A great performance from Porcupine Tree’s concert DVD Arriving SomewhereExternal Image. The song is “Blackest Eyes” from the album In Absentia.
The drummer in this band, Gavin Harrison, is a monster. I’m talking Godzilla-type monster. Scary.
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yochanan Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:22:51pm |
how do porqupines trees make love very carefully
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HoosierHoops Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:24:54pm |
Whoa..
I’m a big Billy Cobham fan.. I think Billy is a top 5 drummer of all time
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Charles Johnson Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:29:02pm |
re: #3 HoosierHoops
Whoa..
I’m a big Billy Cobham fan.. I think Billy is a top 5 drummer of all time
Gavin’s in that class.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:30:52pm |
Music. This is much better than downstairs.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:34:22pm |
re: #4 Charles
Gavin’s in that class.
I saw Billy play at the Greek in Berkely with John Scofield on Guitar…
I consider John one of the best Fusion guitar players of all time…He is so under rated..He played funk, jazz, blues..and just monster licks…
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Bobblehead Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:34:42pm |
That CD cover always gives me the willies when I see it here.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:35:06pm |
Apparently, I’m a liberal who saw the light after 9/11 when he transformed into a so-called “anti-jihadist” and installed himself as the Grand Inquisitor of conservatism. Who knew?
Oh, and also a homosexual propagandist.
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Racer X Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:43:44pm |
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Town Of Rock Ridge Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:46:52pm |
Charles,
Go for and seek out Steven Wilson’s “Insurgentes”. Top 5 rekkid of mine right now. Dark and tasty. GH on drums, in a slightly different vein. Sadly, some panning, critically-speaking, but I still love it.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:47:01pm |
re: #8 Charles
Apparently, I’m a liberal who saw the light after 9/11 when he transformed into a so-called “anti-jihadist” and installed himself as the Grand Inquisitor of conservatism. Who knew?
Oh, and also a homosexual propagandist.
What an eejit.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:47:38pm |
re: #8 Charles
NYT had some weird article about you today too. Something about “feminist hawks.”
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quickjustice Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:47:56pm |
re: #8 Charles
I subscribe to City Journal, and I know the editor. (Taranto is a former editor of City Journal B/T/W.) Their essayists are generally of a very high calibre.
This writer seems obsessed with homosexuals. Does it occur to him that fundamentalist Muslims threaten homosexuals as well as other groups? Strange.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:48:36pm |
re: #14 Killgore Trout
NYT had some weird article about you today too. Something about “feminist hawks.”
KILLGORE - would you please go to the cookbook blog and e-mail me, so I can respond with a question I have for you?
Thanks.
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HoosierHoops Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:48:47pm |
re: #12 Town Of Rock Ridge
Charles,
Go for and seek out Steven Wilson’s “Insurgentes”. Top 5 rekkid of mine right now. Dark and tasty. GH on drums, in a slightly different vein. Sadly, some panning, critically-speaking, but I still love it.
I’m going to see the King of Leon at Verizon music center..My new favorite band..I have a new one every week
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quickjustice Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:49:38pm |
re: #14 Killgore Trout
The NYT is reading LGF? Well, I guess they have to get their news and opinion from somewhere!
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Killian Bundy Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:49:55pm |
Sebastian Faulks risks Muslim anger after calling Koran the ‘rantings of a schizophrenic’
With the Koran there are no stories. And it has no ethical dimension like the New Testament, no new plan for life.”
And in a move that is likely to anger many Muslims, he calls into question the worth of Muhammad.
“Jesus, unlike Muhammad, had interesting things to say. He proposed a revolutionary way of looking at the world: love you neighbour, love your enemy, be kind to people, the meek shall inherit the Earth. Muhammad had nothing to say to the world other than, ‘If you don’t believe in God you will burn forever.’”
Ajmal Masroor, an imam and spokesman for the Islamic Society for Britain, says he does not recognise Faulks’ description of the Koran.
“I could list thousands of scholars, politicians and academics who have given nothing but amazing praise for the Koran, and I am talking about non-Muslims. Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Nelson Mandela, Mahatma Gandhi and Bill Clinton to name just a few.
“I actually find his comments amusing, not offensive. They sound like the braying of someone who is rather resentful and un-objective, I would like to be able to sit down and have an informed debate about the Koran with him.”
He said Faulks’ statement runs the risk of stirring religious hatred against Muslims.
“Attacks on Islam are nothing new, but the danger is this will have a “drip, drip” effect.
“People don’t seem to understand the consequences of saying things like this could be quite severe. History tells us it can encourage hatred.”
Inayat Bunglawala, from the Muslim Council of Britain, said Faulks’ view of the Koran was “blinkered”.
“The Prophet Muhammad has had many detractors both during his own time and later on who described him as a ‘madman’ or ‘possessed by an evil spirit’ and so forth in an effort to drown out his beautiful message,” he added.
“Sebastian Faulks should perhaps draw a lesson from the fact that those detractors are all now long forgotten, whereas the Prophet is remembered with love and admiration.”
/which will come first, the fatwa or the seething?
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Racer X Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:52:37pm |
Listening to the whole concert on Youtube - really nice!
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Bobblehead Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:53:59pm |
re: #8 Charles
Apparently, I’m a liberal who saw the light after 9/11 when he transformed into a so-called “anti-jihadist” and installed himself as the Grand Inquisitor of conservatism. Who knew?
Oh, and also a homosexual propagandist.
LOL You are the universal man, a blank slate ready to become whatever the writer wants you to be. Who could have predicted you would come to carry this heavy burden when you started blogging all those years ago?
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Charles Johnson Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:54:26pm |
Hawkish sites that have taken up feminism include Little Green Footballs, Jihad Watch and Horowitz’s FrontPage Magazine.
What complete crap!
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Racer X Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:54:50pm |
re: #19 danrudy
AHEM…
Neil Peart
..is a monster.
My favorite drummer of all time is Keith Moon. Controlled chaos. To listen to him play you think ‘wow this guy is awesome!’. And then you watch him and you are just amazed. He looks completely out of control, and yet totally in control at the same time.
We miss you Keith.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:55:07pm |
In addition to being a homosexual propagandist, I’ve recently “taken up feminism.”
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:55:11pm |
re: #15 quickjustice
I subscribe to City Journal, and I know the editor. (Taranto is a former editor of City Journal B/T/W.) Their essayists are generally of a very high calibre.
This writer seems obsessed with homosexuals. Does it occur to him that fundamentalist Muslims threaten homosexuals as well as other groups? Strange.
He mentions it, but then goes off claiming that,
Contrary to what Bawer says, it is not true that “first they came for the gays.” First they came for the Christians, and radical homosexual activists were in the vanguard of the liberal storm troopers who silenced the Christians in Europe.
I’d like to see a teensy tiny bit of proof of that, particularly since he then claims that America’s Christian fundamentalist heritage is what keeps us going against the Islamic hordes. I don’t think it’s too extreme to note that he will then probably see danger in American ‘radical homosexual activists’ asking for anything—poor Christians!
Not a smart critique, merely an ideological one.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:55:45pm |
re: #26 Charles
Consider the feminist-hawk position — the one that advocates the use of force to liberate Muslim women from persecution and burkas. This position has become an integral part of the ideological Web. Feminist-hawk arguments may even be considered an artifact of the Web, just the way the revolutionary arguments of 18th-century America can be seen as an artifact of pamphlets.
Lol!
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Racer X Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:56:27pm |
re: #28 Charles
In addition to being a homosexual propagandist, I’ve recently “taken up feminism.”
Lesbian trapped in a man’s body. I can totally relate dude.
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Bobblehead Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:57:25pm |
re: #28 Charles
In addition to being a homosexual propagandist, I’ve recently “taken up feminism.”
There you go. A real renaissance man.
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Sharmuta Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:57:30pm |
re: #26 Charles
I’m a little surprised they selected horowitz- he’s railed against feminism for decades.
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danrudy Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:57:54pm |
re: #27 Racer X
yes…agreed.
I dont really recall their names but I also like the guys from Dream THeater (Portnoy?) and Tool.
But, Charles was right…the guy in the vid was excellent as well.
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:58:26pm |
re: #26 Charles
What complete crap!
I think the NYT is lobbying to change your assessment of them as “not completely useless.”
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:58:34pm |
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jaunte Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:58:41pm |
re: #26 Charles
“Consider the feminist-hawk position — the one that advocates the use of force to liberate Muslim women from persecution and burkas.”
The other position I suppose would be simply to leave them to their fate, or hope that the Taleban somehow would adopt better habits. What drivel.
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Bobblehead Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:58:58pm |
re: #35 Last Mohican
I think the NYT is lobbying to change your assessment of them as “not completely useless.”
Aha,ha,ha,ha…
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:58:59pm |
re: #33 Sharmuta
I’m a little surprised they selected horowitz- he’s railed against feminism for decades.
There’s a distinction between ‘feminism’ and advocating basic human rights for women. Granted, a shifting line.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Aug 23, 2009 6:59:59pm |
re: #29 SanFranciscoZionist
Contrary to what Bawer says, it is not true that “first they came for the gays.” First they came for the Christians, and radical homosexual activists were in the vanguard of the liberal storm troopers who silenced the Christians in Europe.
Actually no. “First they came for the Jews.”
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:01:23pm |
re: #37 jaunte
The other position I suppose would be simply to leave them to their fate, or hope that the Taleban somehow would adopt better habits. What drivel.
I will comment that when I was a college feminist concerned with the lives of women under the Taliban, I do not recall that we got any support from conservative groups except for a few churches. The great outpouring of concern that some people developed for the women of the Muslim world is, in most cases, a post 9/11, post-invasion of Afghanistan phenomenon.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:02:43pm |
For those following my barbecue talk last night, everything went well. All the food was awesome, and we had a really nice acoustic jam session. And I spent a lot of time with my soon to be nine year old nephew, whom I only see maybe once a year. He’s a great kid.
Despite the heat and humidity, not too much sleep last night running around all day long, and lots of beer and wine, I’m pretty ready to go back to work tomorrow.
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quickjustice Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:04:10pm |
re: #28 Charles
Welcome to the happy world of New York Times “reporting”, Charles. Believe me, you got off easy! “All the news that’s fit to fabricate” is their new slogan.
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MandyManners Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:05:54pm |
re: #26 Charles
What complete crap!
This material is expected to help seal Horowitz’s general case for the war on terror, though he has not yet changed the name of his cause to, say, the war on misogyny.
Once again, the NYT does not understand radical Islam.
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MandyManners Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:06:49pm |
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Sharmuta Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:07:08pm |
re: #39 SanFranciscoZionist
It’s his long history of railing against things such as Women’s Studies. We can certainly debate the finer points of feminism and biases that are in these sorts of classes, but often times it’s just the subject in general that gets dismissed, and I fail to see how that qualifies one as any sort of feminist.
Perhaps a “feminist hawk” is really one that’s just using feminism to support a position of aggression in the war on terror? If so, LGF doesn’t belong with the other two sites mentioned.
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jaunte Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:07:12pm |
re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist
I think Heffernan’s idea that certain concepts are only possible because of certain media is silly.
Could Rush Limbaugh’s patriotic anti-elitism have coalesced anywhere but on AM radio? Could “family values” have emerged without Christian TV?
To answer her questions, only if you read history. Patriotic anti-elitism has a long history not just in the US, and “family values” is another way of saying “tradition.”
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Erik The Red Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:09:22pm |
re: #46 MandyManners
Hey 2M. Does the kid start school tomorrow?
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lawhawk Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:09:45pm |
re: #26 Charles
What complete crap!
Well, what’d you expect. This is the NYT we’re talking about, and they’ve missed the Islamist misogyny and the steady outcry from the right over the threat and the mistreatment of women as a systemic and endemic issue in most of the world.
In fact, the NYT would be wise to pick up on the fact that the left is all too quiet over the misogyny and the violence against women around the world.
It’s been one of my ongoing themes when writing about the Islamists and the ongoing situation in Iraq and Afghanistan. Islamists treat women as little more than chattel, and the womens’ rights groups are *crickets*.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:11:34pm |
re: #8 Charles
From your link:
This blog in a nutshell: America missed the golden opportunity to nuke Mecca just after 9/11. A New Left aims to destroy Western civilization by massive immigration and by labeling “racists” those who oppose them. In the next few decades Europe will be gone because of its suicidal Islamophilia. The legacy of Lloyd deMause and Alice Miller might unearth the psychological roots of the West’s suicide.
Who the fuck runs this site?
If a group of crazed catholics flew some planes into buildings, and I got on the interwebs after that and suggested that we nuke the Vatican, everyone would be shitting golden calves. What a loon.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:11:35pm |
When the New York Times smears you as a sneaky ultra-rightie on the same day that a far right site smears you as a sneaky ultra-leftie, I believe that counts as a win.
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Bagua Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:12:05pm |
re: #53 Charles
When the New York Times smears you as a sneaky ultra-rightie on the same day that a far right site smears you as a sneaky ultra-leftie, I believe that counts as a win.
Well done indeed!
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MandyManners Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:12:17pm |
re: #50 Erik The Red
Hey 2M. Does the kid start school tomorrow?
Oh, no. He’s been in school for most of the month.
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:12:18pm |
re: #41 SanFranciscoZionist
Kudos to you for thinking of the welfare of the women being oppressed by the Taliban, back before most of us knew about the Taliban.
