Yes, he really did.
In Beck’s latest insane rant, Obama’s Communications Director Anita Dunn plays Hitler, and other news organizations play the bystanders who let the Nazis get away with genocide.
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Daniel Ballard Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:07:26pm |
Oh come on. When will they figure out the damage being done?
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:10:17pm |
I despise the use of Nazi imagery in modern politics.
It so diminishes the actual evil that was naziism.
Sickening.
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:14:10pm |
I lost family in the real thing.
It is utterly wrong and deeply offensive to degrade and disrespect the dead by using them as cheap propaganda for self promotion.
You have to be really sick to do that.
The only people who have a right to really talk about such things as a comparison are Native Americans, Chinese who survived Japanese atrocities, and other groups who faced massed efforts to murder them wholesale.
There is simply nothing sacred anymore.
There is no political line too base or distorted or vile to use.
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bosforus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:15:54pm |
Glenn Beck Compares Fox News to Jews During the Holocaust
O RLY?
How do you even let those words come out of your mouth? Are you really that much of a heartless, moronic, agenda driven imbecile?
-rhetorical question-
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Almost Killed by Space Hookers Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:16:21pm |
For the record,
I'm a bit furious now.
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peterb Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:18:29pm |
You know, I'm not mad at Beck about this. I'm really not. Beck is about ratings. Beck is about saying provocative things to get people outrages and generate ratings because of it. He was a shock jock 20 years ago, and he's still a shock jock today. He's just a shock jock in a suit now.
What drives me nuts, what makes me furiously crazy frustrated, is the people who think they are conservatives who think this guy is helping the cause.
You couldn't discredit conservatism more than Glenn Beck is if you tried.
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researchok Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:20:47pm |
I'll say one thing about Beck. The man knows how to put on a good show and he knows how to pack 'em in.
Great theater.
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:21:47pm |
But, but I don't wanna go back to the crazy liberals! They've got this issue with Godwin's Law and such!
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bosforus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:22:06pm |
re: #8 researchok
I'll say one thing about Beck. The man knows how to put on a good show and he knows how to pack 'em in.
Great theater.
Yup. He's a master of tragedy.
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:23:33pm |
Not only that but Beck thinks this is the start of a "brutal dictatorship ruled by Obama."
Methinks Beck is beyond being a borderline personality anymore.
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researchok Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:23:36pm |
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:24:20pm |
At this point, I'd probably say, "I'm not surprised anymore," but redundancy sets in after awhile. Are there any level-headed righties out there?
Other than Charles?
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:25:18pm |
re: #14 fenrisdesigns
At this point, I'd probably say, "I'm not surprised anymore," but redundancy sets in after awhile. Are there any level-headed righties out there?
Other than Charles?
David Frum
| 16 |
redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:25:19pm |
I wonder who will be the first person to speculate that Obama will cancel the elections in 2012 for "national security" reasons.
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:25:56pm |
re: #16 redshirt
I wonder who will be the first person to speculate that Obama will cancel the elections in 2012 for "national security" reasons.
Shush! You'll feed the Beck!
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:25:59pm |
re: #14 fenrisdesigns
At this point, I'd probably say, "I'm not surprised anymore," but redundancy sets in after awhile. Are there any level-headed righties out there?
Other than Charles?
Give Dennis Prager a listen.
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Kronocide Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:26:24pm |
re: #14 fenrisdesigns
At this point, I'd probably say, "I'm not surprised anymore," but redundancy sets in after awhile. Are there any level-headed righties out there?
Other than Charles?
OK, let's not go too far.
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Mich-again Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:27:27pm |
More crapola from the morning zoo DJ amateur rodeo clown cum Fox News Hero known as Glen Beck.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:27:50pm |
His last two line on this audio clip is... "You miss the point of brutal dictators, you miss the point of how they start." He's calling Obama a dictator, plain and simple.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:28:02pm |
Jaw dropping vile. Leaves one speechless. Disgust with the man exceeded only by the disgust with those who choose to broadcast this bile. I know it is about the money. So is porn.
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Bagua Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:28:55pm |
re: #19 Noam Sayin'
Good grief. Where does it end?
It's early days, things will get even weirder before this show is over.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:29:13pm |
re: #18 redshirt
Give Dennis Prager a listen.
the creationist defender of the Discovery Insititute Dennis?
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:29:42pm |
re: #23 The Shadow Do
Jaw dropping vile. Leaves one speechless. Disgust with the man exceeded only by the disgust with those who choose to broadcast this bile. I know it is about the money. So is porn.
Well almost. He's certainly making more money doing what he is doing than what I'm making in porn.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:29:44pm |
re: #23 The Shadow Do
Jaw dropping vile. Leaves one speechless. Disgust with the man exceeded only by the disgust with those who choose to broadcast this bile. I know it is about the money. So is porn.
Don't confuse porn stars with Glen Beck. Most of them are honest about what they do, and most porn doesn't resemble a train wreck, unlike Glen Beck's show.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:30:36pm |
re: #26 Walter L. Newton
Well almost. He's certainly making more money doing what he is doing than what I'm making in porn.
LOL
| 29 |
Kronocide Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:31:18pm |
re: #25 The Shadow Do
the creationist defender of the Discovery Insititute Dennis?
Do you have a link? I've heard him speak in support of evolution before.
| 30 |
Alan K. Henderson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:33:00pm |
I don't think the comparing the severity of the oppression of the Jews to the severity of the oppression of Fox News. Beck calls attention to the age-old principle: don't gloat when your government steals the freedoms of a constituency you don't like, cuz such a State will eventually come around to stealing yours. Mention that principle, and almost everybody (at least in the West) will first think of the Holocaust, thanks to Martin Niemöller.
Perhaps Beck could have picked a less deadly example, like the US tax code, or that form of double jeopardy where one is tried first criminally and then civilly for the same crime. First they came for OJ...
Did I just fail to take my own advice?
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:33:53pm |
re: #25 The Shadow Do
the creationist defender of the Discovery Insititute Dennis?
He's not a creatonist, he is very clear in keeping his faith separate from his science.
My point is he is a very level headed person to listen to. He doesn't beat the drums of populist anger and he talks about a lot more topics other than politics.
You should listen to the happiness hour sometime.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:34:02pm |
re: #30 Alan K. Henderson
You're actually going to try to defend this?
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:34:29pm |
re: #29 BigPapa
Do you have a link? I've heard him speak in support of evolution before.
And I heard him shut down a caller, which he almost never does, when challenged over ID. Link? Probably not tonight since it is past my bed time, but you may want to check this out on your own. I had a ton of respect for Dennis before I heard his take on the topic. I think you will find this to be so.
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Mich-again Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:34:31pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:35:05pm |
re: #16 redshirt
I wonder who will be the first person to speculate that Obama will cancel the elections in 2012 for "national security" reasons.
I'm pretty sure that's already circulating. Anyone? Anyone?
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:35:16pm |
re: #31 redshirt
He's not a creatonist, he is very clear in keeping his faith separate from his science.
My point is he is a very level headed person to listen to. He doesn't beat the drums of populist anger and he talks about a lot more topics other than politics.
You should listen to the happiness hour sometime.
Yes, Dennis Prager is a creationist. One of the only times I heard him lose his cool was when he had ID shill Michael Behe on his show, and someone called in to challenge him on his creationist views.
He's definitely a promoter of "intelligent design" creationism.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:35:28pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:36:08pm |
re: #18 redshirt
Give Dennis Prager a listen.
I disagree with him on many, many issues, but he does seem rational.
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:36:40pm |
And think: just a year ago the perceived badges and armbands were switched. The next time a Republican is in office, where do you think the analogies will come from again?
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:36:40pm |
re: #36 Charles
Yes, Dennis Prager is a creationist. One of the only times I heard him lose his cool was when he had ID shill Michael Behe on his show, and someone called in to challenge him on his creationist views.
He's definitely a promoter of "intelligent design" creationism.
Dennis talks to David Berlinski, senior fellow at the Discovery Institute in Seattle and a former fellow at the Institut des Hautes Études Scientifiques in Paris, France. His new book is The Devil's Delusion: Atheism and Its Scientific Pretensions."
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:36:54pm |
re: #19 Noam Sayin'
Good grief. Where does it end?
They come for Stephen Colbert, and there is no one left to speak out.
///bad lizard! Bad!
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:37:20pm |
re: #36 Charles
Yes, Dennis Prager is a creationist. One of the only times I heard him lose his cool was when he had ID shill Michael Behe on his show, and someone called in to challenge him on his creationist views.
He's definitely a promoter of "intelligent design" creationism.
Yes, that is my refernce point.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:37:54pm |
re: #25 The Shadow Do
the creationist defender of the Discovery Insititute Dennis?
Really? Damn. I can't keep track of the ones that have gone whacka creationist any more. Prager should know better.
| 44 |
Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:38:47pm |
Good lord, I did not intend to start this brand of argument. Let's get back to making fun of Glenn.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:38:51pm |
re: #43 SanFranciscoZionist
Really? Damn. I can't keep track of the ones that have gone whacka creationist any more. Prager should know better.
[Link: www.discovery.org...]
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Kronocide Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:38:51pm |
re: #33 The Shadow Do
And I heard him shut down a caller, which he almost never does, when challenged over ID. Link? Probably not tonight since it is past my bed time, but you may want to check this out on your own. I had a ton of respect for Dennis before I heard his take on the topic.
I'll keep my ears out. He's dogmatic on AGW but otherwise like his style and value his views on theism, as an atheist.
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:39:01pm |
re: #36 Charles
Yes, Dennis Prager is a creationist. One of the only times I heard him lose his cool was when he had ID shill Michael Behe on his show, and someone called in to challenge him on his creationist views.
He's definitely a promoter of "intelligent design" creationism.
Well, I've never heard him do that, but I will take you at your word.
Does that fact that you may disagree with him on that point mean he can't still be enjoyed for his other topics?
I mean he can't be at all compared to Beck or Hannity or Limbaugh.
He's not a screamer, and he tries hard to reach clarity with disagreeing calls. He isn't a hater.
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kittysaidwoof Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:39:07pm |
Government starting to reigning in the media is a serious matter and I've been surprised how casually the concept of WH declaring its intention to attack a specific media outlet has been taken. I can't help but think that maybe somebody should have rung more alarm bells when Putin used his popularity to do this in Russia to ensure his continued popularity. We can see other modern examples in Venezuela and even Italy (it is inconceivable that Berlusconi could remain a prime minister without his control of the media).
It is probably tactless of him to invoke the holocaust (which gets invoked way too often), but people often forget that holocaust didn't just happen, it was preceded by years and years of inactivity by lots of people who in hindsight could've prevented it. Awful things rarely happen all of the sudden when it is easy to distinguish what is happening, but gradually - slice after slice - and one day you realize its too late. Isn't that the story we're told on climate change? And the story of allowing creationism into schools to mess up teaching of science?
While I think it is unlikely and I think so mostly because from afar they look too incompetent to be able to pull it off, what if WH actually manages to silence Fox? After all, leader of the free world is immensely more powerful than any news network.
| 49 |
Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:39:19pm |
The FEMA camps are really nice.
/Capo Trout
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Mich-again Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:39:25pm |
re: #35 SanFranciscoZionist
Anyone? Anyone?
how about Alan Keyes, here..
Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes has given perhaps his most dire warning yet, saying that the Obama administration is preparing to stage terror attacks, declare martial law and cancel the 2012 elections, which is why they are demonizing their political enemies as criminals and terrorists
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:39:30pm |
re: #27 Dark_Falcon
Don't confuse porn stars with Glen Beck. Most of them are honest about what they do, and most porn doesn't resemble a train wreck, unlike Glen Beck's show.
I would rather have Jenna Whatsherbucket influencing American politics than Glenn Beck. And I have no idea what her political ideas are.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:40:14pm |
re: #48 kittysaidwoof
Are you using a proxy IP?
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:40:34pm |
re: #39 fenrisdesigns
And think: just a year ago the perceived badges and armbands were switched. The next time a Republican is in office, where do you think the analogies will come from again?
Lord.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:40:46pm |
re: #43 SanFranciscoZionist
Really? Damn. I can't keep track of the ones that have gone whacka creationist any more. Prager should know better.
I agree, very disappointing to me too. He is a very bright and moral man.
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austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:40:49pm |
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:41:03pm |
re: #46 BigPapa
I'll keep my ears out. He's dogmatic on AGW but otherwise like his style and value his views on theism, as an atheist.
I've posted two links above to Prager/Discovery connections.
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:41:50pm |
re: #50 Mich-again
Former presidential candidate Alan Keyes has given perhaps his most dire warning yet, saying that the Obama administration is preparing to stage terror attacks, declare martial law and cancel the 2012 elections, which is why they are demonizing their political enemies as criminals and terrorists
And he used to be such a nice guy, restraining his comments to Obama being a "socialist and a liar" and predicting that Jesus would choose him over Obama.
| 59 |
Mr.Boots Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:42:03pm |
So where are the various organizations dedicated to preserving the memory of the Holocaust? In the past these organizations have risen up against any intimation that a political/social issue could be compared to the Holocaust. This current constant litany of gratuitous Nazi, Hitler, and Holocaust accusations is an insult to the memory of all those departed souls.
For groups so vocal in the past, I find them strangely quiet this time around.
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:42:18pm |
re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist
I would rather have Jenna Whatsherbucket influencing American politics than Glenn Beck. And I have no idea what her political ideas are.
Don't pretend you don't know Jenna Jameson.
| 61 |
The Left Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:42:20pm |
I keep thinking we've seen Peak Wingnut, but it just keeps going...
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:42:52pm |
re: #48 kittysaidwoof
Oh give me a break. David Axelrod met with Roger Ailes a couple of weeks ago. This recent round of paranoid hysterics is only due to one news interview of a White House press officer that voiced her opinions on Fox News. People thought Nixon was going to destroy the press. The left thought Reagan controlled the press and the media.
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:43:15pm |
re: #59 Mr.Boots
So where are the various organizations dedicated to preserving the memory of the Holocaust? In the past these organizations have risen up against any intimation that a political/social issue could be compared to the Holocaust. This current constant litany of gratuitous Nazi, Hitler, and Holocaust accusations is an insult to the memory of all those departed souls.
For groups so vocal in the past, I find them strangely quiet this time around.
Maybe they can't keep up with the manufactured outrage machine.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:43:32pm |
re: #58 fenrisdesigns
And he used to be such a nice guy, restraining his comments to Obama being a "socialist and a liar" and predicting that Jesus would choose him over Obama.
Jesus is not eligible to vote in U.S. national elections.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:43:45pm |
re: #62 Gus 802
Oh give me a break. David Axelrod met with Roger Ailes a couple of weeks ago. This recent round of paranoid hysterics is only due to one news interview of a White House press officer that voiced her opinions on Fox News. People thought Nixon was going to destroy the press. The left thought Reagan controlled the press and the media.
It's just unbelievable. Anita Dunn criticizes Fox News and suddenly the right wing is screaming about the coming fascist death camps.
| 67 |
Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:43:50pm |
I can feel the love out there tonight. Full moon?
| 68 |
Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:44:35pm |
re: #66 Charles
It's just unbelievable. Anita Dunn criticizes Fox News and suddenly the right wing is screaming about the coming fascist death camps.
Or in Beck's words to the effect of "the beginnings of a brutal dictatorship!"
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:45:12pm |
re: #51 SanFranciscoZionist
I would rather have Jenna Whatsherbucket influencing American politics than Glenn Beck. And I have no idea what her political ideas are.
Her name is Jenna Jameson. While I haven't seen any of her porn movies, every piece of coverage I've ever seen on her leads me to believe that she is a sane and decent person, which Glen Beck is not.
| 70 |
Kronocide Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:45:23pm |
re: #57 Walter L. Newton
I've posted two links above to Prager/Discovery connections.
Yes, on that track.
I think it's important to reassert that I can accept somebody believing in ID, as a belief. Once you attack science or call it science then we have problems.
| 71 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:45:28pm |
re: #68 Gus 802
Or in Beck's words to the effect of "the beginnings of a brutal dictatorship!"
His exact words...
"You miss the point of brutal dictators, you miss the point of how they start."
| 72 |
redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:45:29pm |
Reminds me, what's the latest on the "fairness" doctrine?
| 73 |
SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:45:43pm |
re: #60 redshirt
Don't pretend you don't know Jenna Jameson.
Jameson! I couldn't remember if it was that, or Johnson.
I'm more of a Violet Blue girl, really.
| 74 |
Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:45:44pm |
re: #67 Killgore Trout
I can feel the love out there tonight. Full moon?
Waxing gibbous. Was huge and yellow a few nights back, really neat to look at.
| 75 |
Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:46:17pm |
re: #72 redshirt
Reminds me, what's the latest on the "fairness" doctrine?
Not gonna happen.
/Same as it ever was.
| 76 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:46:26pm |
re: #72 redshirt
Reminds me, what's the latest on the "fairness" doctrine?
The latest is that there is no fairness doctrine, and nobody is trying to bring back any fairness doctrine. But that isn't stopping the right wing pundits from fear mongering about it, of course.
| 77 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:46:30pm |
| 78 |
redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:46:42pm |
re: #73 SanFranciscoZionist
Jameson! I couldn't remember if it was that, or Johnson.
I'm more of a Violet Blue girl, really.
Google just got slammed...
| 79 |
Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:46:49pm |
re: #64 SanFranciscoZionist
Jesus is not eligible to vote in U.S. national elections.
But but...he wrote the Constitution! [Link: www.mcnaughtonart.com...]
| 81 |
Bagua Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:46:59pm |
re: #48 kittysaidwoof
Government starting to reigning in the media is a serious [...].
Good grief, please work on your grammar, that was a painful read.
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Kronocide Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:47:00pm |
re: #69 Dark_Falcon
Her name is Jenna Jameson. While I haven't seen any of her porn movies, every piece of coverage I've ever seen on her leads me to believe that she is a sane and decent person, which Glen Beck is not.
She knows when or when not to open her mouth.
| 83 |
SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:47:03pm |
re: #63 Sharmuta
Maybe they can't keep up with the manufactured outrage machine.
Maybe, but it is a really good point, and I'm going to write some letters this week. There should be some feedback to Fox about their employees.
| 84 |
Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:47:04pm |
re: #71 Walter L. Newton
His exact words...
"You miss the point of brutal dictators, you miss the point of how they start."
Yeah, they start with Beck's paranoid fantasies of the Obama administration "taking down" Fox News.
| 85 |
ArchangelMichael Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:47:07pm |
I hate people that minimize the holocaust by comparing their own personal trauma dramas, real or imagined, to it. It's about the most insulting thing I can think of. My grandfather was one of the liberators of Buchenwald. He saw what the holocaust was for real. Nothing and I mean nothing that any American has experienced in their lives remotely comes close to that horror that was unleashed upon the Jews and others who didn't measure up to the psychotic whims of Adolf Hitler and his Nazi Party.
Do you have no shame Glenn Beck?
| 86 |
The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:47:39pm |
re: #61 iceweasel
I keep thinking we've seen Peak Wingnut, but it just keeps going...
Easy to be smug when your nuts have become institutionalized ain't it?
| 87 |
Killgore Trout Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:47:43pm |
once in a lifetime
| 88 |
redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:47:53pm |
re: #76 Charles
The latest is that there is no fairness doctrine, and nobody is trying to bring back any fairness doctrine. But that isn't stopping the right wing pundits from fear mongering about it, of course.
Well, I'm sure you will let us know if it rears it's ugly head again.
| 89 |
Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:47:54pm |
re: #58 fenrisdesigns
And he used to be such a nice guy, restraining his comments to Obama being a "socialist and a liar" and predicting that Jesus would choose him over Obama.
I voted for Keyes instead of Obama back in 2004. I was wrong. Barack Obama is a flawed and weak man, but he is still a far better man than the bigoted and fanatical Alan Keyes.
| 90 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:48:07pm |
| 92 |
Alan K. Henderson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:48:45pm |
| 93 |
Aye Pod Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:48:47pm |
re: #4 LudwigVanQuixote
I lost family in the real thing.
It is utterly wrong and deeply offensive to degrade and disrespect the dead by using them as cheap propaganda for self promotion.
You have to be really sick to do that.
The only people who have a right to really talk about such things as a comparison are Native Americans, Chinese who survived Japanese atrocities, and other groups who faced massed efforts to murder them wholesale.
There is simply nothing sacred anymore.
There is no political line too base or distorted or vile to use.
One way or another, he is really sick. Either he really is genuinely crazy and actually believes this shit, or he has no real values with respect to politics in America, nevermind the idiotarian ones he espouses and is just another craven populist manipulator. Either way, it's a big bowl of wrong.
| 94 |
SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:49:12pm |
re: #72 redshirt
Reminds me, what's the latest on the "fairness" doctrine?
The Fairness Doctrine, According To Mrs. SFZ: "Life is not fair. If you've figured this out at sixteen you'll have more time to work on your grades."
| 95 |
The Left Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:49:41pm |
re: #86 The Shadow Do
Easy to be smug when your nuts have become institutionalized ain't it?
I wouldn't know. I'm not smug and the Democrats have marginalised their nuts (Code Pink, etc.)
PS: I'm not a Democrat.
| 96 |
Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:49:57pm |
re: #61 iceweasel
I keep thinking we've seen Peak Wingnut, but it just keeps going...
If you graph it you'll find that the trajectory looks similar to a hockey stick.
;)
| 97 |
Kronocide Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:50:13pm |
re: #79 fenrisdesigns
But but...he wrote the Constitution! [Link: www.mcnaughtonart.com...]
This is IceWeasel Approved.
| 98 |
Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:50:28pm |
re: #92 Alan K. Henderson
I'll restate the second paragraph more forcefully: violating Godwin's Law is bad PR (for non-leftys). Beck has a good point but picks the wrong illustration.
No, he does not have a good point at all. This is complete nonsense. It's the ranting of a crazy person. There is no attempt to "shut down" Fox News or "censor" Fox News.
They were criticized! The horror! We're doomed! Aaah! [run around screaming]
| 100 |
Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:50:57pm |
re: #95 iceweasel
I wouldn't know. I'm not smug and the Democrats have marginalised their nuts (Code Pink, etc.)
PS: I'm not a Democrat.
Tory?
| 101 |
redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:51:12pm |
re: #89 Dark_Falcon
I voted for Keyes instead of Obama back in 2004. I was wrong. Barack Obama is a flawed and weak man, but he is still a far better man than the bigoted and fanatical Alan Keyes.
Bold statement, that.
LOL
| 102 |
Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:51:52pm |
| 103 |
Aye Pod Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:51:53pm |
re: #95 iceweasel
I wouldn't know. I'm not smug and the Democrats have marginalised their nuts (Code Pink, etc.)
