Monday Afternoon Open Registration - Update: Now Closed

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Open • Mon Aug 17, 2009 at 12:00 pm PDT • Views: 147

It’s your traditional midday open thread, with open registration for a limited time.

Read all the rules before you register, and commit them to memory. The short version:

  • Don’t register with a proxy.
  • Don’t register with a throwaway email address.
  • Don’t register more than one account at a time.
  • Don’t be a jerk.
  • Don’t be a troll.
  • Don’t be a sock puppet. Stinky hates sock puppets.
  • Do play nice.

And then everything will be groovy.

UPDATE at 8/17/09 1:18:04 pm:

The registration window has closed.

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1 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:01:52pm
Youtube Video

I dig this song.

2 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:02:43pm

Challenge the Legend.

Yeng wins !

3 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:03:16pm

Public option dead...or not:
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

4 AuntAcid  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:04:18pm

Here's to "Hopey-Changey"!

5 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:04:39pm

re: #3 kansas

Public option dead...or not:
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Or both! Schroedinger's Cat... facing a death panel!

6 mrbaracuda  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:05:53pm

Middle day? Obviously you live in the past, Amerikans! :-D

7 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:06:38pm

re: #5 Occasional Reader

Or both! Schroedinger's Cat... facing a death panel!

And smirking.

8 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:07:06pm

re: #3 kansas

Public option dead...or not:
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

I don't care how or why this misbegotten reform fails. I just want it to fail.

9 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:07:43pm

So Mubarak is going to be meeting Obama soon. I wonder where I can get the KGB tapes of that meeting. I'm sure there will be a lot of blaming Israel.
Even though Mubarak said that the Arabs will recognize Israel only after a "just and comprehensive" peace solution. Of course, by that, he means one that ends Israel as a Jewish state.

Has Obama met Netanyahu yet?

10 mrbaracuda  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:08:16pm

re: #7 Dianna

It all makes sense now! :-D

11 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:09:19pm

re: #8 doppelganglander

I don't care how or why this misbegotten reform fails. I just want it to fail.

Which means you want Obama to fail which means you are racist?/

Local talk guys just started with the Obama as dropping the public option. I have a headache.

12 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:09:43pm

I know this cat! Siamese Substance-abuser

13 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:10:05pm

re: #7 Dianna

And smirking.

This bill contains mandatory "end of quantum uncertainty counseling" by government bureaucrats!

14 mrbaracuda  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:10:39pm

re: #13 Occasional Reader

DARE I SAY THIS IS OUTRIGHT EVIL! :-D

15 _RememberTonyC  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:11:01pm

All of your hatchlings are belong to us ...

16 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:11:07pm

re: #13 Occasional Reader

This bill contains mandatory "end of quantum uncertainty counseling" by government bureaucrats!

And kitty will sit up, wrap her tail neatly around her paws, and smirk.

17 96RoadKing  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:11:34pm

re: #11 kansas

Which means you want Obama to fail which means you are racist?/

Local talk guys just started with the Obama as dropping the public option. I have a headache.


Careful...you might have to meet the Death Panel!

18 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:11:36pm

5000 quatloos that the newcomers will have to be destroyed.

19 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:11:47pm

re: #15 _RememberTonyC

All of your hatchlings are belong to us ...

The door's open?

I shall have to go get my lunch now, so I can watch the meltdowns.

20 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:11:51pm

Whats the over/under for sock puppets?

21 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:12:34pm

My word, all of this time I've been snorting crushed up Life Savers.
No wonder I'm in a shitty mood.

22 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:12:39pm

re: #19 Dianna

The door's open?

I shall have to go get my lunch now, so I can watch the meltdowns.

Someone, *slam*...help..me..bar the door!
/

23 Kenneth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:12:56pm

I'm thinking of registering a sock as "innotnodrog"...

24 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:13:01pm

re: #18 ArchangelMichael

5000 quatloos that the newcomers will have to be destroyed.

You ring the cowbell and herd them towards the blind, I'll have the bat ready.

25 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:13:08pm

re: #20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Whats the over/under for sock puppets?

None will survive Stinky.

26 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:13:22pm

Segue from the last thread into the midday brawl...

It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house. (Proverbs 21:9)

Discuss...

27 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:13:31pm

re: #20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Whats the over/under for sock puppets?

I don't gamble, but I'll toss a $20 Charles' way if he has to weed out less than 10. And I'll add a dollar to the $20 for each sock after the tenth.

Now, lunch!

28 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:13:56pm

re: #19 Dianna

The door's open?

I shall have to go get my lunch now, so I can watch the meltdowns.

Charles changed the way registration appears. You have to click on it to see whether it's open or not. I clicked. It's not.

29 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:14:06pm

re: #25 Sharmuta

None will survive Stinky.

I'm just going for attempts.

30 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:14:08pm

re: #11 kansas

Which means you want Obama to fail which means you are racist?/

Local talk guys just started with the Obama as dropping the public option. I have a headache.

Nancy and Harry have failed Dear Leader. They couldn't get the Blue Dogs on board with the public option, and they can't keep the hard leftists on board without it. I just hope the GOP can seize the opportunity, but they've shown a disconcerting ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

31 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:14:49pm

re: #26 DaddyG

Segue from the last thread into the midday brawl...

It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house. (Proverbs 21:9)

Discuss...

There's no discussion at all unless you like that sort of thing.
The End.

32 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:15:10pm

re: #30 doppelganglander

Nancy and Harry have failed Dear Leader. They couldn't get the Blue Dogs on board with the public option, and they can't keep the hard leftists on board without it. I just hope the GOP can seize the opportunity, but they've shown a disconcerting ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Yeah, well, good thing too, I got sick of winning elections...
/

33 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:15:14pm

Registration is open now...

34 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:15:27pm

re: #28 kansas

Charles changed the way registration appears. You have to click on it to see whether it's open or not. I clicked. It's not.

Whew! My money's safe, then!

35 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:15:38pm

re: #26 DaddyG

Segue from the last thread into the midday brawl...

It is better to dwell in a corner of the housetop, than with a brawling woman in a wide house. (Proverbs 21:9)

Discuss...


"tis better to be strapped to the luggage rack than in a car with cranky, bickering children."

36 96RoadKing  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:15:47pm

re: #30 doppelganglander

Nancy and Harry have failed Dear Leader. They couldn't get the Blue Dogs on board with the public option, and they can't keep the hard leftists on board without it. I just hope the GOP can seize the opportunity, but they've shown a disconcerting ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.


"ability" hell...it's their documented and traditional talent!

37 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:15:51pm

re: #33 Charles

Registration is open now...

My mistake.

38 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:16:23pm

re: #33 Charles

Registration is open now...

No, my money's not safe. Oh, well. I haven't hit the tip jar in a while, anyway.

If I'm not around, Charles, could you give me the sock-puppet count later? I have a monetary offer on the table.

39 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:16:25pm

re: #32 Oh no...Sand People!

Yeah, well, good thing too, I got sick of winning elections...
/

I need a good way of abbreviating your nic. ON..SP is just too hard to type. How've you been?

40 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:16:41pm

re: #33 Charles

Registration is open now...

and...PULL!

41 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:16:55pm

Dear Newbies-

Welcome to LGF. If you need something to help break the commenting ice, how about telling us what brought you to LGF? Always an interesting story. Hope you have fun, just remember to play nice.

Sincerely, Sharmuta

42 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:17:04pm

Trying out some new sockpuppet names. Do you think any of these are a givaway?

Sock Monkey
Darn Me
Woolly Toes
DaddyG2
DaddyG3
DaddyG4...

43 mrbaracuda  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:17:34pm

re: #42 DaddyG

Woolly Toes sounds nice. :-)

44 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:17:37pm

re: #42 DaddyG

Trying out some new sockpuppet names. Do you think any of these are a givaway?

Sock Monkey
Darn Me
Woolly Toes
DaddyG2
DaddyG3
DaddyG4...

I like Daddy G8. It's got that international flavor.

45 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:17:40pm

re: #34 Dianna

Whew! My money's safe, then!

I told you! Come on! Bar the door!!
//

46 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:17:54pm

re: #35 EmmmieG

"tis better to be strapped to the luggage rack than in a car with cranky, bickering children."

One of those contemporary versions. /

47 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:17:58pm

re: #42 DaddyG

Trying out some new sockpuppet names. Do you think any of these are a givaway?

Sock Monkey
Darn Me
Woolly Toes
DaddyG2
DaddyG3
DaddyG4...

I like "Darn Me." That's cute.

48 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:18:01pm

I usually hide behind the vacuum cleaner when the better half is mad at me.
She'll never find me there.

/

49 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:19:03pm

Here's an old one, for the sock puppets:

Gracious Lady, we implore,
Go away, and sin no more,
And if that effort be too great,
Go away at any rate.

I've had that one buzzing in my head for a few days now.

50 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:19:24pm

re: #39 doppelganglander

I need a good way of abbreviating your nic. ON..SP is just too hard to type. How've you been?

I'm doing alright. Long weekend on a project. Feel like I about blew out a shoulder on the bench press. Have some minor revisions to make on some other things, but yeah, overall, doing alright. You survived your 14 mile jaunt I see?

51 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:19:27pm

re: #42 DaddyG

Trying out some new sockpuppet names. Do you think any of these are a givaway?

Sock Monkey
Darn Me
Woolly Toes
DaddyG2
DaddyG3
DaddyG4...

Argyle Nation

52 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:19:28pm

I think a good way to pass the time on an open thread is to discuss Smurf reproduction, personally, I think their demographics point to a society of egg layers.

Sharmuta, your input?

/

53 KenJen  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:20:31pm

re: #42 DaddyG

Trying out some new sockpuppet names. Do you think any of these are a givaway?

Sock Monkey
Darn Me
Woolly Toes
DaddyG2
DaddyG3
DaddyG4...

How about Pock Suppet?

54 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:20:32pm

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That kind of thing might leave you blue in the face.

55 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:20:55pm

22 hatchlings, and 2 socks already.

56 bloodnok  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:21:00pm

Why are you having open Reg during working hours? Don't you know that Republicans all work and won't be able to register??!1!? We wull be swamped by teh libs!

/welcome, new folks. Sharm had a good suggestion at #41.

57 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:21:14pm

re: #54 lawhawk

That kind of thing might leave you blue in the face.

I was thinking another part of the anatomy, but ok.

58 HelloDare  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:21:14pm

re: #27 Dianna

I don't gamble, but I'll toss a $20 Charles' way if he has to weed out less than 10. And I'll add a dollar to the $20 for each sock after the tenth.

Now, lunch!

Good incentive to leave registration open forever.

59 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:21:38pm

I finally made! Woohoo!
A couple of questions..Where do we park our sockpuppets? Does Charles Comp parking?
Who feeds the Trolls? They are mighty hungry..
Where is the list where we get to tell Charles what to post?
///

60 mrbaracuda  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:21:40pm

re: #45 Oh no...Sand People!

Take this while I stir the pot so we don't run out of energy!

61 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:21:47pm

re: #55 Charles

22 hatchlings, and 2 socks already.

They always come in pairs, unless they are coming out of the dryer.

62 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:21:53pm

re: #55 Charles

22 hatchlings, and 2 socks already.

Boy are you lucky. I can never get a pair of socks out of the laundry.

63 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:22:43pm

re: #50 Oh no...Sand People!

I'm doing alright. Long weekend on a project. Feel like I about blew out a shoulder on the bench press. Have some minor revisions to make on some other things, but yeah, overall, doing alright. You survived your 14 mile jaunt I see?

I did! I was fine until I stopped walking. I stretched some but clearly not enough. When I got out of the car at home I shuffled into the house like an old lady.

(For those of you who don't know, I'm training for the Breast Cancer 3 Day Walk in October in memory of my sister. If you'd like to donate, click my avatar for information.)

64 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:23:06pm

re: #61 CyanSnowHawk

They always come in pairs, unless they are coming out of the dryer.

The black hole of Maytag.
Where the hell do they go ?

65 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:23:08pm

So anyone else see District 9 yet?

66 tokyobk  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:23:20pm

I remember how lucky I felt after a couple of months of reading when I happened to catch an open registration and thereby tokyobk got his scales.

67 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:23:26pm

re: #55 Charles

22 hatchlings, and 2 socks already.

Finally figured out where all my missing socks have gone. Charles has them! Of course, they were naughty socks that did not stay in my drier and went causing mischief, so they got what they deserved...

68 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:23:35pm

So, house guests are fun. 3 days now with overweight college friend of dear wife and her 3 kids. One severe nut allergy, 2 more on ADDHD meds, dietary restrictions, 13 yr. old staying up late and sleeping in late. Open-ended stay as they're home-schoolers so are "kind of open-ended".

//grumble

69 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:23:45pm

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I think a good way to pass the time on an open thread is to discuss Smurf reproduction, personally, I think their demographics point to a society of egg layers.

Sharmuta, your input?

/

Smurfs are born only once in a blue moon. Or as part of a plot to undermine Smurf society as a whole.

70 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:23:47pm

re: #55 Charles

22 hatchlings, and 2 socks already.

I just GOTTA know who tried to slip past the gate!!!

((geeezzz ,, I need a hobby!))

71 HelloDare  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:24:07pm

re: #55 Charles

22 hatchlings, and 2 socks already.

Was one of them this guy?

72 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:24:29pm

I get so emotional when newbies are hatching.

Why I remember when I was hatched. It was this very month one year ago, in fact. The lizards where very warm and welcoming.

Welcome newbies. Tell us why you chose your nic.

P.S. Spell check is your friend.

73 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:24:47pm

re: #68 Spenser (with an S)

So, house guests are fun. 3 days now with overweight college friend of dear wife and her 3 kids. One severe nut allergy, 2 more on ADDHD meds, dietary restrictions, 13 yr. old staying up late and sleeping in late. Open-ended stay as they're home-schoolers so are "kind of open-ended".

//grumble

Beer makes everything better

74 96RoadKing  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:24:53pm

re: #71 HelloDare

Was one of them this guy?


How'd you get my high school grad photo?

75 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:24:55pm

Where is the fun in spell check?

76 jimgordon  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:25:14pm

Yea!
New member!

77 HelloDare  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:25:15pm

Image: splash.jpg

78 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:25:19pm

re: #69 Sharmuta

Smurfs are born only once in a blue moon. Or as part of a plot to undermine Smurf society as a whole.

When the Colts went to the SuperBowl I dyed my hair blue for a week..
You would have been so proud of me Sharm...
/I look good in blue :)

79 Bloodnok  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:25:37pm

re: #69 Sharmuta

Smurfs are born only once in a blue moon. Or as part of a plot to undermine Smurf society as a whole.

Blue Monday

Youtube Video
80 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:25:43pm

Newbies, see that think in Hoops' post /

That's called a sarc tag. You'll want to use it, because no matter how ridiculous you think your post is, somebody somewhere on the internet believes it to be truth.

81 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:25:57pm

re: #62 DaddyG

Boy are you lucky. I can never get a pair of socks out of the laundry.

I'm sitting in a meeting the other day and my darn back won't stop itching.

I try to inconspicuously rub against the chair. That fails.

I try and and reach back with my pen. Fail.

Finally I go to the bathroom and take off my shirt.

The culprit? My missing sock statically attached to my tee shirt...

82 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:26:00pm

re: #55 Charles

How can you tell a sock from a newbie? (Please excuse my ignorance.)

83 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:26:06pm

re: #72 midwestgak

I get so emotional when newbies are hatching.

Why I remember when I was hatched. It was this very month one year ago, in fact. The lizards where very warm and welcoming.

Welcome newbies. Tell us why you chose your nic.

P.S. Spell check is your friend.

but not nesessaree

84 Pianobuff  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:26:20pm

If someone registered as 'Senor Wences' would they get automatically banned?

85 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:26:47pm

re: #72 midwestgak

Why I remember when I was hatched.

Mother was an incubator
Father was the contents
of a test tube in the icebox
in the factory of birth
My name is 905
and I've just become alive
I'm the newest populator
of the planet they call Earth

/rather forgettable song by The Who

86 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:27:00pm

re: #76 jimgordon

Yea!
New member!


Welcome- start a discussion about young earth creationism or Obama's birth certificate. They love that around here. /

87 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:27:12pm

Sock Puppet Rock!

Youtube Video
88 Baier  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:27:14pm

re: #52 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

I think a good way to pass the time on an open thread is to discuss Smurf reproduction, personally, I think their demographics point to a society of egg layers.

Sharmuta, your input?

/

Gargamel?

89 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:27:21pm

re: #73 Leonidas Hoplite


re: #68 Spenser (with an S)

So, house guests are fun. 3 days now with overweight college friend of dear wife and her 3 kids. One severe nut allergy, 2 more on ADDHD meds, dietary restrictions, 13 yr. old staying up late and sleeping in late. Open-ended stay as they're home-schoolers so are "kind of open-ended".

//grumble

Beer makes everything better

"B-double-E-double-R-U-N, Beer Run! All we need is a ten and a fiver, a car some keys and a sober driver..."

90 The Sanity Inspector  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:27:44pm

Congratulations and welcome to the hatchlings.

91 KenJen  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:28:01pm

re: #72 midwestgak

I get so emotional when newbies are hatching.

Why I remember when I was hatched. It was this very month one year ago, in fact. The lizards where very warm and welcoming.

Welcome newbies. Tell us why you chose your nic.

P.S. Spell check is your friend.

I wish I'd have put a little more thought into my nic. Everyone thought I was the guy from Jeopardy.

92 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:28:01pm

re: #68 Spenser (with an S)

So, house guests are fun. 3 days now with overweight college friend of dear wife and her 3 kids. One severe nut allergy, 2 more on ADDHD meds, dietary restrictions, 13 yr. old staying up late and sleeping in late. Open-ended stay as they're home-schoolers so are "kind of open-ended".

//grumble

Well you must have been a pretty awful person in a former life if Karma is kicking in.

93 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:28:15pm

re: #79 Bloodnok

I can't believe you went with Monday over Meanie...

Youtube Video
94 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:28:20pm

re: #68 Spenser (with an S)

So, house guests are fun. 3 days now with overweight college friend of dear wife and her 3 kids. One severe nut allergy, 2 more on ADDHD meds, dietary restrictions, 13 yr. old staying up late and sleeping in late. Open-ended stay as they're home-schoolers so are "kind of open-ended".

//grumble

I feel your pain. My husband's 18-year-old twin nephews are staying with us for 2 1/2 weeks. We are entering week 2 and I haven't killed anyone yet. They're not bad kids, but let's just say they are unacquainted with the social graces, like saying excuse me and showering regularly.

95 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:28:22pm

re: #82 midwestgak

How can you tell a sock from a newbie? (Please excuse my ignorance.)

With my Sekrit Overlord Tool.

96 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:28:51pm

re: #91 KenJen

I wish I'd have put a little more thought into my nic. Everyone thought I was the guy from Jeopardy.

LOL

97 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:29:05pm

re: #95 Charles

With my Sekrit Overlord Tool.

must


resist

98 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:29:34pm

re: #91 KenJen

I wish I'd have put a little more thought into my nic. Everyone thought I was the guy from Jeopardy.

Saw him at the airport last christmas...

99 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:30:12pm

re: #68 Spenser (with an S)

So, house guests are fun. 3 days now with overweight college friend of dear wife and her 3 kids. One severe nut allergy, 2 more on ADDHD meds, dietary restrictions, 13 yr. old staying up late and sleeping in late. Open-ended stay as they're home-schoolers so are "kind of open-ended".

//grumble

You need to get Steve Martin to come stay at your house as Cousin Ruprecht, and explain to your guests how he'll also be staying there on an "open-ended" basis.

100 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:30:43pm

I saw one of our lizard hatchlings in the yard this morning. I have seen two at a time, so I know there are at least two. Pretty darn cute for reptiles.

101 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:30:48pm

re: #99 Occasional Reader

You need to get Steve Martin to come stay at your house as Cousin Ruprecht, and explain to your guests how he'll also be staying there on an "open-ended" basis.

Not mother?

102 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:30:48pm

re: #91 KenJen

I wish I'd have put a little more thought into my nic. Everyone thought I was the guy from Jeopardy.

You should have run with it. People are in awe of Jeopardy champions, and he's like a god.

103 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:30:50pm

re: #99 Occasional Reader

You need to get Steve Martin to come stay at your house as Cousin Ruprecht, and explain to your guests how he'll also be staying there on an "open-ended" basis.

Not Mother?

104 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:30:56pm

re: #95 Charles

With my Sekrit Overlord Tool.

"Excuse me, while I whip this out."

/RIP Cleavon Little

105 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:31:08pm

re: #97 sattv4u2

must

resist

HAHAHAHAHAH!!

106 KenJen  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:31:14pm

re: #98 Oh no...Sand People!

Saw him at the airport last christmas...

Did you get his autograph?/

107 Bloodnok  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:31:36pm

re: #93 Sharmuta

I can't believe you went with Monday over Meanie...



You? A meanie? Heavens no.

Youtube Video
108 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:33:02pm

Another one...
Man Carrying Semi-Automatic Assault Rifle And Pistol Outside Obama Event


A man, who decided not to give his name, was walking around the pro-health care reform rally at 3rd and Washington streets, with a pistol on his hip, and an AR-15 (a semi-automatic assault rifle) on a strap over his shoulder.


"Because I can do it," he said when asked why he was armed. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms."

Two police officers were staying very close to the man.

109 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:33:03pm

re: #98 Oh no...Sand People!

Saw him at the airport last christmas...

I saw Bill Walton at the Airport...A big tall strong man that could not hardly walk.. I've 90 year old man better...Poor man..The game of Basketball destroyed his feet and knees...

110 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:33:05pm

re: #84 Pianobuff

If someone registered as 'Senor Wences' would they get automatically banned?

So right!

111 KenJen  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:33:05pm

re: #102 doppelganglander

You should have run with it. People are in awe of Jeopardy champions, and he's like a god.

..to nerds everywhere.

112 rexatosis  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:33:07pm

"Groovy," an apt word for the 40th anniversary of Woodstock. Got back from the "Heroes of Woodstock" show at Bethel Woods. Country Joe definitely has milked a career out of that one song, Canned Heat still playin' some hot blues, Big Brother and the Holding Co. suprisingly good without Janis (the gal they have can belt it out), Ten Years After super-groovy (kicked ass), Jefferson Starship plays a solid "St. Stephen" with T.C. from the Dead but really need Grace, Jorma, and Jack, Mountain and Leslie West ripped it up and Leslie got married too. Had to skip Levon Helm's set (saw him last year at Mt Jam-definitely worth seeing) had a long drive back to Woodstock (don't believe that hour away nonsense, go that fast and you won't realize you vaporized a deer til your at St. Peter's gates). Groovy

113 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:33:29pm

re: #102 doppelganglander

You should have run with it. People are in awe of Jeopardy champions, and he's like a god.

Speaking of Jeopardy champions...

114 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:33:38pm

re: #64 SasquatchOnSteroids

The black hole of Maytag.
Where the hell do they go ?

Lift out your washing machine agitator. You'll find at least a dozen.

It's one of the reasons we bought a front-loader when we moved.

115 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:34:36pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

Another one...
Man Carrying Semi-Automatic Assault Rifle And Pistol Outside Obama Event

Because it's his right, Killgore! You anti-second amendment nazi! ///

116 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:34:37pm

re: #113 Oh no...Sand People!

Speaking of Jeopardy champions...

You wouldn't. Nah, you probably would.

