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1 Equable  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:11:37pm

Well shoot, a whale being transported through the streets of Taiwan and then exploding on said streets is "awesome".

2 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:11:45pm

Yep, he's something, all right.

3 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:11:46pm
4 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:12:15pm

Where is the heir to William F. Buckley already?

5 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:12:25pm
6 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:12:56pm

“He’s an awesome man!”

Did God tell her to say that?

7 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:13:02pm

R-Twilight Zn. Love it.

8 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:13:58pm

Ron Paul!

9 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:14:05pm

News flash for Mrs. Bachmann:

People who take money from neo-nazis are not "awesome".

10 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:14:15pm

The Russian word for that is "grozny".

And we all know that Ivan Grozny was batshit crazy.

11 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:15:09pm

re: #4 CyanSnowHawk

Where is the heir to William F. Buckley already?

I think he supported Obama last time, didn't he? That bloodline ran thin, eh?

12 redshirt  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:15:30pm

Hey Charles, Just curious, in your opinion, which conservative is your choice to lead the republican party?

13 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:15:34pm

re: #10 victor_yugo

The Russian word for that is "grozny".

And we all know that Ivan Grozny was batshit crazy.

Yeah, and look at what happened to the town that bore his name.

14 Gus  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:15:53pm

The new face of the GOP: WingBats ™

15 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:16:59pm

re: #9 Sharmuta

News flash for Mrs. Bachmann:

People who take money from neo-nazis are not "awesome".

Just ask Bodissey. :-P

16 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:17:18pm

re: #7 John Neverbend

R-Twilight Zn. Love it.

She always struck me as one of the Amazon Women On The Moon.

17 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:17:19pm

re: #1 Equable

Well shoot, a whale being transported through the streets of Taiwan and then exploding on said streets is "awesome".

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

Awesome:

2. Appalling, dreadful, weird.

Yes, there were other definitions, but I picked the ones that applied best to Luap Nor.

18 MJ  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:18:39pm

Michele Bachmann reminds of Helen P. Chenoweth- the same type of lunatic:

During her tenure, she was referred to by her most outspoken critics as a "poster-child for the militias," and in February 1995 she voiced the suspicion that armed federal agents were landing black helicopters on Idaho ranchers' property to enforce the Endangered Species Act, in line with a conspiracy theory popular in far-right circles. "I have never seen them," Chenoweth said in an interview in The New York Times. "But enough people in my district have become concerned that I can't just ignore it. We do have some proof."[3] The Los Angeles Times editorialized that during the campaign she gained national attention by "holding 'endangered salmon bakes' during fundraisers, serving canned salmon to ridicule the listing of Idaho salmon as an endangered species." She was quoted as saying in response, "It's the white, Anglo-Saxon male that's endangered today."[4]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

19 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:18:51pm

re: #17 John Neverbend

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

Awesome:

2. Appalling, dreadful, weird.

Yes, there were other definitions, but I picked the ones that applied best to Luap Nor.

"Awesome" and "awful" originally meant about the same thing.

20 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:18:59pm

re: #5 buzzsawmonkey

He bestrides the earth like a homunculus.

He's a nonentity, striving to be a mediocrity.

21 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:19:24pm

re: #17 John Neverbend

From the Oxford English Dictionary:

Awesome:

2. Appalling, dreadful, weird.

Yes, there were other definitions, but I picked the ones that applied best to Luap Nor.

Well said!

22 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:19:56pm

re: #18 MJ

Michele Bachmann reminds of Helen P. Chenoweth- the same type of lunatic:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Bats of a leather...

23 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:19:57pm

re: #20 John Neverbend

He's a nonentity, striving to be a mediocrity.

Delusions of competence, or adequacy, do you think?

24 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:19:59pm

re: #21 LudwigVanQuixote

Well said!

You're welcome. I'm just working up the energy to walk home.

25 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:21:04pm

re: #12 redshirt

I think somebody similar to Rudy would be a good model for Republicans to follow.

26 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:22:23pm

re: #24 John Neverbend

You're welcome. I'm just working up the energy to walk home.

Whenever I face the prospect of a long walk home, I always motivate myself by imagining a nice meal, or a really good beverage waiting for me when I get there. About half-way through the trudge, I realize that there's not going to be anything like that when I do get home, and the disappointment from that generates enough indignation to carry me the rest of the way there.

27 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:22:25pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

“He’s an awesome man!”

Did God tell her to say that?

No, God told her husband, and her husband told her. Keep the line of communications clear!

28 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:22:27pm

Wow, the righty blogs are still doing non-stop celebration about America not getting the Olympics.

29 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:22:50pm

Ron paul prints some letters backwards.

30 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:23:00pm

re: #27 SanFranciscoZionist

No, God told her husband, and her husband told her. Keep the line of communications clear!

Right! Hos silly of me to forget a woman's place.

31 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:23:09pm

re: #30 Sharmuta

How! PIMF

32 redshirt  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:23:34pm

re: #25 Killgore Trout

Someone similar like who? I would really like to know someone to look into and start talking up. Charles has the platform to promote said someone, let's get started!

33 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:23:57pm

re: #27 SanFranciscoZionist

No, God told her husband, and her husband told her. Keep the line of communications clear!

Kind of the opposite of G-d telling Abraham to listen to her (Sarah's) voice in all that she says...

34 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:24:34pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Wow, the righty blogs are still doing non-stop celebration about America not getting the Olympics.

How does that make sense really? I mean since when is not getting the olympics something to celebrate?

35 KingKenrod  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:24:35pm

Does anyone outside the fringe think Michele Bachmann is a future leader of the GOP? She barely won her own seat in 2008 with 46% of the vote.

36 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:24:35pm

re: #27 SanFranciscoZionist

No, God told her husband, and her husband told her. Keep the line of communications clear!

That explains why she screwed up when she tried to refute the serpent's argument; most folk miss that detail, and so don't catch the full significance of it.

37 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:25:02pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Wow, the righty blogs are still doing non-stop celebration about America not getting the Olympics.

Dredged up a good one just now. Gloating about the Olympic isn't enough, this one has to take a shot at Obamacare as well:
Obama Olympic Fail Zero Dollar available! Keep fighting for Obamacare to Fail!

38 jaunte  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:25:17pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Nirthery: Someone should tell Ace the spelling is 'Spirit'

39 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:25:30pm

re: #11 Guanxi88

I think he supported Obama last time, didn't he? That bloodline ran thin, eh?

A biological child is not necessarily an intellectual heir.

It's odd. I myself was a reluctant Obama voter (Hillary! Oh God, Hillary! It should have been you! OK better now.) But you'd think the appeal of Obama to various supposed conservative types would have pleased this centrist Democrat. It doesn't. I'm irked. What on earth were they seeing in this, the most lightweight candidate we've run in years? And why, if everyone was gonna get excited about a Democratic candidate, couldn't I?

40 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:26:07pm

re: #33 LudwigVanQuixote

Kind of the opposite of G-d telling Abraham to listen to her (Sarah's) voice in all that she says...

Or Satan making sure that Lot's wife, alone among his household, should be by his side right through it all...re: #39 SanFranciscoZionist

A biological child is not necessarily an intellectual heir.

It's odd. I myself was a reluctant Obama voter (Hillary! Oh God, Hillary! It should have been you! OK better now.) But you'd think the appeal of Obama to various supposed conservative types would have pleased this centrist Democrat. It doesn't. I'm irked. What on earth were they seeing in this, the most lightweight candidate we've run in years? And why, if everyone was gonna get excited about a Democratic candidate, couldn't I?

I was being snarky. There is no intellectual heir to Buckley, any more than there is one to Churchill.

41 theheat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:26:42pm

re: #18 MJ

Where I live, black helicopters land on our farms to whisk our many-colored children away to Obama worship camps. Each one gets a commie songbook and a free abortion coupon to be redeemed at any time before age 18.

My neighbors and I have tried blasting the black ops from the sky to no avail - they're too well armed. My pasture has helicopter marks on it to prove it, which I've captured on film and submitted to Glenn Beck.

When the episode airs, we'll see who's laughing about conspiracy theories.

//

42 RexMundi  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:27:25pm
Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Twilight Zn)

LOL I love that.

43 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:28:00pm

re: #32 redshirt

Rudy (Giulliani) had a nice common semse platform but he's pretty much unelectable. I really don't think the GOP could actually produce a decent candidate in the next 4 years. I might vote for Mitt but he's probably too moderate to win the nomination. If they GOP wants to go extreme right there's not much that can be done about it. They'll eventually discover it's a mistake.

44 Gus  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:28:27pm

re: #28 Killgore Trout

Wow, the righty blogs are still doing non-stop celebration about America not getting the Olympics.

Looks like they have 4 article on top at the far-right blog, Hot Air.

45 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:29:05pm

re: #34 LudwigVanQuixote

How does that make sense really? I mean since when is not getting the olympics something to celebrate?

They want Obama to fail, and apparently not only fail at policy changes they don't like, but fail at everything. I'm not sure how clearly they've thought through the fact that this means they will have to root for the United States to absolutely suck for a minimum of four years, and have nothing go well for it. This is known, in some circles, as 'cutting off your nose to spite the President'.

46 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:29:59pm

re: #45 SanFranciscoZionist

They want Obama to fail, and apparently not only fail at policy changes they don't like, but fail at everything. I'm not sure how clearly they've thought through the fact that this means they will have to root for the United States to absolutely suck for a minimum of four years, and have nothing go well for it. This is known, in some circles, as 'cutting off your nose to spite the President'.

They're angry. They plan on having a bad four years - why shouldn't everybody else, too?

47 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:30:49pm

re: #44 Gus 802

The commenters are dancing in front of their keyboards. Just stupid.

48 Gus  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:33:51pm

re: #47 Killgore Trout

The commenters are dancing in front of their keyboards. Just stupid.

Yeah, now they're against the Olympics because of Obama. The other years not so much. Guess Mitt Romney can't talk any more about saving the Olympic games in Utah nor his recent support of Obama making a trip to the IOC. Never mind the fact that the Chicago bid committee had two strong Republicans on board.

49 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:35:15pm

Some of the cheering was literal...
Weekly Standard deletes reference to ‘Cheers’ in their office after Chicago lost Olympic bid.

Soon after news broke that the International Olympic Committee had rejected Chicago’s bid to host the 2016 Olympics, which President Obama had personally lobbied for, Weekly Standard blogger John McCormack published a celebratory post on the magazine’s blog, titled “Chicago Loses! Chicago Loses!.” McCormack wrote that “Cheers erupt at WEEKLY STANDARD world headquarters”
...
But the post has now been changed. The reference to cheers have been removed and the title has been shortened to a non-exclamatory “Chicago Loses.” The current post neither acknowledges nor explains the changes that were made.

50 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:35:45pm

re: #4 CyanSnowHawk

Where is the heir to William F. Buckley already?

The heir to William F. Buckley was William F. Buckley, Jr.

And he had enough sense not to saddle his son with the name.

51 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:40:12pm

BOOP! BOOP! SHRIEKING HARPY ALERT!

This is such a farrago of FAIL I don't know where to begin.

Pammy has a new post up, advertising an "intimate evening with Pam Gellar"

Actual text written by her:

I will be speaking in Texas next month for a conservative Republican fundraiser. Did you get your tickets yet? The Republicans in Texas are having an Atlas hoe down throw down. Well not quite that, but it's Texas, so we'll have a kick ass good time.

I sense an urban dictionary definition in the making.

52 KingKenrod  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:40:15pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

Rudy (Giulliani) had a nice common semse platform but he's pretty much unelectable. I really don't think the GOP could actually produce a decent candidate in the next 4 years. I might vote for Mitt but he's probably too moderate to win the nomination. If they GOP wants to go extreme right there's not much that can be done about it. They'll eventually discover it's a mistake.

