Still More Advertisers Bailing Out on Beck

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Left wing group Color of Change has announced that 19 more major companies have pulled their advertisements from the Glenn Beck Comedy Hour.

OAKLAND, Calif.—ColorOfChange.org has confirmed that 19 new companies whose ads aired recently during Fox News Channel’s Glenn Beck program have asked Fox to stop their ads from running or pledged to not to run ads on the show going forward. The latest additions –AmMed Direct, Citrix Online, Concord Music Group, Diageo, Eggland’s Best, Equifax, Eulactol USA (producer of Flexitol), GetARoom.com, Hoffman La Roche (maker of BONIVA), Metropolitan Talent Management, ooVoo, Overture Films, Scarguard, Schiff Nutrition (maker of Tiger’s Milk and Fi-Bar), Seoul Metropolitan Government, Subaru, Toyota-Lexus, Waitrose and Woodland Power Products, Inc. – bring the total number of companies that have distanced themselves from Beck to 80. This after Beck called President Obama a “racist” who “has a deep-seated hatred for white people” during an appearance on Fox & Friends.

The news comes on the heels of stories that broke throughout British newspapers on Monday, reporting that advertisers seen during Beck’s program in England are feeling the heat as well. Diageo – a London-based alcohol company that makes Guinness, Tanqueray and many other brands of spirits – joined Waitrose – a popular British supermarket chain used to supply groceries to the Royal Family – and cut their advertising ties with Beck. Waitrose, along with the U.S.-based Metropolitan Talent Management, adds to a growing list of companies who are not only taking a stance against Glenn Beck, but against Fox News Channel. …

Previous companies who have corrected advertising errors and/or pulled their ads entirely include Aegon, Ashley Furniture, Airware Inc. (makers of Brez anti-snoring aids), Allergan (maker of Restasis), Ally Bank (a unit of GMAC Financial Services), Ancestry.com, Applebee’s, AT&T, Bank of America, Best Buy, Binder & Binder, Blaine Labs Inc., Broadview Security, Campbell Soup Company, Capital One, ConAgra, Clorox, CVS, The Dannon Company, DirecTv, Discover, Ditech, The Elations Company, Experian (creator of FreeCreditReport.com), Farmers Insurance Group, GEICO, General Mills, HSBC, Humana, ICAN Benefit Group Insurance, Infiniti, Jelmar (manufacturer of CLR All-Purpose Cleaner) Johnson & Johnson (makers of Tylenol), Jordan McKenna Debt Counseling Network, Kraft, Lawyers.com, Lowe’s, Luxottica Retail (retail parent of LensCrafters and Pearle Vision), Men’s Wearhouse, Mercedes-Benz, NutriSystem, Procter & Gamble, Progressive Insurance, RadioShack, Re-Bath, Regions Financial Corporation, Sam (Store and Move), SC Johnson, Sanofi-Aventis, Sargento, Simplex Healthcare (creator of the Diabetes Care Club), Sprint, State Farm Insurance, Traveler’s Insurance, Travelocity, United States Postal Service, The UPS Store, Verizon Wireless, Vonage, Wal-Mart and Wyeth Consumer Healthcare.

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302 comments
1 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:21:13pm

Looks like more people are starting to realise what a fucked up raving nutjob Glenn Beck is.
Good.

2 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:21:15pm

Bleeding 'ell! Even Guinness is pulling their ads (Diageo, actually).

3 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:21:15pm
bring the total number of companies that have distanced themselves from Beck to 80.

At some point, Fox can't continue ignoring this.

4 Haole  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:24:35pm

“We never, ever planned on advertising on that particular show,” said Alan Graham, Marketing Vice President of Scarguard Labs,

5 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:24:58pm
bring the total number of companies that have distanced themselves from Beck to 80

Is that about the same as the number of former lizards who flounced over criticism of Beck?

6 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:26:52pm

Whoa. Toyota pulled out? That's big.

7 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:27:09pm
and cut their advertising ties with Beck. Waitrose, along with the U.S.-based Metropolitan Talent Management, adds to a growing list of companies who are not only taking a stance against Glenn Beck, but against Fox News Channel. ...

And that's what will really get the powers that be to notice something is wrong- when advertisers start leaving the network as a whole. How much longer until these advertisers notice the issues at Fox go much deeper than Glenn Beck, and are actually systemic?

8 rick_too  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:29:27pm

From a strictly business standpoint, it's a question of ratings vs. revenue vs. ideology.

Beck's ratings are great, but the revenue has got to be down because of the ad boycott. So maybe call that an even wash? Presumably Fox is willing to take a hit in upfront cash to build its audience and brand.

If revenue and ratings sort of cancel each other out, the deciding factor is ideology. Does Fox want to become a populist / socially conservative outlet? That's the direction they're headed.

Whether that's a business decision - or one made by Rupert Murdoch's personal goals - is a matter open to conjecture.

9 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:29:34pm

re: #5 wrenchwench

Is that about the same as the number of former lizards who flounced over criticism of Beck?

I think it's represented mathematically by &#8711.B = 0
which means that the flux of Beck supporters into any region is exactly cancelled by the efflux of disaffected parties.

10 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:30:25pm

re: #5 wrenchwench

Is that about the same as the number of former lizards who flounced over criticism of Beck?

Quite possible, but if you eliminate the sock puppets, the number may be far lower.

11 rick_too  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:32:47pm

re: #8 myself

I should clarify that my attempt to examine Beck's show in a dispassionate manner should not be interpreted as support for same. I detest his product for the damage it does to principled political discussion.

12 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:34:07pm

OT - 10 Worst Sexy Halloween Costumes on 2009:

[Link: www.washingtoncitypaper.com...]

13 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:34:40pm

re: #8 rick_too

[snip]

Does Fox want to become a populist / socially conservative outlet? That's the direction they're headed.

[snip]

Yea, and they got there about 10 years ago. Were you out of the country?

14 shiplord kirel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:35:14pm

The boycotters are all big name advertisers. This means only that second stringers who normally could not afford this slot will be able to move in and run their commercials at a discount.
Besides the gold bugs who advertise with Beck now, this include various get-rich schemes, religious pseudo-PSAs, second echelon consumer products and, obviously, various health supplements and related schemes.
A drop in revenue does not necessarily mean the show is operating at a loss for Murdoch. As long as he is making money at all, I think Beck will stay on.

15 The Curmudgeon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:35:28pm

I know that Ken Ham's Creation Museum advertises on Fox. I see that they haven't pulled out.

16 shiplord kirel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:36:41pm

re: #15 The Curmudgeon

I know that Ken Ham's Creation Museum advertises on Fox. I see that they haven't pulled out.

A perfect if somewhat extreme example of what I was referring to in #14. Cranks rush in where corporations fear to tread.

17 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:37:18pm

re: #14 shiplord kirel

The boycotters are all big name advertisers. This means only that second stringers who normally could not afford this slot will be able to move in and run their commercials at a discount.
Besides the gold bugs who advertise with Beck now, this include various get-rich schemes, religious pseudo-PSAs, second echelon consumer products and, obviously, various health supplements and related schemes.
A drop in revenue does not necessarily mean the show is operating at a loss for Murdoch. As long as he is making money at all, I think Beck will stay on.

Very good point. Even if it does operate at a loss, Fox has to consider how much "lead in" and "follow on" viewers they get.

Just like retail has "loss leaders" which the actually loose money on in order to attract business.

It works.

18 Bob Dillon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:38:19pm

re: #14 shiplord kirel

Plus - while in the check-out line at the supermarket ... who is on the latest cover of Time with their tongue sticking out? Go figure.

19 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:38:47pm

re: #8 rick_too

Whether that's a business decision - or one made by Rupert Murdoch's personal goals - is a matter open to conjecture.

Considering Murdoch endorsed Obama, I think it's strictly business. I think ideology-wise, they've decided upon right-wing populism because it's easily marketed (again- money). They've found a niche, and they'll milk it for all it's worth while it still brings in the money. Once a different niche has more profit potential, then we'll see a change.

20 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:39:28pm

re: #15 The Curmudgeon

I know that Ken Ham's Creation Museum advertises on Fox. I see that they haven't pulled out.

Gee, I wonder why?
/

21 Blizard  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:39:46pm

re: #14 shiplord kirel


suppositories

22 The Curmudgeon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:41:02pm

re: #17 Walter L. Newton

Very good point. Even if it does operate at a loss, Fox has to consider how much "lead in" and "follow on" viewers they get.

He builds viewership for the network, and he makes appearances on other shows, like O'Reilly. They won't let him go.

23 Cato the Elder  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:42:09pm

I happen to know for a fact that this is all a plot by ZOMGitsCriss. The Romanian Atheist Mafia is run from her bedroom, and she's comin' after ya, Glenn. And not in a good way.

24 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:42:17pm

re: #22 The Curmudgeon

He builds viewership for the network, and he makes appearances on other shows, like O'Reilly. They won't let him go.

Murdock has enough money to prop up Beck as a "loss leader." And that's all that counts.

25 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:43:14pm

Some big money names in the newly departed advertisers.

26 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:43:14pm

Fox News is a business, they don't care about the conservative movement (I'm talking Goldwater, people).