PS: I'm not a Democrat.
That's because you are a chinese communist femputer, ice-ski. We've seen the pictures ;-)
| 104 |
The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:52:11pm |
re: #95 iceweasel
I wouldn't know. I'm not smug and the Democrats have marginalised their nuts (Code Pink, etc.)
PS: I'm not a Democrat.
What is your opinion of Joe Biden?
| 105 |
Sharmuta Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:53:14pm |
re: #98 Charles
No, he does not have a good point at all. This is complete nonsense. It's the ranting of a crazy person. There is no attempt to "shut down" Fox News or "censor" Fox News. They were criticized! The horror! We're doomed! Aaah! [run around screaming]
Weren't people saying yesterday that the White House looked wimpy for whining about fox? I would think fox would likewise look wimpy for whining about a criticism, and worse. Beck looks sleazy for bringing in the Holocaust.
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The Left Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:53:34pm |
re: #104 The Shadow Do
What is your opinion of Joe Biden?
Better than Palin.
Now if he'd just quit washing his TransAm in the WH driveway...
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:54:32pm |
When did "conservatives" turn into such whining crybabies?
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Racer X Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:54:47pm |
Fear sells, and in a down economy sales are up.
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:54:53pm |
re: #27 Dark_Falcon
Don't confuse porn stars with Glen Beck. Most of them are honest about what they do, and most porn doesn't resemble a train wreck, unlike Glen Beck's show.
Although some of them might run a train...
///
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Aye Pod Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:56:06pm |
re: #107 Charles
When did "conservatives" turn into such whining crybabies?
When Obama won the election.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:56:15pm |
re: #106 iceweasel
Better than Palin.
Now if he'd just quit washing his TransAm in the WH driveway...
Okay, that is funny shit but, Palin aside, what is your opinion of Joe Biden?
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:56:18pm |
It's amazing. The big hero of conservatives is a guy who weeps on television.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:56:32pm |
re: #85 ArchangelMichael
Do you have no shame Glenn Beck?
The guy has admitted to being creeped out by Jews and black people. He probably has no real understanding of the Holocaust in the first place.
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:56:39pm |
re: #106 iceweasel
Better than Palin.
Now if he'd just quit washing his TransAm in the WH driveway...
He's not much better than Palin, and considering how "experienced" he is, his foolishness makes him worse than her.
She's got no experience, he has no excuse.
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Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:57:25pm |
re: #115 Charles
It's amazing. The big hero of conservatives is a guy who weeps on television.
HE'S GOT NOWHERE ELSE TO GO!
/sorry, couldn't resist
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kittysaidwoof Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:57:33pm |
I'm European and I don't even get Fox News and what I see and know of Beck are mostly silly clips posted here. Based on those clips its hardly a show I would watch.
I did not invoke fascist death camps, but modern examples of governments using their popularity to reign in the media to stay popular.
I didn't realize WH communications directors give interviews in some other capacity than WH communications directors while they are holding the office, so I naturally assumed that what she said is WH position, and I thought there have been other such signals as well - not just this one interview. Maybe this is not the case, if so, I stand corrected.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:57:35pm |
re: #115 Charles
It's amazing. The big hero of conservatives is a guy who weeps on television.
Goes to show that there are some real compassionate conservatives.
/
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Danny Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:58:02pm |
re: #115 Charles
It's amazing. The big hero of conservatives is a guy who weeps on television.
It's Beck's way of watering the tree of liberty.
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:58:09pm |
re: #106 iceweasel
Better than Palin.
Now if he'd just quit washing his TransAm in the WH driveway...
Now, if Biden had the decency to stop with the plastic smile and show himself doing something outrageous and human, the Onion wouldn't have to fake it.
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:58:51pm |
re: #122 Danny
It's Beck's way of watering the tree of liberty.
It works. His high-pitched whining's is making my ears bleed.
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cygnus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:59:05pm |
re: #67 Killgore Trout
I can feel the love out there tonight. Full moon?
Waning crescent moon, actually. New moon is on the 18th or so.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:59:37pm |
Thomas Jefferson updated:
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the phony tears of alcoholic TV personalities."
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austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:59:45pm |
re: #14 fenrisdesigns
At this point, I'd probably say, "I'm not surprised anymore," but redundancy sets in after awhile. Are there any level-headed righties out there?
Other than Charles?
Sure. There are plenty on this board.
Suggestion, and this is from the left-of-center perspective; You are a newbie on this board. Don't insult other Lizards with broad brush strokes. Take a look at the personalities and how they post. Walter is an artistic curmudgeon in the Mencken vein. He can be infuriating, but he has a heart of gold. Dark Falcon is tight on his beliefs, but puts himself into the middle of arguments, asking for peace and restraint. There are tons of other stories.
Understand this, also. Occasionally, people make absolutely stupid posts. I mean, real screamers. Don't jump. Ask if that was what they really meant to say.
Keep the volume down. This used to be a board where any deviation from perceived wisdom resulted in a GAZE. It has changed a lot. What we all need to do is keep the dialog going, offer heartfelt opinions based on fact (if that's possible, if, not, on honest sincerity), accept each other as humans of different opinions and beliefs, and see if we can't have a civil discussion on events and policies that affect us all.
Don't make assumptions here. It's a big old world, and we are all players in it.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:00:25pm |
re: #120 kittysaidwoof
I'm European and I don't even get Fox News and what I see and know of Beck are mostly silly clips posted here. Based on those clips its hardly a show I would watch.
I did not invoke fascist death camps, but modern examples of governments using their popularity to reign in the media to stay popular.
I didn't realize WH communications directors give interviews in some other capacity than WH communications directors while they are holding the office, so I naturally assumed that what she said is WH position, and I thought there have been other such signals as well - not just this one interview. Maybe this is not the case, if so, I stand corrected.
Your take is pretty accurate.
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Aye Pod Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:00:55pm |
re: #115 Charles
It's amazing. The big hero of conservatives is a guy who weeps on television.
Those are authentic right wing conservative man-tears though/
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The Left Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:02:03pm |
re: #118 redshirt
He's not much better than Palin,
This is where I knew I could stop reading.
Seriously, that statement doesn't hold up, no matter how much you dislike Biden.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:02:03pm |
re: #127 austin_blue
[snip]
Walter is an artistic curmudgeon in the Mencken vein.
[snip]
Whoa... whoa... whoa... that's H.L. Menchen to you buddy :)
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:02:10pm |
Come to think of it. Once of my criticisms of the Bush administration was that they were too passive with the media at times. They could have used an Anita Dunn from time to time. But it's kind of a false history to claim that the previous White House never spoke out against the media completely. Tony Snow wasn't exactly a push over in that regard.
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:02:17pm |
re: #129 Jimmah
Those are authentic right wing conservative man-tears though/
Rugged, individual tears, damnit!
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Aye Pod Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:02:18pm |
re: #111 Sharmuta
November 2008.
Ah yes the memories are flooding back...
Disappointed Republicans today announced the start of a four year "virtual bitch-in" in response to Obama's election. "Sitting in front of our computers for four years bitching about everything he does and everything that people say about him may not be the whole answer, but it's about all we can think of at the moment" said spokesperson Robert Nadir.
"With the republicans currently in such a hopeless, directionless mess, making predictions of impending Obama-doom and spinning every event in the most negative way possible is the only thing that's keeping us going." he continued. "Frankly, it's either that or take our own lives."
Lifelong republican Susan Trough thinks the right shouldn't be limited to her colleagues' virtual solution. "It's not all about packing out online discussion forums and wallowing in a swill of our own collective bile. We also encourage our members to get out there and indulge in armageddon like fantasies. Collecting guns and ammo is for these people a healthy outlet for their frustrations, and makes them feel like they're really doing something constructive for the future."
Other republicans are getting creative with the application of satire. One such - John Downer, who runs a print shop in Lynchburg VA, has come up with the idea of printing Obama's face on the inside bottom of coffee mugs. "A lot of my republican customers, like myself, have been experiencing feelings of powerlessness since Obama took office, and needed something to help them to feel politically relevant again. Now, with my range of Obama coffee mugs, every time you pour yourself a hot drink, it's like you are pouring boiling water directly onto his face. Between that and the caffeine it's a real pick-me-up."
Finally, and perhaps most radical of all, some forward thinking republicans are considering having another go with Sarah Palin at the next Election, this time as Presidential candidate. "I think we'll see her mature and be able to handle simple questions without making everyone present bite their knuckles in shame by the time the next campaign begins. This is what we call fresh thinking." says David Newlow.
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:03:03pm |
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Bagua Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:03:29pm |
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:03:45pm |
OT - Holy shit... someone mentioned "Cthulhu" above and I had no idea who or what the "f" that was... so, I go to Wiki and look this up.
Ok, now, how the hell am I going to get any sleep tonight?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:03:49pm |
re: #127 austin_blue
Sure. There are plenty on this board.
Suggestion, and this is from the left-of-center perspective; You are a newbie on this board. Don't insult other Lizards with broad brush strokes. Take a look at the personalities and how they post. Walter is an artistic curmudgeon in the Mencken vein. He can be infuriating, but he has a heart of gold. Dark Falcon is tight on his beliefs, but puts himself into the middle of arguments, asking for peace and restraint. There are tons of other stories.
Understand this, also. Occasionally, people make absolutely stupid posts. I mean, real screamers. Don't jump. Ask if that was what they really meant to say.
Keep the volume down. This used to be a board where any deviation from perceived wisdom resulted in a GAZE. It has changed a lot. What we all need to do is keep the dialog going, offer heartfelt opinions based on fact (if that's possible, if, not, on honest sincerity), accept each other as humans of different opinions and beliefs, and see if we can't have a civil discussion on events and policies that affect us all.
Don't make assumptions here. It's a big old world, and we are all players in it.
I'm sorry. I didn't realize that was an offensive statement and will take better care next time.
Umm, we're cool, right?
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:03:56pm |
re: #130 iceweasel
This is where I knew I could stop reading.
Seriously, that statement doesn't hold up, no matter how much you dislike Biden.
If you were to tally up their public gaffes, I think it would be pretty close.
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:04:21pm |
re: #137 Walter L. Newton
OT - Holy shit... someone mentioned "Cthulhu" above and I had no idea who or what the "f" that was... so, I go to Wiki and look this up.
Ok, now, how the hell am I going to get any sleep tonight?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
I recommend Re-Animator just before bedtime.
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The Left Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:04:29pm |
re: #134 Jimmah
Nadir, Trough, Downer, and Newlow.
In stitches here. hysterical. Well done tovarisch Jimmah!
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Aye Pod Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:04:47pm |
re: #134 Jimmah
Correction -
Disappointed Republicans today announced the start of a
foureight year "virtual bitch-in" in response to Obama's election.
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:04:57pm |
re: #137 Walter L. Newton
OT - Holy shit... someone mentioned "Cthulhu" above and I had no idea who or what the "f" that was... so, I go to Wiki and look this up.
Ok, now, how the hell am I going to get any sleep tonight?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
I missed a cthulhu reference? Who?
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Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:05:28pm |
re: #140 fenrisdesigns
I recommend Re-Animator just before bedtime.
Hulu has Dawn of the Dead, but that movie pissed me off last time I watched it.
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:06:00pm |
re: #130 iceweasel
This is where I knew I could stop reading.
Seriously, that statement doesn't hold up, no matter how much you dislike Biden.
