Audio: Robert Stacy McCain on Alan Colmes Radio Show

Here’s a clip from the Alan Colmes radio show, in April 2006, featuring white supremacist blogger Robert Stacy McCain trying to defend himself against the charge that he’s made numerous racist comments on the record.

I use the word “trying” because this is one of the most pathetic performances of evasion and misdirection I’ve ever heard. You won’t believe this one.

MP3 Audio

Notice that McCain does admit that he posted at Free Republic under the name “BurkeCalhounDabney,” and as we showed in this post, some of the links McCain posted were to outright white supremacist and neo-Nazi sites. For example: Overthrow.com.

The source of Robert Stacy McCain’s username is Robert Lewis Dabney, an unabashed Confederate racist who said — after the Civil War — that slavery was “the righteous, the best, yea, the only tolerable relation” between whites and blacks.

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148 comments
1 Ben Hur  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:55:40pm

Can we make fun of his middle name?

2 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:55:49pm

McCain's probably an angry guy because he grew up with a girl's middle name. Kind of like a boy named Sue.

3 rwdflynavy  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:56:02pm

Look everybody, Alan Colmes is winning an argument!

4 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:56:17pm

re: #1 Ben Hur

GMTA

5 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:56:26pm

Repost from the prior thread.

This is a near-classic example of "crayfishing" (on McCain's part).

6 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:56:28pm

He doesn't know if it's racist to refuse to do business with a black person.

Nice company you're keeping Hot Air!

7 rwdflynavy  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:56:38pm

re: #2 Mad Al-Jaffee

McCain's probably an angry guy because he grew up with a girl's middle name. Kind of like a boy named Sue.


Don't you dare call him Stacy! Everyone calls him Psycho.

8 arielle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:57:34pm

re: #3 rwdflynavy

Well against a real live racist, how hard can that be?

9 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:57:39pm
...some of the links McCain put on FreeRepublic were to outright white supremacist and neo-Nazi sites.

That's indisputable. There's no doubt that they are neo-Nazi sites and he admitted that was his nic.

10 rwdflynavy  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:58:07pm

re: #8 arielle

Well against a real live racist, how hard can that be?

Come on now, let's think of Alan's self-esteem!

11 cliffster  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:58:15pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

He doesn't know if it's racist to refuse to do business with a black person.

He asked a few times, "what is a racist?" Could somebody get this guy a mirror?

12 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:58:33pm

Confirmed.

13 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:59:00pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

He doesn't know if it's racist to refuse to do business with a black person.

Nice company you're keeping Hot Air!

IMHO, his replies had nothing to do with that.
He realized Colmes had him where the hairs are short and curly.

14 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 12:59:02pm

There he admits to the postings at Free Republic, what does the wayback machine say?

15 arielle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:00:07pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

Not only is it racist, it is just plain stupid business!

16 Big Steve  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:00:11pm

Classic misdirection...state an obvious thing "everyone is entitled to their opinion" and then act like you are defending that statement.

17 Kragar  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:00:24pm

Robert McCain, get the fuck out of my country, you piece of shit!

18 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:01:31pm

But but but ...

Charles is having a meltdown and accusing some guy of being a racist.

And the guy wrote a 3 point counter which I didn't completely understand but sure sounded good.

/ saving you all trips to the hate blogs

19 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:01:35pm

re: #13 pre-Boomer Marine brat

IMHO, his replies had nothing to do with that.
He realized Colmes had him where the hairs are short and curly.

Oh- absolutely. It's the same reason why he hasn't refuted a damn thing Charles or Kejda posted about him but instead keeps flinging poo and obfuscating.

20 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:01:38pm

re: #1 Ben Hur

Can we make fun of his middle name?

You can if you want, but I won't.

I happen to be a great fan of Stacy Keach's manly performance in "Conduct Unbecoming".

21 Kragar  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:02:00pm

Some people don't get to have an opinion. Some people are completey batshit insane or down right evil their opinion deserves to be drowned out and tossed aside out of hand.

22 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:02:32pm

re: #11 cliffster

He asked a few times, "what is a racist?" Could somebody get this guy a mirror?

See my #13, then my #5.

23 cliffster  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:02:57pm

re: #1 Ben Hur

Can we make fun of his middle name?

His dad was trying to make him tough.

