Dan Riehl’s Imaginary Black Kid Beatdown

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Right wing blogger Dan Riehl takes a ride on the DC Metro after the tea party protest, and lapses into a reverie about putting a serious beatdown on some black children: Riehl World View: A 9/12 Experience: Dangerous Times.

Riding out of DC on the Metro, 9/12, there were some folks from South Dakota and also another Mid-West state I can’t recall in the same Metro car. We were talking, nothing special, really - politics, of course.

In the back were maybe ten or so black kids taking up that section of the car. There was no confrontation, just one or two of them talking loudly enough to make sure they’d be heard.

Without resorting to the poor diction it was along the lines of, these are the people who think Obama is the anti-Christ. That McCain he wasn’t chit. Obama’s going to be president as long as he wants, so these people better get used to it, etc. It went on but not really to a level that was so loud, or so confrontational that it needed to be addressed.

We just ignored them without much trouble at all.

Yeah, they were technically thugs. But the reality was they were still wannabes really, pretty young, not that big, or many. And if the several adults there for 9/12 actually needed to do something about it, the kids wouldn’t have lasted very long. Maybe if they were bigger, or more numerous, it might have been worse. Or it may not have happened at all. Who knows?

Now there’s true courage. If those black kids had tried something, Dan Riehl was ready. Man, he would have shown them.

Of course, they didn’t try anything. But the potential for serious violence was in the air! He could tell by their “poor diction.”

Oh no. That’s not racist at all.

Meanwhile, because I posted a comment about this ridiculous Riehl revenge fantasy in the middle of a long thread about something else entirely, he came up with another classic bit of paranoia:

For the first time in over 5 years I had to close a comment thread as the comments were so ugly. They’re deleted now. The post was linked by several lib blogs, so I assumed it was them.

Probably libs, but of the neo-charles johnson variety. Someone just emailed me the link where charles linked it. It’s funny, as they were mostly mimicking his comments now that I’ve read them. Seems his remaining lizards are now bees, just a hive of little drones. Or, maybe they were all him. He certainly doesn’t throw traffic anything like he once did. I saw that coming in but never put it together.

What a sad commentary. lgf, ugliest blog on the Internets. As I told the emailer, “Whatever it is, he’s now riding in circles in a very, very ugly place, somewhere within a state of misery. Not much to do but pity him and otherwise ignore him, I guess”.

Yes, Dan! I mobilized my vast army of flying monkeys to send you hate mail — and cleverly hid my intentions by not posting the instructions!

Or maybe … it was all me!

Because, you know, I have nothing better to do with my time than to compose dozens of authentic-sounding hate mails to the brave, black-kid-beating Dan Riehl, and thousands of comments that look as if they were written by real people. All for you, Dan. That’s just how evil I am.

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1 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:05:53pm

To the tune of “Foggy Mountain Breakdown”

2 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:07:52pm

I am still just blown away by the petty, childish, self-inflating quality of this post.

3 SpaceJesus  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:07:53pm

those little punks. im gonna blog about them when i get home.

4 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:08:54pm

It’s those 2 million tea bags. [Do you think they are filled with tiny little tea leaves?]

5 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:09:17pm

Can’t wait until we’re all the color of coffee with cream.

6 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:11:02pm

re: #5 Ojoe

Can’t wait until we’re all the color of coffee with cream.

It will solve some problems, but we’ll lose a lot of pretty looks for people that way.

7 ~Fianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:11:07pm

On the internet, he has a really large penis.

I’m sooo impressed.

8 Dad O' Blondes  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:11:40pm

Dan Riehl’s last contribution to the blogosphere, if I recall, was his foul-mouthed ridiculing of the evidently-murdered Natalee Holloway and his otherworldly speils trashing her family. Blogs which followed the story surmised Riehl was “compensated” by the Aruban government to do so.

He’s a bottom-of-the barrel clown.

Why is his name even mentioned here?

.

9 ~Fianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:12:04pm

re: #5 Ojoe

Can’t wait until we’re all the color of coffee with cream.

Me, either. Of course, then we’ll all worry about fingernail length or the size of the left big toe.

It sometimes really stinks that we’re tribal critters.

10 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:12:04pm

I also love his little gloat about how I’m not “throwing traffic.” The idiot didn’t even notice that my link was to Google’s cache.

11 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:13:29pm

Ooh-ooh.

12 iceweasel  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:14:53pm

re: #10 Charles

I also love his little gloat about how I’m not “throwing traffic.” The idiot didn’t even notice that my link was to Google’s cache.

Heh. Moar wish fulfillment, from the fertile mind of Dan Riehl.

That creepy, fertile mind where the crazy is always in bloom, and the neverending bullshit provides the best fertilizer.

13 Desert Dog  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:14:59pm

One day, while shopping at the local Fry’s Supermarket, a black man approached me and said these words:

“Excuse me, do you have the time?”

I answered, “uh, 3pm”

He said, “thank you”

Deep down though, he was thinking that Obama was the man and I was a powerless Honky that cannot stop him, even if I wanted too…

Luckily, that was the end of the conversation. It could have gotten much worse. For example, he could have said, “Nice weather, hot enough for you?” or “Do you know any good resturants around here” or something just as sinister.

I was glad to get out of Fry’s alive that day…it was quite harrowing.

/

14 quickslow87  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:15:06pm

Who’s Dan Riehl? I tried looking him up on Wikipedia but he wasn’t even listed except only in passing in the AutoAdmit entry.

15 SpaceJesus  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:16:13pm

let’s see, 10 young black men maybe from Anacostia against a couple dozen fat, white, middle-aged guys and cat ladies from Iowa. I think I know where my space money is on this fight.

16 cliffster  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:16:35pm

re: #7 ~Fianna

On the internet, he has a really large penis.

I’m sooo impressed.

And on craigslist too

17 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:17:53pm

re: #13 Desert Dog

One day, while shopping at the local Fry’s Supermarket, a black man approached me and said these words:

“Excuse me, do you have the time?”

I answered, “uh, 3pm”

He said, “thank you”

Deep down though, he was thinking that Obama was the man and I was a powerless Honky that cannot stop him, even if I wanted too…

Luckily, that was the end of the conversation. It could have gotten much worse. For example, he could have said, “Nice weather, hot enough for you?” or “Do you know any good resturants around here” or something just as sinister.

I was glad to get out of Fry’s alive that day…it was quite harrowing.

/

You ARE the man!

18 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:18:12pm

re: #5 Ojoe

Can’t wait until we’re all the color of coffee with cream.

Except for the green chicks, right? RIGHT?

19 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:18:53pm

re: #5 Ojoe

Can’t wait until we’re all the color of coffee with cream.

In bed…

20 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:19:21pm

People are goin nutz.

21 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:19:56pm

re: #15 SpaceJesus

let’s see, 10 young black men maybe from Anacostia against a couple dozen fat, white, middle-aged guys and cat ladies from Iowa. I think I know where my space money is on this fight.

How do you know they fat? Assumption, much?

22 Danny  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:20:15pm

Bzzz-bzzz-bzzz.

Hey Dan Riehl…blow me.

23 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:20:19pm

re: #18 JamesTKirk

Except for the green chicks, right? RIGHT?

The green chicks will be the color of SPACE coffee with cream.

24 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:20:20pm
Seems his remaining lizards are now bees, just a hive of little drones.


Some of us are africanized bees, Dan. Those are the really mean and dangerous ones. You could Google it.

25 What, me worry?  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:20:23pm

re: #14 quickslow87

Who’s Dan Riehl? I tried looking him up on Wikipedia but he wasn’t even listed except only in passing in the AutoAdmit entry.

I think he’s a guy who thinks if he bashes LGF in a post, he’ll pick up a few extra clicks. It’s all the rage these days, ya know.

26 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:20:26pm

ARE

27 Danny  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:20:50pm

re: #3 SpaceJesus

those little punks. im gonna blog about them when i get home.

You have a blog?

28 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:21:47pm

re: #25 marjoriemoon

I think he’s a guy who thinks if he bashes LGF in a post, he’ll pick up a few extra clicks. It’s all the rage these days, ya know.

And then I spoil it by linking to Google’s cache.

Evil, I am.

29 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:21:53pm
30 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:22:11pm

re: #23 SanFranciscoZionist

The green chicks will be the color of SPACE coffee with cream.

…space cream.

31 Coracle  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:22:57pm

re: #29 taxfreekiller

one of ms tfk’s buds called just now to say Nancy Pelosi’s house in some Student Loan bill added a cut off of ACORN money, any ones seen any thing on that. Seems odd the D’s would allow that.

It passed with a rather large margin.

32 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:23:55pm

re: #29 taxfreekiller

one of ms tfk’s buds called just now to say Nancy Pelosi’s house in some Student Loan bill added a cut off of ACORN money, any ones seen any thing on that. Seems odd the D’s would allow that.

[Link: biggovernment.com…]

33 iceweasel  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:24:02pm

re: #24 jaunte

Some of us are africanized bees, Dan. Those are the really mean and dangerous ones. You could Google it.

It’s the africanized bees that are all threatening him on the Metro and menacing him by talking loudly about their enfranchisement. Not only that, but their buzzing displays poor diction— not like those nice Europeanised honeybees.

34 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:24:09pm
35 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:24:49pm

re: #29 taxfreekiller
House votes to de-fund ACORN

36 Coracle  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:25:08pm

re: #34 taxfreekiller

D.C. gets stranger by the hour.

But by all means. Blow them out. They’re rotten, to a one. And replace them with…


( )

Profit!

37 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:25:14pm

This craziness is just not sustainable. The conspiracy theories and bad information are one thing but the racism just can’t work. Conservatives can’t retreat back to the 1950’s of segregation and anti-communist paranoia. It’s just not an option.

38 ~Fianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:25:38pm

re: #16 cliffster

And on craigslist too

*rofl* Good point.

On the internet, every man is a stud with a giant schlong and every woman is a member of the Swedish bikini team.

39 Gus  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:25:39pm

Right. He blogs about some imaginary encounter involving black kids and turns it into a rant about “living in dangerous” times” replete with race-fear innuendo and we’re the crazy blog.

He describes a group in the back of the train yet and says that there was “no confrontation, just one or two of them talking loudly enough to make sure they’d be heard.” Got that? Just one or two. He conflates this “encounter” based on the loud talking of one, or is that two, individuals. Yet he went so far as to call then “thugs” and created an imaginary scenario in which if they “actually needed to do something about it, the kids wouldn’t have lasted very long.” Oh, but if they were bigger or more numerous it could have been worse. Worse than the loud talking of a couple of kids.

You ride mass transit that’s standard operating procedure. Considering the signs we’ve seen I would say this alleged encounter was rather pleasant. The kids weren’t too far off either, some of them do believe that Obama is “antichrist.”

Dangerous times. Give me a break.

40 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:25:52pm

re: #14 quickslow87

Who’s Dan Riehl? I tried looking him up on Wikipedia but he wasn’t even listed except only in passing in the AutoAdmit entry.

I have no clue who he is, but if he gets his own thread then I guess he’s for Riehl.

41 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:26:01pm

re: #26 MandyManners

Careful with the “bad diction”, Mandy. Riehl might just blog about he could totally take you in a fight. If he had to. Which he doesn’t. But if he did…
/

You’d probably wipe the floor with him.

42 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:26:17pm

re: #33 iceweasel

The missing piece of the story is what his political conversation was about before the kids in the bus overheard, and started their own.

43 SpaceJesus  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:26:21pm

re: #21 MandyManners

How do you know they fat? Assumption, much?

um, have you seen the tea party pictures much?

44 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:26:36pm

Oh, Riehl… Imaginary… I get it!

(Seems a little irrational to me.)

45 ~Fianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:27:03pm

re: #20 FrogMarch

People are goin nutz.

Going? It seems like they went past nuts, took a left into insane and then just kept going.

Is there a set of metric prefixes for crazy? It would make it easier to keep track if there were.

/giganuts? megabonkers?

46 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:27:13pm
47 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:27:16pm

re: #37 Killgore Trout

This craziness is just not sustainable. The conspiracy theories and bad information are one thing but the racism just can’t work. Conservatives can’t retreat back to the 1950’s of segregation and anti-communist paranoia. It’s just not an option.

Who said the majority of conservatives want to do that?

48 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:27:16pm

re: #42 jaunte

The missing piece of the story is what his political conversation was about before the kids in the bus overheard, and started their own.

Or they were carrying signs or wearing buttons/t-shirts with who-knows-what written on them.

49 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:27:22pm

Part of the fantasy violence based community.

50 ~Fianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:27:56pm

re: #22 Danny

Bzzz-bzzz-bzzz.

Hey Dan Riehl…blow me.

Think of what you’re asking for man. The cause is just, but no one expects that from you!

51 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:28:33pm

re: #43 SpaceJesus

um, have you seen the tea party pictures much?

Strange how you would gravitate toward noticing that. Is that how you evaluate people, based on their looks?

52 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:29:22pm

Flounce!

53 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:29:24pm

re: #41 Slumbering Behemoth

Careful with the “bad diction”, Mandy. Riehl might just blog about he could totally take you in a fight. If he had to. Which he doesn’t. But if he did…
/

You’d probably wipe the floor with him.

I’m a lover, not a fighter.

54 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:29:35pm

Forget the Swine Flu, this country’s in the midst of a serious epidemic of the Stupid Flu.

55 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:29:39pm

re: #53 MandyManners

I’m a lover, not a fighter.

…

56 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:29:54pm

re: #53 MandyManners

*melt*

57 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:30:09pm

re: #42 jaunte

The missing piece of the story is what his political conversation was about before the kids in the bus overheard, and started their own.

And, doesn’t that weenie get the point that in the public forum, we’re all free to express our opinions?

58 ~Fianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:30:32pm

re: #41 Slumbering Behemoth

Careful with the “bad diction”, Mandy. Riehl might just blog about he could totally take you in a fight. If he had to. Which he doesn’t. But if he did…
/

You’d probably wipe the floor with him.

Holy crap, think of how much money someone could charge for that.

Except then everyone would know that we’re all secretly Charles.

59 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:30:46pm

Charles -

Off the subject, what gives with the “Man Made Plague” up around Fresno? Water for FISH, not for Farmers? Just wondering.

-S-

60 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:30:57pm

Charles, you are one evil son of a bitch. But to cop to the whole thing right there on your front page… well, that takes balls.

Slantje!

/must I?

61 Desert Dog  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:31:05pm

re: #39 Gus 802

Right. He blogs about some imaginary encounter involving black kids and turns it into a rant about “living in dangerous” times” replete with race-fear innuendo and we’re the crazy blog.

He describes a group in the back of the train yet and says that there was “no confrontation, just one or two of them talking loudly enough to make sure they’d be heard.” Got that? Just one or two. He conflates this “encounter” based on the loud talking of one, or is that two, individuals. Yet he went so far as to call then “thugs” and created an imaginary scenario in which if they “actually needed to do something about it, the kids wouldn’t have lasted very long.” Oh, but if they were bigger or more numerous it could have been worse. Worse than the loud talking of a couple of kids.

You ride mass transit that’s standard operating procedure. Considering the signs we’ve seen I would say this alleged encounter was rather pleasant. The kids weren’t too far off either, some of them do believe that Obama is “antichrist.”

Dangerous times. Give me a break.

Those kids probably laughed their asses off afterwards too.

Sounds like someone needs to get some more black friends, or perhaps A black friend?

62 funky chicken  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:31:16pm

re: #8 Dad O’ Blondes

Dan Riehl’s last contribution to the blogosphere, if I recall, was his foul-mouthed ridiculing of the evidently-murdered Natalee Holloway and his otherworldly speils trashing her family. Blogs which followed the story surmised Riehl was “compensated” by the Aruban government to do so.

He’s a bottom-of-the barrel clown.

Why is his name even mentioned here?

.

really? jeez…I don’t remember that at all. disgusting behavior, to be sure.

63 SpaceJesus  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:31:16pm

re: #51 MandyManners

Strange how you would gravitate toward noticing that. Is that how you evaluate people, based on their looks?

i’m talking about a hypothetical fight, not a beauty or personality contest.

64 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:31:32pm

re: #53 MandyManners

I’m a lover, not a fighter.

In bed.

I know which of the two I’d prefer…

Indeed.

heh.

65 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:31:34pm

re: #53 MandyManners

I’m a lover, not a fighter.

*pinch*

66 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:31:44pm

re: #37 Killgore Trout

This craziness is just not sustainable. The conspiracy theories and bad information are one thing but the racism just can’t work. Conservatives can’t retreat back to the 1950’s of segregation and anti-communist paranoia. It’s just not an option.

Not exactly sure what segregation and anti-Communism have to do with each other… but I guess “forget it, he’s rolling.”

67 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:32:00pm

re: #63 SpaceJesus

i’m talking about a hypothetical fight, not a beauty or personality contest.

Well, color me corrected.

68 ~Fianna  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:32:22pm

re: #52 Charles

Flounce!

Damn, that was fast.

How much time do the losers spend grepping your site waiting for you to say something flounce worthy?

Is that becoming some sort of new “FIRST!!!” thing in right-nut circles? Extra points if you flounce for the cause in

69 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:32:23pm

Okay. I walked into it.

70 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:32:44pm

re: #64 Salamantis

re: #53 MandyManners
I’m a lover, not a fighter.

In bed.

I know which of the two I’d prefer…

A little of both?

71 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:32:46pm

I’m outta’ here for a while.

72 Desert Dog  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:33:13pm

re: #70 JamesTKirk

A little of both?

It’s better to fight a lover than love a fighter

73 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:33:28pm

re: #71 MandyManners

I’m outta’ here for a while.

Me, too. I might actually get some work done.

74 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:33:32pm

re: #52 Charles

Flounce!

The Hoopster grabs a guitar…Paul grabs a mike..The lights dim..

Yesterday..
All my Flounces seemed so far away
Now It looks like I’m no longer to stay
Oh I how believe in Yesterday

Suddenly..I’m not half the poster I used to be
Stinky’s stick is swinging over me
Yesterday came suddenly

Why I had to go
I’m not going to say
I said something wrong
Now I long for Yesterday

Yesterday.. Posting was such an easy game to play..
Now I need a place to hide away
Oh I believe In Yesterday…

75 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:33:45pm

re: #72 Desert Dog

It’s better to fight a lover than love a fighter

“Have you ever had a warrior woman?” -Wash, Firefly

76 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:33:45pm

re: #57 MandyManners

And, doesn’t that weenie get the point that in the public forum, we’re all free to express our opinions?

I wonder if he defended Joe Wilson’s right to shout at the President during an address?

77 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:34:12pm

re: #59 Dr. Shalit

It’s fucking stupid, that’s what it is.

The cutbacks are an enormous setback to thousands of Central Valley farmers, and will likely raise prices on a wide variety of crops. California is the nation’s No. 1 farm state in terms of the value of the crops produced, which stands at more than $36 billion a year.

The Central Valley, a fertile but arid region spanning roughly 500 miles from Bakersfield to Redding, produces over half of the fruit, vegetables and nuts grown in the United States and is California’s agricultural heartland.

The main source of water for the valley’s farms and ranches is the federally built and managed CVP, a large network of dams, pumping stations and canals that collects runoff from the nearby Sierra Nevada mountain range and delivers it to regional irrigation districts.

One recent forecast compiled economists at the University of California projected 60,000 to 80,000 job losses and over $2 billion in lost income from a scenario such as the one announced Friday.

Some famous folk like Gary Sinise and Paul Rodriguez have openly protested against this decision.

78 Desert Dog  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:34:34pm

re: #75 JamesTKirk

“Have you ever had a warrior woman?” -Wash, Firefly

I’ve been meaning to take that trip to the land the Amazons, but Mrs. Desert Dog will not let me.

79 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:35:01pm

re: #76 jaunte

I wonder if he defended Joe Wilson’s right to shout at the President during an address?

He’s probably as proud of him as Sadr was of the shoe-thrower.

80 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:36:02pm

Okay. So, who’s this Dan Reihl guy, now?

81 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:36:32pm

re: #77 Slumbering Behemoth

It’s fucking stupid, that’s what it is.

Some famous folk like Gary Sinise and Paul Rodriguez have openly protested against this decision.

Slumbering Behemoth -

Gov. Schwartznegger - Call up the CA National Guard - AND - TURN ON THE WATER!