Fox cares about the bottom line- the almighty dollar.

They are not your friend. Never were.

27 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:43:37pm

re: #24 Walter L. Newton

Murdock has enough money to prop up Beck as a "loss leader." And that's all that counts.

Murdock's money isn't infinite though. It may be a matter of how much of a loss he is willing to take on Beck.

28 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:44:18pm

So does this mean that 'corporations' are good guys now according to the left?

29 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:45:14pm

re: #28 Oh no...Sand People!

So does this mean that 'corporations' are good guys now according to the left?

LOL! Puts them in a bind, doesn't it?

30 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:45:29pm

re: #26 Sharmuta

Fox News is a business, they don't care about the conservative movement (I'm talking Goldwater, people).

Fox cares about the bottom line- the almighty dollar.

They are not your friend. Never were.

This is not a 'Beck' defense, but I would throw in the rest of the 'msm' as well.

31 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:46:16pm

re: #25 Floral Giraffe

Some big money names in the newly departed advertisers.

And it's not going to make any difference. Murdock could keep Beck on the air for as long as he wants just to be smug about it all. We are talking about one of the largest media outlets in the world.

I don't like Beck, I don't watch Fox anymore and I don't even use Fox's website anymore, but the bottom line still remains, and there is not amount of carping that we can do (or Color of Change) can do to effect anything if Murdock want's to stand pat.

32 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:47:42pm

re: #27 Honorary Yooper

Murdock's money isn't infinite though. It may be a matter of how much of a loss he is willing to take on Beck.

Beck is petty cash in the Murdoch Empire.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

33 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:48:01pm

re: #31 Walter L. Newton

I think if the show were losing money, it would get canned.
Regardless of the ideology.

34 rick_too  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:48:03pm

re: #13 Walter L. Newton

Heh. Out of the country, no.
But it's my subjective impression that Fox was not this strident or this ignorant during the Bush Admin. And they could easily move further in this direction in the future, if they desired: firing Shep Smith, for example.

35 Takeshi6400  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:48:12pm

Why is a campaign by a bunch of leftist race baiters being supported? I don't watch Beck because I find him annoying, but if they are boycotting him solely for accusing Obama of being a racist, when are they going to launch similar campaigns against the numerous people on the left who use similar accusations on a regular basis?

From their website. "Hurricane Katrina made it clear that our lack of a political voice has life-and-death consequences. With no one to speak for them, hundreds of thousands of people—largely Black, poor, and elderly—were left behind to die."
They're playing the same race card as Beck.

36 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:49:05pm

re: #20 Honorary Yooper

Gee, I wonder why?
/

He wants Beck to be an exhibit?

37 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:49:10pm

re: #33 Floral Giraffe

I think if the show were losing money, it would get canned.
Regardless of the ideology.

I'll repeat myself. Beck is petty cash to Murdoch... look at his media empire...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

38 Cato the Elder  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:49:20pm

re: #31 Walter L. Newton

And it's not going to make any difference. Murdock could keep Beck on the air for as long as he wants just to be smug about it all. We are talking about one of the largest media outlets in the world.

I don't like Beck, I don't watch Fox anymore and I don't even use Fox's website anymore, but the bottom line still remains, and there is not amount of carping that we can do (or Color of Change) can do to effect anything if Murdock want's to stand pat.

Well, and the point is they're none of them pulling their ads from Fox per se, at least not that I've read. They're forbidding their ads from appearing on Beck's show. Which means Fox just substitutes non-boycotting companies when Glenn is on the air, and continues to collect big revenues from Guinness et al. on other shows.

It's a statement, but it's not going to force anybody's hand.

39 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:49:34pm

re: #30 Oh no...Sand People!

This is not a 'Beck' defense, but I would throw in the rest of the 'msm' as well.

It really interesting how the msm is viewed so sceptically by folks on the right, but when it comes to Fox News, suddenly the right has a blind spot to media manipulations, mostly due to partisanship, imo.

40 [deleted]  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:50:00pm
41 Bagua  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:50:08pm

Ok, so the advertisers are out of Beck, do they have any Heineken left?

42 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:50:21pm

Well, it's about time the ShamWow can now afford to be moved to a prime time slot as opposed to forcing me to stay up to 3 AM to watch the informercial...

Maybe I can get some Bob Barefoot Coral Calcium while I'm watching... or some 'colon blow cleanser' by the Klee Irwin guy...or whatever it's called...

Perhaps that's the goal!? Equal advertising opportunities for ALL! Come out of the early morning darkness my pretties a glorious daylight world awaits!

/Full disclosure...I LOVE infomercials...

43 Cato the Elder  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:50:28pm

re: #39 Sharmuta

It really interesting how the msm is viewed so sceptically by folks on the right, but when it comes to Fox News, suddenly the right has a blind spot to media manipulations, mostly due to partisanship, imo.

What's really funny is how long certain people insisted that Fox was not part of the "MSM"...

44 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:50:48pm

re: #35 Takeshi6400

when are they going to launch similar campaigns against the numerous people on the left who use similar accusations on a regular basis?

Maybe you should start your own bunch of leftist race baiters and launch the campaign you think should be launched.

45 DesertCynic  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:51:20pm

Was I just allowed to register or am I dreaming?

46 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:51:48pm

re: #38 Cato the Elder

Well, and the point is they're none of them pulling their ads from Fox per se, at least not that I've read. They're forbidding their ads from appearing on Beck's show. Which means Fox just substitutes non-boycotting companies when Glenn is on the air, and continues to collect big revenues from Guinness et al. on other shows.

It's a statement, but it's not going to force anybody's hand.

Is it a statement if it falls on deaf ears?

47 Baier  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:52:04pm

Pretty soon it'll be an hour of the clown with a few breaks for Snuggie and SlapChop.

48 Political Atheist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:52:08pm

Is anyone watching to see who, if anyone drops Olbermann, or the rest of the rant and rave on air personalities? We could do with far fewer of them easily enough.

49 rick_too  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:52:13pm

re: #45 DesertCynic

Welcome.

50 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:52:14pm

re: #45 DesertCynic

Was I just allowed to register or am I dreaming?

Stop taking acid.
/

51 simoom  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:52:35pm

OT - GOP to FCC: analysis first, then net neutrality rules—maybe

52 DesertCynic  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:53:57pm

re: #49 rick_too

re: #50 Cannadian Club Akbar

Thanks.

Must be a flashback. \

53 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:55:04pm

We have allies out there, apparently. I came across this post from a GoV Watch.

Wahhh! Wahhh! They believed Charles Johnson, not me!

He commends Charles while condeming Bodissey, and ends with this comment,

P.S. Note to Baron: I have another explanation for the political path taken by Charles Johnson during the past two years. Perhaps, dear Baron, he remains true to his principles, and it is the rest of the right-wing blogosphere that has joined you off the political deep end with raging Obamahatred, calling up the dark specters of racism and fascism in its stead.

Other people are standing up and noticing what is going on. Thank you Charles, for being consistent while others go off the deep end.

54 Blizard  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:55:15pm

re: #45 DesertCynic

Grab a Guinness and cozy up to the fire!

55 Takeshi6400  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:55:47pm

re: #44 wrenchwench

Maybe I just won't support campaigns organized by racists just because I don't like the target. The enemy of my enemy isn't always my friend.

56 Cato the Elder  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:56:21pm

re: #46 Walter L. Newton

Is it a statement if it falls on deaf ears?

It's making news, isn't it?

57 The Curmudgeon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:56:36pm

re: #40 MikeySDCA

Are you sure that they advertise on Fox rather than your local cable provider?

Yes. Creation Museum to be Advertised on Fox News.

58 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:57:03pm

re: #35 Takeshi6400

Why is a campaign by a bunch of leftist race baiters being supported?

Please show me where I "supported" anything.

Reading comprehension is your friend.

59 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:57:30pm

re: #53 Honorary Yooper

We have allies out there, apparently. I came across this post from a GoV Watch.

Wahhh! Wahhh! They believed Charles Johnson, not me!

He commends Charles while condeming Bodissey, and ends with this comment,

Other people are standing up and noticing what is going on. Thank you Charles, for being consistent while others go off the deep end.

Come on out...the waters..fi*glug* *glug*...*glug*...*silence*...

60 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:57:43pm

re: #56 Cato the Elder

It's making news, isn't it?

Huh... I can't hear you?

61 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:57:43pm

re: #57 The Curmudgeon

Yes. Creation Museum to be Advertised on Fox News.

Yet another reason to avoid Fox News. I've been perfroming my own boycott by changing the channel.

62 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 12:59:01pm

OK. This is funny in my head. If Kool Aid advertised on Beck, he would say that the left is drinking it. And vise versa. I need a hobby.
/

63 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:00:13pm

re: #58 Charles

Please show me where I "supported" anything.

Reading comprehension is your friend.

Quick man hide your "Color of Change" sham-wow before someone sees it!

64 Takeshi6400  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:00:21pm

re: #58 Charles

When did I say that you specifically supported this campaign? I was referring to the support that seems to exist among some posters here. Apparently read comprehension isn't your friend.

