Monday Night Music: Tom Waits, ‘What’s He Building in There?’
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From Tom Waits’ classic album Mule Variations, a little excursion into paranoia.
Dedicated to the right wing blogosphere.
246 comments
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bosforus Mon, Sep 28, 2009 8:37:24pm |
re: #1 Dark_Falcon
See what happens when you leave? The party dies.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 28, 2009 8:38:33pm |
See also: The Ocean Doesn’t Want Me Today
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jaunte Mon, Sep 28, 2009 8:38:50pm |
This is a good theme song for the private threads.
What’s he building in there?
What the hell is he building
In there?
He has subscriptions to those
Magazines… He never
Waves when he goes by
He’s hiding something from
The rest of us… He’s all
To himself… I think I know
Why… He took down the
Tire swing from the Peppertree
He has no children of his
Own you see… He has no dog
And he has no friends and
His lawn is dying… and
What about all those packages
He sends. What’s he building in there?
With that hook light
On the stairs. What’s he building
In there… I’ll tell you one thing
He’s not building a playhouse for
The children what’s he building
In there?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 28, 2009 8:41:15pm |
Bank of America kicks ACORN to the curb.
I like this story. I’m glad to see ACORN losing its mortgage racket.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 28, 2009 8:48:25pm |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Sep 28, 2009 8:54:33pm |
OT: What is he building in there? We have a right to know.
/
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Dianna Mon, Sep 28, 2009 8:57:07pm |
re: #6 Dark_Falcon
Bank of America kicks ACORN to the curb.
I like this story. I’m glad to see ACORN losing its mortgage racket.
Yep.
It couldn’t happen soon enough for me.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 28, 2009 8:59:23pm |
re: #9 badger1970
Now only if BoA can “forget” my loan… /
Mine too. Seriously, though, I’m glad to have some good news to report. There’s too much gloom and doom out there and sometimes you forget the simple pleasures like watching lefties get dropped like a bad habit after their misdeeds are exposed.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:01:03pm |
Hot Air commenter:
On another topic, did you see the video in Chicago of those neanderthols beating up that poor kid. Disgusting. The African American community wonders why everyone has a low opinion of them as a whole, asked and answered. I feel so bad for that poor honor student’s family who did their best to raise their kid right and neanderthols kill him. Send the suburbs the honor students from the hood so they have a fighting chance. Unfortunately the suburbs only get the neanderthols so the urban school’s numbers look better for contract negotiating time for the teachers union. Pathetic.
jaimo on September 28, 2009 at 10:03 PM
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:03:53pm |
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jaunte Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:04:30pm |
The African American community wonders why everyone has a low opinion of them as a whole, asked and answered.
Jaimo fails both logic and (neanderthol) spelling.
Maybe he’s a maker of conferenece signs.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:05:05pm |
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:05:48pm |
re: #17 jaunte
Jaimo fails both logic and (neanderthol) spelling.
Maybe he’s a maker of conferenece signs.
I hear that he likes to hang out at tea parties…
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Gus Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:05:55pm |
re: #14 Charles
Hot Air commenter:
The neanderthol [sic] cannot spell neanderthal.
I’ve read comments like that before. They almost speak for themselves and they reek of latent klannerisms.
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Jack Burton Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:07:19pm |
re: #17 jaunte
Jaimo fails both logic and (neanderthol) spelling.
Maybe he’s a maker of conferenece signs.
I wish people would look up the correct spellings of the big words they try to use. Is that too much to ask.
Same thing goes for protest signs. Please for the love of… get a dictionary or check dictionary.com.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:07:27pm |
re: #17 jaunte
He also has no idea what he’s talking about. I went to a suburban school, and the kids that bused in from the city were the ones whose parent were serious about their education, not so that the city schools could ship off problem students to us for their “numbers” or whatever the hell that bigot is talking about.
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Bagua Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:09:43pm |
re: #18 Dark_Falcon
Hot Air: from respectable blog to racist hell-hole. Sad.
I’ve found their comment section unacceptable since first visit, it always veered towards extremism the few time I could be bothered to read it.
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Velvet Elvis Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:10:13pm |
Here’s a well researched DailyKos diary dubunking the “it was global cooling in the 70s” talking point.
Some my sneer at the source, but when someone does their homework I don’t care where on the net they choose to display it.
[Link: www.dailykos.com…]
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The Shadow Do Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:10:47pm |
re: #13 albusteve
Cowboys win…life is good
Have you noticed how much better he has played since I started dating Jessica?
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:14:30pm |
re: #27 The Shadow Do
Have you noticed how much better he has played since I started dating Jessica?
She was a distraction for Romo, that’s certain. He played very poorly at the one Cowboys game she attended. Afterward, Terrell Owens read Romo the Riot Act and put some needed distance between Romo’s job and his love life.
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Mich-again Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:15:02pm |
He has no dog? Dude is a freak. End of story.
/
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:15:14pm |
Dianna
I just sent you the latest copy of my story. That’s what I was doing instead of posting here.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:15:22pm |
re: #28 Dark_Falcon
Oh, for Pete’s sake. Don’t blame women when men can’t do their jobs.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:16:39pm |
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:17:24pm |
re: #32 LudwigVanQuixote
The left has the “satire” excuse. The right opted for “sarcasm”.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:17:44pm |
re: #14 Charles
Hot Air commenter:
PIMF,
Yeah there’s nothing racist there to see, is there?
Perhaps it was satire…
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The Shadow Do Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:18:12pm |
re: #28 Dark_Falcon
She was a distraction for Romo, that’s certain. He played very poorly at the one Cowboys game she attended. Afterward, Terrell Owens read Romo the Riot Act and put some needed distance between Romo’s job and his love life.
Yes, TO and I have got Romo back on track. No need to thank us, just doing our job for the boys.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:19:05pm |
re: #33 Sharmuta
The left has the “satire” excuse. The right opted for “sarcasm”.
I thought that the Rush defenders were saying his remarks about Obama’s America and segregating busses was satire…
I mean I don’t really care what spin they choose to put on that evil racist bastard, but I thought that was the one they were using.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:19:59pm |
re: #35 The Shadow Do
Yes, TO and I have got Romo back on track. No need to thank us, just doing our job for the boys.
Who are you play-acting as, John Mayer?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:20:11pm |
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Gus Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:21:14pm |
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Dianna Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:22:17pm |
re: #30 Kosh’s Shadow
Dianna
I just sent you the latest copy of my story. That’s what I was doing instead of posting here.
I have it!
I will start it in the morning, if you don’t mind. I should have at least an initial set of comments by tomorrow evening. Will that be OK, or am I starting to encroach on Yom Kippur?