117 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:34:48pm

re: #94 doppelganglander

I feel your pain. My husband's 18-year-old twin nephews are staying with us for 2 1/2 weeks. We are entering week 2 and I haven't killed anyone yet. They're not bad kids, but let's just say they are unacquainted with the social graces, like saying excuse me and showering regularly.

The kids aren't actually that bad, I just want my house back. We've got 4 of our own so 7 is a bit much. We've also realized something in the last few years... We don't like other people's kids so much. Love and cherish ours, but could never be a teacher or day-care worker. I find them annoying.

118 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:34:59pm

re: #109 HoosierHoops

I saw Bill Walton at the Airport...A big tall strong man that could not hardly walk.. I've 90 year old man better...Poor man..The game of Basketball destroyed his feet and knees...

I saw Julia Child at a Trader Joe's in Pasadena many years ago. She was one tall woman.

119 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:35:51pm

re: #113 Oh no...Sand People!

Speaking of Jeopardy champions...

You were one?/

120 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:36:07pm

re: #114 Dianna

Lift out your washing machine agitator. You'll find at least a dozen.

It's one of the reasons we bought a front-loader when we moved.

Interesting. Thx.

121 Pianobuff  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:36:13pm

re: #117 Spenser (with an S)

The kids aren't actually that bad, I just want my house back. We've got 4 of our own so 7 is a bit much. We've also realized something in the last few years... We don't like other people's kids so much. Love and cherish ours, but could never be a teacher or day-care worker. I find them annoying.

Hospitality: making your guests feel like they’re at home, even if you wish they were.

122 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:36:37pm

re: #85 Occasional Reader

Mother was an incubator
Father was the contents
of a test tube in the icebox
in the factory of birth
My name is 905
and I've just become alive
I'm the newest populator
of the planet they call Earth

/rather forgettable song by The Who

One of John Entwhistle's, wasn't it? I forgave him because there are so few science fiction songs.

123 Gang of One  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:36:54pm

I for one welcome our New Sekrit Tool Overlords.

124 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:36:58pm

If anyone sees tfk, here is some info on that "Diggers Realm" ""Dan "Digger" Amato"" he was suspicious about:

"He directly attributed the presence of undocumented immigrants to “declining education” levels in Arizona and California and asked the audience, “Are you gonna wait until you have to fear for your own safety? Are you gonna wait for one of your family members to be assaulted or killed by an illegal alien?” Included among Amato's fellow speakers at the September 2007 event were anti-Semite Paul Topete, lead singer of the anti-government, conspiracy-promoting band Poker Face and Mariann Davies, a Vice Chair of YDSFM."

[Link: www.adl.org...]

Much more there than just the Poker Face connection.

125 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:36:59pm

re: #117 Spenser (with an S)

The kids aren't actually that bad, I just want my house back. We've got 4 of our own so 7 is a bit much. We've also realized something in the last few years... We don't like other people's kids so much. Love and cherish ours, but could never be a teacher or day-care worker. I find them annoying.

I understand completely. I've only got one left at home, and I have completely lost my patience for small children in public settings.

126 Oh no...Sand People!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:37:01pm

re: #119 midwestgak

You were one?/

Nope...Doppleganglander!

Sorry, I had too!

/ducks under desk...

127 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:37:02pm

re: #115 Sharmuta
It's interesting to watch them try to instigate an incident. I seriously fear for the life of our president.

128 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:37:15pm

re: #121 Pianobuff

Hospitality: making your guests feel like they’re at home, even if you wish they were.

I swear I'm being the soul of graciousness. Just venting.

129 wahabicorridor  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:37:17pm

re: #117 Spenser (with an S)

I just want my house back.

Hell, I feel like that when my husband walks thru the kitchen when I'm working in there.

130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:37:32pm

Hey y'all. How's yer face?

131 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:37:33pm

re: #97 sattv4u2

They make pills that increase performance of those.

132 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:37:41pm

re: #126 Oh no...Sand People!

Nope...Doppleganglander!

Sorry, I had too!

/ducks under desk...

It's okay. No one will believe you.

133 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:37:47pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

It's interesting to watch them try to instigate an incident. I seriously fear for the life of our president.

I do too. God forbid.

134 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:38:19pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

"Because I can do it," he said when asked why he was armed. "In Arizona, I still have some freedoms."

Yes, idiot, and you also have responsibilities!

135 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:38:25pm

re: #130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey y'all. How's yer face?

Open registration.

136 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:38:47pm

re: #108 Killgore Trout

Another one...
Man Carrying Semi-Automatic Assault Rifle And Pistol Outside Obama Event

This is one reason I am opposed to open carry legislation in Texas. The open display of firearms can obviously have an intimidating effect on criminals, but it can have the same effect on law-abiding citizens, especially around a public event that is likely to become acrimonious.

137 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:39:02pm

re: #134 Occasional Reader

Yes, idiot, and you also have responsibilities!

Not if the current government has their way...

138 96RoadKing  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:39:04pm

re: #127 Killgore Trout

It's interesting to watch them try to instigate an incident. I seriously fear for the life of our president.


It's not the ones you see that are going to be a problem. They're just wackos. It's the ones that are serious about accomplishing 'the mission' and you don'tsee that you have to worry about!

139 wahabicorridor  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:39:20pm

re: #124 Pvt Bin Jammin

I'll mail that to a mutual friend.

140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:39:25pm

re: #135 midwestgak

Anybody gonna introduce the newbies around. I'll have a beer today.

141 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:39:52pm

re: #139 wahabicorridor

Thanks.

142 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:40:20pm

re: #122 Dianna

One of John Entwhistle's, wasn't it? I forgave him because there are so few science fiction songs.

I can think of a couple of others:
the Stones' 10,000 Light Years from Home
Queen's 39

Can't think of any others by the Who

The entire album Blows Against the Empire (Paul Kantner, et al) is about hippies hijacking a starship.

143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:40:37pm

re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I am going to master the question mark one day.

144 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:40:37pm

From the Brady Campaign...
Gun Responsibility: Leave Loaded Firearms At Home When Attending Presidential Events


"The National Rifle Association and other 'gun rights' groups need to send a message about 'gun responsibilities' to their members and all gun owners. Loaded weapons at political forums endanger all involved, distract law enforcement, and end up stifling debate. Presidential protesters need to leave their firearms at home - no exceptions."


There have been multiple reported incidents of guns being brought to town halls this month:

145 KenJen  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:40:39pm

re: #126 Oh no...Sand People!

Nope...Doppleganglander!

Sorry, I had too!

/ducks under desk...

I'm cracking up. That explains the "their like Gods" comment. Sorry about the nerd comment. Jeopardy contestants are cool.

146 wahabicorridor  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:41:07pm

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel

This is one reason I am opposed to open carry legislation in Texas. The open display of firearms can obviously have an intimidating effect on criminals, but it can have the same effect on law-abiding citizens, especially around a public event that is likely to become acrimonious.

And it's one of the easons I like concealed carry. The wackos are going to go after the obvious threats first.

Don't be obvious.

147 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:41:20pm

re: #143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am going to master the question mark one day.

LOL! How the heck are ya Veggie? still working out on the court?

148 doppelganglander  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:41:41pm

re: #145 KenJen

I'm cracking up. That explains the "their like Gods" comment. Sorry about the nerd comment. Jeopardy contestants are cool.

Ken Jennings is like a god. The rest of us are merely very lucky mortals. But the reactions you get sometimes are very weird.

149 wahabicorridor  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:42:04pm

re: #143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hey FBV! How was your birthday? Lots of goodies?

150 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:42:08pm

re: #142 Kosh's Shadow

the Stones' 10,000 Light Years from Home

In as similar vein, the Argetinian rock group Soda y Stereo has a song called "Un millón de años luz de casa" (one million light years from home); although the title is more of a metaphor.

151 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:42:19pm

re: #144 Killgore Trout

From the Brady Campaign...
Gun Responsibility: Leave Loaded Firearms At Home When Attending Presidential Events

This is a very good message from the NRA. That's responsible gun ownership, not taking advantage of the laws to go out and be stupid or incite confusion, legal or not.

152 LudwigVanQuixote  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:42:21pm

Hello new Lizards! Now that you are members of this august site, please remember that your Zionist checks will only arrive in the mail once you have proven your loyalty and been "processed."

Don't worry about the probe.

1 in 5 kind of likes it...

153 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:42:45pm

re: #138 96RoadKing

It's the ones that are serious about accomplishing 'the mission' and you don'tsee that you have to worry about!


True but these guys are just as potentially dangerous. They are also a distraction to security. Imagine if Muslims were doing this after 9-11. This is just too dangerous.

154 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:43:32pm

re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Anybody gonna introduce the newbies around. I'll have a beer today.

Still waiting for their scales to dry, I guess. I can't wait until they make their initial post. I will put it in their baby lizard album.

155 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:43:35pm

re: #112 rexatosis

Bethel Woods is a nice spot.

I hope to catch the BB King and Buddy Guy performance next week.

156 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:43:40pm

re: #144 Killgore Trout

From the Brady Campaign...
Gun Responsibility: Leave Loaded Firearms At Home When Attending Presidential Events

I actually agree with the Brady Campaign about something. Wow!

157 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:43:50pm

re: #64 SasquatchOnSteroids

The black hole of Maytag.
Where the hell do they go ?

The spinning opens a portal to our sister universe. In the sister universe, no one can figure out why more socks come out of the dryer than go into it.

158 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:43:51pm

re: #152 LudwigVanQuixote

Hello new Lizards! Now that you are members of this august site, please remember that your Zionist checks will only arrive in the mail once you have proven your loyalty and been "processed."

Don't worry about the probe.

1 in 5 kind of likes it...

Come on LVQ...You like the Alien probes...Just admit it...:)

159 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:43:53pm

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel

This is one reason I am opposed to open carry legislation in Texas. The open display of firearms can obviously have an intimidating effect on criminals, but it can have the same effect on law-abiding citizens, especially around a public event that is likely to become acrimonious.

I'm of five different minds about it. I seriously think that people would be much, much more polite if open carriage were allowed. On the other hand, given some people I've known, I can picture someone snapping badly. On the gripping hand, I swear, there are some people whose behavior would be seriously improved by a flesh wound. Particularly teenagers!

160 HelloDare  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:44:16pm

Grateful Dead drummer at a eulogy?

If Obama speaks, bet he uses the opportunity to slam his critics.

Barack Obama to salute Walter Cronkite

President Obama has been invited to eulogize Walter Cronkite, the legendary CBS News anchorman, at a memorial service in Manhattan next month, network sources said.

Former President Bill Clinton has accepted an invitation to speak at the service, to be held at Lincoln Center at 10:30 a.m. on Sept. 9.

Also speaking at the service will be Katie Couric, anchor and managing editor of the "CBS Evening News"; Sean McManus, president of CBS News and Sports; and Leslie Moonves, CBS Corp.'s president and chief executive officer.

Performances are scheduled by Jimmy Buffett and Mickey Hart, who was a Grateful Dead drummer.

161 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:44:33pm

re: #72 midwestgak

I get so emotional when newbies are hatching.

Why I remember when I was hatched. It was this very month one year ago, in fact. The lizards where very warm and welcoming.

Welcome newbies. Tell us why you chose your nic.

P.S. Spell check is your friend.

haahahahhahahahahahahhahahaaa

162 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:44:35pm

re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist

The spinning opens a portal to our sister universe. In the sister universe, no one can figure out why more socks come out of the dryer than go into it.

So those are the evil people that steal my socks!?

163 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:44:39pm

re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist

The spinning opens a portal to our sister universe. In the sister universe, no one can figure out why more socks come out of the dryer than go into it.

So, there is an alternate LGF.

164 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:44:57pm

re: #159 Dianna

I'm of five different minds about it. I seriously think that people would be much, much more polite if open carriage were allowed. On the other hand, given some people I've known, I can picture someone snapping badly. On the gripping hand, I swear, there are some people whose behavior would be seriously improved by a flesh wound. Particularly teenagers!

Upding for the Mote in G-d's Eye reference (or was it the sequel?)

165 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:45:00pm

Welcome to all the new folks. Good luck and watch out for flying (verbal) shrapnel.

166 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:45:22pm

re: #159 Dianna

people would be much, much more polite if open carriage were allowed

The Surrey with the (Lunatic) Fringe on the Top?

167 McSpiff  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:45:44pm

re: #165 Locker

Working hard or hardly working ? ;-)

168 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:45:56pm

Man Carrying An Assault Rifle And Pistol Outside Obama Event (video)

Looks like there was another gun there. Fat white guy with a pistol.

169 JHW  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:46:02pm

re: #118 midwestgak

I saw Julia Child at a Trader Joe's in Pasadena many years ago. She was one tall woman.

I was looking at a thread at another site yesterday discussing celebrities who'd served in the Armed Forces and learned she'd been turned down by the Navy in WW2 because of her height and went on to serve in the O.S.S. instead. Props to her.

With the bombing of Pearl Harbor, Child joined the Office of Strategic Services (OSS). (She initially attempted to enlist in the United States Navy but was turned down because of her height.

Julia Child Wiki

170 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:46:42pm

re: #156 Occasional Reader

I actually agree with the Brady Campaign about something. Wow!


Heh. I think he also has the moral authority to speak on this particular incident.

171 Kenneth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:46:45pm

Star Wars and bikinis... the perfect video for a Monday afternoon open thread.

Youtube Video
172 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:46:46pm

re: #160 HelloDare

Jimmy Buffett?!

"What would Jimmy Buffet do?"

173 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:47:07pm

Come on out, newbies. We know there are at least 22 of you, probably more by now.

You need some Karma to keep up your strength.

174 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:47:14pm

re: #125 doppelganglander

I understand completely. I've only got one left at home, and I have completely lost my patience for small children in public settings.

It depends on the children. I can have (and have had) 20 kids in my yard if they are civil to each other. If they are snotty, mean or in the habit of talking back to their parents I can't stand even one of them.

175 Girth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:47:29pm

Holy crap, did I make it? I've been missing registration periods for a couple months.

176 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:47:30pm

re: #172 Dianna

Jimmy Buffett?!

"What would Jimmy Buffet do?"

Lose the salt shaker somewere.

177 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:47:35pm

re: #164 Kosh's Shadow

Upding for the Mote in G-d's Eye reference (or was it the sequel?)

Mote.

178 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:47:46pm

re: #167 McSpiff

Working hard or hardly working ? ;-)

Back from lunch at Paesano's in Sacramento. The hot salami and provolone on grilled Ciabatta bread is forking amazing. Been craving it for two weeks. How's things up on the north side?

179 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:47:54pm

I remember the excitement when I realised I had registered, had read LGF for so long.

Believe the hype!

180 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:47:58pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Man Carrying An Assault Rifle And Pistol Outside Obama Event (video)

Looks like there was another gun there. Fat white guy with a pistol.

How do you know it wasn't a pistol with a fat white guy?

181 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:48:01pm

re: #124 Pvt Bin Jammin

The other person whose profile is linked on that page is a registered lizard.

182 96RoadKing  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:48:06pm

re: #136 Shiplord Kirel

This is one reason I am opposed to open carry legislation in Texas. The open display of firearms can obviously have an intimidating effect on criminals, but it can have the same effect on law-abiding citizens, especially around a public event that is likely to become acrimonious.


Anre: #153 Killgore Trout

True but these guys are just as potentially dangerous. They are also a distraction to security. Imagine if Muslims were doing this after 9-11. This is just too dangerous.

I agree with others from #144 (one of the few times I agree with the Brady Bunch).

183 HelloDare  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:48:09pm

re: #118 midwestgak

I saw Julia Child at a Trader Joe's in Pasadena many years ago. She was one tall woman.

Yes, she was very tall and chunky. I saw her in Boston in the 70's. She looked like a hulking pot roast.

184 Gang of One  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:48:20pm

re: #150 Occasional Reader

In as similar vein, the Argetinian rock group Soda y Stereo has a song called "Un millón de años luz de casa" (one million light years from home); although the title is more of a metaphor.

Upding for Soda Stereo reference. I was thinking the same thing. Are you familiar with their work? Dynamo is a great album, my GF loves it; her 9-year-old daughter loves dancing to it.

185 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:48:31pm

re: #159 Dianna

I'm of five different minds about it. I seriously think that people would be much, much more polite if open carriage were allowed. On the other hand, given some people I've known, I can picture someone snapping badly. On the gripping hand, I swear, there are some people whose behavior would be seriously improved by a flesh wound. Particularly teenagers!

Licensed concealed carry has all the stated benefits of open carry, and then some, since nasty types don't know which law-abiding citizens are armed and which ones aren't. It does not have the same drawback, though, since it is anonymous and is therefore much less easy to construe as a specific threat.

186 Rexatosis  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:48:31pm

RE # 155 experiencedtraveller

Enjoy the show, you may want to get there early and see the museum (figure 3 hours). It is a real nice place to see a concert but the town's infrastucture isn't really built to handle a sell-out crowd of 17,000 yet alone a 1/5 million 40 years ago.

187 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:48:50pm

re: #175 Girth

Holy crap, did I make it? I've been missing registration periods for a couple months.

Welcome sir. I suspect having a Monday reg was the key. Nice to have you and all the new folks.

188 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:49:03pm

re: #172 Dianna

Jimmy Buffett?!

"What would Jimmy Buffet do?"

Wipe the parrot poop off'n his shoulda.

189 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:49:07pm

re: #175 Girth

Holy crap, did I make it? I've been missing registration periods for a couple months.

Welcome aboard!

190 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:49:23pm

re: #156 Occasional Reader

I actually agree with the Brady Campaign about something. Wow!

Stopped clock...

191 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:49:43pm

re: #118 midwestgak

I saw Julia Child at a Trader Joe's in Pasadena many years ago. She was one tall woman.


My wife and I caught Julie and Julia last Friday night. Very enjoyable!

192 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:49:46pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Man Carrying An Assault Rifle And Pistol Outside Obama Event (video)

Looks like there was another gun there. Fat white guy with a pistol.

Interesting that the AR-15 carrier is a black guy.

193 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:49:47pm

re: #176 MrSilverDragon

Lose the salt shaker somewere.

Did you see my link from an earlier thread? Siamese Substance-Abuser

194 McSpiff  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:49:50pm

re: #178 Locker

We finally hit 100 today, so I cant complain too much. Lake is closed at the moment, which is why im hanging out with the lizards

195 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:49:50pm

re: #177 Dianna

Mote.

BTW, my copy (from the SF Book Club) has a correction, entered by Jerry Pournelle, when I was at a science fiction convention.
Pournelle thinks he knows everything, but is a nice guy; we had him as guest of honor at my college, when we ran a convention there, and when one person offered some Ouzo, we all went up to our apartment and had some.

196 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:49:51pm

re: #175 Girth

Holy crap, did I make it? I've been missing registration periods for a couple months.

Welcom Girth. Remember to sweep up your egg shells. LGF is a tidy site.

197 LudwigVanQuixote  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:49:52pm

re: #158 HoosierHoops

Come on LVQ...You like the Alien probes...Just admit it...:)

Yes I do! As a Zionist Overlord of the Zionist Occupation of Remulak, I LOVE PROBING HUMANS !!!

BWAHHHAAHHHAAHHAA

Really, it's a lot of fun...

Have a bagel.

198 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:49:57pm

re: #155 experiencedtraveller

Bethel Woods is a nice spot.

I hope to catch the BB King and Buddy Guy performance next week.

A couple of months ago my cousin from NY invited me to that concert. it looks like a good one, but I can probably se the same show much closer to home (and not have to take aday or two off from work.)

199 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:50:14pm

More (Guns) The Merrier!

We're still trying to piece this together. But according to CNN's Ed Henry, who was there in person, there was not one but TWO men outside the Obama event in Phoenix today with AR-15 assault rifles. It's like a fad.

One man, whose presence we noted earlier, was an African-American man who didn't seem to make completely clear what his political position was. But the second, who we haven't seen any pictures of, was apparently holding his assault rifle while chanting against socialism and denouncing Obama's policies.

200 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:50:20pm

re: #194 McSpiff

We finally hit 100 today, so I cant complain too much. Lake is closed at the moment, which is why im hanging out with the lizards

Welcome to you as well, McSpiff!

201 Kenneth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:50:47pm

re: #175 Girth

Greetings newbee. Proceed to ear-tagging and then bend over for Nurse.

202 McSpiff  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:50:52pm

re: #200 Desert Dog

Thanks Desert Dog, Glad to be here :D

203 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:50:56pm

re: #193 Dianna

Did you see my link from an earlier thread? Siamese Substance-Abuser

Heh, no... but I've lived that in my past.

Remember, you'll never miss the brain cells you lose!

/indirectly.

204 LudwigVanQuixote  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:50:59pm

re: #158 HoosierHoops

Come on LVQ...You like the Alien probes...Just admit it...:)

And after all, it is better to give than to receive!

205 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:51:17pm

re: #181 wrenchwench

OMG, really?

206 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:51:17pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout

More (Guns) The Merrier!

Secret Service snipers undoubtedly had these two in the crosshairs the whole time.

207 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:51:23pm

re: #164 Kosh's Shadow

Upding for the Mote in G-d's Eye reference (or was it the sequel?)

The sequel is "The Gripping Hand".

208 Gang of One  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:51:27pm

re: #150 Occasional Reader

In as similar vein, the Argetinian rock group Soda y Stereo has a song called "Un millón de años luz de casa" (one million light years from home); although the title is more of a metaphor.

For you, sir.

Youtube Video
209 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:51:42pm

re: #184 Gang of One

Upding for Soda Stereo reference. I was thinking the same thing. Are you familiar with their work? Dynamo is a great album, my GF loves it; her 9-year-old daughter loves dancing to it.

Soda Stereo... apologies for my gratuitious "y". My wife likes 'em. We went to their concert in Miami the year before last. I find some of their stuff interesting, but am not a huge fan myself.

210 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:51:56pm

re: #195 Kosh's Shadow

BTW, my copy (from the SF Book Club) has a correction, entered by Jerry Pournelle, when I was at a science fiction convention.
Pournelle thinks he knows everything, but is a nice guy; we had him as guest of honor at my college, when we ran a convention there, and when one person offered some Ouzo, we all went up to our apartment and had some.

I've met him.

211 KenJen  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:51:57pm

re: #175 Girth

Holy crap, did I make it? I've been missing registration periods for a couple months.

Sounds like a guy nic. I'm not sure if I want to know how you decided on it.

212 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:52:08pm

re: #198 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'll give your regards to BB and Buddy. ;)

213 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:52:11pm

re: #204 LudwigVanQuixote

And after all, it is better to give than to receive!

If you can get hired on by the Aliens, I hear that probing work is actually theraputic

214 LudwigVanQuixote  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:52:17pm

re: #164 Kosh's Shadow

Upding for the Mote in G-d's Eye reference (or was it the sequel?)

There is a sequel to Mote in God's Eye?

Seriously? That's one of my all time favorites.

215 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:52:36pm

re: #192 Occasional Reader

Interesting that the AR-15 carrier is a black guy.

I thought so too. I don't know what to make of it. I do think this is a coordinated effort, maybe thought it would go over better if they got a black guy to do it.

216 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:52:50pm

re: #191 DaddyG

My wife and I caught Julie and Julia last Friday night. Very enjoyable!

I wonder what the "adult" vesion will be called - Julie Does Julia?

217 96RoadKing  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:53:03pm

re: #190 ArchangelMichael

Stopped clock...


Hell unfashionably cold today!

218 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:53:04pm

re: #199 Killgore Trout

Why no pictures? He sounds awfully conspicuous?