65 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:00:22pm

re: #57 The Curmudgeon

Yes. Creation Museum to be Advertised on Fox News.

That's what makes this such a wonderful country, something for everyone if they want it.

66 iceweasel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:00:58pm

The boycott has gone global-- and it's not merely affecting Beck's show.

Waitrose has pulled all its Fox ads in the UK

Big news. Waitrose is gigantic.

67 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:01:29pm

re: #64 Takeshi6400

Suddenly I have an image of Takashi6400 as a football being held for a place kick...

68 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:01:30pm

re: #66 iceweasel

The boycott has gone global-- and it's not merely affecting Beck's show.

Waitrose has pulled all its Fox ads in the UK

Big news. Waitrose is gigantic.

Doesn't matter. Murdoch is bigger.

69 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:02:54pm

re: #67 Locker

Suddenly I have an image of Takashi6400 as a football being held for a place kick...

Joined in 2007, and only seven posts? That's a sock puppet.

70 The Curmudgeon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:03:12pm

re: #65 Walter L. Newton

That's what makes this such a wonderful country, something for everyone if they want it.

Beck is certainly quirky, and he's whacked on creationism, but whatcha gonna do -- watch Katie Couric?

71 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:03:19pm

re: #64 Takeshi6400

When did I say that you specifically supported this campaign? I was referring to the support that seems to exist among some posters here. Apparently read comprehension isn't your friend.

Dude, the last thing you want to do on any blog is irritate the host, even if you disagree with him, or wish to point out flaws. You've just gone ahead and done that.

72 DesertCynic  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:03:26pm

Rats, I have to return to work. But it feels like something might be in the air soon.

73 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:04:12pm

re: #66 iceweasel

The boycott has gone global-- and it's not merely affecting Beck's show.

Waitrose has pulled all its Fox ads in the UK

Big news. Waitrose is gigantic.

What the hell is Waitrose? Never head of them.

74 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:04:16pm

re: #70 The Curmudgeon

Beck is certainly quirky, and he's whacked on creationism, but whatcha gonna do -- watch Katie Couric?

No. I don't watch any TV news at all.

75 Haole  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:04:18pm

Blue 38, Blue 38, Hut, hut, hike

76 iceweasel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:04:38pm

re: #68 Walter L. Newton

Doesn't matter. Murdoch is bigger.

Yeah, but what's interesting is that the Waitrose chain yanked all its Fox ads, not merely ones on Beck's show, and they did it as a result of consumer complaints-- and all their customers are in the UK.

So the boycott and the customer complaints aren't merely coming from a few frothing US libs. This probably isn't going to seem huge to people in the US, but Waitrose is like--- I don't know -- I guess Trader Joe's in the US. But bigger.

77 iceweasel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:05:50pm

re: #73 Honorary Yooper

What the hell is Waitrose? Never head of them.

UK. Kinda like WholeFoods/Trader Joe's in terms of what their stores are like, but much bigger as a corporation AFAIK.

78 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:06:15pm

re: #76 iceweasel

Yeah, but what's interesting is that the Waitrose chain yanked all its Fox ads, not merely ones on Beck's show, and they did it as a result of consumer complaints-- and all their customers are in the UK.

So the boycott and the customer complaints aren't merely coming from a few frothing US libs. This probably isn't going to seem huge to people in the US, but Waitrose is like--- I don't know -- I guess Trader Joe's in the US. But bigger.

Trader Joe's is small potatoes in the US, very small potatoes. If you want a big supermarket chain, try Safeway (Dominick's, Randall's, Von's, etc), Supervalu (Jewel, Acme, Cub Foods, etc), or even Wal-Mart.

79 Gang of One  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:07:19pm

My pop thinks Beck "Speaks Trvth 2 Power®" and my mom thinks he's the voice of concerned America.
/I'm too tired to fight them.
//sigh ...

80 Cato the Elder  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:07:50pm

re: #64 Takeshi6400

When did I say that you specifically supported this campaign? I was referring to the support that seems to exist among some posters here. Apparently read comprehension isn't your friend.

Enjoy your half-life.

81 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:07:54pm

I hope, if Wal-Mart ever runs ads with Beck, they pull them...just so all the lefties can then go there and shop.

But my real reason is so they can be photographed in their true element and placed on [Link: www.peopleofwalmart.com...] .

2 birds with 1 stone. It would be hypocrisy greatness!

82 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:08:12pm

re: #35 Takeshi6400

Why is a campaign by a bunch of leftist race baiters being supported? I don't watch Beck because I find him annoying, but if they are boycotting him solely for accusing Obama of being a racist, when are they going to launch similar campaigns against the numerous people on the left who use similar accusations on a regular basis?

From their website. "Hurricane Katrina made it clear that our lack of a political voice has life-and-death consequences. With no one to speak for them, hundreds of thousands of people—largely Black, poor, and elderly—were left behind to die."
They're playing the same race card as Beck.

You're conflating a media voice with a political voice. Beck has the right to free speech, but he doesn't have a right to advertisers. It is within the right of these various companies to withhold their money from his show. That's how a free speech society works.

On the other hand, you're example illustrates a political voice being pointed out by Color of Change concerning the Katrina aftermath. No one has the right to disenfranchise another American's right to petition the government for grievances. In other words- you're comparing apples to oranges.

83 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:08:38pm

re: #76 iceweasel

Yeah, but what's interesting is that the Waitrose chain yanked all its Fox ads, not merely ones on Beck's show, and they did it as a result of consumer complaints-- and all their customers are in the UK.

So the boycott and the customer complaints aren't merely coming from a few frothing US libs. This probably isn't going to seem huge to people in the US, but Waitrose is like--- I don't know -- I guess Trader Joe's in the US. But bigger.

In my opinion, it still doesn't matter. I suspect you saw my post above, Murdoch is BIG, bigger than almost all of them. If he wants, he can keep Beck on just to upset people, it's petty cash to him. Look at his holdings...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I think use "down here" sometimes loose track of how large and multinational some of these people are, and how little some of these efforts really amount to, in the over all world wide scheme of things.

I'm not suggesting that something can't break at some point, but right now, I see Beck as a "loss leader," meaning he attracts attention to Fox and Murdoch, which is as important if not more important to Murdoch than the cost of producing 5 hours of TV a week.

84 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:08:39pm

re: #79 Gang of One

My pop thinks Beck "Speaks Trvth 2 Power®" and my mom thinks he's the voice of concerned America.
/I'm too tired to fight them.
//sigh ...

Tell them you have a heroin addiction over the phone, then hang up.
//

85 bosforus  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:08:41pm

re: #64 Takeshi6400

When did I say that you specifically supported this campaign? I was referring to the support that seems to exist among some posters here. Apparently read comprehension isn't your friend.

What's "read comprehension"?

86 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:09:17pm

Drive by post.

On Topic - Glenn Beck is an idiot and continues to be.

Off Topic - Value Added Taxes are not free. They are regressive. They will also knock many low margin businesses out of business. They are also costly to administer. Once Government's have them they can't get rid of them - they employ too many administrators and generate too much revenue (even though they see lower income taxes as a result).

87 katemaclaren  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:09:19pm

Wow. Who knew a program could ATTRACT so many advertisers. I wonder what the total is? I'm amazed. They must have all put in about a buck. How could they all advertise on the show--it surely isn't that long! WTF? However, it seems to me, that if the viewer numbers keep going up, sooner or later, the advertisers will be back. It's all about the do re mi--that is do as in dough.

88 Chip Designer  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:09:27pm

OT - but a good quote on Obama's presentation to the IOC.

"Brazil Beats Obama in 2016 Olympics"

That is how we mistakenly read the headline in the Financial Times on Saturday. (We wondered what event he was competing in. It actually said "Brazil beats Obama to the 2016 Olympics".) The President is taking a lot of heat for going all that way for a seven-minute pitch and then coming away unsuccessful. We don t see it that way at all.

Despite the hyperventilating U.S. media, Chicago was clearly a long shot as would be any American city. Our quarterback took the field to personally throw the Hail Mary pass with four seconds left in the game. It didn't connect — so what? Would we have felt better if he took a knee and let the clock run out?

We are pleased that the President has such an intense desire to win no matter what the odds. We hope that he will bring that same intensity to other areas of international relations.

— Jim Anderson, President, SVB Analytics

89 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:10:14pm

re: #83 Walter L. Newton

In my opinion, it still doesn't matter. I suspect you saw my post above, Murdoch is BIG, bigger than almost all of them. If he wants, he can keep Beck on just to upset people, it's petty cash to him. Look at his holdings...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I think use "down here" sometimes loose track of how large and multinational some of these people are, and how little some of these efforts really amount to, in the over all world wide scheme of things.

I'm not suggesting that something can't break at some point, but right now, I see Beck as a "loss leader," meaning he attracts attention to Fox and Murdoch, which is as important if not more important to Murdoch than the cost of producing 5 hours of TV a week.

Agreed. I really don't think Murdoch gives a fork... at all.

90 katemaclaren  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:10:25pm

re: #83 Walter L. Newton

I agree with you, Walt.

91 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:10:28pm

re: #86 karmic_inquisitor

Drive by post.

