Tuesday Evening Music: They Might Be Giants, ‘Your Racist Friend’

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This is where the party ends
I can’t stand here listening to you
And your racist friend
I know politics bore you
But I feel like a hypocrite talking to you
And your racist friend

It was the loveliest party that I’ve ever attended
If anything was broken I’m sure it could be mended
My head can’t tolerate this bobbing and pretending
Listen to some bullet-head and the madness that he’s saying

This is where the party ends
I’ll just sit here wondering how you
Can stand by your racist friend
I know politics bore you
But I feel like a hypocrite talking to you
You and your racist friend

This is where the party ends
I can’t stand here listening to you
And your racist friend
I know politics bore you
But I feel like a hypocrite talking to you
And your racist friend

Out from the kitchen to the bedroom to the hallway
Your friend apologizes, he could see it my way
He let the contents of the bottle do the thinking
Can’t shake the devil’s hand and say you’re only kidding

This is where the party ends
I can’t stand here listening to you
And your racist friend
I know politics bore you
But I feel like a hypocrite talking to you
And your racist friend

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604 comments
1 bofhell  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 3:58:26pm

Clearly the two Johns need to call out Rush.

Of course then they would join Charles in purgatory.

Of course, having TMBG in purgatory would be a good thing!

2 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 3:58:39pm

Interesting. A poster at HA referrs to Levin as a RINO.

3 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 3:59:23pm

I Palindrome I.

Blue Canary

all great tunes.

4 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 3:59:35pm

They kind of remind me of the Talking Heads in a nerdy way.

5 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:00:41pm

re: #4 Ojoe

They kind of remind me of the Talking Heads in a nerdy way.

Hey, now! Let's not get crazy. Two very different things, here.. I'm a fan of both, but they're barely in the same genre. Think of the Talking Heads as Homer, and TMBG as Swift.

6 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:01:43pm

re: #4 Ojoe

They kind of remind me of the Talking Heads in a nerdy way.

On the subject, you don't get nerdier than the Talking Heads, the living, breathing gods of geek-rock.

7 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:02:47pm

re: #5 Guanxi88

Hey, now! Let's not get crazy. Two very different things, here.. I'm a fan of both, but they're barely in the same genre. Think of the Talking Heads as Homer, and TMBG as Swift.

Bart has an uncle named Swift?

8 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:03:09pm

re: #7 MandyManners

Bart has an uncle named Swift?

Were it anyone but you, Mandy, I'd be cross.

9 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:03:28pm

re: #2 Pianobuff

Interesting. A poster at HA referrs to Levin as a RINO.

That's a stretch.

10 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:03:43pm

re: #7 MandyManners

Bart has an uncle named Swift?

That was really funny... who's Bart?

11 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:05:17pm

re: #6 Guanxi88

Geek-rock, LOL, did you just make that term up? It's good.

Then there's Zappa...

"Gregory Peccary"

12 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:06:24pm

Dinner time.

13 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:07:50pm

re: #12 MandyManners

Dinner time.

Have 1/2 bottle of Basil
Will travel

14 bofhell  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:08:25pm

re: #10 Walter L. Newton

That was really funny... who's Bart?

Speaking of which, an upcoming episode of the Simpson's will have them travel to Israel, where Sacha Baron Cohen voices their tour guide. [When asked why Israelis are so rude by Marge, Cohen's character is reported to respond "Well, what do you want with Syria as a neighbor? What do YOU have?? Canada???"] Homer also comes down with a case of Jerusalem Syndrome (a known psychological condition where one believes one is Messiah). And the title of the episode? ...

...The Greatest Story Ever Doh'd!

15 Athens Runaway  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:09:07pm

re: #5 Guanxi88

Hey, now! Let's not get crazy. Two very different things, here.. I'm a fan of both, but they're barely in the same genre. Think of the Talking Heads as Homer, and TMBG as Swift.

re: #7 MandyManners

Bart has an uncle named Swift?

He lives in Springfield, Athens.

16 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:09:56pm

Ok, so I just got a call, I don't have to go to work tonight. The star of the show has had a bad head cold and she is worst today, so we are canceling tonight's rehearsal.

The show is ready to go on Thursday anyway, we are just going through the motions this week with final dress rehearsals. It's a two character show, and they have been ready for weeks.

That's good, since weather service is predicting up to 16 inches of snow tonight where I live. I was already prepared to stay down hill if needed after rehearsal.

Party time. I can sit here and surf and watch the storm snow us in. Gotta love the Rocky Mountains.

17 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:10:39pm

re: #14 bofhell

Speaking of which, an upcoming episode of the Simpson's will have them travel to Israel, where Sacha Baron Cohen voices their tour guide. [When asked why Israelis are so rude by Marge, Cohen's character is reported to respond "Well, what do you want with Syria as a neighbor? What do YOU have?? Canada???"] Homer also comes down with a case of Jerusalem Syndrome (a known psychological condition where one believes one is Messiah). And the title of the episode? ...

...The Greatest Story Ever Doh'd!

I don't watch much Simpsons, but I love Cohen. I will make sure I catch that one.

18 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:13:33pm

TMBG are sorta the art-rock variant of geek-rock, whereas the Talking Heads are the Rolling Stones of the genre.

19 midwestgak  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:16:34pm

Hi Lizards.

20 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:16:59pm

re: #11 Ojoe

Geek-rock, LOL, did you just make that term up? It's good.

Then there's Zappa...

"Gregory Peccary"

Geek-rock is distinguished by the inventiveness of its lyrics, and the poor social skills and standing of its intelligent fans, who find, as I did, relief and inspiration that a geek like David Byrne could ascend Mount Olympus and don a giant beige suit, and lose none of his nerdiness thereby.

21 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:18:16pm

re: #20 Guanxi88

Geek-rock is distinguished by the inventiveness of its lyrics, and the poor social skills and standing of its intelligent fans, who find, as I did, relief and inspiration that a geek like David Byrne could ascend Mount Olympus and don a giant beige suit, and lose none of his nerdiness thereby.

whoa

22 JanglerNPL  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:18:40pm

"Can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding" is one of my all-time favorite lyrics.

23 Mich-again  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:19:40pm

The latest stunt from the NDP, the fascist party in Germany.
Fury at Intimidating Election Stunt
Far-Right NPD Sent Fake Deportation Orders to Immigrant Politicians

Germany's far-right National Democratic Party sent mock deportation orders to the private addresses of several immigrant politicians, instructing them to start finding accommodation and employment in their countries of origin because "foreigners are being returned to their home countries in a step-by-step process."
24 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:21:05pm

Never mind me. I'm just busy building a little birdhouse in my soul.

25 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:22:12pm

re: #24 EmmmieG

Never mind me. I'm just busy building a little birdhouse in my soul.

While you're at it, don't forget to leave a light on.

26 midwestgak  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:24:46pm

re: #16 Walter L. Newton


That's good, since weather service is predicting up to 16 inches of snow tonight where I live. I was already prepared to stay down hill if needed after rehearsal.

Party time. I can sit here and surf and watch the storm snow us in. Gotta love the Rocky Mountains.

Got milk?

27 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:25:38pm

re: #21 albusteve

whoa

Yes, that was my reaction the first time I saw the Stop Making Sense film.

Behold:

Youtube Video
28 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:25:39pm

Dinner... let's see... cake mix and Mountain Dew is what readily comes to mind. I think the effects will wear off of the little one by the time mom gets home from the PTA meeting.

29 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:26:25pm

re: #27 Guanxi88

Yes, that was my reaction the first time I saw the Stop Making Sense film.

Behold:


thanks but I don't care for that stuff

30 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:26:30pm

re: #28 Truck Monkey

Dinner... let's see... cake mix and Mountain Dew is what readily comes to mind. I think the effects will wear off of the little one by the time mom gets home from the PTA meeting.

Cuppa hot coffee, with condensed milk and a tablespoon of sugar should overcome the crash. That's what my favorite uncle used to give me right before sending me home with my mother.

31 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:26:46pm

re: #29 albusteve

thanks but I don't care for that stuff

Eh, tastes differ.

32 Desert Dog  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:27:53pm

re: #27 Guanxi88

Yes, that was my reaction the first time I saw the Stop Making Sense film.

Behold:



from the same concert...a GREAT live band...a GREAT band, period.

Youtube Video
33 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:28:46pm

re: #32 Desert Dog

from the same concert...a GREAT live band...a GREAT band, period.

But the real gem of the show was the Naive Melody; easily one of the best of any work they did, and the lamp bit is simply art.

34 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:29:19pm

re: #26 midwestgak

That's good, since weather service is predicting up to 16 inches of snow tonight where I live. I was already prepared to stay down hill if needed after rehearsal.

Party time. I can sit here and surf and watch the storm snow us in. Gotta love the Rocky Mountains.

Got milk?

Some.

It just started snowing about 1/2 hour ago.

Snowed yesterday, we got about 4 inches, nothing really stuck on the roads, mainly on the trees and ground and most of that was gone by mid-morning today.

But we've had a good 24 hours now of in the 30's cold, so the roads will be more "conditioned" to hold that snow tonight.

My next call at the theatre is 7:00pm tomorrow evening, so maybe this will all be over by then.

If need be, we could go right to opening on Thursday with out any more rehearsals. We'll see what happens.

35 midwestgak  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:29:39pm

Bye Lizards.

36 Desert Dog  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:32:05pm

re: #34 Walter L. Newton

Some.

It just started snowing about 1/2 hour ago.

Snowed yesterday, we got about 4 inches, nothing really stuck on the roads, mainly on the trees and ground and most of that was gone by mid-morning today.

But we've had a good 24 hours now of in the 30's cold, so the roads will be more "conditioned" to hold that snow tonight.

My next call at the theatre is 7:00pm tomorrow evening, so maybe this will all be over by then.

If need be, we could go right to opening on Thursday with out any more rehearsals. We'll see what happens.

No snow in sight here, Walter:
Current weather in Phoenix

37 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:32:17pm

re: #30 Guanxi88

Cuppa hot coffee, with condensed milk and a tablespoon of sugar should overcome the crash. That's what my favorite uncle used to give me right before sending me home with my mother.

My grandfather used to take great joy in "babysitting" my brother and I. We would be so jacked up on sweets by the time my mom arrived that she would literally have to scrape us off of the ceiling. Being a parent myself I now understand why my mother beat us boys. She had to.

38 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:32:25pm

re: #32 Desert Dog

from the same concert...a GREAT live band...a GREAT band, period.

cool aerobics

39 jaunte  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:32:31pm

Good line:
"Can’t shake the devil’s hand and say you’re only kidding."

40 Danny  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:34:14pm

LOL, hilarious post, Charles.

41 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:34:33pm

re: #36 Desert Dog

No snow in sight here, Walter:
Current weather in Phoenix

97 degrees, yuk. Yea, I know, it's a dry warm. This was my first summer in the mountains, and it was always nice, but I think I am going to find out about the trade offs on a comfortable summer versus a normal winter up here.

This'll put hair on your chest.

42 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:35:44pm

re: #37 Truck Monkey

My grandfather used to take great joy in "babysitting" my brother and I. We would be so jacked up on sweets by the time my mom arrived that she would literally have to scrape us off of the ceiling. Being a parent myself I now understand why my mother beat us boys. She had to.

Other thing he'd do is feed me and my cousins raisin bars and other high-fiber treats right before the parents came round. He musta built up one hell of a head of rage against his siblings to do stuff like that. It's hilarious in retrospect, of course.

43 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:36:23pm

re: #38 albusteve

cool aerobics

Pure coke-fueled geekery.

44 Desert Dog  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:36:41pm

re: #33 Guanxi88

But the real gem of the show was the Naive Melody; easily one of the best of any work they did, and the lamp bit is simply art.

I saw them years ago in a small place called the Rainbow Music Hall in Denver when they were touring on the Fear of Music album. Then again after they "hit it big" with Little Creatures at Red Rocks...that was a great show. They are not often put up as great musicians, but frankly, that band rocks...the rhythm section is tight as Nancy Pelosi's face. Tina plays that bass like crazy.

45 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:37:23pm

re: #44 Desert Dog

I saw them years ago in a small place called the Rainbow Music Hall in Denver when they were touring on the Fear of Music album. Then again after they "hit it big" with Little Creatures at Red Rocks...that was a great show. They are not often put up as great musicians, but frankly, that band rocks...the rhythm section is tight as Nancy Pelosi's face. Tina plays that bass like crazy.

Ahh, Ms. Weymoth. Always like her, always liked her.

46 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:37:38pm

re: #43 Guanxi88

Pure coke-fueled geekery.

the song was pretty lousy, too bad about the coke

47 Desert Dog  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:37:59pm

re: #41 Walter L. Newton

97 degrees, yuk. Yea, I know, it's a dry warm. This was my first summer in the mountains, and it was always nice, but I think I am going to find out about the trade offs on a comfortable summer versus a normal winter up here.

This'll put hair on your chest.

I grew up in Aurora out on plains, but I was up in them there mountains quite a bit as a young lad.

48 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:38:17pm

Embattled NY Gov Holds His Ground: “Clearly I’m Running for Re-election,” Paterson Says

gittin' uglier.

49 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:38:40pm

re: #44 Desert Dog

I saw them years ago in a small place called the Rainbow Music Hall in Denver when they were touring on the Fear of Music album. Then again after they "hit it big" with Little Creatures at Red Rocks...that was a great show. They are not often put up as great musicians, but frankly, that band rocks...the rhythm section is tight as Nancy Pelosi's face. Tina plays that bass like crazy.

Gone...

[Link: www.rockymountainnews.com...]

50 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:39:05pm

re: #46 albusteve

the song was pretty lousy, too bad about the coke

Yeah, not their best work, but certainly one of their more famous bits, and certainly every bit as manic as anything else they ever put out. As for the coke, well, it was the 80's...

51 PAUL_MACDONALD  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:40:13pm

It was really odd to watch the decline at HA. First time I've looked at the place since I registered here.

52 Desert Dog  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:41:03pm

re: #49 Walter L. Newton

Gone...

[Link: www.rockymountainnews.com...]

Yes, I know about that. I saw U2 there, I saw Santana there, I saw Tom Petty there...the B-52's...I saw many concerts at that venue. It was the "Cherry Creek Three" movie theatre before that. I saw some movies there before it became the Rainbow. Barry Fey made a nice place to see a show.

53 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:41:34pm

re: #2 Pianobuff

Interesting. A poster at HA referrs to Levin as a RINO.

That doesn't surprise me. Not that I think Mark Levin is somehow a renegade - he isn't.

What doesn't surprise me is that the zealous need to purge the impure that has taken over the Right Wing results in inquisitions of RINO seekers.

Big Tent My Ass.

54 bofhell  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:42:12pm

Of course, the issue with this ENTIRE thread is that (as much as I love them) They Might Be Giants did NOT address this first.

And now for your listening and educational pleasure...

...Tom Lehrer.

One week of every year is designated National Brotherhood Week. This is just one of many such weeks honoring various worthy causes. One of my favorites is National Make-fun-of-the-handicapped Week which Frank Fontaine and Jerry Lewis are in charge of as you know. During National Brotherhood Week various special events are arranged to drive home the message of brotherhood. This year, for example, on the first day of the week Malcolm X was killed which gives you an idea of how effective the whole thing is. I'm sure we all agree that we ought to love one another and I know there are people in the world that do not love their fellow human beings and I hate people like that. Here's a song about National Brotherhood Week.

Oh, the white folks hate the black folks,
And the black folks hate the white folks.
To hate all but the right folks
Is an old established rule.

But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week,
Lena Horne and Sheriff Clarke are dancing cheek to cheek.
It's fun to eulogize
The people you despise,
As long as you don't let 'em in your school.

Oh, the poor folks hate the rich folks,
And the rich folks hate the poor folks.
All of my folks hate all of your folks,
It's American as apple pie.

But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week,
New Yorkers love the Puerto Ricans 'cause it's very chic.
Step up and shake the hand
Of someone you can't stand.
You can tolerate him if you try.

Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
And the Hindus hate the Muslims,
And everybody hates the Jews.

But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week,
It's National Everyone-smile-at-one-another-hood Week.
Be nice to people who
Are inferior to you.
It's only for a week, so have no fear.
Be grateful that it doesn't last all year!

55 bofhell  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:42:59pm

re: #54 bofhell

Screwed up the YouTube link.

Youtube Video
56 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:44:13pm

My favorite They Might Be Giants song ever.

57 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:45:28pm

Name the artist who said this...

"Hipsters, flipsters and finger-poppin' daddies: knock me your lobes."

58 MrC_5150  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:46:13pm
Dedicated to the lovely folks at Hot Air.

'Sup wit dat?

59 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:46:17pm

re: #57 Walter L. Newton

Name the artist who said this...

"Hipsters, flipsters and finger-poppin' daddies: knock me your lobes."

The finger-poppin' daddies puts it in the 50's or early 60's. Bing Crosby?

60 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:47:03pm

Got a call from Joe scarborough's producer today, to possibly be on the Morning Joe show to talk about ... wait for it ... Glenn Beck.

61 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:47:21pm

re: #57 Walter L. Newton

Name the artist who said this...

"Hipsters, flipsters and finger-poppin' daddies: knock me your lobes."

It's not William F. Buckley, but I'm close, aren't I?

62 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:47:39pm

re: #60 Charles

Got a call from Joe scarborough's producer today, to possibly be on the Morning Joe show to talk about ... wait for it ... Glenn Beck.

You gonna do it?

63 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:47:57pm

re: #60 Charles

Got a call from Joe scarborough's producer today, to possibly be on the Morning Joe show to talk about ... wait for it ... Glenn Beck.

I predicted your phone would be ringing several days ago. Going to do it?

64 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:48:01pm

re: #59 EmmmieG

The finger-poppin' daddies puts it in the 50's or early 60's. Bing Crosby?

50's yes, Crosby nope... no googling... he was a stand up comic, really a monologist, did Sullivan, 15 albums...

65 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:48:04pm

re: #60 Charles

Got a call from Joe scarborough's producer today, to possibly be on the Morning Joe show to talk about ... wait for it ... Glenn Beck.

go for it.

66 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:48:08pm

giving money that we don't have away to filthy rich countries that hate us...insane how your hard earned money gets spent


[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

67 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:48:17pm

re: #61 Pianobuff

It's not William F. Buckley, but I'm close, aren't I?

Yep...

68 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:48:38pm

Probably because of this post at Media Matters:

[Link: mediamatters.org...]

69 avanti  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:48:49pm

re: #60 Charles

Got a call from Joe scarborough's producer today, to possibly be on the Morning Joe show to talk about ... wait for it ... Glenn Beck.

Go for it, please ??

70 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:48:52pm

re: #67 Walter L. Newton

Yep...

Didn't want to spoil it. That's stretching it back...

71 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:48:53pm

re: #64 Walter L. Newton

50's yes, Crosby nope... no googling... he was a stand up comic, really a monologist, did Sullivan, 15 albums...

Lenny Bruce?

72 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:49:29pm

re: #64 Walter L. Newton

50's yes, Crosby nope... no googling... he was a stand up comic, really a monologist, did Sullivan, 15 albums...

Steve Allen?

73 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:49:49pm

re: #71 Truck Monkey

Lenny Bruce?

Nope...

A clue... The Nazz, first recorded in 1952, which describes Jesus' working profession as that of a "carpenter kitty",

74 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:50:26pm
FLV Video
75 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:50:29pm

re: #72 EmmmieG

Steve Allen?

Nope... another clue...

On October 19, 1960, he was scheduled to play club dates and do another Ed Sullivan show in New York, but his New York City Cabaret Card was seized, purportedly because of a 1941 arrest for marijuana possession. Cabaret cards were necessary to appear in nightclubs and were often withheld for political reasons, and as a way to solicit payoffs. Without the card he was unable to perform. He attempted to get the card reinstated and more than three dozen major figures in the entertainment and arts world showed up for a hearing on the matter.

