The ‘Muslim Demographics’ Hoax

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There’s a reason why I never linked to a popular YouTube video with millions of views titled “Muslim Demographics,” despite having it recommended many times by emailers and commenters: because on first viewing it was clear that the video was an alarmist work of distorted propaganda, sort of an anti-Muslim version of the Loose Change 9/11 conspiracy film. One giveaway: the use of quotes from extreme right wing European websites like Brussels Journal.

The BBC isn’t always wrong, and last Friday they published this crushing rebuttal to the video, showing that many of its statistics and assertions are made up out of whole cloth: BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | Debunking a YouTube hit.

(Hat tip: Harry’s Place.)

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455 comments
1 Kragar  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:08:47pm

Why bother with silly things like facts when hype and hysteria work just as well and don't require evidence?

/

2 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:09:16pm

Muslim Europe: the demographic time bomb transforming our continent

3 RightOnTheLeftCoast  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:09:37pm

87.6% of statistics are made up on the spot.

4 Neutral President  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:10:08pm

Hate mail incoming in 4, 3, 2...

5 Last Mohican  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:10:23pm

I'm inclined to believe the BBC more than that video, but it's worth noting that the BBC isn't listing a whole lot of sources either.

6 mrbaracuda  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:10:48pm

You mean I can still get me a nice German pork sausage in 40 years? Hooray! o/

7 WinterCat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:10:55pm

re: #3 RightOnTheLeftCoast

87.6% of statistics are made up on the spot.

Well that only happens 79.3% of the time.

8 mrbaracuda  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:11:55pm

The comment section ate my right arm! :(

9 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:11:57pm

re: #6 mrbaracuda

You mean I can still get me a nice German pork sausage in 40 years? Hooray! o/

You'll have to clear it through the health care administration or face one of Obama's Death Panels.
//

10 Kragar  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:12:08pm

re: #7 WinterCat

Well that only happens 79.3% of the time.

All probabilities are 50/50

11 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:12:24pm

Ahhh...The BBC.

12 RightOnTheLeftCoast  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:12:34pm

re: #7 WinterCat

Well that only happens 79.3% of the time.

Damn! Better recheck my source...

13 mrbaracuda  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:12:44pm

re: #9 CyanSnowHawk

What, you mean Obama will finally become what millions of Germans already want him to be anyway? :-D

14 OldLineTexan  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:12:45pm

What's all this I hear about Muslim Democrats?

/what?

/oh.

Nevermind!

15 Ayeless in Ghazi  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:12:49pm

Good work, BBC.

16 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:12:52pm

re: #10 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

All probabilities are 50/50

Schrodinger's cat waits nervously.

17 Neutral President  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:12:59pm

re: #10 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

All probabilities are 50/50

60% of the time, it works everytime.

18 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:13:00pm

Well known stagnation in birth rates in many populous Muslim countries.

19 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:13:18pm

re: #17 ArchangelMichael

60% of the time, it works everytime.

Upding for the "Anchorman" quote.

20 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:13:44pm
It is the claims made about individual countries that are most striking. The video says that a typical French family has 1.8 children but that French Muslim families have 8.1 children.

Heh.

21 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:13:49pm

The demographics are bad enough without hysteria.

What's worse than the demographics is the amount of rolling over that has been going on in the name of political correctness.

22 Kragar  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:14:01pm

re: #19 doppelganglander

Upding for the "Anchorman" quote.

Its made with bits of real panther, so you know its good.

23 Dianna  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:14:07pm

re: #4 ArchangelMichael

Hate mail incoming in 4, 3, 2...

Yeah. That's predictable, isn't it?

Dreary.

24 LGoPs  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:14:18pm

I trust neither the BBC's numbers, nor the videos.
I think a greater concern is a lack of assimiliation. That is what truly threatens a country's identity.

25 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:14:26pm
Is 25% of the Belgian population Muslim, as the video asserts? No. The Belgian office of statistics points to a 2008 study which suggests the real figure is just 6%.
26 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:14:41pm

re: #8 mrbaracuda

The comment section ate my right arm! :(

Obama's Death Panel is ready to you now.

27 Last Mohican  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:14:46pm

re: #5 Last Mohican

I'm inclined to believe the BBC more than that video, but it's worth noting that the BBC isn't listing a whole lot of sources either.

Well, okay, they cite some sources...

28 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:15:05pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

Heh.

Still wondering how families manage non-integer values of children.
//

29 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:15:20pm

More:

But the video doesn't just rely on statistics, it also uses an official Government statement. It quotes it as saying: "The fall in German population can no longer be stopped. Its downward spiral is no longer reversible. It will be a Muslim state by the year 2050."

The statement in question was made by then vice-president of the Federal Statistics Office, Walter Radermacher, who is now chief statistician of the European Union. He says that while it is true he said Germany's population was in decline, the last part of the quote [in italics] is just an invention. He said nothing about Germany becoming a Muslim state.

"The quotation which reads as if the German government believed that Germany will become a Muslim state is simply not true," he says. "There is no source which can be quoted that the German government has published such an expression or opinion."

30 RightOnTheLeftCoast  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:15:25pm

"90 percent of this game is half mental." -- Danny Ozark

31 Dianna  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:15:30pm

re: #16 CyanSnowHawk

Schrodinger's cat waits nervously.

She's both alive and dead, and laughing at us, either way. It's a cat thing.

32 jaunte  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:15:54pm

Someone may soon be claiming that 6% "feels" like 25%.

33 Kragar  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:15:59pm

re: #28 CyanSnowHawk

Still wondering how families manage non-integer values of children.
//

They've got a foot and ankle sitting in the corner. "Thats Edward, the runt of the litter."

34 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:16:28pm

re: #28 CyanSnowHawk

Still wondering how families manage non-integer values of children.
//

You Station Wagon didn't come with a seat for the .5 kid?

35 mrbaracuda  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:17:04pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

I always have to snicker about these .x statistics. There's a comedy show called "xtra 3" in Germany. They have a segment called "The average German family". Have a look and watch the intro for a good laugh about the 1.4 - or better said .4 :-D

36 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:17:08pm

Well, damn. One less easy source for my daily apocolyptogasm. What am I too be afraid of now?

Oh, sorry, of course: government hands on my Medicare.

37 Arlemagne  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:17:13pm

This video is not precisely on point, but it will shed some important light. It's called "Demographic Winter." It features the contributions of PhD's, Nobel Prize Winners, and others. The birth rate around the globe is declining due mainly to economic reasons.

Google Video

It makes perfectly clear that Moslem countries are not the exception to this. There are also books written by some pretty heavy hitters including The Empty Cradle by Phillip Longman and "The Graying of the Great Powers" that expand on this theme.

38 opnion  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:17:28pm

Muslim demographics can get contentious from the point of view of Muslims.
I was driving in the Detroit area a couple of years pre 9/11.
I had on an Arab talk show on the radio. The host & callers were livid claiming that their numbers were under reported.
They seemed to believe that it was some grand conspiracy.

39 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:18:01pm

I am not inclined to believe the BBC on principle, but they do seem to be right this time. Some of the claims in the video are just farcical: 8.1 children per Muslim family? 25% Muslim population in Belgium?
These alone should set off all kinds of critical thinking alarms.

40 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:18:10pm

Better chance of Idiocracy coming true..a far better chance

/wince

41 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:18:46pm

"Arab Demographics" is also used as a scare tactic by the Israeli left in order to promote the giveaway of more and more land or else there will be a "Bi-national state."

On the other hand, "Haredi Demographics" inspires the Israeli left to promote getting tougher, if not downright fascist in response to an increasing Jewish Orthodox population.

42 jaunte  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:18:56pm

re: #38 opnion

You could call in and blame the Belgians for hogging more than their fair share.

43 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:19:02pm

The model the Youtube video and others used never allowed for the slowing of the Muslim birth rate. It slowed everything else down, but kept the birthrate of the new immigrants steady at the higher level.

One thing that happens in populations, almost universally, is the decline of the birth rate when the economic conditions of the immigrants improve. When the unwashed masses arrived here in the USA from 1850 onwards, the natives decried the same thing. The Irish will out breed up, the Italians are having too many kids, etc. etc. The same thing is happening here now with Mexican and other Latin American arrivals. Their birthrates are higher than the average citizen, but that only lasts a generation or two at the most.

The Muslim immigrants are not getting assimilated into European society as well as immigrants here do, but their birthrates will decline as the children and the grandchildren of the immigrants enjoy a better economic condition.

Europe will become more mixed ethnically in the future. There is no escaping that. Just like here in the USA, we will see the rise of more and more interracial and inter-ethnical children (mine for example). The USA is getting less white and more brown. But, every successive wave of immigration brings a new vigor and increases our gene pool. It is a very good thing. Here at least...not so sure if the Europeans are up to assimilating the same way we do here and in Canada.

44 LGoPs  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:19:30pm

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel

I am not inclined to believe the BBC on principle, but they do seem to be right this time. Some of the claims in the video are just farcical: 8.1 children per Muslim family? 25% Muslim population in Belgium?
These alone should set off all kinds of critical thinking alarms.

I don't know about European Muslims but when I lived in Saudi Arabia the birthrate was between 7 and 8 per woman. The number is attainable.

45 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:20:15pm

Do Muslims Have More Children Than Other Women in Western Europe?

In their study, Westoff and Frejka sift through the available data to estimate the level and trends in childbearing among European Muslims. They show that although Muslim immigrants do have more children than other Europeans, their fertility tends to decline over time, often faster than among non-Muslims.

Read the whole thing.

46 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:20:16pm

re: #29 Charles

More:

Faked but accurate

///

47 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:20:22pm

re: #39 Shiplord Kirel

I am not inclined to believe the BBC on principle, but they do seem to be right this time. Some of the claims in the video are just farcical: 8.1 children per Muslim family? 25% Muslim population in Belgium?
These alone should set off all kinds of critical thinking alarms.

The video is a complete pile of unsourced crap, seasoned with lies and alarmism. I wasn't kidding when I compared it to "Loose Change." It's the Gates of Vienna - Brussels Journal - Eurofascist nutjob line, and it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that some of those people are behind it.

48 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:20:44pm

Does anyone know if Mark Steyn has commented on the original video or the BBC's fisking of it?

49 jantjepietje  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:20:50pm

Although the numbers in that video are clearly wrong we do have a problem with large growth of Muslim populations in the Netherlands and the rest of Europe especially when you consider that even with only 5% of the poplation Islam is already a big debate and many left-wing politicians already consider giving in our principles to accustom only this 5% (for example separating men and women for naturalization courses, change clothing rules for the police to let them wear headscarfs etc)

It´s always easy to point to an extreme call it out on being wrong and say that therefore the problem doesn't exist

this quote I find especially harmful

"In the 1930s there were population projections made of the UK that by the end of the century the UK population would be 20 million. Well, it turned out to be 50 million.

"That's how far out you can get when you're moving 40 or 50 years down the line and not taking into account the uncertainty."


As if demographic science didn't make any progress in the last 80 years the same arguments are used against evoltion because this one professor made a mistake in 1910 or against climate change because we didn't know in 1950 what we know now

50 opnion  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:21:41pm

re: #42 jaunte

You could call in and blame the Belgians for hogging more than their fair share.

I don't think that the talk show host was aware of it.

51 solomonpanting  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:21:47pm

The video claimed a 30 fold increase in the UK's Muslim population for the past thirty years, growing from 82,000 to 2.5 million. The BBC says the starting figure is closrer to 300,000. So that's only an eight fold increase.
;)

52 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:22:49pm

From the wikipedia entry on Eurabia:

Criticisms

You can see in the footnotes, there are quite a few other studies debunking the demographic hysterics of some.

53 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:23:49pm

The Muslims are coming, the Muslims are coming

54 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:24:01pm

Huh?

(... WTF?! ...)

55 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:24:21pm

re: #47 Charles

The video is a complete pile of unsourced crap, seasoned with lies and alarmism. I wasn't kidding when I compared it to "Loose Change." It's the Gates of Vienna - Brussels Journal - Eurofascist nutjob line, and it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that some of those people are behind it.

Buchanan has been saying the same crap about the USA here too...the Mexicans are taking over!! Help! Help!

56 LGoPs  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:24:41pm

re: #53 quiet man

The Muslims are coming, the Muslims are coming

One if by gland, two if by sea...
/

57 Kragar  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:24:44pm

re: #53 quiet man

The Muslims are coming, the Muslims are coming

I took care of that last thread. Ben Hur can grab the mop bucket this time

58 harpsicon  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:24:55pm

re: #29 Charles

More:

"The fall in German population can no longer be stopped. Its downward spiral is no longer reversible."

That was the official statement. Admittedly the German govt didn't go on to say that Germany would be a Muslim state, but with the German population imploding, who will be the workers in fifty years? They can't do like Japan and just keep the walls high as their population implodes.

The replacement people will be Muslims, way more likely than not. Whether Germany becomes a Muslim state will be up to them, in large measure.

It is not "hate" to point this out. My wife works in Germany a bunch, and is always amazed at how the Germans always talk about how "everything is family" but then you find out that they have one child, who're: #29 Charles

More:

s 36 and not married.

59 jaunte  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:25:05pm

Immigrant populations tend to follow the reproductive patterns of the host population.

Almost two decades ago, Fernand Braudel’s The Identity of France referred to some interesting statistics:

By 1976, the number of immigrants was estimated at 3,700,000 or 7% of the total population. Of this total, Portuguese immigrants accounted for 22%, Algerian for 21%, Spanish for 15%, Italian for 13%, Moroccan for 8%, Tunisian for 4%, Turkish for 1.5%, and black African for 2.3% (figures from the 1975 census). Most of these immigrants were adults, men who had been selected (their mortality rate was well below the French average). The immigrant birth rate was high: immigrants from the three North African countries had an average of 5 to 6 children per woman, Portuguese 3.3, Spanish 2.5, Italian 2. 'On average in 1975, this indicator [the fertility rate] was 3.32 for all immigrants, as against 1.84 for the French and 1.93 for the whole population resident in France.' But once the immigrants have settled in France, their fertility rate, wherever measurement is possible, tends to 'fall in parallel' to the indigenous French fertility rate.