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albusteve Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:22:25pm |
re: #27 The Shadow Do
Have you noticed how much better he has played since I started dating Jessica?
when you get married we’ll win the Super Bowl!…hurry up
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Mich-again Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:22:36pm |
re: #31 Sharmuta
Oh, for Pete’s sake. Don’t blame women when men can’t do their jobs.
Sorry but I believe that analysis is true for football players at least. Seen many examples of players who couldn’t play to the best of their abilities when they had woman trouble. My advice to my boys, no girlfriends if you want to be a good football player. Its not a slam against women, its a matter of priorities.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:22:43pm |
re: #38 LudwigVanQuixote
Now I like you, but as a lifelong Steelers fan…
Sorry your team hit the skids. Da Bears beating them wasn’t so bad, but the Bengals? That must hurt.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:23:08pm |
re: #35 The Shadow Do
TO did that as a Buffalo Bill? Thanks Ralph Wilson…
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:23:21pm |
re: #40 Dianna
I have it!
I will start it in the morning, if you don’t mind. I should have at least an initial set of comments by tomorrow evening. Will that be OK, or am I starting to encroach on Yom Kippur?
Yom Kippur ended at sundown today.
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albusteve Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:23:26pm |
re: #38 LudwigVanQuixote
Now I like you, but as a lifelong Steelers fan…
who are they?…pole dancers?
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bofhell Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:23:50pm |
re: #40 Dianna
I have it!
I will start it in the morning, if you don’t mind. I should have at least an initial set of comments by tomorrow evening. Will that be OK, or am I starting to encroach on Yom Kippur?
Yom Kippur is over in most of the US now. Next up, Sukkot on Friday night!
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:23:56pm |
re: #40 Dianna
I have it!
I will start it in the morning, if you don’t mind. I should have at least an initial set of comments by tomorrow evening. Will that be OK, or am I starting to encroach on Yom Kippur?
That’s fine; Yom Kippur ended this evening. I didn’t get it done in time, so I did it afterwards.
Thanks.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:23:58pm |
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Dianna Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:24:14pm |
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:24:52pm |
re: #42 Mich-again
Sorry but I believe that analysis is true for football players at least. Seen many examples of players who couldn’t play to the best of their abilities when they had woman trouble. My advice to my boys, no girlfriends if you want to be a good football player. Its not a slam against women, its a matter of priorities.
That isn’t “woman trouble”. That’s “other brain” trouble. Not our fault if men haven’t learned to control that by the time they’re playing pro.
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Spare O'Lake Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:25:14pm |
re: #34 LudwigVanQuixote
PIMF,
Yeah there’s nothing racist there to see, is there?
Perhaps it was satire…
The video of the Chicago attack I saw on CTV National News this evening was truly horrific. Several “youts” clubbing another youngster with pieces of wood and kicking him. Apparently gang-related.
The perps and the victim appeared to all be Afro-American.
No room for sarcasm or satire here.
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albusteve Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:25:15pm |
surfing Ken Burns film about the National Parks on the telly…a must see
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Dianna Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:25:18pm |
re: #49 Kosh’s Shadow
That’s fine; Yom Kippur ended this evening. I didn’t get it done in time, so I did it afterwards.
Thanks.
Oh.
I’m looking forward to reading it. I hope my initial comments helped.
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The Shadow Do Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:25:19pm |
re: #37 Dark_Falcon
Who are you play-acting as, John Mayer?
Oh heck no. I just caught her on the rebound. My only concern is the Cowboys!
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:25:45pm |
re: #43 Dark_Falcon
Sorry your team hit the skids. Da Bears beating them wasn’t so bad, but the Bengals? That must hurt.
Now is there a particular reason to kick a man when he’s down?
I waggle my towel in your general direction.
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albusteve Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:26:15pm |
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:26:21pm |
re: #53 Spare O’Lake
I heard the victim was a bystander waiting for a bus when the melee broke out nearby.
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Van Helsing Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:26:24pm |
re: #58 LudwigVanQuixote
Now is there a particular reason to kick a man when he’s down?
Cuz its easy?
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austin_blue Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:26:29pm |
re: #6 Dark_Falcon
Bank of America kicks ACORN to the curb.
I like this story. I’m glad to see ACORN losing its mortgage racket.
DF-
While ACORN certainly deserves to get batted around, they have received $53 million since 1994 from the Feds.
These clowns have a $180+ million contract for three years in Afghanistan and another $500+ million dollar contract in Iraq for the same time frame. The ACORN bunch seems to contain a lot of fools. ArmorGroup seems to be run by thieves:
[Link: washingtonindependent.com…]
Why aren’t marines doing Embassy Security like they do in the rest of the world at a fraction of the cost? Oh, that’s right, we Privatize the Profit and Socialize the Cost.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:27:08pm |
Name another profession where men can’t do their job because of “woman trouble”. No fair counting Bill Clinton. ;p
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Gus Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:27:09pm |
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The Shadow Do Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:27:19pm |
re: #41 albusteve
when you get married we’ll win the Super Bowl!…hurry up
I’m already married, five wonderful years! Of course that is out of thirty…
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jaunte Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:27:43pm |
re: #54 albusteve
surfing Ken Burns film about the National Parks on the telly…a must see
I listened to Burns on NPR recently talking about making that film; it sounds fascinating.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:28:12pm |
re: #55 Dianna
Oh.
I’m looking forward to reading it. I hope my initial comments helped.
They did. You’ll find this time it really has a plot.
Time to go to bed.
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Gus Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:28:40pm |
re: #66 jaunte
I listened to Burns on NPR recently talking about making that film; it sounds fascinating.
Burns is a genius.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:28:40pm |
re: #53 Spare O’Lake
The video of the Chicago attack I saw on CTV National News this evening was truly horrific. Several “youts” clubbing another youngster with pieces of wood and kicking him. Apparently gang-related.
The perps and the victim appeared to all be Afro-American.
No room for sarcasm or satire here.
Except that gang violence was a reality before Obama was in office, not all gang members are black, the south has gangs too who do the same stuff (but they frequently wear sheets) and that right is trying to paint this as another sign that America has somehow changed for the worse by promoting fear of black people.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:29:22pm |
There have been some arrests made in that horrific murder in Chicago:
Official: Suspect admits role in beating death of Chicago teen
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Dianna Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:29:30pm |
re: #67 Kosh’s Shadow
They did. You’ll find this time it really has a plot.
Time to go to bed.
Indeed. Sleep well.
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Mich-again Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:29:31pm |
re: #52 Sharmuta
That isn’t “woman trouble”. That’s “other brain” trouble. Not our fault if men haven’t learned to control that by the time they’re playing pro.