I think the polls are currently showing a Romney vs. Huckabee race for GOP nomination.

I'm very, very worried about Huckabee as candidate. The only worse choice of the current crop is Ron Paul.

53 Mark Pennington  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:40:35pm

Michele Bachmann (R - Crazytown) seems to pop up daily with new and innovative ways to delight and entertain. I think her little red choo-choo has finally chugged 'round the bend.

54 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:41:17pm

re: #51 iceweasel

BOOP! BOOP! SHRIEKING HARPY ALERT!

This is such a farrago of FAIL I don't know where to begin.

Pammy has a new post up, advertising an "intimate evening with Pam Gellar"

Actual text written by her:

I sense an urban dictionary definition in the making.

Gellarize: to put breasts on a bad or evil idea.

55 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:41:52pm

Thank god the conservatives saved Chicago and the US from the Olympics...
Study Forecasts $22.5 Billion in New Economic Activity From 2016 Olympic and Paralympic Games

Victory!
/

56 theheat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:42:00pm

re: #53 beekiller

I honestly think she's channeling her Palin Fu. And when Bachmann hits the campaign trail, she and Sarah can have sleepovers and brush each other's hair.

57 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:43:12pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

Some of the cheering was literal...
Weekly Standard deletes reference to ‘Cheers’ in their office after Chicago lost Olympic bid.

Weasels. They cheered about it, posted it openly on their blog, then got rid of the evidence when they realized it looked crappy.

Weasels.

58 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:43:14pm

re: #54 Guanxi88

Gellarize: to put breasts on a bad or evil idea.

OMG that's one for the books.

60 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:43:38pm

re: #55 Killgore Trout


Chicago 2016 today announced the results of an independent economic-impact study commissioned to quantify the economic effects on the State of Illinois and the City of Chicago from hosting the 2016 Olympic and Paralympic Games. The study found that the Games are expected to stimulate $22.5 billion of incremental economic activity in the State of Illinois—$13.7 billion in the City of Chicago alone—during the 11-year span of 2011 through 2021. The study also found that 315,000 new job-years will be created during this period.


Socialism! Tyranny! Tea Party!

61 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:43:58pm

re: #58 victor_yugo

OMG that's one for the books.

Thank you. Sometimes the non-stop pyrotechnic insanitarium that is my brain comes up with something useful.

62 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:44:00pm

re: #54 Guanxi88

having an Atlas hoe down

63 SpaceJesus  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:44:00pm

re: #49 Killgore Trout

Some of the cheering was literal...
Weekly Standard deletes reference to ‘Cheers’ in their office after Chicago lost Olympic bid.

what the hell is wrong with conservatives? are they this desperate?

64 jaunte  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:44:09pm

re: #51 iceweasel

Good plan to call it 'intimate.' Shows anticipation of low attendance.

65 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:44:40pm

re: #51 iceweasel

She's pimping her hoe-down?

66 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:44:45pm

re: #57 Charles

Nice screencap though. Everybody else seems to be proudly cheering. They shouldn't be ashamed.

67 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:44:50pm

re: #64 jaunte

Good plan to call it 'intimate.' Shows anticipation of low attendance.

Like for a crappy band: "good seats are still available" is a dead giveaway.

68 Mark Pennington  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:44:53pm

re: #56 theheat

lolerz

69 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:45:57pm

re: #51 iceweasel

Just one thing: It's Geller, not Gellar. Don't confuse harpies with vampire slayers.

Geller actually = German for "shrieker". No joke.

70 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:46:06pm

re: #55 Killgore Trout

I am at a loss for words. Why would anyone cheer for such a loss of revenue?

Children. Stupid, spoiled, bitter children.

71 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:46:11pm

re: #63 SpaceJesus

what the hell is wrong with conservatives? are they this desperate?

Yes. They are thrilled that 22.5 billion dollars of economic activity won't happen in Illinois.

72 davinvalkri  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:47:02pm

re: #4 CyanSnowHawk

Where is the heir to William F. Buckley already?

That's what I'd like to know. Maybe it's here at LGF, maybe it's in National Review, who knows?

73 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:47:09pm

re: #69 Cato the Elder

Just one thing: It's Geller, not Gellar. Don't confuse harpies with vampire slayers.

Geller actually = German for "shrieker". No joke.


So, nomen est omen, eh?

74 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:47:51pm

re: #54 Guanxi88

Gellarize: to put breasts on a bad or evil idea.

Again: Geller, not Gellar. Leave Buffy's tits out of this.

75 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:48:22pm

re: #74 Cato the Elder

Again: Geller, not Gellar. Leave Buffy's tits out of this.

Fine, to Gellerize. Works either way.

76 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:48:38pm

re: #69 Cato the Elder

Just one thing: It's Geller, not Gellar. Don't confuse harpies with vampire slayers.

Geller actually = German for "shrieker". No joke.

Speaking of the real Gellar, she had a baby.

[Link: www.usmagazine.com...]

77 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:48:48pm

re: #74 Cato the Elder

Again: Geller, not Gellar. Leave Buffy's tits out of this.

Frankly, I'd rather we found some way to include them.

78 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:48:59pm

re: #54 Guanxi88

Gellarize: to put breasts on a bad or evil idea.

heh. I guess we can say that Robert Spencer was Gellerised?

She looks like some sort of parasite grafted onto him there.

79 Jack Burton  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:49:11pm

Bachmann and Luap Nor, the GOP Underpants Gnomes

Rant about crazy conspiracy theories or the JOOOS

+

???

=

Victory in 2012!

/

80 theheat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:49:50pm

re: #78 iceweasel

My dog does that to my leg sometimes, too. But it doesn't make me smile like Spencer.

81 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:50:04pm

Are the Obamas out of touch with miserable American families?

When the political climate is such that The Onion starts to sound like "real" news, be worried.

82 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:50:04pm

re: #69 Cato the Elder

Geller actually = German for "shrieker". No joke.

Cognate of "yeller", as "one who yells". See also the g/y cognation in the Scandanavian languages.

83 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:50:31pm

re: #77 Guanxi88

Frankly, I'd rather we found some way to include them.

Mud wrestling?

84 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:50:49pm

re: #78 iceweasel

heh. I guess we can say that Robert Spencer was Gellerised?

She looks like some sort of parasite grafted onto him there.

Those claws!

85 Gus  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:50:58pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

Yes. They are thrilled that 22.5 billion dollars of economic activity won't happen in Illinois.

Does that include construction related profits. As an example this would be a loss for structural steel, rebar, metals, architectural materials, concrete, and so on. Then there's real estate improvements within the redevelopment area. New infrastructure, etc.

86 jaunte  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:51:36pm

re: #78 iceweasel

heh. I guess we can say that Robert Spencer was Gellerised?

She looks like some sort of parasite grafted onto him there.

That looks like an ad for a ventriloquism school.

87 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:52:11pm

re: #85 Gus 802

Does that include construction related profits. As an example this would be a loss for structural steel, rebar, metals, architectural materials, concrete, and so on. Then there's real estate improvements within the redevelopment area. New infrastructure, etc.

Don't forget the aldermen's greased palms.

88 theheat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:52:36pm

re: #86 jaunte

I see a goth aura about it.

89 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:52:49pm
90 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:53:29pm

“He’s an awesome man!”
- Michele Bachmann

"You Lie"
- Racer X

91 Jack Burton  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:55:03pm

re: #90 Racer X

“He’s an awesome man!”
- Michele Bachmann

"You Lie"
- Racer X

Yeah but I think a better response would be "Are you high?"

92 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:55:22pm

re: #86 jaunte

Would it be going too far for me to say that I don't find that woman physically attractive in the remotest way?

93 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:56:23pm

re: #88 theheat

I see a goth aura about it.

94 jaunte  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:57:25pm

re: #92 Slumbering Behemoth

I don't think so. Me neither.

95 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:58:43pm

re: #92 Slumbering Behemoth

Would it be going too far for me to say that I don't find that woman physically attractive in the remotest way?

Only with earplugs.

For me, that is.

96 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:58:44pm

re: #86 jaunte

That looks like an ad for a ventriloquism school.

It's a late-night comedy flop: Robert Spencer and Atlas, the Brain-Dead Anti-Jihadist.

Not as funny as Achmed, but they try.

Robert: "You're all bone."

Atlas: "It's my diet. Absolutly."

97 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:59:00pm

re: #86 jaunte

That looks like an ad for a ventriloquism school.

I'll say this for the harpy-- her fondness for her own image does result in many, many images to choose from for the next project for Jimmah-Ice Productions. Where to begin?

98 jaunte  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:59:25pm

re: #96 Cato the Elder

"Why do I always have to be the dummy?"

99 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 2:59:43pm

re: #98 jaunte

"Why do I always have to be the dummy?"

Because this isn't the Twilight Zone.

100 sagehen  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:00:18pm

re: #45 SanFranciscoZionist

They want Obama to fail, and apparently not only fail at policy changes they don't like, but fail at everything.

You know what would make them even happier? If Michelle's garden got aphids.

101 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:01:10pm

Holy shit - listening to Michele rant on about taxes. We're being freaking taxed to death and beyond.

102 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:02:51pm

re: #85 Gus 802

Does that include construction related profits. As an example this would be a loss for structural steel, rebar, metals, architectural materials, concrete, and so on. Then there's real estate improvements within the redevelopment area. New infrastructure, etc.

I wouldn't be surprised if those figures were exaggerated, The study was commissioned by the Chicago Olympic Committee so they probably included everything they could think of.

103 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:02:59pm

re: #95 victor_yugo

Do they make eye-plugs as well?
/

104 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:04:17pm

Resigning must run in the family:

Todd Palin resigns from oil job on North Slope

105 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:06:30pm

TPM has a nice roundup...
Conservatives Revel In America's Olympic Defeat

Chicago and Tokyo eliminated. No Obamalypics," Michelle Malkin tweeted, following up with, "Game over on Obamalympics. Next up, Obamacare."

"Please, please let me break this news to you. It's so sweet," said Glenn Beck on his radio show.

"Hahahahaha," wrote Red State's Erick Erickson. "So Obama's pimped us to every two bit thug and dictator in the world, made promises to half the Olympic committee, and they did not even kiss him. So much for improving America's standing in the world, Barry O."

The Drudge Report announced the news like so: "WORLD REJECTS OBAMA: CHICAGO OUT IN FIRST ROUND. THE EGO HAS LANDED."

"The worst day of Obama's presidency, folks. The ego has landed. The world has rejected Obama," echoed Rush Limbaugh.

"For those of you ... who are upset that I sound gleeful, I am. I don't deny it. I'm happy," Limbaugh said. "Anything that gets in the way of Barack Obama accomplishing his domestic agenda is fine with me."


They didn't even get this excited over defunding ACORN.

106 erraticsphinx  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:07:49pm

re: #105 Killgore Trout

I think we will have a baby boom nine months from now in some circles.

107 BARACK THE VOTE  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:08:03pm

re: #105 Killgore Trout

These people make me sick.

BBL.

108 Dreader1962  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:08:03pm

Didn't Jon Stewart have Ron Paul as a guest recently?

109 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:08:19pm

re: #106 erraticsphinx

Lol

110 theheat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:08:59pm

re: #104 Sharmuta

Someone has to stay home and look after the kids while Mommy goes out and makes money. Makes sense to me.

I know when I call Mr. Heat my house bitch, though, he gets pretty mad. I suggest Sarah refrains from that part.

111 Gus  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:09:38pm

re: #105 Killgore Trout

TPM has a nice roundup...
Conservatives Revel In America's Olympic Defeat


They didn't even get this excited over defunding ACORN.

Another sophomoric and pathetic display on their part.

