Get ready for the complaints of persecution in "Obama's America"

Well, prepare to recalibrate the seethe-o-meters.

This ought to stoke his rhetoric!!!

Not surprising. Sometimes, being a first-class jerk has it's downside.

I suppose he'll start spewing lawsuits at his former partners now.

Limbaugh: good riddance - CBSSports.com

This is a great day for those of us who see sports as a unifying not dividing medium.

Oh, go ahead, Limbaugh lickers, post your comments about how people have made up quotes or taken them out of context or call everyone a racist. Fire away, you brave anonymous message board flamers. That's what you do.

(This is said without malice and is my opinion: I believe almost any quote attributed to Limbaugh when it comes to race because he's said any number of ugly and hateful things. Just my opinion and belief.)

Limbaugh represents everything that's wrong with how people relate to one another today.

re: #2 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Well, prepare to recalibrate the seethe-o-meters.

They'll be spiking, that's for sure.

Right to refuse service.

The outrage machine may blow a gasket before the end of the week!

Cavers!

re: #5 Charles

Limbaugh represents everything that's wrong with how people relate to one another today.

Bravo!

"Limbaugh gets the axe"

I guess this means that Charles is calling for the decapitation of Rush Limbaugh?!?

/snark

To Rush,

OT, but I suspect I'm not the only one that reads Larry Niven herein. From NewScientist:

Magnetricity - magnetic monopoles that can move independently - observed for first time. [Link: bit.ly...]

Oh, damn, his life is over...
Now he can get back to his programming empire, which has just received a free publicity shot in the arm like no other.
See Potato Chip, Soggy, Theory Of.

Sometimes in America and in Sports..We get things right...
There is no room in Sports for Rush and his money... Stick with politics Rush..
Sports is Color blind since Jackie Robinson...May the best Man or Woman win.
My heart is bursting with pride and gratefulness today...

re: #13 bofhell

OT, but I suspect I'm not the only one that reads Larry Niven herein. From NewScientist:

Magnetricity - magnetic monopoles that can move independently - observed for first time. [Link: bit.ly...]

No we are going to hear the seething and raging from the right wing Monophobes.

Karma's a bitch.

re: #11 Ray in TX

Not Charles style in my experience!
Guillotine? Maybe!Has more class!
//

re: #16 Walter L. Newton

No we are going to hear the seething and raging from the right wing Monophobes.

If they have an issue with gay marriage, I can only imagine their outrage at magnetic divorce...

Now I am gloating.

Good riddance to the POS. Let it be a lesson to the rest of the far right, America as a whole does not dig on racist hate mongers.

I am actually quite proud that America has come far enough where this will not stand.

I look forward to Rush's angry butthurt recriminations, that will only make him look worse.

I will make no bones about it. I hate his sneering face and all the rest of him too.

re: #16 Walter L. Newton

No we are going to hear the seething and raging from the right wing Monophobes.

Indeed. Let them shriek, we are right and we know it. I'll be back in about an hour, got to go to the bank.

This is also another huge embarrassment for conservatives and Republicans. Rush does say these thing and his audience doesn't object.

I think we know what the next outbreak of outrage will concern.

re: #1 philosophus invidius

re: #2 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

re: #4 SixDegrees

All of you are dead on.

One single quote wrongly attributed to Mr. Limbaugh did not do him in with the NFL owners.

His supporters need not pretend otherwise.

(This is said without malice and is my opinion: I believe almost any quote attributed to Limbaugh when it comes to race because he's said any number of ugly and hateful things. Just my opinion and belief.)

Doesn't Colbert call that "truthiness"?

re: #15 HoosierHoops

Meanwhile, back at the Eagles' training camp, the scandal that dogged Michael Vick fades into the sunset.

re: #23 Sharmuta

I think we know what the next outbreak of outrage will concern.

I predicted it above... magnetic monopoles. Far Right Monophobia.

No
Frickin'
Limbaugh

re: #28 Walter L. Newton

I predicted it above... magnetic monopoles. Far Right Monophobia.

That's actually pretty clever. updinged.

re: #27 tradewind

No pun intended, right? Vick is a POS. So is Rush, but for different reasons.

re: #25 Linden Arden

One single quote wrongly attributed to Mr. Limbaugh did not do him in with the NFL owners.

His supporters need not pretend otherwise.

Which single quote was wrongly attributed to him?

re: #31 Slumbering Behemoth

Then why is he allowed to sully the pristeen roster of the NFL?
It just seems somewhat lopsided.

And since we're on football;

The Dirtiest trick Play in Football History

Baseball is better anyway.

/quick exit

re: #31 Slumbering Behemoth

No pun intended, right? Vick is a POS. So is Rush, but for different reasons.

Vick is worse. He is a sociopath.
That's worse than an ass.

PIMF/ pristine

re: #25 Linden Arden

One single quote wrongly attributed to Mr. Limbaugh did not do him in with the NFL owners.

His supporters need not pretend otherwise.

I think it was his recent comments about bus segregation that offended a lot of people. Especially considering he was looking to buy the team in the area where that bus attack happened. You can't race bait like that, and a few months later think it's not going to hurt your chances of being a high profile sports owner.

To be honest, I'm a bit surprised that Limbaugh was dropped. Usually in the NFL, money seems to speak the loudest. Kudos to whomever had the gumption to tell Limbaugh to stick it.

re: #14 tradewind

Oh, damn, his life is over...
Now he can get back to his programming empire, which has just received a free publicity shot in the arm like no other.
See Potato Chip, Soggy, Theory Of.

I Googled Theory of Soggy Potato Chip but all I got were recipes for making potato chips.

re: #35 Ojoe

Baseball is better anyway.

/quick exit

Longer naps anyway.

re: #33 tradewind

Maybe. I would not have hired him, but he has "paid his debt to society", served his time.

re: #27 tradewind

Meanwhile, back at the Eagles' training camp, the scandal that dogged Michael Vick fades into the sunset.

Did he not spend 2 years in Prison? Did he not pay his price to society? I don't like Vick.. But not because of his Color but by his actions..
isn't that the way all mankind should be Judged?
Don't go there.. I'm ready my friend...

Happens every time -- now that there's a new post up, the bashers and whiners start posting in the previous thread.

re: #43 HoosierHoops

Did he not spend 2 years in Prison? Did he not pay his price to society? I don't like Vick.. But not because of his Color but by his actions..
isn't that the way all mankind should be Judged?
Don't go there.. I'm ready my friend...

Go where?

re: #44 Charles

Guess they think you wont be looking.

Several quotes attributed to him are false. The James Earl Ray quote. The Slavery was what built the south quote. McCarthyism has come to the NFL. What happens the next time an outspoken lib wants to own part of a team? Will they be "vetted" the same way?

re: #33 tradewind

Then why is he allowed to sully the pristeen roster of the NFL?
It just seems somewhat lopsided.

Because it is a BUSINESS and people don't care. The NFL knows that Vick is good for business, ergo, Vick is in. The NFL thinks that Rush will be bad for business, so Rush goes.

You can bet you bottom dollar that the group is dropping Rush because it's looking bad for business, nothing else.

It doesn't have anything to do with morals or goodness or light, it has to do with money.

re: #36 redshirt

The righteous indignation seems somewhat misplaced. If they don't want him in their ownership group, that is their right, of course. It's not as if he's going anywhere. What's the ' goodbye' thing about? He was never there.
But you'd think that the NFL owners might want to purge the ranks of the felons that collect the big bucks every Sunday while they're shunning the sinners.
It's great to see that the NFL wants only the pure of heart and mouth roaming their hallowed halls.
///

Responding to the news about Limbaugh being dropped from the team, Greater Wingnuttia has just issued an Orange Alert :

re: #40 MandyManners

It's well known that all children love potato chips.
They prefer crisp chips. But when offered a choice between crisp chips, soggy chips, and no chips, they always opt for the soggy chips.

