Possibly the finest jazz piano trio ever: Keith Jarrett, Gary Peacock, and Jack DeJohnette, playing a classic Rodgers and Hart tune, “With a Song in My Heart.”
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ryannon Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:07:21pm |
And the limitless horizons of a fresh new thread...
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:09:14pm |
Is it just my imagination, or does it not seem that those most grateful to be Americans are not the richest or the most famous, but just the regular folks?
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Sharmuta Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:09:14pm |
I don't know what's more fascinating- the music or watching Keith.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:09:30pm |
Charles:
Possibly the finest jazz piano trio ever: Keith Jarrett, Gary Peacock, and Jack DeJohnette, playing a classic Rodgers and Hart tune, “With a Song in My Heart.”
I saw this jazz band once at the Great American Music Hall In SF years ago..
Their name was Oregon..And they just blew me away...I can't remember who they were but they were just monsters on the stage...
I should google them and download a CD
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Sharmuta Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:09:55pm |
re: #2 _RememberTonyC
Is it just my imagination, or does it not seem that those most grateful to be Americans are not the richest or the most famous, but just the regular folks?
I think it's the ones who happen to know what not being an American means.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:11:52pm |
re: #5 Sharmuta
I think it's the ones who happen to know what not being an American means.
I agree with you on that one. Those that have lived under actual tyranny and then moved to the USA are very mindful of their good fortune and would never take it for granted.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:12:51pm |
re: #2 _RememberTonyC
Is it just my imagination, or does it not seem that those most grateful to be Americans are not the richest or the most famous, but just the regular folks?
When you're rich and famous, you figure you'd be rich or famous anywhere.
When you're a plain American shmoe, you realize what a grand deal it is to be a plain American shmoe as opposed to a plain shmoe most other places.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:15:27pm |
re: #4 HoosierHoops
Charles:
Possibly the finest jazz piano trio ever: Keith Jarrett, Gary Peacock, and Jack DeJohnette, playing a classic Rodgers and Hart tune, “With a Song in My Heart.”
I saw this jazz band once at the Great American Music Hall In SF years ago..
Their name was Oregon..And they just blew me away...I can't remember who they were but they were just monsters on the stage...
I should google them and download a CD
Hoosier ... sorry I missed you last night when you addressed a Chipper Jones comment to me. Had to leave to watch "Hung" on HBO.
Chipper is just OLD, but he has a good chance at making it to Cooperstown eventually.
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solomonpanting Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:16:05pm |
Grandson sues to clear Stalin over killings
Stalin's grandson, Yevgeny Dzhugashvili, is seeking 9.5 million roubles ($299,000) from the Novaya Gazeta newspaper and 500,000 roubles from the author of an article published last April claiming Stalin personally signed politburo death orders.
Leonid Zhura, a convinced Stalinist who is representing Dzhugashvili in court, said that the article -- based on declassified Kremlin documents -- damaged Stalin's reputation.Ah ez speechless.
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jcm Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:16:35pm |
re: #2 _RememberTonyC
Is it just my imagination, or does it not seem that those most grateful to be Americans are not the richest or the most famous, but just the regular folks?
Some of the most grateful I've met are those who have first hand experience of various hell holes around the world.
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lawhawk Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:16:45pm |
This is funny. Apparently the NYT finds Jenna Bush going and working at the Today show is the death of the meritocracy in the US, but the Kennedy clan looking to have one of their own run for Ted's now vacant seat gets a pass.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:17:05pm |
re: #8 buzzsawmonkey
Now, here's a jazz trio: Wolverine Blues, by Jelly Roll Morton.
Jelly Roll...Just the best..My mom loved his stuff...
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:19:11pm |
if right is the opposite of left ... and
if right is the opposite of wrong ...
does it follow that left equals wrong?
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jcm Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:22:53pm |
re: #12 lawhawk
This is funny. Apparently the NYT finds Jenna Bush going and working at the Today show is the death of the meritocracy in the US, but the Kennedy clan looking to have one of their own run for Ted's now vacant seat gets a pass.
Kennedy's earned their dynasty status the old fashioned way, they bootlegged it. Bush's are upstarts in that nasty oil business.
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Earth56 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:24:24pm |
Lizards,
Well worth watching right now on NatGeoTV
9/11 :Science and Conspiracy
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Charles Johnson Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:24:57pm |
Ron Paul's racist pal Lew Rockwell has launched another attack against LGF at his site. We're a "reich wing site," according to creepy old Lew.
[Link: www.lewrockwell.com...]
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Earth56 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:25:16pm |
I should of added 9:pm EST and I guess the same time on the Pacific coast
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jcm Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:25:18pm |
re: #17 Earth56
Lizards,
Well worth watching right now on NatGeoTV
9/11 :Science and Conspiracy
Cool, are they going to use chicken wire and gas?
///
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:25:29pm |
re: #9 _RememberTonyC
Hoosier ... sorry I missed you last night when you addressed a Chipper Jones comment to me. Had to leave to watch "Hung" on HBO.
Chipper is just OLD, but he has a good chance at making it to Cooperstown eventually.
Hey you! I am so conflicted tonight watching MNF...
I am torn...I don't know who to root for..
Texas? They are in our division and we have had just the greatest football parties watching them get their asses kicked by the Colts...Good food..Cold Beer...and Texas getting beat.. It's a Hoosier tradition..
They are playing the Vikings tonight...I am rooting for the Texas D to just rip into Farve...And I mean this...Beat him badly...Farve has gone from the best story in Sports in the most embarrassing figure...I'm rooting against both teams! But mostly for Texas to knock down Farve's huge Ego...
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:25:36pm |
re: #11 jcm
Some of the most grateful I've met are those who have first hand experience of various hell holes around the world.
totally agree. but if you just look at native born Americans, doesn't it seem that the regular middle class folks are more proud of being Americans than the more privileged (and sometimes spoiled) upper classes who think that America isn't as good as some other places?
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mikalm Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:27:10pm |
re: #18 Charles
It seems to me Rockwell was using that phrase ironically, just as lefties often label other left-of-center sources, or themselves, as "moonbats".
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Earth56 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:27:16pm |
re: #20 jcm
It actually debunks the Troofers with a study done by civil engineers from Purdue College
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Sharmuta Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:27:34pm |
re: #18 Charles
Ron Paul's racist pal Lew Rockwell has launched another attack against LGF at his site. We're a "reich wing site," according to creepy old Lew.
[Link: www.lewrockwell.com...]
Interesting he critiques another site for name calling, then engages in it himself. Hypocrite.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:27:37pm |
re: #21 HoosierHoops
Hey you! I am so conflicted tonight watching MNF...
I am torn...I don't know who to root for..
Texas? They are in our division and we have had just the greatest football parties watching them get their asses kicked by the Colts...Good food..Cold Beer...and Texas getting beat.. It's a Hoosier tradition..
They are playing the Vikings tonight...I am rooting for the Texas D to just rip into Farve...And I mean this...Beat him badly...Farve has gone from the best story in Sports in the most embarrassing figure...I'm rooting against both teams! But mostly for Texas to knock down Farve's huge Ego...
I think ESPN should do a poll question that asks "which athlete are you most sick of?"
a. Brett Favre
b. Michael Vick
c. Terrell Owens
d. Alex Rodriguez
e. Kobe Bryant
Who would you vote for?
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livefreeor die Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:27:39pm |
re: #10 solomonpanting
Stalin's grandson, Yevgeny Dzhugashvili, is seeking 9.5 million roubles ($299,000) from the Novaya Gazeta newspaper and 500,000 roubles from the author of an article published last April claiming Stalin personally signed politburo death orders.
Leonid Zhura, a convinced Stalinist who is representing Dzhugashvili in court, said that the article -- based on declassified Kremlin documents -- damaged Stalin's reputation.Ah ez speechless
Umm...
Is this guy kidding?
I can't think of anything that could ruin Stalin's reputation.
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lawhawk Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:27:50pm |
re: #20 jcm
And they claim that the show itself is part of the conspiracy. I kid you not.
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livefreeor die Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:28:37pm |
re: #20 jcm
Cool, are they going to use chicken wire and gas?
///
Where did they put the poor bunnies this time?
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Earth56 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:28:59pm |
re: #29 lawhawk
Talking to one not long ago its a lost cause with them
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jaunte Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:29:13pm |
re: #30 buzzsawmonkey
Maybe he thinks this is a gathering place of "statists."
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:29:14pm |
re: #18 Charles
Ron Paul's racist pal Lew Rockwell has launched another attack against LGF at his site. We're a "reich wing site," according to creepy old Lew.
[Link: www.lewrockwell.com...]
if we judge a person by their friends and enemies, I'd say you're firmly in the "good guy" column.
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mikalm Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:29:40pm |
re: #28 livefreeor die
Umm...
Is this guy kidding?I can't think of anything that could ruin Stalin's reputation.
Stalin's still considered a hero for many Russians. They never were "de-Commified" in the same way Germany was "de-Nazified".
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jcm Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:29:52pm |
re: #22 _RememberTonyC
totally agree. but if you just look at native born Americans, doesn't it seem that the regular middle class folks are more proud of being Americans than the more privileged (and sometimes spoiled) upper classes who think that America isn't as good as some other places?
In general I would agree. I would maybe add another factor, those came up the hard way through blood, sweat and tears vs. those how either had a silver spoon, or those who had it handed to them (think Hollyweird types).
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livefreeor die Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:31:00pm |
re: #27 _RememberTonyC
I think ESPN should do a poll question that asks "which athlete are you most sick of?"
a. Brett Favre
b. Michael Vick
c. Terrell Owens
d. Alex Rodriguez
e. Kobe BryantWho would you vote for?
Wow, that's tough. Can we pick more than one?
I guess right now, with the current coverage, it's between Favre and Vick but I know Owens will be picking up once the season starts.
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solomonpanting Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:31:05pm |
re: #28 livefreeor die
Umm...
Is this guy kidding?I can't think of anything that could ruin Stalin's reputation.
Walter Duranty's grandson?
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:31:13pm |
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Irish Rose Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:32:04pm |
Good evening, lizards!
My Marine is out with his buddies for the evening, and the dishes are done, so I have some time to chat.
Charles, I just realized that you have my blog listed in the drop down menu on the sidebar... thanks!
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jcm Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:33:50pm |
re: #27 _RememberTonyC
I think ESPN should do a poll question that asks "which athlete are you most sick of?"
a. Brett Favre
b. Michael Vick
c. Terrell Owens
d. Alex Rodriguez
e. Kobe BryantWho would you vote for?
F. All the above.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:35:36pm |
re: #27 _RememberTonyC
I think ESPN should do a poll question that asks "which athlete are you most sick of?"
a. Brett Favre
b. Michael Vick
c. Terrell Owens
d. Alex Rodriguez
e. Kobe BryantWho would you vote for?
Personally? Kobe Bryant.
Media-wise? Brett Favre.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:35:40pm |
re: #27 _RememberTonyC
I think ESPN should do a poll question that asks "which athlete are you most sick of?"
a. Brett Favre
b. Michael Vick
c. Terrell Owens
d. Alex Rodriguez
e. Kobe BryantWho would you vote for?
I vote for Brett Favre, the "Drama Queen" of American sports
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subsailor68 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:37:39pm |
Hi all! Mrs. subsailor68 runs a senior center here in our town, and is sitting next to me right now to see what it's like to have folks respond to posts. (She's hoping that she may be able to start a blog where her seniors - and their families can talk to each other.) Please do me a favor and show her how questions and comments are bandied about.
Thanks!!!
(p.s. she thinks it may be a good way for seniors to stay in touch - what do you guys think?)
