New thread's up early; but Yon's always worth it.

Ah, I read this post yesterday. After he posted this apparently his embed permission from the UK government was withdrawn. I hope he teams up with the Canadians next.

Where is everyone? It seems so quiet and dead here this morning.

ZZZzzz

Yon has brass ones and does a fantastic job. If you value his posts he needs cash badly to stay and keep reporting.

Afghanistan doesn't get much attention these days, despite it being deadlier than Iraq now. Where's the media, I'm shocked it's not front page news every day. Oh that's right, Bush isn't in office anymore.

re: #5 Ziggy

Now that my niece is there, Afganistan has all of my attention...

re: #2 BlueCanuck

Ah, I read this post yesterday. After he posted this apparently his embed permission from the UK government was withdrawn. I hope he teams up with the Canadians next.

Did the UK give a reason for that decision?

re: #5 Ziggy

Afghanistan gets a lot of play up here north of the border. Especially when we lose a soldier. Everytime it happens the left starts screaming about how we should leave. Talking with a bunch of guys awhile ago and pointed out that we have lost about the same amount of troops since we've been there, as we would in training accidents here.

Baffled was the only way to describe their expressions.

re: #7 JamesTKirk

Nope, or at least Michael isn't saying.

Meanwhile the President, C in C, says "wee wee" in public.

& From Yon's report:

Finally, Axle said, “You Yanks are great. You like to hear stories about us smashin’ the Taliban but people at home want to know how much we miss our families.” We both chuckled, and I asked, “Really? They don’t ask you about smashing the Taliban?” “That’s right,” then Axle said something like, “They only want to hear how sad we are.” Axle and I got along great because I didn’t care if he missed his family and he didn’t care if I missed mine. This part is about smashing people who would help those who smashed the World Trade Centers and blew up people in London and Bali and Jakarta and Israel and Spain and the Philippines and anywhere else they can reach. There is a crucial development and governance aspect to this war, and still a crucial smashing side. Sometimes you’ve got to swap hats for helmets. Mullah Omar is still alive, apparently in Pakistan, and he needs to be killed. Just on 20 August I heard a Taliban singing over a walkie talkie that Mullah Omar “Is our leader,” and they were celebrating shooting down a British helicopter only twelve hours before just some miles from here. There will be time to hug families later. Now is a time for fighting.

re: #3 BlueCanuck

Where is everyone? It seems so quiet and dead here this morning.

The overnight thread didn't hit four digits. Only made it a third of the way.

Usually there's more than 333 posts when I start reading the overnight thread.

(Could have something to do with the internet have random slowdowns lately. Different sites, different times, and when I'm connected at different locations...)

Oooo! This is a good one! LOTS of data!

Way to go Michael!

re: #6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Now that my niece is there, Afganistan has all of my attention...

She'll be in my prayers, as they all are. I can't properly express the gratitude I have for our volunteer soldiers who get in harms way so we we can be fat and happy. I am humbled by every one of them.

I like his comments about the "Mud Hen" (F-15E Strike Eagle). Best optics a d a good war load. Heard that about the aircraft. Also, like what he said about the French aircraft. The M2000D just doesn't have the load and systems...

re: #8 BlueCanuck

Afghanistan gets a lot of play up here north of the border. Especially when we lose a soldier. Everytime it happens the left starts screaming about how we should leave. Talking with a bunch of guys awhile ago and pointed out that we have lost about the same amount of troops since we've been there, as we would in training accidents here.

Baffled was the only way to describe their expressions.

Logic and reason have no place in a conversation with a leftists

re: #10 Ojoe

While the democrats take a piss over us and endlessly whine and Rachel Maddow tea-bag joke like 4th graders - real men fight real battles.

re: #15 Ziggy

They weren't leftists. Just average people informed by leftists. After I started throwing figures about some of our country's past battles and death rates, the expression on their faces was thoughtful.

Then there was the lady I was talking to this weekend that was surprised I played "war" games even though I used to be in the army. As well she said that video game manufacturers were over hyping war games since the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. "It's a conspiracy".

IMHO, we should be spraying Roundup on every damn poppy field we can find.

re: #17 BlueCanuck

I tell the reflexive anti-war lefties that we did not stop Hitler in the 1930s when it would have been easy. Then I say, do you know how many people we lost in WW2? then I tell them 400,000.

Sometimes they hear.

re: #18 Ward Cleaver

IMHO, we should be spraying Roundup on every damn poppy field we can find.

We tried that for years, it did not work. Now the strategy has changed to going after the dealers, transporters, and warlords. When you spray the poppies, you are just jacking with the local famers, not the Taliban.

That's US 400,000.

How many from Canada?

re: #17 BlueCanuck
I have plenty of friends who are the same. Reasonable people who are uniformed because get their news from the Sunday New York Times and an occasional Network Newscast.

re: #21 Ojoe

That's US 400,000.

How many from Canada?

45,300 from a country with a population of 11 million.

From the previous thread:

re: #334 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Here we go - Feingold to Obama: Announce Withdrawal Timetable from Afghanistan

One possible scenario, a timely breakthrough in back-channel Iranian talks; whereby Obama recognizes Iran as the dominate regional power who will help us secure and stabilize Afghanistan as we withdraw our regionally destabilizing, infidel influence(or some such sheet).

**sigh** So little time...so many ways to lose.

There must be fifty ways to lose in Asia
Fifth Ways to lose in Asia

Call off the attack Jack
Pull out the men, Sven
Give it all to Iran, Dan; sounds like a good plan
Hope on the plane, Dwayne
Don't need to advance plan
Just pull the cavalry, Lee
And set the jihadis free

re: #23 BlueCanuck

Oh and as percentage wise, .4% of population of 1939, and the Americans was .32% of population. :)

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Instapundit noted the following email from Michael Yon yesterday:

MICHAEL YON EMAILS: “The British Ministry of Defence canceled my embed after today’s dispatch. Please read Bad Medicine.”

Anyone think that this might have something to do with some of Yon's observations about British military health care and their need to rely on US medical tech to save lives of British soldiers in theater?

Mullen Says Afghan Security Situation ‘Serious,’ Getting Worse

Senate Democrat Urges Timetable for U.S. Exit From Afghanistan

WWPWWD?

/what will President Wee Wee do?

re: #22 Ziggy

I have plenty of friends who are the same. Reasonable people who are uniformed because get their news from the Sunday New York Times and an occasional Network Newscast.

People who still live in their mommy's basement and have yet to learn the truth of the real world...

Good morning, Lizards!

Michael Yon is a hero and a rebuke to every candy-ass faux journalist.

re: #26 lawhawk

That didn't occur to me, but it seems plausible. I was thinking it was more likely due to his detailed descriptions of their location, which is "classified" but well-known to all the locals, according to MY.

re: #27 Killian Bundy

Mullen Says Afghan Security Situation ‘Serious,’ Getting Worse

Senate Democrat Urges Timetable for U.S. Exit From Afghanistan

WWPWWD?

/what will President Wee Wee do?

A couple problems there. If McChrystal asks for the troops then his request should be debated by the Joint Chiefs and maybe the National Security Adviser, not Congress and good luck with 0 making a decision on anything, let alone something fluid like war.

re: #27 Killian Bundy

Mullen Says Afghan Security Situation ‘Serious,’ Getting Worse

Senate Democrat Urges Timetable for U.S. Exit From Afghanistan

WWPWWD?