Same thing applies to publicity.

re: #49 tradewind

The righteous indignation seems somewhat misplaced. If they don't want him in their ownership group, that is their right, of course. It's not as if he's going anywhere. What's the ' goodbye' thing about? He was never there.
But you'd think that the NFL owners might want to purge the ranks of the felons that collect the big bucks every Sunday while they're shunning the sinners.
It's great to see that the NFL wants only the pure of heart and mouth roaming their hallowed halls.
///

That's not it, it's the money... gee.

Hazel nuts are in season here...
Hazelnut Pesto with Wide Spelt Noodles

re: #46 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I'm guessing he has at least 4 giant monitors with lgf open at all times at the control station. I know I would.

re: #51 tradewind

Sorry... I meant when offered a choice between No chips and soggy ones, they always pick soggy.
The chips are a metaphor for attention. It's an early childhood thing.

re: #48 Walter L. Newton

Because it is a BUSINESS and people don't care. The NFL knows that Vick is good for business, ergo, Vick is in. The NFL thinks that Rush will be bad for business, so Rush goes.

You can bet you bottom dollar that the group is dropping Rush because it's looking bad for business, nothing else.

It doesn't have anything to do with morals or goodness or light, it has to do with money.

Bingo! Why do some underestimate the power of the almighty dollar?

re: #42 Slumbering Behemoth

Give Vick a break. I think Terrelle Pryor said it best: Nobody's perfect. everyone murders people, kills people.

re: #47 meatsss

Several quotes attributed to him are false. The James Earl Ray quote. The Slavery was what built the south quote. McCarthyism has come to the NFL. What happens the next time an outspoken lib wants to own part of a team? Will they be "vetted" the same way?

The NFL is a business. They get to decide.

re: #52 Walter L. Newton

Well, it's reassuring to see they don't want any dirty money.
:)
I'd like to see a bio of the NFL owner groups. Bet there are some interesting characters among them.

re: #51 tradewind

It's well known that all children love potato chips.
They prefer crisp chips. But when offered a choice between crisp chips, soggy chips, and no chips, they always opt for the soggy chips.

Same thing applies to publicity.

Ah. Publicity is publicity as long as they spell your name right.

re: #58 jaunte

You don't really think the NFL gave a crap, do you? They didn't decide... they were strong-armed. Once Jackson and Sharpton get a whiff of a microphone and detect camera lighting, it's over.

Checketts now realizes that if he is to be successful he has to drop Limbaugh.

I wish the GOP was as smart as Checketts.

The NFL hasn't decided anything. Slanders and libels were made. If he is dropped, then he has cause to pursue those who issued those slanders and libels for lost investment.

re: #56 Varek Raith

Bingo! Why do some underestimate the power of the almighty dollar?

I don't know. All the pontificating about Rush and his racist remarks and what ever... REALLY has nothing to do with it. Maybe it makes us feel good if we take a stand on this, poo-poo Rush, let everyone know that we don't cater to this sort of racism and we are happy to see him get pushed out of his bid in becoming part owner of a team.

But that is no where near the real issue, or no where near any issue that anyone who matter cares about.

It's the money, these folks only care about the money and the bottom line. A lot of them would even laugh at all the other stuff.

re: #47 meatsss

There's nothing false about this nasty little bit of race-baiting, still fresh off the radio:

Obama's America: white kids getting beat up on school buses. You put your kids on a school bus, you expect safety, but in Obama's America, white kids now get beat up, with the black kids cheering, "Yeah! Right on! Right on!"

re: #60 MandyManners

Bingo. Bad is better than none at all.
I've never quite figured that out. I wouldn't eat a soggy chip.

re: #59 tradewind

Well, it's reassuring to see they don't want any dirty money.
:)
I'd like to see a bio of the NFL owner groups. Bet there are some interesting characters among them.

Tradewind, don't you see it doesn't matter? It not reassuring, it's not assuring, dirty money, it's not even the issue... money is the issue, dirty, clean, from on shore, from off shore, that the matter.

re: #61 tradewind

The NFL doesn't really need the hassle that comes with his money. He has said what he has said, it's no one's fault but his own.

re: #65 Charles

That's the most idiotic non-comparison I've seen in a while. As if there's a correlation between Obama as president and teenage delinquents on a bus?
Definitely goes in the pile for low-IQ post of the day.

[Link: www.spittoon.org...]

Imam Ahmad Reza Khan (1856-1921): A Great Scholar of the 20th Century

Today his followers are known as the ‘Ahle Sunnah wal Jammah’ and make up over 50% of the total Muslim population in the Indian subcontinent. They also make up the majority of Muslims in the UK. The fact that the overwhelming body of British Muslims are Barelwis proves how wrong the government has been to flirt with Islamist outfits like the Muslim Council of Britain, MINAB and East London Mosque.

Ummm... Where are the actual, you know, documented cases of Limbaugh engaging in race baiting?

See also Andy McCarthy.

Can't see how he had any other option really.

re: #67 Walter L. Newton

The thing is, what a tempest in a teapot. Rush will move on with his megashow, and the NFL will continue to hire criminals who can throw a pass. It's only a huge story because of who landed in the center of the bullseye.
You would think from the end-zone celebrating, that he's being taken off the air, or sent to prison.

And there is nothing true about a journalism professor making up the James Earl Ray quote out of whole cloth. You can call what he says about the attacks on that school bus race baiting, but the videos of those cheering the beating of a student can't be overcome by crying racist. Are African Americans immune from the charge of racist actions? What do you call what happened on that bus?

re: #32 Walter L. Newton

Which single quote was wrongly attributed to him?

I asked this above, I ask again, I didn't hear about this. Anyone have the answer?

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

I don't know exactly, here is the list from Snopes.

re: #71 clgood

Ummm... Where are the actual, you know, documented cases of Limbaugh engaging in race baiting?

See also Andy McCarthy.

You mean these documented examples?

Rush Limbaugh - Wikiquote

Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.

Response to a black caller he was having a hard time understanding in the 1970s when he worked under the name "Jeff Christie" on a top-40 music program in Pittsburgh, as quoted in Newsday (8 October 1990) where he expresses some remorse at having said it; also in The Way Things Aren't : Rush Limbaugh's Reign of Error (1995) by Steve Rendall, Jim Naureckas, and Jeff Cohen [ISBN 156584260X] , "Limbaugh : A Color Man Who Has A Problem With Color?" by Jeff Cohen and Steve Rendall in FAIR and The Los Angeles Times (6 July 2000), and "Bone Voyage" at Snopes.com (4 September 2007)

The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.

As quoted in Flush Rush Quarterly (January 1993) and in "Limbaugh : A Color Man Who Has A Problem With Color?" by Jeff Cohen and Steve Rendall in FAIR and The Los Angeles Times (6 July 2000), and in "Off Sides" by Michael Tomasky in The American Prospect (16 July 2003)

They're 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?

Of African-Americans, as quoted in "Limbaugh Brings Baggage with his ESPN Blabber" by Derrick Z. Jackson inThe Boston Globe (16 July 2003), and "Colorblind football fans know Rush is wrong" by Richard Roeper in Chicago Sun-Times (1 October 2003)

Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?

As quoted in "Limbaugh : A Color Man Who Has A Problem With Color?" by Jeff Cohen and Steve Rendall in FAIR and The Los Angeles Times (6 July 2000), and at "Bone Voyage" at Snopes.com (4 September 2007)

The media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well.

