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1 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:12:53pm

Why tipping points are real. Repost.

[Link: www.sussex.ac.uk...]

2 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:13:25pm

weet dreams all!

3 itellu3times  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:15:43pm

re: #1 LudwigVanQuixote

Why tipping points are real. Repost.

[Link: www.sussex.ac.uk...]

My response reposted: that's crackpot stuff, not science.

4 realwest  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:16:20pm

Um, Charles - was on my way to bed when I saw this.
I think you mean General McAuliffe - general in charge of the 101st abn Div. which heroically defended in the Battle of the Bulge.
Creighton Adams was a Commanding General during MY war, Vietnam!
Just saying...

5 Last Mohican  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:16:33pm

Ah, the open thread. That's my cue.

Good night everyone. I'll see you all tomorrow, unless I get sucked into the space troll continuum while I sleep.

6 itellu3times  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:19:26pm

re: #4 realwest

Um, Charles - was on my way to bed when I saw this.
I think you mean General McAuliffe - general in charge of the 101st abn Div. which heroically defended in the Battle of the Bulge.
Creighton Adams was a Commanding General during MY war, Vietnam!
Just saying...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Abrams was known as an aggressive and successful armor commander. General George Patton said of him, "I'm supposed to be the best tank commander in the Army, but I have one peer: Abe Abrams. He's the world champion." His unit was frequently the spearhead of the Third Army during WWII. Abrams was one of the leaders in the relief effort which broke up the German entrenchments surrounding Bastogne and the 101st Airborne Division during the Battle of the Bulge.
7 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:20:15pm

Most. Depressing. Calvin. And. Hobbes. Evar!

Evah!

8 MrPaulRevere  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:21:00pm

Abrams was known as an aggressive and successful armor commander. General George Patton said of him, "I'm supposed to be the best tank commander in the Army, but I have one peer: Abe Abrams. He's the world champion." [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

9 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:22:13pm

re: #3 itellu3times

My response reposted: that's crackpot stuff, not science.

Did you notice that this was a paper to the National Academy of Science?

Do you really consider PNAS to be crackpots?

Are you just trying to get my goat or are you being insane?

10 I Need A Bigger Gun  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:23:03pm

re: #4 realwest

Um, Charles - was on my way to bed when I saw this.
I think you mean General McAuliffe - general in charge of the 101st abn Div. which heroically defended in the Battle of the Bulge.
Creighton Adams was a Commanding General during MY war, Vietnam!
Just saying...

It was General Anthony McAuliffe that gave the now famous reply of "Nuts!" to the German demand of surrender of the 101st at Bastogne.

11 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:23:38pm

re: #7 Slumbering Behemoth

Most. Depressing. Calvin. And. Hobbes. Evar!

Evah!

OK, now I want to cry...

12 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:24:50pm

Beck isn't worthy to lick Barry Goldwater's boots.

/just wanted to say it again.

13 calcajun  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:25:58pm

re: #4 realwest

Actually, he was CO of the 37th Armored Btn, 4th Armored Div, II Corps, 3rd Army, Lt. Gen GS Patton, CO.

He was one of the liberators--not the surrounded.

14 Gus  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:26:33pm

Dug up some images of a young Lt. Col. Creighton Abrams during WWII:

Image: 4clnzo7.jpg

Image: boggess9.jpg

15 calcajun  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:26:47pm

re: #10 I Need A Bigger Gun

And he was acting CO-- the asst. div. CO-- the actual CO, Gen Max Taylor had been away on leave.

16 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:26:54pm

And my link to the tipping points, has just gotten it's first downding on the science boards. The deniers really hate that I keep posting science stuff at them.

17 realwest  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:27:03pm

re: #6 itellu3times
and
re: #8 MrPaulRevere
"During this time he was promoted to the brevet ranks of major (February 1942) and lieutenant-colonel (September 1943).
"During much of this time his unit was at the spearhead of the 4th Armored Division and the Third Army, and he was consequently well known as an aggressive armor commander. By using his qualities as a leader and by consistently exploiting the relatively small advantages of speed and reliability of his vehicles he managed to defeat German forces who had the advantage of superior armor and superior guns. He was twice decorated with the Distinguished Service Cross, second only to the Medal of Honor, for actions on September 20, 1944 and December 26, 1944. (Wiki)
No one can seriously challenge General McCaulife and the 101st Airborne Division for it's valiant defense of Bastogne.
Abrams and Patton FINALLY showed up to relieve the 101st, but it was McCaulife who said "NUTS" to the German surrender order.
Wished Abrams had been that good in Vietnam.

Now I'm definitely outta here for some sleep!

18 Gus  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:27:56pm

re: #17 realwest

Have a good one RW.

19 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:28:14pm

re: #17 realwest

and
re: #8 MrPaulRevere
"During this time he was promoted to the brevet ranks of major (February 1942) and lieutenant-colonel (September 1943).
"During much of this time his unit was at the spearhead of the 4th Armored Division and the Third Army, and he was consequently well known as an aggressive armor commander. By using his qualities as a leader and by consistently exploiting the relatively small advantages of speed and reliability of his vehicles he managed to defeat German forces who had the advantage of superior armor and superior guns. He was twice decorated with the Distinguished Service Cross, second only to the Medal of Honor, for actions on September 20, 1944 and December 26, 1944. (Wiki)
No one can seriously challenge General McCaulife and the 101st Airborne Division for it's valiant defense of Bastogne.
Abrams and Patton FINALLY showed up to relieve the 101st, but it was McCaulife who said "NUTS" to the German surrender order.
Wished Abrams had been that good in Vietnam.

Now I'm definitely outta here for some sleep!

Me too. I have an AM shift tomorrow and I need my sleep. Goodnight, all.

20 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:28:33pm

re: #16 LudwigVanQuixote

Off set with an upding!

21 I Need A Bigger Gun  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:28:39pm

I saw the Barbara Boxer "don't call me ma'am, call me Senator because I worked really hard" video again over the weekend (I can't remember what the subject was) on one of the cable TV shows, and it occurred to me that to become a Senator or other Washington politician you don't really have to work hard, you just have to be a better bullshitter than your opponent.

22 realwest  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:28:44pm

re: #7 Slumbering Behemoth Ah geez I really didn't need to see that one Slumbering Behemoth!!
and WHATEVER YOU DO DON'T SHOW THAT TO MANDY! I'm begging ya!

23 Gus  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:28:58pm

re: #19 Dark_Falcon

Me too. I have an AM shift tomorrow and I need my sleep. Goodnight, all.

Later DF.

24 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:29:36pm

Goodnight, sleepyheads!
{RW}

25 tradewind  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:30:51pm

Trouble in TOTUS' vacation paradise: A 26 year old Brazilian painter has died from swine flu, and the locals are outraged. A sample comment:

Who could have guessed that the illegal immigrant crisis on the Vineyard would spawn a potential plague?

How about we bust these houses with 10, 15, 20 or more occupants for operating illegal boarding houses and shut these disease-incubators for good? Maybe some properties should be condemned.

Folks, the illegal immigration situation on this island is hitting critical mass. It's bad enough that they steal our jobs, steal our resources, and endanger us all on our streets & byways; now we have sit silently by while their crowded pigsties breed death?
This joke is over. We will not sit quietly, watching as the circle of visible symptoms tightens around us.


[Link: www.mvtimes.com...]

26 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:30:59pm

re: #20 Floral Giraffe

Off set with an upding!

Thank you! I would like it to stay up long enough to be seen.

27 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:32:02pm

Get ready for the next round:

Michael Jackson's death ruled a homicide by LA coroner

Michael Jackson's death has been ruled a homicide - and the evidence points to his doctor.

Eight weeks after the King of Pop died, a detective's affidavit revealed Monday what had long been suspected - that the docgave Jackson "lethal levels" of the dangerous anesthetic drug Propofol.

Jackson's doctor Conrad Murray, who has been the chief target of a manslaughter investigation into his death, has not been charged.

28 realwest  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:32:39pm

re: #13 calcajun
Precisely - he was not one of the surrounded.
Now go read Charles lead in to this thread!
It was McCaulife who, when surrounded, said Nuts to the German Commanding officer who order the surrender of Bastogne and the 101st Airborne Division.
Abrams wasn't surrounded, McCaulife was!

No GOOD NIGHT!

29 itellu3times  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:33:48pm

re: #9 LudwigVanQuixote

Did you notice that this was a paper to the National Academy of Science?

Do you really consider PNAS to be crackpots?

Are you just trying to get my goat or are you being insane?

You and your goat do whatever you want.

There's a lot of bad science published.

But this, at a glance, isn't even science, but wild speculations, random gobs of math stuck to maps of the globe.

Are you familiar with all the hockey-stick projections of the 1970s?

You going to seriously sit and tell me about a butterfly flapping its wings in the Amazon and causing a hurricane to wash out New Orleans?

Catastrophism has always been considered bad science. OK, it's not always bad science, because it turns out, now and then, an asteroid shows up, or the like. But ANY crazed theory of tipping points has something to contend with, and that's the ACTUAL history of climate on Earth for the last two billion years. There are hardly any occurrences that qualify as "tipping points", and most probably took thousands to millions of years to "occur".

30 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:33:50pm

re: #27 Sharmuta

Get ready for the next round:

Michael Jackson's death ruled a homicide by LA coroner

Ahhh Sharmuta, Did we not tell you that we Zionist OVerlords do not want your news to report anything real as things come to a boil on your world?

Just wait until Lindsay Lohan gets pregnant with his frozen sperm!

BWAhahahaha

You won't even notice Iran's new "toys."

31 calcajun  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:34:08pm

One of the most hellish battles the US Army ever participated in.

A scene from the movie "Patton" has new significance for me. During the advance north during the Ardennes offensive (I hate the term "Battle of the Bulge) Patton looks on with great pride as his men advance through th e cold and snow and re-engage the Germans.

But, take a second to think that those men were not professional soldiers. A year or two earlier they had been clerks, farmers, students, salesmen from all walks of life. In a short space of time, they had been transformed into one of the most effective fighting forces the world had ever seen. Those boys-- men-- were our fathers, uncles and grandfathers. Remember what they endured and what they did.

