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1 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Sep 15, 2009 11:50:54pm
2 freetoken  Tue, Sep 15, 2009 11:53:14pm
Men of ill judgement oft ignore the good
That lies within their hands, till they have lost it.

Well, one thing (good or not) that the men of Alabama will not have in their hands will be a simulacrum.

/see spin-offs under "law"

3 calcajun  Tue, Sep 15, 2009 11:56:06pm

Not to be confused with Socrates, who said,

"I drank what?"

4 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:01:14am
Men of ill judgement oft ignore the good
That lies within their hands, till they have lost it.

— Sophocles

If their judgment is that impaired- do they miss it?

5 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:09:20am

Of course, if they had better judgment, it wouldn't be lying in their hands, now would it?

6 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:10:33am

re: #4 Sharmuta

If their judgment is that impaired- do they miss it?

I think my judgment might be impaired, I voted Republican, in the last election. I don't see ANYTHING good coming from the party, just now.

7 cliffster  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:11:12am

I'm finally getting around to listening to Michael Jordan's hall of fame acceptance speech, where he supposedly made an ass of himself. Halfway through, nothing but cool so far. Where's the ass?

8 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:14:51am

Charles, do you have a badge you would prefer aspiring web folks to use?

/Not a steenkeen badge. Just a badge.

9 Riptides  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:18:02am

TMBG may be the bee's knee's now, but Ween still rules!

Sorry Charles, old rivalries (however imagined they might be) die hard, circa 1997.

10 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:18:41am

I resemble that quote.

11 Syrah  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:19:05am

From a link that EE posted in the spin-offs.

I think it deserves some attention.

But they knew they were angry, felt they had little say within the two existing parties and were worried most of all about how their tax dollars were being spent -- all the same hallmarks of today's movement. It's highly likely, in fact, that some folks who were Perotistas then are Tea Party Patriots now.

And that suggests a few lessons to remember:

These aren't partisan movements. The Perot followers were first angry at the first President Bush, then later easily transferred some of that anger to a Democratic president, Bill Clinton. Mostly they were mad at the establishment. Eventually, in fact, many ultimately focused their anger on Mr. Perot himself, after they came to believe he was trying to manipulate them. Which leads to lesson No. 2:

Movements like these aren't easy to control. If a citizen is motivated by anger that the government is trying to control his life, he isn't likely to easily accept the idea that some other person or institution is trying to control him, either. Some of today's insurgents are angry at bank bailouts, some at the government takeover of auto companies, some at the prospect of a bigger government role in health care -- but the unifying characteristic is that they are angry at any kind of central control at all. Republicans who think they can harness Tea Party Patriots and their anger may be in for a rude surprise of their own.

I think this is an important insight into "tea-party" phenomena.

What makes Beck different from Perot is that Beck pointedly is refusing the kind of political leadership of the movement that Perot sought.

The movement will not turn on Beck the same way the Perotistas turned on Perot.

12 cliffster  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:20:00am

re: #7 cliffster

I'm finally getting around to listening to Michael Jordan's hall of fame acceptance speech, where he supposedly made an ass of himself. Halfway through, nothing but cool so far. Where's the ass?

What a fantastic speech. Thanks, MJ. I am inspired to do make myself a better person. The best way to do that right now is to go to bed and get some sleep. night all!

13 Kragar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:20:23am

Patrick Swayze has lost his battle with cancer, he died at the age of 57

14 Riptides  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:22:14am

re: #6 Floral Giraffe

I think my judgment might be impaired, I voted Republican, in the last election.

That's okay, I voted democrat, in Georgia.. and I know my judgment is impaired.

15 Riptides  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:25:24am

re: #13 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Patrick Swayze has lost his battle with cancer, he died at the age of 57

All around me are familiar faces
Worn out places - worn out faces
Bright and early for their daily races
Going nowhere - going nowhere
And their tears are filling up their glasses
No expression - no expression
Hide my head I want to drown my sorrow

RIP Mr. Swayze..

16 freetoken  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:25:35am

Has anyone seen the new Jay Leno show? I'm watching the first episode, on Hulu, and wondering to myself why the just didn't keep the name "The Tonight Show" but schedule it an hour earlier. Seems almost identical.

17 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:25:37am

re: #8 haakondahl

Charles, do you have a badge you would prefer aspiring web folks to use?

/Not a steenkeen badge. Just a badge.

Badges?! Badges?!

18 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:26:31am

re: #14 Riptides

LOL!
I just hope we ALL aren't judgement impaired, for voting!
It's kinda looking that way, just now...

19 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:26:37am

re: #16 freetoken

I can never stay up that late.

20 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:26:38am

re: #9 Riptides

TMBG may be the bee's knee's now, but Ween still rules!

Sorry Charles, old rivalries (however imagined they might be) die hard, circa 1997.

Ween!

21 sngnsgt  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:27:11am

re: #16 freetoken

I bet they just pay him more.

22 freetoken  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:27:16am

re: #19 Danny

Well, I don't have a TV, which is why I watch them on Hulu.

23 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:29:51am

We have a TV but I have zero control over it.

24 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:30:37am

re: #13 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Patrick Swayze has lost his battle with cancer, he died at the age of 57

God: Now, this. This is the new Heaven. I've put a lot of money and time into this, and to protect my investment, I've hired the best damn cooler in the business. From now on he's in charge of all Heaven business. What he says goes. Dalton?

Dalton: Saint Peter, you're out of here.

Saint Peter: What the fuck you talking about?

Dalton: You don't have the right temperament.

Saint Peter: You asshole! What am I supposed to do?

Dalton: There's always barber college.

Saint Peter: You're a dead soul!

Dalton (points to Mary Magdalene): You're out, too. We're selling eternal peace and salvation here, not drugs.

Mary: Thank you.

Dalton: Anybody else here dealing? I'm telling you straight. It's my way or the highway. So anybody wants to walk, do it now.

25 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:35:13am

Since I am a post-apoc junkie of sorts...

Patrick Swayze in "Steel Dawn".

26 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:37:12am

re: #25 Slumbering Behemoth

Since I am a post-apoc junkie of sorts...

Patrick Swayze in "Steel Dawn".

I'm just, well, a wimp, & askeered to open most of your links.
Not happy about it, but freely admit it!


Hi SB!
*waves*

27 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:38:34am

re: #26 Floral Giraffe

What am I? Chopped liver?

/Up next on this week's upisode of Chopped Liver and the Behemoth.

28 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:38:49am

re: #26 Floral Giraffe

I'm just, well, a wimp, & askeered to open most of your links.

*waves back*

Pray tell, why?

29 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:40:46am
30 sngnsgt  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:42:45am

re: #8 haakondahl

Charles, do you have a badge you would prefer aspiring web folks to use?

/Not a steenkeen badge. Just a badge.

Something like this?

31 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:48:16am

re: #27 Fenway_Nation

You are the engine of the freight train, hauling, well, freight.
*smoochies*

32 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:49:35am

re: #28 Slumbering Behemoth

Why not?
Friends, well, wave at friends!

At least I'm not Pat Buchanan!

33 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:49:48am

OK- no one liked the Ween. So we'll try something completely different.

Classic if not cliché

34 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:51:41am

re: #31 Floral Giraffe

You are the engine of the freight train, hauling, well, freight.
*smoochies*

Apparently I can't be trusted to haul the really volatile shit...propane, ethanol, LNG, spent plutonium...

35 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:51:52am

re: #31 Floral Giraffe

No. No, no, I mean, why are you askeered to click on my links? I almost always put a NSFW disclaimer on them when needed.

36 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:52:41am

Tough crowd, these late night Honcos.
Sleepy time for me.
Stay Scaly.

& keep those flounces from the 'unknowns' coming!

37 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:54:03am

re: #35 Slumbering Behemoth

So say you now...
You are right & good about it.
Many are not!
(Still, you're a Behemoth..OK?)

38 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:54:52am

re: #34 Fenway_Nation

Do you REALLY think you'd look good in "spent plutonium"?

39 freetoken  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:55:46am

Anyone here use Yola.com for a website?

40 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:56:24am

re: #34 Fenway_Nation

Apparently I can't be trusted to haul the really volatile shit...propane, ethanol, LNG, spent plutonium...

Of course not. Have you forgotten? Season One, Episode 109 of Fenway and The Behemoth...

"Fen-dawg and Sleepy B consume some crazy shit that has no business being in a human stomach, in an effort to contact the Elder Gods in order to plead for more beer money. And also to catch a buzz."

41 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:56:40am

I HAVE to go to bed, an hour ago.
STOP conversing interestingly with me, PLEASE!
G'Night, Dear Honco Lizards.

Hasta Manana!

42 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 12:57:56am

re: #37 Floral Giraffe

Okay, now I am really confused.

Anyhow, sleep well.

43 sagehen  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:00:13am

re: #6 Floral Giraffe

I think my judgment might be impaired, I voted Republican, in the last election. I don't see ANYTHING good coming from the party, just now.

But you still have that sentimental attachment to what the party used to be...

44 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:00:49am

re: #33 Sharmuta

Sorry Sharm. Ween is okay, but hearing "Daises" is like hearing nails on the chalkboard for me.

45 Aye Pod  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:03:53am

Night folks :)

And remember - don't kill the animals.

46 freetoken  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:05:02am

The problem with a website, I'm concluding, is that it isn't hard to make one... the real work comes in continually having to put quality content on the site so that people will find it useful to visit.

47 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:09:15am

re: #45 Jimmah

But, however shall I eat them?

Nite dude.

48 ThingFish  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:10:11am

re: #7 cliffster

I heard it, on SportsCenter so it may have been edited, but it didn't sound bad.

49 ~Fianna  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:13:35am

re: #44 Slumbering Behemoth

Sorry Sharm. Ween is okay, but hearing "Daises" is like hearing nails on the chalkboard for me.

Ween is just somewhat traumatic for me. When one of my friends in high school got his new car, he promptly threw a Ween tape in it which wouldn't eject. It also wouldn't play more than one song - it was one of those "smart" tape decks that could rewind or fast foward based on the stops between tracks. We spend a whole night driving around listening to "Push the Little Daisies" and trying to get the damn tape to eject.

50 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:14:54am

I'm just now hearing about the bench-clearing brawl between the Yankees and Blue Jays last night.

51 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:16:00am

re: #49 ~Fianna

Sometimes a person just strikes out with a song link. Sorry folks.

52 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:17:42am

Oh look- America's 2nd worst president says that opposition to 0bama is clearly rooted in racism.

/Don't you have a canal to give away or some Hamas boots to lick, you fucking worthless goober?

53 ~Fianna  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:17:44am

re: #51 Sharmuta

Sometimes a person just strikes out with a song link. Sorry folks.

Italian cars are pretty, but they no work so well. :) Jamie's girlfriend also got her butt burned when the nifty seat heater thing wouldn't shut off.

54 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:18:54am

re: #41 Floral Giraffe


F'nite, ostentatious otter!!

55 SixDegrees  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:23:32am

re: #52 Fenway_Nation

Oh look- America's 2nd worst president says that opposition to 0bama is clearly rooted in racism.

/Don't you have a canal to give away or some Hamas boots to lick, you fucking worthless goober?

Carter's an idiot.

And the sun will rise in the east.

56 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:26:08am

re: #51 Sharmuta

Eye of the Beholder and all that. No need to apologize for your lousy* taste in music.

*Like I am one to talk.

57 ~Fianna  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:27:32am

re: #56 Slumbering Behemoth

Eye of the Beholder and all that. No need to apologize for your lousy* taste in music.

*Like I am one to talk.

I thought beauty was always in the eye of the beer holder.

58 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:34:12am

re: #57 ~Fianna

I thought beauty was always in the eye of the beer holder.

Apparently...

59 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:41:01am

Pretty happy with tonight's outing at Fenway overall. Dice-K looked good, despite not starting in the bigs since June. Papelbon kind of phoned it in during the 9th, but Boston got the win (just not the shutout).

Probably a little late in the season to be thinking about it, but the Sox gained some ground on the Yankees in the division race and pulled further away from Texas in the Wild Card chase tonight. Kinda hope they get it in their heads that they can win the divison even tho' there's less than 20 games left right now.

60 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:51:43am

re: #59 Fenway_Nation

Pretty happy with tonight's outing at Fenway overall.

Dude, don't fool yourself. Everyone pretty much knew already, NTTAWWT.

/Wait you said "at". I thought you said "of".
//

61 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:53:19am

re: #60 Slumbering Behemoth

Too lazy to look up the 'Comedic misunderstanding' section of TVTropes right now...

62 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 1:59:23am

re: #61 Fenway_Nation

Cool beans, I'm clocking out any how. Laters.

63 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:00:53am

Right now, looks like the AL Central pennant race might be interesting, since at the moment, it's the closest of all the races (Detroit on top with the Twins 4 and a half games behind and the White Sox a game behind Minnesota).

/getting spoiled by all of these one-game playoffs at the start of each October.

64 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:03:08am

re: #62 Slumbering Behemoth


Slumber well, behemoth...

65 theheat  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:10:16am
66 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:11:19am

Here we go...the White Sox, Tigers and Twins are currently within 5 games of each other and play each other twice each before the end of the season.

The next closest team to Boston in the Wild Card is Texas, but they've been slipping. The closest team after that in the WC chase is actually Seattle at 12 games out. If the Twins or White Sox want to make the postseason, it will have to be as the AL Central pennant winner, since they're even further behind the Mariners in the Wild Card standings.

67 theheat  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:13:42am

Haven't followed baseball that much this year, since the Mariners have sucked when it counted.

68 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:16:29am

re: #67 theheat

To be fair, they suck when it doesn't count, either.

69 theheat  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:18:43am

re: #68 Fenway_Nation

That was cruel ;-)

I'm looking for ghost town images for a project, and I just found some more dilapidated train pron.

70 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:19:10am

re: #65 theheat

Very nice...was that featured on HGTTV?

/(Home and Ghost Town TV)

71 freetoken  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:19:55am

re: #69 theheat

What a horrible web site design.

72 theheat  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:21:55am

re: #71 freetoken

The absolute worst, I know. If you were epileptic you'd be in a bad place if you landed there.

re: #70 Fenway_Nation

Nah, I found those in a Google images search while looking for ghost towns.

73 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:24:39am

Interesting referral coming in:

The Blog Wars: Charles Johnson Takes on Robert Spencer for Associating with Extremists

This is the same dinner which the English Defense League were invited to, as Adrian Morgan of Family Security Matters (another extreme right wing group) admits in an attempted defense of Robert Spencer, “The EDL had been invited to the George pub.” Robert Spencer wants us to believe that all this is a coincidence and is crying that he is a victim of guilt by association, which is quite rich considering how, as we have demonstrated, Spencer traffics in nothing but guilt by association. I guess this time it’s a case of Spencer not being able to take his own medicine?

Spencer responds to the accusation by Charles Johnson with a searing salvo of cheap shots and name calling. Is that any way to act for an “objective scholar?” He calls him “libelblogger,” “lying scoundrel” and calls those who are member’s of LGF “cult members.”

Robert Spencer seems to still be fuming at being outed by Charles Johnson, who many in the anti-Muslim blogsphere think of as a “traitor” for exposing Spencer’s proclivity to be an apologist for fascists as well as his joining a genocidal Faceebook club.

74 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:24:48am

re: #69 theheat

Some more dilpidated than others.

75 theheat  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:30:01am

re: #73 Sharmuta

It will be interesting to see how long, if and when, it becomes fashionable to stop associating with racists, fascists, nutters, and conspiracy theory promoters. But I'm not holding my breath.

76 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:33:01am

OK lizards...that's enough baseball and delapidated trian pr0n for me.

Nightey night...

77 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:33:37am

Oh...and be sure to stop be Seven's alehouse in Beacon Hill, Boston Massachusetts.

78 theheat  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:35:42am

Night Fenway. I'm back on the ghost town hunt.

79 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:37:03am

Yesss...

/Nailed it! (sort of)

G'nite for real now!

80 Riptides  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:37:52am

re: #44 Slumbering Behemoth

Sorry Sharm. Ween is okay, but hearing "Daises" is like hearing nails on the chalkboard for me.

But.. that was the whole point of that song.. really..

The real question at the time was who the hell at Elektra records decided to make that song a single, even the boys in the band were clueless on that one, but they went along with it and made the video anyways.

re: #49 ~Fianna

Ween is just somewhat traumatic for me. ... We spend a whole night driving around listening to "Push the Little Daisies" and trying to get the damn tape to eject.

But.. That's one of those nights that you can look back on later as a character building moment.. Cos when you lie.. kiss your baby bye bye bye..

81 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:52:06am

Spencer responds to the accusation by Charles Johnson with a searing salvo of cheap shots and name calling. Is that any way to act for an “objective scholar?” He calls him “libelblogger,” “lying scoundrel” and calls those who are member’s of LGF “cult members.”

Fuck you.

82 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 2:55:55am

re: #81 Cannadian Club Akbar

They have another good smack down of spencer here. It's telling spencer has nothing better to say in response than to call Charles and the rest of us names.

83 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:06:55am

re: #82 Sharmuta

I had a friend on myspace who had pics of her with Spencer and pics of her and Gellar. I told her to be careful who she associates with.

84 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:10:22am

Good Morning Lizards.

Sharmuta,

Thanks for the link to the article. Interesting read.

85 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:12:50am

re: #84 rwdflynavy

You're welcome. :)

86 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:18:10am

re: #82 Sharmuta

They have another good smack down of spencer here. It's telling spencer has nothing better to say in response than to call Charles and the rest of us names.

Does he single out particular Lizards?

87 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:18:21am

re: #83 Cannadian Club Akbar

I had a friend on myspace who had pics of her with Spencer and pics of her and Gellar. I told her to be careful who she associates with.

You should send some choice LGF articles concerning those two to your friend.

My favorites include:

Atlas Shrugs Promoting Neo-Nazi Agitprop
Robert Spencer Joins Genocidal Facebook Group

88 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:19:18am

re: #86 MandyManners

Does he single out particular Lizards?

Yes- he's singled out a couple of particular Lizards before and named them in his rants against LGF.

89 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:19:57am

re: #87 Sharmuta

She is a Muslim turned Catholic who grew up in the middle east. She calls Islam a cult. I think she is set in her ways.

90 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:22:10am

re: #88 Sharmuta

Yes- he's singled out a couple of particular Lizards before and named them in his rants against LGF.

How big of him.

91 razorbacker  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:23:01am

Razorbacker cusses for the first time (out loud).

About a year ago, I told the story of how Mom and Dad came to own a houseboat, and the trip up from Greenville, Mississippi to our base of operations at Weber. This is what happened later.

We found that the houseboat wasn’t in as bad shape as we’d thought. Sure, the top of the transom was rotten, as well as some of the spots where the metal furnishings attached, and yeah, the house part of the boat was pretty well trash, but the actual hull was in fair shape. In fact, after we’d strapped a few 8 by 8s to a lowboy and backed the lowboy into the water and floated the houseboat onto it and used a Cat to pull it out of the water we were able to make the hull completely seaworthy with the replacement of no more than thirty percent of the wood.

We pulled all the boards from the house frame and used some thin cypress to replace them and put a new roof on and we were good to go. Except for the interior. We refloated the boat and were ready to finish up the rebuild.

It was a family affair; Mom and Dad, I, my little sister and my three younger brothers. Summertime in southeastern Arkansas on the bayou brings more mosquitoes and gnats than you can stand, so we were motoring down the bayou towards Jacks Bay to generate a gentle breeze. Mom was in back running the motor; Dad was inside working on the ‘house’ and called for a plank to be passed into the interior. Mom went up front; I climbed onto the top to pass down a plank, and she hand-over-handed the plank to find the balance point. While swinging the plank around to stick it into the open window, the end of the plank happened to touch the water. The plank touched the corner of the house and acted as a lever to heave Mom over the side into the bayou. A ‘splash’, and my baby brother sang out “Mom overboard”.

Mom came up sputtering water, Dad tore out of the ‘house’, kicked off his shoes and dived in to rescue Mom. Little Sister, now at the controls, first shoved the throttle to ‘full’, realized her mistake, and pulled back to ‘full stop’. I bailed off the roof onto the back deck and watched Mom crawl onto a sandbar, followed by Dad. Sis, not realizing that you don’t choke a warm engine, pulled out the choke and attempted to restart the motor. There we were. The five of us kids still on the boat floating downstream, Mom and Dad on the sandbar.

