Gadget of the Day: Canon EOS 5D Mark II

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I have a Nikon D90 digital SLR camera, and love it. I’ve used the D90’s still photography capabilities quite a bit, but one of the items on my to-do list is to further explore the camera’s high definition video features.

The nice thing about a DSLR that shoots HD video is that you can use any SLR lens and/or filter that’s compatible with the camera, allowing a world of effects you just can’t achieve with a camcorder. It’s possible to get an amazingly professional look, if you have high quality lenses and know how to use them.

LGF reader Thanos pointed out this page at the Canon website promoting their new high-end EOS 5D Mark II 21.1MP digital SLR, with a documentary by Dallas-based photojournalist David Leeson that demonstrates the fantastic results you can get (and is pretty interesting in itself). Serious techno-lust ensued.

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519 comments
1 Gearhead  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:21:25pm

[gadget boner]

2 stuck in california  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:23:04pm

I like toys...

3 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:24:09pm

Finally! Sidebar ads for the Nikon D90!

4 freetoken  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:24:30pm

Those large sensor cameras (the Canon 5D series uses sensors the size of the 35mm film frame) can make high quality images. However, they are expensive, and the better Canon lenses are pretty expensive too.

Note: the 5DMarkII was introduced last year... the current rumors are that Canon will release a follow-on to the 50D that will include advanced video features. (Canon usually announces a new camera in August.)

To me... I prefer film, and large film at that. Digital video is neat, though.

5 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:25:05pm

But no sidebar ads for the Canon.

6 Erik The Red  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:26:33pm

Must hide this from my wife. :)

7 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:26:59pm

re: #4 freetoken

Those large sensor cameras (the Canon 5D series uses sensors the size of the 35mm film frame) can make high quality images. However, they are expensive, and the better Canon lenses are pretty expensive too.

Note: the 5DMarkII was introduced last year... the current rumors are that Canon will release a follow-on to the 50D that will include advanced video features. (Canon usually announces a new camera in August.)

To me... I prefer film, and large film at that. Digital video is neat, though.

Or the huge sensor in a Hasselblad Digital back, $40k just for the back, body and lens not included.

8 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:29:53pm

"I have GOT to get me one of these!"

(channeling Will Smith in Independence Day)

9 quickjustice  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:29:55pm

How much?

10 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:30:21pm

re: #9 quickjustice

How much?

Old saying

If you have to ask, you can't afford it!

//

11 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:30:55pm

re: #9 quickjustice

How much?

$3700.

12 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:31:03pm

re: #9 quickjustice

How much?

$995

13 ArmyWife  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:31:46pm

re: #11 jcm

Does it come with a free snuggly?

14 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:31:57pm

re: #11 jcm

$3700.

re: #12 Jimmah

$995

JCM selling them out of a retail store
Jimmah selling them out of a car trunk!
//

15 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:32:02pm

re: #12 Jimmah

$995

If you are looking for a used one, I should have added.

16 Erik The Red  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:32:27pm

re: #9 quickjustice

How much?

Canon EOS-5D Mark II Digital SLR Camera

17 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:33:27pm

re: #13 ArmyWife

Does it come with a free snuggly?

I hate to break this to you, but a SNUGGLY is just a bathrobe put on backwards, sort of how my old weird uncle used to wear his!

18 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:34:41pm

re: #14 sattv4u2

JCM selling them out of a retail store
Jimmah selling them out of a car trunk!
//

Dang! I've been undercut!

19 VioletTiger  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:35:19pm

I can tell Charles is a Shutterbug.
I have a Powershot D10--good in up to 33ft of water. Hope they make a housing for it, 'cause our underwater camera set-up is really a pain. It takes great shots, btw.

20 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:35:42pm

re: #18 jcm

Dang! I've been undercut!

Crazy Jimmah ,,, his prices are IN-SANE!!!

21 BignJames  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:36:20pm

I had to find mine in the museum...2003 was so long ago.

22 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:36:21pm

How long are they going to keep running Billy Mays commercials?

/it's getting way beyond creepy now

23 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:40:19pm

re: #22 Killian Bundy

How long are they going to keep running Billy Mays commercials?

/it's getting way beyond creepy now

Wait till you see MJ's guest appearance.

24 VioletTiger  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:40:46pm

re: #21 BignJames

I had to find mine in the museum...2003 was so long ago.

I can't believe how much better the newer digital cameras are. Looking back on one of my early versions with 3.2 mp, vs the 12 mp cameras now and the difference is astounding.

25 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:40:58pm

re: #22 Killian Bundy

How long are they going to keep running Billy Mays commercials?

/it's getting way beyond creepy now

Well ,, with as much coke as he (allegedly) did, they're probably still chasing him around the morgue trying to get him into the box!

26 UncleRancher  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:42:58pm

I got mine a few months ago. Yes. Sell the wife and get one of these. !!!

27 BignJames  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:43:56pm

re: #24 VioletTiger

I can't believe how much better the newer digital cameras are. Looking back on one of my early versions with 3.2 mp, vs the 12 mp cameras now and the difference is astounding.

Yeah, I've got a first gen Rebel EOS...6.3 mp...puny.

28 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:45:47pm

Speaking of mad, a friend of mine and his girlfriend, who goaded him into it, set off tomorrow to spend 4 days at this event:

[Link: www.green-grid.co.uk...]

I told him not to eat their cookies, and not to get into the naked hot tub with them. Let's hope he makes it back with his health and sanity intact.

29 sattv4u2  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:48:22pm

Ah well

Just witnessed a melt down in the previous thread. Stinky took made short work of it!

I hear that 6 a.m. will come very early tomorrow, so I think I'll go see whats on the tube and fall asleep with the remote in my hand (Mrs SATTV just LOVES that!)

Toodles

30 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:49:04pm

re: #22 Killian Bundy

How long are they going to keep running Billy Mays commercials?

/it's getting way beyond creepy now

did you see the faint halo above his head with that last series of squirt cleaner commercials?

31 quickjustice  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:49:42pm

re: #16 Erik The Red

I'd have to take a full semester course to learn all the features on that baby!

32 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:51:17pm

I dig my camera...little older but very reliable

Image: brownie+bullet+camera.jpg

33 Russkilitlover  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:51:24pm

Digital? If you ain't Analog, you're a picture taker, not a photographer.

34 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:53:48pm

re: #32 albusteve

I dig my camera...little older but very reliable

[Link: 2.bp.blogspot.com...]

I still have my Olympus OM-1 35 years and going strong, 'cept I've gone digital and Canon.

35 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:53:58pm

re: #32 albusteve

Google ate my Brownie...bummer

36 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:54:19pm

re: #33 Russkilitlover

Digital? If you ain't Analog, you're a picture taker, not a photographer.

Digitalist!

37 livefreeor die  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:58:34pm

re: #28 Jimmah

Speaking of mad, a friend of mine and his girlfriend, who goaded him into it, set off tomorrow to spend 4 days at this event:

[Link: www.green-grid.co.uk...]

I told him not to eat their cookies, and not to get into the naked hot tub with them. Let's hope he makes it back with his health and sanity intact.

Yeesh! Read the "Typical Day" description. My favorite was :

Have a really good time at the African / Egyptian / Latin band workshop.

What on earth does an African/Egyptian/Latin band sound like?

38 VioletTiger  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:58:54pm

re: #34 jcm

I still have my Olympus OM-1 35 years and going strong, 'cept I've gone digital and Canon.


I have a similar camera. Some of the best macro pics I ever took came from this camera and 25 speed film. I don't think they even sell the film anymore. What I really like about digital is that you can screw up a hundred shots but still get a good one. Makes a big difference when you are shooting under water and about 2/3 of your shots will be junk. Wasted lots of film over the years.

39 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 6:59:07pm

didital cameras suck

Image: police-cameras-1.jpg

40 BignJames  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:00:31pm

re: #33 Russkilitlover

Digital? If you ain't Analog, you're a picture taker, not a photographer.


My last analog read the film can...set the shutter speed...counted unexposed frames...advanced and rewound the film...still had to get the film developed...now I'm cutting out the middleman.

41 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:00:48pm
re: #39 albusteve

didital cameras suck

[Link: static.howstuffworks.com...]

How many over in what speed zone?

;-P

42 ArmyWife  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:01:00pm

I am going to go read and go to bed - I rode my pokey horse and ran tonight, so I'm pretty tired! Try to carry one without me...

43 3 wood  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:01:20pm

Good evening.

The market was up over 1% today, based on some positive comments by the Fed.


Economy leveling out, but rates to stay low a while

WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The Federal Open Market Committee promised again Wednesday to keep interest rates exceptionally low "for an extended period of time," even as it drew encouragement from the stronger economic outlook.

In its statement after a two-day closed-door meeting, the Federal Reserve's policy-setting FOMC said it would slow its purchases of long-term Treasurys and let the program die a natural death by the end of October, a decision that could send long-term yields higher.

In the main, however, the Fed said its policies are working and expressed no desire to tighten its extremely loose monetary policy. The federal funds target rate will remain at 0% to 0.25%.


When those yields jump, and they will, look for a lot of money to be attracted to it and out of the stock market, to get the higher yield at relatively no risk.

The key, you see, is not just where is the higher possible return. If that were the case, you should invest at the race track on bang tails. No, the key is where do you get the best risk adjusted return.

44 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:01:55pm

re: #39 albusteve

didital cameras suck

[Link: static.howstuffworks.com...]

not that I'm a crook...the traffic cameras all over ABQ have people up in arms...it seems every lighted intersection has them, big source of revenue

45 VioletTiger  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:02:59pm

re: #35 albusteve

Google ate my Brownie...bummer

You mean one of these?
I have one of those. It was my Mom's. Camera evolution is pretty amazing.

46 zombie  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:03:34pm
Gadget of the Day: Canon EOS 5D Mark II

The Canon EOS 5D Mark II is no mere "gadget": I wager it's the best camera ever made.

ISO up to 25,600? ? ? ? That is just insane. You can basically take pictures in total darkness and they'll still come out.

21 megapixels? Detail down to the cellular level.

Any freaking Canon lens on earth, insta-snap-on the SLR body? O.M.G. Among the best and most interesting lens selections imaginable. Infinite possibilities, from outer space photography to microscopy to sports photos to anything.

4 pictures per second in rapid-repeat mode? Holy Cow.

Etc. etc.

Plus, you can make movies with it.

Basically, if you had this camera only 20 years ago, you could rule the world.

47 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:03:43pm

My dad was a shutter bug, during the years we spent as missionaries traveling and in Iran he took 6000 slides.

The oldest ones where starting to fade, so I scanned them all. Use a Nikon LS4000 scanner with feed adapter, 50 slides at time. Hi Res to archive them 135MB for each image.

I'm slowing cataloguing them.

48 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:03:52pm

re: #44 albusteve

not that I'm a crook...the traffic cameras all over ABQ have people up in arms...it seems every lighted intersection has them, big source of revenue

Also a big source of safety. When people stop running red lights the revenue will drop. Also there's photo evidence when somebody runs a red light and kills someone.

49 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:04:34pm

re: #41 jcm

How many over in what speed zone?

;-P

they got me twice...sent me a ticket/letter with my little Jetta flying along at 35 in a 25...Boom!, $100 each

50 BignJames  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:05:22pm

re: #43 3 wood


I'm closing on a home eq. loan on Mon...to build another house...5.99%...is that about average?

51 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:05:30pm

re: #45 VioletTiger

You mean one of these?
I have one of those. It was my Mom's. Camera evolution is pretty amazing.

yes, I'm 102 years old...get outa here!

52 zombie  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:05:41pm

If I was given a magic gift certificate which would allow me to get for free any camera in the world -- it would be the EOS SD Mark II.

But alas -- $4,000? Sorry, that's a little out of my range.

53 3 wood  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:06:35pm

So what's your TARP money doing now?
Benmosche Said to Start AIG Tenure With Croatian Trip


Aug. 11 (Bloomberg) -- Robert Benmosche, the chief executive officer of American International Group Inc., plans to spend part of his first month leading the insurer in Croatia on vacation, according to two people familiar with the situation.

Benmosche, 65, who started yesterday as CEO and president of the bailed-out company, will leave for about two weeks, according to one of the people, who declined to be identified because the plans were private. Mark Herr, an AIG spokesman, said the New York-based firm wouldn’t comment on CEO travel.


Gee, he must think he's a congresscritter

54 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:06:54pm

Techno lust, that's the right term for this. There are other videos at the page, and the camera shoots fantastic stills as well. Me, I have a eos rebel XTI, 12.1 megapixel. I really want one of these however.

55 VioletTiger  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:07:30pm

re: #47 jcm

My dad was a shutter bug, during the years we spent as missionaries traveling and in Iran he took 6000 slides.

The oldest ones where starting to fade, so I scanned them all. Use a Nikon LS4000 scanner with feed adapter, 50 slides at time. Hi Res to archive them 135MB for each image.

I'm slowing cataloguing them.

I did the same thing with my Mom's photos after she died. We found thousands of them. So many shutterbugs in my family--from back to the dawn of cameras by the looks of some photos. It took me almost a year, but everything is scanned and digital.

56 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:07:44pm

re: #49 albusteve

they got me twice...sent me a ticket/letter with my little Jetta flying along at 35 in a 25...Boom!, $100 each

Dang, we have speed cameras in construction zones, but now where else in WA ... YET.. Red light cameras are spreading like crazy.

57 Original Kolya  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:07:54pm

The 5D Mark II is a fantastic camera and the video quality is breathtaking. But when used as a video camera it has some distinct limitations, the main one being that during a shot there is no realistic way of adjusting the focus to track a moving subject.

As I understand it, cinema-style movie cameras also generally don't refocus during a shot, and when they do it is a highly rehearsed manoeuvre requiring the services of a dedicated focus puller. On the other hand, pretty much every amateur camcorder has continuously tracking auto-focus.

The upshot is that if you want to make home movies you'd find the 5D Mark II frustrating to use; if you want to make broadcast quality videos or short films and are willing to work in a pre-planned systematic way, you can do it for a tiny fraction of the cost it would otherwise entail.

In this respect the 5D Mark II reminds me of the first Apple LaserWriter whose nearest competitor at the time was a $100,000 Xerox laser printer.

58 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:08:27pm

re: #48 Killgore Trout

Also a big source of safety. When people stop running red lights the revenue will drop. Also there's photo evidence when somebody runs a red light and kills someone.

true enough, and don't take me too seriously...it's not the red lights, it's the speeding...they clock you going through the intersections...it's a transition from getting run down by a cruiser and people are insecure about it...hey!, slow down!

59 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:08:37pm

re: #55 VioletTiger

I did the same thing with my Mom's photos after she died. We found thousands of them. So many shutterbugs in my family--from back to the dawn of cameras by the looks of some photos. It took me almost a year, but everything is scanned and digital.

Something like 1.5TB of drive space. Copies of the files in WA, ID and MN.

60 VioletTiger  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:08:52pm

re: #51 albusteve

yes, I'm 102 years old...get outa here!

They're not all 102 years old--just the first ones!;)

61 livefreeor die  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:08:57pm

re: #52 zombie

If I was given a magic gift certificate which would allow me to get for free any camera in the world -- it would be the EOS SD Mark II.

But alas -- $4,000? Sorry, that's a little out of my range.

I bet we'll have bought them for Pelosi and friends by the end of the week. So they can-um-take pictures of their constituents'-um-needs and concerns. Yeah, that's it!

62 3 wood  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:09:32pm

re: #50 BignJames

I'm closing on a home eq. loan on Mon...to build another house...5.99%...is that about average?

Depends on a whole lot of personal stuff you don't want to get into on a blog. Just get it done and make sure it's a fixed rate.

63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:09:51pm

I saw this a minute ago for the first time.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee answers phone while at a town hall while cancer survivor is asking her a question. Saw the footage.

Classy.

