Do not trust the shover robot.

Do not trust the pusher robot.

weet dreams all!

At what point on the graph do “must” and “cannot” meet?

Perhaps Ro-Man should consider living on spherical surfaces?

re: #4 freetoken

Perhaps Ro-Man should consider living on spherical surfaces?

Already with the hyperbole?

They meet at CHOCOLATE, Duh!

(Yummy to nearly everyone!)

bbl

I don't have the energy to discuss politics anymore.

Sure, he sounds all conflicted with his talk of I cannot, yet I must and I must yet I cannot.

Then he gets decisive

Johnny: I think you are just a big bully, picking on those smaller than you are!
Ro-Man: Now I will kill you.

re: #1 victor_yugo

Do not trust the shover robot.

re: #2 victor_yugo

Do not trust the pusher robot.

Does that mean Ro-Man knows The Terrible Secret Of Space?

Low cost health care being delivered in America. This is not about handouts for dead beats , drugs dealers, and illegals. It is about clinics that will treat all three as well as ye and thee for moderate cost and efficiency: I like it.

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

re: #10 Dark_Falcon

Does that mean Ro-Man knows The Terrible Secret Of Space?

Yes. Cable TV is the black hole that will gobble us up.

It is way too late for me to be up! In the words of Kirk, "Must...resist!!!

Oh, and btw, Glenn Bleck is still nucking futs! Just in case you didn't know.

re: #14 Irenicum

Oh, and btw, Glenn Bleck is still nucking futs! Just in case you didn't know.

Isaiah 2:4 is communist propaganda!

I talked to a friend tonight who is a confirmed ODS case. I said I though our doubts and fears about Obama last year had been warranted, given his associations and background, but that our worst fears had not been realized. I cited O's refusal to bug out in Iraq or Afghanistan or sell out Israel completely and his failure to renew the assault weapons ban, let alone start the kind of door-to-door gun grab that features so prominently in paranoid right-wing thinking.
My friend responded that he thought Obama was just following some kind of diabolical strategy of making a few concessions to lull us into a false sense of security before he lowers the boom. He said he could never be persuaded to "like Obama." I had not in fact asked him to do that, but just to give credit where it is due.

It struck me that the biggest difference between me and the ODS mob is simply that I was willing to give the guy a chance, and they are not.

Late night Radiohead...for all my Comrades. :)

re: #11 pat

Low cost health care being delivered in America. This is not about handouts for dead beats , drugs dealers, and illegals. It is about clinics that will treat all three as well as ye and thee for moderate cost and efficiency: I like it.

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

Sorry to interrupt but where in that article you link are dead beats , drugs dealers, and illegals mentioned?

re: #15 Sharmuta

Isaiah 2:4 is communist propaganda!

You know who else was a community organiser? JESUS!

//

re: #15 Sharmuta

I guess I'm also a nuckin' fut, since Isaiah is my favorite book of the Bible. But hey, what do I know, Isaiah presaged Jesus! And that's dangerous stuff!!!

OT. Introducing myself (again).
I know you are supposed to introduce yourself in the registration thread but being a fool, I forgot. I tried to rectify it about 48 hrs later but of course nobody reads a thread that old. So here we go again.

I am from Finland, working as an ICT-manager at a chemical company.
I have been lurking here a few years and thought it would be polite to step forward and reveal myself.
I find it refreshing to read a non-crazy, American, center-right blog. I seem to be a bit more to the left than most of you here (coming from a godless, socialist, EU-hellhole as I do).

Anyway, this is my introduction, it is not much but it is mine.

Don't think I will post too many posts as you seem to be keeping VERY strange hours! Why can't you conform and adapt to EU-time!? ///

Time now is 09:41, that is 9:41 AM for you.

regards

re: #16 Shiplord Kirel

It struck me that the biggest difference between me and the ODS mob is simply that I was willing to give the guy a chance, and they are not.

Yup. The crazed left was like that with BDS as well. If Obama or Bush does X, it's proof of crazy plot Y. If he fails to do X, or even does the opposite, it's just proof that he's sneakier than we thought, and even MORE evidence for Y!

Teh stupid, it burns away our critical reasoning skills, precious. :(

re: #19 iceweasel

You know who else was a community organiser? JESUS!

//

Where I am, a woman wrote a letter to the editor in the local bird cage liner comparing "O" to Jesus. She gave vague examples. Then I remembered why I hate the local paper.

re: #21 shimoda

OT. Introducing myself (again).
I know you are supposed to introduce yourself in the registration thread but being a fool, I forgot. I tried to rectify it about 48 hrs later but of course nobody reads a thread that old. So here we go again.

I am from Finland, working as an ICT-manager at a chemical company.
I have been lurking here a few years and thought it would be polite to step forward and reveal myself.
I find it refreshing to read a non-crazy, American, center-right blog. I seem to be a bit more to the left than most of you here (coming from a godless, socialist, EU-hellhole as I do).

Anyway, this is my introduction, it is not much but it is mine.

Don't think I will post too many posts as you seem to be keeping VERY strange hours! Why can't you conform and adapt to EU-time!? ///

Time now is 09:41, that is 9:41 AM for you.

regards

Welcome - and BTW there are some centrists here too...

re: #21 shimoda

Welcome to LGF (again). :)

re: #21 shimoda

May I ask what shimoda means?

re: #22 iceweasel

Yup. The crazed left was like that with BDS as well. If Obama or Bush does X, it's proof of crazy plot Y. If he fails to do X, or even does the opposite, it's just proof that he's sneakier than we thought, and even MORE evidence for Y!

Teh stupid, it burns away our critical reasoning skills, precious. :(

In the 80s we used to say "think don't act."

re: #16 Shiplord Kirel

I talked to a friend tonight who is a confirmed ODS case. I said I though our doubts and fears about Obama last year had been warranted, given his associations and background, but that our worst fears had not been realized. I cited O's refusal to bug out in Iraq or Afghanistan or sell out Israel completely and his failure to renew the assault weapons ban, let alone start the kind of door-to-door gun grab that features so prominently in paranoid right-wing thinking.
My friend responded that he thought Obama was just following some kind of diabolical strategy of making a few concessions to lull us into a false sense of security before he lowers the boom. He said he could never be persuaded to "like Obama." I had not in fact asked him to do that, but just to give credit where it is due.