92 razorbacker  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:23:39am

I was cranking the now-flooded motor. Dad watched me for a while, then called out, “Son, start the damned boat and come get us!” Now I was in a pickle for sure. Mom and Dad stranded on the sandbar, me stranded on the houseboat with my four siblings. Tempers flared, and without thinking it through I shouted the first thing that came to mind. The first profanity that I’d ever let slip in front of my mother.

“If I could start the motherfucker I would start the son-of-a-bitch but the damned shit is flooded and is gonna be flooded for the next half-hour. You know that, and I know that.”

Well. As we floated around the bend out of sight I could see that I’d broken my poor mother’s heart. She turned to Dad and buried her face in his chest and her shoulders starting heaving in sobs, with a strange ‘Hee, hee, hee” cry that sounded almost like muffled laughter. Dad stood open mouthed, and with eyes the size of silver dollars gaped in astonishment. My sister dead-panned, “Boy, are you gonna get it.”

“Yeah. But not for at least a half-hour. Shut up.”

I did what I should have done in the first place and went up front and dropped the anchor. We came to a lazy stop and sat swinging at rest. The engine eventually caught and we slowly motored back upstream around the bend and there Mom and Dad sat on the sand with their arms over each other’s shoulders. I guess that they’d been exercising or something to pass the time because they were both a little out of breath, and Mom had sand all up her back but they were none the worse for the adventure.

I nosed the boat up to the sand, they hopped on board and we stood looking at each other with that ‘now what’ expression. Dad shrugged, I smiled apologetically, Mom walked back and ruffled my hair and kissed me on the cheek.

We all went back to work, and nothing further was said.

But that story got told, later. Repeatedly told.

And that’s it, folks. See y’all later.

93 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:24:20am

re: #90 MandyManners

How big of him.

He is a tough guy. Kinda like net geeks who want to fight everyone while sitting in a basement.

94 TheMatrix31  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:31:23am

Ugh. I have to get a blood test in six hours.

I HATE blood tests.

95 SixDegrees  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:32:12am

re: #94 TheMatrix31

Ugh. I have to get a blood test in six hours.

I HATE blood tests.

Yeah. My blood's really stupid, and I have to keep getting it tested over and over again.

96 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:32:18am

re: #94 TheMatrix31

Ugh. I have to get a blood test in six hours.

I HATE blood tests.

Did you have to fast?

97 TheMatrix31  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:35:05am

No. They didn't tell me anything actually. My Mom scheduled me for a regular checkup since it's been way too long since I had one. I just assume blood work is part of that.

98 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:36:10am

I had to do a blood test once. The nurse told me I had to fast. I said " that sucks. I have to go all day at work without eating." She said I should come in the morning after sleeping all night. I should wear a helmet.

99 TheMatrix31  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:37:38am

I wonder if they'll let me take music in the lab. I cannot STAND the mental feeling of blood work.

100 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:39:07am

re: #92 razorbacker

Yeah, they were exercising.

101 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:39:15am

re: #99 TheMatrix31

I wonder if they'll let me take music in the lab. I cannot STAND the mental feeling of blood work.

It only takes 2 minutes to get blood drawn. I suggest "Flight of the Bumblebee."

102 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:39:40am

re: #93 Cannadian Club Akbar

He is a tough guy. Kinda like net geeks who want to fight everyone while sitting in a basement.

Maybe the mold's getting to him.

103 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:40:15am

re: #94 TheMatrix31

Ugh. I have to get a blood test in six hours.

I HATE blood tests.

Study hard!

104 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:41:24am

re: #98 Cannadian Club Akbar

I had to do a blood test once. The nurse told me I had to fast. I said " that sucks. I have to go all day at work without eating." She said I should come in the morning after sleeping all night. I should wear a helmet.

You pass out at the sight of blood? My dad did when my parents went to get their blood tests done for their wedding license.

105 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:42:21am

re: #101 Cannadian Club Akbar

It only takes 2 minutes to get blood drawn. I suggest "Flight of the Bumblebee."

Why not drink a gallon of coffee before hand, too. Get those nerves pumping.

106 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:42:55am

re: #104 MandyManners

You pass out at the sight of blood? My dad did when my parents went to get their blood tests done for their wedding license.

No, I should wear a helmet because I'l stoopid. I thought I had to fast all day when I just needed to show up in the AM. Blood doesn't bother me.

107 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:43:30am

re: #99 TheMatrix31

I wonder if they'll let me take music in the lab. I cannot STAND the mental feeling of blood work.

Do you have a safe place you can go to in your mind? Any breathing exercises?

108 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:43:53am

re: #106 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'l=I'm, (proving my point)

109 Jim in virginia  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:44:42am

Morning all.
The Rise of the Machines: The two daughters each get laptops from the high school (but, alas, no internet access outside school, and no facebook access in school.) With our home desktop, home laptop, my work laptop and my wife's work lapto, we now have a computer for each of us, the dog and the hamster.
I hope they don't learn to reproduce.

110 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:45:02am

re: #106 Cannadian Club Akbar

No, I should wear a helmet because I'l stoopid. I thought I had to fast all day when I just needed to show up in the AM. Blood doesn't bother me.

Remember the SNL skit with Mike Meyers and Nicole Kidman?

111 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:45:59am

re: #109 Jim in virginia

Morning all.
The Rise of the Machines: The two daughters each get laptops from the high school (but, alas, no internet access outside school, and no facebook access in school.) With our home desktop, home laptop, my work laptop and my wife's work lapto, we now have a computer for each of us, the dog and the hamster.
I hope they don't learn to reproduce.

Just keep the hard drive away from the soft-ware.

112 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:46:19am

re: #109 Jim in virginia

Morning all.
The Rise of the Machines: The two daughters each get laptops from the high school (but, alas, no internet access outside school, and no facebook access in school.) With our home desktop, home laptop, my work laptop and my wife's work lapto, we now have a computer for each of us, the dog and the hamster.
I hope they don't learn to reproduce.

The daughters or the animals?

113 TheMatrix31  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:46:19am

re: #107 MandyManners

Do you have a safe place you can go to in your mind? Any breathing exercises?

Not at all lol. Each corner I turn is crazier than the other!

114 Jim in virginia  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:46:25am

re: #99 TheMatrix31

I wonder if they'll let me take music in the lab. I cannot STAND the mental feeling of blood work.


If it were I, I would close my eyes and think of Jamie Lee Curtis.
Your results may vary.

115 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:49:23am

re: #113 TheMatrix31

Not at all lol. Each corner I turn is crazier than the other!

Breathe in deeply through your mouth, starting at the bottom of your diaphragm, for the count of five. Hold it for five. Breathe out through your nose, exhaling from the bottom of your diaphragm and upward, for five. Count to five. Repeat. If you're doing it correctly, you should start relaxing in about 20 repetitions.

116 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:50:16am

re: #114 Jim in virginia

If it were I, I would close my eyes and think of Jamie Lee Curtis.
Your results may vary.

That'll certainly get the blood rolling.

117 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:51:16am

re: #114 Jim in virginia

If it were I, I would close my eyes and think of Jamie Lee Curtis.
Your results may vary.

He should think of the traffic girl on my TV. Pure Goddess.

118 TheMatrix31  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:52:17am

re: #115 MandyManners

Hmm, interesting. It doesn't hurt, it's just a really nauseatingly uncomfortable feeling. Never liked veins and heart stuff, but I have to get my cholesterol checked.

119 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:53:25am

re: #118 TheMatrix31

Hmm, interesting. It doesn't hurt, it's just a really nauseatingly uncomfortable feeling. Never liked veins and heart stuff, but I have to get my cholesterol checked.

It doesn't have to hurt in order to benefit from the breathing exercise.

120 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:53:35am

re: #118 TheMatrix31

Hmm, interesting. It doesn't hurt, it's just a really nauseatingly uncomfortable feeling. Never liked veins and heart stuff, but I have to get my cholesterol checked.

I got mine checked a couple years ago. It was high, so I stopped going to the doctor.

121 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:54:55am

If it makes you nauseated, is there any chance that you'll puke? You might wanna' tell them that first so that they can get you something to puke into.

122 yesandno  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:55:03am

So glad Jimmah went Presidential and called racism when he saw it...I'm convinced.

///

I am beginning to think this constant stream of yelling racism whenever anything in the O administration is critisized is an actual plan--if health care bombs, it isn' because it was a bad bill, it is because of racism. Any failure of the O administration will be due to racism.

I'm sorry, I am not buying that.

123 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:55:14am

re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar

I got mine checked a couple years ago. It was high, so I stopped going to the doctor.

You showed them!

124 TheMatrix31  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:55:47am

I'm almost scared that everything is going to come back normal, because it will give me the mental license to destroy burgers and pizza in celebration.

125 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:55:59am

re: #122 yesandno

So glad Jimmah went Presidential and called racism when he saw it...I'm convinced.

///

I am beginning to think this constant stream of yelling racism whenever anything in the O administration is critisized is an actual plan--if health care bombs, it isn' because it was a bad bill, it is because of racism. Any failure of the O administration will be due to racism.

I'm sorry, I am not buying that.

That was the theme during the campaign. It worked then.

126 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:56:31am

re: #124 TheMatrix31

I'm almost scared that everything is going to come back normal, because it will give me the mental license to destroy burgers and pizza in celebration.

Why not! A little grease never hurt a healthy young man!

127 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:57:39am

re: #124 TheMatrix31

I'm almost scared that everything is going to come back normal, because it will give me the mental license to destroy burgers and pizza in celebration.

Have a big fat steak (T-bone) and a loaded baked tater!

128 Jim in virginia  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:57:54am

re: #112 Cannadian Club Akbar

The daughters or the animals?


The pets can't reproduce. I'm putting the daughters in a convent.
Actually, as cranky as they have been of late, no boy would want to be near them.

129 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 3:59:35am

re: #128 Jim in virginia

The pets can't reproduce. I'm putting the daughters in a convent.
Actually, as cranky as they have been of late, no boy would want to be near them.

Just make sure you are cleaning your guns if and when a boy picks them up for a date.

130 TheMatrix31  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:00:42am

re: #126 MandyManners

Why not! A little grease never hurt a healthy young man!

Cheers to that!

Shower time.

131 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:02:48am

Hugo Chavez wants to join the nuclear energy club and is looking to Russia for help in getting started.

The Venezuelan leader is already dismissing critics' concerns over his nuclear ambitions, offering assurances his aims are peaceful and that Venezuela will simply be following in the footsteps of other South American nations using atomic energy.

Yet his project remains in its planning stages and still faces a host of practical hurdles, likely requiring billions of dollars, as well as technology and expertise that Venezuela lacks.

Russia has offered to help bridge that gap, and Chavez has announced that the two countries have created an atomic energy commission.

"I say it before the world: Venezuela is going to start the process of developing nuclear energy, but we're not going to make an atomic bomb, so don't be bothering us afterward ... (with) something like what they have against Iran," Chavez said Sunday.

Well, that assures me!

132 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:03:28am

re: #130 TheMatrix31

Cheers to that!

Shower time.

Don't forget those ears!

133 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:05:08am

re: #131 MandyManners

Hugo Chavez wants to join the nuclear energy club and is looking to Russia for help in getting started.


Well, that assures me!

I am sure the IAEA will be all over it.
/

134 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:05:49am

re: #122 yesandno


I am beginning to think this constant stream of yelling racism whenever anything in the O administration is criticized is an actual plan--if health care bombs, it isn't because it was a bad bill, it is because of racism. Any failure of the O administration will be due to racism.


You weren't supposed to tell.

135 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:06:59am

re: #134 Pullus Iulius

You weren't supposed to tell.

We had a flouncer yesterday that called LGF racist.

136 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:07:32am

Charlie Gibson of ABC didn't even know about the latest ACORN scandal? What fucking world does he inhabit?

137 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:08:21am

re: #136 MandyManners

Charlie Gibson of ABC didn't even know about the latest ACORN scandal? What fucking world does he inhabit?

He's lying. Does ABC still rent a room in the White House?

138 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:08:26am

re: #133 Cannadian Club Akbar

I am sure the IAEA will be all over it.
/

Who's replacing ElBaradei?

139 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:09:04am

re: #135 Cannadian Club Akbar

We had a flouncer yesterday that called LGF racist.

Huh?

140 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:09:51am

re: #137 Cannadian Club Akbar

He's lying. Does ABC still rent a room in the White House?

Don't other MFM outlets?

141 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:10:18am

ACORN- California

142 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:10:49am

re: #140 MandyManners

Don't other MFM outlets?

I thought they had the East room or something.

143 freetoken  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:11:10am

re: #109 Jim in virginia


I hope they don't learn to reproduce.

The dog and the hamster, or the daughters?

144 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:12:26am

re: #142 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought they had the East room or something.

Covering the White House is a heavy burden so I can understand having an area set up just for the MFM. Are you asking if ABC has separate accomodations?

145 Jim in virginia  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:13:00am

re: #143 freetoken

The dog and the hamster, or the daughters?

You're reading comments the way I do.
Keep scrolling down.

146 yesandno  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:15:48am

The MSM is only interested in news that it feels if fit to print or air...certainly not investigate. Charlie was on his boat in New England...not out there doing actual work. That is for the peons. It was their fault that Acorn got overlooked. Even if the might oak is beginning to swallow up great portions of taxpayers money.

Of course Charlie didn't have a clue...

///

147 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:17:01am

re: #141 Cannadian Club Akbar

ACORN- California

Oh, dear me. Is it the same as the others?

When did ACORN start firing these people? After the tapes hit the air-waves/Internet?

148 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:18:00am

I wonder if there will be a video from Chicago's ACORN.

149 freetoken  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:18:31am

re: #145 Jim in virginia

Yeah... and it's 4 in the morning and I've been working on web site design stuff the past 4 hours...

My favorite site of the hour:

ColorJack

I'm still want to convince Charles that he should move away from the mint green/gray combo to a periwinkle/cream combo.

150 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:18:35am

re: #147 MandyManners

Oh, dear me. Is it the same as the others?

When did ACORN start firing these people? After the tapes hit the air-waves/Internet?

Watch it. The woman talks about killing her abusive husband if I linked the correct video.

151 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:19:36am

Has ACORN called these undercover videos racist yet?

152 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:20:18am

re: #150 Cannadian Club Akbar

Watch it. The woman talks about killing her abusive husband if I linked the correct video.

I'll look. I was holding off until I got The Kid to school.

153 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:21:09am

He was posing as a politician!

154 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:22:18am

Did she just admit she set up the scenario in which she would get away with killing her husband?

155 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:22:41am

re: #151 MandyManners

Has ACORN called these undercover videos racist yet?

Not quite, but...
[Link: biggovernment.com...]

156 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:24:11am

Disguise the brothel as a school to cover for the minor hooker?

Then, the ACORN worker said she'd kill the man who advsed them how to do it because she has no problem with killing? She's a fucking psycho.

157 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:25:02am

re: #6 Floral Giraffe

I think my judgment might be impaired, I voted Republican, in the last election. I don't see ANYTHING good coming from the party, just now.

I didn't see anything good coming from either party in November 2008, and I got all sorts of crap over it from both sides.

158 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:25:35am

re: #156 MandyManners

Disguise the brothel as a school to cover for the minor hooker?

Then, the ACORN worker said she'd kill the man who advsed them how to do it because she has no problem with killing? She's a fucking psycho.

Sure, it's on video tape, but it was taken out of context.
/

159 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:26:37am

Someone who shot an abusive husband does not then go around bragging about it, saying she got away with it and she has no problem killing again.

I wonder if the local cops will take a renewed interest in her husband's murder.

I'm all for killing abusive husbands when they're on the war-path, and I can even see my way to going easy on women who are in the grips of Battered Woman's Syndrome but, this does not seem to be the case here.

160 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:27:32am

This cheapens the cause of women who kill out of fear, out of utter desperation. This could set back battered women a few decades.

161 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:27:37am

re: #29 Fenway_Nation

Did I already post this?

Venezuelan Minister: More Radio Station Closures Pending

Fairness Doctrine.

162 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:28:08am

I gotta' take a break. My shorts are so full of sand I don't know how I'm gonna' make it downstairs to get some more coffee.

163 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:28:24am

re: #161 JamesTKirk

Fairness Doctrine.

In bed.

164 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:28:55am

Some one posted a link, IIRC, about how Obama is keeping up the Bush Doctrine. Anyone have that link close?

165 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:29:29am

re: #59 Fenway_Nation

Pretty happy with tonight's outing at Fenway overall.

Really? Who was outed?

166 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:31:15am

re: #75 theheat

It will be interesting to see how long, if and when, it becomes fashionable to stop associating with racists, fascists, nutters, and conspiracy theory promoters. But I'm not holding my breath.

Before that can happen, it must become fashionable to stop BEING racists, fascists, nutters, and conspiracy theory promoters.

167 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:31:56am

re: #164 Cannadian Club Akbar

Some one posted a link, IIRC, about how Obama is keeping up the Bush Doctrine. Anyone have that link close?

Which part of the Bush Doctrine?

168 TheMatrix31  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:32:18am

Good night guys.

169 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:32:38am

re: #167 MandyManners

Which part of the Bush Doctrine?

Wars, FISA, Gitmo, etc.

170 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:32:40am

re: #81 Cannadian Club Akbar

...and calls those who are member’s of LGF “cult members.”

Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!

171 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:32:45am

re: #168 TheMatrix31

Good night guys.

Did you get your ears?

172 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:33:42am

re: #169 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wars, FISA, Gitmo, etc.

Charles has a thread about the Patriot Act.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

173 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:33:44am

re: #90 MandyManners

How big of him.

But not in bed.

174 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:34:02am

re: #170 JamesTKirk

Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!

In bed.

175 SixDegrees  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:34:07am

re: #164 Cannadian Club Akbar

Some one posted a link, IIRC, about how Obama is keeping up the Bush Doctrine. Anyone have that link close?

He's asking for the Patriot Act to be renewed and extended, if that's what you're referring to.

176 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:34:26am

re: #95 SixDegrees

Yeah. My blood's really stupid, and I have to keep getting it tested over and over again.

Blood tests are easy. I get an A+ every time.

177 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:34:32am

re: #173 JamesTKirk

But not in bed.

*snicker*

178 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:36:27am

re: #172 MandyManners

re: #175 SixDegrees

Someone must have posted a link. It was a run down of all the things Obama hasn't changed, not just the Patriot Act. But thanks guyz.

179 TheMatrix31  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:38:14am

re: #171 MandyManners

Yes ma'am!

180 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:38:16am

re: #176 JamesTKirk

Blood tests are easy. I get an A+ every time.

I hate them if I get a stupid phlebotomist. I'm petite, and so are my veins. Smart phlebotomists use the smallest needles and that butterfly thing they use on kids. Stupid ones use the average size and then act all surprised when they can't stick me properly.

181 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:38:42am

re: #179 TheMatrix31

Yes ma'am!

*pinches cheek*

Get to bed. Sweet dreams.

182 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:39:00am

re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #175 SixDegrees

Someone must have posted a link. It was a run down of all the things Obama hasn't changed, not just the Patriot Act. But thanks guyz.

Have you run a search on it?

183 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:40:17am

re: #180 MandyManners

I hate them if I get a stupid phlebotomist. I'm petite, and so are my veins. Smart phlebotomists use the smallest needles and that butterfly thing they use on kids. Stupid ones use the average size and then act all surprised when they can't stick me properly.

Needles? My phlebotomist just sinks her fangs in my neck. Is that wrong?

184 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:40:30am

re: #180 MandyManners

I hate them if I get a stupid phlebotomist. I'm petite, and so are my veins. Smart phlebotomists use the smallest needles and that butterfly thing they use on kids. Stupid ones use the average size and then act all surprised when they can't stick me properly.

um...

185 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:40:53am

re: #182 MandyManners

Have you run a search on it?

Not yet.

186 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:41:22am

re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #175 SixDegrees

Someone must have posted a link. It was a run down of all the things Obama hasn't changed, not just the Patriot Act. But thanks guyz.


I just searched "Bush" and got 111 hits.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

187 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:41:59am

re: #183 JamesTKirk

Needles? My phlebotomist just sinks her fangs in my neck. Is that wrong?

Does she brush and floss first?

188 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:42:21am

Just checking in for a few minutes, sort of a drive by. I've been gone from LGF a few days cause I'm at a funeral.

So, here I am at the Hamptons on Long Island. That's where the funeral was.

I was tempted to drive around the area with a sign on my rental car that said "Wind Farms Installed, Call[no phone numbers allowed]."

The ACORN stuff I have been catching on the TV looks interesting. The progressives must be spinning every which way but loose?

