Glenn Beck: Frog Killer

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This might have been another Glenn Beck stunt, designed to deliberately provoke outrage. He might come on his show tomorrow and say, “Hah! Fooled all you liberal commies! Had you going!”

Or he might not. How sad is it that we even have to ask the question?

But even if it was a stunt, and no frog was killed … this is still amazingly sick. This show airs at a time in the early afternoon when children are watching.

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UPDATE at 9/23/09 10:41:04 pm:

I don’t watch Glenn Beck, but readers inform me that after this segment Beck revealed he was using a rubber frog.

My point about the irresponsibility of this kind of stunt still stands.

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411 comments

1 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:13:39pm

It is hard to see in the frog of culture war.

2 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:13:43pm

No frogs were killed. There's a cut. And if you pause, you see nothing going in. Nevertheless, it was really stupid. He's like a six-year-old boy running around in his pajamas when company comes over.

3 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:15:00pm

He's out of his ever lovin' mind!

4 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:15:08pm

I think it was a stunt, and is just as revealing of his character and his idea of what is 'funny' as were his previous stunts of pretending to pour gasoline on a guest and strike a match, and his extended riff on the idea of poisoning Pelosi.

5 Racer X  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:16:49pm

What a dork.

6 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:16:56pm

This could be Beck's final meltdown.

Even if it was faked, this is unbelievably ugly. I'm pretty astounded that Fox News let this air.

7 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:17:01pm

Up next on Glen Beck's Manic-Depressive Kitchen, Alex Jones shows us how it's not possible for fire to melt steel and a tasty new raspberry dumpling recipe...

8 kiwiviv  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:17:07pm

Some people do dumb things to make a point and try to be heard

9 erraticsphinx  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:17:07pm

He has a lot of issues.
This won't end well.

10 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:17:55pm

Perhaps he is after the Ozzie Osbourne sector?

11 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:17:58pm

Oh my.

12 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:18:23pm

Refresh my memory...who did Rupert Murdoch endorse in the 2008 presidential election?

13 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:18:23pm

Beck days have got to be numbered. I know he has high ratings but is it worth it?

14 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:18:45pm

re: #6 Charles

Beck could retire and afford groceries for life at this point, probably.

15 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:19:03pm

As Many Truths are Spoken through False Teeth - Beck is right on this one, metaphorically at least. His point was that where Sens. McCain and Obama agreed on policy, legislation would more likely have been passed under a Pres. McCain, with Republican Support than under Pres. Obama with NO REPUBLICAN SUPPORT. The "water" would have felt "luke-warm" rather than Boiling. That is all.

-S-

16 Racer X  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:19:11pm

Forget about Glenn Beck because he is fake.

17 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:19:15pm

How many people must have known he was going to do this? A dozen? Nobody talked him out of it. Amazing.

18 SlartyBartfast  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:19:48pm

re: #7 Fenway_Nation

Glen Beck's Manic-Depressive Kitchen!

Almost spewed my wine on that one...

19 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:20:10pm

Who is Fox News trying to appeal to with this?

What kind of person thinks that was amusing?

20 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:21:04pm

re: #10 bofhell

Perhaps he is after the Ozzie Osbourne sector?

Quick, somebody call Ozzie for an indecipherable comment.

21 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:21:06pm

re: #19 Charles

Only the depraved would think boiling a live animal on air was amusing.

22 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:21:08pm

I watched this earlier. Looks like slight of hand to me (and not very good at that). File me under "meh" for this one. If he'd fried it with garlic and butter I'd sit at the table with him and eat it.
HuffPo did post this with some earlier footage of him that I hadn't seen before...
Glenn Beck & Tim Hattrick Y95 TV No Gimmicks

Idiot.

23 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:21:34pm

re: #17 HelloDare

Well you see pitiless running after money by the management of Fox here, keeping the poor guy on the air.

24 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:21:53pm

re: #19 Charles

Who is Fox News trying to appeal to with this?

What kind of person thinks that was amusing?

Sideshow geeks.

25 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:21:59pm

Fucking bastard.

26 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:22:31pm

re: #4 iceweasel

I think it was a stunt, and is just as revealing of his character and his idea of what is 'funny' as were his previous stunts of pretending to pour gasoline on a guest and strike a match, and his extended riff on the idea of poisoning Pelosi.

in the park?

27 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:22:37pm

Koskidz: A Pictoral History of Racism in the United States: Context is Everything

A bit heavy handed but I can't throw stones from my glass house.

28 avanti  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:22:40pm

re: #6 Charles

This could be Beck's final meltdown.

Even if it was faked, this is unbelievably ugly. I'm pretty astounded that Fox News let this air.

I thought it was dumb, but than cooking a lobster is done just that way, and I can't handle that either.

29 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:23:08pm

re: #21 Sharmuta

Only the depraved would think boiling a live animal on air was amusing.

What about cooking shows with a menu of lobser thermidor?

30 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:23:10pm

re: #26 SanFranciscoZionist

In bed.

31 rwmofo  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:23:11pm

re: #19 Charles

Who is Fox News trying to appeal to with this?

What kind of person thinks that was amusing?

Out of 300 million Americans, probably more than you guessed.

32 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:23:12pm

Is Glenn Beck bad for frogs?

/Future Time Magazine cover.

33 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:23:18pm

re: #20 HelloDare

Quick, somebody call Ozzie for an indecipherable comment.

You mean that wasn't him at the UN today? Twice??? Darn...

34 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:23:31pm

re: #29 MandyManners

Eeech.

35 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:23:48pm

re: #7 Fenway_Nation

Up next on Glen Beck's Manic-Depressive Kitchen, Alex Jones shows us how it's not possible for fire to melt steel and a tasty new raspberry dumpling recipe...

The Reduced Shakespeare Company does Titus Andronicus as a cooking show. I think this falls into a similar category.

36 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:23:50pm

re: #29 MandyManners

What about cooking shows with a menu of lobser thermidor?

Not the same.

EAT THE FROG, GLENN

37 transient  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:23:53pm

Desperate for attention.

38 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:24:21pm

re: #8 kiwiviv

Some people do dumb things to make a point and try to be heard

What, I ask nervously, is the point of boiling a frog?

39 rwmofo  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:24:26pm

re: #25 MandyManners

Fucking bastard.

No. of comments posted: 98,965

Go for it Mandy. 35 comments to glory.

40 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:24:26pm

EAT THE FROG, GLENN.

41 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:24:36pm

re: #36 MandyManners

Things are sure hopping over at the Glenn Beck show.

42 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:24:46pm

re: #39 rwmofo

No. of comments posted: 98,965

Go for it Mandy. 35 comments to glory.

Huh?

43 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:24:51pm

re: #28 avanti

I thought it was dumb, but than cooking a lobster is done just that way, and I can't handle that either.

"Guns aren't toys! They're for family protection, hunting dangerous or delicious animals, and keeping the King of England out of your face!"
-Homer

44 SlartyBartfast  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:24:52pm

Glenn Beck only wishes he had the lasting influence of this guy.

45 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:24:56pm

re: #29 MandyManners

What about cooking shows with a menu of lobser thermidor?

Context is everything.

46 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:25:04pm

I keep expecting Miss Piggy to come flying out of the side and hit Beck with her karate.

47 erraticsphinx  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:25:07pm

Fox has nothing to lose, literally.
They have been shown to have no journalistic integrity or credibility (being conservative in a sea of liberals does not make you credible).

It's becoming far, far right wing infotainment at a rapid pace, with Glenn Beck leading the charge.

48 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:25:20pm

EAT THE FROG, GLENN.

49 Racer X  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:25:43pm

re: #41 Ojoe

Things are sure hopping over at the Glenn Beck show.

This story has legs.

50 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:25:44pm

re: #41 Ojoe

Things are sure hopping over at the Glenn Beck show.

Glenn Beck as Hoppity Hooper!

Only not as smart.

51 revobob  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:25:45pm

re: #20 HelloDare

Quick, somebody call Ozzie for an indecipherable comment.

Ozzie's not in- he's watching his daughter on Dancing With The Stars..

52 rwmofo  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:25:48pm

re: #42 MandyManners

Huh?

Oh crap. Where's my calculator? I though it was 99965. D'Oh!

53 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:25:58pm

re: #41 Ojoe

Things are sure hopping over at the Glenn Beck show.

How long a GIG will it be?

54 Racer X  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:26:01pm

re: #48 MandyManners

EAT THE FROG, GLENN.

Or at least lick the toad.

55 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:26:06pm

re: #48 MandyManners

EAT THE FROG, GLENN.

Shouldn't he take the bones out first?
(let's see who gets this reference)

56 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:26:07pm

re: #36 MandyManners

Not the same.

EAT THE FROG, GLENN

If it's OK with you, I would be just as glad NOT to watch Glenn Beck eat a boiled frog.

57 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:26:17pm

All mae liburtees is boiling away! Oh Noes!

///
how many times have we heard this canard?

58 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:26:21pm

re: #49 Racer X

It might croak before you realize it, tho'.

59 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:26:32pm

EAT THE FUCKING FROG, GLENN.

60 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:26:35pm

re: #49 Racer X

No one will be able to frog - git about this story.

61 Ringo the Gringo  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:26:36pm

You know, in Laos or Vietnam, tossing a couple of frogs into the pot would mean nothing more than dinner would be ready soon...but this ain't Cambodia.

Yikes.

.../I'm assuming there were not any frogs actually hurt in this rant...I hope.

62 avanti  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:26:56pm

re: #40 MandyManners

EAT THE FROG, GLENN.

Miss Peggy, answering the phone, says:

"I can't talk right now, I've got a frog in my throat."

63 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:27:06pm

All this time and nobody's posted Squirrel Melts.

64 rwmofo  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:27:06pm

Hey, just put a little hot sauce on him.

65 medaura18586  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:28:12pm

Bizarre, gratuitous lunacy... In that department, Beck never under-performs.

66 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:28:16pm

re: #62 avanti

Miss Peggy, answering the phone, says:

"I can't talk right now, I've got a frog in my throat."

Why, you.

Sick. Fucking sick.

*snort*

67 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:28:31pm

I can't help it. Maybe it proves I'm just a liberal commie.

But there's a big difference between preparing an animal to eat (such as a lobster), and staging the killing of an animal on live television to make a political point.

This is bad craziness. In spades.

68 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:28:35pm

This stunt is the frog sting on the cake.

69 Truck Monkey  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:29:26pm

re: #62 avanti

Miss Peggy, answering the phone, says:

"I can't talk right now, I've got a frog in my throat."

Now that there is just plain ole' funny. Hearty upding.

70 avanti  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:29:47pm

re: #66 MandyManners

Why, you.

Sick. Fucking sick.

*snort*

Hey, I resemble that. :)

71 revobob  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:30:03pm

I bet the frog was pithed

72 SlartyBartfast  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:30:04pm

re: #67 Charles

From an early age I was taught: "If you're not going to eat it, don't kill it."

73 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:30:48pm

re: #55 Kosh's Shadow

Shouldn't he take the bones out first?
(let's see who gets this reference)

If he took out the bones, it wouldn't be crunchy, would it?

74 Buck  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:31:12pm

re: #19 Charles

Who is Fox News trying to appeal to with this?

What kind of person thinks that was amusing?

Balance... even nuts deserve a voice.

75 transient  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:31:23pm

This would disturb me a lot more if I thought there was even a tiny chance he had really thrown the frogs in.

76 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:31:23pm
77 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:31:49pm

re: #67 Charles

I can't help it. Maybe it proves I'm just a liberal commie.

Hey, Wikipedia guys, did you hear that?