32 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:35:15pm

re: #31 calcajun

One of the most hellish battles the US Army ever participated in.

A scene from the movie "Patton" has new significance for me. During the advance north during the Ardennes offensive (I hate the term "Battle of the Bulge) Patton looks on with great pride as his men advance through th e cold and snow and re-engage the Germans.

But, take a second to think that those men were not professional soldiers. A year or two earlier they had been clerks, farmers, students, salesmen from all walks of life. In a short space of time, they had been transformed into one of the most effective fighting forces the world had ever seen. Those boys-- men-- were our fathers, uncles and grandfathers. Remember what they endured and what they did.

Amen! And then I think of actual NAzis walking around the U.S. today... Makes me cranky.

33 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:35:29pm

re: #11 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #22 realwest

It is pretty sad. Obviously a commentary on unnecessarily medicating children. So much of that is unnecessary, children's behavior needing corrective medication.

Even more sadly, sometimes it is vitally necessary. My young cousin, the poor kid ain't right. I wish it weren't so.

35 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:36:22pm

re: #30 LudwigVanQuixote

I'm thinking I wouldn't want to be the remembered as the guy that killed Michael Jackson.

36 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:36:36pm

re: #27 Sharmuta

The man will be hung by the public long before the facts are in.

37 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:37:46pm

re: #29 itellu3times

You and your goat do whatever you want.

There's a lot of bad science published.

But this, at a glance, isn't even science, but wild speculations, random gobs of math stuck to maps of the globe.

Are you familiar with all the hockey-stick projections of the 1970s?

You going to seriously sit and tell me about a butterfly flapping its wings in the Amazon and causing a hurricane to wash out New Orleans?

Catastrophism has always been considered bad science. OK, it's not always bad science, because it turns out, now and then, an asteroid shows up, or the like. But ANY crazed theory of tipping points has something to contend with, and that's the ACTUAL history of climate on Earth for the last two billion years. There are hardly any occurrences that qualify as "tipping points", and most probably took thousands to millions of years to "occur".

So unstable equilibria have never existed? Nonsense. It is impossible to break things? Also, nonsense. What about the thaw of the oceans 500 million years ago? Not nonsense.

You are not making any sense.

How about rather than making blanket statements, you contest what is actually in the paper, after reading it, rather than glancing at it? Then say something substantive.

38 Silvergirl  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:42:16pm

Obama's Summer of Discontent

I logged in momentarily to post this in the spinoffs. This writer put his words together well, and some of you may like it as much as I did.

And now . . . truly, good-night.

39 tradewind  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:42:51pm

Michael Jackson, pretty much, is the man who killed Michael Jackson.
Had the last straw not been administered (allegedly) by Conrad Murray, there would have been some other Dr Feelgood.
It is tragic, but ultimately, the choice to check out early was made by the man in the mirror.

40 tradewind  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:45:16pm

re: #29 itellu3times

/You really went there/
:)
...Stand back...

41 davinvalkri  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:46:02pm

re: #7 Slumbering Behemoth

Most. Depressing. Calvin. And. Hobbes. Evar!

Evah!

Damn, that IS sad!

I've seen a few on a similar plane...

This one...

Also a theory on this page (scroll down to "Calvin is Dead").

42 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:47:36pm

re: #40 tradewind

/You really went there/
:)
...Stand back...

Nah, he hasn't actually been insulting. So I just want him to actually read the paper rather than dismiss it and then say something substantive and actually scientific to refute it rather than blustering.

43 davinvalkri  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:48:01pm

re: #41 davinvalkri

One more, because I'm a bastard like that.

Probably not work safe.

44 freetoken  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:48:57pm

re: #35 Sharmuta

The Great Conspiracy Of Our Time.

Where were you when MJ died?
Where were you when they caught his supposed murderer?
Did you watch the trial?

/there will be lots of money to be made off of this...

45 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:49:55pm

re: #44 freetoken

The Great Conspiracy Of Our Time.

Where were you when MJ died?
Where were you when they caught his supposed murderer?
Did you watch the trial?

/there will be lots of money to be made off of this...

This is going to make the OJ trial seem like a elementary school production.

46 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:51:30pm

re: #45 Sharmuta

There appears to be a LOT of money to be had from MJ's estate. The lawyers must be salivating. I think they will be the only winners, here.

47 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:53:57pm

re: #44 freetoken

re: #45 Sharmuta

Like I said... it is a very good way to prevent actual news from being reported. Don't get me wrong, I have no particular animus towards MJ, rather, the circumstances of his decline and overdose - even if it was malpractice are simply not as important as Iran, (have we heard anything about that lately? You think they stopped?), the economy (apparently nothing there to look at), health care (yeah, the debate is over, move along) or AGW (did you know that Greenland is OK now... nothing to fear...).

48 Syrah  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:55:27pm

re: #33 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #22 realwest

It is pretty sad. Obviously a commentary on unnecessarily medicating children. So much of that is unnecessary, children's behavior needing corrective medication.

Even more sadly, sometimes it is vitally necessary. My young cousin, the poor kid ain't right. I wish it weren't so.

A Brave New World.

Soma is happy candy . . .

50 Sharmuta  Mon, Aug 24, 2009 11:59:02pm

re: #47 LudwigVanQuixote

You are correct imo, but the populace will demand to be catered to, and thus 24/7 coverage of this trial will be had. Just because it's wrong doesn't mean it's not reality.

Besides- think of it this way: it will be it's own stimulus to the local community to have half the world's press covering the trial. California needs this...

51 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:00:49am

Gimme small unmarked bills, please.
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

52 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:01:13am

re: #50 Sharmuta

And to think that America used to make its money by making things...

53 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:02:44am

Gotta sleep - lady is calling... Be well!

54 Gus  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:06:09am

My connection to LGF is still acting up. Ever since Saturday.

55 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:06:18am

NJ town wishes to make no room for Gadhafi

Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi will set foot on U.S. soil for the first time next month when he comes to address the U.N. General Assembly. Now he wants to put down stakes in the middle of American suburbia.

Plans to set up a tent and allow him to stay at a Libyan-owned estate in this upscale community 12 miles north of Manhattan, were attacked Monday by neighborhood residents and public officials, particularly after the hero's welcome extended by Libya last week to the lone man convicted in the 1988 bombing of Pan American Flight 103.

56 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:07:02am

Ugh...Bill Maher is on Conan. He's such a fucking joke.

57 Sloppy  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:07:30am

Re: McAuliffe

Am I the only one who suspects McAuliffe said something much more pungent in replying to the German commander? The initials might have been GFY, or Mandy's GPUAR. I spent a few days with the 101st, years ago, and they struck me as the kind of guys who'd think "Nuts" was inadequate or maybe even effeminate.

58 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:07:36am

re: #54 Gus 802

Might be your modem- the cord or ports.

59 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:07:50am

re: #55 Sharmuta

NJ town wishes to make no room for Gadhafi

Will his crack team of women body guards be with him?

60 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:08:59am

"I will show you Obama's birth certificate if you show me Sarah Palin's high school diploma"

What a jerkoff. Why throw Palin in there?

61 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:09:53am

re: #60 TheMatrix31

"I will show you Obama's birth certificate if you show me Sarah Palin's high school diploma"

What a jerkoff. Why throw Palin in there?

Because he has a show to pimp and he is a crackpot lefty.

62 Gus  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:10:38am

re: #58 Sharmuta

Might be your modem- the cord or ports.

Yeah. Every other connection is working fine actually. Even removed Safari and reinstalled several times to no avail. I'm wondering if it's ever since I did a Windows update. Still haven't pinned it down.

Plus it keeps loading which is something I never noticed before. On the status bar is says:

Loading "http...completed 139 of 140 items."

That last number just grows into the 1000s eventually. The icons are slow to load sometimes. Etc.

63 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:12:00am

re: #62 Gus 802

That's what I was getting when I was having modem issues.

64 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:13:36am

"When the president speaks, English teachers don't cry now."

1) Shut the fuck up, Bill.

2) The irony in that sentence is delicious.

3) Have you HEARD this douchebag speak off the cuff, Bill?

65 Gus  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:14:16am

re: #63 Sharmuta

That's what I was getting when I was having modem issues.

OK, I'll check later. Unplug everything and re-plug.

66 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:15:11am

re: #64 TheMatrix31

"When the president speaks, English teachers don't cry now."

1) Shut the fuck up, Bill.

2) The irony in that sentence is delicious.

3) Have you HEARD this douchebag speak off the cuff, Bill?

Um, ah, let me be clear, uh...(repeat as needed)

67 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:15:37am

Wow...this guy's pissing me off. I'm flipping the channel.

68 shortshrift  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:16:13am

re: #55 Sharmuta

And while we are on the subject of foreign relations, here is a link from a not invariably reliable source...
The open hand to Iran is now closed?
(I moved this from a dead thread.)

69 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:16:31am

re: #65 Gus 802

My modem came with a USB port, so I switched to that and my LGF page loading issues went buh-bye.

70 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:17:30am

re: #67 TheMatrix31

Wow...this guy's pissing me off. I'm flipping the channel.

I know what you are getting for Christmas...
[Link: thetvbrick.com...]

71 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:17:31am

Before I changed the channel, he said that people are morons for not wanting healthcare, that Obama just needs to ram it through, that in this respect he needs to be more like Bush because Bush had that swagger even if he had horrible ideas. He brought up some thing about Cheney saying "So?" in response to the question.

Hey asshole, did you HEAR when Obama said "I won"?

72 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:18:32am

re: #70 Cannadian Club Akbar

I know what you are getting for Christmas...
[Link: thetvbrick.com...]

That's seriously a great idea.

When Cheap Shot Rob hit that shot in the 2002 WCF against the Kings, I threw my remote at the TV and broke it in two. The remote, not the TV.

73 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:18:48am

Gus- are other pages loading fine?

74 Syrah  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:20:28am

re: #71 TheMatrix31

Before I changed the channel, he said that people are morons for not wanting healthcare, that Obama just needs to ram it through, that in this respect he needs to be more like Bush because Bush had that swagger even if he had horrible ideas. He brought up some thing about Cheney saying "So?" in response to the question.