On Topic - Glenn Beck is an idiot and continues to be.

Off Topic - Value Added Taxes are not free. They are regressive. They will also knock many low margin businesses out of business. They are also costly to administer. Once Government's have them they can't get rid of them - they employ too many administrators and generate too much revenue (even though they see lower income taxes as a result).

That's the goal and objective with the current and most pressing war on capitalism.

92 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:10:54pm

re: #81 Oh no...Sand People!

I hope, if Wal-Mart ever runs ads with Beck, they pull them...just so all the lefties can then go there and shop.

But my real reason is so they can be photographed in their true element and placed on [Link:

93 Gang of One  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:11:14pm

re: #80 Cato the Elder

Enjoy your half-life.

Does that not mean he has a sort of asymptotic life expectancy? There will always be a half of something ...

94 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:11:23pm

re: #92 Honorary Yooper

Exactly!

/lol

95 katemaclaren  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:11:46pm

re: #60 Walter L. Newton


Walt, you are so funny! Thanks for the laugh of the day. It reminds me of the two chocolate Easter bunnies--one has his tail bitten off, the other an ear. The one says, "My butt hurts," and the other says, "What? I can't hear you."

96 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:12:09pm

re: #15 The Curmudgeon

I know that Ken Ham's Creation Museum advertises on Fox. I see that they haven't pulled out.

The Gold pimps will stay too, they like Glen and anyone else who creates paranoia.

97 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:12:21pm

Ah crap. #92 showed up weird for some reason (I suspect a missing tag somewhere).

Meant to answer to #81 that Wal-Mart dropping advertising on Fox News and even other News Corp channels would be big news. Very fricking big news.

98 Gang of One  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:12:26pm

re: #84 Cannadian Club Akbar

Tell them you have a heroin addiction over the phone, then hang up.
//

Now that was funny!

99 iceweasel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:12:52pm

re: #78 Honorary Yooper

Trader Joe's is small potatoes in the US, very small potatoes. If you want a big supermarket chain, try Safeway (Dominick's, Randall's, Von's, etc), Supervalu (Jewel, Acme, Cub Foods, etc), or even Wal-Mart.

Yeah, i know, I was describing their stores in terms of product there.

100 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:14:00pm

Later all.

101 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:14:10pm

re: #96 Thanos

The Gold pimps will stay too, they like Glen and anyone else who creates paranoia.

With gold settling today on Comex at just under $1,040 an ounce, pimping is a good business.

102 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:14:18pm

re: #96 Thanos

The Gold pimps will stay too, they like Glen and anyone else who creates paranoia.

Geeze. I hate the gold pimps. I cannot say I am fond of anyone who goes around creating an environment of paranoia and fear.

103 iceweasel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:14:19pm

re: #83 Walter L. Newton

Yes, I updinged your post about the loss leader stuff. I think you're right about that.

104 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:14:32pm

re: #101 John Neverbend

Pimping is my business... and business is good!

105 katemaclaren  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:15:14pm

hmmm. So why does the reality of money get me a down ding? I am shocked at the number of advertisers--don't you think that's rather a lot!!! ...and don't you think, since they are all about making money, they will be back on board? What did I say that was worth a knock on the head?

106 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:15:57pm

re: #104 Locker

Pimping is my business... and business is good!

Killing is my buisness and buisness is good.
/Megadeath
//Hope I got that right

107 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:16:21pm

re: #105 katemaclaren

hmmm. So why does the reality of money get me a down ding? I am shocked at the number of advertisers--don't you think that's rather a lot!!! ...and don't you think, since they are all about making money, they will be back on board? What did I say that was worth a knock on the head?

Don't sweat the down dings man, as long as you are operating inside the lines with regard to site rules. Happens to everyone.

108 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:16:28pm

re: #105 katemaclaren

What did I say that was worth a knock on the head?

A knock on the head? Please- it's a mouse click, get a tougher skin.

109 katemaclaren  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:16:37pm

re: #103 iceweasel

I agree, too. It's just quite evident that rattling cages is part of Murdoch's schtick. By the way Roger Ailes met with Axelrod. I'd like to have been a fly on that wall.

110 Blizard  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:16:45pm

re: #104 Locker

Same here. Pimping is pretty darn good in these parts.

111 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:16:56pm

re: #106 Cannadian Club Akbar

You absolutely got it right. Back in my angry youth I was a considerable Mustaine fan.

112 katemaclaren  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:17:13pm

re: #108 Sharmuta

Mouse click = paper cut. OUCH!!!

113 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:17:17pm

re: #91 Oh no...Sand People!

That's the goal and objective with the current and most pressing war on capitalism.

Problem with the VAT is that it is a regressive tax - it hits low income folks as a percentage of income far worse than high income folks. If you are in a consumer economy and trying to get it to recover the last thing you want to do is kill off discretionary spending by those at the base of the income ladder.

If they relabeled it "Fair Tax" then the Progressives would be attacking it.

114 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:17:27pm

re: #110 Blizard

Same here. Pimping is pretty darn good in these parts.

I thought it was hard out there for a pimp. At least that's what that song says.

115 katemaclaren  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:18:07pm

re: #107 Locker

...Just put a band aid on it. ;-)

116 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:18:18pm

re: #104 Locker

Pimping is my business... and business is good!

in bed

or, maybe in a car alley, or cheap hotel

117 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:18:21pm

Wasn't there a pimp on Mod Squad?

118 Irenicum  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:18:24pm

re: #53 Honorary Yooper

Very cool!

119 Gang of One  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:18:31pm

re: #84 Cannadian Club Akbar

Tell them you have a heroin addiction over the phone, then hang up.
//

I just called my dad and told him I'm a junkie. He wants us to go on Oprah, Dr. Phil and Jerry Springer.
///

120 The Curmudgeon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:18:35pm

I note that Viagra isn't on the boycott list. I assume they advertise on Fox; I see their ads everywhere.

121 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:18:59pm

Beck's ratings are good when compared to other shows on FNC.

When compared to other shows on other networks? Not so good at all.

122 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:19:14pm

re: #114 Mad Al-Jaffee

I thought it was hard out there for a pimp. At least that's what that song says.

Hustle & Flow baby... great soundtrack.

123 katemaclaren  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:19:32pm

re: #120 The Curmudgeon

I note that Viagra isn't on the boycott list. I assume they advertise on Fox; I see their ads everywhere.

They have to keep "up" appearances!

124 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:19:44pm

re: #101 John Neverbend

With gold settling today on Comex at just under $1,040 an ounce, pimping is a good business.

It won't be forever. I suspect if you buy now that you are going in at the top of the market...

If you reel back the years to Clinton's terms you will see where gold is likely to go longer term. It plateaued during that period, and might do so again. In the end it's just another commodity, and like all commodities it will go down in terms of real dollars over time. (See the famous Jeremy Rifkin bet) Once we get into next year post HC and Cap and Trade debates, whether those go good or ill, a lot of uncertainty will be removed. Same goes for Iran. I don't expect that tense situation to last another four years (I could be wrong) but I'm cautiously optimistic right now.

125 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:19:46pm

re: #120 The Curmudgeon

I note that Viagra isn't on the boycott list. I assume they advertise on Fox; I see their ads everywhere.

You mean those ads where a bunch of amateur musicians sit around in a barn playing guitars and singing about their boners?

126 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:19:49pm

re: #120 The Curmudgeon

I note that Viagra isn't on the boycott list. I assume they advertise on Fox; I see their ads everywhere.

LOL! I was thinking that earlier- we'll know it's serious when the erectile disfunction ads get pulled. ;)

127 Blizard  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:19:52pm

re: #106 Cannadian Club Akbar

Megadeth. Sweet.

128 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:20:05pm

re: #89 Locker

re: #103 iceweasel

Ok, what's the deal... you two setting me up for something :)
//

129 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:20:33pm

re: #124 Thanos

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

130 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:21:01pm

re: #120 The Curmudgeon

I note that Viagra isn't on the boycott list. I assume they advertise on Fox; I see their ads everywhere.

Depends probably won't pull out either, they kinda go with Glen's demographic. (older pissed off people)

131 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:21:14pm

re: #88 Chip Designer

Since we're playing football metaphors in re: Obama's speech, maybe the problem with the speech stems not from the Hail Mary nature of the speech, but rather a misguided Statue of Liberty play.

132 KingKenrod  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:21:24pm

re: #106 Cannadian Club Akbar

Killing is my buisness and buisness is good.
/Megadeath
//Hope I got that right

It's "Megadeth". Heavy metal band names almost always require misspelling.

I was surprised to see them alive and well on Fallon the other night. Last I heard Dave Mustaine had serious nerve damage and couldn't play.

133 The Curmudgeon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:21:26pm

re: #125 Charles

You mean those ads where a bunch of amateur musicians sit around in a barn playing guitars and singing about their boners?

It's a happy little tune.

134 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:21:33pm

re: #125 Charles

Well I guess if a person hasn't had one in quite a while, they might be moved to song.

135 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:21:41pm

re: #120 The Curmudgeon

I note that Viagra isn't on the boycott list. I assume they advertise on Fox; I see their ads everywhere.

Yes, it seems to pop up everywhere.

