South Carolina Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer is calling on philandering creationist governor Mark Sanford to resign, but Sanford says he won’t be “railroaded” out of office by people who just can’t seem to understand that he is a special human being.
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Sharmuta Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:34:43am |
He should not be railroaded out of office, but rather secretly whisked away leaving his staff wondering where exactly the governor is.
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CIA Reject Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:34:43am |
He won't be "railroaded" out of office?
What is this guy a Democrat all of a sudden?
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:35:10am |
To quote an eminent scholar of human behavior: "Good Grief"
-Charlie Brown
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:36:14am |
He doesn't seem to grasp the idea of responsibilities: to his children, his wife, the state of South Carolina.
These are all responsibilities that he signed up for, and that he has bailed on when he wanted something else.
He needs to step aside and let someone more reliable take over--at least for the state. The boys are stuck with him.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:36:32am |
Ok, so no railroading... howzabout runwaying?
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Dianna Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:36:48am |
Go, Governor, go while there's some sort of dignity. Not that there's much, but...please.
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doppelganglander Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:36:50am |
If he wants to play that way, the South Carolina legislature can just impeach him.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:36:51am |
Please, just go away.
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:37:06am |
re: #7 MrSilverDragon
Ok, so no railroading... howzabout runwaying?
He's already accomplished at that. It should be a no brainer.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:37:15am |
OK, "Railroaded" is out.
Let's just use the traditional crosstie, tar, and feathers.
If you can't be bothered to explain your absences from your job, you should be fired.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:38:00am |
What's the problem with being railroaded? Since he's not on the Acela, by the time Amtrak shows up, he'll be out of office anyway.
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saberry0530 Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:38:14am |
What if he just went to Argentina and never came back?
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:38:16am |
Bet it's lonely in the Gubner's Mansion.
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experiencedtraveller Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:38:29am |
We got politicians in New Jersey who have been indicted by the Feds who won't resign...
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:38:44am |
Gracious lady guv'ner, we implore
Go away and sin no more
If the effort be too great
Go away at any rate
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Killgore Trout Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:39:06am |
He should just quit, get a deal with Fox and shill for Glenn Beck. He'd be a hero.
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Sharmuta Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:39:15am |
re: #9 doppelganglander
If he wants to play that way, the South Carolina legislature can just impeach him.
And they should. If the man is so concerned about the citizens of his state, he shouldn't have bailed on them for some hanky-panky.
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fizzlogic Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:39:18am |
Isn't Sanford a member of the C Street "Family"? So, in his world, he could do no wrong. He's where God wants him to be.
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Sharmuta Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:39:45am |
re: #18 Killgore Trout
He should just quit, get a deal with Fox and shill for Glenn Beck. He'd be a hero.
He needs a facebook page and twitter account.
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DaddyG Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:39:46am |
Lt. Gov. Bauer had troubles of his own
He had a Cheatin' Governor which wouldn't leave its home;
He tried and he tried to get the Gov to bail,
He sent him on a hike on the Appalacian trail.
But the Gov came back the very next day,
The Gov came back, after flying to his lover;
But the Gov came back; he just couldn't stay away.
Away, away, yea, yea, yea!
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OldLineTexan Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:39:47am |
re: #18 Killgore Trout
He should just quit, get a deal with Fox and shill for Glenn Beck. He'd be a hero.
You're right; he has so many supporters now.
/
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:40:31am |
re: #15 Cannadian Club Akbar
Bet it's lonely in the Gubner's Mansion.
Well, if he was still with his wife, it wouldn't be as lonely.
Maybe he should go to North Korea and keep Kim Jong Il company, so Kim won't be ronery either.
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realwest Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:40:58am |
OK - no railroading - how's about a plane (commercial) there gov?
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:41:48am |
re: #27 realwest
OK - no railroading - how's about a plane (commercial) there gov?
He is in a little hot water for his expensive plane habits. Boy, this guy just can't win./
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Sharmuta Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:42:16am |
Where was his commitment to South Carolinians when his staff didn't know where he was? Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining, sanford.
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Creeping Eruption Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:42:34am |
re: #29 sngnsgt
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
No, thats the job for his mistress.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:42:38am |
If this guy doesn't drink, I bet he starts.
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itellu3times Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:42:42am |
re: #14 saberry0530
What if he just went to Argentina and never came back?
Just keep on doing' that wango tango out the door and south of the border and don't look back.
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debutaunt Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:42:53am |
Most politicians do seem to have an exaggerated view of their importance.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:43:05am |
re: #19 laZardo
What, no railroads up in Appalachia?
Just coal railroads.
BTW, saw Extreme Trains on a coal train. The cars have couplers that allow the car to rotate. To empty the train, they move it so a car is in a special device that turns the entire car upside down and dumps the coal out. The rotating couplers keep it connected. Then they turn it right side up, and move the train to bring the next car in place for dumping.
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opnion Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:43:12am |
Sanford does not seem like he has a simple case of the Middle Age Crazies.
In my unprofessional opinion he is in an extended mental meldown.
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realwest Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:43:25am |
re: #30 Creeping Eruption
Yep, that's why I said Commerical plane out!
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:43:47am |
Just buy a Corvette and move on.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:43:53am |
This has gone from the sublime to the ridiculous.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:43:56am |
I frankly see no comparison here with Sarah Palin, who, despite her many faults (let's stone her!), was being nuisance-lawsuited to potential financial ruin by her political enemies.
That tactic appears to be just fine, as long as it's used against her.
So let's get the same type of high-minded Dem to sue this guy (as long as he has to defend himself out of his own pockets) and ruin him. Would that be OK?
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ladycatnip Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:44:09am |
#2 CIA Reject
What is this guy a Democrat all of a sudden?
Exactly what I was thinking when I watched the video. That strategy just isn't working for him - instead Sanford comes across as a pathetic figure rather than an outraged, indignant victim of a massive conspiracy to oust him.
Dems are masters of that tactic, republicans not.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:44:16am |
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:44:21am |
re: #7 MrSilverDragon
Ok, so no railroading... howzabout runwaying?
How about tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail?
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:45:00am |
re: #46 Mad Al-Jaffee
How about tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail?
Torches and pitchforks.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:45:02am |
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OldLineTexan Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:45:12am |
re: #37 Kosh's Shadow
Just coal railroads.
BTW, saw Extreme Trains on a coal train. The cars have couplers that allow the car to rotate. To empty the train, they move it so a car is in a special device that turns the entire car upside down and dumps the coal out. The rotating couplers keep it connected. Then they turn it right side up, and move the train to bring the next car in place for dumping.