219 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:53:35pm

re: #208 Gang of One

It's funny how in South America, these guys are HUGE... they're like the U2 of rock en español. And yet in North America and even Spain, they're relatively unknown.

220 Kenneth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:53:43pm

re: #211 KenJen

He probably intended to type "Garth" but he made a typo. Now he's stuck with it.

221 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:53:45pm

re: #207 DaddyG

The sequel is "The Gripping Hand".

Thanks. I knew the reference had something to do with the sequel, but it has been a long time since I read them.

222 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:54:03pm

re: #205 Pvt Bin Jammin

OMG, really?

Yup. I think perhaps she should meet Mr. Beaumont, after reading that profile.

223 albusteve  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:54:09pm

bring yer AR and chant anti BO slogans...I gotta think about that one

224 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:54:19pm

re: #219 Occasional Reader

It's funny how in South America, these guys are HUGE... they're like the U2 of rock en español. And yet in North America and even Spain, they're relatively unknown.

The Tragically Hip barely fills up a club here in the USA. In Canada, they sell out stadiums.

225 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:54:20pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

color me Curious, but why did you mention the color of the person carrying the side arm but not of the one carrying the assault rifle?

226 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:54:21pm

re: #210 Dianna

I've met him.

I wonder if he still drinks ouzo.

227 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:55:05pm

re: #206 Shiplord Kirel

Secret Service snipers undoubtedly had these two in the crosshairs the whole time.

As noted from time to time, not all liberals are anti-gun and a fair number of lefty radicals are not. Imagine swarms of them showing up armed in response to these gun-toting wingnuts. In turn, more of the latter will bring their own guns in response to armed communards running loose in the streets. It's not hard to imagine how this will end up.

228 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:55:05pm

re: #218 Dianna

I think it just happened within the past hour. Pics will probably turn up soon.

229 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:55:09pm

Whilst on the subject of good music ..

Youtube Video
230 SFGoth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:55:22pm

re: #160 HelloDare

Grateful Dead drummer at a eulogy?

If Obama speaks, bet he uses the opportunity to slam his critics.

I always preferred Bill Kreutzmann to Mickey Hart.

231 Kenneth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:55:32pm

re: #219 Occasional Reader

Yeah, but are they as big as Johnny Hallyday?

232 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:55:35pm

re: #214 LudwigVanQuixote

There is a sequel to Mote in God's Eye?

Seriously? That's one of my all time favorites.

Yes, as DaddyG reminded me of the title:

re: #207 DaddyG

The sequel is "The Gripping Hand".

233 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:55:51pm

re: #203 MrSilverDragon

Heh, no... but I've lived that in my past.

Remember, you'll never miss the brain cells you lose!

/indirectly.

My Xena, the Warrior Princess Kitten (also the occasional body of the possessing entity known as "Psycho Kitty") was a substance abusing siamese. I never dared turn my back on a glass of wine, a bottle of beer, or, after the Male moved in, a snifter of cognac. Let's not even discuss her behavior when champagne was in the offing, though in that case she always had to compete with the black mutt, whose passion for champagne has gotten completely out of hand since Her Highness' passing.

234 Caboose  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:56:01pm

OT: Anyone else upgrade to Firefox 3.5 and have it start crashing randomly on you? It is probably one of the extensions that i have, but i was just wondering if any of y'all were having issues (with FF, not in general. There are a lot of you on here that have "issues"! ;-) ). Thanks!!!

(I'm using Chrome for the time being and I really like it...even if it is from Google...)

235 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:56:05pm

Wow. A sudden influx of sock puppets. 6 in the past 5 minutes.

236 Kenneth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:56:06pm

re: #225 sattv4u2

that's because you're a right wing racist.

///

237 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:56:07pm

re: #229 HAL2010

Whilst on the subject of good music ..


[Video]

Well, Someone programmed you just right.

238 Girth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:56:07pm

re: #211 KenJen

Sounds like a guy nic. I'm not sure if I want to know how you decided on it.

Old nickname some friends hung on me. I'm a pretty big dude.

239 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:56:15pm

re: #225 sattv4u2

Because it was a different guy. We already knew about the skinny black guy. 'Fat white guy" seemed an appropriate description.

240 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:56:45pm

re: #235 Charles

Wow. A sudden influx of sock puppets. 6 in the past 5 minutes.

Stinky hates sock puppets. ;-)

241 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:56:58pm

re: #214 LudwigVanQuixote

There is a sequel to Mote in God's Eye?

Seriously? That's one of my all time favorites.

Yes. The Gripping Hand

242 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:57:01pm

re: #235 Charles

Wow. A sudden influx of sock puppets. 6 in the past 5 minutes.

Open Reg word spreads fact amongst the banned

243 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:57:03pm

re: #237 SasquatchOnSteroids

My friend plays guitar like a ninja remains hidden, he taught me well.

244 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:57:04pm

re: #238 Girth

Old nickname some friends hung on me. I'm a pretty big dude.

Did you play sports in School?
/Welcome

245 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:57:12pm

re: #235 Charles

Wow. A sudden influx of sock puppets. 6 in the past 5 minutes.

So we're up to 8?

246 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:57:17pm

re: #227 Shiplord Kirel

It's not hard to imagine how this will end up.

The worst of them (at least) are no doubt hoping for just that outcome.

247 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:57:19pm

re: #214 LudwigVanQuixote

There is a sequel to Mote in God's Eye?

Seriously? That's one of my all time favorites.

The Gripping Hand

Its a very good read IMO.

248 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:57:23pm

re: #239 Killgore Trout

Because it was a different guy. We already knew about the skinny black guy. 'Fat white guy" seemed an appropriate description.

K,,,

249 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:57:24pm

re: #238 Girth

Old nickname some friends hung on me. I'm a pretty big dude.

"hung"? No pun intended?

250 HelloDare  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:57:29pm

Do sock puppets come in pairs?

251 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:57:45pm

re: #242 sattv4u2

Open Reg word spreads fact amongst the banned

"And this one time, at Banned Camp..."

252 McSpiff  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:57:48pm

re: #224 Desert Dog

Im a pretty big Hip fan, but I wouldnt be surprised if this was due to the CRTC's CAN-CON rules just giving them that much more exposure. (Canada's version of the FCC mandates that a certain % of air time must be devoted to canadian content)

253 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:57:51pm

re: #235 Charles

Wow. A sudden influx of sock puppets. 6 in the past 5 minutes.

Another question. Do you delete them out right or do you wait for them to show themselves for what they are?

254 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:57:58pm

re: #245 Dianna

So we're up to 8?

9 so far. 52 hatchlings.

255 LudwigVanQuixote  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:58:00pm

re: #213 Desert Dog

If you can get hired on by the Aliens, I hear that probing work is actually theraputic

Well, our human employees say that.

One of the management problems we have is that some of our trustees feel the need to re-probe other members of your species (whom they do not like) repeatedly to gain "better statistical accuracy." We Overlords understand this, but really, there comes a time when 78 probes of Senator Murtha is just enough.

For myself...

Well, who said that being a bit kinky was anathema to Intergalactic Zionism?

256 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:58:08pm

"Sock puppets"?

Like trolls, but more smelly?

257 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:58:19pm

re: #215 Killgore Trout

And the black guy had nothing to do with the decision? Please.

258 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:58:25pm

re: #234 Caboose

OT: Anyone else upgrade to Firefox 3.5 and have it start crashing randomly on you? It is probably one of the extensions that i have, but i was just wondering if any of y'all were having issues (with FF, not in general. There are a lot of you on here that have "issues"! ;-) ). Thanks!!!

(I'm using Chrome for the time being and I really like it...even if it is from Google...)

Yes, 3.5 has been quite unstable. If it weren't for NoScript (which usually improves stability by blocking unstable Flash code), I'd switch off it until Mozilla gets their act together.

259 LudwigVanQuixote  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:58:28pm

re: #232 Kosh's Shadow

OK, I will be getting that...

260 96RoadKing  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:58:49pm

re: #223 albusteve

bring yer AR and chant anti BO slogans...I gotta think about that one


Never underestimate the stupidity of people in large groups...

261 albusteve  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:58:59pm

re: #246 Occasional Reader

The worst of them (at least) are no doubt hoping for just that outcome.

are they vested?...extra ammo?
good lord

262 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:59:00pm

re: #226 Kosh's Shadow

I wonder if he still drinks ouzo.

As I recall, he's not been well, so probably not.

263 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:59:05pm

re: #252 McSpiff

Im a pretty big Hip fan, but I wouldnt be surprised if this was due to the CRTC's CAN-CON rules just giving them that much more exposure. (Canada's version of the FCC mandates that a certain % of air time must be devoted to canadian content)

Could be, but a band like Rush sells out all over the world. I have seen the Tragically Hip here a few times (lots of Canadians down here, I guess). They were great.

264 MrSilverDragon  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:59:09pm

re: #256 HAL2010

"Sock puppets"?

Like trolls, but more smelly?

More like a personal army in the anonymity of the internet... but they can be troll-like.

265 SFGoth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:59:23pm

BTW, both my beautiful French/French Carribean colleague and my cute friend from Leipzig, Germany both agree that Europeans who don't travel the world are unfriendly, cold, intolerant, etc., but that Americans are the opposite. Dunno about tolerance - we sure have a lot of intolerance here (see, Texas curriculum) but the irony is that I seem to find Germans rather friendly (though it may be a matter of sampling) - though once trying to get from Frankfurt to Leipzig via train, and looking really lost, an alte Frau said to me in English (after I said "Ich kann nur ein bischen Deutsch sprechen), "I'll help you if you're not French." I assured, her that no, I was not French.

266 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:59:25pm

re: #250 HelloDare

Do sock puppets come in pairs?

Apparently so. There are 8 now./

267 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:59:28pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Man Carrying An Assault Rifle And Pistol Outside Obama Event (video)

Looks like there was another gun there. Fat white guy with a pistol.

Was not me. Y'all stop starin...

268 LudwigVanQuixote  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:59:28pm

re: #247 DaddyG

The Gripping Hand

Its a very good read IMO.

I am so going to buy that now... Today actually. I loved Mote.

269 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:59:50pm

re: #235 Charles

Wow. A sudden influx of sock puppets. 6 in the past 5 minutes.

It's a burst of creation-ism. /

270 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 12:59:56pm

re: #255 LudwigVanQuixote

Well, our human employees say that.

One of the management problems we have is that some of our trustees feel the need to re-probe other members of your species (whom they do not like) repeatedly to gain "better statistical accuracy." We Overlords understand this, but really, there comes a time when 78 probes of Senator Murtha is just enough.

For myself...

Well, who said that being a bit kinky was anathema to Intergalactic Zionism?

Yes, I would imagine the "re-probing" is a problem... ha ha

271 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:00:03pm

re: #238 Girth

Old nickname some friends hung on me. I'm a pretty big dude.

Yeah, I was gonna go with Hugh G. Rection, but it sounded too yahooish and honesty is always the best policy.

//

272 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:00:05pm

re: #264 MrSilverDragon

More like a personal army in the anonymity of the internet... but they can be troll-like.

So.. how do they differ from the normal troll?
They have already been banned once?

273 Gang of One  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:00:06pm

re: #219 Occasional Reader

It's funny how in South America, these guys are HUGE... they're like the U2 of rock en español. And yet in North America and even Spain, they're relatively unknown.

I discovered them around 1994 when I was living in Mexico City. Of all the Rock en Español® that was nascent and burgeoning, they sounded the most original.

274 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:00:13pm

re: #239 Killgore Trout

Because it was a different guy. We already knew about the skinny black guy. 'Fat white guy" seemed an appropriate description.

What about the moderately sized Asian guy? /

275 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:00:24pm

re: #257 Dianna

And the black guy had nothing to do with the decision? Please.


Of course he did. If it were two white guys the descriptor "white" would differentiate them now would it. I'm not going to squabble with you about whatever strawman your trying to construct. End of discussion.

276 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:00:38pm

re: #246 Occasional Reader

The worst of them (at least) are no doubt hoping for just that outcome.

Without a doubt. Many of the gun shop commandoes I know are itching for a pitched battle with the lefties.

277 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:00:41pm

re: #255 LudwigVanQuixote

Well, our human employees say that.

One of the management problems we have is that some of our trustees feel the need to re-probe other members of your species (whom they do not like) repeatedly to gain "better statistical accuracy." We Overlords understand this, but really, there comes a time when 78 probes of Senator Murtha is just enough.

For myself...

Well, who said that being a bit kinky was anathema to Intergalactic Zionism?

So, what do aliens circumcise? (There was, IIRC, an Avram Davidson story about trying to find a minyan of Jews who could breathe the same atmosphere)

278 SFGoth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:00:46pm

Hey! Lambchop was a sock puppet!

279 McSpiff  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:00:53pm

re: #263 Desert Dog

I saw them open for the Rolling Stones, hell of a show.

280 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:00:53pm

re: #68 Spenser (with an S)
Dang Spenser...
I'm sure there's plenty jokes to help rub it in...
I feel for ya ...so I won't go there!
...Go fishing ...Alone!!

281 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:00:54pm

re: #250 HelloDare

Do sock puppets come in pairs?

I think the term "pair" is offensive. The proper term is sock puppet clone.

282 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:00:56pm

re: #222 wrenchwench

Yup. I think perhaps she should meet Mr. Beaumont, after reading that profile.

Are you sure it's not Brenda of long ago? She was a lizard before registration. She had a website, and was also a proponent of zpg.

283 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:01:07pm

re: #257 Dianna

And the black guy had nothing to do with the decision? Please.

"so there I was,,, just walkin through the hood, when all of a sudden all these white right wing/Ron Paul/ teabaggers came up to me and said 'hey, brother, if you're not busy for the next few hours, would you mind carrying this assualt rifle while we protest the President?"

wha ,,, like it never happens !?!?!?

284 Silvergirl  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:01:12pm

re: #81 experiencedtraveller

I'm sitting in a meeting the other day and my darn back won't stop itching.

I try to inconspicuously rub against the chair. That fails.

I try and and reach back with my pen. Fail.

Finally I go to the bathroom and take off my shirt.

The culprit? My missing sock statically attached to my tee shirt...

It happens! It's worse for a woman when it attaches somewhere in the pants. It looks like something slipped.

285 LudwigVanQuixote  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:01:19pm

re: #235 Charles

Wow. A sudden influx of sock puppets. 6 in the past 5 minutes.

>> He knows when you've been bad or good. So, be good for goodness sake...

286 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:01:25pm

re: #252 McSpiff

Im a pretty big Hip fan, but I wouldnt be surprised if this was due to the CRTC's CAN-CON rules just giving them that much more exposure. (Canada's version of the FCC mandates that a certain % of air time must be devoted to canadian content)

That explains the Red Green show.

287 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:01:26pm

re: #257 Dianna

And the black guy had nothing to do with the decision? Please.

LOL. Right, there is a store somewhere where you hire black guys for conservative protests, since you will never find a black conservative anywhere on the face of the planet.
/

288 Eowyn2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:01:38pm

Groovy. I'm having flashbacks of the partridge family bus and shirley jones singing.

289 Charpete67  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:01:38pm

re: #271 SasquatchOnSteroids

Yeah, I was gonna go with Hugh G. Rection, but it sounded too yahooish and honesty is always the best policy.

//

up ding for new sophomoric phone prank name...

290 McSpiff  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:02:02pm

re: #286 DaddyG

That explains the Red Green show.

We all still feel really bad about that one...

291 Kenneth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:02:05pm

re: #224 Desert Dog

Got yer Bobcaygeon right here...

Youtube Video
292 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:02:11pm

re: #251 Occasional Reader

"And this one time, at Banned Camp..."


Oh gosh, can we call the stalkers "banned camp"? Please!? Please!?

293 Eowyn2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:02:16pm

re: #218 Dianna

Why no pictures? He sounds awfully conspicuous?


The trout sounds fishy?

294 wahabicorridor  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:02:29pm

re: #265 SFGoth

"I'll help you if you're not French."

ROTF! Ok, can you tell me when this was? The year?

295 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:02:31pm

re: #258 Kosh's Shadow

Yes, 3.5 has been quite unstable. If it weren't for NoScript (which usually improves stability by blocking unstable Flash code), I'd switch off it until Mozilla gets their act together.

You just reminded me of something. I was seeing Firefox upgrade messages from my tool tray today. It boggled my mind. Anyone else seeing anything like this? Currently I'm on 3.0.13 since 3.5 is currently sucking.

296 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:02:39pm

re: #278 SFGoth

Hey! Lambchop was a sock puppet!

Lambchop was a love. Innocent as could be.

297 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:02:52pm

re: #286 DaddyG

That explains the Red Green show.

Don't put that show down or we'll have to find a new use for the handyman's secret weapon - duct tape.

298 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:03:09pm

Yep, looks like the word went out to the stalkers. 11 sock puppets now.

299 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:03:10pm

re: #296 midwestgak

Lambchop was a love. Innocent as could be.

You are talking about the entity that spawned "The song that never ends."

300 albusteve  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:03:16pm

re: #276 Shiplord Kirel

Without a doubt. Many of the gun shop commandoes I know are itching for a pitched battle with the lefties.

you're kidding...that's insane, there is never political yak where I hang out...all guns, all the time

301 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:03:23pm

re: #286 DaddyG

That explains the Red Green show.

THAT show is sooo funny.

302 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:03:41pm

re: #288 Eowyn2

Groovy. I'm having flashbacks of the partridge family bus and shirley jones singing.

You shouldn't have had the brown acid back in '69...

303 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:03:43pm

Freddie King, without the horn section!:

Youtube Video
304 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:03:58pm

re: #298 Charles

Yep, looks like the word went out to the stalkers. 11 sock puppets now.


Hey! Let's go back and try again. He's only caught us the last forty-five times.

305 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:03:59pm

re: #254 Charles

9 so far. 52 hatchlings.

One more, and $20 goes into the tip-jar!

Should I mention my own reserve id?

306 Silvergirl  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:04:09pm

Welcome, hatchlings! Make yourselves known.

Only some of us bite, and several more hiss and snarl, but it's nothing you can't stand up to. As a bonus, some will make you laugh!

307 yesandno  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:04:23pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Now we have a new definition of what "stuck on stupid" means.

308 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:04:35pm

re: #275 Killgore Trout

Not a straw-man, KT. Pointing out your phrasing.

309 SFGoth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:04:39pm

re: #294 wahabicorridor

ROTF! Ok, can you tell me when this was? The year?

2004. I'm not *that* old.

310 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:04:47pm

re: #308 Dianna

Not a straw-man, KT. Pointing out your phrasing.

as was I

311 Girth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:05:12pm

re: #244 HoosierHoops

Did you play sports in School?
/Welcome

I did indeed. Played football in high school, a year in college and coached for a season at the local high school when they needed some help.

312 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:05:16pm

re: #239 Killgore Trout

Because it was a different guy. We already knew about the skinny black guy. 'Fat white guy" seemed an appropriate description.

Speaking of the skinny black guy: AP - President Barack Obama chastised the defense industry and a freespending Congress on Monday for wasting tax dollars "with doctrine and weapons better suited to fight the Soviets on the plains of Europe than insurgents in the rugged terrain of Afghanistan."

313 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:05:32pm

re: #299 EmmmieG

You are talking about the entity that spawned "The song that never ends."

That's why mothers enjoy lamb chops so much. It is so clear now...

314 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:05:33pm

re: #290 McSpiff

We all still feel really bad about aboot that one, eh...

FIFY

315 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:05:47pm

re: #257 Dianna

And the black guy had nothing to do with the decision? Please.

Don't you just hate it when you have to keep em honest?

316 bloodnok  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:05:50pm

re: #303 HAL2010

Freddie King, without the horn section!:



I LOVE that video. Thank you for posting it.

317 SixDegrees  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:05:58pm

re: #206 Shiplord Kirel

Secret Service snipers undoubtedly had these two in the crosshairs the whole time.

Actually, the Secret Service certainly had someone within a very short tackling distance. Or point blank handgun range.

318 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:06:00pm

re: #276 Shiplord Kirel

Without a doubt. Many of the gun shop commandoes I know are itching for a pitched battle with the lefties.

Leading, in very short order, to a batch of burials.

Very, very stupid.

319 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:06:02pm

re: #282 Dianna

Are you sure it's not Brenda of long ago? She was a lizard before registration. She had a website, and was also a proponent of zpg.

I thinnk they are one and the same. And she blogs at VDARE.

The link on her profile is to this which links to VDARE.

320 LudwigVanQuixote  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:06:06pm

re: #277 Kosh's Shadow

So, what do aliens circumcise? (There was, IIRC, an Avram Davidson story about trying to find a minyan of Jews who could breathe the same atmosphere)

Well, this is a very interesting Halachic question. We Zionist Overlords have very similar equipment to you humans - after all we did mix our genetics with your monkey ancestors eons ago. Did I mention that being a bit kinky is NOT anathema to Intergalactic Zionism...

But what to do about other species like those who live in the upper atmosphere of the planet you call Jupiter...

They look a lot like large jelly fish and if the mohel slips... POP!

We poskined, that since male and female do not really apply to them, that they are all female. Of course this means now that all of their descendants are all Jewish always, but they are very loyal to the cause.

321 albusteve  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:06:26pm

re: #312 debutaunt

Speaking of the skinny black guy: AP - President Barack Obama chastised the defense industry and a freespending Congress on Monday for wasting tax dollars "with doctrine and weapons better suited to fight the Soviets on the plains of Europe than insurgents in the rugged terrain of Afghanistan."

BOs an M1 kinda guy

322 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:06:29pm

PIMMF

323 Last Mohican  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:06:33pm

re: #168 Killgore Trout

Man Carrying An Assault Rifle And Pistol Outside Obama Event (video)

Looks like there was another gun there. Fat white guy with a pistol.

Whoa. I'm watching at work with the sound off, so I don't know exactly what's going on.

Let me propose the following hypotheses:

1. These folks got the idea of bringing guns to a presidential event from William Kostric's doing so.

2. The more people keep doing this, the more it will inspire other people to do this.

3. Having more and more people bringing firearms to demonstrations at presidential events will eventually result in someone getting shot. Perhaps some union thug will be beating up an anti-Obama protester, and an armed anti-Obama protester will feel compelled to respond with gunfire. Or perhaps the Secret Service will shoot one of the armed protesters. Asking the Secret Service to keep the president 100% safe, without shooting people, when there are people carrying assault rifles around, is asking a lot.

324 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:06:41pm

re: #311 Girth

I did indeed. Played football in high school, a year in college and coached for a season at the local high school when they needed some help.

Awesome! You'll enjoy it here...Welcome

325 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:06:43pm

re: #312 debutaunt

Probably not going to argue that point with him.

326 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:07:05pm

re: #273 Gang of One

I discovered them around 1994 when I was living in Mexico City. Of all the Rock en Español® that was nascent and burgeoning

I don't know if they still counted as "nascent" in 1994! I first heard of 'em in 1987.

327 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:07:17pm

re: #101 Leonidas Hoplite
Upding for the DRS quote!

328 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:07:19pm

re: #320 LudwigVanQuixote

Well, this is a very interesting Halachic question. We Zionist Overlords have very similar equipment to you humans - after all we did mix our genetics with your monkey ancestors eons ago. Did I mention that being a bit kinky is NOT anathema to Intergalactic Zionism...

But what to do about other species like those who live in the upper atmosphere of the planet you call Jupiter...

They look a lot like large jelly fish and if the mohel slips... POP!

We poskined, that since male and female do not really apply to them, that they are all female. Of course this means now that all of their descendants are all Jewish always, but they are very loyal to the cause.