(Michel-Louis Levy, "Les étrangers en France," in Population et société, July-August 1980, no. 137.)
[Link: rfmcdpei.livejournal.com...]

60 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:25:09pm

There are only two things I hate..People who cite bad demographics as their source...and the Dutch.

61 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:25:17pm

(To explain my #54, I honestly don't know whether to GAZE or not.)

62 Dianna  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:25:18pm

I'm out. Take care, all.

63 Kragar  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:25:53pm

re: #60 quiet man

There are only two things I hate..People who cite bad demographics as their source...and the Dutch.

And Carnies, big hands, smell of cabbage.

64 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:25:56pm

re: #57 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
I guess that most elephants would be Muslim..since they grow up around there.

65 Kragar  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:26:50pm

re: #64 quiet man

I guess that most elephants would be Muslim..since they grow up around there.

I thought they would tend towards Buddhism myself.

66 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:27:52pm

re: #61 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(To explain my #54, I honestly don't know whether to GAZE or not.)

To gaze or not to gaze, that is the question...

67 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:28:03pm

re: #55 Desert Dog

Buchanan has been saying the same crap about the USA here too...the Mexicans are taking over!! Help! Help!

I know a LOT of second generation Mexican-Americans and quite a few naturalized ones. My experience is that they are being completely assimilated about as quickly as they come in, about on a par with non-English European immigrants in former times, if not a little faster.

68 harpsicon  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:28:22pm

re: #51 solomonpanting

The video claimed a 30 fold increase in the UK's Muslim population for the past thirty years, growing from 82,000 to 2.5 million. The BBC says the starting figure is closrer to 300,000. So that's only an eight fold increase.
;)

Exactly.

It doubled three times in 38 years, but it's alarmist to say that it will double once in 50 years?

69 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:28:33pm

re: #65 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

well..you probably saw too many jungle boy movies as a kid since Buddhists do not like to trumpet

70 mrbaracuda  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:29:06pm

re: #55 Desert Dog

La Raza!

re: #58 harpsicon

One thing that certainly adds to the hysteria is that there's a common assumption that for example Turk = Muslim. You should hear the "Central Council of German Muslims" talking. For them every single Turk of the ~3.6 million we have here is a Muslim. NO EXCEPTION!!11

From personal experience I have to say probably half doesn't give a shit about Islam. But that's just personal experience. ;-D

71 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:30:09pm

Robert Spencer linked to similar crap a few days ago...
Demographic time bomb: millions of Muslim immigrants will change Europe beyond recognition, and almost no policymakers are talking about it

Europe's low white birth rate, coupled with faster multiplying migrants, will change fundamentally what we take to mean by European culture and society.

72 LGoPs  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:30:18pm

BBL

73 callahan23  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:30:48pm

re: #24 LGoPs

I trust neither the BBC's numbers, nor the videos.
I think a greater concern is a lack of assimiliation. That is what truly threatens a country's identity.

Completely agree, there is bound to be tensions when young muslim men view all western women as whores.
Or when BMO's (black moving objects) are going swimming alongside topless swimmers.

74 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:30:49pm

re: #59 jaunte

And that trend is exactly what the more recent data shows for muslim immigrants. Their rates are dropping, in some cases quickly.

75 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:30:58pm

Zombie raised an interesting point yesterday about global warming. This concern will, or should, lead to a massive acceleration in the transition to non-petroleum energy supplies.
That transition, in turn, will reduce the most militant parts of the Muslim world back to poverty, since they have little else, and eliminate the jihadist threat all by itself.

76 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:31:07pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

yeah but kids dont listen, right??

they are too busy tossing molotovs at cars and things

77 RightOnTheLeftCoast  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:31:40pm

Offering up a little Haiku on the subject:

Faking Statistics
Stirring up Fear and Angst
Refuge of Scoundrels

78 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:31:57pm

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel

I know a LOT of second generation Mexican-Americans and quite a few naturalized ones. My experience is that they are being completely assimilated about as quickly as they come in, about on a par with non-English European immigrants in former times, if not a little faster.

After one generation, they are Americans, no doubt. Some still cling on to romantic visions of the homeland, but that is no different than an Irish-American, Italian-American, etc. etc...My wife laments the fact that our kids are 50% filipino genetically, but they are 100% American in nature.

79 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:32:08pm

re: #73 callahan23
maybe if we marked the western women who are whores in some way...

80 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:32:29pm

You know, Charles, don't look now, but I'm very afraid some people might be angry with you if you try to debunk a threat they love to fear so much. I'm not going to mention any names, but you may even find some folks here upset by such a notion.

Maybe. I could be wrong.

81 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:32:34pm

Everyone klnows that the Mormons and Catholics will take over the world through selective breeding. There can only be one!/

82 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:32:59pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

Robert Spencer linked to similar crap a few days ago...
Demographic time bomb: millions of Muslim immigrants will change Europe beyond recognition, and almost no policymakers are talking about it

Europe's low white birth rate, coupled with faster multiplying migrants, will change fundamentally what we take to mean by European culture and society.


"White birth rate" and he's not seeing the problem with this? I'm not surprised.

83 LGoPs  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:33:02pm

re: #73 callahan23

Completely agree, there is bound to be tensions when young muslim men view all western women as whores.
Or when BMO's (black moving objects) are going swimming alongside topless swimmers.

Precisely. If one is unwilling to assimilate then one should consider never emigrating in the first place.

84 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:33:15pm

re: #79 quiet man

maybe if we marked the western women who are whores in some way...

well, they never toss the sluts into the volcanoes, do they? Only the virgins. Now that is serious peer pressure.

85 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:33:45pm

re: #81 DaddyG

Everyone klnows that the Mormons and Catholics will take over the world through selective breeding. There can only be one!/

Then obviously you mean the Mormons or the Catholics. We don't really mix much. ;^)

86 RightOnTheLeftCoast  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:34:02pm

re: #77 RightOnTheLeftCoast

Offering up a little Haiku on the subject:

Faking Statistics
Stirring up Fear and Angst
Refuge of Scoundrels

Crap... I lost a syllable in there. :(
Must. Try. Again.

87 SixDegrees  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:34:04pm

re: #75 Shiplord Kirel

Zombie raised an interesting point yesterday about global warming. This concern will, or should, lead to a massive acceleration in the transition to non-petroleum energy supplies.
That transition, in turn, will reduce the most militant parts of the Muslim world back to poverty, since they have little else, and eliminate the jihadist threat all by itself.

I'm not seeing how that will eliminate jihadism. It tends to thrive in the most impoverished areas, and it's tactics don't require much in the way of cash or other resources.

88 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:35:05pm

re: #74 Sharmuta

And that trend is exactly what the more recent data shows for muslim immigrants. Their rates are dropping, in some cases quickly.

Which, at least in the case of France, it should be, since they passed new immigration laws a few years ago, in an effort to cut down on the amount of immigrants.

Good job France.

89 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:35:08pm

re: #84 Desert Dog

I remember a cartoon where the priest was taking this beautiful woman away from the volcano saying

"The gods would never be this angry"

90 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:35:41pm

re: #86 RightOnTheLeftCoast

re: #77 RightOnTheLeftCoast


Crap... I lost a syllable in there. :(

the last littlew sign on the raod shopuld say

Obamashave
Must. Try. Again.

91 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:35:44pm

re: #80 Cato the Elder

You know, Charles, don't look now, but I'm very afraid some people might be angry with you if you try to debunk a threat they love to fear so much. I'm not going to mention any names, but you may even find some folks here upset by such a notion.

Maybe. I could be wrong.

Eurabia is a kookspiracy. There. I said it.

92 katemaclaren  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:35:47pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

Well, KT, my Muslim neighbors have 9 --count 'em--9 kids and she's pregnant. "I want sons--good American sons," says Malik. Only 4 of these are boys, so this may mean several more--they live in a nice big house while he does postdoc work at UPENN--all but 2 of these kids are US citizens. They are Palestinian Israelis.

93 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:37:16pm

re: #92 katemaclaren

Well, KT, my Muslim neighbors have 9 --count 'em--9 kids and she's pregnant. "I want sons--good American sons," says Malik. Only 4 of these are boys, so this may mean several more--they live in a nice big house while he does postdoc work at UPENN--all but 2 of these kids are US citizens. They are Palestinian Israelis.

I bet those kids will not have the same birthrate as their mother. Sometimes, but that is the trend, at least.

94 katemaclaren  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:37:30pm

re: #88 Walter L. Newton

Which, at least in the case of France, it should be, since they passed new immigration laws a few years ago, in an effort to cut down on the amount of immigrants.

Good job France.

...and The Netherlands? How's that going?

95 ArmyWife  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:38:02pm

re: #80 Cato the Elder

Hopefully whoever those people are, they realize a few key points:

1. Hate the actions, not an entire group of people. To do otherwise is akin to racism, and there should be zero tolerance for racists regardless of party affiliation.
2. When fighting against the actions, do so with verifiable facts, not emotional hyperbole. Fact checking is easier - and quicker - than ever before. Plus, you lose all credibility even IF there is a smidgen of something meritorious amongst the muck.

96 katemaclaren  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:38:18pm

re: #93 Desert Dog

Well, I would agree with that! they won't be able to afford to procreate at that rate--but YIKES, if they do...

97 opnion  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:39:03pm

re: #88 Walter L. Newton

Which, at least in the case of France, it should be, since they passed new immigration laws a few years ago, in an effort to cut down on the amount of immigrants.

Good job France.

I suggest that captured terrorists be signed up for Obama Care , or would that be a war crime?

98 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:39:24pm

re: #94 katemaclaren

Fertility rates for muslims in Europe are dropping.

99 katemaclaren  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:39:49pm

re: #84 Desert Dog

well, they never toss the sluts into the volcanoes, do they? Only the virgins. Now that is serious peer pressure.

LOL!!! Good one!

100 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:40:39pm

re: #96 katemaclaren

Well, I would agree with that! they won't be able to afford to procreate at that rate--but YIKES, if they do...

We have a friend that is Hawaiian. She is the youngest of 15 kids. She has one child. All of her brothers and sisters have less than 3 each. 15 OUCH!

101 katemaclaren  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:41:07pm

re: #98 Sharmuta

I, for one, am glad to hear it. Birthrates should drop in all countries--it would help everything from global warming to...well, everything!

102 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:41:10pm

re: #97 opnion

I suggest that captured terrorists be signed up for Obama Care , or would that be a war crime?

Send them straight to the death panel too

103 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:41:11pm

UK Muslim 2.7%

Germany Muslim 3.7%

France Muslim 5%-10%


They are a long way from taking over.

104 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:41:19pm

re: #36 Cato the Elder

What am I too be afraid of now?.

Badly adapted Shakespeare perhaps?

To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous reporting,
Or to comment against a sea of troubles,
And by blogging end them? To blog: to tweet;
Facebook; and by a blog to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To blog, to tweet;
To tweet: perchance to scream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that blog of truth what screams may come
When we have written off this internet soiled,
Must give us pause: there's no respect
That makes anonymity of internet life;
For who would bear the whips and scorns of trolls,
The sock puppet's wrong, the lizard's contumely,
The pangs of despised topics, stinky's delay,
The insolence of troll's and the spurns
That patient merit of the unworthy socks,
When he himself might his comment make
With a bare keyboard? who would lizards bear,
To comment and snark under a weary thread,
But that the thread of something after stick,
The undiscover'd commentary from whose bourn
No banned returns, puzzles the will
And makes us rather bear those trolls we have
Than stalk with others that we know of?
Thus conscience does make lizards of us all;
And thus the native hue of resolution
Is covered o'er with the green cast of thought,
And threads of great pitch and moment
With this regard their currents turn awry,
And loose the puns of action.

105 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:41:20pm
106 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:41:26pm

re: #94 katemaclaren

...and The Netherlands? How's that going?

I'm not sure what you are asking?

A lot of the adjustments in the birthrates and increase in Muslim immigrants has everything to do with the stiffer new immigration laws in Europe. Less immigrants equal lower birth rates.

All former bets about Eurabia are off, but don't let anyone tell you it has anything to do with anything except stiffer new laws.

The world should take notice.

107 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:42:20pm

re: #103 Killgore Trout

UK Muslim 2.7%

Germany Muslim 3.7%

France Muslim 5%-10%

They are a long way from taking over.

Right because the government wised up and introduced stiff immigration laws.

Smart.

108 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:42:24pm

re: #102 Desert Dog

agreed about the death panel..since it will be fully funded and all..might as well use it.

109 ArmyWife  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:42:41pm

re: #92 katemaclaren

A co-worker whom I really enjoy has 6 children and is considering adopting more because he is in a position to provide a loving home. He is not Muslim.

My coordinator is one of 9, she is not Muslim.

Another Engineer co-worker from my last job had 7 children. Not Muslim.

Muslims do not have the monopoly on large families.

110 callahan23  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:42:52pm

re: #84 Desert Dog

well, they never toss the sluts into the volcanoes, do they? Only the virgins. Now that is serious peer pressure.

Good girl go to heaven, bad girls get to go anyplace.

111 katemaclaren  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:42:54pm

re: #102 Desert Dog

Amen, Brother.

112 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:42:55pm

re: #105 buzzsawmonkey

Well, hell, you can go broke buying birthday cards, let alone actual gifts.

It's how they gothere first place...

Look little Joey what I got you for your birthday... a baby brother!

