1 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:06:52pm

How in the world can that be good for business. What a moron.

2 ckb  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:07:07pm

Freedom of speech: you just have to hope the good outweighs the bad...

3 sffilk  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:07:16pm

As someone who lives in Atlanta, I'm not surprised at the sentiment held by this "person." I see/hear enough of it living down here still.

To put it politely, it stinks.

4 erraticsphinx  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:07:36pm

Ahem.


*cough*

5 sffilk  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:07:40pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

How in the world can that be good for business. What a moron.

The problem is, his patrons, in all likelihood, agree with it!

6 Dante41  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:09:46pm

re: #2 ckb

Freedom of speech: you just have to hope the good outweighs the bad...

Oh yes. He has freedom speech to say that. It is his bar, and his sign.

However, I also have the freedom of speech to call him a racist cockbag who is an insult to humanity.

It all evens out.

7 Equable  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:10:10pm

Would it have killed the guy to use the phrase "jerry-rigged"?

8 Land Shark  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:11:02pm

Stupid (racist) is as stupid (racist) goes. Hey, what's the big deal? He says he's been using the "N" word all his life! Doesn't he get grandfathered in or something?

///

And he has a manequin dressed in a KKK outfit too. This guy is a prize, man!

9 SeaMonkey  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:12:08pm

Sad.

10 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:13:20pm

Here's a song for the bar owner

Youtube Video
11 SpaceJesus  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:14:04pm

actually i think we should pay china to take the south away from us.

12 erraticsphinx  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:14:39pm

re: #11 spacejesus

Nooo , and you were being so good!

/

13 vxbush  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:15:03pm

Okay, can I admit, I don't even know what that means, using that particular verb with the word in question.

14 bosforus  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:15:06pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

How in the world can that be good for business. What a moron.

Location. Location. Location.

15 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:15:30pm

re: #11 spacejesus

actually i think we should pay china to take the south away from us.

Just make Florida an island, please.

16 SpaceJesus  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:15:50pm

re: #12 erraticsphinx

Nooo , and you were being so good!

/

my karma is getting dangerously close to going below -1000.


i can't let this happen.

17 SpaceJesus  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:16:02pm

re: #15 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just make Florida an island, please.

southern florida

18 Equable  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:16:26pm

It's funny how he offers the pictures he has hanging inside his establishment as proof that he isn't a bigot. Ridiculous. I reiterate: anybody who uses that word or words like it other than for historical context or to quote somebody (of course the reason for quoting someone being paramount) is a filthy bigot. And I mean anybody.

The types who throw that term around while moaning that they're not racist, therefor it's okay to use it annoy me the most.

19 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:18:11pm

Freedom of Speech - Includes the Right to say Stupid Stuff. The bar owner has exercised both rights.

-S-

20 Danny  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:18:16pm

re: #11 spacejesus

actually i think we should pay china to take the south away from us.

Uh...no.

21 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:19:08pm

re: #18 Equable

It's funny how he offers the pictures he has hanging inside his establishment as proof that he isn't a bigot. Ridiculous. I reiterate: anybody who uses that word or words like it other than for historical context or to quote somebody (of course the reason for quoting someone being paramount) is a filthy bigot. And I mean anybody.

The types who throw that term around while moaning that they're not racist, therefor it's okay to use it annoy me the most.

Well, Richard Pryor could use words like that without being racist, but he and others like him are more the exception than the rule.

22 reine.de.tout  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:19:19pm

re: #11 spacejesus

actually i think we should pay china to take the south away from us.

Sorry, SpaceJ - you're stuck with us.

23 J.S.  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:19:28pm

re: #13 vxbush

(I don't get it either -- maybe it's supposed to sound close to the expression, "jury rigged?" )

24 Equable  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:20:50pm

re: #18 Equable

The types who throw that term around while moaning that they're not racist, therefor it's okay to use it annoy me the most.

Holy crappy Grammar Batman!

That should have read:

"The types who claim that they are not racist thus their usage of the term makes it okay annoy me the most."

My apologies.

25 bosforus  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:21:07pm

re: #23 J.S.

I first thought it was a play on the word Tiggeriffic but looking back on it... I'm not sure what they were going for.

26 SpaceJesus  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:21:14pm

we will keep kentucky and tennessee though, they make bourbon there

27 Danny  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:23:57pm

re: #26 spacejesus

we will keep kentucky and tennessee though, they make bourbon there

And whiskey.

28 Sol Berdinowitz  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:24:08pm

The politically correct term for it is "afro-engineering"...

