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You’re a historian. Tell me if there are any bath-tubs in history. I think they’ve been frightfully neglected.

F. Scott Fitzgerald, Tales of the Jazz Age

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1 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:21:38pm

Why am I getting a mental image of Cleopatra soaking in an opulent marble bathtub all of a sudden?

2 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:21:46pm

The Muppets do The Beatles

/no, not like that

3 Opilio  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:24:34pm

Google “honors” Michael Jackson’s birthday with a commemorative logo, but ignored Abraham Lincoln’s 200th birthday back in February? What a bunch of tools.

4 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:25:50pm

re: #1 Fenway_Nation

Have you no shame? Watching pr0n while logged onto LGF is strictly forbidden.
/without sharing the link…

5 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:27:01pm

re: #1 Fenway_Nation

Why am I getting a mental image of Cleopatra soaking in an opulent marble bathtub all of a sudden?

King Herod owned such a tub. He had a skin disease, and long soaks helped relieve the pain.

6 iceweasel  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:27:11pm

re: #2 Slumbering Behemoth

The Muppets do The Beatles

/no, not like that

Major upding.

The Muppets do Beckett: Waiting for Godot

7 Silvergirl  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:27:12pm

re: #1 Fenway_Nation

Why am I getting a mental image of Cleopatra soaking in an opulent marble bathtub all of a sudden?

I thought of Marat Sade.

8 calcajun  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:28:22pm

re: #6 iceweasel

Major upding.

The Muppets do Beckett: Waiting for Godot

Be back in ten minutes. Please wait. — Godot

9 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:29:19pm
You’re a historian. Tell me if there are any bath-tubs in history. I think they’ve been frightfully neglected.

At least in Europe.

Good night, everybody.Tip your bartenders and waitresses and drive home safely.

10 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:31:19pm

re: #9 Noam Sayin’

Shoulda thrown a rimshot in there.

Play me off, Johnny!

11 The Shadow Do  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:32:00pm

re: #7 Silvergirl

I thought of Marat Sade.

I thought of Glenn Close.

12 Silvergirl  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:32:59pm

re: #11 The Shadow Do

I thought of Glenn Close.

There was one bathtub scene!

13 pat  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:33:31pm

There are some women who have just the right amount of body fat. That would be Salma Hayek. An observation.

14 pat  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:34:19pm

poor old Marat…

15 pat  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:38:48pm

I see Mark Steyn is about as impressed with Teddy as i was.
Mark Steyn: Things only a Kennedy could get away with

[Link: www.ocregister.com…]

16 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:38:51pm

H. L. Menchen hoax. The false history of the bathtub.

A Neglected Anniversary

On December 20 there flitted past us, absolutely without public notice, one of the most important profane anniversaries in American history, to wit, the seventy-fifth anniversary of the introduction of the bathtub into These States. Not a plumber fired a salute or hung out a flag. Not a governor proclaimed a day of prayer. Not a newspaper called attention to the day.

True enough, it was not entirely forgotten. Eight or nine months ago one of the younger surgeons connected with the Public Health Service in Washington happened upon the facts while looking into the early history of public hygiene, and at his suggestion a committee was formed to celebrate the anniversary with a banquet. But before the plan was perfected Washington went dry, and so the banquet had to be abandoned. As it was, the day passed wholly unmarked, even in the capital of the nation.

Bathtubs are so common today that it is almost impossible to imagine a world without them. They are familiar to nearly everyone in all incorporated towns; in most of the large cities it is unlawful to build a dwelling house without putting them in; even on the farm they have begun to come into use. And yet the first American bathtub was installed and dedicated so recently as December 20, 1842, and, for all I know to the contrary, it may still be in existence and in use.

Curiously enough, the scene of its setting up was Cincinnati, then a squalid frontier town, and even today surely no leader in culture. But Cincinnati, in those days as in these, contained many enterprising merchants, and one of them was a man named Adam Thompson, a dealer in cotton and grain. Thompson shipped his grain by steamboat down the Ohio and Mississippi to New Orleans, and from there sent it to England in sailing vessels. This trade frequently took him to England, and in that country, during the ‘30s, he acquired the habit of bathing.

The bathtub was then still a novelty in England. It had been introduced in 1828 by Lord John Russell and its use was yet confined to a small class of enthusiasts. Moreover, the English bathtub, then as now, was a puny and inconvenient contrivance—little more, in fact, than a glorified dishpan—and filling and emptying it required the attendance of a servant. Taking a bath, indeed, was a rather heavy ceremony, and Lord John in 1835 was said to be the only man in England who had yet come to doing it every day.

Thompson, who was of inventive fancy—he later devised the machine that is still used for bagging hams and bacon—conceived the notion that the English bathtub would be much improved if it were made large enough to admit the whole body of an adult man, and if its supply of water, instead of being hauled to the scene by a maid, were admitted by pipes from a central reservoir and run off by the same means. Accordingly, early in 1842 he set about building the first modern bathroom in his Cincinnati home—a large house with Doric pillars, standing near what is now the corner of Monastery and Orleans streets. …

17 sngnsgt  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:43:17pm

re: #10 Noam Sayin’

Shoulda thrown a rimshot in there.

Play me off, Johnny!

Rimshot

18 Desert Dog  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:45:46pm

Obama is doing very well in Israel…

4% of Israeli Jews: Obama pro-Israel

19 pat  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:46:49pm

re: #16 HelloDare

lol

20 Desert Dog  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:48:43pm

Do whatever you want, we are all going to die anyway…
Death Rays From Space: How Bad Are They?

21 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:49:01pm

Mein Gott…A little over a year ago, shares in Oshkosh Trucks plummeted from close to $40 a share to $3 a share…I think part of that was because they had neglected to hedge against rising commodity prices.

I figured Oshkosh would recover at some point, but before it occured to me to go out and get some nice, cheap Oshkosh stock, they’ve nearly recovered their value from early 2008.

FWIW, Oshkosh manufactures the HEMTT (Heavily Expanded Mobile Tactical Truck) line of trucks for the US Military…but even with a new contract, I don’t think that’s enough for their stock to increase 7X in value since this spring…

22 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:50:29pm

It must be him. He doesn’t have a nose.

23 iceweasel  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:50:53pm

re: #8 calcajun

Be back in ten minutes. Please wait. — Godot

Awesome.

Here is a true tale from iDub’s life:

I used to get in trouble as a teenager (big surprise, I know) — for leaving or going out without saying where I was going or when I’d be back. Basically I hated authority and being told what to do, or even asking permission to do something.

After one big parental fight about this (“Leave a note saying where you’ve gone and when you’ll be back!”) I left the following note the next time:

I’ve gone out. I will be back when I get here.

Obviously, a further fight ensued, in which I maintained:
“I said where I was going- out! And i said when I’d be back. You wanted a note, you got a note. What’s the problem?”

iDub. Bad girl.
I’m sure my own kids one day will do it to me as well. Assuming I have any.

24 The Shadow Do  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:52:55pm

re: #18 Desert Dog

Obama is doing very well in Israel…

4% of Israeli Jews: Obama pro-Israel

He needs to send his friend Farrakhan to mend those fences.

25 Desert Dog  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:53:48pm

re: #24 The Shadow Do

He needs to send his friend Farrakhan to mend those fences.

Yes, what’s the deal with that 4%? Obama wants 0%!

26 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:54:00pm

re: #22 HelloDare

It must be him. He doesn’t have a nose.


[Video]

Dude! Micheal is totally stealing the Virgin Mary’s thunder. What a dick!
/

27 Desert Dog  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:54:26pm

re: #26 Slumbering Behemoth

Dude! Micheal is totally stealing the Virgin Mary’s thunder. What a dick!
/

That’s no Jesus Pancake, I can tell you that

28 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:54:40pm

re: #26 Slumbering Behemoth

Dude! Micheal is totally stealing the Virgin Mary’s thunder. What a dick!
/

Wonder when we’ll be hearing the first reports of the ghost of Teddy Kennedy spouting off Cape Cod.

29 HelloDare  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:55:43pm

re: #27 Desert Dog

That’s no Jesus Pancake, I can tell you that

Holy Toast!

30 Desert Dog  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:55:48pm

re: #28 HelloDare

Wonder when we’ll be hearing the first reports of the ghost of Teddy Kennedy spouting off Cape Cod.

The ghost of Mary Jo will be chasing him

31 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:56:49pm

re: #15 pat

I see Mark Steyn is about as impressed with Teddy as i was.
Mark Steyn: Things only a Kennedy could get away with

[Link: www.ocregister.com…]

Well, Nice.

As I posted on the last thread:

I guess the point was that his R colleagues *did* admire him, even if they disagreed with him. I suppose that means that they should be voted out as heretics…

The problem is that Teddy was one of the obvious targets for twenty years of Rush’s scorn. “The Drunk.” “The Swimmer.”

“I’ll rip open my shirt, got Mother Rosie on my chest, Yes, I’m a Kennedy, Yes, I’m, Ted Kennedy, The room spins round and round and round and round.”

An entire generation of conservative radio listeners got the full broadside of his scorn and never really understood the man. Shame, really. Big chunks of Republican legislation got through the Senate solely because Teddy compromised and signed off on it.

Mark Stein is a …what? He’s been elected to which? He has served in public service where? What is is his standing to comment on an individual who, despite his personal failings, may have been the single most influential Senator in history?

Despicable.

32 Desert Dog  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:57:29pm

Keep eating the donuts! For your own health!
Bigger butt may mean fewer hip fractures

33 austin_blue  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:57:58pm

re: #21 Fenway_Nation

Mein Gott…A little over a year ago, shares in Oshkosh Trucks plummeted from close to $40 a share to $3 a share…I think part of that was because they had neglected to hedge against rising commodity prices.

I figured Oshkosh would recover at some point, but before it occured to me to go out and get some nice, cheap Oshkosh stock, they’ve nearly recovered their value from early 2008.

FWIW, Oshkosh manufactures the HEMTT (Heavily Expanded Mobile Tactical Truck) line of trucks for the US Military…but even with a new contract, I don’t think that’s enough for their stock to increase 7X in value since this spring…

AIG is up near $50. The Gubmint owns 80% of it. Sell!

34 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Aug 28, 2009 11:59:18pm

re: #32 Desert Dog

There’s also a very usefull product called “hip savers”. They’re like football pads, for the 2 most common break point in the hips.
*waves* Hi Lizards!

35 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:00:11am

re: #33 austin_blue

At one point, AIG was at $1.92 a share.
Shudders at how much my elders owned of it, at one point in the recent past…

36 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:00:11am

re: #34 Floral Giraffe

There’s also a very usefull product called “hip savers”. They’re like football pads, for the 2 most common break point in the hips.
*waves* Hi Lizards!

So, all those donuts I’ve been eating “for my own protection” were unnecessary?

37 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:00:43am

re: #36 Desert Dog

HAH!
Like you were eating donuts for “protection”!
HAH!

38 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:00:59am

re: #31 austin_blue

Mark Stein is a …what? He’s been elected to which? He has served in public service where? What is is his standing to comment on an individual who, despite his personal failings, may have been the single most influential Senator in history?

Despicable.

Thank goodness you have a sense of humor, Avati, otherwise you would be insufferable.

39 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:01:09am

re: #31 austin_blue


Oh please…spare me the saccharine ‘Liberal Lion’ fucking bullshit. Teddy Kennedy’s deficencies as a human being aren’t the byproduct of Rush Limbaugh or talk radio.

40 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:01:09am

re: #23 iceweasel

Assuming I have any.

Don’t bother. Just live the life of ease, luxury, and increased expendable income that comes with non-parenthood.

Don’t worry, there are families out there more than willing to take up the slack of non-parents, and then some.

41 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:01:40am

Bathtubs? I’ll tell ya what’s underrated; English Muffins. Probably not English, definitely not muffin. People never buy them but would you ever turn one down? They’re fantastic.

42 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:02:02am

re: #38 The Shadow Do

Austin, Avanti… I’m so confused.

43 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:02:05am

re: #13 pat

There are some women who have just the right amount of body fat. That would be Salma Hayek. An observation.

Two more: Scarlett Johansson and Christina Hendricks (Joan Holloway on Mad Men)

Every woman has an optimal amount of bodyfat, which is perfect for her body. Probably every man does too, but who gives a shit about that?

44 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:03:24am

Smells like…like…like…Capt Kirk?
Genki Wear Annouces the New Star Trek line of fragrances

When there’s a hot green chick around…splash on some Tiberius, man!

45 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:03:40am

re: #41 Killgore Trout

MMM, fork split, sourdough English muffins! YUM!

46 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:03:53am

re: #43 garycooper

Salma Hayek, From Dusk Till Dawn

47 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:04:13am

re: #41 Killgore Trout

Bathtubs? I’ll tell ya what’s underrated; English Muffins. Probably not English, definitely not muffin. People never buy them but would you ever turn one down? They’re fantastic.

I lived in London for 7 months and I never saw one.

48 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:04:34am

re: #33 austin_blue

I don’t think Oshkosh was bailed out or taken over by the Gov’t at any point- on the other hand, the military happens to be their single biggest customer.

49 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:05:07am

re: #41 Killgore Trout

Bathtubs? I’ll tell ya what’s underrated; English Muffins. Probably not English, definitely not muffin. People never buy them but would you ever turn one down? They’re fantastic.

They have to be the right brand though, or else they’re rubbish. I only buy Thomas English Muffins. I’ve recently experimented with their whole wheat model, with very good results.

50 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:06:50am

re: #49 garycooper

You can make some pretty epic mini-pizzas with those, provided you have the right ingredients.

51 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:07:26am

re: #47 Desert Dog

I lived in London for 7 months and I never saw one.

Lived in England for 8 years and didn’t know what one was until I moved to Indiana.

Do you bake them in a pie shell?

52 HelloDare  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:07:44am

re: #31 austin_blue

Mark Stein is a …what? He’s been elected to which? He has served in public service where? What is is his standing to comment on an individual who, despite his personal failings, may have been the single most influential Senator in history?

Didn’t know people had to be elected to a public office in order to comment on a politician.

I take it you must be a columnist. Otherwise you wouldn’t have standing to comment on Mark Steyn.

53 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:08:25am

re: #46 Killgore Trout

Salma Hayek, From Dusk Till Dawn



Yes. Even better than an English muffin.

54 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:08:43am

re: #51 The Shadow Do

Lived in England for 8 years and didn’t know what one was until I moved to Indiana.

Do you bake them in a pie shell?

Toaster…with butter or jam…they are like little flat scones, but not sweet…

55 Desert Dog  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:09:16am

re: #53 garycooper

Yes. Even better than an English muffin.

A Spanish tart is always better than an English muffin

56 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:09:50am

re: #49 garycooper

They have to be the right brand though, or else they’re rubbish. I only buy Thomas English Muffins.


Does anyone else even make an English muffin?

57 Killgore Trout  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:10:22am

Dogma Salma Hayek

58 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:10:50am

re: #39 Fenway_Nation

Oh please…spare me the saccharine ‘Liberal Lion’ fucking bullshit. Teddy Kennedy’s deficencies as a human being aren’t the byproduct of Rush Limbaugh or talk radio.

And who is speaking at his funeral?

59 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:10:51am

re: #50 Slumbering Behemoth

You can make some pretty epic mini-pizzas with those, provided you have the right ingredients.

There’s a project for tomorrow. Then, I’m building a loft for my eldest, to go in her dorm. She’s leaving home, as the song goes. (sniff)

60 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:11:31am

re: #42 The Shadow Do

Austin, Avanti… I’m so confused.

Apparently…

61 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:11:46am

re: #55 Desert Dog

She’s more like an empanada, full of juicy meat.

62 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:12:42am

re: #56 Killgore Trout

Does anyone else even make an English muffin?

Yes, there are store brands here in MI, and they’re complete crap. The holes are all wrong, the texture, the flavor…awful!

63 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:13:33am

Selma Hayek has that half Latina/half Lebanese thing going on…apparently alot of Lebanese made their way to Latin America after fleeing the prolonged civil war there…although some actually arrived at the turn of the last century.

64 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:13:38am

re: #54 Desert Dog

Toaster…with butter or jam…they are like little flat scones, but not sweet…

Sort of a joke. I had a Brit nanny for a period as a kid. Whatever my mom had put up in the cupboard became a pie. Green beans, cranberry sauce, you name it…if it came in a can it became a pie.

65 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:15:35am

re: #23 iceweasel

The biggest motivational factor of grandparents? REVENGE.

66 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:16:30am

re: #63 Fenway_Nation

Wow. I never knew she was…Oh. LEBANESE. Sorry. My mistake.

67 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:16:59am

Mark Steyn is one of the most brilliant social commentators of our time. If you don’t know who he is, and how good he is, you might as well find a nice big mushroom to live under. Or, pick up a collection of his writings. Or, you could hang out at HuffPo and read the cream of that crop, like the one today who wrote that Mary Jo just might have felt it was worth it, the way she gave her life for her country.

68 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:18:04am

re: #52 HelloDare

Didn’t know people had to be elected to a public office in order to comment on a politician.

I take it you must be a columnist. Otherwise you wouldn’t have standing to comment on Mark Steyn.

My point is that he neither worked with the man or knew him personally, yet feels justified in judging him. Again, take a look at who is speaking at the funeral. I am sure Rush will be enraged.

69 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:18:24am

re: #67 garycooper

Mark Steyn is one of the most brilliant social commentators of our time. If you don’t know who he is, and how good he is, you might as well find a nice big mushroom to live under. Or, pick up a collection of his writings. Or, you could hang out at HuffPo and read the cream of that crop, like the one today who wrote that Mary Jo just might have felt it was worth it, the way she gave her life for her country.

You can’t be serious

70 HelloDare  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:18:27am

Oh, and the Atlantic Magazine hired Mark Steyn to write obituaries. So he’s had plenty of practice writing about dead people. His obits were so good the were gathered into a book.

Mark Steyn’s Passing Parade

Mark Steyn, wrote The Washington Post’s Peter Carlson, “may be the world’s wittiest obit writer.” So here, by special request, is a collection of favorites from Mark’s morgue, obituaries and appreciations of towering figures and scurvy lowlifes and all points in between. Inside you’ll find Steyn’s take on Ronald Reagan, Idi Amin, the Princess of Wales, Bob Hope, Madame Chiang Kai-shek, Artie Shaw and Pope John Paul II - plus Zimbabwe’s Reverend Canaan Banana, Scotty from Star Trek, Nixon’s secretary and Gershwin’s girlfriend. It’s the passing parade of our times, from presidents and prime ministers to the guy who invented Cool Whip.

71 swamprat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:19:20am

re: #67 garycooper


Taking things a bit seriously, no?

72 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:19:44am

re: #66 calcajun

Half Lebanese…

Another prominent Mexican- multibillionaire Carlos Slim- is of Lebanese ancestry, although his family had been in Mexico since 1911.

73 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:20:33am

Joan Holloway…(hush)

74 swamprat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:20:33am

re: #67 garycooper

I feel the same way about Jim Varney.

75 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:21:23am

re: #74 swamprat

I feel the same way about Jim Varney.

your forgot, “KnowhatImean?”

76 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:21:24am

re: #69 The Shadow Do

You can’t be serious

Dead serious. You can’t make these things up.

77 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:21:34am

re: #70 HelloDare

Oh, and the Atlantic Magazine hired Mark Steyn to write obituaries. So he’s had plenty of practice writing about dead people. His obits were so good the were gathered into a book.

Mark Steyn’s Passing Parade

I read some of those. Great stuff. But his most important work in the US so far remains America Alone.

78 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:22:32am

re: #68 austin_blue

My point is that he neither worked with the man or knew him personally, yet feels justified in judging him. Again, take a look at who is speaking at the funeral. I am sure Rush will be enraged.

I did not work with Ted Kennedy. I did not know him personally. Therefore, due to my ignorance (along with 99.9999% of the population) I shall simply ignore the fact that he ever existed. Ted who?

79 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:23:10am

re: #67 garycooper

Mark Steyn is one of the most brilliant social commentators of our time. If you don’t know who he is, and how good he is, you might as well find a nice big mushroom to live under. Or, pick up a collection of his writings. Or, you could hang out at HuffPo and read the cream of that crop, like the one today who wrote that Mary Jo just might have felt it was worth it, the way she gave her life for her country.

I don’t disagree, but in this specific case, he is commenting out of his ass. Again, take a look at the R’s who are speaking at Teddy’s funeral. These are people who actually knew him, worked with him, and deeply respected him. Steyn has none of their insight and knowledge and feels comfortable in bloviating.

Pitiful.

80 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:23:24am

re: #71 swamprat

Taking things a bit seriously, no?

Sure, why not? Usually I just make fun of everything. I must be having my man-period, tonight.

81 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:24:17am

re: #65 calcajun

The biggest motivational factor of grandparents? REVENGE.

Hardly worth it. Revenge is a bitter motivator, and quickly leaves the vengeful an empty husk of venom and spite, often without them ever achieving their bitter goal.

/just trying to be a downer, here

82 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:24:20am

re: #74 swamprat

I feel the same way about Jim Varney.

I know whut you mean.

83 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:24:56am

I had no idea that James Doohan- Scotty of Star Trek- stormed the beaches of Normandie on D-Day with the Canadian Infantry until I read his obituary…

He was hit multiple times and had one of his fingers shot off, but the editors at Star Trek and the Twilight Zone never showed his injured hand in any of the shots…

84 HelloDare  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:24:58am

re: #68 austin_blue

My point is that he neither worked with the man or knew him personally, yet feels justified in judging him. Again, take a look at who is speaking at the funeral. I am sure Rush will be enraged.

I never worked with Kennedy either and I feel justified in saying that if he were a Republican he would never have been elected after the drove off that bridge.

I never knew Teddy Kennedy personally and I feel justified in saying that this is despicable.

This isn’t an accusation from Ted Kennedy’s political opponents, but a nostalgic remembrance by one of his friends. Ed Klein, former Newsweek editor, tells the Diane Rehm Show:

“I dont know if you know this or not, but one of his favorite topics of humor was indeed Chappaquiddick itself. And he would ask people, have you heard any new jokes about Chappaquiddick? That is just the most amazing thing. Its not that he didnt feel remorse about the death of Mary Jo Kopechne, but that he still always saw the other side of everything and the ridiculous side of things, too.”

85 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:25:18am

re: #67 garycooper

Mark Steyn is one of the most brilliant social commentators of our time.

Bollocks. Mark Steyn is an ass.

Here he is calling for ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Why did Bosnia collapse into the worst slaughter in Europe since World War Two? In the thirty years before the meltdown, Bosnian Serbs had declined from 43 percent to 31 percent of the population, while Bosnian Muslims had increased from 26 percent to 44 percent. In a democratic age, you can’t buck demography — except through civil war. The Serbs figured that out — as other Continentals will in the years ahead: if you can’t outbreed the enemy, cull ‘em. The problem that Europe faces is that Bosnia’s demographic profile is now the model for the entire continent.


I don’t see how it’s possible to interpret this excerpt — given that Steyn is also contending that these demographics are inevitable throughout Europe, and he offers no solution that would accommodate or assimilate Muslims — as anything other than outright advocacy of genocide and the Bosnian model of “ethnic cleansing” for the rest of Europe.

Here he is exhibiting his usual homophobia, ignorance, and islamophobia:

How does he degrade Native American religions and homosexuality, defend monotheism (and its homophobia), yet remain the numero uno Islamophobe of world wingnuttia? How indeed: by implying that Islam alone among the “Abrahamic” religions has ever endorsed polygamy. Oooo-kay.

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com…]

He’s loathsome.

86 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:25:51am

I think that Steyn’s article makes a good point. Whatever his personality, and whatever his achievements, the fact remains that Edward Kennedy left a woman to die. Nothing he did or said can mitigate that. The fact that he got away with letting someone die does say something about America.

87 swamprat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:25:59am
88 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:26:18am

re: #67 garycooper

Oh, please do not start on that. If it has happened to anyone else, they would have been tried for manslaughter. But, he then had the termitity to take Ford to task for pardoning Nixon, siting that the President was acting “above the law”. I feel for his family and those who loved him, but as we remember the positive aspects of the man, we also recall that he had no shame—or that those around him made him what he was.

89 capitalist piglet  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:26:52am

re: #79 austin_blue

I don’t disagree, but in this specific case, he is commenting out of his ass. Again, take a look at the R’s who are speaking at Teddy’s funeral. These are people who actually knew him, worked with him, and deeply respected him. Steyn has none of their insight and knowledge and feels comfortable in bloviating.

Pitiful.

Did you see the story out today about his friend, describing how Senator Kennedy used to enjoy Chappaquiddick jokes, and used to ask people if they had any new ones?

Do you think that is something someone worthy of respect would do?

90 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:27:02am

re: #79 austin_blue

I don’t disagree, but in this specific case, he is commenting out of his ass. Again, take a look at the R’s who are speaking at Teddy’s funeral. These are people who actually knew him, worked with him, and deeply respected him. Steyn has none of their insight and knowledge and feels comfortable in bloviating.

Pitiful.

I shan’t bloviate, why should you? Are you comfortable with that?
Did you have that personal relationship? Did you work with the man?

91 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:27:21am

re: #79 austin_blue

No…leaving the chick you were gonna take home to drown/suffocate in your ride while you swim to shore and call your lawyers is pretty despicable.

92 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:28:02am

re: #81 Slumbering Behemoth

Hardly worth it. Revenge is a bitter motivator, and quickly leaves the vengeful an empty husk of venom and spite, often without them ever achieving their bitter goal.

/just trying to be a downer, here

Insert “turd-A” into “punchbowl-B”. Wait for hilarity to ensue./

93 swamprat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:29:04am

re: #83 Fenway_Nation

I had no idea that James Doohan- Scotty of Star Trek- stormed the beaches of Normandie on D-Day with the Canadian Infantry until I read his obituary…

He was hit multiple times and had one of his fingers shot off, but the editors at Star Trek and the Twilight Zone never showed his injured hand in any of the shots…


The man who played “lebeau” in Hogan’s Heroes was once a german pow.

