Saturday Night Music: Miles Davis at the Isle of Wight, Intro by Keith Jarrett

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Keith Jarrett has a talent so enormous it’s like a ferocious monkey on his back, and you get a glimpse of the monkey’s wrath in this video clip, as Jarrett introduces a recording of Miles Davis’ appearance at the 1970 Isle of Wight Festival. It’s no exaggeration to say that at this point in time, Miles was shattering musical boundaries and redefining jazz and blowing minds … again, for the third or fourth time in his career … and Jarrett, the acoustic purist, absolutely hated the volume and the electronic chaos — but at the same time, realized he was part of musical history. A great clip. (The rest of the concert is linked in the playlist below.)

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632 comments
1 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:04:46pm

Jarretts Monkey...cool

2 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:11:00pm

Too bad Miles didn't want acoustic piano. I think it would have been cool.

3 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:11:59pm

Listening to this makes me feel as if I've drunk 10 cups of coffee.

4 quickjustice  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:14:52pm

The Golden Age of Jazz. Sadly, you know that when Congress is enacting laws to preserve jazz, it's going downhill.

I was surprised at the Brubeck concert. The average audience age was around 20.

5 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:16:01pm

Chick looks like a teenager

6 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:16:10pm

Wonderful!

7 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:17:34pm

re: #3 MandyManners

Listening to this makes me feel as if I've drunk 10 cups of coffee.

it's a little frantic sounding...I like some of it, but it's not the Mommas and Papas for sure

8 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:17:48pm

re: #3 MandyManners

Listening to this makes me feel as if I've drunk 10 cups of coffee.

... and I want MORE!

9 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:17:54pm

re: #4 quickjustice

The Golden Age of Jazz. Sadly, you know that when Congress is enacting laws to preserve jazz, it's going downhill.

I was surprised at the Brubeck concert. The average audience age was around 20.

Really?

10 Danny  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:18:29pm

I never got to see Miles live. That must have really been something.

11 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:19:47pm

re: #7 albusteve

it's a little frantic sounding...I like some of it, but it's not the Mommas and Papas for sure

re: #8 SteveC

... and I want MORE!

I can't handle music that makes me wanna' chew on a Valium.

12 Danny  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:22:29pm

The sound gets really outta sync by around 6 minutes.

13 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:24:17pm

Love the 'fro he's sporting.

14 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:25:44pm

re: #4 quickjustice

The Golden Age of Jazz. Sadly, you know that when Congress is enacting laws to preserve jazz, it's going downhill.

I was surprised at the Brubeck concert. The average audience age was around 20.

I have zero knowledge regarding this, but it seems reasonable for the feds to help support preservation of something so distinctly American...as opposed to supporting or creating art...if not directly, then through grants

15 [deleted]  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:26:42pm
16 [deleted]  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:27:36pm
17 [deleted]  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:28:04pm
18 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:28:07pm

Bye now! Have fun storming the castle!

19 Danny  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:28:25pm

re: #18 Charles

LOL saw that one comin

20 mikeymom  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:28:42pm

oh my what did i do???

21 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:29:02pm

re: #20 mikeymom

You didn't use the reply function.

22 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:29:22pm

re: #18 Charles

Bye now! Have fun storming the castle!

Dang missed that!

23 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:29:47pm

re: #22 jcm

Dang missed that!

wasn't me...for once

24 mikeymom  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:29:50pm

aw poop but i didnt know who or what that was

25 [deleted]  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:30:27pm
26 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:30:27pm

re: #18 Charles

Bye now! Have fun storming the castle!

Aww man, I got troll guts all over my new jacket! Anyone know a good cleaner?

27 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:30:32pm

re: #20 mikeymom

oh my what did i do???

You quoted the trolls comment instead of replying to it. So Charles had to delete your post. That's all. You're alright.

28 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:30:46pm

The video above is now part of a YouTube playlist that lets you watch the whole concert if you are so inclined...

29 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:31:18pm

re: #28 Charles

Thanks!

30 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:32:14pm

I enjoyed the interview section of the vid more than the music...I love to hear musicians talk about their work, or that of others of course

31 mikeymom  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:32:27pm

re: #27 midwestgak

but --but- i didnt know what it was--i'm gonna cry--(any excuse for another glass of wine)

32 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:33:46pm

re: #31 mikeymom

but --but- i didnt know what it was--i'm gonna cry--(any excuse for another glass of wine)

Don't cry. I'll gather up the chunks while you light a fire. We'll have Troll-Que in half an hour!

33 snowcrash  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:33:53pm

re: #25 Cato the Elder
You just can't stop! You are like a two year old who needs constant attention on every thread. It really is getting old.

34 Gus  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:34:02pm

Now that's some nice volume.

35 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:35:15pm

re: #26 SteveC

Aww man, I got troll guts all over my new jacket! Anyone know a good cleaner?

You didn't grab your troll-proof cape in time?

36 BlueCanuck  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:35:22pm

re: #25 Cato the Elder

GAZE

37 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:36:41pm

re: #33 snowcrash

You just can't stop! You are like a two year old who needs constant attention on every thread. It really is getting old.

no, he's clarifying for the benefit of those people that did not read the entire exchange, or misunderstood his intention...jus sayin

38 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:36:44pm

re: #35 MandyManners

You didn't grab your troll-proof cape in time?

I had my hands on it, but it got hung up in my utility belt. I think I need to replace a spring in that belt.

39 David Simon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:37:00pm

Another nice summation of the tax paradox:

With a tan baseball cap hanging off one knee, Mr. Perry is proud to report that "Texas created more jobs in 2008 than the rest of the states—combined." As of July, the state, which taxes neither capital gains nor income, had an unemployment rate of 7.5%, two points below the national average, while California's hovered at 11.5%, two points above.

No wonder over half a million people flooded into Texas between 2000 and 2007. Meanwhile, 1.2 million residents left California in the same seven-year period.

The bottom line? Tax-and-spend governance is as bankrupt as California's bank account. By way of illustration, the governor replays a conversation he had with Rudy Giuliani during the presidential primaries.

They were talking about Michigan. "The Michigan governor was making statements about having to raise taxes so [they could keep] services at the level they were, instead of, like we did in Texas, cutting, not raising, taxes and cutting spending. There was a great difference in political philosophy. In Michigan, a liberal democrat raised taxes and kept their government programs at the same level. And guess what? Their economy continued into the toilet, it continued down.

"Our economy on the other hand [improved]—let me give you a great example: We had a $10 billion budget deficit when we got here in January of 2003. We cut that budget deficit; we did not raise taxes; we came back in '05, and we had an $8 billion surplus. That's how fast it can happen.

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Another no individual income tax state; another success story. As low margin business owners located in states like Texas and Washington will testify, business gross receipts taxes are hell on low margin businesses (such as grocery stores). But residents will gladly pay higher prices because the state government isn't stealing their money. At the end of the day, they still have more money left.

40 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:37:32pm

re: #26 SteveC

Aww man, I got troll guts all over my new jacket! Anyone know a good cleaner?

Pretreat, let set for 15 minutes then wash as usual.

41 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:38:46pm

re: #39 David Simon

Another nice summation of the tax paradox:

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Another no individual income tax state; another success story. As low margin business owners located in states like Texas and Washington will testify, business gross receipts taxes are hell on low margin businesses (such as grocery stores). But residents will gladly pay higher prices because the state government isn't stealing their money. At the end of the day, they still have more money left.

and they have addressed medical tort reform to some extent, hence doctors have flooded into to practice...especially OBGYNs

42 Cato the Elder  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:38:51pm

re: #37 albusteve

Thank you.

43 TedStriker  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:39:13pm

re: #26 SteveC

Aww man, I got troll guts all over my new jacket! Anyone know a good cleaner?

I think Billy Mays, before his cocaine-assisted shuffling off of his mortal coil, was hawking something that might help:

TrollOxyClean!

///

44 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:39:31pm

re: #31 mikeymom

but --but- i didnt know what it was--i'm gonna cry--(any excuse for another glass of wine)

Here's a tip for the future. When you see a nic that you've never seen before, and the avatar is still a football, click on the football and view the stats. If the Karma is low, beware. Especially of the comment made was snarky and/or anti-Charles.

Also, if the poster registered in 2004 and made only a handful of comments, that is another sign you are dealing with a troll.

45 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:40:15pm

re: #39 David Simon

The downside in WA is the B&O tax. And user fees on everything under the sun.

46 mikeymom  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:41:00pm

re: #44 midwestgak

thx mwg--i know that--been around here a bit--the wine made me jump on it--sorrryyy

47 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:41:15pm

re: #44 midwestgak

Here's a tip for the future. When you see a nic that you've never seen before, and the avatar is still a football, click on the football and view the stats. If the Karma is low, beware. Especially of the comment made was snarky and/or anti-Charles.

Also, if the poster registered in 2004 and made only a handful of comments, that is another sign you are dealing with a troll.

We all learn the hard way...

Don't quote the troll.

48 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:42:25pm

re: #46 mikeymom

thx mwg--i know that--been around here a bit--the wine made me jump on it--sorrryyy

LOL!

One night I warned someone, Don't quote the Troll...
Then half a dozen comments later... quoted the troll.

49 mikeymom  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:42:25pm

re: #47 jcm

jees-didnt know it was a troll--sorryy!

50 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:42:42pm

re: #37 albusteve

no, he's clarifying for the benefit of those people that did not read the entire exchange, or misunderstood his intention...jus sayin

Is that why #25 was deleted?

51 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:43:04pm

re: #44 midwestgak

Here's a tip for the future. When you see a nic that you've never seen before, and the avatar is still a football, click on the football and view the stats. If the Karma is low, beware. Especially of the comment made was snarky and/or anti-Charles.

Also, if the poster registered in 2004 and made only a handful of comments, that is another sign you are dealing with a troll.

don't diss the green football...I like mine

52 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:43:18pm

re: #41 albusteve

and they have addressed medical tort reform to some extent, hence doctors have flooded into to practice...especially OBGYNs

Don't they use the Medical Review Board System? All lawsuits get reviewed by an independent medical board. Only if they say they suit is legit can it go forward.

If you aren't going to use a Medical Review Board, at the very least change the laws so that the lawsuit loser pays ALL fees/costs. That will cut frivolous lawsuits all by itself.

53 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:43:22pm

re: #49 mikeymom

jees-didnt know it was a troll--sorryy!

Don't apologize, laughing with you, and ribbing you a bit. We've all done it...

54 Van Helsing  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:43:24pm

re: #45 jcm

The downside in WA is the B&O tax. And user fees on everything under the sun.

Well, that's quite the tax, that B&O thing.
You could end up paying taxes even if you lose money (net)?

55 jaunte  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:43:46pm

re: #39 David Simon

Thomas Sowell did an interesting talk (NRO, Uncommon Knowledge series) about land use laws, California, vs. Texas, especially Houston (which has no zoning) and their effect on the housing bust. Fewer restrictions smooth out the boom and bust cycles.

56 Danny  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:43:52pm

re: #49 mikeymom

You're fine, it's not like it's a front page story or anything. Pretty esoteric, actually.

57 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:43:58pm

re: #44 midwestgak

Here's a tip for the future. When you see a nic that you've never seen before, and the avatar is still a football, click on the football and view the stats. If the Karma is low, beware. Especially of the comment made was snarky and/or anti-Charles.

Also, if the poster registered in 2004 and made only a handful of comments, that is another sign you are dealing with a troll.

I Googled the topic in the post and figured the post would be gone by the time I got back to LGF.

58 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:44:45pm

re: #54 Van Helsing

Well, that's quite the tax, that B&O thing.
You could end up paying taxes even if you lose money (net)?

IIRC it's on gross receipts, not net. So yes.

59 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:45:21pm

re: #48 jcm

LOL!

One night I warned someone, Don't quote the Troll...
Then half a dozen comments later... quoted the troll.

LOL

60 mikeymom  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:45:27pm

re: #57 MandyManners

well, la-dee-da!! aren't YOU the smart one!! ///

61 Danny  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:46:07pm

re: #44 midwestgak

Also, if the poster registered in 2004 and made only a handful of comments, that is another possible sign you are dealing with a troll.

I edited this because that description fits me, not because I was a troll, but because I was just so busy I only had time to read but not to participate. So, there are exceptions.

62 David Simon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:46:08pm

re: #41 albusteve

and they have addressed medical tort reform to some extent, hence doctors have flooded into to practice...especially OBGYNs

Yes, the article addresses that. California, believe it or not, also has enacted tort reform.

63 OldLineTexan  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:46:19pm

re: #58 jcm

IIRC it's on gross receipts, not net. So yes.

You see tax money is free and comes from nowhere so we can buy stuffs for YOU.

/economics is not their strong suit

64 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:46:21pm

re: #51 albusteve

don't diss the green football...I like mine

re: #53 jcm

Don't apologize, laughing with you, and ribbing you a bit. We've all done it...

Speaking of ribs... these Troll Ribs look mighty succulent. Just what a growing Lizard needs! Who wants one?

65 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:46:48pm

re: #52 SteveC

Don't they use the Medical Review Board System? All lawsuits get reviewed by an independent medical board. Only if they say they suit is legit can it go forward.

If you aren't going to use a Medical Review Board, at the very least change the laws so that the lawsuit loser pays ALL fees/costs. That will cut frivolous lawsuits all by itself.

don't know...but reform lowered the insurance rates substantially...I read a blurb just today somewhere...the story is around somewhere

66 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:46:50pm

Don't quote people being snarky to Charles. Full stop.

67 itellu3times  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:46:56pm

re: #58 jcm

IIRC it's on gross receipts, not net. So yes.

Los Angeles city business tax works roughly the same way. Was very annoying, until they decided to exempt businesses less than $100k, which generally included moi. However, in principle, I sort of approve.

68 Danny  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:47:34pm

re: #66 Sharmuta

That'll do.

69 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:47:45pm

re: #68 Danny

thanks

70 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:48:14pm

re: #55 jaunte

Thomas Sowell did an interesting talk (NRO, Uncommon Knowledge series) about land use laws, California, vs. Texas, especially Houston (which has no zoning) and their effect on the housing bust. Fewer restrictions smooth out the boom and bust cycles.

Houston, without zoning, is a peculiar mish-mash. But it seems to work!

71 David Simon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:48:56pm

re: #45 jcm

The downside in WA is the B&O tax. And user fees on everything under the sun.

Yes, the Business and Occupation tax is unfortunate. But it's a gross receipts (i.e. it hits low margin businesses the hardest), and consumers are left with more money to spend.

72 OldLineTexan  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:49:02pm

re: #68 Danny

That'll do.

Hah, that's what my maternal grandfather used to say to me and my brothers right before he took off his belt.

/

73 Van Helsing  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:49:03pm

re: #67 itellu3times

Los Angeles city business tax works roughly the same way. Was very annoying, until they decided to exempt businesses less than $100k, which generally included moi. However, in principle, I sort of approve.

Do they have any kind of exemption for capital expenditures, like business expansion, equipment, etc?

74 itellu3times  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:49:08pm

There is major nothing on tv from the broadcast networks now on Saturday night. Or Sunday morning, outside of the obligatory talking head shows.

Is broadcast dead?

75 jaunte  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:49:33pm

re: #70 The Shadow Do

Areas in transition get messy, but because the land use can change more easily, the price stays lower.

76 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:50:13pm

What an amazing group of musicians. I hope Charles had a chance to play with some of them. If not, what an influence anyway.

77 itellu3times  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:50:52pm

re: #73 Van Helsing

Do they have any kind of exemption for capital expenditures, like business expansion, equipment, etc?

IIRC (having closed my biz a few years ago now), there's a flat fee of a couple hundred bucks by category, then a percentage of gross receipts from activity inside the city limits, and that's that. May have varied by category, may have changed by now.

78 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:50:55pm

re: #51 albusteve

don't diss the green football...I like mine

How you got that I was diss'n green footballs out of what I said, well, only your mind knows for sure.

79 OldLineTexan  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:51:20pm

re: #74 itellu3times

There is major nothing on tv from the broadcast networks now on Saturday night. Or Sunday morning, outside of the obligatory talking head shows.

Is broadcast dead?

24-hour cable ... it's like using your packet of Kool-Aid with 48 times more water than the package says ...

80 David Simon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:51:53pm

re: #54 Van Helsing

Well, that's quite the tax, that B&O thing.
You could end up paying taxes even if you lose money (net)?

That's true of all gross receipts taxes. Ohio and Michigan have them and an individual income tax to boot. How many new businesses do you think those states are going to attract?

81 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:52:04pm

re: #75 jaunte

Areas in transition get messy, but because the land use can change more easily, the price stays lower.

Makes a ton of sense.

82 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:52:13pm

re: #62 David Simon

Yes, the article addresses that. California, believe it or not, also has enacted tort reform.

more evidence that states can do a reasonable job of reform themselves...and further to help get some more competition going between insurers...the feds should stick to reform regarding the elusive 12% or whoever they are...not tear down the entire system and overload it with federal muscle

83 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:52:33pm

re: #63 OldLineTexan

You see tax money is free and comes from nowhere so we can buy stuffs for YOU.

/economics is not their strong suit

Hell, you should have watch the details of this last budget. First the incumbent Gov. ran on a "surplus" while the papers and opponent were warning of a deficit. Once she won, SURPRISE we have the GWB deficit to deal with. The "official" deficit went from $700 million to $8 Billion in a few months.

Despite that the legislature "balance" the budget. Taking the promised stimulus money into account and other one time account tricks to balance it, thereby kicking the $8 Billion bomb down the road two years.

$8 Billion in WA per capita wise is the a hole the same size as CA, our government just managed to cover it up for a extra two years.

WA in late '10 into '11 is going be in same spot as CA.

84 Danny  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:52:53pm

re: #76 The Shadow Do

What an amazing group of musicians. I hope Charles had a chance to play with some of them. If not, what an influence anyway.

He played with Airto Moreira on Airtos album "I'm Fine, How Are You."

85 jim in virginia  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:52:57pm

re: #79 OldLineTexan

24-hour cable ... it's like using your packet of Kool-Aid with 48 times more water than the package says ...

500 channels and still nothign to watch

86 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:53:47pm

re: #78 midwestgak

How you got that I was diss'n green footballs out of what I said, well, only your mind knows for sure.

just being a funner...some of us don't want fancy avatars

87 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:53:54pm

I love scam-spam:

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A customer of ours who may relate to you (perhaps)...


Perhaps. If he's into beer, loose women, pizza, and video games, then I guess he can relate to me.

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During the bank private search recently for the late gentleman relatives your name and email contact was among the findings that matches the same surname as the deceased (name WITHELD for security reason) [Big fucking surprise there -SB] who died intestate with no Will or next of kin. To maintain the level of security required I have intentionally left out the final details.

My proposition to you is to seek your consent to present you as the next-of-kin and beneficiary, since you have the same last name,


Fat chance. The email account this was sent to is one of my free, "throwaway" accounts. The name my account is registered under is a combination of nonsensical and mythical words, no one on earth would be called this, or name their child in such a way.

...so that the proceeds of this account can be paid to you since I can provide you with the details needed for you to claim the estate/capital so that I can be gratify by you,


No way, dude. No. Freaking. Way. The Behemoth just don't roll that way. NTTAWWT.

in this way $8,580,000.00 for you and $12,870,000.00 for me and my colleagues that will do all the crucial part in the bank to have the claim release to you promptly. To affirm your willingness and cooperation please do so by replying me at my private email [email redacted] stating.