/what will President Wee Wee do?

But I thought Afghanistan was the "good" war and Iraq was the "bad" one. I need to keep up on the liberal talking points...

re: #6 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Be sure you tell your niece she has a lot of lizards wishing her well.

re: #25 BlueCanuck

Oh and as percentage wise, .4% of population of 1939, and the Americans was .32% of population. :)

Which commander would you rather follow into battle?

"Boys, this is going to be a tough, hard fight. We know before the shooting starts that you are going to be decimated in this encounter."

or

"Boys, I know that you are worried about the upcoming battle. You should know, however, that we estimate that only ten percent of you will be lost. I pray for the safety of each and every one of you."

re: #30 Danny

Yon goes out of his way to protect the identities and nature of missions he's embedded with; his life is in the hands of the soldiers he's accompanying and he's too professional not to understand that inalienable fact. He could have inadvertently given away details of the mission that he accompanied, but I think it may have been the earlier report detailing the lengths to which the US forces saved the lives of a British soldier severely injured and that the Brits don't have that kind of ability.

re: #18 Ward Cleaver

As I've said elsewhere, Afghanistan is a natural for cultivating cotton, but the global cotton cartel doesn't want the competition. So poppies it is.

What a great article.

re: #35 lawhawk

Very possible. Curious to know why myself.

re: #26 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Instapundit noted the following email from Michael Yon yesterday:

Anyone think that this might have something to do with some of Yon's observations about British military health care and their need to rely on US medical tech to save lives of British soldiers in theater?

It could be that or the heat they are catching because he has also brought up the lack of air transport and helicopters.

A dog handler recently told me he was urinating when an Afghan soldier tried to grab his willy.

I thought teh gayz were all gone from Muslim countries!

re: #40 Mad Al-Jaffee

I thought teh gayz were all gone from Muslim countries!

GAZE

re: #29 SurferDoc

Hey doc! The White House is inviting physicians to submit questions about health care reform here:

The White House is holding a conference call for physicians on health insurance reform. Please see the call information below.

Tuesday, 8/25/09, 8:30 PM EST

Participant Call In Number: [blocked]

Email questions in advance to public@who.eop.gov

Why not send in some of LGF's questions about health care reform?

re: #29 SurferDoc

Good morning, Lizards!

Michael Yon is a hero and a rebuke to every candy-ass faux journalist.

Just like Dan Rather.
/

Yon is terrific. I support our troops wherever they are deployed, but wonder whether Afghanistan is really susceptible to long-term conventional military action?

Afghanistan is the "Good" war to Obama. He used the Iraq as a war of choice meme to beat up on Bush. BHO kept saying that Iraq was a distraction from Afghanistan, the real war.
OK, now he owns it & things are just heating up more.He ran as some kind of omnipotent being with the ultimate solution.
Well quit holding back dude, step up, as soon as your $50,000 week vacation is over.

re: #42 quickjustice

Hey doc! The White House is inviting physicians to submit questions about health care reform here:

The White House is holding a conference call for physicians on health insurance reform. Please see the call information below.

Tuesday, 8/25/09, 8:30 PM EST

Participant Call In Number: [blocked]

Email questions in advance to public@who.eop.gov

Why not send in some of LGF's questions about health care reform?

That is a terrific idea. Thanks. I have a few of my own I would like to see answered.

If there was any justice in the world of journalism, Yon would be winning Pulitzers.

re: #45 opnion

Afghanistan is the "Good" war to Obama. He used the Iraq as a war of choice meme to beat up on Bush. BHO kept saying that Iraq was a distraction from Afghanistan, the real war.
OK, now he owns it & things are just heating up more.He ran as some kind of omnipotent being with the ultimate solution.
Well quit holding back dude, step up, as soon as your $50,000 week vacation is over.

Stepping up is not what this guy does. Sidestep and bullshit is more like it.

re: #31 soxfan4life

Contrary to the MSM meme, Iraq & Afghanistan are not two different wars, they are 2 fronts of the same war. The same fighters, on both sides, move between the two fronts. A top AQ commander, Sheikh Issa al Masrir, recently moved from Pakistan to Syria where he now directs AQ in Iraq.

We may not like his decisions, but Obama is not indecisive. He already decided to keep Gates as Sec Def and Petraeus at Central Command. He must have approved the firing of General David McKiernan and his replacement with Stanley McChrystal.

The problem comes down to money & troops. To send more troops to Afghanistan will mean pulling more troops out of Iraq. This at a time when AQ in Iraq is ramping up their bombing campaign and Iran is looking for a new opening.

If Obama listens to his generals (and not his political advisers) he might find the balance to finesse these two fronts. If he listens to his political advisers he risks letting both fronts slide into chaos.

When is the last time Obama even mentioned Afghanistan?

re: #34 razorbacker

The first one. :)

/as a soldier, I hated when the orficers lied to us.

re: #35 lawhawk

I am reminded of the story of the WWII German commander who is supposed to have said that he knew that the Allies were going to eventually win the war when they inspected captured mail and discovered shipments of birthday cakes sent to soldiers at the front.

His point was that the German Army could not hope to defeat an enemy with so many resources that they could afford to spend time and treasure to deliver cake to common soldiers.

If, and I hope never to find out for sure, America ever finds itself in another 'all-or-nothing' struggle we will rue the enthusiastic dismantling of our industrial base.

re: #32 MikeAlv77

But I thought Afghanistan was the "good" war and Iraq was the "bad" one. I need to keep up on the liberal talking points...

During the election, I recall Obama saying something like we should have been concentrating on Afganistan all along.
I also find it interesting that the war has dropped from much of the news now that O is pres.
Even Code Pink has gone silent (Thankfully).

re: #48 SurferDoc

Stepping up is not what this guy does. Sidestep and bullshit is more like it.

He is really an overrated mediocrity. To judge at least to date, this is a failed presidency.

re: #53 VioletTiger

Have they gone silent, or has the MSM just taken them out of the national spotlight because any protest of 0bama's policies is verboten.

re: #53 VioletTiger

Obama relies on the "memory hole" as much as anyone I have ever seen.

Remember Credit Card legislation? What happened?

when do we invade Pockistan?

re: #56 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When I think of 0bama, memory hole isn't the type of hole that comes to mind first.

re: #55 soxfan4life

Have they gone silent, or has the MSM just taken them out of the national spotlight because any protest of 0bama's policies is verboten.

Good point. We know Cindy is out there, but haven't seen her face on the news.

re: #49 Kenneth

He faces a situation where his fellow Democrats are unwilling to expand the size of the military, instead opting to let the conflict in Iraq wind down and not reinforcing forces in Afghanistan to the extent needed. The Democrats are hoping to pursue an aggressive domestic agenda that calls for massive new spending, all while trying to keep spending on the military as limited as possible.

It's one of those few (only!) situations where Obama is far to the right of his fellow Democrats in Congress and where he needs support from the GOP to keep the course.

Good morning y'all - from a pleasant (71 degrees, going up to 88 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
Mom and I are both doing well and I hope you all are too!

re: #54 opnion

He is really an overrated mediocrity. To judge at least to date, this is a failed presidency.