As quoted in "Dittohead Blues" in the LA Weekly (9 October 2003)

Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.

As quoted in "Hey Rush, when it comes to sports ... shhh!" by Mike Freeman at CBS SportsLine (27 January 2007)

Partial repost:

What entertains me is seeing Rush's defenders wondering how it is that both the racist rednecks and Black people both clearly understood Rush and did not think it was any form of satire or any other spin doctoring. What entertains me more is the inability to see cause and effect when there are so very few minority Republicans.

The theme of inability to see cause and effect is something much on my mind of late.

The GOP really needs to ask itself why it is seen as the party of angry white men over 35. That is not to say there are no young republicans. That is not to say there aren't even token smatterings of minority and even gay republlicans.

It is to say though that by and large, people are not blind to what is going on.

re: #76 ptpine

I listen to Rush often and he is definitely not a racist. When he is making "racist" type comments it is with tongue firmly in cheek mocking those on the Left and multi-culturalism. To listen to out of context soundbites and use that to hammer Limbaugh shows ignorance. I would find it hard to believe that someone who frequently listens to his show (Liberal or Conservative) would think that he's a racist.

Oh, goody! The 'it's satire' and 'it's outta context' defense!
/Sigh.

re: #71 clgood

Ummm... Where are the actual, you know, documented cases of Limbaugh engaging in race baiting?

See also Andy McCarthy.

I dunno.. ask ESPN.. They fired his bigoted ass after a couple of weeks...
I watched and heard what he said that morning...And it disgusted me...
Now people parse his words and say ' aw heck he didn't mean it that way'
yea right...

re: #76 ptpine

what a convenient all-purpose alibi that applies to any occasion.

re: #76 ptpine

The "it's was just sarcasm" excuse. Lame.

re: #75 Walter L. Newton

I asked this above, I ask again, I didn't hear about this. Anyone have the answer?

He now claims he never made the James Earl Ray comment.

That is like Barry Bonds saying he only hit one home run on the juice.

re: #76 ptpine

Wow, first comment.

I predict a Rush flounce. If not this poster, some other long-lurker.

I will loose no sleep over Rush not getting a new toy. The NFL is a club that chooses it's own members. I cannot condone however, the knowing repetition of fallacious quotes, by the media and others, to buttress the case against Rush. A couple of those throwing stones, Mr's Jackson and Sharpton, have made a very nice living keeping the dying embers of racial discord burning. When it comes to race baiting, Mr Limbaugh still has a lot to learn from the real professionals.

re: #73 tradewind

The thing is, what a tempest in a teapot. Rush will move on with his megashow, and the NFL will continue to hire criminals who can throw a pass. It's only a huge story because of who landed in the center of the bullseye.
You would think from the end-zone celebrating, that he's being taken off the air, or sent to prison.

On the flip side, I'll agree with that. Rush will still be Rush, and the NFL will go on running their business, making money. And any satisfaction that anyone gets from Rush loosing this opportunity can only be a personal victory, because it will be lost on the supporters, lost on Rush and once again, make no difference to the bottom line, especially Rush's bottom line.

I'm glad that LGF has people who will stick to their moral centers and not falter, but in the big scheme of things, in the real world, this is a hollow victory, and the beat goes on.

re: #62 mich-again

Checketts now realizes that if he is to be successful he has to drop Limbaugh.

Wait... you mean he didn't drop him out of a deep sense of moral outrage? It was just bidness?

re: #85 wrenchwench

Wow, first comment.

I predict a Rush flounce. If not this poster, some other long-lurker.

Yep, registered almost a year ago and that's his first comment.

re: #84 Linden Arden

There is nothing that actually confirms he made that James Earl Ray comment. I don't like Rush, but I prefer to stick him with things that can be confirmed.

re: #78 Charles

Joe Scarborough devoted some time this morning on his show to those wiki quotes and why you can't trust them. Evidently he had personal experience.

Flounce #1!

re: #92 tradewind

Joe Scarborough devoted some time this morning on his show to those wiki quotes and why you can't trust them. Evidently he had personal experience.

They're all sourced.

re: #93 Charles

Flounce #1!

Any other ditto heads like to take a tumble off the stage?
/Come on, you now ya wanna!

re: #93 Charles

Flounce #1!

For the day? Or just the thread? I haven't looked at other threads but surely the RP and Cori threads were flounce-worthy.

re: #22 Killgore Trout

This is also another huge embarrassment for conservatives and Republicans. Rush does say these thing and his audience doesn't object applauds.

And there we go!

re: #86 Buster

You do realize that if Al Sharpen tried to buy an NFL team he wouldn't be approved either...Jesse Jackson? Please...
Not a snowballs chance in Hell...And you damn well know it...

re: #71 clgood

Ummm... Where are the actual, you know, documented cases of Limbaugh engaging in race baiting?

See also Andy McCarthy.

Here's McCarthy's last paragraph from your link:

There's only one way this nonsense ever goes away: When we say "enough!" and tell the race-baiters their time is up. It's too much of an industry, so it probably won't happen tomorrow. But the Sixties ideal is crashing and burning before our very eyes, and I think it'll take a lot of its warped obsessions down with it.

Completely contradicts the paragraphs preceding it. He can't even write a good defense of Rush, although he tried.

re: #49 tradewind

The righteous indignation seems somewhat misplaced. If they don't want him in their ownership group, that is their right, of course. It's not as if he's going anywhere. What's the ' goodbye' thing about? He was never there.
But you'd think that the NFL owners might want to purge the ranks of the felons that collect the big bucks every Sunday while they're shunning the sinners.
It's great to see that the NFL wants only the pure of heart and mouth roaming their hallowed halls.
///

Righteous indignation?
I said Vick was a sociopath, He served his time, but he is still a sociopath.
Don't know what you mean by the "goodbye thing".

re: #96 drogheda

For the day? Or just the thread? I haven't looked at other threads but surely the RP and Cori threads were flounce-worthy.

Oh, just for this thread. There have been numerous flounces and haters today. And six hate mails at last count.

re: #91 Slumbering Behemoth

There is nothing that actually confirms he made that James Earl Ray comment. I don't like Rush, but I prefer to stick him with things that can be confirmed.

I am NOT claiming that he did, in fact, make that comment. I don't know.

I am saying that it was his "body of work" that deprived him of a formal vote by the NFL owners.

re: #78 Charles

The bone quote looks bad, but that was a long time ago. The rest require a biased reading (if he really said them -- I would take anything Flush Rush says with a grain of salt. I wouldn't call them "documentation") to qualify as race baiting. The Crips and Bloods quip, for example, reads like a commentary on the NFL's well-known criminal problems. The Je$$e Jack$on remark is only race baiting if you also think that criticizing the Dear Leader in the White House is racism. C'mon -- Jack$on is just a buffoon whose face just happens to have that certain Post Office Wall look a lot of the time.

I'm not seeing a pattern here, and I think that a lot of people who don't listen to his show regularly just don't get the jokes.

NB: Rush isn't right all the time. I'm not a droid. But it's utterly shameful how members of the government like that fool in congress think they can go after individuals. It doesn't matter that Rush happens to be a high-profile individual. This is a dangerous precedent, and is the real story here. Not Rush's imagined race baiting.

re: #104 clgood

The bone quote looks bad, but that was a long time ago. The rest require a biased reading (if he really said them -- I would take anything Flush Rush says with a grain of salt. I wouldn't call them "documentation") to qualify as race baiting. The Crips and Bloods quip, for example, reads like a commentary on the NFL's well-known criminal problems. The Je$$e Jack$on remark is only race baiting if you also think that criticizing the Dear Leader in the White House is racism. C'mon -- Jack$on is just a buffoon whose face just happens to have that certain Post Office Wall look a lot of the time.