112 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:09:44pm

re: #104 Sharmuta

Resigning must run in the family:

Todd Palin resigns from oil job on North Slope

Quote:

"Todd loved his union job on the Slope and hopes to return," Meghan Stapleton, Sarah Palin's personal spokeswoman, said in an e-mail Friday. "For now, he is spending time with his family."

Cough. Sputter. Spew.

"Union"?!

As in those thugs who have ruined America forever?!?!!!1!?

No wonder he quit. If this had gone public, his wife's career as a true conservative would have been finished.

Oh, wait...

[laughing self sick]

113 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:10:09pm

re: #103 Slumbering Behemoth

Do they make eye-plugs as well?
/

Search Google for "grammar spork."

And don't say I didn't warn you.

114 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:10:48pm

re: #112 Cato the Elder

Heh. Nice catch.

115 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:11:48pm

Maybe instead of wasting a lot of money on the notoriously corrupt and elitist Olympics, that money could be better used to pay to build a few nuclear power plants.

116 Gus  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:12:04pm

re: #105 Killgore Trout

TPM has a nice roundup...
Conservatives Revel In America's Olympic Defeat


They didn't even get this excited over defunding ACORN.

Did you see this at Red State?

Which is the greatest sports FAIL?

Sports fail? Look at the numbers. The majority of the Red State readers picked, "Obama failed Chicago Olympics bid."

Looks like drinking the Kool Aid is a bipartisan appetite.

117 theheat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:13:18pm

re: #112 Cato the Elder

Don't unions get in the way of your plans to secede, at least as far as appearing self-sufficient? Seems conflicting to me.

118 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:14:05pm

Heh. Listening to Ron Paul now - rambling on about the war mongering Obama sending more troops into Afghanistan.

119 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:14:12pm

Ron Paul On Al Jazeera 9/30 Part 1

120 wiffersnapper  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:15:12pm

*cue Wile E. Coyote falling off a cliff sound effect*

That's the sound of sanity leaving the GOP at the moment.

121 erraticsphinx  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:16:29pm

re: #115 Spare O'Lake

Note : Calling something elitist doesn't automatically make it a bad thing.

122 Gus  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:17:22pm

BTW, while they're busy celebrating the IOC decision they're ignoring this:

Obama meets with Afghanistan commander in Denmark

By JULIE PACE and LARA JAKES, Associated Press Writer Julie Pace And Lara Jakes, Associated Press Writer – 51 mins ago

WASHINGTON – At a pivotal point in the administration's Afghanistan strategy, President Barack Obama and his top Afghan war commander met privately aboard Air Force One Friday for a talk the White House described as productive.

The 25-minute meeting with Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal, aboard Air Force One as it waited to carry the president home from Denmark, gave Obama a chance to step outside the circle of advisers he has convened to study the problem of Afghanistan. His war council has been sharing differing opinions on whether the U.S. should send thousands more troops to tamp down the Taliban, or shift to a narrower focus on al-Qaida in neighboring Pakistan.

The Copenhagen meeting was an extension of those war council sessions "as we reassess and re-evaluate moving forward in Afghanistan," White House press secretary Robert Gibbs told reporters afterward.

...

123 FrogMarch  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:17:35pm

re: #112 Cato the Elder

Cough. Sputter. Spew.

"Union"?!

As in those thugs who have ruined America forever?!?!!!1!?

No wonder he quit. If this had gone public, his wife's career as a true conservative would have been finished.

Oh, wait...

[laughing self sick]

Hi Cato. It's not news that he worked for a union. Not all unions suck - or suck the life out of industry. Just most.

124 Randall Gross  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:18:10pm

re: #104 Sharmuta

Resigning must run in the family:

Todd Palin resigns from oil job on North Slope

That's not a big deal, people drag up from North slope jobs all the time, it's almost expected after a few months. They take a couple of months off, then go back again.

125 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:18:13pm

Isn't hosting the Olympic Games precisely the kind of extravaganza that the US economy can ill afford at this time. Wouldn't stimulus money be better spent on basic infrastructure?

126 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:18:29pm

re: #123 FrogMarch

Hi Cato. It's not news that he worked for a union. Not all unions suck - or suck the life out of industry. Just most.

Just the ones you or your friends don't belong to, right?

Feh.

127 FrogMarch  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:18:53pm

re: #126 Cato the Elder

Just the ones you or your friends don't belong to, right?

Feh.

Huh?

128 erraticsphinx  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:18:56pm

re: #125 Spare O'Lake

It's in 2016...You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

129 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:19:54pm

re: #128 erraticsphinx

It's in 2016...You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

In 2016 we are going to be way brokerer.

130 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:21:09pm

re: #118 Racer X

Heh. Listening to Ron Paul now - rambling on about the war mongering Obama sending more troops into Afghanistan.

That will be the new platform -

SoCon
AntiWar
AntiFed
AntiScience/VAX/Reason
..oh.. Almost forgot that whole "Fiscal Conservative" thing, but that is there just to get some of those RINOs to show up at the polls.

131 sngnsgt  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:21:51pm

re: #129 Racer X

In 2016 we are going to be way brokerer.

After 8 years of Obama and Democrats we are going to be brokerist!

132 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:23:21pm

re: #110 theheat

Heh, I wonder why he would react that way?

Reminds me of something B. B. King once said "Ladies, if your man ain't doing exactly like you want him too, don't cut him down, 'cuz you can never raise him up again".

Or something to that affect.

133 Gus  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:23:47pm

re: #130 karmic_inquisitor

That will be the new platform -

SoCon
AntiWar
AntiFed
AntiScience/VAX/Reason
..oh.. Almost forgot that whole "Fiscal Conservative" thing, but that is there just to get some of those RINOs to show up at the polls.

And pot smoking so-cons. Now there's a sight to behold.

"Hey man like that's so wrong man."

/

134 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:24:10pm

re: #128 erraticsphinx

It's in 2016...You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

Well up here in Canada, when we have had Olympics we started land development, demolition, excavations and building the site at least 5 years in advance.
Of course you probably build stuff really fast in Chicago, so I guess I don't know what I'm talking about do I, you twirp.

135 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:24:29pm

re: #129 Racer X

In 2016 we are going to be way brokerer.

If America is so broke we can't afford to host the greatest Athletes in the World in 7 years then maybe we should just close shop and move to a third world country..At least we'll save money..Right?
We dream big..We play big...Go big or go home

136 erraticsphinx  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:24:52pm

If I was a Democratic strategist I would definitely try to make hay of this. It's making the GOP look like horrible losers, not Obama.

137 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:26:11pm

OT:

In honor of Facebook making Latin one of its official site languages today.

stetit puella
rufa tunica
si quis eam tetigit
tunica crepuit
eia!

stetit puella
tamquam rosula
facie splenduit
os eius floruit
eia!

Those of you who already are FB friends can now visit my Murum, view my Imagines, read my Indicias et Annotationes, and click on my Ligamina.

Those who might like to be among my Amicis, my nick is blue. Please identify yourselves by your LGF nominibus so I'll know who I'm friending.

138 erraticsphinx  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:26:44pm

re: #134 Spare O'Lake

You're right. We should sit here, pray, do yoga, and chant. Nothing should be built every again, too much construction involved. The demolitions are also very loud and scary.
And the corruption! Ooooh, even though it hasn't started yet, my time machine tells me it will be horrible.

Thank you for helping me see the light.
/

139 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:27:20pm

re: #131 sngnsgt

After 8 years of Obama and Democrats we are going to be brokerist!

Mostest Brokest.

140 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:27:30pm

re: #135 HoosierHoops

High five!

AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!

141 sattv4u2  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:28:12pm

re: #128 erraticsphinx

It's in 2016...You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

Actually, the "building" of venues and infrastructure would have to start almost instantly

You have no idea what YOU'RE talking about, do you?

142 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:28:28pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

Yes. They are thrilled that 22.5 billion dollars of economic activity won't happen in Illinois.

I really don't think they've thought that far ahead. Or if they have, they've convinced themselves the even will be a net loss. If it were about economic stimulus or lack of it, they would have been discussing this when Chicago was first announced to have made the final cut - back in April 2007, two and a half years ago.

I haven't heard jack about it until this week, when the announcement was made that 0bama was going to throw his weight behind the effort.

It's all about spinning this as some kind of defeat for 0bama. It's got nothing to do with any sort of economic analysis, for which rational arguments can be made both ways.

143 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:28:56pm

re: #140 Slumbering Behemoth

High five!

AMERICA! FUCK YEAH!

As long as the Yankees get their corporate welfare in the form of a new stadium, all is well...

144 calcajun  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:29:07pm

Awesome-- I assume she means from the waist down. Or did she mean, "breath-taking".

145 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:29:09pm

re: #135 HoosierHoops

If America is so broke we can't afford to host the greatest Athletes in the World in 7 years then maybe we should just close shop and move to a third world country..At least we'll save money..Right?
We dream big..We play big...Go big or go home

If I thought we could do it on-time and under budget I would be all for it. But we're talking Chicago here.

146 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:29:12pm

How about the UP for a Winter Olympics and make snowmobile racing a trial sport.

147 erraticsphinx  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:29:57pm

re: #141 sattv4u2

Nah, I'm alright.

148 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:31:01pm

Heh -

Anyone notice that Stacy McCain has a soft-pron blogad featuring Pamela Anderson?

Isn't he a family values guy?

149 sattv4u2  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:31:29pm

re: #147 erraticsphinx

Nah, I'm alright.

Better check. There's a reason why the IOC awards the city 7 years in advance!

Beijing didn't finish some of the venues until days before the opening ceremony. Same with other sites

150 theheat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:31:44pm

re: #132 Slumbering Behemoth

I don't he objected to the house bitch moniker as much as having to wear the apron and the thong.

151 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:32:12pm

re: #125 Spare O'Lake

Isn't hosting the Olympic Games precisely the kind of extravaganza that the US economy can ill afford at this time. Wouldn't stimulus money be better spent on basic infrastructure?

The only money that would have been spent was that alloted by Chicago and the State of Illinois. The bid from Chicago was for $4.8 billion.

The bid from Rio was for $14.4 billion. Easy to see why Rio won.

Chicago's plan was to make use of it's existing stadiums and convention space, and to spend the money on things like parking, street improvements, upgraded traffic signals and that sort of thing. In other words, infrastructure. Paid for with city and state money.

152 sngnsgt  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:32:32pm

re: #139 Mich-again

Ahh, thanks for the correction. ;-)

153 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:32:42pm

re: #148 karmic_inquisitor

Heh -

Anyone notice that Stacy McCain has a soft-pron blogad featuring Pamela Anderson?

Isn't he a family values guy?

Apparently he likes hitting on 20-year-old women who (too bad, so sad, Stacy) turn out to be gay. At least there was a rumor to that effect about his "investigative trip" to Kentucky...

154 erraticsphinx  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:33:39pm

Shorter blogosphere of the right:

If the games went to Chicago:

OBAMA knew beforehand! This was an ego trip! He is sooo mean.
BOOO. This will ruin us!

Since the games didn't go to Chicago:

HAHAHAHAH. Loooser. OMG he is so pathetic. What. A. Moron. Why would he go if he didn't know beforehand he was going to win. *snort* He can't do anything right.

155 Gus  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:34:55pm

re: #154 erraticsphinx

Shorter blogosphere of the right:

If the games went to Chicago:

OBAMA knew beforehand! This was an ego trip! He is sooo mean.
BOOO. This will ruin us!

Since the games didn't go to Chicago:

HAHAHAHAH. Loooser. OMG he is so pathetic. What. A. Moron. Why would he go if he didn't know beforehand he was going to win. *snort* He can't do anything right.

This proves that he is part of the foreign European socialist elite!