I’m not talking pro football players, just high school football players. Trying to deal with practice schedules, homework and girlfriends is too much for any high schooler. One of them has to go. And its not going to be the homework, so pick one of the others.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:29:49pm |
re: #62 austin_blue
Oh NoeZ! Mursunairees!
Halliburton…blackwater!
/Call in a strike from the airborne hopey-change unicorn battalion!
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Van Helsing Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:29:53pm |
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albusteve Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:30:02pm |
re: #65 The Shadow Do
I’m already married, five wonderful years! Of course that is out of thirty…
my second marriage was about thirty years condensed into three…women are alot of trouble, you have to give up too much
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:30:14pm |
Man, those stalkers really are watching LGF. It’s amazing.
I opened registration about a half hour ago without mentioning it — six people registered, and two of them were sock puppets for banned users.
Hiya stalkers! How ya doin’ tonight?
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Dianna Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:31:20pm |
re: #75 albusteve
my second marriage was about thirty years condensed into three…women are alot of trouble, you have to give up too much
And, of course, men are long-suffering martyrs.
/
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:32:14pm |
re: #76 Charles
This means that someone sits around and clicks on the reg button to see if anything happens. Repeatedly.
Hobbies. They are a good idea.
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albusteve Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:32:14pm |
re: #72 Mich-again
I’m not talking pro football players, just high school football players. Trying to deal with practice schedules, homework and girlfriends is too much for any high schooler. One of them has to go. And its not going to be the homework, so pick one of the others.
heh…my son won the US Army Scholastic/Athlete Award…all conference, 4.0…not much like his dad
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:32:32pm |
re: #76 Charles
Man, those stalkers really are watching LGF. It’s amazing.
I opened registration about a half hour ago without mentioning it — six people registered, and two of them were sock puppets for banned users.
Hiya stalkers! How ya doin’ tonight?
They’ve been watching this thread since it went us.
[waves at bigsockpuppet]
And for the other four who registered, welcome to LGF. If you just joined up and aren’t a sockpuppet, post and be recognized.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:33:26pm |
re: #76 Charles
Man, those stalkers really are watching LGF. It’s amazing.
I opened registration about a half hour ago without mentioning it — six people registered, and two of them were sock puppets for banned users.
Hiya stalkers! How ya doin’ tonight?
It’s so thoughtful of you to give their lives a purpose.
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Mich-again Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:34:05pm |
re: #79 albusteve
heh…my son won the US Army Scholastic/Athlete Award…all conference, 4.0…not much like his dad
I assume he had no GF at the time. Maybe lots of them, but not one.
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The Shadow Do Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:34:08pm |
re: #76 Charles
Consistent, 33% doofus (prox) based on the statistics you have provided.
/Trying to find a meaning in that.
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albusteve Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:34:38pm |
re: #77 Dianna
And, of course, men are long-suffering martyrs.
/
I’m still suffering…I think it’s permanent, they got the mine and I got the shaft…woe is me
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jaunte Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:34:54pm |
re: #78 EmmmieG
This means that someone sits around and clicks on the reg button to see if anything happens. Repeatedly.
Hobbies. They are a good idea.
Some people are apparently satisfied with clicky-clicky as a hobby.
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Velvet Elvis Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:35:00pm |
Richard and Linda Thompson: Walking on a Wilre (live)
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Gus Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:35:00pm |
re: #76 Charles
Man, those stalkers really are watching LGF. It’s amazing.
I opened registration about a half hour ago without mentioning it — six people registered, and two of them were sock puppets for banned users.
Hiya stalkers! How ya doin’ tonight?
You mean to tell me that they’re saying that they’re glad to be banned yet watching every word we type here right now? I’ve seen it where they do that and go as far as copying our comments here and copy and paste it there to make it part of the conversation. Damn, that must really suck.
;)
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Van Helsing Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:35:31pm |
re: #62 austin_blue
These clowns have a $180+ million contract for three years in Afghanistan and another $500+ million dollar contract in Iraq for the same time frame. The ACORN bunch seems to contain a lot of fools. ArmorGroup seems to be run by thieves:
Just goes to show you, the government can’t do much right.
I’d rather they didn’t try to ‘improve’ the health insurance industry too much.
Perhaps if they addressed the fraud and waste they already know is in Medicare/Medicaid.
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albusteve Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:35:32pm |
re: #82 Mich-again
I assume he had no GF at the time. Maybe lots of them, but not one.
he’s a good multi tasker…he had his pick of the herd…still does
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Gus Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:39:10pm |
re: #76 Charles
Man, those stalkers really are watching LGF. It’s amazing.
I opened registration about a half hour ago without mentioning it — six people registered, and two of them were sock puppets for banned users.
Hiya stalkers! How ya doin’ tonight?
OK, Kelly Johnson’s rule number 13 of his 14 Rules of Management.
13. Access by outsiders to the project and its personnel must be strictly controlled by appropriate security measures.
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austin_blue Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:39:42pm |
re: #73 Fenway_Nation
Oh NoeZ! Mursunairees!
Halliburton…blackwater!
/Call in a strike from the airborne hopey-change unicorn battalion!
Just pointing out that instead of enhancing security, they threaten it. And they are very well paid to do so.
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Mich-again Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:41:22pm |
re: #89 albusteve
he’s a good multi tasker…he had his pick of the herd…still does
I’ll guess that comment isn’t going to be very popular with approximately 50% of the audience, but I get it. Kids in HS especially FB players need to steer far away from the clinging GF types. It doesn’t seem to affect baseball or basketball players nearly as much. But it destroys football players. Not really sure why.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:41:24pm |
The “neanderthol” is still there at Hot Air. Nobody even blinked at it.
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jaunte Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:41:32pm |
re: #91 austin_blue
Sounds like a poorly managed group:
[Link: washingtonindependent.com…]
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Dreader1962 Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:42:41pm |
I’ve got to share this; it’s kind of odd, but fun.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:43:10pm |
re: #92 Mich-again
I’ll guess that comment isn’t going to be very popular with approximately 50% of the audience, but I get it. Kids in HS especially FB players need to steer far away from the clinging GF types. It doesn’t seem to affect baseball or basketball players nearly as much. But it destroys football players. Not really sure why.
Given that I’m doing my best to convince my 14 year-old that she doesn’t NEED a boyfriend until she’s 18, or 21, or maybe 25, I’m okay with the no-girlfriend rule.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:43:14pm |
re: #76 Charles
Man, those stalkers really are watching LGF. It’s amazing.
I opened registration about a half hour ago without mentioning it — six people registered, and two of them were sock puppets for banned users.
Hiya stalkers! How ya doin’ tonight?
BTW, they think that you are a meanie and they won’t go to bed until you say you’re sorry, give them a cookie and a glass of milk, and read them a little bedtime story - preferably one with lots of guns and black helicopters in it.
