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1 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:35:45am

TRADITION!

2 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:35:59am

Good morning, Charles, Lizards. It's a fine day for troll hunting as the nutjobs continue to furiously spin the results of last week's Tea Party.

3 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:36:40am

Thursday Morning Open

It's already afternoon here.

4 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:36:54am
5 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:37:12am

I'm looking to replace my Treo 680 with an iPhone. What are folks thoughts on getting sucked further into the Apple vortex?

6 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:38:08am

re: #4 BrianA

No sooner said than done, I'd imagine. FLOUNCE.

7 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:38:36am

re: #4 BrianA

At least show some imagination.

8 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:39:00am

That's it? No long dramatic post? Blah.

9 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:39:01am

re: #1 Creeping Eruption

TRADITION!

10 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:39:10am

re: #7 JamesTKirk

At least show some imagination.

I think that was. LOL.

11 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:39:20am

re: #3 JamesTKirk

Thursday Morning Open

It's already afternoon here.

PICKY! Back in my day, when we got an Open Thread, we were damn thankful!

12 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:39:30am

re: #9 Honorary Yooper

Exactly

13 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:39:55am

I hate it when I miss a flounce.

14 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:40:12am

re: #1 Creeping Eruption

TRADITION!

The Lovecraftian version:

15 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:40:13am

re: #1 Creeping Eruption

TRADITION!

As Israel tries to scratch out a pleasant, simple tune, without getting blown up.

16 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:40:17am

re: #8 Charles

That's it? No long dramatic post? Blah.

They're getting more and more boring these days.

17 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:40:53am

re: #11 SteveC

PICKY! Back in my day, when we got an Open Thread, we were damn thankful!

And had to connect uphill both ways!

18 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:40:57am

re: #8 Charles

That's it? No long dramatic post? Blah.

What's the sound of one troll flouncing?

19 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:40:58am

Post #4 deleted
That user is blocked

Already? That's gotta be some kinda record!

20 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:41:13am

re: #5 bofhell

I'm looking to replace my Treo 680 with an iPhone. What are folks thoughts on getting sucked further into the Apple vortex?

I have read that the AT&T network gets really screwy when you get around big crowds where a number of iphone users are vying for limited bandwidth. I don't have one, so I do not know if this is true. Apparently iphone users use up a lot more than other smart phones.

21 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:41:40am

Hey Brian..What's the matter you need some street cred over at LGF2?
Go take your whiny little ass over there and brag about how you really told Charles off...You guys are acting like little children..
oh..And Fuck you too pal

22 Danny  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:41:59am

re: #19 SteveC

Post #4 deleted
That user is blocked

Already? That's gotta be some kinda record!

Can hardly get much earlier without typing "First".

23 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:42:23am

re: #21 HoosierHoops

Hey Brian..What's the matter you need some street cred over at LGF2?
Go take your whiny little ass over there and brag about how you really told Charles off...You guys are acting like little children..
oh..And Fuck you too pal

Thread cred?

24 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:42:42am

re: #14 JamesTKirk

The Lovecraftian version:


That is awsome.

25 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:42:42am

re: #17 JamesTKirk

And had to connect uphill both ways!

In snow that was knee deep! Except for that one year, when the snow was so deep we had to crap into a shotgun and fire it out the chimney!

26 Kragar  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:43:06am

re: #8 Charles

That's it? No long dramatic post? Blah.

Allow me then.

"Don't you do it! Don't! You... I got nowhere else to go! I got nowhere else to g... I got nothin' else."

27 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:43:17am

re: #20 Creeping Eruption

I have read that the AT&T network gets really screwy when you get around big crowds where a number of iphone users are vying for limited bandwidth. I don't have one, so I do not know if this is true. Apparently iphone users use up a lot more than other smart phones.

Well, so much for live tweeting the NEXT Glenn Beck with real time video to demonstrate the true strength in numbers...

I was really worried more about battery life though.

28 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:43:33am

re: #21 HoosierHoops

Is lgf2 still running at their Lithuanian host?
Have the hackers there stolen all their credit card numbers yet?

29 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:43:56am

re: #24 Creeping Eruption

That is awsome.

That's just the opening number. They have the entire show.

30 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:44:20am

re: #19 SteveC

Post #4 deleted
That user is blocked

Already? That's gotta be some kinda record!

Especially for an open thread. I mean, how controversial can an open thread be?

31 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:44:20am

re: #26 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Allow me then.

"Don't you do it! Don't! You... I got nowhere else to go! I got nowhere else to g... I got nothin' else."

"You'll always have Paris."

32 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:44:27am

re: #27 bofhell

Well, so much for live tweeting the NEXT Glenn Beck with real time video to demonstrate the true strength in numbers...

I was really worried more about battery life though.

Look into it. I think that other networks will be able to carry them next year or in 2011.

33 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:45:00am

re: #29 JamesTKirk

That's just the opening number. They have the entire show.

Teeen-tacles!

34 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:45:12am

re: #20 Creeping Eruption

Apparently iphone users use up a lot more than other smart phones.

Using up more than their share of resources, eh? Hmmm.

35 Kragar  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:45:24am

re: #31 SteveC

"You'll always have Paris."

Who hasn't had Paris?

36 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:45:28am

re: #27 bofhell

Well, so much for live tweeting the NEXT Glenn Beck with real time video to demonstrate the true strength in numbers...

I was really worried more about battery life though.

I don't know how the battery life is, but you do need to bring it to a store or to Apple to get the battery replaced. I think you can get a loaner (but it probably wouldn't have your info or apps, unless they have a quick way of transferring everything), but you do lose your phone for a couple of days.

37 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:45:50am

re: #33 Creeping Eruption

38 Leonidas Hoplite  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:45:54am

re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Who hasn't had Paris?

Me. Take a number? What's it up to?

39 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:46:01am

The Flounce Czar is gravely disappointed. He was expecting so much more. Instead, he presents you with a 0.5. You don't even rate a whole number on the flounce scale. No creativity. No technical merit. No artistic merit.

40 Danny  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:46:13am

re: #5 bofhell

I'm looking to replace my Treo 680 with an iPhone. What are folks thoughts on getting sucked further into the Apple vortex?

I'm sucked in totally. It's groovy in here.

41 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:46:26am

re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Who hasn't had Paris?

I hope you wrapped that sucker.

42 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:46:48am

re: #20 Creeping Eruption

I have read that the AT&T network gets really screwy when you get around big crowds where a number of iphone users are vying for limited bandwidth. I don't have one, so I do not know if this is true. Apparently iphone users use up a lot more than other smart phones.

That's true, it does use up a lot of bandwidth. Simple answer: switch to Sprint and buy a Palm Pre. It's internet is just as fast and it'll be even faster once we roll out 4G.

/end promo for company I work for

43 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:47:02am

re: #32 Creeping Eruption

I don't think either my 680 will last that long, and I am more certain my patience with it resetting itself every few hours will not. This is above and beyond that I get no reception at home or work! Of course, it is now illegal in Virginia to use a cell phone while operating a motor vehicle, so it may all be moot.

44 Kragar  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:47:26am

re: #41 SteveC

I hope you wrapped that sucker.

Double bagger

45 Reginald Perrin  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:47:32am

I have a question:
If I bought a domain name, how would I do it so that my name isn't traceable by the stalkers at the deuce.
I don't mind them stalking me at a new blog but I am not comfortable having those psychopaths being able to find my name using a site like whois.net.

46 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:47:59am

I listened to NPR finally reporting on the ACORN story this morning. Just goes to confirm, they report the Right's failings, and they report the Left's press releases.

47 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:47:59am

re: #5 bofhell

I'm looking to replace my Treo 680 with an iPhone. What are folks thoughts on getting sucked further into the Apple vortex?

I never had a Treo, but I had a Palm device, and my daughter had a Treo.

We both now absolutely love love love our iPhones.

48 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:48:01am

The talking point going around the wingnut blogs today is that LGF is in serious decline because I'm a virulent anti-Christian. Of course, they can't actually link to anything at all that I've ever written that demonstrates this, but that isn't stopping them.

I'm not anti-Christian at all, as people with minds of their own can easily see.

Again, they're unable to separate being opposed to radical far-right religious agendas like creationism from being opposed to religion in general. Same old same old. This is how fundamentalists keep the masses in line - if you depart from the talking points even the tiniest bit, you're an apostate who deserves excommunication.

And as for "declining" -- our traffic has been rising steadily for the past two months, which must be extremely irritating for them.

49 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:48:06am

re: #36 Kosh's Shadow

I'm hoping that a new phone would last a couple years before it needs a new battery. ;-)

50 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:48:12am

Long gone ex-lizard Rayra just showed up on the Hot Air Michelle Obama/Wookie thread. You can stop in and say hi if you want.

51 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:48:20am

If there was no open thread last night, is this the Early Afternoon Drinking Thread?

52 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:48:31am

silobreaker.com is aggregating links with differing opinions on the missile news.

53 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:48:44am

re: #41 SteveC

re: #35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Who hasn't had Paris?

I hope you wrapped that sucker.

In a full NBC suit with kevlar lining.

54 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:48:59am

re: #45 Reginald Perrin

I have a question:
If I bought a domain name, how would I do it so that my name isn't traceable by the stalkers at the deuce.
I don't mind them stalking me at a new blog but I am not comfortable having those psychopaths being able to find my name using a site like whois.net.

Buy the domain at godaddy and choose their 'Domains By Proxy' option when you're checking out.

55 Danny  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:49:00am

re: #48 Charles

It was the banana video, no doubt.

56 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:49:07am

re: #40 Danny

They'll have to pry my cold dead fingers from my FatMac to get me out of the vortex...

57 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:49:27am

re: #48 Charles
RINO!

58 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:49:35am

re: #45 Reginald Perrin

I have a question:
If I bought a domain name, how would I do it so that my name isn't traceable by the stalkers at the deuce.
I don't mind them stalking me at a new blog but I am not comfortable having those psychopaths being able to find my name using a site like whois.net.

Most domain registrars have an extra cost service that hides your name, but gives the name of another company. You pay that company to hide your name, and anyone legit can contact you through them.
Note this service is usually more expensive than the entire registration at cheap registrars. Something like $10-25 on top of the $5-15 registration.

59 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:49:40am

re: #43 bofhell

I don't think either my 680 will last that long, and I am more certain my patience with it resetting itself every few hours will not. This is above and beyond that I get no reception at home or work! Of course, it is now illegal in Virginia to use a cell phone while operating a motor vehicle, so it may all be moot.

Usually those laws include an exemption if you are using a Bluetooth device, and I believe that your phone has Bluetooth. Take it in and have it fixed and get your self an earpiece while you're there.

60 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:49:44am

re: #43 bofhell

I don't think either my 680 will last that long, and I am more certain my patience with it resetting itself every few hours will not. This is above and beyond that I get no reception at home or work! Of course, it is now illegal in Virginia to use a cell phone while operating a motor vehicle, so it may all be moot.

