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An open thread, with fish. Lots of fish.

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1 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:14:29pm

Afternoon Lizards. How's everyone?

2 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:14:44pm

It's beautiful.

3 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:14:47pm

Don't tap on the glass

4 jcm  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:15:56pm

WTO to rule on Boeing, Airbus' epic trade dispute

Boeing and Airbus expect to find out Friday who won the first round in their epic trade dispute, when the World Trade Organization rules on a five-year-old U.S. complaint that argues European governments unfairly financed Airbus' climb to world No. 1 planemaker.

The ruling could pressure Europe to rethink how it funds a strategic company that employs 52,000 people and provides work for numerous suppliers. It could also affect competition for a $35 billion U.S. Air Force contract for air tankers.

The United States hopes the trade body will condemn the European Union, representing Britain, France, Germany and Spain, for providing what it calls illegal subsidies that give Airbus, based in Toulouse, France, an advantage in a market worth $3 trillion over the next two decades.

For its part, the 27-nation EU believes a verdict in its favor would shift the focus back onto what it considers the backdoor funding that NASA and the U.S. Defense Department provide to Boeing. That complaint from the EU will be the subject of a second ruling expected in six months.

5 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:16:05pm

So many lawyers

6 UFO TOFU  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:16:14pm

This is kind of interesting.

7 Izzyboy  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:17:06pm

re: #5 Shug

So many lawyers

Not enough guns?

I KID I KID

8 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:17:22pm

If Tom Cruise comes along and slaps a wad of gum on that glass...look out.

9 KingKenrod  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:17:38pm

Those look like Whale Sharks at the beginning. Pretty incredible.

10 jcm  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:18:35pm

re: #3 Shug

Don't tap on the glass

The world's largest aquarium window, it measures a staggering 8.2 metres (27 feet) by 22.5 (74 feet) metres and is more than 60cm (2 feet) thick

Read more:

11 jcm  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:19:26pm

Any body got any fishing gear?

12 Izzyboy  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:20:01pm

Someone mentioned Hanlon's razor earlier, went the Wikipedia and found this cool list.

13 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:20:08pm

re: #4 jcm

WTO to rule on Boeing, Airbus' epic trade dispute

One of the fish in the beginning of the video look like a fricken airplane.

14 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:20:20pm

re: #11 jcm

Any body got any fishing gear?

I live in Florida. No.

15 Izzyboy  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:20:33pm

re: #12 Izzyboy

Gah, "went to Wikipedia"

16 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:21:49pm

If you bait your hook with your heart, you'll die

17 The Other Les  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:21:54pm

What? No wheel of fish?

18 Bobblehead  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:22:30pm

re: #6 UFO TOFU

This is kind of interesting.

Fascinating! I looked at those "before" photos and wondered how many of those soldiers made it home after the war?

19 pat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:24:18pm

I thought all the fish were dead from floating oriental plastic jetsam?

20 96RoadKing  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:24:43pm

re: #5 Shug

So many lawyers

What do you call 1,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea?

21 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:25:39pm

. re: #20 96RoadKing
A good start.
. .

22 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:25:40pm

re: #6 UFO TOFU

This is kind of interesting.

Absolutely cool!

You could take pictures of Detroit "then and now" which would look exactly the reverse of the pictures of Normandy.

23 researchok  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:25:47pm

Incredible video.

Those aquariums are fantastic.

24 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:27:02pm

re: #19 pat

I thought all the fish were dead from floating oriental plastic jetsam?

That's right, Pat. We've got fish in a tank, so no need to worry about a floating dump twice the size of Texas.

25 UFO TOFU  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:28:21pm

re: #1 midwestgak

Afternoon Lizards. How's everyone?

I'll get back to you on that. Our two local fires were put out this morning, now it's raining.

26 The Other Les  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:28:57pm

re: #20 96RoadKing

What do you call 1,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea?

Nice try.

27 96RoadKing  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:29:27pm

re: #18 Bobblehead

Fascinating! I looked at those "before" photos and wondered how many of those soldiers made it home after the war?

Not enough...God bless them!

28 opnion  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:29:36pm

Which ones are the Sea kittens, or are they all sea Kittenns?

29 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:30:04pm

surprise surprise surprise

" lgfrefugee " has just shown up on the stalker blog

30 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:30:05pm

Asked this question once already, so now I'll throw it out to Lizards as a whole: Has anyone worked with Russian charoite?

31 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:30:33pm

Anyone have updates on the lizards in the fire zone?

32 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:31:00pm

re: #28 opnion

Which ones are the Sea kittens, or are they all sea Kittenns?

I thought I saw a tiger shark.

Here, kitteh, kitteh, kitteh.

33 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:31:43pm

re: #30 EmmmieG

Asked this question once already, so now I'll throw it out to Lizards as a whole: Has anyone worked with Russian charoite?

How do you mean? Work is as in cut, grind and polish?

34 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:31:49pm

re: #25 UFO TOFU

I'll get back to you on that. Our two local fires were put out this morning, now it's raining.

Good. No? The rainy season doesn't kick in until January. So mud slides aren't in the immediate future.

You are on the front lines. What do you see coming?

35 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:31:59pm

re: #30 EmmmieG

Asked this question once already, so now I'll throw it out to Lizards as a whole: Has anyone worked with Russian charoite?

No, but I once donated to a Russian charity.

36 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:32:13pm

re: #29 Shug
Dude, I'm bummed. Tons of old lizards at AoSHQ.

37 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:33:47pm

re: #33 Walter L. Newton

How do you mean? Work is as in cut, grind and polish?

I only saw it recently. Work with meant design any jewelry with at all. I'm trying to decide if I want to acquire some.

38 Yashmak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:34:25pm

I keep an aquarium at home. Lotsa fish.
Gouramis, Harlequin Raspboras, Cherry Barbs, a Red-Tail Shark, multiple Corydoras, a few Platies, a Swordtail, and one rather large Plecostomus named Al Pacino.

39 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:34:25pm

I can't see the video, is Killgore in there?

40 UFO TOFU  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:35:06pm

re: #34 midwestgak

I'm at the little fires, the Oak Glen and the Pendleton. The last smoke that I saw was an hour ago; I think were done.

41 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:35:12pm

re: #29 Shug

surprise surprise surprise

" lgfrefugee " has just shown up on the stalker blog

Oh, no.
If I ever say anything banworthy, I can guarantee I will never show up at that place. Never.

42 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:35:37pm

re: #39 CyanSnowHawk

I can't see the video, is Killgore in there?

Now I wish I shad stayed off this thread.

43 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:36:18pm

re: #38 Yashmak
Are those salt water or fresh? I don't know a thing about fish except the tasty ones.

44 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:37:10pm

re: #43 snowcrash

Are those salt water or fresh? I don't know a thing about fish except the tasty ones.

Fresh.
All sharks are fresh water fish.

45 allah this  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:38:15pm

Fish? Why can't I just eat my waffle?

46 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:38:29pm

re: #42 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Now I wish I shad stayed off this thread.

Oh, I'm just here for the halibut.

47 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:38:58pm

re: #46 EmmmieG

Oh, I'm just here for the halibut.

Piker

48 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:39:13pm
49 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:39:17pm

re: #44 pre-Boomer Marine brat
No. I was talking about Yashmaks home aquarium. silly boomer!

50 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:39:44pm

I'm really not clear on this whole anti-LGF stalker blog concept.

If I quit the Catholic Church, would I go and join the LaVeyans?

(I had a real live British LaVeyan go after me on Facebook last week. A friend of a friend, with exactly one friend, i.e. my friend. A nearly friendless person. Shocka. I took issue with his characterization of America's current president as someone who makes Hitler look like a Boy Scout. He quickly accused me of intolerance, informed me that the common image of Satan is a Christian construct - never mind his predating Christianity by millennia - and then went off in a huff. Called himself Asmodeus, and specialized in pix with a scary glare. I nearly died laughing...)

51 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:39:56pm

re: #48 buzzsawmonkey
State fish of Massachusetts.

52 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:40:32pm

re: #46 EmmmieG

Oh, I'm just here for the halibut.

I love listening to a tuna something while watching fish swim about.

53 yochanan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:41:23pm

sushi on the hoof

54 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:41:32pm

re: #52 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I love listening to a tuna something while watching fish swim about.

If you can't tune a piano, you can't tuna fish.

55 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:41:41pm

re: #49 snowcrash

No. I was talking about Yashmaks home aquarium. silly boomer!

*grin*
Facts?
We don't need no stinkin' FACTS in here!

/sorry ... )-:

57 jcm  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:42:30pm

Mount Vernon (WA) to award Glenn Beck key to city

The mayor of Mount Vernon has made it official. Mayor Bud Norris says he will give the key to his city to conservative talk show host Glenn Beck on September 26.

Norris says Beck will deliver a short talk that night and become the first person to receive a key to the city in the six years Norris has been mayor.

Protesters from the Skagit County Young Democrats walked outside city hall Tuesday with protest signs, one reading "Change the locks!"

58 oh_dude  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:42:42pm

Wow. Freak'n Awesome. Thank you Charles.

I've been a diver for 20 years and have been lucky enough to dive some really amazing sites, but I really hope aquariums like these continue to inspire more people to "get wet"

Prior to this, the two best Aquariums I've seen is the Outer Bay exhibit at Monterey Bay Aquarium and (believe it or not), the aquarium collection at the Royal Towers at the Atlantis Resort.

59 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:43:27pm

re: #48 buzzsawmonkey

Raise your hand if you believe in cod.

Walleye'd had no idea this would be a fish pun thread

61 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:43:43pm
62 jcm  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:43:43pm

re: #49 snowcrash

No. I was talking about Yashmaks home aquarium. silly boomer!

Don't ask pBMb 'bout water, he don't know you can't make coffee with salt water.

63 Diego  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:44:16pm

re: #57 jcm

Beck needs another butt operation. This time they should remove his head while they're there.

64 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:44:35pm

re: #57 jcm

Mount Vernon (WA) to award Glenn Beck key to city

LOL!
I have to agree with the Y.D.s on that one.

65 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:44:43pm
66 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:45:23pm

re: #44 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Fresh.
All sharks are fresh water fish.

I don't think that's true. Are you saying the Pacific Ocean is fresh water?

67 Diego  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:45:41pm

re: #65 buzzsawmonkey

Makes you feel kinda crappie after a while.

Your puns are starting to flounder..

68 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:46:05pm
69 Diego  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:46:41pm

re: #68 buzzsawmonkey

We will scale the heights yet.

You're making me blue :(

70 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:47:10pm

re: #37 EmmmieG

I only saw it recently. Work with meant design any jewelry with at all. I'm trying to decide if I want to acquire some.

If you want to cut, grind and polish it, it won't be a problem. It's a Mohr 5-6, the same as Opal and most Turquoise. Don't dop it, I would turn it by hand, take your time, like Opal, it can shatter. 4 wheels should do it, careful at the 180 grit that you don't carve away more than you want.

By the way, use diamond coated wheels only, get the best effect on this softer material. You may find a more satiny finish on some pieces, depending on the quality.

71 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:47:23pm

re: #66 midwestgak

I don't think that's true. Are you saying the Pacific Ocean is fresh water?

*chuckle*
That was merely silliness, yankin' snowcrash's chain.

72 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:47:29pm

re: #66 midwestgak
We were playing. I'm not that gullible.lol

73 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:47:38pm

re: #44 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Fresh.
All sharks are fresh water fish.

I have never heard of a shark attack in the Great Lakes.

74 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:47:53pm

re: #63 Diego

Beck needs another butt operation. This time they should remove his head while they're there.

Only time will tell.

75 jcm  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:48:11pm
76 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:48:34pm

re: #71 pre-Boomer Marine brat
6 seconds. ha

77 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:48:39pm

re: #72 snowcrash

We were playing. I'm not that gullible.lol

Got it. You were just being fresh./

78 Diego  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:48:40pm

re: #74 Walter L. Newton

You sure are a master baiter

79 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:48:41pm

Allahpundit linked to my Freak-Out of the Day post -- and his commenters proceeded to viciously attack both me and him, some of them calling for AP to be thrown off Hot Air.

80 UFO TOFU  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:48:42pm

re: #71 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #72 snowcrash

Wow, you guys came in within four seconds of each other.

81 jcm  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:48:57pm

re: #73 Alouette

I have never heard of a shark attack in the Great Lakes.

One swallowed the Edmund Fitzgerald.

82 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:49:10pm

re: #70 Walter L. Newton

Thanks. It's just so...purple...

83 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:49:20pm

re: #66 midwestgak

I don't think that's true. Are you saying the Pacific Ocean is fresh water?

I'm pretty sure he only meant the Pacific Ocean is fresh water on odd days of the week. Except during jumpyears. :)

84 UFO TOFU  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:49:40pm

Never mind, I wish I could count.

85 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:49:53pm

re: #81 jcm

One swallowed the Edmund Fitzgerald.

So "Gitchee-Gummee" is the Chippewa word for "Great White Man Eater"

86 Silvergirl  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:49:54pm

Kid's Fishy Sayings: a collection

1) This is a picture of an octopus. It has eight testicles. (Kelly, age 6)

2) Oysters' balls are called pearls. (Jerry, age 6)

3) If you are surrounded by ocean, you are an island. If you don't have ocean all round you, you are incontinent. ( Wayne , age 7)

4) Sharks are ugly and mean, and have big teeth, just like Emily Richardson. She's not my friend any more. (Kylie, age 6)

5) A dolphin breaths through an asshole on the top of its head. (Billy, age 8)

6) My uncle goes out in his boat with 2 other men and a woman and pots and comes back with crabs. (Millie, age 6)

7) When ships had sails, they used to use the trade winds to cross the ocean. Sometimes when the wind didn't blow the sailors would whistle to make the wind come. My brother said they would have been better off eating beans. (William, age 7)

8) Mermaids live in the ocean. I like mermaids. They are beautiful and I like their shiny tails, but how on earth do mermaids get pregnant? Like, really? (Helen, age 6)

9) I'm not going to write about the ocean. My baby brother is always crying, my Dad keeps yelling at my Mom, and my big sister has just got pregnant, so I can't think what to write. (Amy, age 6)

10) Some fish are dangerous. Jellyfish can sting. Electric eels can give you a shock. They have to live in caves under the sea where I think they have to plug themselves into chargers. (Christopher, age 7)

11) When you go swimming in the ocean, it is very cold, and it makes my willy small. (Kevin, age 6)

12) Divers have to be safe when they go under the water. Divers can't go down alone, so they have to go down on each other. (Becky, age 8)

13) On vacation my Mom went water skiing. She fell off when she was going very fast. She says she won't do it again because water fired right up her big fat ass. (Julie, age 7)

14) The ocean is made up of water and fish. Why the fish don't drown I don't know. (Bobby, age 6)

15) My dad was a sailor on the ocean. He knows all about the ocean. What he doesn't know is why he quit being a sailor and married my mom.
(James, age 7)

87 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:50:02pm

I have a dramatic announcement.
I am going to the theater.