Sounds like Clarke had something in "A Meeting with Medusa", but IIRC, that was Saturn.

329 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:07:44pm

[Link: www.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

What is this guy?

330 albusteve  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:07:49pm

re: #317 SixDegrees

Actually, the Secret Service certainly had someone within a very short tackling distance. Or point blank handgun range.

this has got to be dealt with...maybe publish some imminent threat rules or whatever

331 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:07:59pm

re: #319 wrenchwench

I thinnk they are one and the same. And she blogs at VDARE.

The link on her profile is to this which links to VDARE.

Account is now blocked. I only recently found out who this was.

332 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:08:07pm

re: #293 Eowyn2

The trout sounds fishy?

No - I just wondered why they didn't get pictures of someone putting on a show like that.

333 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:08:33pm

re: #299 EmmmieG

You are talking about the entity that spawned "The song that never ends."


This is the song that never ends,
and it goes on and on my friends,
some people started singing it not knowing what it was
and they'll continue singing it forever just because
this is the song that never ends,
and it goes on and on my friends,
some people started singing it not knowing what it was
and they'll continue singing it forever just because
this is the song that never ends,
and it goes on and on my friends,
some people started singing it not knowing what it was
and they'll continue singing it forever just because
this is the song that never ends,
and it goes on and on my friends,
some people started singing it not knowing what it was
and they'll continue singing it forever just because...

334 Irish Rose  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:08:38pm

Afternoon lizards, and welcome hatchlings!

I've gone over to Wordpress, for those who might be interested. Click on the blue for an update.

335 Kenneth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:08:38pm

re: #312 debutaunt

Speaking of the skinny black guy: AP - President Barack Obama chastised the defense industry and a freespending Congress on Monday for wasting tax dollars "with doctrine and weapons better suited to fight the Soviets on the plains of Europe than insurgents in the rugged terrain of Afghanistan."

Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

Because if we hadn't, we wouldn't be here fighting the Taliban today. Does the Dumbass in Chief even stop to think about what he's saying?

336 SixDegrees  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:09:13pm

re: #215 Killgore Trout

I thought so too. I don't know what to make of it. I do think this is a coordinated effort, maybe thought it would go over better if they got a black guy to do it.

Yes, it certainly has all the attributes of a vast, shadowy conspiracy.

337 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:09:29pm

Buddy Guy - First time I met the Blues:

Youtube Video
338 wahabicorridor  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:09:32pm

re: #309 SFGoth

2004. I'm not *that* old.

That's about right. Germans don't much like the Amis but they really resent the French coming off as victors when they supinely surrendered. 2004 they were fighting about EADS

339 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:09:44pm

re: #331 Charles

Account is now blocked. I only recently found out who this was.

It's not just socks that develop a nasty smell, eh?

340 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:09:45pm

re: #298 Charles

Yep, looks like the word went out to the stalkers. 11 sock puppets now.

Cue Hudson

"They're coming out of the God damn walls!"

341 albusteve  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:10:32pm

re: #337 HAL2010

Buddy Guy - First time I met the Blues:


[Video]

killer new CD...maybe his best ever, lots of stars play with him

342 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:10:48pm

re: #312 debutaunt

Speaking of the skinny black guy: AP - President Barack Obama chastised the defense industry and a freespending Congress on Monday for wasting tax dollars "with doctrine and weapons better suited to fight the Soviets on the plains of Europe than insurgents in the rugged terrain of Afghanistan."


Way to win friends and influence national policy. Perhaps we should mandate troops train on horseback with goat heads.

343 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:10:51pm

re: #335 Kenneth

Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

Because if we hadn't, we wouldn't be here fighting the Taliban today. Does the Dumbass in Chief even stop to think about what he's saying?

So having weapons that were relevant 20 years ago in the defence budget today makes sense to you? Really?

344 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:10:59pm

Am I wrong that I honestly do not believe that the right to bear arms should exist when the Presdient is nearby?

Bring a gun to see the President? Go straight to jail. Even if you have a license. You can come out 24 hours after he leaves town.

President is (unannounced, walking by you with his security detail? different). You show up carrying where he's gonna be? Law's no!

345 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:11:08pm

re: #335 Kenneth

Well, it seemed like a good idea at the time.

Because if we hadn't, we wouldn't be here fighting the Taliban today. Does the Dumbass in Chief even stop to think about what he's saying?

Hey, he just wants to eliminate research into "unproven technologies".

From now on, we'll only research already-proven technologies. The wheel, longbows... stuff like that.

346 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:11:18pm

re: #337 HAL2010

Buddy Guy - First time I met the Blues:

Buddy Guy FTW. Nice one.

347 Silvergirl  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:11:20pm

re: #238 Girth

Old nickname some friends hung on me. I'm a pretty big dude.

Big McLarge Huge. And a few others from MST3K.

348 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:12:23pm

re: #347 Silvergirl

Big McLarge Huge. And a few others from MST3K.

Slab Beefcake. Bob Johnson..no wait!

349 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:12:26pm

re: #343 HAL2010

So having weapons that were relevant 20 years ago in the defence budget today makes sense to you? Really?

It depends on the weapons, doesn't it?

By the way; do you think that we will always and forever be faced with threats solely from the likes of the Taliban?

350 Last Mohican  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:13:01pm

re: #343 HAL2010

So having weapons that were relevant 20 years ago in the defence budget today makes sense to you? Really?

Yes, in Obama's defense, I don't think he's saying that we were wrong to build an Army to contain the Soviets back in the 1980's. He hasn't said that since, well, the 1980's.

351 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:13:07pm

re: #347 Silvergirl

Big McLarge Huge. And a few others from MST3K.

Brilliant! So now we got a Huge Guy theory and a Serial Crusher theory.

352 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:13:20pm

re: #323 Last Mohican

You're pretty close with one exception. The idea of bringing guns to the protests came up about two weeks before the guy in New Hampshire. There was a flurry of twitter and blogs posts encouraging people to bring guns to the protests.

353 Gang of One  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:14:04pm

re: #326 Occasional Reader

I don't know if they still counted as "nascent" in 1994! I first heard of 'em in 1987.

The music scene in Mexico was nascent, starting at around 1987. I was actually living there then, and a girl I knew there had a friend who was starting a band, asked me to play bass. I turned him down. He is Saul Hernandez, became the lead singer/guitarist of Caifanes, a very successful band. I ebentually played with one of the founders of Mana in the 90s.

354 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:14:07pm

re: #319 wrenchwench

Yikes!

355 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:14:12pm

re: #351 Locker

Maybe it was one guy with 8 guns?

356 LudwigVanQuixote  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:14:12pm

re: #323 Last Mohican

Whoa. I'm watching at work with the sound off, so I don't know exactly what's going on.

Let me propose the following hypotheses:

1. These folks got the idea of bringing guns to a presidential event from William Kostric's doing so.

2. The more people keep doing this, the more it will inspire other people to do this.

3. Having more and more people bringing firearms to demonstrations at presidential events will eventually result in someone getting shot. Perhaps some union thug will be beating up an anti-Obama protester, and an armed anti-Obama protester will feel compelled to respond with gunfire. Or perhaps the Secret Service will shoot one of the armed protesters. Asking the Secret Service to keep the president 100% safe, without shooting people, when there are people carrying assault rifles around, is asking a lot.

Let me propose that if you get within a kilometer (or whatever the Secret Service considers too close) of the President with a weapon, you will be shot or at least arrested by the Secret Service.

We can conclude instantly that they are not within a kilometer (or whatever the Secret Service considers too close) of the President.

Since these assholes are instantly on Fox. We can conclude that Fox is purposefully creating a pre-planned propaganda campaign that Americans are so angry about health care, they are bringing guns. This is pure agit-prop. This is a pure set up - and yes it is very dangerous. There are very many at Fox, who most likely need to be put in jail for this.

357 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:14:42pm

re: #353 Gang of One

I ebentually played with one of the founders of Mana in the 90s.

Wow! Very impressive.

358 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:15:06pm

re: #347 Silvergirl

Big McLarge Huge. And a few others from MST3K.

Fatty McButterpants.

359 LudwigVanQuixote  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:15:17pm

re: #328 Kosh's Shadow

Agent Clarke was an artist with a probe...

360 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:15:17pm

re: #349 Occasional Reader

It depends on the weapons, doesn't it?

By the way; do you think that we will always and forever be faced with threats solely from the likes of the Taliban?

I think the USA will be involved in more and more asymmetric warfare, not large scale battles that were envisioned to take place in Europe should the Soviets invade.

361 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:15:26pm

re: #354 Dianna

Indeed.

362 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:15:47pm

I like that one of the "no longer relevant" weapons systems Obama is planning on cutting back is missile defense. And he made that announcement... the day after North Korea tested a long-range missile. "Irrelevant!"

363 HelloDare  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:15:50pm

Huge Santa Barbara County wildfire caused by marijuana farm operated by a Mexican drug organization; suspects at large in forest
August 16, 2009 %P% 8:26 am

A fire that has burned more than 75,000 acres in Santa Barbara County over the last week was started in an illegal marijuana growing area operated by a Mexican drug organization, authorities said.

Authorities said they confirmed that the blaze, which is burning out of control, started in a cooking area of the pot farm. They believe those responsible are still in the forest area trying leave the forest by foot.
"The Santa Barbara County Sheriff’s Narcotics Unit has confirmed that the camp at the origin of the fire was an illegal marijuana operation believed to be run by a Mexican national drug organization," according to a statement from the Los Padres National Forest. "The Narcotics Unit has been working in the area within the last month eradicating other nearby marijuana cultivation sites."

364 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:16:06pm

re: #355 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Maybe it was one guy with 8 guns?

That's two sound theories in one day, neither of which deal with abnormally-large men. Kinda makes me feel like Riverdancing.

365 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:16:08pm

Luther Allison - A change must come:

Youtube Video
366 Caboose  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:16:15pm

re: #258 Kosh's Shadow

Yes, 3.5 has been quite unstable. If it weren't for NoScript (which usually improves stability by blocking unstable Flash code), I'd switch off it until Mozilla gets their act together.

Thanks, I thought that might be the case. Back to the Evil Empire's browsers for a while...

367 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:16:30pm

re: #323 Last Mohican
Seems to me ...Law enforcement is within the law to ask the armed idiot to allow them to examine it and his person for live AMMO,proper ID and run him for felonies!
IT'S LEGAL TO OPENLY CARRY BUT THIS IS JUST
STUPID!!

368 saylorfam  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:16:34pm

re: #341 albusteve
Thanks for the "Buddy" Break. I first saw him play back in 1967 and was blown away. He is in my opinion the best living blues artist. Thanks Again!

369 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:16:38pm

re: #361 Pvt Bin Jammin

Indeed.

Thanks for the original link!

370 Gang of One  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:17:03pm

re: #357 Occasional Reader

Wow! Very impressive.

I have photobucket link somewhere ...

371 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:17:25pm

re: #369 wrenchwench

Your welcome. Dang these are some scary folks.

372 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:17:29pm

re: #347 Silvergirl

Big McLarge Huge. And a few others from MST3K.

Crunch Buttsteak

373 bloodnok  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:17:32pm

re: #334 Irish Rose

Afternoon lizards, and welcome hatchlings!

I've gone over to Wordpress, for those who might be interested. Click on the blue for an update.

It looks great!

374 albusteve  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:17:37pm

re: #368 saylorfam

Thanks for the "Buddy" Break. I first saw him play back in 1967 and was blown away. He is in my opinion the best living blues artist. Thanks Again!

served me lunch one time...then sat and ate with us...my Buddytale

375 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:17:44pm

re: #356 LudwigVanQuixote

The vast majority of gun owners in open carry states know the rules but the average responsible gun owner wouldn't bring a gun to a political event. These people have researched the fine print in the laws and know exactly how far they can push it. Most people wouldn't take the risk of going over the line. It's some sort of instigation. I'm not sure exactly what point they're trying to make.

376 Kenneth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:17:57pm

re: #350 Last Mohican

Ah yes, you would be referring to cub reporter Obama's fine work in "Breaking the War Mentality"

377 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:18:48pm

re: #375 Killgore Trout

The vast majority of gun owners in open carry states know the rules but the average responsible gun owner wouldn't bring a gun to a political event. These people have researched the fine print in the laws and know exactly how far they can push it. Most people wouldn't take the risk of going over the line. It's some sort of instigation. I'm not sure exactly what point they're trying to make.

The Black Panthers of course famously used exactly the same tactic in California in the 60s. And I think they were looking for exactly the same outcome.

378 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:18:49pm

re: #352 Killgore Trout

You're pretty close with one exception. The idea of bringing guns to the protests came up about two weeks before the guy in New Hampshire. There was a flurry of twitter and blogs posts encouraging people to bring guns to the protests.

Which verifies a theory I have about the collective intelligence of Twit-ter-ers.

380 SFGoth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:19:24pm

re: #338 wahabicorridor

That's about right. Germans don't much like the Amis but they really resent the French coming off as victors when they supinely surrendered. 2004 they were fighting about EADS

The French put up more of a fight in Hearts of Iron than IRL.

381 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:19:37pm

re: #378 DaddyG

Which verifies a theory I have about the collective intelligence of Twit-ter-ers.

Birdbrains?

382 Last Mohican  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:19:45pm

re: #360 HAL2010

I think the USA will be involved in more and more asymmetric warfare, not large scale battles that were envisioned to take place in Europe should the Soviets invade.

I have nothing against Obama wanting to develop proven technologies that are well-suited toward asymmetric warfare in Afghanistan. For example, camel saddles. Go for it. However, I'd sleep a lot better at night if I were confident that the U.S. armed forces could easily take down the massive conventional military forces of Iran and North Korea, among others.

Me personally, I would not have selected national defense as the only major part of the budget to see a decrease in spending, while everything else goes through the roof with the Stimulus Bill.

383 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:19:49pm

re: #343 HAL2010

So having weapons that were relevant 20 years ago in the defence budget today makes sense to you? Really?

Weapons relevant in the budget 20 years ago include the A-10 (that has repeatedly been sought to be canned in favor of others, and maintained in budgets thereafter); the F-15, F-16, M1 Abrams, M2 Bradley, etc. The aircraft are quite useful. So are tanks and infantry support vehicles.

New versions of aircraft that do similar jobs are necessary because the technology improves - hence the M1-A2, the F-15E, A-10II, etc.

Some aircraft get retired and replaced with more capable craft - the JSF and F-22. Others are replaced because they're too expensive - the F-14 come to mind.

Humvees have multiple shortcomings, but are still produced, even as Strykers and other vehicles are now utilized in numbers because of better occupant protection from IEDs.

The Pentagon procurement is a nightmare (and the humorous Pentagon Wars is the tip of the iceberg).

Fact is that we never know what kind of threats we're going to face. The Taliban will be a persistent threat, but threats will continue from likely sources and instigators like China, Russia, North Korea and Iran, and unlikely places. The problem is an Administration that looks to cut defense spending while facing divergent threats - the current one.

Combine that with the way that it can take years before a weapons program becomes active in the military.

384 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:19:59pm

re: #363 HelloDare

Ouch.

385 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:20:16pm

re: #360 HAL2010

I think the USA will be involved in more and more asymmetric warfare, not large scale battles that were envisioned to take place in Europe should the Soviets invade.

As far as I'm aware, there is little push for (for instance) a new generation of main battle tank.

But air dominance? That's relevant in any theater. Missile defense? That's MORE relevant now than it was 20 years ago.

386 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:20:17pm

re: #323 Last Mohican

Whoa. I'm watching at work with the sound off, so I don't know exactly what's going on.

Let me propose the following hypotheses:

1. These folks got the idea of bringing guns to a presidential event from William Kostric's doing so.

2. The more people keep doing this, the more it will inspire other people to do this.

3. Having more and more people bringing firearms to demonstrations at presidential events will eventually result in someone getting shot. Perhaps some union thug will be beating up an anti-Obama protester, and an armed anti-Obama protester will feel compelled to respond with gunfire. Or perhaps the Secret Service will shoot one of the armed protesters. Asking the Secret Service to keep the president 100% safe, without shooting people, when there are people carrying assault rifles around, is asking a lot.

Rival bands of political wack-jobs actually did shoot it out on the streets of Greensboro NC some years ago, with the Communist Workers Party on one side and local KKK and Nazis on the other.
Greensboro Massacre.
Five people were killed and it could have been much worse; it was a very small event with only some media and a few gawkers in addition to the nutbars themselves.

387 LudwigVanQuixote  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:20:18pm

re: #375 Killgore Trout

The vast majority of gun owners in open carry states know the rules but the average responsible gun owner wouldn't bring a gun to a political event. These people have researched the fine print in the laws and know exactly how far they can push it. Most people wouldn't take the risk of going over the line. It's some sort of instigation. I'm not sure exactly what point they're trying to make.

The instigation is exactly the spectacle that Fox and other Right Wing pundits want. It is the notion that the average American is so hopping mad about this - look how far they will go... It opens up a giant pandora's box, but the people puling these strings are not interested in consequences.

388 wahabicorridor  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:20:25pm

re: #375 Killgore Trout

The vast majority of gun owners in open carry states know the rules but the average responsible gun owner wouldn't bring a gun to a political event. These people have researched the fine print in the laws and know exactly how far they can push it. Most people wouldn't take the risk of going over the line. It's some sort of instigation. I'm not sure exactly what point they're trying to make.

Well - and I say this as an adament 2nd amendment upporter - they point they DO make is that they're stupid. I love my gun. Her name is Faith. And she's not going anywhere near any political evernt ever period full stop.

389 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:20:39pm

Registration closed.

I have a feeling there may be one or two trolls that slipped through.

390 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:21:02pm

re: #363 HelloDare

Related story - 7-11's near the fire have run out of twinkies and doritos. :)

391 wahabicorridor  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:21:22pm

re: #380 SFGoth

The French put up more of a fight in Hearts of Iron than IRL.

Hearts of Iron? IRL?

HELP! Clueless...

392 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:21:31pm

re: #385 Occasional Reader

As far as I'm aware, there is little push for (for instance) a new generation of main battle tank.

But air dominance? That's relevant in any theater. Missile defense? That's MORE relevant now than it was 20 years ago.

The US tank platform will continue to be centered on the M1 Abrams, but with improved technologies to make it more survivable, more lethal, and better suited to a wide range of threats - including IEDs.

As you say, air dominance is key, as is missile defense.

393 LudwigVanQuixote  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:21:42pm

re: #389 Charles

Registration closed.

I have a feeling there may be one or two trolls that slipped through.

Well, one or two trolls are fun to bash before they flounce...

394 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:22:02pm

Calling all newbies. This open thread is a great place to test the waters. Come on in. The wading pool is warm.

395 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:22:21pm

re: #375 Killgore Trout

Probably, neither are they. I've run into more than a few single-issue 2nd Amendment folks, and some of them - not all, by any means, but some - are so fanatical, that they push "right" past the realm of reason.

396 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:22:31pm

re: #393 LudwigVanQuixote

Well, one or two trolls are fun to bash before they flounce...

Mebbe a five year flounce?

397 VegasRick  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:23:32pm

re: #390 Mad Al-Jaffee

Related story - 7-11's near the fire have run out of twinkies and doritos. :)

Duuude!

398 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:24:13pm

re: #389 Charles

Registration closed.

I have a feeling there may be one or two trolls that slipped through.


We should have a pool regarding the reveal method of the first new troll. Will he/she:

A. Criticize Charles for being a traitor to the conservative cause?
B. Scream about how death panels are true and proven?
C. Link to an image of his/her "Glen Beck Weeping" tattoo.
D. [Fill Your Answer Here]

Buck a play...

399 Last Mohican  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:24:23pm

re: #379 mrbaracuda

Oooh, cell phones with projectors, would you look at this?

Charles had a thread on one of these recently.

400 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:24:25pm

re: #385 Occasional Reader

As far as I'm aware, there is little push for (for instance) a new generation of main battle tank.

But air dominance? That's relevant in any theater. Missile defense? That's MORE relevant now than it was 20 years ago.

The Abrams has been quite reliable, and has had upgraded electronics.
We aren't building them new, but taking existing ones, stripping them and rebuilding them. Military channel and similar networks have shown this process. R. Lee Ermy says none have been lost to enemy fire, so there probably is a reason we're just rebuilding the ones we have, with upgraded electronics, than building whole new ones.
I could see designing a new powerplant that didn't gulp fuel, though, but it could be used in existing hulls.

401 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:24:32pm

re: #364 Locker

That's two sound theories in one day, neither of which deal with abnormally-large men. Kinda makes me feel like Riverdancing.

Do ya know what we need, man? Some rope.

402 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:24:45pm

re: #398 Locker

We should have a pool regarding the reveal method of the first new troll. Will he/she:

A. Criticize Charles for being a traitor to the conservative cause?
B. Scream about how death panels are true and proven?
C. Link to an image of his/her "Glen Beck Weeping" tattoo.
D. [Fill Your Answer Here]

Buck a play...

E. Ron Paul!

403 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:24:46pm

re: #389 Charles

Registration closed.

I have a feeling there may be one or two trolls that slipped through.

Final count of socks?

404 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:25:33pm

re: #389 Charles

Registration closed.

I have a feeling there may be one or two trolls that slipped through.

I was planning to have Marie Callendar's frozen for dinner.
Can I get my hopes up that there's a better option?

405 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:25:36pm

re: #388 wahabicorridor

Well - and I say this as an adament 2nd amendment upporter - they point they DO make is that they're stupid. I love my gun. Her name is Faith. And she's not going anywhere near any political evernt ever period full stop.

Reminds me of a scene in Firefly, when Jayne introduces his favorite rifle, "Her name's Vera"

406 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:25:41pm

re: #401 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Do ya know what we need, man? Some rope.

Charlie Bronson's always got rope.

407 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:25:44pm

re: #397 VegasRick
I wish I could change my nic..
IROLLMYOWN...
With A 50 Beuowlf cartrige for an I-con...

408 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:25:47pm

re: #398 Locker

We should have a pool regarding the reveal method of the first new troll. Will he/she:

A. Criticize Charles for being a traitor to the conservative cause?
B. Scream about how death panels are true and proven?
C. Link to an image of his/her "Glen Beck Weeping" tattoo.
D. [Fill Your Answer Here]

Buck a play...

D. CHARLES JUST HATES [Fill in topic under conversation here]
E. RON PAUL!

409 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:26:01pm

re: #382 Last Mohican

I have nothing against Obama wanting to develop proven technologies that are well-suited toward asymmetric warfare in Afghanistan. For example, camel saddles. Go for it. However, I'd sleep a lot better at night if I were confident that the U.S. armed forces could easily take down the massive conventional military forces of Iran and North Korea, among others.

Me personally, I would not have selected national defense as the only major part of the budget to see a decrease in spending, while everything else goes through the roof with the Stimulus Bill.

Yeah. I think you underestimate the scale of the US defense budget. Not only did it rise 5.7 % in the 09 fiscal year, compared to 08, it is also "almost as much as the rest of the world's defense spending combined".

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

To say that that the US should invest in "camel saddles" is ridiculous. I would hope that people at LGF would realise that this is a new form of warfare, of which there will be more. Not less.

410 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:26:04pm

re: #390 Mad Al-Jaffee

Dammit. You made me spit cake.

411 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:26:29pm

re: #379 mrbaracuda

Oooh, cell phones with projectors, would you look at this?

Note to teens: Now not only can your girlfriends send each other embarassing pictures of you at last weekends party but they can project them on the cafeteria wall.

412 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:26:30pm

re: #386 Shiplord Kirel

Wow. I had no idea! Thanks for the link.

