At her Facebook page, Sarah Palin is hyping the Glenn Beck Obama-Hitler Hour: Sarah Palin: An Invitation | Facebook.
FOX News’ Glenn Beck is doing an extraordinary job this week walking America behind the scenes of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and outlining who is actually running the White House.
Monday night he asked us to invite one friend to watch; tonight I invite all my friends to watch.
-Sarah Palin
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:42:02am |
Like I said on the last thread,
Ugh. She's going to implode as a political figure; it's only a matter of time. Hitching her wagon to Beck is a terrible idea. It's never a good idea to stand next to the shack where dynamite is stored.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:43:11am |
Paging Mitt Romney.
Please show the Republican party isn't made entirely of loonies.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:43:22am |
Well so much for her political aspirations. If she had any left.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:43:22am |
There's train wreck tonight at 7/6c - tune in to see the carnage!
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MrSilverDragon Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:43:39am |
I used to support Palin. I'm finding it quite difficult to do so now.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:43:56am |
FOX News’ Glenn Beck is doing an extraordinary job this week walking America behind the scenes of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and outlining who is actually running the White House.
Sorry- to me this just reeks of the lefty kookspiracies that the Bush White House was being run by Haliburton. I didn't believe President Bush to be a puppet, and I'm not going to believe of other Presidents either.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:44:00am |
Sorry for the OT so early, but speaking of pitiful, I see Carter has penned a new anti-Israel screed.
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harrylook Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:44:12am |
Oy vey. I was tempted to defend her in a political discussion this weekend. Glad I didn't. I'd be embarrassed. She started off so promising...
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Athos Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:44:14am |
An example of cluelessness advocating more cluelessness.
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:44:26am |
Is anyone advising her to do stupid things like this, or is she coming up with these horrible ideas on her own?
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:44:29am |
Her political star is falling even faster than it rose.
/i can't watch
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:44:37am |
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:45:14am |
Palin will do anything, including using her son's disability, to get attention and further her lies.
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Racer X Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:45:35am |
I'll watch. I'm not going to put my head in the sand. My bullshit filters work OK.
I trust no one, I believe no one. My lying eyes are suspect, but I continue to observe.
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:45:49am |
The scariest thing is that she's the most net-saavy of all the GOP leaders or potential candidates for 2012. That she's associating with Beck should send up serious red flags. She must figure that Beck is more of an asset to getting her name and message out than he is a detriment because of his loony views.
Sadly, she must be getting some seriously flawed advice on the matter, because Beck's views can and should put a serious crimp in her designs towards 2012. Beck is off the deep end, and it shows poor judgment on Palin's part to associate with him in this manner.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:46:06am |
re: #7 BlueCanuck
Well so much for her political aspirations. If she had any left.
heh, don't underestimate her and Beck and the rest of them...they are not just going to go away
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Dr. Shalit Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:46:09am |
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:46:11am |
I wonder if the servers over at Facebook start smoking when she posts something. That has got to bring an avalanche of hits to the site.
I watched this video from Glenn Beck this morning on RCP talking about Van Jones. He is going after the Big O, in a big way.
The Beck/Palin Nexus...ugh...I am beginning to think my party will never get back into power now. :-(
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:46:29am |
re: #14 doppelganglander
Is anyone advising her to do stupid things like this, or is she coming up with these horrible ideas on her own?
Someone else is running the White House, so who is running her?
I mean- it's not like a politician can think and act for themselves- they must have puppet masters! By that logic I ask again- who is hers?
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Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:46:31am |
re: #6 Kosh's Shadow
Paging Mitt Romney.
Please show the Republican party isn't made entirely of loonies.
Sometimes, the best course of action is to do nothing. Mitt's been weighing in with his opinions and supposedly approaching groups which had problems with him last election to try and garner support for 2012. The best thing he can do is keep himself out of this feeding frenzy and let them tear themselves apart, then come in later as the voice of reason.
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MrSilverDragon Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:47:07am |
I never thought I'd say this, but I think Ozzy Osborne hit the nail on the head on something...
"I'm going off the rails on a crazy train".
Sarah, please listen.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:47:19am |
re: #24 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Sometimes, the best course of action is to do nothing. Mitt's been weighing in with his opinions and supposedly approaching groups which had problems with him last election to try and garner support for 2012. The best thing he can do is keep himself out of this feeding frenzy and let them tear themselves apart, then come in later as the voice of reason.
I agree; stay above the fray.
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Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:47:50am |
Since I don't watch Beck..What is so special about tonight?
I refuse to watch Beck until he puts on a Clown outfit and honks a bike horn while he is talking...( Oh..He needs really big clown shoes)
/Maybe tonight is night!
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:47:52am |
re: #25 MrSilverDragon
I never thought I'd say this, but I think Ozzy Osborne hit the nail on the head on something...
"I'm going off the rails on a crazy train".
Sarah, please listen.
Is that going to be her campaign song?
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:47:56am |
As an addendum to the Rudy possible run for governor in NY, he's got to overcome the fact that he still hasn't paid off the campaign debts from the 2008 presidential run. That's got to happen before he can make a run; and that puts him behind other possible candidates.
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scrubjay Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:48:01am |
I don't see what is wrong with her asking people to learn about the personalities in th White House. Even if one doesn't agree with some of what Beck is doing he is still a good source of information. I wouldn't make the perfect the enemy of the good.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:48:21am |
re: #14 doppelganglander
Is anyone advising her to do stupid things like this, or is she coming up with these horrible ideas on her own?
Interesting question. Lefties have proposed that much of the recent writtings like the Death Panel post were not written by her, it wasn't her style. I do think she has advisers who are feeding her talking points and laying out a strategy for her. Who they are and what their plan is I have no idea but it does seem like she's pandering to the libertarian/Tea Party crowd.
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Wendya Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:48:30am |
re: #22 Desert Dog
I watched this video from Glenn Beck this morning on RCP talking about Van Jones. He is going after the Big O, in a big way.
I don't watch television so I don't know what the other talk show hosts on the right are saying. My question is, are any other hosts bringing up the same information without the hysteria?
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Noam Sayin' Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:48:30am |
This was a poor choice. Advertisers are leaving his show right and left. Is she not aware of that?
/maybe I'll IM her and let her know.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:48:32am |
It's not a good Beck show until he starts weeping.
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Rexatosis Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:49:10am |
How the hell did Glen Beck ever become a political pundit? Wasn't he just a grade d comic? Is this going to be the level of political discourse in this country where the political class goes on these offally "funny" shows and this is how America gets its information?
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MrSilverDragon Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:49:32am |
re: #28 Ward Cleaver
Is that going to be her campaign song?
Followed closely by "Institutionalized" by Suicidal Tendencies if things keep up this way.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:49:58am |
re: #10 Sharmuta
Sorry- to me this just reeks of the lefty kookspiracies that the Bush White House was being run by Haliburton. I didn't believe President Bush to be a puppet, and I'm not going to believe of other Presidents either.
I totally agree. I believe all these dumb policies and programs are coming straight from him.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:50:13am |
re: #35 Rexatosis
How the hell did Glen Beck ever become a political pundit? Wasn't he just a grade d comic? Is this going to be the level of political discourse in this country where the political class goes on these offally "funny" shows and this is how America gets its information?
It's all about ratings.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:50:14am |
re: #36 MrSilverDragon
Followed closely by "Institutionalized" by Suicidal Tendencies if things keep up this way.
I was listening to that the other day. No shit.
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:50:23am |
re: #26 Ward Cleaver
I agree; stay above the fray.
2012 is a long way off. Think about Bush in August, 2001. Many things can happen in during that time. I am happy on one hand that the Republicans have awoken from their slumber and are getting active again, but I am disheartened by the number of absolute lunatics that have sprung out of the woodwork.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:50:26am |
re: #26 Ward Cleaver
I agree; stay above the fray.
what fray?...has anyone from the GOP denounced the lunatics?...if they did I missed it...Beck is rapidly becoming mainstream
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JohnnyReb Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:50:38am |
re: #31 Killgore Trout
Interesting question. Lefties have proposed that much of the recent writtings like the Death Panel post were not written by her, it wasn't her style. I do think she has advisers who are feeding her talking points and laying out a strategy for her. Who they are and what their plan is I have no idea but it does seem like she's pandering to the libertarian/Tea Party crowd.
Who would be signing the paychecks for these advisor's? She is pretty much broke from the lawsuits she had as governor, and those kind of people do not work for free. I can't imagine anyone from the RNC paying for her advisor's.
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:50:59am |
re: #27 HoosierHoops
Since I don't watch Beck..What is so special about tonight?
I refuse to watch Beck until he puts on a Clown outfit and honks a bike horn while he is talking...( Oh..He needs really big clown shoes)
/Maybe tonight is night!
* * * *
FYI, Rodeo Clown WAS a previous job he held.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:51:10am |
Anyone who still thinks Sarah is a force for good should check their garage. There may be a unicorn in there.
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Locker Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:51:16am |
I think Glen Beck and Sarah should get married and start their own political party.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:51:19am |
re: #11 Creeping Eruption
Sorry for the OT so early, but speaking of pitiful, I see Carter has penned a new anti-Israel screed.
So what else is new?
Link? Although I might not read it if there is anything within throwing distance.
I think when Carter finally meets his rabbit, I will not be able to post to LGF if I want to keep my account. He is a Jew-hating scumbag. (And as we were discussing, Ted Kennedy ran against him just because Carter was so bad.)
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Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:51:25am |
re: #40 Desert Dog
I am disheartened by the number of absolute lunatics that have sprung out of the woodwork.
Like lemmings off a cliff.
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:51:53am |
re: #27 HoosierHoops
Since I don't watch Beck..What is so special about tonight?
I refuse to watch Beck until he puts on a Clown outfit and honks a bike horn while he is talking...( Oh..He needs really big clown shoes)
/Maybe tonight is night!
He will have a record audience tonight, mark my words. I will not be one of them, but he'll have millions others watching.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:52:18am |
re: #35 Rexatosis
I think it's a coincidence. I suspect Beck had an "awakening" about a year ago when he discovered Birch society stuff. He got lucky that Birchers made a comeback in popularity shortly after.
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Wendya Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:52:21am |
re: #44 Cato the Elder
Anyone who still thinks Sarah is a force for good should check their garage. There may be a unicorn in there.
Why would Obama supporters think she's a force for good?
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:52:24am |
re: #33 Noam Sayin'
This was a poor choice. Advertisers are leaving his show right and left. Is she not aware of that?
/maybe I'll IM her and let her know.
The advertisers are leaving Beck's program because of a campaign by Color of Change. It's not much different than the Jesse Jackson Rainbow Coalition shakedowns, with the exception of Clorox. They chose not to be on any blowhard political show.
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Dr. Shalit Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:52:32am |
re: #38 Ward Cleaver
It's all about ratings.
Ward Cleaver -
No kidding, and Beck is the hottest thing in his time slot. A great entertainer, seemingly capable of making every weekday night "NETWORK" night for the time being.
-S-
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Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:52:44am |
re: #43 alegrias
* * * *
FYI, Rodeo Clown WAS a previous job he held.
So that is where his training came from? He is a clown...
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SFGoth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:53:09am |
Beck never really came close to mainstream. Too "artistic". Oh wait, not *Jeff* Beck. I'm sick and tired of Glen Beck! I'm sick and tired of Sarah Palin. I'm sick and tired of creationism, and I'm sick and tired of turtles, all the way down. Football season *cannot* get here soon enough.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:53:11am |
re: #35 Rexatosis
How the hell did Glen Beck ever become a political pundit? Wasn't he just a grade d comic? Is this going to be the level of political discourse in this country where the political class goes on these offally "funny" shows and this is how America gets its information?
A "senator" from Minnesota comes to mind...
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:53:46am |
re: #42 JohnnyReb
Who would be signing the paychecks for these advisor's? She is pretty much broke from the lawsuits she had as governor, and those kind of people do not work for free. I can't imagine anyone from the RNC paying for her advisor's.
I don't think she's broke, she actually very wealthy. She might be paying them herself. It's possible that she's being funded by some think tank but I haven't seen any evidence.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:53:52am |
re: #31 Killgore Trout
I do think she has advisers who are feeding her talking points and laying out a strategy for her. Who they are and what their plan is I have no idea but it does seem like she's pandering to the libertarian/Tea Party crowd.
I agree with you. They are the vocal faction in the GOP tent at this moment, and she and her advisors may have confused them as the faction worth retaining.
In fact- I do believe others have stated she should try to woo the "true conservative" base, but it was said by someone who, imo, doesn't know what that even means.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:53:53am |
But by all means, make this all about Beck. Sarah is hot!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:54:34am |
re: #45 Locker
I think Glen Beck and Sarah should get married and start their own political party.
Mmm. Todd Palin. Glenn Beck. Todd Palin. Glenn Beck.
Don't think it's going to happen.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:54:36am |
re: #56 Killgore Trout
I don't think she's broke, she actually very wealthy. She might be paying them herself. It's possible that she's being funded by some think tank but I haven't seen any evidence.
She has her own PAC.
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Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:54:39am |
re: #19 lawhawk
The scariest thing is that she's the most net-saavy of all the GOP leaders or potential candidates for 2012. That she's associating with Beck should send up serious red flags. She must figure that Beck is more of an asset to getting her name and message out than he is a detriment because of his loony views.
Sadly, she must be getting some seriously flawed advice on the matter, because Beck's views can and should put a serious crimp in her designs towards 2012. Beck is off the deep end, and it shows poor judgment on Palin's part to associate with him in this manner.
On the other hand if she's going the punditry/rainmaker route it's smart to play the "scratch my crazy back and I'll scratch yours" game.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:55:08am |
re: #54 SFGoth
Football season *cannot* get here soon enough.
Oh Yeah!!! Now we're talking. High School football starts down in OH Friday. I've got the big Fantasy FB draft this weekend (and next). I'm ready.
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Ben Hur Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:55:11am |
re: #51 CommonCents
The advertisers are leaving Beck's program because of a campaign by Color of Change. It's not much different than the Jesse Jackson Rainbow Coalition shakedowns, with the exception of Clorox. They chose not to be on any blowhard political show.
I've discussed Beck a few times this week with acquaintances.
I keep getting the same type of response.
They like some of the things he covers, like the expose of Color of Change.
I tell them, "But Beck's a nut" and they ALL agree. For some reason they tune in.
The two today were more freaked out about the Color of Change guy working for the WH, than Beck's nuttiness.
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ArchangelMichael Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:55:11am |
"Ma'am, you're not being very helpful."
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:55:24am |
re: #50 Wendya
Why would Obama supporters think she's a force for good?
Unicorns are not just for Democrat dupes. They're for Republican rubes, too!
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Racer X Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:55:26am |
Links from Huffpo and KOS = Good
Watching Fox = Bad
I don't get it?
I do get that Beck is a clown and a drama queen. I get that. But he does make (on occasion) points that make me go 'hmmm'. I have serious concerns with what is going on with the current administration. I'm going to continue to look at what others are saying, then make up my own mind as to what is bullshit.
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cronus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:55:49am |
Further evidence that Palin doesn't harbor serious national political ambitions. She wants to cash checks by being a conservative gadfly and media kingmaker. Given that there appears to be a limitless appetite for this kind of stuff she is probably targeting her market wisely by aping Beck -- a sad commentary.
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Dianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:55:53am |
re: #1 Desert Dog
Calling Cato, are you there Cato?
Nooo! Please, I just can't take the ugliness this morning!
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Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:56:14am |
As the saying goes, the squeaky crank gets the crazy goo.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:56:15am |
re: #46 Kosh's Shadow
So what else is new?
Link? Although I might not read it if there is anything within throwing distance.I think when Carter finally meets his rabbit, I will not be able to post to LGF if I want to keep my account. He is a Jew-hating scumbag. (And as we were discussing, Ted Kennedy ran against him just because Carter was so bad.)
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jorline Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:56:40am |
Wasn't Pimpin Palin a character in "Lord of the Rings"?
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:57:09am |
re: #68 Dianna
Nooo! Please, I just can't take the ugliness this morning!
The ugliness comes from Sarah.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:57:15am |
Dear Sarah-
Please keep going. Grab as much of a base as you can, and run as an independent. Please take all the nirthers, creationists and Obama=hitler people with you.
The sane wing of the conservative movement thanks you!
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:57:15am |
re: #35 Rexatosis
How the hell did Glen Beck ever become a political pundit? Wasn't he just a grade d comic? Is this going to be the level of political discourse in this country where the political class goes on these offally "funny" shows and this is how America gets its information?
* * * *
You got a problem with America where any one can rise to the top in whatever field they choose, despite not attending Harvard nor coming from a rich political family?
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Ben Hur Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:57:28am |
re: #54 SFGoth
Upding on the football season.
But this:
I'm sick and tired of turtles
goes waaay beyond the pale.
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JohnnyReb Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:57:29am |
re: #56 Killgore Trout
I don't think she's broke, she actually very wealthy. She might be paying them herself. It's possible that she's being funded by some think tank but I haven't seen any evidence.
Seriously, she is being secretly funded by some think tank? Come on.
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karmic_inquisitor Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:57:43am |
Birds of a feather [shit on rationality] together.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:57:53am |
re: #63 Ben Hur
I've discussed Beck a few times this week with acquaintances.
I keep getting the same type of response.
They like some of the things he covers, like the expose of Color of Change.
I tell them, "But Beck's a nut" and they ALL agree. For some reason they tune in.
The two today were more freaked out about the Color of Change guy working for the WH, than Beck's nuttiness.
I quit watching him shortly after he joined Fox. He didn't seem this nutty when he was on CNN, perhaps that was some employer restraint. Now he's just a polar opposite of The View but with more emotion than the 4 ladies.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:58:10am |
You know, back when John McCain picked her as his running mate, I was actually kind of excited about her. She seemed, at the time, to have her head screwed on straight.
Dear lord, how wrong I was.
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Wendya Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:58:18am |
re: #73 Sharmuta
Dear Sarah-
Please keep going. Grab as much of a base as you can, and run as an independent. Please take all the nirthers, creationists and Obama=hitler people with you.
The sane wing of the conservative movement thanks you!
And so will the democrats.
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Dianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:58:20am |
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:58:28am |
re: #57 Sharmuta
I agree with you. They are the vocal faction in the GOP tent at this moment, and she and her advisors may have confused them as the faction worth retaining.
In fact- I do believe others have stated she should try to woo the "true conservative" base, but it was said by someone who, imo, doesn't know what that even means.
I'm just hoping that once the campaign starts to get serious, all this bullshit noise gets pushed aside. The lunacy is strong right now because there's nothing at stake yet. The 2010 election is 14 months away, and the 2012 election is 38 months away. A long time in politics.
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Racer X Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:58:44am |
re: #73 Sharmuta
Dear Sarah-
Please keep going. Grab as much of a base as you can, and run as an independent. Please take all the nirthers, creationists and Obama=hitler people with you.
The sane wing of the conservative movement thanks you!
We don't need another Ross Perot.
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Dr. Shalit Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:58:44am |
re: #63 Ben Hur
I've discussed Beck a few times this week with acquaintances.
I keep getting the same type of response.
They like some of the things he covers, like the expose of Color of Change.
I tell them, "But Beck's a nut" and they ALL agree. For some reason they tune in.
The two today were more freaked out about the Color of Change guy working for the WH, than Beck's nuttiness.
Ben Hur -
I must admit that Van Jones is NOT someone I would have appointed and think most here given the chance would not have either. That said, the sitting President DID appoint him. The question "why?" should be directed at Pres. Obama.
-S-
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:58:48am |
re: #76 JohnnyReb
As pointed out earlier she has her own PAC.
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:58:52am |
re: #30 scrubjay
I don't see what is wrong with her asking people to learn about the personalities in th White House. Even if one doesn't agree with some of what Beck is doing he is still a good source of information. I wouldn't make the perfect the enemy of the good.
Beck is exposing Obama's reliance on "Czars" rather than cabinet members. He is right by pointing out that these advisers seem to be wielding significant influence within the White House and that they have basically bypassed the usual confirmation process that a Cabinet member must endure. I am not familiar enough with this new phenomenon of "czars". Was is started under Bush or Clinton? It appears Obama is taking that concept to a much more higher level.
Beck is a whacko, but even whackos can ask smart questions sometimes.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:59:16am |
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:00:21am |
re: #70 Creeping Eruption
Thanks. So Carter wrote another book. May it be in the remainders next week, and in the recycle bin the week after that.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:00:29am |
re: #79 thedopefishlives
You know, back when John McCain picked her as his running mate, I was actually kind of excited about her. She seemed, at the time, to have her head screwed on straight.
Dear lord, how wrong I was.
Back then I voiced my concern here that she was not the right pick. My Karma has never been the same since.
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:00:30am |
re: #54 SFGoth
Beck never really came close to mainstream. Too "artistic". Oh wait, not *Jeff* Beck. I'm sick and tired of Glen Beck! I'm sick and tired of Sarah Palin. I'm sick and tired of creationism, and I'm sick and tired of turtles, all the way down. Football season *cannot* get here soon enough.
Them Niners going anywhere this year? The "Mighty" Cardinals are looking ok again this year. My other team, the Broncos...I am not so sure. It could be a long, long, long season up at Mile High this year...ugh.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:00:34am |
re: #87 Cato the Elder
Don't let the sad truth hit you in the butt...
There's being disappointed in someone when they embrace something. Then theirs the vitriol that you have been constantly spewing on personal attacks for months. Give it up or seek counseling.
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Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:01:15am |
re: #85 Killgore Trout
As pointed out earlier she has her own PAC.
The real question of the moment is: "Is the PAC for her, or is she going the Gingrichian Rainmaker route?" e.g. Perennially stumping for money to influence congressional elections while alternately flirting with and dodging from candidacy herself.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:01:35am |
re: #91 BlueCanuck
There's being disappointed in someone when they embrace something. Then theirs the vitriol that you have been constantly spewing on personal attacks for months. Give it up or seek counseling.
When lipstick-wearing pigs fly.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:01:36am |
re: #85 Killgore Trout
As pointed out earlier she has her own PAC.
Can she live off of PAC money (groceries, housing, etc.)? Where do the FEC regulations stand on this?
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:02:11am |
re: #89 Creeping Eruption
Added a +1 to start geting it back up to the proper level :-)
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SFGoth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:02:21am |
I'm still holding out hope for a conservatarian, black lesbian who looks Grace Jones, recites the Bill of Rights every night before bed, hates taxes, can debate the merits of the 3-4 v. the 4-3, and won't take shit from any "debate" questioner who throws her a loaded one. Oh, and her VEEP is Giuliani because he's the one who wears the dress. ;->
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:02:26am |
re: #10 Sharmuta
Sorry- to me this just reeks of the lefty kookspiracies that the Bush White House was being run by Haliburton. I didn't believe President Bush to be a puppet, and I'm not going to believe of other Presidents either.
Most of our presidents have been puppets to special interest and big money. If you don't think so, you try to run for any office and stay clear of any money and control from those types.
Can't do.
The Kleptocracy and Plutocracy is alive and well and reside comfortably among American politics, from the local, state to the federal level.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:02:33am |
During his 2 p.m. PDT show, Beck did not address the boycott spearheaded by Color of Change to protest the talk show host’s remark last month that he believes President Obama is “a racist.”
Instead, he spent a large share of his program suggesting that Jones, who co-founded Color of Change in 2005, is a radical. Jones now serves as a special advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation at the White House Council on Environmental Quality.
SNIP
Beck has gone after Jones in the past. On July 28, he called the activist a "self-professed communist" and questioned the role he was playing in the administration. His latest assault on Jones came as Color of Change announced that it has secured commitments from 36 companies who have pledged not to advertise on Beck’s popular program, including Wal-Mart and Sprint. However, some of the companies never had a presence on "Glenn Beck." Representatives of Procter & Gamble and AT&T – listed by Color of Change as companies that had signed onto the boycott – told The Times that their companies did not run spots on Beck’s program to begin with.
SNIP
(Jones' spokesfolks say that he's not been "active" in CoC for two years.)
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:02:40am |
re: #89 Creeping Eruption
Back then I voiced my concern here that she was not the right pick. My Karma has never been the same since.
Hindsight is always 20/20. Foresight, on the other hand, is most always misunderstood.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:02:40am |
re: #63 Ben Hur
I've discussed Beck a few times this week with acquaintances.
I keep getting the same type of response.
They like some of the things he covers, like the expose of Color of Change.
I tell them, "But Beck's a nut" and they ALL agree. For some reason they tune in.
The two today were more freaked out about the Color of Change guy working for the WH, than Beck's nuttiness.
I believe it is his 'pre-emptive condescension', before he goes all 'crazy talk' he is able to diffuse the audience by saying something along the lines of "I hope I am wrong / I am a recovering alcoholic / I may be completely off my rocker' etc... in the world of 'image is everything' having someone who can admit and own up to flaws is very appealing and I would go as far as refreshing. So those of us who are flawed can relate to the guy and say, wow, I really think he is approachable and could sit down and have a real chat without being brow beat or judged. Just my 2 cents.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:02:49am |
re: #88 Kosh's Shadow
Thanks. So Carter wrote another book. May it be in the remainders next week, and in the recycle bin the week after that.
As James Taranto used to call his spew, "Dinosaur Vomit".
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:02:51am |
re: #79 thedopefishlives
You know, back when John McCain picked her as his running mate, I was actually kind of excited about her. She seemed, at the time, to have her head screwed on straight.
Dear lord, how wrong I was.
Agreed. Her speech at the RNC was impressive, just as Obama's was terrifying. Turns out she's just good at delivering lines.
She could have taken the time between elections to show herself calm and in control, but has been courting the loonies instead.
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:03:11am |
re: #97 SFGoth
I'm still holding out hope for a conservatarian, black lesbian who looks Grace Jones, recites the Bill of Rights every night before bed, hates taxes, can debate the merits of the 3-4 v. the 4-3, and won't take shit from any "debate" questioner who throws her a loaded one. Oh, and her VEEP is Giuliani because he's the one who wears the dress. ;->
Do you want to vote for her or marry her? ;)
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SFGoth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:03:15am |
re: #83 Racer X
We don't need another Ross Perot.
My theory is that Perot started acting nutty when it dawned on him that he was being taken seriously as a candidate -- not just for his ideas per se -- and was afraid he would win.
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Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:03:15am |
re: #92 Sharmuta
True. Thankfully- she's not Ross Perot.
Last election Ron Paul was Ross. The three Two One percent solution to dems winning elections.
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:03:28am |
re: #95 Ward Cleaver
Can she live off of PAC money (groceries, housing, etc.)? Where do the FEC regulations stand on this?
She is going to sign some sort of deal with someone soon enough. She'll be rich. She has a base and a group of followers that will watch, listen or buy anything to do with her. She sells.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:03:34am |
re: #88 Kosh's Shadow
Thanks. So Carter wrote another book. May it be in the remainders next week, and in the recycle bin the week after that.
Amen Selah
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Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:04:30am |
re: #73 Sharmuta
Dear Sarah-
Please keep going. Grab as much of a base as you can, and run as an independent. Please take all the nirthers, creationists and Obama=hitler people with you.
The sane wing of the conservative movement thanks you!
Sharmuta, I don't know but you might find this clip with David Frum interesting:
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:04:40am |
re: #80 Wendya
And so will the democrats.
I think the last thing the democrats want to see is for the right to dump it's kooks and reach out to rational people.
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SFGoth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:04:48am |
re: #90 Desert Dog
Them Niners going anywhere this year? The "Mighty" Cardinals are looking ok again this year. My other team, the Broncos...I am not so sure. It could be a long, long, long season up at Mile High this year...ugh.
I'm not a 9'ers fan. In my 17 years of living here (21 - 4 for law school and the year after, due to affirmative action), I've never been a 9'ers fan. Don't hate 'em, but I got spoiled by Joe Gibbs.
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Wendya Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:04:49am |
re: #86 Desert Dog
I am not familiar enough with this new phenomenon of "czars". Was is started under Bush or Clinton? It appears Obama is taking that concept to a much more higher level.
I believe it was started under Roosevelt. Wikipedia has a list of all "czars" and the Presidents who appointed them.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:05:07am |
re: #83 Racer X
We don't need another Ross Perot.
* * * *
You must be ignorant about Perot's balls.
Ross Perot had enough balls to rescue his hostage EDS employees from Iran's terrorist thugs.
Which was more ballsy than President Carter--and without the US military at Perot's disposal.
Say what you want, but any American in trouble or in the hands of our enemies KNEW Ross Perot would send his personal plane to bring you back. Perot did that for our US Vietnam POWS and their families.
Perot will always get my respect for his bravery under fire and generosity to fellow Americans.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:05:08am |
re: #108 Desert Dog
She is going to sign some sort of deal with someone soon enough. She'll be rich. She has a base and a group of followers that will watch, listen or buy anything to do with her. She sells.
Maybe after Beck completely loses it, Fox will giver her his timeslot.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:05:19am |
re: #111 Gus 802
Sharmuta, I don't know but you might find this clip with David Frum interesting:
Frum's a RINO! Stone the heretic!
/Sorry- watching now.
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Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:05:36am |
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SFGoth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:05:37am |
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:05:55am |
re: #98 Walter L. Newton
Most of our presidents have been puppets to special interest and big money. If you don't think so, you try to run for any office and stay clear of any money and control from those types.
Can't do.
The Kleptocracy and Plutocracy is alive and well and reside comfortably among American politics, from the local, state to the federal level.
If you want to get rich, get elected...works everytime
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:06:30am |
re: #114 Wendya
I believe it was started under Roosevelt. Wikipedia has a list of all "czars" and the Presidents who appointed them.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
wow? really? I didn't know it was back that far. I assumed it was a recent development.
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Wendya Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:07:08am |
re: #112 Sharmuta
I think the last thing the democrats want to see is for the right to dump it's kooks and reach out to rational people.
No, but they would love it if the right split into two different parties and ran two candidates in the 2012 election. A three way spit favors the democrats.
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:07:21am |
re: #116 Ward Cleaver
Maybe after Beck completely loses it, Fox will giver her his timeslot.
She would kill any time slot she had...I would watch...but, with the sound off. :-)
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:07:28am |
re: #99 MandyManners
During his 2 p.m. PDT show, Beck did not address the boycott spearheaded by Color of Change to protest the talk show host’s remark last month that he believes President Obama is “a racist.”
Instead, he spent a large share of his program suggesting that Jones, who co-founded Color of Change in 2005, is a radical. Jones now serves as a special advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation at the White House Council on Environmental Quality.
SNIP
Beck has gone after Jones in the past. On July 28, he called the activist a "self-professed communist" and questioned the role he was playing in the administration. His latest assault on Jones came as Color of Change announced that it has secured commitments from 36 companies who have pledged not to advertise on Beck’s popular program, including Wal-Mart and Sprint. However, some of the companies never had a presence on "Glenn Beck." Representatives of Procter & Gamble and AT&T – listed by Color of Change as companies that had signed onto the boycott – told The Times that their companies did not run spots on Beck’s program to begin with.
SNIP
(Jones' spokesfolks say that he's not been "active" in CoC for two years.)
And the Fox viewers eat it up.
/oy
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cgn38navy Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:08:13am |
I don't agree with the general consensus on this site that Beck is a loon. He is a libertarian. I don't think she's getting flawed advice. She is positioning herself as the opposition. Also, it seems that some believe in a "perfect" candidate. There is no such thing.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:08:25am |
re: #93 Thanos
The real question of the moment is: "Is the PAC for her, or is she going the Gingrichian Rainmaker route?" e.g. Perennially stumping for money to influence congressional elections while alternately flirting with and dodging from candidacy herself.
That's my guess.
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Son of the Black Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:08:32am |
re: #27 HoosierHoops
Since I don't watch Beck..What is so special about tonight?
I refuse to watch Beck until he puts on a Clown outfit and honks a bike horn while he is talking...( Oh..He needs really big clown shoes)
/Maybe tonight is night!
That's Jim Cramer.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:08:43am |
re: #124 Ward Cleaver
And the Fox viewers eat it up.
/oy
Did you notice the highlighted, italicized portion?
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:09:27am |
re: #117 Sharmuta
Frum's a RINO! Stone the heretic!
/Sorry- watching now.
He's being controlled by the CFR, or the Illuminati, or...
/wtf?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:09:28am |
re: #125 cgn38navy
Have you SEEN some of the Beck craziness Charles has posted in the last month? The man's clearly off his rocker.
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Dr. Shalit Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:09:38am |
re: #86 Desert Dog
Desert Dog -
I look at it this way. Every President has had a "Kitchen Cabinet" of UN-OFFICIAL Advisers, an old friend, a home state politico, etc. Some of these people have had huge effect on policy, some have perhaps been unable to get security clearances, or be confirmed by Congress to a Cabinet Post.
Those folks served more or less "pro-bono" and had no direct "line authority" in the Federal Government.
Pres. Obama's "innovation" is to bring such people "in house" - pay them - and give them "line authority." IMHO - Not a Good Idea.
-S-
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P. Aaron Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:09:38am |
Vote for McCain! He'll work with the White House, he'll reach across the aisle, he'll help to craft "meaningful legislation".
Fight the good fight I say, and Lose. Every time it's tried.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:09:39am |
re: #125 cgn38navy
I don't agree with the general consensus on this site that Beck is a loon. He is a libertarian. I don't think she's getting flawed advice. She is positioning herself as the opposition. Also, it seems that some believe in a "perfect" candidate. There is no such thing.
I agree that there is no such thing as a perfect candidate but, Beck has associated himself with some utter assholes.
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Racer X Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:09:52am |
re: #115 alegrias
I was referring to the votes he pulled away from Republicans - it made Bush Sr. a one-timer.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:10:00am |
re: #89 Creeping Eruption
Back then I voiced my concern here that she was not the right pick. My Karma has never been the same since.
I gave you an upding for your avatar. Have a nice day.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:10:05am |
re: #118 Gus 802
Seriously- Frum is the guy more people in the GOP need to listen to. I've flipped through a couple of his books in a book store one afternoon (I was trying to kill time) and he had some great points, and because he's smeared as a RINO!1! no one gives him the time of day.
It's a shame, because he's right.
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:10:06am |
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Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:10:10am |
Mitt Romney makes ‘No Apology’ for book
St. Martin’s Press will publish, “No Apology: The Case for American Greatness.” It’s due out in March, just as mid-term election campaigns are heating up.
Aides say the book outlines the former Massachusetts governor and 2008 Republican presidential contender’s vision for a stronger economy, military and families in America.
During an interview with The Associated Press earlier this year, he said his new book was based on the ’60s tome “The American Challenge” by Frenchman Jean-Jacques Servan-Schreiber and would attempt to shake American economic and political complacency.
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:10:22am |
re: #106 SFGoth
My theory is that Perot started acting nutty when it dawned on him that he was being taken seriously as a candidate -- not just for his ideas per se -- and was afraid he would win.
Perot was a Ferengi - short, big ears, and was interested in profit.
///
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:10:30am |
re: #131 Dr. Shalit
Desert Dog -
I look at it this way. Every President has had a "Kitchen Cabinet" of UN-OFFICIAL Advisers, an old friend, a home state politico, etc. Some of these people have had huge effect on policy, some have perhaps been unable to get security clearances, or be confirmed by Congress to a Cabinet Post.
Those folks served more or less "pro-bono" and had no direct "line authority" in the Federal Government.
Pres. Obama's "innovation" is to bring such people "in house" - pay them - and give them "line authority." IMHO - Not a Good Idea.-S-
I agree.
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Ward Cleaver Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:10:47am |
re: #128 MandyManners
Did you notice the highlighted, italicized portion?
Sorry, I meant that a lot of Fox viewers believe everything Beck says, and don't do their own research.
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anotherindyfilmguy Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:10:55am |
Palin Pimping Beck? Now I have image of her slapping Beck around and yelling "Where's my sponsors?" slap "Where's my sponsors? You wanna sleep with the salmon?!"
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wrenchwench Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:10:57am |
re: #125 cgn38navy
I don't agree with the general consensus on this site that Beck is a loon. He is a libertarian. I don't think she's getting flawed advice. She is positioning herself as the opposition. Also, it seems that some believe in a "perfect" candidate. There is no such thing.
Ron Paul = Libertarian = Loon
Why not Beck too?
Or do you like Ron Paul too?
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:11:08am |
re: #81 Dianna
Not when you're talking.
I'm out.
Notice how when you or anyone critiques Cato's hate spewed screeds, he updings the comment also? He thinks this is a game.
His game is - how much hate can I share today.
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:11:34am |
re: #125 cgn38navy
I don't agree with the general consensus on this site that Beck is a loon. He is a libertarian. I don't think she's getting flawed advice. She is positioning herself as the opposition. Also, it seems that some believe in a "perfect" candidate. There is no such thing.
Have you read his book? I am thinking about reading it to try and figure out what makes the guy tick.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:12:18am |
re: #147 turn
Have you read his book? I am thinking about reading it to try and figure out what makes the guy tick.
Which one?
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:12:31am |
re: #99 MandyManners
Color of Change announced that it has secured commitments from 36 companies who have pledged not to advertise on Beck’s popular program
Shakedown, the new way. Not that I would advertise on Beck's program (if I had something to sell) but I wouldn't boycott because the Rainbow Coalition Color of Change group "asked" me not to.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:12:48am |
All I know is that Washington needs an enema. I just don't know if there is or from here on out ever will be a candidate who can administer it.
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ladycatnip Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:13:03am |
#115 alegrias
I agree with the heroic part of Ross Perot, but didn't he go off the rails at the end, saying people were after his daughter and such? I have only a dim recollection, but what I do remember is how shocked I was that he'd be saying that stuff. It seemed out of character.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:13:10am |
I got a fair amount of guff a while back for suggesting that Palin was positioning herself as de facto leader of the GOP's media-based batcave wing (which might be the whole party by '12 for all I know). I think these recent statements, which seem nutty to many of us but which play well with the media wing, bear it out though.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:13:39am |
re: #144 unrealizedviewpoint
Notice how when you or anyone critiques Cato's hate spewed screeds, he updings the comment also? He thinks this is a game.
His game is - how much hate can I share today.
I couldn't call what he's passing out as hate. It's worse then that.
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:13:48am |
re: #150 Oh no...Sand People!
All I know is that Washington needs an enema. I just don't know if there is or from here on out ever will be a candidate who can administer it.
Now that would be quite a campaign slogan. "Candidate X - the Enema of the People!"
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The Shadow Do Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:13:53am |
Pretty thin line between loon and libertarian.
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itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:14:13am |
re: #27 HoosierHoops
Since I don't watch Beck..What is so special about tonight?
I refuse to watch Beck until he puts on a Clown outfit and honks a bike horn while he is talking...( Oh..He needs really big clown shoes)
/Maybe tonight is night!
A little song,
A little dance,
A little seltzer down his pants.
/Chuckles the clown, Mary Tyler Moore show, c. 1970, Glenn Beck c. 2009
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:14:15am |
re: #146 MikeySDCA
I find Beck so obnoxious that I can't watch him long enough to decide if he's a loon or not.