Sounds like Lenny, but no.

76 Gus  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:50:35pm

re: #60 Charles

Got a call from Joe scarborough's producer today, to possibly be on the Morning Joe show to talk about ... wait for it ... Glenn Beck.

Do it. I caught a clip of that "Morning Joe" segment earlier today.

77 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:50:53pm
78 That's Glenn Beck to you  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:51:06pm

re: #60 Charles

Got a call from Joe scarborough's producer today, to possibly be on the Morning Joe show to talk about ... wait for it ... Glenn Beck.

Joe Scarborough?

Have you noticed how many "o"s are in his name? He is a secret Obama supporter and therefore a communist.

Just so you know for the show.

79 Danny  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:51:16pm

I love the excerpt:

SCARBOROUGH: You cannot say that the president of the United States, Mike Barnicle, hates all white people. You cannot call the president of the United States a racist. You cannot wallow in conspiracy theories as he did for about a month, suggesting that FEMA might be setting up concentration camps and going on Fox & Friends and saying, "I can't disprove it," and then wait a month. You can't stir up that type of hatred -- calling the president a racist.

BARNICLE: Yeah.

SCARBOROUGH: And then say, "I'm just a rodeo clown."

80 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:51:35pm

No links to Hot Air in the comments please.

81 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:52:06pm

re: #60 Charles

Got a call from Joe scarborough's producer today, to possibly be on the Morning Joe show to talk about ... wait for it ... Glenn Beck.

Oh Noes! You really should dress like a Nazi or a Russian General...Don't forget to stick out your tongue before each commercial break..Fight fire with fire!
///
Like shooting fire in a barrel..

82 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:53:21pm

Ok... answer... Lord Buckley...

[Link: www.lordbuckley.com...]

If you don't know him, become familiar.

83 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:53:41pm

re: #69 avanti

well look at that, we DO agree on something LOL

84 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:53:42pm

Speaking of Beck - I'm beginning to wonder if he's left open a wide open gap for GOP pols to create distance.

Now they can plausibly point to facts that:

- He's not a Republican
- He would have voted for Clinton over McCain
- He believes the country would have been in worse hands with McCain than Obama.

They have their way out if they so choose.

85 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:53:49pm

re: #81 HoosierHoops

Oh Noes! You really should dress like a Nazi or a Russian General...Don't forget to stick out your tongue before each commercial break..Fight fire with fire!
///
Like shooting fire in a barrel..

Mixed metaphor alert. Is it like shouting fire in a theatre or shooting fish in a barrel...

86 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:54:23pm

F.D.A. Bans Sale of Flavored Cigarettes

Soft-drinks...vodka...gum...and finally food, next.

Oh and a tax is not a tax.

Trust me. I promise...

87 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:54:48pm

re: #85 Truck Monkey

Mixed metaphor alert. Is it like shouting fire in a theatre or shooting fish in a barrel...

LOL
Spelling check /on
Idiot check /off

88 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:54:53pm

re: #74 Charles

Is that Andrea Mitchell? She looks uncomfortable with the topic.

89 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:55:49pm

re: #88 Sharmuta

Is that Andrea Mitchell? She looks uncomfortable with the topic.

There is an Alan Greenspan joke in there somewhere...

90 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:56:23pm

re: #86 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

F.D.A. Bans Sale of Flavored Cigarettes

Soft-drinks...vodka...gum...and finally food, next.

Oh and a tax is not a tax.

Trust me. I promise...

uuuh, isn't menthol a flavor?

91 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:56:50pm

re: #86 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

F.D.A. Bans Sale of Flavored Cigarettes

Soft-drinks...vodka...gum...and finally food, next.

Oh and a tax is not a tax.

Trust me. I promise...

It's not a tax if they call it a fee. User fees and some such things. They are doing it for your own good. Don't you see?

/

92 rwmofo  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:57:33pm

re: #60 Charles

Got a call from Joe scarborough's producer today, to possibly be on the Morning Joe show to talk about ... wait for it ... Glenn Beck.

Would you consider going on any show on Fox - even Redeye?

93 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:58:40pm

re: #91 Truck Monkey

It's not a tax if they call it a fee. User fees and some such things. They are doing it for your own good. Don't you see?

/

/Great, I wonder how long before they tax my beer rentals...

94 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 4:59:32pm

re: #81 HoosierHoops

Oh Noes! You really should dress like a Nazi or a Russian General...Don't forget to stick out your tongue before each commercial break..Fight fire with fire!
///
Like shooting fire in a barrel..

One of the funniest threads ever was when Charles appeared on TV a few years ago. There were hundreds of comments full of suggestions, What to wear, What to say, How to breathe, trust me, I'm in the business... It was hilarious.

95 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:01:13pm

"he knew she was a square, he knew she was an octagonhead and he knew it was the wrong thing to do, to put such a square chick as she was up against such a tight stud as he was on the bed of high sensuous consequence. . . and they bad rapped the cat every step of the way."

[ Bad-Rapping of the Marquis De Sade ]

96 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:01:16pm

re: #93 brookly red

/Great, I wonder how long before they tax my beer rentals...

The tax would double if consumed with Chinese food rentals.
/you're starting to get the picture

97 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:01:47pm

re: #94 wrenchwench

One of the funniest threads ever was when Charles appeared on TV a few years ago. There were hundreds of comments full of suggestions, What to wear, What to say, How to breathe, trust me, I'm in the business... It was hilarious.

Heh - I heard there was a new Beck t-shirt that just came out...

98 freetoken  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:02:17pm

re: #94 wrenchwench

Hmmm... sounds like a suggestion to get things rolling...

Charles - do not wear a hat. Do wear a pink shirt. Ear-rings are optional.

99 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:02:36pm

re: #96 Truck Monkey

The tax would double if consumed with Chinese food rentals.
/you're starting to get the picture

What the hell is "renting" beer and chinese food?

100 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:03:18pm

re: #96 Truck Monkey

The tax would double if consumed with Chinese food rentals.
/you're starting to get the picture

what do they do when the taxes reach 101% ?

101 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:03:42pm

re: #98 freetoken

Hmmm... sounds like a suggestion to get things rolling...

Charles - do not wear a hat. Do wear a pink shirt. Ear-rings are optional.

Hey, Scarborough is wearing a pink shirt in the clip above. They can't BOTH wear a pink shirt!!!1!

102 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:03:45pm

Didn't Charles do an hour on the Tammy Bruce show? Better venue. TV is way too soundbite oriented. I don't like Joe Scarborough that much.

103 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:04:38pm

I guess Joe Scarborough's producer didn't get the memo about how "irrelevant" LGF has become. heehee

104 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:04:51pm

re: #99 Walter L. Newton

It takes a real whiz to find that out.

105 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:05:09pm

re: #99 Walter L. Newton

What the hell is "renting" beer and chinese food?

Named such because you really don't buy either of them. Short term rentals at best. Now do you know what we're talking about?

106 The Left  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:05:22pm

w00t! A TBMG thread! And Joe Scarbourough calling CJ! O frabjous day, calloo, callay!

In other news, I made the mistake of checking out RSM and HA. Holy guacamole.

It was bad enough when the wingnutosphere was defending RSM against charges of racism and white supremacism, despite all the evidence...but RSM is so purely batshit insane with hate right now. I truly can't understand how anyone could be reading him and not realise he's completely unhinged.

107 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:06:41pm

re: #101 wrenchwench

Hey, Scarborough is wearing a pink shirt in the clip above. They can't BOTH wear a pink shirt!!!1!

Wear a test pattern shirt and talk 'too close' to the microphone they provide you.

108 Gus  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:06:45pm

re: #58 MrC_5150

'Sup wit dat?

'Sup wit dat?

Here's what's up with that.

Not only that he links to the stalker site in that blog at Hot Air.

109 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:07:42pm

re: #105 Truck Monkey

Named such because you really don't buy either of them. Short term rentals at best. Now do you know what we're talking about?

Runs through you like Mexican water...

;-P

110 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:08:06pm

re: #106 iceweasel

What the hell is RSM?

111 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:09:21pm

re: #110 Walter L. Newton

What the hell is RSM?

RSM=Robert Stacy McCain, formerly of the Washington Times.

112 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:09:24pm

re: #57 Walter L. Newton

Name the artist who said this...

"Hipsters, flipsters and finger-poppin' daddies: knock me your lobes."

I heard that piece somewhere years ago (and it was old then), but I can't place it.

113 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:09:56pm

re: #102 Truck Monkey

Didn't Charles do an hour on the Tammy Bruce show? Better venue. TV is way too soundbite oriented. I don't like Joe Scarborough that much.

No that was the Tammy Faye show...All they talked about was Makeup, Jesus and Jim Baker..Very boring interview..Although the ACORN Tie Dyed Tee shirt stood out and the Camo Beck hat popped on TV...
*wink*

114 Mich-again  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:10:46pm

re: #106 iceweasel

I truly can't understand how anyone could be reading him and not realise he's completely unhinged. Agreed. He's even cozying up to Baron Bodissey. The enemy of my enemy is my friend!

115 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:10:46pm

re: #104 Ojoe

It takes a real whiz to find that out.

A Bear Whiz beer.
Like my daddy said, "Son, it's in the water. That's why it's yellow"

Youtube Video
116 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:11:31pm

re: #113 HoosierHoops

No that was the Tammy Faye show...All they talked about was Makeup, Jesus and Jim Baker..Very boring interview..Although the ACORN Tie Dyed Tee shirt stood out and the Camo Beck hat popped on TV...
*wink*

She's dead Jim. Tammy Fay is from my home state of Minnesota! I'm kvelling with pride.
;-)

117 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:13:14pm

re: #114 Mich-again

I truly can't understand how anyone could be reading him and not realise he's completely unhinged. Agreed. He's even cozying up to Baron Bodissey. The enemy of my enemy is my friend!

Robert Stacy McCain is trying to take advantage of this right wing feeding frenzy and all the dupes who are standing up for him, and legitimize the Eurofascists and hatebloggers like Gates of Vienna. That's his agenda -- he's a writer for the European racist website Takimag. Connections.

118 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:13:38pm

re: #112 Kosh's Shadow

I heard that piece somewhere years ago (and it was old then), but I can't place it.

Lord Buckley

119 Sloppy  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:13:53pm

Re: Walter L Newton

My son in Denver advises me I should move there to escape the sometimes appalling Nebraska winters. I don't plan to do so, but nonetheless I watch and enjoy your weather reports. Keep 'em coming.

120 The Left  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:14:30pm

BTW, I realise most people here don't like Glenn Greenwald, but I thought he said some very perceptive things today about Beck:

Increasingly, there is great difficulty in understanding not only Beck's political orientation but, even more so, the movement that has sprung up around him. Within that confusion lies several important observations about our political culture, particularly the inability to process anything that does not fall comfortably into the conventional "left-right" dichotomy through which everything is understood.

Some of this confusion is attributable to the fact that Beck himself doesn't really appear to have any actual, identifiable political beliefs; he just mutates into whatever is likely to draw the most attention for himself and whatever satisfies his emotional cravings of the moment. Although he now parades around under a rhetorical banner of small-government liberty, anti-imperialism, and opposition to the merger of corporations and government (as exemplified by the Bush-sponsored Wall Street bailout), it wasn't all that long ago that he was advocating exactly the opposite: paying homage to the Patriot Act, defending the Wall Street bailout and arguing it should have been larger, and spouting standard neoconservative cartoon propaganda about The Global Islamo-Nazi Jihadists and all that it justifies. Even the quasi-demented desire for a return to 9/12 -- as though the country should be stuck permanently in a state of terrorism-induced trauma and righteous, nationalistic fury over an allegedly existential Enemy -- is the precise antithesis of the war-opposing, neocon-hating views held by many libertarian and paleoconservative factions with which Beck has now associated himself. Still other aspects of his ranting are obviously grounded in highly familiar, right-wing paranoia.

So it's not surprising that confusion has arisen over someone who transformed overnight from a fairly typical Weekly Standard/Wall St. Journal Editorial Page/Bush-following polemicist into some sort of trans-partisan populist libertarian. All of that, in turn, is colored by the powerful influences on him from the profoundly strange conspiratorial Mormonism pioneered by Cleon Skousen, as documented by the superb Salon series authored by Alexander Zaitchik. Ultimately, Beck himself is just a histrionic intellectual mess: willing to latch onto any hysterical accusations and conspiracy theories that provide some momentary benefit, no matter how contradictory they might be from one moment to the next. His fears, resentments and religious principles seem fixed, but not his political beliefs. Like the establishment leadership of both political parties, he has no core political principles or fixed, identifiable ideology. His description of himself as a "rodeo clown" might be the most perceptive thing he's ever said. Attempts to classify him on the conventional political spectrum are destined to fail, and attempts to demonize him as some sort of standard Republican bogeyman will inevitably be so over-simplified as to be false. Such efforts assume far more coherence than he possesses.

Anyway, I thought this was good.

121 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:14:52pm

re: #118 Walter L. Newton

Lord Buckley

I think I have it on a collection of old comedy on vinyl somewhere. I really have to go through it and digitize what I want to listen to.

122 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:15:24pm

The white supremacists at Political Cesspool are very disappointed that RS McCain didn't come out and say openly that all other races are inferior:

[Link: 74.125.155.132...]

(Google cache link. Hate site. Beware.)

123 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:15:34pm

re: #116 Truck Monkey

She's dead Jim. Tammy Fay is from my home state of Minnesota! I'm kvelling with pride.
;-)

What ever possessed anyone to travel thousands of miles across the ocean to the new world.. And then immediately go north to Minnesota? Was Florida over flowed with retirees then also? Is it in your genes?
*wink*

124 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:15:54pm

One of my personal favorite songs/videos from the 80's. I was a teenager, so this was pretty deep thinking for me:

Youtube Video
125 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:16:01pm

re: #115 Kosh's Shadow

"Papoon for President. Not Insane."

126 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:16:04pm

re: #119 Sloppy

Re: Walter L Newton

My son in Denver advises me I should move there to escape the sometimes appalling Nebraska winters. I don't plan to do so, but nonetheless I watch and enjoy your weather reports. Keep 'em coming.

Will do...

127 Ojoe  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:17:21pm

BBL

128 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:17:28pm

re: #123 HoosierHoops

What ever possessed anyone to travel thousands of miles across the ocean to the new world.. And then immediately go north to Minnesota? Was Florida over flowed with retirees then also? Is it in your genes?
*wink*

I think that some parts of MN reminded my forefathers of life on the fjords. I don't think that FL was habitable pre-conditioning. Some think it is still not habitable. ;-0

129 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:17:38pm

re: #123 HoosierHoops

What ever possessed anyone to travel thousands of miles across the ocean to the new world.. And then immediately go north to Minnesota? Was Florida over flowed with retirees then also? Is it in your genes?
*wink*

Diane West quote? Ancestors traveled many miles to find someplace that was just as bad as the place they left.

130 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:17:39pm

re: #120 iceweasel

A Jackson Pollock of political ideology?

131 The Left  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:17:47pm

re: #117 Charles

Robert Stacy McCain is trying to take advantage of this right wing feeding frenzy and all the dupes who are standing up for him, and legitimize the Eurofascists and hatebloggers like Gates of Vienna. That's his agenda -- he's a writer for the European racist website Takimag. Connections.

He's also ecstatic that people are finally reading him. It wasn't that long ago that he was doing mournful posts about the difficulty of getting traffic. This is the best thing that could have happened to him (from his perspective). That's why he can't shut up about LGF and is actively encouraging all LGF haters to read him. It's not just that he can't let it go-- he doesn't WANT to let it go.

My hope is that some of the people who were endorsing him before are reading his increasingly deranged posts. It won't make them retract what they've said, but it will hopefully make them back away from him. The guy is so obviously deranged it's like a blogging version of Glenn Beck.

132 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:18:22pm

re: #125 Ojoe

"Papoon for President. Not Insane."

That's better than any of the choices we're likely to have in 2012. Or had in 2008 for that matter.

133 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:18:30pm

re: #64 Walter L. Newton

50's yes, Crosby nope... no googling... he was a stand up comic, really a monologist, did Sullivan, 15 albums...

Newhart.

134 J.S.  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:19:16pm

OT

Lou Dobbs had an excellent program on tonight...including a rigorous debate, asking the question to four guests: "Is the United Nations irrelevant?" very informative, no screaming, no one talking/screaming over the other, well moderated, considerate, honest debate...(Later on, there was also a panel discussion with respect to Obama's address to the UN -- and Ed Rollins made a prediction -- I recall back in 2008, during the campaign, October?, Rollins pronounced that the McCain campaign was over (that McCain would lose and lose big time)...at the time I was annoyed...but, I have to give the guy credit -- he got it right...Now he's saying some things (I'm going to wait for the transcript), and it's worth considering (to say the least)...Rollins is predicting what may be Obama's downfall...

135 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:19:46pm

re: #133 Guanxi88

Newhart.

re: #133 Guanxi88

Newhart.

Lord Buckley

[Link: www.lordbuckley.com...]

136 Aye Pod  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:20:03pm

Special AKA - Racist Friend

Youtube Video
137 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:20:09pm

re: #134 J.S.

OT

Lou Dobbs had an excellent program on tonight...including a rigorous debate, asking the question to four guests: "Is the United Nations irrelevant?" very informative, no screaming, no one talking/screaming over the other, well moderated, considerate, honest debate...(Later on, there was also a panel discussion with respect to Obama's address to the UN -- and Ed Rollins made a prediction -- I recall back in 2008, during the campaign, October?, Rollins pronounced that the McCain campaign was over (that McCain would lose and lose big time)...at the time I was annoyed...but, I have to give the guy credit -- he got it right...Now he's saying some things (I'm going to wait for the transcript), and it's worth considering (to say the least)...Rollins is predicting what may be Obama's downfall...

Afghanistan?

138 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:20:37pm

re: #125 Ojoe

"Papoon for President. Not Insane."

who?

139 Salamantis  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:20:38pm

Whatever you do, Charles, don't cry on the show!

/That's Beck's schtick...;~)

140 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:21:06pm

re: #137 Pianobuff

Afghanistan?

God I hope not. The worst thing we could do is walk away from Afghanistan.

141 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:21:07pm

re: #131 iceweasel

LGF cast-offs are like gold to those who root around in political garbage dumps.

142 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:21:45pm

re: #140 Truck Monkey

God I hope not. The worst thing we could do is walk away from Afghanistan.

My friend - I'm getting a bad feeling about it though.

143 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:21:55pm

re: #139 Salamantis

Whatever you do, Charles, don't cry on the show!

/That's Beck's schtick...;~)

Making it even better. Load up on the snark and the self deferential material. Do you need some joke writers?

144 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:22:28pm

re: #143 Truck Monkey

Making it even better. Load up on the snark and the self deferential material. Do you need some joke writers?

Puppets and action figures are a plus.

145 Salamantis  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:23:10pm

re: #144 Pianobuff

Puppets and action figures are a plus.

Paper mache' FTW!

146 Danny  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:23:20pm

re: #122 Charles

The white supremacists at Political Cesspool are very disappointed that RS McCain didn't come out and admit that all other races are inferior:

[Link: 74.125.155.132...]

Get Scarborough to put this stuff on the air.
(Google cache link. Hate site. Beware.)

147 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:23:44pm

Robert Spencer says: Robert Stacy McCain is a genius.

I'm almost willing to agree -- because he's driven Spencer to the point where he's openly supporting a white supremacist.

148 Mich-again  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:24:05pm

re: #122 Charles

from that link..

In other words, it looks like he weaseled out. He apparently once took a stand for truth, and is now embarrassed about it, and doesn’t want to lose all his fans among big shot neocon bloggers, or his 10,000 readers a day.

But I have a feeling that some of his blogging buddies aren’t gong to be satisfied with his “clarification.” Certainly Charles Johnson isn’t likely to let him get away with it.

