‘What Up’ Goes Away
Michael Steele’s blog has changed its name from “What Up?” to “Change the Game.”
Too late, Michael. I think the original name has already been noticed. And I thought “change” was now a dirty word … wasn’t it?
Michael Steele’s blog has changed its name from “What Up?” to “Change the Game.”
Too late, Michael. I think the original name has already been noticed. And I thought “change” was now a dirty word … wasn’t it?
1 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:00:47pm |
I am very upset about this. Next thing you know they will remove the life-sized Michael Steele introduction video.
3 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:04:16pm |
re: #2 Sharmuta
The GOP was against "Change!" before they were for it.
now they embrace change like a pay phone...which are now extinct of course
4 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:04:16pm |
What up?
The original name of his blog isn't.
5 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:04:33pm |
A good politician is always keeping his ear to the ground and his finger in the wind.
8 | Randall Gross Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:05:20pm |
I like Michael's attempting to get more youth, hip hop, and inner city minorities involved in the Republican party, but if that's going to be his goal he needs to get someone more hip to help. This was a bit lame.
9 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:05:34pm |
10 | freetoken Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:07:01pm |
The problem with the selection of the "heroes" is that most of them are from the pre-Nixon "Southern Strategy" era. Remember, the GOP was the progressive party until TR left it... and then until Goldwater was a centrist-business party. Nixon's political wisdom of bringing in the racist South was a sure way to remake the GOP into something it wasn't before.
11 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:07:39pm |
re: #1 bratwurst
I am very upset about this. Next thing you know they will remove the life-sized Michael Steele introduction video.
Won't fit on my screen. You must have a very large monitor.
12 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:08:03pm |
re: #8 Thanos
I like Michael's attempting to get more youth, hip hop, and inner city minorities involved in the Republican party, but if that's going to be his goal he needs to get someone more hip to help. This was a bit lame.
notable, but what about me?...mr average flyover pissed off gun owning working stiff...and there are millions like me
13 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:08:25pm |
re: #8 Thanos
I like Michael's attempting to get more youth, hip hop, and inner city minorities involved in the Republican party, but if that's going to be his goal he needs to get someone more hip to help. This was a bit lame.
They need more than hip help. They need to jettison the racists. Not just the high profile ones like Pat Buchanan but all of them. The Tea Party and Republican blogs are full of racist comments. When minorities see this stuff they go away and never look back.
14 | erraticsphinx Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:08:29pm |
re: #10 freetoken
I don't hate a lot of people. But I can unequivocally say that Richard Nixon was one of the most loathsome people who ever lived.
15 | Randall Gross Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:08:49pm |
re: #10 freetoken
The problem with the selection of the "heroes" is that most of them are from the pre-Nixon "Southern Strategy" era. Remember, the GOP was the progressive party until TR left it... and then until Goldwater was a centrist-business party. Nixon's political wisdom of bringing in the racist South was a sure way to remake the GOP into something it wasn't before.
Yes - the Dixiecrats became the Dixiecans, hence we have White Supremacists blogging at Conservative blogs.
16 | Flyers1974 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:09:26pm |
I understand there's going to be a lot of cliches on party websites, but this is beyond bad. From the "What we believe" section - You can be what you are, and become what you are capable of becoming
17 | Sharmuta Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:09:30pm |
Change the Game
I'm so confused. I thought I was supposed to hate change. And hope.
Now what do I do?
18 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:09:34pm |
19 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:10:51pm |
re: #14 erraticsphinx
he caused alot of problems both in the party,and peoples confidence in national leaders.(not that that was all that high before him)when it came out how spiteful and petty he was(he had an enemies list fer crying out loud)
20 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:11:40pm |
re: #17 Sharmuta
hope that things don't change???
22 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:12:24pm |
re: #18 albusteve
...can you snorkle?
I practice when the basement floods. It's just like the tropics only colder and darker with spiders and electricity.
23 | goddamnedfrank Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:12:56pm |
This was the lamest, attempted flail toward relevance since the Itchy & Scratchy & Poochie Show.
24 | astronmr20 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:13:09pm |
Please excuse my French in advance,
But this Republican leadership could fuck up a wet dream.
25 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:13:13pm |
re: #21 streetfighter
Ninja Stick Skills there Charles.
29 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:13:58pm |
re: #16 Flyers1974
I understand there's going to be a lot of cliches on party websites, but this is beyond bad. From the "What we believe" section - You can be what you are, and become what you are capable of becoming
Sweet Buddha on a ricecake. That sounds like a fake motivational poster or something from The Office.
30 | Bloodnok Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:13:59pm |
Dammit. And here I was ready to accept this as the new theme song of the GOP. I'll have to put my cassingle back into the archives.
31 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:14:08pm |
re: #21 streetfighter
That's the point it is charles place.a place to make a comment and if wrong be challenged on it...perhaps one of the echo chambers would be more to somes liking?
32 | Athens Runaway Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:15:25pm |
Thought I'd been banninated, but realized I was typing my name wrong.
How's everyone tonight
33 | erraticsphinx Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:15:59pm |
I cannot wait to see what happens when health care is old news and the immigration bill rolls around.
If you bring loaded guns to health care town halls, what do you bring to the immigration ones?
These people need to get out of the GOP and get on their own crazy train.
34 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:16:27pm |
re: #28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
and another one rubs the dogs tummy...
35 | sagehen Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:16:27pm |
re: #14 erraticsphinx
I don't hate a lot of people. But I can unequivocally say that Richard Nixon was one of the most loathsome people who ever lived.
He was also way, way too lefty for today's Republican Party.
Passed and signed EPA. OSHA. Affirmative Action. Wage and Price Controls. Title IX. Supported the Equal Rights Amendment, and Roe v. Wade. Opened relations with China.
The people who think he governed as a conservative... are only looking at Southeast Asia and the Rehnquist appointment.
36 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:17:12pm |
There seems to be a campaign under way to harass me by sending donations through Paypal for $0.01, with an insulting message. I just refunded the 11th one of these.
37 | Flyers1974 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:17:56pm |
re: #29 iceweasel
Sweet Buddha on a ricecake. That sounds like a fake motivational poster or something from The Office.
How about - Helping those around you is worthwhile.
38 | erraticsphinx Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:18:02pm |
re: #35 sagehen
Yeah, but his overriding quality was being an asshole and degrading the office of the presidency.
And today's GOP would definitely call him a RINO, I'm sure.
39 | Sharmuta Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:19:02pm |
re: #36 Charles
There seems to be a campaign under way to harass me by sending donations through Paypal for $0.01, with an insulting message. I just refunded the 11th one of these.
That was thought up by ChenZhen a few weeks ago. He believes it costs you to take a donation for one cent because of paypal's term, or something.
40 | SpaceJesus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:19:03pm |
I will not rest until a picture of my face is featured as part of "GOP faces" at the top
42 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:19:40pm |
re: #39 Sharmuta
That was thought up by ChenZhen a few weeks ago. He believes it costs you to take a donation for one cent because of paypal's term, or something.
It doesn't.
43 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:19:56pm |
re: #36 Charles
At least you can rest on the knowledge that you give their empty,petty,and sad little lives some meaning...
44 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:20:10pm |
46 | Ziggy Standard Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:20:28pm |
re: #37 Flyers1974
How about - Helping those around you is worthwhile.
"What are YOU like? What you are like says a lot about who YOU are"
47 | Randall Gross Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:21:15pm |
Meanwhile Crazy pam is upset because the courtroom made her delete her photos of Rifqa, a minor at a trial, from her camera. I would wager there are laws about that. So of course she goes godwinian on the poor court clerk, I can see the screechy scene now.
48 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:21:49pm |
re: #41 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A play on a quote from the last thread,someone put up a post that they were rubbing their dogs belly and charles banned them.
guess you had to be there...lol
49 | Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:22:04pm |
50 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:22:11pm |
re: #35 sagehen
He was also way, way too lefty for today's Republican Party.
Passed and signed EPA. OSHA. Affirmative Action. Wage and Price Controls. Title IX. Supported the Equal Rights Amendment, and Roe v. Wade. Opened relations with China.
The people who think he governed as a conservative... are only looking at Southeast Asia and the Rehnquist appointment.
The wage and price controls proved to be dismal failures. Phase One, Phase Two, etc., bah!
He did, however, rescue Israel from extermination during the Yom Kippur war. So let not that good be interr'd with his bones.
51 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:22:18pm |
re: #8 Thanos
I like Michael's attempting to get more youth, hip hop, and inner city minorities involved in the Republican party, but if that's going to be his goal he needs to get someone more hip to help. This was a bit lame.
Yeah. Steele seems to be a pretty decent guy, but hip is not exactly his thing.
53 | SpaceJesus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:23:53pm |
somebody buy me this book please
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
54 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:24:00pm |
re: #47 Thanos
wonder how pam would look in an orange jumpsuit
55 | sandbox Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:24:12pm |
re: #38 erraticsphinx
speaking of RINOs, I don't think Christ Christie is one. I hope fellow NJ lizards are backing Chris.
56 | Randall Gross Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:24:14pm |
re: #50 The Sanity Inspector
The wage and price controls proved to be dismal failures. Phase One, Phase Two, etc., bah!
He did, however, rescue Israel from extermination during the Yom Kippur war. So let not that good be interr'd with his bones.
That's one of the reasons I say I might vote for him again if faced with the same election even knowing what I know now.
57 | Bloodnok Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:24:25pm |
re: #40 SpaceJesus
I will not rest until a picture of my face is featured as part of "GOP faces" at the top
Can you do these? Typical faces by the GOP these days include: The "Flummoxed", the "apoplectic", the "dejected" and the ever popular "bemused".
59 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:24:56pm |
re: #12 albusteve
notable, but what about me?...mr average flyover pissed off gun owning working stiff...and there are millions like me
They assume you aren't going anywhere. Like me and the Democrats. I'm an urban, coastal, college-educated, Jewish, lower-middle-class, pro-choice woman. So they screw Hillary. What am I gonna do? Become a Republican? HAH!
They've got us nailed down, dude. Worst thing we'll do is become independents, and then vote for them anyway.
60 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:25:50pm |
The GOP is so out of touch with reality it is embarrassing.
What up?
Change The Game?
Michael, spend a few hundred bones and hire some teenager to design your web site. Maybe conduct some research on a cool name. How hard can it be?
Oh and just stick to simple things - like the freaking $2 Trillion Dollar Deficit. Or the $14 Trillion Dollar Debt. Don't waste time on the stupid crap such as birth certificates, medals, and Czars.
Keep hammering the assholes and hypocrites who have been welcomed into the administration yet cannot figure out how to pay their fair share of taxes.
Propose a health care plan that makes sense and actually solves the problem of why costs are rising in the first place.
Keep it simple.
61 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:25:52pm |
And now the biggest political morons of all are getting interested:
[Link: www.dailypaul.com...]
62 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:25:54pm |
re: #16 Flyers1974
I understand there's going to be a lot of cliches on party websites, but this is beyond bad. From the "What we believe" section - You can be what you are, and become what you are capable of becoming
OK, if that was on a Democrat's website, no one would ever stop laughing. I'm not sure anyone will stop laughing as it is.
63 | SpaceJesus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:25:54pm |
re: #57 Bloodnok
Can you do these? Typical faces by the GOP these days include: The "Flummoxed", the "apoplectic", the "dejected" and the ever popular "bemused".
was thinking more like the glenn beck, "crying butter ball of insanity" look
65 | cliffster Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:26:37pm |
Sad. It's ridiculous that good conservative ideas get no voice, because of poor marketing. The ideals are not less valid just because the voice is dorky. I guess Madison saw it coming, but that doesn't make it any less sad.
66 | SpaceJesus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:26:49pm |
67 | TedStriker Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:27:25pm |
re: #16 Flyers1974
I understand there's going to be a lot of cliches on party websites, but this is beyond bad. From the "What we believe" section - You can be what you are, and become what you are capable of becoming
Sounds a lot like "We are the ones we've been waiting for"...
///
68 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:27:30pm |
re: #34 Boondock St. Bender
and another one rubs the dogs tummy...
The stalker blog has been complaining that we won't stop using the phrase 'flounce'. Perhaps 'rubs the dog' would be an acceptable substitute.
69 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:27:33pm |
70 | Randall Gross Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:27:50pm |
re: #55 sandbox
speaking of RINOs, I don't think Christ Christie is one. I hope fellow NJ lizards are backing Chris.
Let's get something straight: The Real RINOs back Pat Buchanan, Luap Nor, and the Dixiecrats.
71 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:28:05pm |
re: #68 SanFranciscoZionist
Lets not insult our beloved pets.
72 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:28:20pm |
73 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:28:21pm |
OT: The Panda's Thumb has a roundup of some good evolution videos on YouTube.
74 | webevintage Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:28:22pm |
re: #42 Charles
It doesn't.
Keep the money then.
It will add up and then you can donate it to some organization they really, really hate.
Or go out for a nice dinner...
75 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:28:55pm |
re: #68 SanFranciscoZionist
there you go...not to mention they would scratch their heads about it for a few days lol
76 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:29:16pm |
re: #53 SpaceJesus
somebody buy me this book please
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
Can you not afford it? Or do you prefer others to pay for your stuff?
78 | Flyers1974 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:29:29pm |
re: #46 Jimmah
"What are YOU like? What you are like says a lot about who YOU are"
Check out the "I'm a Republican Because..." section, if you haven't already.
81 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:30:08pm |
re: #65 cliffster
Sad. It's ridiculous that good conservative ideas get no voice, because of poor marketing. The ideals are not less valid just because the voice is dorky. I guess Madison saw it coming, but that doesn't make it any less sad.
AmIdol politics...air time for fringe issues trumps everything else...it's all media driven, feasting on the ignorance of the electorate...I'm pretty cynical these days...I'll just hunker down while everybody screams "toss 'em out of the party!"...they are the party
82 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:30:13pm |
re: #70 Thanos
Let's get something straight: The Real RINOs back Pat Buchanan, Luap Nor, and the Dixiecrats.
I confess: I read that name for days, wondering who the Vietnamese dude was, before the lightbulb came on.
83 | SpaceJesus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:30:15pm |
re: #76 Racer X
Can you not afford it? Or do you prefer others to pay for your stuff?
I like presents
84 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:30:26pm |
What if we matched each penny with a dime or quarter or... (Rich guys say $100) Turn this thing on them
85 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:30:30pm |
re: #61 Charles
It always surprises me how closely some people read LGF.
86 | sagehen Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:30:58pm |
re: #67 talon_262
Sounds a lot like "We are the ones we've been waiting for"...
///
I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and gosh darn it people like me.
87 | st. louisville cards Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:31:26pm |
What am I missing on this subject?
Steele looks to me like any 50+ year old who is trying to appeal to younger people. A bit lame sure, but why the ridicule?
88 | Sharmuta Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:31:38pm |
re: #85 Killgore Trout
It always surprises me how closely some people read LGF.
They seem to really fear the football. Maybe it's because of the archives.
89 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:31:47pm |
re: #83 SpaceJesus
I like presents
Well, you got a birthday coming up in December. Maybe Santa will bring you something.
90 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:32:16pm |
re: #76 Racer X
Can you not afford it? Or do you prefer others to pay for your stuff?
/insert Democrat joke here/
91 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:32:19pm |
re: #7 Killgore Trout
Feel for ya. Only by luck am I not filling sandbags in Tujunga.
92 | Velvet Elvis Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:32:21pm |
re: #53 SpaceJesus
somebody buy me this book please
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
I own it. It's really good.
93 | Randall Gross Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:32:23pm |
re: #87 st. louisville cards
Because of the lame? He's party chairman and needs to be more effective than this.
95 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:32:32pm |
re: #89 Racer X
Maybe it'll be coal, if Obama doesn't bankrupt the coal industry by then.
/his words, not mine
96 | Ziggy Standard Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:33:44pm |
re: #87 st. louisville cards
What am I missing on this subject?
Steele looks to me like any 50+ year old who is trying to appeal to younger people. A bit lame sure, but why the ridicule?
The lameness.
97 | metrolibertarian Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:34:14pm |
I wonder if Glenn Beck, since he's an avowed conservative independent, will do a segment on how the new blog has a picture of Frederick Douglas, whose hair is similar to Karl Marx's, and they use the color red, and communists were known as reds, and therefore the GOP has descended into communism.
