About That New FTC Rule

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Blogosphere • Tue Oct 6, 2009 at 8:39 am PDT • Views: 220

The Federal Trade Commission has new guidelines that will apply to bloggers who endorse products.

An existing FTC rule that states product reviewers must reveal any connection they have with advertisers was extended to bloggers. Companies will often distribute free products to bloggers for their review, and sometimes advertisers offer payment for endorsements. The FTC said that endorsements on blogs appear to be “word of mouth,” but that is not always the case — sometimes companies create their own blogs that can give the aura of objectivity.

These guidelines don’t worry me at all as far as LGF is concerned; I’ve never endorsed a product at LGF because I was given money to do it, or because I was given a free product in return. I have reviewed products, such as the Kindle or the Roomba, and I’ll usually provide a link to Amazon so that interested people can buy it for themselves. When I do that, I receive a small cut of the price, through Amazon’s affiliate program.

But this is not the focus of the FTC’s new rules; they’re targeting specific endorsements of products that are paid for by companies. I don’t do that, and I probably never will; but if I do, I will clearly disclose any relationship with the product’s maker.

That’s enough of the full disclosure stuff. Now I must brew some coffee, using my Krups KM7000 Grind-and-Brew 10-Cup Coffeemaker, which I bought and paid for myself, and absolutely love.

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1 Summer Seale  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:41:21am

I love Krups coffee makers. =)

2 Summer Seale  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:42:40am

Oh and good morning to you! =)

It's evening here.

3 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:42:42am

GIT YOU SOME GRAFT CHARLES!

4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:43:15am

I'm a Maxwell House and Mr. Coffee kind of guy.

5 vxbush  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:43:52am

I actually think these rules are a really good thing, as such things should be disclosed to prevent people from getting the wrong idea about the blogger's relationship with the manufacturer.

6 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:44:40am

re: #4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm a Maxwell House and Mr. Coffee kind of guy.

Krups are the best. I have one.

7 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:44:56am

Thank you for that prompt report on how the rule would effect you, Charles. Question: What do you think of the rule?

8 vxbush  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:45:19am

re: #6 Walter L. Newton

Krups are the best. I have one.

I can't stand coffee. I have no coffee and no coffee maker in my house. Strange, I am.

9 bosforus  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:45:29am

Neat looking machine. My 44 oz Dr. Pepper is doing just fine for me.

10 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:45:47am

re: #6 Walter L. Newton

Krups are the best. I have one.

Been wondering what to buy the spousal unit for Christmas... Can you make everyday joe out of those fancy machines?

11 JamesW  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:46:46am

Ever heard of the phrase, 'Thin end of the wedge,' Charles? Maybe 'Slippery slope' or something about a camel getting its nose in the tent... If this goes through, how much longer before it becomes 'Endorsing politicial candidates?' My guess, sometime next year.

12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:47:14am

re: #9 bosforus

Get them to back up a Dr. Pepper tanker and just jam a nozzle down your throat!

13 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:47:46am

re: #11 JamesW

Ever heard of the phrase, 'Thin end of the wedge,' Charles? Maybe 'Slippery slope' or something about a camel getting its nose in the tent... If this goes through, how much longer before it becomes 'Endorsing politicial candidates?' My guess, sometime next year.

Well, if some blogger is being paid to endorse a political candidate, I really don't see what's wrong with disclosing that.

14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:48:03am

re: #8 vxbush

I can't stand coffee. I have no coffee and no coffee maker in my house. Strange, I am.

NTTAWWT

15 manny  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:48:45am

Just double-check the rules to see if they apply to the Amazon affiliate program itself -- if the regs are inartfully worded it may turn out that you have to disclose that relationship every time you link to them. Hate to see you (or others) tripped up by regulations which have a quite different intent.

16 vxbush  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:48:48am

re: #14 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

NTTAWWT

Heh. Not according to some of my fellow coworkers...

17 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:49:11am

re: #10 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Been wondering what to buy the spousal unit for Christmas... Can you make everyday joe out of those fancy machines?

On mine you can. Mine is a plain coffee machine... like this... but only one carafe.

I don't think they make the single carafe model anymore.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

18 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:49:25am

re: #4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm a Maxwell House and Mr. Coffee kind of guy.

I use a french press and handheld milk frother to make pseudo-lattes.

19 bosforus  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:49:28am

re: #12 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Get them to back up a Dr. Pepper tanker and just jam a nozzle down your throat!

Not a bad idea...

20 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:49:55am

re: #15 manny

Just double-check the rules to see if they apply to the Amazon affiliate program itself -- if the regs are inartfully worded it may turn out that you have to disclose that relationship every time you link to them. Hate to see you (or others) tripped up by regulations which have a quite different intent.

Of course, Charles gets money from that program whether someone buys what he recommends or a competing product at the same price.

21 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:49:57am

re: #7 Dark_Falcon

Thank you for that prompt report on how the rule would effect you, Charles. Question: What do you think of the rule?

I don't have a problem with it. I do think people have the right to know if a product endorsement is the result of an honest uncolored opinion, or if it's being paid for.

22 vxbush  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:50:45am

re: #21 Charles

I don't have a problem with it. I do think people have the right to know if a product endorsement is the result of an honest uncolored opinion, or if it's being paid for.

People are very easily swayed on computer purchases by "experts" and bloggers and writers. If said people are being paid for their endorsements, folks should know.

23 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:50:49am

re: #10 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Been wondering what to buy the spousal unit for Christmas... Can you make everyday joe out of those fancy machines?

And what I like about the carafe model... there is no heating or cooking of the coffee on a pad. The coffee goes into the carafe HOT and it stays that way for hours... and not cooking over and over.

24 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:53:07am

re: #21 Charles

I don't have a problem with it. I do think people have the right to know if a product endorsement is the result of an honest uncolored opinion, or if it's being paid for.

Fair enough. That's an honest answer and one that I agree with.

25 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:53:35am

OT...

I guess we were overreacting to the currency change topic yesterday...

"The United Nations called on Tuesday for a new global reserve currency to end dollar supremacy which has allowed the United States the "privilege" of building a huge trade deficit."

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Right.

26 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:53:45am

The full text of the regs are here, starting at page 55. Specifically, this is the key provision that has been amended to expand the treatment to bloggers:

When there exists a connection between the endorser and the seller of the advertised product that might materially affect the weight or credibility of the endorsement (i.e., the connection is not reasonably expected by the audience), such connection must be fully disclosed.

Seems innocuous enough, and a series of examples are provided, including:

Example 7: A college student who has earned a reputation as a video game expert maintains a personal weblog or “blog” where he posts entries about his gaming experiences. Readers of his blog frequently seek his opinions about video game hardware and software. As it has done in the past, the manufacturer of a newly released video game system sends the student a free copy of the system and asks him to write about it on his blog. He tests the new gaming system and writes a favorable review.

Because his review is disseminated via a form of consumer-generated media in which his relationship to the advertiser is not inherently obvious, readers are unlikely to know that he has received the video game system free of charge in exchange for his review of the product, and given the value of the video game system, this fact likely would materially affect the credibility they attach to his endorsement. Accordingly, the blogger should
clearly and conspicuously disclose that he received the gaming system free of charge.

The manufacturer should advise him at the time it provides the gaming system that this connection should be disclosed, and it should have procedures in place to try to monitor his postings for compliance.

This is a rule ostensibly designed to improve consumer protection - preventing companies from setting up spoof blogs to hawk products, and to identify unscrupulous bloggers who might push items without revealing their connections to the products they tout.

However, I think Jeff Jarvis is on to something. What are the limits, particularly when one uses blogads, adsense, or other revenue generating materials on the site - what kind of disclosure is necessary. I do book reviews on my site, but does that mean I have to disclose that I've obtained the book from the publisher or that I merely took the book out of the library to review or suggest to my readers?

And what about the camera equipment I tout when I publish my photos? I have to add disclaimers to that to say that I never received any compensation from the camera makers?

27 SasyMomaCat  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:53:45am

re: #21 Charles

Agreed. Sunshine is the best disinfectant. Lots of sites out there pretend to be impartial review sites while all they are doing is promoting whatever product they either get for free or are paid to promote. Not cool.

28 bosforus  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:54:33am

So does that mean that if a lizard had a product that they asked/paid you to advertise would you need to disclose that the product is from a lizard?

29 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:57:41am

re: #24 Dark_Falcon

Fair enough. That's an honest answer and one that I agree with.

How about a web site that will endorse anything you get paid for..
Dude! Samsung 73" HD Tv's Rock.. I'm enjoying it right now...
And see that stack of Gold? Cash4Gold is awesome! Send in your gold now!
Haven't done the review on coffee makers yet.. There are 63 of them in boxes in the Garage...
*wink*

30 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:57:54am

re: #26 lawhawk

The full text of the regs are here, starting at page 55. Specifically, this is the key provision that has been amended to expand the treatment to bloggers:

This is a rule ostensibly designed to improve consumer protection - preventing companies from setting up spoof blogs to hawk products, and to identify unscrupulous bloggers who might push items without revealing their connections to the products they tout.

However, I think Jeff Jarvis is on to something. What are the limits, particularly when one uses blogads, adsense, or other revenue generating materials on the site - what kind of disclosure is necessary. I do book reviews on my site, but does that mean I have to disclose that I've obtained the book from the publisher or that I merely took the book out of the library to review or suggest to my readers?

And what about the camera equipment I tout when I publish my photos? I have to add disclaimers to that to say that I never received any compensation from the camera makers?

I think you could argue that ads such as those provided by Adsense are very clearly advertisements and not product endorsements. And ads by their very nature are paid for -- so this really doesn't come under the the new rules at all.

The way they're written, the rules say that you need to disclose any relationship with the maker of a product when you review it. If you don't have a relationship, it doesn't say you need to provide a disclaimer to that effect.

31 MikeySDCA  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:58:07am

OT: Am I the only one who is getting tired of the pink rubbish at the top of the LGF homepage?

32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:58:10am

re: #18 Mad Al-Jaffee

I use a french press and handheld milk frother to make pseudo-lattes.

Java snobs...

33 Baier  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:58:31am

I know this first hand, many companies are paying bloggers, especially in tech, to endorse products without having to disclose the relationship. Many companies see this as part of brand awareness programs. I personally have ethical problems with that. I would as a marketer, however, have no problem offering free product for review and let the chips fall where the may. It has been proven that even negative reviews can have a positive affect on product awareness and sales.

34 cenotaphium  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:58:39am

re: #11 JamesW

Ever heard of the phrase, 'Thin end of the wedge,' Charles? Maybe 'Slippery slope' or something about a camel getting its nose in the tent... If this goes through, how much longer before it becomes 'Endorsing politicial candidates?' My guess, sometime next year.

Living in Sweden, I am familiar with governmental interference. However, we also have a very strong consumer rights program. For instance, meat sold in shops is required to state from where the meat comes, so that the consumer can make an informed choice if he'd like to buy only "homegrown" meat for instance.
Similarly, I think it benefits consumer choice to have laws requiring advocates of products to disclose any personal gain they've got from individual companies. As I read a lot of tech blogs, the deals done in the review world sometimes become very apparent.
However, I do not think this will work very well when applied to blogs. Apart from the major blogs, it will most likely be very hard to enforce. Your legal system is very different from the one we have also, and I'm a bit worried this opens up for litigation against blogs (any legal mind that cares to correct me is welcome)?

As for the "slippery slope", political affiliations are still personal around here.

35 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:59:36am

re: #18 Mad Al-Jaffee

I use a french press and handheld milk frother to make pseudo-lattes.

I'm a recent french press convert myself. Big fan.

36 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 8:59:58am

re: #34 cenotaphium

So in Sweden, if you have a side of beef, they have to tell you it comes from a cow? Weird.
//

37 Millicent Islam  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:00:13am

re: #21 Charles

I don't have a problem with it. I do think people have the right to know if a product endorsement is the result of an honest uncolored opinion, or if it's being paid for.

Unfortunately the rules are so broad at the moment (from what I've heard) that merely receiving a free product is something that needs to be disclosed, like if someone sends a blogger a copy of their book for free, and the blogger decides to review it.

