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1 freetoken  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:12:41pm

One fateful...

2 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:13:33pm

das boots!

3 latingent  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:14:02pm

And the tiny ship was tossed...

4 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:14:02pm

OK. Time for bed.

5 freetoken  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:14:34pm

... a millionaire...

6 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:15:26pm

a boat is a hole in the water into which you throw money...

7 Jack Burton  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:16:12pm

The movie star. The Professor and Mary Anne...

8 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:16:32pm

A three hour tour.

A three hour tour.

9 Jack Burton  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:16:46pm

re: #6 redc1c4

Two happiest days when owning a boat are the day you buy it and the day you sell it.

10 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:19:23pm

re: #9 ArchangelMichael

Two happiest days when owning a boat are the day you buy it and the day you sell it.

i was helping one of the dearly departed sail his boat from LA to points north.

we saw this interesting yacht form Nova Scotia in Oxnard, where w*rk was being done to it. next time i saw it was on the news where it had floundered just outside of Morro Bay, and it got washed into the surf line and destroyed before anything could be done... major league suckage there.

11 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:20:27pm

Here on Gilligan's Isle!

12 redc1c4  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:20:59pm

form = from... with class in about 8 hours, which includes driving LA to get there, maybe i should take a hint?


fruitcup is over on the bar: help yo' self!

Scouts Out!

13 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:21:57pm

re: #12 redc1c4

form = from... with class in about 8 hours, which includes driving LA to get there, maybe i should take a hint?

fruitcup is over on the bar: help yo' self!

Scouts Out!

Good night red.

14 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:22:49pm

re: #12 redc1c4

Bye, red!

15 davinvalkri  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:23:32pm

Since this is an open thread, can I do some blatant self-advertising?

Please contribute to my running list!

16 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:27:20pm

re: #15 davinvalkri

Since this is an open thread, can I do some blatant self-advertising?

No- what kind of place do you think this is?

All that willy-nilly blatant self-promotion...honestly

*tsk tsk*
/

17 Jack Burton  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:27:20pm

re: #15 davinvalkri

This:

...no matter which side of the line you are on. (I'm looking at YOU, all you who marched for the death of Bush with claims he stole the 2000 election.)

Should be moved up 2 spots on the list so it comes after the Tea Party kook one that it is referring back to.

18 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:28:10pm

re: #15 davinvalkri

Since this is an open thread, can I do some blatant self-advertising?

Please contribute to my running list!

Here's my contribution:

Accusing the other side of having a health care plan that entails having sick people "die quickly" does not help. (I'm looking at you, Alan Grayson.)

19 davinvalkri  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:31:38pm

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

Here's my contribution:

Accusing the other side of having a health care plan that entails having sick people "die quickly" does not help. (I'm looking at you, Alan Grayson.)

Thanks! Should I add it directly to the main post and credit it to you, or do you want to put it in the comment section?

20 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:32:28pm

re: #19 davinvalkri

Thanks! Should I add it directly to the main post and credit it to you, or do you want to put it in the comment section?

Main post, please. And thank you for the credit.

21 Jack Burton  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:32:41pm

re: #15 davinvalkri

Pretending like it's your job to prop up the stock market and failing businesses instead of controlling inflation does not help. (I'm looking at you, Ben Bernanke.)

22 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:35:53pm

Charisma, culture clash in 2016 Games vote

Personally- I'm kind of pulling for Rio since South America has never had the games, but I will be more than happy to have the games in Chicago. I read earlier that Tokyo is remote, and I doubt Madrid will get the games since 2012 is in London, so I think it will come down to Rio and Chicago. Good luck to both cities.

23 Jack Burton  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:36:43pm

or, probably more in the spirit of things:

Doing and saying outrageous things just because the other side did it when their guy wasn't in office, does not help.

24 Jack Burton  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:37:24pm

(I'm looking at you Right Wing Blogosphere and Talk Radio Hosts)

25 Jack Burton  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:39:02pm

re: #22 Sharmuta

They are both wretched hives of scum and villainy, so I'll pull for Chicago hoping it will being in tourist money and not be a total clusterfuck.

26 davinvalkri  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:39:40pm

re: #23 ArchangelMichael

or, probably more in the spirit of things:

Doing and saying outrageous things just because the other side did it when their guy wasn't in office, does not help.

re: #24 ArchangelMichael

(I'm looking at you Right Wing Blogosphere and Talk Radio Hosts)

re: #21 ArchangelMichael

Pretending like it's your job to prop up the stock market and failing businesses instead of controlling inflation does not help. (I'm looking at you, Ben Bernanke.)

Uploaded and credited to you! Thank you!

27 freetoken  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:41:34pm

re: #25 ArchangelMichael

There is, IMO, a high likelihood that the IOC will favor Rio just because it seems like it is South America's turn, and because the US has hosted so many Olympic games.

The problem for Rio is coming up with the $$$ to compete with the recent editions of the Olympics.

28 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:41:48pm

re: #25 ArchangelMichael

They are both wretched hives of scum and villainy, so I'll pull for Chicago hoping it will being in tourist money and not be a total clusterfuck.

Chicago is not Mos Eisley. We're more like Cloud City: Yes corrupt bargains get made, but the place produces things and actually works.

/"Stay on Target!"

29 Jack Burton  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:43:31pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

Everyone I know who has ever been to Rio or Sao Paulo says, "don't go too far from the hotel or you might disappear."

30 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:45:56pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

Extended weekend forecast for Cloud City:
Today- Mostly cloudy with scattered clouds
Tomorrow- Mostly cloudy with scattered clouds
Saturday- Partly cloudy with chance of more clouds in the afternoon.
Sunday- Scattered clouds with chance of more clouds

31 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:46:22pm

re: #29 ArchangelMichael

Everyone I know who has ever been to Rio or Sao Paulo says, "don't go too far from the hotel or you might disappear."

Exactly. That's why I think Chicago will win the 2016 Olympics. The IOC would like to give it to Rio, but the city is simply to too dangerous.

32 davinvalkri  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:47:05pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

Chicago is not Mos Eisley. We're more like Cloud City: Yes corrupt bargains get made, but the place produces things and actually works.

/"Stay on Target!"

...and leaders who are secretly in cahoots with the right hand man of the leader of a galaxy-spanning empire?

33 Jack Burton  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:48:15pm

re: #30 Fenway_Nation

Same forecast as Stratos.

34 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:48:49pm

re: #15 davinvalkri

Since this is an open thread, can I do some blatant self-advertising?

Please contribute to my running list!

Claiming the President is brainwashing children doesn't help. (I'm looking at you Michelle Malkin.)

35 davinvalkri  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:50:42pm

re: #34 Sharmuta

Claiming the President is brainwashing children doesn't help. (I'm looking at you Michelle Malkin.)

You don't mind if I edit the post to include your suggestion with credit, do you?

36 Cato the Elder  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:50:57pm

For anyone who likes the Theo Bikel song in Yiddish I posted on the last thread, I just discovered that more than a dozen of his old albums are now available on iTunes.

If you want to get a real sense of just how versatile he is (he turned 85 this year), may I recommend "An Actor's Holiday with Theodore Bikel"? Twenty-two songs in almost that many languages for $5.99.

37 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:51:44pm

w00t! White Russian time...

38 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:52:25pm

re: #35 davinvalkri

Feel free!

39 Jack Burton  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:52:57pm

re: #34 Sharmuta

Claiming the President is brainwashing children doesn't help. (I'm looking at you Michelle Malkin.)

But but... ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOBAMA!

40 Sharmuta  Thu, Oct 1, 2009 11:53:41pm

Saying we should slit our wrists and be blood brothers to save America doesn't help. (I'm looking at you Michele Bachmann.)

41 Jimmah  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:00:16am

Chung King

42 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:01:22am

re: #39 ArchangelMichael

But but... ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOBAMA!

43 TheMatrix31  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:02:22am

I hope Chicago gets the games. Why? Because I'm sick and fucking tired of dealing with terrible TV times to watch live events.

44 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:03:41am

re: #43 TheMatrix31

I hope Chicago gets the games. Why? Because I'm sick and fucking tired of dealing with terrible TV times to watch live events.

Rio wouldn't be bad in that regard. It's in the same time zone as New York.

45 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:04:37am

I'm going to bed. Goodnight, all. Stay strong!

46 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:05:05am

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

G'nite, dark!

47 TheMatrix31  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:05:45am

re: #44 Dark_Falcon

Oh it is? I coulda sworn Rio was like, 6 hours ahead.

That's fine then. Go Rio!

48 davinvalkri  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:06:52am

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

I'm going to bed. Goodnight, all. Stay strong!