24 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:03:26pm

re: #21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Some people don't get to have an opinion. Some people are completey batshit insane or down right evil their opinion deserves to be drowned out and tossed aside out of hand.

Naw, even the total vile assholes who live in bileous barrells of shit get to have an opinion. We get to mock them mercilessly however.

25 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:03:32pm

Get this. Robert Stacy McCain is now attacking Medaura and quoting Rodan from a Blogmocracy post.

He's sinking lower by the day.

26 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:03:35pm

Wow...Robert Stacy McCain and Alan Colmes? How could I not click on the audio?

It's like winning the lottery...

/...of suck

27 Big Steve  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:03:51pm

Is it just me does Robert McCain sound like Tom Delay? Not his ideas, just his voice inflection.

28 Ben Hur  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:04:08pm

re: #25 Gus 802

Get this. Robert Stacy McCain is now attacking Medaura and quoting Rodan from a Blogmocracy post.

He's sinking lower by the day.


My money is on Medaura.

29 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:04:08pm

Boy. Does this guy suck.

30 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:04:14pm

re: #25 Gus 802

Heh, I just noticed that.

31 Eowyn2  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:04:15pm

can I go OT this soon? I'm only in here for a minute between work projects today

[Link: online.wsj.com...]

Winter Baby Syndrome

I am going to go with this is being caused by Prom Night. Abolish Prom Night.

32 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:04:19pm

re: #19 Sharmuta

Oh- absolutely. It's the same reason why he hasn't refuted a damn thing Charles or Kejda posted about him but instead keeps flinging poo and obfuscating.

Actually, I was wrong in my first reply.
When Colmes grabbed, he discovered there was nothing there.

33 lawhawk  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:06:00pm

re: #19 Sharmuta

Oh- absolutely. It's the same reason why he hasn't refuted a damn thing Charles or Kejda posted about him but instead keeps flinging poo and obfuscating.

Fight with the facts. If you can't, pound the table. In RS McCain's case, he and those who apparently have no problem associating or covering for a full blown racist, throw a temper tantrum for exposing the blatant racism and overt associations and close ties with white supremacists, racists, and others with dubious backgrounds and attack the person who exposes those ties.

34 Ben Hur  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:07:30pm

re: #20 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You can if you want, but I won't.

I happen to be a great fan of Stacy Keach's manly performance in "Conduct Unbecoming".

Stacy Keach and you bring up Conduct Unbecoming?!?

This is his masterpiece.

35 arielle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:07:35pm

re: #10 rwdflynavy

heh.

36 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:07:55pm

re: #28 Ben Hur

My money is on Medaura.

He already posted over at her site, and all he had was a lame attempt to try to shame her, which isn't surprising considering he's also a misogynistic asshole.

Again- he can't refute a single claim of Charles' or Kejda's. All he has is ad hominem and obfuscation.

37 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:08:00pm
38 Danny  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:08:19pm

Paraphrase...

Combs: "Is it racism to discriminate against a person because of the color of their skin?"
McCain: "Define racism..."

39 Ben Hur  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:08:36pm

re: #34 Ben Hur

I just noticed it says, "F*ck Iran!" on the blackboard.

40 Kronocide  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:09:06pm

JSM,

When you're in a hole, the first thing you do is stop digging.

Regards,
Reality.

41 TheBull271  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:09:52pm

I don't know about anybody else but it seems all blogs are now race baiting.. Im getting a headache from all of this mess!

42 arielle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:10:16pm

re: #40 BigPapa

It seems like lately a lot of blogs have purchased industrial sized diggers and have gone to town.

43 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:10:24pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Heh, I just noticed that.

Get's even weirder. RS McCain Tweeted it to @MelissaTweets, @husseymichael and to #glennbeck.

He also Tweeted it to @kedja.

Something tells me that RS McCain is another stalker.

44 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:10:49pm

re: #25 Gus 802

Get this. Robert Stacy McCain is now attacking Medaura and quoting Rodan from a Blogmocracy post.

He's sinking lower by the day.

LOL! Quoting Rick Martinez? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
RS McCain has sunk lower than the bottom of the Marianas Trench.

BTW, RS McCain is such a moron, he got cornered and pwned by Alan Colmes.

45 Ben Hur  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:11:09pm

re: #36 Sharmuta

He already posted over at her site, and all he had was a lame attempt to try to shame her, which isn't surprising considering he's also a misogynistic asshole.