My brother used to work at a port in Virginia ... they have that little trick to wash the cars out, too. Very cool, and BIG.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:45:18am |
re: #46 Mad Al-Jaffee
How about tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail?
Rails are gone. He can be dragged out under a bus.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:45:58am |
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:46:05am |
re: #48 Cannadian Club Akbar
The one from Fantasy Island?
"Welcome to Fantasy Island, Governor Sanford!"
/where he hooks up with rita moreno
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:46:32am |
re: #37 Kosh's Shadow
Just coal railroads.
BTW, saw Extreme Trains on a coal train. The cars have couplers that allow the car to rotate. To empty the train, they move it so a car is in a special device that turns the entire car upside down and dumps the coal out. The rotating couplers keep it connected. Then they turn it right side up, and move the train to bring the next car in place for dumping.
I bet a grizzly bear could do that.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:46:45am |
re: #52 Ward Cleaver
"Welcome to Fantasy Island, Governor Sanford!"
/where he hooks up with rita moreno
Charo!
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:47:00am |
Sanford should definitely not be railroaded out of office.
Tarring and feathering would make much better film at 11.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:47:01am |
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SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:47:22am |
Kicking and screaming. It's how all politicians are taken out of office.
No different here.
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realwest Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:47:26am |
re: #38 opnion
Sanford does not seem like he has a simple case of the Middle Age Crazies.
In my unprofessional opinion he is in an extended mental meldown.
Hey opnion! In my unprofessional opinion he's effin' certifiable! What is wrong with this "man" that he apparently believes he did nothing wrong by skipping out on his citizens, not telling anyone where he was going and just takes off like it's no big deal?!
Uh, Governor? Y'all do know it's hurricane season and the LT. Gov can't call out the National Guard should they, heaven forbid, be necessary, right? RIGHT?
POS.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:47:48am |
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Ojoe Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:47:50am |
Plenty more gals to chase after, doesn't matter if you're governor.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:47:54am |
He needs to start running a junkyard with his son.
DUMMY!!!
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OldLineTexan Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:48:03am |
re: #55 Spare O'Lake
Sanford should definitely not be railroaded out of office.
Tarring and feathering would make much better film at 11.
Of course, then we'd be in trouble with the EPA (tar) and PETA (feathers).
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:48:24am |
re: #53 Mad Al-Jaffee
I bet a grizzly bear could do that.
A bear wouldn't bother with a coal car. Now, one full of food, yes.
And there was a grain train derailment a few years ago. They buried some of the grain at the site, and it fermented. Then bears started digging it up, eating the fermented grain, and getting "drunk".
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:48:35am |
re: #57 SasquatchOnSteroids
Kicking and screaming. It's how all politicians are taken out of office.
No different here.
In a straitjacket, into the back of a '50s panel truck.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:48:55am |
re: #59 Ward Cleaver
YAY! Much more '70s than Rita Moreno!
/koochy koochy!
And that's apparently what Sanford likes best! A lil' South American koochy-koochy.
/
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Sharmuta Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:49:01am |
I can understand the personal issues. Politicians are just as human as the rest of us. My problem is abusing his office- making his staff lie for him, and abusing traveling privileges. It's not acceptable, imo, and until standards are enforced by the rest of the politicians and the electorate, we'll continue to see elected officials abuse their power and shrug at corruption. Impeach him.
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unrealizedviewpoint Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:49:34am |
Does anyone really care about this clown Sanford?
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OldLineTexan Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:49:55am |
re: #66 Sharmuta
I can understand the personal issues. Politicians are just as human as the rest of us. My problem is abusing his office- making his staff lie for him, and abusing traveling privileges. It's not acceptable, imo, and until standards are enforced by the rest of the politicians and the electorate, we'll continue to see elected officials abuse their power and shrug at corruption. Impeach him.
He was so absent, he couldn't even vote "Present."
/
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:49:59am |
Well we now know where Democrats put all that stimulus money - they built a National Time Machine and set it to 9/10/2001.
Madeline Albright calls Lockerbie bombing "a terrible accident"
I guess it was - had the bomb gone off as intended (and not accidentally prematurely) then people might have thought the thing just crashed and the US would have been off the hook for getting on Lybia's ass for terrorism.
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saberry0530 Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:50:10am |
re: #63 Kosh's Shadow
A bear wouldn't bother with a coal car. Now, one full of food, yes.
And there was a grain train derailment a few years ago. They buried some of the grain at the site, and it fermented. Then bears started digging it up, eating the fermented grain, and getting "drunk".
That's all we need, drunk pissed off 400 pound bears.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:50:21am |
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:50:22am |
re: #67 unrealizedviewpoint
Does anyone really care about this clown Sanford?
I hate most clowns. 'Cept Bozo.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:50:27am |
re: #65 OldLineTexan
And that's apparently what Sanford likes best! A lil' South American koochy-koochy.
/
Well, she's a Spaniard, but we can work around that.
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midwestgak Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:50:48am |
re: #67 unrealizedviewpoint
Does anyone really care about this clown Sanford?
His mistress does, apparently. And his wife too, if you can believe it.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:51:00am |
re: #72 Cannadian Club Akbar
I hate most clowns. 'Cept Bozo.
And Flunky, the Late Night viewer mail clown.
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victor_yugo Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:51:02am |
re: #27 realwest
OK - no railroading - how's about a plane (commercial) there gov?
Into the Potomac. Without Capt. Chesley Sullenberger.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:51:14am |
re: #58 realwest
Hey opnion! In my unprofessional opinion he's effin' certifiable! What is wrong with this "man" that he apparently believes he did nothing wrong by skipping out on his citizens, not telling anyone where he was going and just takes off like it's no big deal?!
Uh, Governor? Y'all do know it's hurricane season and the LT. Gov can't call out the National Guard should they, heaven forbid, be necessary, right? RIGHT?
POS.
Wait a minute, not so fast. We might all be a lot better off if more politicians simply didn't show up for "work".
And "absent" could be preferable to "present" on the voting records.
///
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CIA Reject Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:51:26am |
re: #67 unrealizedviewpoint
Does anyone really care about this clown Sanford?
Nobody except for the media who will use him to tar anybody with an (R) after their name who dares to oppose anything the "messiah" proposes.
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OldLineTexan Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:51:30am |
re: #73 Ward Cleaver
Well, she's a Spaniard, but we can work around that.
Dang. Can we get her an Argentine passport?
/
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shortshrift Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:51:46am |
Staying in office despite scandal seems to be a mark of courage and steadfastness in American politics. Politicians believe that the "work" they have to do is so much more important than their "mistakes". I don't know why they are so reluctant t resign. Many of those who are disgraced are given a second chance. You only have to say you're sorry.