Charles, they are grown ups! Why don’t you respect their rights to whine and throw tantrums? You are just sooo mean! And they think YOU are stalking THEM! I mean they know you are because they watch this site every moment they are not whining about you!
And the way you won’t let them post racist bile, or outrageous conspiracy theories anymore! Charles… Don’t you know that you have the only corner on the web they could go to print such hateful rants!
And you are also so mean in the way you won’t let them call you hateful names - on your own site even…
I don’t know Charles… Maybe you should ive them a little kiss on their heads and a cookie so they can sleep well. You know they have nightmares a lot these days.
Pamela, McCain, Spencer, Coulter and Malkin all think there is lot’s to be perpetually angry and frightened at. Beck told them so too and Rush is even scared. They are too. They need your attention Charles. They simply can not exist without you noticing them. Their lives are that empty and pathetic and you just don’t care…
Why don’t you feel more sorry for them? It is very hard being an utter loser. Just because you use things like facts and logic and superior thinking in place of superstition, blind hatred and fear mongering, doesn’t mean you have the right to keep showing them up with your superior education. It makes them sad to know they are that dumb too.
And you just don’t care. You would rather let them continue to be pathetic web losers with no other life than ranting about you. I mean that is worse than a WoW junkie, and I try to help those people. But you don’t…
Meanie.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:43:33pm |
Frank Gaffney is all the way into “North American Union” conspiracy land now:
[Link: washingtonindependent.com…]
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Gus Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:43:39pm |
re: #93 Charles
The “neanderthol” is still there at Hot Air. Nobody even blinked at it.
That pretty amazing. It’s an archetype “white flight” comment.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:43:59pm |
re: #93 Charles
The “neanderthol” is still there at Hot Air. Nobody even blinked at it.
They’re becoming stormfront-lite.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:44:08pm |
re: #93 Charles
The “neanderthol” is still there at Hot Air. Nobody even blinked at it.
Of course not. How much more evidence of the effectiveness of baiting racial fears is needed?
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Dianna Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:44:46pm |
re: #96 EmmmieG
Given that I’m doing my best to convince my 14 year-old that she doesn’t NEED a boyfriend until she’s 18, or 21, or maybe 25, I’m okay with the no-girlfriend rule.
I seem to recall my rule was, “no interference with my grades.” It worked. I didn’t have boyfriends, but I had a lot of fun.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:45:24pm |
re: #101 LudwigVanQuixote
Of course not. How much more evidence of the effectiveness of baiting racial fears is needed?
What’s interesting is it’s the scientific racists who think it’s europeans who are part neanderthal.
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albusteve Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:45:49pm |
re: #92 Mich-again
I’ll guess that comment isn’t going to be very popular with approximately 50% of the audience, but I get it. Kids in HS especially FB players need to steer far away from the clinging GF types. It doesn’t seem to affect baseball or basketball players nearly as much. But it destroys football players. Not really sure why.
he was never close to his girls…he’s down in Florida at dental school and now has a real steady…26 years old and she’s finally the love of his life…he’s a very aggressive outdoor type…lots of competition etc…and you are exactly right about clinging girls…they throw themselves at him and it turns him off
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Mich-again Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:45:57pm |
re: #93 Charles
The “neanderthol” is still there at Hot Air. Nobody even blinked at it.
Whenever I see a badly misspelled word like that in a provocative post it always makes me wonder if the misspelling isn’t on purpose. Its such an old-hat trick.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:46:44pm |
re: #103 Sharmuta
What’s interesting is it’s the scientific racists who think it’s europeans who are part neanderthal.
And real Neanderthals were likely pretty peaceful.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:47:53pm |
We’re doomed! Trilateral working groups! North American Union! It’s over, Johnny!
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Dianna Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:48:29pm |
re: #103 Sharmuta
What’s interesting is it’s the scientific racists who think it’s europeans who are part neanderthal.
I’ve read a lot of research that indicates that Neanderthals were pretty peaceable and nice folks, and they knapped better flints than homo sap.
I’m pretty sure (when I’m feeling gloomy, anyhow) that Neanderthals aren’t in the genome.
Pity, that.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:49:11pm |
re: #107 Charles
We’re doomed! Trilateral working groups! North American Union! It’s over, Johnny!
[Video]
There used to be a time when Birchers and LaRoucies and such were considered crazy by the GOP. Now they are becoming the GOP. We really need a third party.
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Velvet Elvis Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:49:32pm |
The creator of the facebook poll application has posted at daily kos talking about the “should obama be killed?” post
[Link: www.dailykos.com…]
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Dianna Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:49:41pm |
re: #107 Charles
People are still wheezing about the Trilateralists?
Get some originality, conspiracists!
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:49:49pm |
That video is a hoot. Gaffney says, “This is NOT black helicopter stuff! Don’t believe them when they tell you it’s not true.”
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swamprat Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:51:45pm |
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Dianna Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:54:10pm |
He’s never tried to read a Trilateral Commission paper.
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austin_blue Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:54:29pm |
re: #113 Charles
That video is a hoot. Gaffney says, “This is NOT black helicopter stuff! Don’t believe them when they tell you it’s not true.”
“Did you hear the Black Helicopter hovering over your house last night?”
“Uh, no?”
“See!!!”
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Mich-again Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:55:31pm |
re: #96 EmmmieG
Given that I’m doing my best to convince my 14 year-old that she doesn’t NEED a boyfriend until she’s 18, or 21, or maybe 25, I’m okay with the no-girlfriend rule.
Its a tricky road for parents. The more you tell them what to avoid, the more they naturally want to not avoid it out of curiosity. But you can’t just say nothing about it. Lucky for us, our two oldest ones are boys, they are easier to influence which gives us some time to learn about dealing with the youngest.
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Dianna Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:55:45pm |
I think I won’t email this video link to certain of my friends. Either it’s a satire, and I’m taking it seriously when I shouldn’t, or people really believe this stuff.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:56:20pm |
re: #7 Killgore Trout
Thank you for posting this. My favorite Waits song.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:56:54pm |
LOL.
Al Sharpton is the guest host on tonight’s RAW, and the crowd in Albany is booing the hell out of him.
Good.
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swamprat Mon, Sep 28, 2009 9:59:03pm |
Well, I must sleep, so I can have the energy required for a busy day of beavering.
Goodnight to all lizards in the tri-national area and abroad.
Watch your tail.
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Dianna Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:00:05pm |
I fell asleep sitting here. This indicates bedtime came and went.
Good night.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:00:16pm |
re: #124 swamprat
Fare thee well, rodent of the marshland persuasion!