Again- he can't refute a single claim of Charles' or Kejda's. All he has is ad hominem and obfuscation.

Do you have a link to her site?

46 Racer X  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:11:10pm

re: #40 BigPapa

JSM,

When you're in a hole, the first thing you do is stop digging.

Regards,
Reality.

RSM?

47 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:11:30pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

He doesn't know if it's racist to refuse to do business with a black person.

Nice company you're keeping Hot Air!

It reminds me a lot of Jihadi apologists who don't know if suicide bombing is bad... It is the exact same twisting and attempts to not answer, while they clearly can not just give the right answer of "of course this is wrong."

Right?

The fact that they can not just say it for what it obviously is, is all the proof one needs of their views. It is nothing more than craven equivocation. They know full well that if they just come out in open support of such things they are in trouble, but they also can not bring themselves to speak the truth either.

48 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:12:47pm

re: #44 Honorary Yooper

LOL! Quoting Rick Martinez? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
RS McCain has sunk lower than the bottom of the Marianas Trench.

BTW, RS McCain is such a moron, he got cornered and pwned by Alan Colmes.

He's obviously suffering from chronic Peter Pan Syndrome.

Here are the Tweets:

[Link: twitter.com...]

Both are at the top at this time.

49 drogheda  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:13:05pm

re: #14 Thanos

There he admits to the postings at Free Republic, what does the wayback machine say?

If you look for the site Stacy McCain mentions, Dennis Wheeler's Reclaiming the South you can dig out the discussion from 1996 that Stacy McCain mentions. It consists of an introduction page and then eight rather long pages of text that comprise the discussion.

I will post the links if anyone would like to see them.

50 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:13:12pm

re: #45 Ben Hur

Do you have a link to her site?

[Link: www.kejda.net...]

51 Kronocide  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:13:19pm

re: #46 Racer X

RSM?

Doh! Yes, Robert Stacy McCain.

52 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:13:20pm

re: #34 Ben Hur

Stacy Keach and you bring up Conduct Unbecoming?!?

This is his masterpiece.

I've never even heard of that one.

/Looks like we have different tastes in motion pictures ... :D

53 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:13:25pm

re: #3 rwdflynavy

Look everybody, Alan Colmes is winning an argument!

Alan isn't winning, McCain is loosing just by opening his mouth. Alan couldn't win an argument with a corpse.

54 rwdflynavy  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:14:24pm

re: #53 Walter L. Newton

Alan isn't winning, McCain is loosing just by opening his mouth. Alan couldn't win an argument with a corpse.


Meanie!

55 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:15:12pm

I apologize for a repost, but everyone seems to have moved up here, and I wanted to add, what I think is a very important thought about dealing with left and right in regards to Israel.

I don't think that this (accepting support form the left or the right) is an either or proposition.

The biggest friend of Israel is America. If, as America polarizes ever more dramatically, we get glommed in too much with one side or the other, we will lose.

Our stance should always focus on the sorts of principles of fairness and decency that all Americans claim to espouse. Our claim is just. We must make that claim in clear tones. We can do that without alienating either side.

What we must do with the moonbats on the left is to very loudly and directly engage them, not with long convoluted history lessons, but rather with the same sort of direct engagement of memes that the Arab propagandists have so successfully employed. The difference is that our memes are actually true and not based on lies. We fail because we argue like Jews. We need to hit hard and in bite sizes.

As to the right, I think it can not be underestimated how mach hatred of Bush and hatred of the Religious Right has been projected onto us. This is a double edged sword. We would do very well if we did not become ANY faction's pet cause and stayed in the middle.

56 Kronocide  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:16:24pm

The Right Wing keeps making me look like the lady newscaster in this video:


One swear word, but priceless.
57 Equable  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:17:34pm

A "journalist" who cannot define racism on the fly.

Whee! What a guy!

58 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:17:57pm

re: #14 Thanos

There he admits to the postings at Free Republic, what does the wayback machine say?

I admit (with some embarrassment) that I used to post on Free Republic, but I remember his postings on Usenet, to alt.war.civil.usa

59 Ben Hur  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:18:10pm

re: #50 Sharmuta

Thank you

60 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:19:15pm

re: #43 Gus 802

Get's even weirder. RS McCain Tweeted it to @MelissaTweets, @husseymichael and to #glennbeck.

He also Tweeted it to @kedja.

