculous scam?...you are part of the problem, not the solution...you have zero moral ground in terms of citizens wanting to see BOs records...make me laugh again
He wants to tell us what is acceptable yet again. We keep taking him off his daily talking points memo and that drives him bonkers since he has no ready answer except to curse.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:07:27pm |
re: #293 avanti
Curious perhaps, but none of my business, he graduated with honors, I'll settle for that. If you want to see how he formed his liberalism, just read his books. I don't even care about what he was thinking 25-30 years ago, the time to watch him is the next 4-8 years and stop dwelling on the past.
And you didn't care about Bushes service record? You could honestly say the same thing about Bush as you say above about Obama?
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Sharmuta Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:07:36pm |
re: #287 Walter L. Newton
Well, like I say, I don't know, never rad one, and only saw the "Prisoner" movie once, at home, and was drunk, so I don't remember much. I don't like fantasy at all.
But, I have a young person who is my go to on anything fantasy, such as LOTR and Potter. This person knows things about the books that the authors didn't even know.
I started reading the Potter books because I was at a girlfriends one Thanksgiving. The next morning, I was the first one up, so I grabbed her daughter's first Potter book to pass some time. Thought I'd see what the kids were into, you know? I really enjoyed it, so I kept reading. As I did so, I became fond of Rowling's ability to enrich and complicate her tale. They're well done books and I believe they'll stand the test of time.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:08:00pm |
re: #293 avanti
Curious perhaps, but none of my business, he graduated with honors, I'll settle for that. If you want to see how he formed his liberalism, just read his books. I don't even care about what he was thinking 25-30 years ago, the time to watch him is the next 4-8 years and stop dwelling on the past.
What he learned 25-30 years ago is what dictates what he does in the next 4-8 years. What's so fucking hard to understand about that?
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:08:12pm |
re: #284 FurryOldGuyJeans
Add Crusade (B5 spinoff) and Sliders (first 3 seasons) if your adding.
Given how much Crusade got screwed over by the studios, I have a hard time putting it up next to B5 - and believe me, I love JMS.
Addendum to list
I) Lost
J) Quantum Leap
K) Logan's Run (the series)
L) Torchwood
M) Sliders
N) Farscape
O) Stargate
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Kragar Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:08:55pm |
re: #295 DEZes
Feed them to what. ;)
SILENCE! Or you will feel the deadly sting of THE MONARCH! Just like the deadly Monarch butterfly whose name I have taken!
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:09:15pm |
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SteveC Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:09:23pm |
re: #291 Floral Giraffe
And Bogart & Bacall!
You land Bogart and Bacall for your movie, you're almost
gar-an-damn-teed at least one Oscar.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:09:45pm |
re: #289 FurryOldGuyJeans
Oh, The Prisoner! We can't forget THAT cult favorite! ;)
I AM A MAN NOT A NUMBER!!!
However, does psychedelia count as sci fi?
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:09:55pm |
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:10:10pm |
re: #301 TheMatrix31
What he learned 25-30 years ago is what dictates what he does in the next 4-8 years. What's so fucking hard to understand about that?
Oh come on. The progressives were never worried about Bushes military service record, or how well he ran a baseball team he owned, or his association with Skull and Bones, or his "C" average in college or his...
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snowcrash Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:10:30pm |
Wasn't there much discussion about Kerry's and Bushes GPA while at Yale? They were similar I think.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:10:37pm |
re: #293 avanti
Curious perhaps, but none of my business, he graduated with honors, I'll settle for that. If you want to see how he formed his liberalism, just read his books. I don't even care about what he was thinking 25-30 years ago, the time to watch him is the next 4-8 years and stop dwelling on the past.
what do you care about avanti?...would you agree with your liberal allies here that we are racist because of our curiosity?...I don't need to read his books because you are a perfect reflection of BOs socialistic/Marxist ideology...it's odd to me what you consider "your business"
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Silvergirl Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:10:38pm |
re: #246 Sharmuta
The piece from your link that I particularly liked:
Today, conservatives and liberals can vacation together or join dating services to court only the like minded. At night, one side watches only MSNBC and the other side only Fox News. And when people are around likeminded individuals, one study found, their viewpoints only become that much more extreme.
The fact that conservatives and liberals and those in between somewhere can blog here with a certain degree of give-and-take helps overcome the extremism referred to above. I also believe we can do more in the way of listening to each other before flying off the handle and filling the comment box with expletives.
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midwestgak Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:11:00pm |
re: #292 Fenway_Nation
"OK...who's turn was it to feed the butterflies?"
The group Heart. The Dog and the . . .
. . . up in the air the fly.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:11:42pm |
re: #293 avanti
You swallow the most egregious crap the administration flunkies spew without even batting an eyelid, yet constantly whine and complain when some people complain about the stench.
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Sharmuta Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:12:05pm |
re: #312 Silvergirl
The fact that conservatives and liberals and those in between somewhere can blog here with a certain degree of give-and-take helps overcome the extremism referred to above. I also believe we can do more in the way of listening to each other before flying off the handle and filling the comment box with expletives.
WTF do you mean by that?!1! ;)
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:12:28pm |
re: #282 VioletTiger
No need for profanity.
It would be interesting to see what he did in school. What classes did he take? What thesis did he write? These are basic things available on just about anybody else. You can go to the school library and find my thesis. You can find people who remember me, hung out with me, were in the same clubs as me. For some reason, nobody knows any of this about Obama. It has nothing to do with faked anything. We really don't know much about this man, that's all.
Sorry about the F word, I though that was SOP on LGF, but I'll stop. There are plenty of folks that talked about Obama in college, and some of the personal stuff he shared in his books was very unusual for a potential politician. i.e. his drug use, some radical associations and the rest. My main point is, like the nirther issue, why dwell on it, nothing you will learn will change the fact that he was elected POTUS and now, there are bigger fish to fry.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:13:05pm |
re: #298 FurryOldGuyJeans
He wants to tell us what is acceptable yet again. We keep taking him off his daily talking points memo and that drives him bonkers since he has no ready answer except to curse.
setting the rules of the dialog...like some others here...they feed off each other...when pressed they ignore the question and go hug each other...spit
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:13:08pm |
re: #293 avanti
"the time to watch him is the next 4-8 years and stop dwelling on the past."
Ignore history, good plan.
///
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:13:09pm |
re: #272 SixDegrees
Mostly agree, but keep in mind that the films we still watch from a half-century ago are still around because those are the cream of the crop. The studios pumped out vast amounts of dreck during all periods; most of it is thankfully forgotten. But a relative handful are so good that they stick around, enthralling audiences generation after generation.
That is so true.
I figure that a good year for movies has two to three really good ones and maybe another two or three just good ones, as opposed to dozens of pieces of crap. A bad year for movies has one or two that weren't completely stupid and dozens of pieces of crap. Great use of the word dreck BTW.
In case any non Yiddish using lizards didn't know, dreck means shit.
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Silvergirl Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:13:33pm |
re: #294 buzzsawmonkey
Buzz, if you don't know of this blog, you might want to take a look. It's a favorite of mine.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:14:05pm |
re: #316 buzzsawmonkey
I will put this as politely as I can: shut the hell up about "graduated with honors," already. Those of us who went to universities of the caliber that Obama attended know what a hollow fraud those "honors" can be. Your constant genuflection to that empty phrase is touching, but suggests that you have absolutely no basis for assessing its worth.
I don't know what "forming his liberalism" means; I would like to know what he studied, and with whom, because that means a lot more than the fact that he got "honors"--more, it actually allows one to assess whether those "honors" have any genuine substance or not. Which is, I suspect, precisely why you and others of your political stripe are so vehemently opposed to the material being made public.
His books are self-promoting puff pieces; I want to see what is behind them. And I want to find out about his past because the past is prologue, and I want to be able to gauge, from his past, precisely how badly he's going to stick us in the present and future.
One word "AYERS."
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Silvergirl Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:14:12pm |
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Sharmuta Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:14:56pm |
Question for Potter fans: which book is your favorite and why?
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:16:01pm |
re: #317 avanti
Sorry about the F word, I though that was SOP on LGF, but I'll stop. There are plenty of folks that talked about Obama in college, and some of the personal stuff he shared in his books was very unusual for a potential politician. i.e. his drug use, some radical associations and the rest. My main point is, like the nirther issue, why dwell on it, nothing you will learn will change the fact that he was elected POTUS and now, there are bigger fish to fry.
like what?...maintaining this mysterious messiah personna is no small thing
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:16:17pm |
re: #293 avanti
Curious perhaps, but none of my business, he graduated with honors, I'll settle for that. If you want to see how he formed his liberalism, just read his books. I don't even care about what he was thinking 25-30 years ago, the time to watch him is the next 4-8 years and stop dwelling on the past.
I wonder if you would apply this same "logic" to the person marrying your daughter?
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SteveC Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:16:21pm |
re: #326 formercorpsman
But he graduated with honors.
I assume he got a degree? I graduated with 100 degrees. I had a fever!
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:16:26pm |
Oh my...this is reassuring.
The White House is worried about the 'manufactured' outrage over 0bamacare and needs our help in tracking down the source of all this manufactured 'rumors'.
There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag-AT-whitehouse.gov.
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eon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:17:16pm |
re: #259 LudwigVanQuixote
By the way, I am curious and wish to make a quick informal poll...
Best TV Sci Fi
A) Battlestar Galactica (modern version)
B) Babylon 5
C) Firefly
D) Star Trek original series
E) Star Trek Next Gen and derivatives
F) Doctor Who (pick your favorite doctor)
G) Twilight Zone (when doing SF)
H) The Star Wars Christmas Special and the Ewok series.
[ed. note] if you answer H, you are a nerd god.
I've never seen the new BG, as I hated the original. Now that it's out on DVD, I might just sit through it.
B5 was excellent throughout; possibly the best "Hard SF" TV series to date.
Firefly was OK- but I really couldn't get into it. If it had gotten a second season, it might have actually found its voice, as they say. (Serenity, the movie, showed what might have been.)
Star Trek- TOS? I love it, in spite of its faults. (As a longtime Trekkie, going back to the original airing of "Where No Man Has Gone Before" on 22 Sept 1966, I can criticize with a clear conscience.)
Star Trek; The Next Generation was, IMHO, much less interesting than Enterprise, and far less interesting than Deep Space Nine. As for Voyager, I gave up on it early on; only Seven of Nine (Jeri Ryan) convinced me to watch any of the later episodes.
Doctor Who- Favorite Doctor(s); John Pertwee, Sylvester McCoy, and Tom Baker. Least favorite; Colin Baker and the new guy. Overall, I liked the show "way back when"- shoehorning it into one-hour (actually 43-minute) slots is killing it. Oh, PS- favorite Companions; Leela, Martha, Ace, and K-9.
Twilight Zone did some of the best SF ever put on TV, with episodes like "Third From the Sun", "The Rip Van Winkle Caper", "Number 12 Looks Just Like You", and "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street". Serling bridged the "gap" between horror and SF very effectively. ("Number 12", based on a Charles Beaumont story, "The Beautiful People", would have scared the hell out of Aldous Huxley and George Orwell both.)