98 | SpaceJesus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:35:53pm |
re: #97 metrolibertarian
I wonder if Glenn Beck, since he's an avowed conservative independent, will do a segment on how the new blog has a picture of Frederick Douglas, whose hair is similar to Karl Marx's, and they use the color red, and communists were known as reds, and therefore the GOP has descended into communism.
I like how the GOP has to look back 100 years in order to find anybody who cared about human rights
99 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:36:36pm |
More mockery: Marc Ambinder at the Atlantic
Top Ten Reasons why the GOP Website ReLaunch is fizzlin'
10. In a section devoted to "future leaders," there were none.
9. In the subsequent rush to get up a "future leaders" page, they choose "you."
8. The last GOP accomplishment cited on the accomplishment page was from 2004.
7. The what's up page -- hip! starts with this sentence: ""the internet has been around for a while now"
6. Administrator passwords were accidentally posted.
5. When the RNC hosted a kick-off conference call, the website was down.
4. The website cites Jackie Robinson as a GOP hero. Robinson wasn't a GOPer, and he criticized the GOP on race. Robinson left the party because of its views on race. He had been, as a reader points out, a Republican for many years.
3. The first question on the conference call was from an Hispanic Republican who asked why the GOP site didn't have a Spanish-language page and noted that the White House had one.
2. Bragging about web redesigns is so 2004.1. It's not timed with the start of any major advocacy campaign -- or political campaign. And it portrays itself as something it's not: diverse and ready to embrace new ideas. That may be what the party leadership aspires to, but, at least when it comes to diversity, a few pictures of Hispanics and African Americans doesn't make up for ... well, the history of the party.
Blue State Digital's Joe Rospars says, "You know your web program is in trouble when your site can't even handle the traffic bump from people making fun of your web program."
Holy FAIL, Batman.
100 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:37:10pm |
I think I'll make "Hot Air Comments of the Day" a regular feature at LGF. It's been very popular so far.
101 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:37:10pm |
re: #97 metrolibertarian
I wonder if Glenn Beck, since he's an avowed conservative independent, will do a segment on how the new blog has a picture of Frederick Douglas, whose hair is similar to Karl Marx's, and they use the color red, and communists were known as reds, and therefore the GOP has descended into communism.
Douglass does have hair rather like Marx's. Never noticed that before.
102 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:37:21pm |
re: #97 metrolibertarian
Zactly!teh COMMIES!!!
Fan of the captain of the 12th squad are you?
myself,i prefer kenpachi
103 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:37:56pm |
re: #98 SpaceJesus
I like how the GOP has to look back 100 years in order to find anybody who cared about human rights
Actually you can look back just a few months. Didn't Bush allocate more money in aid to the African continent than any other previous president?
104 | Ziggy Standard Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:38:32pm |
Random musical interlude
105 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:38:48pm |
re: #96 Jimmah
I used to be a chaperon for youth groups from my Church.
There was always a fifty-something "trying to be hip and missing it by a mile" guy or gal there.
One tell was the way that their Levis were ironed.
Mr. Steele kinda has that thing going on here.
107 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:39:47pm |
re: #103 Racer X
Actually you can look back just a few months. Didn't Bush allocate more money in aid to the African continent than any other previous president?
That is a fact. Too bad the GOP didn't consult YOU before taking that turd online.
108 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:40:16pm |
re: #103 Racer X
Actually you can look back just a few months. Didn't Bush allocate more money in aid to the African continent than any other previous president?
Which I thought why he was snubbed by the Nobels.
109 | researchok Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:40:28pm |
re: #98 SpaceJesus
I like how the GOP has to look back 100 years in order to find anybody who cared about human rights
Are you implying that the GOP has a worse record on human rights than the Dems?
110 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:40:38pm |
111 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:41:34pm |
re: #110 TheMatrix31
But George Bush doesn't care about black people
/kanye
if your name is Kayne, probably not
112 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:42:22pm |
113 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:42:26pm |
114 | Achilles Tang Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:43:26pm |
re: #36 Charles
There seems to be a campaign under way to harass me by sending donations through Paypal for $0.01, with an insulting message. I just refunded the 11th one of these.
That is going to cost Paypal more than $0.01 in overhead. Do they have a policy against using their service for harassment?
I suspect more than one of those are selling or buying something or other on Ebay using Paypal. Complain and hit em low.
115 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:44:24pm |
re: #114 Naso Tang
Low and hard. Good thought.
116 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:44:25pm |
re: #106 TheMatrix31
Interesting that the GOP doesn't think that's important enough to list on their "accomplishments" page. Don't you think?
117 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:44:35pm |
re: #114 Naso Tang
Charles got me banned from pay pal...for no good reason!!! lol
118 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:44:41pm |
re: #100 Charles
I think I'll make "Hot Air Comments of the Day" a regular feature at LGF. It's been very popular so far.
They seem to enjoy the attention.
119 | TedStriker Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:44:51pm |
re: #103 Racer X
The problem is that, even to some in his own party, Bush is radioactive (especially to the hard-right nuts...I'm sure they consider him a RINO and worthy of the memory hole)
120 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:45:00pm |
121 | SpaceJesus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:45:10pm |
re: #109 researchok
Are you implying that the GOP has a worse record on human rights than the Dems?
Nope, just highlighting how for a long time the republican party has almost completely switched ideologically from its liberal roots.
122 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:45:13pm |
re: #103 Racer X
Actually you can look back just a few months. Didn't Bush allocate more money in aid to the African continent than any other previous president?
Bush did quite good work with African aid. Is that up on this bleeping website? (Why am I helping?)
123 | Achilles Tang Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:45:20pm |
re: #98 SpaceJesus
I like how the GOP has to look back 100 years in order to find anybody who cared about human rights
That is cheap, just because some jackass wrote a jackass piece.
124 | Randall Gross Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:45:39pm |
re: #116 Charles
Interesting that the GOP doesn't think that's important enough to list on their "accomplishments" page. Don't you think?
But completely understandable as they are caught in the crazy wave of populist isolationism.
125 | bluecheese Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:45:56pm |
re: #116 Charles
Interesting that the GOP doesn't think that's important enough to list on their "accomplishments" page. Don't you think?
yes I do.
126 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:46:02pm |
re: #116 Charles
Interesting that the GOP doesn't think that's important enough to list on their "accomplishments" page. Don't you think?
But school vouchers to learn creationism and Biblical literalism -- that gets prominently featured!
127 | SpaceJesus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:46:12pm |
woops, meant to say civil rights instead of human rights
128 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:46:26pm |
re: #116 Charles
gwb is poison now.they don't have the grapes to display something like that in this current climate.
History will tell a different tale.
129 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:46:35pm |
re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist
Bush did quite good work with African aid. Is that up on this bleeping website? (Why am I helping?)
No. They don't want it there.
131 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:47:44pm |
re: #116 Charles
Interesting that the GOP doesn't think that's important enough to list on their "accomplishments" page. Don't you think?
I think Bush' biggest failure was he failed to appropriately confront his detractors. Add that the GOP turned their back on him and here we are.
132 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:48:40pm |
re: #127 SpaceJesus
actually i wonder what some of the votes on the bigger civil rights bills looked like.
133 | Randall Gross Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:48:43pm |
The crazy wing sold out both Bush and McCain during the immigration bill and confirmation battles. They would have thrown them overboard like Specter if they could have at the time.
134 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:48:48pm |
135 | Achilles Tang Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:48:59pm |
re: #131 Racer X
I think Bush' biggest failure was he failed to appropriately confront his detractors. Add that the GOP turned their back on him and here we are.
Too generalized.
136 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:49:02pm |
re: #131 Racer X
And no, confronting detractors is NOT the same as directly calling out private news companies.
137 | researchok Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:49:20pm |
woops, meant to say civil rights instead of human rights
On that I can agree.
FYI, you might find this of interest, The Missing Years.
138 | Ziggy Standard Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:49:27pm |
139 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:50:01pm |
re: #131 Racer X
I think Bush' biggest failure was he failed to appropriately confront his detractors.
And yet, quite a few LGF commenters were bashing Obama yesterday for doing just that, and calling Anita Dunn a "whiner."
140 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:50:10pm |
re: #128 Boondock St. Bender
gwb is poison now.they don't have the grapes to display something like that in this current climate.
History will tell a different tale.
No, it's because they are pandering to bigots, social conservatives, and the theocrats, and so they don't want to feature GWB's tremendous contributions towards halting the spread of AIDS in Africa and helping people who were already infected.
It involves 1) sex 2) black people and 3) a disease those groups think of as ghey or about divine retribution for sexual immorality of one form or another.
That's why the GOP is in no rush to feature it. Too many of the people they're pandering to don't consider it an achievement. That's the ugly truth.
141 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:50:29pm |
re: #131 Racer X
Nicely said. He tried civility with his close enemies. Didn't do him much good.
But he went full-bore on easing suffering in Africa. I will always admire that part of his legacy.
142 | freetoken Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:51:05pm |
re: #130 TheMatrix31
BTW, I'm not reading anything into the choice of the color red in the GOP website. We are all hardwired by our genes to react to stimuli, in this case color, and in particular the color red.
The prominent use of such strong red on the webpage will, even if not consciously intended by the web designer (though I suspect it was a definite choice), elicit a response on the part of any viewer.
So besides being tacky, the website will serve the purpose of being an emotional stimulant.
143 | Flyers1974 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:51:15pm |
re: #132 Boondock St. Bender
actually i wonder what some of the votes on the bigger civil rights bills looked like.
Me too, someone should compare how liberals and conservatives each voted regarding the civil rights bills.
144 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:51:17pm |
re: #136 TheMatrix31
And no, confronting detractors is NOT the same as directly calling out private news companies.
Oh ... you meant those other detractors.
147 | metrolibertarian Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:51:39pm |
re: #102 Boondock St. Bender
Zakari Kenpachi is my second favorite. Mayuri is a favorite partially for nostalgic reasons, as the voice actor in Japan was the voice actor for Freeza on DBZ in Japan (which my nerd ass recognized without needing to look up).
I'm annoyed they interrupted the Espada vs. Soul Society thing for some stupid side story about the Zanpakuto's fighting their owners in Japan currently...
148 | researchok Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:51:48pm |
re: #140 iceweasel
No, it's because they are pandering to bigots, social conservatives, and the theocrats, and so they don't want to feature GWB's tremendous contributions towards halting the spread of AIDS in Africa and helping people who were already infected.
It involves 1) sex 2) black people and 3) a disease those groups think of as ghey or about divine retribution for sexual immorality of one form or another.
That's why the GOP is in no rush to feature it. Too many of the people they're pandering to don't consider it an achievement. That's the ugly truth.
A policy bought and paid for by the religious Right.
149 | sagehen Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:52:10pm |
re: #131 Racer X
I think Bush' biggest failure was he failed to appropriately confront his detractors. Add that the GOP turned their back on him and here we are.
Bush's biggest failure was trusting Donald Rumsfield over Colin Powell.
150 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:52:15pm |
re: #140 iceweasel
if true,that is a sad commentary on the gop.
152 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:52:39pm |
re: #106 TheMatrix31
Interesting - from your link:
First, a surprise proclamation came on January 29, 2003.I was in the first row in the House chamber when three quarters through his State of the Union address, the president boldly said: "I ask the Congress to commit $15 billion over the next five years ... to turn the tide against AIDS in the most afflicted nations of Africa and the Caribbean" and "lead the world in sparing innocent people from a plague of nature."
And lead the world we did. No president in history had made such a commitment against a single disease. Those words and the action that followed meant that instead of another 30 million people dying from HIV infections, maybe just another 20 million will.
Later that night in an interview for CNN in my Capitol office, I predicted that five years later, this commitment to fight HIV would be the single most significant thing the president said that night. It was.
But even I -- who as physician in Africa had witnessed how this virus was hollowing out societies -- did not predict the huge global impact this Bush commitment would have on generations to come.
In my annual medical mission trips to Africa during the Bush administration, I saw the cost of treatment for HIV with life-saving antiretrovirals (ARVs) drop from $4,000 a year to $125. The number of Africans on ARVs jumped from 50,000 to 2.1 million.
And the multiplier effect of Bush making this a presidential global priority was reflected thereafter in every meeting I had as Senate majority leader with the world leaders, including those from Russia, China and India. If you were dealing with the United States, you'd better have made HIV a national priority, because we had.
And it was more than HIV. Six months ago, Tom Daschle, Mike Huckabee, John Podesta, Cindy McCain and I (yes, we five of different persuasions do work together!) went to Rwanda on a fact-finding trip.
Our visits with villagers all over the country opened our eyes to how Bush's five-year, $1.2 billion effort to combat malaria has provided 4 million insecticide-treated bed nets and 7 million life-saving drug therapies to vulnerable people.
Yes, George Bush the healer.
153 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:53:08pm |
re: #143 Flyers1974
me thinks i got some research to do...
154 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:53:08pm |
re: #131 Racer X
I think Bush' biggest failure was he failed to appropriately confront his detractors. Add that the GOP turned their back on him and here we are.
He was right to take the high road, though. His presidency would have been a never-ending flea hunt, if he had felt compelled to rebut every smear in the monthly glossies, CNN, and NPR. He had bigger tasks to grapple with.
155 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:53:22pm |
re: #142 freetoken
BTW, I'm not reading anything into the choice of the color red in the GOP website. We are all hardwired by our genes to react to stimuli, in this case color, and in particular the color red.
The prominent use of such strong red on the webpage will, even if not consciously intended by the web designer (though I suspect it was a definite choice), elicit a response on the part of any viewer.
So besides being tacky, the website will serve the purpose of being an emotional stimulant.
I don't think it's even remotely that thought-out. They told the designer that the GOP's color was RED, and that was all she wrote.
156 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:54:41pm |
re: #144 Charles
I don't think it's proper for leading officials/heads of government to directly call out specific companies.
If Bush said "You know, there's MSNBC, CNN, Jon Stewart, MTV...these guys have been saying a whole helluva lot of nasty things and you know what, theyre lying bigtime", it wouldn't be a good thing.
If Bush said "There are always different opinions and people taking shots, and of course, that's the way it should be, but I'll let my actions do the talking", then that's better.
157 | Flyers1974 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:55:05pm |
re: #131 Racer X
I think Bush' biggest failure was he failed to appropriately confront his detractors. Add that the GOP turned their back on him and here we are.
Do you mean that Bush personally should have confronted his detractors? Because Karl Rove certainly did, and far better than most prior political operatives.
158 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:55:41pm |
re: #138 Jimmah
You just earned yourself some Laibach :
[Video]
re: #138 Jimmah
You just earned yourself some Laibach :
you know jimmah, I read every one of your posts and I open every one of your links and give them a try...my conclusion is that you are an alien of some sort...this medieval dirge is just more proof...with respect
159 | The Sanity Inspector Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:55:52pm |
160 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:55:59pm |
161 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:56:16pm |
re: #148 researchok
A policy bought and paid for by the religious Right.
Who are responsible for the fact that none of the Bush policies included?...
Condom distribution. They stopped the supply of condoms to organizations that counselled clients on all legal reproductive health options.
Bush gets tremendous credit for what he did in Africa, but he did it despite the religious right, not because of it, and without their influence he very well could have saved even more.
162 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:56:41pm |
re: #156 TheMatrix31
I don't think it's proper for leading officials/heads of government to directly call out specific companies.
And I'm sure you would have said the same thing if Bush had denounced MSNBC -- right?
163 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:57:07pm |
164 | Achilles Tang Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:57:17pm |
I'm travelling tomorrow, so I have to go, but I wanted to say that I don't understand that the GOP has not had a website (I don't travel that way so much). The Democrats have had one for years. I think it's called KOS.
165 | bosforus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:57:23pm |
re: #155 Charles
Charles, I did not think to go a "view page source" on the GOP's "turn on your database" "error page" to see if it was just their own html text. Did you happen to do it?
...turn on your database...
166 | freetoken Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:57:25pm |
re: #155 Charles
btw, Notice you have yet another new flouncer downstairs... the HA post certainly brought them out.
___
I'm not intending to give the GOP/designer too much credit here with the color choice...
167 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:57:37pm |
re: #147 metrolibertarian
yeah,been following it,it wouldn't have been a bad arc for after the aizen confrontation.but now i can't wait for it to end.(been following it on eng.sub)
168 | sandbox Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:57:53pm |
re: #161 iceweasel
I'm sure the EU would have given condoms, if W would not.
169 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:58:06pm |
re: #154 The Sanity Inspector
He was right to take the high road, though. His presidency would have been a never-ending flea hunt, if he had felt compelled to rebut every smear in the monthly glossies, CNN, and NPR. He had bigger tasks to grapple with.