//

156 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:35:32pm

re: #148 karmic_inquisitor

Heh -

Anyone notice that Stacy McCain has a soft-pron blogad featuring Pamela Anderson?

Isn't he a family values guy?

Right next to the pron ad is a post about how Charles unleashes satanic attacks and he finishes with a quote from the Bible.

Traffic must be down. He is going all out.

157 Summer Seale  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:35:35pm

re: #5 buzzsawmonkey

He bestrides the earth like a homunculus.

I'm saving that forever. =)

158 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:36:47pm

re: #138 erraticsphinx

You're right. We should sit here, pray, do yoga, and chant. Nothing should be built every again, too much construction involved. The demolitions are also very loud and scary.
And the corruption! Ooooh, even though it hasn't started yet, my time machine tells me it will be horrible.

Thank you for helping me see the light.
/

What is needed is concentrated massive investment in nuclear, wind, solar and clean conventional energy infrastructure megaprojects - not Olympic Games for the enrichment and enjoyment of the few. And don't take my word for it, I'm just agreeing with President Obama.
These Olympics usually turn out to be financial and security nightmares.

159 erraticsphinx  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:36:59pm

re: #155 Gus 802

You forgot ACORN.

(no sarc, a lot of comments left at ABC and CBS are railing about them in the articles about the olympics loss)

160 sattv4u2  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:37:16pm

re: #136 erraticsphinx

If I was a Democratic strategist I would definitely try to make hay of this. It's making the GOP look like horrible losers, not Obama.

Yet it was a Dem that spearheaded the ChicagoNO fight AGAINST having the games there

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

161 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:37:23pm

re: #146 Mich-again

How about the UP for a Winter Olympics and make snowmobile racing a trial sport.

I would love to have Michigan host an event like this.

Never, ever gonna happen. There's simply not enough of anything in the way of support. Everything from stadiums to hotels to public transportation to major renovations of Metro Airport would be required to host something like this, and Michigan has nothing to even start with. We're in danger of losing the fucking auto show, fer cryin' out loud - that's how bad things have gotten.

The UP has a lot of what's needed for the winter Olympics - lots of cold, lots of snow - but it doesn't have anything in the way of access, accommodations or facilities. Lots of prestige, but a huge expense compared to other venues that already have a lot of what's needed in place.

162 erraticsphinx  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:38:08pm

re: #158 Spare O'Lake

Fair enough.

163 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:38:51pm

re: #153 Cato the Elder

Apparently he likes hitting on 20-year-old women who (too bad, so sad, Stacy) turn out to be gay. At least there was a rumor to that effect about his "investigative trip" to Kentucky...

I read his post on his "investigative" foray needed to defend southern honor. Looked like he was hitting on 2 gals - a restaurant worker and the editor of some local paper. He put up pics of both so when Charles posted that one was a lesbian. Didn't go back to see which it was.

164 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:38:58pm

re: #156 karmic_inquisitor

Right next to the pron ad is a post about how Charles unleashes satanic attacks and he finishes with a quote from the Bible.

Traffic must be down. He is going all out.

He's grown accustomed to the steady stream of LGF haters and letting go of his vendetta with Charles means kissing that traffic good-bye.

165 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:39:34pm

re: #161 SixDegrees

Just move it to Charlevoix. Get the summer people to rent out their cottages, it's practically an Olympic village.

166 funky chicken  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:40:07pm

re: #125 Spare O'Lake

Isn't hosting the Olympic Games precisely the kind of extravaganza that the US economy can ill afford at this time. Wouldn't stimulus money be better spent on basic infrastructure?

I'd prefer they spent the money building primary care/moderate level care clinics attached to hospitals that are having trouble with too many of those types of folks seeking care at the ER, honestly.

But that won't happen either, I suppose.

167 funky chicken  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:41:36pm

re: #143 Cato the Elder

As long as the Yankees get their corporate welfare in the form of a new stadium, all is well...

Grrr. All the taxpayer funded stadiums for pro sports teams piss me off...

168 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:42:07pm

re: #105 Killgore Trout

TPM has a nice roundup...
Conservatives Revel In America's Olympic Defeat


They didn't even get this excited over defunding ACORN.

I'm not reveling in it, but I'm glad Chicago lost. Not because I hate Obama, but because a win would have resulted in 2 weeks of major headaches for me. Chicago is better off without the Olympics, IMO.

169 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:42:18pm

re: #136 erraticsphinx

If I was a Democratic strategist I would definitely try to make hay of this. It's making the GOP look like horrible losers, not Obama.

Oh, you can bet they will. But they'll wait until the proper time. Right now, it would serve only as carping - there are a few local elections this year (and we may see issues like this crop up in those races) but the big pot is the midterms. They'll store all this shit away and spread it like compost over the airwaves in late summer/early fall 2010, when it will do more to nourish their chances.

The GOP needs to have a watershed anti-crazy event before that happens in order to blunt the attack. If not, those criticisms will carry a great deal of weight with voters.

170 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:42:47pm

re: #166 funky chicken

Our Childrens' hospital, one of the best in the country, has set up a freaking tent to handle emergency drive-through H1N1 and other flulike illness cases, and it's still 80 degrees down here.

171 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:42:55pm

Who are the mofo morons who blew such a big hole in the economy and why aren't they in the federal pen?

172 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:43:43pm

re: #163 karmic_inquisitor

I read his post on his "investigative" foray needed to defend southern honor. Looked like he was hitting on 2 gals - a restaurant worker and the editor of some local paper. He put up pics of both so when Charles posted that one was a lesbian. Didn't go back to see which it was.

He's unbelievably pathetic. Not only did he come back from Kentucky with absolutely NO news at all about the census worker, he apparently spent most of his time hitting on a 20-year old girl (with several posts about the tattoo she wouldn't show him, slobber, drool) who turned out to be a lesbian.

The Bible quote is a perfect touch for that pathetic hypocritical racist creep.

173 erraticsphinx  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:43:47pm

re: #169 SixDegrees

I think 2014 will be the first election year in which non-crazy elements finally rise up.

174 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:43:49pm

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

I saw interviews with long time citizens of Chicago who were against the games because they were sure they would be displaced from their inner city homes to make way for parking and facilities. They were practically doing rain dances against the bid.

175 Gus  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:44:11pm

Nap time.

Here's a good essay by Joe Scarborough over at Huff Post. He makes many valid points regarding the IOC and general political issues:

Thank You, Mr. President

BBL

176 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:44:51pm

re: #173 erraticsphinx

Well I hope so.

177 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:46:28pm

re: #144 calcajun

Awesome-- I assume she means from the waist down. Or did she mean, "breath-taking".

When a mature (well, in terms of age) national legislator starts using Valley Girl slang like "awesome" to describe an even maturer (again, age) colleague in a political speech, you know there's something funny going on right there.

178 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:46:52pm

re: #171 Ojoe

Because some of them are in Congress. Talk to Barney Frank and the others who pushed for no-job-no-credit-no-problem loans that got bundled into portfolios by greedy brokers who ran when the paper went useless. Plenty of blame to go around, starting in DC and flowing out from there.
ACORN helped, as well.

179 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:47:06pm

re: #166 funky chicken

I'd prefer they spent the money building primary care/moderate level care clinics attached to hospitals that are having trouble with too many of those types of folks seeking care at the ER, honestly.

But that won't happen either, I suppose.

Most hospitals are doing that on their own, if they haven't already. Our local hospital added a "Prompt Care" facility adjacent to the ER, and they shunt all the easy stuff over there where it gets dealt with a lot more cheaply than a full-blown ER-style event. Minor cuts requiring a few stitches, bruises, sprains, minor fractures and all of that sort of thing winds up there. And this seems to be the trend at most hospitals.

Additional money doesn't seem to be needed. Doing this allows hospitals to streamline their ER, and the lower rates charged at the clinic reaps a higher payment rate/lower default rate than the hellacious bills a trip to the emergency room rack up. Win/win for everyone.

180 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:47:20pm

re: #172 Charles

He's unbelievably pathetic. Not only did he come back from Kentucky with absolutely NO news at all about the census worker, he apparently spent most of his time hitting on a 20-year old girl (with several posts about the tattoos she wouldn't show him, slobber, drool) who turned out to be a lesbian.

The Bible quote is a perfect touch for that pathetic hypocritical racist creep.

Link, please? I need a laff.

181 funky chicken  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:47:20pm

re: #170 tradewind

Our Childrens' hospital, one of the best in the country, has set up a freaking tent to handle emergency drive-through H1N1 and other flulike illness cases, and it's still 80 degrees down here.

You're in Austin? They need to shut down the schools down there for a few days to slow the pace of the spread...it's frankly idiotic to think that missing 3 or 4 days of elementary school is going to consign kids to illiteracy or anything.

182 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:47:55pm

re: #178 tradewind

Yeah, Barney Frank. I've heard that one.

Mofo moron for suuure.

183 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:48:37pm

re: #177 Cato the Elder

Umm, run through TOTUS' speeches. You'll hear the president toss out an 'awesome 'every now and then... when he's not all wee-wee'd up about something, that is.

184 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:48:47pm

re: #173 erraticsphinx

I think 2014 will be the first election year in which non-crazy elements finally rise up.

Possible. That's the same amount of time it took for the Dems to finally lock their crazy siblings in the closet, stop scaring away moderates and start winning elections again.

185 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:49:07pm

re: #181 funky chicken

No, the other T state.

186 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:49:15pm

re: #170 tradewind

Our Childrens' hospital, one of the best in the country, has set up a freaking tent to handle emergency drive-through H1N1 and other flulike illness cases, and it's still 80 degrees down here.

We had the first child fatality in my state yesterday.

And the anti-vaxers, left and right - but particularly the brainless "organic cotton jeans" crowd - are yelling at people not to get the vaccine, if and when it becomes available.

187 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:50:46pm

re: #186 Cato the Elder

We had the first child fatality in my state yesterday.

And the anti-vaxers, left and right - but particularly the brainless "organic cotton jeans" crowd - are yelling at people not to get the vaccine, if and when it becomes available.

They seem to welcome having blood on their hands. And they will get a fair bit on themselves before flu season is over.

188 Dreader1962  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:51:47pm

re: #161 SixDegrees

I would love to have Michigan host an event like this.

Never, ever gonna happen. There's simply not enough of anything in the way of support. Everything from stadiums to hotels to public transportation to major renovations of Metro Airport would be required to host something like this, and Michigan has nothing to even start with. We're in danger of losing the fucking auto show, fer cryin' out loud - that's how bad things have gotten.

The UP has a lot of what's needed for the winter Olympics - lots of cold, lots of snow - but it doesn't have anything in the way of access, accommodations or facilities. Lots of prestige, but a huge expense compared to other venues that already have a lot of what's needed in place.

It is a beautiful state, though.

Born and bred Michigander.

189 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:52:24pm

re: #168 Dark_Falcon

I'm not reveling in it, but I'm glad Chicago lost. Not because I hate Obama, but because a win would have resulted in 2 weeks of major headaches for me. Chicago is better off without the Olympics, IMO.

You are not alone. Daley spent too much money trying to get the Olympics and I think his approval ratings are way down today. Perhaps he will now concentrate on the City he was elected to govern.

190 medaura18586  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:52:33pm

Self-centered as it may sound and indeed be, I draw the line of demarcation between sane and insane on the libertarian front right through myself. I push to the breaking point the rhetoric of liberty both as it relates to lifestyle issues and economic/monetary concerns. If you think hosting the Olympic games is a net loss to the host nation, you're crazy--no matter if you invoke tax payers to support your case. If you're an anarchist and fantasize about secession, you are crazy. If to you, state rights are a proxy for abolishing the federal government, you are crazy. If you think Obama is imposing a totalitarian fascist/communist rule on the country, you are crazy. In short, if you're any more "libertarian" than myself, you're likely nuts. Come to think of it, I may be a bit nutty myself.