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livefreeor die Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:37:44pm |
re: #45 _RememberTonyC
I vote for Brett Favre, the "Drama Queen" of American sports
If you had told me three years ago that there would come a point when Favre would be easily viewed as a drama queen, I wouldn't have believed it.
Sigh.
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Pianobuff Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:38:01pm |
I got the impression that Keith kind of went his own way there at the end with the downward modulating stuff and that the others figured it out on the fly.
Amazing (even if that's not what happened).
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:38:24pm |
re: #45 _RememberTonyC
I vote for Brett Favre, the "Drama Queen" of American sports
I prefer to call him "The Biggest Attention Whore In The History Of Sports"
Doesn't roll off the tongue, but its true nonetheless.
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:39:26pm |
Nice selection for tunes tonight. It classes up the thread having that fine music playing in the background.
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jaunte Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:39:40pm |
re: #46 subsailor68
That sounds like a good idea; I hope the software they find is as easy to use as Charles has designed for this site.
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Irish Rose Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:39:48pm |
re: #46 subsailor68
I work with homebound seniors and I agree with your Mrs., it's a great idea.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:39:55pm |
re: #18 Charles
Ron Paul's racist pal Lew Rockwell has launched another attack against LGF at his site. We're a "reich wing site," according to creepy old Lew.
[Link: www.lewrockwell.com...]
I don't get it. They are the fascists, so wouldn't they LIKE a "reich wing"?
I like hot wings.
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:40:27pm |
re: #27 _RememberTonyC
I think ESPN should do a poll question that asks "which athlete are you most sick of?"
a. Brett Favre
b. Michael Vick
c. Terrell Owens
d. Alex Rodriguez
e. Kobe BryantWho would you vote for?
Kyle Busch.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:40:56pm |
re: #47 livefreeor die
If you had told me three years ago that there would come a point when Favre would be easily viewed as a drama queen, I wouldn't have believed it.
Sigh.
It's gotten to the point where SportsCenter does a story on Favre when he wakes up and takes a leak in the morning ...
BREAKING NEWS ... Brett Favre awoke at 7:30 this morning ... he stumbled into the bathroom and urinated for 35 seconds ... stay tuned to ESPN for updates on when he finishes his raisin bran and "drops a deuce." Back to you, Hannah.
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subsailor68 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:41:12pm |
re: #52 Irish Rose
I work with homebound seniors and I agree with your Mrs., it's a great idea.
Okay Rose, Mrs. subsailor's here - and wants to know where you're working with seniors - especially homebound - and BTW thinks that's wonderful!
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Sharmuta Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:41:36pm |
re: #53 Alouette
Calling people paultards is wrong, but calling others nazis is okay!
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:41:43pm |
re: #49 TheMatrix31
I prefer to call him "The Biggest Attention Whore In The History Of Sports"
Doesn't roll off the tongue, but its true nonetheless.
Tammy would call him a malignant narcissist ... and she'd be right.
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livefreeor die Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:41:54pm |
re: #55 _RememberTonyC
It's gotten to the point where SportsCenter does a story on Favre when he wakes up and takes a leak in the morning ...
BREAKING NEWS ... Brett Favre awoke at 7:30 this morning ... he stumbled into the bathroom and urinated for 35 seconds ... stay tuned to ESPN for updates on when he finishes his raisin bran and "drops a deuce." Back to you, Hannah.
Don't forget Madden returning from retirement to provide the commentary.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:42:26pm |
re: #54 Mich-again
Kyle Busch.
everyone hates kyle busch ... he makes tony stewart look like miss congeniality.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:42:37pm |
re: #27 _RememberTonyC
I think ESPN should do a poll question that asks "which athlete are you most sick of?"
a. Brett Favre
b. Michael Vick
c. Terrell Owens
d. Alex Rodriguez
e. Kobe BryantWho would you vote for?
1. Farve is a real time slow motion 2 year train wreck..
2. Vick is a disgusting human that has paid his price to society.. I shant judge him...But really...he makes me sick
3. T.O...When he played for the 49ers I loved him...Boy..who knew?
4. A-Rod...I'm a Giant's and Red Sox Fan...
5. Kobe...One of the greatest athletes on the planet...But because he is a Laker I hate him..Which is a bummer..Cause I wish we had him...But I have always hated the Lakers...In a friendly ribbing kind of way...Like when the Dodgers would come to Candlestick and we'd scream like crazy at them...(of course we'd scream for less for pregame autographs)
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:42:49pm |
re: #55 _RememberTonyC
I remember a sign at the Thanksgiving game one year that said Cavre Favre.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:43:40pm |
re: #59 livefreeor die
Don't forget Madden returning from retirement to provide the commentary.
I like Frank Caliendo better :)
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:44:40pm |
re: #61 HoosierHoops
1. Farve is a real time slow motion 2 year train wreck..
2. Vick is a disgusting human that has paid his price to society.. I shant judge him...But really...he makes me sick
3. T.O...When he played for the 49ers I loved him...Boy..who knew?
4. A-Rod...I'm a Giant's and Red Sox Fan...
5. Kobe...One of the greatest athletes on the planet...But because he is a Laker I hate him..Which is a bummer..Cause I wish we had him...But I have always hated the Lakers...In a friendly ribbing kind of way...Like when the Dodgers would come to Candlestick and we'd scream like crazy at them...(of course we'd scream for less for pregame autographs)
you nailed it bro ... as usual!
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Sharmuta Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:44:52pm |
re: #45 _RememberTonyC
I vote for Brett Favre, the "Drama Queen" of American sports
No, no- Terrell Owens makes The Diva of Athlete Divas, Dion Sanders, look like a prom princess.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:45:16pm |
re: #62 Mich-again
I remember a sign at the Thanksgiving game one year that said Cavre Favre.
Lions fans have to have a sense of humor, don't they!
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livefreeor die Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:45:21pm |
Here's what I can't wait for:
It's a cold and snowy day in Buffalo. TO drops a crucial pass. A reporter puts a microphone in front of him...
Heh heh heh!
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Irish Rose Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:46:22pm |
re: #56 subsailor68
Okay Rose, Mrs. subsailor's here - and wants to know where you're working with seniors - especially homebound - and BTW thinks that's wonderful!
I'm an in-home caregiver, and I do volunteer work for Hospice.
I also volunteer time to record narratives for the Veterans' History Project.
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Pianobuff Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:46:25pm |
re: #27 _RememberTonyC
I think ESPN should do a poll question that asks "which athlete are you most sick of?"
a. Brett Favre
b. Michael Vick
c. Terrell Owens
d. Alex Rodriguez
e. Kobe BryantWho would you vote for?
How about Craig Stadler?
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Sharmuta Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:46:45pm |
TO takes the cake- even pulled a suicide stunt. Straight up attention whore.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:47:43pm |
re: #67 livefreeor die
Here's what I can't wait for:
It's a cold and snowy day in Buffalo. TO drops a crucial pass. A reporter puts a microphone in front of him...
Heh heh heh!
TO will say the QB threw it too low ... or behind him. TO is the most self centered player in the NFL not named Brett Favre.
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solomonpanting Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:48:01pm |
re: #63 _RememberTonyC
I like Frank Caliendo better :)
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:48:06pm |
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:48:15pm |
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subsailor68 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:48:30pm |
re: #68 Irish Rose
I'm an in-home caregiver, and I do volunteer work for Hospice.
I also volunteer time to record narratives for the Veterans' History Project.
Mrs. subsailor did a book of her mom's work as a Red Cross club director in England in WWII - she's really glad you're doing what you're doing!!! (Her book is called "My War - From Bismarck to Britain and Back".) Bless you for what you do!!
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livefreeor die Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:49:15pm |
re: #71 _RememberTonyC
TO will say the QB threw it too low ... or behind him. TO is the most self centered player in the NFL not named Brett Favre.
"I can't make those plays in this kind of weather if my quarterback can't do his job. It is too cold here. What's with the open stadium? Our owners must be the cheapest bunch of ..."
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Pianobuff Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:49:21pm |
re: #74 _RememberTonyC
The Walrus? Why?
He always looks so grumpy. He needs to smile more. Sometimes his shirt is untucked too. That needs to be fixed.
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Sharmuta Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:49:23pm |
re: #71 _RememberTonyC
TO will say the QB threw it too low ... or behind him. TO is the most self centered player in the NFL not named Brett Favre.
t.o. has randy moss envy
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:51:22pm |
re: #65 Sharmuta
No, no- Terrell Owens makes The Diva of Athlete Divas, Dion Sanders, look like a prom princess.
Hi Friend!
Any man that can run a sub 4.3/40 on the field get's his ass kiss by big money in the NFL..He was really fast...He baited QB's...Go ahead..throw that ball this sucker has my ass beat..I saw him play live..Dion had real make up speed..In his prime he was lighting .no neon in a bottle..
Too bad he never learned how to tackle
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:52:59pm |
My hatred for the Lakers is not friendly, it's somewhat personal and reflective of much more than basketball. I hate the Lakers, the city of LA, its' people...everything.
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Pianobuff Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:53:09pm |
re: #77 Pianobuff
He always looks so grumpy. He needs to smile more. Sometimes his shirt is untucked too. That needs to be fixed.
I'm only kidding. Craig is ok. Head-fake is all it was.
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:53:32pm |
re: #77 Pianobuff
He always looks so grumpy. He needs to smile more. Sometimes his shirt is untucked too. That needs to be fixed.
You just described half the men in America.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:53:40pm |
Why are there no good statues of Apollo wearing clothes? I have a presentation on Greek Gods to give a bunch of fourteen-year-olds.
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Sharmuta Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:53:42pm |
re: #80 HoosierHoops
Dion was good, but he was a Diva. He started the trend. Don't mean any offense, {Hoops}. Diva does not mean "no talent".
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Killian Bundy Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:54:17pm |
Middle class tax creep coming . . .
AFL-CIO, Dems push new Wall Street tax
The nation’s largest labor union and some allied Democrats are pushing a new tax that would hit big investment firms such as Goldman Sachs reaping billions of dollars in profits while the rest of the economy sputters.
The AFL-CIO, one of the Democratic Party’s most powerful allies, would like to assess a small tax — about a tenth of a percent — on every stock transaction.
Boy, I sure hope no one making under $250K trades or owns stocks.
/wouldn't want Obama to break one of his major campaign promises
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subsailor68 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:55:57pm |
re: #79 Irish Rose
VERY impressive!
Thanks Rose! The only other thing I wanted to show Mrs. subsailor was how to attach a YouTube file...and since it's all about WWII - forgive me - but here's what I linked:
:-)
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livefreeor die Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:56:37pm |
re: #86 Killian Bundy
Middle class tax creep coming . . .
AFL-CIO, Dems push new Wall Street tax
Boy, I sure hope no one making under $250K trades or owns stocks./wouldn't want Obama to break one of his major campaign promises
Hey, how about we put an added tax on union dues?
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lawhawk Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:56:45pm |
re: #86 Killian Bundy
Well, it would hit NYC and NYS hardest - since both are so heavily dependent on Wall Street revenues. They want to gut the golden goose.
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Pianobuff Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:56:45pm |
re: #83 Mich-again
You just described half the men in America.
Do you suppose that somewhere in the world at one time Craig Stadler's mom was watching him shake his fist on the 18th green after winning a tournament and saying to the tv, "By the boots of Odin, Craig, tuck your shirt in and flip that hair over your bald spot, and smile!".
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:57:08pm |
re: #81 TheMatrix31
My hatred for the Lakers is not friendly, it's somewhat personal and reflective of much more than basketball. I hate the Lakers, the city of LA, its' people...everything.
Damn I love you..Do want to marry my first born daughter?
*wink*
We NorCal Boys always looked down at LA in a friendly competive way.