I'm not seeing a pattern here, and I think that a lot of people who don't listen to his show regularly just don't get the jokes.

NB: Rush isn't right all the time. I'm not a droid. But it's utterly shameful how members of the government like that fool in congress think they can go after individuals. It doesn't matter that Rush happens to be a high-profile individual. This is a dangerous precedent, and is the real story here. Not Rush's imagined race baiting.

There's nothing imaginary about the race-baiting in this comment, made just a couple of weeks ago:

Obama's America: white kids getting beat up on school buses. You put your kids on a school bus, you expect safety, but in Obama's America, white kids now get beat up, with the black kids cheering, "Yeah! Right on! Right on!"

But go ahead and keep making excuses.

Limbaugh a race baiter? How?

re: #71 clgood

The capacity for denial is so very very strong. It just gets to me sometimes.

I had written earlier today about a man who came in to see my brother, who is a cardiologist. The man was 50, 5'11" 285 lbs, smoked two packs a day for over thirty years and his diet was excessively fatty.

He just could not understand how he was having heart problems.

He thought he was "well just a little overweight."

He had heard of "plenty of healthy people who smoked more than him."

Now what I did not write is what a more senior doctor said to the man.

The more senior doctor came in and said to my brother.

"Do not bother prescribing a single thing to this man. It is not worth it. You are just flushing good medicine down the toilet."

The man protested.

The more senior doctor said to him:

"You live in a state of utter denial. Nothing we can do for you will matter until you open your eyes. You are fat. You are not a little chubby. You are fat. Your heart is overworked. It is also overworked because it has to pump harder to supply oxygen to all of your cells. There is no mystery to this, you have the lung capacity of a toddler after all of those years of smoking. You have done pretty much everything you could to weaken your heart."

And then My brother and the more senior doctor played good cop bad cop on him. It might just save his life.

re: #94 Charles

I know.. it's just that the sources are almost all newspaper reporters, and who sources/ fact-checks the source? I suppose if they have a tape recorder, no problem. Hearsay, sometimes a problem for the LA Times and Boston Globe.
There's no doubt that what Limbaugh has said in the past plays to the part of his audience that wants to go that way, so I guess it was inevitable.

re: #104 clgood

Are you quoting Rush with those Jesse Jackson comments you made in your post, or is that your own wording?

/bangs head against desk

re: #107 Alan K. Henderson

Limbaugh a race baiter? How?

You could try, you know, reading the thread. There are plenty of examples.

Charles. Did the black kids on the bus cheer as the white kid got beat up?

re: #104 clgood

No one thinks that criticizing the President is itself racist. But nice strawman.

re: #104 clgood

Willful ignorance is not a good trait.

re: #107 Alan K. Henderson

Incoming! My flounce sense is tingling.

Flounce #2!

re: #101 redshirt

Sorry, I didn't mean your righteous indignation, if that is how you read it... I was talking about the ' na na kiss him goodbye' etc etc tone in general.
Not a direct reply... I should have been more clear.

re: #114 philosophus invidius

Have you run that by Jimmy Carter?... because he'd probably disagree...
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re: #113 Meatsss

It was a black kid who came to the rescue of the white kid. And cheering? What does that prove if the kids made noise during a school fight? You'd think it's the first time in history there was cheering and jeering when a fight broke out.

re: #115 Varek Raith

I'm getting a strong reading on the Flounce-a-tron 6000 as well.

re: #67 Walter L. Newton

I disagree. The NFL is very concerned with its image. Granted, a good part of the reason is based on their desire to remain profitable in the long-term. But I don't think you can boil down every decision as being all about money.

Example, The NFL site will sell you your team's jersey personalized with your name, but don't try to buy one with an "inappropriate" name on it. The rules say this..

- Both adult and youth jerseys hold up to 10 characters
- Characters accepted: capital A-Z (name field only); 0-9 (number field only); spaces
- Language deemed inappropriate, derogatory, or profane will not be accepted

Seems to me if all they cared about was money they wouldn't turn your money down for that. And its not just f-bombs they won't allow. They are pretty particular. Try a few and see what passes the test.

re: #113 Meatsss

Boo, hiss.
No need for that.

re: #113 Meatsss

Charles. Did the black kids on the bus cheer as the white kid got beat up?

Did the white kids on the bus cheer as the white kid got beat up?

This "logic exercise" is fucking stupid. Kids fight, and Rush uses them to race-bait.

re: #104 clgood

Denial is not just a river in Africa!

Ummm... only someone who is a bitt racist themselves or completely and utterly tone deaf could imagine that is not racist!

Here is a ring on the clue phone: When black people from across the board find the remarks hateful, yet rednecks like them, it is likely very clearly racist.

There is an old Jewish saying: When one friend tells you that you are drunk, you may not be. When three friends tell you that you are drunk, and teh rabbi offers you a bed, you should probably listen.

I am curious, do you think SUVs do not harm the environment? Do you think smoking is ok for you?

re: #113 Meatsss

There were some white kids in the cheering section as well. There was more to that story than what that blowhard Rush Limbaugh told his dittohead listeners.

re: #119 Sharmuta

Then his description of the fight was accurrate. His poltical statement about Obama was opinion.

re: #118 tradewind

I won't defend Carter. But he didn't say that criticizing Obama is racist. He said that in fact much of the paranoid reaction to Obama is based on his race. And he is right, I think. Some people are just uncomfortable with a black man "over" them and they're scared.

re: #120 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I'm getting a strong reading on the Flounce-a-tron 6000 as well.

AH HA! So now we know where the magnetic monopoles are coming from!

re: #112 Sharmuta

You mean the as-documentable-as-Mary-Mapes-documents examples?

re: #126 Meatsss

Then his description of the fight was accurrate. His poltical statement about Obama was opinion.

So- the remaining white kids were cheering on the black kids too?

re: #124 LudwigVanQuixote

/Enough with the SUV bashing/

re: #126 Meatsss

Neutronium grade denseness, that is.
/way to miss the point.

I'd be a bit more impressed if the NFL closed their office on MLK day. Gave their employees a holiday to honor the slain civil rights hero.

re: #119 Sharmuta

It was a black kid who came to the rescue of the white kid. And cheering? What does that prove if the kids made noise during a school fight? You'd think it's the first time in history there was cheering and jeering when a fight broke out.

No, dear Sharmuta, this is the first time in history this has ever happened. Every single school kid has gotten along in perfect peace and harmony for centuries. The recent violence among children is an entirely new phenomenon, one never seen in human history, and all because this in now "Obama's America".
///

Reading Comprehension - Not a noteworthy skill amomgst Rushbots.

re: #126 Meatsss

I by "opinion" you mean ridiculous nonsense with no relation to the fact but which implies that Obama is a threat to white people.

Limbaugh can be thrown under the bus but I draw the line when you start calling Mark Stein a race baiter.

Rush Limbaugh on the radical Ayers/ACORN/Afro-centric militant conspiracy to promote hatred of America:

re: #133 Dave the...

I'd be a bit more impressed if the NFL closed their office on MLK day. Gave their employees a holiday to honor the slain civil rights hero.

Dave...What are you saying here? Do you realize that the NFL told the Cardinals they would never host a SuperBowl until AZ. Had a MLK day?
Careful

re: #130 Sharmuta

I didn't see any other white kids in the video. You want to post it, I'll admit my error. But when did political speech become a determinator of who can invest in a private business?
What other business investments will you deprive people of due to politcal speech?

Out of the woodwork again.