88 Yashmak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:50:28pm

re: #43 snowcrash

Are those salt water or fresh? I don't know a thing about fish except the tasty ones.

They're freshwater. Apparently, some people who try to keep fish also don't know a thing about them, exhibit A being my acquaintance Russ, who after watching Finding Nemo ran out and bought some clownfish for his freshwater tank.

Our mutual friend Dave had just the right tone, when after the poor fish died, he asked "You do realize that Finding Nemo happens in THE OCEAN, right?"

89 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:51:07pm

re: #83 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

I'm pretty sure he only meant the Pacific Ocean is fresh water on odd days of the week. Except during jumpyears. :)

heh

90 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:51:39pm

re: #79 Charles

AP's always sorta been an odd fit on there.

91 jcm  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:51:52pm

re: #85 Alouette

So "Gitchee-Gummee" is the Chippewa word for "Great White Man Eater"

Who ya' gonna' believe me, or some folk singer?

;-P

92 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:52:04pm
93 Yashmak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:52:44pm

re: #79 Charles

Allahpundit linked to my Freak-Out of the Day post -- and his commenters proceeded to viciously attack both me and him, some of them calling for AP to be thrown off Hot Air.

Not surprising. A lot of Hot Air readers/viewers are Malkinites, and those folks have been growing ever-angrier since about mid last year. Now, anything said in their presence that even hints at criticism of Beck, or a pro-choice stance, or criticism of Michele Bachman, or what-have-you, is greeted with a torrent of abuse and name-calling.

94 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:52:52pm

re: #80 UFO TOFU

re: #72 snowcrash

Wow, you guys came in within four seconds of each other.

We wave as we surf, and then kelp going.
We can't sand it really, but the Internet's a beach.

95 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:52:54pm

re: #92 buzzsawmonkey

I am impressed by your lapidary expertise, Walter.

His lapidary prose ain't bad, either.

96 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:52:55pm

re: #84 UFO TOFU
Knew what you meant, no biggie. (hint use the fingers, I do)

97 opnion  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:53:16pm

re: #73 Alouette

I have never heard of a shark attack in the Great Lakes.

Sharks actually can exist in fresh water but they prefer salt water.
Bull Sharks have been caught as far up river as Memphis.

98 The Other Les  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:53:38pm

re: #53 yochanan

sushi on the hoof

On the fin, dude.

99 AuntAcid  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:53:45pm

re: #79 Charles

Allahpundit linked to my Freak-Out of the Day post -- and his commenters proceeded to viciously attack both me and him, some of them calling for AP to be thrown off Hot Air.

"can't we all just giddy up?"

100 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:54:10pm

re: #79 Charles

Allahpundit linked to my Freak-Out of the Day post -- and his commenters proceeded to viciously attack both me and him, some of them calling for AP to be thrown off Hot Air.

I went looking and couldn't find it.
Those commenters there are impossible to deal with. I tried once, for a few posts, and finally quit. Just impossible.

101 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:54:44pm

re: #92 buzzsawmonkey

I am impressed by your lapidary expertise, Walter.

I clip and pasted that from "The COmplete Idiots Guide to Scraping Off Fingers When Refusing To Use Dop Sticks."
//

102 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:54:55pm

re: #97 opnion

Sharks actually can exist in fresh water but they prefer salt water.
Bull Sharks have been caught as far up river as Memphis.

Damn! I did not know that!
Thanks.

103 jcm  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:55:10pm

re: #53 yochanan

sushi on the hoof

Steak Tartar?

104 Diego  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:55:16pm

re: #93 Yashmak

Not surprising. A lot of Hot Air readers/viewers are Malkinites, and those folks have been growing ever-angrier since about mid last year. Now, anything said in their presence that even hints at criticism of Beck, or a pro-choice stance, or criticism of Michele Bachman, or what-have-you, is greeted with a torrent of abuse and name-calling.

Not surprising. Earlier today I said (here) that I think Malkin is a nut and you'd have thought I'd said conservatives are all child molesters who beat their wives. I was even told to back up my opinion of her with fact lol

105 The Other Les  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:56:28pm

re: #85 Alouette

So "Gitchee-Gummee" is the Chippewa word for "Great White Man Eater"

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106 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:56:54pm

re: #100 reine.de.tout

I went looking and couldn't find it.

It's here.

107 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:58:23pm

Quote:

Does Mr. Johnson have children?

Cindy Munford on September 2, 2009 at 5:30 PM

Na. Homosexual couples can’t reproduce, fortunately.

2Brave2Bscared on September 2, 2009 at 5:31 PM

Classy!

108 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:58:23pm

re: #103 jcm

Steak Tartar?

I thought cannibalism was illegal.

109 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:58:52pm
110 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:58:55pm

re: #92 buzzsawmonkey

I am impressed by your lapidary expertise, Walter.

Actually I worked stone up to about 5 years ago, when my ex-wife asked me to live somewhere a little closer to anywhere that wasn't near her.

So, I moved into a small apartment in Golden (as most Lizards know) and I had to sell my wheels, saw and drill, since working stone in a 500 sqft apartment is nearly dangerous (dust and stuff).

Now that I am with my girlfriend up in the mountains, I have plenty of room to set up a shop, just waiting to get some money to buy new equipment.

As you know, I don't make 82 thousand a year anymore. More like about 9 thousand, I just got my pay cut at the theatre by 60 percent. Obama's get economy.

111 UFO TOFU  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 3:59:32pm

re: #107 Charles

Wow, do you ever ask yourself if having a blog is worth it?

112 Gus  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:00:00pm

re: #79 Charles

Allahpundit linked to my Freak-Out of the Day post -- and his commenters proceeded to viciously attack both me and him, some of them calling for AP to be thrown off Hot Air.

I see AP mentions that Obama's presentation will only be 20 minutes. I was thinking it might be around 1 hour. That makes the hysterical over-reaction (or freak-out) we've been seeing all the more pathetic.

113 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:00:05pm

I am having major problems accessing LGF. All other sites I visit seem to load normal. The hamsters are working themselves into a frenzy at this end of the intertubes.

114 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:00:07pm

re: #107 Charles

Quote:

Classy!

OMG!
/... then ... *spit*

115 Izzyboy  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:00:31pm

re: #107 Charles
Calling people gay is the epitome of internet wit dontcha know

116 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:01:15pm

re: #109 buzzsawmonkey

Kind of sad that these folks don't even know the name of their own show. "The Rocky Horror Show" was the name of the stage production. "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" is the name of the movie.

I produced that in 1995 in Denver. First regional production of the stage show. Very expensive weekly royalties. At that time, it was available for stock productions only, so 1 grand a week or 10 percent of the gate, what ever was more.

117 AuntAcid  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:02:13pm

re: #109 buzzsawmonkey

Kind of sad that these folks don't even know the name of their own show. "The Rocky Horror Show" was the name of the stage production. "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" is the name of the movie.

I asked for TRHPS at a video store. The kid told me to look in the "horror" section.

118 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:02:16pm

re: #113 callahan23

The hamsters are working themselves into a frenzy at this end of the intertubes.

Can you actually see them Rhine their little hearts out?

119 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:02:57pm

re: #118 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Can you actually see them Rhine their little hearts out?

That Mosel's my attention.

120 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:03:38pm

re: #113 callahan23
Glad you got through. Hi Cal! My computer problems occur when the threads get to about 1100 comments.

121 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:03:47pm

re: #117 AuntAcid

I asked for TRHPS at a video store. The kid told me to look in the "horror" section.

It's in the romance section.

122 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:03:51pm

Cindy Munford's brain
It's a single celled organ
She's an amoeba

123 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:03:54pm

re: #119 callahan23

That Mosel's my attention.

Heh, I posted that just for the Elbe of it.

124 Yashmak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:04:18pm

re: #104 Diego

Not surprising. Earlier today I said (here) that I think Malkin is a nut and you'd have thought I'd said conservatives are all child molesters who beat their wives. I was even told to back up my opinion of her with fact lol

Well, to be honest, while I disagree with her on the way she spins some items, she rarely says anything that's totally off the deep end. Some of the people she links to, or supports (i.e. Bachman & Beck) are a bit out there. . . it's her commentors who are rather abusive.

What really amazes me, is she has a couple of dedicated liberal commentors who weather the abuse there daily, and have for months upon months. They must enjoy getting a rise out of the folks there, or I don't know why they'd put up with it. . .

125 tradewind  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:04:37pm

LMAO...
Sick of the snoops?
[Link: www.theonion.com...]

126 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:05:00pm

re: #123 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Don't be Volga.

127 Diego  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:05:29pm

re: #124 Yashmak

Personally, I couldn't take it. I find it difficult enough here! :P

128 The Other Les  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:05:32pm

re: #109 buzzsawmonkey

Kind of sad that these folks don't even know the name of their own show. "The Rocky Horror Show" was the name of the stage production. "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" is the name of the movie.

You're not getting it. Are you?

It's not a proper stage production. It's a screening of the film with a bunch of amateurs acting out the parts on the stage in front of the screen.

Think of it as visual karaoke.

129 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:05:45pm

re: #126 snowcrash

Well, don't Bug me.

130 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:05:53pm

re: #126 snowcrash

Don't be Volga.

(*protesting*) Boat, man, I can't help it!

131 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:06:02pm

re: #123 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Heh, I posted that just for the Elbe of it.

Donau about that. But Main concern is the slow Weser.

132 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:06:04pm
133 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:06:30pm

re: #107 Charles

Quote:

Classy!

NTTAWWT

You can borrow some of my grandkids if you feel the need. I have babies to spare.

134 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:06:57pm

re: #118 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Can you actually see them Rhine their little hearts out?

Po little things.

135 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:07:15pm

re: #120 snowcrash

Glad you got through. Hi Cal! My computer problems occur when the threads get to about 1100 comments.

Hi {snowcrash}, the connection seems back to normal.
Hopefully !

136 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:07:22pm
137 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:07:29pm

re: #104 Diego

Not surprising. Earlier today I said (here) that I think Malkin is a nut and you'd have thought I'd said conservatives are all child molesters who beat their wives. I was even told to back up my opinion of her with fact lol

Yea, I know. Laughing out loud right now. It's really strange how people on this blog will assume that if you have an opinion, that you will have some facts to back up your opinion.

Especially if you come along and suggest that you want a conversation. I mean, really, hehehehehe... what did they expect me to do, really mean it when I said that?

Funny how that works. You know what I tell them? I tell them to stop raging and whining and quibbling. Works every time.

138 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:07:32pm

The late great Rick James once said "Cocaine is A Helluva Drug"
If you need proof, watch Whitney Houston's "comeback" concert.

139 MilkOfMalfeasance  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:08:31pm

Gorgeous video.

140 Killian Bundy  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:09:11pm

Swedish dad in bid for breast milk

Swedish father Ragnar Bengtsson, 26, has entered into an experiment that he hopes will help him breastfeed his future children.

"Anything that doesn't do any harm is worth trying out. And if it works it could prove very important for men's ability to get much closer to their children at an early stage," Bengtsson told The Local.

His efforts are to be documented by Swedish TV8, with the first instalment scheduled to air at 9pm on Wednesday on the Aschberg show. Bengtsson also maintains a blog on the station's website, the title of which translates as: 'The Milkman - One Drop at a Time'.

/WTF?

141 Diego  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:10:09pm

re: #140 Killian Bundy

Boy! Just think of the stretch marks! :O

142 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:10:27pm

re: #140 Killian Bundy

Swedish dad in bid for breast milk

/WTF?

Major WTF-moment.

/That must tickle like hell!

143 Joshua Cohen  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:10:28pm

BTW:
Spanish paper calls Holocaust denier Irving 'expert' on WWII
'El Monde' article will appear a day after interview with Yad Vashem chairman; Sweden's 'Aftonbladet' organ-snatching story wins praise from Syria.

Source: jpost

144 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:10:47pm

re: #140 Killian Bundy

Swedish dad in bid for breast milk

/WTF?

Surely it's for titillation only.

145 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:10:51pm

re: #132 buzzsawmonkey

I went to a couple of midnight showings of the film, back when that was a cultural phenomenon.

It was interesting to see how the film was a sex-surrogate for a number of kids on the cusp of experimentation. Interestingly, while some few of the boys would dress in drag as one of the female characters, it was very rare to see one who would dress as the bisexual character Frank N Furter; those wearing that costume were usually women. It seemed that while it was "OK" to engage in outright cross-dressing, as a goof, dressing as the one male character who overtly liked other males was too threatening.

And of course, now, it's nothing, everyone wants to do Frank at the movie (slash) play acting midnight showings.

My Frank, in the stage show, was the assistant dance captain of the original Broadway production of "A Chorus Line" and he was also the dance captain for many incarnations of the years and years of road shows and revivals.

For a matter of fact, I think he's on the current revival tour that was out a few years ago.

146 UFO TOFU  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:10:56pm

re: #140 Killian Bundy

Man, I just cannot bring myself to click on that link.

147 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:10:59pm

re: #131 callahan23

Donau about that. But Main concern is the slow Weser.

I'm about to exhaust my knowledge of European rivers, so at these Thames, I wanna beg for Mersey.

/I'm just Seine

148 Killian Bundy  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:11:44pm

re: #146 UFO TOFU

Man, I just cannot bring myself to click on that link.

/yeah, there's a picture

149 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:11:44pm

Good grief. It's been one hate mail after another today. Seven so far.

150 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:11:51pm

re: #143 Joshua Cohen

BTW:
Spanish paper calls Holocaust denier Irving 'expert' on WWII

The sad truth is he was an expert on the subject, then he went over to the dark side.

151 Diego  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:12:26pm

re: #149 Charles

You should post them, it'd be entertaining.

152 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:12:39pm

re: #140 Killian Bundy

Swedish dad in bid for breast milk

/WTF?

There is an old rabbinic tale about a man whose wife passed away, and he prayed for a miracle to keep their baby from starving. His prayer was answered and he grew breasts to suckle the baby. The rabbis argued: He must have been a great saint in order for such a miracle to happen to him! Others said: He must have been a great sinner in order to be turned into a freak, a saint would have found a job or received money to hire a wet nurse.

153 The Other Les  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:12:42pm

re: #117 AuntAcid

I asked for TRHPS at a video store. The kid told me to look in the "horror" section.

I mentioned to the manager of the Pizza Hut I used to work at the that I was going to the RHPS and he start talking to me about real horror movies. I had to repeatedly explain to him that I avoid such films.

154 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:12:50pm

re: #148 Killian Bundy
Weird.

155 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:13:01pm

re: #147 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'm about to exhaust my knowledge of European rivers, so at these Thames, I wanna beg for Mersey.

/I'm just Seine

You've hit a Waal, have you?

156 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:13:25pm

re: #147 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'm about to exhaust my knowledge of European rivers, so at these Thames, I wanna beg for Mersey.

/I'm just Seine

Just Rhone with it.