Everytime the Lakers or Dodgers win we should just turn off their water for a couple days..Dumbasses moved to a desert. :)
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:58:18pm |
re: #77 Pianobuff
He always looks so grumpy. He needs to smile more. Sometimes his shirt is untucked too. That needs to be fixed.
but he hasn't been a real factor in years ... although he looks slovenly for sure
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:59:10pm |
re: #85 Sharmuta
Dion was good, but he was a Diva. He started the trend. Don't mean any offense, {Hoops}. Diva does not mean "no talent".
"Prime Time"
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Irish Rose Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:59:16pm |
re: #87 subsailor68
Aww, that just warms the cockles of my heart.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:59:25pm |
re: #91 HoosierHoops
That's flattering, lol. Hey, if she's conservative and an LA hater, she's fought most of the battle with me already!
During the NBA Playoffs, I finally broke down and wrote a MASSIVE essay explaining my hatred for the Lakers. People kept asking me why I hate them so much, so I decided to tell them. If you wanna read it, make your nickname blue.
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Van Helsing Mon, Aug 31, 2009 6:59:34pm |
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:00:11pm |
re: #85 Sharmuta
Dion was good, but he was a Diva. He started the trend. Don't mean any offense, {Hoops}. Diva does not mean "no talent".
How about Dennis Rodman is the white wedding dress? Eye bleach! Stat!
TO doing pushups in his driveway
He's got 25 million reasons to live!
LOL
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Pianobuff Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:00:15pm |
re: #92 _RememberTonyC
but he hasn't been a real factor in years ... although he looks slovenly for sure
Charles Barkley is another one that can annoy the piss out of me.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:01:03pm |
re: #81 TheMatrix31
My hatred for the Lakers is not friendly, it's somewhat personal and reflective of much more than basketball. I hate the Lakers, the city of LA, its' people...everything.
Magic Johnson is a good guy ... he has done a lot to help the inner city in LA with his business ventures. But as a Celtics fan, I also dislike the Lakers. But since we used to beat the snot out of them in the Finals back in the 1960s, Celtics fans looked at the Lakers as our whipping boys.
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:01:09pm |
re: #86 Killian Bundy
I think that the political contribution portion of Union dues should not be deductible on Federal taxes. If you write a personal check to a politician's campaign, its not deductible on your taxes. But if your Union donates $100 of your Union dues to the same politician's campaign, you get to deduct it along with the rest of their Union dues. That amounts to different rules for different people and the Constitution is supposed to frown on that.
I think it would be interesting to see that challenged in court.
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livefreeor die Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:01:22pm |
re: #98 Pianobuff
Charles Barkley is another one that can annoy the piss out of me.
Living in the Philly burbs (and not being an Eagles fan), Donovan McNabb can get real annoying. He does not know when to shut up.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:02:07pm |
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subsailor68 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:02:14pm |
re: #96 Van Helsing
What a wonderful thing to do.
Now that's just terrific!! Thanks! Here's one back at ya - from another old pro:
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Van Helsing Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:02:58pm |
re: #86 Killian Bundy
/wouldn't want Obama to break ANOTHER one of his major campaign promises
I fixted it for you.
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Pianobuff Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:03:14pm |
re: #101 livefreeor die
Living in the Philly burbs (and not being an Eagles fan), Donovan McNabb can get real annoying. He does not know when to shut up.
I didn't realize McNabb was so outspoken. I always thought Dr. J was pure class though.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:03:16pm |
re: #98 Pianobuff
Charles Barkley is another one that can annoy the piss out of me.
The Chuckster swore at me at a press conference in 1995 at the NBA All Star game.
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:03:42pm |
I love annoying athletes, but nothing is more entertaining than a ranting coach.
I'm a MAN. I'm 40!
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The Shadow Do Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:04:42pm |
re: #80 HoosierHoops
Hi Friend!
Any man that can run a sub 4.3/40 on the field get's his ass kiss by big money in the NFL..He was really fast...He baited QB's...Go ahead..throw that ball this sucker has my ass beat..I saw him play live..Dion had real make up speed..In his prime he was lighting .no neon in a bottle..
Too bad he never learned how to tackle
Went to a ball game, he was playing for the Reds, with his pants above the knees and nothing but sox. Don't know why, just pissed me off.
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Pianobuff Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:04:52pm |
re: #107 _RememberTonyC
The Chuckster swore at me at a press conference in 1995 at the NBA All Star game.
Why?
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:05:27pm |
re: #95 TheMatrix31
That's flattering, lol. Hey, if she's conservative and an LA hater, she's fought most of the battle with me already!
During the NBA Playoffs, I finally broke down and wrote a MASSIVE essay explaining my hatred for the Lakers. People kept asking me why I hate them so much, so I decided to tell them. If you wanna read it, make your nickname blue.
Yup...I grew up hating the Lakers...That's the fun about sports...We have our favorite and hated teams...The thrill of victory the agony of defeat
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:06:50pm |
re: #18 Charles
Ron Paul's racist pal Lew Rockwell has launched another attack against LGF at his site. We're a "reich wing site," according to creepy old Lew.
[Link: www.lewrockwell.com...]
Lew Rockwell and his merry Klan of Paleolibertarians. It's almost an insult to paleolithic man who may have been more reasonable then this bunch of modern day primitives.
Where else but at Lew Rockwell's site can one find such pathetic little pieces of broken asphalt and Godwin's law applied like Hitler Was a Lincolnite, Abe the Mass Murderer or Happy Dictator Day regarding Lincoln's birthday. This of course being attributable to Rockwell darling Thomas DiLorenzo who is also a frequent speaker at Mises Institute events.
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:07:01pm |
re: #90 Pianobuff
Do you suppose that somewhere in the world at one time Craig Stadler's mom was watching him shake his fist on the 18th green after winning a tournament and saying to the tv, "By the boots of Odin, Craig, tuck your shirt in and flip that hair over your bald spot, and smile!".
I think you are getting him mixed up with Mike Holmgren after Super Bowl XXXI.
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livefreeor die Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:07:48pm |
re: #106 Pianobuff
I didn't realize McNabb was so outspoken. I always thought Dr. J was pure class though.
He feels underappreciated and gets snitty at times. He got huffy last year about the game ending in a tie after no one scored in overtime during a regular season game.
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Van Helsing Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:07:51pm |
re: #103 subsailor68
Those are some of the reasons it is remembered as the 'good old days'.
Thanks for the Durante.
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livefreeor die Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:08:25pm |
re: #113 Mich-again
I think you are getting him mixed up with Mike Holmgren after Super Bowl XXXI.
Or Andy Reid...any time.
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SteveC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:08:53pm |
re: #99 _RememberTonyC
Magic Johnson is a good guy ... he has done a lot to help the inner city in LA with his business ventures. But as a Celtics fan, I also dislike the Lakers. But since we used to beat the snot out of them in the Finals back in the 1960s, Celtics fans looked at the Lakers as our whipping boys.
Facebook quiz I saw today: Who is the greatest Laker?
1) Magic
2) Kobe
3) Kareem
4) Shaq
5) Worthy
6) Kurt Rambis
Rambis is the best of the lot, IMHO, because he's the little guy who never had that much talent. Loved watching him play for the Charlotte Hornets in 88-90.
And if you want to get an edumacation, just watch Magic and Kareem. In their prime they could make Kobe and Shaq look like two of the Three Stooges.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:08:57pm |
re: #112 Gus 802
I was surprised to learn that libertarians hate Lincoln. Instapundit once linked to an article attempting to smear Obama by likening him to Lincoln.
/Different strokes.
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subsailor68 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:09:03pm |
Well all, thanks so much - it was Mrs. subsailor's first time looking at a blog - and she just may be ready to think about creating one to keep her seniors (all over the Texas Hill Country) in touch with each other. Have a wonderful evening all, and thanks for your help! (Especially Rose!)
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:09:14pm |
re: #114 livefreeor die
He got huffy last year about the game ending in a tie
Any football player would be in a pissy mood after a game that ended in a tie.
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rain of lead Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:09:34pm |
watching the cma music fest
kid rock and martina mcbride duet of Picture
wow
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:09:47pm |
re: #107 _RememberTonyC
The Chuckster swore at me at a press conference in 1995 at the NBA All Star game.
Sir Charles? Do tell! Leave no details out!
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:10:26pm |
re: #107 _RememberTonyC
The Chuckster swore at me at a press conference in 1995 at the NBA All Star game.
That's terrble
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livefreeor die Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:10:56pm |
re: #120 Mich-again
Any football player would be in a pissy mood after a game that ended in a tie.
But he was surprised by the rule-he acted like it was a conspiracy or something, ("I guess if that's what in the rulebook.")
Donovan, you make how many millions a year. You should have that rulebook memorized.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:11:00pm |
re: #110 Pianobuff
Why?
he was pissed because my camera crew caught him making a remark that included the phrase "that's why I hate white people" and we put it on the air. He looked at me in a press conference the next day after the All Star game and said "fuck you." It was kind of freaky to be honest with you.
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:11:04pm |
re: #118 Killgore Trout
I was surprised to learn that libertarians hate Lincoln. Instapundit once linked to an article attempting to smear Obama by likening him to Lincoln.
/Different strokes.
Now there's a first. Usually I've seen praise for Obama by comparing him to Lincoln -- not that I think it makes much sense. But to smear him by comparing him to Lincoln is beyond absurd. Then again we have been seeing a great deal of "the theater of the absurd" in recent months.
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:11:25pm |
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:13:27pm |
my computer is running really slow ... sorry for the delays. gonna shut down ... g'night all!
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Irish Rose Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:13:37pm |
re: #97 HoosierHoops
Hoops, I have to tell you something about my Marine.
He came home on leave this time with a fresh tattoo on his chest, right over his heart. It's an image of a Marine kneeling at the foot of a cross.
He told me that one of his best buddies was killed in Afghanistan just a few weeks ago... he had the tattoo done on the day that he found out. He keeps the tattoo covered. Tears up every time someone mentions it, and doesn't want to talk about it.
Hug your son often, and thank God that he came home to you safely.
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livefreeor die Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:14:06pm |
I better go. I start teaching again on Thursday and I have to prep my lectures.
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lawhawk Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:14:15pm |
Hmm... the NYT has finally gotten around to doing a story about the Thai Islamists and their jihad to create an Islamist state in the South. And wouldn't you know it, they're trying to spin the counterinsurgency efforts as failing.
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SteveC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:14:24pm |
re: #113 Mich-again
I think you are getting him mixed up with Mike Holmgren after Super Bowl XXXI.
Dad flew out of Columbia Metropolitan Airport (Columbia, SC) so much that he had nicknames for the guards at the metal detectors (this was before TSA). The guy with the military haircut was "Sarge"; the guy with the large nose was "Quincy"; and there was a third guy who didn't look like anybody.
After the Super Bowl daddy decided he looked a bit like Holmgren, so "Coach" started working the metal detectors!
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Pianobuff Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:15:10pm |
re: #126 _RememberTonyC
he was pissed because my camera crew caught him making a remark that included the phrase "that's why I hate white people" and we put it on the air. He looked at me in a press conference the next day after the All Star game and said "fuck you." It was kind of freaky to be honest with you.
Crazy... Here's another one I can't stand... Mike Tyson.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:15:40pm |
re: #127 Gus 802
Now there's a first. Usually I've seen praise for Obama by comparing him to Lincoln -- not that I think it makes much sense. But to smear him by comparing him to Lincoln is beyond absurd. Then again we have been seeing a great deal of "the theater of the absurd" in recent months.
Lincoln was not tremendously popular in the South amongst a significant portion of the population, as you might imagine. My maternal grandmother certainly expressed her dislike on occasion.
;)
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:15:51pm |
re: #117 SteveC
Facebook quiz I saw today: Who is the greatest Laker?