It struck me that the biggest difference between me and the ODS mob is simply that I was willing to give the guy a chance, and they are not.

I guess I have ODS then, because I knew what I knew from the research that was done for two years prior to his election, and therefore was not willing to give him a chance. I knew exactly what the hell he was and he's, unfortunately, proved all our worst fears already.

re: #24 LudwigVanQuixote

Welcome - and BTW there are some centrists here too...

Those of us who live on the surface of a sphere have not need of a center...

re: #28 TheMatrix31

I guess I have ODS then, because I knew what I knew from the research that was done for two years prior to his election, and therefore was not willing to give him a chance. I knew exactly what the hell he was and he's, unfortunately, proved all our worst fears already.

My point being that just because the only chance I afforded him was the one to prove me wrong, doesn't mean I have some sort of derangement.

re: #24 LudwigVanQuixote

Welcome - and BTW there are some centrists here too...

And even some progressives!

re: #26 LudwigVanQuixote

May I ask what shimoda means?

It's not far from here.

re: #17 iceweasel

[Video]

Late night Radiohead...for all my Comrades. :)

Here is one of my all time fav tunes arranged on solo guitar by a really good guitarist.

Perfect for a late night chill.

Wise lizards will know the answer...
What happens when/IF my Karma equals or exceeds my posts?
Do I go out in a flash of light?
Receive a golden crown upon my head?
Get a dam fine spanking from a stranger?
LOL!

I might get there tonight!

re: #16 Shiplord Kirel

b/c he wasn't following "the script" meant that he was following something much more sinister and all encompassing. Yes...the all encompassing conspiracy!!! Who cares what the facts are.

re: #26 LudwigVanQuixote

May I ask what shimoda means?

I read Illusions, The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach many, many years ago and the name stuck in my head.

re: #29 freetoken

Those of us who live on the surface of a sphere have not need of a center...

If you are constrained to a surface in S2 then the center is at right angles to your reality.

Well, I'm about to embark on another eBay selling spree. I've sold on eBay since near its beginning, almost always photo gear. It used to be easier, but in the last year or so it has gotten less friendly.

I find myself trusting people less... It used to be fun to buy on eBay also, but now one has to look for those rare opportunities when an original owner is selling their prized possession - the advent of the online junk dealer is a manifestation of declining American culture, I propose.

re: #36 shimoda

I read Illusions, The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach many, many years ago and the name stuck in my head.

Excellent.

re: #34 Floral Giraffe

No might about it.

re: #34 Floral Giraffe

Wise lizards will know the answer...
What happens when/IF my Karma equals or exceeds my posts?
Do I go out in a flash of light?
Receive a golden crown upon my head?
Get a dam fine spanking from a stranger?
LOL!

I might get there tonight!

Updinged for kinkiness.

re: #38 freetoken

I have an entire "room-O-Ebay" waiting for me...
Cash is good. The selling part, well, it's work.
Good luck to you!

Illuminati favourites New (World) Order - Perfect Kiss

re: #36 shimoda

I read Illusions, The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach many, many years ago and the name stuck in my head.

What the caterpillar calls the end of the world
the Master calls a butterfly.

re: #33 LudwigVanQuixote

Here is one of my all time fav tunes arranged on solo guitar by a really good guitarist.

Perfect for a late night chill.

Ludwig, I love your taste in music. I love this song too!

Jimmah and I left you a bunch of tunes on the email thread, btw.

Some pictures (41) of the Station Fire in Southern California

Station Fire

Just amazing!!

re: #44 Silvergirl

I LIKE that! Is it a quote? If so, from what?
TIA!

re: #44 Silvergirl

What the caterpillar calls the end of the world
the Master calls a butterfly.

No always do members of the same family grow up under the same roof.

re: #43 Jimmah

People are just insisting on making me nostalgic for Junior High school again.

re: #28 TheMatrix31

I guess I have ODS then, because I knew what I knew from the research that was done for two years prior to his election, and therefore was not willing to give him a chance. I knew exactly what the hell he was and he's, unfortunately, proved all our worst fears already.

Here's the thing: he is proving many of our *reasonable* fears valid. I feared he would "pack" strange people into ill-defined positions of power. I feared he would try to nationalize health care. I feared he would push the sorts of taxes and penalties on businesses that kill our economy.

I read a very good book, The Case Against Barack Obama. No this is not that one book with all the whacked-out lies and distortions. This is the other one. Hang on... Yeah, the bad book is the Corsi one. This one is by David Freddoso, [Link: www.amazon.com...] and it is a damned good book. It is well-researched and well-written.
I read this book not because I am some sort of raving monster, but because I am a conservative who doesn't like the way this guy (the Senator Obama) talks. Freddoso was right; there are serious things that are plenty disturbing about our President, and now that the election is past we are forced to battle these dumb ideas one at a time.
Having morons like Glenn Beck hitting him with a pie in the face doesn't help me win the debate.

re: #46 Cheechako

Some pictures (41) of the Station Fire in Southern California

Station Fire

Just amazing!!

Yes.
Dramatic, beautiful, tragic.

re: #34 Floral Giraffe

Wise lizards will know the answer...
What happens when/IF my Karma equals or exceeds my posts?
Do I go out in a flash of light?
Receive a golden crown upon my head?
Get a dam fine spanking from a stranger?
LOL!

I might get there tonight!

in bed

My favorite New (World) Order anthem for teh sekrit MJ12 Illuminati agents...

re: #38 freetoken

Well, I'm about to embark on another eBay selling spree. I've sold on eBay since near its beginning, almost always photo gear. It used to be easier, but in the last year or so it has gotten less friendly.