And so says 91% of Drudge readers. So far.

re: #56 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Obama relies on the "memory hole" as much as anyone I have ever seen.

Remember Credit Card legislation? What happened?

I guess its kinda hard for him to push cc legislation when he is spending billions of dollars that we don't have. Hypocritical, though that's never stopped him before.

I hope Michael Yon can embed with another unit, British or American.

re: #59 VioletTiger

Good point. We know Cindy is out there, but haven't seen her face on the news.

Once campaigns start for House and Senate seats for 2010 Cindy and Code Pink should be making a big comeback on our TV screens.

re: #59 VioletTiger

Good point. We know Cindy is out there, but haven't seen her face on the news.

She's still out there, yamering away. Just do a blog search on her name and you should be able to find out what her latest rant is.

Good morning realwest. Glad to hear that you two are doing good.

re: #61 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a pleasant (71 degrees, going up to 88 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
Mom and I are both doing well and I hope you all are too!

Morning real.
Looks like our undead troll finally went the way of all trolls.

re: #64 marwan's daughter

I am rooting for a Canadian embed. I would love to see our boys get his treatment. It would also show us how they are doing their job over there as well which I think more people need to see.

re: #18 Ward Cleaver

IMHO, we should be spraying Roundup on every damn poppy field we can find.

We aren't doing it because?...

re: #68 VioletTiger

Who's that?

re: #70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We aren't doing it because?...

environmental concerns...

This just in: The Obama Administration sharply increases national deficit (but hey, they reduce their spending this year by $250 billion because they don't expect to have to bail out more financial companies).

Oh, and in another surprise - the cash for clunkers program will likely sabotage sales for the fourth quarter and next year, a shift in sales that I've been warning about ever since this mess became less than operable last month (and which had been a nightmare for dealers to the end when the DOT had to extend the deadline because the online system kept crashing to the very end).

re: #72 redc1c4

Like?...

re: #70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We aren't doing it because?...

Hurts the local farmers not the Taliban. Win Hearts and Minds.

re: #68 VioletTiger

Morning real.
Looks like our undead troll finally went the way of all trolls.

Zombie was a troll?

re: #28 JamesTKirk
That's funny. Growing up is a bitch.

re: #74 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Like?...

chemicals are bad, didn't you get the memo?

re: #75 soxfan4life

Hurts the local farmers not the Taliban. Win Hearts and Minds.

Napalm is probably cheaper than RoundUp anyway. That crap is expensive!

re: #70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

We aren't doing it because?...

Because we're trying to coopt the locals who need the money from selling those poppies to support themselves and to keep the Taliban at bay, even though the Taliban uses those sales to fund their terror ops. There's no easy way to break the cycle, and we don't have the forces necessary to enforce a no tolerance policy on poppy production. It's also important to note that the Islamists in the Taliban had themselves attempted to stop poppy production but failed.

I would love to see Sheehan and the woman with the "Fuck you John Mackey" YouTube video in a steel cage match.

re: #81 Mad Al-Jaffee

Celebrity Deathmatch - good fight. Good night.

re: #72 redc1c4

environmental concerns...

Exactly. If you use enough herbicide to take out the poppy crops the farmers won't be able to grow anything. What we need is to find a better cash crop that will assist them.

re: #80 lawhawk

Because we're trying to coopt the locals who need the money from selling those poppies to support themselves and to keep the Taliban at bay, even though the Taliban uses those sales to fund their terror ops. There's no easy way to break the cycle, and we don't have the forces necessary to enforce a no tolerance policy on poppy production. It's also important to note that the Islamists in the Taliban had themselves attempted to stop poppy production but failed.

maybe we could get them to raise corn, and become pig farmers?

re: #61 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a pleasant (71 degrees, going up to 88 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
Mom and I are both doing well and I hope you all are too!

Good morning, {real} & {mom} !
Glad you're both doing well. Beautiful day here in the deep south. We've been having some cool mornings.

re: #81 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'll make popcorn AND bring beer!!

re: #83 BlueCanuck

Exactly. If you use enough herbicide to take out the poppy crops the farmers won't be able to grow anything. What we need is to find a better cash crop that will assist them.

How about Marijuana?

re: #73 lawhawk

/We don't need real supply and demand. We need controlled, supplemented, unsustainable fake supply and demand.

*pop*.

re: #83 BlueCanuck

Exactly. If you use enough herbicide to take out the poppy crops the farmers won't be able to grow anything. What we need is to find a better cash crop that will assist them.

How about arugula?

re: #83 BlueCanuck

Exactly. If you use enough herbicide to take out the poppy crops the farmers won't be able to grow anything. What we need is to find a better cash crop that will assist them.

here i am being a wise a55, and you have to go get all serious on me...

no wonder i don't post much anymore. %-P

re: #87 Ziggy

How about Marijuana?

Hemp maybe? It would get all the old and new hippies on board for such an undertaking. Have you seen the price of hemp clothing and other products?

What undead troll?
/enquiring minds...

re: #90 redc1c4

I'm sorry. :)

/that's what happens when I miss the silly hour by sleeping.

re: #87 Ziggy

How about Marijuana?

a bowl a day is all we ask...

re: #60 lawhawk Good morning lawhawk! That's one of the reasons McChrystal was put in charge.
He's been Special Forces his entire time in the military (well, when with active troops and not the War College) and SF are used to - indeed trained - to do more with less. I think he was an outstanding appointment.
McChrystal is the real deal and if HE says he needs more troops, HE means more combat troops - so he can carry the fight to Al-Q and the Taliban. I remember reading an earlier piece from the wonderful Michael Yon about how NATO forces were, for the most part, reactive - would fight when attacked or drawn in to defend strategic/tactical places. McChrystal wants to get out after them, using as few men as possible and even then President Obama can't quite bring himself the additonal 15-20 thousand troops that McChrystal has asked for.
And that's a damn shame - McChrystal doesn't ask for more troops to help rebuild Afghanistan, or really to even train the ANA - he just wants more to go out after the bad guys and kill 'em.

re: #87 Ziggy

How about Marijuana?

Hey. We don't need to create any competition for Kentucky. That's our main cash crop. What about cashews? I love them.

re: #71 soxfan4life

Who's that?

re: #76 redc1c4

Zombie was a troll?

Check the bottom of the Glenn Beck and Snowleopard threads. It was blocked, but kept posting.

OMG, are those British soldiers holed up and using a civilian house?

And look! It's worse than I thought! A BULLDOZER!!!

Laxle Kedian Harris is JACKED!

re: #87 Ziggy

How about Marijuana?

Your nic should be Zig Zag!

re: #67 BlueCanuck
Hey thanks Blue! How are y'all doing today?

How about some hints on the dead troll?

re: #94 redc1c4

a bowl a day is all we ask...

In college we thought it was our patriotic duty to smoke Afghani gold hash, because we were funding the fight against the soviets. That's what we told ourselves anyway.

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Your nic should be Zig Zag!

Upding for my first laugh of the day.

re: #68 VioletTiger
Hey {VioletTiger} they damn well should have, I mean I shot the mofos a zillion times - all direct hits,
natch (!) I don't think they'll be back!

re: #90 redc1c4

If the good guys don't post the a-holes get a free ride.

re: #101 KenJen

How about some hints on the dead troll?