The bus incident had a lot of people upset. When you see a child of one color being beaten by several children of another color, to the cheers of others of that same color, it's plain wrong. It's wrong regardless of which order the colors come as victim and perpetrator. Violence against children is wrong.

I think that was what Rush was keying on, though I didn't listen to him (I don't listen to him, nor to any other talk-radio personality, I work for a living).

The group that wants to buy the Rams can include or exclude Rush as they wish; it's their business and not mine. Rush is an adult and he'll handle it as he wishes.

But as long as we allow people to scream "racist!!!" at the top of their lungs to gag those who are their political opponents, we're not going to get anywhere as a country. When Al Sharpton gets a free pass, given his checkered history with the truth, to label others and the MSM gobbles it up to further their own grudge match, then we have a serious problem.

Most sensible people understand that the screaming over "racist!!!" is nonsense. It's going to boomerang against those who scream loudest. I hope I'm around to see it.

re: #140 Meatsss

But when did political speech become a determinator of who can invest in a private business?

Are you joking, or have you never been in business?

re: #113 Meatsss

Charles. Did the black kids on the bus cheer as the white kid got beat up?

Actually, two black kids helped the white kid.

Further, Rush reported it as your little white kids are not safe anymore from black kids. That was the most pure an vile race baiting and fear mongering.

He said this was the result of Obama's America.

Are you deaf or just very, very stupid.

I hate racists. I hate apologists for racist and I really hate stupid apologists for racists. You are a repugnant fool.

The sleepers awake.

re: #136 philosophus invidius

Wrong. But thanks for trying to put words in my mouth.

re: #142 Steve White

nice try

Dave...What are you saying here? Do you realize that the NFL told the Cardinals they would never host a SuperBowl until AZ. Had a MLK day?
Careful

That's what I am talking about. Someone from Arizona called the NFL offices on a hunch...on MLK day. They were all working. When asked about it, the NFL replied that it is a busy time of year for them...Super Bowl and all.

re: #143 jaunte

Are you joking, or have you never been in business?

No kidding!

re: #105 Charles

But go ahead and keep making excuses.

Making excuses? No, I'm just trying to give an unbiased reading to the quotes. The one about the bus seems to be a commentary on Obama's racialism and its corrosive effect rather than evidence of Rush's putative racism.

Obviously that incident (I saw the video, and they were cheering) may not be ultimately The Messiah's fault. Rush's reasoning or linkage of evidence may be faulty. But where's the actual racism? I don't see it.

It's fashionable to hate Rush. I'm disappointed to see that trump cold evidence here. With all due respect, though, don't try to pin an apologist straw man on me. When Rush is wrong I call him on it.

If he were such a racist why would he even want an NFL team? And why would Bo Snerdley still be working for him?

re: #140 Meatsss

I didn't see any other white kids in the video. You want to post it, I'll admit my error. But when did political speech become a determinator of who can invest in a private business?
What other business investments will you deprive people of due to politcal speech?

The business people made their own decision. Neither you nor Sharmuta get a say. That's what "private" means.

re: #140 Meatsss

If I am selling something, I reserve the right to decide who I sell it to. No one is being deprived.

Flounce #3!

re: #145 Charles

The sleepers awake.

Cthulhu or the Kwistaz Haderach?

re: #150 clgood

Making excuses? No, I'm just trying to give an unbiased reading to the quotes. The one about the bus seems to be a commentary on Obama's racialism and its corrosive effect rather than evidence of Rush's putative racism.

Obviously that incident (I saw the video, and they were cheering) may not be ultimately The Messiah's fault. Rush's reasoning or linkage of evidence may be faulty. But where's the actual racism? I don't see it.

It's fashionable to hate Rush. I'm disappointed to see that trump cold evidence here. With all due respect, though, don't try to pin an apologist straw man on me. When Rush is wrong I call him on it.

If he were such a racist why would he even want an NFL team? And why would Bo Snerdley still be working for him?

MONEY!

I've listened to Limbaugh on and off for the last 13 years. I think he is one of the smartest pundits out there. Look at the fortune he's amassed, it's not because he's lucky. He knows what he's doing when he dances around racist remarks, he's appealing to the racists in his audience. Sorry, can't make any excuses for him, not the worst guy in the world but he is a typical racist.

re: #140 Meatsss

I didn't see any other white kids in the video. You want to post it, I'll admit my error. But when did political speech become a determinator of who can invest in a private business?
What other business investments will you deprive people of due to politcal speech?

My G-d, here we have a man who is openly creating racial tension and whipping up people into a lather intentionally on the basis of racism, and all you can talk about is depriving him of his right to business investments?

Out and out, this is why Republicans are seen as evil. Money always before ethics.

re: #140 Meatsss

I didn't see any other white kids in the video. You want to post it, I'll admit my error. But when did political speech become a determinator of who can invest in a private business?
What other business investments will you deprive people of due to politcal speech?

Sorry, but ROFLMAO

re: #150 clgood

Yeah, he has a black man working for him! That means he can't be a race-baiter!

Logic. It's not just for eggheads.

re: #140 Meatsss

But when did political speech become a determinator of who can invest in a private business?

The NFL can exclude anyone they want to exclude as a franchise owner. Rush is free to start his own League.

re: #151 wrenchwench

The business people made their own decision. Neither you nor Sharmuta get a say. That's what "private" means.

The only say I would have would be as a consumer. I can decide if I want to give my business to someone with unsavory political commentary or I can decide to take my business elsewhere.

I think what was going on is the group Rush was involved with realized he'd hurt business. They say image is everything, and they must not have liked the image Rush was bringing with him.

re: #157 RealismRox

ISorry, can't make any excuses for him, not the worst guy in the world but he is a typical racist.

Upding for an honest dittohead!

re: #161 mich-again

And why would I want to do business with a jerk who is hated by 70% of my clientele? Does that make my a censor?

re: #143 jaunte

I own a business. I sell to whomever has the cash. I'm color blind and politically neutral when it comes to my business and treat each customer the same. Your statement fails to respond to my question. An employee of a corporation fails in his fiduciary duty by denying investment by another individual due to his or her political beliefs. As a shareholder, I would be very upset if that occurred.

re: #152 Slumbering Behemoth
In many cases, not so much.
Depends on what you are offering for sale, and how.
Try to refuse to sell to people in many cases, and you'll be in violation of the law.

Aw geez. It's like a thunder storm of stupid just rolled in here. I do not envy your job Charles, but I certainly grateful you do it.

re: #165 Meatsss

Some investments are not worth the interest payments.

re: #150 clgood

From your second link, your own words:

What made Rush entertaining to me was that his world view coincided with mine in so many areas. No entertainer has formulated my views.

So, what is your world view when it comes to race? You criticized Rush for his creationist beliefs.

re: #140 Meatsss

I didn't see any other white kids in the video. You want to post it, I'll admit my error. But when did political speech become a determinator of who can invest in a private business?
What other business investments will you deprive people of due to politcal speech?

Wow. Deaf and blind. It's a wonder you can cope at all..

As for politics and business: I've thrown white supremacists out of the print shop I used to manage after returning their money and refusing to hand over the job a clerk had taken and run. Had they dealt with me, I simply would have refused to accept the job in the first place. Businesses aren't the government; they're free to fraternize with whomever they want, as long as they abide by the law, and at the partnership level there's nothing preventing anyone from telling Rush to take his racist bilge and shove up his ass on his own time.

Maybe Rush can see if the ACLU will file a sit on his behalf.

By the way: swallowing what Rush puts out on this matter, as you're doing, is not what anyone would call unbiased or prudent. Try doing your own research; there's this thing called Google, and it's real easy to work if you're even slightly motivated.

re: #13 bofhell

OT, but I suspect I'm not the only one that reads Larry Niven herein.