I find myself trusting people less... It used to be fun to buy on eBay also, but now one has to look for those rare opportunities when an original owner is selling their prized possession - the advent of the online junk dealer is a manifestation of declining American culture, I propose.

Well, you inherited this problem from George Bush.

re: #43 Jimmah

Illuminati favourites New (World) Order - Perfect Kiss

Seconds - The Human League

re: #47 Floral Giraffe

I LIKE that! Is it a quote? If so, from what?
TIA!

Illusions, The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach, the book shimoda read and named himself after a character.

re: #43 Jimmah

Illuminati favourites New (World) Order - Perfect Kiss

[Video]

Tell me you are a Robert Anston Wilson fan also?

Don't forget to upding the thread!
I think Charles tracks these things.
Wouldn't want to loose our "overnighters" now, would we???
:poke:

re: #45 iceweasel

Ludwig, I love your taste in music. I love this song too!

Jimmah and I left you a bunch of tunes on the email thread, btw.

You rock Ice... BTW, if I may ask your gender?

re: #53 ArchangelMichael

Aw hell yeah!
Joy division time now...

re: #56 Silvergirl

DANG!
Can't get it from Charles's Amazon Store...

re: #50 haakondahl

Here's the thing: he is proving many of our *reasonable* fears valid. I feared he would "pack" strange people into ill-defined positions of power. I feared he would try to nationalize health care. I feared he would push the sorts of taxes and penalties on businesses that kill our economy.

I read a very good book, The Case Against Barack Obama. No this is not that one book with all the whacked-out lies and distortions. This is the other one. Hang on... Yeah, the bad book is the Corsi one. This one is by David Freddoso, [Link: www.amazon.com...] and it is a damned good book. It is well-researched and well-written.
I read this book not because I am some sort of raving monster, but because I am a conservative who doesn't like the way this guy (the Senator Obama) talks. Freddoso was right; there are serious things that are plenty disturbing about our President, and now that the election is past we are forced to battle these dumb ideas one at a time.
Having morons like Glenn Beck hitting him with a pie in the face doesn't help me win the debate.

Well ya, of course...proven our reasonable fears to be true, not nutbag ones.

re: #60 iceweasel

Aw hell yeah!
Joy division time now...

Gary Numan - Cars

Woot!

As far as 'giving Obama a chance' goes, he has his chance, as a lowly citizen I have neither the power to give it to him or take it away from him.

Time for me to head to bed. Goodnight, all.

Here's a review of Freddoso's book, posted on the Amazon site. (scroll down for more reviews)
Everything past here is pasted in, BOLDFACE MINE:

Review
Obama a Lefty, Not a Reformer
The first serious negative biography of Senator Barack Obama casts the Democratic nominee as a fake reformer and a real liberal.

The Case Against Barack Obama by National Review's David Freddoso, blasts Obama for failing to take on the Chicago machine, for listening to "radical advisors," and for backing "doctrinaire liberal" causes from teachers unions to abortion rights.
It does not, however, compare him to Paris Hilton, or dwell at length on his religion or race - making the substance of The Case Against Barack Obama sound a bit unfamiliar amid a campaign cacophony of hyperbolic web ads, alleged race cards, and viral smears.

Freddoso says John McCain's campaign and Republicans at large are making the wrong case against the Illinois senator.
"I don't think you beat Obama by saying that he's Paris Hilton," said Freddoso, a reporter for the conservative magazine National Review, referring to McCain's latest advertising campaign. "The more important thing is really to look at is he who he says he is? Is he really this great reformer?"

Freddoso's book, released today by the conservative publishing house Regnery and provided exclusively to Politico by the publisher, occupies a small island in the often-shrill sea of criticism of Obama. As a range of conservatives suggest that Obama is a closet radical, and as McCain's campaign aims to disqualify him from the White House on the grounds of his international fame, Freddoso makes a case that conservatives should look at the presumptive Democratic nominee's record.
His thesis: "It's not that Obama is a bad person. It's just that he's like all the rest of them. Not a reformer. Not a Messiah. Just like all the rest of them in Washington. And just like all the other liberals too."

Freddoso's is one of two new books harshly attacking Obama. The other, by Jerome Corsi, reportedly covers some of the same territory as the viral emails that have plagued the Democratic candidate, making much of his slender connections to Islam and his teenage drug use.
Freddoso opts largely for a fact-based critique, and writes that the viral and overt smears have allowed Obama to evade substantive criticism.

"Too many of those criticizing Obama have been content merely to slander him," he writes. False rumors about Obama's religion and ancestry have produced, Freddoso writes, "an intellectual laziness among the very people who should be carefully scrutinizing Obama."
His book comes with Republican popularity at a historic low, amid widespread disenchantment with Republican ideals of limited government and hawkish foreign policy. Many - including, apparently, McCain's strategists - doubt a Republican can win a policy face-off. But as the real campaign hones in on the character of the candidates, Freddoso's book attempts to build an alternate case against Obama. Freddoso's argument begins in Chicago...Though Obama's first political steps were in Hyde Park's reformist politics, Freddoso focuses on the smooth accommodation he made to the machine...
-- Politico, Ben Smith, August 4, 2008

My current fav tune ever - subject to hourly change...
[Link: www.rhapsody.com...]

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

Time for me to head to bed. Goodnight, all.

Later DF. We'll keep the music down. ;)

re: #65 Dark_Falcon

Time for me to head to bed. Goodnight, all.

sleep well buddy!

re: #59 LudwigVanQuixote

You rock Ice... BTW, if I may ask your gender?

I'm a chick, dude. ;)

(but not an engineer)

re: #55 Gus 802

heh. Let's get ridiculous.