That's the same way I feel. That stupid Pilsberry dough boy routine is childish. I am thinking about reading his book, I can't stand to watch him to figure him out.
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Dr. Shalit Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:14:20am |
Rush is asking for a "Try Me Now" approach by potential CIA defendants.
Rush, be careful what you wish for, it would be tried in the DC Circuit.
-S-
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Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:14:27am |
re: #136 Sharmuta
Seriously- Frum is the guy more people in the GOP need to listen to. I've flipped through a couple of his books in a book store one afternoon (I was trying to kill time) and he had some great points, and because he's smeared as a RINO!1! no one gives him the time of day.
It's a shame, because he's right.
Frum tends to go against the anti-intellectual grain of the GOP base. Of course going against that grain is a rather easy task since they tend to make judgments on individuals with a hair trigger reaction. Up until recently it was based on what was called a "litmus test" which has now been expanded to include shock radio punditry. Those that won't give Frum the "time of day" will only lose out in the long run.
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:14:39am |
re: #134 Racer X
I was referring to the votes he pulled away from Republicans - it made Bush Sr. a one-timer.
* * * **
Your are right of course. Perot's energy & issues of cleaning out undue lobbyist influence and fixing the government budget drew many votes from Bush Sr.
Bush Sr. ought to have asked Ross Perot to join his campaign or administration, to fight the alligator-shoed lobbyists and to cut the budget.
Bush Sr. seemed out of gas & ideas, and should have embraced Perot's followers.
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Wendya Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:15:01am |
re: #141 Ward Cleaver
Sorry, I meant that a lot of Fox viewers believe everything Beck says, and don't do their own research.
And a lot of ABC/CBS/MSNBC/CNBC/CNN viewers believe everything they hear and don't do their own research.
What else is new?
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cgn38navy Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:15:04am |
re: #130 thedopefishlives
I've seen his show a few times, I missed the crazy. Every time I've seen him on o'reilley he's been good and thought provoking. My point is, we need to stop eating our own. It's okay to disagree, but to categorically dismiss anyone who associates with him is too much.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:15:31am |
re: #154 doppelganglander
Now that would be quite a campaign slogan. "Candidate X - the Enema of the People!"
Or "Enema of the State".
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:15:40am |
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Athos Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:15:46am |
re: #145 buzzsawmonkey
Le Petomane for President! At last, a politician who honestly talks out of his ass!
"I didn't get a harumpf from that guy"
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:15:49am |
re: #154 doppelganglander
Now that would be quite a campaign slogan. "Candidate X - the Enema of the People!"
Though it's close, mine would be, "Candidate X - Enema of the State". All of my intros would have "Public Enemy" playing in the background while my entourage of Idaho Farmboys checked my 6.
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What, me worry? Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:15:57am |
Hey gang! Can't stay too long, but there's been a rumor circulating on the Alaskan blogs that Sarah may be moving to Rhode Island to further her book deal and maybe get a show on FOX. I didn't have time to dig for it at the AK news source, but found it here.
[Link: www.thebostonchannel.com...]
Move to RI? Who knows, but a show on FOX would send the ratings flying and though Beck is bad enough, it would probably put him out of business.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:16:00am |
re: #159 Gus 802
Frum tends to go against the anti-intellectual grain of the GOP base. Of course going against that grain is a rather easy task since they tend to make judgments on individuals with a hair trigger reaction. Up until recently it was based on what was called a "litmus test" which has now been expanded to include shock radio punditry. Those that won't give Frum the "time of day" will only lose out in the long run.
And you'll note it's exactly the anti-intellectuals he targets in that video. The GOP needs to regain their lost college educated voters. The anti-intellectualism that is represented by creationists is killing this party.
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Drider Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:16:01am |
Sarah Palin was right on the money, Beck did have a great walk through of one of the O's radical commie Czars.
Can you even be a Czar if your not a commie?
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:16:40am |
re: #147 turn
Have you read his book? I am thinking about reading it to try and figure out what makes the guy tick.
I read his first two. He is not a dummy. He makes valid points and writes surprisingly well. Where I run into problems with Mr. Beck is his stance on certain issues and his associations with unsavory types. And, I am not very fond of his outlook...he panders to base emotions and exploits situations in a manner that makes me sick. If he could shake all of the kookiness off of himself, he would be a clear voice for reason...but, if he did that, he would not be on TV then, would he?
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:16:50am |
re: #169 Drider
Sarah Palin was right on the money, Beck did have a great walk through of one of the O's radical commie Czars.
Can you even be a Czar if your not a commie?
Commies killed the czar. Hello?
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LGoPs Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:17:11am |
re: #144 unrealizedviewpoint
Notice how when you or anyone critiques Cato's hate spewed screeds, he updings the comment also? He thinks this is a game.
His game is - how much hate can I share today.
He is a child. Physically grown up and with a better vocabulary, but a child nonetheless.
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:18:18am |
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Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:18:20am |
re: #169 Drider
Sarah Palin was right on the money, Beck did have a great walk through of one of the O's radical commie Czars.
Can you even be a Czar if your not a commie?
Yes, the Czars weren't communists. Now a Commissar has to be a commie.
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doubter4444 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:18:24am |
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Baier Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:18:47am |
re: #147 turn
Have you read his book? I am thinking about reading it to try and figure out what makes the guy tick.
He's a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, wrapped in a used diaper. In other words, we may never know, but he smells like shit.
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Dr. Shalit Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:19:06am |
re: #163 BlueCanuck
Or "Enema of the State".
Blue Canuck -
I think that that is the role Glenn Beck has picked for himself.
-S-
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Rexatosis Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:19:08am |
RE: # 74 algerias
Couldn't careless about Harvard, Daddy, or anything like that but I do expect people to be professional and know their stuff 'cuz when the toilet is broke and I need a plumber I want one who can do the job not some shmoe who tells lame jokes and and does an "offal" job 'cuz I don't want to be stuck in the sh*t I want it flushed.
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:19:10am |
re: #173 buzzsawmonkey
I'm assuming that's a quote from Blazing Saddles.
I was referring to the original Le Petomane, the performer who became the toast of Paris by playing tunes with his own flatulence.
A professional farter? You mean all of this time I could have been getting paid? I have lost millions! MILLIONS!!!
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SFGoth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:19:17am |
re: #137 doppelganglander
I know you would make a very stylish First Gentleman.
Ahhh shucks! [blush]
BTW, went to a period-unspecific (but anachronistic) picnic in Saratoga, CA Sunday. We had cuties in Gibson-girl era dresses. I actually did not wear black! Wore brown/dark blue-striped pants, white tux shirt with French cuffs, medium blue double breasted waistcoat (i.e., vest, which was squared off at the waist) and a maroon/gold striped cravat. Well, black boots.
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anotherindyfilmguy Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:19:18am |
re: #174 Desert Dog
Perhaps he was thinking Commissar?
Maybe the O' secretly calls them his favorite bunch of "commieczars"...
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:19:18am |
re: #170 Desert Dog
I read his first two. He is not a dummy. He makes valid points and writes surprisingly well. Where I run into problems with Mr. Beck is his stance on certain issues and his associations with unsavory types. And, I am not very fond of his outlook...he panders to base emotions and exploits situations in a manner that makes me sick. If he could shake all of the kookiness off of himself, he would be a clear voice for reason...but, if he did that, he would not be on TV then, would he?
That was helpful DD, I'm going to read Common Sense then. I know what you mean, if he can't be serious on the show how can people take him seriously.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:19:27am |
re: #23 Sharmuta
Someone else is running the White House, so who is running her?
I mean- it's not like a politician can think and act for themselves- they must have puppet masters! By that logic I ask again- who is hers?
Piper is secretly running the whole show.
/
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kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:19:43am |
re: #144 unrealizedviewpoint
Notice how when you or anyone critiques Cato's hate spewed screeds, he updings the comment also? He thinks this is a game.
His game is - how much hate can I share today.
Dedicated to Cato:
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Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:19:49am |
re: #168 Sharmuta
And you'll note it's exactly the anti-intellectuals he targets in that video. The GOP needs to regain their lost college educated voters. The anti-intellectualism that is represented by creationists is killing this party.
That he does. Now we can expand that list to include the nirthers, deathers, and what I call the Hitlerists (those that tend to apply Godwin's law). Reagan is touted amongst the ideal in recent times. Without the "Reagan Democrats" for example he would not have been elected. Strategically, in the long run, the same applies to garnering the independent voters. Appealing to a "Fox News" base of perhaps 3 million voters is not a winning strategy nor is it one that would bode well for America.
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:19:54am |
re: #183 anotherindyfilmguy
Maybe the O' secretly calls them his favorite bunch of "commieczars"...
Comrade Czar?
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:20:14am |
re: #150 Oh no...Sand People!
All I know is that Washington needs an enema. I just don't know if there is or from here on out ever will be a candidate who can administer it.
* * * *
"When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for ONE PEOPLE to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another...
...whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government..."
(The Constitution says it's OUR job to administer the enema.) ELECTIONs are the enema.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:20:17am |
Anyone read the, "If you give a mouse a cookie" books?
I am working on a, "If you give a communist a country" book.
First line of the book.
"If you give a communist a country, chances are he'll want some people to oppress in it."
It will be so cute!
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:20:26am |
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Racer X Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:20:37am |
re: #160 alegrias
* * * **
Your are right of course. Perot's energy & issues of cleaning out undue lobbyist influence and fixing the government budget drew many votes from Bush Sr.Bush Sr. ought to have asked Ross Perot to join his campaign or administration, to fight the alligator-shoed lobbyists and to cut the budget.
Bush Sr. seemed out of gas & ideas, and should have embraced Perot's followers.
Yeah, except that Perot falsely accused the Bush campaign of threatening to release doctored photos of him and his daughter.
Don't get me wrong I liked Perot - I just thought he was out of his element. He would have made a better cabinet member.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:20:56am |
re: #141 Ward Cleaver
Sorry, I meant that a lot of Fox viewers believe everything Beck says, and don't do their own research.
Is that some kind of way of saying that his viewers are ignorant sheeple?
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:21:00am |
re: #169 Drider
Sarah Palin was right on the money, Beck did have a great walk through of one of the O's radical commie Czars.
There's apparently truth in Becks segment on "Color of Change co-founder Van Jones." Looks like a Marxists to me.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:21:45am |
re: #42 JohnnyReb
Who would be signing the paychecks for these advisor's? She is pretty much broke from the lawsuits she had as governor, and those kind of people do not work for free. I can't imagine anyone from the RNC paying for her advisor's.
Well, SarahPac was raising money for something. Either they're paying the legal bills, or they're paying for something else.
But it needn't be a paid advisor. Could be someone influential she'll listen to, could be someone who thinks s/he can jump on the gravy train.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:21:55am |
OT: The cutest abominations you'll see all day...
Creation of 'three-parent babies' moves closer
The creation of babies with three biological parents has moved closer after a number of monkeys were conceived by a technique that could stop children from inheriting severe genetic diseases.
The birth of the four healthy macaque monkeys offers the strongest evidence yet that DNA can be transplanted safely from one egg to another, to correct genetic defects.
The experiment suggests that it should soon be possible to use the method to help women who carry certain genetic disorders to avoid passing them on to their children.
Science!
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:22:13am |
re: #182 SFGoth
Ahhh shucks! [blush]
BTW, went to a period-unspecific (but anachronistic) picnic in Saratoga, CA Sunday. We had cuties in Gibson-girl era dresses. I actually did not wear black! Wore brown/dark blue-striped pants, white tux shirt with French cuffs, medium blue double breasted waistcoat (i.e., vest, which was squared off at the waist) and a maroon/gold striped cravat. Well, black boots.
And to think I put all my money into an XBOX 360...
/just joshing ya... live and let live.
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LGoPs Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:22:17am |
re: #162 cgn38navy
I've seen his show a few times, I missed the crazy. Every time I've seen him on o'reilley he's been good and thought provoking. My point is, we need to stop eating our own. It's okay to disagree, but to categorically dismiss anyone who associates with him is too much.
I agree. Trashing him seems to be a bandwagon effect here and I've never been big on bandwagons.
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:22:17am |
re: #182 SFGoth
Hey SF, do you mind posting another link to your picture site? That was neat seeing all those people dressed up in vintage garb.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:22:26am |
re: #144 unrealizedviewpoint
Notice how when you or anyone critiques Cato's hate spewed screeds, he updings the comment also? He thinks this is a game.
His game is - how much hate can I share today.
Funny thing is, when a thread with this topic goes up, there seems to be enough snark against Palin, more than enough to go around.
Yet when Cato gets into the mix, everyone get a little upset. Why? The only difference I see is Cato is more clever in his snark.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:22:28am |
re: #149 CommonCents
Shakedown, the new way. Not that I would advertise on Beck's program (if I had something to sell) but I wouldn't boycott because the
Rainbow CoalitionColor of Change group "asked" me not to.
I just found that story from the LAT yesterday and it really has helped me open my eyes about CoC.
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Dr. Shalit Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:22:36am |
re: #176 doubter4444
What does that mean?
doubter -
Last I heard, Sen. Kennedy just died. Perhaps a time to dial back a notch for a few days.
-S-
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:22:47am |
re: #151 ladycatnip
#115 alegrias
I agree with the heroic part of Ross Perot, but didn't he go off the rails at the end, saying people were after his daughter and such? I have only a dim recollection, but what I do remember is how shocked I was that he'd be saying that stuff. It seemed out of character.
* * * *
There's no doubt media got to him & his family. Oddly enough it's hands off the Kennedy, Clinton & Obama children.
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SpaceJesus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:23:11am |
who is running white house? bear is running white house!
how can that be?
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:23:45am |
re: #206 SpaceJesus
who is running white house? bear is running white house!
how can that be?
Three-martini lunch today?
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Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:23:55am |
re: #162 cgn38navy
I've seen his show a few times, I missed the crazy. Every time I've seen him on o'reilley he's been good and thought provoking. My point is, we need to stop eating our own. It's okay to disagree, but to categorically dismiss anyone who associates with him is too much.
Our own?
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:23:57am |
re: #200 LGoPs
I agree. Trashing him seems to be a bandwagon effect here and I've never been big on bandwagons.
What about bandstands or band shells?/
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:23:57am |
re: #194 unrealizedviewpoint
There's apparently truth in Becks segment on "Color of Change co-founder Van Jones." Looks like a Marxists to me.
Van Jones is a radical and is just the sort of adviser that those of us who saw what Obama really stood for warned about. Just because Glenn Beck says so, it's not reason to ignore this fact. Obama has surrounded himself with the most radical group in our history. And, judging by his direction, he is listening to those advisers.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:24:02am |
re: #174 Desert Dog
Perhaps he was thinking Commissar?
Don't come around, uh oh
The Commissar's in town, uh oh
{flashback}
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kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:24:03am |
re: #202 Walter L. Newton
Funny thing is, when a thread with this topic goes up, there seems to be enough snark against Palin, more than enough to go around.
Yet when Cato gets into the mix, everyone get a little upset. Why? The only difference I see is Cato is more clever in his snark.
At least his clever snark is relevant for the thread.
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Baier Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:24:20am |
re: #207 MandyManners
Three-martini lunch today?
I'm jealous...Tuscan bean soup here...completely devoid of alcohol.
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Racer X Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:24:22am |
Admit it Cato - you've got a serious crush on Sarah.
Cato and Sarah
Sitting in a tree
K I S S I N G
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:24:36am |
re: #207 MandyManners
Three-martini lunch today?
I hope AZ. keeps SpaceJesus and it never comes back to Colorado.
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:24:52am |
re: #197 buzzsawmonkey
Without Ed Sullivan to provide a venue, it might have been difficult to get bookings. On the other hand, you could simultaneously perform on Letterman and comment on his monologue.
I'll keep rehearsing then...Poor Mrs. Desert Dog...One day, I'll hit it big and make it all worth it!
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:25:37am |
re: #97 SFGoth
I'm still holding out hope for a conservatarian, black lesbian who looks Grace Jones, recites the Bill of Rights every night before bed, hates taxes, can debate the merits of the 3-4 v. the 4-3, and won't take shit from any "debate" questioner who throws her a loaded one. Oh, and her VEEP is Giuliani because he's the one who wears the dress. ;->
If she'll speak at the RNC in black leather pants, you may have the candidate who will pry me away from the Democrats.
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historyrider Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:25:43am |
Anyone seen this?
The Colorado Democratic Party chairwoman had blamed the vandalism on the "contentious" health care debate saying, ""Clearly there's been an effort on the other side to stir up hate. I think this is the consequence of it."
***
Update: Democrat Official Very Wrong About Who Vandalized Colorado Party HQ
[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]
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SFGoth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:25:52am |
re: #201 turn
Hey SF, do you mind posting another link to your picture site? That was neat seeing all those people dressed up in vintage garb.
Not quite sure what I had posted -- I don't personally have a blog or maintain my own pix (I actually dislike being photographed) -- but here's the blog for the event I was at. [Link: lepeekneek.blogspot.com...]
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:26:35am |
re: #212 kansas
At least his clever snark is relevant for the thread.
Most of the time when Cato is getting dumped on for his Palin snark on aother threads, it's not because he is off-topic, it's becuase he is doing it.
Yet, like I say, there is enough anti-Palin snark going on here, this thread, right now. I don't see the difference?
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:27:05am |
re: #220 SFGoth
Not quite sure what I had posted -- I don't personally have a blog or maintain my own pix (I actually dislike being photographed) -- but here's the blog for the event I was at. [Link: lepeekneek.blogspot.com...]
Thanks, I'l check it out before I have to get back to work.
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wrenchwench Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:27:16am |
re: #216 Walter L. Newton
I hope AZ. keeps SpaceJesus and it never comes back to Colorado.
NM! We have him in NM!
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:27:28am |
re: #147 turn
Have you read his book? I am thinking about reading it to try and figure out what makes the guy the
tTick.
Because he's big, blue and somewhat dim.
Spoon!/
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:27:34am |
re: #202 Walter L. Newton
Funny thing is, when a thread with this topic goes up, there seems to be enough snark against Palin, more than enough to go around.
Yet when Cato gets into the mix, everyone get a little upset. Why? The only difference I see is Cato is more clever in his snark.
Well, thank you, Walter.
People think calling Obama "FCBBHO" is clever, but I get bashed for pointing out that Palin uses her Down Syndrome child to spread vicious political lies, which is the simple truth.
She has about as much credibility as Pat Buchanan, without the brains.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:27:52am |
re: #203 MandyManners
I just found that story from the LAT yesterday and it really has helped me open my eyes about CoC.
CoC has the CinC's ear. Of course it's easy to hang on to with handle bars like that.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:27:56am |
re: #221 Walter L. Newton
Oh yes, he's clever in his snark. Why does he have to share it with us all the bloody time?
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:28:02am |
I love how Palin threads turn into Cato threads. He might start it, but you guys feed it.
Just sayin'.
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:28:10am |
re: #220 SFGoth
Not quite sure what I had posted -- I don't personally have a blog or maintain my own pix (I actually dislike being photographed) -- but here's the blog for the event I was at. [Link: lepeekneek.blogspot.com...]
Where do you find those outfits? Are they expensive? Are they reproductions or actually very old?
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opnion Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:28:30am |
re: #210 Desert Dog
Van Jones is a radical and is just the sort of adviser that those of us who saw what Obama really stood for warned about. Just because Glenn Beck says so, it's not reason to ignore this fact. Obama has surrounded himself with the most radical group in our history. And, judging by his direction, he is listening to those advisers.
There are really too many Czars, it reeks of shadow government.
Van Jones describes himslef as a Communist, that should seal it &
there is no way that Obama was not aware.
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Racer X Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:28:54am |
re: #229 Sharmuta
I love how Palin threads turn into Cato threads. He might start it, but you guys feed it.
Just sayin'.
He's in love. Sad really.
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:28:57am |
re: #224 calcajun
Because he's big, blue and somewhat dim.
Spoon!/
If you are trying to start a tick pun that really sucks.
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eschew_obfuscation Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:29:11am |
re: #211 CommonCents
Don't come around, uh oh
The Commissar's in town, uh oh
{flashback}
Alles klaar, herr kommissar...
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:29:36am |
re: #233 turn
If you are trying to start a tick pun that really sucks.
I'm a midnight bomber what bombs at midnight!
(LOVE the Tick)
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:29:37am |
re: #233 turn
If you are trying to start a tick pun that really sucks.
Getting under your skin, am I?
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Drider Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:29:45am |
re: #171 Sharmuta
Eh, whatever, all I know is that Beck once again gave folks a clear picture of what Obama is surrounding himself with and "his" czar is a commie.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:30:09am |
re: #225 Cato the Elder
Well, thank you, Walter.
People think calling Obama "FCBBHO" is clever, but I get bashed for pointing out that Palin uses her Down Syndrome child to spread vicious political lies, which is the simple truth.
She has about as much credibility as Pat Buchanan, without the brains.
Cato, in this issue, I am not so much supporting you as I am simply pointing something out.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:30:38am |
re: #238 Walter L. Newton
Cato, in this issue, I am not so much supporting you as I am simply pointing something out.
I know. You're honest.
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:30:53am |
re: #192 Racer X
Yeah, except that Perot falsely accused the Bush campaign of threatening to release doctored photos of him and his daughter.
Don't get me wrong I liked Perot - I just thought he was out of his element. He would have made a better cabinet member.
* * * *
When fanatic political operatives target candidates families, as happened between Bush & the McCain campaigns in South Carolina's 2000 primary, it is ugly for all concerned. McCain's Bangladeshi daughter adopted from Mother Teresa's orphanage somehow became a political football to everyone's disgust.
It's always gross.
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doubter4444 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:30:54am |
re: #66 Racer X
Links from Huffpo and KOS = Good
Watching Fox = Bad
I don't get it?
I do get that Beck is a clown and a drama queen. I get that. But he does make (on occasion) points that make me go 'hmmm'. I have serious concerns with what is going on with the current administration. I'm going to continue to look at what others are saying, then make up my own mind as to what is bullshit.
It's all black and white.
That's OK, it's much easier that way.
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Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:31:34am |
re: #162 cgn38navy
I've seen his show a few times, I missed the crazy. Every time I've seen him on o'reilley he's been good and thought provoking. My point is, we need to stop eating our own. It's okay to disagree, but to categorically dismiss anyone who associates with him is too much.
Ok...Think about this a second...
We are suppose to be the party of the grownups...Remember the grownups are in charge?
I'll be damn if I will follow a fucking clown on the airwaves..He can cry..Say over the top crap...Go off the rails..acts like a rightwing version of the moonbats.
No thanks...If the GOP comes back into power it won't be because of the childish Beck
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:31:35am |
re: #182 SFGoth
Ahhh shucks! [blush]
BTW, went to a period-unspecific (but anachronistic) picnic in Saratoga, CA Sunday. We had cuties in Gibson-girl era dresses. I actually did not wear black! Wore brown/dark blue-striped pants, white tux shirt with French cuffs, medium blue double breasted waistcoat (i.e., vest, which was squared off at the waist) and a maroon/gold striped cravat. Well, black boots.
That sounds gorgeous. I am going to a certain well-known, Atlanta-based sci fi/fantasy/pop culture convention next weekend. There's a new Alternate History track (time travel, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, that sort of thing). I got a rather plain Jane late Victorian skirt and blouse. It's no where near authentic - there is polyester involved - but it's pretty cute and didn't bust the budget. If I really get into it, I'd like something nicer for next year.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:31:45am |
I do have to retract one thing I said (though in jest) on another thread.
Palin's not a hoe.
She's a pimp.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:32:04am |
re: #213 Baier
I'm jealous...Tuscan bean soup here...completely devoid of alcohol.
I'll refrain from making any reference to Blazing Saddles.
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cgn38navy Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:32:13am |
re: #143 wrenchwench
I like some of the things he says, yes. Shoot me for having an open mind. He didn't have good answers for everything. I was Giuliani guy until he gave his endorsement to McCain. I was not a fan of his candidacy, I think Charles put up enough proof to convince me that Ron Paul had a bit of an unsavory underbelly.
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kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:32:30am |
re: #245 Cato the Elder
I do have to retract one thing I said (though in jest) on another thread.
Palin's not a hoe.
She's a pimp.
That thread was not about Palin. This one is.
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:32:31am |
re: #236 calcajun
Getting under your skin, am I?
You are so blood thirsty to out pun turn, it makes me crawl.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:33:05am |
re: #210 Desert Dog
Van Jones is a radical and is just the sort of adviser that those of us who saw what Obama really stood for warned about. Just because Glenn Beck says so, it's not reason to ignore this fact. Obama has surrounded himself with the most radical group in our history. And, judging by his direction, he is listening to those advisers.
Since he seems to be the only one (at present) working this, I'm watching.
*Cringing the whole time.*
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:33:06am |
re: #217 Desert Dog
I'll keep rehearsing then...Poor Mrs. Desert Dog...One day, I'll hit it big and make it all worth it!
You'll have to compete with Britain's Mr. Methane.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:34:05am |
re: #248 kansas
That thread was not about Palin. This one is.
I'll remind you of that next time you go off topic, anywhere, about anything.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:34:08am |
re: #216 Walter L. Newton
I hope AZ. keeps SpaceJesus and it never comes back to Colorado.
You're at a high-enough altitude to keep your air pure.
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SFGoth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:34:19am |
re: #230 turn
Where do you find those outfits? Are they expensive? Are they reproductions or actually very old?
A lot of the girls make their own, actually. GBACG.org (?) The guys mostly buy stuff on line, which isn't that expensive really - less overhead than a brick & mortar place, for instance. Some people do have authentic old garb, but rarely wear them outside. Some costumers take real photos or paintings and try to reproduce the clothes.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:34:32am |
re: #227 CommonCents
CoC has the CinC's ear. Of course it's easy to hang on to with handle bars like that.
Right over the edge of the cliff.
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:34:59am |
re: #220 SFGoth
Not quite sure what I had posted -- I don't personally have a blog or maintain my own pix (I actually dislike being photographed) -- but here's the blog for the event I was at. [Link: lepeekneek.blogspot.com...]
Looks like fun. It's too hot around here to dress up like that in the summer.
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doubter4444 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:35:17am |
re: #72 Cato the Elder
The ugliness comes from Sarah.
I have to agree with this sentiment.
She's a rabble rouser and a charlatan. That she was lionized by a segment of the right and can still do no wrong to many is depressing. The veneer is very, very thin and you can see the ugliness inside pretty easily.
For this woman to have been picked to be VPOUTUS was a disgrace.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:35:21am |
re: #233 turn
If you are trying to start a tick pun that really sucks.
Not in the face! Not in the face!
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:35:25am |
re: #229 Sharmuta
I love how Palin threads turn into Cato threads. He might start it, but you guys feed it.
Just sayin'.
Disengagement is a beautiful thing.
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:35:30am |
re: #252 buzzsawmonkey
I was thinking of a "Dune" riff with Emperor BHO and his Czardukar Stormtroopers. A germ of an idea really.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:35:35am |
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SFGoth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:35:47am |
re: #243 doppelganglander
That sounds gorgeous. I am going to a certain well-known, Atlanta-based sci fi/fantasy/pop culture convention next weekend. There's a new Alternate History track (time travel, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, that sort of thing). I got a rather plain Jane late Victorian skirt and blouse. It's no where near authentic - there is polyester involved - but it's pretty cute and didn't bust the budget. If I really get into it, I'd like something nicer for next year.
I know the one you're talking about. "Alternate History track (time travel, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, that sort of thing" -- look up "steampunk", that's the term for the genre.
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kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:36:08am |
re: #210 Desert Dog
Van Jones is a radical and is just the sort of adviser that those of us who saw what Obama really stood for warned about. Just because Glenn Beck says so, it's not reason to ignore this fact. Obama has surrounded himself with the most radical group in our history. And, judging by his direction, he is listening to those advisers.
Unfortunately it is precisely because Beck says it that whatever truth there may be to it is certainly diluted. Talk radio cried wolf for years. Now that the wolf is here, who believes it? Beck is probably good for Obama getting positive points in the polls.
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:36:09am |
re: #255 SFGoth
It looks like everybody really has a blast at those outings. The link you put up some time ago were sepia filter pictures. Have fun!
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Athos Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:36:21am |
re: #231 opnion
There are really too many Czars, it reeks of shadow government.
Van Jones describes himslef as a Communist, that should seal it &
there is no way that Obama was not aware.
I agree that the number of czars is an issue. If he wants these people to be advisors, employed within his WH, then that is a repercussion of the election...but to put these people in positions of authority and to do so without Senate advise and consent does raise legitimate questions.
Far too many people during 2007-8 did too little to evaluate what the President stood for and his closest advisors - they were captured by the 'Not Bush' and 'Change' memes. Now he is setting policy and direction or using these people to set policy and direction while he continues his campaign efforts and there will be an electoral ramification in 2010 and 2012 as people continue to lose trust in him.
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wrenchwench Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:36:40am |
re: #247 cgn38navy
I like some of the things he says, yes. Shoot me for having an open mind. He didn't have good answers for everything. I was Giuliani guy until he gave his endorsement to McCain. I was not a fan of his candidacy, I think Charles put up enough proof to convince me that Ron Paul had a bit of an unsavory underbelly.
Liking some of the things he says is fine. Supporting him in any way is not (in my opinion) because he also says things that are not ok.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:36:42am |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:36:56am |
re: #248 kansas
That thread was not about Palin. This one is.
But he is right, she is a pimp. I read it.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:37:37am |
re: #256 MandyManners
Right over the edge of the cliff.
Color of Change had the Commander in Chiefs ear. Handle bar reference was to those enormous antennas on O's head.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:37:38am |
re: #255 SFGoth
I recently finished watching the second season of HBO's Deadwood. That show had some amazing costumes/dress. I wonder where if they found all of those old clothes or made them.
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esch Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:37:50am |
re: #263 SFGoth
I know the one you're talking about. "Alternate History track (time travel, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, that sort of thing" -- look up "steampunk", that's the term for the genre.
It's interesting that Warehouse 13 (shameless plug) has been coopting some of that genre feel.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:37:57am |
re: #270 buzzsawmonkey
I don't know Dune. I was working off my recollection of the theme from the old Disney "Zorro" show.
You never saw the movie "High Dune?"
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:38:15am |
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:38:22am |
re: #263 SFGoth
I know the one you're talking about. "Alternate History track (time travel, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, that sort of thing" -- look up "steampunk", that's the term for the genre.
Exactly. I need some brass trimmed goggles, but I can't figure out a way to wear them with my glasses. Maybe I'll settle for a pocket watch.
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SFGoth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:38:31am |
re: #265 turn
It looks like everybody really has a blast at those outings. The link you put up some time ago were sepia filter pictures. Have fun!
How can you not have fun when everyone's dressed up :ubersexlich? The real fun is playing around in mid-18th or 19th century stuff. Oh wait, this is a public site. Sorry... ;->
This is so much more fun than the dismal future of our country under either mainstream party. It may be turtles all the way down, but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy the ride.
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:38:36am |
re: #264 kansas
Unfortunately it is precisely because Beck says it that whatever truth there may be to it is certainly diluted. Talk radio cried wolf for years. Now that the wolf is here, who believes it? Beck is probably good for Obama getting positive points in the polls.
Talk Radio also slapped politicians with the truth every once in a while too. IMHO, Glenn Beck is doing this now more so because they are coming after him, not because of his "civic duty". Mr. Beck is a polarizer, but so is Pres. Obama.
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The Shadow Do Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:39:09am |
re: #219 historyrider
Anyone seen this?
The Colorado Democratic Party chairwoman had blamed the vandalism on the "contentious" health care debate saying, ""Clearly there's been an effort on the other side to stir up hate. I think this is the consequence of it."
***
Update: Democrat Official Very Wrong About Who Vandalized Colorado Party HQ[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]
Good catch. Don't look for this story to go any further than your post however.
/I'm thinking the poor young fellow was a victim of an abusive Republican father and that a little empathy for his unfortunate acting out is in order here.
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:39:24am |
re: #270 buzzsawmonkey
I know-- Guy Williams aka Armando Joseph Catalano -- a man's man.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:39:41am |
re: #245 Cato the Elder
I do have to retract one thing I said (though in jest) on another thread.
Palin's not a hoe.
She's a pimp.
ROTFLMAO
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kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:39:45am |
re: #253 Cato the Elder
I'll remind you of that next time you go off topic, anywhere, about anything.
It's just not off topic, Cato, it's turning every thread into the same topic.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:39:54am |
re: #273 Mad Al-Jaffee
I recently finished watching the second season of HBO's Deadwood. That show had some amazing costumes/dress. I wonder where if they found all of those old clothes or made them.
I was upset when they took it off the air. Great show.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:40:20am |
re: #272 CommonCents
Color of Change had the Commander in Chiefs ear. Handle bar reference was to those enormous antennas on O's head.
Those antennae are tone-deaf.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:40:25am |
re: #276 turn
Ok, I"ll bite. huh? oh, nervous tick maybe
I'll post one after I finish the lyme soda I'm drinking.
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:40:32am |
re: #262 Oh no...Sand People!
Are one of those characters "the tick"?
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:40:43am |
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:40:51am |
re: #283 kansas
It's just not off topic, Cato, it's turning every thread into the same topic.
Every thread turns into something else.
When Biden stops coming up as a topic in non-Biden threads, I'll lay off Scarab.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:41:08am |
Quite a few people just don't seem to care that Glenn Beck promotes conspiracy theories, the John Birch Society, End Times, creationism, and wackos like Ron Paul. Why is that? Are these supposed to be "conservative" principles?
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esch Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:41:14am |
re: #285 calcajun
I so dislike that show.
Sorry to hear that. I hate 99% of what's on tv/cable, so I take what quirky stuff I can get.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:41:28am |
re: #283 kansas
It's just not off topic, Cato, it's turning every thread into the same topic.
he doesn't do that, others do it for him...scroll by it
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:41:41am |
re: #284 Creeping Eruption
I was upset when they took it off the air. Great show.
I have season 3 to look forward to. I should get the first disc tonight.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:41:44am |
re: #286 MandyManners
Those antennae are tone-deaf.
I didn't say they worked. It's like those massive satellite dishes people had in their yards back in the 80's. Just because they are huge doesn't mean they work better.
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:41:48am |
re: #263 SFGoth
I know the one you're talking about. "Alternate History track (time travel, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, that sort of thing" -- look up "steampunk", that's the term for the genre.
steampunk, ha the stuff I learn at LGF
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:41:52am |
Beck and Palin are what's wrong with the right. You cannot expect to win elections when you alienate the educated. The right has traditionally valued folk wisdom, and I'm not going to suggest we shun it, but we do seem to consider the educated to be elitists, which isn't always true. If the GOP is going to pander to anti-intellectuals, they should be fully prepared to remain in the electoral wilderness.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:42:05am |
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:42:16am |
re: #292 Charles
Quite a few people just don't seem to care that Glenn Beck promotes conspiracy theories, the John Birch Society, End Times, creationism, and wackos like Ron Paul. Why is that?
And quite a few people seem to think it's OK for Palin to pimp that pimp.
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Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:42:23am |
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wee fury Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:42:39am |
re: #293 esch
Sorry to hear that. I hate 99% of what's on tv/cable, so I take what quirky stuff I can get.
I like it. I also like Torchwood on BBC.
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wrenchwench Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:42:49am |
re: #292 Charles
Quite a few people just don't seem to care that Glenn Beck promotes conspiracy theories, the John Birch Society, End Times, creationism, and wackos like Ron Paul. Why is that?
Some people think that's not a bug, it's a feature.
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:43:16am |
re: #293 esch
I do like Eureka, though. More real sci-fi on that show than on most of the network.
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:43:20am |
re: #271 HelloDare
heh #2 mary jo kopechne. I wonder how many people are just learning about that for the first time.
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:43:36am |
re: #250 unrealizedviewpoint
Since he seems to be the only one (at present) working this, I'm watching.
*Cringing the whole time.*
* * * *
Like the National Enquirer's reporting on John Edwards' strange behavior in California hotel toilets--who's laughing now?
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esch Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:43:38am |
re: #303 wee fury
I like it. I also like Torchwood on BBC.
I keep meaning to check that one out. I'll have to do it now.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:43:50am |
re: #289 turn
Are one of those characters "the tick"?
Yeah, the big blue one...
"Spoon" is his battlecry...
I thought someone upthread was starting a 'The Tick' OT / Pun thingy...but I take it you have never seen it...I highly recommend the cartoon. Hilarious.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:43:58am |
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:44:04am |
re: #292 Charles
Quite a few people just don't seem to care that Glenn Beck promotes conspiracy theories, the John Birch Society, End Times, creationism, and wackos like Ron Paul. Why is that? Are these supposed to be "conservative" principles?
A lot of what I'm seeing here is that people agree he goes off the rails, but some also see/hear something that makes them think. I don't think they tell their children to grow up and be just like Glenn.
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kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:44:15am |
re: #294 albusteve
he doesn't do that, others do it for him...scroll by it
My getting on Cato for hating on Sarah Palin is getting old. I'm gonna stop now.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:44:22am |
re: #292 Charles
Quite a few people just don't seem to care that Glenn Beck promotes conspiracy theories, the John Birch Society, End Times, creationism, and wackos like Ron Paul. Why is that? Are these supposed to be "conservative" principles?
Goldwater and Buckley are spinning in their graves.
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soxfan4life Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:44:25am |
re: #292 Charles
Quite a few people just don't seem to care that Glenn Beck promotes conspiracy theories, the John Birch Society, End Times, creationism, and wackos like Ron Paul. Why is that?
When Beck was on HLN I used to like to catch his show. Not real impressed with his Fox show, so he can promote whatever he likes I'm not watching. And if a politician is willing to show the backbone and make the same stand that would be a big plus for them. Maybe go on O'Reilly or Hannity but say no to Beck.
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Athos Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:44:28am |
re: #273 Mad Al-Jaffee
I recently finished watching the second season of HBO's Deadwood. That show had some amazing costumes/dress. I wonder where if they found all of those old clothes or made them.
The neighboring town to me has an annual cowboy festival that is hosted at Melody Ranch - where Deadwood was filmed. While the show was in production, the all of the props for Deadwood were in place and some of the stars / many of the extras would be there for the event. Many attendees wear period clothing...and make their own for the event. (This area has a strong history around Hollywood westerns dating back to William S Hart and Harry Carey.)
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:44:39am |
re: #279 Desert Dog
Talk Radio also slapped politicians with the truth every once in a while too. IMHO, Glenn Beck is doing this now more so because they are coming after him, not because of his "civic duty".
The attacked retaliates. hmmm.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:44:44am |
re: #309 Oh no...Sand People!
Yeah, the big blue one...
"Spoon" is his battlecry...
I thought someone upthread was starting a 'The Tick' OT / Pun thingy...but I take it you have never seen it...I highly recommend the cartoon. Hilarious.
The live action show was pretty good too. Only lasted about one season.