113 SixDegrees  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:42:58pm

re: #103 Killgore Trout

UK Muslim 2.7%

Germany Muslim 3.7%

France Muslim 5%-10%

They are a long way from taking over.

Guaranteed that one of the responses to this outing will be: "But what about the sekrit mooslims?!?!"

114 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:43:19pm

re: #105 buzzsawmonkey

she told me she had quite a few worn out and out of style hand-me-downs growing up. 8 older sisters

115 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:43:27pm

re: #110 callahan23
small loss in the big picture...

116 katemaclaren  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:43:30pm

re: #109 ArmyWife

A co-worker whom I really enjoy has 6 children and is considering adopting more because he is in a position to provide a loving home. He is not Muslim.

My coordinator is one of 9, she is not Muslim.

Another Engineer co-worker from my last job had 7 children. Not Muslim.

Muslims do not have the monopoly on large families.

Oh I know--I have six.

117 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:43:37pm

re: #98 Sharmuta

Fertility rates for muslims in Europe are dropping.

Correct. And combined with the stiffer immigration laws, Eurabia is not currently a threat.

This country should take a few pointers from the spate of immigration laws passed through out Europe.

118 LGoPs  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:43:41pm

Not a terribly brilliant thought on my part but I wonder if the birthrate issue boils down simply to the difference between agrarian and industrial societies. Agricultural societies need lots of workers per family. Industrial societies less so, at least at the family level. I imagine that it takes a generation or two to change the default birthrate but eventually it should decrease as families migrate.
Probably overly simplistic and certainly there are other factors that play a role as well...

119 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:44:13pm

re: #101 katemaclaren

I, for one, am glad to hear it. Birthrates should drop in all countries--it would help everything from global warming to...well, everything!

Higher standards of living, access to better health care, birth control, etc. lead to lower fertility rates across cultures. When you have fewer off-springs surviving, you need few "replacements". Of course- some people want to have large families, and that should be their choice.

120 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:44:15pm

re: #100 Desert Dog

We have a friend that is Hawaiian. She is the youngest of 15 kids. She has one child. All of her brothers and sisters have less than 3 each. 15 OUCH!

My husband is the youngest of 7. Two of his siblings have no children, two have two, one has one and two have three each. So 7 children produced only 11 grandchildren, rather than 49 as one might have feared.

/Why yes, it's a Catholic family, how did you know?

121 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:44:26pm

re: #118 LGoPs
Maybe.,.but how many people do you need to take a goat down to the community well??

122 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:45:12pm
123 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:45:13pm
124 Digital Display  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:45:20pm

re: #118 LGoPs

Not a terribly brilliant thought on my part but I wonder if the birthrate issue boils down simply to the difference between agrarian and industrial societies. Agricultural societies need lots of workers per family. Industrial societies less so, at least at the family level. I imagine that it takes a generation or two to change the default birthrate but eventually it should decrease as families migrate.
Probably overly simplistic and certainly there are other factors that play a role as well...


Sex!
*wink*
/hey you! hope you are well

125 ArmyWife  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:45:23pm

re: #116 katemaclaren

Good for you! Was your global warming comment a joke then?

126 katemaclaren  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:45:24pm

re: #116 katemaclaren

...but only three grandchildren--and not likely to have more since my kids are well past wanting any--they have good memories of their respective sibling rivalrous pasts! (You're on MY side. That's MINE. Mommy, you like HER best!!)

127 LGoPs  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:45:35pm

re: #121 quiet man

Maybe.,.but how many people do you need to take a goat down to the community well??

Takes quite a few to herd them.

128 katemaclaren  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:45:48pm

re: #119 Sharmuta

Agreed.

129 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:45:50pm

re: #123 buzzsawmonkey

falling down hard

130 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:46:11pm

re: #127 LGoPs
I heard that

131 LGoPs  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:46:11pm

re: #124 HoosierHoops

Sex!
*wink*
/hey you! hope you are well

I am. Thanks my friend. Gotta run to a meeting though. Back later.

132 ArmyWife  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:46:17pm

re: #124 HoosierHoops

Wait, what? THAT is what causes it? Why didn't someone TELL ME???

133 SixDegrees  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:46:19pm

re: #109 ArmyWife

My coordinator is one of 9, she is not Muslim.

What's 7 of 9 like?

134 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:46:26pm

re: #87 SixDegrees

I'm not seeing how that will eliminate jihadism. It tends to thrive in the most impoverished areas, and it's tactics don't require much in the way of cash or other resources.

For years now, this blog and many others have documented the oil-rich nation of Saudi Arabia, home of 15 of 19 9-11 hijackers, as the central locus of the global jihad. It does take money, a lot of it, to fund the kind of insurgency that is being stamped out in Iraq and that still flourishes in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Algeria and many other places. Jihadists will still exist without this support, as they existed before the Islamic oil boom, but they will just not be the kind of threat they are today.

Btw, even before I went to Iraq, I posted my brother's extraordinary report that just about dead foreign insurgent he and his soldiers checked in Iraq was carrying a huge wad of American currency, usually in the hundreds of dollars, sometimes in the thousands. One fomer jihadist, or what was left of him, was found to be carrying $22,000 in a money belt.
Later, I personally confirmed that these reports were largely true. As far as anyone can tell, very few of the expired jihadists were from Pakistan or Indonesia, which are both the most populous and the poorest Muslim countries. They were mostly from Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, and Egypt.
I hear the same thing about jihad pocket money from sources in Afghanistan, though obviously there are a lot of Pakistanis in the Taliban.

135 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:46:56pm

re: #133 SixDegrees

She has the best chest in the collective

136 katemaclaren  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:47:11pm

re: #125 ArmyWife

yes! Although, Global warming wasn't an issue when I was fertile ;-) --then, it was overpopulation (The Population Bomb), and Global Cooling--the Ice is coming the Ice is coming---not to mention the Russians!!!

137 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:47:24pm

re: #128 katemaclaren

I kind of got that backwards, but I think you knew what I meant. When more children survive infant-hood, there is less need to have more.

138 Neutral President  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:47:49pm

re: #44 LGoPs

I don't know about European Muslims but when I lived in Saudi Arabia the birthrate was between 7 and 8 per woman. The number is attainable.

Saudi Arabia's fertility rate is only 3.35 children/woman. The only place even remotely close to 8 is Niger at 7.19.

139 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:47:51pm

re: #123 buzzsawmonkey

Who can take an earthquake?
Inundate with waves?
Whose population will survive
With the closest of shaves?
The Andamans can
The Andamans can
The Andamans can
With a helpful infusion
Of international aid


(I wasn't here for the prior earthquake thread)

Was that a BURMA shave, Buzz?

/considering the location, of course

140 ArmyWife  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:48:03pm

re: #121 quiet man

Depends. Are any of them Aggies?

141 SixDegrees  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:48:14pm

re: #118 LGoPs

Not a terribly brilliant thought on my part but I wonder if the birthrate issue boils down simply to the difference between agrarian and industrial societies. Agricultural societies need lots of workers per family. Industrial societies less so, at least at the family level. I imagine that it takes a generation or two to change the default birthrate but eventually it should decrease as families migrate.
Probably overly simplistic and certainly there are other factors that play a role as well...

Partly true. Another factor is that it requires more and longer education to succeed in urban societies, with their prevalence of highly specialized and often complex jobs, so parents devote their finite resources to fewer offspring to ensure that each has a chance at getting the most education possible.

142 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:49:07pm

re: #140 ArmyWife
a couple of shooters, a clear and some black ones..no aggies tho

143 Digital Display  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:49:09pm

re: #132 ArmyWife

Wait, what? THAT is what causes it? Why didn't someone TELL ME???

I think Armyhusband has been holding out on you...
LOL
Hope you are well today

144 harpsicon  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:49:21pm

re: #59 jaunte

Immigrant populations tend to follow the reproductive patterns of the host population.

Tend to... Is this proof? Other immigrants tend in large measure to assimilate, but not the Muslims. They so often self-identify not as "French" but as "Muslim". The Arabic word for "Frankish" has come back into vogue as a slur against native French ("Frankish subtlety" is an old, quasi anti-Semitic kind of slur, apparently).

Suppose the birthrate quoted here, already twice as high as other immigrants, craters to "only" three. The native birthrate is something like 1.3.

Same basic outcome. The laugh is that the French expect to collect their retirement benefits out of the labor of these people in 30 years...

145 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:49:42pm

re: #139 pre-Boomer Marine brat


it was a very thai't shave...

146 katemaclaren  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:50:02pm

re: #137 Sharmuta

Yep. I understood--and I agree.

147 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:50:04pm

Obama Is A Japanese Robot

148 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:50:24pm
149 ArmyWife  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:50:50pm

re: #143 HoosierHoops

Hi there, friend. All is well. This is the last week before he transfers to Ft. Lee. No more holding out after that!!

(sorry, maybe a bit too much info for some!)

150 quiet man  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:51:11pm

re: #147 Killgore Trout

maybe so..just dont ask about his birth certificate

((or if he has frogs legs, either))

151 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:51:23pm

Sorry that I need to post something off-topic, but...

Is there something going on over central Florida? I keep getting an "all circuits busy" message when I try to call there. I can call other numbers, so I figure the problem isn't on my end.

152 ArmyWife  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:51:24pm

re: #147 Killgore Trout

I KNEW IT!

now I'll go read the story.

153 opnion  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:52:10pm

re: #144 harpsicon

Tend to... Is this proof? Other immigrants tend in large measure to assimilate, but not the Muslims. They so often self-identify not as "French" but as "Muslim". The Arabic word for "Frankish" has come back into vogue as a slur against native French ("Frankish subtlety" is an old, quasi anti-Semitic kind of slur, apparently).

Suppose the birthrate quoted here, already twice as high as other immigrants, craters to "only" three. The native birthrate is something like 1.3.

Same basic outcome. The laugh is that the French expect to collect their retirement benefits out of the labor of these people in 30 years...

I remember vividly an intervew with a Muslim in France.
He said that it was his Islamic duity to take public assistance & not work. If he worked he would be forced to pay taxes to the Kafir.

154 SixDegrees  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:52:33pm

re: #134 Shiplord Kirel

For years now, this blog and many others have documented the oil-rich nation of Saudi Arabia, home of 15 of 19 9-11 hijackers, as the central locus of the global jihad. It does take money, a lot of it, to fund the kind of insurgency that is being stamped out in Iraq and that still flourishes in Afghanistan, Chechnya, Algeria and many other places. Jihadists will still exist without this support, as they existed before the Islamic oil boom, but they will just not be the kind of threat they are today.

Btw, even before I went to Iraq, I posted my brother's extraordinary report that just about dead foreign insurgent he and his soldiers checked in Iraq was carrying a huge wad of American currency, usually in the hundreds of dollars, sometimes in the thousands. One fomer jihadist, or what was left of him, was found to be carrying $22,000 in a money belt.
Later, I personally confirmed that these reports were largely true. As far as anyone can tell, very few of the expired jihadists were from Pakistan or Indonesia, which are both the most populous and the poorest Muslim countries. They were mostly from Saudi Arabia, the Gulf states, and Egypt.
I hear the same thing about jihad pocket money from sources in Afghanistan, though obviously there are a lot of Pakistanis in the Taliban.

Egypt and Saudi Arabia, though, are actively emptying jihadists out of their prisons and sending them to go fight for Allah - in the hopes they'll be killed, something the governments themselves can't do, especially in SA, because they're already walking on thin ice with the mullahs.

Granted, there are a few players with serious dough. But they can't survive without adherents, and they find a ready supply of those in the poorest region: Afghanistan, Somalia and other parts of Africa, and within Saudi Arabia itself, most of whose population is crushingly poor; all that oil moolah winds up in very, very few hands, and the citizenry as a whole sees almost none of it.

155 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:52:48pm

You can't finance a global jihad by exporting dates, sand, and camel hair. Opium helps but it is perhaps not as profitable as many think at the source.
No oil, no jihad.

156 katemaclaren  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:52:49pm

Bye everyone. Global Warming has finally made it to Philly, so I'm going out for ice cream. Num Num.

157 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:53:00pm

re: #147 Killgore Trout

Obama Is A Japanese Robot

I'm calling fauxtography on that one. Look at the way the American flag on the right is attached to the flag pole at the flapping end instead of the attachment end.
///

158 mrbaracuda  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:55:01pm

re: #147 Killgore Trout

Coincidence that a FOX News van is there? :-D

159 ArmyWife  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:55:10pm

re: #147 Killgore Trout

Well they look like quite the revolutionaries, now don't they!

160 haakondahl  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:55:30pm

re: #86 RightOnTheLeftCoast

Crap... I lost a syllable in there. :(
Must. Try. Again.

Not if you pronounce angst in two beats. Of course, in Japanese transliteration, it would be four syllables, so you have plenty of wiggle room.

161 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:55:31pm

re: #158 mrbaracuda

I think the guy buy the FOX van is getting strangled.

162 mrbaracuda  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:56:53pm

re: #161 Killgore Trout

Maybe they want to secure special ranting coverage rights. :-D
Watched the youtube video I linked you to btw? Just look for 1.4 if you have missed it.

163 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:57:24pm

re: #157 CyanSnowHawk

I'm calling fauxtography on that one. Look at the way the American flag on the right is attached to the flag pole at the flapping end instead of the attachment end.
///

I see your sarc tag, but still, I think the flag is okay. The "pole" it appears to be attached to is in fact a palm tree, and likely further away.

164 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:58:11pm

re: #161 Killgore Trout

I think the guy buy the FOX van is getting strangled.

I think the lady to the left of him in the blue shirt should wear more sensible shoes!