I’m curious, was there much interest in this from the Left? My impression is that mainstream feminism was sort of a provincial enterprise in Western countries, mostly concerned with seeking gender equality for women at home, rather than in the countries where mistreatment of women was most severe.
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mj Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:13:11pm |
Accuse First, Ask Questions Never: Mainstreaming Anti-Semitism
Three European newspapers publish the latest incarnations of the vicious blood libel.
The largest Swedish newspaper publishes an article accusing Israel of murdering Palestinians so it can sell their body parts. The largest Dutch newspaper publishes an article accusing Satan-worshipping Jews of creating swine flu and other diseases to murder large numbers of people. The newspaper of the British elite publishes an article by a well-known philosopher calling Israel a Nazi state.
How does the Swedish newspaper’s editor respond to complaints about this sort of thing? Jan Helin responds:
It’s deeply unpleasant and sad to see such a strong propaganda machine using centuries-old anti-Semitic images in an apparent attempt to get an obviously topical issue off the table.
But what is the “strong propaganda machine” that is really using anti-Semitic images to get “obviously topical” issues off the table?
The answer is not, as Helin would have it, an Israeli-Jewish propaganda machine. Since media coverage is so extremely anti-Israel — often breaking the rules of proper journalism to smite that country — it couldn’t be all that powerful.
The propaganda machine is that of the other side: Middle Eastern Arab nationalists and Islamists, or their European leftist allies. These forces produce a constant barrage of anti-Israel stories which make headlines and then are never proven to be accurate. During the last decade, there has not been a single proven case of any war crime by Israeli forces.
Yet how many millions of people are convinced otherwise by irresponsible and propagandistic media coverage?
Helin himself embodies this situation. The first question he should have asked: Are the facts in this story correct and are the claims reasonable? Instead, his response was to choose sides. The fact that both the article’s author and the editor who published it are anti-Israel activists should have made him wary regarding whether or not this story was a reasonable thing to publish.
Moreover, Helin’s justification for why the story is legitimate was itself anti-Semitic. Helin pointed out that an American Jewish man has been arrested in New York and charged with illegal organ sales, with no hint of Israeli involvement or of murder. Helin’s chain of reasoning? Since a Jew has been arrested, Israel can be accused of involvement without proof. Israel’s government can be accused of official involvement in murder without any evidence.
And this is how anti-Semitism has always worked, going back to the Middle Ages. A Jew is accused of a crime, falsely or otherwise, and all Jews are guilty. A Jew is accused of an illegal commercial transaction, and this justifies accusing the whole Jewish community of systematic murder…
Read the whole article:
[Link: pajamasmedia.com…]
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:13:31pm |
re: #53 Charles
When the New York Times smears you as a sneaky ultra-rightie on the same day that a far right site smears you as a sneaky ultra-leftie, I believe that counts as a win.
Heh.
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Sharmuta Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:13:32pm |
re: #51 lawhawk
It’s been one of my ongoing themes when writing about the Islamists and the ongoing situation in Iraq and Afghanistan. Islamists treat women as little more than chattel, and the womens’ rights groups are *crickets*.
But where is Mr Horowitz’s support against misogyny in other cultures such as ours? The fact of the matter is- he doesn’t care about misogyny, he only sees this as a means to advance the WoT and to hell with any other misogyny. He actually attacks feminism at home, so it makes me think he’s less than honest about fighting islamic misogyny.
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solomonpanting Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:14:10pm |
re: #51 lawhawk
Islamists treat women as little more than chattel, and the womens’ rights groups are *crickets*.
It could be that Islamists belong to one of the various aggrieved groups for whom discrimination does not lay within the realm of possible characteristics.
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lawhawk Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:15:06pm |
re: #56 Last Mohican
It was an interest only to the extent that you’d rally a fundraiser around it. Action - decisive action to force change to eliminate a regime such as that? Nope.
It’s not all that different than the Darfur genocide. The left is good at talking an issue to death - that it’s important to act and to raise awareness, but quite another to force the issue to a head and act to solve the problem.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:15:57pm |
re: #51 lawhawk
Well, what’d you expect. This is the NYT we’re talking about, and they’ve missed the Islamist misogyny and the steady outcry from the right over the threat and the mistreatment of women as a systemic and endemic issue in most of the world.
In fact, the NYT would be wise to pick up on the fact that the left is all too quiet over the misogyny and the violence against women around the world.
It’s been one of my ongoing themes when writing about the Islamists and the ongoing situation in Iraq and Afghanistan. Islamists treat women as little more than chattel, and the womens’ rights groups are *crickets*.
That’s because the oppression of black and brown women by black and brown men is always the result of post-colonialist white European oppression. White Euros should recognize that they are the ones responsible for this.
/need I?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:16:21pm |
re: #52 Slumbering Behemoth
Who the fuck runs
thisthat site?
PIMF!
Geez, you’d think english was my second language.
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:17:01pm |
re: #61 lawhawk
It was an interest only to the extent that you’d rally a fundraiser around it. Action - decisive action to force change to eliminate a regime such as that? Nope.
It’s not all that different than the Darfur genocide. The left is good at talking an issue to death - that it’s important to act and to raise awareness, but quite another to force the issue to a head and act to solve the problem.
I suppose I could see that. Sort of like how “Free Tibet” makes for an excellent T-shirt. The Tibetan flag is so very colorful.
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MandyManners Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:18:39pm |
You can be born with any “racial” genetics but, you are born either male or female. *That* is the basic line dividing humanity.
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Bobblehead Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:20:00pm |
re: #53 Charles
When the New York Times smears you as a sneaky ultra-rightie on the same day that a far right site smears you as a sneaky ultra-leftie, I believe that counts as a win.
One cancels out the other and you’re back to square one.
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Bagua Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:20:37pm |
re: #65 MandyManners
You can be born with any “racial” genetics but, you are born either male or female. *That* is the basic line dividing humanity.
Except of course those born as hermaphrodites.
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Vicious Babushka Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:21:11pm |
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:21:36pm |
re: #53 Charles
When the New York Times smears you as a sneaky ultra-rightie on the same day that a far right site smears you as a sneaky ultra-leftie, I believe that counts as a win.
Absolutely. And it’s a double win when Ryan the Reason-Seeking Obama Supporter sends you a complimentary email on the same day.
I wonder if it would be possible to be praised by the New York Times as an ultra-leftie, and praised by a far-right site as an ultra-righty, also on the same day. I’m not so sure I’d consider that one a win, but it would certainly be an interesting feat.
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TedStriker Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:22:07pm |
re: #51 lawhawk
Well, what’d you expect. This is the NYT we’re talking about, and they’ve
missedignored the Islamist misogyny and the steady outcry from the right over the threat and the mistreatment of women as a systemic and endemic issue in most of the world.In fact, the NYT would be wise to pick up on the fact that the left is all too quiet over the misogyny and the violence against women around the world.
It’s been one of my ongoing themes when writing about the Islamists and the ongoing situation in Iraq and Afghanistan. Islamists treat women as little more than chattel, and the womens’ rights groups are *crickets*.
FTFY…
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lincolntf Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:22:28pm |
re: #64 Last Mohican
That reminds me of one more thing that has been swept under the One’s rug.
Can you imagine the heartbreak in Tibet a few months ago when Hillary declared that their human rights were no longer a priority of the United States? If this was a Republican Admin., that statement would have been the green light for every media company to go over and document the suffering of the Tibetans.
Since Wee-Wee is running the show, the Tibetans are brutally oppressed without a peep from our Lefties.
I always knew they hated this country, but what do they have against Tibet?
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Bagua Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:23:39pm |
re: #69 Last Mohican
Absolutely. And it’s a double win when Ryan the Reason-Seeking Obama Supporter sends you a complimentary email on the same day.
I wonder if it would be possible to be praised by the New York Times as an ultra-leftie, and praised by a far-right site as an ultra-righty, also on the same day. I’m not so sure I’d consider that one a win, but it would certainly be an interesting feat.
Well, we’ve heard allot recently about how fascists are really leftists and such, who knows what nonsense is coming next.
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Sharmuta Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:26:07pm |
Guess I have a way radical take- I see two men using feminism as a means of advancing their crypto-fascist agenda who otherwise have no claim to the title “feminist”. I find Charles getting lumped in with two such men to be an insult to Charles.
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Erik The Red Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:29:24pm |
www.emailjokes.co.za...]>www.emailjokes.co.za…]>The (d)evolution of communication
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:30:41pm |
Got this in one of those chain-emails recently. Not sure if any of these anecdotes are factual, but it is a fun read none the less:
At a time when our president and other politicians tend to apologize for our country`s prior actions, here`s a refresher on how some of our former patriots handled negative comments about our country
JFK’S Secretary of State, Dean Rusk, was in France in the early 60’s when DeGaule decided to pull out of NATO. DeGaule said he wanted all US military out of France as soon as possible… Rusk responded “does that include those who are buried here? DeGuale did not respond.
you could have heard a pin drop…
~~~
When in England, at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by the Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of empire building by George Bush. He answered by saying, ‘Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return.’
You could have heard a pin drop. ~~~
There was a conference in France where a number of international engineers were taking part, including French and American. During a break, one of the French engineers came back into the room saying ‘Have you heard the latest dumb stunt Bush has done? He has sent an aircraft carrier to Indonesia to help the tsunami victims. What does he intended to do, bomb them?’ A Boeing engineer stood up and replied quietly: ‘Our carriers have three hospitals on board that can treat several hundred people; they are nuclear powered and can supply emergency electrical power to shore facilities; they have three cafeterias with the capacity to feed 3,000 people three meals a day, they can produce several thousand gallons of fresh water from sea water each day, and they carry half a dozen helicopters for use in transporting victims and injured to and from their flight deck. We have eleven such ships; how many does France have?’
You could have heard a pin drop.
~~~
A U.S. Navy Admiral was attending a naval conference that included Admirals from the U.S., English, Canadian, Australian and French Navies. At a cocktail reception, he found himself standing with a large group of Officers that included personnel from most of those countries. Everyone was chatting away in English as they sipped their drinks when a French admiral suddenly complained that, whereas Europeans learn many languages, Americans learn only English. He then asked,’Why is it that we always have to speak English in these conferences rather than speaking French?’ Without hesitating, the American Admiral replied, ‘Maybe it’s because the Brit’s, Canadians, Aussie’s and Americans arranged it so you wouldn’t have to speak German.’
You could have heard a pin drop…
~~~
AND THIS STORY FITS RIGHT IN WITH THE ABOVE…
Robert Whiting, an elderly American gentleman of 83, arrived in Paris by plane a week ago. At French Customs, he took a few minutes to locate his passport in his carry on.
“You have been to France before, monsieur correct?” the customs officer asked sarcastically.
Mr. Whiting admitted that he had been to France previously.
“Then you should know enough to have your passport ready.”
The American said, ‘The last time I was here, I didn’t have to show it.”
“Impossible. Americans always have to show your passports on arrival in France !” The American senior gave the Frenchman a long hard look. Then he quietly explained, ”Well, when I came ashore at Omaha Beach on D-Day in 1944 to help liberate this country, I couldn’t find a single one of you Frenchmen to show a passport to.”
You could have heard a pin drop.
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:30:49pm |
re: #71 lincolntf
That reminds me of one more thing that has been swept under the One’s rug.
Can you imagine the heartbreak in Tibet a few months ago when Hillary declared that their human rights were no longer a priority of the United States? If this was a Republican Admin., that statement would have been the green light for every media company to go over and document the suffering of the Tibetans.
Since Wee-Wee is running the show, the Tibetans are brutally oppressed without a peep from our Lefties.
I always knew they hated this country, but what do they have against Tibet?
probably because they are under the jackboot of their Maoist Chinese overlords
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freetoken Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:31:19pm |
re: #53 Charles
… I believe that counts as a win.
With bonus points!
/It’s like winning both games of a double header by stealing home.
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TedStriker Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:31:25pm |
re: #71 lincolntf
That reminds me of one more thing that has been swept under the One’s rug.
Can you imagine the heartbreak in Tibet a few months ago when Hillary declared that their human rights were no longer a priority of the United States? If this was a Republican Admin., that statement would have been the green light for every media company to go over and document the suffering of the Tibetans.
Since Wee-Wee is running the show, the Tibetans are brutally oppressed without a peep from our Lefties.
I always knew they hated this country, but what do they have against Tibet?
Because liberals that are in or thirst for power over others generally don’t care about the “oppressed” (such as Tibetians), unless it furthers their acquisition/hold on power…once the power is held or achieved, the “oppressed” are cast aside as refuse.
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Bagua Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:36:04pm |
re: #73 Sharmuta
Guess I have a way radical take- I see two men using feminism as a means of advancing their crypto-fascist agenda who otherwise have no claim to the title “feminist”. I find Charles getting lumped in with two such men to be an insult to Charles.
I think it a given that both critics are ignoramuses…
but I can’t support that with facts as I couldn’t be bothered to read their tosh.
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Mich-again Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:38:54pm |
re: #79 talon_262
The oppressed are just bargaining chips.
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Scion9 Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:40:59pm |
Went to a Porcupine Tree show in Baltimore a few years ago around the time that their Deadwing Album came out. I didn’t really know anything about them but they were my friend’s favorite band and it was his birthday so I treated him to a show. I was definitely impressed though.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:43:11pm |
re: #56 Last Mohican
Kudos to you for thinking of the welfare of the women being oppressed by the Taliban, back before most of us knew about the Taliban.