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SFGoth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:44:51am |
I'm going to a "Space Cowboys ball" 9/4 based on the show Firefly. Sort of Victorian sci-fi. Should be interesting. There'll be way too many Kayla's for my taste, but as long as they're cute... To make this topical, while most costumers/period dancers/etc., in this area are liberal, I do have the pleasure of meeting the occasional libertarian or conservative. :->
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:44:54am |
re: #288 buzzsawmonkey
When my daughter was a teenager, she volunteered at the local history museum. She was invited to be in a fashion show of vintage dresses in their collection, primarily because she is very tiny. Even so, the dress was a bit snug.
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HelloDare Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:45:23am |
re: #306 turn
heh #2 mary jo kopechne. I wonder how many people are just learning about that for the first time.
7. kfc new sandwich
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albusteve Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:45:44am |
re: #292 Charles
Quite a few people just don't seem to care that Glenn Beck promotes conspiracy theories, the John Birch Society, End Times, creationism, and wackos like Ron Paul. Why is that?
from what I gather it's because once in a while he sheds honest light on some current topic...so what?...as far as I'm concerned just checking in to see what he's saying supports his numbers and therefore FOX...I won't have anything to do with either...somebody has to watch him, but not me
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Athos Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:45:50am |
re: #292 Charles
IMHO, no, they are not conservative principles.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:46:21am |
re: #314 soxfan4life
When Beck was on HLN I used to like to catch his show. Not real impressed with his Fox show, so he can promote whatever he likes I'm not watching. And if a politician is willing to show the backbone and make the same stand that would be a big plus for them. Maybe go on O'Reilly or Hannity but say no to Beck.
That's part of the problem too. hannity has people like pat buchanan on his show, and o'reilly is the gold standard for hot headed mindlessness.
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Wendya Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:46:23am |
re: #292 Charles
Quite a few people just don't seem to care that Glenn Beck promotes conspiracy theories, the John Birch Society, End Times, creationism, and wackos like Ron Paul. Why is that? Are these supposed to be "conservative" principles?
I don't care for the same reason I don't care what Olbermann or Maddow are saying on their shows. I don't watch them and they aren't the official voices of the RNC or DNC.
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Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:46:24am |
re: #309 Oh no...Sand People!
Yeah, the big blue one...
"Spoon" is his battlecry...
I thought someone upthread was starting a 'The Tick' OT / Pun thingy...but I take it you have never seen it...I highly recommend the cartoon. Hilarious.
Apocalypse Cow was the greatest. A giant mutant cow which shot fire from its udders
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:46:26am |
re: #278 SFGoth
kewl, you explained taking the clothes off at the end of the gig is funner than putting them on :.)
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BlueCanuck Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:46:44am |
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:46:48am |
re: #318 SFGoth
I'm going to a "Space Cowboys ball" 9/4 based on the show Firefly. Sort of Victorian sci-fi. Should be interesting. There'll be way too many Kayla's for my taste, but as long as they're cute... To make this topical, while most costumers/period dancers/etc., in this area are liberal, I do have the pleasure of meeting the occasional libertarian or conservative. :->
I would go as Inara. Much more fun.
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Danny Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:46:49am |
re: #292 Charles
Quite a few people just don't seem to care that Glenn Beck promotes conspiracy theories, the John Birch Society, End Times, creationism, and wackos like Ron Paul. Why is that? Are these supposed to be "conservative" principles?
There are many "conservative" principles, some good, some bad. Each of these people or concepts embrace one or more of them.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:46:56am |
This was too rich not to repost:
Funny how you two grackles can't keep the AGW-hysteria separate from creationism, in every thread. Wonder why that is.
Because you talk just like a creationist.
Because you refuse to see facts and data just like a creationist.
Because you pose supernatural causes for the science just like a creationist (only this time, Al Gore is Satan, rather than the old fashioned one).
Because you parade out discredited cranks as great scientists just like Behe gets trotted out by the creationists.
Because you quote mine and cherry pick just like creationists.
Because you lie and distort just like creationists.
Because you don't know high school science, let alone sufficient science to address what you are talking about just like a creationist.
Because you feel persecuted by some scientific conspiracy, just like a creationist.
Because no matter how much evidence we throw at you, beg you to look at, or patiently explain to you, you still refuse to process what it means just like a creationist.
Because you actually believe that the scientists are somehow evil and out to get you, just like a creationist.
Other than that there are no major similarities that spring directly to mind.
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doubter4444 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:46:58am |
re: #101 Oh no...Sand People!
I believe it is his 'pre-emptive condescension', before he goes all 'crazy talk' he is able to diffuse the audience by saying something along the lines of "I hope I am wrong / I am a recovering alcoholic / I may be completely off my rocker' etc... in the world of 'image is everything' having someone who can admit and own up to flaws is very appealing and I would go as far as refreshing. So those of us who are flawed can relate to the guy and say, wow, I really think he is approachable and could sit down and have a real chat without being brow beat or judged. Just my 2 cents.
Yeah, but that's fake. You know that right?
He's not really hoping he's wrong and all that... right?
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:47:21am |
re: #292 Charles
Quite a few people just don't seem to care that Glenn Beck promotes conspiracy theories, the John Birch Society, End Times, creationism, and wackos like Ron Paul. Why is that?
Star power. The media wing of the Republican party has fully emerged as a player in and of itself.
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Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:47:34am |
re: #131 Dr. Shalit
Desert Dog -
I look at it this way. Every President has had a "Kitchen Cabinet" of UN-OFFICIAL Advisers, an old friend, a home state politico, etc. Some of these people have had huge effect on policy, some have perhaps been unable to get security clearances, or be confirmed by Congress to a Cabinet Post.
Those folks served more or less "pro-bono" and had no direct "line authority" in the Federal Government.
Pres. Obama's "innovation" is to bring such people "in house" - pay them - and give them "line authority." IMHO - Not a Good Idea.-S-
Missile Defense came from Ronald Reagan's Kitchen Cabinet. Jerry Pournelle and co.
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Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:47:38am |
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:47:41am |
re: #287 Mad Al-Jaffee
I'll post one after I finish the lyme soda I'm drinking.
Careful, you swell up if you drink too much.
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soxfan4life Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:47:46am |
re: #321 albusteve
from what I gather it's because once in a while he sheds honest light on some current topic...so what?...as far as I'm concerned just checking in to see what he's saying supports his numbers and therefore FOX...I won't have anything to do with either...somebody has to watch him, but not me
Lots of people are watching, that's the problem. If Beck and his type would go silent we could get over all of this nirther BS and concentrate on winning back control of the House and Senate, then worry about the WhiteHouse.
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The Shadow Do Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:47:55am |
Ironic isn't it that Beck is admired by many for discrediting the left, when the fact is he discredits only the right?
I know the irony is lost on some here. Sad.
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SFGoth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:47:56am |
re: #319 doppelganglander
When my daughter was a teenager, she volunteered at the local history museum. She was invited to be in a fashion show of vintage dresses in their collection, primarily because she is very tiny. Even so, the dress was a bit snug.
Probably because she wasn't wearing a corset. That would solve the problem.
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Wendya Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:48:16am |
re: #313 Sharmuta
Goldwater and Buckley are spinning in their graves.
The problem isn't Beck, it's the inability of the republicans to define themselves after the last two elections. The republican leadership has left a vacuum and it will be filled.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:48:19am |
re: #292 Charles
Quite a few people just don't seem to care that Glenn Beck promotes conspiracy theories, the John Birch Society, End Times, creationism, and wackos like Ron Paul. Why is that? Are these supposed to be "conservative" principles?
Of course not. Other than anti-scientific, anti-semitic insanity, I don't know how to categorize them.
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opnion Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:48:22am |
re: #266 Athos
I agree that the number of czars is an issue. If he wants these people to be advisors, employed within his WH, then that is a repercussion of the election...but to put these people in positions of authority and to do so without Senate advise and consent does raise legitimate questions.
Far too many people during 2007-8 did too little to evaluate what the President stood for and his closest advisors - they were captured by the 'Not Bush' and 'Change' memes. Now he is setting policy and direction or using these people to set policy and direction while he continues his campaign efforts and there will be an electoral ramification in 2010 and 2012 as people continue to lose trust in him.
I think that the Dear Leader is overplaying his hand. Independents are turning against him & that could make him a one termer.
As for me, none of this surprises me, he is so he said he is in both memoirs, speeches & associations.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:48:40am |
re: #296 CommonCents
I didn't say they worked. It's like those massive satellite dishes people had in their yards back in the 80's. Just because they are huge doesn't mean they work better.
I'm just gonna' refrain.
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SFGoth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:48:44am |
re: #326 turn
kewl, you explained taking the clothes off at the end of the gig is funner than putting them on :.)
You don't have to take them off...
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loudguitars Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:49:22am |
I think G Beck is over the top with the Hitler analogies. Sounds familiar (Dick Durbin, Olberman, Howard Dean etc.)
But, has anyone refuted the information that he has presented this week about the CZARS? I found his program (this week) must see TV in regards to who "O" has appointed to Czar positions and who had input on recent administration legislation.
It appears that the president has surrounded himself with a group of crooked union thugs , former self professed communists, discredited environmentalist whackos, and scary leftist radicals. If you can dispute this, please do. Beck seems a little unbalanced, but if this info is correct, he is doing the country a service in pointing out these facts.
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Mad Mullah Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:49:53am |
re: #298 Sharmuta
You cannot expect to win elections when you alienate the educated. .
I'm going to play devil's advocate here for a moment.
Why not? It worked wonders for Obama.
And as far as being radical or having connections to extremists, that never hurt the person who did in fact get elected.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:50:05am |
re: #292 Charles
Quite a few people just don't seem to care that Glenn Beck promotes conspiracy theories, the John Birch Society, End Times, creationism, and wackos like Ron Paul. Why is that? Are these supposed to be "conservative" principles?
I removed Beck from my DVR queue long ago. He's back for this week. What he's presenting is just too important to ignore.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:50:16am |
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kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:50:39am |
re: #344 loudguitars
I think G Beck is over the top with the Hitler analogies. Sounds familiar (Dick Durbin, Olberman, Howard Dean etc.)
But, has anyone refuted the information that he has presented this week about the CZARS? I found his program (this week) must see TV in regards to who "O" has appointed to Czar positions and who had input on recent administration legislation.
It appears that the president has surrounded himself with a group of crooked union thugs , former self professed communists, discredited environmentalist whackos, and scary leftist radicals. If you can dispute this, please do. Beck seems a little unbalanced, but if this info is correct, he is doing the country a service in pointing out these facts.
He would do the country a service if he found out something and turned it over to someone with some credibility.
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SixDegrees Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:50:51am |
re: #19 lawhawk
The scariest thing is that she's the most net-saavy of all the GOP leaders or potential candidates for 2012. That she's associating with Beck should send up serious red flags. She must figure that Beck is more of an asset to getting her name and message out than he is a detriment because of his loony views.
Sadly, she must be getting some seriously flawed advice on the matter, because Beck's views can and should put a serious crimp in her designs towards 2012. Beck is off the deep end, and it shows poor judgment on Palin's part to associate with him in this manner.
Depends on her goals. If she was planning on running for political office ever again, those plans are scotched forever. If she's planning on being a political gadfly as a career, this raises her profile to the very audience she seems to be pandering to for speaking engagements - and fees.
If she endorses Becks lunacy enough, she might even land a spot as a Fox commentator, along with whatever revenue that brings. Of course, her explanation that she was leaving politics to spend more time with her family then circles the drain.
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Wendya Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:51:06am |
re: #344 loudguitars
It appears that the president has surrounded himself with a group of crooked union thugs , former self professed communists, discredited environmentalist whackos, and scary leftist radicals. If you can dispute this, please do. Beck seems a little unbalanced, but if this info is correct, he is doing the country a service in pointing out these facts.
Some people don't like the message and many people don't like the messenger.
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Ojoe Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:51:16am |
C'mon Sarah, you are blowing it.
The country needs CENTER. please stay away from the fringe. I think you have enough common sense to see this, but maybe not.
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JohnH Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:51:18am |
re: #292 Charles
Quite a few people just don't seem to care that Glenn Beck promotes conspiracy theories, the John Birch Society, End Times, creationism, and wackos like Ron Paul. Why is that? Are these supposed to be "conservative" principles?
No, it's just that we don't subscribe to your notions of fundamentalist separation. We are perfectly capable of separating the wheat from the chaff.
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:51:19am |
re: #309 Oh no...Sand People!
Yeah, the big blue one...
"Spoon" is his battlecry...
I thought someone upthread was starting a 'The Tick' OT / Pun thingy...but I take it you have never seen it...I highly recommend the cartoon. Hilarious.
Thanks, yeah I've never seen it. Not a big cartoon fan, I'll ask turnspawn2 if he's seen it. Turnspawn2 loves the show Office.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:51:25am |
re: #339 Wendya
The problem isn't Beck, it's the inability of the republicans to define themselves after the last two elections. The republican leadership has left a vacuum and it will be filled.
And yet when this gets pointed out, all hell breaks lose. We're supposed to "stop eating our own!" etc. etc.
It's just like Frum said- there is a 4 step process. Right now, the republicans are at the point where the electorate was stupid (step 1, I think). Eventually we will get to step 4 where we take a good hard look at ourselves. Here at LGF, we're ahead of the curve.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:51:32am |
Glenn Beck Interviews Rand Paul FREEDOM!
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:51:41am |
re: #327 BlueCanuck
My daughter made her own stuff last Halloween. She's pretty engrossed by it.
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:51:49am |
re: #334 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Just go for broke and go as a Reaver.
I'm personally opposed to cannibalism. However, being a companion would be a pretty good gig (if I weren't married, of course).
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:51:58am |
re: #345 Mad Mullah
Obama did not alienate the educated. He carried them handily.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:52:10am |
re: #344 loudguitars
I think G Beck is over the top with the Hitler analogies. Sounds familiar (Dick Durbin, Olberman, Howard Dean etc.)
But, has anyone refuted the information that he has presented this week about the CZARS? I found his program (this week) must see TV in regards to who "O" has appointed to Czar positions and who had input on recent administration legislation.
It appears that the president has surrounded himself with a group of crooked union thugs , former self professed communists, discredited environmentalist whackos, and scary leftist radicals. If you can dispute this, please do. Beck seems a little unbalanced, but if this info is correct, he is doing the country a service in pointing out these facts.
He's behind. We've been discussing the czars for quite some time. So have other blogs.
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:52:18am |
re: #337 The Shadow Do
Ironic isn't it that Beck is admired by many for discrediting the left, when the fact is he discredits only the right?
I know the irony is lost on some here. Sad.
* * * *
Public Opinion Strategies today reports only 25% of Americans support the democrats' healthcare hostile takeover plan. (from today's Weekly Standard website blog entry)
Who dunnit? Joe & Jane Q. Citizen
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SpaceJesus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:52:23am |
re: #216 Walter L. Newton
I hope AZ. keeps SpaceJesus and it never comes back to Colorado.
not only will i becoming back one day, but hopefully running for office!
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:52:36am |
re: #355 Killgore Trout
What's that? Glenn Beck frees Ru Paul?
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SFGoth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:52:49am |
re: #327 BlueCanuck
It's amazing what some people will do to make Steam punk items.
/whole bunch more stuff there too.
Ohmygod I want that computer!
Dickens Fair happens in Dec. Anyone in the Nor. Cal. area is advised to attend. Yeah, much of it is shopping, but there's lots of fun stuff too (like me walking around sipping Laphraoig).
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Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:53:23am |
re: #346 unrealizedviewpoint
I removed Beck from my DVR queue long ago. He's back for this week. What he's presenting is just too important to ignore.
The problem with that is that all of it's known public information that other critics have covered better and more in depth without hysteria and without spin and crazy juxtapositions accompanied by weird mouth noises. I guess if that's how you want to consume your information that it's your choice.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:53:26am |
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:53:27am |
re: #342 MandyManners
I'm just gonna' refrain.
Sometimes you hit "post" and then say to yourself, "self, that doesn't sound right". Honestly I was only talking about ears.
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Wendya Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:53:31am |
re: #354 Sharmuta
And yet when this gets pointed out, all hell breaks lose. We're supposed to "stop eating our own!" etc. etc.
It's just like Frum said- there is a 4 step process. Right now, the republicans are at the point where the electorate was stupid (step 1, I think). Eventually we will get to step 4 where we take a good hard look at ourselves. Here at LGF, we're ahead of the curve.
No, we're not.
Elitism doesn't win republican votes. Telling people, you're stupid and uneducated, listen to me and I'll tell you how to think, doesn't win republicans votes.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:53:31am |
re: #292 Charles
Quite a few people just don't seem to care that Glenn Beck promotes conspiracy theories, the John Birch Society, End Times, creationism, and wackos like Ron Paul. Why is that? Are these supposed to be "conservative" principles?
Only if they lead to a smaller government. Which I am not sure if they do...
re: #331 doubter4444
Yeah, but that's fake. You know that right?
He's not really hoping he's wrong and all that... right?
Of course he hopes he is wrong! What comfort can one take in thinking their country is being sold out. What comfort is it to know that 1 out of 10 people don't have a job and that the 'Leader' is pushing policies, borderline deliberately, to cause more unemployment? Sure he makes a boat load off of the 'populist' message, but at the end of the day, the guy may be nuts, but he doesn't hate people and seems, in my opinion, concerned about the general welfare of his neighbors.
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kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:53:33am |
re: #360 alegrias
* * * *
Public Opinion Strategies today reports only 25% of Americans support the democrats' healthcare hostile takeover plan. (from today's Weekly Standard website blog entry)Who dunnit? Joe & Jane Q. Citizen
And they're still gonna ram it through. Looks like, anyway.
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albusteve Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:53:58am |
re: #336 soxfan4life
Lots of people are watching, that's the problem. If Beck and his type would go silent we could get over all of this nirther BS and concentrate on winning back control of the House and Senate, then worry about the WhiteHouse.
people are addicted to this shit...it's disgusting imo having to see what Beck says, or Coulter, or O'Reily or any of them...their influence on people is way over the top...bordering on submission to the media, which is exactly what they strive for...viewers
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Wendya Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:53:59am |
re: #358 Sharmuta
Obama did not alienate the educated. He carried them handily.
Which goes to show an education doesn't necessarily make someone intelligent.
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Shiplord Kirel Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:54:04am |
re: #355 Killgore Trout
Glenn Beck Interviews Rand Paul FREEDOM!
[Video]
Rand Paul is a real favorite at Storm Front too.
(Anyone who doubts this is welcome to put on an NBC suit and go there for a look.)
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SixDegrees Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:54:09am |
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Ben Hur Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:54:26am |
Just had our company medical insurance meeting.
Effing insurance companies.
They don't cover recreational drugs!
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:54:43am |
re: #339 Wendya
The problem isn't Beck, it's the inability of the republicans to define themselves after the last two elections. The republican leadership has left a vacuum and it will be filled.
* * * *
LOSERS generally need to redefine & regroup, by DEFINITION.
Fortunately, the 2006 & 2008 Democrat WINNERS are insufferable egomaniacs turning off Americans at a historic rate.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:55:13am |
re: #358 Sharmuta
Obama did not alienate the educated. He carried them handily.
Actually, just as a visceral reaction, I have many colleagues who were honestly having a hard time choosing between Obama and McCain.
As soon as McCain chose Palin the said to me - OK that settles it.
They voted for Obama in droves because they actually prefer people who are not openly hostile to intellectualism.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:55:22am |
re: #366 CommonCents
Sometimes you hit "post" and then say to yourself, "self, that doesn't sound right". Honestly I was only talking about ears.
Oh, yes. Sure thing. Uh-huh. Gotcha'.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:55:25am |
re: #367 Wendya
No, we're not.
Elitism doesn't win republican votes. Telling people, you're stupid and uneducated, listen to me and I'll tell you how to think, doesn't win republicans votes.
WTF are you talking about?
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:55:39am |
re: #361 SpaceJesus
not only will i becoming back one day, but hopefully running for office!
Maybe a comment or two you placed here at LGF can be one of your campaign slogans?
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albusteve Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:55:55am |
re: #339 Wendya
The problem isn't Beck, it's the inability of the republicans to define themselves after the last two elections. The republican leadership has left a vacuum and it will be filled.
if they can't define themselves, they were not much conservative in the first place...bullshit...the message is the same and always will be
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:56:00am |
re: #348 kansas
He would do the country a service if he found out something and turned it over to someone with some credibility.
* * * *
Who do you suggest, Eric Holder?
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MikeAlv77 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:56:01am |
re: #351 Ojoe
C'mon Sarah, you are blowing it.
The country needs CENTER. please stay away from the fringe. I think you have enough common sense to see this, but maybe not.
She's blowing it... OH YEAH!!!
wait, what were we talking about again...???
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:56:01am |
re: #361 SpaceJesus
not only will i becoming back one day, but hopefully running for office!
Is the Committee of Public Safety holding elections now? :-)
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Athos Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:56:06am |
re: #374 Ben Hur
Just had our company medical insurance meeting.
Effing insurance companies.
They don't cover recreational drugs!
Expanding Obamacare to cover that might improve its chances of passing.
//
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:56:13am |
re: #320 HelloDare
7. kfc new sandwich
That was wierd, maybe KFC just came out with a new commercial today. Most all of the top ten have to do with chappaquiddick
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:56:24am |
re: #374 Ben Hur
Just had our company medical insurance meeting.
Effing insurance companies.
They don't cover recreational drugs!
Most of those are best purchased from Mexico, or certain parts of Mendocino County.
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snowcrash Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:56:27am |
re: #380 unrealizedviewpoint
Something about the South maybe? lol
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jcm Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:56:34am |
In the irony file today...
Va. SPCA exec's dog dies after 4 hours in hot car
An executive for an anti-animal cruelty group says her 16-year-old blind and deaf dog died after she accidentally left him in her hot car for four hours.
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The Shadow Do Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:56:36am |
re: #323 Sharmuta
That's part of the problem too. hannity has people like pat buchanan on his show, and o'reilly is the gold standard for hot headed mindlessness.
It's a business. All this cross-talk and guest sharing is simple self promotion in deference to the company paycheck. reasonable or wacky they all get the check - hosts and guests alike. It is all an obstruction of objective news and opinion of course, but since that is the way it is I can handle whatever comes. Just have to sort out the chaff - and there is way more chaff.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:56:43am |
re: #372 Shiplord Kirel
Rand Paul is a real favorite at Storm Front too.
(Anyone who doubts this is welcome to put on an NBC suit and go there for a look.)
Stormfront and Paulians forums also debate frequently about how much they should support Palin. I think they're eventually going to settle on an uneasy alliance.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:56:45am |
re: #374 Ben Hur
Just had our company medical insurance meeting.
Effing insurance companies.
They don't cover recreational drugs!
*meet me out back after work*
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NukeAtomrod Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:56:46am |
Beck is a few cards short of a deck, but the idea, at least, of doing an exposé of each of Obama's Czars is a good idea. So to me this is really a mixed bag.
Palin's support just shakes the mixed bag around a bit.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:56:56am |
re: #367 Wendya
No, we're not.
Elitism doesn't win republican votes. Telling people, you're stupid and uneducated, listen to me and I'll tell you how to think, doesn't win republicans votes.
What? Ludwig hasn't won over any AGW people yet?
/
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Wendya Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:57:24am |
re: #379 Sharmuta
WTF are you talking about?
When you call part of the electorate stupid and uneducated because they don't believe whatever dogma you're pushing, it tends to backfire. Is the goal to win an election or to enforce groupthink?
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reine.de.tout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:57:24am |
re: #225 Cato the Elder
Well, thank you, Walter.
People think calling Obama "FCBBHO" is clever, but I get bashed for pointing out that Palin uses her Down Syndrome child to spread vicious political lies, which is the simple truth.
She has about as much credibility as Pat Buchanan, without the brains.
Your descriptions are very harsh.
I'd like to point out that many of us here, myself included, had a wonderful time describing Michelle Obama, Hillary Clinton and others in very unflattering ways. I'm not convinced the tone was as harsh as yours, but the descriptions were certainly just as unflattering.
If we dish it out, I guess, we should be, if not willing then at least a bit tolerant, in taking it.
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:57:37am |
re: #358 Sharmuta
Obama did not alienate the educated. He carried them handily.
* * * *
Including the no-hablo-Ingles SEIU Acornistas from Si Se Puede!
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kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:57:40am |
re: #382 alegrias
* * * *
Who do you suggest, Eric Holder?
Heh. Good point though. I can't think of anyone in the national media that has any credibility.
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doubter4444 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:57:50am |
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:57:53am |
re: #380 unrealizedviewpoint
Maybe a comment or two you placed here at LGF can be one of your campaign slogans?
Let's move him to Alabama and use his comments about The South.
Fifty-five gallon drum of whoop-ass.
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Racer X Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:58:02am |
NINE TRILLION DOLLARS.
But Beck is the bad guy.
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:58:05am |
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jcm Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:58:07am |
From the give me five minutes alone file...
Everett toddler's feet scalded in hot water
An Everett man has been accused of dipping his girlfriend's son into hot water, resulting in burns that caused the skin to peel off the toddler's feet.The 18-year-old man was booked into the Snohomish County Jail Monday for investigation of assault and a judge set bail Tuesday at $250,000.
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:58:12am |
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Mad Mullah Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:58:40am |
re: #358 Sharmuta
Obama did not alienate the educated. He carried them handily.
He obviously carried the so-called intellectual elite, the leftists who mistakingly and arrogantly believe that they're above everybody else, but a typical Obama supporter does not strike me as being particularly educated or very informed. As a matter of fact, I'd say that Obama had the vast support of the masses of poor, ignorant people.
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Wendya Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:58:56am |
re: #390 The Shadow Do
It's a business.
Exactly. It depends much on entertaining and engaging viewers. It shouldn't be confused with an actual news show.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:59:06am |
re: #387 doppelganglander
Most of those are best purchased from Mexico, or certain parts of Mendocino County.
I always hear Humboldt, but what do I know? I'm from the midwest.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:59:23am |
re: #379 Sharmuta
WTF are you talking about?
Because O'riley, Beck, Rush and Sarah would never mock people or tell others that they are stupid.
It is some of the worst projection ever to think that the Republicans are not elitist. They are very elitist - but on the basis of money and religion, where as the Dems are a lot more respectful of education.
To say that the educated do not have the right in general, to share actual knowledge, or be a little proud of actually knowing something, is something that only a Republican would do.
Bottom line, I do not like Obama.
However, he is vastly smarter and better educated than any of the major GOP players at the moment. That does not mean he is right in all things - far from it. However, attacking him because he is well educated is a mark of ignorance that makes me despise the GOP.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:59:33am |
re: #386 turn
That was wierd, maybe KFC just came out with a new commercial today. Most all of the top ten have to do with chappaquiddick
One of my Facebook friends posted about it last night. It's a new sandwich that subs bread with two fried chicken filets. Tracy Jordan's Meat Machine is now reality.
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The Shadow Do Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:59:36am |
re: #360 alegrias
* * * *
Public Opinion Strategies today reports only 25% of Americans support the democrats' healthcare hostile takeover plan. (from today's Weekly Standard website blog entry)Who dunnit? Joe & Jane Q. Citizen
AND GLEN BECK!
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:59:46am |
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Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:59:52am |
re: #395 Wendya
When you call part of the electorate stupid and uneducated because they don't believe whatever dogma you're pushing, it tends to backfire. Is the goal to win an election or to enforce groupthink?
You are misunderstanding what Frum was saying. He's saying the second phase of denial after losing an election is to call the electorate dumb, to externalize the fault. Frum didn't say that the electorate was dumb, he's saying the republican party is being dumb. If you can't see that for yourself right now, you should take off those rosy shades.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:00:04pm |
re: #364 Thanos
The problem with that is that all of it's known public information that other critics have covered better and more in depth without hysteria and without spin and crazy juxtapositions accompanied by weird mouth noises. I guess if that's how you want to consume your information that it's your choice.
Who else is covering this about Van Jones and other Obama Czars Beck will be exposing all this week?
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:00:05pm |
re: #407 Creeping Eruption
I always hear Humboldt, but what do I know? I'm from the midwest.
Probably both. I only know about it from an AP story a few weeks ago.
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:00:08pm |
re: #401 Racer X
NINE TRILLION DOLLARS.
But Beck is the bad guy.
Don't worry about it, Racer. We'll be long gone once we have to pay it all back...On the other hand, our children and their children and their children...they are screwed.
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BlueCanuck Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:00:53pm |
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albusteve Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:00:59pm |
re: #408 LudwigVanQuixote
Because O'riley, Beck, Rush and Sarah would never mock people or tell others that they are stupid.
It is some of the worst projection ever to think that the Republicans are not elitist. They are very elitist - but on the basis of money and religion, where as the Dems are a lot more respectful of education.
To say that the educated do not have the right in general, to share actual knowledge, or be a little proud of actually knowing something, is something that only a Republican would do.
Bottom line, I do not like Obama.
However, he is vastly smarter and better educated than any of the major GOP players at the moment. That does not mean he is right in all things - far from it. However, attacking him because he is well educated is a mark of ignorance that makes me despise the GOP.
you know nothing of the sort...that's wild assumption based on your own bias
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Wendya Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:01:00pm |
re: #412 Thanos
You are misunderstanding what Frum was saying. He's saying the second phase of denial after losing an election is to call the electorate dumb, to externalize the fault. Frum didn't say that the electorate was dumb, he's saying the republican party is being dumb. If you can't see that for yourself right now, you should take off those rosy shades.
I wasn't talking about Frum.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:01:17pm |
re: #390 The Shadow Do
It's a business. All this cross-talk and guest sharing is simple self promotion in deference to the company paycheck. reasonable or wacky they all get the check - hosts and guests alike. It is all an obstruction of objective news and opinion of course, but since that is the way it is I can handle whatever comes. Just have to sort out the chaff - and there is way more chaff.
Yes- as David Frum said in a video up above in the comments- the business of pandering to this segment of the right can make you very, very rich and so people pander to them to make their money. Doesn't mean these people are sell conservative values, they're selling what will be purchased.
This is why I've turned them all off- no TV, no radio, and I'm not buying their books. It will continue until the business of selling intellectual slop to the right is no longer profitable.
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:01:27pm |
re: #376 LudwigVanQuixote
Actually, just as a visceral reaction, I have many colleagues who were honestly having a hard time choosing between Obama and McCain.
As soon as McCain chose Palin the said to me - OK that settles it.
They voted for Obama in droves because they actually prefer people who are not openly hostile to intellectualism.
* * * *
Intellectualism per se, for example, the best & brightest minds, did such a great job on the Vietnam War.
Jimmy Carter was SUPER intellectual, a nuclear engineer. AWESOME!
Oddly enough, Carter's Presidency stunk. You probably disagree, as an intellectualist.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:01:30pm |
re: #394 Oh no...Sand People!
What? Ludwig hasn't won over any AGW people yet?
/
Strictly for entertainment I went poking around at some AGW charts, graphs, stats the other night. Some weasal group had a chart comparing historical CO2 from thousands of years back to today. In the blurb explaining how were on the edge of planet-death it said warm water puts out more CO2. Then the sample data from historical periods was examined from the ARCTIC at different depths and compared to data taken from ... HAWAII. I was astonished I tell ya, that it was much higher in the tropical sample.
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:01:40pm |
re: #411 Creeping Eruption
FAIL!
I actually went and read the article and I will modify my previous comment. She did take the dog to two vets who were unable to save him.
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MikeAlv77 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:01:49pm |
re: #403 jcm
From the give me five minutes alone file...
Make it ten minutes... want to make sure complete justice is applied.
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Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:02:03pm |
Never fucking fails. I can sit at my desk for 3 hours with no calls and I step away to pull something off the printer and I come back to a voicemail
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Eowyn2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:02:04pm |
re: #46 Kosh's Shadow
So what else is new?
Link? Although I might not read it if there is anything within throwing distance.I think when Carter finally meets his rabbit, I will not be able to post to LGF if I want to keep my account. He is a Jew-hating scumbag. (And as we were discussing, Ted Kennedy ran against him just because Carter was so bad.)
And yet he STILL got the nomination. ewww.
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kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:02:17pm |
re: #395 Wendya
When you call part of the electorate stupid and uneducated because they don't believe whatever dogma you're pushing, it tends to backfire. Is the goal to win an election or to enforce groupthink?
Don't forget the billions of stimulus they are going to spend. That and Obama's unknown donors will make him a force. Hopefully the 2010 elections will get him under control.
| 427 |
turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:02:27pm |
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jcm Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:03:24pm |
re: #424 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Never fucking fails. I can sit at my desk for 3 hours with no calls and I step away to pull something off the printer and I come back to a voicemail
They are watching you...
/ are paranoid yet ? ;-P
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Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:03:44pm |
re: #413 unrealizedviewpoint
Who else is covering this about Van Jones and other Obama Czars Beck will be exposing all this week?
Here you go., lots of articles 2004 through 2009
[Link: news.google.com...]
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Shug Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:04:13pm |
Nancy Pelosi. Barack Obama. Eric Holder scare me. They are in charge.
A loudmouth talkshow host who holds absolutely no power and who occasionally makes sense in between some pretty silly rantings doesn't.
Beck ain't the boogy man. He can't even keep ahold of his sponsors and if the free market keeps working as it should, eventually he'll be a former talkshow host
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opnion Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:04:20pm |
re: #397 alegrias
* * * *
Including the no-hablo-Ingles SEIU Acornistas from Si Se Puede!
Unless my memory is faltering , didn't McCain carry the college educated & Obama had an edge with those with graduate degrees?
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:04:32pm |
re: #417 albusteve
you know nothing of the sort...that's wild assumption based on your own bias
OK seriously...
Smarter and better educated:
Palin or Obama? Answer truthfully.
What about Creationist Huckabee or Obama: Answer truthfully.
Ron Paul or Obama? Answer truthfully.
Go down the list of who the GOP is putting up...
I am not saying that because Obama is smarter and better educated that he is always right. Far from it. I really despise many of his policies.
However. Trying to pick on Obama because he actually is smart and educated is the kind of ignorant crap that the GOP excels at.
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Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:05:00pm |
re: #418 Wendya
I wasn't talking about Frum.
So who are you talking about? Lizards in general? Please be specific as to who you are labeling "Elitists"
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:05:02pm |
re: #401 Racer X
NINE TRILLION DOLLARS.
But Beck is the bad guy.
Beck, for all his talk, does not make policy. Exactly. And as far as TV goes, that is about as much education as you'll get from a TV show unless he can turn it into a 'C-Span' information only with zero bias...but then you lose the TV "I want my Special Effects!" audience. So what's worse? Getting out your message and a bunch of people pick up the 'major themes' but make it sensational, or make it 'lecture 101' boring and nobody tunes in? Though I am not happy with the way his presentation is all the time...I would much rather people tune into that as opposed to MSNBC / CNN / ABC et al.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:05:12pm |
re: #395 Wendya
When you call part of the electorate stupid and uneducated because they don't believe whatever dogma you're pushing, it tends to backfire. Is the goal to win an election or to enforce groupthink?
But it's the right at this moment that is calling the electorate stupid. In fact- people on this thread are displaying this mentality Frum described. Sometimes it's repeated multiple times on a single thread, and it's done on multiple threads every day.
What is stupid it to call the electorate stupid instead of looking at why the electorate didn't choose us.
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Racer X Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:05:13pm |
re: #415 Desert Dog
Don't worry about it, Racer. We'll be long gone once we have to pay it all back...On the other hand, our children and their children and their children...they are screwed.
Yup.
Beck will be a trivia question on Hollywood squares in a few years. We will be paying off the NINE TRILLION Dollar debt for decades.
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Desert Dog Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:05:41pm |
re: #408 LudwigVanQuixote
Because O'riley, Beck, Rush and Sarah would never mock people or tell others that they are stupid.
It is some of the worst projection ever to think that the Republicans are not elitist. They are very elitist - but on the basis of money and religion, where as the Dems are a lot more respectful of education.
To say that the educated do not have the right in general, to share actual knowledge, or be a little proud of actually knowing something, is something that only a Republican would do.
Bottom line, I do not like Obama.
However, he is vastly smarter and better educated than any of the major GOP players at the moment. That does not mean he is right in all things - far from it. However, attacking him because he is well educated is a mark of ignorance that makes me despise the GOP.
I grant you the better educated, but I question his intelligence. I think he is vastly over-rated in that department. He can read a speech very well. That is the special skill that brought him into the White House. Take him off the TOTUS and he is mealy-mouthed and incoherent. And, so far, his vision, his plan for the the USA, is rehashed garbage the left has been regurgitating for years. Spending ourselves to death is not very smart. Giving your enemies hope and slapping your allies is not very smart either. I cannot think of much Obama has done or said while in office that smacks of "super intelligent".
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soxfan4life Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:05:50pm |
re: #408 LudwigVanQuixote
Any argument about 0bama's intellect should include his complete lack of ability to speak without his teleprompter which shows his lack of commitment or he doesn't believe what he says. Sometimes I think he needs the teleprompter to speak to his girls or WAB.
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kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:05:55pm |
re: #432 LudwigVanQuixote
OK seriously...
Smarter and better educated:
Palin or Obama? Answer truthfully.
What about Creationist Huckabee or Obama: Answer truthfully.
Ron Paul or Obama? Answer truthfully.Go down the list of who the GOP is putting up...
I am not saying that because Obama is smarter and better educated that he is always right. Far from it. I really despise many of his policies.
However. Trying to pick on Obama because he actually is smart and educated is the kind of ignorant crap that the GOP excels at.
You know those are excellent points. Now just link us up to some Obama transcripts and such, and we'll take a look.
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drogheda Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:06:08pm |
re: #386 turn
That was wierd, maybe KFC just came out with a new commercial today.
There's apparently a new KFC promotional sandwich called the "Double Down" in some parts of the country. The bread has been replaced with two pieces of chicken so it's basically cheese+bacon sandwiched in chicken breasts.
Reportedly has around 1000 calories. Doubt it's terribly heart-healthy.
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Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:06:46pm |
Barack Obama on brink of deal for Middle East peace talks
Barack Obama is close to brokering an Israeli-Palestinian deal that will allow him to announce a resumption of the long-stalled Middle East peace talks before the end of next month, according to US, Israeli, Palestinian and European officials.
Key to bringing Israel on board is a promise by the US to adopt a much tougher line with Iran over its alleged nuclear weapons programme. The US, along with Britain and France, is planning to push the United Nations security council to expand sanctions to include Iran's oil and gas industry, a move that could cripple its economy.
In return, the Israeli government will be expected to agree to a partial freeze on the construction of settlements in the Middle East. In the words of one official close to the negotiations: "The message is: Iran is an existential threat to Israel; settlements are not."
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The Shadow Do Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:06:57pm |
re: #408 LudwigVanQuixote
However, he is vastly smarter and better educated than any of the major GOP players at the moment
That Romney guy is such a dolt, a real luddite I'm told.
And Gingrich? Dumb as a rock...
Oh! You were talking about Palin! Sorry...