78 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:32:05pm

re: #72 SlartyBartfast

From an early age I was taught: "If you're not going to eat it, don't kill it."

Me too. But my grandfather was not able to explain why this rule didn't apply to flies or mosquitos.

79 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:32:48pm

re: #67 Charles

I can't help it. Maybe it proves I'm just a liberal commie.

But there's a big difference between preparing an animal to eat (such as a lobster), and staging the killing of an animal on live television to make a political point.

This is bad craziness. In spades.

He thought the frog would jump out. I'm not sure how he thought such a tiny frog would be able to jump out of such a large pan, and I'm not sure if he bothered to consider that children might have watched that. It was sick and depraved.

80 Truck Monkey  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:32:50pm

re: #76 Ojoe

Miss piggy on a Harley.

VA VA VOOOM!

81 medaura18586  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:33:14pm

re: #78 SanFranciscoZionist

I don't kill those suckers either... just because what's left of them is too gross.

82 That's Glenn Beck to you  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:33:49pm

I will have all of you know that I was victimized as a child by a gang of Frogs.

Not that any of you would understand.

But they came to town in the Citroens - accordion music blasting as they drove by. I was walking home from little league and wanted to go to the ice cream parlor that Jimmy Fredrickson and I always went to. But when we got there there was no where to sit - Frogs everywhere! All of them asking for "Croak Messieurs" and eating eclairs. I tried to not make eye contact with any of them but as Jimmy and I tried to leave they blocked the door.

"Geeev us your mo-nay!" the head Frog said. I mumbled "no"

"Zen we will trrreat you like a fly! Your mo-nay now, American Peeg!"

"No!" I protested. So they started attacking me with their tongues - some from completely across the the room. Their tongues were sticky and pulled at my clothes. Ultimately one of them found my pocket and pulled out my money - $5 I earned from mowing Mrs. Culbertson's lawn.

"Croaks pour everyone!" the thief yelled.

I ran away in humiliation and started drinking cough syrup, which led to a life of addictions which I have only recently overcome.

[in Glenn's deepest voice]

From that day ... from that day I swore. I swore I'd exact my revenge.

I have.

83 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:34:24pm

re: #73 SanFranciscoZionist

If he took out the bones, it wouldn't be crunchy, would it?

Thank you, Mr. Whizzo
In the future, it should be called "crunchy raw unboned real dead frog if you want to avoid prosecution"

84 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:35:37pm

re: #75 transient

This would disturb me a lot more if I thought there was even a tiny chance he had really thrown the frogs in.

What makes you think he didn't? There is clearly a splash sound- he threw something into that pot.

85 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:35:41pm

I had frog legs for the first time last month. Interesting... they tasted like chicken.

86 PaxAmericana  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:36:04pm

We have a tag for frogs now? That's kinda cute.

87 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:36:16pm

re: #82 That's Glenn Beck to you

Ok, I haven't updinged you till now. That was pretty good.

88 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:36:49pm

9:15 mark

The last time someone doused a frog in water for the world to see.

89 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:37:10pm

Glenn Beck's Tasty Frog Legs

15 min / 4 min

Ingredients

12 frog legs
2 eggs
1 lemon juice
2 parsley sprigs, chopped
Dried bread crumbs
Salt
Pepper
Oil


Frog Legs recipe (serve 6)

Step 1: Preheat oven at 375 F.

Step 2: Remove frog legs skin. Wash and drain.

Step 3: Add lemon juice, salt and pepper.

Step 4: Beat eggs in a bowl, add chopped parsley.

Step 5: Soak frog legs in the eggs.

Step 6: Crush bread into tiny crumbs.

Step 7: Roll frog legs into crumbs.

Step 8: Add oil in a pan. Fry frog legs in the oven for 3 to 4 minutes.

Wine suggestion: Riesling, Sancerre, dry white wine.

Bon appetit!

90 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:37:41pm

re: #87 Killgore Trout

Ok, I haven't updinged you till now. That was pretty good.

I don't even read that person. Should I make an exception?

91 Simple Voice  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:38:11pm

"...and forget about the frog, because it was fake."

That was Beck's next line.

92 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:38:24pm

re: #84 Sharmuta

What makes you think he didn't? There is clearly a splash sound- he threw something into that pot.

Two words: "Laugh track"

The sound could just as easily have been enqueued into the audio stream.

93 kiwiviv  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:38:28pm

re: #38 SanFranciscoZionist

What, I ask nervously, is the point of boiling a frog?

Only he knows

94 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:38:49pm

I have a special place of hate in my heart for people who abuse animals.

What's next? A beating of a kindergartner who likes Obama? Televised bank robbery? Arson?

Surely we could blend his show with pro wrestling (or even UFC) somehow? Now that would be entertainment.

95 What, me worry?  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:39:07pm

This is one time I'd like to hear from PETA.

96 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:39:11pm

re: #92 bofhell

Two words: "Laugh track"

The sound could just as easily have been enqueued into the audio stream.

Live?

97 gregb  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:39:33pm

It appeals to Beavis and Butthead Frog Baseball humor fans.

I walked into a bookstore today in Irvine. They had a full table of CDs and books with him in that ugly nazi uniform. It was so obnoxious that you couldn't even walk into the store without bumping into it as they had stuck the table literally blocking the entrance door.

98 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:39:55pm

Most of our more partisan Lizards have moved on by now but we've goofed on Olberman and Chris Mathews for years for doing thing much less stupid than this. This is SOP for Beck, he does this nonsense all the time. This is what FOX news has become and this is what gets 2.2 million idiots to march on Washington. You can either tell a joke or you can be a joke, those are the only two options.

99 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:40:13pm

re: #54 Racer X

Or at least lick the toad.

I think he may have been doing that for a while now.

100 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:40:28pm

re: #89 HelloDare

Nice.

101 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:40:36pm

re: #94 Pawn of the Oppressor

I have a special place of hate in my heart for people who abuse animals.

What's next? A beating of a kindergartner who likes Obama? Televised bank robbery? Arson?

Surely we could blend his show with pro wrestling (or even UFC) somehow? Now that would be entertainment.

How about a new video courtesy of Hamas TV?

102 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:40:40pm

re: #96 Sharmuta

Live?

Live yes. Real time no. 8 second delay, and if it was a stunt, I bet they practiced it.

103 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:41:15pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Most of our more partisan Lizards have moved on by now but we've goofed on Olberman and Chris Mathews for years for doing thing much less stupid than this. This is SOP for Beck, he does this nonsense all the time. This is what FOX news has become and this is what gets 2.2 million idiots to march on Washington. You can either tell a joke or you can be a joke, those are the only two options.

That's not true! It was at least 4.4 million!

//

104 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:41:38pm

re: #90 Sharmuta
I enjoyed it. Maybe that's just the Tamiflu and Tylenol 3's talking.

105 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:41:39pm

re: #27 Killgore Trout

Koskidz: A Pictoral History of Racism in the United States: Context is Everything

A bit heavy handed but I can't throw stones from my glass house.

Killgore Trout -

Last time I looked the Calendar, (CE), read 2009. Things JUST MIGHT have improved. Are things perfect? HELL NO! Is it 1939, 1949 or 1959? HELL NO!
Trick is, not to let the Ideal blind you to the BETTER. That blindness encourages STASIS. A "Black" US President? - WHY NOT? - What About Gen. Honore, public coiner of the term "Stuck on Stupid"? Why Not Justice Clarence Thomas who REALLY grew up from "Nothing" - A Gulah Speaker as his first language. "Race"- bottom line, is about as important as the Breed of the Dog you walk. Mine is a Shepherd, my Secretary's is a Pekingese. Those DOGS seem to have better manners towards each other than lots of people - WHY?

-S-

106 transient  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:42:06pm

re: #84 Sharmuta

What makes you think he didn't? There is clearly a splash sound- he threw something into that pot.


I listened again, I don't hear a splash. But either way, easy enough to throw something else in. I guess I don't believe he did it because there is absolutely no reason for him to do it. He dramatized and made his point; actually tossing the frogs in doesn't achieve anything. FOX would have to know they would get even more angry calls and lose sponsors. He's already in "hot water" so to speak, this would only add to it. And if he comes out tomorrow and says "ha ha we didn't really kill any frogs" he makes his enemies look like they overreacted.

107 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:42:25pm

Glenn Beck's show is on in the middle of the afternoon, when children can watch.

That's all I'm going to say about this. It's so irresponsible it makes me nauseous.

108 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:43:03pm

re: #105 Dr. Shalit

Those DOGS seem to have better manners towards each other than lots of people - WHY?

Not sure, maybe the butt sniffing.

109 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:43:12pm

Breaking News Online on Twitter is reporting a tire fire has been set in front of the Libyan Embassy in Englewood, NJ

110 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:43:26pm

Beck: "... Barack Obama has galvanized the country."

Forget the boiling water, Beck should have pretended to throw the frog into a vat of molten zinc.

111 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:43:46pm

re: #97 gregb

It appeals to Beavis and Butthead Frog Baseball humor fans.

The difference being that you knew that Beavis and Butthead were idiots who weren't real. That's what made it funny. I laughed at Beavis and Butthead when I was 15, and I can still laugh at them now when I'm 30, but I don't see them cheerleading marches on D.C. Beck isn't Funny Ha-Ha. He's not even Funny Sad. He's not even French mime tragedy material... He's just some kind of harbinger of the mental apocalypse that may or may not be coming.

112 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:43:54pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Most of our more partisan Lizards have moved on by now but we've goofed on Olberman and Chris Mathews for years for doing thing much less stupid than this. This is SOP for Beck, he does this nonsense all the time. This is what FOX news has become and this is what gets 2.2 million idiots to march on Washington. You can either tell a joke or you can be a joke, those are the only two options.

It wasn't 2.2 million

113 rwmofo  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:44:04pm

That was nothing. This is cruelty to animals.

Maybe James T Kirk can weigh in on this one.

114 brandon13  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:44:29pm

God, I hate Glenn Beck.

115 transient  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:44:32pm

re: #107 Charles

Glenn Beck's show is on in the middle of the afternoon, when children can watch.

That's all I'm going to say about this. It's so irresponsible it makes me nauseous.


You do have a point, although I doubt most kids come home from school and turn on GB.

116 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:44:33pm

re: #78 SanFranciscoZionist

Me too. But my grandfather was not able to explain why this rule didn't apply to flies or mosquitos.

SanFranciscoZionist -

"ONACCOUNTA" - Flies and Mosquitos want to eat a bit - no matter how small - of YOU.

-S-

117 medaura18586  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:44:56pm

re: #90 Sharmuta

I don't even read that person. Should I make an exception?

Oh my God! His post was so funny! I'm cracking up... added to my favorites... From now on I'll ctrl+f his nic on every thread.

118 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:45:01pm

re: #113 rwmofo

That was nothing. This is cruelty to animals.

Maybe James T Kirk can weigh in on this one.

ROFLMAO!

119 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:45:09pm

re: #109 bofhell

Breaking News Online on Twitter is reporting a tire fire has been set in front of the Libyan Embassy in Englewood, NJ

Errata: Not a tire fire, a rubbish fire.

120 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:45:10pm

re: #102 bofhell

Regardless- it was a horrible stunt. I'm an animal lover- not to an extreme, but to even make it look as though he killed an animal for a stupid point is just sick. Sociopathy.

121 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:45:19pm

re: #100 Killgore Trout

Nice.

Yes. I thought the wine saved it from being crass.

122 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:46:08pm

re: #120 Sharmuta

Regardless- it was a horrible stunt. I'm an animal lover- not to an extreme, but to even make it look as though he killed an animal for a stupid point is just sick. Sociopathy.