29 J.S.  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:24:13pm

re: #25 bosforus

(yeah, guess it's asking too much to expect a coherent sign (something which "makes sense"), from the jumbled, confused thoughts of a racist..)

30 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:24:30pm

I started to write a post about that moronic accusation by Michelle Malkin and a host of other morons that the Alma Thomas painting in the White House was "plagiarized," but the whole concept is so stupid it paralyzed my brain.

I think I may need to bash my head into the wall a few times to unstick it.

31 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:24:38pm

re: #27 Danny

And whiskey.

SJ is a bourbon savior.

32 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:24:47pm

"I've used the N word most of my life..."

People can and do change. Some don't see the need. I just hope this guy is not raising any kids.

33 debutaunt  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:26:24pm

re: #32 wrenchwench

"I've used the N word most of my life..."

People can and do change. Some don't see the need. I just hope this guy is not raising any kids.

Hey, I'm an ignorant moron and...

34 ohpleaseno  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:26:31pm

I hate that CNN even spent any time on that garbage.

35 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:26:50pm

re: #11 spacejesus

actually i think we should pay china to take the south away from us.

Now, now SpaceJeeze- that's the easy way out. We have to win them over to rationality. We could make a game of it, and you could aim for World Champion.

36 Danny  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:27:05pm

re: #30 Charles

Have you read this? It might help.

37 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:27:27pm

re: #28 ralphieboy

I've heard it that way. I wouldn't go so far as to call it "politically correct." I'd call it a weasely way to say something you know you're not supposed to.

38 Cheeseland  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:29:30pm

re: #10 Kosh's Shadow

It may be time for:

Your text to link...

39 filetandrelease  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:30:05pm

re: #11 spacejesus

actually i think we should pay china to take the south away from us.

And you can kiss my butt. Punk.

40 tradewind  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:30:20pm

White trash, for sure. This had to be in some Godforsaken hole in the neck of the woods. All you need to know is that the guy admits he's used that word for twenty something years. If he'd had a decent upbringing, his parents would never have allowed him to utter it more than once without washing his mouth out with soap and explaining to him why it was ugly.
Hopefully CNN will spread its net and pick up some of these sights and sounds further North.

41 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:31:10pm

re: #7 Equable

Would it have killed the guy to use the phrase "jerry-rigged"?

re: #25 bosforus

I first thought it was a play on the word Tiggeriffic but looking back on it... I'm not sure what they were going for.

He wanted to use the N-word, and he clearly was making an allusion to the racist term N-rich. He didn't say N-rigged. He said "N rig it."

The idea being that health care, like welfare (in his head and racists'
heads) is all about giving wealth to shiftless people who will squander it and don't deserve it. That N-R term is one they use for that.

Link to urban dictionary (warning, offensive) for those unfamiliar with the allusion this racist was making.

42 tradewind  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:31:15pm

re: #35 Sharmuta

If you really think that most people in the South need ' winning over to rationality' because they share that guy's attitude, you should get out more.

43 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:32:18pm

re: #42 tradewind

Except I didn't say that, did I?

44 tradewind  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:32:53pm

re: #22 reine.de.tout

Not really... he can refuse to visit.
Impact to be determined later.
///

45 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:33:28pm

re: #41 iceweasel

Sorry, my link got redirected -- try this one. (again, warning, offensive)

[Link: tinyurl.com...]

46 marsl  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:34:02pm

Nothing new. If Obama were a jew, it would be "the dirty jew rig it". Since Obama is black, just replace "dirty jew" with "n***r".

Once a KKK, always a KKK, forever a KKK.

Many things have changed in the South. But something will not change... no matter what. Is not a fault from southerners. Racism exists everywhere, including in my country.

47 Jimmah  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:34:10pm
Youtube Video

BBL

48 The Dude  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:34:15pm

CNN finding a racist bar owner in GA is about as stunning as Obama winning a Nobel Peace Prize.

49 tradewind  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:34:21pm

re: #43 Sharmuta
Sorry, true. You said this.

We have to win them over to rationality

.
I guess it's all in the context.

50 iceweasel  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:34:47pm

One thing I will say about CNN-- at least they interviewed other local people who were disgusted and appalled and didn't try to portray the whole South or all of GA as thinking that way.

51 ckb  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:35:20pm

re: #36 Danny

Have you read this? It might help.

Wow, excellent. So it was more like an homage. The text almost describes it as a satirical piece. "If he can do that so can I." Very interesting ,thanks!