Now thats kind of funny in a sick way. RSM's white supremacist fans feel betrayed because he abandoned them all for his neocon blogging buddies. Ha.

149 Truck Monkey  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:24:58pm

re: #142 Pianobuff

My friend - I'm getting a bad feeling about it though.

He is at the point where he might not win politically no matter what he does in A-stan. I just pray for the troops who are sent in to harms way while our politicians dawdle. The whole country is going to lose in the end.

150 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:25:43pm

re: #138 brookly red

who?



The Natural Surrealist Party candidate, George Papoon. He's Not Insane!
Old Firesign Theater bit.

151 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:26:26pm

re: #149 Truck Monkey

He is at the point where he might not win politically no matter what he does in A-stan. I just pray for the troops who are sent in to harms way while our politicians dawdle. The whole country is going to lose in the end.

The worst thing would be half an effort.

152 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:26:33pm

re: #147 Charles

Robert Spencer says: Robert Stacy McCain is a genius.

I'm almost willing to agree -- because he's driven Spencer to the point where he's openly supporting a white supremacist.

McCain has finished you utterly? Bobby is delusional.

153 wrenchwench  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:27:04pm

re: #147 Charles

Robert Spencer says: Robert Stacy McCain is a genius.

I'm almost willing to agree -- because he's driven Spencer to the point where he's openly supporting a white supremacist.

The enemy of his enemy is going to take him down--and he's enjoying the ride...

154 The Left  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:27:40pm

re: #152 Sharmuta

McCain has finished you utterly? Bobby is delusional.

My favourite part was this:
2 Comments.

From the same person.

...and one of them says only "First".

heh.

155 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:27:50pm

re: #150 Kosh's Shadow


The Natural Surrealist Party candidate, George Papoon. He's Not Insane!
Old Firesign Theater bit.

I never got past the dwarf & the plyers thing...

156 Salamantis  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:27:59pm

re: #152 Sharmuta

McCain has finished you utterly? Bobby is delusional.

Wishful thinking can lead to that when it reaches incandescent intensity...

157 freetoken  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:28:13pm

re: #147 Charles

What a twisted mind it is to believe that someone like RSM has the moral high ground in all of this.

158 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:29:24pm

re: #147 Charles

Robert Spencer says: Robert Stacy McCain is a genius.

I'm almost willing to agree -- because he's driven Spencer to the point where he's openly supporting a white supremacist.

Hooray for ethnic nationalism!
/Spencer

159 Salamantis  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:29:33pm

After RS and RSM psychologically reify their fantasies, ya think they'll try to immanentize the eschaton next?

/

160 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:29:44pm

re: #155 brookly red

I never got past the dwarf & the plyers thing...

In college, we could quote most of their albums, and did our own similar comedy. I don't want to give the titles, because it might just be possible to figure out who I am, and I'd rather not do that.

161 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:30:10pm

re: #157 freetoken

What a twisted mind it is to believe that someone like RSM has the moral high ground in all of this.

We're talking about Robert Spencer- the man who says he'd never speak at a neo-nazi event while simultaneously defending the people who he won't go speak to.

162 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:30:14pm

re: #152 Sharmuta

Sharm

Did you hear that part on that interview today that I linked to?

163 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:30:36pm

re: #160 Kosh's Shadow

In college, we could quote most of their albums, and did our own similar comedy. I don't want to give the titles, because it might just be possible to figure out who I am, and I'd rather not do that.

Daves not here.

164 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:30:53pm

re: #157 freetoken

Spencer was on some radio show earlier today talking about deporting all the Muslims. He's feeling comfortable in this new environment.

165 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:30:54pm

re: #159 Salamantis

After RS and RSM psychologically reify their fantasies, ya think they'll try to immanentize the eschaton next?

/

RS, as a medical term, stands for 'Repetitive Stress' if I'm not mistaken.

166 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:33:04pm

re: #164 Killgore Trout

Spencer was on some radio show earlier today talking about deporting all the Muslims. He's feeling comfortable in this new environment.

/gee, if someone was only half Muslim, would they be sent to Jersey?

167 freetoken  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:33:20pm

re: #164 Killgore Trout

He really said that. All muslims?

168 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:33:21pm

re: #159 Salamantis

After RS and RSM psychologically reify their fantasies, ya think they'll try to immanentize the eschaton next?

/

You joke, but this is what they do; this what all Gnostic movements do.

169 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:33:25pm

re: #164 Killgore Trout

Spencer was on some radio show earlier today talking about deporting all the Muslims. He's feeling comfortable in this new environment.

[Link: www.850koa.com...]

170 Mich-again  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:34:37pm
Asked about the 2002 Signorile column in a 2006 radio interview with Alan Colmes, McCain said: "I didn't say that; what I said was that people have the right to their own opinions. If they're not discriminating, they're not harming anyone in any way, they have a right to their own opinion." [4] However, he did admit to posting to Free Republic under the name BurkeCalhounDabney. All of BurkeCalhounDabney's posts to Free Republic were deleted from the site after Signorile's column was published.

RSM posted at Free Republic with a sock puppet? What a genius.

171 The Left  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:35:40pm

re: #159 Salamantis

After RS and RSM psychologically reify their fantasies, ya think they'll try to immanentize the eschaton next?

/

Eschaton is also the name of Duncan Black's blog (aka Atrios). It'd be fun to see them try!

172 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:35:55pm

re: #170 Mich-again

RSM posted at Free Republic with a sock puppet? What a genius.

Let's see: Edmund Burke, John C. Calhoun, and Dabney Coleman?

Odd triumvirate.

173 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:39:15pm

re: #167 freetoken

He really said that. All muslims?

Yes, He bemoaned that nobody was working on devising a plan to outlaw Islam fit within the Constitution.

174 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:40:07pm

re: #170 Mich-again

RSM posted at Free Republic with a sock puppet? What a genius.

He posted a lot at Free Republic and all of the articles have been deleted now. (Guess why?) But there are cached copies available.

He posted links to outright neo-Nazi sites like Bill White's overthrow.com (now offline) and outright white supremacist sites like American Renaissance.

Here's a page at Free Republic with links to his deleted posts, including one to overthrow.com:

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

175 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:40:28pm

re: #173 Killgore Trout

Yes, He bemoaned that nobody was working on devising a plan to outlaw Islam fit within the Constitution.

"Look, the First Amendment precludes the Establishment of religion, not the dis-establishment of it. And the whole 14th Amendment thing, well, that was before they came here."

176 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:40:30pm

re: #106 iceweasel

w00t! A TBMG thread! And Joe Scarbourough calling CJ! O frabjous day, calloo, callay!

Hou-Dee-Doo!

Yeow!

177 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:41:27pm

re: #174 Charles

He posted a lot at Free Republic and all of the articles have been deleted now. But there are cached copies available.

He posted links to outright neo-Nazi sites like Bill White's overthrow.com (now offline) and outright white supremacist sites like American Renaissance.

Here's a page at Free Republic with links to his deleted posts, including one to overthrow.com:

[Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

What a f**king loser, surrounding himself with and supporting f**king losers...

178 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:41:52pm

re: #173 Killgore Trout

Yes, He bemoaned that nobody was working on devising a plan to outlaw Islam fit within the Constitution.

I listened to it, and I think Spencer would be able to argue he was only talking about stopping Muslim immigration. He doesn't actually say he wants to deport them all, but it was very much in the context of the discussion.

In other words, there's weasel room.

179 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:41:53pm

re: #177 talon_262

What a f**king loser, surrounding himself with and supporting f**king losers...

Ya dance with the one that brung ya, I guess.

180 theheat  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:41:57pm

This is a lot of fun, The Origin of Stupidity.

Youtube Video
181 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:42:26pm

re: #86 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

F.D.A. Bans Sale of Flavored Cigarettes

Soft-drinks...vodka...gum...and finally food, next.

Oh and a tax is not a tax.

Trust me. I promise...

Dirty, rotten bastards.

182 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:43:13pm

re: #163 brookly red

Daves not here.

He's doing time after opening the wrong door in "Let's Make a Dope Deal"
/Cheech and Chong

183 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:44:24pm

re: #178 Charles

In other words, there's weasel room.


Ah, Ok.

184 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:44:30pm

If anyone's wondering why I removed all links to PJ Media, it's because they have also lost their freaking minds and are letting Robert Stacy McCain post there.

185 Velvet Elvis  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:44:40pm

re: #173 Killgore Trout

Yes, He bemoaned that nobody was working on devising a plan to outlaw Islam fit within the Constitution.

File that under "unclear on the concept."

186 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:45:14pm

re: #182 Kosh's Shadow

He's doing time after opening the wrong door in "Let's Make a Dope Deal"
/Cheech and Chong

that much time? wow musta been dah rock-a-fella laws...

187 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:45:22pm

re: #182 Kosh's Shadow

He's doing time after opening the wrong door in "Let's Make a Dope Deal"
/Cheech and Chong

"I'll take the reds, man!"

188 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:45:31pm

re: #178 Charles

I listened to it, and I think Spencer would be able to argue he was only talking about stopping Muslim immigration. He doesn't actually say he wants to deport them all, but it was very much in the context of the discussion.

In other words, there's weasel room.

It certainly was weasel words since he was talking about immigration and then mentioned that you can't tell the moderates from the radicals.

I was listening live, and it came across that way to me, that he was suggesting deportation.

I didn't listen to the podcast.

Does anyone have a time marker for his comment?

189 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:45:33pm

re: #172 Guanxi88

Let's see: Edmund Burke, John C. Calhoun, and Dabney Coleman?

Odd triumvirate.

A better bet is Virginius Dabney, don't you think?

190 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:45:38pm

re: #181 MandyManners

Chocolate, vanilla, and cloves are among the ingredients commonly used to make tobacco fit for smoking. Angelica, licorice root, raisins, dates, and a host of other food-grade flavorings go into the "sauces" used to dress tobacco before it undergoes secondary fermentation to make it worth smoking in the first place. This is nothing but yet another step toward the outright regulation of all tobacco products in any form whatsoever as a prelude to their eventual outlawing except by prescription.

191 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:46:34pm

re: #189 Pianobuff

A better bet is Virginius Dabney, don't you think?

Nahh, I think Dabney Coleman was a far better character actor than Virginius Dabney.

192 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:48:17pm

re: #188 Walter L. Newton

It certainly was weasel words since he was talking about immigration and then mentioned that you can't tell the moderates from the radicals.

I was listening live, and it came across that way to me, that he was suggesting deportation.

I didn't listen to the podcast.

Does anyone have a time marker for his comment?

It's about 33 minutes into the segment.

193 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:48:22pm

re: #191 Guanxi88

Nahh, I think Dabney Coleman was a far better character actor than Virginius Dabney.

There's also Robert Lewis Dabney. I say it's either this guy or Virginius. They both have an interesting 'confederate' pedigree.

194 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:48:30pm

re: #190 Guanxi88

Chocolate, vanilla, and cloves are among the ingredients commonly used to make tobacco fit for smoking. Angelica, licorice root, raisins, dates, and a host of other food-grade flavorings go into the "sauces" used to dress tobacco before it undergoes secondary fermentation to make it worth smoking in the first place. This is nothing but yet another step toward the outright regulation of all tobacco products in any form whatsoever as a prelude to their eventual outlawing except by prescription.

But, think of the children being tempted to smoke by all of theose fancy flavored cigarettes!

///

195 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:48:38pm

re: #190 Guanxi88

Chocolate, vanilla, and cloves are among the ingredients commonly used to make tobacco fit for smoking. Angelica, licorice root, raisins, dates, and a host of other food-grade flavorings go into the "sauces" used to dress tobacco before it undergoes secondary fermentation to make it worth smoking in the first place. This is nothing but yet another step toward the outright regulation of all tobacco products in any form whatsoever as a prelude to their eventual outlawing except by prescription.

but what about menthol?? thats a flavoring...

196 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:49:05pm

re: #191 Guanxi88

Nahh, I think Dabney Coleman was a far better character actor than Virginius Dabney.

Buffalo Bill was a great show, though - I'll concede that.

197 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:49:19pm

OT: I watched City of God today. If you like really gritty gangster movies you'll like it. Don't watch the trailer on youtube because it was a very poorly marketed movie. Very much worth watching.

198 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:49:37pm

re: #192 Charles

It's about 33 minutes into the segment.

Thanks.

199 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:50:10pm

re: #195 brookly red

but what about menthol?? thats a flavoring...

Well, menthol is, interestingly enough, not just a flavoring, and it's never added to tobacco directly. (it's usually in the paper or the filter-tip). Menthol in tobacco helps to overcome (temporarily) the congestion caused by smoking tobacco, and is, to that extent, a useful adjunct to tobacco for smoking.

200 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:51:41pm

re: #199 Guanxi88

Well, menthol is, interestingly enough, not just a flavoring, and it's never added to tobacco directly. (it's usually in the paper or the filter-tip). Menthol in tobacco helps to overcome (temporarily) the congestion caused by smoking tobacco, and is, to that extent, a useful adjunct to tobacco for smoking.

How does one develop such knowledge?

201 Sloppy  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:52:10pm

Re: Charles on TV

I don't watch Scarborough, so Charles, if you agree to appear I hope you'll give us a heads-up in advance.

202 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:52:59pm

There's another reason why RS McCain's charming posts are showing up at Hot Air, by the way:

Michelle Malkin's White Supremacist Ties

203 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:53:15pm

re: #200 Pianobuff

How does one develop such knowledge?

Joe the Camel has a whole section in the Children's section of the Library

204 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:53:24pm

re: #200 Pianobuff

How does one develop such knowledge?

Oddly enough, I came by this info during the course of about 5 years spent in the microfilm department of a major University's library. Time was on my hands, and curiosity.

Also, I grew up around tobacco farmers and such, and one sort of picks things up, and I was a student some time ago of the lead chemist for Philip Morris, who had been with IFF for decades before coming over to the dark side, as it were.

205 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:53:32pm

re: #199 Guanxi88

Well, menthol is, interestingly enough, not just a flavoring, and it's never added to tobacco directly. (it's usually in the paper or the filter-tip). Menthol in tobacco helps to overcome (temporarily) the congestion caused by smoking tobacco, and is, to that extent, a useful adjunct to tobacco for smoking.

20,679 physicians say Luckies are less irritating "It's toasted."

206 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:53:56pm

re: #199 Guanxi88

Well, menthol is, interestingly enough, not just a flavoring, and it's never added to tobacco directly. (it's usually in the paper or the filter-tip). Menthol in tobacco helps to overcome (temporarily) the congestion caused by smoking tobacco, and is, to that extent, a useful adjunct to tobacco for smoking.

well then so much for that law... just flavor the paper.

207 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:54:31pm

re: #205 Walter L. Newton

20,679 physicians say Luckies are less irritating "It's toasted."

Not saying tobacco should be smoked, but if one is to indulge this dangerous and costly habit, there are ways to prepare it so as to minimize the temporary discomfort.

208 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:55:09pm

re: #206 brookly red

well then so much for that law... just flavor the paper.

Market beat you to that years ago. There are even tobacco flavorings, sold in head shops (for some reason) and flavored rolling papers and such.

209 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:55:18pm

re: #205 Walter L. Newton

20,679 physicians say Luckies are less irritating "It's toasted."

LSMFT

210 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:55:35pm
211 Salamantis  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:55:47pm

re: #207 Guanxi88

Not saying tobacco should be smoked, but if one is to indulge this dangerous and costly habit, there are ways to prepare it so as to minimize the temporary discomfort.

For instance, one can cut the acid acridity of the smoke by adding vinegar.

212 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:56:16pm

re: #210 kywrite

Can I do it Charles?

213 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:56:22pm

Racist flounce!

214 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:56:44pm

re: #181 MandyManners

Dirty, rotten bastards.

We us a tofu in a some -non-disclosed ethicimally classified- soups. It's great.

We wouldn't make a meal of tofu.

215 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:56:47pm

re: #212 Walter L. Newton

Can I do it Charles?

Why do you get to have all the fun?

216 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:57:07pm

With a sock puppet too.

217 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:57:55pm

re: #211 Salamantis

For instance, one can cut the acid acridity of the smoke by adding vinegar.

I've heard of vinegar being use to re-hydrate dried tobacco (adds moisture without creating a mold-friendly environment), but never for its smoke-related qualities. Best thing to do for any tobacco for smoking is to case it, of course, or at least to make sure it's cavendish-processed. Easiest way to reduce (not eliminate) the harm of tobacco is to avoid fire-cured tobacco altogether, stay away from flue-cured (bright Virginia) as much as possible, and stick with air-cured Burleys with minimal processing.

218 Crimsonfisted  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:57:59pm

I am missing flounces, when I check back at hotair, and come back.

What to do, what to DO?

219 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:58:12pm

re: #205 Walter L. Newton

20,679 physicians say Luckies are less irritating "It's toasted."

What brand is this? "In hoc signo vinces"

220 Sloppy  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:58:34pm

Hey, I finally got to see a flounce, right before my eyes! Now I can go to bed fulfilled.

221 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:58:39pm

re: #219 Pianobuff

What brand is this? "In hoc signo vinces"

Chesterfield, wasn't it?

222 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:58:42pm

re: #205 Walter L. Newton

20,679 physicians say Luckies are less irritating "It's toasted."

re: #208 Guanxi88

Market beat you to that years ago. There are even tobacco flavorings, sold in head shops (for some reason) and flavored rolling papers and such.

well the whole legislate tobacco away thing ain't gonna work, they tried it with alcohol once... didn't work out so good.


I know a few folks that are less irritating toasted...

223 Crimsonfisted  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:58:58pm

re: #220 Sloppy
I am jealous.

224 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:59:00pm

re: #221 Guanxi88

Chesterfield, wasn't it?

I'd say your close.

225 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:59:20pm

re: #210 kywrite

So sorry you can't handle that this blog isn't about you and your racist friends.

226 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:59:32pm

re: #224 Pianobuff

I'd say your close.

Then Pall mall, for sure. One of those old-guy smokes.

227 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:59:44pm

re: #219 Pianobuff

What brand is this? "In hoc signo vinces"

Pall Mall

228 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 5:59:50pm

re: #202 Charles

There's another reason why RS McCain's charming posts are showing up at Hot Air, by the way:

Michelle Malkin's White Supremacist Ties

Seeing that is over on HuffPo, do we need to take this with a block of salt?

229 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:00:27pm

re: #228 talon_262

Seeing that is over on HuffPo, do we need to take this with a block of salt?

No, it's all completely accurate.

A small part of my research.

230 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:00:39pm

re: #226 Guanxi88

re: #227 Walter L. Newton

Bingo. My old brand until I quit several months back.

231 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:00:55pm

re: #202 Charles

from HuffPo...

VDARE also publishes writers like the late Sam Francis, a former columnist for the Washington Times


The Washington Times seems to be a common thread these days.

232 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:01:11pm

re: #190 Guanxi88

Chocolate, vanilla, and cloves are among the ingredients commonly used to make tobacco fit for smoking. Angelica, licorice root, raisins, dates, and a host of other food-grade flavorings go into the "sauces" used to dress tobacco before it undergoes secondary fermentation to make it worth smoking in the first place. This is nothing but yet another step toward the outright regulation of all tobacco products in any form whatsoever as a prelude to their eventual outlawing except by prescription.

You'll notice that the reporter says that these lead to minors' smoking without attribution. It's stated as a fact.

The ban is intended to end the sale of tobacco products with chocolate, vanilla, clove and other flavorings that lure children and teenagers into smoking.

233 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:01:26pm

re: #230 Pianobuff

re: #227 Walter L. Newton

Bingo. My old brand until I quit several months back.

Good on you for kicking the sticks. Did you take up another smoking form (pipe, etc.) or did you kick Lady Nic altogether?