No shit.
A nation in turmoil after a cowardly attack, two wars, many of his opponents openly calling him a liar and a murderer. He handled it way better than I would have.
170 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:58:23pm |
172 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:58:43pm |
re: #166 freetoken
btw, Notice you have yet another new flouncer downstairs... the HA post certainly brought them out.
Two flouncers, actually.
173 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:58:45pm |
re: #162 Charles
And I'm sure you would have said the same thing if Bush had denounced MSNBC -- right?
I just said I would have.
174 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:59:18pm |
176 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:59:35pm |
re: #169 Racer X
No shit.
A nation in turmoil after a cowardly attack, two wars, many of his opponents openly calling him a liar and a murderer. He handled it way better than I would have.
Fuck yeah he did.
177 | TedStriker Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:59:41pm |
re: #140 iceweasel
No, it's because they are pandering to bigots, social conservatives, and the theocrats, and so they don't want to feature GWB's tremendous contributions towards halting the spread of AIDS in Africa and helping people who were already infected.
It involves 1) sex 2) black people and 3) a disease those groups think of as ghey or about divine retribution for sexual immorality of one form or another.
That's why the GOP is in no rush to feature it. Too many of the people they're pandering to don't consider it an achievement. That's the ugly truth.
George W. Bush may have screwed the pooch on a lot of things, but his African aid project is definitely a win and something I think he was very sincere about...too bad his party has apparently decided to make him persona non gratia.
178 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 6:59:42pm |
re: #157 Flyers1974
Do you mean that Bush personally should have confronted his detractors? Because Karl Rove certainly did, and far better than most prior political operatives.
I think he could have done a much better job of promoting himself and his accomplishments.
179 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:00:27pm |
180 | Ojoe Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:00:55pm |
re: #154 The Sanity Inspector
It demeans the dignity of the office to reply to the sniping from the lower levels. I think most Americans know this, and they don't like to see the President replying to radio talk show hosts, etc.
I don't like to see it anyway.
It is to the citizens in general that the President should speak, I think.
181 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:00:56pm |
re: #175 jaunte
Then they'll claw each others eyes out on the way down.
182 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:01:04pm |
If George W. Bush had called out his detractors in the mainstream media like Obama is doing, we would have seen the left wing acting EXACTLY like the right wing is acting now.
183 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:01:40pm |
re: #178 Racer X
I think he could have done a much better job of promoting himself and his accomplishments.
that's not his job...he won a second term, nuff said
184 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:02:37pm |
re: #179 Racer X
Whatever.
I am not sure what the correct explanation really is, but would you care to offer an alternative explanation as to why there is no mention of this on the site? You and I are on opposite sides of the aisle, but we have established that we both give Bush a great deal of credit for this.
185 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:02:45pm |
re: #168 sandbox
I'm sure the EU would have given condoms, if W would not.
If not for the need to pander to the religious right, Bush could have done even more to prevent new cases of AIDS in Africa, by pouring a fraction of our billions in aid into safe sex education and condom redistribution. He didn't, and that was entirely due to the religious right.
This isn't a slam on Bush. He did tremendous, incredible work in Africa and he has yet to really get the acclaim he deserves for it. The left didn't talk about it because so many hated him, and the right didn't because they were ashamed of it/knew it would alienate the bigots and socons in their base. That's the sad truth.
186 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:02:55pm |
re: #182 Charles
If George W. Bush had called out his detractors in the mainstream media like Obama is doing, we would have seen the left wing acting EXACTLY like the right wing is acting now.
True.
Gawd I miss him.
*sniffle*
187 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:03:24pm |
re: #184 bratwurst
Because Bush is somewhat of a poison to the Republican party, due to his or whoever's doing?
It's not "sex, racism, and taboo subjects".
188 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:03:54pm |
re: #185 iceweasel
Good to know that you're there to tell us.
189 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:04:00pm |
to the left,gwb could do no right.to the right,bo can do no right.
190 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:04:17pm |
re: #185 iceweasel
There are bigots on the left, Ice.
191 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:04:20pm |
re: #155 Charles
I don't think it's even remotely that thought-out. They told the designer that the GOP's color was RED, and that was all she wrote.
Well they could always change their color to white.
///
192 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:04:23pm |
re: #184 bratwurst
I am not sure what the correct explanation really is, but would you care to offer an alternative explanation as to why there is no mention of this on the site? You and I are on opposite sides of the aisle, but we have established that we both give Bush a great deal of credit for this.
As to why the GOP site is a mess? I think they honestly have no clue. They have not given it 4 seconds of thought. Pathetic.
194 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:05:25pm |
195 | johnnygriswold Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:05:54pm |
Blog titles and color schemes are the most effective way of going after the GOP. I'm totally on board, dudes.
196 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:06:06pm |
re: #186 Racer X
True.
Gawd I miss him.
*sniffle*
please, the same guy that was willing to sell out the country with his support of that ridiculous illegal alien amnesty legislation?...the same guy that did exactly nothing to secure our borders?
197 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:06:10pm |
re: #185 iceweasel
If not for the need to pander to the religious right, Bush could have done even more to prevent new cases of AIDS in Africa, by pouring a fraction of our billions in aid into safe sex education and condom redistribution. He didn't, and that was entirely due to the religious right.
This isn't a slam on Bush. He did tremendous, incredible work in Africa and he has yet to really get the acclaim he deserves for it. The left didn't talk about it because so many hated him, and the right didn't because they were ashamed of it/knew it would alienate the bigots and socons in their base. That's the sad truth.
Could someone explain to me how being simultaneously opposed to both abortion and birth control makes sense?
While we are at it, could someone explain to me how it is better to have contagion spread then to talk about safe sex makes sense?
198 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:06:11pm |
re: #192 Racer X
"You know... I think it would make us hip like Obama if we had a website." takes six seconds or so to say... so more than four seconds.
But, not much more.
199 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:06:17pm |
re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
There are bigots on the left, Ice.
Look upthread and you'll find me admitting that too. Also many other places.
200 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:06:25pm |
re: #189 Boondock St. Bender
to the left,gwb could do no right.to the right,bo can do no right.
Well I am on the left and I have already stated I think GWB did more than right by Africa.
201 | theheat Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:06:51pm |
The new shiny red GOP site blows mule, especially that sparkly freakin' Flash doodad shit they stuffed in there as a filler. I've seen fishing lures with better aesthetics. It's fug, sparse, it sucks, and they certainly have disregarded Bush's aid and efforts toward Africa (probably because it concerns teh AIDS, sex, condoms, etc. etc. vaginas, lions, tigers, bears, oh my!).
For crying out loud, their American Heroes look like a collector's funeral lobby cards. WTF? How is this supposed to be hip and happenin', when practically everyone they point out is pushing up daisies? Was the last decent Republican really that long ago? Ouch.
And, let's get real, Enimem is more hip than Steele. That's pathetic. They might as well put Pat Boone in leather and call it a day. First graders are more hip than this steaming pile of rah-rah feelgood.
I think Obama hand picked the GOP's creative team to effectively put them out of their misery once and for all, because nothing else under the sun could explain such a complete disaster.
FAIL. FAIL. FAIL.
202 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:07:06pm |
re: #195 johnnygriswold
not going after,pointing out half-assed clueless stupidity...the hallmarks of the current party policy
203 | Coracle Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:07:24pm |
re: #195 johnnygriswold
It's not "going after the GOP". They're doing that job all by themselves.
204 | Bloodnok Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:07:30pm |
re: #190 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
There are bigots on the left, Ice.
And had the topic of discussion been about them she might have mentioned them. Why does every bad thing said about the right have to have a disclaimer that the other side has "whatever it is" too?
205 | sandbox Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:07:35pm |
re: #185 iceweasel
Come on Ice Weasal, the EU, Japan can give out condoms. Bush was trying to keep a coalition of center/right together. It was not and is not easy. I consider myself to be a moderate Republican on social issues, but I understand a large part of the party is not.
206 | jaunte Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:07:38pm |
re: #197 ludwigvanquixote
Could someone explain to me how being simultaneously opposed to both abortion and birth control makes sense?
While we are at it, could someone explain to me how it is better to have contagion spread then to talk about safe sex makes sense?
"In order to maintain an untenable position, you have to be actively ignorant, ... One motto on the show is, 'Keep your facts, I'm going with the truth.'"
-- Stephen Colbert
207 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:08:02pm |
re: #188 TheMatrix31
Good to know that you're there to tell us.
Hey, don't get pissy with me just because you're seething away at Charles pointing some things out to you and you're too afraid to take it up with him.
Sorry to be so blunt, but it's pretty clear that's what you're doing.
208 | TedStriker Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:08:17pm |
re: #185 iceweasel
If not for the need to pander to the religious right, Bush could have done even more to prevent new cases of AIDS in Africa, by pouring a fraction of our billions in aid into safe sex education and condom redistribution. He didn't, and that was entirely due to the religious right.
This isn't a slam on Bush. He did tremendous, incredible work in Africa and he has yet to really get the acclaim he deserves for it. The left didn't talk about it because so many hated him, and the right didn't because they were ashamed of it/knew it would alienate the bigots and socons in their base. That's the sad truth.
You know he had to figure that it was gonna turn out like this for him, yet he supported and pushed his African aid program anyway, to the benefit of millions of people...it really became personal for him, IMO.
209 | johnnygriswold Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:08:22pm |
re: #202 Boondock St. Bender
I'm a very big LGF fan and visit here every day. But this really is laughable. I think there are better discussions to be had. But that's just my opinion.
210 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:08:25pm |
211 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:08:34pm |
re: #196 albusteve
please, the same guy that was willing to sell out the country with his support of that ridiculous illegal alien amnesty legislation?...the same guy that did exactly nothing to secure our borders?
Racist! er, wait.
212 | Flyers1974 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:09:00pm |
re: #132 Boondock St. Bender
actually i wonder what some of the votes on the bigger civil rights bills looked like.
The Senate version of the 1964 Civil Rights Act:
Southern Democrats: 1-20 (5%-95%) (only Senator Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0-1 (0%-100%) (this was Senator John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%-2%) (only Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia opposed the measure)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%-16%) (Senators Bourke Hickenlooper of Iowa, Barry Goldwater of Arizona, Edwin L. Mechem of New Mexico, Milward L. Simpson of Wyoming, and Norris H. Cotton of New Hampshire opposed the measure)
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
213 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:09:02pm |
The nuts are really coming out of the woodwork in the earlier threads.
214 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:09:17pm |
re: #207 iceweasel
I told him that I disagreed with him, and moved on from the point.
215 | bosforus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:09:21pm |
re: #209 johnnygriswold
I'm a very big LGF fan and visit here every day. But this really is laughable. I think there are better discussions to be had. But that's just my opinion.
Then start a blog and discuss them.
216 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:09:23pm |
re: #205 sandbox
Come on Ice Weasal, the EU, Japan can give out condoms. Bush was trying to keep a coalition of center/right together. It was not and is not easy. I consider myself to be a moderate Republican on social issues, but I understand a large part of the party is not.
This was yet another incidence of the party and US policies being held hostage by a need to pander to the religious right. It makes for bad policy.
217 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:09:53pm |
Before bidding thee a good evening, I shall celebrate my 25,000th post by quoting Shakespeare...
"She speaks yet she says nothing; what of that?"
So, "What's up?"
Goodnight my friends.
(not a flounce)
218 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:10:12pm |
re: #200 bratwurst
that was a generalization,people not blinded by ideology can usually give credit where it's due.
219 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:12:01pm |
re: #214 TheMatrix31
I told him that I disagreed with him, and moved on from the point.
Don't get sucked in. It turns every dispute into a "you hate Charles don't you" fest.
220 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:12:33pm |
re: #216 iceweasel
This was yet another incidence of the party and US policies being held hostage by a need to pander to the religious right. It makes for bad policy.
it's fundamental to partisan politics...just consider BO and his problems with his leftist base...spread too thin is a political curse
221 | ~Fianna Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:12:51pm |
Erik over at Red State is suggesting that people mail bags of rock salt to Olympia Snowe over her health care plan vote. link to Erik's post on Red State
At least that's creative and uh, well, not a death threat. Using the link to RS's own Amazon store is pretty clever, too. *eyeroll*
222 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:12:52pm |
re: #205 sandbox
Come on Ice Weasal, the EU, Japan can give out condoms. Bush was trying to keep a coalition of center/right together. It was not and is not easy. I consider myself to be a moderate Republican on social issues, but I understand a large part of the party is not.
Yes, but that is just simply wrong for them to think that way.
OK, I can get being opposed to abortion. I may not agree with the stance, but I can easily see and understand the position.
I can get not wanting to step back as a society from overly rampant sexualization of everything. It is indeed a bit tasteless to say the least.
However, I can not understand putting any religious principle above the overriding principle of saving lives. There is no call whatsoever to restrict use of condoms if it means you are preventing the spread of disease.
Further, if you want fewer abortions the best way to achieve that is to have people use more birth control. There comes a point where common sense and basic reason need to override. There is such a thing as taking the correct moral high ground because it is the right and obvious one to take.
224 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:14:32pm |
PIMF
Yes, but that is just simply wrong for them to think that way.
OK, I can get being opposed to abortion. I may not agree with the stance, but I can easily see and understand the position.
I can get wanting to step back as a society from overly rampant sexualization of everything. It is indeed a bit tasteless to say the least.
However, I can not understand putting any religious principle above the overriding principle of saving lives. There is no call whatsoever to restrict use of condoms if it means you are preventing the spread of disease.
Further, if you want fewer abortions the best way to achieve that is to have people use more birth control. There comes a point where common sense and basic reason need to override. There is such a thing as taking the correct moral high ground because it is the right and obvious one to take.
225 | sandbox Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:14:34pm |
re: #216 iceweasel
IMO, your objection is foolish. You know very well that if condoms were so important the African countries could obtain them--free probably--from other sources.
226 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:15:19pm |
re: #212 Flyers1974
exellent!thankyou. byrd voted agin'it>>big surprise...
227 | Cato the Elder Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:15:40pm |
Defining moment of FAIL.
"What up?" is the GOP version of blogmocracy.
228 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:16:00pm |
re: #204 Bloodnok
And had the topic of discussion been about them she might have mentioned them. Why does every bad thing said about the right have to have a disclaimer that the other side has "whatever it is" too?
It is a recognition of just how similar we all are in terms of human foibles.
And it is more evenhanded and a less confrontational way of carrying on a discussion with mutual respect for your opponent.
What is so wrong with that?
229 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:16:21pm |
re: #217 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
good nite and congrats!
230 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:16:24pm |
re: #225 sandbox
IMO, your objection is foolish. You know very well that if condoms were so important the African countries could obtain them--free probably--from other sources.
Yeah, condoms have nothing, nothing at all, to do with preventing the spread of AIDS.
231 | jaunte Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:17:10pm |
re: #225 sandbox
if condoms were so important the African countries could obtain them
This does not follow, logically. Drinking water (as just one example) is just as important in Africa as anywhere else, but many villages have no water wells.
232 | sagehen Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:17:14pm |
re: #221 ~Fianna
Erik over at Red State is suggesting that people mail bags of rock salt to Olympia Snowe over her health care plan vote. link to Erik's post on Red State
At least that's creative and uh, well, not a death threat. Using the link to RS's own Amazon store is pretty clever, too. *eyeroll*
If they're shipping it to her Maine office, it might be enough to keep her building parking and sidewalks clear all winter. She'll thank them.
233 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:17:20pm |
re: #227 Cato the Elder
Defining moment of FAIL.
"What up?" is the GOP version of blogmocracy.
Not yet, give it time to get riddled with the tea baggers, the Ronulans, the Dominionists and the other more "colorful" sorts.
Then it may well make the normal right wing nut o sphere look tame.
I look forward to spreading butthurt there when the time is right.
234 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:17:22pm |
re: #227 Cato the Elder
Defining moment of FAIL.
"What up?" is the GOP version of blogmocracy.
Which really ought to be named the blog-mock-racy, since they're so eminently mockable.
235 | Flyers1974 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:17:29pm |
re: #226 Boondock St. Bender
As did Barry Goldwater. Also, regarding those Southern Dems:
After World War II, during the civil rights movement, Democrats in the South initially still voted loyally with their party. The signing of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, however, was the last straw for many Southern Democrats, who began voting against Democratic incumbents for GOP candidates. The Republicans carried many Southern states for the first time since before the Great Depression.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
236 | Cato the Elder Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:17:43pm |
re: #228 Spare O'Lake
It is a recognition of just how similar we all are in terms of human foibles.