-S-

82 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:38:16pm

Ah Charles I live in a city where gangs are rampant and two teenagers were burred last week in a fight involving guns and Machetes 5 minutes from my house.

DC is known as a tough crime area, maybe 20 or 30 years ago a person has the luxury of assuming that kids are just kids, but today you don’t know if kids are armed or not. If people are talking trash trying to provoke a reaction you can ignore them, but to expect people to not have the possibilities of trouble in the back of their head and what to do about it is unrealistic. Particularly if you are you have a bunch of guys in a strange town.

You live on the west coast where I hear there are gang issues, perhaps you don’t have those worries in your neighborhood and if so I’m glad for you.

Do you remember Way back 8 years ago what you said in this post.

I know that not all Muslims are terrorists. I know it’s wrong to blame an entire culture for the actions of an insane few.

But reading over what I wrote in April gave me a very creepy feeling.

The link to the April post doesn’t work and I can’t find any of the archived posts but I remember reading it way back when (Is it really 8 years that I’ve been reading you? Gawd I’m getting old) and I recall you seeing something odd and that is your local Mosque.

Remembering that and given the violence situation in DC I’d be a little more circumspect in jumping to the “Beating up black kids fantasy” meme.

83 Gus  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:38:28pm

I’m still trying to figure out this “hate email” concept. I never wrote one in my life.

84 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:38:50pm

re: #81 Dr. Shalit

People need food. Food needs farmers. Farmers need water.

It’s not algebra. The people running my state really piss me off.

85 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:39:11pm

re: #82 Pingemi

Look out. They’re coming to get you.

86 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:39:32pm

re: #84 Slumbering Behemoth

People need food. Food needs farmers. Farmers need water.

It’s not algebra. The people running my state really piss me off.

Must math invade every thread?!?

87 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:39:44pm

re: #80 Noam Sayin’

Okay. So, who’s this Dan Reihl guy, now?

He discovered a new kind of ‘lib’; what he calls the ‘neo-charles johnson’ variety. Maybe he watched The Matrix too many times.

88 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:42:38pm

re: #82 Pingemi

And yes, I do remember what I wrote in that post. It was following an incident in which someone pantomimed firing a gun at me. After coming out of a mosque that was subsequently linked to the 9/11 hijackers.

But don’t let reality get in the way of your excuses.

89 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:44:17pm

re: #85 Charles

With respect Charles one of the dead kids in my town went to my son’s school and was a grade ahead of them. I have drugs being sold a street away and have had murders less that 200 yards from my front door.

Given that I think I have a legitimate perspective on this.

You are rightly known as a foe of Radical Islam and not I suspect an unknown person locally. If your local Mosque was more radical than it is how comfortable would you be on the bike going by? Would you not be ready for trouble? Have you not had legitimate threats over your defense of Israel etc? Do you not take them seriously?

Given that I’d think you would be a little more charitable on the subject.

90 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:45:03pm

re: #66 Dar ul Harb

Not exactly sure what segregation and anti-Communism have to do with each other… but I guess “forget it, he’s rolling.”

Why are we still talking about the Birch Society, Moonies and racists in conservative politics? This is 2008 and we’re seeing a resurgence of ideologies that were discarded decades ago.

91 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:45:12pm
Probably libs, but of the neo-charles johnson variety.

This guy sucks at neologisms.

92 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:45:36pm

Gotta love it. “Black kids should automatically be suspect! What’s wrong with you?!”

93 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:45:49pm

re: #82 Pingemi

Pingemi -

I had a Machete since I was about 18 years old. Great for clearing out “brush” when hiking in a forest. Beyond that, usage is determined by upbringing and attitude.

-S-

94 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:46:20pm

re: #83 Gus 802

I’m still trying to figure out this “hate email” concept. I never wrote one in my life.

Dear Gus802,
You stink.
Kindest Regards,
Killgore
/I write them all the time
;)

95 Desert Dog  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:46:40pm

re: #77 Slumbering Behemoth

It’s fucking stupid, that’s what it is.

Some famous folk like Gary Sinise and Paul Rodriguez have openly protested against this decision.

California’s Water Crisis

Arizona and Nevada are in big trouble as well…the mighty Colorado is getting too low.

96 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:46:48pm

re: #94 Killgore Trout

Dear Gus802,
You stink.
Kindest Regards,
Killgore
/I write them all the time
;)

Ssshhh!

97 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:47:03pm

re: #18 JamesTKirk

Vulcan green with honky pink equals ???


ROFLMAO

98 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:47:11pm

re: #57 MandyManners

And, doesn’t that weenie get the point that in the public forum, we’re all free to express our opinions?

He and his friends “express their opinions”.

Black teens doing the same are “thugs”.

I’m pretty sure that’s how this guy operates.

Actually, I may be painting him more of a bigot than he is. My admittedly speculative guess is that he rarely takes public transit, or is in contact with urban teenagers. My guess is that he was scared, and is now blowing this up into a significant racial confrontation rather than examine the fact that he was just afraid of these boys.

99 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:47:18pm

re: #91 Sharmuta

This guy sucks at neologisms.

I don’t know, I’d say that going by Websters #2 definition, he is nailing it.

/yes I had to look it up.

100 shug  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:47:46pm

never heard of reihl.

101 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:47:59pm

re: #96 Charles

Heh.

102 shug  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:48:02pm

or Riehl

see what I mean

103 Gus  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:48:04pm

re: #89 Pingemi

Charitable? You’re comparing gang slayings to a bunch of young men “talking loudly” on a train? So that equals gang slayings in your mind? A daytime ride on the DC train is the same as drug dealers being executed on the streets?

I don’t see the comparison.

104 Kronocide  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:48:32pm

re: #83 Gus 802

Dear Gussy Pants,

You are a mendacious libel blogger groupie.
Have a Nice DAY!!!

Regards,
A Real American Patriot

105 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:48:49pm

re: #84 Slumbering Behemoth

People need food. Food needs farmers. Farmers need water.

It’s not algebra. The people running my state really piss me off.

Slumbering Behemoth -

More or less - IT IS ALGEBRA - like a+b=c. Problem is the law is TRYING to Make it into CALCULUS - WHY?

-S-

106 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:49:14pm

re: #75 JamesTKirk

“Have you ever had a warrior woman?” -Wash, Firefly

“We’re very private people.”

—His wife, to the same interrogator, minutes earlier

107 shug  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:49:23pm
if the several adults there for 9/12 actually needed to do something about it, the kids wouldn’t have lasted very long

My money is on the kids.

108 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:49:35pm

re: #104 BigPapa

Dear Gussy Pants,

You are a mendacious libel blogger groupie.
Have a Nice DAY!!!

Regards,
A Real American Patriot

Can you work neo-charles in there somewhere?

109 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:49:57pm

re: #89 Pingemi

With respect Charles one of the dead kids in my town went to my son’s school and was a grade ahead of them. I have drugs being sold a street away and have had murders less that 200 yards from my front door.

Given that I think I have a legitimate perspective on this.

You are rightly known as a foe of Radical Islam and not I suspect an unknown person locally. If your local Mosque was more radical than it is how comfortable would you be on the bike going by? Would you not be ready for trouble? Have you not had legitimate threats over your defense of Israel etc? Do you not take them seriously?

Given that I’d think you would be a little more charitable on the subject.

What the hell are you trying to say? Spill it..
You aren’t the only person who has lived in a tough area…Whoops..I mean hood…Tell us more please…

110 shug  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:50:07pm

God what a fucking disgisting vile essay.

absolutely turns my stomach.

reihl, go Fuck yourself

—aah that felt good

111 Kronocide  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:50:36pm

re: #99 Slumbering Behemoth

I don’t know, I’d say that going by Websters #2 definition, he is nailing it.

/yes I had to look it up.

I just figured it out: I’m a neologist! Splains everything.

112 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:50:40pm
113 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:50:49pm

re: #82 Pingemi

Ah Charles I live in a city where gangs are rampant and two teenagers were burred last week in a fight involving guns and Machetes 5 minutes from my house.

DC is known as a tough crime area, maybe 20 or 30 years ago a person has the luxury of assuming that kids are just kids, but today you don’t know if kids are armed or not. If people are talking trash trying to provoke a reaction you can ignore them, but to expect people to not have the possibilities of trouble in the back of their head and what to do about it is unrealistic. Particularly if you are you have a bunch of guys in a strange town.

You live on the west coast where I hear there are gang issues, perhaps you don’t have those worries in your neighborhood and if so I’m glad for you.

Do you remember Way back 8 years ago what you said in this post.


The link to the April post doesn’t work and I can’t find any of the archived posts but I remember reading it way back when (Is it really 8 years that I’ve been reading you? Gawd I’m getting old) and I recall you seeing something odd and that is your local Mosque.

Remembering that and given the violence situation in DC I’d be a little more circumspect in jumping to the “Beating up black kids fantasy” meme.

I work and ride the bus daily in Richmond, CA, and I’m a woman. This guy, based on his own account, is a total weenie.

114 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:50:59pm

Hate posts, not so much.

But I’ve written broken-hearted poems; does that count?

The Lesson

I used to think I couldn’t cry
But thanks to you
I now know that’s not true.
Unlike you
I cannot twist on spigot tears
At the drop of a convenience
But when my tears do fall
They’re deeply felt
And truly meant.


To a Lost Hope

I’m sorry.
I sincerely apologize for
So rudely falling in love with you.
But please believe me when I say
That I didn’t mean it personally.
I’ll still be your friend
I can’t help but be
All you’ll let me be for you
And flash my brittle smile
At the appropriate moments.
You’ll know that it’s fake
And that inside I’m dying.
We know each other far too
Well for successful pretense.
Just please give me points for trying.
I wish you both the very best.
I can’t help wishing you the best
In all you do, say or choose
But (forgive my eyes for crying) I shall
Ever and always believe
That the best for you
Was me.

Sal: But that was long ago; I’m okay now…kinda…
*sniffle*
/

115 What, me worry?  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:51:31pm

re: #82 Pingemi

That’s a lot of horse pucky.

If you live in a large Metro city (I live in Miami) this kind of thing always exists at any city event. That would be rallies, protests as well as concerts or festivals.

Along the same lines, someone said something in the other thread I think, that if you have enough money, you drive to these events. No one drives to these events! There’s generally no parking. You park your car in a lot or a garage nearby and shuttle in.

So everyone takes mass transit for these events. In fact, you always see “unruly” young people when these things happen. And talking loud and showing off, which is what ALL young people do, is no big deal.

116 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:51:43pm

By the way, I ride by that same mosque quite often nowadays, and so far I haven’t seen any terrorists taking aim at me.

Maybe I’m just such a neo-me that I’m missing it.

117 Kronocide  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:52:05pm

re: #108 jaunte

Can you work neo-charles in there somewhere?

I got the sinister ‘libel blogger’ in there. How about ‘neo libel blogger?’

It’s hard to type without a Tourette’s style BWAHAHAHAHA outburst.

118 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:52:13pm

re: #105 Dr. Shalit

More or less - IT IS ALGEBRA - like a+b=c. Problem is the law is TRYING to Make it into CALCULUS - WHY?

Quite right, that is an apt description.

Why? Maybe they are sick of eating, and sick of California’s farmers feeding the nation.

They are definitely biting off the hands that feed them, us, and a lot of other people in this world. It doesn’t make a damn bit of sense.

119 Gus  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:53:09pm

re: #117 BigPapa

I got the sinister ‘libel blogger’ in there. How about ‘neo libel blogger?’

It’s hard to type without a Tourette’s style BWAHAHAHAHA outburst.

Neo-libel-blogger-shill-for the Soros-DNC moonbats!

//

120 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:53:14pm

re: #116 Charles

By the way, I ride by that same mosque quite often nowadays, and so far I haven’t seen any terrorists taking aim at me.

Maybe I’m just such a neo-me that I’m missing it.

“Abdul! Is that the hated infidel Charles Johnson?”
“No, Mohammed, cannot you see the ‘neo-’ on his nametag?”
“Ah, inshallah. Put the Stinger missile back inside until the real, original Charles Johnson rides by.”

121 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:53:50pm

re: #93 Dr. Shalit

I agree with the upbringing in the story I linked the fact that the kids were at a party at 4:30 a.m. speaks very ill of the parents.

This doesn’t change that given the situation and the kids actions being ready for trouble is not either illegitimate or a sign of racism. They may have been mistaken and the kids didn’t do more than talk but I’ve walked through violent neighborhoods late at night in unfamilar towns were fast food restaurants have armed guards with a teenage son at my side.

If I decided to not be cautious and aware because i didn’t want to offend people over their race then the more fool me.

There’s a big difference between looking for trouble and being ready for it.

122 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:54:06pm

re: #118 Slumbering Behemoth

Why? Maybe they are sick of eating, and sick of California’s farmers feeding the nation.

Who needs California, when DC is going to have its own farmer’s market right on Vermont Avenue in the middle of rush hour?

123 What, me worry?  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:55:00pm

re: #116 Charles

I really try not to waste your bandwidth with “LOLing”, but..


ROFLMFAO!!!

124 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:55:29pm

Oh, I love it.

* Main Entry: ne·ol·o·gism
* Pronunciation: nē-ˈä-lə-ˌji-zəm
* Function: noun
* Etymology: French néologisme, from ne- + log- + -isme -ism
* Date: 1803

1 : a new word, usage, or expression
2 : a meaningless word coined by a psychotic

125 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:56:26pm

I’ll share a nice thug story…
When I first moved to Chicago with my girlfriend we were on the L (train) all proud of ourselves for learning how to get around the city. At one of the stops a really huge thuggish looking guywalks over next to where she was sitting and holds the door until the train start to make that bing bing sound that the train’s ready to leave but something is obstructing the door. He puts his hand on my girlfreind’s shoulder and says, “excuse me, miss”. She looks up at him and he grabs the chain around her neck. The entire train froze. He said, “somebody’s going to grab that chain and run. If your head gets stuck in the door when the train pulls away, they still got your chain. Tuck it in or don’t sit near the door.” He let go and walked away.
Good advice.
P.S. Since we’re talking about race: I’m white, Girlfriend black, “thug” black.

126 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:56:53pm

re: #122 JamesTKirk

Bite your tongue! We Californians have the best crop soil in the nation, and we ain’t afraid to use it!

/our legislators on the other hand…

127 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:56:54pm

re: #121 Pingemi

I agree with the upbringing in the story I linked the fact that the kids were at a party at 4:30 a.m. speaks very ill of the parents.

This doesn’t change that given the situation and the kids actions being ready for trouble is not either illegitimate or a sign of racism. They may have been mistaken and the kids didn’t do more than talk but I’ve walked through violent neighborhoods late at night in unfamilar towns were fast food restaurants have armed guards with a teenage son at my side.

If I decided to not be cautious and aware because i didn’t want to offend people over their race then the more fool me.

There’s a big difference between looking for trouble and being ready for it.

There’s a big difference between being ready for trouble, and acting as though you were in danger when you clearly were not.

128 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:58:14pm

re: #126 Slumbering Behemoth

Bite your tongue! We Californians have the best crop soil in the nation, and we ain’t afraid to use it!

/our legislators on the other hand…

“We’ve got dirt and we’re not afraid to use it!”

/at least with your legislators there’s no shortage of fertilizer…

129 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:58:20pm
130 Coracle  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:58:58pm

re: #129 Chest_Rockwell

Ciao

131 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:59:18pm

re: #122 JamesTKirk

Who needs California, when DC is going to have its own farmer’s market right on Vermont Avenue in the middle of rush hour?

I saw that on one of the local station feeds and thought it just HAD to be wrong.

There is a nice farm stand on Route 7 in Virginia, a couple miles before Tyson’s Corner. I should try it.

132 Gus  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:59:28pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

Nice.

133 Desert Dog  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:59:43pm

re: #126 Slumbering Behemoth

Bite your tongue! We Californians have the best crop soil in the nation, and we ain’t afraid to use it!

/our legislators on the other hand…

They provide the fertilizer

134 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:59:47pm

re: #128 JamesTKirk

/at least with your legislators there’s no shortage of fertilizer…

Sadly, not an ounce of it is worth a…

135 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 6:59:52pm

Flounce!

136 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:00:19pm

That one flashed petticoats!

137 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:00:35pm

The flouncers are coming fast and furious!

138 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:00:55pm

re: #116 Charles

Charles all I am saying is that attributing their feeling to racism is not only a leap but is uncharitable and a game changer.

Consider this sentence:


Riding out of DC on the Metro, 9/12, there were some folks from South Dakota and also another Mid-West state I can’t recall in the same Metro car. We were talking, nothing special, really - politics, of course.

I suspect these people have very little experience in a rough neighborhood and the ability to tell what is a threat and what is not. Maybe they were wrong, or foolish or overreacting. I’m more than willing to stipulate that.

To leap to the conclusion that these people are racist and looking to beat black kids, that’s just not right.

139 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:01:07pm
Seems his remaining lizards are now bees, just a hive of little drones.

It’s interesting this little talking point keeps popping up. That we Lizards are somehow mindless rubes waiting for marching orders. I think what’s really going on here is jealousy. LGF has one of the most intelligent comment sections of any blog. That LGF would appeal to the intelligent, and we would desire to comment here. It’s not enough to smear Charles, they have to further it by smearing his audience, because if word got out LGF was the place for intelligent debate- people might come look and see for themselves, only to discover it’s true.

140 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:01:18pm

re: #116 Charles

By the way, I ride by that same mosque quite often nowadays, and so far I haven’t seen any terrorists taking aim at me.

Maybe I’m just such a neo-me that I’m missing it.

Charles -

Riding By - Does Not Equal - Picketing. I “put” Public Employees (Teachers) on an “Informational” Picket Line in 1980. We dotted our “I’s” and crossed our “T’s” - all participants did it on their Lunch Hour. We got our message across, AND heard the Board might move for an injunction. Ex-Wife and I advised them of what/how we were doing. Got back to the Mayor and we settled soon thereafter.
Picketing draws attention. “Our” Mayor was friendly and powerful. Doubt highly you would have the same reaction from the Mosque.

-S-

141 jhrhv  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:01:18pm

I went to concert last night. There were a lot of people there. Several thousand of them had on similar looking tee shirts and glasses. I could see many them talking and laughing even while the band was playing. I knew they had it in for me and my strange looking blue pullover. I didn’t feel safe until I made it back to my friends Acura and we had safely exited the parking establishment.

/

142 cliffster  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:01:34pm

good grief, there are a lot of people with too much time on their hands

Youtube Video
143 bofhell  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:02:37pm

re: #128 JamesTKirk

By the way, those Warp 5 engines should be here any day now.

[Link: feedproxy.google.com…]

[Static test of the new Aries solid rocket booster. Nothing like a couple million horsepower to light up your day…]

144 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:03:26pm

re: #138 Pingemi

To leap to the conclusion that these people are racist and looking to beat black kids, that’s just not right.

Hey, never mind that he wrote those very words:

And if the several adults there for 9/12 actually needed to do something about it, the kids wouldn’t have lasted very long.

145 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:03:27pm

Today is my birthday (I won’t say my age). But I’m not really a materialistic type, so when my wife asked what I wanted for a gift, I just wanted to go out for a nice meal (which we did).

But what I really want is a world where my two sons (19 and 16) are not judged by their religion, skin color, or political beliefs. I also hope that when they have kids, their taxes are not so high that they can’t give their kids the kind of lives that they have. And I’d really like them to live in a world where they have friends of all ethnicities and races who only care whether they’re a good person or not.

146 dwells38  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:03:56pm

What’s kinda funny about this too is this Riehl guy’s description of what the kids said:

“Without resorting to the poor diction it was along the lines of, these are the people who think Obama is the anti-Christ. That McCain he wasn’t chit.”

Pretty astute for hoodlums. They understood that the protesters are mostly not racist but just whacked out thinking Obama’s the anti-christ. I would have expected inner city thugs (albeit wannabes) to be playing it wide and loose and referring to them as racist honkeys.

Maybe that’s what ticked him off the most. That they referred to something I’m pretty sure was actually on a few of those signs and actually is absurd.

147 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:04:10pm

re: #141 jhrhv

Yeah, but if they got threatening, and you really needed to do something about it, the crowd would not have lasted long against your blue pullover, I am sure.

148 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:04:15pm

re: #135 Charles

Flounce!

Stinky just upped our aggregate karma points with that one.

