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1 Adrenalyn  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:09:26pm

can't be true

2 Randall Gross  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:09:46pm

I'd love to hang around for this thread, but I've got a date with my wife.

3 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:11:02pm

Thank you Laura Bush for being an outstanding First Lady.

4 shug  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:11:11pm

It's like a person is a raving lunatic. Hysterical.
And then somebody slaps them across the face and they snap out if it.

nobody better to give that slap than the First lady

5 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:11:37pm

RINO!

6 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:12:12pm

Great! Who is going to talk the left down off their ledge now?

7 Adrenalyn  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:12:28pm

re: #5 karmic_inquisitor

RINO!

well, I don't know whether to laugh or cry

she was never elected to anything

8 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:12:53pm

It's not sad or strange. Laura Bush is a teacher and has always been a big believer in reaching out to students... her theme for the eight years was literacy.
She's also a lady, and won't say anything bad about a sitting president or diss her predecessor. Too bad she won't be shown the same courtesy by the Dems.

(Charles... that Goth Scene dating ad is...scary)

9 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:13:37pm

And look at what's happening here.

We actually have people dissing the First Lady.

At LGF.

10 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:13:43pm

re: #7 Adrenalyn

No, but she is a calm, rational person. And conservatives need to listen to someone like that right now.

11 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:14:34pm

re: #3 experiencedtraveller
I miss her, even if she didn't ever thrill us with short shorts on the lawn.
At least she didn't drag Van Jones types into the WH, like Michelle.

12 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:14:52pm

I've always liked Laura Bush. She has this very calming way about her.

I'm glad she spoke up on this and other issues in this segment.

13 ryannon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:15:09pm

Always a class act.

14 blangwort  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:15:49pm

Laura Bush would probably make a better president than Hillary Clinton.

I know, that's not saying much...

15 MacDuff  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:15:49pm

Laura Bush has always been a class act, and she still is. Say what you want about W, but he married well.

16 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:15:51pm

Laura Bush has loads of class, no doubt about it.

17 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:16:27pm

re: #12 Gus 802

She even put up with Dubya's drunken rages in the WH... now that takes some steel.
/according to the Enquirer and DU/

18 sneezey  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:16:59pm

She is a classy lady.

19 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:17:00pm

re: #17 tradewind

She even put up with Dubya's drunken rages in the WH... now that takes some steel.
/according to the Enquirer and DU/

Did he toss any lamps?

20 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:17:22pm

re: #14 blangwort

Laura Bush would probably make a better president than Hillary Clinton.

I know, that's not saying much...

Bill Clinton made a better president than Hillary.
Carter? Maybe not.

21 Adrenalyn  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:17:26pm

re: #7 Adrenalyn

well, I don't know whether to laugh or cry

she was never elected to anything

ok, I don't get it Charles
someone calls the ex first lady a RINO
and I speak up against it

yet I get the downding ?

I am assuming the poster had meant to insert a sarc tag
hence my "humorous" reply

22 Racer X  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:17:39pm

When Democrats were not sitting in the white house they were mad, and many on the left went lunatic. Now we see the reverse. Many on the right are mad that Obama is the prez, and they are getting downright scary lunatic.

Get over it, get a plan, stick to your principles and win people over with facts.

23 BignJames  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:17:58pm

re: #17 tradewind

She even put up with Dubya's drunken rages in the WH... now that takes some steel.
/according to the Enquirer and DU/

Where was she during the "Pretzel Incident"...hmmm?

24 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:18:06pm

Laura Bush is a class act.

25 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:18:08pm

re: #19 Desert Dog

I don't know, but we do know from reputable sources that she left him at least twenty times while he was passed out in the Oval.
/please don't tell me you need the sarc tag here/

26 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:18:55pm

re: #23 BignJames

/Holding a pillow over his head/

27 Mich-again  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:19:33pm

Laura said..

Part of the reason for the polarization, she said, was the increase in the number of congressional districts dominated by either strongly conservative or liberal voters.

Isn't gerrymandering supposed to prevent that? Carve up the districts so your side has some minimum advantage in as many districts as possible to win the most seats possible, and not to waste all those votes in just one district.

28 Racer X  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:19:46pm

A few months ago I read an article about how gracious she was in the transition to the Obamas moving in to the white house. Class act all the way.

29 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:20:11pm

re: #22 Racer X

When Democrats were not sitting in the white house they were mad, and many on the left went lunatic. Now we see the reverse. Many on the right are mad that Obama is the prez, and they are getting downright scary lunatic.

Get over it, get a plan, stick to your principles and win people over with facts.

The problem with that is such an approach takes discipline. People like Glen Beck and Ron Paul would much prefer to just spout inane babble. They garner loyal followers and they don't have any real accountability. Buffoons.

30 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:20:12pm

re: #25 tradewind

I don't know, but we do know from reputable sources that she left him at least twenty times while he was passed out in the Oval.
/please don't tell me you need the sarc tag here/

It would drive me to drink too, chasing all them evil doers!

31 Mich-again  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:20:36pm

re: #28 Racer X

Class act all the way.

Exactly.

32 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:20:54pm

re: #28 Racer X

A few months ago I read an article about how gracious she was in the transition to the Obamas moving in to the white house. Class act all the way.

GWB was good as well. Better than the example set when they moved in.

33 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:20:58pm

re: #14 blangwort

Laura Bush would probably make a better president than Hillary Clinton.

I know, that's not saying much...

Well Al Qaeda's franchisee in Somalia came close to murdering Hillary last month.

[Link: www.theaustralian.news.com.au...]

She gets a little more respect from me for sticking out the trip. And anyone who antagonizes AQ enough to get them to run an operation to kill her gets support from me.

I sure wish we could go back to where partisanship stopped at our shorelines.

34 mikalm  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:22:18pm

re: #9 Charles

And look at what's happening here.

We actually have people dissing the First Lady.

At LGF.

Where?

35 MacDuff  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:22:20pm

re: #21 Adrenalyn

Well, if you have to explain a joke, it's clearly not funny.

36 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:22:29pm

I LOVE YOU, LAURA!

37 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:23:09pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

The problem with that is such an approach takes discipline. People like Glen Beck and Ron Paul would much prefer to just spout inane babble. They garner loyal followers and they don't have any real accountability. Buffoons.

How much actual clout does Glenn Beck or Ron Paul actually have in the Republican party? Both have their frothy supporters, but do they really set the agenda of the entire party? If they do, I will be the first to leave. I think they do not have much actual power at all. They are simply the ones screaming the loudest.

38 Adrenalyn  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:23:25pm

re: #35 MacDuff

Well, if you have to explain a joke, it's clearly not funny.

ok, so tell me
is it a good thing she was called a RINO in the first place by another poster ?

39 Van Helsing  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:23:26pm

re: #6 Desert Dog

Great! Who is going to talk the left down off their ledge now?

Why would you want to?
/kidding - it was waist high, over the plate

40 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:23:43pm

re: #21 Adrenalyn

ok, I don't get it Charles
someone calls the ex first lady a RINO
and I speak up against it

yet I get the downding ?

I am assuming the poster had meant to insert a sarc tag
hence my "humorous" reply

Then that is my fault.

On any of these threads that have someone in the Republican party going against the SoCon Kool Aide Party, I will post "RINO!" in an ongoing sarcastic bit. I'e been doing it for some months and stopped using the sarc tag, which I will start using again.

Please accept my apologies.

41 Adrenalyn  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:24:48pm

re: #40 karmic_inquisitor

Then that is my fault.

On any of these threads that have someone in the Republican party going against the SoCon Kool Aide Party, I will post "RINO!" in an ongoing sarcastic bit. I'e been doing it for some months and stopped using the sarc tag, which I will start using again.

Please accept my apologies.

hey, no worry - no need to apologize
I am thick skinned
and often mistaken
for my intensions

I type fast, think slow
maybe I should copyright that...?

42 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:25:14pm

re: #22 Racer X

Those on the right who ' are mad Obama is President' will just have to get over themselves. His real problem is that there are a lot of conservatives who desperately wanted (and still want ) for him to do well, and hoped against hope that he would not do what he has done, which is pull a bait and switch.
He is my president, for better or worse, so I hope it's for better. Not every Republican wants him to fail. Hoping he doesn't get some of his more radical programs shoved through is not hoping that he is a personal failure.
I am finding this whole school speech thing a huge distraction from more serious problems, and actually, that is probably just fine with Axelrod and Rahmbo.

43 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:26:07pm

re: #32 Desert Dog

Left the O's on the keyboards, did they?
:)

44 [deleted]  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:27:19pm
45 MacDuff  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:28:29pm

re: #38 Adrenalyn
I wouldn't take it personally and just move on.

46 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:28:38pm

re: #37 Desert Dog

How much actual clout does Glenn Beck or Ron Paul actually have in the Republican party? Both have their frothy supporters, but do they really set the agenda of the entire party? If they do, I will be the first to leave. I think they do not have much actual power at all. They are simply the ones screaming the loudest.

The problem is that the official party organs haven't done anything of note since the election. There has been not party strategy,and people like Beck have stepped in to fill the gap. With Congress back in session this week, the GOP leadership needs to step in and take charge. Now is the time to inject some sanity into the party. Thank you, Laura for helping with that process.

47 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:29:51pm

re: #42 tradewind

Those on the right who ' are mad Obama is President' will just have to get over themselves. His real problem is that there are a lot of conservatives who desperately wanted (and still want ) for him to do well, and hoped against hope that he would not do what he has done, which is pull a bait and switch.
He is my president, for better or worse, so I hope it's for better. Not every Republican wants him to fail. Hoping he doesn't get some of his more radical programs shoved through is not hoping that he is a personal failure.
I am finding this whole school speech thing a huge distraction from more serious problems, and actually, that is probably just fine with Axelrod and Rahmbo.

I want the USA to succeed. I want our economy to get better and I want everyone to do well. I just think that President Obama is taking us down the wrong road. I hope his plans for healthcare do not make it. I hope Cap and Trade is dropped for something better. I hope he reconsiders his stance on many issues.

It does not mean I hate him. But to say I should wish him success is not my duty. I do hope he gets it right, no matter what the problem is.

48 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:30:29pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

The problem is that the official party organs haven't done anything of note since the election. There has been not party strategy,and people like Beck have stepped in to fill the gap. With Congress back in session this week, the GOP leadership needs to step in and take charge. Now is the time to inject some sanity into the party. Thank you, Laura for helping with that process.

100% in agreement there, brother.

49 Racer X  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:30:43pm

re: #47 Desert Dog

I want the USA to succeed. I want our economy to get better and I want everyone to do well. I just think that President Obama is taking us down the wrong road. I hope his plans for healthcare do not make it. I hope Cap and Trade is dropped for something better. I hope he reconsiders his stance on many issues.

It does not mean I hate him. But to say I should wish him success is not my duty. I do hope he gets it right, no matter what the problem is.

Well said.

50 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:30:53pm

re: #44 cowbellallen

None in the Bush family have ever really been conservative enough for me


Not even Jeb?
You're in for a tough political season, I'm afraid.

51 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:31:08pm

re: #37 Desert Dog

"Frothy supporters". I love it! Reminds me of foam-flecked fiends.

52 mikalm  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:32:10pm

re: #51 MandyManners

foam-flecked fiends.

I'm going to steal that line, and BBL.

53 MacDuff  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:32:20pm

re: #40 karmic_inquisitor

No harm no foul. I do think it's refreshing the way people instictively defend Laura Bush; she has good karma.

54 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:32:28pm

re: #51 MandyManners

"Frothy supporters". I love it! Reminds me of foam-flecked fiends.

Frothy, one notch above wildeyed

55 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:32:33pm

re: #44 cowbellallen

Won't you please bite me?

56 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:33:24pm

Sure enough. We actually do have people showing up who think Laura Bush is a RINO.

57 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:33:30pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

I think the Republicans are going to have to co-opt the old slogan ' I'm not a member of any organized political party... I'm a democrat '. It's starting to apply.
That's always been one of my big problems with the democrats... they are such a motley cabal of special interest groups, each insisting on special treatment. I hate to see the Republican party end up the same sorry way.

58 Ziggy  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:33:41pm

I shouldn't start because it's past my bed time and the misses is probably done waiting for me, but...the problem, for me at least, wasn't the speech. It was the learning activities that were wrapped around it. The speech is fine and not inappropriate (albeit a bit self centered and at times dwelled on the negative). What on gods green earth were they thinking with that? Oh, that's right, they weren't thinking.

59 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:34:08pm
60 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:34:33pm

Well, Laura wasn't nearly controversial enough, or full of venom. Doubtful being classy and polite and knowing when not to say too much to the point of behaving bitterly will serve as an example.

But it should.

61 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:35:40pm

Who flounced? That was fast...

62 Ziggy  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:36:12pm

BTW, I always thought she had more class than all of Washington put together.

63 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:37:37pm

re: #59 MandyManners

I'm getting flashes of a karaoke bar at a bachelorette party that went bad...
:)

64 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:37:42pm

Laura Bush would make a very fine President.

65 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:38:11pm

re: #58 Ziggy

Off topic comments, and they're going over ground already covered. Moreover said comments were without insight and snarky. I give that post a 2 out of 10.

66 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:38:42pm

re: #46 Dark_Falcon

The problem is that the official party organs haven't done anything of note since the election. There has been not party strategy,and people like Beck have stepped in to fill the gap. With Congress back in session this week, the GOP leadership needs to step in and take charge. Now is the time to inject some sanity into the party. Thank you, Laura for helping with that process.

In that case we would have to look at the current GOP leadership: Sen. Mitch McConnell -- Senate Minority Leader and Rep. John Boehner -- House Minority Leader. Boehner has tendency to hold back in press conferences while McConnell tend to mumble (he also is no stranger to adding pork).

They return tomorrow and even though I can't really tell the GOP what to do they should at least take Laura Bush's lead in this matter. She strikes a good balance in this issue. Otherwise, the official GOP has been somewhat silent on this issue which is a good thing. Otherwise, the de facto "leadership" coming from the "conservative" pundits has been counterproductive.

67 MacDuff  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:39:43pm

re: #58 Ziggy

Huh? Were there learning activities connected with Laura Bush's remarks (the subject of the thread). Oh, I get it you're still talking about Obama.

You need to turn around and go back a couple of threads. Drive carefully, and don't take any more wrong turns, that AGW neighborhood can be rough sometimes.

68 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:40:19pm

re: #61 tradewind

Who flounced? That was fast...

The troll called itself cowbellallen. In his honor:

69 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:41:55pm

Not to blow the LGF horn too much, but I'm kind of amazed at how much traffic we're getting over Labor Day weekend. We're already over 100,000 pageviews for the day -- on Labor Day.

We've never had that much traffic over a major holiday weekend before.

70 Ziggy  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:42:41pm

re: #67 MacDuff
Perhaps I missed something. I just don't have it in me to try and explain what I meant. Obviously way past time to sign off and sleep.

71 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:42:44pm

re: #61 tradewind

Who flounced? That was fast...

It was a "Bush was never really a conservative ..." post.

You know - Bush the Stem cell loving abortionist/evolutionist who did everything he could to keep God out of government.

/ <---

72 [deleted]  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:43:32pm
73 Ziggy  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:43:47pm

re: #69 Charles

Not to blow the LGF horn too much, but I'm kind of amazed at how much traffic we're getting over Labor Day weekend. We're already over 100,000 pageviews for the day -- on Labor Day.