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experiencedtraveller Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:51:50am |
re: #70 saberry0530
That's all we need, drunk pissed off 400 pound bears.
For the first hour or two they'll be happy and amicable. The next morning when they awake with a hangover they'll be pissed off...
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realwest Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:51:44am |
re: #66 Sharmuta
Yep - not to mention the inability to call out the S.C. National Guard if there was an emergency of some sort - like a hurricane.
He deserted his post when he was needed and didn't have the grace, dignity or decency to let the Lt. Govenor run the damn state until he came back.
Course, then his affair would have been "exposed" so he didn't do it.
Hey GOV. it's past time for y'all to leave office NOW.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:51:56am |
re: #75 Ward Cleaver
And Flunky, the Late Night viewer mail clown.
Opps, forgot about Krusty. He parties!!
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:52:06am |
re: #70 saberry0530
That's all we need, drunk pissed off 400 pound bears.
Herd them into the SC governor's mansion!
/hilarity ensues!
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victor_yugo Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:52:18am |
re: #73 Ward Cleaver
Well, she's a Spaniard, but we can work around that.
Is she actually castellana, or is she just hanging on to her class pedigree?
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realwest Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:52:34am |
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:53:02am |
re: #70 saberry0530
That's all we need, drunk pissed off 400 pound bears.
Quick somebody find Coach Ditka, I hear he knows how to control those.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:53:51am |
re: #80 OldLineTexan
Dang. Can we get her an Argentine passport?
/
Sure, no problem.re: #86 victor_yugo
Is she actually castellana, or is she just hanging on to her class pedigree?
I'll never forget seeing her on Jerry Lewis's MD telethon, when she bounced up and down so much that the top part of her nips were showing. Whoops!
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saberry0530 Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:53:54am |
re: #85 Ward Cleaver
Herd them into the SC governor's mansion!
/hilarity ensues!
UPding for the Mental PIcture!
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Sharmuta Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:54:03am |
re: #83 realwest
I think dereliction of duty is impeachable.
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saberry0530 Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:54:33am |
re: #88 CyanSnowHawk
Quick somebody find Coach Ditka, I hear he knows how to control those.
As long as he doesn't let them do another rap video!
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:55:25am |
re: #91 saberry0530
UPding for the Mental PIcture!
Kinda like when the grizzly tears through Robert Redford's cabin in the movie Jeremiah Johnson. Ol' Will Geer got a laugh out of that.
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saberry0530 Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:56:04am |
re: #94 Ward Cleaver
Kinda like when the grizzly tears through Robert Redford's cabin in the movie Jeremiah Johnson. Ol' Will Geer got a laugh out of that.
YES HE DID! He had an awesome laugh...
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realwest Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:56:36am |
re: #92 Sharmuta
I think dereliction of duty is impeachable.
Absolutely. Folks out here like to joke about him - and understandably so - but he was indeed in dereliction of his duty as governor.
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karmic_inquisitor Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:56:47am |
If Republicans really wanted to save this country (and the world economy for that matter) from a bunch of ignorant leftist ideologues then it might try to dump its own ideologues.
You know - the ones who want to tell you how to live a moral life and then go about not doing it themselves. Dump the social conservative agenda (which still dominates all strategies about motivating the "base"). Dump the nutjob creationism (and exorcisms).
Embrace security, liberty and fiscal conservatism. Less government. More freedom. Let Americans create wealth and the world will be richer and freer.
The "R" after the names should be promoted as "Rational" rather than "Religious".
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cliffster Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:57:36am |
You can listen to the whole thing and all he really says is, "I'm going to stay because I really want to."
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:58:21am |
re: #96 saberry0530
YES HE DID! He had an awesome laugh...
He (Bear Claw) herded the damn thing through there, as a joke, IIRC. Funny as hell, all the crashing sounds and bear noises. Great movie, and the lovely Delle Boulton as Redford's indian bride.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:58:27am |
re: #99 cliffster
You can listen to the whole thing and all he really says is, "I'm going to stay because I really want to."
You forgot the 'neener, neener, neener," at the end.
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Son of the Black Dog Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:58:30am |
re: #88 CyanSnowHawk
Quick somebody find Coach Ditka, I hear he knows how to control those.
Uh, actually I think that describes him.
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Spare O'Lake Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:58:35am |
re: #97 realwest
Absolutely. Folks out here like to joke about him - and understandably so - but he was indeed in dereliction of his duty as governor.
Did anything bad happen while he was away that wouldn't have been even worse if he was there?
/
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midwestgak Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:58:39am |
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Danny Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:59:06am |
Even if they throw Sanford out, his probable replacement doesn't look all that much better.
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_RememberTonyC Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:59:13am |
he's really rather pathetic. he probably thinks he looks tough by hanging in there, but he does not.
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saberry0530 Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:59:13am |
re: #99 cliffster
You can listen to the whole thing and all he really says is, "I'm going to stay because I really want to."
More like "I have no personal ethics or moral compass, so fuck you and the entire electorate."
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Aug 27, 2009 9:59:37am |
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CIA Reject Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:00:06am |
re: #107 saberry0530
More like "I have no personal ethics or moral compass, or job prospects anywhere else so fuck you and the entire electorate."
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Last Mohican Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:00:35am |
Okay, new Democratic strategy on Health Care:
If you have any questions about or criticism of the new health care bills, you not only
(1) are opposed to all reform of any kind,
(2) are a racist, and
(3) hate poor people and think they should die in the streets,
but also now you
(4) are insulting the memory of the recently departed.
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DaddyG Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:00:49am |
re: #70 saberry0530
That's all we need, drunk pissed off 400 pound bears.
When did we start discussing the effect of the stimulus on the markets? /
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:01:11am |
re: #105 Danny
Even if they throw Sanford out, his probable replacement doesn't look all that much better.
That's nothin'. Legendary former TX Lt. Gov. Bob Bullock (RIP) got pulled over doing 105 in a BMW, driving through Georgetown, outside of Austin.
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realwest Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:02:58am |
re: #98 karmic_inquisitor
Well the Dems seem to be doing a good job for the GOP on the fiscal end of things: Obama's $9 Trillion dollar increase in the debt, let alone his projected BUDGETED 1.8 Trillion dollar deficit for this year's budget (which, as someone pointed out yesterday out here is greater than Bush ran up in four years) has some folks (see my spin off link) wanting a government that provides LESS service and Taxes 'em less as well!
It is interesting to go to the link and read about it - Independents feel almost as strongly about this as do Republicans!