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:07:14pm |
re: #429 Thanos
Here you go., lots of articles 2004 through 2009
[Link: news.google.com...]
Sorry. Those are positive spin articles on Van Jones. Not a word with regard to what Beck is exposing. Do you really think the MFMSM is going to run a piece critical of Van Jones?
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:07:53pm |
re: #337 The Shadow Do
Ironic isn't it that Beck is admired by many for discrediting the left, when the fact is he discredits only the right?
I know the irony is lost on some here. Sad.
Hmmm, seems like the left is pretty bothered by him too. I think the boycott of advertisers has been arranged by progressives.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:08:22pm |
re: #403 jcm
From the give me five minutes alone file...
Five minutes?
What I'd like to do with that guy would take about... hmm (working out rough wound ballistics data in head) 28 seconds, I think.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:08:45pm |
re: #413 unrealizedviewpoint
Who else is covering this about Van Jones and other Obama Czars Beck will be exposing all this week?
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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albusteve Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:08:51pm |
re: #432 LudwigVanQuixote
OK seriously...
Smarter and better educated:
Palin or Obama? Answer truthfully.
What about Creationist Huckabee or Obama: Answer truthfully.
Ron Paul or Obama? Answer truthfully.Go down the list of who the GOP is putting up...
I am not saying that because Obama is smarter and better educated that he is always right. Far from it. I really despise many of his policies.
However. Trying to pick on Obama because he actually is smart and educated is the kind of ignorant crap that the GOP excels at.
I could care less who is supposedly "smarter and better educated"...that's for so called intellectual elites that make assumptions about such matters
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jcm Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:08:57pm |
re: #432 LudwigVanQuixote
The issue I have isn't whether or not he's educated or intelligent, his success is proof enough of those.
My problem is what is life long education consisted of, there is a theme to it. From his mother, all his life there is a theme. One of radical leftism.
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BlackFedora Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:09:19pm |
Sarah Palin is at the center of a vast conspiracy to make herself look absolutely fucking crazy and unelectable.
I'm CONVINCED.
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midwestgak Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:09:21pm |
re: #408 LudwigVanQuixote
Because O'riley, Beck, Rush and Sarah would never mock people or tell others that they are stupid.
Bottom line, I do not like Obama.
However, he is vastly smarter and better educated than any of the major GOP players at the moment.
Just curious, what qualifies you to make a judgment like that?
btw, it's O'Reilly.
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Danny Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:09:27pm |
re: #434 Oh no...Sand People!
Beck, for all his talk, does not make policy.
No, but Beck and many other pundits influence policy by using the media to sway publc sentiments and consensus, to which less than principled politicians then pander.
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:09:47pm |
re: #431 opnion
Unless my memory is faltering , didn't McCain carry the college educated & Obama had an edge with those with graduate degrees?
* * * *
Es muy posible!
Si Se Puede!
(Sorry I don't track the voting patterns of the uber-intelligentsia)
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kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:09:54pm |
re: #445 Walter L. Newton
Hmmm, seems like the left is pretty bothered by him too. I think the boycott of advertisers has been arranged by progressives.
That and the racial organization [Link: colorofchange.org...]
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:09:59pm |
re: #450 buzzsawmonkey
And she probably wasn't wearing as many petticoats as they did back in the day, nor a corset.
So os the layer between the petticoat and the corset the petticoat junction?
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Occasional Reader Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:10:22pm |
re: #408 LudwigVanQuixote
However, he is vastly smarter and better educated than any of the major GOP players at the moment.
I'll put Romney or Giuliani up against Obama in a full-contact IQ test, any day of the week.
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Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:10:24pm |
re: #444 unrealizedviewpoint
Sorry. Those are positive spin articles on Van Jones. Not a word with regard to what Beck is exposing. Do you really think the MFMSM is going to run a piece critical of Van Jones?
Bullshit, did you read them all?
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reine.de.tout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:10:36pm |
re: #408 LudwigVanQuixote
Because O'riley, Beck, Rush and Sarah would never mock people or tell others that they are stupid.
It is some of the worst projection ever to think that the Republicans are not elitist. They are very elitist - but on the basis of money and religion, where as the Dems are a lot more respectful of education.
To say that the educated do not have the right in general, to share actual knowledge, or be a little proud of actually knowing something, is something that only a Republican would do.
Bottom line, I do not like Obama.
However, he is vastly smarter and better educated than any of the major GOP players at the moment. That does not mean he is right in all things - far from it. However, attacking him because he is well educated is a mark of ignorance that makes me despise the GOP.
I'm not sure people are "attacking" him because he is well-educated.
My problem is that he seems to know so little in spite of being so well educated.
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:10:48pm |
re: #409 Mad Al-Jaffee
One of my Facebook friends posted about it last night. It's a new sandwich that subs bread with two fried chicken filets. Tracy Jordan's Meat Machine is now reality.
heh, had to google that
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jcm Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:10:55pm |
re: #446 Occasional Reader
Five minutes?
What I'd like to do with that guy would take about... hmm (working out rough wound ballistics data in head) 28 seconds, I think.
To quick, for the likes of that "to the pain."
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:11:13pm |
re: #408 LudwigVanQuixote
However, he is vastly smarter and better educated than any of the major GOP players at the moment.
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Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:11:37pm |
re: #424 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Never fucking fails. I can sit at my desk for 3 hours with no calls and I step away to pull something off the printer and I come back to a voicemail
LOL
I work in Network IT...I have never gotten a call at my desk where somebody says...Hell! Everything is working great! keep it up! We love you...
You know...when that phone rings...There is somebody somewhere really upset and frustrated...That's why It's so easy to post here...I see lizards blow up sometimes...It's like the 4am phone calls at full volume...
It's cool..We are going to fix this thing..
/Well unless you think Glenn Beck acting like a clown on TV is going to save America...
I follow leadership that is principled, Strong, Kind, Knowledgeable and Mature that follow Conservative roadmaps..
If I wanted an idiot I'd vote for Pee Wee Herman
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turn Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:11:39pm |
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:11:41pm |
re: #447 Charles
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
I think it's really sad that LGF isn't viewed as more of news service. You are so often ahead of the curve- why is it more folks don't search LGF for news stories? I don't understand. I know some of it is from the unfair blackballing LGF has received from sites like google, but there isn't much of an excuse for us Lizards.
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opnion Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:12:06pm |
re: #440 kansas
You know those are excellent points. Now just link us up to some Obama transcripts and such, and we'll take a look.
Outstanding point. A self-described poor high school student gets an academic scholarship to College. How did that happen?
President of Harvard Law Review without ever submitting an article, not likely.
It may just be that Obama is an overrated mediocrity & not so smart.
Where are the transcripts?
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SFGoth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:12:08pm |
re: #407 Creeping Eruption
I always hear Humboldt, but what do I know? I'm from the midwest.
Mendocino's on the way to Humboldt. Nor Cal. is generally great growing area (towards the coast). Importing weed from Mexico is like watching Brits play gridiron football - it may be amusing, but it's not the real thing. The real thing is grown in the U.S.A.
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cronus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:12:23pm |
OT: BREAKING: Rumors Surface That Leon Panetta is Resigning
Caveat: Erick usually seems to have reasonably good intel. However in the case of the actual whereabouts of Mark Sanford he obviously did not.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:12:24pm |
re: #447 Charles
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
As I noted earlier, you've been all over the czars long before Beck.
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:12:37pm |
re: #440 kansas
You know those are excellent points. Now just link us up to some Obama transcripts and such, and we'll take a look.
* * * *
You impertinent knuckledragger! How dare you question self-evident greatness?
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:12:37pm |
re: #408 LudwigVanQuixote
[snip]
However, attacking him because he is well educated is a mark of ignorance that makes me despise the GOP.
Yes, Obama is so well educated that he cannot form a simple paragraph off the cuff without stuttering, stammering and misspeaking.
Most of the commenters here on LGF can form post after post of coherent dialog all day long, post after post, and never falter.
Yet Obama is so ignorant of the topics he is expected to address on a daily, weekly and monthly basis, that he is forced to deliver most of his thoughts from a pre-packed, canned teleprompter feed.
Well educated does not mean well informed or smart. Professorial intelligence is far removed from real-world intelligence.
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soxfan4life Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:12:40pm |
re: #457 Occasional Reader
I'll put Romney or Giuliani up against Obama in a full-contact IQ test, any day of the week.
Romney also has the proven record of success. I don't know why we don't look for those who have had success in the business world to run the government, seems they would be able to make the economy click better than anyone.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:12:59pm |
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:13:13pm |
re: #450 buzzsawmonkey
And she probably wasn't wearing as many petticoats as they did back in the day, nor a corset.
No, she wasn't. I seem to remember the dress dated to the 1910s. I don't think women's undergarments were quite so voluminous then. It was a wedding dress, and it might have been intended to be worn with at least a light corset.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:13:23pm |
re: #467 SFGoth
Importing weed from Mexico is like watching Brits play gridiron football - it may be amusing, but it's not the real thing. .
I like the analogy
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Mad Mullah Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:13:34pm |
re: #430 Shug
Nancy Pelosi. Barack Obama. Eric Holder scare me. They are in charge.
I agree with some things that Beck says, and I disagree with some things that he says.
re: #435 Sharmuta
What is stupid it to call the electorate stupid instead of looking at why the electorate didn't choose us.
That's exactly what I am doing. I am calling the majority of Obama voters either ignorant or willfully ignorant, which is the same as stupid in my book. And the proof of that is simply to look at how their saviour is currently performing and how he is attempting to destroy this country. He is a liar, he is divisive, he is a radical, he is a race baiting opportunist, he's an amateur, and I don't trust him at all.
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Athos Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:13:43pm |
re: #465 Sharmuta
A service with not one but hundreds of potential editors...all working on the story of the moment and fact checking someone's ass.
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:13:49pm |
re: #442 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
* * * *
RAMADAN's the deadline for Obama's peace break through, per the Weekly Standard's blog of today.
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:13:52pm |
re: #432 LudwigVanQuixote
OK seriously...
Smarter and better educated:
Palin or Obama? Answer truthfully.
What about Creationist Huckabee or Obama: Answer truthfully.
Ron Paul or Obama? Answer truthfully.Go down the list of who the GOP is putting up...
I am not saying that because Obama is smarter and better educated that he is always right. Far from it. I really despise many of his policies.
However. Trying to pick on Obama because he actually is smart and educated is the kind of ignorant crap that the GOP excels at.
Obama went to all the right academic institutions. How he did is up for discussion. He made law review at Harvard. He taught at Chicago. All that's indisputable.
How they sound versus how smart they are are two different things. Palin, Huckabee and Paul all say some really dumb things, but Obama says stuff that sounds real intellectual until you realize he hasn't said anything at all. It's fluff; or worse, he's lying and pandering to the crowds in such a way that furthers an agenda antithetical to most Americans - see the health care debate, which is not so much a debate as the Democrats demanding change on their say-so and we have to sit back and listen to them telling us it's for our own good even as the CBO and others say the numbers don't add up. etc.
How about these comparisons:
Romney v. Obama
Rudy v. Obama
McCain v. Obama
Thompson v. Obama
JC Watts v. Obama
And the granddaddy of comparisons:
Bush v. Obama
On that last one - Bush often sounded dumb, but no more or less than Obama when Obama is off the teleprompter. And Bush had all the right academic background that Obama did - including a MBA. Oh, and Bush flew jets (which takes not only plenty of mental acuity, but physical conditioning far in excess of what Obama hypes).
No, this isn't about comparisons of relative mental agility.
It's about what they say on key policy points, and there Obama fails just as surely as Paul and Huckabee do, and where Palin has fallen short as well.
As I said during 2008, we were dealing with the evil of lessers, not the lesser of evils. None of these candidates warmed my heart or got me charged to vote for them. They still don't. If anything, my fears and concerns about all the aforementioned (Palin, Huckabee, Paul, and Obama) are justified.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:14:18pm |
re: #477 Athos
A service with not one but hundreds of potential editors...all working on the story of the moment and fact checking someone's ass.
And providing editorial commentary.
All in one package.
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The Shadow Do Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:14:34pm |
re: #419 Sharmuta
Yes- as David Frum said in a video up above in the comments- the business of pandering to this segment of the right can make you very, very rich and so people pander to them to make their money. Doesn't mean these people are sell conservative values, they're selling what will be purchased.
This is why I've turned them all off- no TV, no radio, and I'm not buying their books. It will continue until the business of selling intellectual slop to the right is no longer profitable.
I think there is a real market right now for some variation of a TV program like Crossfire. An intellectual political exchange could be lucrative but it will take a very long time to be realized. Someone who will only later be declared a genius will take a chance and discover this.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:14:36pm |
Okay, my office is starting to smell like farts.
And it isn't me.
And there's no one else in my office.
Do I have a Ghost Farter?
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Ojoe Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:14:38pm |
re: #447 Charles
As an architect who has designed solar buildings I am totally dismayed by the politicalization of all the solar and "green" efforts.
It is a ten year kiss of suspended animation for real progress that there even is a "green czar."
Feh.
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opnion Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:14:40pm |
re: #454 alegrias
* * * *
Es muy posible!Si Se Puede!
(Sorry I don't track the voting patterns of the uber-intelligentsia)
But they demand recognition.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:15:00pm |
re: #476 Mad Mullah
Wendya says that telling people they're stupid because they won't swallow your dogma backfires, so good luck with that.
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Eowyn2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:15:27pm |
re: #358 Sharmuta
Obama did not alienate the educated. He carried them handily.
Not so sure about that. I'd have to see raw statistics. My sister has a doctorate in finance and is a dem. She was definately plugging her nose while voting McCain. The last thing she said was "I hope congress can reign him in somehow"
We know that a lot of college kids voted Obama and elite tower voted Obama and a lot of union (generally lesser educated) voted Obama and Hollywood voted Obama. We dont know how many BS and BA folks voted for either one. I think it is very wrong to assume that all of the educated people live in Blue States.
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doubter4444 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:15:48pm |
re: #205 alegrias
* * * *
There's no doubt media got to him & his family. Oddly enough it's hands off the Kennedy, Clinton & Obama children.
Oh god, it's the medias fault!
Again. And they are only after Republicans!
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Eowyn2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:16:12pm |
re: #424 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Never fucking fails. I can sit at my desk for 3 hours with no calls and I step away to pull something off the printer and I come back to a voicemail
Its from me. I caught you
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:16:14pm |
re: #471 Walter L. Newton
Yes, Obama is so well educated that he cannot form a simple paragraph off the cuff without stuttering, stammering and misspeaking.
Most of the commenters here on LGF can form post after post of coherent dialog all day long, post after post, and never falter.
Yet Obama is so ignorant of the topics he is expected to address on a daily, weekly and monthly basis, that he is forced to deliver most of his thoughts from a pre-packed, canned teleprompter feed.
Well educated does not mean well informed or smart. Professorial intelligence is far removed from real-world intelligence.
You forgot the plants.
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:16:14pm |
re: #442 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Ah, the Middle East Peace Process, where presidents go for solace when their domestic agendas flame out because all that's needed to be successful is to get some kind of a meeting in order, even if the outcome is the same - the status quo.
There can be no peace unless and until the Palestinians recognize Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state alongside a Palestinian state in Gaza and West Bank (and the Palestinians first have to agree on who's going to represent them given that Hamas and Fatah don't talk to each other and each has their own territory from which to operate). Hamas refuses to accept Israel's existence beyond using maps for targeting data. Fatah plays lip service, but lacks the courage to make peace (knowing that whoever does will likely end up assassinated by the extremists like Sadat).
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albusteve Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:16:22pm |
re: #482 Occasional Reader
Okay, my office is starting to smell like farts.
And it isn't me.
And there's no one else in my office.
Do I have a Ghost Farter?
probably a low pressure leak you are not aware of
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:16:25pm |
re: #482 Occasional Reader
Okay, my office is starting to smell like farts.
And it isn't me.
And there's no one else in my office.
Do I have a Ghost Farter?
Flatulgeist!
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:16:31pm |
re: #458 Thanos
Bullshit, did you read them all?
I did scan the titles of the 35 results. I find nothing scathing. Charles' comment corrects me quite well though.
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scottishbuzzsaw Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:16:39pm |
re: #459 reine.de.tout
I'm not sure people are "attacking" him because he is well-educated.
My problem is that he seems to know so little in spite of being so well educated.
That is my problem as well. I had high expectations which quickly fell to earth...then dug a deep hole. I tend to hold those who value learning in high regard. I just can't see that he profited by such a wonderful education.
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:16:47pm |
re: #441 drogheda
There's apparently a new KFC promotional sandwich called the "Double Down" in some parts of the country. The bread has been replaced with two pieces of chicken so it's basically cheese+bacon sandwiched in chicken breasts.
Reportedly has around 1000 calories. Doubt it's terribly heart-healthy.
* * * *
IQ Quiz: Who goes to fast food joints for HEALTHY food?
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:16:51pm |
re: #482 Occasional Reader
Okay, my office is starting to smell like farts.
And it isn't me.
And there's no one else in my office.
Do I have a Ghost Farter?
Check the desk drawers for a "gift" from a co-worker who have pissed off lately, or for a lunch you forgot about. I know someone who received a dead fish in the trunk of his expensive Italian sports car courtesy of a jilted ex.
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Mad Mullah Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:17:08pm |
re: #485 Sharmuta
Wendya says that telling people they're stupid because they won't swallow your dogma backfires, so good luck with that.
I'm trying trying to win anybody over and my concern is not for the republican party or how to win elections. I just tell it like I see it.
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:17:12pm |
re: #471 Walter L. Newton
Yes, Obama is so well educated that he cannot form a simple paragraph off the cuff without stuttering, stammering and misspeaking.
Most of the commenters here on LGF can form post after post of coherent dialog all day long, post after post, and never falter.
Yet Obama is so ignorant of the topics he is expected to address on a daily, weekly and monthly basis, that he is forced to deliver most of his thoughts from a pre-packed, canned teleprompter feed.
Well educated does not mean well informed or smart. Professorial intelligence is far removed from real-world intelligence.
There's an easy way to resolve the question. Buzzsawmonkey should challenge Obama to to a song and poetry parody contest. If there's a tie, they can have a lightning round of fish puns.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:17:38pm |
re: #486 Eowyn2
2008 election results broken down by demographics is just a google search away.
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Athos Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:17:44pm |
re: #471 Walter L. Newton
I agree with you Walter.
But as I do, I also consider this...part of the President's challenge may very well be in his hesitation to really say what he feels and believes and the challenge in trying to say what he thinks is politically expedient.
Somehow, I think, if we were in one of his community organizer meetings, or unmonitored discussions with his friends / advisors where PC is not present, he might be a different speaker in terms of skills and style. Could he persuade us who don't see things the same way, probably not, but I don't think he would be as tongue tied as we see him when off the teleprompter.
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:17:46pm |
re: #482 Occasional Reader
Okay, my office is starting to smell like farts.
And it isn't me.
And there's no one else in my office.
Do I have a Ghost Farter?
Who ya' gonna' call?
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LGoPs Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:17:50pm |
re: #435 Sharmuta
But it's the right at this moment that is calling the electorate stupid. In fact- people on this thread are displaying this mentality Frum described. Sometimes it's repeated multiple times on a single thread, and it's done on multiple threads every day.
What is stupid it to call the electorate stupid instead of looking at why the electorate didn't choose us.
There is a difference between a stupid electorate and a misinformed one and I think the latter desciption better characterizes the electorate's choice last November. It is an indisputable fact that the media, which is tasked with providing the information that the citizenry needs to make informed decisions, singularly failed at that task.
The sheer volume of negative stories directed at Palin combined with a total lack of interest in uncovering Obama's past played a decisive part in the decision, IMO.
The calls here on the part of some to dismiss FOX, which with all its imperfections, is almost the sole source of contravening information to balance the other side, is disappointing to say the least.
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Occasional Reader Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:18:09pm |
re: #489 MandyManners
You forgot the plants.
Now wait a minute. I will certainly concede that Obama is smarter than plants.
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soxfan4life Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:18:13pm |
re: #497 Creeping Eruption
Check the desk drawers for a "gift" from a co-worker who have pissed off lately, or for a lunch you forgot about. I know someone who received a dead fish in the trunk of his expensive Italian sports car courtesy of a jilted ex.
Don't forget about the office in CA where the workers were hospitalized after opening the refrigerator.
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brandon13 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:18:33pm |
re: #457 Occasional Reader
I'll put Romney or Giuliani up against Obama in a full-contact IQ test, any day of the week.
That'd probably be a fair fight.
And yet for some reason I doubt either one will be the candidate in '12.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:18:33pm |
re: #482 Occasional Reader
Okay, my office is starting to smell like farts.
And it isn't me.
And there's no one else in my office.
Do I have a Ghost Farter?
I don't know about any farting ghosts, but I believe I've fixed that problem you were complaining about, where the buttons would jump around when you tried to click them. Are you still seeing that?
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:18:35pm |
re: #482 Occasional Reader
Okay, my office is starting to smell like farts.
And it isn't me.
And there's no one else in my office.
Do I have a Ghost Farter?
Check your drawers. ;)
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:18:39pm |
re: #505 soxfan4life
Don't forget about the office in CA where the workers were hospitalized after opening the refrigerator.
I didnt hear about that one. What happened?
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Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:18:50pm |
re: #494 unrealizedviewpoint
I did scan the titles of the 35 results. I find nothing scathing. Charles' comment corrects me quite well though.
I'll also note that Zombie and I both mentioned that his other science czar was a Berkeley tree sitter.
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Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:19:19pm |
re: #467 SFGoth
Mendocino's on the way to Humboldt. Nor Cal. is generally great growing area (towards the coast). Importing weed from Mexico is like watching Brits play gridiron football - it may be amusing, but it's not the real thing. The real thing is grown in the U.S.A.
Boy is that the truth! Everybody in Napa also knew the greatest stuff in the world was Mount Veeder Purple in the Valley...
I never smoked but had lots of friends in High school that did...
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Ben Hur Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:19:21pm |
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Occasional Reader Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:19:33pm |
re: #493 buzzsawmonkey
Women in 1910 had more stays than a fiercely-contested litigation.
'Corset didn't matter so much back then, did it...
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:19:37pm |
re: #503 LGoPs
You're just trying to spin the step. The right is currently, by and large, calling the electorate stupid. And blaming the press isn't much different. We lost because we didn't offer a better product. Full stop.
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:19:50pm |
re: #501 Athos
I agree with you Walter.
But as I do, I also consider this...part of the President's challenge may very well be in his hesitation to really say what he feels and believes and the challenge in trying to say what he thinks is politically expedient.
Somehow, I think, if we were in one of his community organizer meetings, or unmonitored discussions with his friends / advisors where PC is not present, he might be a different speaker in terms of skills and style. Could he persuade us who don't see things the same way, probably not, but I don't think he would be as tongue tied as we see him when off the teleprompter.
He's not even intelligent enough to lie on his feet. His impromptu speaking, lying or pontificating skills stink.
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The Shadow Do Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:19:53pm |
re: #445 Walter L. Newton
Hmmm, seems like the left is pretty bothered by him too. I think the boycott of advertisers has been arranged by progressives.
While I'm sure the progressives have driven the message home, I don't really credit them with anything beyond highlighting the nuttiness. If I am in Corporate and making decisions on my company image, the decision to back away from Beck is a total no brainer.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:20:28pm |
re: #482 Occasional Reader
Okay, my office is starting to smell like farts.
And it isn't me.
And there's no one else in my office.
Do I have a Ghost Farter?
It's a fart fantasm
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:20:33pm |
re: #513 Occasional Reader
'Corset didn't matter so much back then, did it...
I'm calling a halter to this before it starts.
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:20:36pm |
re: #472 soxfan4life
Romney also has the proven record of success. I don't know why we don't look for those who have had success in the business world to run the government, seems they would be able to make the economy click better than anyone.
* * * *
Well, Pres. Bush was our first and only MBA to be president. Arguably, it didn't make his job easier.
It's not strictly the government's job to run our economy.
Governing isn't strictly a market-like business.
President's job is to preserve, protect & defend. NOT micromanage our country.
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Ben Hur Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:20:51pm |
re: #482 Occasional Reader
Okay, my office is starting to smell like farts.
And it isn't me.
And there's no one else in my office.
Do I have a Ghost Farter?
They've been know to exist...
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Ben Hur Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:21:15pm |
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Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:21:17pm |
re: #482 Occasional Reader
Okay, my office is starting to smell like farts.
And it isn't me.
And there's no one else in my office.
Do I have a Ghost Farter?
See if someone's running a car outside, check for gas leaks if you use gas, make sure the floor drains in the bathrooms haven't dried out. (pour a coffee pot of water down them)
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:21:20pm |
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:21:21pm |
re: #453 Danny
No, but Beck and many other pundits influence policy by using the media to sway publc sentiments and consensus, to which less than principled politicians then pander.
So who do we want influencing the sheeple? Beck or Olby? I don't agree that the end (winning elections) is justified by the means (feed the people fear and social con garbage) but one could really do their best to 'justify the means' since we are 6 months into Obama and 9 TRILLION dollar deficit is already around the corner, our national security is soon to get gutted by Holder et al., I might just hope the 'TV' crowd tunes into Beck over anyone else. I will take an 'average' as opposed to 'mythical perfection' anyday with Beck, over the 'completely complicit MSM statists' on any other network.
Yeah it sucks and it's telling that what Beck is doing and how it resonates with the 'base', but LGF is at least, in my opinion, 2 if not 3 more presidential elections ahead of the 'mom and pop' who uses the internet for email only to keep up with grandkids...
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:21:37pm |
re: #518 calcajun
I'm calling a halter to this before it starts.
Please don't. I'm having a rough day and it's giving me a lift.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:21:45pm |
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BlueCanuck Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:21:47pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:22:29pm |
re: #516 The Shadow Do
While I'm sure the progressives have driven the message home, I don't really credit them with anything beyond highlighting the nuttiness. If I am in Corporate and making decisions on my company image, the decision to back away from Beck is a total no brainer.
If Beck is the third most watch cable show and you do that, you won't be in Corporate too much longer. Do you want me to post the list of MSNBC sponsors who have no problem with the craziness that goes on on that network. Bottom line is money, not anyones politics. Advertisers come and go, there is never a lack of someone who will take a spot on Beck.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:22:32pm |
re: #523 CommonCents
or the flatulence fairy
Leaves you a present in the middle of the night? On top or under the pillow?
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:22:41pm |
re: #420 alegrias
* * * *
Intellectualism per se, for example, the best & brightest minds, did such a great job on the Vietnam War.Jimmy Carter was SUPER intellectual, a nuclear engineer. AWESOME!
Oddly enough, Carter's Presidency stunk. You probably disagree, as an intellectualist.
Amazing how as soon as someone dares to question the hypocrisy of the GOP, they must love Carter... That is the kind of ignorant nonsense I am talking about. As an intellectual I must love Carter...
Do you see that you are making my point for me?
No. Carter was one of the worst presidents ever. He bungle Iran so badly that we are still facing the consequences. He trashed the economy. He was weak and silly on the foreign front. He is also an out and out anti-semite.
Reagan was a good president. In fact almost a great. (I reserve great for Washington, Adams and Lincoln like presidents) He deserves endless credit for bringing down the Soviet Union and then having the courage to embrace Gorbachev and his reforms. He deserves endless credit for restoring pride and faith in America. I was not so keen on his environmental stance, and I also blame him for being the one who wedded the GOP to the religious right. However, in balance, he was a great president. He can not be praised enough for bringing up the pride and station of America after a rescission and after the lingering effects of Vietnam.
Bush Senior was an OK president. His deficit spending was not so great. His environmental stance and educational stances were awful. He was too involved in petro politics from the get go, but, he was competent on foreign policy in general.
Clinton was not a bad president. Despite his personal fiascos with women, his foreign policy was pretty sound, he did end the genocide in the former Yogoslavia, he did try to get Bin Laden and he actually had a pretty good run economically. HE fails as a great president because he could not keep his own party in line enough to accomplish his goals. He also fails because he could not stand up, do a mea culpa about monica and make it all go away. As a result, the GOP was able to step all over him for reasons other than policy.
Ahhh what the heck W. was a really bad president. IMHO as bead as Carter. If you care for personal liberties, you should care about warrantees wiretaps ON YOU and eavesdropping ON YOUR mails and communications. You should care about the seizing of power by the president against the constitution. And yes, because he lied about Iraq's nuclear program he fought a mismanaged war that expended our resources and makes it difficult to take out the very real nuclear problem in Iran. Further, talk about being in a bubble. Shock and Awe anyone. It took them how many years to figure ou that if you want to control the ground you need to put men on the ground? Then what about flying people to Syria to be tortured. A little fascism is OK if repressive Muslim regimes do the torture? What about all those bones to the whacko religious element as well?
And worst of all, Bush was the most anti-science president we have ever had. He almost single handedly set back efforts to address AGW by eight years. When future histories condemn him it will be for that most of all.
He was as bad as Carter.
So you can read that...
That means that no. I am a moderate.
Love Reagan, Hate Carter, Hate Bush.
Obama so far in my book gets a C-/D+ I really don't like him either, but for many different reasons.
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soxfan4life Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:22:49pm |
re: #509 Creeping Eruption
I didnt hear about that one. What happened?
Here's a link to the story
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:23:16pm |
re: #472 soxfan4life
Romney also has the proven record of success. I don't know why we don't look for those who have had success in the business world to run the government, seems they would be able to make the economy click better than anyone.
Huh? You want results!? HAHAHAHAH!!
/
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MandyManners Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:23:21pm |
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Eowyn2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:23:21pm |
re: #219 historyrider
Anyone seen this?
The Colorado Democratic Party chairwoman had blamed the vandalism on the "contentious" health care debate saying, ""Clearly there's been an effort on the other side to stir up hate. I think this is the consequence of it."
***
Update: Democrat Official Very Wrong About Who Vandalized Colorado Party HQ[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]
Don't muddy the water with facts. Thats just crass.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:23:28pm |
re: #529 Creeping Eruption
Leaves you a present in the middle of the night? On top or under the pillow?
Usually behind the couch. Canine night delivery
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:23:29pm |
re: #523 CommonCents
I shudder to think what it leaves under the pillow.
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Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:23:34pm |
Also note that if you bathroom floor drains are drying out it's a sign that your janitorial firm isn't wet mopping the floors regularly as the contract usually calls for.
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subsailor68 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:23:37pm |
Hi all! When I read the posts about Obama's intelligence, education, and so on, I'm reminded of Ronald Reagan's observation:
It isn't that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so.
:-)
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:23:57pm |
re: #438 Desert Dog
I grant you the better educated, but I question his intelligence. I think he is vastly over-rated in that department. He can read a speech very well. That is the special skill that brought him into the White House. Take him off the TOTUS and he is mealy-mouthed and incoherent. And, so far, his vision, his plan for the the USA, is rehashed garbage the left has been regurgitating for years. Spending ourselves to death is not very smart. Giving your enemies hope and slapping your allies is not very smart either. I cannot think of much Obama has done or said while in office that smacks of "super intelligent".
I don't think he is a genius at all. I just think he is smarter than most of those that the GOP is currently putting up.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:24:01pm |
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Occasional Reader Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:24:05pm |
Annnd, I'm back, after having crashed yet again, and having had to re-open and log back in... slowwwly... yet again. Posting to LGF with IE7 has been simply fooking AWFUL today.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:24:09pm |
re: #526 Creeping Eruption
Oh Frock, not another pun thread
All the hem and hawing just skirts the issue.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:24:14pm |
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soxfan4life Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:25:05pm |
re: #539 subsailor68
Hi all! When I read the posts about Obama's intelligence, education, and so on, I'm reminded of Ronald Reagan's observation:
It isn't that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so.
:-)
I certainly do miss that man, not in a gay kind of way or anything.
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:25:08pm |
re: #525 doppelganglander
Please don't. I'm having a rough day and it's giving me a lift.
Some think it hard to come up with these puns, but for me, it's a cinch.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:25:14pm |
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Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:25:31pm |
re: #542 Occasional Reader
Annnd, I'm back, after having crashed yet again, and having had to re-open and log back in... slowwwly... yet again. Posting to LGF with IE7 has been simply fooking AWFUL today.
What OS are you running OR?
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:25:40pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:25:46pm |
re: #523 CommonCents
or the flatulence fairy
Flatulgeist, Flatulgeist
Every morning you greet me
Small and brown, lumpy and bright
You look spooky to meet me
Big of smell you may grow and grow
Smell and grow forever
Flatulgeist Flatulgeist
Bless my office forever
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Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:25:47pm |
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:26:02pm |
re: #432 LudwigVanQuixote
Obama, in each of those cases.
And I'm one of those who might have voted for the Senile Sexist if it hadn't been for Sarah.
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LoquaciousLady Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:26:10pm |
Maybe it's time for FOX to check Beck into some type of talk-show host rehab. Give him sometime to watch his past shows in private, watch disney movies, and talk with other disavowed talk show hosts like Imus. Then we could return and apologize for his behavior and claim it was brought on by some clinical anxiety caused by Democrat majorities.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:26:13pm |
re: #538 Thanos
Also note that if you bathroom floor drains are drying out it's a sign that your janitorial firm isn't wet mopping the floors regularly as the contract usually calls for.
Mopping a floor will not necessarily fill the trap with water. BTW - Sewer gas can be quite deadly. Drop some water down there.
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:26:20pm |
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Rancher Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:26:24pm |
Coming soon: Birth Panels.
Bed shortage forces 4,000 mothers to give birth in lifts, offices and hospital toilets
'It shows the incredible waste that has taken place that mothers are getting this sort of sub-standard treatment despite Gordon Brown's tripling of spending on the NHS.
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LGoPs Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:26:27pm |
re: #514 Sharmuta
You're just trying to spin the step. The right is currently, by and large, calling the electorate stupid. And blaming the press isn't much different. We lost because we didn't offer a better product. Full stop.
I agree that we didn't offer a particularly good product in McCain, but he was eminently more qualified than this poseur Obama, who had absolutely no product to offer other than empty hope and change platitudes. And to say that the media's cover for him is spin, so to speak, is just wrong.
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Creeping Eruption Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:26:46pm |
re: #543 CommonCents
All the hem and hawing just skirts the issue.
Just as long as the thread is kilt, I am ok.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:26:52pm |
OT: Wow - Crazy Pam is posting the address, phone number and pics of a Muslim family's home. She's going to have some legal problems. God forbid the family gets attacked over this.
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:26:56pm |
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Occasional Reader Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:27:05pm |
And again! Page crapped out.
Okay, so much for posting until I get home. Posts just hang up with the little spinning wheel goin' round and round. They post... but I have to close the page, log back on, blah blah blah, to find that out. WAY too damn frustrating. So, I bid you all adieu, for now.
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CommonCents Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:27:12pm |
re: #537 calcajun
I shudder to think what it leaves under the pillow.
Hi Kiddos, it's Mr. Hankey the Chrsitmas pooh.
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itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:27:20pm |
re: #468 cronus
Hasn't this been kicking around for days already?
He probably should, and he probably won't, is how I see it.
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:27:29pm |
re: #560 Killgore Trout
OT: Wow - Crazy Pam is posting the address, phone number and pics of a Muslim family's home. She's going to have some legal problems. God forbid the family gets attacked over this.
New meaning to the term "right nutter"
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jcm Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:27:38pm |
re: #557 Rancher
Coming soon: Birth Panels.
Bed shortage forces 4,000 mothers to give birth in lifts, offices and hospital toilets
Government mandates 13 month gestation due to waiting lists.
//
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:28:08pm |
re: #558 LGoPs
And to say that the media's cover for him is spin, so to speak, is just wrong.
Except I didn't say that. It's just a different take on blaming the electorate, imo. Blaming the media allows us to not look at ourselves, where we went wrong, and what we can do to improve that in ourselves next time.
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soxfan4life Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:28:34pm |
re: #558 LGoPs
I agree that we didn't offer a particularly good product in McCain, but he was eminently more qualified than this poseur Obama, who had absolutely no product to offer other than empty hope and change platitudes. And to say that the media's cover for him is spin, so to speak, is just wrong.
When McCain didn't step up and stop 0bama's comparisons of him to Bush's 3rd term he was done for.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:28:45pm |
re: #560 Killgore Trout
1st comment on Crazy Pam's thread...
It's like weeding threw a briar patch. The more these devils are exposed, the more we will learn how to get rid of them.Rock On...
Yeesh.
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:28:47pm |
re: #560 Killgore Trout
OT: Wow - Crazy Pam is posting the address, phone number and pics of a Muslim family's home. She's going to have some legal problems. God forbid the family gets attacked over this.
What possible reason could she have for doing that?
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:29:14pm |
re: #560 Killgore Trout
OT: Wow - Crazy Pam is posting the address, phone number and pics of a Muslim family's home. She's going to have some legal problems. God forbid the family gets attacked over this.
What did they do to her?
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Danny Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:29:24pm |
re: #524 Oh no...Sand People!
So who do we want influencing the sheeple? Beck or Olby?
I'll take door number 3. OK so that's not an option, and I see what you are saying. I was just noting that the talking heads can influence govt policy and should be countered when they promote bad stuff.
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cronus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:29:59pm |
re: #564 itellu3times
Hasn't this been kicking around for days already?
He probably should, and he probably won't, is how I see it.
The purported shouting match and a verbal threat of resignation has been kicking around. This rumor is about him actually sending the President his resignation today. I'm actually a little dubious but just thought I'd post it as an FYI with the necessary caveat.
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:30:22pm |
re: #539 subsailor68
Hi all! When I read the posts about Obama's intelligence, education, and so on, I'm reminded of Ronald Reagan's observation:
It isn't that Liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so much that isn't so.
:-)
* * * *
Great one! Now what did he say about intellectuals and Marx?
Intellectuals read Marx.
Regular folks understand Marx?
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:30:30pm |
re: #570 doppelganglander
What possible reason could she have for doing that?
It's about the Rifqa Bary case
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calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:30:40pm |
re: #571 buzzsawmonkey
The new Beau Gestation program covers you from birth to Viking funeral.
Yes, but will they Zinderneuf per-natal treatment?
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jcm Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:30:46pm |
re: #571 buzzsawmonkey
The new Beau Gestation program covers you from birth to Viking funeral.
That will bring a legion of foreigners.
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:30:57pm |
re: #576 lawhawk
The stupid is strong in her?
Well, we know that. I was hoping for something a little more specific. I'd check it out myself but my hazmat suit is at the cleaners.
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MrSilverDragon Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:31:37pm |
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Stinky Beaumont Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:31:42pm |
re: #562 Occasional Reader
And again! Page crapped out.
Okay, so much for posting until I get home. Posts just hang up with the little spinning wheel goin' round and round. They post... but I have to close the page, log back on, blah blah blah, to find that out. WAY too damn frustrating. So, I bid you all adieu, for now.
No problems over here with IE8 in Vista... except the general piggishness of IE.
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The Shadow Do Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:32:04pm |
re: #496 alegrias
* * * *
IQ Quiz: Who goes to fast food joints for HEALTHY food?