We've never had that much traffic over a major holiday weekend before.

Mazel Tov (and that's not sarcastic).
Good night all.

74 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:43:57pm

re: #69 Charles

Seems contrary to the obscurity your detractors have attributed to LGF. Odd, that. (Felix the Cat laugh follows.)

They wish.

75 avanti  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:44:02pm

Not a fan of Bush's politics, but respected his love of country and his class. This is my favorite image of him, his face says it all for me.

Bush.

76 ArmyWife  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:44:07pm

re: #22 Racer X

Now there is a thought! M. Steele, have your listening ears on???

77 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:44:14pm
"Part of the reason for the polarization, she said, was the increase in the number of congressional districts dominated by either strongly conservative or liberal voters."
- Laura Bush

*blink*

78 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:44:46pm

re: #72 livetotell

You're too clever for words... which I suspect you will not have many more of.

79 jaunte  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:44:57pm

re: #72 livetotell

Whose little sock are you?

80 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:45:05pm

The jerks are showing up early in this thread.

81 ArmyWife  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:45:23pm

re: #64 The Shadow Do

She is WAY too smart for wanting that!

82 shug  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:45:32pm

More Birther Madness. Now this reporter faces jail time.

A legal affidavit that declares Lucas Smith (American from Iowa) to be of sound mind and judgment.

Will this madness ever go away?

The high resolution of his madness

Look at the comments?
These people are clinically insane

83 MacDuff  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:45:32pm

re: #70 Ziggy

Perhaps I missed something. I just don't have it in me to try and explain what I meant. Obviously way past time to sign off and sleep.

I understand, perhaps too much stardust, Ziggy. It happens.

84 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:46:11pm

re: #69 Charles

Not to blow the LGF horn too much, but I'm kind of amazed at how much traffic we're getting over Labor Day weekend. We're already over 100,000 pageviews for the day -- on Labor Day.

We've never had that much traffic over a major holiday weekend before.

Maybe people need an anti-dote the the insanity elsewhere.

85 Racer X  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:46:18pm
86 shug  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:46:19pm

Did livetotell live to tell?

fraid not

87 Ziggy  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:46:35pm

re: #83 MacDuff

I understand, perhaps too much stardust, Ziggy. It happens.

Glad you understand

88 shug  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:46:55pm

re: #69 Charles

Not to blow the LGF horn too much, but I'm kind of amazed at how much traffic we're getting over Labor Day weekend. We're already over 100,000 pageviews for the day -- on Labor Day.

We've never had that much traffic over a major holiday weekend before.


Not bad for being doomed

89 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:47:03pm

No. 72 was livetotell.

Well, not it didn't. Here, any way.

90 jaunte  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:47:11pm

I never though Laura Bush could generate such controversy.

91 solomonpanting  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:48:15pm

Mrs. Bush gets in a backhand slap at Jimmy Carter. Well deserved, too.

92 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:49:08pm

re: #89 MandyManners

No. 72 was livetotell.

Well, not it didn't. Here, any way.

Just wait a few minutes. It'll be telling all on the stalker blog.

93 MacDuff  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:49:18pm

re: #90 jaunte

I never though Laura Bush could generate such controversy.

Laura doesn't generate controversy, assholes do.

94 gymmom  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:49:43pm

I always thought Laura Bush's "handlers" during the campaign must have LOVED her. She is a naturally gracious lady and isn't going to be spouting off and getting GWB in trouble. I don't think that can be said about all politicians' wives.

95 avanti  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:49:56pm

re: #69 Charles

Not to blow the LGF horn too much, but I'm kind of amazed at how much traffic we're getting over Labor Day weekend. We're already over 100,000 pageviews for the day -- on Labor Day.

We've never had that much traffic over a major holiday weekend before.

But this blog is dieing, just ask the stalker blog ./ BTW, there is some serious Lizard hate going on over there.

96 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:50:01pm

re: #80 Charles

The jerks are showing up early in this thread.

You know how people are. Some might be thinking, regarding Laura's comments, "I question the timing." Others will try to keep it under wraps and not spread the news around of her comments. Oddly enough the "other" blogs haven't mentioned it. It's not on Drudge. It's not on Fox News.

97 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:50:06pm

re: #90 jaunte

I never though Laura Bush could generate such controversy.

I think Pres. Bush set up the Reading Czar for her.

Lyon, G. Reid

Reading czar President's Advisor on Reading First Initiative, Director of Reading Research, National Institutes of Child Health and Development, Member of the President's Commission on Excellence in Special Education Lyon, G. Reid

98 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:50:14pm

re: #82 shug
That is just jaw dropping ( the comments). Now I am starting to worry..
They have OD'd on the koolaid and tucked their little Nikes under the bunks. Next stop, Mothership.

99 MacDuff  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:50:39pm

re: #91 solomonpanting

Mrs. Bush gets in a backhand slap at Jimmy Carter. Well deserved, too.

Too bad she didn't follow up with a forehand slap and a knee to the groin.

100 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:51:14pm

re: #91 solomonpanting

It was subtle. The whole thing was. That, and it seemed quite sincere. That's why it worked, IMO.

No spittle, no dripping sarcasm, and no veins popping out of her head. Wow, what a concept.

101 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:51:34pm

re: #82 shug

Geeze. That whole page is 24-crackpot pure crazy.

102 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:51:38pm

re: #92 Dark_Falcon

Just wait a few minutes. It'll be telling all howling on the stalker blog.

Minor tweak.

103 freetoken  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:51:56pm

Wow, people getting canned by Stinky on a Laura Bush thread.

Who knew Laura was so controversial?

104 Racer X  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:52:24pm
105 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:52:49pm

re: #94 gymmom

I always thought Laura Bush's "handlers" during the campaign must have LOVED her. She is a naturally gracious lady and isn't going to be spouting off and getting GWB in trouble. I don't think that can be said about all politicians' wives.

How about politicians' HUSBANDS?

106 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:52:49pm

Sure enough. AP, CBS, NBC, Poltico, HuffPo, and the rest have it. Not a peep from Fox News.

Vely intellesting.

107 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:53:20pm

re: #102 MandyManners

Minor tweak.

Thank you. You improve my post nicely.

108 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:53:33pm

re: #69 Charles

Not bad for a tool of the oppressor...
:)

109 gymmom  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:53:39pm

re: #105 MandyManners

You are quite right, sorry - spouses then.

110 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:54:07pm

re: #101 Dark_Falcon

Geeze. That whole page is 24-crackpot pure crazy.

Well, the foot on the certificate was black. Who else's could it be?
/

111 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:54:27pm

re: #103 freetoken

Democrats at DU and Kos. Haven't you seen their lovely stories of how she ran down a teenager in cold blood and the media covered it up?
///

112 efuseakay  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:54:42pm
The former first lady said she believed criticism of the speech had arisen because of the accompanying lesson plans.

She does have a point there, as well... but those lesson plans are no longer included... I just wonder what the original address was like... but I doubt we will ever see a "leaked" copy of what he reeeally wanted to say to the kids. ;)

113 solomonpanting  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:56:12pm

re: #99 MacDuff

Too bad she didn't follow up with a forehand slap and a knee to the groin.

That's Cheney's job.
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114 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:56:13pm

re: #112 efuseakay

She does have a point there, as well... but those lesson plans are no longer included... I just wonder what the original address was like... but I doubt we will ever see a "leaked" copy of what he reeeally wanted to say to the kids. ;)

Right -- he MUST have been planning to brainwash our helpless children! All hail the right wing blogs for saving America!

Whew. We really dodged a bullet there.

115 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:56:29pm

re: #95 avanti

But this blog is dieing, just ask the stalker blog ./ BTW, there is some serious Lizard hate going on over there.

Indeed. Rodan just posted a thread comparing his loser blog to the Statue of Liberty. Geeze what an egomaniac. And hey Rodan, Charles is no "former colossus". His hits increase by the day. How about your own rating, loser.

116 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:56:31pm

re: #112 efuseakay

She does have a point there, as well... but those lesson plans are no longer included... I just wonder what the original address was like... but I doubt we will ever see a "leaked" copy of what he reeeally wanted to say to the kids. ;)

Well, unless you have some sort of proof there was any OTHER draft of the speech, your point is MOOT, isn't it?

117 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:56:48pm

re: #112 efuseakay

.. I just wonder what the original address was like...


Are you missing a sarc tag? I'm guessing probably not.

118 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:57:23pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

I thought the ass sniffing monkey video was kinda funny.

119 jaunte  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:57:48pm

Be on the alert for any combination of the words:
Kids... Help... President...
Report findings to G. Beck, @ F. News.

120 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:58:04pm

re: #116 Walter L. Newton

Well, unless you have some sort of proof there was any OTHER draft of the speech, your point is MOOT, isn't it?

Previously on LGF we had imaginary draft versions and imaginary memoirs revealing the "true story behind Obama's speech to the children."

121 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:58:31pm

re: #107 Dark_Falcon

Thank you. You improve my post nicely.

Glad you like it!

122 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:59:02pm

re: #109 gymmom

You are quite right, sorry - spouses then.

We gotta' keep on thinking differently.

123 Shug  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 7:59:28pm

I love Flo the progressive girl

124 avanti  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:00:11pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

Indeed. Rodan just posted a thread comparing his loser blog to the Statue of Liberty. Geeze what an egomaniac. And hey Rodan, Charles is no "former colossus". His hits increase by the day. How about your own rating, loser.

Yep, they are the new home for Lizards escaping the tyranny of King Charles and his ban stick./

125 mt3_1234  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:01:13pm

same day Sarah Palin praises Beck on her Facebook

126 freetoken  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:01:21pm

re: #111 tradewind

Democrats at DU and Kos.

Never read them. I really didn't think anyone would find Laura controversial in any serious manner, at all.

127 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:01:27pm

re: #118 Killgore Trout

I thought the ass sniffing monkey video was kinda funny.

It was fairly clever. The stalkers are a bunch of rejects and whack-jobs, but even a motley crew like that sometimes comes up with a good joke.

128 Racer X  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:01:33pm

If you're worried about your kids being brainwashed by the president - what does that say about your parenting skills?

129 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:02:37pm

It is interesting to watch this stuff happen. This morning Hot Air commenters were talking about the first draft of the speech. Then this guy...
Florida GOP Chair: White House Rewrote School Speech After Conservatives Caught Them Indoctrinating Children!

I don't think there's a coordinated effort here. These people independently invent the same conspiracy theory as if they have some sort of Vulcan mind meld going on. I never would have thought of a first draft theory in a million years. It's an amazing instinct. How do they do this?

130 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:02:39pm

I mean... THINK, people, think!

If Obama can reach into the cortex of Laura Bush and twist even HER to his evil will, there's no stopping this monster!

I was just kidding before, but now I see that America really is doomed. Who can stand before the mighty mesmerizing power of the Hussein-thing?

Is there no one who can come forth to save us in these perilous times?

131 Silvergirl  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:02:40pm

re: #28 Racer X

A few months ago I read an article about how gracious she was in the transition to the Obamas moving in to the white house. Class act all the way.

I liked the way her daughters wrote letters to the Obama daughters. I don't know the entire story on how that came about, but I would bet Laura had a hand in it.

132 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:03:31pm

re: #94 gymmom

I always thought Laura Bush's "handlers" during the campaign must have LOVED her. She is a naturally gracious lady and isn't going to be spouting off and getting GWB in trouble. I don't think that can be said about all politicians' wives.

Laura Bush is a former first lady and knows how to act like one should.
Besides, she has always seemed like a very warm, decent and forgiving person - otherwise she could have called Dubya out more than once on his shortcomings.
The kindly Mrs. Bush's graciousness about Pres. Obama is therefore not evidence that he is or is not a socialist.

133 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:03:47pm

re: #128 Racer X

If you're worried about your kids being brainwashed by the president - what does that say about your parenting skills?

My kids? It's not 10pm yet. I always tell them to stay the hell out of the doublewide until I finish up my Schlitz, about 10pm. They are out playin!
/

134 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:04:03pm

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

They should put more effort into their comedy. They have some generally funny concepts but they don't develop them quite enough.

135 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:04:06pm

re: #130 Charles

I mean... THINK, people, think!

If Obama can reach into the cortex of Laura Bush and twist even HER to his evil will, there's no stopping this monster!

I was just kidding before, but now I see that America really is doomed. Who can stand before the mighty mesmerizing power of the Hussein-thing?

Is there no one who can come forth to save us in these perilous times?

There's always a place for you back at Pajamas Media.

///

136 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:04:15pm

re: #120 Gus 802

Previously on LGF we had imaginary draft versions and imaginary memoirs revealing the "true story behind Obama's speech to the children."

I'll lay my opinions on the Obama school speech like this...

1) I don't care if he talks to the kids.
2) I don't care if some kids (or kids parents) opt out
3) There is nothing currently in the released speech and the revised activity plan that bothers me.
4) I was not in favor of the exercise in the original activity plan in regards to writing a letter to the president and telling him what you will do to help him, and then the possibility of revisiting those promised at a later date.

137 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:04:20pm
138 Silvergirl  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:05:43pm

re: #99 MacDuff

Too bad she didn't follow up with a forehand slap and a knee to the groin.

Then it would not be Laura Bush.

I love Laura!

139 freetoken  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:05:54pm

In other news:

Three guilty of airline bomb plot

Three men have been found guilty of plotting to kill thousands of people by blowing up planes flying from London to America with home-made liquid bombs.

140 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:06:37pm

re: #136 Walter L. Newton

I'll lay my opinions on the Obama school speech like this...

1) I don't care if he talks to the kids.
2) I don't care if some kids (or kids parents) opt out
3) There is nothing currently in the released speech and the revised activity plan that bothers me.
4) I was not in favor of the exercise in the original activity plan in regards to writing a letter to the president and telling him what you will do to help him, and then the possibility of revisiting those promised at a later date.

My kids get an earful from dear old Dad everyday about important stuff. They can listen to Pres. Obama all day if they so chose. I am raising smart little Republicans here, they are impervious to his hypno-beams.

141 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:06:40pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

Are you missing a sarc tag? I'm guessing probably not.

Not even a little bit curious?
/

142 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:06:53pm

re: #128 Racer X

If you're worried about your kids being brainwashed by the president - what does that say about your parenting skills?

My step-critter is in high school. The child will be watching the speech (although they have an opt-out option, which I think is fine). The child could argue against Obama's administration with any other child or teacher in the school better than a lot of adults I know.

I'm not concerned.

143 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:07:04pm

Hey, we need a transcript. We need to run Mrs. Bush's comments through the Word Frequency Counter.

//

144 gymmom  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:07:11pm

re: #137 MandyManners

I saw the Pretenders in Pittsburgh on my 21st birthday! and I remember it!
They are great. My children like her stuff too.

145 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:07:41pm

re: #56 Charles

Sure enough. We actually do have people showing up who think Laura Bush is a RINO.

Nah, her husband was a RINO (Republican In National Office). I really did think #5 was a joke, since it is the standard epithet of the nutfringe. Btw, they show their ignorance of the Republican heritage when they reject the GOP credentials of anyone who is not affiliated with the religious right and Bircher conspira-kooks.

I wonder if the actual leadership of the GOP (as opposed to self-appointed media) is testing the waters for a confrontation with the kooks. Who better to do this than a former First Lady, someone respected and prominent but with no official constituency and therefore no base to appease?