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:03:20am |
re: #111 Last Mohican
Okay, new Democratic strategy on Health Care:
If you have any questions about or criticism of the new health care bills, you not only
(1) are opposed to all reform of any kind,
(2) are a racist, and
(3) hate poor people and think they should die in the streets,but also now you
(4) are insulting the memory of the recently departed.
Especially since if Kennedy had the care we'll get under the healthcare takeover, he would have died months ago.
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jcm Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:03:44am |
re: #109 CIA Reject
How do you get an disgraced ex governor off you front steps?
Pay him for the pizza!
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_RememberTonyC Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:03:56am |
all I need to know about this tool is that he chose Father's Day weekend to go see his "soulmate" down in argentina. what a guy!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:04:18am |
My sons are having a wedgie war. I'm perfectly willing to send them to South Carolina to see the guv'ner.
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:04:19am |
re: #117 realwest
Well the Dems seem to be doing a good job for the GOP on the fiscal end of things: Obama's $9 Trillion dollar increase in the debt, let alone his projected BUDGETED 1.8 Trillion dollar deficit for this year's budget (which, as someone pointed out yesterday out here is greater than Bush ran up in four years) has some folks (see my spin off link) wanting a government that provides LESS service and Taxes 'em less as well!
It is interesting to go to the link and read about it - Independents feel almost as strongly about this as do Republicans!
Now, if we'd just get Republican candidates who were strong on fiscal discipline instead of social conservativism, they might win.
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CIA Reject Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:04:59am |
re: #116 Ward Cleaver
"I just want my senorita! WAAAH!"
You know some day, if he hasn't done it already, Sanford is going to come to the realization that his entire personal life and political career could have been saved by a cold shower.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:05:41am |
re: #105 Danny
Even if they throw Sanford out, his probable replacement doesn't look all that much better.
Every cop knows that you don't mess with elected officials that can cause trouble for the Department, and a Lt. Gov. can cause a lot of trouble.
I was on a ride along with a Sheriff's Deputy friend of mine in San Diego one night and we pulled over an LA City councilmember doing about 95 on I-5 at 2AM. She got off with a warning, but my friend mentioned that giving a ticket was not worth the pissing match with LA that it would start.
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shiplord kirel Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:06:03am |
Sanford says he won’t be “railroaded” out of office
Ok, how about just the rail, along with some tar and feathers?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:06:06am |
What Sanford said (what did he say?)
"I want to, because if I do, when I was done, by the way, did you see, when I didn't do, only 16 months, but then again, I can't say, on the railroad... sure!"
That wasn't stream of conscience, that was stream of stupid.
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Flyovercountry Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:06:20am |
I've seen this syndrome before in politicians. I call it the, "I think I'm bulletproof," syndrome. the problem is that Sanford has a team of paid yesmen on his staff. They are advising him. They know that their paychecks stop with Sanford's recognition of his political demise. They are telling him that this will all blow over. Spitzer finally got it, Sanford doesn't seem to be that bright. This is the creationist side creeping in. Eventually, the GOP will send an arm twister down to spain things to Sanford. He will be a memory by the 2010 elections.
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realwest Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:06:45am |
re: #105 Danny
Yeah, but none of 'em were for driving under the influence of anything and as he said in the last paragraph of your link:
"Bauer plans to run for re-election. His challenger is Mike Campbell. Bauer predicts his speeding will be the biggest issue, 'The voters will learn more about a bad driving habit in the next 12 hours than they will about everything I've done in the past 10 years being a public servant."
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:07:19am |
re: #12 OldLineTexan
OK, "Railroaded" is out.
Let's just use the traditional crosstie, tar, and feathers.
If you can't be bothered to explain your absences from your job, you should be fired.
The problem is that he can't seem to stop explaining them.
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realwest Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:07:51am |
re: #126 Walter L. Newton
"That wasn't stream of conscience, that was stream of stupid."
And in his case the difference is...?
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SasquatchOnSteroids Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:08:40am |
Of course he wants to stay. All the percs provided by us, it's one helluva gig.
The downside being you're answerable to the people who provide all of those percs, doubly so if you have an R beside your name.
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SFGoth Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:08:56am |
Giving new meaning to the phrase "Grand Old Party".
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:08:58am |
re: #127 Flyovercountry
I've seen this syndrome before in politicians. I call it the, "I think I'm bulletproof," syndrome. the problem is that Sanford has a team of paid yesmen on his staff. They are advising him. They know that their paychecks stop with Sanford's recognition of his political demise. They are telling him that this will all blow over. Spitzer finally got it, Sanford doesn't seem to be that bright. This is the creationist side creeping in. Eventually, the GOP will send an arm twister down to spain things to Sanford. He will be a memory by the 2010 elections.
Even the guy whispering "remember, thou art mortal," has a vested interest in keeping him in his job.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:09:31am |
re: #132 SFGoth
Giving new meaning to the phrase "Grand Old Party".
Enough with the McCain old jokes already.
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:09:44am |
re: #44 ladycatnip
#2 CIA Reject
Exactly what I was thinking when I watched the video. That strategy just isn't working for him - instead Sanford comes across as a pathetic figure rather than an outraged, indignant victim of a massive conspiracy to oust him.Dems are masters of that tactic, republicans not.
Well, Sanford appears to be trying to learn the art.
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realwest Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:10:12am |
re: #119 jcm
How do you get an disgraced ex governor off you front steps?
Pay him for the pizza!
Unless it's in Illinois where 4 of the last 5 govenors are now busy making license plates!
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EaterOfFood Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:10:26am |
re: #118 Kosh's Shadow
Especially since if Kennedy had the care we'll get under the healthcare takeover, he would have died months ago.
Or he could have gone to the UK and paid for the private option that is still allowed there and is superior to the NHS.
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Rancher Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:11:35am |
Why not impeach? What are the politics preventing that, or does he have to break some law like Blogo did?
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jcm Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:11:44am |
re: #136 realwest
Unless it's in Illinois where 4 of the last 5 govenors are now busy making license plates!
LOL! Now that's something to be proud of!
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cliffster Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:12:44am |
re: #138 Rancher
Why not impeach? What are the politics preventing that, or does he have to break some law like Blogo did?
You can always come up with some sort of high crime or misdemeanor if you really want to.
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badger1970 Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:12:56am |
re: #119 jcm
Old joke, different professions. In this case, put a dinosaur and a copy of "On the Origin of Species" on his doorstep.
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realwest Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:13:41am |
re: #139 jcm
LOL! Now that's something to be proud of!
Yep, in fact the Illinois Tourism Board is mulling over the idea of attracting folks to move there by saying:
"Your license plate will be personally made by one of our former govenors!"