I really enjoy his short stories that involve Gil Hamilton of A.R.M. and the "organ-leggers" black market for transplantable spare human parts. As much as I would enjoy seeing his stuff on the big screen, I hate to think how it could be butchered by Hollywood. The studios, if not necessarily the writing and directing talent, seem to think sci-fi just means 'car chases and explosions, except in space'.

I'd be interested to see what Alfonso Cuaron could do with it, though. He did an exceptional job with "Children of Men".

re: #140 Meatsss

And one other thing troll boy... When you do go back to the deuce, don't whine about how you were sent there because you were "ohhh so reasonable."

You were sent there because you are a tone deaf, stupid and ignorant, apologist for racists.

re: #99 HoosierHoops

Like I said, the NFL is a club that chooses it's own members. You are probably right about Sharpton's and Jackson's chances at ownership. My point was that I don't condone lying to buttress an argument, Charles listed several actual statements by Limbaugh that are true and verified, there is no need to make up even more.

re: #163 bratwurst

Well, I wouldn't consider myself a dittohead at this point. Reformed dittohead maybe.

re: #167 Slumbering Behemoth

Aw geez. It's like a thunder storm of stupid just rolled in here. I do not envy your job Charles, but I certainly grateful you do it.

This always happens whenever you post anything even mildly critical of St. Limbaugh.

re: #140 Meatsss

I didn't see any other white kids in the video. You want to post it, I'll admit my error. But when did political speech become a determinator of who can invest in a private business?
What other business investments will you deprive people of due to politcal speech?

Yeah, it sucks that Rush Limbaugh isn't able to play in the reindeer games,
but it is surprising to me anyone would have an issue with a business making a business decision.

No one is restricting his speech. But it is my right not to support him.
It is the football players right to announce their displeasure with Limbaugh owning a team.
It is the NFL's right to question if Rush Limbaugh is the best person to represent a team.
It is Rush Limbaugh's business partner's right to ask him to back away from the deal.
and ... it is Rush Limbaugh's right to step away from the deal quietly or with as much noise as he can make.

re: #140 Meatsss
re: #142 Steve White
re: #150 clgood

It's official. We now have three blackholes.

re: #165 Meatsss

An employee of a corporation fails in his fiduciary duty by denying investment by another individual due to his or her political beliefs.

This is a too-narrow reading of fiduciary duty. Risk must also be considered.

re: #165 Meatsss

I own a business. I sell to whomever has the cash. I'm color blind and politically neutral when it comes to my business and treat each customer the same. Your statement fails to respond to my question. An employee of a corporation fails in his fiduciary duty by denying investment by another individual due to his or her political beliefs. As a shareholder, I would be very upset if that occurred.

Who said that's what they based their decision on?

re: #161 mich-again

I would love for him to try and get a UFL Franchise.

I have a variation of the following conversation at least once a week with members of my, er, congregation.

Dittohead: Rush Limbaugh says

MinisterO: [Interrupting] I don't care what Rush Limbaugh says.

Dittohead: I like Rush Limbaugh. He makes good points. I don't agree with everything he says.

MinisterO: What exactly don't you agree with?

Dittohead: [Silence]

MinisterO: You like him because he hates the same people you do, right?

Dittohead: I don't hate black people.

re: #165 Meatsss

I own a business. I sell to whomever has the cash. I'm color blind and politically neutral when it comes to my business and treat each customer the same. Your statement fails to respond to my question. An employee of a corporation fails in his fiduciary duty by denying investment by another individual due to his or her political beliefs. As a shareholder, I would be very upset if that occurred.

Hopefully you're not in the business of manufacturing and/or selling military munitions.

re: #165 Meatsss

I own a business. I sell to whomever has the cash. I'm color blind and politically neutral when it comes to my business and treat each customer the same. Your statement fails to respond to my question. An employee of a corporation fails in his fiduciary duty by denying investment by another individual due to his or her political beliefs. As a shareholder, I would be very upset if that occurred.

And the NFL is a privately run entertainment industry.

Just like Mel Gibson got the stick for his vileness, Rush is getting it now. Any shareholder would be appalled at having to overcome the fact that Rush was an owner.

Now how about you answer my question?

How can you be so very very blind to the insults and vileness that Rush has spewed, and how can you possibly think that money for him is more important?

re: #150 clgood

If he were such a racist why would he even want an NFL team?

A chance to say he owns 30 black men?

re: #161 mich-again

The NFL didn't exclude him, did they? A bunch of lefty jerks put out false quotes and many (including here) blindly followed and repeated them.
That's slander and libel. He has cause for legal action if he is dropped by the Cricketts group. He may not win, but he can give some so called journalists headaches for not vetting their stories.

re: #165 Meatsss

I own a business. I sell to whomever has the cash. I'm color blind and politically neutral when it comes to my business and treat each customer the same. Your statement fails to respond to my question. An employee of a corporation fails in his fiduciary duty by denying investment by another individual due to his or her political beliefs. As a shareholder, I would be very upset if that occurred.

Making racist statements like Rush has done is politics?

re: #173 Buster

Like I said, the NFL is a club that chooses it's own members. You are probably right about Sharpton's and Jackson's chances at ownership. My point was that I don't condone lying to buttress an argument, Charles listed several actual statements by Limbaugh that are true and verified, there is no need to make up even more.

Sounds reasonable to me.. I'll admit I've never heard the Rush radio show in my life...I only know what he said on ESPN...
Damn I love sports threads!

re: #177 Varek Raith

It's official. We now have three blackholes.

Is the wingularity nigh?

I do know that one item popularly mis-cited as race-baiting is the "Barack the Magic Negro." That was a piece of double satire, directed at David Ehrenstein's column that cast white support for the Obama candidacy as something influenced by white guilt, and at the murmurs from certain corners that questioned Obama's racial authenticity.

Then there's the Donovan McNabb comment. I heard those comments. Limbaugh said that the media rooted for McNabb because they want to see him succeed in a position (quarterback) where, historically, blacks have been scarce. (Not anything really wrong with that, unless it cuts into objectivity about the bucking-history guy or gal in question.) His characterization of the media was vindicated when two black coaches faced each other in a Super Bowl.

And now the wingnut dingers are showing up.

re: #185 Meatsss

The NFL didn't exclude him, did they? A bunch of lefty jerks put out false quotes and many (including here) blindly followed and repeated them.
That's slander and libel. He has cause for legal action if he is dropped by the Cricketts group. He may not win, but he can give some so called journalists headaches for not vetting their stories.

Oh, bullshit. People can pick and choose who they wish to be associated with, and you're dreaming if you think he has any grounds for "legal action."

Pathetic.

re: #3 reloadingisnotahobby

This ought to stoke his rhetoric!!!

It already did. He must have gotten advance word, because he was spluttering on about Donovan McNabb and Al Sharpton and whoever on his show today.

re: #170 SixDegrees

One degree short of six, a customer isn't an investor.

re: #177 Varek Raith

We now have three blackholes.

Or some kind/

re: #7 Slumbering Behemoth

Right to refuse service.

Money can't buy love.

re: #189 Alan K. Henderson

It's one thing to comment about Ehrenstein's work and make a joke or two in discussion. That song is the closest Limbaugh can get to saying the N-word, and he is still playing (yesterday I think)/

re: #13 bofhell

I'm a Niven fan but I don't get the reference. Interesting article however.

re: #195 RealismRox

Not mean to be a snark tag, missed period.

re: #175 Charles

I'll never understand the uncritical, abject worship of squawking heads. They care about their worshipers only to the extent that they can make money from them.

re: #187 HoosierHoops

BTW how is IU Basketball looking this year? Not so much news down here in SEC/ACC land

Evidently we have a lot of racists that have been lurking here and now they come out of the woodwork.