136 iceweasel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:21:45pm

re: #128 Walter L. Newton

re: #103 iceweasel

Ok, what's the deal... you two setting me up for something :)
//

Just showin' you some love, baby! :) Kick you in the morning, kiss you in the afternoon!

Youtube Video
137 SpaceJesus  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:21:48pm

How Nonsense Sharpens the Intellect, or how spacejesus got so smart

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

138 Cato the Elder  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:22:09pm

re: #93 Gang of One

Does that not mean he has a sort of asymptotic life expectancy? There will always be a half of something ...

Zeno's paradox.

It's a paradox because it's only half true.

139 simoom  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:22:14pm

I'm sure everyone's seen this (it's the mock execution by fire as a metaphor for the Obama administration clip):

Youtube Video

I expected at the time for there to be some degree of backlash about that kind of content airing mid-afternoon, but I'm definitely OK with advertisers pulling their ads instead due to later nuttiness.

140 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:22:42pm

re: #135 MandyManners

Yes, it seems to pop up everywhere.

That must have been really hard for you to come up with.

141 katemaclaren  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:22:50pm

re: #125 Charles

My little boy was singing that ditty--I had to break out the Elvis movie to teach him the right words!

142 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:22:52pm

re: #123 katemaclaren

They have to keep "up" appearances!

They no longer face stiff competition from the other ads.

143 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:23:04pm

re: #137 spacejesus

How Nonsense Sharpens the Intellect, or how spacejesus got so smart

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

I thought you were gonna say bourbon.

144 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:23:09pm

re: #128 Walter L. Newton

re: #103 iceweasel

Ok, what's the deal... you two setting me up for something :)
//

Remember earlier when the bong re-education camp for conservatives was mentioned? Someone nameless person bought you a gift certificate. Do you prefer Yellowstone or perhaps the Appalachian National Scenic Trail is more to your liking...

Bongs Ho!

145 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:23:28pm

Viva, Viagra!


Youtube Video
146 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:24:11pm

re: #142 John Neverbend

They no longer face stiff competition from the other ads.

Not even from Oscar Meyer Weiners?

147 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:24:17pm

re: #6 Dante41

Whoa. Toyota pulled out? That's big.

Clorox and Kraft are also on the list. That's a lot of advertising money.

148 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:24:39pm

re: #140 Mad Al-Jaffee

That must have been really hard for you to come up with.

It just kinda' grew on me.

149 Gang of One  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:24:45pm

re: #145 MandyManners

Viva, Viagra!

[Video]

Viagra Falls ... oxymoron?

150 SpaceJesus  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:25:18pm

re: #143 Cannadian Club Akbar

I thought you were gonna say bourbon.

bourbon does that too, you're right. i smell a new study. it smells oak-ie

151 Blizard  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:25:30pm

re: #132 KingKenrod

Beat you to it.

I'm starting to see who's in the same age group.

Personally, I'm a Maiden fan. Great lyrics, and Bruce Dickenson was sober the whole time IIRC.

152 Gang of One  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:26:05pm

re: #87 katemaclaren

Wow. Who knew a program could ATTRACT so many advertisers. I wonder what the total is? I'm amazed. They must have all put in about a buck. How could they all advertise on the show--it surely isn't that long! WTF? However, it seems to me, that if the viewer numbers keep going up, sooner or later, the advertisers will be back. It's all about the do re mi--that is do as in dough.


Kate, think of it as a head biff from Leroy Jethro Gibbs. You're still on the team ...

153 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:26:11pm

re: #150 spacejesus

bourbon does that too, you're right. i smell a new study. it smells oak-ie

You just get the grant. I'll bring tacos.

154 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:26:24pm

re: #149 Gang of One

Viagra Falls ... oxymoron?

Better have a hard barrel to go over those falls.

155 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:26:29pm

re: #144 Locker

Remember earlier when the bong re-education camp for conservatives was mentioned? Someone nameless person bought you a gift certificate. Do you prefer Yellowstone or perhaps the Appalachian National Scenic Trail is more to your liking...

Bongs Ho!

I have more open space and trails within spitting distance to last me a lifetime... but thanks for the offer. And the parks department in Colorado have been finding pot farms on state park land, so I don't need any out of state bongs, but thanks for the offer.

[Link: www.co.jefferson.co.us...]

156 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:26:54pm

re: #151 Blizard

Beat you to it.

I'm starting to see who's in the same age group.

Personally, I'm a Maiden fan. Great lyrics, and Bruce Dickenson was sober the whole time IIRC.

Seen Maiden 3 times.

157 katemaclaren  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:26:58pm

re: #142 John Neverbend

LOL !
Oh K Y can't we all grow as members of ...

158 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:27:30pm

re: #155 Walter L. Newton

I have more open space and trails within spitting distance to last me a lifetime... but thanks for the offer. And the parks department in Colorado have been finding pot farms on state park land, so I don't need any out of state bongs, but thanks for the offer.

[Link: www.co.jefferson.co.us...]

I'm repeating myself, I'm repeating myself,...

159 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:27:33pm

re: #64 Takeshi6400

Apparently read comprehension isn't your friend.

Hahahaha!

Your petards seem to have a factory flaw, exercise great caution when using them.

160 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:27:34pm

re: #157 katemaclaren

LOL !
Oh K Y can't we all grow as members of ...

I like how you just slipped that one in.

161 katemaclaren  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:27:49pm

re: #145 MandyManners

Thanks Mandy, I needed some stimulation!

162 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:27:56pm

re: #73 Honorary Yooper

What the hell is Waitrose? Never head of them.

Grocery store chain. Very big.

163 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:28:00pm

Charles,

May we know the results of the most recent opening of the registration?

164 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:28:08pm

re: #144 Locker

Remember earlier when the bong re-education camp for conservatives was mentioned? Someone nameless person bought you a gift certificate. Do you prefer Yellowstone or perhaps the Appalachian National Scenic Trail is more to your liking...

Bongs Ho!

Bong Camp?

165 Gang of One  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:28:21pm

re: #150 spacejesus

bourbon does that too, you're right. i smell a new study. it smells oak-ie

What's yer take on Islay single malts? Kindy smok-ie, neh?

166 Irenicum  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:28:51pm

re: #117 Cannadian Club Akbar

Starsky and Hutch. Papa Bear!

167 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:29:09pm

re: #165 Gang of One

What's yer take on Islay single malts? Kindy smok-ie, neh?

Oh for peat's sake!

168 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:29:23pm

re: #161 katemaclaren

Thanks Mandy, I needed some stimulation!

Coffee always perks me up.

169 Pianobuff  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:29:47pm

re: #111 Locker

You absolutely got it right. Back in my angry youth I was a considerable Mustaine fan.

I was surprised to see that Mustaine appears on Alex Jones.

170 Gang of One  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:29:54pm

re: #167 Mad Al-Jaffee

Oh for peat's sake!

Excellent.

171 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:30:05pm

Sex and booze and heavy metal. I love this thread.

172 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:30:17pm

re: #164 Ben Hur

Bong Camp?

Bong Recreational Area

173 Charles Johnson  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:30:19pm

Cognitive dissonance alert!

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

174 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:30:55pm

re: #157 katemaclaren

LOL !
Oh K Y can't we all grow as members of ...

I'm pulling out of this thread.

175 katemaclaren  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:31:01pm

re: #168 MandyManners

Mandy, you are very quick-witted! Now, I gotta blow...
(Gotta teach a class in an hour!) Bye for now..

176 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:31:30pm

re: #173 Charles

Cognitive dissonance alert!

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

OMG. Is that a hat tip?

177 The Curmudgeon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:31:50pm

If this thread lasts for more than four hours ...

178 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:32:06pm

re: #177 The Curmudgeon

If this thread lasts for more than four hours ...

I'll get fired for sure.

179 Blizard  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:32:11pm

re: #171 Cannadian Club Akbar

Sex and booze and heavy metal. I love this thread.

And pot farms in CO.

Can you believe it? I was just hiking in Golden Gate Cayon SP not too long before the last bust.

180 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:32:25pm

re: #175 katemaclaren

Mandy, you are very quick-witted! Now, I gotta blow...
(Gotta teach a class in an hour!) Bye for now..

Don't be too hard on your students!

181 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:32:43pm

re: #177 The Curmudgeon

If this thread lasts for more than four hours ...

I can see all us are enjoying these puns.

182 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:32:54pm

re: #179 Blizard

And pot farms in CO.

Can you believe it? I was just hiking in Golden Gate Cayon SP not too long before the last bust.

Don't say that in front of Ben Hur.

183 Blizard  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:33:41pm

re: #182 Cannadian Club Akbar

/ducks and runs

184 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:34:14pm

re: #183 Blizard

/ducks and runs

/gooses and walks

185 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:34:29pm

re: #175 katemaclaren

Mandy, you are very quick-witted! Now, I gotta blow...
(Gotta teach a class in an hour!) Bye for now..

hehe! she said "blow"

186 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:34:35pm

re: #173 Charles

Cognitive dissonance alert!

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

I love this point...