52 tradewind  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:35:37pm

re: #46 marsl

I've always heard the expression ' Jerry rig it'.
I guess that is offensive to Germans? If so, please consider this a retroactive apology.

53 SpaceJesus  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:35:56pm

re: #35 Sharmuta

Now, now SpaceJeeze- that's the easy way out. We have to win them over to rationality. We could make a game of it, and you could aim for World Champion.

Yeah, that's probably the better way. I still think letting the south be ruled over by a totalitarian atheist regime of non-whites for a decade or so would be hilarious.

54 debutaunt  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:36:32pm

re: #52 tradewind

I've always heard the expression ' Jerry rig it'.
I guess that is offensive to Germans? If so, please consider this a retroactive apology.

It changed to jury rig when the Mafia ended up in court.

55 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:36:36pm

re: #36 Danny

Have you read this? It might help.

Yes, I have that link open right now.

The morons have actually LINKED to that art catalog -- without even grasping what it says! Alma Thomas's painting is a deliberate 'riff' on the Matisse painting, and it says that explicitly in the catalog -- and STILL they're accusing it of being a cheap copy.

Artists do this all the time. Calling it plagiarism is so freaking ignorant these people should have their computers confiscated so they can't inflict that dimwitted nonsense on anyone else. ARGH.

This one just takes the cake -- a triple layer stupid-food cake with idiot frosting and little chunks of dried moronfruit.

56 lastlaugh  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:37:20pm

re: #48 The Dude

Clearly not racist. Would a racist person have a NAACP card from 3 years ago on him at all times?

57 abbyadams  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:37:41pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

There are some business owners that care more about ideology than profit, apparently. See if you can figure that one out.

'Round here, the demographic is about 50% D, 50% R. We have business owners (all of them conservative, sad to say) that post Rush and Savage quotes as well as some outright racist things about Obama.

My question is, will they see the fact that their business is losing money because they're driving customers away, or will they just blame Obama?

58 Sharmuta  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:37:55pm

re: #49 tradewind

This is what you said I think:

If you really think that most people in the South need ' winning over to rationality' because they share that guy's attitude, you should get out more.

I didn't state that as my opinion. You stated that was my opinion. I don't know why you would think I would think rational people need to be brought around to rational thinking. Seems only the irrational would, so- simmer down.

59 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:37:58pm

re: #4 erraticsphinx

Ahem.


*cough*

A disgrace.

60 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:38:15pm

re: #55 Charles

a triple layer stupid-food cake with idiot frosting and little chunks of dried moronfruit.

In the new cookbook?
///

61 wrenchwench  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:38:30pm

re: #55 Charles

This one just takes the cake -- a triple layer stupid-food cake with idiot frosting and little chunks of dried moronfruit.

LOL. Now I'm hungry...

62 researchok  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:38:57pm

re: #30 Charles

I started to write a post about that moronic accusation by Michelle Malkin and a host of other morons that the Alma Thomas painting in the White House was "plagiarized," but the whole concept is so stupid it paralyzed my brain.

I think I may need to bash my head into the wall a few times to unstick it.

Everybody who ever bought a Beatles poster in now an art critic.

63 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:39:23pm

re: #11 spacejesus

actually i think we should pay china to take the south away from us.

And what would they do with all the transplants who've made new lives here, after fleeing their northern urban hellholes?

64 filetandrelease  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:40:11pm

re: #53 SpaceJesus

Yeah, that's probably the better way. I still think letting the south be ruled over by a totalitarian atheist regime of non-whites for a decade or so would be hilarious.

You in a cage with a gorilla on Viagra would be a hoot as well.

65 tradewind  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:42:03pm

re: #63 The Sanity Inspector

The northern industrial states are bleeding population, and the South is growing
faster than they can add classrooms and hospital beds. I guess people up there hunger for the bigotry and racism they're sure to find here.
///

66 SpaceJesus  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:44:08pm

re: #64 filetandrelease

You in a cage with a gorilla on Viagra would be a hoot as well.

are you comparing chinese people to gorillas on viagra

67 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:44:15pm

re: #64 filetandrelease

You in a cage with a gorilla on Viagra would be a hoot as well.

All I can picture now is the Samsonite commercials from the '70's with screaming.

68 Danny  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:44:28pm

re: #56 lastlaugh

Clearly not racist. Would a racist person have a NAACP card from 3 years ago on him at all times?

They might if they were white and had to repeatedly fend off charges of racism.

69 filetandrelease  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:45:32pm

re: #67 Cannadian Club Akbar

All I can picture now is the Samsonite commercials from the '70's with screaming.