149 What, me worry?  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:05:11pm

re: #125 Killgore Trout

Trout’s got the jungle fever :)

150 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:05:48pm

“Me and a couple of my friends got on the shuttlecraft to go down to the planet. We were talking, nothing special, really. We were all in matching red shirts.

In the front of the shuttle were maybe three officers, along with Captain Kirk. There was no confrontation, just one or two of them talking loudly enough to make sure they’d be heard. Giving ‘orders’ about the ‘mission’.

Without resorting to the poor diction and strange pauses between his words, it was clear that Kirk expected danger and threats, and kept looking at us. It went on but not really to a level that was so loud, or so confrontational that it needed to be addressed.

We just ignored them without much trouble at all…”

-The last log entry of Lieutenant Bixby, RIP on planet DeathTrap IV.

151 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:06:37pm

re: #146 dwells38

“That McCain he wasn’t chit.”


That sums up a lot of post-election analysis on the political right.

152 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:06:48pm

re: #127 SanFranciscoZionist

There’s a big difference between being ready for trouble, and acting as though you were in danger when you clearly were not.

Like the difference of having the time of your life on Van Ness or curled up in some corner on Castro Street?
There are lizards here that walk the streets of NY without a care…They own their lives..You embrace the world..Your Environment…You create your world…
This is what a measure of a human is…Your are a victor or a victim..
You measure your life and get back with us…May today find you well..

153 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:07:18pm

Rare. 150+ posts and not a spinoff, yet.

154 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:07:34pm

re: #152 HoosierHoops

Like the difference of having the time of your life on Van Ness or curled up in some corner on Castro Street?
There are lizards here that walk the streets of NY without a care…They own their lives..You embrace the world..Your Environment…You create your world…
This is what a measure of a human is…Your are a victor or a victim..
You measure your life and get back with us…May today find you well..

And watch what color shirt you wear.

155 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:07:50pm

re: #152 HoosierHoops

Like the difference of having the time of your life on Van Ness or curled up in some corner on Castro Street?
There are lizards here that walk the streets of NY without a care…They own their lives..You embrace the world..Your Environment…You create your world…
This is what a measure of a human is…Your are a victor or a victim..
You measure your life and get back with us…May today find you well..

Crap..That wasn’t addressed to you..To whom you were replying too!

156 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:09:41pm

This is what the kids said that really terrified Riehl, imo:

“Obama’s going to be president as long as he wants, so these people better get used to it…”

Of course even if he gets re-elected, there’s no way Obama could remain in office beyond Jan. 20th, 2017. But these folks live in mortal dread of a dictatorship-perpetuating coup by those people.

Fear, prejudice and paranoia are incestuous siblings.

157 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:10:10pm

re: #146 dwells38

dwells38 -

The “Anti-Christ” would have a better publicist than Axelrod. Pres. Obama is NOT the Anti-Christ. He has plenty of faults, as do I. Some of my policy formulations MIGHT be dangerous. I am NOT US President the last time I looked. He is. Go from there.

-S-

158 jhrhv  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:10:28pm

re: #147 Slumbering Behemoth

Yeah, but if they got threatening, and you really needed to do something about it, the crowd would not have lasted long against your blue pullover, I am sure.

When I feel threatened by many thousands while wearing my pullover I often arm myself with a root beer and cady floss.

159 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:10:30pm

re: #145 _RememberTonyC

Happy Birthday!

I hope all your wishes come true.
They sound pretty much like mine.

160 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:11:04pm

re: #150 JamesTKirk

“Me and a couple of my friends got on the shuttlecraft to go down to the planet. We were talking, nothing special, really. We were all in matching red shirts.

In the front of the shuttle were maybe three officers, along with Captain Kirk. There was no confrontation, just one or two of them talking loudly enough to make sure they’d be heard. Giving ‘orders’ about the ‘mission’.

Without resorting to the poor diction and strange pauses between his words, it was clear that Kirk expected danger and threats, and kept looking at us. It went on but not really to a level that was so loud, or so confrontational that it needed to be addressed.

We just ignored them without much trouble at all…”

-The last log entry of Lieutenant Bixby, RIP on planet DeathTrap IV.

The bad guys should be told that redshirted freshmen don’t get to die until next season…;~)

161 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:11:32pm

re: #159 J.D.

Happy Birthday!

I hope all your wishes come true.
They sound pretty much like mine.

Thanks JD … the world is a better place wherever Lizards hang out!

162 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:12:13pm

re: #149 marjoriemoon

Trout’s got the jungle fever :)

No secret about that!
;)

163 VioletTiger  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:12:33pm

re: #145 _RememberTonyC
Happy Birthday!

164 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:13:10pm

I don’t have a clue who this Reihle is, but on the other hand,
if I’m sitting on a bus minding my own business and a bunch of loud youts said to me “Obama is going to be President for as long as he wants, and you better get used to it”, should I feel just a teensy bit threatened?

165 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:13:25pm

re: #163 VioletTiger

Happy Birthday!

Thanks VT :)

166 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:14:08pm

re: #144 Charles

I read those word and I repeat, there is a big difference between looking for trouble and being ready for it if it comes.

Might they have been wrong about the level of threat? Sure, inexperience to a situation will do that. Were the kids having them on a bit? Highly likely.

If instead of black kids they were white or Spanish or adults who were drunk or heavily tattooed I suspect the very same words would have been written.

Once you decide however that someone is a racist and publicly call someone that it changes everything, you are marking someone with a Scarlett letter.

I can’t see doing that on the basis of that blog post and considering the seriousness of the charge I just don’t think it’s right.

167 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:14:27pm

I’m still curious about this part of his post…

Some of the potential racial narratives that may still play out during his presidency might not be that pretty at all.

I wonder what he speculating about. I don’t read him often enough to know what he might be alluding to there.

168 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:14:34pm

re: #164 Spare O’Lake

I don’t have a clue who this Reihle is, but on the other hand,
if I’m sitting on a bus minding my own business and a bunch of loud youts said to me “Obama is going to be President for as long as he wants, and you better get used to it”, should I feel just a teensy bit threatened?

Only by our educational system.

169 dwells38  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:15:09pm

re: #150 JamesTKirk

OMG! This guy is blogging about politics by plaigerizing Star Trek books for easy content! Doris Kearns Goodwin’s got nothing on this guy.

Gene Rodenberry must be rolling over in his grave.

170 Flyers1974  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:15:35pm

re: #164 Spare O’Lake

I don’t have a clue who this Reihle is, but on the other hand,
if I’m sitting on a bus minding my own business and a bunch of loud youts said to me “Obama is going to be President for as long as he wants, and you better get used to it”, should I feel just a teensy bit threatened?

How would these people know you (or the men in the story) were anti-Obama in the first place?

171 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:16:52pm

re: #170 Flyers1974

How would these people know you (or the men in the story) were anti-Obama in the first place?

Probably the signs. And the Revolutionary-Era clothes. And the conversation.

172 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:17:02pm

re: #165 _RememberTonyC

Thanks VT :)

Happy Birthday! My Birthday is Monday..

173 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:17:09pm

re: #170 Flyers1974

How would these people know you (or the men in the story) were anti-Obama in the first place?

perhaps the white robes and pointy hats were a clue?

/

174 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:18:07pm
In the back were maybe ten or so black kids taking up that section of the car. There was no confrontation, just one or two of them talking loudly enough to make sure they’d be heard.

This happens on mass transit all the time. Sometimes in groups as small as two. I’ve even seen one person be loud on mass transit with the help of their cell phone. Am I supposed to be threatened now by loud talkers on mass transit?

Oh God- people are talking loudly on the bus!!1! Dey r gunna git meh!

175 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:18:22pm

re: #170 Flyers1974

How would these people know you (or the men in the story) were anti-Obama in the first place?

How indeed.

176 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:18:28pm

re: #172 HoosierHoops

Happy Birthday! My Birthday is Monday..

Awesome, Hoosier … Congratulations! And thanks for your always kind words and good wishes!

177 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:18:33pm

re: #173 _RememberTonyC

Happy Birthday to both of you and many more.

178 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:18:52pm

re: #164 Spare O’Lake

No- you should laugh at the ignorance.

179 What, me worry?  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:19:27pm

re: #164 Spare O’Lake

I don’t have a clue who this Reihle is, but on the other hand,
if I’m sitting on a bus minding my own business and a bunch of loud youts said to me “Obama is going to be President for as long as he wants, and you better get used to it”, should I feel just a teensy bit threatened?

Seems to me that the utes were the ones really feeling threatened. They just came back from a rally and saw Obama as Hitler, Obama in white face, sign after sign of blatant racism. It’s their town and they love this guy. Maybe they were trying to “puff up their feathers” as it were in case someone wanted to start with them?

I don’t think that statement you quoted was directed at any one person in particular.

There’s lots of ways to diffuse this kind of situation, but it would take a level headed thinking adult to do so. Seems like Mr. Riehl and his pals were short on that.

180 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:19:41pm

re: #178 Sharmuta

you should laugh at the ignorance.

I try, I really do… But there’s just so much of it, and I only have so many hours in the day…

181 Jimmah  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:19:46pm
Without resorting to the poor diction it was along the lines of, these are the people who think Obama is the anti-Christ.

Sounds like these lads called it just about right. Hence Riehl’s throbbing butthurt.

182 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:19:56pm

re: #177 Pingemi

Happy Birthday to both of you and many more.

Thanks Pingemi … appreciate the kind thoughts

183 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:20:10pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

I’m still curious about this part of his post…

I wonder what he speculating about. I don’t read him often enough to know what he might be alluding to there.

Reparations?

184 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:20:35pm

re: #181 Jimmah

Hence Riehl’s throbbing butthurt.

No, to get that in DC you want to go to Dupont Circle.

185 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:21:04pm

re: #176 _RememberTonyC

Happy Birthday, RTC.

186 wee fury  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:21:25pm

Power Walking in a mall can be dangerous. An elderly couple were in front of me — I said “on your left.” They ignored me. I said it again, “on your left.” They ignored me. As I passed them, with inches to spare from scraping the wall — I said, “when someone says ‘on your left’ that means that they are going to pass on your left and you should move to the right.”
The elderly man then screeched at me “I don’t need you to tell me what to do, smarta** I’ll take you outside and clean your clock!”
Moral: Beware elderly people with canes.

187 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:21:33pm

re: #185 Sharmuta

Happy Birthday, RTC.

Thanks Sharm :)

188 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:22:34pm

And I agree Tony C was really something, his Brother was ok too.

189 Coracle  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:23:22pm

re: #186 wee fury

Power Walking in a mall can be dangerous. An elderly couple were in front of me — I said “on your left.” They ignored me. I said it again, “on your left.” They ignored me. As I passed them, with inches to spare from scraping the wall — I said, “when someone says ‘on your left’ that means that they are going to pass on your left and you should move to the right.”
The elderly man then screeched at me “I don’t need you to tell me what to do, smarta** I’ll take you outside and clean your clock!”
Moral: Beware elderly people with canes.

He just thought you were trying to pick a political fight.
“On your left? Ha! I’ll give you an on your left! Young lefty punk!”

190 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:23:51pm

re: #188 Pingemi

And I agree Tony C was really something, his Brother was ok too.

Right you are. There will never be another Tony C … especially for us Boston kids who grew up in the 1960s and 1970s.

191 wee fury  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:23:53pm

re: #189 Coracle

LOL

192 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:23:56pm

re: #174 Sharmuta

This happens on mass transit all the time. Sometimes in groups as small as two. I’ve even seen one person be loud on mass transit with the help of their cell phone. Am I supposed to be threatened now by loud talkers on mass transit?

Oh God- people are talking loudly on the bus!!1! Dey r gunna git meh!

Don’t avoid the question, please.
What if the group is 10 and they are talking loudly to you, telling you that “you better get used to it”?
My there are a lot of very brave people here.

193 dwells38  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:24:18pm

re: #151 jaunte

Yes I almost added to the end of that comment: I’m sure the McCain jabs didn’t bother the protesters at all.

I too thought he ran a horrible campaign in general. I actually think he wanted to lose and was relieved at the end.

I do appreciate his service and personal sacrifice for our country though.

194 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:25:01pm

re: #183 Sharmuta

Reparations?


Could be, I hadn’t thought of that.

195 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:25:14pm

re: #192 Spare O’Lake

Don’t avoid the question, please.
What if the group is 10 and they are talking loudly to you, telling you that “you better get used to it”?
My there are a lot of very brave people here.

Or just a lot of people who’ve been through plenty worse without pitching a hissy fit.

196 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:26:03pm

re: #1 Dar ul Harb

To the tune of “Foggy Mountain Breakdown”

Take it back. That was un-called for.

197 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:26:10pm

You know what? If I were on that metro car, and it came to a showdown between the (presumably illegally “carrying”) adults and the trash-talkin’ kidz…

…well, guess whose side I’d be on?

198 dwells38  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:26:26pm

re: #186 wee fury

Next time carry mace and have 911 on speed dial. Take your country back!! Er…at least the mall.

199 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:26:34pm

re: #192 Spare O’Lake

The argument remains moot, if it’s still “something coulda’ happened.”
Nothing did.

200 Coracle  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:27:00pm

re: #197 Cato the Elder

You know what? If I were on that metro car, and it came to a showdown between the (presumably illegally “carrying”) adults and the trash-talkin’ kidz…

…well, guess whose side I’d be on?

The outside of that bus. That’s where I’d be.

201 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:27:39pm

re: #190 _RememberTonyC

Have you ever been to Mighty Subs in Needham, absolutely heavenly. So good some guys opened a blog on it.

202 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:28:09pm

re: #200 Coracle

The outside of that bus. That’s where I’d be.

But once you’re there…u hafta tchoos…

203 Gus  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:28:21pm

re: #167 Killgore Trout

I’m still curious about this part of his post…

I wonder what he speculating about. I don’t read him often enough to know what he might be alluding to there.

Remember how that bunch was predicting riots if Obama wins or loses? Those didn’t pan out. I think it’s rather simple. They’re paranoid of African-Americans. They seem to want to cast them now as being something that they are not such as this piece by Riehl. If anything from my experience — I actually don’t live in some old stone Citadel — it’s the other way around.

204 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:28:35pm

re: #192 Spare O’Lake

Let me get this straight-

Kids on the train saying Obama is going to be President as long as he likes and we better get used to it is a threat, but guys talking guns to political events while holding signs about watering the tree of liberty- they’re just exercising their 2nd Amendment rights.

But I should worry about the kids. Mkay.

205 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:28:36pm

re: #186 wee fury

What an ass. It’s rare that people offer the courtesy you did.

I had a young guy on a bike do that (“On your left”) not long ago. I was so shocked by the consideration that I almost forgot what to do.

206 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:28:48pm

ot: China’s “cancer villages” bear witness to economic boom.

And at some point, those rivers run into the sea. Fish anyone?

207 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:29:23pm

re: #204 Sharmuta

Should be “taking” and not “talking”. PIMF

208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:29:45pm

re: #206 FrogMarch

And at some point, those rivers run into the sea. Fish anyone?

No thanks.

209 Coracle  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:30:00pm

re: #202 Cato the Elder

But once you’re there…u hafta tchoos…

I’d frankly find the group with the signs a little more off putting. Riding metro with them on the 12h myself, with my kids was not exactly a neutral experience.

210 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:30:04pm

re: #201 Pingemi

Have you ever been to Mighty Subs in Needham, absolutely heavenly. So good some guys opened a blog on it.

Never have … I live in Connecticut now. But my son’s GF lives in Newton, so maybe I’ll suggest it for next summer when they’re hanging out. I’m a D’Angelos guy myself … the “number 9” is as good as any Philly cheese steak I’ve had in the “215.” The very first D’Angelos was in my hometown of Brockton … I’ve been hooked since the late ‘60’s!

211 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:30:24pm

re: #206 FrogMarch

ot: China’s “cancer villages” bear witness to economic boom.

And at some point, those rivers run into the sea. Fish anyone?

Be sure to check the ‘country of origin’ designation when you buy farmed fish and shrimp. This is why.

212 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:30:40pm

re: #206 FrogMarch

Tipper Gore was right. Heavy metal kills.

213 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:30:44pm

re: #176 _RememberTonyC

Awesome, Hoosier … Congratulations! And thanks for your always kind words and good wishes!

*wink*
There can’t be anything worse in the whole world trying to act all tough and shit and a girl asks what your sign is…mmm…I’m a Virgo…
Can’t I be one of those Bull dudes?
Virgo
A wicked Crap?
Virgo
Some Sag a something terrus thinging?
Virgo
Cancer? At least let me be the angel of darkness..Something cool sounding scarey sign
Virgo
A libra?
There is not justice in this world
I’m a dang Virgo…
You got a problem with that?
I do…LOL

214 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:31:00pm

तत् त्वम् असि

215 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:31:29pm

re: #197 Cato the Elder

You know what? If I were on that metro car, and it came to a showdown between the (presumably illegally “carrying”) adults and the trash-talkin’ kidz…

…well, guess whose side I’d be on?

You’d be on the side of the road.

216 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:31:31pm

re: #210 _RememberTonyC

Had an authentic “Philly Cheese Steak” one time.

Seriously? Cheese Whiz?

217 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:32:00pm

re: #212 JamesTKirk

Tipper Gore was right. Heavy metal kills.

DIE!
/

218 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:32:09pm

If you want to piss off a Virgo- leave the cap off the toothpaste. {Hoops}

219 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:32:18pm

re: #215 Spare O’Lake

whatevs

220 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:32:19pm

re: #213 HoosierHoops

*wink*
There can’t be anything worse in the whole world trying to act all tough and shit and a girl asks what your sign is…mmm…I’m a Virgo…
Can’t I be one of those Bull dudes?
Virgo
A wicked Crap?
Virgo
Some Sag a something terrus thinging?
Virgo
Cancer? At least let me be the angel of darkness..Something cool sounding scarey sign
Virgo
A libra?
There is not justice in this world
I’m a dang Virgo…
You got a problem with that?
I do…LOL


Some chicks like guys as pure as the driven snow :)

221 Desert Dog  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:32:21pm

re: #206 FrogMarch

ot: China’s “cancer villages” bear witness to economic boom.

And at some point, those rivers run into the sea. Fish anyone?

EPA, what’s the EPA?

222 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:32:43pm

re: #74 HoosierHoops

Hoosing Hoopski man! How is the dribbling?

223 Coracle  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:32:57pm

re: #220 _RememberTonyC

Some chicks like guys as pure as the driven snow :)

Such creatures exist?

224 VioletTiger  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:32:59pm

re: #206 FrogMarch

An incredible shame. They are destroying some beautiful lands and killing their own people with pollution.

225 wee fury  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:33:04pm

re: #214 Cato the Elder

Good for you!

226 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:33:04pm

re: #217 Slumbering Behemoth

Youtube Video
227 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:33:20pm

re: #216 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Had an authentic “Philly Cheese Steak” one time.

Seriously? Cheese Whiz?

I’ve had Geno’s, Pat’s, and Oregon’s cheese steaks … none are as good as D’Angelo’s number 9!

228 Van Helsing  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:33:26pm

re: #206 FrogMarch

ot: China’s “cancer villages” bear witness to economic boom.

And at some point, those rivers run into the sea. Fish anyone?

History is an important subject for everyone - Minimata

229 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:33:28pm

re: #218 Sharmuta

Wait. There’s supposed to be a cap on toothpaste? Who knew?
/

230 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:33:52pm
Youtube Video
231 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:33:52pm

I miss D’Angelo’s.

232 Desert Dog  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:34:24pm

re: #223 Coracle

Such creatures exist?

Yes, but only in your dreams…here in the real world, we are cavemen without the manners ;-)

233 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:34:25pm

re: #223 Coracle

Such creatures exist?

until they reach the age of 16 :)

234 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:34:26pm

re: #210 _RememberTonyC

If you ever head up check them out and check the blog link. If you are coming up on a weekend or after 4 (odd hours that sub shop) there is always Linguini’s Italian Eatery on Route 20 in Marlborough. Absolutely fantastic.

I would encourage any reader traveling through the area to try either one, good food, lots of it and easy on the pocket book.

(and no I don’t get royalties)

235 VioletTiger  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:34:33pm

re: #218 Sharmuta

If you want to piss off a Virgo- leave the cap off the toothpaste. {Hoops}

Yep. Married to one! His b-day is tomorrow.