Got to go soon. Girlfriend and I are expected at the Kennedy's for a late breakfast.

Will be back in Colorado late Thursday night.

189 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:42:22am

Let's see, the President wants a troop surge in Afghanistan (even though the surge in Iraq would not work.)
He wants to extend Patriot Act provisions.
The FBI seems very busy investigating potential terrorist plots: methinks someone has very effective surveillance.
And Pat Buchanon has linked the far left and far right Troofers.
If, God forbid, there is another major terror attack in the States, way too many people will question whether the Feds made it happen.
And Barack Obama will wind up defending...
Bush and Cheney.

190 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:42:41am

re: #184 Cannadian Club Akbar

um...

However inadvertently, yes, I did set myself up for that.

191 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:44:05am

Bush Doctrine.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

192 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:44:18am

re: #190 MandyManners

However inadvertently, yes, I did set myself up for that.

I should have used the entire sentence.

193 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:44:46am

FISA

18 hits.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

194 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:44:58am

re: #191 MandyManners

I'll find it.

195 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:45:09am

re: #129 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #128 Jim in virginia
I'm putting the daughters in a convent. Actually, as cranky as they have been of late, no boy would want to be near them.

Just make sure you are cleaning your guns if and when a boy picks them up for a date.

Or make them watch this movie.

196 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:46:27am

Afghanistan.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

15 hits.

197 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:48:38am

re: #188 Walter L. Newton

Just checking in for a few minutes, sort of a drive by. I've been gone from LGF a few days cause I'm at a funeral.

So, here I am at the Hamptons on Long Island. That's where the funeral was.

I was tempted to drive around the area with a sign on my rental car that said "Wind Farms Installed, Call[no phone numbers allowed]."

The ACORN stuff I have been catching on the TV looks interesting. The progressives must be spinning every which way but loose?

Got to go soon. Girlfriend and I are expected at the Kennedy's for a late breakfast.

Will be back in Colorado late Thursday night.

No. 141, ACORN in San Bernidino. (It's quite a bit different--and more disturbing--than the previous ones.)

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Godspeed!

198 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:49:39am

re: #188 Walter L. Newton

Waitaminute. The Kennedys?

199 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:50:01am

re: #192 Cannadian Club Akbar

I should have used the entire sentence.

Well, thank you for not.

200 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:50:08am

I sent the link someone posted yesterday to a local talk show guy (20 affiliates, actually) where Obama called Kanye a jackass. Did he give props? No. The guy is a douche.

201 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:51:30am

re: #200 Cannadian Club Akbar

I sent the link someone posted yesterday to a local talk show guy (20 affiliates, actually) where Obama called Kanye a jackass. Did he give props? No. The guy is a douche.

He might get so many tips that keeping up with them would be onerous.

OTOH, he might just be an asshole.

202 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:52:27am

Or, he mght have recieved 20 such tips on Kanye West.

203 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:53:10am

re: #201 MandyManners

He might get so many tips that keeping up with them would be onerous.

OTOH, he might just be an asshole.

He "found" the audio 30 minutes after I sent it. He has also used other stuff I have sent from obscure sites. He is an asshole.

204 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:54:38am

re: #203 Cannadian Club Akbar

He "found" the audio 30 minutes after I sent it. He has also used other stuff I have sent from obscure sites. He is an asshole.

Meh. Talk show hosts don't get to be rich and famous by crediting other peoples' work.

/

205 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:55:06am

Mornin folks. I now have 3 "friend" requests for Facebook even though I don't have an account yet. Should I set one up to keep from rejecting my "friends" or ignore them and avoid yet another insipid/useless internet time-wasting activity?

206 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:56:01am

re: #205 Danny

Mornin folks. I now have 3 "friend" requests for Facebook even though I don't have an account yet. Should I set one up to keep from rejecting my "friends" or ignore them and avoid yet another insipid/useless internet time-wasting activity?

You just need to waste time here.
/

207 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:58:34am

re: #203 Cannadian Club Akbar

He "found" the audio 30 minutes after I sent it. He has also used other stuff I have sent from obscure sites. He is an asshole.

If you think the stuff needs to get out there, you likely will have to bite your tongue.

Can you imagine how zombie feels when her/his stuff is ripped off?

208 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:59:49am

re: #205 Danny

Mornin folks. I now have 3 "friend" requests for Facebook even though I don't have an account yet. Should I set one up to keep from rejecting my "friends" or ignore them and avoid yet another insipid/useless internet time-wasting activity?

For several reasons I've refused to set up one, the most important being privacy.

209 razorbacker  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 4:59:55am

Sumbeech.

Wife calls me, "Sweetheart, this don't look too good."

'Fridge door won't shut completely. I grab it, heave up and it will shut. As long as you don't open it again, all is well.

I dig out the manual. What? Don't y'all have an old steamer trunk with the warranty and manual of every single thing that you ever bought? Anyways, there is only four parts that possibly could be broken down there, all of them look like they can't possibly be expensive.

Now all I have to do is go to town, hope that the repair place has the parts, come home and unload all the stuff out of the door shelves, remove the door and replace the parts, then put all the stuff back.

I'd call the appliance repairman, but he charges $75 bucks to drive out, look at the problem with a puzzled expression, tell me he ain't got that part on the truck and will have to come back later (at the cost of another $75).

Breathe. Just breathe. After all, the darned thang has been running just fine for 17 years. Something was bound to happen.

210 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:00:07am

re: #207 MandyManners

If you think the stuff needs to get out there, you likely will have to bite your tongue.

Can you imagine how zombie feels when her/his stuff is ripped off?

No shit. I have heard Zombie's stuff on my morning radio, but they gave credit to FrontPage.

211 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:00:28am

re: #206 Cannadian Club Akbar

You just need to waste time here.
/

That sounds like, um, wise advice.

212 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:00:38am

re: #206 Cannadian Club Akbar

You just need to waste time here.
/

Time spent learning information is never wasted.

213 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:01:22am

re: #209 razorbacker

Hold off for the "Cash for Fridges"!!!

214 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:01:31am

re: #207 MandyManners

If you think the stuff needs to get out there, you likely will have to bite your tongue.

Can you imagine how zombie feels when her/his stuff is ripped off?

You can rip as much as you want off of a zombie and it won't hurt them. That's why you go for the head shot.

Don't you watch movies?

215 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:01:43am

How soon before the people who've exposed ACORN find their lives splashed across the front page?

216 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:02:08am

re: #214 JamesTKirk

You can rip as much as you want off of a zombie and it won't hurt them. That's why you go for the head shot.

Don't you watch movies?

*groan*

217 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:02:23am

re: #212 MandyManners

Time spent learning information is never wasted.

I learn more here then any other place. Many smart people.

218 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:02:49am

re: #205 Danny

Mornin folks. I now have 3 "friend" requests for Facebook even though I don't have an account yet.

Anyone who doesn't know I don't have Facebook and don't intend to have Facebook can't know me very well.

219 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:03:30am

re: #208 MandyManners

For several reasons I've refused to set up one, the most important being privacy.

This, really. After I discovered that employers and potential employers screen employees' social networking pages to make sure they're not a liability to the company, I decided it would be best not to bother. Not that I have anything to hide, but I can't control what some of my "friends" might decide to post, and that could be damaging to my career.

220 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:03:49am

re: #217 Cannadian Club Akbar

I learn more here then any other place.

In bed.

Many smart people.

Oops, just excluded myself from that one.

221 razorbacker  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:03:50am

re: #213 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hold off for the "Cash for Fridges"!!!

I assume that you are being funny. Why would I spend thousands of dollars to fix a $20 problem?

I'm not the government. I have to earn money; I can't just print it.

222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:04:18am

re: #209 razorbacker

They ain't like they used to be. 17 years is a great life span for a fridge.

Have a friend, an engineer for GE. They are trying to design things to work for one month beyond their warranty, 99.6 percent of the time.

223 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:05:17am

re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They ain't like they used to be. 17 years is a great life span for a fridge.

Have a friend, an engineer for GE. They are trying to design things to work for one month beyond their warranty, 99.6 percent of the time.

Planned obsolescence. This has been an industry standard technique to get people to spend money for nearly a hundred years now.

224 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:05:23am

re: #221 razorbacker

I assume that you are being funny. Why would I spend thousands of dollars to fix a $20 problem?

I'm not the government. I have to earn money; I can't just print it.

They are talking about a program. I bought one 2 years ago, $700, my old one was 25 years old. I did save some on electric.

225 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:06:09am

re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They ain't like they used to be. 17 years is a great life span for a fridge.

Have a friend, an engineer for GE. They are trying to design things to work for one month beyond their warranty, 99.6 percent of the time.

Could you do me a favor and kick your friend in the nuts? Just once?

226 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:06:44am

re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Our Amana over/under just turned 14. It's definitely long in the tooth, though. Icemaker valve broke, seals leak, etc.

227 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:07:00am

re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They ain't like they used to be. 17 years is a great life span for a fridge.

Have a friend, an engineer for GE. They are trying to design things to work for one month beyond their warranty, 99.6 percent of the time.

I had a cell phone take a shit a month out of warrany.

228 razorbacker  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:07:11am

re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They ain't like they used to be. 17 years is a great life span for a fridge.

Have a friend, an engineer for GE. They are trying to design things to work for one month beyond their warranty, 99.6 percent of the time.

That's right. It is.

But it still cools perfectly, runs silently, and the little light comes on when you open the door (Hell, it may not ever shut off, I don't know).

I'm not a 'throw it out and get a new one' guy. I'm a 'fix that thang and put the money in your pocket' guy.

229 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:07:30am
230 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:07:43am

re: #217 Cannadian Club Akbar

I learn more here then any other place. Many smart people.

For me, it started off as a quest to learn about terrorism by Muslims, about the roots of the Israeli-Arab wars, about Haj Amin al Husseini. It's morphed into much, much more.

231 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:08:32am

re: #229 taxfreekiller

OT
Nuke power is the "spice", who ever controls the tech and dev. of nuke power will control the planet once the oil and gas gets over used.

And I got the giant worm right here.

232 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:08:50am

re: #219 thedopefishlives

This, really. After I discovered that employers and potential employers screen employees' social networking pages to make sure they're not a liability to the company, I decided it would be best not to bother. Not that I have anything to hide, but I can't control what some of my "friends" might decide to post, and that could be damaging to my career.

And, then there's the friending and defriending, controlling what some can see, dealing with stuff I don't have time to deal with.

233 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:09:31am

re: #230 MandyManners

For me, it started off as a quest to learn about terrorism by Muslims, about the roots of the Israeli-Arab wars, about Haj Amin al Husseini. It's morphed into much, much more.

Same here. I even got lawn mower repair advice one day a while back.

234 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:09:44am

A woman who stone-cold killed her abusive husband after setting it up is advising how to conceal and control illegal alien minors in a brothel.

235 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:10:07am

re: #232 MandyManners

And, then there's the friending and defriending, controlling what some can see, dealing with stuff I don't have time to deal with.

Exactly. The downside is, every time I go home to fish country, my mother complains that I need to get Facebook so that we can "stay connected". Or, Mom, we can do it like we did before Facebook existed: Send me emails, and I'll call you on the weekends.

236 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:10:08am

re: #225 JamesTKirk

Nah, he's a nice guy. Not one of the engineers working on this project.

A story I heard... can not provide a link... dammit...

Henry Ford used to go into junk yards and look at Fords that had been there for a few years. He would examine the parts of the cars and determine which ones were lasting long beyond the life of the cars.

For example, if the radiator was still in pristine shape after the car had been in the junkyard for five years, then he could make the radiators "less good" and save money.

237 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:10:24am
238 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:10:48am

re: #233 Danny

Same here. I even got lawn mower repair advice one day a while back.

LGF: everything you ever wanted to know.

239 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:11:31am

re: #236 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Henry Ford is the guy who pioneered the technique of planned obsolescence. He is the reason new model cars come out every year, slightly different than the last, "just" updated enough that many people feel the need to upgrade.

240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:12:08am

re: #230 MandyManners

It's morphed into much, much more.

Mandy thinks I'm sexy.

241 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:13:20am

re: #240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

re: #230 MandyManners
It's morphed into much, much more.

Mandy thinks I'm sexy.


242 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:13:34am
243 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:13:45am

re: #235 thedopefishlives

Exactly. The downside is, every time I go home to fish country, my mother complains that I need to get Facebook so that we can "stay connected". Or, Mom, we can do it like we did before Facebook existed: Send me emails, and I'll call you on the weekends.

Up-ding! The Kid has mentioned getting a FB account to keep in touch with my sister but I shot that down very quickly and told him to use the Web cam built into The Satellite he got for Christmas last year.

244 razorbacker  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:14:09am

re: #224 Cannadian Club Akbar

They are talking about a program. I bought one 2 years ago, $700, my old one was 25 years old. I did save some on electric.

Well you see, my baby has already decided that the next 'fridge will be one of those 'side by side with the freezer at the bottom' ones. I've gone and looked at them. If I spend that much for something, I want it to do 0 to 60 in under 8 seconds.

Know what? I wouldn't put it past her to have been swinging from the door handle to try to break the damned thing.

I won't save much on electric. A: I don't have any kids that stand in front of the open door while mentally reciting 'Rime of the Ancient Mariner'. B: We have cheap electric rates. I'm still a bit disappointed that we see no significant savings from replacing a 15 year old heat pump. So C: the time value of money means that the pittance saved on electric will pale compared to the wad-o-cash that I spend right now.

245 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:14:16am

re: #241 JamesTKirk

Damn you! Now that thing's gonna be stuck in my head all morning.

246 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:14:39am

Speaking of The Kid, he got out of bed almost two hours ago and is already ready for school. bbiasec

247 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:16:01am

re: #244 razorbacker

I actually got the extra cash for stuff when I bought my house. A/C unit was old. My electric bill went from $325 to $104.

248 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:17:21am

re: #243 MandyManners

Up-ding! The Kid has mentioned getting a FB account to keep in touch with my sister but I shot that down very quickly and told him to use the Web cam built into The Satellite he got for Christmas last year.

You know, part of me is irked that my parents are more into the tech than I am. But then again, I am just starting out a new life with a new bride, and I can't exactly afford to spend money like my parents, who are sitting on a sizable nest egg that is about to come due when my dad retires in a few years.

249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:17:23am

re: #244 razorbacker

Dude... my customers freakin' love those fridges. They're worth it, if you are going to buy a new fridge.

Of course, yes, I know you are made of money.

Had a customer one time who's wife "accidently" put 10 large candles in the dishwasher.

250 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:18:16am

ACK! He cannot find his contact case.

Later, taters.

251 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:18:46am

re: #245 Danny

Damn you! Now that thing's gonna be stuck in my head all morning.

Antidote:

252 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:19:37am

re: #250 MandyManners

ACK! He cannot find his contact case.

Later, taters.

Back in a flash, Corned Beef Hash.

253 razorbacker  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:21:04am

re: #247 Cannadian Club Akbar

I actually got the extra cash for stuff when I bought my house. A/C unit was old. My electric bill went from $325 to $104.

If I could expect savings like that, it'd be different.

But I know where my electricity goes. Heating the spa, a 42" plasma (I don't think that the new LCD TV uses much. It stays way too cool), computers running 24/7/365, and electric water heater (only real option for now, no natural gas and propane is pretty pricey), and all those little electric doodads that have the led that never goes off.

254 albusteve  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:22:00am

re: #252 haakondahl

btw haak, thanks for the hilarious get well post...much appreciated

255 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:22:14am

re: #251 JamesTKirk

Antidote:

[Video]

Oh, man. I got the antidote for *enny-theeng* right here.

256 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:22:49am

re: #253 razorbacker

I left the house for a couple days and wanted to unplug my water heater. It was hardlined, so I shut off the breaker. Got home and the fridge was off as well. D'oh!!

257 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:23:27am

re: #254 albusteve

btw haak, thanks for the hilarious get well post...much appreciated

So you got your dick straightened or whatever? All mobile and mending?

258 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:23:54am

re: #255 haakondahl

Oh, man. I got the antidote for *enny-theeng* right here.

259 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:23:57am

re: #255 haakondahl

What the...

260 razorbacker  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:23:59am

re: #249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dude... my customers freakin' love those fridges. They're worth it, if you are going to buy a new fridge.

Shhh! Don't encourage her. I've told her that those are made by eleven-year-old slave laborers who are beaten daily and fed only hope and change.

261 Pullus Iulius  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:24:05am

re: #227 Cannadian Club Akbar

I had a cell phone take a shit a month out of warranty.

I'm amazed at what cell phones can do these days.

262 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:24:45am

re: #254 albusteve

Morning, and welcome back.

263 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:26:05am

re: #253 razorbacker

Sold some energy efficient windows to some folks on Saturday night that spent $7,000.00 last year on propane for their furnace.

264 razorbacker  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:27:24am

Besides, the 'new' side by sides with the freezer on the bottom 'fridges are almost just like the ancient model that was in the first house that we ever rented. I hated standing on my head looking for the ice cream.

I'm change-a-phobic. I know that.

265 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:28:03am

re: #264 razorbacker

I'm change-a-phobic. I know that.

Racist.

266 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:28:09am

re: #258 JamesTKirk

[Video]

I'll have to check your link later. Can't actually YouTube right now--got the boy on my lap watching Tube in another Window. Also, iPhoto is doing facial recognition on 7,000 photographs. I wouldn't want to cause the system to slow down...

267 albusteve  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:28:53am

re: #257 haakondahl

So you got your dick straightened or whatever? All mobile and mending?

barely mobile but on the mend, very slowly tho...the success of my latest surgery is highly suspect, a very high probability of failure...again...ho hum

268 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:29:33am

Well, go ahead and get your envy on.

I have to go to a meeting...

269 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:30:10am

re: #266 haakondahl

I'll have to check your link later. Can't actually YouTube right now--got the boy on my lap watching Tube in another Window. Also, iPhoto is doing facial recognition on 7,000 photographs. I wouldn't want to cause the system to slow down...

Aw, too bad. Haven't been in a video war in a while. That was just an early volley.

270 albusteve  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:30:26am

re: #262 Spenser (with an S)

Morning, and welcome back.

thanks...I can't sit for long so hurry up and spit out whatever you're gonna say

271 razorbacker  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:30:35am

re: #263 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sold some energy efficient windows to some folks on Saturday night that spent $7,000.00 last year on propane for their furnace.

When the electric company came out for the energy audit before selling me the new heat/cooling pump they said that I wouldn't really see that much of an improvement on electricity. Tight new windows, thick walls well insulated, etc.

I heat with wood. Heating is the real cost. That's about as cheap as it gets around here, unless you are one of the fortunate ones with a gas well on the place.

272 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:31:29am

Had a very nice dinner last night at the 75 yr.old Italian couple's house next door. My four young ones were mostly polite, knew their rigatoni from their manicotti (we're not Italian) and didn't break anything. Yeah!

273 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:31:46am

re: #271 razorbacker

I heat with wood.

That's how I keep my wife warm. In bed.

//So sue me. I have no good fridge stories.

274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:32:21am

re: #271 razorbacker

Couple made an appointment with us who had a gas well on their place. My friend (the rep) couldn't figure out why they were laughing at him when he spoke of efficiency...

275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:33:00am

re: #273 JamesTKirk

I have a good story.

My wife. A fridge.

...in bed...

276 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:34:27am

re: #275 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I have a good story.

My wife. A fridge.

...in bed...

Your wife is frigid in bed? That's not a good story.

277 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:36:44am

Steve, I hope you shake loose whatever's got a hold of you. I'm very glad to hear that things are going as well as can be expected. We've all been pretty concerned, etc...

278 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:40:20am

re: #273 JamesTKirk

That's how I keep my wife warm. In bed.

//So sue me. I have no good fridge stories.

Mere kindling. Mine's a raging bonefire.

279 razorbacker  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:41:01am

Aw'ite. Sun's up; by the time I get to town the parts house should be open.

Maybe I'll think of something else that I need on the drive in. Hate to waste the trip on only one thing.

'Later.

280 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:43:50am

Morning all, hey if it is still dark out where you are and you haven't seen it yet check out the crescent moon with Venus nearby. Pretty awesome.

281 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:44:59am

re: #280 turn

Morning all, hey if it is still dark out where you are and you haven't seen it yet check out the crescent moon with Venus nearby. Pretty awesome.

It is pitch frickin' dark in Japan. But, uh, if it's a crescent, I'll prolly have to wait until 3-4 in the AM, huh?