But enough Ron Paul pimping folks,.. enough extremist rhetoric.

191 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:54:00pm

re: #186 Cato the Elder
We've had two in the city. Both children, though, had underlying health conditions and their parents didn't seek treatment as quickly as they might have.. and they were from middle-class, not poor, households.
My youngest is just getting over a case of H1N1, and it seemed no worse than the garden variety flu. I did get him on meds within the first 48, though, so felt lucky to have caught it.
The antivaxers make my head hurt. Dark Ages mentality.
Flu shots are kind of another horse, though... it's a scattershot preventative at best, every year.

192 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:54:13pm

re: #188 Dreader1962

It is a beautiful state, though.

Born and bred Michigander.

Same here, and I totally agree that it's got huge natural assets.

193 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:54:31pm

Since I enabled the contact form a few hours ago I've received 6 hate mails. Here's the latest:

amazing how fast you're blog has gone from a fair & balanced look at the world, to a poor man's version of the daily kos. you have drifted into the world of delusional left loony tunes, and it's quite sad to watch. you are a sexist, racist, religious bigot, and one stupid mother fucker to boot. keep on hating!

OK, IP block for you.

194 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:55:30pm

re: #186 Cato the Elder
The vaccine is running way behind, but they are rolling out the first doses of it here in about ten days. Hope it goes where it will do the most good.

195 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:56:28pm

re: #193 Charles

Since I enabled the contact form a few hours ago I've received 6 hate mails. Here's the latest:

OK, IP block for you.

Charles, you wrote that last line wrong. An IP block should be more like the Soup Nazi:

"IP block for you!" ;)

196 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:56:30pm

Have a great evening all!

197 Dreader1962  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:56:45pm

re: #192 SixDegrees

Same here, and I totally agree that it's got huge natural assets.

It's got huge ... tracts of land!

- Monty Python's Holy Grail reference.

198 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:56:55pm

re: #190 medaura18586

Come to think of it, I may be a bit nutty myself.

Old quote: "There's only two people I trust, thee and me. And I'm not so sure about thee...um, me...ah, hell. Is that vinho verde chilled yet?"

199 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:58:11pm

re: #145 Racer X

If I thought we could do it on-time and under budget I would be all for it. But we're talking Chicago here.

I'm not following you...There are few things in the whole history of this world that is magical..Every 4 years every country arrives at a site to compete...
Of all things mankind does..We fight wars..We kill on the taxpayers dime..We send billions of dollars in aid to countries that hate us..
Yet the one thing we as a people can be proud of..The only thing that ever brought the world together for 2 weeks...We worry about the cost and budget?
No way! F*ck Chicago..If they go broke hosting the games fine..Obama will sent them a check just like GM got..
The Olympics are our best angels. One of the few things the World has ever got right...We are just a few hellfire Missle $$$ away from bringing the world together for a couple of weeks...How do you put a price on that?
USA! USA! Is there a price to pride and joy?
Nobody here bitched about spending a million dollars in Iraq every minute..
Every 4 years there is magic around the whole world...
/hope you are well racerX...

200 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:58:21pm

re: #197 Dreader1962

Pig country!

LOL

201 SFGoth  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:58:22pm

And Meg Whitman, GOP candidate for CA governor, endorsed Barbra Boxer in 2003.
[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

202 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:58:38pm

re: #170 tradewind

Our Childrens' hospital, one of the best in the country, has set up a freaking tent to handle emergency drive-through H1N1 and other flulike illness cases, and it's still 80 degrees down here.

An acquaintance of mine died yesterday from complications brought on by an H1N1 infection. I didn't know her well, but many of my friends did. It was very surprising, as she was not elderly and was usually very healthy in general. She was somewhat overweight, but very strong and rather athletic, at least enough to regularly fight in SCA tournaments (full speed, full contact, Medieval fighting in period comparable armor). This flu is going to be a problem, a big problem. Get the immunization when available.

203 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:59:21pm

re: #194 tradewind

They are only getting 3 doses per egg

204 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:59:34pm

re: #161 SixDegrees

I would love to have Michigan host an event like this.

Never, ever gonna happen. There's simply not enough of anything in the way of support. Everything from stadiums to hotels to public transportation to major renovations of Metro Airport would be required to host something like this, and Michigan has nothing to even start with. We're in danger of losing the fucking auto show, fer cryin' out loud - that's how bad things have gotten.

The UP has a lot of what's needed for the winter Olympics - lots of cold, lots of snow - but it doesn't have anything in the way of access, accommodations or facilities. Lots of prestige, but a huge expense compared to other venues that already have a lot of what's needed in place.

no terrain for ski racing either

205 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 3:59:40pm

re: #186 Cato the Elder

We had the first child fatality in my state yesterday.

And the anti-vaxers, left and right - but particularly the brainless "organic cotton jeans" crowd - are yelling at people not to get the vaccine, if and when it becomes available.

As crass as it may sound, this is a self-limiting problem. Once a few babies die and the cause is easily shown to be something like pertussis, which no even thinks about anymore thanks to vaccines nearly eradicating this formerly deadly scourge, vaccinations will skyrocket and - with any luck - Jenny McCarthy will be tarred, feathered and run out of town.

206 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:00:50pm

re: #205 SixDegrees

They should be shown an old cemetery & all the sad little tombstones for children, who used to die in droves.

207 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:01:18pm

re: #181 funky chicken

It's spreading faster through the colleges and universities in the part of the country. They have shut down whole dorms and fraternity houses at a couple of schools, but that age is not very good at self-isolating. I had a real insurrection on my hands right before Kid was cleared to go back, he wanted to go out with friends a day before the ' all clear ' period ended and even guilting him about being a typhoid mary wasn't working too well.

208 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:01:35pm

re: #199 HoosierHoops

I'm not following you...There are few things in the whole history of this world that is magical..Every 4 years every country arrives at a site to compete...
Of all things mankind does..We fight wars..We kill on the taxpayers dime..We send billions of dollars in aid to countries that hate us..
Yet the one thing we as a people can be proud of..The only thing that ever brought the world together for 2 weeks...We worry about the cost and budget?
No way! F*ck Chicago..If they go broke hosting the games fine..Obama will sent them a check just like GM got..
The Olympics are our best angels. One of the few things the World has ever got right...We are just a few hellfire Missle $$$ away from bringing the world together for a couple of weeks...How do you put a price on that?
USA! USA! Is there a price to pride and joy?
Nobody here bitched about spending a million dollars in Iraq every minute..
Every 4 years there is magic around the whole world...
/hope you are well racerX...

Hoops, you always make me think. Thanks!

Very compelling argument.

209 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:02:34pm

re: #204 albusteve

no terrain for ski racing either

Not sure what all is required, but you could be right.

210 Jack Burton  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:03:27pm

re: #172 Charles

He's unbelievably pathetic. Not only did he come back from Kentucky with absolutely NO news at all about the census worker, he apparently spent most of his time hitting on a 20-year old girl (with several posts about the tattoo she wouldn't show him, slobber, drool) who turned out to be a lesbian.

The Bible quote is a perfect touch for that pathetic hypocritical racist creep.

I'm thinking if you look up 'douchebag' in the dictionary it says See: McCain, R.S.

211 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:03:48pm

re: #189 ggt

You are not alone. Daley spent too much money trying to get the Olympics and I think his approval ratings are way down today. Perhaps he will now concentrate on the City he was elected to govern.

approx half the people up there don't want the Games...it's just not a real popular notion...almost all games lose money

212 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:05:30pm

re: #209 SixDegrees

Not sure what all is required, but you could be right.

very high hills with long dramatic runs...I don't think the Hurons would fill the bill

213 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:06:13pm

re: #202 CyanSnowHawk

She must have gotten pneumonia, which is a complication sometimes.
From personal experience, I would urge anyone who has the symptoms to demand either relenza or tamiflu from their doctor, but it has to be started within 72 hours to be effective in preventing the complications. It doesn't cure the flu, but it stops the virus from replicating in your lungs, which is where the bad stuff happens... and shortens its duration.

214 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:06:30pm

re: #206 Ojoe

They should be shown an old cemetery & all the sad little tombstones for children, who used to die in droves.

We recently visited a few old cemeteries in the south; the number of infants and very young children is, by modern standards, appalling. It isn't unusual to find family plots with three or four children's graves, ages ranging from birth to five or six years old.

My grandmother remembered those times vividly, and saw childhood friends succumb to disease that are easily preventable today. She viewed vaccination as a miracle, one of mankind's most stunning achievements.

And she would kick Jenny McCarthy's ass from here into the next county if she heard the bilge that idiot pumps out of her mouth.

215 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:07:54pm

re: #213 tradewind

She must have gotten pneumonia, which is a complication sometimes.
From personal experience, I would urge anyone who has the symptoms to demand either relenza or tamiflu from their doctor, but it has to be started within 72 hours to be effective in preventing the complications. It doesn't cure the flu, but it stops the virus from replicating in your lungs, which is where the bad stuff happens... and shortens its duration.

Yes that was it.

216 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:08:29pm

re: #214 SixDegrees

The McCarthy-ites think the vaccines cause autism, which is ridiculous, because the thing they blame, thimerosal, was removed from the vaccines years ago, and autism continues to increase.

217 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:09:45pm

re: #202 CyanSnowHawk

An acquaintance of mine died yesterday from complications brought on by an H1N1 infection. I didn't know her well, but many of my friends did. It was very surprising, as she was not elderly and was usually very healthy in general. She was somewhat overweight, but very strong and rather athletic, at least enough to regularly fight in SCA tournaments (full speed, full contact, Medieval fighting in period comparable armor). This flu is going to be a problem, a big problem. Get the immunization when available.

You can get the regular seasonal flu vaccine already. The H1N1 is being rolled out. And from what I understand, you have to have the regular one before you can get it. So everybody, do it now. The shots are readily available - even some supermarket pharmacies are giving them out.

218 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:10:29pm

re: #215 CyanSnowHawk

Sorry for your friends' loss.
(What is SCA? You totally lost me when the medieval/full contact/fighting thing started...).

219 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:10:31pm

re: #205 SixDegrees

As crass as it may sound, this is a self-limiting problem. Once a few babies die and the cause is easily shown to be something like pertussis, which no even thinks about anymore thanks to vaccines nearly eradicating this formerly deadly scourge, vaccinations will skyrocket and - with any luck - Jenny McCarthy will be tarred, feathered and run out of town.

I'd pay to see that.

220 funky chicken  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:11:38pm

re: #213 tradewind

She must have gotten pneumonia, which is a complication sometimes.
From personal experience, I would urge anyone who has the symptoms to demand either relenza or tamiflu from their doctor, but it has to be started within 72 hours to be effective in preventing the complications. It doesn't cure the flu, but it stops the virus from replicating in your lungs, which is where the bad stuff happens... and shortens its duration.

Yep. And get the pneumovax vaccine. I took my kids in for it, and the nurse at the health department looked at me funny, and told me that they usually only give it to "high risk" people (elderly, immunocompromised, etc). CDC says it's a very underutilized vaccine.

I told her to go ahead and administer it. I got mine too, even though none of us are high risk for pneumonia.

221 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:12:43pm

re: #216 tradewind

The McCarthy-ites think the vaccines cause autism, which is ridiculous, because the thing they blame, thimerosal, was removed from the vaccines years ago, and autism continues to increase.

Heard it all before. So have they, but they just ignore the facts and continue bleating.

If I ever meet McCarthy, I want to ask her to her face if she thinks that maybe her own history of drug abuse and her boob augmentation may have contributed to her child's condition.