Something tells me that RS McCain is another stalker.

His blog is pathetic and he's really enjoying the traffic and attention, imo.

I hope some people are proud of themselves for standing up for this bigot and letting him have a voice at their blog.

I'm looking at you, Allahpundit. Some friend you are.

61 Jack Burton  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:19:58pm

"You're gonna run into jerk offs. But remember, it's not the size of the asshole you worry about, it's how much shit comes out of it." - Justin's Dad

62 Ben Hur  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:20:51pm

4:21

ALways late.

63 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:24:47pm

re: #60 Sharmuta

His blog is pathetic and he's really enjoying the traffic and attention, imo.

I hope some people are proud of themselves for standing up for this bigot and letting him have a voice at their blog.

I'm looking at you, Allahpundit. Some friend you are.

Allahpundit should know that one is judged by the company you keep. So should Hot Air. Frankly, I don't think they care. They're driving that bus towards the paleo-cons and Vdare crowd. The latter for obvious "internal management" reasons.

64 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:24:58pm

re: #58 Alouette

I admit (with some embarrassment) that I used to post on Free Republic, but I remember his postings on Usenet, to alt.war.civil.usa

There are archives for Usenet too, I know I pulled up some real embarrassing posts I made from way back when. (nothing political, just a big flame war with a prof at the Max Planck institute over the properties of light in fiber optics) I wasn't wrong, but I was a vicious ass back then.

65 Equable  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:25:39pm

By the way Stephen Harper's remarks about Ahmadinejad and his appearance at the U.N. is golden. It's nice to see someone walk and talk like a frigging LEADER.

Go Canada!

66 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:26:36pm

I'm sure all the attention has left Stacy feeling like the prettiest boy at the cotillion, but then- the competition wasn't too steep.

67 Baier  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:27:39pm

re: #55 LudwigVanQuixote

If facts mattered to antisemites and racists they wouldn't exist.

68 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:28:47pm

re: #67 Baier

If facts mattered to antisemites and racists they wouldn't exist.

That is true. We won't sway them, but we can check them from convincing others who do not know better and won't look up the facts on their own.

69 A Man for all Seasons  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:29:56pm

re: #68 LudwigVanQuixote

That is true. We won't sway them, but we can check them from convincing others who do not know better and won't look up the facts on their own.

Hi Ludwig...Hope you are well...

70 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:30:34pm

I notice that Baldilocks is now posting at Hot Air in support of Robert Stacy McCain, which is just -- incredibly weird.

71 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:30:38pm

re: #65 Equable

I was about to post something along those lines...dang.

Can we do a straight-up one for one trade with the Canucks? Harper for 0bama? The Alberta oilman for the Windy City snake oilman?

72 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:31:35pm

re: #70 Charles

I notice that Baldilocks is now posting at Hot Air in support of Robert Stacy McCain, which is just -- incredibly weird.

She should ask him if she can be his sister-in-law, or if he'd do business with her.

73 Equable  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:32:53pm

re: #71 Fenway_Nation

I was about to post something along those lines...dang.

Can we do a straight-up one for one trade with the Canucks? Harper for 0bama? The Alberta oilman for the Windy City snake oilman?


I would certainly hope so. We're frigging neighbors for Pete's sake. I hope we show solidarity with our Canadian friends.

74 Equable  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:33:21pm

Oops, forgot to add the sarcasm tag lol!

75 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:34:03pm

re: #70 Charles

I notice that Baldilocks is now posting at Hot Air in support of Robert Stacy McCain, which is just -- incredibly weird.

Who is Baldilocks?

I don't get out enough. I read and post at LGF's and read CNN, FOX, Drudge and a read and post in a local PHP forum, but that's it.

Maybe I need to start circulating more.

76 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:34:04pm

re: #73 Equable


'I'm not fully aware of all the facts...but Prime Minister Harper acted stupidly...'

/TOTUS

77 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:34:05pm

re: #72 Sharmuta

She should ask him if she can be his sister-in-law, or if he'd do business with her.

Not that expect I'll give a sh*t, but who th' h*ll is "Baldilocks"?

78 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:34:37pm

re: #77 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Not that expect I'll give a sh*t, but who th' h*ll is "Baldilocks"?

[Link: www.google.com...]

79 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:34:54pm

re: #70 Charles

I notice that Baldilocks is now posting at Hot Air in support of Robert Stacy McCain, which is just -- incredibly weird.