You know. I actually thought Biden was the best of the Dems during the primary. I found him to be the most moderate during the debates.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:06:13pm |
re: #140 fenrisdesigns
I recommend Re-Animator just before bedtime.
You know, I saw that movie, obscure little thing, back and forth, colonial times, contemporary times... right?
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Bagua Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:06:26pm |
re: #142 Jimmah
Correction -
Eight years is a long time out to predict, but the farce favours your side at the present time.
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Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:06:42pm |
re: #137 Walter L. Newton
OT - Holy shit... someone mentioned "Cthulhu" above and I had no idea who or what the "f" that was... so, I go to Wiki and look this up.
Ok, now, how the hell am I going to get any sleep tonight?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
You really hadn't heard of Cthulhu before? Wow.
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:07:06pm |
re: #147 Walter L. Newton
You know, I saw that movie, obscure little thing, back and forth, colonial times, contemporary times... right?
I suppose. I've only read the short story, but heard good things otherwise.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:07:25pm |
re: #144 redshirt
I missed a cthulhu reference? Who?
Ok, I was kidding, no, I saw it somewhere tonight or today on LGF. I just looked up thread, not on this one, but I saw it somewhere.
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Charles Johnson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:07:27pm |
If George W. Bush's communications director had come out and criticized MSNBC like Anita Dunn criticized Fox News, the same people who are screaming about suppression and censorship right now would have been cheering. This is pure hypocrisy, and nothing but crybaby victimhood.
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simoom Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:07:36pm |
Yeah Beck - you and Fox are so oppressed. Christ, get a grip.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:07:55pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:08:08pm |
re: #117 Pawn of the Oppressor
The guy has admitted to being creeped out by Jews and black people. He probably has no real understanding of the Holocaust in the first place.
Is there a source for that? I've heard it a few times now, but not an actual quote or clip.
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:08:29pm |
re: #115 Charles
It's amazing. The big hero of conservatives is a guy who weeps on television.
But, but...Glenn just LOVES America!
*weeps hysterically*
///
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The Left Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:08:33pm |
re: #127 austin_blue
FWIW, I read fenrisdesigns comment to be asking about 'prominent pundits, bloggers, etc on the right other than Charles' who are sane-- not saying that there was no one on the right other than Charles who is sane anymore. Maybe I misread.
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austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:09:19pm |
re: #131 Walter L. Newton
Whoa... whoa... whoa... that's H.L. Menchen to you buddy :)
Aww...come her and get a
{{{manhug}}}
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:09:53pm |
re: #153 Charles
If George W. Bush's communications director had come out and criticized MSNBC like Anita Dunn criticized Fox News, the same people who are screaming about suppression and censorship right now would have been cheering. This is pure hypocrisy, and nothing but crybaby victimhood.
No doubt. I think they should have said something during the time. At the same time I also find Anita Dunn's criticisms of Fox News to be legitimate.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:10:31pm |
re: #153 Charles
If George W. Bush's communications director had come out and criticized MSNBC like Anita Dunn criticized Fox News, the same people who are screaming about suppression and censorship right now would have been cheering. This is pure hypocrisy, and nothing but crybaby victimhood.
Yep, that's Glen Beck all over. He really does deserve his place as iceweasel and Jimmah's Face of Butthurt:
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Egregious Philbin Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:10:59pm |
I get this vision of Beck, just laughing to himself and saying "Wow, people actually eat up the shit I dish out, how much longer can I hose everyone out of $$ before they figure out my schtick?"
But, people like their cartoons, people want ranters and ravers to think for them, how sad.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:11:11pm |
re: #147 Walter L. Newton
You know, I saw that movie, obscure little thing, back and forth, colonial times, contemporary times... right?
Ok, no, I looked up Re-Animator, this is not what I was thinking. I saw some movie, I believe it was Lovecraft, that took place back and forth, colonial/contemporary times, guy with some ancient lab deep in under his colonial house, trying to put some sort of "person" together, or thing together. I don't remember more.
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:12:01pm |
re: #153 Charles
If George W. Bush's communications director had come out and criticized MSNBC like Anita Dunn criticized Fox News, the same people who are screaming about suppression and censorship right now would have been cheering. This is pure hypocrisy, and nothing but crybaby victimhood.
They have to promote victimhood, so they can promote themselves as the solution to the problems.
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kittysaidwoof Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:12:13pm |
Did Bush communications director come out and claim that MSNBC is not a valid news organization? I missed that if he did. Usually that sort of thing would have been big news here. This on the other hand was no news.
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The Left Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:12:18pm |
re: #163 Walter L. Newton
Ok, no, I looked up Re-Animator, this is not what I was thinking. I saw some movie, I believe it was Lovecraft, that took place back and forth, colonial/contemporary times, guy with some ancient lab deep in under his colonial house, trying to put some sort of "person" together, or thing together. I don't remember more.
There have been so many movies based on Lovecraft stories it's hard to keep up. This rings a vague bell with me too though.
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:12:20pm |
re: #158 iceweasel
FWIW, I read fenrisdesigns comment to be asking about 'prominent pundits, bloggers, etc on the right other than Charles' who are sane-- not saying that there was no one on the right other than Charles who is sane anymore. Maybe I misread.
It was just a poorly thought-out statement.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:12:46pm |
Biden, military expert and master of international affairs, he who counseled forced partition in Iraq and quick withdrawal, now councils the President regarding alternative ways forward in the face of Patreus, McChrystal recommendations.
Tuck the kiddies in, sleep tight folks, Joe is on the job.
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Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:12:50pm |
re: #163 Walter L. Newton
Ok, no, I looked up Re-Animator, this is not what I was thinking. I saw some movie, I believe it was Lovecraft, that took place back and forth, colonial/contemporary times, guy with some ancient lab deep in under his colonial house, trying to put some sort of "person" together, or thing together. I don't remember more.
"The Resurrected", based on the "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward", with Chris Sarandon probably
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MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:13:25pm |
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Kronocide Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:14:33pm |
A pirate walks into a bar with a steering wheel hanging from his belt over his crotch.
Bartender asks WTF?
Pirate says "arrrgh... ets driveen me noots."
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Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:14:57pm |
re: #156 SanFranciscoZionist
Is there a source for that? I've heard it a few times now, but not an actual quote or clip.
The big Slate (?) article on Beck posted here a couple of weeks ago had some background on that. Beck spent some time growing up in a sort of yuppie-ish white town in PacNW where there were hardly any minorities, and in his own words they made him uncomfortable. I'm not sure of the root source - me posting it here is third-hand information.
The man is damaged goods on a good day. I don't count on him to really understand a damned thing about the Holocaust, or Nazi Germany in general. He doesn't even make sense when he's talking about NOW.
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:15:18pm |
re: #169 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
"The Resurrected", based on the "The Case of Charles Dexter Ward", with Chris Sarandon probably
BINGO (thanks, I got the basics and Lovecraft correct) Wiki says direct to video, I liked it, some of it was a bit sloppy, but the story itself held up.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:17:21pm |
re: #137 Walter L. Newton
OT - Holy shit... someone mentioned "Cthulhu" above and I had no idea who or what the "f" that was... so, I go to Wiki and look this up.
Ok, now, how the hell am I going to get any sleep tonight?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Sorry. I run with a crowd of real specfic geeks. I assume everyone knows what Cthulhu is. Uh, do you have a night light?
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:18:19pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:18:25pm |
re: #139 redshirt
If you were to tally up their public gaffes, I think it would be pretty close.
Even if, how long has he been in the public eye, as opposed to she?
;)
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:18:29pm |
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Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:18:33pm |
re: #174 Walter L. Newton
BINGO (thanks, I got the basics and Lovecraft correct) Wiki says direct to video, I liked it, some of it was a bit sloppy, but the story itself held up.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
The movie "In the Mouth of Madness" starring Sam Neil is a good movie inspired by Lovecraft.
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Bagua Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:19:39pm |
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austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:19:46pm |
re: #138 fenrisdesigns
I'm sorry. I didn't realize that was an offensive statement and will take better care next time.
Umm, we're cool, right?
Of course! That's the point! Be aware that folks of different persuasions are reading your every post. Be sensitive to them. Disagree without rancor, and back up your objections with solid facts and/or life experiences. Don't be an ideologue.
((For a quick syllabus on an ideologue on the Liberal side who posted only for his own ego, see Gordon (aka Nodrog). He has his own website where he gleefully crows about his own "triumphs" in shouting down other posters on LGF. Gordon was useless to the dialog. He was a simply a barker from the left side of the aisle. It was all about, Nodrog, not the discussion.)))
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Walter L. Newton Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:20:19pm |
re: #177 SanFranciscoZionist
Sorry. I run with a crowd of real specfic geeks. I assume everyone knows what Cthulhu is. Uh, do you have a night light?
I live on two acres in the Rocky Mountains at 8200 feet, a husky, a lab and a red healer (and a girlfriend)... nothing can get into this... wait... I hear something... BBIAB...
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Alan K. Henderson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:20:41pm |
Looks like Cthulhu ate my last comment.
Bush didn't need a comm director who makes sweeping (and false) generalizations about a network. He needed one who fisks individual news stories. There's a difference.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:21:21pm |
re: #157 talon_262
But, but...Glenn just LOVES America!
*weeps hysterically*
///
Well, hell, I love artichokes, but I don't start crying ever' damn time I see one!
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:21:34pm |
re: #179 SanFranciscoZionist
Even if, how long has he been in the public eye, as opposed to she?
;)
I am talking only in terms of during the election cycle, not entire careers.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:23:23pm |
re: #188 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, hell, I love artichokes, but I don't start crying ever' damn time I see one!
There is not one good deli in the state of Texas
*tears welling up*
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The Left Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:24:40pm |
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:25:27pm |
re: #187 Alan K. Henderson
Looks like Cthulhu ate my last comment.
Bush didn't need a comm director who makes sweeping (and false) generalizations about a network. He needed one who fisks individual news stories. There's a difference.
I agreed with your main point, but the first sentence could be taken as snarky.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:25:40pm |
re: #191 dimestorenovel
Someone should go check on Walter...
Let's split up! You check the basement.
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:25:43pm |
re: #192 iceweasel
Oh I loved Dagon! I thought it was great B movie horror.
My absolute favourite bad movie is the Dunwich Horror from the 70's though.
[Video]
The narration killed me! I wanted to rip my ears off.
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Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:25:44pm |
re: #191 dimestorenovel
Someone should go check on Walter...
Just stay away from corners, the woods, the beach, caves, and beware of pipings and you'll be fine.
That and never dream again.
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:26:38pm |
re: #194 SanFranciscoZionist
Let's split up! You check the basement.
i think i should be the one to check the basement, nic and all...
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Danny Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:27:01pm |
re: #196 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Just stay away from corners, the woods, the beach, caves, and beware of pipings and you'll be fine.
That and never dream again.
And don't open the damn door!! Jeezus, seems like always make that mistake.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:27:37pm |
And stay away from the stairs, up or down!
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austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:28:04pm |
re: #190 The Shadow Do
There is not one good deli in the state of Texas
*tears welling up*
Well, we've got Katz's here in Austin, and I would have to agree with you. As one of my Red Sea Pedestrian buds, a transplant from Bawlmer said, "Jewish food at Christian prices. And it's not that good."
I fell over laughing.
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Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:28:42pm |
re: #199 Danny
And don't open the damn door!! Jeezus, seems like always make that mistake.