Take it up with Dark Falcon. He/She works there. See #42.

61 Reginald Perrin  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:50:00am

re: #54 Charles

Thanks, I appreciate the help.

62 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:51:05am

Since it's breakfast is Gamey Troll omelette served? It's still early here.

63 MJ  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:51:32am

re: #50 Killgore Trout

Long gone ex-lizard Rayra just showed up on the Hot Air Michelle Obama/Wookie thread. You can stop in and say hi if you want.

Has he threatened to kill anyone yet?

64 Danny  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:51:35am

re: #43 bofhell

Of course, it is now illegal in Virginia to use a cell phone while operating a motor vehicle, so it may all be moot.

What about using bluetooth/hands-free setups? Can you do that?

65 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:51:37am

re: #43 bofhell

Of course, it is now illegal in Virginia to use a cell phone while operating a motor vehicle, so it may all be moot.

Really? Must have missed that news. I'm sure that will improve peoples' driving on the Beltway immensely...

//

66 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:51:45am

re: #47 reine.de.tout

I've been a Palm/Treo user for about a decade. Switching to Something Else is not coming easily to me.

67 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:52:24am

NOTE:

I am a Christian, a Catholic, and I have never made a secret of that fact here at LGF, and of course, my Catholicism colors my viewpoint, which I have made known here at LGF on various topics, and although people have disagreed with me, CHARLES JOHNSON has never stepped in to promote any sort of anti-Christian anything.

To whoever thinks Charles Johnson and LGF are anti-Christian - you are simply wrong wrong wrong.

68 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:52:35am

re: #46 The Sanity Inspector

I listened to NPR finally reporting on the ACORN story this morning. Just goes to confirm, they report the Right's failings, and they report the Left's press releases.

Well, they'll be doing some more reporting today, since a fifth video just got posted.

69 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:52:40am

re: #28 Kosh's Shadow

Is lgf2 still running at their Lithuanian host?
Have the hackers there stolen all their credit card numbers yet?


No...They reside on server box 494 in the bluehost domain at 66.147.242.94.
Bluehost has some serious latency issues.. It appears to be the route out Denver DataCenter core redirector core switch

70 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:52:56am

re: #64 Danny

Yes -- Bluetooth and handsfree are still permissable, although I suspect in time the safety stats will suggest to the States that they be disallowed as well.

71 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:52:56am

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

That's true, it does use up a lot of bandwidth. Simple answer: switch to Sprint and buy a Palm Pre. It's internet is just as fast and it'll be even faster once we roll out 4G.

/end promo for company I work for

Well, my experience with Palm hardware is somewhat better than my experience with Apple hardware, but still poor.
I had a Palm III that slipped out of my pocket, and the screen broke from behind when the batteries shifted. Never had anything else break a screen from a drop like that. I had to buy a "repair unit".
Over the remaining year in the warranty, I had to get a total of 3 repair units. The first one for the screen; the second one because the previous unit would completely lock up for 10 minutes every few hours; the next one was defective out of the box (wouldn't synch); and the last one worked OK except for flaky contrast until I replaced it.

Later I got a Tungsten C that was always flaky. Applications that were supposed to work fine would crash or not work at all.
But it wasn't consistent enough to get it repaired.

72 Danny  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:53:10am

re: #66 bofhell

I've been a Palm/Treo user for about a decade. Switching to Something Else is not coming easily to me.

A bud of mine switched from Palm to iPhone. He loves it. He does use Macs for work, though.

73 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:53:21am

re: #51 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'll drink to that!

74 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:53:45am

re: #60 Creeping Eruption

Take it up with Dark Falcon. He/She works there. See #42.

I live and work in Illinois, not Virginia.

75 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:53:48am

re: #67 reine.de.tout

NOTE:

I am a Christian, a Catholic, and I have never made a secret of that fact here at LGF, and of course, my Catholicism colors my viewpoint, which I have made known here at LGF on various topics, and although people have disagreed with me, CHARLES JOHNSON has never stepped in to promote any sort of anti-Christian anything.

To whoever thinks Charles Johnson and LGF are anti-Christian - you are simply wrong wrong wrong.

Same here.

76 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:53:52am

re: #49 bofhell

I'm hoping that a new phone would last a couple years before it needs a new battery. ;-)

Depends on how much you use it. The battery problem showed up around a year after the first iPhone shipped, so some users must have really drained it.

77 BignJames  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:53:57am

re: #48 Charles

And if you don't agree with me...you're going to hell!

78 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:53:58am

re: #66 bofhell

I've been a Palm/Treo user for about a decade. Switching to Something Else is not coming easily to me.

I can understand that.
I will tell you that the first week or two after I got my iPhone, I thought I had made a huge mistake.

Then I started tapping into the possibilities. And now I love it, it is everything all rolled up into one small device. Amazing.

79 badger1970  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:54:30am

re: #65 JamesTKirk

It's a fine in TX to use a cell phone while driving in a school zone. It's for the children don'tcha know.

80 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:54:36am

I've got to go to work now. Have a good day all!

81 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:54:39am

re: #59 Dark_Falcon

It does have bluetooth, and the bluetooth works very well -- it's the (unprintable) PDA that has issues.

82 avanti  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:54:54am

re: #48 Charles


And as for "declining" -- our traffic has been rising steadily for the past two months, which must be extremely irritating for them.


Looks like LGF is up to me.

83 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:55:02am

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

Well, they'll be doing some more reporting today, since a fifth video just got posted.

Oh, this just gets better and better.

84 avanti  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:55:29am

re: #82 avanti

Looks like LGF is up to me.

Link:

web traffic.

85 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:55:48am

re: #67 reine.de.tout

NOTE:

I am a Christian, a Catholic, and I have never made a secret of that fact here at LGF, and of course, my Catholicism colors my viewpoint, which I have made known here at LGF on various topics, and although people have disagreed with me, CHARLES JOHNSON has never stepped in to promote any sort of anti-Christian anything.

To whoever thinks Charles Johnson and LGF are anti-Christian - you are simply wrong wrong wrong.

Thanks, reine. On some level, I strongly suspect the people who are promoting this nonsense know that they're lying. But when it's time for a mau-mau attack, they'll use anything, no matter how dishonest.

For example:

[Link: rightwingnews.com...]

86 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:55:53am

re: #65 JamesTKirk

People drive on the Beltway? DAMN! I thought is was one big parking lot these days. Or a construction zone. Kinda hard to tell the difference.

87 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:55:55am

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

Well, they'll be doing some more reporting today, since a fifth video just got posted.

Yep. "Oh, that's just, umm, five completely unrelated isolated incidents!"

Can't wait for the sixth video.

88 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:56:09am

re: #63 MJ

Has he threatened to kill anyone yet?

Knowing Rayra, he's probably wallpapering the comments section with the "c" word.

89 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:56:31am

re: #87 JamesTKirk

Yep. "Oh, that's just, umm, five completely unrelated isolated incidents!"

Can't wait for the sixth video.


And the 7th.

90 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:56:36am

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

That's true, it does use up a lot of bandwidth. Simple answer: switch to Sprint and buy a Palm Pre. It's internet is just as fast and it'll be even faster once we roll out 4G.

/end promo for company I work for

I used an old Kyocera until it got so old that the battery could only hold a charge for about 10 min. Good phone, never caused any trouble!

91 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:56:47am

re: #85 Charles

Not clicking. I'm already feeling the urge to duck.

92 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:57:05am

re: #84 avanti

Link:

web traffic.

That's seems close to what my other stats report, but in general Alexa's a pretty unreliable indicator and shouldn't be considered definitive at all.

93 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:57:05am

re: #86 bofhell

People drive on the Beltway?

Well, in theory.

Beltway sucks, and in the previous thread we discussed all the ways that the Metro sucks. My only other option is to walk all the way through DC on foot, which has its own obvious drawbacks.

94 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:57:16am
95 Kragar  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:57:35am

re: #83 Dianna

Oh, this just gets better and better.

Isn't it though? I dont know what part was better. That the ACORN guy knew people who could help smuggle underage girls across the border or that he wanted to see how much a weekend with the girl would cost.

One classy operation they got running there.

96 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:58:10am

re: #95 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Isn't it though? I dont know what part was better. That the ACORN guy knew people who could help smuggle underage girls across the border or that he wanted to see how much a weekend with the girl would cost.

She is cute...
///

97 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:58:20am

re: #63 MJ

Has he threatened to kill anyone yet?

Not yet.

98 AuntAcid  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:58:51am

re: #51 Cannadian Club Akbar

If there was no open thread last night, is this the Early Afternoon Drinking Thread?

...and risk "posting under the influence". That'll get you jail time and a fine.

99 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:58:52am

re: #94 buzzsawmonkey

Driving while holding a cellphone is stupid; handsfree laws make sense. But the recent rumbles I have heard that it is "just as dangerous" to drive while talking on a handsfree is simply nuts. Will it next become illegal to talk to the other people in the car?

Holding a cell phone while driving is stupid. A beer? Not so much.
///

100 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:58:58am

re: #90 SteveC

I loved my Kyocera Palm phone. It actually felt like a PHONE and not some matchbook.

Of course, when I used it, it looked like I was talking into an old HP-45...

101 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:59:27am

re: #94 buzzsawmonkey

Driving while holding a cellphone is stupid; handsfree laws make sense. But the recent rumbles I have heard that it is "just as dangerous" to drive while talking on a handsfree is simply nuts. Will it next become illegal to talk to the other people in the car?

I wonder, sometimes. Really, until you've watched the 2 X 7 horror movie as some person is so busy talking to someone in the back seat that he hasn't noted that the traffic has come to a complete stop...

102 reine.de.tout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:59:39am

re: #85 Charles

Thanks, reine. On some level, I strongly suspect the people who are promoting this nonsense know that they're lying. But when it's time for a mau-mau attack, they'll use anything, no matter how dishonest.

For example:

[Link: rightwingnews.com...]

Oh, fer cryin' out loud:

. . . Eventually, the bloggers Charles was picking fights with started firing back at him and I started to notice that Charles had a huge beef with Christians. At one point, I looked over at LGF and noticed that literally half the posts on his front page were edged pieces about creationism
. . .
There are certainly plenty of atheists and agnostics who are good conservatives. However, inevitably in my experience, when you have someone who has a huge beef with Christians, they turn to the Left.
, . .

They guy seems to think that if one believes the evolutionary process is sound science, rather than "creationism", then one must be an atheist or agnostic, and a lefty?

He is some kind of really confused. Or an idiot.

103 Kragar  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:59:42am

re: #96 JamesTKirk

She is cute...
///

Not denying that.

104 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:59:53am

re: #93 JamesTKirk

Where are those Puppeteers and those transporter disks anyhow!

105 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:00:18am

There must be multitudinous quotes and confirmations of Supreme Evil LibelBlogmaster Charles Johnson saying nasty things about Christians.