You HADDA be there!
LOL!
Warm leatherette!

re: #70 iceweasel

I'm a chick, dude. ;)

[Video]

(but not an engineer)

I thought so, but it is my experience that women who are mistaken online for men are frequently less offended than men who are mistaken for women. Therefore safer to ask.

re: #34 Floral Giraffe

your wish is my command ms. giraffe

re: #73 LudwigVanQuixote

I thought so, but it is my experience that women who are mistaken online for men are frequently less offended than men who are mistaken for women. Therefore safer to ask.

I'm a German Shepherd. On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

re: #58 Floral Giraffe

Don't forget to upding the thread!
I think Charles tracks these things.
Wouldn't want to loose our "overnighters" now, would we???
:poke:

You know, I rarely remember to ding the thread. I'm not sure of the purpose. I probably should to show which ones were the most fun, but it's sometimes the subject itself and sometimes the interaction within that just happens to make it good.

I'm also ambivalent about dinging Charles for his comments. It's like tipping the owner of an establishment, which isn't really done. Or is it? Maybe I'm stuck in an unenlightened past. I mean if everyone dinged Charles, wouldn't he be in the top ten by himself, daily? Is it kissing up at all? Thoughts?

re: #73 LudwigVanQuixote

LOL!
That is so true!

re: #57 LudwigVanQuixote

Tell me you are a Robert Anston Wilson fan also?

Sorry, not aware of him - I have a feeling I should be though ;-)

re: #75 haakondahl

I'm a German Shepherd. On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

I'm a saudi princess.

I 'm not a fan of the "Give Obama a chance still" bullcrap. I tore Diego a new one last night because of it. Pissed me off.

re: #75 haakondahl

I'm a German Shepherd. On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

I have a biscuit for you...

And some Robert Plant...

Feeling like a bit of uber cool from the 80's

re: #73 LudwigVanQuixote

I thought so, but it is my experience that women who are mistaken online for men are frequently less offended than men who are mistaken for women. Therefore safer to ask.

Oh yeah, that's definitely true. It's also a reasonable assumption in the political blogosphere that the commentariat is mostly male, unless it's a blog devoted to women's issues. LGF has a fairly high percentage of female commenters though, higher (i think) than average. Around 20 -25 percent, IIRC.

More from wannabe skater punk ArchangelMichael's 8th grade collection.

re: #76 Silvergirl

I don't upding Charles very often, but, sometimes he hits my funnybone, just right! I do, make a point to upding great threads. I just KNOW he tracks things, it's what a good seller would do. To find out what his audience likes or doesn't like. Not that it matters to Charles, but I'd bet there's some seekrit researchin' goin' on!

re: #78 Jimmah

Sorry, not aware of him - I have a feeling I should be though ;-)

Oh you should be-- hilarious book on the Illuminati! A series I think but i've only read the one, ages ago...

re: #61 Floral Giraffe

DANG!
Can't get it from Charles's Amazon Store...

If you wanted an indefinite delivery date you could. Out of stock I see.

re: #75 haakondahl

I'm a German Shepherd. On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

re: #76 Silvergirl

I upding Charles because I agree with him. Or he makes a funny. Has nothing to do with ass kissing. I charge for that sort of thing. ;)

A Flock Of Seagulls - I Ran

re: #78 Jimmah

Sorry, not aware of him - I have a feeling I should be though ;-)

He wrote the Illuminatus trilogy and the Shcroedinger's Cat trilogy.

It is dark nerdy humor for history buffs, who like science and conspiracy theories. He is very associated with the Discordians and Subgenius.

To give an idea of his humor,

One of his characters, Markov Cheney, an anarchist dwarf mathematician, has a moment of cosmic clarity where he sees into all the Bohmian parallel realities.

He sees an actress that he has a particular crush on and knows that at any given instant in at least 17,000,000,000 universes she is having sex.

In none of them is it with him.

He decides that the world must end.

Stray Cats - Runaway Boys

I'll be straight up. Anyone links Natalie Merchant gets a ding down from me.

re: #76 Silvergirl

You know, I rarely remember to ding the thread. I'm not sure of the purpose. I probably should to show which ones were the most fun, but it's sometimes the subject itself and sometimes the interaction within that just happens to make it good.

I'm also ambivalent about dinging Charles for his comments. It's like tipping the owner of an establishment, which isn't really done. Or is it? Maybe I'm stuck in an unenlightened past. I mean if everyone dinged Charles, wouldn't he be in the top ten by himself, daily? Is it kissing up at all? Thoughts?

That's where I am. Unless there is something going on which cries out for a vote, I can't see updinging Charles' comments--he owns the place. It does indeed smack of sucking up--I may just be old-fashioned.

re: #85 iceweasel

re: #90 LudwigVanQuixote

Sounds right up my street! I'll be adding him to my reading list forthwith :)

re: #92 Sharmuta

I'll be straight up. Anyone links Natalie Merchant gets a ding down from me.

Oh man... 10,000 maniacs was college for me...

re: #75 haakondahl

I'm a German Shepherd. On the internet, nobody knows you're a dog.

Iggy Pop! I wanna be your dog...

re: #81 LudwigVanQuixote

This is one of my favorites.

re: #74 yochanan

your wish is my command ms. giraffe

Are you here for the spankin'?
LOL!
Thank you!

re: #92 Sharmuta

I'll be straight up. Anyone links Natalie Merchant gets a ding down from me.

Well, I wouldn't mind up-dinging her. Fifteen years ago.

re: #98 Floral Giraffe

Are you here for the spankin'?
LOL!
Thank you!

He's not, but I'm in the LA area!

re: #97 haakondahl

This is one of my favorites.

Yeah that song rocks...

Here's another

re: #100 TheMatrix31

LOL!
You're cute too!

WHACK!

re: #98 Floral Giraffe

Are you here for the spankin'?
LOL!
Thank you!

Gotta love a little late night BDSM references...

re: #62 TheMatrix31

Well ya, of course...proven our reasonable fears to be true, not nutbag ones.