I should probably go to bed too. Dang midterms next week. Good night!

49 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:11:27am

re: #15 davinvalkri

Since this is an open thread, can I do some blatant self-advertising?

Please contribute to my running list!

Claiming that I eat entire humans, when I only snack on the juicy soul part, doesn't help. (I'm looking at you, Howard Phillips Lovecraft).

/wait, what?

50 Jimmah  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:14:29am

Gas mask bra traps Ig Nobel prize

Designers of a bra that turns into gas masks and a team who found that named cows produce more milk were among the winners of the 2009 Ig Nobel prizes.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

51 TnTx13  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:14:55am

re: #47 TheMatrix31

Oh it is? I coulda sworn Rio was like, 6 hours ahead.

That's fine then. Go Rio!

Actually, Rio is two hours ahead of New York... Still better than, say, China!

52 Areozol  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:15:56am

Today Irish people are voting in referendum about rejecting or approving The Lisbon Treaty.

I have a mixed feelings about this mammoth piece of international law. But I can't stand two facts: that Eurocrats apparently don't care what nearly 400 milions people are thinking about it (Irland is the only country where referendum is held about the treaty), and how kooks from NWO conspiracy are going crazy about EU.

53 akarra  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:16:48am

re: #6 redc1c4

Clever, although I knew a few people into boating: there's a lot of knowledge and skill involved, I'm jealous of the knots people can make to tie sails and the gauging of the wind and all that.

There are some interesting stories about Bill Buckley and sailing, one of which is recounted by Garry Wills.

54 TheMatrix31  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:16:58am

re: #51 TnTx13

Ya, six hours head of me in LA I thought. Five hours ahead, eh...Chicago is two.

I don't know, Tokyo would be cool but the times would be God-awful. I remember trying to watch the 2002 World Cup. Not good.

55 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:17:38am

re: #29 ArchangelMichael

I hear Sao Paulo is (or was) pretty brutal. That's where Sepultura hails from.

56 freetoken  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:17:56am

re: #52 Areozol

Well, it is a vote to adopt a new constitution of sorts... and this follows on the heels of previous attempts that were voted down in some countries two years ago.

57 Jack Burton  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:19:02am

Before I go to bed, I present...

The Greatest Rousing Speech and Cavalry Charge... EVAR!

58 akarra  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:20:50am

re: #52 Areozol

It's like the complexity of issues has gotten people to say to themselves "let's stop thinking, let's just dive into conspiracy theory, there has to be a simple explanation for all of this," or to brazenly assert authority they already have.

Of course globalization and science and such are not to blame: at all times things have gotten more complex. But I think it is safe to say there was a time when authority took higher goals seriously, and knew that there were trade-offs - i.e. politics wasn't just considered a refuge of crooks, but also something noble potentially - and there was a sense of shame among those who have become our worst offenders in terms of propagating conspiracy theory.

59 Jack Burton  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:23:38am

re: #58 akarra

The default mode of some people is: "If I don't understand how something works, it has to be evil, misguided, or a conspiracy of some kind to screw me."

60 akarra  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:24:10am

re: #23 ArchangelMichael

That's really well said. Another thing that might be added: while I wouldn't try to define conservatism, I'd say it has something to do with "conserving" something, probably things like manners or morals. Screaming oneself hoarse and getting paranoid undercuts tradition in the worst way: we respect tradition in large part because it helps make us better people.

61 Areozol  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:24:59am

re: #56 freetoken

Well, it is a vote to adopt a new constitution of sorts... and this follows on the heels of previous attempts that were voted down in some countries two years ago.

Well, imagine if US Constitution would be amended without consent of majority of the states.

But it DOES NOT validate wackos, who are ranting about Bildenberg-Illuminati-NWO Conspiracy. Thanks to the internet, the all wacky stuff that anti-vaccine crowd, David Icke crowd, NWO crowd etc. is saying is coming out in my country. I repeat: all is the same, and they strongly believe that all is true. I was shocked, how bloggers, whom I respected, had fallen to this crazyness.

62 TnTx13  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:29:14am

re: #54 TheMatrix31

Ya, six hours head of me in LA I thought. Five hours ahead, eh...Chicago is two.

I don't know, Tokyo would be cool but the times would be God-awful. I remember trying to watch the 2002 World Cup. Not good.

I should clarify - the source I'm looking at (timeticker.com) indicates that Rio is NOT on daylight savings time right now, but when everything is equal, Rio is two time zones ahead of New York, i.e. GMT - 3 hours, whereas NY is GMT -5 and Chicago is GMT -6. Still better than Tokyo, time-wise!

63 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:29:54am

re: #41 Jimmah

Chung King

Always time for more of them...

64 akarra  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:30:41am

re: #59 ArchangelMichael

I ranted about this at length in the blog, but I didn't quite hit at a "paranoid about knowledge" theme. I actually was thinking that they don't get how morality and knowledge relate, that you actually have to know something to be moral. People who really get into conspiracy theory seem to want a definite value to assert itself in the world, and when it doesn't, they think everything's corrupt, imo.

65 TheMatrix31  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:36:09am

Slimy bitch.

[Link: abclocal.go.com...]

66 akarra  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:37:25am

I'm outta here - it was wonderful reading your comments, thanks so much for talking a little bit!

67 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:38:44am

re: #63 iceweasel

Always time for more of them...


[Video]

sent you a mail. contact me please.

68 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:38:55am

Dots. DOTS!

69 Jimmah  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:41:41am

re: #63 iceweasel

Always time for more of them...


I'm loving this Kirk/Spock passion video genre :)

I found a song - great song actually (but terrible video) - that would be a great soundtrack for one of these vids:

70 freetoken  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:44:13am

It's definitely feeling like fall (秋) ...

71 sagehen  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 12:46:32am

I'm enjoying the Chicago presentation at IOC -- they're really stressing what a multicultural city it is, that locals of every language will be tour guides (and food guides) for visitors, will personally take good care of athletes' families... and the compact nature and excellent public transit of the city, how easy it will be for people in the different locations to get to each other.

(Michelle's speech seemed somewhat off-topic, all about how her father was such a sports nut and it would mean so much to her to bring the games to his city... too personal. Barak's speech was a little too 'because it's my favorite city and that's why you should love it too', and the reference to Grant Park on election night was somewhat gratuitous, but if he's still as popular overseas as he was during the campaign his pitch might be persuasive).

72 Jimmah  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 1:00:50am

White lines (don't do it) :

73 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 1:05:17am

re: #69 Jimmah

I'm loving this Kirk/Spock passion video genre :)

I found a song - great song actually (but terrible video) - that would be a great soundtrack for one of these vids:


[Video]

The atheists' love song, Jimmah-ski. :-)

I think this genre could be endlessly fruitful for us...

74 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 1:05:39am

The Full Mental Wingnut Blogosphere.

Someone should start up an annual Busey Awards contest.

75 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 1:11:44am

re: #72 Jimmah

Cannot find the appropriate "Shaun of the Dead" clip. Bummer.

76 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 1:33:48am

NSFW

Two seconds.

G'nite, Lizards.

77 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 1:38:55am

Downright tranquil compared to last night.

78 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:04:00am

re: #72 Jimmah

White lines (don't do it) :


[Video]

I think we'll have to watch Sean of the Dead soon. :)

I'm back for more canoodling now. Also hoping to work in some gallivanting.

79 Jimmah  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:07:14am

re: #73 iceweasel

The atheists' love song, Jimmah-ski. :-)

I think this genre could be endlessly fruitful for us...


[Video]

I get the feeling that we are just exploring the outer peninsula of a vast continent of passion here with these vids, iceweasel ;-)

80 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:08:20am

re: #68 Slumbering Behemoth

Dots. DOTS!

Oh, crap. It's like digital bubble wrap. Hard to stop once you get started.

81 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:09:50am

re: #65 TheMatrix31

Slimy bitch.

[Link: abclocal.go.com...]

Agree.

Even slimier, because the only reason we're hearing about it is his testimony before a grand jury was going to make it public anyway, and he wanted to get his own spin on it first.

82 freetoken  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:10:06am

re: #79 Jimmah

...we are just exploring the outer peninsula of a vast continent of passion here with these vids...

Now this is a vast continent of passion...

83 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:12:24am

re: #79 Jimmah

I get the feeling that we are just exploring the outer peninsula of a vast continent of passion here with these vids, iceweasel ;-)


Outer peninsula?
heh. he said 'peninsula'.

Indeed, Jimmah-ski, there is a vast continent before us to explore and plunder.

84 Jimmah  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:21:13am

re: #78 iceweasel

I think we'll have to watch Sean of the Dead soon. :)

I'm back for more canoodling now. Also hoping to work in some gallivanting.