146 Big Steve  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:07:51pm

I have two High school age sons. Asked them at dinner if the local high school was going to show the speech tomorrow. They said they were (to my surprise because I heard they weren't...oh well). Anyway, my older son said some of his friends were going to boycott and he told them they were idiots because every minute spent listening to Obama was one less minute in class. So basically in typical teenage fashion, they see this as a skip time so I don't think we have to worry too much about brainwashing.

147 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:08:07pm

re: #140 Desert Dog

My kids get an earful from dear old Dad everyday about important stuff. They can listen to Pres. Obama all day if they so chose. I am raising smart little Republicans here, they are impervious to his hypno-beams.

That's the real answer, how we teach our children to listen and think. See my re: #142 Walter L. Newton

148 Racer X  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:08:23pm
149 That's Glenn Beck to you  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:08:46pm

OK everyone.

I am going to ask all of you to gather your families around your computer screens for an important announcement.

My research staff has uncovered a startling fact about our former First Lady Laura Bush.

Laura Bush is a secret Jazz Musician. And we can prove it since we found her signature on an on line petition where she admitted that she is a Jazz Musician!

I know - you want proof. Well here it is - signature #599.

Laura Bush needs to resign her position as Former First Lady. Right now. For the good of America. For the good of your family. Call the White House!

150 freetoken  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:08:55pm

re: #145 Shiplord Kirel

How's the stitches?

151 Silvergirl  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:09:19pm

re: #139 freetoken

In other news:

Three guilty of airline bomb plot

The second jury did it right.

Abdulla Ahmed Ali, Tanvir Hussain and Assad Sarwar were arrested in August 2006. They were each accused of two charges of conspiracy to murder using home-made explosives.

All three were found guilty in an earlier trial of conspiracy to murder involving liquid bombs - but that jury could not decide whether their plans extended to detonating the devices on planes.

Now a second jury has decided that such a terror plot did exist.

152 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:10:04pm
153 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:10:17pm

re: #129 Killgore Trout

FL GOP chair also reversed himself and said that Obama's speech was a good one, and he would be fine with his children watching it. Something you'd never hear a FL Democrat chairman saying, btw, if the situation was reversed.

re: #131 Silvergirl
The Bush daughters are GRITS (girls raised in the south), and the notes are simply good manners. Our Mamas drilled the ' write them a nice note' thing into our heads from elementary school, and email still doesn't count.

154 Mich-again  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:10:41pm

re: #149 That's Glenn Beck to you

Humor Fail.

155 jaunte  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:10:47pm

re: #149 That's Glenn Beck to you

Hey Glenn, I'm almost certain Laura Bush knows how to spell secret.

156 Silvergirl  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:10:49pm

re: #145 Shiplord Kirel

How ya doing since the accident? I haven't been on today, so if it's been discussed to death, ignore and I'll search around.

157 LatinGent  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:10:50pm

Smart enough to see the root of her partys problems, articulte and clear in presenting her case with class, grace and perfect dignity. I miss her more than I thought I would. She is a Rock.

158 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:11:27pm

re: #150 freetoken

How's the stitches?

Still there. Pretty annoying but it beats bleeding to death.

159 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:11:31pm

re: #154 Mich-again

Humor Fail.

Agreed, because it is a well know secret she is a closet Debussey fan.

160 solomonpanting  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:11:36pm

re: #151 Silvergirl

All three were found guilty in an earlier trial of conspiracy to murder involving liquid bombs - but that jury could not decide whether their plans extended to detonating the devices on planes.

I am speechless.

161 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:11:40pm

re: #134 Killgore Trout

They should put more effort into their comedy. They have some generally funny concepts but they don't develop them quite enough.

The nasty part tonight is that they have keyed in on iceweasel. The comments about her are very nasty (I will not quote them here). LGoPs is still clearly suffering from 'butthurt' from when IW kicked his ass before he got the stick.

162 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:12:11pm

re: #136 Walter L. Newton

I'll lay my opinions on the Obama school speech like this...

1) I don't care if he talks to the kids.
2) I don't care if some kids (or kids parents) opt out
3) There is nothing currently in the released speech and the revised activity plan that bothers me.
4) I was not in favor of the exercise in the original activity plan in regards to writing a letter to the president and telling him what you will do to help him, and then the possibility of revisiting those promised at a later date.

That sounds agreeable enough to me. Not my point of view completely but I like it -- especially 1 and 3.

163 Mich-again  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:12:21pm

re: #159 Walter L. Newton

If its well known, it can't be a secret ??

164 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:13:57pm

re: #130 Charles

I mean... THINK, people, think!

If Obama can reach into the cortex of Laura Bush and twist even HER to his evil will, there's no stopping this monster!

I was just kidding before, but now I see that America really is doomed. Who can stand before the mighty mesmerizing power of the Hussein-thing?

Is there no one who can come forth to save us in these perilous times?

ok, I'll do my best.

165 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:14:35pm

re: #128 Racer X

If you're worried about your kids being brainwashed by the president - what does that say about your parenting skills?

Chew on this for a minute.

Why is it important that we listen to the president and other elected officials, like the mayor, senators, members of congress, or the governor? Why is what they say important?

Do you want your job as the gate-keeper/filter for the politicians to be usurped by the educrats? Educators have them for about eight hours a day, 10 months each year.

It's from the .pdf file:

[Link: www.ed.gov...]

166 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:14:37pm

re: #156 Silvergirl

How ya doing since the accident? I haven't been on today, so if it's been discussed to death, ignore and I'll search around.

I'm fine, not doing much besides blogging. My friend Ben came over and finished assembling the lethal book case. I wanted to thank everyone for their kindness to my munchkin while she was standing in for me last night. I wasn't sure I would still be signed in when I got back but I asked her to update everyone if it turned out I was.
Btw, the munchkin is 27 now, 6 feet tall, and a doctor of science, but she will always be my baby.

167 Chekote  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:14:41pm

Laura Bush is a class act.

168 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:14:47pm

re: #130 Charles

I mean... THINK, people, think!

If Obama can reach into the cortex of Laura Bush and twist even HER to his evil will, there's no stopping this monster!

I was just kidding before, but now I see that America really is doomed. Who can stand before the mighty mesmerizing power of the Hussein-thing?

Is there no one who can come forth to save us in these perilous times?

Hussein-thing?
Is that the sound of the Islamophobia card hitting the table?

169 Silvergirl  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:15:06pm

re: #149 That's Glenn Beck to you

I don't think Laura Bush travels around with a special podium and logo for "Former First Lady of the United States" after the manner of Obama's unprecedented use of "Office of the President-Elect."

170 Shug  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:15:06pm

Flounces on a Laura Bush thread. That's like flouncing off to ZooBorns

171 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:15:24pm

re: #163 Mich-again

If its well known, it can't be a secret ??

Sha...

172 brandon13  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:15:28pm

I saw these signs today at an anti Obamacare rally here in Pensacola. They are the first signs you see anyone holding when you're driving down the road.

Your text to link...

173 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:15:28pm

re: #149 That's Glenn Beck to you

OK everyone.

I am going to ask all of you to gather your families around your computer screens for an important announcement.

My research staff has uncovered a startling fact about our former First Lady Laura Bush.

Laura Bush is a secret Jazz Musician. And we can prove it since we found her signature on an on line petition where she admitted that she is a Jazz Musician!

I know - you want proof. Well here it is - signature #599.

Laura Bush needs to resign her position as Former First Lady. Right now. For the good of America. For the good of your family. Call the White House!

That a hoot actually:

Don't tell Glenn Beck or any of his crack research team that I am a sekrit Jazz Musician.

174 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:16:16pm

re: #162 Gus 802

That sounds agreeable enough to me. Not my point of view completely but I like it -- especially 1 and 3.

So, in regards to #2. You want it to be mandatory that the children listen to the president?

175 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:16:26pm

Florida Republican Marco Rubio calls for the GOP to get even more crazy:

[Link: www.theledger.com...]

Rubio is a creationist who is pushing to sneak it into Florida's schools.

Of course.

176 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:16:37pm

Laura Bush a jazz musician. George Bush a mountain biker. Why, doesn't that sound familiar?

Cycling... jazz..

Hmmm.

//

177 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:16:39pm

re: #144 gymmom

I saw the Pretenders in Pittsburgh on my 21st birthday! and I remember it!
They are great. My children like her stuff too.

I might have seen them in Seattle but, that could be a sensimilla-induced memory.

178 Shug  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:17:05pm

re: #172 brandon13
Those damned Zars

179 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:18:03pm

re: #174 Walter L. Newton

So, in regards to #2. You want it to be mandatory that the children listen to the president?

That would be up to the discretion of the school I reckon. If I were a principal I would say it would have to be mandatory but I wouldn't make a huge issue of it.

180 Wendya  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:18:31pm

re: #75 avanti

Not a fan of Bush's politics, but respected his love of country and his class. This is my favorite image of him, his face says it all for me.

Bush.

I like this one:

Image: w3_bushwithboys,0.jpg

181 Racer X  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:19:05pm

Received via email. Not sure how true any of this is.

Harry Truman was a different kind of President. He probably made as many important decisions regarding our nation's history as any of the other 42 Presidents. However, a measure of his greatness may rest on what he did after he left the White House.

The only asset he had when he died was the house he lived in, which was in Independence Missouri. His wife had inherited the house from her mother and other than their years in the White House, they lived their entire lives there.

When he retired from office in 1952, his income was a U.S. Army pension reported to have been $13,507.72 a year. Congress, noting that he was paying for his stamps and personally licking them, granted him an 'allowance' and, later, a retroactive pension of $25,000 per year..

After President Eisenhower was inaugurated, Harry and Bess drove home to Missouri by themselves. There were no Secret Service following them.

When offered corporate positions at large salaries, he declined, stating, "You don't want me. You want the office of the President, and that doesn't belong to me. It belongs to the American people and it's not for sale."

Even later, on May 6, 1971, when Congress was preparing to award him the Medal of Honor on his 87th birthday, he refused to accept it, writing, "I don't consider that I have done anything which should be the reason for any award, Congressional or otherwise."

As president he paid for all of his own travel expenses and food.

Modern politicians have found a new level of success in cashing in on the Presidency, resulting in untold wealth. Today, many in Congress also have found a way to become quite wealthy while enjoying the fruits of their offices.

Good old Harry Truman was correct when he observed, "My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a whore house or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!"

I say dig him up and clone him!!

182 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:19:28pm

The 2012 GOP ticket:

Ron Paul and Sarah Palin!

Yeah! Now it's getting weird enough.

183 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:20:26pm

re: #182 Charles

The 2012 GOP ticket:

Ron Paul and Sarah Palin!

Yeah! Now it's getting weird enough.

So, New Zealand aye? ;)

184 Mich-again  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:21:11pm

re: #179 Gus 802

If I were a principal I would say it would have to be mandatory but I wouldn't make a huge issue of it.

You wouldn't have to. If you made it mandatory, other people would make it a huge issue for you. Which is probably part of the reason why Obama chose the first day of school for the speech. Otherwise it would probably require some kind of permission slip and parents spouting off at school board meetings.

185 mt3_1234  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:21:26pm

re: #182 Charles

The 2012 GOP ticket:

Ron Paul and Sarah Palin!

Yeah! Now it's getting weird enough.

sounds like a Lewis Carrol type of tea party...

186 Racer X  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:21:30pm

re: #182 Charles

The 2012 GOP ticket:

Ron Paul and Sarah Palin!

Yeah! Now it's getting weird enough.

Oh I think there is plenty of weirdness left in the jar.

187 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:21:48pm

re: #179 Gus 802

That would be up to the discretion of the school I reckon. If I were a principal I would say it would have to be mandatory but I wouldn't make a huge issue of it.

Oh, not up to the parents? Would you like the Pledge of Allegiance to be mandatory too?

Parents and children are allowed to opt-out of a whole bunch of school activities right now, why would you want to make it mandatory to watch the president, especially if the parents object?

188 jaunte  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:21:57pm

re: #182 Charles

Doubling down on on the rightward 20%. Now that's math challenged.

189 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:22:11pm

re: #184 Mich-again

You wouldn't have to. If you made it mandatory, other people would make it a huge issue for you. Which is probably part of the reason why Obama chose the first day of school for the speech. Otherwise it would probably require some kind of permission slip and parents spouting off at school board meetings.

Honestly, I'm all "talked" out on the speech. The ball is in their court.

190 Shug  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:22:26pm

re: #185 mt3_1234

sounds like a Lewis Carrol type of tea party...

a very merry un nirthday to you !

191 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:22:33pm

re: #130 Charles

I mean... THINK, people, think!

If Obama can reach into the cortex of Laura Bush and twist even HER to his evil will, there's no stopping this monster!

I was just kidding before, but now I see that America really is doomed. Who can stand before the mighty mesmerizing power of the Hussein-thing?

Is there no one who can come forth to save us in these perilous times?

I cannot think of any talk show host or pundit I wish to see in spandex--on the left or the right.

192 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:22:38pm

re: #126 freetoken

Never read them. I really didn't think anyone would find Laura controversial in any serious manner, at all.

I have never met anyone who didn't like her. Sometimes it was accompanied by "How could she have married THAT?", but everyone likes Laura.

I felt so bad when she was the only one at the RNC praising her husband.

193 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:23:08pm

re: #160 solomonpanting
They must have been given the OJ Simpson Jury Charge

We simply can't be sure the Shiite
Was meant for sure the fan to hit
Therefore we simply must acquit
//

194 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:23:15pm

I was mistaken when I said there were no moonbats here at the family reunion preceding my son's wedding. My moonbat sister isn't here (not that I expected her to attend) but my son, not the one who is getting married, but the one from Moscow who worked on the Obama campaign, is acting very moonbatty.

He gave me a copy of Corsi's book and told me I would enjoy it. I said "I thought you liked Obama!" He said, "I do, but I know you don't." I said I don't like Corsi even more.

However my son is a big practical joker and I suspect he is pulling my leg. He also started a scholarly discussion at the dinner table, on the topic of evolution, taking both sides just to get everyone all riled up, which ended up with everybody screaming and yelling and my son laughing like a jackass.

He was enjoying the hell out of himself.

What fun is a rational, scholarly discussion at the family dinner table that doesn't end in screaming and yelling?

195 Shug  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:23:17pm

g'night all.
watch out for the kiddies tomorrow when driving

196 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:24:11pm

re: #131 Silvergirl

I liked the way her daughters wrote letters to the Obama daughters. I don't know the entire story on how that came about, but I would bet Laura had a hand in it.

I think the Bush twins actually showed the Obama girls around the White House, IIRC. I thought that must have been exciting for them, having grown-up ladies paying attention to them.

197 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:25:47pm

re: #182 Charles

I had hoped for a Palin/Jessica Simpson ticket. Foiled again.

198 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:25:55pm

re: #192 SanFranciscoZionist

I know lots of people who've met George W, and never met anyone who didn't like him after meeting him either.
Dem rhetoric aside, he's a very personable guy with tons of friends. It's one reason why he was so serene about leaving the WH, unlike a lot of other ex presidents: he had an actual life outside of Washington to resume.

199 Padre  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:26:02pm

Go Laura, SMU alumnus!!!

Glad to have the Bush library!!!

200 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:26:24pm

re: #182 Charles

The 2012 GOP ticket:

Ron Paul and Sarah Palin!

Yeah! Now it's getting weird enough.

This could seriously work... for the progressives.

201 solomonpanting  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:26:32pm

re: #182 Charles

The 2012 GOP ticket:

Ron Paul and Sarah Palin!