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Danny Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:13:53am |
re: #138 Rancher
They will have to find something in the ethics investigation. But that's probably just as politicized as everything else.
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wrenchwench Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:14:35am |
re: #138 Rancher
Why not impeach? What are the politics preventing that, or does he have to break some law like Blogo did?
Sounds like they're trying to set things up for impeachment. The Lt. Gov. says he won't run for the seat if he gets it by Sanford leaving, which makes others more willing to give him the boot.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:14:39am |
Heh. Well, at least this governor's not a quitter. Nudge, wink.
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Last Mohican Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:15:25am |
re: #111 Last Mohican
Speaking of health care, don't forget that Michelle Bachmann is holding a "town hall" meeting on health care this afternoon. I can't wait to see the video clips. My belief that most human beings are rational beings has started to resurrect itself lately. So it's about time for it to get pummeled into nonexistence again.
And by the way, what's with the story from the local Minnesota Fox News affiliate that I linked to? It's just a quick announcement of Bachmann's town hall meeting. And yet more than half of it is a random, un-introduced, non-sequitur litany of Obama's talking points. Doesn't it seem a little weird that Fox 9 has hired as its content writer some addled moonbat who's incapable of even mentioning Michelle Bachmann's name, without a spasmodic eruption of leftyspeak?
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Rancher Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:15:55am |
re: #137 EaterOfFood
Or he could have gone to the UK and paid for the private option that is still allowed there and is superior to the NHS.
I didn't know there was such a place besides us. Will we have a private option or will we be like Canada? Oops, didn't mean to criticize the President, forget I said anything.
So we are to have a French health-care system without a French tradition of political protest. It is odd that American liberalism, in a veritable state of insurrection during the Bush presidency, now seeks political quiescence. These "townhallers" who have come forth to challenge ObamaCare have been labeled "evil-mongers" (Harry Reid), "un-American" (Nancy Pelosi), agitators and rowdies and worse.
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Ojoe Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:16:04am |
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Kosh's Shadow Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:16:44am |
This just in. Sanford is going to sue Castroil, because their ads told him to "think with his dipstick."
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realwest Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:16:53am |
re: #147 Last Mohican
Probably only because MSNBC wasn't hiring anymore!
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Last Mohican Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:17:06am |
Hey, I have a question. Is there some way that I could use this Mark Sanford topic to randomly express my intense hatred of Sarah Palin? I like to work that in at least once for every thread.
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MrSilverDragon Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:18:02am |
re: #152 Last Mohican
Hey, I have a question. Is there some way that I could use this Mark Sanford topic to randomly express my intense hatred of Sarah Palin? I like to work that in at least once for every thread.
I think you just did.
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realwest Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:18:26am |
re: #152 Last Mohican
Hey, I have a question. Is there some way that I could use this Mark Sanford topic to randomly express my intense hatred of Sarah Palin? I like to work that in at least once for every thread.
Nah, that way Last Mohican, everyone out here would think you're a loon!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:18:48am |
re: #152 Last Mohican
Hey, I have a question. Is there some way that I could use this Mark Sanford topic to randomly express my intense hatred of Sarah Palin? I like to work that in at least once for every thread.
Well, if it were AGW, I could find a way...
///
Really I am making fun of myself a little. But not too much... I might actually do it!
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Tricky Dick Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:18:55am |
Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer is a an asshole. When I lived in South Carolina a few years ago there was a news story Your text to link...about him getting pulled over for doing over 100 miles an hour on a highway on several occasions and get out of the tickets because of his license plates.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:19:06am |
re: #152 Last Mohican
Hey, I have a question. Is there some way that I could use this Mark Sanford topic to randomly express my intense hatred of Sarah Palin? I like to work that in at least once for every thread.
Let Cato show you the way. He's like our very own Sun Tzu for Sarah Palin derangement.
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SFGoth Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:19:17am |
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Ojoe Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:19:53am |
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Last Mohican Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:19:54am |
re: #145 wrenchwench
Sounds like they're trying to set things up for impeachment. The Lt. Gov. says he won't run for the seat if he gets it by Sanford leaving, which makes others more willing to give him the boot.
IIRC, by definition, impeachment is a process by which a legislative body removes a government official from office because of criminal misconduct. So if Sanford didn't commit a criminal offense, he couldn't be impeached.
Maybe a recall would be the thing.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:20:09am |
Sanford is a great writer.
I could digress and say that you have the ability to give magnificently gentle kisses, or that I love your tan lines or that I love the curves of your hips, the erotic beauty of you holding yourself (or two magnificent parts of yourself) in the faded glow of night’s light — but hey, that would be going into the sexual details we spoke of at the steakhouse at dinner — and unlike you I would never do that!
Mooph.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:20:09am |
re: #155 LudwigVanQuixote
Well, if it were AGW, I could find a way...
///
Really I am making fun of myself a little. But not too much... I might actually do it!
LOL... not!
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Danny Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:21:03am |
re: #152 Last Mohican
Hey, I have a question. Is there some way that I could use this Mark Sanford topic to randomly express my intense hatred of Sarah Palin? I like to work that in at least once for every thread.
You'll have stiff competition from Cato and Spacejesus.
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SFGoth Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:21:14am |
re: #156 Tricky Dick
Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer is a an asshole. When I lived in South Carolina a few years ago there was a news story Your text to link...about him getting pulled over for doing over 100 miles an hour on a highway on several occasions and get out of the tickets because of his license plates.
Sounds like all that god-fearing piety hasn't gotten them much.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:22:34am |
re: #156 Tricky Dick
Lt. Gov. Andre Bauer is a an asshole. When I lived in South Carolina a few years ago there was a news story Your text to link...about him getting pulled over for doing over 100 miles an hour on a highway on several occasions and get out of the tickets because of his license plates.
When I'm in South Carolina I always go at least that fast...until I'm the hell out of South Carolina.
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realwest Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:22:36am |
re: #157 CyanSnowHawk
Now why would you want to disparage Sun Tzu like that?
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SFGoth Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:23:04am |
BTW: [Link: www.sfgate.com...]
Franklin Circuit Judge Thomas Wingate said in Wednesday's decision that references to a dependence on "Almighty God" in the law that created the Kentucky Office of Homeland Security is akin to establishing a religion, which the government is prohibited from doing in the U.S. and Kentucky constitutions.
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livefreeor die Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:23:39am |
re: #161 Cato the Elder
Sanford is a great writer.
I could digress and say that you have the ability to give magnificently gentle kisses, or that I love your tan lines or that I love the curves of your hips, the erotic beauty of you holding yourself (or two magnificent parts of yourself) in the faded glow of night’s light — but hey, that would be going into the sexual details we spoke of at the steakhouse at dinner — and unlike you I would never do that!Mooph.