And it is more evenhanded and a less confrontational way of carrying on a discussion with mutual respect for your opponent.
What is so wrong with that?
Nothing.
But "mutual"? Bring it.
And if my opponent is an idiot, there's no harm in pointing it out. Facts are facts.
237 | TedStriker Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:18:07pm |
re: #209 johnnygriswold
Bitching about the topic isn't going to change the fact that this is Charles' place and we're all just along for the ride...if you don't like the subject matter, wait for a topic more your taste or start your own blog.
/bitch, whine, blah, blah, blah...
238 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:18:13pm |
re: #222 ludwigvanquixote
Yes, but that is just simply wrong for them to think that way.
OK, I can get being opposed to abortion. I may not agree with the stance, but I can easily see and understand the position.
I can get not wanting to step back as a society from overly rampant sexualization of everything. It is indeed a bit tasteless to say the least.
However, I can not understand putting any religious principle above the overriding principle of saving lives. There is no call whatsoever to restrict use of condoms if it means you are preventing the spread of disease.
Further, if you want fewer abortions the best way to achieve that is to have people use more birth control. There comes a point where common sense and basic reason need to override. There is such a thing as taking the correct moral high ground because it is the right and obvious one to take.
I heard an interesting quote today, flipping through the radio dial, talk stations, while I was driving to the supermarket, don't even know who said this, but it's not mine...
"The conservatives wants to get involved in your bedroom and the liberals wants to get involved in every other room of your house. The food you eat, the bulbs you use, the car you drive and so on..."
Clever.
239 | watching you tiny alien kittens are Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:18:37pm |
Wow, the GOP did something sensible and reasonable?
Stop the presses!
"GOP removes stupidly juvenile racial pandering!" Read all about it!
I am totally shocked, really I am...
(What can I say my expectations have become pretty low lately)
240 | ~Fianna Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:18:40pm |
re: #230 iceweasel
Yeah, condoms have nothing, nothing at all, to do with preventing the spread of AIDS.
And, of course, we all know that condoms make people have sex. Just mentioning the word condom anywhere in America causes orgies to break out in high schools across the nation.
241 | Ramona Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:18:45pm |
re: #5 The Sanity Inspector
"A good politician is always keeping his ear to the ground and his finger in the wind."
I'm not sure you have the position of his (Steele's) digit correct.
243 | ~Fianna Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:19:25pm |
re: #232 sagehen
If they're shipping it to her Maine office, it might be enough to keep her building parking and sidewalks clear all winter. She'll thank them.
I was thinking the same thing, actually.
Should save the Maine taxpayers some money on office upkeep.
244 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:19:39pm |
re: #228 Spare O'Lake
It is a recognition of just how similar we all are in terms of human foibles.
And it is more evenhanded and a less confrontational way of carrying on a discussion with mutual respect for your opponent.
What is so wrong with that?
Really. So on every LGF thread that points out leftist idiocy, were you similarly demanding that there had to be some condemnation of the right, for something, anything, just to be 'evenhanded' and 'less confrontational'?
I think not.
245 | Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:19:40pm |
246 | MandyManners Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:19:42pm |
When we've been here ten thousand years
Bright shining as the sun.
We've no less days to sing God's praise
Than when we've first begun.
SING IT LOUD AND PROUD!
247 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:19:53pm |
The religious right is opposed to ALL forms of birth control, and that includes condoms. Any attempt at family planning is thwarting the will of God, in their eyes.
They say this explicitly. It's a simple matter to find examples, from the patriarchal movement to James Dobson to the Family Research Council.
248 | The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:20:00pm |
I'm pretty sure Obama's folks went to school on both Kerry's and Bush's anemic defenses in the face of political attacks. The result is a petty knee jerk response to the slightest criticism; this will not serve him well though I'm sure his advisors would disagree.
249 | jaunte Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:20:04pm |
re: #240 ~Fianna
And, of course, we all know that condoms make people have sex. Just mentioning the word condom anywhere in America causes orgies to break out in high schools across the nation.
Unfortunately good summary of the underlying argument.
250 | Ojoe Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:20:12pm |
re: #235 Flyers1974
Did you know that the Dems voted along party lines against the 13th amendment at one time? (ref: Team of Rivals). They have some karma.
251 | bosforus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:20:17pm |
re: #225 sandbox
Are we talking about the same Africa?
252 | Bloodnok Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:20:23pm |
re: #228 Spare O'Lake
It is a recognition of just how similar we all are in terms of human foibles.
And it is more evenhanded and a less confrontational way of carrying on a discussion with mutual respect for your opponent.
What is so wrong with that?
It had nothing to do with the point being made. It's unnecessary. Are people so sensitive that they need to be reassured that there are similar elements on the other side in every discussion?
253 | sagehen Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:20:25pm |
re: #222 ludwigvanquixote
However, I can not understand putting any religious principle above the overriding principle of saving lives. There is no call whatsoever to restrict use of condoms if it means you are preventing the spread of disease.
Further, if you want fewer abortions the best way to achieve that is to have people use more birth control. There comes a point where common sense and basic reason need to override. There is such a thing as taking the correct moral high ground because it is the right and obvious one to take.
That's because we're of a religion that explicitly says saving lives is a valid, approved reason for breaking any of the other religious rules.
We'll never understand them.
254 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:21:16pm |
re: #240 ~Fianna
And, of course, we all know that condoms make people have sex. Just mentioning the word condom anywhere in America causes orgies to break out in high schools across the nation.
And of course, if no one would ever talk about condoms or sex, no one would ever think of it or do it...
I have often felt that many people on the right - not the politicians, they are getting them - but rather the voters who the politicians pander to, would be much more sane people if they just had someone competent go down on them every so often.
255 | TedStriker Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:21:25pm |
re: #232 sagehen
If they're shipping it to her Maine office, it might be enough to keep her building parking and sidewalks clear all winter. She'll thank them.
Wouldn't that be hilarious? It'll be less money the rest of us taxpayers will have to spend on her office expenses this winter!
257 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:21:55pm |
re: #235 Flyers1974
the 64 convention was also a watershed.one of the southern states actually walked out.
258 | ~Fianna Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:22:14pm |
re: #254 ludwigvanquixote
And of course, if no one would ever talk about condoms or sex, no one would ever think of it or do it...
I have often felt that many people on the right - not the politicians, they are getting them - but rather the voters who the politicians pander to, would be much more sane people if they just had someone competent go down on them every so often.
Not it.
260 | Coracle Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:23:36pm |
re: #259 ludwigvanquixote
Fainna was not volunteering to help out with that, is all.
261 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:24:06pm |
Vasectomy: The gift that keeps on giving.
262 | Ziggy Standard Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:24:12pm |
re: #234 iceweasel
Which really ought to be named the blog-mock-racy, since they're so eminently mockable.
I'm sticking with 'Post-Iceweasel Support Group and Butthurt Aftermath Care Centre'.
263 | Ramona Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:24:30pm |
264 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:25:03pm |
re: #116 Charles
Adding his work for Africa, and contrasting with Obamas Africa's future is up to Africa AKA the Bush money stops now would be nice as the next point.
265 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:25:14pm |
re: #261 Killgore Trout
Vasectomy: The gift that keeps on giving.
If you don't mind burning forever in eternal torment, that is.
266 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:25:28pm |
re: #260 Coracle
Fainna was not volunteering to help out with that, is all.
LOL! I suppose I was not either...
images of Palin giving a come hither...
wilting.
267 | ~Fianna Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:25:32pm |
268 | Ramona Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:25:34pm |
re: #149 sagehen
Bush's biggest failure was trusting Donald Rumsfield over Colin Powell.
If only I was up to 50 comments, I'd upding you.
269 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:25:39pm |
re: #254 ludwigvanquixote
And of course, if no one would ever talk about condoms or sex, no one would ever think of it or do it...
I have often felt that many people on the right - not the politicians, they are getting them - but rather the voters who the politicians pander to, would be much more sane people if they just had someone competent go down on them every so often.
then do the right a favor and volunteer yourself
270 | MandyManners Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:25:41pm |
re: #254 ludwigvanquixote
And of course, if no one would ever talk about condoms or sex, no one would ever think of it or do it...
I have often felt that many people on the right - not the politicians, they are getting them - but rather the voters who the politicians pander to, would be much more sane people if they just had someone competent go down on them every so often.
So, I suppose you are advocating for cunning linguists.
271 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:25:49pm |
re: #262 Jimmah
I'm sticking with 'Post-Iceweasel Support Group and Butthurt Aftermath Care Centre'.
"A place of healing and grief-hole counselling. We will provide you with your very own iceweasel made of rags to holler and sob at. Tissues (ewww) not provided".
272 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:25:55pm |
'johnnygriswold' is getting brave now.
274 | jaunte Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:26:18pm |
re: #254 ludwigvanquixote
It may not be so simple as resentment caused by not getting any; the underlying attitude may be that "people who are irresponsible (not like me) shouldn't be allowed to have sex."
275 | Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:26:22pm |
re: #265 Charles
If you don't mind burning forever in eternal torment, that is.
But all my friends are there!
276 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:26:34pm |
re: #270 MandyManners
So, I suppose you are advocating for cunning linguists.
They were all fired from the Army for being ghey. :(
277 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:26:55pm |
278 | ~Fianna Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:27:37pm |
Props to Linsey Graham for calling out Ron Paul and "angry white guys"
[Link: politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...]
279 | Sharmuta Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:27:49pm |
re: #272 Charles
'johnnygriswold' is getting brave now.
It's take a lot of courage to click the dinger.
280 | Ziggy Standard Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:28:08pm |
re: #158 albusteve
you know jimmah, I read every one of your posts and I open every one of your links and give them a try...my conclusion is that you are an alien of some sort...this medieval dirge is just more proof...with respect
lol. I just realised - you are spacejesus.
Anyway, more Laibach - you'll like this one - it has a good beat, very danceable:
281 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:28:21pm |
re: #274 jaunte
It may not be so simple as resentment caused by not getting any; the underlying attitude may be that "people who are irresponsible (not like me) shouldn't be allowed to have sex."
OK, it is obviously more complex than the simple, snide and I had hoped a little funny joke I made.
The reality I believe has to do with a deep seated fear of female sexuality that has been instilled by endless indoctrination.
282 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:28:23pm |
Wow, flouncers are flouncing all over the place tonight.
Here's where Michael Steele got the idea for "Change the Game:"
[Link: www.google.com...]
284 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:29:05pm |
285 | TedStriker Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:29:14pm |
286 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:29:17pm |
re: #265 Charles
If you don't mind burning forever in eternal torment, that is.
I'm fine with that. They're just going to move me down the hall to a hotter room.
287 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:29:26pm |
re: #270 MandyManners
So, I suppose you are advocating for cunning linguists.
I have found that the ladies in my life have always been interested in better communication.
:)
288 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:29:31pm |
re: #248 The Shadow Do
I'm pretty sure Obama's folks went to school on both Kerry's and Bush's anemic defenses in the face of political attacks. The result is a petty knee jerk response to the slightest criticism; this will not serve him well though I'm sure his advisors would disagree.
So they learned from the the mistakes of those who came before, but are making a mistake in doing so. Got it.
289 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:30:09pm |
re: #247 Charles
Oh those pesky Protestants. A tidbit from Catholic Dogma
[Link: www.catholic.com...]
Excerpt
At its 1930 Lambeth Conference, the Anglican church, swayed by growing social pressure, announced that contraception would be allowed in some circumstances. Soon the Anglican church completely caved in, allowing contraception across the board. Since then, all other Protestant denominations have followed suit. Today, the Catholic Church alone proclaims the historic Christian position on contraception.
290 | Ramona Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:30:55pm |
re: #197 ludwigvanquixote
Could someone explain to me how being simultaneously opposed to both abortion and birth control makes sense?
It makes sense only to the religious wing-nuts, as in keeping 'their' women under control.
291 | Cato the Elder Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:31:32pm |
Couplet Looking in the Mirror and speaking only for himself
Fog is blown by fools who blog
But only God can make a dog.
--Cato MMIX
292 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:32:23pm |
293 | Flyers1974 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:33:28pm |
re: #250 Ojoe
Did you know that the Dems voted along party lines against the 13th amendment at one time? (ref: Team of Rivals). They have some karma.
You mean they all voted against it? Didn't know that.
294 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:33:36pm |
re: #291 Cato the Elder
Love it.
My doG got it backwards. She made some too. Now we got puppies.
296 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:34:23pm |
re: #287 ludwigvanquixote
I have found that the ladies in my life have always been interested in better communication.
:)
it's one way to get you to shut up, I suppose
297 | McSpiff Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:34:34pm |
OT, looks like FreeRepublic is having a harder time with fundraising... Not that I can talk, as a starving student (TM) I've been relying on charles and everyone else's generosity to keep this site going. I'll be fixing that when I have a chance tho!
298 | Ojoe Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:35:28pm |
re: #293 Flyers1974
With few exceptions I think. I will go get the book and look up the passage.
299 | MandyManners Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:35:43pm |
re: #276 iceweasel
They were all fired from the Army for being ghey. :(
So, you don't think that the average American man knows what about a clitoris?
300 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:35:46pm |
301 | Mich-again Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:36:14pm |
re: #290 Ramona
Really? Pretty broad brush you paint with there. How many billions?
302 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:36:31pm |
re: #282 Charles
Wow, flouncers are flouncing all over the place tonight.
Here's where Michael Steele got the idea for "Change the Game:"
[Link: www.google.com...]
Oh please no. Does he even know the lyrics?
Jumpin up outta the Burb', park mode
And 18 inches from the curb
While I'm smellin them stanky stenches from the herb
Red-eyed flight, and I'm lookin for my red-eyed homie
So the GOP is down with decriminalising pot now? Interesting way to leak news of a change of party platform. And this is precious:
All I need n---, is a crew and a point
And I'll make a statement only on a brew and a joint
Not normally considered a plus for a party spokesperson, but oookay...
303 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:37:09pm |
re: #299 MandyManners
the clitoris "natures rubic's cube"...
304 | The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:37:14pm |
re: #288 bratwurst
So they learned from the the mistakes of those who came before, but are making a mistake in doing so. Got it.
Objection to the smallest slight is called an overreaction. Not comely.
305 | Flyers1974 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:37:30pm |
re: #298 Ojoe
With few exceptions I think. I will go get the book and look up the passage.
Wouldn't suprise me if they all voted against it. I'm curious of the voting status of the South's Senators right after the war. I have to check that out.
306 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:37:47pm |
re: #299 MandyManners
So, you don't think that the average American man knows what about a clitoris?
I was making a joke about all the Arabic translators being fired from the Army. For being ghey.
307 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:38:23pm |
309 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:39:24pm |
re: #304 The Shadow Do
Objection to the smallest slight is called an overreaction. Not comely.
Calling the President of the United States a racist exceeds the limits of what I would consider "the smallest slight".
310 | fizzlogic Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:39:49pm |
Aw man, I sort of like that song...
311 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:41:06pm |
re: #308 Right Wing Conspirator
Uh... This is awkward. Yeah, I carried this in from when I subscribed to the LA Times online. And at a few other blogs.
312 | Coracle Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:41:16pm |
re: #299 MandyManners
So, you don't think that the average American man knows what about a clitoris?
"What's wrong with a kiss? No need to go stampeding for the clitoris!"
313 | The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:41:54pm |
re: #309 bratwurst
Calling the President of the United States a racist exceeds the limits of what I would consider "the smallest slight".
Do you really think responding directly to a media moron like Beck somehow elevates his position as President? Seems odd to me.
314 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:42:51pm |
re: #308 Right Wing Conspirator
Hey sorry I stepped on your Nic.
315 | What, me worry? Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:43:41pm |
316 | Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:44:07pm |
317 | Ojoe Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:44:18pm |
re: #293 Flyers1974
"The previous spring (1864) the Thirteenth Amendment had passed in the Senate by two thirds but failed to garner the necessary two-thirds vote in the House, where Republicans had voted aye and Democrats nay along nearly unanimous party lines."
P. 686, Team of Rivals
318 | Coracle Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:44:21pm |
re: #313 The Shadow Do
Do you really think responding directly to a media moron like Beck somehow elevates his position as President? Seems odd to me.
Might have been odd if that's actually what he did. But having a communications director call out the ideology of a network is not the same thing. As discussed (way) downstairs.