That's wrong. Looking at Obama two years ago, an immediate withdrawal from Iraq, a cut-off of Israeli aid, and an unprecedented raft of gun-control legislation all looked like reasonable possibilities if he were elected president. None of that has happened. ANSWER and Code Pink loved him two years ago, not so much now, if at all. What he has actually done, and not done, as POTUS trumps our speculative musings from last year or year before last, at least they do in the real world.

re: #102 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
You're cute too!

WHACK!

What am I? Chopped Liver spots?

re: #105 haakondahl

What am I? Chopped Liver spots?

I thought you were a German Shepherd.

re: #95 LudwigVanQuixote

Oh man... 10,000 maniacs was college for me...

hell yeah!

Shit, I can't find the Natalie Merchant cover of REM: Don't Go Back to Rockville...

But here's natalie covering patti smith!

Downding me. I can take it, bitches! ;)

re: #106 Sharmuta

I thought you were a German Shepherd.

Woof.

re: #107 iceweasel

Awesome! Now no one can say I never downding you! ;)

re: #107 iceweasel

I loved the Merchant/Stipe cover of To Sir, With Love.

re: #107 iceweasel

Wish I could downding you twice- hate her version of Because the Night. ;)

Cheechako 's #46 has some spectacular photos, truly.

OK for you Fields of the Nephilim fans...

Tangled Up in Blue - Bob Dylan

re: #113 LudwigVanQuixote

Upding for the obscure band I didn't expect anyone here to have ever heard of.

re: #114 Gus 802

Tangled Up in Blue - Bob Dylan

[Video]

Ohhh damn... now you are killing me with awesome.

IMHO, best break up tune ever

next to...

And I love the original Leonard Cohen version too, but that has a totally different feel.

re: #115 ArchangelMichael

Upding for the obscure band I didn't expect anyone here to have ever heard of.

You should check out Hardware... Great movie for all of your distopian cyberpunk needs.

re: #84 Floral Giraffe

I don't upding Charles very often, but, sometimes he hits my funnybone, just right! I do, make a point to upding great threads. I just KNOW he tracks things, it's what a good seller would do. To find out what his audience likes or doesn't like. Not that it matters to Charles, but I'd bet there's some seekrit researchin' goin' on!

I upding loads of people all the time, even if I don't agree with them, if they make me laugh or I think they put things in good way, or if they make me think, or just if they seem to be having a hard day. I probably upding Charles differently in that I ding him less than I would someone else who said the same things.

I've devised the following strategy regarding karma: like LGF it's anti-idiotarian and partakes of all points of view:

Upding like a liberal! Generously, early, and often.
Downding like a fiscal conservative! Prudently, judiciously, with great deliberation.
And treat your own karma like Bush and Obama treat the budget: Don't look at it, think about it, or ask where it came from or where it's going. ;)

Sisters of Mercy - Domitnion

re: #116 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohhh damn... now you are killing me with awesome.

IMHO, best break up tune ever

next to...

And I love the original Leonard Cohen version too, but that has a totally different feel.

He is the troubadour. Was thinking about some Blood on the Tracks next. God I love music.

re: #102 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
You're cute too!

WHACK!

I'm not even into that stuff lol

re: #118 iceweasel

I figure the ratings system was installed for a reason- I ding a lot. Don't really want to get into my criteria, though.

re: #100 TheMatrix31

Just for you!

re: #119 Jimmah

re: #120 Gus 802

If we are going to have the Sisters - Named for L.C. anyway - I wish to beat you to the punch with a fave cover...

Concrete Blonde anyone?

re: #121 TheMatrix31

I'm not even into that stuff lol

But I am... Though I have often felt it is better to give than to receive...

re: #116 LudwigVanQuixote

UPDING! Agree on best breakup song ever!

But I prefer the Buckley cover of Hallelujah...

re: #124 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #120 Gus 802

If we are going to have the Sisters - Named for L.C. anyway - I wish to beat you to the punch with a fave cover...

Concrete Blonde anyone?

Great anthem. Ah those were the days.

re: #121 TheMatrix31

Yeah, right!
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re: #126 iceweasel

Well can't argue with that...

re: #127 Gus 802

Great anthem. Ah those were the days.

OK just a poll, from the music here, I am guessing a lot of us were teens in the eighties... Am I correct?

re: #119 Jimmah

Oh yeah... ;)

We're doing the BDSM songs now? This place gets better all the time...

re: #130 LudwigVanQuixote

OK just a poll, from the music here, I am guessing a lot of us were teens in the eighties... Am I correct?

20s here. Then that is. ;)

I envy all the energy here tonight. I'm fading fast.

I'll listen to ice's hallelujah link since I also love that one, and sail on from there.

re: #123 Floral Giraffe

Just for you!

Hell yeah!

re: #126 iceweasel

NO!
The best break up song evah!

Used it meself!
LOL!

re: #131 iceweasel

Oh yeah... ;)

We're doing the BDSM songs now? This place gets better all the time...

[Video]

A little newer in that vein. If I was still a DJ, I'd spin this every time.

re: #130 LudwigVanQuixote

OK just a poll, from the music here, I am guessing a lot of us were teens in the eighties... Am I correct?

I might as well have been.

No one ever plays the Moody Blues!

re: #131 iceweasel

OH hell yeah!

Now back in the day, you have to imagine a young Ludwig with big cloppy boots a big spiky leather jacket and diving into a mosh pit to NIN.

Then continuing the theme I grew up a bit and discovered other uses for leather...

There just isn't a poseur like Billy Idol!
Love that sneer.
Tee Hee.
Wanna bet he's a Mamma's boy?

re: #135 Floral Giraffe

NO!
The best break up song evah!

[Video]

Used it meself!
LOL!

Oh hell yeah...

I knew a girl who broke up with a guy and sent him a tape of...

re: #141 LudwigVanQuixote

I never made a break up tape, but I did once break a tape of a musician I dated. Does that count?

re: #138 Sharmuta

No one ever plays the Moody Blues!

[Video]

It may be cliche but I am all about Days of Future Past...

re: #130 LudwigVanQuixote

OK just a poll, from the music here, I am guessing a lot of us were teens in the eighties... Am I correct?