Yeah, we're too lazy to go look!

Why not use the the Nuremberg trials as a guide...for trying our home-grown international law and constitutional criminals? I can see little difference between the Nazis and these bastards.

snip

I don't want to see Cheney locked up. As a person who also has a pacemaker, I want to see the battery in Cheney's pacemaker removed. That's good enough for me.

snip

War crimes were committed by George W. ("We don't torture!") Bush, Dick (dictator) Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, John (Torture isn't torture so it is legal.) Yoo, George ("Medal of Freedom") Tenet, Alberto ("I don't recall.") Gonzales, John (Jesus Christ is my savior.) Ashcroft, David Addington, et. al. Execute quickly!

Must be from those thousands of crazy Gateway Pundit people.

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

re: #95 realwest

The Canadian problem is lack of troops. One reason we are looking at a withdrawl in the next year or so is so we can recuperate our troops physical and mental exhaustion. As well build up our available resources and equipment. Our military has been small for decades, underfunded, under equipped, and under appreciated.

re: #91 BlueCanuck

Hemp maybe? It would get all the old and new hippies on board for such an undertaking. Have you seen the price of hemp clothing and other products?

No I haven't, I imagine it to be very itchy.

re: #83 BlueCanuck

Exactly. If you use enough herbicide to take out the poppy crops the farmers won't be able to grow anything. What we need is to find a better cash crop that will assist them.

Why don't we stop buying opium from Pakistan and start buying it from Afghanistan?

We do buy opium for medicine.

re: #95 realwest

That's been a big problem with the ISAF in Afghanistan. Their political leadership has demanded that they hold territory and not engage in offensive operations where they might be exposed to more casualties - but which would also result in killing more bad guys than allowing themselves to be turned into target practice by Taliban who slip in and out on a regular basis.

You're absolutely right that McChrystal wants to take the fight to the Taliban, and needs forces to act as an anvil to the hammer of the special forces - using classic fighting techniques to deal with the threat with the least number of troops.

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That would have been a good one some years back.

re: #109 Ziggy

No I haven't, I imagine it to be very itchy.

All I know about it is that Woody Harrelson is a big promoter of it and owns an interest in some company that makes the clothing.

re: #52 razorbacker

His point was that the German Army could not hope to defeat an enemy with so many resources that they could afford to spend time and treasure to deliver cake to common soldiers.

In the Elmore Leonard book I just read, these German spies in Detroit in 1944 were quietly pulling cash and storing up resources and IOU's for the inevitable defeat of Germany. They were watching a B-24 bomber roll off the lines at Willow Run every hour. Every hour.

re: #73 lawhawk
"the cash for clunkers program will likely sabotage sales for the fourth quarter and next year" NO?! You're kidding, right?
Obama's a master when it comes to the economy (just ask him!) and he'd never do anything quite so stupid.
BTW - do y'all have any idea how much of the Stimulus Bill remains locked up in D.C.'s vaults to try to help the hapless Dem's win in 2010?

re: #83 BlueCanuck

Exactly. If you use enough herbicide to take out the poppy crops the farmers won't be able to grow anything. What we need is to find a better cash crop that will assist them.

Let them grow arugula.
/Obama

re: #105 SurferDoc

If the good guys don't post the a-holes get a free ride.

stuck in the middle with you.

/are those your pants hanging off the window frame? %-)

re: #85 redstateredneck
Hi {red} it surely is a beautiful day here in the Southland!
How are you today?

re: #115 realwest

"the cash for clunkers program will likely sabotage sales for the fourth quarter and next year" NO?! You're kidding, right?
Obama's a master when it comes to the economy (just ask him!) and he'd never do anything quite so stupid.
BTW - do y'all have any idea how much of the Stimulus Bill remains locked up in D.C.'s vaults to try to help the hapless Dem's win in 2010?

Hmmm., this sounds FISHY. You must be reported to flag@whitehouse.gov.

re: #106 redstateredneck

Yeah, we're too lazy to go look!

It was blocked, but somehow was still managing to post.

re: #94 redc1c4

a bowl a day is all we ask...

Speaketh for thine own self y'all!

re: #96 KenJen

Hey. We don't need to create any competition for Kentucky. That's our main cash crop. What about cashews? I love them.

I've never actually checked to see where the journalists get their numbers, but I've read that pot is one of the main cash crops in every state in which I have lived.

Coincidence. I swear. Nothing but coincidence.

I do have a deep and abiding appreciation of farmers, though.

re: #120 VioletTiger

It was blocked, but somehow was still managing to post.

How ???

re: #120 VioletTiger

It was blocked, but somehow was still managing to post.

WHO? Please.

re: #118 realwest

Hi {red} it surely is a beautiful day here in the Southland!
How are you today?

grumpy: same as always...

gotta finish my toast and haul my sorry butt off to school. quiz day and the end to yet another module.

This just seems wrong.

Crypt above Marilyn Monroe sold for 4.6 Million

Somebody wanted to lay on top of Marilyn really bad to pay that kind of money.

re: #126 redstateredneck

This just seems wrong.

Crypt above Marilyn Monroe sold for 4.6 Million

Somebody wanted to lay on top of Marilyn really bad to pay that kind of money.

maybe they're planning on drilling down... %-)

Found the troll. Never heard of it. Has Charles figured out how it was able to keep posting?

re: #117 redc1c4

Damn! Your eyesight is too good.

re: #118 realwest

Hi {red} it surely is a beautiful day here in the Southland!
How are you today?

I am as fine as frog's hair. mrhightechredneck is flying up to Arkansas today with his instructor. This will be the longest flight he's done. Hope the weather stays good for them!

re: #108 BlueCanuck
All of that's true, but not under-appreciated by Americans who know what's really going on.
Wish Harper had come along a decade sooner.

re: #129 SurferDoc

Damn! Your eyesight is too good.

whereas my attitude is just bad and i gots ta get getting to school.

hasta, y'all...

L8r!

re: #127 redc1c4

maybe they're planning on drilling down... %-)

Ted Kennedy bought it./

re: #129 SurferDoc

Damn! Your eyesight is too good.

"Damn your eyes."

-- Young Frankenstein

Morning Lizards.

re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar

WHO? Please.

Try this.

re: #122 razorbacker

I read a story yesterday that pot farmers in teh Vineyard harvested their crop early because of 0's visit. No, not to sell to him! All of the helicopters freaked them out and they didn't want to get busted.

re: #119 opnion

Hmmm., this sounds FISHY. You must be reported to flag@whitehouse.gov.

What, again?!?

re: #130 redstateredneck

I am as fine as frog's hair. mrhightechredneck is flying up to Arkansas today with his instructor. This will be the longest flight he's done. Hope the weather stays good for them!

Tell him to waggle the wings when he overflys northwest Arkansas.

re: #134 midwestgak

Hey, {gak}

re: #123 Danny

How ???

I made some guesses in one of those threads. I think there was either a loophole or a bug allowing a banned user to still be logged in; perhaps the troll was able to restore the logged in cookie or maybe there was a bug.
I hope Charles has fixed the code that allowed it.

re: #138 razorbacker

Tell him to waggle the wings when he overflys northwest Arkansas.