And if you hear scratching inside the walls, just let it be.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:29:13pm |
re: #201 austin_blue
Well, we've got Katz's here in Austin, and I would have to agree with you. As one of my Red Sea Pedestrian buds, a transplant from Bawlmer said, "Jewish food at Christian prices. And it's not that good."
I fell over laughing.
LOL
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:29:17pm |
re: #198 redshirt
i think i should be the one to check the basement, nic and all...
OK--or do you want to go into the attic that's been locked for ten years tonight, since the professor's sister died mysteriously?
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austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:29:54pm |
re: #204 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
And if you hear scratching inside the walls, just let it be.
Probably raccoons, anyway...
Unless...
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simoom Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:30:01pm |
re: #137 Walter L. Newton
Trailer - The Call of Cthulhu:
H. P. Lovecraft's classic tale of Weird Mystery and Cosmic Terror comes to vivid life on the silver screen!A man tormented by secrets ~
A heroic Police Inspector -- what he finds in the swamp!
The brave Sea Captain & his ill-fated crew -- what Horror they unleash!
This spring, the stars will at last be right...
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Steffan Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:30:49pm |
OK, I give up.
What is he smoking, and why isn't he sharing?
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:31:21pm |
re: #207 SanFranciscoZionist
OK--or do you want to go into the attic that's been locked for ten years tonight, since the professor's sister died mysteriously?
No, we should chose a denfensible room and stay there. Austin especially, since he's got the HK-91. Some monster problems can be solved with a little Formula 7.62.
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:31:31pm |
Be in before sun down with garlic and a mirror at your doors. Keep the wooden stakes and hammer nearby and make sure the windows and doors are sufficiently boarded.
Tonight they arrive.
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BlackFedora Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:31:32pm |
Well... just like Bush was not a brutal dictator. Obama (even though its comfortable to believe the worst about him.) is not a brutal dictator either. He isn't Hugo Chavez. I'm 99.9% sure Fox survives his administration.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:32:50pm |
OMG, has anyone heard from Walter lately?
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ArchangelMichael Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:33:05pm |
re: #211 Steffan
OK, I give up.
What is he smoking, and why isn't he sharing?
"I thought you said this was Indo... It smells like Outdo."
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austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:33:13pm |
re: #209 simoom
Trailer - The Call of Cthulhu:
[Video]
The modern master of the genre is Neil Gaiman. His short story collections will Creep. You. Out.
Good stuff.
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wee fury Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:34:12pm |
re: #215 The Shadow Do
OMG, has anyone heard from Walter lately?
But, do we want too? He may have BEEN changed. Dramatically.
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:34:50pm |
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:35:24pm |
Here, let's let a fellow follower of Eris explain Glenn Beck's tenderness. You see, he sees the fnords.
Our favorite gang of Truthers and NWO-ers were quick to find out that when it is possible to transpose the O in Fox with an AU, and that it looked great on a T-shirt as a result. However, in doing so, they were forced to remove the O, destroying a secret message. Yes, if you look reeeaaal closely, you'll see an N between the F and O, and a RD between the O and X.
According to The Illuminatus! Trilogy, the sheeples are trained to not see the word "fnord" throughout their academic years, and to use the word as an unconscious trigger for fear. Now, what happens when you have the word FnOrdX in front of you all day, sometimes five times a day?
And hail Eris and such.
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boyo Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:35:44pm |
hahaha
just came in to read up
loving the whole Walter side story going on right now :D
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:35:49pm |
re: #217 austin_blue
The modern master of the genre is Neil Gaiman. His short story collections will Creep. You. Out.
Good stuff.
I strongly recommend American Gods and Anansi Boys by Gaiman to anyone who cares for literaryish contemporary fantasy that knocks your socks off.
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austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:36:05pm |
re: #215 The Shadow Do
OMG, has anyone heard from Walter lately?
He has been, eerily, silent...
Oh, noes!!
The Dire Wolf!
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Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:36:31pm |
re: #218 The Shadow Do
He went out there, I know he did...
In the mountains, at night, where the Wind Walker waits
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:36:54pm |
re: #219 wee fury
But, do we want too? He may have BEEN changed. Dramatically.
Oh no, will he have one of those long necked snappy toothed things popping out of his chest? That would be just awful.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:37:00pm |
re: #222 boyo
hahaha
just came in to read up
loving the whole Walter side story going on right now :D
Glad you're having fun. We may have just lost a lizard...to UNSPEAKABLE EVIL.
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austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:37:53pm |
re: #223 SanFranciscoZionist
I strongly recommend American Gods and Anansi Boys by Gaiman to anyone who cares for literaryish contemporary fantasy that knocks your socks off.
My goodness, you are a fantastically attractive human!
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:37:58pm |
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:40:32pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:41:06pm |
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Aye Pod Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:41:08pm |
Random music interlude no 1 (this one is dedicated to i-dub):
I'm the bitch you hated, filth infatuated.
Yeah, I'm the pain you tasted, fell intoxicated
I'm a firestarter, twisted firestarter,
you're the firestarter, twisted firestarter.
I'm the self-inflicted, punk detonator.
Yeah, I'm the one invented, twisted animator.
I'm a firestarter, twisted firestarter,
you're the firestarter, twisted firestarter.
starter... starter... starter...
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:41:24pm |
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:42:26pm |
re: #233 Jimmah
I'd rather have that remain my favorite basketball team's intro music than become her theme song.
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:42:42pm |
re: #231 WindUpBird
Ia! The Family Circus one kills me. :D I did some art for Chaosium several years ago. Great games! Company has a habit of not paying their illustrators, though. >_>
Not being paid is bad.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:42:49pm |
When next you see Walter, will it really be Walter?
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dimestorenovel Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:42:54pm |
Always listen to the house...
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:43:32pm |
re: #236 redshirt
Not being paid is bad.
Welcome to freelance illustration. :P My current employers are a lot more honorable, though!
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:43:51pm |
re: #237 The Shadow Do
When next you see Walter, will it really be Walter?
Now I'm tripping out, man. That's heavy. How will we ever know?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:44:58pm |
re: #223 SanFranciscoZionist
I strongly recommend American Gods and Anansi Boys by Gaiman to anyone who cares for literaryish contemporary fantasy that knocks your socks off.
I hope you've gotten ahold of his comics, too!
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bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:45:06pm |
re: #139 redshirt
If you were to tally up their public gaffes, I think it would be pretty close.
Of course you would be comparing 36 years in the public eye to just 13.5 months.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:45:11pm |
re: #240 Sharmuta
Now I'm tripping out, man. That's heavy. How will we ever know?
We won't, until it is too late...
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dimestorenovel Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:45:15pm |
re: #240 Sharmuta
tie him up and test his blood ala The Thing
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:45:39pm |
re: #237 The Shadow Do
When next you see Walter, will it really be Walter?
Or will he have become part of Plan 9 From Outer Space?
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:45:46pm |
re: #238 dimestorenovel
Always listen to the house...
I must say, you can see his point. I mean, really. A house outweighs you considerably. Do you really want to go hand-to-hand with one?
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under the whip Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:46:03pm |
Beck was obviously invoking the poem "First They Came..." by Martin Niemöller. Whether or not you think it was appropriate in this context, he joins a long list to have done the same thing.
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:46:25pm |
re: #242 bratwurst
Of course you would be comparing 36 years in the public eye to just 13.5 months.
I already said I am only talking about during the election.
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Aye Pod Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:46:47pm |
re: #235 TheMatrix31
I'd rather have that remain my favorite basketball team's intro music than become her theme song.
As it happens I hate your favourite basketball team and would much rather it be her theme song. Ain't diversity of opinion a beautiful thing? :D
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:47:01pm |
re: #241 WindUpBird
I hope you've gotten ahold of his comics, too!
I was introduced to Sandman back in college. Must admit that I prefer more words, less gore, overall, though.
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Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:47:04pm |
re: #244 dimestorenovel
tie him up and test his blood ala The Thing
Wouldn't work if a necromancer had rendered him down to his essential salts.
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:47:36pm |
re: #247 under the whip
Beck was obviously invoking the poem "First They Came..." by Martin Niemöller. Whether or not you think it was appropriate in this context, he joins a long list to have done the same thing.
He was? OK, let's see what that poem says:
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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simoom Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:47:50pm |
Aww, looks like I can't up-ding anymore (there's a 50 comment minimum requirement now) :P. Must have been recently implemented to stymie the mass-dinging, sock puppet trolls.
So no dings for you all until 30 more comments :P.
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:48:20pm |
re: #256 simoom
Didn't we see something like this at the Berkeley treesits?
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dimestorenovel Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:48:33pm |
re: #253 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
right right. How could I have forgotten? You take two weeks off...
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bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:48:59pm |
re: #168 The Shadow Do
Biden, military expert and master of international affairs, he who counseled forced partition in Iraq and quick withdrawal, now councils the President regarding alternative ways forward in the face of Patreus, McChrystal recommendations.
Tuck the kiddies in, sleep tight folks, Joe is on the job.
Certainly very relevant to a discussion of Glenn Beck invoking the Holocaust.
Once again, it is impossible to mention anyone or anything bad or just plain foolish on the right without a chorus of "oh yeah? the left sucks too!"
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:49:53pm |
re: #261 bratwurst
Certainly very relevant to a discussion of Glenn Beck invoking the Holocaust.
Once again, it is impossible to mention anyone or anything bad or just plain foolish on the right without a chorus of "oh yeah? the left sucks too!"
read the whole thread, sometimes different topics come up.
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Sharmuta Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:49:57pm |
re: #256 simoom
Aww, looks like I can't up-ding anymore (there's a 50 comment minimum requirement now) :P. Must have been recently implemented to stymie the mass-dinging, sock puppet trolls.
So no dings for you all until 30 more comments :P.
Get typing. We all want some karma. ;p
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Splatt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:50:28pm |
What has happened is that at this point only 20% of those polled say they identify themselves as republicans. Their base has shrunk by we may never know how much. And so now FOX news is left with having to resort to attempting to legitimize the LaRouchers and these crazed, bug-eyed conspiracy theorists and calling them "the sleeping giant." Notice how they wouldn't show any of the crazier and offensive signs from the 9/12 march? I think the most important thing to take away from this is that Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh et all couldn't deliver a PIZZA, let alone an election. It's just disturbing to have to witness while it's happening.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:50:34pm |
re: #247 under the whip
Beck was obviously invoking the poem "First They Came..." by Martin Niemöller. Whether or not you think it was appropriate in this context, he joins a long list to have done the same thing.
Well, yes, that's what he was invoking. And no, I don't think it was appropriate in this context at all.
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Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:51:01pm |
re: #259 dimestorenovel
right right. How could I have forgotten? You take two weeks off...
Time to get working on Elder Signs
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:51:06pm |
From the 1950s on, he was a vocal pacifist and anti-war activist, and vice-chair of War Resisters' International from 1966 to 1972. He met with Ho Chi Minh during the Vietnam War and was a committed campaigner for nuclear disarmament.
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The Left Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:51:34pm |
re: #250 Jimmah
As it happens I hate your favourite basketball team and would much rather it be her theme song. Ain't diversity of opinion a beautiful thing? :D
ha! Reminds me of this classic onion article.
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ArchangelMichael Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:51:42pm |
Oh FFS... The Phelps Cult is coming to town this weekend. Looks like they are protesting just about everywhere for 4 days too.