157 The Other Les  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:13:43pm

re: #121 Walter L. Newton

It's in the romance section.

Where did they put Shock Treatment?

158 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:13:53pm

re: #155 calcajun

You've hit a Waal, have you?

Maas't have.

159 Diego  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:14:14pm

re: #157 The Other Les

Where did they put Shock Treatment?

Thriller? :P

160 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:14:39pm

re: #157 The Other Les

Where did they put Shock Treatment?

Educational material. (by the way, a really bad movie. not even "good" bad, just "bad" bad)

161 Killian Bundy  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:14:57pm

Former Rep. Traficant Leaves Prison After Seven Years

James A. Traficant, the Ohio Democrat who was expelled from Congress after being found guilty of bribery and racketeering, walked out of prison in Minnesota on Wednesday, after serving seven years behind bars.

Traficant, 68, an eccentric former sheriff, hailed a taxi and did not answer reporters' questions as he left the prison alone. He wore a T-shirt, shorts and knee-high white socks and carried some of his belongings in a plastic bag.

/Hannity's booking agent is probably calling

162 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:15:34pm

re: #158 callahan23

Maas't have.

Coming up with these puns Rapido, eh?

163 Summer Seale  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:15:47pm

Yea I saw this shot a while back. It really is gorgeous.

164 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:15:50pm

re: #153 The Other Les

I mentioned to the manager of the Pizza Hut I used to work at the that I was going to the RHPS and he start talking to me about real horror movies. I had to repeatedly explain to him that I avoid such films.

Really? I avoid:

Getting lost while hiking while scantily clad...
Checking out noises in the basement/attic/shed with a candle (in the 21st century?)...
Deciding it would be fun to camp in an abandoned house which was once the site of some grisly murders...
Doing anything in a cemetary at night...
Anyplace with large, ugly men with masks on who run 70mph...

165 Joshua Cohen  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:15:56pm

And someone remembers the Russian ship that was missing and then found?

The newest rumor is that the Israelis are the masterminds behind the whole story...

Yeah sure - we can not build our own rockets...

166 tradewind  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:16:41pm

re: #149 Charles

Where do they come from? Not from lizards?(please?)
Is this fallout from being linked? If so, I can only imagine the nut cases that will end up writing, because who knows what weird sites end up with the original post...

167 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:16:58pm

re: #165 Joshua Cohen

And someone remembers the Russian ship that was missing and then found?

The newest rumor is that the Israelis are the masterminds behind the whole story...

Yeah sure - we can not build our own rockets...

Of course Israelis are behind it. Gotta give the Templars a break some time.

168 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:17:30pm
169 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:17:47pm

re: #167 EmmmieG

Of course Israelis are behind it. Gotta give the Templars a break some time.

and the Trilateralists and Bilderbergs are vacationing together.

170 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:18:06pm

re: #165 Joshua Cohen

And someone remembers the Russian ship that was missing and then found?

The newest rumor is that the Israelis are the masterminds behind the whole story...

Yeah sure - we can not build our own rockets...

But you do make a mean corned beef sammich!

//

171 The Other Les  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:18:29pm

re: #132 buzzsawmonkey

After an eleven hour workday where I had to deliver pizza under the worst weather conditions that I've ever worked under. I had to tell the shift manager (an idiot) that I could no longer safely operate a motor vehicle. (the idiot wanted me to continue to make deliveries) My landlady drove me to the theater for that night's showing of RHPS. I caught myself singing along with Frank, off key.

172 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:18:50pm

re: #104 Diego

Not surprising. Earlier today I said (here) that I think Malkin is a nut and you'd have thought I'd said conservatives are all child molesters who beat their wives. I was even told to back up my opinion of her with fact lol

Diego - my recollection of that incident is that it started here, when you claimed Obama had nothing to do with the Brazil offshore drilling deal, that it was a "wing-nut" misconception. Somebody linked to a story Malkin had about it, you dismissed the story because it was at Malkin's blog, but the story is NOT untrue, the administration was involved in the Brazil offshore drilling thing.

People were upset at you dismissing the veracity of the story, not because you dissed Malkin. Lots of folks here, myself included, aren't real fond of Malkin.

173 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:19:16pm

re: #164 EmmmieG

Really? I avoid:

Getting lost while hiking while scantily clad...
Checking out noises in the basement/attic/shed with a candle (in the 21st century?)...
Deciding it would be fun to camp in an abandoned house which was once the site of some grisly murders...
Doing anything in a cemetary at night...
Anyplace with large, ugly men with masks on who run 70mph WITH CHAINSAWS FOR HANDS...

FTFY

174 Joshua Cohen  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:19:20pm

re: #167 EmmmieG

Of course Israelis are behind it. Gotta give the Templars a break some time.

And the last visit by an Israeli official to Russia was to pay them to keep silence about it...

With all the American taxpayer and German guilt money...

175 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:19:23pm
176 The Other Les  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:19:51pm

re: #136 buzzsawmonkey

I got the impression from the website that it was an actual troupe doing a production of the stage show, not the screening/dressup phenomenon.

My error.

Okay.

They probably could do it for real.

177 Diego  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:20:21pm

re: #172 reine.de.tout

you dismissed the story because it was at Malkin's blog

I didn't actually, I just dismissed Malkin. I said I was thinking about a different issue.

178 UFO TOFU  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:20:29pm

re: #164 EmmmieG

Really? I avoid:
Getting lost while hiking while scantily clad...


I can, um, help keep you from getting lost when you're so inclined!

Later folks.

179 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:20:50pm

re: #175 buzzsawmonkey

re: #164 EmmmieG

There are a number of very good horror movies, most of them older. The advent of the slasher film--Halloween was one of the first--which are basically grisly slicefests in which it is a guarantee that anyone who has sex is brutally punished ruined the genre.

What category would you put Hitchcock in?

180 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:21:25pm

IMO, the MSM's smearing of Sarah Palin is directly proportional to their fear of her. Read the latest bizarre hitjob from AP. Also hearsay, vicious gossip.

Levi Johnston: Palin wanted to adopt grandchild


ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Levi Johnston, the father of Sarah Palin's grandchild, said the former Republican vice presidential candidate wanted to adopt his child so that people wouldn't know her 17-year-old daughter was pregnant. In an interview with Vanity Fair, Johnston said Palin had a plan to deal with Bristol's pregnancy.
"Sarah kept mentioning this plan. She was nagging — she wouldn't give it up. She would say, 'So, are you gonna let me adopt him?' We both kept telling her we were definitely not going to let her adopt the baby. I think Sarah wanted to make Bristol look good, and she didn't want people to know that her 17-year-old daughter was going to have a kid," Johnston told the magazine for its October edition, which goes on sale Saturday. Excerpts of the interview were posted Wednesday on the magazine's Web site.
Meghan Stapleton, Palin's spokeswoman, did not immediately respond to request for comment, but has previously discounted Johnston's allegations. Palin has been keeping a low profile since she resigned on July 26 with more than a year left in her first term.
A week after Republican presidential candidate John McCain named Palin as his running mate, the campaign issued a statement that her unwed daughter was pregnant. It also said Bristol, now 18, and the young man would marry.
Johnston, 19, lived in the house for two months awaiting the birth of the baby, Tripp, who was born in December. The couple called off the wedding shortly after their son's birth.


Since then, Johnston has complained in national interviews that the Palins limited his access to the boy. He's also said he's pursuing a career as an actor or model.
Johnston said the Palin home in Wasilla was not what most people would think.
"The Palin house was much different from what many people expect of a normal family, even before she was nominated for vice president. There wasn't much parenting in that house. Sarah doesn't cook, Todd doesn't cook — the kids would do it all themselves," Johnson told Vanity Fair.
Palin has four other children. The youngest, Trig, is 1 year old.
Johnston also repeated claims that Palin said she wanted to quit and write a book or host a TV show.
When Palin returned to Alaska following McCain's unsuccessful run for president, she was different, Johnston said.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

181 The Other Les  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:21:31pm

re: #149 Charles

Good grief. It's been one hate mail after another today. Seven so far.

Relex. Do the Time Warp again.

182 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:21:40pm
183 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:21:53pm

re: #79 Charles

Allahpundit linked to my Freak-Out of the Day post -- and his commenters proceeded to viciously attack both me and him, some of them calling for AP to be thrown off Hot Air.

I don't understand people who want to hang out at a blog where they hold the blog owner in such contempt.

184 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:22:15pm

re: #179 EmmmieG

What category would you put Hitchcock in?

Suspense and dramatic thrillers. Not true horror.

185 The Other Les  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:22:53pm

re: #159 Diego

Thriller? :P

Sort of a sequel to RHPS.

186 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:23:11pm
187 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:23:55pm

re: #184 calcajun

Suspense and dramatic thrillers. Not true horror.

Very good. Thriller. I couldn't come up with the word, but I knew it wasn't horror. I suppose classic horror would be Vincent Price?

188 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:24:13pm

re: #40 UFO TOFU

Oh, I hope your fires are done!
PBJ is near the Station Fire, but safe as of early this AM. Full containment not expected until 9/15 at the earliest. It sounds like they're going to be able to save Mt. Wilson's observatory & antennas too!

189 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:24:29pm

re: #186 buzzsawmonkey

Suspense/horror. Frenzy is a terrifying film, though it has almost no blood in it. The people who really knew how to do horror did not need buckets of stage blood; they knew how to get inside your mind.

The movie "The Innocents" still gives me the creeps.

190 Joshua Cohen  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:24:49pm

And the sad thing about all this: there are people out there believing it!

REALLY!

And I am just frecking happy that there have been no Quassams today...

191 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:24:51pm

re: #183 Sharmuta

Some of them want AP kicked off Hot Air, so they post angry comments.

192 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:24:55pm

re: #157 The Other Les

Where did they put Shock Treatment?

In the Bomb shelter.

193 The Other Les  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:25:09pm

re: #160 Walter L. Newton

Educational material. (by the way, a really bad movie. not even "good" bad, just "bad" bad)

I borrowed a little bit of it for a fan-fiction thing I wrote;

The Lone Sniper was gagged and bound up in a canvas straitjacket, strapped into a wheelchair which was placed in the center of a circular jail cell, which in turn was centered in a white padded room. Through the walls of the room he could hear a mob repeatedly chanting, "Ditzie, Ditzie, we love Ditzie!"

Ditzie burst into the room through the door, she wore a cute black dress with a cute black hat.

"I just wanted to tell you how fabulous I am!" she shouted.

The Lone Sniper woke up screaming.

He was still in Frankie's asteroid base. Perhaps the nightmare was caused by something he ate. Henceforth, the Lone Sniper would avoid the meat loaf at dinner.

194 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:25:13pm

re: #186 buzzsawmonkey

Suspense/horror. Frenzy is a terrifying film, though it has almost no blood in it. The people who really knew how to do horror did not need buckets of stage blood; they knew how to get inside your mind.

Hitchcock sure got inside mine when he killed off Kim Novak at the end of Vertigo. I wanted to smash the TV with the coffee table.

/heh

195 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:25:46pm

re: #183 Sharmuta

I don't understand people who want to hang out at a blog where they hold the blog owner in such contempt.

I went and looked at some of those comments. It looks like a sizable number of people will be keeping their kids home - not a good plan, imo.

I hope I didn't sound like that on the earlier thread, and maybe I did a bit. I am always aware of my kid's lesson plans and school activities, and when there is something I feel like I need to question or look at more carefully, I do it.

I see no reason NOT to do it with this speech just because it's the President.

196 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:25:56pm

re: #189 calcajun

The movie "The Innocents" still gives me the creeps.

Based on the book Turn of the Screw. It's also a stage play.

197 Gus  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:26:36pm

Charles,

Here's what I found so far regarding the Bush speech to students:

Article: A Visit of Presidential Proportions' Bush to Address Nation's Students From Deal Junior High in NW

The Washington Post; October 1, 1991 ; Lynda Richardson; 689 words ...Alice Deal Junior High School got the once- and twice-over from a White House security...nation's students on live television from an American history classroom at Deal Junior High, in the Tenleytown neighborhood of upper Northwest Washington...

Also mentioned in the Bush Library:

Back to School Address - Alice Deal Jr. High 10/1/91 [OA 8329] [1]

198 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:26:36pm

re: #191 Danny

Some of them want AP kicked off Hot Air, so they post angry comments.

Didn't you and I speak about contempt for bloggers already today?

199 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:27:02pm

re: #194 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hitchcock sure got inside mine when he killed off Kim Novak at the end of Vertigo. I wanted to smash the TV with the coffee table.

/heh

Ah, Jimmy Stewart gets girls and chases her out of bell tower.


"Fins! Fins! I never liked her. She didn't bathe!" Harvey Korman.

200 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:27:06pm
201 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:27:31pm

re: #198 Sharmuta

Yes. Is there a daily limit? :-)

202 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:27:46pm

re: #196 Walter L. Newton

I know. But Deborah Kerr had me going as to whether she was mad or if the kids were possessed.

203 Diego  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:28:22pm

re: #195 reine.de.tout

a sizable number of people will be keeping their kids home

Careful, Obama will be making a list of the children who don't attend and sending his brownshirts to visit their parents!!!112

/

204 sagehen  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:28:27pm

re: #180 ted

IMO, the MSM's smearing of Sarah Palin is directly proportional to their fear of her. Read the latest bizarre hitjob from AP. Also hearsay, vicious gossip.

Levi Johnston: Palin wanted to adopt grandchild

ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Levi Johnston, the father of Sarah Palin's grandchild, said the former Republican vice presidential candidate wanted to adopt his child so that people wouldn't know her 17-year-old daughter was pregnant. In an interview with...


Levi's direct description of conversations he personally took part in is not hearsay.

205 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:28:54pm

re: #200 buzzsawmonkey

Hitchcock seemed to enjoy dropping people from a great height. He did it in Vertigo, in Saboteur, in North by Northwest, and--to a lesser extent--in Rear Window.

I love Rear Window. I get nervous and tense every time I see it, and I know how it's gonna end.

206 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:29:03pm

re: #200 buzzsawmonkey

Hitchcock seemed to enjoy dropping people from a great height. He did it in Vertigo, in Saboteur, in North by Northwest, and--to a lesser extent--in Rear Window.

Norman Lloyd in "Saboteur", too.
Jimmy Stewart in "Rear Window"

207 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:29:08pm

re: #201 Danny

Nope. And in keeping with the fish thread theme: there are plenty of fish in the sea. No reason to hang in a fish school you don't like, you know?

208 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:29:42pm

re: #204 sagehen

Levi's direct description of conversations he personally took part in is not hearsay.

No, but if the father of my teenage daughter's baby was like him, I'd try to adopt the kid, too.

He's a creep.

209 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:29:47pm
210 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:30:24pm

re: #202 calcajun

I know. But Deborah Kerr had me going as to whether she was mad or if the kids were possessed.

The play and the book deal more with the "possible" incestous relationship with the two kids.