3) Not Dumbed Down: not dumbing down the reading level, or diluting the intellectual force and logic of Christianity; the NIV is written at only the 7th grade level[3]

Yet everything I read yesterday when this came up was totally diluting intellectual force, since they are ready to throw out almost 2000 years of scientific textual criticism in order to remold the hebrew and greek text to say what they want it to say.

This is cognitive dissonance on the pathological level... really.

187 Baier  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:35:02pm

re: #184 Mad Al-Jaffee

/gooses and walks

These references are fowl.

188 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:35:31pm

re: #185 Guanxi88

hehe! she said "blow"

I don't like the thrust of her argument.

189 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:35:47pm

re: #179 Blizard

And pot farms in CO.

Can you believe it? I was just hiking in Golden Gate Cayon SP not too long before the last bust.

That was you?

190 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:35:54pm

re: #186 Walter L. Newton

I love this point...

3) Not Dumbed Down: not dumbing down the reading level, or diluting the intellectual force and logic of Christianity; the NIV is written at only the 7th grade level[3]

Yet everything I read yesterday when this came up was totally diluting intellectual force, since they are ready to throw out almost 2000 years of scientific textual criticism in order to remold the hebrew and greek text to say what they want it to say.

This is cognitive dissonance on the pathological level... really.

Dostoevsky and the Grand Inquisitor, anyone?

191 Gang of One  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:37:20pm

re: #188 John Neverbend

I don't like the thrust of her argument.

John Neverbend ... is Thomas your middle name?

192 Irenicum  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:37:51pm

re: #173 Charles

Congratulations Charles. Strange bedfellows indeed!

193 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:38:30pm

re: #191 Gang of One

John Neverbend ... is Thomas your middle name?

Neverbend is just their Ellis Island name; back in Naples, they were the Peyronies.

194 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:38:30pm

We need cars with better gas mileage because the economy is in the tank.

195 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:38:42pm

re: #186 Walter L. Newton

I love this point...

3) Not Dumbed Down: not dumbing down the reading level, or diluting the intellectual force and logic of Christianity; the NIV is written at only the 7th grade level[3]

Yet everything I read yesterday when this came up was totally diluting intellectual force, since they are ready to throw out almost 2000 years of scientific textual criticism in order to remold the hebrew and greek text to say what they want it to say.

This is cognitive dissonance on the pathological level... really.

I like the part about the free-market parables.

196 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:39:21pm

re: #194 Ojoe

We need cars with better gas mileage because the economy is in the tank.

BuzzKill.
/

197 Blizard  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:39:33pm

re: #189 Walter L. Newton

Uh, nope. Creepy to think I was hiking so close to the caretakers of the garden, though. Dangerous stuff I tell you.

198 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:39:40pm

re: #158 Walter L. Newton

I'm repeating myself, I'm repeating myself,...

Damn you really did find some green farms on the park land didn't you...

199 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:39:57pm

re: #173 Charles

Cognitive dissonance alert!

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

Uh oh... Kos reads LGF! That means he and Charles are in a secret gay love triangle! No, even worse! A LIBERAL gay love triangle! That is worst kind! This means that both of them must be purged. WITH PATRIOTIC FIRE!!1eleventy!
///

/and you know who the third member of the triangle is? Obama.

//if you at any point took the above seriously, I pity you.

200 Irenicum  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:40:40pm

re: #199 Dante41

A sure sign of the end times if you ask me!
///

201 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:40:58pm

re: #173 Charles

Cognitive dissonance alert!

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

These are strange days, very strange days indeed when the dKos hat tips LGF.

202 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:41:07pm

Smoking Gun in Viacom vs Youtube?

203 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:41:18pm

re: #169 Pianobuff

I was surprised to see that Mustaine appears on Alex Jones.

Well I don't watch Alex Jones and have no idea about Mustaine's politics, especially lately. I just used to go to the shows and slam till my neck screamed for mercy. Ah youth...

204 Bloodnok  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:41:20pm

re: #173 Charles

Cognitive dissonance alert!

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

Nice! Good to see credit given where it is due (not to mention the prospect of new readers).

205 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:41:29pm

re: #190 Guanxi88

Dostoevsky and the Grand Inquisitor, anyone?

This would be acceptable if they were trying to create a running biblical commentary or a new annotated version of the scripture, but they are actually trying to wince out meanings that culturally, historically or linguistically have nothing to do with the origianal text.

206 Sharmuta  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:42:06pm

re: #201 Honorary Yooper

These are strange days, very strange days indeed when the dKos hat tips LGF.

Strange days, indeed.

207 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:42:16pm

re: #172 Creeping Eruption

Bong Recreational Area

Holy crap. LGF green party in Wisconcin!!!

208 Blizard  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:42:52pm

And for the record, I always thought Mustaine was a whiny little bit**

209 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:43:09pm

re: #205 Walter L. Newton

This would be acceptable if they were trying to create a running biblical commentary or a new annotated version of the scripture, but they are actually trying to wince out meanings that culturally, historically or linguistically have nothing to do with the origianal text.

They've figured it all out, it seems to me. Their Christianity doesn't need the old versions of the scripture anymore. And, as they're bibliolators at heart, they decide that since the old idol doesn't meet their requirements, they'll just have to make a new one.

210 Gang of One  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:43:30pm

re: #205 Walter L. Newton

This would be acceptable if they were trying to create a running biblical commentary or a new annotated version of the scripture, but they are actually trying to wince out meanings that culturally, historically or linguistically have nothing to do with the origianal text.

Yes, absolutely. Talmudic hachomim they ain't.

211 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:43:39pm

re: #200 Irenicum

A sure sign of the end times if you ask me!
///

Dogs and cats sleeping together!

212 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:43:46pm

re: #173 Charles

Cognitive dissonance alert!

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

You can wear your kos tee shirt while using your color of change sham-wow. Outfit coordination is the fab...

213 Randall Gross  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:44:02pm

Speaking of youtube, it's "music Tuesday"

Youtube Video
214 John Neverbend  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:44:32pm

re: #191 Gang of One

John Neverbend ... is Thomas your middle name?

Ha, that's a good one. My son had a teacher called John Thomas. Nobody could understand why I kept laughing when the name was mentioned.

215 Irenicum  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:44:37pm

re: #211 Mad Al-Jaffee

Exactly! Be afraid. Be vewwy vewwy afraid!!!

216 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:44:40pm

re: #211 Mad Al-Jaffee

Dogs and cats sleeping together!

USING THE CONSTITUTION AS A BLANKET

//

217 Irenicum  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:45:11pm

re: #216 Dante41

A blanket of SIN!!!
/

218 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:46:19pm

re: #214 John Neverbend

Ha, that's a good one. My son had a teacher called John Thomas. Nobody could understand why I kept laughing when the name was mentioned.

There's a great bit from Beavis and Butthead where Mr. Anderson is going to a reunion. All his friends have phallic names like Dick, Rod, John Thomas, etc.

219 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:46:21pm

re: #217 Irenicum

A blanket of SIN!!!
/

beneath the duvet of depravity.

220 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:46:30pm

re: #217 Irenicum

A blanket of SIN!!!
/

Damn that liberal gay love trigonometry!

221 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:47:23pm

re: #211 Mad Al-Jaffee

Dogs and cats sleeping together!

Mass hysteria! Big ups for the "Meatballs" ref.

IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!

222 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:48:01pm

re: #210 Gang of One

Yes, absolutely. Talmudic hachomim they ain't.

Well, maybe they are trying to get to that point. There has been a lot of christian revisionism in the past, but usually with in the confines of variant readings of certain texts or simply ignoring certain texts that are problematic.

223 Irenicum  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:48:03pm

re: #221 Locker

Oh c'mon! It's Ghostbusters dude!

224 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:48:49pm

re: #221 Locker

Mass hysteria! Big ups for the "Meatballs" ref.

IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!

Er, Ghostbusters reference, yes?

225 Irenicum  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:49:31pm

Hey baby, wanna exercise your constitutional rights?

226 iceweasel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:49:44pm

re: #173 Charles

Cognitive dissonance alert!

[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

W00t! This totally makes my day, for some reason.

I can hear wingnut heads a'popping all across the ugly-sphere like popcorn kernels in the microwave!

227 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:49:48pm

OT technical question: When you click on a lizard's profile, what does the "number of links posted" mean? TIA.

228 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:50:28pm

re: #223 Irenicum

re: #224 Walter L. Newton

I stand corrected.

229 Irenicum  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:50:32pm

re: #226 iceweasel

You just gave me a great visual! And with that I need to eat dinner.

230 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:50:34pm

re: #224 Walter L. Newton

Er, Ghostbusters reference, yes?

Yup. Ghostbusters.

231 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:51:08pm

re: #226 iceweasel

W00t! This totally makes my day, for some reason.

I can hear wingnut heads a'popping all across the ugly-sphere like popcorn kernels in the microwave!

It's hard for me not to predict some sort of weirdo conspiracy theory like Charles is the secret love child of the KOS operators or something.

232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:51:12pm

re: #226 iceweasel

Don't forget the moonbats. The hates Charles Johnson, my precious. Hates him they does...

233 iceweasel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:51:20pm

re: #229 Irenicum

You just gave me a great visual! And with that I need to eat dinner.