We certainly do have to watch that one :) Love that the soundtrack on that video is by 'Ash'. Speaking of which, here's one for you, ice-ski:

85 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:32:20am

re: #84 Jimmah

We certainly do have to watch that one :) Love that the soundtrack on that video is by 'Ash'. Speaking of which, here's one for you, ice-ski:


I love Ash. As you well know, Jim-ski.

86 Bagua  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:32:27am

re: #68 Slumbering Behemoth

Dots. DOTS!

Dammit, now I wont get anything done on the 'puter.

87 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:33:58am

re: #81 SixDegrees

Agree.

Even slimier, because the only reason we're hearing about it is his testimony before a grand jury was going to make it public anyway, and he wanted to get his own spin on it first.

Meh, I'm not disturbed by this. He had consensual sex with adults. It's his business -- and his family's. I don't really want to know about it.

Letterman is a douchebag anyway, but for other reasons. IMO.

88 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:38:30am

re: #87 iceweasel

Meh, I'm not disturbed by this. He had consensual sex with adults. It's his business -- and his family's. I don't really want to know about it.

Letterman is a douchebag anyway, but for other reasons. IMO.

I suppose we'll find out whether it was consensual or not. All too often, in cases involving someone of Letterman's fame and position, "consensual" is an enormous stretch.

89 Velvet Elvis  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:44:34am

re: #83 iceweasel

this is scaring me

I'm going to bed

I had no idea this stuff existed though I'd bumped up against the slashfic. If you find any Angel/Spike ones my gf wants to see them. I'm passing out now..

90 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:45:16am

re: #88 SixDegrees

I suppose we'll find out whether it was consensual or not. All too often, in cases involving someone of Letterman's fame and position, "consensual" is an enormous stretch.

Hmmm, yes, but it's (supposedly) adult women who worked for him, and it seems significant that it came out because someone (else) was trying to blackmail him, not because one of the women was filing a sexual harassment complaint. (but who's to say we won't find out about prior incidents where it was harassment and the woman was paid off.)

You're right, but it's also often true that for someone of Letterman's fame and position, women are lining up. Even though he's a douchebag.

91 Jimmah  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:52:07am

re: #85 iceweasel

I love Ash. As you well know, Jim-ski.

Yes, great band, ice-ski. They have a terrible secret video btw - so terrible that the producer of it apparently tacked a note to the fonished tape that said "I think I've killed bambi" - must show you that one sometime :)

Hey, I think I found another potential song for one of these videos :

92 Jimmah  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:53:31am

re: #86 Bagua

Dammit, now I wont get anything done on the 'puter.

I'm trying to see if I can make a portrait of Obama with mine. ;-)

93 Bagua  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:54:30am

re: #88 SixDegrees

I suppose we'll find out whether it was consensual or not. All too often, in cases involving someone of Letterman's fame and position, "consensual" is an enormous stretch.

Unless there were children involved it's merely infidelity and bad behaviour.

He's a comedian, the other people working his show didn't have a doctor/patient relationship with him.

What's the point of being a TV star if one doesn't get a little nookie on the side?

94 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:57:06am

re: #92 Jimmah

I'm trying to see if I can make a portrait of Obama with mine. ;-)


Bad Paintings of Barack Obama

Click, and click on...if you dare!

95 Bagua  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:58:11am

re: #92 Jimmah

I'm trying to see if I can make a portrait of Obama with mine. ;-)

Wow, you set the bar high. I'm just trying to manage a rectangle.

96 centaur  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:00:38am

Chicago contingent being questioned by the IOC right now. Sorry -- Emperor Daley is speaking now -- I cannot stand that man. I've resolved to the fact the we're getting the games. Ugh. I'll be out of town that week(s) and, yes, likely hypocritically enjoy them on TV.

97 centaur  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:01:53am

re: #94 iceweasel

That's just wrong. Sorry I clicked.

98 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:05:46am

re: #97 centaur

That's just wrong. Sorry I clicked.

This might help.

For victims of ODS

For Obama cultists.

Something for everyone!

99 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:06:57am

re: #93 Bagua

Unless there were children involved it's merely infidelity and bad behaviour.

He's a comedian, the other people working his show didn't have a doctor/patient relationship with him.

What's the point of being a TV star if one doesn't get a little nookie on the side?

Depends on what the arrangements were. A little nookie that comes after a statement like, "Put out, or you'll never work in this industry again" tends to stray past simple bad behavior. That's why every business I've ever worked for has explicit rules pertaining to sexual harassment, with particular mention being made of supervisor/supervisee relations.

I'm not saying this is actually the case here; just that we don't know, and that if it turns out to be so it wouldn't surprise me at all.

100 freetoken  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:10:06am

re: #99 SixDegrees

"No dipping the corporate pen into the corporate ink-well" - I was told was the saying...

101 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:10:38am

re: #90 iceweasel

Hmmm, yes, but it's (supposedly) adult women who worked for him, and it seems significant that it came out because someone (else) was trying to blackmail him, not because one of the women was filing a sexual harassment complaint. (but who's to say we won't find out about prior incidents where it was harassment and the woman was paid off.)

You're right, but it's also often true that for someone of Letterman's fame and position, women are lining up. Even though he's a douchebag.

We'll see. These are staff members we're talking about, though, not casual acquaintances. This sets off alarm bells in any company, and it does for me as well.

102 Jimmah  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:14:15am

re: #94 iceweasel


Bad Paintings of Barack Obama

Click, and click on...if you dare!

Bookmarked! Absolutely hilarious :)

103 soxfan4life  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:14:58am

re: #87 iceweasel

How soon until he turns on the tears and announces he's going to rehab? And how many celebrities haven't figured out rehab can't cure you of being an idiot?

104 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:16:25am

re: #101 SixDegrees

We'll see. These are staff members we're talking about, though, not casual acquaintances. This sets off alarm bells in any company, and it does for me as well.

Oh yeah. Not cool. But...in reality, lots of relationships start because of work, no matter how many rules there are against it. Some are about harassment, for sure (and aren't 'relationships') -- but lots are consensual, even if illicit.

There's probably a lot more dirt forthcoming, in any case.

105 Jimmah  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:16:46am

Limmy - nightmare

106 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:18:20am

re: #103 soxfan4life

How soon until he turns on the tears and announces he's going to rehab? And how many celebrities haven't figured out rehab can't cure you of being an idiot?

Hey soxfan! How are you? Don't think I've seen you in a while...weren't you moving and starting a new job? (forgive me if I misremember). Hope it's going well with you, in any case.

107 sagehen  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:19:05am

re: #89 Conservative Moonbat

this is scaring me

I'm going to bed

I had no idea this stuff existed though I'd bumped up against the slashfic. If you find any Angel/Spike ones my gf wants to see them. I'm passing out now..


Ask and you shall receive

(nothing against any of these other pairings, but I'm rather partial to McKay/Sheppard).

108 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:21:09am

re: #104 iceweasel

Oh yeah. Not cool. But...in reality, lots of relationships start because of work, no matter how many rules there are against it. Some are about harassment, for sure (and aren't 'relationships') -- but lots are consensual, even if illicit.

There's probably a lot more dirt forthcoming, in any case.

And lots turn out to be harassing and abusive. Enough that nearly all companies have explicit rules governing such behavior and complaint procedures for victims to follow, even though such measures are not completely effective.

109 Fart Knocker  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:22:41am

Good Morning Lizards.

110 sagehen  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:23:33am

re: #94 iceweasel


Bad Paintings of Barack Obama

Click, and click on...if you dare!


Even worse:

Obama Naked with Unicorns

111 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:26:41am

re: #110 sagehen

Even worse:

Obama Naked with Unicorns

No way, damn you...I've seen that, and I can't unsee it. No way am I clicking that!

re: #105 Jimmah

Here, we have to do this. And I have this courtesy of sagehen too, come to think of it.

112 soxfan4life  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:31:27am

re: #106 iceweasel

Yes moved to Killeen TX from central MA. Work schedule keeps me pretty busy thus giving me less time to hang out on the net. Hope all is well with you.