I’m curious, was there much interest in this from the Left? My impression is that mainstream feminism was sort of a provincial enterprise in Western countries, mostly concerned with seeking gender equality for women at home, rather than in the countries where mistreatment of women was most severe.
Sort of mixed, and of course, complicated by the whole U.S./Soviet involvement in Afghanistan in the previous decade. The mainstream feminist movement was doing a sort of international turn at the time and was largely approving. Most of the concern went toward women in sweatshop labor or the sex industry, but the Afghans were OK by them.
The hardcord Marxist left, of course, would have had no time for such nonsense, but most of us in college didn’t like the hardcore Marxists. They were such downers!
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Lincolntf Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:43:41pm |
451-447-4
That is the record of the Red Sox versus the Yankees at Fenway Park.
100+ years of baseball seasons and they are within 4 games of each other. Gotta love this sport.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:45:32pm |
re: #57 mj
Accuse First, Ask Questions Never: Mainstreaming Anti-Semitism
Three European newspapers publish the latest incarnations of the vicious blood libel.
Read the whole article:
[Link: pajamasmedia.com…]
Can someone link me to the Dutch thing? I haven’t heard this one.
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MandyManners Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:45:54pm |
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Erik The Red Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:47:34pm |
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lawhawk Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:47:38pm |
OT:
US Military says it has insufficient forces in Afghanistan.
It’s not just the numbers but the kind of forces; and the Afghans military is even further behind the Iraqi army as far as developing a professional cadre upon which US and ISAF can rely upon.
Perceptions matter, and Afghanistan remains tenuous at best. The US and its allies need to continue dealing with the Taliban and have to build the Afghan military all while dealing with Pakistan and the frontier provinces where the Taliban receive safe haven and whose border is crossed with alarming regularity.
Increasing the military commitment is needed, not only to allow the US commanders the ability to carry out more offensive operations against Taliban troops, but to secure and hold territory against Taliban infiltration. The ISAF is less likely to engage in offensive operations. That’s an ongoing problem.
It will be curious to see what Democrats have to say about that.
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freetoken Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:50:07pm |
I see that a climate change thread happened while I was at the gym… never fails. And I had a window full tabs of climate-change news … Anyway, onward and upward.
Has anyone else noticed an explosive upward trend in food prices? At my local Safeway corp supermarket I’ve noticed the “regular” prices on many items I buy have gone up noticeably, while the “sale” prices have stayed about the same. The only good deals are produce at the peak of the season (which this week appears to be peaches.)
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:51:00pm |
re: #53 Charles
When the New York Times smears you as a sneaky ultra-rightie on the same day that a far right site smears you as a sneaky ultra-leftie, I believe that counts as a win.
Quite Concur.
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Sharmuta Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:52:26pm |
re: #89 freetoken
I’m sure some sleepers will pop up on that thread for you to spar with later.
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Erik The Red Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:52:40pm |
re: #88 lawhawk
OT:
US Military says it has insufficient forces in Afghanistan.It’s not just the numbers but the kind of forces; and the Afghans military is even further behind the Iraqi army as far as developing a professional cadre upon which US and ISAF can rely upon.
Perceptions matter, and Afghanistan remains tenuous at best. The US and its allies need to continue dealing with the Taliban and have to build the Afghan military all while dealing with Pakistan and the frontier provinces where the Taliban receive safe haven and whose border is crossed with alarming regularity.
Increasing the military commitment is needed, not only to allow the US commanders the ability to carry out more offensive operations against Taliban troops, but to secure and hold territory against Taliban infiltration. The ISAF is less likely to engage in offensive operations. That’s an ongoing problem.
It will be curious to see what Democrats have to say about that.
It is only a matter of time before 44 cuts and runs. All he is waiting for is a way to spin the withdrawal. This is a no win war, unless he is willing to commit all of the US resources to it.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:52:57pm |
re: #57 mj
Accuse First, Ask Questions Never: Mainstreaming Anti-Semitism
Three European newspapers publish the latest incarnations of the vicious blood libel.
Read the whole article:
[Link: pajamasmedia.com…]
Just plain hateful. This has been seen before and it never ends well.
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Bobblehead Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:53:41pm |
This is fun:
8-Bit Trip Stop-Motion Lego Animation
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:54:26pm |
re: #92 Erik The Red
It is only a matter of time before 44 cuts and runs. All he is waiting for is a way to spin the withdrawal. This is a no win war, unless he is willing to commit all of the US resources to it.
And that last we can’t really do. WE couldn’t supply an Iraq-sized troop strength in Afghanistan. We have to find a way to do more with less.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:55:25pm |
re: #89 freetoken
I haven’t noticed a hike in food prices but a lot of grocery stores jack up thier prices on weekends and then lower them later in the week. Especially wine and beer.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:56:01pm |
re: #96 Killgore Trout
I haven’t noticed a hike in food prices but a lot of grocery stores jack up thier prices on weekends and then lower them later in the week. Especially wine and beer.
Safeway did a dramatic store-wide price-drop this summer.
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Bobblehead Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:56:23pm |
re: #96 Killgore Trout
I haven’t noticed a hike in food prices but a lot of grocery stores jack up thier prices on weekends and then lower them later in the week. Especially wine and beer.
Gas stations here in OH do the same thing.
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:56:53pm |
re: #84 Lincolntf
451-447-4
That is the record of the Red Sox versus the Yankees at Fenway Park.
100+ years of baseball seasons and they are within 4 games of each other. Gotta love this sport.
astounding really…and baseballs greatest iconic hero played for both teams…Babe Ruth
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Killgore Trout Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:57:18pm |
re: #94 Bobblehead
Cool video but the music makes me feel like I’m being attacked by space bugs.
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Erik The Red Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:57:27pm |
re: #96 Killgore Trout
I haven’t noticed a hike in food prices but a lot of grocery stores jack up thier prices on weekends and then lower them later in the week. Especially wine and beer.
Is there something wrong with that?
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Killgore Trout Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:58:14pm |
re: #101 Erik The Red
I just shop during the week. No problem for me.
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mj Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:58:18pm |
re: #85 SanFranciscoZionist
Can someone link me to the Dutch thing? I haven’t heard this one.
‘Jews To Blame For Swine Flu’
World Jewry this week hit out at a Dutch ‘healer’ who has blamed the swine flu outbreak on the Jewish community.
Speaking to Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf Saturday, Desiree Rover said the virus is a conspiracy of pharmaceutical companies, intent on increasing their profits through the sale of swine flu tablet Tamiflu and decreasing the population by spreading the sometimes deadly strain.
Rover, 61, a ‘natural healer’ with no medical training, proposed the conspiracy can be traced to the Khazar Jews, a group who are believed to have converted 1,200 years ago.
De Telegraaf quoted Rover as saying descendants of the group are now “praying to another god; Lucifer, Satan or however you want to call him” and “are called Rockefeller, Rothschild, Brzezinski and Kissinger”…
[Link: www.totallyjewish.com…]
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lawhawk Sun, Aug 23, 2009 7:58:46pm |
re: #92 Erik The Red
Obama is under pressure from the right and moderates and independents not to cut and run from Afghanistan - the one good war according to left dogma. If he does anything to cut and withdraw without securing objectives, like eliminating al Qaeda and Taliban, it will be a national security fiasco for the left - and more fuel for the right’s claim that the left can’t be trusted on national security grounds.
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freetoken Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:00:29pm |
re: #91 Sharmuta
I’m sure some sleepers will pop up on that thread for you to spar with later.
Oh, I suppose… but sleepers have their own issues besides that of AGW. That they never show up on the current thread, where there will be people with whom to interact, is the give-away of their condition.
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mikeymom Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:01:53pm |
re: #97 SanFranciscoZionist
Safeway did a dramatic store-wide price-drop this summer.
they did here in co too- i think because king soopers here are kicking safeways butt- KS over hauled all their stores-put in a lot of goumet stations and drastically lowered produce , deli, and meat prices. safeway is trying to keep up-
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Bobblehead Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:02:09pm |
re: #100 Killgore Trout
Cool video but the music makes me feel like I’m being attacked by space bugs.
Sounded like the music on some of my son’s old 8 bit games. Drove me crazy.
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Lincolntf Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:02:36pm |
re: #92 Erik The Red
No. That is unacceptable.
Leaving Afghanistan is an absolute non-starter. We will be there forever if that’s as long as it takes. We might not always be fighting, but we will never leave. Just like we never left Germany, Korea, Japan.
(When I say “never” I mean at least for our lifetimes.)
No Presidernt can leave ‘stan to the terrorists (even if he wants to) because of the certainty that the next massive terrorist attack would be brewed there.
Not even the wooly-headed Leftists really want us to leave that country to Al-Qaeda.
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freetoken Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:03:23pm |
BTW, I’m watching the videos Charles posted downstairs… not bad, but I cringe every time a complex scientific subject gets highly simplified in videos intended for general consumption. The problem is that, no matter how well intended, statements in videos like these get to be talking points among nay-sayers who pick up on every little overgeneralization.
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Erik The Red Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:04:09pm |
re: #104 lawhawk
Obama is under pressure from the right and moderates and independents not to cut and run from Afghanistan - the one good war according to left dogma. If he does anything to cut and withdraw without securing objectives, like eliminating al Qaeda and Taliban, it will be a national security fiasco for the left - and more fuel for the right’s claim that the left can’t be trusted on national security grounds.
They can be trusted? 44 has not done anything, that I have seen, to indicate that he cares what the right thinks.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:04:11pm |
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minor threat Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:04:40pm |
Not to quibble, but …
Regarding Harrison’s “monster” status: saw him on the most recent King Crimson tour. In a word: disappointing.
Incessant blast beats from a double-pedal on the kick drum may make a Deathcore fan go weak in the knees, but to these ears the technique usually screams “please listen elsewhere if you want to hear real chops” (apologies to Mr. Cobham if anyone mistakenly infers that this critique applies to him).
May I submit a quick and subjective list of drumming “Godzillas” (all living, playing, and in no particular order):
Brian Blade
Jeff Ballard
David King
Billy Hart
Jim Black
Mark Guiliana
Tyshawn Sorey
Dan Weiss
Chris Dave
Nate Wood
Bill Stewart
Ari Hoenig
And that’s just a slow paradiddle worth of percussionists. I didn’t even get to DeJohnette and ‘Tain’ and Strickland and Harland and …
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Erik The Red Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:06:32pm |
re: #108 Lincolntf
No. That is unacceptable.
Leaving Afghanistan is an absolute non-starter. We will be there forever if that’s as long as it takes. We might not always be fighting, but we will never leave. Just like we never left Germany, Korea, Japan.
(When I say “never” I mean at least for our lifetimes.)
No Presidernt can leave ‘stan to the terrorists (even if he wants to) because of the certainty that the next massive terrorist attack would be brewed there.
Not even the wooly-headed Leftists really want us to leave that country to Al-Qaeda.
It is unacceptable to you, me and other conservatives. I would not put anything past 44.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:06:45pm |
re: #112 minor threat
Not alive, but Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich.
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sngnsgt Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:07:23pm |
re: #94 Bobblehead
Now there’s someone with too much time on their hands… (great work tho)
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solomonpanting Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:08:18pm |
re: #103 mj
De Telegraaf quoted Rover as saying descendants of the group are now “praying to another god; Lucifer, Satan or however you want to call him” and “are called Rockefeller, Rothschild, Brzezinski and Kissinger”…
Rockefeller and Brzezinski are Jewish?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:09:30pm |
re: #113 Erik The Red
It is unacceptable to you, me and other conservatives. I would not put anything past 44.
Still, I feel Lincoln is on to something. My new question is what to do about Karzai? It’s looking like he stole the election, and I wonder how we’ll be sble to support a crook like that. For Obama, it’ll be easy but maybe not for the rest of the left.
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Bobblehead Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:10:14pm |
re: #115 sngnsgt
Now there’s someone with too much time on their hands… (great work tho)
My favorite Lego video:
Darth Vader at the Death Star Canteen
I laugh every time I watch it.
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:10:43pm |
re: #114 Mad Al-Jaffee
Not alive, but Gene Krupa and Buddy Rich.
nobody ever mentions Little Feat’s Richie Hayward…just not famous enough
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Lincolntf Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:11:55pm |
re: #113 Erik The Red
I hear ya, and Wee-Wee has certainly shown a propensity for knee-jerk stupidity, but I still have to think that we won’t leave for decades.
It would almost be a crime against humanity to grant Al-Qaeda/the Taliban free reign in A’stan.
The Paki nukes would be threatened daily, the Indians would get itchy, it would be a huge honking mess.
We’ll be there for a long, long time.
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freetoken Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:12:12pm |
re: #117 Dark_Falcon
If there are any reasonable questions over the legitimacy of Karzai’s re-election then it will become a flash point in the arguments we have with other nations to keep supporting the current efforts in Afghanistan, I fear.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:12:49pm |
re: #120 albusteve
I love the few Little Feat songs I know (and have played), but I don’t have any of their albums and I’ve never seen them. I have to get some of their stuff.
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jvic Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:13:16pm |
re: #89 freetoken
Has anyone else noticed an explosive upward trend in food prices? At my local Safeway corp supermarket I’ve noticed the “regular” prices on many items I buy have gone up noticeably, while the “sale” prices have stayed about the same. The only good deals are produce at the peak of the season (which this week appears to be peaches.)
I wondered the same thing recently:
Are food prices rising significantly? They remain a small part of my budget because I buy cheap and in bulk, but I have the impression (which could be mistaken) that a lot of prices are wriggling upward.