All the extra traffic is the Minions of Purity scouring LGF pages 'proving' it. I'm sure they'll come up with a banana peel here and there they can make into a tiny meal.

Good luck on that.

Then again, some extra traffic may be others who are sick of the whole whacked out state of conservatism at them moment and are looking for another place to call home. Hm...

106 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:00:26am

re: #83 Dianna

This time, it's San Diego, and the ACORN employee is actively soliciting Giles as though she's a real prostitute and wants to help in smuggling children into the US to engage in child prostitution. Yeah, it's great stuff, but it is still the sideshow to the real main event.

ACORN will make cosmetic changes to claim that they've cleaned out the bad apples, but they keep hiring people of questionable moral and ethical flexibility who not only ignore the clear criminality suggested, but provide new and more illegal methods of engaging in same (tax evasion, prostitution, child prostitution, harboring/transporting illegal aliens, etc.)

That's a much bigger problem, and even then,it's not the main event.

The main event is the need to unwind all the money - where it's coming from and where it's all going. If they're comingling funds for homeowner assistance with their political operations, they're in big trouble and could lose tax exemption status.

Investigators need to look at conducting serious and fully involved audits to figure out what's going on there - and can't just rely on ACORN to do the job via an independent source.

107 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:00:32am

re: #97 Killgore Trout

Has he threatened to kill anyone yet?

Not yet.

Oh, don't worry - he will.

108 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:00:35am

re: #102 reine.de.tout

They guy seems to think that if one believes the evolutionary process is sound science, rather than "creationism", then one must be an atheist or agnostic, and a lefty?

He is some kind of really confused. Or an idiot.

I vote for idiot.

109 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:00:58am

re: #102 reine.de.tout

They guy seems to think that if one believes the evolutionary process is sound science, rather than "creationism", then one must be an atheist or agnostic, and a lefty? He is some kind of really confused. Or an idiot.

Ding ding!

110 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:00:59am

re: #94 buzzsawmonkey

Driving while holding a cellphone is stupid; handsfree laws make sense. But the recent rumbles I have heard that it is "just as dangerous" to drive while talking on a handsfree is simply nuts. Will it next become illegal to talk to the other people in the car?

It's the stupidest thing - talking hands-free is definitely safer than having a person sitting next to you who needs eye contact, gestures and maybe a pat on the shoulder for the communication to work.

The Safety Nazis should ban radio, too, while they're at it. All that fumbling with dials and stuff...

111 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:01:06am

re: #85 Charles

Site enhancement suggestion - take any links from any of these sites and redirrect them here.

Every one of them is invoking God's name for their own purposes.

112 avanti  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:01:24am

re: #92 Charles

That's seems close to what my other stats report, but in general Alexa's a pretty unreliable indicator and shouldn't be considered definitive at all.

Still, even a 39% bump is pretty big, even if it's off a bit, congratulations.

113 badger1970  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:01:35am

re: #94 buzzsawmonkey

There was a Corman-esque driving safety video that we had to sit through. It basically said, let your kids kill each other in the backseat, leave the radio station tuned to whatever it's set to, avoid reading bumper stickers and to absolutely make sure your headlights are on at night or you're going to unable to come home feed your very cute puppy because of your untimely death.

114 Charpete67  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:01:36am

re: #67 reine.de.tout

NOTE:

I am a Christian, a Catholic, and I have never made a secret of that fact here at LGF, and of course, my Catholicism colors my viewpoint, which I have made known here at LGF on various topics, and although people have disagreed with me, CHARLES JOHNSON has never stepped in to promote any sort of anti-Christian anything.

To whoever thinks Charles Johnson and LGF are anti-Christian - you are simply wrong wrong wrong.

I would echo that, but add...does it matter?

I've always wondered what the whole flounce thing accomplishes. If someone doesn't like a blog...couldn't they just...ya know...go away? I like that I don't agree with every person here...that is the point...no?

115 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:01:36am

re: #104 bofhell

Where are those Puppeteers and those transporter disks anyhow!

Not my universe, sorry. Even if the Spock and Uhura met the Kzinti once.

116 Lee Coller  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:01:47am

re: #94 buzzsawmonkey

Driving while holding a cellphone is stupid; handsfree laws make sense. But the recent rumbles I have heard that it is "just as dangerous" to drive while talking on a handsfree is simply nuts. Will it next become illegal to talk to the other people in the car?

Back when CA first enacted their hands-free law I decided to go and compare accidents rates from 2006 with the early 90's before cell phones were as prolific as they were now. This was all done using information publically available from the feds, and I think only applied to highway miles. Bottom line was I was unable to find any significant change in the accident rates over those years. The claim was that using a cell phone was as dangerous as driving drunk, and given that at any time many more are using a cell phone than driving drunk (at least I would hope so) if the claims of the studies actually held up in real life there would have been a huge jump in the number of accidents.

My theory for the difference between the controlled studies and real life is that the controlled studies really compare a distracted driver to a non-distracted one, in real life I'll argue the normal mode for a driver is distracted. Whether they're distracted talking on a cell phone or singing along to their favorite song on the radio really doesn't make any difference.

117 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:02:13am

Obviously if one points out the bigotry of a "pundit" or blogger, one is guilty of an "attack" or at least picking fights. Choosing not to link to sites that promote racism will now be called a "smear."

118 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:02:15am
119 Henchman Ghazi-808  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:02:19am

re: #84 avanti

WTF South Korea? Who'da thunk?

120 BignJames  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:02:32am

re: #99 Cannadian Club Akbar

Holding a cell phone while driving is stupid. A beer? Not so much.
///


Down South most men drive w/a beer between their legs...keeps their b*** from overheating...at least that's what I tried to tell the cop.

121 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:02:33am

re: #110 Cato the Elder

What an absolutely beautiful Dog you have Cato!

122 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:02:46am

re: #102 reine.de.tout

They guy seems to think that if one believes the evolutionary process is sound science, rather than "creationism", then one must be an atheist or agnostic, and a lefty?

He is some kind of really confused. Or an idiot.

This is extremely common on the right wingnutosphere -- they conflate creationism with conservatism. It's a litmus test for them - if you don't swallow the creationist hooey, you're an atheist and a liberal. Two of the dirtiest words in their limited vocabulary.

123 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:02:48am

re: #94 buzzsawmonkey

Ya know, I really want to agree, but I recently had some idiot nearly run into me because they were jabbering away on their headset. Now whether this is the exception or not, I don't know, but I'm open to the possibility.

Of course (as observed previously) I drive around the National Capitol Area. That should say it all right there.

124 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:03:00am

re: #106 lawhawk

In all the years I've been working in nonprofit world, I've never seen that happen to a group so heavily connected politically.

Remember the United Way scandals of the mid-90's?

125 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:03:10am

re: #102 reine.de.tout

They guy seems to think that if one believes the evolutionary process is sound science, rather than "creationism", then one must be an atheist or agnostic, and a lefty?

He is some kind of really confused. Or an idiot.

He's been told by his preachers that anyone who questions that church's teachings must hate Christians and be an atheist, or worse, an evil Jooo.
And the preacher probably also says that anyone who believes in evolution isn't a real Christian.

126 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:03:37am

re: #99 Cannadian Club Akbar

Anyone want to drive us around whilst we drink to their sobriety?

127 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:03:40am

re: #123 bofhell

Of course (as observed previously) I drive around the National Capitol Area.

Sympathy upding.

128 avanti  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:03:51am

re: #119 BigPapa

WTF South Korea? Who'da thunk?

Charles may have a simple explanation for that, but I noticed that too.

129 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:04:12am

I have something to look foward to tonight - the season premiere of The Office. I didn't even know it was on this week until I saw something about it in the Examiner.

And I think next week is the season premiere of Heroes.

130 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:04:32am

Just because it's cute, and the thread is open. And sometimes I do feel I'm in a fort here.

131 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:04:44am

re: #129 Mad Al-Jaffee

I have something to look foward to tonight - the season premiere of The Office. I didn't even know it was on this week until I saw something about it in the Examiner.

And I think next week is the season premiere of Heroes.

Fringe is on tonight. My fav.

132 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:05:00am

re: #129 Mad Al-Jaffee

I have something to look foward to tonight - the season premiere of The Office. I didn't even know it was on this week until I saw something about it in the Examiner.

And I think next week is the season premiere of Heroes.

What about Dollhouse?

133 Charpete67  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:05:09am

re: #129 Mad Al-Jaffee

I have something to look foward to tonight - the season premiere of The Office. I didn't even know it was on this week until I saw something about it in the Examiner.

And I think next week is the season premiere of Heroes.

House is Monday night

134 VioletTiger  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:05:10am

re: #94 buzzsawmonkey

Driving while holding a cellphone is stupid; handsfree laws make sense. But the recent rumbles I have heard that it is "just as dangerous" to drive while talking on a handsfree is simply nuts. Will it next become illegal to talk to the other people in the car?


The 'safety experts' tell me that talking to somebody in the car is safer because they can see what is happening on the road and will react to the traffic, while somebody on the phone will keep on talking.

135 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:05:40am

re: #122 Charles

This is extremely common on the right wingnutosphere -- they conflate creationisim with conservatism. It's a litmus test for them - if you don't swallow the creationist hooey, you're an atheist and a liberal. Two of the dirtiest words in their limited vocabulary.

Everybody knows God hates Science.. It's a fact.
/

136 Kragar  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:06:02am

re: #133 Charpete67

House is Monday night

Waiting on Stargate Universe and V, and for Law Abiding Citizen to hit the theaters.

137 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:06:22am

re: #114 Charpete67

I would echo that, but add...does it matter?

I've always wondered what the whole flounce thing accomplishes. If someone doesn't like a blog...couldn't they just...ya know...go away? I like that I don't agree with every person here...that is the point...no?

The flounces, to us, seem to accomplish nothing. However, to the flouncer, it builds them martyr points. Apparently, the more martyr points they score, the bigger the victim they appear to their buddies at places like LGF2. Thus, they garner more sympathy from other, like-minded psychotic individuals.

138 badger1970  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:06:57am

re: #134 VioletTiger

The 'safety experts' tell me that talking to somebody in the car is safer because they can see what is happening on the road and will react to the traffic, while somebody on the phone will keep on talking.

But what if you are talking to a psychic on the cellphone? /

139 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:07:27am
140 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:07:28am

re: #48 Charles

The talking point going around the wingnut blogs today is that LGF is in serious decline because I'm a virulent anti-Christian. Of course, they can't actually link to anything at all that I've ever written that demonstrates this, but that isn't stopping them.

I'm not anti-Christian at all, as people with minds of their own can easily see.

Again, they're unable to separate being opposed to radical far-right religious agendas like creationism from being opposed to religion in general. Same old same old. This is how fundamentalists keep the masses in line - if you depart from the talking points even the tiniest bit, you're an apostate who deserves excommunication.

And as for "declining" -- our traffic has been rising steadily for the past two months, which must be extremely irritating for them.