They wonder why we don't love them.

64 Lee Coller  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:10:38pm

When's Obama coming out with the cash for analog camera's program?

65 VioletTiger  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:11:00pm

re: #59 jcm

Something like 1.5TB of drive space. Copies of the files in WA, ID and MN.


Wow.
But it's nice to be able to share the photos once you are done.
Are you repairing any damaged ones?

66 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:11:33pm

re: #37 livefreeor die

What on earth does an African/Egyptian/Latin band sound like?

I dunno - some of the music there might actually be ok - that one actually sounds like the sort of thing I'd like. It's just all the new age garbage and moonbattery that you have to put up with when you go to that place.

67 LGoPs  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:11:47pm

Just a quick note. My project has ramped up significantly and I'm saturated with work. My posting over the next couple of weeks will be sporadic and sparse.
I know...I know...the cries of lamentation are deafening.../ nyuk, nyuk.
Anyway, just wanted to say...Later lizards

68 livefreeor die  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:12:22pm

re: #63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I saw this a minute ago for the first time.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee answers phone while at a town hall while cancer survivor is asking her a question. Saw the footage.

Classy.

They wonder why we don't love them.

Oh, so she's not allowed to answer her phone when she wants to?
RAAACIST!
/

69 livefreeor die  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:12:59pm

re: #66 Jimmah

I dunno - some of the music there might actually be ok - that one actually sounds like the sort of thing I'd like. It's just all the new age garbage and moonbattery that you have to put up with when you go to that place.

Did you see the photo album from previous years? It rocks!

70 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:12:59pm

re: #52 zombie

If I was given a magic gift certificate which would allow me to get for free any camera in the world -- it would be the EOS SD Mark II.

But alas -- $4,000? Sorry, that's a little out of my range.

They are having a photo contest with grand prize being one of these with their top of the line photo printer

[Link: www.usa.canon.com...]

71 BignJames  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:13:00pm

re: #62 3 wood

Depends on a whole lot of personal stuff you don't want to get into on a blog. Just get it done and make sure it's a fixed rate.


Yeah, it's fixed...I'm planning on paying it off when I sell my present home...and hopefully pocketing some $$...how much is the capital gains rate?

72 Lee Coller  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:13:07pm

re: #63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I saw this a minute ago for the first time.

Rep.Queen Sheila Jackson Lee answers phone while at a town hall while cancer survivor is asking her a question. Saw the footage.

Classy.

They wonder why we don't love them.


FIFY

73 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:13:08pm

re: #67 LGoPs

Enjoy the work!

74 zombie  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:13:31pm

I'm laughing at the review comments on Amazon. Example of a guy who tested his lenses with the camera:

---

"1. Canon 200mm F/2 IS L lens. This lens is my new master of resolving power. Even wide open at F/2 it is sharper then any other lens I have ever used. I could go on and on but here's a few highlights: Lightening fast auto focus, F/2 speed at 200mm, unbelievable perfect 10 Images, public attention hog, otherworldly image stabilization, great build quality, weather sealed, fantastic perfect buttery smooth Bokeh and what a lens case! If you crave attention and demand the absolute best there is the do what ever it takes to get this lens on your Canon 5D Mark II. If you do not like public attention you may want to skip to number 2 in this list as I have never been asked so many questions about a lens as this one. But it's all worth it as the clarity, sharpness, Bokeh and colors are: otherworldly, insane, impossible, rare, perfect, out of sight, crazy!!

2. Canon 85mm F/1.2 II L lens. Without a doubt at F/4 (after the Canon 200mm F/2 of course) this lens delivers the clearest sharpest and most resolving power onto any photograph you care to take with the Canon 5D Mark II. The clarity has to be seen to be believed. At F/1.2 the Depth of Field (DOF) is scary thin and the edges are super soft which is great for female portraiture. The super soft creamy dreamy Bokeh at F/1.2 is much smoother on the 5D Mark II over my 40D. But stop this lens down to F/1.8 and it gets scary sharp and clear. Step it down to F/4.0 and it's at its sharpest and the only lens I have that gives you 100% pixel peeping razor blade edge to edge top to bottom perfect clarity in every single area of the photo. For some reason this lens is even sharper on my 5D Mark II then my 40D or Rebel, don't know why but it is. Guess it's getting the full resolving power to the 21 megapixel sensor.

Looking at a photo on my iMac taken with a 5D Mark II with this lens stopped down to F/4 is like standing there looking through an open window at the actual scene! You feel like you could actually open up the computer screen like opening a window and climb in!!! "

---

I guess you could call that a ringing endorsement.

75 jaunte  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:13:39pm

re: #63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Reading the report about her town hall meeting in the Houston Chronicle, a reliably center-left paper, the report goes into some detail about how the meeting publicity was conducted in such a quiet way that it resulted in a turnout of just over a hundred people.
Jackson Lee says she wasn't trying to keep away health plan foes

76 VioletTiger  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:14:23pm

re: #63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I saw this a minute ago for the first time.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee answers phone while at a town hall while cancer survivor is asking her a question. Saw the footage.

Classy.

They wonder why we don't love them.


That was just so rude. The media just won't let these things die, either. Once somebody gets a shot, it's on youtube and then it's forever.
Technology is a stubborn thing.

77 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:14:54pm

re: #65 VioletTiger

Wow.
But it's nice to be able to share the photos once you are done.
Are you repairing any damaged ones?

Yeah, some where so washed out I thought they were hopeless, the Nikon Digital ICE software was simply stunning in what it could recover.

78 3 wood  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:15:01pm

re: #48 Killgore Trout

If you are still out there, remember the other day you linked an article talking about a U shaped recovery?

Get a load of this one:

‘The World Is in Trouble’: Deutsche Bank Chief Economist


The global economy still faces turmoil as government try to figure out how to move out of fiscal rescue packages, which could lead to another two downturns, Deutsche Bank Chief Economist Norbert Walter said Thursday.

“I believe that the rescue packages brought on have been so costly for so many governments that the exit from this fiscal policy will be very painful, very painful indeed,” he said. “Some of us are already talking about a W-shaped recovery. I’d probably talk about a triple-U-shaped recovery because there are so many stumbling blocks here to get out of this.”


It all depends on what assumptions you make and how you think the economy reacts to easy money and interest rate changes.

79 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:15:24pm

I still have a decent Polaroid and a half dozen film cartridges...since the seventies I've taken that thing down to Jamaica with me to take pictures of folks so they can have them...I've had grown up kids come to me and show me their pictures I took of them 20 years ago...they really dig it...times don't change so fast for everyone...I love that place

80 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:16:27pm

re: #69 livefreeor die

Did you see the photo album from previous years? It rocks!

Crystal huggers.

81 zombie  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:16:28pm

re: #70 Thanos

They are having a photo contest with grand prize being one of these with their top of the line photo printer

[Link: www.usa.canon.com...]

Yeah, I think I'll submit "Total Toilet Pig" and see if I win.

82 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:16:59pm

re: #77 jcm

Yeah, some where so washed out I thought they were hopeless, the Nikon Digital ICE software was simply stunning in what it could recover.

I'm impressed...your legacy

83 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:17:28pm

I'd love to get a digital camera -- I have a bunch of Nikon lenses I'd like to use with it. But the kids would probably dump it in the toilet with the last two cell phones I've had.

84 3 wood  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:17:38pm

re: #71 BignJames

Yeah, it's fixed...I'm planning on paying it off when I sell my present home...and hopefully pocketing some $$...how much is the capital gains rate?

Your marginal rate will again depend on the particulars, short term capital gains verse long term, other investments, any losses carried forward, that sort of thing. Make sure you use a professional tax preparer, they are worth it. I have all my statements sent automatically to my accountant.

85 VioletTiger  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:18:07pm

re: #77 jcm

Yeah, some where so washed out I thought they were hopeless, the Nikon Digital ICE software was simply stunning in what it could recover.

Don't you love when you click a button and see it come back to life? Made it all worth the effort.

86 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:18:15pm

re: #78 3 wood

Hey dude.

I may apply for a job at ISU. Email me with your thoughts, if you are game.

87 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:18:40pm

Last night's meteor shower photo shoot was a bust. I got hung up on a test call and ended up with only a half hour. The moon was too bright, and there were some clouds -- only a couple of meteors were bright enough and I caught them trailing out, not enough time to experiment with F stop etc. Photos not worth publishing. :(

88 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:18:57pm

re: #78 3 wood

I wouldn't be at all surprised to see a more turbulent recovery. I'm still shocked that we've come back this fast so far. There have to be some bumps in the road.

89 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:19:00pm

re: #48 Killgore Trout

How's the Manx?

90 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:19:16pm

re: #81 zombie

Yeah, I think I'll submit "Total Toilet Pig" and see if I win.

:) you could take a run to Big Sur...

91 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:20:01pm

re: #87 Thanos

Try again tonight.

92 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:20:08pm

re: #90 Thanos

:) you could take a run to Big Sur...

Shouldn't that be Big Sewer?

93 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:20:11pm

I cooked a pork meat loaf tonight that had a layer of almost-opaque white bubbling on the top--I thought it was gonna' grow an arm and reach out to grab me. Never in my life have I baked anything that scared me.

I've bred some interesting stuff in the refigerator--like the left-over 1995 Thanksgiving turkey I found in late February that had a pink fuzz on it and appeared to be breathing. And, I'll never forget the 1999 black-eyed-pea-and-tuna salad--it produced such interesting colors and shapes of mold that I shot a whole roll of film.

But, this creation bubbled and burbled. I actually leapt into the air sideways when I got it to the sink so that I could hit the disposer's switch at the same time I dumped it down the drain.

What did humanity do before the garbage disposer?

94 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:20:29pm

re: #91 Killgore Trout

Try again tonight.

I might, but the city lights here are pretty bright.

95 CommonCents  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:20:52pm

I have a measly Olympus C770. It takes relatively good pictures for my use but the auto-focus to snap speed is a little on the slow side. That makes it difficult when trying to capture the yard critters in funny poses as they move quickly.

I'm not a big techno camera guy, but do these multi-thousand dollar cameras that capture video also have anti-shake (not sure of the term) capability?

96 BignJames  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:21:23pm

re: #84 3 wood

Your marginal rate will again depend on the particulars, short term capital gains verse long term, other investments, any losses carried forward, that sort of thing. Make sure you use a professional tax preparer, they are worth it. I have all my statements sent automatically to my accountant.


I do have a tax guy...I'm making repairs/ improvements to the house I'll be selling...I'm assuming I can deduct those costs from the capital gains?

97 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:21:40pm

re: #89 Lucius Septimius

She's doing well. Very talkative and loves attention. She's reasonably well behaved although I still have to keep an eye on her when she's in the shop. It takes years to train a good shop cat.

98 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:21:51pm

re: #93 MandyManners

I cooked a pork meat loaf tonight that had a layer of almost-opaque white bubbling on the top--I thought it was gonna' grow an arm and reach out to grab me. Never in my life have I baked anything that scared me.

I've bred some interesting stuff in the refigerator--like the left-over 1995 Thanksgiving turkey I found in late February that had a pink fuzz on it and appeared to be breathing. And, I'll never forget the 1999 black-eyed-pea-and-tuna salad--it produced such interesting colors and shapes of mold that I shot a whole roll of film.

But, this creation bubbled and burbled. I actually leapt into the air sideways when I got it to the sink so that I could hit the disposer's switch at the same time I dumped it down the drain.

What did humanity do before the garbage disposer?

That sounds nasty!

I wish I could have saved you some of the lamb tagine that I made for supper. But the pot was scraped clean.

99 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:22:00pm

re: #93 MandyManners

What did humanity do before the garbage disposer?

We ate everything.

100 zombie  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:22:32pm

re: #87 Thanos

Last night's meteor shower photo shoot was a bust. I got hung up on a test call and ended up with only a half hour. The moon was too bright, and there were some clouds -- only a couple of meteors were bright enough and I caught them trailing out, not enough time to experiment with F stop etc. Photos not worth publishing. :(

I too tried to watch and possibly photograph them. Result? I got one word for you: fog.

F�%$*^&ing San Francisco!

101 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:22:36pm

re: #94 Thanos

We're socked in with clouds here. No chance of seeing anything.

102 3 wood  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:23:03pm

re: #86 Lucius Septimius

Hey dude.

I may apply for a job at ISU. Email me with your thoughts, if you are game.

OK, I'll look around for your email. Does realwest have it?

103 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:23:56pm

re: #97 Killgore Trout

I am sadly Manx-less at the moment. I have a butthead black and white fat kitteh who is sweet but dumb as a box of rocks. Then there is my son's tabby who flirts with me when sonny boy isn't around, thus playing into one of every man's worst nightmares.

"Sonny's at work. Hey daddy, want to play? Purrr"

104 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:24:13pm

re: #82 albusteve

I'm impressed...your legacy

With the technology some of the images would be gone in a few years. Friends and family who are long gone, events etc...

Now all preserved.

105 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:24:16pm

re: #95 CommonCents

I have a measly Olympus C770. It takes relatively good pictures for my use but the auto-focus to snap speed is a little on the slow side. That makes it difficult when trying to capture the yard critters in funny poses as they move quickly.

I'm not a big techno camera guy, but do these multi-thousand dollar cameras that capture video also have anti-shake (not sure of the term) capability?

I have a Canon SD90. It has a special "kids and pets" mode that speeds it up, but the dogs still move.

106 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:24:16pm

re: #95 CommonCents

I have a measly Olympus C770. It takes relatively good pictures for my use but the auto-focus to snap speed is a little on the slow side. That makes it difficult when trying to capture the yard critters in funny poses as they move quickly.

I'm not a big techno camera guy, but do these multi-thousand dollar cameras that capture video also have anti-shake (not sure of the term) capability?

You can get lenses with stabilizers built in, there is a bit of correction in the camera too. That doesn't mean you can shoot willy nilly however unless you have the right asa, lighting, and speeds set up. Kasey often comes out blurred in portions.

107 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:24:26pm

re: #102 3 wood

He does; I may have yours somewhere too, but too deeply buried, I'm afraid to find.

108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:24:42pm

re: #86 Lucius Septimius

Hey dude.

I may apply for a job at ISU. Email me with your thoughts, if you are game.

LUCIUS!

109 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:25:00pm

re: #108 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

C'est moi.

110 3 wood  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:26:06pm

re: #88 Killgore Trout

I had suggested some international finance reading might help you. Here is a free website that might be of some assistance on better understanding the ebbs and flows of money across the globe.

Or, go into any decent used book store and look for an old Samuelson Economics text book and read the sections on monetary policy, exchange rates and international finance.

111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:26:09pm

re: #109 Lucius Septimius

Haven't seen you in forever... it's good to see you!

112 Charles Johnson  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:26:25pm

I was hoping to get some meteor shower pics but it looks like Los Angeles is going to be overcast again.

113 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:27:06pm

re: #104 jcm

With the technology some of the images would be gone in a few years. Friends and family who are long gone, events etc...

Now all preserved.

I have a ton of old family film to deal with...piles of reels...it's going to cost a fortune to have them preserved

114 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:28:02pm

re: #110 3 wood

I can't find yours -- ok, I'm in blue, so just shoot me a note when you get a chance.

115 3 wood  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:29:26pm

Treasurys improve after 10-year auction, Fed decision

Treasury prices improved on Wednesday, though long-term yields remained higher, after the Federal Reserve said it would slow down its purchases of U.S. debt, keeping a steady buyer in the bond market a little longer than investors previously expected.

The market was lower before the decision, as the government had to pay more than expected to entice investors to buy a record amount of 10-year notes up for auction.


Get used to seeing that happen.

116 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:29:37pm

re: #99 Lucius Septimius

We ate everything.

Yeah, in former life I kept getting stuck with boiled hoof soup...

117 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:29:37pm

re: #111 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I been busy.