Since 1968 I have regularly consumed the Big Mac. In fact I had one yesterday.
What would happen if I discontinued this practice, what would happen to me, to you?
I, for one, will continue to consume the Big Mac. I am taking no chances with my health!
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alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:32:59pm |
re: #554 LoquaciousLady
Maybe it's time for FOX to check Beck into some type of talk-show host rehab. Give him sometime to watch his past shows in private, watch disney movies, and talk with other disavowed talk show hosts like Imus. Then we could return and apologize for his behavior and claim it was brought on by some clinical anxiety caused by Democrat majorities.
* * *
What, and lose money & market share in this economy?
Who wants to shut down ANY profitable businesses right now?
Our treasury needs Fox News Cable's taxes.
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:33:03pm |
re: #579 Killgore Trout
It's about the Rifqa Bary case
Ah. Personally, I think the girl has a legitimate fear of returning to her family and she should be allowed to stay in foster care in Florida. Pam is insane and if anyone pays attention to her at all she'll only be making matters worse.
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Floppydusk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:33:16pm |
More suggestions for the use of the word "Pimp(s)" in future LGF headlines:
Pelosi pimps Kennedy's death to promote collectivist health care reform.
Hillary pimps Bill to free (future North Korean hostage)
NRA Pimps lawful use of firearms for personal protection to promote 2nd amendment rights.
Sotomayor pimps Che in controversial majority opinion overturning the 4th amendment.
Glen Beck is released from reeducation camp, becomes a pimp.
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midwestgak Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:33:19pm |
re: #573 Danny
Danny, why are you stirring things up in the Atlantic?/
| 590 |
Racer X Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:33:32pm |
re: #560 Killgore Trout
OT: Wow - Crazy Pam is posting the address, phone number and pics of a Muslim family's home. She's going to have some legal problems. God forbid the family gets attacked over this.
I wonder how she would feel if someone posted HER home address and phone number?
| 591 |
Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:33:49pm |
re: #569 Killgore Trout
1st comment on Crazy Pam's thread...
Yeesh.
Not only yeesh.
I hope she get's a big CAIR lawsuit for this. I'll contribute.
And people who post other people's addresses on the net really ought not to be surprised if they get unexpected visits.
Geller's kids should be taken away from her for their own good.
| 592 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:33:53pm |
re: #557 Rancher
Coming soon: Birth Panels.
Bed shortage forces 4,000 mothers to give birth in lifts, offices and hospital toilets
Well, the liberals think they shouldn't be giving birth anyway; they think the planet is overpopulated.
| 593 |
subsailor68 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:33:56pm |
Okay, I'm really on board now with respect to the Feds taking over health care!!
Feds: Stimulus money sent to 4,000 cons
Cause, ya know...what could possibly go wrong?
| 594 |
soxfan4life Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:34:05pm |
re: #590 Racer X
I wonder how she would feel if someone posted HER home address and phone number?
And no one showed up or called.
| 595 |
Danny Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:34:06pm |
re: #589 midwestgak
Danny, why are you stirring things up in the Atlantic?/
Am I a tropical storm? Cool!
| 596 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:34:22pm |
re: #588 Floppydusk
You could just start your own blog if you don't like the titles of my posts. Go ahead, it takes 5 minutes and it's free. Then I'll come over and complain to you about what you post.
| 597 |
itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:34:43pm |
re: #575 cronus
The purported shouting match and a verbal threat of resignation has been kicking around. This rumor is about him actually sending the President his resignation today. I'm actually a little dubious but just thought I'd post it as an FYI with the necessary caveat.
I see. Well, if true, would Obama accept? And if not, would Panetta insist? I have trouble groking this. Simpler if Panetta slipped in the kitchen or was hit by a truck, right?
| 598 |
Eowyn2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:34:53pm |
re: #459 reine.de.tout
I'm not sure people are "attacking" him because he is well-educated.
My problem is that he seems to know so little in spite of being so well educated.
I think it is because his world is so narrow despite his education. He seems unable to accept that he may actually be wrong about anything regarding the running of this country. He doesn't listen to the people on the opposite side of the aisle, he doesn't listen to the blue dogs, he certainly isn't listening to the people at the town halls who are so disgruntled. Instead, everything is being blamed on Republican Shills. Only the shills are at the town hall. Only the shills are talking. Everyone is being paid off by the Republican Party.
| 599 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:35:08pm |
re: #448 albusteve
I could care less who is supposedly "smarter and better educated"...that's for so called intellectual elites that make assumptions about such matters
1. You actually don't think it's good for a leader of a nation to be smart?
2. What's wrong with a good education?
If wanting smart, educated people in positions of power makes me an 'intellectual elite', OK.
| 600 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:35:13pm |
re: #586 alegrias
* * *
What, and lose money & market share in this economy?Who wants to shut down ANY profitable businesses right now?
Our treasury needs Fox News Cable's taxes.
Fox isn't going to stop being a business. It's incumbent upon the consumers to alter the business' behavior. That's why it's so "thoughtful" of Sarah to make sure da krazy continues by promoting it.
| 601 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:35:13pm |
re: #560 Killgore Trout
OT: Wow - Crazy Pam is posting the address, phone number and pics of a Muslim family's home. She's going to have some legal problems. God forbid the family gets attacked over this.
She has no idea the legal liability that she just stepped into.
| 602 |
doubter4444 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:35:15pm |
re: #358 Sharmuta
Obama did not alienate the educated. He carried them handily.
It don't matter.
People just say stuff to spout off.
| 603 |
alegrias Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:35:17pm |
re: #568 soxfan4life
When McCain didn't step up and stop 0bama's comparisons of him to Bush's 3rd term he was done for.
* * * *
When McCain SUSPENDED his campaign, as Ross Perot did, to "come to Washington and fix the economy", he also lost big momentum.
| 604 |
itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:35:22pm |
re: #584 Stinky Beaumont
No problems over here with IE8 in Vista... except the general piggishness of IE.
Does IE8 go all molasses on long threads like IE7 did?
| 605 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:35:27pm |
re: #561 calcajun
They'd be a fool not to take Advantage of it.
Well, he cries like a baby so maybe he needs to be Pampered.
| 607 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:35:57pm |
re: #604 itellu3times
Does IE8 go all molasses on long threads like IE7 did?
Yes. It stinks on longer threads. Firefox or Safari are much better in Windows.
| 608 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:36:09pm |
re: #601 CyanSnowHawk
She has no idea the legal liability that she just stepped into.
I actually hope that she gets nailed to the wall for it.
| 609 |
calcajun Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:36:32pm |
re: #605 Kosh's Shadow
Well, he cries like a baby so maybe he needs to be Pampered.
And he thought he was Desitined for greatness.
| 610 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:36:42pm |
re: #587 doppelganglander
I think the story is pretty fishy. The girl doesn't even know what an honor killing is. The Pastor who's taken her in is a little creepy too. It's a strange case but there's no reason to post pictures of the family's home. It's a very dangerous thing to do.
| 611 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:36:49pm |
re: #607 Charles
Yes. It stinks on longer threads. Firefox or Safari are much better in Windows.
I've tried all three, so far safari works best for me.
| 614 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:37:44pm |
re: #588 Floppydusk
re: #596 Charles
You could just start your own blog if you don't like the titles of my posts
Floppy
Two things
1) Next time I'm a guest at your house, please remind me to shit on the floor and wipe my ass on the drapes
2) If you DO start your own blog I will be one of the many many people that do NOT post there!
| 615 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:37:45pm |
re: #596 Charles
You could just start your own blog if you don't like the titles of my posts. Go ahead, it takes 5 minutes and it's free. Then I'll come over and complain to you about what you post.
Or, as said on Mr. Show, "I don't go down to where YOU work and slap the dick out of your mouth!"
| 616 |
cliffster Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:37:50pm |
re: #607 Charles
Yes. It stinks on longer threads. Firefox or Safari are much better in Windows.
Chrome is pretty too.
| 617 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:37:50pm |
**WARNING!**
Logging into LGF with Internet Explorer may be hazardous to your sanity.
| 618 |
Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:38:00pm |
re: #591 Cato the Elder
I'm guessing she sent somebody to the family home to photograph it. Very creepy.
| 621 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:38:23pm |
re: #588 Floppydusk
I have an idea. If you don't like the titles that Charles creates for HIS BLOG, then git and go start your own blog. Do you normally shit in your hosts living rooms?
You know, I probably only agree with Charles and his politics about 1/4 of the time, but rarely do I even care to tell him what to do or not what to do.
You got a lot of fucking nerve.
(ok, the old Walter there, but it bugs me)
| 623 |
Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:39:29pm |
re: #584 Stinky Beaumont
No problems over here with IE8 in Vista... except the general piggishness of IE.
All of in IT had a conference call with the CIO today about our upgrade path to Windows 7.. He was at a meeting with all the big Corporations with Microsoft discussing the upgrade path.. MS Said currently there is no upgrade path to Windows 7 except though Vista.. My Boss said he was literally boo'd off stage.. The whole thing has been put on hold and back to the drawing Board for MS.. My Boss said...We need to start looking into Enterprise Google Apps over the web...And other OS Options..I was stunned...
/Hurray!
| 624 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:39:31pm |
re: #612 Ben Hur
This is completely inappropriate, to be digging into the private life of a family at the behest of a bunch of bigoted fanatics. Please don't post that crap here.
| 625 |
Ben Hur Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:39:40pm |
IT's the business address registered on a site that gives public access to anyone.
| 626 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:39:43pm |
re: #619 Capoftex
Boy- do you have a lot of assumptions or what?
| 627 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:40:24pm |
re: #619 Capoftex
Bye now! Have fun storming the castle.
| 628 |
Ben Hur Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:40:26pm |
re: #624 Charles
This is completely inappropriate, to be digging into the private life of a family at the behest of a bunch of bigoted fanatics. Please don't post that crap here.
Just pointing out that she did not post the families home address, and the info posted about the business is in the public domain.
| 629 |
Eowyn2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:40:27pm |
re: #420 alegrias
* * * *
Intellectualism per se, for example, the best & brightest minds, did such a great job on the Vietnam War.Jimmy Carter was SUPER intellectual, a nuclear engineer. AWESOME!
Oddly enough, Carter's Presidency stunk. You probably disagree, as an intellectualist.
Jimmy was not a nulear engineer. recheck your facts. Jimmy carter was a peanut farmer.
| 630 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:40:34pm |
re: #607 Charles
Yes. It stinks on longer threads. Firefox or Safari are much better in Windows.
Please, if you use IE and large threads start slowing down, at least get Safari. I am on a 2003 HP box (was top of the line in 2003) and I couldn't even use IE when a thread got to 500 plus entries.
Safari is working fine, really fine on this box. If anyone is using EI and having problems, there is only one answer to your problem, get Safari (or Firefox).
There is not other answer. That's the bottom line. It's IE and nothing else.
| 631 |
Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:40:51pm |
re: #625 Ben Hur
IT's the business address registered on a site that gives public access to anyone.
And posted on a hate blog. Nice.
| 632 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:41:09pm |
re: #479 lawhawk
But you see, this is not what I am arguing as a main point. All politician equivocate and dissemble. They are very good at using many words t say nothing - all of them.
My point is that you will never hear a left winger going on about how Ivy league educated, and northeastern elite educational William F. Buckley was like it was a bad thing.
| 633 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:41:28pm |
Looks like I came just in time for the BBQ.
| 634 |
Shiplord Kirel Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:41:33pm |
re: #588 Floppydusk
More suggestions for the use of the word "Pimp(s)" in future LGF headlines:
Pelosi pimps Kennedy's death to promote collectivist health care reform.
Hillary pimps Bill to free (future North Korean hostage)
NRA Pimps lawful use of firearms for personal protection to promote 2nd amendment rights.
Sotomayor pimps Che in controversial majority opinion overturning the 4th amendment.
Glen Beck is released from reeducation camp, becomes a pimp.
Ok. Batshit conspira-loon pimps violent revolution, Freepers line up to pay.
The subject here is a new column by conspiracy pimp Gerald Celente, who is sort of an Alex Jones without the mouth foam or the charm of a Bigfoot-UFO background. The linked site, "Above Top Secret" is overtly anti-military, emphasizing allegedly top secret military plans and especially facilities as evidence for whatever it is Obama is getting the military to do to us; presumably a mass roundup of creationists, tea-baggers, tax rebels, and other right-thinking folk.
| 635 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:41:41pm |
re: #610 Killgore Trout
I think the story is pretty fishy. The girl doesn't even know what an honor killing is. The Pastor who's taken her in is a little creepy too. It's a strange case but there's no reason to post pictures of the family's home. It's a very dangerous thing to do.
I've read a bunch of coverage of the story, and I can't figure out who's on first, or which way is up. The pastor does seem just a little odd. The parents seem fairly normal, but so do a lot of abusive parents. I just hope this child stays safe.
| 636 |
What, me worry? Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:41:42pm |
re: #459 reine.de.tout
I'm not sure people are "attacking" him because he is well-educated.
My problem is that he seems to know so little in spite of being so well educated.
People are always attacking him for being well-educated. A number of posters (most of whom are gone now) were fond of telling me way back when that a Harvard education didn't mean squat which as Ludwig says is more of a reflection of their own ignorance than those who went to Harvard.
Meanwhile they supported the Greatest Orator of Our Time, George W. Bush! Bush didn't need a teleprompter! No way! He just made words up!
| 637 |
Rancher Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:41:46pm |
re: #514 Sharmuta
You're just trying to spin the step. The right is currently, by and large, calling the electorate stupid. And blaming the press isn't much different. We lost because we didn't offer a better product. Full stop.
The electorate was stupid. I was there, I watched it, so did you. No one wanted to believe Obama was who we said he was, they wanted him because he was young, Black, charming and well spoken. At least that was most of the voters I talked to, including Mrs. Rancher.
| 638 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:42:31pm |
re: #629 Eowyn2
Jimmy was not a nulear engineer. recheck your facts. Jimmy carter was a peanut farmer.
While in the service, he worked on a nuclear powered vessel iirc. What his actual duties were on the ship I would have to research
| 639 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:42:44pm |
re: #618 Killgore Trout
I'm guessing she sent somebody to the family home to photograph it. Very creepy.
Exceedingly.
| 640 |
Killian Bundy Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:42:49pm |
Star Trek aftershaves for science fiction fans who want to smell good
The three scents include one, Tiberius, that takes its branding from the middle name of James T Kirk, the captain of the USS Enterprise played by William Shatner.
It combines citron, black pepper and cedar top notes with vanilla, white musk, and sandalwood base notes to create a "casual yet commanding" aroma, according to the creators Genki Wear.
"Tiberius Cologne for men is difficult to define and impossible to refuse. In any universe," the product website states.
Also available is the Red Shirt Cologne, which is inspired by the strong-but-stupid extras who tend to come a cropper on Stark Trek missions.
It is being sold under the slogan: "Smell like the future, because tomorrow may never come."
Women trekkies are also catered for with the Ponn Farr scent, which apparently takes its name from the Vulcan mating cycle.
/mmm, the smell of Vulcan mating cycle
| 641 |
Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:43:00pm |
re: #573 Danny
I'll take door number 3. OK so that's not an option, and I see what you are saying. I was just noting that the talking heads can influence govt policy and should be countered when they promote bad stuff.
I completely agree. Getting people to focus on the 'meat' of the issues as opposed to all the 'condiments and fluff' is going to require a herculean effort.
| 642 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:43:03pm |
re: #634 Shiplord Kirel
Ok. Batshit conspira-loon pimps violent revolution, Freepers line up to pay.
The subject here is a new column by conspiracy pimp Gerald Celente, who is sort of an Alex Jones without the mouth foam or the charm of a Bigfoot-UFO background. The linked site, "Above Top Secret" is overtly anti-military, emphasizing allegedly top secret military plans and especially facilities as evidence for whatever it is Obama is getting the military to do to us; presumably a mass roundup of creationists, tea-baggers, tax rebels, and other right-thinking folk.
Good grief!
It looks like the admins removed the text of the post.
| 643 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:43:06pm |
re: #637 Rancher
These are all excuses so the right doesn't have to look at where it went wrong. This is the political version of denial.
| 644 |
kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:43:17pm |
re: #629 Eowyn2
Jimmy was not a nulear engineer. recheck your facts. Jimmy carter was a peanut farmer.
[Link: www.history.navy.mil...]
And he pronounced it nukular and nobody ragged him for it like they did Bush.
| 645 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:43:25pm |
re: #638 sattv4u2
While in the service, he worked on a nuclear powered vessel iirc. What his actual duties were on the ship I would have to research
He was an officer on a nuclear submarine. That means he was a nuclear engineer and did watches with the reactor.
| 646 |
cliffster Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:43:30pm |
re: #632 LudwigVanQuixote
My point is that you will never hear a left winger going on about how Ivy league educated, and northeastern elite educational William F. Buckley was like it was a bad thing.
Never ever? Like, never never never ever?
| 647 |
~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:43:36pm |
Ugh, just came across this charming article from Florida: Dove Outreach Center t-shirts at school
More children from the Dove World Outreach Center arrived Tuesday at area public schools with shirts bearing the message "Islam is of the Devil" and were sent home for violation of the school district's dress code when they declined to change clothes or cover the anti-Muslim statement on their clothing.
//Because insulting people and being obnoxious is the best way to get your message out.
| 648 |
Ben Hur Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:43:48pm |
re: #631 Cato the Elder
And posted on a hate blog. Nice.
I'm not saying she isn't a nut.
But she wasn't posting private home addresses or phone numbers.
| 650 |
doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:43:58pm |
re: #610 Killgore Trout
I think the story is pretty fishy. The girl doesn't even know what an honor killing is. The Pastor who's taken her in is a little creepy too. It's a strange case but there's no reason to post pictures of the family's home. It's a very dangerous thing to do.
I don't care for the variety of Christianity she's turned to, and I hate the fact that she seems to be being used by the people who supposedly want to protect her. I was really surprised to learn she's a cheerleader; I wonder if she wears the standard (skimpy) uniform. The fact that she is allowed to participate at all speaks well of the parents, but I don't discount the notion that conversion may be just too much for them to accept.
And yes, if someone gets hurt because of Pam's thoughtless action, I hope they sue the pants off of her.
| 651 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:44:23pm |
re: #630 Walter L. Newton
I got server timeouts a couple of minutes ago, though.
However, I find LGF to be slow today on long threads on Firefox, WinXP.
It is very bad on my wheezing work machine with 1 GB memory, but much better on my Vista machine with 4GB. I think the work machine need a reboot anyway.
| 652 |
doubter4444 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:44:49pm |
re: #368 Oh no...Sand People!
Of course he hopes he is wrong! What comfort can one take in thinking their country is being sold out. What comfort is it to know that 1 out of 10 people don't have a job and that the 'Leader' is pushing policies, borderline deliberately, to cause more unemployment? Sure he makes a boat load off of the 'populist' message, but at the end of the day, the guy may be nuts, but he doesn't hate people and seems, in my opinion, concerned about the general welfare of his neighbors.
I hope you forgot the /// tag.
It is an ACT, or at least it started that way.
But he's in it for the ratings.
And perhaps he is a loon, too. But to think he cares one whit about his fellow citizens is naive.
And while he may not hate people; he must despise them as he cleans up on their gullibility, and cashes those big ol checks.
| 653 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:44:54pm |
| 654 |
Shiplord Kirel Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:44:57pm |
re: #642 Charles
A couple of years ago, they would have deleted the whole string in a heartbeat.
| 655 |
fizzlogic Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:45:01pm |
re: #5 Charles
Pitiful? This is as expected. Hell, the GOP left me a long time ago. McCain picking her was just confirmation that the Party had gone off the deep end.
| 656 |
Ben Hur Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:45:08pm |
re: #635 SanFranciscoZionist
I've read a bunch of coverage of the story, and I can't figure out who's on first, or which way is up. The pastor does seem just a little odd. The parents seem fairly normal, but so do a lot of abusive parents. I just hope this child stays safe.
We'll know soon enough.
| 657 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:45:16pm |
re: #646 cliffster
Never ever? Like, never never never ever?
OK, fair enough, if you can find me a moo bat bitching that Buckley was Ivy educated like an Ivy education is a bad thing, then I will grant it to you. However, it is not something common at all, and I have never seen it.
| 658 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:45:36pm |
Seems more people want to melt down over beck than flame out by hating Ted Kennedy. Not sure what to make of that.
| 659 |
BlackFedora Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:45:46pm |
Sorry to go OT but this was an interesting read and really kind of makes me uncomfortable if it is accurate and not a complete and utter distortion.
| 660 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:46:13pm |
re: #658 Sharmuta
Seems more people want to melt down over beck than flame out by hating Ted Kennedy. Not sure what to make of that.
Strange days indeed...
| 661 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:46:16pm |
re: #619 Capoftex
Nothing quite like shouting across the room (comment) when a nice private whisper (email) would have been appropriate. What's the name of that loud guy in the Dilbert strips?
/I wonder Charles, do you get barraged with email containing these same sentiments?
| 662 |
itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:46:41pm |
re: #617 Sharmuta
**WARNING!**
Logging into LGF with Internet Explorer may be hazardous to your sanity.
Basically IE6 went fail when LGF got whatever enhancements last week, if Charles did a detect and just rejected IE6 attempts to connect, he'd be doing people a favor.
I'm finding Firefox also makes a bunch of other web sites that have always seemed slow fly beautifully as well. I had no idea.
New technology project at work was spec'd as still supporting IE6/7, but it's also doing Ajax and I dunno what else. Now, I think that is totally misguided. Sounds like Microsoft is having trouble staying on the road.
| 663 |
MrSilverDragon Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:46:56pm |
re: #649 buzzsawmonkey
Jimmy Carter took a back seat to the Inanimate Carbon Rod.
I'm amused by the metaphor of Homer Simpson to Carter... although at times, Homer makes me laugh, so he's got that on his side.
| 664 |
Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:46:56pm |
re: #610 Killgore Trout
I think the story is pretty fishy. The girl doesn't even know what an honor killing is. The Pastor who's taken her in is a little creepy too. It's a strange case but there's no reason to post pictures of the family's home. It's a very dangerous thing to do.
Where would the wrath wroth point at if this were a Christian girl runaway from home to cohabit with an elderly male in another state?
| 665 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:47:00pm |
re: #647 ~Fianna
Ugh, just came across this charming article from Florida: Dove Outreach Center t-shirts at school
//Because insulting people and being obnoxious is the best way to get your message out.
Maybe it is a hint that their "dove of peace" is roasted and stuffed.
| 666 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:47:03pm |
re: #634 Shiplord Kirel
Ok. Batshit conspira-loon pimps violent revolution, Freepers line up to pay.
The subject here is a new column by conspiracy pimp Gerald Celente, who is sort of an Alex Jones without the mouth foam or the charm of a Bigfoot-UFO background. The linked site, "Above Top Secret" is overtly anti-military, emphasizing allegedly top secret military plans and especially facilities as evidence for whatever it is Obama is getting the military to do to us; presumably a mass roundup of creationists, tea-baggers, tax rebels, and other right-thinking folk.
Oh jeez. And to think I used to post over there. What a shithole FR has become.
| 667 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:47:14pm |
re: #646 cliffster
Never ever? Like, never never never ever?
I know many people across the leftist spectrum. I have never heard a one of them talk about a politician's education as though it was a bad thing.
| 668 |
cronus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:47:14pm |
The site was also dragging in Firefox for me. Just opened back up in Safari seems to be running fine.
| 669 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:47:33pm |
re: #645 LudwigVanQuixote
He was an officer on a nuclear submarine. That means he was a nuclear engineer and did watches with the reactor.
I was recently talking to a friend about his former Navy career. When he served, he wanted to be on a nuclear sub. Because of an arrest for something he did when he was 16 or 17, something that was pretty much a misdemeanor, he couldn't get the proper clearance.
I wonder if our current president, with his admitted drug use, and associations with people who were members of radical organizations, could get that clearance?
| 671 |
LGoPs Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:47:38pm |
re: #652 doubter4444
I hope you forgot the /// tag.
It is an ACT, or at least it started that way.
But he's in it for the ratings.
And perhaps he is a loon, too. But to think he cares one whit about his fellow citizens is naive. And while he may not hate people; he must despise them as he cleans up on their gullibility, and cashes those big ol checks.
Link, please?
| 672 |
Danny Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:47:44pm |
re: #653 Charles
Did I read that right? WorldNetDaily cites a source that undermines Bary's side of the story?
| 673 |
lawhawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:48:05pm |
re: #632 LudwigVanQuixote
Except they did precisely that to President Bush. Repeatedly.
Maybe it had something to do with the fact that President Bush appeared to speak with marbles in his mouth and seemed incoherent, while WFB could trounce anyone in verbal sparring, including Gore Vidal.
| 674 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:48:06pm |
re: #668 cronus
The site was also dragging in Firefox for me. Just opened back up in Safari seems to be running fine.
Safari is the best. The occasional issues I have with it are minimal compared to IE and even FF.
| 675 |
~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:48:15pm |
re: #659 BlackFedora
Sorry to go OT but this was an interesting read and really kind of makes me uncomfortable if it is accurate and not a complete and utter distortion.
It certainly raises some questions. I'm left-leaning and a big supporter of arts funding and this makes me uncomfortable, for what it's worth.
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doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:48:26pm |
re: #641 Oh no...Sand People!
I completely agree. Getting people to focus on the 'meat' of the issues as opposed to all the 'condiments and fluff' is going to require a herculean effort.
FluffTM is a great condiment. It goes very well with peanut butter.
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The Shadow Do Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:48:32pm |
re: #645 LudwigVanQuixote
He was an officer on a nuclear submarine. That means he was a nuclear engineer and did watches with the reactor.
He was not a nuclear engineer.
Carter trained for the position of engineering officer in submarine USS Seawolf, then under construction.[9] Carter completed a non-credit introductory course in nuclear reactor power at Union College starting in March 1953.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:48:45pm |
re: #645 LudwigVanQuixote
He was an officer on a nuclear submarine. That means he was a nuclear engineer and did watches with the reactor.
Not sure where he got his nuclerar traing from, but all his service prior to being picked was as a Communications Officer, Sonar Officer, Electronics Officer, Gunnery Officer and Supply Officer[Link: www.history.navy.mil...]
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doubter4444 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:48:54pm |
re: #376 LudwigVanQuixote
Actually, just as a visceral reaction, I have many colleagues who were honestly having a hard time choosing between Obama and McCain.
As soon as McCain chose Palin the said to me - OK that settles it.
They voted for Obama in droves because they actually prefer people who are not openly hostile to intellectualism.
This.
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Ojoe Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:49:08pm |
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gregb Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:49:21pm |
re: #19 lawhawk
Sadly, she must be getting some seriously flawed advice on the matter, because Beck's views can and should put a serious crimp in her designs towards 2012. Beck is off the deep end, and it shows poor judgment on Palin's part to associate with him in this manner.
2.5 million viewers versus 1,000 or so who are actually paying attention. That seems to be the way new media works.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:49:24pm |
re: #647 ~Fianna
Ugh, just came across this charming article from Florida: Dove Outreach Center t-shirts at school
//Because insulting people and being obnoxious is the best way to get your message out.
Bigoted, aggressive, and looking for a show-down. Joy!
| 684 |
kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:49:33pm |
re: #670 buzzsawmonkey
I recall people of the Left sneering at what an uh-lee-test Buckley was, back in the Sixties and Seventies when he was in his heyday.
And, again, I do not recall hearing people talk about Obama's education being a bad thing, so much as talking about how little he seems to have gained from it. Maybe I need to get out more.
You're getting out plenty, Buzz.
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Killgore Trout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:49:35pm |
re: #635 SanFranciscoZionist
I just hope this child stays safe.
Agreed. I suspect it was a simple family dispute that has been blown way out of proportion.
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~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:49:50pm |
re: #662 itellu3times
Basically IE6 went fail when LGF got whatever enhancements last week, if Charles did a detect and just rejected IE6 attempts to connect, he'd be doing people a favor.
I'm finding Firefox also makes a bunch of other web sites that have always seemed slow fly beautifully as well. I had no idea.
New technology project at work was spec'd as still supporting IE6/7, but it's also doing Ajax and I dunno what else. Now, I think that is totally misguided. Sounds like Microsoft is having trouble staying on the road.
There's a really big move to just start scrapping IE6. It's a very, very broken browser. [Link: ie6update.com...] has a lot about why web designers want IE6 to join the dodo.
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cliffster Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:50:05pm |
re: #657 LudwigVanQuixote
OK, fair enough, if you can find me a moo bat bitching that Buckley was Ivy educated like an Ivy education is a bad thing, then I will grant it to you. However, it is not something common at all, and I have never seen it.
Among the pompous intellectual liberals, no. Among another of the liberal demographics - say, "Underprivileged" and "Undercultured", it would be a very common thing. You can't possibly believe that conservatives have a monopoly on reverse snootiness.
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LGoPs Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:50:15pm |
re: #658 Sharmuta
Seems more people want to melt down over beck than flame out by hating Ted Kennedy. Not sure what to make of that.
What's your point? Are you upset that people aren't bashing Kennedy? Seems to me that that shows good character, to not beat on a dead man.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:50:22pm |
re: #648 Ben Hur
I'm not saying she isn't a nut.
But she wasn't posting private home addresses or phone numbers.
Wrong. She posted the home address, with picture. Street number and name, town, state, ZIP.
On a hate site.
It's the same as if a jihadi were to do it to Robert Spencer.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:50:22pm |
re: #652 doubter4444
I hope you forgot the /// tag.
It is an ACT, or at least it started that way.
But he's in it for the ratings.
And perhaps he is a loon, too. But to think he cares one whit about his fellow citizens is naive.
And while he may not hate people; he must despise them as he cleans up on their gullibility, and cashes those big ol checks.
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Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:50:36pm |
re: #642 Charles
"The Second American Revolution" is picking up a lot of steam across several of the ugly sites this past month.
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Rancher Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:50:36pm |
Upon graduation from the Naval Academy Jimmy Carter served as a surface warfare officer for two years and then volunteered for the submarine force. He served as an engineer officer on a diesel submarine. In 1952 he started nuclear power school which was a six month course that leads to operator training but his father died in early 1953 and he resigned his commission to run the peanut farm.
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victor_yugo Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:50:37pm |
re: #657 LudwigVanQuixote
OK, fair enough, if you can find me a moo bat bitching that Buckley was Ivy educated like an Ivy education is a bad thing, then I will grant it to you. However, it is not something common at all, and I have never seen it.
Buckley's Ivy education is no longer available. Honest inquiry is not supported; it is punished. Just ask Larry Summers.
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CyanSnowHawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:50:38pm |
re: #629 Eowyn2
Jimmy was not a nuclear engineer. recheck your facts. Jimmy carter was a peanut farmer.
He was training in the US Navy Nuclear Power Program to be an engineering officer on a nuclear powered warship. I don't know if he completed that before he resigned his commission (after the death of his Father IIRC). That is where people get the nuclear engineer idea from.
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itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:51:03pm |
re: #376 LudwigVanQuixote
Actually, just as a visceral reaction, I have many colleagues who were honestly having a hard time choosing between Obama and McCain.
As soon as McCain chose Palin the said to me - OK that settles it.
They voted for Obama in droves because they actually prefer people who are not openly hostile to intellectualism.
FWIW, my barber, a Hispanic guy in a t-shirt, gave Palin as his reason for voting Obama, too.
Surprised me, but I didn't get into it with him, while he was holding sharp objects and all.
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Oh no...Sand People! Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:51:06pm |
re: #676 doppelganglander
FluffTM is a great condiment. It goes very well with peanut butter.
I had never heard of it...until I got married. She brought it back from her time spent in Maine and New Hampshire.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:51:11pm |
re: #650 doppelganglander
I don't care for the variety of Christianity she's turned to, and I hate the fact that she seems to be being used by the people who supposedly want to protect her. I was really surprised to learn she's a cheerleader; I wonder if she wears the standard (skimpy) uniform. The fact that she is allowed to participate at all speaks well of the parents, but I don't discount the notion that conversion may be just too much for them to accept.
And yes, if someone gets hurt because of Pam's thoughtless action, I hope they sue the pants off of her.
There seems to be no real evidence that the parents are a danger to the kid, although I feel the child's word should be taken. If she feels unsafe...but does she really, or was she TOLD she should? Impossible to tell at this point.
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gregb Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:51:18pm |
re: #662 itellu3times
New technology project at work was spec'd as still supporting IE6/7, but it's also doing Ajax and I dunno what else. Now, I think that is totally misguided. Sounds like Microsoft is having trouble staying on the road.
IE 8 in quarantine mode. Firefox 3 with add-ons of Noscript, User Agent, Flashblock, and Adblock are the only way to go in this day and age.
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~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:52:01pm |
re: #679 doubter4444
This.
That was where I came down on the issue, honestly. They hypothetical (or not, depending on who's side of the story you agree with) question about banning books was just too much for me. The rest of the stuff was just added incentive.
| 701 |
gregb Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:52:08pm |
re: #690 Oh no...Sand People!
...and he looks like Mel Brooks too...well at least in his younger days.
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cliffster Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:52:14pm |
re: #667 SanFranciscoZionist
I know many people across the leftist spectrum. I have never heard a one of them talk about a politician's education as though it was a bad thing.
You don't get "out in the county" much eh? ;)
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kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:52:16pm |
Say, did I miss Ludwig posting links to Obama's transcripts?
| 704 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:52:32pm |
re: #686 ~Fianna
There's a really big move to just start scrapping IE6. It's a very, very broken browser. [Link: ie6update.com...] has a lot about why web designers want IE6 to join the dodo.
And expecting Microsoft to support it would be like expecting GM to update your 1955 Bel Aire to be a hybrid. It is two versions out of date, and Microsoft will give away their latest version free. (So will Apple and Mozilla)
| 705 |
subsailor68 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:52:43pm |
re: #677 The Shadow Do
Hi Shadow! If Carter was on board Seawolf during new construction, it's very possible he was there before the reactor was even fueled. I went through new construction at Mare Island in the early 70's - sorry I can't remember precisely when we fueled, but it was certainly late in the process.
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jvic Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:52:45pm |
re: #21 Dr. Shalit
Let's just say the timing is certainly bad.
re: #204 Dr. Shalit
Last I heard, Sen. Kennedy just died. Perhaps a time to dial back a notch for a few days.
The following is not meant as an expression of political support, but--
In fairness, Palin's post about Kennedy's death is decent and civil.
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Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:52:51pm |
re: #662 itellu3times
Basically IE6 went fail when LGF got whatever enhancements last week, if Charles did a detect and just rejected IE6 attempts to connect, he'd be doing people a favor.
Works just fine over here in IE6 with Win XP Pro. Slow, but actually a bit faster than IE8 for some things.
I do have to disable the pop-out daily archives calendar in IE. You might have tried to log on when that was still causing a problem.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:53:08pm |
re: #688 LGoPs
What's your point? Are you upset that people aren't bashing Kennedy? Seems to me that that shows good character, to not beat on a dead man.
Did you purchase one of those Jump to Conclusion mats?
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itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:53:38pm |
re: #686 ~Fianna
There's a really big move to just start scrapping IE6. It's a very, very broken browser. [Link: ie6update.com...] has a lot about why web designers want IE6 to join the dodo.
Seems right to me. No doubt the problem is convincing non-IT execs who have no knowledge or direct connection to the getting it done. I'm mostly a back-end guy (ok, simmer down over there) these days, outside of mild net-surfing don't much do browser-based anything, so I guess I just fell way behind the curve on this.
| 710 |
jackfetch Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:53:47pm |
I used to live on LGF... but the recently, although I agree in many respects, the focus is far too heavily aimed at pointing out the foibles of creationists, outspoken media personalities like Beck, and mocking the birth certificate obsessed. While I don't find Beck to be a thoughtful, insightful commentator most of the time, his heart's in the right place even though he gets carried away. Creationists and birthers, meanwhile, thrive on publicity... any publicity.
I would rather look for a concrete solution, than make mockery of those with poor ones, and I just don't see that happening here any more. Is there anyone out there with the right ideas? Anyone we should be looking to support in future elections? Or are we just going to have a joint make-fun-of-Beck drum circle with the Koz kids?
| 711 |
Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:53:52pm |
re: #707 Charles
Works just fine over here in IE6 with Win XP Pro. Slow, but actually a bit faster than IE8 for some things.
I do have to disable the pop-out daily archives calendar in IE. You might have tried to log on when that was still causing a problem.
I'm using IE6 on my work laptop and not having any problems.
| 712 |
~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:54:00pm |
re: #683 SanFranciscoZionist
Bigoted, aggressive, and looking for a show-down. Joy!
Yeah, that was my first thought. My second thought was: I wonder who else is on their list of things that are of the Devil. Usually prejudice that strong doesn't travel alone - anyone who hates one group strongly, blindly and irrationally has a long list of "others" who need some good old fashioned convertin'.
| 713 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:54:10pm |
re: #647 ~Fianna
//Because insulting people and being obnoxious is the best way to get your message out.
Seems to be a popular idea on the left.
| 714 |
LGoPs Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:54:15pm |
re: #708 Sharmuta
Did you purchase one of those Jump to Conclusion mats?
Of course not. I just thought it was an odd observation. No offense meant.
| 715 |
Ojoe Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:54:26pm |
I hope Palin reads this thread and trim her sails accordingly. I still think she has a lot to offer the country, what with kicking the corrupt GOP old boys out of Alaska politics and all.
| 717 |
doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:54:44pm |
re: #697 Oh no...Sand People!
I had never heard of it...until I got married. She brought it back from her time spent in Maine and New Hampshire.
I guess it's an east coast thang. Jersey, represent!
/Kraft markets an identical product under the name marshmallow creme. It makes yummy fudge.
| 718 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:54:56pm |
re: #696 itellu3times
FWIW, my barber, a Hispanic guy in a t-shirt, gave Palin as his reason for voting Obama, too.
Surprised me, but I didn't get into it with him, while he was holding sharp objects and all.
Smart I believe. Very prudent.
| 719 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:55:06pm |
| 721 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:55:38pm |
re: #710 jackfetch
Frankly- if Charles didn't point out the problems with these people, no one else would.
| 723 |
lawhawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:55:41pm |
re: #708 Sharmuta
Did you purchase one of those Jump to Conclusion mats?
PC Load Letter?! I'll give you a PC Load Letter! /Michael Bolton
| 724 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:55:46pm |
re: #687 cliffster
Among the pompous intellectual liberals, no. Among another of the liberal demographics - say, "Underprivileged" and "Undercultured", it would be a very common thing. You can't possibly believe that conservatives have a monopoly on reverse snootiness.
NO I believe that their mouth pieces in the major national lime light do.
| 725 |
LoquaciousLady Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:55:53pm |
re: #659 BlackFedora
Sorry to go OT but this was an interesting read and really kind of makes me uncomfortable if it is accurate and not a complete and utter distortion.