236 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:34:56pm

re: #229 Slumbering Behemoth

Wait. There’s supposed to be a cap on toothpaste? Who knew?
/

The cap is for traveling only. Toothpaste does not squeeze itself.

And besides, if you let the top o’ the paste harden overnight, it’s a better dentifrice.

237 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:35:20pm

re: #206 FrogMarch

ot: China’s “cancer villages” bear witness to economic boom.

And at some point, those rivers run into the sea. Fish anyone?

Death rates from cancer rose 19 percent in cities and 23 percent in rural areas in 2006, compared to 2005, according to official Chinese media, although they did not give exact figures.

I knew this situation in China was bad, but I didn’t realize it was that bad.

238 cliffster  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:35:32pm

re: #192 Spare O’Lake

Don’t avoid the question, please.
What if the group is 10 and they are talking loudly to you, telling you that “you better get used to it”?
My there are a lot of very brave people here.

Communication is 80% non-verbal. So you can at best relay 20% of the situation here..

239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:36:37pm

re: #237 J.D.

I knew this situation in China was bad, but I didn’t realize it was that bad.

You have the advantage of the revenue and the population control!
/

240 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:36:58pm

re: #228 Van Helsing

History is an important subject for everyone - Minimata


From 1932 to 1968, Chisso Corporation, a company located in
Kumamoto Japan, dumped an estimated 27 tons of mercury compounds
into Minamata Bay.

/Lovely.

241 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:37:14pm

re: #222 Boris Badenov

Hoosing Hoopski man! How is the dribbling?


Well Hello…
Natasha called me on the cell today and asked me to tell you to back off…
The fake Russian accent is getting old…
Don’t hate the messenger

242 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:37:37pm

re: #227 _RememberTonyC

I would take their Chicken Cutlet with lettuce mayo onions and Cheese.

Be aware the sub in the picture are smalls. Their large subs are 22” long so you won’t finish it in one setting.

243 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:37:43pm

Maybe it’s different up there. I have hustled pool (drinks or dollars) in ‘the Blocks’ (Pensacola Florida’s black downtown) where I was the only white face in the bar, and never had a problem.

People were eager to pay up when they lost, just so they could play me again and try to figure out how I was doing it.

244 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:38:17pm

re: #241 HoosierHoops

Well Hello…
Natasha called me on the cell today and asked me to tell you to back off…
The fake Russian accent is getting old…
Don’t hate the messenger

Natasha the miniskirted soldier girl?

I think I dated her once.

Once.

245 Desert Dog  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:39:12pm

re: #243 Salamantis

Maybe it’s different up there. I have hustled pool (drinks or dollars) in ‘the Blocks’ (Pensacola Florida’s black downtown) where I was the only white face in the bar, and never had a problem.

People were eager to pay up when they lost, just so they could play me again and try to figure out how I was doing it.

Fast Sal Felson…I can see it

246 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:40:09pm

re: #239 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You have the advantage of the revenue and the population control!
/

Whatta deal!
/

247 dwells38  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:40:59pm

re: #230 Killgore Trout

Such a poignant and timeless love

248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:41:00pm

re: #246 J.D.

Whatta deal!
/

Whatta Country…

249 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:41:01pm

re: #221 Desert Dog

EPA, what’s the EPA?

The state run industry doesn’t exactly police itself. Tons of corruption in China.

250 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:41:09pm

re: #204 Sharmuta

Let me get this straight-

Kids on the train saying Obama is going to be President as long as he likes and we better get used to it is a threat, but guys talking guns to political events while holding signs about watering the tree of liberty- they’re just exercising their 2nd Amendment rights.

But I should worry about the kids. Mkay.

Guns at political events is of course much worse, but is besides the point.
I would feel uncomfortable being told that I better get used to anything, but that’s just me.

251 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:41:13pm

re: #192 Spare O’Lake

Don’t avoid the question, please.
What if the group is 10 and they are talking loudly to you, telling you that “you better get used to it”?
My there are a lot of very brave people here.

Why, I’d go home, terrified, and immediately write a blog post about how I would have beaten those little creeps to within an inch of their lives, of course!

252 iceweasel  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:41:32pm

re: #164 Spare O’Lake

I don’t have a clue who this Reihle is, but on the other hand,
if I’m sitting on a bus minding my own business and a bunch of loud youts said to me “Obama is going to be President for as long as he wants, and you better get used to it”, should I feel just a teensy bit threatened?

No, you shouldn’t.

Not unless you’re threatened by black people, or a black president, or the idea of a president remaining in office for his full term, despite assassination rhetoric, attempts at portraying him as a kenyan usurper, and mutterings about ‘taking our country back’ from people who don’t seem to understand that in a democracy, sometimes the other guy wins.

253 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:41:34pm

re: #241 HoosierHoops

Natasha would never do that, malchik. You must be inhaling goof gas!

254 Flyers1974  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:41:41pm

re: #171 Salamantis

Probably the signs. And the Revolutionary-Era clothes. And the conversation.

Not sure if you were joking about the signs, but now that you mention it, it is possible these guys brought their signs home with them - which no doubt would be a tip-off. Absent that, Diehl says these kids were in the back of the car, which would be pointless for him to mention if he was in the back as well. I guess the car could have been very quiet and thus the converstaion he was having was overheard. Its also interesting that the metro wasn’t packed, what with the normal Saturday passengers and the protesters. Maybe they hung out in DC until midnight or something and then got on the metro.

255 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:42:04pm

re: #244 Cato the Elder

Natasha the miniskirted soldier girl?

I think I dated her once.

Once.

Hi Cato!
Oh Boris come out to play…You insulted me a couple of weeks ago…
I don’t want to fight.I just want to make sure everybody laughs at you tonight..Oh Boris..Come on out big boy…

256 Desert Dog  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:42:14pm

re: #249 FrogMarch

The state run industry doesn’t exactly police itself. Tons of corruption in China.

OSHA? We don’t need no stinkin’ OSHA!

257 jhrhv  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:42:24pm

My nephew from Brooklyn (in his second year at an expensive collage) posted this on his facebook page ”n it smells like fresh kush n new dollaz, in a blue palace dat shine like shoe polish, honest, i put dis on ya mommas, u get ill u get killed i promise, den its ta da bahamas, me, da credit card and da pradas, natural born rydaz, dats why dey rap about us”

If the kids on that train were talking like this I doubt they could have even been understood.

258 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:42:40pm

re: #248 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Whatta Country…

Are we ever lucky or what?

259 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:42:42pm

re: #250 Spare O’Lake

Guns at political events is of course much worse, but is besides the point.
I would feel uncomfortable being told that I better get used to anything, but that’s just me.

It’s kids talking smack on a train! For crying out loud- get a handle on some perspective here.

260 Flyers1974  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:44:04pm

re: #216 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Had an authentic “Philly Cheese Steak” one time.

Seriously? Cheese Whiz?

Cheese Whiz, or in an emergency, Velveeta.

261 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:44:13pm

re: #257 jhrhv

My nephew from Brooklyn (in his second year at an expensive collage) posted this on his facebook page ”n it smells like fresh kush n new dollaz, in a blue palace dat shine like shoe polish, honest, i put dis on ya mommas, u get ill u get killed i promise, den its ta da bahamas, me, da credit card and da pradas, natural born rydaz, dats why dey rap about us”

If the kids on that train were talking like this I doubt they could have even been understood.

u hav my simpafee

262 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:44:13pm

re: #255 HoosierHoops

I am not “big boy”. I am Средний маленький человек от средней маленькой страны!

263 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:44:19pm

re: #254 Flyers1974

Not sure if you were joking about the signs, but now that you mention it, it is possible these guys brought their signs home with them - which no doubt would be a tip-off. Absent that, Diehl says these kids were in the back of the car, which would be pointless for him to mention if he was in the back as well. I guess the car could have been very quiet and thus the converstaion he was having was overheard. Its also interesting that the metro wasn’t packed, what with the normal Saturday passengers and the protesters. five million people who attended the protest. Maybe they hung out in DC until midnight or something and then got on the metro.

FTFY

264 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:44:25pm

re: #244 Cato the Elder

Natasha the miniskirted soldier girl?

I think I dated her once.

Once.

Doesn’t she have some… extra equipment under that skirt? ‘Cause that’s a real game changer.

265 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:44:42pm

re: #262 Boris Badenov

I am not “big boy”. I am Средни&# x0439; малень&# x043A;ий челове&# x043A; от средне&# x0439; малень&# x043A;ой страны!

Too bad you can’t figure out how to do Cyrillic on LGF…

266 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:45:24pm

Ah, crap this comment field don’t like Cyrillic. Well, then I say it in roman letters, a mean little man from a mean little country!

267 Gella  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:45:26pm

re: #262 Boris Badenov

I am not “big boy”. I am Средни&# x0439; малень&# x043A;ий челове&# x043A; от средне&# x0439; малень&# x043A;ой страны!

LOL

268 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:45:34pm

re: #262 Boris Badenov

I am not “big boy”. I am Средни&# x0439; малень&# x043A;ий челове&# x043A; от средне&# x0439; малень&# x043A;ой страны!

Well that’s for each man to decide for himself..We won’t judge you

269 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:45:37pm

re: #257 jhrhv

My nephew from Brooklyn (in his second year at an expensive collage) posted this on his facebook page ”n it smells like fresh kush n new dollaz, in a blue palace dat shine like shoe polish, honest, i put dis on ya mommas, u get ill u get killed i promise, den its ta da bahamas, me, da credit card and da pradas, natural born rydaz, dats why dey rap about us”

If the kids on that train were talking like this I doubt they could have even been understood.

Stewardess… I speak Jive.

270 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:47:13pm

re: #245 Desert Dog

Fast Sal Felson…I can see it

Actually, folks around town started calling me the Weasel, because they said I had a talent for weaseling out of the stickiest situations on the table, and still finding a way to win…;~)

271 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:48:48pm

re: #238 cliffster

Communication is 80% non-verbal. So you can at best relay 20% of the situation here..

Fair enough, but please tell that to the chorus who jump in lockstep to the other conclusion, and downding me for being honest.

272 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:49:15pm

re: #270 Salamantis

Actually, folks around town started calling me the Weasel, because they said I had a talent for weaseling out of the stickiest situations on the table, and still finding a way to win…;~)

And if you couldn’t, you’d ice ‘em.

I think I just revealed a sockpuppet sitch.

273 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:49:30pm

Not to put to fine a point on it, and I know I will get flamed for this, but reading BS like this, doesn’t Carter have a point?

It’s not that *everyone* who is opposed to Obama is racist, but that there is a vocal racist contingent among them.

274 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:49:52pm

I am not “big boy”.
I am Средний маленький человек от средней маленькой страны!

275 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:49:53pm

I am beginning to think Mr. Riehl must have run into some of these guys.

Fictional Characters.

276 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:50:04pm

Well DUH - Like Gee -

Folks of ANY Color can be racists, given the right circumstances. Wrong and Stupid to be sure, and still there - something that still needs working on.

-S-

Afterthought - When stuff like this comes up, I look at Melech - The Wonder Shepherd. Melech is a Dog, He gets along with other Dogs - some bigger, most smaller with No Problem. Near as I can see, “Breeds” of Dogs, by eye, seem to vary more than Humans, and, within Humans, by eye, we seem to vary more by gender than by color. Real, or just my “lying eyes” - Might Melech and Rodney King just have it right?

-S-

277 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:51:21pm

g’night Lizards … and Happy New year to our “Judeo-Lizards.”

278 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:51:21pm

re: #273 austin_blue

Not to put to fine a point on it, and I know I will get flamed for this, but reading BS like this, doesn’t Carter have a point?

It’s not that *everyone* who is opposed to Obama is racist, but that there is a vocal racist contingent among them.

Ack! “too fine a point on it”

PIMF

279 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:51:44pm

re: #272 Cato the Elder

And if you couldn’t, you’d ice ‘em.

I think I just revealed a sockpuppet sitch.

Naah…she downdings me on the AGW threads. And I’m a guy.

280 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:51:49pm

re: #273 austin_blue

Not to put to fine a point on it, and I know I will get flamed for this, but reading BS like this, doesn’t Carter have a point?

It’s not that *everyone* who is opposed to Obama is racist, but that there is a vocal racist contingent among them.

There are vocal racists on both sides and in various points between, Carter included. He’s an asshat without a point.

281 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:51:50pm

Night, Tony.

You don’t look a year older, btw.

282 dwells38  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:52:33pm

re: #259 Sharmuta

Hey Sharm you must cut this guy some slack. I remember once on the subway I was being heckled by a viscious thug. I couldn’t take it any more and I lashed out.

I tell you I kicked that midget right in the stomach…knocked him right off his crutches. I think I bent one of his leg-braces. Oh sure his seeing eye-dog was barking like crazy but I had just totally lost it.

This is what happens when a man is threatened.

283 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:52:47pm

re: #281 J.D.

Night, Tony.

You don’t look a year older, btw.

I’m the youngest person here since I technically haven’t been born yet.

284 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:52:49pm

re: #262 Boris Badenov

Boris -

AND - How is Natasha, Moose and Squirrel? Just Asking.

-S-

285 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:53:00pm

re: #275 Slumbering Behemoth

I am beginning to think Mr. Riehl must have run into some of these guys.

Fictional Characters.

I’d like to see him run into some Reavers.

Then I’d grant him he has a problem.

286 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:53:49pm

re: #275 Slumbering Behemoth

I am beginning to think Mr. Riehl must have run into some of these guys.

Fictional Characters.

Yeah- I’m starting to wonder how much dramatizing was done on this.

287 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:53:56pm

re: #275 Slumbering Behemoth

I am beginning to think Mr. Riehl must have run into some of these guys.

Fictional Characters.

Shooting out the walls of heartache, bang bang! I am the warrior.

288 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:55:45pm

re: #285 Cato the Elder

I’d like to see him run into some Reavers.

“If they take the ship, they’ll rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins into their clothing. And if we’re very, very lucky, they’ll do it in that order.”

289 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:55:53pm

re: #284 Dr. Shalit

Boris -

AND - How is Natasha, Moose and Squirrel? Just Asking.

-S-

Sarah shoot the Moose from a Helicopter and had it for a BBQ…
The Squirrel is in mourning…

290 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:56:04pm

re: #284 Dr. Shalit

Natasha is out buying vodka. Moose is in Alaska in his backyard, looking at Mother Russia. Squirrel is in popcorn popper. Got to close to Huckabee.

291 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:56:19pm

re: #285 Cato the Elder

Full series is on Hulu, in case you did not know.

292 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:57:10pm

What the Doctors Think [Larry Kudlow]

…IBD/TIPP found that 71 percent of physicians believe that government cannot cover 47 million more people without significant rationing of health care. And nearly half of the doctors polled say they would retire early if Congress passes the proposed overhaul.

IBD/TIPP surveyed nearly 1,400 physicians for its series. In written responses, doctors have pointed to lower pay, increased government mandates, and less freedom to practice as reasons for the physician shortage. In particular, Medicare and Medicaid, which essentially are running half of our health-care system, continue to pay below-market reimbursement rates that are putting doctors out of business.

Primary-care physicians are the worst off. The American Academy of Family physicians reports that primary-care doctors need a 30 percent pay raise in order to survive. They’re not going to get it under Obamacare, or Obamacare Lite. In fact, physician payments will move lower should any of the various House and Senate plans pass.

The Massachusetts Medical Society, operating in a state that has implemented a Washington-like universal-overage plan, reports that primary-care doctors are in short supply for a fourth straight year, that the percentage of primary-care practices closed to new patients is the highest ever recorded, and that seven of 18 specialties — dermatology, neurology, urology, vascular surgery, and obstetrics-gynecology, in addition to family and internal medicine — are all in short supply.

On top of all that, enrollment in medical schools is already declining. By some estimates, the nation will have 159,000 fewer doctors than it needs by 2025.

So what exactly are we supposed to do about this doctor shortage? The easy answer is to create incentives for new doctors. And for that matter nurses. And for that matter hospital space. We should expand and grow the entire free-market health-care system, which up until recently was America’s greatest growth industry.

But these government plans will do just the opposite. They will shrink private care and private insurance. They will reduce jobs. And they may well undermine American health and wellness.

Everyone should read the IBD series and consider the health-care debate from the standpoint of the doctors. That’s something that hasn’t been done yet. But it’s darn important.


71% is a substantial number.

293 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:57:41pm

re: #280 JamesTKirk

There are vocal racists on both sides and in various points between, Carter included. He’s an asshat without a point.

Umm…no. I think his point is valid. Think of the Obama witch doctor poster with a bone in his nose. Hard to reconcile that with reasonable political discourse. How would *you* justify the pictures and the rhetoric coming out of this event, Captain Kirk? Don’t give me excuses about “it’s all been done to Bush”. Justify these specific actions and tell me it’s OK.

294 TedStriker  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:57:48pm

re: #138 Pingemi

Charles all I am saying is that attributing their feeling to racism is not only a leap but is uncharitable and a game changer.

Consider this sentence:


I suspect these people have very little experience in a rough neighborhood and the ability to tell what is a threat and what is not. Maybe they were wrong, or foolish or overreacting. I’m more than willing to stipulate that.

To leap to the conclusion that these people are racist and looking to beat black kids, that’s just not right.

Sometimes, perception is reality and my perception is that Riehl is a bigoted creep…don’t trust me, read his own words and decide for yourself.

295 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:57:55pm

Manish Boy. By the awesome Muddy Waters.

Youtube Video
296 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:58:17pm

re: #290 Boris Badenov

Natasha is out buying vodka. Moose is in Alaska in his backyard, looking at Mother Russia. Squirrel is in popcorn popper. Got to close to Huckabee.

Boris -

Obviously Squirrel got TOO close. That is all.

-S-

297 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:59:19pm

re: #291 Slumbering Behemoth

Full series is on Hulu, in case you did not know.

I own it. It’s probably the only DVD I’ll ever actually wear out.

“…they’ll swing back to the belief that they can make…people…better. And I do not hold to that. So I aim to misbehave…”

Joss is geenius.

298 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 7:59:31pm

re: #252 iceweasel

No, you shouldn’t.

Not unless you’re threatened by black people, or a black president, or the idea of a president remaining in office for his full term, despite assassination rhetoric, attempts at portraying him as a kenyan usurper, and mutterings about ‘taking our country back’ from people who don’t seem to understand that in a democracy, sometimes the other guy wins.

Black, red, white or blue makes no difference.
What matters to me is that if I am sitting there minding my own business and a bunch of youts yell at me that I better get used to something, I am going to be uncomfortable.
But of course that’s just little old cowardly bigoted me.
The denial and hypocrisy here is palpable IMO.

299 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:01:49pm

re: #292 J.D.

What the Doctors Think [Larry Kudlow]


71% is a substantial number.

IBD polls are not trustworthy.

300 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:02:02pm

re: #294 talon_262

I did and I have decided that there is no evidence for that provocative a charge.

May you never have the misfortune to be publicly accused of something like that over a blog post.

301 Coracle  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:02:06pm

re: #298 Spare O’Lake

Black, red, white or blue makes no difference.
What matters to me is that if I am sitting there minding my own business and a bunch of youts yell at me that I better get used to something, I am going to be uncomfortable.

Except his own words belie the “yelling” part.

302 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:02:30pm

re: #285 Cato the Elder

By the way - the music in the last half of that compilation? Not Joss. He would never be that tacky.

303 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:02:37pm

re: #298 Spare O’Lake

Man. You’re really stretching Riehl’s narrative to levels beyond even his goofy blog post.

304 TedStriker  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:03:10pm

re: #269 SteveC

Stewardess… I speak Jive.

“Chump don’t wan’t no help, chump don’t get de help…jiveass turkeys ain’t got no brains anyhow!”

;-P

305 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:03:26pm

re: #283 JamesTKirk

I’m the youngest person here since I technically haven’t been born yet.

Have you progressed beyond being a glimmer in your father’s eye?

306 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:03:44pm

re: #300 Pingemi

I did and I have decided that there is no evidence for that provocative a charge.

May you never have the misfortune to be publicly accused of something like that over a blog post.

Right. But it’s just fine that Riehl spews insults at me and accuses me of fabricating comments on my own blog? Yeah, poor Dan.

307 Jimmah  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:04:00pm

re: #271 Spare O’Lake

Fair enough, but please tell that to the chorus who jump in lockstep to the other conclusion, and downding me for being honest.