I remember when Rush actually used to be entertaining back in the day. He had the "duddle-up duddle-up duddle-up" update theme songs, the parody songs, and other enjoyable routines.

He got whiny and boring during his oxycontin addiction. He hasn't been funny for a long time.

re: #194 The Sanity Inspector

Money can't buy love.

But it can get you the next best thing.
/

re: #189 Alan K. Henderson

I do know that one item popularly mis-cited as race-baiting is the "Barack the Magic Negro." That was a piece of double satire, directed at David Ehrenstein's column that cast white support for the Obama candidacy as something influenced by white guilt, and at the murmurs from certain corners that questioned Obama's racial authenticity.

Rush has carefully-crafted deniability on that, but it is still the kind of thing that keeps me from having him on the radio when customers are in my store. It is offensive to those who aren't aware of the "humorous" background.

The two quotes that he's crying about and says he's gonna sue somebody over are A) The James Earl Ray quote and B) A quote where he was reported to have said something to the effect that, "Slaves had it better back then."

There's no verifiable link to either of the quotes. I'm not saying he didn't say them; I'd be surprised if he didn't. It's just that they are un-verifiable, so he's jumping all over those as evidence that he's being unfairly targeted.

re: #165 Meatsss

I own a business. I sell to whomever has the cash. I'm color blind and politically neutral when it comes to my business and treat each customer the same. Your statement fails to respond to my question. An employee of a corporation fails in his fiduciary duty by denying investment by another individual due to his or her political beliefs. As a shareholder, I would be very upset if that occurred.

What color is the sky on your planet?

Shareholders are extremely concerned about partnering with racists, and want no part of companies which do so. A few moments out in the real world will turn up hundreds of examples. Perhaps you could begin with Krugerrand divestitures, just to give you something easy.

re: #13 bofhell

OT, but I suspect I'm not the only one that reads Larry Niven herein. From NewScientist:

Magnetricity - magnetic monopoles that can move independently - observed for first time. [Link: bit.ly...]

Interesting. Scientists have been on the trail of monopoles for a long time.

I don't think Rush really minds any of this. He probably expected it, maybe even wanted it, and now will use it to paint those who loudly protested his part in the acquisition as intolerant partisans.

I just don't see this bothering him...

(first post in a while)

Used to dig Rush for a while, mostly in the mid to late 90's. At one point, though, I remember thinking to myself:

"Dammit! ANOTHER freakin' cheerleader. We don't need cheerleaders, we need a f*ckin' quarterback."

Never could listen to him again without thinking of him as just another "Rah! Rah!" guy.

re: #204 Splatt

The two quotes that he's crying about and says he's gonna sue somebody over are A) The James Earl Ray quote and B) A quote where he was reported to have said something to the effect that, "Slaves had it better back then."

There's no verifiable link to either of the quotes. I'm not saying he didn't say them; I'd be surprised if he didn't. It's just that they are un-verifiable, so he's jumping all over those as evidence that he's being unfairly targeted.

Those are the only two statements he's complaining about?

re: #178 jaunte

This is a too-narrow reading of fiduciary duty. Risk must also be considered.

As well as ethics.

re: #207 DeathtotheSwiss

I don't think Rush really minds any of this. He probably expected it, maybe even wanted it, and now will use it to paint those who loudly protested his part in the acquisition as intolerant partisans.

I just don't see this bothering him...

(first post in a while)

He'll claim the coveted 'Whiny Victim' status.

I believe the quotes were too quickly believed and spread. IIRC, one of them was quoted from a book in which the quote was not cited. However, making up one, two, or three of the quotes in that top ten list was unnecessary since the remaining true quotes would have done enough damage. When Limbaugh makes these kinds of remarks he says that he is parodying the left. And he may well be, but perhaps the ease with which these parodies come speaks to his true feelings and not necessarily to his "intelligence and political insight".

re: #142 Steve White

Bullshit. When you see a mob of kids beating on one kid it gets people upset. Only people preoccupied with race and skin color as destiny automatically assume race is the reason. Only vile people use these incidents to further their own agendas and products.

re: #165 Meatsss

"An employee of a corporation fails in his fiduciary duty by denying investment by another individual due to his or her political beliefs. As a shareholder, I would be very upset if that occurred."

Even if said investors political beliefs would in turn tarnish the companies reputation and perhaps turn future investors away?

re: #190 Charles

He's never had the chance for the NFL to accept or reject him, has he? You and your followers here have judged him unworthy due to his poltical speech. You want to weigh in on his fitness to be an investor, that's fine. But you've had other owners sneak their teams out of one town for another in the middle of the night. Nobody said they should have been thrown out of their ownership. They teed off a lot of people by their actions and statements.
When the NFL owners reject him, and that's no certainty, then you can say the system worked. But you're denying him the opportunity of even applying.

re: #199 Buster

BTW how is IU Basketball looking this year? Not so much news down here in SEC/ACC land

Hey bro...IU has a couple years to go in the rebuilding process...
We transfered here a couple of years ago from California..They are just nuts about ball here so It's great to live among hard core Basketball fans..
But my heart lives in Cali...I played point in College...
But dang they just love ball here.
Regards

re: #192 Meatsss

One degree short of six, a customer isn't an investor.

Hey troll... have you burnt any crosses lately?

Now would you see that as vile and racist? Or is that satire?

He said that white children aren't safe from black kids anymore. He said all manner of sick racist stuff that given his national stature is worse than burning a cross.

I am tired of you.

When you go back to whatever sick little cave you are from, tell the other vermin that live there that LVQ called you an asshole.

re: #208 Guanxi88

Your first mistake was looking at a radio show host to be a quarterback.

re: #189 Alan K. Henderson

I do know that one item popularly mis-cited as race-baiting is the "Barack the Magic Negro." That was a piece of double satire, directed at David Ehrenstein's column that cast white support for the Obama candidacy as something influenced by white guilt, and at the murmurs from certain corners that questioned Obama's racial authenticity.

The under-tone is understood though, right? Basically, Rush's apologists say "since a black man said it, Rush should be able to say it".

Do you think that really works?

Rush's comments are racially toned for a reason. I say "for a reason" because Rush seems like a person that is smart enough not to plan his life and his radio persona. These comments, generally, insults people of color while at the same time perpetuates racial stereo types. It seems these comments help bolsters the racist thoughts by a small, but ugly, group of followers that hide behind "it's just a joke, I'm not racist".

Rush and you must understand how this appears and at some point you've got to admit "what a man says, is his measure".

Rush doesn't measure up in any decent meter.

re: #192 Meatsss

One degree short of six, a customer isn't an investor.

Nice attempt at changing the topic.

But investors, since you think they're somehow special, have already been addressed, above.

re: #189 Alan K. Henderson

I do know that one item popularly mis-cited as race-baiting is the "Barack the Magic Negro." That was a piece of double satire, directed at David Ehrenstein's column that cast white support for the Obama candidacy as something influenced by white guilt, and at the murmurs from certain corners that questioned Obama's racial authenticity.

Then there's the Donovan McNabb comment. I heard those comments. Limbaugh said that the media rooted for McNabb because they want to see him succeed in a position (quarterback) where, historically, blacks have been scarce. (Not anything really wrong with that, unless it cuts into objectivity about the bucking-history guy or gal in question.) His characterization of the media was vindicated when two black coaches faced each other in a Super Bowl.

The piece by Ehrenstein was hidden away in an LA Times column and it was suspect itself. The parody song was created by Paul Shanklin "an American conservative political satirist, impressionist, comedian, and conservative speaker."