On that I cannot agree with you more...

123 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:46:15pm

This is Glenn Beck at his wierdest best.

at .29 min you see the frog escapes from his hand
at 1.05 you see him pretend to throw the frog into the water, there is no frog in his hand.

Not positive, but it looks that way, either way, Glenn Beck is a simpering idiot.

124 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:46:26pm

re: #112 Thanos

"We had to count them all · Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall."
/Two old British guys

125 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:46:30pm

re: #78 SanFranciscoZionist

The rule especially does not apply to ticks, IMHO.

126 PatriotLizardoid  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:46:54pm

Back during the Terri Schaivo ordeal on his radio program he did this schtick where he threatened to kill 'bobo' the puppy. He used the outrage he got to point out that people seem to care more about a puppy than a human life.

He's a shock jock. Why are you surprised by his antics?

127 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:47:27pm

re: #107 Charles

Good point. Didn't think about that.

128 metrolibertarian  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:47:30pm

I wonder if tomorrow's episode will include a dogfight.

129 Bacchus's daddy  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:48:34pm

Beck is going after the viewership that buys National Enquirer at the grocery store ( with apologies to the-exception-proves-the-rule instance of their sole pursuit of Johnny Haircut). Big dilemma for Fox- if this ups the ratings, do you hang onto this lunatic because of it?

130 revobob  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:48:34pm

re: #128 metrolibertarian

I wonder if tomorrow's episode will include a dogfight.

"Special Guest- Michael Vick!"
/

131 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:48:45pm

Actually I think Glenn Beck's Crime Spree would make for great "reality" TV. It doesn't have to be real. He could stage a full meltdown and take up a life of highway robbery in the name of... whatever it is he's on about. I'm picturing a weekly episodic show where we follow Glenn's bumbling, raving, half-mad criminal hijinks across the country. Think "Robin Hood" meets "Natural Born Killers" meets "Reno 911" with a dash of "Trailer Park Boys". The show would write itself!

132 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:48:45pm

A friend of mine is in Manhattan, staying at a hotel catty-corner from where Daffy is staying (or maybe Dinnerjacket, for all the difference it makes). His room (my friend's) is on the 23rd floor. And from the 23rd floor he can hear the protestors...

133 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:48:55pm
134 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:49:20pm

I know, I know, you toad me he was crazy...

135 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:49:26pm

The garbage that is Rupert Murdoch.

136 rwmofo  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:49:45pm

re: #128 metrolibertarian

Registered since: Jan 27, 2008 at 6:31 pm
No. of comments posted: 12

What, did you just make parole?

137 wee fury  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:50:02pm

Stupidity -- thy name is Beck.

138 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:50:06pm

Beck, pandering lunatic horse's ass he is, knows no bounds any more. Obviously this was staged, and just a stunt, but the underlying sickness of throwing a cute little green frog from a box in boiling water... Just. Ugh.

I know people do it with lobsters. I know where hamburgers come from. I'm not naive. But this was all for effect, and pretty sick, at that. (Then again, it's as close to a science experiment as a lot of like-minded Beck followers will ever get.)

As a joke it falls flat as piss on a plate. I truly loathe this guy.

As an aside, I hate the blazer and tie with his jeans. I always hated that look. And he has dork jeans on, besides. Ask any woman, those jeans are dorky.

139 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:50:20pm

Tonight:

We are all boiled frogs!

140 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:51:06pm

re: #123 Bagua

This is Glenn Beck at his wierdest best.

at .29 min you see the frog escapes from his hand
at 1.05 you see him pretend to throw the frog into the water, there is no frog in his hand.

Not positive, but it looks that way, either way, Glenn Beck is a simpering idiot.

If he left the frog in for a while, he'd be a simmering idiot

141 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:52:02pm
142 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:52:22pm

re: #140 Kosh's Shadow

If he left the frog in for a while, he'd be a simmering idiot

Everyone would be really steamed over that.

143 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:52:33pm

re: #140 Kosh's Shadow

If he left the frog in for a while, he'd be a simmering idiot

I'm hoping Vick's dogs get a hold of him and he is a simpering idiot.

144 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:52:43pm

(thinking further about a hypothetical crime show with Beck)

The trick would be finding him a comic sidekick. What's Steve Buscemi up to?

I'm thinking "guest" appearances by Ron Paul, and some real Illinois Nazis, and some Klansmen, and that "Flouride is a Communist Plot" guy...

145 rwmofo  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:53:06pm

re: #138 theheat

"As an aside, I hate the blazer and tie with his jeans. I always hated that look. And he has dork jeans on, besides. Ask any woman, those jeans are dorky."

Relax, rational women will have already made a decision before they begin to worry about Beck's jeans.

146 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:53:57pm

re: #145 rwmofo

Okay, then they add insult to injury. He has the butt of a middle-aged secretary.

147 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:54:03pm

re: #144 Pawn of the Oppressor

(thinking further about a hypothetical crime show with Beck)

The trick would be finding him a comic sidekick. What's Steve Buscemi up to?

I'm thinking "guest" appearances by Ron Paul, and some real Illinois Nazis, and some Klansmen, and that "Flouride is a Communist Plot" guy...

Or Paul Reubens (aka Pee Wee Herman)

148 rwmofo  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:54:13pm

re: #142 NJDhockeyfan

Everyone would be really steamed over that.

Don't leap to any conclusions.

149 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:54:19pm

Still no comment on the VDH piece.

150 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:54:34pm

re: #138 theheat

With a big difference, boiling a lobster is cooking, the intent is to eat the critter, not torment it as a prank.

151 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:54:38pm

re: #73 SanFranciscoZionist

Well that's a Monty Python skit; the inspector at the chocolate bon-bon factory.

152 Throbert McGee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:54:41pm

Um, I don't see how this is necessarily worse than that scene in The Jerk where the guy juggles GENUINE FOR-REAL CATS. Or perhaps worse, the scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, where they catapulted an ACTUAL LIVE COW over the walls of a castle, fatally crushing to death an extra who was playing one of Sir Robin's servants.

153 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:56:21pm

re: #147 bofhell

Or Paul Reubens (aka Pee Wee Herman)

And Seth Green. Everything funny on TV needs Seth Green in it somewhere.

Maybe in the first episode Glenn will call himself "The Constitutional Avenger" and storm an ACORN meeting with pantyhose on his head to hide his identity...

154 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:56:24pm

re: #152 Throbert McGee

Um, I don't see how this is necessarily worse than that scene in The Jerk where the guy juggles GENUINE FOR-REAL CATS. Or perhaps worse, the scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, where they catapulted an ACTUAL LIVE COW over the walls of a castle, fatally crushing to death an extra who was playing one of Sir Robin's servants.

At least in Blazing Saddles, Alex Karras tipped over a blatantly fake horse in the final fight scene. [The first one when he came in to town was clearly real and clearly staged.]

Mongo just pawn, in game of life...

155 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:57:04pm

Perhaps tomorrow Beck can bring in two dogs to demonstrate how he thinks we're getting screwed.

156 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:57:07pm
157 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:58:30pm

re: #155 Sharmuta

Perhaps tomorrow Beck can bring in two dogs to demonstrate how he thinks we're getting screwed.

I prefer just one Great Dane and Beck can play the taxpayer.

158 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:58:34pm

re: #115 transient

You do have a point, although I doubt most kids come home from school and turn on GB.

Probably a fair number come home from school and find grandma or Uncle Bob watching it, though.

159 Coracle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:58:42pm

re: #156 taxfreekiller

can others quote you on the 2.2 million number

thanks in advance

No, it's an underestimate by a factor of at least 10. Don't you watch Beck?

160 Throbert McGee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:59:38pm

re: #155 Sharmuta

Perhaps tomorrow Beck can bring in two dogs to demonstrate how he thinks we're getting screwed.

Do knot try this at home!

161 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 7:59:55pm

re: #152 Throbert McGee

Um, I don't see how this is necessarily worse than that scene in The Jerk where the guy juggles GENUINE FOR-REAL CATS. Or perhaps worse, the scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, where they catapulted an ACTUAL LIVE COW over the walls of a castle, fatally crushing to death an extra who was playing one of Sir Robin's servants.

It's the intent really, in your examples there was an intent to entertain and amuse through absurdity, Beck is using this shtick as political commentary expecting to be taken seriously.

But then again... trying to understand the intent of a madman is futile.

162 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:00:07pm
163 Mich-again  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:00:42pm

Here is a picture of a frog from my backyard taken a few weeks back. I'll bet that frog's brain is more developed than Beck's.

164 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:01:00pm

re: #146 theheat

Okay, then they add insult to injury. He has the butt of a middle-aged secretary.

I resent that. My mom's butt is so much better than Beck's that it's not even funny.

/

165 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:01:11pm

re: #155 Sharmuta

Perhaps tomorrow Beck can bring in two dogs to demonstrate how he thinks we're getting screwed.


He just needs one for the "screw the pooch" metaphor.

166 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:01:29pm

re: #152 Throbert McGee

You are joking, right? Those weren't real cats when they actually juggled them (you can tell), and if I recall, the cow in the Holy Grail looked pretty fake. I'll have to find the HG clip, but I think I remember the cow's leg bending in a way no real cow's leg would bend.

167 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:01:40pm

Why this was brilliant! Glenn Beck speaks "truth to power" and fights for the common man!

///Why he sez things that other people on TV ares afraids to tell.

//

168 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:02:01pm
169 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:02:19pm

re: #161 Bagua

It's the intent really, in your examples there was an intent to entertain and amuse through absurdity, Beck is using this shtick as political commentary expecting to be taken seriously.

But then again... trying to understand the intent of a madman is futile.

Not sure about the emboldened section. I don't think he really takes himself seriously and giggles all the way to the bank.

170 Neutral President  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:03:12pm

re: #6 Charles

This could be Beck's final meltdown.

Don't get our hopes up like that.

171 Mich-again  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:03:57pm

re: #165 HelloDare

He just needs one for the "screw the pooch" metaphor.

I had a General Foreman who once used this classic line on a partner of mine at the plant we worked at..

"Son, if your people are doing what it looks like, I want one of the puppies."

172 baier  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:03:59pm

i love his mom jeans...

173 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:04:02pm
174 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:04:19pm

re: #152 Throbert McGee

It was a fake cow, actually a supremely badly done cow taxidermy.

It is hard to tell on you tube.

The funniest scene ever, though.

Feche la vache!

175 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:04:23pm

re: #166 theheat

You are joking, right? Those weren't real cats when they actually juggled them (you can tell), and if I recall, the cow in the Holy Grail looked pretty fake. I'll have to find the HG clip, but I think I remember the cow's leg bending in a way no real cow's leg would bend.

Oh yeah? What about Toonce the cat?
/

176 sngnsgt  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:04:28pm

re: #163 Mich-again

Great pic.

177 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:04:31pm

re: #166 theheat

You are joking, right? Those weren't real cats when they actually juggled them (you can tell), and if I recall, the cow in the Holy Grail looked pretty fake. I'll have to find the HG clip, but I think I remember the cow's leg bending in a way no real cow's leg would bend.

But the cow hadn't even been milked.
(It looked stiff, like a stuffed cow)

178 The Shadow Do  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:04:42pm

This was so stupid. Perfect. Is there any end to stupid? No. Stupid, thy name is Glen Beck.

179 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:04:59pm
180 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:05:12pm

re: #156 taxfreekiller

Knock yourself out.

181 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:05:39pm

The video was, however, ribbetting.

182 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:05:40pm

re: #173 taxfreekiller

Money talks and Beck Walks.

Yeah, nothing like admiring a profit motive.