Is that the only possible reason you think many people here, including Charles, have downdinged you?

308 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:04:13pm

re: #298 Spare O’Lake

Black, red, white or blue makes no difference.
What matters to me is that if I am sitting there minding my own business and a bunch of youts yell at me that I better get used to something, I am going to be uncomfortable.
But of course that’s just little old cowardly bigoted me.
The denial and hypocrisy here is palpable IMO.

But they weren’t sitting there minding their own business. They were discussing “politics”, which for those yahoos means loudly dissing the president. Well, thank God you’ve got Joe Wilson to yell back for ya! That’ll show ‘em!

309 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:04:32pm

re: #289 HoosierHoops

Sarah shoot the Moose from a Helicopter and had it for a BBQ…
The Squirrel is in mourning…

HooHoo -

OK - Am sure the former Governor also field stripped Moose and made a great stew along with sausages. Squirrel in mourning - OK. Where in the world is Natasha Fatale?

-S-

310 That's Glenn Beck to you  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:05:52pm

[ out of character ]

If “That’s Glenn Beck to you” has been noticeably absent it is because he is having an existential crisis.

He has been contemplating an over the top flounce full of self pity, but that is pretty much the essence of every one of his posts. That and he doesn’t want to get banned “for real.”

The other problem is that the few flounces I have caught have been hard to compete with in terms of pegging the “self pity” and being “over the top.” Sad that they were all intended to be taken seriously.

So I am waiting patiently to register an R S McCain persona - “That’s RINO Smiter to you”. But with the backlog of bonafide flouncers, it may be a while before I catch a registration opportunity. But RINO Smiter has many a tale to tell about smiting the dastardly Yankee RINOs! He will simply have to prepare in abeyance while sipping on Mint Juleps.

311 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:06:10pm

re: #293 austin_blue

Umm…no. I think his point is valid. Think of the Obama witch doctor poster with a bone in his nose. Hard to reconcile that with reasonable political discourse. How would *you* justify the pictures and the rhetoric coming out of this event, Captain Kirk? Don’t give me excuses about “it’s all been done to Bush”. Justify these specific actions and tell me it’s OK.

Carter’s exact words are “I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man.” (Emphasis mine.) Are you claiming that those teabag morons represent the overwhelming majority of people who oppose Obama, and that therefore, by extension, there are no valid reasons to oppose Obama apart from racism (another talking point of the Left)?

I denied nothing. I justified nothing. You understood nothing.

312 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:07:20pm

re: #271 Spare O’Lake

Fair enough, but please tell that to the chorus who jump in lockstep to the other conclusion, and downding me for being honest.

You may have missed the news that the lizards are now bees, so we no longer jump, we waggle.

Youtube Video
313 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:08:01pm

re: #298 Spare O’Lake

Who is in denial and being hypocritical? As a woman who uses mass transit, I know when I’ve felt threatened on a bus- and it’s not from loud, ignorant comments about getting used to Obama’s presidency. If that’s all it takes for you to feel threatened, you might want to readjust your criteria. Srsly.

314 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:08:30pm

John Lee Hooker’s Hobo Blues.

Youtube Video
315 shug  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:09:10pm

Obama supporters don’t scare me.
Just Obama policies

316 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:09:40pm

re: #312 jaunte

You may have missed the news that the lizards are now bees, so we no longer jump, we waggle.

LGF’s new theme song:

Youtube Video
317 Jimmah  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:09:51pm

re: #298 Spare O’Lake

Black, red, white or blue makes no difference.
What matters to me is that if I am sitting there minding my own business and a bunch of youts yell at me that I better get used to something, I am going to be uncomfortable.
But of course that’s just little old cowardly bigoted me.
The denial and hypocrisy here is palpable IMO.

Assuming that Riehl was just innocently minding his own business on this bus is pushing credibility way past the limits, IMO. How did these kids know that hat he was unreasonably hostile towards Obama (which he is?) ? I think if you try running the scenario again, this time as a loud mouthed racist bigot who has in someway made his hostility towards Obama evident to a bunch of people he has never met before, you’ll be closer to the truth of what actually happened here.

318 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:10:22pm

re: #297 Cato the Elder

“…they’ll swing back to the belief that they can make…people…better. And I do not hold to that. So I aim to misbehave…”

Of course we make people better! New Soviet Man! Or, for you Americans, new Obammunist Man. Improved! Non-racist!

319 Karl Rove's Brain  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:10:47pm

re: #82 Pingemi

Try riding the train with a large percentage of black youths in the South Bronx looking as white as me and carrying some Obama protest shirt or sign. You’ll definitely hear some shit being spouted off. Can’t say his story is not true because I wasn’t there but I doubt that his story is some fantasy.

Born and raised in the S. Bronx. Had to take a public bus to school every day when I was in HS. Racial stuff happens especially with a rowdy group of youths. Though I’m a white looking hispanic, I grew up in largely black and hispanic population and experienced it a couple times. This was in 70’s. It happens.

320 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:11:24pm

re: #259 Sharmuta

It’s kids talking smack on a train! For crying out loud- get a handle on some perspective here.

But where was their comma? I understand that commas are important. They can make the difference between “We Came Unarmed This Time” and “We Came Unarmed, This Time”.

And if I were a black teen hanging out in DC that day and seen some of those signs, I would have been scared. Just sayin’.

321 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:11:54pm

re: #320 SanFranciscoZionist

But where was their comma? I understand that commas are important. They can make the difference between “We Came Unarmed This Time” and “We Came Unarmed, This Time”.

We came, unarmed this time.

322 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:11:58pm

re: #311 JamesTKirk

Carter’s exact words are “I think an overwhelming portion of the intensely demonstrated animosity toward President Barack Obama is based on the fact that he is a black man.” (Emphasis mine.) Are you claiming that those teabag morons represent the overwhelming majority of people who oppose Obama, and that therefore, by extension, there are no valid reasons to oppose Obama apart from racism (another talking point of the Left)?

I denied nothing. I justified nothing. You understood nothing.

Ah, you apparently can’t read. Here’s my post:

(((Not to put too fine a point on it, and I know I will get flamed for this, but reading BS like this, doesn’t Carter have a point?

It’s not that *everyone* who is opposed to Obama is racist, but that there is a vocal racist contingent among them.)))

I did *not* agree with Carter that an “overwhelming portion” of the protesters were racists. I merely said that there was a chunk who were.

So, who’s zooming who?

323 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:12:23pm

re: #321 JamesTKirk

We came, unarmed this time.

in bed

324 Gus  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:12:56pm

The primary intent of Dan Riehl’s blog is to blame Obama using the “post racial America” as a mile post. At the same time he gets to vocalize his already internalized fear of young black males.

He and the others (Limbaugh, Malkin, et al) are now trying to blame a perceived deconstruction of racial harmony using the school bus beating in the St. Louis area as an indicator. A weak and completely irrelevant example. They’re trying to create a climate that does not exist and if anyone is trying to stir things up it’s them.

325 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:13:01pm

re: #299 Charles

I don’t know Nate Silver. You do, apparently. Saw his bio, and
I’m reading a little of him at Huffington Post…

Nate Silver: Republicans Now More Likely To Gain Seats In 2010


Read more at: [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com…]

But I can tell you that the doctors I know are very concerned.

326 shug  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:13:42pm

I think your figure of 71% was too low


re: #325 J.D.

I don’t know Nate Silver. You do, apparently. Saw his bio, and
I’m reading a little of him at Huffington Post…


But I can tell you that the doctors I know are very concerned.

327 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:13:49pm

re: #313 Sharmuta

Heh. When I would ride any mass transit, I came up with a nearly fool proof plan to avoid the crazies, assholes, and automatics.

I bought a cheap pair of headphones from a bodega (or dollar store), and just string the plug into my jacket. No walkman or anything, just the headphones.

When people think you can’t hear them, they generally don’t bother with you.

328 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:14:16pm

Deep in the archives, the incomparable Blind Lemon Jefferson.

Youtube Video
329 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:14:28pm
330 VioletTiger  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:14:46pm

em>re: #312 jaunte

You may have missed the news that the lizards are now bees, so we no longer jump, we waggle.

Youtube Video


Bees? I thought we were flying monkeys?!
Damn…

331 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:15:02pm

re: #318 Boris Badenov

That’s hardly what I meant.

It’s the religiofascists, of whatever denomination, that I fear.

332 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:15:05pm

re: #329 midnight blue

That should do it.

333 shug  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:15:17pm

re: #329 midnight blue


I think you’ll get your wish.
Why leave? If you disagree, stay and debate?

flouncing is so chickenshit.

334 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:15:34pm

re: #329 midnight blue

Ooh! We have dinnah!

Meat’s back on the table, boys!

335 Jimmah  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:15:34pm

Ash - Meltdown

Youtube Video
336 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:15:42pm

Flounce-o-matic.

337 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:16:01pm

re: #332 Salamantis

3 comments. It’s Short-Attention-Span theater.

338 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:16:04pm

re: #327 Slumbering Behemoth

Heh. When I would ride any mass transit, I came up with a nearly fool proof plan to avoid the crazies, assholes, and automatics.

I bought a cheap pair of headphones from a bodega (or dollar store), and just string the plug into my jacket. No walkman or anything, just the headphones.

When people think you can’t hear them, they generally don’t bother with you.

I did better than that. I wear a hat my grandmother crocheted for my mom- it’s pretty odd looking. When I wear it, people take one look at me and sit elsewhere. The bus can get completely full, and I’m still sitting alone. Victory is mine.

339 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:16:05pm

re: #322 austin_blue

So, who’s zooming who?

Sing it, Aretha!

You walked in on the sly
Scopin’ for love
In the crowd, I caught your eye
You can’t hide your stuff

You came to catch
You thought I’d be naive and tame
You met your match
I beat you at your own game

340 shug  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:16:05pm

re: #329 midnight blue


wait, and that was your 3rd comment in 2 years?

WTF.

nevermind what I said.
bye

341 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:16:17pm

re: #322 austin_blue

I did *not* agree with Carter that an “overwhelming portion” of the protesters were racists.

You said that Carter “had a point” and that “I think his point is valid.” That means that you agreed with him.

It’s not my fault if you contradicted yourself with your other statements.

342 Coracle  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:16:21pm

All enjoyment at watching flounces aside, might there not be some advantage to having a “delete account” button?

343 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:16:57pm

re: #342 Coracle

All enjoyment at watching flounces aside, might there not be some advantage to having a “delete account” button?

It’s unnecessary. They should just not log in. Problem solved.

344 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:17:07pm

re: #342 Coracle

All enjoyment at watching flounces aside, might there not be some advantage to having a “delete account” button?

That’s why Charles has one.

345 Flyers1974  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:17:09pm

re: #311 JamesTKirk

Carter wouldn’t be my first choice for a Dem spokesman, but aside from that, It’s possible that “intensely demonstrated animosity” was in regard to teabaggers, etc… .

346 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:17:09pm

re: #321 JamesTKirk

So you had a partner. This time.
/

347 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:17:12pm

re: #313 Sharmuta

Who is in denial and being hypocritical? As a woman who uses mass transit, I know when I’ve felt threatened on a bus- and it’s not from loud, ignorant comments about getting used to Obama’s presidency. If that’s all it takes for you to feel threatened, you might want to readjust your criteria. Srsly.

Sometimes when we touch,
The honesty’s too much.
-Dan Hill

348 shug  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:17:28pm

I took the time to log in, having had to locate my Two year old password, just so I could ask how to deactivate my anonymous account.

riiight

349 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:17:39pm

The ‘First Time’ Buddy Guy met the Blues…

Youtube Video
350 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:18:13pm

re: #329 midnight blue

You could just not log in!

351 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:18:19pm

Hey Night Honcos!

So, we are neo-charles johnson variety liberals? Who knew?

I wonder if I’ll paint flowers on my face tomorrow.

how’s it going and what are we talking about?

352 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:18:38pm

re: #326 shug

I think your figure of 71% was too low

That was the poll number, and I also think it’s low, based on the doctors I have spoken with.

353 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:18:56pm

re: #329 midnight blue

Boo hoo. “This is not the wingnut echo chamber I want it to be”

Go cry, emo kid.

354 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:19:03pm

re: #343 Sharmuta

You mean all the flouncers are showboating and anonymously self-important? Twisted!

355 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:19:03pm

Charles - maybe people should have to work for their flounce. 21 words? They should have to jump through some flaming hoop like a Palestinian Police Cadet.

356 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:19:15pm

re: #342 Coracle

All enjoyment at watching flounces aside, might there not be some advantage to having a “delete account” button?

They won’t use it. The whole point is to let Daddy know how angry they are at him.

357 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:19:18pm

re: #345 Flyers1974

Carter wouldn’t be my first choice for a Dem spokesman, but aside from that, It’s possible that “intensely demonstrated animosity” was in regard to teabaggers, etc… .

Obama disagrees with Jimmy Carter on race issue

Even Obama thinks Carter is full of shit. “Valid point” my ass.

358 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:19:48pm

re: #306 Charles

As I hadn’t seen his post and the comments deleted I can’t judge properly what was said before his but frankly if it was me I would have e-mailed him privately first to ask for an explanation and see if it could be worked out.

Blogging by nature encourages harsh words on occasion and sarcasm due to the rapid nature of the medium. And PUN-ishment can be fun and even healthy sometimes.

But once a charge of racism is made it’s different as it can make the difference in a person’s personal life. Such a direction need to be gone to soberly.

You’ve been blogging for a lot longer than me and have taken a lot more arrows over the years, hell I’ve thrown a few lately, but there are lines that are not healthy to cross, once they then things can go in an unfortunate direction. Life is too short for that.

To be fair I can’t decide if your honor has been impugned to the point where such a response is required. Only you can. I’ll just say there are times when men just have to be able to quietly settle things among themselves for the sake of everyone involved if it’s at all possible.

359 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:20:03pm

re: #325 J.D.

But I can tell you that the doctors I know are very concerned.

Cardiologists are lobbying Congress this week. They are pretty ticked that there is going to be rollback of nearly 30% in Medicare payments for Cardiology. (But no overall savings… it’s being reallocated to Primary Care docs.)
The Great Money Shift

360 HoosierHoops  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:20:14pm

re: #340 shug

wait, and that was your 3rd comment in 2 years?

WTF.

nevermind what I said.
bye

It’s Hilarious..There were some blogs attempting to sell sock puppets Ebay style a few weeks back..Childish shit but they look pretty burning up in the atmosphere…

361 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:20:15pm

re: #298 Spare O’Lake

Black, red, white or blue makes no difference.
What matters to me is that if I am sitting there minding my own business and a bunch of youts yell at me that I better get used to something, I am going to be uncomfortable.
But of course that’s just little old cowardly bigoted me.
The denial and hypocrisy here is palpable IMO.

Discomfort—sure. Although it is not at all clear to me that they were addressing him directly. I can imagine being uneasy in that situation, also a little scared.

What I am contemptuous of is that he then engages in a fantasy that he is in real danger, but of course, could kick these kids’ asses, and then expands THAT into an idea that these are ‘dangerous times’, and racial tensions may sprout under Obama.

And I find it disturbing, in light of that, that he apparently has no insight at all into how it might feel to young black men to see the signs on their streets that I’ve been seeing in pictures for the past few days. ‘Racial tensions’ are all about other people.

362 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:20:19pm

re: #358 Pingemi

You have got to be kidding.

363 Danny  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:20:29pm

re: #329 midnight blue

No you can’t unregister. The only way out is suicide.

364 shug  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:21:19pm

re: #362 Charles

You have got to be kidding.

you’re a better man than I am to have actually read that entire comment.
I saw it and just scrolled on by

365 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:21:28pm

You want music video? Boris give you music video!

366 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:21:36pm

re: #332 Salamantis

That should do it.

All units, all units, Unit 2 reporting MORON DOWN. Hazmat to sector 11954.

367 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:21:42pm

What is with this fascination for private emails with bloggers? Riehl can call Charles out, but Charles is supposed to respond privately? Why is this standard only mentioned when it benefits people being assholes to LGF?

368 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:21:45pm

re: #363 Danny

No you can’t unregister. The only way out is suicide.

No, he can flounce if he wants to. He just has to wear the tutu.

369 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:22:00pm

re: #351 ggt

Libs of the Neo-Charles Johnson variety do not paint flowers on their faces.

We paint flowers on our “hardware”.

/and I don’t mean penises

370 Mich-again  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:22:25pm
Yeah, they were technically thugs

Did he really write such a stupid thing? What the hell does that even mean? I bet he thinks they were technically gang members too.

371 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:22:34pm

If I saw as much racism in my daily life, I’d move. I think the sheer number of citizens in the country makes the fringe “seem” small. In reality their numbers probably could fill a small-medium town or two or three in each state. Luckily, when they aren’t together with their signs they aren’t as bold.

372 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:22:41pm

re: #319 Karl Rove’s Brain

I agree, I just maintain that it is unfair to attribute their attitude to racism based on that blog post.

373 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:22:43pm

re: #367 Sharmuta

What is with this fascination for private emails with bloggers? Riehl can call Charles out, but Charles is supposed to respond privately? Why is this standard only mentioned when it benefits people being assholes to LGF?

I think the answer to that is pretty obvious.

374 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:23:19pm

re: #341 JamesTKirk

You said that Carter “had a point” and that “I think his point is valid.” That means that you agreed with him.

It’s not my fault if you contradicted yourself with your other statements.

Aargh!

Read it one more time, you wiper of other people’s bottoms!!:

(((Not too put to fine a point on it, and I know I will get flamed for this, but reading BS like this, doesn’t Carter have a point?

It’s not that *everyone* who is opposed to Obama is racist, but that there is a vocal racist contingent among them.)))

Why are you being such a twit about this? Where did I say “His point is valid”?

Liar. Thread troll. Bad man.

375 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:23:37pm

re: #369 Slumbering Behemoth

Libs of the Neo-Charles Johnson variety do not paint flowers on their faces.

We paint flowers on our “hardware”.

/and I don’t mean penises

Well, that’s good, I don’t have a penis.

376 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:23:59pm

re: #346 Slumbering Behemoth

So you had a partner. This time.
/

“The longer you serve on a starship, the more you learn how things work… we’re sending our response right now.”

377 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:24:04pm

re: #362 Charles

I guess we just have a different perspectives on it. That’s the nature of life.

378 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:24:08pm

By the way, folks - the Whedonian “Reavers” trace their name back to the actual Scots border bandits of that ilk. They were - how to put it - out of control.

Unlike a bunch of scaree black kidz on a train.

Riehl has either never been to a big American city before or else he’s a Depends-pissing racist.

379 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:24:10pm

re: #367 Sharmuta

What is with this fascination for private emails with bloggers? Riehl can call Charles out, but Charles is supposed to respond privately? Why is this standard only mentioned when it benefits people being assholes to LGF?

Group think. You fight the group think and you have to obey certain standards that the group does not hold itself to.

380 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:25:29pm

re: #379 karmic_inquisitor

Group think. You fight the group think and you have to obey certain standards that the group does not hold itself to.

It makes them feel so very important to receive a private email from Charles, which they can share with their friends.

381 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:26:14pm

Hows that? Buddy Guy to Tommy Emmanuel.

Youtube Video
382 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:26:45pm

re: #374 austin_blue

Where did I say “His point is valid”?

“I think his point is valid.” -You, #293

Liar. Thread troll. Bad man.

Me=rubber, you=glue

383 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:27:07pm

re: #370 Mich-again

He used the Manual for Technical Thuggery Identification and measured them for height, width, depth, and mass according to guidelines. Also, he checked their complexion.

384 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:27:30pm

re: #381 experiencedtraveller

Megateragigaupding.

385 calcajun  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:27:35pm

re: #375 ggt

That’s ok. I got people who can take of that.///

386 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:27:39pm

re: #357 JamesTKirk

Obama disagrees with Jimmy Carter on race issue

Even Obama thinks Carter is full of shit. “Valid point” my ass.

God should forbid I ever say a good word about Jimmy the Israel Hater Carter, but I also think Obama is completely unable to say that there might be even a little racism directed toward him. He says that, he loses bigtime. So while I think his denial is partly personal opinion, I suspect it’s also partly politics.