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Mich-again Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:00:17pm |
re: #120 Dianna
Are you the same Dianna that sent me the original link way back in the day about Kiddofspeed? If so, nice to hear from you again. I have used that link 100 times at least. If not, disregard.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:01:02pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:03:43pm |
re: #63 Sharmuta
Name another profession where men can’t do their job because of “woman trouble”. No fair counting Bill Clinton. ;p
Gigolo?
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:07:58pm |
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:08:04pm |
re: #130 Pietr
I don’t think I feel like waiting around for you to post your “goodbye cruel world” comment, so I’ll make your decision easier and block your account right now. No need to thank me.
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Dark_Falcon Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:10:03pm |
re: #131 laZardo
Evening honcos! How goes the downfall of conservatism?
Still painful to watch. I’ve got to go now. I’m just too tired to stay.
Goodnight all.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:10:08pm |
re: #107 Charles
I wonder if there were folks spouting similar quackery about the formation of NATO, The United Nations, The Justice League, and so on…
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:11:03pm |
re: #134 laZardo
Or, if they’re like me…which a lot of them are, they go to school AND work.
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laZardo Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:11:12pm |
re: #135 Dark_Falcon
Cheers. Moving forward is always painful even for those who want to.
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freetoken Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:11:48pm |
re: #132 TheMatrix31
Well, that includes all young people 16-24. Once you graduate (and from a well known school) you’ll do much better than most.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:11:53pm |
re: #133 Charles
It sounded a tad hostile earlier, but I chose to ignore the tone.
Wasn’t quite sure…
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:12:16pm |
re: #136 Slumbering Behemoth
I wonder if there were folks spouting similar quackery about the formation of NATO, The United Nations, The Justice League, and so on…
Absolutely — in the past this was limited to fringe nutjobs like the John Birch Society, though. Now it’s completely mainstream right wing fare.
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laZardo Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:12:33pm |
re: #137 TheMatrix31
Point. However wouldn’t a great portion of those jobs be minimum wage/part-time sort of stuff?
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:12:45pm |
re: #135 Dark_Falcon
Sleep tight, don’t let the bedbugs bite!
{DF}
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:14:09pm |
re: #139 freetoken
Well if the people my age who graduated in 2009 are any indication, then I’m fucked.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:14:23pm |
re: #140 Floral Giraffe
It sounded a tad hostile earlier, but I chose to ignore the tone.
Wasn’t quite sure…
He obviously didn’t like my comment here:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
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erraticsphinx Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:14:25pm |
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but the Drudge Report’s front page really seems to be working…an angle.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:15:42pm |
re: #148 erraticsphinx
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet but the Drudge Report’s front page really seems to be working…an angle.
Oh no. He didn’t.
“Olympic Spirit???”
That’s really sick.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:16:40pm |
re: #145 Sharmuta
Any update on Scarborough, Charles?
Never heard back from his producer. I suspect they shut down his idea of an honor roll of Beck critics. You could tell from that video I posted that Andrea Mitchell was not happy about it.
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freetoken Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:16:52pm |
re: #146 TheMatrix31
Why so down? I forgot what you are studying…
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:17:39pm |
Since when are gang fights front page screaming headlines at Drudge Report?
Man, this stuff is getting completely out of control.
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erraticsphinx Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:17:54pm |
re: #149 Charles
After a day of headlines about Obama going to Copenhagen to lobby for the Olympics one can draw their own ugly, ugly, conclusions.
It’s totally naked race baiting.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:18:07pm |
re: #150 Charles
Never heard back from his producer. I suspect they shut down his idea of an honor roll of Beck critics. You could tell from that video I posted that Andrea Mitchell was not happy about it.
I did notice that about Mitchell- didn’t make sense to me.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:18:44pm |
re: #141 Charles
So I suppose the wingnuts would have me believe that the NAU will succeed where the long list of other conspiratorial organizations have failed, and destroy my sovereignty and liberty?
Cool. What color helmets will they have?
/
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:19:01pm |
re: #151 freetoken
Political Science.
Just judging by how difficult of a time my peers are having in finding jobs, I don’t feel very optimistic when the time comes and I have to go get a “real” job in order to get experience for business school.
Not sure why I wanna go to business school anyway, probably not so much of a good idea anymore.
Whatever, we’ll see.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:19:28pm |
re: #153 erraticsphinx
After a day of headlines about Obama going to Copenhagen to lobby for the Olympics one can draw their own ugly, ugly, conclusions.
It’s totally naked race baiting.
Absolutely. There’s no mask on it at all.
Very disturbing. These people seem to be doing their best to provoke violence.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:21:09pm |
Isn’t Rio de Janerio one of the competing citis for the 2016 Olympic bid? It’s not like there’s less crime in that particular municipality…
Not sure how much of it is caught on amateur video…
/Also not sure how hard Lula himself is lobbying on Rio’s behalf.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:22:03pm |
re: #147 Charles
You are unsurpassed in your Troll-Fu.
I’m sorry you have that much experience, but you make it serve you well.
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freetoken Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:22:37pm |
re: #157 TheMatrix31
So the question becomes, why did you pick PoliSci as an undergraduate major?
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laZardo Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:24:00pm |
re: #157 TheMatrix31
You could end up with ACORN.
//
/although sometimes organizations can best be subverted from the inside. bwahahahaha
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:25:11pm |
re: #161 freetoken
Not worried about my major as much as the current climate and the future business climate being paved for mine and future generations.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:25:15pm |
re: #163 Fenway_Nation
That was supposed to read ‘Ouch…just…ouch’.
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Mark Pennington Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:25:23pm |
I just wanted to say hi and thank you for allowing me to become a member of LGF. I look forward to making a positive contribution here. (btw, I’m Mark on kejda.net) It’s late and I’m off to bed but will check back tomorrow.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:26:12pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:26:51pm |
re: #161 freetoken
I had a couple of GREAT Poly-Sci elective courses.
One was “taught” by Larry Berg at USC. He hauled in every politico in town, and made them talk for an hour, Thursday nights at 7, IIRC, then “class” adjourned to “Julies Trojan Barrel” where a pitcher of beer was $1 (It was a LONG time ago), and Larry bought, while the guest speaker answered students questions. My favorite ( and I wish I’d known enough to as a HARD question) was Jesse Unruh.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:27:03pm |
re: #156 Slumbering Behemoth
The truly sad thing about this is that the NAU conspiracy mongering has been a staple of Alex Jones’ shtick since at least the Clinton admin.
Far right-wingers, the fringe, were buying it then. Now, yes, the conspiracy Tao of Jones is becoming more mainstream among the right.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:28:48pm |
re: #166 beekiller
I just wanted to say hi and thank you for allowing me to become a member of LGF. I look forward to making a positive contribution here. (btw, I’m Mark on kejda.net) It’s late and I’m off to bed but will check back tomorrow.