113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:31:35am

It is of course well known that careless talk costs lives, but the full scale of the problem is not always appreciated. For instance, at the very moment that Arthur Dent said "I wouldn't want to go anywhere without my wonderful towel," a freak wormhole opened up in the fabric of the space-time continuum and carried his words far far back in time across almost infinite reaches of space to a distant Galaxy where strange and warlike beings were poised on the brink of frightful interstellar battle. The two opposing leaders, resplendent in their black jewelled battle shorts, were meeting for the last time, when, a dreadful silence fell, and, at that very moment, the words, "I wouldn't want to go anywhere without my wonderful towel" drifted across the conference table. Unfortunately, in their native tongue, this was the most appalling insult imaginable, so the two opposing battle fleets decided to settle their few remaining differences in order to launch a joint attack on our galaxy, now positively identified as the source of the offending remark. For thousands of years the mighty starships tore across the empty wastes of space and finally dived screaming on to the planet Earth - where, due to a terrible miscalculation of scale, the entire battle fleet was accidentally swallowed by a small dog. Those who study the complex interplay of cause and effect in the history of the Universe say that this sort of thing is going on all the time.

114 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:32:48am

re: #113 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Oops.. didn't mean to post that... copied and pasted it there to read it...

Well, if you want a little giggle, go ahead and read it...

115 centaur  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:33:49am

re: #98 iceweaselre: #114 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Well I'm glad you did. Now, I just my reread through that book today.

116 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:34:25am

There is a recent video of Gilad Shalit alive and talking.

117 centaur  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:34:42am

meant only to reply to FBV ...

118 freetoken  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:36:11am

The "Ardi" article at USAToday:

[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

... currently has 1965 comments.

Wow. Definitely a hot topic on the 'net.

119 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:36:54am

re: #112 soxfan4life

Yes moved to Killeen TX from central MA. Work schedule keeps me pretty busy thus giving me less time to hang out on the net. Hope all is well with you.

Wow, I thought I remembered you were moving for work but didn't remember it was such a major distance. Congrats! Hope you and yours are happy there.

I'm just fine, thanks.

120 soxfan4life  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:40:20am

re: #119 iceweasel

Now that there is a touch of fall in the New England air, it makes the 2,000 mile move seem worth it. When the white stuff falls it will really seem worth it.

121 freetoken  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:43:11am

Want to make a decent income? You could go into the seminar business!

The Truth Project

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[...]

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[...]

Gee, if they can get $99 for a few hours on a Saturday to discuss God's design for science, I'd say Charles is significantly underpricing the daily seminar we call "LGF".

122 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:44:47am

re: #116 MandyManners

There is a recent video of Gilad Shalit alive and talking.

Family is viewing it now.

I think it sucks that Israel had to agree to release 20 attempted terrorist bombers just for a proof of life.

123 freetoken  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:46:40am

From The Truth Project's FAQ:

Want to know more about the 12 lessons featured on Focus on the Family's The Truth Project DVDs? [...]

Lesson 5 - Science: What is True?

Science, the "systematic study of the natural world," brings to light innumerable evidences of Intelligent Design. But Darwinian theory transforms science from the honest investigation of nature into a vehicle for propagating a godless philosophy. (Part One)

A careful examination of molecular biology and the fossil record demonstrates that evolution is not a "proven fact." Meanwhile, history shows that ideas, including Darwinism as a social philosophy, have definite consequences – consequences that can turn ugly when God is left out of the picture.

[...]

People pay $99 to hear this stuff...

124 soxfan4life  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:50:46am

re: #123 freetoken

From The Truth Project's FAQ:

People pay $99 to hear this stuff...

How much do people pay to hear any out of office politico speak? Or some obscure celebrity? All giving credence to the axiom a fool and his money are soon parted.

125 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:51:11am

re: #122 Alouette

Family is viewing it now.

I think it sucks that Israel had to agree to release 20 attempted terrorist bombers just for a proof of life.

The unfortunate truth is that there is practically a never-ending supply of Young Explorders available to take the place of the incarcerated. So the prisoners are negotiable.

126 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:51:37am

re: #122 Alouette

Family is viewing it now.

I think it sucks that Israel had to agree to release 20 attempted terrorist bombers just for a proof of life.

Thanks for the link! Yes, it sucks.

Is this the first time Israel has made a deal with the Jordyptians in Gaza? I mean, Hamas?

127 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:52:36am

re: #125 imp_62

The unfortunate truth is that there is practically a never-ending supply of Young Explorders available to take the place of the incarcerated. So the prisoners are negotiable.

Sounds like a twisted youth group.

128 soxfan4life  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:52:43am

re: #126 MandyManners

Thanks for the link! Yes, it sucks.

Is this the first time Israel has made a deal with the Jordyptians in Gaza? I mean, Hamas?

How soon until Jimmy Carter comes out in support of this move?

129 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:52:50am

re: #122 Alouette

Family is viewing it now.

I think it sucks that Israel had to agree to release 20 attempted terrorist bombers just for a proof of life.

I think it probably feeds the Islamofascist belief that Israel's spirit can eventually be broken through the use of subhuman tactics such as this gross abuse of Schalit.
As difficult as it may be, Israel must stop allowing its power to be mocked in this fashion.

130 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:54:51am

re: #127 MandyManners

Sounds like a twisted youth group.

The members have a short fuse.

131 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:57:18am

re: #129 Spare O'Lake

Israel will never allow remains or prisoners to stay in enemy hands for indefinite periods of time. That is part of what keeps the armed forces going - the knowledge that, dead or alive, they will be brought home.

It also reinforces the fact that one dead Israeli is worth dozens of live Arabs.

132 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:57:25am

re: #125 imp_62

The unfortunate truth is that there is practically a never-ending supply of Young Explorders available to take the place of the incarcerated. So the prisoners are negotiable.

Once again, the lesson learned by the Islamofascists is that terror pays.

133 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:58:34am
134 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:59:25am

re: #131 imp_62

And 132.

135 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:59:36am

re: #128 soxfan4life

How soon until Jimmy Carter comes out in support of this move?

It was the asshole's birthday yesterday.


136 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:01:01am

re: #132 Spare O'Lake

Once again, the lesson learned by the Islamofascists is that terror pays.

On its face, maybe. But the more subtle, destructive lesson that will ultimately undermine the Palestinian cause is that the lives of the people don't matter. Their will be a backlash against that, sooner or later. How long do you you thing Palestinians are going to be willing to look over the border at prosperity, freedom and wealth, which they only get to see in person when they go to blow themselves up in a market?

137 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:01:17am

re: #130 imp_62

The members have a short fuse.

I hear that they easily blow their tops.

138 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:03:29am

Dofferent topic: Why can't my teenage girls get themselves going in the morning wothout constant exhortations? My son gets himself up, makes his lunch, gets his sports gear, has breakfast, grunts good-bye, and leaves. All without any encouragement. The girls? Always running late, always need to be reminded of the time...

139 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:04:21am

re: #138 imp_62

Dofferent topic: Why can't my teenage girls get themselves going in the morning wothout constant exhortations? My son gets himself up, makes his lunch, gets his sports gear, has breakfast, grunts good-bye, and leaves. All without any encouragement. The girls? Always running late, always need to be reminded of the time...

Have you considered stepping back and letting them suffer the consequences?

140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:04:39am

re: #138 imp_62

'Cause boys are more responsible than girls.

(runs away laughing!)

141 Jimmah  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:05:34am

re: #111 iceweasel

No way, damn you...I've seen that, and I can't unsee it. No way am I clicking that!

re: #105 Jimmah

Here, we have to do this. And I have this courtesy of sagehen too, come to think of it.


re: #111 iceweasel

No way, damn you...I've seen that, and I can't unsee it. No way am I clicking that!

re: #105 Jimmah

Here, we have to do this. And I have this courtesy of sagehen too, come to think of it.


I would have posted the Barak Obama song by 'Dutch' but I've been playing that a bit too much lately, so - something else , not as hilariously cheesy, but close...

142 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:06:10am

re: #139 MandyManners

Unfortunately, the consequence of a missed schoolbus is Dad driving when I should be going through my overnight email load. I threaten to make them walk, but they know I won't follow through if it is cold/wet/windy/they beg their daddy.

143 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:07:01am

re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

'Cause boys are more responsible than girls.

(runs away laughing!)

In fact, it is because he detests conversation and realized a while ago the best way to avoid it is to do everything in a timely, efficient and complete manner.

144 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:07:51am

re: #137 MandyManners

It is their fiery dispositions.

145 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:08:45am

re: #142 imp_62

Unfortunately, the consequence of a missed schoolbus is Dad driving when I should be going through my overnight email load. I threaten to make them walk, but they know I won't follow through if it is cold/wet/windy/they beg their daddy.

One thing is for sure, dad...it's all your fault.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

146 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:09:03am

re: #142 imp_62

Unfortunately, the consequence of a missed schoolbus is Dad driving when I should be going through my overnight email load. I threaten to make them walk, but they know I won't follow through if it is cold/wet/windy/they beg their daddy.

Well, there you go. Time to call their bluff and carry through with your threat?