For example, tea and canned soup.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:14:01pm |
re: #122 freetoken
If there are any reasonable questions over the legitimacy of Karzai’s re-election then it will become a flash point in the arguments we have with other nations to keep supporting the current efforts in Afghanistan, I fear.
Must concur with your assessment.
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Erik The Red Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:14:49pm |
re: #117 Dark_Falcon
Still, I feel Lincoln is on to something. My new question is what to do about Karzai? It’s looking like he stole the election, and I wonder how we’ll be sble to support a crook like that. For Obama, it’ll be easy but maybe not for the rest of the left.
Don’t get me wrong. I think being there is right and needed. I just wonder if 44 has the balls to get things done, with the least number of deaths. When the toll over takes Iraq’s what is he going to do?
I just hope he keeps listening to the best people on the ground over there and not the polls.
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:15:00pm |
re: #88 lawhawk
OT:
US Military says it has insufficient forces in Afghanistan.It will be curious to see what Democrats have to say about that.
I just noticed that as Drudge’s headline, too. I suspect this story will disappear pretty quickly, because it doesn’t fit any of the MSM’s major narratives. What are we supposed to do with it?
1. Bush’s aggression is evil, and leads us into peril.
2. Everything will fall right into place when Obama takes office.
3. Success in international relations can be achieved by using less force and making more concessions.
This story doesn’t make fit into any of those narratives, so I think everyone will just forget about it. Sort of like how Bush quietly saved a million African lives, but as far as the national memory is concerned, George Bush doesn’t care about black people.
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:15:48pm |
re: #123 Mad Al-Jaffee
I love the few Little Feat songs I know (and have played), but I don’t have any of their albums and I’ve never seen them. I have to get some of their stuff.
you certainly won’t be disappointed…a promise I can easily make…pick up ‘Chinese Work Song’ for a fell for them…then get back to me and describe their sound…and they are by far the best live gig I have ever seen…tremendous musicianship
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mj Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:15:51pm |
re: #116 solomonpanting
Rockefeller and Brzezinski are Jewish?
Least concern of the smears. It’s the blood libel which is serious and the fact that two European newspapers published them without hesitation. This after the BBC and other media outlets continue to publish the al-Dura blood libel.
Old line American antisemites used to say Roosevelt was a Jew too (Rosenfelt was common currency…probably among Pat Buchanan’s family among others.)
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:17:10pm |
re: #116 solomonpanting
Rockefeller and Brzezinski are Jewish?
Bite your tongue. The Rockefellers were Baptists, and Brzezinski’s people are some kind of Polish nobility. But some people hear the names and assume.
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:17:33pm |
re: #126 Erik The Red
Don’t get me wrong. I think being there is right and needed. I just wonder if 44 has the balls to get things done, with the least number of deaths. When the toll over takes Iraq’s what is he going to do?
I just hope he keeps listening to the best people on the ground over there and not the polls.
we will be gone soon enough from there…the will and the cost are too great to go it alone…Afghanistan gives me a very sick feeling
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:17:47pm |
re: #117 Dark_Falcon
I used to correspond with a Pashtun Afghan immigrant (I actually got him to get an account here, but he never posted) who seriously despised Karzai. His blog was fascinating, but he hasn’t posted in a while: Afghanistan Between Violence and Development [Link: the-rumi.blogspot.com…]
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:20:29pm |
re: #128 albusteve
you certainly won’t be disappointed…a promise I can easily make…pick up ‘Chinese Work Song’ for a fell for them…then get back to me and describe their sound…and they are by far the best live gig I have ever seen…tremendous musicianship
Thanks! I’ll have to get that soon. I know that they’re an amazing blues/roots rock band and I shouldn’t neglect them. We had a really nice acoustic jam at my barbecue today (first time I really got to wail on acoustic harmonica in quite a while.) Lots of blues, swing, country and Grateful Dead songs (mainly their more rootsy stuff - very little of the jam band stuff, which I can appreciate, but it’s not really right for an acoustic jam.)
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Erik The Red Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:22:56pm |
Later Lizards. Hope everyone has as good Monday as is possible. :)
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:25:52pm |
re: #116 solomonpanting
Rockefeller and Brzezinski are Jewish?
Remember in 2007, when Vanity Fair released its list of the world’s 100 most powerful people, and half of them were supposedly Jewish?
I stumbled upon one vicious, troglodyte anti-Semitic hate site that was claiming that actually 90% of the people on the list were Jewish. I can’t find the original site, but here is some idiot who quoted that list on a blog. According to him, famous Jews include Al Gore, Bono, Robert De Niro, Giorgio Armani, Tom Cruise, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Mick Jagger, and Donnatella Versace.
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BothAndWorld Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:27:00pm |
In Absentia is one of my favorite rock albums of all time. Thanks for the excellent music post.
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:29:16pm |
re: #136 Last Mohican
Ha! did you see the last comment on your 2nd link? “You need some tech geeks to see to your Jewdar”
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Cato the Elder Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:30:57pm |
re: #8 Charles
Apparently, I’m a liberal who saw the light after 9/11 when he transformed into a so-called “anti-jihadist” and installed himself as the Grand Inquisitor of conservatism. Who knew?
Oh, and also a homosexual propagandist.
That, and a Feminist Hawk, all in one day? How do you manage it?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:31:21pm |
re: #138 MrPaulRevere
Ha! did you see the last comment on your 2nd link? “You need some tech geeks to see to your Jewdar”
He needs some shrinks to see to his sanity. What medicine is prescribed for Bad Craziness?
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solomonpanting Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:33:18pm |
re: #136 Last Mohican
I just knew Jews control the world, but now I have proof.
;)
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Lincolntf Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:34:34pm |
re: #131 albusteve
If we were to leave, how long do you think it wouild be before we were back? One year? Maybe 3? Certainly not as long as 5. The strategists know this.
We’ll stay, no matter what Obama does or doesn’t do. It’s the nature of War. You can’t just call it off when you’re tired.
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:35:01pm |
re: #138 MrPaulRevere
Ha! did you see the last comment on your 2nd link? “You need some tech geeks to see to your Jewdar”
Didn’t notice it. That’s funny!
I guess this is the sort of thing that happens when you accidentally copy and paste content from a hard-core racist hate site into some general site where disaffected hipsters hang out between bong hits. Oops!
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:35:29pm |
re: #133 Mad Al-Jaffee
Thanks! I’ll have to get that soon. I know that they’re an amazing blues/roots rock band and I shouldn’t neglect them. We had a really nice acoustic jam at my barbecue today (first time I really got to wail on acoustic harmonica in quite a while.) Lots of blues, swing, country and Grateful Dead songs (mainly their more rootsy stuff - very little of the jam band stuff, which I can appreciate, but it’s not really right for an acoustic jam.)
what a life eh?…good for you, music out back on the porch is a good as any…no load in, load out to speak of…John Hiatts “Crossing the Muddy Waters’ was recorded on his porch I believe
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:38:11pm |
re: #142 Lincolntf
If we were to leave, how long do you think it wouild be before we were back? One year? Maybe 3? Certainly not as long as 5. The strategists know this.
We’ll stay, no matter what Obama does or doesn’t do. It’s the nature of War. You can’t just call it off when you’re tired.
the CinC can do whatever he wants…I don’t trust BO an inch to do the right thing…Afghanistan is a political problem for him, not a moral one…he does not do what’s right, he does what he wants…he will bug out when the time comes
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mj Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:41:50pm |
Those who might think that the Sweden case is unique, might consider reading Poison by Raphael Israeli.
Here’s a snippet of a review by Alyssa Lappen on the book:
On March 21, 1983, girls at Arrabeh school near Jenin were reportedly poisoned en masse. Before classes began at 8 a.m., a 17-year-old student ran to the window, coughed, complained of breathing difficulties, headache, nausea, drowsiness and stomach pains. Then 17 more girls became ill. On March 22, West Bank health services director Dr. Hussein Ubeid confirmed visiting the school and reported a sharp odor that irritated his nostrils and throat…Reported here are findings of 15 scientists dispatched to the sites, who found zero evidence of food, water, gas or pesticide poisoning or pollution. But Israeli health director general Dr. Baruch Modan’s assurances—that there were “neither poisoning nor a physical disease, nor any obscure scheme against those young women’s health”—
fell on deaf ears.As the author shows, journalists attributed to military sources “news” of “poisonous substances”—supposedly “sprinkled on the curtains of the classrooms.” Furthermore, Islamic, Arab, Soviet block and Western European media reproduced, often verbatim, “accusations and statements regarding the mass poisoning,”—including unsubstantiated claims “that nerve gas was used in this affair…”
[Link: www.amazon.com…]
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Lincolntf Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:42:11pm |
re: #145 albusteve
If he could do whatever he wanted, Gitmo would be closed.
Occasionally even powerful idiots like Wee-Wee have to listen to their betters.
He will not leave A’stan because of the certainty that that would be considered a defeat. He might not manage the war well, but he will not bail. Not unless he’s suicidal.
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sngnsgt Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:47:13pm |
Sci-fi geeks: First episode of “Warehouse” is on TNT. (Pacific time)
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victor_yugo Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:52:27pm |
If ever I do a nymshift in the future, my new nick will be:
Steppenpug.
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:52:33pm |
Anybody in the mood for something completely different?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:53:42pm |
Night before last, and tonight, there’ve been fireworks near my house. Occurred to me this evening to wonder if they’re being set off for Ramadan. Is that done?
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keithgabryelski Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:55:10pm |
version 2.0 of the health care questions is posted:
[Link: sites.google.com…]
I’m now concentrating on filling in the questions that are answered, so we can concentrate on asking those questions that are getting dodged.
If you notice a question that is on the document that you know was answered (even if the answer was a dodge — well, especially if it was dodged) I would like a link to it so I can record it.
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Mich-again Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:55:23pm |
We were watching the Little League World Series and I saw Curacao give up a cheap run to Japan because they were throwing the ball around. Catcher tries to pick off the guy at 2nd, ball ends up in Centerfield, Centerfielder picks it up and throws it over the 3rd baseman’s head, boom.. run scores. This year I coached my son’s LL team and I remember 2 things that drove me crazy. Same 2 things that probably drove my coaches crazy when I was a kid. Looking at the 3rd strike, and throwing the ball around. “DON’T THROW THE BALL AROUND!” Anyone who ever coached LL baseball had to laugh at that whole scene.
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:57:29pm |
danrudy, what you are doing is not cool at all. If you have issues with Sharmuta, debate her.
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 8:58:04pm |
re: #154 SanFranciscoZionist
Night before last, and tonight, there’ve been fireworks near my house. Occurred to me this evening to wonder if they’re being set off for Ramadan. Is that done?
Only on the 27th day of Ramadan, according to Christy Ferguson’s grade 5-7 class on Islam.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:00:52pm |
re: #158 Last Mohican
Only on the 27th day of Ramadan, according to Christy Ferguson’s grade 5-7 class on Islam.
Hmm. Well, thanks. I’ve been trying to figure out why the hell there’s fireworks, and I suddenly thought that might be it.
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Karmapolice Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:01:57pm |
My stepfather, a Muslim, is talking about getting a goat to sacrifice for Ramadan. I’m totally open to it, though, because I’ve been craving gyros.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:04:51pm |
re: #144 albusteve
what a life eh?…good for you, music out back on the porch is a good as any…no load in, load out to speak of…John Hiatts “Crossing the Muddy Waters’ was recorded on his porch I believe
Yeah it was. And I got to play with my step brother for the first time in a couple of years. We both grew up musically on rock and roots music and we got to revisit a lot of songs we used to play together.
I used to go to a Saturday afternoon jam very close to home that I haven’t been to in quote a while. I might go there next week:
www.acousticblues.com
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:05:41pm |
re: #160 Karmapolice
My stepfather, a Muslim, is talking about getting a goat to sacrifice for Ramadan. I’m totally open to it, though, because I’ve been craving gyros.
I once heard a wonderful story from a woman who taught ESL in a school near me. On whatever day it is you sacrifice the goat, some kids were out of school. The next day, one boy came back, and while they were doing their journal writing, starts a quiet conversation with a friend.
“Dude, you stay home yesterday?”
“Nah, my folks made me come to school.”
“Well, did you kill a goat?”
“Nah.”
“Dude! Why not?”
“Dude, do you realize, you can’t buy a live goat with food stamps in this country?”
“Dude.”
Then, silence and journaling. My friend had to step out into the hall to laugh, or she might have died.
She says if she ever writes a book about her experiences teaching, it will be titled “You Can’t Buy A Live Goat With Food Stamps In This Country”.
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:05:51pm |
re: #159 SanFranciscoZionist
Hmm. Well, thanks. I’ve been trying to figure out why the hell there’s fireworks, and I suddenly thought that might be it.
Well, but it’s not the 27th day of Ramadan yet, is it? I thought Ramadan just started a few days ago.
Ramadan sure flies by these days, huh?
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:07:50pm |
re: #163 Last Mohican
Well, but it’s not the 27th day of Ramadan yet, is it? I thought Ramadan just started a few days ago.
Ramadan sure flies by these days, huh?
Today was the third of Elul, so I think it must have been the third day of Ramadan.
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:08:33pm |
Good evening y’all! Hope everyone is doing well tonight!