387 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:27:58pm

He can flounce if he wants to!
He can leave this blog behind…
But if he don’t flounce
Yeah if he don’t flounce
He must not be the crazy kind…

He can troll if he wants to!
He can be a brainless twit
He can shit in the parlor
He got for free
And act like an idiot…

388 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:28:06pm

re: #367 Sharmuta

Before I reply properly I just want to clarify something: When you are referring to being called out are you talking about a comment reply in the deleted comments or the subsequent post titled “My apologies to some liberals”.

I ask because the first I heard of any of this was this post, and I never saw the deleted comments, I want to be sure we are on the same page.

389 calcajun  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:28:14pm

re: #376 SteveC

“The longer you serve on a starship, the more you learn how things work… we’re sending our response right now.”

I’m laughing at the superior intellect.

390 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:28:21pm

re: #381 experiencedtraveller

stopshreddingmyhead

391 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:28:27pm

re: #375 ggt

Must. Resist. Joke.

You’re married, correct?

392 shug  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:28:35pm

re: #387 Salamantis

He can flounce if he wants to!
He can leave this blog behind…
But if he don’t flounce
Yeah if he don’t flounce
He must not be the crazy kind…

He can troll if he wants to!
He can be a brainless twit
He can shit in the parlor
He got for free
And act like an idiot…


Men Without hats Accounts

393 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:28:46pm

re: #382 JamesTKirk

Me=rubber, you=glue

Context! I said his point was valid for the minority who were there! You, again, take me out of context.

Thread troll! Bad man!

394 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:29:22pm

re: #388 Pingemi

Why the hell do you think this guy deserves private correspondence after publicly trashing Charles and LGF?

395 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:29:36pm

re: #391 Slumbering Behemoth

Must. Resist. Joke.

You’re married, correct?

ok, well technically, I have a penis. But, I don’t paint flowers on it.

396 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:29:37pm

re: #386 SanFranciscoZionist

God should forbid I ever say a good word about Jimmy the Israel Hater Carter, but I also think Obama is completely unable to say that there might be even a little racism directed toward him. He says that, he loses bigtime. So while I think his denial is partly personal opinion, I suspect it’s also partly politics.

“Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they’re going to try to do is make you scared of me,” Obama said. “You know, ‘he’s not patriotic enough, he’s got a funny name,’ you know, ‘he doesn’t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.”

397 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:29:41pm

re: #359 SteveC

Cardiologists are lobbying Congress this week. They are pretty ticked that there is going to be rollback of nearly 30% in Medicare payments for Cardiology. (But no overall savings… it’s being reallocated to Primary Care docs.)
The Great Money Shift

That’s an awfully big “rollback”. No wonder they’re lobbying.

I hadn’t seen your blog before. It’s nice.
Handy list there, too. Thanks!

398 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:30:30pm

re: #388 Pingemi

Before I reply properly I just want to clarify something: When you are referring to being called out are you talking about a comment reply in the deleted comments or the subsequent post titled “My apologies to some liberals”.

I ask because the first I heard of any of this was this post, and I never saw the deleted comments, I want to be sure we are on the same page.

You think maybe you should actually inform yourself about what’s going on before mouthing off? Or is that too hard?

399 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:30:36pm

re: #381 experiencedtraveller

Hows that? Buddy Guy to Tommy Emmanuel.


I’ll see your Tommy and raise you Ana.

Youtube Video

Classical, baby!

400 Gus  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:30:40pm

re: #378 Cato the Elder

By the way, folks - the Whedonian “Reavers” trace their name back to the actual Scots border bandits of that ilk. They were - how to put it - out of control.

Unlike a bunch of scaree black kidz on a train.

Riehl has either never been to a big American city before or else he’s a Depends-pissing racist.

Yeah, Dan got on the train and the first thing he asked one of the kids was, “can I touch your hair?”

Actually, that probably would have been a better move.

//

401 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:30:48pm

Can I have a new body? This getting older stuff totally sucks!

402 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:30:57pm

re: #398 Charles

You think maybe you should actually inform yourself about what’s going on before mouthing off? Or is that too hard?

Reading is teh hard, Charles.

403 shug  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:31:23pm

Later

404 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:31:27pm

re: #396 JamesTKirk

“Nobody thinks that Bush and McCain have a real answer to the challenges we face. So what they’re going to try to do is make you scared of me,” Obama said. “You know, ‘he’s not patriotic enough, he’s got a funny name,’ you know, ‘he doesn’t look like all those other presidents on the dollar bills.”

He’s president now. I think it makes a difference.

405 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:31:57pm

Is your cat racist?

406 cliffster  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:32:09pm

re: #377 Pingemi

I guess we just have a different perspectives on it. That’s the nature of life.

Actually, the nature of life is to seek shelter, seek sustenance, and reproduce.

407 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:32:10pm

One other thing to point out about the Reihl “confrontation” that wasn’t - I’ve ridden on the DC Metro countless times. It is rare that people just carry on loud political chatter, unless -

1) It is on a protest weekend
2) The people are from out of town.

From the description of what the “technically thugs” said, they may have simply been telling some obnoxious out of towners where to get off by simply saying something loud among themselves intended for the obnoxious out of towners to hear.

Not the same as approaching and saying “Dear sir, may I please ask that you and your colleagues keep your discussion more intimate seeing as not all passengers on this train are apt to share your point of view nor wish to engage it?” But these days it is about as polite.

408 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:32:15pm

SNAFU -

“So, what did Health Canada send us to help prepare for the Swine Flu?”

“Let’s see… hand sanitizer, faces masks… and body bags?”

409 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:32:41pm

re: #404 SanFranciscoZionist

Most of the time it looks like he’s still campaigning.

410 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:33:23pm

re: #393 austin_blue

Context! I said his point was valid for the minority who were there!

Since when does “overwhelming portion” mean “minority”?

He was talking about the majority, not the minority. In case English isn’t your first language, those two words are complete opposites. So how can you simultaneously agree with him, and yet hold an opposing position?

411 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:33:36pm

re: #405 Boris Badenov

Is your cat racist?

Cats are above all humans, regardless of color. You can only move up in their regard, briefly, by offering food.

412 Flyers1974  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:34:08pm

re: #386 SanFranciscoZionist

…I also think Obama is completely unable to say that there might be even a little racism directed toward him. He says that, he loses bigtime. So while I think his denial is partly personal opinion, I suspect it’s also partly politics.

Very well said. My thoughts exactly. I don’t think Obama wants to touch race issues with a ten foot pole.

413 Gella  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:34:13pm

re: #405 Boris Badenov

маразм крепчал

414 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:34:38pm

This blabbermouth is revealing fiendish plan!

415 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:34:46pm

re: #395 ggt

I was gonna say you could borrow mine, but I have a rule about not fooling with married women.

The Behemoth may be a cad, a carouser, a man-slut, and a bedroom freak, but he ain’t no home wrecker.

416 Gella  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:35:01pm

re: #411 EmmmieG

and they are also color blind

417 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:35:10pm

re: #405 Boris Badenov

Fine roast of the newsweek cover!

418 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:35:13pm

re: #412 Flyers1974

Just ask Sgt. Crowley of the Cambridge, MA police department.

419 Eclectic Infidel  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:35:25pm

re: #23 SanFranciscoZionist

The green chicks will be the color of SPACE coffee with cream.

I appreciate the Discordianesque feel to that statement.

420 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:35:36pm

re: #386 SanFranciscoZionist

God should forbid I ever say a good word about Jimmy the Israel Hater Carter, but I also think Obama is completely unable to say that there might be even a little racism directed toward him. He says that, he loses bigtime. So while I think his denial is partly personal opinion, I suspect it’s also partly politics.

Yes! That’s the point. If he agrees that there are certain crazies who oppose his policies simply because they cannot accept the fact that we have a black (or mixed-race, or whatever) President, he loses clarity on the primary issue of public policy. It gets sidetracked into the whole nasty, emotional, race thingy.

It is imperative for this Admin to keep the focus on the policy, not the emotion of the whackos. Which is why the whackos are going push push push.

And why they are getting so much covert support.

421 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:35:43pm

re: #405 Boris Badenov

Is your cat racist?

No. She hates everybody!

422 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:35:53pm

re: #399 Cato the Elder

How dare you bring out the flamenco without acknowledging Vincente Gomez?

Youtube Video
423 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:35:59pm

re: #413 Gella

маразм крепча&# x043B;

Charles, can you tell us how to do Cyrillic on LGF? I get probs with it too. Is it some kinda weird unicode thang?

Even Sanskrit works here senza problema.

424 swamprat  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:36:21pm

re: #377 Pingemi

You will be missed. we know how much this site meant to you.
auf wienschnitel
ore revour
ad ee os
boa noite

425 VioletTiger  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:36:37pm

re: #405 Boris Badenov

Is your cat racist?

Well, I know that is fake.
Cats never feel guilty about anything.;)

426 Gella  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:36:45pm

re: #423 Cato the Elder

Charles, can you tell us how to do Cyrillic on LGF? I get probs with it too. Is it some kinda weird unicode thang?

Even Sanskrit works here senza problema.

do you copy and past it from translit? i use FF add-ons

427 calcajun  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:37:02pm

re: #392 shug

In honor of Dame Vera Lynn (whom Charles should honor and play some of her music)

You’ll flounce again
Don’t know where
Don’t know when
But I know you’ll flounce again some sunny day.

Keep flouncing through
Just like you always do
‘Till the big guy with the ban stick
Take your accounts away

And you would please say hello
to the Trolls that we know
And tell them that they’re just all wrong
It will peeve them to know
that as Charles laid you low
We were singing this song

You’ll flounce again
Don’t know where
Don’t know when
But I know you’ll flounce again some sunny day.

428 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:37:32pm

My orange tom chases his own brown tabby sister off the deck a lot.

I wish humans had fur with cool patterns like cats.

429 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:38:01pm

If you can type Cyrillic into comment box, works fine чорасчо. Pasting ныет.

430 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:38:22pm

re: #416 Gella

and they are also color blind

Not entirely. But they do see colors in a washed-out fashion and they cannot focus their eyes close enough to read normal text. On the plus side they can see clearly in almost-total darkness.

431 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:38:23pm

re: #412 Flyers1974

…I also think Obama is completely unable to say that there might be even a little racism directed toward him. He says that, he loses bigtime. So while I think his denial is partly personal opinion, I suspect it’s also partly politics.

Very well said. My thoughts exactly. I don’t think Obama wants to touch race issues with a ten foot pole.

He’s done some bits, like with Professor West and the Unfortunate Cop. But real talk…no.

432 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:38:45pm

Maybe not work so fine.

433 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:38:46pm

re: #431 SanFranciscoZionist

He’s done some bits, like with Professor West and the Unfortunate Cop. But real talk…no.

He has proxies to sling mud for him.

434 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:38:50pm

re: #422 experiencedtraveller

OK. I give you the flamenco.

‘ave ye eva’ heard the fado?

Youtube Video
435 Enkidu90046  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:39:35pm

re: #405 Boris Badenov

Is your cat racist?

I don’t think my cats are racists, but I know my dogs are. They fear Hispanic men a great deal. They were rescues, so my guess is that their first owner was a Hispanic male who mistreated them.

436 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:39:52pm

re: #433 JamesTKirk

He has proxies to sling mud for him.

That’s one of the advantages of being president.

437 Gella  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:39:52pm

re: #429 Boris Badenov

If you can type Cyrillic into comment box, works fine чорасч&# x043E;. Pasting ныет.

глючат скрипты наверно

438 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:39:55pm

re: #423 Cato the Elder

Charles, can you tell us how to do Cyrillic on LGF? I get probs with it too. Is it some kinda weird unicode thang?

Even Sanskrit works here senza problema.

There’s a filter that breaks long strings of characters by inserting spaces, in order to prevent a long string from rogering a thread in some silly browsers like IE.

To avoid this, just put some spaces in your long strings of Unicode entities. Eventually I’ll get around to changing that code so it’s more Unicode-friendly, but it’s not exactly a high priority at the moment.

439 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:40:16pm

Someone told me the secret to cyrillic. You have to break up words longer than four characters. Insert an empty bold in between those letter.

Вы видите сейчас?

440 calcajun  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:40:16pm

re: #428 Ojoe

Want me to take off my shirt? I would, but some PETA types would throw paint on me and scream, “fur is murder!”

441 cliffster  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:40:17pm

re: #428 Ojoe

My orange tom chases his own brown tabby sister off the deck a lot.

I wish humans had fur with cool patterns like cats.

What about The Enigma?

442 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:40:49pm

Your American capitalist toaster is racist! Not progressive like Soviet toaster. But at least it toasts.

443 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:41:10pm

re: #410 JamesTKirk

Since when does “overwhelming portion” mean “minority”?

He was talking about the majority, not the minority. In case English isn’t your first language, those two words are complete opposites. So how can you simultaneously agree with him, and yet hold an opposing position?

Oh, for goodness sakes, you are as dense as granite. I stated up front that I disagreed with him about the “majority” attack and stated that I believed that there was a minority that was racist.

Here, for the fourth time:

(((Not to put too fine a point on it, and I know I will get flamed for this, but reading BS like this, doesn’t Carter have a point?

It’s not that *everyone* who is opposed to Obama is racist, but that there is a vocal racist contingent among them.)))

At this point, would you kindly piss off?

Thanks!

444 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:41:35pm

re: #394 Sharmuta

Ok I’ll answer as best as I can:

Assuming you are referring to the deleted comments, I haven’t read them so I can’t make a fair judgment.

Assuming you are referring to these words:

Probably libs, but of the neo-charles johnson variety. Someone just emailed me the link where charles linked it. It’s funny, as they were mostly mimicking his comments now that I’ve read them. Seems his remaining lizards are now bees, just a hive of little drones. Or, maybe they were all him. He certainly doesn’t throw traffic anything like he once did. I saw that coming in but never put it together.

What a sad commentary. lgf, ugliest blog on the Internets. As I told the emailer, “Whatever it is, he’s now riding in circles in a very, very ugly place, somewhere within a state of misery. Not much to do but pity him and otherwise ignore him, I guess”.

I’d have to say they were pretty tame compared to a charge of Racism. The stuff above seems to be blog trash talk not a huge deal, at least I don’t think it is but again I don’t know the details of what was said before in comments that led to this so you might have a better perspective than me if you know what was said.

A charge of Racism changes perspectives and changes public perspectives. If I’m interviewing for a job I wouldn’t want to be googled and have my name associated with the word “racism”.

Blogging is a fun hobby, you meet interesting people, read interesting opinions and get to vent a bit, but it isn’t relevant compared to real life!

If you are going to do something that can affect someone’s real life it should be done soberly. You talk man to man, privately when possible. As this is an electronic medium e-mail is the logical method for such a talk or even a private chat room would do.

Ironically I see very little difference between overplaying the reaction to the quoted words above and the potential overreaction of the riders of the train. It’s not a racial thing, it’s just an interpretation of a situation.

445 calcajun  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:41:38pm

re: #442 Boris Badenov

Your American capitalist toaster is racist! Not progressive like Soviet toaster. But at least it toasts.

In Russia, toaster toasts you.

446 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:41:39pm

re: #442 Boris Badenov

Your American capitalist toaster is racist! Not progressive like Soviet toaster. But at least it toasts.

Not my toaster. My toaster is an arsonist. The kids are forbidden to use it while I am gone.

447 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:41:40pm

re: #440 calcajun

LOL

448 timhinhou  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:41:53pm

re: #414 Boris Badenov

Interesting clip from what appears to be 15+ years ago. Seems spot on wrt demoralization of America.

449 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:41:55pm

re: #415 Slumbering Behemoth

The Behemoth may be a cad, a carouser, a man-slut, and a bedroom freak, but he ain’t no home wrecker.

This week on Fenway and The Behemoth, Fenway gets beaten up by a jealous husband in a case of mistaken identity after Slumbering folls around with a married woman…

450 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:42:11pm

re: #434 Cato the Elder

And that’s why, though I’m moving to Maine - where there’s a lot of transplanted Lusitano fishermen and their families - I wanna die in Portugal.

451 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:42:11pm

Unbelievable.

452 Mich-again  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:42:16pm

Charles, I’ve been hanging here a long time and I have to point out you have struck a nerve like never before here and like you always say, you know you are over the target when you start receiving flak. And being a longtime GOPer who has voted straight ticket Republican in every race since 1984 I want to say thanks for taking the lead calling out the kooks on the right. They see this as their moment to take over the GOP after spending decades in the shadows reading The Spotlight and spreading the conspiracies and bitching about every Republican President but voting for them anyway when it mattered but always wishing they could grab the nomination someday.

And Ron Paul is their guy for the (who else wants it) race for the GOP nomination to oppose Obama in 2012. And the last thing they need is an intelligent rational person to call out their BS. So get ready for the onslaught. I plan to hang around and support.

453 Gella  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:42:30pm

re: #440 calcajun

Want me to take off my shirt? I would, but some PETA types would throw paint on me and scream, “fur is murder!”

just seen new commercial for mouse trap on TV, waiting for PETA to start screaming about it

454 VioletTiger  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:42:30pm

re: #442 Boris Badenov

Your American capitalist toaster is racist! Not progressive like Soviet toaster. But at least it toasts.

Oh noes…better check my toaster!

455 sngnsgt  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:42:55pm

re: #357 JamesTKirk

Obama disagrees with Jimmy Carter on race issue

Even Obama thinks Carter is full of shit. “Valid point” my ass.

Glad Obama said this about Carter’s statement, I don’t care if Obama’s black, white, green, yellow, or purple, it’s Obama’s politics I don’t agree with.

456 calcajun  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:43:09pm

re: #439 EmmmieG

Someone told me the secret to cyrillic. You have to break up words longer than four characters. Insert an empty bold in between those letter.

Вы видите сейчас?

You’re saying either that there is a rat in the kitchen or that you run with scissors.

457 Gella  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:43:10pm

re: #445 calcajun

In Russia, toaster toasts you.

no, that would be Chuck Norris :)

458 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:43:14pm

re: #441 cliffster

Well fur would be better than that.

459 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:43:14pm

Totally off topic but I noticed when I was looking through those old posts one of yours announcing a per 1.0 version of Mozilla.

Gawd do I feel old when I read that.

460 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:43:15pm

re: #435 Enkidu90046

I don’t think my cats are racists, but I know my dogs are. They fear Hispanic men a great deal. They were rescues, so my guess is that their first owner was a Hispanic male who mistreated them.

Have you ever seen the movie “White Dog”? It’s about a girl (Kristy MacNichol) trying to salvage a large white-furred dog whose white racist owner paid a black skid row bum to beat when it was a puppy, so it would grow up to hate all black people.

It’s a movie that will break your heart.

461 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:43:21pm

re: #361 SanFranciscoZionist

Discomfort—sure. Although it is not at all clear to me that they were addressing him directly. I can imagine being uneasy in that situation, also a little scared.

What I am contemptuous of is that he then engages in a fantasy that he is in real danger, but of course, could kick these kids’ asses, and then expands THAT into an idea that these are ‘dangerous times’, and racial tensions may sprout under Obama.

And I find it disturbing, in light of that, that he apparently has no insight at all into how it might feel to young black men to see the signs on their streets that I’ve been seeing in pictures for the past few days. ‘Racial tensions’ are all about other people.

I agree with you.

462 Flyers1974  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:43:39pm

re: #418 Fenway_Nation

Just ask Sgt. Crowley of the Cambridge, MA police department.

That’s the one time Obama injected himself publicly into a racial discussion since he was elected and it was a loser for him.

463 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:43:56pm

re: #444 Pingemi

If I’m interviewing for a job I wouldn’t want to be googled and have my name associated with the word “racism”.

Well, that really makes ya think, doesn’t it. How can I avoid that situation?

464 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:44:14pm

re: #451 Charles

Unbelievable.

They defend, they obfuscate, they wheedle around the edges, they parse every little statement, all to get away from the reality of facts. Why do you put up with it? It is supremely frustrating!

465 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:44:48pm

re: #452 Mich-again

Ron Paul for the 2012 nomination?!?!?!?!

Boy am I glad I wasn’t drinking anything when I read that.

466 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:44:58pm

How do you write siski in cyrillic?

467 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:45:50pm

re: #448 timhinhou

Was made during Reagan era. KGB guy with poison dart shooting umbrella missed him.

468 swamprat  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:45:56pm

re: #450 Cato the Elder

And that’s why, though I’m moving to Maine - where there’s a lot of transplanted Lusitano fishermen and their families - I wanna die in Portugal.