I turned 13 in 1987, so sort of.

One of the best love songs ever--

re: #144 ArchangelMichael

I turned 13 in 1987, so sort of.

Sure does...

Let's put it this way... I graduated HS in 89

re: #143 LudwigVanQuixote

This is cliché, but I still love it.

re: #145 TheMatrix31

One of the best love songs ever--

[Video]

College all over!

re: #147 Sharmuta

As well you should!

re: #67 LudwigVanQuixote

Good morning everyone. As my first official act tonight I had the pleasure of upding LudwigVan for mentioning Gordon Lightfoot's Sundown. I saw Gordon at Frost Amphitheater in May 1974 while he was on the Sundown tour.

Peter Murphy - Strange Kind Of Love

Redux -- still love this song.

re: #60 iceweasel

Aw hell yeah!
Joy division time now...

[Video]

Holy crap, this place is better than the club.

I dyed my hair black and burgundy today. The current political climate is at least making me feel more goth again.

//There's gotta be a bright side, right. right?

I also love this --

Has this one made the rounds here yet ?
Kennedy memoir reveals remorse over Chappaquiddick

Nothing to say here really - it's certainly not unusual or surprising for the N.Y.T.'s to get advanced copies of any book. Especially when the subject matter of a particular book may add to the public discourse concerning a recent historical event. Just in case yer wonderin' (but aren't inclined to visit the 'link') - he was sorry. I would think not particularly news worthy but ...well, I mean, what was the rush ?? Reads like breaking news.

/ just sayin'

re: #152 ~Fianna

Holy crap, this place is better than the club.

I dyed my hair black and burgundy today. The current political climate is at least making me feel more goth again.

//There's gotta be a bright side, right. right?

It is unfair that the women here are so cool and so far away and that I am so taken...

re: #139 LudwigVanQuixote

OH hell yeah!

Now back in the day, you have to imagine a young Ludwig with big cloppy boots a big spiky leather jacket and diving into a mosh pit to NIN.

Then continuing the theme I grew up a bit and discovered other uses for leather...

Hey, I think we might know each other! Or shop at the same places...

re: #70 iceweasel

I'm a chick, dude. ;)

(but not an engineer)

chick here too... and I am an engineer.

re: #152 ~Fianna

Well I never stopped dying my hair black or wearing the clothes 99% of the time anyway. Since I finished school I have these huge gaps of time with nothing to do so I started "hanging out" with that crowd again. People keep hinting they want me to guest DJ but it's been so long I cant even remember how to operate any of the equipment.

re: #156 iceweasel

Hey, I think we might know each other! Or shop at the same places...

I am very much starting to suspect that.

re: #158 ArchangelMichael

That and I was never a goth... I was/am a rivet.

re: #88 Sharmuta

I upding Charles because I agree with him. Or he makes a funny. Has nothing to do with ass kissing. I charge for that sort of thing. ;)

I upding Charles when I figure he's going to get a lot of hate mail.

OK, this was my mosh pit anthem...

re: #148 LudwigVanQuixote

HELL YES!

Push the button! The shiny, candy-like button!

Wow, this is freaky weird...I was looking for that clip just yesterday to post here.

re: #150 BatGuano

Good morning everyone. As my first official act tonight I had the pleasure of upding LudwigVan for mentioning Gordon Lightfoot's Sundown. I saw Gordon at Frost Amphitheater in May 1974 while he was on the Sundown tour.

Thank you.

re: #111 Sharmuta

Wish I could downding you twice- hate her version of Because the Night. ;)

That song always reminds me of a particularly overwrought late-adolescent night of uber-angst about a guy whose name I can't even remember now.

Chung King - Stay Up Forever

I'm teaching my sisters HEATHEN children about good design & why it's important. Not that you're heathens! LOL! But you might enjoy this!

Charles & Ray Eames were amazing!

re: #165 ~Fianna

That song always reminds me of a particularly overwrought late-adolescent night of uber-angst about a guy whose name I can't even remember now.

Well put.

re: #159 LudwigVanQuixote

I am very much starting to suspect that.

So, do you think it is better to give or to receive?

re: #113 LudwigVanQuixote

OK for you Fields of the Nephilim fans...

Did you know I was coming?

re: #115 ArchangelMichael

Upding for the obscure band I didn't expect anyone here to have ever heard of.

I

re: #170 ~Fianna

Did you know I was coming?

Nope, but I figured that some Hardware was in order... Glad to have you Fianna!

re: #116 LudwigVanQuixote

Ohhh damn... now you are killing me with awesome.

IMHO, best break up tune ever

[Video]And I love the original Leonard Cohen version too, but that has a totally different feel.

We saw him a few months ago when he was in LA. He still puts on a kick-ass show. First We Take Manhattan live was transcendent.

re: #162 LudwigVanQuixote

!!!

Whoa, we need that PM function here...

Yeah, I love that song. I want to say stuff about a band I was in now, but don't want to post it here. I have a story for you though, when and if we get that PM function!

re: #135 Floral Giraffe

I was always partial to this one - toin it up !!

More Moody Blues

re: #124 LudwigVanQuixote

re: #120 Gus 802

If we are going to have the Sisters - Named for L.C. anyway - I wish to beat you to the punch with a fave cover...

Concrete Blonde anyone?

That's such a beautiful video. So it this one... cheesy, yes, but still a song with lots of good memories:

re: #174 iceweasel

!!!

Whoa, we need that PM function here...

Yeah, I love that song. I want to say stuff about a band I was in now, but don't want to post it here. I have a story for you though, when and if we get that PM function!

PM function? Sorry brain addled late...

But here is some Punk Rock Heaven Mary Prankster...

re: #175 leftover54

LOL!
A MILLION UPDINGS!
LOVE IT!

(and, UM, you should go, if you have to ask...)

re: #147 Sharmuta

Bought my 1st flute just to play this solo. Never quite got the 'Hayward' sound down though (vocal) ...