319 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:44:51pm |
re: #313 The Shadow Do
Do you really think responding directly to a media moron like Beck somehow elevates his position as President? Seems odd to me.
yesterday I asked what political cred he could earn from this, but nobody answered...personalizing the media has to pay off somehow...what does BO gain?
320 | Sharmuta Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:45:09pm |
re: #314 Rightwingconspirator
Hey sorry I stepped on your Nic.
Imagine my surprise to learn one day there was a 'Sharmutah' registered here years before me. Oops.
321 | Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:45:41pm |
re: #319 albusteve
yesterday I asked what political cred he could earn from this, but nobody answered...personalizing the media has to pay off somehow...what does BO gain?
A distraction from people actually asking about the rest of his agenda?
323 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:46:03pm |
re: #318 Coracle
Might have been odd if that's actually what he did. But having a communications director call out the ideology of a network is not the same thing. As discussed (way) downstairs.
just a head fake...don't bite
324 | The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:46:26pm |
re: #318 Coracle
Might have been odd if that's actually what he did. But having a communications director call out the ideology of a network is not the same thing. As discussed (way) downstairs.
However sliced, it is petty.
325 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:46:32pm |
re: #316 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Thats obvious.
THUNDERDOME!
Two Right Wing Conspirators enter! Only one leaves!
326 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:46:39pm |
re: #321 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
Yep. Distractions are fun!
327 | Randall Gross Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:47:13pm |
Hrmmm. New Weezer stuff at Itunes, but the marketing approach is k'strange.
328 | Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:47:14pm |
329 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:47:35pm |
re: #321 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
A distraction from people actually asking about the rest of his agenda?
indeed...it's...like...rocket science!
330 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:47:54pm |
331 | Coracle Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:48:03pm |
re: #324 The Shadow Do
However sliced, it is petty.
I would rather we talked about things that actually happened than things-that-would-have-looked-bad-if-they-had-indeed-happened.
332 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:48:28pm |
re: #313 The Shadow Do
Do you really think responding directly to a media moron like Beck somehow elevates his position as President? Seems odd to me.
First of all, he did not respond directly.
Second of all, as long as anyone moderate on the right is busy keeping their heads down (lest Rush dub them a RINO), there is likely some value for the administration in reinforcing the right's embrace of the unsavory elements personified by Beck in the consciousness of the silent majority.
333 | Mich-again Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:48:36pm |
re: #197 ludwigvanquixote
Could someone explain to me how being simultaneously opposed to both abortion and birth control makes sense?
While we are at it, could someone explain to me how it is better to have contagion spread then to talk about safe sex makes sense?
First, the church's opposition to artificial means of birth control is based on the assumption that there is a marriage involved. So if someone is sleeping around, it doesn't really apply to them. But its incorrect to simply say the Church is opposed to birth control.
334 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:48:42pm |
re: #122 SanFranciscoZionist
Bush did quite good work with African aid. Is that up on this bleeping website? (Why am I helping?)
Well, I've looked at it now. They're working the historical black angle very hard, but not showing much in the way of contemporary black anything, except for the photo that goes with the school vouchers which is smart. THey'll have to play with it. They need an expanded Latino angle, and they need a Spanish-language version of the site.
The red is intense. I think if they add some other tones it will improve. The five-pointed stars scattered on the fields give it a distinctly Soviet-lite look. They may want to rethink that.
The hagiography of the party is hard to read aloud without laughing hysterically.
335 | Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:48:50pm |
Palestinian Support Wanes for American-Trained Forces
Commanders of the U.S.-trained Palestinian security forces who have been locking up criminals and battling Hamas militants here for nearly two years have maintained morale in the ranks with a single promise: They will one day be the anchor of security for an independent Palestinian state.The lack of progress toward that goal is starting to sap Palestinian public support for the forces and erode morale among troops, even as they win praise and fresh funding from Washington for their accomplishments.
Meanwhile, the more the Palestinian Authority Security Forces cooperate with the U.S. and Israel to suppress Hamas, the more they threaten to undermine popular support for Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas -- who is key to Washington's Mideast peace effort.
336 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:49:25pm |
re: #319 albusteve
yesterday I asked what political cred he could earn from this, but nobody answered...personalizing the media has to pay off somehow...what does BO gain?
I don't think that the White House Media chick (or whoever that was) was thinking of political gain. She was just answering direct questions honestly. The President of the United States is not going to do interviews with Glenn Beck or Alex Jones. They are crackpots and I don't have a problem with them being labeled as such.
337 | What, me worry? Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:50:38pm |
338 | MandyManners Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:51:37pm |
re: #336 Killgore Trout
I don't think that the White House Media chick (or whoever that was) was thinking of political gain. She was just answering direct questions honestly. The President of the United States is not going to do interviews with Glenn Beck or Alex Jones. They are crackpots and I don't have a problem with them being labeled as such.
HER NAME IS ANITA DUNN.
339 | Jack Burton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:51:38pm |
re: #265 Charles
If you don't mind burning forever in eternal torment, that is.
Greatest sermon EVAR!!1! I have memorized this entire rant.
340 | jaunte Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:52:16pm |
Rush Limbaugh is on Fox right now, complaining about being 'tagged' as a racist.
341 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:52:26pm |
re: #321 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
A distraction from people actually asking about the rest of his agenda?
No, Fox news is not objecting to his policies. They are objecting to Death Panels, fascism and FEMA camps. What many people consider "objections" or "Opposing viewpoints" are simply fantasies that are in no way related to reality or Obama's policies. It's nonsense.
342 | Sharmuta Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:52:41pm |
re: #340 jaunte
Rush Limbaugh is on Fox right now, complaining about being 'tagged' as a racist.
Karma's a bitch.
343 | ~Fianna Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:52:57pm |
344 | Ziggy Standard Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:53:08pm |
Deer smashes through window; terrorises restaurant
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]
345 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:53:09pm |
re: #336 Killgore Trout
I don't think that the White House Media chick (or whoever that was) was thinking of political gain. She was just answering direct questions honestly. The President of the United States is not going to do interviews with Glenn Beck or Alex Jones. They are crackpots and I don't have a problem with them being labeled as such.
it's not the reality, it's the perception...and I do not believe BO should do Glenn Beck...he has a multitude of problems to deal with besides sending his minions forth to polish him up, which is what she was doing...it's a trap
346 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:53:17pm |
re: #337 marjoriemoon
OMG The Proof Is Out There.
347 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:53:26pm |
re: #340 jaunte
Rush Limbaugh is on Fox right now, complaining about being 'tagged' as a racist.
If he would only refrain from saying things which many people consider racist, he could easily shrug the tag.
348 | theheat Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:53:37pm |
re: #340 jaunte
He's lucky he isn't being tagged as big game. Such a pudgy whiner. With a mouth like his, he thinks he's being unfairly accused? Get real.
349 | jaunte Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:53:54pm |
re: #342 Sharmuta
I'm not too sympathetic. So he can't buy a $700 million football hobby.
350 | Coracle Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:54:04pm |
re: #340 jaunte
Rush Limbaugh is on Fox right now, complaining about being 'tagged' as a racist.
Someone spraypainted him? That'd be rad.
351 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:54:56pm |
re: #347 bratwurst
That said...I could say that the sky is blue and somebody, somewhere, would construe it as racist.
352 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:55:28pm |
re: #340 jaunte
Rush Limbaugh is on Fox right now, complaining about being 'tagged' as a racist.
who?...Donovan McNabb?...then he deserves it
353 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:56:11pm |
re: #252 Bloodnok
It had nothing to do with the point being made. It's unnecessary. Are people so sensitive that they need to be reassured that there are similar elements on the other side in every discussion?
Yes, I think many are sensitive, but perhaps no more sensitive than you appear to be to these harmless calls for balance and fairness.
354 | Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:57:17pm |
re: #341 Killgore Trout
No, Fox news is not objecting to his policies. They are objecting to Death Panels, fascism and FEMA camps. What many people consider "objections" or "Opposing viewpoints" are simply fantasies that are in no way related to reality or Obama's policies. It's nonsense.
I never said Fox was asking the right questions. They're just a noise machine. Fox has provided an oppurtunity out of their own stupidity,
355 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:57:20pm |
re: #320 Sharmuta
Did Sharmuta post much? I see you kept yours.
356 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:57:27pm |
re: #351 TheMatrix31
That said...I could say that the sky is blue and somebody, somewhere, would construe it as racist.
Only if you said "the sky is blue...and the NFL resembles the crips vs the bloods without the weapons...and oh yeah, the media wants McNabb to succeed because he's black".
357 | Randall Gross Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:57:47pm |
New Five For Fighting album out, here's a sample of one of the songs from Slice, a song called Chances
358 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:57:47pm |
359 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:58:34pm |
re: #356 bratwurst
that was moronic for him to say.
360 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:58:54pm |
re: #325 iceweasel
Solve a right wing theorem?
361 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 7:59:22pm |
362 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:00:15pm |
re: #336 Killgore Trout
I don't think that the White House Media chick (or whoever that was) was thinking of political gain. She was just answering direct questions honestly. The President of the United States is not going to do interviews with Glenn Beck or Alex Jones. They are crackpots and I don't have a problem with them being labeled as such.
Are you seriously suggesting that Anita Dunn was not politically motivated? She is a political tool of the Obama administration, after all.
363 | Randall Gross Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:00:18pm |
re: #358 iceweasel
Banksy's also known for painting anti Israel graffiti on the separation wall, which he calls the apartheid wall.
364 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:00:57pm |
re: #359 Boondock St. Bender
that was moronic for him to say.
in front of 20 million people?...he has no sense of competition or accomplishment...he is so far outside the realm of pro sports, that to say that makes me want an apology personally...what an asshole
365 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:00:58pm |
re: #362 Spare O'Lake
Nah, people from the White House go on TV all the time to make objective responses to questions. Dont you know?
/
366 | TedStriker Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:01:02pm |
re: #342 Sharmuta
Karma's a bitch.
And his habit of throwing red meat comments out to the "base" that can be considered racist may cost him his chance at NFL team ownership, no matter how much money he puts in the deal. Any enemy of Rush has to be loving some schadenfreude there, considering how much of a NFL fan Rush is...
367 | Sharmuta Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:01:16pm |
re: #349 jaunte
I'm not too sympathetic. So he can't buy a $700 million football hobby.
It's a real tragedy, and the potential for rageofauxbia is high.
368 | Jack Burton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:02:43pm |
re: #362 Spare O'Lake
Are you seriously suggesting that Anita Dunn was not politically motivated? She is a political tool of the Obama administration, after all.
Political or not, it's perfectly reasonable for the President of the United States to refuse to give the time of day to Rodeo Clown Conspiracy Theorists who should be on medication, not TV.
370 | soxfan4life Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:03:58pm |
re: #2 Sharmuta
The GOP was against "Change!" before they were for it.
I was for the GOP before I was against it.
371 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:04:01pm |
re: #360 Rightwingconspirator
Solve a right wing theorem?
Given: 1) angle1 and angle2 are right wing angles.
Then: 2) angle1 = 90 degrees, angle2 = 90 degrees. (Definition of right wing angles)
And so 3) angle1 = angle2 (Transitive Property or Substitution Property)
Therefore: angle1 is right-wing congruent to angle2
Yes!
373 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:04:29pm |
re: #132 Boondock St. Bender
actually i wonder what some of the votes on the bigger civil rights bills looked like.
Looked that up. They have a breakdown for the 64 Civil Rights Act on its page on Wikipedia. See below:
Vote totals
Totals are in "Yea-Nay" format:
The original House version: 290-130 (69%-31%)
The Senate version: 73-27 (73%-27%)
The Senate version, as voted on by the House: 289-126 (70%-30%)
[edit] By party
The original House version:[9]
Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)
Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)
The Senate version:[9]
Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%-31%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:[9]
Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%)
Republican Party: 136-35 (80%-20%)
[edit] By party and region
Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.
The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)
Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)
The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1-20 (5%-95%) (only Senator Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0-1 (0%-100%) (this was Senator John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%-2%) (only Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia opposed the measure)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%-16%) (Senators Bourke Hickenlooper of Iowa, Barry Goldwater of Arizona, Edwin L. Mechem of New Mexico, Milward L. Simpson of Wyoming, and Norris H. Cotton of New Hampshire opposed the measure)
374 | Ziggy Standard Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:04:40pm |
Spare O Lake why did you downding #271? Got a problem with mocking 2.0?
375 | lostlakehiker Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:05:29pm |
re: #140 iceweasel
No, it's because they are pandering to bigots, social conservatives, and the theocrats, and so they don't want to feature GWB's tremendous contributions towards halting the spread of AIDS in Africa and helping people who were already infected.
It involves 1) sex 2) black people and 3) a disease those groups think of as ghey or about divine retribution for sexual immorality of one form or another.
That's why the GOP is in no rush to feature it. Too many of the people they're pandering to don't consider it an achievement. That's the ugly truth.
The Christian churches in America are, many of them, intent on helping in Africa. It's a place that needs help and that can be helped. Canada doesn't need help, and nothing churches here can do can help Myanmar or North Korea.
A single church can pick a single village or rural community and go to work helping fix some small problem. The theory is, it all adds up. Maybe it does. In any case, these churches are hardly full of bigots or theocrats. They're just good people trying to help. From a secular humanist point of view, that ought to earn kudos. From a Christian point of view, it's good works.
376 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:05:37pm |
377 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:06:47pm |
re: #372 Windhorse
bratwurst... just curious (and forgive me if this has been discussed) but, from whence do you hail? (it's the nickname that makes me wonder)
I am a son of the American midwest residing temporarily in New Orleans, but spent much of the last decade residing in Germany, from whence I get my nickname and avatar.
378 | reine.de.tout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:08:01pm |
re: #353 Spare O'Lake
Yes, I think many are sensitive, but perhaps no more sensitive than you appear to be to these harmless calls for balance and fairness.
It's been painful, painful, to see what is happening within the GOP.
I'm sure many here have been as bewildered and flummoxed as I have.
What we need, in my opinion - as little governmental intrusion as possible into our lives and business - then we can each live as conservatively or as liberally as we want to.
But the bottom line for right now - the Dems have power, and the GOP is just failing in every way to make sense or do anything that will advance governmental conservatism. As I read through the thread, the point has been made over and over that the social conservatives have taken control of the GOP.
We could talk about Chris Matthews and what he said about Rush Limbaugh, but I think Rush can take care of himself . . . it's the GOP that needs a good intervention or a whack upside the head. And talking about what the the media is doing, or whether Obama takes Michelle to NYC on a "date", is not going to fix the GOP.
379 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:08:38pm |
380 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:08:47pm |
re: #376 Spare O'Lake
You think not.
Ah, an insult. In other words, you can't disprove my claim, or defend against it except by insulting me...and curiously enough, downdinging posts by me that are critical of the stalker blog.
Why is that?
381 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:09:00pm |
re: #375 lostlakehiker
The local churches were critical after Katrina. Good works indeed.
382 | Mich-again Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:09:10pm |
The NFL should not allow Rush Limbaugh as a franchise owner. Nothing good can come out of that. Tell him to go buy a hockey team in Phoenix or something..
384 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:10:10pm |
385 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:10:45pm |
re: #225 sandbox
IMO, your objection is foolish. You know very well that if condoms were so important the African countries could obtain them--free probably--from other sources.
Learn something about the situation on the ground fighting AIDS transmission in Africa and then come back to us, OK?
386 | Ojoe Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:11:02pm |
re: #333 Mich-again
The church opposes "artificial" birth control.
387 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:11:04pm |
re: #383 Windhorse
cool... I respect all things "bratwurst"...
:)
An obvious individual of good taste. ;-)
388 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:11:07pm |
re: #368 ArchangelMichael
Political or not, it's perfectly reasonable for the President of the United States to refuse to give the time of day to Rodeo Clown Conspiracy Theorists who should be on medication, not TV.
It is a sign of weakness and smallness.
389 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:11:12pm |
re: #367 Sharmuta
It's a real tragedy, and the potential for rageofauxbia is high.
750 mil is a hell of a deal...there are only 32 NFL teams and to own one is a dream come true for a business/fan...it's a very rare opportunity to get involved with ownership...that said I hope he really drooled for it and now he's shut out...it's his own fault, owners amd players and fans have trashed him and he deserves all of it...Rush is nobody to the NFL, he can't have just anything money can buy...fuck him...twice
390 | Coracle Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:12:31pm |
re: #388 Spare O'Lake
It is a sign of weakness and smallness.