234 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:02:50pm

re: #232 MandyManners

As one who, in my reckless and foolish youth, smoked air-cured, uncased, fairly new (barely one year old) tobacco, I can tell you that you can't smoke tobacco without these substances and processes. The smoke's too harsh, the sting is too great, and the nicotine is too high to be tolerable or even safe.

235 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:03:02pm

re: #233 Guanxi88

Good on you for kicking the sticks. Did you take up another smoking form (pipe, etc.) or did you kick Lady Nic altogether?

Nope. Just quit. My wife quit a few months before me, and I followed. Cold turkey - had some acupuncture though. Can't say whether it helped or not, but I'm doing fine now.

236 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:03:09pm

re: #232 MandyManners

/well I guess crack is just a flavoring too...

237 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:03:36pm

re: #226 Guanxi88

Then Pall mall, for sure. One of those old-guy smokes.

Ever met a really old guy that smokes camel non filters? His fingers are yellow and he has burn spots on his shirt..
And the smell?
I like Eternity for Men...Expensive..rich smelling...
These guys like 'It's going be Eternity for me soon' smell

238 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:03:55pm

re: #234 Guanxi88

As one who, in my reckless and foolish youth, smoked air-cured, uncased, fairly new (barely one year old) tobacco, I can tell you that you can't smoke tobacco without these substances and processes. The smoke's too harsh, the sting is too great, and the nicotine is too high to be tolerable or even safe.

When I was aroun 18-20, I was smoking hand-rolled. Drum, Export, Bugler, etc. That stuff was potent.

239 TheMatrix31  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:03:55pm

The only thing I smoke is a nergileh, or a "hookah", as non-Armenians seem to call it.

240 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:03:57pm

re: #235 Pianobuff

Nope. Just quit. My wife quit a few months before me, and I followed. Cold turkey - had some acupuncture though. Can't say whether it helped or not, but I'm doing fine now.

Acupuncture can work (I work at an acupuncture school) but it's the former smoker's desire to quit that makes the difference. Everything else is just a prop and a crutch or a good luck charm.

241 Flyers1974  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:03:59pm

re: #207 Guanxi88

Not saying tobacco should be smoked, but if one is to indulge this dangerous and costly habit, there are ways to prepare it so as to minimize the temporary discomfort.

On a sort of related note, did anyone know that weed is practically legal in California? A guy I know went to L.A. on a business trip and went to see a doctor. He was asked certain questions about back pain and stress and was given a little license which allowed him to buy marijuna from some sort of dispensory or cafe. Apparently it's legal in these situations to have it there or to take it away. I heard about medical marijuna in CA but didn't know it was this easy.

242 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:04:12pm

re: #202 Charles

There's another reason why RS McCain's charming posts are showing up at Hot Air, by the way:

Michelle Malkin's White Supremacist Ties

From the link:

Forget phrenology: VDARE spends its time flogging books that purport to prove that the average IQ of sub-Saharan Africans is 67 -- below the accepted standard criteria for a diagnosis of mental retardation.

Some of the books they're pushing at vdare are just vile. A couple of those names are well known scientific racists.

243 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:05:37pm

re: #238 Pianobuff

When I was aroun 18-20, I was smoking hand-rolled. Drum, Export, Bugler, etc. That stuff was potent.

Honestly, if my wife was still smoking, I don't think there is any way I would have managed.

244 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:05:54pm

re: #238 Pianobuff

When I was aroun 18-20, I was smoking hand-rolled. Drum, Export, Bugler, etc. That stuff was potent.

Good smokes, those were. Drum was a good halfzware (high in fire-cured tobacco, tasty but high in TSNA's); Bugler was a good simple virginia and turkish blend with a nice licorice casing. Export, I don't know from.

All of them quite dangerous.

245 Gus  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:05:59pm

BBIAW

246 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:06:07pm

re: #234 Guanxi88

As one who, in my reckless and foolish youth, smoked air-cured, uncased, fairly new (barely one year old) tobacco, I can tell you that you can't smoke tobacco without these substances and processes. The smoke's too harsh, the sting is too great, and the nicotine is too high to be tolerable or even safe.

Are you saying that this will afffect ALL cigarettes and not just the ones listed in the article?

247 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:07:05pm

re: #241 Flyers1974

On a sort of related note, did anyone know that weed is practically legal in California? A guy I know went to L.A. on a business trip and went to see a doctor. He was asked certain questions about back pain and stress and was given a little license which allowed him to buy marijuna from some sort of dispensory or cafe. Apparently it's legal in these situations to have it there or to take it away. I heard about medical marijuna in CA but didn't know it was this easy.

You ought to check out some of the CA fast food joints.

248 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:07:09pm

re: #236 brookly red

/well I guess crack is just a flavoring too...

Never smoked that.

249 Aye Pod  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:07:56pm

re: #159 Salamantis

After RS and RSM psychologically reify their fantasies, ya think they'll try to immanentize the eschaton next?

/

Sounds like they've been doing too much peyote with the Shamen:

And on, across the Rubicon
So imminentised by Eschaton
Unto Ragnarock or Nemeton and beyond
In the name of Adam Kadmon you move on
Ego gone be as one
Transformation to solarisation
Towards the final confrontation
Eschaton is thy destination

Youtube Video
250 freetoken  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:07:59pm

re: #220 Sloppy

Hey, I finally got to see a flounce, right before my eyes! Now I can go to bed fulfilled.

Take a shower first.

251 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:09:07pm

re: #248 MandyManners

Never smoked that.

you wouldn't like it, it's uuhhh, whack.

252 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:10:18pm

re: #241 Flyers1974

On a sort of related note, did anyone know that weed is practically legal in California? A guy I know went to L.A. on a business trip and went to see a doctor. He was asked certain questions about back pain and stress and was given a little license which allowed him to buy marijuna from some sort of dispensory or cafe. Apparently it's legal in these situations to have it there or to take it away. I heard about medical marijuna in CA but didn't know it was this easy.

Look on the bright side...If America legalizes Pot we may never hear from Obama for 3 more years and he'll be 60 lbs over weight...
'The whatever' policy...The only question remaining would be if America's Farmers could keep ACORN supplied?
*wink*

253 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:11:13pm

re: #246 MandyManners

Are you saying that this will afffect ALL cigarettes and not just the ones listed in the article?

It is the nature of any regulatory regime to expand to include all instances and cases even remotely similar. I fear very much that what starts out as an effort to suppress Grape-flavored cigarillos will end in the outlawing of the retail sale of tobacco in any smokeable form.

Consider the efforts, for years, to get cigarette companies to release their formulas for sauces and such. What was behind it? The desire to portray the effort to meet customer needs for a consistent smoke with good burn, decent flavor, and predictable satisfaction of the nicotine habit as a nefarious attempt to "dose" or boost the addictiveness of the product.

A similar effort was undertaken in the 20's and 30's with copenhagen snuff, with all manner of wild claims made as to its composition and such. Why didn't the company dispel the rumors by releasing the formula? Because the formula was the product; without their exclusive secret, everyone could make a comparable snuff, and then they're out of business.

Anti-tobacco literature from the 19th century accused tobacconists and others of drugging cigarettes with opium and all manner of narcotics and stimulants. These stories were widely beleived, because the tobacco companies could not afford to part with their recipes and processes, which cost them big bucks to develop and which were their only competitive advantage.

254 Flyers1974  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:11:28pm

re: #247 Pianobuff

You ought to check out some of the CA fast food joints.

You mean they sell drugs out of the drive-thru? They do that here as well.

255 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:12:51pm

re: #236 brookly red

/well I guess crack is just a flavoring too...

Come on! Crack refers to a pre-mixed combination of more-or-less pure cocaine hydrochloride with a common alkaline substance (sodium bicarbonate) to make free-base use easier and cheaper. Very different from a flavoring.

256 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:14:36pm

re: #253 Guanxi88

It is the nature of any regulatory regime to expand to include all instances and cases even remotely similar. I fear very much that what starts out as an effort to suppress Grape-flavored cigarillos will end in the outlawing of the retail sale of tobacco in any smokeable form.

Consider the efforts, for years, to get cigarette companies to release their formulas for sauces and such. What was behind it? The desire to portray the effort to meet customer needs for a consistent smoke with good burn, decent flavor, and predictable satisfaction of the nicotine habit as a nefarious attempt to "dose" or boost the addictiveness of the product.

A similar effort was undertaken in the 20's and 30's with copenhagen snuff, with all manner of wild claims made as to its composition and such. Why didn't the company dispel the rumors by releasing the formula? Because the formula was the product; without their exclusive secret, everyone could make a comparable snuff, and then they're out of business.

Anti-tobacco literature from the 19th century accused tobacconists and others of drugging cigarettes with opium and all manner of narcotics and stimulants. These stories were widely beleived, because the tobacco companies could not afford to part with their recipes and processes, which cost them big bucks to develop and which were their only competitive advantage.

Hey, homeboy!

Like that rain today? I got just over 2".

And for the rest of you not blessed to be living in Austin, this brutal summer has finally cracked.

And good evening to you all.

257 Sloppy  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:14:38pm

I used to smoke Pall Malls and Chesterfields, but at 75 I don't like to be thought of an old guy, so I'm on Winstons now.

258 Flyers1974  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:14:49pm

re: #252 HoosierHoops

Look on the bright side...If America legalizes Pot we may never hear from Obama for 3 more years and he'll be 60 lbs over weight...
'The whatever' policy...The only question remaining would be if America's Farmers could keep ACORN supplied?
*wink*

Unless it made him paranoid. That could be a problem.

259 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:15:28pm

re: #256 austin_blue

Hey, homeboy!

Like that rain today? I got just over 2".

And for the rest of you not blessed to be living in Austin, this brutal summer has finally cracked.

And good evening to you all.

Loved it. A good, steady rain from early in the morning to up until about an hour ago.

Now, if the Hill Country can just get about 6 inches or so, I can water my lawn more than once a week.

260 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:15:43pm

re: #256 austin_blue

Hey, homeboy!

Like that rain today? I got just over 2".

And for the rest of you not blessed to be living in Austin, this brutal summer has finally cracked.

And good evening to you all.

Wimp.

We have a forecast of 16 inches of snow tonight.

261 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:15:54pm

re: #257 Sloppy

I used to smoke Pall Malls and Chesterfields, but at 75 I don't like to be thought of an old guy, so I'm on Winstons now.

Taste good, like a cigarette should.

262 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:16:03pm

re: #253 Guanxi88

It is the nature of any regulatory regime to expand to include all instances and cases even remotely similar. I fear very much that what starts out as an effort to suppress Grape-flavored cigarillos will end in the outlawing of the retail sale of tobacco in any smokeable form.

Consider the efforts, for years, to get cigarette companies to release their formulas for sauces and such. What was behind it? The desire to portray the effort to meet customer needs for a consistent smoke with good burn, decent flavor, and predictable satisfaction of the nicotine habit as a nefarious attempt to "dose" or boost the addictiveness of the product.

A similar effort was undertaken in the 20's and 30's with copenhagen snuff, with all manner of wild claims made as to its composition and such. Why didn't the company dispel the rumors by releasing the formula? Because the formula was the product; without their exclusive secret, everyone could make a comparable snuff, and then they're out of business.

Anti-tobacco literature from the 19th century accused tobacconists and others of drugging cigarettes with opium and all manner of narcotics and stimulants. These stories were widely beleived, because the tobacco companies could not afford to part with their recipes and processes, which cost them big bucks to develop and which were their only competitive advantage.

/well then how they gonna pay for s-chip?

263 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:16:13pm

re: #260 Walter L. Newton

Wimp.

We have a forecast of 16 inches of snow tonight.

Hmmm...sbow...heard of it...

264 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:16:34pm

re: #263 austin_blue

Hmmm...sbow...heard of it...

Ack! Snow

PIMF

265 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:16:48pm

re: #258 Flyers1974

Unless it made him paranoid. That could be a problem.

no, they really are out to get him ;)

266 TheMatrix31  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:16:51pm

Look at all of you, having fall-like rain and winter-like snow.

Here, we're getting this bullshit triple digit nonsense.

267 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:17:26pm

re: #256 austin_blue

Hey, homeboy!

Like that rain today? I got just over 2".

And for the rest of you not blessed to be living in Austin, this brutal summer has finally cracked.

And good evening to you all.

Bring on El Nino, that magnificent, rain-bringer! I'm ready.

268 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:18:04pm

Wow, RS McCain blogging about Charles again. Says that Charles has so far disrupted plans for cooperation between Americans and Eurofascists. Now that the war is over I guess they can go ahead.

269 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:18:19pm

re: #262 brookly red

/well then how they gonna pay for s-chip?

A state monopoly suggests itself as one idea. Turkey and France, among others, had state tobacco monopolies for years.

270 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:18:28pm

re: #213 Charles

Racist flounce!

With 333 posts. He was only half a devil

271 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:19:09pm

re: #258 Flyers1974

Unless it made him paranoid. That could be a problem.

Dude...We knew there was a problem when the Secret Service kept going out at 2am for ice cream and candy...Could this be a Clinton WH Reduex?
The only way we'll ever know is if the Enquirer reports on it..
/

272 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:19:23pm

re: #267 Guanxi88

Bring on El Nino, that magnificent, rain-bringer! I'm ready.

No shit, bubba. We need rain upriver. Travis is only up two feet over the last three weeks (which makes it only down 48 feet, for the rest of youse guys).

273 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:20:31pm

re: #249 Jimmah

Sounds like they've been doing too much peyote with the Shamen:

And on, across the Rubicon
So imminentised by Eschaton
Unto Ragnarock or Nemeton and beyond
In the name of Adam Kadmon you move on
Ego gone be as one
Transformation to solarisation
Towards the final confrontation
Eschaton is thy destination


[Video]

Can you move any mountain, Ebeneezer Good?

274 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:21:33pm

re: #269 Guanxi88

A state monopoly suggests itself as one idea. Turkey and France, among others, had state tobacco monopolies for years.

yeah but everybody knows that monopolies are against the...
never mind.

275 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:22:52pm

Even Rick Moran is linking to Robert Stacy McCain tonight.

The right wing blogosphere is rotting away into a stinky puddle of racism and white supremacism.

Youtube Video
276 Guanxi88  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:24:33pm

re: #275 Charles

Even Rick Moran is linking to Robert Stacy McCain tonight.

The right wing blogosphere is rotting away into a stinky puddle of racism and white supremacism.


Too bad about the hat, though.

277 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:26:33pm

re: #275 Charles

Even Rick Moran is linking to Robert Stacy McCain tonight.

The right wing blogosphere is rotting away into a stinky puddle of racism and white supremacism.


[Video]

I guess they figure Blacks and Jews aren't going to vote Republican anyway.
And if they keep it up, we won't.

278 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:26:58pm

re: #275 Charles

Even Rick Moran is linking to Robert Stacy McCain tonight.

The right wing blogosphere is rotting away into a stinky puddle of racism and white supremacism.


[Video]

Hmmph. And people started up stalker blogs after you disassociated yourself and this board from the GoV supporters. And now MM is linking up with vermin?

Shocka!!

279 researchok  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:27:30pm

They'll piss the election away.

280 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:29:00pm

re: #278 austin_blue

Hmmph. And people started up stalker blogs after you disassociated yourself and this board from the GoV supporters. And now MM is linking up with vermin?

Shocka!!

MM has been linked up with these vermin for a long time.

281 brookly red  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:30:11pm

well I gotta go rent some beer, non-flavored smokes & multi-culti take out food... good night all.

oooh, and I need one of those corkscrew lightbulbs too.

282 Aye Pod  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:30:55pm

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]

Edmund Standing on BBC File on Four Tonight

David T, September 22nd 2009, 6:00 pm

Be sure to catch our comrade, Edmund, on the BBC this evening at 8 p.m on Radio Four.

Here’s the BBC’s article:

Another lone far-right extremist, Martyn Gilleard, who was found to have four home-made nail bombs when police raided his flat, was also arrested by chance as part of an investigation into child pornography.

Like others described as “lone wolves”, he visited extremist websites and web forums that provided information about how to make bombs.

Edmund Standing, author of The BNP and The Online Fascist Network, said: “The fact that a lot of people [who use these websites] may be fantasists and do not pose a direct threat, doesn’t mean these forums and websites don’t, because for every 20 of them there could be one person who is actually twisted enough do something like this.

“These kind of groups and these kind of forums create an atmosphere in which it is seen to be more and more acceptable to express these hateful views.”

He said the websites advocated “lone wolf tactics” where anonymous individuals turned up at meetings and carried out subversive and violent actions.

“We face a far more difficult task dealing with these individuals, lone extremists who go to these groups or hang around the edges of these groups and become radicalised,” added Mr Standing.

Here are the programme details.

Update:

You can now download the programme here.

283 Blue Belle  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:33:29pm

I used to smoke Marboros, then something lighter, after dinner or in the eveing with a nightcap. Sort of miss it, but I never could smoke now. Ugghhh. Too old I guess.

I am still in shock about the Michelle Malkin racist comments thing. I guess I didn't realize the extent of the problem.

284 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:34:09pm

re: #282 Jimmah

Did Nick Griffin do his Chanel 4 interview? I missed it.

285 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:35:14pm

re: #279 researchok

They'll piss the election away.

heh...maybe they won't, collectively there is a hell of alot of zany freaks out there...what if they snag the WH?...what will be the result of that?...maybe I'm reaching

286 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:35:51pm

re: #282 Jimmah

Good evenin', Jimmah! Buy us a pint, then?

287 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:36:40pm

re: #280 Charles

What do you think their game is? RSM and Malkin seem to be baiting you into something. Could they possibly have some sort of trap set up or do they just think the time for open racism has arrived? I don't get the strategy.

288 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:36:57pm

re: #281 brookly red

well I gotta go rent some beer, non-flavored smokes & multi-culti take out food... good night all.

oooh, and I need one of those corkscrew lightbulbs too.

What?! No greasy food? Have you ever considered drinking Vodka straight? Eating hot Mexican food after a weekend drunk?
/Good night...

289 researchok  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:37:19pm

re: #285 albusteve

heh...maybe they won't, collectively there is a hell of alot of zany freaks out there...what if they snag the WH?...what will be the result of that?...maybe I'm reaching

The election is the GOP's to lose.

As long they continue to pander to the whackjobs, that possibility becomes more likely.

GOP salvation will come from sanity- not Beckites.

290 Aye Pod  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:37:27pm

re: #284 Killgore Trout

Did Nick Griffin do his Chanel 4 interview? I missed it.

I don't know, Killgore - haven't been watching much telly lately, to be honest.

291 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:37:39pm

re: #288 HoosierHoops

What?! No greasy food? Have you ever considered drinking Vodka straight? Eating hot Mexican food after a weekend drunk?
/Good night...

Barbacoa...mmm...

292 MrC_5150  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:39:06pm

re: #108 Gus 802

'Sup wit dat?

Here's what's up with that.

Not only that he links to the stalker site in that blog at Hot Air.

I don't think the HA link was there when I cut and pasted the quote. It was all plain black text if I remember correctly. It's a link now. I can see that. But not when I copied and pasted it earlier. Didn't show up as a link in an email I sent at around the same time either.

I just copied and pasted the same section that I copied and pasted earlier into a new email and both "Music" and "Hot Air" appear as links now. Here's what I copied and pasted earlier in my email:

Tuesday Evening Music: They Might Be Giants, 'Your Racist Friend'

Music %P% Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 3:55:46 pm PDT

Dedicated to the lovely folks at Hot Air.


The word "Music" in the earlier email is lit up in blue --- but not "Hot Air" it's plain black text -- not linked. I don't think I typed the comment in myself either. But whatever. I see it now and clicked on it.

Sorry if my reply was a bit slow. Just went through another round of getting my ticker under control. Just had my 14th stent placed in my chest last week and I'm still struggling with the new doses of meds my cardiologist has me taking. He cut two in half and dropped two others altogether. Ugh. Not fun. AT. ALL.