1) Magic
2) Kobe
3) Kareem
4) Shaq
5) Worthy
6) Kurt RambisRambis is the best of the lot, IMHO, because he's the little guy who never had that much talent. Loved watching him play for the Charlotte Hornets in 88-90.
And if you want to get an edumacation, just watch Magic and Kareem. In their prime they could make Kobe and Shaq look like two of the Three Stooges.
I think that list is rated just about right..Rambis was a journeyman that did a lot of the dirty work in blue collar way..
But did he greatness?? Magic was greatness just walking onto the court..
Kobe..One of todays greatest ballers..
Personally there are a lot of Lakers I'd put before Kurt...Cooper for one..Scott..They were special athletes and everyone watching knew it.
/Hate Lakers
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Van Helsing Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:16:02pm |
re: #132 lawhawk
Hmm... the NYT has finally gotten around to doing a story about the Thai Islamists and their jihad to create an Islamist state in the South. And wouldn't you know it, they're trying to spin the counterinsurgency efforts as failing.
After what, two years now?
Right on top of things, that paper is.
And on the bottom bird cages.
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The Shadow Do Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:16:22pm |
re: #134 Pianobuff
Crazy... Here's another one I can't stand... Mike Tyson.
One more and we can have one sports asshole for each day of the week!
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Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:16:35pm |
Another good one from The Onion tonight:
[Link: www.theonion.com...]
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:16:59pm |
re: #118 Killgore Trout
I used to get a weekly rag called the Conservative Chronicle back in the day before the internet thing and there was a guy who contributed named Joseph Sobran who went on and on about Abe Lincoln the destroyer of the Constitution. Its not a new thing for Libertarians to spout about Lincoln tearing up the Constitution to preserve the Union.
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Racer X Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:17:04pm |
Who is the current NBA champ right now? I forget.
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Pianobuff Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:17:07pm |
re: #138 The Shadow Do
One more and we can have one sports asshole for each day of the week!
How about Jose Canseco? Another buttwipe.
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The Shadow Do Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:17:54pm |
re: #141 Racer X
Who is the current NBA champ right now? I forget.
It's not my little Mavericks so it does not matter.
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:18:01pm |
re: #135 OldLineTexan
Lincoln was not tremendously popular in the South amongst a significant portion of the population, as you might imagine. My maternal grandmother certainly expressed her dislike on occasion.
;)
Understood. I didn't exactly grow up around that but heard about it from time to time when I was much younger. Can't say I ever heard him compared to Hitler though -- that's a first.
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The Shadow Do Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:18:22pm |
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:19:12pm |
re: #142 Pianobuff
How about Jose Canseco? Another buttwipe.
He's been correct about EVERYTHING. For that, I have a shitload of respect for him.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:19:52pm |
re: #144 Gus 802
Understood. I didn't exactly grow up around that but heard about it from time to time when I was much younger. Can't say I ever heard him compared to Hitler though -- that's a first.
No, that's obscene ... I can assure you, the most bitter, clingy, whitest, "Sherman that damnyankee burned out my family" person I ever met also cussed Hitler and Tojo. ;)
/where the women couldn't hear him, of course
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Irenicum Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:20:45pm |
That was a beautiful piece Charles! Just what I needed to end a long work day.
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SteveC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:21:04pm |
re: #136 HoosierHoops
I think that list is rated just about right..Rambis was a journeyman that did a lot of the dirty work in blue collar way..
Rambis got a tip in right at the buzzer to defeat the Jordan led Bulls, Charlotte's first big win. He sprinted back toward the bench, wound up at the botton of the pile with all the rest of the Hornets on top of him. He was shouting like a kid on the playground.
Kinda short on talent, but plenty of desire and enthusiasm! My kinda fellow!
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Pianobuff Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:21:22pm |
re: #146 TheMatrix31
He's been correct about EVERYTHING. For that, I have a shitload of respect for him.
I was thinking more of his playing days. I remember sitting in the rightfield section at Yankee stadium for a series right around the time the whole Madonna thing was happening. Man, to be a prima donna visiting the Yankee outfield...no fun.
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:21:54pm |
re: #146 TheMatrix31
He's been correct about EVERYTHING. For that, I have a shitload of respect for him.
Me too. He turned out to be the one guy who told the truth.
And I also have respect for him for making one of my all-time favorite sports blooper highlights. The fly ball that bounced off his head into the stands for a home run. That cracks me up every time.
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solomonpanting Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:22:15pm |
re: #126 _RememberTonyC
he was pissed because my camera crew caught him making a remark that included the phrase "that's why I hate white people" and we put it on the air. He looked at me in a press conference the next day after the All Star game and said "fuck you." It was kind of freaky to be honest with you.
Isn't his wife a white people?
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:22:35pm |
You're approaching room-temperature if this doesn't put some move in your groove.
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:22:46pm |
re: #147 OldLineTexan
No, that's obscene ... I can assure you, the most bitter, clingy, whitest, "Sherman that damnyankee burned out my family" person I ever met also cussed Hitler and Tojo. ;)
/where the women couldn't hear him, of course
That would make sense since many would have seen it as a personal experience without necessarily having a vested interest in the Confederacy.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:23:17pm |
re: #153 solomonpanting
Isn't his wife a white people?
So you're saying he may have a good reason?
///
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:24:30pm |
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FrogMarch Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:24:39pm |
re: #86 Killian Bundy
Middle class tax creep coming . . .
AFL-CIO, Dems push new Wall Street tax
Boy, I sure hope no one making under $250K trades or owns stocks.
/wouldn't want Obama to break one of his major campaign promises
The Bush tax cuts expire -- that is a tax increase for just about everyone. Then add 4-5% tax rate increases on top of that.
The top 10% of income earners pay 70% of all taxes. The top 1% pay 40% of all taxes. The bottom 40% of earners pay nothing.
That will only get crazier. IMO - Everyone should have some skin in the game. The Democrats are going to make it so over-the-top-unfair - the only way to find a job in this economy will be to join a governmetn union. That's the plan.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:24:59pm |
re: #130 Irish Rose
Hoops, I have to tell you something about my Marine.
He came home on leave this time with a fresh tattoo on his chest, right over his heart. It's an image of a Marine kneeling at the foot of a cross.He told me that one of his best buddies was killed in Afghanistan just a few weeks ago... he had the tattoo done on the day that he found out. He keeps the tattoo covered. Tears up every time someone mentions it, and doesn't want to talk about it.
Hug your son often, and thank God that he came home to you safely.
My God bring healing and grace to the family of that fallen Marine..His family and young son are seeing the weight of courage and bravery in the face of death...Our Sons and Daughters face no challenge that cannot be overcome..No enemy is too strong..No barrier too high..
One night my son told me that when we wakes at at 4am and goes on duty he thinks of why he does it. He said he thinks mom and me and his brothers and sisters and all our family. This is our little America...
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:25:21pm |
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SteveC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:25:33pm |
re: #150 Pianobuff
I was thinking more of his playing days. I remember sitting in the rightfield section at Yankee stadium for a series right around the time the whole Madonna thing was happening. Man, to be a prima donna visiting the Yankee outfield...no fun.
Porking Madonna couldn't have been much fun, either. I hear it is a well traveled path.
/there's maps and water breaks and photography opportunities and everything.
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Gella Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:25:40pm |
re: #158 OldLineTexan
I can't see y'all from here. Whatcha openin'?
/
Tennis, chicks man right now :)
///
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:26:31pm |
re: #159 FrogMarch
Once 51% of the people can enslave the other 49% its game over.
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SteveC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:27:02pm |
re: #151 Mich-again
Me too. He turned out to be the one guy who told the truth.
Mark McGwire coulda owned the world. He did for a little while.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:27:33pm |
re: #149 SteveC
Rambis got a tip in right at the buzzer to defeat the Jordan led Bulls, Charlotte's first big win. He sprinted back toward the bench, wound up at the botton of the pile with all the rest of the Hornets on top of him. He was shouting like a kid on the playground.
Kinda short on talent, but plenty of desire and enthusiasm! My kinda fellow!
Jordan! Another guy that If i never see another underwear commercial it won't be too soon..
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Pianobuff Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:28:27pm |
re: #162 SteveC
Porking Madonna couldn't have been much fun, either. I hear it is a well traveled path.
/there's maps and water breaks and photography opportunities and everything.
No thanks. Jose probably made sure there was a mirror nearby so he could look at himself anyway.
The pairing I never understood whatsoever was Sharon Stone and Dwight Yoakam. Bizarro-boinking at its finest. Billy Bob Thornton and anybody is also a strange pairing. Lyle Lovett for that matter, too.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:28:29pm |
re: #166 HoosierHoops
Jordan! Another guy that If i never see another underwear commercial it won't be too soon..
Could be worse ... could be Mike al Moore.
/
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:28:36pm |
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:29:22pm |
re: #167 Pianobuff
No thanks. Jose probably made sure there was a mirror nearby so he could look at himself anyway.
The pairing I never understood whatsoever was Sharon Stone and Dwight Yoakam. Bizarro-boinking at its finest. Billy Bob Thornton and anybody is also a strange pairing. Lyle Lovett for that matter, too.
Chicks dig musicians, man ... plus, he has (or had) a nice ranch.
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:29:33pm |
re: #164 Mich-again
Once 51% of the people can enslave the other 49% its game over.
Only if humans are robots.
We're not.
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:30:14pm |
re: #169 MandyManners
The Bowels of Socialist Hell if we don't keep FCBBHO in check.
that was a very moving comment
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:30:24pm |
re: #150 Pianobuff
I remember sitting in the rightfield section at Yankee stadium for a series right around the time the whole Madonna thing was happening.
I remember when he was playing for Texas in the early 90's and we went to a day game at Tiger Stadium and sat right behind the visitors dugout. After he struck out swinging at a ball in the dirt and walked back to the dugout I waited for the last second and asked him if he had a fishing license and he flipped me off. Ha. That made my day.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:30:37pm |
re: #168 OldLineTexan
Could be worse ... could be Mike al Moore.
/
I wonder if the John Madden foot spray commercials are finally over?
Please!
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The Shadow Do Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:30:37pm |
re: #166 HoosierHoops
Jordan! Another guy that If i never see another underwear commercial it won't be too soon..
I blame Jim Palmer
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SteveC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:30:45pm |
re: #167 Pianobuff
No thanks. Jose probably made sure there was a mirror nearby so he could look at himself anyway.
Mirror on the ceiling? Just a little kinky, but not bad.
Mirror on the ceiling with a TV network logo in the corner? Now that child ain't right!
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VioletTiger Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:30:49pm |
re: #169 MandyManners
The Bowels of Socialist Hell if we don't keep FCBBHO in check.
We're gonna need some Peptobismol...
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:30:54pm |
Federal government to buy land for Flight 93 memorial
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Pennsylvania landowners around the September 11, 2001, crash site of Flight 93 have reached an agreement with the federal government allowing construction of a permanent memorial there, the government announced Monday.U.S. Interior Secretary Ken Salazar said the National Park Service has "reached agreements with all the landowners needed" to establish the permanent memorial for the 40 people killed in the terrorist hijacking nearly eight years ago.
Salazar said the government will pay the landowners approximately $9.5 million.
One of several airliners hijacked on September 11, 2001, by terrorists who intended to use them as flying bombs, United Airlines Flight 93 went down near Shanksville, in western Pennsylvania.
Salazar described the negotiations as cordial, with landowners wanting "to walk away saying we've done it for the right reasons."
...
A Park Service official expects construction to begin in November.
...
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esch Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:31:11pm |
re: #169 MandyManners
The Bowels of Socialist Hell if we don't keep FCBBHO in check.
Upding for linking bammy and bowels.