413 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:26:33pm

re: #400 Kosh's Shadow

I could see designing a new powerplant that didn't gulp fuel

I want one with frickkin' laser beams attached to its head. I mean, turret.

414 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:26:39pm

re: #389 Charles

Registration closed.

I have a feeling there may be one or two trolls that slipped through.

They'll reveal themselves in time

It's in their DNA

415 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:26:56pm

re: #405 Kosh's Shadow

Reminds me of a scene in Firefly, when Jayne introduces his favorite rifle, "Her name's Vera"

Which worried me. And Mal.

416 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:27:04pm

The list of hatchlings, minus the blocked sock puppets:

brennant
OldNavy73
Girth
labdog
Mean Motor Scooter
Robbins Mitchell
Krogenar
aubry
RickyRacer
jimgordon
NotoriouslyConservative
tomw
HoosierDaddy?
JerusalemAsher
teardrop
nothingistrue
CommonDefense
DaveDFW
Gadsden
RoadWarrior
adelnyc
pjkelly
rossbach451
Aurelius317
sofiabg999
akalivas
Arrattascelve
PrimalRage
rayzin
Dynomite
Teufelhunden
Tock Woods
mpoulos42
KernelPanic
R.B.Glennie
schmitzik
Giovanni in Westwood
Earthling48
Rowdy1
richmanwash
Movin Forward
Jokey501
WizF16
shimoda
JoeBumble
InvisibleCHI

417 Last Mohican  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:27:05pm

re: #398 Locker

We should have a pool regarding the reveal method of the first new troll. Will he/she:

A. Criticize Charles for being a traitor to the conservative cause?
B. Scream about how death panels are true and proven?
C. Link to an image of his/her "Glen Beck Weeping" tattoo.
D. [Fill Your Answer Here]

Buck a play...

Depends on what Charles chooses for the post-open-registration "flush 'em out" thread. I vote for a Sarah Palin "death panels" thread. I think that would have the best chance of of producing a good fiery flounce, rather than one of those less satisfying slow smolders.

418 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:27:19pm

re: #413 Occasional Reader

I want one with frickkin' laser beams attached to its head. I mean, turret.

Is it an ill tempered turret?

419 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:27:28pm

re: #409 HAL2010

Yeah. I think you underestimate the scale of the US defense budget. Not only did it rise 5.7 % in the 09 fiscal year, compared to 08, it is also "almost as much as the rest of the world's defense spending combined".

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

To say that that the US should invest in "camel saddles" is ridiculous. I would hope that people at LGF would realise that this is a new form of warfare, of which there will be more. Not less.

And it seems the US is the target of almost the rest of the world, so perhaps we need it.
(Also, IIRC, the Obama budget combined the continuing resolutions for Iraq and Afghanistan with the base budget, reduced that, and then said they increased military spending because it was higher than the base budget without the continuing resolutions.)

420 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:27:57pm

re: #398 Locker

We should have a pool regarding the reveal method of the first new troll. Will he/she:

A. Criticize Charles for being a traitor to the conservative cause?
B. Scream about how death panels are true and proven?
C. Link to an image of his/her "Glen Beck Weeping" tattoo.
D. [Fill Your Answer Here]

Buck a play...

D. The "I am only asking questions" defense on the Birther issue?

As for a weeping Glen Beck tattoo, that sounds just too awsome to be true.

421 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:28:22pm

re: #416 Charles

Last count of socks was 11. Is that the final on the sock puppets?

422 albusteve  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:28:41pm

re: #409 HAL2010

Yeah. I think you underestimate the scale of the US defense budget. Not only did it rise 5.7 % in the 09 fiscal year, compared to 08, it is also "almost as much as the rest of the world's defense spending combined".

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

To say that that the US should invest in "camel saddles" is ridiculous. I would hope that people at LGF would realise that this is a new form of warfare, of which there will be more. Not less.

of course it is, that's the point...and there are people here at LGF that are way out in front of the military curve

423 Silvergirl  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:28:41pm

HoosierDaddy? is a hatchling? Okay, Hoops, take off that sock! ;-)

424 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:28:44pm

re: #416 Charles

What is the lizard total?

425 Charpete67  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:28:57pm

re: #398 Locker

We should have a pool regarding the reveal method of the first new troll. Will he/she:

A. Criticize Charles for being a traitor to the conservative cause?
B. Scream about how death panels are true and proven?
C. Link to an image of his/her "Glen Beck Weeping" tattoo.
D. [Fill Your Answer Here]

Buck a play...

use the words "kenya" and "certificate" somewhere in their first post

426 HelloDare  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:29:16pm

re: #379 mrbaracuda

Oooh, cell phones with projectors, would you look at this?

Can the shoe phone be far behind?

427 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:29:49pm

re: #417 Last Mohican

I'm so sick of Sarah Palin, it just makes me want to cry.

428 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:29:55pm

re: #421 Dianna

Last count of socks was 11. Is that the final on the sock puppets?

Final count: 13.

429 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:29:55pm

re: #416 Charles

The list of hatchlings, minus the blocked sock puppets:

brennant
OldNavy73
Girth
labdog
Mean Motor Scooter
Robbins Mitchell
Krogenar
aubry
RickyRacer
jimgordon
NotoriouslyConservative
tomw
HoosierDaddy?
JerusalemAsher
teardrop
nothingistrue
CommonDefense
DaveDFW
Gadsden
RoadWarrior
adelnyc
pjkelly
rossbach451
Aurelius317
sofiabg999
akalivas
Arrattascelve
PrimalRage
rayzin
Dynomite
Teufelhunden
Tock Woods
mpoulos42
KernelPanic
R.B.Glennie
schmitzik
Giovanni in Westwood
Earthling48
Rowdy1
richmanwash
Movin Forward
Jokey501
WizF16
shimoda
JoeBumble
InvisibleCHI

Who the hell registered HoosierDaddy? There is a banned lizard that called me that all the time...check that IP Charles please..

430 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:29:55pm

re: #403 Dianna

Final count of socks?

"Argyle will keep you guessing."

/channeling the troll

431 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:30:03pm

re: #416 Charles

Hoosier Daddy? Clever.

Hey Hoops!? You see that?

432 Caboose  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:30:04pm

re: #122 Dianna

One of John Entwhistle's, wasn't it? I forgave him because there are so few science fiction songs.


So few Science-fiction songs?!? You mean to tell me that you have never heard of Hawkwind? They were one of the progenitors of fantasy/sci-fi/space rock. Micheal Moorcock wrote a couple of songs for them and they returned the favor on an album he did in the '70's.

Get the following albums from Amazon thru Charles's link: Quark, Strangeness and Charm (with a tune inspired by Zelany's novel of the same name "Damnation Alley"), P.X.R. 5, The Xenon Codex, Hall of the Mountain Grill, Levitation, 25 Years On (by the offshoot Hawklords), In Search of Space and the classic Warrior on the Edge of Time. Be forewarned that there are a LOT of iffy recordings out there and it is advisable to stay with the major label, studio releases at first. There are some real poor quality bootlegs out there.

While he was purely an instrumentalist on guitar, Moog and keys, a lot of Richard Pinhas/Heldon's material was also influenced by scifi authors and Norman Spinrad did some vocal work (note that i didn't say he sang) on East/West.

433 Mad Al-Jaffee  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:30:07pm

re: #426 HelloDare

Soon we'll have phones that can do anything but make and receive phone calls.

434 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:30:24pm

re: #419 Kosh's Shadow

And it seems the US is the target of almost the rest of the world, so perhaps we need it.
(Also, IIRC, the Obama budget combined the continuing resolutions for Iraq and Afghanistan with the base budget, reduced that, and then said they increased military spending because it was higher than the base budget without the continuing resolutions.)

Target of the rest of the world?
I'm sorry, come again?

Please here list the number of countries you think pose a real and present danger to the United States. I can think of North Korea. In a few years time, perhaps Iran.

435 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:30:44pm

re: #413 Occasional Reader

I want one with frickkin' laser beams attached to its head. I mean, turret.

I'll take the kind Hammer's Slammers uses.

436 KernelPanic  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:30:52pm

re: #41 Sharmuta

Having missed all the past open registrations I finally made the window today. I promise not to meltdown or flounce off in a huff for at least a few days.

What brought me here? I'm actually a (D) from Cambridge, MA (!!) although I moved further out of Boston and bought a place up in western maine. Despite being a bleeding-heart Dem. I've also got a carry permit, a few handguns and some reloading gear from IPSC/IDPA days.

I own 25% of the small biotechnology consulting business that I started with friends a few years back. The healthcare debate has been really interesting as my company needs to provide best-of-the-best benefits in order to attract world class talent. We currently pay 100% of the cost for top-tier PPOs for all our employees and I've regularly seen our healthcare costs rise 30% year over year. Despite the fact that the cost is a tax benefit for us it's really hard for a small company with less than 20 staff to find insurance of any kind. The other creepy thing is learning just how much our 52 year old employee swings our costs compared to the rest of the 30-somethings on the plan. The insurance broker actually told me in dollar figures how much $$ we'd save if we did not have the 52 year old on staff which I personally thought was highly inappropriate but probably normal in business. I'm mostly a science/technical nerd but small business stuff has been oddly interesting when viewed behind the scenes.

I'm mostly here because I'd like to be a Republican but the current crop of anti-science & social conservatives leading the party (both organizationally and as running candidates) make that impossible so now I'm self-identifying as an independent. It was probably Charles's posts on creationism and anti-science efforts that brought me here in the first place.

437 Kenneth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:30:58pm

re: #345 Occasional Reader

Ah the longbow! Now there's a fascinating history...

438 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:31:03pm

re: #431 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hoosier Daddy? Clever.

Hey Hoops!? You see that?

See my #429...I'm filing a lawsuit in the morning

439 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:31:05pm

re: #429 HoosierHoops

Did "Quiet Man" try to sneak back in?

440 Charpete67  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:31:17pm

re: #431 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Hoosier Daddy? Clever.

Hey Hoops!? You see that?

I think he did

441 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:31:23pm

re: #418 Locker

Is it an ill tempered turret?

How about a well-tempered clavier?

Your text to link...

442 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:31:26pm

Well, Hoosier Daddy. You've been noticed. Come out and say "Hi!"

443 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:31:37pm

Here fishy fishy fishy!

444 HelloDare  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:31:39pm

re: #416 Charles

JoeBumble. That's a great nic. Made me laugh.

445 lawhawk  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:31:52pm

re: #428 Charles

Final count: 13.

Ah, who's got the unmatched sock? Looks like we're missing one.

OT:
Looks like Hurricane Bill may make life miserable for Bermuda and those who enjoy cruising over the next week.

446 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:31:52pm

re: #428 Charles

Final count: 13.

$26 on its way!

Assuming I don't (again) lose my temper with Pay Pal.

447 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:32:20pm

re: #436 KernelPanic

Welcome.

448 Silvergirl  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:32:48pm

re: #416 Charles

Does JoeBumble sting or botch things up?

Is nothingistrue an existentialist?

Will PrimalRage type in all caps?

449 Learned Mother of Zion  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:33:04pm

Welcome hatchlings, make sure to shop at the Zionist Mall. The more Ahava products we sell, the more pissed off Code Pink will be.

450 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:33:18pm

re: #429 HoosierHoops

Who the hell registered HoosierDaddy? There is a banned lizard that called me that all the time...check that IP Charles please..

What was the banned username?

451 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:33:24pm

re: #435 Kosh's Shadow

I'll take the kind Hammer's Slammers uses.

All I want it my very own bolt gun, is that too much to ask for?

452 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:33:24pm

Shimoda?

453 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:33:37pm

re: #434 HAL2010

Please here list the number of countries you think pose a real and present danger to the United States

Uh, sorry... wrong standard for defense planning.

454 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:33:39pm

re: #436 KernelPanic

Wonderful! Thank you for sharing, and welcome to LGF!

455 Coracle  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:33:52pm

re: #435 Kosh's Shadow

I'll take the kind Hammer's Slammers uses.

I loved Hammers Slammers for a while. Then I got a little tired of "any problem can be solved by application of a sufficient number of tanks." Especially when you discover the allure of Ortillery Command.

456 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:34:08pm
457 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:34:10pm

re: #434 HAL2010

Target of the rest of the world?
I'm sorry, come again?

Please here list the number of countries you think pose a real and present danger to the United States. I can think of North Korea. In a few years time, perhaps Iran.

Given the time it takes to develop a weapon system, (which puts it a few years ahead), we need to be prepared for threats from China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea, and terrorists, possibly with nuclear weapons from those countries.
I doubt the Arab countries would attack the US; they'd just cut off oil first.

458 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:34:22pm

re: #418 Locker

Is it an ill tempered turret?

You're thinking of "turtle" - they're mad because no one gives them props for holding this crappy old universe up anymore...

459 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:34:29pm

re: #434 HAL2010

Target of the rest of the world?
I'm sorry, come again?

Please here list the number of countries you think pose a real and present danger to the United States. I can think of North Korea. In a few years time, perhaps Iran.

Best to be prepared. We'll regret not having enough Raptors.

460 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:34:33pm

re: #422 albusteve

of course it is, that's the point...and there are people here at LGF that are way out in front of the military curve

It's not the point. Its condescending to those currently working to rid Afghanistan of the threat of the Taliban. In the last 4 days four British Servicemen have died. I find it the height of ignorance to suggest that somehow they would be better off with camel saddles.
He is misinformed or ignorant to the dangers Afghanistan represents.
I would hope it is latter.
The type of warfare they are fighting are not solved by a two million missile, but carefully planned and executed tactics and new forms of weaponry.

461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:34:42pm

re: #454 Sharmuta

You see my 452?

462 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:34:48pm

re: #450 Charles

What was the banned username?

I'll email you in 2 minutes...That is just weird..Plus the user hangs out the stalker blog..

463 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:34:54pm

re: #452 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Shimoda?

If it walks in looking like Toshiro Mifune, I'm runnin' for the door!

464 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:35:29pm

re: #462 HoosierHoops

You gotta tell us all later!

465 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:35:34pm

re: #463 pre-Boomer Marine brat

If it walks in looking like Toshiro Mifune, I'm runnin' for the door!

Wont do you any good to run if Mifune is after you, you'll just die tired.

466 Occasional Reader  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:35:35pm

Later.

467 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:35:39pm

re: #458 Cato the Elder

You're thinking of "turtle" - they're mad because no one gives them props for holding this crappy old universe up anymore...

They've been here since before the beginning.

468 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:36:12pm

re: #461 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Could be innocent. I'll trust in Stinky.

469 albusteve  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:36:23pm

re: #460 HAL2010

It's not the point. Its condescending to those currently working to rid Afghanistan of the threat of the Taliban. In the last 4 days four British Servicemen have died. I find it the height of ignorance to suggest that somehow they would be better off with camel saddles.
He is misinformed or ignorant to the dangers Afghanistan represents.
I would hope it is latter.
The type of warfare they are fighting are not solved by a two million missile, but carefully planned and executed tactics and new forms of weaponry.

chill out...get some perspective, then post

470 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:36:50pm

re: #439 Cato the Elder

Did "Quiet Man" try to sneak back in?

Yes, he's now known as: "I Hate Cato the Elder"...watch out for him

471 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:36:58pm

re: #456 taxfreekiller
That's a rhetorical question right??

TRO DA BUM OUT ALREADY!!!

472 VegasRick  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:37:19pm

re: #450 Charles

What was the banned username?

Charles, "Hoosier Daddy?" is a common phrase in the sportsworld ever since Indiana coach Bobby Knight got pissed off when Michigan State fans chanted that during a game.

473 Kenneth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:37:28pm

re: #434 HAL2010

China has made no secret of her ambitions to build a military to rival the US. If they chose to, they would present a far greater threat to the US today, than either Iran or North Korea.

474 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:37:44pm

re: #465 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wont do you any good to run if Mifune is after you, you'll just die tired.

heh

Remember th' killer he captured in Yojimbo? A downward swing, the perp screamed and froze, arms out, ... then his clothes dropped off.

475 Randall Gross  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:38:05pm

The COIN vs Convential military stance debate is a religious war with right and logic for both arguments. SWJ and others hold that discussion pretty well.

476 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:38:17pm

re: #436 KernelPanic

Best first post I ever saw.

478 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:38:42pm

re: #453 Occasional Reader

So what hostile nations, that would go to war with the US, do you see in the foreseeable future?

Like I have already written, I could imagine there to be two: North Korea and perhaps Iran.

479 Last Mohican  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:38:53pm

re: #409 HAL2010

Yeah. I think you underestimate the scale of the US defense budget. Not only did it rise 5.7 % in the 09 fiscal year, compared to 08,

The Obama adminstration asked the Joint Chiefs to cut the Pentagon's 2010 budget request by more than ten percent, or about $55 billion. That would still represent an 8% increase compared to FY2009, and would be no less than what the Bush administration had estimated for FY2010. This is at a time when the "stimulus bill" has produced staggering, unprecedented increases in spending in most other areas. So I'd say we're both kinda right.

it is also "almost as much as the rest of the world's defense spending combined [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I've seen that comparison made. I don't have a problem with it.

To say that that the US should invest in "camel saddles" is ridiculous. I would hope that people at LGF would realise that this is a new form of warfare, of which there will be more. Not less.

I think that some people at LGF realize that there's a new form of warfare here, but have actually participated in it. I hope the Pentagon is busy figuring out how best to neutralize jihadis who hide behind children in public markets, after placing IEDs by the side of the road. But I also hope that they're ready to neutralize the 950,000-man Iranian army.

480 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:38:57pm
481 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:39:00pm

re: #436 KernelPanic

I'm mostly here because I'd like to be a Republican but the current crop of anti-science & social conservatives leading the party (both organizationally and as running candidates) make that impossible so now I'm self-identifying as an independent. It was probably Charles's posts on creationism and anti-science efforts that brought me here in the first place.

Me too, without a doubt. Actual, publicized critical thought draws me like a bee to honey. Welcome to the fray, enjoy your stay.

482 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:39:05pm

re: #432 Caboose

Thank you! I hadn't run across a couple of those.

483 albusteve  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:39:34pm

re: #477 HelloDare

Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals in All 50 States, Says Gallup Poll

now, if they would just get to the polls and support a balanced budget of some sort

484 Last Mohican  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:40:03pm

re: #479 Last Mohican

I think that some people at LGF not only realize that there's a new form of warfare here, but have actually participated in it. I hope the Pentagon is busy figuring out how best to neutralize jihadis who hide behind children in public markets, after placing IEDs by the side of the road. But I also hope that they're ready to neutralize the 950,000-man Iranian army.

PIMF

485 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:40:14pm

re: #439 Cato the Elder

I didn't know Quiet Man was silenced.

486 Leonidas Hoplite  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:40:16pm

re: #478 HAL2010

So what hostile nations, that would go to war with the US, do you see in the foreseeable future?

Like I have already written, I could imagine there to be two: North Korea and perhaps Iran.

So, in 1925, would you have envisioned being at war with Germany and Japan at the same time?

487 Kenneth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:40:30pm

re: #460 HAL2010

The tactics used by the well trained US troops are very effective. Your criticism should be directed toward the strategy and goals directed by the senior command and politicians. Good tactics are nothing without good strategy to direct them.

488 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:40:58pm

re: #473 Kenneth

China has made no secret of her ambitions to build a military to rival the US. If they chose to, they would present a far greater threat to the US today, than either Iran or North Korea.

Well, a few points.

A. They do not have anywhere near the financial muscle to do that.
B. In what way would a large Chinese army threaten the United States in a way that is worse than their current nuclear arsenal?

489 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:41:20pm

re: #472 VegasRick

Charles, "Hoosier Daddy?" is a common phrase in the sportsworld ever since Indiana coach Bobby Knight got pissed off when Michigan State fans chanted that during a game.

You could be right...I was called that nic numerous times here the last year...From a banned user...They is no harm at all checking out the IP...

490 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:41:36pm

re: #436 KernelPanic

*salute* and Welcome!

/keep in mind that it's a tough room -- have fact-links in a handy holster

491 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:41:41pm

Afternoon all...any new lizards present?

492 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:42:19pm

re: #427 Dianna

I'm so sick of Sarah Palin, it just makes me want to cry.

She does seem to be fading a bit. I'll ease off till the next inevitable expectoration of shtoopid.

If she can't crank it up a bit, she might want to ask that jumped-up little preacherman in the YouTube vid to recharge the "wurrd of pahwurr" he invoked on her head. I'm sure Gawd will oblige.

493 VegasRick  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:42:32pm

re: #489 HoosierHoops

You could be right...I was called that nic numerous times here the last year...From a banned user...They is no harm at all checking out the IP...

For sure.

494 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:43:02pm

re: #470 Desert Dog

Yes, he's now known as: "I Hate Cato the Elder"...watch out for him

That's because my awful redneck imitation tricked him into revealing his racist hand.

495 Last Mohican  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:43:50pm

re: #477 HelloDare

Conservatives Now Outnumber Liberals in All 50 States, Says Gallup Poll

That couldn't possibly be true.

So I looked it up. Turns out it is true.

Wow.

496 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:43:54pm

re: #492 Cato the Elder

She does seem to be fading a bit. I'll ease off till the next inevitable expectoration of shtoopid.

If she can't crank it up a bit, she might want to ask that jumped-up little preacherman in the YouTube vid to recharge the "wurrd of pahwurr" he invoked on her head. I'm sure Gawd will oblige.

Gawd, I hope not.

497 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:44:11pm

re: #494 Cato the Elder

That's because my awful redneck imitation tricked him into revealing his racist hand.

You need to work on your hillbilly accent...that Latin tinge always comes through.

498 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:44:12pm

re: #491 Fenway_Nation

Afternoon all...any new lizards present?

CHeck out KernalPanic's first post up above. It's very good.

499 Russkilitlover  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:44:26pm

re: #488 HAL2010

Well, a few points.

A. They do not have anywhere near the financial muscle to do that.

Um...they currently hold quite a lot of our debt. And are getting very nervous about our the impact of our financial decisions on those bonds. Nervous and pissed, actually.

500 Kenneth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:45:00pm

re: #488 HAL2010

The biggest part of China's military build up is their Navy. And then there is the unknown but very large threat of the Chinese cyberwarfare branch. The point is we may not know what the biggest threat is until it's too late.

501 HAL2010  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:45:14pm

Well, this is an interesting debate, no doubt. But alas, I must depart for a short while.

I'll perhaps you later this evening

Laters!

502 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:45:27pm

re: #497 Desert Dog

You need to work on your hillbilly accent...that Latin tinge always comes through.

Hola Y'all?

503 VegasRick  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:45:33pm

re: #494 Cato the Elder

That's because my awful redneck imitation tricked him into revealing his racist hand.

WOW! I'm glad you never used your superior mind tricks on me!
*ego

504 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:46:11pm

re: #235 Charles

Wow. A sudden influx of sock puppets. 6 in the past 5 minutes.

Surely they have a hot-line alert by now. Someone sitting here 24/7, ready to cue the masses.

505 Erik The Red  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:46:13pm

re: #489 HoosierHoops

Hey 2H and everyone. We have a meet and greet at the school/church this evening for new parents. Should be fun(I think) Will be great for Mrs. Red to meet some new mothers. :)

506 HelloDare  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:46:26pm

re: #436 KernelPanic

Nothing wrong with being an independent. And letting the Democratic party know why you left.

507 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:46:28pm

re: #503 VegasRick

WOW! I'm glad you never used your superior mind tricks on me!
*ego

"Those aren't the droids you are searching for...starting talking like an ass..."