293 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:39:34pm

re: #289 researchok

The election is the GOP's to lose.

As long they continue to pander to the whackjobs, that possibility becomes more likely.

GOP salvation will come from sanity- not Beckites.

I'm not talking sanity or salvation...I'm talking numbers and if this headless monster gets pointed in the right direction anything can happen...the bloggers and pundits will find somebody to run with

294 Aye Pod  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:39:51pm

re: #286 austin_blue

Good evenin', Jimmah! Buy us a pint, then?

You are the second person to say something like that to me recently. I have a horrible feeling I have logged on drunk one night and made a bunch of crazy promises about buying pints for people...? Or is this to do with something else I have forgotten? lol

295 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:40:31pm
296 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:41:17pm

To all who were curious about the self-defense laws in Maryland and the potential liability of the Samurai Sword Student, I posted a brief answer at the end of the last thread but one.

297 Blue Belle  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:42:04pm

re: 287

I just don't get it either, but I'm glad I'm not the only one. I am so confused

298 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:42:14pm

re: #291 austin_blue

Barbacoa...mmm...

Eggs..Fruit and OJ...Lot's of eggs...I love Eggs.. Chickens faint when I visit the farm...I'm like Arnold in Terminator..
Arle Your Eggs aRe mine!
/

299 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:42:47pm

re: #295 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Excuse me?

300 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:43:41pm

re: #294 Jimmah

You are the second person to say something like that to me recently. I have a horrible feeling I have logged on drunk one night and made a bunch of crazy promises about buying pints for people...? Or is this to do with something else I have forgotten? lol

Nah, just a line I heard in pretty much every pub I have been in in Glasgow.

301 researchok  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:44:23pm

re: #293 albusteve

I'm not talking sanity or salvation...I'm talking numbers and if this headless monster gets pointed in the right direction anything can happen...the bloggers and pundits will find somebody to run with


They're selling tickets. They're all trying to outdo each other.

The more outrageous the show, the more tickets they sell. They don't give a rats ass about the party- never have. It's all about what's good for them.

Ever since some people realized that making money was tied to outrageous and stupid, the writing was on the wall.

302 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:44:29pm

re: #295 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Hmm...not cool.

303 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:44:34pm

re: #297 Blue Belle

It's a very complicated tale. We'll all figure it out sooner or later.

304 Aye Pod  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:45:25pm

re: #273 Guanxi88

Can you move any mountain, Ebeneezer Good?

Ha! Got any Veras? Lovely!

Youtube Video
305 The Left  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:45:26pm

re: #294 Jimmah

You are the second person to say something like that to me recently. I have a horrible feeling I have logged on drunk one night and made a bunch of crazy promises about buying pints for people...? Or is this to do with something else I have forgotten? lol

I thought you were busy buying me one, Jimmah-ski. :)

306 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:45:55pm

re: #300 austin_blue

Nah, just a line I heard in pretty much every pub I have been in in Glasgow.

My Boss is at the Sefton Parks Estates this week..Lucky..He better drink something for me! a great bitter or something..I'll text him

307 jaunte  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:46:43pm

Drawing some supposed equivalence between terminating an annoying electronic conversation and "blowing someone away" is just stupid.

308 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:48:23pm

re: #295 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Go to hell, asshole...

309 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:48:43pm

re: #306 HoosierHoops

My Boss is at the Sefton Parks Estates this week..Lucky..He better drink something for me! a great bitter or something..I'll text him

I like Glasgow, but it is very much the blue collar town. A fair amount of hate between the Romans and the Proddies. It can get tense really quick.

310 HelloDare  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:49:15pm

Congressional Budget Office contradicts Obama: Seniors would see Medicare benefits cut under President's plan

Congress' chief budget officer is contradicting President Barack Obama's oft-stated claim that seniors wouldn't see their Medicare benefits cut under a health care overhaul.

The head of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, Douglas Elmendorf, told senators Tuesday that seniors in Medicare's managed care plans would see reduced benefits under a bill in the Finance Committee.

The bill would cut payments to the Medicare Advantage plans by more than $100 billion over 10 years.

Elmendorf said the changes would reduce the extra benefits that would be made available to beneficiaries.

Critics say the plans are overpaid, while supporters say they work well.

Obama says cuts to Medicare providers won't reduce seniors' benefits.

311 Blue Belle  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:51:35pm

Thanks Kilgore. At least commenters here help me, and Charles of course.

312 TheMatrix31  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:52:13pm

re: #310 HelloDare

Shocking!

...not

313 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:53:13pm

Ten minutes is long enough to wait for an answer. Buh-bye!

314 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:54:23pm

re: #309 austin_blue

I like Glasgow, but it is very much the blue collar town. A fair amount of hate between the Romans and the Proddies. It can get tense really quick.

We have offices all over Europe..The last time I went to Amsterdam I only knew people from work..Next time over the pond I am so trashing the rent a car..I have met so many great European Lizards this year...I'm pretty excited about going back and having dinner with a few of them...

315 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:56:03pm

Iran police 'target mannequins'

Iranian police have warned shopkeepers not to display female mannequins without a hijab, or showing bodily curves, Irna news agency reports.

Display of bow ties and neckties, and the sale of women's underwear by men are also banned, the police said.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

316 Aye Pod  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:56:58pm

re: #305 iceweasel

I thought you were busy buying me one, Jimmah-ski. :)

Indeed, iceweaselski:) I think I'll be buying you not just one, but a few ales, not to mention the finest wines available to humanity. And some cake too of course...

Youtube Video
317 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:57:58pm

re: #315 Walter L. Newton

Iran police 'target mannequins'

Iranian police have warned shopkeepers not to display female mannequins without a hijab, or showing bodily curves, Irna news agency reports.

Display of bow ties and neckties, and the sale of women's underwear by men are also banned, the police said.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

that's it...calling my agent and canceling my soire to Iran

318 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:58:20pm

re: #305 iceweasel

I thought you were busy buying me one, Jimmah-ski. :)

Hi Ice what up?

319 mj  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:59:05pm

re: #202 Charles

There's another reason why RS McCain's charming posts are showing up at Hot Air, by the way:

Michelle Malkin's White Supremacist Ties

I didn't see the O'Reilly segment that the HuffPo author discusses in the beginning of this article but O'Reilly was right about Ray McGovern.
McGovern is a truther and well-known Israel basher who even admits that a former director the CIA said was an antisemite:

The session took an awkward turn when witness Ray McGovern, a former intelligence analyst, declared that the United States went to war in Iraq for oil, Israel and military bases craved by administration "neocons" so "the United States and Israel could dominate that part of the world." He said that Israel should not be considered an ally and that Bush was doing the bidding of Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

"Israel is not allowed to be brought up in polite conversation," McGovern said. "The last time I did this, the previous director of Central Intelligence called me anti-Semitic."

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

As for being a truther,

McGovern is one of 100 signatories to a petition "which calls for immediate public attention to unanswered questions that suggest that people within the current administration may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war."[7] However, his own view is not that the administration allowed or knew about 9/11, but that the exploitation of it is an impeachable offense.[8] He also appears in the Final Cut of Loose Change as well as the 9/11 documentary 9/11 Press for Truth.


[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

McGovern also writes for that antisemitic hate site known Anti-War.com

I'm not defending Michelle Malkin. However, Koppleman is clearly not telling leveling with his readership. O'Reilly was correct in saying:

"He's just off the chart," O'Reilly said. "He's a far-left dedicated zealot, and the press, after he does it, just says, 'Oh, he's just a CIA analyst,' like he's got some credibility. Come on!"


Read more at: [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

320 JamesTKirk  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:59:09pm

re: #248 MandyManners

re: #236 brookly red
well I guess crack is just a flavoring too...

Never smoked that.

"I would never do a drug named after part of my ass." -Denis Leary

321 The Left  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 6:59:58pm

re: #318 HoosierHoops

Hi Ice what up?

Hi Hoops honey!

I was just digging up a google cache of my favourite crazy Michelle Malkin story. There are so many to choose from, but this one is fun. Stand by!

How are you?

322 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:00:22pm

re: #314 HoosierHoops

We have offices all over Europe..The last time I went to Amsterdam I only knew people from work..Next time over the pond I am so trashing the rent a car..I have met so many great European Lizards this year...I'm pretty excited about going back and having dinner with a few of them...

SWMBO and myself are heading over to the UK in December. Her sister is finally marrying her longtime sig other, who was one of the founding members of Silly Wizard, the first real Scots traditional/crossover band (can I get a shout out, Jimmah?). As always, looking forward to it. We try to get over twice a year or so, which includes a mandatory spring music festival in Edinburgh.

323 HelloDare  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:00:45pm

re: #312 TheMatrix31

Shocking!

...not

Not to us. But it's an AP piece only 4 hours old. Be interesting to see how many news sources run it. So far

Yahoo! News, AOL, CBS4 in Denver, L.A. Examiner and Bakersfield.com which has this delightful headline: Budget Chief calls Obama a liar... What a racist...

324 JamesTKirk  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:02:17pm

re: #258 Flyers1974

re: #252 HoosierHoops
Look on the bright side...If America legalizes Pot we may never hear from Obama for 3 more years and he'll be 60 lbs over weight...

Unless it made him paranoid. That could be a problem.

In some cases, a problem telling the difference. Then again, a little paranoia applied against the likes of Iran and Nork (rather than blind trust and appeasement) might be an improvement.

325 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:02:22pm

re: #319 mj

That's right -- and the point, of course, is that even if Ray McGovern is a crazy 9/11 Truther moonbat (which he is), being hooked up with white supremacists just might be as bad or worse.

326 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:02:25pm

Rushton is from The Pioneer Fund, which gets funding in part from The Bradley Foundation. It would be interesting to know if the foundation also gives money to vdare... or any bloggers.

327 SteveC  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:03:55pm

Anyone else get the feeling that most of the right wing blogs are turning into What Really Happened... without the fact checking?

Ha' Mercy.

328 TheMatrix31  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:04:33pm

re: #323 HelloDare

Ugh. I'm sick of this shit.

329 SteveC  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:04:46pm

re: #315 Walter L. Newton

Display of bow ties and neckties, and the sale of women's underwear by men are also banned, the police said.

How about hats? I need a new lid!

330 Equable  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:06:12pm

re: #327 SteveC

The whole thing's becoming quite the mess.

I'd hate to think that everyone will eventually turn against each other and eat eachother alive, as opposed to turning their collective attention to the big picture, straightening up and flying right. I am not of the paranoid stripe, but that's when stuff flies under the radar.

In this case, who is Rome and who is Nero?

331 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:06:17pm
332 Aye Pod  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:06:19pm

re: #300 austin_blue

Nah, just a line I heard in pretty much every pub I have been in in Glasgow.

Right I get you now :)

333 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:06:23pm

re: #323 HelloDare

Not to us. But it's an AP piece only 4 hours old. Be interesting to see how many news sources run it. So far

Yahoo! News, AOL, CBS4 in Denver, L.A. Examiner and Bakersfield.com which has this delightful headline: Budget Chief calls Obama a liar... What a racist...

BO's power of persuasion is rapidly fading, hence his mad scramble through the talk shows last Sunday...his meme is collapsing and he will have to come clean sooner or later...to continue defying all expertise, rationale and common sense is not working for him...interesting

334 JamesTKirk  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:07:39pm

re: #296 Cato the Elder

To all who were curious about the self-defense laws in Maryland and the potential liability of the Samurai Sword Student...

In Maryland we have something call the "duty to retreat". If someone breaks into your house, and they're armed, and you're armed, you still don't automatically get to shoot them. If you can resolve the situation by running away and leaving the field to the bad guy, you can, under certain circumstances, be held responsible for not doing so.

Crap. As a katana-wielding Marylander, this concerns me. Are you just speaking in general, or are there specific details? Are they charging the student?

335 jaunte  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:07:56pm

re: #326 Sharmuta

Rushton is from The Pioneer Fund, which gets funding in part from The Bradley Foundation. It would be interesting to know if the foundation also gives money to vdare... or any bloggers.

The pdf 'map' of relationships linked from this article is interesting:

The Tanton Network’s ties to white supremacists associated with the Council of Conservative Citizens and to the VDARE Foundation serve only to heighten growing unease about it within the civil rights community. The Center for New Community is distributing a map (link) detailing the nature of these relationships.


[Link: imagine2050.newcomm.org...]

336 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:07:56pm

re: #322 austin_blue

SWMBO and myself are heading over to the UK in December. Her sister is finally marrying her longtime sig other, who was one of the founding members of Silly Wizard, the first real Scots traditional/crossover band (can I get a shout out, Jimmah?). As always, looking forward to it. We try to get over twice a year or so, which includes a mandatory spring music festival in Edinburgh.

I am so jealous..The first time I was sent to the Netherlands to do some Network infrastructure work I just freaked over the food..My Lord..
Every dinner was like 4 hours long and it was like an hour between dishes...
You talked to your work mates...They spend hours together as families..
They eat only the best and healthiest foods..The warm breads and farm fruits and meats are to die for..They don't mess around...Fresh goose ravioli..Soups..My God it's heaven...
The Dutch are a wonderful wonderful people...

337 JamesTKirk  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:09:25pm

re: #315 Walter L. Newton

Iran police 'target mannequins'

Iranian police have warned shopkeepers not to display female mannequins without a hijab, or showing bodily curves, Irna news agency reports.

Display of bow ties and neckties, and the sale of women's underwear by men are also banned, the police said.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

What about the sale of women's underwear to men?

338 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:09:48pm
339 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:10:08pm
340 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:10:35pm

re: #336 HoosierHoops

I am so jealous..The first time I was sent to the Netherlands to do some Network infrastructure work I just freaked over the food..My Lord..
Every dinner was like 4 hours long and it was like an hour between dishes...
You talked to your work mates...They spend hours together as families..
They eat only the best and healthiest foods..The warm breads and farm fruits and meats are to die for..They don't mess around...Fresh goose ravioli..Soups..My God it's heaven...
The Dutch are a wonderful wonderful people...

Food in the UK is...better than it was, but still dicey. I've only spent about a week total in the Netherlands, a fair amount of which seems to have disappeared into a pot hole.

;-)

341 Aye Pod  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:10:56pm

re: #309 austin_blue

I like Glasgow, but it is very much the blue collar town. A fair amount of hate between the Romans and the Proddies. It can get tense really quick.

Depends on where and when you are in Glasgow of course. But yes, it's best to avoid some of the pubs around football time...not to mention the buses and trains. Particularly those filled with Rangers fans, I have to say. They are the worst, certainly as far as racism is concerned (the sectarian bigotry is about equal on both sides).

342 SteveC  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:10:57pm

re: #333 albusteve

BO's power of persuasion is rapidly fading, hence his mad scramble through the talk shows last Sunday...his meme is collapsing and he will have to come clean sooner or later...to continue defying all expertise, rationale and common sense is not working for him...interesting

Article in Forbes Magazine said today that it is more and more likely he'll be a one term president. You can break a lot of things in four years. :(

343 Bloodnok  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:11:34pm

re: #338 hotei

No. Racists are racists. And flouncers are flouncers. Bye now.

344 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:11:43pm

re: #23 Mich-again

The latest stunt from the NDP, the fascist party in Germany.
Fury at Intimidating Election Stunt
Far-Right NPD Sent Fake Deportation Orders to Immigrant Politicians

But they must be democrats! They have 'Democratic' right in their party name!

/sorry. I'm gonna work that one.

345 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:11:53pm

re: #217 Guanxi88

I've heard of vinegar being use to re-hydrate dried tobacco (adds moisture without creating a mold-friendly environment), but never for its smoke-related qualities. Best thing to do for any tobacco for smoking is to case it, of course, or at least to make sure it's cavendish-processed. Easiest way to reduce (not eliminate) the harm of tobacco is to avoid fire-cured tobacco altogether, stay away from flue-cured (bright Virginia) as much as possible, and stick with air-cured Burleys with minimal processing.

The way to reduce the harm of tobacco is to no smoke or otherwise use it. It is very dangerous to suggest that there is "less harmful" tobacco.

346 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:13:08pm

re: #336 HoosierHoops

I am so jealous..The first time I was sent to the Netherlands to do some Network infrastructure work I just freaked over the food..My Lord..
Every dinner was like 4 hours long and it was like an hour between dishes...
You talked to your work mates...They spend hours together as families..
They eat only the best and healthiest foods..The warm breads and farm fruits and meats are to die for..They don't mess around...Fresh goose ravioli..Soups..My God it's heaven...
The Dutch are a wonderful wonderful people...

my folks had a friendly relationship with a younger Dutch couple spanning many years...they swapped back and forth meeting up every year...you are so right on all counts from what I know...I met the couple several times and they were just great people...they just could never believe their eyes at the huge properties and open farmlands of the midwest

347 JamesTKirk  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:13:10pm

re: #342 SteveC

Article in Forbes Magazine said today that it is more and more likely he'll be a one term president. You can break a lot of things in four years. :(

Not as many as you can break in eight.

348 tradewind  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:13:24pm

A cautionary tale...not a racist one.
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

349 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:13:26pm

Considering the highly sensitive subject of this post, have there been many flounces?

350 SteveC  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:13:26pm

#338, you'd be better served by singing this little ditty:

Cows like to talk but they don't talk like you
Cows, when they talk they go, moo moo moo moo
Cows like to sing and dance and shout. HOORAY!
When you meet a cow this is what you should say
Hello Cow! How are you? Cow!
Hello Cow! Hello Moo Moo Moo Moo!

351 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:13:40pm

re: #335 jaunte

[Link: imagine2050.newcomm.org...]

The House Immigration Reform Caucus is on that map. Started by Tancredo, and iirc Joe Wilson is a member too.

352 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:14:40pm
353 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:15:15pm

re: #351 Sharmuta

hmmm... you guys will have to fill me in on all this once I get over my flu. Sounds interesting but my brain is full of viruses and medication right now.

354 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:15:21pm

re: #349 Bagua

Considering the highly sensitive subject of this post, have there been many flounces?

One flounce, two sticks, by my count.

355 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:15:26pm

re: #340 austin_blue

Food in the UK is...better than it was, but still dicey. I've only spent about a week total in the Netherlands, a fair amount of which seems to have disappeared into a pot hole.

;-)

I'd transfer to the Netherlands in a New York Second...I know for some it seems an easy target from what they read on the net..
I like it there...We can always dream

356 JamesTKirk  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:16:13pm

re: #352 taxfreekiller

Do the Wal-Mart deal to the way hard left Democrats of Pelosi/Reid/Obama

ROLL BACK
all the over spending and over taxing
starting in 2010

2/3 's of the Senate
3/4's of the House

No Ron Paul
No Barney Frank

No other choice.

Only 1/3 of the Senate is up for re-election in 2010.

357 SteveC  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:16:28pm

re: #354 austin_blue

One flounce, two sticks, by my count.

Shouldn't flounce = stick? Unless it was a "You hit 'em high and I'll hit 'em low!"

358 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:18:14pm

re: #353 Killgore Trout

It's all about following the money.

359 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:18:52pm
360 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:19:04pm

re: #334 JamesTKirk

Crap. As a katana-wielding Marylander, this concerns me. Are you just speaking in general, or are there specific details? Are they charging the student?

Generally. I don't have the specific laws at my fingertips, but this is how I remember being instructed when I bought my first handgun.

They say it may be weeks before the student's situation is resolved. Most likely, because of the media attention and certain people wanting to bend over backwards to show they're not partial to "rich" Hopkins students, most likely - this is my guess - he'll be charged with something or other (I'm betting manslaughter) and then it will get plea-bargained away. That's Maryland, My Maryland.

After a rash of attempted burglaries a while back, I wanted to put barbed or razor wire atop my eight-foot chain-link fence in the back yard. I was told if a burglar hurt himself climbing my fence, I would be liable.

361 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:19:18pm

re: #354 austin_blue

One flounce, two sticks, by my count.