And they're vague too. It's unclear how they'll be enforced or against whom.

Although I fully agree with the basic principle, and it won't affect LGF or anyone with an affiliateship, etc.

38 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:00:17am

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Java snobs...


Philistine!

39 Baier  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:00:38am

re: #35 rwdflynavy

I'm a recent french press convert myself. Big fan.

I don't have a French Press, I have a Freedom Press. I like more liberty in my coffee.

40 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:00:42am

re: #35 rwdflynavy

I'm a recent french press convert myself. Big fan.

I have one in my office. Saves money when you drink a lot of coffee

41 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:01:15am

re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Java snobs...

What? The Kona roast with french cream smells so good..
/

42 cenotaphium  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:02:32am

re: #36 Walter L. Newton

So in Sweden, if you have a side of beef, they have to tell you it comes from a cow? Weird.
//

At least milk comes in tetrapak, not in bags.

/obscure?

43 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:03:19am

re: #31 MikeySDCA

OT: Am I the only one who is getting tired of the pink rubbish at the top of the LGF homepage?

What color "rubbish" do you prefer?

44 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:03:38am

re: #31 MikeySDCA

The Lord of the Blog likes it that way.

45 SteveC  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:03:49am

Full disclosure - I'm using my Medtronic pacemaker as I post today!

//

46 stormy  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:04:54am

More useless regulation. The article states that they really have no way of enforcing it (at least they're not hiring more govt workers). Plus, at the end of the day, what difference does it make if you disclose the information?

I don't care if Amazon gives Charles products or not. He could disclose that Amazon gave him all sorts of things, but I don't believe it would influence his reviews. Frankly, I find a source I trust for reviews based on my own criteria, then go to that source regardless of how they came to have the product. For example, I like arstechnica reviews. I could care less what they disclose - they are a trustworthy source.

The web in general has done a great job of sniffing out puppets that endorse people and products. Those people become known as untrustworthy sources. It doesn't require a government mandate in my opinion.

Do people really need to be warned that "results not typical" means that they're really really not typical? How stupid have people become? ARGGHGGHGHGHHHGH!!!

47 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:04:54am

re: #31 MikeySDCA

OT: Am I the only one who is getting tired of the pink rubbish at the top of the LGF homepage?

It's breast cancer awareness month...BTW.. I really like the NFL promoting it this month..Good for them

48 Baier  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:05:34am

Best coffee machine? The Clover. $11,000 per machine, and it only makes one cup at a time. Starbucks bought the company and took the product off the market, but some coffee houses procured some beforehand. There is a coffee shop near my office that has two machines, $400 for an 8oz coffee, but it is very good. The machine is just a prefect French Press.

49 blizard  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:05:40am

re: #31 MikeySDCA

OT: Am I the only one who is getting tired of the pink rubbish at the top of the LGF homepage?


Maybe

//

Still using my Mr. Coffee from college. Works like a charm. Pumpkin spice coffee at the moment.

50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:06:04am

re: #47 HoosierHoops

It's breast cancer awareness month...BTW.. I really like the NFL promoting it this month..Good for them

SAVE THE TATAS!

51 Baier  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:06:27am

re: #48 Baier

Best coffee machine? The Clover. $11,000 per machine, and it only makes one cup at a time. Starbucks bought the company and took the product off the market, but some coffee houses procured some beforehand. There is a coffee shop near my office that has two machines, $400 for an 8oz coffee, but it is very good. The machine is just a prefect French Press.

$4.00 not $400...pimf

52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:07:06am

re: #48 Baier

Four-hundred dollar cups of coffee are really good.

53 blizard  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:07:25am

re: #39 Baier

I don't have a French Press, I have a Freedom Press. I like more liberty in my coffee.


...and I just liberated some coffee on my screen, thanks for that!

54 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:07:27am

re: #42 cenotaphium

At least milk comes in tetrapak, not in bags.

/obscure?

When I travel, I notice all the small differences in things, and product packaging is very interesting.

In France, chewing gum was simply wrapped in an outer wrapper, you didn't have underwear and a overcoat on each stick.

I have many more examples, but you probably understand what I am saying.

Packaging in general was less bulky, I imagine that has something to do with waste and recycling.

55 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:07:46am

re: #48 Baier

4 dollars a cup..Not 400...

56 cenotaphium  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:08:11am

re: #46 stormy

Do people really need to be warned that "results not typical" means that they're really really not typical? How stupid have people become?

I get a good chuckle out of every plastic bag imprinted with "this plastic bag is not a toy" on it. I mean, if you're stupid enough to think it is, do they really expect you to be able to read?

57 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:08:26am

Coffee isn't good unless you can eat it with a fork, except for maybe coffee ice cream...

Give me strong coffee or give me... stronger coffee!

58 blizard  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:08:50am

Oooh, Tetrapak. *Love* that packaging.

59 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:08:56am

re: #46 stormy

[snip]

I don't care if Amazon gives Charles products or not. He could disclose that Amazon gave him all sorts of things, but I don't believe it would influence his reviews.

[snip]

But your statement is certainly not the norm for everyone, is it?

60 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:09:17am

re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Four-hundred dollar cups of coffee are really good.

I like Jamaican me crazy from the Daily Grind in the 'Noke.

Go get some!

61 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:09:32am

re: #50 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

SAVE THE TATAS!

Save a bunch of cars?

62 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:10:06am

re: #57 MrSilverDragon

Coffee isn't good unless you can eat it with a fork, except for maybe coffee ice cream...

Give me strong coffee or give me... stronger coffee!

Italian Roast will rock your world

63 I AM BREITBART!  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:10:34am

I could seriously use a cup of that Krups made coffee right now... and a Dunkin' Donut. Too bad they aren't prevalent here in California.

64 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:10:35am

They should invent a roomba that can also make coffee and download e-books.

65 Baier  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:11:04am

re: #64 Mad Al-Jaffee

They should invent a roomba that can also make coffee and download e-books.

Just superglue them together.

66 thinker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:11:05am

I like your wit, Charles. Also, by the way, thanks for pointing out the corrective article on Ahmadinejad's origins.

67 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:12:24am

re: #64 Mad Al-Jaffee

They should invent a roomba that can also make coffee and download e-books.

And play MP3's

68 SteveC  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:12:43am

re: #56 cenotaphium

I get a good chuckle out of every plastic bag imprinted with "this plastic bag is not a toy" on it. I mean, if you're stupid enough to think it is, do they really expect you to be able to read?

On a Superman suit my niece wore last Halloween:

WARNING: Suit does not enable wearer to fly

69 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:12:47am

Gotta go, BBL.

70 webevintage  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:13:11am

Hmmm, I need to get in on this free stuff if you review it.
Maybe I should review chocolate or mystery novels or cool kitchen gadgets or clothes for old fat ladies.
I enjoy all those things and would love to have free stuff sent to me.
I really need a "twin set" (that's a cardigan and shell sweater set) so if any retailer feels the need to have cardigans reviewed, please contact me.

71 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:13:47am

re: #68 SteveC

On a Superman suit my niece wore last Halloween:

WARNING: Suit does not enable wearer to fly

Reminds me of the old SNL sketches where Dan Akroyd would play the evil toy company spokesman. "Watch our kid, broken glass!"

72 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:15:23am

re: #26 lawhawk

The full text of the regs are here, starting at page 55. Specifically, this is the key provision that has been amended to expand the treatment to bloggers:

This is a rule ostensibly designed to improve consumer protection - preventing companies from setting up spoof blogs to hawk products, and to identify unscrupulous bloggers who might push items without revealing their connections to the products they tout.

However, I think Jeff Jarvis is on to something. What are the limits, particularly when one uses blogads, adsense, or other revenue generating materials on the site - what kind of disclosure is necessary. I do book reviews on my site, but does that mean I have to disclose that I've obtained the book from the publisher or that I merely took the book out of the library to review or suggest to my readers?

And what about the camera equipment I tout when I publish my photos? I have to add disclaimers to that to say that I never received any compensation from the camera makers?

I'd say if the publishers gave you the book, you should disclose that.
As for photographs, again, unless they gave you photographic equipment, you should be safe.
However, you could add a statement that "Equipment is described for informational purposes, and is not an endorsement or review of such equipment."

Blogads and other ads where the blogger does not know exactly what ads will show up are different

73 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:16:23am

US funds dry up for Iran rights watchdog

WASHINGTON - For the past five years, researchers in a modest office overlooking the New Haven green have carefully documented cases of assassination and torture of democracy activists in Iran. With more than $3 million in grants from the US State Department, they have pored over thousands of documents and Persian-language press reports and interviewed scores of witnesses and survivors to build dossiers on those they say are Iran’s most infamous human-rights abusers.

But just as the Iran Human Rights Documentation Center was ramping up to investigate abuses of protesters after this summer’s disputed presidential election, the group received word that - for the first time since it was formed - its federal funding request had been denied.

74 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:16:36am

re: #70 webevintage

Hmmm, I need to get in on this free stuff if you review it.
Maybe I should review chocolate or mystery novels or cool kitchen gadgets or clothes for old fat ladies.
I enjoy all those things and would love to have free stuff sent to me.
I really need a "twin set" (that's a cardigan and shell sweater set) so if any retailer feels the need to have cardigans reviewed, please contact me.

I swear to Gawd I'll review that the BMW is the greatest car in all history...
My Price? A yellow convertible BMW..and a new motorcycle...
/Call me

75 KernelPanic  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:18:37am

Greetings from Germany where I have to get back to the conference in a few minutes. Just wanted to reiterate how good the coffee from a Clover machine actually is. That said, I'm turning into more of an espresso nerd - now have two machines and two different griding setups. After we get bored with espresso the next step is to turn into a pour-over coffee snob via the Hario single and double-cup Syphon systems. Coffee === Good.

76 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:20:57am

re: #56 cenotaphium

I get a good chuckle out of every plastic bag imprinted with "this plastic bag is not a toy" on it. I mean, if you're stupid enough to think it is, do they really expect you to be able to read?

How about the "Do not eat" printed on the desiccant packages in products? Like I expect to eat something packed with a DVD player or something.

77 SteveC  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:21:42am

OT -

Here's a Deseret News article about my friend, Paul Cardall. Lizards have kept him in their thoughts several times, thought you might like to know how he's doing.

Paul Cardall recovering from heart transplant

78 The Curmudgeon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:22:00am

Hey, FTC: get yourself a Veg-O-Matic. It slices. It dices!

79 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:22:31am

re: #71 Mad Al-Jaffee

Reminds me of the old SNL sketches where Dan Akroyd would play the evil toy company spokesman. "Watch our kid, broken glass!"

Mr. Mainway, of Mainway toys.
"Bag o' broken glass"
"Bag o' nails"
etc.

80 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:23:00am

re: #62 HoosierHoops

Italian Roast will rock your world

Whenever I get pho, I usually get the Vietnamese coffee w/ condensed milk. Now that's a treat.

81 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:23:16am

re: #78 The Curmudgeon

Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball...

82 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:23:45am

re: #76 Kosh's Shadow

How about the "Do not eat" printed on the desiccant packages in products? Like I expect to eat something packed with a DVD player or something.

My buddy has a snow blower..It has a warning label on it warning you not to use it on Roofs...I wish there was a Youtube video of the guy that caused the company to label that warning...It would be hilarious...

83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:24:50am

It's Happy! It's Fun! It's Happy Fun Ball!
Yes, Happy Fun Ball, the toy sensation that's sweeping the nation. Only $14.95 at participating stores!

Get one Today!

Warning: Pregnant women, the elderly and children under 10 should avoid prolonged exposure to Happy Fun Ball.

Caution: Happy Fun Ball may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds.

Happy Fun Ball contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at.

Do not use Happy Fun Ball on concrete.

Discontinue use of Happy Fun Ball if any of the following occurs:
Itching
Vertigo
Dizziness
Tingling in extremities
Loss of balance or coordination
Slurred speech
Temporary Blindness
Profuse sweating
Heart Palpitations
If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get away immediately. Seek shelter and cover head.

Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain types of skin.

When not in use, Happy Fun Ball should be returned to its special container and kept under refrigeration...

Failure to do so relieves the makers of Happy Fun Ball, Wacky Products Incorporated, and its parent company Global Chemical Unlimited, of any and all liability.

Ingredients of Happy Fun Ball include an unknown glowing substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space.

Happy Fun Ball has been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and is also being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq.

Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball.

Happy Fun Ball comes with a lifetime guarantee.

Happy Fun Ball: ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!

84 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:26:39am

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Do you have a link to someone who sells this. I can't find a single vendor, and I have a whole lot of people I know who would probably deserve this toy this upcoming Christmas...

85 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:26:44am

OT : Obama Admin looks at new spending / extending homebuyer's tax credit to stem job cuts.

Read the article. It looks like the Obama Admin knows that the recovery is not and will not be robust and is looking for a way to support it without drawing the attention that the stimulus bill did.

While that is laudable in intent, what is proposed will likely be ineffective.

Extending a first time homebuyer's tax credit is of no use to young workers who are seeing the highest unemployment for their demographic in 40 years. Nor will it help stem job losses in construction. Construction has been devastated and there are few jobs left to cut. More transportation spending mey seem stimulative but these infrastructure projects spend a great deal of time in the planning pipeline.

The Obama admin seems to be at an ideological crossroads. Uncertainty is what is making American businesses stingy. They don't know what cost structure they will have to adopt under a new health insurance and cap and trade regulatory scheme so bold new growth initiatives are being shelved until they understand what which initiatives will be profitable and which won't. With what has happened in the last 2 years "risk management" has gained new respect, and risk taking requires knowing likelihoods of outcomes.

Furthermore, tried and true recovery incentives for industry are being avoided. Tax incentives like accelerated depreciation and R&D tax credits are no-brainers that produce an immediate outcome with no government cash outlays. These are incentives that both Democrats and Republicans have used in the past. But Progressives hate them because they supposedly benefit "corporatists".

News flash for progressives - "corporatists" employ people. Employed people pay taxes. Unemployed people consume taxes. Do the math.

86 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:27:14am

re: #76 Kosh's Shadow

How about the "Do not eat" printed on the desiccant packages in products? Like I expect to eat something packed with a DVD player or something.

How about the frozen pizza packages that say "remove pizza from box and packaging before cooking."

87 SteveC  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:27:48am

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Warning: Pregnant women, the elderly and children under 10 should avoid prolonged exposure to Happy Fun Ball.

"Pregnant women shouldn't handle Flomax due the the risk of a certain birth defect..."

... but you, sir, take one three times a day with a glass of water!

88 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:27:58am

re: #82 HoosierHoops

re: #76 Kosh's Shadow

These warning labels stem back to our loss of the concept of personal responsibility. Once the 1st lawyer found out he could sue a large company for beaucoup bucks because his client was a dumbass, all bets were off.

HOOSIER,,, in todays environment, if that warning label was NOT on the snowblower and your buddy crashed through his roof while removing the snow from it, it would be the manufacturer of the machines fault, not your buddys!

89 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:28:26am

re: #83 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Of course... Imagine Phil Hartman reading that...

90 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:29:28am

re: #86 Mad Al-Jaffee

How about the frozen pizza packages that say "remove pizza from box and packaging before cooking."


Don't forget the "plastic wrap".

Wash, rinse, repeat.

91 simoom  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:29:36am
Cleland said the FTC won't be hiring new personnel to monitor blogs, creating a "game of whack-a-mole" for regulators, given the numbers involved. As a result, the FTC said it is more likely to go after advertisers rather than bloggers to ensure ad companies are giving product reviewers proper instructions about disclosure compliance.

This part seems reasonable, where enforcement focuses on the companies attempting to influence the reviewing blogs, requiring them to also send along disclosure instructions with their "gifts". Beyond that, enforcement at the blogger level seems like a non-starter for a number of reasons (enforcement resources, distributed nature of the internet, frivolous accusations, etc).

I also wonder how this might apply to the professional forum posters some companies hirer to first build up credibility in a community with the sole purpose to then, without disclosure, shill their employer's products.

92 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:29:49am

re: #88 sattv4u2

re: #76 Kosh's Shadow

These warning labels stem back to our loss of the concept of personal responsibility. Once the 1st lawyer found out he could sue a large company for beaucoup bucks because his client was a dumbass, all bets were off.

HOOSIER,,, in todays environment, if that warning label was NOT on the snowblower and your buddy crashed through his roof while removing the snow from it, it would be the manufacturer of the machines fault, not your buddys!

Anybody that drags a snowblower on the roof deserves a top 10 Darwin Nomination...It's not going to end well...

93 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:30:37am

re: #71 Mad Al-Jaffee

Reminds me of the old SNL sketches where Dan Akroyd would play the evil toy company spokesman. "Watch our kid, broken glass!"

Johnny Human Torch
Invisible Pedestrian

94 SteveC  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:30:55am

Obama is on the tube, he just said "I use your product every day to make some difficult decisions."

I glanced at the TV to see if he was speaking at a Magic 8 Ball factory!

95 Mardukhai  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:31:27am

I write on coffee matters, and roast my own coffee, but unless I am in the mood for a thick espresso, I microwave it in a small glass pitcher, then pour it through an ultra-fine mesh strainer. The whole process takes about two minutes, from measuring the ground beans to first sip.

I prefer it to a French press because the result is much hotter, and it's not French.

96 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:31:30am

re: #92 HoosierHoops

Anybody that drags a snowblower on the roof deserves a top 10 Darwin Nomination...It's not going to end well...

There was a comedian I saw on TV once. He describes being at a bar and seeing someone with no arm.
"Vietnam. Land mine"
then he sees someone else with no arm
"Quart of Jack Daniels and a snowblower"

97 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:31:49am

re: #93 Guanxi88

Johnny Human Torch
Invisible Pedestrian

Johnny Space Commander
Bag O' Sulphuric Acid

98 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:31:51am

re: #92 HoosierHoops

Anybody that drags a snowblower on the roof deserves a top 10 Darwin Nomination...It's not going to end well...

Yet, without the warning label ,,, $$$

99 SteveC  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:32:07am

re: #92 HoosierHoops

Anybody that drags a snowblower on the roof deserves a top 10 Darwin Nomination...It's not going to end well...

Anybody who can drag a snowblower onto the roof can do whatever the hell he wants, I'm not man enough to stop him!

100 stormy  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:32:22am

re: #31 MikeySDCA

OT: Am I the only one who is getting tired of the pink rubbish at the top of the LGF homepage?

I'm with you - it doesn't appeal to me at all.

If you use firefox, install the Stylish add-on. Then you can add a rule for LGF:

{.topstories { display: none } }

101 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:32:38am

Oh, for Pete's sake. Now George Will has a column in which he's counting the words in Obama's Copenhagen speeches.

Has the entire conservative movement lost its freaking (alleged) mind?

102 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:32:41am

re: #97 Mad Al-Jaffee

Johnny Space Commander
Bag O' Sulphuric Acid

I forgot the Spacecommander costume - a plastic bag and a rubber band. Great stuff.

103 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:32:50am

re: #95 Mardukhai

I prefer it to a French press because the result is much hotter, and it's not French.

My French press is from IKEA, so it might be a Swedish press.

104 Mardukhai  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:33:22am

"Packaging is made of paper and metal foil. Do not eat."

105 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:33:30am

Let me guess; The right wing blogosphere is in a panic over Obama taking control of the blogs to silence dissent.

106 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:33:51am

re: #100 stormy

Well, excuse me for trying to promote LGF stories I think are important.

107 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:34:33am

I use one of these...

Bodum Brazil Glass 3-Cup Coffee Press


Works for tea as well.

108 SteveC  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:34:38am

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Let me guess; The right wing blogosphere is in a panic over Obama taking control of the blogs to silence dissent.

*cue spooky music*

109 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:34:39am

Then there's always "serving suggestion" written on the package/can your food comes in. Someone probably saw a picture of a can of soup with a garnish or something and sued because it wasn't included.

110 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:34:43am

re: #105 Killgore Trout

Let me guess; The right wing blogosphere is in a panic over Obama taking control of the blogs to silence dissent.

I don't know, probably. I rarely even look at the right wing blogs any more -- they've all gone nuts.

111 Mardukhai  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:35:10am

re: #103 Mad Al-Jaffee

Worse -- it was purchased at a store founded by a nazi (true) and was probably featured in Aftonbladet (ick).

112 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:35:57am

re: #92 HoosierHoops

Anybody that drags a snowblower on the roof deserves a top 10 Darwin Nomination...It's not going to end well...

It depends on when and where. I know of a lot of people in the UP who used to take a snowblower onto flat roofs to remove the snow (usually piled about a foot high or more).

113 SixDegrees  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:36:21am

re: #21 Charles

I don't have a problem with it. I do think people have the right to know if a product endorsement is the result of an honest uncolored opinion, or if it's being paid for.

Totally agree. I went looking for a kitchen scale a while back, found one that had a glowing review on a blog, bought it based on that, and - Piece.Of.Shit. A revisit revealed a whole bunch of glowing reviews for kitchen products, all from the same manufacturer, that hadn't been present when I first visited. Every one was written as a first-hand account of actual use, although in the case of the scale it was obvious once it arrived that the description had no basis in reality.

Just tell me if you're shilling. It isn't hard, and if you're selling something I want I may not even care. But disclosure in cases like this ought to be mandatory, to reduce the chance of getting burned.

114 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:36:23am

re: #101 Charles

"Play it backwards, it screws up your needle!"
-George Carlin

Seriously? Counting words... How can someone count the words in an Obama speech.

He's better than "Stupifying Jones" from Lil' Abner!

115 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:36:40am

re: #56 cenotaphium

I get a good chuckle out of every plastic bag imprinted with "this plastic bag is not a toy" on it. I mean, if you're stupid enough to think it is, do they really expect you to be able to read?

They actually don't expect anything of you.
They only expect to have their butt covered in the event they are sued.

116 Mardukhai  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:36:46am

I rarely read "wingers" of either sort -- I prefer the head of the bird.

117 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:37:08am

re: #101 Charles

Oh, for Pete's sake. Now George Will has a column in which he's counting the words in Obama's Copenhagen speeches.

Has the entire conservative movement lost its freaking (alleged) mind?

Do all him ummms and ahhhs count double?

118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:37:15am

re: #101 Charles
Does "Uh" count as a word?

119 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:37:25am

Attention. Farkalanche imminent. ETA: 55 minutes.

[Link: www.fark.com...]

120 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:37:34am

re: #116 Mardukhai

I rarely read "wingers" of either sort -- I prefer the head of the bird.

I'm a breast man myself!


in bed//

121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:37:41am

re: #117 rwdflynavydamn

122 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:37:58am

re: #118 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Does "Uh" count as a word?


Ha! Beat you!

123 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:38:02am

OT, but Abbas is concerned that Israel is "Judaising Jerusalem"

Speaking on Yemenite Television this week, Palestinian Authority chairman Mahmoud Abbas said that while Israel and “world Zionism” act every day to “Judaize” the city, Arab efforts to make the city Arab are “paltry.” Long known by his nom de guerre Abu Mazen, Abbas provided financing for the terrorist attack that killed 11 Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympic Games in Munich, Germany.


Listen, dipshit terrorist, Jerusalem was Jewish long before Islam existed.

124 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:38:15am

re: #122 rwdflynavy

Ha! Beat you!

in bed

125 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:38:41am

re: #101 Charles

Forget counting the words; the content wasn't exactly the kind of speech that would get the job done (and it didn't). Obama was apparently in a no-win situation - go to Copenhagen to support an inadequate bid from Chicago and fail, or not go and watch Chicago lose the bid. Either way he loses, and that he was in such a position in the first place is a warning sign as to how the WH operates and didn't properly judge how to expend political capital on the matter. That's far more worrisome than how many "I's" he had in there.