OK so we now have definitive evidence that LIzards are way way cool with mega cool taste.

re: #174 iceweasel

I would like to hear that story as well.
{{IW}}

re: #166 Jimmah

Chung King - Stay Up Forever

[Video]

Cardigans: No Sleep

re: #136 ArchangelMichael

Another one like that... [x]-Rx

re: #181 LudwigVanQuixote

You needed evidence?

WHACK!

re: #179 Floral Giraffe

Yes, I really should - its 4am here and I have NO idea why I'm still awake !

My friend IMed me for help arguing with his GF's idiotic sister regarding 9/11 being a conspiracy. He really doesn't need help, but I mean, people still believe this shit?!

re: #136 ArchangelMichael

A little newer in that vein. If I was still a DJ, I'd spin this every time.

Can't do bondage songs without London After Midnight. The Bondage Song is better, but this is the good quality video You Tube had

I also love music videos that are parodies. My favorite is 'Sabotage' by The Beastie Boys, but my second favorite music video parody is this from Ben Folds:

re: #187 TheMatrix31

Have him lookup the "Loose Change 2.0 Viewers' Guide". I can't remember the URL off the top of my head but it EVISCERATES troof.

re: #168 Sharmuta

Well put.

And I'm embarrassed to admit that was a personal experience story.

Aaah, being 17 when every.damn.thing. is the END of the WORLD!!!111!!!

re: #186 leftover54

Upding, for staying awake?
Hell, yes.
There's worse reasons!

Heads off to bed.
Sleepy time, here.

G'night oh, fun ones!

re: #144 ArchangelMichael

I turned 13 in 1987, so sort of.

I was 12. But I was sneaking in to clubs.

NYC in the 80s wasn't particular about the whole ID thing... Except for Mother. They'd never let me in.

re: #191 ~Fianna

17 or Glenn Beck.

ok how does one blue a nic to receive mail - it's been a while

re: #148 LudwigVanQuixote

College all over!

I love you.

Oh man...what the hells wrong with me ?? the BEST break up song:

...when you turn and walk away, don't look back...

re: #182 Floral Giraffe

I would like to hear that story as well.
{{IW}}

You'd get it, baby, for sure

. { FG}

re: #178 LudwigVanQuixote

PM function? Sorry brain addled late...

But here is some Punk Rock Heaven Mary Prankster...

[Video]

PM = private messaging. Charles was asking us if we wanted it...

Yeah Yeah Yeah's covering Ramones: Sheena is a Punk Rocker

And then Ice can mail me the story and Sharm and I can have that talk etc..

re: #195 LudwigVanQuixote

Above the comment form is a spot for email and a web site. On te right of the email line is "show email". Click that.

re: #199 LudwigVanQuixote

And then Ice can mail me the story and Sharm and I can have that talk etc..

Sooo want to talk! Will email you in the morning.

re: #196 ~Fianna

I love you.

I have been known to grow on people...

:) Thanks!

Or even "on the right".

re: #155 LudwigVanQuixote

It is unfair that the women here are so cool and so far away and that I am so taken...

I wish there were more cool people locally. I love you guys, but it's not like we can all get drinks and hang out.

LGF Convention in Vegas!!!

re: #193 ~Fianna

I was 12. But I was sneaking in to clubs.

NYC in the 80s wasn't particular about the whole ID thing... Except for Mother. They'd never let me in.

I didn't go to clubs until I was 25. In fact except for on my 21st birthday in Vegas, I never even went to a bar or drank alcohol until I was 23. Late start I guess.

re: #183 iceweasel

Cardigans: No Sleep

Jeff Buckley and Elizabeth Frazer - All Flowers In Time Bend Towards The Sun

re: #204 ~Fianna

I wish there were more cool people locally. I love you guys, but it's not like we can all get drinks and hang out.

LGF Convention in Vegas!!!

Cool! You have room for all of us to crash at your place, right?

re: #190 ArchangelMichael

Have him lookup the "Loose Change 2.0 Viewers' Guide". I can't remember the URL off the top of my head but it EVISCERATES troof.

Hmm...I'm having a hard time finding that

re: #198 iceweasel

I went into the hospital singing this.
Surgeon was NOT happy at my plastic spoon/jello response!
LOL!
Never saw green jello again!

re: #208 TheMatrix31

Hmm...I'm having a hard time finding that

NatGeo had a special Monday night. Look there.

re: #158 ArchangelMichael

Well I never stopped dying my hair black or wearing the clothes 99% of the time anyway. Since I finished school I have these huge gaps of time with nothing to do so I started "hanging out" with that crowd again. People keep hinting they want me to guest DJ but it's been so long I cant even remember how to operate any of the equipment.

It's like riding a bike.

Do you go to any of the national events? I tend to find things like Convergence more fun than the local night... Our scene here is kinda sad and I'm so out of the loop and busy with work and school that I don't have time to do anything about it.

I'm still noticably goth, but I work in a VERY conservative field with a lot of really conservative clients, so I usually tone it down.

since i've been working from home, and I figure that if I get called in to go to one of the offices, I can throw on a cap and no one will notice, I figured what the heck.

I was up at the office today to help stuff envelopes for a fundraising event, and everyone I work with loved it.

Good call on the Lightfoot. Downloaded a bunch of MP3s from Amazon.

OK I believe that I am blue and I am online the mail account for those who wish to drop me a line.

re: #160 ArchangelMichael

That and I was never a goth... I was/am a rivet.

Close enough. Bachman would consider us blood brothers, so it's all good.

re: #192 Floral Giraffe

G'night !

Actually mail to this account.. it was briefly coming up with the wrong one.

re: #209 Floral Giraffe

You rock, FG. I love you!
I was in a band that used to cover that...LOVE that song!

Was tempted to post "The KKK took my baby away" as responses in some threads here when people claim racism isnt a factor in some ODS, heh.

re: #169 LudwigVanQuixote

So, do you think it is better to give or to receive?

receive.

re: #214 ~Fianna

Close enough. Bachman would consider us blood brothers, so it's all good.