Apparently even a music video is trigger enough for some nuts. Amusing.

362 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:19:27pm
363 The Left  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:19:42pm

Semi OT: One of my favourite Malkin rage-gasms from last year:

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

The Obamas also invited 60 Minutes to come film the family making tuna fish sandwiches earlier this year–you know, to show what a regular guy he is. Question: Who the hell puts Grey Poupon and gherkins (don’t ask me what those are, I have no idea) in tuna sandwiches for kids?

Yes, Michelle Malkin, what are these sinister things called 'gherkins'? Sounds kinda Commie. Maybe even Kenyan. Almost as exotic as Grey Poupon, which you can only find at such exotic outposts as WalMart and Kroger for like 1.99.

Good thing they didn't call them cornichons. Sounds French!

364 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:20:02pm

re: #357 SteveC

Shouldn't flounce = stick? Unless it was a "You hit 'em high and I'll hit 'em low!"

I've always thought of a flouncing as blogocide. The stick is for rock dumb comments and attitude.

365 Boot Hill  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:20:52pm

I personally prefer Put Your hand Inside the Puppet Head...and Don't Let's Start from TMBG.

366 Achilles Tang  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:21:08pm

re: #343 Bloodnok

No. Racists are racists. And flouncers are flouncers. Bye now.

This was not a flouncer. This was a troll.

367 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:21:20pm

NASA Briefing To Reveal Evidence of Water on the Moon - Lots of It

Reliable sources report that there will be a press conference at NASA HQ at 2:00 pm this Thursday featuring lunar scientist Carle Pieters from Brown University.

The topic of the press briefing will be a paper that will appear in this week's issue of Science magazine wherein results from the Moon Mineralogy Mapper (M3) aboard Chandrayaan-1 will be revealed.

The take home message: there is a lot of water on the Moon.

/too bad, because Obama's union buddies are getting the $50 billion NASA needs to send men back to the moon

368 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:21:31pm

re: #353 Killgore Trout

hmmm... you guys will have to fill me in on all this once I get over my flu. Sounds interesting but my brain is full of viruses and medication right now.

Mental confusion is a symptom of some concern in a patient with the flu, however, in your case it will be difficult to differentiate from your normal state.

369 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:21:58pm

re: #360 Cato the Elder

Generally. I don't have the specific laws at my fingertips, but this is how I remember being instructed when I bought my first handgun.

They say it may be weeks before the student's situation is resolved. Most likely, because of the media attention and certain people wanting to bend over backwards to show they're not partial to "rich" Hopkins students, most likely - this is my guess - he'll be charged with something or other (I'm betting manslaughter) and then it will get plea-bargained away. That's Maryland, My Maryland.

After a rash of attempted burglaries a while back, I wanted to put barbed or razor wire atop my eight-foot chain-link fence in the back yard. I was told if a burglar hurt himself climbing my fence, I would be liable.

walled and gated property (like mine) here in NM is your fortress...anyone breaches the wire after dark is just a target...it works

370 redneckkahfir  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:21:59pm

Flouncer = attention starved blogicide bomber.

371 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:22:12pm

re: #363 iceweasel

I like real home made mayo (with olive oil and mustard powder), chopped shallots on rye bread with Swiss cheese.

372 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:22:53pm

re: #363 iceweasel

Semi OT: One of my favourite Malkin rage-gasms from last year:

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]


Yes, Michelle Malkin, what are these sinister things called 'gherkins'? Sounds kinda Commie. Maybe even Kenyan. Almost as exotic as Grey Poupon, which you can only find at such exotic outposts as WalMart and Kroger for like 1.99.

Good thing they didn't call them cornichons. Sounds French!

I loves me some Dijon mustard on a good ham or roast beef sandwich.

Mmmm...

373 Randall Gross  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:23:10pm

re: #275 Charles

Even Rick Moran is linking to Robert Stacy McCain tonight.

The right wing blogosphere is rotting away into a stinky puddle of racism and white supremacism.


[Video]

Crap, Rick too? argg

374 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:23:23pm

re: #363 iceweasel

Semi OT: One of my favourite Malkin rage-gasms from last year:

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

Yes, Michelle Malkin, what are these sinister things called 'gherkins'? Sounds kinda Commie. Maybe even Kenyan. Almost as exotic as Grey Poupon, which you can only find at such exotic outposts as WalMart and Kroger for like 1.99.

Good thing they didn't call them cornichons. Sounds French!

Don't those gherkins make really superior soldiers? So the Obamas are cannibals?

/need I?

375 SteveC  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:23:34pm

re: #360 Cato the Elder

They say it may be weeks before the student's situation is resolved. Most likely, because of the media attention and certain people wanting to bend over backwards to show they're not partial to "rich" Hopkins students, most likely - this is my guess - he'll be charged with something or other (I'm betting manslaughter) and then it will get plea-bargained away. That's Maryland, My Maryland.

I just hope it doesn't become a "Let's stick it to the rich students!" situation, like the Duke Lacrosse fiasco did. The Group of 88 haven't backed off their accusations yet... and they are still employed.

376 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:23:36pm

re: #368 Bagua

Not cool...not cool at all.

377 The Left  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:23:45pm

re: #371 Killgore Trout

I like real home made mayo (with olive oil and mustard powder), chopped shallots on rye bread with Swiss cheese.

Lunch at Killgore's! I'll bring the flu meds.

Yum, home made mayo. With garlic too, sometimes!

378 jaunte  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:23:48pm

re: #363 iceweasel

Yes, Michelle Malkin, what are these sinister things called 'gherkins'? Sounds

She must be too busy to read Americana on Wikipedia:

The gherkin may have been introduced to the American public by Minton Collins of Richmond, Virginia, who was offering it for sale in the Virginia Gazette in 1792, although it might have been known in Colonial times under another name. It was a favorite of Thomas Jefferson.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
379 JamesTKirk  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:24:41pm

g'night

380 The Left  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:25:00pm

re: #378 jaunte

Jefferson? Another DFH! Didn't he have a Koran or sumpin?

381 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:26:36pm

re: #368 Bagua

Mental confusion is a symptom of some concern in a patient with the flu, however, in your case it will be difficult to differentiate from your normal state.

Well, that was a certainly a cheap shot. Forget the sarc tag?

382 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:26:44pm

re: #379 JamesTKirk

g'night

In bed.

383 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:26:46pm

re: #368 Bagua

Mental confusion is a symptom of some concern in a patient with the flu, however, in your case it will be difficult to differentiate from your normal state.

What's that about? you calling KT out cause he feels sick? Is your normal state to insult with your first post tonight?
Talk to me...

384 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:26:57pm

re: #310 HelloDare

Congressional Budget Office contradicts Obama: Seniors would see Medicare benefits cut under President's plan

Meanwhile, the far left progressives are going after the "Faux Democrats"...
Dino's ... - Blue Dogs.

385 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:27:39pm

re: #368 Bagua

Tacky and mean.

386 Bloodnok  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:27:40pm

re: #363 iceweasel

Semi OT: One of my favourite Malkin rage-gasms from last year:

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

Yes, Michelle Malkin, what are these sinister things called 'gherkins'? Sounds kinda Commie. Maybe even Kenyan. Almost as exotic as Grey Poupon, which you can only find at such exotic outposts as WalMart and Kroger for like 1.99.

Good thing they didn't call them cornichons. Sounds French!

Unbelievable that she managed to get through a paragraph without uttering the words "craptacular" or "crap sandwich".

387 Crimsonfisted  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:27:42pm

test

388 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:27:45pm

re: #377 iceweasel

Alton Brown did a great episode on Mayo...
Good Eats S4E10P1: Mayo Clinic

Youtube Video


Worth watching if you like the stuff. I do it with all olive oil. Very tasty.

389 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:28:10pm

re: #383 HoosierHoops

He's just bustin' balls, it's ok.

390 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:28:34pm

re: #387 Crimsonfisted

test

A+!

391 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:28:43pm

re: #377 iceweasel

Lunch at Killgore's! I'll bring the flu meds.

Yum, home made mayo. With garlic too, sometimes!

You realize there are super seckrit Potato soups that can cure anything?
/with eggs

392 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:29:02pm

re: #381 austin_blue

Well, that was a certainly a cheap shot. Forget the sarc tag?

It was an obvious attempt at humour, is everybody touchy tonight?

393 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:29:27pm

Only one way to fight the Flu

In bed.

394 Equable  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:29:39pm

Ah don't worry so much about what Bagua said. If you want to pick on somebody or someone take the daily aggressions out on pick me. I'm an easy target.

Shoot I'm always confused. My favorite thing to say is:

"Hey what the hell is going on here?"

395 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:29:51pm

By the way, did Piggy Zbiggy Brzezinski's latest statement get any play here today?

He said, apropos of any possible Israeli strike against Iranian nuke facilities: "They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch? ... We have to be serious about denying them that right. That means a denial where you aren't just saying it. If they fly over, you go up and confront them. They have the choice of turning back or not. No one wishes for this but it could be a 'Liberty' in reverse."

More at Treppenwitz.

My Moonbat Brother (MMB™) has told me he agrees with this.

396 TheMatrix31  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:29:56pm

re: #392 Bagua

The internet has been touchy forever. Dunno what it is.

397 Kronocide  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:30:02pm

re: #392 Bagua

It was an obvious attempt at humour, is everybody touchy tonight?

It's not fault. Maybe it's the fault of your humor bone.

398 Bloodnok  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:30:16pm

re: #366 Naso Tang

This was not a flouncer. This was a troll.

An asshole by any other name...

399 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:30:25pm

By the way, since Robert Stacy "Interracial couples are revolting" McCain is now quoting Carl in Jerusalem, here's something I wasn't going to post -- but since the gloves are off, what the hell.

Carl of Israel Matzav was one of the supporters of Rabbi Meir Kahane, whose organization Kach is on the US State Department list of terrorist organizations. Others who supported Kahane are now gone from LGF, as they revealed themselves. I let Carl promote his blog here for a long long time before catching on to what he was doing -- and now of course, he's showing his gratitude by stabbing me in the back with comments to an outright white supremacist. I expected no less.

400 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:30:28pm

re: #392 Bagua

It was an obvious attempt at humour, is everybody touchy tonight?

Some are.

401 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:30:37pm
402 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:30:51pm

re: #397 BigPapa

It's not fault. Maybe it's the fault of your humor bone.

Could be, but we're talking about a flu here, not cancer.

403 Danny  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:30:53pm

re: #395 Cato the Elder

Someone linked to it this morning as I recall.

404 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:32:08pm

re: #389 Killgore Trout

He's just bustin' balls, it's ok.

Cool..Then let him man up KT...
This childish shit over the last couple of months is getting old...

405 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:32:28pm

re: #402 Bagua

Could be, but we're talking about a flu here, not cancer.

Flu can kill.

406 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:32:55pm

re: #399 Charles

I'm sorry. I guess that's gratitude for you.

407 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:33:03pm

re: #399 Charles

What an asshole.

Plenty of them.

408 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:33:29pm

We actually had a little clique of Kahanists here for several years, who were smart enough to hide it most of the time. And then the masks started falling.

409 Kronocide  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:33:35pm

re: #402 Bagua

Could be, but we're talking about a flu here, not cancer.

We're not talking about the cancer or the flu, we're talking about an insult. If you guys are buddies and get the joke, then cool. But don't imply we're touchy or you we're mistaking the flu for cancer. Don't make it worse by implying everybody else is wrong.

410 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:33:48pm

re: #408 Charles

We actually had a little clique of Kahanists here for several years, who were smart enough to hide it most of the time. And then the masks started falling.

Ploome?

411 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:33:53pm

re: #392 Bagua

It was an obvious attempt at humour, is everybody touchy tonight?

Tough time at the board. Please, I don't want to misunderstand your postings. A sarc tag or a wink would help.

412 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:34:02pm

re: #400 MandyManners

Some are.

Kilgore doesn't strike me as the sensitive type. And yes I know that flu can kill, however, humour can not and is considered good medicine by many.

413 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:35:00pm

re: #399 Charles

By the way, since Robert Stacy "Interracial couples are revolting" McCain is now quoting Carl in Jerusalem, here's something I wasn't going to post -- but since the gloves are off, what the hell.

Carl of Israel Matzav was one of the supporters of Rabbi Meir Kahane, whose organization Kach is on the US State Department list of terrorist organizations. Others who supported Kahane are now gone from LGF, as they revealed themselves. I let Carl promote his blog here for a long long time before catching on to what he was doing -- and now of course, he's rewarding me by stabbing me in the back with comments to an outright white supremacist. I expected no less.

If I didn't know better, I'd say Carl is a douchebag...

/the cognitive dissonance of the kooks astounds

414 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:35:14pm
415 Aye Pod  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:35:36pm
Semi OT: One of my favourite Malkin rage-gasms from last year:

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

Yes, Michelle Malkin, what are these sinister things called 'gherkins'? Sounds kinda Commie. Maybe even Kenyan. Almost as exotic as Grey Poupon, which you can only find at such exotic outposts as WalMart and Kroger for like 1.99.

Good thing they didn't call them cornichons. Sounds French!

Reminds me of Pamela Geller's 'concerns' about the 'sinister' arrangement of snack-food on Obama's lunch plate. Another milestone in the annals of ODS.

416 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:35:55pm

re: #411 austin_blue

Tough time at the board. Please, I don't want to misunderstand your postings. A sarc tag or a wink would help.

I hear ya, what's going on? I though this was a music video post? Those are generally fairly anodyne.

417 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:36:17pm

re: #410 karmic_inquisitor

Ploome?

Definitely. She was banned when she decided to come all the way out of the closet and declare Baruch Goldstein a "hero" -- the crazed fanatic who committed mass murder in a mosque in Israel.

418 jaunte  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:36:20pm

re: #395 Cato the Elder


More at Treppenwitz


Great link; he articulates almost everything I thought when I first read Brzezinski's ridiculous statement.

419 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:36:26pm
420 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:37:02pm

re: #399 Charles

Ah.

421 SteveC  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:37:30pm

re: #395 Cato the Elder

By the way, did Piggy Zbiggy Brzezinski's latest statement get any play here today?

He said, apropos of any possible Israeli strike against Iranian nuke facilities: "They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch? ... We have to be serious about denying them that right. That means a denial where you aren't just saying it. If they fly over, you go up and confront them. They have the choice of turning back or not. No one wishes for this but it could be a 'Liberty' in reverse."

And if they don't? Are we supposed to shoot at them? That sounds like a major league fuckup waiting to happen.

422 Achilles Tang  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:37:33pm

re: #275 Charles

Even Rick Moran is linking to Robert Stacy McCain tonight.

The right wing blogosphere is rotting away into a stinky puddle of racism and white supremacism.


[Video]

I'm wondering which of these survey groups they belong to.

most hated minority (but bigger than many of the others)

423 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:38:02pm

We seem to have another imminent flounce going on, by the way, in the previous thread.

424 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:39:11pm

re: #410 karmic_inquisitor

Ploome?

NY Nana was one that I know of...flounced after Charles showed Carl in Jerusalem the door.

425 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:39:18pm

I shall power up the Flouncometor

426 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:39:20pm

re: #422 Naso Tang

I'm #1! I'm #1!

427 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:39:52pm

re: #424 talon_262

I liked Babba but she was one too.

428 avanti  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:40:39pm

re: #333 albusteve

BO's power of persuasion is rapidly fading, hence his mad scramble through the talk shows last Sunday...his meme is collapsing and he will have to come clean sooner or later...to continue defying all expertise, rationale and common sense is not working for him...interesting

What's interesting is how you can weave a tale that sound good to you, and cheer yourself up in so doing.

429 SteveC  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:41:12pm

re: #425 Bagua

I shall power up the Flouncometor

You've got clearance, Clarance!

430 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:41:57pm

re: #427 Killgore Trout

I liked Babba but she was one too.

Breaks my heart to have people you like and respect turn out to be f**king kooks (or worse)...

431 TheMatrix31  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:42:08pm

re: #428 avanti

lol

432 Crimsonfisted  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:42:40pm

re: #429 SteveC

You've got clearance, Clarance!


What's our vector, Victor?

433 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:43:15pm

re: #428 avanti

What's interesting is how you can weave a tale that sound good to you, and cheer yourself up in so doing.

Hi Chief! Hope you are well!

434 tradewind  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:43:18pm
In Maryland we have something call the "duty to retreat". If someone breaks into your house, and they're armed, and you're armed, you still don't automatically get to shoot them


Good grief. I'd move out of state... that's disgusting.
A home invasion is not the time to play guessing games.

435 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:43:53pm

I know so little about Jewish politics. This guy Kahane (yes - it's a wiki entry) was assassinated in 1990 in Manhattan.

If you scroll down apparently Bob Dylan kinda liked him.

436 Achilles Tang  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:44:05pm

re: #426 Killgore Trout

I'm #1! I'm #1!

Well, there is the advantage of having some idea how the other poor sods feel.

437 Ben Hur  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:44:41pm

Have you ever been to a Turkish prison, Billy?

438 Charles Johnson  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:45:37pm

Instapundit links to the white supremacist:

STACY MCCAIN: Can’t All Conservatives At Least Agree That Glenn Beck Is Not The Enemy?

439 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:45:51pm

re: #428 avanti

What's interesting is how you can weave a tale that sound good to you, and cheer yourself up in so doing.

maybe...but it's far from the buzz of the dope of denile

440 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:46:05pm

re: #435 FrogMarch

I know so little about Jewish politics. This guy Kahane (yes - it's a wiki entry) was assassinated in 1990 in Manhattan.

If you scroll down apparently Bob Dylan kinda liked him.

And a dangerous racist bigot to the core, IIRC...his political party in Israel (Kach) was banned for being terroristic.

441 Aye Pod  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:46:37pm

re: #322 austin_blue

SWMBO and myself are heading over to the UK in December. Her sister is finally marrying her longtime sig other, who was one of the founding members of Silly Wizard, the first real Scots traditional/crossover band (can I get a shout out, Jimmah?). As always, looking forward to it. We try to get over twice a year or so, which includes a mandatory spring music festival in Edinburgh.

You can indeed. I remember Silly Wizard as the performers of the theme tune for the long running, much loved (and yet truly awful) Scottish soap called "Take The High Road":

Youtube Video
442 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:46:39pm

re: #418 jaunte

Great link; he articulates almost everything I thought when I first read Brzezinski's ridiculous statement.

Had a little set-to on Facebook about this today. One of my friends mentioned Jimmah "Terrorists Are People Too" Carter.

Cato:

Does anybody else think Carter should stick to building houses and otherwise STFU? All he ever does is make stupid noises and hug terrorists like Hamas. And hate on Israel.

Worst. Ex-President. Ever.

Friend:

I do not hate Carter. He has done a lot of good work with Habitats for Humanity and on that eye worm disease in Africa. And he dares to speak his mind.

Cato:

Oh, joy. A terrorist-hugging anti-Semite who dares to speak his mind. There's a real shortage of those.

Now along comes friend of friend:

funny stuff, cato: carter, who facilitated begin & sadat winning nobel peace prizes, is an anti-semite... who'd'a thunk it... ? and here i thought palestinians were semites too...

or maybe you confuse anti-semitism w/anti-neo-conservatives... ? because i'm definitely one of those...

oh, and i speak my mind...

This FoF is someone my friend recently recommended as someone I might like. So,

Cato:

FoF: Our mutual friend emailed me a while back that we should be friends. You wanna? I'm game.

But don't give me that "Arabs are Semites too" crap. The word "Antisemitismus" was made up in 19th-century Germany because it sounded more polite than "Judenhass" (Jew-hatred). It means Jews. It always has. It always will. The rest is politically-correct eyewash... Read More.

And I speak my mind as well. Carter is in my view a flaming anti-Semite, and he can kiss my Israel-loving ass. Laying wreathes at the grave of the old sodomite Arafat every chance he gets! Hugging Hamas terrorists! He should wear a Hannibal Lecter mask as a warning to normal humans.