I saw the Star Wars Christmas Special, and studiously avoided the Ewok show. What I mainly learned from the special is that, while she's quite beautiful, Carrie Fisher did not inherit any appreciable amount of her mother's singing talent; good, but not great like Debbie.
How did I do?
cheers
eon
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Silvergirl Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:17:35pm |
re: #330 Walter L. Newton
I wonder if you would apply this same "logic" to the person marrying your daughter?
Guess who's coming to dinner?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:17:48pm |
re: #320 LudwigVanQuixote
That is so true.
I figure that a good year for movies has two to three really good ones and maybe another two or three just good ones, as opposed to dozens of pieces of crap. A bad year for movies has one or two that weren't completely stupid and dozens of pieces of crap. Great use of the word dreck BTW.
In case any non Yiddish using lizards didn't know, dreck means shit.
1939 was an exceptional year that many a good film is still largely unknown, like Ninotchka.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:18:14pm |
re: #332 Fenway_Nation
Oh my...this is reassuring.
The White House is worried about the 'manufactured' outrage over 0bamacare and needs our help in tracking down the source of all this manufactured 'rumors'.
Big Brother...rat out your neighbor...I'm on the verge I tell ya
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:18:16pm |
re: #296 pre-Boomer Marine brat
BTW, Buzz, have you seen The Scarlet Pimpernel version with Anthony Andrews and Jane Seymour?
When I was younger, I had such a crush on Jane Seymour (the actress, not the queen). She's Jewish too.
In fact I will date myself, but, between her on the original BSG and Princess Leia in the metal bikini, girls went from ucky to fascinating.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:18:18pm |
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:18:33pm |
re: #332 Fenway_Nation
Oh my...this is reassuring.
The White House is worried about the 'manufactured' outrage over 0bamacare and needs our help in tracking down the source of all this manufactured 'rumors'.
I thought all you needed to do was pass the information on to your block captain?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:18:55pm |
re: #339 buzzsawmonkey
Lauren Bacall was not in Casablanca. Her first film with Bogart was To Have and Have Not.
Ingrid Bergman played opposite Bogart in Casablanca--though frankly it's Bogart's and Rains's movie.
Bogart and Rains, very weird love story. ;)
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:19:16pm |
re: #299 Walter L. Newton
And you didn't care about Bushes service record? You could honestly say the same thing about Bush as you say above about Obama?
Walter, some of those issues raised during a election campaign make a lot of sense. Once the voters have made up their minds, it's simply a waste of time, Bush or Obama unless you suspect a impeachable offense.
No, I did not care about Bush's service record after he was elected.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:19:47pm |
re: #342 Walter L. Newton
I thought all you needed to do was pass the information on to your block captain?
The City Kommisars haven't gotten around to appoint the block captains, yet.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:20:25pm |
re: #332 Fenway_Nation
Oh my...this is reassuring.
The White House is worried about the 'manufactured' outrage over 0bamacare and needs our help in tracking down the source of all this manufactured 'rumors'.
That's so fucking creepy. I'm really sick of this crap.
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Silvergirl Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:20:36pm |
re: #337 Sharmuta
I also liked Quantum Leap.
I may have to admit to a Scott Bakula infatuation, but the show was one of my favorites too.
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solomonpanting Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:20:44pm |
re: #317 avanti
Sorry about the F word, I though that was SOP on LGF
That is not "standard" here. My unscientific best guesstimate would be that less than ten percent, and probably many fewer, of posters here drop the F bomb.
Not f*cking fair of you.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:20:46pm |
re: #344 avanti
Walter, some of those issues raised during a election campaign make a lot of sense. Once the voters have made up their minds, it's simply a waste of time, Bush or Obama unless you suspect a impeachable offense.
No, I did not care about Bush's service record after he was elected.
which issues made sense?
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Sharmuta Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:20:52pm |
re: #345 SteveC
My vote would have to go to the Original Star Trek, though. It set the standard.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:21:03pm |
re: #344 avanti
YOU think it's a waste of time, which shows how much crap you are willing to swallow.
And that's all I say on this.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:21:44pm |
re: #321 buzzsawmonkey
Jane Seymour? I didn't know Henry VIII allowed his wife to act.
Seriously, though--no.
("With her head .. tucked .. underneath her arm ... ")
This one's tone is far different from that of the 30's classic. It's well worth a look-see. Fine acting. A bit of a melodramatic swashbuckler, but melodrama done deliberately (and well done) for effect. Ian McKellan creates a wonderful villain.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:22:10pm |
"I don't plan profanity, it just rolls right off my tongue"
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esch Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:22:23pm |
re: #347 TheMatrix31
That's so fucking creepy. I'm really sick of this crap.
Oh, it's going to get a hell of a lot worse than this. I'm waiting for the 'hints' to start.
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formercorpsman Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:22:34pm |
re: #317 avanti
Actually Avanti, yourself and others like twisting this argument.
Your response has nothing to do with the justification Buzz just gave you as it relates to this particular matter.
It a tap dance that you, and some others do on here while never really answering what people opine on.
I can only speak for myself, but wanting to see his credentials (college transcripts) has nothing to do with using them to oust him from office. He was elected, that is that.
As well, implying such a thing is nothing more than an attempt to tarnish anyone who will actually give enough of their own time to assess what is in front of them, other than just being fed the hope & change regurgitation like a baby bird.
As well, his books were not all that long ago.
He said it himself.
Transparency.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:22:51pm |
re: #334 eon
I wasn't quizing with a right or wrong, but, you have proven that you can hang with us sci fi folks with great prowess. Is you nic a Greg Bear ref?
If you liked B5, and I LOVE it, then you will truly love the new BSG for it's hard sci fi aspects. Also the new BSG is the only science fiction that I have seen where the space military looks, acts and reacts like a real military. BSG is dark, gritty and all to real about the human condition. It also maintains consistent rules for it's physics, and because of that, it has tactics to explore and the ability to show a really great commander coming up with a really great plan - and conversely, bad commanders screwing up and getting people killed.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:23:10pm |
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jamgarr Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:23:43pm |
re: #327 Sharmuta
Question for Potter fans: which book is your favorite and why?
The first (introduction to that world)
and
The last (the second-half was non-putdownable!)
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:23:45pm |
Since we are on about SciFi TV series, how about SciFi movies that set the standard?
Forbidden Planet comes to mind.
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:23:52pm |
re: #330 Walter L. Newton
I wonder if you would apply this same "logic" to the person marrying your daughter?
Absolutely, I'd would not judge a 48 year old suitor for his youthful behavior, nor demand his college transcripts. My son is 28 years old, and a totally different man then he was even 10 years ago.
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SteveC Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:25:19pm |
re: #335 Silvergirl
Guess who's coming to dinner?
Another WONDERFUL Movie: In the Heat of the Night
"I got the motive which is money and the body which is dead!"
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:25:19pm |
re: #359 pre-Boomer Marine brat
"I kissed the Polish lancer too."
I love that line, in its context.
I finally saw the movie a couple of weeks ago and now semi-regret having not seen it sooner. The original tagline says all one needs to know about the movie:
Garbo Laughs
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3 wood Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:25:28pm |
Well Biden found a microphone again.
Get ready for it:
Biden: Economic Stimulus 'Is Working'
*snicker*...
*snort*...
Bwwaaahaaahaaa.
Vice President Biden cited more positive economic data on Tuesday, using it to buttress the Obama administration's argument that its $787 billion stimulus program is doing its job and revving up the economy."I can tell you today, without reservation, the Recovery Act is working," Biden told reporters after a White House meeting about the stimulus program with members of the administration's economic team. President Obama was not present.
Nearly six months after Obama signed the stimulus program into law, the administration is trying to counter criticism, as well as perceptions, that the program has failed to create thousands of promised jobs.
Nationwide unemployment has risen every month since the stimulus took effect in February, climbing in June to a 26-year high of 9.5 percent. The July rate, which the government will announce Friday, was expected to be even higher.
I predict another attack by the MSM on Palin to counter.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:25:45pm |
re: #361 FurryOldGuyJeans
Since we are on about SciFi TV series, how about SciFi movies that set the standard?
Forbidden Planet comes to mind.
Excellent, Forbidden Planet broke alot of new ground.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:25:51pm |
re: #340 LudwigVanQuixote
When I was younger, I had such a crush on Jane Seymour (the actress, not the queen). She's Jewish too.
In fact I will date myself, but, between her on the original BSG and Princess Leia in the metal bikini, girls went from ucky to fascinating.
You "date" yourself?
Go sit in the corner, young 'un!
For me it was Annette Funicello ... ON THE MICKEY MOUSE CLUB !
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:26:03pm |
re: #349 solomonpanting
That is not "standard" here. My unscientific best guesstimate would be that less than ten percent, and probably many fewer, of posters here drop the F bomb.
Not f*cking fair of you.
To be honest, that's a bit unfair, one or two posters use it daily without a word of protest, but I will agree to stop and hope that others will to.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:26:31pm |
re: #367 3 wood
Well Biden found a microphone again.
Get ready for it:
Biden: Economic Stimulus 'Is Working'
*snicker*...
*snort*...
Bwwaaahaaahaaa.
I predict another attack by the MSM on Palin to counter.
Expect another resurrection of the Bush Boogie Man wedged in there somewhere.
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Irish Rose Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:27:09pm |
Is it just me, or is there more than the usual amount of mudslinging on the blog tonight?
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:27:20pm |
re: #362 avanti
Absolutely, I'd would not judge a 48 year old suitor for his youthful behavior, nor demand his college transcripts. My son is 28 years old, and a totally different man then he was even 10 years ago.
Except Barack Obama is proven to be exactly the same as what he was and what he was influenced by so long ago.
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Scion9 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:27:26pm |
re: #344 avanti
You know he's going to run again in a few years right?
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wrenchwench Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:28:10pm |
re: #373 Irish Rose
Is it just me, or is there more than the usual amount of mudslinging on the blog tonight?
It's certainly not you. You are not slinging your share.
/
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:28:21pm |
re: #361 FurryOldGuyJeans
Since we are on about SciFi TV series, how about SciFi movies that set the standard?
Forbidden Planet comes to mind.
Blade Runner
Aliens (better than the original IMHO, and lots of the gadgets are actually now deployed)
Star Wars IV-VI (even if it is absolutely space opera, it is THE space opera, and it certainly set the standard)
Day the Earth Stood Still (the original of course!)
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Clockwork Orange
1984 version of 1984
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jamgarr Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:28:23pm |
re: #361 FurryOldGuyJeans
Since we are on about SciFi TV series, how about SciFi movies that set the standard?
Forbidden Planet comes to mind.
"Would 50 gallons be sufficient?"
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:28:26pm |
re: #366 FurryOldGuyJeans
I finally saw the movie a couple of weeks ago and now semi-regret having not seen it sooner. The original tagline says all one needs to know about the movie:
Garbo Laughs
Have you seen Scarlet Earrings, with Dietrich and Ray Milland?
/and if you ask who I mean by "Dietrich", I'm gonna ... !
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Silvergirl Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:28:27pm |
re: #365 SteveC
Another WONDERFUL Movie: In the Heat of the Night
"I got the motive which is money and the body which is dead!"
The slap heard round the world.