94 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:29:09am

re: #83 Fenway_Nation

I had no idea that James Doohan- Scotty of Star Trek- stormed the beaches of Normandie on D-Day with the Canadian Infantry until I read his obituary…

He was hit multiple times and had one of his fingers shot off, but the editors at Star Trek and the Twilight Zone never showed his injured hand in any of the shots…

He was a man, indeed. Unlike his fellow Canadian, Bill “what’s ‘is name”.

95 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:29:38am

re: #83 Fenway_Nation

A ballsy Canuck, that one. May he rest in peace.

96 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:29:54am

re: #85 iceweasel

Here he is exhibiting his usual homophobia, ignorance, and islamophobia:

How does he degrade Native American religions and homosexuality, defend monotheism (and its homophobia), yet remain the numero uno Islamophobe of world wingnuttia? How indeed: by implying that Islam alone among the “Abrahamic” religions has ever endorsed polygamy. Oooo-kay.

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com…]

He’s loathsome.

Iceweasel, I feel compelled to point that Styen has never called for any violence whatsoever. The rise in the number of Muslims in Europe is a problem, unless they can be steered onto a path towards integration and away from Islamism.

97 swamprat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:29:55am

re: #91 Fenway_Nation

He’s dead, Jim.

98 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:31:03am

re: #93 swamprat

The man who played “lebeau” in Hogan’s Heroes was once a german pow.

Not just that— Robert Clary is Jewish. Born Robert Max Widerman.

99 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:32:24am

re: #85 iceweasel

Here he is exhibiting his usual homophobia, ignorance, and islamophobia:

How does he degrade Native American religions and homosexuality, defend monotheism (and its homophobia), yet remain the numero uno Islamophobe of world wingnuttia? How indeed: by implying that Islam alone among the “Abrahamic” religions has ever endorsed polygamy. Oooo-kay.

[Link: corner.nationalreview.com…]

He’s loathsome.

Are you crying? There, there…the bad man is gone now. We won’t talk of him anymore.

100 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:32:45am

re: #84 HelloDare

Look, Chappaquidick was a tragedy for everyone involved. It cost Teddy the Presidency, which turned out to be a good thing. I don’t know if if an unattributed statement on an NPR radio show is factual or not. And neither do you. But it certainly it has legs in cyberspace. ((obviously))

101 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:33:23am

re: #92 calcajun

Insert “turd-A” into “punchbowl-B”. Wait for hilarity to ensue./

Ha! You should have end that with “Think you can handle that Martha Stewart”?

/Or Rachel Ray, whichever is more topically relevant now…

102 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:33:26am

re: #96 Dark_Falcon

Iceweasel, I feel compelled to point that Styen has never called for any violence whatsoever. The rise in the number of Muslims in Europe is a problem, unless they can be steered onto a path towards integration and away from Islamism.

DF, I just don’t know how else to interpret this statement of his:

Why did Bosnia collapse into the worst slaughter in Europe since World War Two? In the thirty years before the meltdown, Bosnian Serbs had declined from 43 percent to 31 percent of the population, while Bosnian Muslims had increased from 26 percent to 44 percent. In a democratic age, you can’t buck demography — except through civil war. The Serbs figured that out — as other Continentals will in the years ahead: if you can’t outbreed the enemy, cull ‘em. The problem that Europe faces is that Bosnia’s demographic profile is now the model for the entire continent.

And I don’t see Muslims as a problem — unless they’re the violent fringe extremist types. But that doesn’t describe most Muslims. It just doesn’t.

103 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:34:08am

re: #99 garycooper

Are you crying? There, there…the bad man is gone now. We won’t talk of him anymore.

I think you wish I were crying. No, I’m laughing. ;)

104 The Shadow Do  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:34:16am

re: #100 austin_blue

Look, Chappaquidick was a tragedy for everyone involved. It cost Teddy the Presidency, which turned out to be a good thing. I don’t know if if an unattributed statement on an NPR radio show is factual or not. And neither do you. But it certainly it has legs in cyberspace. ((obviously))

“tragedy”
*scoff*
It was a fucking crime.

105 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:35:23am

re: #101 Slumbering Behemoth

Ha! You should have end that with “Think you can handle that Martha Stewart”?

/Or Rachel Ray, whichever is more topically relevant now…

Rachel Ray is too damn perky. I want what she is taking. But, I cannot imagine her using the words “turd” and “deelish” in the same sentence.

106 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:36:31am

re: #103 iceweasel

I think you wish I were crying. No, I’m laughing. ;)

Good for you! Laughter is the best medicine. After penicillin.

107 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:36:33am

Werner Klemperer- the son of Jewish immigrants and a WWII Vet- went on to play Stalag 13 commandant Kol. Klink on Hogan’s Heroes.

However, he would only agree to the role if Klink was portrayed as a buffoon who was always being outsmarted…

108 capitalist piglet  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:37:02am

re: #100 austin_blue

Look, Chappaquidick was a tragedy for everyone involved. It cost Teddy the Presidency, which turned out to be a good thing. I don’t know if if an unattributed statement on an NPR radio show is factual or not. And neither do you. But it certainly it has legs in cyberspace. ((obviously))

Boo. Frigging. Hoo. It cost him the presidency!

Did he deserve it? You do know what happened at Chappaquiddick, don’t you?

109 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:37:37am

re: #100 austin_blue

Look, Chappaquidick was a tragedy for everyone involved. It cost Teddy the Presidency, which turned out to be a good thing. I don’t know if if an unattributed statement on an NPR radio show is factual or not. And neither do you. But it certainly it has legs in cyberspace. ((obviously))

If you or I had done what he did, we would have been charged, and probably convicted, or manslaughter, if not murder. It was a whitewash that allowed him to keep his station. That only compounded his crime.

110 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:38:15am

re: #107 Fenway_Nation

Werner Klemperer- the son of Jewish immigrants and a WWII Vet- went on to play Stalag 13 commandant Kol. Klink on Hogan’s Heroes.

However, he would only agree to the role if Klink was portrayed as a buffoon who was always being outsmarted…

You forgot that his dad was a great conductor, as well.

111 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:38:54am

re: #105 calcajun

I can, and it makes me cry.
/

112 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:39:46am

Who thinks Teddy would have been elected president in 1980, if he hadn’t killed Mary Jo?

Personally, I think not. The country was ripe for Reagan, who I didn’t vote for either time he ran, btw. I was still a scum-sucking liberal Dem back then. ;)

113 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:40:18am

re: #111 Slumbering Behemoth

I can, and it makes me cry.
/

Well, she does have a shit-eating grin…oh, God, it’s late.///

114 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:40:20am

re: #109 calcajun

If you or I had done what he did, we would have been charged, and probably convicted, or manslaughter, if not murder. It was a whitewash that allowed him to keep his station. That only compounded his crime.

Yeah, but that’s not a Dem vs Repub thing…that’s just the way it always is when someone rich and connected commits a crime. Regardless of party or politics. Look at Bill Ayers.

115 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:41:31am

re: #112 garycooper

Who thinks Teddy would have been elected president in 1980, if he hadn’t killed Mary Jo?

Personally, I think not. The country was ripe for Reagan, who I didn’t vote for either time he ran, btw. I was still a scum-sucking liberal Dem back then. ;)


Huh? He was trying to unseat Carter for the nomination. He didn’t have a snowball’s chance. It was his only time to do it and he flopped.

116 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:41:49am

Bob Crane went on to star in many indie films after “Hogan’s Heroes.” Low-budget films, with a gritty feel.

117 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:42:05am

re: #100 austin_blue

Look, Chappaquidick was a tragedy for everyone involved. It cost Teddy the Presidency, which turned out to be a good thing. I don’t know if if an unattributed statement on an NPR radio show is factual or not. And neither do you. But it certainly it has legs in cyberspace. ((obviously))

Interesting…wonder if I could skate like Teddy did if I drove my car into a river and left to occupants to die while I called my lawyers and family to figure out my next move…which apparently would not include entertaining any thoughts of rescuing my passengers.

Wonder if the MSM would portray such an event as a ‘tragedy’ or the byproduct of a selfish, irresponsible douchebag who killed somebody else and should be held accountable in a court of law.

118 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:42:55am

re: #113 calcajun

I almost went there, decided not too, and then you went and did what I hesitated to do. Awesome! This beer is on me, cheers!

119 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:43:04am

re: #114 iceweasel

Bull puckey. If he had been a Republican, it would have been the death knell of his career. Only and Kennedy and a Democrat could have survived that debacle.

120 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:43:47am

re: #119 calcajun

Bull puckey. If he had been a Republican, it would have been the death knell of his career. Only and Kennedy and a Democrat could have survived that debacle.

Quite Concur.

121 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:43:54am

re: #115 calcajun

Huh? He was trying to unseat Carter for the nomination. He didn’t have a snowball’s chance. It was his only time to do it and he flopped.

Like a fish out of water, he flopped.

122 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:44:40am

Morning everyone!

123 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:44:49am

re: #119 calcajun

Isn’t Larry Craig out of a job for playing footsie in a Minneapolis airport?

Yea…that’s much worse than vehicular homicide./

124 swamprat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:45:34am

re: #116 garycooper

Yeah, he had his own camera!


/non chalant whistling

125 garycooper  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:45:35am

Time for me to flop. C’yall!

126 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:45:46am

re: #122 srb1976


Morning, srb!

127 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:45:58am

re: #122 srb1976

Hi SRB! How are you doing? Shifts OK?

128 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:45:58am

re: #123 Fenway_Nation

Isn’t Larry Craig out of a job for playing footsie in a Minneapolis airport?

Yea…that’s much worse than vehicular homicide./

Ah, dear Larry. What is behind him is not important.//

129 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:46:36am

Nite all.

130 capitalist piglet  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:46:54am

re: #112 garycooper

Who thinks Teddy would have been elected president in 1980, if he hadn’t killed Mary Jo?

Personally, I think not. The country was ripe for Reagan, who I didn’t vote for either time he ran, btw. I was still a scum-sucking liberal Dem back then. ;)

I don’t think so either, but the idea that it was a “tragedy” for poor Ted Kennedy is just too much to stomach. To find out he often joked about it - from a close friend who thought the story was flattering, apparently - tells me everything about the man I need to know.

And don’t get us started on Venona.

He should rest in peace, but I draw the line way before all this worship.

131 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:47:00am

re: #125 garycooper


Flop or flounce?

132 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:47:07am

re: #119 calcajun

Bull puckey. If he had been a Republican, it would have been the death knell of his career. Only and Kennedy and a Democrat could have survived that debacle.

Oh right. I forgot. The republicans are good and innocent and unfairly victimised, and the Democrats are eeevil. And somehow it’s the Democrats who ‘get away’ with everything, never a republican.

remind me again— what were the party affiliations of the POTUS who skated on Iran-Contra, and the one who got a pardon for Watergate?

And who got impeached for a blowjob?

Yeah, filthy trickse libs are always getting away with stuff. Right.

133 HelloDare  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:47:40am

re: #100 austin_blue

Look, Chappaquidick was a tragedy for everyone involved. It cost Teddy the Presidency, which turned out to be a good thing. I don’t know if if an unattributed statement on an NPR radio show is factual or not. And neither do you. But it certainly it has legs in cyberspace. ((obviously))

Unattributed? There’s a recording of Klein saying it. Ed Klein, lefty Newsweek editor was one of Kennedy’s friends.

134 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:47:55am

re: #102 iceweasel

And I don’t see Muslims as a problem — unless they’re the violent fringe extremist types. But that doesn’t describe most Muslims. It just doesn’t.

I don’t see Muslims as a problem, but I do see Islam as a problem.

Let me link to an article to help me explain:

Modernists in Medieval Clothing

135 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:48:15am

re: #127 Floral Giraffe

Hi SRB! How are you doing? Shifts OK?

FG!! Good to see ya!
We’re all doing ok here…my boss(es) have decided that I should be on day shift…like regular people…needless to say, better half and munchkins are pretty happy about that!

136 SixDegrees  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:48:16am

re: #123 Fenway_Nation

Isn’t Larry Craig out of a job for playing footsie in a Minneapolis airport?

You know, maybe I’ve led a particularly sheltered life, but I’ve never been aware of any gay foot tapping bathroom code before the Craig incident. At least, no one’s ever tapped their feet in any restroom I’ve ever been in. Maybe I should be offended?

137 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:48:27am

Before this goes any further, or should I say before it get’s more heated, let’s remember that Ted is just recently dead, and that Charles has a low tolerance for those speaking horribly ill of the recently dead.

Not saying anyone has, or is coming close to crossing that line, I’m just sayin’.

/wet blanket

138 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:48:29am

re: #129 calcajun

G’nite Cal! Don’t let the turduckens bite!

139 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:50:16am

re: #137 Slumbering Behemoth

Before this goes any further, or should I say before it get’s more heated, let’s remember that Ted is just recently dead, and that Charles has a low tolerance for those speaking horribly ill of the recently dead.

Not saying anyone has, or is coming close to crossing that line, I’m just sayin’.

/wet blanket

That wet blanket is most welcome and quite wise.

140 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:51:47am

re: #91 Fenway_Nation

No…leaving the chick you were gonna take home to drown/suffocate in your ride while you swim to shore and call your lawyers is pretty despicable.

Ever run a red light and thought Holy Shit! That could have been awful! Ever drive when you probably shouldn’t have? Ever made a horrible mistake? No?

Congratulations!

Within the Catholic Church is the concept of mercy. One confesses one’s sins and is absolved, within the Church. Personal absolution takes more time. You apparently believe that there is no absolution for his action. Others obviously believe otherwise, including Orrin Hatch.

Fancy that.

141 Areozol  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:52:07am

Hi there.

What about the Rockefeller-Snowe Cybersecurity bill?

nternet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.

They’re not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft of S.773 (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.

Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

142 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:52:13am

re: #132 iceweasel

And who got impeached for a blowjob?


Classic display of either ignorance or selective memory. It was perjury—he lied under oath in a deposition— which got him him disbarred from the AR Bar and the US Supreme Court Bar. The dalliance was not what stained his presidency—it was his hubris in lying to cover it up.

143 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:52:56am

re: #138 Fenway_Nation

Ah, a pleasant thought to take to sleep.

144 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:53:45am

re: #135 srb1976

Congratulations! Hope it lasts!
*waves*

145 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:55:03am

re: #140 austin_blue

Ever run a red light and thought Holy Shit! That could have been awful! Ever drive when you probably shouldn’t have? Ever made a horrible mistake? No?

Congratulations!

Within the Catholic Church is the concept of mercy. One confesses one’s sins and is absolved, within the Church. Personal absolution takes more time. You apparently believe that there is no absolution for his action. Others obviously believe otherwise, including Orrin Hatch.

Fancy that.

I truly do hope he repent of his grave sin and was forgiven. I don’t know the man’s heart, but I do hope his repentance was genuine. God does know what Kennedy really felt, and I leave final judgment up to him.

146 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:55:55am

re: #132 iceweasel

I think that attention desire is a disease. Politicians & actors are most famous/infamous for it. Many unpleasant things have been done by public & private folks for the sake of attention.

147 SixDegrees  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:56:15am

re: #141 Areozol

Hi there.

What about the Rockefeller-Snowe Cybersecurity bill?

Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

Discussed at length yesterday. Hardly anymore exciting than already existing emergency powers such as ordering all commercial air traffic grounded, ability to seize control of highways, ships, trucks, rail transport and countless other resources in times of emergency. If anything, it’s an excellent idea to have a plan in place before anything unpleasant happens, rather than be left floundering in the midst of a crisis.

148 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:56:36am

re: #140 austin_blue

So far…the absolute worst of my mistakes at last count have resulted in ZERO- count ‘em- ZERO fucking fatalities.

And don’t be insulting my intelligence by suddenly finding religion so that St. Teddy the Imperfect can get ‘Get out of Accountibility Free’ card.

149 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:57:09am

re: #136 SixDegrees

You know, maybe I’ve led a particularly sheltered life, but I’ve never been aware of any gay foot tapping bathroom code before the Craig incident. At least, no one’s ever tapped their feet in any restroom I’ve ever been in. Maybe I should be offended?

Believe it or not, there is an extremely influential sociological work from 1970 called The Tearoom Trade. “tearoom” is Brit slang for bathroom.

It’s all about the practice of gay men having anonymous sex in public bathrooms— in the US. ‘tearoom’ was gay slang for the practice in the US; in the UK it’s called ‘cottaging’.

The book itself has caused major controversy for ethical reasons. The author admitted years later that he was gay (but then closeted), which is obviously why he was interested in the topic at all.
Check the link. Really interesting.
Anyway— there clearly is a whole subculture that is invisible to straight men. The gay men presumably know not to hit on you — or you’ve seen subtle signals and not recognised the code, so they didn’t pursue it.

150 Syrah  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:57:19am

re: #141 Areozol

Hi there.

What about the Rockefeller-Snowe Cybersecurity bill?

Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

All that I hear about this is crickets on the left.

Do you remember the Information Awareness Office?

151 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:58:08am

re: #135 srb1976

Nice- I was recently introduced to the joys of working swing shift courtesey of my temp agency. I’m looking for a way to gracefully extricate myself right about now…

152 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:59:19am

re: #139 Dark_Falcon

I just don’t want to see anyone lose their posting privileges here over a discussion that could easily wait for a month or so.

Personally, I don’t have anything nice to say about the man, and that is why I am saying nothing about him in the wake of his passing.

There is a time and a place for all things.

153 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 12:59:57am

re: #150 Syrah

All that I hear about this is crickets on the left.

Do you remember the Information Awareness Office?

Yes, but its diffent when a Democrat propose an idea. When we propose something, the MSM jump on it because conservatives are evil.

/spits on the MSM

154 swamprat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:00:09am

re: #142 calcajun


How can you cover up that which is not a crime?

jfk& Marilyn Monroe…not a crime

Thomas Jefferson and his ,(ahem*) ..slave…not a crime

I know there are others

155 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:00:14am

re: #152 Slumbering Behemoth

I just don’t want to see anyone lose their posting privileges here over a discussion that could easily wait for a month or so.

Personally, I don’t have anything nice to say about the man, and that is why I am saying nothing about him in the wake of his passing.

There is a time and a place for all things.

Agreed.

156 HelloDare  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:00:16am

re: #140 austin_blue

Ever run a red light and kill somebody and thought Holy Shit! That could have been awful if I got caught or sent to prison! Ever drive when you probably shouldn’t have? Ever made a horrible mistake like leaving a woman to die and not calling the police till the next day after you consulted with your advisers and lawyer? No? Ever ask people if they have any jokes about the time you ran a red light and killed somebody?

Congratulations!

157 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:00:16am

re: #151 Fenway_Nation

Nice- I was recently introduced to the joys of working swing shift courtesey of my temp agency. I’m looking for a way to gracefully extricate myself right about now…

I never really minded rotating shifts…our schedule means we get a lot of time off (4 days between shifts). I’m sitting out waiting for drug test results for the next few days anyway, so probably won’t be working much next week at all…

158 Jack Burton  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:01:06am

re: #152 Slumbering Behemoth

I just don’t want to see anyone lose their posting privileges here over a discussion that could easily wait for a month or so.

Personally, I don’t have anything nice to say about the man, and that is why I am saying nothing about him in the wake of his passing.

There is a time and a place for all things.

My exact feelings. Nothing further to say that is nice so I’m in ignore mode for awhile.

159 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:01:40am

re: #137 Slumbering Behemoth

And, as was said the night Ted Kennedy passed, he should be respected for his many years of service to our country, if for no other reason.
(Too lazy to go find the original quote)

160 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:02:15am

re: #142 calcajun

Classic display of either ignorance or selective memory. It was perjury—he lied under oath in a deposition— which got him him disbarred from the AR Bar and the US Supreme Court Bar. The dalliance was not what stained his presidency—it was his hubris in lying to cover it up.

Classic— and predictable— case of Republican misdirection. I knew someone would make this claim.
The perjury only came about as the result of an extended witch-hunt digging into everything possible on Clinton — real estate deals, phony sexual harassment charges, everything.

They finally hit paydirt when they found some bint willing to tape a girl who’d given the Clenis a blowjob.

And now the claim is all “It’s the perjury! the perjury!” Bullshit. Lying about a blowjob? A lot of people have done that.

BTW, my point still stands about Iran-Contra and Watergate. You can’t pretend that Dems always get a pass and Repubs never do.

161 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:02:27am

re: #149 iceweasel


I found out about the whole highway restroom thing before There’s Something About Mary came out only because I was propositioned by two men at a rest stop in southeastern Georgia when I went into the men’s toom to change out of my Army BDUs into my civillian clothes.

162 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:03:14am

re: #154 swamprat

Am off to bed. Sorry to sound terse, but did those involve lying under oath? WJC did just that — an impeachable misdemeanor. If he ad said in Feb 1998, yep— I did the nasty with Monica— he would have spared this Country ten months of a silly soap opera. Instead he tried to brass it out. It was a mistake.

163 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:03:19am

re: #148 Fenway_Nation

So far…the absolute worst of my mistakes at last count have resulted in ZERO- count ‘em- ZERO fucking fatalities.

And don’t be insulting my intelligence by suddenly finding religion so that St. Teddy the Imperfect can get ‘Get out of Accountibility Free’ card.

Then you have been lucky , haven’t you? Are you telling me that you have never driven when you have maybe had a little too much to drink? I know I have. I think most of us have. And there but for the grace of god we could have been in Teddy’s situation. In 19fucking69 for pity’s sake.

Just for fun, here’s the classic NatLamp ad:

Image: tedvwsmall.jpg

164 Dancing along the light of day  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:03:49am

Good Night, Lizards of the evening.
Please treat each other with kindness & respect.
Stay ever so scaly!

165 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:04:25am

re: #164 Floral Giraffe

Night FG…have a good one = )

166 swamprat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:05:29am

re: #162 calcajun

Disagree. They had him either way.

167 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:05:35am

re: #160 iceweasel

Nice that you can so easily can condone one crime while condemning others. Interesting double standard you have there.

Now— really. Night, folks.

168 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:05:40am

re: #160 iceweasel

Classic— and predictable— case of Republican misdirection. I knew someone would make this claim.
The perjury only came about as the result of an extended witch-hunt digging into everything possible on Clinton — real estate deals, phony sexual harassment charges, everything.

They finally hit paydirt when they found some bint willing to tape a girl who’d given the Clenis a blowjob.

And now the claim is all “It’s the perjury! the perjury!” Bullshit. Lying about a blowjob? A lot of people have done that.

BTW, my point still stands about Iran-Contra and Watergate. You can’t pretend that Dems always get a pass and Repubs never do.

If he’d lied to the press, that would be one thing. Lying under oath is quite another. I’ll also remind you that it was Janet Reno who handed the prejury issue to Ken Starr. Judge Starr did not ask for it.

169 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:05:50am

re: #161 Fenway_Nation

I found out about the whole highway restroom thing before There’s Something About Mary came out only because I was propositioned by two men at a rest stop in southeastern Georgia when I went into the men’s toom to change out of my Army BDUs into my civillian clothes.

Everyone loves a man in uniform, fenway. ;) Or changing out of one!

*swoon*

170 SixDegrees  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:06:59am

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

If he’d lied to the press, that would be one thing. Lying under oath is quite another.

Particularly when you’re a lawyer, and certainly ought to understand the consequences of such an action.

171 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:07:12am

re: #163 austin_blue


Hmm…hate to break it to you, sport, but I wasn’t even alive in 1969.

And since I’m trying to angle myself for a career in transportation, I avoid any combination of alcohol and driving my own vehicle since the trucking companies and railways tend to look down on DUIs…especially recent ones.

I typically get good and shitfaced only when I know for sure I can get a ride home or crash at a friend’s place…

172 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:07:24am

re: #170 SixDegrees

Particularly when you’re a lawyer, and certainly ought to understand the consequences of such an action.

concur.

173 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:08:26am

re: #164 Floral Giraffe


Fare thee well, emblazoned elephant…

174 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:08:37am

re: #156 HelloDare

Clever! A link would be nice, as opposed to innuendo. Oh, and some backup links to show that the original link wasn’t bullshit.

Very helpfull!

175 SixDegrees  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:11:10am

re: #174 austin_blue

Clever! A link would be nice, as opposed to innuendo. Oh, and some backup links to show that the original link wasn’t bullshit.

Very helpfull!

There’s this thing called Google, if you’re that interested.

176 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:11:23am

re: #167 calcajun

Nice that you can so easily can condone one crime while condemning others. Interesting double standard you have there.

Now— really. Night, folks.

I see a big difference between Iran-Contra, and Watergate— vs a guy lying about a blowjob.

The first two were the nation’s business. The second just isn’t.

I could not care less what our public servants get up to in their private sexual lives (so long as it’s consensual activity). It’s none of my business. I’m not the Sex Police and I don’t think we need sex police. My opinion only.

Good night— sleep well.

177 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:13:26am

Good morning,everyone. This thread is very active for a Saturday morning (1:14 a.m. pst)

178 Syrah  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:14:22am

An employer receiving sexual favors from his employees.

Some people get upset over that kind of stuff.

Something about power relationships, intimidation, sexual harassment, …

It would seem that some get to play a different game.

179 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:14:39am

re: #177 BatGuano

Good morning,everyone. This thread is very active for a Saturday morning (1:14 a.m. pst)

Morning Bat!!

180 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:14:49am

re: #169 iceweasel

Didn’t dawn on me what happened until I got back in the truck…

Wait a sec…those guys were zipping up their trousers after walking around from behind the building…yet all the stalls were open inside…so that must mean that they were-
AUUUGHHH- LALALALALALALALALALALALALA

But that means they wanted to know if I’d go and…

LALALALALALALA! TIA CARRERA! JENNIFER TILLY! FAIRUZA BALK! SELMA HAYEK! SHIRLEY MANSON!

181 Areozol  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:14:55am

re: #150 Syrah

All that I hear about this is crickets on the left.

Do you remember the Information Awareness Office?

IAO logo is probably heating up conspiracy theories wacko’s’ minds :D

182 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:15:29am

re: #179 srb1976

Hi, srb!

183 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:16:24am

re: #171 Fenway_Nation

Hmm…hate to break it to you, sport, but I wasn’t even alive in 1969.

And since I’m trying to angle myself for a career in transportation, I avoid any combination of alcohol and driving my own vehicle since the trucking companies and railways tend to look down on DUIs…especially recent ones.