If I'm not mistaken she link to Gates of Vienna at her blog.

80 Jack Burton  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:34:55pm

re: #68 LudwigVanQuixote

That is true. We won't sway them, but we can check them from convincing others who do not know better and won't look up the facts on their own.

Convincing others who do not know better and wont or don't have the time to look up the facts has been going on ad nauseam for as long as I can remember. If it weren't, there would be no 9-11 Troofers, no FEMA camp howlers, no Glenn Beck show, no Ghost Hunters show, no Crossing Over with John Edward, no Anti-vaxxers, no Anti-GM food moonbats, no Anti-Nuclear power kooks, Alex Jones would still be a stand up comedian known as "Bill Hicks" (j/k), and everyone would know Obama was born in Hawaii.

81 arielle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:35:03pm

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

I know what you mean. I haven't been able to keep up with a lot of previous posters in the past, although I think she is a blogger/former lgf poster who has been banned recently.

82 Ben Hur  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:35:20pm

re: #50 Sharmuta

[Link: www.kejda.net...]

There is crazier shit out there than I thought.

Through various links in the comment section, I actually saw someone on a blog posted a fake screen shot of LGF comments between KT and Charles with Charles giving him orders and such.

Effen weirod.

83 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:36:13pm

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

Who is Baldilocks?

I don't get out enough. I read and post at LGF's and read CNN, FOX, Drudge and a read and post in a local PHP forum, but that's it.

Maybe I need to start circulating more.

Looks like you "get out" more than I do.
That said, I suspect we're both better off as-is.

84 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:37:10pm

re: #70 Charles

I notice that Baldilocks is now posting at Hot Air in support of Robert Stacy McCain, which is just -- incredibly weird.

Now that is bizarre. One would think that with all RS McCain has written and said that someone like Baldilocks would shun RS McCain. Apparently it is not so.

85 Salamantis  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:37:53pm

One of those tweets has a link to this disgusting and manufactured attack on Charles:

[Link: www.therudenews.com...]

86 Jack Burton  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:39:07pm

re: #82 Ben Hur

There is crazier shit out there than I thought.

Through various links in the comment section, I actually saw someone on a blog posted a fake screen shot of LGF comments between KT and Charles with Charles giving him orders and such.

Effen weirod.

At least that idiot didn't do a very good job faking it. Only a clown would believe it... I wonder how many of those clowns actually do though.

87 Ben Hur  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:39:28pm

re: #85 Salamantis

One of those tweets has a link to this disgusting and manufactured attack on Charles:

[Link: www.therudenews.com...]

Whoa.

That's exactly what I was referring to in my #82.

I”m pretty sure the last comment attributed to CJ is BS.

88 Danny  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:39:59pm

re: #82 Ben Hur

There is crazier shit out there than I thought.

Through various links in the comment section, I actually saw someone on a blog posted a fake screen shot of LGF comments between KT and Charles with Charles giving him orders and such.

Effen weirod.

You talking about Shield of Achilles?

89 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:40:04pm

re: #78 Sharmuta

[Link: www.google.com...]

Thanks

/heading to the laundry room for the bottle of Clorox

90 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:40:16pm

re: #87 Ben Hur

Whoa.

That's exactly what I was referring to in my #82.

I''m pretty sure the last comment attributed to CJ is BS.

It's so obviously photoshopped it's not even funny.

91 Liberandos  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:40:19pm

Game, Set and Match.

Just waiting for RSM to cry uncle...

LGF republican. And all that implies.

92 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:40:20pm

re: #82 Ben Hur

There is crazier shit out there than I thought.

Through various links in the comment section, I actually saw someone on a blog posted a fake screen shot of LGF comments between KT and Charles with Charles giving him orders and such.

Effen weirod.

It is weird, and it's getting worse. Some people want so desperately to believe that Charles sent Killgore over to Hot Air to comment that they will lie about it simply to defame both Charles and Killgore. It's disgusting, IMHO.

And if you think that comment section was weirod regarding that, I've read the ones at other blogs, unfriendly blogs, and they are 10x worse. There are some real friggin' nuts on the internet.

93 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:40:42pm

re: #85 Salamantis


Throbbing deleted comment?

94 avanti  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:41:02pm

I think McCain was trying to make the point that he has a constitutional right to be a racist and I'll give him that unless he acts on it. If he's offended by interracial marriage, he should only date other racists for example, not tell others who to date.