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I do expect your prompt response.

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Yeah, I'll get right on that. Don't hold your breath, Mr. Kwon.

88 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:53:56pm

re: #76 The Shadow Do

What an amazing group of musicians. I hope Charles had a chance to play with some of them. If not, what an influence anyway.

I played with several of the musicians on that stage -- sometimes publicly, sometimes not.

89 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:54:00pm

re: #83 jcm

Hell, you should have watch the details of this last budget. First the incumbent Gov. ran on a "surplus" while the papers and opponent were warning of a deficit. Once she won, SURPRISE we have the GWB deficit to deal with. The "official" deficit went from $700 million to $8 Billion in a few months.

Despite that the legislature "balance" the budget. Taking the promised stimulus money into account and other one time account tricks to balance it, thereby kicking the $8 Billion bomb down the road two years.

$8 Billion in WA per capita wise is the a hole the same size as CA, our government just managed to cover it up for a extra two years.

WA in late '10 into '11 is going be in same spot as CA.

Maybe the Big One that makes most of the West Coast fall off into the ocean is just what we need!

90 freetoken  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:54:09pm

Someone got bounced... on a jazz thread?

/what is the world coming to?

91 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:54:51pm

re: #61 Danny

I edited this because that description fits me, not because I was a troll, but because I was just so busy I only had time to read but not to participate. So, there are exceptions.

Point taken. But your comments aren't snarky or anti-Charles. I put in a few qualifiers. How are you tonight, btw?

92 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:54:59pm

re: #71 David Simon

Yes, the Business and Occupation tax is unfortunate. But it's a gross receipts (i.e. it hits low margin businesses the hardest), and consumers are left with more money to spend.

It still comes out, business adjust pricing to compensate. Folks on the borders with ID and OR jump the border to shop. They've even suggested the State Patrol look for those folks. Internet sales piss 'em off too.

93 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:55:12pm

re: #90 freetoken

Someone got bounced... on a jazz thread?

/what is the world coming to?

Johnny Carson audience: THE FORK IN THE ROAD!

94 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:56:12pm

re: #90 freetoken

Someone got bounced... on a jazz thread?

/what is the world coming to?

Not a jazz fan I guess.

95 David Simon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:56:13pm

re: #55 jaunte

Thomas Sowell did an interesting talk (NRO, Uncommon Knowledge series) about land use laws, California, vs. Texas, especially Houston (which has no zoning) and their effect on the housing bust. Fewer restrictions smooth out the boom and bust cycles.

I love Sowell's work. I highly recommend his book Applied Economics (which discusses the topic you mention). There's no other Ivy League economist I know of who can boil down compex economic issues into plain english like Sowell.

96 pink freud  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:56:22pm

Open reg. :)

97 Danny  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:56:39pm

re: #91 midwestgak

Feeling good, thanks. Rode in the Heart of Tennessee 100 this morning, where the air is clean, the pastures, green, and pretty girls in lyrca shorts were everywhere to be seen!

98 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:57:05pm

Hey! I got my Heart icon up! :)

I had been plagued by *ahem* technical difficulties. (Interpreted: General Stupidity)

99 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:57:28pm

re: #94 jcm

Not a jazz fan I guess.

Miles is not for everyone obviously

100 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:57:33pm

re: #96 pink freud

Open reg. :)

Sure is.

101 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:57:34pm

re: #86 albusteve

just being a funner...some of us don't want fancy avatars

I only traded in my football a few weeks ago. :)

102 jim in virginia  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:58:21pm

OLT, how does the Texas governor's race look?

103 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:58:56pm

re: #101 midwestgak

I only traded in my football a few weeks ago. :)

SEE!...
(I'd consider it but I don't know how)

104 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:59:21pm

re: #97 Danny

Feeling good, thanks. Rode in the Heart of Tennessee 100 this morning, where the air is clean, the pastures, green, and pretty girls in lyrca shorts were everywhere to be seen!

"G-d, thank you for hearing a simple man's prayers. Take care of my parents as they age. Be with my friends. And thank you for whomever invented Lycra and Spandex. It is much appreciated! Amen!"

105 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 6:59:30pm

re: #84 Danny

He played with Airto Moreira on Airtos album "I'm Fine, How Are You."

I didn't know that. A good listen. I will order up on Amazon, using Charles link of course.

106 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:00:10pm

re: #99 albusteve

Miles is not for everyone obviously

Barbarians!

/;-P

107 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:00:20pm

re: #88 Charles

I played with several of the musicians on that stage -- sometimes publicly, sometimes not.

Shit, just shit. Too fine.

108 David Simon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:00:31pm

re: #67 itellu3times

Los Angeles city business tax works roughly the same way. Was very annoying, until they decided to exempt businesses less than $100k, which generally included moi. However, in principle, I sort of approve.

Problem is, LA residents pay state individual income tax at a top marginal rate of over 9%.

109 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:02:00pm

re: #87 Slumbering Behemoth

I can do you one better, I got one from Queen Elizabeth II, well, someone who works for her, despite his poor English grammar. And a hotmail email account.

Attn: Beneficiary

My names are Mr. Robert Henry. I am the director of information Her Majesty Revenue and Customs, London United Kingdom. Our duty is to look into transactions and records of banks, securities companies and financial houses within Europe based on the directive of the British Prime Minister.
We also work in collaboration with American, Asian, African and Australian clearing houses.
During our investigation we discovered un-paid debts from different banks and securities companies, worth over Ј400m pounds lying unpaid with Banks in UK and that you are to be paid for an INHERITED FUND/ASSET, which requires presentation of certain documents and payment of fees before the fund could be released to you.


I want to inform you that the problem you are having is from your partners and the lawyers who is representing you, they do not reveal the reason for the delay of your payment and the reason you should pay the money they demand from you. My reason for contacting you is to inform you to stop payment of any such to the lawyer or to the financial institutions and securities companies as you will not receive your fund due to some anomalies we discovered in your file.
We are to protect your interest, contact me immediately so we can advice you on how you will receive your fund without any impediment. You are hereby advised to maintain constant contact with me and avoid any interaction with unscrupulous agents, partners or lawyers.

Yours faithfully,

Majesty Queen Elizabeth II
Queen of the United Kingdom


Funny, how can I avoid dealing with an unscrupulous agent if I contact him? He seems pretty unscrupulous to me.

110 OldLineTexan  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:02:23pm

re: #102 jim in virginia

OLT, how does the Texas governor's race look?

Like nothing so far.

I saw a Perry sticker ... that's about it.

111 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:02:31pm

re: #102 jim in virginia

OLT, how does the Texas governor's race look?

All I know is that Kay Bailey Hutchinson is running.

112 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:04:28pm

re: #102 jim in virginia

OLT, how does the Texas governor's race look?

Perry the Dork vs. Hutchison the Same Old. A new candidate has emerged, Medina, who turns out to be a pretty sharp cookie. Running to the right of the favored two. Should be interesting.

113 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:05:40pm

re: #108 David Simon

Problem is, LA residents pay state individual income tax at a top marginal rate of over 9%.

Nearby City Council had open hearings on a new 2% tax on prepared food, with proceeds going to "tourism". 75 people at the meeting. (usually 3-5) all but one said "No! This tax will hurt business!" One guy from a local museum was in favor of it. Council voted it in 7-0.

Next week, article in paper about City Council Chairman had won some type of award.

Third week, a letter to the editor asked "Was Mr. Jones award in recognition of his ability to do exactly what his constituents *didn't* want? If so, it was richly deserved!"

OUCH!

114 jaunte  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:05:42pm

re: #102 jim in virginia

Hutchison favored in polling:

No politician won a majority of likely voters. Of all likely voters in the poll, Ms. Hutchison was favored by 35 percent to Mr. Perry's 22 percent.


[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]

115 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:06:32pm

re: #106 jcm

Barbarians!

/;-P

probably another Stones geek

116 David Simon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:06:54pm

re: #109 Kosh's Shadow

I can do you one better, I got one from Queen Elizabeth II, well, someone who works for her, despite his poor English grammar. And a hotmail email account.


Funny, how can I avoid dealing with an unscrupulous agent if I contact him? He seems pretty unscrupulous to me.

You can tell that one's not authentic. There's no admonishment to pardon terrorists that are in ill health.

117 itellu3times  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:07:16pm

re: #79 OldLineTexan

24-hour cable ... it's like using your packet of Kool-Aid with 48 times more water than the package says ...

Sure, cable (or sat) with premium channels and Tivo, can keep a person entertained, sort of, especially if you like twenty year old reruns.

118 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:08:01pm

re: #108 David Simon

Problem is, LA residents pay state individual income tax at a top marginal rate of over 9%.

are you saying that the state income tax varies by location?...I don't get it

119 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:08:18pm

re: #114 jaunte

Hutchison favored in polling:


[Link: www.dallasnews.com...]

Medina hasn't hit the radar yet. A true wild card.

120 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:09:35pm

I Kinda stopped posting this stuff so much but since zonbie's latest report I promised that I'd archive Obama protest death threats...
LaRouche Democrats say Obama-Hitler should be Hanged for Crimes

When I asked the man on the right what his sign meant, he told me “That guy asked me for $1,000 for LaRouche about an hour ago. He told me stuff about colonizing Mars and hanging Obama as a criminal. I told him I didn’t have money, so he started hitting up another guy for money.”

At this point, LaRouche guy interjected that none of that was true, and called the man on the right a liar repeatedly. It all sounded too bizarre. I could not tell who was telling the truth. The LaRouche worker stalked off and I asked the man if he was really told those things about Mars and hanging Obama. “Yes, and he gave me a magazine, and I read it, and it says the same things in that. I went to Walgreen’s and bought this poster board and a pen and here I am.” I asked him to show me the magazine. He went to his car, retrieved the magazine, and showed me below: “President Obama should be hung.” That’s his thumb, by the way, holding the LaRouche magazine, dated August 1, 2009.


With pics. Very odd.

121 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:09:43pm

re: #103 albusteve

SEE!...
(I'd consider it but I don't know how)

Log in to the LGF My Account. You'll see "Icon" Look a little further down and click on the "Tech Note." It's will give you further instructions and parameters for changing your avatar.

Remember to click "Save" at the bottom of the page once you have uploaded the avatar. If you have further questions, just ask. Someone will answer you.

btw, if I can do it, you can too. :)

122 itellu3times  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:09:50pm

re: #108 David Simon

Problem is, LA residents pay state individual income tax at a top marginal rate of over 9%.

And California businesses (regular corps) pay additional taxes, with conventional deductions for expenses and a minimum franchise tax of $800 last I looked.

And must collect sales taxes which are now exceeding 10% in some municipal areas, which the business must track individually. Fun for all, not.

123 David Simon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:10:16pm

re: #113 SteveC

Nearby City Council had open hearings on a new 2% tax on prepared food, with proceeds going to "tourism".

What do they consider to be tourism? Migrating bums from San Francisco unhappy with their reduced welfare stipend?

124 pink freud  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:11:25pm

re: #119 The Shadow Do

Medina hasn't hit the radar yet. A true wild card.

Brings to mind Cao, a true conservative, who took the whole shebang in William "Freezer" Jefferson's long-held district in New Orleans. Came out of nowhere, campaigned hard ...and won! Truly amazing.

People are ready for a change. I'd say Medina's worth watching.

125 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:11:32pm

re: #120 Killgore Trout

This man, who didn’t want me to use his name, said he was 28 and a first time voter. He said he was always skeptical about politics but voted for Obama because he was “different”.

He also showed me this page (above), which confirmed the Mars part of his sign. I scanned it at home and added the red for a little artistic effect. A red Dem wants to colonize the red planet. You couldn’t make this stuff up, folks.

“I am still an advocate of the space program, I’m trying to push it beyond what some people would like to see it pushed to. And you will see more of that, if I’m around, in the coming period: We are going to go to Mars…One would hope that we would find a way to get our people there, safely. So the problem is getting our people there safely.” - LaRouche, August 1, 2009


uhhh?

126 jaunte  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:12:19pm

re: #119 The Shadow Do

Looks like she has a lot of Libertarian support:
[Link: www.burntorangereport.com...]

127 David Simon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:12:39pm

re: #118 albusteve

are you saying that the state income tax varies by location?...I don't get it

No silly. California income tax rates vary by wealth. (Up to a top rate of over 9%!)

128 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:13:36pm

re: #126 jaunte

Looks like she has a lot of Libertarian support:
[Link: www.burntorangereport.com...]

Full-on Paulian.

129 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:13:57pm

re: #119 The Shadow Do

Medina hasn't hit the radar yet. A true wild card.

Wild Cards!

130 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:14:12pm

re: #121 midwestgak

Log in to the LGF My Account. You'll see "Icon" Look a little further down and click on the "Tech Note." It's will give you further instructions and parameters for changing your avatar.

Remember to click "Save" at the bottom of the page once you have uploaded the avatar. If you have further questions, just ask. Someone will answer you.

btw, if I can do it, you can too. :)

I could do it...I'm just satisfied with the Green Football...but I did not recall instructions posted by Charles, that's pretty cool...thanks

131 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:14:18pm

re: #120 Killgore Trout

I Kinda stopped posting this stuff so much but since zonbie's latest report I promised that I'd archive Obama protest death threats...
LaRouche Democrats say Obama-Hitler should be Hanged for Crimes


With pics. Very odd.

Phew, the stupid runs deep. Is this some sixteen year-olds loaded on 3.2 beer or is this the future of the country? Inquiring minds want to know!

132 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:14:21pm

Good evening Lizards!
Hope tonight finds you well

133 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:14:57pm

re: #132 HoosierHoops

Good evening Lizards!
Hope tonight finds you well

Hoops!

134 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:15:52pm

re: #133 jcm

Hoops!

What's kicking chicken!?
Hey you

135 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:15:59pm

re: #123 David Simon

What do they consider to be tourism? Migrating bums from San Francisco unhappy with their reduced welfare stipend?

City holds a MAJOR Steeplechase race each year (The Carolina Cup), attracts 50,000+ people. They're high on the recipient list.

136 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:16:20pm

re: #127 David Simon

No silly. California income tax rates vary by wealth. (Up to a top rate of over 9%!)

of course...I think I got confused with sales tax for a second...duh

137 irish rose  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:16:23pm

re: #132 HoosierHoops

Good evening Lizards!
Hope tonight finds you well

Hiya, lizards!

Good evening, Hoops.
Send me an email wouldja.

138 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:16:46pm

re: #120 Killgore Trout

Wow! But why is El Marco calling them democrats?

139 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:17:10pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

No arrests, I assume?

140 jaunte  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:17:18pm

re: #128 MandyManners

Sure looks like it.

141 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:17:59pm

re: #134 HoosierHoops

What's kicking chicken!?
Hey you

Bath time!

Littlest one in sink. The run the next three through the tub...


BBL

142 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:18:03pm
One would hope that we would find a way to get our people there, safely. So the problem is getting our people there safely.” - LaRouche, August 1, 2009

The problem is not in getting to the top of Everest. The problem is getting off of Everest.

143 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:18:03pm

re: #137 irish rose

Hiya, lizards!

Good evening, Hoops.
Send me an email wouldja.

Hey you...How did the gig go today?

144 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:19:01pm

re: #132 HoosierHoops

{Hoosier} Bears are beating the Giants. Woot. Woot. And we now have a quarterback.

Cutler, Cutler. Hanie ain't too shabby either.

How you tonight?

145 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:19:04pm

re: #124 pink freud

Brings to mind Cao, a true conservative, who took the whole shebang in William "Freezer" Jefferson's long-held district in New Orleans. Came out of nowhere, campaigned hard ...and won! Truly amazing.

People are ready for a change. I'd say Medina's worth watching.

I heard her for the first time this week on a radio interview. No political history, but smart as hell and well spoken. I have no clue what her positions are on Darwin, etc but her first impression was very good. Perry has got to go but not at the expense of a Democrat in the position. Kay simply needs to retire (she knows it), and the governorship is not the place to do it in this tax payers opinion.

146 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:21:01pm

re: #142 SteveC

The problem is not in getting to the top of Everest. The problem is getting off of Everest.

interesting...seriously I wonder if more fatalities occur during ascent rather than descent?...seems like Everest has claimed alot of lives recently

147 David Simon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:21:19pm

re: #122 itellu3times

And California businesses (regular corps) pay additional taxes, with conventional deductions for expenses and a minimum franchise tax of $800 last I looked.

And must collect sales taxes which are now exceeding 10% in some municipal areas, which the business must track individually. Fun for all, not.

Depends on how your business is organized. If you're taxed under Subchapter C of the Internal Revenue Code, you pay a higher rate. If you're a Subchapter S corporation, you pay a low rate, but all the income of the corporation "flows through" to the shareholders (who pay California's usurious individual income tax rate). If you're an LLC, it's unclear. The state supreme court has declared the ridiculous LLC fee unconstitutional - twice - but the Franchise Tax Board continues to assess it. The $800 you refer to is the minimum tax that's assessed to all businesses for the privilege of operating in California.

148 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:21:36pm

re: #144 midwestgak

{Hoosier} Bears are beating the Giants. Woot. Woot. And we now have a quarterback.

Cutler, Cutler. Hanie ain't too shabby either.

How you tonight?


Awesome...I am looking everywhere.. can't find the game...still looking

149 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:22:19pm

re: #144 midwestgak

{Hoosier} Bears are beating the Giants. Woot. Woot. And we now have a quarterback.

Cutler, Cutler. Hanie ain't too shabby either.

How you tonight?

beware of the J-Man...he's good tho, but I wonder does he really want to play for the Bears?...I hope so

150 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:23:20pm

re: #131 The Shadow Do

I found video earlier of Larouchians singing 3 part harmony at some protest. Very odd and creepy. All young and well groomed. The interviewer kept asking them if their parents know where they are. Very strange.

151 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:23:51pm

re: #148 HoosierHoops

Awesome...I am looking everywhere.. can't find the game...still looking

WFLD Channel 12 here.

152 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:23:58pm

re: #146 albusteve

interesting...seriously I wonder if more fatalities occur during ascent rather than descent?...seems like Everest has claimed alot of lives recently

The theory is that you are super aware, very careful during the ascent, but once you start down, you tend to relax. Lose the mental edge a little, and above 25,000 feet, ANY accident is fatal.

153 freetoken  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:23:58pm

Snow Leopard appears to be near:

Apple Mac mini purchase claimed to ship with Snow Leopard disc

An anonymous Mac mini buyer in Japan has claimed, with pictures, to have received with their purchase an install DVD of Snow Leopard, Apple's upcoming operating system release.

The pictures, sent to Engadget Japanese, have served further fuel speculation that Apple will release Snow Leopard this week, ahead of its announced September release. Numerous rumors and temporary Web site listings have pointed to an Aug. 28 launch.

154 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:24:08pm

re: #139 Sharmuta

No arrests, I assume?

Nope, not even LaRouche who's probably been printing that book for a while.

155 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:24:26pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

I found video earlier of Larouchians singing 3 part harmony at some protest. Very odd and creepy. All young and well groomed. The interviewer kept asking them if their parents know where they are. Very strange.

Ha!...post it

156 A Man for all Seasons  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:25:14pm

re: #144 midwestgak

{Hoosier} Bears are beating the Giants. Woot. Woot. And we now have a quarterback.

Cutler, Cutler. Hanie ain't too shabby either.

How you tonight?