Hey asshole, did you HEAR when Obama said "I won"?

The trick now is to use him as the poster child of the Dem-left. Make him the face and voice of the Democrat Party. His nastiness can be put to good use.

75 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:20:53am

re: #43 davinvalkri

Oh, so wrong, and yet very funny.

76 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:22:16am

re: #72 TheMatrix31

Shut off the TV, turn up the speakers. This is cool.

77 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:26:32am

re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar

Shut off the TV, turn up the speakers. This is cool.


Woah lol

78 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:26:47am

re: #48 Syrah

Seems to be the case for many (re: Happy Candy), but in my poor cousin's case it ain't that simple.

Without putting too fine a point on it, the kid ain't right, and medication is necessary. I wish it weren't so, but it is.

79 Gus  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:29:39am

re: #73 Sharmuta

Gus- are other pages loading fine?

Back. I managed to lose my video connection while re-plugging something else. Yeah, everything else is loading as normal.

80 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:32:25am

re: #76 Cannadian Club Akbar

Very nice. This long time, wholly devoted metal-head is not ashamed to admit that I enjoy the dulcet tones of Sade.

/also have had kind of a crush on her for some years now...

81 Syrah  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:33:20am

re: #78 Slumbering Behemoth

Seems to be the case for many (re: Happy Candy), but in my poor cousin's case it ain't that simple.

Without putting too fine a point on it, the kid ain't right, and medication is necessary. I wish it weren't so, but it is.

There are some that are as you put it, not right. That is unfortunate.

What is tragic is that with Ritalin, our schools are using psychotropics to take what would have been described as normal rambunctious kids a hundred years ago, to turn them into zombified shells of children.

Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn would never have survived our modern government run school system. The "system" would have drugged them into blandness, obedient and half dead.

82 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:33:31am

re: #78 Slumbering Behemoth

My friends wife is being taken off her meds by her shrink. He went with her to an appointment and it turns out she was less than honest with the doc. This is not gonna be pretty.

83 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:33:35am

re: #78 Slumbering Behemoth

I'm very much opposed to medicating children unnecessarily, but I'm fully aware that there are some children that truly have an issue. Our brains are still such a mystery it causes me to hesitate on medication, but I have known people who have truly needed it and for them- it's a life changer, and for the positive.

84 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:35:22am

re: #80 Slumbering Behemoth

I grew up with Judas Priest, Zeppelin, Sabbath, Iron Maiden, etc. I love TOOL. But I like more stuff now. But very little country and almost zero rap.

85 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:38:43am

re: #82 Cannadian Club Akbar

Tell your friend to watch his back. Through no fault of her own, his wife could do something drastic. Certain drugs cannot be dropped, cold turkey, without truly screwing a person up.

86 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:39:10am

I suck down medicine. I feel like if I'm feeling an ailment, and there's medicine to help me, I'm going to take it. Never understood those opposed to medicine in those cases.

Unless you guys are talking solely about personality disorders and medicines for that, in which case I have no idea or experience.

87 Syrah  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:39:36am

re: #84 Cannadian Club Akbar

I grew up with Judas Priest, Zeppelin, Sabbath, Iron Maiden, etc. I love TOOL. But I like more stuff now. But very little country and almost zero rap.

I almost posted something unspeakable rude about Rap and those idiots who wear their pants with their belt below their ass. . . but I decided that I should refrain.

88 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:42:24am

re: #84 Cannadian Club Akbar

I still bang my head and throw the horns, and I'll still be doing that when I am old and gray, but I have grown to appreciate something about every style of music there is. Even country and rap.

89 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:43:38am

re: #85 Slumbering Behemoth

Tell your friend to watch his back. Through no fault of her own, his wife could do something drastic. Certain drugs cannot be dropped, cold turkey, without truly screwing a person up.

They are taking her off slowly. My dad had a pill holder that you filled once a week, Monday through Sunday, to make things easy to remeber for meds. She has a pill holder that runs the 1st to the 31st. And it is filled.
And she braggs that she doesn't drink.

90 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:43:51am

re: #79 Gus 802

My "new comments" button isn't working at all on this thread. Site is loading very slowly, even for this connection. I wonder if, as has happened in the past, the "overnight thread" has an extra or a missing tag?
Oh well, some LGF is better than NO LGF!

91 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:44:09am

re: #86 TheMatrix31


Unless you guys are talking solely about personality disorders and medicines for that, in which case I have no idea or experience.

I think that is kind of the theme, starting off with my post here.

92 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:44:27am

re: #87 Syrah

I almost posted something unspeakable rude about Rap and those idiots who wear their pants with their belt below their ass. . . but I decided that I should refrain.

You can't spell crap without rap:)

93 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:46:12am

re: #91 Slumbering Behemoth

I think that is kind of the theme, starting off with my post here.

Meh, wasn't really paying attention. Maybe I have ADD?

badum-chsh

94 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:47:08am

re: #89 Cannadian Club Akbar

They are taking her off slowly.

Good deal. I know you did not specify what the drug was, but many people have committed suicide, and worse, when dropping anti-depressants cold turkey.

This stuff is not to be treated lightly.

95 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:47:34am

Sharmuta & others, today I read "One Child" by Torey Hayden. The story of a violent 6 year old child. I enjoyed reading the story & the message of ultimate hope & strength, that even a 6 year old child has.
Have you read it?
What did you think?

96 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:48:14am

re: #92 Cannadian Club Akbar

You can't spell crap without rap:)

Better yet:

Rap. The only music with a silent "C".

/forget where I heard that.

97 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:48:59am

re: #94 Slumbering Behemoth

Good deal. I know you did not specify what the drug was, but many people have committed suicide, and worse, when dropping anti-depressants cold turkey.

This stuff is not to be treated lightly.


Her brother commited suicide last year with pills. I know he took a bottle of Soma or something like that. At first we thought it was an accident, spurnned on by drinking, but turns out he left notes. Bummer.

98 Gus  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:51:27am

re: #90 Floral Giraffe

My "new comments" button isn't working at all on this thread. Site is loading very slowly, even for this connection. I wonder if, as has happened in the past, the "overnight thread" has an extra or a missing tag?
Oh well, some LGF is better than NO LGF!

Hey. I don't know what's up. I just repaired my Ethernet PCI driver. Same deal. Took almost 30 seconds to "authenticate" my sign on.

99 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:53:40am

re: #98 Gus 802

And my "updinger" works on the first one, but goes to "spinning wheel of never" on the second, unless refreshed.

Gus, I think we're just getting old!
///

100 Gus  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:54:14am

re: #99 Floral Giraffe

And my "updinger" works on the first one, but goes to "spinning wheel of never" on the second, unless refreshed.

Gus, I think we're just getting old!
///

Could be. And it happened overnight! //

101 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:55:49am

re: #100 Gus 802

Could be. And it happened overnight! //

It is a LNDT conspiracy!!! Maybe you forgot to bring beer for the LNDT Overlord.

102 Gus  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:56:46am

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

It is a LNDT conspiracy!!! Maybe you forgot to bring beer for the LNDT Overlord.

D'oh! Forgot the Federal Reserve Beer!

//

103 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:58:06am

re: #102 Gus 802

SEE?
You were my 2nd ding & it didn't take.
HATE that little wheel of death...
Grrr

104 Gus  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 12:58:43am

re: #103 Floral Giraffe

SEE?
You were my 2nd ding & it didn't take.
HATE that little wheel of death...
Grrr

Really? My 102 just showed up twice.

105 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:01:15am

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

It is a LNDT conspiracy!!! Maybe you forgot to bring beer for the LNDT Overlord.

:Thundering, ominous voice from deep space:

YES, YES YOU DID FORGET TO BRING A COPIOUS OFFERING OF BEER FOR ME, YOUR LNDT OVERLORD! REMEDY THIS IMMEDIATELY, OR SUFFER THE DIRE CONSEQUENCES!

:whispering:
are they buying it? no? cue more thunder, damnit!

106 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:04:49am

re: #79 Gus 802

Back. I managed to lose my video connection while re-plugging something else. Yeah, everything else is loading as normal.

This still sounds like a modem issue to me. Everything else loaded fine for me except LGF. I would try free and cheap checks first. Try reversing the cord or buy a new cord tomorrow. Cheaper than replacing the whole modem. Could also be the port on your computer. Srsly- I think it's your modem. I lived with this issue for two weeks, and almost gave up LGF it was so bad. I wouldn't wish this page loading issue on anyone except a Deucer. You never appreciate a modem cord until one gives you fits.

107 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:05:26am

re: #102 Gus 802

LOL!
True Federal Reserve Story.
I donated to the local PBS satation & was given as a "prize" a tour of the local Federal Reserve Bank. When I got there, they gave me a badge & sent me to the 7th floor, some meeting room. I got off the elevator & noticed the flip chart with "tomorrow's new $20" announcement, with a new $20 attached. Got to the meeting room, full of guys with laptops, and realized this was NOT where I was supposed to be. Went back down & got sent the right place. At the end of the tour, I asked to see the new $20. SHOCKA! How did you know about that, it's a big seekrit, blah, blah, blah. We got shown the new $20 & it was fun!

108 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:07:09am

re: #107 Floral Giraffe

Gubment competency at work.

109 Gus  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:08:28am

Ugh, I give up. Safari just locked up on me. Brought Internet Explorer up and that was working.

Thanks Sharmuta, Floral Giraffe.

Good night all!

110 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:10:42am

re: #109 Gus 802

Goodnight! May the Internet Faerie visit you while you sleep, and resolve ALL your issues! Sleep Tight!

111 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:10:48am

re: #106 Sharmuta

Gus, Sharmuta has a good point here, and one I often forget. Check Layer 1 first. It is the most common, and inexpensive layer (comparative to others) that usually causes problems.

112 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:14:00am

re: #110 Floral Giraffe

Goodnight! May the Internet Faerie visit you while you sleep, and resolve ALL your issues! Sleep Tight!