282 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:45:01am

re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Couple made an appointment with us who had a gas well on their place. My friend (the rep) couldn't figure out why they were laughing at him when he spoke of efficiency...

Where was that FBV?

283 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:46:31am

re: #281 haakondahl

It is pitch frickin' dark in Japan. But, uh, if it's a crescent, I'll prolly have to wait until 3-4 in the AM, huh?

Jeeze I really don't know. It's directly east of Sac right now.

284 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:46:36am
285 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:47:33am

re: #270 albusteve

thanks...I can't sit for long so hurry up and spit out whatever you're gonna say

How ya doing al?

286 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:48:03am

re: #274 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Couple made an appointment with us who had a gas well on their place. My friend (the rep) couldn't figure out why they were laughing at him when he spoke of efficiency...

Imagine if the halved their consumption and sold the balance to their neighbor.

287 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:49:26am

re: #284 JamesTKirk

That will wake you up, it's 5:45 AM here.

288 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:50:20am

re: #287 turn

That will wake you up, it's 5:45 AM here.

It's 8:50 here, and I'm not fully awake yet.

289 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:50:21am

re: #284 JamesTKirk

Nice! (The boy is off getting a drink).

Hmmm... Vimeo seems to want more resources than a Youtube video.

I take it that you are a fan of the mash-up?

290 albusteve  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:50:25am

re: #285 turn

How ya doing al?

good enough under the circumstances...it's hard to sit tho so I lurk here and there...keeps me out of trouble

291 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:50:29am

"Politics is such a torment that I advise everyone I love
not to mix with it!"
Thomas Jefferson
Can I have an "Amen"!!
Hope all is well with ya'll!

292 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:50:40am

f$%^ Carter ...

293 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:50:44am

Alright kids what did we learn this week?

Race no longer called factor in bus attack

Cracker Barrel Beating May Be Hate Crime

If you are a slack jawed, violent idiot intent on beating someone up - don't use racial epithets.

*For the record I think both cases should be persecuted to the full extent of the law but don't see race as a primary cause for the violence regardless of how racist the perps may be.

One of our legal Lizards can straighten me out on what exactly makes a "hate crime" vs. a regular old crime committed by a racist idiot?

294 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:51:15am

re: #290 albusteve

good enough under the circumstances...it's hard to sit tho so I lurk here and there...keeps me out of trouble

Consider the alternative ... glad to see you up and about. Take care.

295 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:51:20am

re: #289 haakondahl

Nice! (The boy is off getting a drink).

Hmmm... Vimeo seems to want more resources than a Youtube video.

I take it that you are a fan of the mash-up?

I'm a fan of good mashups. As always, Sturgeon's Law applies.

296 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:51:38am

Mash this.

297 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:52:46am

re: #295 JamesTKirk

I'm a fan of good mashups. As always, Sturgeon's Law applies.

re: #295 JamesTKirk

I'm a fan of good mashups. As always, Sturgeon's Law applies.

How 'bout you grow some hooters and we'll run off and get married?

298 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:53:52am

re: #297 haakondahl

How 'bout you grow some hooters and we'll run off and get married?


You can buy those now you know. Not that there is anything wrong with that...

299 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:54:37am

re: #295 JamesTKirk

Then you obviously like YTMND Fads...

300 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:54:38am

re: #296 haakondahl

Mash this.

Been here five minutes and already learned something, had no idea what a mash up was. Pretty cool ...

301 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:55:11am

re: #298 DaddyG

You can buy those now you know. Not that there is anything wrong with that...

[Link: www.hooterscalendar.com...]

302 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:55:26am

re: #297 haakondahl

How 'bout you grow some hooters

I think I'm already part-way there...

and we'll run off and get married?

You might have to negotiate that one with my wife. And my state doesn't allow it.

303 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:56:19am

re: #280 turn

Morning all, hey if it is still dark out where you are and you haven't seen it yet check out the crescent moon with Venus nearby. Pretty awesome.

Saw that yesterday morning, with some clouds reflecting some crazy colors. Beautiful.

304 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:56:29am

Not a mashup, but still funny...

305 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:57:26am

re: #288 JamesTKirk

Does not compute ...

306 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 5:58:50am

re: #303 Leonidas Hoplite

Saw that yesterday morning, with some clouds reflecting some crazy colors. Beautiful.

Cool, it's perfectly clear here. Seems like an unusual amount of reflected light off the moon to me today.

307 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:00:11am

re: #305 turn

Does not compute ...

Theme song to one of my favorite superhero movies, made by Parker and Stone just before they started on the South Park series.

308 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:00:54am
309 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:00:59am

re: #295 JamesTKirk

I'm a fan of good mashups. As always, Sturgeon's Law applies.

What's that?

310 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:01:24am

Amazing how green Venus looks these days.

311 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:01:24am

re: #307 JamesTKirk

Theme song to one of my favorite superhero movies, made by Parker and Stone just before they started on the South Park series.

Right on ...

312 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:01:31am

re: #309 turn

What's that?

"90% of everything is crap."

313 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:03:05am

re: #311 turn

Right on ...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

314 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:03:14am

Snoop Dogg vs. Guns n Roses.

Epic Score!

315 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:03:29am

re: #312 JamesTKirk

"90% of everything is crap."

Second thing I've learned here today, jeeze I need to log on earlier I guess.

316 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:03:49am

re: #312 JamesTKirk

"90% of everything is crap."

Sturgeon never read Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance.

317 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:04:22am

re: #315 turn

Second thing I've learned here today, jeeze I need to log on earlier I guess.

LGF is a very different place in the dark.

318 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:04:45am

re: #313 JamesTKirk

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Orgazmorator, where can I get mine? ha

319 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:04:53am

re: #314 haakondahl

Snoop Dogg vs. Guns n Roses.

Epic Score!

Unfortunately, one of my favorites ("Welcome to the Jungle" meets "The Lion Sleeps Tonight") isn't on YouTube anymore.

320 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:05:35am

re: #317 haakondahl

LGF is a very different place in the dark.

Sure is, bbiam

321 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:07:02am

First time I have seen this. So far, very good.

Faith No More vs. Beastie Boys.

Waiting on the chorus for final judgment.

322 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:07:51am

Oh, they bailed ont he chorus. Damn. Oh well. Can;t ask for enerything.

323 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:08:05am

Left-wing propagandist Michael Moore was a guest on Jay Leno's ow last night. Anyone see him?

I watched parts, and all I can say is shame on Jay for promoting this idiot.
Our nation is swirling down the toilet because idiots like Moore are lifted up as intellectual heroes.

"oh the times they are a changing" Death to capitalism.- the kids love Moore.

324 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:08:59am

re: #313 JamesTKirk

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]


Well I'll be. I always thought that was a rumor intended to tweak Mormon sensibilities and not a real movie.

325 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:09:40am

Moore is less.

326 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:10:05am

Well we knew this was coming: 'We may have to attack Iran by Dec.'

I'm sure that Hillary is working hard on that strongly worded letter. Probably won't be an address to receive it by the time Israel is done with Iran. Sigh.

327 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:10:52am

re: #324 DaddyG

Well I'll be. I always thought that was a rumor intended to tweak Mormon sensibilities and not a real movie.

Nope, it's real. I got that on a bootleg VHS way back when South Park was in its first season, years before it got a limited theatrical release.

Speaking of hard-to-believe movies, though, have you heard of this one? Looks like a movie about Iraq made in Japan. With bunnies.

328 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:11:24am

45% Of Doctors Would Consider Quitting If Congress Passes Health Care Overhaul


Two-thirds, or 65%, of doctors say they oppose the proposed government expansion plan. This contradicts the administration's claims that doctors are part of an "unprecedented coalition" supporting a medical overhaul.

It also differs with findings of a poll released Monday by National Public Radio that suggests a "majority of physicians want public and private insurance options," and clashes with media reports such as Tuesday's front-page story in the Los Angeles Times with the headline "Doctors Go For Obama's Reform."

Nowhere in the Times story does it say doctors as a whole back the overhaul. It says only that the AMA — the "association representing the nation's physicians" and what "many still regard as the country's premier lobbying force" — is "lobbying and advertising to win public support for President Obama's sweeping plan."

The AMA, in fact, represents approximately 18% of physicians and has been hit with a number of defections by members opposed to the AMA's support of Democrats' proposed health care overhaul.

329 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:13:12am

And now YouTube is running too slow to watch anything. I think we broke it.

Time to buy a new one with the freezer on the bottom.

330 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:13:21am

Re the 9/12 protests:

A friend of mine flew out for the protests. He didn't say anything about the 2 million being claimed by some of the organizers, but he did say it was pretty much a sea of people. I think the 60-70k claimed by the MSM is probably low. Didn't BBC or the London Times or some other UK media outlet estimate closer to 1 million?

He also said that the majority of the signs weren't anything like the 'Obama=Hitler' signs. Sadly, in any mass protest, you'll have some people who are nuts, whether it's the Birthers or the 'troothers'.

331 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:13:25am

re: #323 FrogMarch

I told my wife I might want to watch the new Leno show since nothing great was on at 10 last night. She called out to me "His guests are Cameron Diaz, Tom Cruise and Michael Moore". I just laughed "Yeah, right. Wouldn't that be funny if he loaded up a show with jackasses like that?!"

She was serious.

332 Killian Bundy  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:13:33am

Indonesian adulterers to be stoned to death

Adulterers will be stoned to death under draconian new laws passed in the Indonesian province of Aceh yesterday.

Hardline Muslim politicians in the semi-autonomous region unanimously passed the Sharia edict, under which single people will also be given 100 lashes for pre-marital sex, just weeks before a new, more moderate government dominated by the Aceh Party is due to take power.

Although the administration of Governor Irwandi Yusuf had opposed the legislation, when the chairman of the 69-seat regional parliament asked if the bill could be passed into law its members answered in unison: "Yes, it can."

/tea party!

333 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:13:48am

re: #327 JamesTKirk

Nope, it's real. I got that on a bootleg VHS way back when South Park was in its first season, years before it got a limited theatrical release.

Speaking of hard-to-believe movies, though, have you heard of this one? Looks like a movie about Iraq made in Japan. With bunnies.




I wondered where those pics of snipers blasting groundhogs came from. /

334 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:16:05am

re: #332 Killian Bundy

Indonesian adulterers to be stoned to death

/tea party!

I cannot fathom how much pot it would take to stone someone to death. /

335 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:17:12am

After a hearty breakfast of pork rinds and Kool-aid I am off to complete a massive project due at 1:00pm EST. Wish me luck.

336 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:17:37am

re: #331 Spenser (with an S)

I told my wife I might want to watch the new Leno show since nothing great was on at 10 last night. She called out to me "His guests are Cameron Diaz, Tom Cruise and Michael Moore". I just laughed "Yeah, right. Wouldn't that be funny if he loaded up a show with jackasses like that?!"

She was serious.

I didn't watch Diaz or Tom. I'm sure they were delightfully vapid. I did force myself to watch Moore. Wow - the man is an idiot. He's the dumbest propagandist ever.

337 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:18:27am

re: #331 Spenser (with an S)

I can't remember the last time I watched a late night talk show (although I guess Leno's new one is now prime time?) It's been literally years.

338 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:18:58am

re: #337 Mad Al-Jaffee

I can't remember the last time I watched a late night talk show (although I guess Leno's new one is now prime time?) It's been literally years.

It's been several years, if not longer.

339 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:19:45am

I heard yesterday that Moore said he is going to stop making documentaries. I don't think he ever did make a documentary.

340 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:20:13am

re: #332 Killian Bundy

Indonesian adulterers to be stoned to death

/tea party!

I don't care. Oh, wait--no, I don't after all. Thought for a moment there that I cared. I mean, it's all their fault for living south of the equator, really. You just have to expect that when you go down there.
I'll tell you what is going to make the planet blow up, however:

Macy’s Inc. and Kroger Co. face a combined $1.5 billion shortfall in their pension plans, gaps that could take years to close and pose an added threat to their profits.

/Killgore Trout

341 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:20:42am

re: #331 Spenser (with an S)

My wife HATES Tom. I think it was his comments on depression that did it.

342 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:22:04am

re: #336 FrogMarch

I didn't watch Diaz or Tom. I'm sure they were delightfully vapid. I did force myself to watch Moore. Wow - the man is an idiot. He's the dumbest propagandist ever.

I remember talking to someone who actually watched Michael Moore and took him seriously. It was all I could do not to reach out and squeeze his neck until his head popped. Mind-blowing stupidity at its finest.

343 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:22:13am

re: #327 JamesTKirk

Speaking of hard-to-believe movies, though, have you heard of this one? Looks like a movie about Iraq made in Japan. With bunnies.

[Video]

That looks like a machinima production.

344 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:22:16am

re: #341 right_wing2

My wife HATES Tom. I think it was his comments on depression that did it.

If you look at old pics of Tom, he didn't have 2 front teeth. He had one right in the middle. Million dollar smile my ass.

345 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:23:06am

re: #341 right_wing2

My wife and I were about falling on the floor laughing the other day reading Iowahawk's "I pledge" transcript while watching the actual celebrities on the video. I highly recommend it.

346 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:23:59am

re: #345 Spenser (with an S)

Must have missed that one

347 haakondahl  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:26:04am

re: #327 JamesTKirk

Nope, it's real. I got that on a bootleg VHS way back when South Park was in its first season, years before it got a limited theatrical release.

Speaking of hard-to-believe movies, though, have you heard of this one? Looks like a movie about Iraq made in Japan. With bunnies.


[Video]

The title at about 2:15 says something like "It's so damned cute, isn't it!?"

348 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:26:09am

re: #346 right_wing2

[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]

349 DaddyG  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:29:28am

Flounce on 620 downstairs. They don't even try to be creative anymore do they? (And yes I'm avoiding that project)

350 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:29:54am

re: #346 right_wing2

Right here. It's hysterical on its own, but watching the video from the campaign kicks it into the "I just peed my pants" range.

351 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:31:07am

re: #348 Mad Al-Jaffee

[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]

It's funny because it's true.

352 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:32:04am

re: #349 DaddyG

Flounce on 620 downstairs. They don't even try to be creative anymore do they? (And yes I'm avoiding that project)

A flounce with no bounce. Perhaps they need Pert

353 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:32:10am

re: #349 DaddyG

Flounce on 620 downstairs.

His name was manlicker. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

354 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:32:38am

re: #353 JamesTKirk

LOL

355 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:33:52am

re: #350 Spenser (with an S)

Right here. It's hysterical on its own, but watching the video from the campaign kicks it into the "I just peed my pants" range.

Could be worse.

356 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:33:53am

Do any of you read the comic book The Walking Dead? I've been reading the hardcover collections and I finished the most recent one last night. Once I started reading the first one I couldn't put it down and I went back to the library and got the rest. I'll have to start reading the most recent graphic novel versions, or wait until book 5 comes out.

If you like zombie movies, you'll love this comic. Book 4's ending was devestating.

357 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:35:27am

re: #348 Mad Al-Jaffee

That's good!

358 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:35:30am

I am up-dinging you but I am not clicking the video based on your intro.

/

359 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:36:33am

I'm getting ready to order a copy of The Kid's math book from the publisher so that I can help him out better--I gotta' read the stuff. He has a big test Friday coverng such things as front-end estimation and regrouping and the like. The next chapter is flat-out algebra. They had introduction to algebra last year.

I already have a copy of his science book--I asked his teacher for a copy of the book they used last year but, they replace the texts every other year. I'm not gonna' get a copy of his English text book because it's made by the same folks who published my sister's college freshman text book--the successors to Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, and it roughly follows the same format although at a slower rater. Plus, I know the subject matter already.

When did it get this difficult? We didn't learn about complex sentences until much later. Same with colons. I don't recall when we started diagramming but, I don't think it was when we were nine.

360 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:36:39am

re: #357 right_wing2

Me pledge too!

361 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:36:41am

re: #356 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'll have to check it out(zombie movies/books=guilty pleasure)

362 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:38:32am

re: #350 Spenser (with an S)

Right here. It's hysterical on its own, but watching the video from the campaign kicks it into the "I just peed my pants" range.

Also by Iowahawk:

363 jordash1212  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:38:54am

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

While the long-anticipated, 575-page report condemned rocket attacks by Palestinian armed groups against Israeli civilians, it reserved its harshest language for Israel’s treatment of the civilian Palestinian population in the Gaza Strip, both during the war and through the longer-term blockade of the territory.

No surprise that the UN finds Israel's reaction worse than the problem itself.

364 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:39:06am

re: #359 MandyManners

I've been getting my kid's textbooks used from Amazon.com. I search using the ISBN number so I get the right edition. Usually saves a lot of $$.

365 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:39:50am

re: #356 Mad Al-Jaffee

Do any of you read the comic book The Walking Dead? I've been reading the hardcover collections and I finished the most recent one last night. Once I started reading the first one I couldn't put it down and I went back to the library and got the rest. I'll have to start reading the most recent graphic novel versions, or wait until book 5 comes out.

If you like zombie movies, you'll love this comic. Book 4's ending was devestating.

Have not seen it. I'm working through The Sandman series right now.

366 cliffster  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:40:14am

Serena Williams elaborated on previous statements regarding her outburst in the US Open finals:

I need to make it clear to all young people that I handled myself inappropriately and it's not the way to act -- win or lose, good call or bad call in any sport, in any manner.

I like to lead by example. We all learn from experiences both good and bad. I will learn and grow from this, and be a better person as a result.

Nice work, Serena. Very, very poor judgement originally, but very good job in owning it.

367 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:40:41am

re: #359 MandyManners

I know from my boys(10 and 12)that they are giving the kids more advanced courses than we recieved at their age.The kids seem to be keeping up well...the parents...thats another story...lol
They also changed how to work some math problems.I'm almost afraid to help the boys for fear of screwing them up

368 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:42:06am

re: #366 cliffster

Serena Williams elaborated on previous statements regarding her outburst in the US Open finals:

Nice work, Serena. Very, very poor judgement originally, but very good job in owning it.

I always have the fight the temptation to blame my outbursts on "the demon rum".

369 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:42:19am

Question do you guys get the normal edition or the teachers edition?

370 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:42:20am

re: #365 Creeping Eruption

Have not seen it. I'm working through The Sandman series right now.

It's the first comic book (besides stuff by Peter Bagge) I've been interested in in years. I kind of stumbled upon the first one in the library last week. Started reading it Friday night and didn't get to bed until close to 2:00 because I had to finish it.

371 cliffster  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:42:28am

On the other hand, Kanye West seems less than sincere.

“My entire life, I’ve only wanted to give and do something that I felt was right. And I immediately knew in the situation that it was wrong, and it wasn’t a spectacle … it’s actually someone’s emotions, you know, that I stepped on.”

Really? How about when you stood up in front of very vulnerable people in New Orleans and incited them to a frenzy by calling the President a racist? Was that trying to help people too?

372 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:42:30am

re: #359 MandyManners

I'll have to attend class with my kids if I am to help them with math. After about 3rd grade, I will be out of my league.

373 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:42:42am

re: #330 right_wing2

Re the 9/12 protests:

A friend of mine flew out for the protests. He didn't say anything about the 2 million being claimed by some of the organizers, but he did say it was pretty much a sea of people. I think the 60-70k claimed by the MSM is probably low. Didn't BBC or the London Times or some other UK media outlet estimate closer to 1 million?

He also said that the majority of the signs weren't anything like the 'Obama=Hitler' signs. Sadly, in any mass protest, you'll have some people who are nuts, whether it's the Birthers or the 'troothers'.

That's true, unfortunately the nuts are being over emphasized as representing the majority. We hashed this around yesterday, I put the crowd at between 70 and 100k or thereabouts.

374 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:42:57am

re: #370 Mad Al-Jaffee

It's the first comic book (besides stuff by Peter Bagge) I've been interested in in years. I kind of stumbled upon the first one in the library last week. Started reading it Friday night and didn't get to bed until close to 2:00 because I had to finish it.

Cool. I'll check it out.

375 jordash1212  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:43:23am

re: #366 cliffster

Serena Williams elaborated on previous statements regarding her outburst in the US Open finals:

Nice work, Serena. Very, very poor judgement originally, but very good job in owning it.

No. She didn't even acknowledge what happened in the first press conference. I'm sick of Serena evading any criticism for her bad behavior because of "racism." Rudeness is rudeness. I don't care what color your skin is. Not only that, but the attitude she brings to tennis is disgusting. Whenever she loses, she mopes in the post-match conference and blames it on her condition -- never compliments her opponents or admits defeat by something other than herself. This tirade of hers is only another thing I'll add on to my list of things I dislike about her personality. Don't even get me started on her actual tennis game.