I beg to differ on one tiny point: I'm a fundamentalist and so are many of my friends and associates. We do NOT take that position.

141 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:07:47am

re: #116 Lee Coller

Back when CA first enacted their hands-free law I decided to go and compare accidents rates from 2006 with the early 90's before cell phones were as prolific as they were now. This was all done using information publically available from the feds, and I think only applied to highway miles. Bottom line was I was unable to find any significant change in the accident rates over those years. The claim was that using a cell phone was as dangerous as driving drunk, and given that at any time many more are using a cell phone than driving drunk (at least I would hope so) if the claims of the studies actually held up in real life there would have been a huge jump in the number of accidents.

My theory for the difference between the controlled studies and real life is that the controlled studies really compare a distracted driver to a non-distracted one, in real life I'll argue the normal mode for a driver is distracted. Whether they're distracted talking on a cell phone or singing along to their favorite song on the radio really doesn't make any difference.

And they probably also do the tests at the times the most attention is needed, like when there is an accident ahead, or while merging.
If for some reason I'm on the phone when merging, I tell the person that I have to pay attention to driving. And I always use a handsfree unit (Bluetooth; the extra cost is worth it to avoid the wire that makes me not want to turn my head too far.)

In Mass, if I see someone not paying attention when merging, 99% of the time they're on a handheld phone or from NY, where lining up with a car on the highway is the normal way to merge.

142 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:07:52am

re: #96 JamesTKirk

Well, walk into any ACORN office,and you might find yourself confronting Jake and Elwood at this rate:
[Link: www.dailymotion.com...]

143 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:08:18am

re: #140 MandyManners

I beg to differ on one tiny point: I'm a fundamentalist and so are many of my friends and associates. We do NOT take that position.

Neither do I, Mandy. However, it is true that the wackomentalists (for lack of a better term), the nutjobs off the deep end of the fundamentalist spectrum, DO do this. I wish I knew of a better way to dissociate people like you and me from them.

144 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:09:00am

re: #140 MandyManners

I beg to differ on one tiny point: I'm a fundamentalist and so are many of my friends and associates. We do NOT take that position.

Just missionary, amirite?

145 Kragar  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:09:34am

re: #144 JamesTKirk

Just missionary, amirite?

Reverse Cowgirl?

146 VioletTiger  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:09:36am

re: #106 lawhawk

This time, it's San Diego, and the ACORN employee is actively soliciting Giles as though she's a real prostitute and wants to help in smuggling children into the US to engage in child prostitution. Yeah, it's great stuff, but it is still the sideshow to the real main event.

ACORN will make cosmetic changes to claim that they've cleaned out the bad apples, but they keep hiring people of questionable moral and ethical flexibility who not only ignore the clear criminality suggested, but provide new and more illegal methods of engaging in same (tax evasion, prostitution, child prostitution, harboring/transporting illegal aliens, etc.)

That's a much bigger problem, and even then,it's not the main event.

The main event is the need to unwind all the money - where it's coming from and where it's all going. If they're comingling funds for homeowner assistance with their political operations, they're in big trouble and could lose tax exemption status.

Investigators need to look at conducting serious and fully involved audits to figure out what's going on there - and can't just rely on ACORN to do the job via an independent source.

They will not open their books so how can we ever know if they are comingling funds for helping the poor with their political work?

147 Charpete67  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:09:44am

re: #137 Honorary Yooper

The flounces, to us, seem to accomplish nothing. However, to the flouncer, it builds them martyr points. Apparently, the more martyr points they score, the bigger the victim they appear to their buddies at places like LGF2. Thus, they garner more sympathy from other, like-minded psychotic individuals.

...ah...seems like a lot of effort being spent for not a lot of return...

148 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:09:45am

re: #132 JamesTKirk

What about Dollhouse?

A week from tomorrow.
I have to finish watching at least the unaired episodes from the DVD by then.

149 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:10:14am

re: #132 JamesTKirk

What about Dollhouse?

I don't know - never watched that. I'm still upset at FOX for cancelling The Sarah Connor Chronicles. And NBC for cancelling My Name is Earl.

The SNL half hour show is also on tonight. I can expect a lot of jokes about the tea parties, not so many about Acorn and dear leader.

150 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:10:16am

re: #147 Charpete67

...ah...seems like a lot of effort being spent for not a lot of return...

Think of it like a fraternity initiation. You've got to make the coolness grade before you get accepted into the club.

151 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:10:17am

re: #114 Charpete67

I would echo that, but add...does it matter?

I've always wondered what the whole flounce thing accomplishes. If someone doesn't like a blog...couldn't they just...ya know...go away? I like that I don't agree with every person here...that is the point...no?

I think it's the illusory sense of self-importance which the internet can impart. It can give some people the impression that their comings (and especially goings) are of some impact. And the thing is - as much as I like and genuinely respect the comments and opinions of a great many lizards, we're all pixels on a screen.
Yeah, and there are probably some unresolved parental issues, too.

152 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:10:25am

re: #16 thedopefishlives

They're getting more and more boring these days.

The good ones have all been weeded out.

153 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:10:26am

re: #143 thedopefishlives

Neither do I, Mandy. However, it is true that the wackomentalists (for lack of a better term), the nutjobs off the deep end of the fundamentalist spectrum, DO do this. I wish I knew of a better way to dissociate people like you and me from them.

The only way I know of is to tell them that they do not speak for me, that I can speak for myself.

154 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:10:36am

re: #134 VioletTiger

The 'safety experts' tell me that talking to somebody in the car is safer because they can see what is happening on the road and will react to the traffic, while somebody on the phone will keep on talking.

That hasn't been my experience. A driver should be able to tell the other person, whether in the car or on the phone, to stop talking.

155 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:10:40am

re: #67 reine.de.tout

NOTE:

I am a Christian, a Catholic, and I have never made a secret of that fact here at LGF, and of course, my Catholicism colors my viewpoint, which I have made known here at LGF on various topics, and although people have disagreed with me, CHARLES JOHNSON has never stepped in to promote any sort of anti-Christian anything.

To whoever thinks Charles Johnson and LGF are anti-Christian - you are simply wrong wrong wrong.

Agreed, exchange 'Catholic' with 'Mormon' and I echo exactly your sentiments.

156 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:10:40am

Flouncydopes

157 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:10:54am

re: #144 JamesTKirk

Just missionary, amirite?

*shaking my head*

158 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:11:07am

re: #137 Honorary Yooper

The flounces, to us, seem to accomplish nothing. However, to the flouncer, it builds them martyr points. Apparently, the more martyr points they score, the bigger the victim they appear to their buddies at places like LGF2. Thus, they garner more sympathy from other, like-minded psychotic individuals.

So... they're trying to win a free game?

159 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:11:16am

re: #146 VioletTiger

If there's a criminal investigation or the state AG wants the books, they can move to get them opened.

Besides, if ACORN has nothing to hide as they're always claiming, they should have no problem providing the needed information.

160 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:11:22am

re: #138 badger1970

But what if you are talking to a psychic on the cellphone? /

Then the psychic should tell you to watch out even before you see anything, right?

161 BothAndWorld  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:11:29am

Obama backs down on the missile defense shield in Poland and Ukraine. Good move or bad move? [Link: edition.cnn.com...]

162 Kragar  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:11:38am

re: #147 Charpete67

...ah...seems like a lot of effort being spent for not a lot of return...

I've been toying with going over and complaining about the quality of the posts and how the posters all seemed to have changed so much, kind of pulling a reverse flounce, just for the hell of it.

163 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:11:43am

re: #139 buzzsawmonkey

There's a very realistic video going around about texting while driving. Portrays a devestating accident. However, since it's about British teenage girls, it doesn't really affect me.

164 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:11:47am

I just got a phone call telling me I didn't get a job I applied for. Guess I'll go out tonight and have women tell me they won't have sex with me. Geez.

165 abbyadams  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:11:57am

re: #67 reine.de.tout

I'm still pretty much a noob, but am also a Catholic, and agree with you 100%.

166 Lee Coller  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:12:03am

re: #161 BothAndWorld

Obama backs down on the missile defense shield in Poland and Ukraine. Good move or bad move? [Link: edition.cnn.com...]

Really bad move.

167 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:12:34am

re: #164 Cannadian Club Akbar

I just got a phone call telling me I didn't get a job I applied for. Guess I'll go out tonight and have women tell me they won't have sex with me. Geez.

Better than here, where a lot of people have been getting phone calls saying they don't have jobs they used to have.

168 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:12:35am

re: #164 Cannadian Club Akbar

I just got a phone call telling me I didn't get a job I applied for. Guess I'll go out tonight and have women tell me they won't have sex with me. Geez.

Hell, I won't have sex with you either. Sorry.

169 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:12:43am

re: #139 buzzsawmonkey

There I was driving into the City on I-80 a few years ago..
I got passed by a lady that had the newspaper folded over the steering wheel holding a cup of coffee steering the car and putting on makeup in the rear view mirror...
I wonder if she is still alive...

170 Kragar  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:13:21am

re: #161 BothAndWorld

Obama backs down on the missile defense shield in Poland and Ukraine. Good move or bad move? [Link: edition.cnn.com...]

He dropping a long range plan for a short and medium range plan.

171 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:13:23am

re: #144 JamesTKirk

Just missionary, amirite?

Butterfly!

172 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:13:27am

re: #164 Cannadian Club Akbar

I just got a phone call telling me I didn't get a job I applied for. Guess I'll go out tonight and have women tell me they won't have sex with me. Geez.

Looks like we have a lot in common. Sorry to hear about that, but keep trying!

173 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:13:37am

ok ewww. Next time I feel something wet on my arm and I look up and there aren't any clouds above me - I'm... gonna be sick.

174 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:13:47am

re: #147 Charpete67

...ah...seems like a lot of effort being spent for not a lot of return...

Very much so, but again, that's to us, the outside observers. To the flouncer, it is a major psychological boost to be booted from a blog considered by their friends to be, for lack of a better word, bad, or gone wrong. This boost seems to wear off in some, and some of those go back to flounce again with a sock puppet. It's really bizarre.

175 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:14:01am

re: #164 Cannadian Club Akbar

I just got a phone call telling me I didn't get a job I applied for. Guess I'll go out tonight and have women tell me they won't have sex with me. Geez.

(((CCA)))

176 abbyadams  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:14:08am

re: #102 reine.de.tout

You'd be surprised how many people think that "believes in science" must equal "no belief in God." I think my brain is big enough for both, thanks.

177 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:14:10am

re: #169 HoosierHoops

There I was driving into the City on I-80 a few years ago..
I got passed by a lady that had the newspaper folded over the steering wheel holding a cup of coffee steering the car and putting on makeup in the rear view mirror...
I wonder if she is still alive...

The best one I've seen: A guy shaving with a straight razor on the interstate. Newspaper on the steering wheel, shaving bowl in his lap, razor in one hand, adjusting the rear view mirror with the other.