183 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:06:27pm
184 Neutral President  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:06:31pm

re: #181 Kosh's Shadow

The video was, however, ribbetting.

Up until the frog croaked.

185 baier  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:06:43pm

re: #181 Kosh's Shadow

The video was, however, ribbetting.


iit was long, thought i'd croak before it was over

186 NelsFree  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:06:53pm

Right after the skit with the "frog", Glenn fishes out the fellow with a paper cup and hands the cup to John Bolton, former UN Ambassador. Glenn asks John to verify that IT WAS A RUBBER FROG. John says, 'yep'.
Why does it seem that no one watched that part?

187 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:07:04pm

re: #177 Kosh's Shadow

The one when it landed was a real stuffed dead cow, very poorly done. The one flying over the fence was a model, filmed to looked life-size. Here's the clip.

188 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:07:20pm

re: #179 shifty

Aloha!

189 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:07:40pm
190 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:08:07pm

I'm not sure why I should consider this a stunt and not an actual frog boiling. This is a man who will tell his audience that eugenics is coming to America and in the same breath tell them it's not coming. He thinks Isaiah 2:4 is communist propaganda. Why should I think he has enough of a grasp on reality to realize this frog boil is a bad idea to do with a live frog?

191 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:08:15pm

re: #169 Pianobuff

Not sure about the emboldened section. I don't think he really takes himself seriously and giggles all the way to the bank.

Tend to agree, but then other times he appears serious, making sense out of nonsense is futile. As comedy, Beck fails to amuse, as analysis, Beck fails to make sense, the list goes on.

192 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:08:22pm

re: #189 taxfreekiller

with out profit, little green foot balls blog would have some trouble too

That wasn't my point.

193 baier  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:08:36pm

re: #188 Charles

Mahalo!

194 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:09:03pm

re: #191 Bagua

Tend to agree, but then other times he appears serious, making sense out of nonsense is futile. As comedy, Beck fails to amuse, as analysis, Beck fails to make sense, the list goes on.

Maybe the term "crazy like a fox" applies?

195 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:09:41pm

re: #164 SanFranciscoZionist

My apologies to your mother. I know not all middle-aged secretaries have soggy buffalo butts.

But Beck does.

On a guy, that's really icky.

196 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:09:44pm

Ray Charles version of It's Not Easy Being Green.

197 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:09:46pm

re: #188 Charles

Aloha!

#179 The class of 2004 arrives early in the thread to flounce... over a frog. This is interesting.

198 Coracle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:10:38pm

re: #194 Pianobuff

Maybe the term "crazy like a fox" applies?

More "Like a crazy on Fox".

199 Boot Hill  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:11:06pm

re: #179 shifty

Wow, talk about overreaction.

+1.

He said it was a plastic frog on the air. come on people. You have a beef with Glenn's ideas, have a beef, but don't go looking for stuff that isn't there. That's just ends up making you look worse then his stunts.

200 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:11:14pm

re: #198 Coracle

More "Like a crazy on Fox".

I kinda' left that door wide open, didn't I?

201 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:11:16pm

re: #186 NelsFree

Right after the skit with the "frog", Glenn fishes out the fellow with a paper cup and hands the cup to John Bolton, former UN Ambassador. Glenn asks John to verify that IT WAS A RUBBER FROG. John says, 'yep'.
Why does it seem that no one watched that part?

You mean people actually watch Glenn Beck's show?

202 Mich-again  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:11:26pm

re: #176 sngnsgt

That frog was such a ham for the camera. We have a bunch of them back there but most of them are too jumpy its hard to get a good up-close picture.

203 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:11:32pm

re: #189 taxfreekiller

with out profit, little green foot balls blog would have some trouble too

Without meaning, TFK post's "have some trouble too."

204 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:11:34pm
205 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:11:42pm

re: #181 Kosh's Shadow

The video was, however, ribbetting.

He croaked out there.

206 NelsFree  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:11:46pm

RUBBER FROG!

RUBBER FROG!!

RUBBER!! FROG!!!
/out of breath...

207 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:12:30pm
208 Coracle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:12:38pm

re: #206 NelsFree

Great cheer! What college did you go to?

209 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:13:04pm

OT: Did Moyers do something crazy again? For some reason an antique post on his "in their genes" statement at my blog is getting hits from out of the blue.

210 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:13:14pm

re: #199 Boot Hill

+1.

He said it was a plastic frog on the air. come on people. You have a beef with Glenn's ideas, have a beef, but don't go looking for stuff that isn't there. That's just ends up making you look worse then his stunts.

Good grief, you listen to the simpering idiot Beck?

211 Coracle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:13:24pm

re: #207 taxfreekiller

then there are mean posts,
they too are trouble some say

Yeah, Bagua. Stop being so meeean.

212 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:13:25pm

Hmmph.

Just for the record, that tired old meme about slowly-heated frogs is bullshit. When the temperature gets too hot, they jump out.

When you throw them into boiling water, they have as much chance as a lobster.

Both parts of the meme are bullshit.

Research, Glenn.

And have fun with PETA. You deserve them.

213 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:13:43pm

But how amazingly wonderful is it that the former Secretary of State is reduced to playing a bit part in Glenn Beck's rubber animal stunt?

It's still insanely irresponsible to air something like this at a time when children are watching. Rubber frog or not.

214 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:13:45pm

re: #203 Bagua

I get tfk almost every time.

215 Danny  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:14:34pm

Have any of y'all ever been frog giggin? No?

216 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:14:43pm

re: #214 Ojoe

I get tfk almost every time.

Get what? Is there a salve you can use?

217 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:14:48pm

re: #199 Boot Hill

+1.

He said it was a plastic frog on the air. come on people. You have a beef with Glenn's ideas, have a beef, but don't go looking for stuff that isn't there. That's just ends up making you look worse then his stunts.

So- it was fake, but accurate?

It was an asshole thing to do. He discredits himself with his douchbaggery.

218 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:14:51pm

re: #203 Bagua

I enjoy many of TFK's posts.

219 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:14:55pm

re: #204 taxfreekiller

oh, OK, then what was your dull?

Just that there is nothing to admire based on the ability to make a large profit. Yes, Glenn Beck can draw in money but he is still a reflection of the lowest form of culture.

220 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:15:03pm

re: #193 baier

Mahalo!

Humuhumunukunukuapua'a!

221 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:15:08pm

re: #213 Charles

But how amazingly wonderful is it that the former Secretary of State is reduced to playing a bit part in Glenn Beck's rubber animal stunt?

It's still insanely irresponsible to air something like this at a time when children are watching. Rubber frog or not.

I can see the kids now thinking "I wonder if the frog notices microwaves?"

222 Ojoe  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:15:09pm

re: #216 Bagua

Feh

223 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:15:11pm

re: #212 Cato the Elder

Hmmph.

Just for the record, that tired old meme about slowly-heated frogs is bullshit. When the temperature gets too hot, they jump out.

When you throw them into boiling water, they have as much chance as a lobster.

Both parts of the meme are bullshit.

Research, Glenn.

And have fun with PETA. You deserve them.

My father-in-law goes frogging in the fields of Kauai. All that's needed is a miner's helemet (it's in the middle of the night), a double-strength garbage bag, and a pitchfork, natch.

224 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:15:14pm
225 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:16:09pm

I suggest we send Glenn a few dozen deluxe boxes of "Crunchy Frog" pralines.

226 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:16:10pm

re: #195 theheat

My apologies to your mother. I know not all middle-aged secretaries have soggy buffalo butts.

But Beck does.

On a guy, that's really icky.

:)

227 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:17:05pm

re: #224 taxfreekiller

if you intend real debate,

"Well , no what I was trying to say is, the only good thing about profit is the taxes that can be redistributed from them."

like that, out in the open with it

Never mind.

Carry on.

228 Mich-again  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:17:12pm

re: #213 Charles

Maybe the real analogy is that his viewers are the frogs.

229 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:17:30pm

And the frog was moving when Beck grabbed it from the cage. Is he a sleight-of-hand master as well as an idiot?

230 Throbert McGee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:17:36pm

re: #166 theheat

You are joking, right? Those weren't real cats when they actually juggled them (you can tell), and if I recall, the cow in the Holy Grail looked pretty fake. I'll have to find the HG clip, but I think I remember the cow's leg bending in a way no real cow's leg would bend.

Exactly my point -- just as Beck didn't really throw a live frog into boiling water (unless it was a super-frog that had gained the power to turn invisible at will after being exposed to cosmic rays... in which case, it could probably also project a force-field to protect itself from the boiling water, so no harm done).

231 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:18:17pm

re: #213 Charles

re: #213 Charles

It's still insanely irresponsible to air something like this at a time when children are watching. Rubber frog or not.

I know some children who would have been traumatized had they seen that.

As for Bolton- that's what he gets for hanging with shrieking harpies.

232 philosophus invidius  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:18:27pm

US CODE
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 3 > § 48
§ 48. Depiction of animal cruelty
(a) Creation, Sale, or Possession.— Whoever knowingly creates, sells, or possesses a depiction of animal cruelty with the intention of placing that depiction in interstate or foreign commerce for commercial gain, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.

[Link: www4.law.cornell.edu...]

233 rwmofo  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:18:49pm

re: #229 Cato the Elder

And the frog was moving when Beck grabbed it from the cage. Is he a sleight-of-hand master as well as an idiot?

Watch the video again. There's a cut.

234 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:19:17pm

re: #232 philosophus invidius

Interesting.

235 Danny  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:19:25pm

I bet Penn Jillette taught him that one.

236 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:19:49pm
237 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:20:11pm

re: #236 taxfreekiller

So, the frog deal can be related to blog debate uh?

just saw a hop out of hot water by Gus .000802

John F. Kerry

238 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:20:47pm

re: #229 Cato the Elder

And the frog was moving when Beck grabbed it from the cage. Is he a sleight-of-hand master as well as an idiot?

Chris Angel can bring that frog back to life. I seen him bring back an elephant once.

239 yesandno  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:20:53pm

Still using pre-pubescent humor to try and make his point. Doesn't work for anyone except the choir.

Felt sorry for Bolton. Worse, the interview with Bolton that followed was much more important then the frog boil. The fact that Obama not only tossed Israel under the bus, turns out Obama was driving the bus, went in reverse and rolled over Israel again.

The frog was fake, but the new Israeli policy doesn't look to be very pro-Israel.

240 Throbert McGee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:21:32pm

I'm trying to figure out why Charles chose to send the stalkerblogs an engraved invitation reading, "Dear Friends, Please send a tsunami of mockery in my direction."

241 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:21:41pm

re: #232 philosophus invidius

US CODE
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 3 > § 48
§ 48. Depiction of animal cruelty
(a) Creation, Sale, or Possession.— Whoever knowingly creates, sells, or possesses a depiction of animal cruelty with the intention of placing that depiction in interstate or foreign commerce for commercial gain, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.

[Link: www4.law.cornell.edu...]

Linky no worky for me.

Not Found

The requested URL /uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000048---000-.html was not found on this server.

242 NelsFree  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:21:56pm

re: #201 Charles

Glenn Beck's ratings soar:

[Link: www.newsy.com...]

"FOX News anchor Glenn Beck is under attack by U.S. media outlets and liberals for spreading lies across America. But his ratings are exploding as his audience stands strong."

[Link: www.tvratingz.com...]
Average rating 3.7 on a scale of 1-5

[Link: tvbythenumbers.com...]
"Last night Glenn Beck had over 3 million viewers at 5pm, second only to O’Reilly for the night. But, Beck had more 25-54 viewers than O’Reilly (888K to 876K). I don’t watch or really even care about the cable news wars, but still…wow. Even though Beck airs before primetime, when there are fewer people watching TV, he had the most 25-54 viewers in the cable news world for the night."