165 mrbaracuda  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:58:28pm

re: #163 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Ach, you Americans, sporting old glory everywhere you can. :-D

166 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 3:59:42pm

re: #163 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I see your sarc tag, but still, I think the flag is okay. The "pole" it appears to be attached to is in fact a palm tree, and likely further away.

Don't go bringing facts to the discussion, you'll lose all the conspiracy nuts reading LGF looking for clues to reinforce their delusions.

167 medaura18586  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:00:01pm

Harry's Place is an absolutely excellent blog on demographics, and I found it via an enlightening comment by Guftafs re: Mark Steyn a long while ago.

168 ArmyWife  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:00:49pm

Not quite Japanese Obama Robot cool, but pretty neat nonetheless:

Flying frog among 353 new Himalayan species: WWF

Your text to link...

169 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:00:53pm

re: #164 sattv4u2

I think the lady to the left of him in the blue shirt should wear more sensible shoes!

I think I want some kettle corn.

170 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:01:27pm

re: #166 CyanSnowHawk

Don't go bringing facts to the discussion, you'll lose all the conspiracy nuts reading LGF looking for clues to reinforce their delusions.

*hanging head, slinking off to the corner*

Iz sowwy!

171 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:02:07pm

re: #169 CyanSnowHawk

I think I want some kettle corn.

The Old Pueblo is kinda like Eerie, IND...hard to explain that place. I lived there for 4 years and my #2 son was born there.

172 reine.de.tout  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:02:43pm

re: #151 victor_yugo

Sorry that I need to post something off-topic, but...

Is there something going on over central Florida? I keep getting an "all circuits busy" message when I try to call there. I can call other numbers, so I figure the problem isn't on my end.

So, I went looking for Florida news, and this is what I found:
Fake Disabled Man Dupes Brevard Woman Into Changing His Diapers

I'm sure that's not the source of your phone problem, though.

173 equable  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:02:49pm

I have a Swedish friend - he tells me that Sweden is getting so bad, he is going to apply to become a U.S. citizen. By "so bad", I mean that he and his friends can rarely go out without being harassed by muslim "youths".

I shall ask him to take pictures (as long as it isn't at his own peril) and send them to me.

174 mrbaracuda  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:02:55pm

Night lizards. It's getting late in Muslim Germany. :-D

175 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:03:01pm

re: #166 CyanSnowHawk

Don't go bringing facts to the discussion, you'll lose all the conspiracy nuts reading LGF looking for clues to reinforce their delusions.

reinforced delusions are very hard to break down too

176 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:03:18pm

re: #170 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*hanging head, slinking off to the corner*

Iz sowwy!

It's okay. Some mistakes are worse than others.

177 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:03:30pm

re: #174 mrbaracuda

Night lizards. It's getting late in Muslim Germany. :-D

Allah Akbar, say good night to your new Muslim overlords for us, will ya?

178 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:04:12pm

re: #176 CyanSnowHawk

It's okay. Some mistakes are worse than others.

I'll miss Jerry...he was a nice bird too

179 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:05:03pm

re: #171 Desert Dog

The Old Pueblo is kinda like Eerie, IND...hard to explain that place. I lived there for 4 years and my #2 son was born there.

Heh, it's QUITE different from Mesa
/25 years there for me, left about 13 yrs ago

180 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:05:09pm

re: #173 equable

I have a Swedish friend - he tells me that Sweden is getting so bad, he is going to apply to become a U.S. citizen. By "so bad", I mean that he and his friends can rarely go out without being harassed by muslim "youths".

I shall ask him to take pictures (as long as it isn't at his own peril) and send them to me.

Some areas in various countries do have problems with "youths". What they should be doing is enforcing the law, but in some areas, they've created no go zones. This has nothing to do, however, with the demographics issue.

181 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:05:54pm

re: #176 CyanSnowHawk

It's okay. Some mistakes are worse than others.

ROFLMAO!

182 callahan23  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:06:12pm

re: #174 mrbaracuda

Night lizards. It's getting late in Muslim Germany. :-D

Gute Nacht. Buenas noches. Stay scaly.

183 medaura18586  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:06:38pm

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com...]

...by Mark Steyn:


The “European Union” is a fairly meaningless statistical concept including as it does places far off the Muslim-beaten path (Estonia). What counts are real jurisdictions - first, the major cities, which are already on the brink of majority Muslim status, from Malmo in Sweden to the EU capital Brussels; and, after the cities, individual nations. Critics of my thesis, most of whom don’t seem to have read the book, like to obsess about the point at which Europe becomes 50.1 per cent Muslim: Steyn’s full of hooey; it won’t happen till 2100, or 2200, if ever. But as I say about 30 pages in. it is not necessary for Islam to become a statistical majority in order to function as one. At the height of its power a millennium and a quarter back, “the Islamic world” stretched from Spain to India, yet its population was only minority Muslim.

So what’s the point at which a society starts to become Muslim in its socio-political character? My book quotes the 2005 Freedom House rankings: Of the 46 Muslim majority nations only three were ranked as free. But of the 16 nations in which Muslims form between 20 and 50 per cent of the population, only another three were ranked as free: Benin, Serbia & Montenegro (as it was then), and Suriname.

So 20 per cent seems a good starting point. For what it’s worth, I’ll bet the EU will be a lot more than one-fifth Muslim by 2050. As for those countries the Telegraph puts in the fast lane, a Netherlands or a United Kingdom that becomes 30 per cent Muslim will not just be more “diverse” but in ways both profound and trivial no longer Dutch or British.

It’s happening. You can argue about the speed, but not about the destination.

What a mind-blowing argument! Good thing Serbia is at least "free" despite its Muslim (read: Albanian) minority. I remember in a haze something about correlation not even remotely implying causation, learned in my statistics courses in my college days, but what do they know...

184 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:06:58pm

re: #179 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Heh, it's QUITE different from Mesa
/25 years there for me, left about 13 yrs ago

Mesa is like "Stepford, CT" sometimes...

But hey, it was voted as one of the most BORING cities in the USA. And, as a residence, I can concur.

185 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:07:27pm

Walks in a flops down.
Hello Lizards.

186 Equable  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:08:07pm

re: #180 Sharmuta

I am currently reading statistics - demographics or not, small tightly-packed pockets or dense enclaves of devout muslims aren't good for any community in my opinion, especially if they aspire to sharia law.

Call me a bigot if you want, but I don't dig subjugation one bit.

187 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:09:54pm

re: #185 DEZes

Walks in a flops down.
Hello Lizards.

I always knew you'd be a flop!

{channeling Mom}

188 callahan23  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:09:57pm

re: #185 DEZes

Walks in a flops down.
Hello Lizards.

Make yourself comfortable buddy.
Here is your beer.

189 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:10:30pm

Circuits still jammed...

Dunno what's up.

190 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:11:07pm

re: #189 victor_yugo

Circuits still jammed...

Dunno what's up.

try prunes

191 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:11:09pm

re: #186 Equable

I am currently reading statistics - demographics or not, small tightly-packed pockets or dense enclaves of devout muslims aren't good for any community in my opinion, especially if they aspire to sharia law.

Call me a bigot if you want, but I don't dig subjugation one bit.

We are allowed to protect our culture. Just ask France. And just think of how boring "It's a Small World" would be if one culture took over everything.
/

192 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:11:15pm

re: #187 sattv4u2

I always knew you'd be a flop!

{channeling Mom}

*WHACK*

;)

193 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:11:38pm

re: #188 callahan23

Make yourself comfortable buddy.
Here is your beer.

Its ice cold too! thanks.

194 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:11:38pm

re: #184 Desert Dog

Mesa is like "Stepford, CT" sometimes...

But hey, it was voted as one of the most BORING cities in the USA. And, as a residence, I can concur.

Boring! OMG, yes!
I was back in Tempe several years ago. Drove over from my hotel in Tempe (Superstition & I-10) to the Bookman's in Mesa. DAMN what a drive! Utterly the same, mile after mile.

195 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:12:28pm

re: #186 Equable

I support the rule of law, which means I think these enclaves need to come back into society. You can't have a parallel system of law and expect society to remain whole. It doesn't matter if it's shari'a or any other break from the rule of law- they all have the same affect: a break down in governing.

196 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:12:49pm

re: #120 doppelganglander

My husband is the youngest of 7. Two of his siblings have no children, two have two, one has one and two have three each. So 7 children produced only 11 grandchildren, rather than 49 as one might have feared.

/Why yes, it's a Catholic family, how did you know?

Their names gave it all away.

197 Equable  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:13:36pm

I suppose that I should expand on that a bit.

I am a firm believer in freedom of religion, as long as said practices adheres to our law and our sacred civil rights. If a religion subjugates others into submission or deviates from our main construct of society, it shouldn't be tolerated.

There's a big difference between being subjected to seeing the words "In God We Trust" on a court and advocating an "honor killing" or gang rape.

And Cyan, thanks for mentioning France. Talk about falling asleep at the wheel.

198 callahan23  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:13:51pm

re: #193 DEZes

Its ice cold too! thanks.

As a German I should have learned that bit by now. ;-)

199 Equable  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:14:10pm

re: #195 Sharmuta

And here I thought I had to get into a debate.

As always, word sister.

200 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:14:53pm

re: #198 callahan23

As a German I should have learned that bit by now. ;-)

Germans drink beer warm or at room temp., or am I mistaken?

201 Digital Display  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:15:00pm

re: #193 DEZes

Its ice cold too! thanks.

Hi DEZ! Hope you are well!

202 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:15:21pm
203 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:15:35pm

re: #199 Equable

You were looking to pick a fight? ;)

204 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:15:40pm

re: #186 Equable

I am currently reading statistics - demographics or not, small tightly-packed pockets or dense enclaves of devout muslims aren't good for any community in my opinion, especially if they aspire to sharia law.

Call me a bigot if you want, but I don't dig subjugation one bit.

It;s not limited to "devout muslims" In most inner cities in this country there are places even the cops don't go into due to Mexican/ Crips/ Bloods etc gangs. The residents there are literally held hostage afraid to venture out, and worse, afraid to call the police when they see anything bad going down

205 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:16:16pm

re: #201 HoosierHoops

Hi DEZ! Hope you are well!

I am well, but a lightning strike corrupted 3 days of work. :(
How ya doing Hoops?

206 callahan23  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:16:21pm

re: #200 DEZes

Germans drink beer warm or at room temp., or am I mistaken?

Nope that was the Brits a few decades back. But even they have learned for the most part.

207 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:16:34pm

re: #198 callahan23

As a German I should have learned that bit by now. ;-)

Since you didn't (yet), you should hops over and stein in the corner.

208 Equable  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:16:39pm

re: #203 Sharmuta

Of course.

I'll supply the beer and pillows.

209 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:17:26pm

re: #207 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Since you didn't (yet), you should hops over and stein in the corner.

You just had to show your mug here again.

210 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:17:38pm

re: #200 DEZes

Germans drink beer warm or at room temp., or am I mistaken?

I believe it is properly served at the cooler temperature of the basement that the kegs are stored in. Not ice cold as is typical here in the US, but not really room temp either.

211 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:17:48pm

re: #196 debutaunt

Their names gave it all away.

Ha. Give me the names. I'll bet you can guess at least two.

212 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:17:50pm

re: #206 callahan23

Nope that was the Brits a few decades back. But even they have learned for the most part.

So I was mistaken.

213 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:17:53pm

re: #209 DEZes

You just had to show your mug here again.

Of Coors he did

214 Equable  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:18:25pm

re: #204 sattv4u2

I understand that and agree. I was just staying on the topic at the top.

I live in Lakewood, California. Very nice, very quiet and somehow stuck with it's initial vision when it was created. It sickens me that there are these "zones" a mere ten miles away.

215 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:18:36pm

re: #209 DEZes

You just had to show your mug here again.

Did you leave the door open when you crawled in? I feel a draft.

216 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:19:28pm

re: #215 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Did you leave the door open when you crawled in? I feel a draft.

Schlitz down on that chair please

217 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:19:42pm

How odd. A bunch of the most recent posts are appearing double for me.

218 itellu3times  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:19:51pm

Christopher Hitchens on the Norko/Clinto thingy.

A Lousy Day's Work
Was Bill Clinton's visit to North Korea worth the time, energy, and prestige? No way.

...
As of last week, and as the result of a huge investment of time and energy and prestige and forced politeness, we can now claim to have reduced the North Korean prison population by exactly two, and they were going to be released anyway. In return, we have immensely gratified and flattered the man who kidnapped them and who makes a daily mockery of international law. There was even "remorse" expressed. But guess by whom? Not by the slave master who makes his territory impossible to enter and impossible to leave. A lousy day's work.
219 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:20:15pm

re: #213 sattv4u2

Of Coors he did

And now we're ALL getting bock to what's important in these threads.

220 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:20:53pm

re: #215 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Did you leave the door open when you crawled in? I feel a draft.

what ales you now?

221 Digital Display  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:21:01pm

re: #205 DEZes

I am well, but a lightning strike corrupted 3 days of work. :(
How ya doing Hoops?

Hiya! First day back from a week off..So it's been a hard days night today...
The best thing in the world is going on vacation...The worst thing is coming home and setting the Alarm Clock..*wink*

222 callahan23  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:21:16pm

re: #212 DEZes

So I was mistaken.

Back in the mid 80's I was in a country side pub in 'summery' Britain. I ordered a lager and had to ask for ice-cubes as the beer was almost hand warm.
An utterly unpleasant experience.

223 snowcrash  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:21:29pm

re: #205 DEZes
Hi DEZ, bummer about the extra work but just in time for beer puns. lol

224 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:22:13pm

re: #220 DEZes

what ales you now?

I'm gonna call the porter to come haul your tail outta here!

225 callahan23  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:22:19pm

re: #217 doppelganglander

How odd. A bunch of the most recent posts are appearing double for me.