Yes, because ignoring it works so well.
391 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:12:33pm |
re: #247 Charles
The religious right is opposed to ALL forms of birth control, and that includes condoms. Any attempt at family planning is thwarting the will of God, in their eyes.
They say this explicitly. It's a simple matter to find examples, from the patriarchal movement to James Dobson to the Family Research Council.
Not to mention Quiverfull!
392 | TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:12:47pm |
Gonna go grab some ice cream or Starbucks or something, be back later.
393 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:13:24pm |
re: #391 SanFranciscoZionist
Not to mention Quiverfull!
Absolutely. The Quiverfull movement is one of the most radical examples of this kind of fanaticism.
395 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:15:34pm |
re: #390 Coracle
Yes, because ignoring it works so well.
he can run the govt...his critics will eat crow if he will man up and lead...that's the point
396 | sandbox Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:15:36pm |
re: #385 SanFranciscoZionist
Clarification: I am fine with giving out condoms to fight aids and for contraception in Africa. All I was trying to say is if the USA did not provide same during the Bush Administration, then surely condoms could be obtained from other sources.
397 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:17:29pm |
re: #391 SanFranciscoZionist
oh goodness i gotta ask who are these characters?
398 | Coracle Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:17:32pm |
re: #395 albusteve
he can run the govt...his critics will eat crow if he will man up and lead...that's the point
No. We've already seen what they'll do - double down and amp up the shrillness. Same as happened for Bush and Clinton.
399 | Jack Burton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:18:23pm |
re: #388 Spare O'Lake
It is a sign of weakness and smallness.
Ignoring whackos? What planet are you from?
Or are Glnn Bck, Alex Jones, and their ilk not kooks to you?
400 | Ziggy Standard Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:19:43pm |
Spare O Lake refuses to answer questions about his downdinging of posts critical of 2.0. Interesting.
401 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:20:04pm |
re: #398 Coracle
No. We've already seen what they'll do - double down and amp up the shrillness. Same as happened for Bush and Clinton.
well then get down in the dirt and slug it out by all means...I really don't care for it...what's to be gained?...juice inside the beltway?
402 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:20:15pm |
Gaza zoo replaces zebras with painted donkeys
Zebras died of hunger earlier this year during the Israel-Hamas war.
Gaza City zookeepers have found a creative way of drawing crowds to their dilapidated zoo — by painting their donkeys. The Marah Land Zoo's only two zebras died of hunger earlier this year when they were neglected during the Israel-Hamas war.
The popular animals were too expensive to replace, so the keepers decided to design a pair of donkeys with black and white patterns instead.
Ahmad Barghouti says a professional painter used French-manufactured hair coloring to make the donkeys look like zebras.
403 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:20:18pm |
re: #333 Mich-again
First, the church's opposition to artificial means of birth control is based on the assumption that there is a marriage involved. So if someone is sleeping around, it doesn't really apply to them. But its incorrect to simply say the Church is opposed to birth control.
I never said that about the Church per se. The last time I checked, they were not the one's driving the GOP religious right in America.
404 | fizzlogic Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:20:32pm |
I think the fletcher would call them quiverfools.
405 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:20:33pm |
re: #384 bratwurst
Did you get the bad US Soccer news?
[Link: yanks-abroad.com...]
Yes. A 3:15 AM wreck on the GW Parkway. Three people in the car. One dead. A lovely young woman, a University of Maryland graduate.
[Link: www.zimbio.com...]
It wasn't *on* the memorial Bridge, but under it. I know that stretch, and it is tortuous. Not something one would do on a clear Saturday morning when sober. Not that neither Charlie nor Ashley were driving.
Damned shame. I am glad he will recover, but with those injuries, I doubt he will play again at that level.
406 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:20:58pm |
re: #373 SanFranciscoZionist
Looked that up. They have a breakdown for the 64 Civil Rights Act on its page on Wikipedia. See below:
Vote totals
Totals are in "Yea-Nay" format:The original House version: 290-130 (69%-31%)
The Senate version: 73-27 (73%-27%)
The Senate version, as voted on by the House: 289-126 (70%-30%)
[edit] By party
The original House version:[9]Democratic Party: 152-96 (61%-39%)
Republican Party: 138-34 (80%-20%)The Senate version:[9]
Democratic Party: 46-21 (69%-31%)
Republican Party: 27-6 (82%-18%)The Senate version, voted on by the House:[9]
Democratic Party: 153-91 (63%-37%)
Republican Party: 136-35 (80%-20%)[edit] By party and region
Note: "Southern", as used in this section, refers to members of Congress from the eleven states that made up the Confederate States of America in the American Civil War. "Northern" refers to members from the other 39 states, regardless of the geographic location of those states.The original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)
Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1-20 (5%-95%) (only Senator Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
Southern Republicans: 0-1 (0%-100%) (this was Senator John Tower of Texas)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%-2%) (only Senator Robert Byrd of West Virginia opposed the measure)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%-16%) (Senators Bourke Hickenlooper of Iowa, Barry Goldwater of Arizona, Edwin L. Mechem of New Mexico, Milward L. Simpson of Wyoming, and Norris H. Cotton of New Hampshire opposed the measure)
Thank you for looking this up. I wish Sattv could see this.
407 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:21:32pm |
re: #393 Charles
Absolutely. The Quiverfull movement is one of the most radical examples of this kind of fanaticism.
And is being amply represented by the Duggar family.
408 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:21:35pm |
re: #400 Jimmah
Spare O Lake refuses to answer questions about his downdinging of posts critical of 2.0. Interesting.
I think it is so cute how you stick up for your big sister.
409 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:21:45pm |
re: #402 Racer X
Thats just so apropo.
410 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:22:33pm |
re: #402 Racer X
Gaza zoo replaces zebras with painted donkeys
Zebras died of hunger earlier this year during the Israel-Hamas war.
Gaza City zookeepers have found a creative way of drawing crowds to their dilapidated zoo — by painting their donkeys. The Marah Land Zoo's only two zebras died of hunger earlier this year when they were neglected during the Israel-Hamas war.
The popular animals were too expensive to replace, so the keepers decided to design a pair of donkeys with black and white patterns instead.
Ahmad Barghouti says a professional painter used French-manufactured hair coloring to make the donkeys look like zebras.
I am wondering when the Hamas mickey or bee or whatever comes to abuse them.
411 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:22:37pm |
re: #393 Charles
Absolutely. The Quiverfull movement is one of the most radical examples of this kind of fanaticism.
Their theme song:
412 | Coracle Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:22:51pm |
re: #401 albusteve
well then get down in the dirt and slug it out by all means...I really don't care for it...what's to be gained?...juice inside the beltway?
It would be kind of nice to have a news organization look in the mirror and try to recover its integrity.
413 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:22:59pm |
414 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:23:42pm |
re: #380 iceweasel
Ah, an insult. In other words, you can't disprove my claim, or defend against it except by insulting me...and curiously enough, downdinging posts by me that are critical of the stalker blog.
Why is that?
If you really must know, I will tell you. I downdinged your use of foul language. Nothing to do with the sewer.
415 | Coracle Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:24:33pm |
re: #414 Spare O'Lake
If you really must know, I will tell you. I downdinged your use of foul language. Nothing to do with the sewer.
Well, shit.
416 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:24:37pm |
re: #405 austin_blue
The post-surgery update is slightly more encouraging, but there is no chance he will play competitive football before 2011, if ever. He is lucky to be alive. His lady friend was sadly not so lucky. Will be an emotional night at RFK tomorrow.
417 | Mich-again Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:25:00pm |
re: #386 Ojoe
The church opposes "artificial" birth control.
I know that. But I saw a few posts in the thread where that key adjective was left out and I wanted to clarify that. It falls under the "You can have your own opinions, but you can't have your own facts" file.
418 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:25:10pm |
re: #396 sandbox
Clarification: I am fine with giving out condoms to fight aids and for contraception in Africa. All I was trying to say is if the USA did not provide same during the Bush Administration, then surely condoms could be obtained from other sources.
You're assuming a level of organization and resources and education not available to many of the countries U.S. support went to. Which is why we needed to provide that support. We were crippled in our ability to provide education and effective protection in Africa by our own zealots at home, and it's not actually like the countries we were in had a health clinic on each corner and just needed to order a couple million crates of condoms. If we weren't giving them out, often wasn't nobody giving them out.
419 | Jack Burton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:25:16pm |
re: #402 Racer X
Why does Gaza have a zoo in the first place? Gaza City is about the size of the parking lot of the Grocery store in my neighborhood. Don't they have more important things to spend money on than taking care of a bunch of wild animals?
420 | Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:25:48pm |
421 | Ziggy Standard Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:25:51pm |
re: #408 Racer X
I think it is so cute how you stick up for your big sister.
I think it's great how you just exposed how small minded you are there. Please continue.
422 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:26:10pm |
re: #419 ArchangelMichael
Buy rockets!
423 | Boondock St. Bender Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:26:30pm |
re: #419 ArchangelMichael
or apparently not taking care of them
424 | Bloodnok Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:26:31pm |
re: #414 Spare O'Lake
If you really must know, I will tell you. I downdinged your use of foul language. Nothing to do with the sewer.
Fetch the salts! Stat!
425 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:26:47pm |
re: #397 Boondock St. Bender
oh goodness i gotta ask who are these characters?
Quiverfull. Have as many babies as God sends. Birth control may kill you. Boy, aren't the Duggars just a wholesome all-American bunch?
426 | Bagua Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:27:08pm |
427 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:27:20pm |
re: #425 SanFranciscoZionist
Quiverfull. Have as many babies as God sends. Birth control may kill you. Boy, aren't the Duggars just a wholesome all-American bunch?
OK I just wiki'd them.
I have the following response.
[Link: www.flickr.com...]
428 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:27:31pm |
430 | Ojoe Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:27:48pm |
re: #417 Mich-again
People misinterpret the Church all the time. But hey, it doesn't care. It has a sort of bovine imperturbability. LOL.
431 | Coracle Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:27:57pm |
432 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:28:03pm |
re: #400 Jimmah
Spare O Lake refuses to answer questions about his downdinging of posts critical of 2.0. Interesting.
No calling people out on Tuesday night. You kids play nice.
433 | Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:28:10pm |
434 | Randall Gross Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:28:45pm |
If you scroll way down in the wiki article to the notable adherents section it will be an eye opener.
435 | Ziggy Standard Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:28:47pm |
re: #414 Spare O'Lake
If you really must know, I will tell you. I downdinged your use of foul language. Nothing to do with the sewer.
Bollocks. Please indicate the foul language in the post you downdinged. Here is the text:
"A place of healing and grief-hole counselling. We will provide you with your very own iceweasel made of rags to holler and sob at. Tissues (ewww) not provided".
Please reply, with the 'foul language' you are referring to in bold.
436 | Bagua Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:29:41pm |
re: #431 Coracle
It rarely does. But sometimes its funny.
Yes sometimes, but it is easy to become a swear blog. I too have down dinged solely for profanity, not when it is funny like that but when used in insults.
437 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:29:57pm |
re: #402 Racer X
Gaza zoo replaces zebras with painted donkeys
Zebras died of hunger earlier this year during the Israel-Hamas war.
Gaza City zookeepers have found a creative way of drawing crowds to their dilapidated zoo — by painting their donkeys. The Marah Land Zoo's only two zebras died of hunger earlier this year when they were neglected during the Israel-Hamas war.
The popular animals were too expensive to replace, so the keepers decided to design a pair of donkeys with black and white patterns instead.
Ahmad Barghouti says a professional painter used French-manufactured hair coloring to make the donkeys look like zebras.
A few years ago, they had a lion stolen out of the zoo by militants of some kind. And then they had the weird 'don't be cruel to animals' thing on Hamas TV. Someone could write one hell of a novel about the Gaza zoo.
438 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:30:00pm |
re: #412 Coracle
It would be kind of nice to have a news organization look in the mirror and try to recover its integrity.
yes it would, but that is beyond the presidents control...I blame the mindset of the viewers themselves...the MSM is Americas worst enemy, and because of TV news junkies they are laughing all the way to the bank...steering the political agenda is just icing on their cake...I wish that all presidents would rise above it...but I don't discount your point of view...that too is legit to a degree
439 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:30:02pm |
re: #433 Kragar (proud to be kafir)
YOU RUINED IT!
Please, no down dings. I am just genetically incapable of not smacking a softball out of the park when I see it pitched.
(((humbly apologizes)))
440 | Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:30:27pm |
re: #421 Jimmah
I think it's great how you just exposed how small minded you are there. Please continue.
LOL!
Sure was a great demonstration by me wasn't it? You sure pwned me boy.
*slinks off to weep*
441 | Ziggy Standard Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:30:57pm |
re: #432 SanFranciscoZionist
No calling people out on Tuesday night. You kids play nice.
Sorry, but I don't recognise "Hey, just let it pass when people bullshit at you Tuesday". :)
443 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:31:19pm |
Seven hate mails so far tonight. Three of them used some variation of "you've really jumped the shark now, Chuckie! Hahahahahaha!"
444 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:31:43pm |
re: #378 reine.de.tout
It's been painful, painful, to see what is happening within the GOP.
I'm sure many here have been as bewildered and flummoxed as I have.
What we need, in my opinion - as little governmental intrusion as possible into our lives and business - then we can each live as conservatively or as liberally as we want to.
But the bottom line for right now - the Dems have power, and the GOP is just failing in every way to make sense or do anything that will advance governmental conservatism. As I read through the thread, the point has been made over and over that the social conservatives have taken control of the GOP.
We could talk about Chris Matthews and what he said about Rush Limbaugh, but I think Rush can take care of himself . . . it's the GOP that needs a good intervention or a whack upside the head. And talking about what the the media is doing, or whether Obama takes Michelle to NYC on a "date", is not going to fix the GOP.
I agree with what you have just said, but I have trouble understanding what it has to do with my comment.
445 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:31:55pm |
re: #435 Jimmah
Please reply, with the 'foul language' you are referring to in bold.
Maybe it was Fowl language?
No?
Hey, Krager, what's a Henweigh?
;-)
446 | Randall Gross Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:32:11pm |
re: #443 Charles
Seven hate mails so far tonight. Three of them used some variation of "you've really jumped the shark now, Chuckie! Hahahahahaha!"
When they do the "chuckie" thing you know who it is.
447 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:32:14pm |
re: #443 Charles
Seven hate mails so far tonight. Three of them used some variation of "you've really jumped the shark now, Chuckie! Hahahahahaha!"
On a particular subject, or just a general shark jumping?
448 | Ojoe Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:32:24pm |
re: #438 albusteve
Yes, the behavior of the media is shaped by the people who watch, and do not have the dignity or sense to hit the off button.
449 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:32:37pm |
450 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:33:04pm |
re: #443 Charles
Seven hate mails so far tonight. Three of them used some variation of "you've really jumped the shark now, Chuckie! Hahahahahaha!"
I truly believe that you should have a hate mail greatest hits page somewhere. Sane people will giggle and crazy people will give you vast traffic looking to see if they got posted.
451 | Bagua Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:33:09pm |
re: #432 SanFranciscoZionist
No calling people out on Tuesday night. You kids play nice.
I'm with you.
452 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:33:14pm |
re: #419 ArchangelMichael
Why does Gaza have a zoo in the first place? Gaza City is about the size of the parking lot of the Grocery store in my neighborhood. Don't they have more important things to spend money on than taking care of a bunch of wild animals?
I suspect there's a story behind it. Who could tell it to us, God knows.
453 | reine.de.tout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:33:15pm |
re: #444 Spare O'Lake
I agree with what you have just said, but I have trouble understanding what it has to do with my comment.
I guess - things have a proper place and time.
that's all.
454 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:33:45pm |
455 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:33:50pm |
re: #446 Thanos
When they do the "chuckie" thing you know who it is.
Bad horror movie afficianados? No?
Hmmm...
456 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:34:50pm |
457 | Bagua Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:35:06pm |
re: #454 LudwigVanQuixote
Did you see the olive branch I wrote you about five days ago?
Yes I did, I appreciate the sentiment.
458 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:35:13pm |
re: #452 SanFranciscoZionist
I suspect there's a story behind it. Who could tell it to us, God knows.
Oh the story is easy... Europeans funded it and then the funds to maintain it were taken by corrupt PA and then Hamasnicks for their war efforts.
The Palis receive more financial aid per capita than any other people on the planet, and yet, it never seems to go where it was intended.