The Internet Faerie better be hot, and it better be a female, when it comes to visit me. Otherwise it will be treated like a home invader.
/

113 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:15:02am

re: #111 Slumbering Behemoth

Yep- try painless fixes first because if it can get fixed for nothing, that's the best deal going. You can always work your way up.

114 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:17:57am

re: #113 Sharmuta

Yep- try painless fixes first because if it can get fixed for nothing, that's the best deal going. You can always work your way up.

I had to fix my John Deere lawn tractor. I started small, ended up putting about $50 total into it. Turned out I need a part that cost $1.39. D'oh!

115 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:20:34am

re: #113 Sharmuta

For some reason (thick skull?), this is a lesson I have to relearn perpetually. When it comes to networking, I have a tendency to start from the top down, rather than the bottom up.

I keep having to pound it into my noggin...
PHYSICAL LAYER FIRST!

116 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:25:15am

Sleepytime comes for me!
Good night, Lizards!
Stay scaly & fight on!

117 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:25:23am

re: #115 Slumbering Behemoth

I learned about the importance of modem cables through hard experience, but for other computer issues, I turn to my search engine and a couple good geek blogs. They really come in handy, and often times the fixes are easy. They've even helped me save one lizard from reinstalling his entire machine. "Nooo! Try the easy geek fix first!" Heh- he did and it worked.

118 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:25:37am

Since youz guyz know more about computers then me, when I turn on my laptop, I sometimes get the Blue Screen of Death. I shut it off and turn it back on and it usually works. But a couple times I needed to do it 3 or so times. Thoughts?

119 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:27:16am

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

Since youz guyz know more about computers then me, when I turn on my laptop, I sometimes get the Blue Screen of Death. I shut it off and turn it back on and it usually works. But a couple times I needed to do it 3 or so times. Thoughts?

Google it and read a geek blog. They're great.

120 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:27:56am

re: #119 Sharmuta

K.

121 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:31:00am

re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar

Some even have great step by step explanations with screen shots, so it's easy to see what to do with your fix. They're blogs, so they have comments too, and you can see if it helped the readers or not.

122 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:32:21am

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

Software incompatibility? Hardware incompatibility? Outdated or improper device drivers? Improper settings in the BIOS?

There could be a million reasons. Next time you get a BSOD, write down the code sequence and ask a pro.

P.S. I am not a pro.

123 BignJames  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:33:23am

re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar

K.

And while you're doing that, find out if the refrigerator light really does go out when you close the door.

124 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:33:25am

re: #121 Sharmuta

We have a computer geek show on the radio that my friend loves. I am usually at his house for BBQ when it is on. Maybe I'll start paying attention.

125 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:34:18am

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

Since youz guyz know more about computers then me, when I turn on my laptop, I sometimes get the Blue Screen of Death. I shut it off and turn it back on and it usually works. But a couple times I needed to do it 3 or so times. Thoughts?

Srsly- I know nothing about computers. This is such a complement in my book. Wish I could offer something better than google and geek blogs, but there you have it. The secret of my faux-geek success.

126 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:34:46am

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

Oh, and this website can sometimes be helpful. I have found a few answers/solutions there.

127 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:35:41am

re: #123 BignJames

And while you're doing that, find out if the refrigerator light really does go out when you close the door.

I worked with a guy who was about 5'2" and he would hide in a reach in cooler (restaurant) and I would ask a waitress to get me something out of the cooler. BOO!! Ah, good times.

128 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:38:48am

re: #125 Sharmuta
Hey, just pointing and saying "go there" is best. Tanks.

re: #126 Slumbering Behemoth

Tanks.

129 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:39:52am

re: #123 BignJames

And while you're doing that, find out if the refrigerator light really does go out when you close the door.

I used to tape down the fridge light switch just to mess with people sometimes. I also used a similar trick on computer mice, back when they still had track-balls.

Imadork.

130 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:47:00am

This is one of the many things I love about LGF. Ask a question, or ask for help on just about any other blog/forum, and you get an avalanche of smart ass remarks that (though sometimes funny) have nothing to do with your question.

Here? You might get a couple of good-natured jokes, but for the most part all responses attempt to be helpful.

The Lizard community rulez!

131 BignJames  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:54:02am

re: #130 Slumbering Behemoth

I would try to be helpful...if I weren't so helpless.


You mean like that?

132 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:54:51am

re: #130 Slumbering Behemoth

See, I tell people about LGF and tell them we have people who have specific knowledge of things (lawyers, financial, computer geeks, etc) and my friends ask how do I know that someone isn't faking. I tell them it doesn't work that way here, to many smart people and bullshit will be called. I tell them this isn't the early days of the intraweb with idiotic chat rooms. If you know something, fine. If you don't, ask. But don't play expert on something. Too easy to be proven as a fraud.*

*What's the frequency, Dan?*

133 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 1:59:19am

Diane: In that case may I suggest you propose again. I assure you this time I will accept your proposal.

Sam: Fine. I propose you step in front of a speeding bus. From now on I'm dedicating myself to life, liberty, and the pursuit of every woman in Boston except you.

134 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:00:52am

re: #133 TheMatrix31

Great. Cheers is on.

135 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:04:35am

re: #131 BignJames

I would try to be helpful...if I weren't so helpless.

You mean like that?

No, BigJames, I mean like this...

This poor guy, he didn't have it coming.

This guy, he had it coming.

Consider both links NSFW, just to be safe. For work. Especially the second link.

136 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:05:03am

re: #134 Cannadian Club Akbar

Great. Cheers is on.

On my TiVo, yes!

137 BignJames  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:09:32am

re: #135 Slumbering Behemoth


Well that's just great...you know I'm at work, right?

138 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:10:05am

re: #135 Slumbering Behemoth

I saw the first link the other day. I haven't laughed that hard in weeks.

139 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:13:00am

re: #132 Cannadian Club Akbar

The Lizardoid Fact Checkers are without mercy. Pimp bullshit here and you will get your ass handed back to you. In pieces.

140 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:18:09am

My local news radio is talking about getting shots for the flu, pig flu, etc. They said a total of 3 shots could be needed, 2 one day and 1 the next. When I was in Navy boot camp, we got 3 at 1 time. 1 in each upper arm and 1 in the back of an arm (tricep). Crybabies.

141 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:21:26am

re: #137 BignJames

Well that's just great...you know I'm at work, right?

Yes, I know you are at work. I know when you are at the grocery store. I know when you are getting your hair cut. I know when you are dropping off mail at the post office.

I know everything you do. EVERYTHING
///

142 srb1976  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:24:26am

Morning everyone!

143 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:28:35am

re: #142 srb1976

You came just before shift change. Morning.

144 srb1976  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:37:00am

re: #143 Cannadian Club Akbar

You came just before shift change. Morning.

That's me...always prompt...or early (I'm a little compulsive about it) = )

145 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:44:32am
They’ve got us surrounded again, the poor bastards.
— Creighton Abrams, during the Battle of the Bulge

Reminds me of those cheesy old westerns where the wagons were circled against the tactically challenged mounted aboriginal assailants who kept riding around and around waving their bows and shreiking, until the assailants all got shot.
Good Morning LGF.

146 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:46:43am

I got to go be-cah
Somethin' on my mine
And I wone git better
No madder how hard I try

Whoa-oh-ah-oh!
Yeah-ah-eh-ah!

Later Lizards.

G'nite {LoL}, wherever you are...

147 srb1976  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:53:34am

Puppy goes back to the vet today...just another follow up, but we are letting ourselves get very optimistic about her eye...looks like she's got a good chance of getting to keep it = )

148 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 2:58:17am

There is no media bias...

Here's a blast from the past. The New York Times, July 9, 2001, reports on George W. Bush's first summer vacation as president:

On Friday, as new unemployment figures painted a newly troubling portrait of the American economy, Mr. Bush placed himself in the same scenes--golfing and fishing in a New England paradise--that once caused his father electoral grief.
Simply amazing.
Here's the Bureau of Labor Statistics report, dated July 6, that "painted a newly troubling portrait of the American economy":

The unemployment rate was little changed at 4.5 percent, five-tenths of a percentage point higher than the average for 2000.
As Barack Obama embarked on his first summer vacation as president last week--also in a "New England paradise," Martha's Vineyard--the most recent unemployment rate was 9.4%, more than double the summer 2001 figure. Covering the Obama jaunt, the Times offers no hint that there's anything wrong with a president taking a vacation during a time of genuine crisis. Indeed, it offers this justification:

Mr. Obama, whom aides described as being amused by all of the gloom-and-doom prognosticating over his health care agenda, did not even consider skipping his vacation. Last year, he talked about the importance of taking a break to avoid "making mistakes."
That makes sense--and in any case, it's not as if the president actually escapes his responsibilities when he goes on "vacation." But the Times's coverage of Obama is a useful contrast to the paper's petty partisan sniping against Bush.

149 BignJames  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:05:19am

re: #141 Slumbering Behemoth

Yes, I know you are at work. I know when you are at the grocery store. I know when you are getting your hair cut. I know when you are dropping off mail at the post office.

I know everything you do. EVERYTHING
///


I cut my own hair...and it shows.

150 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:07:16am

re: #148 Cannadian Club Akbar

So the NYT finally got it right left?
Useful tools.

151 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:09:11am

re: #150 Spare O'Lake

So the NYT finally got it right left?
Useful tools.

They called my house trying to sell me a subscription. I told them if that paper hit my driveway I would...(the rest is deleted by me)

152 right_wing2  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:09:19am

re: #147 srb1976

Glad to hear it!

153 iceweasel  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:10:40am

Random musical interlude!

America: Fuck yeah! From Team America. Warning: language, etc.

154 srb1976  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:12:31am

re: #152 right_wing2

Glad to hear it!

Thanks...nothing's for sure yet (another week or 2 til the stitches come out) but she's doing very well! (Yay Spokes!)

155 right_wing2  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:14:21am

re: #148 Cannadian Club Akbar

Bush was constantly bashed any time he went on vacation. The media bias against Republicans/conservatives is so incredibly over the top I have to laugh at it.

I'll never forget a story from the '84 Republican convention which lead off with the line 'Blazing heat turned to blasting cold as we entered the convention', implying that if it'd been the DEMOCRAT convention, the a/c would have been set to a much more 'reasonable' level.