If it is true many in the art community may possibly defect. Being part of the establishment generally does not appeal to them.
| 726 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:56:04pm |
re: #710 jackfetch
Start your own blog, jerk.
| 727 |
~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:56:15pm |
re: #691 Thanos
"The Second American Revolution" is picking up a lot of steam across several of the ugly sites this past month.
McCain picked up that meme yesterday, which was somewhat disturbing.
NOTE: I don't think McCain himself is allied with or supports the real nutters... but the language is starting to creep in to the discourse in places it wouldn't have happened even a month or so ago.
| 729 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:56:17pm |
re: #720 buzzsawmonkey
I'm not pleased at Palin's current course, but to tell the truth when she was chosen as McCain's Sancho she seemed a breath of fresh air.
I have been occasionally graced with the adjective "intellectual"--sometimes as praise, sometimes as a pejorative. And I will tell you that, as a putative innaleckchool, one of the hardest things I have had to work on in my adult life is to overcome the casual bigotry that innaleckchools have for everybody else.
I like the Sancho reference...
| 730 |
Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:56:20pm |
re: #710 jackfetch
1. start your own blog
2. you don't have to be here
| 731 |
gregb Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:56:21pm |
re: #683 SanFranciscoZionist
Bigoted, aggressive, and looking for a show-down. Joy!
I had a colleague that, 10 years after apartheid in South Africa had ended, wore a raggy t-shirt that said "F___ Racism" twice a week for a month. His academic advisor finally pulled him aside and told him while he has a right to wear it, his extra-curricular political opinions were irrelevant to his academic success.
| 732 |
doubter4444 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:56:25pm |
re: #405 Mad Mullah
He obviously carried the so-called intellectual elite, the leftists who mistakingly and arrogantly believe that they're above everybody else, but a typical Obama supporter does not strike me as being particularly educated or very informed. As a matter of fact, I'd say that Obama had the vast support of the masses of poor, ignorant people.
Dude, you are just flat out wrong.
Go to: [Link: www.fivethirtyeight.com...]
It won't change your mind, I imagine, but it'll show you that you should not just spout things that are pretty easily verifiable.
| 733 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:56:32pm |
re: #653 Charles
I believe Kiss wrote a theme song for that. Would one of the Lizards that isn't blocked from YouTube, like I am work, post the video?
| 735 |
Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:56:57pm |
re: #669 Mad Al-Jaffee
I was recently talking to a friend about his former Navy career. When he served, he wanted to be on a nuclear sub. Because of an arrest for something he did when he was 16 or 17, something that was pretty much a misdemeanor, he couldn't get the proper clearance.
I wonder if our current president, with his admitted drug use, and associations with people who were members of radical organizations, could get that clearance?
Hi Mad! That may not be exactly accurate.. I worked as a Nuke for the DOD for 20 years..I went through the whole FBI clearance for TS and then an OE clearance..Which is way higher than Top Secret.
1. It does matter what the crime is...There is no such thing as a pretty much misdemeanor...The crime matters.
2. Every TS clearance costs the Gov't 50,000 Dollars...They met your teachers, Neighbors, friends, life record...They know
3. Never lie...I knew people that admitted pot use as a kid and getting busted and passed clearance..You lie..It doesn't matter how small the offense...You Fail!
| 736 |
The Shadow Do Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:57:04pm |
re: #710 jackfetch
Or are we just going to have a joint make-fun-of-Beck drum circle with the Koz kids?
OK
| 737 |
Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:57:09pm |
re: #723 lawhawk
PC Load Letter?! I'll give you a PC Load Letter! /Michael Bolton
Why does it say paper jam when there IS NO PAPER JAM?
| 738 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:57:11pm |
re: #645 LudwigVanQuixote
He was an officer on a nuclear submarine. That means he was a nuclear engineer and did watches with the reactor.
Ummm,,, no it does NOT. Not every "officer on a nuclear sub" A) does watches with the reactor and B) makes them a nuclear engineer
| 739 |
theheat Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:57:15pm |
Well, there's thems that think Beck is a kook, given the evidence, and thems that blunder ahead, wave a flag, yell louder than the rest, and think he's the cat's pajamas. Palin falls in the second category. Sadly, she's not alone, but that doesn't make it any less appalling. A lot of people have fallen for Beck's theatrics, and mistaken them as truth.
More and more, she exposes herself as a dim-but-pretty opportunist. Reminds me of the kids I knew in grade school that faked reading phonetically. They memorized the words so they could say them and not be embarrassed, but had no understanding of how they went together, nor could they evolve past what they'd memorized. It would come back to bite them in the ass the rest of their lives.
She's skating on past fame and media attention, and something that resembles smarts, that absolutely isn't. Dumb with good intentions doesn't excite me. If that was the case, I'd say a Palin/Jenny McCarthy or Palin/Jessica Simpson ticket would be a swell idea. If nothing else, it would give the world 4 more years of endless jokes. Still, the thought makes me shudder. Ugh.
| 740 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:57:32pm |
re: #723 lawhawk
PC Load Letter?! I'll give you a PC Load Letter! /Michael Bolton
The scene where they kill the fax machine is at once one of the funniest and most disturbing things I've ever seen in a movie.
| 741 |
victor_yugo Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:57:32pm |
re: #679 doubter4444
They voted for Obama in droves because they actually prefer people who are not openly hostile to intellectualism.
I gotta LOL at that one.
0bama and his water-carriers are scared shitless of people with honest criticisms of the proposed health-care takeover. The only responses they can come up with involve either of the words "racist" or "evil," maybe both.
| 742 |
wee fury Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:57:47pm |
re: #710 jackfetch
Living at LGF may not be a good idea. I don't believe Charles serves food, provides toilet facilities, nor serves beer.
| 743 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:57:55pm |
re: #714 LGoPs
Of course not. I just thought it was an odd observation. No offense meant.
Perhaps it's an odd observation because it's an odd phenomenon. I'm proud that I spend my time in an online community that is capable of showing class like the thread for Senator Kennedy shows. I'm still trying to figure out why so many seem to want to fall on a sword for beck, however.
| 744 |
Ojoe Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:58:01pm |
| 745 |
itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:58:09pm |
re: #707 Charles
Works just fine over here in IE6 with Win XP Pro. Slow, but actually a bit faster than IE8 for some things.
I do have to disable the pop-out daily archives calendar in IE. You might have tried to log on when that was still causing a problem.
Aha. Does seem better now. Was failed for a day or so last weekend ... got me onto Firefox, so thank you, I ain't going back.
| 746 |
kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:58:12pm |
re: #723 lawhawk
PC Load Letter?! I'll give you a PC Load Letter! /Michael Bolton
Michael Bolton? I just love his songs.
| 748 |
doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:58:21pm |
re: #698 SanFranciscoZionist
There seems to be no real evidence that the parents are a danger to the kid, although I feel the child's word should be taken. If she feels unsafe...but does she really, or was she TOLD she should? Impossible to tell at this point.
I think the judge on the case ought to be able to look at the Facebook page and emails in question. If the pastor and his wife were putting ideas in her head or unduly influencing her, it will be apparent. If it all turns out to be a tempest in a teapot, I do hope the family gets some counseling (from a neutral, secular party) to help them all cope with their daughter's decision.
| 749 |
Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:58:41pm |
re: #705 subsailor68
Hi Shadow! If Carter was on board Seawolf during new construction, it's very possible he was there before the reactor was even fueled. I went through new construction at Mare Island in the early 70's - sorry I can't remember precisely when we fueled, but it was certainly late in the process.
Amen! Fellow MINSY Guy! Hey Bro! hope today finds you well
| 750 |
lawhawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:58:45pm |
re: #740 SanFranciscoZionist
The scene where they kill the fax machine is at once one of the funniest and most disturbing things I've ever seen in a movie.
Well, it was a prelude for cash for clunkers. /
| 752 |
~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:59:28pm |
re: #687 cliffster
Among the pompous intellectual liberals, no. Among another of the liberal demographics - say, "Underprivileged" and "Undercultured", it would be a very common thing. You can't possibly believe that conservatives have a monopoly on reverse snootiness.
Are there also "pompous intellectual conservatives"?
One thing that's always bothered me about American culture is that there is a long tradition of anti-intellectualism that's part of our self-view. I respect educated people who can make a good argument, even if I disagree with the argument, I'm likely to walk away having learned something that I didn't know before. I'd rather have 20 "pompous intellectuals" in a room discussing than a 20 uninformed fools shouting.
| 753 |
MrSilverDragon Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:59:41pm |
I'm amazed at the amount of "crash and burn" going on here today. Is there a full moon?
/apologies to the therianthropes here.
| 754 |
itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:59:41pm |
re: #715 Ojoe
I hope Palin reads this thread and trim her sails accordingly. I still think she has a lot to offer the country, what with kicking the corrupt GOP old boys out of Alaska politics and all.
I wonder. Do you think she does log on and browse or blog her own self?
| 755 |
Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:59:44pm |
re: #740 SanFranciscoZionist
The scene where they kill the fax machine is at once one of the funniest and most disturbing things I've ever seen in a movie.
I like when they had to go back and pull Mike off the machine.
"We understand you've been missing a lot of work lately?"
"I wouldn't say I've been missing it Bob."
| 756 |
Dr. Shalit Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:00:16pm |
| 757 |
cronus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:00:27pm |
re: #751 Sharmuta
Samir: No, not again. I... why does it say paper jam when there is no paper jam? I swear to God, one of these days, I just kick this piece of s*%t out the window.
Michael Bolton: You and me both, man. That thing is lucky I'm not armed.
| 758 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:00:39pm |
re: #742 wee fury
Living at LGF may not be a good idea. I don't believe Charles serves food, provides toilet facilities, nor serves beer.
But some trolls think this is a toilet.
And then Stinky has to clean up after trolls leave their load.
| 759 |
Aye Pod Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:00:41pm |
One word : 'Wingularity'.
I think we are fast approaching it.
| 760 |
Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:00:46pm |
re: #744 Ojoe
The radar has been jammed ...
raspberry ...
Only one man would dare to give me the raspberry...Lonestar!
| 761 |
subsailor68 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:00:54pm |
re: #749 HoosierHoops
Amen! Fellow MINSY Guy! Hey Bro! hope today finds you well
Hey Hoops!! Great to see you my friend. My day's going well, and I hope your day is too!
| 763 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:01:09pm |
| 764 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:01:17pm |
re: #740 SanFranciscoZionist
The scene where they kill the fax machine is at once one of the funniest and most disturbing things I've ever seen in a movie.
I have a couple of office machines I'd love to have so I might recreate that scene.
| 765 |
Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:01:24pm |
| 767 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:01:40pm |
re: #752 ~Fianna
Are there also "pompous intellectual conservatives"?
My hand is up, if you're counting!
| 768 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:01:45pm |
re: #636 marjoriemoon
People are always attacking him for being well-educated. A number of posters (most of whom are gone now) were fond of telling me way back when that a Harvard education didn't mean squat which as Ludwig says is more of a reflection of their own ignorance than those who went to Harvard.
Meanwhile they supported the Greatest Orator of Our Time, George W. Bush! Bush didn't need a teleprompter! No way! He just made words up!
Again, its my opinion that the attacks occur not because he is educated,
but because he seems to know so little in spite of it.
Anyone who thinks attendance at Harvard automatically equals "brilliance" is just wrong. Ditto attendance at Yale, which is where Bush went, correct?
This by Buzzsawmonkey explains it better than I can:
re: #532 buzzsawmonkey
Maybe I've been too much out of the loop, but I seem to have missed where Obama has been "attacked because he is well educated."
I have seen Obama attacked time and again for being ignorant despite having attended several expensive educational institutions, and rightly mocked for being tongue-tied whenever he is caught in an unscripted or uncontrolled situation, but that is not the same thing as attacking him for being well educated.
Rather, it is pointing out that despite his having several flossy educational credentials, he seems to manifestly lack the substance those credentials are alleged to certify.
| 769 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:01:51pm |
OK, this calls for a poll again:
In a theoretical matchup of 2012 races of Obama against various potential Republican opponents, how would you vote in the following races, if in fact each of the following Republicans got the nomination:
Q: If faced with each of the following choices on the 2012 ticket, how would you vote?
1. Obama vs Romney
2. Obama vs. Giuliani
3. Obama vs. Palin
4. Obama vs. Jindal
This is NOT a question about how likely each Republican is to get the nomination. This is a theoretical question about who you would vote in each putative scenario, granting that the Republican candidate in question indeed already got the nomination in 2012.
In each case, you can also answer "I'd refuse to vote" or "I'd vote for a third-party candidate."
That polling stations are now open! Time to vote!
| 770 |
Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:02:04pm |
| 771 |
Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:02:42pm |
| 773 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:02:55pm |
| 774 |
doubter4444 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:03:05pm |
re: #432 LudwigVanQuixote
OK seriously...
Smarter and better educated:
Palin or Obama? Answer truthfully.
What about Creationist Huckabee or Obama: Answer truthfully.
Ron Paul or Obama? Answer truthfully.Go down the list of who the GOP is putting up...
I am not saying that because Obama is smarter and better educated that he is always right. Far from it. I really despise many of his policies.
However. Trying to pick on Obama because he actually is smart and educated is the kind of ignorant crap that the GOP excels at.
That's the point, but it'll be ignored to harp on easier argument.
| 775 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:03:07pm |
re: #738 sattv4u2
Ummm,,, no it does NOT. Not every "officer on a nuclear sub" A) does watches with the reactor and B) makes them a nuclear engineer
It is possible that the regulations changed in between the time I was working with the nuclear Navy and when Carter was there. But these days, if you are an officer assigned to a sub, you went to nuke school.
| 776 |
kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:03:11pm |
re: #769 zombie
OK, this calls for a poll again:
In a theoretical matchup of 2012 races of Obama against various potential Republican opponents, how would you vote in the following races, if in fact each of the following Republicans got the nomination:
Q: If faced with each of the following choices on the 2012 ticket, how would you vote?
1. Obama vs Romney
2. Obama vs. Giuliani
3. Obama vs. Palin
4. Obama vs. Jindal
This is NOT a question about how likely each Republican is to get the nomination. This is a theoretical question about who you would vote in each putative scenario, granting that the Republican candidate in question indeed already got the nomination in 2012.
In each case, you can also answer "I'd refuse to vote" or "I'd vote for a third-party candidate."
That polling stations are now open! Time to vote!
Romney
| 777 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:03:23pm |
I once told one of my bosses I was ready to go "Office Space" on one of our machines. He didn't know what I meant, so I emailed him the clip. He came back to me later and agreed- this machine was that bad.
| 779 |
itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:03:30pm |
re: #769 zombie
1. Romney
2. Giuliani
3. Fail
4. Fail
Of course, let's see how Obama does, maybe by 2012 I'll be in his fan club.
/chortle
| 781 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:03:47pm |
re: #769 zombie
1. Romney
2. Guiliani
3. Palin
4. Jindal
It's not who the Republican is. It's who the Democrat is.
| 783 |
gregb Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:03:54pm |
re: #719 SanFranciscoZionist
Does Turlock, California, count?
/
Turlock, Tracy, Yuba, Merced, whatever.
Yeah well what are you, a f___g world traveler? --Lisa
| 784 |
victor_yugo Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:03:55pm |
re: #746 kansas
Michael Bolton? I just love his songs.
"Why should I change my name? He's the one that sucks!"
| 785 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:04:02pm |
re: #386 turn
That was wierd, maybe KFC just came out with a new commercial today. Most all of the top ten have to do with chappaquiddick
KFC is test marketing a new chicken 'sandwich' in Nebraska and New Jersey(?)... It's really two breaded chicken breasts with two slices of cheese and a couple of slices of bacon between them. No bread or bun, contained in a paper wrapper.
That may be what the KFC search is about.
| 786 |
~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:04:05pm |
re: #704 Kosh's Shadow
And expecting Microsoft to support it would be like expecting GM to update your 1955 Bel Aire to be a hybrid. It is two versions out of date, and Microsoft will give away their latest version free. (So will Apple and Mozilla)
MS is still supporting it out of customer service reasons - because it's so broken, there are a lot of applications and sites that have been designed around supporting it, so they can't just pull the plug. At a company I worked for, we had to let our customers know not to take the IE7 auto-update until the web folks reworked the IE stylesheets because upgrading would break the app. That's how non-standard 6 is.
It's amazing how little people update their systems. IE6 won't completely go away until every machine that came with it bundled has been retired.
| 788 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:04:23pm |
re: #748 doppelganglander
I think the judge on the case ought to be able to look at the Facebook page and emails in question. If the pastor and his wife were putting ideas in her head or unduly influencing her, it will be apparent. If it all turns out to be a tempest in a teapot, I do hope the family gets some counseling (from a neutral, secular party) to help them all cope with their daughter's decision.
God. The Internet and teens. I had a student a couple of years ago who announced to his family that he was gay in the early days of his sophomore year of HS. Much drama. At one point, while I was running interference between him and the family, I learned that he had gone onto the Internet, and was hanging around in chat rooms. Just popping up, "Hi, I'm sixteen, and gay, and my parents don't understand me..."
People were being really nice to him, apparently. (shudder) We had a LONG talk about online safety.
| 789 |
KingKenrod Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:04:26pm |
re: #659 BlackFedora
Sorry to go OT but this was an interesting read and really kind of makes me uncomfortable if it is accurate and not a complete and utter distortion.
Any art commissioned to promote a particular agenda should come from the White House or Congressional budget, not the NEA. This smells like Soviet-era propaganda peddling.
| 790 |
Shiplord Kirel Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:04:32pm |
re: #691 Thanos
"The Second American Revolution" is picking up a lot of steam across several of the ugly sites this past month.
What really concerns me is the increasing extent to which this term is taken literally (as in the "Above Top Secret" article) rather than metaphorically. Combined with the phenomenol hoarding of guns and ammunition since January, this kind of incendiarly rhetoric gives us a literal powder keg waiting for a match. I don't think the nutburger right will swarm into the streets and try to take over DC by force or start lynching ACLU lawyers, but there is real potential for politically motivated violence from susceptible individuals and small gangs.
| 791 |
Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:04:33pm |
| 792 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:04:42pm |
re: #776 kansas
Romney
And what about in the other three theoretical scenarios: Giuliani, Palin, and Jindal?
| 793 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:04:53pm |
re: #735 HoosierHoops
I don't think my friend lied during the clearance process (and he ended up with a clearance that wasn't as high, but still good enough for a great IT job in the private sector after he left the Navy.)
I think he hit a parked car and drove away without leaving a note when he was a minor. He was arrested for it, as a juvenile, but it still came up during his clearance process and he couldn't get the clearance. I thought everything before 18 was sealed.
I went through a TS/SCI clearence screening (including polygraph - not fun!) when I tried to get a job with NSA. So I know what the process is like.
| 794 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:05:04pm |
re: #769 zombie
Guiliani or Romney probably yes. The others and I would vote for Obama even today.
| 795 |
Ojoe Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:05:18pm |
re: #754 itellu3times
Maybe? She'd profit from it. & I'd like to see her take on Victor Hanson as a mentor.
| 796 |
KingKenrod Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:05:31pm |
re: #769 zombie
OK, this calls for a poll again:
In a theoretical matchup of 2012 races of Obama against various potential Republican opponents, how would you vote in the following races, if in fact each of the following Republicans got the nomination:
Q: If faced with each of the following choices on the 2012 ticket, how would you vote?
1. Obama vs Romney
2. Obama vs. Giuliani
3. Obama vs. Palin
4. Obama vs. Jindal
This is NOT a question about how likely each Republican is to get the nomination. This is a theoretical question about who you would vote in each putative scenario, granting that the Republican candidate in question indeed already got the nomination in 2012.
In each case, you can also answer "I'd refuse to vote" or "I'd vote for a third-party candidate."
That polling stations are now open! Time to vote!
GOP on all four.
| 797 |
lawhawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:05:42pm |
re: #769 zombie
OK, this calls for a poll again:
Q: If faced with each of the following choices on the 2012 ticket, how would you vote?1. Obama vs Romney
2. Obama vs. Giuliani
3. Obama vs. Palin (Neither - would vote 3d party, and if all else fails, Palin - which in NJ is the equivalent of throwing a vote away).
4. Obama vs. Jindal (and just barely, let's see how he does with the LA rebuilding efforts, his public policy positions on education are crunchy to say the least)
| 798 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:05:42pm |
re: #779 itellu3times
1. Romney
2. Giuliani
3. Fail
4. FailOf course, let's see how Obama does, maybe by 2012 I'll be in his fan club.
/chortle
So in options 3 and 4, you would refuse to vote?
| 799 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:05:43pm |
| 802 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:05:51pm |
re: #769 zombie
1. Obama vs Romney
2. Obama vs. Giuliani
3. Obama vs. Palin
4. Obama vs. Jindal
5. Obama vs. Crash Test Dummy
6. Obama vs. Ron Paul
( I may be ideological, but I ain't crazy!)
| 804 |
victor_yugo Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:05:58pm |
re: #781 EmmmieG
1. Romney
2. Guiliani
3. Palin
4. JindalIt's not who the Republican is. It's who the Democrat is.
What she said.
And I'm already so sick of that voice, I'm considering registering just to vote against him.
| 807 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:06:29pm |
re: #781 EmmmieG
1. Romney
2. Guiliani
3. Palin
4. JindalIt's not who the Republican is. It's who the Democrat is.
Well put!
| 808 |
Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:06:29pm |
re: #769 zombie
OK, this calls for a poll again:
In a theoretical matchup of 2012 races of Obama against various potential Republican opponents, how would you vote in the following races, if in fact each of the following Republicans got the nomination:
Q: If faced with each of the following choices on the 2012 ticket, how would you vote?
1. Obama vs Romney
2. Obama vs. Giuliani
3. Obama vs. Palin
4. Obama vs. Jindal
This is NOT a question about how likely each Republican is to get the nomination. This is a theoretical question about who you would vote in each putative scenario, granting that the Republican candidate in question indeed already got the nomination in 2012.
In each case, you can also answer "I'd refuse to vote" or "I'd vote for a third-party candidate."
That polling stations are now open! Time to vote!
Romney.
Giuliani a close second.
No on Jindal and a definite no on Palin.
| 809 |
MrSilverDragon Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:06:34pm |
re: #769 zombie
I think I would probably vote for Romney given those choices. Close followup would be Giuliani. Given the current state of Palin & Jindal, I don't think I could vote for either, and would have to consider 3rd party or "present".
| 810 |
The Shadow Do Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:06:37pm |
re: #746 kansas
Michael Bolton? I just love his songs.
He is a whiney, whiney bastard. "How am I supposed to live without you". My wife sleeps with the TV on (Lifetime?). Every morning 3AM - "How am I...
Shut up!!
If he ain't neutered yet, I'll do it!
| 811 |
Mad Al-Jaffee Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:06:40pm |
Nice to see all of the Office Space quotes. One of my favorite movies. I still have it on vhs. Too many great quotes to post any.
| 812 |
Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:06:45pm |
re: #784 victor_yugo
"Why should I change my name? He's the one that sucks!"
"I'll tell you what I'd do, man: two chicks at the same time, man."
| 813 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:06:47pm |
re: #792 zombie
And what about in the other three theoretical scenarios: Giuliani, Palin, and Jindal?
And I should add that if Palin wins I will try to move to New Zealand.
| 814 |
Athos Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:06:55pm |
re: #769 zombie
Given your conditions...
1. Romney
2. Guiliani
3. Undecided beween Palin and Not Vote
4. Not vote
| 815 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:07:04pm |
re: #715 Ojoe
I hope Palin reads this thread and trim her sails accordingly. I still think she has a lot to offer the country, what with kicking the corrupt GOP old boys out of Alaska politics and all.
And just think of the entertainment we'll get from Cato.
| 816 |
doubter4444 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:07:05pm |
re: #444 unrealizedviewpoint
Sorry. Those are positive spin articles on Van Jones. Not a word with regard to what Beck is exposing. Do you really think the MFMSM is going to run a piece critical of Van Jones?
Oh NO! It's the media again! Those bastards, they won't print the bad stuff, it's all a conspiracy.
Christ, I'm over blaming the media for everything.
| 817 |
Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:07:18pm |
re: #761 subsailor68
Hey Hoops!! Great to see you my friend. My day's going well, and I hope your day is too!
In exactly 24 hours Jordan Will be home from the Marines for good... You would not believe how many cases of beer are here...
Let's turn this thread into a Nuclear Submarine review...hehehe
What drydock did you work out of? How many trial runs did you go on? The worst feeling in the world..Diving the first time after a build or refit..When they closed the hatch in the sail you knew some shit may go down...Hours with a flashlight looking around in inner hull of the fan room for a leak could bring the fear of God into any man.. Hated trial runs
| 818 |
theheat Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:07:28pm |
re: #769 zombie
Romney. And even that makes me hold my nose.
Any of the rest, and I may throw my brain out the window and leave the country with a very bloated and domestically abusive Alec Baldwin ;-)
Yeah, that's how unpalatable the other choices are.
| 819 |
subsailor68 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:07:37pm |
re: #775 LudwigVanQuixote
It is possible that the regulations changed in between the time I was working with the nuclear Navy and when Carter was there. But these days, if you are an officer assigned to a sub, you went to nuke school.
Hmmm...IIRC back when I served, our supply officer was not a nuke...his training had come via the supply corps (the old "pork chop" thingee). Do the supply officers today have to go through nuke school?
| 820 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:07:47pm |
| 821 |
horse Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:07:48pm |
| 822 |
SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:07:49pm |
re: #769 zombie
OK, this calls for a poll again:
In a theoretical matchup of 2012 races of Obama against various potential Republican opponents, how would you vote in the following races, if in fact each of the following Republicans got the nomination:
Q: If faced with each of the following choices on the 2012 ticket, how would you vote?
1. Obama vs Romney
2. Obama vs. Giuliani
3. Obama vs. Palin
4. Obama vs. Jindal
This is NOT a question about how likely each Republican is to get the nomination. This is a theoretical question about who you would vote in each putative scenario, granting that the Republican candidate in question indeed already got the nomination in 2012.
In each case, you can also answer "I'd refuse to vote" or "I'd vote for a third-party candidate."
That polling stations are now open! Time to vote!
I vote Obama in all cases except, possibly, the Giuliani match-up.
But I'm a fourth-generation Democrat. We would have voted Democrat before that, too, except that it made the Red Army crabby.
| 823 |
Randall Gross Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:07:53pm |
2010's still more important, and it's too early for hypothetical electoral handicapping of 2012.
| 824 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:07:54pm |
re: #774 doubter4444
That's the point, but it'll be ignored to harp on easier argument.
Several here have responded, not by "ingnoring to harp on easier argument", but making a different point, which you seem to be ignoring, so here they are for you:
re: #532 buzzsawmonkey
Maybe I've been too much out of the loop, but I seem to have missed where Obama has been "attacked because he is well educated."
I have seen Obama attacked time and again for being ignorant despite having attended several expensive educational institutions, and rightly mocked for being tongue-tied whenever he is caught in an unscripted or uncontrolled situation, but that is not the same thing as attacking him for being well educated.
Rather, it is pointing out that despite his having several flossy educational credentials, he seems to manifestly lack the substance those credentials are alleged to certify.
re: #471 Walter L. Newton
Yes, Obama is so well educated that he cannot form a simple paragraph off the cuff without stuttering, stammering and misspeaking.
Most of the commenters here on LGF can form post after post of coherent dialog all day long, post after post, and never falter.
Yet Obama is so ignorant of the topics he is expected to address on a daily, weekly and monthly basis, that he is forced to deliver most of his thoughts from a pre-packed, canned teleprompter feed.
Well educated does not mean well informed or smart. Professorial intelligence is far removed from real-world intelligence.
| 825 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:08:09pm |
re: #791 Cato the Elder
Will I be shot now?
No -- but you and the other 50 million Obama voters will be forced into re-education camps under the Newer World Order.
/
| 826 |
itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:08:14pm |
re: #798 zombie
So in options 3 and 4, you would refuse to vote?
Would depend on how things go, but quite possibly, quite probably. I haven't voted for half the offices on my ballot for years, where the only serious candidate, or the only candidate listed, is a democrat, whether I know anything about them or not. Just a matter of time until this goes right to the top of the ballot.
| 827 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:08:15pm |
re: #710 jackfetch
I would rather look for a concrete solution, than make mockery of those with poor ones, and I just don't see that happening here any more.
Where were you when we had a thread devoted to constructive questions on the health care legislation? I don't recall you submitting a question.
The link to that document is right at the top of the page. Guess you missed it?
| 828 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:08:23pm |
I do think I would vote Lieberman over Jindal. Of course, that's not a realistic option, I'm just stating principles.
| 829 |
gregb Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:08:32pm |
re: #802 sattv4u2
( I may be ideological, but I ain't crazy!)
1. B-2 Bob Dornan.
Oh, wait...is he still alive?
[Link: tinyurl.com...]
| 830 |
kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:08:45pm |
re: #792 zombie
And what about in the other three theoretical scenarios: Giuliani, Palin, and Jindal?
Unless Obama takes a crash course in being President of the United States instead of Community Agitator, I would never ever vote for him. Palin and Jindal, I could not do, so would go 3rd party or stay home.
| 831 |
~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:09:09pm |
re: #709 itellu3times
Seems right to me. No doubt the problem is convincing non-IT execs who have no knowledge or direct connection to the getting it done. I'm mostly a back-end guy (ok, simmer down over there) these days, outside of mild net-surfing don't much do browser-based anything, so I guess I just fell way behind the curve on this.
It's always a tough decision whether or not you want to design function in a way that's convenient to users and broadly supported or if there's a good enough reason to ask your users to do something to make life easier for IT.
On the app of doom that I'm currently working on, I made the call that our FF users needed to move up to 3.5 because 3.5 handles dynamic tables and text-wrapping in a MUCH better way than >3.5 did. It's VERY rare for me to say this, but dynamic tabled data display is something that IE has handled well since IIRC 3.x and FF was way behind.
If they really don't want to upgrade, the display still works, but FF doesn't wrap text nicely so they'll be scrolling right in >3.5 if the displayed string is longer than their monitor with.
| 832 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:09:17pm |
re: #819 subsailor68
Hmmm...IIRC back when I served, our supply officer was not a nuke...his training had come via the supply corps (the old "pork chop" thingee). Do the supply officers today have to go through nuke school?
You know better than me. Did your supply officer ever serve watches?
| 834 |
Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:10:08pm |
| 835 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:10:34pm |
Ah ha! I think I know what's causing that hangup when posting or showing new comments.
Bad code in the returned JSON string. Will fix.
| 836 |
medaura18586 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:11:01pm |
'bout Sarah Palin...
I told you so!
I told you so!
I told you so!
/Sorry, nothing more constructive comes to mind.
| 837 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:11:16pm |
re: #834 Gus 802
Try using the thread spy- then you're not loading the entire thread.
| 838 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:11:20pm |
re: #833 midwestgak
Having to refresh again.
Me too. Seems to be some kind of wonkiness on this thread -- not sure why.
| 839 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:11:22pm |
re: #819 subsailor68
Hmmm...IIRC back when I served, our supply officer was not a nuke...his training had come via the supply corps (the old "pork chop" thingee). Do the supply officers today have to go through nuke school?
Also, I worked with and not for the Navy. If you are telling me that the officers of the watch did not go through nuke school then I am wrong. But I was under the very distinct impression that they all did.
| 841 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:11:38pm |
re: #813 LudwigVanQuixote
And I should add that if Palin wins I will try to move to New Zealand.
That's the most shallow, oft-repeated, and never-fulfilled promise made these days.
Way more popular even than "I'll call you in the morning."
| 842 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:11:38pm |
re: #835 Charles
Ah ha! I think I know what's causing that hangup when posting or showing new comments.
Bad code in the returned JSON string. Will fix.
Excellent! Such service!
| 843 |
~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:11:52pm |
| 844 |
kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:11:52pm |
re: #810 The Shadow Do
He is a whiney, whiney bastard. "How am I supposed to live without you". My wife sleeps with the TV on (Lifetime?). Every morning 3AM - "How am I...
Shut up!!
If he ain't neutered yet, I'll do it!
That's funny.
Must be a different Michael Bolton. : )
| 845 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:12:08pm |
re: #710 jackfetch
I would rather look for a concrete solution, than make mockery of those with poor ones, and I just don't see that happening here any more.
Where were you when we had a thread devoted to constructive questions on the health care legislation? I don't recall you submitting a question.
The link to that document is right at the top of the page. Guess you missed it?
| 847 |
itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:12:24pm |
re: #831 ~Fianna
It's always a tough decision whether or not you want to design function in a way that's convenient to users and broadly supported or if there's a good enough reason to ask your users to do something to make life easier for IT.
On the app of doom that I'm currently working on, I made the call that our FF users needed to move up to 3.5 because 3.5 handles dynamic tables and text-wrapping in a MUCH better way than >3.5 did. It's VERY rare for me to say this, but dynamic tabled data display is something that IE has handled well since IIRC 3.x and FF was way behind.
If they really don't want to upgrade, the display still works, but FF doesn't wrap text nicely so they'll be scrolling right in >3.5 if the displayed string is longer than their monitor with.
You have any position on or experience with Silverlight?
Or how about just going smart apps web services SOA and all that?
| 848 |
subsailor68 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:12:42pm |
re: #817 HoosierHoops
In exactly 24 hours Jordan Will be home from the Marines for good... You would not believe how many cases of beer are here... Let's turn this thread into a Nuclear Submarine review...hehehe What drydock did you work out of? How many trial runs did you go on? The worst feeling in the world..Diving the first time after a build or refit..When they closed the hatch in the sail you knew some shit may go down...Hours with a flashlight looking around in inner hull of the fan room for a leak could bring the fear of God into any man.. Hated trial runs
What terrific news about Jordan!! I'll pop a cold one here too!! LOL!! Four little words: coffee cup in sail. Heh, heh. (If it takes me a long time to respond, it's because my system's acting up - spinning wheel of death stuff.)
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:12:43pm |
re: #833 midwestgak
Having to refresh again.
I've been fresh since I was a kid (thats why I got whacked by the nins so often!)
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kansas Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:12:51pm |
re: #835 Charles
Ah ha! I think I know what's causing that hangup when posting or showing new comments.
Bad code in the returned JSON string. Will fix.
Sure is great to be able to use something that I have no clue about. How do you do this?
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Spenser (with an S) Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:12:54pm |
re: #721 Sharmuta
Frankly- if Charles didn't point out the problems with these people, no one else would.
Not on the Beck bandwagon, but is this true? What about Stewart, Ohlberman, the boycott group that got 36 sponsors to leave. It seems he's pretty well pushed way to the outside of society and I don't think Charles would claim that was LGF alone.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:13:04pm |
re: #835 Charles
Ah ha! I think I know what's causing that hangup when posting or showing new comments.
Bad code in the returned JSON string. Will fix.
Yeah, that's just what I was saying. Most be bad code in the thingy..whatsis...
Sigh. Let a girl make one trip to Radio Shack, and she thinks she knows something. Thanks for fixing it, Charles.
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Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:13:15pm |
re: #837 Sharmuta
Try using the thread spy- then you're not loading the entire thread.
Thanks. Used that before and it is better. Speaking of which I know I mentioned having problems the other morning and switch over to Firefox which smoothed things out a little more. Safari is still kind of screwy. Hopefully this code change will fix everything since Safari was the smoothest for LGF.
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zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:13:16pm |
re: #835 Charles
Ah ha! I think I know what's causing that hangup when posting or showing new comments.
Bad code in the returned JSON string. Will fix.
I remain astounded at how rapidly Charles can diagnose and fix these things. If my blog's comments went wonky, it'd take me weeks of begging other people to fix it before i had the slightest clue as to what was causing the problem.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:13:16pm |
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Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:13:29pm |
re: #813 LudwigVanQuixote
And I should add that if Palin wins I will try to move to New Zealand.
Promise?
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:13:53pm |
em>re: #769 zombie
OK, this calls for a poll again:
In a theoretical matchup of 2012 races of Obama against various potential Republican opponents, how would you vote in the following races, if in fact each of the following Republicans got the nomination:
Q: If faced with each of the following choices on the 2012 ticket, how would you vote?
1. Obama vs Romney
2. Obama vs. Giuliani
3. Obama vs. Palin
4. Obama vs. Jindal
This is NOT a question about how likely each Republican is to get the nomination. This is a theoretical question about who you would vote in each putative scenario, granting that the Republican candidate in question indeed already got the nomination in 2012.
In each case, you can also answer "I'd refuse to vote" or "I'd vote for a third-party candidate."
That polling stations are now open! Time to vote!
I vote Obama in all cases except, possibly, the Giuliani match-up.
But I'm a fourth-generation Democrat. We would have voted Democrat before that, too, except that it made the Red Army crabby.
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reine.de.tout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:14:29pm |
re: #836 medaura18586
'bout Sarah Palin...
I told you so!
I told you so!
I told you so!
/Sorry, nothing more constructive comes to mind.
Yes you did!
/curses
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karmic_inquisitor Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:15:15pm |
re: #831 ~Fianna
Quoting a CIO I know from an evil health insurance company -
"An idiot proof application will only be used by idiots."
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itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:15:34pm |
re: #857 SanFranciscoZionist
Do the term "red diaper" strike a familiar note?
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debutaunt Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:15:34pm |
re: #415 Desert Dog
Don't worry about it, Racer. We'll be long gone once we have to pay it all back...On the other hand, our children and their children and their children...they are screwed.
The statue of eternal debt will represent the USA.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:15:37pm |
re: #853 Gus 802
Thanks. Used that before and it is better. Speaking of which I know I mentioned having problems the other morning and switch over to Firefox which smoothed things out a little more. Safari is still kind of screwy. Hopefully this code change will fix everything since Safari was the smoothest for LGF.
What about the possible modem issue?
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Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:15:38pm |
re: #793 Mad Al-Jaffee
I don't think my friend lied during the clearance process (and he ended up with a clearance that wasn't as high, but still good enough for a great IT job in the private sector after he left the Navy.)
I think he hit a parked car and drove away without leaving a note when he was a minor. He was arrested for it, as a juvenile, but it still came up during his clearance process and he couldn't get the clearance. I thought everything before 18 was sealed.
I went through a TS/SCI clearence screening (including polygraph - not fun!) when I tried to get a job with NSA. So I know what the process is like.
sucks doesn't it? Hope you are well...I pissed off the agents after my TS interview..After administering the oath and the paperwork was signed off..
As a cocky 23 year old I stood up and said something like this...
You guys asked me about my whole life...Even if I had ever had sex with an animal...
Yes..That's right..
Well you forgot to ever ask me if I'd sell out my Country for a million bucks...What do you think off that? The beginning of a long career with the Gov't..
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subsailor68 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:15:59pm |
re: #839 LudwigVanQuixote
Also, I worked with and not for the Navy. If you are telling me that the officers of the watch did not go through nuke school then I am wrong. But I was under the very distinct impression that they all did.