126 Mardukhai  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:38:42am

re: #117 rwdflynavy

Umms and Ahhs were the trademark of Bill Buckley, a friend and a generous and decent soul.

127 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:38:54am

re: #123 Kosh's Shadow

OT, but Abbas is concerned that Israel is "Judaising Jerusalem"


Listen, dipshit terrorist, Jerusalem was Jewish long before Islam existed.

And muslim whackos claim it as muslim from before islam existed.

128 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:39:26am

re: #116 Mardukhai

I rarely read "wingers" of either sort -- I prefer the head of the bird.

Now I have the Bobby Rush song "Chicken Heads" as an earworm.

129 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:40:00am

re: #125 lawhawk

Forget counting the words; the content wasn't exactly the kind of speech that would get the job done (and it didn't). Obama was apparently in a no-win situation - go to Copenhagen to support an inadequate bid from Chicago and fail, or not go and watch Chicago lose the bid. Either way he loses, and that he was in such a position in the first place is a warning sign as to how the WH operates and didn't properly judge how to expend political capital on the matter. That's far more worrisome than how many "I's" he had in there.

I just wanna know who was the idiot (or enemy) who told him he should go. If it wasn't a done deal, he only risked looking ineffectual.

130 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:40:11am

re: #126 Mardukhai

Umms and Ahhs were the trademark of Bill Buckley, a friend and a generous and decent soul.

God bless him, but he would've been skewered at any "Toastmasters" Club.

131 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:40:45am

re: #126 Mardukhai

Umms and Ahhs were the trademark of Bill Buckley, a friend and a generous and decent soul.

Alton Brown too.

132 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:40:55am

re: #128 Mad Al-Jaffee

Now I have the Bobby Rush song "Chicken Heads" as an earworm.

Replace it with this one, Fish Heads

133 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:41:06am

re: #123 Kosh's Shadow

Don't get me started
on that crapulence. And Abbas and the PA are busy looking into whether they can get the various human rights groups to pursue war crimes charges against Israel over Operation Cast Lead despite the fact that but for Palestinian terrorism, Israel would not have engaged in a military operation to deter an ongoing existential threat to Israelis living within missile range.

134 debutaunt  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:41:12am

re: #55 HoosierHoops

4 dollars a cup..Not 400...

Damn! I thought inflation had hit where it hurt!

135 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:41:39am

I read somewhere that when Rush Limbaugh weaves favorable mention of a product into one of his monologues, he charges more than he does for an out-and-out plug.

136 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:41:48am

re: #128 Mad Al-Jaffee

Now I have the Bobby Rush song "Chicken Heads" as an earworm.

This help?

137 SteveC  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:41:54am

re: #129 Guanxi88

I just wanna know who was the idiot (or enemy) who told him he should go. If it wasn't a done deal, he only risked looking ineffectual.

I think it was the guy who sits behind the big desk in the Oval Office. Obama tends to listen to him a lot.

138 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:42:11am

re: #132 Kosh's Shadow

Replace it with this one, Fish Heads

[Video]

"Rolly polly fish heads are never seen drinking cappuccino in Italian restaurants with Oriental women."

139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:42:28am

re: #132 Kosh's Shadow

DAMN!

140 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:42:29am

re: #129 Guanxi88

It's probably one of several people - Rahm Emanuel, Richard Daley, or someone connected with the two and the Chicago 2016 committee who thought that the bid was a done deal (and it wasn't).

141 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:42:45am

re: #138 Guanxi88

"Rolly polly fish heads are never seen drinking cappuccino in Italian restaurants with Oriental women."

yeah...

142 stormy  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:43:01am

re: #135 The Sanity Inspector

I read somewhere that when Rush Limbaugh weaves favorable mention of a product into one of his monologues, he charges more than he does for an out-and-out plug.

Could be, but I've often heard him mention that he pays for all the products he endorses so that he isn't beholden to any advertiser.

143 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:43:08am

re: #133 lawhawk


Don't get me started
on that crapulence. And Abbas and the PA are busy looking into whether they can get the various human rights groups to pursue war crimes charges against Israel over Operation Cast Lead despite the fact that but for Palestinian terrorism, Israel would not have engaged in a military operation to deter an ongoing existential threat to Israelis living within missile range.

I think the UN should take atrocities in the order they occurred. When they're done with investigating and prosecuting Russian authorities for Chechnya, then they can use no stricter standards on Israel. Until then, they should shut up.

144 debutaunt  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:43:19am

re: #71 Mad Al-Jaffee

Reminds me of the old SNL sketches where Dan Akroyd would play the evil toy company spokesman. "Watch our kid, broken glass!"

Bag o' shards!

145 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:43:48am

re: #132 Kosh's Shadow

Replace it with this one, Fish Heads

[Video]

That's Bill Paxton!

146 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:43:58am

re: #137 SteveC

I think it was the guy who sits behind the big desk in the Oval Office. Obama tends to listen to him a lot.

I take him as good deal brighter than that. I kid about the guy, but I think he was screwed over by an advisor. This thing just wasn't well-managed at all, and there's no way in hell he should have gone without an assurance of victory. Fine, he suggested it, then? Then which advisor was it who failed to wave him off the approach; that SOB needs to get canned.

147 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:44:05am

re: #134 debutaunt

Damn! I thought inflation had hit where it hurt!

Or they sell this "crappy" Indonesian coffee.

148 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:44:45am

re: #136 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This help?

No Tube access at work (or speakers.)

149 drogheda  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:45:06am

Counting words in speeches is for chumps. You have to count the letters and do some specialized frequency analysis in order to determine the proper matrix size. Once you have the proper matrix size you can place the letters into the matrix format and then (and only then) you can proceed to divine the true meaning of the speech.

Like a word seek puzzle only more pseudo-scientifically rigorous.

// I'm serious.
// No really.
// Why are you all looking at me like that?

150 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:45:38am

re: #145 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's Bill Paxton!

The version I heard on Demento was Barnes and Barnes, and the Youtube poster claims it is Barnes and Barnes.
Not that it matters that much.

151 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:46:05am

re: #150 Kosh's Shadow

No! Bill Paxton is in the video!

152 debutaunt  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:47:09am

re: #106 Charles

Well, excuse me for trying to promote LGF stories I think are important.

The Steve Martin impression always cracks me up!

153 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:47:35am

re: #147 Mad Al-Jaffee

Or they sell this "crappy" Indonesian coffee.

How about Monkey Picked Tea?

Given monkeys' hygienic standards, I think I'll pass.

154 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:48:09am
155 SixDegrees  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:48:10am

re: #101 Charles

Oh, for Pete's sake. Now George Will has a column in which he's counting the words in Obama's Copenhagen speeches.

Has the entire conservative movement lost its freaking (alleged) mind?

Maybe they'll release a new version of The Bible Code, performing the same sort of rigorous scientific analysis on Left-wing political speeches as they did on Scripture.

156 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:48:21am

re: #153 Kosh's Shadow

How about Monkey Picked Tea?

Given monkeys' hygienic standards, I think I'll pass.

Monkey-pick is good tea, good tea indeed. Pu erh is one of the most comically-named teas, and it's an excellent beverage.

157 SteveC  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:48:22am

re: #153 Kosh's Shadow

How about Monkey Picked Tea?

Given monkeys' hygienic standards, I think I'll pass.

Monkeys got to earn a living too, man!

158 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:48:26am

re: #153 Kosh's Shadow

How about Monkey Picked Tea?

Given monkeys' hygienic standards, I think I'll pass.

Now with extra feces!!!

159 StillAMarine  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:49:31am

Krups -- ah, yes. My uncle took me to a department store when I was a wee lad, and there was some Krups kitchenware was being demonstrated by a factory rep. My uncle was a tad puzzled by how the equipment worked, and probably looked a little clued out. The factory rep asked him, "Vhat? You are not familiar with Krups?"
To that my uncle replied, "I have visited your factories in Germany many times -- at night, and I did not land."
End of conversation.

160 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:49:34am

Jeff Jarvis over at Buzzmachine isn't loving this new regulation, at all.

161 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:49:47am

re: #158 Mad Al-Jaffee

"Mmmm, you can taste the monkey!"

162 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:50:32am

re: #154 Ben Hur

Most Would Use Force to Stop Iranian Nukes

Who is the Most, and how do we get him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs?

163 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:50:33am

re: #157 SteveC

Monkeys got to earn a living too, man!

Bart Simpson: And every night the monkey butlers will regale us with jungle stories.

Nelson: How many monkey butlers will there be?

Bart Simpson: One at first, but he'll train others.

164 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:50:44am

Morning all. Well, it seems Pelosi and Reid are at it again:

Congressional leaders fight against posting bills online

A similar effort is under way in Congress. Reps. Brian Baird, D-Wash., and Greg Walden, R-Ore., are circulating a petition among House lawmakers that would force a vote on the 72-hour rule.

Nearly every Republican has signed on, but the Democratic leadership is unwilling to cede control over when bills are brought to the floor for votes and are discouraging their rank and file from signing the petition. Senate Democrats voted down a similar measure last week for the health care bill.

To be fair, Republicans have sped bills to the floor as well. But what is the problem with a 72 hour rule? If the issue is that it interferes with the power to determine when a bill comes to the floor, it makes me suspect that the leadership doesn't know how to count backward 72 hours from the day they want to bring it to a vote.

Or, is there another reason? Hm, I wonder.

165 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:50:51am

Found another one:
Weasel Puke Coffee

Legal disclaimers:
And no, I get nothing from Thinkgeek except products "geek points" when I SPEND MY OWN MONEY there.

And I have NOT tried this coffee.

166 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:51:03am

re: #162 Guanxi88

Who is the Most, and how do we get him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs?

Ahh, who am I kidding, I'm the most, baby!

167 SixDegrees  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:51:09am

re: #153 Kosh's Shadow

How about Monkey Picked Tea?

Given monkeys' hygienic standards, I think I'll pass.

Damn! At 160 bucks per pound, I may have to go buy a monkey!

168 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:51:28am

re: #159 StillAMarine

Krups -- ah, yes. My uncle took me to a department store when I was a wee lad, and there was some Krups kitchenware was being demonstrated by a factory rep. My uncle was a tad puzzled by how the equipment worked, and probably looked a little clued out. The factory rep asked him, "Vhat? You are not familiar with Krups?"
To that my uncle replied, "I have visited your factories in Germany many times -- at night, and I did not land."
End of conversation.

Krups is not the company you are thinking of. The ammunition manufacture was Krupp...

[Link: commons.wikimedia.org...]

Not the same...

169 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:51:46am

re: #167 SixDegrees

Damn! At 160 bucks per pound, I may have to go buy a monkey!

It's cheaper in the long run, but rentals are always an option.

170 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:51:58am

re: #165 Kosh's Shadow

Found another one:
Weasel Puke Coffee

Legal disclaimers:
And no, I get nothing from Thinkgeek except products "geek points" when I SPEND MY OWN MONEY there.

And I have NOT tried this coffee.

That would probably go well with Crunchy Frog and Spring Surprise chocolates.

171 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:52:16am

re: #162 Guanxi88

Who is the Most, and how do we get him as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs?

I think he works for THIS GUY at the Pentagon's Iran Desk.

172 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:52:30am

re: #167 SixDegrees

Damn! At 160 bucks per pound, I may have to go buy a monkey!

From David Letterman?

173 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:52:33am

re: #170 Mad Al-Jaffee

That would probably go well with Crunchy Frog and Spring Surprise chocolates.

Or maybe Cockroach Cluster.

174 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:52:42am

re: #160 The Sanity Inspector

Jeff Jarvis over at Buzzmachine isn't loving this new regulation, at all.

I think he's over-reacting. Radically over-reacting, in fact. He's reading all kinds of stuff into the guidelines that isn't there.

175 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:52:45am

re: #159 StillAMarine

Krups -- ah, yes. My uncle took me to a department store when I was a wee lad, and there was some Krups kitchenware was being demonstrated by a factory rep. My uncle was a tad puzzled by how the equipment worked, and probably looked a little clued out. The factory rep asked him, "Vhat? You are not familiar with Krups?"
To that my uncle replied, "I have visited your factories in Germany many times -- at night, and I did not land."
End of conversation.