What is it with politicians and their inability to learn:
If you are having an affair, spying on your enemies, taking bribes, etc., DON'T WRITE IT DOWN OR TAPE IT!!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:23:55am |
Seriously, this is one of those ones where I don't understand the politicians or the people.
If he had just had an affair and did a mea culpa, I think this would have likely gone away. But having an affair while AWOL - and having allegations of it being on the government dime... I just don't get it.
People push the self destruct button for many reasons, but if he were truly doing that, why not resign?
It just makes no sense.
I suppose that Charles' assertion that Sanford honestly believes that he is subject to different rules. It's a good thing that megalomania like this got caught before he reached any higher office.
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:23:56am |
re: #158 SFGoth
Grand "Old" Party. I used that joke effectively on occasion during the campaign and afterward for a while.
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jcm Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:24:07am |
OT...
The Lockerbie Bomber Oil connection gains strength...
MSPs cast doubt on Lockerbie bomber’s medical papers
LABOUR and Tory MSPs have questioned whether freed Lockerbie bomber Abdelbaset al Megrahi has three months or less to live.They have turned their focus to medical papers released by the Scottish Government.
The medical papers said specialists believed Lockerbie bomber Megrahi might only survive months, but did not say whether it would be more or less than three months.
The report said another medical expert who had seen Megrahi considered his condition declined “significantly” in the week to August 3.
But Labour MSP Dr Richard Simpson, who specialised in prostate disease research, said Lockerbie bomber Megrahi may live for “far longer” than three months.
Dr Simpson said: “Kenny MacAskill released him apparently on the advice of just one doctor whose status is not clear and who is not named.”
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Dianna Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:25:13am |
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Cato the Elder Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:25:19am |
re: #169 livefreeor die
What is it with politicians and their inability to learn:
If you are having an affair, spying on your enemies, taking bribes, etc., DON'T WRITE IT DOWN OR TAPE IT!!
Or at least not if it's pathetic twaddle like his. "Two magnificent parts of yourself" indeed!
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CyanSnowHawk Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:25:33am |
re: #167 realwest
Now why would you want to disparage Sun Tzu like that?
Because he's dead and can't smack me around if he reads it.
/
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lawhawk Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:25:44am |
Sanford should resign not because of the philandering, but because he used government money and did so when he should have been attending to state business.
He's got to go, and the state GOP should do what it can to make that happen.
Of course, it's not like the Democrats don't have similar issues. They've turned the DC swamp into a swimming pool of corruption, led by none other than Charlie Rangel (D-NY), whose tax cheating ways now includes stiffing NJ out of property taxes for years and underreporting hundreds of thousands in income. Oh, and he's the guy who sets tax policy in the US heading Ways and Means.
He just has a different way of figuring tax policy for everyone else as compared to himself.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:25:57am |
re: #172 jcm
OT...
The Lockerbie Bomber Oil connection gains strength...
Repugnant.
Gotta love the "real politic" of the Euros.
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DaddyG Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:26:32am |
re: #155 LudwigVanQuixote
Well, if it were AGW, I could find a way...
///
Really I am making fun of myself a little. But not too much... I might actually do it!
Too easy. Politician = hot air jokes. :-)
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Wendya Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:26:55am |
re: #16 experiencedtraveller
We got politicians in New Jersey who have been indicted by the Feds who won't resign...
Our lovely Governor, Bill Richardson, who has been under investigation by the feds for over a year got a lovely gift from Obama today. The Justice Department has decided not to pursue any charges. Wow.. what a surprise!
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livefreeor die Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:26:59am |
re: #175 Cato the Elder
Or at least not if it's pathetic twaddle like his. "Two magnificent parts of yourself" indeed!
It's like he got Danielle Steele to write his lines.
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wrenchwench Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:27:29am |
re: #160 Last Mohican
IIRC, by definition, impeachment is a process by which a legislative body removes a government official from office because of criminal misconduct. So if Sanford didn't commit a criminal offense, he couldn't be impeached.
Maybe a recall would be the thing.
From the article:
“Bauer is a runoff winner. I know,” said state Sen. David Thomas, R-Greenville, who ran for lieutenant governor in 2002, losing to Bauer in a runoff. “They don’t want him to have a leg up.”Thomas predicted Bauer’s offer will force House lawmakers to move.
Bauer’s offer also gives him time to achieve some goals as governor and reappear politically later.
“(Bauer) is 40. He comes back at 44, 48 and takes a shot at whatever (office) interests him,” said Thomas, who chairs a Senate subcommittee investigating whether Sanford broke state regulations, including using state aircraft for political reasons and failing to report private plane rides from friends.
Would that be criminal misconduct?
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DaddyG Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:29:33am |
re: #180 Wendya
Our lovely Governor, Bill Richardson, who has been under investigation by the feds for over a year got a lovely gift from Obama today. The Justice Department has decided not to pursue any charges. Wow.. what a surprise!
They are too busy investigating the CIA and retired Bush administration officials. *spit*
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jcm Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:29:48am |
re: #170 LudwigVanQuixote
Seriously, this is one of those ones where I don't understand the politicians or the people.
If he had just had an affair and did a mea culpa, I think this would have likely gone away. But having an affair while AWOL - and having allegations of it being on the government dime... I just don't get it.
People push the self destruct button for many reasons, but if he were truly doing that, why not resign?
It just makes no sense.
I suppose that Charles' assertion that Sanford honestly believes that he is subject to different rules. It's a good thing that megalomania like this got caught before he reached any higher office.
I don't see why (echoing Sharm up thread) the legislature doesn't toss his ass for dereliction of duty. He was AWOL, unreachable and did not hand over signature authority during his absence.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:29:50am |
re: #177 lawhawk
Sanford should resign not because of the philandering, but because he used government money and did so when he should have been attending to state business.
He's got to go, and the state GOP should do what it can to make that happen.
Of course, it's not like the Democrats don't have similar issues. They've turned the DC swamp into a swimming pool of corruption, led by none other than Charlie Rangel (D-NY), whose tax cheating ways now includes stiffing NJ out of property taxes for years and underreporting hundreds of thousands in income. Oh, and he's the guy who sets tax policy in the US heading Ways and Means.
He just has a different way of figuring tax policy for everyone else as compared to himself.
You get no argument from me about ousting corrupt Dems. However, since they (the Dems) don't make it a point to present themselves as people of great religious conviction at every opportunity, the philandering is a special whammy for the GOP.
In fact it is a double whammy.