Obowels? Ewww.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:32:29pm |
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:32:49pm |
re: #167 Pianobuff
No thanks. Jose probably made sure there was a mirror nearby so he could look at himself anyway.
The pairing I never understood whatsoever was Sharon Stone and Dwight Yoakam. Bizarro-boinking at its finest. Billy Bob Thornton and anybody is also a strange pairing. Lyle Lovett for that matter, too.
The worst of all time is Marko Jaric and goddess Adriana Lima
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Bob Dillon Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:33:15pm |
re: #2 _RememberTonyC
Is it just my imagination, or does it not seem that those most grateful to be Americans are not the richest or the most famous, but just the regular folks?
A HS teacher, back in the 50s, had us calculate the odds of being born an American based on world population at that time ... then we discussed it in terms of how our lives would have been different in different countries.
I remember very little specifics from those days - but that piece I still clearly do.
A belated thank you to a great teacher.
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:33:32pm |
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Pianobuff Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:33:39pm |
re: #173 Mich-again
I remember when he was playing for Texas in the early 90's and we went to a day game at Tiger Stadium and sat right behind the visitors dugout. After he struck out swinging at a ball in the dirt and walked back to the dugout I waited for the last second and asked him if he had a fishing license and he flipped me off. Ha. That made my day.
For some reason, Yankee fans had a special hatred for Dan Gladden. Go figure. I can't remember why. Anyway, whenever he was in town, every inning everyone would be screaming, "Gladden you're not a has-been, you're a never-was". Cliche, I know. But predictable as Old Faithful.
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:33:52pm |
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VioletTiger Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:34:14pm |
re: #159 FrogMarch
The Bush tax cuts expire -- that is a tax increase for just about everyone. Then add 4-5% tax rate increases on top of that.
The top 10% of income earners pay 70% of all taxes. The top 1% pay 40% of all taxes. The bottom 40% of earners pay nothing.
That will only get crazier. IMO - Everyone should have some skin in the game. The Democrats are going to make it so over-the-top-unfair - the only way to find a job in this economy will be to join a governmetn union. That's the plan.
And it's not like regular folks have their pensions funds in any stocks.
/
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:34:46pm |
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:35:05pm |
re: #178 Gus 802
Did they ever agree on a design. Hopefully it won't be that crescent shaped turd of an idea that was floated early on.
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Irish Rose Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:35:07pm |
Back to family business... have a good evening, folks.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:35:29pm |
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VioletTiger Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:35:34pm |
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:35:56pm |
re: #178 Gus 802
WILL FCBBHO PUT UP A MEMORIAL TO FUCKING OBSERVE HIS FUCKING CALL TO NATIONAL SERVICE?
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:35:58pm |
re: #189 Mich-again
Did they ever agree on a design. Hopefully it won't be that crescent shaped turd of an idea that was floated early on.
I didn't see. Would have to Google it.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:35:58pm |
re: #189 Mich-again
Did they ever agree on a design. Hopefully it won't be that crescent shaped turd of an idea that was floated early on.
Amen to that!
/
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rain of lead Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:36:28pm |
re: #189 Mich-again
Did they ever agree on a design. Hopefully it won't be that crescent shaped turd of an idea that was floated early on.
I may be wrong but I think that was/is the final plan :(
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FrogMarch Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:36:44pm |
re: #187 VioletTiger
And it's not like regular folks have their pensions funds in any stocks.
/
Regular folks stink - except when it's time for those pesky elections.
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:37:00pm |
Government workers automatic pay rises were cut today from 2.6% down to 2%
Now my question : Why are they getting a pay increase in the first place when the vast majority of americans are seeing decreases, layoffs, etc. ?
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:37:36pm |
re: #197 FrogMarch
Regular folks stink - except when it's time for those pesky elections.
The peasants are revolting.
/
You can say that again.
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:38:02pm |
re: #198 Shug
Government workers automatic pay rises were cut today from 2.6% down to 2%
Now my question : Why are they getting a pay increase in the first place when the vast majority of americans are seeing decreases, layoffs, etc. ?
Aren't COLA's contractual for them?
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rain of lead Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:38:10pm |
re: #197 FrogMarch
Regular folks stink - except when it's time for those pesky elections.
"sire, the peasants are revolting"
" no kidding, they stink on ice"
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The Shadow Do Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:38:18pm |
re: #182 SteveC
Obamacare for your Obowels!
Ranger Bob: "Hunting for bear...and there I was, creeping throught the brush, when GRRRrrr!
I SHIT MY PANTS!"
Boy Scout: "When you saw the bear Mr. Ranger?"
Ranger Bob: "No, just now, when I went GRRRrrr..."
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SteveC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:38:27pm |
re: #183 Bobibutu
A HS teacher, back in the 50s, had us calculate the odds of being born an American based on world population at that time ... then we discussed it in terms of how our lives would have been different in different countries.
Read an article online about an African Heart Foundation (I want to say it was Ethiopia but I'm not 100% sure) that has been chartered for 15 years but just now has a functioning facility. They have done 16 Catherizations and 12 heart operations!
All the operations have been "simple" (like any heart surgery is simple!) and more complicated cases are shipped out to Saudi Arabia... to a hospital owned/operated by The Cleveland Clinic.
/Any kind of Chronic Illness in the 3rd and 4th world could easily be fatal. :(
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:38:35pm |
re: #193 MandyManners
WILL FCBBHO PUT UP A MEMORIAL TO FUCKING OBSERVE HIS FUCKING CALL TO NATIONAL SERVICE?
lay off the Vitameatavegamin
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:38:57pm |
re: #162 SteveC
Porking Madonna couldn't have been much fun, either. I hear it is a well traveled path.
/there's maps and water breaks and photography opportunities and everything.
I wonder if she's totally fabulous in bed, or if she's too self-absorbed to notice.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:39:00pm |
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:39:35pm |
re: #193 MandyManners
WILL FCBBHO PUT UP A MEMORIAL TO FUCKING OBSERVE HIS FUCKING CALL TO NATIONAL SERVICE?
I've read about this a bit here.
What else does the White House--through official and unofficial channels--want Americans to do on 9/11?
CHECK IT OUT.
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FrogMarch Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:39:59pm |
re: #199 OldLineTexan
The peasants are revolting.
/
You can say that again.
Dang peasants - they need to shut up and get out of the way. Stop ruining things.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:40:05pm |
re: #205 SanFranciscoZionist
I wonder if she's totally fabulous in bed, or if she's too self-absorbed to notice.
Nine out of ten dentists could probably tell you.
/
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SteveC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:40:22pm |
re: #198 Shug
Government workers automatic pay rises were cut today from 2.6% down to 2%
Now my question : Why are they getting a pay increase in the first place when the vast majority of americans are seeing decreases, layoffs, etc. ?
Re-read the first two words of that statement. There ya go!
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:40:44pm |
re: #204 Shug
lay off the Vitameatavegamin
I would shove a chocolate bon-bon right into your face if I had one.
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:40:46pm |
re: #200 MandyManners
Aren't COLA's contractual for them?
I wouldn't doubt it.
Uncle Sam has deep Chinese pockets
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Pianobuff Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:41:02pm |
re: #205 SanFranciscoZionist
I wonder if she's totally fabulous in bed, or if she's too self-absorbed to notice.
The echo is a bit unnerving, so I've heard.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:41:13pm |
re: #178 Gus 802
Good. It's time to move past the insane conspiracy theories promoted by the likes of Alec Rawls.
If I regret anything I've posted at LGF, it's the one or two posts that lended credibility to the idea that the Flight 93 memorial is a sekrit Muslim mosque. The way this idiotic story was promoted was one of the first signs that raving anti-Muslim kooks were taking over the so-called "anti-jihad" movement.
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:41:28pm |
re: #198 Shug
Government workers automatic pay rises were cut today from 2.6% down to 2%
That will probably end up being reported as a 23% pay cut. Everyone knows that in Government-speak when you reduce a projected future increase its actually a cut.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:41:39pm |
re: #205 SanFranciscoZionist
I wonder if she's totally fabulous in bed, or if she's too self-absorbed to notice.
It's a bitch dodging the pointie bra thingie from poking out your eyes...Safety glasses are recommended
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:41:58pm |
re: #206 OldLineTexan
No Coke, Pessi!
/
Pessi?
(Considering the theme of the puns in this thread, I'm gonna' be nice.)
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garycooper Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:42:05pm |
re: #112 Gus 802
Lew Rockwell and his merry Klan of Paleolibertarians. It's almost an insult to paleolithic man who may have been more reasonable then this bunch of modern day primitives.
Where else but at Lew Rockwell's site can one find such pathetic little pieces of broken asphalt and Godwin's law applied like Hitler Was a Lincolnite, Abe the Mass Murderer or Happy Dictator Day regarding Lincoln's birthday. This of course being attributable to Rockwell darling Thomas DiLorenzo who is also a frequent speaker at Mises Institute events.
Sad, funny and stupid all at once. For $5 a month.
"New Quixote Tilts At Windmills"
[Link: www.montrealgazette.com...]
In other news, there's a frost-freeze warning in central and northern Michigan tonight. It's The Warmening, I tellya!
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Killgore Trout Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:42:36pm |
re: #214 Charles
The way this idiotic story was promoted was one of the first signs that raving anti-Muslim kooks were taking over the so-called "anti-jihad" movement.
You're probably right.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:42:45pm |
re: #217 MandyManners
Pessi?
(Considering the theme of the puns in this thread, I'm gonna' be nice.)
I spell it like John Belushi said it ...
/
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:43:02pm |
I kept it on ESPN to watch my favorite team play its preseason game, but all I hear is slurp, slurp, slurp.
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Desert Dog Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:43:17pm |
re: #214 Charles
Good. It's time to move past the insane conspiracy theories promoted by the likes of Alec Rawls.
If I regret anything I've posted at LGF, it's the one or two posts that lended credibility to the idea that the Flight 93 memorial is a sekrit Muslim mosque. The way this idiotic story was promoted was one of the first signs that raving anti-Muslim kooks were taking over the so-called "anti-jihad" movement.
I wish they would buy the pile of crap they still call the 9-11 Memorial in front of the Arizona Capitol
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:43:55pm |
re: #214 Charles
Good. It's time to move past the insane conspiracy theories promoted by Alec Rawls.
If I regret anything I've posted at LGF, it's the one or two posts that lended credibility to the idea that the Flight 93 memorial is a sekrit Muslim mosque. The way this idiotic story was promoted was one of the first signs that raving anti-Muslim kooks were taking over the so-called "anti-jihad" movement.
Thanks. First I heard of it actually. Or at least it's coming back to me as I was searching for a site plan. Looks like a circle with an open end to one side. I'm seeing other images where people have superimposed the lag of Turkey and something about it "pointing to Mecca."
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:44:37pm |
Is the 93 memorial still that big crescent shape?
Cooincidence or not that thing was kind of ugly.
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:44:40pm |
re: #223 Gus 802
Make that "superimposed the lag flag." Flag not "lag."
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:45:26pm |
re: #222 Desert Dog
I wish they would buy the pile of crap they still call the 9-11 Memorial in front of the Arizona Capitol
We had a nice one on the campus at work ... very subdued, very classy, with the names of employees killed in the attacks. They sold that part of the campus ...
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:45:29pm |
Here is the proposed design at nps.gov. Flight 93 Memorial.
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garycooper Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:45:30pm |
re: #205 SanFranciscoZionist
I wonder if she's totally fabulous in bed, or if she's too self-absorbed to notice.
I wouldn't want those scary man-hands touching me.
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Desert Dog Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:46:08pm |
re: #224 Shug
Is the 93 memorial still that big crescent shape?
Cooincidence or not that thing was kind of ugly.
It wasn't ugly...it was FUGLY.