178 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:14:13am
179 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:14:17am

re: #140 MandyManners

I beg to differ on one tiny point: I'm a fundamentalist and so are many of my friends and associates. We do NOT take that position.

re: #143 thedopefishlives

Neither do I, Mandy. However, it is true that the wackomentalists (for lack of a better term), the nutjobs off the deep end of the fundamentalist spectrum, DO do this. I wish I knew of a better way to dissociate people like you and me from them.

I'm not, but I have some experience with the rigid and non-rigid "types" (please forgive fumbling for words.) Mandy's the latter. My father's mother was the former.

I don't have a clue about a buzzword for the former type, but I'm 95% certain it has to do with a fundamental (no pun) mindset towards other people. Call it, ... control freak.

/just tossin' in my two cents

180 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:14:27am

re: #169 HoosierHoops

There I was driving into the City on I-80 a few years ago..
I got passed by a lady that had the newspaper folded over the steering wheel holding a cup of coffee steering the car and putting on makeup in the rear view mirror...
I wonder if she is still alive...

That was you?

181 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:14:34am

re: #168 JamesTKirk

Hell, I won't have sex with you either. Sorry.

i thought the Captain of the good ship Enterprise would f*** ANYTHING.

182 Kragar  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:14:59am

re: #171 SteveC

Butterfly!

Wheelbarrow or perhaps reverse wheelbarrow with a rear admiral thrown in just for fun.

183 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:15:00am

re: #146 VioletTiger

They publish a 990 every year.

184 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:15:29am

re: #179 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I'm not, but I have some experience with the rigid and non-rigid "types" (please forgive fumbling for words.) Mandy's the latter. My father's mother was the former.

I don't have a clue about a buzzword for the former type, but I'm 95% certain it has to do with a fundamental (no pun) mindset towards other people. Call it, ... control freak.

/just tossin' in my two cents

Control freak sounds right.

185 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:15:36am

re: #164 Cannadian Club Akbar

I just got a phone call telling me I didn't get a job I applied for. Guess I'll go out tonight and have women tell me they won't have sex with me. Geez.

I hope you get a better one soon.
But that was nice of them. Sometimes, I never get an answer, and they won't take my calls. Seriously. Usually, I have to call, and they'll give some stupid excuse. I was told by one place that they had found a better candidate. She must have thought I was stupid, because the job was still posted for some time after that.
I guess no one was a better candidate than me.

186 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:15:41am

Good afternoon Lizards ... before I get on the phone with my FIL and help him get his first computer ever (he's 73 yrs old) set up down in Florida, I wanted to quickly say something about an item in today's news.

I don't like that we have backed down and agreed to remove the early warning radar from Polish and Czech soil. It is a sign of weakness and will make our brave eastern European allies less sure of their decision to align with us. It makes the iranians feel bolder because we will be seen as weaker. And it makes Israel feel they're also on their own in facing down the iranian nuke threat. In short, this decision does nothing positive for our foreign policy or the safety of our friends. And it emboldens our foes everywhere.

187 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:15:42am

re: #179 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I have some experience with the rigid and non-rigid "types"

Could you please stop feeding me so many obvious straight lines?

188 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:15:51am

re: #181 SteveC

i thought the Captain of the good ship Enterprise would f*** ANYTHING.

Especially if it's green.

189 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:16:13am
190 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:16:14am

re: #188 MandyManners

Especially if it's green.

Although he's already stated earlier today that he wouldn't do YOU when you're green. Prejudicial.

191 VioletTiger  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:16:21am

re: #138 badger1970

But what if you are talking to a psychic on the cellphone? /

Then yer a kook, 'cause there is no such thing! ;)

192 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:16:21am

re: #182 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Wheelbarrow or perhaps reverse wheelbarrow with a rear admiral thrown in just for fun.

Full Rear Admiral, or just the lower half?

193 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:16:39am

re: #188 MandyManners

Especially if it's green.

/Kermit runs away, flailing arms and screaming for Miss Piggy

194 Kragar  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:16:44am

re: #188 MandyManners

Especially if it's green.

That would explain why cargo bay 3 is filled with nothing except antibiotics.

195 Oh no...Sand People!  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:16:53am

Well, gotta sign off and get some food.

Later all.

196 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:17:16am

re: #190 thedopefishlives

Although he's already stated earlier today that he wouldn't do YOU when you're green. Prejudicial.

Not once she mentioned the hurling thing.

197 Kragar  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:17:35am

re: #192 SteveC

Full Rear Admiral, or just the lower half?

Keep em guessing

198 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:17:39am

re: #177 thedopefishlives

The best one I've seen: A guy shaving with a straight razor on the interstate. Newspaper on the steering wheel, shaving bowl in his lap, razor in one hand, adjusting the rear view mirror with the other.

He'd better be careful so he doesn't hit a bump while shaving his neck.

199 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:17:45am

re: #193 OldLineTexan

/Kermit runs away, flailing arms and screaming for Miss Piggy

followed by millions of environmentalists

200 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:18:02am

re: #127 JamesTKirk

My other car is Admiral Janeway's modded runabout...

201 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:18:05am

re: #184 MandyManners

Control freak sounds right.

My grandmother could have been put on exhibit in the Smithsonian's Psychology Exhibit.

202 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:18:05am

re: #196 JamesTKirk

Not once she mentioned the hurling thing.

Hurling's out? OK.

What about discus, or javelin?

203 Charpete67  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:18:17am

re: #174 Honorary Yooper

Very much so, but again, that's to us, the outside observers. To the flouncer, it is a major psychological boost to be booted from a blog considered by their friends to be, for lack of a better word, bad, or gone wrong. This boost seems to wear off in some, and some of those go back to flounce again with a sock puppet. It's really bizarre.

wow...sounds like a drug...I'm out of here...that wasn't a flounce...I just have to go...

204 Danny  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:18:29am

re: #164 Cannadian Club Akbar

I just got a phone call telling me I didn't get a job I applied for. Guess I'll go out tonight and have women tell me they won't have sex with me. Geez.

Don't feel bad. I once had a guy tell me that eHarmony.com refunded his signup fee because they couldn't match him up.

205 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:18:33am

re: #169 HoosierHoops

There I was driving into the City on I-80 a few years ago..
I got passed by a lady that had the newspaper folded over the steering wheel holding a cup of coffee steering the car and putting on makeup in the rear view mirror...
I wonder if she is still alive...

Usually, you see that on I-280 at 85+!

The Junipero Serra Memorial Speedway, with its long, swooping curves, is just made for the braille school of driving.

206 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:18:43am

re: #190 thedopefishlives

Although he's already stated earlier today that he wouldn't do YOU when you're green. Prejudicial.

That's 'cause I'd be about to hurl.

207 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:18:58am

re: #187 JamesTKirk

Could you please stop feeding me so many obvious straight lines?

That was an awfully limp come-back.

208 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:19:14am

re: #188 MandyManners

Especially if it's green.

Klingon (pointing to bottle in Scotty's hand): "What is that?"

*Long Pause*

Scotty (shrugs shoulders): "It's green"
**

Kirk: "Computer... Captain's personal log, make a note NOT to serve Romulan Ale at a state dinner."

209 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:19:24am

VDH

...The false charge of racism won't change that reality, but it may well, if pursued, turn legislative defeats into political catastrophes for a generation. How strange that with large majorities in the House and Senate, with a president who just months ago enjoyed 70 percent approval ratings, and with a compliant and influential press, the Democratic party cannot pass its own legislation and instead is detouring to label most middle-class voters of all beliefs "racists." It is as if a group of political advisers got together and brainstormed how in theory to ruin the best liberal landscape in generations.


Anatomy of the "Racist" Charge—or, How to Turn a Setback into a Disaster [Victor Davis Hanson]
Read the whole thing.

210 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:19:38am

re: #141 Kosh's Shadow

Having learned to drive in Boston and being from New York City, I resemble that remark...

211 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:19:52am

re: #193 OldLineTexan

/Kermit runs away, flailing arms and screaming for Miss Piggy

I'm resisting a joke about oh I can't even say it.

212 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:20:07am

re: #204 Danny

Don't feel bad. I once had a guy tell me that eHarmony.com refunded his signup fee because they couldn't match him up.

Wonder what his profile looked like?

213 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:20:11am

re: #208 SteveC

That oversized vegetable spokesman better look out.

214 badger1970  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:20:14am

re: #205 Dianna

I guess that's why they have Memorial in its name.

215 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:20:26am

re: #194 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

That would explain why cargo bay 3 is filled with nothing except antibiotics.

And, body-condoms.

216 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:20:30am

re: #138 badger1970

But what if you are talking to a psychic on the cellphone? /

re: #191 VioletTiger

Then yer a kook, 'cause there is no such thing! ;)

There ARE cellphones, I seen 'em wid me own eyes!

217 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:20:32am

re: #209 J.D.

VDH


Anatomy of the "Racist" Charge—or, How to Turn a Setback into a Disaster [Victor Davis Hanson]
Read the whole thing.

Sorry, VDH is just wrong to try to make excuses for the racism problem. It's not a "false charge." There is a very real issue here, and when people like VDH refuse to call it out, it only gets worse.

218 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:20:41am

re: #210 bofhell

Having learned to drive in Boston and being from New York City, I resemble that remark...

In your defense, I learned to drive in Chicago and it works pretty much the same way. Along with the requisite driving no more than 6 inches from the bumper of the car in front of you, even at 80 mph.

219 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:20:44am

re: #211 MandyManners

I'm resisting a joke about oh I can't even say it.

Watch out for a pork chop.

220 King of the Douche, now you may bow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:21:06am

re: #211 MandyManners

I'm resisting a joke about oh I can't even say it.

What's green and...

221 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:21:16am

re: #201 pre-Boomer Marine brat

My grandmother could have been put on exhibit in the Smithsonian's Psychology Exhibit.

Egads. I bet your mom had a hard time with her.

222 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:21:24am

re: #211 MandyManners

I'm resisting a joke about oh I can't even say it.

We'd let Miss Piggy speak for herself, but she seems to have a frog in her throat.

223 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:21:49am

Office wiseasses. Email exchange this morning:

Sent:

If everyone will remember to log out of their computers at the end of the day,
we will help keep the network cache clear,
which will help eliminate some of our current network traffic speed problems.


Reply:

That's the worst Haiku I ever read.
224 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:21:50am

re: #168 JamesTKirk

Surplus of Green Orion Slave women?

225 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:21:52am

re: #217 Charles

Sorry, VDH is just wrong to try to make excuses for the racism problem. It's not a "false charge." There is a very real issue here, and when people like VDH refuse to call it out, it only gets worse.

Charles, it is not the majority of us.
Honestly.

226 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:21:54am

re: #204 Danny

Don't feel bad. I once had a guy tell me that eHarmony.com refunded his signup fee because they couldn't match him up.

There's an episode of "How I Met Your Mother" like that. The lady at the matchmaking agency tells Ted that she can't find him a single compatible woman in all of New York.