I hate these kooks. Back when GWB was president, this cult was denounced on right wing talk radio every time they popped up. I wonder if they will do the same now.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:52:14pm |
re: #261 bratwurst
Certainly very relevant to a discussion of Glenn Beck invoking the Holocaust.
Once again, it is impossible to mention anyone or anything bad or just plain foolish on the right without a chorus of "oh yeah? the left sucks too!"
Sort of lost the context of that particular exchange, but that's ok.
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Alan K. Henderson Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:53:28pm |
Here's someone who doesn't violate Godwin's Law:
Anita Dunn is really Baghdad Bob in drag.
There is a touch of similarity...
Baghdad Bob: "I blame Al-Jazeera - they are marketing for the Americans!"
Anita Dunn: "What I think is fair to say about Fox -- and certainly it's the way we view it -- is that it really is more a wing of the Republican Party,"
I wonder how she'd look in a beret?
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freetoken Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:54:04pm |
A special Christmas gift for Glenn Beck:
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:55:01pm |
re: #270 ArchangelMichael
Oh FFS... The Phelps Cult is coming to town this weekend. Looks like they are protesting just about everywhere for 4 days too.
I hate these kooks. Back when GWB was president, this cult was denounced on right wing talk radio every time they popped up. I wonder if they will do the same now.
Oh gawds, I remember when they came to Houston to protest Pvt. Nathaniel Given's funeral. Well, I kinda-sorta remember. There was about a mile worth of Patriot Riders between him and myself at the time, and I needed to find his flier online to confirm that they were there for the reason I suspected.
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:55:20pm |
Funny how right wingers are always quoting communists and socialists of late. Even in their feeble attempt to build on their anti-communist hysteria. Even George Orwell who was a communist or Ayn Rand who was an atheist. All of which goes against the James Dobsonesque wingnut ideology of late.
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SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:55:52pm |
Well, it's getting late, and there's no sign of Walter. I'm going to go down to the lonely stretch of shore by the caves and see if maybe he's down there. Back in a bit.
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:56:03pm |
re: #270 ArchangelMichael
Oh FFS... The Phelps Cult is coming to town this weekend. Looks like they are protesting just about everywhere for 4 days too.
I hate these kooks. Back when GWB was president, this cult was denounced on right wing talk radio every time they popped up. I wonder if they will do the same now.
Yes, they will. Nobody defends Phelps. Even Ron Paul considers Phelps beyond the pale.
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The Left Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:56:14pm |
re: #270 ArchangelMichael
Oh FFS... The Phelps Cult is coming to town this weekend. Looks like they are protesting just about everywhere for 4 days too.
I hate these kooks. Back when GWB was president, this cult was denounced on right wing talk radio every time they popped up. I wonder if they will do the same now.
Ah, a new Onion op-ed is perfect for this:
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bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:56:18pm |
re: #271 The Shadow Do
Seemed as if you brought up Biden lest anyone to the left of you was feeling smug.
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boyo Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:56:27pm |
no SFZ dont do it!!!
(yells at movie screen err..monitor)
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:57:19pm |
re: #278 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, it's getting late, and there's no sign of Walter. I'm going to go down to the lonely stretch of shore by the caves and see if maybe he's down there. Back in a bit.
Don't do it San Fran, don't do it...
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:57:40pm |
It's like a Tea Bagger talking about "socialized medicine" that receives Medicare benefits while at the same time praising Ronald Reagan that fought against Medicare and Medicaid during the Operation Coffee Cup campaign.
Cognitive dissonance knows no bounds.
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:58:02pm |
Praise be to Cthuhlu, that's another task I can cross off my list! These chapter-long readings for Advertising Design are a pain, but I'm learning through example.
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Aye Pod Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:58:11pm |
re: #269 iceweasel
ha! Reminds me of this classic onion article.
Doubled up in agonies of mirth here! :) Perfectly crystallises my own feelings on the total stupidity of getting emotionally involved in following local sports. (sorry sports fans - I respect you but I don't understand you!).
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 10:59:32pm |
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ArchangelMichael Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:00:36pm |
re: #280 iceweasel
Ah, a new Onion op-ed is perfect for this:
Looks like most of the places they are protesting are Jewish community centers and charities. Apparently "God Hates Jews" is higher on their list than homosexuals this time.
There are a bunch of churches on that list that would be a leap of illogic to call "liberal" by any means too. The Horizon Place put on a big DI sponsored intelligent design symposium recently as far as I know. I saw big signs for it when I drove by their other location in Rancho Santa Fe.
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bratwurst Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:01:07pm |
re: #289 Gus 802
"Bridges" and "Secrets" have finally been released on CD in the US!
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austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:01:30pm |
Well, I am off to Dallas tomorrow for a two-day vapor intrusion class. I will be escaping the metroplex on Friday, even as the ravenous hordes are arriving for the UT- OU weekend. Bradford vs. McCoy in a Heisman showdown!
(((God bless continuing education... I can't believe the EPA scheduled this class when they did. Thursday night is going to be a zoo.)))
Good night, Lizards. May you have sweet dreams.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:01:32pm |
I will go looking for Walter but first I will need the company of a barely clothed young female to accompany me into the forested darkeness...
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Splatt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:02:08pm |
And in the meantime, while we're all distracted with this monkeyshit, oil JUST NOW hit $75 a barrel. Happy days are here again!
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The Left Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:03:00pm |
re: #288 Jimmah
Doubled up in agonies of mirth here! :) Perfectly crystallises my own feelings on the total stupidity of getting emotionally involved in following local sports. (sorry sports fans - I respect you but I don't understand you!).
Oh good. Glad we agree on that. World Cup, ok, I will watch a little.
That's pretty much it though.
If you need another reason why the sporting franchise representing my area is superior, look no further than the supporters for the two sides. Not only are the supporters of the team from my region more spirited, but they are also more intelligent and of finer breeding than you and the rest of your ilk.
heh.
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Kragar Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:03:06pm |
re: #294 The Shadow Do
I will go looking for Walter but first I will need the company of a barely clothed young female to accompany me into the forested darkeness...
I think I can see a female figure playing in the woods under the light of the gibbous moon. Whats the worst it could be?
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:03:11pm |
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ArchangelMichael Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:03:17pm |
re: #279 Dark_Falcon
Yes, they will. Nobody defends Phelps. Even Ron Paul considers Phelps beyond the pale.
I know they wont defend him, I'm just wondering if since they don't seem to be protesting a funeral of an Iraq war veteran, if they will just ignore this. Will there be silencio from Hedgecock, Roberts, and the usual suspects?
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:03:31pm |
re: #293 austin_blue
Well, I am off to Dallas tomorrow for a two-day vapor intrusion class. I will be escaping the metroplex on Friday, even as the ravenous hordes are arriving for the UT- OU weekend. Bradford vs. McCoy in a Heisman showdown!
(((God bless continuing education... I can't believe the EPA scheduled this class when they did. Thursday night is going to be a zoo.)))
Good night, Lizards. May you have sweet dreams.
You need a class to learn how to fart?
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The Left Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:05:04pm |
re: #294 The Shadow Do
I will go looking for Walter but first I will need the company of a barely clothed young female to accompany me into the forested darkeness...
No way dude. Unless she's a virgin, that's like wearing the red shirt on Star Trek.
(apologies to our own redshirt)
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under the whip Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:05:39pm |
re: #268 Gus 802
From the 1950s on, he was a vocal pacifist and anti-war activist, and vice-chair of War Resisters' International from 1966 to 1972. He met with Ho Chi Minh during the Vietnam War and was a committed campaigner for nuclear disarmament.
Interesting, Gus. This might help to flesh out his biography even more:
Martin Niemöller was a German pastor and theologian born in Lippstadt, Germany, in 1892. Niemöller was an anti-Communist and supported Hitler's rise to power at first. But when Hitler insisted on the supremacy of the state over religion, Niemöller became disillusioned. He became the leader of a group of German clergymen opposed to Hitler. Unlike Niemöller, they gave in to the Nazis' threats. Hitler personally detested Niemöller and in 1937 had him arrested and eventually confined in the Sachsenhausen and Dachau concentration camps. Niemöller was released in 1945 by the Allies. He continued his career in Germany as a clergyman and as a leading voice of penance and reconciliation for the German people after World War II. His poem is well-known, frequently quoted, and is a popular model for describing the dangers of political apathy, as it often begins with specific and targeted fear and hatred which soon escalates out of control.
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:06:02pm |
re: #298 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
I think I can see a female figure playing in the woods under the light of the gibbous moon. Whats the worst it could be?
Nancy Pelosi?
Poor Walter
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Dark_Falcon Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:06:24pm |
re: #300 ArchangelMichael
I know they wont defend him, I'm just wondering if since they don't seem to be protesting a funeral of an Iraq war veteran, if they will just ignore this. Will there be silencio from Hedgecock, Roberts, and the usual suspects?
That, i cannot answer. I'd like to think they'll tear into Phelps but I can't be sure.
I'm going to bed now. All my doors are locked and my windows are sealed, which only leaves the closet to check. Hmm, nothing in here, or over th- AUGGHHH!
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:07:37pm |
re: #305 The Shadow Do
Nancy Pelosi?
Poor Walter
Yea, poor Nancy's been dealing with that nagging case of lycanthropy. You know how seasonal ailments go.
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cliffster Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:07:51pm |
re: #286 Gus 802
It's like a Tea Bagger talking about "socialized medicine" that receives Medicare benefits while at the same time praising Ronald Reagan that fought against Medicare and Medicaid during the Operation Coffee Cup campaign.
Cognitive dissonance knows no bounds.
It would be interesting for a conversation to be about what is being said, and not about who is saying it.
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:09:31pm |
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The Shadow Do Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:09:46pm |
re: #307 fenrisdesigns
Yea, poor Nancy's been dealing with that nagging case of lycanthropy. You know how seasonal ailments go.
Owooo!
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:11:09pm |
re: #307 fenrisdesigns
Yea, poor Nancy's been dealing with that nagging case of lycanthropy. You know how seasonal ailments go.
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goddamnedfrank Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:11:23pm |
Tonight's Daily Show, Jon Stewart to Glen Beck:
"Who cuts your hair, and why are they so mad at you?"
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:12:05pm |
re: #312 goddamnedfrank
He's a moron too. All these TV people are.
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:12:20pm |
re: #310 The Shadow Do
Owooo!
Speaking of, there's a Ren Fest in Plantersville on the 31st. Since France has the Beast of Gevaudan, Germany has Peter Stubbe, and Wisconsin has the Bray Road Beast, you think it's time for Texas to get Fenris'd?
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under the whip Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:12:26pm |
I are: #309 Gus 802
Comparing Glenn Beck to Martin Niemöller is a joke.
I agree. Who did such a thing?
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austin_blue Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:15:37pm |
re: #302 redshirt
You need a class to learn how to fart?
Haha! That's funny!
Contaminant fate and transport through various foundation media. Static groundwater levels vs. excursions due to significant rain events. Soil/gas migration vs. direct groundwater interface.
I don't think farting will will be on the syllabus.
Could be wrong, though. Are you teaching a module?
///
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Filala Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:17:01pm |
re: #32 Charles
I head the same point being made, that if you don't stand up to bullies in the beginning you'll only get more of the same, and no one will be around to help you when the the trouble is aimed at you.
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Fenris Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:17:22pm |
re: #311 redshirt
That was actually a little attractive. And with that I think I'll be turning in.
If you hear any reports the next morning of a wild dog in Houston, swearing like a sailor and looking for things to draw, no need to look at me.