Uh, Charles if you’re still around, there’s something I don’t understand about that Feminism thing. I don’t really think anyone can say you are not anti-jihadist (except perhaps for the anti-jihadists who say it’s all in the mind) - as in the jihadists that murder innocent civilians. Nor for that matter do I think anyone can honestly say that you’ve EVER said anything even neutral, much less positive of the way the Taliban - radical Islam treats women.
So WTH is the NYT talking about with regards to you and suddenly you’re a “Feminist Hawk”?
Seems to me you’re just standing up for humanity - equal and non-violent treatment for women and for men and that you are against those who “wage war” by deliberating targeting civilians for murder.
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NY Nana Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:09:32pm |
re: #28 Charles
/Where do you find the time to blog?
He must be lizard-green with jealousy. Oh, and also psychotic.
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:09:47pm |
re: #165 realwest
PIMF: (except perhaps for the jihadists who say it’s all in the mind).
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:10:01pm |
Great news out of Nevada: Harry Reid is in deep trouble.
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Racer X Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:12:43pm |
Really cool restaurant idea.
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sngnsgt Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:13:05pm |
re: #168 Dark_Falcon.
Good, I’m not going to be the only one in NV glad to see him go.
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:13:09pm |
re: #168 Dark_Falcon
Great news out of Nevada: Harry Reid is in deep trouble.
But that was a small poll, and there’s still plenty of time to bring billions of dollars of stimulus pork into Nevada before the next election.
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Syrah Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:15:24pm |
re: #168 Dark_Falcon
Great news out of Nevada: Harry Reid is in deep trouble.
Seattle will send some “Election workers” to help Harry on election day. He will win handily.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:15:41pm |
re: #171 Last Mohican
But that was a small poll, and there’s still plenty of time to bring billions of dollars of stimulus pork into Nevada before the next election.
Pork won’t be enough. Las Vegas is in a severe recession and pork won’t get it out. If things don’t turn around drastically, Reid is a cooked goose. My money says he’s gone after next year/
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Jack Burton Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:16:06pm |
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NY Nana Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:16:30pm |
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Racer X Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:17:20pm |
re: #172 Cato the Elder
Word of the day: “decarbonization”
The process of removing the bones from a Chevy Impala.
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:17:21pm |
re: #176 NY Nana
There’s good
boosnews tonight!
[Video]
Round my place, there’s good boos just about every night!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:18:20pm |
re: #175 ArchangelMichael
Great link. The Running Man is my favorite Schwarzenegger movie. And I think Reid will end end hitting the wall like Damon Killian in that movie.
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NY Nana Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:19:21pm |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:20:18pm |
re: #168 Dark_Falcon
Great news out of Nevada: Harry Reid is in deep trouble.
Wait a minute. This is being reported by Fox News. How reliable are they? Next thing they will be telling us is that Obama’s popularity numbers have gone down.
This is not fair and balanced.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:21:27pm |
re: #182 Walter L. Newton
Wait a minute. This is being reported by Fox News. How reliable are they? Next thing they will be telling us is that Obama’s popularity numbers have gone down.
This is not fair and balanced.
It’s a Mason-Dixon poll. All registered voters too. I’d call it reliable.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:21:30pm |
re: #180 Dark_Falcon
Great link. The Running Man is my favorite Schwarzenegger movie. And I think Reid will end end hitting the wall like Damon Killian in that movie.
Have you ever read the Richard Bachmann (Stephan King) original short story. The movie stunk compared to the actual story.
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:21:53pm |
re: #172 Cato the Elder
Word of the day: “decarbonization”
My nomination was going to be “Scientism.”
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:21:58pm |
re: #183 Dark_Falcon
It’s a Mason-Dixon poll. All registered voters too. I’d call it reliable.
It can’t be fair, it’s being reported by Fox.
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:22:09pm |
re: #180 Dark_Falcon
Well as so many others have said, I hope your right. But,OTOH, isn’t Ahnold gonna run into that wall in California? Have you heard the news that taxpayers who are supposed to get refunds on their State taxes are getting IOU’s and that the IOU’s are being taxed as income?!?
And no, I don’t think you can pay THAT tax with an IOU in return.
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freetoken Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:22:46pm |
re: #172 Cato the Elder
Word of the day: “decarbonization”
Answer: What happens to soda after you pop off the top and leave it sit out for 2 hours, Alex.
♫
I’ll take Ancient Japanese Pornography for $800, Alex…
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pat Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:22:48pm |
Ramadan. New World Dictionary. The Muslim Time To Pretend Others Cannot Fight While Islamists Slaughter Infidels , Distant Cousins And Apostates. Secondary definition, Party Time.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:23:13pm |
re: #184 Walter L. Newton
Have you ever read the Richard Bachmann (Stephan King) original short story. The movie stunk compared to the actual story.
No. I saw it for sale once, but I didn’t buy it.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:23:23pm |
re: #183 Dark_Falcon
It’s a Mason-Dixon poll. All registered voters too. I’d call it reliable.
You know I’m “funnin’” with you?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:23:52pm |
re: #186 Walter L. Newton
It can’t be fair, it’s being reported by Fox.
Funny, but do remember the /sarc tag on one of those posts.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:24:10pm |
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:24:22pm |
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:25:36pm |
re: #190 Dark_Falcon
No. I saw it for sale once, but I didn’t buy it.
Really, get a copy of the short story “The Running Man.” First off, it’s a nationwide game show, and the whole country is in on trying to stop the running man (the contestant).
So, there is a lot more interesting characters and locations. And the ending is totally different.
All the movie did was turn the whole story into one big “gang fight” in a walled off area of LA.
I didn’t like it.
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pat Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:27:07pm |
All Stephen King movies stink, with the exception of Carrie. And the more involved King is the worst they stink. It is a puzzle. Horror novels are often much better left to the imagination. Special effects has brought SciFi and Fantasy a long way.
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wiffersnapper Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:27:38pm |
On a completely unrelated note (tech support), clicking on a user’s avatar while in the comments thread sends you back to LGFHome. Is this an error, or just another change done to the site? I can access the mini-profile (karma, etc.) by singling out the comment.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:28:08pm |
re: #194 realwest
You mean you trust Fox News?!?
/
Yep, I trust Fox more than any other news network. And I haven’t even posted the best news of the day. Here it is:
Lieberman Suggests Putting Off Parts of Health Care Reform Until After Recession
And Lieberman isn’t the only good news in the article. The GOP actually came out of it looking sensible and conciliatory. Very Good News, indeed.
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:29:44pm |
re: #196 pat
All Stephen King movies stink, with the exception of Carrie. And the more involved King is the worst they stink. It is a puzzle. Horror novels are often much better left to the imagination. Special effects has brought SciFi and Fantasy a long way.
Not so. Most Stephen King horror movies stink (theatre release). Some of the made for TV version are a bit better since they have more time on character and plot development.
Almost all of King’s non-horror stories are really good on screen like Shawshank and Stand By Me.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:30:53pm |
re: #194 realwest
You mean you trust Fox News?!?
/
Yep, I trust Fox more than any other news network. And I haven’t even posted the best news of the day. Here it is:
Lieberman Suggests Putting Off Parts of Health Care Reform Until After Recession
And Lieberman isn’t the only good news in the article. The GOP actually came out of it looking sensible and conciliatory. Very Good News, indeed.
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:30:55pm |
re: #199 albusteve
Fux News…We’re fare!
You know, I was just about to suggest that we need a new pejorative neologism for Fox News. I think “Faux News” is overdone. Someone at digg.com used to say “Forks News.” What do y’all think of that?
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Walter L. Newton Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:31:18pm |
re: #202 Last Mohican
You know, I was just about to suggest that we need a new pejorative neologism for Fox News. I think “Faux News” is overdone. Someone at digg.com used to say “Forks News.” What do y’all think of that?
Fuck News.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:31:26pm |
Paragraph of the day (from a paper on the low-carbon new world order):
Of course, all of this is still a utopia. The emissions trade in its current state is hardly able to perform such a hinge function, and considerable audacity is required for institutional innovations in the realm of “global government”. The economist XYZ and the ABC agency suggest the creation of a central climate bank to register and oversee the transfer of emissions rights as a kind of global budget manager. This bank would also have the task of ensuring that the emissions trade does not break the overall global budget, for example by a total selloff of unneeded emissions rights by individual developing nations at the the start of the commitment period. This complex task can only be met if the central climate bank is provided with the necessary power, which in turn implies that it is accountable as a para-governmental institution of global government and that it enjoys the democratic legitimacy that transnational agencies (such as the World Bank) have until now entirely lacked.
Well, that should be easy…
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:31:46pm |
re: #201 Dark_Falcon
Sorry about the double post. My computer would load the new posts, so I refreshed the page.
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:32:52pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:33:13pm |
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:33:24pm |
re: #206 Dark_Falcon
Sorry about the double post. My computer would load the new posts, so I refreshed the page.
Oh yeah. Sure. Well it gave me a chance to upding you twice - and I had to refresh to get new comments too.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:35:24pm |
Technical question: Can Reba’s eyes actually be that blue or is everything a lie?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:35:31pm |
re: #209 realwest
Oh yeah. Sure. Well it gave me a chance to upding you twice - and I had to refresh to get new comments too.
Thank you.
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:36:02pm |
re: #201 Dark_Falcon
Yep, I trust Fox more than any other news network. And I haven’t even posted the best news of the day. Here it is:
Lieberman Suggests Putting Off Parts of Health Care Reform Until After Recession
And Lieberman isn’t the only good news in the article. The GOP actually came out of it looking sensible and conciliatory. Very Good News, indeed.
That was interesting. It seems like we may be witnessing the birth of a new GOP talking point: “let’s not try to deal with the whole health care thing while we’re still in a recession.” I’m not quite sure I understand the logic, though. Is the idea that health care “reform” could hurt the economy, so we’d better put it off until later? Or is it just the idea that “if it ain’t the most broke, let’s not fix it first?”
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Bagua Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:36:30pm |
re: #89 freetoken
I see that a climate change thread happened while I was at the gym… never fails. And I had a window full tabs of climate-change news … Anyway, onward and upward.
Has anyone else noticed an explosive upward trend in food prices? At my local Safeway corp supermarket I’ve noticed the “regular” prices on many items I buy have gone up noticeably, while the “sale” prices have stayed about the same. The only good deals are produce at the peak of the season (which this week appears to be peaches.)
Yes, it was cleverly timed, I suppose we can’t count on that happening every time.
On the food thing, they are related in some ways.
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Last Mohican Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:36:59pm |
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Coracle Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:39:15pm |
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:40:52pm |
re: #212 Last Mohican
Hi Last Mohican - I think the idea is that many parts of the healthcare/health insurance plan are too expensive to enact with the economy laying there with a sucking chest wound.
And I’m not entirely sure I agree with that - there are SO MANY unemployed in this country now, that sooner or later (if they had private health insurance then they get to go to COBRA, which although cheaper than Medicare, is still damned expensive).
Not to mention the underemployed and contract workers.
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:41:00pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:41:18pm |
re: #216 NY Nana
Uh, do you talk to yourself often? ;)
Yes, I talk to myself all the time.
/no sarc, I really do
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:42:13pm |
re: #222 Dark_Falcon
Yes, I talk to myself all the time.
/no sarc, I really do
Hopefully not out loud!
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Racer X Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:43:34pm |
re: #198 Dark_Falcon
Yep, I trust Fox more than any other news network. And I haven’t even posted the best news of the day. Here it is:
Lieberman Suggests Putting Off Parts of Health Care Reform Until After Recession
And Lieberman isn’t the only good news in the article. The GOP actually came out of it looking sensible and conciliatory. Very Good News, indeed.
Doesn’t matter. Fox News sux. They are doo-doo heads. I don’t believe anything they say anymore.
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solomonpanting Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:43:45pm |
re: #225 realwest
re: #222 Dark_Falcon
Yes, I talk to myself all the time.
/no sarc, I really do
Hopefully not out loud!
Of course out loud. How else is he going to hear what he has to say?
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:45:02pm |
re: #222 Dark_Falcon
Yes, I talk to myself all the time.
/no sarc, I really do
“sometimes I don’t speak to bright
but yet I know what I am talkin about”
War
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:45:18pm |
re: #229 solomonpanting
Of course out loud. How else is he going to hear what he has to say?
In that case I think I’ve seen him walking the streets of NYC!
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:45:48pm |
re: #226 MikeySDCA
My mother taught me that there is nothing wrong with talking to yourself, unless you answer.
There is a statue of the founder of my school’s order on campus. I often say hello to him as I pass. Tell the kids that unless he starts talking back to me, I’m not technically crazy.
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:46:41pm |
re: #227 Racer X
Doesn’t matter. Fox News sux. They are doo-doo heads. I don’t believe anything they say anymore.
Hi Racer X - do you watch ANY TV news and if so, which one(s) do you trust?
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solomonpanting Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:46:59pm |
re: #231 realwest
In that case I think I’ve seen him walking the streets of NYC!
He must really get around since I’ve seen him on the west coast.
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Racer X Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:47:15pm |
re: #201 Dark_Falcon
Lieberman is making a lot of sense.
“I’m afraid we’ve got to think about putting a lot of that off until the economy’s out of recession,” said Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman. “There’s no reason we have to do it all now, but we do have to get started. And I think the place to start is cost health delivery reform and insurance market reforms.”
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sngnsgt Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:47:23pm |
re: #226 MikeySDCA
My mother taught me that there is nothing wrong with talking to yourself, unless you answer.