376 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:43:32am

re: #369 Boondock St. Bender

I get the student editions.

377 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:43:34am

re: #371 cliffster

On the other hand, Kanye West seems less than sincere.

Really? How about when you stood up in front of very vulnerable people in New Orleans and incited them to a frenzy by calling the President a racist? Was that trying to help people too?

Hey - whatever sells///

378 cliffster  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:43:39am

re: #359 MandyManners

I didn't learn about colons until my last trip to the doctor...

/ cue symbol crash

379 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:44:21am

re: #368 JamesTKirk

But do ya "Outburst" like a Pirate?
Arrgh!
All Hail Captian Morgan!!
Arrgh!

380 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:44:42am

re: #368 JamesTKirk

I always have the fight the temptation to blame my outbursts on "the demon rum".

Don't fight it. Rum is your friend.

381 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:44:47am
382 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:45:28am

re: #373 turn


From what Rob said and from what the UK media said, I'd go closer to the 600k range, but that could easily be miles off.

383 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:45:54am

re: #380 Creeping Eruption

Don't fight it. Rum is your friend.


There is a better alternative.:)

384 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:46:02am

re: #367 Boondock St. Bender


They also changed how to work some math problems.I'm almost afraid to help the boys for fear of screwing them up

Yep, that cursed Chicago Math does everything backwards!

"Me no get that, look right I think". "Uh, thanks Dad."

385 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:46:28am

re: #379 reloadingisnotahobby

But do ya "Outburst" like a Pirate?
Arrgh!
All Hail Captian Morgan!!
Arrgh!

386 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:47:17am

re: #384 Spenser (with an S)

Exactlly

387 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:47:34am

SO I get into work early today to clean up my very messy office. I put on Dr. Dre's "The Chronic" very loud because I am the only one here. You can hear it pretty clearly in the reception area. My 65 year old boss comes in. I told him I would turn it down because I am sure he does not want to listen to rap at 7:00 in the morning. "Oh, no problem. Don't turn it down on my account."

I love my job.

388 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:47:44am

There's a Tea Party in my little town tonight.
The radio announced that the speaker will be
A retired Dentist ...Failed to mention he did 7.5 in prison
Tax evasion!
John Bircher to the core!
Maybe I sould go ,just to shout him down!
What a Maroon!

389 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:48:10am

re: #387 Creeping Eruption

SO I get into work early today to clean up my very messy office. I put on Dr. Dre's "The Chronic" very loud because I am the only one here. You can hear it pretty clearly in the reception area. My 65 year old boss comes in. I told him I would turn it down because I am sure he does not want to listen to rap at 7:00 in the morning. "Oh, no problem. Don't turn it down on my account."

I love my job.

I wear headphones.

390 Cheesehead  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:48:42am

re: #384 Spenser (with an S)

Does Chicago Math have anything to do with the Bears performance against the Packers Sunday night? Sorry, couldn't help my self.

391 Coracle  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:49:13am

re: #373 turn

That's true, unfortunately the nuts are being over emphasized as representing the majority.

And the hosts. Don't forget the hosts.

We hashed this around yesterday, I put the crowd at between 70 and 100k or thereabouts.

I agree with this number.

392 Gray Skies  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:50:08am

re: #328 FrogMarch

My son-in-law, who is a specialist in radiology (where there already is a shortage) and is a partner in his group, has said that if the government takes over health care, he will go private, accepting cash-paying patients only. I gather that several of his colleagues feel the same way.

393 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:51:17am

re: #382 right_wing2

From what Rob said and from what the UK media said, I'd go closer to the 600k range, but that could easily be miles off.

Beck said 1.7 mil, the left says fewer and the right says more. Either way it must be shocking to the administration. Where did your friend fly in from?

394 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:51:39am

re: #390 Cheesehead

They also changed how to work some math problems.I'm almost afraid to help the boys for fear of screwing them up

Being a Lions fan means never being able to make fun of anyone.

395 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:51:42am

re: #364 Danny

I've been getting my kid's textbooks used from Amazon.com. I search using the ISBN number so I get the right edition. Usually saves a lot of $$.

I hadn't thought about that. Are they new? For example, the science text copyright date is 2010. That cost me about $70.00. I'll check it out. Thank you!

396 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:52:14am

re: #389 JamesTKirk

I wear headphones.

I would but I get tons of phone calls and people come in and out of my office a lot.

397 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:52:21am

re: #395 MandyManners

You can get new copies if they have the book, yeah.

398 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:52:59am

re: #394 Spenser (with an S)

Duh, I copied the wrong part. I meant the Bears part.

399 wintercat  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:53:10am

From what I have read the ACORN woman in the recent video did not kill her husband. She is saying now that she was afraid for her safety and she wanted to come off as strong.

In a subsequent telephone conversation on Tuesday, Spach said Kaelke pretended to cooperate with O'Keefe and Giles because she feared for her safety.

"She was in an office all by herself," Spach said. "She felt unsafe in their company."

Conservative journalists ACORN video

Check out the comments too. One commenter says,

why don't you say Liberal journalists?

Excellent question.

400 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:53:35am

re: #391 Coracle

I agree with this number.

The crowd is being co-opted by nuts, yes.

401 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:53:38am

re: #390 Cheesehead

Does Chicago Math have anything to do with the Bears performance against the Packers Sunday night? Sorry, couldn't help my self.

Something like: If you throw x shitty passes, on average how many will be intercepted . .

LOL. GO PACK!

402 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:54:51am

re: #392 Gray Skies

My son-in-law, who is a specialist in radiology (where there already is a shortage) and is a partner in his group, has said that if the government takes over health care, he will go private, accepting cash-paying patients only. I gather that several of his colleagues feel the same way.

I think the threat of a shortage of doctors under obamacare is for real. Talk about rationing and long delays to get care ...

403 Cheesehead  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:54:51am

re: #394 Spenser (with an S)

I gotta ask you, what the hell is wrong with the Lions anyway? I mean year after year after year being so bad. Is it the players, the coaching, or a combination of both? Most people I know dont even laugh at them anymore, just feel sad for their fans,

404 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:56:00am

re: #395 MandyManners

I hadn't thought about that. Are they new? For example, the science text copyright date is 2010. That cost me about $70.00. I'll check it out. Thank you!

Both the boys are buying their books from Amazon, saving huge dollars.

405 cliffster  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:56:12am

re: #403 Cheesehead

I gotta ask you, what the hell is wrong with the Lions anyway? I mean year after year after year being so bad. Is it the players, the coaching, or a combination of both? Most people I know dont even laugh at them anymore, just feel sad for their fans,

All they've ever needed is a really good running back. If they had that, they'd win the superbowl every year. Oh wait...

406 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:56:23am

re: #403 Cheesehead


I gotta ask you, what the hell is wrong with the Lions anyway? I mean year after year after year being so bad. Is it the players, the coaching, or a combination of both? Most people I know dont even laugh at them anymore, just feel sad for their fans,

Stuff your sorries in a sack, mister!

//

407 Locker  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:56:41am

re: #403 Cheesehead

I gotta ask you, what the hell is wrong with the Lions anyway? I mean year after year after year being so bad. Is it the players, the coaching, or a combination of both? Most people I know dont even laugh at them anymore, just feel sad for their fans,

I would imagine, even with revenue sharing, that Detroit is a very tough market.

408 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:56:47am

re: #393 turn

He's in southern Missouri, probably flew from Springfield or Little Rock.

I wonder what the numbers would have looked like for this (and for other major DC events) if everyone who wanted to be there could have made it?

409 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:57:16am

So less than a year ago, this nation elected President Obama. Back then, we were not racist. But now - now that there is push-back against Obama's plans, schemes and ideas - we are all racists.

Jimmy Cater says so.

410 Cheesehead  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:58:42am

re: #406 Spenser (with an S)

We'll take your sack and give your Lions 4 in return! LOL

411 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 6:59:51am

re: #408 right_wing2
Funny you say that...
I was watching C-Span while having lunch and the wife asked "Where is that"??
"D.C...
"We should have gone"!
Almost fell off the Kitchen stool!!LOL
She is NOT politically an activist!!

412 Locker  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:00:00am

re: #409 FrogMarch

So less than a year ago, this nation elected President Obama. Back then, we were not racist. But now - now that there is push-back against Obama's plans, schemes and ideas - we are all racists.

Jimmy Cater says so.

"I think it's based on racism," Carter said. "There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president."

How do you parse that as "we are all racists". Are you disputing the above quote?

413 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:00:08am

re: #364 Danny

I've been getting my kid's textbooks used from Amazon.com. I search using the ISBN number so I get the right edition. Usually saves a lot of $$.

Amazon doesn't have his math book but, it does have the English book. Maybe I'm screwing up the ISBN for the math book but, like the science book, it's copyright date is 2010.

414 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:01:20am

re: #412 Locker

Thats great jimmy,now,here take your medication...

415 Locker  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:01:53am

re: #414 Boondock St. Bender

Thats great jimmy,now,here take your medication...

Jimmy steal your girlfriend or something?

416 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:02:46am

re: #413 MandyManners

Try both the 10-digit and 13-digit ISBN numbers.

417 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:03:06am

re: #408 right_wing2

He's in southern Missouri, probably flew from Springfield or Little Rock.

I wonder what the numbers would have looked like for this (and for other major DC events) if everyone who wanted to be there could have made it?

You know that is a very good point, the people who showed up from out of state were really committed having to fork out a grand or so to show up. I would have gone but I can't afford it, imagine how many people there are like me and you.

418 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:03:15am

re: #415 Locker

worse,i had to live through his administration...malaise anyone?

419 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:03:42am

Looks like I'll be caling the publisher today. Gah.

420 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:05:52am

re: #409 FrogMarch

So less than a year ago, this nation elected President Obama. Back then, we were not racist. But now - now that there is push-back against Obama's plans, schemes and ideas - we are all racists.

Jimmy Cater says so.

I am almost at the point where I will freely admit Carter Derangement Syndrome. If Carter says it is daytime, I will first assume it is night until shown otherwise. He is such a fucking disgrace, his message is automatically bunk.

421 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:05:58am

I'm convinced textbook publishing's a rackett.

422 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:06:09am

" What Jimmy Cater thinks didn't matter when Jimmy
Carter Mattered"!

423 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:06:16am

re: #418 Boondock St. Bender

worse,i had to live through his administration...malaise anyone?

No thanks. I like Miracle Whip myself.

424 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:06:19am

re: #409 FrogMarch

So less than a year ago, this nation elected President Obama. Back then, we were not racist. But now - now that there is push-back against Obama's plans, schemes and ideas - we are all racists.

Jimmy Cater says so.


ding, exactly right. When confronted with this the libs fall back on an argument that racisim still exists in this country. Everything exists in this coountry to some degree, duh! btw f@#$ Carter.

425 Cheesehead  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:06:34am

re: #418 Boondock St. Bender

Same here. Even voted (ugh) for him once. Hold the malaise ; extra bacon please. Or maybe rabbit?!

426 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:06:44am

re: #367 Boondock St. Bender

I know from my boys(10 and 12)that they are giving the kids more advanced courses than we recieved at their age.The kids seem to be keeping up well...the parents...thats another story...lol
They also changed how to work some math problems.I'm almost afraid to help the boys for fear of screwing them up

re: #372 Creeping Eruption

I'll have to attend class with my kids if I am to help them with math. After about 3rd grade, I will be out of my league.

Once I read the text, it makes sense when dealing with some concepts. However, I'm already looking into tutors. There are a few in high school who charge about $10.00/hr..

427 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:07:18am

re: #378 cliffster

I didn't learn about colons until my last trip to the doctor...

/ cue symbol crash

If I weren't laughing I'd whack ya'.

428 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:07:43am

re: #425 Cheesehead

Mr.President!Use the holy hand grenade of Antioch!

429 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:08:01am

re: #389 JamesTKirk

I wear headphones.

In bed.

430 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:08:10am

re: #411 reloadingisnotahobby

Funny you say that...
I was watching C-Span while having lunch and the wife asked "Where is that"??
"D.C...
"We should have gone"!
Almost fell off the Kitchen stool!!LOL
She is NOT politically an activist!!

The turnwife isnt' either but she went to the tea party here in Sac. I had to work but I made the sign for her.

431 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:08:11am

re: #423 Creeping Eruption

No thanks. I like Miracle Whip myself.

I need to ketchup on these comments.

432 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:09:02am

re: #427 MandyManners

If I weren't laughing I'd whack ya'.

in bed?

433 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:09:14am

re: #384 Spenser (with an S)

Yep, that cursed Chicago Math does everything backwards!

"Me no get that, look right I think". "Uh, thanks Dad."

I was introduced to New Math in the third grade in Chicago and it fucked me up for life.

434 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:09:21am

re: #412 Locker

How do you parse that as "we are all racists". Are you disputing the above quote?

"There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president."

So you agree with Jimmy Carter?
Jimmy Carter isn't just talking about the radicals, he's including everyone who dare disagree. A majority of voters voted Obama into office, and now this nation is racist.

435 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:10:26am

re: #404 turn

Both the boys are buying their books from Amazon, saving huge dollars.

The books are included in tuition but, I need copies for me. And, if he has them at home, he won't have to lug them back and forth.

436 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:10:30am
437 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:10:32am

re: #433 MandyManners

I was introduced to New Math in the third grade in Chicago and it fucked me up for life.

The nice thing about having an engineer for a dad is, he can teach you 20 different kinds of math, including math on a slide rule.

438 Cheesehead  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:10:36am

re: #433 MandyManners

Well if that doesn't just explain it all!
//

439 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:11:34am

re: #430 turn

There was sign in D.C. ..said "Doesn't matter what my sign says
You will call me a racist anyway"!
Exactly!!!

440 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:11:42am

re: #434 FrogMarch

Carter moron.

441 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:11:51am

re: #437 thedopefishlives

The nice thing about having an engineer for a dad is, he can teach you 20 different kinds of math, including math on a slide rule.

I can do math in binary, decimal, hexadecimal, Roman numerals...

442 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:12:03am

re: #433 MandyManners

I was introduced to New Math in the third grade in Chicago and it fucked me up for life.

in bed

443 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:12:12am

re: #409 FrogMarch

To oppose the Obamessiah is racist.

444 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:12:55am

re: #443 right_wing2

Forgot the sarc tags

445 John Neverbend  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:13:01am

re: #52 Fenway_Nation

America's 2nd worst president says that opposition to 0bama is clearly rooted in racism.

Wilson's son defended Carter's attack. Wilson's son says Congressman is not racist

446 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:13:24am

Good morning lizards!

Johns Hopkins student used samurai sword to kill intruder, police say

BALTIMORE — Baltimore police say a Johns Hopkins University student armed with a samurai sword killed an intruder in his garage.

Police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi says campus police and an off-duty city officer responding to a call for a suspicious person heard screams to call police around 1:20 a.m. Tuesday.

Guglielmi says the undergraduate student told the man he found in his garage to leave and the man accosted him. That’s when Guglielmi says the student defended himself, cutting off the man’s hand and causing a severe laceration to his upper body.

He says the man died at the scene, but police are not yet releasing his name.

/We need a ban on samurai swords!

447 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:13:30am

re: #397 Danny

You can get new copies if they have the book, yeah.

Amazon doesn't have either the science or math texts. I doubt it would save much because the English book is $66.00 plus shipping, which put it at the same cost as the publisher's price for the science text. The used English text is $4.00 plus shipping but I have a grip on English. Oh, wait. He doesn't, and it'd be easier on him to not have to lug it back and forth. I'll get it. YOU SAVED ME MONEY TODAY!

*smooch*

448 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:14:43am

re: #435 MandyManners

The books are included in tuition but, I need copies for me. And, if he has them at home, he won't have to lug them back and forth.

I guess it's a good idea then, you can brush up and he'll always have the book even if he forgot to bring it home (which has happened numerous times with the boys - gawd I hate to have to lug them back to school to pick up something they forgot).

449 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:14:47am

re: #446 NJDhockeyfan
I read that!
Hope they don't charge him with ANYTHING!!

450 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:15:08am

re: #434 FrogMarch

"There is an inherent feeling among many in this country that an African-American should not be president."

So you agree with Jimmy Carter?
Jimmy Carter isn't just talking about the radicals, he's including everyone who dare disagree. A majority of voters voted Obama into office, and now this nation is racist.

I feel that this PARTICULAR African American shouldn't be president.

Carter's defending Obama because Obama makes Carter look competent.

451 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:16:41am

re: #450 right_wing2

I feel that this PARTICULAR African American shouldn't be president.

Carter's defending Obama because Obama makes Carter look competent.

ftfy

452 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:16:55am

re: #450

because Obama makes Carter look competent.


...He IS the Messiah!!!

453 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:17:31am

re: #451 sattv4u2

That'll work, too.

454 Coracle  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:18:34am

re: #446 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

Johns Hopkins student used samurai sword to kill intruder, police say

/We need a ban on samurai swords!

You can have my sword when you pry it from my cold dead severed hand.

455 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:18:36am

re: #416 Danny

Try both the 10-digit and 13-digit ISBN numbers.

HOT DIGGITY DOG! I was entering the publication date into the ISBN. When I entered the correct one, I found a few at a considerable saving. Thanks, again!

456 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:19:40am

re: #432 Mad Al-Jaffee

in bed?

How did you know?

457 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:20:09am

Upon reflection i will say that there is racism among elements of the presidents opposition(as we have discussed here, bone through the nose photo shops etc.)But,i would also like to add that it appears that a vast majority are motivated by disagreement with his policies.unfortunately most of the leaders of the protests are raving loons.(see beck)

458 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:20:39am

re: #446 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

Johns Hopkins student used samurai sword to kill intruder, police say

/We need a ban on samurai swords!

They are banned in some countries, Japan included (I think.)

459 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:20:41am

re: #437 thedopefishlives

The nice thing about having an engineer for a dad is, he can teach you 20 different kinds of math, including math on a slide rule.

My dad still his his. He's talked about using it to teach The Kid and I'm gonna' give him the go-ahead.

460 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:21:43am

re: #446 NJDhockeyfan

Good morning lizards!

Johns Hopkins student used samurai sword to kill intruder, police say

/We need a ban on samurai swords!

You laugh. But of course the usual suspects would love just that. (See, e.g., United Kingdom)

461 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:21:56am

re: #438 Cheesehead

Well if that doesn't just explain it all!
//

And, then, our eighth grade math teacher told us girls that we didn't need to pay attention because our husbands would balance our checkbooks. No, I'm not joking. Assholes.

462 Fluffy Bunny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:22:22am

{Steve}...did I just read that you actually went in for "ding-dong enhancement"?! *bats eyes* Hellooo there big boy! *wink*

Seriously, it's great to see you and I hope that you are on the mend.

BTW, I have a vascular surgery background, if you have any questions ...
feel free to email me.

463 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:22:34am

re: #455 MandyManners

HOT DIGGITY DOG! I was entering the publication date into the ISBN. When I entered the correct one, I found a few at a considerable saving. Thanks, again!

Amazon is da bomb. My guy uses it all the time to buy and sell books - including text books.

464 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:22:49am

re: #442 sattv4u2

in bed

I know what six inc

Oh, never mind.

465 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:23:03am

re: #437 thedopefishlives

The nice thing about having an engineer for a dad is, he can teach you 20 different kinds of math, including math on a slide rule.

turn's an engineer and I just happened to be showing turnspawn2 how to graph in Excel last night. This kid is so stubborn, he kept insisting he could do a xy plot with a column of colors and a column of numbers! ha, good kid though - he eventually figured it out on his own that a scatter plot is what he needed. These kids are really doing advanced math for their age now days, my biggest problem with them is they refuse to show their work. I was taught to write out every single step, they just jump to the answer. The younger generation wants instant gratification - it can bite you in the long run.

466 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:23:16am

re: #461 MandyManners

WoW...mandy's first whacking i would imagine...
(either that or your dating yourself...dives for cover)

467 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:23:45am

re: #450 right_wing2

I feel that this PARTICULAR African American shouldn't be president.


(An aside; I'm still puzzled by the fact that Obama is not "African-American", as that term has been used during my lifetime (i.e., a descendant of Africans brought to the Americas in the trans-Atlantic slave trade), but nobody seems to notice this change in the language.)

468 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:23:57am

re: #464 MandyManners

I know what six inc

Oh, never mind.

I once dated a woman that demanded a nine incher

I asked if we did it three times, would that count?