95 arielle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:42:02pm

re: #90 Sharmuta

Complete BS. For one, I doubt Charles has ever used that many exclamation points in a post in his life.

96 Salamantis  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:42:06pm

re: #93 Fenway_Nation

Throbbing deleted comment?

Charles retains the ability to restore deleted comments and to show what was originally posted in them. He thus has the capacity to burn that imbecile as the liar he is.

97 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:43:14pm

re: #87 Ben Hur

Whoa.

That's exactly what I was referring to in my #82.

I''m pretty sure the last comment attributed to CJ is BS.

It's a fake. I never posted anything like that.

These people are disgusting.

98 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:43:25pm

re: #94 avanti

Racistdate.com?
Aryansweethearts.net?

/Look...all the good ideas for websites and domain names have been taken already.

99 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:44:24pm

re: #87 Ben Hur

Whoa.

That's exactly what I was referring to in my #82.

I''m pretty sure the last comment attributed to CJ is BS.

Well it is, because I watched the LGF thread when this was happening. And the font is different. Was this blogger really thinking he/she was getting away with this?

Why does someone have to outright lie and make something up?

100 Salamantis  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:45:01pm

re: #99 Walter L. Newton

Well it is, because I watched the LGF thread when this was happening. And the font is different. Was this blogger really thinking he/she was getting away with this?

Why does someone have to outright lie and make something up?

Because the truth wouldn't support their contentions.

101 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:45:23pm

By the way, if you're going to link to blogs like that, please go to Google and enter this:

cache:[site URL]

This will give you a link to Google's cache of the page, and prevent a link from LGF from sending them any traffic.

I've replaced both of the links to that disgusting post with cache links.

102 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:45:48pm

re: #90 Sharmuta

It's so obviously photoshopped it's not even funny.

It might have passed muster if it hadn't been put in such close proximity to the other. The fuzziness in the 2nd's text is like a sore thumb. Very amateurish.

/utterly apart from it not sounding at all like Charles to begin with

103 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:45:49pm

re: #85 Salamantis

One of those tweets has a link to this disgusting and manufactured attack on Charles:

[Link: www.therudenews.com...]

Some dumb shmucks have way too much time on their hands.

104 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:45:51pm

re: #97 Charles

It's a fake. I never posted anything like that.

These people are disgusting.

You certainly would never use that ugly font :) Of course you never wrote this, and anyone looking over the actual thread can see this and the phony "look" is so evident.

105 Salamantis  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:47:46pm

The guy checked out LGF threads so he could use the number of a deleted comment to lie about what was in it.

106 brennant  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:48:09pm

amusing, they didn't even bother to change the time of each of the posts... They also suck and photoshop. Twerps.

107 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:48:12pm

re: #102 pre-Boomer Marine brat

It might have passed muster if it hadn't been put in such close proximity to the other. The fuzziness in the 2nd's text is like a sore thumb. Very amateurish.

/utterly apart from it not sounding at all like Charles to begin with

Seriously- the Iranians are better at photoshopping than that clown.

108 avanti  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:48:16pm

re: #98 Fenway_Nation

Racistdate.com?
Aryansweethearts.net?

/Look...all the good ideas for websites and domain names have been taken already.

bigotbuddies.com ?
Hitlerhotties.com ?

109 Guanxi88  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:48:27pm

re: #105 Salamantis

The guy checked out LGF threads so he could use the number of a deleted comment to lie about what was in it.

The blog equivalent of taking your assumed identity from a gravestone.

110 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:49:00pm

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111 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:50:57pm

re: #107 Sharmuta

Seriously- the Iranians are better at photoshopping than that clown.

Yes.

/... they DID do the Wile E. Coyote one ... DIDN'T THEY?!?!?!

112 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:51:04pm

re: #85 Salamantis

One of those tweets has a link to this disgusting and manufactured attack on Charles:

[Link: www.therudenews.com...]

It's got a fake screenshot of that LGF thread as well. Claims it is #969 at 10:20:04 am PDT on 9/18/2009.
The real comment 969 was this, by Killgore Trout.
There was no comment at 10:20:04 am PDT.

In addition, I don't think Cox and Forkum would be too happy to see their cartoon being used as such at the top of the page.

113 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:51:10pm

A photoshop so bad it makes reuters look good.