A page refresh usually does the clean-up trick.
;-)

226 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:22:19pm

re: #200 DEZes

Germans drink beer warm or at room temp., or am I mistaken?

Germany consists of +- 50% Muslims and beer drinking is way down.

227 Equable  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:22:22pm

re: #220 DEZes

Let's get the amount of beer puns added to the Guinness Book...

Get it? Guinness?

*Price Is Right loser horns*

228 Racer X  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:22:38pm

Kurt Rambis - new head coach of the minnesota Timberwolves!

Way to go Kurt! Good luck (except when facing the Lakers)!

229 VegasRick  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:23:13pm

re: #221 HoosierHoops

Hiya! First day back from a week off..So it's been a hard days night today...
The best thing in the world is going on vacation...The worst thing is coming home and setting the Alarm Clock..*wink*

Me too. Over 500 e-mails to respond to. Had fun though.

230 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:23:23pm

re: #223 snowcrash

Hi DEZ, bummer about the extra work but just in time for beer puns. lol

Not all is lost, I have a back up copy, but it is a bit dated.
I know to do backups, but sometimes my head is in a deep dark place. ;)

231 Neutral President  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:24:02pm

Wow, 230 comments into a Eurabia thread and no meltdowns or flounces.

232 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:24:22pm

re: #205 DEZes

I am well, but a lightning strike corrupted 3 days of work. :(
How ya doing Hoops?

Ouch.

233 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:25:32pm

re: #227 Equable

Let's get the amount of beer puns added to the Guinness Book...

Get it? Guinness?

*Price Is Right loser horns*

I knew this could brew into a storm.

234 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:25:33pm

re: #230 DEZes

Hi DEZes. I've been saving this for you. It almost has your name on it.

235 itellu3times  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:25:33pm

re: #204 sattv4u2

It;s not limited to "devout muslims" In most inner cities in this country there are places even the cops don't go into due to Mexican/ Crips/ Bloods etc gangs. The residents there are literally held hostage afraid to venture out, and worse, afraid to call the police when they see anything bad going down

I believe that's a bit of an overstatement.

There's places where the police go carefully and in force, but to the best of my knowledge we have few if any deals like they have in London and outside of Paris, where the police don't go at all.

Yes there are bad neighborhoods where police patrols don't free the citizens from fear of walking the streets. Public spaces and parks in most urban areas are often given over to crime, especially after dark. They are making some efforts here in Los Angeles to recover places like Macarthur Park for the citizens, to improve the urban environment, but that's another story.

236 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:26:06pm

re: #219 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And now we're ALL getting bock to what's important in these threads.

Whenever I drink beer, I P A lot...

237 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:26:29pm

re: #234 wrenchwench

Hi DEZes. I've been saving this for you. It almost has your name on it.

LMAO, I needed that.

238 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:26:33pm

re: #228 Racer X

Kurt Rambis - new head coach of the minnesota Timberwolves!

Way to go Kurt! Good luck (except when facing the Lakers)!

And the Celtics

ODD ,, Rambis was hired by and to replace McHale with their history?

239 Equable  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:27:00pm

re: #233 DEZes

I knew this could brew into a storm.

Well when Busch comes to shove, I'll provide quite the stout opposition.

240 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:27:41pm

re: #224 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'm gonna call the porter to come haul your tail outta here!

I'll tap you upside the head.

241 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:28:40pm

Some of the nice Freeper folk are discussing how to resist the US Army when Zero sends it to, well, whatever it is the Feds intend to have the army do to us.

What Good Can a Handgun do Against an Army...?

242 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:28:50pm

re: #235 itellu3times

There's places where the police go carefully and in force, but to the best of my knowledge we have few if any deals like they have in London and outside of Paris, where the police don't go at all.

Devil's advocate here.

Remember the L.A. riots? The police chief (Darryl Gates, IIRC) pulled his people out of the riot area.

When the residents and business owners saw that they were getting no help from the cops, they took to the streets in force.

243 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:28:54pm

re: #230 DEZes

Not all is lost, I have a back up copy, but it is a bit dated.
I know to do backups, but sometimes my head is in a deep dark place. ;)

Just a thought for you.

I have a second physical hard drive, and a macro in Word, in which I do most of my work. The macro does a [File] [Save] to the C: drive, and then a file/copy/overwrite to a directory on the D: drive. It's saved me twice when drives have gone out (though none to something as severe as a lighting strike.)

244 Neutral President  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:28:58pm

re: #235 itellu3times

They are making some efforts here in Los Angeles to recover places like Macarthur Park for the citizens, to improve the urban environment, but that's another story.

Oh NOES! Where are all the illegal aliens nannies for limousine liberals on the West Side going to commit identity fraud get work documents.

245 Equable  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:29:23pm

re: #240 DEZes

Hey hey, don't let this bubble over into a mugging.

246 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:29:38pm

re: #235 itellu3times

I believe that's a bit of an overstatement

I should have added IN FORCE. I know cops in Boston, New York, Atlanta and a few other 'hot spot" cities. A patrol car (manned by 1 or 2 cops) will NOT go into certain areas on 1st call until there is sufficient (read at least 4 other teams) backup

247 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:29:43pm

re: #239 Equable

Well when Busch comes to shove, I'll provide quite the stout opposition.

Why did my girl friend slap me when I said Anheuser-Busch?

248 Digital Display  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:29:53pm

re: #228 Racer X

Kurt Rambis - new head coach of the minnesota Timberwolves!

Way to go Kurt! Good luck (except when facing the Lakers)!

Hey RacerX! The Lakers! *wink* still love ya but the Lakers?
My favorite teams...Golden State.. Celtics..Pacers..And anyone playing the Lakers..
Don't you think it's really cool that when they lose Jack Nickelson is probably drinking Vodka for breakfast sitting at his table in an open robe staring out the window completely heartbroken about LA...
It doesn't get any better than that! LOL

249 Equable  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:30:11pm

re: #247 DEZes

Why did my girl friend slap me when I said Anheuser-Busch?

... I'll tell you why, she's a smart girl. ;-)

250 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:30:32pm

re: #243 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Just a thought for you.

I have a second physical hard drive, and a macro in Word, in which I do most of my work. The macro does a [File] [Save] to the C: drive, and then a file/copy/overwrite to a directory on the D: drive. It's saved me twice when drives have gone out (though none to something as severe as a lighting strike.)

Tis a thought, thanks.

251 Neutral President  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:30:51pm

re: #247 DEZes

Why did my girl friend slap me when I said Anheuser-Busch?

Just blame Busch for everything. It will get you in all the parties.

252 Racer X  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:31:19pm

re: #238 sattv4u2

And the Celtics

ODD ,, Rambis was hired by and to replace McHale with their history?

Yes Kurt and McHale have history.

I hate dislike the Celtics.

253 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:32:01pm

re: #29 Charles

But the video doesn't just rely on statistics, it also uses an official Government statement. It quotes it as saying: "The fall in German population can no longer be stopped.

Boy does that statement ever ignore hormones and human nature.

254 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:32:08pm

re: #247 DEZes

Why did my girl friend slap me when I said Anheuser-Busch?

I don't know. Alaska.

Oh, and good news. The Tsunami Warning has been cancelled for the Indian Ocean:

[Link: www.prh.noaa.gov...]

255 Racer X  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:32:46pm

re: #248 HoosierHoops

LOL!

Its a good thing they hardly ever lose!

;-)

256 Dar ul Harbarian  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:33:17pm

Someone fill me in on what the “Muslim Demographics” says, please.

I have too much of a life to watch it.

257 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:33:27pm

re: #252 Racer X

Yes Kurt and McHale have history.

I hate dislike the Celtics.

No problem.

I hate dislike the Lakers

258 haakondahl  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:33:45pm

re: #206 callahan23

Nope that was the Brits a few decades back. But even they have learned for the most part.

The government was rationing refrigeration.

259 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:34:15pm

re: #251 ArchangelMichael

Just blame Busch for everything. It will get you in all the parties.

But I can barley put up with the all the keg heads.

260 haakondahl  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:34:42pm

re: #253 Ojoe

Boy does that statement ever ignore hormones and human nature.

Hand out safety razors; it'll come back.

261 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:34:47pm

re: #250 DEZes

Tis a thought, thanks.

I figure it'll work with any software which the user can write macros for. When I do a full backup, I then go in and manually empty out the D:Backup directory, clearing it for the next run.

Come to think of it, I'm now keeping time sheets for work I do for clients in Excel. Hmmm. I oughta get in there and do a macro for it too.

262 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:34:50pm

re: #253 Ojoe

And Minister Merkel gets into the campaign herself ...

Merkel !

263 haakondahl  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:35:27pm

re: #257 sattv4u2

No problem.

I hate dislike the Lakers

That's okay.

I dislike hate basketball.

264 callahan23  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:35:41pm

re: #251 ArchangelMichael

Just blame Busch for everything. It will get you in all the parties.

Not quite the parties I'd prefer. Concernment gobbledegook and Michael Moore falsehoods are the best recipe to to get me heading for the door.

265 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:35:43pm

re: #253 Ojoe

Boy does that statement ever ignore hormones and human nature.

Then how do you explain France?

266 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:35:53pm

re: #263 haakondahl

That's okay.

I dislike hate basketball.

Too bad. It always speaks well of you !

267 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:36:25pm

re: #256 Dar ul Harbarian

Someone fill me in on what the “Muslim Demographics” says, please.

I have too much of a life to watch it.

It's Chicken Little screaming its head off.
Ignore it.

268 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:36:31pm

re: #256 Dar ul Harbarian

Someone fill me in on what the “Muslim Demographics” says, please.

I have too much of a life to watch it.

Breeding hordes of homicidal maniacs...blah,blah,blah...destroying our way of and instituting Shari'a next Tuesday...blah,blah,blah...making us pitch the bangers and mash and forcing us to eat falafel...

You know, the usual racist shit.

269 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:36:34pm

re: #258 haakondahl

The government was rationing refrigeration.

By selling everyone Lucas refrigerators.

(MG owners will get that one.)

270 haakondahl  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:36:48pm

re: #266 sattv4u2

Too bad. It always speaks well of you !

And well it should.

271 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:37:03pm

re: #265 victor_yugo

They must be stupid then.

272 haakondahl  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:37:09pm

re: #269 victor_yugo

By selling everyone Lucas refrigerators.

(MG owners will get that one.)

I had a Jaguar.

273 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:37:16pm

re: #246 sattv4u2

I believe that's a bit of an overstatement

I should have added IN FORCE. I know cops in Boston, New York, Atlanta and a few other 'hot spot" cities. A patrol car (manned by 1 or 2 cops) will NOT go into certain areas on 1st call until there is sufficient (read at least 4 other teams) backup

Fortunately Seattle doesn't have any such areas. The problem we do have is in certain neighborhoods the residents and their associated civic groups get grumpy about active enforcement. Like asking a group of teens what they are doing in an alley at 3:00am. And the city won't back the cops up on preventive measures like active enforcement. So those areas receive only reactive enforcement.

A step on the path to such "no go" areas.

274 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:37:55pm

re: #269 victor_yugo

By selling everyone Lucas refrigerators.

(MG owners will get that one.)

God, Lucas grounding straps. The Prince of Darkness...

275 haakondahl  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:38:07pm

re: #268 austin_blue

Breeding hordes of homicidal maniacs...blah,blah,blah...destroying our way of and instituting Shari'a next Tuesday...blah,blah,blah...making us pitch the bangers and mash and forcing us to eat falafel...

You know, the usual racist shit.

Making them chill the beer and cook the steak.

276 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:38:19pm

OT - On the WSJ site Breaking News: House leaders said they will drop $550 million in funding to buy eight Air Force passenger planes for top officials' use.

/And they were getting such a good deal after they depressed the market for those planes by bitching about the CEOs using them.

277 tradewind  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:38:33pm

re: #20 Killgore Trout

The Brits have waved the white burka anyway... they know they're demographic toast, and they're just hoping to land jelly side up.

278 Digital Display  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:38:52pm

re: #257 sattv4u2

No problem.

I hate dislike the Lakers

I scored 4 killer tiks to the Lakers game the night Dale Earnhart died at Daytona.. They made the announcement at halftime..Surreal...so many people crying...I'll never forget the crowd reaction...
I'll never forget that Laker Game...

279 Neutral President  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:38:54pm

re: #269 victor_yugo

By selling everyone Lucas refrigerators.

(MG owners will get that one.)

Triumph owners too. Lucas is the devil.

280 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:39:45pm

re: #274 austin_blue

God, Lucas grounding straps. The Prince of Darkness...

Off, dim, flicker...

281 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:40:40pm
282 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:41:15pm

re: #279 ArchangelMichael

A buddy of mine was riding his Velocette MC in the desert at night, at speed, and the Lucas electrics failed and the headlamp went out.

It was very dark he said.

283 callahan23  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:41:15pm

re: #262 Ojoe

And Minister Merkel gets into the campaign herself ...

Merkel !

She and another politician of the same party are very 'close'. Merkel and Lengsfeld "We've got more to offer" is the slogan btw.

284 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:41:25pm

re: #268 austin_blue

...forcing us to eat falafel...

TYRANNY!

285 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:41:37pm

Out for the night. Stuff to do before tomorrow.
Everyone have a good one!

/and I'm sure the thread will tankard when I leave

*running like hell*

286 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:42:09pm

re: #278 HoosierHoops

I scored 4 killer tiks to the Lakers game the night Dale Earnhart died at Daytona.. They made the announcement at halftime..Surreal...so many people crying...I'll never forget the crowd reaction...
I'll never forget that Laker Game...

I still hate them!
/

287 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:42:15pm

re: #283 callahan23

ROFLMAO

288 itellu3times  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:42:24pm

re: #242 victor_yugo

Devil's advocate here.