He's landing at Flippin.

re: #132 redc1c4

whereas my attitude is just bad and i gots ta get getting to school.

hasta, y'all...

L8r!

Good luck!

re: #113 redstateredneck
I thought I read sometime ago that farmers in the colonial era were required to put a certain acreage aside for hemp because it was so integral to life at that time.

re: #122 razorbacker

I've never actually checked to see where the journalists get their numbers, but I've read that pot is one of the main cash crops in every state in which I have lived.

Coincidence. I swear. Nothing but coincidence.

I do have a deep and abiding appreciation of farmers, though.

Well y'all ought to be moving down here soon - with the slow death of the Tobacco industry, I've heard that some locals have taken to growing a new cash crop - and boy, they do know how to grow cash crops that you smoke!

re: #139 redstateredneck

Hey, {gak}

Morning {red}!

re: #126 redstateredneck

This just seems wrong.

Crypt above Marilyn Monroe sold for 4.6 Million

Somebody wanted to lay on top of Marilyn really bad to pay that kind of money.

Makes me wonder where M Jackson's remains will end up. Maybe they'll ship what's left of him to the UK and entomb him with Diana.

re: #143 Ziggy

Hemp was used for many things in that time. The main one was for rope. And a lot of rope was needed for all sailing ships as well as for farm life.

re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar Some asshat nicnamed LA Conservative.

re: #143 Ziggy

I thought I read sometime ago that farmers in the colonial era were required to put a certain acreage aside for hemp because it was so integral to life at that time.

Hmmm, you're right according to this:

Presidents Washington and Jefferson both grew hemp. Americans were legally bound to grow hemp during the Colonial Era and Early Republic. The federal government subsidized hemp during the Second World War and US farmers grew about a million acres of hemp as part of that program.

re: #59 VioletTiger

Good point. We know Cindy is out there, but haven't seen her face on the news.

She was here in Dallas a couple of months ago, picketing at the corner of Meaders Lane and Daria Drive, around the corner from W's house. His neighbors were counter-protesting Cindy and her band of loons. Now the gate has finally gone up, closing off Daria Drive, and Daria Place (W's street).

re: #136 Mad Al-Jaffee

I read a story yesterday that pot farmers in teh Vineyard harvested their crop early because of 0's visit. No, not to sell to him! All of the helicopters freaked them out and they didn't want to get busted.

Our local sheriff has pulled a modern-day record amount of pot for destruction.

Have not been actually catching growers, understand. The weather has been so good this year that the wild and/or volunteer pot has had enough rain to make it through the summer.

So landowers have been calling to report pot growing along ditches, creekbanks, around camping areas, etc.

re: #150 Ward Cleaver

That name (Daria) always reminds me of Beavis & Butthead.

re: #149 redstateredneck

Hemp saved George Herbert Bush's life, dude.

re: #134 midwestgak

"Damn your eyes."

-- Young Frankenstein

Morning Lizards.

Too late.

re: #126 redstateredneck
That IS SO wrong!
Can't believe I got outbid, damnit!

Hempstead, Long Island.

re: #144 realwest

Well y'all ought to be moving down here soon - with the slow death of the Tobacco industry, I've heard that some locals have taken to growing a new cash crop - and boy, they do know how to grow cash crops that you smoke!

My BIL is involved in a switchgrass refinery at the U of Tennessee. Supposed to give the tobacco farmers a new crop to grow.

re: #141 redstateredneck

He's landing at Flippin.

Missed me that 'that' much.

Maybe he can come home with a new bass boat? Ranger can use the money.

re: #151 razorbacker

7 or 8 years ago I would be asking you where you live and heading down there with a shovel, gardening gloves and some big plastic bags. :)

re: #146 Mad Al-Jaffee

Makes me wonder where M Jackson's remains will end up. Maybe they'll ship what's left of him to the UK and entomb him with Diana.

Come to think of it, did they ever settle on burying James Brown? Seems like there was a big custody fight over his remains.

re: #134 midwestgak

Too late!

re: #146 Mad Al-Jaffee

Makes me wonder where M Jackson's remains will end up. Maybe they'll ship what's left of him to the UK and entomb him with Diana.

Do you think future generations will believe MJ's life story? i.e. He was married to Brook Shields. Hard to believe it actually happened.

re: #158 razorbacker

Missed me that 'that' much.

Maybe he can come home with a new bass boat? Ranger can use the money.

Last time I was up there their parking lot was looking like a ghost town.

re: #130 redstateredneck
Well if y'all hadn't bought mrhightechredneck one of those F-15 Eagles that we've taken out of service, I'm sure he'd have an easier time flying it!
OTOH, he'll be there about...NOW!
LOL!

re: #115 realwest

"the cash for clunkers program will likely sabotage sales for the fourth quarter and next year" NO?! You're kidding, right?
Obama's a master when it comes to the economy (just ask him!) and he'd never do anything quite so stupid.
BTW - do y'all have any idea how much of the Stimulus Bill remains locked up in D.C.'s vaults to try to help the hapless Dem's win in 2010?

The dealers are hoping they'll get their C4C money back from the govt., but I'll bet a lot of them don't. They've got until sometime today to get all the paperwork in. Even the ones that get their money back will still lose money, since they've had to pay interest on all the money they've fronted to customers, waiting for their reimbursement. The whole thing has a been a big freaking disaster.

re: #146 Mad Al-Jaffee

Makes me wonder where M Jackson's remains will end up. Maybe they'll ship what's left of him to the UK and entomb him with Diana.

Maybe the Elephant Man's estate will buy Michael Jackson's skeleton.

re: #153 Ben Hur

Hemp saved George Herbert Bush's life, dude.

the last time I brought up hemp, I got laughed off the board...it's a money maker

PA says they'll declare a state in 2 years
So if they are a state, will Israel be able to hold them responsible for attacks?
Don't bother to answer.

re: #162 midwestgak

Do you think future generations will believe MJ's life story? i.e. He was married to Brook Shields. Hard to believe it actually happened.

They just dated, didn't they? He married Lisa Marie Presley.

re: #134 midwestgak
Hey good morning {gak} How are you today?!

re: #167 albusteve

the last time I brought up hemp, I got laughed off the board...it's a money maker

And it will save trees!

(Hemp doesn't get you high.)

Terrorists, threats and children.

In the Second World War, the people of London lived under the direct and manifest threats to the lives of their children, in the form of nightly bombing raids by the Luftwafe. In due course, the Allies returned that threat to the people of Germany with the raids of Bomber Command over the cities of Germany. This was the horrible reality of the total war brought on by Hitler. The threats were clear: you must surrender or you and your children will face destruction. The cost of starting a world war was that the war would be brought home to you.

Modern terrorism has changed that face of war. Terrorists, relying on stateless anonymity threaten and attack civilians secure in the belief they themselves are safe from retaliation by hiding among their own civilian population. When Al Qaeda issued their manifesto in the mid-90's, they directly threatened the countries of the West with terrorist attacks, in which civilians, including children, were considered fair game.