Dear Charles,
It appears that many to watch Beck.
Sincerely,
NelsFree

243 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:22:02pm
244 arielle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:22:04pm

Good evening, all

Looks like I missed another thread :( How do people keep up with it all?

When I was a kid, we visiting my uncle in Baltimore, which is known for its crabs. We visited a friend who bought live crabs for crabs and spaghetti (delicious!!) and she had the crabs "race" across the kitchen. Needless to say, winning that race wasn't exactly a prize for the crab. For us as though, it was extremely tasty!

I shouldn't have to say though that we did eat the crab, it wasn't to make some kind of stupid point.

245 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:22:18pm

Imagine making dinner and having to take time out to deal with a child now completely freaked out that Beck cooked a frog. You think the kids thought it was fake?

246 HelloDare  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:22:22pm

If it weren't for Glenn Beck, I wouldn't have stumbled on
DARNA VS. THE GIANT FROG

247 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:22:23pm

re: #213 Charles

But how amazingly wonderful is it that the former Secretary of State is reduced to playing a bit part in Glenn Beck's rubber animal stunt?

It's still insanely irresponsible to air something like this at a time when children are watching. Rubber frog or not.

Good point about Bolton - what the heck was a smart guy like him thinking?
But as far as the TV violence angle goes, I'm not too sure that this lame schtick would even be a blip on most kids' TV violence radar.

248 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:22:44pm

re: #240 Throbert McGee

I'm trying to figure out why Charles chose to send the stalkerblogs an engraved invitation reading, "Dear Friends, Please send a tsunami of mockery in my direction."

Because he's in their heads and really knows how to jack with their buttons.

249 Boot Hill  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:23:36pm

re: #210 Bagua

I'm just amazed that people are getting bent over a plastic frog getting boiled in a bad stunt. debate his ideas, positions, beliefs and assumptions, but saying his ideas, positions, beliefs and assumptions are bad because of stunts like this are not of real value. deal with the issues not the side show. It's a distraction.

250 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:23:43pm

re: #240 Throbert McGee

I'm trying to figure out why you've been such an ass lately.

251 Throbert McGee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:23:51pm

re: #235 Danny

I bet Penn Jillette taught him that one.

No, Penn and Teller would've said, "If it's worth doing at all, IT'S WORTH USING BLOOD SQUIBS."

252 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:24:09pm

re: #240 Throbert McGee

I'm trying to figure out why Charles chose to send the stalkerblogs an engraved invitation reading, "Dear Friends, Please send a tsunami of mockery in my direction."

And I'm trying to figure out how you could possibly argue that Terri Schiavo might have come back to life?

253 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:24:26pm

re: #249 Boot Hill

If beck wants his ideas debated, perhaps he shouldn't upstage them by pulling stupid stunts.

254 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:24:39pm

re: #243 taxfreekiller

So, you select Lt. John F. Kerry on your debate team.

I, tfk , call Sgt. Jerry Michael Shriver from the grave for my team.

go

Dude, I didn't vote for Kerry because of what you in fact talk about. You think you have me pegged but you're far from it. I voted against Kerry because I believe in the likes of Colonel Bud Day.

Check your six.

255 swamprat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:24:44pm

Glenn Beck's frog is a genius!
You just lack the insight to appreciate...

With god as my witness,
I thought boiled frogs could jump.

256 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:24:45pm

re: #250 Sharmuta

I'm trying to figure out why you've been such an ass lately.

Seconded.

257 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:25:28pm
258 rwmofo  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:25:37pm

re: #245 Sharmuta

Imagine making dinner and having to take time out to deal with a child now completely freaked out that Beck cooked a frog. You think the kids thought it was fake?

It doesn't matter if they thought it was fake. What matters is they got a new idea.

259 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:26:02pm

re: #252 Charles

And I'm trying to figure out how you could possibly argue that Terri Schiavo might have come back to life?

Beecuz brains turned to water are more viable than boiled frog?

260 NelsFree  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:26:21pm

re: #213 Charles

John Bolton was not a Secretary of State. He was an Undersecratary of State for Arms Control:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Charles, I hope you are not getting too exercised over this. It was only a rubber frog, after all.

261 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:26:24pm

re: #238 NJDhockeyfan

Chris Angel can bring that frog back to life. I seen him bring back an elephant once.

We have a family friend that my mother swears brought a chicken back from the dead once.

262 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:26:34pm

I can see it now, "Commie Bloggers in Frenzy Over Plastic Frog While Millions of Babies Are Murdered Each Year."

Missing the fact Beck is a sensationalitic ass 24/7 all together, and this is but one of his low rent parlor tricks.

263 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:26:57pm

re: #249 Boot Hill

I'm just amazed that people are getting bent over a plastic frog getting boiled in a bad stunt. debate his ideas, positions, beliefs and assumptions, but saying his ideas, positions, beliefs and assumptions are bad because of stunts like this are not of real value. deal with the issues not the side show. It's a distraction.

No one is "getting bent" we are mocking the idiot, "his ideas, positions, beliefs and assumptions" are those of a fool, this little "bad stunt" just reinforces the observation that Glenn Beck is a clown.

264 funky chicken  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:27:08pm

Beck got caught showing his idiocy when he made the statement that McCain is bad because he's some kind of "weird progressive" like Theodore Roosevelt. John McCain has publicly announced that TR is his hero for years. I really would have believed even Glenn Beck would know that, seeing as how he is some kind of self-proclaimed political expert and all.

I guess he realized what an ass he'd made of himself on CBS and can't figure out how to handle it.

265 swamprat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:27:27pm

re: #240 Throbert McGee

I'm trying to figure out why Charles chose to send the stalkerblogs an engraved invitation reading, "Dear Friends, Please send a tsunami of mockery in my direction."

Ok fella, you'll smoke a turd in hell for that remark.

/Robin Williams: The Survivors

266 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:27:48pm
267 Mich-again  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:28:01pm

In this corner, weighing in at 207 pounds, he's sarcastic, he's bombastic, he punches in bunches and crunches the dunces.. He's crazy like a Fox. Glen Beck!

And in this corner, weighing in at 2 ounces, the frog.

Lets get ready to rumble!

268 Throbert McGee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:28:03pm

re: #245 Sharmuta

Imagine making dinner and having to take time out to deal with a child now completely freaked out that Beck cooked a frog. You think the kids thought it was fake?

"For heaven's sake, won't someone please think of the children?!" is a line from The Simpsons poking fun at the scare tactics of the Religious Right, and not a motto to actually live by, Sharm.

269 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:28:08pm

re: #244 arielle

Crabs and spaghetti? That's just wrong!

270 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:28:08pm

re: #253 Sharmuta

If beck wants his ideas debated, perhaps he shouldn't upstage them by pulling stupid stunts.

I'll go further. Perhaps beck doesn't want his ideas debated because it would show him to be the moron that he is, so perhaps the stupid stunts are intentional as to avoid the real ass handing he'd get were we to discuss his "ideas".

271 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:28:25pm

If frogs were boiled in the public square, would we hear Aslan's batrachian angels singing?

272 arielle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:29:36pm

re: #269 Mad Al-Jaffee

oh trust me. It was de-lish! Homemade pasta and homemade pasta sauce with just boiled crab. One of my most favorite childhood memories.

273 NelsFree  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:29:50pm

re: #253 Sharmuta

If beck wants his ideas debated, perhaps he shouldn't upstage them by pulling stupid stunts.

Sharmuta,
Are you upset because the frogs are green and you are blue? Do I sense a multi-coloral bias here?
/closes hatch, dogs it down

274 Irenicum  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:29:58pm

re: #111 Pawn of the Oppressor

"He's just some kind of harbinger of the mental apocalypse"

OK, I am definitely stealing that phrase!

275 rwmofo  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:30:41pm

re: #271 Cato the Elder

If frogs were boiled in the public square, would we hear Aslan's batrachian angels singing?

I don't know, but I'll be sure to bring my salsa diablo rojo.

276 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:31:05pm
277 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:31:06pm

re: #272 arielle

That's not how we eat them in Maryland. :)

278 NelsFree  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:31:52pm

re: #263 Bagua

ad hominem does not look good on you.

279 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:32:06pm
280 The Shadow Do  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:32:23pm

What is really, really puzzling is why anyone gives a rip about this ignoramus. I don't get it. I just don't in spite of the ratings.

Best guess is that this is the equivelent of a 19th century side show act carrying all the thrill of an adolescent sneaking in to it.

Otherwise, the sheer idiocy of Mr. Beck is unfathionable, to me.

Why does stupid attract so?

281 Randall Gross  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:32:33pm
282 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:33:14pm

re: #278 NelsFree

re: #263 Bagua

ad hominem does not look good on you.

I don't see it.

Do you?

283 arielle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:33:24pm

re: #277 Mad Al-Jaffee

Hey, this was in Maryland, from a woman who has lived in Bal'more her whole life and lives in one of those cute row houses. We are actually visiting Baltimore in the next couple of weeks and can't wait to visit my uncle's favorite crab place. Crab + mallet + bucket = good times!!

284 Bacchus's daddy  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:33:29pm

re: #262 theheat

I can see it now, "Commie Bloggers in Frenzy Over Plastic Frog While Millions of Babies Are Murdered Each Year."

Missing the fact Beck is a sensationalitic ass 24/7 all together, and this is but one of his low rent parlor tricks.

Beck's convulsive "the sky is falling" routine is discredited by this: - the-sky-may-be-falling- - but-I-still-can-afford-to-use-my-airtime-to-perform-a-tasteless-juvenile-horrendous-example-stunt-that-just-maybe-illustrates-the-point-I'm-trying-to-make-in-the-obliquest-of-fashions

285 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:34:31pm

re: #268 Throbert McGee

Have you ever had to deal with a 3 year old freaking out about animal cruelty? I might not have thought about it were it not for the fact I've seen it. She damn near became a vegetarian because she couldn't handle Thanksgiving.

286 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:34:37pm

US complains to Russia about sex tape ’smear’

WASHINGTON — The U.S. Embassy in Moscow has complained to the Russian Foreign Ministry about a sex tape that U.S. officials call a smear of an American diplomat.

The State Department is calling the video that appeared on a Russian Web site a fabricated montage that includes some real footage of Kyle Hatcher, a married diplomatic liaison to Russian religious and human rights groups.

“Mr. Hatcher has been the subject of a smear campaign in the Russian press and on the Internet to discredit him and his work,” said State Department spokesman Ian Kelly. “We deplore this type of smear campaign.”

The video shows Hatcher making telephone calls on a darkened street. Then it cuts to a hotel room, where Hatcher can be seen in a hotel room, apparently from a hidden camera. Later, the video appears to show a man and a woman having sex in the same room with the lights off. It is not clear that man is Hatcher.

In an interview recorded with ABC News, U.S. Ambassador to Russia John Beyrle blamed the Russian government.

“Clearly the video we saw was a montage of lot of different clips, some of them which are clearly fabricated,” he said. “We had our security office back in Washington take a look at that and they are convinced Kyle has done nothing wrong. I have full confidence in him and he is going to continue his work here at the embassy.”

287 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:34:57pm

re: #270 Sharmuta

I'll go further. Perhaps beck doesn't want his ideas debated because it would show him to be the moron that he is, so perhaps the stupid stunts are intentional as to avoid the real ass handing he'd get were we to discuss his "ideas".

I think Beck does this stuff just to get people gasping, so people who don't watch his show and hear about his stunts think that they better not miss what is going on.