118 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:29:47pm

re: #110 3 wood

I'm still struggling with stock market basics and personal finance stuff. I'll work my way up to economics eventually.

119 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:29:59pm

re: #116 jcm

Mmmm. Hooves.

120 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:30:14pm

No clouds here, just heavy humidity, which is washing out the sky from the city lights. Only the brightest stars are visible.

121 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:30:19pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

I'm still struggling with stock market basics and personal finance stuff. I'll work my way up to economics eventually.

I'm poor. It makes life MUCH easier.

122 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:31:01pm

re: #105 Kosh's Shadow

I have a Canon SD90. It has a special "kids and pets" mode that speeds it up, but the dogs still move.

I love the rapid fire on my canon, press the shutter down and snap a whole series of the kids in motion. With the 4GB card I've got room for 800 frames.

123 CommonCents  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:31:30pm

re: #106 Thanos

You can get lenses with stabilizers built in, there is a bit of correction in the camera too. That doesn't mean you can shoot willy nilly however unless you have the right asa, lighting, and speeds set up. Kasey often comes out blurred in portions.

Awesome dog. My Angel is 13 with big time arthritis. Her playing days are over now but she's still cute.

124 zombie  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:31:48pm

re: #101 Killgore Trout

We're socked in with clouds here. No chance of seeing anything.

re: #112 Charles

I was hoping to get some meteor shower pics but it looks like Los Angeles is going to be overcast again.

Overcast I could live with -- you know it's coming, everybody suffers equally.

But fog is so goldurn frustrating, because when it parts momentarily there's a beautiful black sky filled with twinkling stars -- for just a moment, and then it's swallowed up again and you can't see two feet in front of you. Wait in vain for half an hour -- a glimpse of sky -- and it's quickly swallowed up again. It drives you crazy that you know the clear sky is just above you, and you can't see it.

125 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:32:22pm

re: #123 CommonCents

Awesome dog. My Angel is 13 with big time arthritis. Her playing days are over now but she's still cute.

Yes, she really is, looks like a friendly sort.

126 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:33:06pm

re: #124 zombie

Overcast I could live with -- you know it's coming, everybody suffers equally.

But fog is so goldurn frustrating, because when it parts momentarily there's a beautiful black sky filled with twinkling stars -- for just a moment, and then it's swallowed up again and you can't see two feet in front of you. Wait in vain for half an hour -- a glimpse of sky -- and it's quickly swallowed up again. It drives you crazy that you know the clear sky is just above you, and you can't see it.

Can you get above it at twin peaks?

127 3 wood  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:33:12pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

I'm still struggling with stock market basics and personal finance stuff. I'll work my way up to economics eventually.

It's not that hard, I used to read economics books for enjoyment. Then I realized that I had read just about all of them that were on the market.

128 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:34:05pm

there is no fog in New Mexico...the air is bone dry...come for a vacation! (then go home)

129 Cato the Elder  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:34:08pm

re: #124 zombie

Overcast I could live with -- you know it's coming, everybody suffers equally.

But fog is so goldurn frustrating, because when it parts momentarily there's a beautiful black sky filled with twinkling stars -- for just a moment, and then it's swallowed up again and you can't see two feet in front of you. Wait in vain for half an hour -- a glimpse of sky -- and it's quickly swallowed up again. It drives you crazy that you know the clear sky is just above you, and you can't see it.

Most frustrating of all is urban ambient light blocking out all but the brightest heavenly bodies.

I'm looking forward to getting to know the Milky Way again after my move.

130 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:34:09pm

re: #120 Thanos

No clouds here, just heavy humidity, which is washing out the sky from the city lights. Only the brightest stars are visible.

Mostly over cast...

131 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:34:15pm

re: #122 jcm

I love the rapid fire on my canon, press the shutter down and snap a whole series of the kids in motion. With the 4GB card I've got room for 800 frames.

I should try that; the SD90 also has that mode.
I get about 800 on a 2GB card - and this is 10 Megapixels.

132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:34:18pm

re: #117 Lucius Septimius

I been busy.

Obviously. Just glad that you are alive... still a lizard... etc...

133 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:34:37pm

re: #121 Lucius Septimius

I'm pretty damn poor too. I can't wait to get my money back out of the market.

134 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:34:44pm

re: #98 Alouette

That sounds nasty!

I wish I could have saved you some of the lamb tagine that I made for supper. But the pot was scraped clean.

Lamb and veal are two things I've never had and never will. I'm just a wuss.

135 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:35:03pm

re: #124 zombie

Overcast I could live with -- you know it's coming, everybody suffers equally.

But fog is so goldurn frustrating, because when it parts momentarily there's a beautiful black sky filled with twinkling stars -- for just a moment, and then it's swallowed up again and you can't see two feet in front of you. Wait in vain for half an hour -- a glimpse of sky -- and it's quickly swallowed up again. It drives you crazy that you know the clear sky is just above you, and you can't see it.

Oh to be the POTUS, and take Air Force One out for a spin above the clouds.

/

136 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:35:09pm

re: #130 jcm

Mostly over cast...

Nice shot

137 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:35:50pm

re: #130 jcm

Gorgeous.

138 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:35:53pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

I'm pretty damn poor too. I can't wait to get my money back out of the market.

hahaha!...it's gone bro...whatever comes back inflation will consume it

139 Cato the Elder  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:36:14pm

re: #93 MandyManners

I cooked a pork meat loaf tonight that had a layer of almost-opaque white bubbling on the top--I thought it was gonna' grow an arm and reach out to grab me. Never in my life have I baked anything that scared me.

I've bred some interesting stuff in the refigerator--like the left-over 1995 Thanksgiving turkey I found in late February that had a pink fuzz on it and appeared to be breathing. And, I'll never forget the 1999 black-eyed-pea-and-tuna salad--it produced such interesting colors and shapes of mold that I shot a whole roll of film.

But, this creation bubbled and burbled. I actually leapt into the air sideways when I got it to the sink so that I could hit the disposer's switch at the same time I dumped it down the drain.

What did humanity do before the garbage disposer?

refrigerator (n.) a place to keep food until you're ready to throw it away

140 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:36:17pm

re: #134 MandyManners

Lamb and veal are two things I've never had and never will. I'm just a wuss.

Lamb vindaloo, you are missing out...

141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:36:19pm

re: #134 MandyManners

Principle ding.

142 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:37:24pm

re: #136 Thanos

re: #137 Killgore Trout

Camera is in Poulsbo, WA looking west over Hood Canal at the Olympic Mountains.

143 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:37:49pm

re: #99 Lucius Septimius

We ate everything.

This would've been tossed on the same pile as that of the first artist.

Good to see you, stranger.

144 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:38:26pm

re: #142 jcm

re: #137 Killgore Trout

Camera is in Poulsbo, WA looking west over Hood Canal at the Olympic Mountains.

very pretty...looks wet tho, soggy...I'm a desert head

145 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:38:29pm

re: #143 MandyManners

Niceataseeya too, babe.

How's that kid?

146 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:38:54pm

The other techno lust I have is for the latest photoshop so I could do that blending of photos thing, but they want an arm and a leg

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

147 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:39:27pm

re: #138 albusteve

Nah, I'll be fine. Before the end of the year I'll sell off some of my winners and balance the capital gains by selling off some losers. As long as the market keeps chugging along I should be fine.

148 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:39:32pm

re: #143 MandyManners

This would've been tossed on the same pile as that of the first artist.

Good to see you, stranger.

You want us to FEED YOU, so you can draw on the cave wall?!?!

Hey! Guys we got us bait for the next bear hunt!

149 3 wood  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:39:58pm

Dollar trims losses as Fed hints at end of quantitative easing
British pound recoups a bit as BoE updates inflation outlook


The U.S. dollar trimmed earlier losses against major counterparts on Wednesday after the Federal Reserve left interest rates unchanged, near zero percent, and said it would gradually slow its purchases of Treasurys.

The Fed again promised to keep interest rates exceptionally low "for an extended period of time," even as it drew encouragement from a stronger economic outlook.

The central bank will let its Treasury-buying program, part of its "quantitative easing" measures, end in October. Letting the program end was seen as a first step that the central bank is taking a slightly less accommodative policy stance.

"The optimistic comments from the Federal Reserve and the not-so-subtle hints that the central bank is thinking about an exit strategy drove the dollar higher across all board," said Kathy Lien, director of currency research at GFT Forex.

However, a continued move away from low-yielding currencies, such as the dollar and the yen, and into riskier assets, such as stocks on Wall Street, held the dollar in check, according to analysts at Action Economics.

150 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:40:28pm

re: #143 MandyManners

BTW, I tried to link to a YouTube clip of History of The World and found this.

[Link: euraktiva786.wordpress.com...]

Wowza. From burbling meat loaf to Harun Yahya in a few minutes!

151 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:40:30pm

When I was in college I worked as a dishwasher in the cafeteria. Thoughtless cretins would put peanut butter in bowls. Nothing short of tactical nukes would get that stuff out. So, faced with such bowls and a large backload of half chewed comestibles, I would toss said bowls into the disposal.

The sound it made kept me coming back for more.

152 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:40:32pm

re: #144 albusteve

I've been in the PacNW so long that direct sunlight actually hurts me now.

153 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:40:58pm

Of course if you are a student it's only an arm up to the elbow that they want

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

154 Killgore Trout  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:41:44pm

re: #151 Lucius Septimius

Heh. I spent a good chunk of my youth trying to blast burritos out of coffee cups. Same thing.

155 jaunte  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:41:56pm

re: #148 jcm

You want us to FEED YOU, so you can draw on the cave wall?!?!

Hey! Guys we got us bait for the next bear hunt!

Ah, but it's a magic drawing of a bear, so that the tribe's hunt will be successful.
(How the first artist survived by going into advertising).

156 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:42:01pm

I made a very nice Lamb ragu to go over penne for my own dinner tonight. Second son gave me a gigantic leg of lamb as a father's day present (why this was his chosen gift, I do not know; oldest boy got me cigars) and I've been eating off of it for two months.

157 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:42:19pm

re: #152 Killgore Trout

I've been in the PacNW so long that direct sunlight actually hurts me now.

never EVER come to New Mexico without two pairs of RayBans...jus sayin

158 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:42:57pm

re: #152 Killgore Trout

I've been in the PacNW so long that direct sunlight actually hurts me now.

There is a reason Twilight is set in Forks, Wa.

159 3 wood  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:43:10pm

re: #133 Killgore Trout

I'm pretty damn poor too. I can't wait to get my money back out of the market.

You probably need to be in different sectors now than you were last year.

I cleared enough in the last few weeks to pay for my daughters first year of college, after getting even with the market from last year.

There's money to be made out there.

160 zombie  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:43:19pm

Ooooh, a sun dog visible right now in the SF Bay Area!

Depending on where you are, go outside and look about 15 degrees to the left of the sun.

161 Neutral President  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:43:31pm

re: #152 Killgore Trout

I've been in the PacNW so long that direct sunlight actually hurts me now.

The Yellow Face! It burnses us!

162 zombie  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:44:01pm

re: #126 Thanos

Can you get above it at twin peaks?

Possibly, yes, depending on the day.

But don't want to get too specific about my location.

163 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:44:03pm

re: #134 MandyManners

Lamb and veal are two things I've never had and never will. I'm just a wuss.

Mmmm. I love baby sheep and baby cow.

164 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:44:35pm

re: #157 albusteve

never EVER come to New Mexico without two pairs of RayBans...jus sayin

I've read Seattle has a very high per capita sunglasses purchase rate. We have a pair but lose them before the sun comes out again.

165 3 wood  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:45:37pm

Time to hit the hay. Good night.

166 zombie  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:45:40pm

Gettin' a little "sunbow" action with the sun dog. Nice.

Gotta run! Ciao.

167 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:45:54pm

re: #164 jcm

I've read Seattle has a very high per capita sunglasses purchase rate.

There a must if your pupils are perpetually dilated.

168 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:46:11pm

re: #145 Lucius Septimius

Niceataseeya too, babe.

How's that kid?

Leggy and mouthy.

How's your family?

169 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:46:35pm

re: #167 Lucius Septimius

They're, not there.

Poop. Either not enough gin or too much.

170 Irenicum  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:46:50pm

Hey gang, I made it Staten Island OK. Already had good NY pizza! I'm hoping for Greek tomorrow. Souvlaki calls out to me! I seem to have an open network. So I'm enjoying it while I can! I watched Bleck and his spiel and it definitely was bizarre. BTW, I am also experiencing some serious techno lust with that camera!

171 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:46:52pm

re: #148 jcm

You want us to FEED YOU, so you can draw on the cave wall?!?!

Hey! Guys we got us bait for the next bear hunt!

What? Are you the first art critic?

172 CommonCents  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:46:54pm

I'm 30 minutes from the nearest real city and it's crystal clear out tonight. Unfortunately I'm surrounded by 60 foot oak trees so I only have a limited view of the sky. In which direction is this Perseus constellation?

173 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:46:55pm

re: #167 Lucius Septimius

There a must if your pupils are perpetually dilated.

I'm so bad I wear sunglasses when the clouds thin...

174 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:48:01pm

re: #164 jcm

I've read Seattle has a very high per capita sunglasses purchase rate. We have a pair but lose them before the sun comes out again.

you'd go blind down here without them...here it comes

Youtube Video
175 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:48:27pm

re: #168 MandyManners

Leggy and mouthy.

How's your family?

Insane. Oldest one thinks he's dad. I remind him he's not. Second son is just weird and will tell you that. Baby girl is four and the consummate princess -- though she did get expelled from vacation bible school. Baby is walking around and is Mr. Cool -- some day he'll be sitting on a beach drinking beer and playing guitar. My retirement is all planned out.

176 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:48:37pm

re: #172 CommonCents

I'm 30 minutes from the nearest real city and it's crystal clear out tonight. Unfortunately I'm surrounded by 60 foot oak trees so I only have a limited view of the sky. In which direction is this Perseus constellation?

2009 Meteor Showers and Viewing Tips

177 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:48:46pm

re: #166 zombie

Gettin' a little "sunbow" action with the sun dog. Nice.

Gotta run! Ciao.

Got any SON KITTEHS?

178 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:49:25pm

re: #163 Lucius Septimius

Mmmm. I love baby sheep and baby cow.

You are baaad. I'm gonna' tell my mooom on you.

179 BignJames  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:50:52pm

re: #172 CommonCents

I'm 30 minutes from the nearest real city and it's crystal clear out tonight. Unfortunately I'm surrounded by 60 foot oak trees so I only have a limited view of the sky. In which direction is this Perseus constellation?


Up.

180 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:51:09pm

re: #172 CommonCents

I'm 30 minutes from the nearest real city and it's crystal clear out tonight. Unfortunately I'm surrounded by 60 foot oak trees so I only have a limited view of the sky. In which direction is this Perseus constellation?

N N/W

181 CommonCents  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:51:20pm

re: #176 jcm

2009 Meteor Showers and Viewing Tips

Gracias. It'll be more like 2-4am before that clears my tree line. Maybe next year.

182 Neutral President  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:51:39pm

re: #172 CommonCents

I'm 30 minutes from the nearest real city and it's crystal clear out tonight. Unfortunately I'm surrounded by 60 foot oak trees so I only have a limited view of the sky. In which direction is this Perseus constellation?

Northeast I think but it doesn't really matter, just look straight up you should see one every couple of minutes.

183 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:51:47pm

re: #173 jcm

I'm so bad I wear sunglasses when the clouds thin...

you be cool

184 SummerSong  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:51:55pm

re: #28 Jimmah

Speaking of mad, a friend of mine and his girlfriend, who goaded him into it, set off tomorrow to spend 4 days at this event:

[Link: www.green-grid.co.uk...]

I told him not to eat their cookies, and not to get into the naked hot tub with them. Let's hope he makes it back with his health and sanity intact.