Someone has to answer all those voices I hear, if I don’t, they never shut up…
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:47:25pm |
re: #231 realwest
In that case I think I’ve seen him walking the streets of NYC!
I don’t live in NYC, and I’m careful not to talk to my self when I’m walking on the street.
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NY Nana Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:47:53pm |
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:47:57pm |
re: #234 solomonpanting
LOL! Hey there solomonpanting, how are y’all doing tonight?
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Racer X Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:49:10pm |
re: #233 realwest
Hi Racer X - do you watch ANY TV news and if so, which one(s) do you trust?
Hi RW! - I was kidding. I rarely watch TV news anymore. Occasionally I will catch Cavuto on Fox. Thats about it.
As far as who do I trust? No one.
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Karmapolice Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:50:00pm |
re: #240 MikeySDCA
I pat my car on the head (the dashboard). His name is Gandy, short for Gandalf, because he is silver. My family has always given cars names.
My last car was the “Green Jewhad,” named so after my stepdad kicked my dog out of the house because it was “unclean”
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Cato the Elder Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:50:05pm |
Here’s something else that should be no problem at all.
The global central climate bank can collect these payments in a central fund and disburse them according to an agreed-upon key; it would need the ability to effectively sanction those countries that do not meet their payment obligations.
Heh.
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:50:20pm |
re: #237 Dark_Falcon
I don’t live in NYC, and I’m careful not to talk to my self when I’m walking on the street.
Well I’m glad you’re careful not to talk to your self when your walking on the street, too bad you don’t live in NYC though - I’ve heard some folks talking to themselves and making sense, too!
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:51:05pm |
re: #242 bagua
The modern media is in a sad state.
I like these guys…as trustworthy as any other
[Link: www.nationalenquirer.com…]
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bagua Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:51:30pm |
re: #244 Cato the Elder
Here’s something else that should be no problem at all.
Heh.
Nah, nothing there.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:52:05pm |
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HelloDare Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:52:13pm |
re: #26 Charles
What complete crap!
There are zero reader comments to that article. None. Strange.
I’d write something but I’m too tired to be coherent.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:52:24pm |
re: #244 Cato the Elder
Here’s something else that should be no problem at all.
Heh.
Very frightening. Post the whole thing once you’ve got it ready, please Cato?
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Cato the Elder Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:53:27pm |
re: #250 Dark_Falcon
Very frightening. Post the whole thing once you’ve got it ready, please Cato?
It will have to wait a bit until the client does what he wants with it. But as it is a public document in Germany, it shouldn’t be a problem.
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bagua Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:54:04pm |
re: #248 Cato the Elder
Nope, I mean the modern media as a single entity, thus the media is in a sad state is similar to “the army is in a bad state.”
or where you kidding?
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:55:07pm |
re: #241 Racer X
Hi RW! - I was kidding. I rarely watch TV news anymore. Occasionally I will catch Cavuto on Fox. Thats about it.
As far as who do I trust? No one.
and
re: #242 bagua Well it’s difficult to trust any of ‘em, I’ll grant you that - especially when they are covering something live that either JUST happened or is antipated to happen.
And frankly bagua, the MSM - and especially the print media, have been in sorry shape for a long time (and that’s putting it mildly). The TV media at least can sometimes call on the pressures of time to explain away how their talking heads just said the opposite of what we just saw with our own eyes!
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Cato the Elder Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:55:24pm |
re: #252 bagua
Nope, I mean the modern media as a single entity, thus the media is in a sad state is similar to “the army is in a bad state.”
or where you kidding?
No, I was not kidding. “Media” is the plural of “medium” (a means, a vehicle) and cannot be singular. And the myth of a monolithic medial entity is just that.
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:55:28pm |
“Elizabeth was hit with an overwhelming one-two punch,
[Link: www.nationalenquirer.com…]
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solomonpanting Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:56:01pm |
re: #239 realwest
I’m well, thank you. This week will be quite full. I’m not only building new cabinets for a total kitchen remodel, but the owner wanted me to be the general, as well. Tomorrow is inspection day for framing and rough plumbing and electrical. The clients are going to Barcelona for a few weeks toward the middle of October and we need to be finished before they leave. It’s gonna be close.
Hope tonight finds you and your mother well.
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:57:27pm |
re: #256 solomonpanting
I’m well, thank you. This week will be quite full. I’m not only building new cabinets for a total kitchen remodel, but the owner wanted me to be the general, as well. Tomorrow is inspection day for framing and rough plumbing and electrical. The clients are going to Barcelona for a few weeks toward the middle of October and we need to be finished before they leave. It’s gonna be close.
Hope tonight finds you and your mother well.
good for you…get some
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bagua Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:58:55pm |
re: #254 Cato the Elder
No, I was not kidding. “Media” is the plural of “medium” (a means, a vehicle) and cannot be singular. And the myth of a monolithic medial entity is just that.
Woops, I meant “were”, not “where”, how embarrassing to make a typo while debating grammar.
As to the myth of the medial entity, do you then accept the truism of the distal entity?
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Jimmah Sun, Aug 23, 2009 9:59:23pm |
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HelloDare Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:00:07pm |
re: #255 albusteve
“Elizabeth was hit with an overwhelming one-two punch,
[Link: www.nationalenquirer.com…]
Love that photo of Edwards.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:02:58pm |
re: #259 bagua
Woops, I meant “were”, not “where”, how embarrassing to make a typo while debating grammar.
As to the myth of the medial entity, do you then accept the truism of the distal entity?
No, only of the distaff entity.
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MJ Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:04:25pm |
Justice Dept. Report Advises Pursuing C.I.A. Abuse Cases
WASHINGTON — The Justice Department’s ethics office has recommended reversing the Bush administration and reopening nearly a dozen prisoner-abuse cases, potentially exposing Central Intelligence Agency employees and contractors to prosecution for brutal treatment of terrorism suspects, according to a person officially briefed on the matter…
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
Well, you knew this was coming.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:04:55pm |
re: #255 albusteve
“Elizabeth was hit with an overwhelming one-two punch,
[Link: www.nationalenquirer.com…]
Elizabeth Edwards ought to be allowed to put her husband’s ball in a blender for what he’s done it her.
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:05:21pm |
re: #256 solomonpanting
Yeah, mom and I are doing ok, thanks for asking! If y’all pass the damned plumbing and electrical tomorrow I think you’re gonna have a shot at making mid-October - unless theirs special flooring and back-spash problems, no?!
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NY Nana Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:06:28pm |
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NY Nana Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:08:34pm |
re: #266 Dark_Falcon
But she chose to stay with him…I will never understand women who do this. Never.
And she is a lawyer who would probably advise a client to ditch the bastard if it were the same situation.
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:08:46pm |
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:08:51pm |
re: #262 Racer X
Amazing indeed - inculding the explanation of how they are formed and how dangerous they are to airplanes!
Thanks a lot for that - I’d not only never seen ‘em before but I’ve never even heard of ‘em before!
Thanks again!
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bagua Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:08:54pm |
re: #269 MikeySDCA
Cotton Mather comes to Washington.
A fire, a fire is burning! I hear the
boot of Lucifer, I see his filthy face! And it is my face, and
yours, Danforth! For them that quail to bring men out of
ignorance, as I have quailed, and as you quail now when you
know in all your black hearts that this be fraud-God damns our
kind especially, and we will burn, we will burn together.
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solomonpanting Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:11:19pm |
re: #267 realwest
unless theirs special flooring and back-spash problems, no?!
Are you spying? The flooring is the last major decision to be made, and while the client has selected backsplash material, she has yet to decide on a pattern behind the range. Otherwise, the project has gone rather smoothly.
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MJ Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:11:46pm |
re: #265 MJ
Bush made a major mistake by not issuing a blanket pardon. He did not protect the CIA nor anyone else connected to the operational end of the WoT. He also screwed Libby but that’s another issue.
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bagua Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:12:22pm |
re: #276 realwest
Let’s see, where did I read that the malignant media would trot out some Bush Crimes hysteria to run cover for the current Obamacare stitchup?
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:12:25pm |
I’m crushed…CRUSHED!
In a rage over her belief that she was being treated as a “second-class citizen,”
[Link: www.nationalenquirer.com…]
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bagua Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:12:59pm |
re: #278 MJ
Bush made a major mistake by not issuing a blanket pardon. He did not protect the CIA nor anyone else connected to the operational end of the WoT. He also screwed Libby but that’s another issue.
He also screwed up by not de-nuking Iran and Syria.
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:13:47pm |
re: #277 solomonpanting
Are you spying? The flooring is the last major decision to be made, and while the client has selected backsplash material, she has yet to decide on a pattern behind the range. Otherwise, the project has gone rather smoothly.
LOL! NO, just a LOT of experience in construction and especially in renovating kitchens.
Have they selected the appliances yet, or are y’all still waiting to get the counter-tops cut?
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iceweasel Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:14:28pm |
I see lamb is on the menu…and Jesse Rae!
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Sharmuta Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:15:36pm |
Islamic officials release woman held for caning
Islamic officials Monday abruptly released a Muslim model scheduled to be caned this week for drinking beer after briefly detaining her, in an unexpected twist for Malaysia’s first woman to face the corporal punishment.
Two female and one male officials came to the house of Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno in northern Malaysia on Monday and took her away in a van on what was supposed to be a four-hour road journey to a prison near Kuala Lumpur, the country’s main city.
But they returned after about 30 minutes and said they had received “instructions from the higher powers” to release her, said Kartika’s father, Shukarno Abdul Muttalib. The officials said that “for now, the sentence cannot be carried out,” Shukarno said.
Officials had said earlier that Kartika, a 32-year-old mother of two, would be caned sometime during the week but no specific date was set. Amnesty International had condemned the decision, and many critics had said the caning would harm Malaysia’s reputation as a moderate Muslim country.
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:15:36pm |
re: #279 bagua
Let’s see, where did I read that the malignant media would trot out some Bush Crimes hysteria to run cover for the current Obamacare stitchup?
It was in that joint memorandum made by Rahm Emmanuel and David Axelrod - doncha remember?
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MJ Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:17:57pm |
re: #281 bagua
He also screwed up by not de-nuking Iran and Syria.
Well, Israel took care of Syria. Evantually, we’ll learn the details of that one.
As for Iran, it was all talk but then, Bush’s second term wasn’t anything to write home about. Looking forward to Cheney’s book.
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solomonpanting Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:19:37pm |
re: #283 realwest
LOL! NO, just a LOT of experience in construction and especially in renovating kitchens.
Have they selected the appliances yet, or are y’all still waiting to get the counter-tops cut?
I told them I wouldn’t build the cabinets until they selected their appliances, which were delivered last week. I don’t trust the literature/specs to always be correct. They’ve selected granite but the templates for the tops won’t be measured or cut until the base cabinets are in.
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Bagua Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:21:38pm |
re: #285 MikeySDCA
Great idea, but not feasible.
I don’t know, Qwadaffy rolled over with a little pressure.
MJ,
As far as Israel taking care of Syria, that hardly ended the problem.
MikeySDCA,
That was meant as a smile.
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BatGuano Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:21:55pm |
re: #286 iceweasel
Upding for barbarians, trains, dogs and half naked women.
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iceweasel Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:24:19pm |
re: #295 BatGuano
Upding for barbarians, trains, dogs and half naked women.
Hi Bat. ;) Upding for your excellent taste. :)
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Jimmah Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:25:36pm |
re: #295 BatGuano
Upding for barbarians, trains, dogs and half naked women.
Jesse Rae - the Godfaither o’ funk himsel.
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:25:48pm |
Hey Night Lizards!
Well, it seems from the propaganda reports, Charles is a Man for All Seasons. I wonder if Thomas More encountered got similar hate-mail?
How are you-all and what are we discussing?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:28:50pm |
re: #296 iceweasel
Hi Bat. ;) Upding for your excellent taste. :)
Hello, iceweasel. How are things going for you?
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:29:29pm |
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:29:42pm |
re: #301 Last Mohican
I know that candles are bad for my Cat Overlord’s health. He singes his wiskers every time I light one. Out of respect, I rarely light one.
I’ve hear that more than one cat has set himself on fire that way, they rampaged thru the house, setting the house on fire.
I don’t want to ponder the metaphysical implications of such a thing. I actually switched to the electric candles —which seems wrong too.
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:29:48pm |
Huh, lost my internet service for a few minutes there!
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FemNaziBitch Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:30:10pm |
re: #306 realwest
Huh, lost my internet service for a few minutes there!
How scary! Glad it came back!
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Cato the Elder Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:30:54pm |
re: #301 Last Mohican
The only things I own that are really safe are my guns. I keep them in a safe.
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:31:33pm |
re: #293 solomonpanting
I told them I wouldn’t build the cabinets until they selected their appliances, which were delivered last week. I don’t trust the literature/specs to always be correct. They’ve selected granite but the templates for the tops won’t be measured or cut until the base cabinets are in.
And of course the base cabinets can’t go in until the electrical/plumbing inspection tomorrow, right?
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Jimmah Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:32:13pm |
re: #286 iceweasel
I see lamb is on the menu…and Jesse Rae!
Excellent:) Apart from being incredibly awesome in its own right, that video was also the inspiration for this bollywood classic - chaiyya chaiyya.
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iceweasel Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:32:19pm |
re: #265 MJ
Justice Dept. Report Advises Pursuing C.I.A. Abuse Cases
[Link: www.nytimes.com…]
Well, you knew this was coming.
Wait til tomorrow when the Justice Department discloses the final report. It was forced to disclose by an ACLU suit.