Remember the L.A. riots? The police chief (Darryl Gates, IIRC) pulled his people out of the riot area.

When the residents and business owners saw that they were getting no help from the cops, they took to the streets in force.

Yes, but that's the last (and maybe first) LA police chief who made that a policy, even a temporary one.

April 26th, 1992
There was a riot on the streets
Tell me where were you?
You were sittin' home watchin' your TV
While I was participating in some anarchy
First spot we hit it was my liquor store
I finally got all that alcohol I can't afford
With red lights flashin', time to retire
And then we turned that liquor store into a structure fire
Next stop we hit, it was the music shop,
It only took one brick to make that window drop
Finally we got our own P.A.
Where do you think I got this guitar that you're hearing today?

289 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:42:28pm

re: #280 victor_yugo

Off, dim, flicker...

Want to beep the horn? Push in the cigarette lighter.

Every Leyland vehicle a certifiable schizophrenic!

I loved my old MG Midget, but have mercy, it got to be a joke with the electrics.

290 Neutral President  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:42:41pm

re: #282 Ojoe

A buddy of mine was riding his Velocette MC in the desert at night, at speed, and the Lucas electrics failed and the headlamp went out.

It was very dark he said.

Even when the electronics are working, you'd probably be better of strapping a maglite on the front than relying on the headlight. A match would be brighter.

291 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:43:10pm

re: #276 CyanSnowHawk

OT - On the WSJ site Breaking News: House leaders said they will drop $550 million in funding to buy eight Air Force passenger planes for top officials' use.

/And they were getting such a good deal after they depressed the market for those planes by bitching about the CEOs using them.

This will be spun as $550 million of belt-tightening!

292 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:43:40pm

re: #283 callahan23

She and another politician of the same party are very 'close'. Merkel and Lengsfeld "We've got more to offer" is the slogan btw.

Watch out for Ojoe, he'll do anything to turn a thread to boobs!

//;-P

*wink* Hi Ojoe!

293 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:43:59pm

re: #283 callahan23

She and another politician of the same party are very 'close'. Merkel and Lengsfeld "We've got more to offer" is the slogan btw.

MY EYES!!!

294 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:44:10pm

re: #285 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Out for the night. Stuff to do before tomorrow.
Everyone have a good one!

/and I'm sure the thread will tankard when I leave

*running like hell*



Later, matey.

295 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:44:28pm

re: #292 jcm

Well you must admit they are a force for good now.

296 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:44:57pm

re: #281 buzzsawmonkey

Getting back to the thread topic, if the Muslim inundation in Europe is a hoax it might be well to reflect that there have been mentions that the allegedly exploding population of "Palestinians" in the territories has been exaggerated by manipulation of statistics.

Which is not to say that they don't have a high birthrate, subsidized as it is by international welfare. But if the international welfare could be cut off, or at least decreased, that problem would probably recede also.

The single largest predictor of family size in the West is income and education (outside of Utah and that is *not* meant as a slam). Do those stats hold elsewhere?

297 Ojoe  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:45:08pm

re: #292 jcm

Yes, and Hi back to you!

298 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:45:49pm

re: #291 debutaunt

This will be spun as $550 million of belt-tightening sacrifice we're making in these difficult economic times created by the failures of the past administrations!

299 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:46:08pm

re: #295 Ojoe

Well you must admit they are a force for good now.

LOL!
True dat!

300 Digital Display  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:46:36pm

re: #286 sattv4u2

I still hate them!
/

I do too...Lawdy...Shaq is just HUGE in person...And Handsome in a manly way..
Kobe is so smooth...And he is really fast in person..No wonder he jukes everybody...And I haven't seen such a sweet crossover since Hardaway in his prime...
The Lakers lost by one point...Does it get any better? 4 free tickets! yoo-hoo!

301 jmac1492  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:47:09pm

re: #296 austin_blue

Birthrates are slowing in more industrialized areas of India. (Also of China, but they're an outlier, to put it mildly.)

302 yochanan  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:47:27pm

There was a Jerusalem before there was a New York. When Berlin, Moscow, London and Paris were forest and swamp, there was a thriving Jewish community here. It gave something to the world which you nations have rejected ever since you established yourselves - a humane moral code.

Here the prophets walked, their words flashing like forked lightning. Here a people who wanted nothing more than to be left alone, fought off waves of heathen would-be conquerors, bled and died on the battlements, hurled themselves into the flames of their burning Temple rather than surrender; and when finally overwhelmed by sheer numbers and led away into captivity, swore that before they forgot Jerusalem, they would see their tongues cleave to their palates, their right arms wither.

For two pain-filled millennia, while we were your unwelcome guests, we prayed daily to return to this city. Three times a day we petitioned the Almighty: "Gather us from the four corners of the world, bring us upright to our land; return in mercy to Jerusalem, Thy city, and dwell in it as Thou promised."

Jerusalem united and whole. and the CAPITAL OF ISRAEL message to the state dept. and american presidents if you can't accept Jerusalem as the capital of Israel your an anti semite.

303 VegasRick  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:47:31pm

re: #298 sattv4u2

8 years satt! You gotta mention 8 years!

304 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:47:39pm

I remember this video from months ago. Glad to see that it finally faced some popular scrutiny.

Looked like bullshit, paranoid, propaganda the moment I set eyes on it.

305 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:48:20pm

Anyone seen Lgops lately?

306 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:48:52pm

re: #300 HoosierHoops

I do too...Lawdy...Shaq is just HUGE in person...And Handsome in a manly way..
Kobe is so smooth...And he is really fast in person..No wonder he jukes everybody...And I haven't seen such a sweet crossover since Hardaway in his prime...
The Lakers lost by one point...Does it get any better? 4 free tickets! yoo-hoo!

who was that Dutch kid that played for the Pacers a while back...7-4?...there was a Tallboy right there

307 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:49:07pm

re: #81 DaddyG

Everyone klnows that the Mormons and Catholics will take over the world through selective breeding. There can only be one!/

Aha, but you overlooked that one!

Most Jews do not breed even at the replacement level. Whereas, Alouette has 9 kids and those 9 kids are breeding their heads off. With our superior intellect and Zionist secret powers, we will control the world!

Heh.

308 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:49:25pm

re: #305 DEZes

Anyone seen Lgops lately?

I think I saw 'em this morning...

309 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:49:26pm

re: #305 DEZes

Anyone seen Lgops lately?

See #72.

310 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:49:40pm
311 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:50:03pm

re: #308 jcm

I think I saw 'em this morning...

re: #309 wrenchwench

See #72.

Thanks.

312 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:50:10pm

If I may, I want to suggest that liberals, moderates and rational conservatives at least consider arming themselves, if they haven't already.
The wing-nuts are working themselves into a frothing rage of ODS and their self-declared, if non-existent, monopoly on firearms proficiency plays a big role in this. I've been reading Free Republic and similar boards and blogs for 10 years now and I have never seen anything like the kind of violent rhetoric that is going up now.
Remember, too, that the hoarding of guns and ammunition has been going on at a phenomenol rate since Obama's inauguration and shows no sign of abating. It isn't the local deer hunters or left-over hippies who are doing this either.

313 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:50:23pm

re: #310 buzzsawmonkey

Up to a point. There were a number of Catholic doctors in my neighborhood when I grew up who had 8 or 10 kids, and they were certainly educated.

Plenty of Orthodox Jewish families have large numbers of children, too.

Jamaican fathers are renoundly prolific

314 callahan23  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:50:48pm

re: #305 DEZes

Anyone seen Lgops lately?

He was on the last thread and left to do some chores. He is save 'n sound as far as I could see.

315 Digital Display  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:50:58pm

re: #306 albusteve

who was that Dutch kid that played for the Pacers a while back...7-4?...there was a Tallboy right there

Rik Smits..I had lunch with him one sunny day in Indy 5 years back...Great guy..Lousy feet

316 ArmyWife  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:51:38pm

re: #312 Shiplord Kirel

No worries. I'm one of those horders. I've got y'alls back.

;)

317 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:51:41pm

re: #307 Alouette

Aha, but you overlooked that one!

Most Jews do not breed even at the replacement level. Whereas, Alouette has 9 kids and those 9 kids are breeding their heads off. With our superior intellect and Zionist secret powers, we will control the world!

Heh.

Psst...

The zionist cabal already controls the world!

You can stop now...

/// ;-)

Congrats on a quiver full!

318 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:52:41pm

re: #314 callahan23

He was on the last thread and left to do some chores. He is save 'n sound as far as I could see.

I have been kinda scarce the last few days myself, just realized I hadn't seen him/her lately.

319 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:53:24pm

re: #315 HoosierHoops

Rik Smits..I had lunch with him one sunny day in Indy 5 years back...Great guy..Lousy feet

Rik...I can never remember his name, yes a very friendly sort...he let my boy shag balls for him at the Palace one time...

320 BignJames  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:53:25pm

re: #290 ArchangelMichael

Even when the electronics are working, you'd probably be better of strapping a maglite on the front than relying on the headlight. A match would be brighter.


Lucas...magneto

321 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:53:49pm

re: #316 ArmyWife

No worries. I'm one of those horders. I've got y'alls back.

;)

Thanks, AW, but any kook who tries to harm me for, say, my public support of evolutionary theory is going to get an introduction to two of my best friends, Mr. Mossberg and Comrade Kalashnikov.

322 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:54:43pm

Mehsud killed while getting 'leg massage':

Taliban chief Baitullah Mehsud was killed last week in a CIA drone attack while getting a leg massage on the roof of his father-in-law's house, CNN said Monday, citing an unnamed US official.


Add to the famous last words list...

A little higher, a little higher... that's i...

323 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:54:44pm

re: #317 jcm

Psst...

The zionist cabal already controls the world!

You can stop now...

/// ;-)

Congrats on a quiver full!

We will control the Zionist cabal!

/Planning ahead.

324 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:54:51pm

re: #321 Shiplord Kirel

Thanks, AW, but any kook who tries to harm me for, say, my public support of evolutionary theory is going to get an introduction to two of my best friends, Mr. Mossberg and Comrade Kalashnikov.

Nothing like a good blaster at your side.

325 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:55:13pm

re: #322 jcm

Mehsud killed while getting 'leg massage':


Add to the famous last words list...

A little higher, a little higher... that's i...

groaner

326 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:55:17pm

re: #323 Alouette

We will control the Zionist cabal!

/Planning ahead.

ROFL!

327 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:56:14pm

It's been a fun day lizards, now off for a good dinner at Anthony's Fish Grotto Harborside.

328 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:56:24pm
329 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:56:25pm

re: #325 albusteve

groaner

Okay, okay so report me to flag@whitehouse.gov, I'm a critic government interference in a person right to a leg massage.

330 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:57:08pm

re: #310 buzzsawmonkey

Up to a point. There were a number of Catholic doctors in my neighborhood when I grew up who had 8 or 10 kids, and they were certainly educated.

Plenty of Orthodox Jewish families have large numbers of children, too.

Hey, I'm the oldest of five and a retired mackerel snapper. But my four sibs and I have a total of ten kids- replacement value only.

331 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:57:19pm

re: #328 buzzsawmonkey

Doorman, call me a cabal!

I has cabal inturnets.

332 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:57:29pm

re: #329 jcm

Okay, okay so report me to flag@whitehouse.gov, I'm a critic government interference in a person right to a leg massage.

the Joke Nazis are out this afternoon

333 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:57:55pm

re: #327 CyanSnowHawk

It's been a fun day lizards, now off for a good dinner at Anthony's Fish Grotto Harborside.

A sudden attack of jealousy prevents an upding.

Seafood in the desert doesn't just suck, it can kill ya.

334 itellu3times  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:57:56pm

re: #329 jcm

Okay, okay so report me to flag@whitehouse.gov, I'm a critic government interference in a person right to a leg massage.

And so Obamacare will deal with anyone soliciting a treatment not on the approved list.

335 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:59:14pm

re: #328 buzzsawmonkey

Doorman, call me a cabal!

Doorman: "Okay, you're a cabal."

336 Digital Display  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:59:39pm

re: #319 albusteve

Rik...I can never remember his name, yes a very friendly sort...he let my boy shag balls for him at the Palace one time...

That is great! what a wonderful memory...
Rik is a great guy..But I have been known to be very critical of his play in the past...But poor Rik. All big men have feet issues...I mean that much weight running and jumping against the world's best Athletes just destroys the foot..
Re: his game...If I was a coach and everytime he took a 3 point shot I'd fine him 10grand...You are 7'fringing 4 inches tall.. If you don't control the lane get the hell off my team! I'm terrible...

337 austin_blue  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 4:59:47pm

BBIAB. Gotta deliver some 'hood Newsletters.

338 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:00:09pm
339 Racer X  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:00:17pm

re: #333 wrenchwench

A sudden attack of jealousy prevents an upding.

Seafood in the desert doesn't just suck, it can kill ya.

I maintain a '100 mile rule'. Except for Vegas - they fly it in fresh.

340 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:00:31pm

re: #333 wrenchwench

A sudden attack of jealousy prevents an upding.

Seafood in the desert doesn't just suck, it can kill ya.

there's a Red Lobster down the street...actually try Pelican's

341 Racer X  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:01:00pm

re: #338 buzzsawmonkey

Anybody here have cabal TV?

No, I only have my old set with the Jihadi ears on top.

342 BignJames  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:01:12pm

re: #338 buzzsawmonkey

Anybody here have cabal TV?


Sat alight.

343 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:01:49pm
344 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:02:17pm

re: #340 albusteve

there's a Red Lobster down the street...actually try Pelican's

There's none of that here in the boonies. The salmon at Albertson's looks like it spent the last few days on a dock somewhere. Probably a loading dock.

345 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:02:24pm

re: #343 buzzsawmonkey

That sounds painful. Spontaneous combustion?