469 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:24:18am

re: #457 Boondock St. Bender

No disagreement on the 'racism among elements of the opposition' statement at all.

Can we also say that there are elements of racism in Obama's connections (Rev. Wright) and in Justice Sotomayor (National Council of 'The Race' (La Raza)) which would (rightly) have killed any political career had they been held by a Republican (Fred Phelp's church for example)?

470 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:24:19am

re: #448 turn

I guess it's a good idea then, you can brush up and he'll always have the book even if he forgot to bring it home (which has happened numerous times with the boys - gawd I hate to have to lug them back to school to pick up something they forgot).

Yeah, I drive about 300 miles a week as it is just to get to the school. Maybe it's closer to 400. I've not checked lately. I spend my life in the car.

471 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:24:34am

re: #459 MandyManners

When you consider all the amazing advancements of the middle of the last century...All were done with the Slide rule!
The XR-71...Atomic bomb...
I have one ...somewhere!

472 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:24:37am

re: #456 MandyManners

How did you know?

Just a lucky guess.

473 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:25:04am

re: #466 Boondock St. Bender

screwed that up...
careful you may be dating yourself...

474 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:25:27am

re: #439 reloadingisnotahobby

There was sign in D.C. ..said "Doesn't matter what my sign says
You will call me a racist anyway"!
Exactly!!!

That was clever. I think Locker has a problem with the idea that racism isn't an overriding motive with the tea party protesters.

475 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:25:35am

re: #463 FrogMarch

Amazon is da bomb. My guy uses it all the time to buy and sell books - including text books.

Until Danny got me going earlier, I never even thought about using Amazon.

Another reason I love LGF.

476 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:26:04am

re: #462 Fluffy Bunny

Free Med advice!!
Cool!
Why does it when I do this...

477 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:26:31am

re: #474 turn

That was clever. I think Locker has a problem with the idea that racism isn't an overriding motive with the tea party protesters.

Lockers not the only one!

478 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:26:51am

re: #475 MandyManners

Until Danny got me going earlier, I never even thought about using Amazon.

I seem to have that effect on lots of women.

479 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:27:01am

Gotta' get back to the laundry. I've done two loads already today. bbiab

480 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:27:36am

re: #446 NJDhockeyfan

wow, you don't see that every day. Show Dianna that link when she shows up, she'll get a kick out of it.

481 Fluffy Bunny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:28:39am

re: #476 reloadingisnotahobby

If you don't play with it, it won't do that.

482 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:29:04am

re: #469 right_wing2

Absolutely,racism is alive and well on the left as well.a more fashionable racism which plays well with the intellectual set on the left.One day people may wake up and realize racism is racism..but as long as they can gain from it i doubt it.

483 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:30:58am

re: #482 Boondock St. Bender

One day people may wake up and realize racism is racism.

And, speaking of language, this is why I bridle at the term "reverse racism". There is no "reverse"; one who believes in concepts of racial superiority/inferiority is a "racist", full stop, no matter what color he or she is.

484 acwgusa  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:31:00am

re: #81 Cannadian Club Akbar

Spencer responds to the accusation by Charles Johnson with a searing salvo of cheap shots and name calling. Is that any way to act for an “objective scholar?” He calls him “libelblogger,” “lying scoundrel” and calls those who are member’s of LGF “cult members.”

Fuck you.

I'm happy being a member of the cult of Charles. I can chant in rhythm.

485 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:31:25am

re: #475 MandyManners

Until Danny got me going earlier, I never even thought about using Amazon.

Another reason I love LGF.

I didn't think of it either until I noticed you and Danny talking about it.
Hopefully Amazon will still be around when the Kid is in college.
College text books are really expensive.

486 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:33:56am

re: #470 MandyManners

Yeah, I drive about 300 miles a week as it is just to get to the school. Maybe it's closer to 400. I've not checked lately. I spend my life in the car.

It's a relief when they finally get their license, plus they make good designated drivers too :.)

487 Danny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:34:21am

Off to work. BBL.

488 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:35:15am

Opposition to Health Care Reform Reaches New High at 55%

One week after President Obama’s speech to Congress, opposition to his health care reform plan has reached a new high of 55%. The latest Rasmussen Reports daily tracking poll shows that just 42% now support the plan, matching the low first reached in August.

What time is BHO going to be on TV today?

489 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:36:04am

re: #477 sattv4u2

Lockers not the only one!

u2?

490 acwgusa  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:36:26am

Uh-oh. Our tech guys just showed up at my desk with dual monitors and a wireless headset. This is not good news. Job description change in 3...2...1...

491 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:36:56am

re: #489 turn

u2?

not a chance

492 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:37:13am

re: #392 Gray Skies

Many health professionals have given up trying to deal with insurance companies and Medicare/Medicaid rules altogether. Some will only deal with certain private insurance companies because they're easier to work with than others.

I can definitely see more doctors leaving practice or opting to go cash only rather than be forced to accept less money for their services.

And if doctors indeed leave the practice, who will cover the millions more who are going to be coming into coverage under any of the plans floated.

Supply and demand are at play here, and the plans proffered by Democrats don't seem to recognize that basic concept.

493 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:37:22am

re: #489 turn

re: #491 sattv4u2

my nic's in blue, btw!

:)

494 acwgusa  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:38:54am

re: #492 lawhawk

Many health professionals have given up trying to deal with insurance companies and Medicare/Medicaid rules altogether. Some will only deal with certain private insurance companies because they're easier to work with than others.

I can definitely see more doctors leaving practice or opting to go cash only rather than be forced to accept less money for their services.

And if doctors indeed leave the practice, who will cover the millions more who are going to be coming into coverage under any of the plans floated.

Supply and demand are at play here, and the plans proffered by Democrats don't seem to recognize that basic concept.

It's actually worse than what people think. Medicare and Medicare combined only reimburse 40 cents on the dollar.

495 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:40:11am

re: #492 lawhawk

Many health professionals have given up trying to deal with insurance companies and Medicare/Medicaid rules altogether. Some will only deal with certain private insurance companies because they're easier to work with than others.
I can definitely see more doctors leaving practice or opting to go cash only rather than be forced to accept less money for their services.

And if doctors indeed leave the practice, who will cover the millions more who are going to be coming into coverage under any of the plans floated.

Supply and demand are at play here, and the plans proffered by Democrats don't seem to recognize that basic concept.

Which brings us to yet another LIE (yes,, I said it) Obama stated during his joint congress address

He stated that he didn't want beuracrats not ins company personel getting in between you and your doctor

The ONLY way for that to happen is if you dealt with your doctor direct IN CASH !
feh

496 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:40:32am

re: #488 NJDhockeyfan

Opposition to Health Care Reform Reaches New High at 55%

What time is BHO going to be on TV today?

Obama will be on the Letterman "I hates-es Bush" show this week and 5 Sunday shows.

497 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:40:55am

[Link: www.usgs.gov...]
No wonder the Saudis are funding the liberal left
enviro wackos!!!

498 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:41:40am

re: #496 FrogMarch

letterman is still on t.v.???
wow hadn't noticed

499 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:41:43am

re: #490 acwgusa

Expecting the same thing here, thanks to a visit from 'efficiency experts.'

500 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:41:58am

re: #490 acwgusa

Uh-oh. Our tech guys just showed up at my desk with dual monitors and a wireless headset. This is not good news. Job description change in 3...2...1...

This sounds like a scene from Terry Gilliam's Brazil.

Are these guys from Central Services?

501 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:43:29am

re: #492 lawhawk

Many health professionals have given up trying to deal with insurance companies and Medicare/Medicaid rules altogether. Some will only deal with certain private insurance companies because they're easier to work with than others.

I can definitely see more doctors leaving practice or opting to go cash only rather than be forced to accept less money for their services.

And if doctors indeed leave the practice, who will cover the millions more who are going to be coming into coverage under any of the plans floated.

Supply and demand are at play here, and the plans proffered by Democrats don't seem to recognize that basic concept.

Supply and demand are evil capitalist plots. Just like gravity.

502 acwgusa  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:43:41am

re: #500 Occasional Reader

This sounds like a scene from Terry Gilliam's Brazil.

Are these guys from Central Services?

re: #499 right_wing2

Expecting the same thing here, thanks to a visit from 'efficiency experts.'

All I can say is, I'm glad its not a pink slip!

503 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:43:53am

re: #495 sattv4u2

Which brings us to yet another LIE (yes,, I said it) Obama stated during his joint congress address

He stated that he didn't want beuracrats not ins company personel getting in between you and your doctor

The ONLY way for that to happen is if you dealt with your doctor direct IN CASH !
feh

I don't know if I'd call that a "lie", so much as a laugh-out-loud hi-larious line.

Sure, we want less bureaucracy involved... so we're turning this over to a trillion-dollar Federalized system! Also, I'm really cold at the moment, so I think I'll take an ice bath.

504 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:44:10am

Someone just sent me a picture in an e-mail that I simply have to post. Can a tech savvy Lizard let me know how I can get this to you guys?

505 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:46:09am

How come it's racist to criticize Obama but not to criticize (and ridicule, and joke about) Steele?

506 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:46:10am

re: #501 FrogMarch

Supply and demand are evil capitalist plots. Just like gravity.

This goes to show the following paradox (both quotes from memory):

"The basic facts of life are conservative."

-Margaret Thatcher

"The natural tendency of any democracy is for the political center to shift to the left."

-Jonah Goldberg

Both statements are true, IMHO. Weird.

507 truth stick  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:46:46am

re: #66 Fenway_Nation

Here we go...the White Sox, Tigers and Twins are currently within 5 games of each other and play each other twice each before the end of the season.

The next closest team to Boston in the Wild Card is Texas, but they've been slipping. The closest team after that in the WC chase is actually Seattle at 12 games out. If the Twins or White Sox want to make the postseason, it will have to be as the AL Central pennant winner, since they're even further behind the Mariners in the Wild Card standings.

My M's will be much further back that the 12 we currently are, in no time. It has been a long and frustrating summer with the M's. We all gave up hope when we let Washburn go to the Tigers, but then somehow we continued to hang in the Wild Card race for a little while longer.

508 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:47:27am

re: #505 Mad Al-Jaffee

How come it's racist to criticize Obama but not to criticize (and ridicule, and joke about) Steele?

Because Steele is a Republican, and therefore not "really" black, silly.

509 badger1970  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:47:49am

Walking the dogs last night or as Yakoff would say "...the dogs walk you." *har*, realized that politics is so ingrained and at the same time an immoral profession that it's impossible to crawl away from the sludge.

Racism is racism. Supporting or opposing someone just due to the color of skin is racism. Promoting or firing someone because of their sex is sexism. Reverse racism is a PC term to use when the majority in aggrieved.

Take yesterday for example, the kids on the school bus (kudos for the kids who broke up the fight). Reverse the races and Sharpton and Jackson would be screaming hell to high heaven about how racist "whitey" is. True or not true? Is it my fault or the fault of the media that I feel this way? This was answered last week.

510 Fluffy Bunny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:48:19am

Good morning Turn...I was unable to answer your question regarding Tahoe due to a squirrelly computer. Our cabin was in South Lake Tahoe on Pasadena Avenue. I wish I had known you lived nearby, we would have invited you and Mrs. Turn to join us for dinner.

We plan on renting it again during the winter so that we can enjoy the skiing, come join us!

511 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:48:52am

re: #509 badger1970

true

512 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:49:29am

Best picture of the year: Even Dogs don't like Dinner Jacket

513 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:50:20am

re: #512 Creeping Eruption

Dogs are smart.

514 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:50:28am

re: #502 acwgusa


Very true.

515 lurking faith  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:50:38am

re: #501 FrogMarch

Supply and demand are evil capitalist plots. Just like gravity.

[Link: www.gocomics.com...]

516 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:50:45am

BTW - a confidential source has told me to expect another ACORN tape today. I give his information high credence based on accuracy of information the source relayed to me yesterday and confirmed by events.

517 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:50:57am

re: #508 Occasional Reader

Or worse seen by the left as a traitor to his race.
(and as we have seen here,and the stalker site the wrath heaped on percieved traitors,is usually pretty harsh to say the least.)

518 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:51:26am

re: #508 Occasional Reader

Steele's really white, we just painted him so it looks like we're not racist.

519 avanti  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:52:11am

Fox is really spinning the black/white school bus fight this morning. One talking head said "all" the kids cheered (a lie, some tried to help) and she said every student on the bus should be suspended. I guess she intended everyone, black or white, cheering or trying to stop it should be punished. You get the impression from Fox that it was one white kid on a bus full of a black savages, not a mixed race group. BTW, not excusing anyone, but to spin this thing as a major racial incident is just pandering to bigots.

520 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:52:32am

re: #506 Occasional Reader

Both statements are true, IMHO. Weird.

I tend to agree.

521 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:52:36am

re: #516 lawhawk

BTW - a confidential source has told me to expect another ACORN tape today. I give his information high credence based on accuracy of information the source relayed to me yesterday and confirmed by events.


Is it the San Bernadino tape?

522 badger1970  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:53:12am

re: #494 acwgusa

Do the health professionals charge more for other services to make up for the loss? I was on all three sides of the coin, I was insured than had to pay 100% out of pocket and now with my daughter's disability finally got federal care for her. I do feel guilty when she has to go to her primary care physician or her specialist knowing that they're not being reimbursed fully (but again if Scott and White wouldn't have denied her then I wouldn't have been so desperate to get her covered).

523 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:53:29am

re: #521 Cannadian Club Akbar

A new video to follow the San Bernardino tapes.

524 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:54:08am

re: #510 Fluffy Bunny

Good morning Turn...I was unable to answer your question regarding Tahoe due to a squirrelly computer. Our cabin was in South Lake Tahoe on Pasadena Avenue. I wish I had known you lived nearby, we would have invited you and Mrs. Turn to join us for dinner.

We plan on renting it again during the winter so that we can enjoy the skiing, come join us!

Why thanks FB! It's been too many years since turn was on skis. ha A good friend of mine lives about a half mile from where you stayed. I'm about 90 miles away. Stay in touch, I might take you up on that (I hate chaining up to get there).

525 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:54:31am

Uncertified results out of Afghanistan: Karzai wins +50% of vote.

Morning Lizards.

526 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:54:31am

re: #506 Occasional Reader

The Goldberg quote is particularly relevant when it comes to - of all things - the US Supreme Court, where lifetime membership appears to allow members to become more liberal as time progresses.

As you say, most curious.

527 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:54:48am

re: #489 turn

You've got mail!

528 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:55:18am

Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe Dept.:

I met some friends of a friend for dinner last night; one was described to me as a Syrian expat. I was dreading some sort of diabtribe about American imperialism in Iraq, etc. Instead, the guy was resolutely anti-Assad, resolutely against the position that there's anything natural or normal about the Arab world being ruled by monarchs and strongmen, and thought mistakes had been made in the Iraq invasion (of course) but that on the whole, it was a necessary evil to get rid of a brutal thug. Nice to see.

529 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:55:30am

re: #519 avanti

wait a minute ...I'm sitting on a bus when a bunch of jack-asses start to throw down...and i should get suspended...WHY???

530 filetandrelease  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:55:34am

Jimmy Carter, yesterday

"The president is not only the head of government, he is the head of state. And no matter who he is or how much we disagree with his policies, the president should be treated with respect."

And before

1. Ex-president Carter slams Bush on market crisis %P% Reuters
Oct 10, 2008 ... BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Former President Jimmy Carter said on Friday the atrocious economic policies of the Bush administration had caused the ...
www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE4993TS20081010 - Cached - Similar
2. Jimmy Carter Slams Bush Administration %P% CommonDreams.org
May 19, 2007 ... Jimmy Carter Slams Bush Administration. Former president cites international relations, environment, faith-based initiatives ...
www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/19/1305 - Cached - Similar
3. Jimmy Carter slams Bush administration %P% News for Dallas, Texas ...
May 19, 2007 ... Jimmy Carter slams Bush administration. British leader Tony Blair fares no better as former president lashes out ...
www.dallasnews.com/.../051907dnnatcarterbush.91ad00.html - Cached - Similar
4. Jimmy Carter Slams Bush On Human Rights - CBS News
Oct 11, 2007 ... Says US Has Tortured Prisoners, Ignoring Geneva Convention.
www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/11/.../main3356286.shtml - Cached - Similar
5. Ikhwanweb :: The Muslim Brotherhood Official English Website
Jimmy Carter Slams Bush On Human Rights. Says U.S. Has Tortured Prisoners, Ignoring Geneva Convention. The U.S. tortures prisoners in violation of ...
www.ikhwanweeb.com/article.php?id=14387 - Cached - Similar
6. Carter slams Bush on world relations - USATODAY.com
Former President Carter says President Bush's administration is the worst in history in international relations, taking aim at the White House's policy of ...
www.usatoday.com/news/.../2007-05-19-carter-bush_N.htm - Cached - Similar
7. Jimmy Carter slams Bush on nuclear proliferation
Jimmy Carter slams Bush on nuclear proliferation. Agencies Posted online: Thursday, August 30, 2007 at 0812 hours IST Washington, August 30: Former US ...
www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=91536 - Cached - Similar
8. JIMMY CARTER
Jimmy Carter Slams Bush Administration %P% CommonDreams.orgJimmy Carter Slams Bush Administration Former president cites international relations. ...
kaholics.com/vilhelmina_darin/header.php?...carter... -

531 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:55:34am

re: #519 avanti

Fox is really spinning the black/white school bus fight this morning. One talking head said "all" the kids cheered (a lie, some tried to help) and she said every student on the bus should be suspended. I guess she intended everyone, black or white, cheering or trying to stop it should be punished. You get the impression from Fox that it was one white kid on a bus full of a black savages, not a mixed race group. BTW, not excusing anyone, but to spin this thing as a major racial incident is just pandering to bigots.

Quite Concur. There are racial issues there that need addressing, those issues are those of the individuals who were fighting. And I agree that a blanket suspension would be unjust. The incident needs to be investigated, and then the malfactors need to be punished.

532 cliffster  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:55:35am

re: #519 avanti

It was a bus full of savages, black or otherwise. And, I saw the segment - none of them were implying the "black", only the "savages". I don't know how you are seeing black/white in their coverage of that story.

533 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:55:53am
534 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:56:14am

re: #523 lawhawk

A new video to follow the San Bernardino tapes.

Last night Andrew Breitbart said it is from a south California location and crime ridden.

535 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:56:33am

ot -- Anyone like to hike?
I got the fever. I must climb a 14er before winter hits.

I've never climbed the to the highest point in Colorado. I think Friday or Monday I will take a much needed day off and tackle it.

536 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:56:35am

re: #505 Mad Al-Jaffee

re: #508 Occasional Reader

Because Steele is a Republican, and therefore not "really" black, silly.

Same with Condi, Judge Thomas, J.C. Watts, Herman Cain, etc etc

537 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:56:36am

re: #485 FrogMarch

I didn't think of it either until I noticed you and Danny talking about it.
Hopefully Amazon will still be around when the Kid is in college.
College text books are really expensive.

I was lucky in college to be able to buy books from whichever courses I wanted but wasn't taking. I like to think reading them kept me out of trouble.

538 filetandrelease  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:56:39am

re: #516 lawhawk

BTW - a confidential source has told me to expect another ACORN tape today. I give his information high credence based on accuracy of information the source relayed to me yesterday and confirmed by events.

Beck seems to on this one, for what ever that is worth.

539 acwgusa  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:57:11am

re: #522 badger1970

Do the health professionals charge more for other services to make up for the loss? I was on all three sides of the coin, I was insured than had to pay 100% out of pocket and now with my daughter's disability finally got federal care for her. I do feel guilty when she has to go to her primary care physician or her specialist knowing that they're not being reimbursed fully (but again if Scott and White wouldn't have denied her then I wouldn't have been so desperate to get her covered).

Yes, unfortunately. Those who can pay, pay more for those who can't.

540 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:57:23am

re: #530 filetandrelease

Typical liberal..Those rules are for you nobodies not ME.

541 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:57:42am

re: #519 avanti

Fox News aside, try honestly and hard to imagine the reaction if the situation was reversed. Can you see it in your head? I can hear the bullhorns now, if I listen real hard.

542 filetandrelease  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:58:04am

re: #535 FrogMarch
Love to, and would love to belong in that club, but here in FL Mt Dora is our highest peak at about 150 feet.

543 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:58:32am

re: #486 turn

It's a relief when they finally get their license, plus they make good designated drivers too :.)

Nooo. That'll mean he's growing up.