This was nothing new in the ideology of Islamic extremism. Israelis have lived under the same threats since 1948, and even before. The terrorist Samir Kuntar, recently released from Israeli prison to a heroes welcome by Hezbollah, had been convicted of killing Israeli civilians, including a child. Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, convicted of involvement in the Lockerbie bombing, in which several children were murdered, was also released from a Scottish prison to a heroes welcome in Libya. And although it should scarcely need repeating, the terrorists of September 11 murdered several children in those horrific attacks. The use of human shields, including children is commonplace among these terrorists who wield guns from hospitals & schools when confronted by Western regular troops.

The common theme running through all these incidents, and hundred of other similar attacks, is this:

- Islamic extremists openly threaten to kill innocent civilians, including children.
- The threats are carried out in brutal attacks in which thousands of innocent civilians, including children have been murdered.
- The perpetrators of these attacks are hailed as heroes by their side.
- Yet more threats are made, and carried out.

One of the many consequences of this bloody history is that today there is not a man, woman or child of sentient age, anywhere in the world, who is not aware of the daily threat of Islamic terrorists to murder children. We live under this threat today as part of our global culture. Some people may pretend the threat does not exist, but the strident arguments they make to the contrary only serve to reinforce the fact that, denials to the contrary, they too know of the threat to our children.

Yesterday, the news was leaked from the Justice Department that CIA interrogators had "threatened the lives of a terrorist's children". The language in that calculated leak was vague, perhaps deliberately so. It is not clear whether threats which were alleged to have been made were told to the children, or to the terrorist. One has to stop and think, check some news stories, search the internet for confirmation before the facts emerge from the obfuscation. The terrorist in question was Khalid Sheik Mohammad, mastermind of the 9-11 attacks. The CIA did not have custody of his children. The CIA interrogator could not have told the threat he is alleged to have made, to the children. In fact, it was a lie he told to the terrorist, KSM, only. Yet many people assume the leak means that CIA agents were going about directly threatening children. That is a lie. The CIA threatened the terrorists, not their children.

We can speculate as to why the Justice Department leaked the story and in the vague wording they chose to use. Obama, with his legislative agenda stalled and his numbers slipping in the polls, is in serious need of political distraction right now. What better detraction than another round of Bush-bashing. This is read meat to his base.

re: #137 realwest

What, again?!?

You're very close to a reeducation camp mister. How are you tioday?

re: #168 Kosh's Shadow

PA says they'll declare a state in 2 years
So if they are a state, will Israel be able to hold them responsible for attacks?
Don't bother to answer.

When I first read that I was thinking... pennsylvania is going to be a state. I know they call it a commonwealth but WTF?!?! (Since I live in PA...)

Need more chocolate... breakfast of champions...

re: #154 JamesTKirk

Too late.

re: #161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Too late!

Anyone else?

re: #164 realwest

Well if y'all hadn't bought mrhightechredneck one of those F-15 Eagles that we've taken out of service, I'm sure he'd have an easier time flying it!
OTOH, he'll be there about...NOW!
LOL!

His cousin's son in law flew the F-15 Eagle and had the coolest video of bombing missions that they made. They did a good job on it and had the Top Gun theme music playing.

re: #144 realwest

Well y'all ought to be moving down here soon - with the slow death of the Tobacco industry, I've heard that some locals have taken to growing a new cash crop - and boy, they do know how to grow cash crops that you smoke!

Google a book entitled "When Money Grew on Trees".

The author tells the story of pot farming in Arkansas during the heyday of the 70s.

Fellow came to a bad end. Killed himself in a Wal-Mart a little while back.

I was up here then, too. The book brought back memories of people and places that I knew in my wild youth. He was spot on in the telling, though individuals chaffed at the airing of dirty laundry.

re: #168 Kosh's Shadow

PA says they'll declare a state in 2 years
So if they are a state, will Israel be able to hold them responsible for attacks?
Don't bother to answer.

NOW they decide it might be a good idea to build "state" institutions.

Funny how the Jews did that 80 years before the establishment of the state.

re: #175 midwestgak

Anyone else?

Oh, didn't see that. Ben?

FIRST!

re: #162 midwestgak

Do you think future generations will believe MJ's life story? i.e. He was married to Brook Shields. Hard to believe it actually happened.

Of course they'll believe it! And by then he'll probably be some kind of diety, worshipped by all of Idiocracy.

re: #153 Ben Hur

Hemp saved George Herbert Bush's life, dude.

Hey Ben - how's that?

re: #179 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oh, didn't see that. KIRK?

FIRST!

OOPS.

re: #169 redstateredneck

They just dated, didn't they? He married Lisa Marie Presley.

I stand corrected. Thanks.

Yet another reason to demand that Congress read the damn bills they write: a provision in the health care bill would create strict liability for errors in tax reporting.

In other words, if you make an honest mistake in calculating your taxes, you're going to be hit with a penalty, no matter what.

It's a revenue enhancer - and it screws taxpayers who have to deal with the byzantine tax code or have preparers who can't figure out what the heck the IRC says.

re: #50 KenJen

When is the last time Obama even mentioned Afghanistan?

Last week.

PHOENIX -- President Barack Obama told military service members Monday that the war in Afghanistan was a "war of necessity" and that the U.S. would adhere to its timetable to withdraw troops from Iraq by the end of 2011.

"By moving forward in Iraq, we're able to refocus on the war against al Qaeda and its extremist allies in Afghanistan and Pakistan," Mr. Obama told 5,500 members, families and guests of the Veterans of Foreign Wars at their annual convention here. "That is why I announced a new, comprehensive strategy in March," the president told the welcoming but subdued crowd.

re: #181 realwest

Hey Ben - how's that?

His WWII parachute was made out of Hemp.

re: #172 Kenneth

Did you write that? It's pretty good.

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re: #172 Kenneth

Obama, with his legislative agenda stalled and his numbers slipping in the polls, is in serious need of political distraction right now. What better detraction than another round of Bush-bashing. This is read meat to his base.

Unfortunately, by restricting our interrogation techniques, the distraction will end up being one or more terrorist attacks.

re: #183 midwestgak

I stand corrected. Thanks.

Still weird, though.

re: #170 realwest

Hey good morning {gak} How are you today?!

{real}!!! I'm doing very well. Trying to decide what to make for breakfast. Getting hungry.

re: #159 Mad Al-Jaffee

7 or 8 years ago I would be asking you where you live and heading down there with a shovel, gardening gloves and some big plastic bags. :)

Another point. The National Guard makes available the photos that they take while overflying the area. Problem is, the county hasn't the money to pay folks to sit down and pore over the photos and determine where the photographed pot is growing.

re: #180 Mad Al-Jaffee

Of course they'll believe it! And by then he'll probably be some kind of diety, worshipped by all of Idiocracy.

He already is, or did you miss the hordes of his adherents surrounding the courthouse when he was on trial?

re: #178 Ben Hur

NOW they decide it might be a good idea to build "state" institutions.

Funny how the Jews did that 80 years before the establishment of the state.

But their "state" institutions will still have the goal as the elimination of Israel.
Watch the UN replace Israel with Palestine. If so, I hope whoever is president at the time has the balls to kick the UN out of the US.

re: #165 Ward Cleaver
Hi Ward - hope all is well in the Cleaver household today! "The whole thing has a been a big freaking disaster."
Now just waitaminute there bub, I'd heard it was one of the greatest economic accomplishments of Obama's administration!
The MSM wouldn't lie about something like that, would they?

re: #189 Kosh's Shadow

Unfortunately, by restricting our interrogation techniques, the distraction will end up being one or more terrorist attacks.