I typically get good and shitfaced only when I know for sure I can get a ride home or crash at a friend’s place…

Well, good for you. I was born in the 50’s when mom’s smoked cigarettes and drank cocktails while pregnant, drinks were served at 5:00 PM and the entire neighborhood had cookouts (military family). Your world was not Senator Kennedy’s world was it? Not mine either.

184 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:18:52am

re: #176 iceweasel

I’m not the Sex Police

Damnit!

:throws keyboard across the room:

Another evening, wasted!
/

185 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:20:30am

re: #184 Slumbering Behemoth

Damnit!

:throws keyboard across the room:

Another evening, wasted!
/

You were looking for the Sex Police? They are not nearly as much fun as the name would suggest = )

186 haakondahl  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:20:30am

re: #1 Fenway_Nation

Why am I getting a mental image of Cleopatra soaking in an opulent marble bathtub all of a sudden?

I get that image all the time.

187 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:20:56am

re: #176 iceweasel


I’m not the Sex Police

‘Up against the wall and spread ‘em!’…

188 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:22:34am

re: #186 haakondahl

I get that image all the time.

The first thing that comes to mind = )

189 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:22:45am

re: #180 Fenway_Nation

Didn’t dawn on me what happened until I got back in the truck…

Wait a sec…those guys were zipping up their trousers after walking around from behind the building…yet all the stalls were open inside…so that must mean that they were-
AUUUGHHH- LALALALALALALALALALALALALA

But that means they wanted to know if I’d go and…

LALALALALALALA! TIA CARRERA! JENNIFER TILLY! FAIRUZA BALK! SELMA HAYEK! SHIRLEY MANSON!

hahahaha… and ooo, Jennifer Tilly. ;)

I was once in a gay bar (female) with the girl I was dating (being a lib and all, I’m heteroflexible) — we were both freaked out because it was just so strange to have women blatantly appraising you and staring at you. It was really strange.

Men in uniform!

190 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:23:21am

re: #183 austin_blue

Umm…so I’m supposed to feel like a petty, vindictive dickwad because I’m holding a US Senator to the same standards I hold myself to?

Shame on me for not knowing any better…

191 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:23:48am

re: #187 Fenway_Nation

‘Up against the wall and spread ‘em!’…

Ok, that was hilarious! :)

192 HelloDare  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:25:48am

re: #160 iceweasel

Classic— and predictable— case of Republican misdirection. I knew someone would make this claim.
The perjury only came about as the result of an extended witch-hunt digging into everything possible on Clinton — real estate deals, phony sexual harassment charges, everything.

They finally hit paydirt when they found some bint willing to tape a girl who’d given the Clenis a blowjob.

And now the claim is all “It’s the perjury! the perjury!” Bullshit. Lying about a blowjob? A lot of people have done that.

BTW, my point still stands about Iran-Contra and Watergate. You can’t pretend that Dems always get a pass and Repubs never do.

Real-estate deals? Are you referring to Whitewater? Yeah that was nothing more than a witchhunt. That’s why a sitting governor was convicted and removed from office.

Ultimately the Clintons were never charged, but 14 other persons were convicted of more than 40 crimes, including Bill Clinton’s successor as Governor, who was removed from office.

* Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, removed from office (fraud, 3 counts)
* John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax fraud)
* William J. Marks Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker business partner (conspiracy)
* Stephen Smith (Whitewater): former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
* Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
* Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
* Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple fraud) Bill Clinton pardoned.
* David Hale: banker, self proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
* Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
* Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud) Bill Clinton pardoned.
* Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
* Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.

* John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
* Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
* Charles Matthews (Whitewater): Whitewater defendant (bribery)


And it wasn’t just some dumb broad who was caught on tape. Bill Clinton was. He told Monica to lie under oath. Not only that, he said he would help her. He would tell her what to say.

Clinton didn’t lie for any cause. He perjured himself and suborned purjury to save his ass. He put this country and the Presidency through hell to try and save his own ass. Over something pretty petty. How low can you get. And the thing is, he didn’t have to. If he admitted the truth when it first surfaced, nothing would have happened. Nothing happened to Gavin Newsom. Clinton has nobody to blame but himself.

Oh, and the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy meme was born on the Today Show when Hillary blamed all the Lewinsky talk on the Republicans. And the press let her keep citing the VRWC and never shoved it back in her face. All they had to do was remind her of the first time she used it. It would have had a very short life.

193 haakondahl  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:26:09am

Reagan’s missteps produced a win-win for captive Americans and embattled oppressed allies. Clinton’s actions were exclusively self-serving. That is the difference which matters to me.

194 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:27:46am

I am a gone pecan.

Adios, my friends.

We’ll visit tomorrow.

195 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:27:48am

re: #186 haakondahl

Was it this Cleopatra?

Image: 963CLE_Elizabeth_Taylor_010.jpg

Mine is.

196 Jimmah  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:27:50am

I just dinged up every post of iceweasel’s without even reading them - and I liked it.

197 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:28:31am

OH SNAP! Time for a Q&A…

Q: What did Jesus say to the Teamster Unions?

A: “Nice work folks, I like what I’m seeing so far. I gotta split for a while and catch a late supper with some friends, so y’all take a break. Don’t do anything until I get back”.

198 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:28:45am

re: #189 iceweasel

hahahaha… and ooo, Jennifer Tilly. ;)

I was once in a gay bar (female) with the girl I was dating (being a lib and all, I’m heteroflexible) — we were both freaked out because it was just so strange to have women blatantly appraising you and staring at you. It was really strange.

Men in uniform!


Even as a girl, I have to say that Jennifer Tilly is terribly under-rated (or maybe overlooked?) Better Half is a fan of hers too = )

199 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:28:54am
it was just so strange to have women blatantly appraising you and staring at you. It was really strange.

Not for me, altho’ apparently I need a giant fucking neon sign that flashes ‘She wants to take you home, Fenway!’ for anybody who’s geniuinely interested…

200 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:30:05am

re: #192 HelloDare

All that typing amounts to “We couldn’t get Clinton for anything but lying about a blowjob. Wah, Wah, Wah.”

201 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:30:11am

re: #199 Fenway_Nation

Not for me, altho’ apparently I need a giant fucking neon sign that flashes ‘She wants to take you home, Fenway!’ for anybody who’s geniuinely interested…

Most straight guys I know are just not very good at subtle hints…

202 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:30:41am

re: #194 austin_blue


What was that about a Gun Vegan?

203 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:32:41am

re: #199 Fenway_Nation

You and me both, bro, you and me both.

:hopelessly clueless:

204 HelloDare  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:34:47am

re: #174 austin_blue

Clever! A link would be nice, as opposed to innuendo. Oh, and some backup links to show that the original link wasn’t bullshit.

Very helpfull!

A link about Chappaquiddick? I think you can figure that one out yourself.
Comment #84 had a link. Here it is again.

Better yet, here it is for everybody to see hear:

205 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:35:04am

re: #201 srb1976

Why can’t a gal just hit me over the head and drag me to her cave?

/Okay, maybe that’s a bit excessive. She doesn’t actually have to drag me to her cave.

206 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:37:21am

re: #205 Slumbering Behemoth

Why can’t a gal just hit me over the head and drag me to her cave?

/Okay, maybe that’s a bit excessive. She doesn’t actually have to drag me to her cave.

I think we use the subtle hints because it rewards guys for paying attention = )

207 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:42:30am

re: #206 srb1976

I pay lots of attention, I am just too damn dense to get the subtle signals.

Sure, hours later, long after opportunity has knocked and walked away frustrated, I start to think “Hey, that just might have been a come on”.

But right in the moment? I am an idiot savant, without the savant part.

208 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:43:50am
209 HelloDare  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:44:24am

re: #200 iceweasel

All that typing amounts to “We couldn’t get Clinton for anything but lying about a blowjob. Wah, Wah, Wah.”

That’s why I love LGF. All the intelligent conversation.

210 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:48:10am

re: #196 Jimmah

I just dinged up every post of iceweasel’s without even reading them - and I liked it.


Jimmah’s been dinging me all night- and I loved it.

On the bed, on the floor,
on a towel by the door,
in the tub, in the car,
up against the mini-bar

211 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:50:45am

re: #209 HelloDare

That’s why I love LGF. All the intelligent conversation.

It’s the late night Friday Drinking Thread.

Lighten up, Francis. :)

212 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:52:30am

re: #207 Slumbering Behemoth

I was talking to this one girl within earshot of my bartender friend…the two of us were discussing the joys of growing up Catholic, and she actually had gone to Catholic school as well.

My pal seemed a little mystified that I didn’t eventually leave with her, since he was convinced that she was interested in me. I asked him why he thought that…

‘Well…when you asked her is she still had the Catholic schoolgirl uniform, instead of slapping you or throwing her drink in your face, she said

‘Why yes…I still do’

…’

213 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:53:52am

re: #212 Fenway_Nation

I was talking to this one girl within earshot of my bartender friend…the two of us were discussing the joys of growing up Catholic, and she actually had gone to Catholic school as well.

My pal seemed a little mystified that I didn’t eventually leave with her, since he was convinced that she was interested in me. I asked him why he thought that…

‘Well…when you asked her is she still had the Catholic schoolgirl uniform, instead of slapping you or throwing her drink in your face, she said

…’


Fenway…that’s not even a subtle hint!

214 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:56:23am

Speaking of Clinton and Lewinski ( I know some were), Jeffrey Toobin wrote a good account in “A Vast Conspiracy: The Real Story of the Sex Scandal That Nearly Brought Down a President (2000)”.
Toobin leans left and in this book he takes Clinton’s side and spins to make it look like the accusers, prosecutors and witnesses are part of a “Vast Conspiracy”. But if you put on your lib filters it is still a well researched ,informative account and worth the read.

215 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:57:50am

re: #213 srb1976

On the flipside, I didn’t think that line of inquiry was a slap or drink-thrown-in-my-face-worthy offense.

216 Jimmah  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:57:54am

re: #210 iceweasel

Jimmah’s been dinging me all night- and I loved it.

On the bed, on the floor,
on a towel by the door,
in the tub, in the car,
up against the mini-bar

I just never seem to tire of nailing your points down, iceweasel. :)

The pleasure and the privilege is mine :)

217 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:58:38am

re: #211 iceweasel

I love a “Stripes” reference too.

218 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 1:58:41am

re: #212 Fenway_Nation

I’ve got more than one story like that. :sigh:

re: #213 srb1976

No, it’s not. But for a dumbass like me (and apparently Fenway) that kind of thing goes right over my head when I’m in the moment.

I wonder… I also have no kind of functional gaydar what so ever. Could those two things be somehow related?

Fenway, my equally clueless brother, what say you?

219 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:02:30am

I can’t believe it…the Little Man has woken up (@4am local time) and demanded the his light be turned on…He wants to watch Horton hears a Who…at 4 am?

220 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:05:57am

re: #219 srb1976

Tell the Little Man he needs to settle down and go back to sleep before Horton Hears an Ass-Whuppin’.

/I’m kidding, I’m kidding!

221 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:06:11am

re: #218 Slumbering Behemoth

9 times out of 10 I’m usually thinking along the lines of ‘How nice- she’s humoring a doofus like me…better not read too much into it, tho’

222 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:08:20am

re: #220 Slumbering Behemoth

Tell the Little Man he needs to settle down and go back to sleep before Horton Hears an Ass-Whuppin’.

/I’m kidding, I’m kidding!

I think he a dream that woke him up…humoring him for the moment = )

223 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:08:20am

re: #216 Jimmah

I just never seem to tire of nailing your points down, iceweasel. :)

The pleasure and the privilege is mine :)

Utterly mutual, darlin’. Jimmah-ski!

224 UncleRancher  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:14:18am

g’ mornin’ lizards :-)

225 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:15:34am

re: #224 UncleRancher

g’ mornin’ lizards :-)

Mornin’!

226 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:16:20am

re: #224 UncleRancher

Good morning, Uncle.

227 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:16:21am

Tippy top o’ the mornin’ to ya, UncleRancher…

228 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:16:58am

re: #221 Fenway_Nation

Too bad we don’t live near each other, we could make a great “Wingman” team.

“Two doofuses (doofi?). They have enough game to gain the interest a woman, yet just like 7-11, they never close.

Separately, they couldn’t get laid at porn convention on the day that both AIDS and herpes were cured. Together, they will run through women like a bum runs through matches.

This Fall, on Fox, ‘Fenway and The Behemoth’”.

229 UncleRancher  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:17:52am

What’s happnin’ out there in the wide wide world of sports this mornin’?

230 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:19:23am

re: #222 srb1976

Good luck to ya. Raising little ones can be tough.

231 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:19:41am

re: #228 Slumbering Behemoth

Separately, they couldn’t get laid at porn convention on the day that both AIDS and herpes were cured.

Also would’ve accepted ‘Couldn’t get laid if they walked through a women’s prison with a bag full of pardons’

232 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:20:17am

Looks like our puppy gets her stitches out next week…we have high hopes that she will be able to see out of her injured eye (yay Spokes)

233 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:22:51am

re: #229 UncleRancher

I guess you must have missed my previous update.

234 UncleRancher  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:23:12am

He messed it up. He said “what’s a girl like you doing in a nice place like this?” She started to smile, then it hit her. She turned on her heal and walked away.

235 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:24:26am

Now playing on XM 44

Ashes to Ashes- David Bowie

[Gold Mine for The Venture Bros. writers]

236 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:24:59am

re: #228 Slumbering Behemoth

Too bad we don’t live near each other, we could make a great “Wingman” team.

“Two doofuses (doofi?). They have enough game to gain the interest a woman, yet just like 7-11, they never close.

Separately, they couldn’t get laid at porn convention on the day that both AIDS and herpes were cured. Together, they will run through women like a bum runs through matches.

This Fall, on Fox, ‘Fenway and The Behemoth’”.

I would watch that show…mostly just to laugh and point, but I would watch = )

237 UncleRancher  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:25:45am

re: #233 Slumbering Behemoth

Yep, I missed that one. Thanks for the update.

238 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:27:18am

re: #231 Fenway_Nation

I don’t type “LOL”, because who really Laughs Out Loud when reading something on the internet, even when it is funny? I usually just type “Ha!”

‘Couldn’t get laid if they walked through a women’s prison with a bag full of pardons’

Never heard that one before. I actually did LOL.

239 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:27:54am

re: #236 srb1976

I’m picturing Cliff Clavin and Norm on the make. :)

240 UncleRancher  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:29:03am

re: #222 srb1976

I think he a dream that woke him up…humoring him for the moment = )

More than once some strange noise outside would give all the kids the heebiejeebies and they ALL 5 come and piled into bed with us.

241 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:29:48am

re: #236 srb1976

I WAS IN THE POOL! I WAS IN THE POOL!

re: #239 BatGuano

Totally uncool, you jerk! I don’t look anything like Cliff Clavin!
///

242 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:31:05am

re: #240 UncleRancher

More than once some strange noise outside would give all the kids the heebiejeebies and they ALL 5 come and piled into bed with us.

Yikes…sounds crowded = ). Little Man has never jumped in bed with us in the middle of the night…odd, but he doesn’t like our room…he much prefers being allowed to crash on the couch, usually with me there with him = ).
Funny kid, but very sweet!

243 Jimmah  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:31:07am

re: #223 iceweasel

Utterly mutual, darlin’. Jimmah-ski!


From me to you Iceweaselski :)

244 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:32:11am

For some reason, I’m remembering The Simpsons where Homer runs afoul of Moe for whatever reason and is looking around for a new bar to hang out at…and winds up at a lesbian bar with thumping techno music and lasers. It shows him sitting at the bar for a few moments ponering cluelessly ‘There’s something different about this bar, but I’m not sure what exactly…’ before he realizes “Aha! This lesbian bar has no fire exit! Enjoy your deathtrap, ladies…”

Two lesbian patrons at the bar watch Homer leave in a huff and ask ‘What’s her problem?’

245 UncleRancher  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:36:32am

re: #242 srb1976

Yikes…sounds crowded = ). Little Man has never jumped in bed with us in the middle of the night…odd, but he doesn’t like our room…he much prefers being allowed to crash on the couch, usually with me there with him = ).
Funny kid, but very sweet!

Treasure every moment. My youngest is 12 now. Every day they get more independent and pretty soon they’re out on their own adventures.

246 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:37:40am

Thanks alot, Morrisey…I never did find out How Soon is Now.
/

247 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:38:03am

re: #243 Jimmah

From me to you Iceweaselski :)

It’s Friday, Comrade! or was… ;)

248 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:43:19am

Mark my words, some network exec is reading this right now…

re: #228 Slumbering Behemoth

… and thinking of all the comedy writers out there desperate enough for a pay check to write such an asinine sit com. Look for a trite and overworked re-tread of an “Odd Couple” theme, with a hackneyed “Fish Out of Water” sub-theme.

You heard it here first, Lizards.

249 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:45:18am

re: #238 Slumbering Behemoth

I don’t type “LOL”, because who really Laughs Out Loud when reading something on the internet, even when it is funny? I usually just type “Ha!”


Never heard that one before. I actually did LOL.

That was a byproduct of a variation of a ‘Yo mama’ fight when I was a bored young E-3 in the Army waiting for a truck to load up. That wasn’t even one of the better ones, but just about the only one I could remember that didn’t involve some sort of necrophilia reference.

250 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:47:41am

re: #247 iceweasel

Comrade? You all heard it! What a giveaway! You all saw it didn’t you?

My favorite Friday song.

251 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:48:02am

re: #246 Fenway_Nation

Did someone mention Morrisey?

252 UncleRancher  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:49:37am

Something a little different:

253 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:56:43am

re: #250 BatGuano

Comrade? You all heard it! What a giveaway! You all saw it didn’t you?

My favorite Friday song.

{Bat!}
I love, love, love Bowie. And that song! Never knew Bowie covered it. Fantastic.

Other lovely Bowie:

254 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:57:06am

re: #249 Fenway_Nation

Oh, so now it’s all about Ya Mama, is it?

Ya mama is so ugly, she walked into a haunted house and came out with a pay check.

I also like the absurd and improbable:

Ya mama is so fat, she jumped up into the air and got stuck.

255 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 2:58:38am

Good Morning Lizards…
What was that song?…oh what a night!
I can’t sleep…How is everyone?

256 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:00:11am

re: #255 HoosierHoops

Mornin’ Hoops…sorry you can’t sleep (seems like no one here can…except better half)
Haw ya doin?

257 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:00:40am

re: #256 srb1976

Mornin’ Hoops…sorry you can’t sleep (seems like no one here can…except better half)
Haw ya doin?

or, ya know, HOW ya doin’?

258 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:01:33am

re: #257 srb1976

or, ya know, HOW ya doin’?

Hey you! How is that beautiful baby doing this morning?

259 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:02:05am

re: #248 Slumbering Behemoth

Don’t forget the two unbelievably hot supporting actresses who would play our strictly platonic friends

260 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:05:53am

re: #258 HoosierHoops

Hey you! How is that beautiful baby doing this morning?

She’s doing very well…(we’re getting ready for birthdays for both kids in the next month)

How’s everyone in your world? Keeping in touch I hope?

261 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:06:47am

re: #254 Slumbering Behemoth

‘Your mother is so ugly…it severely effects her self-esteem.’

Hank Hill- King of The Hill

262 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:09:24am

I just got kicked off the interwebs. Weird.

263 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:10:40am

re: #260 srb1976

She’s doing very well…(we’re getting ready for birthdays for both kids in the next month)

How’s everyone in your world? Keeping in touch I hope?

We had a coming home party for our Son who came home from the marines last night at the local pub…The bar closed over 3 hours ago…When I drink I go high energy…Can’t sleep…In a couple of hours I’ll jump in the pool and sober up..until then…I’m this mornings entertainment

264 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:12:09am

re: #259 Fenway_Nation

Wait and see, this will be yet another short lived sitcom on Fox. And we’re doing all their work, pro bono.

265 wahabicorridor  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:13:00am

HOOPS!

And a good time was had by all, I’m sure.

*mwah*

266 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:13:35am

re: #262 BatGuano

I just got kicked off the interwebs. Weird.

And yet you are here. Doubly weird…

HE’S A WITCH! MAKE A BRIDGE OUTTA HIM!

267 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:13:40am

You came in the plane? You call parking a supersonic jet in front of a titty-bar inconspicuous?! Who taught you to be a spy, fucking Gallagher!?!

[Former] Col. Hunter Gathers- The Venture Bros.

___

I think I put that one up there before, but since I’m quoting different animated shows, I figured ‘What the hell…?’

268 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:13:54am

re: #263 HoosierHoops

We had a coming home party for our Son who came home from the marines last night at the local pub…The bar closed over 3 hours ago…When I drink I go high energy…Can’t sleep…In a couple of hours I’ll jump in the pool and sober up..until then…I’m this mornings entertainment

I didn’t know he was home…Congrats to you and yours…bet it was a great party!!

269 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:16:13am

re: #267 Fenway_Nation

Is there an online source for this watching show? Sounds damn funny.

270 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:16:17am

re: #266 Slumbering Behemoth

I get knocked down, but I get up again!
Wait,that doesn’t help my case does it?

271 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:17:01am

re: #268 srb1976

I didn’t know he was home…Congrats to you and yours…bet it was a great party!!

He got home Thursday at 4pm… Forever! We am very proud of him…

272 Jimmah  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:17:09am

re: #247 iceweasel

It’s Friday, Comrade! or was… ;)

Drink in your eyes
Drink in your sighs
Grass in my thighs my aching legs

273 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:19:16am

re: #253 iceweasel

I finally saw him at the Shark Tank in San Jose, January 2004. Very good show. He began with, ” Rebel, Rebel”. Got everyone’s attention, fast.

274 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:19:29am

re: #271 HoosierHoops

He got home Thursday at 4pm… Forever! We am very proud of him…

Wow, good to hear! That makes it a great week all by itself!

275 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:21:13am

Keeping with the theme that yes..The hoopster is this morning entertainment.
At 4am I watched my favorite Rap movie on MTV.. Hustle and Flow..
I had to laugh so hard…Everytime Howard would show a bag of pot MTV blurred it out..It’s like what? You blur out a bag of pot? Everybody knows its a fricking bag of pot…What do you gain from blurring it out? It’s MTV for Gawd sake…

276 haakondahl  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:21:44am

re: #228 Slumbering Behemoth

Too bad we don’t live near each other, we could make a great “Wingman” team.

“Two doofuses (doofi?). They have enough game to gain the interest a woman, yet just like 7-11, they never close.

Separately, they couldn’t get laid at porn convention on the day that both AIDS and herpes were cured. Together, they will run through women like a bum runs through matches.

This Fall, on Fox, ‘Fenway and The Behemoth’”.

Unfortunately, it will never be arranged, as they couldn’t arrange a gang rape in a gay prison.

277 rwdflynavy  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:22:32am

re: #132 iceweasel

Oh right. I forgot. The republicans are good and innocent and unfairly victimised, and the Democrats are eeevil. And somehow it’s the Democrats who ‘get away’ with everything, never a republican.

remind me again— what were the party affiliations of the POTUS who skated on Iran-Contra, and the one who got a pardon for Watergate?

And who got impeached for a blowjob?

Yeah, filthy trickse libs are always getting away with stuff. Right.

If you think Clinton was impeached for a blow job you need to go read the real history.

I think you know why he was really impeached and are being disingenuous.

278 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:23:07am

re: #269 Slumbering Behemoth

It is fucking hilarious, Slumbering.

I don’t know an online source for watching it, but it’s showing in re-runs from Season 1 on Cartoon Network’s Adult Swim weeknights…

279 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:24:06am

re: #263 HoosierHoops

Hoosier, sorry I missed this post earlier.Great news. I know you are proud and happy!

280 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:24:43am

re: #271 HoosierHoops

Your kid is back, safe and sound? Many beers flow in The House of The Behemoth. What a joy for you and yours. Offer my thanks.

281 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:26:34am

re: #271 HoosierHoops

Congrats!

/I’m more of a lethargic/sleepy drunk,

282 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:27:00am

re: #259 Fenway_Nation

Don’t forget the two unbelievably hot supporting actresses who would play our strictly platonic friends

Obviously, that would be me and srb. Duh. :)

283 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:27:27am

re: #276 haakondahl

Ease up, weirdo. We’re talking about a fictional sitcom, not your tortured version of a TOOL video. Get some help, dude.
/

284 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:29:12am

re: #281 Fenway_Nation

Congrats!

/I’m more of a lethargic/sleepy drunk,

I go high energy…I wonder why…Maybe It’s the dancing…

285 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:29:53am

re: #282 iceweasel

Obviously, that would be me and srb. Duh. :)

good morning Ice..Hope today finds you well

286 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:30:02am

re: #282 iceweasel

Can’t your arms lift a club? Pound me a clue, will ya!

287 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:30:12am

re: #282 iceweasel

Obviously, that would be me and srb. Duh. :)

= )

288 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:31:38am

re: #282 iceweasel

Casting couch is a different story, Glacies

/giggity

289 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:32:13am

re: #278 Fenway_Nation

:sigh:

Alas, I abstain from paying for television. I have not had a cable feed for over fifteen years.

290 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:32:24am

re: #272 Jimmah

Drink in your eyes
Drink in your sighs
Grass in my thighs my aching legs

People will say we’re in love!

291 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:34:27am

re: #290 iceweasel

Awk-ward…

292 Jimmah  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:34:36am

Black Grape - Get Higher

Heh - “Nancy and I have been abusing marijuana on a daily basis”

293 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:37:27am

re: #290 iceweasel

I heard “Silence of the Lambs” was scary. I like a good love story!

294 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:38:36am

Well lizards…time for me to take me and my woeful tales of near-misses to bed…

G’nite!

295 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:39:00am

re: #293 BatGuano

I heard “Silence of the Lambs” was scary. I like a good love story!

It puts the lotion on the skin..
/Creepy shit

296 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:39:08am

re: #294 Fenway_Nation

Well lizards…time for me to take me and my woeful tales of near-misses to bed…

G’nite!

Nite Fenway…

297 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:39:42am

re: #294 Fenway_Nation

Well lizards…time for me to take me and my woeful tales of near-misses to bed…

G’nite!

sleep well…

298 UncleRancher  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:39:52am

‘Nite Fenway. Railroad dreams to you.