I'll buy the car and he'll pay for the fuel, maintenance and his portion of the insurance tab in an effort to help him keep his speed down and stupidity in check.

544 acwgusa  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:58:37am

re: #528 Occasional Reader

Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe Dept.:

blockquote>

Forget Intelligent life in the universe, I'd like to see evidence of intelligent life here on Earth!

/

545 cliffster  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:59:16am

Perhaps the kids should have a few beers with Obama and a couple of cops, and have a learning moment.
/

546 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:59:41am

re: #543 MandyManners

Nooo. That'll mean he's growing up.

I'll buy the car and he'll pay for the fuel, maintenance and his portion of the insurance tab in an effort to help him keep his speed down and stupidity in check.

Kinda like you keep your speed down?
// waiting for it..

547 filetandrelease  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:59:47am

re: #540 Boondock St. Bender

He is becoming senile.

548 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:59:50am

re: #519 avanti

Fox is really spinning the black/white school bus fight this morning. One talking head said "all" the kids cheered (a lie, some tried to help) and she said every student on the bus should be suspended. I guess she intended everyone, black or white, cheering or trying to stop it should be punished. You get the impression from Fox that it was one white kid on a bus full of a black savages, not a mixed race group. BTW, not excusing anyone, but to spin this thing as a major racial incident is just pandering to bigots.


The majority of the kids were black. The majority did NOT cheer, but those closest did. Most of the kids nearer the front and back weren't even aware of what was happening until the second time the kid was punched. One black girl near the front covered her mouth with a look of horror on her face

NOBODY (not even the driver) did ANYTHING to stop it

549 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 7:59:57am

re: #541 Spenser (with an S)

Fox News aside, try honestly and hard to imagine the reaction if the situation was reversed. Can you see it in your head? I can hear the bullhorns now, if I listen real hard.

That still doesn't make it right. But you are correct: If it had been white kids beating up a black kid, they'd all be charged with a hate crime.

550 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:00:18am

re: #516 lawhawk

BTW - a confidential source has told me to expect another ACORN tape today. I give his information high credence based on accuracy of information the source relayed to me yesterday and confirmed by events.

Is that the one from San Bernidino?

551 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:00:29am

re: #547 filetandrelease

He is becoming senile an asshole.

fixed

552 badger1970  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:00:29am

re: #529 Boondock St. Bender

In school districts, that's the way it is.

553 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:01:19am

re: #523 lawhawk

A new video to follow the San Bernardino tapes.

How many are out there?

554 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:01:24am

re: #516 lawhawk

Breibart was on Hewitt yesterday and said he has a few more,and will release them one at a timne (one last night, one more tonight, another tbd)

555 filetandrelease  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:01:31am

re: #551 Dark_Falcon

fixed


LOL, yes you did.

556 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:01:32am

re: #543 MandyManners

My dad was a firm believer in the "you break it you fix it"school of auto ownership.The only thing i won't do on my car is brakes.

557 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:01:50am

re: #553 MandyManners

How many are out there?

Breibart indicated there are 7 in all

558 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:02:35am

re: #549 Dark_Falcon

That still doesn't make it right.

No way. I hate bullies and cowards and any racial component makes me sad and angry. The contrast in reactions is interesting, though.

559 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:02:59am

re: #519 avanti

Fox is really spinning the black/white school bus fight this morning. One talking head said "all" the kids cheered (a lie, some tried to help) and she said every student on the bus should be suspended. I guess she intended everyone, black or white, cheering or trying to stop it should be punished. You get the impression from Fox that it was one white kid on a bus full of a black savages, not a mixed race group. BTW, not excusing anyone, but to spin this thing as a major racial incident is just pandering to bigots.

That's your filter.

560 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:03:23am

re: #557 sattv4u2

They're all set ups! Fakes! Edited to make the sainted ACORN look bad!

///

561 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:03:48am

re: #552 badger1970

Ahh the "ZERO TOLERANCE "cop out...great way for administrators to avoid doing their jobs.

562 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:03:49am

re: #546 Cannadian Club Akbar

Kinda like you keep your speed down?
// waiting for it..

*sigh*

He doesn't see the spedometer.

563 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:03:57am

re: #556 Boondock St. Bender

My dad was a firm believer in the "you break it you fix it"school of auto ownership.The only thing i won't do on my car is brakes.

You know, brakes really aren't that bad. My dad figured out how to do brake pads on our fleet of Chevys a few years back, and I've been doing my own brakes ever since. Drum brakes are a royal pain in the patoot, but the disc brakes are really simple and quick.

564 badger1970  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:04:05am

re: #557 sattv4u2

*drip* *drip* *drip* Slowly I turn, step by step...The slow turning of the screw. ACORN must be pooping the proverbial bricks right now (or hiding under a rock and reemerging with a new name).

565 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:04:34am

re: #553 MandyManners

How many are out there?

Perhaps we can look forward to a boxed DVD gift set of the entire "ACORN Gone Wild!" series. It would make a great gift for Queen Elizabeth!

566 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:04:57am

re: #537 MandyManners

I was lucky in college to be able to buy books from whichever courses I wanted but wasn't taking. I like to think reading them kept me out of trouble.

I still have my Art History texts. I sold everything else.
--that was many... years... ago...

567 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:05:01am

re: #519 avanti

re: #548 sattv4u2

The majority of the kids were black. The majority did NOT cheer, but those closest did. Most of the kids nearer the front and back weren't even aware of what was happening until the second time the kid was punched. One black girl near the front covered her mouth with a look of horror on her face

NOBODY (not even the driver) did ANYTHING to stop it


AVANTI

BTW ,,,was the video even ON CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC?

568 avanti  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:05:33am

re: #541 Spenser (with an S)

Fox News aside, try honestly and hard to imagine the reaction if the situation was reversed. Can you see it in your head? I can hear the bullhorns now, if I listen real hard.

I don't see a the fight as national news, other than Fox/Drudge obsession with the racial component. The gal on Fox said everyone on the bus should be suspended, apparently because not everyone tried to stop the fight, and some even encouraged it. I assume she was not including the white kid that got the beating and perhaps not the other white boys and girls either.

569 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:05:39am

re: #512 Creeping Eruption

Best picture of the year: Even Dogs don't like Dinner Jacket

CE, show that to Hoops when he shows up. It could be Winston! ha

570 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:05:52am

re: #552 badger1970

In school districts, that's the way it is.

Yes it is. Some of them take zero tolerance to mindless extremes. In this case though, I think those who tried to stop the fight will probably face no punishment. If they do get suspended, the school district won't like the reaction that draws. This is a situation that calls for careful investigation and justice.

571 filetandrelease  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:06:52am

re: #516 lawhawk

BTW - a confidential source has told me to expect another ACORN tape today. I give his information high credence based on accuracy of information the source relayed to me yesterday and confirmed by events.


Beck is suggesting the ramifications of this are going to effect politicians across the board and higher up. This seems a strech to me, but then again, my sharp knife is on my belt, do you see any indications he is right?

572 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:06:58am

Has everyone seen the one from San Bernadino?

Listen to how she said she set it up so that she would get away with coldly killing her abusive husband, and later how she told the two recording it that a friend of hers she had sent them to ealier would keep his mouth shut because he knew she could kill him.

573 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:07:04am

re: #563 thedopefishlives

You know what it is ,once when i was younger had a brake fail(bolt sheared)
and i never felt right doing them after that.(god forbid i did something and caused someone else to get hurt)

574 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:07:05am

re: #568 avanti

I don't see a the fight as national news, other than Fox/Drudge obsession with the racial component. The gal on Fox said everyone on the bus should be suspended, apparently because not everyone tried to stop the fight, and some even encouraged it. I assume she was not including the white kid that got the beating and perhaps not the other white boys and girls either.

That is a rather large assumption, avanti, and probably unwarranted.

575 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:07:08am

re: #519 avanti

Fox is really spinning the black/white school bus fight this morning. One talking head said "all" the kids cheered (a lie, some tried to help) and she said every student on the bus should be suspended. I guess she intended everyone, black or white, cheering or trying to stop it should be punished. You get the impression from Fox that it was one white kid on a bus full of a black savages, not a mixed race group. BTW, not excusing anyone, but to spin this thing as a major racial incident is just pandering to bigots.


I can't understand how that poor sap didn't fight back, not one punch. Dang that video made me angry.

576 avanti  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:07:32am

re: #559 MandyManners

That's your filter.

Would someone explain why this is on cable news ? How many fights happen everyday in high schools ?

577 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:07:34am

re: #542 filetandrelease

Love to, and would love to belong in that club, but here in FL Mt Dora is our highest peak at about 150 feet.

150 feet! I like Florida, but it's just sooo dang flat.
I'll be hiking from 10,040 to 14,433.

578 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:07:44am

re: #541 Spenser (with an S)

Fox News aside, try honestly and hard to imagine the reaction if the situation was reversed. Can you see it in your head? I can hear the bullhorns now, if I listen real hard.


Reminds me of something I mentioned here at LGF a few weeks ago; I heard a story on NPR about a "fight" at a Virginia high school between black and white students. During the course of the piece, you find out that 1) at least one of the black students was on the football team, 2) one of the white students wound up hospitalized with a broken back, and 3) there were two white students involved, and... SIX black students.

I had to wonder; if the races were reversed on those three facts, would NPR still be calling it a "fight"? Sounds more like "racially-motivated beating" to me.

579 badger1970  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:07:52am

re: #561 Boondock St. Bender

Yes, from first hand experience, yes. Expect an assembly soon and activities to promote tolerance and diversity.

580 jcm  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:07:55am

re: #551 Dark_Falcon


re: #547 filetandrelease

He is becoming senile an asshole.

fixed

That's an insult to assholes, they do after all serve a purpose.

581 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:08:12am

re: #525 midwestgak

Uncertified results out of Afghanistan: Karzai wins +50% of vote.

Morning Lizards.

Morning {gal}

582 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:08:24am

re: #556 Boondock St. Bender

My dad was a firm believer in the "you break it you fix it"school of auto ownership.The only thing i won't do on my car is brakes.

I'm a firm believer in letting the professionals do their jobs--that's what extended warranties are for.

583 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:08:58am

Hey is real ok? I'm worried about him. I'll shoot him an email ...

584 cliffster  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:09:07am

re: #564 badger1970

*drip* *drip* *drip* Slowly I turn, step by step...The slow turning of the screw. ACORN must be pooping the proverbial bricks right now (or hiding under a rock and reemerging with a new name).

No actually, they are watching helplessly while Montresor bricks them in.

585 Fluffy Bunny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:09:16am

What is going on with all this "race" nonsense? It saddens me to see "racism" rearing its ugly, divisive, head again. I thought this country had evolved, seems I was wrong.

What is it going to take for people to wake-up and realize that this country needs unity, now more than ever?

586 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:09:16am

re: #557 sattv4u2

Breibart indicated there are 7 in all

How many have been released so far? (I've been trying to keep up but I figure I've missed one or two.)

587 filetandrelease  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:09:23am

re: #572 MandyManners

Beck played it yesterday.

588 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:09:31am

re: #568 avanti

I don't see a the fight as national news,

I agree, but in this day and age, these fights are. Remember the "Jena 6" and that stupidity? That was not Fox leading that btw.

re: #568 avanti

perhaps not the other white boys and girls either.

You are just making stuff up, now.

589 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:09:43am

re: #582 MandyManners


I'm lucky. My brother in law is a mechanic. We can get work done for 'dealer-cost parts' plus $100.

590 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:09:45am

re: #582 MandyManners

lol very good :-)

591 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:09:45am

re: #527 sattv4u2

You've got mail!

responded, that's why I'm frigging way upthread.

592 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:09:56am

re: #566 FrogMarch

I still have my Art History texts. I sold everything else.
--that was many... years... ago...

Wished I'd kept my Riverside Shakespeare

593 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:10:24am

re: #565 Occasional Reader

Perhaps we can look forward to a boxed DVD gift set of the entire "ACORN Gone Wild!" series. It would make a great gift for Queen Elizabeth!

The perfect Christmas gift.

594 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:10:33am

re: #558 Spenser (with an S)

No way. I hate bullies and cowards and any racial component makes me sad and angry. The contrast in reactions is interesting, though.

If and when I have a son, one of my dreams for him would be to become the school anti-bully. Start him in a martial art from an early age, teach him to stick up for the weak and the bullied.

(Yes, it's something I think about for a son, not a daughter... so sue me...)

595 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:10:35am

re: #581 turn

Morning {gal}

{turn}. My Bears are in trouble. sob.

596 cliffster  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:10:40am

re: #576 avanti

Would someone explain why this is on cable news ? How many fights happen everyday in high schools ?

I will agree that, although it was a pretty bad scene and would probably have made a few news segments especially locally, the intense coverage seems a bit strange. And possible fanning the flames.

597 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:10:40am

re: #573 Boondock St. Bender

You know what it is ,once when i was younger had a brake fail(bolt sheared)
and i never felt right doing them after that.(god forbid i did something and caused someone else to get hurt)

I got into the rear brakes when I lost them on my Chevy trying to avoid hitting a puppy. (Yes, I missed the puppy, even with the brake failure.) I rebuilt the entire brakes - new drums and pads - and even re-sealed the rear axles while I was at it.

...Turns out the cause of the brake failure was a blown brake line, which required me to take it in to the dealer. At least I learned a lot about rebuilding the rear end of a truck.

598 njdhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:10:44am

re: #572 MandyManners

Has everyone seen the one from San Bernadino?


[Video]Listen to how she said she set it up so that she would get away with coldly killing her abusive husband, and later how she told the two recording it that a friend of hers she had sent them to ealier would keep his mouth shut because he knew she could kill him.

That's rather disturbing video.

You know how pathetic the MSM is by ignoring this story when John Stewart makes fun of them.

Jon Stewart to state-run media: "You mean to tell me that two kids from the cast of High School Musical III broke this story with a video camera and their grandmother's chinchilla coat and you've got nothing?"

599 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:10:50am

re: #592 Leonidas Hoplite

Wished I'd kept my Riverside Shakespeare

I kept my Norton Anthologies of English and American lit.

600 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:10:52am

re: #566 FrogMarch

I still have my Art History texts. I sold everything else.
--that was many... years... ago...

I kept them all.

601 badger1970  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:11:16am

re: #575 turn

He had the instinct of a punching bag, maybe thinking the beating would stop sooner?

602 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:11:42am

re: #571 filetandrelease

Nope. Name dropping in the San Bernardino tape was incidental and goes to the monumental stupidity of Kaelke. Unless they're going to point out specifically that politicians were giving monies to ACORN and it was going to political purposes instead of homeowner assistance, then it isn't as big a scoop.

603 filetandrelease  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:11:44am

re: #577 FrogMarch
I have hiked quite a bit of the Apalachian trail. Very nice. But would love to hike/climb one of those high peaks out west. Skied plently of them.

604 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:12:06am

re: #589 right_wing2

Drawback is the 120 mile drive up with the car, back so he can work on it during the week, then back up the following week to get it.

605 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:12:17am

re: #586 MandyManners

How many have been released so far? (I've been trying to keep up but I figure I've missed one or two.)

Four - Brooklyn NY, Washington DC, Baltimore, and San Bernardino CA.

606 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:12:51am

re: #575 turn

I can't understand how that poor sap didn't fight back, not one punch. Dang that video made me angry.

If I ever have kids (probably never will) they're learning Krav Maga as soon as they're old enough to train.

607 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:12:55am

Watching "The Shawshank Redemption" on Netflix Instant right now, because a friend reminded me it takes place not to far from where I'm moving to in two weeks.

608 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:13:07am

re: #585 Fluffy Bunny

What is going on with all this "race" nonsense? It saddens me to see "racism" rearing its ugly, divisive, head again. I thought this country had evolved, seems I was wrong.

What is it going to take for people to wake-up and realize that this country needs unity, now more than ever?

Unity will not happen, near or mid term. The political divisions are far too great, and the factions don't even always agree one what words like "justice" mean. Get used to the Culture War; It won't be ending anytime soon.

609 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:13:08am

re: #576 avanti

Would someone explain why this is on cable news ? How many fights happen everyday in high schools ?

Are you really saying that violence should be ignored just because it happens on a school bus? THOSE KIDS ARE IN THE CUSTODY OF THE STATE AND THEY ARE NOT BEING PROTECTED.

610 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:13:11am

re: #585 Fluffy Bunny

What is going on with all this "race" nonsense? It saddens me to see "racism" rearing its ugly, divisive, head again. I thought this country had evolved, seems I was wrong.

I think that I would almost excuse a large portion of those who voted for Obama on this hope alone. That we were going to be able to not have race be such a focus from now on.

They were wrong.

611 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:13:34am

re: #586 MandyManners

How many have been released so far? (I've been trying to keep up but I figure I've missed one or two.)

3 I beleive

612 filetandrelease  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:13:38am

re: #576 avanti

Would someone explain why this is on cable news ? How many fights happen everyday in high schools ?

It was filmed.

613 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:13:45am

re: #597 thedopefishlives

It's amazing how much you can fix with a good manual at your side...then once you do it...the knowledge is yours forever.There is something wonderful in wrenching your own ride.

614 UFO TOFU  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:13:46am

re: #572 MandyManners

Being San Bernardino, that is just too believable.

615 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:13:58am

re: #600 MandyManners

I kept them all.

The cool thing about math - it never goes out of style.
They update it anyway by switching a few words around and then hit students up for $150 bucks for a new "version".

616 badger1970  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:14:02am

re: #576 avanti

Would someone explain why this is on cable news ? How many fights happen everyday in high schools ?

It wasn't too long ago that policemen weren't required to be at schools keeping the peace either.

617 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:14:03am

UCNLE!

618 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:14:48am

re: #569 turn

CE, show that to Hoops when he shows up. It could be Winston! ha

If so, Winston has impeccable taste.

619 sattv4u2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:14:54am

re: #576 avanti

Would someone explain why this is on cable news ? How many fights happen everyday in high schools ?


So because ALL aren't shown, NON should be shown ?

620 filetandrelease  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:15:08am

re: #602 lawhawk
My take too, Beck = hype. Too bad, in his early career he wasn't.

621 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:15:12am

Even using my new half-caf/caf blend, I'm wired to the gills and found myself grinding my molars. Gonna' take a breather.

622 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:15:23am

re: #594 Occasional Reader

re: #558 Spenser (with an S)

No way. I hate bullies and cowards and any racial component makes me sad and angry. The contrast in reactions is interesting, though.

If and when I have a son, one of my dreams for him would be to become the school anti-bully. Start him in a martial art from an early age, teach him to stick up for the weak and the bullied.

(Yes, it's something I think about for a son, not a daughter... so sue me...)

I've told my three sons that if they get in a fight while protecting someone smaller or being ganged up on, there will be no punishment at home and I would raise a huge ruckus at school if there was there, too.

623 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:15:24am

re: #609 MandyManners

Are you really saying that violence should be ignored just because it happens on a school bus? THOSE KIDS ARE IN THE CUSTODY OF THE STATE AND THEY ARE NOT BEING PROTECTED.

That seems to be a pretty common attitude, and it has been for a while. Being the nerdy kid in school, I have a rather, erm, unique perspective on that.

624 avanti  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:15:53am

re: #596 cliffster

I will agree that, although it was a pretty bad scene and would probably have made a few news segments especially locally, the intense coverage seems a bit strange. And possible fanning the flames.

That was my main point, Fox has covered it several times in the last two days, and the coverage on Fox and Drudge seems suspect to me.

625 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:16:12am

re: #609 MandyManners

I don't think a high school fight (or beatdown)should be nationwide news.

626 gregb  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:16:29am

Reading the news this morning.

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

My first knee-jerk reaction? So *that's* why they renewed the Patriot act. :-)

627 cliffster  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:16:30am

re: #607 Cato the Elder

Watching "The Shawshank Redemption" on Netflix Instant right now, because a friend reminded me it takes place not to far from where I'm moving to in two weeks.

You're going to prison in two weeks? That sucks man

628 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:16:32am

The funny thing about the Acorn tapes is the guy's pimp costume looks like it was put together for a Halloween party.

629 Digital Display  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:17:34am

re: #583 turn

Hey is real ok? I'm worried about him. I'll shoot him an email ...


I talked to him a few days ago.. His new meds are making him very sleepy.

630 cliffster  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:17:45am

re: #619 sattv4u2

So because ALL aren't shown, NON should be shown ?

Well this one has been shown, and then shown again, and then shown again...

631 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:17:57am

re: #607 Cato the Elder

Watching "The Shawshank Redemption" on Netflix Instant right now, because a friend reminded me it takes place not to far from where I'm moving to in two weeks.