That's a great story!

176 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:53:17am

re: #155 SixDegrees

Wills' point is the narcissism in the Presidenst and Michelles speeches before the IOC

From the article (Wills) I saw

In the 41 sentences of her remarks, Michelle Obama used some form of the personal pronouns "I" or "me" 44 times. Her husband was, comparatively, a shrinking violet, using those pronouns only 26 times in 48 sentences. Still, 70 times in 89 sentences was sufficient to convey the message that somehow their fascinating selves were what made, or should have made, Chicago's case compelling

177 StillAMarine  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:53:18am

re: #161 Killgore Trout

"Mmmm, you can taste the monkey!"

Like chicken?

178 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:53:31am

re: #173 Kosh's Shadow

Or maybe Cockroach Cluster.

Anthrax Ripple; Ram's Bladder Cup

179 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:54:14am

re: #177 StillAMarine

Like chicken?

This is starting to remind me of an SNL commercial, "Bathroom Monkey."

180 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:54:42am

re: #176 sattv4u2

Wills' point is the narcissism in the Presidenst and Michelles speeches before the IOC

From the article (Wills) I saw

In the 41 sentences of her remarks, Michelle Obama used some form of the personal pronouns "I" or "me" 44 times. Her husband was, comparatively, a shrinking violet, using those pronouns only 26 times in 48 sentences. Still, 70 times in 89 sentences was sufficient to convey the message that somehow their fascinating selves were what made, or should have made, Chicago's case compelling

It's sheer idiocy. This is the stupidest tactic yet to smear Obama and his wife. There really are no depths to which the right won't go for that purpose, even if it makes them look like complete buffoons.

181 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:55:31am

re: #178 Guanxi88

Anthrax Ripple; Ram's Bladder Cup

As I recall, the frog in crunchy frog came from Iraq.

182 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:56:06am

re: #180 Charles

It's sheer idiocy. This is the stupidest tactic yet to smear Obama and his wife. There really are no depths to which the right won't go for that purpose, even if it makes them look like complete buffoons.


Lexicographic analysis has its place. This isn't it, however.

183 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:56:29am

Viva Capitalism!

184 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:57:29am

re: #181 John Neverbend

As I recall, the frog in crunchy frog came from Iraq.

Dew picked; flown from Iraq.
Lightly killed.
Sealed in a quintuple-smooth milk cream chocolate,
and lovingly frosted with glucose.

Don't you even take the bones out?

If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy now, would it?

185 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:57:50am

re: #182 John Neverbend

Lexicographic analysis has its place. This isn't it, however.

What George Will is doing is not lexigraphic analysis. It's simple word counting and it proves absolutely nothing.

186 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:58:06am

re: #184 Kosh's Shadow

Dew picked; flown from Iraq.
Lightly killed.
Sealed in a quintuple-smooth milk cream chocolate,
and lovingly frosted with glucose.

Don't you even take the bones out?

If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy now, would it?

Ah yes, that's it. Some things never become stale.

187 SixDegrees  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:58:25am

re: #176 sattv4u2

Wills' point is the narcissism in the Presidenst and Michelles speeches before the IOC

From the article (Wills) I saw

In the 41 sentences of her remarks, Michelle Obama used some form of the personal pronouns "I" or "me" 44 times. Her husband was, comparatively, a shrinking violet, using those pronouns only 26 times in 48 sentences. Still, 70 times in 89 sentences was sufficient to convey the message that somehow their fascinating selves were what made, or should have made, Chicago's case compelling

It's a crock of shit, is what it is. It's especially disturbing that someone of Will's caliber would sink to this level. It's an attempt to invent criticism when actual analysis fails to find any content worthy of critique.

This is the syllabic equivalent of all the leftard blogs that emphasized every "um" and "uh" in Bush's speeches. And every bit as worthy of scorn as those juvenile exercises.

188 jaunte  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:58:59am

People complaining about the current President's narcissistic tendencies might be too young to remember Richard Nixon.

189 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:59:05am

re: #39 Baier

I don't have a French Press, I have a Freedom Press. I like more liberty in my coffee.

I call mine a Freedom Press too. I also refer to my room spray as Freedom Lavender.

/OK, I have way too much fun with this.

190 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:59:39am

re: #188 jaunte

People complaining about the current President's narcissistic tendencies might be too young to remember Richard Nixon.


You could always play the tapes.

191 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:59:54am

re: #186 John Neverbend

Ah yes, that's it. Some things never become stale.

Well, if you don't eat your box of Whizzo chocolates by the "sell by" date, it will become stale.

192 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 9:59:59am

re: #189 SanFranciscoZionist

I call mine a Freedom Press too. I also refer to my room spray as Freedom Lavender.

/OK, I have way too much fun with this.

I call single malt scotch Freedom Juice.

193 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:00:21am

You know, Will could have removed the word-counting exercise without diminishing the point of the column by one whit.

194 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:00:23am

re: #180 Charles

It's sheer idiocy. This is the stupidest tactic yet to smear Obama and his wife. There really are no depths to which the right won't go for that purpose, even if it makes them look like complete buffoons.

I agree that "counting words' is lunacy. Better to look at the content of speeches and actions on the whole, and if you disagree with them propose different policies and/ or solutions

I am diametrically opposed to many of this admins policies present and future (not a mind reader,, meaning things that are proposed but not yet passed) , but won't jump up and down on every nuanced sentence the President utters on a stump speech

195 simoom  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:00:43am

re: #129 Guanxi88

I just wanna know who was the idiot (or enemy) who told him he should go. If it wasn't a done deal, he only risked looking ineffectual.

One thought I had, about what made him change his mind about going, was that after General McChrystal's recent comments in London, President Obama decided a face-to-face chat was in order (vs their more typical mediums of communication: by video conferencing and weekly status memos).

Chicago's bid was a long shot from the start - the press only started talking up their chances at the end because they speculated the Obama admin must have had inside information that triggered their decision to go to Copenhagen.

196 StillAMarine  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:00:52am

re: #168 Walter L. Newton

Actually I think the German Krups is owned by a French outfit.
A French Connection.

Krupp is really German, about 400 years old.

My uncle probably couldn't resist it.

197 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:00:58am

re: #188 jaunte

People complaining about the current President's narcissistic tendencies might be too young to remember Richard Nixon.

Dear God, that one had an actual enemies list. Not a rumored one, but an actual one. Nixon was paranoia personified.

198 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:01:05am

re: #194 sattv4u2

All of Obama's speeches have 666 words!!!

///

199 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:01:26am

re: #47 HoosierHoops

It's breast cancer awareness month...BTW.. I really like the NFL promoting it this month..Good for them

Just in case you didn't know, it's also European-American Heritage Month. I swear. We're reading 'European heritage facts' during the announcements every morning at my school. DID YOU KNOW that the Disney castle is based on a REAL castle in Germany?

The European American kids in my class did not exactly swell with pride when this was announced. I think we need better facts.

200 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:01:38am

re: #185 Charles

What George Will is doing is not lexigraphic analysis. It's simple word counting and it proves absolutely nothing.

What I am referring to is the lexicographic analysis that has been applied to certain classical novels, for example the work that John Burrows performed on the novels of Jane Austen. While the number of occurrences of certain words is important, the actual distribution is equally important. It's not appropriate to the case in which George Will applied it.

201 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:01:46am

re: #193 Guanxi88

You know, Will could have removed the word-counting exercise without diminishing the point of the column by one whit.

That's true -- it would have been a crappy column even without that section.

202 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:01:52am

re: #194 sattv4u2

I agree that "counting words' is lunacy. Better to look at the content of speeches and actions on the whole, and if you disagree with them propose different policies and/ or solutions

I am diametrically opposed to many of this admins policies present and future (not a mind reader,, meaning things that are proposed but not yet passed) , but won't jump up and down on every nuanced sentence the President utters on a stump speech


Agreed. There are so many policies I disagree with that it seems silly to count words and pronouns in his speeches. Talk about all the policies he is implementing and not implementing. That's plenty to dislike!

203 Boyo  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:01:57am

re: #180 Charles

why are they not seeing that these tactics are useless and only serve to undermine their parties strength more and more?

saner heads can see right through this garbage

204 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:02:15am

re: #198 Mad Al-Jaffee

All of Obama's speeches have 666 words!!!

///

Thats why I always listen while standing on my head

That way, it comes out to 999!

205 jaunte  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:02:45am

re: #197 Honorary Yooper

Dear God, that one had an actual enemies list. Not a rumored one, but an actual one. Nixon was paranoia personified.

Not to mention a special uniform design for his White House guard detail.

206 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:02:59am
207 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:03:16am

I am still completely baffled at why "conservative" commentators and pundits are eager to manufacture their own shiny objects and distract from some of the potentailly dangerous policy moves the current administration is making.

A week later who gives a rats anterior if the President pitched a failing bid for the Olympics. Where is health care, Afganistan troop levels, monitary policy, debt, the war on terror, civil liberties, energy policy..?

*sigh*

208 Millicent Islam  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:03:43am

re: #201 Charles

That's true -- it would have been a crappy column even without that section.

heh.

209 subsailor68  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:04:25am

re: #192 Mad Al-Jaffee

I call single malt scotch Freedom Juice.

And I called the South Beach Diet the Freedom Diet. 'Cause I loved the slogan:

"Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose."

210 vxbush  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:04:26am

re: #207 DaddyG

I am still completely baffled at why "conservative" commentators and pundits are eager to manufacture their own shiny objects and distract from some of the potentailly dangerous policy moves the current administration is making.

A week later who gives a rats anterior if the President pitched a failing bid for the Olympics. Where is health care, Afganistan troop levels, monitary policy, debt, the war on terror, civil liberties, energy policy..?

*sigh*

They think they are going for the low-hanging fruit.

211 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:04:31am

re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist

Just in case you didn't know, it's also European-American Heritage Month. I swear. We're reading 'European heritage facts' during the announcements every morning at my school. DID YOU KNOW that the Disney castle is based on a REAL castle in Germany?

The European American kids in my class did not exactly swell with pride when this was announced. I think we need better facts.

A real castle that was really a fantasy for the Bavarian king, "Mad" Ludwig. (No, not van Quixote)

It was never a "real" castle in the sense of a fortified residence and administrative center.

212 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:04:39am

re: #76 Kosh's Shadow

How about the "Do not eat" printed on the desiccant packages in products? Like I expect to eat something packed with a DVD player or something.

A teacher I know (wife of former coworker), had a sixth-grader try to poison her and another teacher by putting that stuff in their coffee. Swear to God.

213 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:05:21am

re: #203 Boyo

why are they not seeing that these tactics are useless and only serve to undermine their parties strength more and more?

saner heads can see right through this garbage

However, as we can see, saner heads are not prevailing, if they even are in existance in the first place. If there were saner heads, this sort of shit would be marginalized more.

214 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:05:32am

re: #212 SanFranciscoZionist

A teacher I know (wife of former coworker), had a sixth-grader try to poison her and another teacher by putting that stuff in their coffee. Swear to God.

That happened on Seinfeld once too!

215 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:05:41am

re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist

Just in case you didn't know, it's also European-American Heritage Month.

Oh no. They didn't.

What next, an Amerikadeutscher Bund festival?

216 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:06:06am

re: #80 MrSilverDragon

Whenever I get pho, I usually get the Vietnamese coffee w/ condensed milk. Now that's a treat.

Vietnamese restaurants are the best. You can have Asian food, followed by coffee. What's not to like?

217 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:06:14am

re: #203 Boyo

why are they not seeing that these tactics are useless and only serve to undermine their parties strength more and more?

saner heads can see right through this garbage

It must be a chronic case of the stupid virus (or gene).

218 Lee Coller  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:06:26am

I really don't care how often Obama uses "I" vs. "We" or "You" or whatever Will is counting. What I do care about is how tough he's going to get with the Iranians.

219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:06:26am

re: #212 SanFranciscoZionist

I am reading (listening, in fact) to a book right now that someone dies eating that stuff. Seriously.