299 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:40:02am

re: #294 Fenway_Nation

Good night, Clif… Fenway!

300 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:40:29am

re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth

Awk-ward…

Awe-some. Upding!

My fave recut movie trailer is Brokeback to the Future.

I assume people have seen it, though…

301 Jimmah  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:41:01am

re: #290 iceweasel

People will say we’re in love!

They can say what they want (they always do!)

302 UncleRancher  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:42:33am

Yon bed is beckoning. Keep a steady strain on it for us.

*Yawn*

303 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:44:09am

re: #295 HoosierHoops

Ted Levine was scary in that movie as “Buffalo Bill”. I wish Anthony Hopkins had read Red Dragon and Silence of the lambs so he play the character properly.

304 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:46:08am

re: #295 HoosierHoops

Indeed.

305 Jimmah  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:47:00am

This is awesome.

Dean le Sac vs Scroobius Pip - Letter from God

306 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:51:22am

re: #303 BatGuano

Ted Levine was scary in that movie as “Buffalo Bill”. I wish Anthony Hopkins had read Red Dragon and Silence of the lambs so he play the character properly.

I am still blown away by Heath Ledger’s part as the Joker in the Dark Knight..
Genius and tragic…
/I love the line…Why so serious? When he sticks the knife in that dudes mouth…All time classic creepy scene…

307 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:53:22am

re: #306 HoosierHoops

I’m ashamed to say I haven’t seen Dark Knight,
It goes in my netflix cue this very night.

308 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:53:32am

re: #305 Jimmah

The evolution of the text written on the note pad is quite interesting.

/imsuchastinker

309 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:56:12am

re: #307 BatGuano

I heard Ledger (r.i.p) was great in it.

310 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:57:20am

re: #307 BatGuano

I’m ashamed to say I haven’t seen Dark Knight,
It goes in my netflix cue this very night.

I hate batman/superman/summer hit movies…
I was frigging blown away… I reviewed the movie here several months ago..I normally do 1 movie review every Saturday…
I have never seen such ballsy acting…Now we know that poor Heath had demons and wasn’t acting…There are cut to the bone scenes by him in a fucking Batman movie…I watched the movie 3 times…5 star
RIP Heath

311 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:57:49am

re: #306 HoosierHoops

I am still blown away by Heath Ledger’s part as the Joker in the Dark Knight..
Genius and tragic…
/I love the line…Why so serious? When he sticks the knife in that dudes mouth…All time classic creepy scene…

Hey Sir Hoops-a-lot! :)

Totally agree with you. Dark Knight is an amazing movie. Can’t believe how much it blew me away.

Also, I would argue that it’s a profoundly serious movie. Many deep themes and questions.
I loved it. Very difficult to watch, in places. But vastly more than ‘a comic book movie’ or whatever.

312 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:59:27am

re: #310 HoosierHoops

Thanks, Hoosier; that seals it!

313 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:02:34am

re: #311 iceweasel

Hey Sir Hoops-a-lot! :)

Totally agree with you. Dark Knight is an amazing movie. Can’t believe how much it blew me away.

Also, I would argue that it’s a profoundly serious movie. Many deep themes and questions.
I loved it. Very difficult to watch, in places. But vastly more than ‘a comic book movie’ or whatever.

Good morning Ice…
It is one of those comic book movies…Big summer hits…
And you are dead on…There was some serious shit going down in that movie…I only watched it because Heath was in it…
There was alot of cool stuff in that movie

314 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:07:12am

re: #311 iceweasel

Remember that scene with Heath walks out of the Hospital in a nurses outfit blowing the joint up and his clicker wacks out?
Name one person on the face of the Earth that could pull that off…
The comedy he showed while he was trying to blow a hospital up was pure genius…I’m giggling just remembering that scene

315 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:08:44am

re: #313 HoosierHoops

Good morning Ice…
It is one of those comic book movies…Big summer hits…
And you are dead on…There was some serious shit going down in that movie…I only watched it because Heath was in it…
There was alot of cool stuff in that movie

Extremely cool. And like you, I normally do avoid or not like a lot of the big summer blockbusters…but this one was very different, very thought-provoking. And I was amazed because everyone had raved about Heath Ledger’s performance— and if anything, they sold him short. Mindblowing.

I do wonder sometimes if maybe his experience of prepping for that role played a part in his death.

316 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:10:04am

re: #314 HoosierHoops

Remember that scene with Heath walks out of the Hospital in a nurses outfit blowing the joint up and his clicker wacks out?
Name one person on the face of the Earth that could pull that off…
The comedy he showed while he was trying to blow a hospital up was pure genius…I’m giggling just remembering that scene

yes! Purest blackest comedy. Both funny and horrific, anarchic. Brilliant!

317 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:15:17am

I hate onions

318 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:16:01am

re: #317 BatGuano

I hate onions

why?

319 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:17:08am

re: #316 iceweasel

yes! Purest blackest comedy. Both funny and horrific, anarchic. Brilliant!

just genius acting…
I usually do a movie review every saturday… in a while I’ll jump in the pool, Have breakfast and pick a movie to watch and review it here…
/I’m glad you are still here…I know it must be hard sometimes…

320 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:22:32am

re: #318 srb1976

Well, they burn my mouth and they over power everything they come into contact with. As a matter of fact, I can’t swallow them anymore because I have had to eat them at all of my relatives houses because they put onions in everything including tuna sandwiches.If someone serves me onions at a social gathering, I have to spit them out into a napkin or on my neighbor. I can’t swallow them anymore because my throat constricts and I gag.

321 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:22:51am

Hey President Wee wee, enjoying your vacation?

Reading that 1,000 page health care reform bill on the beach?

Don’t get sunburned now.

Oops, insensitive comment

322 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:25:22am

re: #320 BatGuano

Furthermore, why do these TV chefs take something with as delicate a flavor as shrimp and cook it with white onion?

323 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:25:47am

re: #320 BatGuano

Well, they burn my mouth and they over power everything they come into contact with. As a matter of fact, I can’t swallow them anymore because I have had to eat them at all of my relatives houses because they put onions in everything including tuna sandwiches.If someone serves me onions at a social gathering, I have to spit them out into a napkin or on my neighbor. I can’t swallow them anymore because my throat constricts and I gag.

Wow, that sucks! i tend to prefer cooked onions to raw ones (with a few exceptions) It seems to mellow out the flavor a bit

324 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:25:58am

re: #321 Ojoe

Obama doesn’t need to read the Bill.. It was written years ago by lawyers.
A thousand page bill doesn’t just appear out of nowhere…I think a lot of it was on background for a long time

325 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:26:32am

re: #313 HoosierHoops

Wasn’t the guy on the boat who had been in prison who came through morally at the end?

My kids watched it at home, too many explosions I thought but yes the movie said some real things.

326 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:26:51am

BTW— sorry to get political here for a sec, but you know those Obama Joker posters?
My position was that I didn’t like them — exactly like I didn’t like nasty pics of Bush or pics of McCain showing him as a vampire. They’re all ugly and crass. I would never censor them, but I just dislike them and think they set a really nasty tone.

I didn’t think the Obama Joker picture was racist, just ugly. I didn’t hate it more than I did the ugly pics of Bush and Cheney, and I didn’t think it was racist. Check this out— it talks about the Dark Knight and also the prior Batman movies, and has a take on the difference.

This op-ed in the WaPo made me think a little differently about whether the poster was racist:

The new Obama poster has two basic thrusts. Obama is a socialist, or a crypto-socialist. And Obama is somehow like the Joker, unpredictable and dangerous. But joining these two messages together yields more questions and contradictions than good poster art can sustain. The Joker is violent and dangerous, but a socialist? And didn’t we see George W. Bush depicted as the Joker not so long ago?

Yes, in an image by Drew Friedman published online by Vanity Fair on July 29, 2008. That drawing at least played into a view of Bush popular among his detractors, that the former president was unpredictable and fast on the draw when it came to geopolitics. But the danger many of Obama’s detractors detect is more of calculating, long-standing deception, that he is quietly and secretly marshaling a socialist agenda, a view that would be better served by imagery that recalled “The Manchurian Candidate.”

(snip)

So why the anonymity? Perhaps because the poster is ultimately a racially charged image. By using the “urban” makeup of the Heath Ledger Joker, instead of the urbane makeup of the Jack Nicholson character, the poster connects Obama to something many of his detractors fear but can’t openly discuss. He is black and he is identified with the inner city, a source of political instability in the 1960s and ’70s, and a lingering bogeyman in political consciousness despite falling crime rates.

I’m not saying the poster is racist. I really haven’t figured out how I feel about that. I never liked it, and I never liked the ugly images of Bush etc either…but this op-ed did make me think a little differently, and help me to clarify why I think the Obama poster is so ugly.

And I think the contrast between the Jack Nicholson Joker character, and the Heath Ledger Joker, is incredible. Only one of those could have been made after 9/11, IMO. The Ledger Joker is a creature of the times and of Gotham post-9/11, IMO.

327 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:27:28am

re: #324 HoosierHoops

Yes, then Mr. Obama just serves it up, he has a pretty light conception of his responsibilities I think.

328 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:29:17am

re: #326 iceweasel

I did not like the derogatory poster of Obama at all, it is bad for the country in exactly the same way as the derogatory pictures of Bush.

329 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:30:13am

re: #319 HoosierHoops

just genius acting…
I usually do a movie review every saturday… in a while I’ll jump in the pool, Have breakfast and pick a movie to watch and review it here…
/I’m glad you are still here…I know it must be hard sometimes…

Link me to your original review, sweetheart. You know I’d love it. ;)

I’m glad to be here and I’m still here because of all the cool folk like you. Makes it easy, not hard.
{hoops}

PS will be emailing you soon.

330 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:30:51am

re: #327 Ojoe

Yes, then Mr. Obama just serves it up, he has a pretty light conception of his responsibilities I think.

It’s like Cap and Trade.. Anybody that doesn’t think that Dems were sitting in offices for the last 5 years working it out is crazy…That bill went through Committee faster than Danica at Indy…

331 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:31:21am

re: #328 Ojoe

I did not like the derogatory poster of Obama at all, it is bad for the country in exactly the same way as the derogatory pictures of Bush.

Completely agree. Hated both. Same reasons. Bad for the country, bad for the discourse.

And just crass and tacky.

332 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:31:27am

re: #330 HoosierHoops

Mmmm…Danica.

333 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:32:19am

BBL

334 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:33:46am

re: #326 iceweasel

Poster not good:Agreed. Don’t know if it’s racist. That determination is above my pay grade.

335 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:34:11am

re: #332 BatGuano

Mmmm…Danica.

I met her at the track..Tiny little thing..She is cute…Very Competitive…

336 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:35:03am

re: #331 iceweasel

Completely agree. Hated both. Same reasons. Bad for the country, bad for the discourse.

And just crass and tacky.

Crass and tacky I’ll buy, but not everything critical of Obama is racist. At this point, the term is nearly worthless. You’re racist for not wanting socialized medicine, you’re racist for not voting for Obama, you’re racist for (insert latest sin here)…the complaint is becoming worthless and is being made so by the people who INSIST that every disagreement with the man is somehow based on his race, no matter how convoluted the reasoning has to get to make it look that way.

337 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:35:45am

re: #320 BatGuano

Sorry, srb: My head did spin 360.

338 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:36:41am

re: #337 BatGuano

Sorry, srb: My head did spin 360.

= )

339 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:37:16am

re: #337 BatGuano

Sorry, srb: My head did spin 360.

Uh ho…Does this mean the projectile vomiting of pea soup is up on deck?
/

340 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:42:42am

re: #339 HoosierHoops

No, Dammit! Just stop putting fucking onions in everything! Can’t you understand I am a people person! If I am projectile vomiting it is onions that someone has put in the lasagna! Onions in lasagna! You people make me stink.

341 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:44:20am

re: #340 BatGuano

No, Dammit! Just stop putting fucking onions in everything! Can’t you understand I am a people person! If I am projectile vomiting it is onions that someone has put in the lasagna! Onions in lasagna! You people make me stink.

{quietly laughing as I cut up onions to sabotage Bat’s food}

342 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:45:52am

Well..I said when Jordan was out of the Marines I was changing my Avatar from 1st platoon to my Dog in the swimming pool…This is a test

343 iceweasel  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:47:17am

re: #336 srb1976

Crass and tacky I’ll buy, but not everything critical of Obama is racist. At this point, the term is nearly worthless. You’re racist for not wanting socialized medicine, you’re racist for not voting for Obama, you’re racist for (insert latest sin here)…the complaint is becoming worthless and is being made so by the people who INSIST that every disagreement with the man is somehow based on his race, no matter how convoluted the reasoning has to get to make it look that way.

I agree with you completely. I was biased against thinking those posters were racist— because that charge is being made all the time and with no evidence.

I started out thinking they weren’t racist, and being very cynical like “oh yeah all criticisms of Obama are racist, yeah right’.

That oped did make me stop and say, huh. That’s all. Still haven’t made up my mind on it. I think it’s worth reading. I’d recommend it.

I have loads of criticisms of Obama myself. And I’m really sick of everyone saying “you’re a racist” if you criticise him…

344 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:47:38am

re: #341 srb1976

Well, If you served them, I might eat them.:)

345 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:47:56am

re: #342 HoosierHoops

Well..I said when Jordan was out of the Marines I was changing my Avatar from 1st platoon to my Dog in the swimming pool…This is a test

Cute dog!…it still looks like marines on the page, but if you click it, you get dog and cat in swimming pool

346 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:50:06am

re: #344 BatGuano

Well, If you served them, I might eat them.:)

I am one of those “onions in everything” people, but better half hates them too, so I’m learning to tone it down…some things need them though…runzas, tamale pie, hamburger stroganoff…all no good without onions…sorry = )

347 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:50:36am

re: #345 srb1976

Cute dog!…it still looks like marines on the page, but if you click it, you get dog and cat in swimming pool

Thank you…Life tastes very sweet today…I’m going swimming now..
Love you lizards

348 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:52:23am

re: #335 HoosierHoops

I met her at the track..Tiny little thing..She is cute…Very Competitive…

Did you tell her about me? You know she’s probably interested in Bat Guano. right?

349 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:52:59am

re: #348 BatGuano

Did you tell her about me? You know she’s probably interested in Bat Guano. right?

After all…who isn’t = )

350 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:53:02am

re: #347 HoosierHoops

Good night, Hooser!

351 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:53:26am

re: #349 srb1976

Exactly!

352 3 wood  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 4:58:51am

Good morning.

I’ve had enough already of the 24/7 worship of the Late Senator Kennedy by the MSM. This is a good day to get caught up on the Honey-do list.

353 3 wood  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:00:54am

2009 bank-failure tally climbs to 84

Three more banks were closed by regulators Friday, bringing the 2009 toll to 84.

The largest of Friday’s three closures announced by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. was Affinity Bank, based in Ventura, Calif.

Affinity, which had total assets of $1 billion, deposits of $922 million and 10 branches in Northern and Southern California as of July 10, will be taken over by San Diego-based Pacific Western Bank, the FDIC announced.

The FDIC said former Affinity branch offices in San Francisco and San Mateo will be-open Saturday and the rest will re-open on Sunday.

The FDIC said it and Pacific Western entered into a loss-share transaction of approximately $934 million of Affinity Bank’s assets.

The federal agency estimated the cost to the Deposit Insurance Fund at $254 million.

Earlier Friday, regulars closed Baltimore-based Bradford Bank and Forest Lake, Minn.-based Mainstreet Bank.

354 opnion  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:04:29am

re: #352 3 wood

Good morning.

I’ve had enough already of the 24/7 worship of the Late Senator Kennedy by the MSM. This is a good day to get caught up on the Honey-do list.

Good Morning 3 Wood & all here. Yeah, the Kennedy thing has gone way over the top.
It is time to be respectful, but people are pushing the envelope, odes to his character & we owe it to his memory to support a dog of a health care bill.
There is speculation that BHO will make the case for health reform during his eulogy.

355 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:08:11am

re: #354 opnion

Good Morning 3 Wood & all here. Yeah, the Kennedy thing has gone way over the top.
It is time to be respectful, but people are pushing the envelope, odes to his character & we owe it to his memory to support a dog of a health care bill.
There is speculation that BHO will make the case for health reform during his eulogy.

Now that would be both crass and tacky…there’s a time and place for everything but a eulogy is NOT the time or place for political speeches

356 opnion  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:11:28am

re: #355 srb1976

Now that would be both crass and tacky…there’s a time and place for everything but a eulogy is NOT the time or place for political speeches

David Gerghen did the speculation & want’s Obama to exploit the death of Teddy.
Joeseph Kennedy was trying to show what a regular guy Uncle Teddy was, so he told yachting stories. That will convince the tired huddled masses.

357 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:12:20am

re: #346 srb1976

When I was nine, my mom knew I hated onions. She made spaghetti one night and I could see that translucent evil in the spaghetti sauce. I said,” Why did you put onions in that!”
My Mom, said, ” You cain’t taste ‘em.”

I said, “Then why did you put them in there?”
she said, “For flavor.”
Oy!

358 3 wood  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:16:35am

re: #354 opnion

There is speculation that BHO will make the case for health reform during his eulogy.

I would count on it.

359 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:18:09am

re: #356 opnion

GERGEN: Anderson, as much as his friends would like to see it, right now, I — I don’t.

I think it’s — I think that Senator Kennedy’s presence was missed in the last few weeks. I think he — we would be much closer, as John McCain has said, to a bipartisan agreement had he been there to help negotiate that. And now there are Democrats who will want to rally around.

But I don’t see much evidence of Republicans coming around. The divisions in the country remain very deep. Town halls just in the last couple days have continued to be highly contentious. I — and I — I do think there’s a window for President Obama to rally Democrats. And — and he can begin doing that a little bit in his — in his eulogy on Saturday. But, most importantly, when President Obama comes back to Washington, he’s got a small window to rally Democrats in the name of Teddy Kennedy. And maybe he can move it.

But I don’t see the country moving his way. I think it’s going to be up to President Obama to assert his leadership.

Link to transcript

360 3 wood  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:19:05am

re: #356 opnion

Joeseph Kennedy was trying to show what a regular guy Uncle Teddy was, so he told yachting stories. That will convince the tired huddled masses.

I remember the photos being published of him cavorting on a yacht with some woman (not his them wife Joan) and obviously getting ready to do what someone else referred to as “offshore drilling”.

Think they will talk about that at his funeral?

361 srb1976  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:19:51am

re: #357 BatGuano

When I was nine, my mom knew I hated onions. She made spaghetti one night and I could see that translucent evil in the spaghetti sauce. I said,” Why did you put onions in that!”
My Mom, said, ” You cain’t taste ‘em.”

I said, “Then why did you put them in there?”
she said, “For flavor.”
Oy!

Of course! Makes perfect sense…mom logic = )

362 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:22:06am

re: #358 3 wood

“You can count on it” is in BHO’s “Magic 8 Ball”.

363 opnion  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:22:56am

re: #358 3 wood

I would count on it.

If he does, I think that it is a mistake, BHO is buring up crediblitiy.
Senator Kennedy is not a nationally revered figure, his cred was in Blue States.
Teddy unlike JFK is not a martyr. As tragic as his death is, he died of natural causes.
THe whole Wellstone memeorial turned into a pep rally/ hate fest & backfired.

364 SixDegrees  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:23:08am

re: #354 opnion

Good Morning 3 Wood & all here. Yeah, the Kennedy thing has gone way over the top.
It is time to be respectful, but people are pushing the envelope, odes to his character & we owe it to his memory to support a dog of a health care bill.
There is speculation that BHO will make the case for health reform during his eulogy.

I’m sure it’ll be mentioned; it was one of Kennedy’s pet projects. But outright pitching would be crude and tasteless in the extreme.

Not that that’s going to stop him from doing it, of course.

365 irish rose  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:24:21am

Good morning, lizards.
It’s a gray, damp, cool morning here along the Lake Michigan shoreline but I’m in a good mood… my Marine is home on leave, and enjoying the jacket weather. I’ve got homemade cinnamon rolls in the oven, and a cup of hazelnut coffee in my hand.

Life is good.

366 3 wood  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:24:33am

With 14.5 million people out of work, the UAW is resisting further concessions:

Ford Said to Work to Bridge Gap With UAW Opposing Concessions


Aug. 29 (Bloomberg) — Ford Motor Co., seeking labor concessions granted to U.S. rivals, is working to bridge a gap with the United Auto Workers amid union resistance to a second round of 2009 givebacks, people familiar with the talks said.

Ford’s labor chief, Joe Hinrichs, was told by UAW officials when bargaining began on Aug. 25 that members would reject further concessions, said two of the people, who asked not to be identified because the sessions are private. Senior negotiators held a daylong meeting yesterday, a third person said.

“Their differences are significant and difficult, but they’re talking,” said Harley Shaiken, labor professor at the University of California at Berkeley. “A long discussion means you have something to talk about; stalemates tend to be short.”

Ford, the only U.S. automaker to avoid bankruptcy, is trying for parity in labor costs with General Motors Co. and Chrysler Group LLC.

To help those companies restructure, the UAW agreed to a six-year pay freeze for entry-level employees, a no- strike accord until 2015 and fewer union job classifications.

The UAW has been reluctant to grant more concessions to Dearborn, Michigan-based Ford after a March accord to give up annual bonuses and cost-of-living increases and accept reduced layoff benefits.

The company said the changes will produce $500 million in annual labor savings.

367 opnion  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:24:55am

re: #364 SixDegrees

I’m sure it’ll be mentioned; it was one of Kennedy’s pet projects. But outright pitching would be crude and tasteless in the extreme.

Not that that’s going to stop him from doing it, of course.


If Obama does use the death of Kennedy to advance the ball, he had better be tasteful & that will require a teleprmpter.

368 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:27:41am

re: #365 irish rose

Good morning, lizards.
It’s a gray, damp, cool morning here along the Lake Michigan shoreline but I’m in a good mood… my Marine is home on leave, and enjoying the jacket weather. I’ve got homemade cinnamon rolls in the oven, and a cup of hazelnut coffee in my hand.

Life is good.

It sounds as if life is very good!
Glad to hear it.

369 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:28:02am

re: #365 irish rose

That is wonderful, Irish, Enjoy.

370 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:31:33am

re: #366 3 wood

I wonder if Government Motors has asked the union to make things difficult for their main competitor.

371 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:34:46am

re: #370 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wonder if Government Motors has asked the union to make things difficult for their main competitor.

The Japanese ?

Top Ten Cash-for-Clunkers vehicles.

372 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:36:40am

re: #371 SasquatchOnSteroids

I’ve always said the federal government should do something to help foreign car manufacturers.

373 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:37:34am

re: #372 BatGuano

I’ve always said the federal government should do something to help foreign car manufacturers.

It appears you’ve gotten your wish.

374 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:37:45am

re: #372 BatGuano

Insert sarc, please,

375 opnion  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:41:44am

Representative Diane Watson (D) California claimed thet BHO is a Kenyan/Kansan at a Town Hall yesterday.
She then went on to praise Castro & Che Guevera,.
Her version of history is that Che led the revolution & after winning selected Castro to run things.
This woman has a staff & actually gets to introduce & vote on legislation.

376 yesandno  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:43:37am

re: #375 opnion

Unfortunately, there are more like her…

377 BatGuano  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:45:13am

Good night, lizards: The last best hope for mankind.

378 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:47:34am

re: #375 opnion

Representative Diane Watson (D) California claimed thet BHO is a Kenyan/Kansan at a Town Hall yesterday.
She then went on to praise Castro & Che Guevera,.
Her version of history is that Che led the revolution & after winning selected Castro to run things.
This woman has a staff & actually gets to introduce & vote on legislation.

Link to audio

“Castro is one of the brightest leaders I have ever met.”

I hope she keeps talking.

379 3 wood  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:47:50am

re: #370 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I wonder if Government Motors has asked the union to make things difficult for their main competitor.

Maybe Obama is looking for a campaign contribution.

380 opnion  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:48:19am

re: #376 yesandno

Unfortunately, there are more like her…

The fact that the woman has absolutely no clue about history is a tribute to public education & the NEA.
If I remember correctly Fidel led the revolution & Che just came to Cuba to participate, which makes Fidel the Community Organizer & Che the outside agitator.
Che was the blood thirsty head case that had scores of Cibans executed without the benefit of trial.

381 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:48:19am

re: #377 BatGuano

Good night, lizards: The last best hope for mankind.

Nite, Bat. Hang well.

382 opnion  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:49:11am

re: #378 SasquatchOnSteroids

Link to audio

“Castro is one of the brightest leaders I have ever met.”

I hope she keeps talking.

She sounds like an imbecile.

383 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:50:01am

re: #382 opnion

She sounds like an imbecile.

Yep. And the ‘it all starts with racism’ crap, too.

384 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:50:37am

re: #379 3 wood

Maybe Obama is looking for a campaign contribution.

Let’s call him “Bugsy”.

385 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:52:09am

re: #378 SasquatchOnSteroids

No elections for a new presidents since 1959 in Cuba.

50 year terms there, and counting.

386 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:55:20am

re: #376 yesandno

She has a PhD

387 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:57:14am

Morning Lizards!

Life is good, except when …

… the battery in the smoke/carbon monoxide detector is low on power and beeps every 30 seconds and is located 10 feet up in the hallway where it cannot be reached and is driving me and my cats nuts and management hasn’t responded to my phone message about it and …

Life is good, except when that happens.

388 opnion  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 5:59:07am

re: #383 SasquatchOnSteroids

Yep. And the ‘it all starts with racism’ crap, too.

The charges of racism are getting tedious.
Not supporting health reform is racism. The depiction of Obama as the Joker is racist, even though it was photo shopped by a University of Illinois student of Palestinian lineage, who is a Lefist.
If you don’t think that that Michell is the new Jackie Kennedy, you are racist.
BHO was supposed to transcend race , Instead he & his minions have picked the scab.

389 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:00:15am

re: #385 Ojoe

No elections for a new presidents since 1959 in Cuba.

50 year terms there, and counting.

Now, now. You can’t blame Castro for Kennedy blockading his Russian voting machines due in for the ‘62 election.
/

390 opnion  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:00:27am

re: #387 midwestgak

Morning Lizards!