Then I want to ask her if she can add two and two together, and if she can read.

222 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:13:30pm

re: #217 Cato the Elder

You can get the regular seasonal flu vaccine already. The H1N1 is being rolled out. And from what I understand, you have to have the regular one before you can get it. So everybody, do it now. The shots are readily available - even some supermarket pharmacies are giving them out.

I'll make sure to get it done. My insurance will cover it.

223 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:13:45pm

re: #183 tradewind

Umm, run through TOTUS' speeches. You'll hear the president toss out an 'awesome 'every now and then... when he's not all wee-wee'd up about something, that is.

Sorry, I don't take advice from people who think "TOTUS" is a funny slur on the President.

224 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:15:58pm

re: #221 SixDegrees

Heard it all before. So have they, but they just ignore the facts and continue bleating.

If I ever meet McCarthy, I want to ask her to her face if she thinks that maybe her own history of drug abuse and her boob augmentation may have contributed to her child's condition.

Then I want to ask her if she can add two and two together, and if she can read.

for real?...I've not followed her story

225 Spare O'Lake  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:16:50pm

re: #205 SixDegrees

As crass as it may sound, this is a self-limiting problem. Once a few babies die and the cause is easily shown to be something like pertussis, which no even thinks about anymore thanks to vaccines nearly eradicating this formerly deadly scourge, vaccinations will skyrocket and - with any luck - Jenny McCarthy will be tarred, feathered and run out of town.

Nekkid. On a rail.

226 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:18:10pm

re: #225 Spare O'Lake

Nekkid. On a rail.

Leave off the tarring and feathering while leaving your part and you could sell the photos for a tidy sum.

227 A Man for all Seasons  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:18:21pm

re: #208 Racer X

Hoops, you always make me think. Thanks!

Very compelling argument.

You are good people RacerX..
BTW.. I'm pissed at the Pacers...I wrote Larry Bird about our first pre-season game tonight...I asked them to donate the proceeds tonight to our Military fighting for our freedom.. Call it Hoops for Troops...
I got a no..What did the Pacers do tonight? They gave away free tickets so people would show up tonight...Is that how PR works these days?
Idiots...Pacers are going broke.. OK I get that...You don't think Hoosiers will support our Military? You don't think we could create goodwill for our Soldiers fighting for us? Who is running the PR dept? Yea..I'm looking at you Pacers...Dumbasses..Go broke..I'm not supporting you if you can't support America...

228 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:19:19pm

re: #219 Cato the Elder I don't know... we should listen to those overpaid celebrities talk about health care, or something terrible might happen...

229 Racer X  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:20:56pm

re: #227 HoosierHoops

You are good people RacerX..
BTW.. I'm pissed at the Pacers...I wrote Larry Bird about our first pre-season game tonight...I asked them to donate the proceeds tonight to our Military fighting for our freedom.. Call it Hoops for Troops...
I got a no..What did the Pacers do tonight? They gave away free tickets so people would show up tonight...Is that how PR works these days?
Idiots...Pacers are going broke.. OK I get that...You don't think Hoosiers will support our Military? You don't think we could create goodwill for our Soldiers fighting for us? Who is running the PR dept? Yea..I'm looking at you Pacers...Dumbasses..Go broke..I'm not supporting you if you can't support America...

Man they would double the attendance and make it all back selling $8 beers.

230 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:21:02pm

re: #223 Cato the Elder

I don't think it's a funny slur on the president of the US. It's just very descriptive when he's speaking in public, and easier than typing ' Obama speaking from a teleprompter'.
Lighten up.///

231 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:21:44pm

re: #227 HoosierHoops

You are good people RacerX..
BTW.. I'm pissed at the Pacers...I wrote Larry Bird about our first pre-season game tonight...I asked them to donate the proceeds tonight to our Military fighting for our freedom.. Call it Hoops for Troops...
I got a no..What did the Pacers do tonight? They gave away free tickets so people would show up tonight...Is that how PR works these days?
Idiots...Pacers are going broke.. OK I get that...You don't think Hoosiers will support our Military? You don't think we could create goodwill for our Soldiers fighting for us? Who is running the PR dept? Yea..I'm looking at you Pacers...Dumbasses..Go broke..I'm not supporting you if you can't support America...

going broke?, in Indiana?...man, that's rad

232 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:23:01pm

re: #230 tradewind

I don't think it's a funny slur on the president of the US. It's just very descriptive when he's speaking in public, and easier than typing ' Obama speaking from a teleprompter'.
Lighten up.///

well darn it, I have to agree with Cato...by now we all get the point

233 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:24:02pm

re: #232 albusteve

Fine. Switching to Big O.

234 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:24:10pm

re: #4 CyanSnowHawk

Where is the heir to William F. Buckley already?

This is a time of conservative senescence. The movement is at an ebb, and there are no quality leaders being pushed to the fore. Or pundits either, speaking of WFB.

235 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:24:34pm

re: #218 tradewind

Sorry for your friends' loss.
(What is SCA? You totally lost me when the medieval/full contact/fighting thing started...).

Society For Creative Anachronism. Worldwide organization that promotes the teaching of history through real life reenactment. We learn or rediscover the skills of period artisans, cooks, leathersmiths, blacksmiths, woodworkers, et al, and create new works with those skills. We focus on mainly on 1000-1600CE but some groups I interact with go as far back as early Roman Empire.

The fighting is great fun but not truly period, I mean, how many times have you heard of a squad of Romans backed by Spartans trying to take a bridge held by Varangian Guards? However, the equipment we make and use can be very authentic to the period of our personas.

236 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:25:19pm

re: #233 tradewind

Fine. Switching to Big O.

I'm not trying to change your mind

237 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:25:22pm

re: #233 tradewind

Fine. Switching to Big O.

I'm sticking with The One.

238 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:26:42pm

re: #237 The Sanity Inspector

I'm sticking with The One.

for me it's all about keystrokes...God only gives us so many keystrokes and we should use them wisely

239 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:26:44pm

re: #235 CyanSnowHawk
Allrighty then.
:)
I'm glad you told me... if I had stumbled across one of those, I might have called the cops...

240 Chekote  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:28:15pm

I just found out today that Michelle Bachmann will be one of the featured speakers at the upcoming RJC women's conference. A groups of us are getting together tonight and to organize a protest. I am tired of this loon tarring the rest of us on the political right.

241 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:28:36pm

re: #235 CyanSnowHawk

Society For Creative Anachronism. Worldwide organization that promotes the teaching of history through real life reenactment. We learn or rediscover the skills of period artisans, cooks, leathersmiths, blacksmiths, woodworkers, et al, and create new works with those skills. We focus on mainly on 1000-1600CE but some groups I interact with go as far back as early Roman Empire.

The fighting is great fun but not truly period, I mean, how many times have you heard of a squad of Romans backed by Spartans trying to take a bridge held by Varangian Guards? However, the equipment we make and use can be very authentic to the period of our personas.

I never, ever pass up a living museum or re-enactment type thing, no matter how small...I love that stuff and good for you

242 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:28:38pm

re: #237 The Sanity Inspector

See, that has one more letter than T-that-shall-not-be-typed.
Hell's bells... every president needs a nickname. Bubba had his, Dubya had his... what are the options. You can't even go there with his middle name, so you're pretty much stuck with variations on O.

243 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:29:25pm

re: #240 Chekote

Awesome!!

244 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:30:36pm

re: #239 tradewind

Allrighty then.
:)
I'm glad you told me... if I had stumbled across one of those, I might have called the cops...

It's happened before. There are great stories that get told around many campfires at overnight events. They usually start off with "No Shit, there I was..."

245 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:34:08pm

re: #230 tradewind

I don't think it's a funny slur on the president of the US. It's just very descriptive when he's speaking in public, and easier than typing ' Obama speaking from a teleprompter'.
Lighten up.///

Umm...what president in living memory didn't use a TelePromTer (official company spelling)?

It's like criticizing him for flying in Air Force One, or riding in the presidential limo.

Grow up.

246 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:35:50pm

Conservatives Revel In Obama's Olympic Bid Failure (video)

Upon being informed of the news, a gathering of conservatives at the Americans For Prosperity -- one of the main organizing groups behind the tea party protests -- erupted in applause. They cheered once more after they were told that Chicago had been eliminated during the first round of voting. The moment was captured on video (below) and reported by Hotline On Call:

247 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:35:57pm

re: #240 Chekote

I just found out today that Michelle Bachmann will be one of the featured speakers at the upcoming RJC women's conference. A groups of us are getting together tonight and to organize a protest. I am tired of this loon tarring the rest of us on the political right.

Please let us know how this ends up turning out.

I really hope there are enough people there who are unwillling to blindly "follow" a person because the person happens to have a bit of visibility, that your action will cause some folks to start thinking harder about what they will support and what they won't support. Oh, how I hope.

So please let us know what happens!

248 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:38:20pm

re: #245 Cato the Elder
Of course they all use them for prepared speeches. But no other president has embraced its use like Obama and has seemed so completely at a loss without one. It's more like an umbilical cord than a TeLePrompter, and he has been seen on more than one occasion visibly perturbed when it is either absent or malfunctioning.
It's not such a deal, really, cato, and I wasn't 'giving you advice'... merely noting that O himself has been known to fire off an 'awesome' or two in a speech, without anyone accusing him of ValleySpeak.

249 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:40:24pm

re: #248 tradewind

Of course they all use them for prepared speeches. But no other president has embraced its use like Obama and has seemed so completely at a loss without one. It's more like an umbilical cord than a TeLePrompter, and he has been seen on more than one occasion visibly perturbed when it is either absent or malfunctioning.

So goes the right-wing talking point.

I'd like to see some independent numbers on that, if such can be produced.

You know, something that didn't come from NewsMax or WND.

250 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:40:24pm

re: #245 Cato the Elder

Umm...what president in living memory didn't use a TelePromTer (official company spelling)?

It's like criticizing him for flying in Air Force One, or riding in the presidential limo.

Grow up.

Clinton--sort of. The famous SOTU where the teleprompter wigged out and he delivered the entire speech contemporaneously. The public was none the wiser. Reagan used the teleprompter, but could deliver a fine speech from notes jotted on index cards.

251 theheat  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:41:15pm

re: #240 Chekote

Whose idea was it to cram that moron down other women's throats? Lemme guess, because she represents the ideals of "true" conservative women? Ugh. If no one speaks up about this, they'll keep inflicting her on the party as if she's mainstream. And the more she appears, the more she's validated - the perpetual motion machine of stupid. Regardless, I really hope your protest goes well. The fact there are other women that think the same, enough to protest, gives me hope.

252 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:41:16pm

Progress?
Iran Agrees to Send Enriched Uranium to Russia

Iran agreed on Thursday in talks with the United States and other major powers to open its newly revealed uranium enrichment plant near Qum to international inspection in the next two weeks and to send most of its openly declared enriched uranium outside Iran to be turned into fuel for a small reactor that produces medical isotopes, senior American and other Western officials said.

Iran’s agreement in principle to export most of its enriched uranium for processing — if it happens — would represent a major accomplishment for the West, reducing Iran’s ability to make a nuclear weapon quickly and buying more time for negotiations to bear fruit.

If Iran has secret stockpiles of enriched uranium, however, the accomplishment would be hollow, a senior American official conceded.

253 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:41:32pm

contemporaneously extemporaneously ...heh

254 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:42:57pm

re: #252 Killgore Trout

Progress?
Iran Agrees to Send Enriched Uranium to Russia

Trust...but verify.

255 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:43:58pm

re: #249 Cato the Elder

That was snarky, hostile, and provocative, Cato. Downding.

256 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:44:08pm

re: #254 BryanS

I have a suspicion that the Iranians aren't going to agree to anything that will seriously hinder their ability to make a bomb.