LOL

70 erraticsphinx  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:45:38pm

Denial.
It's not just a river in Egypt.

71 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:45:39pm

Anti-Obama Images Circulate (PHOTOS)


Just as President Obama is awarded the Nobel Peace Prize -- drawing rebukes from critics on both left and right -- anti-Obama images are swirling around the social Web, on blogs and social networking sites.

On Thursday afternoon, Boing Boing posted a marked-down price of a 3 foot-by-5-foot heavily-creased flag in heavy polyester material with an image of Obama next to a confederate flag. The original price of $24.95 was marked down to $12.95.

72 bosforus  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:46:13pm

re: #41 iceweasel

I guess what I thought were the last two letters of the phrase is actually an "H".

73 tradewind  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:46:38pm

I hate to see CNN publicize this stuff... they should be looking for examples of racial harmony and cooperation. Anyone sick enough to put up that sign will be thriving off the publicity, not shamed by it.
And Google leads you right to the site of Stormfront, which I have also heard about here but never seen until now...wow... where the KKK is posting about holding a rally on the grounds of the restaurant. That's what this stuff leads to.
Ignore and shun the idiot, vandalize his sign, and don't feed the racist/fan the flames.
/Not sarc./

74 marsl  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:46:47pm

re: #52 tradewind

Why? I'm european, but i'm not german... i'm portuguese!

75 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:47:50pm

re: #65 tradewind

The northern industrial states are bleeding population, and the South is growing
faster than they can add classrooms and hospital beds. I guess people up there hunger for the bigotry and racism they're sure to find here.
///

The condescension is pretty thick sometimes. I don't offhand know of another part of the country where people feel free to move in and jeer at the natives. "HAOW COME YEZ OLL TWOK S'FUNNY, HAH?"

76 tradewind  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:48:35pm

re: #57 abbyadams

He. Is. A. Knuckle-dragging. Moron.
It's really all anyone needs to take away.

77 The Dude  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:48:52pm
Would a racist person have a NAACP card from 3 years ago on him at all times?

Plausible deniability?

At any rate, my comment #48 spoke more to this than whether or not the guy is a racist:

You’re not going to believe this one.

What's not to believe? That there are still some racists in the world? I'd be willing to bet you could find a few in CA if you looked hard enough.

78 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:49:38pm

I used to know someone who called anything done poorly a "n***r rig". He meant it in the nicest way possible, though.

Just like my ex-boss who would always correct you when you did something the wrong way by saying, "Do it like a white man."

Fine people, both of them. I wonder where they are now?

79 Cato the Elder  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:50:39pm

re: #60 Cannadian Club Akbar

a triple layer stupid-food cake with idiot frosting and little chunks of dried moronfruit.

In the new cookbook?
///

In bed.

80 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:50:42pm

One of my favourite movies is the Dam Busters. It was made in 1955 in black and white. Supposedly there's a remake in the works, coming out in 2010, but I've been hearing about this for several years and not seen anything. The movie covers the events leading up to Operation Chastise, a bombing raid carried out by the RAF in Germany in May 1943 in which a number of dams were bombed and some breached, flooding the Ruhr valley which was the industrial heartland of Germany. The most interesting feature of the raid was that it employed specially designed bombs that were released at extremely low altitude (60 feet), some distance from the dam face and which bounced across the surface of the water until they hit the dam wall. The bombs then rolled down the face of the dam wall on the inside and exploded at a certain depth.

My reason for mentioning this is that the leader of the squadron, Guy Gibson, had a pet black labrador whose name was the N-word. In those days, it wasn't considered particularly objectionable to do this, and the film naturally has many occurrences of the word, particularly as Gibson chose the code-word for a successful breaching of a dam to be the name of the dog.

I really don't know what the new film will make of this. On the one hand, it's unpleasant to keep hearing the word being used, although some would argue that if that was the dog's name, and the code-word, it should be used. I heard that they may use the name "Digger", which makes sense, and for those who haven't seen the original movie or don't know the story, it's a good compromise.

81 lostlakehiker  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:50:47pm

Happily, this sort of thing is pretty much a relic. In WW2, they had a transit workers strike in Philadelphia over the hiring of black drivers. The Army had to be called in to run the trolleys and generally restore order, and the president threatened that any man who failed to show up for work the next Monday would lose his draft deferral. Also during WW2, there were race riots in Detroit, with widespread running fights between gangs of blacks and whites. Federal troops had to restore order there too.