Life is good, except when …

… the battery in the smoke/carbon monoxide detector is low on power and beeps every 30 seconds and is located 10 feet up in the hallway where it cannot be reached and is driving me and my cats nuts and management hasn’t responded to my phone message about it and …

Life is good, except when that happens.

Now that’s annoying. The only thing that stops it is a fresh battery.

391 yesandno  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:00:33am

re: #380 opnion

The fact that the woman has absolutely no clue about history is a tribute to public education & the NEA.
If I remember correctly Fidel led the revolution & Che just came to Cuba to participate, which makes Fidel the Community Organizer & Che the outside agitator.
Che was the blood thirsty head case that had scores of Cibans executed without the benefit of trial.

Look…one of her BFFs is Maxine Waters.

We are judged by the company we keep.

Wonder how those millions of Cubans in Miami would think about her comments?

392 irish rose  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:02:16am

re: #387 midwestgak

Morning Lizards!

Life is good, except when …

… the battery in the smoke/carbon monoxide detector is low on power and beeps every 30 seconds and is located 10 feet up in the hallway where it cannot be reached and is driving me and my cats nuts and management hasn’t responded to my phone message about it and …

Life is good, except when that happens.

Wrap an old towel around a shoe, and throw a shoe at it to see if you can either knock the cover off or jar the battery loose.

393 yesandno  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:02:35am

re: #386 Ojoe

She has a PhD


In education, no less.

394 quickjustice  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:03:41am

re: #375 opnion

Van Jones, Obama’s green “czar”, is an avowed communist. And a few decades ago, Castro made quite a scene on his annual UN visit to New York after Jack Kennedy’s CIA kept trying to assassinate him. He checked into a hotel up in Harlem, and refused cooked food, claiming the CIA was trying to poison him. He demanded that live chickens be brought to his hotel room for consumption.

The feathers literally were flying! Makes Colonel Gaddafi seem almost sane!

395 opnion  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:03:59am

re: #391 yesandno

Look…one of her BFFs is Maxine Waters.

We are judged by the company we keep.

Wonder how those millions of Cubans in Miami would think about her comments?

I have a friend who got one of the last planes out. His father was Surgeon General of the Cuban Navy before the Revolution.
His stories are not pretty. He woke up one morning with an automatic in his face held by one of his “friends.”

396 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:04:00am

re: #392 irish rose

Wrap an old towel around a shoe, and throw a shoe at it to see if you can either knock the cover off or jar the battery loose.

Carefully, aim a pistol…

397 cliffster  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:04:29am

re: #387 midwestgak

Morning Lizards!

Life is good, except when …

… the battery in the smoke/carbon monoxide detector is low on power and beeps every 30 seconds and is located 10 feet up in the hallway where it cannot be reached and is driving me and my cats nuts and management hasn’t responded to my phone message about it and …

Life is good, except when that happens.

Morning all! So I’ve been wondering, the smoke detectors these days are wired into the house. And, they have batteries. Why do they need batteries, if they are plugged in? Just to preserve the annoyance factor?

398 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:05:31am

re: #397 cliffster

What about if your house loses power during the fire?

399 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:05:32am

re: #393 yesandno

Piled Higher and Deeper

400 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:05:42am

re: #397 cliffster

Morning all! So I’ve been wondering, the smoke detectors these days are wired into the house. And, they have batteries. Why do they need batteries, if they are plugged in? Just to preserve the annoyance factor?

Well, if the power goes out…

401 opnion  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:06:59am

Later Citizens.

402 quickjustice  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:07:43am

IIRC, during the 1930s, the Soviet Union had several U.S. congressmen directly on its payroll.

403 irish rose  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:08:53am

So, random topic… we’re on poopwatch at my house this morning. My Jack Russell terrier ate almost a whole loaf of bread out of the trash can last night, and she’s paying for it today big time.

This dog is a lifelong garbage eater, we’ve never been able to break her of the habit… she’s a stubborn little shite, and just won’t leave it alone. You’d think over the course of her 14-year lifespan and dozens of incidents like this one she would have learned her lesson about eating out of the trash, but nooo.

404 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:09:43am

Gotta get rollin’. See y’all later.

405 lawhawk  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:09:53am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. This is the 4th anniversary of the Katrina landfall and subsequent disaster up and down the Gulf Coast. Construction has been slow, there have been major problems with the levees (still!) and much of what people know happened during Katrina simply isn’t true.

This much is true: nearly 2,000 people were killed by the storm in the Gulf Coast, and many of them died when the levees around New Orleans failed miserably under conditions that shouldn’t have resulted in such massive and widespread damage. Only later do we realize that the levees were poorly designed and even more poorly maintained.

Now, we learn that the pumps that were installed after Katrina aren’t up to snuff either, and there are ongoing problems with rebuilding levees, including using salty soil that inhibits growth of grass that prevents erosion of those same levees.

406 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:11:11am

re: #392 irish rose

Wrap an old towel around a shoe, and throw a shoe at it to see if you can either knock the cover off or jar the battery loose.

I want to whack the plastic piece of crap with a broom handle, but I’ve made my complaint known to management. When they do come to take care of the problem and see that it has been smashed to death, they may think I had something to do with it. arg.

407 SixDegrees  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:11:29am

re: #387 midwestgak

Morning Lizards!

Life is good, except when …

… the battery in the smoke/carbon monoxide detector is low on power and beeps every 30 seconds and is located 10 feet up in the hallway where it cannot be reached and is driving me and my cats nuts and management hasn’t responded to my phone message about it and …

Life is good, except when that happens.

See, this is one of those times a gun would come in handy. From 10 feet away, a smoke detector would be an easy target.

And your management service would pay a lot more attention to your future complaints.

408 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:11:50am

re: #405 lawhawk

Should they rename NOLA?

How about “Whoops!, LA”

409 Locker  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:14:06am

re: #387 midwestgak

Morning Lizards!

Life is good, except when …

… the battery in the smoke/carbon monoxide detector is low on power and beeps every 30 seconds and is located 10 feet up in the hallway where it cannot be reached and is driving me and my cats nuts and management hasn’t responded to my phone message about it and …

Life is good, except when that happens.

Can’t get a chair or step ladder out in the hall? I’d go right after it but worse comes to worse go in a bedroom with the cats, close door, put on low music and try to block it out.

410 quickjustice  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:14:45am

Limbaugh predicted that racial grievance wouldn’t end with the election of Obama, but would get worse. And the professional racial grievance-mongers, including Gates, Jackson, and Sharpton, do seem to be getting more shrill.

So the claims that we have a post-racial president diminish in credibility as the “race card” is repeatedly played by the White House and its allies in an effort to squelch the opposition.

“You’re a racist if you oppose health care reform” is the most recent manifestation of this. It’s not smart of Obama to personalize controversial public policy issues like this. It actually drives racial polarization, and highlights racial grievance as a claim, not merely of legitimacy, but of supremacy. That’s dangerous.

411 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:16:30am
412 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:16:41am

re: #407 SixDegrees

See, this is one of those times a gun would come in handy. From 10 feet away, a smoke detector would be an easy target.

And your management service would pay a lot more attention to your future complaints.

LOL!

413 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:21:16am

re: #409 Locker

Can’t get a chair or step ladder out in the hall? I’d go right after it but worse comes to worse go in a bedroom with the cats, close door, put on low music and try to block it out.

Putting the fan on Hi works pretty well. Beep. Can hardly hear it. Beep. Blasting the TV works too. Beep. I now know why Holiday Express is so popular. Beep. Making a reservation as I type. Beep. /

414 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:22:41am

re: #405 lawhawk

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. This is the 4th anniversary of the Katrina landfall and subsequent disaster up and down the Gulf Coast. Construction has been slow, there have been major problems with the levees (still!) and much of what people know happened during Katrina simply isn’t true.

This much is true: nearly 2,000 people were killed by the storm in the Gulf Coast, and many of them died when the levees around New Orleans failed miserably under conditions that shouldn’t have resulted in such massive and widespread damage. Only later do we realize that the levees were poorly designed and even more poorly maintained.

Now, we learn that the pumps that were installed after Katrina aren’t up to snuff either, and there are ongoing problems with rebuilding levees, including using salty soil that inhibits growth of grass that prevents erosion of those same levees.

In other words, life in NOLA goes on as usual …

415 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:22:46am

re: #410 quickjustice

Well the 2008 election rewarded the race card so to speak, and you get more of whatever you reward.

416 Killian Bundy  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:24:13am

Will Obama surrender to Russia over missile defence?

Reports in the Polish media indicate that the Obama administration is about to abandon its plans for “third site” missile defence installations in Poland and the Czech Republic. If enacted, this would represent a huge turnaround in American strategic thinking on a global missile defence system, and a massive betrayal of two key US allies in eastern and central Europe. Such a move would significantly weaken America’s ability to combat the growing threat posed by Iran’s ballistic missile program, and would hand a major propaganda victory to the Russians.

/it’s a rhetorical question, Obama only adopts policies that that are anathema to the United States’ national security interest

417 SasyMomaCat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:27:22am

slipping out of lurking this morning - is iceweasel still around?

418 irish rose  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:28:15am

re: #417 SasyMomaCat

slipping out of lurking this morning - is iceweasel still around?


Why wouldn’t she be?

419 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:30:31am
420 SasyMomaCat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:32:28am

re: #418 irish rose

Not saying she wouldn’t be - just wondering if she’s on this morning. Trying to get into direct contact with her. I don’t know her personally, so this is the only way I know of to reach her.

421 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:32:59am

Morning Honcos!

Rise please.

Four Fort Lewis soldiers die in action

Captain John Hallet
Captain Cory Jenkins
Sgt. Ron Sawyer
Pfc. Dennis Williams

Rest in Peace, may God grant comfort to the families.

422 SasyMomaCat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:33:21am

I should probably clarify - I saw that iceweasel was online up thread, but didn’t see any postings within the last few …

423 Truck Monkey  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:33:46am

re: #419 SasquatchOnSteroids

Oil change fail

Poor bastard. That looked like it hurt.

424 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:35:49am

re: #421 JCM

Morning Honcos!

Rise please.

Four Fort Lewis soldiers die in action

Captain John Hallet
Captain Cory Jenkins
Sgt. Ron Sawyer
Pfc. Dennis Williams

Rest in Peace, may God grant comfort to the families.


[Video]

God Bless their Souls and bring Strength and comfort to their Families…
The price of freedom is indeed high…

425 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:37:06am

re: #422 SasyMomaCat

I should probably clarify - I saw that iceweasel was online up thread, but didn’t see any postings within the last few …

Good morning…Long time lizard
Hope today finds you well

426 Truck Monkey  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:37:37am

re: #401 opnion

Later Citizens.

Buy Batman.

427 FrogMarch  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:38:01am

re: #15 pat

I see Mark Steyn is about as impressed with Teddy as i was.
Mark Steyn: Things only a Kennedy could get away with

[Link: www.ocregister.com…]

How many changed lives justify leaving a human being struggling for breath for up to five hours pressed up against the window in a small, shrinking air pocket in Teddy’s Oldsmobile?

But old uncle Ted liked to joke about it. The media thinks that’s cute.

428 lawhawk  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:39:43am

Good news watch:

Pakistani suicide bomber training camp blows up real good. Six Taliban terrorists died of heartbreak over yet another Cubs wasted season or high explosives, but mostly high explosives.

429 Drider  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:40:34am

An interesting snapshot makes it’s niche on the scale of time.

The sign in dispute would have been offensive for many a month ago, it should be very apparent that it is valid message now, being it points out the obvious.

430 SasyMomaCat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:41:15am

re: #425 HoosierHoops

good morning, HH, - likewise, hope you’re having a good morning, too! Mine would be better if my weekend housework wasn’t still piling up while I’m here :-) But, then again, I suppose that’s a blessing, too, as it means I have stuff that needs to be cleaned, etc. - some aren’t so fortunate …

(I really should come out of lurking more, but I’m usually at work and Big Brother kind of frowns on posting from there)

431 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:42:00am

re: #428 lawhawk

Good news watch:

Pakistani suicide bomber training camp blows up real good. Six Taliban terrorists died of heartbreak over yet another Cubs wasted season or high explosives, but mostly high explosives.

What was the last thing that passed through their minds?

Their asses.

432 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:43:53am

Good morning y’all - from a moderate (73 degrees going up to 88 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
I hope you are all doing well today!

433 Kenneth  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:44:52am

re: #432 realwest

Good morning to you!

434 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:45:30am

re: #433 Kenneth
Hey Kenneth, how are you doing this fine day?

435 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:45:34am

re: #427 FrogMarch

But old uncle Ted liked to joke about it. The media thinks that’s cute.

I noticed a flag at half mast yesterday and I had been gone for 5 days and largely missed the news, but still I knew Kennedy had died. Nonetheless, I wondered who had died that merited… you know… that. And someone had even decided between the time I left home yesterday morning and returned late afternoon to lower the flag coming into our neighborhood.

Amazed I was.

436 Kenneth  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:45:43am

re: #428 lawhawk

Killed by Hellfire missiles and Obamacare death panels, but mostly Hellfire missiles.

437 SasyMomaCat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:45:59am

re: #432 realwest

good morning, rw - hope you and your mom are well - may not get another chance to actually post, so wanted to let you know you guys are in my prayers.

Re temp, SE TN is at 71 on my front porch this a.m. Gotta love it!

438 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:46:18am

re: #432 realwest

Good morning y’all - from a moderate (73 degrees going up to 88 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
I hope you are all doing well today!

Morning real. Hope you’re feeling well today.

439 Kenneth  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:47:13am

re: #434 realwest

I’m good, but disappointed my granddaughter’s birthday party has been canceled on account of the wee girl has a bad cold.

440 FrogMarch  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:47:27am

re: #435 J.D.

I noticed a flag at half mast yesterday and I had been gone for 5 days and largely missed the news, but still I knew Kennedy had died. Nonetheless, I wondered who had died that merited… you know… that. And someone had even decided between the time I left home yesterday morning and returned late afternoon to lower the flag coming into our neighborhood.

Amazed I was.

Do we always lower flags after US senators die? or is this just a “Kennedy ” thing?

441 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:47:38am

re: #435 J.D.
Hi {J.D.} - how are you doing today and why were you amazed that someone lowered the flag coming into your community to half-mast?

442 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:47:54am

re: #430 SasyMomaCat

good morning, HH, - likewise, hope you’re having a good morning, too! Mine would be better if my weekend housework wasn’t still piling up while I’m here :-) But, then again, I suppose that’s a blessing, too, as it means I have stuff that needs to be cleaned, etc. - some aren’t so fortunate …

(I really should come out of lurking more, but I’m usually at work and Big Brother kind of frowns on posting from there)

Nice to meet you…We had the blow out party last night at the pub for our Son returning home from the Marines…We have our son back and nothing is so sweet that God spared his life and gave him back to us…We closed down the joint last night and I’m still a little…mmm Dizzy?
I promised when Jordan came home I’d change my Avatar from 1st platoon 3/5 marines to my little doggie floating around the pool…
It’s a new day

443 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:49:15am

re: #432 realwest

Good morning y’all - from a moderate (73 degrees going up to 88 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
I hope you are all doing well today!

Jordan is out of the Marines and home! Please note Avatar change…
Hi Realwest!

444 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:49:26am

re: #437 SasyMomaCat
Um, thank you, Mom and I are doing ok, thanks, but why would you not get another chance to post?

445 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:49:47am
At the Huffington Post, Melissa Lafsky mused on what Mary Jo “would have thought about arguably being a catalyst for the most successful Senate career in history … Who knows – maybe she’d feel it was worth it.” What true-believing liberal lass wouldn’t be honored to be dispatched by that death panel?


~Steyn

Strange.
Very strange.

446 Kenneth  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:49:55am

re: #428 lawhawk

I’m guessing turnout at Homecoming Day celebrations is pretty thin at Pakistani suicide bomber training camps. And alumni fund raising drives are less than successful.

447 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:50:39am

re: #438 SasquatchOnSteroids
Hey howdy Sasquatch! Yeah, I’m doing ok my friend, hows about yourself?

448 SasyMomaCat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:51:09am

re: #442 HoosierHoops

Congrats on having your hero home! That’s fantastic news! How wonderful for you and yours! Please pass along my thanks for his service. I love to hear when one of ours has made it home safely to the arms of family and friends.

Adorable doggie, btw …

449 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:51:32am

Oh, and blueherron downdinged pat’s #15 link to Steyn’s article.

Must have inflamed his/her/it’s delicate sensibilities… or something.

450 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:52:51am

re: #432 realwest

Good morning y’all - from a moderate (73 degrees going up to 88 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
I hope you are all doing well today!

Morning {real}. Beep.

451 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:53:33am

re: #428 lawhawk

Good news watch:

Pakistani suicide bomber training camp blows up real good. Six Taliban terrorists died of heartbreak over yet another Cubs wasted season or high explosives, but mostly high explosives.

Those Cubs fans do tend to take it rather hard.

452 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:53:41am

re: #442 HoosierHoops
Good morning Hoopster! My gosh you’re up early after we all imagined last night that you and your son would be up drinking celebrating last night!
And in the event that you somehow forgot in the excitement of seeing your son again, please tell Jordan how much we ALL appreciate his service to our Nation!

453 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:55:10am

re: #447 realwest

Hey howdy Sasquatch! Yeah, I’m doing ok my friend, hows about yourself?

Not bad. Just getting ready to head out. Glad I got a chance to say hi.
Have a good morning !

454 SasyMomaCat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:55:26am

re: #444 realwest

Mostly because I’m usually reading from work. If I start posting, they will end up putting LGF on the blocked site list, which I really don’t want to see happen. On weekends, I’m usually doing house work and serving as “mom’s taxi service” for my tween son who seems to have a far more active social life than I did at 10 years old. So, I don’t get on much on weekends.

455 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:55:30am

re: #450 midwestgak
Beep,beep - morning {gak} how are you today?

456 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:55:37am

re: #440 FrogMarch

Do we always lower flags after US senators die? or is this just a “Kennedy ” thing?

I didn’t think so, typically.

457 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:55:42am

BBIAM!

458 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:56:07am

re: #425 HoosierHoops

Good Morning {Hoosier}. Happy for you that your son is home!

459 Lucius Septimius  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 6:59:07am

“Apparently drunk?” I wonder what set them off on that one?

460 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:00:31am

re: #452 realwest

Good morning Hoopster! My gosh you’re up early after we all imagined last night that you and your son would be up drinking celebrating last night!
And in the event that you somehow forgot in the excitement of seeing your son again, please tell Jordan how much we ALL appreciate his service to our Nation!

Thank you Real…I haven’t been to bed yet…Jumped into the pool this morning..I’m wide awake now bro!
My son is a hero..I am very proud…Saw more pics from his tour in Fallujah 2 years ago…There was some bad shit that went down there…After the heroic push by 2/5 in the opening days…3/5 put down fallujah…not peep has been heard from it since..You see the pics you know why…Some day there are going to be lots of books written about the Marines in Fallujah…
Hero’s all and bad ass mofo’s don’t mess with devil dogs…

461 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:00:57am

re: #454 SasyMomaCat
Ah, geez, I’m so old that I remember when a “tween” was someone who was 12 or so!
And they wouldn’t have such an active social life if not for their chauffer! Shouldn’t they be doing homework so y’all can stay out here and play for a while?!

462 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:02:56am

Evening honcos.

How goes things?

463 SasyMomaCat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:03:56am

re: #461 realwest

LOL - one would think, but he never has homework on the weekends. True, without the chauffer, he wouldn’t go and do quite so much. I agree - where’s mom and dad’s play time? Ooof … let’s not go there … in mixed company, for sure …

464 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:04:44am

re: #460 HoosierHoops

Did you punch a protester in the face for me? q;

465 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:05:18am

re: #455 realwest

Beep,beep - morning {gak} how are you today?

Doing well. Have laundry in the oven and biscuits in the dryer. Beep.

466 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:06:16am

Good Morning all. Rainy and cool here in the northeast. The garden needed some water though

467 FrogMarch  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:06:28am

The guy (D) who is in charge of increasing our taxes is a tax cheat.
Oh well.

468 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:07:39am

re: #464 laZardo

Did you punch a protester in the face for me? q;

LOL
Good morning/afternoon/evening to you…
Send global warming…It’s cool today…I screamed after I jumped into the pool.. I’ll punch out Al Gore if I see him!
*wink*

469 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:08:18am

re: #459 Lucius Septimius
Hey Lucius, good morning to ya! I LOVED these last lines from your link:
“The parents were asleep in their bedroom when their 6-year-old son ran into their room, woke them up and told them a man was sleeping in his bed. The boy said he was watching television in his room when the nude Brisseaux entered, lay down on the boy’s bed and went to sleep.

Brisseaux later admitted he had been out drinking at a New Haven club, police said, but denied going into the wrong home.

He claimed that his arrest was the result of racial profiling, police said.”
[emphasis added, realwest]

Somehow I don’t think Mr. Brisseaux is gonna win this one! LOL!
Still scary shit for the kid - who’s father shoulda beat Mr. Brisseaux with a baseball bat while his wife called the cops.

470 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:08:22am

re: #441 realwest

Hi {J.D.} - how are you doing today and why were you amazed that someone lowered the flag coming into your community to half-mast?

{realwest}
I’m good, and how are you doing today?

It just never occurred to me that I would see it.

And it’s not just me… here…

The strangest thing happened to me yesterday. Six months after I moved here, my older cat, Buddy [fifteen at the time], went out and didn’t return. I finally accepted that I would never see him again.

Yesterday, around noon, my manager from Kentucky called to tell me someone had called the business and said they had found my cat… here’s the phone number to call. He had been taken to the county animal shelter where they scanned him and found his microchip and said, “He’s black and tan striped and his name is Buddy”. And sure enough, it was him.

So my Buddy is back, two and a half years after he disappeared.

471 SasyMomaCat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:08:24am

re: #467 FrogMarch

eh, that’s par for the course, especially since January. Fox in charge of the hen house, etc.

472 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:10:26am

re: #442 HoosierHoops

Nice to meet you…We had the blow out party last night at the pub for our Son returning home from the Marines…We have our son back and nothing is so sweet that God spared his life and gave him back to us…We closed down the joint last night and I’m still a little…mmm Dizzy?
I promised when Jordan came home I’d change my Avatar from 1st platoon 3/5 marines to my little doggie floating around the pool…
It’s a new day

Hooray! Congratulations! That’s fabulous!

473 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:11:27am

Whoops - plumbing emergency! BBWhen I can!!!

474 Lucius Septimius  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:11:39am

re: #469 realwest

Well, what else are you going to say? I don’t think that defense will work, but who knows in Obamerica?

475 FrogMarch  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:12:35am
476 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:12:54am

re: #474 Lucius Septimius

Well, what else are you going to say? I don’t think that defense will work, but who knows in Obamerica?

Anything that reeks of a potential sex offense is definitely gonna land him in the slammer.

477 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:13:24am

re: #468 HoosierHoops

LOL
Good morning/afternoon/evening to you…
Send global warming…It’s cool today…I screamed after I jumped into the pool.. I’ll punch out Al Gore if I see him!
*wink*

Can I watch? :-) I love your new avatar, nice looking dogs

478 SasyMomaCat  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:13:25am

Well, Lizards, it’s on to housework, etc. - no taxi duty today so I might actually get caught up on housework! Maybe we can even get caught up on our in-progress home improvement projects (if we get the floor down in the bathroom and reinstall the toilet, we’ll actually be back to having two bathrooms, which would be most welcome - then we have to finish painting and flooring the closets … and the list goes on …)

Stay scaly and have a great weekend, all! Hope to pop back in before too very long.

smc

479 Lucius Septimius  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:14:06am

re: #476 laZardo

Anything that reeks of a potential sex offense is definitely gonna land him in the slammer.

One would hope.

480 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:14:16am

re: #473 realwest

Whoops - plumbing emergency! BBWhen I can!!!

Are farts lumpy? LOL

481 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:16:14am

re: #459 Lucius Septimius

“Apparently drunk?” I wonder what set them off on that one?

He claimed that his arrest was the result of racial profiling, police said.

Ummm hmmm.

482 Lucius Septimius  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:18:22am

Oops! More racial profiling!

I wonder if this announcement will increase interest in camping.

483 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:19:12am

Goddamned toilet overflowed and when I shut the water valve off it sarted leaking (at a slower pace) entire bathroom floor is about 1/2” deep in (fortunately) clean water.
Damn it.
Gotta go y’all - hope I get the chance to see y’all down the road!

484 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:21:46am

re: #483 realwest

If I would be a young man again and had to decide how to make my living, I would not try to become a scientist or scholar or teacher. I would rather choose to be a plumber or a peddler in the hope to find that modest degree of independence still available under present circumstances.
— Albert Einstein, The Reporter, November 18 1954

485 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:23:08am

re: #484 J.D.

I would rather choose to be a plumber or a peddler in the hope to find that modest degree of independence still available under present circumstances.

He wouldn’t be saying that if he were alive today. For obvious reasons.

486 yochanan  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:23:48am

welcome to the U.S.S.A. boys

487 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:25:39am

re: #486 yochanan

welcome to the U.S.S.A. boys

“We can’t stop here! This is moonbat country!”

488 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:25:54am

Gah! Now my Mom’s toilet is overflowing! I HATE THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX AND IT’S CRAPPY (NO PUN INTENDED) MAINTENANCE SERVICE!!!

489 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:26:12am

re: #485 laZardo

He wouldn’t be saying that if he were alive today. For obvious reasons.

And to just think…
They could have skewered Al the plumber instead.

490 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:29:33am

re: #488 realwest

Gah! Now my Mom’s toilet is overflowing! I HATE THIS APARTMENT COMPLEX AND IT’S CRAPPY (NO PUN INTENDED) MAINTENANCE SERVICE!!!

And I complained about a dying detector battery.

491 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:31:25am

re: #470 J.D.

I’m not a kitteh guy (dog owner here), but that deserves many updings.

492 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:31:56am

Obama’s Diversity Czar at the FCC.

In the second clip.