211 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:30:29pm

re: #200 buzzsawmonkey

Hitchcock seemed to enjoy dropping people from a great height. He did it in Vertigo, in Saboteur, in North by Northwest, and--to a lesser extent--in Rear Window.

and Martin Balsam going down the stairs...

212 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:30:35pm

re: #200 buzzsawmonkey

Hitchcock seemed to enjoy dropping people from a great height. He did it in Vertigo, in Saboteur, in North by Northwest, and--to a lesser extent--in Rear Window.

Haven't seen #'s 2 & 4.

He also had the cat burglar dangling from the precipice (and Grant's hand) in To Catch a Thief.

/he knew how to heighten the audience's anxiety

213 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:30:45pm
214 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:31:17pm

re: #209 buzzsawmonkey

I had those in the post.

Sorry--dyslexia attack. Tath maeks em dam.

215 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:31:51pm

re: #209 buzzsawmonkey

I had those in the post.

Barney Frank in Rear View

216 MilkOfMalfeasance  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:32:36pm

re: #107 Charles

Oh the irony. "2Brave2Bscared" posting ANNOYMOUS insults in an open thread. So brave...

217 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:32:52pm

re: #215 Walter L. Newton

ew. If you take a page from Barney's life, he'll just hire another.

218 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:32:57pm
219 Diego  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:33:01pm

re: #215 Walter L. Newton

Barney Frank in Rear View

Oh look. A gay joke. Those never get old do they?

220 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:33:16pm
221 brookly red  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:33:41pm

re: #215 Walter L. Newton

Barney Frank in Rear View

great! I just log on & this is the first thing I read...

222 sagehen  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:33:54pm

re: #208 EmmmieG

No, but if the father of my teenage daughter's baby was like him, I'd try to adopt the kid, too.

He's a creep.


Not a great catch, but there's other fish in the sea.
(I was trying for the oblique semi-pun triple, but couldn't think how to work Bristol Bay into the sentence...)

223 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:34:10pm

re: #214 calcajun

Sorry--dyslexia attack. Tath maeks em dam.

Buzz's reply was an example of excellent post facto.

224 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:34:21pm

re: #186 buzzsawmonkey

Suspense/horror. Frenzy is a terrifying film, though it has almost no blood in it. The people who really knew how to do horror did not need buckets of stage blood; they knew how to get inside your mind.

Yes, but most went to bed knowing none of what was in those stories could ever happen to us. They were bad people far far away. That was my experience.

Today, it seems, children don't now the difference.

225 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:34:31pm

re: #223 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Quite.

226 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:35:15pm

re: #204 sagehen

Levi's direct description of conversations he personally took part in is not hearsay.

I would believe Levi as much as Paulie Walnuts.

227 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:35:29pm

re: #215 Walter L. Newton

Of all th' CHEEK!
*flounce off*

/... :D ... good one, Walter

228 debutaunt  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:35:58pm

re: #161 Killian Bundy

Former Rep. Traficant Leaves Prison After Seven Years


/Hannity's booking agent is probably calling

I hope his toupee had to serve some extra time, because it was really bad.

229 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:36:01pm

re: #189 calcajun

The movie "The Innocents" still gives me the creeps.

Because it looked into the soul of evil people with an agenda?

230 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:36:23pm

re: #225 calcajun

Quite.

:D ... couldn't resist that, sorry

231 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:36:58pm

re: #229 midwestgak

Because it looked into the soul of evil people with an agenda?

Yes-- must be on guard against repressed English governesses.

232 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:38:11pm

re: #226 ted

I would believe Levi as much as Paulie Walnuts.

Any one who has his own named tattooed on his arm is either a narcissist, or has some serious memory issues.

233 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:38:37pm
234 Diego  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:38:58pm

re: #232 calcajun

And/or comes from the meth capital of the country..

235 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:39:13pm
236 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:39:47pm

re: #207 Sharmuta

Nope. And in keeping with the fish thread theme: there are plenty of fish in the sea. No reason to hang in a fish school you don't like, you know?

OMG Sharm..I just cracked 2 ribs falling on the floor laughing..My old bud from College just called me and told me his next big thing was to start a P0rn site..Something about paying 9.99 to watch nasty maids clean houses on the Internet live..
I'm having trouble stop laughing..I've got to call my wife at work...Nastymaids P0rn site...I swear if he pulls up in a Bentley in 6 months I'm going to be really pissed off... Paulie has had a million get rich projects..This one may work..Laughing...The ribs really hurt this time

237 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:39:55pm

re: #232 calcajun

Any one who has his own named tattooed on his arm is either a narcissist, or has some serious memory issues.

Exactly...Levi has some serious issues.

238 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:40:08pm

re: #234 Diego

And/or comes from the meth capital of the country..

a "cracker" in both senses of the word.

239 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:40:09pm

re: #233 buzzsawmonkey

I thought the Gover Ness Monster was a myth.

Whether it is or not, the Scots sure have a Loch on it.

240 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:40:14pm

re: #219 Diego

Oh look. A gay joke. Those never get old do they?

Haakondahl decided I'm gay yesterday. Heh. And a Marxist. And bitter. And that I live in a house full of books.

He got the books part right.

241 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:40:32pm

re: #231 calcajun

Yes-- must be on guard against repressed English governesses.

Yipes. I was thinking of another Hitchcock thriller. The one where two men hid their victim in a chest and then guests come to visit. Can't recall the name.

242 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:41:07pm

re: #233 buzzsawmonkey

I thought the Gover Ness Monster was a myth.

No. She is still in business, but her rates have gone up.

243 Diego  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:41:18pm

re: #240 Cato the Elder

lol

244 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:41:20pm

Barney Frank is gay?

245 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:41:37pm
246 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:41:55pm

re: #236 HoosierHoops

OMG Sharm..I just cracked 2 ribs falling on the floor laughing..My old bud from College just called me and told me his next big thing was to start a P0rn site..Something about paying 9.99 to watch nasty maids clean houses on the Internet live..
I'm having trouble stop laughing..I've got to call my wife at work...Nastymaids P0rn site...I swear if he pulls up in a Bentley in 6 months I'm going to be really pissed off... Paulie has had a million get rich projects..This one may work..Laughing...The ribs really hurt this time

Link please...My apartment is dirty.

247 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:41:59pm

re: #226 ted

I would believe Levi as much as Paulie Walnuts.

A Soprano fan? Only a Soprano fan would recognize that name. heh.

248 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:42:22pm

re: #219 Diego

Oh look. A gay joke. Those never get old do they?

Nope. You go with what your audience wants.

249 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:42:52pm

re: #244 Shug

Barney Frank is gay?

Ur kidding, right?

250 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:43:22pm

re: #240 Cato the Elder

Haakondahl decided I'm gay yesterday. Heh. And a Marxist. And bitter. And that I live in a house full of books.

He got the books part right.

But what would be wrong with being bitter and gay? The Marxist part I might have an issue with...

---

But honestly all of you humanities types with your Joyce and Ovid quoting all over the place are a little suspect of that too... Everyone knows that if you ain't a priest and yer speakin' Latin you're one of them thar commies!

///

251 ted  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:43:25pm

re: #247 midwestgak

A Soprano fan? Only a Soprano fan would recognize that name. heh.

Big Time.

252 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:43:39pm

re: #240 Cato the Elder

Haakondahl decided I'm gay yesterday. Heh. And a Marxist. And bitter. And that I live in a house full of books.

He got the books part right.

We have over 1500 books here, some rooms are wall to wall bookshelves. Some of the books are gay. And we have a lot of Marxist material, actually tons of it.

So what does that make me?

253 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:43:50pm

re: #240 Cato the Elder

Haakondahl decided I'm gay yesterday. Heh. And a Marxist. And bitter. And that I live in a house full of books.

He got the books part right.

"The problem with having long hair is that people might think you’re a Commie fag junkie. Really? What would a Commie fag junkie sound like? 'Workerth of the world unite.'"-- George Carlin

254 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:43:57pm

re: #248 Walter L. Newton

Nope. You go with what your audience wants.

And just how do you find that out?
By running a PEW! poll?

/:D

255 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:44:07pm

re: #236 HoosierHoops

OMG Sharm..I just cracked 2 ribs falling on the floor laughing..My old bud from College just called me and told me his next big thing was to start a P0rn site..Something about paying 9.99 to watch nasty maids clean houses on the Internet live..
I'm having trouble stop laughing..I've got to call my wife at work...Nastymaids P0rn site...I swear if he pulls up in a Bentley in 6 months I'm going to be really pissed off... Paulie has had a million get rich projects..This one may work..Laughing...The ribs really hurt this time

Is he hiring?

/Kidding! Maybe...

256 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:44:11pm

re: #244 Shug

Yep.

257 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:44:32pm

re: #252 Walter L. Newton

We have over 1500 books here, some rooms are wall to wall bookshelves. Some of the books are gay. And we have a lot of Marxist material, actually tons of it.

So what does that make me?

Yeah but those are comic books :)

Said with a smile, meant as a joke.

258 debutaunt  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:44:50pm

re: #205 reine.de.tout

I love Rear Window. I get nervous and tense every time I see it, and I know how it's gonna end.

I love the scene when Grace is in the other apartment and she holds her hand behind her back with the wedding ring and he sees her point at it! Nooo!

259 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:45:11pm

re: #240 Cato the Elder

Haakondahl decided I'm gay yesterday. Heh. And a Marxist. And bitter. And that I live in a house full of books.

He got the books part right.

uh-oh.
I've got a house-full of books too.
Well, they're actually mostly in the dining room. Which we can't use for actual dining because of the books.
I'm in a heap o' trouble.

260 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:45:18pm

re: #251 ted

Big Time.

Long term parking.

261 Aye Pod  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:45:29pm

Evening/whatever folks:)

Glastonbury festival 2000 - The Chemical Brothers - The Private Psychedelic Reel

262 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:45:54pm

I have a house full of books, and one of them is yours!

re: #259 reine.de.tout

uh-oh.
I've got a house-full of books too.
Well, they're actually mostly in the dining room. Which we can't use for actual dining because of the books.
I'm in a heap o' trouble.

263 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:46:02pm

re: #236 HoosierHoops

OMG Sharm..I just cracked 2 ribs falling on the floor laughing..My old bud from College just called me and told me his next big thing was to start a P0rn site..Something about paying 9.99 to watch nasty maids clean houses on the Internet live..
I'm having trouble stop laughing..I've got to call my wife at work...Nastymaids P0rn site...I swear if he pulls up in a Bentley in 6 months I'm going to be really pissed off... Paulie has had a million get rich projects..This one may work..Laughing...The ribs really hurt this time

Your friend might have a good idea there, kinkiness factor is high on that business plan.

264 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:46:03pm

re: #258 debutaunt

I love the scene when Grace is in the other apartment and she holds her hand behind her back with the wedding ring and he sees her point at it! Nooo!

Great scene.
I love the whole movie, all in that one room, but it never drags or gets boring. It's just beautifully done.

265 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:46:07pm
266 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:46:14pm

re: #261 Jimmah

Evening/whatever folks:)

Glastonbury festival 2000 - The Chemical Brothers - The Private Psychedelic Reel


[Video]

Dude, hook me up with some Orbital and you become legend in my books.

267 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:46:48pm

re: #257 LudwigVanQuixote

Yeah but those are comic books :)

Said with a smile, meant as a joke.

We do have have over 40 books in the Hebrew/Torah study section.

268 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:47:08pm

re: #262 Shug

I have a house full of books, and one of them is yours!

ha!
It's the Lizards' Cookbook - not mine! Lots of folks worked on that, contributed to it.

And a new one is in the works, I BELIEVE, just not sure how quickly it will be finished, given that the two folks with the heaviest load actually work for a living, too.

269 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:47:15pm

re: #265 buzzsawmonkey

An ear full of music
And a house full of books
A soul full of rhythm
Man, I get funny looks.

So, what's in your pants that causes the funny looks?

270 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:47:22pm

re: #267 Walter L. Newton

We do have have over 40 books in the Hebrew/Torah study section.

Very cool. Peace.

271 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:48:03pm
272 debutaunt  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:48:21pm

re: #241 midwestgak

Yipes. I was thinking of another Hitchcock thriller. The one where two men hid their victim in a chest and then guests come to visit. Can't recall the name.

Rope.

273 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:49:28pm

re: #272 debutaunt

Rope.

Jimmy Stewart and who else?

274 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:49:35pm

re: #250 LudwigVanQuixote

But what would be wrong with being bitter and gay? The Marxist part I might have an issue with...

---

But honestly all of you humanities types with your Joyce and Ovid quoting all over the place are a little suspect of that too... Everyone knows that if you ain't a priest and yer speakin' Latin you're one of them thar commies!

///

Nothing wrong with being gay. But the last thing I am is bitter. In fact, I'm bitter's opposite - quite gay, in the old sense of the word.

Lapis Lazuli
by William Butler Yeats

I have heard that hysterical women say
They are sick of the palette and fiddle-bow.
Of poets that are always gay,
For everybody knows or else should know
That if nothing drastic is done
Aeroplane and Zeppelin will come out.
Pitch like King Billy bomb-balls in
Until the town lie beaten flat.

All perform their tragic play,
There struts Hamlet, there is Lear,
That's Ophelia, that Cordelia;
Yet they, should the last scene be there,
The great stage curtain about to drop,
If worthy their prominent part in the play,
Do not break up their lines to weep.
They know that Hamlet and Lear are gay;
Gaiety transfiguring all that dread.
All men have aimed at, found and lost;
Black out; Heaven blazing into the head:
Tragedy wrought to its uttermost.
Though Hamlet rambles and Lear rages,
And all the drop-scenes drop at once
Upon a hundred thousand stages,
It cannot grow by an inch or an ounce.

On their own feet they came, or On shipboard,'
Camel-back; horse-back, ass-back, mule-back,
Old civilisations put to the sword.
Then they and their wisdom went to rack:
No handiwork of Callimachus,
Who handled marble as if it were bronze,
Made draperies that seemed to rise
When sea-wind swept the corner, stands;
His long lamp-chimney shaped like the stem
Of a slender palm, stood but a day;
All things fall and are built again,
And those that build them again are gay.

Two Chinamen, behind them a third,
Are carved in lapis lazuli,
Over them flies a long-legged bird,
A symbol of longevity;
The third, doubtless a serving-man,
Carries a musical instrument.

Every discoloration of the stone,
Every accidental crack or dent,
Seems a water-course or an avalanche,
Or lofty slope where it still snows
Though doubtless plum or cherry-branch
Sweetens the little half-way house
Those Chinamen climb towards, and I
Delight to imagine them seated there;
There, on the mountain and the sky,
On all the tragic scene they stare.
One asks for mournful melodies;
Accomplished fingers begin to play.
Their eyes mid many wrinkles, their eyes,
Their ancient, glittering eyes, are gay.

275 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:50:06pm

re: #268 reine.de.tout

ha!
It's the Lizards' Cookbook - not mine! Lots of folks worked on that, contributed to it.