Now, it's a sign on an out of the way bar somewhere in Dixie. Nobody's gotten so much as a scratch. Not even a broken window, and NO, that is not a threat or a suggestion. What I do suggest is, if you're thirsty, and that sign's still up, drive on down the road a piece and look for a sign you like better.

82 [deleted]  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:52:45pm
83 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:52:54pm

They say in the service business you need to know your customers. Sad to think there's enough people like this to make this bar worth keeping open.

84 tradewind  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:53:12pm

re: #75 The Sanity Inspector

I know. I can remember flying routes to parts of upstate NY ( they never did this in NYC) and MN/MI when I first started and sometimes people would say
'Oh, you're from the South... talk some more'! I hardly have an accent, but you would have thought it was Farsi.
Usually I'd finish laying it on thick with ' Wanna see my shoes? Paw gets us all a new pair every Christmas! '

85 Killgore Trout  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:53:15pm

re: #81 lostlakehiker

Happily, this sort of thing is pretty much a relic.


No, it's not. Try reading the comments on right wing sites. There's a lot of racial rhetoric and slurs.

86 erraticsphinx  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:53:51pm

Charles, this is absolutely racist against Southerners.

/

87 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:53:51pm

re: #84 tradewind

I
Usually I'd finish laying it on thick with ' Wanna see my shoes? Paw gets us all a new pair every Christmas! '

This week's mah turn ta wears 'em.

88 filetandrelease  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:54:58pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout

No, it's not. Try reading the comments on right wing sites. There's a lot of racial rhetoric and slurs.

That is true, but is not nearly as bad now as say, 50 years ago.

89 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:54:59pm

re: #84 tradewind

I know. I can remember flying routes to parts of upstate NY ( they never did this in NYC) and MN/MI when I first started and sometimes people would say
'Oh, you're from the South... talk some more'! I hardly have an accent, but you would have thought it was Farsi.
Usually I'd finish laying it on thick with ' Wanna see my shoes? Paw gets us all a new pair every Christmas! '

re: #87 Guanxi88

This week's mah turn ta wears 'em.

Sad but true - my grandfather shared a pair of shoes with his brother. Joined the marines after making sure they fed, clothed, housed, AND paid him. He kept looking for the catch, but couldn't find one. That was 1939.

90 Dante41  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:56:05pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout

No, it's not. Try reading the comments on right wing sites. There's a lot of racial rhetoric and slurs.

Well, at least they haven't done anything beyond talk like absolute fucking morons.

For now, at least.

91 lastlaugh  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:56:08pm

re: #77 The Dude

I'm a bit new to posting, haven't adapted the sarc tags yet.

92 SixDegrees  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:56:41pm

re: #55 Charles

Yes, I have that link open right now.

The morons have actually LINKED to that art catalog -- without even grasping what it says! Alma Thomas's painting is a deliberate 'riff' on the Matisse painting, and it says that explicitly in the catalog -- and STILL they're accusing it of being a cheap copy.

Artists do this all the time. Calling it plagiarism is so freaking ignorant these people should have their computers confiscated so they can't inflict that dimwitted nonsense on anyone else. ARGH.

This one just takes the cake -- a triple layer stupid-food cake with idiot frosting and little chunks of dried moronfruit.

One positive personal note: I learned from reading the catalog that Thomas' painting was based on one of Matisse's vast series of paper cutout works. I saw an enormous display of these when they visited Detroit's Art Institute maybe 25-30 years ago, and they made a huge impression on me. Many of the works are flabbergastingly huge - upwards of 20 x 30 feet in some cases - and I visited with a girlfriend during a time when we were not getting on very well. The overall emotional impact of the exhibit was astonishingly calming, and by the time we left we were both in much better moods. A few years later, discussing this with a friend well versed in art, he mentioned that Matisse's whole focus on creating art was to provide something that people could come home to after a day of soul-crushing work and be spiritually recharged by. So his work had had precisely it's intended effect on us, even though I wasn't aware of Matisse's philosophy at the time.

Learning that this piece is linked to Matisse's work only makes it more interesting to me. Pointing that out over at Malkin's site, however, is like banging a tin cup on a cage full of shit-flinging monkeys.

93 Picayune  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:57:06pm

re: #82 Hawaii69

Maybe this will surprise you: "Comments that advocate violence will be cause for immediate banning with no appeal."

94 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:57:48pm

re: #7 Equable

Would it have killed the guy to use the phrase "jerry-rigged"?