227 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:22:17am

re: #225 J.D.

Charles, it is not the majority of us.
Honestly.

That doesn't make it any less of a problem.

228 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:22:23am

re: #205 Dianna

Usually, you see that on I-280 at 85+!

The Junipero Serra Memorial Speedway, with its long, swooping curves, is just made for the braille school of driving.

I've seen stuff like that on I-355 and the Tri-State Motor Speedway (I-294) as well.

Of course, inattentiveness on the Damn..er..Dan Ryan can have really, really bad results.

229 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:22:26am

re: #219 OldLineTexan

Watch out for a pork chop.

The other white meat.

230 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:22:41am

re: #220 Cannadian Club Akbar

What's green and...

Red all over?

231 Son of the Black Dog  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:22:57am

re: #183 Dianna

They publish a 990 every year.

Actually they don't. As least many of the 300+ affiliated organizations don't. The IRS has never called them on it. It is essentially impossible to track how the money flows through all the affiliated organizations.

There is a high degree of non-compliance among politically oriented non-profits.

IIRC the Nader organizations don't publish 990's either, and the IRS hasn't ever said boo to them.

232 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:23:14am

re: #227 thedopefishlives

That doesn't make it any less of a problem.

I didn't say that and neither did he.

233 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:23:16am

re: #223 jaunte

Reply: That's the worst Haiku I ever read.

I do that all the time. But for bonus points, I sometimes manage to rewrite their memo into a haiku.

234 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:23:31am

re: #225 J.D.

Charles, it is not the majority of us.
Honestly.

And I didn't say that it was. It doesn't have to be a majority to be a very serious problem.

235 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:23:40am

re: #221 MandyManners

Egads. I bet your mom had a hard time with her.

Dad ran interference. Byt eh time they married, he'd matured enough (in the Marines) to know he had to get away from her.

236 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:24:28am

re: #222 JamesTKirk

We'd let Miss Piggy speak for herself, but she seems to have a frog in her throat.

oh my goodness

237 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:25:39am

re: #221 MandyManners

Egads. I bet your mom had a hard time with her.

(add-on to my first reply, I could tell an annecdote which would ...
... ... no ... I don't think I better ... Mandy would vomit)

238 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:25:47am

re: #218 thedopefishlives

Been there, done that too on the Kennedy and the Stevenson...

239 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:26:04am

re: #228 Honorary Yooper


Of course, inattentiveness on the Damn..er..Dan Ryan can have really, really bad results.

And this is why I don't drive through downtown anymore. It's sorta like taking 35W through downtown Minneapolis: You just KNOW it isn't going to end well, but the call of that extra 5 minutes you _could_ save is just irresistible.

240 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:26:14am

re: #234 Charles

And I didn't say that it was. It doesn't have to be a majority to be a very serious problem.

Right.
I always thought it was a serious problem when my brother in law, a dyed in the wool Democrat, used racist language... and in front of his kids.
It's not unique to any one group.

241 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:26:14am
242 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:26:29am

Oh, in regards to God and bananas:

This morning we had Mass for the school. While I am getting my faith family assembled, a young woman stops by to talk to one of my boys about a reading they've prepared. She is eating a banana.

As I glance over, she ends the conversation by making the sign of the cross over her classmate with the banana still in her hand.

"Hon," I say, "did you just bless him with a banana?"

"It's a holy banana," she says serenely. "It's been lying on the altar all morning while we've been getting ready for Mass."

There's SOMETHING going on.

243 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:26:49am

re: #235 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Dad ran interference. Byt eh time they married, he'd matured enough (in the Marines) to know he had to get away from her.

Good for him. You wouldn't believe the tales of woe at mother-in-law sites. A common denominator seems to be spineless mommas' boys.

244 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:27:01am

re: #7 JamesTKirk

At least show some imagination.

I furiously waggle my nether regions at you with pantsless indignation! I curse the fornications of your ancestors! I expectorate upon your preferred means of transportation, and I condemn your internet website to death by stagnation! Yarrr! I shall leave this place, and never read it again! *slams door, stomps off*

/trying too hard?

245 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:27:13am

re: #237 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It's just as well.

246 fizzlogic  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:27:31am
So former Fed chief Paul Volcker yesterday was spouting off about how nuts it is that certain “too big to fail” commercial banks that receive mountains of public money are allowed to run around acting like high-risk hedge funds. In a haymaker that seemed to have been designed to land right between the figurative eyes of year-old commercial bank holding companies Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley, who have amped up their risk profiles and continued their investment banking businesses basically in unchanged form since their conversions to more “conservative” commercial bank status, Volcker barked:
“I do not think it reasonable that public money — taxpayer money — be indirectly available to support risk-prone capital market activities simply because they are housed within a commercial banking organization,” Volcker, 82, said at a financial conference in Los Angeles.


Should we be worried?

247 MJ  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:27:47am

re: #107 Charles

Oh, don't worry - he will.

That'll rile him up, not that he needs the excuse.

248 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:27:48am

re: #229 MandyManners

The other white meat.

long pig?

/... someone ELSE posted that just now ... I did NOT!

249 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:27:50am

re: #205 Dianna

Usually, you see that on I-280 at 85+!

The Junipero Serra Memorial Speedway, with its long, swooping curves, is just made for the braille school of driving.

Cop pulls over a car. "Sir, do you know how fast you were going?"

I was driving the speed limit," guy says. "See that sign right there? 95. I was going 95."

"Holy...! Son, that's not the speed limit, that's the highway sign! You're on Interstate 95!"

The cop sees another fellow, cowering in the back seat. "What's wrong with you?"

"We just got off of Interstate 250!"

250 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:27:53am

re: #238 bofhell

Been there, done that too on the Kennedy and the Stevenson...

Ugh, the Stevenson...

Had to deal with I-55 this very morning. Smooth sailing until Lemont Road. OK, that's normal. No one seems to know how to crest the small rise caused by the bridge over Lemont. Then traffic keeps crawling past Cass Avenue. Why you ask? Because of police and fire activity on the other side of the fucking expressway!

251 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:27:54am

re: #241 buzzsawmonkey

I wanna break out in a Tom Lehrer song about a Girl Scout similarly inclined.

BE PREPARED!

252 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:28:17am

re: #240 J.D.

Right.
I always thought it was a serious problem when my brother in law, a dyed in the wool Democrat, used racist language... and in front of his kids.
It's not unique to any one group.

No, it's not unique. However, it's erupting out of the right wing now like a really smelly volcano.

That latest Rush Limbaugh recording posted earlier is a perfect example. It's absolutely pure racist hatred.

253 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:28:36am

re: #237 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(add-on to my first reply, I could tell an annecdote which would ...
... ... no ... I don't think I better ... Mandy would vomit)

And we've already established how unattractive that is.

254 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:28:44am

re: #244 Pawn of the Oppressor

I furiously waggle my nether regions at you with pantsless indignation! I curse the fornications of your ancestors! I expectorate upon your preferred means of transportation, and I condemn your internet website to death by stagnation! Yarrr! I shall leave this place, and never read it again! *slams door, stomps off*

/trying too hard?

Yes and we are going to bring out the Holy Hand Grenade against you.

255 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:28:52am

re: #217 Charles

I think VDH sketched the reality of the situation very, very clearly.

Of course there are racists, and they've been loud and noticeable. But there is nothing pervasive about it, not even on the right.

256 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:29:26am

re: #231 Son of the Black Dog

Actually they don't. As least many of the 300+ affiliated organizations don't. The IRS has never called them on it. It is essentially impossible to track how the money flows through all the affiliated organizations.

There is a high degree of non-compliance among politically oriented non-profits.

IIRC the Nader organizations don't publish 990's either, and the IRS hasn't ever said boo to them.

That, I know. But the 990 is always the place to start.

257 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:29:34am
258 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:29:46am

re: #242 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh, in regards to God and bananas:

This morning we had Mass for the school. While I am getting my faith family assembled, a young woman stops by to talk to one of my boys about a reading they've prepared. She is eating a banana.

As I glance over, she ends the conversation by making the sign of the cross over her classmate with the banana still in her hand.

"Hon," I say, "did you just bless him with a banana?"

"It's a holy banana," she says serenely. "It's been lying on the altar all morning while we've been getting ready for Mass."

There's SOMETHING going on.

The bananas are starting to attend church regularly. They know something is coming.

259 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:30:21am

re: #250 Honorary Yooper

Ugh, the Stevenson...

Had to deal with I-55 this very morning. Smooth sailing until Lemont Road. OK, that's normal. No one seems to know how to crest the small rise caused by the bridge over Lemont. Then traffic keeps crawling past Cass Avenue. Why you ask? Because of police and fire activity on the other side of the fucking expressway!

Were the expressways so capable, methinks Chicago would have far fewer traffic problems than it does currently...

260 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:31:08am

re: #259 bofhell

Were the expressways so capable, methinks Chicago would have far fewer traffic problems than it does currently...

Chicago would INVENT traffic problems if it had to. It just wouldn't be right.

261 Kragar  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:32:07am

There better be some serious fucking looking into this:

Marines' plea for help under investigation

Tuesday's incident was "under investigation" and details remained unclear, press secretary Geoff Morrell told a news conference.

A McClatchy newspapers' journalist who witnessed the battle reported that a team of Marine trainers made repeated appeals for air and artillery support after being pinned down by insurgents in the village of Ganjgal in eastern Kunar province.

The US troops had to wait more than an hour for attack helicopters to come to their aid and their appeal for artillery fire was rejected, with commanders citing new rules designed to avoid civilian casualties, the report said.

Morrell said the helicopters were not hampered by any restrictions on air power but had to travel a long distance to reach the Marines at the remote location near the Pakistan border.

"I think that it did take some time for close air support to arrive in this case, but this is not a result of more restrictive conditions in which it can be used," he said.

"It was the result, as is often the case in Afghanistan, of the fact that there are great distances often between bases where such assets are located and where our troops are out operating."

262 Danny  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:32:20am

re: #258 SteveC

The bananas are starting to attend church regularly. They know something is coming.

The Second Coming of Day-O?

263 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:32:25am

A major problem with the discussion of racism and politics now is that many critics of the Obama administration are more interested in complaining about being accused of racism if they protest his policies, than are interested in calling out the actual racially divisive statements of people who agree with them on policy matters.

264 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:32:28am

re: #257 buzzsawmonkey

And everyone in Washington is singing New Math

265 lawhawk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:32:31am

The same arguments that ACORN rightfully gets smacked down for apply here.

Acorn says that it's only a small and isolated group that engage in the illegalities, and it's not the whole of the entity. People here slam them every which way to Sunday for making such statements when the evidence is a growing pile of malfeasance.