State radio in Rwanda was taken over by one tribe-one group-and they began to put out propaganda so that the Tutsis were targeted. And what resulted…was essentially genocide in Rwanda. The State, or this particular tribe which controlled the radio, very purposefully moved to ensure they could ‘do things’. Uh, their social change. Uh, in Venezuela and with Chavez—really an incredible revolution ’democratic’ revolution—to begin to put in place things that are going to have an impact on the people of Venezuela.

He is one of the ones pushing “locallism” the fairness doctrine by another name.

493 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:32:22am

re: #486 yochanan

welcome to the U.S.S.A. boys

Flew in from Miami Beach BOAC
Didn’t get to bed last night
Oh, the way the paper bag was on my knee
Man, I had a dreadful flight
I’m back in the USSA
You don’t know how lucky you are, babe
Back in the USSA, yeah

Been away so long I hardly knew the DC
Gee, it’s good to be back home
Leave it till tomorrow to unpack my case
Honey disconnect the phone
I’m back in the USSA
You don’t know how lucky you are, babe
Back in the US
Back in the US
Back in the USSa

Well the Intern girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
And DC girls make me sing and shout
They Washington’s always on my my my my my my my my my mind
Oh, come on
Hu Hey Hu, hey, ah, yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah
I’m back in the USSA
You don’t know how lucky you are, babe
Back in the USSA

494 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:33:00am

re: #493 HoosierHoops

Flew in from Miami Beach BOAC
Didn’t get to bed last night
Oh, the way the paper bag was on my knee
Man, I had a dreadful flight
I’m back in the USSA
You don’t know how lucky you are, babe
Back in the USSA, yeah

Been away so long I hardly knew the DC
Gee, it’s good to be back home
Leave it till tomorrow to unpack my case
Honey disconnect the phone
I’m back in the USSA
You don’t know how lucky you are, babe
Back in the US
Back in the US
Back in the USSa

Well the Intern girls really knock me out
They leave the west behind
And DC girls make me sing and shout
They Washington’s always on my my my my my my my my my mind
Oh, come on
Hu Hey Hu, hey, ah, yeah
yeah, yeah, yeah
I’m back in the USSA
You don’t know how lucky you are, babe
Back in the USSA

LMAO!

495 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:33:08am

Beck

Please don’t down ding the messenger.

August 29, 2009
The Beck Boycott’s unintended consequences
Ethel C. Fenig
The organized boycott of Glenn Beck and his program is proving the truth of two public relations fundamentals; “just about any publicity is good publicity” and “I don’t care what you say about me, just spell my name right.”

It seems the boycotters, who are giving Beck loads of free publicity, carefully spelling his name correctly while also conveniently including his network and the times his controversial show airs, have helped Beck. All for free! It turns out that although advertisers are continuing to pull ads from Beck’s program —and shifting them to other slots on the Fox network which airs it—the fallout publicity has increased his audience.

As Robert Seidman of TV by the Numbers reports

Though a little scandal might alienate advertisers, it’s pure ratings gold. Last night Glenn Beck had over 3 million viewers at 5pm, second only to O’Reilly for the night. But, Beck had more 25-54 viewers than O’Reilly (888K to 876K). (snip) Even though Beck airs before primetime, when there are fewer people watching TV, he had the most 25-54 viewers in the cable news world for the night.

In the meantime, the advertisers are missing an easy opportunity to reach the prime demographic, viewers ages 25-54, who are probably tweeting and facebooking how much they enjoy Beck’s additional comments now that the program isn’t cluttered by intrusive ads from Applebee’s to Vonage and more. Which of course draws even more viewers.

And Beck—and Fox—are giggling all the way to the bank. As are the viewers.

496 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:33:41am

re: #477 bbuddha

Can I watch? :-) I love your new avatar, nice looking dogs

That avatar looks like the poster for an amazing action film.

497 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:33:49am

re: #492 JCM

Obama’s Diversity Czar at the FCC.


[Video]In the second clip.

State radio in Rwanda was taken over by one tribe-one group-and they began to put out propaganda so that the Tutsis were targeted. And what resulted…was essentially genocide in Rwanda. The State, or this particular tribe which controlled the radio, very purposefully moved to ensure they could ‘do things’. Uh, their social change. Uh, in Venezuela and with Chavez—really an incredible revolution ’democratic’ revolution—to begin to put in place things that are going to have an impact on the people of Venezuela.

He is one of the ones pushing “locallism” the fairness doctrine by another name.

Somehow, I don’t think he sees the disconnect. That’s probably why Obama chose him, ‘useful idiot’ and all.

498 itellu3times  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:33:51am

re: #493 HoosierHoops

You know the original song was gonna have USA verses.

499 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:34:20am

re: #488 realwest

That really sucks, I hope you can get someone to take care of that quickly.

500 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:34:57am

Saudi royal hurt by al Qaeda suicide blast - First major attack in realm since 2006

A brazen attempt to assassinate Saudi Arabia’s top counterterrorism official shows that al Qaeda has not been eliminated in its birthplace and is redirecting its efforts to target members of the Saudi royal family, analysts and U.S. counterterrorism officials say.
[…]
“They’re back,” agreed Bruce Riedel, a CIA veteran and former senior official on the White House National Security Council…{emphasis mine}

Military chief seeks new plan to woo Muslims

[…]
“To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate,” Admiral Mullen wrote in the critique…[.]

Rough Terrain

Under an experimental program in Afghanistan, teams of anthropologists and social scientists are working alongside soldiers to help win the war by winning over the Afghan people. It may seem like a brilliant idea. But in this battle, nothing is as it seems.
[…]
A 36-year-old from Texas, Paula had a wide, heart-shaped smile, degrees from Wellesley and Georgetown and years of experience as a soldier and aid worker in Afghanistan. On a lane near the bazaar, she talked to a villager about the price of the jug of gasoline he was holding. Without warning, the Afghan doused her with gas and set her on fire. The soldiers and one of Paula’s Human Terrain teammates, a 46-year-old former Army Ranger named Don Ayala, caught her attacker. When Don heard that Paula had been badly burned, he pulled out his pistol and shot the man in the head.

Don pleaded guilty to manslaughter and in May was sentenced to five years of probation and fined. Paula was flown to a hospital in her home town of San Antonio, where she died in January.

Jayzuz keyrist…we’re regressing at 4 times light-speed.

hopeychangey…hopeychangey…hopeychangey…now, go make a wish.

501 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:35:57am

re: #495 midwestgak

Look on the bright side. More people will see what an utter loon Beck is and will pressure Beck’s regular viewer to stop watching him and get the crazy out of their lives.

/I’m hoping it works that way

502 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:36:36am

re: #497 Dark_Falcon

Somehow, I don’t think he sees the disconnect. That’s probably why Obama chose him, ‘useful idiot’ and all.

And he is the one writing to regulations to make sure the media is “diverse” and ideological diversity is part of the goal. Diversity according to his standards.

503 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:37:22am

Am I the only one that finds this ominous? [Link: newsfeedresearcher.com…]

504 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:38:03am

re: #495 midwestgak

Beck

Please don’t down ding the messenger.

August 29, 2009
The Beck Boycott’s unintended consequences
Ethel C. Fenig
The organized boycott of Glenn Beck and his program is proving the truth of two public relations fundamentals; “just about any publicity is good publicity” and “I don’t care what you say about me, just spell my name right.”

It seems the boycotters, who are giving Beck loads of free publicity, carefully spelling his name correctly while also conveniently including his network and the times his controversial show airs, have helped Beck. All for free! It turns out that although advertisers are continuing to pull ads from Beck’s program —and shifting them to other slots on the Fox network which airs it—the fallout publicity has increased his audience.

As Robert Seidman of TV by the Numbers reports

Though a little scandal might alienate advertisers, it’s pure ratings gold. Last night Glenn Beck had over 3 million viewers at 5pm, second only to O’Reilly for the night. But, Beck had more 25-54 viewers than O’Reilly (888K to 876K). (snip) Even though Beck airs before primetime, when there are fewer people watching TV, he had the most 25-54 viewers in the cable news world for the night.

In the meantime, the advertisers are missing an easy opportunity to reach the prime demographic, viewers ages 25-54, who are probably tweeting and facebooking how much they enjoy Beck’s additional comments now that the program isn’t cluttered by intrusive ads from Applebee’s to Vonage and more. Which of course draws even more viewers.

And Beck—and Fox—are giggling all the way to the bank. As are the viewers.

And we helped…

505 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:38:30am

re: #501 Dark_Falcon

He is certainly intense and tends to think (and speak) outside the box, but he isn’t a loon imho

506 itellu3times  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:39:28am

re: #495 midwestgak

In the meantime, the advertisers are missing an easy opportunity to reach the prime demographic, viewers ages 25-54, who are probably tweeting and facebooking how much they enjoy Beck’s additional comments now that the program isn’t cluttered by intrusive ads from Applebee’s to Vonage and more. Which of course draws even more viewers.

So, just who is still advertising there?
* Lexapro
* Reynold Wrap … warp, wrap, whatever
* Grand Dragon vacations

507 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:39:31am

re: #491 Mad Al-Jaffee

I’m not a kitteh guy (dog owner here), but that deserves many updings.

Thanks!
I can still hardly believe it.

They took our picture with him so they could use it to promote putting a microchip in your pet, which I can highly recommend. That’s a great picture of your friend there, btw.

508 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:44:55am

ARGGGHHH!!! The maintenance guy showed up and ALL the apartments in our complex (two above ours, one ground floor rear of us, apartment in back of ours, apartments across the floor from us and aprartments across the floor and upstairs (3 story building) all have water leaks and the maintenance dude says “Gee, I think y’all got a water leak somewhere!”
Effin Rocket scientist - guy LIVES in the apartment complex, calls the local water authority and they told him that there’a apprently a broke main somewhere - what’s the name and address and zip code of the apartment complex HE LIVES IN and He can’t remember!1111111111111111!
OY!

509 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:45:51am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

For once, the sun is shining, and its nice and warm here - provided you can get out of the icy NW blasts …

510 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:47:01am

re: #508 realwest

ARGGGHHH!!! The maintenance guy showed up and ALL the apartments in our complex (two above ours, one ground floor rear of us, apartment in back of ours, apartments across the floor from us and aprartments across the floor and upstairs (3 story building) all have water leaks and the maintenance dude says “Gee, I think y’all got a water leak somewhere!”
Effin Rocket scientist - guy LIVES in the apartment complex, calls the local water authority and they told him that there’a apprently a broke main somewhere - what’s the name and address and zip code of the apartment complex HE LIVES IN and He can’t remember!1111111111111111!
OY!

The main leak backing up and flooding the sewers?

GAG!

511 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:47:16am

re: #504 Walter L. Newton
Whatcha mean “we”?!?

512 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:47:40am

re: #509 yma o hyd

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

For once, the sun is shining, and its nice and warm here - provided you can get out of the icy NW blasts …

Good morning! Jordan is home and I promised you I’d change my nic from the Marines to little Winston in the pool…
Here you go dear friend…

513 Mad Al-Jaffee  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:47:49am

re: #507 J.D.

Thank you! She’s a crazy dog, but I couldn’t imagine what I would do without her. Everyone loves her summer haircut.

514 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:48:51am

re: #510 JCM

The main leak backing up and flooding the sewers?

GAG!

No, all the water that’s FLOODED our two bathroom floors is all clear water and we got everything coming into the apartment shut down.

515 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:49:15am

Here’s some more stuff about Lockerbie - and NuLab is looking more and more shifty and sleazy:

Britain accused of breaking promise to US over Abdel Baset Ali al-Megrahi

From that link:
‘A former Cabinet minister and two sources close to talks over the handover of suspects in 1999 told The Times that Robin Cook, then Foreign Secretary, promised Madeleine Albright, US Secretary of State at the time, that anyone found guilty would serve their sentence in Scotland, where the airliner exploded with the loss of 270 lives.

A senior US official said: “There was a clear understanding at the time of the trial that al-Megrahi would serve his sentence in Scotland. In the 1990s the UK had the same view. It is up to them to explain what changed.”

Yep - quite a few people in Gord’s cabinet have a lot more explaining to do!

516 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:50:33am

re: #515 yma o hyd
Hey {yma} send his ass over here - we’ll get him to digging slit trenches just in case!

517 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:50:57am

How GE’s green lobbying is killing U.S. factory jobs

WINCHESTER, VA—“Government did us in,” says Dwayne Madigan, whose job will terminate when General Electric closes its factory next July.

Madigan makes a product that will soon be illegal to sell in the U.S. - a regular incandescent bulb. Two years ago, his employer, GE, lobbied in favor of the law that will outlaw the bulbs.

Madigan’s colleagues, waiting for their evening shift to begin, all know that GE is replacing the incandescents for now with compact fluorescents bulbs, which GE manufactures in China.

Last month, GE announced it will close the Winchester Bulb Plant 80 miles west of D.C. As a result, 200 men and women will lose their jobs. GE is also shuttering incandescent factories in Ohio and Kentucky, axing another 200 jobs.

GE blamed environmental regulations for the closing. The first paragraph of the company’s July 23 press release explained:

“A variety of energy regulations that establish lighting efficiency standards are being implemented in the U.S. and other countries, in some cases this year, and will soon make the familiar lighting products produced at the Winchester Plant obsolete.”

The U.S. legislation in question was a provision in the 2007 energy bill that required all bulbs sold in the U.S.—beginning in 2012 for some wattages—to meet high efficiency standards.

Given the steady death of U.S. manufacturing, this factory was going to close sooner or later, anyway. Workers tell me they were happy when they heard in June that the factory was staying open at least through mid-2011—a plan GE abandoned the next month.

But the light bulb law is clearly the main driver in closing this factory. After all, the product they make here will be contraband by 2014.
“That was the nail in the coffin,” Madigan says.

These men, waiting in the shade in front of the employees’ entrance to the plant on a hot afternoon, all know another pertinent fact about the light-bulb law that is killing their jobs: GE lobbied in favor of it.

Why did GE, founded by Thomas Edison, lobby to kill the incandescent light bulb?

The company said in 2007 it wanted to make sure it was working under a single federal efficiency standard, rather than a patchwork of state regulations. GE also touts its compact fluorescents as one of the green products in its “eco-magination” initiative.

The workers don’t buy the green arguments, pointing to the mercury gas that’s in the fluorescents. “It’s illegal to dump mercury in the river, but not in the landfill,” two of them say in unison—it’s become a dark joke at the factory.

Robert Pifer, who will also be laid off in July if he doesn’t find a new job by then, has an explanation for GE’s support of the light-bulb law and its shift to the more expensive fluorescents. “Are they not just trying to force-feed people stuff they don’t want to buy?”

So, GE gets environmentalist brownie points for selling “clean” light bulbs, and they also get to charge more for their bulbs. But there’s another advantage—they save on labor with fluorescents, because they make the fluorescents in China.

Not only are wages lower there, but so are the regulatory burdens, both environmental and labor. The Times of London recently reported, “Large numbers of Chinese workers have been poisoned by mercury, which forms part of the compact fluorescent lightbulbs.”.


So that makes sense. I guess. To someone.
I have worked at the GE bulb plant in Lexington, KY, btw.

518 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:51:05am

re: #512 HoosierHoops

Good morning! Jordan is home and I promised you I’d change my nic from the Marines to little Winston in the pool…
Here you go dear friend…

Aww - thats adorable! Thats brilliant!

Thank you - he’s sooo cuddle-worthy!

519 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:51:50am

re: #514 realwest

No, all the water that’s FLOODED our two bathroom floors is all clear water and we got everything coming into the apartment shut down.

Whew, at least it clean water…
In Seattle when there is a main break the water dept. will deliver bottled water if the outage lasts longer than a few hours.

520 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:53:00am

re: #513 Mad Al-Jaffee

Thank you! She’s a crazy dog, but I couldn’t imagine what I would do without her. Everyone loves her summer haircut.

She looks as if she is thoroughly enjoying whatever is happening!

Summer hair cuts are a good thing - Madame has had hers as well, not that we had any summer … but it makes the drying-off after the many rainy walks quite a bit easier.

521 yochanan  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:53:02am

[Link: www.bloomberg.com…]

gulf arab states block N.K. arm shipment to iran.

522 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:53:11am

re: #503 bbuddha
Y’all mean the “Senate Bill Would Give President Emergency Control of Internet” bill discussed here:
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

523 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:53:36am

Tech question…again…I can only access LGF through AOL. I have uninstalled Firefox, installed Safari, and still can not get here. Is it Macafee, which is free with Comcast?

524 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:53:46am

Morning, everyone. Oh, Real, water in both bathrooms? What a nightmare! You need a break, my dear.

Do we have a Lizard Emergency Response Team (LERT) that can help? I’m not close enough.

525 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:54:10am

re: #516 realwest

Hey {yma} send his ass over here - we’ll get him to digging slit trenches just in case!

Hiya, {rw}!

What a good idea - can we throw in a few members of the cabinet as well?

526 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:54:33am

re: #523 Stonemason

Tech question…again…I can only access LGF through AOL. I have uninstalled Firefox, installed Safari, and still can not get here. Is it Macafee, which is free with Comcast?

I have McAfee and Comcast and I haven’t had that problem.

527 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:54:40am

re: #523 Stonemason

Tech question…again…I can only access LGF through AOL. I have uninstalled Firefox, installed Safari, and still can not get here. Is it Macafee, which is free with Comcast?

What happens when you try to get to LGF via Firefox? What happens, or what do you see?

528 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:55:57am

re: #517 J.D.

How GE’s green lobbying is killing U.S. factory jobs


So that makes sense. I guess. To someone.
I have worked at the GE bulb plant in Lexington, KY, btw.

Fluorescent lighting is becoming the new incandescent. New developments in lighting are heading in the LED direction.

529 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:56:05am

re: #523 Stonemason

I should add, though, that I had a problem accessing realclearpolitics.com several months ago and they apparently had a glitch between an ad at their site and comcast. I e-mailed back and forth with a guy there for several days until they got it worked out.

530 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:56:27am

re: #519 JCM
Uh, jcm? Never mind the bottled water - we got beer; we’re gonna need Porta-O’potties or whatever they’re called!

531 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:56:55am

re: #522 realwest

Y’all mean the “Senate Bill Would Give President Emergency Control of Internet” bill discussed here:
[Link: www.foxnews.com…]

Internet is not like air waves, how would the government begin to control millions of servers holding internet content around the world? The could take control of the large domain servers in the US, but to want purpose?

I’d be interested in more details on how this would work.

532 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:57:18am

re: #527 vxbush

What happens when you try to get to LGF via Firefox? What happens, or what do you see?


Firefox can’t find the server at [Link: www.littlegreenfootballs.com…]

533 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:57:34am

re: #530 realwest

Uh, jcm? Never mind the bottled water - we got beer; we’re gonna need Porta-O’potties or whatever they’re called!

Be careful, there; beer will dehydrate you! But if it makes the time pass easier, I can’t argue with it too much…

534 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:58:05am

re: #532 Stonemason

Firefox can’t find the server at [Link: www.littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Are you on Windows XP or Vista (or Linux or Mac OS X)? I might be able to help you diagnose the problem. A tiny bit.

535 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:58:23am

re: #528 laZardo

Fluorescent lighting is becoming the new incandescent. New developments in lighting are heading in the LED direction.

And then they will have something, I think.

All the signs at my businesses are LED. They cost more going in, but they use almost no power and go forever and a day!

536 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:58:30am

re: #522 realwest
Yep, that’s the one.
“maybe the Obama admin wont do that maybe not the next guy but down the line the more power we give the government to more likely we end up a dictatorship. I’m not blaming Obama this has nothing to do with him yet, but its got to stop somewhere.[16]”

537 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:58:34am

re: #530 realwest

Uh, jcm? Never mind the bottled water - we got beer; we’re gonna need Porta-O’potties or whatever they’re called!

After you empty the bottles, you fill ‘em up again…

//;-P

538 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:58:48am

re: #523 Stonemason
WHAT? You have Comcast but are using AOL?!?
Maybe you have one too many firewalls set up.
BTW, do y’all know anything about plumbing?

539 itellu3times  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:58:54am

re: #528 laZardo

Fluorescent lighting is becoming the new incandescent. New developments in lighting are heading in the LED direction.

You ever hear of LED “droop”?

540 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:59:33am

This has happened before and the re-install took care of it. Sometimes restarting the computer takes care of it. Not this time, it has been weeks…and while I do not post much, I do lurk quite a bit. One can not lurk on AOHell, even with the comcast connection, just too damn slow and jerky.

541 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:59:35am

re: #539 itellu3times

You ever hear of LED “droop”?

No…

/would like to know though

542 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:59:46am

re: #525 yma o hyd

Hiya, {rw}!

What a good idea - can we throw in a few members of the cabinet as well?


HELL! Throw ‘em all in!!

543 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:00:15am

re: #534 vxbush

Are you on Windows XP or Vista (or Linux or Mac OS X)? I might be able to help you diagnose the problem. A tiny bit.

XP

544 J.D.  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:00:26am

re: #542 realwest

HELL! Throw ‘em all in!!

Ours, too!

545 KenJen  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:00:39am

Good morning everyone. Have we discussed google’s main page today? They sure have their priorities straight./

546 itellu3times  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:00:45am

re: #541 laZardo

No…

/would like to know though

[Link: www.spectrum.ieee.org…]

547 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:00:48am

re: #533 vxbush

dehydration is good, his potty is broke :-)

548 Kenneth  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:01:26am

re: #521 yochanan

[Link: www.bloomberg.com…]

gulf arab states block N.K. arm shipment to iran.

That’s excellent news. Blocking that shipment hurts both of them. It’s almost as if they were part of some kind of “axis of evil arming to threaten the peace of the world”.

549 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:02:00am

re: #531 JCM
I’d bet that 90+% of all internet users in the US use one of the big internet companies (Timewarner/Comcast, etc).
That’d be enough to isoloate all those “other” servers so the government could id ‘em.

550 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:02:16am

re: #545 KenJen

Good morning everyone. Have we discussed google’s main page today? They sure have their priorities straight./

IF I FUCKING SEE ANOTHER MICHAEL FUCKING JACKSON TRIBUTE…

/ :x

551 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:03:56am

re: #533 vxbush
I was just joshing about the beer - I’m an alcoholic who’s been dry going on 6 years now. But I wasn’t joshing about the need for porta-potties - and yeah, I can use empty wide mouth bottles, but what about mom?!?

552 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:03:58am

re: #546 itellu3times

[Link: www.spectrum.ieee.org…]

The science is blinding!

/helpful though, thanks

553 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:05:01am

re: #542 realwest

HELL! Throw ‘em all in!!

That will give us all a great pleasure indeed!

(Bastids haven’t done one single day of honest work in all their lives .. time they did!)

554 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:05:29am

re: #540 Stonemason
Have y’all tried to recycle your modem?

555 HoosierHoops  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:05:52am

re: #518 yma o hyd

Aww - thats adorable! Thats brilliant!

Thank you - he’s sooo cuddle-worthy!

Good morning…It’s 11am here and the sun is starting to come out…Time to float and work on the tan…I always wish you the best…cause you are the best…
Realwest…You served in Nam.. You are one of our Hero’s…A few overflowed toilets are life’s little inconveniences…You should sit back and laugh tonight…
When I got the TDY gig with the DOD to work at Pearl for 3 years.. My Supervisor was so pissed off that he made arrangements for me with his connections that I clean the Base toilets every Monday morning…After a weekend of Sailors partying in Hawaii…Overflow toilets is playschool…
You need to laugh…

556 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:06:03am

re: #543 Stonemason

XP

Okay. Realwest’s comment about firewalls could be a legitimate problem. Do the following (I don’t have an XP box in front of me, so bear with me here, I’m doing it from memory):

1. Go to Start > Run …
2. In the dialog box that appears, type “cmd” (no quotes). A command window will appear
3. Type: tracert [Link: www.littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Tell me what it says. It should tell you how it’s finding the site by going through a variety of IP addresses.

557 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:06:19am

re: #544 J.D.
AMEN TO THAT!

558 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:06:37am

re: #545 KenJen

Good morning everyone. Hav ewe discussed google’s main page today? They sure have their priorities straight./

WTF is that supposed to ‘celebrate’?

Teddy Kennedy ‘going to heaven’?

(Sorry, Lizards - I really couldn’t help meself …!)

559 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:07:23am

re: #551 realwest

If she’s anything like me she’s in favor of modern, indoor, working plumbing

560 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:08:02am

re: #559 bbuddha

If she’s anything like me she’s in favor of modern, indoor, working plumbing

She’s not the only one. I love indoor plumbing.

Real, do you not have a neighbor who would be willing to help? Or is the whole building down?

561 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:08:25am

re: #545 KenJen
Well shoot, they’re just “celebrating” the passage of a known celebrity - in their usual “lighthearted and customary way” - why, did someone else of some celebrity status pass away recently?!?

562 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:08:30am

re: #534 vxbush

Are you on Windows XP or Vista (or Linux or Mac OS X)? I might be able to help you diagnose the problem. A tiny bit.

Stonemason - pay attention!
vxbush is awesome (helped me figure something out a few weeks ago).

563 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:09:07am

re: #558 yma o hyd

WTF is that supposed to ‘celebrate’?

Teddy Kennedy ‘going to heaven’?

(Sorry, Lizards - I really couldn’t help meself …!)

That looks like a michael jackson move.

564 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:09:11am

re: #556 vxbush

I’m actually trying that now. Feels a bit like some kind of counterterrorism thriller right now.

565 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:09:18am

re: #562 reine.de.tout

Stonemason - pay attention!
vxbush is awesome (helped me figure something out a few weeks ago).

Oh, pshaw. Seriously, what I know is pretty minimal compared to network operators.

566 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:09:32am

re: #554 realwest

re: #556 vxbush

Yes Real, that has been done during the troubles, the problem only affects LGF, I can access all other sites on the ‘net with FireFox and Safari.

567 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:10:10am

re: #565 vxbush

Oh, pshaw. Seriously, what I know is pretty minimal compared to network operators.

But pretty maximal compared to the rest of us!

568 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:10:58am

re: #555 HoosierHoops


You made me blush, {HH}!
I hope you enjoy working on your tan - and give that winston a cwtch*) from me!

Findind something to laugh about, even when everything is pretty dark, is the best thing anybody can do, thats for sure!