The civil libertarians on the left won’t be happy about these prosecutions either, because they’d be going after lowlevel functionaries— the interrogators themselves. Not for torturing, but for exceeding the guidelines for torture. This will in effect legitimise the Yoo memos retroactively.
Plus it raises the fear for the intelligence gatherers— the fear that they’re retroactively open to prosecution by a different administration.
I expect a massive shitstorm to hit on both the right and the left over this issue.
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:32:57pm |
re: #308 ggt
How scary! Glad it came back!
Well I wouldn’t say SCARY but a pain in the butt for sure!
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:33:45pm |
re: #313 iceweasel
“I expect a massive shitstorm to hit on both the right and the left over this issue.” Indeed
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:34:12pm |
re: #312 Jimmah
Excellent:) Apart from being incredibly awesome in its own right, that video was also the inspiration for this bollywood classic - chaiyya chaiyya.
[Video]
incredibly awsome?…whoa
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Bagua Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:34:32pm |
re: #313 iceweasel
I expect a massive shitstorm to hit on both the right and the left over this issue.
Yep.
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Jimmah Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:34:34pm |
re: #309 BatGuano
I thought that was Rick James. :)
Nah thats the godfather. Jesse is the godfaither ;-)
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iceweasel Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:35:14pm |
re: #302 Dark_Falcon
Hello, iceweasel. How are things going for you?
Hey DF! Just peachy. And you? {DF}
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:36:58pm |
re: #320 iceweasel
Hey DF! Just peachy. And you? {DF}
I’m decent. Had the day off today. Kind of under the weather at the moment but it’ll have to pass. No way am I missing work this week. I need the sales to make my quotas.
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SteveC Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:37:06pm |
A 42 year old bottle of Pepsi, still sealed
How is everyone?
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solomonpanting Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:37:39pm |
re: #311 realwest
And of course the base cabinets can’t go in until the electrical/plumbing inspection tomorrow, right?
All the ceilings and all walls, save one, were taken down to the studs. There were numerous electrical areas that need to be cleaned up, added and a subpanel moved to an exterior wall since the wall that contained it was demo’ed, along with a few others. We took a kitchen that had been cut up and opened it up to its fullest extent possible. After the walls are closed up we can install cabinets.
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iceweasel Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:38:21pm |
re: #312 Jimmah
Excellent:) Apart from being incredibly awesome in its own right, that video was also the inspiration for this bollywood classic - chaiyya chaiyya.
[Video]
Hello Jimmah-ski. How goes it, Comrade?
I got more records than the KGB.
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MJ Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:38:35pm |
re: #313 iceweasel
Wait til tomorrow when the Justice Department discloses the final report. It was forced to disclose by an ACLU suit.
The civil libertarians on the left won’t be happy about these prosecutions either, because they’d be going after lowlevel functionaries— the interrogators themselves. Not for torturing, but for exceeding the guidelines for torture. This will in effect legitimise the Yoo memos retroactively.
Plus it raises the fear for the intelligence gatherers— the fear that they’re retroactively open to prosecution by a different administration.
I expect a massive shitstorm to hit on both the right and the left over this issue.
The Left is still trying to get Yoo fired:
Protesters want UC Berkeley law professor fired
[Link: www.google.com…]
The New York Times ran several opinion pieces last week on whether Yoo should be fired. Of course, the Times had a person from the National Lawyers Guild. Wanna guess what side they took?
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BatGuano Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:39:17pm |
re: #313 iceweasel
Ice,
“The recommendation by the Office of Professional Responsibility, presented to Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. in recent weeks, comes as the Justice Department is about to disclose on Monday voluminous details on prisoner abuse that were gathered in 2004 by the C.I.A.’s inspector general but have never been released.”
I hope there was no prisoner abuse (Abu Graib) but how politicized do you think this is?
| 328 |
MrPaulRevere Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:40:09pm |
re: #321 Racer X
THAT was a classic, talk about an angry white man.
| 329 |
SteveC Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:40:32pm |
re: #326 MJ
The Left is still trying to get Yoo fired:
Protesters want UC Berkeley law professor fired
[Link: www.google.com…]
The New York Times ran several opinion pieces last week on whether Yoo should be fired. Of course, the Times had a person from the National Lawyers Guild. Wanna guess what side they took?
I’m thinking they didn’t play Rock, Scissors, Paper to make up their minds…
| 330 |
iceweasel Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:40:37pm |
re: #322 Dark_Falcon
I’m decent. Had the day off today. Kind of under the weather at the moment but it’ll have to pass. No way am I missing work this week. I need the sales to make my quotas.
Ugh. Good luck on the quotas, and feeling better!
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:41:10pm |
re: #324 solomonpanting
All the ceilings and all walls, save one, were taken down to the studs. There were numerous electrical areas that need to be cleaned up, added and a subpanel moved to an exterior wall since the wall that contained it was demo’ed, along with a few others. We took a kitchen that had been cut up and opened it up to its fullest extent possible. After the walls are closed up we can install cabinets.
I love building kitchens…I’m gettin jealous here
| 332 |
NY Nana Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:41:15pm |
re: #322 Dark_Falcon
Feel better!
G’nite, Lizards. Sweet dreams. I am wasted, and am actually going to sleep.
| 333 |
SteveC Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:42:00pm |
re: #327 BatGuano
I hope there was no prisoner abuse (Abu Graib) but how politicized do you think this is?
Can we turn the Politicizer past 11? Does it have a Turboboost mode?
| 334 |
Jimmah Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:42:03pm |
re: #303 albusteve
godfaither of funk himsel?…
He wrote this among other monster funk hits:
Jesse Rae - not just your average claymore wielding nutcase.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:42:24pm |
re: #332 NY Nana
Feel better!
G’nite, Lizards. Sweet dreams. I am wasted, and am actually going to sleep.
Goodnight, Nana.
| 337 |
Bagua Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:43:08pm |
re: #333 SteveC
Can we turn the Politicizer past 11? Does it have a Turboboost mode?
I reckon we ain’t seen nothin yet.
| 338 |
Silvergirl Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:43:23pm |
I was just looking at Afrocity’s blog which I bookmarked when she first started it. I never seem to remember to read it much, but tonight I did, and I saw that she has YouTubes of herself speaking—Parts 1 and 2. Most of what she said I remembered from her time here when she was a regular, but there were a few new things. Mainly it was fun to see and hear a person only known through her writing before.
| 339 |
realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:44:18pm |
re: #313 iceweasel
“The civil libertarians on the left won’t be happy about these prosecutions either, because they’d be going after lowlevel functionaries— the interrogators themselves. Not for torturing, but for exceeding the guidelines for torture. This will in effect legitimise the Yoo memos retroactively.”
Well first I have to say that I’m not as familiar with this matter as I intend to be, but couldn’t going after lowlevel functionaries not also lead to going after the higher-ups? I mean, the low level functionaries will have no shield left to protect them by way of pardons or somesuch and could roll on higher level folks?
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:44:45pm |
re: #334 Jimmah
He wrote this among other monster funk hits:
[Video]Jesse Rae - not just your average claymore wielding nutcase.
yes, not even a close wannabe…monster funk?
| 342 |
BatGuano Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:46:42pm |
re: #333 SteveC
Most politicizers go to 10 but theirs go to 11. When you get to 10 and need a boost over the edge you go to 11.
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albusteve Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:48:19pm |
re: #339 realwest
“The civil libertarians on the left won’t be happy about these prosecutions either, because they’d be going after lowlevel functionaries— the interrogators themselves. Not for torturing, but for exceeding the guidelines for torture. This will in effect legitimise the Yoo memos retroactively.”
Well first I have to say that I’m not as familiar with this matter as I intend to be, but couldn’t going after lowlevel functionaries not also lead to going after the higher-ups? I mean, the low level functionaries will have no shield left to protect them by way of pardons or somesuch and could roll on higher level folks?
it’s a lot of defensive, self righteous posturing…no good will come of it, but liberals learn everything the hard way, if they do at all…this will blow up in BOs face like everything else he’s tried
| 344 |
Jimmah Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:48:31pm |
re: #325 iceweasel
Hello Jimmah-ski. How goes it, Comrade?
I got more records than the KGB.
Hey Iceweasleski! Just fine :) Don’t forget - Нас не догонят
PS I see the starlings are building their nests a little earlier on St Petersburg Avenue this year ;-)
| 345 |
Cato the Elder Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:48:53pm |
Now here’s a pity:
[…] the widespread recognition among many political decision makers that the increasing number of global problems in an interdependent world can only be solved by global governance has not yet been translated into the desirable acceleration of the routines of global regulations.
| 346 |
realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:49:18pm |
re: #324 solomonpanting
Ah. Now I see why mid-October could be a difficult closing date! Good luck my friend - especially tomorrow!
| 347 |
SteveC Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:49:25pm |
re: #342 BatGuano
Most politicizers go to 10 but theirs go to 11. When you get to 10 and need a boost over the edge you go to 11.
If you can time it so that you hit 11 while rolling downhill, you can actually hit 13 or 14. You’ll be hanging on for dear life and screaming like your hair is on fire.
I bet that is what they are hoping for!
| 348 |
BatGuano Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:49:36pm |
re: #338 Silvergirl
Can I find her at you tube by putting in Afro City?
| 349 |
solomonpanting Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:50:02pm |
re: #331 albusteve
I love building kitchens…I’m gettin jealous here
Hang in there. I’ll see about posting pics when all is said and done.
| 350 |
iceweasel Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:51:25pm |
re: #327 BatGuano
Ice,
“The recommendation by the Office of Professional Responsibility, presented to Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. in recent weeks, comes as the Justice Department is about to disclose on Monday voluminous details on prisoner abuse that were gathered in 2004 by the C.I.A.’s inspector general but have never been released.”
I hope there was no prisoner abuse (Abu Graib) but how politicized do you think this is?
The timing of the disclosure isn’t, because it’s the result of a lawsuit by the ACLU that had been in the works for a while. Check out this article-- it’s about the full disclosures coming tomorrow. Warning: it is bad news. Mock executions, threats with power drills, and probably worse when we get the full files tomorrow.
Holder’s hand is being forced because of it. But the prosecutions are totally political, just not in the way the right thinks. It’s not about distracting people from health care or anything else. Actually, it’s all about the fact that Obama himself supports all this and has in every instance chosen to continue or extend Bush policies regarding rendition, torture, and the extension of executive power.
So these prosecutions would 1) mean that no one else in the Bush admin would ever be prosecuted, and 2) would insulate Obama himself and his own admin from prosecution in the future. Because the legal precedents that will be set are that the people who exceeded the guidelines are guilty— not that the guidelines themselves are problematic.
It really is the worst of all worlds.
Here’s something on Obama’s own first rendition.
And some critical stuff from the left about the prosecutions
| 351 |
realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:51:31pm |
re: #348 BatGuano
Y’all can find her here: [Link: afrocityblog.wordpress.com…]
| 352 |
sngnsgt Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:52:05pm |
re: #323 SteveC
That’s as old as I am… probably tastes better too…
| 353 |
Silvergirl Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:53:11pm |
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solomonpanting Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:54:17pm |
re: #346 realwest
Ah. Now I see why mid-October could be a difficult closing date! Good luck my friend - especially tomorrow!
Thanks much and now it’s bedtime. Take care.
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MJ Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:54:33pm |
re: #343 albusteve
it’s a lot of defensive, self righteous posturing…no good will come of it, but liberals learn everything the hard way, if they do at all…this will blow up in BOs face like everything else he’s tried
By releasing the details of any alleged torture by the US, the individuals that will suffer the most are our servicemen and women.
| 357 |
iceweasel Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:58:08pm |
re: #339 realwest
“The civil libertarians on the left won’t be happy about these prosecutions either, because they’d be going after lowlevel functionaries— the interrogators themselves. Not for torturing, but for exceeding the guidelines for torture. This will in effect legitimise the Yoo memos retroactively.”
Well first I have to say that I’m not as familiar with this matter as I intend to be, but couldn’t going after lowlevel functionaries not also lead to going after the higher-ups? I mean, the low level functionaries will have no shield left to protect them by way of pardons or somesuch and could roll on higher level folks?
Hey real— see my 350. No, the purpose of prosecuting the low level people will mean that the memos themsleves, the guidelines, will in effect be legitimised and the people who wrote them will be immunised retroactively.
By prosecuting people for exceeding the guidelines, you’re in effect saying that the guidelines themselves are ok. That’s the whole point.
To be honest, this is exactly what I would expect Obama to do. He’s far worse than Bush/cheney in the area of civil liberties— they at least were open about what they were doing and what their theories of executive power were. Obama says one thing and does another.
Although the righty-sphere will shriek tomorrow that this is about punishing Bush, it really is about protecting Obama and furthering his own ambitions in that realm. It will also have the effect of protecting Bush and others.
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 10:59:05pm |
re: #350 iceweasel
Hey iceweasel - could be a whole lot of shit is gonna hit the fan ok; from your THIS ARTICLE link:
“Any infractions of the rules were met with anger at CIA because we realized this was a program that had to stay meticulously within the guidelines,” the official said. He noted that after the IG’s report was completed in 2004, the document was reviewed by administration and congressional officials, who allowed the program to continue despite its flaws.
[emphasis added realwest]
| 359 |
Jimmah Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:01:48pm |
re: #340 albusteve
yes, not even a close wannabe…monster funk?