114 Honorary Yooper  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:53:08pm

re: #105 Salamantis

The guy checked out LGF threads so he could use the number of a deleted comment to lie about what was in it.

Problem is, the comment was not deleted. It a comment by Killgore apologising for his actions and any trouble they may have caused. See my #112 for the link.

115 Jack Burton  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:55:31pm

re: #110 Gus 802

The common clay of the new West.

You know... morons.

116 Ben Hur  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:56:02pm

re: #97 Charles

It's a fake. I never posted anything like that.

These people are disgusting.

You don't have to convince me, Charles.

I knew it right away.

It was obvious on so many levels.

117 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:56:31pm

re: #115 ArchangelMichael

The common clay of the new West.

You know... morons.

Looks like it. Although, one could say they give morons a bad name.

//

118 tradewind  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:58:46pm

re: #28 Ben Hur

She hit him where it hurt.

119 Salamantis  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 1:58:59pm

Anyboduy gonna go over to Rude News and post a refutation, complete with links to the actual comments?

And see how long it stays up?

120 tradewind  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 2:01:05pm

re: #101 Charles

Cool.. thanks for that tip.

121 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 2:01:14pm

re: #119 Salamantis

It's all you, Sal. Be sure to point out the incorrect use of "your".

122 Jack Burton  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 2:10:11pm

re: #119 Salamantis

Anyboduy gonna go over to Rude News and post a refutation, complete with links to the actual comments?

And see how long it stays up?

These people are starting to make my frontal lobe hurt. There must be a repetitive motion injury caused by arguing with idiots, maniacs, and/or assholes over and over.

123 Guanxi88  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 2:14:10pm

re: #122 ArchangelMichael

These people are starting to make my frontal lobe hurt. There must be a repetitive motion injury caused by arguing with idiots, maniacs, and/or assholes over and over.

Well, I think we're all in for it for a while

124 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 2:14:36pm

re: #112 Honorary Yooper

What idiots. The color of the font in the fake comment is obviously darker. Judging by the grammar I'd guess it was Rodan.

125 SummerSong  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 2:15:06pm

False witness. You are lying rude dog. Shamelessly lying. Karma will get ya for that.

126 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 2:17:57pm

RSM comments on his blog...

The fact that I am willing to defend myself without addressing any particular accusation (and, in fact, I have specifically addressed everything, at some point or another) does not lend any credibility to my accuser.


He doesn't like to answer questions.

127 Salamantis  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 2:20:54pm

This is what I posted:

Actually, comment #969 remains there, although it was not posted at 9/18/2009 10:20:04 am PDT (no comment was posted at that time on the thread). It received no updings or downdings, not three. And this is what it actually says:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

969 Killgore Trout
9/18/2009 10:08:46 am PDT 0

re: #966 Charles

I apologize if this causes trouble for you. I was being intentionally outrageous but didn’t expect this to be such a drama.

Sal: If you want to read the entire thread to get context, here it is:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

You’re busted, nimrod. Your sick little slander site should be retitled Crude Lies – because you lack the intelligence to perpetrate anything remotely convincing or difficult to completely, utterly refute. Your twisted attempt at homoerotic dildo humor as a way to insult someone betrays an unhealthy homophobic obsession, and you can’t even spell ’sycophant’ right.

Now let’s see how long you let THIS post stay up.
___

It is 'awaiting moderation'; what's the over and under that it never gets posted?

128 mich-again  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 2:22:31pm

RSM wisdom...

Is Vlaams Belang "fascist"? I can't even pretend to know that. I've never set foot in Belgium, I don't know any Belgians, and everything I know about the political sympathies of Vlaams Belang would therefore be second-hand at best.

Thats weak to say the least. There is an overwhelming amount of evidence that is readily available just by looking. If he wants to run interference for VB that excuse is a lazy way to do it.

Is there really a planet called Mars? I can't pretend to know that. I've never set foot on Mars. I don't know any Martians and everything I know would therefore be second-hand at best.

129 tokyobk  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 2:25:31pm

...and of course his middle name is from John C Calhoun whose race politics are unmistakable.

130 shiplord kirel  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 2:26:38pm

Dabney's biography of Stonewall Jackson is still in print and has iconic status among certain paleocons.
Among other things, he equates the Union forces with 1848 European revolutionaries and accuses them of fighting under the "red banner of socialism" and for "communism," though the term had a somewhat different meaning then.