*) ‘cwtch’ is welsh for cuddle, and the ‘w’ is pronounced ‘u’, as in ‘good’ …

569 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:11:13am

re: #555 HoosierHoops
“You need to laugh…”
Whaddya crazy? I’ve had two HUGE mugs of coffee, the last thing I need to do is laugh! LOL!
(crossing legs under computer desk!).

570 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:11:16am

re: #561 realwest

Well shoot, they’re just “celebrating” the passage of a known celebrity - in their usual “lighthearted and customary way” - why, did someone else of some celebrity status pass away recently?!?

Celebrities in my little world.

re: #421 JCM

Morning Honcos!

Rise please.

Four Fort Lewis soldiers die in action

Captain John Hallet
Captain Cory Jenkins
Sgt. Ron Sawyer
Pfc. Dennis Williams

Rest in Peace, may God grant comfort to the families.


571 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:12:21am

re: #569 realwest

“You need to laugh…”
Whaddya crazy? I’ve had two HUGE mugs of coffee, the last thing I need to do is laugh! LOL!
(crossing legs under computer desk!).

I don’t suppose there is a restaurant close enough you can use their facilities? Seriously, McDonald’s can be a lifesaver sometimes.

572 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:12:23am

re: #569 realwest

“You need to laugh…”
Whaddya crazy? I’ve had two HUGE mugs of coffee, the last thing I need to do is laugh! LOL!
(crossing legs under computer desk!).

Just for you…

*ducks*

573 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:12:39am

re: #560 vxbush
Apparently the whole building is down. And Mom’s real particular about using toilets that she ain’t cleaned herself!

574 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:12:51am

re: #563 reine.de.tout

That looks like a michael jackson move.

Just goes to show how much that Michael-Jackson-stuff has passed me by …

Hiya, {reine}!

575 itellu3times  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:13:06am

re: #552 laZardo

The science is blinding!

/helpful though, thanks

The summary is that the brightest LEDs are the least efficient, as you push the current to get more brightness, the efficiency “droops”.

576 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:13:44am

re: #572 JCM
I’ll get you for that, so help me!

Whoops - water companies here and they’re just standing there shooting the breeze with our handyman.

BBIAW!

577 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:13:58am

re: #573 realwest

Apparently the whole building is down. And Mom’s real particular about using toilets that she ain’t cleaned herself!

Ah. I understand. Well, nature will perhaps change her mind today. That, or she can take her bleach and rag with her!

578 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:14:16am

re: #421 JCM

Morning Honcos!

Rise please.

Four Fort Lewis soldiers die in action

Captain John Hallet
Captain Cory Jenkins
Sgt. Ron Sawyer
Pfc. Dennis Williams

Rest in Peace, may God grant comfort to the families.


[Video]

One of my FB friends from high school has a son with that group of soldiers; her son is OK.
May they rest in peace.

579 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:15:11am

re: #573 realwest

Apparently the whole building is down. And Mom’s real particular about using toilets that she ain’t cleaned herself!

I’m so totally with your Mom, in that respect!

Mind - the males of the human species still (and unfairly, imho!) have the option of going outside and hide behind a thick bush or tree to do the needful …

580 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:15:14am

re: #575 itellu3times

The summary is that the brightest LEDs are the least efficient, as you push the current to get more brightness, the efficiency “droops”.

Got a group in my company working on the control side of the problem. The TAM (Total Available Market) in lighting is huge.

581 ArmyWife  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:15:43am

Least we think the right has sole proprietorship over loons:

[Link: www.breitbart.tv…]

LA Congresswoman Praises Cuban Revolution & Castro’s Health Care System

582 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:16:16am

re: #556 vxbush

When I type tracert and the adresss with no space I am told: is not recognized as an internal or external command.
when I type it with a space after tracert I get: unable to resolve target system name

583 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:16:28am

re: #574 yma o hyd

Just goes to show how much that Michael-Jackson-stuff has passed me by …

Hiya, {reine}!

Mornin’ {yma}!
Sounds like all is well with you today.
good to hear it!

584 Kenneth  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:16:57am

re: #568 yma o hyd

In American slang, the world “cooch” has an interesting meaning, but it is perhaps not what you meant.

585 KenJen  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:18:04am

re: #561 realwest

Well shoot, they’re just “celebrating” the passage of a known celebrity - in their usual “lighthearted and customary way” - why, did someone else of some celebrity status pass away recently?!?

I think they are celebrating M.J.s birthday. It’s stooopid.

586 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:18:07am

re: #582 Stonemason

When I type tracert and the adresss with no space I am told: is not recognized as an internal or external command.
when I type it with a space after tracert I get: unable to resolve target system name

Okay, can you try the following?

tracert [Link: www.google.com...]

Yes, you need a space between the tracert and the web address.

587 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:19:01am

re: #586 vxbush

Okay, can you try the following?

tracert [Link: www.google.com...]

Yes, you need a space between the tracert and the web address.

Gah, sorry, stonemason, Charles’ autoconvert code for web sites is tripping me up here. Put in

tracert [web address]

where the web address is for Google’s site.

588 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:19:32am

re: #583 reine.de.tout

Mornin’ {yma}!
Sounds like all is well with you today.
good to hear it!

Yeah - its been nice and sunny all day, albeit with a fierce and cold NW wind.
So all that sun must have gone to my head - we’re not used to this any more!

(Rain tomorrow … and Monday, which is a Bank Holiday …)

589 Kenneth  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:19:48am

Tariq Ramadan Repudiated

In an important development for the fight against extremist Islam in the West, the Dutch city of Rotterdam and Erasmus University Rotterdam have dismissed Tariq Ramadan, the Swiss-born Islamist academic, from his two local jobs.

…His simultaneous dismissal from the Rotterdam city post and the Erasmus appointment was announced on August 19. The specific reason: his weekly television program on PressTV, an Iranian government media network which operates studios in Britain and the U.S. in addition, of course, to the Middle East. PressTV also employs British politician George Galloway of the leftist-Islamist electoral alliance known as the Respect Party, and Yvonne Ridley, a former captive of the Taliban who became Muslim after her kidnapping.

Ramadan’s PressTV show was titled “Islam and Life” — not very different, one might note, from the notorious “Shariah and Life” feature run by al-Qaradawi on Al-Jazeera. Al-Qaradawi has used that platform for outrageous sermons against Jews and Judaism, among other objectionable opinions that support the British decision to keep him out.

590 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:20:27am

re: #588 yma o hyd

Yeah - its been nice and sunny all day, albeit with a fierce and cold NW wind.
So all that sun must have gone to my head - we’re not used to this any more!

(Rain tomorrow … and Monday, which is a Bank Holiday …)

Wish we had a bit of a cool breeze.

Yma - I’ve always wondered this … what is a “Bank Holiday”?

591 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:21:08am

re: #582 Stonemason
I’m gonna suggest again that you try recycling your modem.
Now I gotta run cause Rota-Rooter or whomever is using OUR electrical out lets and we’ve got power and lights wavering and blinking!

See y’all later, I hope!

592 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:21:18am

re: #584 Kenneth

In American slang, the world “cooch” has an interesting meaning, but it is perhaps not what you meant.

Absolutely not!
Definitely not!
The idea!

Us Welsh have been brought up nicely!

593 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:22:46am

re: #587 vxbush

I got it (and AOL is killing me with the herky jerks and long times for posts!)

Okay, the list for the google address is 14 steps, starting with my modem 192.168.0.1, timing out once, and ending at google through all kinds of stuff. Is there a way to copy that text for you? do you need it?

594 KenJen  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:24:20am

www.wave3.com...]>www.wave3.com…]>Louisville man arrested for death threats against witnesses/a> He had a military contract. He’s accused of defective repair on the Navy Seahawks and Army Blackhawks.

595 Kenneth  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:25:01am

re: #592 yma o hyd

I wouldn’t want an international incident as a result of a misunderstanding of a perfectly good welsh word like “cwtch”.

596 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:25:35am

re: #590 reine.de.tout

Wish we had a bit of a cool breeze.

Yma - I’ve always wondered this … what is a “Bank Holiday”?

Its a Public Holiday, one which has nothing to do with any religious holidays.
Its called ‘Bank Holiday’ because the banks are all closed on that day.
These Bank Holidays have been created by various governments, to give the workers some extra free days.
This particular August Bank Holiday used to be the first Monday in August - but the government changed it to the last one because the weather was so bad, for a few years running, when it was on the first Monday.

Well - we think that no matter what, you can bank on it that on any given Bank Holiday it will surely rain!

597 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:26:52am

re: #595 Kenneth

I wouldn’t want an international incident as a result of a misunderstanding of a perfectly good welsh word like “cwtch”.

Good-oh!

:-)))

598 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:27:06am

re: #593 Stonemason

I got it (and AOL is killing me with the herky jerks and long times for posts!)

Okay, the list for the google address is 14 steps, starting with my modem 192.168.0.1, timing out once, and ending at google through all kinds of stuff. Is there a way to copy that text for you? do you need it?

No, I don’t need the actual list. I just wanted to make sure that you could get to Google.

So when you tried the same thing with LGF, it came back as unknown, right? So let’s try this:

tracert 74.86.198.236

That IP address maps to LGF.

599 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:28:12am

re: #596 yma o hyd

Its a Public Holiday, one which has nothing to do with any religious holidays.
Its called ‘Bank Holiday’ because the banks are all closed on that day.
These Bank Holidays have been created by various governments, to give the workers some extra free days.
This particular August Bank Holiday used to be the first Monday in August - but the government changed it to the last one because the weather was so bad, for a few years running, when it was on the first Monday.

Well - we think that no matter what, you can bank on it that on any given Bank Holiday it will surely rain!

Thank you kindly!

Sounds a bit like our “labor day”, except we only have one during the year.

601 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:30:54am

re: #599 reine.de.tout

Thank you kindly!

Sounds a bit like our “labor day”, except we only have one during the year.

We’ve got a few, the May Day holiday is one as well - its been shifted from May 1st to the first Monday in May … because it makes it easier for the working population to have a nice long weekend, and forget about the workers’ tradition!

(Yep - it usually rains on that Monday!)

602 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:31:04am

re: #598 vxbush

That worked…14 steps, trace complete

603 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:34:08am

re: #602 Stonemason

That worked…14 steps, trace complete

Okay, so the problem seems to be an issue with your DNS resolution. Your computer can find the IP address, but it doesn’t know how to convert the nice name (LGF. com) to the IP address.

So: Let’s see if this fixes the problem. Type in:

ipconfig /flushdns

Wait a minute, and then try to do

tracert [web site]

Where the website is LGF.

604 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:34:16am

Just found this interesting opinion:

Assisted suicide could be excuse to kill burdensome elderly, says police chief

From that link:
‘Barbara Wilding, the longest serving female chief constable, said that a growing rift between young and old generations, combined with the pressures of an ageing population, is a significant challenge for police.

“Elderly abuse is something that we have yet to really grasp,” she said in an interview with The Daily Telegraph. “It is one of the things that I think will be the next social explosion.”
She drew comparisons with the first discovery of widespread child abuse in Britain in the 1970s, and said that the abuse of the elderly was “the same sort of social issue - it can be covered up and the victims do not have a voice.”

Asked about the potential impact of changing the law of assisted suicide, which is currently illegal, Miss Wilding replied: “From a policing perspective we need to be very careful on this to make sure it does not become a way of getting rid of a burden. I will be watching any change in legislation very carefully”. ‘

(Barbara Wilding was the Chief Constable of our police force here in South Wales - she is retiring now.)

605 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:35:35am

re: #604 yma o hyd

Just found this interesting opinion:

Assisted suicide could be excuse to kill burdensome elderly, says police chief

From that link:
‘Barbara Wilding, the longest serving female chief constable, said that a growing rift between young and old generations, combined with the pressures of an ageing population, is a significant challenge for police.

“Elderly abuse is something that we have yet to really grasp,” she said in an interview with The Daily Telegraph. “It is one of the things that I think will be the next social explosion.”
She drew comparisons with the first discovery of widespread child abuse in Britain in the 1970s, and said that the abuse of the elderly was “the same sort of social issue - it can be covered up and the victims do not have a voice.”

Asked about the potential impact of changing the law of assisted suicide, which is currently illegal, Miss Wilding replied: “From a policing perspective we need to be very careful on this to make sure it does not become a way of getting rid of a burden. I will be watching any change in legislation very carefully”. ‘

(Barbara Wilding was the Chief Constable of our police force here in South Wales - she is retiring now.)

Actually, I’m glad to see she’s paying attention.

606 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:36:45am

re: #605 vxbush

Yep - and she does know a thing or two about policing!

607 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:37:16am

re: #603 vxbush

Flush successful, still not able to resolve LGF

608 cliffster  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:39:01am

re: #607 Stonemason

Flush successful, still not able to resolve LGF

Maybe you’re coming in off Time Warner and they are refusing to dns littlegreenfootballs.com! /

609 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:41:22am

re: #607 Stonemason

Flush successful, still not able to resolve LGF

Okay. Then I am left to conclude that, for whatever reason, Comcast doesn’t know about LGF, which is super weird. They would have multiple DNS servers across their network, so just because folks on Comcast in other areas can get to LGF doesn’t mean you can. I’m guessing AOL has it’s own DNS server when you go through AOL. It’s about the only thing that makes sense.

I would suggest you contact Comcast and let them know. I have no idea if they’ll be responsive, but it’s all I can think of.

610 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:43:51am

Hey, stonemason, for now, you can try putting in the IP address for LGF in Firefox, and it should still find the site:

74.86.198.236

That would allow you to get around having to use AOL.

611 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:45:17am

Good morning all!

Yma-

Looks like She Who Must Be Obeyed and I will be hopping the pond near Christmas this year. Her sister is finally marrying her significant other. So it’s a trip to the lovely but unfortunately named burg of Leighton Buzzard, Beds, for us.

612 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:45:52am

re: #609 vxbush


thank you very much for your help, if Comcast is helpful I will be back, faster…

613 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:47:35am

re: #610 vxbush

Hey, stonemason, for now, you can try putting in the IP address for LGF in Firefox, and it should still find the site:

74.86.198.236

That would allow you to get around having to use AOL.

I did that and it took me to:

Great Success !
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614 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:47:38am

How about that, then:

Poland Without Missile Defence

From that link:
‘The US plans for building elements of the missile defence system in Poland and the Czech Republic are virtually certain to be abandoned, say Gazeta’s sources in Washington.’

And:
Obama’s people believe that many global problems will be more easily solved together with Moscow,’ says Mr Ellison. ‘It’s about priorities. For many Democrats, disarmament is a priority and to reach a new strategic weapons reduction agreement with Russia, they are prepared to sacrifice a lot. Which doesn’t mean that they are soft and naive,’ explains the lobbyist.’
(My emphasis)

Hah!
Solve problems ‘together with Moscow’?
Naaa - not naive, of course not!

615 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:48:20am

Oh come on! My 19 year old Magnavox TV just died. The smell of ozone is awful.

616 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:48:28am

re: #611 austin_blue

Good morning all!

Yma-

Looks like She Who Must Be Obeyed and I will be hopping the pond near Christmas this year. Her sister is finally marrying her significant other. So it’s a trip to the lovely but unfortunately named burg of Leighton Buzzard, Beds, for us.

Morning Austin!

Merry ole England for the Holidays!

617 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:48:32am

re: #293 BatGuano

I heard “Silence of the Lambs” was scary. I like a good love story!

It would be scarier if they made it a musical.

618 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:48:41am

re: #581 ArmyWife

Least we think the right has sole proprietorship over loons:

[Link: www.breitbart.tv…]

LA Congresswoman Praises Cuban Revolution & Castro’s Health Care System

Then she goes on to say:

LA Rep: ObamaCare Opponents Want to Destroy ‘First President Who Looks Like Me’

619 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:49:31am

re: #615 midwestgak

Oh come on! My 19 year old Magnavox TV just died. The smell of ozone is awful.

Shoot yer’ TV!

Sorry to hear that!

620 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:49:38am

re: #618 unrealizedviewpoint

Some animals are apparently more equal than others.

621 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:49:45am

re: #614 yma o hyd

I wonder if BHO has read Nietzsche since he acts a lot like a man trying to will things into being.

622 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:49:53am

re: #615 midwestgak

Oh come on! My 19 year old Magnavox TV just died. The smell of ozone is awful.

Target practice!

623 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:50:01am

re: #615 midwestgak

Oh come on! My 19 year old Magnavox TV just died. The smell of ozone is awful.

That oughta counter a few wasted cans of aerosols. q;

624 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:50:04am

re: #620 laZardo

Some animals are apparently more equal than others.

Pigs Rule!

625 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:50:17am

re: #614 yma o hyd

the depths of this administrations ignorance, or stupidity, still has the power to surprise me.

626 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:50:29am

re: #615 midwestgak

Oh come on! My 19 year old Magnavox TV just died. The smell of ozone is awful.

Now you can upgrade!

627 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:50:39am

re: #624 calcajun

I’m fine being an ass.

/ q:

628 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:50:40am

re: #613 Stonemason

I did that and it took me to:

Great Success !
Apache is working on your cPanel® and WHM™ Server

If you can see this page, then the people who manage this server have installed cPanel and WebHost Manager (WHM) which use the Apache Web server software and the Apache Interface to OpenSSL (mod_ssl) successfully. They now have to add content to this directory and replace this placeholder page, or else point the server at their real content.
ATTENTION!

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About cPanel:

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About Apache HTTP Server:

The Apache HTTP Server is an open source web server which powers many of the worlds web sites. The Apache HTTP server is part of the Apache Group’s many influential projects. Their efforts have helped shape much the world wide web, and they continue to be a dominating force in the web hosting industry.

Ah, sorry about that. I forgot that Charles is using a hosting provider. Most of those places can have just one IP address and they use software to control which page you see based on which DNS name you ask for.

Rats. I still say it’s Comcast’s fault, as their DNS resolver isn’t giving you the IP address for LGF. It’s not the fault of Charles or of Hosting Matters, his provider.

629 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:51:11am

re: #615 midwestgak

Oh come on! My 19 year old Magnavox TV just died. The smell of ozone is awful.

Well, time to trade up.

And Mandy’s right—-target practice time.

630 Stonemason  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:51:47am

re: #628 vxbush


thanks again, I will keep working on it with Comcast

631 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:51:48am

re: #606 yma o hyd
Hey yma - all the more reason for y’all to give the folks over there the right own firearms.
Long as Mr. Mossburg is in residence, there won’t be any “elderly abuse” ‘round here.

632 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:51:50am

re: #611 austin_blue

Good morning all!

Yma-

Looks like She Who Must Be Obeyed and I will be hopping the pond near Christmas this year. Her sister is finally marrying her significant other. So it’s a trip to the lovely but unfortunately named burg of Leighton Buzzard, Beds, for us.

Hiya - never been to that place, meself, I haven’t, so I couldn’t possibly comment!

But do pack some waterproofs, warm clothes and warm under- as well as night-wear!
Central heating has found its way to Great Britain - but the room temperatures are certainly lower than in the USA, around 65 F.

We’re used to it, sigh …

633 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:51:50am

re: #626 JCM

Now you can upgrade!

Really, to enjoy a TV that size, you need a room that is what, 60’ long?

634 cliffster  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:52:03am

re: #628 vxbush

Ah, sorry about that. I forgot that Charles is using a hosting provider. Most of those places can have just one IP address and they use software to control which page you see based on which DNS name you ask for.

Rats. I still say it’s Comcast’s fault, as their DNS resolver isn’t giving you the IP address for LGF. It’s not the fault of Charles or of Hosting Matters, his provider.

Put the IP into the host file.

635 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:52:25am

re: #633 vxbush

Really, to enjoy a TV that size, you need a room that is what, 60’ long?

Or high?

636 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:52:47am

re: #614 yma o hyd

I hope all those Euroweenies are fucking happy now.

637 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:53:43am

re: #634 cliffster

Put the IP into the host file.

But will that work on Windows? And what if Hosting Matters changes IPs, for some reason? I hate hard-coding a solution when Comcast should solve it.

638 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:53:49am

re: #621 calcajun

I wonder if BHO has read Nietzsche since he acts a lot like a man trying to will things into being.

Heh.
He’s probably ‘read’ a few quotations …

639 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:53:51am

re: #631 realwest

Alas, some elderly could not wield such a weapon. A .380 or a .32 might do, though.

640 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:53:56am

re: #618 unrealizedviewpoint

Then she goes on to say:

LA Rep: ObamaCare Opponents Want to Destroy ‘First President Who Looks Like Me’

And y’all know that’s bullshit - Obama is much better looking than her!

641 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:54:07am

I woke late, & now watching the funeral. I don’t know if has Obama has done his eulogy for Senator Kennedy yet? I’m curious if he mentioned ObamaCare KennedyCare?

642 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:54:59am

re: #581 ArmyWife

Least we think the right has sole proprietorship over loons:

[Link: www.breitbart.tv…]

LA Congresswoman Praises Cuban Revolution & Castro’s Health Care System

Mark Lloyd, FCBBHO’s “diversity officer” praised Chavez.

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com…]

643 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:55:13am

re: #626 JCM

Now you can upgrade!

One of my teachers from a couple semesters ago is pushing this new concept for this interactive LCD TV. I think it’s suspiciously similar to something by Samsung but a little competition never hurt anyone.

644 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:55:18am

re: #619 JCM

Shoot yer’ TV!

Sorry to hear that!

Funny how life works. My neighbor gave me his JVC TV a month ago. He bought a flat screen and didn’t need the JVC anymore. Funny how life works.

645 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:55:20am

re: #638 yma o hyd

Heh.
He’s probably ‘read’ a few quotations …

Ha— he was probably given the most recent version of “Bartlett’s Familiar Quotations” by someone who thought it was a collection of sayings from “The West Wing”

646 Shug  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:55:38am

I know we’re not supposed to advocate violence here so I won’t but I pray this sick motherf***er gets what he deserves

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

647 cliffster  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:55:44am

re: #637 vxbush

But will that work on Windows? And what if Hosting Matters changes IPs, for some reason? I hate hard-coding a solution when Comcast should solve it.

Well yeah, I’d say put it in the hostfile so it works for now, and call Comcast. And I’m only half joking saying that ISP’s might be refusing to DNS the name…

648 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:56:00am

re: #640 realwest

Either that or he plays dress-up? Ew.

649 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:56:38am

re: #625 bbuddha

the depths of this administrations ignorance, or stupidity, still has the power to surprise me.

Well - it looks as if the whole lot seem to think that history starts with them. Anything that happened before is ‘old’ and uninteresting.

Disregarding the history of the Soviet Union, and what happened there after 1989, as well as being oblivious to Putin, is one of the biggest msitakes they can possibly make.

650 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:57:06am

re: #643 laZardo

One of my teachers from a couple semesters ago is pushing this new concept for this interactive LCD TV. I think it’s suspiciously similar to something by Samsung but a little competition never hurt anyone.

So it’s a computer with a giant screen. Forgive me, but whoop-de-doo.

651 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:57:13am

re: #626 JCM

Now you can upgrade!

Oh my. Don’t I wish!

652 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:57:16am

re: #640 realwest

And y’all know that’s bullshit - Obama is much better looking than her!

When the dumb (low iq) congresscritter’s (like her) speak they tell us exactly what they think. Their socialists beliefs come right out, they don’t know how to hide it.

653 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:57:17am

re: #639 calcajun

Alas, some elderly could not wield such a weapon. A .380 or a .32 might do, though.

I have a mossburg .410. It isn’t hard to handle. Not that heavy either. If you want a handgun though, a Glock 9mm is nice

654 Truck Monkey  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:57:25am

re: #641 unrealizedviewpoint

I woke late, & now watching the funeral. I don’t know if has Obama has done his eulogy for Senator Kennedy yet? I’m curious if he mentioned ObamaCare KennedyCare?

Not yet. One of Teds grandchildren did offer up the universal health care plea in the “lord hear our prayer” section of the mass. I found it slightly distasteful. It hasn’t been all bad. Wellstone memorial it is not.

655 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:57:37am

re: #647 cliffster

Well yeah, I’d say put it in the hostfile so it works for now, and call Comcast. And I’m only half joking saying that ISP’s might be refusing to DNS the name…

True, that would not surprise me.

656 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:58:46am

re: #646 Shug

I know we’re not supposed to advocate violence here so I won’t but I pray this sick motherf***er gets what he deserves

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

I’m a believer in Karma. It will catch up to him.

657 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:59:04am

re: #654 Truck Monkey

Not yet. One of Teds grandchildren did offer up the universal health care plea in the “lord hear our prayer” section of the mass. I found it slightly distasteful. It hasn’t been all bad. Wellstone memorial it is not.

Ah, but imagine if it had happened right before the 2010 elections…

658 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:59:06am

re: #616 JCM

Morning Austin!

Merry ole England for the Holidays!

We go to Edinburgh every spring and try to get over for at least one week in summer (She is a harpist. The craft must be honed!). But this is our first Holiday season jaunt. And we have to fly into Heathrow from Houston, which is always dicey. Most of the English are all too aware that London Heathrow and the M-25 are two of the outer circles of hell made real on this earth.

659 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:59:10am

re: #643 laZardo

One of my teachers from a couple semesters ago is pushing this new concept for this interactive LCD TV. I think it’s suspiciously similar to something by Samsung but a little competition never hurt anyone.

I know we can call it a Telescreen!

//

Pretty sweet, rolling it all in one.

660 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 8:59:17am

re: #615 midwestgak

Oh come on! My 19 year old Magnavox TV just died. The smell of ozone is awful.

{gak}
Just not your day today, is it?

The good news … if you don’t want a fancy flat-panel HD tv, you can get a regular old TV for virtually nothing.

661 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:00:07am

re: #650 vxbush

Least you don’t have to get a TV-In/-Out card for it.

662 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:00:33am

re: #654 Truck Monkey

Not yet. One of Teds grandchildren did offer up the universal health care plea in the “lord hear our prayer” section of the mass. I found it slightly distasteful. It hasn’t been all bad. Wellstone memorial it is not.

I don’t think they can do much damage to their cause. Saturday morning ratings can’t be too good… And folks specifically tuning in, probably support KennedyCare already.