Yeah! Now it's getting weird enough.

Someone has another suggestion.

202 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:27:59pm

re: #175 Charles

Florida Republican Marco Rubio calls for the GOP to get even more crazy:

[Link: www.theledger.com...]

Rubio is a creationist who is pushing to sneak it into Florida's schools.

Of course.

He's functionally illiterate too:

"

Republicans are looking for someone to stand up to the most radical voice in Washington in American history, someone who is credible to Republican principles, and someone who understands that the Republicans of Florida are the natural home of alternative policies that are closer to what the country wants," he said in his Ledger interview.

One might be credible to Republicans, but principles are an abstraction and are not capable of belief one way or the other. And how are "Republicans of Florida" (people, human beings etc) be a natural home to these "alternative policies." Does he see these policies as parasites, infesting the good folk of the GOP?

204 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:30:21pm

re: #201 solomonpanting

Someone has another suggestion.

Joe Scarborough? Is that a joke???

Never mind, I know it isn't.

Scarborough is a pal of Pat Buchanan's.

205 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:30:26pm

Meanwhile Obama's popularity continues to plummet.
If the US economy keeps circling the drain then Attila the Hun will be able to beat Obama in 2012.

206 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:30:36pm

re: #194 Alouette

You just yanked me back into reality from my mood-altering here at LGF... I'm going to be in somewhat the same situation starting day after tomorrow.. .. and in Leftyland, at that. I am in deep denial here.
Have fun and know that you won't be the only one...
:)

207 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:31:27pm

re: #204 Charles

Joe Scarborough? Is that a joke???

Never mind, I know it isn't.

Scarborough is a pal of Pat Buchanan's.

Joseph Wurzelbacher could be the plumbing czar. Now there's another intellectual mind.

//

208 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:31:38pm

re: #206 tradewind

You just yanked me back into reality from my mood-altering here at LGF... I'm going to be in somewhat the same situation starting day after tomorrow.. .. and in Leftyland, at that. I am in deep denial here.
Have fun and know that you won't be the only one...
:)

My son isn't really a lefty moonbat, but he likes to play both sides against the middle just for grins. I think he would be at home here at LGF.

209 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:31:42pm

re: #202 Shiplord Kirel

Oh, sure, with plans like this, I can see how Florida speaks for the entire nation.

WTF.

210 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:31:57pm

Africa, the country.

//

211 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:32:12pm

Why do we need a Weatherization Czar and who the hell is Gill Sperling?

212 solomonpanting  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:32:32pm

re: #204 Charles

Joe Scarborough? Is that a joke???

Never mind, I know it isn't.

Scarborough is a pal of Pat Buchanan's.

Perhaps Buchanan could be Immigration Czar.

213 avanti  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:32:56pm

re: #200 Walter L. Newton

This could seriously work... for the progressives.

The best thing the left could do it to continue to ignore the Tea Parties, let them grow and get more whacked out organizers, then use the unsavory connections against the right in the election.

214 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:33:28pm

re: #202 Shiplord Kirel

Ewww. He's got that shady kind of deviant look, dammit.
Back to the drawing board, GOPs.

215 Wendya  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:33:37pm

re: #205 Spare O'Lake

Attila the Hun will be able to beat Obama in 2012.

Speaking of which... I've heard whispers from the left that they want Hillary to run...

216 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:33:45pm

re: #203 theheat

Good grief.

I really hope that Sarah Palin keeps the Tea Parties at arm's length. If she gets mixed up with that crowd, she'll turn her political name to mud.

217 TheMatrix31  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:34:01pm

Akh akh akh

218 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:34:56pm

re: #209 theheat

Oh, sure, with plans like this, I can see how Florida speaks for the entire nation.

WTF.

Eegad!! Their oratory looks like an airship hangar. I can see the Hindenburg sidling up to it, guided by a swarm of devote seminarians, then...

Oh! The Humanity!

219 TheMatrix31  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:35:03pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

I really hope that Sarah Palin keeps the Tea Parties at arm's length. If she gets mixed up with that crowd, she'll turn her political name to mud.

I agree. That said, it's not like her political reputation is so high anyway due to all the slander and ridiculous crap thrown at her over the last year.

220 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:35:53pm

re: #216 Dark_Falcon

I really hope that Sarah Palin keeps the Tea Parties at arm's length. If she gets mixed up with that crowd, she'll turn her political name to mud.

Palin is going to get deeply involved in the tea parties. Guaranteed. It's already happening.

221 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:36:29pm

re: #219 TheMatrix31

She grabbed a shovel and heaped some more on herself, in all fairness.

222 wee fury  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:37:16pm

I admire Laura Bush.

223 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:37:47pm

re: #213 avanti

The best thing the left could do it to continue to ignore the Tea Parties, let them grow and get more whacked out organizers, then use the unsavory connections against the right in the election.

You know. That might not be such a bad idea in a Machiavellian way. Maybe even fund Orly Taitz to do some speaking engagement. Alan Keyes is always a "good" addition.

/

224 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:38:07pm

re: #204 Charles

Joe Scarborough? Is that a joke???

Never mind, I know it isn't.

Scarborough is a pal of Pat Buchanan's.

I. did. not. know. that.

225 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:38:19pm

re: #219 TheMatrix31

I agree. That said, it's not like her political reputation is so high anyway due to all the slander and ridiculous crap thrown at her over the last year.

True, but much of that was, as you pointed out, slander. Given time, she might be able to neutralize it with the truth. I she makes nice with Luap Nor, she'll be tarred again, and this time the tar with have truth mixed in with it.

226 Chekote  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:38:47pm
Palin is going to get deeply involved in the tea parties. Guaranteed. It's already happening.

Palin has made the political decision to play to the worst instincts of the GOP base. I have written her off a few months ago. It is a shame. In Alaska, she had gained herself a reputation of middle of the road, pragmatic pol.

227 avanti  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:38:49pm

re: #205 Spare O'Lake

Meanwhile Obama's popularity continues to plummet.
If the US economy keeps circling the drain then Attila the Hun will be able to beat Obama in 2012.

His popularity is not plummeting, it's down from the unsustainable 60's, but right in line with most POTUS's after the honeymoon. The economy is better, but far from good. i.e. the market is up over 50%, home sales are turning around, job looses are down from 700K/month to around 200K. If you think a weak candidate will beat him in 2012, things will have to get much worse.

228 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:39:03pm

re: #220 Charles

Palin is going to get deeply involved in the tea parties. Guaranteed. It's already happening.

Then we can put a fork in her, cause she's done politically.

229 TheMatrix31  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:39:04pm

re: #221 theheat

She grabbed a shovel and heaped some more on herself, in all fairness.

You know, I've been meaning to ask this. What else besides the "death panel" terminology? Serious question.

230 Spare O'Lake  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:39:48pm

re: #211 MandyManners

Why do we need a Weatherization Czar and who the hell is Gill Sperling?

Isn't he the promoter/owner of the Hair Club for Men?

231 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:39:58pm

re: #224 The Shadow Do

He's a commentator for MSNBC on Scarborough's morning show (which is good, and the only reason for MSNBC to exist, IMO). I kind of doubt they go out for beers.

232 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:40:23pm

re: #229 TheMatrix31

You know, I've been meaning to ask this. What else besides the "death panel" terminology? Serious question.

Oh, maybe ... quitting her job right in the middle of her term?

233 Chekote  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:40:33pm
Scarborough is a pal of Pat Buchanan's.

The work together but I doubt they are friends. Scarborough has caught a lot of flak for criticizing conservatives for their knee-jerk reaction that everything Obama does is automatically bad.

234 Racer X  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:41:10pm

Band of Horses - The Funeral

Dude has some wicked biking skills!

235 TheMatrix31  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:41:21pm

re: #232 Charles

Oh, maybe ... quitting her job right in the middle of her term?

Definitely. I was moreso referring to things she's said or things she's aligned herself with, though.

236 Jimmah  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:41:40pm

re: #69 Charles

Not to blow the LGF horn too much, but I'm kind of amazed at how much traffic we're getting over Labor Day weekend. We're already over 100,000 pageviews for the day -- on Labor Day.

We've never had that much traffic over a major holiday weekend before.

I heard that the frootloops on the cesspit are telling each other that the increase in traffic is down to people from there looking in to see the 'LGF train crash' in progress. I think this level of delusion is the sort of thing the word 'wingularity' was designed to describe.

237 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:42:11pm

re: #231 tradewind

He's a commentator for MSNBC on Scarborough's morning show (which is good, and the only reason for MSNBC to exist, IMO). I kind of doubt they go out for beers.

Scarborough and Buchanan are close friends, and often appear together at events. I'm sure they DO go out for beers.

238 brandon13  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:42:39pm

re: #235 TheMatrix31

Definitely. I was moreso referring to things she's said or things she's aligned herself with, though.

She's shown some support for Glenn Beck.

239 Chekote  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:42:52pm

Today Palin released a Facebook statement blasting the AP for using the picture of an injured Marine w/out the family's consent. Gates had already done that this past Friday. In her statement, Palin referred to the soldier's photo as a "sacred image". She is turning into a demagague of the religious right.

240 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:42:54pm

re: #182 Charles

The 2012 GOP ticket:

Ron Paul and Sarah Palin!

I would join al qaeda

241 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:43:15pm

re: #182 Charles

The 2012 GOP ticket:

Ron Paul and Sarah Palin!

Yeah! Now it's getting weird enough.

Hey, wait a second. I thought Michele Bachmann was the odds-on favorite for the number two spot on the Out of Their Freakin' Gourds ticket.

It just seems so unfair, after she slit her wrists and bled for the cause, and everything. She's gonna be pissed.

242 lazardo  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:43:21pm

Yeesh.

Moments like these make me wish we had a real liberal party, not just one that's been tied to traditional political machinery for the last century.

243 avanti  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:43:25pm

re: #235 TheMatrix31

Definitely. I was moreso referring to things she's said or things she's aligned herself with, though.

Her support of Beck disqualifies her for many.

244 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:43:49pm

re: #237 Charles

Well, I guess there have been stranger couples. If Ted Kennedy and Orrin Hatch were best buds, anything's possible. It's still hard to imagine... the age difference alone.

245 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:44:01pm

re: #238 brandon13

She's shown some support for Glenn Beck.

Not just "some support" -- she urged her Facebook readers to watch the Glenn Beck show.

246 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:44:17pm

re: #211 MandyManners

Why do we need a Weatherization Czar and who the hell is Gill Sperling?

Look here...

Weatherization and Intergovernmental Program

and here...

Organizational Chart

Not sure about the czar position but this stem from:

On July 1, 2006, the six regional offices under the U.S. Department of Energy's Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE) were realigned and consolidated into two existing organizations:

The Golden Field Office (GO) in Golden, CO and the National Energy Technology Laboratory (NETL) in Morgantown, WV and Pittsburgh, PA.

247 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:44:35pm

re: #240 SpaceJesus

I would join al qaeda

That's not really something to joke about, SJ, but I take your point.

248 TheMatrix31  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:44:51pm

re: #243 avanti

Her support of Beck disqualifies her for many.

Oh ok.

249 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:45:17pm
250 mt3_1234  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:45:26pm

re: #245 Charles

Not just "some support" -- she urged her Facebook readers to watch the Glenn Beck show.

ya, see my link to it at #125

251 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:45:36pm

re: #240 SpaceJesus

That wasn't clever, or funny. Or insightful. Or cute. Or anything else that anyone wants.

252 avanti  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:46:02pm

re: #240 SpaceJesus

I would join al qaeda

That's way over the top, even for you.

253 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:46:26pm

re: #240 SpaceJesus

I would join al qaeda

When you get over to the camps in Pakistan. Please step outside the cave and hold this up, will ya?

254 pjh  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:46:31pm

OK, bicycling came up. As someone who hasn't been around here in awhile, are you still fighting those fascist headwinds, Charles?

255 Chekote  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:47:18pm
Scarborough and Buchanan are close friends, and often appear together at events. I'm sure they DO go out for beers.

Well, that's disappointing. Scarborough seems reasonable. This is what he had to said about conservatives railing against Obama's speech "keep screwing your party, way to go":

[Link: www.politico.com...]

256 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:47:36pm

re: #239 Chekote

Today Palin released a Facebook statement blasting the AP for using the picture of an injured Marine w/out the family's consent. Gates had already done that this past Friday. In her statement, Palin referred to the soldier's photo as a "sacred image". She is turning into a demagague of the religious right.

Maybe yes or maybe no on that photo. One could be an atheist and still consider that photo sacred so to speak.

257 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:48:02pm

re: #254 pjh

OK, bicycling came up. As someone who hasn't been around here in awhile, are you still fighting those fascist headwinds, Charles?

Yes. But I can't post about it any more at LGF, because I received some very specific threats.

258 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:48:23pm

re: #240 SpaceJesus

I would join al qaeda

I'd tell you to go piss up a rope but, I have sympathy for the rope.

259 pjh  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:48:51pm

re: #257 Charles

Very sorry to hear that.

260 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:49:13pm

re: #259 pjh

Very sorry to hear that.

Not as sorry as I was, I bet.

261 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:49:21pm

*whacks self*

Don't feed the drama llama.

262 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:49:25pm

re: #252 avanti

That's way over the top, even for you.


yeah, ok. take it back. i wouldn't join al qaeda.

263 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:49:27pm

re: #257 Charles

Yes. But I can't post about it any more at LGF, because I received some very specific threats.

I actually grabbed a screen shot of one this afternoon. You know, from the insane asylum.

264 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:50:12pm

re: #229 TheMatrix31

If Obama's ties to kookie Rev. Wright is fair game, so are Palin's religious affiliations. Additionally, throughout the campaign last year she was a gaffe machine, and hasn't stopped. She proved herself thin-skinned, prone to exaggeration (Letterman, death panels), and quit her term as governor with a speech that could be kindly described as rambling. Then, just last week, her PAC donations were revealed, and she'd donated money to the likes of Michele Bachmann.

It wasn't just the death panels thing. It's all those things put together. That, and I strongly disagree with her views about abortion and contraception education. And, no, this has nothing to do with her private decision to have a special needs baby, but things she has spoken about previously.

I don't care if she makes a fortune writing books, or talk radio, her own pinup calendar, or even her own TV show - but I don't want her in my politics.

265 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:50:15pm

re: #263 Gus 802

I actually grabbed a screen shot of one this afternoon. You know, from the insane asylum.

Email it to me, please.

266 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:50:29pm

re: #257 Charles

Yes. But I can't post about it any more at LGF, because I received some very specific threats.

? people know where you are based on the pictures?

267 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:51:01pm

re: #261 MandyManners

*whacks self*

Don't feed the drama llama.

Whacking yourself will make you go blind, Mandy. :D

268 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:52:09pm

re: #264 theheat

If Obama's ties to kookie Rev. Wright is fair game, so are Palin's religious affiliations. Additionally, throughout the campaign last year she was a gaffe machine, and hasn't stopped. She proved herself thin-skinned, prone to exaggeration (Letterman, death panels), and quit her term as governor with a speech that could be kindly described as rambling. Then, just last week, her PAC donations were revealed, and she'd donated money to the likes of Michele Bachmann.

It wasn't just the death panels thing. It's all those things put together. That, and I strongly disagree with her views about abortion and contraception education. And, no, this has nothing to do with her private decision to have a special needs baby, but things she has spoken about previously.