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spiderx Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:17:57pm |
re: #265 Splatt
Notice how they wouldn't show any of the crazier and offensive signs from the 9/12 march?
FOX and more specifically Bill O'reilly play this game where they say "show me evidence of FOX's bias" . Yeah it's laughable. I could turn on FOX at any time of the day and watch for 5 minutes to get that evidence.
but the quick answer to that next time some fox apologist says that is to point out that FOX did not show any of the crazy signs at the 9/12 tea party event. Not one.
Their coverage of the tea parties is the evidence. You don't need to have taken a journalism course at a university to know that FOX's coverage of those tea parties was not journalism. It was advocacy.
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shiplord kirel Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:18:36pm |
First they came for Beck and Limbaugh, but I wasn't a wingnut, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the racists, but I wasn't a racist, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the conspiracy theorists, but I wasn't a conspiracy buff, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the creationists, but I wasn't a creationist, so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the gun owners...
...and that's when I shot them.
///
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:19:09pm |
re: #317 austin_blue
Haha! That's funny!
Contaminant fate and transport through various foundation media. Static groundwater levels vs. excursions due to significant rain events. Soil/gas migration vs. direct groundwater interface.
I don't think farting will will be on the syllabus.
Could be wrong, though. Are you teaching a module?
///
No more teaching since I got off lactose!
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redshirt Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:19:56pm |
re: #319 fenrisdesigns
That was actually a little attractive. And with that I think I'll be turning in.
If you hear any reports the next morning of a wild dog in Houston, swearing like a sailor and looking for things to draw, no need to look at me.
A little attractive?
Dude, that's Shakira!
(Even if you aren't a dude)
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The Left Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:21:20pm |
re: #320 spiderx
FOX and more specifically Bill O'reilly play this game where they say "show me evidence of FOX's bias" . Yeah it's laughable. I could turn on FOX at any time of the day and watch for 5 minutes to get that evidence.
but the quick answer to that next time some fox apologist says that is to point out that FOX did not show any of the crazy signs at the 9/12 tea party event. Not one.
Their coverage of the tea parties is the evidence. You don't need to have taken a journalism course at a university to know that FOX's coverage of those tea parties was not journalism. It was advocacy.
Of course it was. The April 15 protests were talked up endlessly on Fox and Fox even referred to them as FNC TaxDay TeaParties.
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TheMatrix31 Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:22:17pm |
"I'm all for women who get plastic surgery. Because plastic surgery allows you to make your outer appearance resemble your inner appearance -- fake."
- Daniel Tosh
...seriously.
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Gus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:26:09pm |
re: #324 iceweasel
Of course it was. The April 15 protests were talked up endlessly on Fox and Fox even referred to them as FNC TaxDay TeaParties.
The reality is that the anti-healthcare legislation people are marching for insurance corporations unbeknownst to them. Nothing new since we had some people here at LGF pimping for credit card companies life fools a couple of months ago.
| 327 |
goddamnedfrank Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:28:42pm |
re: #313 TheMatrix31
He's a moron too. All these TV people are.
Yeah, but no. Feel free to disagree with Jon's politics if you wish, but he usually backs up rhetoric with intelligent analysis and apt metaphor. In the end moranity is a rather subjective criterion upon which to judge a personality, sanity on the other hand ...
... and on this scale Beck is scraping the bottom of the barrel, all false equivalence not withstanding.
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Filala Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:29:23pm |
re: #48 kittysaidwoof
I agree with you on this point, and I'm really stunned with the thought that freedom of the press and of talk radio can be in danger in the United States. Look what's happening to Michael Savage, banned from entering England because its politically incorrect to ban only Islamists. There is only silence from his talk radio competitors and nothing in the MSM that I've seen.
I wonder if the fairness doctrine is imposed, will liberal shows have to balance out their programs with conservative commentators?
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Aye Pod Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:39:41pm |
re: #297 iceweasel
Oh good. Glad we agree on that. World Cup, ok, I will watch a little.
That's pretty much it though.
Guess what? Exactly my take on sports. World cup/certain major intenational events - ok! - the rest :forget it. Not remotely interested :)
| 330 |
ArchangelMichael Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:44:58pm |
re: #329 Jimmah
Guess what? Exactly my take on sports. World cup/certain major intenational events - ok! - the rest :forget it. Not remotely interested :)
That's 'cause yer Anti-Amuricahn libruhs!
/
| 331 |
The Left Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:54:44pm |
re: #330 ArchangelMichael
That's 'cause yer Anti-Amuricahn libruhs!
/
That's cos we can think of other sports to engage in. ;-)
| 332 |
bratwurst Wed, Oct 14, 2009 12:15:13am |
re: #309 Gus 802
Was it banned prior or just a regular release?.
Nothing like it, it is just that their later A&M releases never got put on CD.
| 333 |
theheat Wed, Oct 14, 2009 1:39:01am |
I can't think of Beck as another outrageous loon any more. He's far more than that, and he has a lot of people hanging on his every word, sopping up his brand of bullshit. He distorts, he exaggerates, he outright lies. Stupid people take all this at face value, then run with it.
And funny today, that two of the biggest loudmouth doughboy jackasses on the airwaves, Beck and Limbaugh, both throw a pity party. Perhaps Michael Steele should DJ that one.
It's turd soup.
| 334 |
brandon13 Wed, Oct 14, 2009 2:05:53am |
re: #313 TheMatrix31
He's a moron too. All these TV people are.
Maybe so, but Stewart isn't dangerous. Beck is.
| 335 |
Alan K. Henderson Wed, Oct 14, 2009 3:11:37am |
re: #307 fenrisdesigns
Yea, poor Nancy's been dealing with that nagging case of lycanthropy. You know how seasonal ailments go.
I saw Nancy drinking a pina colada at Trader Vic's...
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kittysaidwoof Wed, Oct 14, 2009 3:13:09am |
Why is Beck dangerous? As I understand he is a fairly popular talk show host with sometimes loony ideas (again, all my information of him is based on clips on LGF and some other blogs), but why does that make him more dangerous than other talk show hosts with loony ideas? Based on the occasional clips I've seen, Olbermann doesn't seem any less loony, but has far more irritating manner of presentation.
As far as I can tell from across the ocean Fox News is not just Glenn Beck and the WH communications director's attack was not just about Glenn Beck, but about a whole network which by coincidence happens to be the most or perhaps the only major network critical of the most powerful person on earth. And it was not criticism of a particular story or a particular host, but a claim that the whole network is not a valid news organization. Also by coincidence this type of attack happens to be one of the ways many not so democratic political leaders have begun the process of putting a leash on the media. The next step would be to claim tax irregularities or some procedural misdemeanors or something similar.
While invoking nazis at this point seems vulgar to my fine European tastes, it seems pretty much par for the course. Poor Niemöller has been marched out in criticism of pretty much every major US policy issue at least for the last 10 years, or so it seems to me.
At first they came for the Iraqi tyrants, but I did nothing.
I am not an Iraqi tyrant...
you know the rest
obLovecraft:
Ia! Shub-Niggurath, the Black Goat of the Woods with the Thousand Young! Cthulhu fhtagn!
| 337 |
freetoken Wed, Oct 14, 2009 3:20:15am |
re: #336 kittysaidwoof
Why is Beck dangerous?
Glenn Beck:
(1) is encouraging, attending, and promoting the rallies of the Tea Partiers and the general revanchist protests;
(2) is actively promoting Ron Paul's goal to destroy US institutions such as the Federal Reserve;
(3) is actively campaigning to destroy whatever credibility is left of the opposition opinions to the current political party in power.
Glenn Beck is poison to the US political atmosphere.
| 338 |
Wozza Matter? Wed, Oct 14, 2009 4:45:16am |
Godwin's Law needs to be rewritten to be include the ol' cable teevee-a-vision box... and then made enforceable by the FCC.
| 340 |
Sully33 Wed, Oct 14, 2009 4:50:30am |
I wonder when idiots will get tired of using the all purpose Hitler analogy.
I'm not holding my breath btw.
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dean_k Wed, Oct 14, 2009 5:00:18am |
re: #328 Filala
Look what's happening to Michael Savage, banned from entering England because its politically incorrect to ban only Islamists.
Although that has nothing whatsoever to do with the United States. Britain has every right to bar anyone it wants to from crossing it's borders.
| 342 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Oct 14, 2009 5:05:28am |
re: #16 redshirt
I wonder who will be the first person to speculate that Obama will cancel the elections in 2012 for "national security" reasons.
Reminds me of an Australian lefty who marveled that the John Howard regime permitted the elections that unseated him, apparently forgetting all the elections that the "regime" had permitted before that.
| 343 |
funky chicken Wed, Oct 14, 2009 5:05:36am |
re: #30 Alan K. Henderson
I don't think the comparing the severity of the oppression of the Jews to the severity of the oppression of Fox News. Beck calls attention to the age-old principle: don't gloat when your government steals the freedoms of a constituency you don't like, cuz such a State will eventually come around to stealing yours. Mention that principle, and almost everybody (at least in the West) will first think of the Holocaust, thanks to Martin Niemöller.
Perhaps Beck could have picked a less deadly example, like the US tax code, or that form of double jeopardy where one is tried first criminally and then civilly for the same crime. First they came for OJ...
Did I just fail to take my own advice?
OJ murdered 2 people. You're going to cry that he was persecuted by that civil trial?
And give me a call when "they" load Glenn Beck on a railroad car that's destined for a concentration camp. Up until then, "they" haven't come for anybody.
| 344 |
Wozza Matter? Wed, Oct 14, 2009 5:06:53am |
re: #341 dean_k
Although that has nothing whatsoever to do with the United States. Britain has every right to bar anyone it wants to from crossing it's borders.
(up ding)
damn straight.
Could give you a very long list of people The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland have banned who were not Islamist radicals - most for very good reason.
| 345 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Oct 14, 2009 5:06:57am |
re: #338 wozzablog
Godwin's Law needs to be rewritten to be include the ol' cable teevee-a-vision box... and then made enforceable by the FCC.
Which would only confirm the Beckers in their paranoia.
| 346 |
akarra Wed, Oct 14, 2009 5:10:58am |
re: #7 peterb
What drives me nuts, what makes me furiously crazy frustrated, is the people who think they are conservatives who think this guy is helping the cause.
Couldn't agree with you more: there are so many willing to go out on a limb to defend speech like this. It's just insane right now.
| 348 |
spoosmith Wed, Oct 14, 2009 5:17:50am |
re: #320 spiderx
FOX and more specifically Bill O'reilly play this game where they say "show me evidence of FOX's bias" . Yeah it's laughable. I could turn on FOX at any time of the day and watch for 5 minutes to get that evidence.
but the quick answer to that next time some fox apologist says that is to point out that FOX did not show any of the crazy signs at the 9/12 tea party event. Not one.
Their coverage of the tea parties is the evidence. You don't need to have taken a journalism course at a university to know that FOX's coverage of those tea parties was not journalism. It was advocacy.
There was a clip that surfaced from one of the latest tea parties (not sure if Charles posted it) that showed a FOX producer getting the tea party crowd all riled up - inciting them. The wall-to-wall coverage that was given to the tea parties and PROMOTED by FOX's biggest names give lie to their assertion that they played no part.
I also love how, when a rebuplican has been caught in an unseemly situation, FOX labels them as DEMS. Classy.
| 349 |
Decatur Deb Wed, Oct 14, 2009 5:20:16am |
re: #134 Jimmah
Can't upding yet, but that's quality stuff.