508 Kenneth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:46:42pm

re: #494 Cato the Elder

Maybe it was your Palin 2012 bumper-sticker that fooled him.

509 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:46:56pm
510 Erik The Red  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:46:58pm

re: #505 Erik The Red

Hey 2H and everyone. We have a meet and greet at the school/church this evening for new parents. Should be fun(I think) Will be great for Mrs. Red to meet some new mothers. :)

Hello Newbies. Don't forget drinks are on you.

511 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:48:10pm

My all-time favorite on-the-road-and-can't-go-home-again love song.

Youtube Video
512 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:48:24pm

re: #508 Kenneth

Maybe it was your Palin 2012 bumper-sticker that fooled him.

We all know the truth about Cato. He goes on and on about Sarah. But, late at night, when the lights are low, he breaks out his personal copy of "Nailin' Palin"...we are on to you, sir!

///

513 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:48:29pm

Welcome Newbies,

I'm fairly new myself. Enjoy!

514 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:48:30pm

re: #488 HAL2010

Well, a few points.

A. They do not have anywhere near the financial muscle to do that.
What? We are up to our eyebrows in debt to the Chinese.

B. In what way would a large Chinese army threaten the United States in a way that is worse than their current nuclear arsenal?


See below

Says Defense Dept.

515 HelloDare  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:48:33pm

re: #495 Last Mohican

That couldn't possibly be true.

So I looked it up. Turns out it is true.

Wow.

You doubted me? /

516 VegasRick  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:48:40pm

re: #509 taxfreekiller

Obama is working his magic, many of us have been attempting to motivate the conservatives for years, hell Obama out did us all in 9 months.

You Go Obama!

Keep up the good work!

517 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:49:11pm

re: #510 Erik The Red

Hello Newbies. Don't forget drinks are on you.

What is the most expensive Scotch known to man?
Newbees gotta pay their dues...( you just pray they carry AMEX)
Hi Erik...Sounds like a great evening ahead of you

518 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:49:38pm

re: #512 Desert Dog

Stop! Stop! I just fell out of my office chair and am typing on the floor! Mercy!

519 albusteve  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:50:02pm

re: #515 HelloDare

You doubted me? /

I thought it has always been true

520 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:50:09pm

re: #512 Desert Dog

We all know the truth about Cato. He goes on and on about Sarah. But, late at night, when the lights are low, he breaks out his personal copy of "Nailin' Palin"...we are on to you, sir!

///

Haven't seen Cato challenge Palin's credentials as being "nailable" just as being "electable".

521 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:50:19pm

re: #516 VegasRick

Keep up the good work!

He is as good as Bush was at motivating the left...thank you, Mr. President. You have revived a corpse!

522 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:50:37pm

cnn: People Bring Assault Weapons/Pistols To Obama Event

Youtube Video
523 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:50:46pm

re: #517 HoosierHoops

What is the most expensive Scotch known to man?
Newbees gotta pay their dues...( you just pray they carry AMEX)
Hi Erik...Sounds like a great evening ahead of you

I don't know what's the most expensive scotch, but Henessy's Paradis runs about $250 the bottle. And it's not even a whole fifth!

524 redstateredneck  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:50:56pm

Hey, {y'all}
New crop of newbies?

525 Randall Gross  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:51:20pm

Personally I think that any future big threat to the US will come as a Strategy of Technology type threat, we have a window of tech superiority now, but that is closing.

[Link: www.jerrypournelle.com...]

526 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:51:27pm

re: #517 HoosierHoops

What is the most expensive Scotch known to man?
Newbees gotta pay their dues...( you just pray they carry AMEX)
Hi Erik...Sounds like a great evening ahead of you

I don't know, but a bottle of late forties Margaux at a restaurant I stumbled into recently went for $6,300. I challenged the wino next to me to split a bottle, but he wussed.

527 redstateredneck  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:52:03pm

Somebody gave mrhightechredneck a bottle of Johnny Walker Blue Label, which was a damn shame since neither he nor I drink Scotch. We re-gifted it.

528 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:52:05pm

re: #525 Thanos

Personally I think that any future big threat to the US will come as a Strategy of Technology type threat, we have a window of tech superiority now, but that is closing.

[Link: www.jerrypournelle.com...]

Anti-intellectualism kills.

529 Last Mohican  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:52:11pm

re: #517 HoosierHoops

What is the most expensive Scotch known to man?
Newbees gotta pay their dues...( you just pray they carry AMEX)
Hi Erik...Sounds like a great evening ahead of you

The world's most expensive whiskies (with a clickable link to a list thereof).

Short answer: Macallan, 1926. $38,000.

530 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:52:50pm

re: #489 HoosierHoops

You could be right...I was called that nic numerous times here the last year...From a banned user...They is no harm at all checking out the IP...

I still haven't figured out how checking an IP would help unless you just get lucky. IP's are assigned by your ISP every time you reboot/log on (unless you're paying for a fixed IP). You could get lucky and find that the poster hasn't done those things between getting banned and getting a new account, but I suspect that would be a long shot.

Some techie know more about this?

531 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:53:29pm

re: #524 redstateredneck

Hey, {y'all}
New crop of newbies?

Hey {red}. Only Girth has posted so far.

532 Pianobuff  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:53:54pm

re: #517 HoosierHoops

What is the most expensive Scotch known to man?
Newbees gotta pay their dues...( you just pray they carry AMEX)
Hi Erik...Sounds like a great evening ahead of you

My wife makes bootleg whiskey, but I lover her still.

533 SasquatchOnSteroids  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:53:55pm

I survived the lunacy...
5:00

534 Kenneth  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:54:46pm

re: #511 Cato the Elder

Damn, that's a great sang. Thanks for posting it!

535 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:54:48pm

re: #526 Cato the Elder

Yikes!

I've read about bottles like that, but...my goodness!

536 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:55:02pm

re: #530 eschew_obfuscation

I still haven't figured out how checking an IP would help unless you just get lucky. IP's are assigned by your ISP every time you reboot/log on (unless you're paying for a fixed IP). You could get lucky and find that the poster hasn't done those things between getting banned and getting a new account, but I suspect that would be a long shot.

Some techie know more about this?

um yes. Charles.

537 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:55:05pm

re: #530 eschew_obfuscation

I still haven't figured out how checking an IP would help unless you just get lucky. IP's are assigned by your ISP every time you reboot/log on (unless you're paying for a fixed IP). You could get lucky and find that the poster hasn't done those things between getting banned and getting a new account, but I suspect that would be a long shot.

Some techie know more about this?

This is called a Dynamic IP address. Sometimes they change every time you reboot but normally if the same device (router/pc) is attached to your cable or dsl modem it will continue to receive the same IP address as long as the detected Mac Address of the device doesn't change.

538 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:55:06pm

re: #530 eschew_obfuscation

I still haven't figured out how checking an IP would help unless you just get lucky. IP's are assigned by your ISP every time you reboot/log on (unless you're paying for a fixed IP). You could get lucky and find that the poster hasn't done those things between getting banned and getting a new account, but I suspect that would be a long shot.

Some techie know more about this?

You can go off the system MAC address

539 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:55:54pm

re: #530 eschew_obfuscation

I still haven't figured out how checking an IP would help unless you just get lucky. IP's are assigned by your ISP every time you reboot/log on (unless you're paying for a fixed IP). You could get lucky and find that the poster hasn't done those things between getting banned and getting a new account, but I suspect that would be a long shot.

Some techie know more about this?

This is called a Dynamic IP address. Sometimes they change every time you reboot but normally if the same device (router/pc) is attached to your cable or dsl modem it will continue to receive the same IP address as long as the detected Mac Address of the device doesn't change.

540 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:55:54pm

re: #531 midwestgak

Hey {red}. Only Girth has posted so far.

Gak? You missed a beaut!

541 VegasRick  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:56:04pm

re: #532 Pianobuff

My wife makes bootleg whiskey, but I lover her still.

You trying to gin up your karma?

542 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:56:13pm

re: #531 midwestgak

Hey {red}. Only Girth has posted so far.

KernelPanic also posted. And I think JimGordon let us know he was in?

543 redstateredneck  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:56:29pm

re: #531 midwestgak

Hey {red}. Only Girth has posted so far.


Come out, come out, wherever you are...


Olly, olly, oxen, all in free...

Shy bunch.

544 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:56:43pm

re: #540 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gak? You missed a beaut!

Tell me what I missed. Pleeese.

545 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:56:47pm

re: #539 Locker

Sorry for the double post. LGF hung up in my browser and from there it was all my dorkery.

546 Last Mohican  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:57:01pm

re: #538 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You can go off the system MAC address

Hey, um, maybe some of this stuff is better left unposted?

547 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:57:17pm

Lets post an evolution thread followed up with a Tiller thread, that shoud root out any new trolls lurking in the background.

548 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:57:26pm

re: #541 VegasRick

You trying to gin up your karma?

stop rumming around with that nonsense

549 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:57:28pm

re: #538 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You can go off the system MAC address

Which you don't get in an IP packet that has already been through a router.

550 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:57:37pm

re: #537 Locker

This is called a Dynamic IP address. Sometimes they change every time you reboot but normally if the same device (router/pc) is attached to your cable or dsl modem it will continue to receive the same IP address as long as the detected Mac Address of the device doesn't change.

Isn't that the 192.168.n.n address though? ... assigned through DHCP by your router/modem?

551 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:58:05pm

re: #535 Dianna

Yikes!

I've read about bottles like that, but...my goodness!

And it was right there on the regular list, so I assume someone orders it now and then.

(This was in Western Connecticut, not far from where Al Pacino has his Right Coast estate.)

552 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:58:07pm

re: #544 midwestgak

Tell me what I missed. Pleeese.

436

553 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:58:16pm

re: #522 Killgore Trout

cnn: People Bring Assault Weapons/Pistols To Obama Event

Fat White Guy I see.

554 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:58:32pm

re: #544 midwestgak

Tell me what I missed. Pleeese.

FBV
naked
in the shower

555 McSpiff  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:58:36pm

Rotisserie chicken, fresh beans, potato salad and coleslaw... Doesn't get any better than summer

556 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:58:46pm
557 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:59:17pm

re: #553 kansas

I think the fat white guy with the pistol is the interviewer.

558 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:59:20pm

re: #550 eschew_obfuscation

Isn't that the 192.168.n.n address though? ... assigned through DHCP by your router/modem?

Thats a non routing network used as a default for local use

559 albusteve  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:59:27pm

the Dow crashed nicely again
-186
ho hum

560 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:59:57pm

Why is it I never need batteries for my keyboard until I'm alone in the office? I just bet that I get three calls while I'm at Walgreens.

561 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 1:59:58pm

re: #553 kansas

Fat White Guy I see.

Any wonder?

562 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:00:34pm

re: #537 Locker

This is called a Dynamic IP address. Sometimes they change every time you reboot but normally if the same device (router/pc) is attached to your cable or dsl modem it will continue to receive the same IP address as long as the detected Mac Address of the device doesn't change.

Very good...Saves a lot of typing for me..But really on a network the DHCP is not only dynamic but IP scope comes into play...Scope plus MAC is a powerful tool on the network...There are many more powerful tools...Inquiries into Cisco Router tables and traces are used...

563 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:00:35pm

re: #560 Dianna

Why is it I never need batteries for my keyboard until I'm alone in the office? I just bet that I get three calls while I'm at Walgreens.

Can you check for my prescription?

564 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:00:41pm

Obscure longing of the day #23:

Why hasn't someone (preferably a good British filmmaker) put Anya Seton's Katherine on the silver screen?

/frustration out ... I will now shut up

565 Bloodnok  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:01:10pm

re: #436 KernelPanic

Hi. You are our second Kernel Panic (the other, Colonel Panik was banned earlier this year). I believe you'll work out better, though. Welcome.

566 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:01:11pm

re: #550 eschew_obfuscation

Isn't that the 192.168.n.n address though? ... assigned through DHCP by your router/modem?

Well if you are running a DHCP server in your router or modem then you have a public IP address from your provider which is shown when you hit the net and a private IP address which is usually 192.168.1.1 (for linksys). Addresses assigned by the DHCP server (router or modem) will be in the 192.168.x.x range but that is not shown when you hit an internet site, only your public address. Lame chart below...

INTERNET
%P%
PUBLIC IP ADDRESS (72.28.x.x or whatever)
%P%
FIRMWARE FIREWALL
%P%
LOCAL DHCP SERVER IP ADDRESS (192.168.1.1)
%P%
MY PC (192.168.1.100 or whatever)

567 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:01:16pm

Slow news day.

568 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:01:20pm

re: #559 albusteve

the Dow crashed nicely again
-186
ho hum

Nothing too unusual. After the general upswing in the past 5+/- days thats just normal 'profit taking"

569 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:01:53pm

I'm not naming any nicks, but a bunch of those newbies chose names that make me predict SDS (sudden derangement syndrome) in their future.

570 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:01:54pm

re: #567 Charles

Slow news day.

re: #567 Charles

Slow news day.

I hear that it's a slow news day, is that true?

571 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:02:28pm

Just turned on Glenn Beck -- he says the Obama-Hitler thing is planning to "murder" small businesses.

572 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:02:43pm

re: #558 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats a non routing network used as a default for local use

So does a server log report the external IP of the modem/router (which probably doesn't change much/at all)?

573 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:03:08pm

re: #567 Charles

Slow news day.

BREAKING NEWS: AMERICAN NEWS PRODUCTIVITY SLOWS! Developing. /

574 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:03:25pm

re: #570 sattv4u2

I hear that it's a slow news day, is that true?

I hadn't heard much about that, but then ... it's slow here.

575 Caboose  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:03:30pm

re: #482 Dianna

Thank you! I hadn't run across a couple of those.

My pleasure! I've been a HW fan since '74 but never have seen them live. What is really cool is that some of the classics that i listed have just been re-released on remastered discs with TONS of bonus material, so make sure you snag the newer Atomhenge/CherryRed versions. QUARK & P.X.R. 5 have been in heavy rotation for the last week or so.

And if you can find a copy of the tune, check out the title track to The Tangent's "Not as Good as the Book" release of a year ago. More of a "what in the hell happened to all the great future that the scfi novels promised us" song than anything else. Be sure and check out the rest of their stuff, especially if you love lots of keyboards and just fantastic prog-rock. The website is being revamped, check it out!

576 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:03:37pm

re: #572 eschew_obfuscation

So does a server log report the external IP of the modem/router (which probably doesn't change much/at all)?

Yes. Normally it only changes when a device with a new mac address is connected to to the modem/router. Some ISPs change it every go but it's not typical.

577 Pianobuff  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:03:42pm

re: #568 sattv4u2

Nothing too unusual. After the general upswing in the past 5+/- days thats just normal 'profit taking"

Unless you have the sweet chariot portfolio.

578 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:03:42pm

I wonder if any of the bloggers who eagerly participated in the Right Nation conference know who's behind "Americans for Prosperity," the conference sponsors?

579 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:04:09pm

re: #560 Dianna

Why is it I never need batteries for my keyboard until I'm alone in the office? I just bet that I get three calls while I'm at Walgreens.

re: #563 Walter L. Newton

Can you check for my prescription?

Oh ,, and Bryrers Ice Cream is on sale. Can you pick me up two tubs?

580 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:04:14pm

Growing threat to Hamas: Gazans who think it has sold out

"New groups of young people, they are fed up with what they see as Hamas' betrayal of the cause – of Islamic ideology and of jihad," says Mordechai Kedar, a lecturer in Arabic Studies at Israel's Bar-Ilan University and senior researcher at the Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies. "They view Hamas as having become too bureaucratic, too moderate, and they want action."

Hamas is a militant Islamist organization but also a nationalist group largely focused on the creation of a Palestinian state and opposition to Israel. The US calls it a terrorist organization and its rival, the secular Fatah party, says it wants to impose Islamic rule on the Palestinians. The group has been willing to compromise with secular Palestinians on some social issues and has shown little interest over the years in Al Qaeda's desire for a global jihad to spread Islamic law.

In recent months, it has also withheld rocket attacks against Israeli towns.

But it has not been shy about consolidating its position inside Gaza. The businesses allied with the movement have benefited from its time in power and its security services have taken an active interest in possible threats to its power – Islamist and otherwise.

581 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:04:15pm

re: #561 Walter L. Newton

Any wonder?

It's not Walter. The guy with the AR 15 was a black Obama supporter.

582 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:04:28pm

re: #538 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You can go off the system MAC address

Don't you need to use a network IOS language( Cisco) to discover MAC's off a switch that doesn't belong to your network? I mean for discovery? The router tables advertise on the Net unless you go private with a internal or proxie at 10.x.x.x ...

583 Randall Gross  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:04:39pm

re: #567 Charles

Slow news day.

Stands to reason - this is normally "silly season" but the health care debate carryover sort of ran over that. This is when you normally get UFO stories and "Boy Trapped in Freezer Eats Own Foot to Survive" stories.

584 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:04:52pm

re: #581 kansas

It's not Walter. The guy with the AR 15 was a black Obama supporter.

Really.

585 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:04:57pm

re: #566 Locker

Well if you are running a DHCP server in your router or modem then you have a public IP address from your provider which is shown when you hit the net and a private IP address which is usually 192.168.1.1 (for linksys). Addresses assigned by the DHCP server (router or modem) will be in the 192.168.x.x range but that is not shown when you hit an internet site, only your public address. Lame chart below...

INTERNET
%P%
PUBLIC IP ADDRESS (72.28.x.x or whatever)
%P%
FIRMWARE FIREWALL
%P%
LOCAL DHCP SERVER IP ADDRESS (192.168.1.1)
%P%
MY PC (192.168.1.100 or whatever)

Thanks! (and your chart isn't lame) ;-)

586 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:04:58pm

re: #578 Charles

I wonder if any of the bloggers who eagerly participated in the Right Nation conference know who's behind "Americans for Prosperity," the conference sponsors?

Probably not. No one bothers to look into associations except you.

587 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:05:58pm

re: #584 Walter L. Newton

Really.

Yeah. Play the vid.

588 Randall Gross  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:06:07pm

re: #578 Charles

I wonder if any of the bloggers who eagerly participated in the Right Nation conference know who's behind "Americans for Prosperity," the conference sponsors?


Who would that be?

589 eschew_obfuscation  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:06:15pm

re: #576 Locker

Yes. Normally it only changes when a device with a new mac address is connected to to the modem/router. Some ISPs change it every go but it's not typical.

Thanks! That clears up a lot (for me).

590 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:06:24pm

re: #583 Thanos

Stands to reason - this is normally "silly season" but the health care debate carryover sort of ran over that. This is when you normally get UFO stories and "Boy Trapped in Freezer Eats Own Foot to Survive" stories.

That's one way to bring a youngster to heel.

591 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:06:27pm

re: #580 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir) You raise the crazy kids with plastic guns and fake splodey dope vests and they grow up thinking life is all jihad and no paperwork. /

592 KernelPanic  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:06:28pm

re: #546 Last Mohican

Hey, um, maybe some of this stuff is better left unposted?

Charles would not have access to MAC addresses (unless he knows some hardcore javascript exploits!).

MAC addresses don't leak beyond the local subnet. Your ISP and the upstream DHCP server knows your MAC (or the MAC of the wireles router that you've attached to your broadband connection) but otherwise that data is not of a type that would show up in any sort of website log.

593 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:06:32pm

re: #580 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Growing threat to Hamas: Gazans who think it has sold out

So Palis who think Hamas isn't terrorist enough?
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594 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:06:40pm

re: #581 kansas

The guy with the AR 15 was a black Obama supporter.


Link?

595 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:06:49pm

Better check your credit card and bank statements...oops
US man 'stole 130m card numbers'

US prosecutors have charged a man with stealing data relating to 130 million credit and debit cards.

Officials say it is the biggest case of identity theft in American history.
They say Albert Gonzales, 28, and two unnamed Russian co-conspirators hacked into the payment systems of retailers, including the 7-Eleven chain.

Prosecutors say they aimed to sell the data on. If convicted, Mr Gonzales faces up to 20 years in jail for wire fraud and five years for conspiracy.

596 Russkilitlover  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:06:50pm

re: #535 Dianna

Yikes!

I've read about bottles like that, but...my goodness!

One of my neighbors is a complete wine snob. They came over for my birthday and brought a French red, circa 1960-something. Much ceremony in opening and serving. I took one swallow, gulped it down, nodded enthusiastically and said, "mmm, yummy!" When they weren't looking, I poured my glass full down the sink.

Blech! Tasted...dusty, if that makes sense.

597 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:07:00pm

re: #583 Thanos

Upding for the Airplane reference

598 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:07:02pm
Really.
Youtube Video
599 gregb  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:07:13pm

re: #47 Dianna

I like "Darn Me." That's cute.

"Sock the monkey".

Youtube Video
600 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:07:17pm

re: #594 Killgore Trout

Link?

Youtube Video
601 albusteve  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:08:05pm

then there's this news...

[Link: www.thesun.co.uk...]

602 Russkilitlover  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:08:10pm

re: #568 sattv4u2

Nothing too unusual. After the general upswing in the past 5+/- days thats just normal 'profit taking"

Not really, consumers ain't consuming and ain't planning on a lot of near term consuming. Result=Dow tank.

603 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:08:13pm

re: #595 Desert Dog

Better check your credit card and bank statements...oops
US man 'stole 130m card numbers'

US prosecutors have charged a man with stealing data relating to 130 million credit and debit cards.

Officials say it is the biggest case of identity theft in American history.
They say Albert Gonzales, 28, and two unnamed Russian co-conspirators hacked into the payment systems of retailers, including the 7-Eleven chain.

Prosecutors say they aimed to sell the data on. If convicted, Mr Gonzales faces up to 20 years in jail for wire fraud and five years for conspiracy.


I was kind of wondering what he got up to after leaving the Attorney General post.
/

604 Pianobuff  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:08:42pm

re: #596 Russkilitlover

One of my neighbors is a complete wine snob. They came over for my birthday and brought a French red, circa 1960-something. Much ceremony in opening and serving. I took one swallow, gulped it down, nodded enthusiastically and said, "mmm, yummy!" When they weren't looking, I poured my glass full down the sink.

Blech! Tasted...dusty, if that makes sense.

Do wineries issue press releases?

605 Caboose  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:08:57pm

re: #596 Russkilitlover

One of my neighbors is a complete wine snob. They came over for my birthday and brought a French red, circa 1960-something. Much ceremony in opening and serving. I took one swallow, gulped it down, nodded enthusiastically and said, "mmm, yummy!" When they weren't looking, I poured my glass full down the sink.

Blech! Tasted...dusty, if that makes sense.

I loves me my Two Buck Chuck, but I'm unassuming like that...

606 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:09:07pm

re: #595 Desert Dog I'm not worried. I keep a maxed out balance on all my credit cards to prevent thieves from using them.

607 avanti  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:09:16pm

re: #568 sattv4u2

Nothing too unusual. After the general upswing in the past 5+/- days thats just normal 'profit taking"

Yep, many investors were concerned about the market needing a correction, and when the Asian markets tanked, it was a good excuse. I expect a 5-7 % drop before it heads back up.

608 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:09:24pm
609 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:09:27pm

Just an effort to spice up the slow news day. Just for fun:

[Link: rawstory.com - 100 protestors heckle Huckabee in Isreal]

About 100 protesters heckled former US Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee on Monday as he attended a function to support Jewish settlements in mainly Arab east Jerusalem.

Two dozen right-wing Israelis staged a counter-protest, waving huge flags and cheering Huckabee, who has been touted as a possible Republican candidate in 2012.