It made me hungry too!

BBL!

234 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:51:28pm

re: #227 The Sanity Inspector

OT technical question: When you click on a lizard's profile, what does the "number of links posted" mean? TIA.

If we tell you, we'll have to kill you :)

235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:51:58pm

yre: #224 Walter L. Newton

But you've seen "Shakes the Clown"?

236 Irenicum  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:52:34pm

re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Tricksy I tells ya, triksy he is!

237 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:53:34pm

re: #231 Locker

It's hard for me not to predict some sort of weirdo conspiracy theory like Charles is the secret love child of the KOS operators or something.

If it wouldn't get me banned, I'd spread mah above theorem amongst the crazy-right blogosphere myself. Just to see how many would run with it.

/you know Riel would

238 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:53:59pm

re: #235 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

y

But you've seen "Shakes the Clown"?

Shakes the Clown: Hey, hey, kid, what are you doing?

Kid: (peeing across Shakes) I had to go to the bathroom.

Shakes the Clown: On my head?

Kid: Hey this is my bathroom not your bedroom you big drunken mess.

239 iceweasel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:54:01pm

re: #231 Locker

It's hard for me not to predict some sort of weirdo conspiracy theory like Charles is the secret love child of the KOS operators or something.

heh. That's already favoured rumour amongst the Village of the Banned. All kinds of rumours about Obama personally contacting Charles, you and I and others being recruited from dKos, etc. Name a crazy theory and it's already been floated.

This is totally going to have the haters all frothing and burbling and hissing like a busted espresso machine.

240 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:54:47pm

re: #232 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Don't forget the moonbats. The hates Charles Johnson, my precious. Hates him they does...

For better or worse South Park has over written another reference. I can't help seeing Butters trying to recover Back Door Sluts 9 from the boys before they completely there quest to return The One Video to the video store.

Precious...

241 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:54:50pm

re: #239 iceweasel

heh. That's already favoured rumour amongst the Village of the Banned. All kinds of rumours about Obama personally contacting Charles, you and I and others being recruited from dKos, etc. Name a crazy theory and it's already been floated.

This is totally going to have the haters all frothing and burbling and hissing like a busted espresso machine.

And what am I? The crazy conservative in the basement?

242 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:54:57pm

re: #239 iceweasel

frothing and burbling and hissing like a busted espresso machine.

Beautiful imagery.

243 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:55:48pm

re: #227 The Sanity Inspector

OT technical question: When you click on a lizard's profile, what does the "number of links posted" mean? TIA.

That refers to links posted to the Linkviewer, located just above the headline of this article (or just above the date on the front page.) Or they can be submitted as spinoff links to a particular article, but you'll have to ask Pre-Boomer Marine Brat about that, because I don't do it that way.

244 iceweasel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:55:53pm

re: #241 Walter L. Newton

And what am I? The crazy conservative in the basement?

You're beloved for your cranky contrarianism. Among other reasons. :)

245 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:55:56pm

re: #241 Walter L. Newton

And what am I? The crazy conservative in the basement?

We have you chained up and brainwashed. You would leave and rejoin the rest if you were yourself.

///

246 Gang of One  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:55:57pm

re: #222 Walter L. Newton

Well, maybe they are trying to get to that point. There has been a lot of christian revisionism in the past, but usually with in the confines of variant readings of certain texts or simply ignoring certain texts that are problematic.


They'll never get to that point. Talmud, Gemarrah, and Mishneh was/is never about revision but about interpretation -- two Jews; three opinions. But your point is spot on, in that maybe these people are looking for variant readings. But the Jewish Sages never intended for their work to detract from the law, rather to illuminate. It was always meant to uphold it, uplift it, and give us myriad angles to approach the Torah.

247 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:56:12pm

re: #241 Walter L. Newton

And what am I? The crazy conservative in the basement?

Are you in the basement now? I'm amazed they even let you on the property; me, I've gotta mail my posts to a fellow in Topeka, so's he can post for me. Stupid restraining order!

248 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:56:22pm

63,079 page views already today. Not bad.

249 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:56:50pm

re: #244 iceweasel

You're beloved for your cranky contrarianism. Among other reasons. :)

Yea, I know, my butt. I hate being a fucking sex symbol.

250 Guanxi88  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:57:13pm

re: #249 Walter L. Newton

Yea, I know, my butt. I hate being a fucking sex symbol.

A burden that I, too, must bear.

251 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:57:22pm

re: #241 Walter L. Newton

And what am I? The crazy conservative in the basement?

You mean you aren't Al Franken's conservative alter ego? Secretly typing all this from your liberal bunker in Minnesota?

252 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:57:30pm

re: #249 Walter L. Newton

Yea, I know, my butt. I hate being a fucking sex symbol.

Is there another kind?

/don't answer...

253 iceweasel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:57:49pm

re: #249 Walter L. Newton

Yea, I know, my butt. I hate being a fucking sex symbol.

Live it up!

254 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:57:55pm

re: #249 Walter L. Newton

Yea, I know, my butt. I hate being a fucking sex symbol.

There are sex symbols that people don't want to fuck?

255 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:58:37pm

re: #254 Dante41

There are sex symbols that people don't want to fuck?

Oh no you didn't!

256 iceweasel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:58:47pm

re: #247 Guanxi88

Are you in the basement now?

IT RUBS THE LOTION ON ITS SKIN OR ELSE IT READS KOS AGAIN!

/

257 Blanche DeTritus  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:58:53pm

re: #125 Charles

You mean those ads where a bunch of amateur musicians sit around in a barn playing guitars and singing about their boners?

Alors, Charles.

This now explains me something that has me confused in English.

I was thinking that they sing about "la bonne heure" which is a nice thing to sing about. I thought "maybe they look forward a quiet evening with the wife."

Now that I understand I think "poor wife".

258 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:59:15pm

re: #250 Guanxi88

re: #251 Locker

re: #253 iceweasel

re: #254 Dante41

Nope, not going to respond... nope...

259 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 1:59:39pm

re: #258 Walter L. Newton

re: #251 Locker

re: #253 iceweasel

re: #254 Dante41

Nope, not going to respond... nope...

YOU JUST DID

260 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:00:17pm

re: #227 The Sanity Inspector

OT technical question: When you click on a lizard's profile, what does the "number of links posted" mean? TIA.

It's the total number of bratwursts a given Lizard has nailed to telephone poles, walls, etc.

261 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:00:21pm

re: #256 iceweasel

IT RUBS THE LOTION ON ITS SKIN OR ELSE IT READS KOS AGAIN!

/

You know I won't play "lambs" without the latest issue of Auto Trader. '71 cuda, plum crazy purple. This guy wants fourteen grand. Whaat?

262 Walter L. Newton  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:01:38pm

re: #257 Blanche DeTritus

Alors, Charles.

This now explains me something that has me confused in English.

I was thinking that they sing about "la bonne heure" which is a nice thing to sing about. I thought "maybe they look forward a quiet evening with the wife."

Now that I understand I think "poor wife".

Alors. Isn't that sort of non-formal, and considering you don't know Charles personally, shouldn't that be "Bonjour or Bonsoir?" :)
//

263 iceweasel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:01:39pm

re: #261 Locker

You know I won't play "lambs" without the latest issue of Auto Trader. '71 cuda, plum crazy purple. This guy wants fourteen grand. Whaat?

I'm not getting that reference but I'm thinking of that South Park where Cartman is playing "lambs". heh.

And now I must go for a while. Au revoir, LGF peeps!

264 wrenchwench  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:02:28pm

re: #260 Slumbering Behemoth

It's the total number of bratwursts a given Lizard has nailed to telephone poles, walls, etc.

I'll bet you had a lot more fun typing that than I had typing my answer.

265 Locker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:02:43pm

re: #263 iceweasel

I'm not getting that reference but I'm thinking of that South Park where Cartman is playing "lambs". heh.

And now I must go for a while. Au revoir, LGF peeps!

Hehe it's a combination of that and Joe Dirt.

266 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:04:01pm

re: #264 wrenchwench

Wot? You gave a legit answer? For shame!
/

267 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:05:17pm

French general planned 18th-century invasion of Britain using American force

From Julius Caesar to Adolf Hitler, the invasion of Britain has been a constant theme in the history of these islands, even if the successful attempts have been heavily outnumbered by the unsuccessful ones.

Until now, however, one plan has remained unknown: an 18th-century plot to invade with an American army during that country’s War of Independence.

Drawn up by a French general, the scheme was to bring over an American force of 10,000 that would find a Britain so distracted by the war on the other side of the Atlantic, that victory would seem certain. Just to make sure, however, the general suggested that the force include a corps of Native Americans, or “sauvages”, as he termed them, who would strike such fear in British troops that any resistance would collapse immediately.

268 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:06:21pm

re: #263 iceweasel

This one still cracks me up. NSFW

269 avanti  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:06:44pm

re: #231 Locker

It's hard for me not to predict some sort of weirdo conspiracy theory like Charles is the secret love child of the KOS operators or something.

A couple of theories on the stalker site.

1. Charles sold the site to a leftie.
2. Charles has lost his mind and his "friends" are worried about him.
3. Charles wants to become KOS like and be a big time, more famous blogger.