Hey you...I'm doing wonderful...Hope you are well

157 avanti  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:26:22pm

After Charles commented on the Roomba, I recalled it was listed in the casino gift book, so I ordered one. I assumed was pretty much a toy, but it works great. It runs around the house, and heads back to it's charging station when it needs to recharge. You can set a timer to have it clean up at a certain time of day. The only downside is it needs to be emptied and brushes cleaned every 20 minutes or so the first few times it makes a run since we have 10 years worth of cat hair under some furniture and beds that it feels like it needs to find as it scoots under anything 3 inches off the floor. Pretty cool little gadget.

158 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:27:26pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

I found video earlier of Larouchians singing 3 part harmony at some protest. Very odd and creepy. All young and well groomed. The interviewer kept asking them if their parents know where they are. Very strange.

OK, you creeped me out...

159 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:27:59pm

re: #155 albusteve

Ha!...post it

OK, you asked for it...
LaRouche Youth Hijack Teabagger Protest

Youtube Video
160 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:28:25pm

re: #157 avanti

What can one expect to pay for a Roomba? Sounds like something I would like to buy.

161 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:28:42pm

re: #157 avanti

I really want one. Maybe for X-mas.

162 OldLineTexan  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:30:03pm

They should teach the Roombas to hack up furballs ...

163 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:30:27pm

Two #160s?

164 Gus  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:30:34pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

OK, you asked for it...
LaRouche Youth Hijack Teabagger Protest

[Video]

Cult.

165 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:30:35pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

Dona nobis pacem? That is creepy.

166 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:31:19pm

Get a load of this guy...
LaRouche PAC Demonstration Bear Stearns N.Y.

Youtube Video
167 OldLineTexan  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:31:27pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

I found video earlier of Larouchians singing 3 part harmony at some protest. Very odd and creepy. All young and well groomed. The interviewer kept asking them if their parents know where they are. Very strange.

ANYTHING LaRouchians do is creepy. Including the threats and intimidation they've been handing out to critics for decades.

168 Scion9  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:32:05pm

re: #4 quickjustice


I was surprised at the Brubeck concert. The average audience age was around 20.

Phenomena explained.

169 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:32:12pm

re: #162 OldLineTexan

They should teach the Roombas to hack up furballs ...

New on DVD! Lyndon LaRouche dances the Roomba!

170 Irenicum  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:32:28pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

The LaRouchies are seriously f-ed up people. That video is just bizarre!

171 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:34:29pm

re: #124 pink freud

Brings to mind Cao, a true conservative, who took the whole shebang in William "Freezer" Jefferson's long-held district in New Orleans. Came out of nowhere, campaigned hard ...and won! Truly amazing.

People are ready for a change. I'd say Medina's worth watching.

Paulian.

172 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:34:44pm

re: #145 The Shadow Do

I heard her for the first time this week on a radio interview. No political history, but smart as hell and well spoken. I have no clue what her positions are on Darwin, etc but her first impression was very good. Perry has got to go but not at the expense of a Democrat in the position. Kay simply needs to retire (she knows it), and the governorship is not the place to do it in this tax payers opinion.

Paulian.

173 avanti  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:35:02pm

re: #160 midwestgak

What can one expect to pay for a Roomba? Sounds like something I would like to buy.

I just checked, most are in the $250 and up range, some much more. I got the 565 and I think they are under $300. The nice thing is I can have it vacuum every day by just detting the timer. It's also great entertainment if you have cats.

174 pink freud  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:35:32pm

re: #171 MandyManners

Does look that way.

175 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:36:14pm

re: #170 Irenicum

The LaRouchies are seriously f-ed up people. That video is just bizarre!

entertaining tho...not exactly the Beach Boys

176 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:36:29pm

re: #166 Killgore Trout

A back-up choir singing Dona Nobis Pacem would have really driven that home.

177 pink freud  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:36:44pm

re: #174 pink freud

Does look that way.

I imagine TFK will have the inside info.

178 jaunte  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:36:56pm

re: #172 MandyManners

Not a good sign:
Debra Medina: "Lew Rockwell says the recent efforts on Capitol Hill are working to effectively turn the American car industry into a public-private partnership of the sort Mussolini would have applauded. How many of us recognize these bailouts as fascist answers to economic problems?"
[Link: debramedina.us...]

179 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:37:06pm

re: #172 MandyManners

Paulian.

Crap

180 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:37:30pm

re: #173 avanti

I just checked, most are in the $250 and up range, some much more. I got the 565 and I think they are under $300. The nice thing is I can have it vacuum every day by just detting the timer. It's also great entertainment if you have cats.

someone posted a vid of a cat riding one...pretty funny

181 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:38:11pm

re: #173 avanti

Thanks for checking avanti.

182 formercorpsman  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:38:20pm

re: #159 Killgore Trout

Yes, I can imagine them colonizing Mars right now.

P32 Space modulator.

183 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:39:15pm

Mandy's been doing her Paulian homework.

184 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:41:34pm

re: #172 MandyManners

Paulian.

I'll trust you on your declaration (you be smarter), but where do I find the evidence?

185 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:43:05pm

re: #183 Sharmuta

Mandy's been doing her Paulian homework.

Jaunte's No. 126.

186 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:43:57pm

And, Juante's No. 178.

187 Gus  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:44:01pm

Welcome, Texans for Debra Medina

Location
Austin, TX
Meetups
30 so far
Members
157 Texans
Rating

Meetup topics

Republican Party, Democratic Party, Libertarian, Ron Paul Campaigns

Debra is a true conservative and has been active in the Republican Party for 17 years. She has been married to her husband Noe for 26 years, and they have homeschooled and raised two children into responsible adults. Currently she is the Wharton County Republican Party Chair and is the Texas State Coordinator for Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty. Debra is also the founder and CEO of Prudentia Inc., a medical consulting firm.

188 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:45:02pm

re: #176 Sharmuta

A back-up choir singing Dona Nobis Pacem would have really driven that home.

Is that what the tune is? I didn't recognize it.

189 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:45:02pm

re: #182 formercorpsman

Yes, I can imagine them colonizing Mars right now.

P32 Space modulator.

Capricorn One

190 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:45:25pm

re: #186 MandyManners

She does really well in online polls too... ///

191 Danny  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:45:49pm

re: #170 Irenicum

The LaRouchies are seriously f-ed up people. That video is just bizarre!

I don't know...their initiative to make A=432 "Verdi tuning" standard in classical music seems reasonable enough.

/wtf

192 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:46:25pm

re: #187 Gus 802

Welcome, Texans for Debra Medina

Location
Austin, TX
Meetups
30 so far
Members
157 Texans
Rating

Meetup topics

Republican Party, Democratic Party, Libertarian, Ron Paul Campaigns

Well shit, just shit.

Hi Kay, you got my vote.

193 OldLineTexan  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:46:43pm

re: #191 Danny

I don't know...their initiative to make A=432 "Verdi tuning" standard in classical music seems reasonable enough.

/wtf

440 or fight, I always say

/

194 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:46:59pm
Currently she is the Wharton County Republican Party Chair and is the Texas State Coordinator for Ron Paul's Campaign for Liberty.

"There will come a time when you must make a choice. Now is that time."

195 OldLineTexan  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:47:45pm

re: #192 The Shadow Do

Well shit, just shit.

Hi Kay, you got my vote.

Maybe she can run against the Dem who drove around the state in his old pick-up truck to the continual delight of the media.

196 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:47:55pm

The Larouchians made my brain hurt. I gotta go blow stuff up in a video game until this passes. BBL

197 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:48:05pm

re: #185 MandyManners

That doesn't surprise me. Jaunte's the Man.

198 formercorpsman  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:48:25pm

re: #189 SteveC

Looking at that cast, I think you're dead on.

199 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:48:32pm

re: #88 Charles

I played with several of the musicians on that stage -- sometimes publicly, sometimes not.

This gives me an idea for a question addressed to all Lizards:

"who is your most famous friend or acquaintance?"

200 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:48:43pm

re: #194 SteveC

"There will come a time when you must make a choice. Now is that time."

a tell tale sign of things to come nationwide...

201 Danny  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:49:33pm

re: #193 OldLineTexan

440 or fight, I always say

/

But think of how much better Jessica Simpson's singing would sound!

202 OldLineTexan  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:50:04pm

re: #201 Danny

But think of how much better Jessica Simpson's singing would sound!

She sings? Frankly, I had not noticed.

/

204 jaunte  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:50:42pm

re: #197 Sharmuta

Ha. Today I am the man who has gotten behind in his lizard-drawing.

205 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:50:46pm

Good night Lizards. Happy posting all.

206 Shug  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:50:51pm

re: #166 Killgore Trout

Get a load of this guy...
LaRouche PAC Demonstration Bear Stearns N.Y.




He looks like a mentally ill Mouseketeer

207 Danny  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:50:53pm

re: #202 OldLineTexan

Don't listen to her videos then.

208 pink freud  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:52:25pm

re: #192 The Shadow Do

Well shit, just shit.

Hi Kay, you got my vote.

The exuberance on the Ron Paul forums is freaky, as expected. Talk of money bombs, "we've finally got our candidate!", etc.

209 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:55:33pm

re: #208 pink freud

The exuberance on the Ron Paul forums is freaky, as expected. Talk of money bombs, "we've finally got our candidate!", etc.

Oh, hell. Those Paulians pass the hat, they're liable to raise $1.65!

210 jaunte  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:55:48pm

re: #208 pink freud

Medina's suggestion on educational issues is to push as much authority as possible down to the district level. This may have a beneficial effect on easing the hiring and firing of teachers, but not such a good effect on the curriculum if the Discovery Institute folks begin supplying teaching materials for science classes.

211 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:55:57pm

re: #204 jaunte

Ha. Today I am the man who has gotten behind in his lizard-drawing.

I'm just glad Typo Day is almost over.

212 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:56:07pm

re: #195 OldLineTexan

Maybe she can run against the Dem who drove around the state in his old pick-up truck to the continual delight of the media.

My only hope is that she will give up that 19th century wardrobe for a 21st century makeover.
Then I'll be fine with it.
Wonder how she looks in shorts?

213 itellu3times  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:56:08pm

re: #199 _RememberTonyC

This gives me an idea for a question addressed to all Lizards:

"who is your most famous friend or acquaintance?"

Ha. Basically, nobody.

I can play six degrees of separation and get places, tho.

214 jaunte  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:56:26pm

re: #211 Sharmuta

Me tew.

215 Gus  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:57:49pm

She's into the Fed conspiwacy:

Federal Reserve Rally-The Beginning of the End?
November 14, 2008

Next Saturday, Nov. 22, ninety-eight years after the inception of the Federal Reserve system as we know it today, Texans will have the opportunity to learn more about the underlying cause of our current world-wide economic crisis: central banking. Activists all around the country will rally at Federal Reserve Banks to call for a return to sound money and an end of the central banking cartel.

Debra Medina

216 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:58:45pm

re: #199 _RememberTonyC

My 4 kids and 3 grandkids!

217 pink freud  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:59:16pm

re: #210 jaunte

From RP forums, quoted from the "Meet-up" email:

"While the Republican Party has tried to marginalize Ron Paul for years, Debra has been a strong supporter of Dr. Paul. She is currently the State Coordinator for the Campaign for Liberty. Debra has helped form a group called Operation Come and Take It, to build not only support for the idea of liberty, but to educate supporters on the Fundamentals of Liberty needed in order to effectively share this message with others. Debra has established her own educational organization called, Ambassadors Institute, which also offers instruction in the Constitution and the Fundamentals of Liberty. Debra brings not only her political skills with her, but also business and management skills. Debra is a nurse by training and has run her own business for 7 years. She and her husband Noe Medina have a grown daughter Janise and a son Jacob, who is a sophomore at Blinn/Texas A&M. Debra is a native of Texas and a 20 resident of Wharton, TX. Debra is very proud of her heritage as a member of the Daughters of the American Revolution. She is also eligible for membership in the Daughters of the Texas Revolution. Now, she is willing to be part of the current Revolution, to return government to the people of Texas!

When we asked her if she would consider running as the "people's candidate" for Governor, she was shocked and a bit overcome. She stammered, "I have never thought about anything like this." We assured her that was part of her appeal. We are all tired of people who have spent their life time positioning themselves and cutting deals, so one day they would be "anointed" to office. We are asking her to serve the people. Understandably she said she would need to give it some serious thought and discuss it with her family. She immediately acknowledged that her plate is very full. Her daughter getting married in April, as well as her commitments for the Campaign for Liberty and to the Republican Party. However she did not give us a definite "no." Indeed, she said she had spent her life trying to walk through the doors that were opened "where she could be of service to other."

While Debra has been considering what taking on such a challenge would mean to her and to her family, now she also needs to know that this is not just the request of a few individuals. She needs to know there is broad based support for a "peoples candidate" and for her personally as that candidate. So friends, THIS IS IT. THIS IS WHERE WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN."

218 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:59:42pm

re: #213 itellu3times

I met Buckminster Fuller in college & spent maybe 4 hours with him including lunch. Years ago now. I wen home and wrote down pages of notes right after.

219 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 7:59:49pm

re: #209 SteveC

Oh, hell. Those Paulians pass the hat, they're liable to raise $1.65!

think so?...looks to me like Rocket Ron has some mojo...can they split the GOP?...will they align with the creationists and nirthers?...that's a lot a votes

220 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:00:25pm

re: #218 Ojoe

"went" home PIMF

221 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:00:54pm

re: #213 itellu3times

Ha. Basically, nobody.

I can play six degrees of separation and get places, tho.

that's good enough ... I'm friendly with someone who is good friends with George W. Bush ...

222 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:01:01pm

re: #217 pink freud

OH!

223 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:01:39pm

re: #216 NY Nana

My 4 kids and 3 grandkids!

I'm sure they say the same thing about you :)

224 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:02:32pm

re: #218 Ojoe

I met Buckminster Fuller in college & spent maybe 4 hours with him including lunch. Years ago now. I wen home and wrote down pages of notes right after.

my landlord was a good friend of Bucky's...helped him build the Dome back then...small world

225 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:03:38pm

re: #199 _RememberTonyC

"who is your most famous friend or acquaintance?"

When I was 11, I had heart surgery at the University of Alabama-Birmingham. We met a Methodist minister and his wife who became close friends of the family.

I was visiting them a few years later, when the preacher kicked me out of bed. Get up, today is a surprise, get ready. We'll be gone all day.

We drove to Tuscaloosa and he introduced me to Paul Bryant.

That was June. Bryant died the following January.

226 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:03:46pm

re: #218 Ojoe

I met Buckminster Fuller in college & spent maybe 4 hours with him including lunch. Years ago now. I wen home and wrote down pages of notes right after.

cool

227 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:04:17pm

re: #225 SteveC

When I was 11, I had heart surgery at the University of Alabama-Birmingham. We met a Methodist minister and his wife who became close friends of the family.

I was visiting them a few years later, when the preacher kicked me out of bed. Get up, today is a surprise, get ready. We'll be gone all day.

We drove to Tuscaloosa and he introduced me to Paul Bryant.

That was June. Bryant died the following January.


The BEAR ... excellent

228 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:04:20pm

The Kid's finally in bed so it's time for me to brush my pearly whites and become horizontal and unconscious.

229 swamprat  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:04:21pm

re: #184 The Shadow Do

I'll trust you on your declaration (you be smarter), but where do I find the evidence?


Youtube Video
230 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:04:47pm

Watching PBS - Motown Legends
Dianna Ross...Damn, damn, damn...
Woof!

231 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:04:59pm

re: #224 albusteve

IMHO Fuller is right up there with Leonardo, only a notch below, and that only because Bucky didn't do any fine art.

Good night all.

232 pink freud  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:05:22pm

Goodnight Mandy, Ojoe.

233 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:06:13pm

re: #228 MandyManners

The Kid's finally in bed so it's time for me to brush my pearly whites and become horizontal and unconscious.

sweet dreams Ms Manners!

234 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:06:43pm

Howdy!

File this one under "what media bias?":

An AP "news" story helpfully informs us...

Obama wants honest health care debate

Not that he says he does, or claims he does... he just does. It's a fact!

235 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:07:14pm

It's been about 4 hours since I put the pork shoulder on the smoker and despite the rain, the temp has stayed at a steadt 250. Perfect temp for pulled pork. Should be ready in another 8 hours or so. But I'm still not ready for to go to bed and leave it alone.

236 jamgarr  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:07:29pm

Me, not so much - but my daughter is a professional modern dancer and knows/ has met alot of top tier people in that world.

237 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:08:08pm

My world is empty without you babe..

238 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:09:52pm

re: #226 _RememberTonyC

A tensegrity arch. Tensegrity is an invention of Bucky Fuller.

Well good night again.

239 swamprat  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:10:52pm

re: #237 The Shadow Do

Youtube Video

good link

240 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:11:16pm

Try, try again

Youtube Video
241 Jack Burton  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:11:23pm

re: #215 Gus 802

She's into the Fed conspiwacy:

Federal Reserve Rally-The Beginning of the End?
November 14, 2008

Debra Medina

"Sound Money" is a dead give away. It's Paulistinan code-speak for the gold standard.

242 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:12:36pm

re: #223 _RememberTonyC

I'm sure they say the same thing about you :)

Ha! They all tease me about what I do. They are cruel, I tell you! ;)

Watch out, California! The 9 year old granddaughter is now in Palm Springs with my son and daughter in law...(DIL is there for a business conference). The 9 year old is a comedian, who still giggles at her own jokes, and a singer. DIL used to sing professionally, in the Catskills, to help with her college costs. I am a perfect monotone.

I wish I had a photo of all of them when I dare to sing! I have been forbidden to do anything but lip synch.

Cruel, I tell you! ;) Can't wait for her to tell us all about the trip!

243 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:12:47pm

re: #241 ArchangelMichael

"Sound Money" is a dead give away. It's Paulistinan code-speak for the gold standard.

he's coming on...

244 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:13:12pm

re: #241 ArchangelMichael

"Sound Money" is a dead give away. It's Paulistinan code-speak for the gold standard.

Hello? May I speak to G. Gordon Liddy, please? Mr. Liddy? How fast can you get me some of that gold I see you selling on TV?

245 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:13:42pm

So did you hear that Apple is launching a version of iTunes specially tailored for the southern Afghanistan market?

It's called PashTunes.

246 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:13:52pm

re: #228 MandyManners

Sweet dreams, Mandy!

247 jamgarr  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:15:10pm

re: #245 Occasional Reader

So did you hear that Apple is launching a version of iTunes specially tailored for the southern Afghanistan market?

It's called PashTunes.


I thought that name was copywrited property of Mrs. Beckham

248 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:15:24pm

If y'all keep ignoring me, I'm gonna start banging my spoon on my high chair. Watch and see if I don't.

249 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:15:29pm

re: #243 albusteve

he's coming on...

And I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh lord
Ive been waiting for this moment for all my life, oh lord
I can feel it in the air tonight, oh lord, oh lord
And Ive been waiting for this moment all my life, oh lord, oh lord

250 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:16:08pm

re: #248 Occasional Reader

If y'all keep ignoring me, I'm gonna start banging my spoon on my high chair. Watch and see if I don't.

Ya'll hear somthin'?

251 jamgarr  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:16:27pm

What am I, chopped liver?

252 Danny  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:16:42pm

re: #250 SteveC

Ya'll hear somthin'?

:fingers in ears: la-la-la-la-la-la-la!!!