610 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:09:53pm

re: #552 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

436

Thanks.

611 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:10:08pm

re: #587 kansas

Yeah. Play the vid.

Wait, I had to go around the mountain up here for a few minutes to find one of my dogs, I missed something.

I thought up thread that Killgore said there was some black conservative carrying a gun at a Obama rally.

Now you say he was an Obama supporter?

612 SteveC  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:10:11pm

Just got here! Any new recruits sent to the box yet?

613 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:10:16pm

re: #600 kansas

You have some serious comprehension difficulties. They said they didn't know which side he was on. Either way, it's a very troubling trend that people are bringing guns to presidential events.

614 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:10:17pm

re: #606 DaddyG

I'm not worried. I keep a maxed out balance on all my credit cards to prevent thieves from using them.

I am using that strategy too...if you stay broke, there's nothing left to steal

615 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:10:27pm

re: #602 Russkilitlover

Not really, consumers ain't consuming and ain't planning on a lot of near term consuming. Result=Dow tank.

Again, today was profit taking from the gains last week (DOW high over 9400) Unless something catastrpohic happens in the next several days, it will inch back up and over 9400 by the end of next week as todays rpofit takers put some of that $$ back in

616 Randall Gross  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:11:31pm

Nevermind:

Americans for Prosperity is led by Tim Phillips, who was a former partner with Ralph Reed's Century Strategies. That organization became well-known when it was revealed in a Senate investigation that convicted lobbyist Jack Abramoff was laundering money through Century Strategies and Americans for Tax Reform to oppose legislation that his Indian tribe clients wanted to defeat

617 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:11:49pm

re: #609 Locker

Just an effort to spice up the slow news day. Just for fun:

[Link: rawstory.com - 100 protestors heckle Huckabee in Isreal]

That is surreal...Anti and Pro Huckebee protester in Israel? Are the protesters there bored? They will join in with anyone that comes along.

618 SteveC  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:11:50pm

re: #613 Killgore Trout

You have some serious comprehension difficulties. They said they didn't know which side he was on. Either way, it's a very troubling trend that people are bringing guns to presidential events.

The local Legal Enforcement Organization tends to frown on such things.

619 theheat  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:12:08pm

re: #571 Charles

I think Beck should change careers and become the world's most animated, hysterical, bawling mime.

If he was a mime people could only speculate what all his crazy mime gestures meant, but his crazy talk would be silenced.

620 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:12:15pm

re: #596 Russkilitlover

One of my neighbors is a complete wine snob. They came over for my birthday and brought a French red, circa 1960-something. Much ceremony in opening and serving. I took one swallow, gulped it down, nodded enthusiastically and said, "mmm, yummy!" When they weren't looking, I poured my glass full down the sink.

Blech! Tasted...dusty, if that makes sense.

LOL I love it! Grew up around more wins snobs per square foot than any place on Earth... Napa Valley...I have a great wine snob routine I'll do at the occasion party...I know exactly how to twirl a wine glass between my thumb and forefinger and examine the Clarity...I have it down to an art...Some people hate me...I talk snob...It took years of practice..
*wink*

621 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:13:03pm

re: #567 Charles

Slow news day.

It is.

Did you get my contribution?

622 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:13:09pm

re: #605 Caboose

I loves me my Two Buck Chuck, but I'm unassuming like that...

I've got 1/2 case of Two Buck Chuck Merlot at home...the other half is a fuzzy memory

623 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:13:29pm

re: #588 Thanos

Who would that be?

The tobacco industry, for one.

624 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:13:31pm

Today's NYT contained a truly contemptible op-ed by one Richard Dooling, a minor novelist whom even a lit-freak like me had never heard of before. It was a slash-job on old people. As in, after 85 they should be cut off from Medicare. Seriously.

This guy ought to be run out of whatever town he lives in by a mob of oldsters on mobility scooters (which he doesn't think they need).

Below my letter to the editor, for the record, in case it gets spiked.

Congratulations on the appearance of what must be a new low in the public discourse on aging ("Health Care's Generation Gap", August 17).

Richard Dooling takes us on a suggestive ride, starting with memories of money wasted on "patients who would never regain consciousness [...]." Then we're told that "patients [...] gave the hospitals liens on their homes to pay for this care." Impressive, those unconscious patients! But never mind, maybe it was their families who signed the papers. How dare they spend their money that way.

Next we get horror visions of "titanium-knee [sic] replacements" for octo- and nonagenarians, and old folks getting prescriptions for "scooters and end-of-life" care. I see it all the time: comatose useless breathers with needlessly large carbon footprints whizzing around my neighborhood or whooping it up on their unnecessary new joints in the local dives.

I didn't believe for one moment that the voluntary end-of-life counseling envisioned in the health-care package would end in Sarah Palin-around-with-scaremongers-esque "death panels", but that's because I'm relatively confident that Mr Dooling, novelist, would not be allowed anywhere near them. I hope. Because I expect his advice to my octogenarian friend now recovering from a pelvis fracture, but otherwise fine, would be to stop acting so selfish and quit expelling CO2. "And your little dog, too."

Perhaps Dooling would like to set us all an example by voluntarily retiring from the carbon-based community when he reaches the age when he'll start extracting money from the Medicare system. That will be in about ten years. As his slightly younger contemporary, I'll be watching.

625 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:13:39pm

re: #611 Walter L. Newton

Wait, I had to go around the mountain up here for a few minutes to find one of my dogs, I missed something.

I thought up thread that Killgore said there was some black conservative carrying a gun at a Obama rally.

Now you say he was an Obama supporter?

Funny how they get it all confused once they figured out their video didn't match their meme. Since Obama has 96% support of blacks I'm going with Obama supporter.

626 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:13:56pm

re: #621 Dianna

It is.

Did you get my contribution?

Yep, sent you a thank you note!

627 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:14:17pm

re: #617 Desert Dog

That is surreal...Anti and Pro Huckebee protester in Israel? Are the protesters there bored? They will join in with anyone that comes along.

Laugh that's funny I was thinking the same thing as in "how did they find out about this and organize"? Was trying to imagine little Pro and Anti Huckabee blogs in Israel. Crazy stuff.

628 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:14:29pm

re: #613 Killgore Trout

You have some serious comprehension difficulties. They said they didn't know which side he was on. Either way, it's a very troubling trend that people are bringing guns to presidential events.

Isn't it funny when it's pretty clear they get all cornfused.

629 midwestgak  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:14:41pm

re: #567 Charles

Slow news day.

Any wonder? The City of Chicago is closed./

630 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:14:51pm

re: #578 Charles

I wonder if any of the bloggers who eagerly participated in the Right Nation conference know who's behind "Americans for Prosperity," the conference sponsors?

Anything to do with the ripoff artists behind the "prosperity gospel" industry?

631 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:15:05pm

re: #578 Charles

I wonder if any of the bloggers who eagerly participated in the Right Nation conference know who's behind "Americans for Prosperity," the conference sponsors?

Probably not. A lot of folks don't check anything, if the blurb looks good.

632 SteveC  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:15:24pm

re: #620 HoosierHoops

Some people hate me...I talk snob...It took years of practice..
*wink*

When you insult them, the Chosen Ones just say it is due to your lack of class and upbringing and see it as yet another sign of how some people just don't need to be associated with.

But when you insult them in their own language... !

633 Randall Gross  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:15:49pm

re: #623 Charles

The tobacco industry, for one.

Yep, see my note above

AFP Scaremongering (Warning: Hard Left SEIU youtube site)

Youtube Video
634 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:15:57pm

re: #624 Cato the Elder

Today's NYT contained a truly contemptible op-ed by one Richard Dooling, a minor novelist whom even a lit-freak like me had never heard of before. It was a slash-job on old people. As in, after 85 they should be cut off from Medicare. Seriously.

This guy ought to be run out of whatever town he lives in by a mob of oldsters on mobility scooters (which he doesn't think they need).

Below my letter to the editor, for the record, in case it gets spiked.

I saw a Sarah ref in there!

Otherwise, your rapier wit is as sharp as a razor as usual

635 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:16:55pm

re: #627 Locker

Laugh that's funny I was thinking the same thing as in "how did they find out about this and organize"? Was trying to imagine little Pro and Anti Huckabee blogs in Israel. Crazy stuff.

I would guess alcohol and or drugs would be involved. Huckebee could probably not muster any Pro (or Anti) Huckebee protesters here...

636 SteveC  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:17:54pm

re: #624 Cato the Elder

This guy ought to be run out of whatever town he lives in by a mob of oldsters on mobility scooters (which he doesn't think they need).

"In tonight's lead story, a noted author was attacked by the Hovaround Precision Driving Team..."

637 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:18:02pm

re: #623 Charles

The tobacco industry, for one.

According to one of my esteemed fellow lizards with whom I broke a lance last night, tobacco is legal (duh!) and the fine people who promote it have no reason to sleep badly at night. He failed to convince me.

So what's your beef?

638 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:18:59pm

re: #624 Cato the Elder

Today's NYT contained a truly contemptible op-ed by one Richard Dooling, a minor novelist whom even a lit-freak like me had never heard of before. It was a slash-job on old people. As in, after 85 they should be cut off from Medicare. Seriously.

This guy ought to be run out of whatever town he lives in by a mob of oldsters on mobility scooters (which he doesn't think they need).

Below my letter to the editor, for the record, in case it gets spiked.

Cato

You are a prime example of why the progressives are calling us seething and raging lunatics. Just because a editorial appears in the NYT about shutting old people out of Medicare after a certain age, it doesn't mean that you go flouncing off and setting up a straw man about this.

It's very possible that this gentleman has a good point, or at least a point that will get national and international coverage, a few invites to all the talking head shows, and at least 3 book deals and a position on the health care czar's death panel.

But really, no matter what you think of this nice persons editorial, it's always possible that next week he will remove the language about removing seniors over 85 from medicare and change that to a reasonable age of, let's say, 86.

In the least this is reactionary on your part, at the most, probably racist in whole cloth.

Repent.
///

639 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:19:03pm
640 Randall Gross  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:19:23pm

re: #637 Cato the Elder

According to one of my esteemed fellow lizards with whom I broke a lance last night, tobacco is legal (duh!) and the fine people who promote it have no reason to sleep badly at night. He failed to convince me.

So what's your beef?

It's the same people behind the climate denialist sites and groups. They are posing as "Fiscons" but their background and funders are all "SoCons"

641 SteveC  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:19:56pm

re: #637 Cato the Elder

According to one of my esteemed fellow lizards with whom I broke a lance last night...

Jousting party? Day-um, where am I when all the fun stuff happens?

642 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:20:03pm

re: #637 Cato the Elder

According to one of my esteemed fellow lizards with whom I broke a lance last night, tobacco is legal (duh!) and the fine people who promote it have no reason to sleep badly at night. He failed to convince me.
So what's your beef?

Well ,, as long as THATS the standard, I say we lay seige to Raliegh and Winston/ Salem North Carolina as well as large portions of Virginia!

643 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:20:18pm

re: #632 SteveC

When you insult them, the Chosen Ones just say it is due to your lack of class and upbringing and see it as yet another sign of how some people just don't need to be associated with.

But when you insult them in their own language... !

I have a million stories about growing up in the middle of Wine Country..
Some are funny..Some piss you off...Some bring a tear to your eye...
Napa Valley is a special place...Which unfortunately has too many snobs...
But there is magic there...

644 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:20:51pm

re: #598 kansas

The word "gentleman" keeps being used. I think it's time for a Princess Bride reference.

645 itellu3times  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:21:23pm

blog onto others, as you would have them blog onto you

646 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:21:25pm

re: #626 Charles

Yep, sent you a thank you note!

Thanks! I get worried when I'm trying to give people money.

647 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:21:36pm

re: #638 Walter L. Newton

Cato

You are a prime example of why the progressives are calling us seething and raging lunatics. Just because a editorial appears in the NYT about shutting old people out of Medicare after a certain age, it doesn't mean that you go flouncing off and setting up a straw man about this.

It's very possible that this gentleman has a good point, or at least a point that will get national and international coverage, a few invites to all the talking head shows, and at least 3 book deals and a position on the health care czar's death panel.

But really, no matter what you think of this nice persons editorial, it's always possible that next week he will remove the language about removing seniors over 85 from medicare and change that to a reasonable age of, let's say, 86.

In the least this is reactionary on your part, at the most, probably racist in whole cloth.

Repent.
///

Wait I thought Cato was a progressive. Man... he's confusing!

648 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:21:52pm

So anybody care? Is the black guy with the AR 15 really anti Obama? I see what Sanchez and Henry say just to be clear, we can't hear what he says...convenient.

Youtube Video
649 theheat  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:22:09pm

re: #640 Thanos

A dead giveaway is anything that uses Heartland in its title. Anything "heartland" generally attracts socons. I wouldn't be surprised if they haven't trademarked it.

And with socons, you have the creationists, theocrats, climate change deniers, etc. etc. en force.

650 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:22:16pm

re: #644 Dianna

The word "gentleman" keeps being used. I think it's time for a Princess Bride reference.

As you wish.

651 SteveC  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:22:33pm

re: #642 sattv4u2

Well ,, as long as THATS the standard, I say we lay seige to Raliegh and Winston/ Salem North Carolina as well as large portions of Virginia!

Careful! Don't damage Duke Medical over in Durham. They do a lot of good stuff over there!

652 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:22:35pm

re: #635 Desert Dog

I would guess alcohol and or drugs would be involved. Huckebee could probably not muster any Pro (or Anti) Huckebee protesters here...

Hey I like that. Maybe it's like an Israeli date night thing. Hey baby... wanna smoke a bowl, drink some Sangria and go to the Huckabee protest?

653 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:23:32pm

re: #567 Charles

Slow news day.

Speaking of Shrieking Harpies (I know that was yesterday...) I just got the latest on the Disc Brake Silencer, which I'm pretty sure your Schwinn could still benefit from. It is not yet available in North America. They expect it to be ready in about three weeks. In the bike business, "we expect it in about three weeks" means "we have utterly no idea when it will arrive." In fact, they told me the same thing two months ago, including the "we just need to get the labels printed" part. I'll keep you posted, at least until my small business is murdered.

654 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:24:01pm

Hi there...

655 SteveC  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:24:23pm

re: #652 Locker

Hey I like that. Maybe it's like an Israeli date night thing. Hey baby... wanna smoke a bowl, drink some Sangria and go to the Huckabee protest?

Which side you wanna be, honey? I'll Rock, Scissors, and Paper you for it!

656 Randall Gross  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:24:45pm

re: #649 theheat

A dead giveaway is anything that uses Heartland in its title. Anything "heartland" generally attracts socons. I wouldn't be surprised if they haven't trademarked it.

And with socons, you have the creationists, theocrats, climate change deniers, etc. etc. en force.

The original org was Citizens for a Sound Economy which they split off from, and to their credit they were instrumental in defeating the Clinton Energy Tax, so I wager there are some Hayek type Free Marketeers involved regardless of funding source. For now I'm going to call them grey until I see some more of their actions. The video I posted above doesn't look encouraging.

657 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:25:52pm

re: #644 Dianna

The word "gentleman" keeps being used. I think it's time for a Princess Bride reference.

I believe the "misuse" (if that's what it is) of that word started in courtrooms, when cops would consistently use it to refer to the creeps whose arrests they had to testify about. Not only did it neatly avoid any objections from defense counsel over possible pejoratives, but it pegged the irony meter at the same time.

Now it's common parlance.

658 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:26:48pm

re: #639 taxfreekiller

see the bicycle story...

Grrr.

Oh, that's awful.

659 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:27:10pm

re: #630 Cato the Elder

Anything to do with the ripoff artists behind the "prosperity gospel" industry?

It's possible, but I can't imagine they get a lot out of Oral Roberts:

Americans for Prosperity (AFP) and Americans for Prosperity Foundation (AFP Foundation) are committed to educating citizens about economic policy and mobilizing those citizens as advocates in the public policy process. AFP is an organization of grassroots leaders who engage citizens in the name of limited government and free markets on the local, state and federal levels. The grassroots members of AFP advocate for public policies that champion the principles of entrepreneurship and fiscal and regulatory restraint.

660 Charles Johnson  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:27:17pm

re: #653 wrenchwench

Speaking of Shrieking Harpies (I know that was yesterday...) I just got the latest on the Disc Brake Silencer, which I'm pretty sure your Schwinn could still benefit from. It is not yet available in North America. They expect it to be ready in about three weeks. In the bike business, "we expect it in about three weeks" means "we have utterly no idea when it will arrive." In fact, they told me the same thing two months ago, including the "we just need to get the labels printed" part. I'll keep you posted, at least until my small business is murdered.

Cool, let me know. I do still have that disc brake squealing problem; it's just the beater bike, but if I can fix it without any major expense I'd love to.

661 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:27:37pm

re: #657 Cato the Elder

I believe the "misuse" (if that's what it is) of that word started in courtrooms, when cops would consistently use it to refer to the creeps whose arrests they had to testify about. Not only did it neatly avoid any objections from defense counsel over possible pejoratives, but it pegged the irony meter at the same time.

Now it's common parlance.

And if the "gentelman" even understands it to be meant as ironic, it only serves to piss him off even MORE!

662 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:27:43pm

re: #656 Thanos

The original org was Citizens for a Sound Economy which they split off from, and to their credit they were instrumental in defeating the Clinton Energy Tax, so I wager there are some Hayek type Free Marketeers involved regardless of funding source. For now I'm going to call them grey until I see some more of their actions. The video I posted above doesn't look encouraging.

Grey? They stand between the candle and the star?

663 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:27:53pm

re: #652 Locker

Hey I like that. Maybe it's like an Israeli date night thing. Hey baby... wanna smoke a bowl, drink some Sangria and go to the Huckabee protest?

Or, perhaps an enterprising young Israeli has opened up a service in Tel Aviv: "Protesters R Us" and he rents them out to visiting washed up loser US Presidential Candidates?

664 avanti  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:28:10pm

re: #648 kansas

So anybody care? Is the black guy with the AR 15 really anti Obama? I see what Sanchez and Henry say just to be clear, we can't hear what he says...convenient.

[Video]

He was the guy that was quoted as saying he was carrying "“Because I can do it,” he said when asked why he was armed. “In Arizona, I still have some freedoms ". I don't know who he supports, but apparently a big second amendment guy.

665 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:29:28pm

re: #664 avanti

He was the guy that was quoted as saying he was carrying "“Because I can do it,” he said when asked why he was armed. “In Arizona, I still have some freedoms ". I don't know who he supports, but apparently a big second amendment guy.

He does not sound like a typical Obamaton.

666 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:29:54pm

re: #662 Kosh's Shadow

Grey? They stand between the candle and the star?

Lets just approach with our gun ports open as a sign of respect. Whats the worst that could happen?

667 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:30:17pm

re: #663 Desert Dog

Or, perhaps an enterprising young Israeli has opened up a service in Tel Aviv: "Protesters R Us" and he rents them out to visiting washed up loser US Presidential Candidates?

I wonder if that's Israeli chapter of the corp which rented out the Black Guy with a Rifle to the conservatives. No idea where we are on that story, just made me laugh thinking of the exchange rate. One Conservative Black Dude with a Rifle is worth Fifteen Anti-Huckabee protesters in Israel.

668 Onslow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:31:10pm

British matador Frank Evans steps back into the ring at 67

669 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:31:18pm

re: #663 Desert Dog

Or, perhaps an enterprising young Israeli has opened up a service in Tel Aviv: "Protesters R Us" and he rents them out to visiting washed up loser US Presidential Candidates?

Israelis do not spit on their supporters.

670 Desert Dog  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:32:03pm

re: #669 Spare O'Lake

Israelis do not spit on their supporters.

even if the price is right?

671 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:32:35pm

re: #668 Onslow

British matador Frank Evans steps back into the ring at 67

"What could possibly go wrong?"

672 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:33:07pm

re: #670 Desert Dog

even if the price is right?

Dog, seriously... you are going to get me in trouble again. Not only did that make me spit a bit of water but my stupid desk fan blew it right back in my face.

673 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:33:08pm

re: #671 Dianna

"What could possibly go wrong?"

Sounds like a load of bull to me

674 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:33:38pm

re: #668 Onslow

British matador Frank Evans steps back into the ring at 67

What could possibly go wrong?

675 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:34:18pm

re: #668 Onslow

British matador Frank Evans steps back into the ring at 67

From your link:

“The bull doesn’t ask to see my birth certificate,” he said.

Heh.

The only thing crazier than trying to ride them is standing in front and taunting them.

676 avanti  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:34:24pm

re: #665 Desert Dog

He does not sound like a typical Obamaton.

If the press is correct "about a dozen" were armed. A waste of police and secret service resources.

Guns.

677 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:34:30pm

re: #673 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sounds like a load of bull to me

I wonder if he will get the point.

678 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:34:39pm

re: #673 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sounds like a load of bull to me

You'tre just horning in on this thread

679 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:34:42pm

re: #667 Locker

I wonder if that's Israeli chapter of the corp which rented out the Black Guy with a Rifle to the conservatives. No idea where we are on that story, just made me laugh thinking of the exchange rate. One Conservative Black Dude with a Rifle is worth Fifteen Anti-Huckabee protesters in Israel.

Did I get this story wrong...Somebody thinks it's their right as an American to walk around with a gun when our President is in town...
We as a Country have suffered enough with guns being around our President.. Check your gun and sanity at the door...

680 Randall Gross  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:34:58pm

re: #662 Kosh's Shadow

Grey? They stand between the candle and the star?

I'm not catching the reference there Kosh, and I always hate that... please 'splain.

681 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:35:11pm

re: #670 Desert Dog

even if the price is right?

Obama would love to make them an offer they can't refuse.

682 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:35:16pm

re: #596 Russkilitlover

One of my neighbors is a complete wine snob. They came over for my birthday and brought a French red, circa 1960-something. Much ceremony in opening and serving. I took one swallow, gulped it down, nodded enthusiastically and said, "mmm, yummy!" When they weren't looking, I poured my glass full down the sink.

Blech! Tasted...dusty, if that makes sense.

The dusty taste is real.

683 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:35:25pm

re: #677 ArchangelMichael

I wonder if he will get the point.

Does this have anything to do with Al Gore?

684 Onslow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:35:30pm

re: #671 Dianna


A knee injury picked up in a game of rugby four years ago forced him to hang up his cape; his comeback coincides with the publication of his autobiography, The Last British Matador, this month.

He is a hard case.

685 turn  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:35:31pm

re: #668 Onslow

British matador Frank Evans steps back into the ring at 67

I wonder what he fears more, climate change or getting gored.
/
Hey I missed this open registration thread today. Welcome all new lizards! Later all, time to go walk the lab along the American.

686 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:35:34pm

re: #675 wrenchwench

I'm surprised the bull isn't a nirther.

/

687 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:35:38pm

re: #679 HoosierHoops

Did I get this story wrong...Somebody thinks it's their right as an American to walk around with a gun when our President is in town...
We as a Country have suffered enough with guns being around our President.. Check your gun and sanity at the door...

Oh I meant if it was really a conservative or a liberal plant or whatever. I wasn't up on the facts just using the image cause it made me laugh. Sorry sir.

688 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:35:53pm

re: #680 Thanos

I'm not catching the reference there Kosh, and I always hate that... please 'splain.

Babylon 5, its kind of his thing

689 SteveC  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:36:11pm

New Joke, hot off the email:

The Coach of the New Orleans Saints was talking to his assistants. "Boys, we could go all the way this year if we had a decent quarterback. We've got everything else, just not a thrower. Anyone got any ideas?"