Great bread!
Try the Al-Catra.
It is terrible to jones for that which you cannot have.

469 calcajun  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:46:09pm

re: #442 Boris Badenov

Your American capitalist toaster is racist! Not progressive like Soviet toaster. But at least it toasts.

Nonsense. I put in white bread and it comes out black—always. Of course, my toaster came from China via Wal-mart. What does it all mean?

470 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:46:28pm

re: #444 Pingemi

Ironically I see very little difference between overplaying the reaction to the quoted words above and the potential overreaction of the riders of the train. It’s not a racial thing, it’s just an interpretation of a situation.

You’re aware part of the interpretation of the situation included racial stereotypes, and fantasies of violence? Or is this lost on you?

471 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:46:32pm

re: #443 austin_blue

Oh, for goodness sakes, you are as dense as granite. I stated up front that I disagreed with him about the “majority” attack and stated that I believed that there was a minority that was racist.

Then why the bloody frak did you jump all over me (#293) when I also said that the racists are a minority? (#280)

You are contradicting yourself when you aren’t outright lying, and you’re making me look like the mature one (which ain’t easy).

472 karmic_inquisitor  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:46:41pm

re: #451 Charles

Unbelievable.

Nothing like getting lectured on blog etiquette.

473 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:46:49pm

нечистый

My favorite Russian word. According to my Russian teacher, it’s a cross between unholy and unclean.

474 calcajun  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:46:55pm

re: #458 Ojoe

I think you have an unhealthy fur fixation./

475 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:47:32pm

re: #466 Ojoe

сиски

476 Gella  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:47:37pm

re: #473 EmmmieG

нечистый

My favorite Russian word. According to my Russian teacher, it’s a cross between unholy and unclean.

sometimes it can be used as a very mild swearing word jokingly, if i remember correclty

477 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:47:47pm

re: #464 austin_blue

They defend, they obfuscate, they wheedle around the edges, they parse every little statement, all to get away from the reality of facts. Why do you put up with it? It is supremely frustrating!

Because contrary to what what some people at Rodan’s place say, Charles does believe in free speech and allows people to challenge him in a non-insulting manner. Pingemi hasn’t crossed the line so far, just earned a plethora of downdings.

478 Gella  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:47:58pm

re: #475 Boris Badenov

сиски

сись ки

479 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:48:38pm

re: #452 Mich-again

Cheers!

480 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:48:45pm

re: #476 Gella

sometimes it can be used as a very mild swearing word jokingly, if i remember correclty

I’ve just been waiting for a chance to use it. Problem is, nobody around me speaks Russian.

481 cliffster  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:48:53pm

re: #471 JamesTKirk

you’re making me look like the mature one (which ain’t easy).

word. ;)

482 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:49:02pm

re: #473 EmmmieG

My Russian teacher was Ochyen Seksii…

Of course, she was actually Polish.

483 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:49:08pm

re: #478 Gella

If second “s” is “soft”, yes.

484 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:49:13pm

re: #477 Dark_Falcon

Because contrary to what what some people at Rodan’s place say, Charles does believe in free speech and allows people to challenge him in a non-insulting manner. Pingemi hasn’t crossed the line so far, just earned a plethora of downdings.

There are limits, however, to how much I’ll put up with from people who can’t be bothered to inform themselves before telling me how they think I should act.

485 Gella  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:49:38pm

re: #483 Boris Badenov

If second “s” is “soft”, yes.

i think thats what he meant

486 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:49:51pm

re: #470 Sharmuta

No I’m aware it involved direct observation.

And I repeat if you are going to make a charge that can affect someone in real life it’s worth taking the time to think about what you are doing.

487 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:50:15pm
Youtube Video
488 Flyers1974  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:50:37pm

OT

Bizarre - Bill O’Reilly speaks favorably about the public option.

489 lurking faith  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:51:00pm

re: #192 Spare O’Lake

Don’t avoid the question, please.
What if the group is 10 and they are talking loudly to you, telling you that “you better get used to it”?
My there are a lot of very brave people here.

I’m in the DC region. I hear all kinds of trash talk on the Metro. Day, night, crowded, mostly empty, whatever. Usually I’m alone. Haven’t been genuinely frightened yet, even when I was the one being talked about or at.

And I wouldn’t be in this situation either. Only if they made actual threatening moves. These kids didn’t even begin to approach the protestors. Oooo, scary.

Guys who mean real trouble don’t just hang out at the other end of the car, being all loud and obvious. Also, the Metro cars are 75 feet long, so there can be a LOT of space between you and a group at the other end of the car.

490 SteveC  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:51:02pm

re: #469 calcajun

Nonsense. I put in white bread and it comes out black—always. Of course, my toaster came from China via Wal-mart. What does it all mean?

Means your settings are too high. Find the little knob and change it to “toast” - don’t leave it on “Chernobyl”

491 Flyers1974  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:51:06pm

re: #488 Flyers1974

Forgot link.

[Link: www.thedailybeast.com…]

492 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:51:10pm

re: #475 Boris Badenov

сиски

Now I know.

Thanks.


Link is to Dolly.

493 Boris Badenov  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:51:13pm

Okay malenkii lizardskis, I say дазвиданые, time to go drink vodka with Natasha, and work on fiendish plan.

494 Salamantis  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:51:33pm

For those who are interested in the movie “White Dog”, you can read about it here:

[Link: www.imdb.com…]

synopsis:

Up and coming Hollywood starlet Julie Sawyer (Kristy McNichol) takes in a stray German Shepherd after accidentally hitting it with her car. Though the animal seems friendly and protective at first, it soon reveals a startling aspect of its nature: it will brutally kill any dark-skinned person it sees. Facing the possibility that her pet might be euthanized for the safety of the public, Julie takes the dog to Noah’s Ark, a facility that specializes in training animals for movies. She begs the facility operator Mr. Carruthers (Burl Ives) to break her dog of it’s racist attack training, but he insists it is not possible. However, his top trainer, Keys (Paul Winfield) believes he can break the dog and takes on the task as a personal challenge. But Keys himself is African-American, meaning every training session is literally a life and death struggle.

The dog resists the training at first, and even escapes the facility to continue it’s attack spree, culminating in the brutal murder of a black man in a church. This tragedy gives Keys new resolve and through harder, almost obsessive work, he finally gets the dog to stop senselessly attacking blacks, but soon discovers that the training has had an unexpected side-effect: the dog now hates white people instead. As the dog mauls Mr. Carruthers, Keys finally accepts that the animal’s hatred cannot be defeated, only redirected to a new target, and puts the dog down with a bullet to the head. The dog breathes its last as Keys and Julie rush Carruthers away for medical help.

495 Desert Dog  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:51:36pm

re: #482 Fenway_Nation

My Russian teacher was Ochyen Seksii…

Of course, she was actually Polish.

My Russian teacher was Mr. Stolisnaya.

He was a cruel, cruel teacher…

496 Locker  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:51:37pm

re: #460 Salamantis

Have you ever seen the movie “White Dog”? It’s about a girl (Kristy MacNichol) trying to salvage a large white-furred dog whose white racist owner paid a black skid row bum to beat when it was a puppy, so it would grow up to hate all black people.

It’s a movie that will break your heart.

I don’t think I could watch that for 5 minutes. Your description alone made my skin crawl.

497 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:51:47pm

re: #484 Charles

There are limits, however, to how much I’ll put up with from people who can’t be bothered to inform themselves before telling me how they think I should act.

I know, and I’m careful to stay within those limits. I hope that Pingmi will stop before he reaches them, but if I were to lay a bet I’d bet on him getting the gate.

498 Pingemi  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:51:50pm

re: #484 Charles

That being the case Charles before you reach that limit and before I overload the negative karma rankings I’ll log off and maybe get some shuteye.

Good night to you all and Sharmuta; you get the last word of our discussion.

499 Gella  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:52:00pm

re: #493 Boris Badenov

Okay malenkii lizardskis, I say дазвид&# x0430;ные, time to go drink vodka with Natasha, and work on fiendish plan.

ha ha ha
good night, i need to do the same :)

500 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:52:01pm

re: #324 Gus 802

The primary intent of Dan Riehl’s blog is to blame Obama using the “post racial America” as a mile post. At the same time he gets to vocalize his already internalized fear of young black males.

He and the others (Limbaugh, Malkin, et al) are now trying to blame a perceived deconstruction of racial harmony using the school bus beating in the St. Louis area as an indicator. A weak and completely irrelevant example. They’re trying to create a climate that does not exist and if anyone is trying to stir things up it’s them.

Rush seemed like he was about to turn into “Jeff Christie” today with his comment about whether the U.S. can afford a black President if the news media is going to not vet his radical views or associations during the campaign, and gives him a free pass once he’s elected, just because they want to see him succeed.

It was quite similar to the comments Rush made concerning quarterback Donovan McNabb that got him axed from Monday Night Football.

501 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:52:03pm

re: #486 Pingemi

No I’m aware it involved direct observation.

And I repeat if you are going to make a charge that can affect someone in real life it’s worth taking the time to think about what you are doing.

Funny how this applies to Charles but not to riehl.

502 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:52:15pm
503 Racer X  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:52:31pm

Who let all these communists in here?

/

504 calcajun  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:52:33pm

re: #490 SteveC

Means your settings are too high. Find the little knob and change it to “toast” - don’t leave it on “Chernobyl”

Are you kidding— it’s what I use to make hardwood charcoal for the smoker.

505 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:52:56pm

до свидания to you, Boris Badenov.

506 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:53:41pm

And now here come the people complaining about what isn’t posted here.

507 swamprat  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:53:50pm

re: #486 Pingemi


Insert appropiate ad hom below;

_ _ _ _!

508 Danny  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:54:14pm

re: #498 Pingemi

Saved by Mr. Sandman.

509 jaunte  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:54:15pm

Some people have awfully impenetrable heads.

510 calcajun  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:54:20pm

re: #502 kilroy

Apparently, leadless fearer made some concessions to Putin-puppet Medvedev without getting anything in return. Or so the headlines say.

511 Gella  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:54:28pm

good night and L’shanah tovah

512 Gus  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:54:46pm

re: #500 Dar ul Harb

Rush seemed like he was about to turn into “Jeff Christie” today with his comment about whether the U.S. can afford a black President if the news media is going to not vet his radical views or associations during the campaign, and gives him a free pass once he’s elected, just because they want to see him succeed.

It was quite similar to the comments Rush made concerning quarterback Donovan McNabb that got him axed from Monday Night Football.

He’s lost his mind. He said something in support of segregated busing the other day. The whole thing is going out of control fast. It’s like they’re regressing to a point where as a society we may have to start all over again if these people get their way.

513 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:54:52pm

Some people really have that passive aggressive thing down to an art.

514 Mich-again  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:54:56pm

re: #465 Pingemi

I think there is a good chance some potential GOP candidates may sit 2012 out. And who else is out there besides RP that the folks like Glen Beck, Alex Jones, and Andrew Napolitano would shill for? Mike Huckabee? Mitt Romney? Rudy G? Sarah Palin? not a chance. RP is their guy and the Tea Parties will turn into RP rallies.

515 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:54:58pm

re: #493 Boris Badenov

Okay malenkii lizardskis, I say дазвид&# x0430;ные, time to go drink vodka with Natasha, and work on fiendish plan.

I’ve got a better plan than yours, however fiendish it may be. Take Sarah Palin and her rifle on a trip to Frostbite Falls and lead her to Bullwinkle’s house. Moose problem solved, though Cato wouldn’t like it.

/kidding, Cato

516 austin_blue  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:56:00pm

re: #471 JamesTKirk

Then why the bloody frak did you jump all over me (#293) when I also said that the racists are a minority? (#280)

You are contradicting yourself when you aren’t outright lying, and you’re making me look like the mature one (which ain’t easy).

Note to self:

Do not respond to thread trolls like James Kirk in the future. It’s a pointless waste of time. Sheesh.

517 Locker  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:56:32pm

re: #515 Dark_Falcon

I’ve got a better plan than yours, however fiendish it may be. Take Sarah Palin and her rifle on a trip to Frostbite Falls and lead her to Bullwinkle’s house. Moose problem solved, though Cato wouldn’t like it.

/kidding, Cato

Well, change the word rifle to “easy cheese” and the word Bullwinkle and Moose to Cato and I think you might have something. (Oh and wouldn’t to would)

518 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:56:34pm

re: #498 Pingemi

Good call. I’m glad I was wrong. Get some sleep, and do come back once you’ve had a chance to reflect on things.

519 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:56:53pm

до свидания to you, Boris Badenov.

(Second time’s the charm. I must have missed an invisible character.)

520 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:57:09pm

re: #516 austin_blue

Can’t answer. Got it.

Good night.

521 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:57:20pm

Has anyone seen realwest recently?

522 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:57:21pm

re: #495 Desert Dog

I can’t even pronounce remember my teacher’s last name, but I remember the sight of her in the proverbial ‘little black dress’ and a surprisingly frank discussion on the specualted carnal proclivites of Rasputin and Pushkin after class one afternoon.

At first, I was just glad she didnt insist I write in Cyrillic and cursive, since it was an ‘either/or’ proposition for me…

523 chrisblask  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:57:39pm

OK, now don’t start talking all rational, you’ll get me voting Republican again!

524 outsidephilly  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:58:08pm

re: #521 J.D.

Has anyone seen realwest recently?

no, I haven’t

525 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:58:28pm

re: #523 chrisblask

OK, now don’t start talking all rational, you’ll get me voting Republican again!

You might want to wait until a candidate starts talking rationally.

526 timhinhou  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:59:16pm

re: #514 Mich-again

RP in 2012? If so, we are going down a worse path than I feared.

527 kilroy  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 8:59:48pm

re: #510 calcajun

I think moving positions offshore allows occupation without collateral damage to US nationals.

528 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:00:29pm

re: #428 Ojoe

My orange tom chases his own brown tabby sister off the deck a lot.

I wish humans had fur with cool patterns like cats.

NOOO, then there would be a whole new category of reasons for whacko’s to hate. Some would see sekret messages in the patterns and more would see Jesus.

I think we should be happy for the small favor of NOT having fur—patterned or not.

529 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:01:02pm

re: #515 Dark_Falcon

I’ve got a better plan than yours, however fiendish it may be. Take Sarah Palin and her rifle on a trip to Frostbite Falls and lead her to Bullwinkle’s house. Moose problem solved, though Cato wouldn’t like it.

/kidding, Cato

OK, I may be breaking my vow. But according to the son-in-law she forced to cut off his mullet so he could be groomed as “guy who fucks a slut and mans up to be a dad” for the benefit of the RNC and the national media, she doesn’t even know her way around a gun. The moose-huntin’ momma? It was all fake.

And not that I trust Levi on anything else, but he knows guns. If he can’t spot a fake-ass fumbler wannabe in that department, then he’s too stupid to be a liar. And that takes some talent.

530 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:01:05pm

re: #449 Fenway_Nation

This week on Fenway and The Behemoth, Fenway gets beaten up by a jealous husband in a case of mistaken identity after Slumbering folls around with a married woman…

I have no idea what “folling” is, but if she’s kinky enough I’m willing to give it a shot.

/is it anything like “sploshing”?

531 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:01:14pm

re: #489 lurking faith

I’m in the DC region. I hear all kinds of trash talk on the Metro. Day, night, crowded, mostly empty, whatever. Usually I’m alone. Haven’t been genuinely frightened yet, even when I was the one being talked about or at.

And I wouldn’t be in this situation either. Only if they made actual threatening moves. These kids didn’t even begin to approach the protestors. Oooo, scary.

Guys who mean real trouble don’t just hang out at the other end of the car, being all loud and obvious. Also, the Metro cars are 75 feet long, so there can be a LOT of space be tween you and a group at the other end of the car.

In Toronto, where on rare occasions I ride the subway at night, I have never been addressed by a group of guys. It would be a real rarity here, and I can assure you that I would be quite uncomfortable. It is considered very bad form in Toronto for strangers to speak on a subway train - people generally don’t even look at eachother.
Sad in a way, but true.

532 Flyers1974  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:01:26pm

re: #514 Mich-again

I think there is a good chance some potential GOP candidates may sit 2012 out. And who else is out there besides RP that the folks like Glen Beck, Alex Jones, and Andrew Napolitano would shill for? Mike Huckabee? Mitt Romney? Rudy G? Sarah Palin? not a chance. RP is their guy and the Tea Parties will turn into RP rallies.

The only one of these who is electable in my opinion is Romney. And past history shows the GOP doesn’t at a minimum, pick horrible candidates: McCain, Bush II, Dole, Bush I - unlike the Dems with Dukakis, Mondale, Carter. Whether Ron Paul, Sarah Palin, the tea parties, ODS, etc…, have changed this, we shall see.

533 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:01:31pm

re: #450 Cato the Elder

And that’s why, though I’m moving to Maine - where there’s a lot of transplanted Lusitano fishermen and their families - I wanna die in Portugal.

Maine? You have to embrace the Celtic there…

Youtube Video
534 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:02:14pm

re: #524 outsidephilly

no, I haven’t

Thanks.

I don’t know how to search for the last time he was here, but it’s been a while since I’ve seen him. Kinda worries me.

535 chrisblask  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:02:58pm

re: #525 Sharmuta

It’s inevitable in the end, the only question is how far out the end is? Sooner or later the crazy has to stop being so attractive (I’m an optimist that way) and some GOP politician will actually care about getting votes from the moderate voters like me (who oddly enough decide a lot of elections…).

536 Throbert McGee  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:03:22pm

re: #327 Slumbering Behemoth

I bought a cheap pair of headphones from a bodega (or dollar store)

Just as a pedantic point, SB doesn’t mean that a “bodega” is another word for “dollar store,” but simply that either venue is likely to have ultra-cheap headphones for sale.

I didn’t know what a “bodega” was until moving to NYC in the mid-’90s — in NYC, at least, the word is another word for “mom-and-pop corner grocery”, or you can also think of it as a “mom-and-pop 7-11.” (The “mom-and-pop” part is always implied.) And its a cognate of apothecary, presumably via an ancient Iberian with a head cold: “potheca” —> “bodega.”

537 Promethea  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:03:23pm

re: #5 Ojoe

Can’t wait until we’re all the color of coffee with cream.

It’s time for you to read “The Lathe of Heaven,” by Ursula LeGuin

538 outsidephilly  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:04:26pm

re: #534 J.D.

Thanks.

I don’t know how to search for the last time he was here, but it’s been a while since I’ve seen him. Kinda worries me.

Yes, not seeing him is worrisome to me, also!

All I can do is keep him in my prayers…,
I wish I could drop off some chicken soup to him…

539 kilroy  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:04:52pm

re: #529 Cato the Elder
I live up here with her; don’t let the red come xxx me pumps fool you. I wouldn’t want to go one on one with her in the woods!

540 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:05:24pm

re: #533 experiencedtraveller

Maine? You have to embrace the Celtic there…

The Celtic and the futhark embraced me: Irish-Scots-Welsh mutt that I be.

541 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:05:24pm

re: #521 J.D.

Has anyone seen realwest recently?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

542 outsidephilly  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:05:50pm

re: #541 JamesTKirk

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

thank you!

543 Summersong  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:06:04pm

Ugly ride

Youtube Video
544 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:07:04pm

re: #512 Gus 802

He’s lost his mind. He said something in support of segregated busing the other day. The whole thing is going out of control fast. It’s like they’re regressing to a point where as a society we may have to start all over again if these people get their way.

I’ve kind of concluded that Rush is so well-off now, he doesn’t much give a damn who he offends with his “turnabout” schtick, kind of like back in the early days when he was doing “caller abortions” and referring to pro-abortion feminists as “feminazis.”

545 JamesTKirk  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:07:15pm

re: #542 outsidephilly

thank you!

You’re welcome. I knew someone had mentioned him a few threads ago, didn’t take long to find.

546 Dave Brown  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:07:28pm

A few weeks ago I think that Charles posted the following:

Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain, or freed a human soul.
— Mark Twain

I just wanted to say how much I appreciate LGF, and Charles’ ability to be guided by his internal moral compass… not dogma or doctrine.

I’ve been a fellow Lizardoid traveler for several years. And someone who before 2001 found it hard to open my mind to ideas that were not left of center. Charles did a good job of feeding me with information that allowed me to break ideological chains, when the facts dictated that it was right to do so. He helped me to restructure my thinking into that most unloved of all political creatures: an open-minded moderate with some strong personal opinions.