257 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:44:38pm

re: #252 Killgore Trout

Progress?
Iran Agrees to Send Enriched Uranium to Russia

trust Iran and Russia?...I don't think so

258 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:45:31pm

re: #256 Killgore Trout

I have a suspicion that the Iranians aren't going to agree to anything that will seriously hinder their ability to make a bomb.

Yeah, I hear you. But there has to be a rather intrusive inspection regime. It's this kind of arrangement, or war. Neither option is very good.

259 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:45:55pm

re: #249 Cato the Elder

I don't read either publication you specified below, but you wouldn't need a link. Just flip through some video. The president speaks eloquently from the prompter, but stumbles through an inordinate amount of uh's,

um

',s and just plain dead air when it is absent. Actually, it started to be a point of conversation among the talking heads, and there was a remix that circulated making that very contrast quite clear.
Again... it's not worth the volleying.. I'm done with it. Carry on if you feel the need ;.

260 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:46:05pm

re: #256 Killgore Trout

I have a suspicion that the Iranians aren't going to agree to anything that will seriously hinder their ability to make a bomb.

Concur. You were right to caption the story the way you did, Killgore.

261 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:46:56pm

re: #252 Killgore Trout

Just great.
Although I am more worried about them letting it slip to some motley collection of terrorists holed up in a cave.

262 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:48:54pm

Would anyone like a mouse?

263 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:48:56pm

assume the dire worst with Iran...you will be correct more times than not...the Mullahs and Putin are cold blooded killers...these schemes are laughable

264 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:51:42pm

re: #262 wrenchwench
If Kitteh would like a vacation, she can visit for a few days... I suspect I have one of the meeses' relatives in my attic, and I am not fond of rodents.

265 ~Fianna  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:52:43pm

re: #51 iceweasel

BOOP! BOOP! SHRIEKING HARPY ALERT!

This is such a farrago of FAIL I don't know where to begin.

Pammy has a new post up, advertising an "intimate evening with Pam Gellar"

Actual text written by her:

I sense an urban dictionary definition in the making.

Oh that's just... thinking about that makes me want to join a nunnery.

What's with the right wingnuts and the odd sexual puns, anyway?

//And not the Shakespearean kind, either.

266 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:53:05pm

re: #264 tradewind

If Kitteh would like a vacation, she can visit for a few days... I suspect I have one of the meeses' relatives in my attic, and I am not fond of rodents.

Cats hate meeses to pieces.

267 MJ  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:54:04pm

Obama’s French Lesson

Sarkozy could not conceal his astonishment at Obama’s naïveté.

By Charles Krauthammer

“President Obama, I support the Americans’ outstretched hand. But what did the international community gain from these offers of dialogue? Nothing.” — French president Nicolas Sarkozy, September 24

When France chides you for appeasement, you know you’re scraping bottom...


[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

268 ~Fianna  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:55:44pm

re: #74 Cato the Elder

Again: Geller, not Gellar. Leave Buffy's tits out of this.

I'd rather think of those. Thanks for providing a compensatory image. I think maybe, if I focus on that and stay in my happy place, I'll be okay.

269 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:56:41pm

re: #267 MJ

Obama’s French Lesson

Sarkozy could not conceal his astonishment at Obama’s naïveté.

By Charles Krauthammer


[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

I propose (again) a president exchange. We get Sarkozy, France can have Obama.

270 Chekote  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:58:30pm

re: #247 reine.de.tout

Will do. Unfortunately, too many people focus on what we agree on and ignore the baggage. Ron Paul says some things that I agree with but I will not overlook his baggage. Just because someone is good on Israel, it doesn't mean the RJC must overlook their outrageous positions or antics.

271 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:59:45pm

I figured out what Letterman can do good once in awhile...of course he probably has no clue

272 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 4:59:46pm

re: #270 Chekote

Will do. Unfortunately, too many people focus on what we agree on and ignore the baggage. Ron Paul says some things that I agree with but I will not overlook his baggage. Just because someone is good on Israel, it doesn't mean the RJC must overlook their outrageous positions or antics.

How is Ron Paul good on Israel?

273 MJ  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:01:17pm

re: #272 BryanS

How is Ron Paul good on Israel?

He's probably one of the worst Representatives when it comes to Israel. I take that back- he's the worst.

274 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:02:07pm

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

That was snarky, hostile, and provocative, Cato. Downding.

And your point is?

275 Chekote  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:02:47pm

re: #251 theheat

That's what I intend to find out. Why would they invited Bachmann and herald her as "Great speaker". The woman is a total loon. I plan to send them links documenting the outrageous stuff Bachmann has said and ask whether they feel comfortable with someone like that representing them as Jewish Republicans. We are never going to expand the appeal of the GOP in the Jewish community as long as the "Bachmanns" are the face of the party.

276 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:04:01pm

re: #273 MJ

He's probably one of the worst Representatives when it comes to Israel. I take that back- he's the worst.

I was thinking the same thing--he's got that Jewish conspiracy thing going on.

277 Chekote  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:04:28pm

re: #272 BryanS


Sorry. I meant Bachmann and other speakers might be good on Israel. So sorry. Obviously Paul IS NOT GOOD ON Israel or foreign policy period.

278 Jack Burton  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:04:55pm

re: #272 BryanS

How is Ron Paul good on Israel?

He's not by any stretch of the imagination, I'm pretty sure Chekote was talking about Bachmann, and comparing her 'stopped clock is right 2 times a day' disposition with Luap Nor.

279 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:06:26pm

re: #277 Chekote

Sorry. I meant Bachmann and other speakers might be good on Israel. So sorry. Obviously Paul IS NOT GOOD ON Israel or foreign policy period.

Thanx for the clarification--wasn't sure I was understanding your correctly. Don't know much about Bachmann vis-a-vis Israel.

280 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:08:20pm

re: #266 Dark_Falcon

Okay, sign me up, as long as they won't leave any messy meese's pieces lying around.

281 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:08:26pm

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

That was snarky, hostile, and provocative, Cato. Downding.

I'm getting pretty hostile to people ragging on Obama's teleprompter use myself. That's what's important? That's the burning huge issue? The technology by which he delivers speeches? Really?

282 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:09:25pm

the problem with Ron Paul is his flat affect...he's a droner and it's easy to lose his message...now Palin, on the other hand, is a dynamic, exciting personality that is hard to ignore...Palin looks good, feels, good and her vibrant personna is hard to dismiss...eh?

283 Ojoe  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:10:11pm

Meanwhile, over at Newsmax:

"House Minority Leader John Boehner wonders how Democrats can say, with a straight face, that they're protecting Medicare. He describes the Democratic plan as a 'garlic milkshake.' Republicans have countered the Democrats' efforts with several plans of their own, he said...

MMMmmm!

Garlic Milkshake

That actually might be good for your health.

BBL!

284 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:10:20pm

re: #5 buzzsawmonkey

He bestrides the earth like a homunculus.

Man, that is gross.

285 ~Fianna  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:12:33pm

re: #269 Dark_Falcon

I propose (again) a president exchange. We get Sarkozy, France can have Obama.

The right would flip out over that, since he's very, very pro-Science and anti-religion.

He's done more about global warming (as has Angela Merkel) than any other EU leader that I can think of.

286 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:12:45pm

re: #281 WindUpBird

I'm getting pretty hostile to people ragging on Obama's teleprompter use myself. That's what's important? That's the burning huge issue? The technology by which he delivers speeches? Really?

It's a pretty silly complaint--but Obama was supposed to be so eloquent compared to his predecessor. He was supposed to be a fresh change of pace from the verbal buffoonery of Bush, but it's just a show. That's the point. It's a partisan swipe/payback for the left's mocking of Bush's, well, Bushisms.

287 MJ  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:13:35pm

A great man has died:

Warsaw ghetto uprising leader Edelman dies at 90

WARSAW, Poland – Marek Edelman, the last surviving leader of the ill-fated 1943 Warsaw ghetto revolt against the Nazis, died Friday at the age of 90...

...Most of Edelman's adult life was dedicated to the defense of human life, dignity and freedom. He fought the Nazis in the doomed Warsaw ghetto revolt and later in the Warsaw city Uprising. And then for decades he fought communism in Poland...

..In in my memory as a fighting hero, a man of great courage," Weiss said. "He never ceased in his struggle for human freedom and for Poland's freedom..."

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

288 ~Fianna  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:14:30pm

re: #282 albusteve

the problem with Ron Paul is his flat affect...he's a droner and it's easy to lose his message...now Palin, on the other hand, is a dynamic, exciting personality that is hard to ignore...Palin looks good, feels, good and her vibrant personna is hard to dismiss...eh?

I find it pretty easy to dismiss anyone who hangs out with racists, personally.

I wasn't surprised by what Charles dug up. At. all.

289 Abu Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:14:51pm

Whoa!

I'd totally forgotten I had this (rather blatantly obvious) sockpuppet.

290 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:15:22pm

re: #281 WindUpBird

Nobody was ragging on it ... that nickname has long ago been incorporated into the vernacular, without forethought . Cato evidently has a splinter in his paw about something and decided to make an issue of it. It's so Ovuh.
It's not as if someone called the president Chimp or Shrub.
Then again, no one would do that.

291 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:15:23pm

re: #285 ~Fianna

The right would flip out over that, since he's very, very pro-Science and anti-religion.

Snarky. He isn't religious, as are most Frenchmen, and Europeans in general. Only Americans, and Muslims, equate that with anti religion.

292 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:16:13pm

re: #282 albusteve

the one of the many problems with Ron Paul is his flat affect...he's a droner and it's easy to lose his message...now Palin, on the other hand, is a dynamic, exciting personality that is hard to ignore...Palin looks good, feels, good and her vibrant personna is hard to dismiss...eh?

this what you meant?

293 ~Fianna  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:16:58pm

re: #291 Naso Tang

Snarky. He isn't religious, as are most Frenchmen, and Europeans in general. Only Americans, and Muslims, equate that with anti religion.

You don't think that the far-Right would consider Sarkozy anti-religion? They already scream about how we don't have enough religion in the public square.

294 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:18:07pm

re: #293 ~Fianna

You don't think that the far-Right would consider Sarkozy anti-religion? They already scream about how we don't have enough religion in the public square.

Alas, this country is nowhere near ready to elect a non-religious president, let alone an atheist one.

295 Abu Occasional Reader  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:18:26pm

re: #294 BryanS

Alas, this country is nowhere near ready to elect a non-religious president, let alone an atheist one.

Dang. There goes my planned career switch.

296 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:19:25pm

re: #292 BryanS

this what you meant?

just farting around

297 rollwave87  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:20:37pm

Michelle Bachman doesn't represent the Twilight Zone. Don't diss Rod Sterling like that. The idiots in Minnesota who elected her deserve to have their name dragged through the mud by this moron. Just like the 'people' in Texas who elected Ron Paul. The 'tards who send these people to Washington shouldn't be let off the hook.

298 ~Fianna  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:21:23pm

re: #294 BryanS

Alas, this country is nowhere near ready to elect a non-religious president, let alone an atheist one.

I think you could probably extend that further... most people in this country are no where near ready to elect an non-Protestant Christian president. Lieberman's candidacy was not helped by the fact that he's a Jew, nor Romney's by his Mormon faith and there's some evidence that Giuliani was penalized for being Catholic. I couldn't even imagine a Hindu or Buddhist trying to run, never mind succeeding.

299 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:21:23pm

re: #293 ~Fianna

You don't think that the far-Right would consider Sarkozy anti-religion? They already scream about how we don't have enough religion in the public square.

Of course I agree, but my point is that you suggested he is fundamentally anti religious. I don't know that.

My reaction is based on the implied recognition that non religious is anti religious; but I don't mean that is necessarily your view. Perhaps I am being pedantic.