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Irish Rose Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:28:46pm |
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:29:00pm |
re: #370 pre-Boomer Marine brat
You "date" yourself?
Go sit in the corner, young 'un!
For me it was Annette Funicello ... ON THE MICKEY MOUSE CLUB !
Fabulous!
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SteveC Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:29:36pm |
re: #373 Irish Rose
Is it just me, or is there more than the usual amount of mudslinging on the blog tonight?
It's LGF movie night. Some of us want the classics, a couple want action/adventure, one or two want romance, and someone wants The Life and Times Of Barak Obama
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eon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:29:51pm |
re: #306 SteveC
You land Bogart and Bacall for your movie, you're almost
gar-an-damn-teed at least one Oscar.
The Big Sleep, along with The Maltese Falcon probably the best film noir' of them all.
I was watching the DVD release of Clint Eastwood's "Dirty Harry" movie Sudden Impact (1983) the other day (having just bought it), and it hit me that unlike the other "DH" films, which are police actioners, SI is in fact a classic film noir', being essentially a revenge melodrama with Harry in the role' of the detective who, in trying to run down a murderer, uncovers some secrets the locals would prefer stay hidden. And in the end, he sides with the killer, on the grounds that she was just getting "rough justice", that being the only kind available. Add in the California locations, and it's practically a Bogart movie.
Sudden Impact could be considered one of the earliest examples of what is now called "neo noir'", that is a film noir' set in the modern world as opposed to the 1930s-50s, and in color instead of black and white.
cheers
eon
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:29:52pm |
re: #339 buzzsawmonkey
Whoops!
Thanks for fixing that.
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wrenchwench Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:30:05pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:30:07pm |
re: #369 DEZes
Excellent, Forbidden Planet broke alot of new ground.
Terminator, and T2. Especially the extended version of T2.
The Abyss.
2001: A Space Odyssey
Original Planet of the Apes, not the barfy remake. (*vomit*)
When Worlds Collide
Conquest of Space
This Island Earth
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:30:09pm |
re: #352 FurryOldGuyJeans
YOU think it's a waste of time, which shows how much crap you are willing to swallow.
And that's all I say on this.
That's why Obama won't release all of the stuff the right asks for, he likes you to spent time with your eye off the ball IMHO. He can only hope that Hannity does the Ayers/Wright manta in 2012 too.
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callahan23 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:30:13pm |
re: #361 FurryOldGuyJeans
Since we are on about SciFi TV series, how about SciFi movies that set the standard?
Forbidden Planet comes to mind.
Also Alien and Blade Runner set some very valuable standards.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:30:14pm |
re: #361 FurryOldGuyJeans
Since we are on about SciFi TV series, how about SciFi movies that set the standard?
Forbidden Planet comes to mind.
And of course, forbidden Planet is awesome. It is the Tempest after all.
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Silvergirl Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:30:30pm |
Speaking of movies, you Netflix fans might enjoy this peek into the operations.
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jamgarr Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:30:44pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:30:53pm |
re: #373 Irish Rose
Is it just me, or is there more than the usual amount of mudslinging on the blog tonight?
Well, ... we could talk about suntanning ...
/... that is, if I wanted to die fast and dreadfully ... :D
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solomonpanting Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:31:00pm |
re: #371 avanti
To be honest, that's a bit unfair, one or two posters use it daily without a word of protest, but I will agree to stop and hope that others will to.
I think you missed my point. And that is I'm not demanding an end to the use of the F word, rather, it's not SOP.
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3 wood Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:31:29pm |
re: #317 avanti
Sorry about the F word, I though that was SOP on LGF, but I'll stop.
Just speaking for myself, you have never seen me curse here and you never will.
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Learned Mother of Zion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:31:54pm |
Lizards, I have a problem.
I checked the stats for my website (not the Vicious Babushka blog, but my other website which hosts the Zionist Mall and history site) and I am getting about 30-40 hits a day from some porn site, probably hotlinking a graphic on my server. (No I do not have any porn on my server)
Is there any way I can find out from my stats which graphic they are hotlinking, without actually going to that link? Or is there some brave Lizard who will volunteer to investigate?
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:31:54pm |
Oh come on...nobody mentioned Blade Runner?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:32:05pm |
re: #379 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Have you seen Scarlet Earrings, with Dietrich and Ray Milland?
/and if you ask who I mean by "Dietrich", I'm gonna ... !
No (adds to Netflix queue if on DVD).
I hope you are referring to Marlene. She was good in Judgment at Nuremberg
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:32:20pm |
re: #394 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Well, ... we could talk about suntanning ...
/... that is, if I wanted to die fast and dreadfully ... :D
Yes, but you'll make a handsome corpse with that copper glow.
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3 wood Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:32:29pm |
re: #371 avanti
To be honest, that's a bit unfair, one or two posters use it daily without a word of protest, but I will agree to stop and hope that others will to.
One or two = SOP?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:32:44pm |
re: #373 Irish Rose
Is it just me, or is there more than the usual amount of mudslinging on the blog tonight?
People were squabbling this morning but it seem ok now. I've seen worse.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:34:14pm |
re: #389 callahan23
Also Alien and Blade Runner set some very valuable standards.
Ah, very good movies, I was thinking close encounters.
Your picks are more worthy.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:34:33pm |
re: #402 formercorpsman
I try to keep my cursing until after happy hour. 26 minutes and counting...
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:34:34pm |
re: #398 3 wood
Just speaking for myself, you have never seen me curse here and you never will.
Good, I'll join you on the no F bomb list. If I slip up, call me on it please.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:35:38pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:36:22pm |
re: #388 avanti
Dude, get a clue. I am not the one obsessing about the transcripts, you are. I am just commenting on your very obvious attempts at deflection.
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Scion9 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:36:35pm |
re: #400 Fenway_Nation
Oh come on...nobody mentioned Blade Runner?
I don't remember where I read it, but apparently PKD ranted and raved about all the crazy changes that Scott was doing to his story and how it would be nothing like what he had imagined. Upon seeing the workprint of the film, he was extremely pleased, saying that it was just like what he had imagined when writing it.
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:37:24pm |
I feel bad for the kids down the street. Terrible, mean and dysfunctional family. They never laugh when they're out playing, just screaming and crying.
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:37:32pm |
re: #404 3 wood
One or two = SOP?
Well, one that uses it more in a day, then I do in a few weeks. No excuse for me to pick up the habit though, and I apologize yet again.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:37:59pm |
re: #401 FurryOldGuyJeans
No (adds to Netflix queue if on DVD).
I hope you are referring to Marlene. She was good in Judgment at Nuremberg
OF COURSE I MEAN MARL*whacks self*
Sorry, yes, I do mean the world's sexiest grandmother.
Yes, she made a good "daughter of the military" in that movie. I do an unmanly swoon when she does a double-take at Tracy, then gently asks if he'd like more coffee.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:38:00pm |
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avanti Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:38:11pm |
re: #414 Killgore Trout
I feel bad for the kids down the street. Terrible, mean and dysfunctional family. They never laugh when they're out playing, just screaming and crying.
Torchwood !!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:38:21pm |
re: #400 Fenway_Nation
Oh come on...nobody mentioned Blade Runner?
I am semi-surprised no one has mentioned Metropolis.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:38:43pm |
re: #406 Killgore Trout
People were squabbling this morning but it seem ok now. I've seen worse.
Defenders of the Truth never rest amigo...THY WILL BE DONE!
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:39:30pm |
re: #419 FurryOldGuyJeans
I am semi-surprised no one has mentioned Metropolis.
I have to admit never seeing it, but I know how to fix that. ;)
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:39:46pm |
re: #414 Killgore Trout
I feel bad for the kids down the street. Terrible, mean and dysfunctional family. They never laugh when they're out playing, just screaming and crying.
BTW, how's the lady next door doing?
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:39:57pm |
re: #417 DEZes
OK...so I'm only lagging by 11 posts or so
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Silvergirl Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:40:40pm |
re: #411 Killgore Trout
Strap-on mini helicopters the latest way to travel
[Video]
Now we're getting somewhere.
Though they do bring to mind a couple of old wringer washers.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:41:19pm |
re: #416 pre-Boomer Marine brat
OF COURSE I MEAN MARL*whacks self*
Sorry, yes, I do mean the world's sexiest grandmother.Yes, she made a good "daughter of the military" in that movie. I do an unmanly swoon when she does a double-take at Tracy, then gently asks if he'd like more coffee.
Ku-el! Both Blonde Venus and Golden Earrings are at the local library, in a 2 disc collection of a couple of other Deitrich films. Queued!
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formercorpsman Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:41:22pm |
re: #409 Killgore Trout
I'm really bad when I work on the cars and stuff.
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ggt Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:41:42pm |
Hello Lizards!
I just got one of those "Johns Hopkins Cancer Updates" in my email inbox. It has become such an urban myth that Johns Hopkins has devoted an webpage to it.
I can't believe what other people will believe!
ugh
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callahan23 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:42:07pm |
re: #408 DEZes
Ah, very good movies, I was thinking close encounters.
Your picks are more worthy.
Both Alien and Blade Runner set new standards for designs and optics. Alien was very strong in the suspense department and Blade Runner described pretty good a future society with a new twist on the 'I Robot' plot of Asimov. Though the idea is typical Philip K. Dick.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:42:14pm |
OK WORST sci fi movies you ever had the misfortune of seeing...
For me it was Mission to Mars which was touted as being advised by NASA and presented itself as something that would be hard sf. It delivered gravity defying m&m DNA strands that the characters identified as human, by eye, and with less than 50 base pairs to look at. It delivered momentum NOT being conserved. It delivered incorrect orbital mechanics. It delivered a truly mind numbingly bad script and mind numbingly bad acting - and it wrapped up with a dopey New Agey Hollywood ending. When I saw it in the theatre, people claped at one of the tear jerk moments when one of the astronauts died. Ironically, he could have been saved if only momentum were conserved in space...
My second on the list is The Core. It is equally mind numbingly stupid, however, there is a certain goofiness to it that allows me to laugh at it more than hate it.
My third most hated Sci Fi is Starship Troopers for taking one of the best sci fi books ever written and turing it into a farce with a message completely antithetical to the original story. The book was one of the best discussions of the philosophy and need for a military I have ever seen. Of course Verhoven hates all things military and had to make a sort of Eurotrash left wing take on it - in addition to completely taking away from the more interesting sci fi aspects of the novel by making the military stupid and under equipped.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:42:28pm |
Best elective class I took in college was "a history of fantasy, sci-fi and horror films". It was a ton of fun!
May I mention the original Godzilla?
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:42:29pm |
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reine.de.tout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:42:52pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:43:48pm |
re: #421 DEZes
I have to admit never seeing it, but I know how to fix that. ;)
Fair Warning: Metropolis is a silent movie. But you will see one of the inspirations for Star Wars.
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eon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:44:05pm |
re: #358 LudwigVanQuixote
I wasn't quizing with a right or wrong, but, you have proven that you can hang with us sci fi folks with great prowess. Is you nic a Greg Bear ref?