Maybe. I've heard the same term around here, and NE Illinois is hardly the South. These kinds of terms are not limited to one geographic area, nor are they limited to one group of people. I saw one just before the primary (Super Tuesday) that was both racist and sexist at the same time (re: Obama and Hillary). I've also heard plenty of people use "Jew" as an pejorative. People who use such terms seem to do it subconciously. I know that some use them because that's what they were taught, and some use them distincty for the value of the insult.

This bar owner seems to be in that latter category, he's using it for the value of the racist insult.

95 Guanxi88  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:58:02pm

re: #92 SixDegrees


Learning that this piece is linked to Matisse's work only makes it more interesting to me. Pointing that out over at Malkin's site, however, is like banging a tin cup on a cage full of shit-flinging monkeys.

Yeah, but with the monkeys, you might be able to get through to them.

96 tradewind  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 1:59:17pm

re: #7 Equable

What? And upset the entire balance of trade with Germany?
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97 lostlakehiker  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:00:30pm

re: #80 John Neverbend

One of my favourite movies is the Dam Busters. It was made in 1955 in black and white. Supposedly there's a remake in the works, coming out in 2010, but I've been hearing about this for several years and not seen anything. The movie covers the events leading up to Operation Chastise, a bombing raid carried out by the RAF in Germany in May 1943 in which a number of dams were bombed and some breached, flooding the Ruhr valley which was the industrial heartland of Germany. The most interesting feature of the raid was that it employed specially designed bombs that were released at extremely low altitude (60 feet), some distance from the dam face and which bounced across the surface of the water until they hit the dam wall. The bombs then rolled down the face of the dam wall on the inside and exploded at a certain depth.

My reason for mentioning this is that the leader of the squadron, Guy Gibson, had a pet black labrador whose name was the N-word. In those days, it wasn't considered particularly objectionable to do this, and the film naturally has many occurrences of the word, particularly as Gibson chose the code-word for a successful breaching of a dam to be the name of the dog.

I really don't know what the new film will make of this. On the one hand, it's unpleasant to keep hearing the word being used, although some would argue that if that was the dog's name, and the code-word, it should be used. I heard that they may use the name "Digger", which makes sense, and for those who haven't seen the original movie or don't know the story, it's a good compromise.

Sorry, but it's not a good compromise. Leave the dog out, or leave him in. Named as he was named. Bowdlerizing history is just unacceptable.

The operation achieved little of military significance.

About 1,300 people were killed on the ground, including 749 Ukrainian prisoners of war in a camp below the Eder dam.[11](source)

98 marsl  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:00:54pm

re: #96 tradewind

And loose all those BMW's, Audis and Mercedes?

99 CommonCents  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:01:42pm

re: #65 tradewind

The northern industrial states are bleeding population, and the South is growing
faster than they can add classrooms and hospital beds. I guess people up there hunger for the bigotry and racism they're sure to find here.
///

Year round golf. That's what we hunger for.

100 lostlakehiker  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:04:27pm

re: #85 Killgore Trout

No, it's not. Try reading the comments on right wing sites. There's a lot of racial rhetoric and slurs.

Yes it is. We don't see strikes and riots anymore. Marginalized nutcases out in the boonies, and the online boonies, are the ludicrous remnants of what was once a real force for evil in the world.

101 Hawaii69  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:05:10pm

re: #65 tradewind

The northern industrial states are bleeding population, and the South is growing
faster than they can add classrooms and hospital beds. I guess people up there hunger for the bigotry and racism they're sure to find here.
///


So if someone criticizes the South, they must be from the North?

Time to break out a map.

102 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:05:40pm

re: #80 John Neverbend

Consider this lovely passage of prose:

The confused voices of men talking amidships mingled with the wash of the sea, ascended between the silent and distended sails -- seemed to flow away into the night, further than the horizon, higher than the sky. The stars burned steadily over the inclined mastheads. Trails of light lay on the water, broke before the advancing hull, and, after she had passed, trembled for a long time as if in awe of the murmuring sea.

The night was clear, with a gentle breeze. The ship heeled over a little, slipping quietly over a sombre sea towards the inaccessible and festal splendor of a black horizon pierced by points of flickering fire. Above the mastheads the resplendent curve of the Milky Way spanned the sky like a triumphant arch of eternal light, thrown over the dark pathway of the earth.

A multitude of stars coming out into the clear night peopled the emptiness of the sky. They glittered, as if alive above the sea; they surrounded the running ship on all sides; more intense than the eyes of a staring crowd, and as inscrutable as the souls of men.

It's from a Joseph Conrad novel, with a most unfortunate title.