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The Sanity Inspector Wed, Oct 14, 2009 6:14:52am |
re: #349 Decatur Deb
Can't upding yet, but that's quality stuff.
I'll give it a surrogate upding for you. I'm pretty sure that surrogate updinging is legal in my state, nowadays.
| 351 |
MandyManners Wed, Oct 14, 2009 6:20:06am |
re: #348 spoosmith
There was a clip that surfaced from one of the latest tea parties (not sure if Charles posted it) that showed a FOX producer getting the tea party crowd all riled up - inciting them. The wall-to-wall coverage that was given to the tea parties and PROMOTED by FOX's biggest names give lie to their assertion that they played no part.
I also love how, when a rebuplican has been caught in an unseemly situation, FOX labels them as DEMS. Classy.
Link?
| 352 |
Nemesis6 Wed, Oct 14, 2009 6:21:39am |
America, why do you put clowns on TV without clown suits?
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drcordell Wed, Oct 14, 2009 6:23:45am |
re: #351 MandyManners
Link?
Fox News Producer rallying teabaggers:
[Link: www.politico.com...]
Fox News labeling disgraced Republicans as Democrats:
[Link: mediamatters.org...]
[Link: www.bradblog.com...]
| 354 |
The Sanity Inspector Wed, Oct 14, 2009 6:27:13am |
| 356 |
Yashmak Wed, Oct 14, 2009 7:39:41am |
re: #115 Charles
It's amazing. The big hero of conservatives is a guy who weeps on television.
I just have to shake my head and chuckle. I recall a certain ex-senator who ran against Obama in the Dem primary for Pres who teared up publicly and was criticized extensively by these same people for doing so. It's as if they react to current events with no memory of what they were doing 6 months ago.
| 357 |
elclynn Wed, Oct 14, 2009 7:46:53am |
One thing Beck says which I do believe is true, most Americans are fed up with both parties. Although I may not agree with everything that is said on FOX, particularly the opinion shows, I really do think it isn't a good idea for the US administration to attack FOX. It makes them look petty and whiny. It also can conceivably be seen as a direct attack on Freedom of Speech and the Press by the White House. That is also a reality to consider. Adding fuel to the fire is just proving FOX position.
| 358 |
Pepper Fox Wed, Oct 14, 2009 8:01:09am |
He is going back to his days as a shockjock, plus he got away with the racism thing and still has a job, so I guess he figures if he can get away with that he's just gonna keep pushing it. Probably turn out to be an epic troll or something.
| 359 |
tungsten Wed, Oct 14, 2009 8:13:56am |
Jon Steward from the Daily Show on Fox's coverage of various grassroots protests...
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Wozza Matter? Wed, Oct 14, 2009 8:14:13am |
re: #345 The Sanity Inspector
that being the genius of the plan - if i do say so myself - how difficult would it be to convince them that an interlet lore known only to Geeks is an actual piece of pending legislation... and then convince them that it is located right next to said Deathbooks and Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate in the *real* Library of Congress... ;-)
if it pushes them off the deep end far enough to want to get rid of the FCC so shows like the Wire could get onto network teevee... who loses?
| 362 |
philosophus invidius Wed, Oct 14, 2009 8:27:15am |
re: #357 elclynn
If sane people are fed up with the GOP is it because of Beck and his ilk and the fact that the GOP leadership seems to pander to their sentiments. He is fed up with the GOP because he is nuts.
Also, maybe this is the first time Beck actually used the word "Jews" to describe his personal (and imaginary) persecution, but he has made the analogy all-but-explicit before.
| 363 |
celticdragon Wed, Oct 14, 2009 8:42:48am |
re: #137 Walter L. Newton
OT - Holy shit... someone mentioned "Cthulhu" above and I had no idea who or what the "f" that was... so, I go to Wiki and look this up.
Ok, now, how the hell am I going to get any sleep tonight?
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
That was a mistake. The old ones know you are aware of them now...and that knowledge always has a price.
Soon, you will reading the Necronomican and learning the forbidden chants, summoning shoggoths and turning your neighbors into unspeakable fish things as you slowly go insane!
Thuma sam rakh! Jubtal dumh snajk als Cthulhu!
Or something like that... ;)
| 364 |
ChaimYermiyahu Wed, Oct 14, 2009 8:48:41am |
Glenn Beck is an entertainer first, commentator second, spokesman for anything not on a liberal agenda third, and lucid thinker fourth.
If you don't like Glenn Beck simply click to a different channel - better yet, do not watch these YouTube briefs. Giving this much attention to a man most posters want to shoot begs the question -
"What do you fear in Glenn Beck?".
| 366 |
Pawn of the Oppressor Wed, Oct 14, 2009 8:58:06am |
re: #364 ChaimYermiyahu
If you don't like Glenn Beck simply click to a different channel - better yet, do not watch these YouTube briefs. Giving this much attention to a man most posters want to shoot begs the question -
"What do you fear in Glenn Beck?".
I fear that he's giving motivation and a sense of legitimacy to people who are otherwise rightly considered to be out of their damned minds.
| 367 |
brandon13 Wed, Oct 14, 2009 9:10:00am |
re: #364 ChaimYermiyahu
Glenn Beck is an entertainer first, commentator second, spokesman for anything not on a liberal agenda third, and lucid thinker fourth.
If you don't like Glenn Beck simply click to a different channel - better yet, do not watch these YouTube briefs. Giving this much attention to a man most posters want to shoot begs the question -
"What do you fear in Glenn Beck?".
On his own? Nothing.
But their are millions of idiots out there who hang on his every deranged word.
I fear what they may do as they see the country go in a direction they hate.
| 368 |
elclynn Wed, Oct 14, 2009 9:11:22am |
re: #362 philosophus invidius
And? My point is why all the hooplah? It just gives Beck more notoriety. When one notices all the loons who compare themselves to Jews or the Holocaust, Palestinians included, why would anyone support their statements by giving them even more "air time" then they already get. It just becomes more fuel for the fire.
| 369 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Oct 14, 2009 9:14:06am |
I see the Glenn Beck apologists have shown up now.
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brandon13 Wed, Oct 14, 2009 9:18:19am |
re: #368 elclynn
And? My point is why all the hooplah? It just gives Beck more notoriety. When one notices all the loons who compare themselves to Jews or the Holocaust, Palestinians included, why would anyone support their statements by giving them even more "air time" then they already get. It just becomes more fuel for the fire.
Basically let Beck do whatever he wants without any sort of criticism.
OK.
| 371 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Oct 14, 2009 9:21:20am |
re: #370 brandon13
Basically let Beck do whatever he wants without any sort of criticism.
OK.
Right, that's what they want.
Not gonna happen.
| 372 |
Wozza Matter? Wed, Oct 14, 2009 9:23:56am |
re: #370 brandon13
Totally agree with your summation.
Beck shouts "Fire" in a crowded Theatre during a performance he hates... the crowd then proceedes to stampede the fairminded critics... all the while the critics get shut up and Beck claims Freedom Of Speech.
He does seem to get it both ways.
| 373 |
elclynn Wed, Oct 14, 2009 10:25:49am |
re: #370 brandon13
I didn't say that at all. I also didn't say criticism of Beck is unfair. But, yes, Freedom of Speech is applicable to all. Even people we don't like. Anyone, even Charles, who makes the assumption I am a fan of Beck is also yelling fire in a crowded theatre. It is an assumption aimed at my character and presumes to know whom I approve of and admire. I find Chris Matthews equally repugnant. His statement about Rush Limbaugh and someone killing him was just as ugly. I don't watch his idiocy either. And, I don't flounce.
| 374 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Oct 14, 2009 11:06:03am |
re: #373 elclynn
I didn't say that at all. I also didn't say criticism of Beck is unfair. But, yes, Freedom of Speech is applicable to all. Even people we don't like.
And criticism has absolutely nothing to do with anyone's "freedom of speech." Beck is free to say anything he wants, and I am free to criticize it any way I want to.
Anyone, even Charles, who makes the assumption I am a fan of Beck is also yelling fire in a crowded theatre.
It's just my impression, based on the fact that you always turn up in threads about Glenn Beck and defend him.
| 375 |
elclynn Wed, Oct 14, 2009 11:25:45am |
re: #374 Charles
No, I actually have "turned up" in a number of threads. This one just happened to be on top. Since there are so many other issues of real importance, I just don't understand why you would give him the time of day. I've read this blog for a number of years and admired the quality of writing in the issues you have confronted. This one doesn't seem to be worthy of your style of journalism. I think your confrontation of racism, "Rathergate", and corruption in the media are important issues. This is one which I think is basically unimportant.
| 376 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Oct 14, 2009 11:26:17am |
re: #375 elclynn
Somehow, I'll try to carry on despite your disapproval.
| 377 |
elclynn Wed, Oct 14, 2009 11:29:06am |
re: #376 Charles
Not disapproval, just being honest with you.
| 378 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Oct 14, 2009 11:30:07am |
re: #377 elclynn
Not disapproval, just being honest with you.
Well, let me be honest with you too -- you don't get to decide what I cover or don't cover at LGF, and I disagree with your attempt to shut down criticism of Glenn Beck. It's not going to happen.
| 380 |
Charles Johnson Wed, Oct 14, 2009 11:37:58am |
re: #379 elclynn
And with that, you are cordially invited to piss off.
| 381 |
kutabeach Wed, Oct 14, 2009 12:28:41pm |
So I guess, unless there is a tragedy on the scope of the holocaust, no one will ever be able to use the famous poem as an analogy.
Got it.
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Hening Wed, Oct 14, 2009 1:18:40pm |
I don't agree that Beck is comparing Fox to the Jews during the Holocaust. This poem has been used by Gays, smokers, gun owners and anyone else trying to make the point that if you don't stand up for what you believe in now, you won't have a chance later.
| 383 |
Alan K. Henderson Wed, Oct 14, 2009 1:40:49pm |
re: #343 funky chicken
OJ murdered 2 people. You're going to cry that he was persecuted by that civil trial?
I am defending due process, and the Constitution that says you can't be tried twice for the same crime. Due process isn't perfect; sometimes the guilty use the system to get off scot free. But in the long run, "let's try them again if it doesn't work the first time" endangers the innocent more than the guilty.
And give me a call when "they" load Glenn Beck on a railroad car that's destined for a concentration camp. Up until then, "they" haven't come for anybody.
Didn't you actually read my comment before you excerpted it?? I I specifically stated the "coming for the ___" can be done in murderous and non-murderous ways, and that the US tax code and Beck's worries fall under the latter.
Everybody has something in common with the Nazis, but few have a lot in common. When Beck says O has a lot in common with the Nazis, call me.
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Yashmak Wed, Oct 14, 2009 3:57:24pm |
re: #382 Hening
I don't agree that Beck is comparing Fox to the Jews during the Holocaust. This poem has been used by Gays, smokers, gun owners and anyone else trying to make the point that if you don't stand up for what you believe in now, you won't have a chance later.
If you stand up with loons, don't be surprised if you're taken for a loon yourself. It's sheer comedy attaching to Beck a "stand up for what you believe in" meme. This is the same Beck who bashed our current health care system, claiming that what we needed was more government regulation (based on his own hospital experiences), and then just months later when Obama presented a government health plan, bashed it saying that the last thing we need is more government regulation/involvement in health care.
Anyone who takes anything about "standing up for what you believe in" seriously from this guy is being played for a fool.
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