If you liked B5, and I LOVE it, then you will truly love the new BSG for it's hard sci fi aspects. Also the new BSG is the only science fiction that I have seen where the space military looks, acts and reacts like a real military. BSG is dark, gritty and all to real about the human condition. It also maintains consistent rules for it's physics, and because of that, it has tactics to explore and the ability to show a really great commander coming up with a really great plan - and conversely, bad commanders screwing up and getting people killed.
Vanity prods me to say "yes"on my nic (being a Bear fan, notably Strength of Stones and, yes, Eon), but honesty compels me to say "no"; in fact, it's an accident. Early in my online 'life', while signing up at the old Strategypage.com, I was signing in and mistakenly thought I was choosing a password as per the SOP at ATT/Yahoo. Having just read a book on the history of the James Bond films, made by Eon Productions, I thought "eonprod" would make an easy-to-remember password. I typed in "e-o-n"- and then accidentally hit the ENTER key with my right pinkie. "eon" was born, and I've used it ever since. (I don't believe in messing with fate.)
Just your description of the new BG is getting my interest up. My favorite modern SF writers are David Weber, Steve White, Eric Flint, and John Ringo. Weber's Honorverse and White's Starfire series are almost textbooks on how to realistically fight space battles. Weber & Ringo's Empire of Man aka Prince Roger series is another good example.
/for the record, the Royal Manticoran Navy (Weber) would eat most TV and movie "Star Fleets" for lunch.
cheers
eon
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jamgarr Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:44:11pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:44:26pm |
re: #432 Floral Giraffe
Best elective class I took in college was "a history of fantasy, sci-fi and horror films". It was a ton of fun!
May I mention the original Godzilla?
Japanese version, sod the Raymond Burr abortion!
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:44:31pm |
re: #429 callahan23
Both Alien and Blade Runner set new standards for designs and optics. Alien was very strong in the suspense department and Blade Runner described pretty good a future society with a new twist on the 'I Robot' plot of Asimov. Though the idea is typical Philip K. Dick.
I have Blade Runner in my collection as well as all the alien movies.
Aliens (AKA alien 2) was one of the best fun movies of all time.
Yes I am twisted. ;)
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Charles Johnson Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:44:33pm |
re: #399 Alouette
Lizards, I have a problem.
I checked the stats for my website (not the Vicious Babushka blog, but my other website which hosts the Zionist Mall and history site) and I am getting about 30-40 hits a day from some porn site, probably hotlinking a graphic on my server. (No I do not have any porn on my server)
Is there any way I can find out from my stats which graphic they are hotlinking, without actually going to that link? Or is there some brave Lizard who will volunteer to investigate?
That's probably referrer spam (the stupidest form of spam), not a hotlink. Not much you can do about it...
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formercorpsman Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:44:37pm |
re: #435 formercorpsman
I'm done. I actually have made a conscious effort not to do that anymore.
Steve, my mom said I am not allowed to play anymore.
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Silvergirl Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:44:43pm |
re: #427 jamgarr
Logan's Run
Barbarella
John Phillip Law (RIP). Ahh.
I couldn't believe he was in that horrible Space Mutiny flick featured on MST3K.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:44:45pm |
re: #428 ggt
That is very sad, to see a great institution have to waste their resources refuting junk email.
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ggt Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:44:52pm |
re: #431 LudwigVanQuixote
OK WORST sci fi movies you ever had the misfortune of seeing...
For me it was Mission to Mars which was touted as being advised by NASA and presented itself as something that would be hard sf. It delivered gravity defying m&m DNA strands that the characters identified as human, by eye, and with less than 50 base pairs to look at. It delivered momentum NOT being conserved. It delivered incorrect orbital mechanics. It delivered a truly mind numbingly bad script and mind numbingly bad acting - and it wrapped up with a dopey New Agey Hollywood ending. When I saw it in the theatre, people claped at one of the tear jerk moments when one of the astronauts died. Ironically, he could have been saved if only momentum were conserved in space...
My second on the list is The Core. It is equally mind numbingly stupid, however, there is a certain goofiness to it that allows me to laugh at it more than hate it.
My third most hated Sci Fi is Starship Troopers for taking one of the best sci fi books ever written and turing it into a farce with a message completely antithetical to the original story. The book was one of the best discussions of the philosophy and need for a military I have ever seen. Of course Verhoven hates all things military and had to make a sort of Eurotrash left wing take on it - in addition to completely taking away from the more interesting sci fi aspects of the novel by making the military stupid and under equipped.
I'm with you on Starship Troopers. WTF@CK!
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:45:04pm |
re: #422 pre-Boomer Marine brat
She seem to be doing much better. There was a flurry of activity of there fro a while with workmen fix up her house( I assume to accommodate her size), they added a handrail and wheelchair ramp to her front steps. People stop by every once in a while to check on her. They sometimes leave balloons on her door. The put a toy monkey hanging from her little tree in the front yard. They're doing a really nice job.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:45:29pm |
re: #427 jamgarr
Logan's Run
Barbarella
Well, I think those movies fit with my Jane Seymour and Princess Leia revelations...
Young Jenny Agutter was incredibly fine...
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:45:39pm |
re: #442 Charles
That's probably referrer spam (the stupidest form of spam), not a hotlink. Not much you can do about it...
Does Monty Python know you're dissing them!?!?!
//
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:45:46pm |
re: #431 LudwigVanQuixote
Yeah, Starship Troopers sure was an abortion and a half.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:46:20pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:46:24pm |
re: #425 FurryOldGuyJeans
Ku-el! Both Blonde Venus and Golden Earrings are at the local library, in a 2 disc collection of a couple of other Deitrich films. Queued!
Dietrich's gypsy might be like olives -- acquired taste. If so at first, hang very tough until the later scenes.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:46:55pm |
re: #437 eon
Vanity prods me to say "yes"on my nic (being a Bear fan, notably Strength of Stones and, yes, Eon), but honesty compels me to say "no"; in fact, it's an accident. Early in my online 'life', while signing up at the old Strategypage.com, I was signing in and mistakenly thought I was choosing a password as per the SOP at ATT/Yahoo. Having just read a book on the history of the James Bond films, made by Eon Productions, I thought "eonprod" would make an easy-to-remember password. I typed in "e-o-n"- and then accidentally hit the ENTER key with my right pinkie. "eon" was born, and I've used it ever since. (I don't believe in messing with fate.)
Just your description of the new BG is getting my interest up. My favorite modern SF writers are David Weber, Steve White, Eric Flint, and John Ringo. Weber's Honorverse and White's Starfire series are almost textbooks on how to realistically fight space battles. Weber & Ringo's Empire of Man aka Prince Roger series is another good example.
/for the record, the Royal Manticoran Navy (Weber) would eat most TV and movie "Star Fleets" for lunch.
cheers
eon
OK, if you like Weber and White and David Drake et al... you will absofuckinglutely love the new BSG.
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:47:03pm |
re: #440 FurryOldGuyJeans
I love it when English comes out of the actors mouths, moving in Japanese!
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solomonpanting Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:47:22pm |
re: #399 Alouette
Lizards, I have a problem.
I checked the stats for my website (not the Vicious Babushka blog, but my other website which hosts the Zionist Mall and history site) and I am getting about 30-40 hits a day from some porn site, probably hotlinking a graphic on my server. (No I do not have any porn on my server)
Is there any way I can find out from my stats which graphic they are hotlinking, without actually going to that link? Or is there some brave Lizard who will volunteer to investigate?
Sorry to hear that.
Is it foreign porn or porn in the USA?
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Irish Rose Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:47:24pm |
I'd like to cut down on my use of the word, but I can't.
I'm Irish... we're hardwired to throw "f" bombs.
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jamgarr Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:47:32pm |
For me Starship Troopers was one of those so bad it's good things - like Independence Day
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:47:51pm |
re: #452 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Dietrich's gypsy might be like olives -- acquired taste. If so at first, hang very tough until the later scenes.
I love older movies that actually have plots and acting in them. Action films, especially with CGI up the wazoo, bore me to tears.
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Fenway_Nation Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:48:09pm |
re: #427 jamgarr
In the movie version of Logans Run, all the people are forced to evacuate their city of Crystal Spires And Togas, when the Evil AI that ran it is defeated. Despite the evil, it was a beautiful and decadent Utopia where no one had wants or needed to know a valuable skill or trade. The downside was it killed them at 30. To put it plainly, these humans are entirely dependent on machines to provide and don't even know what the Sun is. The Sun! Saying 90% of the thousands of refugees died in the winter would be optimistic, as they knew nothing about wilderness survival and had only one senile elder human to teach them how to survive.
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ggt Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:48:19pm |
re: #446 ggt
I'm with you on Starship Troopers. WTF@CK!
I thought their rebuttal was good. Anyone who is really considering the whacko approach will at least be referred to sources for good information.
Being a vegetarian and having practiced yoga for over a decade, I get exposed to a lot of this type of info and people. What suprises me is the people that send me email sometimes. They aren't vegan/yoga types.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:48:28pm |
Who's ready to laugh?
I posted this one morning a week or two ago, but I don't thank more than one or two people saw it. This in my opinion is one of the funniest things I've ever seen, although I will admit I was ashamed of myself for laughing so hard.
Cajun OnStar call - the OnStar guy deserves an award of some sort for staying as calm and professional as he did through this:
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Sharmuta Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:48:31pm |
re: #457 Irish Rose
I'd like to cut down on my use of the word, but I can't.
I'm Irish... we're hardwired to throw "f" bombs.
That's gotta be fuckin' rough.
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tradewind Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:49:00pm |
re: #431 LudwigVanQuixote
Did you catch the premier of that miniseries ' Defying Gravity '?
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:49:11pm |
re: #447 Killgore Trout
She seem to be doing much better. There was a flurry of activity of there fro a while with workmen fix up her house( I assume to accommodate her size), they added a handrail and wheelchair ramp to her front steps. People stop by every once in a while to check on her. They sometimes leave balloons on her door. The put a toy monkey hanging from her little tree in the front yard. They're doing a really nice job.
GREAT!
So she is finally networked in with people who'll look after her?!
*grin*
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:50:59pm |
I am a devout fuckist...but I refrain from using the fuck word because I need to work on my intellectual image...I don't want to sound like a no kooth fucking idiot
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jamgarr Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:51:11pm |
re: #460 Fenway_Nation
But they wore pastel see-thru hankies and had a cool robot!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:51:39pm |
re: #463 Sharmuta
That's gotta be fuckin' rough.
What a fuckin' shame such things can be so shittin' hard.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:51:54pm |
re: #436 FurryOldGuyJeans
Fair Warning: Metropolis is a silent movie. But you will see one of the inspirations for Star Wars.
If memory serves, it was filmed in 1929.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:52:18pm |
re: #447 Killgore Trout
She seem to be doing much better. There was a flurry of activity of there fro a while with workmen fix up her house( I assume to accommodate her size), they added a handrail and wheelchair ramp to her front steps. People stop by every once in a while to check on her. They sometimes leave balloons on her door. The put a toy monkey hanging from her little tree in the front yard. They're doing a really nice job.
and these are the people you contacted on her behalf?
Let me say that again for those who are still upset at the terminology you used in the very first post I recall about your neighbor . . .
These people helping her are the folks YOU contacted on behalf your neighbor?