103 filetandrelease  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:07:13pm

Speaking of red necks

Tiger Woods stops for gas in W. Viginia. He gets out of the car and a couple of golf t's fall out on the ground

The old man sitting on the porch ask "hey, what are those for?"

Tiger explains, "There for sitting my balls on while I am driving"

The old man says, "Wow, what will Buick think of next!"

104 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:07:41pm

re: #97 lostlakehiker

I knew about the POW deaths. It's debatable as to the actual value of the raid. You may want to read Operation Chastise for what I think is a fair assessment. Of the 19 aircraft involved, 8 were shot down with 53 aircrew deaths. To have lost nearly 50% of a newly formed squadron in 1 raid was devastating.

Nevertheless, it is a good movie (the 1955 version), and I'm glad that I'm not involved in the making of the new one.

105 Hawaii69  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:08:07pm

re: #93 Picayune

Maybe this will surprise you: "Comments that advocate violence will be cause for immediate banning with no appeal."

That's nice.

Show me the comment that "advocated violence".

Pointing out a likely outcome of his now highly publicized stupidity is not an "advocation" of anything.

106 John Neverbend  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:08:28pm

re: #102 The Sanity Inspector

Consider this lovely passage of prose:


It's from a Joseph Conrad novel, with a most unfortunate title.


Yes, an unfortunate title.

107 Picayune  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:10:33pm

re: #105 Hawaii69

Take it up with Charles, it's his rule.

108 simoom  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:10:59pm

Another from a little while back -- this one was outside a Kentucky Gun Store:

Youtube Video

(WLWT News) Racially Charged Sign Aimed At President

A racially charged sign that takes aim at President Barack Obama is raising eyebrows in northern Kentucky.

The sign is located along Main Street in Glencoe at the Eagle Hill Armoury gun store.

The sign reads:
"Obama complains
- Americans are fat
- Police act stupid
- U.S.A. is a bully
The president is a nagger."

I'm guessing this genius thought he had just enough plausible deniability... no one's falling for it though.

109 Hawaii69  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:11:41pm

re: #107 Picayune

Take it up with Charles, it's his rule.

Yes. It's his rule, and up to him to judge whether it's being broken.

110 Hawaii69  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:14:42pm

re: #108 simoom


I'm guessing this genius thought he had just enough plausible deniability... no one's falling for it though.

"The President is a Nagger" is a takeoff on a South Park episode. Randy was on Wheel of Fortune, and the hint was "people who annoy you". N_GGER was showing on the board.

He chose the wrong vowel.

111 simoom  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:22:01pm

re: #110 Hawaii69

"The President is a Nagger" is a takeoff on a South Park episode. Randy was on Wheel of Fortune, and the hint was "people who annoy you". N_GGER was showing on the board..

Yes, I recall that episode. You do agree though, this Gun Shop owner was deliberately insinuating/suggesting a racial slur with that last line, right?

112 sngnsgt  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:25:16pm

This moron needs a whack upside the head with a clue bat...

113 lastlaugh  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:40:00pm

O/T but still about Racism:

Some NFL Players won't Play for Rush

114 Hawaii69  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 2:50:08pm

re: #111 simoom

Yes, I recall that episode. You do agree though, this Gun Shop owner was deliberately insinuating/suggesting a racial slur with that last line, right?

Sure, I imagine he thought he was being very clever.

Some people really overestimate themselves.

115 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 3:04:06pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

How in the world can that be good for business. What a moron.

Georgia.

116 Danny  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 3:07:34pm

So, you don't like whiskey, Altermite? ;)

117 Altermite  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 3:09:42pm

re: #116 Danny

So, you don't like whiskey, Altermite? ;)

Not after last weekend.

But seriously, I cancelled the (accidental scrolling) downding right after I pressed it.

118 Danny  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 3:11:38pm

re: #117 Altermite

Not after last weekend.

But seriously, I cancelled the (accidental scrolling) downding right after I pressed it.

Ah. I was just teasing anyway.

119 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 3:12:29pm

Attempting to make something that is broke to work again without fixing it is to "Jerry-rig" it. I haven't heard people use that other term in a looong time. To actually use that word on a sign out front of the business means the owner knows it won't hurt business. Nice town there.

120 Charles Johnson  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 3:14:28pm

re: #119 Mich-again

Attempting to make something that is broke to work again without fixing it is to "Jerry-rig" it. I haven't heard people use that other term in a looong time. To actually use that word on a sign out front of the business means the owner knows it won't hurt business. Nice town there.

Actually, the term is "jury-rig":

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

And that link at Wikipedia also explains the origin of the racist version used by that Georgia creep.