I don't care if she makes a fortune writing books, or talk radio, her own pinup calendar, or even her own TV show - but I don't want her in my politics.


Newsflash: Sarah Palin will not be the nominee of the GOP in 2012. Glenn Beck is not even a member of the party, is he? Ron Paul is not going to win the nomination either.

269 Racer X  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:52:12pm

In one minute, 13 humans are going to float overhead, 200 miles above. SoCal.

270 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:53:35pm

re: #262 SpaceJesus

yeah, ok. take it back. i wouldn't join al qaeda.

I sense a re-making of O. Henry's story Ransom of Red Chief.

271 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:54:04pm

brb

272 rain of lead  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:54:04pm

wow
miami 38
florida st 34
they used all 60 min,went down to the last sec

273 brandon13  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:54:20pm

re: #268 Desert Dog

Newsflash: Sarah Palin will not be the nominee of the GOP in 2012. Glenn Beck is not even a member of the party, is he? Ron Paul is not going to win the nomination either.

I think you're underestimating the influence that Glenn Beck has. At the anti Obamacare rally I past today I saw several signs referencing Beck.

274 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:54:32pm

I had Scarborough pegged as a reasonable man. Why would he hang with that son of a bitch Buchanan one wonders.

275 Arbalest  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:54:36pm

If you remember Scarborough’s and Kress on Congress Avenue, then you very likely heard former First Lady Laura Bush’s words slightly differently.

She notes that No Child Left Behind is still approved, and that the major problem many parents had with Obama’s speech were the guidelines. And, as she notes, the original guidelines were rescinded. At this point, the thought might come to mind. “what were the original guidelines, that caused parents to object?”

Her later comment, that it is important to respect the president, might remind listeners of the degree of respect her husband received. And at about the 5:00 mark, when the criticism question comes up, Mrs. Bush will not answer, nor later give advice.

Mrs. Bush’s later comments about bipartisanship seem to be directed at everyone. She recalls how (at the time Governor) Bush was able to work with Democratic legislators in the Texas Legislature, but later, those in Washington refused. It was a rough 8 years. President Obama now seems to have a similar problem.

Could Mrs. Bush actually mean that bipartisan legislation is foreign to Washington. Perhaps she means that both sides have to legislate together, not exclude one side and try to ram bill through Congress unread. I think she is speaking, a bit obliquely, to everyone.

276 Chekote  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:55:09pm

re: #256 Gus 802

Gates handled it right. Palin went over the top, IMO. Just like the Letterman joke. Way over the top. I got banned from another site for saying that Palin was exaggerating. Letterman's joke was in bad taste but...

277 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:55:47pm

re: #273 brandon13

I think you're underestimating the influence that Glenn Beck has. At the anti Obamacare rally I past today I saw several signs referencing Beck.

He is not a politician, nor is he even a member of the Republican party. But, right now, he does seem to be riding high. We'll see what influence he can sustain. He seems kinda unstable to me.

278 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:56:26pm

re: #257 Charles

Yes. But I can't post about it any more at LGF, because I received some very specific threats.

That really sucks. All of us who appreciate your voice of sanity should try to keep in mind the sacrifices that you make for being that voice.

279 TheMatrix31  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:57:12pm

re: #264 theheat

If Obama's ties to kookie Rev. Wright is fair game, so are Palin's religious affiliations. Additionally, throughout the campaign last year she was a gaffe machine, and hasn't stopped. She proved herself thin-skinned, prone to exaggeration (Letterman, death panels), and quit her term as governor with a speech that could be kindly described as rambling. Then, just last week, her PAC donations were revealed, and she'd donated money to the likes of Michele Bachmann.

It wasn't just the death panels thing. It's all those things put together. That, and I strongly disagree with her views about abortion and contraception education. And, no, this has nothing to do with her private decision to have a special needs baby, but things she has spoken about previously.

I don't care if she makes a fortune writing books, or talk radio, her own pinup calendar, or even her own TV show - but I don't want her in my politics.

Thanks for the response. Not too sure about the religious stuff though. As I recall, she was against teaching in school and all of that stuff.

280 Chekote  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:57:22pm

re: #277 Desert Dog

Beck is unstable. It will be interesting to see how he reacts now that he will be a target of the Lefty Nuts.

281 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:57:30pm

I think Glen Beck is a Michael Savage moment waiting to happen, and that moment cannot come soon enough.

282 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:58:27pm

Hey Night Lizards!

Laura Bush is a Lady with a capital "L".

How are you-all and what are we talking about?

283 Chekote  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:59:00pm

re: #281 The Shadow Do

Elaborate please.

284 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:59:02pm

re: #276 Chekote

Letterman's joke was in poor taste. It wasn't even remotely funny, even if he'd referred to the right daughter. I'm not in disagreement about that. It was plain stupid and tasteless.

However, Palin ran with that to say that Letterman was advocating this baseball player to rape her underage daughter, when clearly that was not what he meant.

It was 100% stupid, any way you cut it. He apologized, she said he was advocating rape of a minor. Yes, that's exaggerating. A lot.

285 lazardo  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 8:59:45pm

re: #282 ggt

About why America should really realign itself leftward so the crazy right stay in the fringe where they belong?

286 mt3_1234  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:00:07pm

re: #277 Desert Dog

He is not a politician, nor is he even a member of the Republican party. But, right now, he does seem to be riding high. We'll see what influence he can sustain. He seems kinda unstable to me.

"kinda"?

///

287 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:00:18pm

re: #269 Racer X

In one minute, 13 humans are going to float overhead, 200 miles above. SoCal.

How cool is that?

288 Chekote  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:00:23pm

re: #284 theheat

I have finally found a home. Like I said. I got banned for making your point. In some places, anything less than 100% adoration of Palin is considered treason.

289 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:01:29pm

re: #279 TheMatrix31

Her church was going to pray the gay out of people, for one. Then there was that one witch doctor, for lack of a better term, she quoted...

That was quite enough for me, thank you.

290 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:01:44pm

Does Tod Palin's ties the Alaskan Independence Party make Sara unelectable in the primaries? I can't see her fellow republicans giving her a free pass with that issue and things could get ugly.

291 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:01:50pm

re: #284 theheat

she said he was advocating rape of a minor. Yes, that's exaggerating. A lot.

Did she actually say that Letterman was advocating the rape of a minor?

292 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:01:51pm

re: #285 lazardo

About why America should really realign itself leftward so the crazy right stay in the fringe where they belong?

huh?

293 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:02:25pm

re: #280 Chekote

Beck is unstable. It will be interesting to see how he reacts now that he will be a target of the Lefty Nuts.

I don't think he can take it as well as he dishes it out. But, you never know. Drunk with power and full of confidence...he might survive it all. I think he is one show away from getting yanked. He brings in the viewers, no doubt, but he is also crazy.

His books are not really that bad, a little kookiness, but that is what I cannot understand. He comes across as rational, but when you see him on TV, it's like someone else.

294 Silvergirl  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:02:31pm

re: #274 The Shadow Do

I had Scarborough pegged as a reasonable man. Why would he hang with that son of a bitch Buchanan one wonders.

I don't know much about him, but it's probably like co-workers. I've been to social functions with people at work who are far removed from people I would ordinarily spend time with. Employment and its obligations can create some motley crews of people out "having fun."

295 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:03:33pm

re: #291 Last Mohican

Yes, she did. Google it. It's been weeks and weeks since I read the quote, but it was a direct quote, not a summation. I probably read that on CNN or one of the majors.

296 jaunte  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:03:49pm

re: #288 Chekote

I stated out liking Palin, but she seemed to make a lot of bad choices.
I don't think she can provide the reasonable leadership we need.

297 Chekote  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:03:58pm

re: #291 Last Mohican

re: #284 theheat


Did she actually say that Letterman was advocating the rape of a minor?

Yes.

298 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:04:09pm

re: #291 Last Mohican

Did she actually say that Letterman was advocating the rape of a minor?

Letterman made the opening. Any reference to rape (statutory or otherwise) in a "comic" way (no matter how lame) is fair game< IMHO.

299 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:04:15pm

re: #284 theheat

Letterman's joke was in poor taste. It wasn't even remotely funny, even if he'd referred to the right daughter. I'm not in disagreement about that. It was plain stupid and tasteless.

However, Palin ran with that to say that Letterman was advocating this baseball player to rape her underage daughter, when clearly that was not what he meant.

It was 100% stupid, any way you cut it. He apologized, she said he was advocating rape of a minor. Yes, that's exaggerating. A lot.

The exaggeration was completely deliberate. Palin doesn't care about credibility -- she's going for the red meat base, and that's why she flat-out lied about what Letterman said.

If I ever had a shred of respect for her, it's completely gone now.

300 lazardo  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:05:04pm

re: #292 ggt

huh?

Glenn Beck's latest outburst generally. Very much the right wing showing its true face.

301 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:05:25pm

re: #299 Charles

The exaggeration was completely deliberate. Palin doesn't care about credibility -- she's going for the red meat base, and that's why she flat-out lied about what Letterman said.

If I ever had a shred of respect for her, it's completely gone now.

I think the Whacko's have nothing left to throw, but red meat. And they know it.

302 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:05:35pm

re: #299 Charles

The exaggeration was completely deliberate. Palin doesn't care about credibility -- she's going for the red meat base, and that's why she flat-out lied about what Letterman said.

If I ever had a shred of respect for her, it's completely gone now.

The joke was more of a swipe at A-Rod, wasn't it? Bad joke, bad reaction. Bad all the way around.

303 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:05:37pm

re: #283 Chekote

Elaborate please.

Savage got his ass tossed off the tube for a really nasty shot at gays. Beck will likewise run his mouth right over the edge at some point.

304 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:05:48pm

re: #265 Charles

Email it to me, please.

Can't find your email address Charles.

305 Chekote  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:05:54pm

re: #303 The Shadow Do

Got it. Thanks.

306 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:06:03pm

re: #300 lazardo

Glenn Beck's latest outburst generally. Very much the right wing showing its true face.

Oh, I've been actively ignoring him.

307 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:06:05pm

re: #300 lazardo

Glenn Beck's latest outburst generally. Very much the right wing showing its true face.

True face, eh? How would you know this?

308 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:06:20pm

re: #288 Chekote

I will say, as much as I dislike her, Palin took a lot of criticism for a lot of bullshit, and was accused of things she didn't do. She was smeared. However, I made my decisions about her without that.

309 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:06:24pm

re: #304 Gus 802

Can't find your email address Charles.

charles at littlegreen etc.

310 SFGoth  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:06:57pm

George HW Bush, George W Bush, Richard Nixon. Thanks but no thanks. This ex-Dem could use a man like Ronald Reagan again.
Didn't need to feel liked
Could not be called a Dem-crat lite
Gee our old country was tight
Those were the days

311 Chekote  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:07:09pm

McCain owes the country and the Republican party an apology for bringing Palin into the national spotlight. It will be very difficult to deal with her fans.

312 lazardo  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:07:48pm

re: #307 Desert Dog

All those Beckites etc. at the health care protests and town halls, the tea parties, Palin and Ron Paul becoming the "standard bearers" and, most damningly, the general lack of criticism from what is supposed to be the "reasonable" sector of the right wing.

Laura Bush and LGF being relieving if not rather isolated exceptions.

313 SFGoth  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:08:13pm

The funny thing is, I'm being excoriated here in town for being an extreme Right Winger.

314 solomonpanting  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:08:13pm

re: #269 Racer X

In one minute, 13 humans are going to float overhead, 200 miles above. SoCal.

If it came from the southwest it passed by about five minutes ago.
Thanks.

315 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:08:58pm

re: #311 Chekote

McCain owes the country and the Republican party an apology for bringing Palin into the national spotlight. It will be very difficult to deal with her fans.

I agree, but as far as I'm concerned, Sarah Palin is at best number three or four on the list of things McCain should apologize to America for.

316 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:09:19pm

re: #311 Chekote

McCain owes the country and the Republican party an apology for bringing Palin into the national spotlight. It will be very difficult to deal with her fans.

I can't really blame McCain. He was a weak candidate who ran a lousy campaign and couldn't manage his staff. Palin is like Ron Paul, Glenn Beck and Joe the Plumber. They are all symptoms of a much larger problem.

317 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:09:29pm

re: #308 theheat

I will say, as much as I dislike her, Palin took a lot of criticism for a lot of bullshit, and was accused of things she didn't do. She was smeared. However, I made my decisions about her without that.

She is a nice lady and I wish her well. I hope she gets rich. But, she will never be the nominee of the GOP, ever. She may get many votes in a primary, but she does not have the wattage necessary to win the nomination. She is only confirming that fact with this odd Facebook diplomacy she is currently undertaking.

318 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:09:43pm

re: #309 Charles

charles at littlegreen etc.

That's what I would have guessed.

OK, sent.

319 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:09:50pm

Goodnight sweet Lizards. I must get my beauty sleep for my son's big event. I want to be the fourth most beautiful woman there (the others being the bride, her mother, and my youngest unmarried daughter)

320 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:10:59pm

re: #317 Desert Dog

She is a nice lady and I wish her well. I hope she gets rich. But, she will never be the nominee of the GOP, ever. She may get many votes in a primary, but she does not have the wattage necessary to win the nomination. She is only confirming that fact with this odd Facebook diplomacy she is currently undertaking.

She has cemented her place as small town.

321 Locker  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:11:02pm

Thank you for posting this Charles. Additionally I would like to thank the LGF conservative readership. Even if you don't agree with everything he posts, even if you don't agree with this, I thank you for your willingness to consider ideas. Such is the path to true critical thinking. Nice one

322 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:12:45pm

re: #319 Alouette

Goodnight sweet Lizards. I must get my beauty sleep for my son's big event. I want to be the fourth most beautiful woman there (the others being the bride, her mother, and my youngest unmarried daughter)

That's sweet, but you are at worst first runner up!

323 wee fury  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:12:59pm

My family reunion this weekend seemed to be a cross-section of the USA. A lot of nuts in the bunch.

324 lazardo  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:13:14pm

re: #313 SFGoth

The funny thing is, I'm being excoriated here in town for being an extreme Right Winger.

If SF stands for San Francisco, then "extreme right-wing" encompasses all but a small minority of people. q;

325 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:13:43pm

re: #312 lazardo

All those Beckites etc. at the health care protests and town halls, the tea parties, Palin and Ron Paul becoming the "standard bearers" and, most damningly, the general lack of criticism from what is supposed to be the "reasonable" sector of the right wing.

Laura Bush and LGF being relieving if not rather isolated exceptions.

I like you Zardo, but contrary to the current portrayal, the GOP is not run by Sarah Palin, Ron Paul, Glenn Beck, the John Birch Society, et al. It really isn't. The main problem with the GOP today is nobody is running it. There are still millions and millions of people who reject the fringe and still have all of their conservative bearings in order.

326 TheMatrix31  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:14:02pm

re: #315 Last Mohican

I agree, but as far as I'm concerned, Sarah Palin is at best number three or four on the list of things McCain should apologize to America for.

I don't agree with having to apologize for her, but I do agree that he has a LOT more to apologize for before that.

327 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:15:01pm

re: #318 Gus 802

That's what I would have guessed.

OK, sent.

Isn't that lovely! They're threatening to commit violence. The cute little tykes.

328 lazardo  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:15:34pm

re: #325 Desert Dog

I like you Zardo, but contrary to the current portrayal, the GOP is not run by Sarah Palin, Ron Paul, Glenn Beck, the John Birch Society, et al. It really isn't. The main problem with the GOP today is nobody is running it. There are still millions and millions of people who reject the fringe and still have all of their conservative bearings in order.