Heh, I'm just heartbroken to have missed this extraordinary event!

"An exhilarating dance event on the evening of Friday 3rd July. Internationally acclaimed tambourine virtuoso Alessandra Belloni will perform the celebrated Tarantella Spider Dance at The Abbey in Sutton Courtenay, Oxfordshire, in her only UK appearance this year."

185 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:52:05pm

re: #175 Lucius Septimius

Insane. Oldest one thinks he's dad. I remind him he's not. Second son is just weird and will tell you that. Baby girl is four and the consummate princess -- though she did get expelled from vacation bible school. Baby is walking around and is Mr. Cool -- some day he'll be sitting on a beach drinking beer and playing guitar. My retirement is all planned out.

Three boys and one girl, who is the second-youngest child.

I PITY THE MAN WHO EVER EVEN THINKS TO BE MEAN TO HER.

186 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:52:06pm

re: #175 Lucius Septimius

Insane. Oldest one thinks he's dad. I remind him he's not. Second son is just weird and will tell you that. Baby girl is four and the consummate princess -- though she did get expelled from vacation bible school. Baby is walking around and is Mr. Cool -- some day he'll be sitting on a beach drinking beer and playing guitar. My retirement is all planned out.

My 2 almost 3 year old girl escaped from mom and bath, streaks (literally) into the kitchen where I'm fixing dinner.
"EAT! DINNER!" she demands.
"Not in your birthday suit." sez I.
At which point she burst into a rousing rendition of "Happy Birthday" dancing around the kitchen.

187 BignJames  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:53:26pm

re: #184 SummerSong

Heh, I'm just heartbroken to have missed this extraordinary event!

"An exhilarating dance event on the evening of Friday 3rd July. Internationally acclaimed tambourine virtuoso Alessandra Belloni will perform the celebrated Tarantella Spider Dance at The Abbey in Sutton Courtenay, Oxfordshire, in her only UK appearance this year."

Lead or rhythm?

188 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:53:30pm

Not Post-Racial Yet

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

Scott’s staff arrived at his Smyrna, Ga., office Tuesday morning to find the Nazi graffiti emblazoned on a sign bearing the lawmaker’s name. The vandalism occurred roughly a week after Scott was involved in a contentious argument over health care at a community meeting.

"Scott, who is black, said he also has received mail in recent days that used N-word references to him, and that characterized President Barack Obama as a Marxist.

“We have got to make sure that the symbol of the swastika does not win, that the racial hatred that’s bubbling up does not win this debate,” Scott said in a telephone interview. “There’s so much hatred out there for President (Barack) Obama.”

A moderate Democrat who represents a majority-white district near Atlanta, Scott said he thinks the racism is isolated but can’t be ignored. He said the swastika probably was intended as a warning. He hopes it instead persuades reasonable people to maintain a more substantive debate over health care changes."

The fact the Scott represents a majority-white district in Georgia suggests that he’s anything but a race-baiting hothead.

Second, there are fascinating results from two polls on the state-level prevalence of the belief that President Obama is not a US citizen.

Tom Jensen of Public Policy Polling has released a preview of a poll showing that 47% of North Carolina Republicans think President Obama is not a citizen — an even more disturbing finding than his previous poll, which found that 41% of Virginia Republicans believed in the myth. By contrast, a Deseret News/KSL-TV poll found that only 13% of Utah Republicans — and 9% of Utahns generally — said that they believe Obama is not a citizen.

The difference is especially remarkable when you consider that Utah is one of the most reliably “red” states in the country, voting for John McCain over Obama last year by 62 to 34 percent.

So what’s behind it? Brendan Nyhan of Pollster.com suggests it has to do with racial polarization– that is, Utah is almost entirely white, while Virginia and North Carolina (both of which Obama carried in the election) have large African-American populations. And Virginia and North Carolina Republicans are overwhelmingly white.

If anyone has a better explanation, I’d be interested.

189 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:54:52pm

re: #184 SummerSong

Heh, I'm just heartbroken to have missed this extraordinary event!

"An exhilarating dance event on the evening of Friday 3rd July. Internationally acclaimed tambourine virtuoso Alessandra Belloni will perform the celebrated Tarantella Spider Dance at The Abbey in Sutton Courtenay, Oxfordshire, in her only UK appearance this year."

This could turn out to be the worst few days of my friend's life.

190 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:57:01pm
191 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:57:34pm

re: #185 MandyManners

I feel sorry for whoever tries to date her.

No, not really, but I figured I'd say it.

192 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:58:11pm

re: #190 taxfreekiller

I don't sleep on rocks.

But after a night on the rocks I sleep well.

193 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:58:17pm

Honey the Movers are here!

Liveleak Video
194 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:59:02pm

re: #186 jcm

My 2 almost 3 year old girl escaped from mom and bath, streaks (literally) into the kitchen where I'm fixing dinner.

As I read this my youngest came streaking through the den. It goes with the age, I am afraid.

195 tradewind  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:59:46pm

Out of her freaking mind:
This is what working for Hillary Clinton will do to ya... it's not just Vince Foster anymore.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

196 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 7:59:57pm

Good evening Lizards. Mt. Wilson doesn't look quite as cloudy as the L.A. basin. Maybe we'll be able to see the meteors from the tower cam.
[Link: www.astro.ucla.edu...]

Hat tip: Ojoe

197 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:00:14pm

re: #194 Lucius Septimius

As I read this my youngest came streaking through the den. It goes with the age, I am afraid.

LOL! Oh, for the video camera to be handy for those moments.

When there sixteen, "Sweetie any boy you bring home to date; sees this video!"

198 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:00:26pm

Fugees - Fugee-La (Sly and Robbie mix)

Youtube Video
199 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:01:12pm

Hmm... Forgot about the f*ckin' meteors. Can a person still see any tonight?

200 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:01:26pm

re: #197 jcm

Trust me -- I have a bunch of photos for the "wedding video."

And for my oldest son, there is the "hippy hoppy frog" song I will teach his bride.

201 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:01:59pm

re: #199 Noam Sayin'

Hmm... Forgot about the f*ckin' meteors. Can a person still see any tonight?

Sure -- just look up and AUUUGHGHGHGHGHGHHGHGHH!!!

Darn, that stings.

202 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:02:02pm

re: #200 Lucius Septimius

Trust me -- I have a bunch of photos for the "wedding video."

And for my oldest son, there is the "hippy hoppy frog" song I will teach his bride.

ROFL! Sweet revenge!

203 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:02:13pm

Oh, wait -- it says "made in China" on it. Figures.

204 tradewind  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:03:48pm

re: #197 jcm

The bad news is when they're sixteen, you just hope ( and get a little proactive parental snooping in to make sure ) they're not sending out videos of their own.

205 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:04:49pm

Bloggers who use wordpress - the new security patch is out now.

206 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:05:07pm

re: #204 tradewind

Oh, I know.

And I shudder to think what the techno/hormone conjuncture will be a decade hence.

207 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:07:01pm

re: #204 tradewind

The bad news is when they're sixteen, you just hope ( and get a little proactive parental snooping in to make sure ) they're not sending out videos of their own.

Quite Concur.

208 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:07:46pm

re: #206 Lucius Septimius

Oh, I know.

And I shudder to think what the techno/hormone conjuncture will be a decade hence.

And that us old farts an keep up!

209 SteveC  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:08:56pm

Good evening, Lizards!

210 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:09:17pm

re: #207 Dark_Falcon

Quite Concur.

threaten them with bodily harm...worked for me

211 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:10:01pm

I've got tons of photos of Mt. McKinley park like this, but none of them are quality enough to enter in the Canon contest - they were all shot from a moving train.

212 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:10:17pm

re: #204 tradewind

The bad news is when they're sixteen, you just hope ( and get a little proactive parental snooping in to make sure ) they're not sending out videos of their own.

Friend of my on or around his daughter's sixteenth birthday, said, "She's not dating till after she's married!"

213 mph  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:10:17pm

Wish I had an SLR. I did get a special gadget for my birthday this year, however -- a Gigapan. Literally a robot that attaches to your digital camera -- and allows you to take upwards of hundreds of fully zoomed in photos of any scene -- and then stitch them back together into one super sized image. The results can be surreal.

Here is an example photo I took recently (.87 gigapixels):
[Link: gigapan.org...]

Here is the most famous Gigapan photo -- the Obama inauguration (1.47 gigapixels):
[Link: gigapan.org...]

214 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:10:41pm

re: #186 jcm

My 2 almost 3 year old girl escaped from mom and bath, streaks (literally) into the kitchen where I'm fixing dinner.
"EAT! DINNER!" she demands.
"Not in your birthday suit." sez I.
At which point she burst into a rousing rendition of "Happy Birthday" dancing around the kitchen.

How do you refute that logic?

215 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:10:54pm

re: #210 albusteve

threaten them with bodily harm...worked for me

We he comes to pick her up, it's gun cleaning time...

216 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:10:56pm

re: #211 Thanos

I've got tons of photos of Mt. McKinley park like this, but none of them are quality enough to enter in the Canon contest - they were all shot from a moving train.

whoa...what a beast!...a big dog that one

217 SteveC  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:12:34pm

re: #210 albusteve

threaten them with bodily harm...worked for me

"You have to leave a $20 deposit to date my daughter. Bring her back one second after 10 PM and you forfeit the deposit."

*Romeo grumbles but comes up with the cash*

"Bring her back unharmed and on time, you get the twenty back. It'll be right here on the mantle, under my .357..."

218 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:12:47pm

re: #191 Lucius Septimius

I feel sorry for whoever tries to date her.

No, not really, but I figured I'd say it.

What is the sound of four shot-guns being pumped?

219 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:12:59pm

re: #214 MandyManners

How do you refute that logic?

LOL!

It makes far more sense that what passes for logic in DC!

220 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:13:41pm

re: #210 albusteve

threaten them with bodily harm...worked for me

Bad idea. Kid decides to record you, and then he owns you. Threats like those you suggest are illegal. If a recording of your threats of violence is made part of a criminal complaint, he may get all the access to your daughter he wants while you sit in a cell. At bare minimum he could get a restraining order, which in my understanding would keep you from buying any more guns or ammo until it is lifted.

221 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:14:20pm

re: #213 mph

Wish I had an SLR. I did get a special gadget for my birthday this year, however -- a Gigapan. Literally a robot that attaches to your digital camera -- and allows you to take upwards of hundreds of fully zoomed in photos of any scene -- and then stitch them back together into one super sized image. The results can be surreal.

Here is an example photo I took recently (.87 gigapixels):
[Link: gigapan.org...]

Here is the most famous Gigapan photo -- the Obama inauguration (1.47 gigapixels):
[Link: gigapan.org...]

You really should blur the license plates when you post photos like that MPH, I always do.

222 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:14:30pm
Youtube Video
223 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:14:35pm

US deficit forecast to be four times last year’s record

To put some context on a new estimate that puts this year’s federal deficit at $1.8 trillion, consider this: That amount had never been spent by the federal government in a single year until 2000, let alone borrowed.

That’s right. As the decade began, the US government spent $1.8 trillion in a year for the first time. Now it’s poised to spend that much in excess of its tax revenues.

The Treasury released the latest figures Wednesday, showing spending of about $3 trillion in the past 10 months, and revenues of only $1.74 trillion.

With two months to go in the fiscal calendar, the Obama administration is projecting that the imbalance will end up totaling $1.84 trillion, more than four times last year’s record-high. The monthly deficit for July, also reported this week, came in a bit above what economists had expected.

And that's without another trillion and a half for socialized health care or the second stimulus many Democrats are clamoring for.

/as we careen off the debt cliff, Obama's got the spending pedal to the metal

224 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:14:48pm
225 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:14:48pm

re: #215 jcm

We he comes to pick her up, it's gun cleaning time...

my wife and I attracted teens like a magnate...fire pit out in back with a cool party chicken coop...they loved us, but the rules was, if you mess with us we will take you down...we had huge highschool parties...the football teams, all of it...other parents really appreciated us...none of it was planned, it just happened that way

226 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:14:51pm

re: #211 Thanos

I've got tons of photos of Mt. McKinley park like this, but none of them are quality enough to enter in the Canon contest - they were all shot from a moving train.

I shot this with my Canon, one handed, point and click while driving on I-5. Mt. Rainier.

227 neocon hippie  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:15:47pm

re: #226 jcm

404 Not Found

228 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:16:13pm

re: #223 Killian Bundy

Oh, but before that happens, Obama will touch the economy and heal it with his royal charisma.

And if you don't say "I believe in fairies" over and over again, Tinkerbell will die. And you don't want to kill Tinkerbell, do you? Huh?

229 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:16:26pm

re: #227 neocon hippie

404 Not Found

What he said

230 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:16:47pm

re: #220 Dark_Falcon

Bad idea. Kid decides to record you, and then he owns you. Threats like those you suggest are illegal. If a recording of your threats of violence is made part of a criminal complaint, he may get all the access to your daughter he wants while you sit in a cell. At bare minimum he could get a restraining order, which in my understanding would keep you from buying any more guns or ammo until it is lifted.

I'm talking about my own kids behavior...don't get hysterical

231 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:17:19pm

re: #225 albusteve

my wife and I attracted teens like a magnate...fire pit out in back with a cool party chicken coop...they loved us, but the rules was, if you mess with us we will take you down...we had huge highschool parties...the football teams, all of it...other parents really appreciated us...none of it was planned, it just happened that way

My dad was / is a Preacher - Missionary. When my sisters were teens, their house was, believe it or not, the place to hang out. When ever a kid in my sisters' high school got in trouble, they'd call my parents first, to help them break it to their own parents.

232 Mich-again  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:17:22pm

I had a nice Minolta 35mm back in the day. (mid 80's) Everything was manual. Also had a decent collection of zoom lenses and filters. Taking pictures was a big deal for us here and then making sure to put all the pictures in albums for safekeeping after having the film developed.

Now its all digital and you can take 1000 pictures on a week vacation. Over a year's time with the kids, its easy to take thousands of pictures. And even though they are all worth keeping there are so many that you can get complacent and not print any of them out to put into photo albums for safekeeping. Sure its a good idea to back up your photo files onto CD at the very least. But even then, you can lose a CD a lot easier than you can lose a photo album.

233 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:17:31pm

re: #227 neocon hippie

404 Not Found

That's okay. You can't see Mt. Rainier when you're in Washington most of the time anyway, at least from Seattle.

234 SteveC  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:17:51pm

re: #223 Killian Bundy

/as we careen off the debt cliff, Obama's got the spending pedal to the metal

Remind anyone of anything?

Youtube Video
235 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:17:56pm

re: #230 albusteve

I'm talking about my own kids behavior...don't get hysterical

I'm not being hysterical, but you did not make that point clear. I understand now.

236 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:18:15pm

re: #227 neocon hippie

404 Not Found

Try again, click for large image.

237 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:19:16pm

The talk this afternoon about knives prompted me to look at the dive-knife I "liberated" from DickHead, a GreenieMeanie.

This fucker is long and does not retract. Every single surface is intended to produce maximum results.

w00t

238 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:19:18pm

re: #233 Slumbering Behemoth

That's okay. You can't see Mt. Rainier when you're in Washington most of the time anyway, at least from Seattle.

Natives are ecstatic when "the Mountain is out!"

239 Cato the Elder  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:20:05pm

Getting hit by a meteorite - no joke.

The first picture with the little graze on the German boy's hand looks like "eh, so?" until you read what the little pebble thingy did when it hit the ground...

The second one you need to scroll down to see.

240 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:20:42pm

re: #238 jcm

Natives are ecstatic when "the Mountain is out!"

I remember that. No one ever said "The Sun is out", they always said "The Mountain is out". It always cracked me up.