FoF goes personal:

not sure i'd be able to hold onto your friendship there, cato, what with the borderline racist and homophobic rhetoric... i happen to have a great sympathy for the muslim people, having worked with them and having been married to one... and generally, i take exception on behalf of an oppressed mass, whoever they are, being demonized as well... i like to think i can comfort the afflicted even as i take great delight in afflicting the comfortable every chance i get...

Cato:

OK, FoF. Skip it. You jump to conclusions about homophobia and racism. Let me jump to a little conclusion of my own: your self-righteousness would nauseate me at a distance and cause me to smack you in person.

I will admit to having chosen the wrong word for Arafat. Not sodomite. Pederast. It's documented.

Have a good life.

Not sure what my friend will make of this. I've told her to feel free to delete the whole exchange. Or maybe she'll defriend me for being a racist homophobe. Funny how that comes out after 25 years...

443 freetoken  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:47:07pm

re: #438 Charles

From the photo I posted the other day, one might get the idea that RSM and Reynolds are buddies. Perhaps not, but that is what RSM wants to portray.

444 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:47:08pm

re: #435 FrogMarch

I know so little about Jewish politics. This guy Kahane (yes - it's a wiki entry) was assassinated in 1990 in Manhattan.

If you scroll down apparently Bob Dylan kinda liked him.

Info on Kach

445 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:47:10pm

re: #437 Ben Hur

Have you ever been to a Turkish prison, Billy?

They left it off the tour..disappointing to say the least but the Coffee rocked

446 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:47:54pm

re: #438 Charles

Answer to RSM: No, next question.

447 Achilles Tang  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:47:54pm

BTW, I keep meaning to ask; why is there no reply/quote option in a window resulting from clicking on a post #?

448 jaunte  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:48:11pm

re: #435 FrogMarch

I know so little about Jewish politics. This guy Kahane (yes - it's a wiki entry) was assassinated in 1990 in Manhattan.

If you scroll down apparently Bob Dylan kinda liked him.

This doesn't sound sane:


Kahane was known in the United States and Israel for political and religious views that included proposing emergency Jewish mass-immigration to Israel due to the imminent threat of a "second Holocaust" in the United States
449 medaura18586  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:48:15pm

Charles, please check your email.

450 Aye Pod  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:48:57pm

re: #438 Charles

Instapundit links to the white supremacist:

STACY MCCAIN: Can’t All Conservatives At Least Agree That Glenn Beck Is Not The Enemy?

This conservative acid test thing keeps getting worse.

451 avanti  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:49:14pm

re: #433 HoosierHoops

Hi Chief! Hope you are well!

I'm good, how are you ? BTW, my ex mid sent me a pics of wives/mothers day for the Naval aviators in training. You apparently get a hot wife as a pilot. ( Love the heels)

wives.

452 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:49:26pm

re: #438 Charles

He went Paulian 6 months ago. Praising Ron Paul as the future of conservatism, defending militias, even libertarian arguments against democracy. He's linked to economic information from Lew Rockwell's blog. No surprise. I'm done being shocked.

453 avanti  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:50:45pm

re: #439 albusteve

maybe...but it's far from the buzz of the dope of denile

I'm sort of in the middle, so far Obama is doing a pretty average job, with average support.

454 freetoken  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:50:50pm

re: #452 Killgore Trout

Reynolds has a history:

Glenn Reynolds promotes book authored by neo-Confederate propagandist.

455 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:51:06pm

re: #447 Naso Tang

BTW, I keep meaning to ask; why is there no reply/quote option in a window resulting from clicking on a post #?

No place for it to go. It's a standalone post, in a standalone window.

456 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:51:08pm

re: #450 Jimmah

This conservative acid test thing keeps getting worse.

I think a pushback might be starting. A few pundits have come out against Glenn Beck and Ron Paul over the past few days. It might die out or it might become a trend. Can't tell yet.

457 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:51:15pm

re: #451 avanti

I'm good, how are you ? BTW, my ex mid sent me a pics of wives/mothers day for the Naval aviators in training. You apparently get a hot wife as a pilot. ( Love the heels)

wives.

No linky work...

458 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:52:14pm

re: #449 medaura18586

Hi, Medaura!

459 Achilles Tang  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:52:22pm

re: #455 Cato the Elder

No place for it to go. It's a standalone post, in a standalone window.

You are not a programmer, are you?

460 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:52:27pm

re: #454 freetoken

Damn, I saw Thomas Woods mentioned somewhere else today and meant to google who the fuck he is. I forgot and took a nap.

461 FrogMarch  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:52:40pm

re: #448 jaunte

No, it doesn't.

462 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:52:46pm

re: #440 talon_262

And a dangerous racist bigot to the core, IIRC...his political party in Israel (Kach) was banned for being terroristic.

Which shows the difference between the Israelis and the Palestinians.
There will be peace when the Palestinians ban parties that want to kill Israelis like the Kahanists wanted to kill Arabs.

463 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:53:21pm
464 freetoken  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:53:37pm

re: #460 Killgore Trout

... I forgot and took a nap.

It's because you use Dijon mustard.

465 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:54:10pm

re: #441 Jimmah

You can indeed. I remember Silly Wizard as the performers of the theme tune for the long running, much loved (and yet truly awful) Scottish soap called "Take The High Road":


[Video]

Johnny Cunningham, who died of the drink in 2003, was a freakin' brilliant fiddle player. His brother Phil is still writing tunes. They were damn good.

466 Mich-again  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:54:18pm

re: #438 Charles

I found a pdf of American Renaissance from 2002 featuring an article by Burke C. Dabney, (RSM's pseudonym) that made the case that the efforts to slow the rate of teenage pregnancy is really a secret plot to reduce the white population.

The “success” of such propaganda only accelerates the decline of the white population. If crusaders against teenage motherhood were serious, they would concentrate on the black and Hispanic girls who account for more than half of teenage births. Targeting whites as part of a general campaign is yet another form of racial suicide. We should encourage whites to have children within marriage; instead they are encouraged only to use contraceptives, whether married or single.

Burke Dabney is the Internet penname of a writer based in Washington,
DC. He has four children.

Behold the new hero of the right wing blogosphere.

467 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:54:30pm

re: #456 Killgore Trout

I think a pushback might be starting. A few pundits have come out against Glenn Beck and Ron Paul over the past few days. It might die out or it might become a trend. Can't tell yet.

It's starting to look like battle lines are forming.

468 Achilles Tang  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:54:35pm

re: #463 DeeAitch

Where's the sarc?

469 wee fury  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:55:08pm

Theme song for the (now banned) masked posters.

Youtube Video
470 DeeAitch  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:55:09pm

In the sub-text where it belongs.

471 freetoken  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:55:18pm

re: #466 Mich-again

Um...

472 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:55:46pm

re: #453 avanti

I'm sort of in the middle, so far Obama is doing a pretty average job, with average support.

the House and Senate are hardly average support...he's a bust so far and you know it...he did unleash the Seals but who wouldn't have?...btw how are cars sales this month?

473 Achilles Tang  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:56:07pm

re: #470 DeeAitch

Just making sure. It's been a bit wild lately.

474 cliffster  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:56:15pm

re: #467 Sharmuta

It's starting to look like battle lines are forming.

And who stands to profit more than... Glenn Beck

475 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:56:32pm

re: #459 Naso Tang

You are not a programmer, are you?

Not anything like Charles is, but yes, I know my way around. And my answer was just a guess. Charles can tell us if I'm wrong.

476 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:57:07pm

re: #456 Killgore Trout

I think a pushback might be starting. A few pundits have come out against Glenn Beck and Ron Paul over the past few days. It might die out or it might become a trend. Can't tell yet.

I think you may be right. He left a door wide open with his stated preferences for Hillary & Obama over McCain. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the reason given for his peers to create some distance.

477 Equable  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:57:32pm

re: #474 cliffster

It depends on which "big names" attach themselves to x side or y side. There's always profit in a conflagration.

478 tradewind  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:58:47pm

There's no accounting for who links to who these days, or who quotes or promotes who.
Look at MSNBC... they have Pat Buchanan as a daily commentator and panelist, and he's nothing if not an antisemite and bigot.

479 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:59:25pm
480 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:59:28pm
481 Achilles Tang  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 7:59:37pm

re: #475 Cato the Elder

Not anything like Charles is, but yes, I know my way around. And my answer was just a guess. Charles can tell us if I'm wrong.

I can think of a few complications to address, like where one goes afterwards, but a window is just a display option for anything.

482 avanti  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:00:24pm

re: #457 HoosierHoops

No linky work...

Try
wives.

483 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:00:24pm

the Glenn Beck phenomenon makes me want to hurl...pundits leading voters into the toilet...this blind infatuation is gonna be the death of all reason

484 Randall Gross  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:00:44pm

re: #478 tradewind

There's no accounting for who links to who these days, or who quotes or promotes who.
Look at MSNBC... they have Pat Buchanan as a daily commentator and panelist, and he's nothing if not an antisemite and bigot.

Which btw might make an interesting soundbite/challenge if Charles does go on morning Joe...

485 Mich-again  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:01:49pm

re: #471 freetoken

Um...

Odd how American Renaissance didn't make the list of magazines he has freelanced for in his wiki site.

McCain has also contributed freelance articles, reviews and commentary pieces to a number of publications including The American Spectator,[21]Reason,[22] The American Conservative,[23] Ripon Forum,[24] and Chronicles: A Magazine of American Culture,[25] as well as such online forums as The Conservative Voice[26] and The American Thinker.[27]
486 Danny  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:02:12pm

re: #454 freetoken

Reynolds has a history:

Glenn Reynolds promotes book authored by neo-Confederate propagandist.

Reynolds is not a racist. He posts all sorts of books that are sent to him before he even reads them.

487 DeeAitch  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:02:30pm

re: #479 austin_blue

Well, color me devastated.

488 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:02:41pm

re: #466 Mich-again

I found a pdf of American Renaissance from 2002 featuring an article by Burke C. Dabney, (RSM's pseudonym) that made the case that the efforts to slow the rate of teenage pregnancy is really a secret plot to reduce the white population.

Behold the new hero of the right wing blogosphere.

There he goes with that Dabney name again.

I think he's referring to Robert Lewis Dabney, cousin-in-law to Stonewall Jackson and supporter of antebellum slavery.

489 Achilles Tang  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:03:43pm

re: #486 Danny

He posts all sorts of books that are sent to him before he even reads them.

What's the point of doing that? Not that I know who he is.

490 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:03:50pm

re: #487 DeeAitch

Well, color me devastated.

Sorry if I misunderstood. Weird night here.

(pulls forelock, retreats)

491 freetoken  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:03:57pm

re: #486 Danny

Reynolds is not a racist. He posts all sorts of books that are sent to him before he even reads them.

In other words, he is not a racist, he is just an idiot.

He has a history of this in other spheres too, such as with cameras where he "reviews" them by linking to other people's opinions of them.

492 Danny  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:04:12pm

re: #489 Naso Tang

What's the point of doing that? Not that I know who he is.

He's a compulsive blogger.

493 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:04:16pm

re: #467 Sharmuta

It's starting to look like battle lines are forming.

Nobody affiliated with Beck, the Tea Parties, Ron Paul, Birch Society, VDARE or stormfront will get any where near the Presidency. We'll see if the Republican party can change course. I'm surprised they've gone this far.

494 avanti  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:04:25pm

re: #472 albusteve

the House and Senate are hardly average support...he's a bust so far and you know it...he did unleash the Seals but who wouldn't have?...btw how are cars sales this month?

GM restores 3,000 jobs, prepares to raise output.

495 The Left  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:04:38pm

re: #415 Jimmah

Reminds me of Pamela Geller's 'concerns' about the 'sinister' arrangement of snack-food on Obama's lunch plate. Another milestone in the annals of ODS.

Yes, Dijon-Gate, Gherkin-Gate, and Biscuit-Gate will go down in history.

496 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:04:59pm

re: #481 Naso Tang

I can think of a few complications to address, like where one goes afterwards, but a window is just a display option for anything.

I'm sure it's more complicated than I made it out to be, but I've wondered the same thing, and my answer is that if you were to, say, click on a comment link and then click another one that opened a comment from a different thread, and you hit reply/quote, which thread would your reply go to? The current one, or the older one? Stuff like that...

What I do if I want to reply to a comment in a separate window is right-click on the comment number, choose "Copy Link Location" (Mac option, PC mileage may vary), go back to the thread I want to comment on, and paste in the comment field. Workaround.

497 Danny  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:05:02pm

re: #491 freetoken

In other words, he is not a racist, he is just an idiot.

I don't think so, no.

498 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:05:24pm

re: #494 avanti

GM restores 3,000 jobs, prepares to raise output.

on your dime

499 tradewind  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:06:11pm

re: #484 Thanos

Charles is going on Morning Joe? When?
It's the only thing on MSNBC I follow... I get it on Itunes every day condensed for the days I don't actually tune in. It's usually good stuff, except Buchanan adds nothing... I could see it if he were funny or interesting anymore, but he's just out of date.

500 Digital Display  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:06:42pm

re: #482 avanti

Try
wives.

Missing text:
Behind every kick ass military Pilot is an exhausted beautiful spouse.
My heart swells with pride for our Military spouses..They hold down the home front and pray every night..And pack boxes of treats every night and drop them off before dawn at the post office...Their life is a phone call from the war zone...America is rich in love, Strength, courage and Faith
I believe those are the most beautiful women I've seen in a long time..

501 Pianobuff  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:07:10pm

re: #499 tradewind

Charles is going on Morning Joe? When?
It's the only thing on MSNBC I follow... I get it on Itunes every day condensed for the days I don't actually tune in. It's usually good stuff, except Buchanan adds nothing... I could see it if he were funny or interesting anymore, but he's just out of date.

If Charles goes on, I'd like him to give a message to Mika for her dad. On second though, better not...

502 The Left  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:07:13pm

re: #486 Danny

Reynolds is not a racist. He posts all sorts of books that are sent to him before he even reads them.

Reynolds is a crank who hides behind 'plauisble deniability' by linking all sorts of crazy stuff without comment-- unless it's "read the whole thing" or "heh" or "heh, indeed".

This allows him to claim he wasn't endorsing the content, just passing along a link. Riiight.

It's bullshit. Although I must say linking to that particular RSM article is a new low even for InstaPutz.

(BTW, if you want to see some unmitigated crazy-- just check out his wife Dr Helen and her blog. Yow. Major issues.)

503 Irish Rose  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:07:15pm

Good evening, all.
Great post Charles.

504 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:07:35pm

re: #498 albusteve

on your dime

Expensive dime, must be the inflation.

505 austin_blue  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:07:44pm

Adios, my friends.

Sweet scaly dreams!

506 Achilles Tang  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:08:02pm

re: #496 Cato the Elder

What I said ;=>

507 Danny  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:09:15pm

re: #502 iceweasel

That's a gross generalization.

508 Randall Gross  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:09:20pm

re: #499 tradewind

Charles is going on Morning Joe? When?
It's the only thing on MSNBC I follow... I get it on Itunes every day condensed for the days I don't actually tune in. It's usually good stuff, except Buchanan adds nothing... I could see it if he were funny or interesting anymore, but he's just out of date.

See way upthread, look for Charles comments, don't know if it's confirmed yet though.

509 CommonCents  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:09:27pm

re: #494 avanti

GM restores 3,000 jobs, prepares to raise output.

Earlier in September, GM said it expected to build 535,000 vehicles in North America in the third quarter and 655,000 in the fourth quarter, down about 20 percent from a year ago.

That's Rosey

510 LoafingOaf  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:09:29pm

I have an honest question for Charles. I like this blog and I think it should be proud to be more independent since being purged from the right-wing blogosphere.

But when LGF tries to condemn InstaPundit for linking to Stacy McCain, I can't help but remember that LGF was quite fond of Italian writer Oriana Fallaci. I browsed Oriana's last couple of books after seeing them hyped on sites such as this. They seemed to be racist books to me. At the very least, I could start a blog and pull quotes out of them and have a field day about how she sounds like a bigot, and then say anyone who liked those books must like bigots. And then I could paint LGF as a pro-bigotry blog. Do you see how easy it is? InstaPundit is not a racist. He's too partisan for my tastes, but he's not a hateful blogger. I'm trying to say, gently, that LGF should not be trying to demonize everyone.

511 tradewind  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:09:35pm

re: #501 Pianobuff

Old Zig guests on the show every now and then, but usually as ' Dad '. Not so much foreign policy insight lately...

512 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:10:13pm
513 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:10:48pm

re: #504 Bagua

Expensive dime, must be the inflation.

GM has no money of their own...there is no way they can crank up production and reinstall 3000 jobs unless the taxpayers pick up the tab...Avanti knows this...this is hardly free enterprise...3000 more jobs back to the very unions that killed them the first time...it's insane unless you dig socialistic meddling by the feds using money they rob from taxpayers

514 Coracle  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:10:49pm

re: #509 CommonCents

Earlier in September, GM said it expected to build 535,000 vehicles in North America in the third quarter and 655,000 in the fourth quarter, down about 20 percent from a year ago.

That's Rosey

Compared to none because the company is shuttered, or dismantled and partitioned out to surviving automakers? Rosy indeed.

515 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:11:05pm

re: #507 Danny

That's a gross generalization.

But is it "malthusian fantasy data?"

516 The Left  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:11:38pm

re: #507 Danny

That's a gross generalization.

Yes, but sadly it happens to be true. Reynolds is barely a blogger any more so much as a link machine, and he does pass on loads of dubious stuff-- and he does hide behind plauisble deniability.

517 avanti  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:12:01pm

re: #500 HoosierHoops

Missing text:
Behind every kick ass military Pilot is an exhausted beautiful spouse.
My heart swells with pride for our Military spouses..They hold down the home front and pray every night..And pack boxes of treats every night and drop them off before dawn at the post office...Their life is a phone call from the war zone...America is rich in love, Strength, courage and Faith
I believe those are the most beautiful women I've seen in a long time..

Yep, Evan's wife is making and selling cookies and dog treats she bakes at home to make extra money, they'll live in 4 different towns this year, and she's a rock through it all.

518 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:12:12pm

re: #513 albusteve

Quite concur! That "dime" endangers our economy.

519 jaunte  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:12:20pm

re: #502 iceweasel

(BTW, if you want to see some unmitigated crazy-- just check out his wife Dr Helen and her blog. Yow. Major issues.)

What are you seeing there? I've read her blog occasionally in the past and nothing really stuck out.

520 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:12:54pm

By the way, on the subject of Brzezinski, what amazes me about knee-jerk liberal defenders of Carter's administration and legacy is that if you bring up the name Kissinger, they're ready to see his head on a platter at some World Court proceeding or other - but Zbiggy, who is the only cold warrior I can think of who made Kissinger look like a dove, gets a pass 'cause he worked for (or worked, maybe?) a Democrat president. Piggy Zbiggy of the squinty eyes would have had an apocolyptogasm at the mere thought of a threat of a real nuclear exchange with the Soviets. He would have destroyed Poland to save it. And he's a flaming anti-Semite and gets a pass for it, like his former boss, while Kissinger, a Jew, gets pilloried by the left.

Why I am not a Democrat, Part MCMLXXXVI.

Why I am not a Republican is demonstrated here daily.

521 Danny  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:13:39pm

re: #516 iceweasel

Yes, but sadly it happens to be true.

LOL, ok. It's a true gross generalization.

522 freetoken  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:14:52pm

re: #510 LoafingOaf

As I tried to point out with my link above, Reynolds has a history of pushing books or blog entries from notorious sources, and it has been increasing of late (by which I mean the past year or two, as compared to when he started Instapundit.)

Of course the author and publisher of any book are the ones responsible for its content, not someone referring to it.