156 right_wing2  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:14:58am

re: #154 srb1976

What happened to the other dog?

157 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:17:09am

re: #155 right_wing2

Also remember, the Dems had a debate (2007?) in a stadium and the candidates got portable A/C units on stage while the crowd got to sweat.

158 soxfan4life  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:18:16am

re: #148 Cannadian Club Akbar

There is no media bias...

Here's a blast from the past. The New York Times, July 9, 2001, reports on George W. Bush's first summer vacation as president:

On Friday, as new unemployment figures painted a newly troubling portrait of the American economy, Mr. Bush placed himself in the same scenes--golfing and fishing in a New England paradise--that once caused his father electoral grief.
Simply amazing.
Here's the Bureau of Labor Statistics report, dated July 6, that "painted a newly troubling portrait of the American economy":

The unemployment rate was little changed at 4.5 percent, five-tenths of a percentage point higher than the average for 2000.
As Barack Obama embarked on his first summer vacation as president last week--also in a "New England paradise," Martha's Vineyard--the most recent unemployment rate was 9.4%, more than double the summer 2001 figure. Covering the Obama jaunt, the Times offers no hint that there's anything wrong with a president taking a vacation during a time of genuine crisis. Indeed, it offers this justification:

Mr. Obama, whom aides described as being amused by all of the gloom-and-doom prognosticating over his health care agenda, did not even consider skipping his vacation. Last year, he talked about the importance of taking a break to avoid "making mistakes."
That makes sense--and in any case, it's not as if the president actually escapes his responsibilities when he goes on "vacation." But the Times's coverage of Obama is a useful contrast to the paper's petty partisan sniping against Bush.

What about Michelle's willingness to make the girls little fashion models for J Crew when they went to Europe, but now wants no pictures taken? I can understand not wanting pictures of the family taken, but why is it OK to do it for one trip but not another?

159 srb1976  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:18:28am

re: #156 right_wing2

What happened to the other dog?

The one that bit her?
We still have her, we just keep them separated...near as we can tell, this was not a vicious attack, but more the result of a MUCH bigger dog getting annoyed at a small one (we think)

160 right_wing2  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:19:08am

re: #157 Cannadian Club Akbar

Couldn't be. The Democrats wouldn't have used a/c- it contributes to Global Warming, and we've all got to get rid of it. The Obamessiah said we can't set our thermostats to where we want to any more.

//

161 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:20:08am

He can take all the vacations he wants. No matter where he goes, he's still a fucking idiot.

162 soxfan4life  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:20:11am

re: #160 right_wing2

Couldn't be. The Democrats wouldn't have used a/c- it contributes to Global Warming, and we've all got to get rid of it. The Obamessiah said we can't set our thermostats to where we want to any more.

//


The ultimate in do as I say not as I do.

163 srb1976  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:21:06am

re: #161 TheMatrix31

He can take all the vacations he wants. No matter where he goes, he's still a fucking idiot.

We're better off when he's on vacation...at least he's not actively screwing things up! (Wish congress would go on more vacations too)

164 right_wing2  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:21:31am

re: #159 srb1976

Guess I didn't realize that the other dog was yours as well. I hope things work out, not just over the next few days, but long term.

165 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:23:32am

re: #161 TheMatrix31

He can take all the vacations he wants. No matter where he goes, he's still a fucking idiot.

You should get that on a shirt.

166 srb1976  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:24:40am

re: #164 right_wing2

Guess I didn't realize that the other dog was yours as well. I hope things work out, not just over the next few days, but long term.

Yeah, she's ours...I don't think we'll have any problems again...we don't usually let Spokes out to play with the big dogs (and we won't do it again!)
So she stays inside mostly...and the big dogs only come in at night.
We think this was supposed to be an annoyed nip that just happened to connect as the dog involved has never had a problem with other pets before (we have 4 dogs and a cat)

167 right_wing2  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:26:52am

re: #166 srb1976

What kind of dogs?

Before we got married, my wife had a Shepherd/chow/rottie mix that was better with her 5 cats than she was with people. She ended up loosing the dog to cancer last year though.

168 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:26:55am

re: #166 srb1976

I had a friend with a pet goat. The neighbors pit bull attacked it and took out an eye and an ear. The 2 animals would play with each other before it happened. Something spooked the dog. Bummer.

169 srb1976  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:30:22am

re: #167 right_wing2

We have 2 pugs, one puppy (spokes) and one elder statesman (he'll be 11 this year), a Dobie/Rottweiler mix and a golden retreiver. We've been very lucky as all the dogs are good with the kids and vice versa (it was very important to me that the kids learn to be nice to animals when they play...that's why we have a cat)

170 srb1976  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:31:05am

re: #168 Cannadian Club Akbar

I had a friend with a pet goat. The neighbors pit bull attacked it and took out an eye and an ear. The 2 animals would play with each other before it happened. Something spooked the dog. Bummer.

Wow...that sucks!

171 right_wing2  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:32:48am

Before we met, Karen had a Golden, too. No dogs here now (over run with cats though), but I had a Westie when I was a kid.

172 srb1976  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:35:23am

re: #171 right_wing2

Before we met, Karen had a Golden, too. No dogs here now (over run with cats though), but I had a Westie when I was a kid.

Sorry to hear about her dog...that's always rough.

Goldens are great, all the hair is kind of a pain, but ours is so good natured, it's hard to believe...wouldn't trade him for the world = ).

173 srb1976  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:37:43am

Ok folks...that's it for me,
Got to get to work...ya'll have a great day!

174 right_wing2  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:37:46am

re: #172 srb1976

Yeah, I can't even imagine what it'd take to turn a Golden mean. Lucy (the Shepherd mix) was never trained as a guard dog, but if anyone had broken in, they would have needed tweezers to get them out.

175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:38:52am

Inglorious Basterds!

The date movie of the year!

176 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:40:04am

re: #175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Inglorious Basterds!

The date movie of the year!

If I don't have a date, can I bring an olive?

177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:44:53am

re: #176 Cannadian Club Akbar

Meanwhile, back at the oasis, the Arabs were eating their dates...

178 soxfan4life  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:47:10am

re: #177 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Meanwhile, back at the oasis, the Arabs were eating their dates...

Their favorite Saturday night routine.

179 AmericanParty  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:52:03am

Hello from China! How are my beloved states doing?

180 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:53:31am

re: #179 AmericanParty

Hello from China! How are my beloved states doing?

Great!

I'll have an egg roll and the Kung Poa Chicken, please

181 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:54:35am

re: #180 sattv4u2

I'll have an egg roll and the Kung Poa Chicken, please

Do they even have egg rools and Kung Pao Chicken in China? Both of them look like something we would've made up...

182 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:54:42am

re: #179 AmericanParty

Hello from China! How are my beloved states doing?

I certainly hope you are bringing enough souvenirs for everyone.
//

183 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:55:01am

re: #179 AmericanParty

Hello from China! How are my beloved states doing?


Getting more like China every day!

184 AmericanParty  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:55:18am

re: #180 sattv4u2

I actually haven't found an egg roll yet :-( and the kung pao is very different than the US version!

but the engrish photos are a plenty!

185 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:56:06am

A drive by before I drive my son to school

Frank focused on reshaping US finance
Congressman relishing pivotal role in overhaul

As chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Frank is busy assembling a complex bill to give the federal government unprecedented control over the country’s financial institutions

[Link: www.boston.com...]

What could POSSIBLY go wrong!?!!?!

186 AmericanParty  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:57:37am

re: #182 Cannadian Club Akbar

any requests?

187 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:58:07am

re: #185 sattv4u2

A drive by before I drive my son to school

Frank focused on reshaping US finance
Congressman relishing pivotal role in overhaul

As chairman of the House Financial Services Committee, Frank is busy assembling a complex bill to give the federal government unprecedented control over the country’s financial institutions

[Link: www.boston.com...]

What could POSSIBLY go wrong!?!!?!

I wonder if he can score me a new mortgage.

188 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 3:58:37am

re: #186 AmericanParty

any requests?

Part of the Great Wall, please.

189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:01:06am

re: #186 AmericanParty

Whatcha doin' in China?

190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:07:39am

re: #189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Okay, don't tell me.

191 right_wing2  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:08:03am

Text of 4 of the various 'Health Care Reform' bills being introduced.

America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009 (HR 3200)
[Link: thomas.loc.gov...]

Healthy Americans Act (Introduced in Senate) (S391)
[Link: thomas.loc.gov...]

Healthy American Act (Introduced in the House (HR1321)
[Link: thomas.loc.gov...]

United States National Health Care Act or the Expanded and Improved Medicare for All Act (Introduced in House) (HR 676)
[Link: thomas.loc.gov...]

Just from a glance, HR676 seems to be the most radical.

192 AmericanParty  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:08:32am

re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am teaching English in China for 12 months

193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:09:43am

re: #192 AmericanParty

I tried to get my son to do that! He's a college graduate, trying to figure out what to do next. He could totally do that! Sounds like a great way to see the world!

194 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:10:07am

re: #192 AmericanParty

I am teaching English in China for 12 months

Make sure you teach the swear words first. Being prepared for the real world is very important.

195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:11:21am

re: #194 Cannadian Club Akbar

Make sure you teach the swear words first. Being prepared for the real world is very important.

"Sahn o beetch... sheet..."
-English Class, -"Stripes"

196 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:12:59am

re: #191 right_wing2

So which one is the "End of mortality-- Eternal life" bill?/

197 AmericanParty  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:13:09am

re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

It really is! I only work 20 hrs a week for a total of 3 days. The rest of the days I travel around. The company I work for is called Aston English, they are based in the US and they pay really nicely compared to the Chinese wages. And the TEFL course is only $100 if you take it through them!

198 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:13:20am

re: #195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Sahn o beetch... sheet..."
-English Class, -"Stripes"

When I was in Navy boot camp, we had a Filipino who knew zero English. By the time boot camp was over, his English was OK, but he sure could swear.

199 3 wood  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:16:01am

Good morning.

The futures are indicating that the market will open on the upside.