The TV was on CNN as they spoke and the coach noticed new film from Afghanistan. This Afgani ran through machine gun fire and stopped long enough to hurl a hand grenade through a third story window. Then there were three Marines and this Afgani in a foxhole with a lot of Taliban attacking, the Marines kept handing him hand grenades and he's stand up and throw them, kept the Taliban on the run.

"THat's the guy we need!" The coach exclaims. He hires a plane, flies to Afghanistan, and signs the guy! And as predicted, he leads them to the Superbowl!

The Afgani calls home. "Mom! We won the Super Bowl!"

"Who cares, Abdul? Listen, while you have been off winning your football game your sister has been shot and both of your brothers have been beaten. Come home right now!"

"But Mom...!"

"I said COME HOME! And if you aren't here soon I'll never forgive you for making us move to New Orleans!"

690 Cato the Elder  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:36:49pm

If I were Solomon, I would have sentenced that gentleman, oh, what's his name - ah yes, Vick - to a round in the arena as a toreador.

It's one thing to make animals fight for you. It's another to put your own ass on the line, as in "you might get your loins gored in one side and out the other by a yard-long horn".

I expect Vick's tears would be sincere after that.

691 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:38:14pm

re: #679 HoosierHoops

Did I get this story wrong...Somebody thinks it's their right as an American to walk around with a gun when our President is in town...
We as a Country have suffered enough with guns being around our President.. Check your gun and pick up your sanity at the door...

FTFY.

692 opnion  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:38:32pm

re: #668 Onslow

British matador Frank Evans steps back into the ring at 67

67 years old, rickety knees & a bad heart, sounds like a job for El Ingles.
If El Toro fiinds out that this gut used to be a butcher there will be some serious payback.

693 Randall Gross  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:38:51pm

re: #688 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Babylon 5, its kind of his thing

Ok, cool, I'm saving that series for some period of my life when I'm really bored. Same reason I haven't ever read of the books by the guy who wrote the Bourne series.

694 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:39:10pm

re: #671 Dianna

"What could possibly go wrong?"

Youtube Video

I'm voting for the bull. Is that so wrong?

695 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:39:29pm

re: #648 kansas

Dude, I've been avoiding responding to you because you're labeling him an Obama supporter solely on the color of his skin. I think I understand what the racial hubbub was about upthread now.

696 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:39:38pm

re: #684 Onslow

A knee injury picked up in a game of rugby four years ago forced him to hang up his cape; his comeback coincides with the publication of his autobiography, The Last British Matador, this month.

He is a hard case.

Yeah. After a bunch of guys on horses have stuck spears into the bull, he teases it for a while then sticks a sword into it.

I've always been on the bull's side.

697 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:39:42pm

Probably Bad News, because journalism isn't dying fast enough

Its like the failblog of journalism, where we get news stories like:
Tight End returns after Colon Surgery
Ex-Minister breaks silence, says nothing.

And my personal favorite, the cardboard cut out of the bear

698 SteveC  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:39:57pm

re: #690 Cato the Elder

If I were Solomon, I would have sentenced that gentleman, oh, what's his name - ah yes, Vick - to a round in the arena as a toreador.

It's one thing to make animals fight for you. It's another to put your own ass on the line, as in "you might get your loins gored in one side and out the other by a yard-long horn".

I expect Vick's tears would be sincere after that.

I always heard that young man could run. Let's put two bulls in the ring and see if that is true.

699 Randall Gross  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:40:24pm

re: #695 Killgore Trout

Dude, I've been avoiding responding to you because you're labeling him an Obama supporter solely on the color of his skin. I think I understand what the racial hubbub was about upthread now.

He's also standing in the middle of a bunch of people chanting "Yes we can" but that's not a real determinant either.

700 yochanan  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:40:33pm

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

I would say the zero's demand that jews not build in parts of Jerusalem is way past borderline anti semitic.

701 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:40:53pm

re: #680 Thanos

I'm not catching the reference there Kosh, and I always hate that... please 'splain.

The Gray Council. It's their invocation at their meetings.

702 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:41:36pm

re: #664 avanti

He was the guy that was quoted as saying he was carrying "“Because I can do it,” he said when asked why he was armed. “In Arizona, I still have some freedoms ". I don't know who he supports, but apparently a big second amendment guy.

I think the guy interviewing him had a pistol. I assumed it was an NRA or militia thing. So far the cases of guns at these events have been right wingers. If he is an Obama supporter it doesn't make things any better. The last thing we need is an arms race.

703 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:41:42pm

re: #687 Locker

Oh I meant if it was really a conservative or a liberal plant or whatever. I wasn't up on the facts just using the image cause it made me laugh. Sorry sir.

*wink*
I thought I read there were a few people that carried weapons with permit during a president visit...I could be wrong...and often are...But nobody gets to carry a gun around the POTUS...I don't give a heck what you think your rights are..I think we have the right to lock your dumb ass up...

704 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:42:04pm

re: #694 kansas

Youtube Video

I'm voting for the bull. Is that so wrong?

If the bull wins, do they donate the matador's flesh to a local cattle orphanage?

705 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:42:34pm

re: #689 SteveC

I heard the same joke years ago, but the fellow was Bosnian, and his mom would never forgive him for moving the family to Oakland.

706 Russkilitlover  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:42:34pm

re: #701 Dianna

The Gray Council. It's their invocation at their meetings.

Get up a Grey Goose council and I'm so there!

707 opnion  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:42:54pm

re: #699 Thanos

He's also standing in the middle of a bunch of people chanting "Yes we can" but that's not a real determinant either.

Ok, that's suspicious, but I just need one more thing.

708 Last Mohican  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:43:07pm

re: #689 SteveC

I'm not proud of this, but I chuckled.

709 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:43:16pm

re: #620 HoosierHoops

LOL I love it! Grew up around more wins snobs per square foot than any place on Earth... Napa Valley...I have a great wine snob routine I'll do at the occasion party...I know exactly how to twirl a wine glass between my thumb and forefinger and examine the Clarity...I have it down to an art...Some people hate me...I talk snob...It took years of practice..
*wink*

"Pinto Noir and Gamey Bojulius"

710 DaddyG  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:43:24pm

re: #660 Charles

Cool, let me know. I do still have that disc brake squealing problem; it's just the beater bike, but if I can fix it without any major expense I'd love to.

Pull the squirrel out of the spokes. That's always the first fix.

711 avanti  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:43:41pm

re: #699 Thanos

He's also standing in the middle of a bunch of people chanting "Yes we can" but that's not a real determinant either.

The other armed guy that was anti Obama wandered into the Obama crowd, not a subtle move IMHO.

712 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:43:51pm

re: #695 Killgore Trout

Dude, I've been avoiding responding to you because you're labeling him an Obama supporter solely on the color of his skin. I think I understand what the racial hubbub was about upthread now.

Perhaps. But that wouldn't be out of the ordinary considering the support Obama has with blacks would it? That and that he was in the Obama section as you can see by the signs. It seemed to me the whole report was to impugn conservatives for being idiots, and right there we have one who is not conservative. Combine that with how the story did not match at all with the video and I think CNN had a mess up.

713 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:43:54pm

re: #699 Thanos

He's also standing in the middle of a bunch of people chanting "Yes we can" but that's not a real determinant either.


I thought about that too but in the interview they discuss another guy with an AR-15 screaming about socialism amidst Obama supporters. What are the chances that two AR15's at the same rally, one on each side? It's a curious story..

714 SteveC  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:43:54pm

re: #705 Dianna

I heard the same joke years ago, but the fellow was Bosnian, and his mom would never forgive him for moving the family to Oakland.

*Turns joke over*

Label says it is fresh, I may I have a counterfeit joke here!

715 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:44:01pm

re: #701 Dianna

The Gray Council. It's their invocation at their meetings.

Vir Cotto still had the best moment in the series IMO

716 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:44:08pm

re: #695 Killgore Trout

Um, he was standing in a crowd full of folks waving "Reform Now!" signs. Those are Obama supporters, generally, aren't they?

717 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:44:30pm

re: #699 Thanos

He's also standing in the middle of a bunch of people chanting "Yes we can" but that's not a real determinant either.

Holding that gun, he can stand wherever he damn well pleases!!

TOTALLY ///

718 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:44:38pm

re: #712 kansas

I really don't feel comfortable discussing this with you.

719 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:44:40pm

re: #695 Killgore Trout

Dude, I've been avoiding responding to you because you're labeling him an Obama supporter solely on the color of his skin. I think I understand what the racial hubbub was about upthread now.

I think it was you who use the first race identifier when you said the "fat white guy." Sort of a double descriptive term, race and size.

720 Last Mohican  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:44:49pm

re: #702 Killgore Trout

I think the guy interviewing him had a pistol. I assumed it was an NRA or militia thing. So far the cases of guns at these events have been right wingers. If he is an Obama supporter it doesn't make things any better. The last thing we need is an arms race.

Good point. If anti-Obama protesters keep showing up with guns, then at some point the pro-Obama demonstrators are going to feel threatened, and they're going to start bringing guns.

721 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:44:56pm

re: #700 yochanan

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

I would say the zero's demand that jews not build in parts of Jerusalem is way past borderline anti semitic.

I don't understand how "don't build here" is anti-semitic? I'm not a person of the Jewish faith and am in no position to judge. Just confused and request some clarification.

722 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:44:58pm

re: #608 taxfreekiller

[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]

Thanks goodness he didn't have a garage to park in, like the lady over in Fort Worth.

723 ArchangelMichael  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:45:11pm

re: #697 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Probably Bad News, because journalism isn't dying fast enough

Its like the failblog of journalism, where we get news stories like:
Tight End returns after Colon Surgery
Ex-Minister breaks silence, says nothing.

And my personal favorite, the cardboard cut out of the bear

Best one I've seen so far: "Statistics show that teen pregnancy drops off significantly after age 25"

I do know some 30-something year old teenagers, but I don't think that's what they mean.

724 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:45:27pm

re: #716 Dianna

See #713

It could go either way.

725 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:45:41pm

re: #718 Killgore Trout

I really don't feel comfortable discussing this with you.


OK.

726 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:45:43pm

re: #703 HoosierHoops

*wink*
I thought I read there were a few people that carried weapons with permit during a president visit...I could be wrong...and often are...But nobody gets to carry a gun around the POTUS...I don't give a heck what you think your rights are..I think we have the right to lock your dumb ass up...

Can't say I disagree with this one. Safety first.

727 Randall Gross  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:45:44pm

re: #713 Killgore Trout

I thought about that too but in the interview they discuss another guy with an AR-15 screaming about socialism amidst Obama supporters. What are the chances that two AR15's at the same rally, one on each side? It's a curious story..

I wouldn't put it past either side to be staging false flag agitprop. Right now I'll file it until more evidence comes forth one way or the other.

728 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:45:52pm

re: #702 Killgore Trout

The NRA isn't advocating that people bring firearms to political events.

729 opnion  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:45:58pm

re: #711 avanti

The other armed guy that was anti Obama wandered into the Obama crowd, not a subtle move IMHO.

Come on Avanti, Obama people are peaceful. Just look at the SEIU peacekeepers at the Town Halls. They only used gentle persuasion & cookies.

730 HoosierHoops  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:46:06pm

re: #709 debutaunt

"Pinto Noir and Gamey Bojulius"

I hate so many tanins in my Merlot? don't you?
My God how does the other side live?
*wink*

731 Coracle  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:46:12pm

re: #721 Locker

I don't understand how "don't build here" is anti-semitic? I'm not a person of the Jewish faith and am in no position to judge. Just confused and request some clarification.

I don't think it is.

732 yochanan  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:46:19pm

re: #709 debutaunt

at a wine/liberal snobs gathering like we have in evanston ill. i ask for bud light just to get a reaction.

besides the wine snob wine isn't kosher.

733 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:46:28pm

re: #714 SteveC

*Turns joke over*

Label says it is fresh, I may I have a counterfeit joke here!

It think jokes just get freshened up periodically.

734 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:46:41pm

re: #720 Last Mohican

Yeah, this could really raise tensions and greatly increase the possibility of violence.

735 avanti  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:46:48pm

re: #713 Killgore Trout

I thought about that too but in the interview they discuss another guy with an AR-15 screaming about socialism amidst Obama supporters. What are the chances that two AR15's at the same rally, one on each side? It's a curious story..

The reporter said the other guy with the AR 15 was not the black guy in the video, so there were at least two.

736 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:47:00pm

re: #687 Locker

Oh I meant if it was really a conservative or a liberal plant or whatever. I wasn't up on the facts just using the image cause it made me laugh. Sorry sir.

A liberal plant - you mean a pansy?

737 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:47:07pm

re: #728 Dianna

The NRA isn't advocating that people bring firearms to political events.

AND I have as yet to see "militias" getting into the Health Care fuss

738 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:47:16pm

re: #713 Killgore Trout

I thought about that too but in the interview they discuss another guy with an AR-15 screaming about socialism amidst Obama supporters. What are the chances that two AR15's at the same rally, one on each side? It's a curious story..

I remember, but I thought that was a fat white guy?

We need a program! We can't tell the players without one!

739 yochanan  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:48:07pm

re: #721 Locker

judenfrei no jews alowed = anti semitism

and if jews aren't allowed in Jerusalem they aren't allowed anywere.

740 SteveC  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:48:23pm

re: #738 Dianna

I remember, but I thought that was a fat white guy?

We need a program! We can't tell the players without one!

Who's on First?

741 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:48:49pm

re: #711 avanti

The other armed guy that was anti Obama wandered into the Obama crowd, not a subtle move IMHO.

"The other armed guy"?!

742 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:48:59pm

re: #736 Spare O'Lake

A liberal plant - you mean a pansy?

Marijuana.

743 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:49:07pm

re: #680 Thanos

I'm not catching the reference there Kosh, and I always hate that... please 'splain.

It is a Babylon 5 reference to the Minbari Grey Council

744 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:49:18pm

re: #735 avanti

The reporter said the other guy with the AR 15 was not the black guy in the video, so there were at least two.

If they were both brought independently it would be one hell of a coincidence. I lived in Phoenix for almost 5 years. I saw a lot of pistols and a shotgun or two. No AR 15's.

745 avanti  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:49:22pm

re: #729 opnion

Come on Avanti, Obama people are peaceful. Just look at the SEIU peacekeepers at the Town Halls. They only used gentle persuasion & cookies.

So armed conservatives should walk over to the pro Obama crowds, just in case they are "union thugs".

746 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:49:23pm

re: #740 SteveC

Who's on First?

What's on second!

But I don't Care plays right field? Or does he pitch?

747 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:49:45pm

re: #702 Killgore Trout

I think the guy interviewing him had a pistol. I assumed it was an NRA or militia thing. So far the cases of guns at these events have been right wingers. If he is an Obama supporter it doesn't make things any better. The last thing we need is an arms race.

A meeting of the mines?

748 opnion  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:49:55pm

re: #723 ArchangelMichael

Best one I've seen so far: "Statistics show that teen pregnancy drops off significantly after age 25"

I do know some 30-something year old teenagers, but I don't think that's what they mean.

Interesting stat & the odds are that if your parents never had chidren , you wont either.

749 avanti  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:50:15pm

re: #741 Dianna

"The other armed guy"?!

There were about a dozen according to the local press.

750 SteveC  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:51:01pm

re: #746 Dianna

What's on second!

But I don't Care plays right field? Or does he pitch?

He Don't Care! He never even came out to the ballpark!

751 reine.de.tout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:51:05pm

re: #636 SteveC

"In tonight's lead story, a noted author was attacked by the Hovaround Precision Driving Team..."

Might they look something like this?

Youtube Video
752 Killgore Trout  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:51:31pm

re: #738 Dianna

I remember, but I thought that was a fat white guy?

We need a program! We can't tell the players without one!

Fat White Guy had a pistol. I think he's the guy that was interviewing Skinny Black Guy with an AR15. There was another guy who we haven't seen yet (Mystery Guy) who had an AR 15 and was shouting anti-Obama slogans and heathcare reform supporters.

753 Ben Hur  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:51:58pm

re: #716 Dianna

Um, he was standing in a crowd full of folks waving "Reform Now!" signs. Those are Obama supporters, generally, aren't they?

"Reform" is code for "black," much like "Socialist."

The only thing that ISN'T code, is NeoCon.

754 I AM BREITBART!  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:52:03pm

re: #739 yochanan

judenfrei no jews alowed = anti semitism

and if jews aren't allowed in Jerusalem they aren't allowed anywere.

"Don't build here" isn't "no jews allowed" is it? I mean Arnold isn't gonna let me build a club house in capitol park across the street but that doesn't make him anti-State Worker (the furloughs on the other hand...) and doesn't keep me out of the park.

755 yochanan  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:52:09pm

if you say jews can't live in Jerusalem our holy city than you really don't accept jewish rights to live anywere. if the mer sight of a jew drives the anti semites crazy so be it. it shows that they really will never be peace

judenfrie was the anti semitic policy of not allowing jews to live some place in peace and freedom.

756 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:52:41pm

re: #737 sattv4u2

AND I have as yet to see "militias" getting into the Health Care fuss

I think some people believe that you can't get near any political event these days without having to wade through stormfronters, militia types, Paul-bots and tea-partiers extending their pinkies as they sip their refreshing beverages.

757 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:52:43pm

re: #721 Locker

I don't understand how "don't build here" is anti-semitic? I'm not a person of the Jewish faith and am in no position to judge. Just confused and request some clarification.

How about "Jews don't build in your own country" - does that do it for you?

758 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:54:23pm

re: #752 Killgore Trout

I swear, I want those super-imposed little green numbers and arrows.

759 Coracle  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:54:48pm

re: #755 yochanan

if you say jews can't live in Jerusalem our holy city than you really don't accept jewish rights to live anywere.

Freezing expansion in one area guaranteed to sow conflict is not the same as forbidding residence in the city altogether. Conflating those two is disingenuous.

760 debutaunt  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:54:53pm

re: #730 HoosierHoops

I hate so many tanins in my Merlot? don't you?
My God how does the other side live?
*wink*

haahahahahhahahahahahahhaa

761 opnion  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:55:14pm

re: #745 avanti

So armed conservatives should walk over to the pro Obama crowds, just in case they are "union thugs".

You missed the point. Where to begin? I was interpreting you as saying that the crowd could do a beat down on the guy. In any case it was a snarky joke.
My point however was that there is no reason to assume non-violence on the part of Obama supporters.

762 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:55:47pm

re: #696 Dianna

Yeah. After a bunch of guys on horses have stuck spears into the bull, he teases it for a while then sticks a sword into it.

I've always been on the bull's side.

You don't think there is nothing more beautiful in this world than one guy, singlehandedly, facing half a ton of angry pot roast?

763 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:56:13pm

re: #761 opnion

You missed the point. Where to begin? I was interpreting you as saying that the crowd could do a beat down on the guy. In any case it was a snarky joke.
My point however was that there is no reason to assume non-violence on the part of Obama supporters.

Youtube Video

These guys never got violent.

764 Dianna  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:57:17pm

re: #762 Kosh's Shadow

You don't think there is nothing more beautiful in this world than one guy, singlehandedly, facing half a ton of angry pot roast?

If it were really one guy, single-handed, I'd be happier.

765 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:57:31pm

re: #759 Coracle

Freezing expansion in one area guaranteed to sow conflict is not the same as forbidding residence in the city altogether. Conflating those two is disingenuous.

Wake up - the very existence of the State of Israel is guaranteed to sow conflict.

766 opnion  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:57:55pm

re: #763 kansas



These guys never got violent.


good post, they are merely members of the Obama drum & Bugle Corps.

767 kansas  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 2:58:34pm

re: #766 opnion

good post, they are merely members of the Obama drum & Bugle Corps.

Yeah, because Kazoos kind of blow the intimidation thing.

768 wrenchwench  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 3:00:24pm

re: #762 Kosh's Shadow

You don't think there is nothing more beautiful in this world than one guy, singlehandedly, facing half a ton of angry pot roast?

Upding for Tom Lehrer!

769 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 3:02:46pm

re: #764 Dianna

If it were really one guy, single-handed, I'd be happier.

That's right, there are
the picadors, of course, each one on his horse.
How I shouted Ole! every time one got gored.

(Youtube doesn't have this Tom Lehrer song)

770 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 3:11:10pm
771 yochanan  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 3:12:32pm

re: #765 Spare O'Lake

spare don't expect the obamaton to see what the effect of his position is.

772 Coracle  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 3:13:52pm

re: #770 yochanan

frankly your support for making parts of Jerusalem judenfrie i find anti semitic or self hating if your are jewish.

judenfrie is a Godwinian attack. It was a Nazi term used in the holocaust. You sound perilously close to calling Obama a Nazi. And me, which would be funny if it weren't reprehensibly offensive.

773 [deleted]  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 3:16:36pm
774 yochanan  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 3:17:36pm

in fact the state dept will not put Israel on my grand daughters passport because she was born in Jerusalem FRANKLY I FIND THAT TO BE ANTI SEMITIC

775 hardwarebabe  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 3:20:02pm

I've been registered for awhile, but have never commented. Mostly because people are very educated on this site and it is a little intimidating to jump in.
And that's why I love lgf, I learn so much.

776 Coracle  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 3:23:52pm

re: #773 yochanan

frankly obama support for makeinig parts of Jerusalem judenfrei is offensive to me

and frankly i don't care if you don't like it or not.

Lovely. While I think new settlements are counterproductive, I don't actually have a strong beef with your support of settlements per se. I know and understand both the moderate and extreme rationales for new settlements.

However you are ascribing extremist language to people who oppose your opinion. judenfrei is a Nazi term. Accusing anyone of supporting judenfrei is intentionally chosen language linking them with the Nazis. You've done it multiple times for Obama, and now with me. I think that is unnecessarily incendiary, and counterproductive any point you might want to make.

777 sattv4u2  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 3:23:52pm

re: #775 hardwarebabe

I've been registered for awhile, but have never commented. Mostly because people are very educated on this site and it is a little intimidating to jump in.
And that's why I love lgf, I learn so much.

((( ssshhh ,,, truth be told,,, we ain't all that smart,,, just mostly smoke blowers!!!)))

778 avanti  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 3:24:11pm

re: #761 opnion

You missed the point. Where to begin? I was interpreting you as saying that the crowd could do a beat down on the guy. In any case it was a snarky joke.
My point however was that there is no reason to assume non-violence on the part of Obama supporters.

I would not be in the mood to beat down a guy with a AR 15 over his shoulder, but that's just me.:)

779 brennant  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 3:26:23pm

I got in! I can join the fun!

Slightly OT: Just spent the weekend with wife's family. One cousin needs a swift kick in the butt. 21 years old, never held a job, in and out of the joint, smokes a lot of dope, sleeps all day, etc etc etc. If people like her don't turn you into a conservative, I don't know what will.

Now back to our current programming.

Thanks Charles for letting me in!

780 Kragar  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 3:27:20pm

re: #777 sattv4u2

((( ssshhh ,,, truth be told,,, we ain't all that smart,,, just mostly smoke blowers!!!)))

What goes on between you and the smoke is your own business...sinner.

/

781 callahan23  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 3:50:08pm

re: #779 brennant

Welcome brennant!
Stay cool and scaly. ;-)

782 Canoe Train  Mon, Aug 17, 2009 5:35:20pm

Let me add something to what Charles has posted in the Original Post:

A. If you do not care for what is being written and posted here at LGF, then stop coming here. No one is forcing you to read this blog. In that way, LGF is like a university class in that if you do not care to attend, you simply don't attend.

B. No flounce-offs please.


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