241 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:22:17pm

re: #231 jcm

My dad was / is a Preacher - Missionary. When my sisters were teens, their house was, believe it or not, the place to hang out. When ever a kid in my sisters' high school got in trouble, they'd call my parents first, to help them break it to their own parents.

hey...I took alot of other kids on vacation...weekend trips, day trips etc...we never turned anybody away no matter what it cost us...that was our 'mission'...we fed and watered 'em all...pre game and post game...they all wanted to hang out with us...it was a cool thing...we provided all the kids with an environment that they were comfortable with...no drugs, no gangsters...just good solid Rockwell style, small town stuff

242 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:22:21pm

re: #240 Slumbering Behemoth

I remember that. No one ever said "The Sun is out", they always said "The Mountain is out". It always cracked me up.

I lived in Seattle 30 years ago and I could see Mt. Rainier from my house.

Well, if I stood on the sidewalk outside my house and a little bit down the block.

/Tina Fey

243 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:23:03pm

re: #235 Dark_Falcon

I'm not being hysterical, but you did not make that point clear. I understand now.

sorry bro...

244 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:23:39pm

re: #242 Alouette

I think that qualifies you to be a Volcano Czar, or something.
/

245 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:25:46pm

re: #244 Slumbering Behemoth

I think that qualifies you to be a Volcano Czar, or something.
/

so many Czaristas...what happens when they sneak in their own self interests?

246 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:25:48pm

re: #241 albusteve

hey...I took alot of other kids on vacation...weekend trips, day trips etc...we never turned anybody away no matter what it cost us...that was our 'mission'...we fed and watered 'em all...pre game and post game...they all wanted to hang out with us...it was a cool thing...we provided all the kids with an environment that they were comfortable with...no drugs, no gangsters...just good solid Rockwell style, small town stuff

Kids eat it up don't they? Dad never preached or lectured, just a few words when the time was right, just a safe loving place to be.

247 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:26:08pm

re: #244 Slumbering Behemoth

I think that qualifies you to be a Volcano Czar, or something.
/

Well, I am probably more qualified than Bobby Jindal.

248 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:26:54pm

re: #243 albusteve

sorry bro...

It's all good.

249 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:27:13pm

For those lizards who didn't hear, we had a very nice little lizard meet last night in Pasadena. Haakondahl, Redc1c4, Desert Sage, my hubby and myself. It was great.

250 Randall Gross  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:27:23pm

Well see you all a bit later, I'm going to take a drive to see if I can find a dark area to watch for meteors from.

251 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:27:31pm

re: #244 Slumbering Behemoth

I think that qualifies you to be a Volcano Czar, or something.
/

Does Volcano Czar get to pick the virgins?

252 Lucius Septimius  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:28:00pm

Sleep beckons. Ciao, amici.

253 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:28:51pm

My cousin e-mailed me a link to an article about Robert Hill, the head of the Democratic Party in that neck of the woods, calling Young Republicans a bunch of brownshirts when trying to defend Congressman Tanner for not holding town-hall meetings as he had in the past.

Congressman Tanner is refusing to apologize or even address this issue, claiming he is above all that.

Hill is a senior partner in a plaintiff's firm, you know--the ones against addressing health-care costs through tort reform.

254 SteveC  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:29:06pm

What th' hell...?

First Paragraph...

What measures should be taken for the Detection of Occult / hidden cases of congenital heart disease CHD? Since there are still a large number of occult / hidden / asymptomatic cases of CHD, particularly in the late cyanotic or acyanotic (cyanosis in which can not occur)-Group, urgent steps are needed for early detection.

Important safety tip, friends... avoid Voodoo!

255 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:29:13pm

John Daly at Hazeltine National

/takes a certain lack of self-esteem to wear pants like that in public

256 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:30:39pm

re: #251 jcm

What is a "virgin"?
/

257 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:30:46pm

That is not Tanner at the top right.

[Link: www.jacksonsun.com...]

258 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:30:46pm

re: #246 jcm

Kids eat it up don't they? Dad never preached or lectured, just a few words when the time was right, just a safe loving place to be.

love, comfort, respect...children will respond to what they understand...we didn't express are parenthood with a lot of rules and regs...some obviously but we kept it simple and let our kids do the walkin

259 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:32:07pm

re: #256 Slumbering Behemoth

What is a "virgin"?
/

If were gonna' be in runnin' for Volcano Czar we'd better find out!

260 itellu3times  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:32:58pm

re: #7 jcm

Or the huge sensor in a Hasselblad Digital back, $40k just for the back, body and lens not included.

The new 8 meter class telescopes use billion pixel sensors. Kewl, huh?

261 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:34:06pm

re: #249 Pvt Bin Jammin

For those lizards who didn't hear, we had a very nice little lizard meet last night in Pasadena. Haakondahl, Redc1c4, Desert Sage, my hubby and myself. It was great.

KOOL!...I'd be a little reserved to give myself up like that...kind of a chicken

262 tradewind  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:34:21pm

re: #255 Killian Bundy

You'd have to know him to understand just how problematic that self-esteem has been for Daly and those around him.

263 Macker  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:34:25pm

I took the following photo in the fall of 1977, which forever cemented my love of Photography. That was with a Nikkormat FT2 camera.
I had a Canon AE-1 camera for many years following HS graduation. I've been digital since 2002. I've been drooling this Nikon camera, the Coolpix P6000.
Patience, Grasshopper.

264 sngnsgt  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:34:28pm

re: #255 Killian Bundy

Now them's some golf pants, his has doesn't match though. His plaid pants must be at the cleaners.

265 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:34:34pm

re: #259 jcm

I hear they're pretty rare. Don't think I've ever met one.

266 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:35:52pm

re: #260 itellu3times

The new 8 meter class telescopes use billion pixel sensors. Kewl, huh?

Awesome!

Just bought one of these for work 54MP, with a couple lenses, $50K.

267 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:36:20pm

Why do I care about that district?

It's CAPITALISM.

268 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:36:22pm

re: #263 Macker

I took the following photo in the fall of 1977, which forever cemented my love of Photography. That was with a Nikkormat FT2 camera.
I had a Canon AE-1 camera for many years following HS graduation. I've been digital since 2002. I've been drooling this Nikon camera, the Coolpix P6000.
Patience, Grasshopper.

Nice B&W!

269 sngnsgt  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:36:53pm

re: #264 sngnsgt

Doh! has=hat

270 itellu3times  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:37:10pm

re: #266 jcm

Awesome!

Just bought one of these for work 54MP, with a couple lenses, $50K.

So, no more sitting on the copier?

/

271 Macker  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:37:18pm

re: #268 jcm

Thank you! It was a stormy afternoon on Lake Meecheegan...

272 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:37:59pm

re: #270 itellu3times

So, no more sitting on the copier?

/

We can make the smallest thing look BIG!

273 Mich-again  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:38:53pm

re: #263 Macker

Nice. That is a great photo.

274 itellu3times  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:39:04pm

re: #266 jcm

Waitaminute, that's a microscope!?! Never thought about it, but yeah.

275 mph  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:39:32pm

I'm working on a 3.3 gigapixel photo in Photoshop right now -- a 10 gig file.

almost impossible to work with at that size and only 4gb of memory.

276 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:40:30pm

don't let the politicians slow you down...

Youtube Video
277 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:40:55pm

re: #275 mph

I'm working on a 3.3 gigapixel photo in Photoshop right now -- a 10 gig file.

almost impossible to work with at that size and only 4gb of memory.

That's a whale of an image. Why so big?

278 SteveC  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:41:53pm

re: #271 Macker

Thank you! It was a stormy afternoon on Lake Meecheegan...

Don't tell me you were a deck hand on the Edmund Fitzgerald

279 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:42:20pm

re: #261 albusteve

KOOL!...I'd be a little reserved to give myself up like that...kind of a chicken

We all met at a restaurant near the freeway, not at my home or anything. Sage and I have been friends for two years and I have talked to Red on the phone. Haakondahl was the only out of the area guy. He's the nicest guy.

280 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:43:20pm

re: #278 SteveC

Don't tell me you were a deck hand on the Edmund Fitzgerald

That would make him a ghost. No one survived her sinking.

281 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:43:42pm

re: #278 SteveC

Don't tell me you were a deck hand on the Edmund Fitzgerald

That was on Lake Superior.

282 SteveC  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:43:56pm

re: #272 jcm

We can make the smallest thing look BIG!

Bob Ewbanks: "Men, what is your wife's bra size?"

Contestant: "A"

Bob: "I'm sorry?"

Contestant: "So am I."

283 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:44:17pm

re: #274 itellu3times

Waitaminute, that's a microscope!?! Never thought about it, but yeah.

It's got some cool digital tricks. You know how the focal length at high magnification is very narrow, you can run up through all the focal planes and get a 3D object in focus throughout the focal planes, and generate a 3D image.

284 mph  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:44:27pm

re: #277 Jimmah

That's a whale of an image. Why so big?

885 individual 8 megapixel images, spliced together into one monster file.

285 tradewind  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:45:00pm

re: #278 SteveC
One of the best songs ever...makes me sad that it sprang from an actual tragedy.

286 sngnsgt  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:45:25pm

Democratic Underground's version of humor:

Link

287 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:45:58pm

rise up to the new danws early morning...it's your Saving Grace

Youtube Video
288 itellu3times  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:47:12pm

re: #275 mph

I'm working on a 3.3 gigapixel photo in Photoshop right now -- a 10 gig file.

almost impossible to work with at that size and only 4gb of memory.

When I was a boy we had to do those on punched cards, and the chad alone would choke a moose.

289 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:47:25pm

re: #279 Pvt Bin Jammin

We all met at a restaurant near the freeway, not at my home or anything. Sage and I have been friends for two years and I have talked to Red on the phone. Haakondahl was the only out of the area guy. He's the nicest guy.

Haak the Flathead...sounds like a lot of fun

290 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:48:20pm

re: #284 mph

885 individual 8 megapixel images, spliced together into one monster file.

I can almost smell the smoke coming from the back of your computer! Art project? Technical?

291 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:48:36pm

re: #275 mph

I'm working on a 3.3 gigapixel photo in Photoshop right now -- a 10 gig file.

almost impossible to work with at that size and only 4gb of memory.

Get a pair of 10,000 rpm drives and stripe them as your scratch disk.

292 SteveC  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:48:38pm

re: #285 tradewind

One of the best songs ever...makes me sad that it sprang from an actual tragedy.

On vacation in Minnesota, a hotel lobby had a map of Superior with every shipwreck before 2002 marked. Took a little searching (and recalling song lyrics) but there she was.

X
Edmund Fitzgerald

293 tradewind  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:48:41pm

re: #279 Pvt Bin Jammin

What, no SpaceJesus?
Bo-Ring...
/joking/

294 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:49:59pm

Goin to Mexico...
in a 53 Studebaker

Youtube Video
295 Mich-again  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:50:45pm

Photo of a painting... J.W. Westcott II. The Detroit River Mailboat that rides alongside freighters to deliver US Mail to merchant marines and transfer people on and off ships while they travel through Detroit.

Leo painted that in 2001 and we bought the original from him at the Wyandotte Street Fair that summer. The green sky conjured up an image of the worst storm I remember. Had to have it.

Then within a year the boat sank and 2 people died, and 2 others died when they fell into the River while painting the Bridge. And don't get me started about the imagery of the tattered flag or the twin bridge towers or the fact the boat had II in its name or the story about anthrax attacks on the US Mail during the same period.

I saw Leo a couple years later and jokingly blamed it all on the green sky in his painting.

296 tradewind  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:50:53pm

re: #292 SteveC

I've never heard anyone pronounce' Detroit' like Gordon Lightfoot... he even made it sound pretty...

297 SteveC  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:51:03pm

Milli Vanni just popped up on my XM. Now there's a shipwreck!

298 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:51:08pm

[Link: www.jacksonsun.com...]

299 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:51:46pm

re: #285 tradewind

One of the best songs ever...makes me sad that it sprang from an actual tragedy.

Here's Gordon Lightfoot performing The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald in 1979.

Youtube Video
300 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:52:09pm

re: #296 tradewind

I've never heard anyone pronounce' Detroit' like Gordon Lightfoot... he even made it sound pretty...

post it

301 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:52:48pm

re: #289 albusteve

Haak the Flathead...sounds like a lot of fun


LOL

302 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:53:34pm

re: #300 albusteve

post it

See my #299.

303 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:53:41pm

re: #293 tradewind

What, no SpaceJesus?
Bo-Ring...
/joking/

Now that might scare me, even at a restaurant. LOL

304 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:55:25pm

re: #296 tradewind

I've never heard anyone pronounce' Detroit' like Gordon Lightfoot... he even made it sound pretty...

On an overcast day
In Detroit they prayed
At the Mariners' Sailors' Cathedral
The Church bells chimed twenty-nine times
For each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald

305 tradewind  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:55:33pm

re: #300 albusteve

Youtube Video
306 Mich-again  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:56:04pm

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

Here's Gordon Lightfoot performing The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald in 1979.

I hung the Westcott painting next to a print by the same artist of the Edmund Fitzgerald. In retrospect a mistake seeing as that boat then proceeded to sink too.

307 tradewind  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:56:43pm

re: #299 Dark_Falcon

/Shoulda checked up threadr... sorry DF.../

308 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:56:52pm

Lake Superior eats ships for breakfast...spits em out later...the Ed went down in deep water...just gone, I remember it well

309 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:58:35pm

A little Dylan for a steamy Wednesday night (no video).

Youtube Video
310 SteveC  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:58:45pm

re: #308 albusteve

Lake Superior eats ships for breakfast...spits em out later...the Ed went down in deep water...just gone, I remember it well

The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
Of the big lake they call Gitche Gumee
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
When the skies of November turn gloomy.

With a load of iron ore - 26,000 tons more
Than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty
That good ship and true was a bone to be chewed
When the gales of November came early

311 tradewind  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:59:32pm

re: #304 Alouette

Lightfoot took a little artistic license with that one, and changed it to

In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed
At the Maritime Sailor's Cathedral
312 Mich-again  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:59:40pm

re: #308 albusteve

Lake Superior eats ships for breakfast...spits em out later...the Ed went down in deep water...just gone, I remember it well

I have waded in the water of Lake Superior at Whitefish Point. In the dead of Summer the water is so cold it hurts just to walk ankle deep. A few brave souls were swimming but not for long.

313 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 8:59:52pm

re: #307 tradewind

/Shoulda checked up threadr... sorry DF.../

You're fine. An interesting aspect of the vid was that it shows us an early live use of a synthesizer. During the 80's this would become routine, but it was still a new thing in 1979.

314 tradewind  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:01:38pm

re: #313 Dark_Falcon

He's just a classic... ' Carefree Highway' 's one of my favorites as well. I wonder if he's still singing/alive.

315 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:01:45pm

re: #311 tradewind

Lightfoot took a little artistic license with that one, and changed it to

In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed
At the Maritime Sailor's Cathedral

It's actually called the Mariner's Church, not Sailor's Cathedral. When I used to work in Detroit I walked past it many times. Very old historic site.

316 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:02:14pm

re: #312 Mich-again

I have waded in the water of Lake Superior at Whitefish Point. In the dead of Summer the water is so cold it hurts just to walk ankle deep. A few brave souls were swimming but not for long.

I've been all around that beast...Lake Superior will kill you in a heartbeat

317 SteveC  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:02:54pm

Well, I'm off - hope everyone has a great evening!

318 Mich-again  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:03:38pm

re: #313 Dark_Falcon

You're fine. An interesting aspect of the vid was that it shows us an early live use of a synthesizer. During the 80's this would become routine, but it was still a new thing in 1979.

I remember an Emerson Lake and Palmer song "Oooh what a lucky man, he was" from the early '70's when the Moog synthesizer was first coming out. And Jeff Lyne and ELO made a career with the synthesizer too in the early to mid '70's.

319 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:04:02pm

re: #309 Noam Sayin'

A little Dylan for a steamy Wednesday night (no video).