253 jamgarr  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:17:21pm

In fact, I was setting you up for the kill!

254 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:17:25pm

re: #251 jamgarr

What am I, chopped liver?

That's what I'm being served on my high chair at the moment, in fact.

255 UncleRancher  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:17:26pm

re: #251 jamgarr

What am I, chopped liver?

Whassa matta with chopped livah?

256 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:18:47pm

re: #254 Occasional Reader

That's what I'm being served on my high chair at the moment, in fact.

That would make me bang my spoon, too! Carry on!

257 Shug  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:19:04pm

re: #199 _RememberTonyC

This gives me an idea for a question addressed to all Lizards:

"who is your most famous friend or acquaintance?"

Realwest

258 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:20:15pm

Marine presses Democrat over ObamaCare

259 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:21:08pm

re: #249 SteveC

And I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh lord
Ive been waiting for this moment for all my life, oh lord
I can feel it in the air tonight, oh lord, oh lord
And Ive been waiting for this moment all my life, oh lord, oh lord

oh Paul
oh Paul...
looks like he may have some significant numbers behind him in 2012...will you vote for the same candidate he endorses?...hypothetically?...better get used to him eh?

260 Gus  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:22:04pm

Site's acting strange. Doesn't finish loading and takes a while to even log-in.

261 jamgarr  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:22:42pm

re: #253 jamgarr

In fact, I was setting you up for the kill!


OK - if you won't ask, I'll tell you anyway.

Your response - "No, that's PoshTunes!"

262 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:23:22pm

re: #257 Shug

Realwest

keepin' it "real?"

263 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:23:45pm

re: #261 jamgarr

OK - if you won't ask, I'll tell you anyway.

Your response - "No, that's PoshTunes!"

See, by explaining the pun, you ruin it.

We need to send you to Buzzsawmonkey's Boot Camp, stat.

264 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:23:51pm

I am convinced that Dianna Ross did as much or more for race relations than MLK. I was a kid. She gave me the hots.

Not PC, don't care. 'tis true. So there.

265 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:24:16pm

re: #248 Occasional Reader

If y'all keep ignoring me, I'm gonna start banging my spoon on my high chair. Watch and see if I don't.

how's it going?

266 jamgarr  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:24:29pm

re: #263 Occasional Reader

See, by explaining the pun, you ruin it.

We need to send you to Buzzsawmonkey's Boot Camp, stat.

Guess you don't like the gratuitous set-ups. OK.

267 Occasional Reader  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:26:00pm

Buenas noches. A demain.

268 UncleRancher  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:26:03pm

re: #258 solomonpanting

Marine presses Democrat over ObamaCare

To the marine, a hearty "Well Done"!!!

269 David Simon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:28:03pm

re: #234 Occasional Reader

Howdy!

File this one under "what media bias?":

An AP "news" story helpfully informs us...

Obama wants honest health care debate

Not that he says he does, or claims he does... he just does. It's a fact!

From your link:

President Barack Obama is challenging critics of his push to overhaul the health care system to stop making "phony claims" about proposals now the subject of intense coast-to-coast debate.

He has a point. Now, will he "challenge" himself to do likewise?

270 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:28:12pm

re: #259 albusteve

oh Paul
oh Paul...
looks like he may have some significant numbers behind him in 2012...will you vote for the same candidate he endorses?...hypothetically?...better get used to him eh?

My bad. I didn't properly deploy the Sarcasm-meter on that one. I am not a Paulian, Ronulan, or whatever the hell they are calling themselves this week.

271 sngnsgt  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:28:39pm

re: #248 Occasional Reader

Be careful you don't knock your Tommy-tippie cup on the floor...

272 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:31:02pm

re: #271 sngnsgt

Be careful you don't knock your Tommy-tippie cup on the floor...

When she was one, my niece wanted either "pepi" or "spite" - nothing else. I had a bottle of ginger ale, but she kept pointing at it and saying "Spite!"

So I put some in her sippy cup. The look on her face was priceless!

273 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:32:33pm

re: #270 SteveC

My bad. I didn't properly deploy the Sarcasm-meter on that one. I am not a Paulian, Ronulan, or whatever the hell they are calling themselves this week.

you didn't have to and I know you are not a Paulian...my question is, and has been for months, now what?...what's his affect on the GOP and along with the nirthers ans extremists, how does that work out for Republicans?...I don't get any responses..the thought of rubbing voting elbows with Ron and the other freaks kinda puts people off...the GOP needs these votes don't they?

274 sngnsgt  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:33:33pm

re: #272 SteveC

When she was one, my niece wanted either "pepi" or "spite" - nothing else. I had a bottle of ginger ale, but she kept pointing at it and saying "Spite!"

So I put some in her sippy cup. The look on her face was priceless!

LOL!

275 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:33:56pm

Kiddies bathed and in bed.

A little preseason football, a Stone IPA, and hanging out.

What's up?

276 charlesincharge  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:35:43pm

Semper Fi and so am I.

Youtube Video
277 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:37:37pm

re: #199 _RememberTonyC

I spent a winter at Arcosanti, with Paolo Soleri, long, long ago...
[Link: www.arcosanti.org...]

278 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:39:46pm

re: #199 _RememberTonyC

This gives me an idea for a question addressed to all Lizards:

"who is your most famous friend or acquaintance?"

okay...I admit to hanging out with Richie Hayward many's the time...for years

279 jamgarr  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:39:53pm

re: #277 Floral Giraffe

I spent a winter at Arcosanti, with Paolo Soleri, long, long ago...
[Link: www.arcosanti.org...]


Looks cool. Are you an architect?

280 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:43:37pm

re: #279 jamgarr

Nope, not an architect. Thought I wanted to be one once upon a time.
The bells they make are the BEST! They are situated on a canyon, in the middle of Arizona, and it is HOT. THe hillsides are planted with olive trees for shade, and hung with Soleri bells. So, the first breeze of the evening is heralded with the music of the bells. A promise of cooling.

281 jamgarr  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:44:30pm

re: #280 Floral Giraffe

Nice.

282 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:45:56pm

are all the Sat Nite threads this slow?...used to be a whoopin party

283 jamgarr  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:46:57pm

re: #282 albusteve

are all the Sat Nite threads this slow?...used to be a whoopin party

I'm not here very often at this time, but I was wondering the same thing.

284 jamgarr  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:48:08pm

Gonna leave you to it Steve - good luck

285 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:48:26pm

re: #283 jamgarr

I'm not here very often at this time, but I was wondering the same thing.

I'm mostly mornings and late afternoons now...weekends used to rock...things change I guess

286 BlueCanuck  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:48:29pm

re: #282 albusteve

I think people are still resting after all the venting from earlier.

287 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:48:31pm

re: #283 jamgarr

It depends. Today was kinda a slow news day.

288 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:50:12pm

re: #286 BlueCanuck

I think people are still resting after all the venting from earlier.

Yep, there was a real shootout earlier. CSI: Lizard is still on the scene.

/I'll know more when we get back to the lab.

289 sngnsgt  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:50:29pm

re: #286 BlueCanuck

What did I miss, I've been out all day... A few heads exploding?

290 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:50:51pm

Hey Kilgore--

Have a need for one of these?

291 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:51:10pm

Interesting who you find hanging out at stalker blogs these days.

292 BlueCanuck  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:51:15pm

re: #289 sngnsgt

Usual health care debating going on. A few other sacred cows were gored as well.

293 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:51:29pm

re: #282 albusteve

are all the Sat Nite threads this slow?...used to be a whoopin party

Not much money for parties these days. My commission is way down from last month. Today went well though, and most of my quotas are being met. So I'll raise a soda bottle for a toast if you want.

294 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:52:11pm

re: #268 UncleRancher

To the marine, a hearty "Well Done"!!!

I've been ignoring that clip all day. Finally watched, all I have to say is "ugh". I know this is what gets conservatives fired up these days but it does nothing for me.

295 sngnsgt  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:52:33pm

re: #292 BlueCanuck

Ahhh, that ol' thing...

296 yochanan  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:52:38pm

good nite lizards i just stopped in to see what my condition my condition was in

297 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:52:40pm

re: #291 Charles

Interesting who you find hanging out at stalker blogs these days.

Who did you find there, Charles. Don't tell me we have another backstabber. People like that really trip my trigger.

298 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:53:02pm

re: #293 Dark_Falcon

Not much money for parties these days. My commission is way down from last month. Today went well though, and most of my quotas are being met. So I'll raise a soda bottle for a toast if you want.

SODA!...SALUTE!

299 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:53:18pm

re: #296 yochanan

Sweet dreams, Yochanan!

300 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:53:53pm

re: #289 sngnsgt

What did I miss, I've been out all day... A few heads exploding?

Troll tried to play funny and Charles gunned him down - 3500 yards with a slight crosswind, drilled him right between the eyes. I was so close I got splattered by troll brains. We scooped up the chunks and had a Troll-B-Que, I think there is some brisket in the fridge.

301 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:54:12pm

re: #291 Charles

Interesting who you find hanging out at stalker blogs these days.

Don't keep us in suspense.

302 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:54:43pm

re: #300 SteveC

Troll tried to play funny and Charles gunned him down - 3500 yards with a slight crosswind, drilled him right between the eyes. I was so close I got splattered by troll brains. We scooped up the chunks and had a Troll-B-Que, I think there is some brisket in the fridge.

What thread was the meltdown on?

303 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:54:50pm

re: #290 solomonpanting

I love Japanese steel. My chisels and some of my knives are Japanese. All of my saws are Japanese. Gouges are tough tools to deal with and very difficult to sharpen. The Japanese steel is just too brittle. Swiss or German is my recommendation for gouges.

304 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:54:57pm

re: #291 Charles

Were you wearing a hazmat suit?

305 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:55:55pm

I read "The Siege" by Stephen White. It was a great, suspenseful thriller until the end, which was lame, lame, LAME. No, it was worse than lame, it was absolute bullshit. Avoid this piece of crap novel.

306 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:56:14pm

re: #302 Dark_Falcon

What thread was the meltdown on?

Just above - look for the deleted comments above comment 30. It was a quick one. Troll showed himself and BANG.

Game over.

307 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:57:27pm

re: #305 Alouette

Tell us what you really feel!

308 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:58:47pm

re: #282 albusteve

are all the Sat Nite threads this slow?...used to be a whoopin party

I thought when I compared Dianna Ross to MLK I'd get some action, but nooo...

Where did our love go?

Youtube Video
309 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:58:48pm

re: #303 Killgore Trout

I love Japanese steel. My chisels and some of my knives are Japanese. All of my saws are Japanese. Gouges are tough tools to deal with and very difficult to sharpen. The Japanese steel is just too brittle. Swiss or German is my recommendation for gouges.

gouges require some exotic jigs don't they?...I don't know myself but can imagine the difficulties involved

310 Vicious Babushka  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 8:59:26pm

Don't you just hate to read a good book and the ending is utter crap? That reminds me again how much I hated Cold Mountain.

311 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:01:01pm

re: #303 Killgore Trout

I know what you mean about the brittleness of Japanese steel. I seem to be constantly removing nicks. But when they're sharp one can shave with them. Just for my own edification, I test a sharpened chisel by shaving a bit of the hair on my arm.

312 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:01:02pm

re: #306 SteveC

Just above - look for the deleted comments above comment 30. It was a quick one. Troll showed himself and BANG.

Game over.

Charles shows trolls no mercy. Once they spew their bile he clubs them with the Ban Stick. Usually the spray of troll brains isn't too bad though, since trolls tend to have small brains.

313 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:01:28pm

re: #308 The Shadow Do

I thought when I compared Dianna Ross to MLK I'd get some action, but nooo...

Where did our love go?

[Video]

I got the Supremes pounded into my head back then...I was very much into the Temptations, but they didn't arouse me so I let it go...the Temps were flat out awsome

Youtube Video
314 Jack Burton  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:01:54pm

re: #306 SteveC

Just above - look for the deleted comments above comment 30. It was a quick one. Troll showed himself and BANG.

Game over.

A meltdown on a music thread makes for a sad Panda.

315 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:01:54pm

re: #303 Killgore Trout

Have you looked at any Japanese Bonsai tools?
I adore my steel scissors! Even though they're not used for Bonsai.

316 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:02:28pm

Good evening y'all - hope everyone's doing well tonight!
Are we still talking about music?

317 sngnsgt  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:02:44pm

Now that I'm back in Vegas, I gotta' try this. This is a family friend's niece:

Youtube Video
318 Jack Burton  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:03:00pm

re: #310 Alouette

Don't you just hate to read a good book and the ending is utter crap? That reminds me again how much I hated Cold Mountain.

At least in your case it wasn't an entire series that was good then totally turns to crap at the end. I hate that "I've wasted X months/years with thing" feeling.

319 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:03:17pm

re: #311 solomonpanting

I know what you mean about the brittleness of Japanese steel. I seem to be constantly removing nicks. But when they're sharp one can shave with them. Just for my own edification, I test a sharpened chisel by shaving a bit of the hair on my arm.

Not the first time Japan has had problems with brittle steel. The Japanese super-battleships Yamato and Musashi had serious problems with the heat-treatment of their massive armor plates. As a result their protection was at least 10% less than it should have been.

320 Last Mohican  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:03:46pm

re: #306 SteveC

Just above - look for the deleted comments above comment 30. It was a quick one. Troll showed himself and BANG.

Game over.

It's a mess up there. That's a lot of carnage for a Saturday Night Music Thread.

321 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:04:36pm

re: #313 albusteve

I got the Supremes pounded into my head back then...I was very much into the Temptations, but they didn't arouse me so I let it go...the Temps were flat out awsome


[Video]

excuse the vid...not the point

322 Racer X  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:05:03pm

The burnt flesh produced on the back yard man-grill was excellent today. Liquid refreshment hit the spot and washed it all down. Pool was a little cold. Otherwise today was a perfect day.

[Tri-tip and Dos Equis]

323 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:05:28pm

I just checked the stalker blog. Having been punted by Charles, coldwarrior has taken up his abode in Rodan's diseased premises.

324 Racer X  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:06:10pm

re: #323 Dark_Falcon

My vote is we ignore them completely.

325 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:06:21pm

re: #322 Racer X

The burnt flesh produced on the back yard man-grill was excellent today. Liquid refreshment hit the spot and washed it all down. Pool was a little cold. Otherwise today was a perfect day.

[Tri-tip and Dos Equis]

pool was cold?...get the f*^#%^&&& outa here!...it was 98 gain in ABQ...2 months in a row

326 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:06:28pm

re: #315 Floral Giraffe

Have you looked at any Japanese Bonsai tools?
I adore my steel scissors! Even though they're not used for Bonsai.



I bought pruning shears for my wife about ten years ago and they're still sharp. They cut like going through budda.

327 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:06:54pm

re: #323 Dark_Falcon

Do you feel OK? Hope you won't have nightmares!

328 Racer X  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:07:28pm

Giant Cluster Bends, Breaks Images

329 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:07:59pm

re: #324 Racer X

My vote is we ignore them completely.

I agree...at least so far as to not reverse stalk them

330 Racer X  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:08:10pm

re: #325 albusteve

pool was cold?...get the f*^#%^&&& outa here!...it was 98 gain in ABQ...2 months in a row

SoCal - pool was only 76. Normally about 84 this time of year.

331 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:08:20pm

re: #316 realwest

Good evening y'all - hope everyone's doing well tonight!
Are we still talking about music?

RW!

Welcome back, how was dinner.

I got the munckins bathed and in bed...

332 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:09:07pm

re: #321 albusteve
Hi Steve - yes the Temptations were flat out awesome!
An LGFer - infrequent poster but avid reader and a great meat world friend of mine just sent me to a phenomial site called Ckuik.com - I'd never heard of it before and I can't think of a musician who isn't there somewhere, where you can watch YouTube Videos and where they have whatever CD's are available for sale.
How are you tonight?

333 Racer X  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:09:51pm

Really diggin the tunes.

Thanks Charles!

334 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:09:53pm

re: #323 Dark_Falcon
Who the hell was coldwarrior?

335 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:10:02pm

re: #327 NY Nana

Do you feel OK? Hope you won't have nightmares!

I'm fine. I sparred with Rodan yesterday on Defenseman's blog. Compared to that, a quick glace at the stalkers is breath-of-spring.

336 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:10:10pm

re: #313 albusteve

I got the Supremes pounded into my head back then...I was very much into the Temptations, but they didn't arouse me so I let it go...the Temps were flat out awsome



Uh, interesting

337 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:10:26pm

re: #330 Racer X

SoCal - pool was only 76. Normally about 84 this time of year.

gosh, I'm sorry for that...actually I used to visit Jamaica in the summer sometimes and the sea was as warm as the air...kinda creepy feeling when there is zero refreshment factor...pools were a bit cooler

338 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:10:27pm

re: #309 albusteve

gouges require some exotic jigs don't they?...I don't know myself but can imagine the difficulties involved


There are fancy gizmos you can you to sharpen them. I do it free hand but it takes a lot of patience to learn.

339 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:11:07pm

re: #334 realwest

Who the hell was coldwarrior?

I guy who got banned from here. His avatar is a Berlin Brigade patch. I respect and honor his service to our nation but he was hostile and snarky.

340 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:11:58pm

re: #315 Floral Giraffe

Have you looked at any Japanese Bonsai tools?
I adore my steel scissors! Even though they're not used for Bonsai.

Japanese scissors are excellent. I use them in my shop, in the kitchen and on my bonsai too.

341 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:12:14pm

re: #331 jcm
Hi jcm! Dinner was fine thank you and mom and I got to watch the Science Channel that had an hour long special on Hurricanes that was truly well done and very impressive!
Glad y'all got the munchkins bathed and to bed! How are you tonight?

342 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:12:18pm

re: #332 realwest

Hi Steve - yes the Temptations were flat out awesome!
An LGFer - infrequent poster but avid reader and a great meat world friend of mine just sent me to a phenomial site called Ckuik.com - I'd never heard of it before and I can't think of a musician who isn't there somewhere, where you can watch YouTube Videos and where they have whatever CD's are available for sale.
How are you tonight?

jolly well amigo, and you?...I noted the web page and will check it out...thanks, I'm always on the prowl for that sort of thing

343 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:13:03pm

re: #335 Dark_Falcon

I'm fine. I sparred with Rodan yesterday on Defenseman's blog. Compared to that, a quick glace at the stalkers is breath-of-spring.

Rodan? Feh! Was savage the psychopath there? I haven't looked for quite awhile.

Defenseman is in my favorites. I agree with you. I have to look...you must have sliced and diced him.

344 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:13:07pm

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

A guy who got banned from here. His avatar is a Berlin Brigade patch. I respect and honor his service to our nation but he was hostile and snarky.

PIMF

345 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:13:15pm

re: #341 realwest

Hi jcm! Dinner was fine thank you and mom and I got to watch the Science Channel that had an hour long special on Hurricanes that was truly well done and very impressive!
Glad y'all got the munchkins bathed and to bed! How are you tonight?

Some pre-season football, a beer and pile of laundry to fold. Couldn't be much better.

346 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:13:44pm

re: #339 Dark_Falcon

I guy who got banned from here. His avatar is a Berlin Brigade patch. I respect and honor his service to our nation but he was hostile and snarky.

Oh yeah, I remember the avatar and the snarkiness now - how long ago was he given the boot?