Wierd...

220 stormy  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:06:49am

re: #106 Charles

Well, excuse me for trying to promote LGF stories I think are important.

Apologies if I offended you. I'm not asking/telling you to do anything with your blog. I just don't like to see them all the time on the subpages. The question was asked, "Am I the only one who is getting tired of the pink rubbish at the top of the LGF homepage?" and I responded.

While I'm giving opinions... I think your home-grown blog software is the best out there. If I didn't know better, I'd think Google Wave was borrowing ideas from you.

221 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:06:58am

re: #210 vxbush

They think they are going for the low-hanging fruit.

Low-hanging is right. Fruit maybe a generous interpretation.

222 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:07:00am

re: #215 DaddyG

Oh no. They didn't.

What next, an Amerikadeutscher Bund festival?

Heh. Almost read that as an "Anheuser-Busch festival".

223 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:07:27am

re: #219 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I am reading (listening, in fact) to a book right now that someone dies eating that stuff. Seriously.

Wierd...

and it happens in San Francisco...
Weirder

224 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:07:28am

"I have a dream."
Narcissist!
/Wingnut

225 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:07:32am

re: #216 SanFranciscoZionist

Vietnamese restaurants are the best. You can have Asian food, followed by coffee. What's not to like?

I'm having pho for dinner either tonight or tomorrow night. The one I go to also does grilled chicken or pork chops with rice. BIG portions. I can get three meals out of one dish.

226 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:07:54am

re: #212 SanFranciscoZionist

A teacher I know (wife of former coworker), had a sixth-grader try to poison her and another teacher by putting that stuff in their coffee. Swear to God.

Were they dessicated? /

227 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:09:56am

Was the Farkalanche canceled? what happened?

228 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:10:47am

re: #222 Honorary Yooper

Heh. Almost read that as an "Anheuser-Busch festival".

And now a slightly rude joke.

A man walks into a bar, goes to the female bar tender and says, "Anheuser-Busch."

The bar tender looks at him and says, "fine, and how's your dick?"

229 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:11:10am

Is anyone else getting the advertisement for online anger management classes?

Does that help you deal with all kinds of anger or only on-line anger? /

230 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:11:27am

re: #227 Killgore Trout

Was the Farkalanche canceled? what happened?

22 minutes and counting.

231 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:12:02am

Farkalanche?

(I am sooo 20th century)

232 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:12:09am

Will chose the easy target of the pronoun-counting as a way of sending up the overall clunkiness of the Obama rhetorical repertoire. For one reputed as a powerful orator, his speeches are sophomoric and vaporous. The narcissism thing hangs about him because of his fondness for publishing memoirs and his willingness to invoke a biography the full details of which are best know to him and to circle of persons with very questionable backgrounds and associations.

Were Obama to lhave the voice of an asthmatic lawyer from the Bronx, no one would listen to a thing he had to say.

233 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:12:24am

re: #214 Mad Al-Jaffee

That happened on Seinfeld once too!

Really? Weird.

234 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:12:45am

re: #227 Killgore Trout

Was the Farkalanche canceled? what happened?

Wazza "Farkalanche"?

Sounds like a Bavarian pastry!

235 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:13:08am

re: #215 DaddyG

Oh no. They didn't.

What next, an Amerikadeutscher Bund festival?

My Irish father is annoyed that we have to share with the Italians.

236 Gearhead  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:13:11am

Is this the David Pogue rule?

237 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:13:14am

re: #231 DaddyG

gmta (234)

238 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:13:23am

re: #234 sattv4u2

Wazza "Farkalanche"?

Sounds like a Bavarian pastry!

A mass of rolling farks with unstoppable momentum?

239 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:13:53am

re: #235 SanFranciscoZionist

My Irish father is annoyed that we have to share with the Italians.

Americay for the Americans, be'gorrah!

240 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:14:07am

re: #235 SanFranciscoZionist

My Irish father is annoyed that we have to share with the Italians.

Howdya think I feel

1/2 Italian
1/4 Irish
1/4 Sicilian!

241 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:14:07am

re: #222 Honorary Yooper

Heh. Almost read that as an "Anheuser-Busch festival".

I'd prefer that one, even though I won't drink their products.

242 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:14:38am

re: #229 DaddyG

Is anyone else getting the advertisement for online anger management classes?

Does that help you deal with all kinds of anger or only on-line anger? /

There's a cool banner ad showing up on right wing sites: usofearth-dot-com/2011-obamas-coup-fails-dot- php (I found it on Malkin's site)
It's on online war game set in a post apocalyptic waste land after Obama fails. Sounds fun.

243 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:14:47am

re: #216 SanFranciscoZionist

Vietnamese restaurants are the best. You can have Asian food, followed by coffee. What's not to like?

I dunno.. I was at a little join in Little Saigon in Honolulu once and ordered some fish dish..They just plopped a fish on the grill and slapped it on a plate..The whole frigging fish! You are just suppose to pick and eat a whole burnt fish? Meanwhile it's eyes are looking back at you ( Eating food that looks back at you is just wrong on some many levels)...I just looked back at the waiter and said you have got to be frigging kidding me!!
Never went to a Vietnamese place since...
But I loved the coffee!

244 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:14:52am

re: #241 SanFranciscoZionist

I'd prefer that one, even though I won't drink their products.

Don't they make a beer flavoured drink?

245 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:15:55am

"I understand the inventor of the bagpipes was inspired when he saw a man carrying an indignant, asthmatic pig under his arm. Unfortunately, the man-made object never equaled the purity of sound achieved by the pig." - Alfred Hitchcock

246 ROPMA  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:15:56am

re: #212 SanFranciscoZionist

A teacher I know (wife of former coworker), had a sixth-grader try to poison her and another teacher by putting that stuff in their coffee. Swear to God.

Desiccant packs are not toxic. They are a choke hazard.

247 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:16:05am

re: #243 HoosierHoops

I dunno.. I was at a little join in Little Saigon in Honolulu once and ordered some fish dish..They just plopped a fish on the grill and slapped it on a plate..The whole frigging fish! You are just suppose to pick and eat a whole burnt fish? Meanwhile it's eyes are looking back at you ( Eating food that looks back at you is just wrong on some many levels)...I just looked back at the waiter and said you have got to be frigging kidding me!!
Never went to a Vietnamese place since...
But I loved the coffee!

My wife went with me to a Chinese New Year banquet and was appalled to see a whole fish, head and all, fried crisp in a red sauce staring at her from the middle of the table. Tasty, but a little unsettling.

248 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:16:25am

re: #226 DaddyG

Were they dessicated? /

Everyone lived. The superintendent for the diocese told my friend's wife that she shouldn't have had a drink in her classroom.

The Oakland Diocese is so supportive.

249 Learned Mother of Zion  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:16:48am

re: #243 HoosierHoops

I dunno.. I was at a little join in Little Saigon in Honolulu once and ordered some fish dish..They just plopped a fish on the grill and slapped it on a plate..The whole frigging fish! You are just suppose to pick and eat a whole burnt fish? Meanwhile it's eyes are looking back at you ( Eating food that looks back at you is just wrong on some many levels)...I just looked back at the waiter and said you have got to be frigging kidding me!!
Never went to a Vietnamese place since...
But I loved the coffee!

I went to a restaurant in Tiberias, on the shore of the Kinneret (Sea of Galilee) and ordered the "St. Peter's Fish" which is a speciality.

They take a whole fish, put it in a fry basket and deep fry the whole thing.

Absolutely delicious!

250 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:18:07am

re: #239 Guanxi88

Americay for the Americans, be'gorrah!

"'Tis a grand country altogether, the only trouble is, there's too many furriners in it."

251 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:18:29am

re: #243 HoosierHoops

( Eating food that looks back at you is just wrong on some many levels)

"A large dairy animal approached Zaphod Beeblebrox's table, a large fat meaty quadruped of the bovine type with large watery eyes, small horns and what might almost have been an ingratiating smile on its lips.

'Good evening,' it lowed and sat back heavily on its haunches, 'I am the main dish of the day. May I interest you in parts of my body?' "

252 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:19:16am

re: #242 Killgore Trout

From the description of the game...

Private Ownership of firearms has been outlawed, and Obama has promised a new era of equality and peace. Unfortunately for Obama, Americans would not act like the sheep he had taken them for. Revolution begins.
...
With the Joint Chiefs of Staff guaranteeing the nationwide free elections 60 days after Obama's capture, it seems America's Second Revolution is nearly at an end.

Join in NOW and help Capture Obama and the renegade Cong. Defeat the Union Troops and other allies of the former President and help safeguard American Freedom.


ha!

253 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:19:26am

re: #250 SanFranciscoZionist

"'Tis a grand country altogether, the only trouble is, there's too many furriners in it."

My family came over on the Mayflower. If we wanted America for the Americans we would have to go back to Europe.

254 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:19:32am

re: #246 ROPMA

Desiccant packs are not toxic. They are a choke hazard.

Well, the sixth-grader saw the DO NOT EAT, and assumed it was toxic. Just as glad no one choked.

255 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:20:16am

re: #247 Guanxi88

My wife went with me to a Chinese New Year banquet and was appalled to see a whole fish, head and all, fried crisp in a red sauce staring at her from the middle of the table. Tasty, but a little unsettling.

Also lucky. Ashkenazim do that for New Years too. Different New Year.

256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:20:20am

re: #243 HoosierHoops

"Deck the harrs with boughs of horry, fa ra ra ra ra, ra ra ra ra. "

257 reine.de.tout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:21:15am

Charles - are you going to open registration to coincide with the farkalanche?

258 Learned Mother of Zion  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:21:27am

re: #255 SanFranciscoZionist

Also lucky. Ashkenazim do that for New Years too. Different New Year.

We use a smoked chub. Really cuts down on the gag reflex.

259 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:21:37am

re: #252 Killgore Trout

Hmmm...There's a creepy racial tinge to the game too...

Mission: To defeat all enemies of the United States, both foreign and domestic. Includes:

* C.O.R.N.Y. (Congress of Rejected and Neglected Youth) Shock Troops
* Obama's police force (Ameritroops)
* The Cong (Former congressional leaders)
* Nation of Malsi (Islamic fundamentalist troops)
* Black Tigers (black nationalist troops loyal to Obama)
* NHKS (National Honor Killing Society) Yet another Islamic army
* I.S.U.E. ( International Service Union Empire) Troops
* U.N. (United Nations) Peacekeepers


To Win: If you control 10 counties by end of turn 40, you get 1 'win' in challenge section.

260 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:21:45am

re: #254 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, the sixth-grader saw the DO NOT EAT, and assumed it was toxic. Just as glad no one choked.

The science teacher lived through the poisoning attack but soon died of embarassment due to the poor level of comprehension among his Chemistry students. /

261 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:22:15am

re: #258 Alouette

We use a smoked chub. Really cuts down on the gag reflex.


There is a Monica Lewisnsky joke in there somewhwere.

262 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:22:26am

re: #255 SanFranciscoZionist

Also lucky. Ashkenazim do that for New Years too. Different New Year.

Course it's lucky. Fish (carp, in this case) are golden in color, their scales look vaguely like coins, and they're naturally golden in color. Add red to it, and cook it in oil (also a lucky thing) and you've got one auspicious dish. (My family are outta Poland by way of Germany, but I work for & with a crap-load of South Chinese; one notices the occasional overlap.)

263 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:22:28am

re: #260 DaddyG

The science teacher lived through the poisoning attack but soon died of embarassment due to the poor level of comprehension among his Chemistry students. /

The kid was forced, as part of his punishment, to write a report on the stuff.

264 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:22:49am

re: #256 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Deck the harrs with boughs of horry, fa ra ra ra ra, ra ra ra ra. "

It's a beautiful duck. It really is. But you see, it's smiling at me.

265 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:23:34am

re: #262 Guanxi88

Course it's lucky. Fish (carp, in this case) are golden in color, their scales look vaguely like coins, and they're naturally golden in color. Add red to it, and cook it in oil (also a lucky thing) and you've got one auspicious dish. (My family are outta Poland by way of Germany, but I work for & with a crap-load of South Chinese; one notices the occasional overlap.)