Whoever designs these things should look at the Vietnam Wall in DC or the Oklahoma City Memorial...those are so simple yet so powerful...
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:46:14pm |
I saw on Freeper site that there was some sort of code on the UAL93 memorial, that once translated said DONT FORGET TO DRINK YOUR OVALTINE, which everybody knows is some sort of Islamic Sleeper Cell activator
/
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:47:03pm |
re: #222 Desert Dog
I wish they would buy the pile of crap they still call the 9-11 Memorial in front of the Arizona Capitol
You mean the one that didn't have enough room to mention Pat Tillman?
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:47:11pm |
re: #230 Shug
I saw on Freeper site that there was some sort of code on the UAL93 memorial, that once translated said DONT FORGET TO DRINK YOUR OVALTINE, which everybody knows is some sort of Islamic Sleeper Cell activator
/
must ... blow up ... Lassie ... and ... Timmy ...
/
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:47:16pm |
Well, since this is a "controversy" that I didn't know about. Here's the architects site regarding the memorial:
[Link: www.paulmurdocharchitects.com...]
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garycooper Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:48:00pm |
re: #227 Mich-again
Here is the proposed design at nps.gov. Flight 93 Memorial.
Tower of Voices
At the entrance to the national memorial, rising 93 feet into the sky, will be the Tower of Voices,” containing 40 large wind chimes, evocative of, and a tribute to, the sound of the wind and voices aboard the plane during it’s final moments.
Chimes that scream?
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:48:27pm |
And the Pentagon is actually a pentagram.
//Uh huh.
/
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Desert Dog Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:48:59pm |
re: #231 Mich-again
You mean the one that didn't have enough room to mention Pat Tillman?
That's the one. The political correctness on that POS almost made me pop a vein in my forehead...the thoughtlessness and stupidity of that "monument" is simply unbelievable.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:49:11pm |
re: #225 Gus 802
Make that "superimposed the
lagflag." Flag not "lag."
Thank you. I can usually work out typos, but I was sitting here wondering what the hell the lag of Turkey was, and thinking it must be some kind of latitudinal thing.
Why would the flag of Turkey have anything at all to do with this?
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Charles Johnson Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:49:56pm |
And by the way ...
If you try to promote the "United 93 sekrit mosque" conspiracy theory at LGF, I promise you that it's not going to go over well.
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:50:59pm |
re: #238 SanFranciscoZionist
Thank you. I can usually work out typos, but I was sitting here wondering what the hell the lag of Turkey was, and thinking it must be some kind of latitudinal thing.
Why would the flag of Turkey have anything at all to do with this?
The crescent and the star of their flag and that Turkey is essentially an Islamic nation. They claim the plan was based on this.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:51:13pm |
re: #227 Mich-again
Here is the proposed design at nps.gov. Flight 93 Memorial.
Honestly, I could have gone for just a memorial grove and a simple stone with a plaque in the middle.
Anything where you have to explain the natural entry to the healing experience, it's just too woowoo for my taste. For something like this, anyway.
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SteveC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:51:14pm |
re: #222 Desert Dog
I wish they would buy the pile of crap they still call the 9-11 Memorial in front of the Arizona Capitol
We're probably going to have to build the monument that Stephen King mentioned in Night Surf: The large stone tablet that says "JUST THE FLU"
H1N1 War to be fought in the ICU
"As an ICU doctor, it's very, very, very rare I can't deliver enough oxygen to someone to keep him alive. They die of other things, right? They die because their organs fail.''
"In this case, we can barely oxygenate them."
"I want the public health people to understand: If we breach ICU capacity, a lot of people are going to die,'' he cautions.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:51:59pm |
re: #229 Desert Dog
It wasn't ugly...it was FUGLY.
Whoever designs these things should look at the Vietnam Wall in DC or the Oklahoma City Memorial...those are so simple yet so powerful...
People HATED the Vietnam Wall when it was first proposed, though. It had to grow on folks.
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Desert Dog Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:52:00pm |
re: #241 SanFranciscoZionist
Honestly, I could have gone for just a memorial grove and a simple stone with a plaque in the middle.
Anything where you have to explain the natural entry to the healing experience, it's just too woowoo for my taste. For something like this, anyway.
I agree...I am surprised they don;t have rides...that is too much...
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:53:05pm |
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:53:20pm |
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SteveC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:53:22pm |
re: #239 Charles
And by the way ...
If you try to promote the "United 93 sekrit mosque" conspiracy theory at LGF, I promise you that it's not going to go over well.
DAMNIT CHARLES! Now the Sekrit is out! :)
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:53:27pm |
Here I thought the Flight 93 Memorial was a piece of good news.
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Desert Dog Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:53:31pm |
re: #243 SanFranciscoZionist
People HATED the Vietnam Wall when it was first proposed, though. It had to grow on folks.
I was one of them, until I went to see it...I think that is the most moving monument in DC. To see the flowers...the people etching the names on paper...even my kids were almost moved to tears when we walked that.
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:53:44pm |
I think the smoking hole was monument enough. Should have cemeted the crater as a reminder of what happens when we let our guard down.
And a simple respectful headstone for the people murdered at that spot.
It's a grave. It's not a tourist attraction
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rain of lead Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:54:21pm |
re: #242 SteveC
wow, can't pump enough o2 into someone to keep them alive
that is some scary shit
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:54:45pm |
re: #251 rain of lead
wow, can't pump enough o2 into someone to keep them alive
that is some scary shit
and ECMO machines don't grow on trees
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garycooper Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:54:46pm |
re: #229 Desert Dog
It wasn't ugly...it was FUGLY.
Whoever designs these things should look at the Vietnam Wall in DC or the Oklahoma City Memorial...those are so simple yet so powerful...
I recall when the Vietnam Wall first appeared, how many vets and citizens were offended by its stark design. Now, it's pretty well universally acknowledged as a brilliant, simple, moving statement to a war that still evokes a lot of complex emotion, overridden by sorrow and anger. My family suffered a great deal from that war, and I've been to the Wall several times. It wrecks me every time.
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Sharmuta Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:54:53pm |
re: #248 Gus 802
Here I thought the Flight 93 Memorial was a piece of good news.
It is. They are national heros worthy of a monument. Sacred ground, indeed.
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:55:39pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:56:36pm |
re: #240 Gus 802
The crescent and the star of their flag and that Turkey is essentially an Islamic nation. They claim the plan was based on this.
I must insist that Turkey is a secular kinda-sorta-democracy with a majority Muslim population. Ataturk would want me to mention that.
I can vaguely see the charge that the semi-circle is actually a crescent, I think it's ridiculous, but you can sort of see what they mean, visually speaking.
I just can't think of a reason why if you were gonna secretly work a Muslim visual in, you'd pick the flag of Turkey, specifically. They're not exactly jihad central, what with their yammering to get into the EU. Hell, they're in NATO.
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garycooper Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:56:39pm |
re: #239 Charles
And by the way ...
If you try to promote the "United 93 sekrit mosque" conspiracy theory at LGF, I promise you that it's not going to go over well.
I've been out of the loop, I guess. This is the first time I've heard of that loopy conspiracy.
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:56:42pm |
re: #241 SanFranciscoZionist
Honestly, I could have gone for just a memorial grove and a simple stone with a plaque in the middle.
Agreed.
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:58:09pm |
re: #250 Shug
It's a grave. It's not a tourist attraction
Exactly. And I don't want bureaucrats to write the eulogy.
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:58:14pm |
re: #254 Sharmuta
It is. They are national heros worthy of a monument. Sacred ground, indeed.
Maybe I'm just a simpleton but, if it were up to me, I'm build a fence around the area and erect a marble wall with the names of the dead. Maybe a few benches.
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Van Helsing Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:58:39pm |
re: #215 Mich-again
That will probably end up being reported as a 23% pay cut. Everyone knows that in Government-speak when you reduce a projected future increase its actually a cut.
It was done to Reagan every time.
Decreasing the planned growth was always a cut and the children would starve and they'd push Granny down the stairs.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:58:41pm |
re: #242 SteveC
Last time I had the flu, was about twenty years ago. I was a college student. I was lying in bed, sick as a dog, too weak to move, and trying to cheer myself up, I muttered "It's just the flu. No one ever died from the flu."
Then it occurred to me that that was, well, seriously not true. And I started laughing, and almost fell out of bed because I couldn't stop.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:58:46pm |
re: #250 Shug
I think the smoking hole was monument enough. Should have cemeted the crater as a reminder of what happens when we let our guard down.
And a simple respectful headstone for the people murdered at that spot.
It's a grave. It's not a tourist attraction
I visited the USS Arizona on a cool tuesday morning..It was a very powerful experience...We show them honor with memorials for all the generations to remember our fallen heroes.
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:59:21pm |
re: #250 Shug
I think the smoking hole was monument enough. Should have cemeted the crater as a reminder of what happens when we let our guard down.
And a simple respectful headstone for the people murdered at that spot.
It's a grave. It's not a tourist attraction
FUCKING-A.
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:59:23pm |
re: #261 MandyManners
Maybe I'm just a simpleton but, if it were up to me, I'm build a fence around the area and erect a marble wall with the names of the dead. Maybe a few benches.
and just the families could go in
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:59:45pm |
re: #262 Van Helsing
It was done to Reagan every time.
Decreasing the planned growth was always a cut and the children would starve and they'd push Granny down the stairs.
And then eat all her cans of dog food. You forgot that part.
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rain of lead Mon, Aug 31, 2009 7:59:53pm |
re: #255 MandyManners
Hey Mandy!
this is for you!vol fever
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:00:03pm |
re: #260 Mich-again
Exactly. And I don't want bureaucrats to write the eulogy.
Espcially those in this administration.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:00:30pm |
re: #262 Van Helsing
It was done to Reagan every time.
Decreasing the planned growth was always a cut and the children would starve and they'd push Granny down the stairs.
primitive death panel
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:00:49pm |
re: #262 Van Helsing
It was done to Reagan every time.
Decreasing the planned growth was always a cut and the children would starve and they'd push Granny down the stairs.
And they did, didn't they?
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:01:04pm |
re: #266 Shug
and just the families could go in
No.
America was the target that day. We were all victims.
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Van Helsing Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:01:35pm |
re: #229 Desert Dog
It wasn't ugly...it was FUGLY.
Whoever designs these things should look at the Vietnam Wall in DC or the Oklahoma City Memorial...those are so simple yet so powerful...
The Oklahoma City Memorial was... just stunning.
Stunning.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:01:45pm |
re: #264 HoosierHoops
I visited the USS Arizona on a cool tuesday morning..It was a very powerful experience...We show them honor with memorials for all the generations to remember our fallen heroes.
I very much want to visit the Arizona.
My in-laws are in Hawaii, so maybe we'll manage to visit sometime soon.
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:01:53pm |
re: #264 HoosierHoops
I visited the USS Arizona on a cool tuesday morning..It was a very powerful experience...We show them honor with memorials for all the generations to remember our fallen heroes.
I felt the same way when I was there. I was honored to even be in the presence of those dead men below me. The oil bubbling up reminded me of tears.
But those were military guys KIA. The folks on UAL93 were civilians.
and THANK GOD that the modern day bureaucrat didn't erect the USS Arizona Memorial. No doubt there would be a section for the japanese perspective on why the attack was justified.
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:02:09pm |
re: #268 rain of lead
Hey Mandy!
this is for you!vol fever
Page not found.
Any way, I GOT MY VOLUNTEERFEVER covered, thank you!
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:02:21pm |
re: #256 SanFranciscoZionist
I must insist that Turkey is a secular kinda-sorta-democracy with a majority Muslim population. Ataturk would want me to mention that.