347 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:13:57pm

re: #278 albusteve

okay...I admit to hanging out with Richie Hayward many's the time...for years

I spent three hours drinking with OJ Simpson at the 1992 Olympics in Spain ... it was in the bar at the hotel we were both staying at while working for NBC ... he had sex with 3 different women in about 3 hours. they just joined our drinking circle, went up to his room with him, and then OJ came back alone ... 3 different times! Impressive to say the least.

348 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:14:25pm

re: #336 The Shadow Do

Uh, interesting

a hip shot...the vid was not cool

349 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:15:12pm

re: #343 NY Nana

Rodan? Feh! Was savage the psychopath there? I haven't looked for quite awhile.

Defenseman is in my favorites. I agree with you. I have to look...you must have sliced and diced him.

No, I did some damage but that guy has a Obtuseness Shield that is very hard to punch through. Logic Lasers have no effect on him, you have to use Reason Torpedoes.

350 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:15:31pm

re: #311 solomonpanting

I test a sharpened chisel by shaving a bit of the hair on my arm.


You can always spot a good woodworker from the bald spots on his arm.

351 SteveC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:15:44pm

Lizards, I am Bingo fuel! I'm taking her back to base, someone take my spot in the CAP.

352 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:17:10pm

re: #342 albusteve I'm doing just great thanks. Friend sent me to that site for some stuff on Stephen Stills and I saw him accompanying Judy Collins on Graham Nash's TV show (musta been one of the BBC's better series!) and that lead me to another Judy Collins vid and they were both songs I'd recorded with two friends of mine back in the day - as a demo so I'm just floating on air remembering those times!

353 OldLineTexan  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:17:53pm

re: #350 Killgore Trout

You can always spot a good woodworker from the bald spots on his arm.

I count fingers.

/

354 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:17:54pm

re: #347 _RememberTonyC

I spent three hours drinking with OJ Simpson at the 1992 Olympics in Spain ... it was in the bar at the hotel we were both staying at while working for NBC ... he had sex with 3 different women in about 3 hours. they just joined our drinking circle, went up to his room with him, and then OJ came back alone ... 3 different times! Impressive to say the least.

yowza!...I always liked him, til he crashed

355 jaunte  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:18:13pm

Any fans of semi-fictinal historical movies out there mght want to see this:
1612: Chronicles of the Dark Times. Someone posted 14 segments, the entire movie, on YouTube. A smerd falls in love with the to-be-empress Ksenia Godunov, winds up pulling a riverboat with other slaves, is bought by a Spanish mercenary who teaches him the sword and the use of artillery, takes on the identity of the fallen Spaniard and with his Tatar sidekick, builds a cannon and helps defend a town from the invading Poles, led by a would-be usurper.
Some funny moments, some incredibly bloody battle scenes, lots of winged Polish cavalry, some brief nudity, a Gandalf-like wise man of the woods, and strangely, too many scenes of a unicorn wandering in the woods.

356 Racer X  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:18:15pm

Want to order a pizza?

booga-booga-booga!

357 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:18:23pm

re: #352 realwest

I'm doing just great thanks. Friend sent me to that site for some stuff on Stephen Stills and I saw him accompanying Judy Collins on Graham Nash's TV show (musta been one of the BBC's better series!) and that lead me to another Judy Collins vid and they were both songs I'd recorded with two friends of mine back in the day - as a demo so I'm just floating on air remembering those times!

RW ... whassup?

358 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:18:48pm

re: #345 jcm

Some pre-season football, a beer and pile of laundry to fold. Couldn't be much better.

Ah the tranquility of domestic life! Really does sound like a fine way to spend an evening!

359 Jack Burton  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:19:15pm

re: #335 Dark_Falcon

I'm fine. I sparred with Rodan yesterday on Defenseman's blog. Compared to that, a quick glace at the stalkers is breath-of-spring.

After that contact did you go get yourself tested? Never know what you might pick up from them.

360 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:20:27pm

re: #354 albusteve

yowza!...I always liked him, til he crashed


OJ was incredibly friendly ... we had mutual friends at NBC ... I was also at the NBA Finals the night of the freeway chase in June 1994 ... remember the "double box" on NBC with OJ and the Knicks/Rockets game sharing the screen? There's another good story about that one too!

361 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:20:52pm

re: #358 realwest

Ah the tranquility of domestic life! Really does sound like a fine way to spend an evening!

Tranquility... you should be around when the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse are awake! ;-P

362 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:20:57pm

re: #352 realwest

I'm doing just great thanks. Friend sent me to that site for some stuff on Stephen Stills and I saw him accompanying Judy Collins on Graham Nash's TV show (musta been one of the BBC's better series!) and that lead me to another Judy Collins vid and they were both songs I'd recorded with two friends of mine back in the day - as a demo so I'm just floating on air remembering those times!

those "times" are when I grew up...confusing and exciting...lots of new stuff to deal with, some good and some bad...I was there, trailing behind you a bit...

363 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:21:54pm

re: #349 Dark_Falcon

Rodan is a worm, a nothing, a nobody. I know your heart is in the right place, but he thrives on attention. Perhaps its best to deprive him of what he craves.

364 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:22:17pm

re: #359 ArchangelMichael

After that contact did you go get yourself tested? Never know what you might pick up from them.

I had my NBC gear on with a closed supply of non-fevered air. I'll be fine.

365 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:22:44pm

re: #357 _RememberTonyC
Hey there RTC! Just as I said, I'm walking on air, but have favorited Charles music above, so I can play it at the volume it deserves (yeah - I know, one of these days I'm gonna get some great headphones but mom's asleep and I can't play it now!).
How are y'all doing?

366 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:23:17pm

re: #360 _RememberTonyC

OJ was incredibly friendly ... we had mutual friends at NBC ... I was also at the NBA Finals the night of the freeway chase in June 1994 ... remember the "double box" on NBC with OJ and the Knicks/Rockets game sharing the screen? There's another good story about that one too!

I remember the slow chase well...just an incredible story when I sat down and listened to the whole scenario...astounding

367 BlueCanuck  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:23:35pm

re: #356 Racer X

Want to order a pizza?

booga-booga-booga!

That's old. I think it came out in the start of the Bush era. :)

368 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:24:07pm

re: #365 realwest

Hey there RTC! Just as I said, I'm walking on air, but have favorited Charles music above, so I can play it at the volume it deserves (yeah - I know, one of these days I'm gonna get some great headphones but mom's asleep and I can't play it now!).
How are y'all doing?

doing great ... working late tonight but it's cool ... at least I'm off tomorrow :)

369 Last Mohican  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:24:09pm

re: #356 Racer X

Want to order a pizza?

booga-booga-booga!

Well that was interesting. I didn't notice until after I watched it that it came from the ACLU.

370 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:24:17pm

re: #360 _RememberTonyC
"There's another good story about that one too!" Hey c'mon man, no teasers here - tell it!

371 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:25:32pm

re: #361 jcm

Tranquility... you should be around when the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse are awake! ;-P

ROFL!! Hey what are their ages now and how many are you - can't remember the word - fostering? - now?

372 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:25:33pm

re: #363 MrPaulRevere

It's not much different than child psychology.

Youtube Video
373 Gus  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:25:43pm

re: #356 Racer X

Want to order a pizza?

booga-booga-booga!

Oh damn, I remember that stupidity. The Paulians really bought into it along with Alex Jones.

374 Racer X  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:26:36pm

re: #369 Last Mohican

Well that was interesting. I didn't notice until after I watched it that it came from the ACLU.

Yeah - like BC said it is old. I bet the ACLU is still right on that perceived threat to our privacy.

375 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:27:30pm

re: #362 albusteve

those "times" are when I grew up...confusing and exciting...lots of new stuff to deal with, some good and some bad...I was there, trailing behind you a bit...


Yeah, well I wouldn't have been hard to find - two years outta Vietnam...just follow the trail of Jim Beam bottles (preferred Jack D but money was...scarce!).
But a LOT of great times too.

376 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:28:12pm

re: #366 albusteve

I remember the slow chase well...just an incredible story when I sat down and listened to the whole scenario...astounding


Remember how OJ mentioned Ahmad Rashad in his statement that Robert Kardashian read to the media? How Ahmad was his pal? Well, Ahmad told us that night (when nobody really knew if OJ did it or not) that he "definitely did it because he was beating the shit out of Nicole for years."

377 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:29:53pm

re: #370 realwest

"There's another good story about that one too!" Hey c'mon man, no teasers here - tell it!

see #376

378 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:30:14pm

re: #375 realwest

Hi Realwest! Glad you're feeling fine!
*waves*

379 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:30:23pm

re: #368 _RememberTonyC
Working late?! Y'all call listening to fine music and enjoying some fine company out here on LGF work?! LOL!

380 OldLineTexan  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:30:37pm

re: #375 realwest

Yeah, well I wouldn't have been hard to find - two years outta Vietnam...just follow the trail of Jim Beam bottles (preferred Jack D but money was...scarce!).
But a LOT of great times too.

Lordy, I have loved some ladies
and I have loved Jim Beam
and they both tried to kill me
in 1973
when that doctor asked me
Son how did you get in this condition
I said hey sawbones I'm just carryin on
an old family tradition

/Hank Williams, Jr.

381 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:31:07pm

For Archie

382 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:31:11pm

re: #379 realwest

Working late?! Y'all call listening to fine music and enjoying some fine company out here on LGF work?! LOL!

no really ... I am at work! and visiting with you guys too

383 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:32:19pm

re: #376 _RememberTonyC

I love your stories, keep them coming!

384 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:33:14pm

re: #378 Floral Giraffe
Waives? What? Earlier it was hugs and smoochies!
Well, *smoochies* to you {Floral Giraffe}! How are you doing tonight?

385 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:34:14pm

re: #375 realwest

Yeah, well I wouldn't have been hard to find - two years outta Vietnam...just follow the trail of Jim Beam bottles (preferred Jack D but money was...scarce!).
But a LOT of great times too.

well that's history...we can find you other, more benign ways now :)

386 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:35:00pm

re: #380 OldLineTexan
Whoa! It actually was 1972 for me!
Course that and the Jim Beam is about all I have in common with Hank Williams, Jr.!

387 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:35:20pm

Speaking of kids- this one teaches how to parallel park!

388 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:35:40pm

re: #376 _RememberTonyC

Remember how OJ mentioned Ahmad Rashad in his statement that Robert Kardashian read to the media? How Ahmad was his pal? Well, Ahmad told us that night (when nobody really knew if OJ did it or not) that he "definitely did it because he was beating the shit out of Nicole for years."

spooky stuff...he jumped the shark no question, and left a lot of stunned people in his wake

389 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:36:30pm

re: #383 MrPaulRevere
What he said! Howdy MrPaulRevere! How are you doing this evening - er, early morning for me?

390 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:37:37pm

re: #385 albusteve

well that's history...we can find you other, more benign ways now :)


Well more benign sure, faster too - but no where near as much fun!

391 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:37:57pm

re: #384 realwest

LOL!
{Hugs} and *smoochies* back at'cha!

392 Silvergirl  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:38:35pm

re: #387 Sharmuta

Speaking of kids- this one teaches how to parallel park!

Way better than I can do!

393 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:38:54pm

re: #389 realwest

Doing well RW, thanks for asking, good to see you too!

394 avanti  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:39:17pm

The mid I sponsored, now a Ensign, just did his first carrier landing today with a E 2 , whoppie ! He's a Evangelical Christian so he must love his call sign "Almighty"

395 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:39:47pm

re: #335 Dark_Falcon

On my way to the vomitorium! You were great, and Irish Rose is also...there were some others from here that also told him off.

The rejects' posts reminded me of this:

Youtube Video
396 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:39:47pm

re: #387 Sharmuta
LOL! Hey thanks a lot for that one Shar - he doesn't teach so much as do it and with great aplomb, too!

397 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:39:52pm

re: #392 Silvergirl

Wasn't that something? I'm still chuckling.

398 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:39:52pm

re: #386 realwest

Whoa! It actually was 1972 for me!
Course that and the Jim Beam is about all I have in common with Hank Williams, Jr.!

interesting...my BinL was discharged in Jan. 1968...two tours and part of a third...totally different war I suppose

399 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:40:09pm

re: #387 Sharmuta

Speaking of kids- this one teaches how to parallel park!

And this is how the grown-ups do it.

400 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:40:47pm

re: #394 avanti

Is there a translator in the house?

401 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:41:06pm

re: #394 avanti

The mid I sponsored, now a Ensign, just did his first carrier landing today with a E 2 , whoppie ! He's a Evangelical Christian so he must love his call sign "Almighty"

Great news, avanti. Even retired from the Navy, you do your part and that part is more than most.

402 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:41:10pm

re: #371 realwest

ROFL!! Hey what are their ages now and how many are you - can't remember the word - fostering? - now?

The boys are 5 and 4, the girl almost 3. The foster girl is 11 months.

403 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:42:01pm

re: #390 realwest

Well more benign sure, faster too - but no where near as much fun!

is this you?...

Youtube Video
404 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:42:45pm

re: #400 MrPaulRevere

Is there a translator in the house?

mid = Midshipman (the title of those attending the US Naval Academy)

E2 Hawkeye: America's carrier-based AWACS plane.

405 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:43:05pm

re: #394 avanti Hey good evening avanti! Haven't seen you around for a few days -hope you're doing well.
And I think that's just perfect - than an evangelical pilot's call sign is "Almighty" - wonder if he picked it out himself?

406 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:43:25pm

hey Night Lizards! The Weather is quite nice tonite in Near Iowa. Allergies suck.

Had to sit take the kid to the new Quentin Tarantino movie tonite. Hubby and I were really looking forward to it, but left about an hour into it and sat outside the theatre and talked. Kid loved it. Perhaps we'll watch the last 1 1/2 hours on video. WAAAy to long to not have an intermission.

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

407 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:43:54pm

re: #404 Dark_Falcon

Thanks, on the fourth reading I understood.

408 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:44:05pm

re: #395 NY Nana

On my way to the vomitorium! You were great, and Irish Rose is also...there were some others from here that also told him off.

The rejects' posts reminded me of this:


LOL! Thanks.

409 Racer X  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:44:49pm

Noah's sons rode flying dinosaurs

410 avanti  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:45:13pm

re: #401 Dark_Falcon

Great news, avanti. Even retired from the Navy, you do your part and that part is more than most.

I know sponsor families still at it, that have Captains and Admirals around the world that started out as lowly plebs many years ago. The sponsor program is worth all the food they eat over the 4 years, you get a new son or daughter out of the deal.

411 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:45:24pm

re: #349 Dark_Falcon

Ya done good! They are such dim bulbs that they must need to carry flashlights.

412 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:45:46pm

re: #404 Dark_Falcon

Hey Dark Falcon! I signed-off last night before you posted about my trivia question. I have to say you know more about early japanese firearms than I do. I didn't even know that much when I found the picture (I was trying to find something else and found those).

Kinda kool looking--they are arquebuses (sp?) --I was hoping you could explain more.

413 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:45:58pm

re: #398 albusteve
Well, as I was Class of 70, yeah, totally different wars.
Good on him for getting out when he did (before Nixon took office under the pledge of withdrawing troops) - that did a whole lot for morale: "Hey, who wants to be the last American killed in Vietnam?!"

414 Silvergirl  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:46:14pm

re: #363 MrPaulRevere

Rodan is a worm, a nothing, a nobody. I know your heart is in the right place, but he thrives on attention. Perhaps its best to deprive him of what he craves.

I updinged that even though I know next to nothing about Rodan, other than the film star Rodan, nemesis and sometimes sidekick of Godzilla.

I followed the link that DF left yesterday and saw that it was an exchange with lots of "ANSWER MY QUESTION!" type demands from this Rodan person. So I knew enough to know that he is best avoided, and I would guess he probably does crave attention as MrPaulRevere said.

415 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:48:33pm

See, the problem with going to bed at 6pm... is that you wake up and feel like you have been asleep all night only to find out that it is midnight...

416 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:49:21pm

re: #402 jcm

The boys are 5 and 4, the girl almost 3. The foster girl is 11 months.


How long have you had that Foster girl jcm? Reckon she's gonna have to go to "family" or not?

417 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:49:33pm

re: #413 realwest

Well, as I was Class of 70, yeah, totally different wars.
Good on him for getting out when he did (before Nixon took office under the pledge of withdrawing troops) - that did a whole lot for morale: "Hey, who wants to be the last American killed in Vietnam?!"

yeah, that's what I was thinking...he got too sick or he would have stayed forever...last man out, chew on that

418 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:50:37pm

re: #408 Dark_Falcon

/They are't even that good!

You really are good...and I am so glad that you are on our side!

419 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:50:53pm

re: #403 albusteve
Well ...close! LOL. If y'all can consider about 10 mile away close!

420 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:52:22pm

re: #414 Silvergirl

He has a vicious personality and never really adds nothing to any policy debate other than hatred and bigotry.

421 avanti  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:53:24pm

re: #405 realwest

Hey good evening avanti! Haven't seen you around for a few days -hope you're doing well.
And I think that's just perfect - than an evangelical pilot's call sign is "Almighty" - wonder if he picked it out himself?

They submit a list, but I think he was assigned that one, since he's not shy about his faith. We had many a interesting conversation over the years about religion. BTW, I was at the casino for a few days, when I win, I tend to got back and play on part of the houses money.
If you have their money, they tend to give you lot's of goodies to get a shot at getting their money back. I met one high roller that was up a few 100K and he's flown around the country every month, and I typically only get 2-3 trips a year and even than, mine are off season, Lake Tahoe in August for example.

422 MrPaulRevere  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:53:41pm

re: #420 MrPaulRevere

PIMF: nothing=anything

423 pat  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:54:06pm

Here is something interesting. There were some today that commented on the anti-statehood demonstration by about 300 people in Hawaii. Yesterday was our statehood day. The demonstration and photos were centered around a woman who ceremoniously cut out the top star in the US flag and burned it. Frankly she did not look Hawaiian to me, in spite of the headlines. Likely she would to all of you or a national AP reporter, though. Anyway, I attempted to trace her ancestry. She is by all indicators, Greek-Korean. Just another left-wing poser.

424 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:54:10pm

re: #416 realwest

How long have you had that Foster girl jcm? Reckon she's gonna have to go to "family" or not?

She's been in the system since birth. Mom, just lost her visitation, failed to show for 3 visits. Current plan is to go her Grandmother, but we haven't heard anything definite.

425 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:54:57pm

re: #387 Sharmuta

LOL! I lived in a very high density part of LA for many years. We called it "parking by Braille". Bump into the cars ( gently, of course) until you get your car in the spot!

426 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:54:59pm

re: #412 ggt

Hey Dark Falcon! I signed-off last night before you posted about my trivia question. I have to say you know more about early japanese firearms than I do. I didn't even know that much when I found the picture (I was trying to find something else and found those).

Kinda kool looking--they are arquebuses (sp?) --I was hoping you could explain more.

They are indeed arquebuses. Japanese weapons of that type did not always have a shoulder stock, as they were often fired from a squatting position resembling the "rice-paddy" prone position (which I will ask Realwest to describe). The smaller size also might have made them able to be fired from the saddle in time of great need.

427 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:55:33pm

re: #421 avanti
"I typically only get 2-3 trips a year and even than, mine are off season, Lake Tahoe in August for example."
Well typically - back in the day - I got a cab home! LOL!

428 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:56:23pm

re: #410 avanti

Good for you! That is great, and sounds like you enjoy it too!

429 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:58:20pm

re: #418 NY Nana

/They are't even that good!