131 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 2:32:46pm

re: #127 Salamantis

It is 'awaiting moderation'; what's the over and under that it never gets posted?

I wager it doesn't even get posted.

132 SummerSong  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 2:38:01pm

re: #127 Salamantis

It hasn't posted yet... What a slimy little wanna be. Hoping for some attention and traffic by manufacturing a pitiful lie. Wonder what his mates will think of him when they find out the truth of what he has done.

133 Salamantis  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 2:46:35pm

re: #132 SummerSong

It hasn't posted yet... What a slimy little wanna be. Hoping for some attention and traffic by manufacturing a pitiful lie. Wonder what his mates will think of him when they find out the truth of what he has done.

They'll most probably giggle, snort and chortle like the puerile little Beavises and Buttheads they are.

134 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 3:16:40pm

re: #126 Killgore Trout

He doesn't like to answer questions.

And look at how he does it ...

The fact [ed - as if a strong, supportable assertion is about to be made] that I am willing [ed - interesting word choice - not "choosing" - willing is both imperious yet evasive] to defend myself without addressing any particular accusation (and, in fact [ed - get ready for that strong, supportable assertion!], I have specifically addressed everything [ed - very strong statement - maybe we will get support?], at some point or another [ed - what a letdown. Vague as can be. "Go find Nicole's real killer - he is out there"]) does not lend any credibility to my accuser [ed - it does. See prior comment. Oh - and that should be "accusers" because there are many and they are a growing group].

135 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 3:20:14pm

re: #133 Salamantis

They'll most probably giggle, snort and chortle like the puerile little Beavises and Buttheads they are.

Nearly an hour later and it STILL hasn't posted
... but when I clicked Refresh, I did hear giggling in the background.

136 Salamantis  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 3:23:11pm

In my opinion, this moron mever intended for his photoshop to be believed; he just wanted to post a gratuitous sniggering slag on Charles.

137 Salamantis  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 3:23:49pm

Umm...Never intended...

PIMF

138 centaur  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 3:31:28pm

Some people say bowling alleys all look the same.

139 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 3:37:35pm

This spluttering fool makes Sarah Palin's lame attempt to get out of answering Katie Couric's straightforward question about which newspapers she reads ("all of 'em") sound downright ingenuous.

140 mph  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 3:48:49pm

Stacy McCain talks the same way he blogs...

I was on Alan Colmes show once...

141 TedStriker  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 4:04:50pm

re: #70 Charles

I notice that Baldilocks is now posting at Hot Air in support of Robert Stacy McCain, which is just -- incredibly weird.

Is she f**king nuts? Does she not know what kind of low-down racist, bigoted viper RSM is?

/shakes head at another "conservative" running blindly to hop on the krayzee train...

142 fat.elvis  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 5:10:46pm

Ha. Digging through some of Stacy McCain's posts the other day I remember him saying something along the lines of "I'm not good on TV but a natural on radio".

Hardly.

143 metrolibertarian  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 5:57:46pm

Ahhh John C. Calhoun, who said slavery wasn't a necessary evil but a positive good (or something along those hideous lines).

I wonder if Mr. McCain's defenders would be so tolerant of someone who posted on Democratic Underground with the name EngelsWallaceReed (for the uninitiated, Henry Wallace and Jack Reed). Somehow I doubt it.

144 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 6:29:20pm

You know what RSM's evasiveness reminds me of- the filip dewinter interview on Shire News Radio.

145 marwan's daughter  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 6:56:39pm

re: #112 Honorary Yooper

It's got a fake screenshot of that LGF thread as well. Claims it is #969 at 10:20:04 am PDT on 9/18/2009.
The real comment 969 was this, by Killgore Trout.
There was no comment at 10:20:04 am PDT.

In addition, I don't think Cox and Forkum would be too happy to see their cartoon being used as such at the top of the page.

WTF is this s***?

146 lsrslr14  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:35:13pm

RS McCain? Glenn Reynolds links to him periodically. I guess that's why I read multiple blogs, to find out what's really going on.

147 Yankee Zionist  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 8:34:45am

He's done. Put a fork in him.

Just listening to that audio creeped me out.

148 M. Dubious  Fri, Sep 25, 2009 12:01:03pm

Strange. He's combining shouting with a non-denial denial. Not very persuasive now, is it?


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