121 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 3:21:22pm

re: #120 Charles

Actually, the term is "jury-rig":

Maybe thats the official term, but I've worked around skilled trades for my whole career and witnessed the act in progress many times and have only heard people pronounce it jerry-rigged. A local pronunciation only perhaps.

122 Mich-again  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 3:24:40pm

And the only reason to jerry rig it is if the equipment has to run now and you don't have the right part or tools to fix it. I've seen people come up with some amazing quick-fixes in situations liked that. Its not a skill to be scorned, unless the person does it out of laziness or stupidity knowing someone else will come by later to fix it right.

123 Dreader1962  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 3:34:41pm

Unfortunately, that's not too far from where I live. I'm a transplant from Michigan originally. The previous thread had a claim that Michigan was 'worse' than the south and had a noticeable KKK presence. While there are many decent people down here that would never walk into this guy's bar, the fact of the matter is that I never saw any KKK in Michigan while I was growing up, and never saw a sign like this.

124 Cygnus  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 3:35:47pm

re: #8 Land Shark

Stupid (racist) is as stupid (racist) goes. Hey, what's the big deal? He says he's been using the "N" word all his life! Doesn't he get grandfathered in or something?

///

And he has a manequin dressed in a KKK outfit too. This guy is a prize, man!

The booby prize, I think. What a lowlife.

125 Cygnus  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 3:50:27pm

re: #112 sngnsgt

This moron needs a whack upside the head with a clue bat...

Oh, MANDY! We have a job for you.

126 celticdragon  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 4:09:09pm

re: #40 tradewind

White trash, for sure. This had to be in some Godforsaken hole in the neck of the woods. All you need to know is that the guy admits he's used that word for twenty something years. If he'd had a decent upbringing, his parents would never have allowed him to utter it more than once without washing his mouth out with soap and explaining to him why it was ugly.
Hopefully CNN will spread its net and pick up some of these sights and sounds further North.

Sorry, but have lived in south coastal Georgia for over ten years, I can say I saw this kind of shit more than a few times. I have not seen KKK paraphenlia out in the open, wacko "primitive" Baptist types (you could always tell by the extra long blue denim dresses, no makeup and waist length hair wrt the women) and blatant violent corrupt law enforcement quite like I have seen in Georgia.

It really is like no other place around.

127 rwmofo  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 4:15:43pm

Besides the obvious, this guy apparently hasn't considered the possibility that this sign begs, "Please come thump my head."

128 BethesdaDog  Fri, Oct 9, 2009 7:51:06pm

re: #3 sffilk

As someone who lives in Atlanta, I'm not surprised at the sentiment held by this "person." I see/hear enough of it living down here still.

To put it politely, it stinks.

I'm surprised to hear any of the good ol' boys criticize him. Maybe that's progress. I spent time in the deep south in the '60's and '70's, and use of that word was universal back then.

What's really weird is the fact he was an NAACP member. Go figure...

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132 Diane  Sat, Oct 10, 2009 11:10:26am

Good comments every one. Racism in our free societies, in 2009, is something really hard to understand, but it is true that they are lots of not very intelligent people out there and sometimes, I think more than we think.

If I may, hopefully without boring to death the lizards. - I used to blog a lot before I got all "bloggout". LGF has been the top of all blogs in my list of favorites. Loved the fact that Charles was and still is supporting Israel, offering then particularly, objectivity and moral clarity on international politics when the left had lost its way. As I would loggin LGF in those days, if I was brave enough to comment, I'd get hammered by the extreme religious right. I shied away from commenting in that context or in any place where group thinking would occur. The right has changed, and some sites that I used to like became an ugly platform for racism against Muslims and now, more and more against people of color. This is very very sad. Hatred never goes out of fashion, that is just the human way, I guess.

Note to Charles. In my old and modest blog, the site bar, I am afraid, is full of those sites that used to be good and that are now, just trashy racist ones. I know that many caused you a lot of grief. I am sorry that you had to endured so much. When I will have the time and energy, I will delete those from my blog roll. So, if ever you saw these, don't think that I agree with those people. I despise racism or any prejudice based on color, religion, culture, gender and sexual orientation, as much as anyone here, I realize. I command you for your strength of character and your devotion for some very crucial issues. I look forward to more of your take on the Middle East. Thank you and have a good day.

Diane

133 Diane  Sat, Oct 10, 2009 12:43:36pm

oops, wish I could write in a better English, forgive me for the little massacre of the language in my previous post. :)


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