And a new one is in the works, I BELIEVE, just not sure how quickly it will be finished, given that the two folks with the heaviest load actually work for a living, too.


In a cookoff I'll bet on myself to win the lizard cooking title.
Problem is I don't use recipes. ever.

I racked my brain for a long time in deciding how to submit a recipe to you but in the end it was just impossible.
I add " enough" of whatever I want at the time and it's always just a bit different.
And the menu changes daily at cafe shug.

I'd never make it as a professional cook or a writer since I don't follow recipes ( except for baking where proportions do matter) but I do love to cook

276 Aye Pod  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:50:47pm

re: #266 LudwigVanQuixote

Dude, hook me up with some Orbital and you become legend in my books.

Can do, Ludwig!

Glastonbury festival 2002 - Orbital - Satan:

277 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:50:49pm

re: #274 Cato the Elder

Dude. "Lapis Lazuli" is one of my favorite poems.

278 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:50:54pm

A lot of you folks probably knew all of this, but this is the first I've heard of it. Somebody needs to e-mail this to David Duke, so we can watch his head explode:


Why Did People Become White?

Humans come in a rainbow of hues, from dark chocolate browns to nearly translucent whites.

This full kaleidoscope of skin colors was a relatively recent evolutionary development, according to biologists, occuring alongside the migration of modern humans out of Africa between 100,000 and 50,000 years ago.

The consensus among scientists has always been that lower levels of vitamin D at higher latitudes — where the sun is less intense — caused the lightening effect when modern humans, who began darker-skinned, first migrated north.

279 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:51:37pm

re: #277 Danny

Dude. "Lapis Lazuli" is one of my favorite poems.

I quite like the stone, too. Gave my mom a lapis bracelet once. Little flecks of gold in it.

280 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:51:48pm

re: #278 reine.de.tout

A lot of you folks probably knew all of this, but this is the first I've heard of it. Somebody needs to e-mail this to David Duke, so we can watch his head explode:

Why Did People Become White?

Uh- a few others besides Duke...

281 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:51:53pm

re: #273 midwestgak

Jimmy Stewart and who else?

Farley Granger? IIRC.

282 debutaunt  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:52:06pm

re: #273 midwestgak

Jimmy Stewart and who else?

Farley Granger and someone else.

283 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:52:11pm

re: #275 Shug

In a cookoff I'll bet on myself to win the lizard cooking title.
Problem is I don't use recipes. ever.

I racked my brain for a long time in deciding how to submit a recipe to you but in the end it was just impossible.
I add " enough" of whatever I want at the time and it's always just a bit different.
And the menu changes daily at cafe shug.

I'd never make it as a professional cook or a writer since I don't follow recipes ( except for baking where proportions do matter) but I do love to cook

You and the Roi. He just throws stuff together. Every once in a great while, there's a mistake. Usually, though, it's very good.

284 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:52:31pm

re: #280 Sharmuta

Uh- a few others besides Duke...

Sure, I was trying to get the thing posted.

285 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:54:21pm

re: #284 reine.de.tout

I know. Sorry.

286 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:54:35pm

back down to salt mine.

287 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:55:15pm

re: #278 reine.de.tout

A lot of you folks probably knew all of this, but this is the first I've heard of it. Somebody needs to e-mail this to David Duke, so we can watch his head explode:

Why Did People Become White?

Oh really? I thought it was an experiment by Yakub.

/need I?

288 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:55:33pm

re: #279 Cato the Elder

I quite like the stone, too. Gave my mom a lapis bracelet once. Little flecks of gold in it.

I have some here, a raw slab, haven't worked it yet, will work it when I get my lapidary equipment again.

289 tradewind  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:55:38pm

warning: Clicking the ' play' button will cause your email address to be autoforwarded to the WH Fishy Email Czar.
/JK/
Seriously...someone posted this aquarium a while ago, and I'm glad to see it again. Soo relaxing...thanks Charles...

290 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:55:46pm

re: #279 Cato the Elder

It sure is. I'd like to have a carving like the one the poem.

This is another of my favorite Yeats poems:

Long-Legged Fly
By William Butler Yeats

That civilization may not sink
Its great battle lost,
Quiet the dog, tether the pony
To a distant post.
Our master Caesar is in the tent
Where the maps are spread,
His eyes fixed upon nothing,
A hand under his head.

Like a long-legged fly upon the stream
His mind moves upon silence.

That the topless towers be burnt
And men recall that face,
Move most gently if move you must
In this lonely place.
She thinks, part woman, three parts a child,
That nobody looks; her feet
Practice a tinker shuffle
Picked up on the street.

Like a long-legged fly upon the stream
Her mind moves upon silence.

That girls at puberty may find
The first Adam in their thought,
Shut the door of the Pope's Chapel,
Keep those children out.
There on that scaffolding reclines
Michael Angelo.
With no more sound than the mice make
His hand moves to and fro.

Like a long-legged fly upon the stream
His mind moves upon silence.

291 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:56:26pm

Five minutes 'till beer!

292 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:56:29pm

re: #284 reine.de.tout

Sure, I was trying to get the thing posted.

Duke won't care. He's not dumb.
Changing his mind will be like changing the mind of a 9-11 truther.

but as a scientist I found that article interesting. It does make perfect sense.
From an adaptive perspective, lightening the skin was one way to go. I suppose if vitamin D retention by the body had predominated we'd all still be black.

or as Duke would say, we all started White and some devolved

293 Aye Pod  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:56:32pm

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

Wiping gays off the site-map…

… and burying your head in the silicon. That seems to be the point of a new “Halaal” search engine that blocks things Muslims apparently shouldn’t want to see or hear about.

The first thing I searched for was “gay” and of course I hit the Code Red - Level 3. I was informed:

Oops! Your search inquiry has a Haram level of 3 out of 3! I would like to advise you to change your search terms and try again.

Admittedly, I expected it to be more judgemental. But let’s call it an honest mistake. I’m not sure what the cyber equivalent of a stoning is - maybe some form of DOS attack - so I appreciate the generosity of the administrators in this regard.

“Wine” had a Haram level of 1 out of 3 - which means you’re given a ‘continue’ link “if you think the results are clean”. Neither beer nor cider, for some reason, were blocked. Scotch and brandy sailed right past too. Any theories? Is wine particularly dirty?

Dogs passed, but the poor little piggies get stuck with a level 1 block. So that makes homosexuals three times more dirty than pigs, I suppose. Bacon is not blocked at all, and nor is sodomy.

“Abortion” goes through. “Sex” doesn’t. “Prostitutes”? No problem.

Art. Music. Beatles. Marilyn Manson. All pass. So does Bible and Torah, though Karma Sutra throws up a level 2 ‘proceed with caution’.

So, apart from sex and gays, I couldn’t get the Halal Search Engine to block anything else outright. Even “adultery” only has a level 2 caution. I guess gays really must be - in the web developer’s view - the biggest threats to Islam.

If you want to try it out, go to [Link: www.imhalal.com...]

Incidentally, the form-submit is very badly implemented, so the back button doesn’t work. Google this ain’t.

294 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:56:34pm

re: #283 reine.de.tout

You and the Roi. He just throws stuff together. Every once in a great while, there's a mistake. Usually, though, it's very good.

There was a shower last night for my future daughter-in-law. It was in New York, so I couldn't be there, but I sent a binder of all my son's favorite recipes.

295 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:57:59pm

re: #291 Killgore Trout

Five minutes 'till beer!


I'm jealous.
what will it be tonight?
Still on the blue moon?

296 Bobblehead  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:58:08pm
297 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:58:13pm

re: #285 Sharmuta

I know. Sorry.

?
No sorry!
I just couldn't think of anyone at the moment. That was interesting, wasn't it?

298 Joshua Cohen  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:58:21pm

Did something really interesting happen?

I am talking about no far right wing idiot stuff...no czars...no health care death panels...no scorched earth things.

On TV are "Nazi Weeks" again...

299 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:58:28pm

re: #79 Charles

Allahpundit seems a decent guy. No doubt the tone of our civic discourse has deteriorated. I blame KOS and the moonbats.

300 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:59:29pm

re: #294 Alouette

There was a shower last night for my future daughter-in-law. It was in New York, so I couldn't be there, but I sent a binder of all my son's favorite recipes.

You are a great mom!
Here's my daughter's favorite "home-cooked" meal, written on a "favorites" list when she was in 1st grade -

tomato soup

and of course, she was talking about Campbell's tomato soup. I was some kind of embarrassed!

301 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:59:32pm

re: #295 Shug

I still have some blue moon. But I think I'll start with a Black Butte Porter.

302 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:59:47pm

re: #274 Cato the Elder

Their ancient, glittering eyes, are gay.

Don we now our gay apparel. Fa la la . . .

303 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 4:59:50pm

re: #290 Danny

I Love Yeats... I guess that makes me a commie...

Politics is my favorite poem of his.

304 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:00:05pm

re: #291 Killgore Trout

Five minutes 'till beer!

Why wait?

305 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:00:33pm

re: #298 Joshua Cohen

Did something really interesting happen?


I don't think so. News has been actually fairly dull lately.

306 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:00:48pm

re: #304 reine.de.tout

Discipline.

307 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:01:31pm

re: #301 Killgore Trout

I still have some blue moon. But I think I'll start with a Black Butte Porter.

Never heard of it so I checked it out. How's this for a review

Completely free of that disappointing wet-newspaper-in-the-mouth taste of lesser porters, it’s a vibrant, elastic brew that goes the distance with power, style and Lance Armstrong-like pacing.
David Gadd - Patterson's Beverage Journal, February 2007

now I'm really jealous sinec I'm at work until 0800 eastern

308 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:01:37pm

re: #299 quickjustice

Allahpundit seems a decent guy. No doubt the tone of our civic discourse has deteriorated. I blame KOS and the moonbats.

That's right. Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh had nothing to do with it.

309 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:01:38pm

re: #296 Bobblehead

Why Scottish men are so popular. LOL

There will be a population explosion in about nine months time in Glasgow.
;-)

310 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:01:54pm

re: #280 Sharmuta

Uh- a few others besides Duke...

I've often felt that part of why that crowd hates evolution so much is that the archeology and genetic record have humans originating in Africa with a much more tan complexion.

311 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:02:07pm

re: #292 Shug

Duke won't care. He's not dumb.
Changing his mind will be like changing the mind of a 9-11 truther.

but as a scientist I found that article interesting. It does make perfect sense.
From an adaptive perspective, lightening the skin was one way to go. I suppose if vitamin D retention by the body had predominated we'd all still be black.

or as Duke would say, we all started White and some devolved

I was thinking his head would 'splode if it appeared we all started out black to begin with LOL! I'm not at all sure he could take it. I would love to see his reaction to that.

312 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:03:06pm

re: #296 Bobblehead

Why Scottish men are so popular. LOL

That's because of the bow... Remembering the song...

313 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:03:10pm

re: #311 reine.de.tout

I was thinking his head would 'splode if it appeared we all started out black to begin with LOL! I'm not at all sure he could take it. I would love to see his reaction to that.


I'd like to see his head explode too.
Feces everywhere!

314 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:03:22pm

re: #306 Killgore Trout

Discipline.

oookaaay!

You see, I am of the belief that life is too short to begin with, and when dessert is available, I will always have dessert first, especially if it's chocolate ice cream.
Then I'll have dinner.

315 Joshua Cohen  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:03:39pm

re: #305 Killgore Trout

I don't think so. News has been actually fairly dull lately.

Not even a war the MSM is interested in? Or some hostage-taking?

Maybe something about the WONs favorite ice cream or coffee?

316 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:04:29pm

re: #294 Alouette

There was a shower last night for my future daughter-in-law. It was in New York, so I couldn't be there, but I sent a binder of all my son's favorite recipes.

Mazel Tov! Mazel Tov!

What a Simcha!

317 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:05:00pm

re: #308 Cato the Elder

For once, Cato, you and I are in complete agreement! Although I still think Coulter need more calories. She really is nothing but skin and bones.

318 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:05:40pm

re: #310 LudwigVanQuixote

I've often felt that part of why that crowd hates evolution so much is that the archeology and genetic record have humans originating in Africa with a much more tan complexion.

That's why some came up with the multiregional model- very popular with scientific racists.

319 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:05:57pm

re: #314 reine.de.tout

oookaaay!

You see, I am of the belief that life is too short to begin with, and when dessert is available, I will always have dessert first, especially if it's chocolate ice cream.
Then I'll have dinner.

Mousse au Chocolat. My all-time favorite dessert.
That would be my last meal if I could choose.

320 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:06:52pm

re: #317 quickjustice

For once, Cato, you and I are in complete agreement! Although I still think Coulter need more calories. She really is nothing but skin and bones.

Cato once referred to her as Ann Orexia. Perfect.

321 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:06:55pm

re: #318 Sharmuta

That's why some came up with the multiregional model- very popular with scientific racists.

Yep...

Is it ok if I hate, I mean really really hate David Duke?

322 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:07:01pm

re: #308 Cato the Elder

That's right. Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh had nothing to do with it.

The number of Republicans adopting moonbattery and using "the left did it for 8 years" as an excuse leads me to believe that the lefty moonbats are party if only indirectly responsible. Twiggy McAdamsApple and Rush are definitely not blameless though.

323 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:07:28pm

re: #321 LudwigVanQuixote

Yep...

Is it ok if I hate, I mean really really hate David Duke?

Yes, Ludwig- there is no shame in hating bigots. Quite the opposite.

324 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:07:47pm

re: #319 callahan23

Mousse au Chocolat. My all-time favorite dessert.
That would be my last meal if I could choose.

Twinkies and YooHoo, baby.

//

325 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:08:30pm

re: #321 LudwigVanQuixote

Yep...

Is it ok if I hate, I mean really really hate David Duke?

Perfectly ok.
Racists deserve all the hate.

326 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:08:40pm

re: #305 Killgore Trout

I don't think so. News has been actually fairly dull lately.

Good grief, how can you say news has been dull lately!
Obama's gonna talk to the kids!
There will be a massive sick-out at schools across the country!

Me, I'll just keep a watch on how those lesson plans play out.

327 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:08:45pm

re: #300 reine.de.tout

You are a great mom!
Here's my daughter's favorite "home-cooked" meal, written on a "favorites" list when she was in 1st grade -

tomato soup

and of course, she was talking about Campbell's tomato soup. I was some kind of embarrassed!

I taught all my kids (boys and girls) how to cook, by teaching each one how to make their favorite food, whether it was spaghetti & meatballs, macaroni & cheese, lasagna, chili, fried chicken, etc. That way, they would always be able to have their favorite food without depending on someone else to make it for them.

Of course they always liked it better when I made it. :)

328 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:09:09pm

re: #322 ArchangelMichael

Limbaugh prospers on controversy, and he's good at it! Ann's books still seem to be selling, so mission accomplished!

329 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:09:43pm

re: #310 LudwigVanQuixote

I've often felt that part of why that crowd hates evolution so much is that the archeology and genetic record have humans originating in Africa with a much more tan complexion.