147 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:09:33am

re: #145 Spare O'Lake

Tell me about it. BTW are you always this hyper so early in the morning lol?

148 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:10:31am

re: #146 MandyManners

Well, there you go. Time to call their bluff and carry through with your threat?

And live with knowing my babies are getting wet or cold? They know it is never going to happen. One day though... POW! To the moon...

149 sagehen  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:11:35am

re: #138 imp_62

Dofferent topic: Why can't my teenage girls get themselves going in the morning wothout constant exhortations? My son gets himself up, makes his lunch, gets his sports gear, has breakfast, grunts good-bye, and leaves. All without any encouragement. The girls? Always running late, always need to be reminded of the time...

Clearly they're not getting enough sleep. The need their curfew/bedtime moved up half an hour for each time they can't manage a morning.

(alternatively, if they're the kind of girls for whom this would be "punishment"... muse aloud that jeans and t-shirts and no makeup and messy hair is the fastest way to get going in the morning. Hey, if they don't have time to get spiffy, then they just don't have time.)

150 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:13:44am

re: #149 sagehen

Clearly they're not getting enough sleep. The need their curfew/bedtime moved up half an hour for each time they can't manage a morning.

(alternatively, if they're the kind of girls for whom this would be "punishment"... muse aloud that jeans and t-shirts and no makeup and messy hair is the fastest way to get going in the morning. Hey, if they don't have time to get spiffy, then they just don't have time.)

The eldest is certainly not getting enough sleep. She is working hard to keep her grades up while she applies to college, and it is hard to argue with her commitment. If she were up messaging or on the phone it would be easy to take a hard tack, but she is working really hard. The youngest is just getting into a bad pattern, so I do have to take some remedial action.

151 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:14:17am

re: #144 imp_62

It is their fiery dispositions.

And their bombastic personalities.

152 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:15:29am

re: #147 imp_62

Tell me about it. BTW are you always this hyper so early in the morning lol?

The fucking Islamofascists do that to me. One look at the morning ME news usually puts me on the ceiling.

153 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:15:35am

re: #151 MandyManners

And their bombastic personalities.

They have a tendency to be very expansive in a crowd.

154 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:15:59am

re: #148 imp_62

And live with knowing my babies are getting wet or cold? They know it is never going to happen. One day though... POW! To the moon...

Wet and cold for a few hours v. aggravating the snot out of you for how many years?

At least they are within walking distance. I have to drive close to 50 miles round trip to get The Kid to school. I found one way to cut down on the time at home was to have him brush his teeth and take his medicine in the car.

155 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:16:54am

re: #152 Spare O'Lake

The fucking Islamofascists do that to me. One look at the morning ME news usually puts me on the ceiling.

You have to ease into it. Nobody can take a full dose of ME news before the caffeine hits their system. Paper, email, LGF, then the hard news. Your system can't take the shock otherwise.

156 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:18:04am

re: #154 MandyManners

Wet and cold for a few hours v. aggravating the snot out of you for how many years?

At least they are within walking distance. I have to drive close to 50 miles round trip to get The Kid to school. I found one way to cut down on the time at home was to have him brush his teeth and take his medicine in the car.

50 miles is definitely a major bummer. Are you in the States and driving your kid to Canada for school??

157 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:18:37am

re: #141 Jimmah

I would have posted the Barak Obama song by 'Dutch' but I've been playing that a bit too much lately, so - something else , not as hilariously cheesy, but close...

Oh yeah? Take THIS!

158 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:19:43am

re: #153 imp_62

I have to stop with the puns here.

159 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:20:48am

re: #158 MandyManners

I have to stop with the puns here.

Aw, already? It was a big suicide bomber pun blowout!

160 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:20:55am

re: #156 imp_62

50 miles is definitely a major bummer. Are you in the States and driving your kid to Canada for school??

Nah. Just from our hamlet to his private school. The local public school is about five minutes away but, it ain't worth the convenience.

161 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:21:22am

re: #159 imp_62

Aw, already? It was a big suicide bomber pun blowout!

*groan*

162 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:21:55am

re: #155 imp_62

You have to ease into it. Nobody can take a full dose of ME news before the caffeine hits their system. Paper, email, LGF, then the hard news. Your system can't take the shock otherwise.

You have no idea. I need to stop caring so much about Israel. ///

163 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:23:41am

re: #162 Spare O'Lake

You have no idea. I need to stop caring so much about Israel. ///

I care about the Jordyptians who want nothing else but to raise their families and get on with life. I especially care about the kids. Gosh, what a rotten fate to be born into that culture.

164 gregb  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:25:59am

re: #133 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sad. Very sad. Anybody feeling sad about this?

Amusing ourselves to death by drowning in a sea of irrelevance.

Image: 200905amusingourselvest.png

165 Jimmah  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:26:41am

re: #157 iceweasel

Oh yeah? Take THIS!


You dropped the bomb there, ice-ski :) Don't think I'll ever be quite the same again...

Image: 1396214591_8732cbcb9b.jpg

166 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:27:42am

re: #163 MandyManners

I care about the Jordyptians who want nothing else but to raise their families and get on with life. I especially care about the kids. Gosh, what a rotten fate to be born into that culture.

re: #162 Spare O'Lake

You have no idea. I need to stop caring so much about Israel. ///

I care deeply about Israel, and I feel very badly for the kids who think it is great entertainment to skip school to watch Hamas shoot mortars at civilians. But as a culture and society, the Palestinians have to step up and take responsibility. You can't just send your kids to camp and allow them to be indoctrinated in a life-denying fatalistic anti-Semitic anti-West political philosophy. Or to a school that denies those bits of history that you find inconvenient. That is the individual responsibility of every parent.

167 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:29:43am

re: #164 gregb

Amusing ourselves to death by drowning in a sea of irrelevance.

[Link: img40.imageshack.us...]

I think Huxley won out.

168 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:31:20am

re: #164 gregb

Amusing ourselves to death by drowning in a sea of irrelevance.

[Link: img40.imageshack.us...]

I think both Huxley and Orwell ended up correctly predicting the state of society today.

169 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:31:25am

re: #166 imp_62

I care deeply about Israel, and I feel very badly for the kids who think it is great entertainment to skip school to watch Hamas shoot mortars at civilians. But as a culture and society, the Palestinians have to step up and take responsibility. You can't just send your kids to camp and allow them to be indoctrinated in a life-denying fatalistic anti-Semitic anti-West political philosophy. Or to a school that denies those bits of history that you find inconvenient. That is the individual responsibility of every parent.

I try to keep these things in mind just to remind me that, for all his nonsense, I have it good raising The Kid in freedom.

170 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:32:22am

re: #169 MandyManners

Or at least, comparative freedom...

171 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:32:54am

re: #168 imp_62

I think both Huxley and Orwell ended up correctly predicting the state of society today.

Does the state inflict pain on those who refuse to go along with the official line? Is information hidden from us?

172 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:33:18am

re: #143 imp_62

In fact, it is because he detests conversation and realized a while ago the best way to avoid it is to do everything in a timely, efficient and complete manner.

Ahhh! Future engineer...

173 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:33:30am

re: #170 imp_62

Or at least, comparative freedom...

True but, only anarchy offers total freedom.

174 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:33:59am
175 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:34:24am

Speaking of The Kid, gotta' go roll him out.

176 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:35:28am

re: #174 MandyManners

Not too sure about WAB using her dead dad as a talking point in Copenhagen.

Not a fan of that nickname for the First Lady. Sorry. Tacky.

177 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:35:47am

re: #174 MandyManners

WAB?re: #171 MandyManners

Does the state inflict pain on those who refuse to go along with the official line? Is information hidden from us?

Pain... Not sure. Is information hidden? Certainly. And I do not say this in a conspiracy theory, black helicopter sense, but in a "the Iranians have a reactor we hae known about for years" sense.

178 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:36:31am

re: #173 MandyManners

True but, only anarchy offers total freedom.

Total freedom is often prelude or pretext for a lack of freedom.

179 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:37:00am

re: #177 imp_62

WAB?re: #171 MandyManners


Pain... Not sure. Is information hidden? Certainly. And I do not say this in a conspiracy theory, black helicopter sense, but in a "the Iranians have a reactor we hae known about for years" sense.

Couldn't intelligent people who follow the news figure that out for themselves before it's officially announced?

180 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:37:05am

re: #172 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ahhh! Future engineer...

In fact, you are probably correct! Are these persona;lity traits an indicator?

181 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:38:22am

re: #178 imp_62

Total freedom is often prelude or pretext for a lack of freedom.

That's why I prefer negative liberty to positive liberty.