Fed Chairman Bernanke tapped for second term


President Barack Obama plans to announce the reappointment of Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke on Tuesday, reports said late Monday.

The announcement of a second term for Bernanke will be made from Martha's Vineyard, Mass., where Obama is currently vacationing, according to a Wall Street Journal report citing White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.

The Journal report said Obama will credit Bernanke for "pulling the economy back from the brink of depression."

I concur with the reappointment for 2 reasons:

1. After going through a very long learning curve, Bernanke finally seems to understand his job and has figure out how monetary policy in the real world actually works.

2. I do not trust Obama to find someone better. The Tim Geithner experience has been agonizing to say the least and I don't want to give Obama a chance to go find another moron like that.

200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:17:00am

re: #197 AmericanParty

I'd appreciate it if you'd click on my nic (it is blue) and send me some information on it. I'm trying to get him off his ass and out to see the world before he meets some dumb girl and gets married or somethin...

(BTW, same thing I want daughter to do before she meets some dumb boy, not being sexist here...)

201 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:18:09am

re: #192 AmericanParty

The New York version of that is the joke about the Jewish couple who go into the kosher restaurant on the Lower East Side. To their amazement, they're met at the door by a Chinese waiter who addresses them in perfect Yiddish.

He then seats them. give them menus, and takes their orders, all in perfect Yiddish.

When it comes time to pay, the husband steps up to the cash register and says to the owner, "What's with the Chinese guy who speaks perfect Yiddish"? "Shhh". says the owner. "He thinks he's learning English!"

202 3 wood  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:19:43am

re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I tried to get my son to do that! He's a college graduate, trying to figure out what to do next. He could totally do that! Sounds like a great way to see the world!

My #2 daughter finishes college next spring. The reality that in less than a year she will need to be working for a living, that the money spigot from the Bank of Dad is coming to an end shortly, has just hit her like a ton of bricks. She keeps walking around with this stunned look on her face.

It's interesting watching the little tykes when they get to that point.

203 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:22:24am

re: #199 3 wood

There is virtue and stability in continuity, but Ben has not yet proven himself a genius, or independent of President Obama. The real test will come when the inflation starts kicking in.

204 3 wood  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:24:37am

Court Orders Federal Reserve to Disclose Emergency Loan Details

The Federal Reserve must for the first time identify the companies in its emergency lending programs after losing a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit.

Manhattan Chief U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska ruled against the central bank yesterday, rejecting the argument that loan records aren’t covered by the law because their disclosure would harm borrowers’ competitive positions.

The Fed has refused to name the financial firms it lent to or disclose the amounts or the assets put up as collateral under 11 programs, most put in place during the deepest financial crisis since the Great Depression, saying that doing so might set off a run by depositors and unsettle shareholders. Bloomberg LP, the New York-based company majority-owned by Mayor Michael Bloomberg, sued on Nov. 7 on behalf of its Bloomberg News unit.

“The Federal Reserve has to be accountable for the decisions that it makes,” said Representative Alan Grayson, a Florida Democrat on the House Financial Services Committee, after Preska’s ruling. “It’s one thing to say that the Federal Reserve is an independent institution. It’s another thing to say that it can keep us all in the dark.”

I think they do need to disclose this.

205 [deleted]  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:24:50am
206 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:25:15am

re: #202 3 wood

The kids are freakin' terrified. As I was. As my father was...etc.

207 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:26:04am

re: #202 3 wood

My #2 daughter finishes college next spring. The reality that in less than a year she will need to be working for a living, that the money spigot from the Bank of Dad is coming to an end shortly, has just hit her like a ton of bricks. She keeps walking around with this stunned look on her face.

It's interesting watching the little tykes when they get to that point.

As someone who is also graduating next spring, I'd like to know if she feels the same discouragement to be successful as I do in regards to the leftist leadership's punishment/condemnation of the wealthy?

208 3 wood  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:26:17am

re: #203 quickjustice

There is virtue and stability in continuity, but Ben has not yet proven himself a genius, or independent of President Obama. The real test will come when the inflation starts kicking in.

Oh, I am no fan of Bernanke. He strikes me as confused and hesitant at times.

But I do not trust Obama to appoint somebody else, I fear we would get yet another socialist buddy of his.

209 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:27:40am

Good mornin'.

[Link: www.angryalien.com...]

210 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:28:17am

re: #27 Sharmuta

Get ready for the next round:

Michael Jackson's death ruled a homicide by LA coroner

And still I am yawning.

Sorry, this whole soap opera is no thriller to me.

211 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:28:21am

re: #207 TheMatrix31

As someone who is also graduating next spring, I'd like to know if she feels the same discouragement to be successful as I do in regards to the leftist leadership's punishment/condemnation of the wealthy?

Become a lobbyist for the left. Then it will be OK.

212 3 wood  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:28:25am

re: #206 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The kids are freakin' terrified. As I was. As my father was...etc.

I guess I was atypical then. I was too busy working to make it to my undergraduate graduation. I had them mail me the sheepskin.

213 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:29:15am

re: #204 3 wood

I know Judge Preska. She's the new chief judge of the Southern District of New York. She's terrific.

214 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:29:59am

re: #207 TheMatrix31

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

215 SixDegrees  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:30:03am

re: #204 3 wood

Court Orders Federal Reserve to Disclose Emergency Loan Details

I think they do need to disclose this.

Transparency is what banking regulations are supposed to be all about. If it causes a run on a particular institution or two, that institution probably deserves it.

216 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:30:33am

re: #210 JamesTKirk

Michael Jackson was paying that doc, what, $100,000 a month? He wasn't paying that kind of money for hernia exams!

217 3 wood  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:30:53am

re: #207 TheMatrix31

As someone who is also graduating next spring, I'd like to know if she feels the same discouragement to be successful as I do in regards to the leftist leadership's punishment/condemnation of the wealthy?

No, it's not that deep. She's just scared to death at the concept of having to support herself and pay for rent, gas, food and such.

She's just realizing that nobody is going to pay her to facebook and text all day long (unless she works at the post office).

218 AmericanParty  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:31:17am

re: #200 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Alright will do, I'm in the process of writing you now.

219 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:31:47am

re: #216 quickjustice

Michael Jackson was paying that doc, what, $100,000 a month? He wasn't paying that kind of money for hernia exams!

I'm pretty sure the production company putting on the European tour was paying.

220 3 wood  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:31:59am

re: #205 taxfreekiller

MIA Vietnam
Sgt. Jerry Michael Shriver, Army , Special Forces, S.O.G.-,1-0, Laos, Cambodia, Recon, BDA teams.
Cut off by larger forces, small 12 man team, ya, surrounded.
On a comm back to command and control...

"It's O.K. we have them surrounded from the inside".

Heroes, every one. May Gob bless them. And you.

221 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:32:06am

re: #214 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Maybe I will, Akbar...maybbbe I willl...

/Homer Simpson

222 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:32:25am

re: #217 3 wood

It's tough having to leave the nest!

223 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:34:14am

re: #219 Cannadian Club Akbar

That makes it tax deductible, right? So the production company paid the doctor who may have knocked off Michael Jackson in pre-tax dollars!

224 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:35:40am

re: #216 quickjustice

Michael Jackson was paying that doc, what, $100,000 a month? He wasn't paying that kind of money for hernia exams!

Why would he pay some old doctor $100000 a month when he had plenty of kids to play doctor with back at the Ranch?

225 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:35:53am

re: #223 quickjustice

That makes it tax deductible, right? So the production company paid the doctor who may have knocked off Michael Jackson in pre-tax dollars!

And I bet the had insurance on him.

226 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:36:07am

re: #35 Sharmuta

I'm thinking I wouldn't want to be the remembered as the guy that killed Michael Jackson.

A lot of parents of young children would probably want to shake your hand.

227 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:36:59am

re: #225 Cannadian Club Akbar

the=they, PIMF

228 3 wood  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:37:17am

GM Said to Be Close to Agreement on Sale of Hummer to Chinese

Aug. 24 (Bloomberg) -- General Motors Co. may sign an agreement for the sale of the Hummer sport-utility vehicle business to a Chinese machinery maker this week, said two people familiar with negotiations.

Executives from prospective buyer Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery Co. based in Chengdu, China, are expected to arrive in Detroit early this week for more negotiations with GM, said the people, who asked not to be named because the talks aren’t public. An agreement could be signed and announced during the trip, one of the people said. It will be subject to U.S. and Chinese regulatory approval before it will take effect.

GM Chief Executive Officer Fritz Henderson is working to dispose of half of the automaker’s U.S. brands so the carmaker can focus on the four that remain. The company is eliminating the Pontiac brand, and deals are pending to sell its Saab brand to Swedish sports car maker Koenigsegg Automotive AB and Saturn to Penske Automotive Group Inc.

Notice how when Bush was President the MSM was screaming about jobs being sent overseas.

Now, it's A OK.

229 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:37:51am

Town Hall alert! Lizard physicians: this is your chance to ask the White House the LGF health care questions!

To: Physicians
Subject: White House Conference Call Tuesday 8/25

HCMA/NHCMA MEMBERS:
The White House is holding a conference call for physicians on health insurance reform. Please see the call information below.

Tuesday, 8/25/09, 8:30 PM EST

Participant Call In Number:[no phone numbers allowed]

Email questions in advance to public@who.eop.gov

230 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:38:29am

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

Since youz guyz know more about computers then me, when I turn on my laptop, I sometimes get the Blue Screen of Death. I shut it off and turn it back on and it usually works. But a couple times I needed to do it 3 or so times. Thoughts?

Is it overheating?

231 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:39:01am

re: #229 quickjustice

Good. Another email address to send my porn spam to.

232 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:39:17am

re: #228 3 wood

Notice how when Bush was President the MSM was screaming about jobs being sent overseas.

Now, it's A OK.

That's because we're all one, big, happy, gumdrops-and-unicorns world now!

233 right_wing2  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:39:24am

re: #228 3 wood

Not only that, but our military vehicles are made by the Chinese.

What a crock.

234 3 wood  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:39:33am

re: #222 quickjustice

It's tough having to leave the nest!