Last night Mandy was linking to something unrelated to evolution and the term "African Diaspora" came up. The whole I couldn't help but think that "African Diaspora" is the entire human race not living in Africa from 100 kya or so.

330 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:09:51pm

re: #319 callahan23

Mousse au Chocolat. My all-time favorite dessert.
That would be my last meal if I could choose.

I usually crave a more solid chocolate experience than mousse provides.
I like chocolate ice cream with choco chips in it. Or crumbled up choco-chip cookies.

331 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:10:16pm

re: #320 reine.de.tout

Cato once referred to her as Ann Orexia. Perfect.

I thought judging people by their appearance was "out".

332 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:10:28pm

BTW, Ludwig- I agree completely. Some folks will go out of their way to distance themselves from Africa, even at the expense of distorting science. They either deny evolution all together, or adhere to a warped version of it, like the multi-regional theory. It's something I've looked into recently, and it's not pretty.

333 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:10:31pm

re: #323 Sharmuta

Yes, Ludwig- there is no shame in hating bigots. Quite the opposite.

You probably wouldn't surprised what Torah has to say about hating anyone. As in it is a no-no.

But yeah,

I hate Illinois Nazis.

334 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:11:24pm

re: #331 OldLineTexan

I thought judging people by their appearance was "out".

OOPs.
Did I make a faux pas?

335 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:11:40pm

re: #330 reine.de.tout

I usually crave a more solid chocolate experience than mousse provides.
I like chocolate ice cream with choco chips in it. Or crumbled up choco-chip cookies.

Some Mousse actually has some fine chocolate chips in it.
We are very close in our fav dessert. ;-)

336 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:11:51pm

re: #333 LudwigVanQuixote

Well- as a Christian, I'm not supposed to hate either. It's not what Jesus told us to do, but we are humans. If I'm going to hate, I'd rather it was at those who have earned it.

337 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:12:35pm
338 Joshua Cohen  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:13:18pm

I go negotiating with the fridge.
Should I bring something for you guys?

339 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:13:36pm

re: #327 Alouette

I taught all my kids (boys and girls) how to cook, by teaching each one how to make their favorite food, whether it was spaghetti & meatballs, macaroni & cheese, lasagna, chili, fried chicken, etc. That way, they would always be able to have their favorite food without depending on someone else to make it for them.

Of course they always liked it better when I made it. :)

Nothing beats mom, are you kidding?

I saw one of the great old Borscht belt comedians doing a spiel on how his mom couldn't cook. It was hilarious. The poor woman could burn water.

Then, he turned dead serious.

He said, "and what I wouldn't give for one more pice of her burnt toast."

Not a dry eye in the house.

340 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:13:51pm

re: #338 Joshua Cohen

I go negotiating with the fridge.
Should I bring something for you guys?

Chocolate ice cream!
And mousse for Callahan23

341 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:14:01pm

re: #336 Sharmuta

Well- as a Christian, I'm not supposed to hate either. It's not what Jesus told us to do, but we are humans. If I'm going to hate, I'd rather it was at those who have earned it.

well said.

342 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:14:05pm

re: #338 Joshua Cohen

brewski1

343 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:14:06pm

re: #338 Joshua Cohen

I go negotiating with the fridge.
Should I bring something for you guys?

Booze.

344 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:14:11pm

re: #337 buzzsawmonkey

It may be turtles all the way down, but it's Africa Olduvai.

There is Ovaltine in Africa?/

345 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:14:44pm

re: #340 reine.de.tout
{Reine}

346 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:15:04pm
347 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:15:42pm

re: #346 buzzsawmonkey

There are oval teens everywhere. Obesity is getting to be a real problem.

I blame Ronald McDonald.

348 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:15:44pm

re: #346 buzzsawmonkey

There are oval teens everywhere. Obesity is getting to be a real problem.

But more in America.

349 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:16:57pm
350 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:16:59pm

re: #324 SasquatchOnSteroids

Twinkies and YooHoo, baby.

//

My aunt is Belgian and prepares a killer Mousse au Chocolat with tiny choc-chips. We'd all die for it!
Yummy.

351 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:18:09pm

re: #347 Sharmuta

I blame Ronald McDonald.

I blame lack of smoking./

352 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:18:14pm

re: #346 buzzsawmonkey

There are oval teens everywhere. Obesity is getting to be a real problem.

Yeah but they are in shape. Round is a shape.

353 Bobblehead  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:18:21pm

re: #330 reine.de.tout

I usually crave a more solid chocolate experience than mousse provides.
I like chocolate ice cream with choco chips in it. Or crumbled up choco-chip cookies.

You want dessert? I'll show dessert!

354 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:18:27pm

re: #349 buzzsawmonkey

I'm quite serious. What's the difference between Joe Camel and Ronald McDonald? Both are used to get kids to fill their bodies with crap. That clown is a menace to society.

355 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:18:35pm

re: #331 OldLineTexan

Well, my politics are conservative, and I think Ann Coulter is too skinny. Unlike Cato, I'm not mocking her to say that.

356 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:19:38pm

re: #334 reine.de.tout

OOPs.
Did I make a faux pas?

You are one of the few people I would dare make mention of that inconvenient societal trend to in conversation, mon cher reine.

A faux pas? Not IMO, but while we are h8ing on h8ers we may have to watch out tongues.

I've been guilty of it. But lately I have been thinking of sauce for the goose ... and some seem to have adopted hefty double standards.

357 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:19:53pm

re: #354 Sharmuta

As a liberal, aren't you confusing Ronald McDonald with Ronald Reagan, whom I personally adored?

358 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:20:29pm

re: #354 Sharmuta

I'm quite serious. What's the difference between Joe Camel and Ronald McDonald? Both are used to get kids to fill their bodies with crap. That clown is a menace to society.

Rock on. You are absolutely right.

Have you ever seen a Sci fi parody called Tripping the Rift?

The villain is a dark clown named Darth BoBo.

Just made me think of that. The show is good for gutter laughs.

359 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:20:37pm

re: #357 quickjustice

I'm not a liberal.

360 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:20:53pm

re: #353 Bobblehead

You want dessert? I'll show dessert!

I went into insulin shock just looking at that, and I'm not even diabetic!

361 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:21:05pm

re: #357 quickjustice

As a liberal, aren't you confusing Ronald McDonald with Ronald Reagan, whom I personally adored?

You are calling Sharmuta a liberal? Are you insane?

362 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:21:13pm

re: #359 Sharmuta

How do you self-identify?

363 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:21:19pm

re: #339 LudwigVanQuixote

Nothing beats mom, are you kidding?

I saw one of the great old Borscht belt comedians doing a spiel on how his mom couldn't cook. It was hilarious. The poor woman could burn water.

Then, he turned dead serious.

He said, "and what I wouldn't give for one more pice of her burnt toast."

Not a dry eye in the house.

This is dedicated to all the Moms that tried their level best to be chefs, or at least mediocre cooks.

364 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:21:36pm

re: #362 quickjustice

For starters, I reassure myself that I'm not you.

365 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:21:55pm

re: #353 Bobblehead

You want dessert? I'll show dessert!

We wants it... pppreciousss... we wantses it...

366 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:21:55pm

re: #361 LudwigVanQuixote

As my mother likes to remind me, I'm often mistaken, but never in doubt! ;-)

367 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:22:09pm

Here's a classic hate mail that just came in:

you sir, are an esotericist, literalist and fussbudget. Lighten up. Not
all Christians are lurking around the corner to chop off your head.

I think I have a new random quote for the upper right column.

368 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:22:21pm

re: #353 Bobblehead

You want dessert? I'll show dessert!

The website you linked to icalls itself 'Lottie + Doof'.
Doof means dumb, stupid in German. Heh.

The recipe is a totally yummy matter in contrast. Hmmm ...

369 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:22:22pm

Journalists Laura Ling & Euna Lee Make First Statement Regarding Their Capture by Korea.

370 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:22:37pm

re: #358 LudwigVanQuixote

Darth Bobo is a piece of comedic mockery genius. I'm not sure I should use "mockery" as an adjective, but I'm too tired to care at this point.

Tripping the Rift was great until they tried to clean it up enough for TV. The series was awful.

371 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:23:08pm

re: #364 Sharmuta

It was a serious question. You claim not to be a liberal. I've been reading you for a couple of years. I have an impression. If I'm mistaken, please correct me.

372 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:23:14pm
373 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:23:46pm

re: #371 quickjustice

Then you must not be doing a very good job reading, or lack comprehension skills.

374 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:24:14pm

re: #367 Charles

Here's a classic hate mail that just came in:


I think I have a new random quote for the upper right column.

"Fussbudget"?

Was it from Lucille Van Pelt?

375 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:24:27pm

re: #372 buzzsawmonkey

White Castle in the Bronx?

376 Bobblehead  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:24:37pm

re: #365 LudwigVanQuixote

We wants it... pppreciousss... we wantses it...

I had the same reaction.

377 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:24:59pm

re: #373 Sharmuta

Hmmm. You're playing defense with offense. What gives?

378 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:25:17pm

re: #372 buzzsawmonkey

You remind me of my Grand Dad, who would wax poetic about burgers from the local shop for a nickel.

379 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:25:25pm

re: #367 Charles

Look at the big words. Too deep for me.

380 snowcrash  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:25:36pm

Fussbudget?

381 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:25:39pm

re: #367 Charles

Here's a classic hate mail that just came in:

I think I have a new random quote for the upper right column.

I think that in radical super far right Christian speech, an esotericist is like a magician or witch.

I'm actually quite serious here. Congrats Charles! I honestly think that you've been told you'll be burnt at the stake or such.

382 KingKenrod  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:26:02pm

re: #367 Charles

Here's a classic hate mail that just came in:

I think I have a new random quote for the upper right column.

"Fussbudget". I can feel the hate from here.

383 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:26:03pm

re: #377 quickjustice

Gee- you pissed me off. How's that for what gives? Go make assumptions about someone else and see how they like it.

384 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:26:05pm

re: #374 OldLineTexan

"Fussbudget"?

Was it from Lucille Van Pelt?

I was thinking of Charles Nelson Reilly, but that works too.

385 Bobblehead  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:26:05pm

re: #367 Charles

Here's a classic hate mail that just came in:

I think I have a new random quote for the upper right column.

"Fussbudget"? That's harsh.

386 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:26:11pm

I haven't seen Ronald McDonald since I was a kid.
We ate at McDonalds a lot though.
I also played just about every sport there is. I wasn't playing video games all day and watching TV all night
And there wasn't a house full of chips cookies and coke. And nobody in my family was overweight.

We don't take our kid to McDonalds except when we are on a road trip.
We don't have junk food in the house and we rarely watch TV and we're outside doing stuff as often as possible.

So while Ronald gets some of the blame, I give most of the blame to todays parents and to a couch potato mentality which has set in on America.

Gonna be a big expensive problem too. These chubby kids are gonna be sick adults, and get sick earlier and more often.

of course healthcare is gonna be free though
/

387 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:26:30pm

re: #367 Charles

Well, at least he's using fancy insults! ;-)

388 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:26:49pm

re: #378 Sharmuta

You remind me of my Grand Dad, who would wax poetic about burgers from the local shop for a nickel.

My wife's grandfather had a grill for a while in Waxahachie, Texas.

Hamburger, 5 cents, 3 for ten cents.
T-bone steak dinner, 25 cents.

Her dad has the menu framed.

389 Joshua Cohen  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:26:59pm

Did I ever mentioned that I live one street away from a fire department?

I nearly got a heart attack...they just got a call...and the moment I opened the fridge the first car got out with siren...and its 3:20 in the morning...


And yeah the negotiations...There is some Havana Club...some Pilzen beer, peppermint ice cream with chocolate chips...cake and some meat

390 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:27:08pm

fussbudgets , flibbidygibbits and fiddlesticks!

391 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:27:17pm
392 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:27:27pm

re: #383 Sharmuta

Shar, you're being a fussbudget.

/

393 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:28:19pm

re: #356 OldLineTexan

You are one of the few people I would dare make mention of that inconvenient societal trend to in conversation, mon cher reine.

A faux pas? Not IMO, but while we are h8ing on h8ers we may have to watch out tongues.

I've been guilty of it. But lately I have been thinking of sauce for the goose ... and some seem to have adopted hefty double standards.

c'est vrai, peut-etre. I shall watch my tongue.

394 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:28:23pm

re: #367 Charles

"Fussbudget" is what the nurses at the hospital called me, after I delivered my firstborn. "Mefuneket" in Hebrew.

395 96RoadKing  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:28:26pm

re: #367 Charles

Here's a classic hate mail that just came in:


I think I have a new random quote for the upper right column.

No headchopping? Damn, and I just got a new axe...I must have missed the memo. Of course, I missed out on church a couple of times...

396 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:28:28pm

re: #390 Shug

fussbudgets , flibbidygibbits and fiddlesticks!

You had better go wash your mouth out.

397 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:28:28pm

re: #389 Joshua Cohen

LOL.

398 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:28:53pm

I can eat an Arbys' Beef'NCheddar. 2 sometimes. And 1 for later.

The other stuff is just toxic waste to me.

399 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:29:00pm

re: #396 OldLineTexan

You had better go wash your mouth out.

fuggedabowdit

400 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:29:21pm

re: #390 Shug

fussbudgets , flibbidygibbits and fiddlesticks!

Fudrukers.

401 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:29:22pm

re: #383 Sharmuta

I don't stereotype people, Sharmuta. In my business, I can't afford to. I also live in NYC where I'm politically hopelessly outnumbered, and I have lots of liberal friends. You "assumed" I was insulting you.

Don't make assumptions about me either!

402 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:29:26pm

re: #394 Alouette

"Fussbudget" is what the nurses at the hospital called me, after I delivered my firstborn. "Mefuneket" in Hebrew.

What a Yiddishe Mama being fussy about her kids... NEVER!

403 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:29:40pm

I wrote this comment two hours ago, when it was On Topic. Then I got busy and had to build a bike. It was still on my clipboard, so I'll post it now.

We've been eating a lot of these fish, that we grew in our garden. The photo doesn't do them justice, they are beautiful! Here is a shot of the foliage. They're hotter than jalpeños.

404 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:29:48pm
405 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:29:50pm

From Wiki:

Esotericism or Esoterism is a term with two basic meanings. In the dictionary sense of the term, it signifies the holding of esoteric opinions,[1] and derives from the Greek ἐσωτερικός (esôterikos), a compound of ἔσω (esô): "within", thus "pertaining to the more inward", mystic. Its antonym is exoteric. In the scholarly literature, the term designates a series of historically related religious currents including Gnosticism, Hermetism, magic, astrology, alchemy, Rosicrucianism, the Christian Theosophy of Jacob Böhme and his followers, Illuminism, Mesmerism, Swedenborgianism, Spiritualism, the theosophical currents associated with Helena Blavatsky and her followers. There are competing views regarding the common traits uniting these currents, not all of which involve "inwardness", mystery or secrecy as a crucial trait.