Hi Mark - welcome to our humble lizardoid cavern.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:28:58pm |
re: #165 Fenway_Nation
Yep. Imagine taking Poli Sci at the school I attend.
…at least I don’t go to Barkeley.
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freetoken Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:29:15pm |
re: #164 TheMatrix31
What I’m driving at is this: don’t let circumstances rule your life. If you have a dream/aspiration the go for it. Even if it doesn’t turn out like you hoped (and indeed, often is the case where the results of our efforts turn out as we had initially expected) you will be able to look back and not regret leaving a stone unturned.
Trying to build your future around what other’s say is the current climate is not a path to happiness or fulfillment, IMO.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:29:27pm |
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:29:52pm |
re: #173 beekiller
yay! Thank you.
No- thank you! I don’t like bees, and you can do the killing while I run away. ;)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:30:04pm |
re: #158 Charles
This is going to be a long eight years.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:30:16pm |
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Mark Pennington Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:31:17pm |
re: #168 Fenway_Nation
I don’t really hate them but I’m allergic to them. My girlfriend nicknamed me beekiller because I threaten them verbally when they come near me.
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Dancing along the light of day Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:31:24pm |
re: #170 Floral Giraffe
I’m old, OK. It was great fun, at the time.
(Why can’t we have civil discourse now?)
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kay1212 Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:32:27pm |
OT: Yemen is a mess. Anyone have any ideas about what this will turn into or any way to restore some semblance of calm?
From the Wall St Jnl:
Arab and Western officials worry that al Qaeda is securing a stronghold in Yemen, where the government’s focus on quelling a rebel insurgency is allowing the terror group to strengthen its ability to destabilize neighbors in East Africa and the Mideast.
Yemen’s government, which has long struggled to assert control over the country’s far-flung tribes and Islamic militant groups, launched a new offensive this summer against rebels living near its northern border with Saudi Arabia. The fighting, now in its seventh week, has shaken a fragile humanitarian situation. United Nations officials warned recently that food aid in the region is running low.
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European Pressphoto Agency
Armed Yemeni tribesmen who allegedly support the government’s fight against Houthi rebels gathered in northern Saada province earlier this month.
A report released this month by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace warned that Yemen is facing “unprecedented” levels of instability.
The homeland of Osama bin Laden’s father, Yemen has long been a top U.S. security concern. For years, al Qaeda militants — including at least one Saudi released from U.S. custody in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba — have taken refuge here. One complication surrounding the closing of the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo is what to do with the nearly 100 Yemeni detainees there. U.S. intelligence officials say they have little confidence in the Yemeni government’s ability to keep them in prison back in their home country.
Looking Back at Yemen’s Role in the Middle East
Journal coverage of Yemen in the Middle East in the late 1970s:
North Yemen Becomes One of Pivotal Nations in an East-West Tilt (June 2, 1977)
North Yemen, a Relic of 15th Century, Stirs 20th-Century Rivalries (May 25, 1979)
Since the 2000 al Qaeda attack on the USS Cole in the Yemeni port of Aden, U.S. officials have reported mixed results from the Yemeni government in the fight against terrorism. President Ali Abdullah Saleh established a rehabilitation program for jailed Islamic militants, but hasn’t curbed the growing network of al Qaeda fighters who have flocked to lawless parts of Yemen and are using the country as a launching pad for attacks.
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Mark Pennington Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:32:50pm |
re: #174 Charles
Thank you for having me. I love this site!
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Velvet Elvis Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:32:52pm |
re: #177 TheMatrix31
Berkeley*
…Barkeley. Full of dogs.
The place which now employs John Yoo?
It’s not as radical a place as it was in the 60s and 70s. The surrounding area is still pretty out there but the university is no radical leftist haven.
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Irenicum Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:33:35pm |
re: #181 TheMatrix31
Maybe you need a demotivator?
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austin_blue Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:34:08pm |
Night all!
Sweet dreams, and Charles, thanks for LGF.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:34:39pm |
re: #186 Conservative Moonbat
I don’t know about that, unless things have changed in two years…
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:35:56pm |
re: #152 Charles
re: #158 Charles
re: #154 Irenicum
Yes, it is another form of the bone in the nose.
The picture that the right, who are supposed to be the defenders of American principles, like all men are created equal, is pushing is nothing more than pure evil hypocrisy.
In some sense, these are very conservative people, they are showing brutal images to make an entire portion of America 3/5 of a person again.
All of them who do this, Drudge, Rush, Beck, the harpy, Spencer and the rest of the twisted parts of the blogosphere, will sit there and claim no fault at all, no responsibility at all when this erupts in lynchings.
Inhofe and others will comment “well what did you expect…” Palin will be perky about “the tragedy…” and then go on to blame Obama somehow. And yet, it is like watching a car wreck in slow motion for me.
I have studied history greatly, and I have studied the rise of the real nazis extensively. It started by stoking fears of losing Germany completely and calling the government weak. Of course there were “sub-humans” at work to bring it all down. The first Nazis sounded like almost reasonable patriots, if you ignored the racism.
And then the seeds got sewn.. more and more.
We are watching a cancer fester in the heart of the Republic. These sorts of views only spread hatred and fear and they only ever end in violence.
Right now it is talk mostly. Talk talk talk… dangerous talk. Yet, give it time to make the crazies more bold as fewer people call them crazy and it becomes more acceptable to think that way and give in to base fears and hatreds as a major national party, that waves the flag, legitimatizes it.
The thing that gives me hope is that the economy is doing ok. If it does tank, given the national propaganda of the moment, we really will see an American fascist party.
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:36:08pm |
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freetoken Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:38:40pm |
re: #192 laZardo
laZardo… good to see you back. Were you affected by the rains?
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Bagua Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:41:24pm |
re: #190 LudwigVanQuixote
It is likely the economy will tank, the question in more when than if.
No question it will help motivate some of the more extreme elements, they are buying gold and devices to drink their own urine even when the economy is growing.
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laZardo Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:41:35pm |
re: #193 freetoken
I managed to escape college early and thankfully remained relatively high and dry. I’m heading out in a half hour to find an aid center that isn’t full up.
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Irenicum Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:42:06pm |
re: #190 LudwigVanQuixote
I really wish I could argue with you, say you’re exaggerating, and somehow prove that this isn’t as serious as you make it out to be. But you and I both know better, even though we wish we didn’t. The take away line from what you said that sticks with me is this: “We are watching a cancer fester in the heart of the Republic.” Sad but true.
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laZardo Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:42:58pm |
re: #190 LudwigVanQuixote
This is why there needs to be a new liberal party to fill the void and at least help America move forward, since the current ruling party will have to take the center.