300 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:22:23pm

re: #297 rollwave87

Michelle Bachman doesn't represent the Twilight Zone. Don't diss Rod Sterling like that. The idiots in Minnesota who elected her deserve to have their name dragged through the mud by this moron. Just like the 'people' in Texas who elected Ron Paul. The 'tards who send these people to Washington shouldn't be let off the hook.

Can we say the same thing about Pelosi? Murtha? Rangel? Dodd?

301 ~Fianna  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:22:36pm

re: #299 Naso Tang

Of course I agree, but my point is that you suggested he is fundamentally anti religious. I don't know that.

My reaction is based on the implied recognition that non religious is anti religious; but I don't mean that is necessarily your view. Perhaps I am being pedantic.

No, I can see where you got that. Context was clearer in my mind than it came out.

I just meant that the far right would howl that he wasn't "conservative enough" since he's on the wrong end of their pet issues.

Later lizardim, I'm off for my math mid-term.

302 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:23:04pm

re: #300 BryanS

Can we say the same thing about Pelosi? Murtha? Rangel? Dodd?

Sure. Fire away.

303 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:23:42pm

re: #298 ~Fianna

I'm pretty sure John F. Kennedy was a Catholic. It made the news a few times ...

/

304 albusteve  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:24:36pm

re: #303 OldLineTexan

I'm pretty sure John F. Kennedy was a Catholic. It made the news a few times ...

/

not only that, but he was IRISH!...OMGod!

305 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:25:22pm

re: #298 ~Fianna

I think you could probably extend that further... most people in this country are no where near ready to elect an non-Protestant Christian president. Lieberman's candidacy was not helped by the fact that he's a Jew, nor Romney's by his Mormon faith and there's some evidence that Giuliani was penalized for being Catholic. I couldn't even imagine a Hindu or Buddhist trying to run, never mind succeeding.

Very true. Evan Jindal's wearing his Christianity on his sleeves wasn't enough to stop opponents from claiming he was a Hindu--same with Obama and claims he's a secret Muslim.

306 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:25:29pm

re: #300 BryanS

Can we say the same thing about Pelosi? Murtha? Rangel? Dodd?

That would be mean!/

I am, however, pissed that my neighbors in Texas (they are people, BTW) keep electing Ron Paul. However, some of my other neighbors (also people!) keep electing Sheila Jackson Lee.

307 Henchman Ghazi-808  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:25:49pm

re: #298 ~Fianna

Actually, I'd love a Jewish president right after a black one, then go with an Latino then maybe an Asian.

We really should vote for the person and not the race/nationality but I think it would sweat all the crazy out faster.

308 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:25:49pm

re: #304 albusteve

not only that, but he was IRISH!...OMGod!

I knew I liked something about him.

309 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:26:25pm

re: #301 ~Fianna

No, I can see where you got that. Context was clearer in my mind than it came out.

I just meant that the far right would howl that he wasn't "conservative enough" since he's on the wrong end of their pet issues.

Later lizardim, I'm off for my math mid-term.

Friday night midterms--how obnoxious. Good luck.

310 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:27:44pm

re: #307 BigPapa

Actually, I'd love a Jewish president right after a black one, then go with an Latino then maybe an Asian.

We really should vote for the person and not the race/nationality but I think it would sweat all the crazy out faster.

How about suggesting that given all the religious crap going around, the only validly neutral candidate has to be an atheist?

311 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:28:15pm

re: #306 OldLineTexan

That would be mean!/

I am, however, pissed that my neighbors in Texas (they are people, BTW) keep electing Ron Paul. However, some of my other neighbors (also people!) keep electing Sheila Jackson Lee.

Two politicians right there that desperately need to be shown a new line of work.

312 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:28:55pm

re: #310 Naso Tang

How about suggesting that given all the religious crap going around, the only validly neutral candidate has to be an atheist?

I'm not reanimating Madalyn Murray O'Hair just for you.

/

313 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:29:47pm

re: #311 BryanS

Two politicians right there that desperately need to be shown a new line of work.

It should be very difficult to pretend at this point in time that only one side of the aisle sucks. There is enough suck to go around, several times.

314 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:30:40pm

re: #311 BryanS

Two politicians right there that desperately need to be shown a new line of work.

I still like 'people' in hemi-scare quotes.

That'll frame a constructive debate.

315 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:31:22pm

re: #312 OldLineTexan

I'm not reanimating Madalyn Murray O'Hair just for you.

/

She was a crazy bitch who is mainly known for just that. Why not me? (Except that I'm not crazy enough to want to be president).

316 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:32:06pm

re: #315 Naso Tang

She was a crazy bitch who is mainly known for just that. Why not me? (Except that I'm not crazy enough to want to be president).

Well, crap, you just disqualified yourself!

;)

317 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:32:17pm

re: #313 OldLineTexan

It should be very difficult to pretend at this point in time that only one side of the aisle sucks. There is enough suck to go around, several times.

That is so true. If ever the two parties risk a third getting in the way, now is the time. They sometimes come out of the blue--would be nice to rock the boat a little so some sense can be beaten into the established parties. A centrist party would be perfect--would scare the crap out of both.

318 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:33:57pm

re: #286 BryanS

It's a pretty silly complaint--but Obama was supposed to be so eloquent compared to his predecessor. He was supposed to be a fresh change of pace from the verbal buffoonery of Bush, but it's just a show. That's the point. It's a partisan swipe/payback for the left's mocking of Bush's, well, Bushisms.

It was stupid then, it's stupid now. Obama IS more eloquent than his predecessor, and it is ALSO a show. All presidential speeches are a show, and some leaders are more skilled at the show than others. You can really like Bush and still admit with intellectual honesty, that speeches were not his strength.

319 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:36:32pm

re: #318 WindUpBird

It was stupid then, it's stupid now. Obama IS more eloquent than his predecessor, and it is ALSO a show. All presidential speeches are a show, and some leaders are more skilled at the show than others. You can really like Bush and still admit with intellectual honesty, that speeches were not his strength.

Come on! "is our children learning" was so moving and so inspiring that even Teddy joined the No Child Left Behind brigade.

320 tradewind  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:46:49pm

re: #319 BryanS

No, the real inspiration was the former vice president, Al Gore. I still get tears in my eyes at the thought of that inspiring comment he made as he reminded us all that ' e pluribus unum.. ' From One, Many'.***
That's when Kennedy realized we had a serious education problem in the country.
***/not/

321 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:54:14pm

re: #317 BryanS

That is so true. If ever the two parties risk a third getting in the way, now is the time. They sometimes come out of the blue--would be nice to rock the boat a little so some sense can be beaten into the established parties. A centrist party would be perfect--would scare the crap out of both.

What we need is another Perot? Nader? Give me a break.

I think what we need is a majority of Independent voters and then let the two parties suck up for votes, instead of just preaching to the converted.

Last thing we want is a bunch of single issue parties and coalitions like one sees in Europe.

322 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:55:12pm

re: #321 Naso Tang

ETA: or Israel.

323 rollwave87  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 5:56:23pm

re: #300 BryanS

Can we say the same thing about Pelosi? Murtha? Rangel? Dodd?

no. those people aren't loony enough to be the Dem equivalents of Runt Paul and Bachmann. you need to dig even deeper into the dumpster. say, someone like Cynthia McKinney. she would be their dem counterpart. and yeah, I know the voters who elect them are people. I put it in quotes because their stupidity seems to require it.

324 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:00:19pm

re: #323 rollwave87

no. those people aren't loony enough to be the Dem equivalents of Runt Paul and Bachmann. you need to dig even deeper into the dumpster. say, someone like Cynthia McKinney. she would be their dem counterpart. and yeah, I know the voters who elect them are people. I put it in quotes because their stupidity seems to require it.

Rangel is normal. Sure, OK, whatever ... 'people' is still a pretty bizarre take on your fellow Americans.

325 BryanS  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:04:03pm

re: #323 rollwave87

no. those people aren't loony enough to be the Dem equivalents of Runt Paul and Bachmann. you need to dig even deeper into the dumpster. say, someone like Cynthia McKinney. she would be their dem counterpart. and yeah, I know the voters who elect them are people. I put it in quotes because their stupidity seems to require it.

Cynthia McKinney is bat-shit crazy, no doubt. But all the others I mention also have serious flaws that make one wonder why they keep getting reelected. Perhaps not Pelosi if you are a hard core leftist, but the rest all have ethics issues, but keep getting back in.

326 mikhailtheplumber  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:09:18pm

re: #14 Gus 802

The new face of the GOP: WingBats ™

Actually, it's Batwings™. Now with extra crazy sauce.

327 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:12:33pm

re: #290 tradewind

Nobody was ragging on it ... that nickname has long ago been incorporated into the vernacular, without forethought.

The right-wing ODS vernacular, to be precise, and adopted without forethought (or, as I believe is the case, without thought of any kind) by Obama-hating parrots. That would be you.

re: #255 Dark_Falcon

That was snarky, hostile, and provocative, Cato. Downding.

Apparently not everybody feels that way. Check the dings.

328 rollwave87  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:13:12pm

re: #324 OldLineTexan

Rangel is normal. Sure, OK, whatever ... 'people' is still a pretty bizarre take on your fellow Americans.

Compared to Ron '911 was an inside job' Paul? Yeah, Charlie is normal. Having the gov't pay for your Caddy or whatever Rangel did is slimy but nowhere near as bad or dangerous as ppl like the 2 in the video above.
I say all this as someone who has been a registered Repub since the day I turned 18 in 2005. I think that as rational GOPers we should be the most vocal critics of the loons who make the rest of us look bad.

329 OldLineTexan  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:15:01pm

re: #328 rollwave87

You've apparently missed a lot of Charlie's rants.

Doesn't excuse Luap Nor, but Luap Nor doesn't excuse 'people', either.

330 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 6:44:51pm

re: #297 rollwave87

Michelle Bachman doesn't represent the Twilight Zone. Don't diss Rod Sterling Serling like that.

I came here to say almost exactly that. "The Twilight Zone", at least the original series, stands up against 98% of the stuff that passes for dramatic TV today.

By the way, the absolute best way to watch The Twilight Zone is late at night, in bed or laying on the couch.

331 Hawaii69  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:05:46pm

re: #105 Killgore Trout

"Hahahahaha," wrote Red State's Erick Erickson. "So Obama's pimped us to every two bit thug and dictator in the world, made promises to half the Olympic committee, and they did not even kiss him. So much for improving America's standing in the world, Barry O."


TPM has a nice roundup...

They didn't even get this excited over defunding ACORN.

There's some serious maturity issues with any adult who types out "Hahahahaha" to gloat on the internet, and snarkily refers to the president as "Barry O". I suppose he at least retrained himself from typing "PWNED!"

It's particularly sad for someone whose name is preceded by the words "Managing Editor".

He must really be a force to reckon with in the online gaming world...

332 Achilles Tang  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:10:21pm

I seem to recall a principle that presidents should never get themselves involved in any negotiation when they are not pretty damn sure they know what the outcome will be.

333 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 7:34:12pm

re: #332 Naso Tang

I seem to recall a principle that presidents should never get themselves involved in any negotiation when they are not pretty damn sure they know what the outcome will be.

In that case, the outcomes of both WWII and the Cuban missile crisis would have been severely different, to name just two that spring immediately to mind.

334 BlackFedora  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 9:49:27pm

Oh boy.

Federal Reserve discussion. I'm so sick of nonsense about the Federal Reserve by people who are LYING their asses off about the way it works.

335 ~Fianna  Fri, Oct 2, 2009 11:10:59pm

re: #309 BryanS

Friday night midterms--how obnoxious. Good luck.

Thanks. It went well, but oh hell was it a long test.


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