You really are good...and I am so glad that you are on our side!

I thank you for that. I'm glad to be able to do my own small part.

430 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:58:23pm

re: #424 jcm So you're not sure where she'll end up?
Damn jcm, you are a truly fine person and a great example of man at his best.
I'm pleased to call you my friend.

431 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 9:59:50pm

but you can never check out...more Eagles


Youtube Video
432 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:00:43pm

re: #425 Floral Giraffe
Huh, that's how I used to get OUT of spots in NYC! I alwasy left enough room for me to get out and some M-O-R-O-N would wind up squessing in. Thank God for power steering! Or at least Ford!

433 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:01:14pm

Alert Glenn Beck, awake Rush Limbaugh and notify Sarah Palin: Socialistic Gardening!
Obama to set up a White House farmer's market

434 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:02:07pm

re: #429 Dark_Falcon

I thank you for that. I'm glad to be able to do my own small part.

You really are one of the good Lizards!

Now live with it! ;)

435 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:02:30pm

re: #430 realwest

So you're not sure where she'll end up?
Damn jcm, you are a truly fine person and a great example of man at his best.
I'm pleased to call you my friend.

Thanks, not at this point. That's the "fun" part of foster care, not knowing what's going to happen with the kids. The "system" could do much better by these kids.

436 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:03:48pm

re: #433 Killgore Trout

Alert Glenn Beck, awake Rush Limbaugh and notify Sarah Palin: Socialistic Gardening!
Obama to set up a White House farmer's market

COMMIE CARROTS!

437 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:03:59pm

re: #425 Floral Giraffe

LOL! I lived in a very high density part of LA for many years. We called it "parking by Braille". Bump into the cars ( gently, of course) until you get your car in the spot!

What you needed was a spotter.

438 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:04:23pm

re: #433 Killgore Trout
Well now Killgore lets be fair to the Obama's - from your link: "Not long ago, the first lady planted the first seeds for the White House's own organic garden. Now the Obamas want to expand the idea to set up a farmers market just outside the White House."

439 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:04:35pm

re: #436 albusteve

Marxist melons!

440 avanti  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:04:53pm

re: #427 realwest

"I typically only get 2-3 trips a year and even than, mine are off season, Lake Tahoe in August for example."
Well typically - back in the day - I got a cab home! LOL!

I've been a casino gambler for about 20 years and I recall playing $2.00 a hand blackjack, and shaking when I would go to $5.00. Back than, I was lucky to get a free meal, Now, the minimum bet is $25, and if I'm winning, I may risk more than I want to think about, but it's something you have to do when the shoe goes your way. I still can't stand to watch the big guys drop what would be a years salary for a average guy in 10 minutes and not bat a eye.

441 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:05:12pm

re: #436 albusteve

COMMIE CARROTS!

Don't forget the socialist celery!

442 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:05:38pm

re: #433 Killgore Trout

LOL! I can contribute some nice, organically grown tomatoes for the throwing. On anyone, anywhere. Politics doesn't matter, if you get to throw a tomato!

443 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:05:42pm

re: #438 realwest

I think the idea is to get local growers to bring produce in to dc to sell. There are even farmer's markets in NYC these days.

444 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:05:43pm

re: #435 jcm
Sadly my friend - I think that's true of LOTS of cities and States.
Who runs yours?

445 jaunte  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:05:55pm

re: #433 Killgore Trout

I hope they fixed the 'toxic sludge' issue with the fertilizer.

446 Racer X  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:06:15pm

re: #433 Killgore Trout

Alert Glenn Beck, awake Rush Limbaugh and notify Sarah Palin: Socialistic Gardening!
Obama to set up a White House farmer's market

It only makes sense.

He is full of crap.

447 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:06:22pm

re: #440 avanti

I've been a casino gambler for about 20 years and I recall playing $2.00 a hand blackjack, and shaking when I would go to $5.00. Back than, I was lucky to get a free meal, Now, the minimum bet is $25, and if I'm winning, I may risk more than I want to think about, but it's something you have to do when the shoe goes your way. I still can't stand to watch the big guys drop what would be a years salary for a average guy in 10 minutes and not bat a eye.

My parent got that gambling bug bad...they lose alot sometimes...win alot sometimes. If I lose $10, I start crying. I am too cheap to be a gambler.

448 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:06:32pm

re: #433 Killgore Trout

Alert Glenn Beck, awake Rush Limbaugh and notify Sarah Palin: Socialistic Gardening!
Obama to set up a White House farmer's market

those first two might get irritated, but living where she does, Sarah Palin probably knows about farmer's markets and shops at them. There are many such farmer's markets in and around Chicago, and that is probably where the Obamas got the idea from. I have no problem with it, in fact I find it rather wholesome. But then again, I don't have ODS.

449 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:07:02pm

re: #426 Dark_Falcon

They are indeed arquebuses. Japanese weapons of that type did not always have a shoulder stock, as they were often fired from a squatting position resembling the "rice-paddy" prone position (which I will ask Realwest to describe). The smaller size also might have made them able to be fired from the saddle in time of great need.

where did the name "arquebuses" come from? They don't look very efficient. (then again, I am pretty ignorant on the subject)

450 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:07:25pm

re: #437 solomonpanting

LOL! We used to bring a beach chair to the parking lot & sit in it, to reserve a space. I once nearly got run over, by someone who wanted the space I was sittting in!

451 Racer X  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:07:32pm

re: #433 Killgore Trout

Alert Glenn Beck, awake Rush Limbaugh and notify Sarah Palin: Socialistic Gardening!
Obama to set up a White House farmer's market

Seriously - this is a good idea. We need more farmers markets. We have a bunch here in L.A. - farms are nearby.

452 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:07:37pm

re: #441 Desert Dog

Don't forget the socialist celery!

Nor should we ignore the leftist lettuce! :D

453 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:07:42pm

I had a terrible tumble down three steps last night. Landed on my side. It was strange- like an ungraceful ballet styled fall, and my purse caught some of the weight as I sprawled onto the sidewalk. I sat up laughing, because I'm the biggest klutz in the world and it was so me. And then I realized I must not be too hurt if I was laughing, but I checked myself for injuries at that point. I have a nasty bruise below my knee, and that's about all I have to show for this spectacular crash no one witnessed. I thanked my lucky stars and Special Higher Angel for their protection that I didn't break my neck or any other bone. Nor did I lose an ounce of precious bodily fluids.

Thanks, {Mom}.

454 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:08:22pm

re: #434 NY Nana

You really are one of the good Lizards!

Now live with it! ;)

Are there really any bad lizards?

455 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:09:05pm

re: #443 Killgore Trout

I think the idea is to get local growers to bring produce in to dc to sell. There are even farmer's markets in NYC these days.

it's a good idea...I don't think it's a plot to take over the produce markets by the feds...
yet

456 Racer X  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:09:12pm

re: #453 Sharmuta

Glad you're OK Sharm.

457 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:09:12pm

re: #431 albusteve

but you can never check out...more Eagles

[Video]

Always great hearing that one. Where's Don Felder? I did not recognize the other guitarist.

458 jaunte  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:09:49pm

re: #449 ggt

Dutch "haakbus" (hook-gun) --> harquebus ---> arquebus.

459 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:10:02pm

re: #440 avanti Yeah, I only played black jack myself (not very well, I'm afraid) but I do recall the time a really gorgeous young blonde woman, accompanying a MUCH older gent, won something like $90,000 playing craps - just keep rolling/thowing well and let it all ride. Hell I'd be a mass of perspiration for that kinda dough - and at craps, too!

460 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:10:09pm

re: #448 Dark_Falcon

those first two might get irritated, but living where she does, Sarah Palin probably knows about farmer's markets and shops at them. There are many such farmer's markets in and around Chicago, and that is probably where the Obamas got the idea from. I have no problem with it, in fact I find it rather wholesome. But then again, I don't have ODS.

Farmer's Market's are very popular in the Western and Far Western and Very Far Western burbs. Good stuff!

461 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:10:19pm

re: #449 ggt

where did the name "arquebuses" come from? They don't look very efficient. (then again, I am pretty ignorant on the subject)

Arquebus is a Spanish term. originally. Few early firearms were efficient. Their main advantage was that they took far less skill to use than a longbow. Guns did not truly come into their own until the later flintlocks and socket bayonets removed the need for halbearders and pikemen.

462 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:10:21pm

re: #453 Sharmuta

Shaking finger sternly...
You need to pay attention & not do things like that.
(Finger waggling continues)
You could do some damage & we NEED you!
{{{Sharmuta}}}
Glad you're OK!

463 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:10:28pm

re: #444 realwest

Sadly my friend - I think that's true of LOTS of cities and States.
Who runs yours?

DSHS in WA has been seriously broken for a long, long time. Everyone owns a piece of that disaster.

464 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:10:34pm

re: #456 Racer X

Thanks, 10.

465 tradewind  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:10:34pm

Mellow-harshing alert, sorry...
This is really bad news, if it's an accurate picture ...
[Link: www.danielpipes.org...]

466 pat  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:10:52pm

re: #453 Sharmuta

Safety tip. Do not vacuum the stairs. Number one cause of women getting hurt on stairs other than rushing down the same in heels for a date.

467 Throbert McGee  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:11:04pm

Excuse the self-pimpin', but this is really about needing some constructive feedback about the intelligibility of the audio and whether the material is more PG-13 or more R, etc.

There are now four videos in my "Confessions of a Gay Cylon" series of short-shorts on YouTube (average running length must be around 30 sec.):

A Cylon Speaks With Candor About His Six-Million-Dollar-Man Fantasies:

Youtube Video

A Gay Cylon Explains What "Lucky Pierre" Means:

Youtube Video

A Gay Cylon Has a Message for HAL 9000:

Youtube Video

A Gay Cylon Confesses His Crush on Scott Bakula:

Youtube Video

Again, I don't need compliments, but would be most grateful for complaints about technical problems, such as audio quality or the scrolling speed of the end credits, etc.

P.S. And there may be 2-3 more such videos -- I haven't yet done any shout-outs to the Star Trek franchise or Space: 1999 or that Tom Selleck movie with the robot spiders, whatever it was called -- but I don't want to bludgeon the concept to death.

468 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:11:42pm

re: #458 jaunte

Dutch "haakbus" (hook-gun) --> harquebus ---> arquebus.

Thanks. Now why "hook" or does that mean something I don't know about? A hook holding the "wick" or whatever that holds the fire?

469 Silvergirl  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:12:06pm

Hi Floral Giraffe--I want to say thanks for your garage sale tips last night. I've had a full day, but we hauled in the money while they hauled off our junk (their new treasures) and I gave the rest to some women who are giving it to a women's shelter.

I resolve to buy less stuff. Weeding it out after it's lost its luster is drudgery.

470 laZardo  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:12:34pm

re: #439 Killgore Trout

Che Guevara Celery!

471 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:13:05pm

re: #470 laZardo

Che Guevara Celery!

Trotsky Tomatoes!

472 avanti  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:13:11pm

re: #428 Floral Giraffe

Good for you! That is great, and sounds like you enjoy it too!

If you think the younger generation is lost, you need to hang out with the kids that are at the military academies, they'll make you a believer in the future.
I cried like a baby at my mids wedding when all his friends in uniform, put on their shades, surrounded the bride and sang "You lost that lovin feeling", very cool to watch.

473 Gus  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:13:29pm

re: #470 laZardo

Che Guevara Celery!

ToMAOtoes

474 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:13:32pm

re: #461 Dark_Falcon

Arquebus is a Spanish term. originally. Few early firearms were efficient. Their main advantage was that they took far less skill to use than a longbow. Guns did not truly come into their own until the later flintlocks and socket bayonets removed the need for halbearders and pikemen.

I'd think it also took a lot less strength than a long bow. Those things are heavy, cumbersome and a b!tch to stretch out. I only tried it once on a modern bow--I was amazed at how much sheer muscle strength it took.

475 tradewind  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:13:33pm

re: #448 Dark_Falcon

Let's just hope he has better luck with it than he did with Michelle's Garden -of -Toxic= Clinton= Waste.
What's so innovative? There are seven or eight large Farmer's Markets in my county, most of them really good. They're basically co-ops, which leads me to suspect that TOTUS is going to launch one in an effort to raise his dead health care horse up to stalking status.

476 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:13:41pm

re: #457 Desert Dog

Always great hearing that one. Where's Don Felder? I did not recognize the other guitarist.

I didn't either...sweet double tho...there are many versions of that song and frankly Joe Walsh can take it to the house when he does the lead riffs, so I don't get the other guy

477 Gus  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:14:04pm

Slow... spinning wheel... uncompleted loading... grrr.

478 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:14:19pm

Pol Pot Potatoes!

479 jaunte  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:14:30pm

re: #468 ggt

Why haakbus:
Different accounts; maybe the bent shape of the butt, or that some had a metal hook attached near the muzzle to absorb recoil. They were all custom made, so there was only a general pattern.

480 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:14:49pm

re: #473 Gus 802

ToMAOtoes

collectivist corn

481 VioletTiger  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:15:21pm

re: #473 Gus 802

ToMAOtoes


Speaking of tomatoes---who wants some?
Seriously, my garden runneth over. I have about 75 on the vine right now and I already made a huge pot of sauce. Running out of people to give them to.

482 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:15:46pm

re: #448 Dark_Falcon

My daughter, almost-3 year old grandson, and son-in-law live in Brooklyn. It is amazing how many Farmers Markets there are right in the middle of Brooklyn, and all over, and also in NYC, the 'burbs, and other boroughs.

The produce, etc., is far better than the supermarkets!

Daughter is a superb cook.

483 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:15:49pm

re: #481 VioletTiger

Speaking of tomatoes---who wants some?
Seriously, my garden runneth over. I have about 75 on the vine right now and I already made a huge pot of sauce. Running out of people to give them to.

me! me! me! me!

484 tradewind  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:16:01pm

re: #477 Gus 802

spinning wheel... grrr


There must be a painted pony to ride somewhere under all that manure...
:)

485 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:16:27pm

re: #460 ggt

Farmer's Market's are very popular in the Western and Far Western and Very Far Western burbs. Good stuff!

There is even a farmer's market in Lincoln Park, less than 2 miles from the lakeshore. My family used to shop at it when we lived there.

486 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:16:34pm

re: #443 Killgore Trout
LOL! There have been Farmer's Markets since before I moved to Manhattan in 1973 - and they were THRIVING in at least 6 locations I know of when I left.

487 laZardo  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:16:38pm

re: #480 Desert Dog

Or was that Che Guevara Collard Greens?

488 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:17:03pm

re: #467 Throbert McGee

The first was the worst as far as understanding the Cylon. The other three sounded good. Audio volume, and the credits were at a readable pace on all 4- much improved since my first critique.

489 tradewind  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:17:49pm

re: #483 ggt

Sun dried tomatoes time. It's easy , works in the oven, and then they keep forever.
Well... a long time.

490 VioletTiger  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:18:00pm

re: #485 Dark_Falcon

There is even a farmer's market in Lincoln Park, less than 2 miles from the lakeshore. My family used to shop at it when we lived there.

Here in the wilds of Jersey there are farm stands everywhere. Fresh veggies and fruit and the corn is wonderful. But you can't beat Jersey tomatoes.

491 jaunte  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:18:22pm

re: #484 tradewind

There must be a painted pony to ride somewhere under all that manure...
:)

Youtube Video
492 avanti  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:19:09pm

re: #447 Desert Dog

My parent got that gambling bug bad...they lose alot sometimes...win alot sometimes. If I lose $10, I start crying. I am too cheap to be a gambler.

Money management is the hardest thing to learn. If you double or triple your buy in at the table, get up and leave, then the next trip you can risk part of those winnings and enjoy yourself. Even when I hit a big slot jackpot, I have the casino give me a check for most of it, so I won't be tempted to put it all back.
My friend can't do that, she started out with $200, got up to $1300 and I begged her to let me hold a $1000 to take home. She stayed up until 7AM and went home with $10.00.

493 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:19:25pm

re: #475 tradewind

Let's just hope he has better luck with it than he did with Michelle's Garden -of -Toxic= Clinton= Waste.
What's so innovative? There are seven or eight large Farmer's Markets in my county, most of them really good. They're basically co-ops, which leads me to suspect that TOTUS is going to launch one in an effort to raise his dead health care horse up to stalking status.

There's no correlation between the two initiatives. The farmer's market is probably just an ideam the Obamas have found works well that they'd like to import to DC. On a political level, it lets them go out and be seen among the people, which can be a positive if done right (and it would be).

494 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:19:40pm

re: #487 laZardo

Or was that Che Guevara Collard Greens?

Liberty Squash(ed)

495 Racer X  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:20:02pm

I disagree with Kay Jewellers. I would bet on any given Friday or Saturday night more kisses begin with Miller Lites than Kay.

496 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:20:06pm

re: #492 avanti

Money management is the hardest thing to learn. If you double or triple your buy in at the table, get up and leave, then the next trip you can risk part of those winnings and enjoy yourself. Even when I hit a big slot jackpot, I have the casino give me a check for most of it, so I won't be tempted to put it all back.
My friend can't do that, she started out with $200, got up to $1300 and I begged her to let me hold a $1000 to take home. She stayed up until 7AM and went home with $10.00.

It lure to stay is strong and that's what the casino wants to happen. I wish my parent would walk away sometimes...they come home in barrels

497 Gus  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:20:22pm

re: #484 tradewind

There must be a painted pony to ride somewhere under all that manure...
:)

Something. Trying the spy version now. Looks like this is working right.

498 tradewind  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:20:28pm

re: #491 jaunte

See, I was just too lazy. Thanks///

499 albusteve  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:20:37pm

Tommy Emmanuel
rock on my brothers and sisters...

Youtube Video
500 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:20:59pm

re: #467 Throbert McGee

Excuse the self-pimpin', but this is really about needing some constructive feedback about the intelligibility of the audio and whether the material is more PG-13 or more R, etc.

There are now four videos in my "Confessions of a Gay Cylon" series of short-shorts on YouTube (average running length must be around 30 sec.):

A Cylon Speaks With Candor About His Six-Million-Dollar-Man Fantasies:


[Video] Again, I don't need compliments, but would be most grateful for complaints about technical problems, such as audio quality or the scrolling speed of the end credits, etc.

P.S. And there may be 2-3 more such videos -- I haven't yet done any shout-outs to the Star Trek franchise or Space: 1999 or that Tom Selleck movie with the robot spiders, whatever it was called -- but I don't want to bludgeon the concept to death.

Thorbert, are you anywhere near Chicago? If you are and are a Battlestar Galatica fan, there's a game on September 12th you might be interested in.

501 jaunte  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:21:29pm

re: #498 tradewind

Much better sound on this: "Hi-De-Ho"

Youtube Video
502 tradewind  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:21:36pm

re: #493 Dark_Falcon

Got Irony?
:)

503 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:21:39pm

Speaking of old weapons, flintlocks have left us with two expressions that we understand even though we don't know their source:
Don't go off half-cocked
Flash in the pan

Flintlocks have a half-cocked position, largely used when loading. They cannot be fired from that position.
They also have a "pan" in which powder caught the spark from the flint, and then set off the propellant charge. A flash might not set off the charge.

504 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:21:48pm

re: #463 jcm So it's a State Run agency?
Shit, I was hoping for something more local so you could run for whatever political position is responsible for that and then - after you win - clean house and get that place back to doing what it's supposed to be doing: looking out for the welfare of the children.