Sorry albusteve - I forgot you stopped listening to new music in 1975.
| 361 |
sngnsgt Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:03:34pm |
President 0bama is getting closer to 50% approval rating.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:03:39pm |
re: #357 iceweasel
Hey real— see my 350. No, the purpose of prosecuting the low level people will mean that the memos themsleves, the guidelines, will in effect be legitimised and the people who wrote them will be immunised retroactively.
By prosecuting people for exceeding the guidelines, you’re in effect saying that the guidelines themselves are ok. That’s the whole point.
To be honest, this is exactly what I would expect Obama to do. He’s far worse than Bush/cheney in the area of civil liberties— they at least were open about what they were doing and what their theories of executive power were. Obama says one thing and does another.
Although the righty-sphere will shriek tomorrow that this is about punishing Bush, it really is about protecting Obama and furthering his own ambitions in that realm. It will also have the effect of protecting Bush and others.
Groooaaan.
(That means, “I think you’ve about nailed it.”)
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:04:41pm |
re: #357 iceweasel
Hey real— see my 350. No, the purpose of prosecuting the low level people will mean that the memos themsleves, the guidelines, will in effect be legitimised and the people who wrote them will be immunised retroactively.
By prosecuting people for exceeding the guidelines, you’re in effect saying that the guidelines themselves are ok. That’s the whole point.
To be honest, this is exactly what I would expect Obama to do. He’s far worse than Bush/cheney in the area of civil liberties— they at least were open about what they were doing and what their theories of executive power were. Obama says one thing and does another.
Although the righty-sphere will shriek tomorrow that this is about punishing Bush, it really is about protecting Obama and furthering his own ambitions in that realm. It will also have the effect of protecting Bush and others.
You are correct about the trial’s impacts. As for myself, I don’t think there should be any trials at all. The terrorists in question are scum, and I cannot for the life of me really believe they have any rights at all.
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realwest Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:04:43pm |
Well I gotta get some sleep y’all - hope you all have a good evening/early morning and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
Good night, all.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:05:12pm |
Bedtime. Freshman orientation tomorrow.
Spikoiny nochy.
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SteveC Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:05:25pm |
Ladies and gentlemen, our long national nightmare is over!
“Reality TV star” accused of killing wife kills self
“…the creme de la creme of the Law Enforcement Community in a show with everything but Dwayne “Dog” Chapman!”
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:06:51pm |
re: #366 SteveC
Ladies and gentlemen, our long national nightmare is over!
“Reality TV star” accused of killing wife kills self
“…the creme de la creme of the Law Enforcement Community in a show with everything but Dwayne “Dog” Chapman!”
Very good, Murray, very good. ;)
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:07:03pm |
Full on moonbat alert: This one is actually kinda scary, look at the eyes, she rarely blinks. Embedding is disabled, click to watch it on you tube.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:08:22pm |
re: #356 MJ
By releasing the details of any alleged torture by the US, the individuals that will suffer the most are our servicemen and women.
Maybe we should have thought of that before we allegedly tortured.
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iceweasel Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:08:49pm |
re: #344 Jimmah
Hey Iceweasleski! Just fine :) Don’t forget - Нас не догоня&# x0442;
PS I see the starlings are building their nests a little earlier on St Petersburg Avenue this year ;-)
How could I ever forget? ;)
PS: That Georgia’s always on my mi-mi-mi-mind.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:10:34pm |
re: #370 iceweasel
How could I ever forget? ;)
PS: That Georgia’s always on my mi-mi-mi-mind.
[Video]
The Ukraine grrrls really knock me out.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:13:12pm |
re: #368 MrPaulRevere
Full on moonbat alert: This one is actually kinda scary, look at the eyes, she rarely blinks. Embedding is disabled, click to watch it on you tube.
I only made about a minute and twenty seconds in. That really is a nasty moonbat. I’d hate to get into an argument with her. There’d be no way to keep it civil, It’d just start ugly and stay ugly.
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BatGuano Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:14:00pm |
“re: #350 iceweasel
“we kidnap people who we think are terrorists and take them to foreign countries where they are probably going to be tortured. ” I hope we do not kidnap: arrest.,capture is OK.
The reference to Tina Fey is gratuitous and not relevant; she’s an “entertainer”.
I hope we have not done anything unbecoming of an American.
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MrPaulRevere Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:14:31pm |
re: #373 Dark_Falcon
Shes a real piece of work, talk about the politics of hate. That’s a face and a dispostion that can give you nightmares.
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Silvergirl Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:15:52pm |
re: #375 MrPaulRevere
Shes a real piece of work, talk about the politics of hate. That’s a face and a dispostion that can give you nightmares.
Can you imagine working in retail at the height of the holidays and have her come up to you with a complaint?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:16:03pm |
re: #375 MrPaulRevere
Shes a real piece of work, talk about the politics of hate. That’s a face and a dispostion that can give you nightmares.
Agreed. She’s the kind of person who brings out the worst in people.
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Jimmah Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:16:22pm |
re: #370 iceweasel
How could I ever forget? ;)
PS: That Georgia’s always on my mi-mi-mi-mind.
приветствия лед ласка!
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iceweasel Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:17:13pm |
re: #358 realwest
Hey iceweasel - could be a whole lot of shit is gonna hit the fan ok; from your THIS ARTICLE link:
[emphasis added realwest]
Hey real— BTW, meant to say I hope you’re feeling well.
You’re right— the docs show that the admin let the program continue. But I’d still maintain that we’re not going to see any prosecutions of anyone higher up, at all. A few token people are going to take the fall. A few interrogators will be in trouble. But it will all be about ‘exceeding the guidelines’ — not the guidelines themselves. Just like Abu G.
And never forget the real point here is to ensure that Obama and his own people will be protected in the future— this will also ensure that Bush et al are protected as a byproduct.
There will be a lot of screaming from the right about this— “politically motivated! Obama pandering to the nutroots! Obama hates Bush!” — but that isn’t the real story. For the real story look to the prog blogs and the civil libertarians especially, who are totally going to rip Obama a new one over this. Which they are already and always have been on the civil liberties issue.
When I said the Obama admin was worse than Bush/cheney in that regard— that isn’t merely my own opinion, but does reflect the consensus opinion for civil libertarians.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:18:45pm |
re: #376 Silvergirl
Can you imagine working in retail at the height of the holidays and have her come up to you with a complaint?
Yes, because I work retail and I’ve had to deal with people like that. What’s more, I’ve had to tell them that they’d have to pay for a new phone. When they hear that, people like her tend to go ballistic, and that’s always a pain. Still, I always keep my cool. Thankfully, I’m too big for most of them to contemplate hitting me.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:20:00pm |
re: #368 MrPaulRevere
Full on moonbat alert: This one is actually kinda scary, look at the eyes, she rarely blinks. Embedding is disabled, click to watch it on you tube.
Hmm. Even if she weren’t obviously deranged, the fact that she’s disabled comments and ratings disqualifies her in my view.
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Silvergirl Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:20:17pm |
re: #381 Dark_Falcon
Yes, because I work retail and I’ve had to deal with people like that. What’s more, I’ve had to tell them that they’d have to pay for a new phone. When they hear that, people like her tend to go ballistic, and that’s always a pain. Still, I always keep my cool. Thankfully, I’m too big for most of them to contemplate hitting me.
My deepest sympathies!
I’m glad you have your size as a buffer between you and the irate.
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BatGuano Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:22:36pm |
re: #370 iceweasel
Show me ‘round your snow peaked mountains way down south,
take me to you daddy’s farm.
Let me hear your balaika’s ringing out,
come and keep your comrade warm.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:24:49pm |
re: #383 Silvergirl
My deepest sympathies!
I’m glad you have your size as a buffer between you and the irate.
I’ve only been threatened one time. I was able to get out of that situation with otu being attacked though. The guy later complained to Cingular (my employer at the time) and said that I was being belligerent. Thankfully, the incident was observed by a co-worker and someone from customer service who happened to be walking by. Both of them vouched for me and I was ultimately praised for my correct handling of the matter.
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iceweasel Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:34:37pm |
re: #363 Dark_Falcon
You are correct about the trial’s impacts. As for myself, I don’t think there should be any trials at all. The terrorists in question are scum, and I cannot for the life of me really believe they have any rights at all.
Well, that’s one area where we’re not going to agree…That is, I completely agree with you that they’re scum, but I feel like the US has to be held to a higher standard—the highest ones possible— because we’re better than they are. The US should hold itself to those standards, because it only proves how much better we are, that we don’t stoop to their levels.
Also, setting aside the morality issues, there are practical considerations. From what I’ve read I’ve concluded that torture doesn’t work. And it also has the effect of endangering our troops further.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:38:15pm |
re: #386 iceweasel
Well, that’s one area where we’re not going to agree…That is, I completely agree with you that they’re scum, but I feel like the US has to be held to a higher standard—the highest ones possible— because we’re better than they are. The US should hold itself to those standards, because it only proves how much better we are, that we don’t stoop to their levels.
Also, setting aside the morality issues, there are practical considerations. From what I’ve read I’ve concluded that torture doesn’t work. And it also has the effect of endangering our troops further.
No, we won’t agree. The idea that someone like Ramiz Binalshebi can be considered a victim for something done to him sticks in my craw sideways. That said, I’ll drop the issue. We both know where the other stands, and I value your input too much to get into arguments with you.
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iceweasel Sun, Aug 23, 2009 11:51:50pm |
re: #387 Dark_Falcon
No, we won’t agree. The idea that someone like Ramiz Binalshebi can be considered a victim for something done to him sticks in my craw sideways. That said, I’ll drop the issue. We both know where the other stands, and I value your input too much to get into arguments with you.
Oh, we can totally have a discussion about it anytime you like—- you know I totally respect and value your opinion! I learn from you even (possibly especially when!) we disagree. I wouldn’t get angry or anything.
That being said, I feel kinda silly tonight and not much into heavy discussion. ;)
(ps will read your article, btw. still havent forgotten!)
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Aug 24, 2009 12:01:55am |
re: #389 iceweasel
Oh, we can totally have a discussion about it anytime you like—- you know I totally respect and value your opinion! I learn from you even (possibly especially when!) we disagree. I wouldn’t get angry or anything.
That being said, I feel kinda silly tonight and not much into heavy discussion. ;)
(ps will read your article, btw. still havent forgotten!)
Thank you.
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razorbacker Mon, Aug 24, 2009 5:27:51am |
Someone upthread was telling how their supermarkets raised prices on the weekends, then dropped them back down for the weekday.
Now, I’m not saying that is doesn’t happen, I’m just interested in the mechanics of it all.
Consider. You have to enter the computer system and change the prices there, go to the shelves and change the prices on the edges of the shelves where shoppers look, then change the prices on each individual item on the shelf. And then make sure that all prices on banners, flags, shelf-talkers, isle markers and the like agree.
I wonder, would the increased income make up for the increased labor expense? Not to mention the simple expense of paying for the new price labels (a considerable expense in its own right).
I can see how it would work with a gas station; there you just change the price on the signs and the price on the pump and go on.
But changing prices in a retail outlet with thousands, more likely tens of thousands, of items seems a mite problematic, to me. That’s one reason why, when items are on sale, there is generally just a shelf flyer noting the sale price, with the items themselves still reflecting the old, higher price. When you get to the register and the item rings up less than marked, folks for some reason don’t complain as often as when the item rings up more than marked.
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djranger Mon, Aug 24, 2009 7:30:30am |
My top three picks: Hal Blaine, Ian Paice, John Bonham
No fluff or filler - just great drumming!
BTW - thanks for the Porcupine Tree video - another great contemporary band flying under the radar.
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Danny Mon, Aug 24, 2009 8:17:46am |
Never heard of these guys, but I like em. Thanks Charles!
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jzm Mon, Aug 24, 2009 12:21:57pm |
re: #27 Racer X
..is a monster.
My favorite drummer of all time is Keith Moon. Controlled chaos. To listen to him play you think ‘wow this guy is awesome!’. And then you watch him and you are just amazed. He looks completely out of control, and yet totally in control at the same time.
We miss you Keith.
I’m A MOONIE WHORE
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soonerpoker Mon, Aug 24, 2009 7:05:22pm |
eh, vinnie c. is better with more interesting chops/variations on fills…re: #4 Charles
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-jt- Mon, Aug 24, 2009 8:15:29pm |
Couldn’t help but notice a couple Neil Peart references here. Rush fans might want to note that Alex Lifeson makes a guest appearance on Porcupine Tree’s album, “Fear of a Blank Planet.” Guitar solo on the tune, “Anesthetize”. It’s smokin’ hot!
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rikzilla Mon, Aug 24, 2009 10:52:17pm |
Wow thanks Charles!
I had never heard these guys before, been listening to the entire concert on youtube. You also clued me into Joe Bonamassa…so thanks and double thanks!
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pyrodoctor Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:30:58pm |
Porcupine Tree was one of the best live act’s I’ve ever seen. Wicked drummer chops. Awesome sound quality.
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phil Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:03:26am |
I discovered Porcupine Tree just before the release of Deadwing, and quickly fell in love with their music. Can’t wait to see them in Montreal, this Sept. 29th. I even put in a request to their management for permission to photograph the show, to which their tour manager replied “send me an email a few days before the show, and I’ll see if I can set you up with a press pass”. Wow. I wasn’t even expecting a response.
Anyways, a few vids that very nicely illustrate the phenomenal talent that is Gavin Harrison:
A more fluid drummer I have not seen.
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