However, being a naturally cynical type, I always had a shadow of a doubt… wondering whether Charles might really have been nothing more than just a very clever Republican operative.

Well, these past few months have shown me that Charles is truly a free thinker, an honest man and a Monkey Mind:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org…]

Monkey Minds get frustrated at their friends’ inability move quickly through the jungle of reality. More rigid minds won’t quit following a particular road (even after that road has veered off into wrong territory) or they keep going in a single unchanging direction (even when the thing they claim to be seeking has headed off in a different direction).

Keep following that “narrow way” as you see it unfold before you. Thanks for being there, man!

547 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:07:42pm

re: #521 J.D.

Has anyone seen realwest recently?

hoosierhoops told me earlier that he is getting used to new meds, but he’ll be back.

548 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:07:44pm

re: #538 outsidephilly

Yes, not seeing him is worrisome to me, also!

All I can do is keep him in my prayers…,
I wish I could drop off some chicken soup to him…

Me, too.

re: #541 JamesTKirk

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

Thanks.
I saw that yesterday, too, but I wonder when he was here last. It’s not like him to be gone for so long.

549 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:08:31pm

re: #529 Cato the Elder

OK, I may be breaking my vow. But according to the son-in-law she forced to cut off his mullet so he could be groomed as “guy who fucks a slut and mans up to be a dad” for the benefit of the RNC and the national media, she doesn’t even know her way around a gun. The moose-huntin’ momma? It was all fake.

And not that I trust Levi on anything else, but he knows guns. If he can’t spot a fake-ass fumbler wannabe in that department, then he’s too stupid to be a liar. And that takes some talent.

I don’t trust Levi Johnson at all. He’s a buffoon who couldn’t grow up after his son was born, so Bristol Palin kicked him to the curb. Then he went on TV and acted like the kicked-to-the-curb asshole he is, by spreading lies about the Palin family. He’s a tool and I wouldn’t trust anything he says.

550 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:08:31pm

re: #539 kilroy

I live up here with her; don’t let the red come xxx me pumps fool you. I wouldn’t want to go one on one with her in the woods!

No you don’t. She’s fled to greener fields.

551 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:09:18pm

re: #533 experiencedtraveller

And BTW I speak it, too.

552 outsidephilly  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:09:59pm

re: #545 JamesTKirk

You’re welcome. I knew someone had mentioned him a few threads ago, didn’t take long to find.

I appreciate you sharing that…

553 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:10:35pm

re: #547 ggt

hoosierhoops told me earlier that he is getting used to new meds, but he’ll be back.

Bless his heart. He’s already had so much trouble with his medications…

554 outsidephilly  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:11:11pm

re: #547 ggt

hoosierhoops told me earlier that he is getting used to new meds, but he’ll be back.


Too bad we all can’t just stop by his house with cake and cookies!

555 SummerSong  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:11:15pm

re: #546 Dave Brown

Nice post, Dave.

556 Mich-again  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:11:35pm

re: #532 Flyers1974

The only one of these who is electable in my opinion is Romney. And past history shows the GOP doesn’t at a minimum, pick horrible candidates: McCain, Bush II, Dole, Bush I - unlike the Dems with Dukakis, Mondale, Carter. Whether Ron Paul, Sarah Palin, the tea parties, ODS, etc…, have changed this, we shall see.

We shall see indeed. Hopefully there is someone out there who can step up to the plate and save the GOP from the Bircher mutiny and subsequent sinking of the ship. The USA needs 2 functional parties. The race for the GOP nomination in 2012 might be more important than the general election.

557 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:12:10pm

re: #554 outsidephilly

Too bad we all can’t just stop by his house with cake and cookies!

I’m going to send him an email (if I can find his email addy). Let you know if he writes back.

558 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:12:53pm

re: #512 Gus 802

He’s lost his mind. He said something in support of segregated busing the other day. The whole thing is going out of control fast. It’s like they’re regressing to a point where as a society we may have to start all over again if these people get their way.

Segregated busing? That will help with racial harmony.

//

559 sagehen  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:12:57pm

re: #292 J.D.

What the Doctors Think [Larry Kudlow]


71% is a substantial number.

IBD also told us that if Stephen Hawking were British, the NHS death panel would have let him die years ago.

I find this equally credible.

560 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:13:56pm

re: #559 sagehen

IBD also told us that if Stephen Hawking were British, the NHS death panel would have let him die years ago.

I find this equally credible.

I thought Stephen Hawking was British?

561 outsidephilly  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:14:46pm

re: #548 J.D.

I really like realwest - and here I am just getting to know him via LGF …!

562 lurking faith  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:17:13pm

re: #531 Spare O’Lake

In Toronto, where on rare occasions I ride the subway at night, I have never been addressed by a group of guys. It would be a real rarity here, and I can assure you that I would be quite uncomfortable. It is considered very bad form in Toronto for strangers to speak on a subway train - people generally don’t even look at eachother.
Sad in a way, but true.

It’s not common in DC, either.

And even when it happens, mostly what I meant was talking, not TO me, but in a way I am clearly intended to hear.

I don’t love it, but it’s not scary if they maintain a distance.

563 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:19:40pm

re: #560 ggt

I thought Stephen Hawking was British?

Not only was… is.

564 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:20:38pm

re: #561 outsidephilly

I really like realwest - and here I am just getting to know him via LGF …!

Nice meeting you outsidephilly.
I’ve known him awhile.
I’ve e-mailed him and will report back if I can.

Have a good night!

565 Throbert McGee  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:20:56pm

re: #536 Throbert McGee

SB doesn’t mean that a “bodega” is another word for “dollar store,”
[…] in NYC, at least, the word is another word for “mom-and-pop corner grocery”

Bleech. I was out this evening with a few friends who had come into town early for the 20-year HS reunion; obviously my inner editor had one beer too many.

One of our old classmates is now a teacher at the school, and led a guided tour of the building this evening. Kinda mind-blowing to go inside — not because it was a nostalgia trip, but purely for architectural reasons. The school was built in the ’70s during the fad of “open classrooms,” meaning an absolute minimum of interior walls — just lots and lots of fabric-covered partitions that anyone more than 5’6” tall can easily peer over, like in many workplaces. It was still that way in the late ’80s, but just a few years ago they did massive interior renovations, so it’s all enclosed classrooms now, and that was the mind-blowing part.

(For any Lizards who might happen to be familiar with the Northern Virginia area and/or Fairfax County schools, I’m talking about Lake Braddock, in Burke.)

566 Enkidu90046  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:22:57pm

re: #500 Dar ul Harb


It was quite similar to the comments Rush made concerning quarterback Donovan McNabb that got him axed from Monday Night Football.

It was ESPN, not MNF. I remember watching it when he said it and not believing what I just heard.

567 lurking faith  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:23:11pm

re: #548 J.D.

Thanks.
I saw that yesterday, too, but I wonder when he was here last. It’s not like him to be gone for so long.

His most recent post was last week Thursday.

568 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:24:32pm

re: #559 sagehen

IBD also told us that if Stephen Hawking were British, the NHS death panel would have let him die years ago.

I find this equally credible.

My neighbors’ families are receiving British health care.
They are not fans.

Oh, and neither are my Canadian neighbors fans of their system.

569 J.D.  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:25:11pm

re: #567 lurking faith

His most recent post was last week Thursday.

Thanks.

That’s an awfully long time for him.

Maybe I’ll hear something tomorrow from him.

570 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:25:26pm

re: #549 Dark_Falcon

Right. No insight there, having seen the Palin family up close.

I’ll discount 50% of everything he says. The rest sticks.

571 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:28:01pm

re: #557 ggt

Give him my best, would ya?

/failing that, give him a beer

572 lurking faith  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:30:54pm

re: #569 J.D.

Thanks.

That’s an awfully long time for him.

Maybe I’ll hear something tomorrow from him.

I hope so. He’s much missed.

Some of those meds just really knock people out, though.

573 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:32:41pm

re: #570 Cato the Elder

Right. No insight there, having seen the Palin family up close.

I’ll discount 50% of everything he says. The rest sticks.

I’m not saying he does not have insight. I’m saying that he is lying. He is doing so for two reasons:

1. To punish Bristol Palin for declaring him immature.

2. To court the attention of the media. The Elite Media hates Sarah Palin and has proven to be quite willing to pay someone able to slime her, truthfully or not.

The guy has ulterior motives, Cato. And I won’t call him a man since his anti-Palin tour proves to me that Bristol Palin was right about him. He’s yet to really grow up.

574 rbruning  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:36:56pm

re: #5 Ojoe

But, What about diversity?

575 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:43:42pm

re: #435 Enkidu90046

My dog fears Palestinians. We were in Israel in 2006 and went to Nazareth, a majority Arab Israeli city.

The hate vibes he got off the men on the street were so strong, he had his tail between his legs for the first time ever since he’s been with me. True story.

I finally had to take him back to the tour bus and ask the Arab driver to put on the A/C and watch out for him till I got back from the tour. Which he did.

Honestly, I now believe in ESP. That dog was f-in’ terrified.

And yes, I do know it’s a cultural thang. He would have gotten the same waves from Brahmins.

576 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:44:32pm

re: #546 Dave Brown

Thank you for that, Dave.

577 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:45:09pm

re: #573 Dark_Falcon

Bullshit.

A dissed paramour tells the truth. With embellishments, but if you want to know about the mother-in-law, who you gonna call?

578 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:47:13pm

re: #573 Dark_Falcon

And besides, the fault lies not with Bristle or Levee, but with the beeyotch who tried to use them both for her political ends.

Like with Trig.

And I have hereby officially broken my vow.

sit

579 chrisblask  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:52:58pm

re: #568 J.D.

My neighbors’ families are receiving British health care.
They are not fans.

Oh, and neither are my Canadian neighbors fans of their system.

First, the Stephen Hawking quote was from Hawking himself:

“I wouldn’t be here today if it were not for the NHS. I have received a large amount of high-quality treatment without which I would not have survived.

Second, I lived in Canada three times for a total of twenty years (I married one, who has ulcerative colitis). I have my beefs with the system up there, but in the end the worst care in Canada is just a bit less than the best care in the US., and the best care in Canada is as good as the best here. The range is very small, while here it is enormous (the worst care in the US is, well, between truly awful and completely unavailable). Last time I lived there my 93 year old neighbor was offered knee replacements by his doctor (he turned them down and lived to 99).

We could avoid some of the problems of Canadian healthcare (with luck and effort) and have all the benefits (including spending way less) and I would love to debate how we do that. But this whole “old people are left to die in those countries” BS is ridiculous. Let’s argue about the real issues (like avoiding Single-Tier, or making sure we don’t demotivate research) and save the tinfoil-hat arguments for the the lunatics.

580 sagehen  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:55:09pm

re: #560 ggt

I thought Stephen Hawking was British?


Yes, he is.

Upon hearing of the IBD editorial in question, he released a statement that he’s been under NHS care all his life, and they do excellent work thanks for asking.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk…]

So, y’know, that tells us something about IBD’s commitment to an objective consideration of the policy.

581 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:55:22pm

re: #578 Cato the Elder

And besides, the fault lies not with Bristle or Levee, but with the beeyotch who tried to use them both for her political ends.

Like with Trig.

And I have hereby officially broken my vow.

sit

Sorry, Cato. I was just making a joke. Didn’t mean to bother you, but I should have remembered that vow.

582 Cato the Elder  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 9:55:47pm

re: #579 chrisblask

Thank you.

I lived in Germany for ten years. The German system was started by Bismarck.

I am less scared of “socialized medicine” than I am of the people who are scared of it.

583 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:06:47pm

Seems rbruning doesn’t like you noticing the racism, Charles.

584 iceweasel  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:22:37pm

re: #573 Dark_Falcon

re: #582 Cato the Elder

BTW, I think you’re both right about Levi and the Palins. I loathe Sarah Palin, and I think some of the charges he makes about her in that article are true, but the others strike me as fabrications. He’s a pig.

585 FamHistoryGuy  Thu, Sep 17, 2009 10:38:50pm

re: #570 Cato the Elder

From your posts here, you have such a severe hate of Palin that you would believe any negative source not matter how unreliable.

586 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Sep 18, 2009 12:50:54am

So I am late to this party, but I have to say that the backlash of the radicals is always marvelously appalling and pathetic to see.

We have, as the topic of this thread, a paranoid and racist fantasy.

I’ve been arguing for some time, that the root of the crazy infesting the right wing is nothing more or less than the fear of “loosing” America as a lilly white and Christian confection.

Isn’t it utterly clear that if you are so threatened just by seeing black folks that you have to think the way this asshole does, you are living in a state of racial fear?

Isn’t it utterly clear that a rhetoric of a non-white, non-Christian man coming to take your guns and your freedoms and kill your granny - is nothing more than what the mind that is terrified of loosing lily white America has fever dreams about?

Isn’t it utterly clear that we are looking at nothing more than the fears the create racism, and that once those fears of the other are stoked, only racism can follow?

How much more evidence is needed?

Of course, it is not clear to many on the right, because they can not admit the fears that drive this. They do not consider themselves racist, and indeed many are not. However, they are afraid, and as those fears are stoked and twinged, eventually the seeds are sown.

There is much apologetics for the stuff… It is after all “concern for America” in the minds of many… but again those concerns revolve around loosing America to the other. From there, the panic turns to anger and then hatred.

Fear of the other is racism.

It leads to nothing good. Just feelings of anger, frustration and false oppression. The evil liberal media is painting us badly! No NO NO he isn’t racist at all, the bone though the nose in that picture really meant… Why can’t I criticize without being called racist?

Well you can criticize without being a racist - provided that you are criticizing a policy on the basis of fact and not making up horror stories about a black man on the basis of fear.

587 Pingemi  Fri, Sep 18, 2009 6:01:38am

I’m only just now noticing that Charles’ link were to Cache pages with the comments. No wonder Charles was wondering why I hadn’t read the comments, when I saw the post saying they were deleted I assumed they weren’t there. (Late night for me) I read them this morning. My reaction to them follow:

The first thing that jumped out was the “Blacks can’t be racist” nonsense. Racism isn’t a white trait it’s a human trait.

The second was the Romney point, it wasn’t a very good one, quite a few people on the right would not support him because they think Mormonism is a cult. So the point about the “left’ was in my opinion incomplete. (Romney was an ineffective governor with no real convictions that’s why he would make a great cabinet sec but a poor leader but that’s a post for my own blog)

Jimmy’s comment was objectively racist, his explanation gives a reason for it but I say it is an excuse. A person has to grow up. It also reminded me of an odd quote from of all things the Bill James Baseball Abstract from the 1980’s. He quotes first pitcher Kirby Higbe saying his arm was strong from throwing rocks at black kids when he was a kid, He follows it with the immortal Satchel Paige saying his arm was strong from throwing rocks at white kids when he was a kid.

I don’t think it was at the point where the comments needed to be deleted but I can see why the thread was closed to make sure it didn’t get there.
I wouldn’t have deleted the comments, I think that is bad form, but it’s his blog and his call.

I didn’t see a comment by Charles in the thread. He calls the liberals of the “neo Charles Johnson variety” He must have gotten the e-mail he immediately referred to as he was typing the post. (I’ve had that happen) and then shifted to his comment about LGF and it’s readers. Not having seen the e-mail in question I don’t know what link it he had.

Ok my thoughts with my homework completed and at partial nights sleep (I’ve gotta start getting more than 4 hours):

I didn’t see the comment Charles left in whatever thread it was in, if anyone has a link to it I’d be interested in reading it to judge the reactions accordingly.

I’m looking at what Dan said in the post. It is blog trash talk but it doesn’t go near the level of calling someone a racist. If I google someone and see a name or blog associated with the word “ugly blog” that is unlikely to do anything in the real world. If you are associated with the word “racist” however that marks you and can ruin you.

Perhaps because the word is used so recklessly these day that some might consider it not as big a deal. I disagree. The real world isn’t in the comment threads or even main posts of blogs. There are flame wars and there are lines, and I think the racist card is a line that needs a whole lot more before it is crossed.

FYI: I have to take my son somewhere as his car is in the shop so I wont be answering any reactions for at least 45 minutes.

588 Pingemi  Fri, Sep 18, 2009 6:11:53am

My kid’s class has been canceled: (Professor has the flu) so I’m saved a trip. Three cheers for e-mail. 20 years ago I would have wasted gas dropping him off and then picking him up when he called me (if he didn’t just hang out). So feel free to have at it at once.

589 Diamond Bullet  Fri, Sep 18, 2009 6:14:18am

Speaking from personal experience, there are certain times of the day in D.C. (particularly when the public schools let out) when the Metro fills up with packs of obnoxious youths. Some are nice, others are right from Lord of the Flies. I usually avoid those cars/trains not so much because it’s threatening so much as all the shouting, grab-assing, loud music, and herd dominance dynamics are really exhausting to deal with, particularly if you’re going more than a few stops. 9/12 was a Saturday, though, so I’m not sure what he was talking about.

590 Pingemi  Fri, Sep 18, 2009 6:35:44am

re: #589 Diamond Bullet

I can’t help but thing of that famous quote from Casablanca concerning certain sections of New York when I read your comment

591 Cato the Elder  Fri, Sep 18, 2009 7:28:06am

re: #585 FamHistoryGuy

From your posts here, you have such a severe hate of Palin that you would believe any negative source not matter how unreliable.

Just because Levi is an asshole doesn’t mean what he says has no truth to it. You think “Vogue” published his article because they thought it was all made up? What a laugh!

592 Pingemi  Fri, Sep 18, 2009 7:36:37am

re: #591 Cato the Elder

I’ll have to keep that point in mind for future reference.

593 Cato the Elder  Fri, Sep 18, 2009 8:11:08am

re: #591 Cato the Elder

I meant to say “Vanity Fair”, of course.

594 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 18, 2009 8:13:24am

re: #587 Pingemi

I did NOT leave any comments there.

595 Charles Johnson  Fri, Sep 18, 2009 8:24:06am

re: #587 Pingemi

I’m looking at what Dan said in the post. It is blog trash talk but it doesn’t go near the level of calling someone a racist. If I google someone and see a name or blog associated with the word “ugly blog” that is unlikely to do anything in the real world. If you are associated with the word “racist” however that marks you and can ruin you.

Here’s a tip on how to avoid that: don’t post racist fantasies on the web about beating up black children.

596 jackfetch  Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:15:24am

I might be bucking the trend here, these days, but aside from being a pointless little “I coulda taken ‘em” fantasy, I don’t really see the rampant racism here. I’ve been around people purposely voicing comments designed to antagonize before… and yeah… it usually works, whether you do something about it or not. Is it the fact that these kids were black making it racist? They saw a bunch of people they don’t agree with, and made sure that group could hear their mockery and disdain. Does feeling the sting of mockery make you racist?

I’m tired of “racism” being tossed around on a daily basis. Is anyone in this scenario asserting the inherent superiority of their race over another? Well, I suppose if you rolled time back to the 50s and turned the kids to white and the blogger to black you’d call them racist… but the converse seems a bit of a stretch.

597 drcordell  Fri, Sep 18, 2009 10:43:31am

re: #596 jackfetch

Is it the fact that these kids were black making it racist?

The fact that Riehl calls them “thugs” despite the fact they were not even talking “to a level that was so loud, or so confrontational that it needed to be addressed.” The guy is a joke.

The DC Metro might as well be the monorail at Disneyland compared to just about any major US city’s pubic transit system. Riehl would probably shit himself with fear on the NYC 4 train two stops into Brooklyn during rush hour. I can only imagine what stain he’d leave on his chair if he had to ride the JMZ at 2 a.m.

598 pingemi  Fri, Sep 18, 2009 3:59:04pm

re: #594 Charles

I think you misread me, I presume that comment that the fellow e-mailed him was from one of your threads on another topic as you said at the start. Do you by any chance know what the comment was?

Since I presume the e-mail wasn’t cc’ed or forwarded to you; unless you made only a single comment on the subject I can’t think that you would remember it off the top of your head. So if you don’t that’s ok.

599 [deleted]  Sat, Sep 19, 2009 1:15:11pm
600 Charles Johnson  Sat, Sep 19, 2009 5:23:13pm

re: #599 dodemployee

Just get off my website, please.


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