The average American does not give a damn about the intricacies of policy. They do however get the notion of a hypocrite with his johnson someplace it shouldn't be.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:30:28am |
re: #179 DaddyG
Too easy. Politician = hot air jokes. :-)
Well that's why I have refrained... It is too easy.
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shortshrift Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:31:10am |
re: #175 Cato the Elder
Or at least not if it's pathetic twaddle like his. "Two magnificent parts of yourself" indeed!
Why should the "faded glow of night's light" shine only on her feet? Why should she be holding them in the faded glow?
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Cato the Elder Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:31:37am |
re: #183 DaddyG
They are too busy investigating the CIA and retired Bush administration officials. *spit*
Of course the CIA is sacred. How dare they!
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Last Mohican Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:32:17am |
re: #157 CyanSnowHawk
Let Cato show you the way. He's like our very own Sun Tzu for Sarah Palin derangement.
Ah, yes, I see.
re: #146 Cato the Elder
Heh. Well, at least this governor's not a quitter. Nudge, wink.
A fool may hold his eyes open, but it is only the wise man who truly sees that in each fleeting moment of light between dusk and dawn, there is an invaluable, yet ephemeral opportunity to paint the earth with one's hatred of Sarah Palin.
--Cato Szu
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lawhawk Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:34:04am |
re: #185 LudwigVanQuixote
You get no argument from me about ousting corrupt Dems. However, since they (the Dems) don't make it a point to present themselves as people of great religious conviction at every opportunity, the philandering is a special whammy for the GOP.
In fact it is a double whammy.
The average American does not give a damn about the intricacies of policy. They do however get the notion of a hypocrite with his johnson someplace it shouldn't be.
Hypocrisy? You want hypocrisy? Rangel is in charge of the committee that sets tax policy for the nation. He is responsible for writing the tax code, and yet he's a tax cheat and has engaged in rampant tax evasion for years on end.
If it were anyone else, he'd be suffering the pains of IRS audit after audit. In fact, criminal charges might be called upon given that he's purposefully engaged in underreporting his tax obligations. It was wilful failure.
That's hypocrisy with a bow on top.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:34:52am |
re: #184 jcm
I don't see why (echoing Sharm up thread) the legislature doesn't toss his ass for dereliction of duty. He was AWOL, unreachable and did not hand over signature authority during his absence.
I know. That is impeachable. The legal standard - under many opinions includes just not showing up for work.
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LGoPs Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:35:07am |
re: #185 LudwigVanQuixote
You get no argument from me about ousting corrupt Dems. However, since they (the Dems) don't make it a point to present themselves as people of great religious conviction at every opportunity, the philandering is a special whammy for the GOP.
In fact it is a double whammy.The average American does not give a damn about the intricacies of policy. They do however get the notion of a hypocrite with his johnson someplace it shouldn't be.
And the Democrats present themselves as the champions of paying our fair share in taxes. Why does Rangel get a pass, particularly with the position he holds?
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Cato the Elder Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:36:12am |
re: #189 Last Mohican
A backsassy old satyr named [Cato's real name]
Used to rip sacred cows till they bled.
He at last met his match
When the frum Bandersnatch
And the Jabberwock bashed in his head.
Please note that I never raised the name of any person in particular on this thread. You did it for me, big guy. LOL
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:36:32am |
Okay, here's my thought-about-it-for-a-bit thoughts:
I think he really feels guilty for what he did. He still doesn't want to have to give anything up because of it, though. Yet, he still feels that guilt, and it's telling him he should suffer.
That's why we're getting the weird, conflicting, nonsensical statements. He's got two irreconcilable ideas in his head, and they're having a turf war. (I'll bet he's also got a turf war going on in there about Jenny vs. Hot Mama in Argentina.)
Certain Democrats don't have this problem. They only have the part about getting off without consequences.
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Ojoe Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:36:37am |
re: #168 SFGoth
It is not a religion being established if it does not have inexplicable dietary rules.
QED
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Last Mohican Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:36:42am |
re: #172 jcm
OT...
The Lockerbie Bomber Oil connection gains strength...
I saw the man at his victory celebration in Libya. He really did not look a man who's about to die from prostate cancer. Not by a longshot.
But this doesn't necessarily strengthen the oil conspiracy theory. There's also, for example, the theory that he was released because he was about to begin his appeal hearing, which would have brought to light major, embarrassing flaws in the case that was originally presented against him.
There's also Alex Jones' theory that the CIA and Mossad actually shot down Pan Am Flight 103, in order to cover up their illegal heroin ring that they used to finance the 9/11 attacks.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:38:28am |
re: #172 jcm
OT...
The Lockerbie Bomber Oil connection gains strength...
I thought he looked too spry coming off of that plane. Dying, my ass.
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Ward Cleaver Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:39:36am |
re: #181 livefreeor die
It's like he got Danielle Steele to write his lines.
Harlequin Books could release a Gov. Sanford series. Hey, they've already got NA$CAR books!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:40:00am |
re: #190 lawhawk
Hypocrisy? You want hypocrisy? Rangel is in charge of the committee that sets tax policy for the nation. He is responsible for writing the tax code, and yet he's a tax cheat and has engaged in rampant tax evasion for years on end.
If it were anyone else, he'd be suffering the pains of IRS audit after audit. In fact, criminal charges might be called upon given that he's purposefully engaged in underreporting his tax obligations. It was wilful failure.
That's hypocrisy with a bow on top.
Peace! I have no desire to see Rangel get off the hook.
I am saying though that this is the kind of thing which does not seel papers and make newscasts the way an awol politician having an affair would - particularly one who likes to preach his Christianity.
The average American does not care about "everyday" corruption when he can fixate on a "preacher put his privates somewhere story." My point is that Republicans should be very aware of this by now, and yet we have a seemingly endless stream of Republicans whose careers are built on public Christianity, and yet can't seem to police their peckers.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:40:11am |
re: #194 EmmmieG
Okay, here's my thought-about-it-for-a-bit thoughts:
I think he really feels guilty for what he did. He still doesn't want to have to give anything up because of it, though. Yet, he still feels that guilt, and it's telling him he should suffer.
That's why we're getting the weird, conflicting, nonsensical statements. He's got two irreconcilable ideas in his head, and they're having a turf war. (I'll bet he's also got a turf war going on in there about Jenny vs. Hot Mama in Argentina.)
Certain Democrats don't have this problem. They only have the part about getting off without consequences.
I'd much rather have naked arrogance of power (metaphorically speaking, of course - I don't wanna see Sanford sans shorts) than phony piety.