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Learned Mother of Zion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:52:40pm |
re: #442 Charles
That's probably referrer spam (the stupidest form of spam), not a hotlink. Not much you can do about it...
I get referrer spam, but this particular link seems to be hotlinking a graphic.
I checked my image server requests and compared the graphic files requested, and found some old Photoshop spoofs I made years ago (and posted on Photoshop blogs like Fark) are being requested. I couldn't tell exactly which files, but by process of elimination identified the most likely culprits, and removed them from my server.
That may not stop the hotlinking, especially if it's on some blog, but at least they will get a red "x" not a file that is hosted on my server.
A while ago, I found out that some asshole on Stormfront was hotlinking one of my graphics for an avatar, and I pwn3d him with this swap.
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:52:42pm |
re: #450 FurryOldGuyJeans
Yeah, Starship Troopers sure was an abortion and a half.
And they made two sequels. I kid you not.
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ggt Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:52:43pm |
re: #459 FurryOldGuyJeans
I love older movies that actually have plots and acting in them. Action films, especially with CGI up the wazoo, bore me to tears.
I was forced to sit thru Watchmen with my kid on IMAX. Is it just me or are more and more movies using what I call the "video game technique". Shifting from scene-to-scene without and apparent connection between them?
The viewer is left to figure out why and how the characters went from one location to another half-way across the globe and acquired thousands of dollars worth of equipment and cool new clothes?
It reminds me of the one episode of Power Rangers I watched while babysitting a neighbor kid years ago.
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ggt Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:54:03pm |
re: #461 ggt
I thought their rebuttal was good. Anyone who is really considering the whacko approach will at least be referred to sources for good information.
Being a vegetarian and having practiced yoga for over a decade, I get exposed to a lot of this type of info and people. What suprises me is the people that send me email sometimes. They aren't vegan/yoga types.
I don't know what happened there. My apologizes to the Lizard to whom I was trying to reply. I think I'll only make it worse if I try to fix it.
sorry
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reine.de.tout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:54:40pm |
re: #472 Alouette
. . .
A while ago, I found out that some asshole on Stormfront was hotlinking one of my graphics for an avatar, and I pwn3d him with this swap.
heh-heh.
nice.
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eon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:54:50pm |
re: #419 FurryOldGuyJeans
I am semi-surprised no one has mentioned Metropolis.
Same here. Not to mention Things to Come, Destination Moon, the Quatermass films, and the lesser-known but great Kronos and The Monolith Monsters.
All of the picks I've seen were good, if not great. (I must admit being disappointed by both the movie and TV versions of Logan's Run, being a fan of the original novel and its sequels.) My vote for one of the more recent genuinely great, and occasionally downright intentionally hilarious, science fantasy films is Luc Besson's The Fifth Element; I admit you really have to be a Metal Hurlant/ Heavy Metal (magazine, not music) fan to appreciate it.
cheers
eon
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:55:10pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:55:35pm |
re: #471 reine.de.tout
Yup, It took a few calls. Most charities I contacted wanted me to persuade her to contact them. I finally found someone who was willing to contact her with getting me involved. They got to work really quick too. Workmen started showing up about 2-3 week later.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:55:37pm |
re: #419 FurryOldGuyJeans
I am semi-surprised no one has mentioned Metropolis.
You are absolutely right.
If you want to go way back and talk about what set standards, you must include the old serials for Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers also.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:55:49pm |
re: #470 DEZes
If memory serves, it was filmed in 1929.
1927. Part of the great German Expressionist movement in films at the time. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920) is a good example, also.
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jamgarr Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:56:29pm |
re: #474 ggt
I was forced to sit thru Watchmen with my kid on IMAX. Is it just me or are more and more movies using what I call the "video game technique". Shifting from scene-to-scene without and apparent connection between them?
The viewer is left to figure out why and how the characters went from one location to another half-way across the globe and acquired thousands of dollars worth of equipment and cool new clothes?
It reminds me of the one episode of Power Rangers I watched while babysitting a neighbor kid years ago.
One thing I've noticed (Transformers is a good example) is that the special effects are speeded up. I have a hard time distinguishing one CG thing from another when it's that fast. The kids with all their video game experience - not so much.
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reine.de.tout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:56:32pm |
re: #481 Killgore Trout
Yup, It took a few calls. Most charities I contacted wanted me to persuade her to contact them. I finally found someone who was willing to contact her with getting me involved. They got to work really quick too. Workmen started showing up about 2-3 week later.
Good for you, Killgore.
Well done.
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Scion9 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:56:34pm |
re: #429 callahan23
I love everything about Dick. Not so much when people overhear me say that not knowing I'm talking about an author though...
I had heard about a year back they were adapting The Man in the High Castle, but haven't seen anything materialize.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:56:45pm |
re: #483 FurryOldGuyJeans
1927. Part of the great German Expressionist movement in films at the time. The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari (1920) is a good example, also.
My memory needs an upgrade. ;)
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:56:52pm |
re: #479 eon
Same here. Not to mention Things to Come, Destination Moon, the Quatermass films, and the lesser-known but great Kronos and The Monolith Monsters.
All of the picks I've seen were good, if not great. (I must admit being disappointed by both the movie and TV versions of Logan's Run, being a fan of the original novel and its sequels.) My vote for one of the more recent genuinely great, and occasionally downright intentionally hilarious, science fantasy films is Luc Besson's The Fifth Element; I admit you really have to be a Metal Hurlant/ Heavy Metal (magazine, not music) fan to appreciate it.
cheers
eon
I lived 5th element and I learned to draw as a boy from Heavy Metal magazine...
And because I must now say it...
IT'S MY LOCH NAR!!!
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jamgarr Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:57:05pm |
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Sharmuta Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:57:12pm |
re: #481 Killgore Trout
Yup, It took a few calls. Most charities I contacted wanted me to persuade her to contact them. I finally found someone who was willing to contact her with getting me involved. They got to work really quick too. Workmen started showing up about 2-3 week later.
I know you took a lot of shit because you didn't want to get involved, but you actually did get involved by finding a program to help her. That's more than a lot of people do for their neighbors. Bless you, Hon.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:57:26pm |
re: #481 Killgore Trout
Yup, It took a few calls. Most charities I contacted wanted me to persuade her to contact them. I finally found someone who was willing to contact her with getting me involved. They got to work really quick too. Workmen started showing up about 2-3 week later.
a fine story...you get a short reprieve
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:57:35pm |
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ggt Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:57:50pm |
re: #486 Scion9
I love everything about Dick. Not so much when people overhear me say that not knowing I'm talking about an author though...
I had heard about a year back they were adapting The Man in the High Castle, but haven't seen anything materialize.
I like dick.
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jamgarr Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:57:56pm |
re: #477 BlueRoses
How do you know how many updings you have?
Sorry - don't know you and that may have been over the line
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:58:18pm |
re: #491 albusteve
a fine story...you get a short reprieve
How do you know the size of his repieve? Is he posting sans pants again?
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:59:10pm |
re: #479 eon
Same here. Not to mention Things to Come, Destination Moon, the Quatermass films, and the lesser-known but great Kronos and The Monolith Monsters.
All of the picks I've seen were good, if not great. (I must admit being disappointed by both the movie and TV versions of Logan's Run, being a fan of the original novel and its sequels.) My vote for one of the more recent genuinely great, and occasionally downright intentionally hilarious, science fantasy films is Luc Besson's The Fifth Element; I admit you really have to be a Metal Hurlant/ Heavy Metal (magazine, not music) fan to appreciate it.
cheers
eon
Maybe it was the print they had for the DVD I have, but Things to Come was bad, bad, bad, bad, B. A. D. As in HORRIBLE.
Just my IMNHO. ;)
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wrenchwench Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:59:29pm |
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BlueRoses Tue, Aug 4, 2009 4:59:48pm |
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mksmash Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:00:12pm |
re: #15 Dianna
I miss Barnabas Collins.
I remember that! After you missed him he pulled the arrow out and killed you.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:00:17pm |
re: #474 ggt
I was forced to sit thru Watchmen with my kid on IMAX. Is it just me or are more and more movies using what I call the "video game technique". Shifting from scene-to-scene without and apparent connection between them?
The viewer is left to figure out why and how the characters went from one location to another half-way across the globe and acquired thousands of dollars worth of equipment and cool new clothes?
It reminds me of the one episode of Power Rangers I watched while babysitting a neighbor kid years ago.
Watchman is a very special case. I think that if you loved the comic, you will love the movie, and if you hadn't read the comic, the movie would not make as much sense. The scenes in it actually follow frames from the comic very closely in many places.
There were of course changes from the graphic novel, however, the people who made the movie set out to make the graphic novel into a movie and stay loyal to it.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:00:48pm |
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:00:50pm |
re: #500 formercorpsman
I'm out. Have a good night.
oh great. Now the pressures on me to "have a good night". What if i'm not up to having a good night, or i was planning on having a shitty one? What then? Do I dissapoint FORMER? Do I stay true to myself?
GGGAAAHHH!!!
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ArmyWife Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:00:51pm |
Evening crew! I'm late, and it's been stated, but the voice was GREAT. The look? Not so much.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:01:04pm |
re: #497 buzzsawmonkey
Camera angles actually suffered terribly when sound came in. The camera unfettered by primitive sound technology could go anywhere, and did--the camerawork in a film like Sunrise is amazing.
Sound ended up creating extremely stagebound films. One of the first sound films to break that mold was Rouben Mamoulian's Applause, which made a lot of use of montage--and Helen Morgan is excellent in it too.
It just took a few decades for the technology to improve enough to allow the camera work good cinematographers employ.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:01:14pm |
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:01:35pm |
re: #481 Killgore Trout
heh ... a couple of years ago, I was still new here, I paid you a compliment after you'd apologized to someone. That impression has solidified.
/just sayin' ... :D
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:02:19pm |
re: #464 tradewind
Did you catch the premier of that miniseries ' Defying Gravity '?
No Ididn't. I haven't had much cahnce to watch TV lately. I spend all of my time either in the lab, with my lizard queen or writing papers, or writing here.
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Silvergirl Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:02:55pm |
re: #500 formercorpsman
I'm out. Have a good night.
Same here. I'm going to try to make it back to the overnight thread.
Thanks for the fun, one and all!
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sattv4u2 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:03:23pm |
re: #513 LudwigVanQuixote
No Ididn't. I haven't had much cahnce to watch TV lately. I spend all of my time either in the lab, with my lizard queen or writing papers, or writing here.
I once wrote a paper
It never wrote back
Scarred me deeply!
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ArmyWife Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:03:34pm |
re: #512 pre-Boomer Marine brat
What is this? Suck up to KT day? Sheessshhh.
///he is a good person, even when we disagree. Which is a lot. ;)
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BlueCanuck Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:03:43pm |
re: #506 Fenway_Nation
What if we showed up pants-less?
Surfer Doc? Is that you?
/LNDT running gag...
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ggt Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:04:22pm |
Mold Spores are very high for my area right now. I found this nifty site for finding out allergen levels for any area of the country.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:05:02pm |
re: #519 ggt
Mold Spores are very high for my area right now. I found this nifty site for finding out allergen levels for any area of the country.