Dylan at his finest...his opus magnus or whatever you call it

320 ryannon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:04:33pm

Those people at the bird rehab center are doing great work.

[Link: www.rogerswildlife.org...]

321 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:05:00pm

re: #318 Mich-again

I remember an Emerson Lake and Palmer song "Oooh what a lucky man, he was" from the early '70's when the Moog synthesizer was first coming out. And Jeff Lyne and ELO made a career with the synthesizer too in the early to mid '70's.

Moody Blues used it

322 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:07:13pm

Big Jim was no ones fool
he owned the towns only diamond mine
heh

323 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:09:12pm

re: #321 albusteve

Moody Blues used it

ELO, Moody Blues...

Nights In White Satin Live 2000 - The Moody Blues

Youtube Video
324 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:10:17pm

re: #318 Mich-again

I remember an Emerson Lake and Palmer song "Oooh what a lucky man, he was" from the early '70's when the Moog synthesizer was first coming out. And Jeff Lyne and ELO made a career with the synthesizer too in the early to mid '70's.

I stand corrected.

325 Psaturn  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:12:20pm

I got this camera (Canon EOS 5D mark II) and I have to say I love it!

Canon also has hosted some classes in LA area (at the Directors Guild of America in Hollywood no less!) and had several prominent photographers teach the day long class including well known Vincent Laforet. I thoroughly enjoyed the class and interacting with world class photographers!

It was interesting to note that the economy has impacted even these world class photographers. And now news photographers are expected to do video too to stay competitive. This camera will be a must for news photographers.

The video quality for this Canon is just amazing and it is attracting the attention from cinematographers. The quality of video is similar to digital video camera costing quarter million dollars! The key thing is the size of the chip. It is full size 35 mm CMOS chip and normally in video cameras they are smaller.

I used Canon 20 D for years and so I was pretty familiar with the settings on the new 5D.

The trouble with this new camera is the large file size for the pictures. About 25 megabytes for each picture. And the need for processing power for computer. That triggered a need for a faster laptop and so I ordered a Quad Core Intel Penryn 2.53 ghz processor 2.55 ghz with NVIDIA Quadro FX 2700M graphics card with triple channel RAM that can be maxed out at 16 gigs. Imagine a Quad Core processor in a laptop! I knew that it would drain batteries so I ordered another 12 cell battery to supplement the 9 cell.

I had choice between raw power versus portability like Apple Mac Pro laptops and I went for the power (and 9.5 pounds of weight).

So far, the Tamron lenses have served me well for the Canon camera for half the price of similar L series Canon lenses. The Tamron 70-200 mm lens with 2.8 aperture is a monster...needs a tripod to hold that lens! Because of the large size chip and increased resolution of 21 megapixels, having an excellent lens is crucial for this camera. I was glad to hear that Zeiss was going to introduce their lenses on Canon mounts soon.

326 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:12:27pm

re: #303 Pvt Bin Jammin

SpaceJesus may say some outrageous or stupid stuff here, but I have actually seen him go to sites hostile to LGF and clown them, or school them on how they are lying about us.

I think he's cool enough, but I definitely ain't down with his anti-southern states rhetoric.

327 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:13:37pm

re: #323 jcm

ELO, Moody Blues...

Nights In White Satin Live 2000 - The Moody Blues

[Video]

yes...many times I saw them do that, back in the day

328 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:14:46pm

re: #319 albusteve

Dylan at his finest...his opus magnus or whatever you call it

That's my favorite album.

329 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:15:42pm

re: #327 albusteve

yes...many times I saw them do that, back in the day

I've seen the whole Moody Blues, Prince Albert Hall concert on PBS. For you musically knowledgeable lizards; what's with the plexiglass between the drummers and lead guitar / vocalists?

330 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:16:43pm

re: #329 jcm

It's so the guitar/vocalist mics don't pick up the drum beats.

331 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:17:13pm

Learn to swear in French with Les Sex Pistols

[Link: arts.hurryupharry.org...]

332 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:17:25pm

re: #330 Slumbering Behemoth

It's so the guitar/vocalist mics don't pick up the drum beats.

At least, that's how it was explained to me. I really don't know much about playing music.

333 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:17:48pm

re: #328 Noam Sayin'

That's my favorite album.

no question about it...I haul that thing with with me wherever I go...a magnificent piece of work...he probably considers it junk...

334 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:18:29pm

re: #331 Jimmah

"You see, they are as drunk as I am".

WIN!

335 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:18:50pm

re: #330 Slumbering Behemoth

It's so the guitar/vocalist mics don't pick up the drum beats.

Makes sense, I figured it was an acoustically thing, but was wondering if the drummer had a penchant for loose drum sticks.

336 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:19:09pm

re: #330 Slumbering Behemoth

It's so the guitar/vocalist mics don't pick up the drum beats.

right...

337 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:20:56pm

re: #335 jcm

Makes sense, I figured it was an acoustically thing, but was wondering if the drummer had a penchant for loose drum sticks.

no...John Bonham is long gone...RIP you maniac

338 Mich-again  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:23:23pm

re: #319 albusteve

In Dylan's Bio he paid homage to Hank Williams as being one of his biggest influences. Its so true looking back now. I "discovered" the classic HW music just a few years back and its incredible stuff. My fave is Long Gone Lonesome Blues or maybe Lost Highway. But its easy to picture Dylan listening to that as a kid and reaching for the guitar.

339 tradewind  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:23:37pm

Not to go on topic, but damn...
that video is from a camera for the general public?
It really doesn't seem any different from a television documentary in hi-def.
Amazing.

340 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:23:51pm

re: #336 albusteve

I got something right? That almost never happens. What do I win?

341 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:24:25pm

always their encore...rock

Youtube Video
342 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:25:26pm

re: #326 Slumbering Behemoth

SpaceJesus may say some outrageous or stupid stuff here, but I have actually seen him go to sites hostile to LGF and clown them, or school them on how they are lying about us.

I think he's cool enough, but I definitely ain't down with his anti-southern states rhetoric.

Agreed about his take on the south.

Maybe he's okay. I did notice he kinda gave them a hard time over at the blomocracy. ;-)

343 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:26:40pm

re: #340 Slumbering Behemoth

I got something right? That almost never happens. What do I win?

Ohhh! Mandy! We have a winnar!

344 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:26:51pm

re: #334 Slumbering Behemoth

"You see, they are as drunk as I am".

WIN!

"Et presque aussi ivres que moi", as they say in Paris.

It's educational!

Youtube Video
345 Psaturn  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:27:14pm

re: #46 zombie

The Canon EOS 5D Mark II is no mere "gadget": I wager it's the best camera ever made.

ISO up to 25,600? ? ? ? That is just insane. You can basically take pictures in total darkness and they'll still come out.

21 megapixels? Detail down to the cellular level.

Any freaking Canon lens on earth, insta-snap-on the SLR body? O.M.G. Among the best and most interesting lens selections imaginable. Infinite possibilities, from outer space photography to microscopy to sports photos to anything.

4 pictures per second in rapid-repeat mode? Holy Cow.

Etc. etc.

Plus, you can make movies with it.

Basically, if you had this camera only 20 years ago, you could rule the world.

Hi Zombie!! You are right on the ruling the world..LOL

You cannot just use any Canon Lens. I learned this hard lesson on ebay. I won a bid for a 1.4 50 mm lens Canon lens for a low price and found out it did not fit my Canon lens. It was an FD mount. It fitted on the old line like AE1 camera. Oops!

And also the EFs series lenses will not fit this camera either.

346 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:27:17pm

re: #326 Slumbering Behemoth

SpaceJesus may say some outrageous or stupid stuff here, but I have actually seen him go to sites hostile to LGF and clown them, or school them on how they are lying about us.

I think he's cool enough, but I definitely ain't down with his anti-southern states rhetoric.

Space is like earth...
Mostly Harmless.

347 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:28:00pm

re: #338 Mich-again

In Dylan's Bio he paid homage to Hank Williams as being one of his biggest influences. Its so true looking back now. I "discovered" the classic HW music just a few years back and its incredible stuff. My fave is Long Gone Lonesome Blues or maybe Lost Highway. But its easy to picture Dylan listening to that as a kid and reaching for the guitar.

yes...I have enormous respect for Dylan the writer...he has always dumped on his fans tho...I have a passion for live music...it's like if his fans really dig something he changes it all around then claims license...his live gigs are awful, you don't even know what you are hearing...just my opinion

348 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:29:43pm

re: #340 Slumbering Behemoth

I got something right? That almost never happens. What do I win?

a guitar pick...dig it

349 slokat  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:32:22pm

re: #345 Psaturn

Hi Zombie!! You are right on the ruling the world..LOL

You cannot just use any Canon Lens. I learned this hard lesson on ebay. I won a bid for a 1.4 50 mm lens Canon lens for a low price and found out it did not fit my Canon lens. It was an FD mount. It fitted on the old line like AE1 camera. Oops!

And also the EFs series lenses will not fit this camera either.

...and any way you are still stuck with Cannon lenses that are very inferior to Nikon.

350 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:33:13pm

re: #342 Pvt Bin Jammin

Yeah, he's okay. That doesn't I think he should get a pass on the anti-south stuff. Let 'em have it, he can take it.

351 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:34:46pm

muzak...the real deal

Youtube Video
352 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:35:33pm

re: #343 jcm

Ohhh! Mandy! We have a winnar!

Oh Joy! Does that mean mean I get a *whack*? She's been holding out on me since my response to the first one. Meanie.
/

353 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:35:53pm

re: #346 jcm

Space is like earth...
Mostly Harmless.

Nice Douglas Adams reference. upding.

354 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:37:32pm

re: #348 albusteve

a guitar pick...dig it

Better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. I'll take it!

355 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:38:37pm

re: #353 Dark_Falcon

Nice Douglas Adams reference. upding.

Not many place can I drop HHGTTG reference and they get picked up.

356 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:39:07pm

re: #326 Slumbering Behemoth

SpaceJesus may say some outrageous or stupid stuff here, but I have actually seen him go to sites hostile to LGF and clown them, or school them on how they are lying about us.

Did you see him on LGF2? He was awesome. In fact, I declare Spacejesus the winner of that blog.

357 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:40:28pm

re: #356 Jimmah

Did you see him on LGF2? He was awesome. In fact, I declare Spacejesus the winner of that blog.

That's like saying that Cookie Monster is the toughest Muppet. SpaceJesus would automatically win over there because he is a sane person.

358 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:40:46pm

re: #356 Jimmah

Did you see him on LGF2? He was awesome. In fact, I declare Spacejesus the winner of that blog.

Fine, since LGF2 is largely populated by losers.

359 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:41:40pm

re: #356 Jimmah

Did you see him on LGF2? He was awesome. In fact, I declare Spacejesus the winner of that blog.

Some day, other blogs will think twice about lying about LGF for fear SpaceJesus will be unleashed upon them. :p

360 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:42:42pm

re: #356 Jimmah

No, but I am aware of it. I did see him go to a website and comment on an article Charles linked that was basically lying about LGF. SpaceJesus pwnd 'em.

361 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:43:11pm

re: #360 Slumbering Behemoth

He's the ultimate secret weapon!

362 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:43:27pm

re: #357 Dark_Falcon

That's like saying that Cookie Monster is the toughest Muppet. SpaceJesus would automatically win over there because he is a sane person.

Hey now, let's not get carried away here.
/

363 Scion9  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:44:32pm

re: #359 Sharmuta

Unfortunately LGF will also have to live in fear of those occasions that SpaceJesus is unleashed upon us. It's a double edged sword to be sure.

364 albusteve  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:45:02pm

re: #354 Slumbering Behemoth

Better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. I'll take it!

I have a pick...used by Richards at the Detroit Bridges to Babylon tour show...to me it's priceless

365 subsailor68  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:45:24pm

Evening all! It was wonderful to see the Moody Blues in concert, and ti read the discussion posts on the cameras.

Just got back from interring my mother's ashes in a small town in upstate New York. While we were doing that, my cousin Lynne turned off her phone. Ten minutes later, she turned her phone back on, and immediately retrieved a message that her dad, my mother's oldest brother, had just died. He left this world at precisely the same moment my mother's ashes were placed in her final resting place.

What does that all mean? I don't know, nor would I hazard a guess.

I simply reflect on the uselessness of a camera to capture anything other than life. I'm so glad we have it for that, but am reminded that it cannot ever capture anything but that - when we celebrate the passing of a beloved friend, brother, father - whomever - the sadness happens far too quickly for the shutter to open and close quickly enough to record true emotions as they play out in real time.

And that's as it should be. Those moments should always be captured by the mind's eye - and naught else.

Goodbye, Uncle Dick. My mind's eye remembers you as you would wish to be remembered. And I promise it shall be that...forever.

366 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:47:10pm

re: #363 Scion9

Unfortunately LGF will also have to live in fear of those occasions that SpaceJesus is unleashed upon us. It's a double edged sword to be sure.

Yeah, but here his screwiness is mostly in good humor. When he goes after Rodan's Asshole Clan (aka LGF 2.0) he gets nasty. I almost have pity on those losers. Almost.

367 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:47:13pm

re: #360 Slumbering Behemoth

Some of his comments there, for your pleasure:

lol @ this site
...

seriously. this site and the people involved in it are so sad, it fills me up with edgar allen poe type sadness.
...

one of the things i love about the internet is that you can occassionally interact with crazy people, without having to smell them or smell where they live.

here, i’m actually kind of noticing a distinct stench of cheetos, old clothes, loneliness, and old man sweat coming from my computer monitor… how is this possible. i think i need to leave.

368 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:49:15pm

re: #367 Jimmah

Some of his comments there, for your pleasure:

lol @ this site
...

seriously. this site and the people involved in it are so sad, it fills me up with edgar allen poe type sadness.
...

one of the things i love about the internet is that you can occassionally interact with crazy people, without having to smell them or smell where they live.

here, i’m actually kind of noticing a distinct stench of cheetos, old clothes, loneliness, and old man sweat coming from my computer monitor… how is this possible. i think i need to leave.

LMAO! Do you hear that bell ringing, Rodan? 'Cause SpaceJesus just schooled your ass.

369 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:49:20pm

re: #364 albusteve

Not into The Stones myself, but that is freaking awesome. Do you have it in some kind of display case or something?

370 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:50:29pm

re: #365 subsailor68

Sub, my condolences, and drinks are on me tonight.

371 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:50:31pm

re: #359 Sharmuta

Some day, other blogs will think twice about lying about LGF for fear SpaceJesus will be unleashed upon them. :p

Definitely. They couldn't handle him. The best they could manage was to call him 'spacecadet'...lol.

372 Psaturn  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:51:07pm

re: #349 slokat

...and any way you are still stuck with Cannon lenses that are very inferior to Nikon.

Well that is your opinion...

There are quite a few professional photographers in the field using Canon L series lenses with great results.

However, I am using Tamron pro series lenses with great results...and they make lenses for both Nikon and Canon. Like I said, Zeiss is going to make Canon mount lenses and there would be no argument which lens is superior!!

Either way, it is how you use the camera and lenses and flashes that is important, not the brand name. I actually used a point and shoot camera for a scenery and the picture came out sublime and ethereal. I was traveling at that time for enjoyment and thus did not want to be burdened with a heavy SLR.

That is why the Olympus Four Third series lenses is such an attractive idea. An SLR in a very small compact body form (it skips the mirror altogether).

373 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:51:36pm

re: #363 Scion9

Unfortunately LGF will also have to live in fear of those occasions that SpaceJesus is unleashed upon us. It's a double edged sword to be sure.

He's not afraid to confront LGF bashers, and I think that's commendable.

374 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:52:01pm

re: #366 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, but here his screwiness is mostly in good humor. When he goes after Rodan's Asshole Clan (aka LGF 2.0) he gets nasty. I almost have pity on those losers. Almost.

good lord, lgf and lgf 2 look like high school cliques bitching about each other.