We might as well not even have a fricken CIA with the restrictions they will have. If they do their job, they'll be sued. Insanity.

re: #193 JamesTKirk

He already is, or did you miss the hordes of his adherents surrounding the courthouse when he was on trial?

I guess you're right. I tried to avoid the circus media coverage as much as I could.

re: #169 redstateredneck
Yep, and ole Elvis has been bitch smacking MJ around since he passed (MJ, that is) for marrying her!

re: #195 realwest

Hi Ward - hope all is well in the Cleaver household today! "The whole thing has a been a big freaking disaster."
Now just waitaminute there bub, I'd heard it was one of the greatest economic accomplishments of Obama's administration!
The MSM wouldn't lie about something like that, would they?

Well, it kind of is one of the greatest accomplishments of the Obama administration. Still a disaster, but one of the greatest...

re: #163 redstateredneck

Last time I was up there their parking lot was looking like a ghost town.

Those Ranger boats are high-dollar, high quality rides.

I suspect that a lot of toys that cost $30 and $40 grand are going unsold, nowadays.

Well, I guess the carbon footprint will improve.

Siver linings, you know.

N Korea invites US envoy to nuclear talks

Under increasing pressure to bargain with the international community, Pyongyang has invited Stephen Bosworth, the US special representative for North Korea, to attend talks on its nuclear programme, according to South Korean media.

North Korea has long been eager for bilateral talks with the US, with officials reminding Washington this month of its interest in meetings with Bill Richardson, the governor of New Mexico, and Bill Clinton, the former US president. But the US has sought to address the nuclear issue through multilateral talks that pull in South Korea, Japan, China and Russia. Pyongyang vowed this year never to return to these six-party talks.

Are we seeing the next move in the quid pro quo from the Clinton visit and the release the journalists? Let's see what the administration response is.

re: #198 realwest

Yep, and ole Elvis has been bitch smacking MJ around since he passed (MJ, that is) for marrying her!

Hee-hee!

re: #201 JCM

N Korea invites US envoy to nuclear talks

Are we seeing the next move in the quid pro quo from the Clinton visit and the release the journalists? Let's see what the administration response is.

Or maybe Kim Il Jong's sharks are hungry.
"Mr. Bosworth, stand a little to your left"

re: #199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #195 realwest

Hi Ward - hope all is well in the Cleaver household today! "The whole thing has a been a big freaking disaster."
Now just waitaminute there bub, I'd heard it was one of the greatest economic accomplishments of Obama's administration!
The MSM wouldn't lie about something like that, would they?

Well, it kind of is one of the greatest accomplishments of the Obama administration. Still a disaster, but one of the greatest...

"He accomplished great things. Terrible things, but great nonetheless."

re: #201 JCM

This will be where the ransom money is handed over.

Economy is in the tank.
WA State has a $8 Billion budget hole, and largest line item in the state budget is education.

So what does the WEA go and do?

The start of school is near and so, too, the unfortunate threat of class delays if teachers go on strike in three Western Washington school districts.

re: #195 realwest

Hi Ward - hope all is well in the Cleaver household today! "The whole thing has a been a big freaking disaster."
Now just waitaminute there bub, I'd heard it was one of the greatest economic accomplishments of Obama's administration!
The MSM wouldn't lie about something like that, would they?

Hey RW, I'm doing okay. June, however, thinks she may have an abdominal hernia. Man, we sure hope not. Guess we'll find out today, after her Dr. visit. Her abdominal muscles have never been the same since the breast reconstruction surgery a year and a half ago. She's started working out pretty vigorously (water aerobics), and thinks that might have caused her problem.

Whenever a (R) appears on MSM they always suggest that there is a need for 'some type' of health care reform. I for one don't see it, don't want it! The 'party' should put forth an option - e.g. fix Medicare/Medicaid/Soc.Sec and let's talk tort reform. Remember how often Bush 'the elder' threw tort reform out there? of course it was ignored by the Left.

just my 2cents

re: #172 Kenneth
Just an EXCELLENT and SPOT ON Comment my friend.

re: #187 Danny

Yes, thanks. I read the thread yesterday, and it was clear that several people misunderstood what is alleged to have happened. It got me to thinking.

I believe the orchestrated outrage we are are now seeing directed at the CIA is in part the projection of fear of terrorist attacks by people who have, by reason of ideology, decided to deny the reality of the threat. With their minds bent by politically correct multicultural indoctrination, in which the culture of the Other is always good, and our own is always bad, they face the world with blinkers. Instead of admitting the Islamic terrorists really are threatening to kill us and our children, they project that threat onto the CIA, our bad self.

This willful blindness is taught to us from the very top. President Obama reaches out to our enemies, derides our allies and stabs in the back the brave Americans who serve to protect the nation.

re: #207 Ward Cleaver

Dang, Ward. Prayers for {June}. That lady has been through enough crap!

re: #206 JCM

Economy is in the tank.
WA State has a $8 Billion budget hole, and largest line item in the state budget is education.

So what does the WEA go and do?

The start of school is near and so, too, the unfortunate threat of class delays if teachers go on strike in three Western Washington school districts.

Glad we have a balanced budget amendment here in Texas.

re: #210 Kenneth

Damn Kenneth... you are hitting it out of the park with this analysis!!!

Spot on!!!

re: #211 redstateredneck

Dang, Ward. Prayers for {June}. That lady has been through enough crap!

You're tellin' me!

re: #210 Kenneth

God help us.

re: #173 opnion
I'm fine as I can be, thankew kindly! And I'm too old, too tired and waaay too cranky to ever let some morons haul me off to any re-education camps.
Rangers look good in those Black Berets - the members of the NoI look just plain silly - like little kids trying to play Tough Guy.
My Ass.

re: #210 Kenneth

Yes, thanks. I read the thread yesterday, and it was clear that several people misunderstood what is alleged to have happened. It got me to thinking.

I believe the orchestrated outrage we are are now seeing directed at the CIA is in part the projection of fear of terrorist attacks by people who have, by reason of ideology, decided to deny the reality of the threat. With their minds bent by politically correct multicultural indoctrination, in which the culture of the Other is always good, and our own is always bad, they face the world with blinkers. Instead of admitting the Islamic terrorists really are threatening to kill us and our children, they project that threat onto the CIA, our bad self.

This willful blindness is taught to us from the very top. President Obama reaches out to our enemies, derides our allies and stabs in the back the brave Americans who serve to protect the nation.

Like I said yesterday, we have come full circle, and it's again 9/10.

Well, Boyz and Girrlz, that's me for today.

The shoulder is getting steadily better, so I have to get moving and try to catch up on all the chores undone over the last couple of weeks.

Live goes on, whether you're ready or not.

re: #210 Kenneth

Kenneth: I think that is the same dynamic behind a lot of the 'troofers' as well. They couldn't handle the cognitive dissonance and went into deep denial.

re: #216 realwest

You should see our tankers on parade with their black berets. :)

News on Drudge, 2009 is the deadliest year in Afghanistan. What's going on? Have we changed how we are fighting the terrorists? Are we engaging the enemy more than we have in the past? Are there more of them and so the death toll of our troops would naturally be expected to escalate? Or is just a coincidence?

re: #218 razorbacker

Bye rb...have a good day.

re: #217 Ward Cleaver

Like I said yesterday, we have come full circle, and it's again 9/10.