Yet when you look at what Instapundit has become since the election it seems clear to me that he is on a path that is not dissimilar to one well tread by many pundits - increasing the heat generated by cozying up to more and more radical ideas.

523 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:15:17pm

re: #506 Naso Tang

What I said ;=>

Huh? Now you've lost me.

524 TheMatrix31  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:15:52pm

brb, goin to Target. Damn place is hell on my wallet.

525 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:16:31pm

re: #514 Coracle

Compared to none because the company is shuttered, or dismantled and partitioned out to surviving automakers? Rosy indeed.

why would GM do that when they can declare bankruptcy and start over?...the UAW does not deserve 17% of the company

526 medaura18586  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:17:11pm

To whom it may concern, my latest blog post is dedicated to tearing McCain another asshole -- anonymous our not (you'll get the joke if you read the article).

527 tradewind  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:17:25pm

re: #516 iceweasel

Those are pretty positive statements of fact... do you know him? Because it really sounds as if you have some inside insight into his motivation and philosophy.
Linking is not always synonymous with pimping.

528 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:18:09pm
529 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:18:50pm

re: #528 taxfreekiller

in the end it will be 17% of nothing

one last gouge

530 Coracle  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:19:16pm

re: #525 albusteve

why would GM do that when they can declare bankruptcy and start over?...the UAW does not deserve 17% of the company

If they could indeed start over. I don't know they could have if not for the gov't assistance. I'm not educated enough about it to say. It sure was looking like at least one of the Big 3 was going to fail outright earlier this year. I was 50/50 about just letting it happen, though the job hit would have been huge. The auto-market as it has been the last couple decades in the US was/is unsustainable.

531 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:21:05pm
532 Aye Pod  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:21:22pm

re: #465 austin_blue

Johnny Cunningham, who died of the drink in 2003, was a freakin' brilliant fiddle player. His brother Phil is still writing tunes. They were damn good.

I've heard good things about them from a few people. Although not really my thing, I do love to hear that kind of music in the pub after a few beers and whiskeys.

533 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:21:26pm

Well, good night, all. Sufficient unto the day are the racists thereof. May their names vanish.

534 freetoken  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:21:30pm

re: #526 medaura18586

At this moment, if I were LVQ I'd be talking about nonlinear systems and the battle between the search for dynamic equilibrium and chaos and how a seeming stable system all of a sudden becomes violently unstable and splits itself into innumerable pieces.

Since I'm not LVQ, I'll just say: good work medaura.

535 Equable  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:21:45pm

re: #531 JWM

MY EYES! MY EYES!

536 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:22:00pm

re: #530 Coracle

If they could indeed start over. I don't know they could have if not for the gov't assistance. I'm not educated enough about it to say. It sure was looking like at least one of the Big 3 was going to fail outright earlier this year. I was 50/50 about just letting it happen, though the job hit would have been huge. The auto-market as it has been the last couple decades in the US was/is unsustainable.

especially when the UAW pays some kid 60k a year to mop the floor and GM pays it for them...and then there is their pension funds...the makers and the unions is a sick relationship...they do not deserve a federal bailout

537 tradewind  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:22:24pm

re: #530 Coracle

Bankruptcy allows for abrogation of the labor contracts and imposition of company-written work rules immediately... something the UAW would go to any lengths to avoid, even to the point of collaborating with the ' enemy '.

538 jaunte  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:22:34pm

re: #526 medaura18586

Nice going. I love this:
"What McCain has responded with are long-winded heaps of nothingness, shot through the ether in rapid succession."

539 Desert Dog  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:22:38pm

re: #520 Cato the Elder

By the way, on the subject of Brzezinski, what amazes me about knee-jerk liberal defenders of Carter's administration and legacy is that if you bring up the name Kissinger, they're ready to see his head on a platter at some World Court proceeding or other - but Zbiggy, who is the only cold warrior I can think of who made Kissinger look like a dove, gets a pass 'cause he worked for (or worked, maybe?) a Democrat president. Piggy Zbiggy of the squinty eyes would have had an apocolyptogasm at the mere thought of a threat of a real nuclear exchange with the Soviets. He would have destroyed Poland to save it. And he's a flaming anti-Semite and gets a pass for it, like his former boss, while Kissinger, a Jew, gets pilloried by the left.

Why I am not a Democrat, Part MCMLXXXVI.

Why I am not a Republican is demonstrated here daily.

We should consult Zbigniew about all foreign affairs matters. Find out what he thinks. And, then, do the opposite. We should be just fine.

540 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:22:39pm

Going way back in these comments, I love Talking Heads, but from what I understand, David Byrne is one of the people boycotting the Toronto Film Festival because of its spotlight on Israeli films.

541 Equable  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:22:42pm

re: #536 albusteve

Amen.

542 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:23:17pm

re: #531 JWM

Have you seen Stinky's foot being inserted into your ass?

I bet you have, asshat.

543 tradewind  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:23:27pm

re: #531 JWM

Well, I'm just slack-jawed. Why'd you stop with the ' E 's?

544 medaura18586  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:23:29pm

re: #534 freetoken

Thanks, I'll wait to hear that from him too. ;)

545 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:23:35pm

re: #531 JWM

You've been hanging with stalkers.

546 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:24:25pm

re: #545 Sharmuta

You've been hanging with stalkers.

Is that the significance of that weird list?

547 Coracle  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:24:51pm

re: #536 albusteve

especially when the UAW pays some kid 60k a year to mop the floor and GM pays it for them...and then there is their pension funds...the makers and the unions is a sick relationship...they do not deserve a federal bailout

I can't do anything with "Union=Evil". Union=Fact that must be dealt with in any reality-based solution.

548 Gus  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:24:52pm

re: #526 medaura18586

To whom it may concern, my latest blog post is dedicated to tearing McCain another asshole -- anonymous our not (you'll get the joke if you read the article).

Nice work. Worthy of an article.

By the way, Hot Air allowed the bigot Robert Stacy McCain to include a link to LGF2 in his latest blog.

Link here.

Effectively, Hot Air now links to the hate site, LGF2.

549 Equable  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:25:06pm

re: #545 Sharmuta

I still stalk you on occasion, hope that's okay.

550 medaura18586  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:25:14pm

re: #538 jaunte

Nice going. I love this:
"What McCain has responded with are long-winded heaps of nothingness, shot through the ether in rapid succession."

My favorite is:

Robert, I assure you: If only you could discriminate less against people of different skin color, you would safely afford to discriminate more against would-be allies of stained character or reputation.

All the assholes I've had to address of late are called Robert. Economies of scale!

551 MJ  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:25:19pm

re: #540 Mad Al-Jaffee

Going way back in these comments, I love Talking Heads, but from what I understand, David Byrne is one of the people boycotting the Toronto Film Festival because of its spotlight on Israeli films.

Right.
He's a pro-boycotter.

552 Killgore Trout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:25:37pm

Reflexive opposition of everything...
GOP senators declare war on Net neutrality

The move appears to be an attempt to pre-empt the FCC's expected new policy to ensure that Internet service providers don't discriminate between different types of information on their networks.


I'll be getting up early to oppose the sunrise.

553 Equable  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:25:40pm

re: #546 Bagua

It's part of a list of people who were banned from here, me believes.

554 Achilles Tang  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:26:03pm

re: #523 Cato the Elder

Huh? Now you've lost me.

Sorry, I was distracted and attempted quick humor.

As I said earlier, I could think of a few complications, although more like a matter of defining functional rules, and what you described was in that category.

The cut and paste, or back and scroll to a point before short term memory fades is not fun nor fast, which is why I asked the question originally.

Jumping out of the thread could simply not be allowed, and the return point could be the first jump out (up/down, whatever).

When one jumps out now one has the option of then clicking left or right to the up/down from that post. What I wish is that one could instead follow that particular "conversation" through it's quoted links until one found what started something off.

Of course another complication could be more than one quoted link in a post, but that is what rules are for.

Actually I now remember I sent a suggestion on that to Charles not too long ago, but he hasn't implemented it yet :=)

Could be I don't know how long his to do list is, or that I don't know what I'm talking about...

555 medaura18586  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:26:09pm

re: #548 Gus 802

Yes, it's what I meant to point out in the next-to-last paragraph.

Absolutely...

Disgusting...

556 Mich-again  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:26:35pm

re: #536 albusteve

when the UAW pays some kid 60k a year to mop the floor and GM pays it for them

Not true anymore. The cleaning is being outsourced to contractors who pay their people about $10 an hour. But I do remember the old days of the UAW cleaners. You knew it was a desirable job because the high seniority people flocked to those jobs. Never made sense to me as a young college co-op why the high seniority people wanted to be janitors. As for the production ramp up, I say good. Maybe they'll be able to pay the loans back.

557 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:26:42pm

re: #540 Mad Al-Jaffee

Going way back in these comments, I love Talking Heads, but from what I understand, David Byrne is one of the people boycotting the Toronto Film Festival because of its spotlight on Israeli films.

I'm with you, I love his music yet boycotted his recent concert. What goes around comes around.

558 freetoken  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:26:57pm

re: #544 medaura18586

Seriously though, the uneasy welding of certain parts of the paleo-right with the neo-cons after 9/11 was not going to endure. The good 'ol boys and xenophobes were not really of the same mind as the urban-neo-cons and centrist-independents.

559 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:27:26pm

re: #546 Bagua

Is that the significance of that weird list?

One of those douchebags has a blog with a roster of banned LGF users. It looks like that jackass was trying to cut & paste it. They think they are cute.

560 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:27:38pm

re: #553 Equable

It's part of a list of people who were banned from here, me believes.

I gathered that from the deletion. Weird flounce that. I name it an Inside Flounce

561 cliffster  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:27:55pm

re: #531 JWM

I reckon they're blowin' in the wind

562 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:28:02pm

re: #547 Coracle

I can't do anything with "Union=Evil". Union=Fact that must be dealt with in any reality-based solution.

agreed...just look at what CA has allowed the unions to do to that fair state...and the legislature is in bed with them

563 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:28:13pm

re: #535 Equable

MY EYES! MY EYES!

That was a stalker data dump.

564 Gus  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:28:47pm

re: #555 medaura18586

Yes, it's what I meant to point out in the next-to-last paragraph.

Absolutely...

Disgusting...

Hot Air may as well add Gate of Vienna, Brussels Journal, and Stormfront to their blog roll.

565 Equable  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:29:09pm

re: #563 Cato the Elder

For some reason my mind's eye flashed back to those old dot-matrix data print outs. When I was younger and in computer classes I'd have to stare at those endlessly. I think it's partly why my eyes are so damned screwed up.

Dammit.

566 medaura18586  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:29:21pm

re: #558 freetoken

Certain neo-cons do not want to acknowledge that though. They think they can manhandle the paelos to their own purposes. I know this from first-hand experience. It's sad and disgraceful... and very short-sighted.

567 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:29:27pm

Speaking of unions, today I had lunch with a friend who works really close to me with the Teamsters in DC. We ate on the rooftop deck of her building. Great view of the Capitol from up there.

568 tradewind  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:29:37pm

Could we please have a modifier for the Other McCain instead of just typing the last name in a post? It gets confusing, applying the filter of ' which one'.
Someone do a good deed and come up with a good one.

569 albusteve  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:31:27pm

re: #556 Mich-again

Not true anymore. The cleaning is being outsourced to contractors who pay their people about $10 an hour. But I do remember the old days of the UAW cleaners. You knew it was a desirable job because the high seniority people flocked to those jobs. Never made sense to me as a young college co-op why the high seniority people wanted to be janitors. As for the production ramp up, I say good. Maybe they'll be able to pay the loans back.

I made up the mop gig...MI is my home state and I want the auto makers to prosper as well, but I won't hold my breath...I think they have taken the wrong path

570 tradewind  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:31:39pm

re: #565 Equable

Laughing... the page refreshed to that post and for a sec I thought I had run up against some ultra sophisticated code test...

571 cliffster  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:32:04pm

This shit's a drag, man. Why do people do this shit?

572 Randall Gross  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:32:16pm

Well written K, there were quite a few good points in that article. Now it's a thread.

573 tradewind  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:34:28pm

re: #567 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hey, I was a Teamster for years.
Although there was some coercion involved. It wasn't exactly my decision, if I wanted to keep my job.
///

574 [deleted]  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:36:20pm
575 Achilles Tang  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:39:21pm

re: #574 LoafingOaf

Figured you out at "furthermore"

576 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:39:22pm

re: #315 Walter L. Newton

Iran police 'target mannequins'

Iranian police have warned shopkeepers not to display female mannequins without a hijab, or showing bodily curves, Irna news agency reports.

Display of bow ties and neckties, and the sale of women's underwear by men are also banned, the police said.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Why are Iranian fanatics so down on neckties?

577 Fenway_Nation  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:40:32pm

Has anyone composed a little ditty with a title along the lines of 'My Racist Uncle'?

I have an uncle who tends to be Archie Bunker-esque in his worldview, which as some of you might imagine, makes it unpleasant to be around him much of the time.

Having said that, I've heard him praise the work ethic of many of the Sri Lankan gas station owners or Mexican laborers he's routinely come across. And this is not the sort of person who'd throw out a compliment for the sake of saying something PC that everybody wanted to hear him say...

578 freetoken  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:41:09pm

re: #574 LoafingOaf

As I pointed out early, Reynolds has a history. Not only did he link to RSM, but his own comments enthusiastically endorsed what RSM was saying.

579 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:41:12pm

re: #574 LoafingOaf

I think Charles should do what he wants, and if that includes pointing out other people's bullshit, including people on the right, then so be it. Why are you trying to get him to back off?

580 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:42:14pm

re: #574 LoafingOaf

I don't think this blogs needs any advice, it stands in a class of its own that the others do not even approach.

581 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:43:30pm

re: #363 iceweasel

Semi OT: One of my favourite Malkin rage-gasms from last year:

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]


Yes, Michelle Malkin, what are these sinister things called 'gherkins'? Sounds kinda Commie. Maybe even Kenyan. Almost as exotic as Grey Poupon, which you can only find at such exotic outposts as WalMart and Kroger for like 1.99.

Good thing they didn't call them cornichons. Sounds French!

Someone responded to that with a blog post which was titled: "Dear Michelle Malkin: A Gherkin Is A Pickle, and You Are A Moron".

It was quite a comment thread if I recall, and included the timeless line: "If he does not use mayonnaise, he is not fit to lead."

582 Cato the Elder  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:45:09pm

re: #421 SteveC

And if they don't? Are we supposed to shoot at them? That sounds like a major league fuckup waiting to happen.

Sorry, I didn't see this before.

Yes, I believe that's what he's implying. Shoot down the Israeli planes on their way to Iran. We, the United States.

And when I presented it that way to my brother, he instantly said "I agree".

I told him I will never speak to him again about politics.

583 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:48:25pm

re: #380 iceweasel

Jefferson? Another DFH! Didn't he have a Koran or sumpin?

Why yes. Yes he did. I think Glenn Beck should look into that.

Separate church and state, that's what some liberal said..

584 Bagua  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:48:47pm

re: #582 Cato the Elder

I also have a MMB™, hopeless case, same policy, no discussion of politics.

585 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:51:52pm

re: #395 Cato the Elder

By the way, did Piggy Zbiggy Brzezinski's latest statement get any play here today?

He said, apropos of any possible Israeli strike against Iranian nuke facilities: "They have to fly over our airspace in Iraq. Are we just going to sit there and watch? ... .

No, there will be an option for cheering and waving encouraging signs as well if our troops are so inclined.

586 marwan's daughter  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:52:02pm

Time for some chill out music. A little bit of Roxy Music:

Youtube Video
587 reine.de.tout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:53:21pm

re: #377 iceweasel

Lunch at Killgore's! I'll bring the flu meds.

Yum, home made mayo. With garlic too, sometimes!

Killgore has the flu?

588 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:54:52pm

re: #415 Jimmah

Reminds me of Pamela Geller's 'concerns' about the 'sinister' arrangement of snack-food on Obama's lunch plate. Another milestone in the annals of ODS.

For serious? What the hell was he doing with his snacks?

589 researchok  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 8:59:02pm

re: #510 LoafingOaf

Fallaci and Charles do have a lot in common- no free rides for anyone, irrespective of where they stand on political spectrum.

If Fallaci seemed hard on European Muslims, it is because she was. She had higher expectations of moderate Muslims and demanded more from them. She demanded that they not be cowered by the radicals.

Same applies to LGF. Charles has higher expectations from both the left and the right- and he won't 'sell out'.

Simply claiming the moral high ground does not give or assign you the deed.

It has to be earned, bought and paid for before you get to claim sole ownership.

590 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 9:01:05pm

re: #435 FrogMarch

I know so little about Jewish politics. This guy Kahane (yes - it's a wiki entry) was assassinated in 1990 in Manhattan.

Yes. Guy who shot him got off, but was later convicted in connection to the 1993 WTC bombing.

591 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 9:04:41pm

re: #450 Jimmah

This conservative acid test thing keeps getting worse.

You mean the part where they drip the acid on Charles, and if he blisters they hang him for being a RINO?

592 bosforus  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 9:05:49pm

Always loved this song. Great guitar solo. Great band.

593 reine.de.tout  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 9:20:03pm

re: #591 SanFranciscoZionist

You mean the part where they drip the acid on Charles, and if he blisters they hang him for being a RINO?

I never had the impression Charles was conservative, ever.
Many who found themselves here were (and I'm one).
But I never thought Charles was conservative. And I'm surprised anyone did.

594 Blue Belle  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 9:32:41pm

This is just too discouraging. But I have to thank Charles and fellow lizards for alerting me to what's going on in the so-called right- and left-wing blogs. I don't have the time nor energy to read all the fanatical hate-mongering out there. I wish Charles really were in-charge.

595 Aye Pod  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 9:52:16pm

re: #588 SanFranciscoZionist

For serious? What the hell was he doing with his snacks?

It was terrible - the whole plate(yes there were photos on Shriek's blog - many many photos) reeked of Caligulean excess. The crackers were particularly decadent - a slap in the face to every hard working American. (Sorry I dont have a link - was from about 6 months ago I think if you can be bothered searching)

596 The Left  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 9:57:54pm

re: #593 reine.de.tout

I never had the impression Charles was conservative, ever.
Many who found themselves here were (and I'm one).
But I never thought Charles was conservative. And I'm surprised anyone did.

hey reine! How are you? Happy to see you!

597 The Left  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 10:03:10pm

re: #527 tradewind

Those are pretty positive statements of fact... do you know him? Because it really sounds as if you have some inside insight into his motivation and philosophy.
Linking is not always synonymous with pimping.

I don't know him personally. I've been an interested observer for a few years though. As ever, take what I (or anyone) may say with caution, do your own research, and make up your own mind.

598 Almost Killed by Space Hookers  Tue, Sep 22, 2009 10:12:13pm

re: #597 iceweasel

Sent you a mail.

599 dogberry  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:27:55am

Can't do everything to combat racism all at once, so start with the criminal justice system. For any criminal act against a member of a different race, the system should tack on five years at hard labor.

600 Boris Badenov  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 10:50:36am

re: #599 dogberry

Can't do everything to combat racism all at once, so start with the criminal justice system. For any criminal act against a member of a different race, the system should tack on five years at hard labor.

Спасиба, Товарицч Сталин!

601 e  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 3:25:07pm

You either stand on principle or you don't. I wish there weren't all the drama and this was less confrontational, but I prefer not associating with fascists. Politics may make strange bedfellows but you can at least set the ground rules of what you will and will not tolerate.

And, of course, there is no place in any public discourse on either side for large puppets. The line must be drawn.

602 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 9:01:11am
603 Charles Johnson  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 1:39:50pm

re: #602 goose

Auf wiedereshen!

604 DeathtotheSwiss  Fri, Sep 25, 2009 11:43:53am

Sharmuta is an evil hench-person???

I go away for a few months and the whole blogosphere goes to hell.

Did Allahpundit turn against Charles too?


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