375 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:54:02pm

re: #365 subsailor68

Damn, that's a rough week. My sympathies for both of your loses.

376 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:54:45pm

re: #374 coldwarrior

good lord, lgf and lgf 2 look like high school cliques bitching about each other.

Yeah, but we're the cool kids and they're the Goths moping behind the school.

377 tradewind  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:55:12pm

...ruh roh...re: #374 coldwarrior
Oh no, you di-hunt...

378 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:56:22pm

re: #374 coldwarrior

good lord, lgf and lgf 2 look like high school cliques bitching about each other.

What's the matter, did spacejesus make you cry? Just for you:

Image: violin.jpg

379 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:57:25pm

re: #378 Jimmah

Or this even:

Image: 2009_02_violin.jpg

380 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:57:29pm

re: #378 Jimmah

huh? 404

381 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:58:35pm

re: #380 coldwarrior
huh? 404
^
^

382 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:58:38pm

re: #379 Jimmah

oh, cool! the worlds smallest violin...i dont think that's appropriate for my post, but OK.

383 tradewind  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:59:01pm

re: #380 coldwarrior

Looks like he was shooting for a clip of someone playing a sad song on the violin...
YouTube's more reliable for links like that.

384 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 9:59:37pm

re: #383 tradewind

yep.

385 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:00:08pm

re: #374 coldwarrior

There is a difference. The stalkers obsess over LGF, and pretty much every thread over there is ripped off from Charles' thread posts over here.

That, and they spend pretty much all of their time talking about how much they hate us, much like a manic ex girlfriend that has just been dumped and can't let go, whereas we only talk about them once in a while.

386 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:00:24pm

re: #382 coldwarrior

oh, cool! the worlds smallest violin...i dont think that's appropriate for my post, but OK.

Tip for you - don't try to draw an equivalence between this site and that moron filled cesspit unless you are looking to get booted out of here on your arse.

387 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:01:41pm

re: #385 Slumbering Behemoth

look, i was outside watching the meteors and was reading lgf (under red light, yeah, imma geek) and checked out both sides. i call it like i see it tonight.

388 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:01:46pm

re: #383 tradewind

Looks like he was shooting for a clip of someone playing a sad song on the violin...
YouTube's more reliable for links like that.

Um - no, I was shooting for a picture of the world smallest violin.

389 slokat  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:01:54pm

re: #372 Psaturn

Well that is your opinion...

Backed up by cold hard scientific facts.

And, Zeiss has fantastic niche lenses, good for specific limited uses.

390 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:04:12pm

re: #387 coldwarrior

look, i was outside watching the meteors and was reading lgf (under red light, yeah, imma geek) and checked out both sides. i call it like i see it tonight.

If what you see leads you to draw a direct equivalence between the two sites, perhaps it's time to update the prescription for your glasses.

391 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:05:01pm

re: #387 coldwarrior

I hope you enjoy fleas.

392 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:06:38pm

re: #386 Jimmah

Tip for you - don't try to draw an equivalence between this site and that moron filled cesspit unless you are looking to get booted out of here on your arse.

equivalence, no. bitchy high school cliques, yes. its like reading diaries of scorned lovers. i've been her long enough, i've seen the wars. it just seems silly to me.

393 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:06:46pm

re: #391 Sharmuta

I hope you enjoy fleas.

Very good point, Sharm. And with that, I must retire for the evening. I have to be up at 5AM to catch a flight. I may not be back here on LGF til Saturday so stay scaly until then, Lizards!

394 MJ  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:06:48pm

Outrage of the Day:

Yale Press Bans Images of Muhammad in New Book

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

This is an Academic book and Yale caved in.

Outrageous.

395 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:06:56pm

re: #387 coldwarrior

look, i was outside watching the meteors and was reading lgf (under red light, yeah, imma geek) and checked out both sides. i call it like i see it tonight.

Youtube Video

you know, tradewind was right - you tube is better for this sort of thing!

396 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:07:26pm

re: #395 Jimmah

better!

397 MJ  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:08:05pm

re: #394 MJ

Outrage of the Day:

Yale Press Bans Images of Muhammad in New Book

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

This is an Academic book and Yale caved in.

Outrageous.

This is a book about the controversy.

398 Psaturn  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:09:31pm

re: #389 slokat

Backed up by cold hard scientific facts.

Uhm, really? What is your "scientific" sources?

Then how come in the field you will find more professionals using Canon lenses? That is folks using these tools to make a living. And they would have a choice in using the best tools possible as they make sizeable income from it. These are very knowledgeable experienced folks.

And not only professionals but artists also who need the best camera and lenses combination to accomplish and acquire their artistic vision.

That is like arguing which is better, a Mac or a PC?

399 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:09:51pm

re: #397 MJ

This is a book about the controversy.

And they can't show what the controversy was about?

WTF?

400 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:10:19pm

re: #393 Dark_Falcon

Have a good one DF - see you later.

401 Scion9  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:10:39pm

re: #394 MJ

Color me unsurprised.

402 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:12:16pm

re: #392 coldwarrior

Look, if my obsessive ex girlfriend is going around dragging my name in the mud, and spreading lies about me, of course I am going to say something about it.

Like that. This whole thing between the two sites is gigantically lop-sided. If you can't see that, there is something wrong with your head.

403 MJ  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:12:34pm

re: #399 jcm

And they can't show what the controversy was about?

WTF?

Even Reza Aslan, who is usually an apologist for Radical Islam, thinks it's idiotic:

Reza Aslan, a religion scholar and the author of “No god but God: The Origins, Evolution, and Future of Islam,” is a fan of the book but decided to withdraw his supportive blurb that was to appear in the book after Yale University Press dropped the pictures. The book is “a definitive account of the entire controversy,” he said, “but to not include the actual cartoons is to me, frankly, idiotic.”

In Mr. Aslan’s view no danger remains. “The controversy has died out now, anyone who wants to see them can see them,” he said of the cartoons, noting that he has written and lectured extensively about the incident and shown the cartoons without any negative reaction. He added that none of the violence occurred in the United States: “There were people who were annoyed, and what kind of publishing house doesn’t publish something that annoys some people?”

“This is an academic book for an academic audience by an academic press,” he continued. “There is no chance of this book having a global audience, let alone causing a global outcry.” He added, “It’s not just academic cowardice, it is just silly and unnecessary.”

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

404 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:13:37pm
405 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:14:11pm

re: #390 Slumbering Behemoth

If what you see leads you to draw a direct equivalence between the two sites, perhaps it's time to update the prescription for your glasses.

left eye 20/15 (w/ slight astigmatism) right eye 20/10.

i am slightly dichromatic colorblind tho.

406 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:15:42pm

re: #402 Slumbering Behemoth

Look, if my obsessive ex girlfriend is going around dragging my name in the mud, and spreading lies about me, of course I am going to say something about it.

Like that. This whole thing between the two sites is gigantically lop-sided. If you can't see that, there is something wrong with your head.

sure, yer right. but it just seems like such a waste to have a bunch of people that are mostly in agreement bad mouthing each other. it just seems, well, wrong somehow.

407 subsailor68  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:19:55pm

Well all, must go. Thanks for the kind comments, and I will be back soon! I hope everyone here has a wonderful evening!

408 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:21:10pm

re: #406 coldwarrior

sure, yer right. but it just seems like such a waste to have a bunch of people that are mostly in agreement bad mouthing each other. it just seems, well, wrong somehow.

MOSTLY IN AGREEMENT? Are you on acid? We are talking here about a bunch of racists, nirthers, creationists, anti-vaxxers, genocide advocates, basically - advocates of just about every bigotry and idiotarianism in the book.

409 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:21:26pm

re: #407 subsailor68

sorry for your loss, subsailor.

prayers.

410 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:22:23pm

re: #406 coldwarrior

The haters didn't get kicked out of here for nothing, CW. Charles is a more than reasonable host, and they pushed the limits of his patience too far.

And I don't see how I can be "mostly in agreement" with someone when they spend the majority of their time talking shit about me.

411 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:23:50pm

re: #407 subsailor68

Well all, must go. Thanks for the kind comments, and I will be back soon! I hope everyone here has a wonderful evening!

Take care. My deepest sympathies.

412 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:24:35pm
413 Silvergirl  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:25:14pm

re: #93 MandyManners

I cooked a pork meat loaf tonight that had a layer of almost-opaque white bubbling on the top--I thought it was gonna' grow an arm and reach out to grab me. Never in my life have I baked anything that scared me.

I've bred some interesting stuff in the refigerator--like the left-over 1995 Thanksgiving turkey I found in late February that had a pink fuzz on it and appeared to be breathing. And, I'll never forget the 1999 black-eyed-pea-and-tuna salad--it produced such interesting colors and shapes of mold that I shot a whole roll of film.

But, this creation bubbled and burbled. I actually leapt into the air sideways when I got it to the sink so that I could hit the disposer's switch at the same time I dumped it down the drain.

What did humanity do before the garbage disposer?

My favorite part! I've never been so intrigued by old fridge food that I photographed any. I've created a few mold monsters worthy of a roll of film, but let the chance go by. From now on they'll smile for the camera before they meet their fate in the disposal.

414 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:26:55pm

re: #408 Jimmah

MOSTLY IN AGREEMENT? Are you on acid? We are talking here about a bunch of racists, nirthers, creationists, anti-vaxxers, genocide advocates, basically - advocates of just about every bigotry and idiotarianism in the book.

am i on acid...not right now.
*legal warning, I am not registered at any other blog type site other than lgf*

i know the names from way back on 2.0(and i am mostly talking about them) each may have a single disagreement issue. lumping issues on that site is like lumping issues anywhere else, its like a stereotype.

guess what, i'd like to see the nirth cert. and some vaccines do carry a high risk in a given population.

415 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:27:45pm

Just curious: If I've posted a spinoff link and it has 10 updings is there a reason why it wouldn't appear among the 'Top Links Overall' ?

416 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:29:57pm

re: #415 Ringo the Gringo

Affirmative Action? You are a Gringo, after all.
/

417 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:29:59pm

re: #412 MikeySDCA

My impression is that he was talking about those on this thread, who have been reasonably civilized.

well, no, i am opening a can o' worms tho!

hopefully they are blood worms so i can catch some stripers...strypers if yer metal!

418 slokat  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:32:04pm

re: #398 Psaturn

I'm in the field as a semi pro, and the trend that I see is back to Nikon, due to superior optics. Plus specs don't lie, the hype about cannon is similar to hope & change...

BTW, I freely admit to a Nikon bias, including previously having adapters so that my Cannon could use my Nikon lenses.

419 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:33:08pm
420 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:33:29pm

re: #417 coldwarrior

Oh shit! Now you've really gone and done it. I know metal, and Stryper ain't metal. They're hairsprayed, make-up wearing, spandex clad, glam-rock weenies.

Point.

421 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:34:34pm

re: #418 slokat

my first slr was a nikon f, i bought it used in 82 as a freshman in hs, i now own bunre: #420 Slumbering Behemoth

common' man, i was goin for some humor.

422 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:35:07pm

lets try this again.

423 Ayeless in Ghazi  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:35:14pm

re: #414 coldwarrior

am i on acid...not right now.
*legal warning, I am not registered at any other blog type site other than lgf*

i know the names from way back on 2.0(and i am mostly talking about them) each may have a single disagreement issue. lumping issues on that site is like lumping issues anywhere else, its like a stereotype.

guess what, i'd like to see the nirth cert. and some vaccines do carry a high risk in a given population.

Those are the reasons they were booted off here - and having looked there I know they are shared by a lot of them. It's not a stereotype.

424 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:35:24pm

re: #420 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh shit! Now you've really gone and done it. I know metal, and Stryper ain't metal. They're hairsprayed, make-up wearing, spandex clad, glam-rock weenies.

Point.

common' man, i was goin for some humor.

425 realwest  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:36:05pm

Hey, good early morning y'all - just dropped in for a little while - hope everyone's ok.
Have any of y'all seen or hear from pingjockey this week?

426 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:36:09pm

re: #418 slokat

nikon since 82, started with a used 66 F.

427 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:36:58pm

re: #425 realwest

mornin

428 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:37:51pm

re: #425 realwest

Hi realwest. Sorry, I haven't been online enough to know.

429 realwest  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:38:31pm

re: #427 coldwarrior
Mornin back to you! How are you doing?

430 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:39:23pm

re: #421 coldwarrior


common' man, i was goin for some humor.

So was I, sort of. Guess it fell flat.

THIS! IS! METAL!

and THIS! IS! SPARTA!

431 realwest  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:39:57pm

re: #428 Pvt Bin Jammin
Hi there PBJ! It's good to see you again! Well I guess I'll just do a search for him - sure hope he's been around some.
How are y'all doing this morning - well, evening for you?

432 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:39:57pm

re: #429 realwest

stirrin' up hornets.

433 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:40:57pm

re: #430 Slumbering Behemoth

ace of spades is metal all day. say motorhead at monsters of rock in 88. too loud!

434 Psaturn  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:41:52pm

re: #405 coldwarrior

left eye 20/15 (w/ slight astigmatism) right eye 20/10.

i am slightly dichromatic colorblind tho.

The Visual Acuity result you mentioned, is it corrected or uncorrected? 20/10 is attained by very few individuals. For most people they look like tiny dots.

435 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:42:37pm
436 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:43:19pm

re: #433 coldwarrior


say motorhead at monsters of rock in 88

Now I really hate you.

/green-eye Behemoth

437 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:43:19pm

re: #434 Psaturn

totaly uncorrected. i have insane good vision.

438 NY Nana  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:43:25pm

re: #428 Pvt Bin Jammin

Boo! I am wasted, and going to sleep. Honest.

G'nite, Lizards! Sweet dreams!

439 realwest  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:43:50pm

re: #432 coldwarrior
Uh, y'all ought to be careful about that - hornets are nasty fuckers to get 'em all riled up!
BTW, what's your avatar?

440 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:43:53pm

re: #436 Slumbering Behemoth

Now I really hate you.

/green-eye Behemoth

that mosters of rock show was just plain wrong. i am still hung over.

441 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:44:28pm

re: #439 realwest

berlin brigade patch. the unit was disbanded in 92

442 freetoken  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:44:33pm

re: #418 slokat

... the hype about cannon is similar to hope & change...

so that my Cannon could use my Nikon lenses.

That you can't spell the company name says quite a bit.

443 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:44:50pm

re: #438 NY Nana

go get em nana

444 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:45:24pm

re: #442 freetoken

now thats funny, right there.

good morning mr president.

445 freetoken  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:47:01pm

re: #435 coldwarrior

well, i guess this lgf is like the orthodox christian church and everyone else is just a heretic.

Dude...

There are people here with very diverse views.

The ones that get booted did not play "nice".

446 freetoken  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:47:25pm

pimf "got"

447 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:47:54pm

re: #435 coldwarrior

well, i guess this lgf is like the orthodox christian church and everyone else is just a heretic.

If you mean "orthodox christian church" as a website run by a host with consistent credibility and strong stance against idiotarianism, and mean "heretics" as stupid, racist, bigoted, insulting, conspiracy mongering idiotarians, then I guess you'd be right.

448 Silvergirl  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:47:57pm

re: #249 Pvt Bin Jammin

For those lizards who didn't hear, we had a very nice little lizard meet last night in Pasadena. Haakondahl, Redc1c4, Desert Sage, my hubby and myself. It was great.

How does a thing like that occur? Have there been other Lizard get-togethers? Most of us are generally vague about our whereabouts, so how does it happen?

449 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:48:24pm

re: #425 realwest

Hey, good early morning y'all - just dropped in for a little while - hope everyone's ok.
Have any of y'all seen or hear from pingjockey this week?

Hey Real!

Almost a week since anything from Ping.
dang.