I found the perfect poster for your new walls. :D

632 tradewind  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:18:15am

Oh, we are sooo screwed.
When Jay Rockefeller warns that Obamacare could impose a ' big, big tax'...?
Words fail.
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

633 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:18:29am

re: #595 midwestgak

{turn}. My Bears are in trouble. sob.

Now when your beers are in trouble, then it's time to worry! ha Not a big sports fan, always like Green Bay through.

634 badger1970  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:18:46am

re: #628 Mad Al-Jaffee

Or coming from a Pimp 'n Ho' party. Don't ask, I was just looking for a costume for Texas Renfest when this couple walked in looking like huggy bear and his squeeze.

635 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:19:11am

re: #627 cliffster

You're going to prison in two weeks? That sucks man

Don't worry about Cato; he'll fall in quite naturally with a powerful prison gang... the "Latin Kings".

/rimshot

636 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:19:18am

re: #622 Spenser (with an S)

I've told my three sons that if they get in a fight while protecting someone smaller or being ganged up on, there will be no punishment at home and I would raise a huge ruckus at school if there was there, too.

When I was little I got suspended from school (Orthodox Jewish Day School) for telling the principal to go fuck himself after he refused to do anything about another kid calling a friend of mine (and student) a derogatory Yiddish name for a black person.

My parents gave me their credit card and told me to go shopping after lecturing me on the "proper" way of voicing my displeasure.

637 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:19:30am

re: #613 Boondock St. Bender

It's amazing how much you can fix with a good manual at your side...then once you do it...the knowledge is yours forever.There is something wonderful in wrenching your own ride.

Not quite the same as I believe cars are more complicated, but I've changed two broken light switches and re-hung one door in my house in the past couple of years.

638 gregb  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:19:49am

re: #634 badger1970

Or coming from a Pimp 'n Ho' party. Don't ask, I was just looking for a costume for Texas Renfest when this couple walked in looking like huggy bear and his squeeze.

Or Vicars and Tarts. I guess from this morning's news, we can add...in a dumpster.

639 J.D.  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:20:17am

re: #632 tradewind

Oh, we are sooo screwed.
When Jay Rockefeller warns that Obamacare could impose a ' big, big tax'...?
Words fail.
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

Not to worry.
Jay Rockefeller will do the right thing.
Juan Williams says Rockefeller is a "moderate", so...

640 avanti  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:20:19am

re: #609 MandyManners

Are you really saying that violence should be ignored just because it happens on a school bus? THOSE KIDS ARE IN THE CUSTODY OF THE STATE AND THEY ARE NOT BEING PROTECTED.

You could fill a 24 hour news cycle about school fights in the classroom, on buses, and on school property. Why is this fight a big deal on Fox ? YouTube has dozens of fights posted by kids and fighting in school is not a new deal.

641 Fluffy Bunny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:20:22am

re: #610 Spenser (with an S)

The media is not helping matters, they are perpetuating the issue.

642 gregb  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:21:01am

re: #640 avanti

You could fill a 24 hour news cycle about school fights in the classroom, on buses, and on school property. Why is this fight a big deal on Fox ? YouTube has dozens of fights posted by kids and fighting in school is not a new deal.

We used to beat the crap out of each other in high school...it was called water polo.

643 midwestgak  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:21:38am

re: #633 turn

Now when your beers are in trouble, then it's time to worry! ha Not a big sports fan, always like Green Bay through.

That's just cruel./ Salt in open wound. Especially since I don't drink beer.

644 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:22:06am

re: #601 badger1970

He had the instinct of a punching bag, maybe thinking the beating would stop sooner?

When I was that age I would have fought back, or at least tried to get the hell away from the guy. The kid just sat there and took it! Unfreakingbelieavable.

645 njdhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:22:10am

re: #642 gregb

We used to beat the crap out of each other in high school...it was called water polo.

...and dodge ball.

646 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:22:10am

re: #632 tradewind

Oh, we are sooo screwed.
When Jay Rockefeller warns that Obamacare could impose a ' big, big tax'...?
Words fail.
[Link: blogs.abcnews.com...]

Oh noes! I'm on the same side as a Rockefeller! I got caught in a conspiracy and didn't even know!

/Glen Beck and Alex Jones

647 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:22:36am

re: #635 Occasional Reader

You mean he'll be right next door to Rodan? I shudder at the thought.
/second rimshot.

648 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:22:54am

re: #634 badger1970

Or coming from a Pimp 'n Ho' party. Don't ask, I was just looking for a costume for Texas Renfest when this couple walked in looking like huggy bear and his squeeze.

I've heard of them, never been to one. I guess it's mostly college kids who have them? They didn't when I was in school (or maybe only the frats did.)

649 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:23:23am

re: #620 filetandrelease

My take too, Beck = hype. Too bad, in his early career he wasn't.

The real issue isn't just that they gave advice on how to engage in illegal enterprises at the flip of a hat (or wave of a pimp stick), but that they're probably providing similarly bad information to homeowners around the country. They hired a bunch of people with a certain moral and ethical flexibility - and didn't bat an eye when faced with these kinds of questions. They happily went along giving all kinds of advice and taxpayers are helping fund this organization.

That is the real scandal here.

650 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:23:23am

re: #642 gregb

We used to beat the crap out of each other in high school...it was called water polo.

Ooh lah-lah... look who went to a fancy school that had a swimming pool...

:P

651 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:23:51am

re: #606 Mad Al-Jaffee

If I ever have kids (probably never will) they're learning Krav Maga as soon as they're old enough to train.

Third thing I've learned here today, IDF defense technique. Cool

652 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:23:58am
653 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:24:12am

re: #635 Occasional Reader

Don't worry about Cato; he'll fall in quite naturally with a powerful prison gang... the "Latin Kings".

/rimshot

I have some spare harmonicas I can give to him, in case he befriends a Morgan Freeman kind of prisoner.

654 MJ  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:24:22am

NYT, September 14, 2009

Ex-Mayor of Memphis Starts Bid for Congress, Invoking Race in Campaign

By ROBBIE BROWN

MEMPHIS — A Congressional race in Tennessee has become freighted with racial overtones almost a year before the election, with a prominent black politician saying the white incumbent cannot properly represent black voters.

The black candidate, former Mayor Willie W. Herenton of Memphis, has argued that Tennessee needs a black voice in its currently all-white delegation. He is running a blistering campaign against Representative Steve Cohen, a fellow Democrat with a precarious hold on the majority black district.

“To know Steve Cohen is to know that he really does not think very much of African-Americans,” Mr. Herenton said in a recent radio interview on KWAM. “He’s played the black community well.”

The primary election in August 2010 pits an unlikely officeholder — a Jew in a deeply Christian region, a middle-age white man known for fighting for blacks and women — against a prominent challenger. Already, the campaign has proved how deeply race still infuses much of politics in the South, even after the election of a black president.

The candidates are battling to represent the Ninth Congressional District, a low-income area that envelops Memphis and is more than 60 percent black. The district was redrawn and renumbered in 1973, increasing the percentage of minority voters, and for three decades it elected the state’s only black members of Congress since Reconstruction, Harold E. Ford Sr. and his son Harold E. Ford Jr.

But in 2006, Mr. Cohen defeated a divided field of black candidates. He coasted to re-election last year against a little-known black corporate lawyer.

The Herenton campaign argues that Mr. Cohen is an anomaly.

“This seat was set aside for people who look like me,” said Mr. Herenton’s campaign manager, Sidney Chism, a black county commissioner. “It wasn’t set aside for a Jew or a Christian. It was set aside so that blacks could have representation...”

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

655 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:24:31am

re: #649 lawhawk

The real issue isn't just that they gave advice on how to engage in illegal enterprises at the flip of a hat (or wave of a pimp stick), but that they're probably providing similarly bad information to homeowners around the country. They hired a bunch of people with a certain moral and ethical flexibility - and didn't bat an eye when faced with these kinds of questions. They happily went along giving all kinds of advice and taxpayers are helping fund this organization.

That is the real scandal here.

I love the phrase "Moral flexibility." Heard it for the first time in Grosse Pointe Blank, one of my favorite movies of all time.

656 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:24:44am

re: #632 tradewind

He was actually attacking Baucus' plan, which is the smaller of the plans proposed in Congress. The Baucus plan isn't HR3200. HR 3200 has already been savaged by the CBO for underestimating the costs and deficits to be rung up. Baucus' plan hasn't gotten the same scrutiny yet.

657 jamgarr  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:25:09am

re: #640 avanti

You could fill a 24 hour news cycle about school fights in the classroom, on buses, and on school property. Why is this fight a big deal on Fox ? YouTube has dozens of fights posted by kids and fighting in school is not a new deal.

Because it happened in my home town - and we're special!

658 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:25:10am

re: #650 Occasional Reader

Ooh lah-lah... look who went to a fancy school that had a swimming pool...

:P

Yeah, that would be me as well. And here's a reward for the clever mockery:

SMACK!

659 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:25:20am

re: #613 Boondock St. Bender

It's amazing how much you can fix with a good manual at your side...

Good old Manuel! Doing the jobs that Americans won't do!

/oh, you said manual... never mind

660 filetandrelease  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:25:25am

re: #644 turn

When I was that age I would have fought back, or at least tried to get the hell away from the guy. The kid just sat there and took it! Unfreakingbelieavable.


He took a really good shot to the chin early on and was most likely stunned. It almost looked like a sucker punch. After that, he WAS a punching bag and could have been really hurt.

661 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:25:33am

re: #648 Mad Al-Jaffee

by the way wanted to tell you i love your nic.
My cherished collection of mr jafee's literary works we're a primer in my career as a smart-ass.

662 gregb  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:25:36am

re: #650 Occasional Reader

Ooh lah-lah... look who went to a fancy school that had a swimming pool...

:P

You should try to teach horses to swim.

663 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:26:16am

re: #607 Cato the Elder

Watching "The Shawshank Redemption" on Netflix Instant right now, because a friend reminded me it takes place not to far from where I'm moving to in two weeks.

ding for the movie, one of my favorites.

664 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:26:40am

re: #662 gregb

The hardest part is keeping their heads up!

665 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:26:47am

re: #626 gregb

Reading the news this morning.

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

My first knee-jerk reaction? So *that's* why they renewed the Patriot act. :-)

This story is just the latest fear mongering nonsense. It's the outrage du jour.

I may post something about it later. Don't believe the hype from the Washington Times.

666 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:27:08am

re: #651 turn

Third thing I've learned here today, IDF defense technique. Cool

It's a great self-defense method and a great workout. I got in really good shape and lost a bunch of weight when I trained in it.

667 garycooper  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:27:09am

"The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd. Indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible."

-Bertrand Russell

668 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:27:36am

re: #658 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, that would be me as well. And here's a reward for the clever mockery:

SMACK!

Smack? Er, thanks, but I never touch the stuff.

/

669 tradewind  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:27:50am

re: #656 lawhawk

I'm hoping that none of this will get through in the confusion. Let TOTUS have insurance reform, which is needed... cross-policy between states, and do away with preexisting condition restrictions, and declare himself the Reformer of Health In Chief..., but leave everything else the hell alone. I'll be happy for him to take his victory lap, since that is what this is all about, at its core. Just my view.

670 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:28:15am

re: #603 filetandrelease

I have hiked quite a bit of the Apalachian trail. Very nice. But would love to hike/climb one of those high peaks out west. Skied plently of them.

I bet that is beautiful. I love the scenery and the pay-off at the top.
It's exhilarating. ... and addicting. and hard.
A few folks die every year on mountains that are class 3 and 4. Tragically a guy died on Capital peak earlier this season. The top is a precarious knife edge with nothing but rock and air under your feet.
Needless to say Capital isn't on my to-do list.
I would like to climb all of the Class 1 and 2 (with 3 sprinkled in.) No class 4s for me. My goal is to climb the easiest 14ers in each range. So far, I've hiked three. I'm a bit behind.

671 filetandrelease  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:28:24am

re: #649 lawhawk

and taxpayers are helping fund this organization.

That is the real scandal here.


Hopefully, not much longer.

672 J.D.  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:28:29am

McConnell Statement on the Baucus Draft
from the Office of Senator Mitch McConnell

Wednesday, September 16, 2009

‘Only In Washington Would Anyone Think That Makes Sense, Especially In This Economy’

WASHINGTON, D.C. - U.S. Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell made the following statement Wednesday regarding the Baucus draft:

“This partisan proposal cuts Medicare by nearly a half-trillion dollars, and puts massive new tax burdens on families and small businesses, to create yet another thousand-page, trillion-dollar government program. Only in Washington would anyone think that makes sense, especially in this economy.”


Whatta plan!

673 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:28:29am

re: #654 MJ

NYT, September 14, 2009

Ex-Mayor of Memphis Starts Bid for Congress, Invoking Race in Campaign

By ROBBIE BROWN


[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

“This seat was set aside for people who look like me,” said Mr. Herenton’s campaign manager, Sidney Chism, a black county commissioner. “It wasn’t set aside for a Jew or a Christian. It was set aside so that blacks could have representation...”

Oh, my goodness.

674 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:28:53am

re: #661 Boondock St. Bender

by the way wanted to tell you i love your nic.
My cherished collection of mr jafee's literary works we're a primer in my career as a smart-ass.

Thanks! I always loved Snappy Answers to Stupid Questions. But he should have followed them up with Ass Kickings to Snappy Answers. :)

675 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:29:20am

re: #652 MandyManners

Happy Birthday, B.B. King!


A great man and great musician. True class act.

676 turn  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:29:55am

re: #629 HoosierHoops

I talked to him a few days ago.. His new meds are making him very sleepy.

Thanks hoops, check out 512. You got Winston trained?

677 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:30:21am

re: #665 Charles

Let the seething begin!
look for talking points that the left used a couple of years ago to now be picked up by the nuts on the right fringe

678 J.D.  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:30:41am

re: #654 MJ

“This seat was set aside for people who look like me,” said Mr. Herenton’s campaign manager, Sidney Chism, a black county commissioner. “It wasn’t set aside for a Jew or a Christian. It was set aside so that blacks could have representation...”

Doesn't it warm the cockles that we have come such a long way?

679 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:31:07am

re: #674 Mad Al-Jaffee

yeah...he kinda left that part out...

680 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:31:36am

re: #673 MandyManners

I guess that means that neither my state rep nor her challenger last year can POSSIBLY represent me, since I'm white & they're not.

//

681 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:32:16am

re: #673 MandyManners

“This seat was set aside for people who look like me,” said Mr. Herenton’s campaign manager, Sidney Chism, a black county commissioner. “It wasn’t set aside for a Jew or a Christian. It was set aside so that blacks could have representation...”

Oh, my goodness.

The raw racism (and religionism, for lack of a better term) in that statement is absolutely astounding. People can actually make public statements like this and expect to be elected to office? Ridiculous.

682 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:32:28am

re: #673 MandyManners

“This seat was set aside for people who look like me,” said Mr. Herenton’s campaign manager, Sidney Chism, a black county commissioner. “It wasn’t set aside for a Jew or a Christian. It was set aside so that blacks could have representation...”

Oh, my goodness.

Oy Vey.

683 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:33:48am

re: #672 J.D.

“This partisan proposal cuts Medicare by nearly a half-trillion dollars, and puts massive new tax burdens on families and small businesses, to create yet another thousand-page, trillion-dollar government program. Only in Washington would anyone think that makes sense, especially in this economy.”

Yeah - If the Democrats could chill out with this stuff -they might actually gain some credibility back. They are so desperate to destroy our economy.

684 Fluffy Bunny  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:34:24am

Dell tech due in 20 minutes, time to shut down this roaring beast.

And it only took a gazillion hours (thats tea party math) on the phone with Dell to resolve a very simple problem.

Enjoy the day!

685 jcm  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:34:43am

re: #673 MandyManners

“This seat was set aside for people who look like me,” said Mr. Herenton’s campaign manager, Sidney Chism, a black county commissioner. “It wasn’t set aside for a Jew or a Christian. It was set aside so that blacks could have representation...”

Oh, my goodness.

Jackson and Sharpton to start protests in... 3..2..

Oh, wait!

686 filetandrelease  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:35:40am

“This seat was set aside for people who look like me,” said Mr. Herenton’s campaign manager, Sidney Chism, a WHITE county commissioner. “It wasn’t set aside for a BLACK or a HISSPANIC. It was set aside so that WHITEs could have representation...”

Wanted to see how the reversal looked.

687 avanti  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:36:06am

re: #665 Charles

This story is just the latest fear mongering nonsense. It's the outrage du jour.

I may post something about it later. Don't believe the hype from the Washington Times.

At least the Washington Times piece points out the Presidential Records Act requires the WH to keep all such records.

688 Boondock St. Bender  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:36:06am

re: #685 jcm

I don't know where to even start dismantling a statement like that...where's that manual...

689 FrogMarch  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:37:29am

re: #673 MandyManners

“This seat was set aside for people who look like me,” said Mr. Herenton’s campaign manager, Sidney Chism, a black county commissioner. “It wasn’t set aside for a Jew or a Christian. It was set aside so that blacks could have representation...”

Oh, my goodness.

Wow. Just wow.

690 MJ  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:38:52am

re: #685 jcm

Jackson and Sharpton to start protests in... 3..2..

Oh, wait!

Cohen has been subject to this kind of attack in the past:

Jewish Rep. Cohen Battles Antisemitism and Racism In Re-Election

If you thought race was an uncomfortable issue in the Democratic presidential primary, wait 'til you get a load of what's going on in the Democratic primary in the Memphis area's 9th District of Tennessee, where a shockingly worded flier paints Jewish Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) as a Jesus hater.

"Memphis Congressman Steve Cohen and the JEWS HATE Jesus," blares the flier, which Cohen himself received in the mail -- inducing gasps -- last week.

Circulated by an African-American minister from Murfreesboro Tenn., which isn't even in Cohen's district, the literature encourages other black leaders in Memphis to "see to it that one and ONLY one black Christian faces this opponent of Christ and Christianity in the 2008 election..."

More here:
[Link: blog.washingtonpost.com...]

691 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:38:56am

re: #631 Dark_Falcon

I found the perfect poster for your new walls. :D

Iz that actually she of whom I am not allowed to speak for another two weeks?

What I really like is if you click the pic - see what comes up then!

692 tradewind  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:39:33am

re: #654 MJ

That's our guy. He's only resigned and changed his mind twice.
Actually, he's one short step ahead of the Feds, and hopes to out run them by relocating to DC.
Good luck. Substantively, there'd be no difference in voting records between him and Steve Cohen, so who cares...
We sent Marion Barry to DC, so why not Willie Herenton?

693 right_wing2  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:39:46am

re: #689 FrogMarch

Just think of the uproar if that'd been said by a white candidate running against a black guy for a seat in a white-majority district.

694 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:41:19am

re: #691 Cato the Elder

Iz that actually she of whom I am not allowed to speak for another two weeks?

What I really like is if you click the pic - see what comes up then!

403 Forbidden Access.

695 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:42:15am

re: #691 Cato the Elder

Iz that actually she of whom I am not allowed to speak for another two weeks?

What I really like is if you click the pic - see what comes up then!

I believe it is indeed her.

696 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:42:16am

re: #691 Cato the Elder

Iz that actually she of whom I am not allowed to speak for another two weeks?

What I really like is if you click the pic - see what comes up then!

Never mind - something different comes up every time you cick it.

It was two hot blondes, and the caption read: Murphy's law - if you have the choice between two babes, you will always pick the wrong one.

697 avanti  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:45:25am

re: #688 Boondock St. Bender

I don't know where to even start dismantling a statement like that...where's that manual...

I can, not that I agree. The district he's running to represent is 60% black and he feels the state needs a black to represent that district. I think that decision should be up to the voters, but he can try that pitch if he likes. If not for the racial component, it would be the typical "The other guy does not understand you" comment used when a rich guy runs in a poor district, or a lib runs in a conservative one. That's the best I can do, it was a stupid statement to say out loud.

698 MJ  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 8:45:29am

re: #692 tradewind

"... Substantively, there'd be no difference in voting records between him and Steve Cohen, so who cares..."

I agree with the first part of your statement- Cohen would vote no differently than Herenton.
However, I disagree with the second part of your statement: it does matter whether a campaign is racist.

699 jamgarr  Wed, Sep 16, 2009 9:08:44am

re: #675 Mad Al-Jaffee

A great man and great musician. True class act.


"When I play, I play. When I sing, I sing."


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