The concept of getting up before noon (unless it's a for a trip to the mall) is a little hard to grasp.

Dad is enjoying this.

235 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:39:35am

re: #230 JamesTKirk

Is it overheating?

No, happens when I fire it up.

236 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:39:46am

re: #233 right_wing2

Not only that, but our military vehicles are made by the Chinese.

What a crock.

What a clock?

237 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:39:50am

re: #231 Cannadian Club Akbar

Not necessary. Just cut and paste the LGF health care questions.

238 [deleted]  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:41:15am
239 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:41:28am

re: #237 quickjustice

Not necessary. Just cut and paste the LGF health care questions.

Then wait for the Brown Shirts to knock on the door...

240 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:45:23am

re: #217 3 wood

No, it's not that deep. She's just scared to death at the concept of having to support herself and pay for rent, gas, food and such.

She's just realizing that nobody is going to pay her to facebook and text all day long (unless she works at the post office).

Oh ok. I must admit a lot of times I get discouraged and think "what's the point of all this?" when people are sitting on their ass doing nothing and hard working people are doing all the work. It's crazy how "incentive" is so important.

241 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:47:07am

re: #161 TheMatrix31

He can take all the vacations he wants. No matter where he goes, he's still a fucking idiot.

Remember how Bill Clinton's approval rating went up whenever he left the country...

But he never took the hint, and he kept coming back?!?

242 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:48:29am

re: #175 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Inglorious Basterds!

The date movie of the year!

Is it any good? Haven't heard any buzz yet.

/I'd take my wife to it.

243 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:50:21am

re: #195 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Sahn o beetch... sheet..."
-English Class, -"Stripes"

Remember the movie Johnny Dangerously, which got a PG rating because the one character who was constantly swearing was doing it with a thick accent?

"You corksucking iceholes have violated my farging rights!"

244 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:51:57am

re: #241 JamesTKirk

Remember how Bill Clinton's approval rating went up whenever he left the country...

But he never took the hint, and he kept coming back?!?

I was too young, only caught the tail end of his Presidency...the part where my dad's medical equipment business went t shit and we were forced to move down to this hellhole known as Los Angeles.

245 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:52:24am

re: #243 JamesTKirk

Roman Maroni.

246 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:53:27am

re: #228 3 wood

GM Said to Be Close to Agreement on Sale of Hummer to Chinese

Notice how when Bush was President the MSM was screaming about jobs being sent overseas.

Now, it's A OK.

Bush was also giving a hummer to the Chinese.

247 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:54:06am

re: #242 JamesTKirk

Date movie part? Completely sarcastic.

Movie? Frickin' Fantastic.

248 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:54:54am

re: #245 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Roman Maroni.

"Deported back to Sweden, claims he's not from there."

249 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:55:06am

re: #243 JamesTKirk

Remember the movie Johnny Dangerously, which got a PG rating because the one character who was constantly swearing was doing it with a thick accent?

"You corksucking iceholes have violated my farging rights!"

250 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:55:44am

re: #247 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Date movie part? Completely sarcastic.

Depends on the date.

251 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:56:21am

*grumble*

252 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:56:21am

re: #218 AmericanParty

Alright will do, I'm in the process of writing you now.

Much thanks. Put LGF in the subject line. Had to turn off my spam filter to get your email.

Really. Much thanks.

253 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:56:45am

re: #229 quickjustice

Arrrggghhh! I forgot that Charles bans posting phone numbers. He doesn't want LGF to becomes a dating service! ;-)

The White House call-in number begins with 800. I'll see if I can get Charles's permission to post it. Or, you can find it on my blog at

[Link: www.urbanelephants.com...]

254 AmericanParty  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:57:04am

I saw GI Joe in Chinese. I didn't need to know what they were saying to know it was a totally garbage movie...I hope they will get Bastards here soon!

255 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:57:05am

re: #252 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can/will you forward it?

256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:57:48am

re: #218 AmericanParty

Alright will do, I'm in the process of writing you now.

Got it! Thanks!

257 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:57:49am

re: #251 MandyManners

*grumble*

I'm sorry, have I not made enough dick jokes yet?

/ducks, runs

258 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:57:54am

re: #251 MandyManners

*grumble*

Not this early...

259 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:58:11am

re: #253 quickjustice

Arrrggghhh! I forgot that Charles bans posting phone numbers. He doesn't want LGF to becomes a dating service! ;-)

The White House call-in number begins with 800. I'll see if I can get Charles's permission to post it. Or, you can find it on my blog at

[Link: www.urbanelephants.com...]

1-800-BR549

260 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:59:37am

re: #239 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought the Mounties wore scarlet?

261 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 4:59:40am

re: #257 JamesTKirk

Good thing for you, young man, that I'm too sleepy to hoist my clue-by-four.

262 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:01:10am

re: #261 MandyManners

Good thing for you, young man, that I'm too sleepy to hoist my clue-by-four.

That's funny; I always have hard wood handy when I get up in the morning.

263 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:01:13am

re: #260 quickjustice

I thought the Mounties wore scarlet?

What are these Mounties you speak of?

264 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:03:23am

re: #234 3 wood

Morning, 3wood. I don't know if you saw this yesterday, but I've got an interview with a forex software/trading desk firm later today to sell their software (not the actual instruments) and I was wondering if you had any insights or thoughts about that crazy industry. If not, no biggie, I think I'm pretty prepared. I'll try to blue my nic so as to not bore all the others. Thx.

265 opnion  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:03:27am

Good morning fun seekers.

266 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:03:45am

re: #260 quickjustice

I thought the Mounties wore scarlet?

They do. Cannadian Club just loves our rye. He's an American I believe. Good morning all. Just another lovely day here in the Great White North where we have two seasons, cold and colder. :)

267 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:03:46am

re: #263 Cannadian Club Akbar

Descendants of the North West Mounted Police, founded at Fort MacLeod, Alberta, to suppress the American whisky traders in "Whoop-Up Country".

268 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:06:18am

re: #266 BlueCanuck

Yes. Florida. Thanks Blue. The nic always throws 'em.

269 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:07:12am

re: #268 Cannadian Club Akbar

Vero? I lived in Miami for ten years. Surf's up!

270 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:07:13am

re: #267 quickjustice

How about the story where the mounties escorted Sitting Bull and his tribe to the American border? The Colonel in charge of a large force met the mounty in charge. "Where's the rest of your men?" he asked.

"He's tying up the horses," was the reply.
They had respect of most peoples.

271 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:07:31am

Eric Holder is a shit.

272 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:08:23am

re: #258 Cannadian Club Akbar

Not this early...

Woke up with sand in my shorts.

273 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:08:30am

re: #269 quickjustice

Vero? I lived in Miami for ten years. Surf's up!

Vero Beach? Nice area.

274 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:08:33am

re: #269 quickjustice

Vero? I lived in Miami for ten years. Surf's up!

South of Tampa. Lived in West Palm and Pompano. Used to hang on South Beach.

275 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:08:53am

re: #270 BlueCanuck

When you're undermanned, diplomatic skills are very useful. Reminds me of the Texas Rangers. Their motto: "One riot, one ranger!"

276 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:09:15am

re: #272 MandyManners

Woke up with sand in my shorts.

...

277 opnion  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:09:36am

re: #271 MandyManners

Eric Holder is a shit.

Well put. The ridiculous part of this , is that Gibbs is trying to make it look like Obama doesn't really favor this so much, but you know his hands are tie. Bull

278 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:09:54am

re: #274 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sarasota? Beautiful. I'm wearing my Mote Marine T-shirt right now.

279 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:10:19am

re: #272 MandyManners

Woke up with sand in my shorts.

Don't sweat the petty stuff.
Pet the sweaty stuff.

280 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:10:28am

Here's a tip for happy living: don't set your alarm radio to a station that carries NPR.

281 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:11:02am

re: #278 quickjustice

Sarasota? Beautiful. I'm wearing my Mote Marine T-shirt right now.

Not Sarasota, but close. I know Mote well.

282 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:11:04am

re: #280 MandyManners

Here's a tip for happy living: don't set your alarm radio to a station that carries NPR.

This is one way to get you out of bed, if you have to run across your room to shut it off.

283 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:11:16am

re: #275 quickjustice

Not a problem of being undermanned, just the Canadian way. We are Hudson Bay people. It affected how we view things.

284 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:11:57am

re: #280 MandyManners

Here's a tip for happy living: don't set your alarm radio to a station that carries NPR.

I use the buzzer, it's less annoying...

285 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:12:27am

re: #280 MandyManners

NPR's OK for jazz reviews. "All Things Considered" stuff. For news, they're like squeaking chalk.

286 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:12:33am

My goodness. These people are orgasmic over this stuff. I bet it just curls their toes to once again say "the Bush Administration".

287 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:12:55am

re: #286 MandyManners

My goodness. These people are orgasmic over this stuff. I bet it just curls their toes to once again say "the Bush Administration".

But does it send a tingle up their legs?

288 opnion  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:13:01am

I'm sure that this was covered yesterday, but the VA sent out notices
to about 1,200 vets informing them that they have fatal Lou Gehrigs Disease.
Ooops, computer glitch, never mind. Government run health care.

289 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:13:39am

re: #283 BlueCanuck

My father was an Albertan.

290 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:13:52am

re: #288 opnion

I'm sure that this was covered yesterday, but the VA sent out notices
to about 1,200 vets informing them that they have fatal Lou Gehrigs Disease.
Ooops, computer glitch, never mind. Government run health care.

"Lou Gehrig. Died of Lou Gehrig's disease. How the hell did he not see that coming?" -Denis Leary

291 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:15:38am

re: #288 opnion

ALS. A dreadful debilitative disease. The vets should be grateful they didn't get cyanide pills enclosed to spare the government further expense!/

292 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:16:21am

re: #291 quickjustice

ALS. A dreadful debilitative disease. The vets should be grateful they didn't get cyanide pills enclosed to spare the government further expense!/

Well, Obamacare hasn't passed yet...

293 opnion  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:16:26am

re: #286 MandyManners

My goodness. These people are orgasmic over this stuff. I bet it just curls their toes to once again say "the Bush Administration".