Are you a closet Swedenborgian, Charles?

406 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:30:03pm

re: #367 Charles

Here's a classic hate mail that just came in:

I think I have a new random quote for the upper right column.

"fussbudget"?
gah, I wonder how old that person is.
The last person I heard use it was my grandmother, and she would be 107 if she were alive.

407 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:30:11pm

I love McDonalds fries.

408 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:30:37pm

re: #398 SasquatchOnSteroids

I can eat an Arbys' Beef'NCheddar. 2 sometimes. And 1 for later.

The other stuff is just toxic waste to me.

A fair percentage of fast food burgers are padded with soy. Some are as much as 30% soy.

409 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:30:41pm

Whoa.

Esotericism.

410 Learned Mother of Zion  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:31:14pm

Buzzsaw, we need a song "How do you solve a problem like Green Footballs" to the tune of "How to you solve a problem like Maria" from "The Sound of Music"

See if you can work in "esotericist, literalist and fussbudget."

411 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:31:40pm
412 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:31:46pm

re: #404 buzzsawmonkey

I dearly loved my Grand Dad... why would you think I would invoke him to insult you?

Maybe this isn't my night. I'm a liberal who uses her Grandfather as an insult.

Great.

413 Gus  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:31:49pm

re: #367 Charles

Here's a classic hate mail that just came in:

I think I have a new random quote for the upper right column.

I could swear someone has sent you an email using the word fussbudget before. I recall saying something about Lucy calling Charlie Brown a fussbudget from time to time. Might be the same person.

414 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:31:57pm

re: #407 Danny

I love McDonalds fries.

They are so good.
But even as I am eating a big mac and fries, and every bite is sooo good , I am already encountering that post McDonalds ill feeling. 1 to 2 hours later even as you feel bloated like you ate a small car, you are starving and craving more...McDonalds!

and of course we usually only get it on a car trip. So the bloated nasty effects are only tripled.
but still, they are sooo good!

415 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:32:05pm

re: #389 Joshua Cohen

Did I ever mentioned that I live one street away from a fire department?

I nearly got a heart attack...they just got a call...and the moment I opened the fridge the first car got out with siren...and its 3:20 in the morning...

And yeah the negotiations...There is some Havana Club...some Pilzen beer, peppermint ice cream with chocolate chips...cake and some meat

dibs on the ice cream.

416 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:32:19pm

re: #411 buzzsawmonkey

Oohhh snap!!

417 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:32:22pm
418 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:32:23pm

re: #372 buzzsawmonkey

There used to be a fast-food hamburger joint near me when I was growing up; not a McDonald's, as they hadn't taken over the world yet, but a sort of proto-McDonald's in a castle-y sort of building.

My friends and I used to go there when we could afford to; even at something like 25 or 50 cents a burger (it may have been less, I don't remember), we could not afford to go there often or buy that much. And we weren't poor.

The stuff is very, very cheap now compared to what it was back then--and kids are much more sedentary because they watch more TV, spend the time doing video games or surfing the Net.

There's nothing wrong with a little fast food; it's thinking that it is the only food, buying too much of it, and then sitting on your ass all day, that's the problem.

I watch with dismay as the portions at these places get bigger and bigger. Once upon a time, the Big Mac deserved the name.
Now the Big Carl is competing on the grounds that it's bigger.
All the fast food places have a "Bigger is better" ad campaign in place now.
I don't want a half-gallon of soda for $0.79, especially when a small will cost me $1.19.
I don't want a 1/3lb. patty on my burger.
I nearly cried when Wendy's killed the Big Bacon Classic and replaced it with the Baconator. Essentially the same burger with two patties and three times the bacon.

419 HoosierHoops  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:32:24pm

re: #407 Danny

I love McDonalds fries.

Here...This is a suitcase nuclear device...Stand here and hold it..I'll be calling you in an hour on the cell...
*wink*

420 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:32:29pm

re: #410 Alouette

Buzzsaw, we need a song "How do you solve a problem like Green Footballs" to the tune of "How to you solve a problem like Maria" from "The Sound of Music"

See if you can work in "esotericist, literalist and fussbudget."

Buzzsaw...the MacGyver of song lyrics.

421 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:33:02pm

re: #407 Danny

I love McDonalds fries.

If you are -30 years old, you have no idea what McDonald's fries tasted like.

The where frid in mallow.

422 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:33:12pm

re: #405 Pianobuff

From Wiki:

Are you a closet Swedenborgian, Charles?

Man! This is awesome he's a witch!

Respectfully, as someone who these types have been telling that he would burn in hell for his whole life, I am deeply proud that my lizard leader is now a witch.

I hope that he is as amused by it as I am.

423 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:33:21pm
424 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:33:37pm

YUMMM. Sashimi.

425 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:34:02pm

re: #421 midwestgak

I started eating them when the signs said "Over 10,000 Sold."

426 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:34:38pm

re: #367 Charles

Here's a classic hate mail that just came in:

I think I have a new random quote for the upper right column.

Seems someone's been reading "It Pays to Enrich Your Word Power" in their Reader's Digest.

427 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:34:44pm

re: #409 Charles

Whoa.

Esotericism.

So, is that an insult or not? Maybe you are a Mesmerist.

428 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:35:38pm

re: #422 LudwigVanQuixote

Charles is a warlock and a gnostic? Geeeze! What's he wearing for Halloween? His large green lizard costume? Wait a minute-- gasp-- that's NOT a costume! ;-)

429 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:35:56pm

re: #384 Pianobuff

I was thinking of Charles Nelson Reilly, but that works too.

Did you say Charles Nelson Reilly?

Charles:
A fussbudget? That's a new one... does that mean you fuss but you're on a budget?

430 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:36:00pm

re: #411 buzzsawmonkey

The Biofuel Burger™!

Seeing as how soy is a prime ingredient in female hormone replacement therapy, it's small wonder that the men who eat the most burgers have the biggest man boobs.

431 quickjustice  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:36:15pm

re: #427 wrenchwench

Dr. Mesmer was, by all accounts, amazing!

432 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:36:36pm
433 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:36:38pm

re: #425 Danny

I started eating them when the signs said "Over 10,000 Sold."

There is no M or B behind 10,000. So you are a cave man?

434 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:36:51pm

I'm confused. How can I be both an esotericist and a literalist? They seem to be mutually exclusive.

Oh well. That's better than the usual run of insults like "douchebag," "Hitler," "atheist," etc.

435 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:36:52pm

re: #427 wrenchwench

So, is that an insult or not? Maybe you are a Mesmerist.

If he's a musician, would it make him a klezmerist?

436 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:37:23pm

re: #421 midwestgak

I kinda gave up on McDonald's. The food tastes ok but there's something about the smell that started to bother me. I always smelled sugar coming from my take away bag of food. I thought that maybe they put the burgers next the the apple pies or something but it eventually dawned on me that they just load up burgers with sucrose. Kinda gives me the willies.

437 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:37:25pm

re: #411 buzzsawmonkey

The Biofuel Burger™!

There's a burger joint down the street from me. 100% ground beef patties, fresh, never frozen. And not much more expensive than, say, McDonald's.

If I ever feel like eating a burger someone else made, I go there. I still prefer my own cooking, though. I'm pretty handy on the grill.

438 yochanan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:37:43pm

fresh sea kitteh = sea kitteh sushi

439 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:37:45pm

I've lost 5 lbs in 3 weeks, down to 210. A whole 5 lbs. I miss my ice cream, but I did sneak a Strawberry Shortcake at work the other day.

Been rooting around the entire house trying to get a whiff of something junky. I guess she was serious. There's nothing here.

440 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:39:08pm

re: #433 midwestgak

There is no M or B behind 10,000. So you are a cave man?

Those ain't hamsters growing in my ears!

441 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:39:09pm
442 LudwigVanQuixote  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:39:14pm

re: #427 wrenchwench

So, is that an insult or not? Maybe you are a Mesmerist.

No, in this context, they are saying that he consorts with STAN. BUt it is actually quite a compliment because they are ascribing occult powers to Charles. The Lizard lord has them scared. Perhaps he will turn them into a newt...

Next, they will call him a Kabbalist.

Again, Charles if you are not amused I am sorry, but I think this is tragicomically awesome that you are now frightening the extreme whacko fringe so much that they think you are some latter day Gandalf out to get them with you fussbuckety magic wand.

Beware of being Rebuked...

443 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:39:18pm

re: #434 Charles

You're definitely vague.
You're rigidly lax.
You're methodically decisive.
You're clearly opaque.

444 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:39:57pm

I'm torn by this. Curt Schilling contemplating Kennedy's Senate Seat. Well, you know he'd be good for a quote. Or making it to session with a bloody ankle. And isn't afraid to pitch inside, which comes in handy when dealing with pesky lobbyists.

445 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:40:10pm

re: #436 Killgore Trout

A coating of sugar on the taters also makes for crispier fries. Yeah, they do that too.

You'd be surprised (or maybe not) what they put sugar into. I worked at a pizza joint once, sugar was the second ingredient on the list in their sauce.

446 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:40:17pm

re: #429 lawhawk

Did you say Charles Nelson Reilly?

Charles:
A fussbudget? That's a new one... does that mean you fuss but you're on a budget?

Wow. Charles Nelson Reilly just exuded machismo in that treatment. The nipple on the back of the neck weirded me out though.

447 badger1970  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:40:36pm

re: #427 wrenchwench

I thought you said Mescherschmidt

448 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:40:49pm
449 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:40:51pm

re: #432 buzzsawmonkey

I got gnostic habits
I take tea at three...

I hunt down rabbits
Using my .223...

450 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:40:58pm

re: #436 Killgore Trout

I kinda gave up on McDonald's. The food tastes ok but there's something about the smell that started to bother me. I always smelled sugar coming from my take away bag of food. I thought that maybe they put the burgers next the the apple pies or something but it eventually dawned on me that they just load up burgers with sucrose. Kinda gives me the willies.

I think that explains the hunger I get shortly after eating a large McDonalds meal. High sugar load. High insulin load. Hypoglycemia. CRAVING for more food even though I am still so full.

That's why I prefer In n Out. Thank God I don't live on the west coast. I'd be 3000 pounds.

451 Killian Bundy  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:41:14pm

WH withdraws call for students to 'help' Obama

The Obama administration late Wednesday withdrew a recommendation that school children who watch a video featuring President Obama next week write about how they might "help the president" as part of a classroom assignment.

The decision came after conservative critics attacked the plan by federal education officials that teachers supplement the speech with a special curriculum that was designed in concert with the White House.

Among the activities the government was suggesting for pre-kindergarten to sixth grade students: that they "write letters to themselves about what they can do to help the president." By Wednesday evening, the sentence asking children to think about how they can "help the president" had been removed from the document.

Another task, recommended for students immediately after listening to the speech, was to engage in a discussion about what "the President wants us to do."

The novel curriculum plan brought sharp criticism from conservatives, including some who complained that classrooms were being used to spread political propaganda. In response to the criticism, the White House last night confirmed they were revising the lesson plan that was distributed last week by the U.S. Department of Education.

"We're clarifying that language," said Tommy Vietor, a White House spokesman.

/everyone happy now?

452 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:41:18pm

re: #447 badger1970

I thought you said Mescherschmidt

Oh yeah?! Well Focke-Wulf you!

453 Danny  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:41:42pm

re: #434 Charles

I'm confused. How can I be both an esotericist and a literalist?

I think it means you wear face cream while you type instruction manuals.

454 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:42:10pm

re: #451 Killian Bundy

What's worse? That they did it in the first place or they caved? I think the latter--which might explain his falling poll numbers.

455 Joshua Cohen  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:42:25pm

re: #452 calcajun

Oh yeah?! Well Focke-Wulf you!

Heinkel this!

456 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:42:30pm

re: #445 Slumbering Behemoth


I worked at a pizza joint once, sugar was the second ingredient on the list in their sauce.


Even most store bought brands of pasta sauce contain too much sugar for me. When I make my own I don't put any sugar in it.

457 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:42:36pm

re: #445 Slumbering Behemoth

A coating of sugar on the taters also makes for crispier fries. Yeah, they do that too.

You'd be surprised (or maybe not) what they put sugar into. I worked at a pizza joint once, sugar was the second ingredient on the list in their sauce.

Lots of Italians put sugar in the gravy to compensate for the acidic content for those with more sensitive stomachs. I would be surprised if most pizza didn't have it.

458 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:42:56pm

re: #444 lawhawk

I'm torn by this. Curt Schilling contemplating Kennedy's Senate Seat. Well, you know he'd be good for a quote. Or making it to session with a bloody ankle. And isn't afraid to pitch inside, which comes in handy when dealing with pesky lobbyists.

I'm all for a change up in Massachusetts.

459 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:43:10pm

re: #444 lawhawk

I'm torn by this. Curt Schilling contemplating Kennedy's Senate Seat. Well, you know he'd be good for a quote. Or making it to session with a bloody ankle. And isn't afraid to pitch inside, which comes in handy when dealing with pesky lobbyists.


He'll need to learn his hopenchange up if he wants to get elected from the People's republic of mass

460 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:43:51pm

re: #455 Joshua Cohen

Heinkel this!

Come over here and I'll kick you in the Dornier.

461 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:44:15pm

re: #450 Shug

I think that explains the hunger I get shortly after eating a large McDonalds meal. High sugar load. High insulin load. Hypoglycemia. CRAVING for more food even though I am still so full.

That's why I prefer In n Out. Thank God I don't live on the west coast. I'd be 3000 pounds.

Have you seen their secret menu?

Fatburger has a burger they call "The Hypocrite". It's a veggie-burger topped with bacon.

462 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:44:19pm

re: #452 calcajun

Oh yeah?! Well Focke-Wulf you!

Dornier that back, will you?

463 badger1970  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:45:10pm

re: #444 lawhawk

He always went to the team that paid him the most. That'll make him the perfect MASS politician, sock or no bloody sock.

464 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:45:17pm

re: #450 Shug

You really ought to try this new burger joint. They make the Big Kahuna Burger... It's Hawaiian burger joint. And they make quite the beverage to wash it all down with. /

Seriously though, I try to avoid all manner of fast food; I've tried a few that are decent around these parts - White Manna, which makes sliders similar to White Castle (though I think Manna was around at or before WC), Bobby's Burger Palace (are you ready for a throwdown, and they really do have $5 shakes), and more recently Sonic (food decent, but totally eco-destructive with the car waits).

465 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:45:18pm

re: #457 Pianobuff

Lots of Italians put sugar in the gravy to compensate for the acidic content for those with more sensitive stomachs. I would be surprised if most pizza didn't have it.

Of course, but that usually takes no more than a pinch of sugar. But as the second ingredient on the list? That goes so far beyond tempering acidity as to be insane.

466 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:45:21pm

re: #461 Pianobuff

Have you seen their secret menu?

Fatburger has a burger they call "The Hypocrite". It's a veggie-burger topped with bacon.