There is a problem with racism and nirtherism with the GOP. You can argue that it's only a small portion - and don't paint the whole party with it. The Democrats will be more than glad to slam the GOP every which way to Sunday for making such statements when there's a growing pile of evidence to support claims that the GOP is racist, nutty - just take a gander at the photos of the signs at the 9/12 rally, the tea parties, etc. (and the same goes for Democrats who shelter tax cheats like Rangel or those on the take like Jefferson, etc.)

People have to stand up and say enough is enough and clean up the acts. Straighten up and fly right. It's not that difficult to do - there is right and wrong and it applies regardless of what party you belong to and which side you believe in. It also means taking responsibility, which sadly is all too lacking these days in the public sphere.

Enough is enough already. Accountability has to start somewhere - and that includes these grassroots organizations too.

266 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:32:36am

re: #252 Charles

No, it's not unique. However, it's erupting out of the right wing now like a really smelly volcano.

That latest Rush Limbaugh recording posted earlier is a perfect example. It's absolutely pure racist hatred.

Didn't hear it and I'm sure I wouldn't defend it.
But I feel as though you are insinuating that I agree with or am responsible for all that.

267 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:32:49am

re: #242 SanFranciscoZionist

Major pranking incoming!

268 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:33:10am

re: #244 Pawn of the Oppressor

I furiously waggle my nether regions at you with pantsless indignation! I curse the fornications of your ancestors! I expectorate upon your preferred means of transportation, and I condemn your internet website to death by stagnation! Yarrr! I shall leave this place, and never read it again! *slams door, stomps off*

/trying too hard?

I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.
/The French Knight's flounce

269 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:33:18am

re: #255 Dianna

I think VDH sketched the reality of the situation very, very clearly.

Of course there are racists, and they've been loud and noticeable. But there is nothing pervasive about it, not even on the right.

I don't see how you can make that claim at all, when people like Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan and Ann Coulter are everywhere on the right wing, and when the right wing blogosphere unites to support a flat-out white supremacist like Robert Stacy McCain.

270 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:33:23am

re: #260 thedopefishlives

Chicago would INVENT traffic problems if it had to. It just wouldn't be right.

Yes, but the garbage gets picked up on time.

271 sffilk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:33:24am

I found this story and figured it might be of interest. Shows that two faiths can work together.

272 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:33:50am

re: #253 JamesTKirk

And we've already established how unattractive that is.

Oh?

Did something happen barfor this to bring the topic up?

273 VioletTiger  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:34:44am

re: #258 SteveC

The bananas are starting to attend church regularly. They know something is coming.

Bananarama?

274 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:34:59am

But back to my original question. Or a variation thereof.

Does anyone NOT like the iPhone?

275 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:35:07am

re: #266 J.D.

Didn't hear it and I'm sure I wouldn't defend it.
But I feel as though you are insinuating that I agree with or am responsible for all that.

Where did I do that?

276 A Man for all Seasons  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:35:29am

re: #252 Charles

No, it's not unique. However, it's erupting out of the right wing now like a really smelly volcano.

That latest Rush Limbaugh recording posted earlier is a perfect example. It's absolutely pure racist hatred.

I said here months ago that Rush got fired from ESPN for racist comments..
I could never listen to him or ever support his views about any other topic.
Some people defended his comments on ESPN..Just misunderstood...
yeah right..Listen to him now..It's all coming out...He is the de facto leader of the GOP now? Good grief...

277 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:35:35am

re: #252 Charles

That latest Rush Limbaugh recording posted earlier is a perfect example. It's absolutely pure racist hatred.

What? The response to Newsweek saying that all children are born racist?

278 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:35:41am

re: #260 thedopefishlives

Chicago would INVENT traffic problems if it had to. It just wouldn't be right.

The top things that cause traffic congestion in Chicagoland:

*Curves on expressways and tollways. No one seems to know how to take them at speed.
*Left lane hogs, usually with Wisconsin plates.
*Idiots. Enough said.
*Merges. No one likes to give way to anyone else on the road. If they did, their dicks or breasts would suddenly get smaller.
*Tollway construction. But, at least the Tollway does widening projects.
*IDOT. Need I say more? They can't even spelll "idiot" properly.

279 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:36:15am

re: #260 thedopefishlives

Chicago would INVENT traffic problems if it had to. It just wouldn't be right.

Front page article in newspaper about how the traffic is going to be so bad this weekend, when the University of South Carolina has it's home opener in football.

... they've been playing there for years, and the last stadium expansion was 10+ years ago. We know the traffic gets heavy downtown!

(Just wait until the 3rd weekend in October, when the State Fair is open. It's across the street from the football stadium. The local news yahoos will be in full FOX NEWS ALERT mode.)

280 Kragar  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:36:35am

IAEA says Iran can make bomb

Experts at the world's top atomic watchdog are in agreement that Tehran has the ability to make a nuclear bomb and is on the way to developing a missile system able to carry an atomic warhead, according to a secret report seen by The Associated Press.

The document drafted by senior officials at the International Atomic Energy Agency is the clearest indication yet that the agency's leaders share Washington's views on Iran's weapon-making capabilities.

It appears to be the so-called "secret annex" on Iran's nuclear program that Washington says is being withheld by the IAEA's chief.

281 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:36:41am

re: #242 SanFranciscoZionist

"Hon," I say, "did you just bless him with a banana?"

"It's a holy banana," she says serenely. "It's been lying on the altar all morning while we've been getting ready for Mass."

There's SOMETHING going on.

...Was she joking or was she serious?

I do get a Wikipedia result if I search for "holy fruit" but the article contains a lot of theological deep talk, I don't see anything about bananas.

282 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:36:58am

re: #278 Honorary Yooper

We have two seasons here in Minnesota: Winter and construction. You can take a guess as to what causes most of our traffic congestion issues here in the wild north country.

283 Danny  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:36:58am

re: #274 bofhell

Does anyone NOT like the iPhone?

Most anti-iPhoners I've met hate AT&T more so than the phone.

284 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:36:58am

re: #278 Honorary Yooper

The top things that cause traffic congestion in Chicagoland:

*Curves on expressways and tollways. No one seems to know how to take them at speed.
*Left lane hogs, usually with Wisconsin plates.
*Idiots. Enough said.
*Merges. No one likes to give way to anyone else on the road. If they did, their dicks or breasts would suddenly get smaller.
*Tollway construction. But, at least the Tollway does widening projects.
*IDOT. Need I say more? They can't even spelll "idiot" properly.

HEY! I was one of those folks in Wisconsin plates.

Of course I didn't learn to drive there, either...

285 Kosh's Shadow  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:38:02am

re: #280 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

IAEA says Iran can make bomb

If the IAEA admits it, they must have seen one already addressed to Tel Aviv.
I had thought they wouldn't admit it even if Ahmadinejad was their host at a test explosion.

286 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:38:09am
287 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:38:14am

re: #280 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

IAEA says Iran can make bomb

Say a prayer for Israel.

288 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:38:25am

re: #261 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

There better be some serious fucking looking into this:

Marines' plea for help under investigation

Between the AFP byline and mention of "A McClatchy newspapers' journalist who witnessed the battle reported that ...", I deeply concerned, like you, but I want a second source for data on what happened.

289 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:38:43am

re: #275 Charles

Where did I do that?

Just the feeling I have from your comments to me.
It seems to me of late that you don't so much welcome me here any more.

Do I read you correctly?

290 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:38:46am

re: #262 Danny

The Second Coming of Day-O?

"Daylight come and I wanna go home" - code for the Rapture of fruit and vegetables?

291 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:39:24am

re: #273 VioletTiger

Bananarama?

I once had to write a sample paper for some students. They were writing about the Aztecs, so I wrote a sample essay about religious life in an ancient culture. I didn't want to risk writing anything they could try to plagiarize, so I wrote about a culture called the Fruitzaks who lived in Central America and worshipped a god called Bananarama by beating their victims to death with bunches of bananas.

God help up, they plagiarized anyway. And on the test, at least two kids said that the Aztecs sacrified people by killing them with bananas.

292 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:39:33am

re: #279 SteveC

Front page article in newspaper about how the traffic is going to be so bad this weekend, when the University of South Carolina has it's home opener in football.

... they've been playing there for years, and the last stadium expansion was 10+ years ago. We know the traffic gets heavy downtown!

(Just wait until the 3rd weekend in October, when the State Fair is open. It's across the street from the football stadium. The local news yahoos will be in full FOX NEWS ALERT mode.)

After last weekend's game, we're waiting for the Bears to climb back into that spaceship that crashed into Soldier Field and head back from whence they came.

Of course, the only thing that could rival that is when Brett get's his due in a couple weeks.

Go Pack.

293 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:39:38am

re: #269 Charles

I don't see how you can make that claim at all, when people like Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan and Ann Coulter are everywhere on the right wing, and when the right wing blogosphere unites to support a flat-out white supremacist like Robert Stacy McCain.

I think I can make it because 1) Ron Paul is a loon - and most people who aren't obsessively following the internet would ask "Who?" if you mentioned his name; 2) Pat Buchanan has always been an anti-semite and bigot; P.J. O'Rourke wrote an article about it back in the early 90's; and 3) Ann Coulter throws rhetorical bombs, and has lost most of her popularity.

As to the support for R. S. McCain, I don't know what to say.

But I do not accept - not for one second - the idea that there is a rising tide of racism, or a growing acceptance of bigotry.

294 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:39:59am

re: #280 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

IAEA says Iran can make bomb

It appears to be the so-called "secret annex" on Iran's nuclear program that Washington says is being withheld by the IAEA's chief.

ElBaradei lies?

295 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:40:22am

re: #265 lawhawk

Amen!

296 Kragar  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:40:37am

re: #288 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Between the AFP byline and mention of "A McClatchy newspapers' journalist who witnessed the battle reported that ...", I deeply concerned, like you, but I want a second source for data on what happened.

Thats why it needs to be investigated. It needs to be clear what actually happened, but if true, then heads deserve to roll.

297 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:40:38am

re: #277 Dianna

What? The response to Newsweek saying that all children are born racist?

Actually, that wasn't what the article found. It was about nurture, not nature, and I thought it raised some fascinating ideas.

298 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:41:00am

Russia to Deploy Second Topol-M Regiment in 2009

Russia intends to deploy its second Topol-M ICBM regiment this year, ITAR-Tass reported (see GSN, April 13).

With the new unit of mobile launchers, the Russian strategic missile forces would have a total of 18 mobile launchers and 60 silos for the Topol-M missile by the end of 2009.

The weapon and is intended to carry a single 550-kiloton warhead, but it could be modified to deliver up to six independently targeted warheads as well as decoys for throwing missile interceptors off course. The missile has a range greater than 6,500 miles, according to the Yuri Solomonov, the weapon's top designer.

The Topol-M can be stored either in a silo hardened against a potential nuclear strike or on a mobile launcher designed to travel off-road (ITAR-Tass, Sept. 17).

299 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:42:13am

re: #298 NJDhockeyfanRussia to Deploy Second Topol-M Regiment in 2009

Are we back to Fiddler on the Roof?