505 Throbert McGee  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:22:54pm

re: #481 VioletTiger

Speaking of tomatoes---who wants some?
Seriously, my garden runneth over. I have about 75 on the vine right now and I already made a huge pot of sauce. Running out of people to give them to.

Damn, I am envious, as a balcony gardener. I've currently got just three green fruits on my lone potted tomato plant.

506 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:23:12pm

re: #469 Silvergirl

DRINKS ARE ON SILVERGIRL!
Wheee!
Are you happy with your haul? And, the empty space?
I kept the BEST tip a secret.
(Be hungover & really rude! They come back for more!)

507 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:23:33pm

re: #490 VioletTiger

You're from Joisey? ;) We buy so much produce from NJ...it really is great. In our supermarkets they have tags on the produce from NJ, saying it is NJ produce. And we have yet to have a bad tomato, etc.

508 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:24:25pm

re: #504 realwest

So it's a State Run agency?
Shit, I was hoping for something more local so you could run for whatever political position is responsible for that and then - after you win - clean house and get that place back to doing what it's supposed to be doing: looking out for the welfare of the children.

State agency executive branch, Gov. appoints the head of the agency.

I wrote Gregoire about some of the issues, she did her usual pass the buck and blamed the legislature.

509 Throbert McGee  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:27:27pm

re: #500 Dark_Falcon

Thorbert, are you anywhere near Chicago? If you are and are a Battlestar Galactica fan, there's a game on September 12th you might be interested in.

Nope, I'm in the DC metro area. What's happening on 12 Sept. in Chicago?

510 laZardo  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:27:41pm

re: #494 solomonpanting

re: #493 Dark_Falcon

Broccoli Obama

511 VioletTiger  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:28:04pm

re: #507 NY Nana

You're from Joisey? ;) We buy so much produce from NJ...it really is great. In our supermarkets they have tags on the produce from NJ, saying it is NJ produce. And we have yet to have a bad tomato, etc.


Tomatoes and corn and peaches are great this year.
Wish I could share all this with you.

512 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:28:13pm

re: #467 Throbert McGee

Seminal... ha ha ha?

Funny.

I actually understood most of what was said (watched the Hal 9000 one).

513 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:28:55pm

re: #486 realwest

LOL! There have been Farmer's Markets since before I moved to Manhattan in 1973 - and they were THRIVING in at least 6 locations I know of when I left.

I think Farmer's Market's used to be called vegetable carts??? I have a picture of the old immigrant taking his horse-cart up down the neighborhoods selling fruits and veggies. Wasn't there usually a fresh produce guy and a dairy guy that neighborhoods depended on?

514 jcm  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:29:05pm

Night Honcos!

Take care RW, and the rest of you!

515 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:29:25pm

re: #469 Silvergirl
Hey, good on you for doing that Silvergirl!

516 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:30:03pm

re: #502 tradewind

Got Irony?
:)

Yep, I got it. It just hard to tell when someone is kidding on the health care issue. Some people would actually make the argument you made seriously. Of course most of those people listen to Alex Jones, so they can be dismissed as fools. Not that I suspect you of foolishness, of course. You have proven your smarts time and again.

517 VioletTiger  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:32:15pm

re: #469 Silvergirl

Hi Floral Giraffe--I want to say thanks for your garage sale tips last night. I've had a full day, but we hauled in the money while they hauled off our junk (their new treasures) and I gave the rest to some women who are giving it to a women's shelter.

I resolve to buy less stuff. Weeding it out after it's lost its luster is drudgery.


I've had good yard sales and bad ones.
Still amazed at what people will buy.
Bought new toilet seats one summer and put the old ones out on the yard sale--as a joke!
Somebody bought them.

518 Silvergirl  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:32:18pm

re: #506 Floral Giraffe

DRINKS ARE ON SILVERGIRL!
Wheee!
Are you happy with your haul? And, the empty space?
I kept the BEST tip a secret.
(Be hungover & really rude! They come back for more!)

Set 'em up!

Yes, I adore the cash and the rediscovered space.

I didn't know garage sale shoppers thrive on abuse from hungover sellers! Live 'n learn.

519 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:32:43pm

re: #509 Throbert McGee

Nope, I'm in the DC metro area. What's happening on 12 Sept. in Chicago?

It a crossover game which will pit the Galactica and Pegasus against an evil faction in the Classic Battletech universe called Word of Blake. The organizers bought BG minis and has been painting them. They're finally ready to go.

520 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:33:56pm

re: #518 Silvergirl

Set 'em up!

Yes, I adore the cash and the rediscovered space.

I didn't know garage sale shoppers thrive on abuse from hungover sellers! Live 'n learn.

Really, I don't think anyone should be drinking this late at night. Do you all have designated commenters?

521 NY Nana  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:35:24pm

I am about to make LGF history, as I am actually going to sleep now!

Sweet dreams, Lizards. G'nite!

Youtube Video
522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:36:15pm

Someone had a screwed up link a while ago, and it took me to this picture. Did it take everyone to the same picture.

It is really evil. And reeeally funny (in an evil way).

523 Syrah  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:36:34pm

re: #453 Sharmuta

Gravity testing?

Just keep in mind that it is not the fall that hurts, but the sudden stop.

Glad you got away with little more than bruises.

524 Silvergirl  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:36:41pm

re: #517 VioletTiger

I've had good yard sales and bad ones.
Still amazed at what people will buy.
Bought new toilet seats one summer and put the old ones out on the yard sale--as a joke!
Somebody bought them.

Same here! My mother gave me a pile of stuff to sell in a garage sale several years ago and a toilet seat was part of it. It was back in the original box, no longer new, but thankfully was clean. I marked it Free and sort of hid it, but a guy found it and actually pressed money on me for it.

525 Silvergirl  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:37:35pm

re: #520 Walter L. Newton

Really, I don't think anyone should be drinking this late at night. Do you all have designated commenters?

I didn't tell you they were shots of hot chocolate with mini marshmallows.

526 avanti  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:37:52pm

re: #496 Desert Dog

It lure to stay is strong and that's what the casino wants to happen. I wish my parent would walk away sometimes...they come home in barrels

Although I'm a gambler, I have mixed feeling about it. I view it as entertainment, and a set credit line at the casino that limits my downside loss potential. I leave my credit cards in the car, and just take a little petty cash. I see folks up there that are compulsive gamblers, that ruin their lives trying to hit the big score.

527 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:38:16pm

re: #508 jcm

State agency executive branch, Gov. appoints the head of the agency.

I wrote Gregoire about some of the issues, she did her usual pass the buck and blamed the legislature.


Well that just SUCKS. If it's an executive branch than all she could do would be to blame the legistlature for not enough money, INSTEAD of thinking of better ways to use the money they do have.
Keep on writing her jcm - y'all can never tell - if you can give her some beneficial changes which WON'T REQUIRE LEGISLATIVE ACTION and then conclude each letter with a "then you would get ALL the credit for fixing something that's seriously broken and help the children. Ya know, the kind of language politicians understand: "What's in it for me?"

528 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:39:09pm

re: #518 Silvergirl

Years ago my dad had a yard sale. I went by for a laugh, and got one.

He had (among the other absolute total crap) a single tennis shoe. Yep. One shoe, looked like he had pulled it out of a coal bin too.

Yes, my father, ran the most un-successful yard sale in history.

529 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:39:38pm

I know I'm really showing my ignorance here--or a lack of retaining facts--as I know I've learned most of this at some time. Just not enough of a gun nut --probably because I don't shoot. Actually, I developed hand problems, so any idea of going to the range hasn't worked out well.

Anyway, the only way to learn is to ask questions . . .

What I think I understand is: that fire powered projectile weapons began with actually using fire. Then, at some point, someone figured out a way to ignite a charge by friction. At that point, firearms became more efficient to use. Add to that the ability to mass produce uniform relatively light weight projectiles and devise an way to load them efficiently and then "rifle" the barrel to improve accuracy and firearms became the weapon of choice for just about every situation in which a weapon was needed.

so, that's what I think I know about firearm technical history.

How'd I do?

530 swamprat  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:39:40pm

re: #520 Walter L. Newton

Really, I don't think anyone should be drinking this late at night. Do you all have designated commenters?


Iron Fist is gone, but his rule lives on.

531 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:40:11pm

re: #517 VioletTiger

I've had good yard sales and bad ones.
Still amazed at what people will buy.
Bought new toilet seats one summer and put the old ones out on the yard sale--as a joke!
Somebody bought them.

My Mom says that people will buy anything if you put a price less than a $1 on it.

532 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:40:21pm

God was missing for six days. Eventually, Michael, the archangel, found him, resting on the seventh day.
He inquired, "Where have you been?"
God smiled deeply and proudly pointed downwards through the clouds, "Look, Michael. Look what I've made."
Archangel Michael looked puzzled, and said, "What is it?"
"It's a planet," replied God, "and I've put life on it.. I'm going to call it Earth and it's going to be a place to test Balance."
"Balance?" inquired Michael, "I'm still confused."
God explained, pointing to different parts of earth. "For example, northern Europe will be a place of great opportunity and wealth, while southern Europe is going to be poor. Over here I've placed a continent of white people, and over there is a continent of black people. Balance in all things."
God continued pointing to different countries. "This one will be extremely hot, while this one will be very cold and covered in ice."
The Archangel, impressed by God's work, then pointed to a land area and said, "What's that one?"
"That's Washington State, the most glorious place on earth. There are beautiful mountains, rivers and streams, lakes, forests, hills, and plains. The people from Washington State are going to be handsome, modest, intelligent, and humorous, and they are going to travel the world. They will be extremely sociable, hardworking, high achieving, carriers of peace, and producers of software."
Michael gasped in wonder and admiration, but then asked, "But what about balance, God? You said there would be balance."
God smiled, "There's another Washington.
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Wait till you see the idiots I put there.

533 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:40:30pm

re: #513 ggt Well you're memory is correct but out of date - those cart peddlars went out of business pretty quickly when both Farmer's Markets and supermarkets showed up in the right locations. But you are right as to how it all started!

534 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:42:48pm

re: #522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian actually I don't find it evil, but in extraordinary bad taste and not at all funny.

535 VioletTiger  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:43:37pm

re: #531 ggt

My Mom says that people will buy anything if you put a price less than a $1 on it.

Some people are very serious about their Saturday morning tag sales, too. It appears to be a weekly outing for some, collecting other people's crap.

536 Throbert McGee  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:44:10pm

re: #512 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Seminal... ha ha ha?

Funny.

I actually understood most of what was said (watched the Hal 9000 one).

Upding to you, sir.

537 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:44:21pm

re: #532 solomonpanting

That one got sent to my email list.

538 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:45:19pm

re: #532 solomonpanting

LOL!

539 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:46:20pm

Well y'all it's been grand as usual, but I gotta get some sleep!
I hope you all have a great evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!

Good night, all.

540 tradewind  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:46:56pm

re: #516 Dark_Falcon

Thanks for the kind words...
Not a conspiracy person, but I am starting to believe that TOTUS is the Forrest Gump of presidents... he just keeps on running, even after there's no race, and he's going to run until he's ready to stop. So...I'm starting to see everything he does through campaign-colored goggles, because I think that he does.

541 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:47:32pm

re: #537 ggt

That one got sent to my email list.

Mine, too, and I had to share it.

542 Silvergirl  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:48:22pm

re: #531 ggt

My Mom says that people will buy anything if you put a price less than a $1 on it.

But would they buy FBVeggie's dad's single tennis shoe from the coal bin?

543 VioletTiger  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:48:23pm

I think this qualifies as a severe case of ODS.
Did these people seriously train their dog to do this???

544 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:48:48pm

re: #529 ggt

I know I'm really showing my ignorance here--or a lack of retaining facts--as I know I've learned most of this at some time. Just not enough of a gun nut --probably because I don't shoot. Actually, I developed hand problems, so any idea of going to the range hasn't worked out well.

Anyway, the only way to learn is to ask questions . . .

What I think I understand is: that fire powered projectile weapons began with actually using fire. Then, at some point, someone figured out a way to ignite a charge by friction. At that point, firearms became more efficient to use. Add to that the ability to mass produce uniform relatively light weight projectiles and devise an way to load them efficiently and then "rifle" the barrel to improve accuracy and firearms became the weapon of choice for just about every situation in which a weapon was needed.

so, that's what I think I know about firearm technical history.

How'd I do?

Close to correct. The flintlock did make firearms lighter and more efficient. Rifling had been invented long before it was widely used. Until the 19th Century invention of the Mine' Ball Ball, rifling always was soon too badly fouled to do any good. The "minny ball" as it came to bell called during the US Civil War, expanded its hollow base to fit the rifling and thus partially clean the barrel. Concurrent with the development, the percussion cap replaced the flint as the best firing mechanism. It was more waterproof, and more reliable.

545 Ziggy Standard  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:49:40pm

Tried to get to sleep several hours ago but failed. Maybe if I try counting sheep...

Youtube Video
546 tradewind  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:50:04pm

re: #532 solomonpanting

Ruh Roh... I think McDermott must have been sent to the wrong slot.

547 tradewind  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:51:46pm

re: #545 Jimmah

Just grab a copy of the health care bill and see how far you get...

548 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:52:13pm

re: #546 tradewind

Ruh Roh... I think McDermott must have been sent to the wrong slot.

Well, he was born in Chicago.

549 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:53:11pm

re: #518 Silvergirl

Deep Dark seekrit...
My favorite yard sale customer, drove up in a city garbage truck.
I swear it! He stopped in the middle of the street, while he shopped!

550 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:53:18pm

re: #542 Silvergirl

But would they buy FBVeggie's dad's single tennis shoe from the coal bin?

make it .29 Cents and someone would probably buy it --maybe for the shoe string.

551 swamprat  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:53:50pm

re: #531 ggt

My wife and I once went to several yard sales and bought hotdoggers;
Bizarre devices that shoot raw electricity through hotdogs, cooking them in seconds. You can make one with 2 nails and an old extension cord, but these were factory beauties. We still don't know why we did this.

552 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:53:57pm

re: #540 tradewind

Thanks for the kind words...
Not a conspiracy person, but I am starting to believe that TOTUS is the Forrest Gump of presidents... he just keeps on running, even after there's no race, and he's going to run until he's ready to stop. So...I'm starting to see everything he does through campaign-colored goggles, because I think that he does.

Don't dishonor Forrest Gump by comparing him to Obama. He is loyal to his friends, Obama throws his under the bus. He fought for his country, Obama did not. He is honest to a fault, Obama lies frequently.

/said tongue-in-cheek

553 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:55:25pm

re: #522 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Someone had a screwed up link a while ago, and it took me to this picture. Did it take everyone to the same picture.

It is really evil. And reeeally funny (in an evil way).

Does the kid have a crib down by the river?

554 laZardo  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:55:38pm

re: #552 Dark_Falcon

Did they ever figure out exactly what it was Forrest Gump said during the Million Man March while his mic was cut off?

555 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:56:46pm

re: #544 Dark_Falcon

Close to correct. The flintlock did make firearms lighter and more efficient. Rifling had been invented long before it was widely used. Until the 19th Century invention of the Mine' Ball Ball, rifling always was soon too badly fouled to do any good. The "minny ball" as it came to bell called during the US Civil War, expanded its hollow base to fit the rifling and thus partially clean the barrel. Concurrent with the development, the percussion cap replaced the flint as the best firing mechanism. It was more waterproof, and more reliable.

As long as I have the basics right, there is hope I can retain the specifics. I've taken the NRA safety course, and plan on doing it again in the Spring. Perhaps with enough repetition. . . .. It's just so pissy when I can't actually shoot. Last time my hands hurt for three days just from handling the different firearms. The weight of the semi-auto rifle nearly dislocated my elbow (I have really bad joints). I couldn't imagine being a soldier and carrying their rifle and gear.

556 pat  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:56:50pm

re: #529 ggt

Terrible. lol

557 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:57:10pm

re: #551 swamprat

My wife and I once went to several yard sales and bought hotdoggers;
Bizarre devices that shoot raw electricity through hotdogs, cooking them in seconds. You can make one with 2 nails and an old extension cord, but these were factory beauties. We still don't know why we did this.

spousal bonding.

:)

558 Silvergirl  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:57:14pm

re: #551 swamprat

My wife and I once went to several yard sales and bought hotdoggers;
Bizarre devices that shoot raw electricity through hotdogs, cooking them in seconds. You can make one with 2 nails and an old extension cord, but these were factory beauties. We still don't know why we did this.

I love how you ended it with "We still don't know why we did this." It sounds like every so often you just look at each other quizzically, scratch your heads, and say, "What were we thinking?"

559 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:57:18pm

Obama's Big Bang could go bust

Everything, right now, and don't bother us with those pesky questions...just vote yes and let's move on to the next transitional phase. It's not mobs, astroturf, nirthers, nazis, or even rightwing extremists that are causing this backlash. The loonies are just along for the ride, not the engine that is driving it.

560 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:58:09pm

re: #556 pat

Terrible. lol

I know.

561 swamprat  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:58:35pm

re: #558 Silvergirl

I love how you ended it with "We still don't know why we did this." It sounds like every so often you just look at each other quizzically, scratch your heads, and say, "What were we thinking?"

Exactly!

562 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:58:37pm

re: #529 ggt

I know I'm really showing my ignorance here--or a lack of retaining facts--as I know I've learned most of this at some time. Just not enough of a gun nut --probably because I don't shoot. Actually, I developed hand problems, so any idea of going to the range hasn't worked out well.

Anyway, the only way to learn is to ask questions . . .

What I think I understand is: that fire powered projectile weapons began with actually using fire. Then, at some point, someone figured out a way to ignite a charge by friction. At that point, firearms became more efficient to use. Add to that the ability to mass produce uniform relatively light weight projectiles and devise an way to load them efficiently and then "rifle" the barrel to improve accuracy and firearms became the weapon of choice for just about every situation in which a weapon was needed.

so, that's what I think I know about firearm technical history.

How'd I do?

Pretty well.
The first firearms were matchlocks - they used a slow match (a rope fuse, basically), to set off the charge. The fuse was in an arm operated by the trigger; no you did not light it and hope it would fire when you wanted to.

563 shortshrift  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:58:47pm

re: #433 Killgore Trout

This is very small potatoes.
Perhaps he hopes his numbers will turnip.

564 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 10:59:36pm

re: #547 tradewind

Just grab a copy of the health care bill and see how far you get...

No, it will frighten you and you'll never get to sleep.

565 solomonpanting  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:00:43pm

re: #520 Walter L. Newton

Really, I don't think anyone should be drinking this late at night. Do you all have designated commenters?

You mean it's illegal to drink and jive?

566 hershel  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:01:05pm

Didn't Miles and Jarrett also appear at the legendary festival at the Isle of Lucy?

567 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:01:26pm

re: #470 laZardo

Mao Tse Plumb!

568 laZardo  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:03:11pm

re: #567 Killgore Trout

Castro Cauliflower!

/I think I saw your username on Special Forces on Facebook?

569 swamprat  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:03:25pm

re: #565 solomonpanting

You mean it's illegal to drink and jive?


"Stewardess, I speak jive. ...suka don wan hep, suka don git no hep!

/Airplane!