663 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:00:52am

re: #631 realwest

Hey yma - all the more reason for y’all to give the folks over there the right own firearms.
Long as Mr. Mossburg is in residence, there won’t be any “elderly abuse” ‘round here.

The really sad thing is that our Bill of Rights 1689 gives us the right to bear arms - and this has not been superseded, afaik.

Unfortunately, its been hedged about by different administrative orders, so right now only the criminals make use of that right …

664 sattv4u2  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:01:04am

re: #659 JCM

I know we can call it a Telescreen!

//

Pretty sweet, rolling it all in one.

And if they make one in pastels and attach a purse to it, they can call it a TeleTubbyScreen!

665 reine.de.tout  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:01:16am

re: #581 ArmyWife

Least we think the right has sole proprietorship over loons:

[Link: www.breitbart.tv…]

LA Congresswoman Praises Cuban Revolution & Castro’s Health Care System

Oh, golly!
Just to clarify:
that’s LA Los Angeles,
not LA Louisiana.
thank goodness.

666 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:01:22am

OK— let pick y’all brains on this. I built a movie room for the family ‘bout three years ago and bought an InFocus DLP projector and made a screen with screen paint and everything. It threw a pretty good 10’ image. Worked very well until earlier this year the picture started to degrade right before the bulb blew (literally). It’s almost $300 for a new bulb. But the drawback is you can only watch in a very dark room and the family wants to watch earlier in the day.

Should I buy the bulb—and risk it blowing again (the service cost is pretty high on the thing, too) or save my pennies and get a new(er) LCD/plasma—which will be smaller than the projected image?

Thoughts are welcome.

667 vxbush  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:01:49am

re: #661 laZardo

Least you don’t have to get a TV-In/-Out card for it.

Eh, I suppose that’s true, but TVs and computers are quickly merging, so I expect all computers to have digital tuners in them before too long.

668 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:02:09am

Shortly after two women gained power of attorney from a dying 83-year-old relative, they took all of her possessions and sold her house of 56 years, police said.

The pair pocketed the $235,000 from the house sale and cleaned out the elderly woman’s bank accounts and savings, sharing the money among themselves and family members, police and prosecutors say. They also arranged and pre-paid for her funeral.

However, Evelyn Roth made an amazing recovery and had no idea what her relatives were up to.

Now the two suspects, Roth’s cousin Virginia Ann Kuehn, 66, and her niece Kathleen Sue Jingling, 53, face a 35-count felony indictment charging them with first-degree criminal mistreatment, aggravated theft and first-degree theft. They’ve pleaded not guilty.

SNIP

[Link: www.oregonlive.com…]

669 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:02:24am

re: #636 MandyManners
Well I guarantee you that the Poles and Czechs ain’t happy at all - they moved forward with the concept while the Soviet Union Russia invaded the independent Republic of Georgia and while Russia was threatening the Ukraine.
Course, since President Obama couldn’t bring himself to even use the words “democracy” and “freedom” while the Iranian dissidents were being killed and beaten and imprisoned, I reckon Russia ain’t gonna worry about doing what it wants to with Poland, Czech, or Ukraine for that matter.
In fact, I wonder how many of our “allies” now love and respect us more since President Obama took office?

670 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:02:29am

re: #636 MandyManners

I hope all those Euroweenies are fucking happy now.

Heh.
Only the Euroweenies of the same political persuasion as FCBBHO!

The Poles and Czechs definitely are not!

671 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:02:35am

re: #653 bbuddha

Agreed. I have a Mossberg 590 and it is pretty easy to load and use—especially in the dark.

672 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:03:33am

re: #632 yma o hyd

Hiya - never been to that place, meself, I haven’t, so I couldn’t possibly comment!

But do pack some waterproofs, warm clothes and warm under- as well as night-wear!
Central heating has found its way to Great Britain - but the room temperatures are certainly lower than in the USA, around 65 F.

We’re used to it, sigh …

Well, we have spent 65 of the last 74 days over 38 C, so a bit of cool is longed for.

673 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:03:35am

re: #669 realwest

Well I guarantee you that the Poles and Czechs ain’t happy at all - they moved forward with the concept while the Soviet Union Russia invaded the independent Republic of Georgia and while Russia was threatening the Ukraine.
Course, since President Obama couldn’t bring himself to even use the words “democracy” and “freedom” while the Iranian dissidents were being killed and beaten and imprisoned, I reckon Russia ain’t gonna worry about doing what it wants to with Poland, Czech, or Ukraine for that matter.
In fact, I wonder how many of our “allies” now love and respect us more since President Obama took office?

“Ahmadinejad is the elected leader of Iran.” - Robert Gibbs

/ HURR

674 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:04:11am

re: #670 yma o hyd

Heh.
Only the Euroweenies of the same political persuasion as FCBBHO!

The Poles and Czechs definitely are not!

Probably not the Germans either.

Speaking of which it’s exactly 70 years since World War II started, this coming Tuesday.

675 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:04:39am

re: #658 austin_blue

We go to Edinburgh every spring and try to get over for at least one week in summer (She is a harpist. The craft must be honed!). But this is our first Holiday season jaunt. And we have to fly into Heathrow from Houston, which is always dicey. Most of the English are all too aware that London Heathrow and the M-25 are two of the outer circles of hell made real on this earth.

We spent a couple weeks way back when in Brighton.

Sir Ian Kemp, served with US Forces in Vietnam. Wrote a hard to find book A British GI in Vietnam.

676 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:04:48am

re: #671 calcajun

Now that is a plus :-)

677 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:05:06am

re: #664 sattv4u2

And if they make one in pastels and attach a purse to it, they can call it a TeleTubbyScreen!

But it would make our kids gay…

///

678 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:05:18am

re: #646 Shug

I know we’re not supposed to advocate violence here so I won’t but I pray this sick motherf***er gets what he deserves

[Link: news.yahoo.com…]

This is just so mind-boggling incredible, its simply beyond understanding.

Yeah - not advocating violence meself, but what about this nice wish:

‘May all your teeth fall out except one, for toothache!’

679 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:05:42am

re: #665 reine.de.tout

Oh, golly!
Just to clarify:
that’s LA Los Angeles,
not LA Louisiana.
thank goodness.

Rep. Diane Watson Wiki page

She’s in the running for America’s Dumbest CongressCritters, just behind Maxine Waters.

680 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:05:51am

re: #673 laZardo

“Ahmadinejad is the elected leader of Iran.” - Robert Gibbs

/ HURR

And we’re cutting aid to Honduras because they deposed a tyrant elected leader.

681 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:06:10am

re: #639 calcajun Yeah, you’re right about that, but still and all, a .32 or .380 would work just fine.
And as I said around HERE, Mr. Mossburg is in residence.

682 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:06:55am

re: #656 bbuddha

I’m a believer in Karma. It will catch up to him.

This monster, like a whole lot of other monsters, will be re-born as sardines: living in perpetual fear, chased across the oceans by sharks, gannets, dolphins - living to be eaten, living in fear.

Works for me …

683 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:07:19am

re: #681 realwest

Yeah, you’re right about that, but still and all, a .32 or .380 would work just fine.
And as I said around HERE, Mr. Mossburg is in residence.

Mr. Mossberg is a nice friend to have.

684 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:07:24am

re: #669 realwest

In fact, I wonder how many of our “allies” now love and respect us more since President Obama took office?


The treatment of Libya is the answer to that.

685 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:07:30am

re: #680 calcajun

And we’re cutting aid to Honduras because they deposed a tyrant elected leader.

IMO booting him out of the country was extreme but that doesn’t excuse what he did. They could have just launched articles of impeachment against him if the Congress and Courts were really that much against the referendum.

/I think.

686 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:08:07am

re: #678 yma o hyd

Nope— pliers and a blowtorch should do.

687 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:08:10am

re: #670 yma o hyd

Heh.
Only the Euroweenies of the same political persuasion as FCBBHO!

The Poles and Czechs definitely are not!

I said “Euroweenies”, not “Europeans”.

688 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:08:43am

re: #682 yma o hyd

You’re good. I’m still hoping for a little payback in this lifetime but if we must wait till the next…that works!

689 kansas  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:09:07am

Some more Hope and Change in a post racial America.

690 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:09:40am

re: #681 realwest

I’m biased toward my Mossburg, it was my first

691 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:09:46am

re: #672 austin_blue

Well, we have spent 65 of the last 74 days over 38 C, so a bit of cool is longed for.

Don’t rub it in, willya!
We’re happy here with 63/65 max temp, right now.
Thats outside.

Indoors - well, who puts the heating on in August …

692 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:09:49am

re: #680 calcajun

And we’re cutting aid to Honduras because they deposed a tyrant elected leader.

When will FCBBHO host a state dinner for Daniel Ortega?

693 MandyManners  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:10:08am

Man, I got sand in my shorts already.

694 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:10:09am

re: #649 yma o hyd
“Well - it looks as if the whole lot seem to think that history starts with them. Anything that happened before is ‘old’ and uninteresting.”
Y’all hit that out of the park. That’s exactly what is being exhibited here - if he can only “talk” to the Iranians, or the Norks or…
Must not have needed to take history in Occidental or Columbia.

695 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:10:32am

re: #681 realwest

Just the sound of racking a 12 gauge pump should do in most circumstances.

Had a friend who thought he was clever for having sabot rounds for home defense. Every cop I have talked to recommended 00 buck— it will clear a room and not go through drywall into another room.

696 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:10:48am

re: #685 laZardo

IMO booting him out of the country was extreme but that doesn’t excuse what he did. They could have just launched articles of impeachment against him if the Congress and Courts were really that much against the referendum.

/I think.

Sometimes you can’t let something like that in place to fester, like a tumor he had to be excised.

697 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:11:49am

re: #674 laZardo

Probably not the Germans either.

Speaking of which it’s exactly 70 years since World War II started, this coming Tuesday.

Indeed it is - and we’ll soon see the last of the vets of that war, sadly.

If ever there was a ‘just war’ - this was the one.

698 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:12:55am

re: #660 reine.de.tout

{gak}
Just not your day today, is it?

The good news … if you don’t want a fancy flat-panel HD tv, you can get a regular old TV for virtually nothing.

{reine} see #644

I saw your post earlier today. I pronounced reine in my head “rain” not “wren.”

Foreign languages. Kudos to all who have studied them.

699 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:13:29am

re: #689 kansas

Some more Hope and Change in a post racial America.


Too bad this Town Hall attendee (with the distasteful sign) protesting ØbamaCare KennedyCare, didn’t raise it again…he could have gotten himself arrested… then we’d have ourselves a meaty thread.

700 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:13:39am

re: #687 MandyManners

I said “Euroweenies”, not “Europeans”.

So you did!

;-))

701 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:13:48am

re: #695 calcajun

Just the sound of racking a 12 gauge pump should do in most circumstances.

Had a friend who thought he was clever for having sabot rounds for home defense. Every cop I have talked to recommended 00 buck— it will clear a room and not go through drywall into another room.

That’s my load out 00. SJHP for my handguns, won’t go down the block and through walls.

702 EaterOfFood  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:13:56am

re: #3 Opilio

Google “honors” Michael Jackson’s birthday with a commemorative logo, but ignored Abraham Lincoln’s 200th birthday back in February? What a bunch of tools.

Michael Jackson was able to become a success in part because of Abraham Lincoln.

703 ladycatnip  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:14:11am
Oh, golly!
Just to clarify:
that’s LA Los Angeles,
not LA Louisiana.
thank goodness.

Unfortunately I live in the greater L.A. area and believe me, our political landscape is full of these loons. Would love to ship them off somewhere - any takers?

704 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:14:11am

re: #695 calcajun

Just the sound of racking a 12 gauge pump should do in most circumstances.

Had a friend who thought he was clever for having sabot rounds for home defense. Every cop I have talked to recommended 00 buck— it will clear a room and not go through drywall into another room.

I talked to a couple of policemen before I purchased mine. I got the pump action for the deterrant effect, don’t want to clean up blood unless absolutely necessary.

705 cliffster  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:14:36am

re: #699 unrealizedviewpoint

Too bad this Town Hall attendee (with the distasteful sign) protesting ØbamaCare KennedyCare, didn’t raise it again…he could have gotten himself arrested… then we’d have ourselves a meaty thread.

You recycled this quote. Very green of you..

706 esch  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:14:47am

re: #699 unrealizedviewpoint

Too bad this Town Hall attendee (with the distasteful sign) protesting ØbamaCare KennedyCareChappaquiddaCare, didn’t raise it again…he could have gotten himself arrested… then we’d have ourselves a meaty thread.

ftfy

707 debutaunt  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:15:18am

re: #698 midwestgak

{reine} see #644

I saw your post earlier today. I pronounced reine in my head “rain” not “wren.”

Foreign languages. Kudos to all who have studied them.

I pronounce your name midwestgal.

708 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:15:27am

re: #704 bbuddha

I talked to a couple of policemen before I purchased mine. I got the pump action for the deterrant effect, don’t want to clean up blood unless absolutely necessary.

Have a service do it and send the bill to the miscreants family.

709 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:16:15am

re: #703 ladycatnip

Unfortunately I live in the greater L.A. area and believe me, our political landscape is full of these loons. Would love to ship them off somewhere - any takers?

Los Angeles is proof that the South is full of racists.

/ q:

710 unrealizedviewpoint  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:16:21am

re: #705 cliffster

You recycled this quote. Very green of you..

I punched it up a little too.

711 avanti  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:16:48am

re: #702 EaterOfFood

Michael Jackson was able to become a success in part because of Abraham Lincoln.

You can be assured Google will not notice Michael Jackson’s 200 birthday either.

712 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:16:56am

re: #707 debutaunt

I pronounce your name midwestgal.

Well pronounced.

713 Truck Monkey  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:17:11am

re: #702 EaterOfFood

Michael Jackson was able to become a success in part because of Abraham Lincoln.

It is indeed a little known fact that Abraham Lincoln wrote ‘Beat It’.
/

714 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:17:31am

re: #708 JCM

I love that idea!!!

715 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:17:47am

re: #680 calcajun

And we’re cutting aid to Honduras because they deposed a tyrant elected leader.

by an act of their duly elected Congress and the military acting under an order of the Honduran Supreme Court.
/spit.

716 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:18:08am

re: #713 Truck Monkey

And countered the Confederacy’s Rebel Yell with what would later become the Thriller Dance.

/

717 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:18:16am

re: #715 realwest
PIMF: *spit*

718 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:18:34am

re: #701 JCM

That’s my load out 00. SJHP for my handguns, won’t go down the block and through walls.

I load up 2-shot in my Mossburg pump for home defense. Nice spread, won’t kill the neighbors…

And Yma, constant temps over 38C is not bragging. It’s brutal. I envy the folks in the upper midwest of the US who are having one of the coolest summers on record. The drought down here is hellish. Stage two water restrictions, dead lawns, &c.

719 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:18:35am

re: #717 realwest

A period was fine too. >_>

720 debutaunt  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:19:27am

re: #712 midwestgak

Well pronounced.

However, if I need to clear my throat, I say it the original way.

721 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:19:37am

re: #697 yma o hyd

Also the American Civil War was just. And in fact if the Union had not persisted, and paid the price to get rid of the evil of slavery & keep the country together, the USA would not have been there to help stop Hitler. Only 80 years separate the two conflicts.

Everything you do counts for good or evil in ways that you cannot possibly imagine.

722 esch  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:20:28am

re: #715 realwest

by an act of their duly elected Congress and the military acting under an order of the Honduran Supreme Court.
/spit.

For me Honduras was the real acid test of Obama, and he failed in the worst way possible. I can’t wait to see how he retaliates against his ‘enemies’ once his poll numbers crater into Congressional territory. It’s not going to be pretty.

723 midwestgak  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:20:49am

re: #720 debutaunt

However, if I need to clear my throat, I say it the original way.

LOL.

724 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:21:09am

re: #695 calcajun
Um, I don’t know that I agree with the idea of 00 buck not going through drywall; but a 20 guage sounds just like a 12 gauge when you rack in a round!

725 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:22:29am

re: #724 realwest

Um, I don’t know that I agree with the idea of 00 buck not going through drywall; but a 20 guage sounds just like a 12 gauge when you rack in a round!

And if the sound doesn’t make them run, just consider yourself chlorine for the gene pool.

726 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:22:41am

re: #696 bbuddha

Sometimes you can’t let something like that in place to fester, like a tumor he had to be excised.


Not to mention he defied the order of the Honduran Supreme Court to step down from office - he hadda be escorted outta the Presdiential Palace in his jammies to get his ass outta there.

727 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:23:31am

re: #721 Ojoe

Also the American Civil War was just. And in fact if the Union had not persisted, and paid the price to get rid of the evil of slavery & keep the country together, the USA would not have been there to help stop Hitler. Only 80 years separate the two conflicts.

Everything you do counts for good or evil in ways that you cannot possibly imagine.

You can even to back to the 3/5ths compromise of the Constitutional convention. Without that there would not have been a Union, there would have been two nations. The compromise set the stage for the eventual showdown over slavery as it could not last.

While the compromise allowed for slavery and we paid a price for it. It also allowed for the Union to form, and everything that has come from it.

728 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:24:33am

re: #702 EaterOfFood

Michael Jackson was able to become a success in part because of Abraham Lincoln.

Not to mention the lives of hundreds of thousands of Union soldiers.

729 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:24:39am

re: #727 JCM

I had never thought of the 3/5 compromise that way, you make a great point.

730 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:25:43am

re: #721 Ojoe

Also the American Civil War was just. And in fact if the Union had not persisted, and paid the price to get rid of the evil of slavery & keep the country together, the USA would not have been there to help stop Hitler. Only 80 years separate the two conflicts.

Everything you do counts for good or evil in ways that you cannot possibly imagine.

Yes, the Civil War was just indeed!

Mind, I was thinking more of wars between nation states, where each and every opponent swore they alone were fighting the ‘just war’.

731 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:25:49am

re: #721 Ojoe

Also the American Civil War was just. And in fact if the Union had not persisted, and paid the price to get rid of the evil of slavery & keep the country together, the USA would not have been there to help stop Hitler. Only 80 years separate the two conflicts.

Everything you do counts for good or evil in ways that you cannot possibly imagine.

On the other hand, we would have had the Kaiser’s help in defeating the British and Russians.

/ah, turtledove.

732 Racer X  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:25:50am

re: #726 realwest

Not to mention he defied the order of the Honduran Supreme Court to step down from office - he hadda be escorted outta the Presdiential Palace in his jammies to get his ass outta there.

Honduras came this close to having another life long dictator like Hugo in place. They will NOT regret their actions.

733 Ojoe  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:26:26am

re: #730 yma o hyd

And hats off to William Wilberforce.

BBL

734 yma o hyd  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:27:22am

Aww - Madame has gone to the kitchen, yep, its see CARTOON!

BIAB!

735 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:27:34am

re: #666 calcajun

OK— let pick y’all brains on this. I built a movie room for the family ‘bout three years ago and bought an InFocus DLP projector and made a screen with screen paint and everything. It threw a pretty good 10’ image. Worked very well until earlier this year the picture started to degrade right before the bulb blew (literally). It’s almost $300 for a new bulb. But the drawback is you can only watch in a very dark room and the family wants to watch earlier in the day.

Should I buy the bulb—and risk it blowing again (the service cost is pretty high on the thing, too) or save my pennies and get a new(er) LCD/plasma—which will be smaller than the projected image?

Thoughts are welcome.

LCDs have come *way* down in price. I’ve got a 40” Sony Bravia that is killer bee. You can pick up a 1080 native for around $800 now. That’s Blue Ray definition and highly recommended.,

736 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:27:38am

re: #716 laZardo

And countered the Confederacy’s Rebel Yell with what would later become the Thriller Dance.

/

I thought it was the “moonwalk”?!
/

737 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:28:00am

re: #726 realwest

Not to mention he defied the order of the Honduran Supreme Court to step down from office - he hadda be escorted outta the Presdiential Palace in his jammies to get his ass outta there.

Hopefully our country will take the proper steps in 2012 and we won’t have a similar situation develop.

738 SixDegrees  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:28:08am

re: #614 yma o hyd

How about that, then:

Poland Without Missile Defence

From that link:
‘The US plans for building elements of the missile defence system in Poland and the Czech Republic are virtually certain to be abandoned, say Gazeta’s sources in Washington.’

And:
Obama’s people believe that many global problems will be more easily solved together with Moscow,’ says Mr Ellison. ‘It’s about priorities. For many Democrats, disarmament is a priority and to reach a new strategic weapons reduction agreement with Russia, they are prepared to sacrifice a lot. Which doesn’t mean that they are soft and naive,’ explains the lobbyist.’
(My emphasis)

Hah!
Solve problems ‘together with Moscow’?
Naaa - not naive, of course not!

How is this going to play with Moscow’s announcement that they’ll be deploying a missile defense system to guard against North Korean attacks?

739 cliffster  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:29:10am

re: #727 JCM

You can even to back to the 3/5ths compromise of the Constitutional convention. Without that there would not have been a Union, there would have been two nations. The compromise set the stage for the eventual showdown over slavery as it could not last.

While the compromise allowed for slavery and we paid a price for it. It also allowed for the Union to form, and everything that has come from it.

That’s an interesting take on it - temporary fix while we get our moral ducks in a row.

Although I’m not big on the Aggression of the Northerners, and I think it was way more than just “Southerners want slaves”, I’m glad that neither side of the mason dixon line has had slaves in a very long time and it may not have happened without northern aggression.

740 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:29:34am

re: #722 esch
“I can’t wait to see how he retaliates against his ‘enemies’ once his poll numbers crater into Congressional territory.”
I can.

741 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:30:27am

re: #726 realwest

Not to mention he defied the order of the Honduran Supreme Court to step down from office - he hadda be escorted outta the Presdiential Palace in his jammies to get his ass outta there.

Not to mention the fact that they did not summarily execute the guy—the drove him to the border.

742 SixDegrees  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:30:31am

re: #735 austin_blue

LCDs have come *way* down in price. I’ve got a 40” Sony Bravia that is killer bee. You can pick up a 1080 native for around $800 now. That’s Blue Ray definition and highly recommended.,

Also, there are LED screens beginning to come on the market that blow LCDs out of the water in terms of dynamic range - something like 2 million to 1. This will drive down the costs of LCD screens significantly.

743 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:30:45am

re: #729 Ojoe

I had never thought of the 3/5 compromise that way, you make a great point.

What many forget it was the Southern slave states that wanted to count slaves, to increase their power not for any consideration of slaves as people, if they had succeeded slavery would have been much harder to eradicate. The Northern state did not want to count slaves, not because they weren’t people but because they were not free, thereby decreasing the power of the south, and eventually eliminated slavery, which the South wasn’t going to tolerate.

However neither side would would concede that much, hence the compromise.

744 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:31:42am

re: #735 austin_blue

Thanks— looking for 52” or so— got spoiled with a 10’ screen.

745 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:31:55am

re: #739 cliffster

That’s an interesting take on it - temporary fix while we get our moral ducks in a row.

Although I’m not big on the Aggression of the Northerners, and I think it was way more than just “Southerners want slaves”, I’m glad that neither side of the mason dixon line has had slaves in a very long time and it may not have happened without northern aggression.

Slavery would have gone away even without the war. It would have become unsustainable from an economic viewpoint. less agrarian society and increased machinazation (no I can’t spell)

746 JCM  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:32:33am

re: #739 cliffster

That’s an interesting take on it - temporary fix while we get our moral ducks in a row.

Although I’m not big on the Aggression of the Northerners, and I think it was way more than just “Southerners want slaves”, I’m glad that neither side of the mason dixon line has had slaves in a very long time and it may not have happened without northern aggression.

The Civil War was more complex in origins, very true.

747 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:32:39am

re: #736 realwest

I thought it was the “moonwalk”?!
/

That was for training, mostly.

/

748 bbuddha  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:34:51am

Oh My, look at the time. Must go for now.

749 laZardo  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:34:58am

re: #748 bbuddha

Cheers.

750 cliffster  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:35:28am

re: #745 bbuddha

Slavery would have gone away even without the war. It would have become unsustainable from an economic viewpoint. less agrarian society and increased machinazation (no I can’t spell)

Yeah I know the argument, and it’s probably true. Reckon we’ll never know. Reckon it’s just as well.

751 calcajun  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:35:29am

off to salt mine on a Saturday.

Sigh

752 realwest  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:35:51am

Oooh! Looky, new thread > > > >

753 austin_blue  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:45:38am

re: #744 calcajun

Thanks— looking for 52” or so— got spoiled with a 10’ screen.

Check out the Samsungs. Same digital engine and screen that the Sony’s have, but at a discount.

754 Drider  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:38:51am

Yes sir Kansas, the video you showed is snap shot of the New America’s security force in action not too far down the line.
Every liberty we have is under relentless assault.

An individual’s personal information of Americans is gone if this “health bill” is passed.

1.Gov. has all medical records on everyone.
2.Gov has instant access to an individual’s back accounts via the IRS.
3.4.5.6…7…8…etc, etc.Gov will have control on anything and everything from food staples to luxuries that they feel will risk overburdening the system such as fat or sugar in foods as well as cigarettes and cigars and on and on and on not to mention an individuals activities that could be seen as a risk to ones (now the systems) health and on and on and on.

Liberties under assault outside the health care realm are geared towards thought or the suppression of it as they will go after radio, whats left of television and the Internet to simply turn off “all” programs that have opposing views to the system.

The video of this security guard is what I refer to as a snap shot, there are millions of these types of people who don’t need to be told or led to carry out orders from those who control the system, imagine if the powers in complete control at the moment “did” set up an organized legion f these types of people.

2 years ago we all heard wild prophecies from some people and we all laughed and joked about them, it is chilling to see many of these things actually being played out.

I suggest town hall meetings, attend them and hope that we aren’t in a “changed” political environment where the usual red flags that these crooks heed are ignored.

755 EaterOfFood  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 3:29:34pm

re: #711 avanti

You can be assured Google will not notice Michael Jackson’s 200 birthday either.

But the real tragedy is if they don’t notice Abe Lincoln’s 400th.

756 haakondahl  Sat, Aug 29, 2009 7:56:10pm

re: #326 iceweasel

Sorry, but that urban/urbane thing lost me.


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