LOL... She probably would consider us to be heathen pagan satan worshipping commies on sight as well.

re: #169 LudwigVanQuixote

So, do you think it is better to give or to receive?

I'm flexible. Receive, and top from below. ;)

He's also looking for a simple list of Obama fuckups, and I told him there's not enough time in the world. Could a list like that even EXIST?

re: #220 iceweasel

I'm flexible. Receive, and top from below. ;)

All this stuff is getting me hot and bothered!

I sit here listening to the rain squalls passing through.

The moonlight makes no sound, thundering its brightness in silence, harassing the passing clouds, silvering their fleeing edges.

Autumn whispers in the breeze.

re: #198 iceweasel

PM = private messaging. Charles was asking us if we wanted it...

Yeah Yeah Yeah's covering Ramones: Sheena is a Punk Rocker

[Video]

Third me for hearing that story. PM would be a nifty feature.

re: #216 ludwigvanquixote

Actually mail to this account.. it was briefly coming up with the wrong one.

Going to try a test email now.

re: #209 Floral Giraffe

Seriously, I was thrown out of a hospital for participating in a plastic spoon/jello fight. And yes, I was a patient - recovering from surgery !! Freakin' Demerol got me every time ! Called my parents at 1am and told them I had to go...
no sh*t !!

The Ramones - Judy Is a Punk

re: #205 ArchangelMichael

I didn't go to clubs until I was 25. In fact except for on my 21st birthday in Vegas, I never even went to a bar or drank alcohol until I was 23. Late start I guess.

I was a "difficult" child. :)

//who grew in to a "difficult" adult, for that matter.

Since there are a few Lightfoot fans here, this is a song about a complete a**hole, written and performed by GL. Note the last verse, especially.

re: #218 ~Fianna

Oooo...and I just love to give...'til it hoits ...

re: #222 TheMatrix31

All this stuff is getting me hot and bothered!

Here...watch this - this'll cool you down ;-)

re: #220 iceweasel

re: #218 ~Fianna

I believe that I was saying that it is so very unfair that the ladies here are so far away and so very cool and that I am so currently taken.. Let's just say that I am quite generous.

It's getting kinky in here.

re: #206 Jimmah

Cardigans again. And the lyrics fit with our domitnion theme here...

re: #223 Syrah

I sit here listening to the rain squalls passing through.

The moonlight makes no sound, thundering its brightness in silence, harassing the passing clouds, silvering their fleeing edges.

Autumn whispers in the breeze.

Good, I can't wait for autumn rain, leaves changing, cooler weather, FOOTBALL, and early darkness!

re: #207 Sharmuta

Cool! You have room for all of us to crash at your place, right?

My husband would be quite surprised... and probably rather scared. He's liberaler than I am.

I'm in that difficult position where my conservative friends think I'm a Raving Pinko Commie Lefitst Nutcase and my liberal friends think I'm a Conservative Fascist Pig.

I think they're all crazy and not thinking things through.

We've mostly stopped talking about it.

re: #225 Sharmuta

Going to try a test email now.

My safari crashed a moment try again

And also any who wish to say hello, please do so now. The last time my nic was blue I got a lot of very entertaining anti AGW mail.

re: #228 ~Fianna

Favorite 'party' response overheard July 4th 1983:

"Hey man, when did the party start ?"

"About 1967..."

re: #236 ~Fianna

I'm in that difficult position where my conservative friends think I'm a Raving Pinko Commie Lefitst Nutcase and my liberal friends think I'm a Conservative Fascist Pig.

lolcats would say: ur doin it rite!

The Ramones - Blitzkreig Bop

re: #237 LudwigVanQuixote

Should be there.

re: #211 ~Fianna

It's like riding a bike.

Do you go to any of the national events? I tend to find things like Convergence more fun than the local night... Our scene here is kinda sad and I'm so out of the loop and busy with work and school that I don't have time to do anything about it.

I'm still noticably goth, but I work in a VERY conservative field with a lot of really conservative clients, so I usually tone it down.

since i've been working from home, and I figure that if I get called in to go to one of the offices, I can throw on a cap and no one will notice, I figured what the heck.

I was up at the office today to help stuff envelopes for a fundraising event, and everyone I work with loved it.

I never went to the big events. I don't like flying and I can take a crowd for a few hours but longer than that drives me nuts. (I stopped going to the ComicCon because I'd get panic attacks in crowds like that.)

The biggest operation I've ever been involved in outside of town was to drive a whole crowd up to LA in 2000 and go to 2 clubs in a row... I slept in my car in front of the FOX studios where MadTV was filmed. It was my 26th birthday too. I will never sleep in my car on my birthday again... EVAR.

As far as looks. I can get away with pretty much anything at work. If they want me to meet with someone or a customer or something, they give me at least a day or two notice to dress appropriately. Usually I'm tucked in the back of the office in my cave, writing code and monitoring servers.

re: #239 Sharmuta

always keep 'em guessin'...

re: #233 Sharmuta

It's getting kinky in here.

Yeah, and I'm out. But do drop a line. Look up.

re: #241 Sharmuta

Should be there.

mailed you back.

re: #244 haakondahl

Last time I tried, it failed, and I was not happy. Will try again.

Night me buckos!

re: #247 Gus 802

Good night, Gus.

re: #216 ludwigvanquixote

Actually mail to this account.. it was briefly coming up with the wrong one.

Figures that I couldn't follow directions :)

re: #231 Jimmah

Try watching it with the volume turned down...
mmm...

re: #219 ArchangelMichael

LOL... She probably would consider us to be heathen pagan satan worshipping commies on sight as well.

Cool. I love being judged by my looks.
///

ZZZzzz...
G'night Chet...
G'night David.

re: #230 leftover54

Oooo...and I just love to give...'til it hoits ...

Charles must read these overnight threads and wonder what he's done.