182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:38:46am
183 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:39:27am

re: #163 MandyManners

I care about the Jordyptians who want nothing else but to raise their families and get on with life. I especially care about the kids. Gosh, what a rotten fate to be born into that culture.

Honestly, after all these years I have very little left inside me for them.
I just want the murderous sick twisted Islamofascist terrorist fucks to leave Israel alone in peace.
*pipe dream*

184 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:39:53am

re: #179 MandyManners

Doubtful. I do believe there is plenty going on we just don't know about. In some cases, this is a function of national security. In others, a function of the patronizing nanny state. And before I am outed - yes, I am a slightly Libertarian leaning Federalist. But I do believe in a strong foreign policy component of federal government, and I believe that every country/people have a responsibility toward the international community.

185 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:40:34am

re: #181 MandyManners

That's why I prefer negative liberty to positive liberty.

You'll have to explain after your school run.

186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:41:23am

re: #180 imp_62

When I am at an engineers home (I am a kitchen designer) I always have to say to the engineer...

"Arguing with an engineer is like mud wrestling with a pig. After a half hour, you're dirty, you're exhausted, you're sweaty, and you're frustrated. Only to look over and see that the pig has been enjoying it the whole time."

Of course, I do not say that to Muslim Engineers (not that I've ever met one)...

187 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:42:56am

re: #186 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

When I am at an engineers home (I am a kitchen designer) I always have to say to the engineer...

"Arguing with an engineer is like mud wrestling with a pig. After a half hour, you're dirty, you're exhausted, you're sweaty, and you're frustrated. Only to look over and see that the pig has been enjoying it the whole time."

Of course, I do not say that to Muslim Engineers (not that I've ever met one)...

I will have to tell my son this one. And I will have to consult with you on kitchen redesign once the money is in place.

188 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:43:37am

re: #182 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Good link - I added it to favorites.

189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:43:47am

re: #184 imp_62

But I do believe in a strong foreign policy component of federal government, and I believe that every country/people have a responsibility toward the international community.

If you add on to that, this little amendment...

"After we have taken care of ourselves..."


You'll have me completely on your side.

"I gotta take care of me and mine."
-Oh Brother, Where Art Thou

190 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:44:47am

re: #183 Spare O'Lake

Honestly, after all these years I have very little left inside me for them.
I just want the murderous sick twisted Islamofascist terrorist fucks to leave Israel alone in peace.
*pipe dream*

Part of me thinks that one way that that will happen is for the people to get fed up with their privations and depravations.

191 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:44:54am

re: #188 imp_62

Careful, there are hundreds of pictures there, each on genius in its Darwinism... you will come out bleary eyed four hours later...

192 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:45:47am

re: #184 imp_62

Doubtful. I do believe there is plenty going on we just don't know about. In some cases, this is a function of national security. In others, a function of the patronizing nanny state. And before I am outed - yes, I am a slightly Libertarian leaning Federalist. But I do believe in a strong foreign policy component of federal government, and I believe that every country/people have a responsibility toward the international community.


I think a naiton's first priority is to its citizens.

193 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:46:16am

re: #189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

You'll have me completely on your side.

"I gotta take care of me and mine."
-Oh Brother, Where Art Thou

I think there is an ongoing dynamic between taking care of ourselves and others. Tending our foreign policy garden is as important as tending our domestic policy garden. If we are engaged with others, we can more accurately judge, and perhaps even guide, their intentions. Or, if they refuse engagement, blow them the f**k up, if necessary.

194 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:46:46am

re: #185 imp_62

You'll have to explain after your school run.

The Constitution was framed around negative liberty but BHO thinks that was wrong, that positive liberty should reign.

195 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:47:44am

re: #194 MandyManners

The Constitution was framed around negative liberty but BHO thinks that was wrong, that positive liberty should reign.

Two sides of the same coin that reflect the reality of human nature, methinks.

196 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:49:52am

re: #195 imp_62

Two sides of the same coin that reflect the reality of human nature, methinks.

Negative liberty keeps the government from interfering in individual lives. Positive liberty promotes that interference.

197 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:50:31am

re: #192 MandyManners

I think a naiton's first priority is to its citizens.

Agreed. That is the nature of the social contract. But inward-looking politics and policies do not serve the best interests of the citizenry. Even the founding fathers and early presidents had to recognize that when they dispatched representatives to France and England, and the Marines to the "shores of Tripoli".

198 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:51:13am

TGIF.
Gotta run...laters gators.

199 gregb  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:51:32am

From the news this morning, I though this looked fishy. Both are copyrighted in 2009. So either:

a) Iran has been building like mad since January(?) when DigitalGlobe/GeoEye took the picture for Google
b) Google "erased" some of the pieces--there is some small pixelation off to the right of the two structures, but that could just be random edge integration--I wonder if they were asked to do so?
c) The Sept 09 Reuters pic is fake, but I don't think so.

Image: reuters-google-iran-gb.jpg

200 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:51:46am

re: #197 imp_62

Agreed. That is the nature of the social contract. But inward-looking politics and policies do not serve the best interests of the citizenry. Even the founding fathers and early presidents had to recognize that when they dispatched representatives to France and England, and the Marines to the "shores of Tripoli".

Oh, I'm no isolationist. But, I find abhorent the idea of conforming our laws to international laws.

201 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:53:09am

re: #196 MandyManners

The only reason to elect a government is to allow it to promote certain elements of the welfare of the citizenry through the enactment of a set of laws, or legislated positive acts. The fact that government has grown to big, and legislators to blated with self-interest, is a separate problem.

202 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:53:40am

re: #198 Spare O'Lake

Toodles

203 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:55:16am

re: #200 MandyManners

Oh, I'm no isolationist. But, I find abhorent the idea of conforming our laws to international laws.

Certain laws are universally acceptable and benefit our citizens and corporate interests abroad. I shouldn't confuse the UN with an acceptable framework of international law, however.

204 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:56:52am

re: #199 gregb

From the news this morning, I though this looked fishy. Both are copyrighted in 2009. So either:

a) Iran has been building like mad since January(?) when DigitalGlobe/GeoEye took the picture for Google
b) Google "erased" some of the pieces--there is some small pixelation off to the right of the two structures, but that could just be random edge integration--I wonder if they were asked to do so?
c) The Sept 09 Reuters pic is fake, but I don't think so.

[Link: www.bolcer.org...]

Oh, Iran undoubtedly has been a busy beaver.

Are beavers haram?

205 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:57:45am

re: #199 gregb

From the news this morning, I though this looked fishy. Both are copyrighted in 2009. So either:

a) Iran has been building like mad since January(?) when DigitalGlobe/GeoEye took the picture for Google
b) Google "erased" some of the pieces--there is some small pixelation off to the right of the two structures, but that could just be random edge integration--I wonder if they were asked to do so?
c) The Sept 09 Reuters pic is fake, but I don't think so.

[Link: www.bolcer.org...]

Google often responds to requests by governments to block or alter pictures of areas deemed to be sensitive for security reasons. No doubt the earlier picture is similar to the one intelligence analysts have been looking at for a while. Nice post on bolcer.org, though. Thanks.

206 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:57:58am

Leopard and Zebra Print Snuggies are available now!

207 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:58:21am

great spoof of the Chicago Olympics bid over at PJM...pretty funny

208 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:58:24am

w00t

The odometer didn't roll over.

209 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:59:58am

re: #201 imp_62

The only reason to elect a government is to allow it to promote certain elements of the welfare of the citizenry through the enactment of a set of laws, or legislated positive acts. The fact that government has grown to big, and legislators to blated with self-interest, is a separate problem.


That government is best which governs least.

210 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:00:45am

re: #209 MandyManners

That government is best which governs least.

I agree. We might disagree over the acceptable "least", though. But not by much :)

211 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:01:08am

re: #209 MandyManners

That government is best which governs least.

...and sticks to its constitutional mandates...

212 TheRealThing  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:02:31am

Little time this morning and yes I am new. Still do not understand the rather clear group attacks on singled out posters. Seems not conductive to even handed back and forth debate. Just my take on it as an new poster. Makes it a bit scary to enter the discussions.

213 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:04:04am

re: #203 imp_62

Certain laws are universally acceptable and benefit our citizens and corporate interests abroad. I shouldn't confuse the UN with an acceptable framework of international law, however.

One example of an acceptable international law is the treaty that allows for the retrieval of kids who are taken by a non-custodial parent to another nation. In the U.S., the states usually label it the Uniform Child Custody Jurisdiction and Enforcement Act.