I can vaguely see the charge that the semi-circle is actually a crescent, I think it's ridiculous, but you can sort of see what they mean, visually speaking.
I just can't think of a reason why if you were gonna secretly work a Muslim visual in, you'd pick the flag of Turkey, specifically. They're not exactly jihad central, what with their yammering to get into the EU. Hell, they're in NATO.
Right. Officially it's supposed to a secular government but that's a work in progress.
A few years ago there was a controversy surrounding the logo for Proctor & Gamble which was being called a satanic symbol. I'm not to familiar with that but I think it also involved a boycott of sorts. They changed that logo to a simple P&G.
It's a little worrisome that designers have to be careful for so called hidden meanings.
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SteveC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:02:47pm |
re: #252 Shug
and ECMO machines don't grow on trees
ECMO machines are hell on the system. Infants can handle it for about 21 days, then they HAVE to get off of it. Their organs will start shutting down if they don't. Adults last longer, but overall survival once you go on ECMO is about 60%.
I got really close to this young man who needed heart surgery, great kid about 11. We played cards before the docs came for him. I hung around for a while and then had to take off - had a meeting. Came back that night and learned he had come out of surgery on ECMO.
That just tears you up.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:02:59pm |
I would put an eternal flame in the middle of a marbled ground over the crater, with the names carved on a wall that covers the edge of a small portion of the circle. I would also put a large American flag in the center on a pole in front of the eternal flame.
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Sharmuta Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:03:26pm |
re: #261 MandyManners
Maybe I'm just a simpleton but, if it were up to me, I'm build a fence around the area and erect a marble wall with the names of the dead. Maybe a few benches.
There is no tribute worthy enough to express my wonder at their heroism. Word, deeds- they fall short. All I have is tears and praise for their names.
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A Man for all Seasons Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:03:44pm |
re: #274 SanFranciscoZionist
I very much want to visit the Arizona.
My in-laws are in Hawaii, so maybe we'll manage to visit sometime soon.
The slow leaking of oil is called the tears of the Arizona...Very powerful memorial..
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:04:15pm |
re: #279 TheMatrix31
I would put an eternal flame in the middle of a marbled ground over the crater, with the names carved on a wall that covers the edge of a small portion of the circle.
Not all the names. I can think of a few I'd leave out.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:04:25pm |
re: #279 TheMatrix31
I would put an eternal flame in the middle of a marbled ground over the crater, with the names carved on a wall that covers the edge of a small portion of the circle. I would also put a large American flag in the center on a pole in front of the eternal flame.
Eternal flames are under fire ... the one on the National WW1 Museum in Kansas City is short on funds ... and I'm pretty sure Algore wouldn't approve.
/
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Van Helsing Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:04:35pm |
re: #271 SanFranciscoZionist
And they did, didn't they?
Not to my knowledge. Always looking to be enlightened, though.
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rain of lead Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:04:38pm |
re: #276 MandyManners
D'oh
should have been rocky top
hope the new coach can do some good
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:05:02pm |
re: #278 SteveC
ECMO machines are hell on the system. Infants can handle it for about 21 days, then they HAVE to get off of it. Their organs will start shutting down if they don't. Adults last longer, but overall survival once you go on ECMO is about 60%.
I got really close to this young man who needed heart surgery, great kid about 11. We played cards before the docs came for him. I hung around for a while and then had to take off - had a meeting. Came back that night and learned he had come out of surgery on ECMO.
That just tears you up.
I've taken care of my share of patients on ECMO. Works great when it works. Buys you some time.
and yes, it's no simple fix. takes a big toll
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Desert Dog Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:05:48pm |
re: #283 OldLineTexan
Eternal flames are under fire ... the one on the National WW1 Museum in Kansas City is short on funds ... and I'm pretty sure Algore wouldn't approve.
/
We could burn copies of his book...eternally
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:06:08pm |
re: #279 TheMatrix31
I would put an eternal flame in the middle of a marbled ground over the crater, with the names carved on a wall that covers the edge of a small portion of the circle. I would also put a large American flag in the center on a pole in front of the eternal flame.
I like that.
Of course the American Flag would offend the families of the dead Hijackers and CAIR would sue you
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:06:11pm |
re: #287 Desert Dog
Hey, I missed you on the last thread.
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:06:39pm |
re: #287 Desert Dog
We could burn copies of his book...eternally
But we'd have to buy carbon credits and offsets from him ... the rat batsard.
/
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Desert Dog Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:07:01pm |
re: #289 Walter L. Newton
Hey, I missed you on the last thread.
I am going to drive over to that Church tomorrow...it is literally 1 mile from my office. Maybe I'll go in? See what's up?
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:07:07pm |
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:07:39pm |
re: #291 Desert Dog
I am going to drive over to that Church tomorrow...it is literally 1 mile from my office. Maybe I'll go in? See what's up?
What?
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SteveC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:07:52pm |
re: #260 Mich-again
Exactly. And I don't want bureaucrats to write the eulogy.
I'm surprised that there hasn't been a September 11th 30% off sale yet.
/Maybe there has and I just haven't heard of it.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:08:31pm |
re: #288 Shug
I like that.
Of course the American Flag would offend the families of the dead Hijackers and CAIR would sue you
They can suck me.
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:08:35pm |
re: #288 Shug
CAIR would sue you
Officially, CAIR was repulsed by the events of 9/11 and seeks to promote a dialogue between all parties involved to prevent similar future events.
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:09:43pm |
re: #285 rain of lead
D'oh
should have been rocky top
hope the new coach can do some good
It will be FOOTBALL TIME IN TENNESSEE soon enough.
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Desert Dog Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:09:49pm |
re: #293 Walter L. Newton
The last thread was the Arizona Gun Stunt and the Pastor of Dead...that church is right by my office.
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Ringo the Gringo Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:10:20pm |
Just looked out my front window and the hills only a few miles from my home are blazing with bright orange flames and billowing smoke like an erupting volcano.
This fire is crazy close to the edge of the city.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:10:54pm |
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OldLineTexan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:11:01pm |
re: #298 Desert Dog
The last thread was the Arizona Gun Stunt and the Pastor of Dead...that church is right by my office.
Don't let the racist rayz get you!
/
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:12:25pm |
re: #299 Ringo the Gringo
I might leave the house a little, I wonder how it looks from the view coming down my hill.
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:12:51pm |
re: #299 Ringo the Gringo
Just looked out my front window and the hills only a few miles from my home are blazing with bright orange flames and billowing smoke like an erupting volcano.
This fire is crazy close to the edge of the city.
Called my parents this afternoon. They live between Sunset and Mulholland. They told me the fire is not as close as it was when I visited four years ago.
That was scary. My flight was the last one to land at LAX. All other flights were being diverted.
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:13:06pm |
For the Detroiters:
Our checkout girl today at our supermarket told me that Monica Conyers shops there all the time and she frequently pays with a bridge card. said she called the local news " hall of shame" and guy told her she wasn't the first one to call saying that. hmmm
/who knew Congressmen were poor enough to need food stamps
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Bobblehead Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:13:41pm |
The first time I heard that song was in the movie of the same name starring Susan Hayward as the singer Jane Froman. The singer herself provided the vocals. It's one of those heartwarming films that only Hollywood could produce in it's heyday. Well worth your time. Wonderful tunes.
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MandyManners Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:13:50pm |
Did someone mention "CAIR".
[Link: vids.myspace.com...]
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:13:54pm |
re: #304 Shug
For the Detroiters:
Our checkout girl today at our supermarket told me that Monica Conyers shops there all the time and she frequently pays with a bridge card. said she called the local news " hall of shame" and guy told her she wasn't the first one to call saying that. hmmm
/who knew Congressmen were poor enough to need food stamps
What's a bridge card?
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:14:06pm |
re: #287 Desert Dog
We could burn copies of his book...eternally
I think the message might be slightly confusing.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:14:16pm |
re: #303 Alouette
Called my parents this afternoon. They live between Sunset and Mulholland. They told me the fire is not as close as it was when I visited four years ago.
That was scary. My flight was the last one to land at LAX. All other flights were being diverted.
Yeah, I'm right around there. About 300 yards from Mulholland in a straight line on the North side. Fire's not around us at all.
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:14:21pm |
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:14:40pm |
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Vicious Babushka Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:14:49pm |
re: #311 Shug
It's a debit card to use instead of food stamps.
Shit, I make less money than Monica Conyers. How can I get one?
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:15:04pm |
To do the victims of Flight 93 justice, the Memorial needs to point out that this "event" was an act of mass murder of American civilians. Don't try to hide the ugly truth behind the symbolism of juxtaposed trees.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:15:07pm |
re: #299 Ringo the Gringo
Just looked out my front window and the hills only a few miles from my home are blazing with bright orange flames and billowing smoke like an erupting volcano.
This fire is crazy close to the edge of the city.
You be safe now, you hear?
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:16:56pm |
re: #313 Alouette
Shit, I make less money than Monica Conyers. How can I get one?
sounds to me like they're just giving em out...;)
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Ringo the Gringo Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:17:00pm |
re: #303 Alouette
The fire that I can see is coming down the hill at the back of the San Fernando Valley, above Burbank and Tajunga.
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:17:18pm |
re: #304 Shug
Well she is unemployed these days no? So what if her hubby is a US Congresscritter.
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:17:47pm |
re: #313 Alouette
Shit, I make less money than Monica Conyers. How can I get one?
of course, she's about to get a few years of free room and board ( hopefully )
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Ringo the Gringo Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:18:14pm |
re: #312 TheMatrix31
Me too...well, Valley Village to be exact.
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Flyers1974 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:18:55pm |
re: #277 Gus 802
Right. Officially it's supposed to a secular government but that's a work in progress.
A few years ago there was a controversy surrounding the logo for Proctor & Gamble which was being called a satanic symbol. I'm not to familiar with that but I think it also involved a boycott of sorts. They changed that logo to a simple P&G.
It's a little worrisome that designers have to be careful for so called hidden meanings.
The P & G logo controversy:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:18:58pm |
re: #319 Mich-again
Well she is unemployed these days no? So what if her hubby is a US Congresscritter.
Something tells me they are way above the financial qualifications to get one of those..
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Van Helsing Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:18:58pm |
re: #319 Mich-again
Well she is unemployed these days no? So what if her hubby is a US Congresscritter.
Is the cost of living that high in Detroit? Government pay rates
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:22:08pm |
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Van Helsing Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:22:33pm |
re: #324 Van Helsing
Is the cost of living that high in Detroit? Government pay rates
And they get a COLA automatically unless the vote NOT to.
Wanna start a pool and see if they delete their COLA this year in solidarity with social security recipients?
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:22:48pm |
re: #323 Shug
Something tells me they are way above the financial qualifications to get one of those..
She might be getting a good deal, like paying $20 cash for a $50 Bridge card. She gets more for her money at the store and the other person gets some cash for things a Bridge card won't cover. Win-win except for the taxpayers.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:22:48pm |
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:23:17pm |
re: #322 Flyers1974
The P & G logo controversy:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Thanks, that's the one. Amazing isn't it?
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SteveC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:24:15pm |
7th grade football player fell over dead after a drill. (St Louis area) Folks with an opinion think he had a heart problem, because his dad worked a double at the factory and then collapsed and died.
I'm wondering if being 383 pounds might have had something to do with it???
/Mom/wife comment about the dad: "He clocked out, and then he clocked out."
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Flyers1974 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:26:31pm |
re: #331 Gus 802
Thanks, that's the one. Amazing isn't it?
Yes. And I didn't know about the Amway connection.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:28:23pm |
re: #332 SteveC
7th grade football player fell over dead after a drill. (St Louis area) Folks with an opinion think he had a heart problem, because his dad worked a double at the factory and then collapsed and died.