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Knitwit Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:40:21am |
It says a lot (or a little) about Sanford that even in the South, people aren't impressed by his references to the Scriptures.
And I speak as a North Carolinian.
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Ojoe Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:40:58am |
This used to be done with more class.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:41:31am |
re: #192 LGoPs
And the Democrats present themselves as the champions of paying our fair share in taxes. Why does Rangel get a pass, particularly with the position he holds?
Peace! I am not defending anyone's corruption. I am making the simple point, that you as a lizard read more and think more about this stuff than the typical American. Money and financial stuff is abstract. Peckers are something everyone can cluck and make noise about.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:42:55am |
re: #200 Cato the Elder
I'd much rather have naked arrogance of power (metaphorically speaking, of course - I don't wanna see Sanford sans shorts) than phony piety.
Phony piety is arrogance of power.
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JarHeadLifer Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:43:34am |
This guy is such an embarrassment, not just to Republicans, but to men human beings every where.
He, and his juvenile and pining love speeches, should find gainful employment elsewhere and let someone else who's not obsessively love sick tend to the matters of governing the state of South Carolina.
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DaddyG Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:44:26am |
re: #193 Cato the Elder
A backsassy old satyr named [Cato's real name]
Used to rip sacred cows till they bled.
He at last met his match
When the frum Bandersnatch
And the Jabberwock bashed in his head.Please note that I never raised the name of any person in particular on this thread. You did it for me, big guy. LOL
[Fred] ?
[Achmed]?
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shortshrift Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:45:57am |
re: #205 JarHeadLifer
This guy is such an embarrassment, not just to Republicans, but to
menhuman beings every where.He, and his juvenile and pining love speeches, should find gainful employment elsewhere and let someone else who's not obsessively love sick tend to the matters of governing the state of South Carolina.
They should legalize bigamy, or concubinage.
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wrenchwench Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:48:37am |
Dear Mr. Beaumont,
I encountered a malfunction in the Spinoff Links. When I'm looking at a link not in the list, but on its own page (accessed through the Spy, or by clicking on the comments for that link) the ratings don't work. The + and - buttons do nothing, and clicking on the rating number takes you to the front page. Ratings work fine when looking at a list of links.
Thanks for your time!
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Cato the Elder Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:49:47am |
If you sit by the river long enough, your enemies' bodies will float by on the stream.
sic tandem gubernatoribus Caroliniensis austri et Alaskae
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:52:30am |
re: #148 Rancher
Seems we may not have a public option, so the demise of the American private option seems awful premature.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:53:36am |
re: #210 buzzsawmonkey
I was unaware that there were any Bandersnatch converts to Orthodox Judaism.
Heh. In LC's poem the Bandersnatch is called "frumious". I thought "frum" went well with the sacred cows meme.
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gonecamping Thu, Aug 27, 2009 10:54:14am |
I saw an ad for a new tv series about a politician who cheats on his wife and immediately thought of this clown.
I wonder if Sanford will get royalties?
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Silvergirl Thu, Aug 27, 2009 11:19:47am |
re: #213 gonecamping
I saw an ad for a new tv series about a politician who cheats on his wife and immediately thought of this clown.
I wonder if Sanford will get royalties?
Why a series about cheater politicians on tv? We have a whole series of serial cheaters in real life.
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gonecamping Thu, Aug 27, 2009 11:25:32am |
No idea what slant/angle the show will be and have no intention of watching it, but it would be typical of hollywood to come up with a show to try and mainstream or minimize unacceptable behavior.
re: #214 Silvergirl
Why a series about cheater politicians on tv? We have a whole series of serial cheaters in real life.
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Spartacus50 Thu, Aug 27, 2009 12:35:16pm |
Mark Sanford may not be an admirable person, but he has demonstrated himself to be a student of history. He is simply following the Clinton Template. He knows that all he has to do is ride out the bad publicity; the legislature is powerless to remove him.
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Cato the Elder Thu, Aug 27, 2009 12:39:09pm |
Sanford should not be asking whether to bail. He should be asking how much his bail is.
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Ayeless in Ghazi Thu, Aug 27, 2009 12:59:22pm |
re: #18 Killgore Trout
He should just quit, get a deal with Fox and shill for Glenn Beck. He'd be a hero.
Don't forget the facebook account and twitter service. That's how real politics is done these days, apparently.
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theheat Thu, Aug 27, 2009 1:12:58pm |
This guy is an embarrassment to politics, whether a Dem or a Republican. His complete lack of class is only surpassed by his will for survival. Bluntly, this guy would fuck a snake to keep his ass in the driver's seat.
He needs to have his sorry ass run out on rails, his bags thrown out the door after him, and be shunned 3000% by the entire Republican body. The GOP doesn't NEED sneaky, lying, irresponsible, philandering assholes like him. No one does.
His last known whereabouts should be a well-attended pity party with every other lying, sneaky, philandering, irresponsible, can't keep his pants zipped POS, but certainly not in the governor's mansion.
If I were queen, I'd say off with his head.
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kawfytawk Thu, Aug 27, 2009 1:26:59pm |
This type of BS is exactly why so many people are sick and tired of the "government", it is made up of people who think there are absolutely no consequences for their actions. Consequences are only for the "little people" the peasants, the chattering class. It is time to rid ourselves of the whole lot of them. Give em the boot. Career politicians need to be a thing of the past. I just wish I didn't have to wait until 2010 to begin the purge.
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Right Brain Thu, Aug 27, 2009 2:29:53pm |
Governors Sanford and Spitzer should go start a "could've had it all but traded it for some trim club."
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Perplexed Thu, Aug 27, 2009 3:50:59pm |
Why should he leave office? Wasn't there a senator whose girlfriend drowned in a car accident? Wasn't he supposedly involved with heavy drinking when it happened? Wasn't another government goon given grief for his boyfriend running a male prostitution ring from the first floor of their residence?
At least this governor's girlfriend is still alive. Why should a conservative be forced from office for doing something a liberal has no problems in doing? Do we have one set of standards for conservatives and another set for liberals? Are there no standards of behavior and morality on the part of government officials? Either the standards apply equally across the board or we drop them for everyone.
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Dad O' Blondes Fri, Aug 28, 2009 5:09:04am |
You have a particular grace and calm that I adore. You have a level of sophistication that so fitting with your beauty. I could digress and say that you have the ability to give magnificent gentle kisses, or that I love your tan lines or that I love the curve of your hips, the erotic beauty of you holding yourself (or two magnificent parts of yourself) in the faded glow of the night's light - but hey, that would be going into sexual details
Any fool who writes the above in E-MAIL should just go away and hide for a few years.
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