Cures the asteroids.

346 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:03:03pm

Awe, maybe no Gulfstreams for the congresscreeps.

347 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:03:07pm

re: #336 HoosierHoops

That is great! what a wonderful memory...
Rik is a great guy..But I have been known to be very critical of his play in the past...But poor Rik. All big men have feet issues...I mean that much weight running and jumping against the world's best Athletes just destroys the foot..
Re: his game...If I was a coach and everytime he took a 3 point shot I'd fine him 10grand...You are 7'fringing 4 inches tall.. If you don't control the lane get the hell off my team! I'm terrible...

he played hard, all the time...that's what I liked about him, pretty much a journeyman otherwise...I don't really remember much of a post game tho, kind of a shooter, that's what your sayin

348 callahan23  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:04:00pm

re: #346 Gus 802

Holá, compadre. Como estas?

349 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:04:05pm

re: #344 wrenchwench

There's none of that here in the boonies. The salmon at Albertson's looks like it spent the last few days on a dock somewhere. Probably a loading dock.

out in the sun in Las Cruces...haha!...have a taco

350 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:04:12pm

re: #345 DEZes

Cures the asteroids.

Is that near the Donut Shaped Nebula?

351 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:04:56pm

re: #350 Gus 802

Is that near the Donut Shaped Nebula?

Just stay way from the black hole.

352 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:05:07pm

re: #348 callahan23

Holá, compadre. Como estas?

Oh, getting over a cold/flu, coughing, broke, no work, stupid little car problems, etc. Other than that I'm OK I guess.

Yourself?

353 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:05:30pm

re: #349 albusteve

out in the sun in Las Cruces...haha!...have a taco

I guess we have our compensations. On Saturday we made Chile Rellenos from chiles we picked in the front yard.

354 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:05:35pm

re: #346 Gus 802

Awe, maybe no Gulfstreams for the congresscreeps.

I propose an amendment.

Congress critters are required by law to fly coach... on standby.

355 BignJames  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:05:47pm

re: #343 buzzsawmonkey

That sounds painful. Spontaneous combustion?


Remember desert boots? When I was a teen, I wore them sans socks. One day I was cruising down the road in my sporty new Vega, and I dropped my lit cigarette...into my right desert boot...that was painful.

356 Bear  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:05:50pm

re: #344 wrenchwench

And probably farmed salmon died red to look as if it was the real thing.

357 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:06:40pm

re: #354 jcm

I propose an amendment.

Congress critters are required by law to fly coach... on standby.

Cant we strap them to the wings?

358 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:06:48pm

re: #354 jcm

I propose an amendment.

Congress critters are required by law to fly coach... on standby.

You have my co-sponsorship! :)

359 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:06:52pm
360 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:07:44pm
361 BignJames  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:08:05pm

re: #359 buzzsawmonkey

Omigod, desert boots. Suede and crepe soles that went to hell fifteen seconds after you put them on.

But they were comfy while they lasted.

362 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:08:07pm

re: #353 wrenchwench

I guess we have our compensations. On Saturday we made Chile Rellenos from chiles we picked in the front yard.

well there you go...folks in Illinois would probably kill for those

363 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:08:24pm

re: #360 buzzsawmonkey

Sometimes I feel like a motherless chile.

Pepper up man.

364 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:08:34pm

re: #357 DEZes

Cant we strap them to the wings?

Between altering the air flow of the wings, and the hot air emanating from said strap-ees, it wouldn't be a good idea.

365 brookly red  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:09:10pm

re: #346 Gus 802

Awe, maybe no Gulfstreams for the congresscreeps.

well if congress has to fly coach I would have a lot more confidence in airport security... juss sayin

366 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:09:21pm

re: #356 Bear

And probably farmed salmon died red to look as if it was the real thing.

I won't even look at that stuff. It's wild-caught or nothing. I'd rather have canned Alaska salmon than "fresh" Atlantic color-added stuff. I used to live in the Northwest, so I'm spoiled.

(A Bear would know!)

367 Silvergirl  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:09:26pm

re: #359 buzzsawmonkey

Omigod, desert boots. Suede and crepe soles that went to hell fifteen seconds after you put them on.

But that's when they looked cool.

A lit cigarette in one--ouch--and not easy to dump out of a desert boot. That's a scorcher, BignJames.

368 callahan23  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:09:27pm

re: #352 Gus 802

Oh, getting over a cold/flu, coughing, broke, no work, stupid little car problems, etc. Other than that I'm OK I guess.

Yourself?

Well, I guess. Not broke but earning only a penny which is why the work begins to suck.
Building up new social bonds away from the friends of my wife. Lots a work, highly rewarding.
I hope you'll find something soon.

369 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:09:32pm

re: #360 buzzsawmonkey

Sometimes I feel like a motherless chile.

sorry...red or green?

370 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:09:48pm

re: #364 victor_yugo

Between altering the air flow of the wings, and the hot air emanating from said strap-ees, it wouldn't be a good idea.

Hmm, maybe it would be better to strap them on top of the wings? /

371 jorline  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:09:58pm

Viagra ice cream to go on sale at Selfridges

Entitled The Sex Pistol, this bespoke creation is served as an ice cream cocktail and is packed with libido-boosting ingredients such as ginkgo, biloba, arginine and guarana. It’s served with a shot of the highly intoxicating La Fee Absinthe and is guaranteed to get your blood pumping. Customers are limited to one serving per person.

If your "ice cream cocktail" (snicker) is still hard after four hours contact your doctor immediately.

chilll

372 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:10:07pm

re: #364 victor_yugo

Between altering the air flow of the wings, and the hot air emanating from said strap-ees, it wouldn't be a good idea.

The air flow would be an issue for sure, but the hot air would eliminate many icing problems.

373 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:10:44pm
374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:10:46pm

re: #3 RightOnTheLeftCoast

87.6% of statistics are made up on the spot.

hey! that's mine!

375 Digital Display  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:11:12pm

re: #347 albusteve

he played hard, all the time...that's what I liked about him, pretty much a journeyman otherwise...I don't really remember much of a post game tho, kind of a shooter, that's what your sayin

I won't trash him..I didn't like the game plan that played a 7 foot 4 inch center as a wingman...If a 7 footer can't post then why bother? I'd take a Power forward over that...Which is what they did by Playing Dale Davis as the post man...I prefer Shooting guards shooting from downtown.. Not my Center...
Hope you are well tonight Steve

376 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:11:19pm

re: #372 DEZes

The air flow would be an issue for sure, but the hot air would eliminate many icing problems.

No more need for de-icing boots!

377 Silvergirl  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:12:16pm

Desert boots . . .

fringed moccasins are back now. I saw them in the back-to-school catalogs.

378 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:12:49pm

re: #375 HoosierHoops

I won't trash him..I didn't like the game plan that played a 7 foot 4 inch center as a wingman...If a 7 footer can't post then why bother? I'd take a Power forward over that...Which is what they did by Playing Dale Davis as the post man...I prefer Shooting guards shooting from downtown.. Not my Center...
Hope you are well tonight Steve

I'm jolly all over again...comes and goes, and the same to you

379 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:13:01pm

re: #370 Gus 802

Hmm, maybe it would be better to strap them on top of the wings? /

Maybe we already have a solution of getting congress critters delivered home...

380 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:13:06pm
381 jorline  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:13:42pm

re: #373 buzzsawmonkey

The self-ridges are for extra pleasure.

lubed and ribbed

382 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:14:28pm
383 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:14:32pm

re: #381 jorline

lubed and ribbed

Who wants some fucking ice cream?

Someone had to do it. ;)

384 yochanan  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:14:35pm

re: #302 yochanan

There was a Jerusalem before there was a New York. When Berlin, Moscow, London and Paris were forest and swamp, there was a thriving Jewish community here. It gave something to the world which you nations have rejected ever since you established yourselves - a humane moral code.

Here the prophets walked, their words flashing like forked lightning. Here a people who wanted nothing more than to be left alone, fought off waves of heathen would-be conquerors, bled and died on the battlements, hurled themselves into the flames of their burning Temple rather than surrender; and when finally overwhelmed by sheer numbers and led away into captivity, swore that before they forgot Jerusalem, they would see their tongues cleave to their palates, their right arms wither.

For two pain-filled millennia, while we were your unwelcome guests, we prayed daily to return to this city. Three times a day we petitioned the Almighty: "Gather us from the four corners of the world, bring us upright to our land; return in mercy to Jerusalem, Thy city, and dwell in it as Thou promised."

Jerusalem united and whole. and the CAPITAL OF ISRAEL message to the state dept. and american presidents if you can't accept Jerusalem as the capital of Israel your an anti semite.

[Link: www.answers.com...] to make a place free of jews aka judenfrei

385 BignJames  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:14:36pm

re: #377 Silvergirl

Desert boots . . .

fringed moccasins are back now. I saw them in the back-to-school catalogs.


Had a pair of them ,too...I was too cool for school...now I'm just an old fart.

386 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:14:57pm

re: #375 HoosierHoops

I won't trash him..I didn't like the game plan that played a 7 foot 4 inch center as a wingman...If a 7 footer can't post then why bother? I'd take a Power forward over that...Which is what they did by Playing Dale Davis as the post man...I prefer Shooting guards shooting from downtown.. Not my Center...
Hope you are well tonight Steve

and btw...the old Pistons did exactly that...Mahorn in the post and Laimbeer to rebound...it worked for them

387 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:15:16pm

re: #379 jcm

Maybe we already have a solution of getting congress critters delivered home...

There's always FedX or UPS. Crates-for-Congress.

//With breathing holes.

/

388 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:16:04pm

re: #387 Gus 802

There's always FedX or UPS. Crates-for-Congress.

//With breathing holes.

/

Crates for congress, now that's priceless.

389 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:16:39pm

re: #387 Gus 802

There's always FedX or UPS. Crates-for-Congress.

//With breathing holes.

/

Crates for Congress!

EXCELLENT!

390 Silvergirl  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:16:42pm

OT:

I linked this poll from AT&T and Yahoo on the front page.

Q. The president's progress with the battered economy has been both praised and criticized. How well are his efforts measuring up with you?

* Extremely well. We are undoubtedly moving in the right direction.
* Fairly well. There's still a long way to go.
* Not well at all. His plans are hurting more than helping.
* Not sure/No opinion.

Right now (at 2,229,819 votes) the third choice is running about 80%

391 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:16:48pm

re: #379 jcm

Maybe we already have a solution of getting congress critters delivered home...

too good for Congress...
[Link: www.freakingnews.com...]

392 tradewind  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:17:09pm

re: #373 buzzsawmonkey
Bet they aren't selling any soft serve...

393 jorline  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:17:17pm

re: #383 DEZes

Who wants some fucking ice cream?

Someone had to do it. ;)

lmao...

Well son, do you want to grow up selling fucking ice cream or be a soda jerk?

394 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:17:27pm

re: #388 DEZes

Crates for congress, now that's priceless.

re: #389 jcm

Crates for Congress!

EXCELLENT!

Thanks!

Our first test case...

Steny Hoyer

395 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:17:30pm
396 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:18:08pm

re: #393 jorline

lmao...

Well son, do you want to grow up selling fucking ice cream or be a soda jerk-off?

FTFY

397 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:18:16pm

re: #393 jorline

lmao...

Well son, do you want to grow up selling fucking ice cream or be a soda jerk?

Aw dad, get off it...

398 Silvergirl  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:19:00pm

re: #395 buzzsawmonkey

I don't know how you do it. *big grin*

399 yochanan  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:19:05pm

re: #327 CyanSnowHawk

sea kitteh yum

400 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:19:13pm

re: #394 Gus 802

Thanks!

Our first test case...

Steny Hoyer

Can we pay Fedex to mislabel his crate?

401 jorline  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:19:35pm

re: #396 victor_yugo

FTFY

I knew someone would finish it for me. :)

402 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:19:54pm

re: #400 jcm

Can we pay Fedex to mislabel his crate?

What makes you they would want paid?

403 victor_yugo  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:21:13pm

re: #401 jorline

I knew someone would finish it for me. :)

It's a happy ending for everyone.

404 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:21:16pm

re: #400 jcm

Can we pay Fedex to mislabel his crate?

Yeah, we could send old Steny to somewhere patriotic, like Liberia. ;)

405 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:21:27pm

re: #398 Silvergirl

I don't know how you do it. *big grin*

OTOH his mom still ties his shoes for him

406 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:21:55pm

Mr President, Air Crate One is ready for departure.

407 Capitalistincharge  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:22:01pm

Evening Gang: Just in from a long day and met neighbor at the Mail Box. We light chattered for a minute and she just outs "Isn't this Healthcare Bill horrible? I work in the Healthcare field and everyone I know is reading this thing." This woman is a die hard Liberal...we've agreed not to talk politics. After we discussed a bit we went to depart and her last words were "Margaret thinks he's a bad prophecy" (Margaret,her sister, is a Nun with a cool sense of humor). I laughed. Seems we can now talk politics.

408 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:22:02pm

re: #402 DEZes

What makes you they would want paid?

LOL!

Castaway...

Youtube Video
409 Silvergirl  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:22:12pm

re: #405 albusteve

OTOH his mom still ties his shoes for him

Desert boots or moccasins?

410 Digital Display  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:23:18pm

re: #386 albusteve

and btw...the old Pistons did exactly that...Mahorn in the post and Laimbeer to rebound...it worked for them

How many 3 point shots did Laimbeer take? Sorry I was talking offense and shot game plans...
I think if Mahorn touched the ball at games end Isaiah would have smacked him! ( and ran away at full speed)...
My theory is Big men should never shoot from the outside unless it is to draw the other teams big man out on D...Other than that.. I'd fine you 10 grand wether the ball goes in or not...If you are a 7 footer and can't post or control the lane get off my team! I can find any guard that shoots better..
/You'll note no Pro basketball team has hired me as a head coach...Amazing really...*wink*

411 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:23:26pm

re: #406 DEZes

Mr President, Air Crate One is ready for departure.