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freetoken Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:43:21pm |
re: #195 laZardo
We were worried you were one of those displaced by the flooding.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:43:49pm |
re: #197 laZardo
Why can’t there be a new centrist party? What makes you think the dems will move to the center?
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Bagua Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:44:05pm |
re: #198 freetoken
We were worried you were one of those displaced by the flooding.
Or flooded by the displacement.
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laZardo Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:44:05pm |
re: #198 freetoken
Huh. Thanks for your concern. With college out possibly for the rest of the week I figure I could use the offtime to volunteer for those who were displaced.
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Irenicum Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:45:07pm |
re: #195 laZardo
Stay safe! There are many many prayers going out to the people of the Philippines. I have a couple of friends right in the heart of it.
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Velvet Elvis Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:45:21pm |
re: #189 TheMatrix31
I don’t know about that, unless things have changed in two years…
My GF is from the bay area. She went to Mills but this is according to her and some of her family members. The student body has it radical elements and the community is practically communist, but they have tried to be more well rounded in their faculty hiring practices.
Unless you’re looking for a specicificly conservative university, you’re probably going to find some academic Marxists on the faculty no matter where you go. I went to Middle Tennessee State and had three of them, all in different fields and only one of them I deliberately took because he was a Marxist (it was a class on marx). Yes, academia in general is left wing. It’s nothing particular to UCB
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laZardo Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:45:44pm |
re: #199 Sharmuta
The Dem’s won’t move to the center, the center and the moderate right will have to come to them to escape falling off to the fringe as the American political spectrum realigns. Many of their constituency already hold conservative family values anyway.
I also suggest a new party because with the current left-of-Democrat parties run by kooks (see Cynthia McKinney) there needs to be a more sensible progressive voice that isn’t historically tied to the political machines.
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Velvet Elvis Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:47:26pm |
re: #199 Sharmuta
Why can’t there be a new centrist party? What makes you think the dems will move to the center?
That’s where the Blue Dogs are now. I consider myself a centrist and proudly support the blue dog wing of the Democratic Party.
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Bagua Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:49:15pm |
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:50:22pm |
re: #207 Conservative Moonbat
That’s where the Blue Dogs are now. I consider myself a centrist and proudly support the blue dog wing of the Democratic Party.
I think the time might be ripe for a centrist party. Moderate conservatives, Blue Dog democrats… There’s really no where for center-right people to go with our party embracing the fringe. I have no where to go.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:51:27pm |
Okay, this is kind of fun.
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laZardo Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:51:37pm |
re: #210 Sharmuta
The Moderate conservatives and Blue Dogs could reform the Democratic party and make it centrist, while the new progressive party could form.
Parties changing alignments isn’t a new concept to America, the Republicans used to be liberal at one point.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:51:53pm |
Just as a really good example of what I am talking about…
Georing in 1933
That is how we want to build the state once more. Slowly, with exhausting effort, we must reestablish the right to work. We want to give German people work again so they can earn their own bread. We want to sow once more and show that a person can live from his own efforts, not depending on some kind of support, that no one starves because someone has stolen from him the right to work. The whole nation must demand that. On the other hand, I demand that each individual puts his whole strength in service of this people and this nation.
Now replace “German” with “American” and tell me this doesn’t sound like a tea party.
This is Robert Ley in 39
Roosevelt speaks about us more than anything else, and his men and ministers speak only about us. England always held its reserve, but cannot do so any longer. France is in the same situation. Even the election of the pope stood in the shadow of the swastika, whether the gentlemen liked it or not. I am sure they spoke of nothing else than how to find a candidate for the chair of St. Peter who was more or less up to dealing with Adolf Hitler.
National Socialism concerns the leaders of the world, it moves the peoples. Germany is at the center of the world, and the world asks: “What is Adolf Hitler doing?” That is their nervous question. My party comrades, today the swastika forces the world to take a position for or against us. The world must decide, it has no choice. There can be no compromise. The Jew leads the other world. It is all or nothing. There is no going back.
Sound familiar?
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freetoken Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:52:31pm |
re: #212 laZardo
… the Republicans used to be liberal at one point.
I prefer them that way… the party of Lincoln through TR.
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:52:35pm |
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:53:10pm |
re: #212 laZardo
There is no way the moderates are going to be able to “hijack” the democrat party and make it centrist. It’s the GOP where the moderates need to take back control.
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Irenicum Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:53:11pm |
re: #215 Fenway_Nation
I guess I’m just a prisoner of my own humor!
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Velvet Elvis Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:53:59pm |
re: #210 Sharmuta
I think the time might be ripe for a centrist party. Moderate conservatives, Blue Dog democrats… There’s really no where for center-right people to go with our party embracing the fringe. I have no where to go.
Quite a few of the Blue Dogs are more conservative than say, Olympia Snowe
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Bagua Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:54:48pm |
re: #213 LudwigVanQuixote
Sounds a bit greenie as well, return to farming, Blut und Boden.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:55:28pm |
re: #220 Bagua
Sounds a bit greenie as well, return to farming, Blut und Boden.
more populist than greenie.
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laZardo Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:56:40pm |
re: #216 Sharmuta
I doubt that’s going to happen, especially given the Republicans’ recent legacy.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:56:41pm |
re: #203 Conservative Moonbat
Or you could always go to art school! At least in the design department, we had no time for politics of any kind. 8-) I missed this whole student politics thing when I was in school, too busy painting and working and building crap for 12 hours a day, six days a week…
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:57:03pm |
re: #218 Conservative Moonbat
Quite a few of the Blue Dogs are more conservative than say, Olympia Snowe
I have very little faith the “RINOs” will be able to regain control of the GOP, and I don’t think the answer is to try to push out the progressives from the democrats. I think the time is ripe for a real third party- one made up of the middle and folks to either side of it that can find common ground on many issues. I have no idea if it will happen or not, but at some point I would think it would have to happen as the GOP is marching over the cliff happily.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:57:42pm |
ok bedtime for Ludwig…
Stay safe and stay stay scaley.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:58:14pm |
re: #223 laZardo
I doubt that’s going to happen, especially given the Republicans’ recent legacy.
I agree, but the answer isn’t for the same republicans being pushed out of the GOP to take over the democrats. We should form our own centrist party.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:59:03pm |
re: #220 Bagua
Sounds a bit greenie as well, return to farming, Blut und Boden.
I always thought the “Blood and Soil” theme was about ethno-nationalism, not greenie initiatives or farming.
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Irenicum Mon, Sep 28, 2009 10:59:08pm |
re: #226 LudwigVanQuixote
Ditto. My scaly self needs a soft pillow right about now,
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Fenway_Nation Mon, Sep 28, 2009 11:00:51pm |
re: #189 TheMatrix31
You could always go to trade school or something. Learn to drive a big rig or weld…not 100% recession proof, but useful skills to have nonetheless.