Hate to break the news for you and any other clueless GOP member out there and I'm not speaking about the remaining clued in GOP members. It's 2009 and that song has no place in American society not only for that word but the context and that it's in reference to a sitting President of the United States. Get a fucking clue.

re: #215 Meatsss

Look dumbass, RACISM is not political speech!

re: #185 Meatsss

The NFL didn't exclude him, did they?

I think Roger Goodell summed it pretty well.

Limbaugh is an asshole, and the NFL has every right to not want to associate with assholes.

Sorry Rush, you can't buy your way to respectability, just like having dinner with William F. Buckley didn't make you an accomplished scholar.

Business isn't fair. Wah.

re: #208 Guanxi88

[snip]
"Dammit! ANOTHER freakin' cheerleader. We don't need cheerleaders, we need a f*ckin' quarterback."
[snip]

And the first time I saw him in a skirt with a pom-pom...

re: #215 Meatsss

GAZE.

re: #215 Meatsss

When the NFL owners reject him, and that's no certainty, then you can say the system worked. But you're denying him the opportunity of even applying.

No one denied him his opportunity to apply. His application was rejected by his fellow investment group members.

re: #215 Meatsss

He's never had the chance for the NFL to accept or reject him, has he? You and your followers here have judged him unworthy due to his poltical speech. You want to weigh in on his fitness to be an investor, that's fine. But you've had other owners sneak their teams out of one town for another in the middle of the night. Nobody said they should have been thrown out of their ownership. They teed off a lot of people by their actions and statements.
When the NFL owners reject him, and that's no certainty, then you can say the system worked. But you're denying him the opportunity of even applying.

His own partners have rejected him. In the business world, that's known as the ultimate bitchslap.

re: #208 Guanxi88

Pundits are by nature not quarterbacks. They comment on events. They do not organize campaigns (Pat Buchanan being a rare unexceptional exception).

re: #153 Grogtank

AH, I get to see a flounce before the banhammer! Yeah!

Bye bye!

William

re: #202 Slumbering Behemoth

But it can get you the next best thing.
/

Chocolate!

re: #155 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Cthulhu or the Kwistaz Haderach?

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl flounces.

re: #230 Alan K. Henderson

I'm still fairly confused by Pat Buchanan's apparent ability to move seamlessly back and forth between the world of racist antisemitism and that of mainstream media commentating. How does he do it?
He must know where some bodies are buried. Can't think of another explanation.

re: #221 Gus 802

Hate to break the news for you and any other clueless GOP member out there and I'm not speaking about the remaining clued in GOP members. It's 2009 and that song has no place in American society not only for that word but the context and that it's in reference to a sitting President of the United States. Get a fucking clue.

I haven't heard the song since 2008. I have heard leftist whining about the song since then, however.

re: #235 Alan K. Henderson

I haven't heard the song since 2008. I have heard leftist whining about the song since then, however.

As if one would have to be a "leftist" to find that offensive.

re: #32 Walter L. Newton

Which single quote was wrongly attributed to him?

Our old pal Snopes is on the case.

re: #235 Alan K. Henderson

I haven't heard the song since 2008. I have heard leftist whining about the song since then, however.

Because assholes like you see nothing wrong with it. Fuck you!

I heard on the opening monologue of the Mark Levin Show that George Soros is also a part of this group. Can anybody verify?

re: #235 Alan K. Henderson

I haven't heard the song since 2008. I have heard leftist whining about the song since then, however.

It figures you would assume that only "leftists" would find that song offensive.

re: #222 LudwigVanQuixote

Look dumbass, RACISM is not political speech!

Racism is "free speech", though.

So is fans and players pressuring NFL officials and business owners to prevent Rush from becoming a partial owner.

You reap what you sow -- and there is a lot of discontent about Rush.

Update on this story...
Citing Work Of Right-Wing Intern Spy, GOP Accuses Muslim Group Of Infiltrating Hill With Intern 'Spies'

Hooper and the WND crowd agree on one thing: that "Intern Dave Marshall" took a lot of documents while he was at CAIR -- basically everything he could. WND argues that the documents prove that CAIR is "part of an organized crime network" with other Muslim groups that "collectively comprise the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood."

Hooper is not impressed. "This guy spied on us for months, and the most they can come up with is that we're doing ordinary lobbying work on Capitol Hill?"

Politico reports that the four Republicans revealed an internal CAIR "strategy" document today, that, in the words of the Politico reporters, "basically lays out a fairly straight forward public relations and lobbying strategy."

Hooper says CAIR has filed a complaint with Washington police for theft of property.

re: #240 Gus 802

It figures you would assume that only "leftists" would find that song offensive.

Good point.

re: #216 HoosierHoops

I am an IU grad and love Hoosier B-ball. There is nothing like being on campus for a NCAA championship. The only thing I have seen anywhere near Hoosier Hysteria, are the football fans here in Georgia.

Enjoy that Indiana weather!

re: #217 LudwigVanQuixote

He didn't say that, did he. You're good at doing the same thing you accuse him of. Making bigoted statements. Obama's election was supposed to be the end of racism and deviciveness. Has it? You can call me any name in the book. Makes no difference to me. Just proves how ineffectual your argument is. Got anymore windmills to tilt at?

re: #232 The Sanity Inspector

I was thinking of something more... substantial. But go with chocolate, if that's what you like. :)

re: #235 Alan K. Henderson

You might not have heard it, but Limbaugh played the song this week.

re: #240 Gus 802

It figures you would assume that only "leftists" would find that song offensive.

Of course not. For Rushbots, leftist was a new form of N word a long time ago.

re: #235 Alan K. Henderson

GAZE #2. Go back under your bridge.

What happened to this place? Aside from the creationists blaming everything on evolution (which apparently doesn't exist) it used to be a pretty peaceful place. Maybe I'm just remembering that wrong?

re: #234 tradewind

And on top of that, Politically Androgynous Pat is pretty much persona non grata in both major political parties. (And most of the minor ones, I'd say.)

re: #242 Killgore Trout

I wouldn't believe that lying sack of shiite Hooper if he said the sun rose in the east.
Talk about a detestable human being...

re: #211 Varek Raith

He'll claim the coveted 'Whiny Victim' status.

We'll see tomorrow I guess.

re: #250 DeathtotheSwiss

There has always been 'spirited discusssion' in the comments here.

re: #247 RealismRox

On what occasion? What news story was it associated with?

re: #250 DeathtotheSwiss

What happened to this place? Aside from the creationists blaming everything on evolution (which apparently doesn't exist) it used to be a pretty peaceful place. Maybe I'm just remembering that wrong?

Maybe you are being dishonest in your comment.

re: #248 LudwigVanQuixote

For Rushbots, leftist was a new form of N word

What.
the.
Eff...

re: #252 tradewind

I wouldn't believe that lying sack of shiite Hooper if he said the sun rose in the east.
Talk about a detestable human being...

Agreed. However it appears that the only thing the investigation uncovered is that CAIR is lobbying. No surprise there.

re: #250 DeathtotheSwiss

Are you kidding? I thought it was fairly well known that LGF has had it's fair share of vigorous debate.

re: #220 SixDegrees

And I don't see a large part of the population accusing him of being racist. I see a lot of companies trying to get spots on his show to advertise their products. More companies than spots. Seems to me if their shareholders were afraid of being connected to him, they would have made that known.

Heard of any service or product corp. refusing to try and advertise on his show based on his speech?

That's a first, a minus from Sharmuta.

re: #255 Alan K. Henderson

It was either yesterday or Monday. He played the song again in an attempt to defend himself from accusations of being racist. It's true, believe me.