It's what shock jocks do anyway, and that's the niche I most closely identify with Beck.

Even at his current viewership levels we're talking less than 1% of the population watching him on any given day. Doing something outrageous to pick up 10K viewers here, 20K viewers here. There's plenty of candidates who, if they feeling like they are missing something, will turn him on.

The more shock and outrage, the more viewers. It's the Howard Stern business model.

288 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:35:02pm

re: #278 NelsFree

re: #263 Bagua

ad hominem does not look good on you.

It is not "ad hominem" to observe that Glenn Beck is a clown, it is an observation.

289 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:35:21pm

re: #283 arielle

Crab + mallet + bucket = good times!!

You forgot the beer, corn on the cob and a little vinegar for dipping. Plus some extra Old Bay seasoning.

290 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:35:29pm

re: #284 Bacchus's daddy

Subtle. I like it. I'm going with that.

291 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:35:36pm

re: #273 NelsFree

This comment is completely stupid.

292 Danny  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:35:37pm

There are parents who actually let their kids watch Glenn Beck??

293 Danny  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:36:26pm

And the kids actually sit there??

294 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:36:38pm

re: #292 Danny

Probably the same ones whose kids hold up signs like "Montana Road Kill" featured a few days ago.

295 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:36:57pm

why the hell does beck insist on wearing jeans with a blazer and tie

296 Danny  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:37:15pm

re: #295 spacejesus

re: #295 spacejesus

He's just a rodeo clown.

297 arielle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:37:40pm

re: #289 Mad Al-Jaffee

Old Bay! We always use McCormick :)

298 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:38:02pm

re: #292 Danny

There are parents who actually let their kids watch Glenn Beck??

As a matter of fact.

299 Throbert McGee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:38:08pm

re: #291 Sharmuta

This comment is completely stupid.

Why are you being such an ass, Sharmuta?

300 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:38:09pm

re: #230 Throbert McGee

Exactly my point -- just as Beck didn't really throw a live frog into boiling water (unless it was a super-frog that had gained the power to turn invisible at will after being exposed to cosmic rays... in which case, it could probably also project a force-field to protect itself from the boiling water, so no harm done).


NO, after being thrown in boiling water it will become a giant frogzilla and attack Tokyo.
/do I need to?

301 NelsFree  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:38:19pm

re: #285 Sharmuta

Have you ever had to deal with a 3 year old freaking out about animal cruelty? I might not have thought about it were it not for the fact I've seen it. She damn near became a vegetarian because she couldn't handle Thanksgiving.


Could her behavior have been inspired by the ultra-left caregivers at her preschool? I frankly cannot remember anything of when I was three, and I certainly was not concluding global concepts about animal cruelty then.

302 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:38:24pm
303 wee fury  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:38:32pm

re: #295 spacejesus

He has no sense . . . of fashion.

304 yesandno  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:38:42pm

re: #264 funky chicken

Beck got caught showing his idiocy when he made the statement that McCain is bad because he's some kind of "weird progressive" like Theodore Roosevelt. John McCain has publicly announced that TR is his hero for years. I really would have believed even Glenn Beck would know that, seeing as how he is some kind of self-proclaimed political expert and all.

I guess he realized what an ass he'd made of himself on CBS and can't figure out how to handle it.

He does know that TR is hero to McCain. He also knows that TR was a Progressive and doesn't care for TR as a result of that position. His comment re McCain is that given the effectiveness of getting legislation passed, McCain loves to cross the aisle and would find a way of giving a Republican spin to many far left agendas in proposed legislation that would become law.

You have to know that McCain would give cover to a lot of the more liberal Republicans as former Pres. Bush did. One of the big fears is that McCain and his gang of 7 Repubs would make a health care proposal that would attemtp to reconcile both sides resulting in some form of legislation being passed with Repub. support...which is what the left wants. They can pass it without a single Rep. They want cover. And often, people like McCain who want to appear to be uniters, give cover...Campaign Finance is an example.

McCain is not a pure Conservative. And that is the point he was attempting to make. Because of that, it is better to have Obama who actually polarizes people so that less legislation can get passed. Makes sense if you don't like a leftist agenda at all.

305 Charles Johnson  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:38:52pm

Oh brother. Here we go again.

306 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:39:21pm

re: #295 spacejesus

See previous. It's a fashion faux pas. A travesty. Also an effective form of birth control.

307 hc4bo  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:39:33pm

Nothing came out of his hands ...


What a chicken ...

Afraid to mess with PETA ... !

308 funky chicken  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:39:51pm

re: #270 Sharmuta

I'll go further. Perhaps beck doesn't want his ideas debated because it would show him to be the moron that he is, so perhaps the stupid stunts are intentional as to avoid the real ass handing he'd get were we to discuss his "ideas".

Yeah, like I said in 264. Beck went on CBS News and announced for all the world to hear that he believes that Theodore Roosevelt was some kind of "weird progressive."

You really can't do much more to paint a gigantic "IDIOT BIRCHER" sign on yourself than he did.

Of course, most of his fans don't know a damn thing about TR, so he won't lose any ratings points, I guess. I hope Fox News enjoys attracting the howling Bircher/Paultard mob.

309 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:39:59pm

re: #293 Danny

And the kids actually sit there??

Kid's enjoy watching Bozo the Clown and Captain Kangaroo, they would likely find Glenn Beck amusing as well.

310 swamprat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:40:13pm

re: #193 baier

Mahalo!

Mahalo back at cha.

311 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:40:22pm

re: #297 arielle

Old Bay! We always use McCormick :)

I think Old Bay is made by McCormick. Wye River is also great, and some crab houses have their own homemade blend.

312 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:40:23pm

re: #272 arielle

oh trust me. It was de-lish! Homemade pasta and homemade pasta sauce with just boiled crab. One of my most favorite childhood memories.

Setting aside the whole prohibited-animal-lives-in-water-doesn't-have-fins-and-scales thing...

There's a problem with any mean that requires more calories to consume then are gained in the consumption.

313 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:40:48pm

re: #303 wee fury

He has no sense . . . of fashion.

I wonder if it's his way of saying either,

"hey look, I'm half professional, half average joe!"

or, "hey I'm missing half a chromosome!"

314 arielle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:40:55pm

re: #311 Mad Al-Jaffee

Oh, I didn't know that! See, you learn something new everyday.

315 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:41:24pm

re: #313 spacejesus

Business on top, party on the bottom.

316 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:41:38pm

re: #299 Throbert McGee

I'm not being an ass. It's stupid for anyone to think I'm actually a blue mythical creature and to think I'd harbor resentment against frogs for it.

317 Pianobuff  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:41:39pm

re: #308 funky chicken

Yeah, like I said in 264. Beck went on CBS News and announced for all the world to hear that he believes that Theodore Roosevelt was some kind of "weird progressive."

You really can't do much more to paint a gigantic "IDIOT BIRCHER" sign on yourself than he did.

Of course, most of his fans don't know a damn thing about TR, so he won't lose any ratings points, I guess. I hope Fox News enjoys attracting the howling Bircher/Paultard mob.

Is it just me, or did Couric actually look like she was grooving on Beck at times?

318 NelsFree  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:41:39pm

re: #291 Sharmuta

This comment is completely stupid funny.


FIFY, Heh.
Sharm, lighten up. I love it when you twirl. Could you...?

319 SpaceJesus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:41:47pm

re: #306 theheat

See previous. It's a fashion faux pas. A travesty. Also an effective form of birth control.

ah, i missed that one. i had no idea jeans + blazer was ever a look

320 dentate  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:41:50pm

It's almost time for Yom Kippur.

Perhaps someday G-d will ask all the frogs I pithed in high school biology and the rats I killed in neuroscience labs to come back and sit in judgment on me (I can't bring myself to do such things anymore; I can't swat flies without feeling guilty. I have seen too much death to view it casually). I might at least be able to tell them that I thought I was benefiting my own human species in some way, and hope for forgiveness.

What will Glenn Beck say to this frog??

321 arielle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:41:57pm

re: #312 bofhell

I'm a bad Jew, what can I say, crab is very tasty. But you are right, you are working for your dinner here.

322 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:41:59pm

re: #289 Mad Al-Jaffee

You forgot the beer, corn on the cob and a little vinegar for dipping. Plus some extra Old Bay seasoning.

I've always found it ironic that Old Bay is kosher. It's great on fries!

323 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:42:08pm

re: #312 bofhell

Setting aside the whole prohibited-animal-lives-in-water-doesn't-have-fins -and-scales thing...

There's a problem with any mean that requires more calories to consume then are gained in the consumption.

That's why beer is necessary.

324 Salamantis  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:42:32pm

Charles, here's the US-Russia quid pro quo - abandoning the missile defence system for Russian support of more UN sanctions against Iran - that I pedicted a few days ago:

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

325 arielle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:43:23pm

re: #316 Sharmuta

Sharmuta, you're not THE smurfette???

///

326 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:43:33pm

re: #312 bofhell

Setting aside the whole prohibited-animal-lives-in-water-doesn't-have-fins -and-scales thing...

There's a problem with any mean that requires more calories to consume then are gained in the consumption.

Meal. Not mean... Duh

327 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:43:54pm

re: #322 bofhell

I've always found it ironic that Old Bay is kosher. It's great on fries!

It has lots of uses. People use it in spice rubs, for fried chicken, all kinds of recipes.

328 The Shadow Do  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:44:04pm

re: #304 yesandno

Purge the RINO infidels!

329 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:44:10pm

re: #299 Throbert McGee

Why are you being such an ass, Sharmuta?

Why are you such an asshole?

330 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:44:11pm

re: #319 spacejesus

"He looks like someone Crockett and Tubbs would shoot" - Kickin' It Old Skool

331 bofhell  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:44:37pm

re: #321 arielle

I'm a bad Jew, what can I say, crab is very tasty. But you are right, you are working for your dinner here.

Talk to G-d about it on Monday. Tis the season ya know. (Viz a viz the seasoning, which is not in question.)

332 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:45:16pm

re: #301 NelsFree

Could her behavior have been inspired by the ultra-left caregivers at her preschool? I frankly cannot remember anything of when I was three, and I certainly was not concluding global concepts about animal cruelty then.

Lots of small kids get upset about cruelty to animals.

333 Killgore Trout  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:45:22pm

re: #281 Thanos

Nice.

334 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:45:30pm

re: #309 Bagua

Kid's enjoy watching Bozo the Clown and Captain Kangaroo, they would likely find Glenn Beck amusing as well.

Mommy, do we HAVE to watch the food network AGAIN?

335 Pythagoras  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:45:41pm

I don't get it. Why is this backwards pearl of wisdom popular? A frog would die instantly if tossed into boiling water but would jump out at about 100 degrees if the temp is slowly rising.

336 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:45:52pm

re: #318 NelsFree

No- you give me the creeps.

337 funky chicken  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:46:28pm

re: #332 SanFranciscoZionist

Lots of small kids get upset about cruelty to animals.

The sane ones do, in my experience.

338 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:47:15pm

re: #337 funky chicken

Animal cruelty never bothered Jeffrey Dahmer.

Ooops.

339 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:47:32pm

re: #335 Pythagoras

" backwards pearl of wisdom "
Please, may I steal that?

340 funky chicken  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:48:01pm

re: #317 Pianobuff

Is it just me, or did Couric actually look like she was grooving on Beck at times?

My guess? She had trouble containing her glee that this moron has become a leader for so many in the GOP.

341 arielle  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:48:23pm

re: #331 bofhell

Yes, I'll be praying for all my sins on Monday. Now that I have a little girl, I've actually been a more active Jew than I have been in years, but I guess that's normal.