Hi Ludwig!! My question was really due to my advanced age...couldn't remember for sure. Thinking on it, I remember our supply officer standing diving officer watches, but don't think he was an Officer of the Deck, nor did he ever stand any watches back aft. But, hey, I'm old! :-)
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DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:16:16pm |
re: #769 zombie
OK, this calls for a poll again:
In a theoretical matchup of 2012 races of Obama against various potential Republican opponents, how would you vote in the following races, if in fact each of the following Republicans got the nomination:
Q: If faced with each of the following choices on the 2012 ticket, how would you vote?
1. Obama vs Romney
2. Obama vs. Giuliani
3. Obama vs. Palin
4. Obama vs. Jindal
This is NOT a question about how likely each Republican is to get the nomination. This is a theoretical question about who you would vote in each putative scenario, granting that the Republican candidate in question indeed already got the nomination in 2012.
In each case, you can also answer "I'd refuse to vote" or "I'd vote for a third-party candidate."
That polling stations are now open! Time to vote!
Any or all of the above, depending if the Black Panthers will let me into the voting booth
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HippieforLife Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:16:35pm |
I believe that Glenn Beck is bringing up some things that may be important.
The idea of "czars" who are not confirmed and answer only to the President needs to be examined.
At least Mr. Beck has the ability to laugh at himself unlike Chris Matthews or Keith Olbermann. By the way, Keith O called FOX news viewers "racist" last night. Do you think that color of change will now boycott him?
I'm pretty sure that people of all walks of life watch FOX News so he has just smeared quite a few people. I never knew that I was racist, stupid, or worse because I choose to watch that cable channel.
Just because people like Sarah Palin or Glenn Beck it is hard to make value judgements about those people. We shouldn't fall into that trap.
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Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:16:50pm |
re: #862 Sharmuta
What about the possible modem issue?
Everything else is fine. Hulu was working good on two documentaries I watched. Not sure about my ISP though. I might be switching over to another ISP and maybe cable as opposed to DSL.
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SanFranciscoZionist Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:16:59pm |
re: #822 SanFranciscoZionist
I vote Obama in all cases except, possibly, the Giuliani match-up.
But I'm a fourth-generation Democrat. We would have voted Democrat before that, too, except that it made the Red Army crabby.
I would also add that if Romney won, I would not lose any sleep, and would happily watch the inauguration.
Romney might also get a vote if Obama's learning curve is not sufficiently steep.
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:17:11pm |
re: #851 Spenser (with an S)
I mean on the right. Sorry, but I have no problem with self-reflection and constructive criticisms. This isn't what the left is doing for the right, but it is what I see going on here.
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zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:17:34pm |
re: #796 KingKenrod
GOP on all four.
re: #797 lawhawk
re: #800 karmic_inquisitor
Romney
Giuliani
Obama
Obama
re: #802 sattv4u2
1. Obama vs Romney
2. Obama vs. Giuliani3. Obama vs. Palin
4. Obama vs. Jindal
5. Obama vs. Crash Test Dummy
6. Obama vs. Ron Paul
( I may be ideological, but I ain't crazy!)
So far, it seems that Obama still is not faring well in the LGF voter block, percentage-wise!
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lawhawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:17:45pm |
re: #797 lawhawk
My votes on 3, 4 (Palin and Jindal) constitute a vote against Obama, not for Palin or Jindal. Obama is showing himself to be out of his league on matters of state, and his foreign policy positions are dangerous in the long term. Things could change - starting with the 2010 election and if the GOP can recapture the House, sanity could reemerge in DC for a brief instant - including more rational budgets. (Okay, that's a long shot hope, but what else do we have?)
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:18:16pm |
re: #820 OldLineTexan
I believe that's what you think.
If you ever want to know what I think, just ask!
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:18:20pm |
re: #813 LudwigVanQuixote
And I should add that if Palin wins I will try to move to New Zealand.
Need a ride to the airport!?!?!
//
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zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:18:34pm |
Hmmm, my comments are doubling up on each other in the comment box. Apologies if anything I've posted is messed up or a double-comment.
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OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:18:54pm |
re: #872 Cato the Elder
If you ever want to know what I think, just ask!
No, thanks.
I see you don't recognize your own words.
I'm not surprised.
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jorline Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:19:12pm |
Finally...something the UN knows something about...plenty of circle-jerks.
U.N. Report Advocates Teaching Masturbation to 5-Year-Olds
Under the U.N.'s voluntary sex-ed regime, kids just 5-8 years old will be told that "touching and rubbing one's genitals is called masturbation" and that private parts "can feel pleasurable when touched by oneself."
By the time they're 9 years old, they'll learn about "positive and negative effects of 'aphrodisiacs," and wrestle with the ideas of "homophobia, transphobia and abuse of power."
Why do we send money to the UN?
Perhaps its so the children of the world will be better educated when UN troops visit their country.
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zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:19:45pm |
re: #808 Gus 802
Romney.
Giuliani a close second.
No on Jindal and a definite no on Palin.
So, does that mean you would affirmatively vote FOR Obama in Obama-Palin or Obama-Jindal matchups, or would you simply not vote?
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:20:14pm |
re: #715 Ojoe
I hope Palin reads this thread and trim her sails accordingly. I still think she has a lot to offer the country, what with kicking the corrupt GOP old boys out of Alaska politics and all.
Yeah, and then quitting so she could post on Facebook.
There's a winner.
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OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:20:35pm |
I would vote against Obama unless he ran against my dog, Butterbean, who owes me money.
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reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:20:58pm |
This will...
a. most likely...
b. very possibly...
c. maybe...
d.the eightball says...
e. without a doubt...
f. all of the above...
End badly including leave a mark!!
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:21:02pm |
re: #873 sattv4u2
Need a ride to the airport!?!?!
//
no Planes are not eco friendly... I shall go via sail boat which I am constructing at the family home. In central Pennsylvania.
:)
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gregb Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:21:11pm |
re: #857 SanFranciscoZionist
But I'm a fourth-generation Democrat. We would have voted Democrat before that, too, except that it made the Red Army crabby.
All the elected Democrats in the past generation--their father's were all Republicans.
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:21:24pm |
re: #875 OldLineTexan
No, thanks.
I see you don't recognize your own words.
I'm not surprised.
"I believe that's what he told you" was what I said. I stand by that.
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esch Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:21:26pm |
re: #769 zombie
1/2/3/4: Republican ticket in each case.
In some cases it'd be a lesser of available evils for me.
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eschew_obfuscation Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:21:47pm |
re: #775 LudwigVanQuixote
It is possible that the regulations changed in between the time I was working with the nuclear Navy and when Carter was there. But these days, if you are an officer assigned to a sub, you went to nuke school.
Carter attended about a year of nuke school and left, resigning his commission, when his father died. He never was a nuclear engineer.
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MrSilverDragon Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:21:50pm |
re: #879 OldLineTexan
I would vote against Obama unless he ran against my dog, Butterbean, who owes me money.
Future write-in!
/XD
| 888 |
marge45b Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:21:58pm |
Just sayn' LGF's Google Ads are pimping Glen Beck links right now.
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Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:22:07pm |
re: #877 zombie
So, does that mean you would affirmatively vote FOR Obama in Obama-Palin or Obama-Jindal matchups, or would you simply not vote?
I wouldn't vote for Obama. Probably not vote for the president in that case. Would have to see at the time in 2012 regarding others.
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OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:22:16pm |
re: #883 Cato the Elder
"I believe that's what he told you" was what I said. I stand by that.
You can sit on it, for all I care. If ignorance be bliss, etc.
Enjoy.
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sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:22:18pm |
re: #879 OldLineTexan
I would vote against Obama unless he ran against my dog, Butterbean, who owes me money.
Ya,,, you've been using that as an excuse for why you're not paying me the money you owe ME!
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DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:22:21pm |
re: #884 esch
1/2/3/4: Republican ticket in each case.
In some cases it'd be a lesser of available evils for me.
If I couldn't stomach Obama in 2008.. why would I possibly want to support him in 2012?
| 893 |
doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:22:29pm |
re: #769 zombie
1. Obama vs Romney
2. Obama vs. Giuliani
3. Obama vs. Palin
4. Obama vs. Jindal
I'd vote for Romney with enthusiasm and for Giuliani with a few misgivings. I've never missed a presidential election since 1980, so for numbers 3 and 4, put me down for someone else.
| 894 |
Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:23:08pm |
Speaking of the worthless UN
Iran gets nations' backing for attack ban bid
Developing nations at the U.N. nuclear watchdog are backing Iran's push to debate a ban on military attacks targeting nuclear facilities at a meeting of the IAEA's 150 member nations next month.
...
The Iranian proposal would require a simple majority for passage at the International Atomic Energy Agency's annual General Conference.Iran is a member of NAM, a bloc which emphasises Iran's right under the Non-Proliferation Treaty to develop a civilian atomic programme.
Iran says it is enriching uranium only for electricity and has refused to halt the programme or lift all restrictions on IAEA inspections despite three rounds of U.N. sanctions.
IAEA member states have passed several resolutions, the latest in 1990 and also proposed by Iran, which ban "any armed attack on and threat against (peaceful) nuclear facilities".
But Iran says a legally-binding resolution is now needed because Israel had broken such bans in the past.
| 895 |
Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:23:19pm |
Actually I can't think of a living Republican I would vote for for dog-catcher at the moment.
But I'm a registered Independent and a fanatical anti-idiotarian, not a "conservative" or a "liberal".
| 896 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:23:22pm |
re: #887 MrSilverDragon
Future write-in!
/XD
He's only two, has no formal education, and has no nirth certifikit!
Positives: He has quit pissing on the good rug.
| 897 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:23:48pm |
re: #864 subsailor68
Hi Ludwig!! My question was really due to my advanced age...couldn't remember for sure. Thinking on it, I remember our supply officer standing diving officer watches, but don't think he was an Officer of the Deck, nor did he ever stand any watches back aft. But, hey, I'm old! :-)
I was very heavily recruited to be a Nupoc. It's a long story about why I did not go in directly, but I also ended up doing some other interesting things in the community as a physicist. That said I was under the very very strong impression that these days, if you were an officer on a boat you went to nuke school.
| 898 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:23:57pm |
re: #881 LudwigVanQuixote
no Planes are not eco friendly... I shall go via sail boat which I am constructing at the family home. In central Pennsylvania.
:)
Sail boats are a danger to albatross'. It's a lot like the windmills at wind farms. Try swimming, very eco-friendly.
| 899 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:24:05pm |
re: #895 Cato the Elder
Actually I can't think of a living Republican I would vote for for dog-catcher at the moment.
But I'm a registered Independent and a fanatical anti-idiotarian, not a "conservative" or a "liberal".
awww ,, isn't that cute!!
| 901 |
jorline Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:24:23pm |
Finally...something the UN knows something about...plenty of circle-jerks.
U.N. Report Advocates Teaching Masturbation to 5-Year-Olds
Under the U.N.'s voluntary sex-ed regime, kids just 5-8 years old will be told that "touching and rubbing one's genitals is called masturbation" and that private parts "can feel pleasurable when touched by oneself."By the time they're 9 years old, they'll learn about "positive and negative effects of 'aphrodisiacs," and wrestle with the ideas of "homophobia, transphobia and abuse of power."
Why is it we send money to the UN?
Perhaps it’s so the children of the world will be better educated when UN troops visit their country.
| 902 |
itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:24:39pm |
re: #885 buzzsawmonkey
Problem with New Zealand, Ludwig, is that the people are outnumbered by the sheep. You can try all you want to educate a sheep, but it's still a sheep--not much intellectual stimulation there.
An uneducated person, even an anti-intellectual person, can change and develop more than a sheep can.
Would you rather spend an hour watching Glenn Beck or a sheep?
| 903 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:24:40pm |
re: #885 buzzsawmonkey
Problem with New Zealand, Ludwig, is that the people are outnumbered by the sheep. You can try all you want to educate a sheep, but it's still a sheep--not much intellectual stimulation there.
An uneducated person, even an anti-intellectual person, can change and develop more than a sheep can.
well, Sheep are good eating and they have women there too - like Rachel Hunter... So y'know not all bad. They also have hobbits apparently.
| 904 |
Athos Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:24:45pm |
re: #896 OldLineTexan
Positives: He has quit pissing on the good rug.
Probably means he wouldn't piss on the country while traveling overseas...definite positive.
| 905 |
unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:24:45pm |
I can only think of a handful of possible GOP contenders, or scenarios, that would cause me to consider voting for Øbama.
| 906 |
Charpete67 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:24:50pm |
I honestly can't remember why I didn't view Romney as someone I would support...but, right now, he looks like a friggin genius...
I'm still not sure on Rudy, although I find it hard to imagine that he would not have done really well vs BHO and I would imagine he would do really well in 2012.
Jindal seems too young and when I saw him interviewed...not impressive...I also wonder if the country would be willing to roll the dice on another "young guy"
I do like Palin...but, I think it's because I want her to succeed...but, she just doesn't have it.
| 907 |
Spenser (with an S) Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:25:09pm |
re: #869 Sharmuta
Sorry, but I have no problem with self-reflection and constructive criticisms.
Me neither, just didn't understand your comment. Is there someone non-kooky out there that is researching these insane czars and their connections? Obama is really surrounding himself with some nutjobs.
| 908 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:25:23pm |
re: #898 Walter L. Newton
Sail boats are a danger to albatross'. It's a lot like the windmills at wind farms. Try swimming, very eco-friendly.
teh sea kittehs gotta eet, saem as teh wurmz
| 909 |
LoquaciousLady Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:25:28pm |
re: #895 Cato the Elder
But I'm a registered Independent and a fanatical anti-idiotarian, not a "conservative" or a "liberal".
Aren't we all?
| 910 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:25:33pm |
re: #886 eschew_obfuscation
Carter attended about a year of nuke school and left, resigning his commission, when his father died. He never was a nuclear engineer.
I stand corrected then.
| 911 |
DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:25:42pm |
re: #900 buzzsawmonkey
Once his energy policy takes hold you won't be able to afford to travel anywhere, so maybe it would be an example of Stuck-home Syndrome.
Fortunatley I have a decent bicycle so I'll be able to ride on the empty streets to the voting booth to support whomever able to run against him, if we still have a multi-party system
| 912 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:25:52pm |
re: #819 subsailor68
Hmmm...IIRC back when I served, our supply officer was not a nuke...his training had come via the supply corps (the old "pork chop" thingee). Do the supply officers today have to go through nuke school?
This seems to be the problem-causing comment. Let's see if replying to it also causes the problem...
| 913 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:25:54pm |
re: #769 zombie
Given Obama's record so far, it would take Ron Paul to keep me away from voting against him. And then, I'd just have to sit out the election; I cannot get myself to vote for Obama the way he has been.
Any damage the others do can be undone so much more easily that the damage Obama is doing.
| 915 |
Dianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:26:17pm |
re: #893 doppelganglander
I'd vote for Romney with enthusiasm and for Giuliani with a few misgivings. I've never missed a presidential election since 1980, so for numbers 3 and 4, put me down for someone else.
Reverse the Romney and Giuliani, but I echo your sentiments about 3 and 4.
| 916 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:26:26pm |
re: #813 LudwigVanQuixote
And I should add that if Palin wins I will try to move to New Zealand.
Now that is an extreme solution to the dilemma!
Maybe the United States should purchase a huge tract of territory in some distant locale -- Australian Outback, or Siberian tundra, or somewhere -- and dub it "Expatriate Resort." Then, inside the walls, there are various regions for each of the reasons each type of person has moved in:
Vietnam Draft Dodger Land
The "Don't Steal My Precious Bodily Fluids" Purity Zone
I Hate Reagan Ville
Armageddon's-a-comin'!-ton
I-Promised-I'd-Leave-The Country-If-Bush-Won-in-2004 Utopia
Palin?!?!?!?! Get-Me-Out-Of-Here! Camp
| 917 |
DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:26:30pm |
re: #907 Spenser (with an S)
Me neither, just didn't understand your comment. Is there someone non-kooky out there that is researching these insane czars and their connections? Obama is really surrounding himself with some nutjobs.
Republicans have this tendency to nominate the runner-up in the next election they aren't the incumbent
| 918 |
reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:26:31pm |
By the time I was able to post I had 6 spinning wheels!
Is that a new record?
What did I win???
| 919 |
itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:26:47pm |
re: #898 Walter L. Newton
Sail boats are a danger to albatross'. It's a lot like the windmills at wind farms. Try swimming, very eco-friendly.
California waters are now full of humbolt squid, big enough to drag a man down and eat him, and known to do so.
| 920 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:26:59pm |
re: #908 OldLineTexan
teh sea kittehs gotta eet, saem as teh wurmz
You got my point. LOL. It would be a shame to lose such a great intellect to sleeping with the fishes... NOT.
| 921 |
sattv4u2 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:27:05pm |
re: #914 buzzsawmonkey
Well, for shear entertainment the sheep wins.
You're pulling the wool over our eyes!
| 922 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:27:12pm |
| 923 |
Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:27:15pm |
re: #909 LoquaciousLady
Aren't we all?
I'm pretty sure you are, but I can't speak for people who think there's anything right about Palin or Beck.
| 924 |
cliffster Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:27:18pm |
re: #769 zombie
I wouldn't vote for Obama under any circumstance. Not if you told me that my quality-of-life quotient would be raised. Not if you paid me 700,000,000,000,000. Not if you, uh, uh, well you get the point.
| 925 |
doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:27:47pm |
re: #879 OldLineTexan
I would vote against Obama unless he ran against my dog, Butterbean, who owes me money.
I would vote for Butterbean.
| 926 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:28:07pm |
re: #919 itellu3times
California waters are now full of humbolt squid, big enough to drag a man down and eat him, and known to do so.
Wouldn't want to see that happen, would we?
| 927 |
Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:28:10pm |
re: #919 itellu3times
California waters are now full of humbolt squid, big enough to drag a man down and eat him, and known to do so.
That would be a strange way to go.
| 929 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:28:14pm |
re: #814 Athos
Given your conditions...
1. Romney
2. Guiliani
3. Undecided beween Palin and Not Vote
4. Not vote
Thanks.
I think someone should summarize these answers and forward them to the Republican Central Committee! Maybe if they saw how people felt, it would have an influence.
| 930 |
Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:28:41pm |
| 931 |
Spenser (with an S) Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:28:41pm |
re: #895 Cato the Elder
Actually I can't think of a living Republican I would vote for for dog-catcher at the moment.
But I'm a registered Independent and a fanatical anti-idiotarian, not a "conservative" or a "liberal".
You are precious in your un-paralleled posting pomposity.
| 932 |
Dr. Shalit Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:28:46pm |
re: #786 ~Fianna
MS is still supporting it out of customer service reasons - because it's so broken, there are a lot of applications and sites that have been designed around supporting it, so they can't just pull the plug. At a company I worked for, we had to let our customers know not to take the IE7 auto-update until the web folks reworked the IE stylesheets because upgrading would break the app. That's how non-standard 6 is.
It's amazing how little people update their systems. IE6 won't completely go away until every machine that came with it bundled has been retired.
~Fianna -
Amazing How sometimes Old Tech can bail you out. Recently transfered "My Documents" File from a Windows 2000 Pro to a 64 bit Vista Home Premium machine with the "TORNADO" attachment. All went well with one exception, couple of files were on Desktop, NOT in Docs as we found later - after the machines were put back were they belonged. Rather than another tear down, I figured, burn to CD on old and save to new machine. Old machine didn't want to burn the CD. To make a log story a bit shorter - 3.5" floppies saved the day. Almost felt like I was back in an "8-Track" world.
-S-
| 933 |
esch Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:28:52pm |
re: #892 DrNaughty
If I couldn't stomach Obama in 2008.. why would I possibly want to support him in 2012?
?
| 934 |
DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:28:55pm |
re: #924 cliffster
I wouldn't vote for Obama under any circumstance. Not if you told me that my quality-of-life quotient would be raised. Not if you paid me 700,000,000,000,000. Not if you, uh, uh, well you get the point.
By 2012, inflation caused by Obama's printing money to cover the interest payments on the national debt will make that 700,000,000,000,000 worth about 25 cents in 2009 value..
| 935 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:28:56pm |
re: #818 theheat
Romney. And even that makes me hold my nose.
Any of the rest, and I may throw my brain out the window and leave the country with a very bloated and domestically abusive Alec Baldwin ;-)
Yeah, that's how unpalatable the other choices are.
You can join Ludwig in Expatriate Resort.
| 936 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:29:04pm |
re: #925 doppelganglander
I would vote for Butterbean.
At three committed votes, Butterbean demands an equal place on the poll to make it valid!
/
| 937 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:29:07pm |
re: #916 zombie
Now that is an extreme solution to the dilemma!
Maybe the United States should purchase a huge tract of territory in some distant locale -- Australian Outback, or Siberian tundra, or somewhere -- and dub it "Expatriate Resort." Then, inside the walls, there are various regions for each of the reasons each type of person has moved in:
Vietnam Draft Dodger Land
The "Don't Steal My Precious Bodily Fluids" Purity Zone
I Hate Reagan Ville
Armageddon's-a-comin'!-ton
I-Promised-I'd-Leave-The Country-If-Bush-Won-in-2004 Utopia
Palin?!?!?!?! Get-Me-Out-Of-Here! Camp
OR could we just send Palin to new Zealand instead and save us all a bunch of heartache?
| 938 |
unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:29:11pm |
re: #924 cliffster
I wouldn't vote for Obama under any circumstance. Not if you told me that my quality-of-life quotient would be raised. Not if you paid me 700,000,000,000,000. Not if you, uh, uh, well you get the point.
I'm pretty certain - if I was offered 700,000,000,000,000 to vote for Obama. I'd vote for Obama. No question.
| 939 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:29:24pm |
| 940 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:29:26pm |
re: #924 cliffster
I wouldn't vote for Obama under any circumstance. Not if you told me that my quality-of-life quotient would be raised. Not if you paid me 700,000,000,000,000. Not if you, uh, uh, well you get the point.
Obama will promise you free health care, and all 7 trillion, but they'll be worth seven cents in today's money.
| 941 |
Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:29:45pm |
re: #924 cliffster
I wouldn't vote for Obama under any circumstance. Not if you told me that my quality-of-life quotient would be raised. Not if you paid me 700,000,000,000,000. Not if you, uh, uh, well you get the point.
Hell.. For 700,000,000,000,000 Dollars I'd vote for Helen Thomas..Do you need my checking account number?
*wink*
| 942 |
subsailor68 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:29:50pm |
re: #912 Charles
This seems to be the problem-causing comment. Let's see if replying to it also causes the problem...
Oh no! You mean it's me causing all the problems? I do have an unresponsive script message when I hit new comments, or post. Have to refresh each time. I have plenty of security software on the system, so I hope it's not a virus. I'm sorry, Charles!
| 943 |
Walter L. Newton Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:30:01pm |
re: #937 LudwigVanQuixote
OR could we just send Palin to new Zealand instead and save us all a bunch of heartache?
No, I'm still putting my vote in to have you go there.
| 944 |
LoquaciousLady Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:30:19pm |
re: #923 Cato the Elder
I'm pretty sure you are, but I can't speak for people who think there's anything right about Palin or Beck.
I've just heard the I'm not "liberal" or "conervative" or I'm not "republican" or "democrat" however, they agree with the majority of one side's views from lots of people.
| 945 |
itellu3times Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:30:33pm |
re: #938 unrealizedviewpoint
I'm pretty certain - if I was offered 700,000,000,000,000 to vote for Obama. I'd vote for Obama. No question.
Well, you probably will be, of course after six months of hyper-inflation that's about the price of a small latte.
| 946 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:30:34pm |
re: #938 unrealizedviewpoint
I'm pretty certain - if I was offered 700,000,000,000,000 to vote for Obama. I'd vote for Obama. No question.
Here's 700,000,000,000,000 qatloos. Vote for Butterbean!
| 947 |
Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:30:39pm |
re: #924 cliffster
I wouldn't vote for Obama under any circumstance. Not if you told me that my quality-of-life quotient would be raised. Not if you paid me 700,000,000,000,000. Not if you, uh, uh, well you get the point.
Heck, I'd take the 700,000,000,000,000 and buy New Zealand.
//
| 948 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:30:41pm |
re: #830 kansas
Unless Obama takes a crash course in being President of the United States instead of Community Agitator, I would never ever vote for him. Palin and Jindal, I could not do, so would go 3rd party or stay home.
I think you'll have a lot of company at home on November 6, 2012.
| 949 |
Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:30:43pm |
re: #931 Spenser (with an S)
You are precious in your un-paralleled posting pomposity.
And all for love, and nothing for reward.
| 951 |
~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:31:19pm |
re: #932 Dr. Shalit
~Fianna -
Amazing How sometimes Old Tech can bail you out. Recently transfered "My Documents" File from a Windows 2000 Pro to a 64 bit Vista Home Premium machine with the "TORNADO" attachment. All went well with one exception, couple of files were on Desktop, NOT in Docs as we found later - after the machines were put back were they belonged. Rather than another tear down, I figured, burn to CD on old and save to new machine. Old machine didn't want to burn the CD. To make a log story a bit shorter - 3.5" floppies saved the day. Almost felt like I was back in an "8-Track" world.
-S-
I still remember when floppies were actually floppy.
We've got a few of those kicking around, still... I need to do something with them, too, since none of the current boxen even HAVE 3.5 drives.
| 952 |
LoquaciousLady Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:31:21pm |
re: #937 LudwigVanQuixote
OR could we just send Palin to new Zealand instead and save us all a bunch of heartache?
Could she take Obama with her in 2012?
| 953 |
esch Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:31:37pm |
re: #916 zombie
And don't forget:
1. Lots of available weapons.
2. REALLY tall walls so there's no escape.
3. CCTV cameras all over.
4. Pay-Per-View franchise.
/RIP, George.
| 954 |
doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:31:58pm |
re: #936 OldLineTexan
At three committed votes, Butterbean demands an equal place on the poll to make it valid!
/
My Nina joins Butterbean in demanding equal representation for Canine-Americans!
| 955 |
unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:32:06pm |
Hell, for 700,000,000,000,000 I'd move to Chicago and vote twice.
| 956 |
subsailor68 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:32:07pm |
Charles, here's the script message I'm getting: Script: [Link: ajax.googleapis.com...] Don't know if that helps?
| 957 |
reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:32:22pm |
re: #942 subsailor68
Keel hauling comes to mind!!!;-)
| 958 |
horse Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:32:42pm |
re: #895 Cato the Elder
Actually I can't think of a living Republican I would vote for for dog-catcher at the moment.
But I'm a registered Independent and a fanatical anti-idiotarian, not a "conservative" or a "liberal".
Sure you aren't exaggerating just a little? Is there a democratic or independent politician you would vote for?
| 959 |
karmic_inquisitor Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:33:01pm |
OK - I have a poll:
Have you ever been flipping channels on the TV and come across a movie/show that you own on DVD but you end up watching it on TV anyway?
| 960 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:33:02pm |
re: #952 LoquaciousLady
Could she take Obama with her in 2012?
I would be up for that.
My favorite bumper sticker of all time (updated)
CTHULU 2012! Why choose the lesser of evils?
| 961 |
doubter4444 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:33:05pm |
| 962 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:33:05pm |
re: #942 subsailor68
Oh no! You mean it's me causing all the problems? I do have an unresponsive script message when I hit new comments, or post. Have to refresh each time. I have plenty of security software on the system, so I hope it's not a virus. I'm sorry, Charles!
No, nothing you did. But the hangup was caused by your comment for some reason. What browser are you using and what OS?
| 963 |
Charpete67 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:33:13pm |
re: #938 unrealizedviewpoint
I'm pretty certain - if I was offered 700,000,000,000,000 to vote for Obama. I'd vote for Obama. No question.
...problem is...he may really offer you that...
| 964 |
Almost Killed by Space Hookers Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:33:47pm |
re: #957 reloadingisnotahobby
Keel hauling comes to mind!!!;-)
That is a real big deal on a submarine!
| 965 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:33:58pm |
re: #866 HippieforLife
I believe that Glenn Beck is bringing up some things that may be important.
The idea of "czars" who are not confirmed and answer only to the President needs to be examined.
Actually, many of the czars did have confirmation hearings. The confirmations (by the Senate) just went totally under the radar and were barely reported on.
| 966 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:34:07pm |
re: #951 ~Fianna
I still remember when floppies were actually floppy.
We've got a few of those kicking around, still... I need to do something with them, too, since none of the current boxen even HAVE 3.5 drives.
You can buy external floppy drives cheap (USB).
A while ago, I found a Zip 250 USB drive for $21 new, and since I had a lot of the cartridges that I couldn't use, I bought the drive. Now I use it as part of my paranoid backup strategy (copy work off to an external drive every few minutes).
| 967 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:34:09pm |
re: #962 Charles
No, nothing you did. But the hangup was caused by your comment for some reason. What browser are you using and what OS?
More importantly, WHY? FOR GOD'S SAKE, MAN, WHY?
/
| 969 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:34:48pm |
re: #964 LudwigVanQuixote
That is a real big deal on a submarine!
They make you chip old paint off the hull is what I heard.
/
| 970 |
cliffster Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:34:55pm |
re: #941 HoosierHoops
Hell.. For 700,000,000,000,000 Dollars I'd vote for Helen Thomas..Do you need my checking account number?
*wink*
That'd be great - go ahead and email me your checking account number. Thanks. ;)
| 971 |
Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:35:06pm |
re: #955 unrealizedviewpoint
Hell, for 700,000,000,000,000 I'd move to Chicago and vote twice.
For that much money I'd buy Napa Valley and overlook it from Sterling Winery in my Purple robe and demand servitude..
/of course I'd offer free health care
| 972 |
karmic_inquisitor Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:35:47pm |
So an errant JSON function.
Complete with hockey mask and chainsaw?
| 973 |
LGoPs Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:35:48pm |
re: #769 zombie
1. Obama vs Romney
2. Obama vs. Giuliani
3. Obama vs. PalinCato the Elder nyuk, nyuk
4. Obama vs. Jindal
5. Obama vs Donald Duck
Note: ABO (Anybody But Obama)
| 974 |
subsailor68 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:35:55pm |
re: #962 Charles I'm on an older version of Windows XP, and using the latest Firefox.
| 976 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:36:10pm |
re: #968 DrNaughty
backup to a USB flash drive..
I do, but I figured this way I'd use the over $100 I had invested in the Zip cartridges. And, more important, be able to get some stuff I had stored on them and never copied to another system.
| 977 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:36:28pm |
re: #893 doppelganglander
I'd vote for Romney with enthusiasm and for Giuliani with a few misgivings. I've never missed a presidential election since 1980, so for numbers 3 and 4, put me down for someone else.
Third party candidates take note: 2012 may be your year!
| 978 |
~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:36:41pm |
re: #966 Kosh's Shadow
You can buy external floppy drives cheap (USB).
A while ago, I found a Zip 250 USB drive for $21 new, and since I had a lot of the cartridges that I couldn't use, I bought the drive. Now I use it as part of my paranoid backup strategy (copy work off to an external drive every few minutes).
Yeah, the nice thing is that USB 3.5s are getting cheaper and cheaper. They're a good thing to have about, just in case. I use my flash drive for things now. It still blows my mind that I can carry more memory in my pocket now than my first computer even had.
I didn't even realize that my laptop doesn't have one, and when I built the servers, I didn't buy 3.5 drives for them.
| 979 |
LoquaciousLady Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:36:42pm |
re: #954 doppelganglander
My Nina joins Butterbean in demanding equal representation for Canine-Americans!
If biologists weren't victim to the same blindness that afflicts us all, they probably wouldn't hesitate to classify dogs as social parasites. This is the class of manipulative creatures exemplified by the cuckoo, which lays its eggs in the nest of some unsuspecting dupe of a bird of another species; the poor befuddled parents see this big mouth crying out for food and stuff it full of worms at the expense of their own offspring. Every time they turn their backs, the cuckoo hatchling shoves another of its foster parents' flesh and blood overboard.
Calling dogs parasites is fighting words, but what can I say? Dogs have got us exactly where they want us, and we, idiotic grins fixed to our faces, go along with it all...more
They've got us where they want us!
/the dog conspiracy awaits
| 980 |
Charpete67 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:36:44pm |
I'm always surprised when people talk about Pawlenty
| 981 |
DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:37:25pm |
re: #976 Kosh's Shadow
I do, but I figured this way I'd use the over $100 I had invested in the Zip cartridges. And, more important, be able to get some stuff I had stored on them and never copied to another system.
I have some Super Floppies (circa 2000) that I think have 250mb or so on them. Gave away the PII deskside tower back in 07..
| 983 |
LoquaciousLady Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:38:01pm |
I need to learn how to properly quote. sorry
*blush*
| 985 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:38:18pm |
re: #978 ~Fianna
Yeah, the nice thing is that USB 3.5s are getting cheaper and cheaper. They're a good thing to have about, just in case. I use my flash drive for things now. It still blows my mind that I can carry more memory in my pocket now than my first computer even had.
I didn't even realize that my laptop doesn't have one, and when I built the servers, I didn't buy 3.5 drives for them.
I wonder if I can still make a bootable floppy on Vista. Does it keep a version of DOS buried somewhere to install on the boot sectors?
| 986 |
mikalm Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:38:29pm |
When confronted with equally odious D/R alternatives, I've voted third-party in the past. Should Obama come up against Palin or the like in 2012, I'll probably click the box next to "Libertarian", even though I consider them almost as loathsome as the current big parties.
| 987 |
esch Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:39:01pm |
re: #980 Charpete67
I'm always surprised when people talk about Pawlenty
Here in MN we are blessed with the 'Horn of P(aw)lenty'
///
| 988 |
Charpete67 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:39:22pm |
re: #984 Sharmuta
What do you mean?
...as a candidate...I think it comes from the rumors that McCain was considering him for VP
| 989 |
Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:39:34pm |
re: #981 DrNaughty
I have some Super Floppies (circa 2000) that I think have 250mb or so on them. Gave away the PII deskside tower back in 07..
No self respecting Geek would ever leave the house without a 8GB thumb drive on their key chain...Just in case
| 990 |
unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:39:43pm |
re: #973 LGoPs
1. Obama vs Romney
2. Obama vs. Giuliani
3. Obama vs.PalinCato the Elder nyuk, nyuk
4. Obama vs. Jindal
5. Obama vs Donald DuckNote: ABO (Anybody But Obama)
3. Obama vs. PalinCato the Elder
Now here's another case where Øbama gets my vote.
| 991 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:40:19pm |
re: #979 LoquaciousLady
If biologists weren't victim to the same blindness that afflicts us all, they probably wouldn't hesitate to classify dogs as social parasites. This is the class of manipulative creatures exemplified by the cuckoo, which lays its eggs in the nest of some unsuspecting dupe of a bird of another species; the poor befuddled parents see this big mouth crying out for food and stuff it full of worms at the expense of their own offspring. Every time they turn their backs, the cuckoo hatchling shoves another of its foster parents' flesh and blood overboard.
Calling dogs parasites is fighting words, but what can I say? Dogs have got us exactly where they want us, and we, idiotic grins fixed to our faces, go along with it all...more
They've got us where they want us!
/the dog conspiracy awaits
That fits cats more than dogs.
Diary of Dog and Cat
| 992 |
DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:40:22pm |
re: #989 HoosierHoops
No self respecting Geek would ever leave the house without a 8GB thumb drive on their key chain...Just in case
I have a 2gb one in my laptop case somewhere that I pull out from time to time
| 993 |
unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:40:27pm |
| 994 |
cliffster Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:40:53pm |
re: #978 ~Fianna
It still blows my mind that I can carry more memory in my pocket now than my first computer even had.
You can carry more memory in your eyelash than your first computer ever had.
| 995 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:41:00pm |
re: #988 Charpete67
...as a candidate...I think it comes from the rumors that McCain was considering him for VP
I think so too. That and he can point to a record of reducing taxes in Minnesota, but that's about it. The bridge collapse will not be treated with such kid gloves as the MN press has given him. He has no chance, imo.
| 996 |
mikalm Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:41:09pm |
re: #960 LudwigVanQuixote
I would be up for that.
My favorite bumper sticker of all time (updated)
CTHULU 2012! Why choose the lesser of evils?
I have a shirt identical to the "VOTE FOR PEDRO" one worn by Napoleon Dynamite in the film, except that "PEDRO" has been replaced by "CTHULHU"!
| 998 |
unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:42:10pm |
re: #971 HoosierHoops
For that much money I'd buy Napa Valley and overlook it from Sterling Winery in my Purple robe and demand servitude..
/of course I'd offer free health care
Please kick Nancy Pelosi out, will ya?
| 999 |
Charpete67 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:42:14pm |
re: #995 Sharmuta
I think so too. That and he can point to a record of reducing taxes in Minnesota, but that's about it. The bridge collapse will not be treated with such kid gloves as the MN press has given him. He has no chance, imo.
...I like him, but he's too much of a light weight. I don't think the bridge thing could be pinned on anyone...pretty random event.
| 1000 |
LGoPs Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:42:20pm |
re: #874 zombie
Hmmm, my comments are doubling up on each other in the comment box. Apologies if anything I've posted is messed up or a double-comment.
What?
What?
| 1001 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:42:22pm |
I voted for Giant Douche, but Turd Sandwich won.
/there's always next time
| 1002 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:42:28pm |
re: #913 Kosh's Shadow
Given Obama's record so far, it would take Ron Paul to keep me away from voting against him. And then, I'd just have to sit out the election; I cannot get myself to vote for Obama the way he has been.
Any damage the others do can be undone so much more easily that the damage Obama is doing.
That's pretty much my take on things. I couldn't possibly vote for Obama. And I always vote. So if Obama runs in 2012, for me it's gonna be either a Republican or a third party candidate.
The thing that would definitively make me not vote for a Republican candidate is if that person was pushing for a theocracy. Hence, Huckabee -- never. And that birther woman discussed recently (forget her name) -- no way.
I've voted for third-party candidates plenty of times in the past (Hell, I even voted for Ralph Nader in 2000!), so I wouldn't flinch doing so again.
(Anyway, I live in California, which is going to go 60% for Obama anyway, so it's not as if my vote even mattered.)
| 1003 |
Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:42:29pm |
re: #995 Sharmuta
I think so too. That and he can point to a record of reducing taxes in Minnesota, but that's about it. The bridge collapse will not be treated with such kid gloves as the MN press has given him. He has no chance, imo.
Wasn't that bridge collapse caused by a design flaw?
| 1004 |
DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:42:32pm |
I thought I was so cool in college back in 82 when I paid $5 for a 256kb floppy...
| 1005 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:42:48pm |
re: #989 HoosierHoops
No self respecting Geek would ever leave the house without a 8GB thumb drive on their key chain...Just in case
Heh... I bought a thumb drive in June. Removed it without stopping it first. Now it's unusable. I can format it, but the system just hangs when I try to access it.
| 1006 |
subsailor68 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:42:51pm |
Well all, must go. I hope everyone has a terrific evening - and thanks, Charles, for letting me know I didn't completely blow up LGF!! :-)
| 1007 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:43:21pm |
re: #999 Charpete67
...I like him, but he's too much of a light weight. I don't think the bridge thing could be pinned on anyone...pretty random event.