I'm wondering if being 383 pounds might have had something to do with it???
/Mom/wife comment about the dad: "He clocked out, and then he clocked out."
The child was 383 pounds, or the father?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:28:43pm |
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Gus Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:29:05pm |
re: #335 Flyers1974
Yes. And I didn't know about the Amway connection.
I vaguely recall Amway being involved but even if I didn't that's not too surprising.
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Mich-again Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:31:10pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:32:37pm |
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wee fury Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:34:52pm |
re: #229 Desert Dog
There was a lot of opposition to the Viet Nam memorial.
Also in the capital, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial was dedicated in 1982 to commemorate the U.S. personnel who died or were declared missing in action in Vietnam. The memorial, which consists of a V-shaped black granite wall etched with more than 58,000 names, was at first a source of controversy because it does not glorify the military but invites somber reflection. The Asian ancestry of its prizewinning designer, Maya Lin, was also an issue for some veterans. In 1983 a bronze cast was added, depicting one white, one black, and one Hispanic American soldier. This led to additional controversy since some argued that the sculpture muted the original memorial’s solemn message. In 1993 a statue of three women cradling a wounded soldier was also added to the site to commemorate the service of the 11,000 military nurses who treated soldiers in Vietnam. Despite all of the controversies, the Vietnam Veterans Memorial has become a site of pilgrimage for veterans and civilians alike.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:35:23pm |
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SteveC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:40:17pm |
re: #344 wee fury
In 1993 a statue of three women cradling a wounded soldier was also added to the site to commemorate the service of the 11,000 military nurses who treated soldiers in Vietnam.
We had to talk my aunt into going to the Nurse's dedication, and then saw her on TV.
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The Shadow Do Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:42:29pm |
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Shug Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:45:30pm |
Channel Surfing. Just caught a few seconds of that tired old hack David Letterman.
The BDS is very strong in him
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Killgore Trout Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:49:23pm |
I've had quite a few dreams lately about sleeping. Odd.
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VioletTiger Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:51:15pm |
re: #352 Killgore Trout
Killgore,
How is your Mom feeling?
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yochanan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:53:53pm |
re: #333 SteveC
THE FINEST WINES AND CHEESES!
how to atract all your liberal chatting classes in one place to ...
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:54:25pm |
re: #354 yochanan
how to atract all your liberal chatting classes in one place to ...
We're like mice. Alcoholic mice.
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Desert Dog Mon, Aug 31, 2009 8:58:26pm |
re: #309 SanFranciscoZionist
I think the message might be slightly confusing.
You're right. We should use his book in a more appropriate manner...as TP or a bird cage liner.
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esch Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:00:57pm |
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VioletTiger Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:02:19pm |
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srb1976 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:03:21pm |
re: #359 VioletTiger
Evening.
Where did everybody go?
Apparently they saw me coming?? (I took a shower, I don't think I smell)
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Killgore Trout Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:03:35pm |
re: #353 VioletTiger
I haven't talked to her in a while but she seems to be doing better. She sent me an embarrassed email apologizing for being confused. I think she was just having bad day.
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SteveC Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:03:41pm |
re: #354 yochanan
how to atract all your liberal chatting classes in one place to ...
Hey now, why should the shouters, the doubters, and the pouters enjoy all the finer things in life? We're paying for it!
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VioletTiger Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:04:15pm |
re: #360 srb1976
Apparently they saw me coming?? (I took a shower, I don't think I smell)
Is the little cutie in your avatar your daughter?
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realwest Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:04:23pm |
re: #344 wee fury
Hi wee fury - I'm more than a little familiar with the backstory on the US Vietnam Veterans Memorial, as we were just starting to put together the Mayors 100 (a committee of 50 of us Vietnam Vets and 50 businesspeople who would help to raise funds for it - and yes, Donald Trump DID give one million bucks to it in NYC) and so was in touch with a number of folks on the DC Memorial.
Most of the opposition I was told (and observed) was not that an Asian woman designed it, nor because it doesn't "glorify" the military. MOST of the opposition was centered around the fact that OUR memorial would be the Only Black Memorial in a City full of White Marble and the only Memorial that would be below ground level.
I was, fwiw, against putting up the Bronze statue of the three men (put up, I do believe for racial and ethnic diversity reasons) but had no trouble with the Nurses being added at all.
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Desert Dog Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:04:27pm |
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VioletTiger Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:04:56pm |
re: #361 Killgore Trout
I haven't talked to her in a while but she seems to be doing better. She sent me an embarrassed email apologizing for being confused. I think she was just having bad day.
Glad to hear it.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:06:10pm |
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srb1976 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:06:14pm |
re: #363 VioletTiger
Is the little cutie in your avatar your daughter?
Yep...that's Her Royal Stoutness herself = )
Thanks!
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srb1976 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:07:23pm |
re: #365 Desert Dog
I almost hate to admit it...but I love Cake...too funny
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Killgore Trout Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:09:07pm |
Hamas leader denies Nazi genocide of Jews
A Hamas spiritual leader on Monday called teaching Palestinian children about the Nazi murder of 6 million Jews a "war crime," rejecting a suggestion that the U.N. might include the Holocaust in Gaza's school curriculum.
...
Hamas spiritual leader Younis al-Astal lashed out after hearing that the U.N. Relief and Works Agency, the main U.N. body aiding Palestinian refugees, planned to introduce lessons about the Holocaust to Gaza students.Adding the Holocaust to the curriculum would amount to "marketing a lie and spreading it," al-Astal wrote in a statement.
"I do not exaggerate when I say this issue is a war crime, because of how it serves the Zionist colonizers and deals with their hypocrisy and lies," he wrote.
A U.N. official said no decision has been made about introducing Holocaust education in Gaza.
heh.
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VioletTiger Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:10:27pm |
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srb1976 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:13:20pm |
re: #371 VioletTiger
How old is she?
The picture was taken at her first birthday...she'll be 2 in 3 weeks (her birthday is right after her big brothers...only 12 days between them, he'll be 5)
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VioletTiger Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:20:02pm |
re: #372 srb1976
The picture was taken at her first birthday...she'll be 2 in 3 weeks (her birthday is right after her big brothers...only 12 days between them, he'll be 5)
Wow, they must keep you busy.
How are you still awake?
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tradewind Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:20:38pm |
One of my fave sites, Unclutterer, uses Jeff Bezos' statement in the aftermath of the Kindle/Orwell mess as an example of the perfect apology:
[Link: unclutterer.com...]
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realwest Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:21:58pm |
re: #373 VioletTiger
Hi Violet Tiger - what makes you think that they are asleep?!?
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srb1976 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:22:06pm |
re: #373 VioletTiger
Wow, they must keep you busy.
How are you still awake?
They are a handful (a really fun one)...but daycare plus a day off work means a nice break for me = )
(he's in pre-k this year and she LOVES her toddler class)
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srb1976 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:22:51pm |
re: #375 realwest
Hi Violet Tiger - what makes you think that they are asleep?!?
Good call...he is, she isn't...but she should be, so I'm not letting her out (she's just whining, not crying)
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pat Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:25:24pm |
A story about Republicans who do the work of the Democrats. Useful Fools.
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
And because of the stroking of the press and the financial rewards of the intelligentsia, it is always a one way street to those of little will.
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VioletTiger Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:25:41pm |
re: #375 realwest
Hi Violet Tiger - what makes you think that they are asleep?!?
Oh geez, forgot about that part of kids!
I'm the only one up now. Even the cats are asleep.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:26:31pm |
I just rolled down my hill to Radio Shack (btw, those guys are fucking assholes). The fire from my house looks like a glowing volcano. If it wasn't so destructive, I'd call it bad ass-looking.
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realwest Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:26:52pm |
LOL! I'm the only one up now and about to call it a night!
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Desert Dog Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:27:04pm |
re: #369 srb1976
I almost hate to admit it...but I love Cake...too funny
I like Cake, but I am not too fond of cake.
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VioletTiger Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:27:57pm |
re: #381 realwest
LOL! I'm the only one up now and about to call it a night!
'Nite real.
Pleasant dreams.
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BARACK THE VOTE Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:28:13pm |
re: #337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Screw that. Got any cake?
"Cake, and fine wine."
"We want the finest wines available to humanity. We want them here, and we want them now. "
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VioletTiger Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:28:22pm |
re: #380 TheMatrix31
I just rolled down my hill to Radio Shack (btw, those guys are fucking assholes). The fire from my house looks like a glowing volcano. If it wasn't so destructive, I'd call it bad ass-looking.
Are you potentially in harms way?
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Silvergirl Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:29:18pm |
re: #263 SanFranciscoZionist
Last time I had the flu, was about twenty years ago. I was a college student. I was lying in bed, sick as a dog, too weak to move, and trying to cheer myself up, I muttered "It's just the flu. No one ever died from the flu."
Then it occurred to me that that was, well, seriously not true. And I started laughing, and almost fell out of bed because I couldn't stop.
And what medically necessary substance were you smoking when this laughing jag came on?
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realwest Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:29:25pm |
re: #383 VioletTiger
Thanks, but about to doesn't = going to bed now! LOL!
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The Shadow Do Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:30:39pm |
re: #370 Killgore Trout
A U.N. official said no decision has been made about introducing Holocaust education in Gaza.
And there you have it. Still, it is pleasurable to hear the yelps.
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VioletTiger Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:30:41pm |
re: #387 realwest
Thanks, but about to doesn't = going to bed now! LOL!
Sorry real! Wasn't trying to chase you away!
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yochanan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:32:46pm |
re: #378 pat
A story about Republicans who do the work of the Democrats. Useful Fools.
[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]
And because of the stroking of the prick of the intelligentsia, it is always a one way street to those of little will.
FTFY
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yochanan Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:35:13pm |
re: #388 The Shadow Do
And there you have it. Still, it is pleasurable to hear the yelps.
TROW A ROCK INTO A PACK OF CURS AND THE ONE YOU HIT YELPS THE LOUDEST.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:35:15pm |
re: #386 Silvergirl
And what medically necessary substance were you smoking when this laughing jag came on?
Don't I only wish. I was high on NyQuil.
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wee fury Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:39:40pm |
re: #364 realwest
Hi wee fury - I'm more than a little familiar with the backstory on the US Vietnam Veterans Memorial, as we were just starting to put together the Mayors 100 (a committee of 50 of us Vietnam Vets and 50 businesspeople who would help to raise funds for it - and yes, Donald Trump DID give one million bucks to it in NYC) and so was in touch with a number of folks on the DC Memorial.
Most of the opposition I was told (and observed) was not that an Asian woman designed it, nor because it doesn't "glorify" the military. MOST of the opposition was centered around the fact that OUR memorial would be the Only Black Memorial in a City full of White Marble and the only Memorial that would be below ground level.
I was, fwiw, against putting up the Bronze statue of the three men (put up, I do believe for racial and ethnic diversity reasons) but had no trouble with the Nurses being added at all.
Yes. The controversies were many --
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Aug 31, 2009 9:40:06pm |
re: #385 VioletTiger
Are you potentially in harms way?
Nope, I'm about 20 miles away from the fire area. Just crappy air quality.
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Abu Al-Poopypants Mon, Aug 31, 2009 11:46:10pm |
re: #4 HoosierHoops
I saw this jazz band once at the Great American Music Hall In SF years ago..
Their name was Oregon..And they just blew me away...I can't remember who they were but they were just monsters on the stage...
I should google them and download a CD
Could be my favorite band:
Ralph Towner - guitar, keyboards
Paul McCandless - woodwinds
Glen Moore - bass
Collin Walcott - percussion, sitar (died in 84)
Trilok Gurtu - percussion (87-93)
Mark Walker - drums (97-present)
Conventional wisdom says their peak period was in the 70's, but I think their recent stuff holds up well against anything they did.
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