Mmmm, lunch! ;)
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:05:43pm |
re: #517 ArmyWife
What is this? Suck up to KT day? Sheessshhh.
///he is a good person, even when we disagree. Which is a lot. ;)
we are all on the same path
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wrenchwench Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:05:48pm |
re: #513 LudwigVanQuixote
No Ididn't. I haven't had much cahnce to watch TV lately. I spend all of my time either in the lab, with my lizard queen or writing papers, or writing here.
Busy guy. Don't worry about your typing. Might cut into your posting time. Seriously. Sounds like you have well-ordered priorities.
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:05:56pm |
re: #517 ArmyWife
What is this? Suck up to KT day? Sheessshhh.
///he is a good person, even when we disagree. Which is a lot. ;)
:D ... not sucking up ... he got a wee bit frosted way back then ... maybe I'm just giving him a friendly (and, in this thread's context) an admiring tweak.
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itellu3times Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:06:28pm |
re: #474 ggt
I was forced to sit thru Watchmen with my kid on IMAX. Is it just me or are more and more movies using what I call the "video game technique". Shifting from scene-to-scene without and apparent connection between them?
Yes.
I call it "attention deficit cinema".
For extra credit, hold the scenes just a little too briefly to let the viewer focus on, or even locate, the main character.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:07:28pm |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:07:28pm |
Any lizards have an opinion about Protocols of Zion?
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:07:35pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:07:35pm |
Crazy Pam got a gig writing for News Max. Her first article...
Obama Birth Certificate Issue Causing Needless Distractions
There might be something more sinister at work here, both specifically in the release of the spurious Kenya birth certificate and generally in the persistence of this issue. Perhaps all the documentation on Obama's birth certificate and citizenship is in order.
...
In what could be considered a psyop on the American people, the birth certificate issue is being used to smear the Republicans in general as "birthers," conspiracy nuts who have given themselves over to right-wing nuttery. Any mention of this issue inspires in many the same revulsion as being diagnosed with the clap did in the '50s. And the arrogance and fear on the right of being tainted by this issue has created such dissension and infighting that we're eating our young and the left is positively giddy.We, the American people, are not the enemy here, we are not the guilty party. The media should stop blaming the victim. Remember: conservatives are not responsible for the birth certificate issue at all.
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ArmyWife Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:08:07pm |
re: #523 pre-Boomer Marine brat
I'm really teasing. I like KT! He is one of my favorites here. But don't tell him.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:08:52pm |
re: #514 buzzsawmonkey
I believe "Watchmen" laid the groundwork--unwittingly--for the Troofer movement. Note that there is an intentional disaster in the movie that kills millions in New York for the purpose of "bringing the society together"; it would not surprise me if the young geeks who spawned Trooferism were familiar with the comic, and were all too ready to believe that life had mirrored art.
I think that's unfair...
1) People were going on about all manner of conspiracies like that since long before Watchman. How many Lusitania "troofers" were there for instance.
2) Troofers came out before the movie did. The sort of person who read Watchmen back in the late eighties was the sort of person to be hip to alternative comics, well educated and frankly not the sort to become a troofer.
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itellu3times Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:08:53pm |
re: #464 tradewind
Did you catch the premier of that miniseries ' Defying Gravity '?
Saw the first few minutes and it seemed a little slow getting going ... did you see any more?
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:09:58pm |
re: #529 Killgore Trout
Crazy Pam got a gig writing for News Max. Her first article...
Obama Birth Certificate Issue Causing Needless Distractions
gosh...she didn't define the issue!...what's the issue again?...so many fucking issues
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Irish Rose Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:10:54pm |
We, the American people, are not the enemy here, we are not the guilty party. The media should stop blaming the victim. Remember: conservatives are not responsible for the birth certificate issue at all.
Put down the crack pipe, Pamela.
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ArmyWife Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:10:54pm |
re: #529 Killgore Trout
It's BRILLIANT. It there a little link you click on at the end of the bold part for ominous music?
Seriously, what have I done wrong that she gets writing gigs and TV gigs? Wait, I think I recall waaayyy back putting my finger on it, having it confirmed and then needing brain bleach.
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ggt Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:11:08pm |
re: #535 albusteve
gosh...she didn't define the issue!...what's the issue again?...so many fucking issues
I'm tired of f@cking issues. I want oreos.
Is Charles going to open the sekret bunker tonight?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:11:12pm |
re: #531 Sharmuta
She fails to mention her theories that Obama's father was really Malcolm X. She was spearheading the Nirth Cert thing and now she's blaming the left for it. I wonder if she's still selling those Nirth Certifikit t-shirts.
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Noam Sayin' Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:11:23pm |
re: #498 Killgore Trout
You've been making a lot of typos that I've never seen you do before.
Just sayin'
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wrenchwench Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:11:26pm |
re: #529 Killgore Trout
Any mention of this issue inspires in many the same revulsion as being diagnosed with the clap did in the '50s.
I'll bet that's first hand knowledge.
(ok, that's ruder than using the "f" word. But I'm ok with that.)
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:12:02pm |
re: #529 Killgore Trout
Crazy Pam got a gig writing for News Max. Her first article...
Obama Birth Certificate Issue Causing Needless Distractions
"It was a dark and stormy night ..."
/with sincerest regret to Schultz and Snoopy
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Irish Rose Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:12:20pm |
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ilzito guacamolito Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:12:28pm |
'Clunker' Debunker
Gah! More money stolen or printed and wasted.
Honoring An America-Hater
The US and Israel have so very much to fear from this Administration.
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Scion9 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:12:37pm |
re: #514 buzzsawmonkey
That may be true in that scenario, but I'm sure Moore got the basic idea for his story from the Reichstag Fire, which is still pretty well known 'false flag' operation even among the pop culture saturated youth.
Also, in the graphic novel, Ozymandias genetically engineers a Lovecraftian tentacled monster. The world powers believe it is an alien and unite against the new threat. There is no bomb.
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ggt Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:13:00pm |
re: #524 itellu3times
Yes.
I call it "attention deficit cinema".
For extra credit, hold the scenes just a little too briefly to let the viewer focus on, or even locate, the main character.
I like "attention deficit cinema". Good one!
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Irish Rose Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:13:20pm |
re: #539 Killgore Trout
She fails to mention her theories that Obama's father was really Malcolm X. She was spearheading the Nirth Cert thing and now she's blaming the left for it. I wonder if she's still selling those Nirth Certifikit t-shirts.
She's a victim, can't you see?
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:13:20pm |
re: #540 Noam Sayin'
I haven't even started drinking yet. Ooh, it's 5! Beer time!
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Sharmuta Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:13:28pm |
re: #539 Killgore Trout
She fails to mention her theories that Obama's father was really Malcolm X. She was spearheading the Nirth Cert thing and now she's blaming the left for it. I wonder if she's still selling those Nirth Certifikit t-shirts.
She's spread the nonsense that the birth announcements were planted by the CIA! And now she's pinning this on the msm. Shameless!
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Dancing along the light of day Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:13:58pm |
re: #541 wrenchwench
LOL!
Almost spewed my soda!
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:14:05pm |
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Killgore Trout Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:14:13pm |
re: #550 Sharmuta
Hmmm...I wonder if she's scrubbed her archive.
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ArmyWife Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:14:57pm |
re: #550 Sharmuta
NO way. Seriously? Planted 48 years ago? In that case, let me stand in awe of the organization and collaboration.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:15:02pm |
re: #553 Killgore Trout
Hmmm...I wonder if she's scrubbed her archive.
Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
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jcm Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:15:09pm |
re: #549 Killgore Trout
I haven't even started drinking yet. Ooh, it's 5! Beer time!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:15:11pm |
re: #550 Sharmuta
She's spread the nonsense that the birth announcements were planted by the CIA! And now she's pinning this on the msm. Shameless!
Both sides love to blame the other for the problems of their own creation.
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Sharmuta Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:15:13pm |
re: #553 Killgore Trout
Hmmm...I wonder if she's scrubbed her archive.
Of her detailed analysis that the released BC is a forgery? Doubtful.
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David Simon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:15:48pm |
The great blue state of Illinois is doing its part to reflate the housing bubble:
The HOME START Tax Credit Advance Loan helps first time homebuyers take advantage of the $8,000 federal tax credit refund in advance to use as a down payment on their first home. However, the maximum loan amount under the HOME START Tax Credit Advance Loan program is 3.5 percent of the purchase price up to a maximum of $6,000.
Within the initial period, the homebuyer will file their tax return requesting the federal tax credit. This tax credit can be used to repay the tax advance loan. If the loan is not repaid by June 30, 2010, then the remaining loan amount becomes a ten year amortizing loan at 0.5% above the rate on the Home Start 30 Year Fixed Rate Loan.
In other words, the buyer can blow the six grand instead of using it to pay back his "assistance" loan -- and, of course, be further in debt.
[Link: www.ihda.org...]
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Scion9 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:16:33pm |
re: #547 buzzsawmonkey
I have no idea what "troof" theories might have attended the sinking of the Lusitania.
That the Lusitania was sunk by the Allies in order to ramp up hatred of the Germans in the USA. Likewise, FDR knew about Pearl Harbor ahead of time and did nothing about it.
Both very old 'false flag' conspiracy theories that follow the mold of the 9/11 Truth movement.
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snowcrash Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:16:35pm |
re: #538 ggt
I'm tired of f@cking issues. I want oreos.
Is Charles going to open the sekret bunker tonight?
I want one of those lemon square bar things with powdered sugar on it. and coffee.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:17:41pm |
re: #562 jcm
How much $$$ in ammo does that quad .50 burn a second?
LOL!
I hate to think about it, but it sure looks like fun.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:17:43pm |
re: #562 jcm
How much $$$ in ammo does that quad .50 burn a second?
LOL!
(rich) boyz and their toyz...wish I was there
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David Simon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:17:45pm |
re: #529 Killgore Trout
Crazy Pam got a gig writing for News Max.
I'd rather clean toilets for a living than have to be her editor.
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eon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:18:34pm |
re: #431 LudwigVanQuixote
All those you listed are on my Genuinely Sucks list. Which also includes;
Quintet (1974) (Paul Newman; if you haven't seen it, consider yourself lucky)
12 to the Moon (1959) (doesn't just violate the laws of physics, but ignores them completely; ditto for the laws of coherent storytelling)
A.I; Artificial Intelligence (2002) (Brain Aldiss should have smacked Spielberg for that one)
Minority Report (2003) (PKD should haunt Tom Cruise forever)
The Matrix and both of its sequels (2001-2005) (the Wachowski brothers need to study a few books on writing, and especially L. Sprague deCamp's Science Fiction Handbook)
And of course the "remake" of the Day The Earth Stood Still ( A bad three-way cross between The Man Who Fell to Earth, Independence Day, and The Matrix- is there any way to get Keanu Reeves out of the acting business?)
I know Sturgeon's Law states that 98% of everything is crap, but some of it is unnecessarily pungent.
cheers
eon
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ArmyWife Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:18:56pm |
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:19:32pm |
re: #566 DEZes
I hate to think about it, but it sure looks like fun.
take that!...you commie watermellon!
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:20:21pm |
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:20:26pm |
re: #571 ArmyWife
This is not comforting.