214 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:05:11am

I've been spending the whole morning cooking for the Sukkot holiday which starts here in a few hours. So far I have made:

Brisket
Gefilte fish
Chicken soup (still have to make the noodles & matzah balls)
Stuffed cabbage lasagna
Sweet potato casserole (like sweet potato pie w/o the crust)
Pasta salad with olives

And now, I'm pooped.

My son-in-law is doing the dishes and mopping the floor.

My daughter has promised to stop complaining and just enjoy herself for the rest of the holiday.

Tonight we are having a bunch of guests in the sukkah in honor of my grandson's "Shalom Zachor" a festive gathering for a newborn son's first Sabbath.

215 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:05:20am

re: #212 TheRealThing

Little time this morning and yes I am new. Still do not understand the rather clear group attacks on singled out posters. Seems not conductive to even handed back and forth debate. Just my take on it as an new poster. Makes it a bit scary to enter the discussions.

Ahh, this place is no worse (and in many ways better) than other forums you might belong to! Hop in, state an opinion, defend it, enjoy the dialogue. It's a decent group of people with good hearts - except me. I'm pretty heartless.

Welcome, enjoy.

216 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:05:23am

re: #210 imp_62

I agree. We might disagree over the acceptable "least", though. But not by much :)

Totalitarianism is based on positive liberty.

217 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:06:17am

re: #211 Taqyia2Me

...and sticks to its constitutional mandates...

The Interstate Commerce Clause has been twisted to the point that I doubt Jefferson, et al., would recognize it.

218 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:06:34am

re: #214 Alouette

I've been spending the whole morning cooking for the Sukkot holiday which starts here in a few hours. So far I have made:

Brisket
Gefilte fish
Chicken soup (still have to make the noodles & matzah balls)
Stuffed cabbage lasagna
Sweet potato casserole (like sweet potato pie w/o the crust)
Pasta salad with olives

And now, I'm pooped.

My son-in-law is doing the dishes and mopping the floor.

My daughter has promised to stop complaining and just enjoy herself for the rest of the holiday.

Tonight we are having a bunch of guests in the sukkah in honor of my grandson's "Shalom Zachor" a festive gathering for a newborn son's first Sabbath.

YUM!

219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:06:40am

re: #212 TheRealThing

Little time this morning and yes I am new. Still do not understand the rather clear group attacks on singled out posters. Seems not conductive to even handed back and forth debate. Just my take on it as an new poster. Makes it a bit scary to enter the discussions.

Mob rule, dude(tte)...
/

220 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:06:50am

re: #214 Alouette

I've been spending the whole morning cooking for the Sukkot holiday which starts here in a few hours. So far I have made:

Brisket
Gefilte fish
Chicken soup (still have to make the noodles & matzah balls)
Stuffed cabbage lasagna
Sweet potato casserole (like sweet potato pie w/o the crust)
Pasta salad with olives

And now, I'm pooped.

My son-in-law is doing the dishes and mopping the floor.

My daughter has promised to stop complaining and just enjoy herself for the rest of the holiday.

Tonight we are having a bunch of guests in the sukkah in honor of my grandson's "Shalom Zachor" a festive gathering for a newborn son's first Sabbath.

Mazal tov on the grandson. I have yet to do my butcher run to pick up my order. Please provide recipe for stuffed cabbage lasagna.

221 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:07:27am

re: #214 Alouette

I've been spending the whole morning cooking for the Sukkot holiday which starts here in a few hours. So far I have made:

Brisket
Gefilte fish
Chicken soup (still have to make the noodles & matzah balls)
Stuffed cabbage lasagna
Sweet potato casserole (like sweet potato pie w/o the crust)
Pasta salad with olives

And now, I'm pooped.

My son-in-law is doing the dishes and mopping the floor.

My daughter has promised to stop complaining and just enjoy herself for the rest of the holiday.

Tonight we are having a bunch of guests in the sukkah in honor of my grandson's "Shalom Zachor" a festive gathering for a newborn son's first Sabbath.

Mazel tov!

(Save some for me!)

222 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:08:21am

re: #216 MandyManners

Totalitarianism is based on positive liberty.

Eh. Not sure I agree with that. Oversimplification of very complicated psycho-social realities. We should meet irl for a cup of coffee, scones and a chat!

223 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:08:45am
224 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:08:46am

it's naive to think the OGs in Chicago would not open the door to monumental corruption, cost over runs that the citizens will have to pay off...and they don't want the Games in big numbers


[Link: www.salon.com...]

225 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:09:33am

re: #222 imp_62

Eh. Not sure I agree with that. Oversimplification of very complicated psycho-social realities. We should meet irl for a cup of coffee, scones and a chat!

A government that is based on the philosophy of getting into your life in order to help you is also one that can severely limit you.

226 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:10:02am

re: #217 MandyManners

The Interstate Commerce Clause has been twisted to the point that I doubt Jefferson, et al., would recognize it.

Career politicians were also most probably one of the primary reasons to declare independence from England.

227 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:10:30am

re: #225 MandyManners

A government that is based on the philosophy of getting into your life in order to help you is also one that can severely limit you.

Intrusiveness is bad, mmkay? Most people don't like it when other individuals butt into their private affairs; why should the government be any different?

228 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:10:37am

re: #225 MandyManners

A government that is based on the philosophy of getting into your life in order to help you is also one that can severely limit you.

"Can" = "must". That is why we vote and have the right to protest and pubic assembly.

229 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:11:35am

re: #228 imp_62

"Can" = "must". That is why we vote and have the right to protest and pubic assembly.

Hmmm. should be a "not equal to" symbol. sorry

230 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:12:54am

re: #227 thedopefishlives

Intrusiveness is bad, mmkay? Most people don't like it when other individuals butt into their private affairs; why should the government be any different?

I would like to know that the government reserves the right to positively interfere with my neighbor's plans to do something bad. Especially to me, my kids, my home.

231 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:13:02am

re: #229 imp_62

Hmmm. should be a "not equal to" symbol. sorry

!=

232 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:13:25am

re: #226 Taqyia2Me

Career politicians were also most probably one of the primary reasons to declare independence from England.

How the worm has turned on that one, huh?

233 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:13:57am

Another "not equal to" symbol (but must be rendered in HTML

<>

234 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:14:05am

re: #214 Alouette

Serious about the recipe request, Alouette! Please?

235 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:14:35am

re: #232 imp_62

How the worm has turned on that one, huh?

Abhorrent bastardization, imho...

236 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:15:07am

re: #235 Taqyia2Me

I like your avatar!

237 MandyManners  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:15:57am

100,009

Gotta' git.

238 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:16:22am

re: #230 imp_62

I would like to know that the government reserves the right to positively interfere with my neighbor's plans to do something bad. Especially to me, my kids, my home.

civil law and a justice system seem socially appropriate for the govt to handle, I think

239 gregb  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:16:53am

re: #223 MandyManners

WAB looks smashing in that yellow dress.

Also smashing in this pic, in a vicbeckham, cherinmoonstruck kind of way.

[Link: www.punditandpundette.com...]
[Link: www.sugarscape.com...]
[Link: www.imdb.com...]

240 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:16:57am

re: #206 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Leopard and Zebra Print Snuggies are available now!

Also, snuggies for yor pet.

The show on Tuesday was a gimmick, sure, but also a real effort to introduce new colors and styles that included animal prints, tie-dye, camouflage, a “luxury microplush” and — in a possible stroke of marketing genius — college logos.
Also shown were Snuggies for children and dogs.
241 Taqyia2Me  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:17:06am

re: #236 imp_62

I like your avatar!

Thank you very much! I like yours as well, goes nicely with the 'imp' part of your nic!

242 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:17:08am

re: #238 albusteve

civil law and a justice system seem socially appropriate for the govt to handle, I think

As long as it is done with the lightest possible touch. Which, unfortunately, it is not.

243 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:17:46am

re: #241 Taqyia2Me

Thank you very much! I like yours as well, goes nicely with the 'imp' part of your nic!

I've been told the shoe fits.

244 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:18:09am

re: #237 MandyManners

Drive safe.

245 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:20:14am

STUFFED CABBAGE LASAGNA

2 cans diced tomatoes
1 lb. ground beef
1 c. rice
1 large head cabbage
1/2 c. dry red wine
1 large onion
5 garlic cloves
1 tsp. salt
1/2 tsp. pepper
1 Tbsp. olive oil

Prepare rice by cooking in 2 c. water.
Chop onion and garlic and saute in olive oil. Crumble meat and fry together with the onion and garlic until meat is browned. Add canned tomatoes and wine; cook for about 10 minutes.

Slice cabbage.

In a lasagna pan, layer in this order:
1 layer meat sauce
1 layer cooked rice
1 layer cabbage slices
Repeat, and end with a layer of meat sauce.