Right or wrong, the bridge will be pinned on him.
Additionally- he supports intelligent design in the classrooms. I can't support that.
| 1008 |
doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:43:37pm |
re: #977 zombie
Third party candidates take note: 2012 may be your year!
In late 2007/early 2008, I was thinking the Democrats were so divided that I wouldn't be surprised to see them split into two parties. Success seems to have brought them together. Now, I would actually love to see the Republican party split. If the extreme right took their toys and went home, I think a lot of conservative Democrats and independents would give the GOP another look.
| 1009 |
esch Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:43:51pm |
re: #1005 eschew_obfuscation
Heh... I bought a thumb drive in June. Removed it without stopping it first. Now it's unusable. I can format it, but the system just hangs when I try to access it.
Get the HP USB Flash drive tool and format with that.
| 1010 |
reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:43:51pm |
re: #997 KenJen
Well,I think it is a nuclear Sub...so ..Yeah!
| 1011 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:44:10pm |
re: #978 ~Fianna
Yeah, the nice thing is that USB 3.5s are getting cheaper and cheaper. They're a good thing to have about, just in case. I use my flash drive for things now. It still blows my mind that I can carry more memory in my pocket now than my first computer even had.
I didn't even realize that my laptop doesn't have one, and when I built the servers, I didn't buy 3.5 drives for them.
I cringe a little at the $429 I spent on my first hard drive. 100MB was awesome capacity at the time (early '90s).
| 1012 |
DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:44:15pm |
re: #1002 zombie
(Anyway, I live in California, which is going to go 60% for Obama anyway, so it's not as if my vote even mattered.)
I think by 2012 even California is going to disown Obama.
| 1013 |
yochanan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:44:40pm |
did we learn anything about the perfect circular firing squad in the last election
we are never going to get a perfect candidate so please stop with this nonsense since we really don't have to worry about who is running for POTUS until at least 2011
DAYANU
| 1014 |
eschew_obfuscation Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:44:44pm |
re: #1009 esch
Get the HP USB Flash drive tool and format with that.
Wow... I'll give that a try. Thanks!
| 1015 |
reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:44:52pm |
re: #1003 Gus 802
A rusted un maint... piece of shit!
| 1016 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:44:59pm |
re: #1003 Gus 802
Wasn't that bridge collapse caused by a design flaw?
Old design, non-redundant weak point, less-than-needed maintenance.
Newer structures (I forgot the cut-off date, sorry) have redundant load paths that would have allowed the first failure without collapsing the bridge. Better inspection might have caught the degradation of the joint that initially collapsed.
| 1017 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:45:02pm |
Furthermore- Pawlenty is just kind of boring. Lacks charisma.
| 1018 |
mikalm Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:45:06pm |
re: #1002 zombie
(Anyway, I live in California, which is going to go 60% for Obama anyway, so it's not as if my vote even mattered.)
That's exactly how I felt last year, Zom. The state was in the bag for 0, so I just cast a protest vote for Bob Barr (partly on the strength of how he, unlike Luap Nor, told the White-Power entrists to stick their money where the sun don't shine.)
| 1019 |
Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:45:07pm |
re: #998 unrealizedviewpoint
Please kick Nancy Pelosi out, will ya?
Nancy isn't a Napa Valley Rep...I think George Miller was my rep when we lived there..I never saw Nancy on a ballot
| 1020 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:45:23pm |
re: #960 LudwigVanQuixote
I would be up for that.
My favorite bumper sticker of all time (updated)
CTHULU 2012! Why choose the lesser of evils?
I've got a photo of that somewhere on my site.
| 1021 |
cliffster Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:45:55pm |
re: #1012 DrNaughty
I think by 2012 even California is going to disown Obama.
Hawaii will revoke his birth certificate.
| 1022 |
debutaunt Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:46:08pm |
re: #903 LudwigVanQuixote
well, Sheep are good eating and they have women there too - like Rachel Hunter... So y'know not all bad. They also have hobbits apparently.
Mr. Research!
| 1023 |
esch Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:46:21pm |
| 1024 |
DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:46:29pm |
re: #1019 HoosierHoops
Nancy isn't a Napa Valley Rep...I think George Miller was my rep when we lived there..I never saw Nancy on a ballot
I had a chance to meet George Miller back in the mid 90s when I was in DC working on some remote sensing projects. He was a gracious and very intelligent man and funded many of the projects I was working on at the time at Oak Ridge National Labs...
| 1025 |
Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:46:59pm |
Charles, I'm finding I get a lot of "unresponsive script" messages these days, too. And if I stay logged in to LGF overnight, I actually have to restart my computer in the morning. Obviously I'm going to start logging out, but thought you'd want to know.
I'm using the current Leopard, latest Firefox, NoScript (set to allow all on LGF).
| 1026 |
unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:47:00pm |
Fidel Castro says racist right-wingers fight Obama
HAVANA (Reuters) - President Barack Obama is trying to make positive changes in the United States, but is being fought at every turn by right-wingers who hate him because he is black, former Cuban leader Fidel Castro said on Tuesday.
In an unusually conciliatory column in the state-run media, Castro said Obama had inherited many problems from his predecessor, George W. Bush, and was trying to resolve them. But the "powerful extreme right won't be happy with anything that diminishes their prerogatives in the slightest way."
Obama does not want to change the U.S. political and economic system, but "in spite of that, the extreme right hates him for being African-American and fights what the president does to improve the deteriorated image of that country," Castro wrote.
"I don't have the slightest doubt that the racist right will do everything possible to wear him down, blocking his program to get him out of the game one way or another, at the least political cost," he said.
| 1027 |
yochanan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:47:12pm |
re: #992 DrNaughty
WHAT THE HELL IS A 8GB thumb drive on their key chain...Just in case
| 1028 |
Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:47:14pm |
re: #1020 zombie
I've got a photo of that somewhere on my site.
Had a Miskatonic U sweatshirt, home of the fightin' Cephlapods
| 1029 |
debutaunt Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:47:33pm |
re: #959 karmic_inquisitor
OK - I have a poll:
Have you ever been flipping channels on the TV and come across a movie/show that you own on DVD but you end up watching it on TV anyway?
Yes! It always strikes me kinda funny.
| 1030 |
lostlakehiker Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:47:42pm |
re: #432 LudwigVanQuixote
OK seriously...
Smarter and better educated:
Palin or Obama? Answer truthfully.
What about Creationist Huckabee or Obama: Answer truthfully.
Ron Paul or Obama? Answer truthfully.Go down the list of who the GOP is putting up...
I am not saying that because Obama is smarter and better educated that he is always right. Far from it. I really despise many of his policies.
However. Trying to pick on Obama because he actually is smart and educated is the kind of ignorant crap that the GOP excels at.
I thought for a time that Obama was very smart. Looking at the train wreck he's made of his first half-year in office has me doubting my previous take.
Better educated? Obama. No room for dispute there.
Smarter? Looking at the train wreck Palin has made of her past half-year has me giving the nod to Obama. They've both lost some ground. But this one's not that obvious. Education is not the same thing as native smarts, and Palin hasn't the team to clean up after gaffes, nor the media to airbrush them out of the record, that Obama has. This makes it hard to tell who would outscore whom if both were given some IQ tests under controlled conditions.
Better educated, Obama or Huckabee? Again, the nod has to go to Obama.
Smarter? Again, hard to tell. The trouble is, we don't know whether Huckabee himself believes what he's saying about science. It may well be that he believes it is to his political advantage to say those things, and in this, he might even be correct when it comes to Arkansas voters. But Obama has said some preposterous things, e.g., that doctors get paid thirty thousand dollars to do an amputation. If we knew he believed that, we'd know he was not very bright. But he may just believe it is to his political advantage to say so. Alinsky rules say you have to demonize somebody. The pharmaceutical companies at one point had paid the protection money so they couldn't be the target. That left insurance companies and doctors.
Better educated, Obama or Ron Paul? This time, Ron Paul may be better educated. An MD is nothing to sniff at, and we will never know how much of a thumb was on the scale with respect to Obama's education. But that is beside the point, because Ron Paul isn't serious. He's a clown, acting up to get attention. Having once gone clown, you never go back.
The Republicans are going to have to either go with Romney or reach deeper into the talent "bench" if they want to have any chance in 2012. This even though, the way things are going at the white house and in the nation, that election is shaping up as one that the Republicans should find un-losable.
| 1031 |
Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:47:44pm |
re: #1016 OldLineTexan
Old design, non-redundant weak point, less-than-needed maintenance.
Newer structures (I forgot the cut-off date, sorry) have redundant load paths that would have allowed the first failure without collapsing the bridge. Better inspection might have caught the degradation of the joint that initially collapsed.
OK, thanks. Inspection could have caught it but that's a hard call. Looks like Minnesota is suing the design firm for 37 million. I know a lot of this can be seen as "the blame game." They also mentioned that it might have been overloaded with paving throughout the lifespan, etc.
| 1032 |
unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:47:54pm |
re: #1019 HoosierHoops
Nancy isn't a Napa Valley Rep...I think George Miller was my rep when we lived there..I never saw Nancy on a ballot
She owns a winery in Napa
| 1033 |
Charpete67 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:47:56pm |
re: #1003 Gus 802
Wasn't that bridge collapse caused by a design flaw?
yes and there were inspection issues
| 1034 |
Dianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:48:09pm |
re: #995 Sharmuta
I think so too. That and he can point to a record of reducing taxes in Minnesota, but that's about it. The bridge collapse will not be treated with such kid gloves as the MN press has given him. He has no chance, imo.
I am not disagreeing with you, but I must ask: Why would the bridge collapse in particular be his death-knell?
| 1035 |
Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:48:16pm |
re: #1005 eschew_obfuscation
Heh... I bought a thumb drive in June. Removed it without stopping it first. Now it's unusable. I can format it, but the system just hangs when I try to access it.
That is really rare but it does happen from time to time...
| 1036 |
zelnaga Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:48:22pm |
re: #97 SFGoth
I'm still holding out hope for a conservatarian, black lesbian who looks Grace Jones, recites the Bill of Rights every night before bed, hates taxes, can debate the merits of the 3-4 v. the 4-3, and won't take shit from any "debate" questioner who throws her a loaded one. Oh, and her VEEP is Giuliani because he's the one who wears the dress. ;->
The 3-4 v. the 4-3? I have no clue what that is...
| 1037 |
doppelganglander Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:48:25pm |
re: #1028 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Had a Miskatonic U sweatshirt, home of the fightin' Cephlapods
I have a similar t-shirt, with the school seal.
| 1038 |
~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:48:43pm |
re: #985 Kosh's Shadow
I wonder if I can still make a bootable floppy on Vista. Does it keep a version of DOS buried somewhere to install on the boot sectors?
It should. It's harder to get down to the c:> prompt in Vista, but I've been there to ping test networks.
| 1039 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:49:00pm |
re: #752 ~Fianna
Are there also "pompous intellectual conservatives"?
One thing that's always bothered me about American culture is that there is a long tradition of anti-intellectualism that's part of our self-view. I respect educated people who can make a good argument, even if I disagree with the argument, I'm likely to walk away having learned something that I didn't know before. I'd rather have 20 "pompous intellectuals" in a room discussing than a 20 uninformed fools shouting.
Is there an assumption here that "pompous intellectuals" will discuss rather than shout, and that they will actually make sense?
And a second assumption that shouters are necessarily "uninformed fools"? Perhaps they just want those "pompous intellectuals" to shut up for a minute and actually listen to somebone other than each other.
| 1040 |
zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:49:03pm |
re: #986 mikalm
When confronted with equally odious D/R alternatives, I've voted third-party in the past. Should Obama come up against Palin or the like in 2012, I'll probably click the box next to "Libertarian", even though I consider them almost as loathsome as the current big parties.
I generally vote for wacky candidates when I go third party.
| 1041 |
albusteve Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:49:09pm |
| 1042 |
OldLineTexan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:49:12pm |
re: #1031 Gus 802
OK, thanks. Inspection could have caught it but that's a hard call. Looks like Minnesota is suing the design firm for 37 million. I know a lot of this can be seen as "the blame game." They also mentioned that it might have been overloaded with paving throughout the lifespan, etc.
The state should lose. The design was acceptable by old standards; the state could have replaced it when the standards changed.
| 1043 |
Kragar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:49:12pm |
| 1044 |
Dr. Shalit Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:49:27pm |
re: #951 ~Fianna
I still remember when floppies were actually floppy.
We've got a few of those kicking around, still... I need to do something with them, too, since none of the current boxen even HAVE 3.5 drives.
~Fianna -
Good Catch - New Box is "Floppy-Less" - Have a USB "Floppy-Cator" for some legacy stuff. New box recognized it in seconds and we were off to the Copy File Races. As for "Boxen" - what about "Oxen" (Buyes en Espanol). Check out the Miami Herald "Nuevo" - 50 years after the Revolution, CUBA is breeding Oxen as apparently they can no longer afford tractors or fuel - headline translates something like "Cuba Advances to the Past to the Beat of Oxen.
-S-
| 1045 |
cronus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:49:33pm |
re: #988 Charpete67
...as a candidate...I think it comes from the rumors that McCain was considering him for VP
I think Pawlenty's running. He's jumped in the fray lately looking to fill the "leading Republican Governor" void left by Mark Sanford (R-Buenos Aires). I think he might get decent traction largely because I think there will be a strong sentiment to pick a governor this time around and all R governors will get a serious look.
| 1046 |
Sheila Broflovski Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:49:38pm |
| 1047 |
Dianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:49:46pm |
re: #1007 Sharmuta
Right or wrong, the bridge will be pinned on him.
Additionally- he supports intelligent design in the classrooms. I can't support that.
The latter is the problem!
| 1048 |
reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:49:50pm |
re: #1030 lostlakehiker
Lets bear in mind Einstein was a genius!
Yet couldn't drive a car!!
| 1049 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:50:10pm |
re: #1031 Gus 802
That bridge was deemed hazardous for a very long time. IMO- the state of MN is suing in an effort to cover their ass.
| 1050 |
DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:50:17pm |
re: #1048 reloadingisnotahobby
Lets bear in mind Einstein was a genius!
Yet couldn't drive a car!!
He also smoked
| 1051 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:50:18pm |
re: #1039 reine.de.tout
Is there an assumption here that "pompous intellectuals" will discuss rather than shout, and that they will actually make sense?
And a second assumption that shouters are necessarily "uninformed fools"? Perhaps they just want those "pompous intellectuals" to shut up for a minute and actually listen to
somebonesomeone other than each other.
argh!
| 1052 |
Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:50:36pm |
re: #1042 OldLineTexan
The state should lose. The design was acceptable by old standards; the state could have replaced it when the standards changed.
Right. Sounds like a bullshit lawsuit.
| 1054 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:51:39pm |
re: #1047 Dianna
The latter is the problem!
I agree! But the political reality is the bridge collapse is something Pawlenty will have to deal with and the national press will not give him the treatment he received in Minnesota.
| 1055 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:51:41pm |
re: #1024 DrNaughty
I had a chance to meet George Miller back in the mid 90s when I was in DC working on some remote sensing projects. He was a gracious and very intelligent man and funded many of the projects I was working on at the time at Oak Ridge National Labs...
And his direction of Mad Max was awesome.
/
| 1056 |
midwestgak Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:51:57pm |
re: #1051 reine.de.tout
Come on, {reine}. That was funny. :)
| 1057 |
Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:52:04pm |
re: #1049 Sharmuta
That bridge was deemed hazardous for a very long time. IMO- the state of MN is suing in an effort to cover their ass.
Pawlenty
How about, Huntsman?
Oops, never mind, too late.
| 1058 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:52:41pm |
re: #1057 Gus 802
PawlentyHow about, Huntsman?
Oops, never mind, too late.
The GOP is not ready for a Huntsman, imo.
| 1059 |
Kosh's Shadow Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:52:41pm |
re: #1038 ~Fianna
It should. It's harder to get down to the c:> prompt in Vista, but I've been there to ping test networks.
Run: cmd
brings up a command prompt in NT, 2000, XP, Vista.
| 1061 |
reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:52:52pm |
re: #1050 DrNaughty
From your previous comment I gather your not
an OBGYN!;-)
| 1062 |
DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:53:07pm |
re: #1053 reloadingisnotahobby
GASP!!
LOL
I analyze satellite imagery; enhance; rectify and perform different enhancements to it ever day.
However besides place a call using my cell phone, I'm pretty useless figuring out it's other functions...
| 1063 |
MrSilverDragon Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:53:10pm |
re: #1012 DrNaughty
I think by 2012 even California is going to disown Obama.
I wouldn't hold my breath on that.
| 1064 |
DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:53:45pm |
re: #1061 reloadingisnotahobby
From your previous comment I gather your not
an OBGYN!;-)
No, I'm a geographer specializing in satellite remote sensing and photogrammetry...
| 1065 |
lostlakehiker Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:53:52pm |
I wonder if it is a good idea to use the connotation-charged word "pimp" in connection with Palin. Granted, the word has gained new currency with a far less curse-loaded meaning than its original. Still, there are parts of the country where that sort of language still carries quite a charge.
Never thought I'd be doing a feminist word-nazi schtick, but there's my two cents' worth.
| 1066 |
CyanSnowHawk Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:53:55pm |
| 1067 |
reine.de.tout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:54:05pm |
re: #1056 midwestgak
Come on, {reine}. That was funny. :)
LOL.
It was.
I had to laugh.
When I type on these long threads, my letters don't show up until LONG after I've typed them and I miss those typos. But that was a funny one.
| 1068 |
Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:54:17pm |
re: #1058 Sharmuta
The GOP is not ready for a Huntsman, imo.
Right. Which was apparent early this summer. Now he's off in Singapore as ambassador.
| 1069 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:54:52pm |
re: #1068 Gus 802
Right. Which was apparent early this summer. Now he's off in Singapore as ambassador.
He's in China.
We might be ready for him in 2016.
| 1070 |
Digital Display Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:54:58pm |
re: #1032 unrealizedviewpoint
She owns a winery in Napa
I'm not sure who that is rich or famous doesn't own a Winery in Napa Valley.
Sleep well tonight knowing she is paying a shit load of taxes in Napa...
And you can bet your life she doesn't need a 90 day reservation to eat at the French Laundry in Yountville...
The rich and powerful
| 1071 |
~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:55:27pm |
re: #994 cliffster
You can carry more memory in your eyelash than your first computer ever had.
Good point.
Let's not even talk about network speed. My first experience with teh internetz involved an acoustic coupler.
| 1072 |
Dianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:55:28pm |
re: #1054 Sharmuta
By 2012? I don't know. I know I would be unhappy if he were the front-runner; but the bridge is as much a failure of the legislature as the governor.
Though somehow, I'm having hysterical moments imagining Pawlenty out there placing charges to make the bridge collapse...
| 1073 |
reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:56:39pm |
| 1074 |
cronus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:56:46pm |
re: #1054 Sharmuta
I agree! But the political reality is the bridge collapse is something Pawlenty will have to deal with and the national press will not give him the treatment he received in Minnesota.
I don't think the bridge ends up being much of an issue. I'm guessing most reasonable people would equate it to blaming Bush for 9-11. I do think his larger liability is what you already pointed out. He makes John McCain look like a riveting public speaker.
| 1075 |
Gus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:56:56pm |
re: #1069 Sharmuta
He's in China.
We might be ready for him in 2016.
China, right, my mistake.
He's an interesting politician. Maybe in 2016.
| 1076 |
DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:57:01pm |
re: #1072 Dianna
By 2012? I don't know. I know I would be unhappy if he were the front-runner; but the bridge is as much a failure of the legislature as the governor.
Though somehow, I'm having hysterical moments imagining Pawlenty out there placing charges to make the bridge collapse...
Why is it I get this feeling in the pit of my stomach that the United States in 2009 is about at the same timeline in its history as 4th Century Rome?
| 1077 |
mikalm Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:57:13pm |
re: #1040 zombie
I generally vote for wacky candidates when I go third party.
In the infamous California gubernatorial-recall election, when there were 125 candidates for Governor on the ballot, I voted for pr0n-star Mary Carey. Hell -- a Dada election deserves a Dada vote!
| 1078 |
~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:57:47pm |
re: #1044 Dr. Shalit
~Fianna -
Good Catch - New Box is "Floppy-Less" - Have a USB "Floppy-Cator" for some legacy stuff. New box recognized it in seconds and we were off to the Copy File Races. As for "Boxen" - what about "Oxen" (Buyes en Espanol). Check out the Miami Herald "Nuevo" - 50 years after the Revolution, CUBA is breeding Oxen as apparently they can no longer afford tractors or fuel - headline translates something like "Cuba Advances to the Past to the Beat of Oxen.
-S-
Hmph, some socialist paradise. Do they have any idea how much methane those oxen will produce?
///
| 1079 |
Kenneth Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:57:49pm |
re: #1001 OldLineTexan
I voted for Giant Douche, but Turd Sandwich won.
Why is that always the case?
| 1080 |
Dianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:58:07pm |
re: #1076 DrNaughty
Why is it I get this feeling in the pit of my stomach that the United States in 2009 is about at the same timeline in its history as 4th Century Rome?
Actually, some friends and I have been wondering if we're not looking a bit more at late Republican Rome, at least as an analogy.
| 1081 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:58:21pm |
re: #1072 Dianna
I personally am not trying to place blame of the bridge collapse on anyone. I'm speaking in politically realistic terms- the collapse can and will be used against him, right or wrong. It will be a liability to him.
| 1082 |
unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:58:34pm |
re: #1072 Dianna
By 2012? I don't know. I know I would be unhappy if he were the front-runner; but the bridge is as much a failure of the legislature as the governor.
Though somehow, I'm having hysterical moments imagining Pawlenty out there placing charges to make the bridge collapse...
Careful, you're going to create Pawlenty Truthers with that kind a talk.
| 1083 |
brandon13 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:59:03pm |
re: #769 zombie
OK, this calls for a poll again:
In a theoretical matchup of 2012 races of Obama against various potential Republican opponents, how would you vote in the following races, if in fact each of the following Republicans got the nomination:
Q: If faced with each of the following choices on the 2012 ticket, how would you vote?
1. Obama vs Romney
2. Obama vs. Giuliani
3. Obama vs. Palin
4. Obama vs. Jindal
This is NOT a question about how likely each Republican is to get the nomination. This is a theoretical question about who you would vote in each putative scenario, granting that the Republican candidate in question indeed already got the nomination in 2012.
In each case, you can also answer "I'd refuse to vote" or "I'd vote for a third-party candidate."
That polling stations are now open! Time to vote!
1. Obama vs. Romney (most likely Romney, but it's possible I could vote for Obama or a third party)
2. Obama vs. Giuliani (probably third party, but either one could potentially get my vote)
3. Obama vs. Palin (Obama or third party)
4. Obama vs. Jindal (Obama or third party)
| 1084 |
reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:59:10pm |
re: #1064 DrNaughty
Now that sounds like an interesting job!
They pay ya for that?LOL
Welcome ...
Could ya look for my Ray Bans I lost last week at the lake??
| 1085 |
Dianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:59:55pm |
re: #1081 Sharmuta
Oh, I didn't think you were - I'm simply puzzled that anyone will try to use it against Pawlenty. By 2012, I don't think anyone will remember it, honestly.
Of course, we shall see.
| 1086 |
unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:59:57pm |
re: #1080 Dianna
Actually, some friends and I have been wondering if we're not looking a bit more at late Republican Rome, at least as an analogy.
A friend of mine points out regularly that the raiding of the treasury, as is happening now, is usually the beginning of the end of a govt.
| 1087 |
DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:00:04pm |
re: #1084 reloadingisnotahobby
Now that sounds like an interesting job!
They pay ya for that?LOL
Welcome ...
Could ya look for my Ray Bans I lost last week at the lake??
hehe.. Actually unless there is a UAV flying over you at the time probably not :)
| 1088 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:00:05pm |
re: #1074 cronus
I don't think the bridge ends up being much of an issue. I'm guessing most reasonable people would equate it to blaming Bush for 9-11. I do think his larger liability is what you already pointed out. He makes John McCain look like a riveting public speaker.
Yes- he's the right's answer to al gore. He's a tree.
| 1089 |
yochanan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:00:19pm |
re: #1039 reine.de.tout
I live near northwestern u. i see more pompous intelligentsia than I can shake a stick at about as closed a mind set as you can find. they read the new york slime as if it was the Torah from har Sinai.
Miskatonic U would produce more honest thinkers than an elitist school like northwestern.
| 1090 |
Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:00:27pm |
I really cannot think of a more boring republican than Tim Pawlenty.
| 1091 |
Rancher Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:00:57pm |
I would vote for Ron Paul or even Glen Beck over Obama. My God, after what he's done so far I would be hard pressed to think of anyone I wouldn't rather have in charge. Pelosi maybe, but Obama seems to have left the details of his "redistributive change" to her and other far-left elements in the Congress (and their staffers).
| 1093 |
reloadingisnotahobby Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:02:24pm |
Don't now weather it's LGF or my puter but things are funky
here...
Good day all!
| 1094 |
albusteve Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:02:33pm |
re: #1091 Rancher
I would vote for Ron Paul or even Glen Beck over Obama. My God, after what he's done so far I would be hard pressed to think of anyone I wouldn't rather have in charge. Pelosi maybe, but Obama seems to have left the details of his "redistributive change" to her and other far-left elements in the Congress (and their staffers).
you may get that chance someday...it would not surprise me in the least to see Beck run for office
| 1095 |
DrNaughty Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:02:39pm |
re: #1090 Sharmuta
I really cannot think of a more boring republican than Tim Pawlenty.
I can't recall his name right now, but I believe is from Ohio and has a horrid nasal sound to his voice when he's on television.
| 1097 |
yochanan Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:03:18pm |
re: #1083 brandon13
i wouldn't vote for the zero if he was the only one running.
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cronus Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:03:50pm |
re: #597 itellu3times
I see. Well, if true, would Obama accept? And if not, would Panetta insist? I have trouble groking this. Simpler if Panetta slipped in the kitchen or was hit by a truck, right?
My guess is that if true it would leak in almost real time and Obama would have no choice but to accept. But the rumor is now being knocked down so apparently there wasn't anything to it in the first place.
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kcladderman Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:05:26pm |
re: #1060 buzzsawmonkey
Lots of people who grew up when the automobile was new never learned to drive. For that matter, I knew someone at school who had never bothered to learn.
I see people everyday who can't drive a car. Unfortunately they are all behind the wheel of one.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:06:47pm |
re: #438 Desert Dog
I grant you the better educated, but I question his intelligence. I think he is vastly over-rated in that department. He can read a speech very well. That is the special skill that brought him into the White House. Take him off the TOTUS and he is mealy-mouthed and incoherent. And, so far, his vision, his plan for the the USA, is rehashed garbage the left has been regurgitating for years. Spending ourselves to death is not very smart. Giving your enemies hope and slapping your allies is not very smart either. I cannot think of much Obama has done or said while in office that smacks of "super intelligent".
Remember, Wil E Coyote was a "Super Genius". Never seemed to work out for him either. Intelligence does not translate to capability. I have a great friend who has a PHD in Optical Physics. He has trouble crossing the street without help. He lacks common sense.
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Dr. Shalit Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:08:39pm |
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Charpete67 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:11:30pm |
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Rancher Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:12:35pm |
re: #1094 albusteve
you may get that chance someday...it would not surprise me in the least to see Beck run for office
It would surprise me if he won the nomination. It's not a choice I'd want to have to make but then neither was McCain.
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~Fianna Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:12:55pm |
re: #1094 albusteve
you may get that chance someday...it would not surprise me in the least to see Beck run for office
Oh, by all that's good and holy, no.
do. not. want.
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born conservative Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:14:09pm |
re: #292 Charles
However, he has also done an great job of educating people about Saul Alinsky and Leftist tactics. American Thinker has numerous articles about Alinsky and the Left, if anyone is curious. And, as I posted the other day, David Horowitz has done a series of blogs about Alinksy. Palin has posted an excellent piece on Facebook about tort reform. I've learned a lot from Beck and Horowitz and admire Palin. Wish I could provide the links, but I'm not internet savvy.
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:21:13pm |
re: #1107 born conservative
I updinged you solely to counter Cato.
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MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:22:52pm |
re: #601 CyanSnowHawk
She has no idea the legal liability that she just stepped into.
Yeah, such as a possible "incitement to violence" rap.
/Pam, you're a f**king moron...
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unrealizedviewpoint Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:24:01pm |
re: #1108 unrealizedviewpoint
I updinged you solely to counter Cato.
Actually, I updinged you because you deserved an upding. I appreciate your honesty, unlike Cato's.
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What, me worry? Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:25:26pm |
re: #768 reine.de.tout
Sorry for the late reply. I was using IE7 and it was sooo slow. I switched to Firefox and things are loading much better (I know Charles has been tweaking also which is great).
I respectfully disagree with you and Buzz. It's quite an accomplishment to attend an Ivy League school and for me, intelligence will always trump the ability to sit down and have a beer with someone. Bush being more of the latter than the former.
I also think the irony is shocking that anyone should make fun of Obama's manner of speaking (when he stammers) while supporting a man like Bush who often couldn't put a coherent sentence together.
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Rancher Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:31:24pm |
re: #560 Killgore Trout
OT: Wow - Crazy Pam is posting the address, phone number and pics of a Muslim family's home. She's going to have some legal problems. God forbid the family gets attacked over this.
Are we talking about Atlas?
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zombie Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:33:05pm |
re: #1077 mikalm
In the infamous California gubernatorial-recall election, when there were 125 candidates for Governor on the ballot, I voted for pr0n-star Mary Carey. Hell -- a Dada election deserves a Dada vote!
I seriously considered voting for Frank Moore for President in 2008.
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jvic Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:36:43pm |
re: #1111 marjoriemoon
I respectfully disagree with you and Buzz. It's quite an accomplishment to attend an Ivy League school and for me, intelligence will always trump the ability to sit down and have a beer with someone. Bush being more of the latter than the former.
When deciding whether to give someone my serious attention, I add points for their intelligence (interpreted broadly)--and I deduct points for things like obscureness, arrogance, unnecessary nastiness, etc.
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Mich-again Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:45:14pm |
I got that update from Sarah on my FB page and I was like oh geeze. You gotta be kidding me.
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Oldasdirt Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:55:26pm |
I see Charles doin a beat down on Beck.
Has he become a libatard?
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reine.de.tout Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:58:36pm |
re: #1111 marjoriemoon
Sorry for the late reply. I was using IE7 and it was sooo slow. I switched to Firefox and things are loading much better (I know Charles has been tweaking also which is great).
I respectfully disagree with you and Buzz. It's quite an accomplishment to attend an Ivy League school and for me, intelligence will always trump the ability to sit down and have a beer with someone. Bush being more of the latter than the former.
I also think the irony is shocking that anyone should make fun of Obama's manner of speaking (when he stammers) while supporting a man like Bush who often couldn't put a coherent sentence together.
It is indeed quite an accomplishment to attend an Ivy League school, and I have never suggested it isn't. Both Bush and Obama attended Ivy League schools, did they not? That did not stop the left from being dismissive of Bush's level of intelligence. How is that any less "anti-intellectual" than conservatives who Obama's abilitites?
However, I would not necessarily automatically equate attendance an at Ivy League school with either raw intelligence or the ability to do well in the real world.
I have an entire collection of "bushisms" that I read and laugh at regularly. Why would I suddenly now be suspect because I question Obama's non-prompter speaking?
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Athos Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:02:43pm |
re: #1116 Oldasdirt
I see Charles doin a beat down on Beck.
Has he become a libatard?
Far be it for me to answer for him, but from my standpoint, no.
Disliking Beck, and the guests / people he promotes like Beck's fellow libretarian laup nor, doesn't make one a libatard.
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harpsicon Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:02:44pm |
re: #1030 lostlakehiker
"we will never know how much of a thumb was on the scale with respect to Obama's education."
Exactly.
But this might help. Who gets cum laude, or magna or summa, is a matter of public record at the Ivies. Back in the day (and probably still) an enormous percentage got honors. (This was either due to grade inflation, or because there were so many wonderful graduates, depending on who you talk to.)
While we've never seen Obama's transcripts, he did not get honors at Columbia as an undergraduate. So he was almost surely in the bottom half of his class.
And yet he gets into Harvard Law. Right...
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:07:00pm |
re: #1118 Athos
Far be it for me to answer for him, but from my standpoint, no.
Disliking Beck, and the guests / people he promotes like Beck's fellow libretarian laup nor, doesn't make one a libatard.
Buckley wasn't considered a liberal when he had issues with the Birchers.
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Oldasdirt Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:10:49pm |
Well i think Beck is doing a great job exposing this shadow government that the O is building with his czars
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:14:37pm |
re: #1121 Oldasdirt
You are insane if you think there is a shadow government. Get a grip.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:16:53pm |
re: #1123 Sharmuta
You are insane if you think there is a shadow government. Get a grip.
Everyone knows the shadow government went away with Cheney!!
///
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Sharmuta Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:20:43pm |
re: #1124 rwdflynavy
Sharmuta cannot reply to you. We are currently taking her to the FEMA camp re-education program.
Signed, Shadow Government Agents
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:25:04pm |
re: #1125 Sharmuta
Sharmuta cannot reply to you. We are currently taking her to the FEMA camp re-education program.
Signed, Shadow Government Agents
/I knew it!!!
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:26:22pm |
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ssn697 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:32:17pm |
I followed the link, then went to Palin's main facebook page. One of the first six people listed in her friends is my fairly recently departed friend.
Gave me goosebumps. The oddest of things today.
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offsetview Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:25:29pm |
saw a post about how palin associating with beck, like this may damage her creditability. look who the president is taking up with. my goodness do the American people have to have an anvil fall on there head for them to see what is going on (behind the scenes) in our government. yes it has happened in the past in other administrations. but with everything traveling at a terminal velocity. i glad someoneis profiling the activities of this president and his staff, excuse me, "advisers".
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:36:04pm |
re: #1116 Oldasdirt
Well, Beck is a libertarian, and acts like something of a tard, so I guess you could call him a libtard.
Was that what you were going for?
/
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Baelzar Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:05:17pm |
re: #20 albusteve
heh, don't underestimate her and Beck and the rest of them...they are not just going to go away
I know, that's what we should be afraid of.
Seriously; were I the left, I'd be funneling money to Beck and Palin. I'd finance her entire campaign. Guaranteed win for the left.
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doubter4444 Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:20:39pm |
re: #876 jorline
Finally...something the UN knows something about...plenty of circle-jerks.
U.N. Report Advocates Teaching Masturbation to 5-Year-Olds
Why do we send money to the UN?
Perhaps its so the children of the world will be better educated when UN troops visit their country.
This is the website for the opposing group:
[Link: www.mcpscurriculum.com...]
They seem pretty dead set on any teaching outside the home, and are pretty much against any public schooling, this is their hobby horse.
The article was spun for maximum outrage effect, so don't believe everything you read.
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Dr. Shalit Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:39:27pm |
re: #1103 Dr. Shalit
Revise and Extend -
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The Left Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:46:01pm |
re: #759 Jimmah
One word : 'Wingularity'.
I think we are fast approaching it.
I'd love to see the word Wingularity being used here more often. It's a perfect term:
“This punchy term nicely captures the way that rightwing argumentation has become gradually detached from independently recognized reality and into a state of total unselfawareness. […]Thanks to the magic of talk radio and the internet, these guys can talk to no-one but each other for extremely long stretches of time, so they have no idea how crazy they sound. The time could come in the very near future when it becomes totally impossible for any ordinary person to have any idea what they are talking about. They will be beyond ordinary logic, beyond spoof. The wingularity will have arrived.”
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Aye Pod Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:38:16pm |
re: #1134 iceweasel
“This punchy term nicely captures the way that rightwing argumentation has become gradually detached from independently recognized reality and into a state of total unselfawareness. […]Thanks to the magic of talk radio and the internet, these guys can talk to no-one but each other for extremely long stretches of time, so they have no idea how crazy they sound.The time could come in the very near future when it becomes totally impossible for any ordinary person to have any idea what they are talking about. They will be beyond ordinary logic, beyond spoof. The wingularity will have arrived.”
The coming together of the 'minds' of Palin and Beck really does seem like an ominous indicator of this awful event.
And what a meeting of 'minds' that would be. Hard not to picture it as a horrible kind of slow motion braincrash, with the mangled corpse of reason inextricably embedded in the twisted wreckage left behind.
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The Left Wed, Aug 26, 2009 9:17:39pm |
re: #1135 Jimmah
The coming together of the 'minds' of Palin and Beck really does seem like an ominous indicator of this awful event.
And what a meeting of 'minds' that would be. Hard not to picture it as a horrible kind of slow motion braincrash, with the mangled corpse of reason inextricably embedded in the twisted wreckage left behind.
"braincrash". Love it. ;) And all Chris Morris references, as you know.
The comments on the Balloon Juice article are hilarious. I love this one, by 'Warren Terra':
I think I’ve seen it proposed that the Singularity will come when humans create, then merge with, thinking machines.
Clearly the path to the Wingularity is precisely the opposite: a political machine must create, then merge with, unthinking humans.
Also, love the nic!
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:31:10pm |
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Cato the Elder Wed, Aug 26, 2009 10:33:29pm |
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The Left Wed, Aug 26, 2009 11:21:01pm |
re: #1137 Cato the Elder
Wheeze:
Just for you.
[Video]
Cato! My favourite Roman...that was AWESOME! I love Johnny Cash.
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ihateronpaul Thu, Aug 27, 2009 7:51:56am |
re: #36 MrSilverDragon
Followed closely by "Institutionalized" by Suicidal Tendencies if things keep up this way.
all I wanted was a pepsi fox news contract!
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Spiker Thu, Aug 27, 2009 12:32:25pm |
I used to be addicted to LGF, took a break for awhile (needed a break from the blogs after the coronation of the big O), now I check back and everyone hates Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin, or at least just thinks they're crazy. What's going on?
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Eclectic Infidel Thu, Aug 27, 2009 8:24:14pm |
re: #1141 Spiker
I used to be addicted to LGF, took a break for awhile (needed a break from the blogs after the coronation of the big O), now I check back and everyone hates Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin, or at least just thinks they're crazy. What's going on?
What's going on? Do a search for Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin in the LGF toolbar. Read up on Beck's bat guano crazy rants on Fox for starters.
As for Sarah Palin (and strictly in my own opinion), I'd have to say that she's becoming a disappointment to those who were strongly in favor of her being VP.
Look, here's an example of Beck's lunacy:
The Govt is the Devil
and Palin willingly promotes this when she back Beck. That's a MAJOR disappointment.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:36:41am |
re: #929 zombie
Thanks.
I think someone should summarize these answers and forward them to the Republican Central Committee! Maybe if they saw how people felt, it would have an influence.
The main influence it would have would be to induce the talk-radio crowd to start howling about RINOs and what-not. Somehow, it would be chalked up to the influence of the "Liberal Media".
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