There is a certain amount of cultural alignment--but their food tastes a whole lot better. Sad but true.

266 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:23:40am

re: #147 Mad Al-Jaffee

Or they sell this "crappy" Indonesian coffee.

We're talking about Indonesian coffee in a thread on trade regulations? Just like Obama is an Indonesian Muslim? SOCIALISM!!
//Mark Williams

267 Baier  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:24:55am

re: #119 Charles


There are some nice comments about LGF on the link.

sigdiamond2000 [TotalFark] 2009-10-06 12:02:01 PM
ne2d: Code_Archeologist: Wow... LGF is on a pretty good roll to becoming a source for rational conservatism. Here is hoping that they survive the back lash of trying to save their ideology from itself.

Becoming? It has been for quite a while now.

That's why Charles Johnson enjoys such universal respect among conservative bloggers.

268 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:25:01am

re: #265 SanFranciscoZionist

There is a certain amount of cultural alignment--but their food tastes a whole lot better. Sad but true.

And is excellent on Christmas Day. (If you're smiling, you're one of the team.)

269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:25:18am

re: #262 Guanxi88

Not lucky for the fish...

270 ROPMA  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:25:42am

Completely off track

A message from your school

271 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:26:12am

re: #269 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Not lucky for the fish...

Well, it shouldn't have been so tasty, and it shouldn't have reminded so much of money.

272 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:26:12am

Regarding Will's word counting -

Obama is being effectively defined by his opponents as aloof, self infatuated, narcissistic, and having placed too much stock in his own gifts.

Much of this is predictable and of Obama's own doing.

But at this juncture it is getting to simply be "piling on" and following any stronger arguments up with very weak ones.

If the effort here is to get America moving forward again then this is the time to stick to the strongest arguments - the economic ones. The ones that the Republicans once owned but lost to Clinton, and then cut loose and kissed goodbye under a spendthrift Bush. Time to recapture the most compelling argument for the Republican brand - a freer economy produces a freer and more prosperous people.

So why don't they do it?

Because this is not about saving America. It is about cheering us into a ditch which only a SoCon savior can help us recover from. Because, for some "reason", America will be in the mood for another inexperienced ideological savior having just elected one from the other extreme.

This really is as moronic as it is counterproductive. The Republicans have a chance to rehabilitate the brand while also taking credit for the Clinton years (which they can do by claiming "we saved the last one from himself, and we can with this one too). They are too stupid to see that. Blinded by the prospect of creating the anarchic conditions for the SoCon savior to deliver SoCon utopia.

Asshats, they are.

273 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:26:42am

re: #262 Guanxi88

Occasional? I thought you were Chinese.

274 MrSilverDragon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:26:54am

re: #243 HoosierHoops

(Eating food that looks back at you is just wrong on some many levels)

I remember going to a seafood restaurant in Lisbon when I was younger. I was not well versed in the language but fortunately the waiter was pretty good with English. I asked him what would be good and get me a nice variety. I ended up with a seafood platter with lots of different items on it. One of the items, however, was a whole fish on the plate, head to fin. When they placed the plate down, the fish was staring at my sister.

She ended up not being able to eat her meal because my dinner was staring at her. She most certainly didn't forgive me when I puppetized the mouth and made the fish say, "please don't let him eat me, I have a wife and a thousand eggs at home!"

Sometimes I'm such an dickhead.

275 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:28:42am

re: #252 Killgore Trout

From the description of the game...

ha!

Not "Obama (and his predecessors') attempts to negotiate the end of the Iranian program fail, after giving Iran enough time to complete their weapons program.
They then threaten to nuke oil producing locations with dirty bombs, and block the Straits of Hormuz with wrecked tankers, unless the Sunnis admit their errors and become Shi'ite, and unless the world hands over Israel to the Arabs.
When Israel refuses, despite all the pressure, the Iranians make good on their threat.
Without oil, the industrialized world collapses. Chaos reigns."

And, BTW, this is why the Iranians need to be stopped NOW.

276 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:29:29am

re: #270 ROPMA

Completely off track

A message from your school

Interesting. Wrong dial tone for Australia, and the announcer doesn't have an Australian accent. Furthermore the spelling errors are so egregious as to lead me to believe that it's a hoax. However, it's very funny, and I'm going to suggest that my children's school uses it.

277 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:30:57am

re: #272 karmic_inquisitor

Part of the reason why we have a general absence of specific arguments contra Obama is that we don't yet have clear formulations from Obama. He's harangued us no end about what isn't in his health insurance bill, but that's because he doesn't have one.

His economic policies seem to consist largely of the policies favored by the Democratic party for some time now, with a healthy dose of bought-and-paid-for Republican support to boot, but, once more, are so lacking in specifics as to be all but meaningless. He has no economic plan, and this is because anyone who claims to have an economic plan is a fool or things his audience is.

He's talked the anti-war talk, but I support his handling of the war effort thus far; he'll come through with the troops, I'm sure, and we'll continue to see strikes proceed apace. He makes noises about sanctions on Iran, but I suspect he's hoping that others will step in and resolve the matter. He can remain above the fray and tut-tut at Israel for taking care of business, and breathe a sigh of relief that it's all over.

There's nothing there with the Obama; it's almost as if he did not expect he'd get elected or have to govern.

278 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:31:05am

re: #249 Alouette

I went to a restaurant in Tiberias, on the shore of the Kinneret (Sea of Galilee) and ordered the "St. Peter's Fish" which is a speciality.

They take a whole fish, put it in a fry basket and deep fry the whole thing.

Absolutely delicious!

That is just so wrong..There should be a law...
You fillet some tasty fish like Walleye..In a frying pan and mix together wine wine and heavy cream and seasonings.. You briefly cook the fish on low temp for 5 min.. Remove..Put them on foil and in between 2 fillets and add your favorite 2 cheeses.. I like a sharp Coby and a mild white cheese...Bake for 20 minutes at 350 all wrapped up in foil.. Remove and place on a plate and pour that yummy sauce over the fish..Garnish..Serve...
That's how you eat fish Hoopster style...

279 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:31:31am

re: #275 Kosh's Shadow

At the bottom of the page there's a fake news section with future headlines about Pamella Geller leading an army to close the last mosque in America or Michelle Malkin capturing Rahm Emanuel. Very strange. I'm all for fantasy games but it gets kinda creepy when it's over politicized like that.

280 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:32:02am

re: #273 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Occasional? I thought you were Chinese.

Nope, American Jew, raised in Appalachia, of Polish extraction, surrounded by Chinese all day every day for my work. They'll still bark at me in Cantonese sometimes, forgetting that I can't keep up with them.

281 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:33:29am

re: #278 HoosierHoops

Cheese on walleye?

Sacrilege.

282 DaddyG  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:33:33am

re: #280 Guanxi88

Nope, American Jew, raised in Appalachia, of Polish extraction, surrounded by Chinese all day every day for my work. They'll still bark at me in Cantonese sometimes, forgetting that I can't keep up with them.

Sounds like the gang that built the Union Pacific railway...

283 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:34:19am

re: #279 Killgore Trout

At the bottom of the page there's a fake news section with future headlines about Pamella Geller leading an army to close the last mosque in America or Michelle Malkin capturing Rahm Emanuel. Very strange. I'm all for fantasy games but it gets kinda creepy when it's over politicized like that.

I agree that game is creepy, as are the people who put it together; I'd guess they think is is a possible scenario.

My scenario frightens me more because I think it is more likely. Those people are deluded if they think they're really going to put together a revolution, but Iran is going to get nuclear weapons if they aren't stopped.

284 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:34:36am

BTW, I know there's no real prayer list now, but Irish Rose is feeling a bit under the weather and would like to be kept in our prayers that she feels better soon.

Thanks.

285 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:34:48am

By the way, the book I am listening to right now is "A Dirty Job" by Christopher Moore.

It's odd, to say the least...

286 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:35:12am

re: #282 DaddyG

Sounds like the gang that built the Union Pacific railway...

Well, I never thought about it like that, but, yeah! Ain't that America, though?

287 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:35:21am

re: #281 Noam Sayin'

Cheese on walleye?

Sacrilege.

Cheese and sauce inside Walleye baked ..With the sauce covering the dish and a touch of homemade Dill sauce...

288 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:37:42am

re: #280 Guanxi88

Where in Appalachia? Pretty broad (or was that on purpose?).

289 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:38:14am

re: #288 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Where in Appalachia? Pretty broad (or was that on purpose?).

West Virginia; Ripley to be a bit more precise.

290 [deleted]  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:39:16am
291 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:39:36am

re: #289 Guanxi88

West Virginia; Ripley to be a bit more precise.

A bit about the booming metropolis from whence I came:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

The last public hanging in West Virginia took place in Ripley in 1897, when John Morgan was hanged for murder; the spectacle prompted the West Virginia Legislature to ban public executions soon after.

292 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:39:47am

re: #287 HoosierHoops

Seasoned flour, nothing more. If you Hoosiers don't start appreciating the fine taste of walleye, us Minnesotans are going to stop sending it to you.

Don't get me started on those cretin Wisconsinites and their beer batter.

293 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:39:57am

re: #280 Guanxi88

Nope, American Jew, raised in Appalachia, of Polish extraction, surrounded by Chinese all day every day for my work. They'll still bark at me in Cantonese sometimes, forgetting that I can't keep up with them.

Here's a Jewish joke which not everybody will know. There are two Jewish men sitting in a well known deli in New York in a very Jewish section of Manhattan, talking Yiddish. A Chinese waiter approaches them and in fluent Yiddish asks if everything is ok, can he get them anything else, etc.. The two men are stunned. After paying the bill, they approach the owner of the deli, a friend who is fluent in Yiddish and say, "Nu, where did the waiter learn to speak such wonderful Yiddish?" Immediately the owner leans towards them and says, "Sha! He thinks we're teaching him English."

294 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:39:58am

re: #289 Guanxi88

Blew by it more than once on I77...

295 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:40:10am

re: #290 walkman

And with that, I cordially invite you to piss off.

296 MJ  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:40:27am

Thirty-Six Years Ago Today, Richard Nixon Saved Israel—but Got No Credit

...What is clear, from the preponderance of information provided by those directly involved in the unfolding events, is that President Richard Nixon — overriding inter-administration objections and bureaucratic inertia — implemented a breathtaking transfer of arms, code-named Operation Nickel Grass, that over a four-week period involved hundreds of jumbo U.S. military aircraft delivering more than 22,000 tons of armaments...

[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]

297 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:40:47am

re: #294 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Blew by it more than once on I77...

Easy to do. Never was too awful much there. I miss it sometimes.

298 Plato  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:41:43am

Grind and brew
Grind and brew
Sometimes happy sometimes blue
Glad that I ran into you
We're all brothers
And we like to grind and brew

I saw Jesus at the table
His last meal too
And I asked him just what he would like to do
He said pour a little cream, things aren't half bad as they seem
We're all brothers
And we like to grind and brew

(Chorus)

I saw Lincoln in the office
When he let the people go
I said 'gee that's nice' you're starting something new
He just poured a cup himself, got some cubes down from the shelf
And proceeded then to take him one or two

(chorus)

299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:42:20am

re: #295 Charles

Not much of a shelf life, that one.

300 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:42:24am

re: #261 DaddyG

There is a Monica Lewisnsky joke in there somewhwere.

Or Pamela Anderson.

301 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:46:33am

Farkalanche in progress.

302 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:46:35am

re: #292 Noam Sayin'

Seasoned flour, nothing more. If you Hoosiers don't start appreciating the fine taste of walleye, us Minnesotans are going to stop sending it to you.

Don't get me started on those cretin Wisconsinites and their beer batter.

LOL
Dude..I have a fishing Cabin on Lake Tomahawk, Wi.
4 weeks a year I live in paradise...I'm a lousy fisherman..I try..But the boat always seems to pull off at some bar along the lake..I love hooking up with all the locals up there...Just class acts..They let me play snowshoe softball once with the local team...