LMAO !

467 Joshua Cohen  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:45:28pm

re: #460 calcajun

Come over here and I'll kick you in the Dornier.

And I will twist your Horton!

468 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:45:49pm

re: #418 CyanSnowHawk

I watch with dismay as the portions at these places get bigger and bigger. Once upon a time, the Big Mac deserved the name.
Now the Big Carl is competing on the grounds that it's bigger.
All the fast food places have a "Bigger is better" ad campaign in place now.
I don't want a half-gallon of soda for $0.79, especially when a small will cost me $1.19.
I don't want a 1/3lb. patty on my burger.
I nearly cried when Wendy's killed the Big Bacon Classic and replaced it with the Baconator. Essentially the same burger with two patties and three times the bacon.

I think portion size is a bigger problem than the actual food. I can recall growing up, our dinner portions were not huge masses of food - it would all fit on one plate with space left over.

Now, one of those monster burgers is considered an appropriate portion size for one person. It's actually enough food for two or three people.

469 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:46:25pm

re: #465 Slumbering Behemoth

Of course, but that usually takes no more than a pinch of sugar. But as the second ingredient on the list? That goes so far beyond tempering acidity as to be insane.

You've got a point there...

470 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:46:43pm

re: #462 callahan23

Good to see you. I want to say that before you leave. It's late for you.

471 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:46:44pm

re: #457 Pianobuff

Lots of Italians put sugar in the gravy to compensate for the acidic content for those with more sensitive stomachs. I would be surprised if most pizza didn't have it.

Good christ?! Have you never picked up a jar of tomato gravy in the store? The third ingredient is "high fructose corn syrup". Go into a Chuck E Cheese and the reason the kids are whirling like demented dervishes is the sugar from the fountain drinks and the pizza. Of course the pizza places have it.

I use a ton a basil instead of sugar. Tastes better

472 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:47:24pm

re: #456 Killgore Trout

I usually do a can of sauce to 1 packet of sugar - 1 tsp. It cuts the acid just a bit. I also sometimes add a bit of soy sauce when making the tomato sauce to enhance the umami.

473 Shug  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:47:58pm

re: #461 Pianobuff

Have you seen their secret menu?

Fatburger has a burger they call "The Hypocrite". It's a veggie-burger topped with bacon.


I'm a double double animal style man

474 CyanSnowHawk  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:48:20pm

re: #468 reine.de.tout

I think portion size is a bigger problem than the actual food. I can recall growing up, our dinner portions were not huge masses of food - it would all fit on one plate with space left over.

Now, one of those monster burgers is considered an appropriate portion size for one person. It's actually enough food for two or three people.

It's not just fast food places doing it. What used to be an unusual practice is now commonplace throughout the whole restaurant industry.

475 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:48:30pm

re: #470 midwestgak

Good to see you. I want to say that before you leave. It's late for you.

You are right! You reminded me of the hour.
- - -
Gals 'n guys, Lizards and 'menschen'.
See y'all down the road.
I love you {Lizardim) - mostly. Really!

476 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:48:35pm

re: #471 calcajun

Good christ?! Have you never picked up a jar of tomato gravy in the store? The third ingredient is "high fructose corn syrup". Go into a Chuck E Cheese and the reason the kids are whirling like demented dervishes is the sugar from the fountain drinks and the pizza. Of course the pizza places have it.

I use a ton a basil instead of sugar. Tastes better

I guess I haven't since I make it from scratch... I still put a little sugar in or I'll be up all night. But certainly not corn syrup...that's just nuts.

477 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:48:39pm

re: #412 Sharmuta

I dearly loved my Grand Dad... why would you think I would invoke him to insult you?

Maybe this isn't my night. I'm a liberal who uses her Grandfather as an insult.

Great.

You could do a lot worse.

I ended up as a Holocaust denier to a clique of opinionated Lizards one night.

Still haven't quite figured that out.

BTW, we weren't even discussing the Holocaust.

478 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:48:58pm

re: #473 Shug

I'm a double double animal style man

That came out wrong in so many ways./

479 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:49:39pm

re: #473 Shug

I'm a double double animal style man

in bed...

480 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:49:48pm

re: #471 calcajun

Good christ?! Have you never picked up a jar of tomato gravy in the store? The third ingredient is "high fructose corn syrup". Go into a Chuck E Cheese and the reason the kids are whirling like demented dervishes is the sugar from the fountain drinks and the pizza. Of course the pizza places have it.

I use a ton a basil instead of sugar. Tastes better

I use worcestershire sauce.
So I just went and looked at the ingredients.
#2 is molasses and #3 is high fructose corn syrup.
I had no clue that's what i was putting into my sauce.

481 Erik The Red  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:49:55pm

re: #475 callahan23

You are right! You reminded me of the hour.
- - -
Gals 'n guys, Lizards and 'menschen'.
See y'all down the road.
I love you {Lizardim) - mostly. Really!

A pleasure as usual Cal23. Sleep tight.

482 yochanan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:50:12pm

five brothers makes a great burger for the price, get one with everything on it and you have a meal

483 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:50:27pm

re: #476 Pianobuff

I guess I haven't since I make it from scratch... I still put a little sugar in or I'll be up all night. But certainly not corn syrup...that's just nuts.

Corn syrup is cheaper than cane sugar.

Hence the widespread use in processed foods.

484 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:51:08pm

re: #482 yochanan

five brothers makes a great burger

Cannibal!

485 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:51:09pm

re: #474 CyanSnowHawk

It's not just fast food places doing it. What used to be an unusual practice is now commonplace throughout the whole restaurant industry.

Absolutely.
When my daughter and I go out for lunch, we'll either split an entree, or we'll order a couple of appetizers and split those.

It's always way too much food.

486 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:51:27pm

re: #480 reine.de.tout

I use worcestershire sauce.
So I just went and looked at the ingredients.
#2 is molasses and #3 is high fructose corn syrup.
I had no clue that's what i was putting into my sauce.

Molasses goes on anything.

/Depression-era Southern tastes

487 callahan23  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:51:52pm

re: #470 midwestgak
And of course thanks. {}
re: #481 Erik The Red
Good night (Erik)

488 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:51:54pm

re: #485 reine.de.tout

Absolutely.
When my daughter and I go out for lunch, we'll either split an entree, or we'll order a couple of appetizers and split those.

It's always way too much food.

Because you never bring ME.

/

489 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:52:00pm

re: #477 OldLineTexan

You could do a lot worse.

I ended up as a Holocaust denier to a clique of opinionated Lizards one night.

Still haven't quite figured that out.

BTW, we weren't even discussing the Holocaust.

There are a few folks who seem to always be in "gotcha" mode.

490 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:52:42pm

re: #469 Pianobuff

You've got a point there...

I know my Italian cooking. I have an awesome red sauce recipe. I'd share the secret ingredients, but my momma would kill me.

491 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:52:59pm

re: #483 OldLineTexan

Umm. The story is that in the 1970's the corn growers couldn't sell their stocks. So, then Sec Ag Earl Butz persuaded food makers to use corn syrup as a sweetener instead of sugar and gave them breaks for doing it. That's why the crap is in almost everything.

492 yochanan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:53:18pm

re: #484 calcajun

wondered what the 'long pig berger' was about.

493 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:53:45pm

re: #489 reine.de.tout

There are a few folks who seem to always be in "gotcha" mode.

I've been avoiding them, lest I find myself sat in the corner or banned.

494 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:54:10pm

re: #489 reine.de.tout

There are a few folks who seem to always be in "gotcha" mode.

{reine} Glad you are not one of them.

495 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:54:41pm

re: #483 OldLineTexan

Corn syrup is cheaper than cane sugar.

Hence the widespread use in processed foods.

Which sucks. HFC isn't that good for you, and one of my relatives is allergic to corn. It's a pain in the butt for her to find decent food.

496 Joshua Cohen  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:54:54pm

If Charles ever got love-mail?

And I am not talking about some: "You are doing well. The blog is good" mails.

I would love to read about this!

497 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:55:14pm

Mail --->

498 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:56:05pm

re: #491 calcajun

Umm. The story is that in the 1970's the corn growers couldn't sell their stocks. So, then Sec Ag Earl Butz persuaded food makers to use corn syrup as a sweetener instead of sugar and gave them breaks for doing it. That's why the crap is in almost everything.

What's the ummm for?

Regardless of the hi(story), have you priced it?

It's cheaper. That's why Coca-Cola switched.

And sugar growers were getting subsidies too, for the longest time. Unsure if they're still in place.

The area southwest of Houston isn't called "Sugarland" for nothing; Imperial is from there.

499 altermite  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:56:20pm

#483 OldLineTexan

Corn syrup is cheaper than cane sugar.

Hence the widespread use in processed foods.

Cheaper in the US.

It would be much closer in price if we dropped some of the fairly high tariffs and such on imported sugar.

500 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:57:30pm

re: #499 altermite

#483 OldLineTexan


Cheaper in the US.

It would be much closer in price if we dropped some of the fairly high tariffs and such on imported sugar.

Well, I was being US-centric.

I don't get out to France for a burger all that often.

/

501 calcajun  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:59:42pm

re: #498 OldLineTexan

What's the ummm for?

Regardless of the hi(story), have you priced it?

It's cheaper. That's why Coca-Cola switched.

And sugar growers were getting subsidies too, for the longest time. Unsure if they're still in place.

The area southwest of Houston isn't called "Sugarland" for nothing; Imperial is from there.

I'm partial to cane-- spent some summers on the Sinclair Plantation in Port Allen, LA.

502 OldLineTexan  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:00:35pm

re: #501 calcajun

I'm partial to cane-- spent some summers on the Sinclair Plantation in Port Allen, LA.

I used to get it to "chaw" as a child. Like I side, sugar country was nearby.

503 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:03:24pm

Esotericist, literal, fussbudget Charles,
Received a great deal of hate-mail and snarls.
The ones most chagrined were the former star posters
Who left, or were banned, for being sad boasters,
Or wingbats, or haters, or baiters, or trolls.
They opened their own site, took strays in, held polls,
And soon made up things that would make you turn pale
About all of the bad stuff the lizards did. Fail.
You can't make this crap up. There were dust-ups and stuff.
Some people got booted. Some left in a huff.
Now they sit there and stew like old women in mourning
For all of the karma they lost without warning.
Long may they sit there, and long may they stew,
Sorry people with nothing but poison to brew.

504 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:04:20pm

re: #493 OldLineTexan

I've been avoiding them, lest I find myself sat in the corner or banned.

I try to avoid them too. Mostly.
re: #494 midwestgak

{reine} Glad you are not one of them.


{gak} You are so sweet! thank you!

505 reine.de.tout  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:05:09pm

re: #501 calcajun

I'm partial to cane-- spent some summers on the Sinclair Plantation in Port Allen, LA.

sugar cane - One of the great joys of a southern life, imo.

506 wrenchwench  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:05:43pm

re: #503 Cato the Elder

That's fabulous! I hope you'll put it in its new home, the next thread.

507 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:06:29pm

re: #506 wrenchwench

Ah, I just noticed it. I think in this case a repost is in order.

508 Joshua Cohen  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:06:41pm

Later guys - I did not understand the fussbudget joke and its o'dark early so I will run my 5+ clicks and go to bed.

Nice evening!

509 right_on_target  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:16:07pm

re: #406 reine.de.tout

"fussbudget"?
gah, I wonder how old that person is.
The last person I heard use it was my grandmother, and she would be 107 if she were alive.


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Fussbucket" is the word I used to hear.

510 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:25:40pm

re: #451 Killian Bundy

WH withdraws call for students to 'help' Obama

/everyone happy now?

The content was never the issue.

I heard about this issue first right here on KLGF, and said so when we (lizards, that is) spoke about it yesterday or so. I am dismayed by the continuing misunderstanding or even misrepresentation of the issue by our media. I'm in Japan, so all I get is CNNj, but when the American feed is on it's bad--the issue is most certainly not the content. The issue is how much government you want in schools.

America is a system designed to limit the power of government, and that is why it works. You don't have to be stark, raving mad to appreciate the balance worked out by the framers of the Constitution, and the reasons for those considerations.

Anybody who think that government is too small, or has not enough power, would rightly be dismayed by safeguards against the natural creep toward ever more power and ever larger government. These are natural bureaucratic processes which do their damage without a single wrong-doer in any office. You don't have to see bogeymen behind every potted plant in order to feel that limits on the power and size of government are good, and in fact the best guarantors of our long-term freedom and security.

So I'm disappointed to see this issue framed as something about content, and therefore given to the kooks. I am sure that there are kooks who insist that "zerobama" will be loading his speech with secret keywords or some such thing. This does not concern me much--if he were to do such a thing, it would be all over the papers, at least some, and fur would fly. But in order to get there, the leader of the executive branch must first give his address, and that is the real problem. By focusing on the content, we forfeit the opportunity to debate the propriety of the government going over the heads of parents directly to the children.

So never mind the sycophantic NEA paperwork--they're already indoctrinating the kids anyway. Fight that as you always have. The real problem here is the government's access to children.
If the President is going to say something benign and agreeable to parents, then he is duplicating the role of the parent, cheapening the parent. If he is going to say something benign but disagreeable to parents, then he is setting himself up against parents, in the eyes of the children.

Finally, comparisons between the role of a teacher and the role of the President are not helpful or well-informed. Many Presidents have made comments toward children in other speeches, hosted children's groups at the White House, answered the odd question for a children's journalism class, and so forth. This is hardly the same thing as the President coming through the all-too-willing school system to speak directly to children while the parents are at work.

I do *not* feel that there is any imminent tyranny at work here. I also do not feel that we must wait for that to be the case before enforcing standards designed to prevent tyranny. Keep the federal government, Republican or Democrat, away from our kids.

511 right_on_target  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:27:38pm

re: #471 calcajun

Good christ?! Have you never picked up a jar of tomato gravy in the store? The third ingredient is "high fructose corn syrup". Go into a Chuck E Cheese and the reason the kids are whirling like demented dervishes is the sugar from the fountain drinks and the pizza. Of course the pizza places have it.

I use a ton a basil instead of sugar. Tastes better


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
THAT "high fructose corn syrup" is the real problem. I believe that ever since food manufacturers stopped using real sugar "CANE or BEET sugar" obesity has skyrocketed.
Try a real "Coke" from Mexico made with cane sugar. Crisp taste. Tastes much better than ours made with corn syrup.

Corn syrup gets me sick.

512 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 6:30:28pm

re: #496 Joshua Cohen

If Charles ever got love-mail?

And I am not talking about some: "You are doing well. The blog is good" mails.

I would love to read about this!

Give it up, Charles. Show us the steamy mash notes from Wisconsin girls alone in the cold with LGF!

513 Summersong  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 7:28:23pm

Thanks for all the fish...

514 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey  Wed, Sep 2, 2009 11:33:04pm

So cool! Thanks so much for this.

Has anyone been there or to the Georgia Aquarium?


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