460 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:35:49pm |
re: #449 Rightwingconspirator
Cluck
Cluck
CluckCoq Au Vin
Cock in Red Wine?
Well! I suppose that *is* filthy!
I never!!!
461 | Ojoe Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:35:49pm |
462 | reine.de.tout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:36:00pm |
re: #450 LudwigVanQuixote
I truly believe that you should have a hate mail greatest hits page somewhere. Sane people will giggle and crazy people will give you vast traffic looking to see if they got posted.
There's one about self-subservient honcos that made it into Volume 2 of the Cookbook.
Oh hey everybody - there's a cookbook!
There's a volume 1, click my nic and you can purchase your very own copy!
And Volume 2 is in the works!
(shameless attempt to change the subject).
463 | Mich-again Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:36:13pm |
re: #402 Racer X
Gaza zoo replaces zebras with painted donkeys
I read that during the last war in Gaza the Hamas night shift lookout guy crowed like a rooster over the mosque loud speakers to send coded messages.
/
464 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:36:55pm |
re: #462 reine.de.tout
We should talk about a few recipes I could let you have...
465 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:37:08pm |
re: #414 Spare O'Lake
If you really must know, I will tell you. I downdinged your use of foul language. Nothing to do with the sewer.
That was completely believable, Emily Post.
Except that 1) I didn't use any foul language and
2) I have this idea you didn't faint dead away or downding any of the many, many people on this blog who called the president a "fucking commie bastard: -- habitually.
466 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:37:11pm |
First the Jews were the Jews. Then the Muslims were the Jews. Now the nuts are the Jews...
Glenn Beck Compares Fox News To Jews During Holocaust (AUDIO)
Somebody let me know when the atheists get to be to Jews. I've got the gravlax down but I need time to work on my matza balls.
467 | Mich-again Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:37:13pm |
re: #419 ArchangelMichael
Why does Gaza have a zoo in the first place? Gaza City is about the size of the parking lot of the Grocery store in my neighborhood.
Its like 15 square miles with maybe 400,000 residents.
468 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:37:26pm |
re: #448 Ojoe
Yes, the behavior of the media is shaped by the people who watch, and do not have the dignity or sense to hit the off button.
most voters are apolitical...when it comes time to vote, they are uninformed and vote for hair, or a suit, or whatever...not all of them but way too many
469 | reine.de.tout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:37:47pm |
re: #464 Rightwingconspirator
We should talk about a few recipes I could let you have...
If you're gonna do it, do it quickly.
The pages are being put together as we write.
The e-mail address to send them is at the cookbook blog, which is where you'll go if you click my nic.
470 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:38:04pm |
re: #466 Killgore Trout
First the Jews were the Jews. Then the Muslims were the Jews. Now the nuts are the Jews...
Glenn Beck Compares Fox News To Jews During Holocaust (AUDIO)Somebody let me know when the atheists get to be to Jews. I've got the gravlax down but I need time to work on my matza balls.
You would think that with the number of people who want to be us, we would be more popular.
471 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:39:02pm |
re: #435 Jimmah
Please reply, with the 'foul language' you are referring to in bold.
I wasn't talking to you, creep.
472 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:39:15pm |
re: #458 LudwigVanQuixote
Oh the story is easy... Europeans funded it and then the funds to maintain it were taken by corrupt PA and then Hamasnicks for their war efforts.
The Palis receive more financial aid per capita than any other people on the planet, and yet, it never seems to go where it was intended.
Why did Europeans think Gaza needed a zoo? (OK, I can just about guess, but dear God, a ZOO?)
473 | avanti Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:39:25pm |
re: #435 Jimmah
Please reply, with the 'foul language' you are referring to in bold.
For crying out loud, maybe he just does not care for the poster, no matter the post. I didn't almost get to minus 2000 because I was popular. Many will be down dinged for a "Good morning Lizards" , deal with it, it's a conservative 1st amendment right to ding down.
Hell, TFK took advantage of that right on most every post I made, and I lived through it. :)
474 | McSpiff Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:40:04pm |
475 | Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:40:12pm |
re: #466 Killgore Trout
First the Jews were the Jews. Then the Muslims were the Jews. Now the nuts are the Jews...
Glenn Beck Compares Fox News To Jews During Holocaust (AUDIO)Somebody let me know when the atheists get to be to Jews. I've got the gravlax down but I need time to work on my matza balls.
The silver haired gopher has gone crackers.
476 | Bagua Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:40:20pm |
477 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:41:20pm |
re: #466 Killgore Trout
First the Jews were the Jews. Then the Muslims were the Jews. Now the nuts are the Jews...
Glenn Beck Compares Fox News To Jews During Holocaust (AUDIO)Somebody let me know when the atheists get to be to Jews. I've got the gravlax down but I need time to work on my matza balls.
The secret is to use almost double the amount of oil the recipe on the box calls for. Simmer on a nice low heat at least twenty minutes.
479 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:42:01pm |
re: #473 avanti
For crying out loud, maybe he just does not care for the poster, no matter the post. I didn't almost get to minus 2000 because I was popular. Many will be down dinged for a "Good morning Lizards" , deal with it, it's a conservative 1st amendment right to ding down.
Hell, TFK took advantage of that right on most every post I made, and I lived through it. :)
you were a legend...but now you've been overtaken...such is life
480 | Ojoe Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:42:02pm |
481 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:42:18pm |
re: #466 Killgore Trout
First the Jews were the Jews. Then the Muslims were the Jews. Now the nuts are the Jews...
Glenn Beck Compares Fox News To Jews During Holocaust (AUDIO)Somebody let me know when the atheists get to be to Jews. I've got the gravlax down but I need time to work on my matza balls.
I make my own gravlax, too. The problem is the slicing. I need to get a home-affordable Hobart machine so I can cut it, well, waahfer thin, Monsieur Creosote!
482 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:42:24pm |
re: #477 SanFranciscoZionist
The secret is to use almost double the amount of oil the recipe on the box calls for. Simmer on a nice low heat at least twenty minutes.
The best matza balls always use a little chicken shmaltz.
483 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:42:26pm |
re: #471 Spare O'Lake
I wasn't talking to you, creep.
More insults, and the tacit admission that there is no foul language in the post you downdinged.
You lied when you claimed that was the reason. You've been called out on it.
And your response is to call the person who pointed it out a 'creep'.
Well done, Emily Post. I guess your tender sensibilities are just fine with insults, huh? So long as it's you dealing them out. But a post mocking the dump that slanders LGF and CJ on a daily, if not hourly basis? Oh no, that must be downdinged. Unacceptable!
Pathetic.
484 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:42:40pm |
OK.
I don't have time to deal with another pissing match.
Stop it now or I'll close the thread.
485 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:42:46pm |
486 | Bloodnok Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:42:50pm |
re: #478 WindHorse
iceweasel... why are you always looking for someone to slaughter?
Um, take a look at the history of this. Just a hint.
487 | avanti Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:43:02pm |
re: #476 Bagua
Take it easy, you are being wound up.
I hate piling on, I didn't care for it when I was the leftie whipping boy, and like don't like it against those on the right either. Provoking a fellow Lizard to losing his/her temper just sucks.
488 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:43:06pm |
re: #473 avanti
For crying out loud, maybe he just does not care for the poster, no matter the post. I didn't almost get to minus 2000 because I was popular. Many will be down dinged for a "Good morning Lizards" , deal with it, it's a conservative 1st amendment right to ding down.
Hell, TFK took advantage of that right on most every post I made, and I lived through it. :)
Almost lived through it, you've been reduced to sticking up for conservatives, which may indicate that you didn't survive as well as you thought. :)
//
489 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:43:21pm |
re: #466 Killgore Trout
Wow...just when you think Beck can't get any more insane. How insulting to ACTUAL victims of fascism.
491 | Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:44:59pm |
re: #481 austin_blue
If you freeze it for about 20-30 minutes before slicing it really helps.
492 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:45:04pm |
re: #487 avanti
I hate piling on, I didn't care for it when I was the leftie whipping boy, and like don't like it against those on the right either. Provoking a fellow Lizard to losing his/her temper just sucks.
yup...take a look at this Stud will ya?...you got beer?
493 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:45:39pm |
re: #482 LudwigVanQuixote
The best matza balls always use a little chicken shmaltz.
Mmmm...schmaltz...Kosher butter...
494 | avanti Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:45:51pm |
re: #488 Walter L. Newton
Almost lived through it, you've been reduced to sticking up for conservatives, which may indicate that you didn't survive as well as you thought. :)
//
I'm not switching teams, I just want a fair game Walter.:)
496 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:46:21pm |
re: #493 austin_blue
Mmmm...schmaltz...Kosher butter...
Butter is kosher too... just not with chicken.
To be honest, that chumra never made sense to me.
497 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:46:25pm |
re: #494 avanti
I'm not switching teams, I just want a fair game Walter.:)
I know, I was being nice to you :)
499 | avanti Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:46:41pm |
re: #492 albusteve
yup...take a look at this Stud will ya?...you got beer?
Beer ? it's not just for breakfast now.
500 | Ziggy Standard Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:46:51pm |
re: #445 austin_blue
Maybe it was Fowl language?
No?
Hey, Krager, what's a Henweigh?
;-)
I remember that line from "That's My Bush"!
501 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:46:52pm |
502 | peterb Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:47:31pm |
re: #40 SpaceJesus
I will not rest until a picture of my face is featured as part of "GOP faces" at the top
It's likely in the extreme that those are just stock photos. That's pretty much standard operating procedure for any corporate web site.
503 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:47:38pm |
re: #489 bratwurst
Wow...just when you think Beck can't get any more insane. How insulting to ACTUAL victims of fascism.
I think Beck may have a long way to go. Insanity seems to come natural to him.
What a goddamn...HOW THE FUCK DARE HE???!!!???
OK, that helped.
504 | Coracle Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:47:44pm |
re: #496 LudwigVanQuixote
Butter is kosher too... just not with chicken.
To be honest, that chumra never made sense to me.
The ol' slippery slope. In my book Chicken ain't meat. You can't cook a chicken in the milk of its mother, after all.
505 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:48:13pm |
506 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:48:49pm |
re: #483 iceweasel
Ice,
You know full well that there have been times when I have lost it here.
It would be hypocrisy of me on the highest level to say I don't get it, or that I don't do it.
However, this fight doesn't seem worth it to me.
507 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:49:02pm |
re: #496 LudwigVanQuixote
Butter is kosher too... just not with chicken.
To be honest, that chumra never made sense to me.
It doesn't make any sense. That's why. But there it is, and I've learned to make a pretty good Southwestern cream sauce for chicken with Tofutti cream cheese.
508 | Bagua Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:49:20pm |
re: #502 peterb
Good grief, was that an on topic comment? I forget.
509 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:49:22pm |
re: #506 LudwigVanQuixote
Ice,
You know full well that there have been times when I have lost it here.
It would be hypocrisy of me on the highest level to say I don't get it, or that I don't do it.
However, this fight doesn't seem worth it to me.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
510 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:49:34pm |
re: #504 Coracle
The ol' slippery slope. In my book Chicken ain't meat. You can't cook a chicken in the milk of its mother, after all.
Exactly. That is why it is a chumrah.
But of course the chumrah became tradition, and then what are you going to do?
511 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:50:12pm |
re: #465 iceweasel
That was completely believable, Emily Post.
Except that 1) I didn't use any foul language and
2) I have this idea you didn't faint dead away or downding any of the many, many people on this blog who called the president a "fucking commie bastard: -- habitually.
I took your use of "grief-hole" as being foul language.
I will admit that you have a unique way of expressing yourself which does often rub me the wrong way, much moreso than many, many others here. But don't take it personally, I'm working on it.
Let's just leave off the baiting now, shall we?
512 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:50:17pm |
If you folks need to do something, why don't you take some of this anger, go over to Hot Air, and defend LGF against the sheer rubbish that's going on over there?
513 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:50:20pm |
re: #506 LudwigVanQuixote
Ice,
You know full well that there have been times when I have lost it here.
It would be hypocrisy of me on the highest level to say I don't get it, or that I don't do it.
However, this fight doesn't seem worth it to me.
wise council
514 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:50:35pm |
re: #511 Spare O'Lake
I took your use of "grief-hole" as being foul language.
I will admit that you have a unique way of expressing yourself which does often rub me the wrong way, much moreso than many, many others here. But don't take it personally, I'm working on it.
Let's just leave off the baiting now, shall we?
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
515 | Coracle Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:50:38pm |
re: #510 LudwigVanQuixote
Exactly. That is why it is a chumrah.
But of course the chumrah became tradition, and then what are you going to do?
[Tevye] TRADITION! Ehhh...[/Tevye]
516 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:51:16pm |
Now the white supremacist Robert Stacy McCain is getting into the act at Hot Air too.
517 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:51:53pm |
re: #515 Coracle
[Tevye] TRADITION! Ehhh...[/Tevye]
BTW Chumrah means stringency. It is always a fence. I don't have an issue with fences, but the fences around the fences can get a little silly.
518 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:51:59pm |
re: #491 Killgore Trout
If you freeze it for about 20-30 minutes before slicing it really helps.
[Video]
Thanks! So that's how it's done. (I've just *got* to get one on of those thin carving knives. That thing is killer bee.)
519 | brandon13 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:52:04pm |
"What Up?" was bad, but not as bad as Romney's "who let the dog's out."
520 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:52:36pm |
re: #503 SanFranciscoZionist
I think Beck may have a long way to go. Insanity seems to come natural to him.
What a goddamn...HOW THE FUCK DARE HE???!!!???
OK, that helped.
I just hope nobody gets seriously hurt before he is through. I feel ridiculous saying such a thing about a wacky TV host, but I am honestly concerned about the possibility.
521 | Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:52:47pm |
Now that Allahpundit's no longer around to issue his weak tea admonitions, they're REALLY getting ugly at Hot Air.
522 | peterb Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:53:35pm |
re: #521 Charles
Now that Allahpundit's no longer around to issue his weak tea admonitions, they're REALLY getting ugly at Hot Air.
If you look into a sewer, you're likely to see feces.
523 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:53:43pm |
re: #503 SanFranciscoZionist
I think Beck may have a long way to go. Insanity seems to come natural to him.
What a goddamn...HOW THE FUCK DARE HE???!!!???
OK, that helped.
I am right with you on that. As a general rule of thumb, I do not care to see the deaths of family members used for cheap debate points in unrelated topics.
524 | Bagua Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:54:07pm |
re: #506 LudwigVanQuixote
Ice,
You know full well that there have been times when I have lost it here.
It would be hypocrisy of me on the highest level to say I don't get it, or that I don't do it.
However, this fight doesn't seem worth it to me.
You see why I'm still fond of you despite all words? Let us peruse this Hot Air thing of which he speaks!
What is the etiquette for such a visit?
525 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:54:16pm |
re: #516 Charles
Now the white supremacist Robert Stacy McCain is getting into the act at Hot Air too.
I thought you discouraged cross-blog posting, in the "blog war" sense of things. I'd be glad to boot some tail when the idiots are reckless.
Just asking.
526 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:54:25pm |
re: #521 Charles
Now that Allahpundit's no longer around to issue his weak tea admonitions, they're REALLY getting ugly at Hot Air.
Because they want to show they can no doubt... They are such bad boys after all.
527 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:54:32pm |
re: #469 reine.de.tout
To your Inbox
Champagne shrimp
528 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:55:33pm |
re: #524 Bagua
You see why I'm still fond of you despite all words? Let us peruse this Hot Air thing of which he speaks!
What is the etiquette for such a visit?
Actually the exact opposite of what you would espouse here...
We are dealing with true thugs and creeps there. So I would recommend loading for bear and shooting for the groin.
529 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:55:43pm |
re: #487 avanti
I hate piling on, I didn't care for it when I was the leftie whipping boy, and like don't like it against those on the right either. Provoking a fellow Lizard to losing his/her temper just sucks.
Quite Concur. I remember all the times I updinged you to counter unjustified downdings. You deserve the positive karma you now have and I'm glad the dogpiles stopped.
530 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:55:53pm |
re: #496 LudwigVanQuixote
Butter is kosher too... just not with chicken.
To be honest, that chumra never made sense to me.
What not yoking the ox to the cow? Inserted into received wisdom by the Platemakers and Refrigerators Guild, circa 1157 BCE.
531 | Political Atheist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:56:05pm |
532 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:56:15pm |
re: #520 bratwurst
I just hope nobody gets seriously hurt before he is through. I feel ridiculous saying such a thing about a wacky TV host, but I am honestly concerned about the possibility.