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laZardo Mon, Sep 28, 2009 11:02:44pm |
re: #228 Slumbering Behemoth
Ethno-nationalism through literal racial purity. In “Blood and Body.” I think. :B
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TheMatrix31 Mon, Sep 28, 2009 11:02:57pm |
re: #230 Fenway_Nation
Yeah, worse comes to worse I’ll do something like that.
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Bagua Mon, Sep 28, 2009 11:03:33pm |
re: #228 Slumbering Behemoth
I always thought the “Blood and Soil” theme was about ethno-nationalism, not greenie initiatives or farming.
Das Bauerntum als Blutquelle des deutschen Volkes erhalten ( [the aim is to] preserve the farming community as blood-source of the German People
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Pawn of the Oppressor Mon, Sep 28, 2009 11:03:50pm |
OT for the person who posted this afternoon about advice on a Puerto Rican vacation (I believe they had “Steve” in their nickname somewhere), before I hit the rack to prepare for another day of pointless Sisyphean drudgery in the pool freight business, I wanted to post my thoughts.
- Acquire and watch the episodes of “Anthony Bourdain: No Reservations” and “Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmern” about Puerto Rico. There is some overlap between the two but both of them go eat some great stuff around various parts of the island, which, by the way, is not that big, you can cover half of it in a day (so rent a car if possible). In retrospect I wish shows like NR and Bizarre Foods had been on TV back in 2000 or so when I went. If I had it to do over again, I would seek out more local foods.
- El Yunque is pretty neat. If you go there, be prepared to walk (it is a path on a mountain) and bring your swimming trunks with you because there is a pool to swim in up there along the trail. The trail is right through the jungle and there is plenty of jungle ambience, including hummingbirds that will come right up to feed from the big flower bushes along the walkway, even on a cruddy overcast day. Take a good camera if you are inclined to try and photograph things like that.
- I don’t know about the rest of the island, but around the northeast corner of it there are nice beaches and ocean-related things to do. I took a catamaran snorkeling day trip with my family and it was great except for two things, first that I didn’t have my contact lenses with me so I saw all that reef wildlife as a series of darting blurs, and second, that I didn’t constantly re-apply sunscreen. I got the worst burns of my life out there. If you go out on the ocean, for Pete’s sakes, take strong sunscreen and keep re-applying it as necessary. Be sure you have a tube of Solarcaine in your travel kit, too. Other than that I highly recommend the snorkeling, it was great fun, especially for a guy like me who had never seen the tropics at all.
- Arecibo is a good stop. It’s a little hard to find, in the lumpy mid-west of the island, but it is a cool place.
- Pina Coladas are sold everywhere. Seriously, it seemed like everywhere we went, we were never more than fifty yards from a stand selling pina coladas. We took advantage of that too. They were good.
- I wish I had been able to go around the old part of San Juan. From what I’ve learned since, it seems like a great place to visit.
- I won’t get into issues of politics or security too much, I’ll just say that the island isn’t as well taken care of as it should be (think borderline third world in some areas) and it’s not immune to looking like a run-down dump complete with garbage in the streets and stray dogs. Nobody was ever unfriendly to us, but on the other hand, people have been robbed and assaulted on resort beaches at night, too. Don’t go there with starry eyes - take sensible precautions and keep your eyes open.
I’ll add more if I think of anything else.
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Bagua Mon, Sep 28, 2009 11:05:59pm |
re: #221 LudwigVanQuixote
more populist than greenie.
See my #233
Blut und Boden “celebrates the relationship of a people to the land that they occupy and cultivate, and places high esteem on the virtues of country (as opposed to urban) living.”
Certainly fits the militia types, as well as some of the greenie ideals.
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Velvet Elvis Mon, Sep 28, 2009 11:06:29pm |
third parties will never work until we change election laws and that will require a constitutional convention. As long as we’ve the “first past the post” system, third parties will always harm the party they have most in common with and ensure the success of the party they most oppose. Case in point: Perot throwing the election to Clinton, Nader throwing the election to Bush, and I’m sure there are many others.
We need to constitutionaly change to instant runoff voting like they use in Australia before any third party can ever have a chance.
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erraticsphinx Mon, Sep 28, 2009 11:08:56pm |
Prediction:
Tomorrow Rush, Sean, Levin, etc etc will be pointing to the gang attack in Chicago to attack Obama on…something.
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Sharmuta Mon, Sep 28, 2009 11:09:20pm |
re: #236 Conservative Moonbat
third parties will never work until we change election laws and that will require a constitutional convention. As long as we’ve the “first past the post” system, third parties will always harm the party they have most in common with and ensure the success of the party they most oppose. Case in point: Perot throwing the election to Clinton, Nader throwing the election to Bush, and I’m sure there are many others.
We need to constitutionaly change to instant runoff voting like they use in Australia before any third party can ever have a chance.
At one point in time, the Republican Party was new and a third party. That’s when the Whigs were dying as a party, and I can’t help but think that’s what’s going on with the GOP now.
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Bagua Mon, Sep 28, 2009 11:09:39pm |
re: #231 laZardo
Ethno-nationalism through literal racial purity. In “Blood and Body.” I think. :B
Nope, Boden = Soil, Ground, Land (as in homeland, but coming literally from the soil.)
Blut = Blood
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Velvet Elvis Mon, Sep 28, 2009 11:33:54pm |
re: #240 Sharmuta
The two in power parties have pretty much fixed things to keep third parties out. They havve shut out access to national debates and made it harder to get federal matching funds and all kinds of stuff.
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sagehen Mon, Sep 28, 2009 11:53:05pm |
re: #214 freetoken
I prefer them that way… the party of Lincoln through TR.
Don’t forget Eisenhower!!
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fire at night Tue, Sep 29, 2009 1:33:43am |
Tom Wait is a bit on the newer side of exposure for me. Is most of his work like that?
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Mark Pennington Tue, Sep 29, 2009 10:13:24am |
re: #244 fire at night
He’s a fantastic song writer. His songs are dark tales of desperate and dodgy characters. One of my favorites is a song called ‘Time’ …I also love the Tori Amos cover of that song.
Well the smart money’s on Harlow and the moon is in the street
And the shadow boys are breaking all the laws
And you’re east of East Saint Louis and the wind is making speeches
And the rain sounds like a round of applause
And Napoleon is weeping in a carnival saloon
His invisible fiancee’s in the mirror
And the band is going home, it’s raining hammers, it’s raining nails
And it’s true there’s nothing left for him down here
And it’s time time time, and it’s time time time
And it’s time time time that you love
And it’s time time time
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