AP sources: Russian subs patrolling off East Coast
via drudge
trolling for beer...it's the new chic
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BlueRoses Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:21:11pm |
re: #527 FurryOldGuyJeans
Yeah run it thru a shredder and use it to line the hamster cage.
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eon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:21:53pm |
re: #488 LudwigVanQuixote
I lived 5th element and I learned to draw as a boy from Heavy Metal magazine...
And because I must now say it...
IT'S MY LOCH NAR!!!
And you are welcome to it. Glowing green balls are automatically considered grounds for Red Alert status in my universe.
/especially if they talk
cheers
eon
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pre-Boomer Marine brat Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:22:44pm |
out for the night.
Everyone have a good evening.
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:22:55pm |
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BlueRoses Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:22:58pm |
re: #565 ArmyWife
That sounds good. Or key lime pie.
Oh yeah. I gots me some sitting on the kitchen counter for later.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:22:58pm |
re: #578 snowcrash
Not The Matrix. eon please! LOL
I liked the Matrix, 2 and 3, not even on my radar.
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jcm Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:23:16pm |
re: #571 ArmyWife
This is not comforting.
AP sources: Russian subs patrolling off East Coast
via drudge
They'll have trailers. SOSUS will pick them up in the GIUK gap, and they'll pick up a friend to keep an eye on 'em, same old game. They never were in our league.
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callahan23 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:23:31pm |
re: #579 pre-Boomer Marine brat
out for the night.
Everyone have a good evening.
Have a good one.
Love your new avatar.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:23:41pm |
re: #547 buzzsawmonkey
I disagree. Yes, there have always been conspiracy theories, and there always will be--though I have no idea what "troof" theories might have attended the sinking of the Lusitania.
However, the film is not the issue. The comic book has been around for quite some time. You have a far higher estimate of the intelligence of comics devotees than I do, and I think it is a leap to assume that education is a bulwark against conspiracy theorizing.
1. False flag conspiracies have been with us for some time. There were plenty of pro-German Lusitania troofers back in 1917. There were isolationist U.S.S. Maine troofers a generation before. The fact is that whenever a national tragedy - that leads to conflict arises, you will always have some fringe element who assumes it was a set up.
2. As to comics people, it is not that I have faith in comics people, but rather, an understanding of the sorts of people who would have been drawn to something like Watchmen back in the day. And that really is the point, until the movie came out, Watchmen was one of those things for "people in the know." It is not at all your standard Spiderman kind of stuff. It came along with things like Dark Knight Returns and V for Vendetta, and it appealed to the sorts of angry, intelligent adolescents and college kids who liked gritty social commentary and adult themes (adult themes meaning ideas for adults, as opposed to sexual themes, though those were certainly there too). Straight up, this was something for a certain set of angry nerds (like I was). I am saying that the crowd who would be into that is very unlikely to become a troofer. If you find someone from that crowd who did, it is the exception and not the rule.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:24:34pm |
re: #577 eon
And you are welcome to it. Glowing green balls are automatically considered grounds for Red Alert status in my universe.
/especially if they talk
cheers
eon
or at least a trip to the doctor... :)
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ggt Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:25:49pm |
re: #564 snowcrash
I want one of those lemon square bar things with powdered sugar on it. and coffee.
Well, I'm going to make a fresh pot right now, but I can't bring it in until Charles unlocks the doors.
We have lemon squares too?
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ggt Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:26:59pm |
re: #570 eon
All those you listed are on my Genuinely Sucks list. Which also includes;
Quintet (1974) (Paul Newman; if you haven't seen it, consider yourself lucky)
12 to the Moon (1959) (doesn't just violate the laws of physics, but ignores them completely; ditto for the laws of coherent storytelling)
A.I; Artificial Intelligence (2002) (Brain Aldiss should have smacked Spielberg for that one)
Minority Report (2003) (PKD should haunt Tom Cruise forever)
The Matrix and both of its sequels (2001-2005) (the Wachowski brothers need to study a few books on writing, and especially L. Sprague deCamp's Science Fiction Handbook)
And of course the "remake" of the Day The Earth Stood Still ( A bad three-way cross between The Man Who Fell to Earth, Independence Day, and The Matrix- is there any way to get Keanu Reeves out of the acting business?)
I know Sturgeon's Law states that 98% of everything is crap, but some of it is unnecessarily pungent.
cheers
eon
There was absolutely no reason to create, edit, produce and market A.I.
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esch Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:27:25pm |
re: #431 LudwigVanQuixote
OK WORST sci fi movies you ever had the misfortune of seeing...
For me it was Mission to Mars which was touted as being advised by NASA and presented itself as something that would be hard sf. It delivered gravity defying m&m DNA strands that the characters identified as human, by eye, and with less than 50 base pairs to look at. It delivered momentum NOT being conserved. It delivered incorrect orbital mechanics. It delivered a truly mind numbingly bad script and mind numbingly bad acting - and it wrapped up with a dopey New Agey Hollywood ending. When I saw it in the theatre, people claped at one of the tear jerk moments when one of the astronauts died. Ironically, he could have been saved if only momentum were conserved in space...
My second on the list is The Core. It is equally mind numbingly stupid, however, there is a certain goofiness to it that allows me to laugh at it more than hate it.
My third most hated Sci Fi is Starship Troopers for taking one of the best sci fi books ever written and turing it into a farce with a message completely antithetical to the original story. The book was one of the best discussions of the philosophy and need for a military I have ever seen. Of course Verhoven hates all things military and had to make a sort of Eurotrash left wing take on it - in addition to completely taking away from the more interesting sci fi aspects of the novel by making the military stupid and under equipped.
Robot holocaust.
So far as ST goes:
1. Clancy Brown
2. Dina Meyer
3. The 'shower scene'
made up for quite a bit of the stinkiness of ST for me.
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yochanan Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:27:26pm |
re: #563 Scion9
crazy isn't a new thing, remember the elders of the protacals of zion is very old.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:27:38pm |
re: #580 albusteve
I miss R. Lee...
He's still around. He has a new show called "Lock and Load". Fairly good.
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Scion9 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:27:50pm |
re: #560 buzzsawmonkey
Yeah. I understand what you are saying, and The Watchmen is probably the most read work in its format/genre ever so it's a plausible inspiration. I'm just saying that the 9/11 Truth movement isn't exactly new or unique. We have a whole subculture in the US that has a hard-on for conspiracy theory and revisionist history.
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snowcrash Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:28:33pm |
re: #582 DEZes
Always watch The Matrix when it is on TV. Have seen it about 10 times. Same with Hunt forRe d October. lol Both don't get old. Go figure.
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ggt Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:28:58pm |
bbiab --maybe Charles will have opened the bunker by then.
I hope I remember the passcode, Is it still Robert Heinlein's birthday?
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ArmyWife Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:29:13pm |
re: #575 albusteve
Trolling for something! Take that, Swim Suit Obama!
[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:29:48pm |
re: #583 jcm
They'll have trailers. SOSUS will pick them up in the GIUK gap, and they'll pick up a friend to keep an eye on 'em, same old game. They never were in our league.
That's not what scares me. Their Oscar-class SSGN carries quite a lot of of firepower, and the fact that Putin is waving that firepower in our face is unsettling.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:29:53pm |
re: #597 snowcrash
Always watch The Matrix when it is on TV. Have seen it about 10 times. Same with Hunt forRe d October. lol Both don't get old. Go figure.
Both are in my collection.
Wolverines. ;)
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:30:04pm |
re: #593 Dark_Falcon
He's still around. He has a new show called "Lock and Load". Fairly good.
am waiting to see it...Mail Call was a classic hoot...grew his own water mellon commie targets...lots of juicy stuff there
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wrenchwench Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:31:26pm |
Well, I'm sorry to miss the lemon squares, but I gotta go now. Later, lizards!
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:31:48pm |
re: #603 wrenchwench
Well, I'm sorry to miss the lemon squares, but I gotta go now. Later, lizards!
Have a good one.
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eon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:32:31pm |
re: #527 FurryOldGuyJeans
Any lizards have an opinion about Protocols of Zion?
It was a hoax perpetrated by a Czarist official hoping to curry favor with Czar Alexander III of Russia, by "proving" that a vast conspiracy was behind the assassination of his father, Alexander II, in 1881. Not an "opinion"- historical fact.
Just like the fact that it has been used since then as the "justification" for everything from the Holocaust to Iran's nuclear ambitions. It's the political equivalent of the "alien abduction" theory; an excuse for people to blame their own shortcomings on outside forces. Which probably explains its continued popularity in circles full of people with many self-inflicted problems who are engaged in a lifelong search for scapegoats.
Of course, no one is going around talking about nuking little grey guys or "driving them into the sea", either. That treatment is earmarked for real people, who actually exist, whose existence offends other people who apparently have a serious problem with taking responsibility for their own situations.
/IOW, the "believers" in the "Protocols" need to grow up
cheers
eon
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callahan23 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:32:45pm |
re: #603 wrenchwench
Well, I'm sorry to miss the lemon squares, but I gotta go now. Later, lizards!
G'night. {wrenchwench}
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jcm Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:34:13pm |
re: #600 Dark_Falcon
That's not what scares me. Their Oscar-class SSGN carries quite a lot of of firepower, and the fact that Putin is waving that firepower in our face is unsettling.
SSGN in close, yep, even boomers, with depressed trajectories. That's why they're using SSNs to trail down the coast, not rattle us too hard.
Bombers are probing again, now the sub games, the bad old days seem to be coming back.
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jcm Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:35:11pm |
re: #605 eon
It was a hoax perpetrated by a Czarist official hoping to curry favor with Czar Alexander III of Russia, by "proving" that a vast conspiracy was behind the assassination of his father, Alexander II, in 1881. Not an "opinion"- historical fact.
Just like the fact that it has been used since then as the "justification" for everything from the Holocaust to Iran's nuclear ambitions. It's the political equivalent of the "alien abduction" theory; an excuse for people to blame their own shortcomings on outside forces. Which probably explains its continued popularity in circles full of people with many self-inflicted problems who are engaged in a lifelong search for scapegoats.
Of course, no one is going around talking about nuking little grey guys or "driving them into the sea", either. That treatment is earmarked for real people, who actually exist, whose existence offends other people who apparently have a serious problem with taking responsibility for their own situations.
/IOW, the "believers" in the "Protocols" need to grow up
cheers
eon
*sigh*
Move Protocols from the non-fiction shelf to the fiction shelf...
///
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rumcrook Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:35:13pm |
O/T
the fact that leftard causes have been orchestrated by people who are not grasss roots and crowds populated by people who dont work or hold jobs unless you count professionally protesting, has remained a "secret" in the media, and as far as I know has never been reported by the msm is infuriating.
double that anger now that the first time this is reported it is against truelly normal and average working americans who are waking up to the alarming "change" about to rip down our country and showing up to demand answers from the "ruling class at townhall meetings
a screen shot of msnbc shows a disturbing bias showing just how low they have sunk, and what whores they have become
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:35:26pm |
re: #600 Dark_Falcon
The Russians play their games. We play ours (or so we hope). But this time, the Russians are doing missile drills while listening to the sound of our rock n' roll.
Then again, not only do we have the 688i's running in the Russian baffles, we've got a couple of Virginia class ships out there too.