300 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:42:33am

re: #298 NJDhockeyfan

Russia to Deploy Second Topol-M Regiment in 2009

Oh, but I'm sure Putin will be unclenching now that we're conceding the Polish missile defenses...

/spit

301 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:42:49am

re: #281 Pawn of the Oppressor

...Was she joking or was she serious?

I do get a Wikipedia result if I search for "holy fruit" but the article contains a lot of theological deep talk, I don't see anything about bananas.

She was kidding. I just brought it up because we were talking about the video clip opf the man who uses the (manmade) banana to prove God's existence.

302 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:42:51am

re: #296 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Thats why it needs to be investigated. It needs to be clear what actually happened, but if true, then heads deserve to roll.

A very loud AMEN!

303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:43:30am

L'shanah tovah tikatev v'taihatem.

Don't know what that means, but... Happy new year?

304 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:43:43am

Blatant, ugly race baiting from Rush Limbaugh:

His claims about the bus incident have already been proven false. There was no racial motivation behind it.

But he's using it to whip up racial animus. It's nauseating.

I expect some people to see nothing wrong with this, of course.

305 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:44:09am

re: #299 JamesTKirk

Russia to Deploy Second Topol-M Regiment in 2009

Are we back to Fiddler on the Roof?

Yes, because Something Funny Happened On The Way To The Forum.

306 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:44:13am
The Topol-M can be stored either in a silo hardened against a potential nuclear strike or on a mobile launcher designed to travel off-road (ITAR-Tass, Sept. 17).

ATVs with nuclear missiles. We are so screwed.

307 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:44:20am

re: #297 SanFranciscoZionist

Actually, that wasn't what the article found. It was about nurture, not nature, and I thought it raised some fascinating ideas.

I listened to the clip, and laughed. I went and read the article, and laughed even harder.

The ideas were interesting, but the headline and lede paragraph deserved mockery.

308 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:44:27am

re: #299 JamesTKirk

Russia to Deploy Second Topol-M Regiment in 2009

Are we back to Fiddler on the Roof?

I hope so -- I'd like to dream of being a young man again.

309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:44:46am
310 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:45:26am

re: #303 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

L'shanah tovah tikatev v'taihatem.

Don't know what that means, but... Happy new year?

Lake Titicaca, oh Lake Titicaca
It's between Bolivia and Peru...

311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:45:33am

re: #309 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I guess we are...

312 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:45:39am

My print run's done. Back to shuffling paper.

313 cliffster  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:46:07am

re: #293 Dianna

I think what you said - "...most people who aren't obsessively following the internet..." is an important point. There is clearly an ugly fight in the blogosphere and if this is what you are living and breathing, then it looks like a huge deal. But the average person who's trying to squeeze in a trip to the grocery store, or out throwing the football around with their son, doesn't really care.

314 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:46:15am

re: #307 Dianna

I listened to the clip, and laughed. I went and read the article, and laughed even harder.

The ideas were interesting, but the headline and lede paragraph deserved mockery.

I thought what they said about children noticing racial difference the way they notice gender difference, but not having it explained to them in the same way was very interesting. I think the researchers are right, there's a sense of taboo about it.

315 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:47:24am

re: #314 SanFranciscoZionist

I thought what they said about children noticing racial difference the way they notice gender difference, but not having it explained to them in the same way was very interesting. I think the researchers are right, there's a sense of taboo about it.

However, my reaction to pulling my copy out of the mailbox and seeing the cute baby with "IS YOUR BABY RACIST?" blazoned over it was to say "Nooo! What a cutie!"

316 cliffster  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:47:54am

re: #304 Charles

Geez. That's just plain stupid.

317 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:47:57am

re: #312 Dianna

My print run's done. Back to shuffling paper.

Giving "spread sheet" a new, or an old, meaning?

/was I trying too hard?

318 drogheda  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:48:59am

re: #277 Dianna

What? The response to Newsweek saying that all children are born racist?

Is this the Newsweek article to which you are referring?

Even Babies Discriminate

I thought it was an interesting read. Especially the part about how children can not only learn from what their parents talk to them about but from what their parents don't talk about.

319 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:49:44am

It's curious to see a multi-millionaire like Rush Limbaugh casting himself and his listeners as victims.

320 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:50:44am
321 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:53:57am
322 drogheda  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:54:38am

re: #320 jaunte

It appears the article I linked in my #318 is the one that upset Rush.

323 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:55:20am

re: #318 drogheda

Is this the Newsweek article to which you are referring?

Even Babies Discriminate

I thought it was an interesting read. Especially the part about how children can not only learn from what their parents talk to them about but from what their parents don't talk about.

I agree. This article doesn't even remotely say that all children are born racists. It's a report on an interesting investigation into how children acquire prejudiced beliefs.

324 What, me worry?  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:56:09am

re: #67 reine.de.tout

They just got pissed over the VB thing. That's when it started really. Slander and ridicule followed, anything to try to discredit him. I'm glad many of these folks were banned. Lots of bullies anyway.

325 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:56:53am

re: #321 buzzsawmonkey

I don't know which of his claims have been "proven false," how, or by whom.

The sherriff who investigated the incident said there did not appear to be a racial motivation behind it.

It would not surprise me if the bus incident was at least partially racially motivated.

But it wasn't.

326 fizzlogic  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:57:33am

re: #323 Charles

It's like the articles on global warming. Crack researchers on the Right, like Rush Limbaugh, only read the headlines. :)

327 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:58:01am

re: #322 drogheda

It appears the article I linked in my #318 is the one that upset Rush.

I don't think he read the article. I think the headline upset him.

328 wrenchwench  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:58:29am

re: #326 trendsurfer

It's like the articles on global warming. Crack researchers on the Right, like Rush Limbaugh, only read the headlines. :)

GMTA

329 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:00:20am

re: #313 cliffster

If they knew, they'd care, and reassure a lot of people.

330 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:02:08am

re: #318 drogheda

Is this the Newsweek article to which you are referring?

Even Babies Discriminate

I thought it was an interesting read. Especially the part about how children can not only learn from what their parents talk to them about but from what their parents don't talk about.

Repeat: I thought the article was interesting. I thought, however, that the headline and lede needed mocking.

331 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:02:37am

With two of my children there was a teaching moment that came. There was a moment in time when they noticed that the color of their skin was different than a child they were playing with. I realized it was what I said that mattered--they had just noticed the genuine difference.

I explained that God made us all different and that they were exactly the way God wanted them, and it was all good and didn't really matter.

The other two kids? Wouldn't notice if their shoes were on fire. I think we've gotten it across anyway.

332 What, me worry?  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:02:41am

re: #85 Charles

Geez that is such BULLSHIT. These people who admittedly say they know nothing of the history or the feud seem to have no problem spreading around lies about it, do they.

No, Charles DID NOT attack those "other" blogs. They attacked HIM after he said something seemed fishy with the whole Vlaams Belang thing. In the beginning, he just asked questions and then everyone jumped down his throat until all hell broke lose.

333 OldLineTexan  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:07:43am

re: #291 SanFranciscoZionist

I once had to write a sample paper for some students. They were writing about the Aztecs, so I wrote a sample essay about religious life in an ancient culture. I didn't want to risk writing anything they could try to plagiarize, so I wrote about a culture called the Fruitzaks who lived in Central America and worshipped a god called Bananarama by beating their victims to death with bunches of bananas.

God help up, they plagiarized anyway. And on the test, at least two kids said that the Aztecs sacrified people by killing them with bananas.

Mouthward-curving bananas, or the evil kind?

/

334 Dianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:08:58am

re: #323 Charles

I agree. This article doesn't even remotely say that all children are born racists. It's a report on an interesting investigation into how children acquire prejudiced beliefs.

Sarcasm, irony and cynical mockery are no longer allowed?

335 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:09:19am

And in other news...

If this kid doesn't get an invite to throw out a first pitch at a game, someone in Philly needs their head examined.

336 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:09:44am

re: #335 bofhell

[Link: mlb.mlb.com...]

[Helps to include the link BEFORE clicking "Post"]

337 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:17:02am
338 J.S.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:19:58am

re: #325 Charles

Anderson Cooper last night played that idiot Limbaugh's take on the bus incident...Anderson Cooper also noted: "The police now say it's just purely a case of bullying. Initially one officer speculated that race may have played a role in it. That officer has now backed off that statement." from CNN transcripts...

339 Joshua Cohen  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:21:56am

re: #274 bofhell

But back to my original question. Or a variation thereof.

Does anyone NOT like the iPhone?

*rise hand*

Why should I?
Closed soft- AND hardware...DRM for anything...not tough enough...

340 Tigger2005  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:25:18am

I've said it before & I'll say it again...anyone who wants to know what REAL political conservatism is, needs to read two speeches by Ronald Reagan: his 1964 speech on behalf of Barry Goldwater ("A Time for Choosing") and his speech ca. 1972 to the Conservative Political Action Committee. There is hardly a mention of religion in either of these speeches, except brief references to Moses and Jesus at the end of the Goldwater speech.

They are ALL about capitalism, freedom, personal responsibility, and a strong military to deter those who don't like these things.

341 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:25:25am

re: #339 Joshua Cohen

*rise hand*

Why should I?
Closed soft- AND hardware...DRM for anything...not tough enough...

I think they've pulled the DRM off of ITMS, but I use Amazon anyhow.

342 Joshua Cohen  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:35:57am

re: #341 bofhell

I think they've pulled the DRM off of ITMS, but I use Amazon anyhow.

Maybe.
I do not care. Apple and esp. the iPhone is a no need. Their products just have a high style factor.
Mostly just their 3rd generations are acceptable in quality and so on.

I am no beta tester, and I will not pay to be one.

Btw.: even if we build emergency or off the grid communication equipment sometimes - I just own a simple mobile. It can be used for phoning and short messaging. Thats all...no camera(would not be allowed @work either)...no colored screen...and it goes off automatically @22:30 every day.
I allow myself the luxury of not being reachable at all times.

343 Creeping Eruption  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 11:36:33am

re: #74 Dark_Falcon

I live and work in Illinois, not Virginia.

Got it. sorry.

344 Greengolem64  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 12:24:38pm

re: #8 Charles

That's it? No long dramatic post? Blah.

Charles, you need to keep a gallery of these posts for those of us who don't get on enough to be there 'real time' to see them before deleting them.

The Best of the Bouncers, or Flouncing's Finest!

345 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 12:37:04pm

re: #337 buzzsawmonkey

Got it. You're going to believe it was racially motivated, no matter what.

346 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 12:45:20pm
347 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 1:00:35pm

re: #346 buzzsawmonkey

The only thing which distinguishes this incident from thousands of others is that it caught the attention of a news outlet.


That and the timing.


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When the Air Becomes the EnemyIn March we barely knew how COVID-19 spread. We ran with a number of assumptions. And we got spanked. By the virus. What we humans got right or wrong is for another Page. As I write this the United States ...
Rightwingconspirator
4 days, 15 hours ago
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