I'm sure you'd fit into that group of conservatives with their bearings in order, mind. But we can plainly see that these kooks are very much ahead in their efforts to wield some very significant control of the GOP base.

329 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:16:27pm

re: #327 Charles

Isn't that lovely! They're threatening to commit violence. The cute little tykes.

Yeah, there was one more but it was directed to Irish Rose.

Hope that's useful.

330 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:17:00pm

re: #329 Gus 802

Yeah, there was one more but it was directed to Irish Rose.

Hope that's useful.

It will be.

331 Locker  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:17:00pm

re: #328 lazardo

I'm sure you'd fit into that group of conservatives with their bearings in order, mind. But we can plainly see that these kooks are very much ahead in their efforts to wield some very significant control of the GOP base.

I don't know about that to be honest. I might tend to agree with Dog on this one. Those talking heads can babble all day long but they don't control how the majority block votes. I don't think anyone person or source does to be honest. I completely accept that the loud fringe is just that... the fringe.

332 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:17:38pm

re: #330 Charles

It will be.

Great.

333 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:19:40pm

re: #316 Killgore Trout

I can't really blame McCain. He was a weak candidate who ran a lousy campaign and couldn't manage his staff. Palin is like Ron Paul, Glenn Beck and Joe the Plumber. They are all symptoms of a much larger problem.

And, he still got 59 million votes. Are all 59 million wingnut retards? Obama came in after 8 years of an unpopular President and two unpopular wars. He did it with the full compliance and backing of a willing MSM.

I want to remember all of these premature epitahs of the Republican Party when they start taking back seats in 2010 and give El Presidente Obama a serious run for his money in 2012.

334 doubter4444  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:19:56pm

re: #24 Ringo the Gringo

Laura Bush is a class act.

My feelings exactly.
I've always thought the best of her.
God bless her.

335 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:20:51pm

re: #328 lazardo

I'm sure you'd fit into that group of conservatives with their bearings in order, mind. But we can plainly see that these kooks are very much ahead in their efforts to wield some very significant control of the GOP base.

You overestimate the power of these idiots.

336 Locker  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:21:53pm

re: #333 Desert Dog

And, he still got 59 million votes. Are all 59 million wingnut retards? Obama came in after 8 years of an unpopular President and two unpopular wars. He did it with the full compliance and backing of a willing MSM.

I want to remember all of these premature epitahs of the Republican Party when they start taking back seats in 2010 and give El Presidente Obama a serious run for his money in 2012.

Stated this before but I was seriously considering McCain as my choice until he picked Sarah Palin. He probably would have won with a bit less ring and a bit less vocal VP pick. LOTS of my independant lefty friends liked McCain. We celebrated when he won the nomination.

337 doubter4444  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:21:58pm

re: #111 tradewind

Democrats at DU and Kos. Haven't you seen their lovely stories of how she ran down a teenager in cold blood and the media covered it up?
///

I know it's sarcasm, but it's still not nice, sorry.

338 Locker  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:22:23pm

re: #336 Locker

Stated this before but I was seriously considering McCain as my choice until he picked Sarah Palin. He probably would have won with a bit less ring and a bit less vocal VP pick. LOTS of my independant lefty friends liked McCain. We celebrated when he won the nomination.

right

339 lazardo  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:23:05pm

re: #335 Desert Dog

Ah, but it's only 2009. And I've yet to see a moderate GOP candidate that can convince me otherwise.

340 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:25:57pm

The hardcore anti-climate change propagandists are now showing up in the previous thread.

Just had someone actually deny that CO2 is a greenhouse gas -- when there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that it IS. The science behind that is completely solid and has been for many years.

341 doubter4444  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:26:01pm

re: #27 Mich-again

Laura said..

Isn't gerrymandering supposed to prevent that? Carve up the districts so your side has some minimum advantage in as many districts as possible to win the most seats possible, and not to waste all those votes in just one district.

Talk to Mr. Delay about redrawing district lines, he made a craft out of it.
It's the wrong thing to do, Dem or Rep.

342 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:26:52pm

re: #336 Locker

Stated this before but I was seriously considering McCain as my choice until he picked Sarah Palin. He probably would have won with a bit less ring and a bit less vocal VP pick. LOTS of my independant lefty friends liked McCain. We celebrated when he won the nomination.

I don't think any Republican had a chance to win last election. People grew weary of GWB. The Republicans had control of the Congress for many years and blew it, bad. The pendulum swings back and forth in the country and has for 200+ years. Right now, it's the Dems turn. People will get sick of them and their policies and vote in a Republican. It has always been this way in the USA. There will probably never be an unending majority for either party. We are spilt 4 ways here: Left, Right, left-center and right-center. The left and the right are already spoken for. The center people are the ones that can't make up their minds.

343 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:27:10pm

Oh my! In spite of the danger of infection to my recent slashed leg, I have been over dredging the fever swamp SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO! Tonight's haul of ODS sludge and decomposed nut-droppings includes a real whopper:

Is it time yet? Can we start calling Obama a Communist now?

This post is a "vanity," meaning that it was originated by the poster and is not a news item or blog entry from elsewhere. It seems to be meeting with a lot of approval.

344 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:28:18pm

re: #340 Charles

The hardcore anti-climate change propagandists are now showing up in the previous thread.

Just had someone actually deny that CO2 is a greenhouse gas -- when there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that it IS. The science behind that is completely solid and has been for many years.

Now that's funny. Denying that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?

345 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:28:48pm

re: #339 lazardo

Ah, but it's only 2009. And I've yet to see a moderate GOP candidate that can convince me otherwise.

Me neither, but, as you said, it's 2009...Think about GWB on Sept 7 2001. A lot changed from that point in his Presidency until the next election. I am sure things will change for Obama too. Things out of his control. I hope there is nothing bad heading our way.

346 mt3_1234  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:29:39pm

re: #340 Charles

The hardcore anti-climate change propagandists are now showing up in the previous thread.

Just had someone actually deny that CO2 is a greenhouse gas -- when there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that it IS. The science behind that is completely solid and has been for many years.

WE"RE UNDER ATTACK!

347 lazardo  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:30:02pm

re: #343 Shiplord Kirel

How to treat the symptoms of ODS, Philippine-style:

348 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:30:08pm

Time for me to get some sleep/ Talk to you all tomorroy.

349 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:30:54pm

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

Time for me to get some sleep/ Talk to you all tomorroy.

Later DF! ;)

350 lazardo  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:31:01pm

re: #348 Dark_Falcon

Nighty. Better let your typing fingers rest. q;

351 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:31:13pm

re: #340 Charles

Imagine these people bashing their pitchfork up and down, mumbling about "Climate change is just baaad science". Lather, rinse, repeat.

They hang garlic on the door to keep evil scientists away, too.

352 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:31:22pm

re: #336 Locker

Stated this before but I was seriously considering McCain as my choice until he picked Sarah Palin. He probably would have won with a bit less ring and a bit less vocal VP pick. LOTS of my independant lefty friends liked McCain. We celebrated when he won the nomination.


That's nice to say, but not a chance ya'll would have actually voted for him. Big dif.

353 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:31:23pm

re: #344 Gus 802

Now that's funny. Denying that CO2 is a greenhouse gas?

If I may quote from this article, which is currently number two on our top-rated links list:

if you buy into the notion that carbon dioxide, plant food that you exhale with every breath, is a pollutant and a threat to the future of life on the earth,

Good point, right? Carbon dioxide can't be bad... we exhale it with every breath!

354 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:31:45pm

Coming up next. Volcanic ash and how it "doesn't" counteract the El Niño effect.

355 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:32:01pm

Just watched the video, and all I can say is God Bless Laura Bush. Such a classy and gracious woman. It was nice to see her, she looks great and I hope she and President Bush are enjoying private life.

356 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:32:29pm

re: #340 Charles

The hardcore anti-climate change propagandists are now showing up in the previous thread.

Just had someone actually deny that CO2 is a greenhouse gas -- when there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that it IS. The science behind that is completely solid and has been for many years.

Have you gotten the "Carbon has 6 electrons, 6 protons and 6 neutrons - 666!" 'argument' forwarded yet? That is a humdinger - that anyone who believes in AGW is doing the work of SATAN.

357 Desert Dog  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:32:32pm

Night all...play nice

358 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:33:48pm

re: #353 Last Mohican

If I may quote from this article, which is currently number two on our top-rated links list...

Not any more.

359 EaterOfFood  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:33:59pm

re: #22 Racer X

When Democrats were not sitting in the white house they were mad, and many on the left went lunatic. Now we see the reverse. Many on the right are mad that Obama is the prez, and they are getting downright scary lunatic.

Get over it, get a plan, stick to your principles and win people over with facts.

I'm afraid the days of principles and decency are closer to their end than to their beginning, if this century is any indication. I have been to message boards where leftists use not serving in a war they opposed (Vietnam) to attack a Republican, but when reminded of what (and who) Bill Clinton was doing during at that same time, they remain unmoved.

360 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:34:06pm

re: #351 theheat

There are a bunch of 3's in that painting, also. You multiply those and get at least one or two 666's.

ooga booga
//

361 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:34:18pm

re: #353 Last Mohican

Good point, right? Carbon dioxide can't be bad... we exhale it with every breath!

Not in above normal quantities. Even outside of an AGW model the CO2 model works. In other words, even if the increase was natural, the CO2 would cause warming.

More or less.

362 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:34:21pm

re: #356 karmic_inquisitor

Have you gotten the "Carbon has 6 electrons, 6 protons and 6 neutrons - 666!" 'argument' forwarded yet? That is a humdinger - that anyone who believes in AGW is doing the work of SATAN.

I wish I thought you were kidding.

363 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:35:40pm

re: #362 Charles

I wish I thought you were kidding.

It will come. You will hear it. I have.

364 lazardo  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:36:05pm

re: #356 karmic_inquisitor

Sssshhh! Don't let them know about the machinery in my basement!

/ q;

365 jaunte  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:36:34pm

re: #356 karmic_inquisitor

So some people want to sequester Satan, and others want to keep releasing him?

366 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:37:33pm

re: #353 Last Mohican

Good point, right? Carbon dioxide can't be bad... we exhale it with every breath!

Well, we also excrete feces and it too is good plant food (ever been to Korea?) but I don't want my house knee-deep in it.

367 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:38:06pm

re: #363 karmic_inquisitor

It will come. You will hear it. I have.


Boy howdy!

368 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:38:30pm

re: #366 Shiplord Kirel

Humanure.

369 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:38:37pm

re: #356 karmic_inquisitor

Have you gotten the "Carbon has 6 electrons, 6 protons and 6 neutrons - 666!" 'argument' forwarded yet? That is a humdinger - that anyone who believes in AGW is doing the work of SATAN.

Really? Gotta love it. This is like human behavior at work. More to the point we're starting to see a lot of mysticism being applied to this "debate."

666

370 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:39:07pm

Now we have a creationist in the previous thread telling us that global warming is a hoax.

371 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:40:20pm

re: #340 Charles

It comes from the left, so it must be a blatant lie.
/

I swear, sometimes I think those on the left could get everything they desire, handed to them on a silver-fucking-platter even, if they just retooled their strategy a little.

All they would have to do is express a position on any given issue that is the exact opposite of what they actually want, and their opponents on the right would trip over each other to give them exactly what they want.

372 jaunte  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:40:36pm

re: #370 Charles

Creationists sure know their way around hoaxes.

373 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:40:46pm

john hardwood on the obama speech

374 Bagua  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:41:50pm

re: #82 shug

More Birther Madness. Now this reporter faces jail time.

Will this madness ever go away?

The high resolution of his madness

Look at the comments?
These people are clinically insane

Dear me, it looks like someone will be going to jail.

375 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:42:06pm

Woops, there I go again up-dinging instead of down-dinging.

376 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:42:42pm

re: #373 spacejesus

Is that his real hair?

377 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:44:04pm

re: #293 Desert Dog

I think something must have happened to him in the past few years... I saw him at a live show two years ago, and he was totally hilarious and quite sane... very funny and not at all like he is today. The shows were selling out, and for good reason, it was a great act. He went heavy on satirical social commentary, less specifically political , but he was quite good natured and not at all wild eyed. Not even close to tears once.
Yeah, there had to be something.

378 SpaceJesus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:45:24pm

re: #376 theheat

Is that his real hair?

dunno. should i email him?

379 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:46:33pm

Even on an anecdotal level it feels warmer. It hasn't been a hot summer where I'm at but it's been mild since early March. The average is warmer.

380 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:46:56pm

re: #337 doubter4444

The only sarcasm was the ' lovely part '. I was quite serious. They systematically trashed her there and on other liberal blogs while Bush was running and in the WH with those stories, all full of misinformation and inaccurate detail.

381 freetoken  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:48:24pm

re: #340 Charles

I plan on revisiting that thread... but not until the wee hours of the morn, as I figure by then most of the bellyache will be over and only the sleepers will come out.

382 lazardo  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:49:19pm

re: #370 Charles

Now we have a creationist in the previous thread telling us that global warming is a hoax.

GLOBUL WARMIN IZ AN INSAHD JAWB!

/wait for it...wait for it...

383 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:49:46pm

re: #381 freetoken

I plan on revisiting that thread... but not until the wee hours of the morn, as I figure by then most of the bellyache will be over and only the sleepers will come out.

Is that when we get a counterpoint from Pastor Manning regarding the science?

/

384 SFGoth  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:49:56pm

re: #340 Charles

The hardcore anti-climate change propagandists are now showing up in the previous thread.

Just had someone actually deny that CO2 is a greenhouse gas -- when there is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that it IS. The science behind that is completely solid and has been for many years.

I'm sure N2O will be shown to be a greenhouse gas, but you'll have to pry my whip-its from my cold, dead hand.

385 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:50:08pm

re: #381 freetoken

I plan on revisiting that thread... but not until the wee hours of the morn, as I figure by then most of the bellyache will be over and only the sleepers will come out.

I'm always a little surprised to see someone actually claim that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas. It takes sheer ignorance to make that claim -- or else sheer cynicism and dishonesty.

386 Jack Burton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:50:31pm

re: #382 lazardo

GLOBUL WARMIN IZ AN INSAHD JAWB!

/wait for it...wait for it...

Is the "GW on Mars" red herring the equivalent to "Building 7!!1!1!"?

387 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:50:34pm

re: #374 Bagua

Dear me, it looks like someone will be going to jail.

Wow, I missed shug's links the first time through.

There sure is a lot of crazy over at that site.

388 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:51:00pm

Every time I eat beans, my body "exhales" methane. Perfectly natural, but not something we want high levels of in our atmosphere.

Calling CO2 a perfectly harmless plant food as a way to deny that it is a greenhouse gas, and in effect deny that it can contribute to global warming, is on a level so stupid that it absolutely dwarfs the collective stupidity demonstrated on FailBlog.

390 EaterOfFood  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:53:43pm

re: #175 Charles

Florida Republican Marco Rubio calls for the GOP to get even more crazy:

[Link: www.theledger.com...]

Rubio is a creationist who is pushing to sneak it into Florida's schools.

Of course.

All these creationists make me wonder if man evolved from apes or jackasses.

391 freetoken  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:54:46pm

re: #385 Charles

I know. Which is why I always point people to the AIP website, so they can read that the issue of CO2 absorbing IR radiation was discussed a century ago.