With the terrorists close to having nuclear weapons, courtesy of North Korea and Iran.

re: #185 Kenneth
"the president told the welcoming but subdued crowd."
FTFY - I can well imagine how subdued the members of the VFW were to anything he'd have to say.

Busy day here. Should bb after lunch.

re: #212 Ward Cleaver

Glad we have a balanced budget amendment here in Texas.

We do too.

(D) has a large majority in the legislature, they did a bunch of accounting tricks, like take the stimulus money that was promised even before the bill passed and put it in the budget as income to "balance" the budget. They cut state salaries in the budget, but then in reality didn't actually do it. Unions screamed to loud.

Classical case of the government bribing the people from the public trough. Per capita wise our hole is as big as CA, next budget cycle it will blow up.

re: #221 wintercat

News on Drudge, 2009 is the deadliest year in Afghanistan. What's going on? Have we changed how we are fighting the terrorists? Are we engaging the enemy more than we have in the past? Are there more of them and so the death toll of our troops would naturally be expected to escalate? Or is just a coincidence?

/more IEDs

re: #223 Kosh's Shadow

With the terrorists close to having nuclear weapons, courtesy of North Korea and Iran.

This can only end badly, I'm afraid.

re: #219 SurferDoc

Yes, very true. The same dysfunctional psychological processes are at work: denial, projection, paranoia & splitting.

re: #221 wintercat

News on Drudge, 2009 is the deadliest year in Afghanistan. What's going on? Have we changed how we are fighting the terrorists? Are we engaging the enemy more than we have in the past? Are there more of them and so the death toll of our troops would naturally be expected to escalate? Or is just a coincidence?

My question would have been, "Why isn't the MSM FREAKING OUT??"

re: #186 Ben Hur

His WWII parachute was made out of Hemp.

Really?! I thought parachutes were made from silk or somesuch more exotic material!
Just one of the reasons why I never went "Airborne".

re: #224 realwest

"the president told the welcoming but subdued crowd."
FTFY - I can well imagine how subdued the members of the VFW were to anything he'd have to say.

VFW being "subdued" means the vets respect the office and are too polite to give him the welcome they would like too.

re: #188 JCM

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re: #186 Ben Hur

His WWII parachute was made out of Hemp.

"And remember, Lieutenant, after you land you must smoke your parachute so it won't be found by the enemy."

re: #233 realwest

One helluva lot more than I can afford - gave to Yon last year, Totten this year!

I sent enough for the both of us!

re: #224 realwest

You know what the audience would be like. These are veterans who keep the ideal of national service very dear. They all have lost friends in war. They also respect the institutions of the country enough to give the Commander in Chief, whomever he is, a respectful welcome. But that's as far as it goes. They listened very carefully to what Obama said and did not say.

re: #207 Ward Cleaver

Hey RW, I'm doing okay. June, however, thinks she may have an abdominal hernia. Man, we sure hope not. Guess we'll find out today, after her Dr. visit. Her abdominal muscles have never been the same since the breast reconstruction surgery a year and a half ago. She's started working out pretty vigorously (water aerobics), and thinks that might have caused her problem.

Damn ward - I surely do hope it's just a pulled abdominal muscle, not a hernia! All my best to her and to you and the family.

re: #234 JamesTKirk

"And remember, Lieutenant, after you land you must smoke your parachute so it won't be found by the enemy."

After that, just tell them that the Doritos are over on the other side of the enemies lines, and that the enemy is keeping the snacks from them.

Pop some popcorn, grab a seat it's watermelon vs. watermelon in a cage match!

Spotted owls block Skamania wind farm expansion

Plans for a wind farm on some state land in Skamania County are on hold because it's spotted owl habitat.

The Department of Natural Resources is no longer considering leasing 2,560 acres to the SDS Lumber Co. for possible future expansion of the proposed Whistling Ridge Energy Project.

The Vancouver Columbian reports the state is required to manage the second-growth forest, with scattered old-growth trees, as a spotted owl emphasis area.

Has anyone seen SasquatchonSteriods?

Speeder Nabbed Chasing, Ah, Bigfoot

A man who told police he was hunting Sasquatch is in the Benewah County Jail after a high speed chase that ended with his arrest Sunday in Worley.

re: #235 JCM

I sent enough for the both of us!

WOW! Thank you very much my friend! I do truly appreciate that generousity.

BBIAM

re: #239 JCM

Pop some popcorn, grab a seat it's watermelon vs. watermelon in a cage match!

Spotted owls block Skamania wind farm expansion

Massive hemorrhaging may occur over that one.

re: #238 Honorary Yooper

After that, just tell them that the Doritos are over on the other side of the enemies lines, and that the enemy is keeping the snacks from them.

And keep fighting those Japanese, because half an hour after you defeat one platoon, you'll be hungry again!

re: #240 JCM

Has anyone seen SasquatchonSteriods?

Speeder Nabbed Chasing, Ah, Bigfoot

NPR had a pledge drive, so I supported programing I enjoyed!

re: #240 JCM

Has anyone seen SasquatchonSteriods?

Speeder Nabbed Chasing, Ah, Bigfoot

Corollas have no chance.
Bring the Monster Truck next time.

Can I have want Chuckie Schmuckie is smokin'?

SEN. SCHUMER:

And the public option we've proposed is not one of these big government control things. The government sets it up. It has a different model. It doesn't have to make a profit or merchandise as much, so its costs are probably 20 percent lower. But then, on a level playing field, it competes with private insurance. And one thing I want to underscore, David, is it not a mandate, it's an option. If you like your, your present insurance, whether you're an employer or an individual, you keep it and it doesn't change.

Helicopter landing on Rock pinacle above cliff. We had just rescued a man that fell down a cliff. This is the only place the helicopter could land to pick us up.

Mad Skillz.

re: #246 SasquatchOnSteroids

Corollas have no chance.
Bring the Monster Truck next time.

You made bail!

/;-P

re: #247 JCM

Can I have want Chuckie Schmuckie is smokin'?

SEN. SCHUMER:

He is so full of shit.

re: #247 JCM

Can I have want Chuckie Schmuckie is smokin'?

SEN. SCHUMER:

wow, it doesn't have to make a profit. so it can lose money and the taxpayer can pick up the cost but its a level playing field.

Great logic...

re: #246 SasquatchOnSteroids

Corollas have no chance.
Bring the Monster Truck next time.

Good morning my friend - Monster Truck? Y'all just want something bigger to throw than a Corolla, don't ya?!

re: #248 Ben Hur

Mad Skillz.

More mad rotorhead skillz.

re: #250 redstateredneck

He is so full of shit.

re: #251 MikeAlv77

wow, it doesn't have to make a profit. so it can lose money and the taxpayer can pick up the cost but its a level playing field.

Great logic...

These are the geniuses who want to take over 17% of the economy.

re: #254 JCM

These are the geniuses who want to take over 17% of the economy.

These are the geniuses who want to take over 17% of the economy for starters... If this passes, what's next?

re: #252 realwest

How are you doing today, RW ?

Yeah, Corollas are for the kids, give me the real iron.