"If all goes as planned Mr. President we should see each other again within the next 24 hours." /

412 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:23:41pm

re: #408 jcm

LOL!

Castaway...


Now thats funny.

414 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:24:34pm

re: #411 Gus 802

"If all goes as planned Mr. President we should see each other again within the next 24 hours." /

Hope he likes a boxed lunch.

415 VegasRick  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:25:54pm

re: #390 Silvergirl

OT:

I linked this poll from AT&T and Yahoo on the front page.

Q. The president's progress with the battered economy has been both praised and criticized. How well are his efforts measuring up with you?

* Extremely well. We are undoubtedly moving in the right direction.
* Fairly well. There's still a long way to go.
* Not well at all. His plans are hurting more than helping.
* Not sure/No opinion.

Right now (at 2,229,819 votes) the third choice is running about 80%

I'm surprised that number is so low.

416 FrogMarch  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:26:56pm

Really? It’s Come To This? Socialist is Code for N Word.

I guess socialists are so afraid of actual words with actual meaning - we have to devolve our entire language.

417 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:27:14pm

re: #415 VegasRick

I'm surprised that number is so low.

I just helped his disapproval rating.
And I was honest.

418 Silvergirl  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:27:21pm

Be back later.

Kitchen duties--cast iron skillet, assorted mess. If only the 'battered economy' were as easily cleaned up as the battered fish.

419 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:27:35pm

re: #414 DEZes

Hope he likes a boxed lunch.

Tang, cheese crackers, and carrot sticks. //

420 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:28:28pm

re: #410 HoosierHoops

How many 3 point shots did Laimbeer take? Sorry I was talking offense and shot game plans...
I think if Mahorn touched the ball at games end Isaiah would have smacked him! ( and ran away at full speed)...
My theory is Big men should never shoot from the outside unless it is to draw the other teams big man out on D...Other than that.. I'd fine you 10 grand wether the ball goes in or not...If you are a 7 footer and can't post or control the lane get off my team! I can find any guard that shoots better..
/You'll note no Pro basketball team has hired me as a head coach...Amazing really...*wink*

Laimbeer was an excellent 3pt shooter...it was Mahorn that often banged in the paint...other than that it was James Edwards who was also a good shooter in the paint...the 89 Pistons did not really have a dominant inside big man...

421 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:28:32pm

Speaking of flight horrors...

Nightmare flight: Nine hours on runway

Regulations kept 47 passengers confined in a small ExpressJet airplane for nine hours at the Rochester airport.

Passenger Link Christin says the ordeal Friday was a nightmare. The flight left Houston, Texas about 9:30 p.m. and was scheduled to arrive in the Twin Cities by midnight. But the flight was diverted to Rochester because of thunderstorms.

ExpressJet spokeswoman Kristy Nicholas says by then, the flight crew had reached maximum work hours, so another crew had to be flown in. Nicholas says allowing passengers into the terminal wasn't possible because security screeners had gone home for the day.

422 DEZes  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:28:36pm

re: #419 Gus 802

Tang, cheese crackers, and carrot sticks. //

MRI'S.

423 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:29:17pm

re: #421 jcm

Speaking of flight horrors...

Nightmare flight: Nine hours on runway

U-n-i-o-n-s

424 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:29:44pm

re: #421 jcm

Speaking of flight horrors...

Nightmare flight: Nine hours on runway

albusteve would have been arrested most likely

425 freetoken  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:30:18pm

Speaking of hoaxes, I wonder how many people saw the DI's Klinghoffer's article from Sunday:

Charles Manson, Evolutionist

426 brookly red  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:30:42pm

re: #407 Capitalistincharge

Evening Gang: Just in from a long day and met neighbor at the Mail Box. We light chattered for a minute and she just outs "Isn't this Healthcare Bill horrible? I work in the Healthcare field and everyone I know is reading this thing." This woman is a die hard Liberal...we've agreed not to talk politics. After we discussed a bit we went to depart and her last words were "Margaret thinks he's a bad prophecy" (Margaret,her sister, is a Nun with a cool sense of humor). I laughed. Seems we can now talk politics.

It seems that there is not so much media coverage on how people in the healthcare biz feel... funny that.

427 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:30:59pm

Buzz can actually tie his shoes, if there is any confusion

428 VegasRick  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:31:09pm

re: #424 albusteve

albusteve would have been arrested most likely

That plane would have had a new door. Right next to where I was sitting.

429 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:31:17pm

re: #424 albusteve

albusteve would have been arrested most likely

I was thinking along the same lines...

If I don't get a clean restroom I'll EXPLODE!

430 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:32:27pm

re: #428 VegasRick

That plane would have had a new door. Right next to where I was sitting.

they have to have a plan...that's absurd

431 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:33:16pm

re: #429 jcm

I was thinking along the same lines...

If I don't get a clean restroom I'll EXPLODE!

Waste of Mass Profusion

432 callahan23  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:33:22pm

re: #428 VegasRick

That plane would have had a new door. Right next to where I was sitting.

ROTFLMAO, I can actually visualize that.

433 jorline  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:33:24pm

Chavez is the Muammar Kadafi of 2000.

Chavez claims Colombian troops entered Venezuela

Venezuela, along with many other Latin American nations, is incensed at a new agreement allowing the United States to use seven Colombian military bases.

"The Yankees are starting to command the Colombian Armed Forces; they are the ones who are in charge, who are in charge of these provocations, who make up huge lies," Chavez added.

Chavez made these claims on his weekly TV show "Hello President".

Can anyone say...Black helicopters!

434 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:33:49pm

re: #421 jcm

Speaking of flight horrors...

Nightmare flight: Nine hours on runway

Damn robot people. They didn't have to let them into the terminal. They could have at least worked with a contingency of sorts.

Here's their union...

[Link: www.twu.com...]

No surprises.

435 Digital Display  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:34:22pm

re: #420 albusteve

Laimbeer was an excellent 3pt shooter...it was Mahorn that often banged in the paint...other than that it was James Edwards who was also a good shooter in the paint...the 89 Pistons did not really have a dominant inside big man...

Very good points...I stand corrected...
/I'd still fine my big guy for shooting a 3 pointer...
I'd be a mean coach! LOL

436 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:38:03pm

re: #435 HoosierHoops

Very good points...I stand corrected...
/I'd still fine my big guy for shooting a 3 pointer...
I'd be a mean coach! LOL

Daly just let his guys play...it worked for him with that particular roster, mostly because the players were so unselfish...when asked about Xs and Os he was like DUH!...Thomas figures that stuff out...I think that was a primary reason why they were so much fun to watch...ten points behind with 8min?...you guys figure it out, you're the ones on the floor

437 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:38:30pm

re: #425 freetoken

Speaking of hoaxes, I wonder how many people saw the DI's Klinghoffer's article from Sunday:

Charles Manson, Evolutionist

Klinghoffer beclowns himself again.

438 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:40:26pm

re: #437 Charles

Klinghoffer beclowns himself again.

Beclowns!
2pts

439 Digital Display  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:42:29pm

re: #436 albusteve

Daly just let his guys play...it worked for him with that particular roster, mostly because the players were so unselfish...when asked about Xs and Os he was like DUH!...Thomas figures that stuff out...I think that was a primary reason why they were so much fun to watch...ten points behind with 8min?...you guys figure it out, you're the ones on the floor

I wonder if I would be considered one of the greatest coaches of all time If MJ or Magic or Bird was on my team...How do you coach greatness?
uhhh...Have fun today? Is everybody having fun? Remember...have fun out there!

440 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:43:58pm
441 jcm  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:44:17pm

re: #434 Gus 802

Damn robot people. They didn't have to let them into the terminal. They could have at least worked with a contingency of sorts.

Here's their union...

[Link: www.twu.com...]

No surprises.

One of the engineers I work with used to work for the Bonneville Power Administration, that runs the damns on the Columbia River.

He have to go make an adjustment on some equipment on a turbine. It would take 3 people. First guy was the mechanic who would undo the screws on the cover plate and remove it. Next the electrician would hook up the test equipment. He the engineer would determine what need to be done, and give instructions to the electrician.

This simple task would have to scheduled between the three shops. If one was busy they would go 'round and 'round trying to find a slot when all three were open.

If he'd been allowed to do all three things, the job would have taken 5 minutes.

442 callahan23  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:46:35pm

M' friends it is late on these shores.
Gals 'n guys, Lizards and 'menschen'.
See y'all down the road.
I love you (Lizardim} - mostly. Really!

443 albusteve  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:46:39pm

re: #439 HoosierHoops

I wonder if I would be considered one of the greatest coaches of all time If MJ or Magic or Bird was on my team...How do you coach greatness?
uhhh...Have fun today? Is everybody having fun? Remember...have fun out there!

Laimbeer, Thomas, Dumars were all ferocious competitors...I think Daly just let them play...those guys coached the rest of the team...Jackson and Tex on the other hand was a master manipulators...none better

444 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:47:17pm

re: #442 callahan23

M' friends it is late on these shores.
Gals 'n guys, Lizards and 'menschen'.
See y'all down the road.
I love you (Lizardim} - mostly. Really!

Later Callahan.

445 snowcrash  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:48:11pm

re: #442 callahan23
Bye Cal.

446 Gus  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 5:51:37pm

re: #441 jcm

One of the engineers I work with used to work for the Bonneville Power Administration, that runs the damns on the Columbia River.

He have to go make an adjustment on some equipment on a turbine. It would take 3 people. First guy was the mechanic who would undo the screws on the cover plate and remove it. Next the electrician would hook up the test equipment. He the engineer would determine what need to be done, and give instructions to the electrician.

This simple task would have to scheduled between the three shops. If one was busy they would go 'round and 'round trying to find a slot when all three were open.

If he'd been allowed to do all three things, the job would have taken 5 minutes.

"Job security" at work. The unions hide behind a veil of safety for these cases. Always claiming that they follow these procedures for safety. Of course they help write these procedures.

So you get a mechanic to turn the screws or bolts. An electrician to work on the wiring. And possibly a carpenter in case there's any wood de-construction involved. None of which involves anything too critical but it takes two to three times the manpower.

And that doesn't include the shop steward and supervisors involved.

447 LGoPs  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 6:23:23pm

re: #305 DEZes

Anyone seen Lgops lately?

I'm here my friend. Been out for a number of days but everything's fine.
Hope you are well and will talk to you later...
{DEZ}

448 tradewind  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 7:03:34pm

re: #53 quiet man

Well, there's the root cause of the problem...
///

449 American Sabra  Mon, Aug 10, 2009 7:50:37pm

re: #425 freetoken

Speaking of hoaxes, I wonder how many people saw the DI's Klinghoffer's article from Sunday:

Charles Manson, Evolutionist

Oh boy. Manson believed the Blacks would rise up and fight the Whites to the death. The Black Panthers would be the winner. That's what the killings were about. To do something so atrocious and blame Black people which would spark this giant race war. In the end, after the Panthers killed everyone, they'd have to come to Manson, hiding in the desert with his family, because they were too stupid to actually rule the world.

What chapter in Origin of Species was this covered? I missed it.

450 Green Helmet Guy  Tue, Aug 11, 2009 1:53:57am

The Clip is certainly "alarmist", and after watching the "Nazis" documentary it gave me the eerie feeling that people who want to:"save

our

children from the mongloroids." made the clip.

but

The BBC article does not take into account Illegal immigration. For example people in France know that there are many illegal immigrants from Africa (especially north Africa). While this variable may not double their figures it certainly would put them higher than those stated in the BBC article.

451 mrbaracuda  Tue, Aug 11, 2009 3:44:50am

re: #200 DEZes

Germans drink beer warm or at room temp., or am I mistaken?

PREPOSTEROUS!

452 greatdane  Tue, Aug 11, 2009 3:52:41am

Daily Telegraph:

Europe’s Muslim population has more than doubled in the past 30 years and will have doubled again by 2015. In Brussels, the top seven baby boys’ names recently were Mohamed, Adam, Rayan, Ayoub, Mehdi, Amine and Hamza.

453 jpkoch  Tue, Aug 11, 2009 6:08:50am

Funny, but just last week the Daily Telegraph published a story that predicts Muslims will reach 20% of the EU population by 2050. And in cities like Malmo, Brussels, London, and Amsterdam Muslims will be the majority.

An ethnic group doesn't have to be in the majority to effect control of society. As Mark Steyn points out quite often, at the height of Caliphate's power, Muslims were in the minority in many many areas (ie Western India, Spain, parts of North Africa, what is today Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, and even Afghanistan).

The average age of a Muslim in the EU is 19 years. For native Europeans it is 39. The good news is that many of the 2nd and 3rd generation Muslim females are not having near as many children as their parents and grand parents. The bad news is that the EU still allows for mass immigration in many areas. It is these families that average 4-6 children per female.

Even with Islamic immigration (which is finally beginning to slow), the EU will begin losing population during the next 3 decades.

454 gadlaw  Tue, Aug 11, 2009 6:29:07am

Well thank goodness it's FUD. Now if somebody would just point me to a rebuttal of that horror story I read about Redheads becoming extinct in 40 years or so. People shouldn't be allowed to write so much crap and all the fake studies given the credence and credibility and passed around by the UPI and AP and Reuters and all that. So much crap, not much real information.

455 karmasherabwangchuk  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 2:37:30pm

The Chinese don't give a hoot about global warming and will happily buy up every ounce of oil they can get. its not like if you don't have oil no one will buy it. and what exactly will replace oil? currently there are no good replacements. re: #75 Shiplord Kirel


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