I don't think that's an exaggerated or baseless worry at all, unfortunately.
Armed Glenn Beck Fan Planned National Guard Base Assault
Now I think I'll be going to check out HotAir. I hope we do have a regular feature on their comments. No one else does AFAIK and a lot of people would read it.
533 | avanti Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:57:27pm |
534 | rollwave87 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:57:57pm |
the blog name was a transparent attempt at coolness by mr. steele...but as for the new look of gop.com itself...can i say that i kind of like it? im not a web designer but just aesthetically it actually seems sorta cool. and i say this as a 22 year old. but also someone who's pretty disillusioned with his party right now. so id like to see some actual embracing of modernity in the GOP (for example, stop promoting domestic bigotry) instead of just a decently contempo. looking website.
535 | Mich-again Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:58:03pm |
re: #528 LudwigVanQuixote
We are dealing with true thugs and creeps there. So I would recommend ...
I would rate that comment Over the Top.
536 | Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:58:05pm |
Some music for Hot Air. Could be the new Hot Air theme soon.
537 | reine.de.tout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:58:37pm |
538 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:59:08pm |
539 | avanti Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:59:33pm |
re: #529 Dark_Falcon
Quite Concur. I remember all the times I updinged you to counter unjustified downdings. You deserve the positive karma you now have and I'm glad the dogpiles stopped.
Dark, you had my back, and I won't forget it. We differ politically, but you're are never anything but civil.
540 | Mich-again Tue, Oct 13, 2009 8:59:42pm |
re: #532 iceweasel
I don't have an ID there and the window is closed now, but I am a patient person.
541 | bosforus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:00:15pm |
re: #522 peterb
If you look into a sewer, you're likely to see feces.
In the market for a sewer inspection cam?
[Link: www.rjmcompany.com...]
542 | Pythagoras Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:01:07pm |
re: #512 Charles
If you folks need to do something, why don't you take some of this anger, go over to Hot Air, and defend LGF against the sheer rubbish that's going on over there?
Too much work. I can't follow it all.
543 | avanti Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:01:17pm |
re: #538 albusteve
the trucks were more handsome than their cars, imo...nice pic
Trivia question. Do you recognize where Studebaker got the PU box ?
544 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:01:27pm |
re: #539 avanti
Dark, you had my back, and I won't forget it. We differ politically, but you're are never anything but civil.
The Falcon is a true mensch.
545 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:01:52pm |
546 | reine.de.tout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:02:07pm |
re: #539 avanti
Dark, you had my back, and I won't forget it. We differ politically, but you're are never anything but civil.
*sniff*
548 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:03:02pm |
Well Hot Air keeps crashing my browser.
I'll try one more time, but I will shortly take this as an omen to stop.
549 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:03:21pm |
re: #539 avanti
Dark, you had my back, and I won't forget it. We differ politically, but you're are never anything but civil.
Holy moly... it's getting thick in here... should I make a confession too... Hey Av... I've always thought of ya like a little bruther... ya knows that... come here an lets me gives ya a big hug... you big galoot... :) (had enough?)
550 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:03:25pm |
re: #543 avanti
Trivia question. Do you recognize where Studebaker got the PU box ?
it's not a Ford or Chevy style...I have no clue
554 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:05:56pm |
557 | bosforus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:06:57pm |
re: #551 WindHorse
Phew! Thank goodness that got in the record!
558 | Mad Prophet Ludwig Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:07:01pm |
re: #555 WindHorse
Well isn't that special...
Here in the happy flower room we have many activities for you.
561 | carefulnow Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:08:00pm |
Why do I keep expecting this to be a new Jib-Jab cartoon?
562 | avanti Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:08:01pm |
re: #550 albusteve
it's not a Ford or Chevy style...I have no clue
They bought the tooling for a older Dodge bed.
563 | Bagua Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:08:22pm |
re: #556 WindHorse
Yes troll. That was an outrageous comment in this thread.
564 | TedStriker Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:08:44pm |
re: #543 avanti
Trivia question. Do you recognize where Studebaker got the PU box ?
I'd say Dodge...
565 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:08:59pm |
re: #551 WindHorse
You know who you sound like, WindHorse? You sound like Rodan. That's what he calls me. And since you persist in this display of butthurt hostility, allow me to rate your actions:
566 | avanti Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:09:27pm |
re: #557 bosforus
Phew! Thank goodness that got in the record!
Wonder if that was yet another TFK sock, he said he was on the thread.
568 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:10:26pm |
re: #566 avanti
Wonder if that was yet another TFK sock, he said he was on the thread.
Windhorse had been a Lizard since 2005 and had over 3000 postings, I don't think he was a sock puppet for anyone.
FYI.
569 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:10:40pm |
re: #566 avanti
Wonder if that was yet another TFK sock, he said he was on the thread.
Seemed like his particular form of incoherent hostility. And it certainly did involve some of his very special targets.
Sad little freak that he is.
570 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:10:43pm |
re: #562 avanti
They bought the tooling for a older Dodge bed.
ha!...my only guess, by default tho...not expertice...a very sparse design as Dodge always was
571 | avanti Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:11:03pm |
re: #568 Walter L. Newton
Windhorse had been a Lizard since 2005 and had over 3000 postings, I don't think he was a sock puppet for anyone.
FYI.
Sorry, I did not know that.
572 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:11:18pm |
re: #569 iceweasel
Seemed like his particular form of incoherent hostility. And it certainly did involve some of his very special targets.
Sad little freak that he is.
FYI
Windhorse had been a Lizard since 2005 and had over 3000 postings, I don't think he was a sock puppet for anyone.
573 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:11:40pm |
574 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:12:25pm |
re: #573 Walter L. Newton
No apology, just passing on the info.
fine...pass the gravy, make yourself useful
575 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:13:25pm |
You know, some evenings this place is like some horror movie where you're sitting with your friends havin' a beer and all of a sudden one of them has glowing red eyes and a long flickering tongue, and you have to stake them. I mean, good grief. What was that about?
576 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:13:31pm |
577 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:13:54pm |
re: #575 SanFranciscoZionist
You know, some evenings this place is like some horror movie where you're sitting with your friends havin' a beer and all of a sudden one of them has glowing red eyes and a long flickering tongue, and you have to stake them. I mean, good grief. What was that about?
I am new around here, was about to ask you the same thing!
578 | Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:14:24pm |
re: #575 SanFranciscoZionist
You know, some evenings this place is like some horror movie where you're sitting with your friends havin' a beer and all of a sudden one of them has glowing red eyes and a long flickering tongue, and you have to stake them. I mean, good grief. What was that about?
El demonio!
Garlic and a mirror helps sometimes.
//
579 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:14:50pm |
re: #540 Mich-again
I don't have an ID there and the window is closed now, but I am a patient person.
That's right, we have to reg there...ugh. I might start visiting their comments more just to get samples of teh crazy. It's hardly worth engaging with them there because they're insane.
580 | Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:15:17pm |
re: #575 SanFranciscoZionist
You know, some evenings this place is like some horror movie where you're sitting with your friends havin' a beer and all of a sudden one of them has glowing red eyes and a long flickering tongue, and you have to stake them. I mean, good grief. What was that about?
Sounds like a girl I dated a few years ago, and about that tongue...
581 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:15:22pm |
re: #566 avanti
Wonder if that was yet another TFK sock, he said he was on the thread.
I doubt it. Windhorse had enough of his own style, that I wouldn't call him a sock. He's just another long-time poster who decided to embrace the Bad Craziness instead of joining Charles in fighting it. I'm sorry he made the wrong choice, but it was his choice to flounce. Charles only did what any fair-minded administrator would do.
582 | Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:15:26pm |
And sometimes el demonio goes by the name of Jack Daniel or Johnny Walker.
/
583 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:15:40pm |
re: #572 Walter L. Newton
FYI
Windhorse had been a Lizard since 2005 and had over 3000 postings, I don't think he was a sock puppet for anyone.
Thanks, didn't know that.
584 | Mich-again Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:16:06pm |
585 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:16:23pm |
586 | TedStriker Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:17:46pm |
re: #581 Dark_Falcon
I doubt it. Windhorse had enough of his own style, that I wouldn't call him a sock. He's just another long-time poster who decided to embrace the Bad Craziness instead of joining Charles in fighting it. I'm sorry he made the wrong choice, but it was his choice to flounce. Charles only did what any fair-minded administrator would do.
I'll make another futile, plaintive cry:
WTF is wrong with people going crazy over stuff they should have the common sense not to go crazy over?
587 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:18:03pm |
re: #581 Dark_Falcon
Reminds me of The Stand...people running off to join Randall Flagg in Las Vegas or something.
588 | Mich-again Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:18:11pm |
re: #579 iceweasel
I might start visiting their comments more just to get samples of teh crazy. It's hardly worth engaging with them there because they're insane.
Therein lies the problem. Who really wants to go dredge through the sewer looking for QaQa.
589 | reine.de.tout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:18:42pm |
re: #579 iceweasel
That's right, we have to reg there...ugh. I might start visiting their comments more just to get samples of teh crazy. It's hardly worth engaging with them there because they're insane.
I can't, I just can't. Went over there a bit earlier, and just . . . couldn't think of anything that I could say that would whack any of 'em upside the head enough to get their attention.
590 | TedStriker Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:19:06pm |
re: #582 Gus 802
And sometimes el demonio goes by the name of Jack Daniel or Johnny Walker.
/
I thought that was reserved for MD20/20 and Night Train...
///
591 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:19:37pm |
592 | mikhailtheplumber Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:19:40pm |
re: #13 Killgore Trout
They need more than hip help. They need to jettison the racists. Not just the high profile ones like Pat Buchanan but all of them. The Tea Party and Republican blogs are full of racist comments. When minorities see this stuff they go away and never look back.
Very true. And yet, you're asking them to jettison all they have. Get rid of the crazies and the racists to try to seduce a demographic that is more or less democrat. I agree it´s their only choice, but it´s so risky, most will choose for the party to die a slow death.
593 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:20:07pm |
re: #521 Charles
Now that Allahpundit's no longer around to issue his weak tea admonitions, they're REALLY getting ugly at Hot Air.
Where does on go to register, there?
594 | Mich-again Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:21:10pm |
re: #591 albusteve
is your name Hollywood?
Officially, they call me "easy Money" but I'm not sure what that moniker implies.
/
595 | Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:21:14pm |
re: #593 austin_blue
Where does on go to register, there?
Wordpress I think. They open up for registry once every 500 years.
596 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:21:16pm |
re: #593 austin_blue
Where does on go to register, there?
Ack "one"
Can't navigate to the correct spot.
597 | albusteve Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:21:30pm |
re: #588 Mich-again
Therein lies the problem. Who really wants to go dredge through the sewer looking for QaQa.
alot of people, that's who...it's like a hobby
598 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:21:39pm |
re: #577 bratwurst
I am new around here, was about to ask you the same thing!
To put it in less ghoulish terms, some of our readers/commenters are unhappy with the topics that are currently being discussed on LGF, and the greater range of political opinions being expressed. Instead of just finding new sites that are more to their liking, some of them like to explode and act out until their accounts get blocked for bad behavior.
Sorry 'bout that. I really think we're almost done with our transition period.
599 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:23:39pm |
re: #598 SanFranciscoZionist
To put it in less ghoulish terms, some of our readers/commenters are unhappy with the topics that are currently being discussed on LGF, and the greater range of political opinions being expressed. Instead of just finding new sites that are more to their liking, some of them like to explode and act out until their accounts get blocked for bad behavior.
Sorry 'bout that. I really think we're almost done with our transition period.
Mebbe...every door that opens allows socks of all colors to become new hatchlings. All you need is a new IP address and it is almost impossible to track.
600 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:24:10pm |
re: #598 SanFranciscoZionist
Well I have been reading long enough to get that, but the sudden unprovoked attack from someone who had seemed like a reasonable person an hour or two ago made my head spin. Add that to the hunger caused by the food talk and I am a wreck!
601 | Bagua Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:24:40pm |
re: #568 Walter L. Newton
If he were legit he could email and ask to be unblocked.
602 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:24:50pm |
re: #599 austin_blue
Mebbe...every door that opens allows socks of all colors to become new hatchlings. All you need is a new IP address and it is almost impossible to track.
True, but that's not as disturbing as seeing someone who's been around for a while suddenly go off like a bottle rocket. All sites get trolls and such.
603 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:26:41pm |
re: #600 bratwurst
Well I have been reading long enough to get that, but the sudden unprovoked attack from someone who had seemed like a reasonable person an hour or two ago made my head spin. Add that to the hunger caused by the food talk and I am a wreck!
Go eat something, you'll feel better. Whooo. That was weird, huh?
604 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:27:12pm |
re: #586 talon_262
I'll make another futile, plaintive cry:
WTF is wrong with people going crazy over stuff they should have the common sense not to go crazy over?
I don't know. It pains me immensely to watch a long-time poster who I once admired go nuts and spew insults. Windhorse made a horse's ass out of himself. Rodan for his part cheered Windhorse's flounce, thus to both of them I say: I hope one day you two come to realize how badly you've behaved. Until that time, I cordially invited you both to fuck off.
606 | BARACK THE VOTE Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:30:04pm |
re: #602 SanFranciscoZionist
True, but that's not as disturbing as seeing someone who's been around for a while suddenly go off like a bottle rocket. All sites get trolls and such.
Much more disturbing, IMO. A reminder that we don't really know the person behind the internet persona when all we know is a few public interactions.
Much crazy lurks in the depths.
607 | TedStriker Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:31:16pm |
re: #598 SanFranciscoZionist
To put it in less ghoulish terms, some of our readers/commenters are unhappy with the topics that are currently being discussed on LGF, and the greater range of political opinions being expressed. Instead of just finding new sites that are more to their liking, some of them like to explode and act out until their accounts get blocked for bad behavior.
Sorry 'bout that. I really think we're almost done with our transition period.
Somebody said in the past day or two that somone over at the Deuce had a list of Lizards likely to bail/get the stick from here and join them and that most of them (save one, IIRC) has done just that...my theory is that while most of us (sane) Lizards were shocked or surprised by many of their departures, they already were in league with each other or at least knew each other's true nature with a wink and a nod. While most of us considered some of them friends, they knew the game was up once Charles made it clear in no uncertain terms that he wasn't gonna take LGF off the "right-wing" cliff like so many former allies, so there they go, blissfully into the abyss.
608 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:31:39pm |
re: #605 Spare O'Lake
*hic*
Hi thurr. What I mish?
Windhorse turned troll, spewed insults and bile and then got the stick. Uglier than a typical flounce but like all flounces it was both sad and lame.
609 | austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:33:51pm |
re: #602 SanFranciscoZionist
True, but that's not as disturbing as seeing someone who's been around for a while suddenly go off like a bottle rocket. All sites get trolls and such.
Yeah, it's like they reach a tipping point...and blam! Off they go.
610 | bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:34:28pm |
re: #603 SanFranciscoZionist
Go eat something, you'll feel better. Whooo. That was weird, huh?
LOL! One Jewish mother is enough. ;-) I am going to read and then go to bed to dream about matzo balls. Goodnight Lizards!
611 | TedStriker Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:36:13pm |
re: #607 talon_262
Left something out...a message to all of our backstabbing, ignorant stalker "friends" that have since departed or got the stick:
Bite me and get f**ked...if this is how you really are, I don't want your "help" anyway.
612 | Spare O'Lake Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:37:49pm |
re: #608 Dark_Falcon
Windhorse turned troll, spewed insults and bile and then got the stick. Uglier than a typical flounce but like all flounces it was both sad and lame.
Well thatsh *burp* jesh wunnerful *hic*.
G'nite all.
613 | Bagua Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:38:18pm |
re: #606 iceweasel
Much more disturbing, IMO. A reminder that we don't really know the person behind the internet persona when all we know is a few public interactions.
Much crazy lurks in the depths.
614 | Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:39:01pm |
re: #606 iceweasel
Much more disturbing, IMO. A reminder that we don't really know the person behind the internet persona when all we know is a few public interactions.
Much crazy lurks in the depths.
Oddly enough sometimes it's the overtly nice ones that make a sudden change in personalities. Maybe that isn't very odd though. It's hard to tell where a person is coming from on the internet. The extremes of behavior are an internet tradition you can say. ;) Especially having gazed at USENET groups for some time during the early days. Folks will carry feuds on for years and I believe some of them have reached a decade's worth of obsessions over there.
615 | Danny Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:45:56pm |