342 SteveC  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:49:26pm

re: #308 funky chicken

Yeah, like I said in 264. Beck went on CBS News and announced for all the world to hear that he believes that Theodore Roosevelt was some kind of "weird progressive."

There's a quote about Beck in this week's Time Magazine by Stephen King. He says Beck is "Satan's undisciplined little brother." (That's taken from memory, it may not be an exact quote.)

343 Pythagoras  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:50:19pm

re: #339 Floral Giraffe

" backwards pearl of wisdom "
Please, may I steal that?

Sure. Here's a few more free ones:

"We need to get all our ducks marching on the same page of music."

"We'll never get that Pandora's can of worms back in the bottle."

344 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:51:25pm

re: #288 Bagua

It is not "ad hominem" to observe that Glenn Beck is a clown, it is an observation.

Not only that, Beck has famously described himself as a 'rodeo clown'. So not only is not ad hominem (because it's true observation) -- it happens to be an epithet the subject has happily applied to himself.

Some people do not understand what 'ad hominem' means, just as some do not understand what a strawman argument is. They apply these terms to mean "using a term that's mean" and "I want to ignore your argument and dismiss it as fallacious, but I have no idea what, if any, fallacy you might be committing."

345 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:52:26pm

re: #343 Pythagoras

Very funny! Thanks!

346 NelsFree  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:54:24pm

re: #308 funky chicken

Of course, most of his fans don't know a damn thing about TR, so he won't lose any ratings points, I guess. I hope Fox News enjoys attracting the howling Bircher/Paultard mob.

[Link: www.biography.com...]

Teddy was one of the first Progressives.

347 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:54:42pm

re: #344 iceweasel

Coulrophobia: Coulrophobia is abnormal or exaggerated fear of clowns.

I've had this thing about clowns for a long time. May have something to do with the works of Goya.

348 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:55:21pm

re: #347 theheat

Or John Wayne Gacy.

349 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:55:28pm

re: #301 NelsFree

Could her behavior have been inspired by the ultra-left caregivers at her preschool? I frankly cannot remember anything of when I was three, and I certainly was not concluding global concepts about animal cruelty then.

Uh, no. It's very common for small children to be upset at displays of animal cruelty or animal death. This is one reason why people lie to them and say Rover is now living on a farm with some nice people.

350 NelsFree  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:55:41pm

re: #317 Pianobuff

Is it just me, or did Couric actually look like she was grooving on Beck at times?

Beck said something about going ice skating with her. Think Dorothy Hammil without the skill...

351 SteveC  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:55:56pm

re: #343 Pythagoras

Sure. Here's a few more free ones:

"We need to get all our ducks marching on the same page of music."

"We'll never get that Pandora's can of worms back in the bottle."

Dan Ratherisms (most from the 2000 election)

"This race is shakier than cafeteria Jell-o."

"He swept through the South like a tornado through a trailer park."

"If a frog had side pockets, he'd carry a hand gun."

"This race is tight like a too-small bathing suit on a too-long ride home from the beach."

"Al Gore has his back to the wall, shirt tails on fire with this race in Florida."

"Florida is the whole deal, the real deal, a big deal."

"Frankly we don't know whether to wind the watch or to bark at the moon."

352 Pythagoras  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:57:01pm

re: #345 Floral Giraffe

Some more that are not my own:

"He's trying to gain a foothold in the public eye" -- Norm Crosby

"It was so cold last night I had to throw another blanket on the fire."

353 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:57:15pm

re: #347 theheat

Coulrophobia: Coulrophobia is abnormal or exaggerated fear of clowns.

I've had this thing about clowns for a long time. May have something to do with the works of Goya.

Reminds me of my favourite Deep Thought from Jack Handy:

I've always been afraid of clowns. I'm not sure why.

Maybe it goes back to that time I was at the circus when I was three, and a clown killed my dad.

354 Salamantis  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:57:31pm

re: #347 theheat

Coulrophobia: Coulrophobia is abnormal or exaggerated fear of clowns.

I've had this thing about clowns for a long time. May have something to do with the works of Goya.

This poem is for you, theheat:

Evil Clown

He wears those flappy floppy shoes
And those billowy bright clothes
And a big red ball like Rudolph’s
Perched on the tip of his nose
He sports those huge and shiny teeth
Which resemble piano keys
And a massive string of handkerchiefs
To catch his clowny sneeze
He wears a bulky jacket
Filled with all kinds of tricks
Which he whips out with his fat white hands
As he plays his clowny shtick
He has a flower tucked into
His much too wide lapel
If you get too close to smell it
He’ll drench you all to hell
And he wears a buzzer in his palm
That shocks you when you shake
And a bucket of confetti
That over your head he’ll rake
He drives around in his weird little car
With his loud brass honky horn
And is always either smiling
Or else comically forlorn
He has that frizzy hair that floats
Around his balding head
With his whole face hued fish belly white
He looks more than faintly dead
Under piles of pancake makeup
Caked from forehead down to throat
And all his features are painted on
In suffocating coats
You can never tell what he’s thinking
Or exactly what he’ll do
But if you do it with him
The joke will be on you
If you chance to meet him
Beware what he’s about
For Clowny just might getcha
Ifnya don’t watch out
The chap is vaguely sinister
With his creepy clowny grin
And those beady little clowny eyes
That threaten to suck you in
He's positively eerie
Some have dreaded to behold
His spooky painted visage
Since they were two years old
Some kids from the beginning
See him as a Boogey Man
And who’s to say that they’re not right
If he’s more than their dreams can stand?
Hollywood knows he’s chilling
It doesn’t surprise a bit
That when Stephen King needed a monster
He made an evil clown IT
Some people think it’s spacey
That other folks fear clowns
But remember John Wayne Gacy:
Guard up, and comments down!

355 funky chicken  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:58:06pm

That Theodore Roosevelt...what a disgrace and a "weird progressive."

1912: Writes "Conservation of Womanhood and Childhood", the precursor for national legislation protecting women's labor rights and proscribing child labor

[Link: www.theodore-roosevelt.com...]

I really do encorage folks who don't know much about the man to read that whole page. Explore some of the links, especially about the Food and Drug Act.

And realize that the Paultards hate the FDA.

crazy, crazy folks.

356 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 8:59:49pm

re: #354 Salamantis

Oh, thanks. I'm sufficiently creeped out now.

I've watched horror movies since I was old enough to remember without ill effect, but clowns creep me the hell out. It's only fitting Beck identifies with them.

357 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:00:24pm

re: #343 Pythagoras

I'm curious as to why you've been dinging up people making nasty comments about me.

358 NelsFree  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:01:20pm

Well, time to retire. I have enough life points left for the Three Affectations:
Sharmuta: well, color me glad!
Iceweasal: thank you for informing me what I was thinking when I was three.
Bagua: slight tap on the forehead with a clue-by-four. Why? I dunno, it just feels right.

G'nite all.

359 yesandno  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:01:26pm

re: #340 funky chicken

My guess? She had trouble containing her glee that this moron has become a leader for so many in the GOP.

Look...I know too many here think I am an idiot because I pay attention to Beck. You have to keep an eye on him because he is pushing so much of the discussion...good, bad, or indifferent. But Beck isn't a leader for the GOP. He is a libertarian for the most part and he is drawing a lot of support from Conservatives who feel that the GOP is no longer their party, is just as elitist as the other half of the government, who have put personal self interest ahead of helping people.

Katie might think he represents the GOP. He doesn't. He represents a lot of people who feel disenfranchized. Many are on the fringes. Many are not. We might not agree with him, but his effect is enormous. A lot of time here is spent on thread after thread about Glenn. Which means he isn't being ignored...and as they say, any news is good news.

He presents his case like a child with juvenile humor. He questions like a child. And like a child, one and a while he asks the right questions.

I am still waiting for the person who is running for office that represents all of us who want to once again believe our elected officials are public servants who look out for our interests. Dem, GOP, or whatever. Party isn't important.

360 funky chicken  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:01:39pm

Well, I'm off for the night. Somebody please explalin to NelsFree that Progressive meant something good in 1904. It's not TRs fault that modern leftists adopted the label.

eyeroll

361 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:04:03pm

re: #359 yesandno

He presents his case like a child with juvenile humor. He questions like a child. And like a child, one and a while he asks the right questions.

What. The. Fuck.

Do you have any idea the kind of hooligans this "child" runs with?

362 Throbert McGee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:04:38pm

re: #250 Sharmuta

I'm trying to figure out why you've been such an ass lately.

I hope that by "lately" you only mean "as recently as the Lila Rose thread," because I don't think that I've been especially abrasive before that. At least, not since years ago.

But anyway, to give you and Charles a serious answer -- I trust both of you enough, both as Net-friends and as intellects, to expect that you'll forgive me for being brusque once in a while. But having said that, I want to apologize for having been rude to Charles publicly, when I could've said it by email, instead.

363 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:06:01pm

re: #358 NelsFree

Well, time to retire. I have enough life points left for the Three Affectations:
Sharmuta: well, color me glad!
Iceweasal: thank you for informing me what I was thinking when I was three.
Bagua: slight tap on the forehead with a clue-by-four. Why? I dunno, it just feels right.

G'nite all.

Who the hell was informing you what you were thinking when you were three? It's not my fault if you were manifestly different from most other 3 year olds.

364 funky chicken  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:07:19pm

re: #239 yesandno

Still using pre-pubescent humor to try and make his point. Doesn't work for anyone except the choir.

Felt sorry for Bolton. Worse, the interview with Bolton that followed was much more important then the frog boil. The fact that Obama not only tossed Israel under the bus, turns out Obama was driving the bus, went in reverse and rolled over Israel again.

The frog was fake, but the new Israeli policy doesn't look to be very pro-Israel.

But, Beck sez John McCain wuld haz bin worser.

The guy is a drooling moron, and I have to wonder how serious people can stand to be on his show.

365 Throbert McGee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:07:32pm

re: #316 Sharmuta

I'm not being an ass. It's stupid for anyone to think I'm actually a blue mythical creature and to think I'd harbor resentment against frogs for it.

I thought it was a moderately funny J-O-K-E.

366 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:08:06pm

re: #363 iceweasel

Who the hell was informing you what you were thinking when you were three? It's not my fault if you were manifestly different from most other 3 year olds.

Future flouncer for sure.

367 Pythagoras  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:09:05pm

re: #357 Sharmuta

Not sure. I sometimes upding a -1 that I think is unfair. However, I thought the blue/green race thing was totally silly and kinda funny (if that's relevant). I was kinda surprised that it wasn't just laughed at. Maybe there's a history I don't know.

368 Salamantis  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:09:28pm

re: #356 theheat

Oh, thanks. I'm sufficiently creeped out now.

I've watched horror movies since I was old enough to remember without ill effect, but clowns creep me the hell out. It's only fitting Beck identifies with them.

A woman on another list once mentioned that she was severely clownophobic, so I wrote that poem and posted it to the list for her.

She told me that it was a very good poem, and that she would never read it again.

heh.

369 yesandno  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:11:06pm

re: #361 theheat

What. The. Fuck.

Do you have any idea the kind of hooligans this "child" runs with?

Yes...I have read about it. Much of it here. I don't think he "runs" as much as is ignorant. No excuses for ignorance.

Yet people pay attention to him...and so he is hard to ignore. You pay attention to him even if you dislike what you know. That is the only point I wish to make.

370 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:11:33pm

re: #364 funky chicken

But, Beck sez John McCain wuld haz bin worser.

The guy is a drooling moron, and I have to wonder how serious people can stand to be on his show.

Agreed, just to be kind one wonders if some of them just never watch his show and are like those interviewed by Ali G?