270 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:07:08pm

re: #243 wrenchwench

That refers to links posted to the Linkviewer, located just above the headline of this article (or just above the date on the front page.) Or they can be submitted as spinoff links to a particular article, but you'll have to ask Pre-Boomer Marine Brat about that, because I don't do it that way.

Okay thanks, I've never fooled around with either of those widgets.

271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:07:15pm

re: #254 Dante41

Brad Pitts a sex symbol, I wouldn't do him.

Well, I might, BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT!

272 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:08:45pm

re: #271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Brad Pitts a sex symbol, I wouldn't do him.

Well, I might, BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT!

No, the point is somewhere else.

273 TedStriker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:12:05pm

re: #151 Blizard

Beat you to it.

I'm starting to see who's in the same age group.

Personally, I'm a Maiden fan. Great lyrics, and Bruce Dickenson was sober the whole time IIRC.

A heavy metal man, through and through...the man collects tanks and other armored vehicles, IIRC!

274 RexMundi  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:14:13pm

re: #23 Cato the Elder

I happen to know for a fact that this is all a plot by ZOMGitsCriss. The Romanian Atheist Mafia is run from her bedroom, and she's comin' after ya, Glenn. And not in a good way.

I wish she would plot against me. w00t!

275 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:14:26pm

re: #271 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Brad Pitts a sex symbol, I wouldn't do him.

Well, I might, BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT!

If you had to fuck a guy, I mean, if your life depended on it...

/incidentally, Pitt was also in that movie. do I get bonus points?

276 equable  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:17:52pm

re: #151 Blizard

Beat you to it.

I'm starting to see who's in the same age group.

Personally, I'm a Maiden fan. Great lyrics, and Bruce Dickenson was sober the whole time IIRC.

You're one of God's chosen.

They're my favorite band to this day.

277 Achilles Tang  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:18:00pm

I'll cheer for advertisers bailing on Beck, but I have to admit I'm uncomfortable giving credit to something called "Color of Change".

278 equable  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:18:36pm

re: #254 Dante41

There are sex symbols that people don't want to fuck?

I recall reading somewhere that Courtney Love was a "sex symbol".

I wouldn't hit that with a stolen penis.

279 TedStriker  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:23:00pm

re: #221 Locker

Err, that would be a Ghostbusters reference...at least you knew Bill Murray was in both!

;-P

280 The Curmudgeon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:24:21pm

Watching Beck now. First commercial break had these ads:
Goldline International
Some "mortgage relief outfit," with no name, just a phone number.
Scooter Store (motorized wheelchairs)
Some asthma outfit
Freedom debt relief

281 philosophus invidius  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:25:17pm

I don't think FOX cares if Beck's show is a huge money-loser because sponsers are backing out. FOX still wins because they have all those crazies watching FOX for the rest of the day too. Which is why they chose to make their news channel have a right-wing brand.

282 JRCMYP  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:25:44pm

How many FOX advertisers are there? They just loop them in. Is this a significant number? I would imagine that FOX has about 1000 advertisers at any one time that get slotted in to times/shows that fit the amount of money they've forked over. Not saying that Beck isn't a clown--I would never advertise with him (for many reasons), but I'm wondering how statistically significant the number really is.

283 The Curmudgeon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:34:08pm

Still watching Beck. Second commercial break had these ads:
Missed a quick one
Lifelock (Identity Theft)
Rosland Capital (Gordon Liddy selling gold)

284 Blizard  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:38:49pm

re: #273 talon_262

A heavy metal man, through and through...the man collects tanks and other armored vehicles, IIRC!

AND he's a commercial airline pilot. He flew their large plane, Ed Force One, on their last tour.

His cousin Rob Dickenson, former frontman of Catherine Wheel, puts out some great music, too. This was from his solo album that came out a few years ago. Not many other you-tubes of him, but Fresh Wine For The Horses is highly recommended.

Youtube Video
285 Blizard  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:40:23pm

re: #276 equable

As well as mine. I will still listen to them when I am 85.

286 The Curmudgeon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:47:47pm

Beck's third commercial break had these ads:
Brother computer printers
American something-or-other. (Coalition for clean power)
Poliltical ad about the national debt.
Accu-chek something about Aviva

287 The Curmudgeon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:51:40pm

Beck's 4th commercial break had these ads:

National Review magazine
Movie ad: "2012" (Comcast)
Scooter Store (motarized wheel chair) 2nd ad this show

288 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 2:58:12pm

re: #284 Blizard

Have you seen this?

/Blasphemy!

289 Equable  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 3:00:44pm

re: #288 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh my.

We're through the looking glass, people.

290 The Curmudgeon  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 3:00:49pm

Beck's last commercial break had these ads:

Rosland Capital (Gordon Liddy selling gold) 2nd ad this show
Wall Street Journal (part of Murdoch's group)
Coalition for clean energy (again)
Accu-Chek Aviva (again)
Imperial Structured Settlements

291 Jimmah  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 3:20:08pm

re: #239 iceweasel

heh. That's already favoured rumour amongst the Village of the Banned. All kinds of rumours about Obama personally contacting Charles, you and I and others being recruited from dKos, etc. Name a crazy theory and it's already been floated.

This is totally going to have the haters all frothing and burbling and hissing like a busted espresso machine.

A couple of things I saw over there: I was brought here by you from Kos recently. As my LGF registration date here clearly confirms) /

Also, you were registered on a day in which there was no registration. If only they knew your true nature they might understand why...;-)

Image: Cloneoflair2.jpg

292 Blizard  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 3:25:52pm

re: #288 Slumbering Behemoth

Have you seen this?

/Blasphemy!

Holy, what the...

293 iceweasel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 3:29:09pm

re: #291 Jimmah

A couple of things I saw over there: I was brought here by you from Kos recently. As my LGF registration date here clearly confirms) /

Also, you were registered on a day in which there was no registration. If only they knew your true nature they might understand why...;-)

[Link: i238.photobucket.com...]

You of course know all about my podbay doors and how to open them. You even named me! :)

I.C.E.W.E.A.S.E.L. 9000: Integrated Communist Enabling Wingnut Exterminator And Simulated Empathetic Liberal.

294 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 3:33:27pm

re: #293 iceweasel

You of course know all about my podbay doors and how to open them. You even named me! :)

I.C.E.W.E.A.S.E.L. 9000: Integrated Communist Enabling Wingnut Exterminator And Simulated Empathetic Liberal.

"I'm afraid I can't do that, Charles."

295 Jimmah  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 3:40:46pm

re: #293 iceweasel

You of course know all about my podbay doors and how to open them. You even named me! :)

I.C.E.W.E.A.S.E.L. 9000: Integrated Communist Enabling Wingnut Exterminator And Simulated Empathetic Liberal.

It is true, I alone have the secret access codes to your restricted areas :)

Youtube Video
296 bratwurst  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 3:52:36pm

re: #260 Slumbering Behemoth

It's the total number of bratwursts a given Lizard has nailed to telephone poles, walls, etc.

Nail me where you like, just nail me! ;-)

297 Rascal One  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 3:54:57pm

Beck needs to take some lessons from David Letterman! Just crack a joke about a rape of a girl and then, sleep with half of your staff and your ratings go through the roof and advertisers are lined up!

What a country!

298 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 3:58:39pm

re: #297 Rascal One

Beck needs to take some lessons from David Letterman! Just crack a joke about a rape of a girl and then, sleep with half of your staff and your ratings go through the roof and advertisers are lined up!

What a country!

He doesn't need to joke about it. Everyone knows that he didn't rape and kill a girl in 1990.

/

299 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 4:05:43pm

re: #298 Dante41

He doesn't need to joke about it. Everyone knows that he didn't rape and kill a girl in 1990.

/

If anyone is wondering about this, its a Fark meme. Supposedly it is to "give him a taste of his own medicine" via proving that he didn't commit some horrible act.

300 Dante41  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 4:07:54pm

re: #299 Dante41

If anyone is wondering about this, its a Fark meme. Supposedly it is to "give him a taste of his own medicine" via proving that he didn't commit some horrible act.

Putting the proof of innocence on him, I mean.

PIMF and back out of the thread...

301 iceweasel  Tue, Oct 6, 2009 4:12:08pm

re: #295 Jimmah

It is true, I alone have the secret access codes to your restricted areas :)


Oooh cheeky. :)

It's true though. You do!

And that clip is so perfect.

302 scullymj  Wed, Oct 7, 2009 8:56:25am

I don't pretend to know anything about TV advertising, but I watch Glenn Beck and I see no difference in advertising. Somehow I think this advertising "boycott" is overblown. Advertisers, I would think, care first about Beck's ratings and their revenues. GB equals big ratings. As more is learned about BHO, more people will turn against him and Beck's ratings will only soar. Advertisers will get on board. I've read Obama's (ghost written?) book "Dreams" and concluded he had negative issues with white people so I don't think Glen Beck told us anything we didn't already know in our guts. I wonder how many posters here really watch GB or are just parroting the slogans they hear at Starbucks. If he is the nut job some people say he is, what is to fear? If were can survive Obama, you can survive Glenn Beck.


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