Every one of these cases has been gone over by House committees, twice.
This is nothing but a witch hunt and distraction. The BHO Administration put out on Sunday that they miscalculated & the deficit is actually two trillion higher.

294 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:16:44am

I visited Fort MacLeod a couple of year ago. I didn't realize that's where they filmed "Brokeback Mountain".

295 opnion  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:17:15am

re: #290 JamesTKirk

"Lou Gehrig. Died of Lou Gehrig's disease. How the hell did he not see that coming?" -Denis Leary

What were the odds of that happening?

296 opnion  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:19:13am

re: #291 quickjustice

ALS. A dreadful debilitative disease. The vets should be grateful they didn't get cyanide pills enclosed to spare the government further expense!/

I wonder if they were referred to the 'My life, My Choices" pamphlet.
"Please check the appropriate box , if your life is not worth living. Have a nice day."

297 fat bastard vegetarian  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:19:27am

re: #290 JamesTKirk

"Lou Gehrig. Died of Lou Gehrig's disease. How the hell did he not see that coming?" -Denis Leary


Great Moments in Yankee History

Lou Gehrig...Norm MacDonald


Announcer: Lou Gehrig, the Pride of the Yankees, realizes he's fighting a losing battle with a devastating illness. On July 4th, 1939, he speaks to his adoring fans for one last time. A day that will live forever in Yankee history!

Lou Gehrig: Today.. I consider myself.. the luckiest man.. on the face.. of the earth. [ crowd cheers ] I was being sarcastic! I'm unlucky! I may be the unluckiest man.. on the face.. of the earth! I have a disease.. so rare.. they named it after me. Yeah, lucky me! [ crowd cheers harder ] You people are hopeless! [ storms off the field ]

298 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:21:40am
299 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:23:28am

re: #298 MandyManners

I didn't know you were AC/DC. That explains so much.

300 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:24:33am

re: #294 quickjustice

I visited Fort MacLeod a couple of year ago. I didn't realize that's where they filmed "Brokeback Mountain".

I'm not familiar with the area (I never saw the movie).

What was the landscape like? Were there nice, tight buttes?

301 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:24:41am

re: #293 opnion

re: #286 MandyManners

My goodness. These people are orgasmic over this stuff. I bet it just curls their toes to once again say "the Bush Administration".

Every one of these cases has been gone over by House committees, twice.
This is nothing but a witch hunt and distraction. The BHO Administration put out on Sunday that they miscalculated & the deficit is actually two trillion higher.

While the analyst crew at 6 and the awesome Megyn Kelly are keeping this very in-perspective, the idiot Fox newsreaders are every bit as annoying as anywhere else. Hurricane Katrina broke Shep Smith.

302 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:25:30am

re: #285 quickjustice

NPR's OK for jazz reviews. "All Things Considered" stuff. For news, they're like squeaking chalk.

I don't listen to any NPR. It just encourages them.

303 rwdflynavy  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:27:49am

I think Obama should replace Bernanke with Willie Nelson. Who's with me!!?

304 rwdflynavy  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:28:35am

Good morning lizards!

305 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:28:40am
306 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:29:26am

re: #300 JamesTKirk

Prairie. Mostly flat, with deep ravines cut by the rivers and streams. Cattle country. Enormous wind turbines just outside town. Barely moving--- no wind. And from Smashed in Head Buffalo Jump, you can see a hundred miles south and east.

Further east, millions of acre of wheat under cultivation. And oil and gas wells everywhere.

307 soxfan4life  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:30:47am

re: #303 rwdflynavy

I think Obama should replace Bernanke with Willie Nelson. Who's with me!!?

Why not replace Joe Biden with Willie Nelson.

308 rwdflynavy  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:31:24am

re: #307 soxfan4life

Why not replace Joe Biden with Willie Nelson.

I think you're on to something there!

309 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:31:33am

re: #307 soxfan4life

Why stop there: replace President Obama with Waylon Jennings.

310 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:31:35am

re: #303 rwdflynavy

I think Obama should replace Bernanke with Willie Nelson. Who's with me!!?

Willie can't pass a drug test. But then again, how many in D.C. can?

311 rwdflynavy  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:32:00am

re: #310 Cannadian Club Akbar

Willie can't pass a drug test. But then again, how many in D.C. can?


Plus he doesn't pay his taxes... no wait.

312 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:32:17am

re: #310 Cannadian Club Akbar

My Washington sources tell me Soros is the biggest druggie in town.

313 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:32:39am

re: #309 quickjustice

Why stop there: replace President Obama with Waylon Jennings.

I can't wait for the next State of the Union address:

"Well, looks like those Duke boys are in trouble..."

314 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:33:11am

re: #310 Cannadian Club Akbar

Willie can't pass a drug test. But then again, how many in D.C. can?

*cough cough* Err ummm... How 'bout them Yankees?

315 opnion  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:34:09am

Holder has an interesting relationship with terrorists. He was the official from the Clinton Administration who went to the prisonn where FALN terrorists were held.
He begged members of the Puerto Rican terrorist group to mouth the right words, so that they could be cut loose.

316 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:34:14am

Steroid nation.

317 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:34:16am

Another AC/DC parody (did you watch #305?)

318 windhorse  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:34:40am

New poll over at Drudge... make sure you vote!!

:)

319 opnion  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:35:15am

re: #309 quickjustice

Why stop there: replace President Obama with Waylon Jennings.

Doesn't Waylon sing for Jesus now in that big Honky Tonk in the sky?

320 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:35:45am

re: #319 opnion

Doesn't Waylon sing for Jesus now in that big Honky Tonk in the sky?

Waylon Arnold Jennings (June 15, 1937 – February 13, 2002)

321 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:35:59am

re: #315 opnion

FALN, Puerto Rican terrorist bombers and killers, had to apologize to get their pardons from Clinton. They refused, but Clinton cut them loose anyway to get Hillary elected to the Senate from NY.

322 saberry0530  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:37:07am

re: #307 soxfan4life

Why not replace Joe Biden with Willie Nelson.

Cause Willie still has more brain cells alive and functional?

323 quickjustice  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:37:23am

re: #319 opnion

True, but that way, we'd know the President was consistent in all of his political positions!/

324 opnion  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:37:42am

re: #320 JamesTKirk

Waylon Arnold Jennings (June 15, 1937 – February 13, 2002)

He's up there with Hank now.

325 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:38:37am

bbiab...

326 opnion  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:39:15am

re: #321 quickjustice

FALN, Puerto Rican terrorist bombers and killers, had to apologize to get their pardons from Clinton. They refused, but Clinton cut them loose anyway to get Hillary elected to the Senate from NY.

That's right, eight of them showed no contrition but got out of the slam anyway & Eric Holder was up to his neck in it.

327 VioletTiger  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:41:48am

re: #318 windhorse

New poll over at Drudge... make sure you vote!!

:)

Heh.
Don't know why I click those. Probably meaningless, but satisfying.

328 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:43:18am

re: #327 VioletTiger

Heh.
Don't know why I click those. Probably meaningless, but satisfying.

Internet polls are meaningless because it's impossible to get any kind of a truly representative sampling, or to prevent multiple votes; especially once the Luap Nor people show up and start stuffing the e-ballot boxes.

329 opnion  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:44:21am

re: #323 quickjustice

True, but that way, we'd know the President was consistent in all of his political positions!/

Just no pictures while he's on vacation. Obama is just so stressed from all of those Ramadan greetings.

330 windhorse  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:44:52am

re: #327 VioletTiger

I agree!

331 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:48:35am

So Charles needs some Ambien.

332 VioletTiger  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:48:41am

re: #330 windhorse

I agree!

The best line from the article:

Mr. Obama's bet was that his personal popularity would be enough to push his agenda through. Perhaps that would have been possible before the $787 billion economic stimulus package, the $410 billion omnibus bill that funds the government, the House-approved cap-and-trade bill, and so forth. But these big-ticket spending bills have helped define what the president means by "hope" and "change," and it is through this prism that the American public now views his health-care proposals.

Apparently, the Koolaide is wearing off.

333 BlueCanuck  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 5:49:11am

New thread, going to head up. Charles has been up early the past couple of days.

334 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 6:07:58am

Here we go - Feingold to Obama: Announce Withdrawal Timetable from Afghanistan

One possible scenario, a timely breakthrough in back-channel Iranian talks; whereby Obama recognizes Iran as the dominate regional power who will help us secure and stabilize Afghanistan as we withdraw our regionally destabilizing, infidel influence(or some such sheet).

**sigh** So little time...so many ways to lose.

Mornin folks.

335 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 6:11:40am

re: #16 LudwigVanQuixote

And my link to the tipping points, has just gotten it's first downding on the science boards. The deniers really hate that I keep posting science stuff at them.

Downding just for using "deniers".

336 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 6:15:40am

re: #334 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Here we go - Feingold to Obama: Announce Withdrawal Timetable from Afghanistan

One possible scenario, a timely breakthrough in back-channel Iranian talks; whereby Obama recognizes Iran as the dominate regional power who will help us secure and stabilize Afghanistan as we withdraw our regionally destabilizing, infidel influence(or some such sheet).

**sigh** So little time...so many ways to lose.

There must be fifty ways to lose in Asia
Fifth Ways to lose in Asia

Call off the attack Jack
Pull out the men, Sven
Give it all to Iran, Dan; sounds like a good plan
Hope on the plane, Dwayne
Don't need to advance plan
Just pull the cavalry, Lee
And set the jihadis free

337 MandyManners  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 6:18:35am
338 JamesTKirk  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 6:24:38am

re: #337 MandyManners

339 right_wing2  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 7:05:23am

"Obama does not want to change the U.S. political and economic system, but "in spite of that, the extreme right hates him for being African-American and fights what the president does to improve the deteriorated image of that country," Castro wrote."

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

340 right_wing2  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 7:07:27am

It's all because of Bush!
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

341 gregb  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 7:32:56am

On a completely diff subject: Punish the many for the sins of the few.

UK wants to mandate plastic pint glasses in pubs to lessen injuries from 5,500 attacks a year.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]


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