303 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:46:38am

re: #300 Mad Al-Jaffee

Or Pamela Anderson.

Nah. A Pam Anderson joke would be full of silicone.

304 stormy  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:46:49am

re: #281 Noam Sayin'

Cheese on walleye?

Sacrilege.

Then you haven't tried it dipped in flour, egg, and Parmesan. Saute in a non-stick pan over medium high heat until it is a golden brown crust. Spectacular!

For a healthier version, you can just salt/pepper and cover with Parm and bake in a dish covered in foil at 325 until done.

305 Pianobuff  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:47:11am

Hmmm... Rush may be part of a group making a bid to buy the Rams.

Would never have thunk it.

306 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:47:12am

re: #296 MJ

Thirty-Six Years Ago Today, Richard Nixon Saved Israel—but Got No Credit

And the British government at the time under Edward "Grocer" Heath passed a motion in the Commons, an embargo against all arms deliveries to the Middle East. Of course, the weapons that were embargoed affected Israel far more than the Arab attackers.

I remember reading the debate in Hansard. My mother contacted our MP and asked him not to vote with the government. Needless to say, he ignored us. Well, what else are constituents for, except to be ignored?

307 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:47:53am

re: #303 Honorary Yooper

Nah. A Pam Anderson joke would be full of silicone.

I guess you never saw the "vacation" video she made with Tommy Lee?

308 JRCMYP  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:48:13am

Charles if you review one of my products I'll send you a free hippity hop. I'll even send you the size for 9+ year olds. ;)

309 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:49:11am

re: #301 Killgore Trout

Farkalanche in progress.

Get'cha helmets on, people.

310 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:49:13am

1,000 clicks in about 10 minutes. Pretty impressive.

311 HoosierHoops  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:49:15am

re: #304 stormy

Then you haven't tried it dipped in flour, egg, and Parmesan. Saute in a non-stick pan over medium high heat until it is a golden brown crust. Spectacular!

For a healthier version, you can just salt/pepper and cover with Parm and bake in a dish covered in foil at 325 until done.

I really like white wine and heavy cream with seasoning to cook fish in..With the right seasoning combo you can take it different directions...

312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:50:12am

re: #305 Pianobuff

Well, they certainly won't evolve into a better team...

313 Liberally Conservative  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:50:12am

I can't believe nobody mentioned this xkcd comic yet!

314 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:50:21am

I'm also in the dark about this Farkalanche. And I can't access Fark from work.

315 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:51:28am

Waitaminute, you knew about the incoming Farkalanche before it hit the Politics page. You got a TF membership, Charles?

316 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:52:42am

re: #314 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'm also in the dark about this Farkalanche. And I can't access Fark from work.

The linked article is the one about Rove supporting the Creationist from yesterday.

317 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:53:49am

re: #277 Guanxi88

Good points. Did you see the item on Politico about Craig being lined up to take the fall on Gitmo? While being a bit harsh on the matter, the piece does carry this interesting observation:

“To a certain extent, they had drunk a lot of the far-left Kool-aid: that everybody, or most people, at Guantanamo were innocent and shouldn’t be there, and the Bush administration was not working very hard to resolve these issues, and that the issues were fairly easy to resolve once adults who were really committed to doing something about it in charge,” said one Bush official who met with Obama’s aides during the transition on Gitmo. “It became clear to me they had not really done their homework on the details.”

Specifics have not been a strong suit with the Obama admin which is also of concern for any businesses contemplating expansion: what will be the costs with new regulations? They are unknown and the admin does not lay out a set of specifics as has been the case on Health Care. It is a very real problem.

I agree on the war handling so far. My concern is Afghanistan. Ironic that Shinseki was championed by the left and condemned by the right regarding public statements about troop levels for Iraq and the roles are now reversed completely regarding McChrystal.

318 sattv4u2  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:54:05am

re: #305 Pianobuff

Hmmm... Rush may be part of a group making a bid to buy the Rams.

Would never have thunk it.

He loves sports, was born in Missouri (so St Louise would be his 'home" team") and liked his time in sports when he worked for the KC Royals

319 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:54:08am

re: #301 Killgore Trout

Farkalanche in progress.

I clicked on the link, and I'm looking at a page that is reminiscent of the view of the Matrix from inside the Nebuchadnezzar. What exactly am I looking at?

320 What, me worry?  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:54:23am

re: #296 MJ

Thirty-Six Years Ago Today, Richard Nixon Saved Israel—but Got No Credit

[Link: www.commentarymagazine.com...]

Nixon saved the Jews. I often say it, but I often wonder what would have happened to us had Nixon not done what he did. And he was an anti-Semite to boot. He did it to have a foothold in the M.E. against communism. But that's ok. I will always consider him a friend of Israel and no president since has come close.

321 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:56:00am

re: #320 marjoriemoon

Nixon saved the Jews. I often say it, but I often wonder what would have happened to us had Nixon not done what he did. And he was an anti-Semite to boot. He did it to have a foothold in the M.E. against communism. But that's ok. I will always consider him a friend of Israel and no president since has come close.

"A singular case." - The Sign of Four

322 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:56:08am

First Amendment! Fourth Amendment!
First they go after the blog owners; next thing you know they'll be going after the...um...uh...whatever the heck I am.
Does this mean that I'm gonna have to declare my Zionist paycheck on my tax return?
///

323 drogheda  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:56:10am

re: #279 Killgore Trout

At the bottom of the page there's a fake news section with future headlines about Pamella Geller leading an army to close the last mosque in America or Michelle Malkin capturing Rahm Emanuel. Very strange. I'm all for fantasy games but it gets kinda creepy when it's over politicized like that.

Did you check out the "More" links on those news items? Links to all sorts of places. Including Lew Rockwell, Ron Paul, Daily Paul, Michelle Malkins, even a link to the shrieking harpy.

You're right. Highly politicized and creepy.

I'm not sure if it's supposed to be just a game or if it hopes to draw people in and expose them to those viewpoints, or to drive traffic to those sites.

324 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:56:20am

re: #319 John Neverbend

You're looking all the traffic coming in from Fark.

325 Pianobuff  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:57:27am

re: #318 sattv4u2

He loves sports, was born in Missouri (so St Louise would be his 'home" team") and liked his time in sports when he worked for the KC Royals

All stuff I didn't know. So if they strike a deal, will the fans be called dittoheads?

There's probably some good double entendres to be had but my brain isn't functioning as well as I'd like.

326 Danny  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:58:01am

re: #324 Killgore Trout

You're looking all the traffic coming in from Fark.

And everywhere else.

327 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:58:34am

re: #323 drogheda

Did you check out the "More" links on those news items? Links to all sorts of places. Including Lew Rockwell, Ron Paul, Daily Paul, Michelle Malkins, even a link to the shrieking harpy.

You're right. Highly politicized and creepy.

I'm not sure if it's supposed to be just a game or if it hopes to draw people in and expose them to those viewpoints, or to drive traffic to those sites.

The more I looked around that site it became clear that there's a racial angle. All the "enemy" armies are blacks, muslims, and socialists. It's no surprise that Ron Paul, Lew Rockwell, Alex Jones and Michelle Malkin are very popular there.

328 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:58:56am

re: #324 Killgore Trout

You're looking all the traffic coming in from Fark.

I'm not sure how this works. Is Fark another blogging site? Then, does the page that you posted show that Fark bloggers have sent notes to each other within Fark space including a link to various LGF threads?

329 Danny  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 11:00:50am

re: #328 John Neverbend

I'm not sure how this works. Is Fark another blogging site? Then, does the page that you posted show that Fark bloggers have sent notes to each other within Fark space including a link to various LGF threads?

Fark is a web aggregator site where members can chat about stuff on the web. Here's what is bringing them to LGF:

[Link: www.fark.com...]

330 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 11:01:10am

re: #302 HoosierHoops

So that's where you picked up your peculinarities.

re: #304 stormy

I've tried it many ways. I think they all needlessly cover the taste of the fish, save for maybe a crushed almond dredge.

331 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 11:02:47am

re: #328 John Neverbend

I'm not sure how this works. Is Fark another blogging site? Then, does the page that you posted show that Fark bloggers have sent notes to each other within Fark space including a link to various LGF threads?

Fark is a new aggregator site. The members submit links to news articles with their own(sometimes fracking hilarious) headlines. The best ones are posted, and the members get to comment on them. Often, getting linked to Fark can bring down a server.

/Farkers represent

332 Ascher  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 11:05:09am

re: #331 Dante41

Fark is a new aggregator site. The members submit links to news articles with their own(sometimes fracking hilarious) headlines. The best ones are posted, and the members get to comment on them. Often, getting linked to Fark can bring down a server.

/Farkers represent

You probably mean "news" and not new. Unless of course you've been asleep for a while lol

333 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 11:06:08am

re: #332 imp_62

You probably mean "news" and not new. Unless of course you've been asleep for a while lol

Of course. Its Not News, its Fark!

334 debutaunt  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 11:13:26am

re: #254 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, the sixth-grader saw the DO NOT EAT, and assumed it was toxic. Just as glad no one choked.

I would expect it would make you extraordinarily thirsty.

335 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 11:19:32am

re: #295 Charles

And with that, I cordially invite you to piss off.

Sorry I took the time to explain the rules to him last night. It obviously didn't sink in.

336 mj  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 11:20:35am

re: #320 marjoriemoon

Nixon saved the Jews. I often say it, but I often wonder what would have happened to us had Nixon not done what he did. And he was an anti-Semite to boot. He did it to have a foothold in the M.E. against communism. But that's OK. I will always consider him a friend of Israel and no president since has come close.

Nixon saw Israel as an ally. Nixon, unlike any President since, was strategic thinker- he was a Realist in world affairs ( unlike those today who pretend they are the new Realists ). By this, I mean Nixon saw the world in terms of power politics and balance of power realtionships. He sought to surround the Arab countries- which at that time were pro-Soviet- with American allies. Thus, the three pillars of American foregoing policy in the Middle East were Israel, Iran, and Turkey. Unfortunately, Carter destroyed that balance which left Israel and Turkey. Relations with Turkey are at low ebb nowadays and they no longer can be trusted as an American ally.
That leaves Israel...which the current Administration sees as a hindrance to warmer relations with those who have no interest in promoting Western values.

337 harry91  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 7:42:38pm

I have now seen god and it is the

Krups KM7000 Grind-and-Brew 10-Cup Coffeemaker, Black

Do you get a kickback on that purchase Charles? If so when I'm bugging my wonderful wife should she go through that link? I was gonna go for my Doctor Who fix this Christmas but this seems so much more responsible.

338 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 10:26:07pm

re: #337 harry91

I have now seen god and it is the

Krups KM7000 Grind-and-Brew 10-Cup Coffeemaker, Black

Do you get a kickback on that purchase Charles? If so when I'm bugging my wonderful wife should she go through that link? I was gonna go for my Doctor Who fix this Christmas but this seems so much more responsible.

Yes, click the link in my post and I get a small cut of the purchase price.

339 Plato  Wed, Oct 7, 2009 4:53:25pm

re: #338 Charles

Busted!

Put your hands on the car. Oh...a wise guy...eh?

Do you want one lump or two?

340 Ilan Toren  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 11:26:33pm

This recalls the Mel Brooks raisinette story. This was before product placements in movies so when he had a character ask for raisinettes in Blazing Saddles he received a gift of a case of rasinettes. It was in an interview I saw a long time ago (supposedly Playboy in 1975 according to Google search). It was a hilarious story. So maybe they'll ship you an extra Roomba or Kindle.

341 Ilan Toren  Thu, Oct 8, 2009 11:42:33pm

re: #26 lawhawk

I think that adsense and the Amazon affiliate program use key words on the page plus the location of the user to determine which ads go up on the page. The agreement is that you have to use the ads you request. My company heavily uses adsense and we make the call for ads for each request. If we don't want certain types of ads we simply skip the call to Adsense (for example certain sex related words don't work for our site so we just refrain from sending a request). Since the site owner isn't determining which ads are shown on the site there is nothing to disclose.


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