Also, since I feel that most of the combat over the issue isn't really about science I am now putting many of the links, when I put them in the spin-offs, into the "culture" category as I feel what we are seeing is just a new version of the culture wars.

What I personally find disheartening is that so many of the people who like to dismiss the idea of AGW never really take the time to investigate the real science sources.

392 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:55:06pm

re: #374 Bagua

Dear me, it looks like someone will be going to jail.

Yikes! As the increasingly popular aphorism goes, you're entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts; especially if you're presenting them in federal court.

Lock him up!

393 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:55:52pm

re: #385 Charles

I'm always a little surprised to see someone actually claim that CO2 is not a greenhouse gas. It takes sheer ignorance to make that claim -- or else sheer cynicism and deception.

But carbon dioxide is a natural by-product of nature! It's necessary to the fowl that flies in the air!

--Michelle Bachmann, noted climate scientist

394 lazardo  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:58:11pm

re: #386 ArchangelMichael

Not sure, but I did spot some dancing scientists a while ago.

/

395 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:58:19pm

re: #374 Bagua

Dear me, it looks like someone will be going to jail.

Hey, now you've got me thinking.

What are the chances that a couple of Medical Records employees at Coast Province General Hospital are currently laughing their asses off about the fake Obama birth certificate that they typed up and gave to Lucas Smith?

396 freetoken  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 9:59:59pm

re: #390 EaterOfFood

Speaking of those Florida politics, I wonder if Rubio isn't hinting at Crist's supposed closeted homosexuality when Rubio is dissing Crist for putting James E.C. Perry on the Florida SC.

397 Bagua  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:01:16pm

re: #395 Last Mohican

Hey, now you've got me thinking.

What are the chances that a couple of Medical Records employees at Coast Province General Hospital are currently laughing their asses off about the fake Obama birth certificate that they typed up and gave to Lucas Smith?

Well, it would be helpful to Mr. if that even took place,

398 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:02:24pm

re: #397 Bagua

Well, it would be helpful to Mr. if that even took place,

Mr. who?

399 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:03:43pm

I'm so tired of it all. Well, I'm tired because of the late hour too!

I'm off to read a while.

weet dreams all!

400 Bagua  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:03:48pm

Smith

401 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:04:52pm

The donkey is tired and thin
The elephant wants to move in
they yell and they fuss, but they ain't fooling us
'Cause they're brothers right under the skin

It's the same, same merry go round
Which one will you ride this year?
The donkey and elephant bob up and down on the
Same merry go round

— Oscar Brand

402 SFGoth  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:04:59pm

re: #396 freetoken

Speaking of those Florida politics, I wonder if Rubio isn't hinting at Crist's supposed closeted homosexuality when Rubio is dissing Crist for putting James E.C. Perry on the Florida SC.

The sooner the party gets over buttf*cking, the better off it will be. After all, the GOP has been committing political sodomy since 2000.

403 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:05:48pm

Anybody else getting the Michelle 0bama porcelain doll sidebar ad?

404 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:06:32pm

re: #396 freetoken

Speaking of those Florida politics, I wonder if Rubio isn't hinting at Crist's supposed closeted homosexuality when Rubio is dissing Crist for putting James E.C. Perry on the Florida SC.

This from a guy with a first name of Marco. /

I've heard it before. It's tedious. There are gay people in this world. I guess Marco Rubio wants to play culture wars. What a surprise.

405 jaunte  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:06:34pm

Goodnight all. Keep on trying.

‘Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believing as we already do.’
— James Harvey Robinson

406 laZardo  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:07:28pm

re: #402 SFGoth

The sooner the party gets over buttf*cking, the better off it will be. After all, the GOP has been committing political sodomy since 2000.

HOMOPOHBE!

/because RACSIT! was sooo~ last January 19.

407 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:07:56pm

re: #403 Fenway_Nation

I'll trade you for the GothScene dating ad.

408 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:08:11pm

There isn't a single right wing blog that's linking to this Laura Bush interview. Not one.

409 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:09:04pm

re: #408 Charles

There isn't a single right wing blog that's linking to this Laura Bush interview. Not one.

I mentioned that earlier. They won't.

410 mt3_1234  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:09:15pm

re: #408 Charles

There isn't a single right wing blog that's linking to this Laura Bush interview. Not one.

goes against the party line?

411 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:09:17pm

re: #408 Charles

There isn't a single right wing blog that's linking to this Laura Bush interview. Not one.

Why do they hate Laura Bush?

412 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:10:19pm

re: #410 mt3_1234

goes against the party line?

As a matter of fact yes. It does.

413 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:10:26pm

re: #408 Charles

Calm reasoning is no longer in fashion.

414 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:10:27pm

re: #403 Fenway_Nation

WTH? No, I don't have any sidebar ads at all. Only text links.

re: #378 SpaceJesus

dunno. should i email him?

Well, if you wouldn't mind... I gots to know.

415 Jack Burton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:11:05pm

re: #411 Sharmuta

Why do they hate Laura Bush?

"We're not being overly partisan! We aren't grasping at conspiracy theories! We are speaking troof to powah!"

More Rules for Radicals, The Right-Wing Edition®.

416 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:11:53pm

re: #408 Charles

Proves this blog Centrist.

Good night again ...

417 Silvergirl  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:11:58pm

re: #409 Gus 802

I mentioned that earlier. They won't.

Not outrageous enough. No blood, sweat, or tears.

418 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:12:48pm

Laura is going to have to ramp it up a little if she wants to be relevent...

419 Coracle  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:13:08pm

re: #408 Charles

There isn't a single right wing blog that's linking to this Laura Bush interview. Not one.

Rawstory has it, TPM, Huffpo, Politico...

Holy crap. Laura must be a commie. It'll be confirmed once Kos covers it.

420 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:13:27pm

re: #407 tradewind
Michelle 0bama has a profile on GothScene?
/

421 Jack Burton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:13:54pm

re: #418 The Shadow Do

Laura is going to have to ramp it up a little if she wants to be relevent...

She needs to cry, or blame the Federal Reserve. Then people will listen.

/

422 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:14:46pm

re: #417 Silvergirl

Not outrageous enough. No blood, sweat, or tears.

Sort of. They'll ignore it because it doesn't validate their agenda. If anything Mrs. Bush pleas for calm and in a way validates the opposite of the hysterical pitchfork crowds.

423 laZardo  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:14:49pm

Heading off to college. Cheers.

424 Jack Burton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:14:57pm

re: #420 Fenway_Nation

Michelle 0bama has a profile on GothScene?
/

ROFL. That would be hilarious. I can't see her with purple hair, in a black corset, and 6 inch heels.

425 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:16:39pm

re: #421 ArchangelMichael

Celebrity Rehab, Dancing With the Stars... She's missing a lot of opportunities to look ridiculous and stay relevant. Thank goodness.

I like it better when they don't spill their guts, fall apart, and look like loons. She's holding up extremely well.

426 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:17:51pm

The Scientist

Language warning.

427 Irish Rose  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:20:56pm

Good evening, lizards.
Nice to see Mrs. Bush on the mainpage, she is missed.

A very classy lady.

428 TheMatrix31  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:21:02pm

re: #424 ArchangelMichael

ROFL. That would be hilarious. I can't see her with purple hair, in a black corset, and 6 inch heels.

That's fucking disgusting.

429 Silvergirl  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:21:14pm

re: #422 Gus 802

Sort of. They'll ignore it because it doesn't validate their agenda. If anything Mrs. Bush pleas for calm and in a way validates the opposite of the hysterical pitchfork crowds.

This was my point. I used fewer words, but apparently wasn't so clear.

430 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:21:18pm
PRAISE BE TO JESUS THAT THE ANTICHRIST IS DISCOVERED!

--One of the comments on that blog that's posting about Obama's newly discovered "real true actual Kenyan birth certificate."

431 Bagua  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:22:19pm

re: #430 Last Mohican

--One of the comments on that blog that's posting about Obama's newly discovered "real true actual Kenyan birth certificate."

Yup, what with the end of days and all.

432 Jack Burton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:22:45pm

re: #430 Last Mohican

--One of the comments on that blog that's posting about Obama's newly discovered "real true actual Kenyan birth certificate."

I must have missed this earlier. There is another bogus "true" nirth certifikit floating around in the kookosphere?

433 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:23:45pm

re: #432 ArchangelMichael

I must have missed this earlier. There is another bogus "true" nirth certifikit floating around in the kookosphere?

There are several, actually. There's a little closet industry in phony nirth certifikits.

434 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:23:54pm

re: #432 ArchangelMichael

I must have missed this earlier. There is another bogus "true" nirth certifikit floating around in the kookosphere?

Yup. See shug's #82. I missed it the first time through, too.

Get the popcorn ready for this one.

435 theheat  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:23:58pm

re: #426 Gus 802

Combine that with this, and that sums up my opinion of O'Reilly. He's quite revolting, in spite of whatever kernels of wisdom he metes out over a year's time.

I have chores to do. Gotta go.

436 Bagua  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:24:07pm

re: #432 ArchangelMichael

Not just floating about, submitted in court with an affidavit.

437 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:25:05pm

I think the former first lady, Laura Bush, shows what the combination of intelligence and beauty are. Beauty of the mind and spirit. And she has always been a good partner, as far as I can tell. She does NOT air dirty laundry in public.

438 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:27:18pm

Laura Bush is a very classy lady, and you know what? Her husband has been pretty classy too.

439 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:28:08pm

Bear outside. Husky and red heeler outside barking. I went out on the front porch, the two largest garbage cans in the driveway are turned over, didn't see any garbage scattered, but I think I'll wait till morning to check. Not a good idea to be walking around outside right now.

440 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:28:24pm

Back on Laura Bush... I recall hearing all kinds of BDS sufferers slagging on her for her "look", her style.

"The way she dresses, the way she smiles, she always looks like one of those fake, plastic figures on top of a wedding cake."

"She looks like one of those mindless, robotic Stepford Wives."

Lame criticisms, of course, but something to keep in mind the next time you hear someone slag on Mrs. Obama's "look".

441 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:28:28pm

re: #433 Charles

There are several, actually. There's a little closet industry in phony nirth certifikits.

"Industry" seems like an apt word for it. This guy Lucas Smith swears in a signed affidavit that he flew to Kenya with a wallet full of cash, and then started handing out bribes in a hospital there, so that he could obtain the real birth certificate.

If I were working in that hospital, I think I might have been tempted to type up a little something and sell it to Mr. Smith.

Anyway that's my current hypothesis: maybe Smith isn't actually lying, he's just a fool who was parted from his money.

442 mt3_1234  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:29:46pm

re: #430 Last Mohican

--One of the comments on that blog that's posting about Obama's newly discovered "real true actual Kenyan birth certificate."

i didn't know the antichrist was Kenyan
///

443 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:30:04pm

re: #427 Irish Rose
I was wondering why they were do upset with you at the stalker/hate site today, now I understand.
Nice work!

444 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:30:28pm

re: #439 Walter L. Newton

Stay safe! Dogs are good! What else do you do "special" now that you are living in "bear country"? We have snap tight lids on the trash cans, to keep the critters out. No bears here...

445 Silvergirl  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:30:32pm

re: #440 Slumbering Behemoth

Back on Laura Bush... I recall hearing all kinds of BDS sufferers slagging on her for her "look", her style.

"The way she dresses, the way she smiles, she always looks like one of those fake, plastic figures on top of a wedding cake."

"She looks like one of those mindless, robotic Stepford Wives."

Lame criticisms, of course, but something to keep in mind the next time you hear someone slag on Mrs. Obama's "look".

When Michelle Obama got that short haircut, it was "What was she thinking? She looks like Laura Bush!"

446 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:30:48pm

re: #441 Last Mohican

"Industry" seems like an apt word for it. This guy Lucas Smith swears in a signed affidavit that he flew to Kenya with a wallet full of cash, and then started handing out bribes in a hospital there, so that he could obtain the real birth certificate.

If I were working in that hospital, I think I might have been tempted to type up a little something and sell it to Mr. Smith.

Yeah, now that's brilliant. Go to Kenya and start handing out bribes.

Who would ever think there might be a problem with that approach?

Good grief.

447 Irish Rose  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:31:41pm

re: #443 Reginald Perrin

I was wondering why they were do upset with you at the stalker/hate site today, now I understand.
Nice work!

... 'twas nothing, really.
Like I said earlier, they're dumber than a load of bricks.

448 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:32:19pm

re: #442 mt3_1234

i didn't know the antichrist was Kenyan
///

"Obama's Kenyan Origin"

Count the letters.

449 Shiplord Kirel  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:32:36pm

Pray for America's Children Tomorrow

Tomorrow as we send our children and grandchildren off to school, I ask that each of you take the time to pray in EARNEST that their minds, their souls and their spirits are UNTOUCHED by what will be fed them. I realize you've all been doing this already...but I felt led to post this as a reminder.

I think they would suffer less damage from being shown Faces of Death parts I-VII and The East is Red in succession than they will from having to go home to bug-eyed crazy parents every day.

450 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:33:02pm

re: #447 Irish Rose

LOL!
Box of rocks, they are!
French fry short of a Happy Meal?

451 Irish Rose  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:33:33pm

re: #450 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
Box of rocks, they are!
French fry short of a Happy Meal?

Don't get me started ;).

452 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:33:58pm

re: #435 theheat

Combine that with this, and that sums up my opinion of O'Reilly. He's quite revolting, in spite of whatever kernels of wisdom he metes out over a year's time.

I have chores to do. Gotta go.

That I know.

O'Reilly was hit with a sexual harassment lawsuit.

Roger Ailes was part of the racist Southern Strategy.

Rush Limbaugh was addicted to Oxycontin and almost convicted of doctor shopping.

Glenn Beck is a self admitted drug abuser and recovering substance abuser.

453 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:34:07pm

re: #451 Irish Rose

Yes, please DO!

454 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:34:38pm

"With Obama we can talk, we are almost from the same generation, one can't deny that Obama is different (from Bush). He's intelligent, he has good intentions and we have to help him."

"I'm entirely dedicated to building a real democratic model in Venezuela. As Abraham Lincoln said, what is democracy? It is not the system by which a rich minority exploits the people. It is government by the people and for the people."
- Hugo Chavez (enjoying the company of Oliver Stone)

455 Jack Burton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:35:04pm

re: #446 Charles

Yeah, now that's brilliant. Go to Kenya and start handing out bribes.

Who would ever think there might be a problem with that approach?

Good grief.

Yeah which is more likely. Someone infiltrated or paid off Hawaiian state government officials to plant a fake birth certificate, and go around the country to alter the microfiche records of Honolulu newspapers on the day after BHO's birthdate to include a fake birth announcement... or

Bribing some cleptocrat "officials" in a 3rd world country to produce a phony document to to make a phony claim.

Honestly... its a toss up. ///

456 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:35:21pm

re: #450 Floral Giraffe

I've always been fond of the phrase "Sharp as a bag of wet cotton balls".

457 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:35:50pm

re: #446 Charles

Yeah, now that's brilliant. Go to Kenya and start handing out bribes.

Who would ever think there might be a problem with that approach?

Good grief.

According to comment number 15 on the second freakazoid blog that shug linked to, even World Net Daily has debunked Lucas Smith's Kenyan birth certificate.

Ouch.

458 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:36:52pm

re: #456 Slumbering Behemoth

Never heard that one before!
See, I learn something here, everyday!
Keep 'em coming!