371 Throbert McGee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:12:46pm

re: #316 Sharmuta

I'm not being an ass. It's stupid for anyone to think I'm actually a blue mythical creature and to think I'd harbor resentment against frogs for it.

I will bet you a jar of gumdrops that NelsFree didn't actually believe any such thing, Amelia Bedelia.

372 BARACK THE VOTE  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:14:35pm

re: #366 Gus 802

Future flouncer for sure.

Wonder if he has his 2.0 name picked out yet.

373 theheat  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:15:15pm

re: #369 yesandno

It's not ignorance, it's choice. He chooses who he associates with. That's far worse than ignorance.

374 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:16:32pm

re: #372 iceweasel

Wonder if he has his 2.0 name picked out yet.

I think it might be something like Nelsfree.

The other one will be Amelia Bedelia.

375 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:16:43pm

re: #373 theheat

It's not ignorance, it's choice. He chooses who he associates with. That's far worse than ignorance.

Agreed.

376 Pythagoras  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:19:46pm

re: #374 Gus 802

I think it might be something like Nelsfree.

The other one will be Amelia Bedelia.

Amelia Bedelia would be an awesome screen name. Does anyone have that (or Emily Latella)?

377 Cato the Elder  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:19:50pm

By the way, the Crunchy Frogs we're going to send Beck come from Iraq. He should like that.

378 yesandno  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:20:38pm

re: #364 funky chicken

But, Beck sez John McCain wuld haz bin worser.

The guy is a drooling moron, and I have to wonder how serious people can stand to be on his show.

re: #373 theheat

It's not ignorance, it's choice. He chooses who he associates with. That's far worse than ignorance.

You make a valid point.

379 Throbert McGee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:22:49pm

re: #285 Sharmuta

Have you ever had to deal with a 3 year old freaking out about animal cruelty? I might not have thought about it were it not for the fact I've seen it. She damn near became a vegetarian because she couldn't handle Thanksgiving.

Nope, haven't had to deal with it, so I'd defer to you on that. And the fact that Beck's show airs in the afternoon when kids might be watching is, I concede, the strongest argument to be made against his "boiling a rubber frog" stunt.

380 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:23:29pm

re: #378 yesandno

You make a valid point.


Simply put, there is no need to spin and make excuses for Beck, he is what he is.

381 yesandno  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:24:28pm

my #378 was in response to #373 not to #364.

I was going to respond to #364, but actually had already dealt with that before hit was posted and I forgot to cut it from the post before sending it through.

Should have checked more carefully...sorry

382 Throbert McGee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:26:46pm

re: #357 Sharmuta

I'm curious as to why you've been dinging up people making nasty comments about me.

Honestly, why on earth would you care?

383 Throbert McGee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:27:38pm

re: #374 Gus 802

I think it might be something like Nelsfree.

The other one will be Amelia Bedelia.

Wait, who's the other one?

384 Gus  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:32:00pm

re: #383 Throbert McGee

Wait, who's the other one?

Backstabber.

385 Throbert McGee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:41:21pm

re: #384 Gus 802

Backstabber.

Beg your pardon?

386 Egregious Philbin  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:41:55pm

If people can't watch Beck and realize that he is a showman who will say and do ANYTHING for ratings, then you deserve to be duped.

That being said, Beck is not a good person, Salon nailed him pretty well on his life as a wacky Morning Zoo DJ in the 90's.

387 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:41:57pm

re: #362 Throbert McGee

I hope that by "lately" you only mean "as recently as the Lila Rose thread," because I don't think that I've been especially abrasive before that. At least, not since years ago.

But anyway, to give you and Charles a serious answer -- I trust both of you enough, both as Net-friends and as intellects, to expect that you'll forgive me for being brusque once in a while. But having said that, I want to apologize for having been rude to Charles publicly, when I could've said it by email, instead.

You've always struck me as one who had respect for Charles, so to see you get very rude with him is startling. He's well aware I don't always agree with him, but I never stoop to rudeness when I express these contrary views.

It really bothered me the other day to see you up ding a person saying I mindlessly down ding people. I don't do that, and it upset me you would think I do. There's always a reason for my dings, and this "mindless ding" crap is just that- crap.

These things together just make me wonder what's up with you, because it's not like you at all.

388 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 9:43:06pm

re: #367 Pythagoras

Not sure. I sometimes upding a -1 that I think is unfair. However, I thought the blue/green race thing was totally silly and kinda funny (if that's relevant). I was kinda surprised that it wasn't just laughed at. Maybe there's a history I don't know.

Yeah- the guy is a bit creepy with some of the women at this site.

389 Boris Badenov  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 10:01:40pm

This so funny. You people get worked up over boiling frog? How many cooking shows you watch with crab or lobster get boiled, mmm is good, yes, the lobster with the melted butter. Don't you like frog legs too, yes, they are good, taste like tenderest chicken. Boris likes the crab, the lobster, the frog legs, yes, all very good after hard day spying and sabotaging for Fearless Leader.

390 Throbert McGee  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 10:03:12pm

re: #387 Sharmuta

It really bothered me the other day to see you up ding a person saying I mindlessly down ding people. I don't do that, and it upset me you would think I do. There's always a reason for my dings, and this "mindless ding" crap is just that- crap.

Well, I accept that, Sharm, but from my POV -- if you downding without a follow-up comment explaining the downding, it's liable to come across as "mindless." I'm not saying that EVERY downding has to have an explanatory comment, because I certainly don't explain every time, but I try to remind myself that, in principle, I should be prepared to justify each and every downding should someone ask me.

And I don't mean to accuse you or anyone else of being more guilty of this than I am -- I just mean that generally, downdinging without an explanation is not the ideal practice.

391 Bagua  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 10:05:54pm

re: #389 Boris Badenov

It wasn't a "cooking show" and the mood is more mocking Beck the clown, not
getting "worked up."

392 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 10:10:24pm

re: #390 Throbert McGee

Well- I'm pretty good, imo, at letting people know why I think they're wrong. Other times, it seems obvious to me what's wrong with the comment. Sometimes I don't explain why I downding because the comment in question was insulting, and replying to it opens the potential for a flame war, which isn't welcome. Some people have made a big deal about ding criteria, and I refuse to play that game as well. I have my reasons for up dinging and down dinging, and I don't think I need to justify each ding to anyone except our host. If someone questions me on why I downdinged them, I almost always reply unless I didn't see them ask.

393 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 10:15:20pm

re: #392 Sharmuta

I mean, really- Throbert. The last thing people say about me is I keep my opinion to myself.

394 Pythagoras  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 11:11:26pm

re: #388 Sharmuta

OK, I suppose, but I don't actually remember who it was I updinged. I'm only part-time here so I'm out of the loop on most of the personality issues.

I do wish there were only "kudos" votes and no down-dings. Like, what's the point? So, I tend to upding negative numbers unless they are being uncivil.

395 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 11:14:04pm

re: #394 Pythagoras

And you didn't think calling another person mindless was uncivil?

396 Pythagoras  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 11:18:42pm

re: #395 Sharmuta

And you didn't think calling another person mindless was uncivil?

OK, you gotta help me out. Which one did I upding?

397 [deleted]  Wed, Sep 23, 2009 11:49:29pm
398 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 12:00:04am

re: #82 That's Glenn Beck to you

I want to apologize to you. I wasn't very nice earlier- I was cranky and shouldn't have posted what I did. That was very rude of me, and I hope you'll accept my apology.

399 Mauser  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 12:01:27am

re: #91 Simple Voice

"...and forget about the frog, because it was fake."

That was Beck's next line.

Because of this story, I made the supreme sacrifice to watch the late-night rebroadcast, just because I wanted to see if I could spot any slight of hand in higher resolution. But when it ran, I heard this next line, so I had to come back here and re-check this video, and yeah, in THIS Case, Beck was the victim of a premature edit. I did think the cut was a little abrupt at the end of the clip, and now I know why.

So what's the deal these days? Is everyone so desperate to be right that they don't mind ACTUALLY being wrong, and think they can get away with fake evidence? There's enough REAL evidence around here to accomplish good ends. There's NO NEED to go around faking things.

Whether it's typing up Memos in Word and declaring them real on CBS, or changing a petition after someone's signed it, or creatively editing someone's words, or Photoshopping news photos, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM PEOPLE? You're gonna get caught, and whatever point you THOUGHT you were making is going to get lost, and you're going to make yourself into a fool and discredit your cause.

Really, is Honesty really that difficult? And if you can't win your cause without lying, is it really a cause worth fighting for? Because if you think a cause is so worthy that you must lie to support it, then you've got everything backwards.

400 Bubblehead II  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 3:04:57am

re: #397 capn_jon


Karma: -13


capn_jon
Registered since: Dec 3, 2007 at 2:55 pm
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Nice flounce.

401 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 3:05:40am
402 Bubblehead II  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 4:56:40am

Karma: -16


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Jeez, they just keep crawling out of the wood work.

403 Sacred Plants  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 6:58:01am

Time to replace that dusty commie police uniform with a well-cut Frog Prince costume.

404 sakublock  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 7:53:43am

US imports over !millions lbs of Frog legs a year. Not sure what the big deal is here, its a variety show like John Stewart except not funny.

405 captdiggs  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 7:57:18am

I don't watch Beck. I watched about 5 minutes a long time ago and decided he was a clown who is only interested in ratings so as to increase his income.
He gets entirely too much attention...which is what he is after.

406 That's Glenn Beck to you  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 8:09:13am

re: #398 Sharmuta

I want to apologize to you. I wasn't very nice earlier- I was cranky and shouldn't have posted what I did. That was very rude of me, and I hope you'll accept my apology.

Don't even worry about it.

When I first did "That's Glenn Beck to you" it was right after Beck did his "Martin Luther King" slam on Charles. I posted and then got called away for a few hours. Normally I try to do follow up posts as people try to figure out the sarcasm of these sockpuppets. That didn't happen in that case so a monitor (it may have been you) understandably deleted the post. So I emailed an apology to Charles for not sticking around to make it clear that it was over the top.

All of that amounted to a poor introduction and understandable subsequent reactions. So there is no need for you to apologize and thank you for the consideration.

407 norman1905  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 8:46:27am

Frog is really code word for Frenchman. Is Beck still hanging on to the FrenchFreedom - fries days? Is he proposing to throw Frenchmen into boiling water? I'm grossly offended!

Seriously, lighten up. And if you're worried about the children, Beck's show is the least of the evils on TV at that time.

408 Bowler  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 9:36:50am

Am I the only person who is seeing ads for Beck's new book in the sidebar on the right? Does Charles even know Beck is advertising on LGF?

409 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 3:08:45pm

Much ado about very little here. If this is irresponsible, so was "Finding Nemo"as we now know little kids were flushing little Nemos to set them free.

Except Beck has an adult audience. Hey if the frog had been real, and he finished Frog Legs as a recipe, would it be okay to run on the Food Channel? Beck is so over the top, and then he seems to want to top his last stunt, so it escalates.

Honestly whats the big attraction of these TV pundits anyway? Do we not wind up helping them with all this scorn?

Do we need the "English to English" translators all that bad?

410 [deleted]  Thu, Sep 24, 2009 11:54:00pm
411 freetoken  Fri, Sep 25, 2009 3:37:07am

Since I did a swing by WND I figure the following is worth noting too:

In their new article about Kirk Cameron and his project to hand out pre-pended versions of Origin of Species, WND gives us a dump of who is behind this scheme:

Comfort's Living Waters is working on the project with Answers in Genesis, Campus Crusade for Christ, Teen Mania and the Alliance Defense Fund.


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