And keep in mind that our forces have plenty of experience firing our weapons systems in real combat situations - whether it was the first Desert Storm or in support of Iraqi Freedom and thereafter. Nothing quite serves to drill technique as combat.
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Scion9 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:37:34pm |
re: #605 eon
His link is to a documentary about the rise of antisemitism in the US after 9/11, and how it is tied to Trooferism. I haven't seen it, but will check it out when I get the chance.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:37:53pm |
re: #607 jcm
SSGN in close, yep, even boomers, with depressed trajectories. That's why they're using SSNs to trail down the coast, not rattle us too hard.
Bombers are probing again, now the sub games, the bad old days seem to be coming back.
Yep, Putin sees the posturing as a way to rebuild Russia. The only good news is however f'd up the situation is, we have the best navy in the world bar none.
I'd take a Virginia or a Seawolf up against one of their bad boys, any day.
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callahan23 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:38:13pm |
re: #605 eon
It was a hoax perpetrated by a Czarist official hoping to curry favor with Czar Alexander III of Russia, by "proving" that a vast conspiracy was behind the assassination of his father, Alexander II, in 1881. Not an "opinion"- historical fact.
Just like the fact that it has been used since then as the "justification" for everything from the Holocaust to Iran's nuclear ambitions. It's the political equivalent of the "alien abduction" theory; an excuse for people to blame their own shortcomings on outside forces. Which probably explains its continued popularity in circles full of people with many self-inflicted problems who are engaged in a lifelong search for scapegoats.
Of course, no one is going around talking about nuking little grey guys or "driving them into the sea", either. That treatment is earmarked for real people, who actually exist, whose existence offends other people who apparently have a serious problem with taking responsibility for their own situations.
/IOW, the "believers" in the "Protocols" need to grow up
cheers
eon
Plus that it was originally :
The original source has been identified as an 1864 book by Maurice Joly entitled 'The Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu', which was written as a satirical attack against the ambitions and methods of French Emperor Napoleon III.
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Shug Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:38:28pm |
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:38:34pm |
re: #610 lawhawk
The Russians play their games. We play ours (or so we hope). But this time, the Russians are doing missile drills while listening to the sound of our rock n' roll.
Then again, not only do we have the 688i's running in the Russian baffles, we've got a couple of Virginia class ships out there too.
And keep in mind that our forces have plenty of experience firing our weapons systems in real combat situations - whether it was the first Desert Storm or in support of Iraqi Freedom and thereafter. Nothing quite serves to drill technique as combat.
the Russians are fucked bigtime if they want to play underwater...debris
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Salamantis Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:38:35pm |
re: #514 buzzsawmonkey
I believe "Watchmen" laid the groundwork--unwittingly--for the Troofer movement. Note that there is an intentional disaster in the movie that kills millions in New York for the purpose of "bringing the society together"; it would not surprise me if the young geeks who spawned Trooferism were familiar with the comic, and were all too ready to believe that life had mirrored art.
I think that we've had this discussion before, Buzz. I'm of the opinion that the media pump that primed the popular acceptance of Trooferism was the television work of Chris Carter, particularly the series The X Files and Millennium. Any and all evil that occurred in them was unerringly portrayed as a result of shadowy and malevolent government conspiracies.
It long predates the Watchmen movie. And the Watchmen graphic novel only influenced the comic geeks who read it. Most likely including Chris Carter.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:39:11pm |
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Learned Mother of Zion Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:39:30pm |
re: #563 Scion9
That the Lusitania was sunk by the Allies in order to ramp up hatred of the Germans in the USA. Likewise, FDR knew about Pearl Harbor ahead of time and did nothing about it.
Both very old 'false flag' conspiracy theories that follow the mold of the 9/11 Truth movement.
Remember the Maine conspiracy theory
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Shug Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:39:49pm |
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jamgarr Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:40:03pm |
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:41:21pm |
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lawhawk Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:41:21pm |
Oh, and if we thought that Hizbullah had given up the ghost of jihad against Israel, you'd be wrong.
The current stability in the North is "in danger," Deputy Northern Command chief Brig.-Gen. Alon Friedman was quoted by the Times as saying Tuesday, adding that the peace could "explode at any minute."Meanwhile, surveillance footage obtained by the British newspaper shows Hizbullah fighters trying to salvage rockets and other munitions from the suspected arms cache that exploded last month in southern Lebanon.
The video shows rockets and other munitions being retrieved from the bombed site, and a truck moving rockets from the apparent weapons depot. It then shows Hizbullah operatives emerging from an underground bunker.
Israel's ambassador to the UN, Gabriela Shalev, told the Security Council last week that the July 14 explosions that exposed the apparent Hizbullah arms cache demonstrated a "volatile reality" and reflected the threat posed by Iran throughout the Middle East.
Hizbullah is believed to have stockpiled up to 40,000 rockets, and Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon told the Times that "Hizbullah has not only replaced the munitions but upgraded their missiles. They are bragging now that they can hit Tel Aviv."
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jcm Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:41:34pm |
re: #614 LudwigVanQuixote
Yep, Putin sees the posturing as a way to rebuild Russia. The only good news is however f'd up the situation is, we have the best navy in the world bar none.
I'd take a Virginia or a Seawolf up against one of their bad boys, any day.
They still can't play with the Los Angeles, up against those it's not even close.
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DEZes Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:43:38pm |
Well Lizards, its time for me to go.
Thanks for keeping me company.
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Shug Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:43:43pm |
re: #623 albusteve
Shugs Bunker Buster...
[Link: www.woodsballgear.com...]
I can get it up and down from the ball washer
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albusteve Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:45:25pm |
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kansas Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:45:49pm |
re: #598 ggt
bbiab --maybe Charles will have opened the bunker by then.
I hope I remember the passcode, Is it still Robert Heinlein's birthday?
My home town is where Heinlein was born. Went by a sign pointing towards his birthplace my whole life. Boring town. Apparently he needed something to do.
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:48:01pm |
I apologize for back tracking to bad sci - fi, but, I must now list the so bad it's good variety... The movies that work well if you are at home with a bunch of buddies and mildly buzzed - and you make fun of them... All of these movies are chosen for a certain brain melt factor that causes you to feel both punchy and a little mentally violated.
Le bad cinema...
1. Battlefield Earth... John Travolta is a really, really mean alien super capitalist. $cientology galore!
2. Manos the Hands of Fate... yes MST3K did it up well, but, do you have the courage to see the original in all of it's glory?
3. The Forbidden Zone... this ground breaking movie introduced the "butt-f@ck cage of doom" - no, it's actually in the movie and it is actually called that. As a bonus, it has Herve Velasquez, the midget from Fantasy Island.
I dare you to watch these films...
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:49:54pm |
re: #610 lawhawk
The Russians play their games. We play ours (or so we hope). But this time, the Russians are doing missile drills while listening to the sound of our rock n' roll.
Then again, not only do we have the 688i's running in the Russian baffles, we've got a couple of Virginia class ships out there too.
And keep in mind that our forces have plenty of experience firing our weapons systems in real combat situations - whether it was the first Desert Storm or in support of Iraqi Freedom and thereafter. Nothing quite serves to drill technique as combat.
Agreed. That said, I do worry that the next thing we'll see near our shores would be the Severodvinsk, first of the Yasen class. The scary thing about that one is that it could hammer us conventionally from a stand-off distance. That would give Putin some very useful leverage in a crisis in Georgia or Ukraine.
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snowcrash Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:50:02pm |
re: #633 LudwigVanQuixote
Thanks for all the movie picks and pans.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:51:14pm |
ALL HAIL OCTAVIA!!!
[Link: www.theonion.com...]
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eon Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:54:47pm |
re: #620 Alouette
Remember the Maine conspiracy theory
One of the more recent, and scientifically more plausible, theories about the Bunker A16 explosion is that a short circuit in the electric light system inside the bunker (a problem that was common in warships of that day) may have triggered a dust explosion- a phenomenon that was not recognized at the time, and remained poorly understood until relatively recently (when such explosions destroyed several commercial grain silos in the U.S. in the 1970s and early 1980s, with considerable loss of life).
A dust explosion could easily have detonated the main magazines, as due to a fundamental design flaw, the for'ard coal bunkers shared bulkheads with those magazines. (The concept of "isolation" to avoid such chain-reaction explosions was still twenty years in the future, after the Royal Navy's loss of three battlecruisers at Jutland in 1916.) To be fair, one can hardly fault BuShips for not designing in protection against a possible problem which, at the time, no one knew existed.
cheers
eon
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LudwigVanQuixote Tue, Aug 4, 2009 5:55:35pm |
re: #637 buzzsawmonkey
re: #594 Scion9
re: #618 Salamantis
Just came back to get my hat...
You do make good points (much as it pains me to concede it), and I agree that there are certainly other potential bases for the Troofer movement, not least the rich vein of nuttiness that has always run through the culture.
I do, however, wish it were possible to take a Troofer core sample and find out if there is any detectable Watchmen influence on them.
That would be interesting. I would predict that most Watchman fans are in somewhat technical positions these days - either that or they are the total under-achiever types.
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redneckkahfir Tue, Aug 4, 2009 6:30:47pm |
re: #332 Fenway_Nation
Oh my...this is reassuring.
There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag-AT-whitehouse.gov.
I thought i would send them something i found that was fishy, so I sent them a PDF copy of the health care monstrosity.
maybe we should all do that...
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FamHistoryGuy Tue, Aug 4, 2009 6:47:49pm |
re: #638 eon
Dust explosions were used as sabotage by the OSS in WWII. Shows how to set one up in my copy of the OSS manual.
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Dustoff-507 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 6:50:49pm |
ARE you kidding me. Charles please this is SO old. I don't care and to still beat this dead horse? If Obama had cared to show any of his records, which he seems NOT to!
Like say his education grades. None of this would matter.
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Beller0ph1 Tue, Aug 4, 2009 6:57:02pm |
re: #2 KenJen
He's got the voice down pat.
My wife went, "I can't listen to that guy, turn it off..."
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Kaymad Tue, Aug 4, 2009 7:06:30pm |
eh, I lost interest at the opposite day part, none of it was really that funny.
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zoidberg Tue, Aug 4, 2009 7:50:10pm |
I knew it! He's a Sacha Baron Cohen posing as a Cylon!
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Dr. Shalit Tue, Aug 4, 2009 8:05:37pm |
OK Everyone -
'Nirthers are a Waste of Time and Effort. The President's MOM was a Native Born US Citizen - Case Closed. I oppose Pres. Obama about 80 or more % of the time. In the 2008 Election, my vote was really FOR Sarah Palin more than anything else. Would SHE were the President, rather than Pres. Obama.
That said, GET OVER IT - Barrack H. Obama IS Our President.
Work for "Conservative" Congressional Candidates in 2010, work for an electable candidate in 2012 to defeat him at that time. So long as Our Democracy - (small "D") - is in effect in 2010 and 2012 - I for One believe that our "Mistake" of 2008 will be corrected as were our similar "Mistakes" of 1976 and 1992. I worked for the 1976 "Mistake" - being young and STUPID at the time. By 1992, I knew better. That is all.
-S-
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