570 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:05:05pm

Hey Y'all - I need some tech help quickly! When I left LGF and tried to open some mail I got like `15 messages that I had all sorts of trojans and viruses and all.
The alert came from something called "Windows Virus Doctor -online" when I started to go for it, my protection said that the publisher (Windows) didn't have a correct signature - should I just kill this thing- have any of y'all ever HEARD of Windows Virus Doctor?
I'm currently running a Norton Inernet Security Full Systeme Scan.
HELP!

571 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:06:18pm

Also I ran a computer wide search for virus scan and got NO results back.

572 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:07:11pm

re: #570 realwest

Hey Y'all - I need some tech help quickly! When I left LGF and tried to open some mail I got like `15 messages that I had all sorts of trojans and viruses and all.
The alert came from something called "Windows Virus Doctor -online" when I started to go for it, my protection said that the publisher (Windows) didn't have a correct signature - should I just kill this thing- have any of y'all ever HEARD of Windows Virus Doctor?
I'm currently running a Norton Inernet Security Full Systeme Scan.
HELP!

Kill it, now. It's likely malware. Kill it and let Norton finish its scan. Norton should get rid of it.

573 SurferDoc  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:07:44pm

Kill it if you can.

574 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:07:47pm

re: #570 realwest

Hey Y'all - I need some tech help quickly! When I left LGF and tried to open some mail I got like `15 messages that I had all sorts of trojans and viruses and all.
The alert came from something called "Windows Virus Doctor -online" when I started to go for it, my protection said that the publisher (Windows) didn't have a correct signature - should I just kill this thing- have any of y'all ever HEARD of Windows Virus Doctor?
I'm currently running a Norton Inernet Security Full Systeme Scan.
HELP!

It's a scam webpage, close any an all browers. Did you click anything?
Clear your temporary internet files and history. Run your Norton and you may need to load up a malware or spyware program now.

575 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:08:08pm

re: #562 Kosh's Shadow

Pretty well.
The first firearms were matchlocks - they used a slow match (a rope fuse, basically), to set off the charge. The fuse was in an arm operated by the trigger; no you did not light it and hope it would fire when you wanted to.

Actually, I was thinking cannons, which I guess aren't technically firearms (--I dunno maybe they are). I was thinking projectile weapons that used gunpowder or something to propel them other than muscle power --as opossed to bow and arrow. I guess cross-bows would wouldn't use muscle power, but they were outlawed at some point. But that is another issue entirely.

576 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:08:39pm

re: #574 Desert Dog

It's a scam webpage, close any an all browers. Did you click anything?
Clear your temporary internet files and history. Run your Norton and you may need to load up a malware or spyware program now.

My son got something like that on our desktop. Took me all day to get rid of it

577 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:09:41pm

re: #576 Desert Dog

My son got something like that on our desktop. Took me all day to get rid of it

There is a joke in there somewhere. . . .

578 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:10:05pm

re: #570 realwest

Hey Y'all - I need some tech help quickly! When I left LGF and tried to open some mail I got like `15 messages that I had all sorts of trojans and viruses and all.
The alert came from something called "Windows Virus Doctor -online" when I started to go for it, my protection said that the publisher (Windows) didn't have a correct signature - should I just kill this thing- have any of y'all ever HEARD of Windows Virus Doctor?
I'm currently running a Norton Inernet Security Full Systeme Scan.
HELP!

Virus Doctor is malware. If you didn't actually install it, you should be safe; I believe most antivirus software will fix it.
Here is another link. You can search for more
[Link: www.bleepingcomputer.com...]

579 swamprat  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:10:48pm

rw
scam ransomware.
reboot
delete history and everything you can find
put the main threat/warning in quotion marks
put the word "atribune" also
do a search and go the site atribune
they will have the cure
while you are there
get the atribune atfcleaner and use it often, useful but not a virus cleaner, just a good tool

580 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:12:07pm

re: #571 realwest

Also I ran a computer wide search for virus scan and got NO results back.

This is what I used to kill off the phony anti-virus thingy my son got
Malwarebytes download

I also recommend this program to help clean up your machine:
CCleaner

581 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:12:38pm

THANKS Y'ALL - I DID TRY TO INSTALL CAUSE IT SAID MICROSOFT VIRUS DOCTOR BUT I STOPPED WHEN I GOT THE NOTICE THAT THE "SIGNATURE" COULD NOT BE VERIFIED (FROM Microsoft?!?). How do I kill it?!

582 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:13:55pm

re: #581 realwest

THANKS Y'ALL - I DID TRY TO INSTALL CAUSE IT SAID MICROSOFT VIRUS DOCTOR BUT I STOPPED WHEN I GOT THE NOTICE THAT THE "SIGNATURE" COULD NOT BE VERIFIED (FROM Microsoft?!?). How do I kill it?!

CTRL, ALT, Delete. Use that to bring up the task manager and kill it from there.

583 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:15:36pm

re: #582 Dark_Falcon
I did that after I cancelled all those notices and now that I have Task manager up I have no idea what to do now.

584 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:16:11pm

re: #582 Dark_Falcon

CTRL, ALT, Delete. Use that to bring up the task manager and kill it from there.

It'll load up again if RW clicked it to install. He'll need to download a malware remover. See my #580. Malwarebytes is free and it works pretty good. You will have to clean out your cache and temporary folders too.

585 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:16:14pm

re: #583 realwest

I did that after I cancelled all those notices and now that I have Task manager up I have no idea what to do now.

What programs does it show open?

586 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:17:25pm

re: #583 realwest

I did that after I cancelled all those notices and now that I have Task manager up I have no idea what to do now.

Task manager should have something in it that has the same name as the install window. Pick it, and click End Task.
Or you could always just reboot, if you can't close the install window.

And afterwards, run another scan just in case.

587 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:18:21pm

re: #584 Desert Dog
No Dog, I clicked to run, got the not verifiable signature (from Microsoft!!) so I cancelled it. Right now my Task Manager is houwing 3 tasks running, LGF, Norton and Web Mail.

588 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:18:44pm

re: #584 Desert Dog

It'll load up again if RW clicked it to install. He'll need to download a malware remover. See my #580. Malwarebytes is free and it works pretty good. You will have to clean out your cache and temporary folders too.

Not if it was stopped before installation. But I'd run a scan anyway, after a reboot.

589 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:19:04pm

Impressive...
Helen Keller & Anne Sullivan (1930 Newsreel Footage)

Youtube Video

Never seen that before.
/Namaste, Y'all
590 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:19:26pm

re: #587 realwest

No Dog, I clicked to run, got the not verifiable signature (from Microsoft!!) so I cancelled it. Right now my Task Manager is houwing 3 tasks running, LGF, Norton and Web Mail.

You should be ok then. I would still clean up everything and reboot, then run the Norton again.

591 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:19:38pm

re: #587 realwest

No Dog, I clicked to run, got the not verifiable signature (from Microsoft!!) so I cancelled it. Right now my Task Manager is houwing 3 tasks running, LGF, Norton and Web Mail.

Close web mail, whether manually or via task manager. Just in case.
It does sound like it got cancelled, though.

(Need to get to bed soon)

592 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:19:59pm

re: #585 Dark_Falcon

re: #579 swamprat

re: #586 Kosh's Shadow

Lizards to the rescue!
( Cue racing music here!)
God Bless y'all!

593 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:20:24pm

re: #586 Kosh's Shadow
KS, I'm sorry but the only name I remember is Virus Remover - don't remember any of the so called trojans and infections that were listed cause I didnt install any and cancelled 'em all!

594 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:22:11pm

re: #593 realwest

KS, I'm sorry but the only name I remember is Virus Remover - don't remember any of the so called trojans and infections that were listed cause I didnt install any and cancelled 'em all!

You should be alright. Close down all open programs, reboot and then scan again. That should get rid of the crap.

595 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:22:11pm

re: #593 realwest

KS, I'm sorry but the only name I remember is Virus Remover - don't remember any of the so called trojans and infections that were listed cause I didnt install any and cancelled 'em all!

My son was on Facebook and this thing popped up and he installed it. What a nightmare. It took me going into the registry and deleting it line by line. Ugh! I wish the people that write these programs would try something constructive for a change.

596 laZardo  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:22:15pm

re: #592 Floral Giraffe

Youtube Video
597 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:24:55pm

OK y'all, I'm gonna go crazy here. I close Web mail and am still running full norton internet security scan but still have that damned IE logo next to Virus Doctor Protection on top line next to favorites.
Should I delete that too?
It doesn't seem to want to cancel!

598 pat  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:25:11pm

There were multiple projectile devices. The Romans were incredibly creative. The Greeks had weapons that would shock most people today. The Chinese invented gunpowder, but it was a fear weapon. A novelty, often over accenting the sulfur to create effect. Traders brought the formula into Europe in the 1200's. The Europeans invented first, bombs, then guns. By the 1600's Europe had also contrived the steam cannon and the air gun. While deadly, both suffered from lack of proper gaskets and seals. There could be no retention of readiness. As an aside, gun wars could not be fought in the rain, until way later. Pikes and guns were used in tandem until almost 1700. So the primitive explosive shell predominated. There was a bit of discussion about arabesques etc. Interestingly enough, firearms actually were more complex before they became simpler. And curiously enough, both the steam launch and the compressed air launch have come back into the arsenal.

599 Gus  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:25:45pm

re: #570 realwest

Hey Y'all - I need some tech help quickly! When I left LGF and tried to open some mail I got like `15 messages that I had all sorts of trojans and viruses and all.
The alert came from something called "Windows Virus Doctor -online" when I started to go for it, my protection said that the publisher (Windows) didn't have a correct signature - should I just kill this thing- have any of y'all ever HEARD of Windows Virus Doctor?
I'm currently running a Norton Inernet Security Full Systeme Scan.
HELP!

RW, go here and follow the instructions:

[Link: www.symantec.com...]

600 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:27:14pm

re: #597 realwest

OK y'all, I'm gonna go crazy here. I close Web mail and am still running full norton internet security scan but still have that damned IE logo next to Virus Doctor Protection on top line next to favorites.
Should I delete that too?
It doesn't seem to want to cancel!

DId you clear your cache and temporary internet files? You can do that from the Control Panel, in the System area.

Then, close everything and reboot. If that thing is still there, you will have to remove it via another method.

601 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:27:16pm

re: #599 Gus 802

Lizards are the bestest!
Hi Gus!

602 Sharmuta  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:27:24pm

re: #523 Syrah

Gravity testing?

Just keep in mind that it is not the fall that hurts, but the sudden stop.

Glad you got away with little more than bruises.

I don't believe in gravity. The earth sucks.

603 Gus  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:27:57pm

re: #601 Floral Giraffe

Lizards are the bestest!
Hi Gus!

Hi Floral Giraffe. :)

604 swamprat  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:28:16pm

re: #587 realwest

Take note of the time and day. If you have further problems, you can do a search for programs that have been added or changed on this date at that time. You can go from there.

605 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:28:36pm

re: #595 Desert Dog
Hey DD - I have a yellow line at tope of page under the bogus IE symbol and VirusDoctor - Online Protection and the yellow line says "to help protect your security Internet Explorer bocked this site from downloading files to your computer click here for options"
Do y'all think I should click that yellow line?

606 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:29:03pm

re: #605 realwest

Hey DD - I have a yellow line at tope of page under the bogus IE symbol and VirusDoctor - Online Protection and the yellow line says "to help protect your security Internet Explorer bocked this site from downloading files to your computer click here for options"
Do y'all think I should click that yellow line?

NOOO!!!

607 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:30:31pm

re: #606 Desert Dog
NO sweat DD - task manager found three programs running including LGF, Norton and that stupid Virus thing so I clicked the virus thing and hit cancel.
It appears to be gone!

608 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:31:31pm

re: #605 realwest

Hey DD - I have a yellow line at tope of page under the bogus IE symbol and VirusDoctor - Online Protection and the yellow line says "to help protect your security Internet Explorer bocked this site from downloading files to your computer click here for options"
Do y'all think I should click that yellow line?

Have you rebooted yet RW? Clear your temporary folders and reboot. See if it's gone. Hopefully, it is. You an scan it with Norton when you are back up again.

609 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:32:20pm

re: #602 Sharmuta
Glad you didn't hit "boom, boom, out go the lights!"

610 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:32:27pm

re: #608 Desert Dog

Have you rebooted yet RW? Clear your temporary folders and reboot. See if it's gone. Hopefully, it is. You an scan it with Norton when you are back up again.

re: #607 realwest

NO sweat DD - task manager found three programs running including LGF, Norton and that stupid Virus thing so I clicked the virus thing and hit cancel.
It appears to be gone!

DD is right. Time to reboot.

611 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:32:44pm

re: #589 Killgore Trout

Impressive...
Helen Keller & Anne Sullivan (1930 Newsreel Footage)

[Video]
Never seen that before.
/Namaste, Y'all

That was wonderful!

612 Gus  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:32:55pm

re: #607 realwest

NO sweat DD - task manager found three programs running including LGF, Norton and that stupid Virus thing so I clicked the virus thing and hit cancel.
It appears to be gone!

It'll just start up again on reboot. You have to clean it all out.

It includes doing this:

[Link: www.symantec.com...]

The Symantec tech details shows that it creates this:

Installation
When the program is executed, it creates the following files:
%UserProfile%Application DataMicrosoftInternet ExplorerQuick LaunchVirus Doctor.lnk
%UserProfile%Application DataVirus Doctorsettings.ini
%UserProfile%Application DataVirus Doctoruill.ini
%UserProfile%DesktopVirus Doctor.lnk
%UserProfile%DesktopVirusDoctor.exe
%UserProfile%Start MenuProgramsVirus Doctor.lnk
%UserProfile%Start MenuVirus Doctor.lnk
C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication Data[RANDOM CHARACTERS]LanguagesVDDe.lng
C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication Data[RANDOM CHARACTERS]LanguagesVDFr.lng
C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication Data[RANDOM CHARACTERS]LanguagesVDIt.lng
C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication Data[RANDOM CHARACTERS]System Data ConfigurationDBInfo.ver
C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication Data[RANDOM CHARACTERS]System Data Configurationvd[RANDOM CHARACTERS].bd
C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication Data[RANDOM CHARACTERS]unins000.dat
C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication Data[RANDOM CHARACTERS]unins000.exe
C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication Data[RANDOM CHARACTERS]VDo[RANDOM CHARACTERS].exe
C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication DataSystem Data Configurationconfig.cfg
C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication DataSystem Data ConfigurationDB.ini


It also creates the following folders:
%UserProfile%Application DataVirus Doctor
C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication Data[RANDOM CHARACTERS]
C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication Data[RANDOM CHARACTERS]Languages
C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication Data[RANDOM CHARACTERS]System Data Configuration
C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication DataSystem Data Configuration


Next, the program creates the following registry entry so that it executes whenever Windows starts:
HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionRun"Virus Doctor" = "C:Documents and SettingsAll UsersApplication Data[RANDOM CHARACTERS]VDo[RANDOM CHARACTERS].exe" /s /d""

It also creates the following registry subkey:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionUninstallVirus Doctor_is1

613 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:33:21pm

re: #607 realwest

HOORAY!

614 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:34:35pm

re: #612 Gus 802

Sounds like RW may have installed the little nasty bastard after all. That's a drag. Might have to go in and delete it line by line...

615 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:35:04pm

New thread and I'm tired.

weet dreams all!

Thanks for your patience!

616 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:35:23pm

re: #597 realwest

OK y'all, I'm gonna go crazy here. I close Web mail and am still running full norton internet security scan but still have that damned IE logo next to Virus Doctor Protection on top line next to favorites.
Should I delete that too?
It doesn't seem to want to cancel!

Close IE and then open it again.

617 Gus  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:35:41pm

re: #614 Desert Dog

Sounds like RW may have installed the little nasty bastard after all. That's a drag. Might have to go in and delete it line by line...

Sometimes you do. If it gets in your System Restore it'll pop up again and again regardless. So that has to be cleared out and then you run a virus scan and delete what needs to be deleted.

618 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:35:45pm

re: #612 Gus 802
Gus - I never installed it, I cancelled it on Task Manager and my Norton Full System Internet Security Scan showed nothing! All Clear.
Should I now empty history, clear cookies and re-boot?

619 Gus  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:36:18pm

re: #618 realwest

Gus - I never installed it, I cancelled it on Task Manager and my Norton Full System Internet Security Scan showed nothing! All Clear.
Should I now empty history, clear cookies and re-boot?

Well, if that's the case then give it a shot.

620 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:36:50pm

OK - folks keep your fingers crossed!

621 Gus  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:37:16pm

re: #618 realwest

Gus - I never installed it, I cancelled it on Task Manager and my Norton Full System Internet Security Scan showed nothing! All Clear.
Should I now empty history, clear cookies and re-boot?

It's not really a virus. It's malware so you should be fine eventually.

622 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:38:22pm

re: #620 realwest

OK - folks keep your fingers crossed!

See you tomorrow, RW. Let me know how it goes.

623 Kosh's Shadow  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:39:10pm

re: #605 realwest

Hey DD - I have a yellow line at tope of page under the bogus IE symbol and VirusDoctor - Online Protection and the yellow line says "to help protect your security Internet Explorer bocked this site from downloading files to your computer click here for options"
Do y'all think I should click that yellow line?

Don't click the line - but it did the right thing and prevented the download.

624 swamprat  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:40:23pm

One of the best virus people here

But getting rid of kapersky is harder than some viruses

625 sngnsgt  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:46:27pm

re: #559 Desert Dog

How long is the LLL going to carry on with this "nirthers" thing? The LLL are the only one's that still use it. (In fact, they're probably the one's that came up with the word) It's getting old and tired and makes them sound like the idiots they are.

626 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:48:38pm

re: #625 sngnsgt

How long is the LLL going to carry on with this "nirthers" thing? The LLL are the only one's that still use it. (In fact, they're probably the one's that came up with the word) It's getting old and tired and makes them sound like the idiots they are.

I get upset when I get lumped in with people like that. Tainting the other side with their extremes has always been a tactic in politics, so I should not be surprised.

627 realwest  Sat, Aug 22, 2009 11:51:58pm

re: #626 Desert Dog
Hey DD - well I emptied all temp int. files, cleared cache of cookies and ran a Quick Norton Scan and all appears normal
BTW, I got an e-mail from Macker saying he had been banned I replied I was sorry to hear it, then everything started going blooey with that phony virus scan.
Think I'm ok now?

628 paulo  Sun, Aug 23, 2009 3:39:47am

back to the music

just wonderin where the tune is! Could any of you whistle it

629 capt26thga  Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:11:40am

OK!
Guess that's why we have so many different styles of music.

630 djranger  Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:10:08am

pure expression through music. those cats could play!

631 tokyobk  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:47:44am

I think this is the concert where Jarrett couldn't convince Davis that he (Jarrett) was not black.

As a collector of absurd race stories (that show how absurd race is) I would have love to been a fly on the wall at that one.

632 jiminycricket  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 5:04:22pm

I was present throughout this 5 day festival in 1970 and without doubt Miles was the most impressive set. I was completely blown away by it and had no idea what hit me and what it was all about . The shock of the new. The thrill of the new. It came and went in 38 minutes and you knew something special had just happened, something new and different and utterly original but didn't actually realise while it was happening. I was just a rock and blues fan like most people there but after that everything expanded. . Afterwards I checked out his amazing world of electric music and everything he did between 1969 and 1975 still stands as timeless and the most powerful music I know. On the Corner is great but the peak of that period for me is the Pangaea album of a concert in Japan in 1975. It's raw, primal and very beautiful.


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