Bake at 350 for 45 minutes.

This is an alternative to stuffed cabbage because I don't have the patience to roll individual cabbage leaves.

246 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:21:32am

re: #212 TheRealThing

Little time this morning and yes I am new. Still do not understand the rather clear group attacks on singled out posters. Seems not conductive to even handed back and forth debate. Just my take on it as an new poster. Makes it a bit scary to enter the discussions.

Can be a bit scary.
Grow a thick skin.
Follow the rules (posted underneath each main post).
Don't be an idiot, except if you're spacejesus.
It will be OK.

247 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:21:38am

re: #245 Alouette

Thanks! Copied to Word already. Maybe I will call it "Unstuffed Cabbage".

248 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:22:23am

re: #245 Alouette

STUFFED CABBAGE LASAGNA

2 cans diced tomatoes
1 lb. ground beef
1 c. rice
1 large head cabbage
1/2 c. dry red wine
1 large onion
5 garlic cloves
1 tsp. salt
1/2 tsp. pepper
1 Tbsp. olive oil

Prepare rice by cooking in 2 c. water.
Chop onion and garlic and saute in olive oil. Crumble meat and fry together with the onion and garlic until meat is browned. Add canned tomatoes and wine; cook for about 10 minutes.

Slice cabbage.

In a lasagna pan, layer in this order:
1 layer meat sauce
1 layer cooked rice
1 layer cabbage slices
Repeat, and end with a layer of meat sauce.

Bake at 350 for 45 minutes.

This is an alternative to stuffed cabbage because I don't have the patience to roll individual cabbage leaves.

Can I have it for the cookbook?

249 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:22:26am

forgot to add: cabbage should be softened first by microwaving or cooking for about 15 minutes before preparing the recipe (do this while cooking the rice)

250 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:22:43am

re: #248 reine.de.tout

Can I have it for the cookbook?

Enjoy!

251 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:22:48am

re: #245 Alouette

And you don't use raisins! I want to come to your house for lunch tomorrow.

252 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:23:46am

re: #248 reine.de.tout

Are you really putting together a kosher/Jewish cookbook? We should have a blogsite to collect and exchange recipes.

253 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:25:59am

snippets of some of the usual blather to buy the OGs...same old stuff they always say...nothing new here except the epic cronyism factor hidden in the words


[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

254 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:28:10am

re: #252 imp_62

Are you really putting together a kosher/Jewish cookbook? We should have a blogsite to collect and exchange recipes.

It is an LGF cookbook, and includes kosher/Jewish recipes among others.

It's Volume 2.
volume 1 was issued earlier this year.
Click my nic - and go to the cookbook blog. There's a link there for Volume 1, if you want to check it out and maybe even buy it!

Volume 2 is in the works as we speak.

255 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:30:12am

Less than a year into his presidency, this is a remarkable and widespread loss of confidence in the president’s handling of national security. This should actually come as no surprise.

[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]

Afghanistan is slipping away from BO and the people know it...he is in his CYA mode and our people over there are dying

256 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:31:01am

re: #254 reine.de.tout

Groovy. I will check on it after I get back from the butcher and bagel run. Luckily, my wife made challah and baked cakes. Also lucky to be invited out tomorrow lunch (even if it won't be as good as Alouette's/Babushka's)

257 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:32:24am

re: #254 reine.de.tout

It is an LGF cookbook, and includes kosher/Jewish recipes among others.

It's Volume 2.
volume 1 was issued earlier this year.
Click my nic - and go to the cookbook blog. There's a link there for Volume 1, if you want to check it out and maybe even buy it!

Volume 2 is in the works as we speak.

I lost my famed pimento cheese dip recipe, and my sister never sent me her copy...bummer

258 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:33:13am

re: #257 albusteve

I lost my famed pimento cheese dip recipe, and my sister never sent me her copy...bummer

:-(

If you can get it from her, there's still a small window where I can add it!

259 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:36:27am

I can no longer delay hopping on my trusty bicycle and doing some errands. BBL.

260 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:38:35am

Canadian nanny state...now it's mandatory ski helmets

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

261 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:40:26am

re: #258 reine.de.tout

:-(

If you can get it from her, there's still a small window where I can add it!

I have two sister conspiring against me...we all make it every year but suddenly nobody has the recipe?...I'll keep looking, thanks

262 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:45:23am

re: #260 albusteve

Canadian nanny state...now it's mandatory ski helmets

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

The cost of cleaning up the brains and blood from the snow justify the law.

263 Pianobuff  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:46:17am

That picture is eerily familiar.

264 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:47:20am

re: #262 imp_62

The cost of cleaning up the brains and blood from the snow justify the law.

it's intrusive and hypocritical

265 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:49:30am

re: #264 albusteve

it's intrusive and hypocritical

So is a ski pole through the ear!

Anyway, intrusive - maybe. Hypocritical? Why, Because legislators get to go to Cabinet sessions without protective gear?

266 shutdown  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:50:17am

Dammit Janet. I really have to go now.

267 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:50:24am

re: #265 imp_62

So is a ski pole through the ear!

Anyway, intrusive - maybe. Hypocritical? Why, Because legislators get to go to Cabinet sessions without protective gear?

I'll let you figure it out

268 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:52:51am

cash for clunkers was a nice buzz on the taxpayers dime...now comes the hangover...sales are crashing, all according to plan I guess...so what was the point?

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

269 Bubblehead II  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:53:03am

To early to go OT in the new thread so I will post it here.

Muslims Not 'Free of Being Mocked,' Danish Cartoonist Says

*snip*

"But Ibrahim Hooper, communications director for the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), said the event was meant to rile Muslims."

Let the seething begin.

270 Irish Rose  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:24:23am

Good morning!

I love the ocean threads.

271 Irish Rose  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:26:08am

re: #254 reine.de.tout

It is an LGF cookbook, and includes kosher/Jewish recipes among others.

It's Volume 2.
volume 1 was issued earlier this year.
Click my nic - and go to the cookbook blog. There's a link there for Volume 1, if you want to check it out and maybe even buy it!

Volume 2 is in the works as we speak.

Are you still taking recipes for that, or no?

272 scrubjay  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:04:29am

Obama loses the Chicago bid for the Olympics and biggest unemployment since 1983 announced today. Failures in both policy and influence. What a flop.

273 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 1:01:29pm

re: #272 scrubjay

Obama loses the Chicago bid for the Olympics and biggest unemployment since 1983 announced today. Failures in both policy and influence. What a flop.

And if he'd succeeded, I somehow think you'd be banging on about "the Chicago way" and graft in Chicago, and complaining about the cost of his flight (and MO's) to the IOC. Those were yesterday's wingnut talking points, and the ones they were setting up to run with if he'd been successful.


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Recycling Chaos in U.S. As China Bans ‘Foreign Waste’ Like many Portland residents, Satish and Arlene Palshikar are serious recyclers. Their house is coated with recycled bluish-white paint. They recycle their rainwater, compost their food waste and carefully separate the paper and plastic they toss out. But recently, ...
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Trump Jerusalem Move: Tear Gas at Lebanon US Embassy Protest There have been violent clashes near the US embassy in Lebanon, in the latest protest against President Donald Trump's decision to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Security forces fired tear gas and water cannon to force back ...
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Trump Says He and Trudeau Disagree on Trade Deficit. U.S. Stats Seem to Be on the PM’s SideHair Furor just can't seem to catch a break these days....Despite Trump's insistence the U.S. has a trade deficit with Canada, statistics from the website of the office of the U.S. Trade Representative -- the office handling NAFTA negotiations -- ...
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Blondie - Doom or Destiny (Official Video)Blondie performing "Doom or Destiny" from the new album "Pollinator".Out Now: blondie.lnk.to Follow Blondiefacebook.cominstagram.com@BlondieOfficial vevo.ly
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Beth Hart & Joe Bonamassa - Black Coffee (Official Music Video) Official video for Black Coffee from the new Beth Hart & Joe Bonamassa album Black Coffee. Pre-order: smarturl.it BLACK COFFEE is available to pre-order on CD and vinyl. The limited CD box includes 2 coasters, a postcard and an ...
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Sparks - ‘This Town Ain’t Big Enough for Both of Us’ (Live at WFUV) wfuv.org • Follow @wfuv: ow.ly Sparks (allsparks.com) performs "This Town Ain't Big Enough For Both of Us" live in Studio A. Recorded 10.12.17. Host: Darren DeVivoAudio: Jim O'HaraCameras: Dan Tuozzoli, Kristal Ho, Monica Fafaul, Alexandra Brennan and Liz CarrEditor: ...
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