450 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:48:26pm

re: #431 realwest

Pretty well, thanks, just tired. Busy day today and a fun night last night.

451 slokat  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:48:43pm

re: #442 freetoken

That you can't spell the company name says quite a bit.

Actually, means that my spell check was auto correcting me, without my noticing it...

452 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:49:21pm

re: #445 freetoken

i know, i've been here a while. as i said, i've seen the wars. however, i would ask, how can one get booted and there also be diverse views?

i just ask because it seems like an odd statement. NO FIGHTING

453 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:50:14pm

re: #447 Slumbering Behemoth

If you mean "orthodox christian church" as a website run by a host with consistent credibility and strong stance against idiotarianism, and mean "heretics" as stupid, racist, bigoted, insulting, conspiracy mongering idiotarians, then I guess you'd be right.

cool enough for me.

454 realwest  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:51:48pm

re: #449 jcm
Hey there jcm - good evening to you. Yeah, it'll be a week tomorrow since he last posted. I e-mailed him on August 9th and havent heard back from him. Crap.

455 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:52:10pm

re: #439 realwest

Hi Realwest, I hope you are doing well, my friend!

456 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:52:11pm

re: #448 Silvergirl

A couple of years ago when I first met Sage it was 110 degrees in the L.A. area so some of us kinda let slip the general area where we lived. Some of us e-mail each other to. We might not know actually addresses. Haakondahl lives out of the country but was visiting in San Diego and wanted to meet some lizards so I e-mailed him & worked out a small meet.

457 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:52:26pm

re: #452 coldwarrior

i know, i've been here a while. as i said, i've seen the wars. however, i would ask, how can one get booted and there also be diverse views?

i just ask because it seems like an odd statement. NO FIGHTING

and i do mean that as a purely rhetorical exercise

458 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:52:36pm

Okay, back on topic. Here's a vid I created from a camera mount on my scooter with a Canon Powershot A620.

I moved the mount higher up on the bars so that brake cable isn't in the way and rattling against the camera, but I still need to fabricate some kind of wind screen for it. I'm going to take the Exacto-knife to some foam rubber tomorrow, but if anyone has any better ideas, let me know.

459 realwest  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:53:01pm

re: #450 Pvt Bin Jammin
Hey, I heard about that little LGF get together y'all had. I hope you said hello (and some other choice words) to Sage for me!

460 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:53:15pm

re: #452 coldwarrior

An example: People who come on here and advocate genocide get booted. That doesn't mean that this site is not diverse just because it wont serve as a platform for assholes who want to spout such garbage.

461 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:53:34pm

re: #454 realwest

I hope Pingjockey is well.

462 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:53:50pm

re: #460 Slumbering Behemoth

457

463 realwest  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:54:58pm

re: #452 coldwarrior
Well one sure way to get banned is to disagree with Charles and do it by insulting him and calling him names and shit. He don't have to take shitty treatment from folks on his own blog ya know?

464 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:55:09pm

re: #459 realwest

Hey, I heard about that little LGF get together y'all had. I hope you said hello (and some other choice words) to Sage for me!

LOL. Hasn't he sent you any e-mails lately?

465 slokat  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:55:12pm

re: #458 Noam Sayin'

foam rubber for the mic?

466 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:55:18pm

re: #459 realwest

Hey Real, how you feeling?

467 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:55:59pm

re: #465 slokat

foam rubber for the mic?

That's the material I have at hand right now. Got a suggestion?

468 Psaturn  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:56:09pm

slokat, this is a good balanced article on which is better, Canon or Nikon [Link: www1.epinions.com...]

469 realwest  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:56:38pm

re: #455 Floral Giraffe
Hi there {Floral Giraffe} I'm doing ok, thanks for askin'.
Really getting pretty tired now though - damn its almost 2 AM for me!
How are y'all doing?

470 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:56:45pm

re: #458 Noam Sayin'

i did something similar in my miata, on a fall day with the leaves changing. the shot has blurred changing leaves colors with the pov from just above the windscreen

471 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:57:14pm

re: #462 coldwarrior

Rhetorical of not, my point still stands. Just because Charles does not allow people to spew garbage in his house does not make LGF an echo chamber, and it does not mean LGF membership is not diverse.

472 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:57:51pm

re: #463 realwest

Well one sure way to get banned is to disagree with Charles and do it by insulting him and calling him names and shit. He don't have to take shitty treatment from folks on his own blog ya know?

its his house. i dont mess with charles.

473 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:58:00pm

re: #470 coldwarrior

That might be an aperature setting issue, might it not?

474 realwest  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:59:12pm

re: #464 Pvt Bin Jammin
Lately? Well, let's just say that I owned a different computer the last time he e-mailed me! LOL!

475 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:59:14pm

re: #471 Slumbering Behemoth

Rhetorical of not, my point still stands. Just because Charles does not allow people to spew garbage in his house does not make LGF an echo chamber, and it does not mean LGF membership is not diverse.

fine.

476 Psaturn  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 10:59:44pm

re: #437 coldwarrior

totaly uncorrected. i have insane good vision.

Yeah...insane...until you hit 40 or beyond...

477 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:00:26pm

re: #475 coldwarrior

fine.

Heh. Did you do that with your hand on your hip, eyes rolling?

478 realwest  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:00:36pm

re: #461 Floral Giraffe
Yep, me too and I'm sending up prayers for him everynight.
Any of y'all who want to join me,or send good wishes or thoughts if y'all don't pray, are more than welcome.

479 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:00:37pm

My Dad was a Nikon guy. When I went to buy my first DSLR, I went to Dad's camera shop. Kicked the tires, as it were. The salesman convinced me that the Nikon ( which was my preference) was A LOT less user friendly than the Cannon. I didn't believe him. Went home & read the Cnet reviews. WEnt back & bought the Cannon. That was 4 years ago. I LOVE the camera. My 2 cents.

480 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:00:45pm

re: #452 coldwarrior

i know, i've been here a while. as i said, i've seen the wars. however, i would ask, how can one get booted and there also be diverse views?

i just ask because it seems like an odd statement. NO FIGHTING

Be civil, disagree without being disagreeable. This is Charles' house, and there are house rules, most folks get a warning, and departed frequently have a tear on and don't listen.

481 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:01:12pm

re: #474 realwest

Lately? Well, let's just say that I owned a different computer the last time he e-mailed me! LOL!

That's probably my fault, real. I drank all his Mezcal and blamed it on you. You might want to send me him another bottle, just to patch things up.

482 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:01:19pm

re: #473 Noam Sayin'

image 50mph on the perfect country lane, changing and blowing leaves...remote trigger on the steering wheel. this was the last stuff i did on film. its really nice. i gotta digitize it.

the blurr is more on the sides to a perfect focus in the front...its really killer.

483 jcm  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:01:43pm

re: #476 Psaturn

Yeah...insane...until you hit 40 or beyond...

My went in the last year, 49. Went from 20/20 to reading glasses in a surpassingly short time.

484 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:01:47pm

re: #469 realwest

I'm on VACATION! Having a fine time. Sonoma County, Ca. Fricking hot here. Like 80 at 11PM. Still, had a FINE time!
I hope you are doing & feeling well.
(((RW)))

485 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:02:18pm

re: #482 coldwarrior

Throw it up on Youtube. Let's take a look at it.

486 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:02:25pm

re: #476 Psaturn

Yeah...insane...until you hit 40 or beyond...

41 yrs old and still have great eye relief.

but, my knees are shot from rugby, i've had carpal on both wrists...

487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:02:48pm

That was kind of cool. Went out on the deck to see if I could see me a meteor. Neighbor has spotlight on driveway to the west of me. To the southeast of me moon is bright as blazes.

Then bam! Heading right toward the moon one ripped across the sky. I was outside for two, maybe three minutes.

*contented smile*

488 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:03:08pm

re: #477 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh. Did you do that with your hand on your hip, eyes rolling?

nope, while doing a shot of vodka!

489 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:03:23pm

re: #478 realwest

Yep, me too and I'm sending up prayers for him everynight.
Any of y'all who want to join me,or send good wishes or thoughts if y'all don't pray, are more than welcome.

Absolutely. You are both in my prayers.

490 realwest  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:03:33pm

re: #481 Noam Sayin'
HEY NOAM! You did WHAT? Oh man, I'm hoping PBJ read that and tells him!

491 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:03:40pm

re: #485 Noam Sayin'

Throw it up on Youtube. Let's take a look at it.

its film. 135mm fuji.

492 freetoken  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:03:54pm

re: #452 coldwarrior

"Play nice" is not well defined, but almost always will include:

(1) not being rude/derogatory to the blog owner or fellow lizards;
(2) not sniping fellow lizards;
(3) not pimping other websites that try to derogate the blog owner or fellow lizards.

493 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:04:44pm

re: #487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dang, jealous. Heads out to the deck for a look.
Grumbling, FBV saw a good one...;)

494 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:05:23pm

re: #487 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

good stuff tonight. keep an eye out.

495 slokat  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:05:34pm

re: #467 Noam Sayin'

I'm assuming that there isn't an easy way to add a remote mic in your helmet for voice over.

Trying to shield wind noise with normal foam rubber can work, depending on what you have. Mic wind screens are closed cell to prevent the wind from passing through. But, taken to extremes you end up with muffled sound.

So my advice is try it!

You might try an experiment involving you puffing into the mic through your foam filter and also recording with it indoors to see how it blocks wind sounds v/s changes your sound pickup quality???

496 realwest  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:05:40pm

re: #484 Floral Giraffe
Vacation?! Why hell, that's great news ((Floral Giraffe)) - hope it's a great vacation for y'all.

497 Silvergirl  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:06:04pm

re: #484 Floral Giraffe

I'm on VACATION! Having a fine time. Sonoma County, Ca. Fricking hot here. Like 80 at 11PM. Still, had a FINE time!
I hope you are doing & feeling well.
(((RW)))

I have a good friend who grew up in Gualala. I don't know if you're in that part or not, but with 80 degrees at 11pm, probably not. Are you going to get to the coast?

498 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:06:05pm

re: #481 Noam Sayin'

That's probably my fault, real. I drank all his Mezcal and blamed it on you. You might want to send me him another bottle, just to patch things up.

LOL Hope RW can find some back east. It's really scarce here, even in East L.A.

499 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:06:13pm

re: #492 freetoken

"Play nice" is not well defined, but almost always will include:

(1) not being rude/derogatory to the blog owner or fellow lizards;
(2) not sniping fellow lizards;
(3) not pimping other websites that try to derogate the blog owner or fellow lizards.

trust me, i know.

500 realwest  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:07:45pm

Well y'all it's been grand but I gotta get some sleep - hope you all have a great evening/erly morning and that I get the chance to see you down the road.

Good night, all.

501 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:07:59pm

re: #493 Floral Giraffe

Dang, jealous. Heads out to the deck for a look.
Grumbling, FBV saw a good one...;)

We're kinda cloudy here. I've been out three times but nada.

Sonoma's a great place to go. Hope you are enjoying it.

502 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:09:39pm

re: #500 realwest

Sweet dreams.

503 coldwarrior  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:09:48pm

re: #501 Pvt Bin Jammin

We're kinda cloudy here. I've been out three times but nada.

Sonoma's a great place to go. Hope you are enjoying it.

tune yer fm stereo to an unsed freq. when one hits the outer atmosphere you will hear a ping. or go here:
[Link: spaceweatherradio.com...]

504 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:10:00pm

I'll bet "Gilligan" had great meteor shower viewings.

505 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:10:53pm

re: #495 slokat

I tried an earlier experiment with a Polaroid digital video camera last weekend with horrible results. I since covered the entire top of the camera with a foam windscreen and the sound diminished only by a fraction. Switching to the Canon eliminated a lot more noise, even though the camera is far less aerodynamic - the 'sound vents' are flush; holes in the plastic, rather than a plastic grate cover.

I think I can reduce the noise on this camera dramatically with a little bit of foam. Going to take the morning and experiment.

506 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:11:40pm

re: #498 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL Hope RW can find some back east. It's really scarce here, even in East L.A.

Well, he should have thought of that before I had a chance to pin the wrap on him.

507 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:13:31pm

er, uh... rap.

508 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:13:34pm

re: #506 Noam Sayin'

Well, he should have thought of that before I had a chance to pin the wrap on him.

LOL.
Wish you could have been at our lizard meet.

509 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:14:05pm

re: #497 Silvergirl

Headed back to LA tomorrow. End of free time, but vacation has been GREAT! ( Well, except for the lefties I've been travelling with, but we agreed to skip politics on the first day...)

510 Pvt Bin Jammin  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:17:01pm

--->

511 Silvergirl  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:22:03pm

re: #415 Ringo the Gringo

Just curious: If I've posted a spinoff link and it has 10 updings is there a reason why it wouldn't appear among the 'Top Links Overall' ?

I looked your link up and found it, but you're right about it not being in the top, and I don't know why. How that is figured is a mystery to me.

512 Psaturn  Wed, Aug 12, 2009 11:25:50pm

slokat, there is another review related to Canon and Nikon lenses:

[Link: www.radiantlite.com...]

It says that for CONSUMER level lens, Nikon wins over Canon.

But for PROFESSIONAL level lenses, Canon wins over Nikon. On top of being less expensive.

I am still waiting for your "scientific" sources that say that Nikon lenses are better than Canon.

513 Syrah  Thu, Aug 13, 2009 12:37:10am

Hmmm . . .

I may have to give going back to being a professional photographer some thought.

514 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Aug 13, 2009 4:35:59am

re: #63 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I saw this a minute ago for the first time.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee answers phone while at a town hall while cancer survivor is asking her a question. Saw the footage.

Classy.

They wonder why we don't love them.

Think she'll have a target on her back for the coming elections?

515 J.S.  Thu, Aug 13, 2009 7:46:31am

There was a case in Canada recently -- three fellows shot ducks and little ducklings -- (the ducks were swimming in a pond) -- then they posted the video on YouTube. They thought it was "funny" and claimed not to know that shooting ducks in such a manner is against the law. They received a very mild punishment, imo. (they should have received criminal charges, and never allowed to own a gun again.)

Recently, I saw a bald eagle attacking a hawk (the hawk had something in its talons that the eagle wanted, I guess)...it was a magnificent sight...Also saw some swallows who decided to adapt to living onboard a small ferry...(yes, a whole colony of them -- they'd duck into crevices and nooks and crannies on board the ferry -- they'd then skim across the water to catch insects/catch a drink of water, then fly back to land on portions of the ferry -- while the ferry was in motion -- amazing feats of dexterity -- like landing on an aircraft carrier, since, after all, the ferry was in motion)...(anyway, the Canon camera and the video it takes, looks fantastic...I'm a Canon fan...)

516 Charles Johnson  Thu, Aug 13, 2009 8:39:51am

We seem to be having a real epidemic of assholes around here lately.

517 Flounder  Thu, Aug 13, 2009 9:21:54am

DAMMIT, I've hoping for Charles to post on the D90, since I (sorta)proudly own one. The sorta is because when I dropped it off to the repair shop, they said Nikon is a beotch to deal with, all parts 100% backorder, and pros have been switching to Canon. Oh, well better late than never, love all the posts!

518 J.S.  Thu, Aug 13, 2009 9:58:00am

re: #516 Charles

that's unfortunate...I've just returned from a short vacation...(had no Internet connection for awhile)...nice to get away...speaking of pests, CBC is reporting on a "cheeky squirrel" which popped itself into a photo...link here...

519 Charles Johnson  Thu, Aug 13, 2009 10:13:30am

re: #518 J.S.

that's unfortunate...I've just returned from a short vacation...(had no Internet connection for awhile)...nice to get away...speaking of pests, CBC is reporting on a "cheeky squirrel" which popped itself into a photo...link here...

That's hysterical! Here's a larger image at National Geographic:

Image: squirrel-portrait-banff-xl.jpg


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