459 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:37:31pm

Lee Atwater:

You start out in 1954 by saying, “Ni**er, ni**er, n**er.” By 1968 you can't say “ni**er”—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

460 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:37:55pm

re: #451 Irish Rose
Don't get me started ;).

Coward!
/

461 Bagua  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:39:17pm

re: #457 Last Mohican

even World Net Daily has debunked Lucas Smith's Kenyan birth certificate.

Ouch.

Times ain't what they used to be. No unity...

462 Irish Rose  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:39:39pm

re: #460 Reginald Perrin

Don't get me started ;).

Coward!
/

I challenge thee to a duel ;).

463 Fenway_Nation  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:41:28pm

re: #454 The Shadow Do

The same Hugo Chavez who's shutting down another 17 radio stations this month?

464 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:41:39pm

re: #457 Last Mohican

...even World Net Daily has debunked Lucas Smith's Kenyan birth certificate.

Ouch.

The Republican National Committee is a major advertiser on the Weird Nut Drooly site. The crap you read there is being directly subsidized by the GOP.

465 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:42:14pm

re: #462 Irish Rose

Chose your weapons!

466 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:42:38pm

re: #458 Floral Giraffe

Thinking of keen, as in describing the sharpness of a blade's edge:

"An intellect as keen as a q-tip"

467 tradewind  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:43:03pm

re: #440 Slumbering Behemoth
I think Michelle Obama usually looks okay, but you would never have caught Laura Bush going to the corner grocery, much less going out sightseeing in England, in this get up..

Image: michelle-obama-orange-dress.jpg

468 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:43:05pm

re: #463 Fenway_Nation

The same Hugo Chavez who's shutting down liberating another 17 radio stations this month?

FTFY, comrade.

469 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:44:37pm

re: #465 Reginald Perrin

Can I pick?
Wet noodles at 50 paces!
HAH!

470 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:45:42pm

re: #463 Fenway_Nation

The same Hugo Chavez who's shutting down another 17 radio stations this month?

Democracy! Abraham Lincoln! Oliver Stone!

Chavez also said his democratic credentials remained intact despite concerns over moves to crack down on the independent media and political opposition.

Thousands of people took to the streets of Caracas over the weekend to voice their opposition to the president, who has been in power for a decade and says he needs another 10 years to pursue his socialist reforms.

"In Venezuela, no television channel has been closed despite the fact that in many cases the television channels supported a coup d'etat," he said.

"Noam Chomsky ... was asked in an interview what would happen if Fox News or CNN had supported a coup against a president. Chomsky replied that not only would those channels have been closed, but their owners would have been sent to the electric chair.

471 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:45:49pm

re: #464 Charles

Is there not a sane voice left to be heard within the GOP? Are we left with nothing but moronic rabble-rousers?

:sigh:

472 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:46:25pm
473 Charles Johnson  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:47:34pm

Ooh, someone doesn't like me at Marc Cooper's site:

LGF has basically gone from dishonestly focusing on extreme nutbars on the left as if they are representative of most liberals to dishonestly focusing on focusing on extreme nutbars on the right to smear conservatives, using the usual rhetoric about “taints”, guilt by association and “not doing enough to distance yourself from them”. It’s tedious either way and attempts to substitute ritualised shunning as a substitute for debate.

Charles Johnson is only a “centrist” in the sense that the people he is prepared to respectfully disagree with inhabit the region plus or minus 5% from the middle of the ideological spectrum. Everyone else is an “extremist” whose opinions are beyond the pale and should not be dignified with a response etc etc. How boring. This is why meaningful political debates no longer happen.

474 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:48:06pm

It's a little late at night to start sleuthing, but I can't help but note that, in Lucas Smith's Kenyan birth certificate, the dates are in M/D/YYY format, the way we do it in America. However, in Kenya, they use D/M/YYY format.

So maybe he didn't even purchase a forgery in Kenya. Maybe he just typed the thing up himself in his basement.

475 freetoken  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:48:59pm

re: #471 Slumbering Behemoth

There are still elder GOP elected officials who haven't drunk the kool-aid. However, whenever they come out these days and try to speak rationally they get hit with "RINO" type of charges. People like Dick Lugar, etc. Gov. Huntsman was another one... and he has been smeared ever since agreeing to take one of the more important ambassadorial positions.

476 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:49:19pm

re: #444 Floral Giraffe

Stay safe! Dogs are good! What else do you do "special" now that you are living in "bear country"? We have snap tight lids on the trash cans, to keep the critters out. No bears here...

Nothing. Snap on lids, but that doesn't stop much from happening, doesn't stop bears from smelling food, and if they want into the cans, they can get in. We are keeping the cans in the driveway now, and not on the porch with the six foot fence, since two weeks ago, a bear simply swiped through two parts of the fence to get to the garbage. I posted pictures on LGF, it was a mess.

I'm safe.

You're right, the best thing is the dogs. And the red heeler has actually chased a bear and was snapping at it's back legs. Bear looked at him like "dogs aren't supposed to do that" and ran off.

477 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:49:21pm

Watch out for the Killer Wabbit...
iEEE

478 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:49:35pm

re: #473 Charles

Ooh, someone doesn't like me at Marc Cooper's site:

Charles, why are you so boring?

*snort*

479 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:51:27pm

re: #473 Charles

Ooh, someone doesn't like me at Marc Cooper's site:

Yeah, but you know that the critics are learning disabled.

Seriously. I don't mean that in a bad way but that's what it looks like to me.

480 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:51:30pm

re: #476 Walter L. Newton
It sounds like you are enjoying where you are! Girlfriend, kids, bears, dogs & all! I am happy for you.

481 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:51:30pm

re: #473 Charles

Who knew that you alone were responsible for the current state of meaningful political debate.

What incredible power you must have, to hold such sway over the masses.

I'm impress.

482 Irish Rose  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:51:46pm

Here ya go, Charles ;).

483 Jack Burton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:51:55pm

re: #474 Last Mohican

It's a little late at night to start sleuthing, but I can't help but note that, in Lucas Smith's Kenyan birth certificate, the dates are in M/D/YYY format, the way we do it in America. However, in Kenya, they use D/M/YYY format.

So maybe he didn't even purchase a forgery in Kenya. Maybe he just typed the thing up himself in his basement.

In the article that World Nut Drooly has debunking it, they show a picture of (possibly if they aren't full of shit that is) a real birth certificate from Kenya from 1961 and it looks nothing like the one they are trying to pass off as real.

When WND is debunking your nonsense... go home you're done.

484 Bagua  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:52:16pm

re: #474 Last Mohican

It's a little late at night to start sleuthing,...

Good catch, forgery is such an exacting art, amateurs should not try.

485 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:54:49pm

re: #480 Floral Giraffe

It sounds like you are enjoying where you are! Girlfriend, kids, bears, dogs & all! I am happy for you.

Thanks, bear alert over for now. It's turns into fall real fast up here in the Rockies, and I suspect that's why we have seen a lot more bear activity the last few weeks. They're bulking up for the winter.

Back to bed.

486 Irish Rose  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:55:56pm

Say reggie, how's that O'Reilly/ Rodan article coming along? When do you think you'll have it ready for submission?

487 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:56:27pm

re: #485 Walter L. Newton

Stay safe & warm!

488 Last Mohican  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 10:56:43pm

re: #484 Bagua

Good catch, forgery is such an exacting art, amateurs should not try.

Well, at least this time, he used Courier instead of Times New Roman.

489 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:05:16pm

re: #486 Irish Rose


Good Question:
If I could get over my addiction to playing Whack-a-Troll, it should be ready for submission by the end of the month.
Poor Twajie, he is going to have Odom and O'Reilly really pissed at him when the real story behind why Jesse Waters was sent to stalk Amanda Terkel is revealed.
I am a cruel bastard!

490 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:07:43pm

re: #489 Reginald Perrin

And where, pray tell, might one read such an article, once it's submitted?

491 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:09:25pm

re: #490 Floral Giraffe

Anywhere you want, it might make for good reading in the bathroom.

492 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:09:36pm

What was the deal with putting hearsay in the top 10 last week?

493 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:10:50pm

re: #492 Gus 802

What was the deal with putting hearsay in the top 10 last week?

Could you elaborate?

494 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:11:38pm

re: #493 Sharmuta

Could you elaborate?

Zombie's post. Half was OK but the other half was hearsay.

495 Irish Rose  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:13:00pm

My Marine wants the laptop, and therefore I bid you all a good night.

496 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:14:14pm

re: #495 Irish Rose
check your email in the morning
g'night

497 Gus  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:15:22pm

re: #493 Sharmuta

Could you elaborate?

"I heard someone tell me something and it was really bad. You really have to take my word for it because if I told you it would out me. So I can't tell you what he really said. So take my word for it anyway."

Something like that.

498 Dancing along the light of day  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:15:22pm

re: #491 Reginald Perrin

BOO!
Where can I find it?
To read in the bathroom, if you will...

499 yochanan  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:26:48pm

re: #439 Walter L. Newton

if red and husky stop barking you might have to think about getting new dogs.

500 BARACK THE VOTE  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:28:35pm

re: #497 Gus 802

"I heard someone tell me something and it was really bad. You really have to take my word for it because if I told you it would out me. So I can't tell you what he really said. So take my word for it anyway."

Something like that.

Exactly,

"I have here in my hand a list of 205 Commies...no, I won't be providing proof".
Bullshit then, and bullshit now.

IMO, DANGEROUS bullshit.

I don't like the practice of linking old stuff on an old thread, and i don't want to reproduce my post here, but I already said everything I had to say on this subject earlier.
Suffice to say that I completely agree with you Gus.

501 Reginald Perrin  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:30:11pm

re: #498 Floral Giraffe

Honestly, I prefer that to remain a secret.
It's not a good idea to discuss this here since the stalkers read everything posted.
I am free to tell you that for obvious reasons the publisher is not affiliated with News Corp...lol

502 Clemente  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:36:09pm

re: #82 shug

More Birther Madness.

These people are clinically insane

I love quotes like this one:

Americans aren’t stupid and we know your hiding something.

Petty, I know, but... priceless.

503 SixDegrees  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:36:47pm

re: #433 Charles

There are several, actually. There's a little closet industry in phony nirth certifikits.

Woo Hoo! My early retirement plan is all coming together!

504 Pianobuff  Mon, Sep 7, 2009 11:48:30pm

re: #419 Coracle

Rawstory has it, TPM, Huffpo, Politico...

Holy crap. Laura must be a commie. It'll be confirmed once Kos covers it.

I saw it on Breitbart.

505 Mike Nargizian  Tue, Sep 8, 2009 12:20:06am

Shes a class act, Laura Bush.

Could the interviewer be any hotter and any more biased for Obama and against Bush?

Was that an interview or a fishing expedition to confront Laura about Obama and get her to support him and denounce Cheney? LOL!!!

"Do you think its fair the way people are criticizing President Obama?"


Do you think I think it was fair the way they were criticizing President Bush?

506 Mike Nargizian  Tue, Sep 8, 2009 12:46:14am

re: #204 Charles

Joe Scarborough? Is that a joke???
Never mind, I know it isn't.
Scarborough is a pal of Pat Buchanan's.

I just commented to Solomon (Solomonia) yesterday how they all seem to be chummy friends with Pat, Matthews as well... Well he and Pat have a distaste for Israel and anti Iraq war in common...

Let me state clearly -
Pat is nothing more than a barely veiled media brown shirt... it is HIS mission to rewrite the history of Nazi Germany and the racism of the isolationist nazi sympathizers in this country...

While I think he has distaste for the likes of the black community which he roundly criticizes as well... his major distaste and hatred is for the Jewish community... plain and simple... you can go to my site and see the article he wrote hours after the Lebanese PM was murdered by Syria and Hhezbollah...

507 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 8, 2009 4:12:41am
508 jayzee  Tue, Sep 8, 2009 5:14:47am

I said it before, I will say it again. I MISS THE "NEOCONS". The dinoCONS are now getting more and more power in the party. It is such a shame. I wonder if this is how moderate democrats feel?
Last year I wrote numerous letters begging the RNC to distance themselves from Uncle Paul like they did with Duke, apparently they are much smarter than me.

509 kansas  Tue, Sep 8, 2009 5:33:24am

re: #507 taxfreekiller

So, Van Jones, commie this, commie that for years and years.
So, Laura Bush, one peep, CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, full bore .

Odd this.

Some one google this Laura Bush news flash on the liberal speak and
contrast and compare to the lack of flash on Van Jones.

The msm is somewhat suspect in all things.

Yeah, and check out what the libs did when GHW Bush spoke to the kiddies. They crapped out and had fucking hearings!

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September 8, 2009 Posted by John at 7:13 AM

When President Obama's speech to school children became controversial, the press was quick to remind us that President George H.W. Bush had done the same thing in 1991. What they didn't often mention, however, was the Democrats' reaction. Byron York reminds us:

Democrats, then the majority party in Congress, not only denounced Bush's speech -- they also ordered the General Accounting Office to investigate its production and later summoned top Bush administration officials to Capitol Hill for an extensive hearing on the issue. ...

The day after Bush spoke, the Washington Post published a front-page story suggesting the speech was carefully staged for the president's political benefit. "The White House turned a Northwest Washington junior high classroom into a television studio and its students into props," the Post reported.

With the Post article in hand, Democrats pounced. "The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students," said Richard Gephardt, then the House Majority Leader. "And the president should be doing more about education than saying, 'Lights, camera, action.'"

Democrats did not stop with words. Rep. William Ford, then chairman of the House Education and Labor Committee, ordered the General Accounting Office to investigate the cost and legality of Bush's appearance. On October 17, 1991, Ford summoned then-Education Secretary Lamar Alexander and other top Bush administration officials to testify at a hearing devoted to the speech.

The GAO concluded that Bush's speech was "legal," but that didn't stop the National Education Association from denouncing it.

The controversy eventually died down and seems to have been forgotten, not only by the press that reported it but by the Democrats who denigrate those Republicans who question Obama's speech.

510 wiffersnapper  Tue, Sep 8, 2009 5:54:08am

Thanks for having a brain and using it, Laura!

511 Land Shark  Tue, Sep 8, 2009 8:05:29am

A welcome dose of sanity from Laura Bush, who was always a classy lady.

However, a lot of the partisanship she's complaining about comes from the Democrat party and President Barrack "I Won" Obama. He's about as non-bipartisan a President as I've seen in my life.

512 JEA62  Tue, Sep 8, 2009 8:46:57am

I do give props to W for keeping quiet and not criticizing Obama. He gets my respect for that. Laura always did - a very classy dame (as they would've said back in the day).

513 RexMundi  Tue, Sep 8, 2009 9:45:43am

Please come down from the ledge? Screw that. Right and Left wingers on the ledge: I hope you jump and splat onto the ground...just please make sure you do not hit a sane and rational person upon impact.

Thank you.

514 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 8, 2009 10:40:24am
515 Lee Coller  Tue, Sep 8, 2009 1:01:17pm

re: #514 idioma

I don't know if that's an attempt at humor (in which case its not funny at all) or some other nefarious purpose. I wish I could give a hundred downdings.

516 Taqyia2Me  Tue, Sep 8, 2009 4:08:13pm

re: #512 JEA62

I do give props to W for keeping quiet and not criticizing Obama. He gets my respect for that. Laura always did - a very classy dame (as they would've said back in the day).

Amen to that! Laura is all aces, imho.


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